Do Go On - 355 - Mission: Impossible

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

Mission: Impossible is one of the highest grossing film franchises of all time - join guest Marcel Blanch-de Wilt as we go through the whole lot in one of our longest and Mission Impossiblest episodes... yet!Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: dogoonpod.com or patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCheck out Marcel's website! : https://marcelblanchdewilt.com/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/ Check out our new merch! : https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Come see us live! : https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Episode of To Go On, my name is Jess Perkins. And as always, I'm here with Matt Stewart.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Hey, Jess, so good to be here. It is great to be alive. It is good to be alive. That's the catchphrase you were trying to get going a little while ago. And it has taken off. It's back. You can get your It's Good to Be Alive t-shirts at It's Good to Be Alive.com. I don't know why I've gone immediately into this.
Starting point is 00:01:14 kind of announce a voice, but I'm stuck in it. We are not... We don't have Dave with us still. He's still in Europe. He's jaunting. He's having a great time around Europe. He's not thinking about us once. Sometimes we message him and he's like,
Starting point is 00:01:28 who is this? And that hurts. That's rude. But we are delighted to be joined by our friend. Hmm. Okay. An actor, comedian, improviser, and very tall. It is Marcel.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Blanche de Wilt Oh, it's a thrill to be here. I hope not many people when you said Dave still isn't here that just went click. He's my favourite. Look, probably. Yeah, probably some.
Starting point is 00:01:58 And that's got nothing to do with you. It's definitely to do with us. And Dave, universally, every year being voted as everyone's favourite report doer. Interesting. Which, does it hurt? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:12 But is he also our favourite? Yeah. Not anymore. I'm my favourite now. In terms of a sandwich metaphor, like, are you guys the bread and he's the filling? I feel like he's the bread and we're the filling. Yeah, he's the boring bit. Yeah, where the flavour.
Starting point is 00:02:27 To contain everything. Yeah. And where the... He's structural. Yeah. Well, look, we're delighted that you're here. Because obviously when one of the three of us is away, it means the other two have to do more report writing. Which obviously we love, grateful, hashtag blessed to have this incredible opportunity.
Starting point is 00:02:44 But you reached out because you're in Melbourne doing some gigs, catching up with friends, and you said, hey, like, I listen to the pod. Could I come and do a report? I want to crash the pod. I want to crash the pod. And I said, oh, God, yes. Absolutely. Amazing timing. So we're delighted to have you.
Starting point is 00:03:02 So this is going to be a lot of fun. I know what the topic is. Oh, I don't know. So maybe I'm the only one with hands on buzzers. You'll get to have a guess. Well, maybe first I'll explain the show to new listeners. and the way it works is normally one of the three of us goes away and research as a topic, usually suggested by a listener,
Starting point is 00:03:20 and then bring back that new knowledge in the form of a sort of an old high school report and we do a little oral presentation while the other two people quietly and respectfully listen and don't annoyingly jump in with tedious tangents. Never interrupt. Never riff. Why would you? And this week, Marcel is doing the report
Starting point is 00:03:40 and we always get onto the topic with a question. Marcel, what is your question? My question is, what a $3.5 billion franchise wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Lucille Ball? Oh, that's a good question. I love Lucy as a $3.5 billion franchise. You're not familiar with that franchise? Yeah, I think Ricardo was doing well.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I didn't know he was doing that well. Lucille Ball. Oh, shit. I don't think thinking Lucille Ball was. Okay, that won't help. All right, just think big franchises. Big franchises. We've done Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Lord of the Rings. We're talking about movie franchise? Oh, I can give you that clue. Yeah, we're talking movies. I don't know how many other franchises that don't have movies of that ilk. Yeah, true. It wasn't her green lighting at the Halo Games or something like that. Call of Duty.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Something Pixar-related? I reckon think like the, I'm pretty sure Dave's a big fan of this franchise. Indiana Jones? No. Dave's a big Frant. Oh, Poirot. The Poirot franchise.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah, those later ones They really took off. Kenneth Brana. Yeah, they're big. Oh, no, we've done James Bond. Big movie. Oh, Chris Platt. Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:04:57 It's not Jurassic Park. It's not Jurassic Park. What's his name? Prat. I was getting him confused with Justin Plap, who was an old Richmond football. Plap. Plap.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Plap. Plap. Plap was a name. Plap. Oh, my God. We're not going to have any time the rest of the episode. It's just getting a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Katie Holmes ex-husband. Oh, Tom fucking Cruitt, Mission Impossible. That's correct. I love these movies as well. Oh, a big fan of the Mission Impossible series. Dave hates it, doesn't he? Oh, he hates Tom Cruise. Okay, yeah, I should have said,
Starting point is 00:05:29 I knew one of you liked it. Sorry, I thought it was Dave. He hates Tom Cruise. Yeah, he hates some Cruz. I'm riding. I feel like I've come in and be like, oh, now that Dave's away. I talk about his most hated thing.
Starting point is 00:05:41 This is like, evil podcast version. Yeah, so you're going to talk about Tom Cruise and food with flavor. I hate, I hate pies. Oh, that's great. I watch all these movies in one of the lockdowns, and I'm looking forward to the new one coming out soon. Oh, so am I. Should we get stuck into it? Yes, absolutely. Well, I've been working on this for a while. I'm a big fan of the show, and it's the first time doing a report. So I sort of threw myself in here. So, first I sort of threw myself in here. So, feel free, if I ever go off, you know, into some sort of fugue state, you can steer me back,
Starting point is 00:06:17 you know, and go, Marcel, we don't know what's going on anymore. Bring it back, buddy, bring it back. Well, can I bring it back now? What's a fugue state? Fugue state, if you're, I remember, I first learned the term in Breaking Bad when Walter White had to figure out an explanation for like why he, I think he disappeared for a while. And I think he got naked and then walked into a supermarket. And then Skyler was like, oh, something's medical has happened to you because of your cancer and he's yeah I went into a fugue state but really he was doing meth stuff yeah oh meth state yeah yeah so a fugue state I guess is a meth state it's it's when you've it's when you've left your body yeah I've just checked the hat
Starting point is 00:06:55 to see if anyone suggested it's never been suggested yeah right I was assuming someone would have interesting which means no one is interested no I really are I mean you heard Michelle brazier come on and talk for three hours about Fast and Furious franchise and that um and And Michelle was worried, to be honest, we were a little worried that people wouldn't enjoy that. They loved it. I loved it too, and I think I listened to it over about three or four sittings. Yeah, I think that's the way I do it. I always sit down to listen to my mother in my podcast chair, of course.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Some people have reading nooks. My challenge will be to beat, not like, beat it by going under that runtime. Okay, great. Well, you've got a good chance. Every other episode we've ever done, beat it in that way. I think it had been like half an hour and she'd finished the first film and I was like, there's so many more films.
Starting point is 00:07:48 All right, so I'll give you a quick little overview of in relation to the question. So Desi Lou Productions was an American television production company founded and co-owned by husband and wife, Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball. The company is best known for shows such as I Love Lucy, The Lucy Show, Manix, The Untouchables, Mission Impossible, and Star Trek.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Oh, wow. They've got a lot of big, big names under their belt. There's a recent, was there a recent series where Nicole Kidman played her or like a biopic or something? Yeah, I didn't,
Starting point is 00:08:20 I didn't see that. I didn't get huge reviews. I wonder if they got into the Mission Impossible. Just a lot of scenes of her going, what's about this Mission Impossible thing? Wink. I love those scenes,
Starting point is 00:08:30 that will never take off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the origin of some tedious thing. It's like, and that's how that character got a mustache. Yes, I was the start of the Poirot movie. So, folks, your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to listen to this report. This podcast will destruct in, self-destruct in five seconds.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Oh my God, no. All right, so let's talk about why I love these movies. I love Vastna Furious as well. If Michelle hadn't done Fast and Furious, that would have been my first thing. I love silly movies. I love a heist movie. I love a caper. I love a movie that ends with the villain going,
Starting point is 00:09:10 oh, how did you do that? Love a bit of that action. It would have been, I mean, she left room for someone to do an episode about the Fast and the Furious makings of. She didn't really give any details. It was just plot. How do you feel about a romp? I love, my favorite genre is a romp.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah, great. You mentioned Thor, that's a romp. A lot of people didn't love the last Thor. I love a romp. I did, I liked it too. I was surprised to hear that people didn't like it. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. The mummy, that's a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:37 A romp. Mommy is a romp. Yeah, best kind of films. A romp. And they don't make enough romps these days. And I love it like a, I love a marvel because like there's lots of action and fight sequences. And you're like, these fight sequences are completely unrealistic. I love it.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I love a spaceman and a god having a fight. So fun. It's a bit of fun. In a world like this at the moment, oh, give me a little bit of light relief. That's what my mom would always say if we watched. Often it was a bad movie. like you chose a wrong movie on a Friday night from the rental place and then credits are rolling no one really had a great time and she'd go well that was that was light yeah she's still
Starting point is 00:10:18 trying to look at the silver lining yeah i've heard some parents would be like well that was a waste of time i'm like oh what a what a what a bad feeling to leave after sharing a time with your family going well great choice matt that's sucked that's the last time you're choosing time with you i'm not going to confide in you again marcelle if you keep divvary I'm indulging my secret memories. Secret memories. Why do you have that blog titled Mattsecretmemories.com? Shush, my fell.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I'm also a big fan of any movies or TV shows where you can say out loud to the TV screen. How are they going to get out of this one? That's always, and I always annoy my wife by doing that a lot. I realize that was a little Simpsons reference to Treehouse of Horror 9, when Bart and Lisa are trapped in the itchy and scratchy show. Homer looks at the TV and says how I'm Bart and Lisa going to get out of this one. It's always just see it into my brain. So I'm going to give you an overview of the TV series,
Starting point is 00:11:19 and then I'm going to run through the movies. I'm going to give you a little bit of plot, a little bit of behind the scenes, some of the trivia, my favorite bits, the most iconic bits that people would know, you know, Tom Cruise's insane stunts and stuff. But yeah, I've absorbed. a lot of what I didn't write down as well. So I'm also on hand to like, you can test me on things.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Right. What do you think of? Because this is one of the things that Dave really hates about Tom Cruise that he does his own stunts. He's like, who cares? Get a stunt man to do it. Dave reckons. He's taking the job of a stunt man.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah, well, the Rock had a statement about this. Do you see this? He believes strongly in giving stuntmen the roles because if the Rock injures himself, then like how many millions of? dollars that's going to take until that movie can resume production. So like the responsibility side. Cruz. He's the first famous one.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Pretty much. And it becomes a marketing thing to be like, oh, this guy did all these old stunts. Or like, oh, the marketing around this scene was actually improvised. Yuck. I hate that stuff. I think I've just started because I've been, I was watching a few other Tom Cruise action movies this week. And it started to make me think about the actions.
Starting point is 00:12:37 scenes, I'm like, I'm thinking about them filming it while they're going on. I'm like, oh, this isn't helpful. I shouldn't know anything about the process. Yeah, just let me, just let it wash over me. You're about to ruin that for this whole franchise, but I like it, especially fight scenes, if they can film the fight in like one nice tight shot and because they don't need to hide, that isn't really the actors, that's really nice because I love a good fight scene, hand to hand. And you go, oh, cool, they've done some cool, interesting choreography for that. If it's, some of those things where they're doing the real leap off a building and you're like, that could really be anyone doing that.
Starting point is 00:13:13 You didn't really need to break your ankle. That seems extreme. That seems extreme. But he also loves it. And also Tom Cruise is a producer and is also sort of, has insured himself for like whatever cost it takes for him to do his own stunts. So it's not like, everyone's like, hey, you're not getting paid for the next two months because I hurt my ankle.
Starting point is 00:13:33 They're still going to get that time covered and stuff. It seems like it's really important to him. I think he's, you know, his, Tom Cruise could have his own report about just him and, like, his brain and stuff, because that's a whole other thing of who is the man off screen. Yeah. Yeah, because we all know that he's done some questionable things in his private life. He's an odd guy.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I didn't know about the questionable things. Which is an odd, have you heard of Scientology, Matt? Yeah, okay. Didn't you give me that pamphlet on the way here? Yeah. Didn't you? You did a report on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Scientology. Yeah. But I, yeah, I knew he was a Scientologist, but yeah. I think, like knowing he does stunts, I think the less I know, the more I can enjoy his films. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why you love the films of Roman Polanski so much.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yeah. I don't want to know anything about personal life. He's a good stand-up guy, right? Your favorite film maker's Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, and Louis C. Sorry, I'm blowing up your spot, Matt. Sorry, I apologize. These are secret memories. Secret memories.
Starting point is 00:14:46 All right, so Mission Impossible, if you didn't know, started with a TV series that I said was greenlit by Lucille herself in the year. 1966, which I am told is around the time when Matt graduated high school. It's also the year the Saints one there won and only is VFL Premiership. There's other things that I think the Chicago. Bulls were founded that year. Oh really? Who Michael Jordan ended up playing with. Oh, Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 00:15:11 He famously wore two pairs of shorts. If you want to know the Bull Story, look it up. It is a ball terror. I've seen the, what is it, the last dance? I saw that. I didn't know it was a TV series. Is it begun as a TV series? And the theme song was from that?
Starting point is 00:15:28 I guess you're going to spend some time on that. Oh, you bet I'm going to mean from that theme song. Most of this report is the theme song. So it was created and initially produced by Bruce Geller. No relation to the Gellers from Friends. The show chronicled the exploits of a small covert team of secret government agents known as the Impossible Missions Force. Did you guys know that that's what IMF stands for?
Starting point is 00:15:52 Impossible Missions Force? And the sophisticated and subtle methods of deceiving, manipulating and thwarting, hostile iron curtain governments, third world dictators, corrupt industrialists and crime lords among others. That were your go-to thwarters. If you need something thwarted, IMF. Gosh, we need something thwarted.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Yeah, there's no one thwarting things anymore. No, sadly. Can't get, yeah, they can't, they don't thwart things like they used to. You look in the yellow pages under teeth of a thwart, and it's hard to find. Yeah, because who's got a yellow page? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So in the first season, the team is led by Dan Briggs, and then Jim Phelps takes over in the second season. I read that Dan Briggs, the actor who paid Dan Briggs, had a religious reason that he needed to end his, I think it was Jewish Orthodox and he had to end his workday by 4pm so he just became a struggle to work with. I think he's always, I've got to knock off at four.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So yeah, he got booted. So Phelps usually assembles the same core team of agents, all of whom have careers and some degree of celebrity outside of espionage. The team is occasionally supplemented by other specialists. So I'll tell you a little bit more about, that later on. So the inspiration from the series, I read about this from a Mission Impossible fan website
Starting point is 00:17:11 called Wikipedia.org. Oh, wow. You guys familiar? No. Just got Mission Impossible facts. Oh, wow. That sounds great. The TV series specifically?
Starting point is 00:17:22 I just have movie stuff as well. Anything Mission Impossible. You can find. The whole $3.5 billion dollar franchise. Indeed. Wow, that's cool. So a key inspiration for Geller was the 1964 for Jules Dassen film Top Capi, I did not look up how to pronounce that,
Starting point is 00:17:39 innovated for its methodical depiction of an elaborate heist. So this sort of started as a heist film sort of idea, which makes a lot of sense. Geller switched the focus away from criminals, but kept Dassen's style of minimal dialogue, prominent music scoring, and clockwork precision execution by a team of diverse specialists. Several episodes, in fact, show close-up shots of an agent's wristwatch to convey the suspense of working on a deadline. Good bit of product placement too. Oh, Tissau.
Starting point is 00:18:07 My Rolex says we only have 30 seconds to go. Because James Vondel always has like a fancy watch, but I think rarely, I mean, unless he's like got a lasso, what is it like a little, he shoots a little thing out of it. Really does he have a real good reason to check it? Geller also insisted on minimal character development because he felt that seeing the characters as blank slates would make them more convincing and undercover work and because he wanted to keep the focus on the caper. Geller vetoed attempts by writers to develop the main characters.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Even after Geller was removed from the show, the agents were rarely, if ever seen in their real lives and had only one scene where they interacted at Phelps apartment. So they were very bland. Even in like the first episode, the main actor did a little smirk after one of the missions and he was told by the producer not to smile, which I thought was very strange. That is so odd.
