Two In The Think Tank - 33 - The Titanic!

Episode Date: June 8, 2016

This episode is a long one... you could say it's a TITANIC episodes! (I'm so sorry) Jess delves into the hat this week to find this mammoth topic about the unsinkable ship... spoiler alert: it sunk. Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now is the time. Mycomputercareer.edu. Hello and welcome to do go on my name is Dave Warnocky. This is the podcast that you're listening to and I'm here with rather sprightly Jess Perkins. Hello day. Hello you've already admitted you're quite hyperactive. And I always though. But don't worry we've got someone that will counteract that your positive vibes with possibly Vibes of death it is our third mate here mr. Matt Stewart's hello Matt. Does that mean you can't yourself as a mate? Yeah, I'm first mate. Oh your first mate. Get your mind. This is a ship This is a very fragile This was a ship you'd be the seasick guy would you not you are very under the weather?

I fell the cartoon out my face, it'd be green. No. With the envy of the first mate. Of the first mate, yes. And for the listener's mad, it's not feeling very well this week, but you have come to the podcast recording anyway, and we appreciate that a lot, Matt. And we don't, I mean, you know,

of course give him a little bit of sympathy, but not too much, it's self-inflicted. All right, yeah, now we'll come. Are you, that was making it sound like? Yeah, like it's not well. Like what Trooper is here with the flow. He's not, he's hung over, he's got a bucket next to him and getting ill.

That's too many of them in the studio. It happens, I'm leaving it in. Yeah, in the studio. I'd recommend taking it out. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh, you'll be cleaning it out. No, it'll be your own binder. We'll leave it there for two weeks.

So what did you do last night, Matt? I went to the footy. And your team won. So you did? Yes. They won, which is good. Is that why you started drinking a lot more? Or if you lost, would you have drunk this much drinking?

Tartan, I probably either way, I guess. Now, probably celebratory drinks. I mean, you're either celebrating. Well, commiserating. Or commiserating. Drink to, some drink to remember, some drink to forget. And what did you do? Is that from, like, you two or something?

Nah, who's Captain America? Captain America, okay. Oh, bono, one of the two. One of the two? I call him Captain America. So, but was it worth the amount? That's the question. Was it worth it?

That's the question this way. Let's get the podcast reborn. No, definitely not. Yeah, not right now. But I think in another couple of days, you'll be able to look back on your weekend and be like, that was a fun night. The night that I remember was a lot of fun. But yeah, the last few hours hours not there in my brain oh god

and Jess how was your night? I ate full-of-all chips and hummus oh full-of-all chips yeah so like double chickpea baby double chickpea oh yeah and then I went to I went a bit I had had a glass of wine oh that, that sounds so good. I went to bed. I thought that sounds so good, doesn't it? It was pretty, I'm really, like, I'm in that peak party age, I think, you know. I mean, my mid-twenties, every weekend, baby, every weekend, it's falafel chips, it's homies as wine, it's bed. They're all right. That does sound like a really great set of things. It's nice and cozy.

It's like a great lifestyle. It's cozy. Cause it was cold, like, I don't like the cold, I get a little cozy, put them a little PJ pants that have snowflakes on them, because I'm a cutie pants. Do you wear them to bed? Yeah, they're pajamas. I can't wear pants long pants. It's not you put them on just for the evening.

When you're around that house, when you get to bed, take the pants off, because my legs get hot. Yeah, and I'm a cold sleep. I'm really cold in my sleep, so I do wear clothes. Now we have to go around the table and say what we wear to bed. Matt? Uh, it depends. Nothing. Nothing. Just to lie. Just to lie. Just wear those old men. What happens?

We're old men. I'd be like, normally I'm normally in pretty warm in bed under the calvary, so I don't wear a lot. Nice. It's a very personal question, Dave. I just love the little picture of our lives that the listener can paint from the four or five minutes at the start of every episode. They can sort of put this together and get a profile.

We had it at someone comment on our logo, so we post the episode on Facebook every week. The logo comes up via the link and someone just comments, which one of you is day? And I wrote back, I'm the bottom one in the logo. They were just wrote back, thanks. Like, why they wanna know which one is like, do they like me? Do they, am I the one they hate? Or the one?

Yeah, it's interesting, because if they've ever listened, I mean, you're always talked about as the little guy and I'm the bearded guy. I mean, it's relatively clear. And then they were looking at listened, I mean, you're always talked about as the little guy and I'm the bearded guy. I mean, it's relatively clear. And then they were looking at Jess and I going, which one's the little guy? Oh, maybe it was Jess though, I think. Yeah, the good one. Which one of you was that?

It just found, in my head, it's a standard threatening. Which one's Dave? Yeah, I think they've asked twice as well. Really? They're trying to track you down. Yeah, I think they've asked twice as well. Really? Well, they're trying to track you down. Yeah, not sure. But also, like, they could have just looked up Dave Warnocky and because you have a comedian page with photos of you on it. There are a heap of Dave Warnocky's about it. Have you Googled that?

My website comes up, DaveWarnocky.com. There's a few pictures on there and none of Jess, so. Which is weird. Which is weird. It's a strange one. It's a huge oversight on your part. But I mean, if you don't want fans fair enough. It's a strange one. It's a huge oversight on your part, but... Yeah, no. I mean, if you don't want fans fair enough.

I don't want traffic. I want to remain anonymous as I can, but also still have the domain Dave Warnocky. Of course, of course. The dream. Anyway, thanks to that guy for listening. No, thank you very much. I don't believe. When I stalked him on Facebook as sort of an attack to make sure he wasn't trying to come after me. He was listening in Pakistan. How cool is that? Amazing. So hello to our listening Pakistan and anyone else who possibly is in there. I'd love it if you are seeing in a different country to tweet us or

it because we don't know the stats. We just get the overall down as we don't know where you're from. Yeah, let us know where you're from. That'd be really cool. I'd like to know if you're in Finland or something. We've had a few Americans getting contact with Australia, which is really nice. Like, if you're in Finland or something. We've had a few Americans getting contact with Australia, which is really nice. Yeah. I think we've got... Some Australians.

Lots of Australians, mostly our friends. Oh, come on. There was also that other guy. Ha, ha, ha. Mase those friends, yeah, you're right. And, yeah, so, yeah, Twinnitus, I've just known where you're from, that'd be really cool, even on our Facebook page too.

That'd be nice. That would be cool. But, I digress, because we must get into this report, get it over and done with Port for poor old Matthew and the corner there. Okay, Jess, it is your turn to do a report on a topic and I believe that you have promised a dip into the hat of listeners suggested topics.

I have, I have dipped into the hat this time and I have chosen one that was suggested by Kormak, so who's at Aromatic Herbs on the Twitter. Big shout out to Aromatic Herbs. I'm glad you've embraced the hat, finally Jess. I love that hat. It's taken quite a while. No, no, no, I've-

Have you had it before? I have. Which one of yours was from the hat? No, I can't remember. Med Kelly, was that the hat? Maybe. Oh, there's been a couple that have, I've looked at the hat suggestions and then gone,

and it's reminded me of something else. I've already written down myself. The oven's on. Yeah. Exactly. So I've kind of half-hatted. This is a full hat. Full hat.

Right, so the call. I'm excited for a full hat episode from Jess. Jess is a full hat debut. The question I have for you is what was the worst disaster of the 20th century? Well, I've already covered Chernobyl. Hmm, worst disaster of the 80s. Oh, I've done Chernobyl as well. Yeah, Chernobyl.

Or Quartz. Oh, no. You forget that you sat there for an hour and a half while I talked about how a nuclear reactor works. What did you just think you had a fresh new take on it? It's not new take. I've got a new Cleary actor works. What did you just think you had a fresh new take on it? Not new take. I've got new info. It's not Chernobyl. Just regard everything you thought you knew about Chernobyl,

because I've got the inside gossip. How about... Second world war two. Second world war two. Jinx. Oh no, I can't talk. Personal Jinx. Is that? no, I can't talk. Personal Jinks.

Is that? Yeah, I don't remember what personal Jinks are. That would be a good report. Who created Jinks, Jinks, personal Jinks? I regret saying worst disaster because it's not quite in the scale of a world war, but it was a disaster. Okay, um, World War One. Early, really.

Not in the scale of a world war. But before World War One, early. So, like, give us a year. Was it Australia federating? It was not a year. I know you're very anti-Australia federating. It was not that. Was it that time?

No, that wasn't the 20th century. The time that Super Bowl clothing malfunctioned. Oh, Nipple-Ga-Exit. The Nipple came out, yeah, was it that? So we're talking about that. Yeah, that was in 1900. In the early 1900s. On the scale of Nipple Gate to World War II, yeah was it that? So we're talking about that. Yeah that was in 19 early 1900s. On the scale of Nipple Gate to World War II where does it sit?

Probably close at a World War II. Okay was it the Hindenburg? Yes that's a good one. That is a good one. I'll print that down from my own statistic. I'll print that down later. No okay we're talking 1912 if that rings any bell. It actually does it yes is that when your great-grandparents were both born Yeah, we have the same life we do the same. Okay, you think it was 12 because I remember the 100th anniversary of this event that I'm imagining oh was it in 2012 yes knew it Doctor stage is really working. Doctor stage. That's not a thing. It's Dr. Colody your idea Is it the thinking of the RMS Titanic? It is the Titanic very good Why did you know that year off the top of your head?

Because I remember the hundred year anniversary. Oh, you just just explain. I've never listened when you speak Yeah, and some are about as well. We're celebrating the 104th anniversary, one of the major ones. Of course, a milestone. A big milestone, and if you lived to 104th, that is quite a milestone. Yeah. No, but you know I like rounded numbers, so I would not be celebrating my 104th birthday as enthusiastically as my 100th or 100th and the fifth. And not just because you were bedridden.

Yeah, hey, you assume, if I make it to 104, I'll be a Spritly 104 year old. Don't you reckon? Yeah, I can imagine you would have 104. Thank you, I guess. I don't know. I reckon you'll definitely die on a dance floor. I have 107, so that's okay. Yeah.

You'll dance all the way to the grave. That's so lovely. I'm assuming you made it a nice way. Add a... Add a... Add a... Add a strangers by midsphere. Add a strangers by midsphere.

Why are you there, Jess? She's 107. Let her go. All right, well, from that, perspective... Thanks for breaking me out of that weird. Yeah, that was... Add a... That was happening. Back to the tragedy of the Titanic, Matthew, please.

Yes. Where I believe more than one person died. A few more, yeah, a few more. What's your knowledge of the Titanic? Was it mostly from the film Titanic? From the film by that guy who made the film with the blue people. James Cameron. He made the film with the one.

The blue people. Matt's firing on all cylinders today. He thinks James Cameron directed smurfs Smurfs to back in the smurfs This time it's smurthonol No, I got it great. I just thought it was so good that I was like I don't care. I'm saying this. I'm saying it It's time it's smurfing all that's brilliant. That's a hashtag saying it. It's time it's smurfing all. That's brilliant. That's the hashtag, hashtag.

I have seen it. It's time it's smurfing all. I have seen the James Cameron movie, but I've also been in the past a little obsessed with this topic. Really? Yeah. Really? It's a little bit very interesting.

Okay, well maybe you'll be able to bump in with some facts as I go along. Will there be fun facts in this episode? Look, I need not fun. Is there any mention of Clive Palmer? Oh, because he wanted to build one. He wanted to build the model. Full scale. Oh, that really, that was a poor water stretch that was. All right, so for overseas listeners, Clive Palmer, I just imagined a big fat guy. He's an eccentric billionaire, pretty much bought his way into the Australian Senate, the Al Parliament here, became a politician, now we've decided to give that up.

But thankfully, he floated the idea of one building a giant park with dinosaurs, our Jurassic Park, and two, building a life-size replica of the Titanic. He floated that idea. I thought you intended that pan because it was fantastic. Yes. Unfortunately, that idea hit NLSberg. No, not even. Too soon.

104 years is not enough. Not enough, come on. Have some respect. Have some respect for the dead. I'm not sure if we always do. I'm not sure if we're the bucket. Like we always do on the bucket. That's rich coming from you.

Okay, so let's uh... Well let's go, let's go back. The year, the year was 1909, I don't know, well that's when they started to build it. But anyway, before that, um, so the name Titanic, you know what the word Titanic means Matt? It means, oh.

