Do Go On - 328 - The Super Bowl

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

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Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Do Go One. My name is Ev Wonki and, as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hey, Dave, hey, Jess, so good to be here. Hey, isn't it great to be alive?

Stop trying to make that your catchphrase. No, hey, it's better than almost anything else he says. So let's let him have this as a catchphrase. Totally. It's all I'll say from now. You're welcome to it. Anyway, great to be alive. great to be here.

Just very quickly, before we get into the episode, I should let everyone know that we're doing a new concept, a new live show at this year's Melbourne International Comedy Festival. It's called Do Go On The Quiz. We're back in quiz form. We are back in quiz form. We're doing three shows on Monday nights at the Melbourne Town Hall. We've made it, baby.

The Melbourne Town Hall. And thank you so much to everyone who's already bought tickets. But if you would like to join those beautiful people, you can go to ComedyFestival.com.com. The times are April 4, 11 and 18. at 9 o'clock at the Melbourne Town Hall and we're doing a quiz show where I'm the host,

Jess and Matt of the team captains, they're bringing in special guests from the Melbourne Comedy Festival and beyond and I quiz them about a topic from history. So at the end of the episode, or the end of the show, basically, just like DoGo on, you'll have learned about something. We've also had some fun with it.

Yeah, it's basically a report, but with questions throughout, which is fun. I love it. I'm looking forward to, I think it's really good. I'm really excited. It's going to be fun. And people can also come to my show

if they want to with Alcette. Trumbly Virtual called... Got away from there. Oh, what is it called? Hong Kong. Honk, hubber, ring a ding ding ding. And I can't wait to get back on the stage at the Melbourne Comedy Festival. It's going to be so much fun.

More details for both of those shows in the show notes. The Dooguon quizzes on Monday nights at the town hall. Big time. Big time. Anyway, Dave, can you just quickly explain how this show works for new listeners? Well, it's like Doogle on the quiz show without questions. That's how I describe it. But in case you haven't seen Doog on the quiz show, because no one has yet, it hasn't premiered.

What we do is we take it in terms of report on a topic, often suggested by a listener. That person goes away, does a bit of research, brings it back to the other two. And we usually start with a question because it's Matt's turned a report, and he's picked a topic that Jess and I have no idea what it's going to be. Dave, you just said without the questions, and then by the end of that... There's one question. The questions at the quiz show will be much more excited. Oh, yeah, probably.

No offense. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. And I'll have, you know, I ask very exciting questions throughout all reports. Like, what's that, I've got a gun over there? What's that I've got a gun over there? That is a good question. I'll write that down.

I'll write that down for my quiz. That's a good one. My question today, though, is, to get us on a topic. My gun, what is that over there? Doesn't that sound like a TV show that Betty White briefly hosted in the 1950s? It was good. My question is,

what great sporting event had its origin in the year 1966? Oh my God. Oh, my God. Are we finally doing the AFL St. Kilda Grand Final? No, it's not that.

Even bigger. The Time England won their one and only World Cup. No, even bigger. It is a football, though. Not an English football and not an Australian football. Gaelic football Not Gaelic football

Handball but with feet No it's not hand football Can't think of another football Oh is it a big event It is a big event Held once a year It is held once a year With a couple of quarterbacks

Yes A couple of wide receivers Uh huh And then the coach gets dunked at the end Is it the Super Bowl It is the Super Bowl It is the Super Bowl That's exciting

Which is coming up If you're listening to this show The Week it comes out It's coming up real soon. So I thought, what better time than here, no, than now. What better place than now? What better time than here? Strong start.

What better time than how? Two great questions so far. One, what's that? What's that? I've got a gun over there and what better time than how? Anyway, I can't even repeat these questions. They're that good. So the Super Bowl, this topic was suggested by Harry Worrell from Telford in the UK and Jonas from Denmark.

Interestingly, no American suggested it. Really? I'm guessing they're like, we know about it. We don't want you to butcher the tale of the Super Bowl. But, yeah, our European friends, at least a couple of them, are interested. So I'm going to go back and I do this mistake sometimes. I went maybe too far back. I've gone, you know, decades prior to the Super Bowl.

The Big Bang. Well, look, honestly, without a primordial soup, there was no Super Bowl, so let's start there. We always start with a fucking soup. No, so the NFL's origin is pretty complex. Maybe worth worthy of its own episode down the track sometime if people are interested. But I'll go through it briefly. So the NFL, the National Football League,

is the USA's major professional gridiron football organization, which was founded in 1920 in Canton, Ohio, God's Country, as the American Professional Football Association. So this is quite a few years after, you know, college football was already big and established, which we discussed a little bit in the kangaroo kicker episode last year. According to Britannica.com, and, you know, when you're thinking American football,

what resource are you going to go to? Oh, yeah, I'm not going to. Straight to. Straight to the Britannica. According to Britannica, the league began play in 1920 and comprised five teams from Ohio, Akron, pros,

Canton Bulldogs, Cleveland Tigers, Columbus Panhandlers, and my favourite, I think, of all sporting team names ever, the Dayton Triangles. The 5 teams! Everything is available.

You can be anything. They're just the five teams from Ohio. There's also four teams from Illinois, the Chicago Tigers. the Decatur Staley's, the Racine Cardinals, they're actually based in Chicago, but they took their name from a local street for some reason, the Rock Island Independence,

and then there were two from Indiana, the Hammond Pros, the Muncie Flyers, two from New York, including the Buffalo All-Americans, and the Rochester Jeffersons. Then there was also the Detroit Heralds from Michigan. Very few of those are cities I've even heard of. And they're all based around this little clump in the sort of northeast of...

This little triangle, maybe. Yeah, a little triangle, triangle. It's just funny. You're like, no, no, there's lots of other teams. I'm like, oh, okay. No, a lot of names were still available. Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, there's a couple.

There's like tigers in there. Twice, I think, even. But, yeah, there's two Tigers team. Two Tigers, a panhandler and triangle. So they exist in some form or another, because if they do, they are going to be my team. Who's at there? The triangle.

I don't think they do anymore. But I should look into that. but certainly not in the highest level anymore. Of these original franchises, only two remain in the NFL today. The Cardinals who left Chicago for St. Louis after the 1959 season and are now in Arizona,

something about American sport where teams will just up and relocate a bit. And also the ones that I would never have guessed, but the decaturstallies are still in the NFL but are now known as the Chicago Bears. That's a good rebrand. Yeah. Strong on both points, I think.

A few of the terms would give you a quick origin of their name. The Cardinals got their name apparently because they used secondhand uniforms that had faded from maroon, maroon or maroon, depending on... Someone picked me up on saying, apparently we say Marone funny. A maroon funny. We say maroon, right? It doesn't matter. So they got in my head, obviously, but...

So they got these secondhand uniforms that were maroon. and they'd sort of faded to be what their onus called a cardinal red, and that's where they got their name from. This was a faded maroon color. Oh, I thought it would have been a bird. The bird. The bird is their logo now, but it sort of came about in a weird way. That's cool.

I was thinking like the dude in the church. Is there a cardinal in there? Yeah, I think he's the boss of some church. Yeah, maybe Catholic church. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It's funny that you went to bird. And I went to church man. You always got to church man there.

I love church man. Churchman. I love churchmen. I've done a lot of good. Love them. And then I believe the bears, they took their name based on Chicago's baseball team

being called the Cubs. You know, famous team. They were already around the Chicago Cubs. So they're like, with the mature version. Well, that's exactly, apparently the owner said, I think this is a quote from him. He's like, he says, if baseball players are cubs,

then football players are bigger, they must be bears. Okay. Cop that, Cubs. In 1922, the American Professional Football Association changed its name to the National Football League. So it's had the NFL name pretty much since the beginning and it has it to this day. In the first decade of the competition, the champion was decided by a win-loss record. So there were no playoffs initially.

And for a long time, the NFL's own record books stated that the 1920 championship was undecided. The first one they played, they said it was undecided. That was until 1970 when it was discovered that the Akron pros were named the champions. How was that discovered? Isn't that funny? 50 years later, they're like, oh, no, I found a note here saying, and it came about in a really weird way as well. So to decide the champion that year,

there was a meeting held by, with all the team owners or whoever could show up, and they voted on who they thought should win. They wrestled. Yeah. According to this great website I found called I think it's Wikipedia.org which is sort of like a football knowledge emporium.

That's awesome cool. Specifically American football. It says each team that showed up had a vote to determine the champions. Since the Akron pros never lost the game, the pros were awarded the Brunswick bulky Colander Cup on April 30, 1921. The decision proved controversial, though,

as two other teams, the Decatur Staley's and the Buffalo All-Americans, had more wins than Akron. They're like, wait, we won more games than them. They didn't, and they all tied. So, like, why do they win? We won more game. And I'm like, that's strange, sure, if they're undefeated. But they didn't use to count ties as wins or losses.

They were just like basically they didn't happen. Yeah. So the Akron pros had eight wins and three ties, whereas the Decatur Staley's had 10 wins and one loss and two ties. So they actually played two more games as well. It's a real mess. Here's the table, Dave. You see the Muncie Flyers, their season was zero wins, one loss.

They played one game. Some teams played eight games. Some played seven. They just like, they just scheduled games when and where they could. Yeah, the winning team played eight and number two played ten. And then third was nine. and then everyone else had six or less games. So it's pretty difficult for them to catch up on the win.

Yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, you're a little off on the numbers because you haven't counted the ties there. Oh, sorry, I thought that was games played. No, it was games. But you are right. I mean, that is still the case that they are,

every team has played a different amount of games. Right, yes. The Monty flies, they played one, and then they were like, nah. We're not good at this. Yeah, this sucks. This isn't fun, because we suck so bad. That's right.

No one even had fun, so they just, the clubhouse down, went back to their jobs. The Muncie Flyers struck them from the record. It's a shame because that's a great name. The Muncie Flyers. I'm into that. Yeah, I like that. So Tide Games didn't count as scores at all until 1972

when they were sort of a half win, half loss. So you got... You get like half a point or something. Yeah, it's the same as in most football codes. You get half what you would get. Well, some actually in soccer you get one point and three points from wins. Anyway, whatever. We're not here to talk about that football.

No. The trophy itself was quite mysteriously, beautifully named Brunswick Bulkie Colander Cup. It was a silver loving cup, which is a type of cup apparently is. Oh God, what are they? Is it a subgenre of Cup, a loving cup, but drink out of it, apparently is all it is. Okay, thank God. Not what I was imagining, but anyway. You thought they were putting some sort of liquid into it.

Yeah, something going into the cup. Everyone has to do it. Everyone do the cup. It's only weird if not everyone does it. And it was donated to the AP. by the Brunswick Bulkie Collander Company Tire Division. Not the whole company, just the Tire Division dropped it off. It's handles were made out of antlers.

But strangely, no one knows what happened to it after it was awarded. The minutes of the APFA and NFL meetings never mention it again, and there was no known photo of it until a couple of years ago when the NFL finally tracked one down from a 1921 newspaper. So there's this one photo of it, real old black and white, photo and it's just sort of, it just disappeared. Ah. It was meant to be given, like the same trophy was meant to be given

to the winning team each year. You know, you get it for a year and then you pass it on to the next winner. The Chicago Staley's now the Bears won the second title. Again in controversial circumstances, the Buffalo All-Americans were undefeated on top of the ladder when they were invited to play a rematch against the

Staley who they had already defeated. The All-American's owner agreed to the rematch on the condition that the game wouldn't be counted in the standing and only played as an exhibition game. He's like, play it, but it's not a real game. We've already won. We all agree on that. Yep, okay, great.

We'll play for a bit of fun. The Staley's won the match, and according to Wikipedia.org, the league countered the All-American's game in the standings against Buffalo's wishes, resulting in Buffalo and Chicago being tied atop the standings. The league then implemented the first-ever tiebreaker, a rule now considered archaic and removed from league rule books, that states that if two teams play multiple times in a season, the last game between the two teams carries more weight.

What? So the game they didn't think meant anything now means more than the game that they won that they thought actually did mean something. They're probably trying a lot less hard then, aren't they? Yeah, exactly. So because of that, the Chicago victory actually counted more in the standings and gave Chicago the championship.

Buffalo sports fans have been known to refer to this justly or unjustly as the staley swindle. I love it if they're still talking about it. Buffalo sports fans, never let it go. Either way, the result means that of these still existing teams, the Chicago Bears won the earliest championship. The early years of the competition were riddled with controversial results like this. Another example is in 1925 when the Cardinals ended up winning the championship by one win,

this result is disputed as they basically fixed the game by getting their opposition, the Milwaukee Badgers, to field a team of high school kids, which resulted in the Cardinals flogging the badges 58 to nil. And also putting seven people in hospital. Yeah, that's right. They put toddlers out there. That's so dodgy. Apparently, NFL President Joseph Carr learnt about the high school players

and told reporters the Cardinals win would be stricken from the record. Somehow, though, the league never got around to removing it, and it's still part of the official NFL records. Yeah, they're in big trouble for this, assuming we remember. Yeah. I'll write it down. Yeah, I'll remember. I'm good.

I'll remember. Cars like tapping his shoulder in his pockets. Ooh, don't have a... No, no, it's okay. It's up here. Locked in. They call my mind the vault. Is that what they call it?

I forget. Anyway. The Green Bay Packers joined the league in 1921 and won three titles in a row from 1929 to 1931. Go cheeseheads. In the early days, There were lots of smaller towns and cities represented in the league. But Green Bay, like, I mean, as we mentioned, all those towns I've never heard of,

and Green Bay was sort of one of them. But they're the only one who's still around in the NFL. All the other teams are now based in pretty big cities. Green Bay, Wisconsin had a population of around 30,000 when it joined the league, and today have a population of around 110,000. Amazingly, Green Bay's home stadium, Lambour Field, regularly fills its capacity of over 80,000. Do they all turn up, the whole town? It must be this the whole town turns out.

In 1932, the season ended in a tie for top spot between the Chicago Bears and the Portsmouth Spartans to decide the winner. The playoff game was held with Chicago winning the game and the championship. This started the tradition of end-of-season playoffs. And in 1933, Eastern and Western divisions, each of their winners would play off in the NFL championship game. That's sort of the precursor of the supercursive of the Super Bowl. Super Bowl.

Right, okay. But before that, it was just the win-loss record. That's, yeah, or a vote. Or a vote. Or whoever beat the kids better. Or the swimsuit competition. Yeah, that's right. What took until, so they didn't seem to have had a trophy replaced that one that went

missing. Although maybe they did, they just haven't found it in their record books, you know. Until 1934, 13 years after the original trophy was awarded and lost, a replacement trophy was created called the Eighty-Earthed. Ed Thorpe Memorial Trophy, which was named in honor of ex-player referee and friend of many of the higher-ups there, Ed Thorpe. Was he still alive? The memorial.

I'm right here. No, he passed away and they did it pretty quickly after he died. So during these early decades of the NFL, many other leagues popped up with the aim of becoming America's dominant football league trying to challenge the NFL. But the NFL seemed to be able to fight them all off. Some of these leagues... Again, in a fight to the death. Yeah, yeah.