Starting point is 00:18:56 But you were saying that the characters initially, they all had celebrity double lives? Well, like, celebrity and term, I think they're using that word a bit broadly, but like they're like iconic
Starting point is 00:19:06 sort of things like this person's and like one of the team members is an actress. Yeah, right. So, like, she's like one of the most famous kinds of celebrities, myself.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Not a good example. But she's not a huge, like, superstar or whatever. But that's interesting because I don't think I know what Ethan, I don't think Ethan Hawke has a second life. He just lives on an island when he's not.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Ethan Hunt. Ethan Hunt. Ethan Hunt. Ethan Hawke is an actor. I don't think Ethan Hawke has a life. I don't think so. I'm not if you were just talking about Ethan Hogg as an example of just a guy. Ethan Hawke is an actor.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yes, Matt. I'm all of a sudden, I'm curious to see where Ethan Hunter, the character started. If he's from the TV show, I wonder if he'll get to Ethan Hawke at some point. Oh, my God. The suspense is killing me. You can't do. You're looking at your wristwatch. So in the show, there's, like, the origin of a few things, like, disguises and theatrics to trick people.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's, like, a lot about brains over brawn. Like, a lot of it is about how to entrap and, like, they use the term mouse traps a lot to, like, how can we trick people into, like, confessing to things? Cheese. Yeah, a lot of cheese being used. And I've always liked shows like MacGyver and things like Star Trek where they are. Often, it's not about... Another one of Lucille Ball's great works. This is true.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Like, it's not about beating up the bad guys and therefore you win. Like, it's about losing your wit, which I really like. Another iconic thing is that the mission briefing, you know, on those recordings. And they say, good morning, Mr. Phillips. And the tape message usually continues, your mission, Jim, should you choose, should you decide to accept it? And then that became choose to accept it for the big nerds. I like choose better. I like choose a lot.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And at the conclusion, the listener, is, reminded, as always, should you or any of your I.M. Force be caught or killed? The secretary would disavow any knowledge of your actions. Right. And then this tape will destruct in five seconds. Sometimes it was 10 seconds. There was some teething issues. Like, what's more exciting? Five seconds or 10 seconds? Sounds like a real toxic relationship between IMF and the agents, to be honest. Oh, we're not, we will disavow you if you do anything wrong. Oh, yuck. But we don't. We don't, know him. Oh, he's not with us.
Starting point is 00:21:31 No, that's not one of ours. No. I don't know who that guy is. Ethan Hunt, Ethan Hawke, I don't know. I know Ethan Hawke. Yeah. Is that who you talking about? Is that who you're talking about?
Starting point is 00:21:38 The actor, Ethan Hawke, who definitely has a second life outside of this. What? And then of course, and then of course there would be smoke that would come out of the tape that had the recording on it. In some early episodes, the chemical would be added to the tape. and then Briggs would blow air onto it, causing the chemical to react and destroy the recording. So it didn't self-destruct.
Starting point is 00:22:07 But interestingly, the word self-destruct was coined by the show's writers and became widely used after that. Isn't that interesting? Self-destruct didn't exist after that. This is from, of course, Wikipedia.org, so take everything with a grain of salt, of course. What if you hit play on the tape and then, like, your phone rang, or, like, the cat knocked something over,
Starting point is 00:22:28 And then you're like, shit, no, I didn't get my pen and paper. I missed what they said. And then it's gone. Yeah, that's true. I think a lot of these guys have really good memories. Wow, that must be part of the training. Because I would forget. So if I can't write it down, it's not happening.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah, you want to. Oh, did I find a pen? Yeah, yeah. Or I'm like, it's not in my Google calendar. I have no idea what you're talking about. Can you repeat that back? See me an E invite, please. Can you invite me?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Thank you. I know we had a phone call about this, but can you send me a follow up email? So I have it in writing. Yeah. That's very nice. So let's talk about the iconic theme composed by Lalo Schifrin who was born Boris Claudio Lalo Schifrin
Starting point is 00:23:07 in 1932 He's an Argentine American pianist composer, arranger and conductor He's best known for his large body of film and TV scores Since the 1950s incorporating jazz and Latin America musical elements Alongside traditional orchestrations He is a five-time Grammy Award winner and has been nominated for six Academy Awards and four Emmy Awards. And this theme was written in just three minutes.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Whoa. Three minutes. Yeah, it goes for five minutes. Even if you said three days, I was going to be impressed. Three minutes. Doesn't also mean, like, did you really try that hard as well? You'd be like, anyway. Just came to him.
Starting point is 00:23:47 But imagine not really trying that hard and you make something iconic. Yeah. I suppose. That's what I do every week right here on this very podcast. Oh, on this? Oh, okay. I don't know what you're referring to. Sterling on my radio work. He was asked about the theme where he was
Starting point is 00:24:04 he said, I was in Vienna and at a press conference and one lady asked me why I wrote Mission Impossible in five, four-time signature. Shiffran told the New York Post, I said, everybody knows that there have been beams from outer space coming because of the interplanetary flights.
Starting point is 00:24:22 The people in outer space have five legs and couldn't dance to our music, so I wrote this for them. Everyone knows that. That's fun. As Schifrin said, the reporter believed it and all the magazines in Vienna published. He must be like, oh my God. Who was I talking to? Sarcasm.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Come on. So it's just being a little bit cheeky. So then, on top of that, the TV series from 1966 was then rebooted in 1988, the year I was born. Coincidence? Or 1990. And then approximately 88 years before Matt's birth. Jim Phelps is back.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Before my birth. Wait, I'm not here yet. You are yet to be alive. You are yet to be alive. What a way to find out. Who writes this stuff? Did you get that from Wikipedia.org? They also have a section on Matt's secrets.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Oh, God. That's secret memories. So Jim Phelps has been brought back The same actor He's got a fresh team of recruits I watch one episode of this And you can find them on YouTube And it was fun to watch
Starting point is 00:25:33 Like it's very light, very silly So it opens with this So at a party at a high-rise apartment A man gets shot with a dart To make him hallucinate He's on fire Okay, so he gets hit with a dart And suddenly he's looking at his arms
Starting point is 00:25:47 He's like oh my arms are on fire My legs are in fire Now let me ask the two of you If this happened to you and you suddenly thought that you're on fire. You don't know you're hallucinating. You just suddenly think you're on fire. Stop, drop, roll.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Three words. What do you think you'd do, Jess? What I would do is I would run around the room flailing my on fire arms, trying to get as many people, things, things, pets, whatever, also on fire. Interesting. Okay, so the third answer was to jump out the window. That was my second option. And this is, because he got shot by an assassin.
Starting point is 00:26:22 you know, with this dart. So the assassin must have known, oh, I know what he'll do. He'll jump out the window. He'll obviously jump out the window. Obviously. Because otherwise his plan, because he also leaves after he shoots him with the dart to not be suspected.
Starting point is 00:26:36 And he just goes, yeah, well, he'll definitely jump out. What else could you possibly do? And especially like high-rise apartments, usually pretty hard to open a window. It's true. Or the windows are quite solid. This is very true. But he just jumps out a window. That's the worst thing you can do.
Starting point is 00:26:51 That's a terrible idea. You don't want to starve it of oxygen. There wasn't even like a big pool underneath or anything like that. Jump in the shower. You know where the most oxygen is outside? That's true. You're just jumping right into oxygen. That's dumb.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And surely you would assume that he's going to at least go into a bath or a shower or... A tap of any kind. To overturn his fish tank, you know? Throw a drink at me. Yeah, throw a drink. Do you want me a throw a drink at you? Yeah, this wasn't... I also talked about it in the scene.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I'm just saying. hey Marcel can you throw a drink at me please and then let's get back to whatever you're going to. I was listening. So it's like the show's very camp and silly. Once again it's more about trapping criminals so in this episode that I watched
Starting point is 00:27:37 the assassin from the start has killed Jim's best friend so this is what brings Jim back into the field and there's even when he goes to the funeral for his friend the Mission Impossible theme is playing but it's a sad version of the missing and all the composer and all the composers the composers for all the movies after that do play around with the mission impossible theme in
Starting point is 00:27:55 different sort of ways which is cool um so they they need to trap this guy to get his like his main contact so and so they they go to they recruit um a spy who's also a drama teacher which i think is delightful as a drama teacher myself um i think that's great because i also that means i could be called up to be a spy absolutely yeah as some sort of celebrity yeah a drama teacher space jump You'd be able to do stuff like that, which is really cool. But really they are sort of doing like a immersive theatre on this guy because they pick up the assassin in a taxi. And this guy's Australian and he's doing an Australian accent
Starting point is 00:28:32 but pretending to be British. You know, and like, because Americans don't have good ear for accents. This Australian guy's sort of doing British, but he just sounds completely Australian. Americans don't have good ears for accents. I didn't know that. You haven't heard that? You know how you never encountered an American, they're like,
Starting point is 00:28:47 oh, are you British? You never had that situation before. Yeah, that's right. That's true. They don't have a good ear. Like, if you ask an American, I'm speaking very generally to do an Australian accent. Like, it is wild. I think we sound like.
Starting point is 00:28:58 It just feels like they're too separate the kinds of accents. Like, it's easier, I'm guessing, but it feels like it would be easier for us generally to do an English accent than to do an American accent. Would that be fair? But there's so many Australian actors who work in Hollywood with American accents, I guess. I just think Americans, as far as I've encountered them, are very in their own little part of the universe. Right. They don't really think much about it. I'm just talking generally. I can do American or English equally. Can you show us a little taste? Yeah. Do you need a phrase to say? Yeah, well, ask me a question. Oh, where's your favorite restaurant in Melbourne? A favorite restaurant in Melbourne. Let me have a think here. Where are you from again? I'm from America. I'm from America.
Starting point is 00:29:43 America. What part of America? No, Massell is from America. I'm from the Midwest. And, uh, yeah, I'm from the Midwest. And, uh, I'm from America. And, uh, I'm from America. Or, you know, the California coast. I've actually traveled around. I accent's a little muddle because of that. But I, yeah, I love a little bagel place down on third. Down on third. Yeah, down on third. And talk to Keith there.
Starting point is 00:30:06 He's fantastic. And he'll hook you up if you tell him my name, which is Johnny Pazazaz. Well, I mean, this was awkward that, like, someone named Johnny Pazazzoz happened to walk in and interrupt Matt's infestation. Matt was about to do that in first. nation then Johnny Pazaz walks in. Awkward.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Matt, do you want to try it now now that Johnny Pazazaz is left? No, I mean, we've already had an American. I could do an English one if you like. Oh, okay. Yeah, sure. Would you ask me a question?
Starting point is 00:30:34 Jess, do you want to ask this question? Yeah, I'll ask a question. Hey, Matt, what are you doing tonight? Am I doing tonight? Good question, that. Probably head over to this great bagel place on Ferd. Talk to Keefe. He'll look up.
Starting point is 00:30:50 after you. Just told him, I sent you, my name is Johnny Possess. Oh, that's so weird that another guy named Johnny Possess, what good night before you're going to do that impersonation? Matt, do you want to do the actual impersonation? What, I mean, I don't know. What is this bloody central station here? Everyone's coming in and out.
Starting point is 00:31:10 We're trying to podcast here. God. Honestly, we probably should get back to the report, but I would have loved to have had a go. But what's great as well? So you might have heard about the people using masks and disguises in the Mission Impossible series. So in the 1998 version, they don't have the technology where they're getting a computer chip attached to their neck or whatever that changes their voice. In this one, they're just very good at impersonating people. So there's multiple scenes in this one episode where they're listening to a recording of the assassin and the guy's going,
Starting point is 00:31:46 oh let me just try and see if I can get this voice a little bit deeper a little bit up and then it swaps to a dubbing over so it's just the other actor doing the voice and it's so amazing like oh I've nailed it now that's awesome that is very good it's very very funny because it would have been hard
Starting point is 00:32:05 like the mask thing I guess would have been harder to pull off with smaller TV budgets in the 80s yeah I mean there's a lot of disguises I was listening to a podcast called Like the Fuse that digs deeper in... Like, they've got like over 100 episodes on everything Mission Impossible. Wow. And they were a great resource
Starting point is 00:32:22 and there are some episodes, I believe there's an episode where they are disguised as people from Arabic people, I believe they were described as. So they do a little bit of brown face in the show which is a little awkward in today's world. It's a heart, it takes you out of it, doesn't it? When you're watching something, you're like, you know, it's dated, but it's a bit of fun.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Oh, no. Oh, no, I'm not enjoying anymore. Oh, whoopsie Daisy. So let's get stuck into the movies, which is really why we're here. I just wanted to tell you a little bit about the TV series to get us stuck into it. So, as I say, they've made over $3.5 billion to date at the 16th highest grossing film series of all time. Wow. Name a top 15.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Just go. Series. Sound of music, one and two. There's a second movie? There's a second one. It's not good. Do the Nazis come back? Nazis get them.
Starting point is 00:33:17 It's not good. Sound music too. Nazis fight back. Less sounds of music. I actually don't worry about the rest of that list. So the general formula, if you don't know, the general shape of these movies, you're like, Act 1, a mission doesn't quite go to plan. Act 2, they have an extremely tricky mission.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Some might say impossible mission to try and pull off. Then Act 3 is usually the show day. or like a third mission to make up for the main mission not quite going to plan. That's usually the sort of framework. Did they play around with the different title? Mission a bit tricky? Mission pretty tough. I'm sure there was a pretty, I'm sure there's a million parodies of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I'm sure there are. I should also, you should forgive me because also this movie series is called mission colon impossible. So sorry about that. I didn't make that quite clear. It's mission colon, impossible. I don't know if I like it. I mean, it makes sense grammatically. I understand the need for it.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Yeah, where would I put the colon? Probably, uh, uh, in the, in my guts. Oh. I reckon. I would have just used it. That's where I put the colon. Yeah, I think that's where it belongs. Get it back in there.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I think you should take it off this table and put it back where it fucking belongs. Do you have a colon? Yeah, I have a colon. I hope so. Otherwise, this is a medical emergency. Yeah, probably. Do I have a colon? Can I get a colon?
Starting point is 00:34:51 I had a brief moment where I was thinking of it like a prostate. I was like, I don't have one of those, do I? Wait, is colon? Is that the technical one for a dick and balls? Is that big a ball? Have I got one of those or not? It's fine on the way. I'm coming a special report just on the colon.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Yeah, right. So Mission Impossible, 1996. What were you guys doing in 1996? I was in I was probably the year I was in prep first year of school I think or was that 90% Yeah that sounds right yeah
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah I was I was redoing year seven For I think a hundred Time or so Oh really? Yeah yeah It just didn't take Yeah
Starting point is 00:35:34 It took me a long time to get through school Hundreds of years Yeah right When he got there We're very proud of him Yeah So this one was directed by Brian De Palma He's famous for the Untouched
Starting point is 00:35:44 Scarface and also I found out the music video for Relax by Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Quite an oeuvre, as they say. Classic. So Brian DePama wanted to make his own thing as evidenced by this behind-the-scenes anecdote. So the person responsible for directing more episodes of the original Mission Impossible Televen series that anyone else was asked by the head of Paramount Pictures to be present on the set for consulting and advising. Director Brian DePalmer approached him and told him how much he had indeed. enjoyed the original series, he also added that the movie would be nothing like the television show and that his presence on the set would only result in making both of them uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And then Reza, the director, thanked him for his honesty and left the set never to return. Oh, that's awkward. But I kind of liked that as well. Paramount said, oh, you should come and be present and then Brian's going like, don't worry about it. It'll be a waste of your time. And the guy's like, sick. Thanks for telling me. It is boring to hang out on film sets.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Film sets are so boring. They're incredibly boring. Imagine if the, and you don't have anything really to do. Yeah, exactly. Which is what most people are most of the time, right? Yeah. It's a lot of sitting and waiting. Waiting to be consulted.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Hey, what do you reckon about this shot? Yeah. You reckon it's good that I've filmed the actors in it or something? Yeah, it's good. I think it was a good choice to film the actors. Do you usually point the camera at the actors when you were doing the Mission Impossible TV series? cameras are a bit bigger, aren't they? Anyway, thanks to stop and bye.
