Two In The Think Tank - 336 - Shane Warne: The King of Spin

Episode Date: March 30, 2022

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Hey, mate, it's just Matt dropping in before we start the episode. You know, we're doing four live podcasts in Melbourne the following four Sundays. That's the 3rd, 10th, 17th and 24th of April, 8.45 at the European Beer Cafe. There's a ticket link and more details in the show notes.

But if you get a season pass, you get all four tickets for the price of three. That's a freaking bargain. So do yourselves a favour. It would be amazing to see you there hello and welcome to another episode of do go on my name is dave warner key and as always i'm here with matt stewart and jesskins. Hello, Dave and Jess. Hello, Dave. Hello, Dave.

Welcome to your Drive Time Commute. Am I doing it, Jess? Am I doing radio? Yeah, you're doing it. I'm doing it. You sounded a bit like the guy in the chopper doing the traffic report. And looking down there,

the traffic is banked up all the way down to Albert Park Lake. Perfect. Wow, that's a lot of traffic. Yeah, into the water. The traffic is banked up all the way down to Albert Park Lake. Perfect. Wow, that's a lot of traffic. Yeah, into the water. Hey, it's so good to be here on the Do Gone Podcast. We're having a great time. Life's good.

How are you two doing? When I'm saying we, I was talking about me apparently. We are good. We are feeling fresh, fit, healthy, fine. When I say we, I am, of course, just referring to myself. Dave, how are you doing? We are the best. We've never been better.

And by we, I mean you too, because I'm terrible. Okay, we have a quick question for you, Dave. Now, what is this show about for new listeners? This is a history slash comedy program where we take it in turns to report on a topic often suggested to us by one of our dear listeners. The person nominated for that week goes away, does a bit of research, brings it back to the other two, and they don't know what that person is going to talk about

and it's your turn, Matt, to be the reporter. And you always start with a question to get us onto topic. He does always do that, doesn't he? He always starts with a question. I cannot help myself. It's a fun quirk of yours. And your first question is usually, do you mind if I ask you a question and then a follow-up question my question this week is whose recent

autobiography is called no spin no spin no spin is it's got to be like a cricketer, right? Spin? Or someone in PR. Yeah, that's right. It could be... Or a dancer who could not spin. Wow. Okay, there's actually a lot of options here. Or it could be the biography of a planet rotating on its axis. Is it any of these?

Is it Piers Morgan? I'll give you one more clue. Their favourite song is The Scientist by Coldplay. Shane Warne. It is Shane Warne. Warne. Warne. I put this topic up to the vote with three recently passed away legends.

And, yeah, he came out on top. It was interestingly, one of the other ones was Neighbours, the TV show, which jumped out to an early lead. Yep. And then Shane Warne just reeled them in. Yeah, right. As he often did.

Yeah. Which I thought was interesting because I would have put up the vote Australian time. So maybe Australian listeners wanted Neighbours and then English and American, although probably not American listeners. No, American listeners love Neighbours. The third option was Ronnie of the Ronettes,

Ronnie Spector, who also polled very well. Everyone got votes. Tight race. So, Warnies, I think as far as i can tell in the hat only suggested by one listener isaac robinson really uh who said there's a question when you suggest topics into the hat uh why do you think this would be an interesting topic and isaac wrote because it's shane warne that's you're not wrong say no more um so yeah uh warning died recently suddenly so um been yeah it's been one you know it's always feels unearned when you feel yeah sad about a

celebrity dying i found out by taking my phone off flight mode and the message pops up from you, Jess, in our group chat saying, Shane Warne died. Yeah, that's how I found it as well. What? I woke up early one morning and looked on Instagram and people were posting about it. I was like, what the... I had to Google it because I was like, no way.

I also did the same thing. I was like, is this a bit? Yeah, I did too. A weird bit, but I was like, this can't be true. A morbid bit, Jess. Or has there been a horrific accident or what's happened? Do you know, I was like, this can't be true. A morbid bitch. Or has there been horrific accident or like what's happened? Do you know what? I used to roll my eyes a little bit when, you know,

big musicians or stuff would pass away and people would make sort of long Facebook posts about it and talking about their, I don't know. Sometimes I was like, you didn't know them. Like, okay. But I think I retract. I take that back actually because I think especially musicians but like, you know, different artists, actors, sports people, whoever it is, if they've had any kind of influence on you or if you grew up admiring them

or you just liked them as a person, especially when they die relatively young, it does feel really tragic and it makes you sort of think about your own mortality and it makes you think about a lot of different things. Yeah, he was, I think maybe that's part because he just was a larger than life guy you know which is a massive cliche but i think he just seemed like to me i'm like he's uh he's gonna live for he just felt i don't know why which is silly but he just seemed indestructible exactly it's the type of person that you uh expect to hear of their death at 99 years old and you know, yeah, okay.

He's killing his highest cricket score with a bat in Test cricket. I didn't mean to lead that discussion off the top. No, I kicked that off. No, I think all of that is interesting. And it was just, I mean, yeah, it just took me by surprise. You know, famous people die all the time, but it just really hit me hard. We were recording an episode that day as we and i was you know listening to the radio

and you could hear so many people who were on you know uh the sports station listening to scn what you know it was so raw for imagine having to go on to work and talk about a friend of yours and yeah awful um yeah it was very we'll probably just tweet about it if one of us dies that's probably the easiest yeah i'll do a tiktok one of those ones we're pointing to words it's like i'm mourning please respect me in this difficult time p.s jess dead and then that soundtrack. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.

And then a robot voice. Oh, no. I am sorry to report that Dave is now dead. So you have been spending some time on TikTok. Yeah, I've seen a few TikToks. I've seen a few. That's your comment if you want to follow me on there. Jess, what's yours? Jess underscore underscore Perkins.

Oh, double underscore. I'm looking forward to when you guys are superstars so I can join on there and get a little bit of off your coat. I think my followers are now in the hundreds. So just a warning, Dave. I might be catching limos around the place. I appreciate that. So this is a cricket topic, but i mean i'm trying to

keep the the quick he was a you know legend on the field but i'm not going to go into that i think i made that mistake in the bradman episode a bit where i might have talked too much cricket so feel free you two to jump in at any point if you think this is getting a bit baffling for americans or not cricket fans or whatever uh jump in at any point if you think we're not talking enough about cricket. Let me know. Well, that too. I mean, Dave, you are a big cricket fan.

I do like- I guess you would have grown up watching a bit of cricket. I don't know you as a cricket fan. No, it's not a sport I understand or particularly enjoy. Backyard cricket, sure. Yeah. I can hit- Tippity run.

Tippity. One hand, one bounce. I can hit a cricket ball with the bat. Yeah, over the fence. Left or right-handed. Wow. But yeah, it's not a sport I follow a great deal. And so like obviously Warnie's a household name in Australia in particular.

But I can't say I know a whole heap about the specifics of his career or about his early life or anything. Yeah, great. Well, yeah, I think I knew a big chunk of it and i learned more i've listened to his autobiography so what's it called it's called no spin even though he is a spin ball he's a spin baller and i feel like there is definitely spin in the book like he's definitely putting some positive spins on certain events but um you know as obviously you would in your own autobiography. And it was read by Rhys Muldoon.

Ooh. Who, you know, I quite enjoyed his performance. Rhys Muldoon's got a great voice. He's got a great voice. He sort of lowers it a bit. Because I also downloaded it as a PDF. And I noticed that he was saying wow a lot. And I'm like, wow.

You know, that's just how he reacted to things. And he said wow 22 times in the book, which I don't know if that's high, but it feels like a lot of wows. That's a lot of wows. When you work out that it's only 15 pages long, that's quite a lot of wows. Yeah. But it's not as much as Owen Wilson's autobiography,

which is actually called Wow. Wow. Is that true? Yeah. So, anyway, let's get into it. So this week's episode is about Shane Keith Warne, aka the Sheik of Tweak or the King or Hollywood or the Sultan of Spin or just plain Warne. Keith, what a name.

Keith, named after his old man. So Warne was born. Shane as well is great. Shane well as great i think the whole the whole they're all three tick tick tick for me shane keith warn warn he was born in the melbourne suburb of upper fern tree gully on the 13th of september 1969 nice uh to parents bridget and keith warn let's talk a little bit about Bridget, just because I found it interesting. He talked a lot about his parents and grandparents on both sides in the book.

And I started going down that path, and I'm like, I'll never get to his life if I... But anyway, so I'll talk... Here's a little bit about Bridget. She was born in Germany just after the war in 1946. And in his autobiography, Warren writes, her father was a polish refugee who when he was still a teenager ended up in germany on her grandparents cabbage farm his name was joey

and he worked his nuts off on their property just outside wesselburne it was there he met lottie they were married and had their first child my mum bridget a couple of years back mum and dad went to the wesselburen, went to find Wesselburen, and would you believe, they discovered that not only does it produce the most cabbages in Europe, it also has a cabbage museum, a cabbage festival, and every year somebody is crowned Miss Cabbage. Fact. I love the way the book's written.

It's so good. It wasn't long before my grandfather, Joey, my grandmother, Lottie, mom and her sister, Regina, had enough of living as cabbage farm refugees and did a runner all the way to Rome where they hoped to find a ship to America. Instead, they had to go further south to Naples. They found a ship there, all right, but the wrong one. And they all ended up coming to Australia. Apparently, the ships to the States were full.

So rather than wait a few months, bought into australia's land of opportunity and none of us are complaining australia's been a wonderful place for our family and i would have been a pretty ordinary baseballer shane i just don't think that's true no he could have done it he could have done it all uh yeah so i loved how the book was written it sounds like it's just warning having a chat yeah it's nice um which is probably because that's how it was written he met up with uh ex cricketer and journalist mark nicholas who and they just chatted about his life for a few years and then mark nicholas sort of just sorted it all into a book uh so i don't uh yeah i don't want to get bogged down in their grandparents stories but

if you if you are interested um it's worth it's worth a read or a listen that book i think it's good fun so it sort of jumps around a bit but it is good fun and i'm like oh wow and he's like and i just think that's great and there's a lot of and he is great what a guy so great this is all it's all very positive conversational yeah uh some of the stories he tells about his grandparents are pretty wild like how his grandpa joey whose real name was vladislaw schneck piak it's a polish name wow which i don't think i've nailed uh got swindled into swapping his house in geelong for a farm that was not equal in value he just got talked into it and he he moved. But according to Warne,

Dad reckons Joey was a difficult bloke with a bad temper. He used to get into fits of rage. For instance, he'd knock out a cow if it crapped on him while he was milking. He would be like, bang! And then headbutt it or punch it? He'd punch the cow and knock it out. Knock out a cow.

Wow. He would be like, bang! You've got to punch a cow pretty hard. You would be like punch a cow pretty hard you gotta bang a cow pretty hard to knock it out yeah that just feels like that's a like that's a story that's been exaggerated over the years but she sounds like a bit of a psycho anyway joey yeah but apparently he's a very good farmer how do we know this? Well according to Warren We knew he was a good farmer Because he was on the front Of one of the country magazines In Apollo Bay For ploughing an unploughable field

Imagine that Wow Can't argue with that either Unploughable field Well he ploughed it Joey ploughed it Doesn't look unploughable From where I'm standing

Prove that wrong On the other end of a fucking plough Bang What's that I can't plow back bang written all caps love that love that kind of uh storytelling how many times is the word bang written throughout this book 22 banks i'd control if that in the pdf i reckon let's find that one out bang so warren died recently it was it's unconfirmed, but a suspected heart attack at the age of 52. I got a bit of a chill when I read about how Joey died, as Warren writes.

Out of nowhere, in the early 1980s, a massive heart attack killed him. He just caved in. And about three years later, my grandmother passed, both of them in their mid to late 50s. Oh, wow. So, this is clearly a, well, I mean it's it seems like it's a you know a congenital yeah thing you know like this is some people talking assuming that he was uh it was a coke binge or something but he's he's never done drugs in his life yeah which is

you know people seem to be surprised with that he's like he was away on a health kick yeah if anything he probably yeah they're saying that um his uh juice diet probably was bad for his heart maybe right like he was sort of his diet yeah trying to be healthy but he was doing it in a maybe in a bit of a form you're saying drugs good juice bad but i'm not saying anything i'm just giving you information that I vaguely know. And you draw your own conclusions. Can I offer you some ecstasy? Yes.

But I will not be washing it down with pineapple juice. I have pineapple juice in the fridge. It's so good. Actually, I will be washing it down. Delicious. Here's a quick fun fact. Oh, Jess, you can tell me if it's a fun fact or not. And I didn't know this.

Warren was born with heterochromia giving him a blue right eye and a green left eye i never noticed that and now since i read that you know it's you know you notice it but what a cool i wonder if it's a bit less noticeable because it's blue and green and they're a bit more similar rather than yeah because you see that a little bit i didn't uh no i didn't realize that that's cool i always thought that bowie saying, you probably talked about that when you did a report on him, but his was, it looks like that, but it was because one eye got injured. Yeah.

One of the pupils was always dilated or something. Anyway, let's get into Warnie's life. So when still young, Warnie moved with his family to Hampton in the southeastern suburbs of Melbourne. And around these bayside suburbs is where Warnie would call home for the majority of the rest of his life.

In a playground accident when only three and a half years old, Warnie suffered multiple broken bones. He wrote about it briefly in his autobiography, No Spin, saying, I quote from it a little bit in the report, some kid at nursery jumped off a mound and landed on my legs. Snap. Bang. Was this all caps? Is it good and landed on my legs. Snap. Bang.

Was this all caps? Was it good? Yeah. Snap, crackle, pop. Bang. Bang. When I got out of hospital, I was plastered

from neck to knee. It was a spiral fracture and nothing was supposed to move for months during the healing period. So I lay flat on a trolley and scooted around the house. Amazing.

Russell Jackson, writing for the ABC, said, Warren later became convinced the upper body strength he developed in these times went some way towards the magic he later produced with a cricket ball in hand. So that's his Spider-Man moment. Yeah. Interesting. A kid just jumping off a mound.

You just would have got him in the wrong spot. Yeah. Ow. Ouch. Bang. Warne was an okay cricketer in his teens. He was also good at tennis, at one point being ranked third in Victoria for his age group.