Some of these leagues included the American Football League, which competed in 1926. That didn't last long. Then another one came up in 1936 called the American Football League. But that also didn't last too. So is that the same exact time? Then there was a competition

started up in 1940 called the American Football League. But all of these failed to take the NFL's crowd. Another rival league started when businessmen and heir to his father's oil fortune, Lamar Hunt, contacted the NFL wanting to enter a Dallas-based team into the competition. In the 1950s, the NFL was continuing to grow in popularity and was becoming more competitive with baseball as a spectator sport. Due to this, the NFL was wary of expanding too quickly

from its 12-team competition. they wanted to take a sore approach and they rejected Hunt's offer. Undeterred, Hunt started working on the idea of a rival league instead, contacting other rich people to suss out their interests. By the end of the decade, they were ready to announce a new competition, which they called the American Football League.

With the announcement of this new league, NFL team owners tried to undermine the fledgling league by offering AFL team owners stakes in their teams or otherwise promising them new NFL franchises. So all of a sudden they're going, well, you don't start that. We'll come join us, which is what they were trying to do in the first place.

Now, only the Minnesota owners were tempted, defecting to the NFL with a new team known as the Minnesota Vikings, which still compete in the NFL today. The NFL was broadcast on CBS TV at the time. And that was one of the big things that helped really grow the NFL as a competition was they got involved with TV pretty early and sort of started to spread, even though they were only playing games

in these smaller markets, they were able to sort of spread the popularity of the sport via TV. But because they had this deal with CBS, the NFL, they made CBS, they told them that you can't, don't report on any AFL schools. So they were like undermining, the news wouldn't show AFL schools,

even though the AFL was becoming really popular, people would have wanted to know the scores they're like. So they get asked about it, they go, what's that? I've never heard of that. Is that one of the failed? Yeah. Oh, you're from me from 1929, yeah. Yeah.

Sounds terrible. Sounds really lame. I hate it. So I don't know why you'd want to know that. That seems stupid of you to want to know. I don't report that. I love it. I love how the NFL's really bitchy.

The AFL's original 1960 lineup consisted of eight teams, an Eastern Division, which included the New York Titans, the Boston Patriots, Buffalo Bills, the Houston Oilers, and a Western division with the Los Angeles Chargers, the Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, and Dallas Texans. Oh, I've heard of a lot of those teams. Yes, yeah, exactly. The AFL differentiated itself from the NFL in a bunch of different ways, using innovations

to make them a more exciting competition, including that are much more attacking sport. I think maybe, as I understand it, some of these teams are in sort of warmer climates. they're able to, you know, they're not bogged down by rain and snow, maybe. They can throw the ball further and that sort of stuff. So it became a competition. Right. I thought you're going to say they gave them like weapons or something. You made it more a gladiator style.

Yeah, the balls had spikes in them. That's why they say spikes the ball. Gordon of Wikipedia.org. The NFL adopted some of the innovations introduced by the AFL immediately and a few others in the years following. One was including the names on player jerseys at something. the NFL started. The older league also adopted the practice of using the stadium scoreboard clocks

to keep track of the official game time instead of what they were doing before that point, which was just a stop watch used by the referee. So it sounds like a bunch of everyone in on the, you know, what time the game is in. A lot harder to be dodgy when everyone can see the clock. Yeah, yeah, it's not just one guy going, nah, nah, nah, no, no, no. Now this quarter's gone for an hour, but that's fine. Sorry about it. Or it's just him going, shit, shit, my pocket just stopped it.

It could have been 15, 20 minutes ago. Ship, shit, chip, chip, chip. Oh, crap. The AFL played a 14 game schedule for its entire existence, starting in 1960. The NFL, which had played a 12 game schedule since 1947, changed for a 14 game schedule in 1961. They're like, more games, more TV. Right, because I guess, like, if you finish two weeks earlier, then, people can go watch the other way. Yeah, exactly.

You're giving them free, free air. The AFL also introduced the two. two-point conversion to professional football, 34 years before the NFL instituted it in 1994. So that's where you can kick a, like a goal. Football, love is going to hate it. So field goal is different. That's a three-pointer.

But the conversion kick is for one point. But you can also basically go for another touchdown. If you get that, you get two points. Oh, okay. So it's harder, but you get double the points for it if you want to. So they brought that in. That was already thinking college football, I think, because they brought it into professional football,

and now the NFL have it. But it took them until 9 and 94 to do that. All of these innovations pioneered by the AFL, including its more exciting style of play and colourful uniforms have essentially made today's professional football more like the AFL than it is like the old NFL. So it's very influential. NFL just outlasted it.

Well, not quite. Despite a slow start in terms of crowd attendances, The AFL's more exciting games helped them sign a multi-million dollar TV rights deal with ABC and then later NBC. Business wasn't good for all teams, though. The New York Titans, where I love that they named them the New York Titans because the NFL had the Giants and the owners like, Titans are even stronger than Giants. Oh, my God.

That was his logic. Oh, my God. Yeah, real good. Another team comes along and they're the big Titans. Yeah, yeah. The tough Titans. The extra large Titans. Yeah.

X-L-T's. I think the Giants got their name because of New York was building a lot of skyscrapers at the time. So they were named after the buildings, I think. Anyway. So anyway, the Titans, despite this guy having a great business brain and naming brain, they were heading towards bankruptcy and they were bailed out, bought by new owners for quite a reasonable price. and they changed their name to the New York Jets,

which I love because apparently some of the reasons for this name was because it rhymes with the New York Mets and they played at the same stadium. And also it was kind of near an airport. So New York Jets. Pretty cool. This proved a turning point for the franchise, as did recruiting Future Hall of Famer Joe Namath.

It's a name I know. I know Joe Namath. I'm sure the Simpsons of reference. Yeah, I know that Namath. Joe Namath, aka, Do you know his nickname? Broadway Joe. I think it's like a...

I think you'd call him Hollywood Joe now. Probably. Broadway Joe. Broadway. Apparently he helped extend the reach of the AFL as like a media darling and a bit of a sex symbol. Around the same time, the Dallas Texans relocated to Kansas City

and became the Kansas City Chiefs who was still a powerful team to this day. This is the team who was, was owned by Lamar Hunt, the guy who basically created the AFL so he could have this team in Dallas. Didn't take him long and he moved him to Kansas City, which is interesting. Caught it back to the Wikipedia.org article. The AFL started hitting the NFL where it hurts, signing 75% of the NFL's first round draft choices in 1960, apparently, including Houston's successful signing of a college star and Heisman trophy winner, Billy Cannon.

It's a great name. Is he got a canon of an arm? Assuming he was a quarterback. It's a real nominative determinism. That's great. It's either that or old school war. Yeah, yeah. Pirate war.

Have you heard of the Heisman trophy? I hope I'm saying that right. It's awarded to the most outstanding college footballer. Like the Norm Smith. Not quite. That's for the best player in the NFL grandfine. Hey, like the Daly and. I made a sports reference.

Okay. Yeah, that's pretty good. Not bad. I am like the MVP of rugby league. Like the Davis Cup. Okay, that's a country-based team tennis tournament. Like a black belt. Okay, that's a rank in things like karate and judo.

Like the Victoria Cross. Okay, that's a war on. Yeah, that one feels a bit poor taste. Like an Academy Award for Best Cinematography. Okay, now that one is a, It's a movie. I think he gets it and he's taking the piss at this point. I think he understands his wrong.

He's getting further away. I don't know. No, I think he's doing this on purpose. I'm getting close. Like an Antoinette Perry Award for Best Musical, also known as a Tony. That's a fun fact. That's a fun fact.

What are we talking about? The Heisman Trophy, yes. Sorry. I love this about how hectic it all was back then. Apparently the two leagues would have their draft day on the same day with the same pools of players.

So two separate drafts, but they're all picking the same players? Even back then, do they have the sound when the pick comes in? Do you ever watch the draft? It's got this music that goes, do-d-d-d-l-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d. Oh, I absolutely love it.

My favorite part about the NFL is that draft music when the pick comes in. So, Yeah, wild idea that this is all happening at the same time. This led to teams from both leagues picking the same players. Yeah. So two teams, you know, one team in the NFL will pick a player and at different ends of the draft or whatever.

And then the player would be like, I'll go with them, you know. How messy. This also meant that sometimes teams would pass on top players as to not risk them choosing to play for the rivalry. Like, we could waste our top pick on this player. but he's every chance to just go play in the other league. So what happens if you, is it void if you picks up at three and that they move? Well, I guess it keeps moving along so other players would go in the meantime.

So yeah, it's pretty risky. So it's an interesting, like would have been so strange. But very entertaining, I think. An example of this happening came when 1965 Heisman Trophy winner Mike Garrett running back from USC in Los Angeles was expected to sign with an NFL team. That's what the expectation was. So he was not taken in the AFL draft until the final round, the 20th round of picks. So every team has a pick each round. So that's a lot of picks deep into the draft. And that was the Kansas City Chiefs who picked him up. I guess by that said, you're like,

oh, well, Dyson's go. Maybe he'll pick us, who knows. Then the NFL draft on the same day, he was taken by the Los Angeles Rams as a top 20 pick. So they picked him pretty high. And that's where he was studying at college. So I think the expectation was he was, he was, going to play for the Rams. But Garrett surprisingly shunned the NFL and signed with Kansas City and he helped lead them to the AFL titles as a rookie.

So they picked him real late, just rolled the dice. He picked them for some reason and he took them all the way. Because I don't know if it was still the goes, but now the high you get picked, the more you can expect to get paid usually, right? I think, yeah, that does play into it as well. But this competition between the two leagues was also meaning, I guess in the negotiation,

which team you're going to pick, maybe the chief said we'll pay you more. That's possible. And they're like, we didn't think you'd even take our call. Yeah, that's right. We need to now make a few calls to see if we can find that money.

Holy crap. So they would do a bit of luck because the previous year, the chiefs were burnt when they used their first pick on Gail Sayers who chose to play with the NFL's Chicago Bears instead. So they lost their first pick. So it was kind of nice of the following you.

They had a reversal of luck. The fierce competition between the two leagues led to skyrocketing player payments, which led to owners from the NFL, contacting owners from the AFL to try and negotiate a merger in 1966. Oh. I'd to give a little context in Australia that you're the Saints

won their one and only VFL, AFL, Premiership. It's pretty fun to have this new 1966 sporting fact to throw out the February. It's the birth of the Super Bowl. The 1966 negotiations led to a merger between the two leagues. It was interesting as well. A couple of the NFL team owners went to some of the AFL team owners directly.

They collectively have the power in the leagues. They sort of went around the AFL's boss or the commissioner. So it did lead to this merger. And there was actually a precedent for this. One of the other rival leagues that came up, one of the few that wasn't called the AFL, was called the All-America Football Conference. and that merged with the NFL in 1949.

The San Francisco 49ers and the Cleveland Browns are the two AAFC teams that remain in the NFL today. Side note, the 49ers got their name from the gold prospectors who arrived in Northern California for the 1849 gold rush. Oh. I think I used to assume that that was just the year they were founded, but yeah, they're named after the... Right, and then, amazingly 100 years later,

they merged into the NFL? Yeah, it was just coincidentally, hmm, the Browns got their name. Dave. Oh, that was a, it's a horrible story, actually. And had a big night out. And obviously, had a bad burrito.

The uniforms. We did have white uniforms initially, but, but, uh, now they were named for their original coach and co-founder Paul Brown. How cool is that? That was just a guy and he's still got a team named after him. I called Brown. The Browns.

It's like all of Melbourne Twitter blew up the other week when Code Brown was called. And everyone was like, I know something else that sounds like. Like the Cleveland Browns. I love when Twitter all makes the same joke. That's good fun. I mean, I definitely thought the same joke. We all thought it.

We just did not hit send. Despite NFL fans believing their teams to be varsity, superior to the new teams. The Browns were champions in their first NFL season. Oh, matches. They're like, all right. All right, we'll let a couple of these paupers over. Exactly.

This junior league, these amateurs are all right. And then they're coming in a win. Whoa. They're very good. And were they still coached by Mr. Brown? I hope so. God, that's awesome. Mr. Brown.

It seems like the AAFC merger was less of a merger of equals and more the NFL absorbing the best AACFC teams. They took three teams and the third team didn't last very long. On the other hand, the NFL-A-Fel merger seems like it was a lot more equal. Basically, I think the NFL were why the AFL was legitimately overtaking them. It sounded like they were making all the new exciting moves. And they had a TV network legitimising them and all this sort of stuff. And apparently the owners in the AFL were richer than the NFL owners as well.

So some of the leagues that started up earlier, the owners were like, we need this to make money quickly, but this group that Lamar put together were all rich enough to be able to wait it out as it grew. Right, exactly. So the first few scenes, if they lose money, who cares? Yeah. But I did it so quick.

It was like 10 years after it started, or not even 10 years. They were, yeah, like six years, basically they were going, hey, can we join up? Wait, you're the old guys. You started this, but okay. Also, like, he'd be like, I just wanted to bring one team in.

Isn't that funny? You said no. And now I'm bringing lots of teams in. Huh. Funny or that way. So I really thought when you didn't let CBS say, name our league on their news program, that would have really heard us. Turns out it did.

While the NFL retained their name and logo in the merger, not much else stayed the same. On June 8, 1966, the merger agreement was announced in New York. Amongst other things, the agreement stipulated. the two leagues would combine to form an expanded league with 24 teams to be increased to 26 by 1969 and to 28 by 1970 or soon thereafter. The teams added with the New Orleans Saints in 1967,

the Cincinnati Bengals in 1968, and the Seattle Seahawks and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1976. So these are all still teams going about it today. The Atlanta Falcons and Miami Dolphins were already established. ready for the 1966 season. So they're all the new teams that came in in the following years from the agreement.

This is also part of the agreement. All existing franchises would be retained and none of them would be moved outside of their metropolitan areas. So they're sort of had a guarantee. If we join up, you can't just all of a sudden go, oh, we're going to kick you out because we've already got a New York Giants. We don't want a New York Jets.

So I guess that would be the worry from the AFL, but they had that in writing that they wouldn't be able to shunt teams around. To be fair, though, the NFL has agreed to. a lot of stuff early on, like, oh, this doesn't count, and then it does count. Yeah, that's true. I don't know if you can trust them. That's true, yeah. And the one thing that they had to do, the teams that were coming, like the Jets, I think, had to pay the Giants a certain amount of money to join their city, basically in the same league.

Oh, like in, like, a mafia-style protection tax. It does feel a bit more of your taxes. They also agreed that both leagues would hold a common draft of college players, ending the bidding war between the two leagues. So they just have one drive from now on, which made some sense. The two leagues would officially merge in 1970 to form one league with two conferences, the NFC and the AFC, which still is. So basically the AFC was nearly made up of all AFL teams, the NFC or NFL teams.

And so that's not split geographically like in the NBA where it's sort of an East versus West-ish. Inside each of those, there's NFC, West, NFC, East and all that sort of stuff as well. they're split slightly as well in their little groups. The history and records of the AFL would be incorporated in the older league so that they wouldn't lose their short history. But the AFL name and logo would be officially retired. Finally, the leagues would maintain separate regular season schedules for the following couple of years until 1969

before they officially merged. And the leagues also agreed to play an annual AFL-NFL champion game. Oh. Matching the championship teams of each league, which would begin at the end of the 1966 season, which was in January, 1967.