It means a big disaster. It just means big, it just means big. It's gigantic. Titanic's just another it's still a word. It's still a word. It was Titanic. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think a noun means disaster. Yeah, I think a little bit. Yeah, but Titanic just means it's gigantic as well. Yeah. And it was built in Belfast in Ireland. So if you go to Ireland you can get like shirts, it's like it was fine when it left here. Really? Classic, that's very good. So patrullizing, very good. Well done, bellfast. Titanic was the second of three of these big ocean liners that were built by the British shipping company White Starline. And the first was the RMS Olympic and the third was the HMHS

Britannic and HMHS stands for his Majesty's Hospital ship. Just a little fun fact for you. RMS, so Titanic was the Royal Mail Ship. There's some facts, fun facts about that too. the male element of it. Do you mean in children first, right, which is interesting for a male ship? I'll pay that, I will. No, I don't though, don't encourage him. So the WIde Starline had this increasing challenge from one of their, or a couple of their rivals.

So there was Kunad, which was another UK shipping company, and they'd recently launched a couple of their rivals. So there was Kuhnard, which was another UK shipping company, and they had recently launched a couple of other really big ships, and they were the fastest passenger ships then in service. And there was also a couple of German lines that were sort of their rivals. And White Star lines chairman, Jay Bruce Ismay, preferred to compete on size rather than speed. So he proposed to commission a new class of liners that would be larger than anything that had ever gone before, as well as being the last word in comfort and luxury. Oh.

So it wasn't about speed? That's luxury, I think the last word in comfort and luxury. Oh, I doubt that one. Okay, he's fine. I call it luxury. What? And it's a boat. That was the pitch meeting.

It's a luxury boat. Oh, man. How fast does it go? Pretty slow. Pretty slow, but it's luxurious. It's luxurious. Put me in for 20 million. Yeah.

Right, so he was like, these are going to be fancy fucking bugs. It's nice. Real fancy. Now they were constructed in Belfast by the shipbuilders Harland and Wolf, who they had a long established relationship with White Starline, dating back to like the 1800s, 1867, to be precise. I'm out.

I know you would think it. What year though? To cut him off, just see what's about to speak what year anyway I was not listening as I way talked to me yeah okay good I could see your eyes glaze right over I was thinking of the bucket yeah I am so into 1867 I've never heard about a year me either I'm excited I love it now Harland and Wolf were given a lot of creative license in designing the ships for white Starline now the usual creative license Harland will give a lot of creative license in designing the ships for White Star Line.

Now the usual... Creative license, Harland, but we told you it was a boat. You've built a cricket pitch. And now you like cricket. I know it's a luxurious cricket pitch, but again, I did request a boat. So if you want them to go back... I call it a boat. Want to come and play on my boat?

Oh, yeah, I love cricket alright. That sounds like a weird pick up line. Hey, wanna come and play on my boat? What's the boat in that, sorry? It's a boat. Okay. Just a wealthy guy with a yacht. Right.

And he's got a chess board set up. Ooh. Hey baby, wanna come and play on my boat? No, thank you. It's my response. Oh, thank you. Is my response? He's all lonely because he just wants someone to play chess with. Anywho! So the usual approach was that White Star would sort of sketch out a general concept. Maybe like this is sort of what we want and then Harland and Malf would take that away

and turn it into a ship design. And cost was relatively low on their agenda. They were kind of like... Whatever a cost. They're no expense. Yeah, do what you gotta do to make it a top of notch. Not a telly. No, there was that accent. So how did the Italian say a top notch?

A top of notch. A CC. It's a lot of hand gestures, which is hard to convey on a podcast, which is a audio, isn't it? Yeah. That's a very good point. Do you mind how to say do go on Italian? I would right now. I don't know either. If you do it just style, you just put...

Oh, at the start. I do it go on! Oh, there it is. I don't know what she said, but it sounded good. Bellissimo. Va bene. Allora. So. Stacosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicosicos there a lot. So, oh, that cozy cozy cozy. Yeah, you're gonna do the head just with cozy cozy. So they put their leading designers to work and they were designing away as they do. So this was for like all three ships. So we're gonna have three big motherfuckers. So three so they decided not they weren't just gonna build one big one and see how it goes.

They were like let's do three big ones. Having three and they had big plans for them too, which I will talk about as well. So the design was overseen by Lord Peary, a director of both Harland and Wolf and White Star line. So he was kind of... Things in both lines. Exactly, I was gonna say those exact words. Get out of my head.

Get out of my mind. What am I thinking? What am I thinking? I'm thinking. I'm thinking. I'm thinking of the big part, man. Okay, think you can have the given number what is it? Hi, is it pie 3.14159? No Is it 1914? No six anyway Fuck only one thousand nine hundred eight off

God where close that's a fast math. I should have probably specified a number from 10. Get me on. Okay, all right number 4 into 10. Ah see the parameters. Seven. Four. Damn it. I was thinking seven or four. All right, I'm thinking of a between one and 10, but I won't tell you what it is in the list and we'll get some they'll never know. Oh, I don't like it. Tell him what is it? What is it? Is it three? It was nine. Damn it. We're not good at it. Which is three squared. Yeah.

Three, three. You were more right if anything. And like, three, six, nine. There's three of us. Synergy. That's what this podcast is all about. Mathematical Synergy. Please do go on.

Thank you. Yeah, so he had, that guy had, Lord Peer, he had fingers in both pies. There was also Naval architect Thomas Andrews, who was a managing director of Highland and Wolves Design department. Remember that name, Thomas Andrews? That may come back later. Mr. Thomas Andrews. Thomas Andrews. Is going on the pad. Then there was also Edward Wilding, who was Andrews deputy and responsible for calculating the ship's design, stability and trim.

Are we making note of these people because they're going to get in a lot of trouble later because it's because it's like yeah, they're the guy who designed everything. Oh, hang on. Noble prizes, all of them. Noble prizes. And noble prize for you, sir. And a noble prize for you. Good day.

No, it's very close to a Nobel prize, but it's not quite as good. Thomas Andrews in particular, he comes around again later. There was also Alexandra Carlisle, he was the shipyard's chief draftsman and general manager, and his responsibilities also included the decorations, equipment and all general arrangements, including the implementation of an efficient lifeboat-davit design. Oh, so he's the lifeboat design. So the lifeboat, not so much designing lifeboats, I think they had boats covered, they know how to make a boat at the boat. We can make a ship that's 300 meters long, but a

small one that floats, no idea. What do I start? What do I do? How do I cut off 299 meters of this boat? I don't know. That's what they ended up doing that. They just they just chopped up. They made huge boat still Every lifeboat started as a ship They just couldn't figure it out. No, it wasn't so much about the actual lifeboats and cells but the devets are like the Cranks and stuff to lower the okay, that was what that was kind of his thing Cranks. Great word.

Thank you. So on the 29th of July, in 1908, Harlander moved, presented the drawings to J. Bruce Ismay and other white Starline executives. And they were approved in, he signed three letters of agreement two days later, authorizing the start of construction. So this was further three as well.

So, oh no, sorry. At this point the first ship which was which was later to become Olympic, it was called Olympic, it didn't have a name yet but it was referred to simply as number 400 as it was Harland and Wolves 400th hull and Titanic was based on a revised version of the same design and it was given the number 401. Right so they're very similar ships. Yeah, they are very similar. Yeah, just revised, but yeah, very, very similar. Now, how big was the boat, do you know? I think my guess was just then was about 300 meters. It was 269 meters. Sorry. Okay, well, you're just being a bit silly, aren't you? I don't know. 269.06 if we're being specific. What if you think about that how big that is it's quite big? That's quite big. 269 meters. Though I used to do like, I used to do the 100 meter sprints at school. Do that two and a half times

and you're still on the same boat. Yeah but that it's not that big. You know, it's not going to take you a full day to walk around at a couple of times, you know? The big boats these days are bigger, aren't they? Like QE2 and stuff. Well, there's like way bigger oil tankers. Right. Sure, yeah. But the luxury ones are? I don't know. Alright, so I just looked up the Queen Elizabeth II, the QE II, and that is 293 meters.

Right. It's funny because I was sort of thought about the Titanic as being like too big, like that was their problem, but it wasn't necessarily the problem, it was just too big. It was just... But for the time, it's one of the biggest in the world. Yeah, it's still like, it's huge. And it's, and it, no, it wasn't a problem of size and it wasn't even really, it wasn't a problem of structure or anything like that.

This is one of those situations, kind of like when we were talking about Chernobyl, where it was just a series of bad decisions that kept happening that led to not good, you know, like, but, but structurally it was fine and, yeah, it was big and it was very nice it was a nice boat looked really good on the movie yeah bullrooms and shit I believe there were quite accurate in the movie of the interior yeah so like that main staircase bitters yeah exactly right actually what the grand staircase yeah I believe there's no real photos exist of the actual staircase they went off off the plan of it for the movie. And now people like refer to James Cameron's one as like the definitive because. Wow, that's impressive.

Even though he's got smashed up as well in the filming. Didn't have they, because you can go, I mean, you might go into this. Can you, can you go visit the Titanic still? Is it still down there? Still down there. Yeah. So you could go and have a look at the staircase kind of, in its current state.

No, it got smashed the pieces. Really? At this wood, so wood doesn't do well and are 100 years of wood. Right. And it's completely. It's still in the freshness. Sadly, it does not.

Well, I've made a big mistake because I've brought a sandwich for later, in a bucket of water. LAUGHTER With the lid on, and I thought that was meant to keep in the goodness. A wooden box, though? And it was a wooden box.

Oh, no, then you find. Yeah, okay, great. No, you find. That's a speculation. But for the way it's jumping your head here to the disaster, let's all stay in the full ignorance of 19, whatever. Let's say this is a big deal, it's a big ship, it's beautiful, and it costs around $7.5 million to build. That's back then as well.

Which is a lot of care. In today's money, that is nine and a half million. So you can like, if that helps you understand how much it was. That's a pretty good, yeah, it's pretty good, thank you. Thank God that was here. So. Just to inflate for us. I will talk a little bit about it

so all three of these Olympic class ships had 10 decks. 10 that's a lot. So it's got like it's got layers basically. The boat has layers. Oh like an onion. Exactly. Right so just a little bit of a little bit of what H is so you've got the boat deck this is from top to bottom. I like the boat deck that's how it's. That sounds ship. It sounds ship based. What do you think what do you think would be stored on the boat deck? Do they have a boat on the left? Correct yeah they do. So they sort of lined the sides of the deck except in the first class area of the boat deck where there was a gap so that the view would not be spoiled. Oh, of course. Why would you worry about a bloody...

You wouldn't want to ruin your view of like nothing but ocean for 6,000 miles in a radius around you. So there was then the A deck, also called the Promenade Deck and that extended along the entire length of the ship. It was reserved exclusively for first class passengers. It had first class cabins, the lounge, smoke room, reading and writing rooms, fancy. That's where you guys would have been. Yeah, that you were after. At least, up on East.

We would be there. We would definitely be on the first class. You dig head. Then we have the B deck or the bridge deck. Kind of less interesting. It's just where it's like the upper most Kind of less interesting. It's just where, it's like the uppermost level of the hull. There's a lot of terms in here that I don't understand. I'm just letting you know that now, so don't ask any questions. Google it yourselves.

So the hull is like the outside of the ship? Yeah, I know. Next is B-deck or the bridge deck. So this is where there was more first class passenger accommodation and there was also six palatial state rooms which were like like private cabinets. Personators love the word palatial. Palatial right. They had their own private little promenades and on Titanic they also had an alacart restaurant and the cafe Parisien which provided luxury dining facilities to first class passengers. That means cafe Paris.

Ah! Cafe means cafe. Very good. Hahaha. Cafe, cafe. Ah, Parisien. Paris, Paris and yeah. Okay.

And there was seat. Good, sorry. Oh my god. I'm going to move the microwave. No, I liked it. That was very funny though. Cafe, it's cafe, so don't lose confidence. Shut up.

We laughed at your joke. I just keep talking over your chest. But you would do every time, so it was different. This time you have a headache, that's the only difference. C-Dec was a shelter deck. Nothing, all that interesting happening there by the sound. Does it put a bit of sheltering? Then we had the D deck.