Wow. So he was having to make decisions all the time about which one to focus on. So for a year he focused on tennis, and that was when he got right up the rankings. But his true love was footy. According to Chris Payne, writing for the Sydney Morning Herald, Warne grew up with one goal on his mind,

to become a star for his beloved St Kilda Football Club. That doesn't seem to be true because he grew up back in Fort Hawthorne. But anyway, I found that there's so many things written about him that just don't seem to be fact-checked that much, which is really interesting. I don't know why that is, but, yeah,

there's all these little things that just aren't quite right. He did become a Saints, lifelong Saints fan, but that was after he was a Hawthorne fan as a kid. So after seeing him play for Mentone Boys' grandma, he was invited down to Moorabbin to play with the Saints under-19 side. And this is, you know, once he got involved with the club, that's why he started. He even said, he was like,

I started getting to know some of the other players. I'm like, I probably should go for them now. Yeah, I mean, I guess it makes sense. Yeah, I guess so, yeah. You are playing for them. Yeah. I guess if I had a close friend, like a very close friend, who played in a

footy team i'd be like all right i'll go for it i'll go for the team you know trevor barker who's like a legendary saints player he was like the best and first of the saints is named after him so he was a someone he had a poster on his wall over you he looked up to him growing up and then when he was at uh morab and barker was the one who gave him the nickname hollywood apparently it'd be wild for trevor barker who was like famously flamboyant blonde yeah guy to be like oh here we go hollywood what are you you're calling me hollywood thank you i guess but have a look at the mirror i also love the idea of morabin's version of hollywood which is what they both sort of were which i like

to think of me as well being a bit of a bit of slice of hollywood in morabban growing up yeah uh he ended up at mentone grammar on a sports scholarship this came about because he dominated against them in cricket and football so they poached him like two he played football kicked 10 goals against them and then he played cricket Took six wickers or something And hit 60 runs So they're like You should You should run to our school Come here

Come here It would be better if you were on our team We've written down two ways to take you out One is draft you The other is kill you So what do you reckon? What do you reckon Warnie? What do you reckon Hollywood?

He got into a bit of trouble at school At one point a teacher hit him across the face with a hard-covered textbook oh it's a different time yeah so they could really belt kids back so yeah this is sort of early early to mid 80s i guess that's too late for that to be happening isn't that wild yeah my dad will tell stories about you know getting hit in the knuckles at boarding school in the 60s. 80s, too recent. Yeah, it's almost surprising.

Although, I mean, it was still around in the 90s. I remember I never got hit, but my cousin, who was a couple of years above, told the teacher to fuck off. And she smashed him with a ruler on the hand. She was an old school. She had the hangover of it. So she used to do it and would have been like, just instinct would have been,

we were allowed to do this 10 years ago. Bang. Fucking hell. Did she get in trouble? I don't think so, no. I probably was told not to do that. We don't really do that anymore. Yeah, of course.

Sorry about that. Yeah, sorry. It just slipped. So, yeah. So, he gets smashed in the face with this hard-covered textbook. In retaliation, according to Warren in his book, I got up and was looking for something to throw at him and saw a hardback duster.

It hit him straight in the balls. There was a big white outline of the duster on his pants and everyone in the class was laughing predictably he sent me to the principal keith jones it was a decent bloke i admitted that i was being a smart ass in class disruptive and disinterested but i also said that the teacher couldn't belt me across the face and get away with it jones said that what i'd done was no good. You know the routine, Warren. Pull up your blazer, pull your pants down. I'm going to practice my golf swing on you. Then not for the first time, he gave me six of the best. Six smashings on the ass with a cane. A few of us used to get caned a

bit by Jones and in the end we worked out a plan. Sometimes we'd wear four or five pairs of jocks because we figured that if we got sent out of class, we were going to get the cane. The extra padding was just in case we got hammered. That was. That's fucked. Like, it happened so frequently that they had to plan around it. But his mum's like, Shane, why am I washing 48 pairs of jocks away? Yeah.

Apparently, she saw the welts one of these times. And he said this in the book. He said something like, she was like, look, you probably deserved it. But when she talked to him, she's like, I get it. He probably deserves hitting. But does it have to be that full on? Yeah. Like, can we take it down a notch?

Maybe three hits. Maybe hit my boy three times with a cane. But interestingly Following that paragraph He basically says I know that might be a bit full on But I reckon they've gone too far the other way Oh shame

He had like The other A lot of sort of Old school You know I got hit as a kid And I turned out alright If I was his mum

I'd be turning up at that school With a flamethrower. Eye for an eye, motherfucker. You know the drill. Drop your pants. I'm going to practice my golf swing. Isn't that just like a spine-chilling phrase to hear from a teacher, an adult teacher in a room privately where you'd pull your pants down, mate?

It's like like what the fuck yeah absolutely not okay but yeah it is crazy isn't it that like you're so conditioned to that being normal and a thing that just happens that even as an adult to go ah you know i turned out all right it's like you would have turned out all right regardless you didn't turn out all right because you got smacked and there's possibly things that are lingering yeah because of this that aren't that healthy i mean who knows but yeah it's interesting because i know a lot of people who think that way but i think that happens every generation every generation always thinks the next generation is getting a bit too soft yeah that might not have happened when uh the kids were going off to wars uh and the older ones

are going these fucking kids yeah but i don't know bloody days since then every generation has sort of been like they're getting as kids are getting it too soft i don't say that about the next ones under under my generation i feel sorry for them yeah yeah just the i like i had social media in school but we didn't have smartphones that's true this is that is the other side of it you'll hear people going i'm glad i'm so fucking glad um but to them it's just normal so they're not they're not feeling they need your pity at all they're like we're dealing with the phone this is just like i'm on instagram i would have hated to have not had it i can't believe you dealt with life without it.

But yeah, I do have that feeling sometimes as well. But that is just on a view getting really old. Yeah. No, that's been happening for a while. It sounds like the Saints under-19s coach, Darryl Nisbet, had some full-on disciplinary methods at the time as well. Some mentioned by Warren were athletically brutal, like having to sprint and climb over a wall and then another sprint and then sprint back to the wall,

climb back over the wall, sprint back. And they'd have to do that once for every point they were beaten by. And in Aussie rules, a bad loss could be by 100 points or more. And he's like, sometimes they were doing it for hours and hours. Oh, my God. At the end, they were doing it for hours and hours oh my god at the end they had to drop their pants and he practices golf swing yeah six of the best other methods of his were a little more unusual what for instance according to warn one night when they rocked up to training these are in warn's words we got to the club ready to go and

daryl said righto guys no training tonight we're all gonna run down to the morabin pub and we're gonna drink six pots which is about three pints and run straight back we'll see which of you guys throws up which of you guys is tough and which of you guys can handle it that's masculinity all right young teenagers let's run to the pub drink drink, sink a lot of piss, and whoever throws up is weak. That's ridiculous. That's so weird. That's ridiculous. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. No.

In my fittest, at my absolute prime, I would throw up. Of course I fucking would. You're also drinking it really fast. That just sounds like you're not tough. You're not tough enough. Hang on. You're not going to make it. Actually, you might be right.

That's probably it. Yeah. But then the coach is like, I just don't know why we keep losing by 100 points. I just don't know. It was weird that the Saints had an awful decade in the 80s. I think we won. Yeah, I think I was saying it recently.

We won like five or six wooden spoons. So anyway, Warren goes on. So we ran about one and a half Ks to the pub, drank the beers, and as fast as we could and then sprinted back that was our session then daryl said right oh boys come back tomorrow with a better attitude come back tomorrow hungover so wait what what bad i love the idea that he's like right oh boys lesson learned i hope Wait what? What lesson? What was the lesson? We turned up and you said Run to the pub What? Who's paying for these beers?

Don't make me repeat myself Do I have to run with my wallet? Warne continues In 1988 I trained with the seniors A couple of times a week for three months It was fantastic Training alongside players Who've become greats of the game

Trevor Barker Nicky Winmar And Tony Lockett Who in my opinion Was the best become greats of the game. Trevor Barker, Nicky Winmar and Tony Lockett, who in my opinion was the best player to ever play the game. Plugger, who we did a bonus episode, Patreon episode a while back on. People would, if you want to know, just... They'd remember that one.

Oh, they'd remember. Live in Manchester. Yeah. The Manchester crowd understood what a legend I was talking about. I've never seen so many people look at me so confused. And I've seen a lot of people look at me confused. That night we also spoke about the Sims. Yeah, I was going to say, I talked about the Sims that night.

And Danny Deckchair. And Lawnchair Larry. Okay, Lawnchair Larry. Close enough. Close enough. Warren says, I finished the year as leading goal kicker in the under-19s. It was an amazing time and my footy dreams were shaping up pretty well.

So, he was full forward, almost like an understudy to plugger, and he was doing well, leading goal kicker. I mean, you look like you're an assured player if you're the leading goal kicker. Yeah, you do, right? In the under-19s. So, they don't have the under-19s anymore, but I think what it was was basically like the thirds. It's sort of like a three-tiered system.

The young recruits play in the under-19s, and they go up to the reserves, and then from the reserves up to the first. So after kicking seven goals one week, which is a big bag, he was called up to the reserves team alongside future St. Kilda legend and games record holder Robert Harvey. He got the call from the coach. He was cook that week in bed with some sort of a flu or something.

COVID. It could have been early COVID. He was patient zero. I'm going to do that every time. So the... The COVID. Oh, yeah. The COVID.

The way he tells it. She came down with the Spanish fluke, COVID. Oh. That was a COVID, wasn't it? That's a weird word for COVID. Yeah. Was that COVID one? So then the... Apparently, the way he remembers it,

he was about to call the coach, like, I can't play for the 19s this week. But as he was going to, he got the call and said, we're bringing you up to the reserves this week, you know, to play with the adults. The big bringing you up to the reserves this week you know to play with the the adults the big boys he'd be like fuck and he was like okay great you know it was his big chance um oh no but this is from his book he didn't have a great game saying the truth is that i wasn't good enough not a mile off but in the end not good enough that's hard to take it went deep

like my soul had been ripped out i was in love with the afl but the game was not in love with me oh warning oh shane so he played on milhanna and milhanna just tore him apart milhanna ended up being you know like a carlton great um in early 1989 he received a letter from the club saying his services were no longer required. I was the leading goal kicker for under-19s. Yeah, isn't it? It's a wild draw. He was feeling like everything was going to plan.

Imagine if that letter took a few days to arrive and you were turning up at training and they were like, oh, he hasn't got the letter yet. Yeah, he's just pretending. Why didn't we just give it to him at training? That was so stupid. But then he gets the letter and he's like, I drank six pots and I didn't vomit once.

This idiot over here vomited four times. Get rid of him. Well, keep that in mind. They were getting him to scald beers when I read this next thing. According to Jackson, club honchos thought he was too fat and slow. The club cut him loose and the disappointment stung. So they cut him for being too fat. At training, they were making him scull beers.

Anyway, Jackson goes on. You're fat and slow because you're full of beer. It's just sloshing around in your guts. Slosh, slosh, slosh, slosh. Till his last days, Warne admitted he would rather have been a premiership winning centre-half forward than a spin wizard. But it turned out the chunky legs and broad chest

that weighed him down on a football field were well suited to the short bursts of strength and velocity required of a good spinner. Yeah, it's interesting, right? He made it like the absolute pinnacle of a world game cricket or, you know, more of a world game than Australian rules football anyway. But he always would have preferred to play footy. Wow, I didn't know that.

At the age of 19, Warne was playing for the first XI side for St Kilda Cricket Club. So the first XI players on a cricket team. This is for the Americans. I gun to my head couldn't have told you how many cricket... 12th man. That's sort of the spare guy brings on the drinks right so there's 11 on the field yeah and you can remember that because i was the

13th man of course which is a made-up position because they felt sorry for me at my high school that's fair enough so there's 22 people on is it 11 on each team yeah so 22 on a field oh no only two batting at a time. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, but the others are out there for support. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. So is he playing, is it because footy's over his guy on the cricket or he's doing both the whole time?

He was always doing both. He was playing both and he was handy at cricket, but it just wasn't a passion. He didn't really get it. He wasn't fanatical about it at all he would play in the backyard he said he would um he you know he'd he'd pretend to be australian cricketers a bit in the backyard playing with his brother and stuff but bowl a golf ball up against the uh he was the passion yeah yeah um yeah so st kilda creek club is a district cricket club in Victoria.

So basically one level below playing for the state. And that's one level below playing nationally. Yes, that's right. And nationally is the highest. That's one level below playing in space. Yeah, yeah. Playing for Earth, the Earth 11. Warnie would have been good enough to play for Earth 11.

Oh, he would have played for Earth. Don't you even worry about that. Mate, Warnie would have been good enough to play for Earth Oh he would have played for Earth Don't you even worry about that Mate Warnie would have bowled for Earth Imagine what he could have done in like zero gravity somewhere Oh my goodness The drift he would have got in space So around this time he went to England for a year It just seems like a bit of a whim.

One of his mates was going over there, and like a lot of Aussie cricketers do, he spent a summer over in the English summer. Yeah, that's true. Not just cricketers, just in general. London, filled with Aussies. This is back to his book saying, I joined up with the Imperial Club in Bristol.

I was 19 years old and began to hang out with a bunch of great guys who loved a beer and taught me how to drink a pint. We're talking truckloads of them. I was 79 kilograms on the scales when I left Oz, and I came back 99 kilos. I learned to drink, play cricket, and, well, a few other things about life, too. Not sure what he means by that, but, you know.

He fucked over there. I think he's talking about losing the virginity. He lost his virginity. And that's okay. And you know he did because he's real cool about it yeah he just says a few other things wink and see that's the thing like that's how as dave would say exactly this is how we know dave yeah definitely has it because he like off the pod he's always saying he's like oh i've done it oh come on i've done a little. Oh, yeah. Come on. Yeah, I have. Shut up and stuff like that. Whereas, like, Warren is being, like, cool and chill about it.

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There's a lot of cricket, like three, four, sometimes even five games a week, which allows you to bowl so many overs in such different conditions and circumstances. You learn about yourself and your game. It's a terrific experience. So you're still talking about cricket? Still talking about cricket. Three or four or five times a week. It was great.

That's too much. You learn a lot of cricket. You learn a lot about yourself. That's too much cricket. And I'm talking about both types of cricket. You learn a lot about yourself. That's too much cricket. And I'm talking about both types of cricket. Both have 11 on the field. But only two batting. I was the 13th man watching.

Bringing out the drinks. I'm not sure what we're talking about. I was there for six months and played 70 or 80 games. In Australia, it would take you four or five years to play that many games. So I fast-tracked my learning and, as well as unraveling how to drink 10 pints, I got to understand my craft a little more. Craft beer. He's an early craft beer.

Yeah, you think about like flying hours, the amount of time you spend practicing something. Yeah, 10,000 hours. Yeah, exactly. So if he's playing a lot of cricket, you are going to get really good really quick. Yeah, he put it in those exact terms. He talked about his 10,000 hours

and how playing over there helped him get there a lot quicker than he would have otherwise. Yeah. How interesting just to be able to like six months. What was the, it would take you a few years. He reckons, yeah, it would have taken four or five years for the same amount of games. How crazy is that?

Which is like half a career. Yeah, exactly. For a lot of players. Something else that's really interesting is that leg spin at this time was basically, it was a dying art. It just didn't really exist in world cricket anymore. It's obviously something we all understand

and know what it is. Well, you know, it's obviously something we all understand um and know what it is well you you know it's slower bowling where the uh the ball is made to turn yep um so rather than just straight out pace which uh was the the big thing in world you know and still always will be but it was the only thing back then apparently you know the west indies uh and you know before that Lillian Thompson in Australia fast bowling was king and then so he was coming in at quite an interesting time basically people like there won't be leg spinners in there were hardly any around even interesting so back in Australia he went on to play again with St Kilda Cricket Club, where he was spotted and invited to the Australian Institute of Sports Cricket Academy under coach Jack Potter.