So now, that last point, obviously, is the reason we're all here. As I was writing, I'm like, I've talked too much before I actually get to the fucking Super Bowl. I've done it again. I mean, the whole year builds up to the Super Bowl, so it's quite apt. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, so

this was the birth of it. The big playoff game between the AFL and NFL champions, which of course was called the AFL-N-FL-N-FEL World Championship game. So how do we not guess that? Why do they always make it a world championship? Yeah, it's great, isn't it? We're champions of the world.

They were doing that. I think in those early NFL games where it was like tiny little towns you've never heard of playing against each other. I think they were seeing themselves as world champions as well. So how did they get to the super? Super Bowl name. It took him a few. It wasn't until the third one that the Super Bowl name was used.

Lamar Hunt, the man who got the ball rolling for the AFL competition, also is said to be the man who coined the name Super Bowl. He has said that the name may have come to him as his kids were playing with a Super Bowl toy. He used this term when talking about a possible NFL NFL-N-FL championship game as early as the mid-60s. in a July 25, 1966 letter to NFL commissioner Pete Roselle, Hunt wrote about this championship game idea saying,

I've kiddingly called it the Super Bowl, which obviously can be improved upon. I mean, it's a placeholder. I'm imagining like a who's on first type conversation around. And it's just people, somebody's in another room, somebody's in the kitchen, and they're asking what kind of bowl they want their meal in. And it's, you know, like I'm a,

of anything. It's like, do you want to the small ball? Do you want to Super Bowl? You know, that's what I'm hearing. I've got an idea. That's where my brain went this whole time. It's really not that far off that Bob, right? But the thing is that why did he go to bowl? Because they play with a ball. Why do they just call it the Super Bowl? Well, I'll get to that now. The tradition of calling big football matches bowls

goes way back. So that was already a sort of a naming convention, especially in college football games. And that goes back to the Rose Bowl, which is still an annual American college football game. It was first played in 9-0-2, and it wasn't known as the Rose Bowl until 1923 when the game was played in the new Rose Bowl Stadium.

The Rose Bowl Stadium was named the Rose Bowl as the stadium looks like a bowl. Great. It don't make sense now. And that was, there was already another stadium called the Yale Bowl, which it was sort of influenced by. But that's the idea. So basically, the Rose Bowl became a super popular game, annual event. And other cities and universities started having bowl games as well, even though they're often not played in bowl-shaped stadiums. They're like just trying to emulate the success of the Rose Bowl. Oh my God. They'd have games like in Florida.

orange bowl and in New Orleans the sugar bowl. There's a bunch of different ones. There's a bunch of different ones. There's a bunch of bowl games that have sold their naming rights. Like the famous Idaho potato bowl, which is played in Boise, you know, Idaho, big famous potato country. The potato board has paid for those naming rights. Potato bowl.

That sounds like that. No, the full name is famous Idaho. potato bowl. Famous Idaho is in the name. And maybe my favorite, played in Orlando, the Cheez-It Bowl. What's a Cheez-It? I think they're like snacks. And I never got this until now because Bender on Futurama says cheese-it to mean get away. Let's run. Chee-it. Let's cheese it. I think it's a snack name. Hey, fun. Isn't culture fun?

I think they're a bit like Twisties. Oh, love a Twistie. So good, yeah. I'm hungry for a twistie all of a sudden. We'll cheese it. The NFL's Green Bay Packers won the first two championship games easily. They're nothing like twisties. Sorry to do a mat there. Are they more like cheesels?

They're more like little crackers. You can see that. Oh, they still look alright. Like little cheddar biscuits. Yeah, they almost look like, yeah, little cheds. Like, yeah, cheds are like shapes. Yeah, like the savory shapes. Yeah.

Or cheese shapes, yeah, which are delicious. Chesh it. Look, I've just looked up. cheese it just so I can have a look. And one of the dictionary definitions is, it's an archaic word, used to urge someone to stop doing something. But number two, it says,

used to urge someone to run away. Chease it, here comes Mr. Madigan, is the example. Okay, well, there you go. Cheez it. The snack was named after the phrase then. Maybe, yeah. I was thinking maybe there was an ad that had, that used that.

Yeah. Oh, like, you got to cheese it. Yeah, and that's where Bender got it from. But now I've got more. questions and answers, to be honest. And Ben is still somehow using it a thousand years later, which is fun.

There's a few plot holes in that show. I don't know about that show. I don't know. What is the likelihood of a robot in a thousand years' time still saying chees-it? Things are far-fetched. And out of all the celebrities that are

floating heads, they're all people that lived in our time. What's with that? People that we recognise. Why would we recognise them? Yeah, surely there's been other celebrities with heads in jars over the next thousand years? Surely? Very strange.

Wow. But I guess it was good for us because, I mean, otherwise, we'd be like, who's that? Oh, it's the Beastie Boys. No worries. So, yes, the Green Bay Pack has won the first two championship games easily, and that led to fears that the AFL's teams weren't up to the competition. The AFL's champions got flogged by the NFL's champions. Ah.

And that possibly also led to relatively low interest in those early matches, from the first to the second one, the TV audience dropped. The first match didn't even sell out, which is unheard of now. But those fears were proven unfounded. Before Super Bowl 3, Joan Namath, aka Broadway Joe. And Super Bowl 3, they sort of, they went back and named the first two Super Bowl 1 and 2 retrospectively. And were they always doing it with Roman numerals? They love that, don't they?

I think it wasn't until the fifth one, I think, that they did Roman numerals. And there is a reason. I can't remember if I mentioned any of it. Oh no, I do. They call them Super Bowl 1, 2, 3, et cetera, set of the year because the Super Bowl has always been played in January or February, while the season has always started the previous calendar year. So they can't call it Super Bowl 66 because it's actually played in 67.

Well, we managed to deal with the hottest 100. So maybe just fucking, you know, assume that your audience isn't an idiot. Yeah, and I also, they say that's, That's why they use Roman numerals, but why not just use... Numbers. You know, the classic Arabic numbers. Is they Arabic? The normal numbers?

Normal. Sorry to the Romans listening. Normal. You know, our regular numbers. Sorry. Yeah. Met no offence to the Roman numeral people out there. Because it's brutal.

This whole report, I spent a lot of time going, fuck, what's that one? And we're going, what does this mean in Roman numerals? It's difficult, isn't it? It's not like, you know the basic ones, but once you get up high, like they're starting they get pretty long and stuff. Yeah, it's too confusing. But I imagine that that probably helped Americans, they know Roman numerals like the back of their hand just because of Super Bowls.

Maybe. So anyway, before Super Bowl 3, Joe Namath, okay, Broadway Joe, that sexy man, quarterback for the AFL's New York Jets, famously guaranteed his Jets would win before the game. And he backed this up, beating the Baltimore Colts. 16-7. The Kansas City Chiefs repeated the Jets feet the following year, helping establish the Super Bowl as the true decider of the best team in the land. So the AFL teams are starting to win and they're going, all right, this is a fair competition now.

The Super Bowl is a worthy event. You know, sometimes otherwise you go, the real championship game is the two NFL top teams playing off to decide. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And then the Super Bowl is this silly thing we do after where the NFL team flows. Yeah, we're going to crush it. But that's great.

So they win two and a round. and everyone goes, okay, all right. It's almost like how the state of origin rugby league game between New South Wales and Queensland is seen as being a higher standard game than any international games because Australia's kind of dominant in rugby league in particular, or traditionally has been, I don't know if that's still true, whereas very much not the case in rugby union

because birded this little team called the All Blacks go okay. Am I right there, Bob? Bob's looking at me like, you fucking idiot, you're fucking up. Are you asking me if the all blacks go all right? Is that what you're bloody saying, mate? I think they're going a little more than all right. So, yeah, all the numbers being in Roman numerals, there's an exception of this rule,

and that was Super Bowl 50. For some reason, they used the classic Arabic numerals 5-0. And apparently, I was thinking, is that because 50 in Roman numerals is L and L's short for loser? You know, and they're like, we can't have a loser. They can't have Super Bowl loser. We're Super Bowl winner.

But apparently that's not the case, called a dictionary.com. It was because NFL ad designers felt that the Super Bowl L title was too unattractive and unmarketable so they opted to use the number 50 instead. Right. I think it's weird.

It just seems weird. When you see more listed next week, each other and all of a sudden it's 5-0. And then what's the next one? Is it like L-I or something? Yeah, L-I. Well, then, oh, that's dumb. If you think L isn't marketable, L-I isn't a lot better.

Now we're talking. Oh, that's beautiful. Oh, that's nice. I think it was controversial. I imagine some people are like, it's kind of weird to just do one that isn't like that. Oh, the Romans were furious. There's something kind of far.

I kind of like that it's Roman numerals, but if it was me, I would have just gone with the Arabic ones from the start. It was almost like they didn't think it was going to last that long. You know, you go up to X, but fair enough. Yeah, X, that sounds cool. Speaking of advertising, so it was clear that the advertisers held a lot of power. The NFL's like, yeah, it's Super Bowl L, and the advertisers were like, nah, that's actually, and the NFL's like, oh, really?

Oh, that's kind of a thing. We've done it 49 times before this. Sorry, nah. We're the ad people. We own you. According to Business Insider, the Super Bowl is more like a national holiday than a sporting event,

and it's one that involves watching, evaluating and discussing television commercials. This tradition has turned the Super Bowl into the championship of advertising. Apple's 1984 Super Bowl ad is credited with paving the way for the advertising showcase that the Super Bowl has become. Do you even know this ad?

Yeah, I do know. It's kind of like a futuristic, like is it dystopian future type thing? And I forget, but it was like some big director. It was directed by Ridley Scott. Okay, cool. Yeah. So, yeah, that sort of set the standard where people are like, oh, it can be like almost cinematic.

It doesn't have to just be, hey, buy cheese it. It's yum. Cheese it. Now I'm going to cheese it. Oh, that sounds wrong. Steve Hayden, who was one of the creators of the ad, the Apple ad, talked about how it ended up running during the Super Bowl in an interview with Business Insiders brought to you by a podcast.

Hayden said that Steve Jobs wanted an ad to announce the advent of Macintosh that would stop the world in its tracks. After someone suggested the only place to do that would be the Super Bowl, Hayden recalls how Jobs said he didn't know anyone that watched the Super Bowl. Does anyone watch? I don't know. It's because Jobs only knows.

Nerds. You're a freaking nerd, Steve. Which is funny because I feel like if it wasn't always, it's become a pretty big nerd game with fantasy football and all that stuff as well. Totally, but I love you. I don't know anyone and they're like, well, it says here last year

35 million people watched it. Sounds like a glitch. Yeah. I don't know anyone. You've really lowballed that number. I'll talk about the same. I don't want to go too high to make it sound bad. The ad which was directed by Ridley Scott almost wasn't shown at the Super Bowl, but is now hailed as a major turning point in Super Bowl advertising.

Rich Silveston, who's an ad man, says that the 984 ad changed everything and made the Super Bowl an advertising event. So this ad was written a couple of years ago in 2020, saying the price of a 30-second Super Bowl spot continues to climb with Fox charging as much as $5.6 million this year. But in 2020, that's for a 30-second ad. Wow. Even though Super Bowl TV viewership dropped each of the last four years to the lowest level in a decade in 2019, it's still very high numbers, which I'll talk about soon.

Silverstein says, you cannot ignore the Super Bowl. He insists it is worth it because it isn't just the ad in the Super Bowl. It's before the Super Bowl, and there's also an afterlife. life as well. Last year, the major Super Bowl commercials that were released before the game, which is interesting, they now release them online before the game to build up hype for the ads. Here it comes. It's the M&M's ad. And apparently the ads that are released before the game are seen 100 million times by Friday morning. What? So just knowing that they're going to be there, and it's a while that that's the price to put it the ad on. They would spend millions making

the ads as well. There's always like celebrity appearances and stuff like that. They're getting millions of dollars. Yeah, wow. Studies have shown that the economics do work. Movies with trailers at air during the Super Bowl were found to boost opening weekend sales by more than twice the cost of the ad time. And a Stanford study showed that Budweiser's Super Bowl ads boosted its sales by almost twice what they spent on the commercials. A.B. InBev's US chief marketing officer, Marcel Marconidis, Marcondes, points out that... Is that all one name, Marcel Marconides, Marcon Des? He wishes.

Anyway, Marcondes points out that it's rare to see a country that has a moment like this when the whole nation stops in front of a TV set to really watch the game. This is one thing, but I think Super Bowl brings something else on top of this, which is the fact that people are willing to see the commercials. This doesn't happen anywhere, I guess. It's an advertising festival as well. Geez, ad people love talking about it. It's not just about the football.

This is about the advertising. But he is right. This is the one thing where people actually watch the ads. Totally. Usually you're like, oh, great, I'll go get something. Exactly. Mute this, yeah. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, I don't think there's anything like that in Australia where we go. All the big ads are coming out today. Oh, do you reckon they'll have Delta Goodrum or Shane Jacobson endorsing the product? Although, amazingly, there used to be a show hosted by, I think one of the Dado brothers, which was just playing ads, great ads. I forget what it was called great ads. I really hope it was called great ads.

It was like a primetime show, and it was just him hosting from a studio throwing to ads. But was it like worldwide ones as well? Yeah. Stuff from Europe. Yeah, you know, almost like, you know, sketches, and they were funny usually, I think. But yeah, such a funny idea.

Apparently the average cost of a 30-second ad spot for Super Bowl 1 in 1967 was 42. 500. So it started off pretty expensive, but I mean, that has grown, like I said, to over 5 million now. Even in the early days, the ad breaks were seen as very important during the first Super Bowl, which was simulcast on NBC and CBS. This is because each league had its own TV deal. Yep. So they both networks showed the match with their own commentators and everything. And I think it led to like a TV share of over 70% for the game. which I don't think has been top since then.

But NBC was still in an ad break when the second half kicked off. So the officials, when it was realised, the officials made the Packers retake the kickoff. They're like, you know, normally it'd just be like, oh, they missed the start. The network fucked up and missed the start of the play. They're like, well, the network missed the start of the play, do it again. Go again.

Go again. Back on your marks. They're a Rupert-Merdock equivalent. It's like, sorry, I was in the can, I missed a bit. Can you do it again? Yeah, it sounds like sort of North Korea stuff. Yeah, yeah. Not all ads pre-recorded either.

According to mental floss, which I got a bunch of fun facts sort of spread throughout the rest of the report from them. After winning Super Bowl 21, New York Giants quarterback Phil Silms yelled, I'm going to Disney World. Disney paid him $75,000 to do this. After he won, he just made sure his near a camera and just yelled at it. It wasn't a gamble for them, though, on the result because they also paid opposition player

Denver's John Elway the same amount to the L's same thing in case the result went the other way. But if you lost it, you'd just say, I'm going to Disney World. I wish I was going to Disney World. John Elway. I assume he still got paid either way, so it's kind of a good deal. If you lose, you don't have to do this weird Disney thing.