Oh, is this not first class anymore? Well, not really. It kind of had... Well, actually, yeah, it's interesting because it was kind of split, because it sort of... It was... had these three large public rooms, so it had the first class reception room, a first class dining saloon, and the second class dining saloon. So it's weird how they break things up up because even as you move further down, there's still, like, first-class accommodation further down, but there's also, like, a second and third-class.

Right, so first-class have just stuff everywhere. Yeah, they're kind of mixed up a little bit. That's fine. But there's no second or third people at the top. That's really the... Exactly, right? Yeah, exactly, right. And on the D-dec, there was still this open space provided for the third class passengers.

Which I like to imagine just like a paddock, you know, when they say open space, it's just like... Free right. It's just an empty room like off you go. It's like they had like the jail. Occupied themselves. What do they call the jail yard, whatever. A jail yard?

It's like what do they call the jail yard? Probably a jail yard. Jail yard. Jard. Jard. Jard. Another fine contribution. Another, speaking from experience there, the many times man has been to jail. It's about that time in the jail yard.

Yeah, so boys will be out in the jail yard if you need me. Get you later. Because you can just roam freely. Yeah, free range jail. What did you get the jail for? I picked up a dog against its will. The dog harassed her. Put me down. I kicked out my dog. I kicked his will. It wiggled around a a lot of it looked very uncomfortable. Barked at me. Yeah, and unfortunately there was a copper watching from across the road. Slow down here, the fat police.

It was his dog. I'd also broken into his house. I admitted his wife. But just afterwards, I was dancing on the corpse. I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering what he's doing.

I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering what he's doing. I'm just wondering of this. Guys, I've got a feeling that that is a true story. Well thank you for joining us from Prison Met. No worries.

Prison, that was Prison Talk with Matt Stewart. So we're on the D deck in Matt's jail yard. He's definitely dug against its will. He was not happy. He was not happy. He was not happy. Furious, though, I think. Did you have to pay damages as well? Yeah.

The dog is living a pretty comfortable life, though. But did the dog name quite a bit of therapy, though? Yeah, I know, doubt. I mean, sure, the dog is living in luxury now, but I mean, that mental scarring, no money can take that away. Well, speaking of luxury living and mental scarring, back to the time. What a combo, that's actually very true. A lot of rich people are about to get scarred forever.

Yeah, or dead, which is the same. You know, they're still scarred forever if they did, because you did forever. True. Sorry. It's like a behind the scenes prison podcast, a philosophy podcast. We really cover it all here at Degoon. So under the D deck, we've got the E deck.

Is it getting shitter and shitter? Kind of, yeah. No, we're not quite shit yet. It's still okay. Because this is... That's five of, you said 10, there's only fifth. I know, so there's, this is sort of predominantly used for accommodation, but it's for all three classes.

Plus there's births for cooks, semen, stewards, and coal trimmers. You know, laugh at semen. I can say that you wanted to. But I did you see that I pulled it together and that I was really proud of myself and now I've acknowledged it anyway. Yes. They're just meant on the sea.

It's got nothing else, guys. Anywho. I want to hear more about the cold trim. Cold trim is they're just the ones who shovel in some coal. That's not that exciting. I looked it up in case it was something interesting, but it's just they just shovel the coal in. Well that seems like a horrible job. Yeah, I don't think it'd be fun.

Then there was F-Dec. F-Dec. That's fun to say. Was it F-A-Fuck is a bad? Nah, it's also called the Middle Dec. Directing a whole level devoted to fucking would be bad. Come on, it's a fucked-up. This is the fun-fucking-dec. Well, we're going to the fucked-up. I think earlier today I was, you know what, my party plan for today, I'm going to head down to the pool and then I think I might, I think earlier today, I was, you know what, what's your plan for today?

I'm gonna head down to the pool, then I might go to Cafe Prussian for some brunch, and then I'm gonna head to fuck deck for a couple hours. What are you gonna do? See you there. Fuck deck, what's that mean in French? Yeah, fuck deck. Oh, fuck deck.

All right. Fuck means fuck. Anyway, so on F deck, that was mostly a combination for second and third class passengers. The third class dining saloon was there and there was the swimming pool and the Turkish bath. Oh, now you're talking. They got like a little sauna. And has everyone got access to this?

I think that's mostly for first class passengers. Oh, okay, right. In fact, I think it is. It's to talk to the second and third class passengers. Yeah, that it's just sitting right there. That's pretty shitty. GDEC, It's to tall to the second, third class. Yeah, that it's just sitting right there. That's pretty shitty. G-deck, we're getting right to the bottom now. So G-deck was the lowest complete deck

so that carried passengers. So it had lowest port holes that were just above the water line. This was also where the squash court was located, along with the traveling post office. That was the whole point of the ship. Because they were a mail ship. So they had a post office where letters and parcels were sorted ready for delivery when the ship docked.

I want to talk more about the Scorsicode because that sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah, they've got so much. I wouldn't talk too about the things that they have on the ship because it's pretty fancy. And then below that it was mostly just obviously storage and turbines and engines and the boring stuff underneath that. So the passenger facilities aboard Titanic aimed to meet the highest standard of luxury. So they're like, basically, I think their idea was that instead of it being like other passenger line, as this one was the idea that it would feel like a floating hotel rather than a ship.

Right, so it was a holiday on the way to your holiday or your new life. That's a great way, pretty absolutely, because yeah, a lot of people were leaving to go start a new life in America. So, yeah, they were taking everything with them. Other people, it was like a holiday. So yeah, their idea was that it was like a floating hotel. And so, it had a variety of decorative styles which sort of ranged from Renaissance mat. I know you're a big Renaissance man. I'm a Renaissance man. You love it. Jack of all trades. To Victorian. Dave, I know you're really more Victorian style kind of guy.

Oh, sorry, into Victorian. Actually, I met more into art deco which is just after this period but in any way. Okay. All right mate. I'm a bit into Baroque. Is there any Baroque on board? Sounds like flying all taste? No, no, sorry about that. But, you know. But there is a Turkish bath. There's a Turkish bath.

So, you got that. Which is someone described as a delight, a Turkish delight. Now if you were on a cruise, what kind of facilities would you like to have available to you? If I were like a modern cruise or 1912 cruise. Well, bed. Okay, good.

Bath. Table. Bedside table. Cricket pitch. Cricket pitch. I like a clock radio. Okay. Would you like a light?

Take it or leave it. Okay. Would you like a light? I'll take it away. Okay. Have you just celebrated in the day? Mattress of the bed. Sure. Pillows. Chates. I mean, is that implied?

Oh, yeah. I was going to ask, but yeah. I assumed it was implied, but I haven't filled out on my form, and now I'm looking like a mattressless. I reckon some sort of iceberg-proofed hull. Interesting. Interesting requirement. I'm afraid we can do nine out of 10 of those hell. Interesting, interesting requirement. I'm afraid we can do nine out of ten of those for you, Matt.

I'd like some edgy comedy. Again, I don't think they had a lot of entertainment. Yeah, which is interesting. Do you play squash? Yeah, well, that's squash. I've squashed before. I'm happy to squash again. Okay.

So, well, I hope you'd be happy with these facilities because passengers could use an on board telephone system. Oh, on board, much better than those other ships. Off board. We had them out in the water. Yeah, they did get a dive in. You could jump on the old blower. Yeah, they had a phone system.

There was also a lending library where you could borrow some books, which is just a library really isn't it? But I think rather than you know a buying library or just a room. Yeah it was a library. They had a large barbershop. The first class section had a swimming pool gymnasium, a squash court, Turkish bath, an electric bath which I googled and that's basically a tanning bed. So they called it an electric bath? Electric bath, but there's no water. No, no, no, but they like tanning beds. They were early models of tanning beds. Just kind of cool.

I do utilize a lot of these things, Erichin. Erichin, what would you, a squash court, take this bath, you go for a bit of a sauna. I'd go for a get of the barber, have a swim. Put the gym. Yeah, all that stuff sounds great. Sounds pretty good. I'm into it.

I'd go on that. Yeah. Sounds really great, especially if you're in this first class area. Yeah, first class sounds pretty good. Second class was still not bad, third class. They weren't, like, the third class accommodation on the Titanic, they weren't as luxury as first class, obviously, but even so, they were so much better than on many other ships of the time, like the third class was still a big step up. Yeah, like I have heard that it's not as ship as we would imagine. It's still not incredible, obviously, but I reckon you think about it more like staying

in a hostel when you're backpacking, like... Probably would have been more fun. But they would either have like... Yeah, they'd have a great time. Oh yeah, they probably did. And on most other like North Atlantic passengers ships, at the time of third class, accommodation was just like open dorms. Hundreds of people were confined into small spaces.

Not often they didn't have adequate food or toilet facilities, but the white star line had broken that mold, so... Oh dear. I just realized that Matt forgot to ask for a toilet on his ship. Oh sucked in Matt you're shitting off the boat. Is it too late to ask for a bucket? You've got your bucket. It's a multi-purpose bucket. B-Y-O. No you could I get a toilet please as well. Yeah and I look at... Yeah full bathroom facilities thank you on sweet.

We haven't we haven't closed the request list. You can still make requests. It's fine. So what star is so luxurious that they're everyone's, they look everyone can shit luxury. That's basically everyone can shit, which is great. And what's interesting is what star lines everyone can shit.

They they divided their third class combination to two sections, always at opposite ends of the vessel from one another. So the idea there was that all the single men were sent off to one side. All the single men. All the single men. And then all the single ladies and the families are... I will not sing it again. So families and with that.

And unattached women also known as... Oh, the single women. Oh, the single women. Spinsters. Also known as... They used to be known as, yeah. Spinsters. Like, what do you mean, just young? What do you mean? Spinsters.

Spinsters, like, an older single woman. These are young, like... Spinsters, like... But, like, can we spinsters, don't they? Is that because they use that old spinning thing with wool? I think you're just making shit up now. Oh, I'm making up a question. I don't know where the term spins to comes from. Well okay. So,

in addition, while other ships only had that open birth sleeping arrangement, so it was just all kind of all for none, just bunks everywhere. The white starline vessels had their third class passengers with private small but comfortable cabins Which were capable of accommodating two four six eight and ten passengers So it is pretty much like staying in a hostel where you can have like a private room Just two people or it could be like in a four bed dorm or you could be up to a ten bed dorm. Yeah, that's pretty good Yeah, it actually wasn't too bad. I mean it's still like it's still third class and it's still Significantly less impressive than first class, but it's still it, it's still third class and it's still significantly less impressive

than first class, but it's better than it was on any other screen. What do you say from what you read that first class is like crazy over the top. You don't need it. Third class is like, ma'am, would second class be a nice little middle class? No, you're not. You can have, you know, like first, of course third class isn't as good as first class, but first class is so extravagant that no one really needs any of that stuff. Yeah, true.

Yeah. No one needs marble in their bedroom. But they were, they were, comics. Yeah. Oh, marble. But they were very worthy. No one needs marble chocolate in the bedroom. I will not allow it.

But the first class passengers were all, you know, bajillionaires anyway. So they were used to a certain lifestyle, David. And just because they're on the sea, just because they're on a holiday, doesn't mean they can't still have that first class last time. Yeah, well, I hope they all drown. They do. Oh, good.

Yeah, third class accommodation also included their own dining rooms, as well as public gathering areas. They call them, just like, I'm imagining empty rooms. It's a wreck room. Yeah, so it was pretty good. This is kind of interesting. So a passenger list was published before sailing to inform the public, you know, which members of the Great and Good were on board.

I like that, the Great and Good, right? So the passengers was published and it was not uncommon for ambitious mothers to use the list to identify rich bachelor's to whom they could introduce their daughters to during the voyage. Which is also a little bit like the film time. Exactly, and the more I read, the more I was like- The more I was very poor trying to marry that rich guy, the mum was trying to pressure into marrying- Well they were first class still, I think they didn't have. Their fortune had, I think they had, was dwindling.

Dwindling, yeah. Dwindling fortune, so it's like, go marry that wealthy man. Yeah, I think maybe her father had died or something like that. And that was Billy Zane, wasn't it? Yeah, Billy Zane. Billy Zane. And the more that you read, the more that you're like, oh, the movie is actually kind of accurate.