According to Jackson, in April 1990, Warne arrived in typical style at the academy. Colleagues there at the academy, Justin Langer and Damien Martin, future Australian players, spotted him taking down a family-sized pizza in a can of EB. Warne's eventual expulsion seems inevitable in hindsight he would always chafe at the system but potter had time enough to teach him his lethal flipper a key addition to the bag of tricks that eventually shook the cricket world the flipper of is a it's kind of his iconic ball that's his signature ball

it's one that sort, he clicks his fingers almost and it just skids on fast and low. Yeah, wow. I think that's hopefully, last time I tried to explain cricket, cricket people came at me. Sure. And said, you said all that stuff wrong. I'm halfway between you, Jess, and hardcore cricket fans.

Okay. I've watched a lot of it. You're a cricket fan. I'm a casual cricket fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. fans okay i've watched a lot of it i'm a casual cricket fan yeah yeah uh so if you said something wrong um and you and you are a hardcore cricket fan listening please correct okay shut up please correct you shut up um but anyway yeah the flipper that that was that was his iconic ball it was also the iconic move in the uh australian film a cracker jack oh yeah right which is exactly that

would have been yeah and was called the flipper yeah uh yeah i think so yeah so that would have that would have definitely been a reference to warning he was trying to spin yeah there you go very funny mick mulloy what a film what a good stuff uh wayne hope probably yeah i haven't seen in a while but i should watch that again um so jackson said there that warren was expelled but in his book he says he quit okay it's like wow there's all these things that are just uh commonly reported differently to how he tells it um and he tells it in a lot more detail, so I kind of take his word for it a bit. Yeah, okay. The Academy group were all up in Darwin on a training camp, staying at a hotel when Warren was sent home for mooning other guests

from the hotel pool. And he's writing that? Yeah. He's saying I was mooning people in the pool. He didn't say moon, he said brown eyes. Look, I did a few brown eyes. So he was in the pool or people were in the pool. He didn't say moon, he said brown eyes. Look, I did a few brown eyes. Was he, so he was in the pool or people were in the pool? He was in the pool and

he ended up partying with some girls up the top, but he opened that conversation with a brown eye, I believe, from the pool. That's beautiful. I mean, obviously it worked. Yeah, you know, it's hard to have a good opener, but that's it. So he's got a brown eye and a blue and a green eye.

He's got them all. Ladies, what do you want? I've got them all. That's the real hat trick. So, yeah, so the next day he was called in by the academy management. They're like, what are you doing? You can't do that. We've had complaints.

So they go, we're sending you home. And he's like, okay. He's like, are you going to take me to the airport? And they said, no, you're catching the bus back to Adelaide. The bus from Darwin to Adelaide. Which took over 40 hours. And it was one of those like a tourist bus that's stopping in every... Oh, my God....every gift shop town. I mean, but is there any mode of transport that lends itself better to brown-eyeing people?

Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Doing 40 hours with... But what are you brown-eyeing out there? Camels? Not a lot of traffic out there, Dave. No. That's straight through the centre of Australia.

That's right. That's just desert. Which, I mean mean it's oh it'd be incredible but not in that way not on a bus where it's just going straight there no stops and no so you know he there's no money in cricket back then so he was broke he didn't have any money to be you know stopping along the way or anything so he gets back and then so the academy was based in adelaide they'd go to this place. Their accommodation

wasn't on site like I think it would be now. The accommodation was above a pub. So that's where these young 20-year-old, 19, 20-year-old guys, they just grouped together.

They're having breakfast down the pub with a beer. Yeah. All our young guys have drinking problems and we just don't know why.

Figure it out. So he gets back there now by himself and he's like, just don't know why. Figure it out. So he gets back there now by himself and he's like, I don't know what I, you know, he was sort of getting up, playing some pool, he said, and he's like, and he just quit. He's like, this isn't for me. It's not working out. And he quit.

Yeah. So I think as I was writing this report, at this point I've written a note Some of this is going to sound like gibberish To some people Brackets Americans I'm going to try and avoid

Using too much lingo On inside baseball stuff Baseball I don't understand the baseball For Australian people Baseball is kind of like American cricket Yeah

That's right They love it over there Don't they They love their American cricket. They hold the bats funny, don't they? What are they doing? It's Australia and America's pastime. So around this time,

Warren hooked up with Terry Jenner, who would go on to become his mentor, who was a guy who did a bit of spin bowling for Australia on and off, I think maybe in the 70s. According to Jackson, Jenner was a former test leg spinner who'd fallen on hard times, serving 18 months in jail for embezzlement. It didn't bother Warne, who sensed a kindred spirit.

Jenner became his spin whisperer, and their fortunes rose in tandem. Warne was selected to play for Victoria in the 1990-91 Sheffield Shield season, the state cricket season, one level below playing for Australia. He took only one wicket on debut, but as there weren't many young Australian spin bowlers at the time, because it was a dying art, he was selected for the Australian B team's tour of Zimbabwe. In his book, he's like, Zimbabwe, I love Zimbabwe,

great country. At the time, their president, Mugabe, he was ruining it. But he's gone now and it's a lot better. I love how he just summed it up so eloquently. So eloquently. He was no good, I reckon. Yeah. He was a bit crook.

He's gone. But he's gone and it's lovely. He's like, it's a great country, but there's a real bozo in charge. He's like, it's a great country, but there's a real bozo in charge. In 1992, Warne would become a shock inclusion for the Australian team against India and Sydney in January of 1992 after playing only seven first-class games. Wow. So playing for Victoria a handful of times,

not really setting the world on fire, but there just weren't many options around. Sydney has been as wicket traditionally. Some of you don't know cricket. Different grounds sort of have different... How would you describe it? Different conditions for bowling. Yeah, so back in the day,

I think the Australian wickets have sort of come a bit more middle ground, all of them, but Perth used to be fast and bouncy. Sydney span. Span? Spun? Spun. So Shane Warner's a famous spanner. Span?

He spanned with the best of them. I'm losing my mind. No span? Span. Oh, no. We've got so long to go. And also some wickets Like famously deteriorate

Over the Because they play over five days That's right So you want to bat first Because by the fifth day There's all these cracks In the pitch That if the ball hits it

It bounces all over the place And the batter's like Oh I don't know what I'm doing Yeah you get less consistent bounce And then there's all the foot marks From the days of bowling and batting At each end of the pitch. So spinners have more areas to aim for to get extra grip and turn on the ball.

So it just becomes harder to bat usually. Although the recent series in Pakistan, at least the early games were very different from that. It was just they called them like roads. It was just batting wickets and led to boring draws. Anyway. Pick up a game, Pakistan. First international tour in decades. Yeah, and they just made boring wickets strange.

But hey, sorry about that. I didn't mean to get political. I hate it when you get political. The selection was even a shock to Warne. So he gets called up to play for Australia. Is he about to call his coach and call in sick for the Victorian game? Actually, Warne, we need you on the plane because you're playing for the country. Oh, great.

Great, perfect. Great. Going to need some Sudafed. I think I've got COVID. At the prior match in Melbourne at the MCG, Warnie was there as a spectator, and he bumped into the Australian team manager, Ian McDonald. Warnie had three pies under his right arm

and a beer under his left when McDonald said, go easy, mate, you might be playing in Sydney. And Warnie thought he was just joking, but he wasn't. And he found out later, he's like, oh, bloody hell. So that's how Warnie tells that story. Three pies and a beer. And he's like, I thought he was joking joking, but he wasn't. And he found out later, he's like, oh, bloody hell. That's how Warnie tells that story. And he's like, I thought he was joking, so I ate those three pies. Yeah, good one. Then I went back for some chippies.

On debut, Warn took the big wicket of opening batsman Ravi Shastri, but not before Shastri had smashed a double century. He got, you know, plundered all over the park. And he finished his first match with the unimpressive figures of one for 151. So that means one wicket for 151 runs. That's right. Yeah, he took out one batsman, but they scored 150 runs against his bowling directly. Despite the inglorious debut, Warne was finding a passion for cricket,

which is wild, as he was already playing at the highest level. And he's finding a passion. He's like, I'm finding a passion. You know what? This is all right. This is all right. It's another thing that's slightly contradictory in something he said, because he clearly had a kind of a blessed rise to the top.

And at one point he says that now players are don't players are expecting to be just get to the top real quick you used to have to earn your stripes he's saying he's not realizing in his own story he got to the top so quickly yeah without even really wanting to be there yeah but i guess he's talking about younger players who are maybe complaining about having to wait but still yeah you can't all expect to just play seven state games and go to the top level uh looking for guidance warren drove to adelaide to visit his mate new mate terry jenna on a whim he packed a slab picked up a slab of beer on the way as well as a speeding fine when he arrived warren said to j Jenna, I want to learn the passion.

Warren said to Jenna, when there's a full stop, you normally stop and restart. But I just thought I'd plow through then. He said, I want to learn. The passion is bubbling and I'll do whatever it takes. I want to learn the passion is bubbling. Warnie, slow down. And according to Warren in his book, book He says TJ gave it to me He just ripped into me like you wouldn't believe

What the hell he said? You're overweight Fat actually You've got no discipline And you think you're better than you are You don't deserve to play for Australia Some guys used to dominate state cricket And never got picked

Others, me for one Would get a game here and there And then get binned You've got some amazing talent But I question one, would get a game here and there and then get binned. You've got some amazing talent, but I question your commitment. You got a game for Australia because there's no one else out there right now. You're a lucky boy, all right, but you're not that good. Not yet anyway, although you could be. So let's get serious. Put the beers back in the car, all two dozen of them, and tomorrow take them back to the bottle shop while you're with me there's no beers

actually put them in the fridge for another time it's like that's now that's storytelling i love that that is okay so when my brother was 18 and he got his motorbike license and came home with a motorbike it was that same sort of tone from dad of you are not riding a motorbike. They are incredibly dangerous. I am very disappointed in you. Can I have a go, please? And then dad got a motorbike and they'd go riding together. Really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was that same sort of tone of, no, I am very upset at you. Give us a go. Yeah, sort of midway going, actually, sounds a bit of fun. Yeah. Can I come along i'm being a hypocrite i had one when i was your age so warn expected to visit jenna just for a couple of days but it turned into six weeks and an intense training course where warny got back

into shape and continued his education in the art of leg spin bowling in the biopic this will be a training montage yeah big time with eye of big time. With Eye of the Tiger. Yeah. Or something else inspiring. He kept saying he got up and he'd go for a run and he didn't even have a ciggy before he went. Didn't even have a ciggy before he went for a run. No darts.

You're kidding. He said for the first time he got off the couch, didn't have a dart before he went for a run. Wow. And he kept that up. During that six-week period, he went to Merv Hughes' wedding, went sober. Like, he took it real serious that's great but it's another it's seeming like slight misconception about him

he would drink a lot sometimes but he said he'd go for weeks without drinking through his life it's not it's not like a thing he had to have yeah but when he went out he would often have quite a few he would binge drink he'd binge drink yeah he'd go and drink 29 beers yeah i don't know yeah he did yeah maybe um he although something he said later on he would drink his drink of choice out at pubs and stuff would be vodka red bulls oh yeah that can't be your session beer your session drink can't be red bull i did i've made that mistake once drink can't be Red Bull. I've made that mistake once. I can't believe he stuck with it. He obviously never went too far, but shit. Warne remained in the national squad

and had a few decent matches through the rest of 1992, including taking seven wickets against the West Indies at the MCG. But it wasn't until the 1993 Ashes Series in England when Warne truly arrived on the international stage, most famously with the first delivery of the series, now known simply as The Gatting Ball, aka The Ball of the Century. You familiar with this one, Bob?

No. You know it? Yeah, would you have seen it over the last couple of months as tributes for Warnie? Probably. Maybe. Do you want to watch it quickly? I'm curious to see if it's

to me i mean it just it just is uh it's a thing of beauty and so this is his first ball of the ashes and for people at home the ashes is like the series uh series that england plays against australia and there's a lot of rivalry so it drifts left to right in the air wow pitches outside leg stump and then spins back and and takes the off stump look at his face wow so that that went on to be known as the ball of the century which warren calls a bit of a fluke he's like you know normally it takes a bit of time to warm up again you know and he just it just came out perfect and it was yeah just a ridiculous ball um i'll post i'll post that video to the social medias awesome according to jackson the funny thing about what followed uh this is the english tour was that england didn't even plan for warn he was held

back from the one day international preliminary preliminary matches and instructed by his captain alan border not to deploy his full arsenal in tour games so he just border apparently took him aside so they play a lot of these games leading up against universities and county sides and stuff and border said to him no matter what only bowl leg breaks don't bowl your your flipper don't bowl your Romans, don't show them your tricks. Yeah, because then they can sort of prepare to defend that or, you know, how to deal with that. Exactly, yeah, yeah. Or if he's taking nine wickets a match,

they'll start to notice him a bit more. That's right, and be like, assuming he was definitely going to play, because as it was, England didn't even think he was going to be playing. They're like, he hasn't been taking many wickets. No one really, there's no real leg spin bowlers. you keep him in your back pocket until you really need something yeah and then he comes out and blows him away um but instead he was just too good to straight away yeah amazingly just on the very first balls uh so jackson goes on instead he used his first delivery to baffle his opponent tilt the momentum of the series irreversibly in favor of Australia, and cause a mini revolution in the game.

Gatting has absolutely no idea what has happened to it, said commentator Richie Beno, and still doesn't know as he was walking off the ground. I've watched the ball a bunch of times recently. It's so good to watch. Yeah, just the way... Like how it moved in multiple ways it's just freaky it's amazing uh the caption to a photo i saw yesterday from moments

after the ball photo of gadding says mike gadding looks despondently at his stumps it was just the photos just seem like i don't know what happened What happened? It was all so fast I came out here to bat And then what the fuck was that? It must take ages To put all those pads on and stuff Hey It must be so annoying

You get out there And you're like Get fucked Now I've got to take it all off It takes ages What a waste of time Give us a hand would you? It's a weird spot

I can't It's hard to do Can't get out on first ball Oh my god there's a classic backyard rule yeah especially from the from the ultra competitive uncle can't get out first ball the best one yeah can't get out first ball definitely came up one time my dad made a fatal error uh and it was because my on my mom's side of the family and the grandkids there's 10 boys and two girls there's only two of us and so

I was playing cricket with all the boys and dad was batting, I caught dad out and he said you can't get caught out by a girl What? And my mum is one of like seven mum's one of seven so there's all of these

women who just turned and stared at him. And I'm sitting there like, what the fuck? And he goes, I bet you can't get caught out by your daughter. First, we're all like, you're out. He's just stretching for a while. He's like, I'm stuffed up, I have. Can't get caught by a Libran or whatever your cell phone is. It was like, dad, you're out.