But you still get $75,000. Television ratings, like I was saying, huge. according to Mendel Floss, in 1983, 105.97 million people tuned in to the final episode of MASH, making it the most watched TV broadcast in American history. To me, that is mind-blower. I know. It was the most depressing.

I remember they'd replay it when I was a kid, maybe before or after The Simpsons, and it was just... It was just that show that was always on, and you'd be like, oh, no, MASH is on. Yeah, I'd probably appreciate it more now, As a kid. Oh, really? You're like, oh, no, MASH is on.

I'd be like, yes, MASH. Anyway, so MASH had this record. I can't believe that many people watched a sad sitcom. But anyway, it took more than a quarter century, but in February 2010... Just say Feb. But in Feb 2010, Super Bowl... I'm going to say,

44 X-L-I-V finally broke that record when 106.5 million people watched the New Orleans Saints beat the Indianapolis cults. The seven Super Bowls that followed from 2011 and 2017 all broke even that record with Super Bowl X-L-I-X, what's that? 49, which was, is it? I'm going to say, I just looked up X-L-I-V, that was 44. you want X-L-I-X? Yeah, that is one below. Yep. So that one was played on Feb-1, 2015,

and that currently holds the top spot with 114.4 million viewers on average. That's not the peak. That's the average viewer numbers, yeah. Ectic. What is that? It's almost five times Australia's population. Heck tick.

The Super Bowl gets such great ratings that the networks will use it as a lead-in for new shows. successful shows over the years that premiered after the Super Bowl include the Wonder Years Family Guy and the classic undercover boss They all got that sweet start and they rode that wave to success

Something that helps boost the TV ratings And I think probably almost the most famous thing about this When do you think of the Super Bowl What do you think of? The game, the ads Half-time show. Exactly, the halftime shows. Of course!

I was like The cup. Yeah, well, I'll mention the cup soon. Vince? Yes, lifting the Vincy. Vincy or can't wait to plant my lips on Vince. Yeah, what if they talk about it? Because with the Brownlow, best player in the AFL, Australian football league,

they talk about taking Charlie home. What if they talk about taking Vince home? I'd want to take Vince home tonight. Polish up old Vince. Give Vince a little smooch. From very humble beginnings, the halftime show has evolved into one of the biggest TV events in its own right. To illustrate how popular halftime show has become, according to today I found out.com, more people watch Madonna's 2012 halftime performance than the actual Patriots versus Giants game,

which was apparently a classic game as well. But yeah, people were like, oh, football's back on. Turn off. Oh, Madge's done. The Super Bowl won halftime show. So like I said, started from humble beginnings. They had two marching bands, a trumpeter named Al Hurt, I think it's like a trumpet legend, and two men in jet packs as well as 300 pigeons.

Two men in jet packs is pretty sick. That's pretty cool. And 300 pigeons is a lot, especially if you've trained them to do some sort of formation. That's sick. That could be a nightmare for the men in jet packs, though. Yeah. It's a real hazard. 300 fiction.

Ow, oh, God! I think the jet packs might have been the highlight. Over the first decades, the entertainment often featured university marching bands. Often jet packs. But then they had occasional big names, but not many. Ella Fitzgerald performed a song at Super Bowl 6.

Generally, the halftime show was used as a toilet break for viewers at home. There's been a rumor that because of that, there's sewer problems that are caused by half-time in the Super Bowl because everyone's flushing at the same time. But apparently there's Snopes.com. I looked it up and apparently there's no evidence to back that up. But fun idea.

In 1977, this maybe is my favourite of all of the Super Bowl entertainments. The entertainment included a frisbee-catching dog named Ashley Whippet. Here, boy. This is a big football pitch? There's just a guy throwing a frisbee to a dog. To a dog and a jet back. My dad often tells a story about, I think, being in a cricket game, and there was two people throwing a frisbee for the dog,

and the crowd going fucking wild every time the dog called the frisbee. And he said, like, it just got more and more and more, people just going absolutely nuts. And then one time, I think there was a man and a woman, and the man threw the frisbee to the woman and she caught it. In her mouth? He's not in her mouth, in her hands. A bit lame.

And she'd kind of like, you know, curtsied or whatever. Like, you know, gestured like, how good was that? And the whole stadium was just silent. What? What? What? We don't care about it. You caught a frisbee.

Make that dog catch it. It's awesome. And then she throws it to the dog and everyone's like, yeah. Yeah. He's told that story many times. Oh, that's really. The poor lady. Yeah, that's brutal.

I train for months for this. Don't show off then. Don't show off about it. That's what we don't like in Australia. We don't like people who show off. We like dogs who show off. Take a bow, dog. I love that dog.

That dog is my best friend. So, yeah, I mean, it's hard to top the Ashley Whippet performance. Ashley. Yeah. History.com has an article that goes through some of the weird and wonderful highlights and lowlights from over the years. and I'll summarize some of these now. Super Bowl 4 in 1970 between Kansas City Chiefs

and Minnesota Vikings in New Orleans. The Weather Bureau issued a tornado warning. And then a hot air balloon carrying a Vikings mascot crashed into the stands. Like it was struggling to take off. And then it just started going sideways, you know, like 10 feet off the ground. It's great footage. There was a lot of panic. but no one got hurt, but yeah, pretty amazing.

Then at halftime, the same game, the Chief's Hot Air Balloon, which was meant to race the Vikings balloon at halftime. I can't believe they didn't bail on it after the near disaster before the game. They couldn't even get it airborne at all. So it was just an absolute fizzar. Producers then aimed to dazzle

with a massive model of a Mississippi River steamboat laden with women in hoop skirts, But that shipped in sail, ironically, as the field was too wet from a pregame downpour. So they couldn't even get the... I mean, it was meant to be this big thing. We're going to have a big, it's sort of like a steamboat. And it's not, but it's like a float that looks like a steamboat. We're going to send it across the field.

Oh, it's too wet to do it, though. But, I mean, that was going to be pretty good. It was such a low bar and they didn't clear it. But then it wasn't the end of it. It was just everything just didn't work that day. They organize a battle of New Orleans reenactment. You familiar with the Battle of New Orleans? Apparently is a famous battle between, I guess, the English red coats,

and the Americans and the French, I'd think, because it's in New Orleans. But it also flopped. The white stallion of Andrew Jackson, bolted when exploding cannons, created a deafening roar. The horse just ran off before its cue. And the Associated Press wrote at the time, Maybe that's the reason the scene ended with such an unhistorical twist where the yanks and Frenchmen all sprawled on the ground in death

and the red-coated British still firing away spiritedly. The British won the reenactment. Bit of fun. Super Bowl 23. And by the 1980s, the Super Bowl was must-see TV. But the halftime show was becoming a punchline. Not even the second jetpack appearance at Super Bowl 19 could shake the malaise. Recognising the need to change the narrative, producers of Super World 23

halftime show in 1989 created one of the oddest experiences in television history. Coca-Cola was the sole sponsor for a show incorporating 3D technology called New Optics. For TV viewers to fully appreciate the Whizbang performance, the soft drink company distributed 26 million pairs of 3D glasses with its product. A clever marketing trick by Coke because it meant that everyone had to go buy Coke to get the glasses. And that included, you know, like pubs and whatever. There was one bar and had to buy so much coke just to have glasses for his patrons. Kind of a clever scam in some ways.

Bob Costas from the NBC through to the halftime event with the famous line, This is the single proudest moment of my life. He was taking the piss. It's amazing that the anchor, they're always so professional, just couldn't even hide it. But it's... I think it's so good.

The show, I think, was called Bebop Bamboozled, and it featured Elvis Presto and Elvis impersonator slash magician who performed magic tricks as 3D graphics flashed behind him and dancers performed a 1950s music amid computer generator revolving cars and spinning planets. This sounds so ridiculous.

One of his tricks was basically a big, Is this your card? Only with a much bigger card. The 3D viewing largely fizzled with the public. A reviewer wrote it was like watching a football halftime show in the distorted reflection of an old mirror. Mental Floss did a good article about behind the scenes of it all including like the guy who came up with the concept

and people from the NFL. And it sounds like it was such a stressful mess. They had to replace the Elvis impersonator at the last. minute because the guy who was meant to be Elvis, Elvis Presto, he picked up a gig in a Japanese commercial at the last minute, so he left. Imagine anything now, hey, you're the main act of the Super Bowl halftime show. There's no bigger gig. But it's like, I'm in an ad.

Yeah. Well, I think the ad paid, and there was pretty poor pay for the, a lot of the acts don't get paid at all, but I think this guy was only going to get paid a little bit. So he's like, I'm going to take the money over in Japan. And the 3D stuff, that was a Coke idea, I think from both meetings of the word. And they threw that in at the last minute. Coke goes to the NFL, we want to do a 3D thing. And NFL went to, I think the Elvis impersonating people were already organizing a thing.

And they're like, you have to incorporate 3D into it now. They're like, what? It's next week. What the fuck? I think my highlight of, this of all the reading I've done this week was Elvis Presto. I just think it's so, the guy in that interview was talking about how he's like, oh, when we thought of it.

It just works. It just works on so many levels. There's a group online on Facebook called the Great Mate Sports posting, and the Great Mate, it's spelled with AIDS. It's a group. People should join if they're an interesting sport. sort of like a pun of broadcasting

listeners who also like sports are in there. So I posted it in the the other day asking if they had any things that I should mention and I've sort of used some of it.

There were too many people commented to read them all out but Kerry Perrin wrote that in 1991 the new kids on the block performed but the Gulf War was kicking off at that time, Desert Storm.

So they were bumped from the live broadcast with a war report taking its place. Oh, wow. Yeah. Then at Super Bowl 27 at the Rose Bowl, back where the bowl name came from, in 1993, this is one of the most famous one, Michael Jackson performed solo. This is seen as the beginning of the halftime show becoming a big name thing. Before his performance fans rushed on the field, then Jackson stood there in silence for almost two minutes as anticipation grew. And then apparently he just nailed the performance. And then he just farted. I was the same producer as Elvis Presto. Called it Michael Flatchelonson.

Michael Flachan. Elvis Presto. You guys gave it nothing. It's, I mean, we just don't love. We don't love puns as much as you. It's not a, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. Presto and Presto.

I guess it's sort of. But it's like, they wanted to do a magic thing and they're like, how do we tie it in? Elvis Presley. So many years after he died, it made no... Anyway, all right. Can't get you on board. I feel, I can understand that.

Anyway, so Michael Jackson put on quite a performance. People raved about it. Not everyone, though. One letter to a newspaper wrote to the uneducated observer, it would indeed seem to be merely a vulgar display of self-indulgence. as well the crotch grabbing.

Over the following years, he sort of kicked off a wave of big names. Over the following years, performers like Diana Ross, Zizi Top, James Brown, Boys to Men, Stevie Wonder, Phil Collins, Aerosmith, and you too performed. Then there was Super Bowl 38.

If the King of Pops' performance was one of the greatest in Super Bowl history, his sister Janet Jackson showing at Super Bowl 38 in 2004, was the most controversial. MTV produced a star-studded show, infamous for Justin Timberlake tearing off part of Jackson's top and exposing her breast for a split second as she sang, Rock Your Body. That year's show also included P Diddy, Nelly, Jessica Simpson and Kid Rock,

but it's most remembered for this wardrobe malfunction. The FCC fined CBS, the Super Bowl broadcast that year, and Jackson was blacklisted by TV, radio stations. But Timberlake, who remained fully clothed during his performance, suffered no penalty. According to Rolling Stone, it killed off Janet Jackson's previously unstoppable career, almost 20 years of hitmaking zapped in one breast bounce. I don't like that.

I am. He killed Justin's too. As his clumsy and none too gallant handling of the controversy ended his post and sick honeymoon with the public, though he sort of bounced back in a couple of years with the help of Timberland and his sexy back and all those songs, I guess. But yeah, amazing. Apparently Janet Jackson's career has never recovered. What?

I mean, is it, and I don't know that much about it, but was it planned or was it an accident? Well, I think the theory is it was planned, it seemed, like, it seemed weird that it just... Of course it was planned. It fucking, it tore away perfectly and she had like a little nipple pasty on. So... Okay, well, obviously I haven't analysed the footage as closely as Jess Perkins has, but But it's the OG wardrobe malfunction. That's like where that was, where that term was used.

Except. What about two weeks ago in the Live Aid report? We had Mick Jagg accidentally took off Tina Turner's skirt during their performance. And many people thought that that was planned. Oh, right. Oh, so maybe they were, yeah, this is probably all written somewhere, but maybe it was seen as trying to create a similar thing. But it's obviously, so are we saying that it backfired?

Who do you think planned it bought then? Well, I mean, I mean, I don't care that much to have strong opinions about it. And I haven't seen it for a long time. I've just Googled it. But it's like the third thing that comes up when you Google Jackson. So it's still, you know. And you wonder, like, if it was anyone other than just her. And I had to at least be her and Timberlake.

Yeah. But probably the producers as well. and they've just let her cop it all. Yeah, exactly. They've let it cop her all. But I'm just wondering, what's the official story from them? They're saying, oh, it was an accident and we should still punish her. Yeah, no, yeah, surely they must be like, you can't punish her unless you think it was planned, right?

Yeah, I don't know. Like, I think, well, I'm reading, I'm just found the Wikipedia, and it says exactly what Matt said. It's just, you know, it's just for a second and then it immediately cuts to a wide shot. but it feels like it was sort of part of the choreography. I don't really know why he would grab her there improv. Yeah, that should be the story otherwise. Yeah, if that happened and you're like, you're dancing and doing a song with someone,

you've rehearsed it many, many, many, many times because it's for the Super Bowl, which is a big deal. And then he suddenly grabs your boob. You're going to be like, dude, what the fuck? Also, there's a still afterwards that I'm looking at where she's covering her breast and then JT is standing next to her. doesn't look like, oh shit. Yeah, and neither is she.

Super embarrassed. He's looking, he just looks, he's giving his sexy eyes. Yeah, interesting. Even if it is, why would you blacklist someone for that? Who cares? Yeah. I think it's, it's a daytime TV? They're worried about the children. I guess so.

I don't know them, but the children are, hang on, hang on, here we go. One of the suggested Googles was was Nipplegate planned and here stylist says Janet Jackson's Super Bowl wardrobe monk function was planned by Justin Timberlake. That plan was eventually

next and they decided to pull off Janet's top instead. What did you plan? Oh, he was going to drop trout. He was going to get it out. He was going to get his nipple out. Yeah, I really don't. I really don't know. I think I'm basing that on thoughts that I, you know, heard at the time.

I don't care that much. I think it's ridiculous that something like that ended her career. God's sake, it's just a bird. Thank you Dave. It's just a boob. And one day you'll get to see one little buddy. I'm sure of it. Well, I'm on Google Images. All right. Not at work, please, mate. Not at work, okay? But yeah, it does seem, no matter how planned accident to stop her career is so wide. Ridiculous.