Right, but I don't think Jack and Rose are real people. No they are, they're 100% off. They're really my heart. Yeah, Leonardo DiCaprio is Jack. I can't believe that we took that long for me to sing. I mean, I wanted to. What was that? My heart will go on.

So lean the whole. The fucking panpipes that everyone at home is like there's not a dry eye in the house. Have you seen the film? I have. I saw it twice. Twice, that's it. I'm saying wait, have you seen it more than twice? Yeah, easily. Wow. Because it's been out since like 1997. Yeah. Did you see it at the cinema? He's like, no, it's too young. I saw it at the cinema. I remember my mum went with some work things shit. I cried. I was so terrified in the cinema when they When the spoiler the ship goes down and then she it goes back underneath to rescue him

And there's like trying to swim. Oh, yeah, that was it's terrifying for a seven-year-old mum and dad And when the guys like got the door closed on them and he won't open it for them or they can't find keys anyway One of the Titanic's most distinctive features which we were talking about before was the first class staircase known as the grand staircase Oh grand stairway now this descended through seven decks of the ship. Do you know is that big? It's like crazy It's all the way down. Can't even imagine imagine a staircase like that grand being that beat. It's beautiful. So I went from boat deck down to A deck. And it was in that sort of elegant style that's depicted in photos and movies.

And then- Without that clock in the middle. Yeah, really? Yeah. The roof over the arm end. It's beautiful. It had a dome with raw iron and glass that had like natural light coming in. It would have been incredible.

It would have been beautiful. You know, remember that? Yeah. Okay. Well, it's definitely a different film. Well, does the movie hold up? What do you watch it again? I mean, you've watched it more than twice.

I think I will probably go home and watch it tonight and I'll let you know. Okay. I've watched it twice at the movies is what I mean. Oh, yeah, okay. But I don't think I have seen it since I just have very little memory of it. Okay. Yeah, it was like nearly 20 years ago I mean. Oh yeah, okay. But I don't think I have seen it since I just have very little memory of it. Okay, yeah, it was like nearly 20 years ago.

Yeah. Um, my God it is. Yeah, next year. God, we'll have a bloody party for that. I'll tell you what. Now that party would be in Zane in the brain. Billy Zane. Billy Zane.

No, I got it. I'm thinking about that for like 10 minutes. Sorry, I had to get it out. We all have to have as many Billy Zane jokes as we can. Do with that what you will listen as I don't care. I just don't care. Honestly, I liked it until I knew you'd been working on it. Hashtag Zane in the saying it? I just saw an opportunity. I went for it that is what a great comedian does. Are you what are you saying here? He's saying you're a great comedian. In the world of Billy Zane jokes, I'm

second to none. Second to one, Billy Zane himself. He's great, self-deprecating humor, that's what he's all about. He was in back to the future, this is the second Billy Zane related episode. Oh my god. Really, I mean it's a stretch. Also, if you imagine him with the beard on, he looks a bit like Ned Kelly. Okay, can we, can I go on? Please do, go on. Now, although Titanic was obviously primarily a passenger liner, she also carried a substantial amount of cargo

and her designation as a royal mail ship, as we mentioned before, indicated that she carried mail under contract with the Royal Mail and also for the United States Post Office Department because she's going between the UK and America. between the UK and America. Now for the storage of letters, parcels and other things they had this huge space in her holds it was like 26,800 cubic feet which is 760 meters cubed. How many megatons is that? I don't understand any of these. 4.7. It's big, I guess. Now what I really like is that the C post office on GDEC was manned by five postal clerks, three Americans and two Britons, who worked 13 hours a day, seven days a week,

sorting up to 60,000 items daily. Wow. But what I don't understand is where is all the mail coming from? Where's the new stuff coming from? Or is it they just saw it on the boat? What's already on there? I don't know, maybe they just like shoved it all on the toilet Yeah, they hear it

Here's 600,000 items By the time it gets to the other side I want it all stacked neatly And if not, you're doing over top in New York You've got to like I think you'll send postcards on the ship maybe But it's like just hold on to it and send it when you get there. I don't really understand it all that but That's a very good point. They had postal quirks specifically just to do that which I really like. Now

Passengers right so Titanic's passenger numbers are a little iffy Sometimes it they're not actually a hundred percent sure on. I thought we had the list. The list of passengers. Yeah, I'm going to raid out all of the passengers. No, but he said that there's class, first class. Yeah, there's a lot of things in advance who was going to be there. Which these days would be a horrific security breach. Oh, it's awful.

You've got the president of South Africa on there. You've got the princess of Monaco. You're like, all right, well, we can attack that ship. No, totally. And you do have some big names, so it's weird. Inside job. It's an inside job. No, totally, and I'm... With an aspect. You do have some big names, so it's weird. Inside job. It's an inside job. No, but what I mean is the exact number of people bored

is it's known as not all of those people that have booked tickets made it to the ship. About 50 people canceled for various reasons. I imagine you'd be celebrating pretty hard on social media these days if you didn't make it. Big time. Do you reckon you'd be celebrating? You'd be bragging.

Now, you'd be doing... You'd be hashtag blessed, that's for sure. Yeah, and you'd be celebrating? You'd be bragging. You'd be hashtagmed blessed, that's for sure. Yeah, and you'd be doing articles with news.com.au. Big time. Big time. Right, so like people can solve various reasons, not all those who boarded stayed aboard the whole time because they did make a couple of stops at the very beginning of the journey. So like they're not really sure on exactly how many people were on board, which is so strange. But these approximate numbers are there was a total of about 1,300 people, which was 324 in first class, 284 in second class, and 709 in third class, so a lot more third class than any other. Right. And of these, about 66% were male, 34% female, there was a hundred and seven children and most of the kids I think at least 50% or slightly more of the kids were in third class.

Okay. Right. Plus there's a lot of people working so you... Yeah, the plus is a lot of staff and crew as well. Do you want to know how much it would have cost? Oh, to get to get a ticket? Yeah, no thanks. Okay, so next... No, direct the urans to me. Okay, so the fairs varied depending on class and season. I don't really know what they mean by season because it was the main voyage. But maybe... Oh, they planned more than one boy. Oh they planned heaps right they you can still there's still a record of all

Yeah, you can still book a ticket. They they released the 2020 schedule this last week Because we were talking about either 2019 or 2020 with you in 2020 20 guys 2020 We don't have a Titanic 2020 hashtag Titanic 2020. I'm in you're in good a good feeling family trip We'll be doing our first live podcast 2020 from the Titanic. No matter where she is. I haven't done my research. It's weird to do a live podcast four years into doing a podcast like it's what we first do one. Do you reckon we'll still be going in 2020? Yeah, no. Yeah. Do you think it's all right? I want to be. Yes. Do you think it's alright? Would it be? Yes. Um, doing a live podcast to celebrate so much, so much death.

We're not celebrating. We're on a trip together. We're taking a holiday to celebrate. Anyway, you always ruin it. Back to the fairs and then we're just- No, you won me over. I'm on board. Alright! See you on the fuck deck. Fuck deck three o'clock, alright! So the fairs, they did very depending on class, so the third class fair from London, so from London, Southampton or Queenstown, Queenstowns in Ireland, so those third class

fairs cost seven pound, which equivalent today would be like $647, the pound, sorry, which is double it for Australian dollars So six hundred and forty seven pounds is what a third class ticket would pay today because that's still a lot of money Yeah, but like it's these people aren't dirt pours on I'm trying to say it's well. It's a it's a long journey to though Yeah, well, I'm sorry how much is it in today's money 300 Australian imagine again six $600 flights to London. Well, I was paid 1700 for return. It's probably kind of add up to a cheapish flight.

And I am going through a class, technically, it's economy, all right? Yeah, shit, you're right, me too. I paid about the same. And I was pictured you guys as first class travelers. Alright first class what's the damage? The cheapest first class fair that you could get would have cost 23 pound which today would would be 2000 pounds. So four grand. That's pretty reasonable.

I thought I was going to be like 40,000. Yeah, but is there is that that's the worst of the first? That's yeah, the cheapest first card. Worse of the, to be honest, if there's a phrase that sums up my life, it's worst of the first. And so, but the most expensive first-class week just to give you an idea, because so far you've been going, whatever I could afford that. Okay, here we go.

The most expensive would have cost up to 870 pound. Oh my God, which is 77,000 pounds today. Right. That's $13,000. Okay. Can you afford that one Dave? Well, they can afford that. They're Dave, they're Dave. We'll have to do an extra shift next week. They'll do an extra shift they'll make us so much money. You've got an accent too by the way. Oh my god, it doesn't sound like that in my headphones but you are a master mimic so I can see it. Now usually you know something so prestigious like the Titanic on its maiden voyage you'd

expected to be fully booked. I just had a little snooze. No that was a, that was a chance. Oh okay you're right. Yeah. Okay. Hi, usually now quite a prestigious vessel like the Titanic made in voyage, it's exciting, you'd expect it to be like fully booked, right?

Yeah, like well in advance. Packed, right? Well, however, there was a national coal strike in the UK and that caused considerable disruption to shipping schedules and also, like, so a lot of things were cancelled and many would be passengers chose to postpone their travel plans until the strike was over. And the strike finished a few days before Titanic sailed. Like, so that cost ticket sales to it? Yeah, so it wasn't at capacity.

So do you know like what kind of a percentage of it was sold? I think it's around half full. Oh right So yeah, I would have I would not have expected that I thought it would have been packed You know waiting waiting room only that's not standing remotely waiting room only you know like when you go to the doctors This is waiting room and they're like they're booked out so you can just watch the doctor from the waiting room only But hopefully you'll make you feel better by association. Yeah. So you know how we were saying before that like they had big plans for Titanic. We got big plans for this boat and the maiden voyage was intended to be the first of many transatlantic

crossings between Southampton and New York stopping in France and Ireland to pick people up. And when it was established, there was gonna be four ships assigned to the service and each would sail once every three weeks, usually leaving at noon each Wednesday. So the idea was basically that eventually, they'd pretty much be able to have a weekly sail in each direction.

So people could just sort of come and go. That was a plan. I was just all the time, it's just doing a circle. Yeah, basically. So there's just going to be on a rotation. They were just always moving. There was even special trains that were scheduled from London to Paris

to convey passengers to Southampton and their French dock as well. So they could get on the ship. And there was also a deep water dock built at Southampton, specifically constructed to accommodate those ships, and it had opened in 1911, so they're like, they've got big plans for it. Yeah, that's been a lot of money on this. Yeah, but it was gonna be like, it was gonna be huge.

Yeah, they're gonna make a lot of money. It wasn't just like one fancy ship, it was gonna be this big, it was gonna change like the way that they transported people and the frequency with which they did, which is kind of cool. Now Titanic also had around 885 crew members on board for her maiden voyage. That's a lot of crew. That's a spicy meatball. That's a spicy meatball. That was they were all obviously under the watchful and carrying eye of Captain Edward John Smith. Oh that's old white beard.

Oh look a fake name. Edward John Smith. He was the most senior of the white Starlines captains. He was transferred from Olympic that their first big ship to take command of Titanic and they also brought along Henry Tingle Wild which is pretty cool to take the post of Chief Mate. Chief Mate is a cool title. That is a cool title. Chief Mate.

Well I said first mate before but I would like to change my rank to Chief Mate. Very good. So does that mean I'm second mate now? You can be Captain. You can be Captain. You got the beard for it. Yeah, I'm Captain. I'm in.

Hey, did he ever regret driving the ship into the iceberg? I reckon he might have. Because it was an interesting tactic, I think. Was that his theory? I think it was just like, look, you know what? We're in a big ship, we're just pushed through it. I don't think it was really a decision that he made. The paint chicken.

Yeah, and he thought the iceberg would fail. Yeah. Well, that was your first decision ice-pick would fail. Yeah. Well, that was your first mistake. Well, it wasn't really his decision, but we'll probably, I think when I'm talking about the Titanic, I'm gonna mention him again. What happened there? So I'll get to that.