Starting point is 00:37:20 That's a big help, thanks, man. I get your cuppa, oh, you just want to head off. Yeah, all right, they're right. So this feels a little bit like a gritty reboot, and I feel like Batman Begins was like when people started using the term gritty reboot, but I feel like the 90s had its share of gritty reboots. Like, even movies like Golden Eye,
Starting point is 00:37:37 which came up the year before, had a little bit of grittiness to it, a lot of, like, post-Cold War movies, Batman 1990 at the time was a gritty rebut of the 1960s ones I don't know that much about the Bond films but I didn't realize Pierce Brosnan was part of the gritty reboot but I guess because before that was Roger Moore was like even sillier or something yeah I mean that golden night in
Starting point is 00:37:59 comparison to the other ones is much more grounded it's way sillier compared to Casino Royale but like at the time it was a it was a shift yeah and you got Judy Dench turning up you know I love you Judy There's no one grittier. There's no one grittier than Jude. I love her team.
Starting point is 00:38:19 It was written by David Kep who wrote Jurassic Park and one of my all-time favorite Alec Baldwin movies, The Shadow. Have you guys ever seen The Shadow? No. I think I've seen it. Is that like an old comic book or something? It is. It was based on a noir radio show and turned into a movie.
Starting point is 00:38:38 It's delightful. It's very camp and silly if you're into that sort of thing. Do you guys like romps? Yeah, I love a romp. Oh, my God, I love a romp. It was produced by Tom Cruise and Paula Wagner, so all the Mission Impossible movies have been produced by Cruz, so he's always had a level of control.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Some might say Cruise Control. Sorry, I did not write that down, but I felt in my head. It had to be said out loud. I paused to see if anyone else was going to take that out. You said it, and then you did a mat and instantly regretted it, kind of, but you've also delighted in it, which is beautiful to watch. Some might say Cruise Control. I was going to get that clean in case you need it for the edit.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Dave would have said it for sure if Dave was here. I'm talking like he's dead. Yeah. RIP, moment of silence. Dead to us. RIP. Rest in pie. Rest in pie.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Rest in pie. Unlike Michelle, I'm going to, my summaries of the movies, I'm going to use the wiki synopsis and then I'm just going to pull out a bunch of other things. So if the movies don't seem super clear, feel free to shake. me if you want. Wiki does. It copts a bit of shit, but it does some things really well. And synopsuses are often the best ones online on the Wiki.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I think so too. So, in the first movie, Ethan Hunt is framed for the murder of his IMF team during a botched mission in Prague and accused of selling government secrets to an arms dealer known only as Max. On the run, Ethan seeks to uncover the real trader and clear his name. Intriguing. I don't think, like, you know, an anonymous kind of person only known as Max. It's not that, I don't know, it's just not very intimidating. What's a better name? Like, as in it should be like only known as the Baron.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Oh, that's good. You know, but just like Max. Yeah, Mr. X. Something of a bit more mystery, but it's like Max. I know people call Max and they're lovely. So I'm not intimidated by that. Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe we can get on the phone to Brian.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Yeah, what about skull face? Yeah, known only as skullface. Should I redo it? Yeah. Ethan Hunt is framed for the murder of his IMF team during a botched mission in Prague and accused of selling government secrets to an arms dealer known only as skullface. Yes, so now I'm watching that movie. Just got a chill.
Starting point is 00:40:57 He got chills. Every time Max comes up later on, I'll just say skullface. Thank you. That's it. Max is his first name. Max Scull face. So Ethan Hunt, I was surprised to find out that Ethan Hunt was an original character created for Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I assumed that, you know, he must be in the original series. And did you know that Tom Cruise's full name is Thomas Cruz, Mapather, the fourth? No? Cruz is his middle name. I believe so, according to... His surname is Mapather. Mapather. I don't know if...
Starting point is 00:41:28 And this is why Cruz maybe deserves his own thing, because I don't know if that's also like a Scientology name, like his alien name or something. Mapitha. Like the fourth. I don't know why that fourth is there. Like that seems extremely. But anyway It's also just kind of weird
Starting point is 00:41:42 to think of him as a Thomas You know This is true He's not a Thomas Yeah some people You're just so used to their Shorten name Like like okay
Starting point is 00:41:49 So like my friend Mish Whitrop If we're ever out And she has to put her name down For something And she says Michelle I'm like what? Who is that
Starting point is 00:41:58 Who the hell is Michelle? You're Mish Very different Yeah Or when I We go out And I put my name down As Matt's Alexander
Starting point is 00:42:07 You're like what I didn't know that's what it was short for, but it is, yeah. Matt Alexander. Matt Alexander. It's long and it's stupid, but it's insane. We love him. We love him. So this first movie is more espionage than action.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Not only is the only film the franchise when Ethan Hunt doesn't fire a gun. It's the only one to not have any shootouts or gun fights. There's only five gunshots in the whole movie. Wow. Isn't that wild? Because I watched them all back to back to back in a week. they're all blurred together. But this is the one of the classic drop down on the wire.
Starting point is 00:42:44 You better believe it is. Drop of sweat sort of thing. That is iconic thing. Simpson's probably parodied that, I would have thought. I think everyone's had a little go. Just like everyone did their own Matrix parody. Everyone did their mission impossible. So the team, I won't tell you too much about the team that gets killed off in act
Starting point is 00:43:01 one besides Emilio Estevez. Oh, yeah. That was shocking because you're watching the film going, he obviously survives. he won't get crushed by this elevator. That's exactly what I wrote to. And I think that was deliberate that. I wanted at least one face in that first team that you're going,
Starting point is 00:43:19 oh, okay, cool, we're going to be with Emilio for the whole movie. And like, I watched this as, I would have been about seven at the time. I had older brothers. And it's a PG-13 M-rated movie in Australia. So, like, it is, that means you sort of watch your parental guidance. But it's pretty violent. Like, first scene, Emilio is getting smushed by this elevator. And then, like, also blades come out at the top that he gets sort of impaled by.
Starting point is 00:43:42 You don't see it all, but it's heavily implied. And as a kid, that was always sort of worse. Real nightmare fuel stuff. Yeah, like in that movie, remember you ever see that movie, Volcano, where, like, the guy gets melted in the subway? Oh, no, I did see Donte's Peak, which I think came out about the same time when the volcano movies were big. And the grandma gets melted in the river. Yeah. With the boat, is that?
Starting point is 00:44:04 Yeah, she pushes the boat. And you rewatch that movie, I don't know how much you really. needed to jump out and push that boat. I think she just won't, she was just tired. Yeah. Yeah. Time to go. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Wow. This is hard. I was wrong to doubt the mountain. Oh, I, um, yeah, I, um, reckon around the same time I remember seeing a movie called executive decision. Mm-hmm. And I don't know if this was a big thing at the time where they, they'd kill off a big
Starting point is 00:44:32 character that you didn't expect. Because Stephen Seagal, I think it was sort of like top build in the film almost. And he died in the first 10 minutes. Really? I thought like Stevens to go out a clause in his contract that he can never lose a fight. Oh. That's interesting. Maybe it was after this movie.
Starting point is 00:44:46 And he might have sort of marred himself or something. I can't remember. Interesting. Interesting. He might have personally made the executive decision to kill himself. That's the titular executive decision. Kill himself off in the movie. So Brian De Palma doesn't really do fun for the whole family moves, which the movie sort of evolved to become.
Starting point is 00:45:05 After the original team has killed, Ethan Hunt has to put a new team together. He recruits Luther Stickle, played by Ving Rhames, perhaps most famous for playing Marcellus Wallace in Pulp Fiction, and Krieger played by Jean Reno, acclaimed French actor. You might know him from movies like The Professional or Godzilla, the 1990s Godzilla. And also Claire, played by Emmanuel Bierre, joins them as the only other survivor from the botched mission, who used to have a relationship with Jim Phelps, who's a retort. who's a returning character who gets the mission. So the movie opens with Jim Phelps, played by John Voight this time. The original actor did not come back, receiving his mission on a passenger jet via an in-flight movie on a videotape.
Starting point is 00:45:50 So this really shows like the era. He lights a cigarette on the plane to disguise the tape, self-destructing. So it's a cool little opening moment. That's interesting. I didn't realize he was a returning character. That's great. That adds a little sum. I don't know how to put my finger on it.
Starting point is 00:46:07 I like a little fan service-y sort of things. Yeah, yeah. Sort of certain sort of fan genusacroix. Oh, interesting. I don't know if you could have been a French there. That's something that Leon, the professional might have said. We're introduced to Hinton his team at the end of a mission, using masks and trickery to get their target to give up his secrets.
Starting point is 00:46:28 It's a classic IMF-style moment from the TV show, doing a bit of theater to trick the baddies. Each movie, I'll mention some of the cool gadgets. that feature. It's never James Bond sort of levels, but they always have a few things. Masks are a big fixture of the films, like I mentioned before.
Starting point is 00:46:46 They always love a mask reveal where they pull off their mask and that they were a different person than the person we thought they were. And it's the same as the voice version in the old TV shows. It's like they just fully change actor, obviously. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And then it's just that mask coming off and the mask on the ground. You're like, that. didn't do this. There's no way. There's no way. I'm sure this first film, Ethan Hunt,
Starting point is 00:47:16 goes in under disguise, but it's clearly Tom Cruise in disguise, but every other disguise is perfectly the other actor. Yeah, the senator that he's doing the impression of also looks a lot like Tom Cruise. So like him doing the disguise is just him. But it makes sense because otherwise
Starting point is 00:47:31 that whole first mission, you wouldn't have a Tom Cruise performance in it. So it does make sense. Yeah, it had to be in there for that reason. Otherwise, you're like, where's Tom? Where's the guy I bought the ticket for? There's also this movie features explosive chewing gum as well. It's green on one side and red on the other.
Starting point is 00:47:49 So then when you combine it, it explodes. And Emilio explains to Hunt, he says, red light, green light to explain how it works. Which is an explanation, I suppose. Yeah. So what are you supposed to do with it? You smush them together and then like, smush it on whatever you need to explode. You're over to, you're over explaining.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Jess, red light green light. Sorry, got it. I'm just thinking like, I mean, you know, you might need to explode a wall to stop. But why not just give somebody the chewy and then they chew it and then they explode? Yeah, I mean. Yeah, I mean, how many guys are accepting the chewy that you need to,
Starting point is 00:48:29 if like, if you've been captured by them, you're like, hey, before. Stand next to that wall. and chew on this. Just saying. Oh, your breath stings. Here you go. I'll look after you.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Sorry, I'm the good cop. I won't tell anybody how bad your breath is. So Kittredge is a big character in this first movie. He's the director of IMF. And after the first mission goes to shit, Eugene Kittridge meets Hunt in a restaurant in Prague and accuses him of being the mole that destroyed the mission. The mole is just trying to get the knock list, which is a list of undercover agents, real identities.
Starting point is 00:49:09 This is the MacGuffin of the first movie. Every movie has a MacGuffin. None of the MacGuffins really matter in terms of what they actually do. They just need something to chase, of course. This scene is full of Dutch tilts to create unease and tension. And I appreciate the Dutch tilt as a Dutch person, a big fan. What are your thoughts on the Dutch oven? Not a fan.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Interesting. My wife hates that. Your peer, you're picking and choosing what Dutch are like. I love all Dutch things. Dutch pancakes? Dutch history? Uh-oh. Don't look into it too much.
Starting point is 00:49:46 So realizing that Hunt is in a sticky situation, he uses his explosive chewing gum on the nearby giant fish tank and leaps out the restaurant. It's a really great scene where he dives out the window. And Kittridge is like, what am I going to do? I'm surrounded by fish. He's trying to pick up the fish. somebody get buckets of water quick. They're flipping and flopping on the ground.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Hitchard loves fish. I love this fish. I need to chase him, but I love fish too much. When they use editing in that sort of way to don't show like why they couldn't really pursue the guy, you know, like there's not really a good reason why he could get away in that situation. But most of these movies is Ethan Hunt on the run or having to pretend he's on the run.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And Kittred becomes his pursuer for the rest of the movie. So he's having, Hunt is having to find. who the mole is after his whole team is dead while also Kittridge at IMF is like, we've got to get Hunt because we think Hunt is the mall. And who's Kittrich again? He's the director of the
Starting point is 00:50:42 IMF. And the actor, that's not Voight. No, what's the... Voight is Jim Phelps who dies in the first mission. Oh yeah, of course. His mission goes... He was played by Emilio Estavis. No. Was Void? What was played by Estabez?
Starting point is 00:50:57 Estabez is just a tech guy. Okay. Man in the van. He's the Simon Peg character. He's the man on top of an elevator for some reason. So unlike most of the future movies where you know who the villain is from the start, this movie is like, oh, who's the mysterious
Starting point is 00:51:11 mole? Who is the villain? Hunt meets Max, who's played by Vanessa Redgrave. She's a shady underworld broker. Sorry, Skullface. Did we say Skullface? Skull face. Yeah, Max Skull Face. Sorry, Hunt meets with Skull Face, played by Vanessa Redgrave, a shady underworld broker and agrees on a deal to
Starting point is 00:51:28 steal the knock list himself from the CIA in order to get contact with the mole. codename Job, like from the Bible. Job. You're a Bible person. Oh, big Bible people over here. Have you done an episode on The Bible? The Good Book?
Starting point is 00:51:43 Not yet. Saving that for a lucky number, 400. Yeah. When I hear Job, I think of Job Watson, the old Esson and Captain. I think of Arrested Development. Yeah, this makes sense. This makes sense. So, yeah, you are correct.
Starting point is 00:51:59 So I will mention that there is a cable. guy moment in almost every movie and this one of course has the CIA building where Ethan Hunt has to drop in via the ceiling to slide down Okay not Jim Carrey Cable Guy
Starting point is 00:52:18 So Brian DePalmer describes it as As setting a suspense hook and then like So once you use to set set the suspense hook then you can milk it for all it's worth So in this scene where they have to break into the CIA the computer is protected by heat sensors. You can't make sound. You can't touch the floor.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And then that means, all right, let's throw. What if a rat comes in? What if he starts to sweat? What if Jean-Renaud has to sneeze? What if the guy is coming back to the computer? What if Jean-Renaud's knife falls out of his pocket? So they find everything they can do to go, all right, what can go wrong to make this extra intense?
Starting point is 00:52:57 So the big chunk of the movie is sitting around with a whiteboard. and just troubleshooting. Probably. Yeah, we'll talk more about the set pieces as we go on. While filming the famous scene where Tom Cruise drops in the ceiling. Oh, wait, that was behind the scenes. Okay, I understand. When he was filming the scene, Cruz's head kept hitting the floor when he got moving down.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Like, I think just the weight distribution. So he got the idea apparently to put coins in his shoes for balance. I'm not quite sure how that works. He's got a small head, doesn't he? How many coins you'd have to put? No, he's got a big head. He's going to have a lot of coins. How many coins do you think were you rattling around in your shoes to...
Starting point is 00:53:37 What in the hell? Yeah. Coins in the shoes, that'll balance it out. Yeah, coins in the shoes. Great call, Tom. Why didn't any of us think of that? All right, let's get some coins for Mr. Cruz's shoes. Not like ankle weights or something?
Starting point is 00:53:49 No, no, no, no, coins. Coins in the shoes. I need two 50-cent pieces. That'll do it. That'll do it. And I'm balanced. I want to tell you, every, every, every, every, move, I'll tell you, one of the cool spy moves. And this one of my favorite ones is like when
Starting point is 00:54:04 Ethan Hunt is hiding out after running away from Kittridge, he finds an apartment. And when he's going in there, he takes a bulb off the light in the hallway leading up to the apartment, breaks the light bulb and then moves it along the hallway. So he'll be able to hear the crunch of anyone's feet would they approach. Because there were no corn flakes handy. Yeah, the corn flakes are much harder. And I think would be less cool if we saw a thing where he bought some corn flakes. No, I want to see him at the shop. And then he sees the
Starting point is 00:54:36 crunchy nut. Paul place and he's like, perfect. And then he sees some bubble wrap in the produce section. And then he lines up behind an old lady who's trying to get the exact change. He's just there, a bit bored. And then...