And the Rolling Stone article also suggests that because MTV produced it, that was the moment that they decided to bail out of the music business entirely. They reckon it sort of ended MTV's been a proper music station. They killed MTV. Yeah, sort of. The nipple that killed MTV. That was from a Rolling Stone article that ranked the performances from best to worst, or worst to best. The worst ever it said was one of Dave's favourite bands, the Black-Eyed Peas.

Oh, boom-boom-boom. Two thousand-11 performance, Rolling Stone said, Music had a rough day. Yeah. But they rated Prince's 2007 performance as the best, and this seems to be the consensus. Most articles I read, and I watched the performance,

it's pretty amazing. That Facebook group I was talking about, great mate's sports posting, in that Bradley Trennery talked about Prince's performance, saying, Super Bowl 41 had booked Prince as the halftime entertainment. The weather forecast said there would be torrential rain, so the organizers were thinking of changing or even canceling the halftime show.

When they called Prince to tell him that they were going to expect a lot of rain during his performance and that would be difficult to perform in, he paused and then asked if they could make it rain more. Oh, that's badass. One question. Can you make it rain more? Is that all you got? Like, that's a very cool response from Prince,

but then imagine being that person who had to have that conversation with him and you're like, no. I... Sorry, Prince, but... Sorry, Prince, I know you're a magical being, but do you understand how weather works? So did it rain during his... It did rain.

Purple. And it's seen as being one of the greatest halftime shows ever, if not the greatest. And he finished with an epic extended version, lots of solos and stuff, version of purple rain. The whole stadium, purple rain coming down.

It was pretty, it was magic. That's cool. That's so cool. Yeah, it was really, really cool. How did they make the rain purple? Did they put food dye in the clouds? Yes. They had to go up with some New York Jets and sort of shoot purple food dye into the clouds. That's nice.

As it's raining in his solo and can you just hear him yelling, more, more. More. That all you got? That all you got, clouds. More. I'm Prince, but I'm Prince. I think that there was sort of like, I think the television in broadcast or I don't know if it was the ground. It looked like they were doing fake lightning effects as well.

So maybe they were like, maybe we can chuck in some CGI I guess, maybe. According to History.com, after the nipplegate, the NFL were eager to play it safe. So they booked Paul McCartney, the Rolling Stones, Prince, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Bruce Springsteen and the East Street Band, and the Who for the next five Super Bowl half-time shows.

Sorry, I thought there was one show going, what? What is happening? So by that list, I can assume that playing it safe seems to mean not booking any women. And as the feminist of the pod, I think that makes sense. You just never know when they're going to get a tit out. Yeah.

It's absolutely right. They've just gone, I can't take that risk again. Let's get a bunch of old men. And we won't get, and we won't get JT out because he'll just dack everyone. I'm sure that's not what they were in,

the history.com was meaning to intend. They're saying, like, just less pop stars, just more old. old rockers. Rockers who don't tend to get too risque, but that's basically the same thing. All old white men. They rarely get their nipples out on stage.

How many times? No wiggy pop, of course. In the six plus years that we've been doing this podcast, how many times have I got a tit out? Lost count. Counted on a couple of hands. Yeah, a couple of hands, a couple of feet. Yeah.

And we've only done, but we've done like 320 plus episodes. Yeah. Yeah. So like percentage-wise, I've been. been very conservative. It's rare. I'm a prude. And you always have those, what do you call it?

There's little libel pasties on. Always glittery ones, of course. You never know when you're going to get a tit out, so you've got to prepare. The actual offensive bit is the ariole. Exactly. That's disgusting. God, it makes me vomit. But men's nipples, beautiful.

Oh, a thing of beauty. So gorgeous. Well, Janet Jackson's career. was ended by that incident. Justin Tim Blake was invited back and performed at the 2018 show. It doesn't seem strange. It's like, how do you blacklist one and then go to the other one who clearly did it? And go, wow, you're forgiven.

You're fine. Wouldn't it be, it would be so, I think it would be so smart for them to have Janet Jackson back anyway. We'd all be watching. Everyone would watch that for sure. And it would just be a cool, it would just be a cool thing to go, hey, we're not stuck in the past. Yeah. And she has so many hits. hits too.

Yeah. It likes to be a perfect medley artist. Totally, exactly. Another one that's kind of iconic, but I don't really get why. It was 2015's Katie Perry performance. She had two guys in shark costumes as backup dances. Oh, that's right.

Oh, yeah. And according to History.com, a shark became a sensation during Katie Perry's performance. The teenage dream. While the dancing right shark performed capably, the left shark danced comically out of sync. I watched the footage. I'm like,

I could hardly tell that they were doing anything different. That's because you have no rhythm. That's true. That is true. But it's just funny. I've seen an interview with the guy who was in the left sharp suit. And he's like, you know, they told me to have fun with it. He's like, I did what they wanted me to do.

He's like, I didn't, it wasn't a fuck up or anything. And apparently he puts on his, like his CV. I was left shark. Famous left shark. Yeah, the internet mocked it and became a meme, all that sort of stuff. But the choreographer of the show poured cold water on the topic saying the sharks were giving two main objectives. One, performed Katie's trademark moves to the Teenage Dream Chorus,

which they both did perfectly, and two, to have loads of fun and bring to life these characters in a cartoon manner, giving them a tweedle-de-dle-d-dweed-d-d-d-d-d-tete-d-d-tie-d-tied-type persona. And he's like, nailed it. They did it. Right. Yeah. I just watch it.

I'm like, I was expecting, I'm like, I am ready to laugh at this shark. This shark is going to fall off this stage. Yeah, I just thought it'll be something. You like pre-filled your mouth with water so you could do a great spit take. Yeah. Here we go. Let's get back to the football. That's been a nice little halftime break there.

Let's talk about Vince. Who's taking Vince home tonight? Who's going to smooch up Vinci? So Vince Lombardi was the co-exambers. was the coach of the Green Bay Packers when they won Super Bowl 1 and 2, as well as three of the last five pre-super Bowl NFL championships before the leagues came together. When he died in 1970, it was decided the Super Bowl trophy would be named in his honour,

and the Super Bowl winners still hoist the Vince Lombardi trophy to this day. Unlike the old Ed Thorpe trophy, each year a new Lombardi trophy is made for the winning team to keep. The trophies are made out of sterling silver by Tiffany and co, and it takes the jewel of four months to make the trophy, which I don't understand. Wow. It's made by Tiffany and Co.

Yeah. Cool. Do they like deliver it to them in that classic mint green box with a little Mo? I hope so. And assume. Wow. Speaking of the Edthorpe trophy, it became embroiled in a mystery of its own.

The first trophy had its mystery, the one that was donated by the Tired department. And the Edthorpe Trophy, the one that replaced it also, ended up in a bit of a mystery. The last time it was believed to be awarded was the year before the merger when the Minnesota Vikings won it

taking out the NFL championship. And they were thought to have accidentally left it behind it a gas station on their way to Super Bowl four. Some believe that this has led to the Vikings receiving the Edthorpe curse. Oh no! As since then, the team has lost all four

of its Super Bowl appearances. This seems to be a furfeworthy. though, as the trophy has since turned up at the Green Bay Hall of Fame and it seems that it was never even presented to the Vikings in 1969 which is a shame because I really love a curse story. Oh, you love a curse.

Damn it. I know something you've both been wondering and you're like, when's you going to get to it? Yeah. Well, here we go. This is how the Super Bowl stadium is selected. Oh. Basically cities apply and they pitch for it.

It's sort of like the Olympics or whatever. But there's certain things your city has to have and your stadium has to have to be eligible. And a document was leaked a few years ago, which lists the requirements of what the city needed to come up with. The document was 153 pages long. Oh, my God. The longest rider in history, you will need a good supply of. The helicopter needs to be blue on the inside.

According to Sports Illustrated, the mammoth document includes all of the expected requests, such as a minimum of 70,000 fixed seats, luxury boxes, and enough hotel rooms throughout the city. But there are plenty of non-game-related caveats as well, including having reservations at two, quote, top-quality bowling lanes, and three, top-quality 18-hole golf courses

in near proximity to the host venue. It seems like the bosses at the NFL just use it, and they're like, we're going to have a good time. and we can just make a city give us a great holiday. They're so rich. It's so weird to be like, and you're going to pay us,

you're going to pay for our golf game and our bowling game. Do they reckon they ever actually go bowling? Or that is no, that's there. Yeah, I wonder. Who's got time for bowling? Yeah. Super Bowl weekend. The real Super Bowl is 10-pint.

Yeah, all the bosses are just there. And they're going, no one. We got that one just to take everyone's attention away. Well, we play for the real pro. real one. And they're playing for like the corpse of Vince Lombardi or something. They're playing for that first trophy that they lost all this years ago. Yeah, that's right.

When a host city can't meet the demands, they sometimes have to get creative, like Jacksonville in Florida, who hosted Super Bowl 39, because they didn't have enough hotel rooms to meet the NFL's requirements. They had to dock five luxury cruise ships to work as floating hotels for the event.

That's thinking. That's usually an old-groom. And they probably also have bowling alleys on board. Yeah, exactly. So that's the, to be. Birds want stone scenario. The NFL also requests that team hotels subscribe to the NFL network for at least one year leading up to the Super Bowl.

Why? It's like we really need those subscription dollars. Who's got to subscribe? The hotels where the players will stay for a year leading up to it. They've got to subscribe to the... So the staff might recognize when John Elway walks in or something? It's so weird. Also, leading up to the Super Bowl, the league must be given priority overall.

ice and snow project removal outside of those that directly threaten life or public safety. Oh, okay, that's good. That's nice of them. Yeah, but if it's just some guy trying to get to school. Fuck him. Then it takes. Don't care.

Ignore. Are you crushed? Are you crushed by snow? If not, move on. Fuck off. Fuck off. Leave him. They also require full taxes exemption from the city, state and local taxes

on tickets sold to the game and the events leading up to it. They just hold them at ransom, basically. Wow. You want it? If you want it, we're going to take everything we can. I will need eight suitcases full of gold bars, drop top at my house. Fucking hell. Yeah, the 153 pages of these sort of stipulations.

That's wild. But is it worthwhile for the city because, like, the boost to the economy? Bring so much. Yeah. Yeah, surely, they must do the, you know, the studies to make sure. Although they say the Olympics now Cost billions. Cost more than they make, I think, for a host city.

And that's why less and less cities are asking for. Apparently Melbourne has been invited to put its hand up for the Commonwealth Games. Because no one else. No one for the hand up. For the Commonwealth. Yeah, do you want to... We hosted it in 2006. They're like, hey, nobody wants it.

To save embarrassment, do you mind if you, ask us if you can have it. I reckon you could ask for a residency. We did it every year for 50 years. But it was also the same with Brisbane and Gold Coast for the Olympics. I think they were basically like, if you want it, you can have it. No one else has applied. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's, I think, sounds like the Super Bowl might be going in the same direction. If all that gets out of hand, they might, eventually cities are going to be like, maybe. If it gets too expensive, they're really going to have to take this back a bit. One last thing that I'll mention is they also make the host city pay all travel and expenses for a familiarization trip for the league to inspect the region ahead of the Super Bowl. So, like, you also just pay for a little holiday for us to come here. We just want to come. It's like, they're all billionaires and millionaires.

They go, it's so funny how little rich people pay for stuff. Yeah. Well, how do you think they got so rich? Yeah, that's true. So yeah, they're just super tight-asses, I think, the NFL. Speaking of them being tight, they're really tight with their trademarks. Apparently in America leading up to the Super Bowl, lots of ads, and you'll hear radio hosts and see a lot of social media posts

refer to the Super Bowl as the big game instead of the Super Bowl. Why is this? Well, according to Vox.com, it's because they cannot say the Super Bowl unless they pay for that privilege, because it is a registered NFL trademark and has been since 1969. The league also owns the term Super Sunday, all the team names, logos and uniform designs,

and the Super Bowl shield graphic. I mean, a lot of that makes sense, but just... You can't say the name of the game. Are you going to go to the big game? You know the one I'm talking about? Yeah. And it seems like, you know, there should be a lot of exceptions,

but they're so extremely aggressive about protecting its trademarks that people are too afraid to even test them because I'll take them to court. I think surely the news can say it. Wow. Imagine seeing the news like the sports reporter being like, and the big game happening this weekend. Yeah.

No, surely the news can say it. According to this Fox article, the NFL would say that it has to be protective because if it doesn't prevent people from using the game's logo or name for free, how can it charge official sponsors millions of dollars to use it? For instance If we gave it out, we couldn't make millions, you understand. Well, for instance, Ann Hauser-Busch spends around $250 million a year

to be the only alcohol company allowed to advertise nationally during the game. It's not for the season. That's probably just during the Super Bowl. Shit. And to use the various Super Bowl trademarks on its products, it's not going to be thrilled if the NFL does nothing to protect its investment. That's what I would say. This is why the NFL frequently sues over counterfeit goods

that use the term or logo without permission, send cease and desist letters to churches that advertise Super Bowl parties. They've done this to multiple churches. There was one that was going to charge $3 for a fundraiser at the church to come and watch the Super Bowl. And in the ad it said, come to the Super Bowl party, $3.

That church got a cease and desist letter. And the priest was like, or the Reverend or whatever, was interviewed about and he's like, they might think they're bigger, but they're going to get what's going, he's basically saying, they're going to hell for this. They're not bigger than God. Yeah, the commissioner turns up and burns down the church.

Yeah, wild. NFL also had a brief beef with porn actress Jenna Jamison over a Super Bowl themed lingerie show. And for years it even insisted that watch parties hosted by any kind of organization could not use televisions larger than 55 inches. They'd come around with the tape measure. Are you fucking kidding me?

So weird. Because of all this Stephen Colbert had a running joke on his old show where he wouldn't say Super Bowl, but he would say superb owl. That's really funny. He tweeted in 2004. So I think he'd talk about the game, but then throw in owl facts as well to sort of.

And then in 2014 he tweeted, if you're a fan of my superb owl coverage, tweet about it with the official hashtag, hashtag superb owl, which is basically Super Bowl. That's so good. It sounds like I was saying in a lot of these cases is probably okay for small businesses

to use the term under nominative fair use. Many don't, though, because the NFL are so quick to sue and being sued by super rich organizations. you just, you know, they can just wait you out in court and all that sort of stuff. You know, they pay their lawyers and you just drain you of your funds or whatever. Funnily enough, according to Vox, this rule was established by the Ninth Circuit Federal Court of Appeals in California in 1992 when the boy band New Kids on the Block tried to sue a magazine

that had been operating a poll via a 1-900 number, encouraging people to call in and vote on which one of them was the hottest. Isn't that the funniest scam? A magazine's going, pay us to vote in a thing about who's the hottest, the thing that does not matter in any way. I would disagree. As the hottest member of this podcast, I would disagree that who's the hottest as a matter. What were the odds that the new kids on the block were to come up twice in any report,

let alone this report? Yeah, because they had, so the new kids on the block had their own 1,900 number, and you could pay to talk to them. So they, like the core, it must have been what the Corey hotline on this. Simpsons was based on. Yeah. So they argued there was possible confusion about the source of the product that consumer confusion is specifically what trademark is meant to protect against.