Okay, I love your different little takes on topics. Yeah, I know. Do you always take it in a direction? I don't see it. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm like. You know what I'm like. I know what you're like. I want to know what you're like. Oh man, I'm fading. So help. So I'll just keep going. Yes, please. So all of the crew, or most of the crew signed on in Southampton and 40% of the crew were from that town, they were from Southampton, so they were mostly English.

Few specialist staffs were self-employed or were subcontractors, so that's like the postal workers, the staff of the first class Alacart restaurant and cafe Paris the Inn. They were subcontractors, if you will. The radio operators. They were from the subcontinent. No. Subcontractors. There was also radio operators and the eight musicians.

They were all employed by an agency, and they traveled as second class passengers. So it's kind of like when you talk to our comedian friends who go on cruises. It sounds kind of similar. Yeah, so there was people that subcontrary so they're not necessarily staff kind of like musicians that make sense you know they're not going to be you know cleaning bedrooms at the same time as you know playing their violins. Now the crew pay varied a

lot as well so Captain Smith made 105 pound a month equivalent today about 9,000 pound a month. That's good money. That's good money. It's pretty good money. But you're a big ship. Yeah, not bad. And the lowest was probably about three pound, which would be a 300 pound a month. That was for like the stewardesses.

Still. Oh, that's a month, not a week. 300 pound a month. Oh, I thought you meant a week, I'm like, that's pretty good Still. Oh, that's a month, not a week. Okay. I'm gonna pound a month. Oh, I thought you meant a week, I'm like, that's pretty good money. Yeah, it went back up, but not a month. You gotta remember though, the potato cakes back then

cost one P. Oh, okay, well now we put it like that though. That's a lot of potato cakes. A lot of potato cakes. A lot of potato cakes. Okay, so we finally, I'm moving back in time. A lot of potato cakes. Okay, so we finally... I'm moving back in time. A lot of potato cakes.

Love them. On Wednesday, the 10th of April 1912, Titanics made and voyaged began. So about, there was 923 passengers that boarded the Titanic at Southampton, so there was like 179 for first class, 247 for second class, and 494 people for third class. And because there was so many third class passengers, it meant they were actually the first to board and first and second were sort of

Let on a little bit later This is what I think you'll really enjoy the difference being like stewards showed them to their cabins for like second and first class But first class passengers they were personally greeted by Captain Smith on boarding, which reminds me of our mate at Welcome to Plane. Oh my gosh are you welcomed everyone on? Oh the first class. Welcome. Hello. Hello. I'm Captain Smith. Welcome aboard. Captain I didn't get my welcome. Well, do you promise? Because I'm not welcoming you twice. I've been tricked before. That's where. All right welcome. Gotcha! Throw him off the shoot. Matt just comes back with a different glasses on. I was gonna say with

the mustache, but like he already has a beard. Mustache over your beard. Come on, I'm a captain, Matt. I'm not gonna fall for that. That's pretty great. Third class passengers were inspected for any ailments or physical impairments. By the captain. No, by the captain. He's already busy welcoming everybody else. Because they were concerned that if they were unwell, it would lead to them being refused entry into the United States. Right.

And they didn't want to have to bring them back across the Atlantic. Like these sick dogs. To free holiday for your dog. You dogg. Right, so they were like, this is different, like, the captain's greeting all the first class people and the others would be like checked for ticks. Like, oh.

The captain also checked the first class for ticks. For ticks, yeah, we got it. Welcome, secretly. Show me, yeah, you can use your pen. Stick your tongue here. Look at the, just as examine your hair. Oh, nothing. No reason.

No reason. Normal, nautical procedure. Just really into hair. I think you've changed your profession. Welcome to ship. Welcome to ship. So the main voyage began at noon. Now they narrowly avoided an accident. Only minutes at light. Oh my god. Oh no. That Titanic passed another ship as it was like, it was mord, so it was the SS City of New York. It's a long ship title. Now the two ships avoided a collision by a matter of about four feet.

Four feet? Yeah, yeah. So, because another little tugboat came in and saved the day and got them out of the way. So, I was going to talk about smaller than four feet to fit in the middle. Probably. Peloton is ready when you are.

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the GI Bill. Now is the time. Mycomputercareer.edu Now, so then they arrive in core carb of the next day in the South Coast of Ireland, and they picked up additional passengers. And then they took off, and they were heading westward across the Atlantic. And the first three days of the journey were absolutely fine. Well, just normal, everything's going really well.

Everyone's happy. Everyone's having a good time. No one's got ticks. They did hit some like some weather. There was some weather. They had some weather. Weather happened. The weather was happening at all times, which is interesting. I don't know if you know that, but they had a weather, but that cleared up and then everything was going quite well. By the evening of Sunday, the 4th of April, it's really calm, it's very cold, but the water's clear, everything's calm, everything's going really well.

Nice. Now, during... I've got good feeling. Good feeling, everything's going well, they're having a good time. Now, during that day, the 4th of April, Titanic's radio operators received a couple, like six messages from other ships

running them of drifting ice. Six. Six messages. If I got six messages, that's my rule in life. I ignore the first six messages. But if I get a seventh, then I'll take notice. A great, a great. And you know what, that's a good rule.

Yeah. It's a good rule to have. And even passages on board had begun to notice that there was like a lot of ice in the water around. Now, not all of these messages were relayed by the radio operators. They didn't actually pass that on. They got them. They're like, well, radio operators on Oceanline were employees of the Marconi company and not members of their ship's crew. So their primary responsibility was to send messages for the passengers and the weather reports were like a secondary concern for them. So there's no dedicated weather guy.

No weather guy. That's good system. Yeah, so they're like, yeah, okay, other ships keep telling us that there's heaps of ice, but like, yeah, can you stop interrupting my messages? I'm busy. Right, so. Relaying Lord Caviar's message to his wife in New York. Lord Caviar. We just think wife in New York. Lord Caviar?

We just think he was a big healthy? Factual person. Ooh. Lord Caviar, look him up. He's not real. Look him up now. It's so distracting. Alright, he's not relayed, minute in a new way.

Heeey! But Billy Googled it. No, I was hoping it was open another tab, okay? Exactly. I bet he does exist. Everyone knows that you open a tab, you've lost a bit. So nonetheless, even though there's lots of ice around and they've been warned, the ship just continues to steam at full speed, which was to be fair

standard practice at the time. Cause it wasn't, it's not like they were, as I said before, they weren't focused on speed, it was more about luxury, but timekeeping was a priority. Obviously they need to get there in certain times. So they're just like, no, we'll be fine. And close calls with ice weren't uncommon. Even head on collisions had not been disastrous. So people had smashed and diced breaks before?

Yeah, like even in 1907, there was a German liner that had rammed an iceberg and still been able to complete her voyage. And Captain Smith himself said at the time that he could not imagine any condition, which would cause a ship to founder. Modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that. Oh, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, eww, field ice. And captain Smith's like, yep, all right, cool, got that message. Then later in the day, it's nearly two o'clock in the afternoon as other reports coming in that there's passing ice birds, large quantities of ice around. And Smith acknowledged that he's like, yep, cool, no worries,

whatever. Still keep going. Then at about two o'clock in the afternoon, there's a German ship ship which was a short distance to the south, reported she had passed two large icebergs. This message never reached Captain Smith, or the other officers. The reason is unclear, but it may have been forgotten because the radio operators had to fix faulty equipment, or just went and got a cup of tea. Either all.

Either all. Right, so it's quite late that night. Most passengers have gone to bed. Command of the bridge had passed from second officer Charles Lighttoller to first officer William Murdoch and there was a couple of lookouts there in the crow's nest so they're literally just standing there in the freezing cold just staring out into nothing because it's dark and it's really dark. It's real dark. The air temperature had fallen to near freezing. The ocean was completely calm. Now one of the survivors, a guy called Colonel Archibald Gracie. Great name. Now that's a caviaris. Yes. He later wrote that the

sea was like glass. So smooth that the stars were clearly reflected. It's now known that such exceptionally calm water is a sign of nearby pack ice. Oh no, so that's actually a sign of ice. It's a sign, if it's so still and clear, it's not a single wave or anything, it's a sign that there's ice nearby. So it's a spissiously calm there, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So isn't that weird, like they know that now, but at the time, it's just like, oh, quiet night. Could that for a stroll on A-Dick?

Yeah, and because the ear was quite clear, there was no moon. So with the sea so calm, there was nothing to give away the position of any nearby icebergs. Like they don't even have the moonlight to base it on. And they didn't have any binoculars because there was some sort of mix-up at South-Aedith before they left. I've heard that before, that they forgot to bring binoculars. Yeah, but apparently they would not have helped anyway. They wouldn't have been that effective in the dark, but yeah, they didn't have binoculars with them. This seems pretty dumb.

You'd think you'd have binoculars. Yeah. So yeah. They also think that the boat is unbreakable through, right? Oh yeah, they're super cocky about it. They're very confident, so I guess, but you still have to be on the look out for stuff, but you'd think like, I think the only thing they would be thinking about hitting would be another ship and you'd see those clearly because of all the lights. So who cares? Anyway, so at about 11.40 pm, well this isn't good, we're getting closer again. On that day, Fredrick Fleet, who was one of the lookouts, he spotted an ice bergamely ahead

of the Titanic and alerted the bridge. And their first officer, William Murdock, ordered the ship to be steered around the obstacle and the engines to be put into reverse, to sort of like back it away or try and avoid it completely. But it was too late, the starboard side,

which is the right side. From the maze. Well, of the Titanic struck the iceberg, creating a series of holes below the waterline. Now five of the ship's watertight compartments were breached. So it's kind of like, if you imagine, it's like when you've got a car and you decide to swipe something. Yeah. So they're going to go, is it right that they were going to go straight into it, but they

decided to try and turn it so it ended up just scraping along the side, just ripping heaps of holes. Exactly. So it would have been better just to crunch it? Well, I don't think anything. I think some people have said that, for that they always say that in those air crash investigations, if they put the autopilot back on, they would have been final, if they had turned all the, you know, there's always something. Yeah, there's always something. But in reality, come on. And they're going full speed ahead, you know, so it's still not, I mean, it's still a luxury line, but it's still going pretty fast, so they've going full speed ahead, you know, so it's and it's still not I mean it's still a luxury liner But it's still going pretty fast, so they yeah, yeah, so they've tried to avoid it. They've hit it. Um, so five Wait, what did I say before five of the compartments were breached and it soon became clear that the ship was doomed as she could not survive more than four compartments being flooded

Yeah, isn't that it's such an awful combo Why 15 or something like that? Something like that. It's like a third of them. If there'd been one less compartment where they're before that they would have still floated. But it was just enough to be like, no, you're going to sink.

Yeah, it was just too much. So then it starts to sink like front first? Because it's got like watertight doors right? They can close doors off. They could have seen them on sections I think, like, front first. Because it's got like watertight doors, right? They can close doors off. Like, they could have seen a lot of sections, I think, yeah. But five is too many. Five's too many.

But then of course, like the water just starts spilling from compartment to compartment as the angle gets steeper. Oh, because when it's going down. Because as it's going down, just more water's feeling further back. Right. So every compartment's getting a bit of water.

Basically, this is like, as it goes on, obviously, but yeah, they're already like, ooh, this is not good. But do you think that this put icebergs on the map? Cause like, do you think this is the big iceberg thing, right? What was iceberg letters called before this? Good question.

But I feel like I reckon that we would never talk about icebergs if it wasn't for the Titanic. I think that's the one, you know, feel good sort of silver lining out of all this, is that it really raised awareness of icebergs. Yeah. I think it became a metaphor, you know, for the tip of the iceberg. Well, I don't know about tip of the iceberg, but people, you got to look out for icebergs. You know that cliche with people. Sorry Matt, we're not in the maritime industry. Yeah, right. You might hear this when you go and visit your workers or whatever. I know what you richos are like. I am Lord Caviar. I knew it.