Nothing about his eight-year-old catching it. Yeah. None of that. That's good parenting, I reckon. I reckon that's the kind of thing that would make you feel like your contribution was worthwhile and you should step up. It was good that I was playing. He probably remembers that story quite differently.

Sorry, dad. Luckily, it's on video and we'll upload it to YouTube. So Jackson continues. sorry dad luckily it's on video and we'll upload it to youtube uh so uh jackson continues from that moment shane warren was a superstar of world cricket when that perfect leg break fizzed past gadding and took the bails the dying art of leg spin became the most captivating spectacle in the game or more accurately warren did there was no sight and sport like the shanene show. The sense of anticipation as he removed his cap, adjusted his shirt sleeve and shaped a bowl. The change in the game's mood, the adjustment of the batsman's body language, the whirring of the ball as it arced through the air, the ridiculous angles of the spin he extracted on pitches around the world.

How it must have delighted Benno, a past master of the craft. His commentary of Warren's most famous moment held true thereafter. Batsmen simply didn't know what had happened to them. That's pretty wild sort of couple of paragraphs. Yeah, really well written. But he is true. Like as a kid, when he came into bowl, he just got excited. Yeah. And yeah, just you knew something was about

to happen those players don't come along all that often in all sports yeah so when somebody's like really exciting to watch that's amazing yeah it's so cool imagine being that person yeah it would be hard to deal with i think totally yes especially because it's come out of nowhere for him yeah his rise he's still really young. Yeah, he's in his early 20s. And he was saying he was all of a sudden, you know, in England. He couldn't go anywhere without being hounded. He's like, everywhere I went, it felt like everything had changed. Wow.

Overnight. So, yeah, it was a lot to deal with. He said himself that he had a kind of sheltered childhood. He's like, I hardly went to any parties. Yeah. And, you know, we just lived at home and played sport. But, yeah, just all of a sudden he's a superstar on both sides of the world. Crazy.

All two sides of the world. All two sides. Both England and Australia. Yeah. The whole world. I know. I mean, massive in India and, yeah, people loved watching him play.

Warne went on to take the most wickets in that Ashes series with 34, three more than fellow Victorian Big Murph Hughes, who I interviewed on The Beer Pioneer, if people want to check that out. That's right. I forgot about that. Once we had to ask him to move his car. To Murph his car.

We were real nervous. Can you Murph your car, Mr. Excuse can you move your car mr could you move your car yeah because he was at uh the old stupid old studios recording some crickets commentary that's right that was so fun that day like what a guy um yes so anyway warren's position in the australian team Was well and truly locked in at this stage I'm not gonna Because he played for You know Nearly two decades At the top level

So I'm not gonna go into too much I'm gonna summarise it a bit Or Use Jackson's summary here I feel like in the Bradman episode I might have talked too much about his cricket stuff. Maybe. I mean, he was

a very famous cricketer. Yeah, so it was probably something you would have to mention. That's fine. As is Shane Warne. Yeah. So this is from Jackson's article. His playing career can be split into four phases. The first took place between 1993 and 1998 when he burst onto the scene,

took all before him and claimed his first 300 test wickets. The second Australian to do so after his hero, Dennis Lilley. It was the time of effortlessly wrecking English fortunes, toying with Daryl Cullinan, and making even the world's best batsmen look foolish. Daryl Cullinan, who's like maybe his most famous bunny, like it was a real psychological thing where he just got him out cheaply every time.

He was, you know, one of the top South African batsmen. But yeah, it was almost like a running joke. Wow. Which obviously got into Cullinan's head and he just didn't deal with it. Jackson goes on, the main problem in that phase was physical. So often was Warren called up to save Australia's day, putting extraordinary strains on his body. He began suffering a host of painful injuries

that would eventually threaten his career. The second phase might be subtitled scandal and disgrace. Between 1998 and 2004, Warne was still a match winner, but he could also be a one-man disaster zone. In that period, infidelity cost Warne his marriage and injuries scrapped entire summers. This period involved controversies like John the Bookie and a one-year drug ban, which I'll talk a little bit more about later. The third phase came when he returned from his drug ban in 2004. At 35, in elite cricket terms, he was on borrowed time.

Remarkably, between then and his fairytale retirement after the 2006-07 Ashes, Warne took hundreds of wickets, moving past the 500, 600 and 700 test wicket milestones. He was the first player to ever hit 600 and 700 wickets. Wow. It redeemed him and fans soaked up one of the great late career sprees. A shining example of that twilight brilliance came in the generation defining 2005 Ashes, which were lost by Australia. Given his advancing age and the chaos of his private life at that point,

warns 40 wickets at 19. That means he took 40 wickets at an average of 19 runs per wicket uh remains an astonishing feat against england he always rose to the occasion but it was not a relationship of antagonism he was a star there too for australia and hampshire warn often talked of his script writer a cliche to be sure he told in his book he talks a bit about like i kind of feel like my life's like the truman show uh but also so it's a cliche but also a measure of his wonderment that his life could be so often veering away from one disaster over to glory his final milestone was a case in point his 700th wicket came five days after he announced

his retirement, falling in front of his adoring home crowd in Melbourne. The atmosphere was overwhelming. He talks about that day at the start of his book. From how I read it, he got like two hours sleep the night before, went and did a charity breakfast, and then went to the game. Oh, my God. Oh, I don't know how you do that.

No. I don't know how you do that. Adrenaline, I guess. I went to that Test match. I went by myself. I don't think I've ever gone to – I've gone to the footy occasion by myself. But cricket, it's a long day just to sit up in the stand. But I'm like, I just – no one was around to go with. I definitely have friends.

They're all in Canada. But I'm like, it's Warnie's last melbourne test match i've got to go and i'm glad i did but um yeah it was it was kind of surreal and we were you there the day you got the 700th wicket oh no i wasn't there that day but i think i was there the day bold i'd have to it isn't that funny that it it's a kind of a blurry memory now i mean it was 16 years ago but i wasn't there on the first day, which is when he took it. I think I was there on the – I was there later in the test match.

I think I was there on the last day. Yeah, okay. Which wasn't the fifth day. I think it ended early. I'd have to double-check that, though. Isn't that funny? Nah. So he was the first cricketer.

I mean, it's just an aging thing, but, geez, little memories that i used to be able to recount every gig i'd seen and when and where and all that sort of stuff and now i'm like yeah so i've seen them when and i'll luckily things like set lists are there yeah true i can look it up and be like yes it was that one at that venue yeah and there's the set list so cool but i mean matt you are 362 years old. I'm an old man. Nobody's expecting you to remember everything. The first time I heard Bach, when was that?

When was that? My little grey cells are real tiny now. Yeah. They're really little. So he was, as I said, the first cricketer to reach the 700 number. And it's only been surpassed by a Sri Lankan legend, Mutaiya Muralitharan, who even got to 800. That's incredible.

Yeah. He got to 800 flat. Wow. So they had a real battle between the two of them. Quite different bowlers. One off-spin, one leg-spin. One chucking, one not. Yeah, well, morally...

I'm just saying that to be controversial. I don't actually know. I mean, basically, I think they changed the rules for controversial. I don't actually know. No, I mean, they basically, I think they changed the rules for him about how he had a bent arm action, which would have been against rules, and it got slightly changed, and he worked on it and stuff.

I don't think it's not controversial anymore, but at the time, a lot of people were like, yeah, that's not bowling, that's throwing. And he even got called in test matches for chucking a few times. It was all very controversial at the time, but now he's just known as a bona fide legend of the game. Obviously, he's taken more wickets than anyone in test cricket.

Wow, that's cool. And he interviews him like a cool dude as well. Yeah, and him and Warnie were good mates. That's nice. When the tsunami hit Sri Lanka, Warnie called him up and was like, what can I do to help? And he flew over

at the next opportunity with it and he sorted out a bunch of bats and stuff to take with him like heaps and heaps of stuff to hand out

to the kids there and him and Morley did it and apparently that's nice like you know just like they were going through hell and it's just a funny little

he's a cricket I know you I know yeah he's a cricket bat that's what I was thinking I was like food would have been good or

I think there might have been some of that as well but. I know you lost your house, but here's a cricket bat. That's what I was thinking. I was like, food would have been good. I think there might have been some of that as well. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's easy to criticize, but like he went and did something. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he turned up. Yep.

So back to Jackson's article. The final phase of his cricketing career was between his retirement and 2013. That was his globe-trotting stint as a t20 specialist so t20 is a relatively new format of the game where they just each team plays 20 overs trying to make it quicker for the internet generation you know it's probably how they pitched it yeah they don't have the attention span they used to they They're always on the TikToks and the Instagrams. So he played for the Rajasthan Royals in the Indian Premier League and the Melbourne Stars in the Australian Big Bash.

And, yeah, he took the Royals to the inaugural premiership, like an inexperienced team, and he captained them and led them to the first IPL championship. Jackson says, if nothing else, it meant his career had spanned three decades, allowing another generation to say they'd seen a little of Warne's magic in the flesh. For all of this, numerous honours flowed. He was one of Wisden's five cricketers of the century, alongside Don Bradman, who we've talked about in a previous episode,

as well as Englishman Jack Hobbs and West Indian legends Garfield Sobers and Viv Richards. And he was entered into the International Cricket Council's Hall of Fame. On honour boards around the cricket world, his name appears in gold leaf, which means you get your name on the board if you take five wickets or score a century or whatever but just as warren was never one for stuffy traditions his appeal to fans

transcended statistics and trophies the statistics don't go close to telling the story of the career but they remain compelling 708 test wickets at 25.71. That's the average. We're talking about how many runs per wicket. 293 at the same cost in one-day internationals and a similar average in first-class list A and T20 ranks. It's really interesting. Yeah, his average in all formats is around 25, interestingly. Wherever Warne went, he took wickets. When a game was on the line, he was the man his captain looked to.

Some other stats include his 195 Ashes wickets, the game was on the line he was the man his captain looked to um some other stats include his 195 ashes wickets the most by any player wow he also has the all-time record for most test wickets in a calendar year when he took 96 in 2005 he also played a pivotal role in australia's 1999 world cup tilt he took the equal most wickets for the tournament and when the competition was online he produced two player of the tournament and when the competition was on the line, he produced two player of the match performances in the semi-final and final, helping Australia win the tournament.

You know what a hat trick is, Boppa? Yes, three. Three wickets in a row. Three wickets and three consecutive deliveries. Nailed it. Kind of like a triptych of wickets, if you will. In the history of test cricket, if you will. Ooh. In the history of Test cricket, there have only been 46 hat-tricks,

so they're pretty rare. Warnie got his hat-trick at the Melbourne Cricket Ground in 1994. The third wicket fell when Booney took an absolute screamer, diving to his right when fielding his short leg. Gave me tingles. Watch it yesterday. I was generally like, whoa. And Tony Gregg's commentary was so good.

I thought about clipping it out of play, but instead I'm just going to read it. Will you put on the Tony Gregg voice? My South Africa via England accent? I don't think so. Okay. Let me see. The grudge is the place you park your car.

Oh, he's got him. Has he caught him? Yes, he has. He's got him. It's a hat trick. Yes, he's gone. He's gone. It's a place you park your car. Oh, he's got him. Has he caught him? Yes, he has. He's got him. It's a hat trick. Yes, he's gone. He's gone. It's a hat trick.

That's a hat trick to Shane Warne. A great moment in his career. What a catch by David Boone. Not bad at all. That's pretty good. If you've heard Tony Gregg, that's very... If you've heard Tony Gregg. I haven't, but it was still fun.

Yeah, no, it was just so fun. I loved it. He was such a great commentator. That felt very captivating. Often very anti-extra. But it was like Booney is a nugget, right? He was fielding right in close to the bat, and he just dived sideways.

Such a sick catch. He was also a handy, though inconsistent, batsman. In the 2001 Perth Test against New Zealand, he made his highest score against, I think, your favourite cricketer, Dave? Am I remembering this right? My favourite... Who are they playing? New Zealand bowler.

Oh, Daniel Vittori. That's right. He's really putting you on the spot a few times today. I know. I was just thinking, my favourite cricketer. I was thinking, who are they playing? Was it Jacques Callas, who was one of my favourites? Oh, no, New Zealand?

Got to be Daniel the Nerd Vittori. I can't remember. You were on some podcast I was listening to, and you said he was your favorite player and some other guy, and they were like, are all your favorite sports people nerds? So, yeah, he was on 99. One run to get his first ever test century. Daniel Vittori bowls it.

He goes for a slog in his caught after just skying it. Should have just made a single oney. Yeah, exactly. He just got impatient. But replays showed the ball was a no ball by a long way. He overstepped by so far. But this was before? Before the automatic check, yeah.

Now, if it happened now, he would have faced the next ball, probably scored it again. He was also, getting to the end of his playing days, for the people who are finding this tedious at home, Warne was also a handy slip fielder, taking 125 catches, the 19th most catches as a fielder in Test cricket history. He's said to have changed the game of cricket forever. When he arrived, it was dominated by fast bowling

and leg spin was a dying art. On his retirement, journalist Gideon Haig said of Warne, it was said of Augustus that he found Rome brick and left it marble. The same is true of Warne and spin bowling. That's poetic wank. Read that again it is said of augustus it was said of augustus that he found rome brick and left it marble the same is true of warren spin bowling he's when warren found spin bowling it was a turd and as now he's polished it it's golden that's beautiful that's nice

yeah i love it i love how i think it's one of my favorite things sports journalists talking about it as if it's high art yeah which i mean to me i don't really get why it's you know we go oh actually it's not proper art like yeah it's like it's all fucking it's, you know, we go, oh, actually, it's not proper art. Yeah. It's like, it's all fucking. It's not like a paintbrush. It's all someone's passion. Totally. Yeah. But anyway.

Things can be done artfully. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Warn's Feet's on the field. We're only half his story, though. You just say feet.

You don't have to say feets. Warn's Feet's. If you've got. Warn's Feet's. I know you've got two feet, but you just say feet. I'm like, is that wrong? That's probably not. Yeah, okay.

Warns' foots on the field. Only half his story, what he did on the field. So now I'm going to talk a bit more about the colour and controversy he provided the game off the field. Apart from a love of cricket, Dave, what is the other passion? He's talking about putting him on the spot. What's the other passion you and Warren famously share? Trivia.

We both love doing, we both love the work of David Suchet as Hercule Poirot. Possibly. That's unverified. Do you have a guess? Nippies. Music? Baked beans. Oh, it is baked beans.

Brilliant. I thought you were going to say Durries for sure. Dave loves Durries. Dave Durrie Warnicky. Dave's a dart Warnicky. I'm a trained smoker. That's why we call him Duz. Yeah.