Anyway, they lost as the two phone lines were clearly different things and there was no way for the magazine to describe new kids on the block without saying new kids on the block. They've got to said, you know, the big boy band. The big band. So sometimes the NFL sort of suggests, you know, they don't have to say Super Bowl. They just say the big game, you know, that's what.

That's what people say. But in 2008, the NFL also tried to copyright the phrase the big game. Fucking hell. But they were unsuccessful. So people can still freely say the big game. Yeah, all that, I've found that amazing. Baffling. I'm just going to finish with a bunch of sort of slightly more football-related facts and stuff.

And these are mainly from some of those great mates posts and the sports post. Are you wanting me to decide if these are fun? Yeah, that would be good. I think some of them, I did say to them, ideally the fun facts would be fun for even people who don't give a fuck about football. And some of them are definitely, do not quite pass that test, I don't think. According to Column Connolly, as of the 2021 Super Bowl, Tom Brady has played in 10 Super Bowls,

which is more than half of his non-injured seasons as a starting quarterback. It's also 18% of all Super Bowls played till that point. 18, wow. Like since before he was born, that's counting those two others. He's played in 18% of all Super Bowls, which is wild. Lynn Hatt adds a couple more mind-blowing Brady Fax. Jess, I don't know. What do you think?

Is that a fun fact? That's amazing. So Lynn adds a couple more Brady Fax. He said he's a big Brady Stan and says Brady's seven Super Bowl wins a more than any individual team has won Super Bowls. The Patriots and Steelers have both won the most with six each. Brady has won seven. Wow.

That blew my mind. That's fun. The Patriots six Super Bowl wins. He was in all of those and then he went to the Buccaneers and won again. He, in fact, has more Super Bowl wins than the bottom 18 teams in the NFL combined. Combined. How many teams are there again? There's 32.

Oh, my God. Is it 32? Yeah. Four times four times two. Yep. Yep. After the Patriots and Steelers, I added this one, and this probably isn't that fun,

but after the Patriots and Steelers come the San Francisco 49ers and Dallas Cowboys of each one five. I mainly say this because I go for the 49ers and I want people to know that I also support successful teams, although admittedly they haven't won any since I started supporting. I like, when I started writing that, I'm like, see, I'm not a jinx. Hang on. Hang on.

I started going for them and they've lost two Super Bowls since then. Oh, no. Matt Stewart curse. Brady has also won the most Super Bowl MVP awards, the only Super Bowl MVP for two different teams, and he's the oldest person to win a Super Bowl MVP. Peyton Manning is the only other starting quarterback to win a Super Bowl for two different teams. Brady is also the only quarterback to win a Super Bowl

for both conferences, the only quarterback to win a Super Bowl in his home stadium, and the only person to win a Super Bowl in three different decades. which is, you know, old in itself. But I guess if you nail the timing, you know, it's reasonable to think people could do it over a 12-year-spin. Yeah. One final fact from Lynn.

This one's a general Super Bowl fact. The performers of the Super Bowl half-time show don't get paid a single cent. What? They get paid with, you guessed it, the exposure. But I think now you'd be like, all right, that is genuine exposure, although huge risk that it's also career ending. Oh, no. If you fuck it up.

So even now they don't get paid anything. Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it? The NFL are tight. They are so tight. They know that like, well, if you don't want to do it, Bruno Mars will do it. If he doesn't want to do it, cold play, I'll do it. Yeah, exactly. I'll make some goals.

Yeah, that's right. Jacob Petter-Platt says, I think that's the end of the Brady section. Do you want to give us a fun or non-fun? Oh, all fun. All fun. Brady, what a legend. You couldn't do a Super Bowl report without talking about Tom Without a guy that's one, 18% of them.

That's crazy. And he still looks young. I don't know what, it feels like he's unnatural somehow. Yeah, he's got some sort of oxygen chamber or something. Yeah, I reckon he sleeps in an oxygen chamber. Yeah. I hadn't thought of that. That makes sense.

It's probably rich enough to have an oxygen chamber. Yeah, and he's married to Giselle, isn't he? The animal. No, they're a model. So she, they're probably in a separate chamber. Right. The animal. Jacob Petter Platts says

One of the fun things they do Is get the cameraman to spot celebrities in the crowd I know I've seen Paul McCartney Bradley Cooper Stallone and others on the broadcast Just vibe and I love that from JPP Thank you Jacob

Just one of his I love that one of his favourite Super Bowl things is just watching the crowd I don't like watching the performers I don't like watching the football I don't like watching the ad I like watching people in the crowd. There's something for everyone.

That's what the Super Bowl means to me. According to Johnny Dudley, Chuck Howley, a Dallas Cowboys linebacker, remains the only player to win a Super Bowl MVP from a losing team. He was MVP in the Super Bowl 5 when the Cowboys lost to the Baltimore cults. I had to throw on some of these genuine footy facts

for the footy people. That is cool, though, that even though, even though, he obviously did a really good effort. Yeah, it must have been amazing. Now, the Super Bowl, MVP, Bob. Now that's the equivalent of the Norm Smith medal. Okay. You just said it an hour and a half early.

Yeah. It was just a bit of a delay, I think. Is there a bit of a delay at your end? That's happened in the AFL. The Norm Smith has gone to players on the losing team, but that used to happen because they would decide the Norm Smith medal before the end of the game. Which makes no... How do you know, like, the game's on the line and there's 20 minutes to go.

Someone could really pretty much win the Norm Smith medal. in that time alone. Like if someone kicks the winning goal on the siren. Yeah, or maybe kick the last four goals to, you know, it just makes no sense. And they got caught out one year. I think Buckley won up in a losing grand final and the result flipped in the meantime

and someone else, you know, won the game and it should have gone. But anyway, so I think they now do it at the end of the game. What an amateur sort of bungle that is. McKenna Middlebrook said, as a Buffalo fan, this episode will hurt me. And I'm like, I wonder what that makes. They're like, the Buffalo seem like a pretty good team. And then the very next comment, just coincidentally, I think they posted at the same time,

Connor Tyrell wrote, the Buffalo Bills went to four Super Bowls in a row and lost all four. Yeah, yeah, I can see what that might hurt you there, McKenna, sorry about that. Who knows that? Because we're recording this a little bit ahead of time. Buffalo Bills are still alive at time of recording. Who knows? So is Tom Brady? He's still alive at the time recording.

He's still alive. Wow. Even at his age. You should be in a retirement home. Ryan Blades wanted me to mention how cost prohibitive it is for an average fan to go to the Super Bowl. According to a great video I watched and we'll link to on the NFL throwback network, tickets to Super Bowl 1 went for six bucks, while Super Bowl 53 tickets went for an average of, have a guess, average ticket price.

Oh, 200. 4,600. What the hell? The average ticket. What? I thought 200 bucks, I was like, that's quite a lot for one game. Yeah. I think the AFL average price would be

Jess is holding on the picture of Tom Brady. Is that Tom Brady or Ryan Seacrest? So beautiful. It just, the funny thing is, like, if I see someone like that and this is pre-Tom Brady, I'd be like, geez, I bet that guy was college quarterback and homecoming king. And he probably was. Fucker.

Yeah, I'm just assume you're giving these all fun facts. Yeah, these are all fun. Yeah. Do you let me know if one isn't fun? Of course. Four grand, but is that because most tickets are like 50 bucks and then there's like corporate boxes that are like $30 million to buy one? I don't think so.

I think that's just the cheap tickets are still a lot of money. And you've got to get there because it's only once if they play their home stadium. Is that right? That's right, yeah. Recently? It just doesn't really happen. It's decided ahead of time. Ages in advance.

So like if you're a Baltimore fan or whatever that lives in L.A., you've got to fly there as well. Probably your combinations all. Yeah, everything goes up. Yeah. And this year, I mean, it's annoying that we're doing this at a time, but L.A. is still in with a chance to be one of the... I thought that would be the first ones to play a Super Bowl at their home stadium,

but maybe that's not right. Maybe it's winning at a home stadium or something. But didn't Tom Brady, you said before that Tom Brady's only one, he's one at a half... At his home stadium, I was... I was thinking maybe that was his home state rather than his team's home stadium. I thought in the last couple of years, one of them just happened to line up with the... Oh, okay.

You know, you might be right. It's one of those things. John, double-check that so people don't yell at their iPods. This one comes from Chad Metz, James, Jason Mack and Jonathan Garrett. They all mentioned that the Super Bowl Day is also a lot about food. So I'm like, I better look this up. And according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Super Bowl Sunday is America's second largest food consumption day.

Thanksgiving. Yes. Isn't that funny? Thanksgiving Day is a day for eating meals. Super Bowl Day, it's so funny that it's only beaten by a day that is basically called Food Eating Day. According to Franchise Sports.co.uk, Americans will consume 400% more burgers on Super Bowl Sunday than the UK does in the whole year.

What? Also, the amount of bacon eaten equates to 22,700 pigs. One little slice at a time. Americans on average will eat 6,000 calories, more than. than twice the recommended level on Super Bowl Sunday. And this makes sense after you hear all that. 6% of Americans will call in sick the day after Super Bowl. That's a big chunk.

Yes. Just fact-taking Super Bowl 55 played in 2021. Oh, right. Was that at Tampa Bay? At Tampa Bay. Gotcha. And that's the first ever time that a team has played at Super Bowl at their home stadium. But also it was the least attended Super Bowl due to COVID.

Only 25,000 people were allowed. Yeah, but they were all charged $1 million. Yeah, the tickets would have been more. You're right, you're right. Not sure if this one's a fun fact or not, Bob, but Mental Floss estimated that more than 23 million Americans were to legally bet approximately $4.3 billion on Super Bowl 55 in 2021. A record amount due in part to people in states like Colorado, Illinois,

and Michigan being able to legally wage on the game for the first time. 4.3 billion dollars gambled on the game. Wild. Josh Palmer mentioned the famous power outage of Super Bowl 47, which was played at the New Orleans Superdome between the Baltimore Ravens and the San Francisco 49ers. According to Wikipedia.org, Baltimore dominated the first half of the game, leading 21 to 6 at half time. The Ravens immediately picked back up.

They're scoring after Jacoby Jones' returned the second half kickoff, a record 108 yards that would give them a 28 to 6 lead. You know, the kickoff at the start of a half? The other team catches it normally gets tackled soon after and that's their starting spot to try and drive the ball up the field.

But he caught it and just straighted his way through the whole field. From 108 yards. Pretty cool, even though it was against my team. However, a partial power outage in the Super Bowl, the Superdome following the return, the play for 34 minutes, earning the game the added nickname of the blackout bowl. After play resumed, San Francisco began to rally,

scoring 17 unanswered third quarter points to cut the Ravens lead to 28 to 23, and their lead continued to get slimmer and slimmer in the fourth quarter, with the Ravens leading late in the game 34 to 29. The 49ers drove down to the Baltimore 7-yard line just before the two-minute warning, but turned the ball over on downs due to a controversial no-call. on fourth down. Does that sound a bit gibberish? Jess and I were looking into like, what the hell is this man to have?

I just saw Dave's face was as blank as mine. I was like, there's a lot of numbers here, there's a lot of jargon that don't follow. So basically there was a blackout. At the time of the blackout, the 49ers were getting flogged. After the blackout, the 49ers flew home and got really within seven yards of getting a touchdown to put them in front.

But the refs didn't make a call when I guess some thought there should have been a penalty for the 40s. but it wasn't so they turned the ball over and that was basically ended in the game. Ravens player Ray Lewis later stated in an interview that he believed the blackout was part of a conspiracy against the Ravens saying, so they were up

and then the blackout happened and then the game got a lot closer. He said, you're a zillion dollar company and your lights go out? No way. 49ers CEO Jed York responded to the claim on Twitter in Jess tweeting there is no conspiracy. I pulled a club. That's funny.

That's really good. A slightly grim more. This is from Meredith Semelbeck on that Facebook. Apology saw that there was so many people posted here. I wasn't able to get through them all. But like I say, join up that group, and you can read the thread yourself if you want to do your listener. But Meredith Semmelbeck wrote,

don't know if you want to go this dark, but the Super Bowl is paid by the military to integrate propaganda into their event, including pregame ceremonies, national anthem, military guests, presentation of colors, etc. It's used the big recruitment ad. That was interesting. Yeah, kind of like the Simpsons

when the Navy used a new kid's on the block style band. Oh, Ivan Etienneaj. Ivan Etnayette Nij. Just got a couple of last quick fun facts from Mental Floss to finish up. In an episode of The Simpsons,

which aired on January 23, 989, 92, who Lisa correctly guessed that Washington would beat Buffalo in Super Bowl 26. Cool. Which is pretty fun. I wonder if that was the episode where Home was sort of into the gambling. I reckon it would be, yeah. And I love that episode. I made no sense as a kid, but he was watching all these experts,

and they'd have their lock of the day, and then they'd put a big lock on the, or a big boot and all these sort of gimmicky things. That's so fun, and now I've got to go back and watch that episode because it'll make a lot more sense to me. I'm like, what does this spread? Finally, this one, I've loved this video for a long time. The 1985 Bears, who some called the best team of all time, recorded a hit rap song called Super Bowl Shuffle.

Have you seen it? No. That's so good. It was so good that it was nominated for a Grammy Award for Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal. No way. Is it genuinely good? No, no.

It's like so bad, it's good kind of thing. But they got a Grammy nom for it. But I mean, it's really of its time as well. It's hard to know because it's 85's rap, but I don't think it would have been. But it's fun. It's a fun watch. They're all in there, just sort of doing this sort of side-to-side shovel dance.

And it's just, yeah, old school. That's basically that kind of rap that's my name's little baby, and I'm here to say. That's great. We'll have to post that this week. Yes, definitely. They didn't win the Grammy, unfortunately, losing to Prince and the Revolution's kiss,

which you could, that song possibly has still the test of time a little better than Super Bowl shuffle, which I love. I've got to come clean there. But was the Prince song about what you do with the Vince Lombardi Trophy after you win? Kiss.

That's the end of my report. I mean, there's a million other things I could have gone into, probably. I mean, I didn't even talk about 49ers' own Joe Montana never lost the Super Bowl Hollywood Joe Hollywood Joe

that is that was that his nickname that feels right that just that I believed it if I look up Hollywood Joe please tell me he's there Hollywood Joe after because what was it was Broadway

Broadway oh yeah because it was Joe Namath as well Broadway Joe that's what you said he should be Hollywood Joe he'd be Hollywood Joe now you said so I'm hoping Oh right no doesn't seem to it

Oh Hollywood Joe football No, Joe, it just comes up with Joan Namath. Damn. Sorry to disappoint you there with a joke that was taken seriously. Don't want to undermine everyone's going, she's this guy knows NFL. I don't want to undermine that now. People have been listening for a couple hours ago.

She's, this guy is all over it. Great report. I really, I found that interesting. I don't know too much. I'd never watch the Super Bowl end to end. No. Maybe I will this year. Yeah.