He is Lord Caviar. Anyway, I just think we should think about it. I'm glad you had a good time while people are dying. Well, no one's died yet. That's true. And I've got a good feeling. But it's all going to take a lot of time. I was barricaded, even though the disaster moves and stuff are based on real things like

or someone's better dying. You're like, oh, come on. This time, Marok and you can get out of this. Yes, well, maybe they can oh thank god well there's only five of what 15 watertight compartments they'll be fine right they'll be fine so that was it like 1140 it kind of hit right then 25 minutes later captain Smith ordered the ship's lifeboats to be uncovered and passengers to sort of be must he must be pretty aware straight away that's not good good. Yeah, but he was not really great to be honest. Oh no. So he also

ordered the radio operators to start beginning to start beginning to begin sending distress calls which wrongly placed the ship on the west side of the ice belt and directed rescuers to a position that turned out to be inaccurate by about 13 and a half nautical miles which is 25 kilometers. So they're in the wrong spot. Right but is anyone even close enough to get to the other spot? There are ships nearby. There are people close enough. Yes. Whether or not they respond to those signals will find out. How are they gonna do? Now they don'ts do. So below decks of waters pouring into the lower level the ship, as the mail room flooded,

the mail sorters made the ultimately futile attempt to save the 400,000 items of mail being carried on board. Oh boys. They're like, we're gonna save the mail, fuck it. Fuck it. The postcards, fuck them. Right, and above them, the stewards went door to door which waking up passengers in crew

because they didn't have a public address system just like a tension ladies' enjoyment. They didn't have one of those, so stewards are just running along banging on doors. Sorry to bother you. Terribly sorry. We're all going to die. Carry on, chinchin.

Right, and it's funny too because the thoroughness of mastering all these people really depended on the class of the passengers and not in a malicious way, but first class stewards were in charge of a few cabins. Right. There's only ten doors to knock on the top of the wall. They were even helping people get dressed, getting their stuff together. Second class had slightly more, so they could just sort of, you know,

they could do it a bit easier. But with like third class, they're just like running through opening doors, telling passengers to put on life belt and get upstairs. Like they were largely left to their own devices after being informed. You need to come up to deck,

but nobody was properly informed about anything. In fact, the passengers weren't told the ship was sinking. But do the crew even know the ship sink ship? I don't think anybody really knows what's happening. No. the passengers weren't told the ship was sinking. But did the crew even know the ship's sinking? I don't think anybody really knows what's happening. No, the passengers weren't told the ship was sinking, so many of them didn't listen to orders because they wanted to stay where it was warm inside the ship.

Because it was zero degrees outside, right? It was freezing, so they didn't go out. They're like, well, no, it's colder there. It will stay inside. Ooh. Finally, it was a warmer day. That iceberg probably melted. And this could have all been avoided.

Thanks global warming. So in terms of lifeboats, right, you'd think that would be fairly imperative, that would be important. Well yeah, I mean the word life is in the phrase. The Titanic had 16 sets of davits, as I was talking about before like the cranks, to lower the boats and each were able to handle four lifeboats. So that gave the Titanic the ability to carry up to 64 wooden lifeboats, which would have been enough for 4,000 people, which was considerably more than her full capacity anyway. Right, that's heaps, so that's enough right? They had heaps. However, the White Star Line decided that only 16 wooden lifeboats and four like collapsible ones would be carried. So that could accommodate

about 1200 people just under, which is only a third of the Titanic's total capacity. But it's not full. It's not full. At the moment. So it's quite small. It's more than a third, but is it still not quite enough for everyone? Still not quite enough. And at the time, the Board of Trades regulations required British vessels over 10,000 tons to only carry 16 lifeboats with a capacity of 990 occupants. So therefore, the White Starlin actually provided more lifeboats than they were legally required. They had more than they were supposed to.

And is it true that they could have had more, but they just didn't want to clog the deck? Yeah, it was going to take a bit too much space. So they had room, but it was like, wow. But it's unsinkable, remember it's unsinkable, so you don't really need all of them. And at the time anyway, lifeboats were intended to just ferry survivors

of a sinking ship to a rescuing ship. Like you'd just go, flip there you go, flip and you'd go back. The idea wasn't to keep a float the whole population. Oh yes, stay all night. Stay all night, exactly. So it was just gonna be little ferryboats like,

oh okay, this boat's having some troubles. We'll just go over to that one. That was the idea. So So while they did and they like they had more than they had to but they still didn't have enough So about 20 past midnight is 40 minutes after the original collision the loading of the life boats was underway Now this is where like one of the second officers he recalled afterwards so he obviously survived that he noticed Captain Smith standing near the bridge looking out at the ocean in a trance like days and he said to him I yelled at the top of my voice, hadn't we better get the women and children into the boats

he heard me and nodded. So he's not doing much? He's not like panicked. Yeah and so he he ordered those probably feeling a little guilty. Well he didn't put the iceberg there but anyway so but it was interesting because he was like really experienced but didn't handle this very well at all and I have more about that later as well. He orders two of the officers to put the women and children in and lower away, but they kind of interpreted their women and children evacuation order differently. So Murdoch took it to mean women and children first, while the other one took it to mean women and children only. Only so even if it's...

So one was sort of letting in a few blocs and the other... Wait, if it was for him for him? Yeah, and the other... But it's the other guy putting him in the other room for them. Yeah, and the other one. But is the other guy putting them in the water? Just kids. So even if they're spots. Yeah. That's so no, they're just like filling it full of kids. Well, kids in I thought it was women and children and Billy's own first. How does he do it? Oh no. But that is the thing though, some of the boats aren't full, is that right?

Well it was kind of, it was if, like, all this is it, if all nearby women and children had gotten the boat and there was a few blokes hanging around and there was seed to like, yeah, jump in. So one guy did, but the other guy didn't, is that right? Yeah, yeah. So the guy on one side is like... Letting dudes on. Some dudes, but the other guy is like, there's 60 spots on the boat, but we've only got 40 kids. Ah, let it go.

Then there's 20 blocks going. Oh, what about me? Most of the boats were not even vaguely close to their capacity. Really? Oh my god. Why was, and that was because of that? No, not because of that, just because they didn't know. But also some people are scared to get in, right?

People are out right saying no. Right, just because you're on a big ship and you're like, well, people said this can't sink and then they can't really understand. They don't really understand. They're like, oh, I don't know. What are you saying? Some people are like, well, I'll tell you

that my chance is on the big, right, thanks. Which sounds stupid now, because we all know how it goes. Because the crew hadn't been trained adequately. They hadn't even done a practice run. So they didn't know what they were doing. These two guys didn't know how many people could be safely carried in the boats as they were lowered into the water. None of them really knew properly how to lower them into the water.

They hadn't been trained. Because a lot of the staff sort of came on a few days before the boat took off. So none of them knew what they were doing. And also, like it's obviously crazy people are screaming and shouting stuff, but I've also read once before that. It's really hard to hear because the water's filling up, but then there's heaps of steam coming out because it's hitting the engines full of coal and fire. So there's all that sweat in the blood. So you can't really yell at each other and tell each other what to do?

I'm just using hand signals. It's like really, oh no, I don't think I haven't seen a movie in a long time. Do they have that in the movie other than that? Yeah, they're yelling, yeah. They couldn't hear each other very well, yes, they did have that. So... Oh, I'd be terrifying. They could have been lowered quite safely with their full capacity

of 68 people, especially because the weather conditions were actually quite favorable. Why could it not choppy? Not choppy, it's quite... It's a good night for a sinking, you know? Like if you're going to sink on any night, this is a good one to do. But had this been done, an extra 500 people could have been saved. Instead, hundreds of people, predominantly men, were left on board as lifeboats were launched with many seats vacant. Because they didn't know how many people they should put in the boat. Yeah, it's not good.

So I suppose if you didn't know you'd be worried that the ropes would snap if it was too heavy. You know, they'd be lowered in by that loads. What are those things called? A divot. The cranks. The cranks, the cranks might break. You'd be like, well, there's too many people to crack.

That isn't movies, isn't it? I think it is. So, and what we were sort of saying before, like some of the third-class passengers, they were largely left to just fend for themselves, which caused many of them to become trapped below deck as the ship filled with water. So they weren't locked in, like. my memory they're locked in and I was...

Well they are in the film but not in real life. Yeah, yeah, but I was just thinking like surely that that's awful if they're locking people to try. But you know that they was like because we sort of said before there was heaps more third-class passengers than any other class. So there's obviously a lot of people they're all trying to rush to the one place. It's going to be bottleneck. They got trapped. Not nice. Now there was distress flares that were filed off every few minutes to attract the attention of any ships nearby. And the radio operators were repeatedly sending distress signals.

In fact, the SOS signal was actually new at the time. And one of the operators said to the other, you know, should we use this and the other replied, maybe your last chance to send us. Right, so there's any animals. Well, one of them is a survivor. Oh, good point. Good point. At least one. The Morse code of that quote.

Yeah, as he was going down. I just said to the guy, this is your last chance to use SOS. Pretty good, right? SOS. Good bye, right? SOS, goodbye. I'm out. And I'm gone. And I'm gone. And I'm gone.

Drops Morse code machine. Morse code machine, drop. So they're trying to contact other ships. Several was bonded of which RMS Carpathia was the closest, which was 58 miles or 93 kilometers away, but she was a much slower vessel than the Titanic and even after even driven at her maximum speed it would have taken about four hours to reach the sinking ship. But that's not quick enough is it? It's not quick enough. Another to respond was the SS Mount Temple,

which set course and headed for Titanic's position but was stopped on route by packed ice. It got stuck itself. Not, you know, not hit but it was a bit tricky. Much Nira was the SS Californian which had warned the Titanic of ice a few hours earlier. So they'd sort of had contact earlier anyway. The captain of the California Stanley Lord, he was a bit apprehensive, but his ship being caught in large field of drift ice earlier that day. So at about like 10 o'clock at night, they had halted for the night, were waiting for daylight to find their way through the ice, when they could see better. And yeah, at about 11 30, 10 minutes before the Titanic hit the iceberg, the Californians ready operator, Cyril Evans, shut his set down for the night and went to bed.

10 minutes before they hit. If he'd stayed at his post for 15 minutes longer, hundreds of lives may have been saved. Yep, that's pretty good. So the lifeboats were being lowered every few minutes, the last one being lowered at about 205 AM with 25 people in it It could hold 40

It was one of the smaller ones. Why aren't more people getting on at the end because by that stage it's clear that it's going down People were jumping off the ship into boats People got injured like one woman like cracked ribs because this large German guy jumped off the Titanic into the boat and like landed on it Oh my god. It was mayhem. Was that Billy's own? It was Billy's own. It was Billy's own. Now I've got a little section here that I've titled,

Captain Smith whoopsie. No. No. We should have a jingle for that. Captain Smith whoopsie. Captain Smith, as I was saying before, he's an experienced seaman who experience can't get it been around so to speak he'd served for 40 years at sea including 27 years in command so he should he's no that sounds

like a lot of experience like he knows what he's doing right how many times does his ship go on down up in the Inesburg? Is that the experience you could really? Yeah that would be really interesting. Smith draw from that experience. So what people have said is that he would certainly have known that even if all the boats were fully occupied a thousand people were going to remain on the ship as she went down which is like he would have known that even if they were fully occupied so and they weren't. Now as he sort of, he sort of became quite paralyzed by indecision. Like, he'd ordered passengers and crew to muster, but sort of failed to order his officers

to put the passengers into the lifeboats. He didn't really organize a crew. He failed to convey crucial information. He sometimes gave ambiguous or impractical orders and never gave the command to a band and ship. He just kind of like- He sometimes gave ambiguous or impractical orders and never gave the command to abandon ship He just kind of like oh what so technically he never called abandon ship. He never called abandon ship Oh Which is weird right yeah real weird mm-hmm

Even so this is this is great even some of his bridge officers were unaware for some time after the collision that the ship was Sinking So fourth officer Joseph Boxel didn't find out until 1.15am which was belly an hour before the ship went down. While their quartermaster George Rowe was so unaware of the emergency that after the evacuation had started he phoned the bridge from his watch station to ask why he'd just seen a lifeboat go past. He didn't know the crew, the crew high up didn't know. And they like the hop crew, they're not just... They're top claims, yeah.

So he didn't advise that his officers that the ship didn't have enough lifeboats to save everyone, and he did not supervise the loading of the lifeboats and seemingly made no effort to find out if his orders were being followed. So he's kind of giving like different orders but not really following through with anything. He's just sort of like delegating but not really delegating. So that's his whoopsies. So for many years it was generally believed that the sink... The sink should have had the plug in the whole time and would have saved the boom. and would have saved the bump. Vityers, it was generally believed that the ship sank in one piece. However, when it was located years later, I'll talk about that too.