Duz Warnicky. He loves a dart. Whenever we record, he says, just popping off to the John. We know what he's doing. Yeah, he's always Whenever we record He says just popping off To the John We know what he's doing Yeah he's having a chuff He's having a bloody dart Smoking like a chimney he is

There was a story I'm going to talk a bit About his smoking later But there was a story That the team were going On a boot camp And they're like Alright so

When we're out there It's going to be Army style boot camp No booze We're going to give These style boot camp no booze uh we're going to give these are the clothes you have to wear no smoking he's like whoa whoa whoa are we sure about that rule yeah and and basically i'll shave my head i'll wear the clothes he's like he's like i'm up for anything but i can't i can't do without the smokes and they're like well you're just gonna no one can smoke and he's like i can't i can't come i'll i'll be a nightmare if i come and i don't i can't just go cold turkey on the smokes

eventually they said all right you could we'll give you a little smoking area out of the way just don't tell anyone something so funny um that's so funny but you know good self-awareness for him to be like i'm gonna be a pain in the ass if ass if you make me go cold turkey. I will cut right back to the bare minimum for me, but go on cold turkey. I'm not going to be a good person to be around. I believe there's a similar story with him when he was on I'm a Slavery Get Me Out of Here where maybe he was, but I couldn't, I didn't have time to confirm that or not,

but it's possibly another one of those stories that's told that isn't actually quite true. or not but it's possibly another one of those stories it's told that isn't actually quite true but anyway um so let's talk beans labine boy i'm ready uh in 1998 it was reported in the daily telegraph that quote an international airlift of baked beans and tin spaghetti is underway to save shane warne from wasting away after it emerged that the Australian leg spinner had been unable to face the local food on tour in India. Qantas, the Australian national airline, is flying 1,900 tins of beans and spaghetti to the team's hotel in time for the first test, which begins in Madras today.

That's so many. Okay, so that's for the team. That's a lot of tins of... Yeah. That can't be for Warnie. This is as being reported at the time. Warn described by Australian officials yesterday as, quote, not a fan of exotic cuisine,

has apparently been existing on a diet of breakfast cereal, toast, cheese and Vegemite on naan bread, supplemented with vitamin pills since arriving in India nearly two weeks ago. This became a running joke from then on. Like it was, you know, it was in, you know, one of those jokes that would be on panel shows and stuff a bit and that sort of thing. But according to Warne, it wasn't entirely true.

He later said, let me tell you the story about the baked beans. I'm going to set the story straight. Everyone thinks... He had to call a press conference. All right, everyone. Everyone thinks all I lived on in India for 12 weeks on the 1998 tour was baked beans. False. Incorrect.

Wow. Bang. Remember the mid-90s when tours used to go around for around 12 weeks? So we finished the test and we're getting ready for the one days. The then Australian coach, Jeff Marsh, sits down at breakfast, and he opens a tin of spaghetti and baked beans. And we sat there after having the spicy stuff for so long in India, and we thought,

how good will some spaghetti and baked beans be on toast? So we said to Jeff Marsh, we still have three weeks to go. Is it possible to get some of these? So the next day, he spoke to Cricket Australia and told us they've organized it, and they should be here in a couple of days. So we? So the next day, he spoke to Cricket Australia and told us they've organised it and they should be here in a couple of days.

So we get to the docks where the baked beans and spaghetti have been delivered and there's three tonnes of spaghetti and baked beans each. And on the site... Yeah. Well, what, three tonnes

of spaghetti and three tonnes of baked beans. I was thinking three tonnes for each person. He did put them. I'm like, that's too much. That's way too much. Oh my God.

We will be swimming in it. Yeah, you are literally preparing for the apocalypse at that point. So there's a big, big palette of it, right? Wow. And on both sides of this big crate, it was written, Shane Warne, India. There were a lot of other players who wanted the spaghetti and beans, but it was just addressed to me.

So we all helped ourselves to a few tins, and we gave away the rest to the people of India. And that's how the myth was born that i used to tour india and live on baked beans so he's like myth busted bang bang because i believe that story to be just that they were sent over for him he he was struggling with um indigestion or you know whatever he couldn't i thought i thought so too and as as someone who once spent a week in Tokyo only eating at the restaurant in the hotel I was staying at, eating shepherd's pie and garlic bread every single night, I'm very disappointed that that's not a true story.

I'm sorry, yeah. That's really disappointing. Yeah, I think he loved it. He loved travelling over to India. I imagine he... But he was not a foodie. He had no passion for food. According to him, if there's an opposite to a foodie, he's it.

That's what he said in his book. This is from his book again. As I see it, a steak is a steak. What's the big deal? He hates wanky restaurants. Yeah. Spaghetti bolognese is about as far as it goes with me. Unless we have people around, then i'll do a barbecue chicken

burgers or sausages i'll eat if i'm hungry and i won't if i'm not i like hot chips pasta pizza white bread cheese sandwiches and apples everything else i can take or leave mainly leave that's so few things yeah he tells a story early in the book about how he he used to eat everything at home when he was a kid and it's such a strange story one night um his brother jason had an ear infection and his mom knew this um like home remedy that was uh boiling an onion and getting the onion juice and putting that into the ear oh god so so that's what they did and he's like something happened and the next night i didn't eat dinner i just put him off his food somehow and the night after that i didn't eat i just lost my appetite and he just stopped he just only ate just a very few things after that

that's a baffling story yeah isn? That something happened to his brother. Yeah. And he's like, it put me off. But it was there. I mean, in my head, like she's boiled it in and she's used all these things that they ate with and then squirting it into his ear is like, oh, and somehow there's a gross association. My brother shot himself in the hand with a nail gun

and since he did that, I've not been able to tolerate the colour green. I don't know what to tell you. That makes sense to me as well. Yeah, I can't look myself in the eye. That's baffling. Also in 1998, one of the biggest controversies

in Warne's career came to light. The Age reported on it at the time under this headline, Warne, Mark Warne, took'm reading on. I'm listening. Writing, that has plunged the game into one of its greatest crises of the modern era. The Australian Cricket Board confirmed last night that it had fined War and Warne for providing information to an Indian bookmaker during Australia's tour of Sri Lanka in 1994. But cricket officials have covered up the scandal ever since

and the players were fined in early 1995. So it came out three years later. Oh, wow. Are you familiar with this story at all? No, not really. Well, Warne tells the story in his book, and his version suggests he was a lot more naive than dodgy. Went on tour in Sri Lanka.

Warne was at a casino. He loved casinos, loved roulette, loved blackjack, loved gambling. Doesn't sound like he was very good at it, though. And when he was there, he saw mark walls with this guy went over the guy introduced himself as john john said he'd won a bunch of cash on the aussie cricket team over the years and said he had this five thousand dollar betting chip because warner just told him that he'd done all his dough and he and one goes i'm fine i don't need your money i'm i'm okay but then uh the guy called him up the next day and say hey come around for lunch he said yeah no worries any mate of mark

was a mate of mine if you come around if you want they had lunch and the guy again goes can't it he's five grand i've you know i really appreciate all the joy you've given me or whatever and he goes all right i'll take it and that was it he goes and that was that i love it he says something and that was that when back in melbourne leading up to the boxing day test john called him at his hotel it's out of the blue this is months later according to warny we had a general chat about cricket there was no alarm bells when he asked how the weather was in Melbourne. I said, fine, bit overcast, but should be fine.

Good forecast for the five days. Pitch looks good. I kind of chatted as you would to a journo if doing an interview. Dry pitch, might spin towards the end of the match. Should be good for me, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, cool, thanks, he said. That was it. He wished him a happy Christmas.

He said, happy Christmas to you too. Then apparently he was asked about this conversation six months later by team management and he was shocked to hear he'd been caught up in a scandal. He was fined $8,000 and Mark Wall was fined $10,000. He's down three. Yeah. They weren't banned from playing and there was no suggestion that any match fixing was going on,

but their reputations were tarnished when the affair came out. Yeah, it seems like back then they were more like, let's just sweep this under the rug. This will be more trouble than it's worth if it gets out. But I think they ended up going public with it because a journalist had heard about it. Right. Speaking of match fixing, Warne was offered $200,000 by Pakistan captain Salim Malik to bowl poorly to force a draw against Pakistan. How much money?

$200,000. Four. Warne at the time was on like $20,000 a year to play for Australia. And he was like, he said he laughed. He's like, what? What are you talking about? He was like, he said he laughed. He's like, what?

What are you talking about? And he's like, Malik's saying, if Pakistan lose, it's going to be real bad. He was sort of guilting him, saying it'll be bad. Bad things will happen to the players and stuff. And he's like, what's going on? He's like, I can get you 200 grand by tomorrow. You just have to bowl wide. We'll leave it. We won't hit it.

No runs will be scored the match landed in a draw um so warren was sharing a room at the time with tim may and he came back to the room he said explain to tim may what happened he said he said he wants to pay us 200 grand for bowling poorly and apparently tim may said you don't have to pay me $200,000 for that. Which is a good line in the moment. Love that. Bit of fun. Love that, Tim. It's also quite a serious conversation,

but you know, you make it at large. Nah, nah, nah. Only joking, mate. That's exactly how he tells it. He says, wait, hang on, what? And then he goes serious. You don't have to pay me $200,000 for that. Nah, bit of fun.

We absolutely shouldn't do that, of course. We should go tell the coach right now. That's morally incorrect. they tell the team management it gets passed up the chain eventually it leads to a hearing and malik's career is ended over it whoa funnily enough uh the game was real tight in the end so warns like going i want to win this even more than ever now. And he bowled the last ball. It was they needed three more runs. Australia needed one last wicket. So, it was like anyone's game.

Warren steps up to bowl. Bowls it. It goes. I think there's a stumping opportunity, but Healy misses, and it goes through for four leg buys. Four buys, Paxton wins. And I'd seen him tell this story somewhere on YouTube or something. And in the comments, someone's like,

sounds like Healy took the money. Yeah, that was my first thought. Isn't that interesting? Obviously, there's no suggestion of that, but yeah. Whoops. And also the umpire, to that but yeah whoops and also the umpire

warren reckons that one of the last two batsmen was plum lbw and the umpire gave it not out he was like the umpire take the money

turns out warren's the only one stupid enough not to take the money in 2003 warren was again caught up in controversy when he was banned

from playing cricket for a year for taking a banned substance remember this one no as it turned out the banned substance was a diuretic warner uh said was given to him by his mom to help him lose weight she was like he could you could lose a few pounds feels like people were going at him about his weight his whole life um the diuretic also included ingredients that could be used as a masking agent against other prohibited substances. So it in itself was a banned substance.

Oh, I see. And Warn was returning from a shoulder injury at the time. Could have got a two-year ban, but I guess they believed his story that it was naive, stupid, but innocent. God, that must be so hard, though, that you have to be so careful about everything that passes your lip, everything that goes into your body. Yes. Having to be so careful and hesitant about everything.

I think, and as time goes on, professional sports people are more and more aware of it. There was a Saints player around 10 years ago who had an energy drink that wasn't just a mainstream one. Oh. And he got banned for a year i vaguely remember that actually i think yeah um yeah that ended his career you haven't you just like oh that seems interesting yeah that's right when but now they're like everything you have you got to check that

must be awful and even if you think about okay they're professional sports people they're they're putting their bodies under extreme pressure um i can move wrong on the couch and need an anti-inflammatory yeah yeah um you know like just for them to sort of have to think so much about and be like what am i allowed to take for pain or for any other kind of medical issue that you might have it's crazy yeah but also on the other hand, there are people who would say that that's the real. I just didn't know when it is actually being used to mask them doing something dodgy. Yeah, I guess so. You would have like a team of doctors that you could ask, hey, can I have this?

So you understand why there's hard and fast rules. Yeah. About so, because. But imagine like having an energy drink and that fucking your career. Yeah, yeah. Awful. And then, you know, whoever's judging it will be like, yeah, we believe you, but... Still.

We can't. If we bend on this, then it leaves a loophole for other people. Four. Yeah. Four. Four. Wow. Bang.

Wow. According to a report at the time and the age, Warne said the fluid tablet was taken for the sake of appearance and before his shoulder injury, proving he was not a cheat who had taken diuretics to mask other drugs to speed his recovery. Warne said he had been doing a lot of wine promotions at the time. Quote, I'd had a couple too many bottles of wine and a few late nights, he said. I took a fluid

tablet then that was the first time she my mom gave it to me it was to get rid of the double chin asked whether it was fair to say he had been stupid warren replied stupid's a harsh word i don't consider myself to be stupid i consider myself to be probably very silly i should have checked uh warren said that he took full responsibility for his actions there's been talks about me blaming my mom i never ever blame my mom because i take responsibility for what goes in my mouth but he'd cop a lot of shit about that as well like he was passing the buck onto his mom he's like no just that's just where i got it from i wasn't actually it was it did like it does feel like like people love to jump on him. Yeah.

You know, they'd always take the negative side of things. Yeah. Not everyone. I think there's probably 50-50. There was probably half are doing the opposite of that. Warne admitted that he should have listened more closely to Australian sports drug agency briefings on banned substances. But he said that just as when he was at school he had not paid attention so warren had a year off cricket in which he spent some of his time

as an unpaid mentor to players at the st kilda football club they were keen to get him in but the afl didn't allow him to have a an official position so it had to be an unofficial sort of he also he wasn't like hanging around the boundary line. Hey, you're doing well, you're doing well. He wasn't allowed... Run faster. Wasn't allowed to practice bowling at any official cricket field or anything like that. Would have been an awkward Christmas.

Everyone else gets out there in the backyard. Sorry, Uncle Shane. I don't know. Is this official? I'm not going to risk it. I'm not going to risk it. Oh, Greg's mowing a pitch into the lawn. And apparently they went on a family holiday to Spain,

which he said was pretty nice because it was one of the few times where cricket wasn't first priority, which is pretty brutal. Yeah. Tells stories of when his kids were being born and he's getting the phone call. Oh, man, I meant to pull that out. There was one story. He's like, he saw the photos of his

first daughter being born he's like oh my god babies are meant to be cute this is hideous and he was his parents were like oh did you get any photos like no he'd hidden them away and then he's later like yeah i don't know why i was being so weird i was just in shock all the blood and everything. Yeah. In a lot of ways, he was just like a big kid, you know? Yeah. So honest. Yeah.

Oh, God, so ugly. And kids can read. So reading that, I'm like, thanks, Dad. Yeah, like I said before, Warnie hated drugs. Never touched cocaine or anything like that. But he smoked like a chimney. And according to his book, he took it up very young. This is from his book.

When my brother, Jason, and I were 11 or 12, Dad caught us smoking and locked us in a closet. He said, if you guys want to smoke, here's a pack each. You're not coming out until you've smoked a lot. Oh, that classic. It is a classic. I've never heard it actually happen. And I've never heard it inside an enclosed space. Yeah, making it horrific. Oh, that classic. It is a classic. I've never heard it actually happen. And I've never heard it inside an enclosed space. Yeah, making it horrific.

Yeah, that's right. He goes on. I was violently ill after a couple of smokes, coughing and spluttering, shouting, Dad, let me out. But Jay stayed in there for hours. Smoked a lot. Dad, this is fucking great. This is the best.