Will that involve getting up at 4 a.m.? No, no, it's sort of, it's, it's, it's, it's, It's a bit later in the morning because they play the day games over there early in the morning here, but their night, twilight night games are at a sort of reasonable morning hour. I will say it's usually on actually when I'm working at the project. They have it on and everyone stops and watches the halftime show. Of course.

That's the interesting bit. Watching the weekend get lost in a maze of mirrors last year, yeah. Yeah, cool. It was sort of, yeah, nothing on Elvis Presto. Did Beyonce do it a few years ago? Yeah, Beyonce's done a couple times. She did it once with Destiny's Child and then another time with others.

And yeah, I think if she didn't come up, it was because pretty much nothing fucked up. I think a lot of the last ones have just been pretty good shows, you know. I think they've got pretty good at doing them now. Do we know who's doing 2022? Yeah, we do. It's like a big lineup of hip-hop stars, I think. Right.

Okay, that's cool. We're coming together and... Dr. Dre, Snoop Dog, Eminem, M&M, Kendrick Clamar. Mary J. Blyde. Wow. That's pretty stacked line up. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, so I imagine that would be a bit of fun.

Just a bit. All right. Well, now it's time of everyone's favorite section of the show where we thank a lot of our great supporters. We normally begin with the fat quote or question section. I think it has a little jingle go somewhere like this. Fat quote or questions. I think he's actually forgotten the ding.

That was weird. We were all Jess and I were looking at Dave, and he just stared back. at us. Very, very strange. He did. He did. He done.

I didn't hear any ding. I think, well, you know, because I think it, because I was talking, because I was singing, because we do it, you know, he comes in at the end of me singing. I actually held it for a comical amount of time. Yeah.

So it's extra funny that you didn't hear that deal. But again for that, ding. I only got, I only got the, you looking at me. It's possible that you don't have that. pitch, that one note that I've just hit. That might be an age thing.

Sorry, Dave. That one note that you nailed. Thank you. Thank you. Never pitchy. Always perfect. Yeah. Well, it is so good to be here.

A little pig on the curtain. A few weeks has gone by since we recorded the rest of this episode. Jess has caught and recovered from a mystery illness. I don't think we'll tell you which one it is. Yeah. See if you can guess. I have a little guess. Place some money on it, I reckon.

Diarria. I had. I caught. I fought as I recovered. And you lost for a while. In the meantime, we've actually, we now know who's playing in the Super Bowl this week. It is between the Bengals and the Rams. My team, the 49ers lost this morning Melbourne time. I haven't gotten over it. How about this, Jess and Dave?

So I ordered a 49ers jersey and hat. about six weeks to go online, it arrived within an hour of us losing today. It was a real brutal, ding-dong. Yeah, I think just with that information, I know the exact day you've had today. And every feeling you've felt. Oh, my God. Have you looked into the returns policy? I'm sticking with them.

And I swap this for a Bengal tiger. I mean, top four really stoked with the season overall. But yeah, it was a brutal way to go down. They were leading going to the last quarter by 10 points. And they were outscored 13 to nil in the last little stretch. It wasn't, couldn't put it together when it counted most of the end. But, you know, hey, it was fun to be involved. And I look forward to next season.

Everybody went out and gave 110%. And full credit to the boys, that's all the matters, you know? No doubt. about that. Jimmy Grappolo was as handsome as ever. He did make a couple of errors, but you know, whatever. He looked at doing it. Yeah. Not his value. So anyway, we're here to thank a few of our great supporters. The first one we do on the fat quote or question section, and you can get involved with this at dogoonpod.com or patreon.com slash dugompod. And the first section we do, the fact quote or question section, I'll read out a few. People who have signed up on

the Sydney-Shyrneberg level. They get to give us a factor quote or question. They can also offer us a brag or suggestion if they want. I think there's maybe a few others that are forgotten as well. And they also get to give themselves a title. First up, from Lisa Viana. We've got Lisa's called themselves the self-appointed overthinkers of answers, maybe.

Okay. Even overthinking that answer, I love it. Very well played. And Lisa is offering us a fact. And, you know, I love a fact. Love a fact. So Lisa writes, I think you three are vaguely familiar with a few facts about North Carolina.

Oh, that actually reminds me about a fact about North Carolina. Their fire engines are actually blue, not red. That's fun. That's whimsical. You keep coming up with so many different ones every time. It's amazing. I don't know how you do it. Yeah.

Got a big book of North Carolina facts. Lisa says, but arguably the funnest fact yet has to do with arrival college to that of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. It is North Carolina State University, otherwise known as NC State, whose mascot is a wolf compared to UNC's Tar Hill or Ram. What's a Tar Heel? A ran, I think. Okay.

I went there for an undergrad and the name of the bus system. So when she said a Tahoe or Ram, she was just giving me a, she was giving me, I was thinking that they had an option. They had two, yeah. What are we feeling today? Which one should we go with today? I'm in a ran mood. So Lisa went there for undergrad and the name of the bus system that goes around campus

is the wolf line. And at night it becomes the werewolf. It's written on the scrolling text along with the root number. That is a fun. Oh, no, sorry. It was a fun fact. How dare you. I agree.

It is a fun fact, but it's my call to make. I look forward to Jess's ruling on the funness of this fact. I say that's fun. I hope it provides Matt and Dave some new NC material. I can't wait for a US tour. Geez, you could wait for the end of that sentence, hopefully. Which will hopefully include a ride on the werewolf. I mean, if we are lucky enough.

I absolutely love it. but I feel like that leaves you nowhere to go on Halloween. Yeah. You're trapped. The spooky werewolf. Oh, okay. Deadly, werewolf. Thank you very much for that one, Lisa.

This next one comes from Zach Dobren, who's got the title, Town Cryer shouting day one, in reference to that specific episode of Do Go On. Day one. That one that I'm sure we all remember which episode it was. Do you remember what episode that was? No.

No, but I do remember you saying it, and it was very, very confusing and funny. Day one. Day one. But a town crier, day one, day one. Hear you, hear you, big bell. Day one. And then everyone's waiting. Oh, that's it.

Oh, he's done. I don't understand the context to you. Much like that. Much like that original moment. What was happening? Zach writes, he's given us a fact as well. He writes, if you Google, who in. invented the popcorn ball while in the USA, the answer given is the Nebraska weather.

According to what's cooking America.net, the popcorn ball supposedly invented itself during the year of the striped weather, which came between the years of the big rain and the great heat, where the weather was both hot and rainy. Sun shone on the cornfield until the corn began to pop, while the rain washed the syrup out of of the sugar cane. The field was on a hill and the cornfield was in a valley. The superfloated down the hill into the popped corn and rolled it into great balls with some of them hundreds of feet high and looked like big tennis balls at the distance. You never see any of them now because the grasshoppers ate them all up in one day on July 21st, 1874. Is this a Dr. Seuss book? Yeah, what's going on?

I could have been your reading of it was quite whimsical and poetic. Well, I think it's like, it's just like, my reading of it is they've come up with a mythical backstory for the popcorn ball. Wow. Do you know what a popcorn ball is? Well, only from the context here. I assume it's a sugary ball of popcorn. I'm assuming that's a real thing that happened. Yeah, yeah, great.

That's cool too. That's my assumption. That's very cool. Here down under, the Great Flood happened and we had LCM bars. were created in their little packets. What did Elsie have stand for? Does anyone know? I don't think it stood for something.

I feel like I've heard this and it was just, they just liked the combination of letters. Yeah, that's right. I think we've discussed this before. It's essentially like a rice crispy treat. Yeah, absolutely right. We've heard it could be little crunchy munchies or light crispy morsels. The truth is, this is from the Kellogg's website.

It actually doesn't stand for anything at all. We wanted to find a name that was catchy and a bit different. So they went for LCM. LCM's just seemed to hit the mark. Surely you just, you come up with something. I call little jettys. Yeah. Little bobbins, that's fun.

Well, you'd come up with something, you'd say that some sort of natural flood slash heat situation happened. Yeah. That's pretty funny. Yeah, I choose to believe popcorn balls real, and it was a momentous day, and there's talk that it could happen again. Much like the coming of Jesus, I believe popcorn balls will return.

We're counting down the days. Yeah. So I think, yeah, so I've just, I've looked up the same thing. Zach cut off the first bit, which is there is a Nebraska legend for the popcorn ball is actually, which I like that he cut that off. Yeah, it is legendary. He didn't realize that I also. It is legendary.

It is legendary. And he submitted it as a fact. Is that right? I mean, his fact was, he was very clever about it. He said, if you Google this question, this is the answer it gives. That's good. That's good. But I was going to say, and that is a fact.

It could be fact quota question, brag, legend or suggestion. Oh, that's true. Honestly, you can tell us anything. Yeah. We really don't care. I really enjoyed that one very much. I love it. I've enjoyed both.

Facts don't, do they not come up that often? I enjoyed both those facts very much. This next one is a brag. Yes. It comes from Paloma Velasquez. Yes, Paloma. Bragg at us. Paloma's got the title of Murder of Dave's Book Cheat Shoutouts.

Ooh. Murder. Murderer. Murderer of Dave's bookcheet shoutouts. Yeah, I was doing them. Every episode then Paloma came along and killed the segment. Wow. So here is Paloma's brag.

Or two brags, what looks at it, two brags. One, as my title suggests, I'm proud to say, I killed the bookcheet Patreon shoutouts. My book was the next to be read and then Dave stopped and has never done them again. So I can only assume that my favourite book was so horrible that Dave chose to retire the entire practice rather than continue with mine. Dave, can you confirm? Absolutely. I just couldn't read out those words and it was unfair to keep going and skip it so I just shut them down. Yeah. The other brag is after two years of steady listening, I've now worked my way through the entire back catalogue of DoGo On. I just wanted to thank you.

guys for the many hours of entertainment you've given me during these past two pandemic field years. There have been some incredible highs, including George Mallory in the 1924 Everest Expedition, which is Paloma's all-time favorite episode. Wow. And a few brutal lows. And they are? I'm so hoping he's about to name some episodes here and just be like, rubbish. A few brutal lows, including listening to.

just as soul breaking or a million pieces during the River Dance episode. And I feel lucky to have been able to listen along the journey. You guys are amazing. Thank you for everything. Again, I mean, you call that a brag, but really it just feels like a flattering. And honestly, anybody who's been with us from the very beginning deserves a medal, the people who, like, you know, we've gotten a lot better at what we do. So if you've discovered us in the last couple of years and then you go,

back and listen to six years ago, which I tried to do on a very long road trip recently, and I had to turn it off because it was insufferable. So if you've done that and you've stuck with us, you, oh my God, we owe you money. Like, don't become a Patreon. You've done the work. So we, so we set off really bad. I mean, I don't necessarily think that we're particularly good now. I think we've gotten better.

But it was, fuck, it took like 20. minutes to get onto the topic. We just interrupted each other the whole time. This was pre-Zoom, you know. It wasn't because of a lag. It was awful. I remember when I came to an episode and I said, we've got to cut down on the pre-show preamble,

and you and Dave both said, fuck you, Matt, fuck you. Is that right? We'll talk for as long as we fucking like a low dog. Is that right? You're a low, sick dog, Matt. Fuck off. Yeah.

You can fuck right off of your dog. That does sound like us. Yes. Matt. Yep. Fuck. Yes. And you were putting on like brass knuckles as you were saying it.

Yeah. Ironically foaming at the mouth. Calling you a dog. And I stand by that. I stand by it. What I'm saying is if you go back to the start, the good old days, that's where we just waffle on. Now we just waffle on at the end.

That's all. We didn't used to do this. It's a much better place to waffle. People wouldn't, if the true believe. We just can keep listening. And the people who really hate the waffle, they can just turn off. Feels like the best of both worlds. Yeah.

I think you were right that fateful day when that conversation went exactly that way. You know, if you Google on Waffle, you'll get an answer. The Nebraska weather. According to what's cooking America.net, the DoGawon Waffle supposedly invented itself during the year of the, all right, You guys were going to let me get on. You read the whole thing, but in that musical tone again. We love Waffle. We'll never stop you.

All right. Thank you, Paloma. Very, very nice. Oh, and just quickly on the book sheet shoutouts, I just didn't do any last year because I stopped and I thought, I wonder if anyone will notice. And literally we got through the whole year without anyone mentioning it. So I thought, I'm doing this for me at this stage.

No one cares. Did you get anybody, would anybody notice if we did it or do go on? But Paloma. I apologize I didn't get to your book. But again, it was awful. I couldn't read it. Insufferable.

And finally from the fact, quote a question this week, Nathan J. Damon, whose title is Dad. Hey, Dad. Hey, Dad. And Dad's question this week is... Yes, Father? I asked this a while ago, but here I go again. How are you?

My answer, not bad. That's good to hear, Nathan. To answer his own question, appreciate that. Nathan, Nathan, Nathan, Nathan. Where to begin, my friend? You know, me personally, on the mend from coronavirus 19 and bravely battled it. I didn't move from the couch for a good 10 days.

But here we are. I walked the dog all by myself today. So I guess anything's possible. is how I'm feeling. I'm feeling anything is possible. Oh, that's nice. Try on top that, you fucking dogs. Go on.

How are you? Who cares? I'm feeling pretty low. You had COVID? Have you had COVID? No, we haven't had COVID. Knock on wood. But he has had diarrhea.

His table is glass. Are you feeling low because I have been away and you missed me? Yes. You lift me up. You are the wind beneath my wings. Yes. you complete me and yeah, it's so good to have you back.

Yeah. Even though, wait, next week's episode, no, you are away for the following couple weeks. Yeah, it's in the future that I am away. Do you even mention it on the podcast? Yeah, surely. We put out a Patreon bonus episode today where Alexei Toliopoulos,

a fantastic friend and film expert filled in for you on our phasing the bar podcast. My podcast, yeah. He filled in for the host, amazingly, and Matt did pronounce you as dead on that. Okay, okay, okay. But I want everyone to know that it was minutes after we'd got a message from you saying, I'm finally feeling better.

So that's what. Starting to. It was a slow, it was a slow, incline. Yeah, no, I'm definitely the one who's the most hard done by. And really, I think, the only one Nathan wanted to hear from. But anyway, Dave, how are you? I'm fine, Nathan. Thanks for asking.

So there you go, Nathan. Matt's pretty low. I'm pretty low, Dad. Dave's fine. And I'm a battler. I'm incredibly brave. And I will survive. Always forging on.

Yeah. Fantastic, Jess. That is great to hear. The Little Ozzy Battler. Somebody wanted? Probably not. Jess. Yes.

And we're now at the point where we, I'd like to thank a few of our other great supporters. You normally come with a bit of a game, normally something to do with the topic. The topic is the Super Bowl. Well, yeah, from weeks ago now. And in between, I've had COVID. So I don't know if I heard of that. Can we name their football team?

Yeah, great. I like that. I think I should also say another bit of big news that's happened since we recorded. I think Tom Brady's retired. Yes. Did we? And it seemed to come out that they denied it. but it seems like maybe it is true, maybe.

I feel like we ended Tom Brady's career. Oh, no. Now, sometimes we mention a topic on this episode and finally get solved. Yeah. Matt spent about 15 minutes talking about how good this guy's career is, how we'll never stop. Remember we just looked at pictures of him for a bit? Yeah.