It was discovered the ship had fully broken in two. So what sort of happened is the film is actually quite accurate in that it starts to sort of go down, front forward, so then the bum goes up into the air, and then the pressure from that means it just cracks in half. Snaps in the middle. Snaps in the middle. How do people not know? Didn't people watch it go down from the lifeboat?

Or was it dark, too dark for them to see it snapping up? I don't know. He just said people thought it was one piece. What a thought that was. Oh true, you would think there would have been witnesses that would have said no, it's snapped in half. But maybe it was too dark. They probably just rode as far as they could away, I would.

Yeah, I dunno. That's a really good point, I hadn't thought of that. I'm not really sure. So all the remaining passengers who didn't make it onto the boat, so it's over a thousand people still on the Titanic. Which is what, that's a majority of people. Yeah. They obviously all ended up in the water, whether they jumped into the water, whether they...

Got sucked in. Got sucked in, whatever it was. They ended up in the water, which was a lethally cold temperature of 28 degrees Fahrenheit, which is minus 2 degrees Celsius. Oh, which is... I've never been in water that cold ever. No, god no. Like not even close.

Now, almost all of those in the water died of cardiac arrest or or hypothermia is it's so shocking that you just give you a lot of them did yeah a lot would have a heart attack just because the shock to the body I'll be I just kind of I'm feeling cold thinking about and if you didn't have that then within about 15 to 30 minutes you were dead from hypothermia anyway. Imagine lasting 30 minutes. Now only 13 people, 13 of the thousands in the water, a thousand in the water, 13 of them were helped into lifeboats. So about seven... So these extra seats? Yeah, these seats. So people were just like rowing through bodies.

Please can I have? Oh yeah. But I don't think they don't go back for them. Is that even in the movie that have that they talk, we should go back and they say they'll swamp the boat. No, they do. They do go back. But many of them? Only a couple of boats go back. And it's fun too late by then, is it? Okay, so. Oh, I see your bodies in the orphan, isn't it? I'm just gonna find that there. That's in the movie, that bit is really distressing actually. Thank you. Here it is. See him floating.

Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting to anyway because about 710 people survived and 1500 didn't. That's two thirds. Yeah, so only a few of those in the water did survive. Among them were Archibald gracey who we mentioned before Which one was he again? He was the he was the guy who said Who later wrote that the clear water? Oh, right was a sign of Survive from the water from the water. So he got into the water

So I think they um it the way they kind of make it sound is that there was a capsized Collapsible boat. I don't really understand what the collapsible boat is like a Portable boat. I think it's got canvas sides. Right. Okay. So you have to build it, but then they don't know how to build it Yeah, so he's even one of them floats off the deck When it goes down and then people jump into it. Well, that's pretty much exactly what I like swim into it But then it's not a proper boat because it's not built. Well that's exactly what they're doing.

So there's a handful of them that have found one of these cuttle boats and that's sort of how they survived. Oh yeah but I imagine that you've, if you've been in the water, even if you get out of the water, it's not warm enough to keep you. And this is it, so what? It you dry. What Matt was just saying is that,

so there's a few of them, there's maybe like 20 30 people in in this boat And they've realized the risk to the boat of being swamped by the massive swimmers around them So they just paddle slowly away Ignoring the pleas of dozens of swimmers to be allowed on board. Oh see that's one of those things where like that sounds awful But maybe if you had done it didn they need an old round. Yeah. And he's, and he had stopped and said, that's something you'd never forget though. No, the pleas of people.

I don't know. Now, but get this. So he later wrote that he had admiration for those in the water because this is a quote from him. In no instance, I'm happy to say, did I hear any word of rebuke from a swimmer because of a refusal to grant assistance. One refusal was met with the manly voice of a powerful man, alright boys, good luck and God bless you.

That's not true. Why would he make that up? I guess just to make himself sound like. He sounds like a total dick for leaving people behind, so why would he make up a story about them being quite calm about it? He made that up. I thought that was kind of brutal. It would be so brutal. Yeah. Did he took it so well? Be it easy to be like, all right, Chaps, carry on. They're like, no, let me in your bathroom. He's like, all right, see you up. All right, I'll try these other guys. All right. Backstructed. No worries. Butterflies. Butterflies. Yes, I'm going to love.

So after about 20 minutes, the cries began to fade as the swimmers lepst into unconsciousness and death. So they just had to put up with 20 minutes of winging and then everybody died, so it was fine. I know, it's awful. Can you imagine that? Like the screaming would be bad enough, but then imagine when it stopped. Oh, yeah. Oh Totally spent episode was a bit dry

It's not dry. It's just fucking dark. Super dark. Very wet. Yes Because of all the water. Cold. Yeah, cold and wet Jess. You weigh off the mark again. Now fifth office of low who's in charge of lifeboat number 14, waited until the yells and shrieks had subsided for people to thin out before mounting an attempt to rescue those in the water. So it's like, just let most of them die off,

and then whoever's left will try and pick up, which is awful. So he gathered together about five of the lifeboats, transferred people around to free up some space, and then took a crew of about seven crewmen and a passenger who volunteered to help, and they rode back to the side of the sinking. So they did go back, and that took about three quarters

of an hour, by the time it headed back to the side of the sinking, almost all of those in the water were dead, and only a few voices could still be heard. So they waited for people to die and then took another half-hour to like, sort themselves out. That's my rule of thumb as well. Wait for people to die. Wait for people to die and then give it another half hour.

Otherwise you'll get a stitch. Yeah. No, Dave, that's eating and sleeping. Oh yes, half-fuck. Not my whole people for dying. Low, low, was thinking that exact same thing. Yeah. That's eating and something. Oh yes, off. Not my whole people die. Should that be a lie? Low, low, what's thinking that exact same thing? Yeah.

It is hard to judge though, isn't it? It's so hard, like it's not a situation that we could possibly imagine. But, um... I definitely would have been heroic in that situation. Yeah, you would have said, alright boys, have a good one. Take my spot. That's what I would have said. Yeah, you would have said that.

The design. Not even to a woman or child, it would have been to a billy-zane. Yeah. Yeah, you would say that. Billy Zane. Not even to a woman or child, it would have been to a Billy Zane. Yeah. There you go, mate. Hi, Mr Zane. Hello, little fella. I'd be sitting next to Billy Zane,

and I'd notice that he just a little bit uncomfortable. I'm like, I'm jumping in, you can put your feet up a much here. Good on you, mate. Exactly. Did you just sit there? You feel it up, Gapna? And you just dive in, put the swimming cap on.

A very graceful dive on a magic as well. No splash. Because you landed on a frozen body. 10 out of 10 dies. A couple of hours after the Titanic had gone down, They were rescued, the survivors. Who would have been fucking cold as well? So, more people had died, like more people in the boats were dying just from hypothermia. Like it's freezing. And their shitty boats too, right?

They're not great. Like some of them have water in them. And a couple of them, like they had to stand up to try not to like wobble the boat because the weather conditions turned a little bit and they got a little bit choppy out. So one boat had to stand just to stay afloat so people were falling in and dying anyway. Yeah, just because you're in the boat you wouldn't be sure that you're gonna leave.

You're not, you're still being over there. I've made it off the big boat but there's still a challenge here. So it's about 4am and the RMS Carpathia finally arrived. They had steamed through the night at high speed. It was a considerable risk actually. And the ship had had to dodge. I mean, they could have hit the iceberg themselves.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was a huge risk, but they were just, they were going for it. So as the lifeboats were brought alongside Carpathia, the survivors came aboard the ship by various means. So some were strong enough to climb up rope ladders. Others were hoisted up in slings. Children were hoisted up in male sacks and this in the dark is that 4 am more 4 5 am so yeah It's quite dark and at about 9 am two more ships appeared on the scene the mountain temple and the Californian which had finally learned of the disaster when her radio operator returned to duty. Well what a beautiful night sleep. Oh shit. Oh shit. Wops are daisy. You're fuckhead. Didn't you say our fire works? But by then there were no more survivors to be rescued,

obviously, other than the ones that had already made it onto their lifeboats. A cafe there would be had been bound for what's now known as Croatia. But they didn't have the stores of medical facilities to cater for the survivors, so they ordered the ship to turn around and go back to New York to get the survivors from Titanic back to get, probably looked after. That's kind of nice, I guess. Now, what it was sort of setting before, like the number of cavities is unclear due to a number of factors, so like the confusion over the passenger list, some people had cancelled their trip last minute. So they didn't really even know exactly how many

people were on the boat, but the death toll has been put at between 1,490 and 1,635 people. So let's say 1,500 people. It's a big difference though, isn't it? It's a big different account for a while. Yeah, absolutely. Which is like, it's so big difference though isn't it? There's a big difference. One account for a while. Yeah absolutely. Which is like it's so strange like today. Yes like everyone's accounted for. Yeah either 10% other way. Yeah weird. What have been a great opportunity to steal someone's identity? Yeah.

It goes to the right city. It goes to New Life in America. Oh did she? Well she changed her name. It's a Billy Zane. Billy Zane. I don't remember that. Massive plot twist. Yeah. She gives Jack's last name as her her name. It's a Billy Zane. Billy Zane. I don't remember that massive plot twist. Yeah.

She gives Jack's last name as her last name. Because he's gone and she didn't want to marry Billy Zane. Right. Just fair. So fewer than a third of the total aboard Titanic survived the disaster. Some survivors died shortly afterwards. Like we were sort of saying before, injuries and effects of exposure, several of those died while they were on the cappetia. Do I keep saying that right? Yeah, cappetia. So that's kind of sad as well. Only 3% of the first class women were lost, 54% of those in third class had died. So more than half of the third class passengers died. Oh wow. Similarly, five of six first class and all second class children survived, but 52 of the 79 in third class perished. I wouldn't have taken up much space in the

vote either. They only lost one of the first class kids, but 52 of the 79. The difference by gender, we're even bigger, so nearly all female crew members, first and second class passengers were saved. Men from first class died at a higher rate than women from the third class. So even if you're a rich man. Yeah, it's still ladies first.

All right, getting on the boat see you never boys. Just another example of a women, women, women, women, women. Women, women. Women. Women. God, when will it end? When will this tyranny end? Hopefully never! Jess is a winner at all times! Got a jingle today. At all times when ships are going there. We're nearly done. That's right, the one caveat. So Kapaitia took three days to reach New York after leaving the scene of the disaster

and a journey was slowed by pack ice fog, bad weather. It's going to be a long three days if you'd been on the tarmac. Huge three days. And you'd be scared of boats by then. Yeah, well, you'd see more ice and go, No, no. You'd be so convinced that something was going to go wrong. It was not good.

However, obviously, because of the technology, they were able to pass news to the outside world by wireless about what had happened. But the initial reports were confused, leading the American Press Report, that the Titanic had been towed to port by the SS Virginia. Oh, that's so wrong. It's so wrong.

It's not even, yeah, it's like, no, it's the opposite. It's gone. So later that day, like they confirmed all the news. It hit hardest in Southampton because people suffered the greatest losses from that sinking, because like four out of every five crew members came from that town Like not a lot of the crew was from there. So they had it. They were pretty hard hit by it Carpati a doctor at 9.30 p.m. on the 18th of April in New York's P.F. 54 was greeted by about 40,000 people Waiting in the rain to like greet the boat, I, and a great feels weird when it's quite tragic.

I bet they're can people with cheering and they boat. Neither boat. Neither boat. Now immediate relief in the form of clothing and transportation to shelters was provided by the Women's Relief Committee, the Travelers Aid Society of New York and the Council of Jewish Women. Again, women looking out for each other. Among other organizations they had all this relief there for them. So Carpathia was hurriedly restocked with food and provisions before resumed its journey and her crew were given a bonus of a month's wages by Kunad there,

because it was a Kunad ship that came and saved the day. Oh, it's just the rival. The rival. As a reward for their actions, they were given a bonus month's wage and some of the Titanic's passengers, probably first class we assume, joined together to give them an additional bonus of about 900 pounds, which is about 80,000 pounds, divided amongst the crew.