You're the best dad ever. Thanks, Dad. Apparently, once he was done, he came out and said, Any more, dad? How many more you got? That poor kid. He probably would have said it more like, Any more, dad?

How many you got? Despite attempts to quit, Warnie smoked for the rest of his life. From that point on? Yeah, pretty much. That's so bad. That's awful. Definitely did not work. His dad's like, this is really backfired.

In 1999, he was paid a big chunk of money, seen it being reported as either $200,000 or a million. Wow. Somewhere between that. It's a lot of money. Yeah, a lot of money. So he was paid that by nicotine substitute company Nicorette to quit smoking.

The deal got a lot of attention as Warnney was famous for his love of darts. Melbourne comedian John Safran tried to tempt Warne by sending out a remote-controlled seagull with a cigarette in his beak onto the MC during a match. Safran was arrested for trespassing but was found not guilty in court. Apparently that was the only time. You know, Safran's sort of a comedian slash journalist, author slash prankster yeah all the pranks he ever did that was the only time he ever was taking a court for it for sending out a little remote control car who took him to court

do you remember i guess i think it would have been the mcg yeah it doesn't feel like warner would find that very funny i would assume he would have said Ah you fucking What are you being a fucking arsehole hey I don't know what that was That was a very good warning Bang You know warning Yeah Tony Craig Pretty good shame on

I don't know what that was I don't know what that was I'm tired I'm tired Hey I'm tired Of listening to this I've had enough of this I'm tired of listening to this. I've had enough of this.

I've had enough of your tomfoolery. So days before the four-month sponsorship ended, he was out drowning sorrows at a bar in Barbados. Barbados? Barbados. Barbados. Barbados. After being dropped from the team mid-tour. Steve Waugh.

They were mates early on, and then they really had a big falling out, and they were vice-captain and captain. And Warne hated how Steve Waugh was like, respect the hat, the baggy green cap, it's all about the cap, and actually, like, literally respecting the hat. Yeah. And Warne's like, this is a bit ridiculous.

It's more about the symbolism of the hat, I would have thought. You're literally telling me not to look at your hat in the eyes. So they had a falling out about this and about a few other things and Warne was out of form on this tour and Steve Warne, on tour, the selection committee, it was the captain, vice-captain and coach and Warne's like like i don't think you should play this next test warning and when he's like oh no i know i've been out of form but

i'm just coming back from the injury i'm feeling better with every day it's about to click you can definitely play me i'm feeling feeling good um war asked the coach coach said no i reckon i think it was rod marsh at the time uh she said what jeff mars one of the marshes and he said no i reckon we play play warny and was like i really don't think we do they got ab alan border who was in town said let's get another opinion from him border say oh you gotta play warny you gotta playie. And then Steve Orr goes, sorry, guys, my call. You're not playing. So he was dropped from the team.

It was sort of weird. So it feels like it was a bit personal and whatever. And so Warn was annoyed and angry. He went out that night and hit that Barbados pub hard. According to Warn, he bummed a smoke off teammate, Damien Martin, and as soon as he lit it, a flash went off and the guy behind the camera yelled, I'm going to sell this. That sounds like a bad movie.

Gotcha. Cha-ching. Apparently Warne said, whatever, mate, fuck off. That's, I think, a pretty reasonable response. Didn't think more about it. Had another beer. He woke up feeling, he's like, uh-oh, what have I done? Called his brother who was managing him.

They called Nicorette. And luckily, Nicorette was pretty chill about it. They backed him and said something like, no worries, quitting is hard. We knew this. It normally takes people at least three tries. No, it's very hard to go cold turkey. We knew something like this would happen. You know, like, oh my God.

Thank God. But yeah, but it's so, all I remember of it is people being like, haha, Warnie, sucked and we got you. Yeah, got him. Yeah, so gross. Wow, I really didn't think that story was going to end that way. I thought there was going to be a big deal where they dropped him. Money's given back and yeah, apparently not. Yeah, so gross. Wow, I really didn't think that story was going to end that way.

I thought there was going to be a big deal. Money's given back and yeah, apparently not. Oh, yeah. But yeah, I never heard that side of the story. That's very reasonable. Warne's infidelity also had him on the front pages of the tabloids at different times during his career. He was not very good at monogamy.

According to the Sydney Morning Herald, Warne was stripped of the Australian vice-captaincy after a lewd text message scandal involving a Leicestershire nurse during a plank stint in England in 2000. More allegations would surface in the following years, hitting a peak in England in 2005 when Warne was linked to at least two other women, he and his wife, Simone,

who had three children together separated later that year uh simone callahan and warren had been married since 1995 so about 10 years at the time they got back together briefly a couple years later after they separated but didn't last yeah he but apparently they did get on very well in the end which which is nice here. And they were, you know, they had three kids together and they both put that as pretty important. Going to still be in each other's lives, yeah. According to this great cricketing website I found called wikipedia.org. Like wicket? Yeah, I assume it's short for wickets.

Oh, wicketpedia. That's fun. Yeah. That's fun. I like that. So it's like all about cricket. Yeah, it's like a quick info website. Oh, cool.

So to speak. So this is from wikipedia.org. Following a split from Callaghan, Warne dated English actress Elizabeth Hurley. Although the relationship at first seemed short-lived, following the disclosure of Warne texting sexual messages to a married Melbourne businesswoman, the couple created a media frenzy

when Hurley later moved into Warne's mansion in Brighton, Victoria. They announced that they were engaged in late 2011, but had called off the engagement by December 2013. Warne later reflected that, quote, I was more in love with Elizabeth than I'd realized I could be. I missed the love we had. My years with Elizabeth were the happiest of my life.

Oh, wow. So he only had two long-term relationships. That was with Simone Callaghan and Elizabeth Hurley. What about Cricket? Oh, obviously Cricket was the love of his life in the end. The longest relationship you have is with yourself. That's true. Can't get away.

Can't get away. You can try, and I have. But, you know, you've You gotta be Your own best friend That's what I always say So you gotta love yourself If you want other people to love you That's what I say I'll say in the mirror

I say Love you Love you Hey Love you Just say that a bit And then The one in the mirror says

Fuck you Yeah and does that sort of Fake out head charge Yeah like slid Ha And it goes Gotcha Dickhead Anyway But we are getting closer Yeah That's beautiful Yeah, like slid and she goes, ha! And it goes, gotcha!

Dickhead! Anyway, but we are getting closer. Yeah, that's beautiful. I remember a story about when Liz Hurley moved in. Or like there was a, because my mum worked at a school in Brighton where Warnie's kids went actually. And there was choppers flying over Brighton. Just like media choppers. There was paparazzi out the front of the house.

And one time a mattress got delivered. And they're all taking pictures of this mattress. And, oh, they got a new mattress. And they didn't even order it. Someone from the press ordered it. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's what, what yeah they just had this real weird

i guess they knew he sold papers yeah but it was just it feels like a lot of bullshit front page mattress delivery yeah that's why some of these things i'm quoting i'm like i'm taking their word for it a bit yeah um but yeah so if it sounded ridiculous when i said the couple created a media frenzy and it's not at all. It was huge. Yeah, we're just like, people are going to look back on our time like we do when people used to go watch a train come to town. They're like, I had helicopters out because a cricketer

and an actress were living together. Yeah. Maybe made a purchase. Turned out they didn't actually. They didn't actually. They bought something. A mattress for sleeping on or other things. Mattresses are very sexy.

Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. You do all sorts of stuff on a mattress. I call it the work bench. You said that was the cliche on cribs where they go, this is where I do a lot of my good work whenever they went to the bedroom. It was always, it always felt pretty cool.

So, Warren's post-cricket career was jam-packed. He worked as a cricket commentator around the world. In late 2009, of course, Warren hosted a variety chat show on Channel 9 called Warnie. Of course, Warren hosted a variety chat show on Channel 9 called Warnie. Guests included Sir Michael Parkinson, Sting, Danny Minogue, and Coldplay's Chris Martin. But the show's ratings didn't reach expectations and the final episode of the five-episode run didn't go ahead. Despite this, Channel 9 was said to be impressed by Warren's hosting

with a spokesperson saying, I think people were pretty impressed with Shane. He was very, very comfortable as a host, which is glowing praise. It's very funny to give Warne his own show and then as one of the guests bring on one of the best interviewers in the world. I think that they were mates

and that one of the more famous serious interviews Warne ever did was on Parkinson. But in the lead up to the show warny said i don't think parko's uh shaking in his boots um of course uh we maybe know the show best because it gave us that classic line what's your favorite cold place on monday scientists uh The day the news broke of Warnie's death, I was driving and they played a memorial package accompanied by Coldplay's

Fix You and I thought, they don't know him at all. They don't know him. Absolutely wrong. So close yet so far. He's been pretty open about it. Yeah. A listener found a tweet he tweeted about as well. Bruce Springsteen's favorite Bruce song is Thunder Road which is my favorite Bruce about as well bruce spring his favorite bruce song thunder road which is my favorite bruce song as well there you go which made me think maybe my

favorite coldplay song is the scientist uh warny was also involved in a nightclub in melbourne called club 23 named after the number he wore in junior footy and international cricket seven years called the club a celebrity after party hot spot where stars such as tiger woods usain bolt harry kuhl and liz hurley called it home during their trips down under lasted eight years before closing in 2019 i never got to go there you guys know i've never been there it was a crown which he just loved casino so yeah it makes sense uh it was attached there warns other business interests included He had a lot of things. During his playing days, his first big, he was like,

I was earning 20 grand a year and that slowly went up. But after a few years, he started getting endorsement deals and that was when he started earning proper money. That's the big cash. Nike, he had this Nike one and he was flying over to Nike headquarters and he hung out with Jordan. Whoa. Yeah, he designed his own Shane Warne shoes, like Nike Air shoes.

Were they like Michael Jordan? This is Shane Warne. He's kind of the Michael Jordan of cricket. Cricket is like the... Yeah, wow. I mean, what a life, hey? Yeah. Packed a lot into 52 years just yeah just a kid from this the burbs yeah um another one of his business interests uh was 708 gin named after the amount of test wickets he took uh so you can drink like shane uh i don't think i can drink like shane actually and from 2020 you could also

smell like shane when he released sw23 by shane warne the debut fragrance that's the full title which according to the company quote exudes sophistication sensuality and warmth with sumptuous ingredients that envelope envelope, envelope the senses. Why did I do that to myself? Sorry. But anyway, yeah, I've got to get myself some of that. Yeah, get yourself some SW23. Of the scent, Warnie said,

I've had some good feedback from women. They seem to like this. People will notice you're wearing it and they will comment on how wonderful you smell. They notice you wearing it. I love it. I gotta get some. You don't stink. Huh.

You smell less like cigarettes. That's interesting. Than usual. He was like, yeah. All profits from the sale of the cologne went to Melbourne-based children's charity Deck My Room, which provides decorations for the hospital wards of pediatric and young adult patients. Oh, that's nice.

That is very nice. He was often very charitable. He did, like, the whole way through his career. And a lot of it goes unnoticed. Yeah. You kind of hope so, in a way, wouldn't you? Because if it's really flashy, it's like, who are you doing this for? Yeah, yeah.

way wouldn't you because if it's really flashy it's like who are you doing this yeah yeah so um i saw just a friend on facebook i think had um they were talking about how uh they were involved in a in a company a charity with uh sick kids and they went out to sort of like a ronald mcdonald house type thing yep and he bought three buses for them just to be able to take the kids back and forth. Oh, wow. And that was something like no one ever heard. She only knew about it because, you know, she was involved. Yep. So, yeah, I think there was a lot of that sort of stuff

going on behind the scenes. Most famously of his recent years, he donated his famous bag of green hat, which we know he didn't put up on a pedestal yes steve was like i'm not gonna fucking sell mine i still sleep with that i want to say sleep with it i mean in a biblical sense i have sex with this hat every night this hat is my wife and i will not be selling my wife his His nickname is Tugger. And he had that little red rag. That's right.

Oh, my God. Little red gum rag. Anyway. So, yeah, Warnie auctioned off the hat, the baggy green, after the devastating bushfires of a couple of years ago. And it sold for $1 million. Wow. It now resides with Don Bradman's at the Bradman Museum in Barrow

That's so nice So you can go to this little country town in New South Wales And see Warnie's hat with the Don's side by side That's beautiful Warn also launched Is it not? It is beautiful Not quite selling it

That's beautiful That's nice That's a nice touch That's nice that is It is nice That's beautiful Warn's nice. That's a nice touch. That's nice, that is. It is nice. That's beautiful. Warren also launched the Shane-wow. Shane-wow?

It's like a sham-wow, but it's a Shane-wow. I really appreciate this sign, but you have misspelled mine. I'm not Shane-wow. And I'm not a span-bowler. I'm not a spanner. I'm not a span bowler I'm not a spanner I'm Australia's most famous spanner The Shan Wham Institute for the Dyslexic Shan Wham Shan Wham

So he launched the Shane Wham Foundation in 2004 An Australian not-for-profit organisation With the intention of assisting seriously ill and underprivileged children and teenagers. Warne worked hard for the foundation, but it also hit controversy due to alleged mismanagement. According to wikipedia.org, that great cricket info website, Consumer Affairs Victoria commenced an investigation in 2015

into the foundation after it failed to submit financial returns financial returns in 2014 had revealed the charity spent 281 434 on fundraising during the year but its efforts only raised 279 198 you know net loss of a couple grand newspapers Newspapers alleged that the organization was only donating 16 cents in the dollar of its income. During one year, the chief executive of the foundation, his brother Jason, was paid a salary of 80 grand whilst only 54,600 was distributed to beneficiaries. The organization spent more than $300,000

on catering alcohol and prizes for events while posting significant annual losses. In January 2016, in response to what it termed unwarranted speculation, the foundation announced its intention to distribute its final funds on the 18th of March 2016 and closed down. So I don't know if it closed down. He, in his book, he talks about it a bit like

it got a real bad rap. You know, it's been misrepresented how do you know i don't know i'm just i mean i'm reading off wikipedia so yeah obviously a pretty handy and comprehensive resource there and always 100 accurate uh in 2008 melbourne singer and actor eddie perfect wrote and starred in Shane Warne the musical yeah of course which went on to win the 2009 Helpman award for best new Australian work and the 2008 Green Room award for best new Australian musical while initially superstitious of the project Warne later gave his approval after watching the show saying I think Eddie and his team have

written a musical in a respectful and sympathetic way and that they have captured my fun larrikin side. The Herald Sun's review of the show said, the musical is a wild, funny, outrageous, and by the end, surprisingly moving account of the champion spinballer's life so far. Among the fun, there's genuine respect for Warne's enormous enormous talent but it doesn't gloss over his personal failings i really respect how uh when something like that is both making fun of you and you know it's yeah and he can go along and be in on the joke and go yeah no they've done well there yeah you know rather than feeling defensive or attacked or embarrassed yeah that's cool's cool. Love that. One of my favorite things, this is I think the, we're getting to the end of the report here,

but one of my favorite things about Warren's post-cricket life was the mural he commissioned for his house. Do you know this one? Yep. I'll show it just for Bob, but I'll post a photo of this on social media. So it's basically his dream barbecue scenario. So I'll just give you a quick look, Bop,

and then I'll talk everyone through it. Okay. So you've got Jolly, Game of Cards here, and Jack Nichols. Okay. Holding a VB slab. And that's at his house. That's at his house. Well, it was at his house, yeah. And that's at his house. That's at his house.