Starting point is 00:54:50 That's when he has his light bulb moment, which is him taking a light bulb. And also, we're just looking for that exact change. He goes, I'm going to use the end of my shoes. While I'm here, can I get a little change for a tent? The big finale of this movie is a showdown on a moving train. I think we all like moving train. Love that.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Love that. Love that when a tunnel is coming. Also, I love any movie where like all the key players are invited to the same place. You know, everyone that has a stake in the, in the movie is like, oh,
Starting point is 00:55:20 lured to the same location. So you've got skull face there. You've got Kittred there. They've all been lured there. And they all, you know, don't quite know what is going on. We also learn.
Starting point is 00:55:30 who the mole was, and the mole was Jim Phelps himself. He just pretended to die. This is why he didn't want the original director there. He's like, I'm going to make your hero the villain. You are 100% right. The original cast response that I'll tell you about, none of them were into it. I imagine I'm not.
Starting point is 00:55:51 None of them liked the movie because rumor had it as well that they initially were thinking about getting the original cast back to kill them off in Act 1, that they would be the team that gets killed off. It's sort of a cool idea. That was just a rumor. No one wanted to go to see the premiere. Only one actor accepted the invitation.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And he walked out halfway through, which is probably about when it's revealed who the mole is. And they would have gone, but he's the hero of the whole series. And you've just made him the bad guy, which is a cool move for people that aren't, I guess, in love with that. Yeah. It's a bit, yeah, it's like an even more full-on.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Ryan Johnson thing. What did he do with Star Wars? Oh yeah. Exactly. The fans up in arms. And like, I guess people with the Ghostbusters watching the Ghostbusters. They would never be women. What are they doing?
Starting point is 00:56:42 Women can't see ghosts. We all know that. They could only be ghosts. I remember at the time with all the backlash, Martin Dunlop did a little listical about the reasons why it won't work to gender swap. And one of the reasons was how they're going to, going to do the scene where Bill Murray takes his balls out and makes everyone look at his balls.
Starting point is 00:57:06 A great question. Great question. And then Melissa McCarthy got her balls out. She made it work. I've butchered Martin's bit there, but something like that. I'm sure it's incredibly funny. So this is actually similar to Goldenite that came out the year before that the villain turns out to be a former ally, jaded by the Cold War, jaded by his job, and who he had assumed had died in Act 1. So coincidence.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Claire and Krieger also revealed themselves to be working for Phelps. Claire is shot by Phelps before attempting to escape the moving train via a helicopter piloted by Krieger. Hunt manages to leap into the helicopter from the train and slap some exploiting chewing gum onto the helicopter's windscreen. He yells out red light, green light. That's good. Even though that no one around him would have been able to hear. Doesn't matter. It's very good. He goes, red light, and then slaps it down, green light.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And then, you know, you've got genre, no, looking at that, going, and you hope he knows also what exploding chewing gum looks like, because he wasn't there when that was explained in Act 1. But I guess he might just know, or he might be like, why is he putting gum on the, do you think, does he think that's going to obscure my vision or something? He's not being able to see it. He's a speck.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I can still see what's going on. Is he saying I got bad breath? Is this a son of him? Just brushed. I always brush before a mission. And then Jim Phelps also gets, he's holding on to the bottom of the helicopter at the time because he's trying to escape. And quite graphically shows him as the helicopter crashes, sort of grinding him into the ground. So that's also a moment that the original cast probably wouldn't have enjoyed.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Yeah, what a way to go. The hero. Real tribute to the old cast. A bit of trivia, Bing Rames was going to be killed off in Act 3 on the train. But this was changed on the script when Bing Rames asked David Kep, why does the black guy always got to die? And they went, yeah. I mean, everyone's dying, but.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Yeah, oh, interesting. Yeah, good, good point. That was a, geez, that question led to him getting, what, eight more films? Yes, he is in every one of them. So it doesn't hurt to just raise those questions. Great question. Yeah. You could be giving yourself a lot more work.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Exactly. Why miss out on work? I imagine they're like he keeps getting the jobs because he's very good and people love him. And it's actually, they might have realised it's actually nice to have some continuity between films. Yeah. Rather than killing everyone each part. The Marvel movies are bad for this.
Starting point is 00:59:42 They kill off the villains every time and then you're like, oh, well, now you can't bring them back in interesting ways. Like they're just dead. And you always having to reset, reset, reset, reset. Take them to Gotham prison. Yeah, exactly. And wait for him to escape. Let them break.
Starting point is 00:59:55 week out. Yeah. So let's jump into Mission Impossible 2, the year 2000. Where were you guys in the year 2000? I was awaiting a family trip to Sydney to view the Olympic Games. And I was at Olympic Station. I was at Olympic Stadium hanging from a wire singing a song as a 14-year-old girl. Wow, a twist.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Okay. You've lived a life. Beat that. No, back to mine. Well, you might have seen me there. I didn't see you there because I didn't get to go because I got chicken pox. Oh no. The week before the Olympics.
Starting point is 01:00:36 So my brother and my dad went and mom and I had to stay home. So I missed the Olympics. Did your mum have chicken pox too? Nah. Just me. Oh, that's a sad, that's a sad story. Sad story, but a good mom. Speaking of Sydney, guess where Mission Impossible 2 was mostly filmed?
Starting point is 01:00:54 Yeah, this is the bad one as well, right? This is the worst. I'll spend the least amount of time on this. So don't think that every one of them is going to be equally the same length. Was this, I'm trying to think which one had the Metallica song? Oh, that's a great question. I did write down. I think this might have been the Bono one.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Or maybe they might have done the first two, the edge. And one of the other members of you two did the first one. This might have been lead, limb biscuit, I think. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That feels very too bad. And that, yeah, because they, like Fred Durst sort of sang or wrapped over a version of the theme, right? Yeah, it's embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:01:34 This whole movie sucks. Well, it's fun. The same is the Aussie one. And it's also got, who was in Rake? Who stars in Rake? A bit of Richard Roxburgh. Richard Roxburgh is in it. Rake himself.
Starting point is 01:01:47 So I think this is a result of the Matrix era where every movie had to be cool now. like we wanted a cool movie. And I think I would have been 12-ish by this time, and I wanted every movie to be cool as well. I was thrilled to see Ethan Hunt with sunglasses on now. So it's like, what if Ethan Hunt was a mountain climber that did Kung Fu? What if his mission was sent to him in a little missile that had a pair of ray bands in them, the little microphone?
Starting point is 01:02:13 What if Ethan Hunt had a sort of wavy mullet thing now? That's, what if John Wu directed it? Look, I'm, I said this is the only bad. I was taking that back. This sounds amazing. Sounds incredible. It is a lot of fun. Like, it's very silly.
Starting point is 01:02:29 And I love a light film. There's slow-mo and there's pigeons. Apparently his first cut of the movie was three and a half hours. I always find that when, like, they release that sort of trivia, sort of strange. It's like, you've done a bad job if that was your first cut. Like, no movie should be that long. I assume it was mostly slow-mo. And pigeons.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Cruz's goal was to have each movie be sort of episodic so have a different style which sort of makes sense about having a different director this movie was written by Robert Town who was a writer in Chinatown and apparently a contributor to the first Mission Impossible movie the wiki synopsis
Starting point is 01:03:11 Ethan goes back in action and works with professional thief Naya Nordoff Hall which is played by I want to nail this Tandyway Newton, an Australian Billy Baird
Starting point is 01:03:26 who, oh, the duo go undercover to stop rogue IMF agent Sean Ambrose, probably the shittiest villain name, Ambrose. He's also Naya's former lover from stealing a deadly virus,
Starting point is 01:03:42 starting a pandemic, and selling the antidote to the highest bidder. Maybe this is why I didn't like watching this movie in lockdown. Yeah, the whole idea is like, if I can create a, a huge pandemic, but also have the cure
Starting point is 01:03:55 to the pandemic. Money, money, money. Then I've, I'm a genius. I mean, isn't that also the story of big farmer? Interesting. Isn't that also the story of big farmer and also Kingsman too? That's, I think that happened. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's not
Starting point is 01:04:11 necessarily pandemic. I like the Kingsman movies. I like them too. Freckin' Romp. They are Rump. And they're all, they're so silly, but they're fun. So, so. So, so. So, should we stop this and just go watch a Rump? Yeah, let's go watch a Romb. Let's just hang out. And the way they introduced Hitler at the end of the last one? Oh, that was weird.
Starting point is 01:04:26 It was so strange. But I laughed so big. I've not laughed that loud in public in a long time. I assumed they were having fun. Yeah, obviously having fun. Because that was so strange. Colin Firth just kicking the shit out of people. I'll watch that any day.
Starting point is 01:04:43 It was basically like, let's do a Marvel character reveal, but it's Hitler. Yeah, so funny. It was amazing. So the payday for Tom Cree. Cruz apparently was $75 million. You make good money if you're the producer. You're like, oh, what if the most of the money was spent on me? This is the only film in the series where Ethan Hunt doesn't go on the run and instead
Starting point is 01:05:08 just does a mission for the IMF. This is the only one where he's just doing a mission. He's not falsely accused sort of thing. Yeah, he's not falsely accused or having to go on the run or, yeah, shadow operative mode. How many times do you have to be falsely accused? accused of something, prove you didn't do it, until people are just like, I reckon maybe Ethan didn't do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:29 He's the boy who didn't cry a wolf. Yeah. He's working so hard for his peers to just, like, treat him as an equal. Yeah. Oh, my God. Sometimes he's on the run, because they think he is on the run. Sometimes he's, they're pretending he was a ghost operative or whatever. So sometimes it's deliberate.
Starting point is 01:05:46 You know, it's spy stuff. Yeah, spice stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As I said, this one has a lot of Australia in it, the outback, the opera. the Opera House, the Randwick Racecourse. It's very tacky. I find watching Australia on screen is often. It's not very filmic, I think.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Have you watched Lost? Yeah. Because there's a lot of flashbacks are in Sydney or in Australia, and the opera house is in the background of every scene. It doesn't feel like I'm watching a show. It takes me out of it. It just to make it nice and clear that this particular scene is happening in Australia, Oh, look at that.
Starting point is 01:06:23 You've got to put Uluru or City Harbor. It's so funny. It's got to be an outback. In this movie, they did that where they, it was like cut from Sydney Harbor and to the red dust of the outback. Yeah, like their hideout is in there. They're so far away for each other.
Starting point is 01:06:41 But it's the kind of thing that's not going to worry anyone else, I guess. But it just takes you out of it because you know it's a bit silly. But I mean, this is a super silly movie anyway. But like with loss, it didn't matter which. character it was, no matter where they were in every scene, they were always right by the opera house. You would have hated water rats. Because every crime was happening. They were big crimes that the water police wouldn't normally handle murders, but they would be happening under the Sydney Harbour Bridge or the steps of the Opera House.
Starting point is 01:07:12 It's good for tourism. And I love that bridge. Oh my God. I love that freaking bridge. But you can't see it from every house in Sydney. So it seems like Tom Cruise wanted to be closer to Nicole. This was during the Kidman era. This was also the highest grossing movie of 2000,
Starting point is 01:07:31 meaning Gladiator and Castaway. Wow. So the team in this one, Luther is back with new additions. Niahole, as I say, by Tandewa Newton and Australian Billy Bair, who I mentioned. The cable guy moment of this one, Tom Cruise jumps off a helicopter this time into a building. and finishes with that, I call it like a starfish move, you know. I think that's a good little bit of imagery. Yep.
Starting point is 01:07:58 As I say, this is a post-Matrix movie. It's made for 12-year-olds. He does kung fu. There's ludicrous kick flips off the ground. He is sort of a member of the A team or Charlie's Angels now all of a sudden. Like, he literally has moments where he's beating up tons of bad guys and can leap off the ground, full backflip kick, and that person's defeat. and it's bizarre like where did these skills
Starting point is 01:08:23 suddenly come from. He didn't smirk though I hope. There's no smirking at all. I hope there's no character development. There's very little character. I mean this is the love interest. Apparently him and Claire were going to have a love like a love thing in the first movie. They were going to make love on a train.
Starting point is 01:08:41 The most romantic place to make love. That's a great euphemism as well, right? Train going into a tunnels and that. That's an old school euphemism. Yeah. Indeed. Visual euphemism. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:08:51 And what about when the train comes out of the tunnel? Oh, well, and then in again, and then out again. It's a very confusing journey. Am I remembering it right that at one point he basically throws a motorbike at another motorbike or rides a motorbike or something? You have beautifully timed it. So in the final showdown, like him and the villain Ambrose, you know, which is a name that would send a shiver up anyone's spine. I mean, it's a, it's, it's. the name of a different way to score golf.
Starting point is 01:09:22 You know, it's like, you couldn't get anything more pedestrian than that, could you? So they both ride their bikes at each other. Before the bikes hit, they dive off their bikes. So they collide in the air. As they're colliding in the air, they then also sort of go against physics and fly off a cliff together into some sort of softer sand. So that, yeah, this is classic John Wu. heightened action.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Tom Cruise also said, like, he was very much inspired by Bruce Lee movies and wanted to do a bit of Bruce Lee action as well. I know the name, John Wu. What's his famous film? He's done the hard, I haven't seen a ton of John Wu, but he's done movies with Chow Young Fat, like the Hard Boiled series, which was a lot of, like, Chow Young doing, like,
Starting point is 01:10:11 dual-wielding guns and shooting them. So this is classic Wu. This is classic Wu action, yeah. Hard-boiled, I believe, is the series. If anyone's yelling at their iPod right now, I apologize if I get any of the actors wrong. I'd be underestimating our listenership. Underestimating.
Starting point is 01:10:36 So this movie also has so many masks. Like this movie does the masks to death. This is the highest amount of masks. So Ambrose wears an Ethan. Ethan Hunt mask, stamp, who's Richard Roxburgh wears an Ethan mask, and Ethan wears both a stamp mask and another guy's mask, Nekharovic mask. So, like, there's so much mask wearing and so many dramatic mask uses.
Starting point is 01:11:03 I have to talk about this part, okay, because it's so ridiculous. So there's this scene. Tom Cruise is fighting Richard Roxburgh, and we cut to the villains there. So we cut away from the fight. We know that they're fighting, like, down the hall from this room, where the villain Ambrose is. And then Richard Roxburgh comes in with Ethan Hunt and his mouth is taped up.
Starting point is 01:11:26 So you're like, oh, Ethan Hunt can't talk. And Richard Roxburgh has got him? You're like, how's Ethan Hunt going to get out of this one? And Ambrose starts kicking Ethan Hunt. He's like, yeah, I've got you now. Well done. Well done Richard Roxburgh. And then he shoots Ethan Hunt.
Starting point is 01:11:41 And you're like, whoa, Ethan Hunt's dead. Like, this is crazy. But then suddenly Ambrose is. like, wait a second, and he pulls back to realize that Richard, that Hunt is actually Richard Roxburgh under me. He just killed someone in cold blood. Yeah. Taped and bound.
Starting point is 01:11:59 So somehow off screen, this means that Tom Cruise, like Ethan, it was able to defeat Richard Roxburgh and then had two masks available, one of Richard Roxburgh's face and one of his own face. Which we find out in one of the movies take a long time to 3D print. Yeah. And was able to make that, I don't know where he puts these masks. He doesn't look like his heart has a big backpacker or anything like that. And like how quickly you're able to also swap clothes. What year was in 2000?
Starting point is 01:12:29 Probably cargo shorts. And also, yeah, swap clothes. And it also means anyone you've ever swapped faces with, you're just very lucky that they have similar frames and builds to you as well. Yeah, true. Some of the movies, they have an extra padding that they've put on. when they have a different frame, but most of the time it's just pure luck
Starting point is 01:12:49 that they're able to go, oh, we happen to be the exact same height, we're nailing it. Nobody's going to be all that suss. I'm starting to wonder if Jim Carrey was a big influence for these films. We've got the cable go, got the mask. Oh, this is true.