And we're like, whoa. I wonder if we edited that bit out, Matt. Anyway, but if you go for a long time. We go, whoa. Tom Brady. I like to say. Naming the team maybe, basically. on the city?

Yeah. So the city and then just the mascot, love that. Because I think the team that beat us today, you know, I'm still hurting, but I do think they've got a good grid iron football team name, the Rams.

I just think that's a great two groups of people running at each other name. Yeah. Yeah, it's good. The Aussie version of that, I'm going to, I'll use here today. We have Rams too, don't we? Yeah, we do. I mean, the Australian, but I'll follow my example, I think.

We've got a good native animal that loves to run at other, at things. Oh, okay, yeah. You see if you can guess it. Love to run at things. I don't know. All right. If I can kick us off, I'd love to thank from Kettering in the United States. I think maybe in Maryland.

Maryland. It's Victor Grubbs, which is such a fucking, fucking great. So good, gropes. What about the A-Casters? Because I'm pretty sure James A-Caster is from the English Kettering.

So the Kettering A-Casters. That sounds pretty good. Oh, I don't mind that. Kettering A-Casters. Yeah, I think that's good. Because, I mean, we heard about early in the episode that the Browns are just named after a guy. Yeah, that's right, yeah.

And the 49ers are just named after a number. So the Kettering A-Cast. The gold rush started or whatever. The coach just named up. them after the most recent stand-up special he'd watched, and it was James A-Caster. I like that. Another thing I learned today, the AFC Championship is, which came out of the AFL, you might not have a lot of memory of this, but the trophy they win for the AFC Championship today is

named after the man who started all the go and named the Super Bowl and everything. I'm blanking on his name right now. But anyway. John, was it Johnny Bowl? Johnny Ball. Middle name, soup. Soup. And they were like, the Soup Bowl, that's ridiculous.

Super Bowl. Fantastic. We're Googling it. The Lamar Hunt Trophy. Ah. He was, I'm pretty sure he was the guy whose kid was using the Super Bowl. And he was also the one. Yes.

It was the one who started. He basically couldn't get a team in the NFL, so that's why he, brought together some rich people to make the AFL instead. He was a millionaire. I reckon even a multi-million. Can you have more than one million? Yeah. Can you?

Yeah, this guy did it. How many can you have? I don't know if they've limited it. What? You can have unlimited millions. Unlimited millions. No, that's not true. Dave, is he pulling my leg?

Matt, that's a genuine question. Don't take the piss. I'm genuinely asking how many millions you're allowed to have. Matt's just making up numbers. Oh, Maddie. Not fair. Not fair. Anyway, thank you, Victor, from the Kettering A-Casters.

I'd also love to thank from Brighton in Great Britain, Nick Wilson. Nick Wilson. We know that Nick Cave lives in Brighton in Great Britain, so maybe the red, right hands. Oh, that's great. The Brighton Red, Right Hands. Bit of a mouthful, maybe. Yeah, maybe just right hands, or red hands. Take a pick, right hands or red hands.

As a left hander, I find right hands offensive. So let's go for the brightened red hands. Yeah, and I reckon, a red right hand and you are literally not allowed to throw the ball with your left hand. The coach comes out with a ruler and hits it. You attempt to do that. Very old school. Thank you very much, Nick Wilson of the brighton red hands.

Caught red-handed. That's something as well. All right. And finally for me, I love to thank from Abbotsford, a little closer to home. Abbotsford in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Daniel Headley. The Abbotsford Doggies. Doggies.

Because... Doggies. Because my dog goes to a doggie daycare in Abbotsford. Okay. So it's the Abbotsford Doggies. Fantastic. Never short of a mascot then. Yeah, so many of them.

Love it. Hey, do you want me to think a few beautiful people? I would love for you to thank some people. Because, again, not their value, but somehow we've picked another nine beautiful members. the old hoddies. This one is going to be slightly harder because we've got no location known, possibly deep within the fortress of the moles, but a big shout out nonetheless to Justin Edwards.

Oh, the fortress foxes. Oh, that's fun. They're little mole people wearing fox outfits. That's cute. Because it couldn't be mulled because imagine us having a team where their mascot is a human. We'd be like, yeah. Yeah, like that's true. I was thinking.

They're humans. And famous for their defense in the fortress. Good on your Justin Edwards. And I would also like to thank, you're never going to believe this, guys. But also unknown location, possibly also in the fortress. Shelley Fitness. Well, Shelley Fitness, she plays on the other side of the local Derby in the Fortress of the Nolz. Yeah.

She plays for the fortress Wombats. Oh. Who is the Australian animal that. I was thinking of who likes to run at things. When you said the animal likes run at things, I was like, oh, wombats. But then immediately after I was like, is that a thing I know about wombats? I don't think it's a thing I know either. But how did we both know that?

I say no in inverted comments there. They just feel like they'd run at things. Yeah, they do feel like that. They're little barrels. They do some damage, you know. And they do square poop. They do. I had no idea which animal I would have guessed emu.

And you would have been so. Dump. Such a stupid guest. Picture and an emu playing gridiron. Well, fortunately for me, I didn't say it out loud. So fortunately, I got away with my stupid. You did get away with that one. Stupid guess. I didn't know fitness could be a name.

That's a fantastic name. Shelly Fitness. Obviously, nominative to terminism, Shelly Fitness, super fit. Just works. One of the running backs, I'm sure, Shelley Fitness, or wide receivers. Which one's a fitter?

Let's go wide receiver. And I'd like to thank also from, is this, can this be right from Kappa in Hawaii? Oh. Big Aloha to Dustin Sandane. Dusty. Dusty, Sandane. Dusty rather. If I said Dustin, that's because I didn't want to stuff up your last name.

I put it all in there. I think that is fantastic. I love that one of his names has sand and the other one has dust. Oh, it's good. That's so good. Dusty sand dame. So what are we talking about? The Kappa.

What are we thinking? Lawn chairs. Yes. Kappa Lawn chairs. That is a fierce mascot. Yeah. It just sounds like a grassroots club that, you know, they're like, we're not going to invest in expensive stuff.

Yeah. To watch the game in. It's more about the game. We invest in our players. I think the owner of the Kappa Lawn chairs owns a lawn chair factory. Yeah. And it's like, I'll fund this team, but I need a link in the business somewhere.

Yeah, and I think that makes sense. That's just savvy business. Yeah, that is savvy. Right there. Which is the name of the owner, savvy business. Savvy business. Great name. Again, nominative determinism.

Wow. Come down a savvy business. We have lawn furniture galore. If it's on the floor, it's out the door. I'm a savvy business. Come see me, semi business. And my son, savvy business, junior. Savvy B.

Savvy B. Are we very good at what we do, or are we very bad at it? And if I introduce you to my other son, Risky, I can hear him coming now. He's like, Dad, stop playing that song. No one gets it on seven. I want to be a dancer. I assume for a second that you were going for a risky BJ joke. No, but it was risky business, I apologize.

One thing leads to another. How would it be risky, I suppose, like if it was on cliffside, anyway. Yeah, wow. Can I thank some people as well? BJ BJ, BJ. I would love to thank from Noremba in Queensland, Scott Atkinson. Noremba. The Norembles.

Noremba Bimbles. Okay. Love it. What's the mascot? It's a bimble, you idiots. Right. Are you guys glad I'm back? I haven't spoken to anybody in a couple of weeks.

It doesn't show. All right, I've googled bimble. What I've got? There's walk or travel at a leisurely pace. Perfect. Perfect. Great for this game. No speed required.

Leasily walk or journey. You're telling me that Nirumba bimble isn't the best thing you've ever heard. I love it. You're joking. If you would like me to put into our senses, I can because the dictionary does have options here. On Sunday, we bimbled around Spitfields and Brick Lane, or we were enjoying a pleasant bimble over the rocks. I love that, actually.

Yeah. I started saying bimble. That's delightful. I made that up, but it's a delightful little word. The Noremba bimbables. Noremba bimbled. That is really good. That's fun.

Let's see if we can follow that. Yeah, tough to follow that. Thank you, Scott. But we also want to thank Shauna Mallow from Overland Park. Oh, the Overland Park trombones. Oh, wow, wah, wah, wah. Oh, my God, Matthew. Camp, Kansas, is that KS?

KS? Overland Park, K. I would assume so. I think, yeah. KS, yeah. Overland Park, Kansas, hey? Trombone. Kansas anymore.

But, I mean, that is not true for Shawna Mallow, who is in Kansas anymore. We've had the Wombat thing and we did the trombone thing. Let's see if we can say the same thing for this next one. Mine melded. Because we are pretty melded. Yes. Sorry, Dave, you're not included. Now, thank you to Shawna.

Finally, I would love to thank from Carshelton in that. What's somewhere in great. Britain. I'd love to thank. Surrey, maybe. Surrey, yeah, probably. I would love to thank Thomas Palmer. Thomas Palmer and the, no, that's not a band.

So, the Carthelton, and grenades. Handjob grenades. Wow. That's a great, that's a pretty fun band name, but in this case a great football name. The Cashelton, Handjob Grenades. What comes before a risky BJ, a handjob grenade. Oh, no, they've thrown a handjob. grenade. It goes off

and all the soldiers start giving each other hand jobs. Everyone's reaching around. You know the rules. There was a get-smart movie that was made well after the TV show stopped and I think in it

the big thing they were trying to stop was a nude bomb if I'm remembering that role. And does it strip you off? I think everyone just gets naked when it blows up. That would be horrific. This would be taking it to the next. level. Anyway, let's go

end job grenades. Thank you so much to Thomas, Shauna, Scott, Dusty, Shelley, Justin, Daniel, Nick, and Victor. Legends, one and all. And the last thing we need to do before we wrap up this week's Super Bowl spectacular show is welcome a few people into the Triptitch Club.

Now, Dave, can you explain quickly for new listeners how the Triptage Club works? Well, Matt, these are the people that have been on that shout-out level that we just shouted out to, but they've stayed on that level for or above, would say, for three consecutive years. So we gave them a shout-out probably a couple of years ago and to thank them again and immortalise their names. We welcome them into the Triptitch Club, which is kind of like a little clubhouse. It's a disco, it's a restaurant, it's an eatery, it's a banquet hall, it's everything you want it to be, basically. It's heaven on earth.

And once you're in, you're in for life. You are a life member. And I'm on the door. Well, Matt's on the or reading out the names, I'm shouting you out, I'm giving you a hype up. Jess hipes me up to keep the buzz going. And, yeah, Jess usually comes up with a cocktail to serve at the club. Oh, what's the Super Bowl cocktail? I misheard and everything is soup. Everything I have is soup. The cocktails are actually soup.

And then all the food I've got is just soups. I just got lots and lots of soup. And it's hot in Melbourne. It's too, it's not soup weather. Oh, crap. You properly. Well, is there a gazpacho on offer or? No.

I believe. It's too hot to drink. And you got. Oh. My face is too hot. Hey, it's okay. You've had two weeks in isolation to order this. I just wanted soup.

Hey, you've been, you've been sick. You know, you've, You had soup on the mind. Yeah. Okay. I thought you said soup. I like soup. I'm looking forward to having a soup.

The trip to try. It's kept in a beautiful temperature. Did you get a bit of. Did you get some crusty bread for food? No, I'm just soup. And Dave, you normally book a band. Yeah, actually, I actually didn't miss hear the episode title. And we wanted to get a bit of crossover going with the NFL with the Super Bowl.

And they said to me, Dave, you can have any band the episode. played at the halftime show of the last 50 years. And I said, fantastic. I'll take a look here. And of course, I've booked the one and only University of Arizona Symphonic Marching Band. Yes, I loved him. From Super Bowl 1.

Yes. Oh, that's great. I was really hoping you were going to be able to get Elvis Presto. Yes, sorry. I mean. They would have been my second choice. And I've been watching a few years since then. I watched the Prince Halftime show again.

So good. And I love how on a lot of the performances, they'll still have the marching bands involved. You know, they'll have the big superstar pop stars or rock stars or whatever. But then they'll nearly always seem to incorporate the marching bands as well, which I think is sick. It just, yeah, makes you a great vibe. Yeah, great vibe. But obviously 55 years have gone past and the marching band,

they're all now in their mid-70s plus. Luckily, they don't choose so well anymore. more and we've got a lot of soup. Help yourself, please. Normally it's just for guests, but the band can this week. I've honestly got too much soup. So do us a fame. Have some soup.

All right. So Dave, are you ready for this? We've got nine inductees this week. Let's get a pace going. That's a Super Bowl amount. We've got it. We've got it. All right.

First up from Bothel in Washington, United States. It's Jesse Wheeler. Jesse Wheeler. and dealer. Yeah. From Perth in Western Australia, it's Darcy Jacobson. Darcy, more like classy Jacobson. Yes, oh, la-da-da, good sir.

From Chico in California, United States, it's Juan and Sierra Uriate. Oh, number Juan. Yes. You are my number Juan. Yes, that's so good. From Wilmington in California, United States, it's, I'm not fine, but I'll be okay.

Oh, more like you're going to be the best person in the club tonight. From Marblehead in Massachusetts, I reckon, United States. It is John Raines. Oh, make it rains. Yeah, make it rains good times. Yeah. From Kaleen in the Australian Capital Territory, it's Alison Winian. Yeah.

Keep on winning. Yes, yes. And if it was whining, whining and dining. Wine and diamond. From Preston in Victoria, Australia. It's Alice. Oh, we're not going to have Amelis in the palace. We're going to have Alice in the palace.

Yeah, come on in. My Queen. From London in Great Britain, it's Amy Louise Casey. Oh, a person so nice. They named them three times. Amy Louise Casey. Yes. Good switcheroo there, yes.

And finally, from Dudley in Great Britain, it's Mark Harris. Mark Harris, not from Dudley, but he's my Budley. Yes, oh my God. And he's a studley. Yes. Yeah. Thank you so much to Mark, Amy, Alice, Allison, John, I'm not fine. Juan and Sierra Darcy and Jesse, welcome into the club.

Make yourselves at home. Get ready for that marching band entertainment. Enjoy that marching band. Enjoy that soup. Grab yourself a soup. Just let it settle. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

I miss it. We all made mistakes. I just had some. I just really burnt my tongue. I literally said it's way too. I can't help myself. That brings us to the end of the episode. We've got a lot of soup to eat, so we should really get going.

Jess, anything we need to tell everyone before we boot this baby home? Just that we love them, that I could not have survived COVID-19 without them. And then if they want to get in touch with us, they can do so. Do Go OnPod at gmail.com. You can find us on all social medias at Do Go OnPod or on our website. Do GoonPod.com. Fantastic. Let us bring us to the end of the episode.

episode. Jess, it's been great to see you again. And unfortunately, I will have to ban you from the next two episodes from what you did with the soup. That was really, you know, unthinkable what you did. Unprofessional. No, you're right. That's fair enough.

I will take a paid two weeks sabbatical. Yeah, yeah, okay. Well, no one does anything about paid, but all right. So Matt and I'll be back next week. Just well, think about what you did. Until then, I'll say thank you so much. and goodbye. Later.

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