Well, it was at his house, yeah. So there's a brief video. For some reason, he was interviewed about it at one point, and there's a brief clip of it on YouTube of someone filming their TV, but it cuts off halfway through, and that seems to be the only version of that interview out there. So in it, he talks about it a bit. So I've got a bit of an insight.

One Corner Warn is in conversation with Bruce Springsteen. He's holding a cricket ball. He's like, you know, imagine the conversations we could be having. Then he says, the legend Mick Jagger is just chilling. And you've got Frank Sinatra and Muhammad Ali singing along. Meanwhile, he says, JFK is mixing with Sharon Stone and Marilyn Monroe, while Jack Nicholson is bringing in a slab of VB in the center of the painting. And he's got that classic, he's Johnny sort of grin.

Angelina Jolie is lying on a lounge naked apart from a sheep for some reason. And Chris Martin from Coldplay is having a bit of a chat with cricketer Michael Clark. Elvis and James Dean also feature as well as Sean Connery's Bond playing poker with some of his poker. Some dogs. Was it Joe Hashim? I think he was like a famous Australian poker player who was mates with Warnie. He was there too. What?

Yeah, so pretty great. And I don't know a lot about her, but I know what I like. And I don't hate this. In fact, I fucking love it. The media was very snooty about it, of course. Of course they are. Like they have been with it. It feels like a lot of stuff with him is kind of classist bullshit.

Yeah. There was an article on stuff.co.nz which writes, in a terrifying insight into the mind of Australia's former king of spin, Shane Warne's ultimate fantasy has been revealed in a painting that takes centre stage in the study of his Melbourne home. Presumably, Gandhi, Nietzsche and Beethoven didn't make the cut. I mean Yeah You're right

It is kind of classist And But like It's a bit of art For his house Yeah Who gives a shit It is also very funny

It is It's very funny No I mean I love it It's very funny But I don't know Why it's just so funny To be like Hmm

Oh And yeah Criticising him For not having people You think Deserve more Adoration It's weird isn't it I could not Tell them To fuck off Any further Oh, and yeah, criticising him for not having people you think deserve more admiration. It's weird, isn't it?

I could not tell them to fuck off any further. I don't want that painting. I wouldn't commission that painting. I mean, I would. I'd go, just a quick change. Can you get me in that conversation with Warnie and Bruce? Yeah. Was Michael Clarke a good mate of his?

Yeah, they were great mates, yeah. He talks about how they're on tour and when his marriage was falling apart that Clarke would just sit with him for hours just sort of keeping him company when he was really battling. Yeah. That's mateship right there.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Bloody hell, bloody dude. Bloody hell, mate. Anyway, all good things must come to an end, and sadly, this one came to an end way too soon. On the 4th of March, 2022, at the age of 52, Warren died from natural causes,

probably a heart attack, on the island of Koh Samui in Thailand. Koh Samui, which we've been to, where I told the crowd the story of Boonie. Oh, yeah. His final... Sorry, his death came on the same day as that of fellow Australian cricketer Rod Marsh,

to whom Warne paid tribute on Twitter only a few hours prior to his own death. Six days after Warne's death, his body was returned to Melbourne on a private plane from thailand his statue at the mcg was flooded with tributes including flowers vbs cans of baked beans and packs of darts the sculpture of warren mid-delivery which stands outside gate two of the famous venue has been transformed into a makeshift memorial with dozens of floral bouquets bouquets

sprawled around the pedestal. This is from Sky News. The site was visited by Warne's three children, Brooke, Jackson and Summer, and their mother, Simone Callaghan, this week. Callaghan later posted a montage of Warne with the kids on social media, writing, Shane's greatest love, our children Brooke, Jackson and Summer. Shane was taken too soon from their young lives eternal love remains and will never leave file a shane the state funeral is planned for the mcg actually would have already happened by the time this episode goes out where the great southern

stand will also be renamed in his honor i think it's going to be called the shane warren stand which is amazing it's been a great southern sand forever yeah that's incredible life so um and it's the bit it's the big stand where the you know the big chunk of people sit so i think that's very cool so we're bay 13 the old bay 13s in there and wow i remember there's a few memories i've been trying to figure out if i was at the game or at the tv because i used to go to a lot of those one day one days days in Australia used to be big. You know, the MCG could get 80,000 people. Amazing. And I went to a bunch of them

and there was one, I'm sure I was in the crowd, but I might be mixing memories, where the crowd were throwing shit at the English players, like bottles and stuff. Oh my God. And it wouldn't stop. It got really out of control. So they sent Warnie out to over and to tell the crowd to stop,

and they did. He just, like, sort of signed. He said, cut it out. None of this. No throwing. And then he walked off the ground again, and that was enough. Everyone's like, all right. All right.

No, fair enough. Fair enough, sure. Fair enough, King. Yeah, fair enough. Well, we did go a bit far there, Warnie. Sorry, mate. We got a bit carried away. Sorry's like, all right. All right. No, fair enough. Fair enough, sure. Fair enough, King. Yeah, no, fair enough. Well, we did go a bit far there, warning. Sorry, mate. We got a bit carried away. Sorry about that, mate.

We probably shouldn't throw glass bottles at people trying to do their job. Yeah. You're right. You're right. Sorry about that. Yeah, that was a different time. Yeah, wow. Getting glass bottles at a cricket ground.

A silver lining of his death is that thousands of australians apparently have been getting their heart health checked in the aftermath really uh and what has been dubbed as the shane warn effect i mean that was on a clip with carl stefanovic okay so i don't know how widely the shane warn effect term has been used but anyway but yeah i mean he was 52 yeah that makes people around that age older younger whatever sort of go oh shit you know yeah and he was you know like people talk about like one of these things that's often talked about him is he was fat but he was never really you know it's not like he was he was just a normal sort of guy um and his weight did go up and down a little bit of yeah it's so does everyone's yeah i know

it's so hypocritical it's isn't it like there's people who you see um articles since he died mentioning his vanity and stuff he getting botox and stuff you're like what the fuck are you because you spent 20 years criticizing everything about how he looked and his body and so then he did things to probably make himself feel better but also i don't know to appease that and then you criticize him for that yeah it's bullshit it is such fucking bullshit yeah um anyway let's not end on that negative note i'm going to finish with a quote from ex-cricket journalist and current shark on the chase. Do you think I can call him friend of the show?

Friend of the show, yeah. Brydon Coverdale. He wrote this, I think, on the day of his passing. Shane, he's like on Twitter, he's often tweeting out niche cricket facts and stats and stuff. Massive cricket nerd. And yeah, follow him if you're into cricket uh bryton wrote shane warne was first to 700 test wickets an unfathomable milestone but judging warne on stats is like counting how many words shakespeare wrote it misses the point he redefined

his art he made leg spin cool he changed the game the most influential cricketer of my lifetime so i love bringing in high arty sort of things like shakespeare because it wasn't shakespeare at the time wasn't hard either yeah that's true yeah but i love that line judging warn on stats is like counting uh counting how many words shakespeare wrote oh shakes was so good. He wrote thousands of words. His plays had fucking heaps of words. He was prolific with words. So that is my report on the late, great Shane Warne. I don't know if I could tell. I was feeling like I might have cried at the end of the air.

Like this was the same voice. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny to feel such big feelings about someone you never met. Yeah, but like you say, I mean, you grew up watching him. And he was a one-in-a-generation kind of player that was thrilling to watch. Yeah. And he died young. Yeah, just a huge character and all those sort of things.

I think I just always assumed, because we both love the Saints, we're around, I'm like, one day I'm going to have a night out with Warnie. I think I always just thought that would just happen one day. You end up at the same sort of function and you'll get to say g'day or something. Yeah, well, well done. What a great report. Yeah, very, very well said um obviously it is a bit emotional especially as we were recording it even closer to the date of his death and maybe

we are releasing it yeah yeah so it's yeah hit a lot of people hard so well done matt well that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show the fact quote or question section it's also a section where we thank a bunch of our other great supporters. I think this section, Bob, has a little jingle that goes something like this. Fact, quote, or question. He always remembers the ding.

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your time to shine bit of advice yes that's right well uh the first one this week comes from kelly clark and you also get to give yourself a title and kelly's title is triptych fact quote and questioner uh and kelly has got a question here which is koala bears aren't bears do you know what they are matt pause here for answers oh do you know i know they're not bears yeah it frustrates me actually when i'm watching tv or a movie or something and they say koala bear i'm like not a bear it's just like a real it doesn't matter yeah We all know what they're talking about. If you say koala bear, I know exactly what you mean. It's not worth me getting that upset about, but I fucking do.

Just an irrational thing. It's not a bear. They're not marsupials, are they? How much can a koala bear? It's funny, whenever I see. Marsupials lay eggs. I see a koala. No, no, marsupials are pouches.

Ah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, I was thinking. Monotremes are egg-laying marsupials. Egg. Marsupials lay quails. No, no. Marsupials are pouches. Ah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. Monotremes are egg-laying marsupials. Egg-laying mammals. Egg-laying mammals. The platypus and the echidna. Yeah. It's funny.

Every time I see a quail on TV, I yell, like, it's not a reptile. Yeah. Just instinctively. But nobody says it. Nobody says, oh, it's a koala lizard. Yeah. They don't. Idiot.

Yeah. So it's not a bear. What is it? Cute. To some sort of fluffy mammal uh kelly says they're criminals yeah they're fucking criminals koala bear fingerprints are scientifically indistinguishable from finger fingerprints under forensic analysis so koala bears could be running around committing all sorts of koala bear crimes and leaving their koala bear fingerprints all over

the crime scene to frame human beings oh my god australian police think that koala bears are you loving how many times she said it's killing me uh australian police think that koala bears have actively impeded criminal investigations wake up sheeple uh this is a quote from at wow underscore it's underscore a and on TikTok. Wow. Great quote. Thank you so much, Kelly Clark, for your contribution there. That is good. The next one comes from Katie Clays, who's got the title of mother of the sass queen.

Huh. Huh. There you go. Is that you? Yeah. Huh. queen huh huh there you go is that you yeah i feel like katie hasn't changed her um her title from last time because i remember last time we had that exact conversation do we huh is that you yeah uh katie's offered a fact which is three fun facts about broom western australia one

gabinge a bush fruit found in broomome and on the Dampier Peninsula, is known to have the highest vitamin C of any fruit in the world. Cool. Gabinge is a good name. Take that, oranges. Yeah, sucked in. Two, pearl meat is a delicacy in Broome and retails for around $150 per kilo. Pearl meat.

Yeah, I guess it's in the... Yeah. Does that mean in the oyster or whatever? I guess so. Or the clam? Where do you get a pearl? I don't know. Talking to the wrong person.

Or is this totally something else entirely? Is pearl an animal that I just haven't heard of? What is pearl a person? Oh. She just has a... She's a great butcher. Pearl's meat. And...

Come on down. Come on down to Pearl's meat. We're closed Saturdays, which is a bad business decision. But anyway, I love watching the big games. So I'm closed. Three. Before the Levee Bank was built in 1974,

cinema goers at Sun Pictures, the world's oldest outdoor cinema, would lift their feet as the tide came in. Oh, that sounds awesome. Rumour has it that you could catch a fish during a screening. That is so cool. That's cool. I saw a great video during the recent flooding up north and obviously it was a tough time,

but there was one great video of a guy on the pokies with the window open and the water was up and he had a fishing rod out there. So, he's having a, drinking a beer on the pokies while fishing out the window open and the water was up and he had a fishing rod out there. So he's having a, drinking a beer on the pokey's wall fishing out the window. And they say men can't multitask. He's really trying his luck. So Katie says, I share these facts in the hope to entice you to come

and do a live episode in Broome, which would only be a 10-hour drive from my place. So I'd for sure make the trip for you lot and some Broome, which would only be a 10-hour drive from my place, so I'd for sure make the trip for you lot and some Broome time. Little context on my title, my four-year-old daughter must be taking tips from the Sass Twins as she's literally, she's really testing me with her sassiness. Thank you, Katie Clays. That's great, Katie Clays.

I haven't been to Broome. I would love to go. Me either. It's a long way away, but I'd love to be there. It is a long way away. I think my brother is, you know, in that area, and we're thinking it would be nice to go and visit him because I haven't seen him for a while,

but it is a long way to go. Sounds like it could be worth the trip with those three facts. Absolutely. Next one comes from Ben Johnson, who has the title, Hi, I'm American actor Ben Johnson. You may remember me from such films as She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, Wagon Master, and Chisholm. I do, Ben.

Ben has got a question. Hi, Matt. Can you read this first part in a joke-nasty way? Like mean but fun. Also, wink at Dave so he knows part in a joke nasty way? Like mean but fun. Also, wink at Dave so he knows it's a joke. All right, I'm looking. Also, don't read out this bit. Thanks.

Oh, fuck. Well, I mean, you don't read it till you read it. So, it's fair enough that you're there. I've said that many times. Yeah. I think maybe Ben was hoping that would happen. Yeah, he's probably. That was a test.

That all went exactly as he planned. Now, do the mean bit. All right. Question. Question. How long does it take to read one fucking book? That was a test. That all went exactly as he planned. Now do the mean bit. All right, question. How long does it take to read one fucking book? Answer.

I'll let you know when the book cheat episode comes out. Is it because Ben, was he the one who commented something and you stopped doing? Was that Ben? Or is this a different thing? Which one of your many book cheat beefs is this about? Ben is wanting me to read A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking. Uh-oh. The pitter-patter of a little dog.

Hey, hello, little dog. After a long, hard day's work. Also, I'd love to point out that you didn't fucking wink at me, so I didn't get any of the humour. It just came across as an attack, Ben. Okay, well, this makes sense because there's a bonus fact. When Stephen Hawking was diagnosed with motor neurone disease in 1963 at the age of just 21,

it was estimated a life expectancy of two more years, but he showed those doctors the metaphorical middle finger and lived for another 55 years, dying in 2018 at the age of 76. Today, Hawking is buried at Westminster Abbey alongside the likes of Sir Isaac Newton and Charles Dickens. Hi.

What did you think of that fact there, Goosey boy? What do you think? That's me. That's me. That's me. Hey, Goose. Hi, Goosey. Hey, Pop Pop. Oh, yes, I can hear it.

It's coming through loud and clear, Goosey. Any retort to Ben? Ben, I've been doing a lot of reading in my little break from book cheats. And when we come back, some new books will be coming. Yeah, he's been doing some reading, like vows. Yeah, that's right. Reading out my vows. Ben, you've just got to stay tuned like everyone else.