Starting point is 01:13:02 What else have we got here? That's an excellent point. Li-Lia. Yeah, they're all lie-Lyers. That's a good point. That's an excellent point. Yeah, very good. Truman Show is also a film.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Yeah. They're filming it like in the Truman Show. Just to highlight some of the stunts as well and how dumb Tom Cruise is, there's a scene where they wanted this shot where the villain has a knife going towards Tom Cruise's eye that Ethan Hunt stops at the last moment. And rather than using CGI or camera trickery, they instead, Tom Cruise was like, oh, let's put a cable attached to that knife. And then you can point it, you can stab it at me as hard as you.
Starting point is 01:13:46 want and the camera and the cable will just stop it from going into my eye so we can get this shot where it looks like this knife is only a few centimeters away from my eye because it actually was because one of his things John Wu is like hyper realism isn't it I think it's hyperviolent but yeah but it's all very believable stuff is what I mean it's real in terms of yes this is pretty gritty this is grounded um that spike I could believe that spike really did that A little bit of trivia, the villain Ambrose, played by Doug Ray Scott, was going to be... Doug Ray.
Starting point is 01:14:23 As in... It's his first name. Oh my God, that is a great name. You've taken Doug and already fantastic name. I've always wondered what Doug was short for. Doug Ray. He was going to be Wolverine, but lost the role because he was busy with this. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:14:40 He had an injury and filming went over time. That's a big sliding doors. moment. Doug Ray. Indeed, he could have been Wolverine, but instead he went on to a glittering career in films such as Taken 3 and Death Race, Column, so he also, he's had a big career. He's been in a lot of things. He's fine.
Starting point is 01:15:00 But he's not. I'd say he's probably, to me, if I could pick one of those careers, I'd take his. Over Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman. He can't, like, he's so recognisable and well known, right? This guy could, he could get around still. This is true. And just be making movies, doing what he loves.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Yeah. And if you said, I'll never going to be a superstar because I'm choosing not to be. Yeah, I don't want it. I don't want it. Not for me. If you're a Hollywood producer listening to this and you're like,
Starting point is 01:15:28 I think I might give Marcel a movie. Don't worry about it. Unless it's a bit part or a mask part. Wacky waiter, I'll do. Yeah. I'm happy to be wacky waiter. I would do like, average looking funny friend.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Oh, yeah. I could do that. Like, I'm the friend of an incredibly beautiful. That is easily the best role anyway, I reckon. It's always a best role. What about quirky concierge at a hotel? You? You.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Me? Yeah. Oh. Do you think you could do quirky? A female concierge. Oh, we'd call it lady concierge. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, I could do that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Concierge, yes. I'm wearing a blazer. I've got the shoulders for a blazer, so yes, absolutely. Yeah, okay, I could do that, yeah. I don't have that role. Oh, okay, cool. If it comes across my death. She'll take it.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Let me know. Let me know. I think, because I could see you as a, a concierge very much so. Thank you. So I think maybe like if I'm the quirky concierge, you could be my supervisor or something. Or a bellboy. Oh, you're in a little hat? Yeah, a little hat. You would look so cute and a little hat. You could have a little monkey sidekick. I haven't been to many hotels, but is that a normal thing? Monkey side boy. I guess it depends on the country and how quirky the filmmaker is.
Starting point is 01:16:38 At least a four star. What is this? Where's Anderson film? See, I'm just trying to work it back into my other podcast, primates, I suppose. I didn't realize I was doing that until it was too late. Oh, this is like a backdoor episode of primates. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah, welcome. Welcome to another episode.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Let's jump on. What's the name of this show? Jump on with it? Jump on with it. Just on with it. Please, Marcel, do jump on with it. Jump on it. Mission Impossible 3, the year 2006.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Oh, a bit of a gap. We've jumped. We've jumped. a little while. So 2006, that was my last year of high school, I believe. What were you guys doing in 2006? I was completing my 150th year of my arts degree and doing a bloody good job of it. Oh, well done. Congratulations. I was in year 10 and I was on the year 10 ski camp, which also coincided with my 16th birthday. So my parents let me go probably so they didn't have to give me a present and I hated skiing and a snowboarder hit me as he fell down and slid down the
Starting point is 01:17:53 mountain as I skied across he hit me we went flying my skis went flying and then I went and had a hot chocolate oh that sounds great yeah it was a hot chocolate was really lovely aprae is that aprae what is it apra skiing or something someone told to like I've never really been skiing before but there's some word that ski people use for drinking off the skiskees Are you allowed to say ski people if you're not a ski person? Oh, good point. Very good person. Very good point.
Starting point is 01:18:21 That's gracious. You know, edit point. Edna point here. 2006 was the first year I went overseas. Interesting. Oh, man. I love going overseas. I want to do it again.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Imagine going overseas. So wide a long gap, the studio is hoping for a summer to possible holiday season in 2002 release. So there was the idea that let's keep this going. but Cruz had other things on and he also didn't want people to get burned out by the franchise. And didn't it get bad reviews? But it made so much money, I guess. I think it went very well.
Starting point is 01:18:55 I mean, if they wanted to make another one, like it must have done pretty well. I didn't look quite about the critical reception, but I'm sure if you look up the Rotten Tomato score, it probably must be the lowest one. But like you said, it was still, it was the biggest grossing film. The second one was still the biggest of the year. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:09 It's done fine. And you know, in Hollywood, we go by saying, money talks, bullshit walks. Yeah, and also the movie Money Talks as well. Yeah, well, that's what that's referencing. If this movie isn't on par with Money Talks with Chris Tucker, then I don't want to hear about it. The release date was then moved to summer 2005
Starting point is 01:19:31 because of War of the World coming out. Oh, that movie I hated. Oh, you didn't like that movie? I remember it, yeah, I just remember being like, and I like Tom Cruise, but I don't, I don't. I don't know. Is it good? I haven't seen it since. I went to the cinemas and I remember just hating it the whole time.
Starting point is 01:19:49 I encourage a re-watch. I think a lot of people, it was left with a sour taste in their mouth because of the ending is a little bit too romanticised and idyllic. But like the rest of the movie, it's pure Spielberg. It's a thrill ride. Is it a romp?
Starting point is 01:20:05 I love rompy Spielberg. I don't know if I call it a romp because it's pretty dark. It's probably too dark to be a romp. I feel like a romp requires a little bit of lightness and not feeling like these characters could die at any moment. And that it doesn't really matter when they do. Yeah. People die in ROMPS, but you're not
Starting point is 01:20:21 mourning them. Yeah, like in the mummy when that scarab goes into that guy's head or whatever, you're not, you know, that's funny. A little bit cartoony. Yeah. He runs into a wall and you're like, yeah, well, I can't remember that guy's name. Who else we got? What else we're doing? I'm talking out loud in the cinema.
Starting point is 01:20:37 All right, next. Next. That's good. What else? Next. Do jump on it. This is a new era. I think it's interesting, like, because this movie, these movies have been made for such a long time. This is post-9-11 Mission Impossible. Oh, that's a good point. Everything changed when those two towers came down.
Starting point is 01:20:52 So, yeah, this would be very different. This is post-born. This is the same year as Casino Royale. Kanye is on the soundtrack. There was a lot of... Canier. I didn't realize he'd been around. Really?
Starting point is 01:21:04 Yeah. Early Kanye. He's been around for 15 plus years. He's got an illustrious career. Wow. And I hope I've got that title. that right. I mean, he could have been on the next one, but I'm pretty sure he was on this one.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Potential versions that were floated around in those six years. David Fincher wanted to do an R-rated version set in Africa around organ trafficking, which doesn't feel very mission impossible. Yeah, and if you're an R-rated, I'm like, oh, yeah, all right, what are we going to do? Tidts and Bids. Nude Mission Impossible? Oh, we're going to see guts and butts. Guts and bits any day.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Guts and butts. I've never heard that before. Well, I think it's never been said before. Guts and butts. I want that, like in the TV garden you're looking to see if anything lewd is on that night. Yeah, G&B, you're like, all right. There was a version also set around the idea
Starting point is 01:21:58 of private military in Africa. Kenneth Branagh was going to be the villain at one point. Great villain. Frank Darabont of the, you know, Shawshank Redemption wrote a version. There was also a prequel version that was thrown around with Emilio coming back. Oh.
Starting point is 01:22:15 I don't know why there'd be any interest of like, oh, no, like set before the first movie. But who cares? I thought that would be a strange move to be like, let's get Emilio back in here for some reason. Had Mighty Ducks three just really taken off? It really, maybe he was just like whispering in people's ears. What if we brought Amelia back? It was just him trying to get that in people's head. One version had
Starting point is 01:22:42 A Tax on iconic landmarks around the world And I think that one was like Oh wait a second Does this A tax not a tax Which is what I heard Very Very financially minded
Starting point is 01:22:54 Ethan we've got to stop these tax I heard tax also Thank you so much for clarifying J.J Abrams was brought on as the new director As a result of Tom Cruise enjoying the TV show Alias You guys fans
Starting point is 01:23:09 I didn't see a lot, but it feels like Alias was probably inspired a bit by mission possible. So this is effectively a bit of a reboot. This is a bit like what Fast and the Furious did after Tokyo drift. Let's do a bit of a reset. Let's get this back on track. Ethan has lost his neo-powers. There's no explanation. He doesn't like hit his head and go, oh, I forgot how to backflip.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Like it's just never mentioned. His main superpower, I think some people still see him as like a superhero of sorts. I'd say his superhero power is luck and tenacity. Like he's just like, I'm going to go for it. And it happens to work out. And he never dies. Yeah, whatever he does comes off in the end. He never dies, but also like, I mean, some of the later films, like, more injuring him.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Like, but it's really to that sort of John McLean sort of level of like, how is he surviving this thing? It's like, because usually it's like, oh, I just made it rather than like I got shot 17 times and I'm okay. So, wiki synopsis of this one, Ethan is engaged to Julia, Meade, played by Michelle Monaghan, who is unaware of his true job. He assembles a team to face the elusive arms and information broker Owen Davian. Davian. I think this one is the one that starts like at a house party? So we see a bit of his private life there.
Starting point is 01:24:25 And he's playing just average guy. So yeah, the old crew would have been hating that. They would have been hating. We don't want to see anything at your house. I don't want to see him passing the dip. Philip Seema Hoffman is the villain, R-I-P. Oh, great villain. Great villain.
Starting point is 01:24:42 He intends to sell a mysterious, dangerous object known as the rabbit's foot. Ooh. Does that sound dangerous enough? Rabbits are cute. Yeah, and that's a symbol of luck. You'd think that Ethan Hawke would love. I don't know why that's relevant here, but... So there was a choice to give Ethan more emotional stakes.
Starting point is 01:25:07 So this movie, before the house party scene, it opens with a flash forward of later in the movie. We see his wife is tied up, gun to her head. Philip Seymour Hoffman's character has the gun to her head and is giving Ethan a countdown. Tell me where the rabbit's foot is or she's going to die. And we hear a gunshot and then we cut to it early. You're probably wondering, how do we get here? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's slow to record scratch.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Love that move. earlier. So, yeah, he is one of the best villains on the series. And I liked the idea after how silly the second one was, like, opening a movie like that is like your wife is getting shot in the head. It's like, all right, this isn't your grandpa's mission impossible movie. All right, this is real. And it's sort of growing up with the kids who started watching it, I guess, in the 90s as well.
Starting point is 01:26:01 The new team, at one point, Ricky Javais was cast as the film as an ally to Ethan Hunt. he was going to be the man in the chair but then that movie went that role went to Simon Pegg I love Simon Pegg I love he's one of the best new characters in this series and he continues in the rest of it I would
Starting point is 01:26:20 hate to live in the universe where Ricky Javais got cast in this role I think that would be the worst shit yeah it wouldn't have been good I think he because in this movie Benji is just a small character he comes in like twice as just like the guy on the other end of the phone
Starting point is 01:26:35 Man of the van. Man of the van. But I don't think, I reckon Javis wouldn't have then been moved into the team. I don't know what have happened. He would have insisted on some weird things and they would have said, oh, actually. He's just roasting everyone on the team. He's like, can you not be mean to us? The big stunt is this fulcrum swing in Beijing.
Starting point is 01:27:00 He does this huge swing off one building to another. I know what a fulcrum swim is. But just in case any listeners don't, do you want to break it down for them? I wrote down Fulcrum because this is what they told me in the movie. But it's essentially a pendulum-type swing of like, let's go from one building and I can swing on to the next, which is further away. And like release the cable at the last minute and I'll be able to jump off to the next thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, spider-man style. Yeah, basically my understanding as well.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Yeah, and you have that written down to prove that you had that understanding as well. Yeah, yeah. I thought, yeah, the exact same wording. Yeah, right. So this is also the beginning of more of those layered action sequences. So he like breaks into this building, but then his escape route is parachuting out of that building. And then that falls into a car chase. And then, like, there's just that beautiful level of, but this happens.
Starting point is 01:27:49 And then this happens. And what if this happens? And it turns out later on that a lot of these movies continue to just, sorry, start with just the set pieces being worked out before the script is. So they know, oh, what if we had this sequence? What have we had that sequence? and then they fill in the story later. Yeah, number two, it started with the two motorbikes crashing into each other, and they worked out from there.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Okay, let's work our way backwards. How do we get to this point? So maybe we have a scene set in a motorcycle shop. He's buying a motorcycle. Yeah, oh, that's good. And the guy says, you should never run this into a different motorcycle, whatever you do. Yeah, yeah, Chekhov's morning. Check up's motorcycle.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Every time a motorcycle's introduced in a movie, you know it's going to explode. I've only recently learned what Chekhov's gun is, and now I am referencing it too much. Yeah, it's a great little literary reference there. I'm like, oh, here we go, Chekhov's book every day. That book's going to get read. Someone's going to read that book. If a book is introduced in Act 1, it's going to be read by Act 3. The Cable Guy Moment.
Starting point is 01:29:02 I guess there's two in this one. He climbs onto the wall. of the Vatican and then cables off. When he gets on top of the wall, he whispers to himself, Humpty Dumpty, sat on the wall. Oh, that's right. For no reason to nobody. Remember that being very funny as well.
Starting point is 01:29:15 That whole sequence was very funny. That sucks. It's a real cringy moment and like it's so out of character for him as well. It's in reference to nothing. I can see James Bond saying that, you know, but. Maybe early James Bond. I was joking about it. Who am I?
Starting point is 01:29:30 Upti-dubty? Sitting on a wall. I didn't realize how corny James Bond was until I watched the most recent one. And like the Daniel Craig's last one, I guess. I don't know if it is or not, whatever. But he's like just so many of the catchphrase. He was even saying like, shaken, not stirred and someone explodes. And there was a clock or something.
Starting point is 01:29:53 He's like, I guess it was time to explode. Oh, that's terrible. They were all like that, though. But it happens with the James Bond movies. Like, I think Casino Royale has his best one. and then by the time it comes where he's done like five of them, it's like we need to then pull it back again. They get too, I don't know, cocky or something.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Yeah. This movie explains the voice of the mask tech for the first time, which is fun. Like we see a mask be molded. We see the voice sample being coded. So there's this cool scene where, like, Tom Cruise has the mask of Davian, of Philip Seymour Hoffman's character, and has him pinned down in this bathroom
Starting point is 01:30:31 where, like, his henchmen are outside. and he needs Davian to read this sort of series of phrases in order to encode his voice properly. So it adds more attention to the idea of even stealing someone's voice and identity rather than being able to do it is off camera with no explanation. Like now, what if we made that a challenge to do? Oh, that's cool. Which is a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Yeah, that's interesting. And how did he get Philip Seymour Hoffman to say the phrase? He just has a gun to his head. Right. And he's just, I think David, he's just sort of doing it because I don't think he's like thinking too many steps ahead of like, oh, he's going to steal my voice and therefore be able to, I don't know. Yeah, it'd be a weird thing for somebody to hold a gun to your head and be like, read this. I'd be very confused. Happy birthday to you, Jess.