So as a thank you for you know saving them and looking after them they yeah wow they took it out of their own pocket to give them some money which is kind of nice I guess. So I do have a little tab here that I've called Fun Facts because you know I love Fun Facts. However I don't know how fun they're gonna be obviously but let's have a look. Do you have the one about the pig lady? I don't have the one about pig lady. Can you tell us that? All right. I love this story. There's this lady. It looks like a pig.

It looks like a pig. And she was saved because of a piggy-like looks. Now, there's a lady in first class called Eda Throzenbaum. And she was 33 years old and she had like this lucky toy pig. Oh, I was hoping it was a real pig. It's not a toy pig, and you pull the tail. It's not a toy pig, and you pull the tail. If you pull the tail that makes a noise, like it's saying a song, or it's saying something

that's really annoying. And she was in first class. So she nearly did. She was on the deck and they had the lifeboats there and people telling her, get in, get in, get in. She was saying, no, I don't want to, I'm too scared, I'm too scared. And she was holding a toy pig and someone thought it was a baby and they went, fine, we're not going to save your baby, I will. And they grabbed the pig and threw it in the boat. And because she loved the pig so much, she went, no, and jumped after

it. And then she got it in the boat and she survived just because someone threw her toy pig into the boat. They threw a baby. What they thought was a baby. Yeah, like threw it to someone else. There you go and she's like, oh my god, and that out of instinct. And at no point from picking up the toy pig to throwing it, did he go, hang on. That's not a baby. That feels a bit more. There's a lot of crazy stuff going on on the deck at that time. And then she used the pig

to sort of distract the children in the lifeboat from the stress. The actual children going around them. She actually used the pig. And then this later on, this became like a big story. And she later on in her life. Married a pig. So she appeared on a bunch of talk shows with the pig. You're kidding. I'm like a big thing. And then it's in, like some sort of Titanic museum. Does this exist on YouTube?

What talk shows on the radio? Yeah, all sorts of stuff. Oh, kidding. And she lived a long life. And she's known as the pig lady. No, no, just. That's what dates are. That's what I referred to her as

Wow Rosenberg that is really interesting. Yeah, if you look up this I'll tweet out a picture of the pig Yes, please yeah, there's a and it's you can go see it in her museum Well, I just love that story she wouldn't she would only leave it because of her She's the 33-year-old woman that lived because she had a toy pig Yeah, get a life you dumb bitch oh hang on hey wait sorry wait wait wait Jess hasn't turned on anyone this episode

yeah I've been busy we've been busy doing the report I can't I don't laugh as much or feel happiness yeah when it's my turn anyway wait is it the report do you remember this part in a film that's actually Yeah, when it's my turn. It's all white, isn't it? Tee fun facts. Do you remember this part in a film that's actually true?

The Titanic had two separate bands of musicians. I kind of mentioned the musicians before. So one was a quintet led by Wallace Hartley that played after dinner and at religious services. While the other was a trio that played in the reception area and outside the cafe. And the two bands had separate musical libraries and arrangements and they not played together before but around 30 minutes after colliding with the iceberg the two bands

were called by Captain Smith who ordered them to play in the first class lounge like just play some music. Right so the guy that's making no decisions at all is like you know what first class lounge needs music. Exactly that was his first thing. But he hasn't said anything about abandoning. His first priority was like well we better play piece of music. Exactly, that was his first priority. But he hasn't said anything about abandoning. His first priority was like, well, we better play some bloody music. Right, so they, the music, we don't know exactly when, but a bit later, they kind of moved to the deck level and we're playing music outside on the deck while the ship's going down.

As it's depicted in the film, that's true. And they died, all of them died. They all died. Oh. Isn't that so strange and kind of beautiful? Now part of this folklore about that story though is that the musicians played the hymn nearer my god to thee. Oh yes I've got a story about that. Well my grandma once told me that many years ago

she's 90 years old now. So probably 60 years ago. She was at a New Year's Eve party. She went to the party with her husband and then my grandfather and his business partner and they owned a chemist together and they went to this New Year's Eve party and then they drove home that night and it was like the drive was driving so fast and she was so scared because on the car radio the song nearer my god to the and she knew that they played that when the Titanic went down and she was terrified for a life and thought it was a sign like this is it and then when she got the next day the

business partner came around and said morning Leslie to my grandmother her name is Leslie and said oh did, did you drive home last night? I can't remember. And she was like, no, you drove home. She had no idea, but he was so off his face. He had no, he couldn't remember driving home. And they had the Titanic song. Oh my God.

So that's why I remember that song, the year of my God to the, because she said, yeah, the song they were playing when the Titanic went down. I was like, oh my god. Maybe we need to tell Leslie that this is a bit up in the air. I don't actually think it was what they were playing, because they were told to play sort of upbeat music, and it's quite a somber, him, isn't it?

Like it's a... Yes. So, um, yeah. So it might not have been that song? But it is very closely associated with it, so... That's why she would have. Totally. My grandma is not old enough to remember the Titanic.

No, but it is so closely related or sorry, so closely associated with the Titanic Disaster, that its opening bars were carved onto the grave monument of Titanic's bandmaster walls heartly, who did pass away. Oh! So, on his grave, they had the opening bars of that song. So, even if they weren't playing it it is associated with it So that's Fun fact

No, but it is fair. It's extremely brave of those musicians to play the music as the ship's going down Yeah, what would you do? Yeah, it's very brave. What song would you play? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't help it. Something that keeps you happy. Oh, I know what I do. I know what I do. I mean, I assume I'd have my ukulele with me. And I would sing, here's a little song I wrote my water singing not for not don't worry Be happy Don't worry be happy. Oh, did you play Matt? Yeah, I guess that try to be sad right now When I feel so damn good. You can't do it.

Yeah, I don't know. I wonder what would you... It would either be something happy like that or it would be something, you know, taking the piss out of like six months in a leaky boat or something. Fabulous. Just spent six months in a leaky boat. Another clapper. We got the people clapping. How can you say that when you're clapping?

A bit of a whistle in the clapper. And a click. Now the ship's designer. What was his name, Dave? Thomas Andrews. Very good, Mr. Thomas Andrews. He was reportedly last seen in the first class smoking room having removed his

life belt, staring at the painting above the fireplace. Just having a drink, staring at the painting. So he's having a drink in a smoke? Something like that was in the movie as well. Yes, I'm pretty sure that exact thing where he's just by himself looking at the painting. And Captain Smith's fate is unclear as well. There's sort of conflicting accounts of his death. He either entered the wheelhouse on the bridge and died when it was engulfed, which is what's portrayed in the film. That's the movie, The Wall of the Warden.

He loves himself and then it just... Shh. It's the way to do it. Or he jumped into the water just before the bridge was submerged and drowned anyway. Let's go with the... Are we gonna use the fire? The first one's way more romantic. Yeah, yeah.

Because people didn't see him because it was at the bar, but the big barbershop got a bid shake off. Yeah, it's a transletch. Starting in New Life in America. Gotta look good. Now there's stories of... The more Kevja. There's stories of, you know, husbands walking their wives to the boats and be like, no, it's fine, you hop in, I'll get in another one, it's fine. It's just, it's protocol women and children first. You go, I'll be fine. Right, but other couples refuse to be separated. Ida Strouse, who was

the wife of Macy's department store, Coona, Ida Door Strouse. She told her husband, we've been living together for many years where you go I go and They sat down in a pair of deck chairs and waited for the end Oh, no, and this is pretty great the industrialist Benjamin Guggenheim changed out of his life vest and sweater Into a top-at-and-evening dress and declared he wished to go down with the ship like a gentleman. Oh So many charities were set up to help the victims and their families, many of whom lost their soul breadwinners because obviously so many men died. Or in the case of many third class survivors, they, everything they owe and they lost everything.

So on the 29th of April, there's a couple of opera singers in Rico Karuso and Mary Garden in disappointing name after a cool name like Karuso and Mary Garden in disappointing name after a cool name like Riko and Mary and members of the Metropolitan Opera raised $12,000 which in 2014 would have been $292,000 so there was a lot of money there raised a lot of money in benefit for victims of the disaster by giving a special concept in which versions of autumn and never my god nearer my god to thee were part of the program. So there was sort of two songs that was right. It would have been played. Soundtrack to my grandma's life. Now the first film about the disaster saved from the Titanic was released 29 days after the ship sank. What are you serious? That is ridiculous. The facts would

not be known at all by that state. And it an actual survivor is it star and it ended with the ship being Toad support not that yeah that's right because I thought that was 29 day and it has a survivor is the star She was a silent film actress called Dorothy Gibson that is a fun fact isn't that ridiculous 29 days after now the British film A Night to Remember, which was done in 1958, is still widely regarded as the most historically accurate movie. The title of the sinking. James Cameron. Yes, and the most financially successful, obviously, by far, has been James Cameron's Titanic, which is in 97, which became the highest-grossing film in history up to that time. I think there's only one now that's topped it. I don't remember what it was. It's out of time. So it's him as well. He's the top two. That's crazy. And it won 11 Oscars at the 70th Academy Awards,

including Best Picture and Best Director for him. So that's okay then, to lose to yourself, that's fine. But at the time it was, that he thought it was going to be a massive disaster. It was too, too big to fail. A bit of a Titanic. Titanic. That was going to be 250 million, I think it was the most expensive film ever made at that time and there were rumors that it was awful and that he was absolutely horrible to deal with as a director. I still hear that. And the people were worried that it was going to ruin Warner Brothers. They thought it was going to actually take them under. Yeah, but do you know what though? Like I think because they focused on the romance,

it saved it. If it was just a sorry about like, no, here we are on a ship, toot toot, oh wait we're dead. I mean, yeah if they did that I guess. I don't know, I think toot toot, we're dead was pretty good. That's the sub Titanic in brackets, toot toot with. A number of expeditions amounted to find Titanic but it wasn't until the first of September 1985 that a Franco-American expedition led by Robert Ballard succeeded. of expeditions amounted to find Titanic, but it wasn't until the 1st of September 1985 that a Franco-American expedition led by Robert Ballard succeeded. 1985. That is a certain time. So there were 70 years and no one touched, no knew it was there.

And they only found it just then. And many artifacts from the Titanic have been recovered from the seabed by RMS Titanic Inc, which is a company that exhibits them in touring exhibitions around the world and in a permanent exhibition. Now if you were going to have an exhibition permanently dedicated to the Titanic, where would you put it? Bell Farts. Bell Farts, maybe a good option, because it was a little bit of a hill. New York City.

New York City, or the door was going south end where it maybe took off from, what about Vegas? On the other coast of North America. Yeah, the desert. So it has a lot of connections to see really classy. Yeah It's in Vegas the Luxor Las Vegas hotel hang on at the Luxor at the Luxor which is the Egyptian themed That's the one that's shaped like a giant pyramid. Yeah Egyptian themed. That's the one that's shaped like a giant pyramid. Yeah. Welcome to Egypt slash Titanic 1912. Isn't that great? Oh no, that's weird.

That's my final fun fact. Was that a good one? That is really fun because it is so stupid. It's so dumb. So yeah. So yeah, that was my report on the Titanic. Oh my god. What an epic tale told in epic proportion. That was a report, people. That was great. That was really report on the Titanic. Oh my god, what an epic tale told in epic proportion that was a report, people.

That was great, that was really great, Jess. The pod episode is too big to fail. Yeah, too big to fail. I'm not just going to keep saying that, everything. What else you got? Try and flood five of our 15 compartments on this episode. I can't do it. If you think about how long did I take to sink the Titanic?

Only a couple of hours. A couple of hours. This episode, if you think about what you were doing at the start, when you started listening to this episode listener, until this point, that's about how long it took. Fuck. Bloody quick, isn't it? Bloody quick, hey?

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Thanks so much for listening guys. We'll be back with a brand new fresh report next week. Do you guys have anything else to say? Um, yeah, just keep it in your pants mate. Hey, that's advice. That is advice that they've been giving out since the Titanic in 1920. Really glad. I'd like to dedicate this episode to the mystery of Billy Zane. The bucket got through on scale as well. You didn't use the bucket. How do you feel Matt? Do you feel better now having heard that subject story? Yeah, it was a sweet distraction.

I fixed you, right? Yeah. I'm fixed. Okay. Trans fixed. More like it. Alright guys, thanks so much for watching. We will see you next week. Oh, you hear from us next week. Bye! Bye!

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