Book Cheat will be back soon and we'll see. Will I cover Stephen Hawking? Book Cheat will return. Thank you, Ben. And finally, from Daniel Ryan, aka dude who can't think of a good title, has got a brag. Love a brag. Love a brag good title, has got a brag. Love a brag.

Love a brag. We love to see a brag. Daniel writes, I recently got a job which allows me to support the pod in a way it deserves. Oh, that's nice. In the way it deserves. Thanks for the years of entertainment.

It's helped me through breakups, deaths, and so much more hardship, which I'm sure is true for so many other listeners. Oh, thank you, Daniel. That's so nice, Daniel. We appreciate that. And congrats on the new gig.

Bit braggy for me, but... Yeah. Thanks. That's very lovely. Yeah, congrats on the gig. Hope you're loving it. That's great. Another thing we like to do here at Do Go On is thank a few of our other supporters.

Normally, with a little game Jess has come up with based on the topic at hand. So, we're going to thank three supporters each. And Jess, what do you reckon? What are we going to give them each? It could be a nickname. She could tweak stuff. Yeah, I was thinking nickname. But we do that often.

But we could go nickname. Or I was thinking the two sports they're very good at. Because, you know, he was very good at footy. Oh, he was a jewellery. And then chose... And tennis. And tennis, yeah, okay. All right.

The three sports I used that to. No, let's go to a run out of sports real quick. You know, one that they sort of like was their first passion, and then something that took over. Great. Love that. I think. And then I'll try and give him a rhyming nickname.

No, that'll be very brutal. I'm glad you chose this one instead yeah uh i'd love to thank if i may begin from fitzroy north here in melbourne australia dean caldwell dean caldwell was actually um very good at soccer yeah um as a young a young person and then then actually what happened is one particular game, a fellow player sort of fell in front of him and Dean did this very cool like jump over and there was actually an athletic scout in the stand and went, ooh, that was quite a high jump you just did there. You might be very good at hurdles.

Yeah. And he was known as the rocker of soccer ever since. I was thinking fucker of soccer. Yeah, that's... I think that one's going to make the most sense of all the ones we do. We've started very good there. Thank you. Next up from Yarrawarra in New South Wales, Australia, it's Anna.

Anna. Anna, of course, a very good swimmer growing up. Yes. One of the best. Anna the fish, they called her. She booked a table. Mish fish. She booked a table at her local swimming club,

but there was a bit of a mix-up, and she accidentally booked the pool table inside the clubhouse and was very good at it and became snooker world champion. Wow. Left the pool behind. Wow. The puka of snooker. She spewed up success.

You said, oh, God, thank God I don't have to come up with nicknames. And you're doing it anyway, and you're doing amazingly. And finally for me, I'd love to thank from Collingwood, also here in Melbourne, Australia, it is Liz Brandt. Liz Brandt. Obviously, Liz, a champion dancer as a child. And Hungry Hungry Hippos. That's Liz's second sport?

Yeah. Hungry Hungry Hippos. Yeah. Okay. Wow. See, Dave and I have been like building stories around how things have happened but yeah dancer and then hungry hungry hippo well the story is she was practicing dancing in her living room when she accidentally stood on one of the hippo's balls and invented a new move which she called the

hippo yeah and then uh the good people at mattel or whatever the brand who probably make nestle whoever make hungry hungry hippos that the chocolate version of yeah uh they came by and said we want to sponsor you uh we've actually got a hippo tournament coming up she played was a natural yeah won the tournament and became officially a double threat yeah so pretty cool for liz there. May I thank some people as well? Please. Please do.

I would love to thank from Arlesworth in Great Britain. Is it in London? Laura Digan. Laura. Or Digan. Laura Digan. Laura Digan. Bowling down Digan's Alley.

Beautiful. Ten pin bowler. I forgot what the next part of that was. I was going to say 10-pin bowling. Yeah, so a real good 10-pin bowler. Yeah, wow. And after that, one time the cleaner was early cleaning the lanes and Laura broke his ankle. Broke the cleaner's ankle?

The cleaner's ankle with a bowling ball. Oh, my God. And after that was spotted by talent scouts from the heavy industry and she went into debt collecting and became a world champion debt collector. Oh, wow. Breaking ankles, taking kneecaps. She did it all. Okay.

That's very impressive. And well done to you, Laura. I would also love to thank from Hastings here in Victoria, Heidi Russell. Heidi Russell, of course, started out as a fencer as a child. Yes. Yeah, a lot of children started sword play. Yeah. Oh, a lot of children starting sword play. Yeah, sword play. And then obviously when you're a child,

people throw, siblings throw things at you. Yes. And Heidi was just hitting them back in the air and then someone said, you know what? You should play badminton. Yes. So world champion badminton player. That's good. I wanted to be a fencer, but...

Rocker of the shuttlecocker, they called her. Yes, that's what they called Heidi. Finally, for me, I'd love to thank from Lang Warren, also in Victoria, Natalie Spirison. Natalie Spirison played in the WNBA highest level of basketball. Yep. But when shooting a shot was discovered, someone in the crowd said, shooting, she's good at shooting.

Yeah. They said, imagine if we took the ball out of her hand and put a gun in there. Okay. Classic America. She went to the Olympics, won gold in clay pigeon shooting, if that is. Wow. Probably target shooting.

What is it called? Clay shooting? Clay shooting. Trap? Trap. Trap. Yeah. And she also, yeah, this doesn't count, but also got into music and made a trap album

that was also big. Underground, but big. That is amazing. In that underground, yeah. Dave, do you want to take us home? Hey, I'd like to take you home by thanking from Helston in Great Britain. The name is all one word. Holla me.

Holla me. Holla me. Holla me. Holla me. Holla me. Holla me. Everything is all right. Remember that song?

Yeah, that's one of my bottom ten all-time songs. Uncle Cracker. Uncle Cracker. Bottom ten. Yeah. What else is in there? I'd love to hear this. Scar Tissue by Red Hot Chili Peppers.

No. Yeah. Last Kiss by Pearl Jam. Oh, where? Oh, where? Is that one? Yeah. Would my baby be?

These songs aren't that bad. They're not that bad. No, but that's not a good pair. Okay, yeah. I think maybe it's because they're often by pretty, you know, pretty decent bands, but they're just dull songs. Yeah, okay, sure. Yeah, okay, that's understandable.

I haven't updated the list in a long time. I've become more positive since my angsty years. Holla me. Started out. In rowing. Started out in rowing. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. In the rowing. And then one time had an elbow injury. So, they were sitting out for a little while. And so, they were doing a lot of lower body exercise while the elbow healed and they were discovered doing footsie professional professional footsie that's right looking for help yes and did i give you some yes footsie footsall footsie footsie footsie under the table like the classic ronnie chang bit i won remember that bit playing footsie with his sister

playing footsie with my sister i won uh yeah great couple of sports there from holl. I would like to thank from Coburg here in Victoria, Jess Mitchell. Jess Mitchell. Jess Mitchell, of course, started out skiing. Yep. And ended up, after falling off a slope down a cliff, she started rock climbing. Oh, right.

Self-taught for survival. Just had to come back up. Yeah. Got real good at it. It's amazing what you can learn when your life depends on it. Yeah. You know, I think that's what I was missing at school. The stakes were not high enough.

Yeah, like if the swimming coach had put their gun to your head and said, look, you're going to do the freestyle in under two minutes. Then maybe I would have done it. Yeah. But nobody was pushing me. Yeah. So I was like, nah, I can't do swimming. I got my period.

That worked every time. Every time. You heard that for quite a while. Yeah, I know. I know. That's why I need to sit down. Yeah. Oh, thanks, Jess.

And finally, I'd like to thank from, that's Jess Mitchell, I'm thanking, not you. I would like to thank. Oh, I got it. Never me. I'd like to thank from East Victoria Park in Western Australia. Why is that? East Victoria Park in Western Australia. Couldn't be more west from Victoria.

Erin Holbeach. Erin Holbeach. Holbeach is a fantastic name. Love that. And actually quite fitting because Erin is a champion surfer. Spent a lot of time at the beach. Okay. Champion surfer.

Got bit by a shark. Oh, yeah. Well, not bit, like a little bite. A small nibble. Small nibble, but it made Aaron think, you know, and then Aaron got really into cycling. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, right, I'm not going in the water anymore. Yeah, you know what? Surfing, and then I get all sandy. And I'm already world champion of that. Yeah. Next. Yeah, I've clocked it. Yeah, done.

It's boring to me now. What else? So, yeah, and Aaron's a champion cycler. You know, the ones in the little velodrome. Yeah, done. It's boring to me now. What else? So, yeah, Aaron's a champion cycler. You know, the ones in the little velodrome. Oh, yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah, the roundy roundies. Yeah, the roundy roundies in the Olympics.

Very cool stuff. Did you see the Olympics? The most recent Olympics when the guy's handlebars fell off his bike? Yeah. That was cool. Yeah. Not actually. He was going quite fast and it was a bad injury.

Yeah, it was full on. Crazy. Anyway. Thank you so much to Aaron, Jess, Hollomey, Natalie, Heidi, Laura, Liz, Anna, and Dean. And the last thing we'd like to do here is thank a few of our long-term supporters that have been on the shout-out level or above for three straight years. It's the Triptych Club. This is a club that's both in our hearts and minds uh it's the

theater of the mind i'm gonna uh be standing at the door there's a velvet rope i've got a clipboard if your name's on it i'm gonna welcome you in after lifting up that rope dave's on stage he's gonna really hype you up he's your hype man everyone who's already in the club is there chanting along with your name jess is uh hyping dave because he's not very good at this and he needs a bit of backup. That's not the reason. It's because it's nice to hype up the hype man. Yeah, it's nice to be nice to your friends.

And then Jess. Unlike you, you don't know what that's fucking about. Jess is a double threat. She's also behind the bar coming up with a cocktail. What's the warning? It's VB. VB, yeah. But I put it in a tall glass

and I put an umbrella in it. Oh, fantastic. Yeah, and it's ice cold. and I put an umbrella in it. Oh, fantastic. Yeah, and it's ice cold. Red Bull vodka's also available. Also available. It's always available. It's an open bar. And Dave, you normally book a band?

You're never going to believe this. What? I obviously book this months and months and months in advance. Yeah, so what? You're telling me that it somehow coincides with what we've talked about today? I somehow have the greatest quattro of all time. What? Performing live together.

What? We've got Chris Martin. No. The boss,ro of all time. What? Performing live together. What? We've got Chris Martin. No. The boss, Bruce Springsteen. What? Old Blue Eyes himself, Frank Sinatra. Oh, my God. And on harmonica, Shane Keith Warren.

Whoa. All performing together. That is how I didn't mention that story, but he did play harmonica with Coldplay on stage. I saw them. I was at that gig. We were too. We've talked about that.

One of the most, the whole crowd was like, is that Shane Warman? That's so cool. It was very surprising, but now a great memory. So, so cool. And then he'll,

but he was, honestly, he was in key. He was a decent harmonica player. I love that. Him with the boss, Frank and... That'd be beautiful. Chris.

Was it interesting that you didn't have Muhammad Ali there Singing along Like he is in the mural Famous You can't get everyone Nah that's true

We'll try We're still working on Getting Muhammad I contact these people All the time Alright so we've got Seven inductees Are you ready

To bring them in Are you ready To not be a Grumpy negative ass When Dave does An amazing job Okay Dave used to do such a great job.

Don't get me wrong. Oh, my God. He used to. When? When did I do a good job at this? Early days, but I feel like you've lost the passion. Anyway, let's see if it has returned when we welcome in from Seattle in Washington, United States, Stephanie P.

Stephanie P, the one for me. Come on down. Stephanie. Oh, maybe he's back. And from four ways in, ZA. Is that Switzerland or something? No. Where would I get Switzerland from ZA?

ZA. ZA. Jeez, that's halted. Yeah, it could be. ZA. Oh, South Africa. Ah. Oh, pardon us.

Z-A... Oh, South Africa. Ah. Oh, pardon us. From South Africa, from four ways in South Africa, it's Beatrix Williams. Beatrix Williams from four ways. Four way stop. Everyone stop. Beatrix is here.

Yes. Come on. Come on through, Beatrix. Keep talking. I don't know if I fully understand. Shut up. From Covington In Kentucky

In the United States It's Ray Jan Wilson You can call him Ray You can call him Jan You can call him Wilson But we'll call him Ray Jan Wilson Yes And welcome

From St. John In Indiana In the United States It's Cathy Payon Oh Cathy Pay on Cathy's paying off Paying off Yes From Indiana in the United States is Kathy Payonk. Oh, Kathy Payonk. Kathy's paying off. Paying off.

Yes. From Zephyr Illison, Florida in the United States is Albert Favre. Sorry, that pronunciation really put me off. Albert Favre. Favre. Just your lack of confidence in the word. It's very funny. Favre. You're my Favre. Yeah, okay. Just your lack of confidence in the word. It's very funny. Favre.

You're my Favre. Yeah, okay, great. Yes, good. From Oxnard in California in the United States, it's Brian Stafford. We're running out of steam. We really are. You were on the momentum.

Oxnard is a Foxnard. Yes, Brian. And finally, from Austin, Texas, stay weird. In the United States, it's Alec Ruiz Guerrero. Ruiz, more like Rulers. Yeah, Alec's Rulers. Welcome into the club, Alec, Brian, Albert, Kathy, Ray-Jan, Beatrix, and Stephanie. And that brings us to the end of the episode.

Bob, do we have to tell them anything before we go? Just if you want to suggest a topic, you can do so. There's a link in the show notes. You can also do it at dogoonpod.com. And you can follow us on all social media, dogoonpod across all those, and dogoonpod at gmail.com if you want to flick us an email. Love that.

Nice. Hey, we'll be back next week with another episode, as we always are. But until then, I'll say thank you and I'll say goodbye. Laters Bye In April 1990 Oh jeez a couple of friends of mine

are almost born around that time. Daryl and Jen Jessington. Jen Jessington? Jen Jessington. Daryl and Jen Jessington. Are they married? Is that a couple? No, no, they're brother and sister.

Oh, okay. They were twins. Two of my friends. They were born in 1990. It doesn't matter. I don't know what... Well, if they say brother and sister and they, okay. Twins. Two of my friends. I was born in 1990. It doesn't matter. I don't know what- Well, if they say brother and sister and they were both born that year, they're either born- Oh, yeah.

Maybe nine months apart, Jess. Okay. That's literally what I was about to say. Oh, Jess. You rude fuck. One was born early in the year. I'm not sure why you brought up Daryl and Jen, but yeah, they're great people. Daryl and Jen.

Jessington. Yes. Let's move on. I was looking around the room. They sound so hot, though. They sound really hot, they're great people. Daryl and Jen Jessington. Yes, let's move on. Someone's looking around the room. They sound so hot, though. They sound really hot. They're cool people. And not annoying at all.

No way. And they've definitely fucked. Oh, for sure. Not each other. Not each other. Not each other, to be very clear. We did say they're brother and sister, but... We can wait for clean water solutions.

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