Starting point is 01:31:20 You are one of my closest friends. If I was Ethan Hawke, I would have used reverse psychology. Bet you can't read this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you got to say this three times fast. I can. I bet you can't. I mean, I've been saying it heaps of times when you went around, but anyway.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Yeah, go on, you try. My mate said that your mates didn't like him. As usual, Tom Cruise did the vast majority of his own stunts. Most of them were done without major injury. However, he cracked a couple of ribs once he turned his upper torso too quickly. Does that ever happen to you? Yeah, at work, yeah, all the time. When someone wants your attention and you just swing yourself around immediately.
Starting point is 01:32:01 That's got to be really fast. I don't think I can move fast enough to break my own ribs. Try it. Nah. I mean, it hurt. You move very quickly, though, I've got to say. Was it that he moved too fast or that he moved too early and something hit the ribs? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:32:18 That makes more sense. Yeah, well, as with a lot of things on the internet, they don't always give you much information. I'm going to get something hit the ribs. Do your own research. You're listening to a podcast. Yeah, my bad. I want to tell you about his new. spy power in this movie, like each movie
Starting point is 01:32:33 he sort of gets a new spy power. In this one, he can read lips now. Oh, that's cool. Maybe maybe this is what happens. He loses one, gains one. Oh, interesting. He lost kung fu, but he gained lip reading. Yeah, like some video games, if you want to upgrade
Starting point is 01:32:49 a power, like you have to like take a point out of a different power. He's only got a certain amount of room in his brain. Yeah. So he reveals this power in a creepy way of eavesdropping on a conversation on his wife and her friends at their engagement party. Like he's over on one side, like helping with a drink and they're having a conversation across the party in the kitchen
Starting point is 01:33:06 and they can't remember the name of this lake and he calls out, oh, Lake Winaka and then his friends are like, how did he possibly hear that? It's not how lip reading works either. How does it work? Like you read their lips. You can't, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:23 You do that with so much confidence. Well, it's not like, you can't read lips from across a party. That is bullshit. What about in that sign? find foot episode where the they recruit I want to sweep with you yeah
Starting point is 01:33:34 I'd asleep that would have ruined the whole premise of the bit she correctly saw that he was saying I want to sweep with you they were saying sweep but they thought it was sleep with
Starting point is 01:33:49 it's a fun little fun little moment different shape with the mouth before I move on to the next film I should tell you as well there's this fun little thing about the publicity
Starting point is 01:33:58 of this particular film Paramount rigged 4,500 randomly selected Los Angeles Times vending boxes with digital audio players that would play the theme song when the door was opened. The audio players did not always stay concealed,
Starting point is 01:34:13 however, and in many cases came loose and fell on the stack of newspapers in plain view. With the result, that they were widely mistaken for bombs. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:34:24 Police bomb squads detonated a number of the vending boxes and even temporarily shut down a veteran's hospital and response to the apparent threat. Oh no. Despite these problems, Paramount in the Los Angeles Times
Starting point is 01:34:36 opted to leave the audio players in the boxes until two days after the movie's opening. Well, this is in the 2000s, right? Post-9-11, well, people stop being so stressed about the threat of attacks or bombs or whatever. I like the idea of just sort of blue-tacking these boxes
Starting point is 01:34:53 in and being like, oh, that's fine. Yeah. A little bit of sticky tape. As long as you can't see them. Yeah, it's fine. They're hidden, but not too hidden. Yeah. This would be the last film that Tom Cruise and Paula Wagner collaborated on.
Starting point is 01:35:09 This was around the time. Apparently Redstone was disgusted by Cruz's recent antics, particularly his appearance on the Oprah Winfrey show. Oh my God. Following that, Cruz and his partner Wagner resurrected the United Artists Company, which had been closed a few years previously. But then, of course, Cruz goes on to produce the rest of the film. So this was in that sort of era when people were a little bit cringy on cruise.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Yeah. Cringy on cruise. Yeah, I think everyone's sort of gone, it's all. He's a bit different, but we love him anyway. I think, yeah, there was, yeah, I think there was sort of two schools of like this guy's a bit wacky now or a bit silly. And then they're like, oh, but hold on, what's, is he love sick or is he just sick? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:48 What is it? Yeah. But then, I think, wasn't it like when he was in, was the Tropic Thunder and he was like, oh, look at him. He can have. fun. He's funny now. I think he's someone as well, this is for the Tom Cruise episode,
Starting point is 01:36:02 that like his public persona after that had to be like more manicured and curated. Of like, hey, someone would have talked to, I mean, he would have had a whole team talk to him and say, this is how you're being perceived. If you want to keep making movies, let's sort of change how you're publicly presenting yourself, I think. And let Katie Holmes out of the dungeon. No comment.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Allegedly. Jess alleged that before. Off mic. That's not something I thought. Jess looks stunned. I was like, did I say that? I'm sorry, that was one of your secret memories. You know how it feels when Marcel reveals your secret memories.
Starting point is 01:36:43 I know. I'm sorry. Yeah, we should all apologise. I'm sorry. Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol. Oh, yes. 2011. We're in a post-Avengers world and it feels like it. So this is the same year that Fast Five came out. And it sort of makes me wonder if both production companies sort of peeking in each other's test screenings. They're well and truly romps now.
Starting point is 01:37:08 So JJ Abrams went darker with number three. It felt more like an alias episode. But now new director, Brad Bird comes in, who you know from The Incredibles and Ratatouille and various Pixar projects and does a bit of live action. So JJ was too busy with his movie Super 8 to direct this one. So they bring in Brad Bird, who just crushes it. A little bit of trivia. Tom Cruise, sorry, Ethan Hunt in character, says light the fuse before the opening credit.
Starting point is 01:37:42 So then the fuse that actually is lit through the opening credit sequence is actually a fuse, which is a little bit of fun, the iconic fuse bit. And once again, we get that sort of, I find this very strange with them. the Mission Impossible movies, but I sort of like the novelty of it. We see in the opening sequence shots from the rest of the movie, like it is a TV series. So you are seeing, oh, that's bits of the movie that are coming up later. But it also makes you go, I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I'm thrilled. I can't wait to see that bit. That's going to be cool. Spoilers. Yeah, I think they're edited in just a way that you make you go, I can't wait for that bit rather than why they're showing me the rest of the movie already. Is this the one where he has to like climb up a wall
Starting point is 01:38:31 and a sandstorm? You are totally right. I can't believe I'm remembering. I really thought they were all blurred together. But if you didn't go one by one, then I probably wouldn't remember them. I should have just done them simultaneously. You're right.
Starting point is 01:38:42 I had that idea of just saying. You should have done it like I watched them. Mushed together. Maybe in the editing can you just have me just talking over myself the entire time? Yeah, I think that would be nice. Yeah. Rather me talking over you,
Starting point is 01:38:53 which is what's actually happening. So this was written by former alias writers, Josh Applebaum and Andre Nemec. And Christopher Macquarie, who's a regular cruise collaborator, his director of Jack Reacher and writer of Edge of Tomorrow, came in for rewrites. He does his total script doctor style. I listen to interviews with him and he's one of those guys who can come in and go, this doesn't work, this doesn't work, what about this? Let's change that character's backstory to make it work with the rest of the movie.
Starting point is 01:39:22 and in a movie where people are signing on without even seeing a script and there's just set pieces being laid out before there's a story you need someone that sort of knows narrative to come in and be like all right I can make this work Is there a script doctor on the plane? This guy has act three problems All right so the synopsis of this one
Starting point is 01:39:47 Ethan and the entire IMF a blame for the bombing of the Kremlin while investigating an individual known only as cobalt. See, cobalt's better than Max. Cobalt's good. And it's better than Ambrose as well. Much better. He and three other agents are left to stop him from starting a global nuclear war. So a pretty big deal.
Starting point is 01:40:10 So this guy, Cobalt, his name is Kurt Hendrix. That's his actual character name. He's played by Michael. Oh, shit, I'd never learn how to say this name. NYQ V-I-S-T You want to have a go at this? Oh, NYQ-FIST
Starting point is 01:40:26 Nick Vist Maybe Is it a hard, is the Q a hard K sound? Maybe So, how else could a Q be said? Qua. Qua. Or silently.
Starting point is 01:40:36 That's true. It could be skipped over altogether. Nyquist, Nyvest, maybe. He's the guy who's, he's the hero, one of the characters in the Girl the Dragon tattoo series. Ah.
Starting point is 01:40:47 So this follows that sort of James Bond tradition where like someone who's in a good European movie gets plucked out and can play a villain in an upcoming action film which is always good fun. So he wants nuclear weapons to sort of reset the world. I feel like a lot of the Mission Impossible villains pretty much from this movie on have like a let's blow up the world and we'll reset it and that will be sort of a piece in our time
Starting point is 01:41:10 sort of motivation. That's pretty much the blanket idea that like the world's bad and I'm going to be the one to blow it up. Yeah. And we need. We need to have a big explosion in order to reset the world. Now, it's been a well since I heard of the series. Is that what happens in the Noah's Ark story?
Starting point is 01:41:25 God goes, let's blow it up. Nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons. God steals a nuclear codes and gives them to Noah. Yeah. Yeah. And he has put a team together. That's two of every animal.
Starting point is 01:41:36 His crime fighting team. I just did have a great screenplay idea. Copyright. Yeah, no, that's saved it. I think that's legally binding. Yeah. Before anyone else, if anyone else is out there doing Noah's Ark Mission Impossible movie, I've got you. Time stamped.
Starting point is 01:41:57 So the idea here is make this more of a team movie. So you've got Simon Pegg on the away missions now. He's doing a bit of comic relief and also a bit of tension because he's sort of like playing the role of like, you know, still figuring it out. He just got his agent license or something. He just got his agent license. So he's not an idiot though. He's not just like, oh, I'm dropping stuff. the time, but, like, he's still imperfect
Starting point is 01:42:20 and he wants to make Ethan proud. You know, he's sort of the apprentice role. Because, yeah, it's revealed that Ethan's his dad, isn't it? What a twist? What's the age difference? Jeremy Renner is brought in. He plays a character called analyst, Brandt.
Starting point is 01:42:37 So, Brandt is a, was maybe considered to be maybe a future hunt, like, pass the torch to him in future movies. I don't think there's a, I don't think he's young enough to their, like, have many more movies in him. Didn't they? They tried that with Rana
Starting point is 01:42:52 on the Bourne movies as well. Yeah, that's a good point. I guess Renner was just like, hey, this guy looks like you're going to hold a torch, I suppose. Pass him the torch. It turns out he can't. He cannot. That born movie was no good. Other actors considered
Starting point is 01:43:08 with Tom Hardy and Anthony Mackey. Anthony Mackey also an Avenger. Who's Anthony Mackey? He is Falcon. Falcon. Oh, yeah. He's Also, Captain America now, I should say. He's in endgame when caps
Starting point is 01:43:25 They're all by himself And then he hears Sam And the Sam's on your left Oh, it's a beautiful moment I didn't know you're a big Avengers person Sometimes I watch that scene on YouTube Just to have a cry Yeah, it's a beautiful moment
Starting point is 01:43:38 I was swept up in the cinema I was swept up Loved it I was like, this is a thrill Oh, love the Avengers Am I thinking of the right guy is also in that Seth Rogen Christmas movie? Yeah. Yeah, that's easy.
Starting point is 01:43:53 I like that guy. He's great. What's that called? The Night Before or something. Yeah. Started that as one of my many Christmas traditions. Really? Is it worth it?
Starting point is 01:44:02 I like it, but you know, I'm very sentimental around Christmas. He loves Christmas. Do you like It's a wonderful life? I've never seen it. Oh, it's a delight. Worth a look? Oh, my money is in Bill's house and pride house. Uncle Jimmy.
Starting point is 01:44:16 What are you doing with my money in your house, Fred? Yeah, it's good stuff. Paula Patton is brought in. She's Agent Jane Carter. She also has demons like Agent Brandt does as a fellow Agent Hannaway, Sawyer from Lost. Oh, Sawyer. Agent Carter, you said. You were saying they were ripping off Marvel a bit.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Yeah, she is Agent Carter. That is 100% correct. I feel like Carter is one of the most overused last names in movie shows. as well. We, like rush hour. Yeah. He's a Cato as well. Luther is back, but he is only a cameo at the end of the movie.
Starting point is 01:44:56 He just sort of rocks up to be like, what just happened? Oh, yeah. Just to make sure he keeps his run. Yeah, just to be there. I don't, I don't know the explanation for why. I think maybe just creatively they were like, oh, if Luther's here, that's going to then, like, it's not going to be as tricky for them to figure things out or whatever. I think that they, this one, Brad Bird wanted to go.
Starting point is 01:45:16 I want to do a Mission Impossible movie where all the gadgets and stuff mess up. So not everything's going to go to plan, like pretty much the whole time, to always have that challenge. So, yeah, Jeremy Renner signed down without seeing a script. There's less masks in this one, which is delightful to see. So there's more performances. Once again, Tom Cruise just happens to look like the Russian general that he's impersonating to get into the Kremlin. So he just puts on a false nose. like a false chin sort of thing
Starting point is 01:45:48 and Benji who's accompanying him has no disguise at all for some reason. He just has the uniform That's all you need. And Benji says, I wish we had masks and Hunt offers no explanations for why they're not wearing masks. It feels like maybe there was an explanation but they decided to just
Starting point is 01:46:06 oh we're not going to mention why we're not wearing these masks that are always perfect and always convince everyone. I'm just going to wear this false nose because that's, I've I've just looked up why Luther wasn't in Ghost Protocol. I thought you were just checking your Instagram. I am a rude asshole, for sure, but I was also doing that. Says in an interview with MovieWeb, Rames implied that due to budget cuts, he had a smaller role in the film.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Really? I may be doing something very small in Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol, but I will just say that the budget changed dramatically, and I'll leave it at that. Interesting. Is that all, I think he's saying he got cut out? Is that implying that then after he got cut down, the budget seemed to get bigger again? Or is that just him saying they gave him a huge pay cut? There is a lot that, like, signs that they were pretty conservative with this movie. Because, like, even though the film series really takes off from here in terms of, like, the DNA of what makes a mission impossible movie, the third movie, I think, did okay.
Starting point is 01:47:11 But they were still, like, we want this to be a sure thing. They weren't throwing a ton of movie out of it. I suspect then they were like, here's how much we can pay you being Rames. And he went, well, that's good enough for me. The end credit scene. Yeah, I can do one scene for that money. New spy power from Ethan Hunt.
Starting point is 01:47:28 He is now an excellent drawerer. So in a scene where he's in the backseat of a car with Jeremy Renner and the new director of IMF, he's seen the villain. He's seen Cobalt when he was at the Kremlin. So as his drawing on his hand with just a big pen, he sort of says, oh, this guy's got brown hair and, you know, this color eyes, and then just holds up his hand to Jeremy Renner's character.
Starting point is 01:47:57 And Jeremy Renner goes, it's a crude drawing, but that might be Kurt Hendrix. So Ethan Hunt has the ability to just quickly, and it's like immediately just quickly sketched it in a matter of seconds. And Renner's got the ability to see a photo in a crude picture. Yeah, and he knows all the Hendricks is out there. He knows all the potential villains. Jimmy. Oh, this goes on. But I love as well that he also sort of necks him a little bit.
Starting point is 01:48:23 He goes, crew drawing. Yeah, yeah. Could have been better for it's on paper. Crew drawing, but I know exactly who that is. I like the fact as well that he's got one pen and he's just like drawing it out and then he turns it around and it's in color. All these different guys. He's got the brown hair and green eyes. Yeah, and just watercolors as well.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Yeah, it's beautiful. This is a fun little Easter egg. So we all know that the message will self-destruct in five seconds thing. In this time, the director is giving him the mission in the back of the card and says, hey, we're going to have to initiate ghost protocol because they think that you destroyed the Kremlin, so we can't really tell, you know, put you on this mission. But if you were to beat me up and run away, then you could sort of do this mission as a ghost. but at that time
Starting point is 01:49:11 suddenly the director gets shot and the car gets run into and thus the message truly did self-destruct in five seconds from receiving the mission so he himself sort of destructive which is a bit of fun
Starting point is 01:49:26 is the shadow in this one Alec Baldwin Alec Baldwin's in the next one the next one right and he's not playing the shadow but not the same universe I wish it was
Starting point is 01:49:38 I think the shadow would be amazing to pop up in anything. But that's just me. So this is a real roller coaster movie. The action sequence just sort of keep coming and coming. So this is the one where he climbs the bird's califa. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Wiz Khalifa. Oh, sorry, the Wiz Khalifa.
Starting point is 01:49:58 He climbs that musician, I want to say. I'm hip. I'm with it. It's a very topical reference too. And like this scene is amazing. Like this this encapsulates later Mission Impossible movies where you've got a million things going on, a million things going wrong. The idea being, oh shit, you're going to have to climb outside of the building. We didn't plan for that.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Meanwhile, the assassin is meeting the broker on this floor, but we're going to pretend to be meeting them on the floor underneath. So we're going to be listening into that one. Oh, great scene. Jeremy Renner is going to wear a contact lens that can focus. photograph these nuclear codes, but also send those nuclear codes to a printer inside this briefcase that's going to print out the nuclear codes upstairs to the other meeting going on. And we're hoping that they don't, haven't met this person before because there's no mask right in this one. Yeah, there's no, the mask thing.
Starting point is 01:50:59 The mask machine breaks at the last minute. So everything's going wrong. And then there's a dust storm on the horizon. Then there's a chase sequence. after that, it's all amazingly orchestrated. Is there a red light grain light callback with the suction cups thing? Is that referencing itself? I believe it's blue is blue and red is dead.
Starting point is 01:51:20 So as he's climbing up the building with these gloves, these magic gloves, yeah, blue is glue. Red is dead. And of course, one of the gloves fails and he has to start doing it with one hand. Red is dead? Is that a callback to Pulp Fiction? Oh, that's red. Z's dead.
Starting point is 01:51:38 That was only for the people really paying attention. You know, like, some IMDB trivia is just so shit. You're like, that's not a thing. Well, they'd go, Ving Rames was also in the Pulp Fiction movie series where someone said Z's dead, and this one movie, they say Red's dead. And five found that interesting.
Starting point is 01:51:56 Out of 72. How do I delete this information from the internet? Now I can't lip read anymore. I've got too many bullshit facts in my head. And, of course, like, beautiful ticking clock. stuff going on. The cable guy moment is Tom Cruise now running down the building.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Renner is the one that does the starfish or the jump and hang in this one. He does it while wearing like a magnet type suit later in the movie. The passing of the torch. Passing of the torch. Like, oh well if he can starfish then anyone can starfish.
Starting point is 01:52:30 Is that the idea? Yeah. You can sense me up in the pace as I'm like, all right, this is what you ought to do as we get closer to the end of a Mission Impossible series. There's still multiple films left. A little fun continuity, Easter egg. Ethan goes to meet another arms dealer, but given the same hood on his head, so he doesn't
Starting point is 01:52:53 know where he's going as he does in the first movie when he meets Max the arms dealer. Like physically the same hood? It's the same hood. It's the distinct, you know, has distinct patches and stuff on it. Maybe all the arms dealers have like a hood guy that they get their hoods from. He's a secondhand one. We found this hood. The offer went out to Vanessa Redgrave to reprise her role of Skullface slash Max.
Starting point is 01:53:19 According to the costume designer Michael Kaplan, he never designed any costumes for her because she said no immediately. Right. Yeah, which is pretty clear language, I think. I think that's nice and clear actually, yeah. At the end, there's a big showdown in this parking garage in India, which is amazing and everything's like every movie, everything's come down to the last second.
Starting point is 01:53:43 Is that the parking garage where like it's mechanical and stuff? It's mechanical. All the cars are being moved around. Cruise has to stop this nuclear weapon. So like he gets into a car and drives off the ramp and goes and just and just goes down and hits the ground. Luckily airbags are incredible and he's able to survive. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Wow. He's very lucky. There's also a plight. a plot line throughout here that Jeremy Renner's character was on protection for his Ethan Hunt's wife and he's resting with this demon, wrestling with this demon that
Starting point is 01:54:20 Ethan Hunt's wife is dead on his watch. But then at the end of the movie we learned that that was all a trick to disappear Ethan Hunt's wife and make sure she was protected and so he could get into this Russian prison as well. So it's probably more complicated than it is. Also as a result, learning of that it was Chris McCorry that came in and like rewrote his character. So it is a little bit convoluted. It's like, oh, actually his wife's alive and everything's fine. Because he all, additionally, they were going to be like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:54:52 Ethan Hunt's wife's dead. And Christopher McCrory went like, why is he like still interested in like doing anything? Like he doesn't have his emotional heartbeat anymore. Like, oh, yeah, Ethan Hunt's wife's dead. That's it. Off screen, you know, nothing, you know, the wife that he fought for a Mission Impossible 3 is just dead now. So I needed a screenwriter to come in and be like, but what if she was still alive? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Oh, is that an option? And at the end, we see Michelle Monaghan in a brief sequence, in the Luther sequence, and we can see Ethan Hunt sort of watching her in a distance, sort of keeping a protective eye. Reading her lips. Or trying to, but failing. She lost that ability. She's actually got her back to him, but he's still reading her lips. he's that good
Starting point is 01:55:38 I still want to meet I still want to beat Michelle Brazier's time so let's crack on Mission Impossible Rogue Nation okay the synopsis of this one Hunt is tracking down
Starting point is 01:55:50 the syndicate who gets mentioned at the end of this movie like he gets his mission at the end of Ghost Protocol saying introducing this idea of this rogue organization called the syndicate
Starting point is 01:56:00 meanwhile IMF is being shut down by the CIA okay so the CIA agent, Alec Baldwin, is here. The Shadow. The Shadow himself. And he wants to retire the IMF. This is sort of like a bit of a Captain America's Civil War situation
Starting point is 01:56:17 when they're beginning to recognize like, you guys are pretty wild with your methods. This is pretty silly. And one of the people on this panel that Brandt is having to stand in front of, they say, your unorthodox methods are indistinguishable from chance, which is a nice little summary of everything that they do in the movies. And I like the self-awareness of it as well
Starting point is 01:56:38 that people watching it who are a little bit more You know, there's people that watch movies and go, as if that would happen. You're like, have a little bit of fun. Yeah, lighten up. Lighten up. Cruz is getting older in this one. He's only five years younger than John Voight was
Starting point is 01:56:53 in the first Mission Impossible film. So this is, oh, I didn't write down the year for this one. Can you look up what the year was for Rogue Nation? Rogue Nation, yes, I'm on it. Because we got to know where you were. So in this one, Benji is back. 2015. Where were you in 2015?
Starting point is 01:57:12 Had you gotten over those chicken bucks? Just. I did Comedy Zone. You did Roar. That's true, yes. What a year. Yeah. What a year for comedy.
Starting point is 01:57:21 Thank you for remembering that because I was like, 2015. What was I doing? That's when I started comedy. You're absolutely right. Yeah, right. And everyone knows that. Everyone knows that. Have we been asking you where are you?
Starting point is 01:57:34 were, we're just like, we'll answer this. Thanks. I don't really give a fuck a bit. You know, when people ask a question because they want to answer it, Marcel's been patiently waiting for that. He's had a really good joke written down for each one, and we haven't asked. Where were you in 2015? I've got like a page worth of stuff.
Starting point is 01:57:49 I don't really know. I think I'd moved to Sydney. Oh, I got married. Yeah, that's one you should know. I mean, that was one day in that year. Yeah. Is that 2015? Yeah, I believe.
Starting point is 01:58:00 It's like 300 plus other days that year. I had met you before you got married. So there you go. Pre and post. Yeah. And look, let me say, what an improvement. Maybe that year I did it. I don't know if was your room or if you were just hosting a room above a record store in Sydney.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Oh, yeah. I would have been hosting that. The record crate. And you had used this gimmick where you were playing open mic bingo. Oh, yeah. Did you use that many times? I used it a couple of times. Like hosting open mic sucks.
Starting point is 01:58:35 So having a little bit of fun with going like, I'm going to have a little bit of fun with the comedians who are on tonight. And like, we'll tick the box when it says dick joke. We'll tick the joke like box when someone says, so I'm single. And I can have something to do across the show. And we can have that moment when someone goes, bingo. I'm glad you remembered that. So, yeah, they say Benji is back.
Starting point is 01:58:58 Hunt has to pull him out of his new desk job. So like Benji gets sent away to the CIA. the IMF is dissolved. What are they going to do? What are they going to do? Ethan is once again having to sort of work in the dark, in the shadows. And this sort of becomes sort of a buddy movie between Ethan and Benji. And Benji is becoming more and more capable.
Starting point is 01:59:22 Meanwhile, Brandt and Luther are in buddy mode trying to track them down before Alec Baldwin and the CIA do. So you've got a lot of people being pursued in this movie. because also the CIA I run shoot to kill orders This idea is like Maybe Ethan Hunt Is not a cool guy We've got to take him out
Starting point is 01:59:41 That's a pretty full on order You've got to really be sure To give the CIA agents A license to kill so to speak That is big That is big They don't give that to everyone It's a good point
Starting point is 01:59:52 The new cast member Rebecca Ferguson as Ilsa Sorry they I forgot this isn't America They do give that Right to everyone Everyone has a right AICAB. Do we say A-Cab on this podcast?
Starting point is 02:00:04 Is this an A-Cab podcast? Comedians. Comedians are beautiful. Oh, that's nice. Rebecca Ferguson has joined the cast as Ilsa Faust. Rebecca Ferguson. Why does that ring a bell? Her biggest films, other Mission Impossible films,
Starting point is 02:00:21 she's been in a few other things. She's originally, I think, from Sveedon, I believe. And she married Prince Andrew. Yes, yes, yes. Or one of the princes. Did she? Oh, she's in bloody, she's in the greatest showman. I didn't see it.
Starting point is 02:00:37 Look, it's fine. Did she play the bearded lady? She didn't play the bearded lady. She played an incredible singer that so many people came to see. It's not her singing at all. Spoiler. Do you want to hum a few bars from the song? Never enough.
Starting point is 02:00:53 It was a big, like, you know, she hit some high notes and people went, wow. Really want to double check if you know what hum means, Jess. Thank you. So she is from British intelligence and she's undercover with the syndicate where there's this sort of anti-IMF, the bad IMF. The chaos to their control.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Yes, indeed. Yes, so if we're talking about Get Smart rules. Is that what we're talking about? Well, that's what I see the whole world through that lens. Also an iconic theme. So good. I wonder if they thought with the Steve Carell Get Smart movie,
Starting point is 02:01:27 they were going to start their own franchise of films. They should have got Jeremy Renner. Yes. If you want to pass a torch, you've got to get Renner. So she's in double agent mode. If you detected, her last name's Faust. Are you familiar with the Faustian legend?
Starting point is 02:01:47 Deal with the devil? They just went like, let's just literally call her Faust. It's very on the nose. And they shook hands and said, that's a pact. And then they handed her a gun and said, it's Chekhov. A lot of those characters that we've met in previous films, like Paula Patton and Maggie Q,
Starting point is 02:02:10 are just not talked about again. And it just turns out that it's, Christopher Macquarie said an interview that it was just logistics all the time. They're like, do you want to do this next one? No, you're not available. Okay, we'll figure it out then. Yeah. So what else can I tell you?
Starting point is 02:02:27 That was humming. That was how long. Oh, you've nailed it. So let me tell you about the syndicate. You can lip-read people humming. Oh, that person over there's humming. Across the room, we can't hear it, but I can see it. They're humming.
Starting point is 02:02:39 So the syndicate are the new baddies, and I'll tell you about them because they come up. They're going to re-occurring baddies now. So they're here, and they mean they're a shadow terror organization. They're made up of ex-spies and agents from around the world, presumed dead. We later learned they're created by someone from British intelligence, and then they went rogue. So this guy in British intelligence is like, oh, what if we experimented with this idea
Starting point is 02:03:03 that we could create our own shadow operation that no one knows about? But then this rogue operation goes rogue themselves. Whoopsie, Daisy. Did you say shadow operation? I know a guy who'd be really good for this. Is it what's the fun? This one's called rogue something as well.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Rogue Nation. Rogue Nation. In the original TV series, the syndicate were actually like American mafia. they were organised crime. This was a result of like, because in the TV series, IMF are going to all these countries
Starting point is 02:03:32 and messing with stuff and like, oh, we're American and we'll save the day. We'll sort this out. And then in light of the Vietnam War at the time, audiences started going like, oh, is this? Are you really saving the day? Yeah, is this cool that you're going in
Starting point is 02:03:45 and messing around with these different countries? So they changed it. Whoa, we're creating a quagmire. Whoa. People don't like a quagmire anymore? We reinserted our own president. It's had a big deal. So they started doing like American organized crime to be like, hey, this is cool though, right?
Starting point is 02:04:03 This is not questionable. The villain in this movie is Solomon Lane, played by Sean Harris. He's in a lot of, he was in a lot of British stuff, but like not really a face. I knew him as like the creepy drug dealer from the Michael Kane movie Harry Brown. Oh, no. Oh, no. It's a small movie, but. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:25 Yeah, that's who I was. I think I know him from this movie. Yeah, right. I'm looking. I don't recognize him. Oh, that's right. I've seen this. So he's an ex-government agent now using terrorism to create change for himself.
Starting point is 02:04:38 Like he's no longer, you know, following orders. He's no longer under someone else's control. This is the first film in the franchise where Ethan Hunt and the primary, the primary antagonist, the villain, share no physical contact whatsoever. Oh, no shaking hands, no smooches. He's really good. He's a great. great villain. He was also in, he played Ian Curtis in 24-hour party people. Oh, I never saw that.
Starting point is 02:05:03 Well, do yourself a favour. Do yourself a flavour. Who said that? Craig David, I think. What's your flavour? Do yourself a flavour. The big heist in this one. We're losing it. Yeah, this is an epic. We're in an epic. I love the roller coaster of an epic where you lose and find your mind. And of course I'm in the mode of like, don't ever stay your welcome myself, but do do a decent enough job where you're still delivering. But also be aware that, oh my goodness. No, I do. You're doing great. Genuinely, don't feel like you have to rush.
Starting point is 02:05:41 And the listeners have said many times, they love the long ones. I love the long ones too. I just don't, I'll listen to a more bit different. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the beauty of it, right? Occasionally people complain about lengths, like too long. It's like forgetting that they can pause or.
Starting point is 02:05:55 just stop all together. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, that's funny. And then on the flip side, sometimes the episodes are too short. Yeah. What's going on? Yeah. You're keeping them too short now.
Starting point is 02:06:04 Should we put an interval in this one? Yeah. Yeah. More intermissions. Yeah, like a half hour silence in a middle. So people can pop out for, you know, get down the shops or something. And then when they see a four hour episode on their, on their podcast app, they're like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:06:20 I'm like, no, no, no. Don't worry. It's got two intervals. I should say. So you can go to the concession stage. The vast majority of people don't complain either way. They don't say anything. I assume they're happy with whatever.
Starting point is 02:06:33 Yeah. Imagine riding into one of your favourite podcasts with feedback. I would never do that. Oh, have you done that before? Yes. What did you do? No comment. All right, the big highest.
Starting point is 02:06:47 Oh, that's ringing the Vegas bells. Oh, I'm sure it was. Have we taken it on board? It was all a well-meaning. Oh, I think it's. It's always well-meaning. Yeah. But also,
Starting point is 02:06:58 it's just hard to... Stay out of it myself. Sometimes it's just hard to, you know, when you're getting contradictory feedback, it makes me feel real anxious. Like, I can't... I'm like, I don't know what to...
Starting point is 02:07:10 I don't know what to do here. But also, like... Longer and short. Like any creative thing, like, people are figuring it out, you know, and like, especially, like, you just let people figure it out.
Starting point is 02:07:21 But also, like, I think to, like, who... What's the Australian comedian that told, Eric Banner not to take the chopper role. Dave O'Neill, like those sort of moments where like just don't say anything in those, imagine that.
Starting point is 02:07:33 I didn't know that. He said, oh yeah, don't do that. Stay with, stay with comedy. Don't, that's going to be ridiculous. That is so funny. Dave O'Neill. Don't take. Oh, no, Eric, I wouldn't.
Starting point is 02:07:46 I remember Marcel here emailed saying, get rid of this Dave guy. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we finally have. Yeah, the listeners all slowly realize that this European vacation goes on for a very long time. Oh, yeah, they're still in Europe. It has been for five years and we wish him well anyway.
Starting point is 02:08:07 Marcel's back again. He's visiting Melbourne and said he'd drop by. So that's good. That'd be brutal if you use one of his great punchlines about it. And we wish him well. I forgot where I got that from. Dave, may he rest his. in peace.
Starting point is 02:08:25 Yeah. No, I mean, no, enjoy his holiday. Enjoy the rest. Because time difference means he's probably sleeping now. He's a snoozing right now. And we're back from the intermission. So the big heist. I like how we just went on quite a long, tedious riff off the back of you going, we better hurry up here.
Starting point is 02:08:46 I want to say this for truth, just so we don't leave. Early on in this podcast, I love listening to it. And I remember, I must have just. been in, I don't know what mood I was in and I want you to forgive me. A helpful mood. I sent a message being like, I think sometimes the tangents are too long and I love the subject. You know, so it was
Starting point is 02:09:05 me being like, yeah. Well, that's feedback again. And this podcast is famous for tangent. And like it's why people love it. So I felt like Eric Bennett, like being told. Like, what if you don't do that? Or if you don't do the thing that makes this show the best? I know. I think there would be plenty of people
Starting point is 02:09:20 who stopped listening for that reason as well. So it's, uh, it's hard. We could, yeah, who knows what we've happened. But I'm a big listener of this podcast. I think we also, I think we talked about that at one point. We're like, but what would we be just like, people can find out stuff on the internet easily. Yeah. Look how easily we've found out this stuff.
Starting point is 02:09:40 Yeah. What if you just read the entire Wikipedia page, you guys? Yeah. What if it was just one person in the room doing that? Probably that is a podcast. It's a sleep time podcast. Maybe you could try that. That's not a bad idea.
Starting point is 02:09:50 Yeah, that's okay. I mean, I use Wikipedia pretty. I only use it every now and then. I think that is a bit of a misconception about the show that we're just reading the Wikipedia page. I use it a bit. I think it's great. And Marcel, I don't think you should really play into this myth.
Starting point is 02:10:07 That was the other message I sent you. You go back into your inbox. It's like, also, Wikipedia is brought up too much and that Wikipedia joke you keep making? Boring. Also, Matt sucks. Jesus a loser. Dave rules.
Starting point is 02:10:22 He's changed his tune. Stuff that I've just written, like, you know, drunk at 2 a.m. When you're being too honest. And another thing. There's a lot of that. Have you ever send a message to someone, like, on Facebook, and, like, you haven't messaged them in ages, and, like, there is a message from ages ago.
Starting point is 02:10:39 Like, that's awkward, too. Yeah. It's so nice that you can now delete the messages. The last message was, like, begging for a gig. And then you're like, oh, hey, can I also? Can I get a gig again? Can I get a gig? How are you, by the way?
Starting point is 02:10:54 I also see you as a person. Hey man, how's it going? I hope you're doing really well. Can't believe it's been so long. That gig. That gig you're on above that record store. So the big heist in Rogue Nation is this impossible mission is how to break into a vault via the server's cooling tank in order to get a ledger that proves the syndicate is real. Because everyone's saying the syndicates are myth, bro.
Starting point is 02:11:22 It doesn't exist. Baldwin's not convinced. So it's only, I think the sort of series is overdue to have an underwater level by now. Oh, you know what I mean? It's only natural. Come to think of it, I don't think they've done, Corby and Fun Run, they haven't done like a skiing level. There is snow in the next movie, but there hasn't, there isn't, there isn't like the snow level yet. That's a big action play. That's because, uh, what the guy did Ninja Turtles and Transform,
Starting point is 02:11:46 Michael Bay hasn't done one yet. That'll definitely have a, some sort of a ski fight. I would hate for him. I don't give, don't give Michael Bay this movie. I don't think they would they. I don't think so. I think Cruz has too much control. Wait, could you say that more efficiently?
Starting point is 02:12:01 I couldn't, I couldn't possibly. One of the fun gadgets in this one is an assassin who uses a trumpet and he converts it into a sniper rifle. That's cool. Which feels like something out about Leslie Nielsen movie or something. Only in the Leslie Nielder. It would sound like a trumpet as he shut up. This is the first Mission Impossible movie to not feature
Starting point is 02:12:24 what they call an IMDB a jump and hang, which is the Starfish moment. So how do you even know it's a Mission Impossible movie? I don't know. It doesn't count. It's not canon. My favorite bit in this is there's a battle at an opera. Like while the opera is happening,
Starting point is 02:12:38 like Ethan and this guy are battling this assassin. And Benji is having to stop this other assassin. There's three assassins going on at the same time, and this same opera. There's this, the worst IMD trivia I've ever seen. At the time of the movie's release, the Chancellor of Austria was Werner Feynman and there was never an attempt on his life.
Starting point is 02:13:00 Wait, they're saying this is fiction? He's not the stupidest things like that. I wasn't even the same guy. What is this from the future or what? I don't get it. I don't get it. This is dumb. I better put that online.
Starting point is 02:13:14 I better type that into trivia because no one ever tried to kill him. That's weird. They put that in the movie. That's so funny. That's so funny. So this is the big movie where Ethan Hunt climbs on the outside of an airplane that's taking off. So this was using a lot of promo material that, oh, he's going to hold onto the side of the airplane as it's launching. And this is just in the opening sequence of the movie, like pre-credits role.
Starting point is 02:13:44 But it's an amazing stunt. So to capture the action, a wind-resistant custom frame for the camera was built and mounted onto the left wing of the plane. The other major problem would be keeping Cruz's eyes open in the presence of the fast. He got no sleepy in his old age. Boring. It's not exciting enough for him. Okay, good grief. So his eye specialist designed a special lens that can cover the entire eyeball.
Starting point is 02:14:14 Doesn't that sound super gross? Oh, wait, the entire eyeball? Yeah. Oh, I don't like it at all. I mean, I don't know. I guess it's all the stuff that the wind would be able to hit. So I guess, like, yeah, a lot of the front, I suppose. Sarkin hell.
Starting point is 02:14:28 They cut the bit that connects that cord that puts it into the brain or whatever. Sorry, I should say I'm not a scientist. But, like, it fully wraps the eyeball and he goes blind. Just in silico. Like, but you can keep your eyes open now. Eight takes of the stunt were filmed. Christopher Macquarie was very concerned that the actor might panic suddenly, but was assured by crews to not.
Starting point is 02:14:50 stop filming until the stunt had been finished. So, like, that's the thing with these huge stunts. It's like, not only is he doing it, like, he's doing it eight times to get the footage, which is just wild. Just crazy. No wonder he couldn't keep his eyes open. Big day. So Ethan's back in London for the first time since the first movie.
Starting point is 02:15:10 His new power in this movie, towards the end, the syndicate, he gets this big list of all the syndicates, like, bank information where they'd be able to fund. their terrorist attacks and continue to be this rogue IMF, evil IMF. But Cruz destroys the USB stick, but not until he's memorized all the bank information himself. Sure. So he, so. I don't even know my bank information.
Starting point is 02:15:37 Neither do I. My wife's very good at remembering any numbers. I can't do it at all. So like, so Solomon Lane's there going like, I'm going to blow up Benji. He's got an explosive device attached to Benji. and says like, he says, where's the disc? And Ethan Hunt replies, you're looking at it. I am the disc.
Starting point is 02:15:57 That's good. The original line was, you can't handle the disc. But they changed that at the last minute. Citation needed. This is the first mission possible where the main villain is not killed. So all the other movies. I didn't mention that Philip Seymour Hoffman's character gets hit by a car. They're both underneath a truck and Ethan Hunt lifts him up high enough to get taken out by the car, which is pretty intense.
Starting point is 02:16:29 So he kills a bit, Ethan Hunt. Ethan Hunt's not one of those sort of superheroes like... It's not a Batman type. It's not a Batman type. Although I was thinking recently about characters like Batman and Spider-Man that must do some horrific injuries to these people. Sometimes low-level criminals must never walk again and Spider-Man is there going, well, you shouldn't have dealt that small amount of. of drugs. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:51 To support your family. I'm the, I've got the moral high ground here. I didn't kill you though, did I? I'm a good guy. You're alive. You've got an opportunity to turn your life around. Actually, I don't because I can't walk and I couldn't possibly get a job, Spider-Man.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Are you going to do anything to help me? The American healthcare system is terrible. And you have access to a lot of great tech. Yeah. Any way you could help me out? Could you ask Tony Stark to get me some new legs or something? No. You should have thought of that before you dealt that some more amount.
Starting point is 02:17:20 Of drugs. Yeah. Oh, you didn't actually do it? You were just next to the guys doing it? Oh. Yeah, well. Got to go. Anyway.
Starting point is 02:17:28 Swip, thwip. Thwip. That's just him saying to that out loud. There's not enough thwarting in too much thwippin. Yeah, this is true. This is true. So, Sean Harris, who plays Solomon Lane, he agreed to appear as the villain on the provisorizer that his character be killed, and he didn't. want to be in any sequels.
Starting point is 02:17:51 Oh. And they didn't do that? They didn't do it. So both writer... So Christopher... I can't say the word Christopher today. Christopher Macquarie and Tom Cruise agreed, but couldn't
Starting point is 02:18:04 find a way to dispose of the character that felt narratively satisfying. As a result, they decided to have Lane be captured with no plans to reappear. However, during the last days of filming Rogue Nation, both of the idea that the next film's mission should revolve around Hunt having to break Lane out of
Starting point is 02:18:20 And so they're like, no. You actually are coming back. And what did Lane had to do it against his will, the next movie? Yeah, the whole movie, he's like blinking at the camera to like, save me, you know. And like, no one, and they had to edit out his eyelids. So it didn't distract from the viewing. Actually, and it's creepier. It's more distracting because he never blinks.
Starting point is 02:18:40 Sometimes in the background of some scenes, you can see him mouthing the words, help me, help me. It's me, Sean Harris. I'm not in character. I didn't want to be here. and then Tom Cruise your steps in front of him and because everything's good here. And they left all of that in.
Starting point is 02:18:57 It's weird. It's a strangely edited form. So let's talk about the most recent movie to come out. This is Mission Impossible Fallout 2018. This is about, I didn't realize all this many. And I should say, I watched them all a few months ago. But I think this is maybe my favourite of all of them. I think they've all, like the last three have all been great.
Starting point is 02:19:19 Yeah, I think this one is the biggest thrill ride, dare I say. Biggest rom? It's the biggest romp, and I think it's got the best characters in it. I also, you know, sometimes when you see the film and the mood you're in can elevate it, I remember I went to this Indian restaurant in Brisbane. I love Indian. In New Farm. And there's a deal that you can have a meal deal and get includes two.
Starting point is 02:19:45 A mission impossible disc. And it includes two movie tickets for the cinema across the row. Oh, right. And I use one of those tickets to wander across the road and watch this film. In an empty cinema by myself, I was there for Brisbane Comedy Festival or something. And I'm just like, I'm living like a king. That's the best. What did you do with the second ticket?
Starting point is 02:20:06 Well, like any king would do, I lit it and smoked a cigar. Oh, that's cool. Oh, just like Cape Fear style in the cinema, just laughing it up while a family of people are like, hey, can you keep it down, buddy? I said it was empty. It was by the end of the film. So this is three years later, making it the shortest gap between mission movies. It's titled Fallout to Refer Both the Nuclear Fallout and the Fallout of Hunt's actions.
Starting point is 02:20:35 Or as one of the villains in the movie warns, the fallout of all your good intentions. And they also, they did the flossing dance in the film. Did that originate from that game? Jess, you're the gamer here? You're thinking of Fortnite. Damn it, I get those too confused. Yeah, same. You know those moments where you're like,
Starting point is 02:20:55 am I supposed to know this reference? And just sort of nod and be like, oh, wait a minute. Actually, you fucking know. Well, that's not like me. The smart one of the group. I'm the Braun. Jess, you're the man of the van. I'm a man of the van.
Starting point is 02:21:12 Oh, actually, yeah, that'd be great. I'm a good driver. Is there a mattress in the van? Great driver, great parker. Can I have a snooze in the van? I can be the getaway driver. That's cool. I'm a pretty good driver.
Starting point is 02:21:21 Not unlike baby driver himself. Yeah, but I'd be listening to an audio book and not cool tunes. That'd be amazing. So it's every now that I'd go, ha ha. Because you still have to match the driving to the audio book. That's right, yeah. So it's actually quite a leisurely drive. But that makes us less suspicious.
Starting point is 02:21:40 That is true. All that skitting around and spinning stuff. Well, that's clearly the car. Yeah. You know? People don't drive like that. Yeah. So this is arguably the first proper sequel in the series because it relies substantially on plot devices and even antagonists established in the preceding Mission Impossible Rogue Nation. So like if you watch this one without seeing the previous one, you would get a little bit lost because there's a lot of stuff going on.
Starting point is 02:22:04 Similar to the later fast and the furious movies. Like if you watch them in isolation, you start to go, okay, why do I care about any of these people? I think that's what I did. I hadn't seen the previous ones at this. this is the one that got me into it to go back and watch the other ones. And I still really enjoyed it without knowing. I just sort of, you know, you just go, all right, I get it. Yeah, these moves are a bit confusing anyway. So I think that must be one of the trickiest things for them because they've got this device where anyone could be anyone else because of the masks. It must be, you've just got to get that balance right so that people watching aren't like, ah, fuck this.
Starting point is 02:22:40 Yeah. And I reckon maybe that second one, the one that had so many masks got to the point where like, oh, this is getting a bit. silly now. Even though it is silly, but it can be, somehow there's a threshold of how much you take before you're like, I'm not taking anyone at their word now. Yeah, exactly. You're still got to buy into the thing. So the wiki synopsis for this one, when an IMF mission to recover plutonium ends badly, the world is faced with a threat of the apostles, a terrorist organization formed by former members of the syndicate. As Ethan Hunt takes it upon yourself to fulfill the original mission, the CIA begins to question his loyalty and his
Starting point is 02:23:15 motives. So the opening shot of this one, Ethan and his wife, Michelle Monaghan, is back, getting married on a beach, but what's this? Who's the priest? Only Solomon Lane. What? And then he wakes up. It's a dream. A nightmare, if you will. This is the first
Starting point is 02:23:33 dream sequence we've seen in the movie. There's a few more in this movie because Ethan Hunts, he's a little bit he's always cool and calm pretty much, but there's a few moments where he's like a little bit on edge. Yeah, okay. Like, he always has to be in control, but he's a few moments ago, oh, I'm a little jitted. Oh, I'm a little jitted by this.
Starting point is 02:23:53 Oh, I just need to. You know what guys? He's like, is in the middle of a fight scene. He's like, can I just have a couple of minutes to gather my thoughts? Just give me five. Can we all take five? Can we all take five? I'm just, if I can be honest, I am in a bit of a weird place at the moment.
Starting point is 02:24:06 I'm not sleeping all that well. And a bit of a funk, okay? I'm a funk. And, yeah, I just, I am not myself. I'm so sorry. People call me Ethan Hunt. I'm more Ethan Funk at the moment. Yes.
Starting point is 02:24:19 So, I love code phrases in the spy movie. So a knock at his door comes after he does the, after he wakes up from his nightmare. And the delivery man says, fate whispers to the warrior. And Ethan Hunt says, A storm is coming.
Starting point is 02:24:35 The delivery man says, and the warrior whispers back. And Ethan Hunt says, I am the storm. Ooh, that's a badass. Nice little combo. In the shape. Shadow movies, they have this as well.
Starting point is 02:24:47 If I can bring things back to The Shadow. And you can. Please do. Fuck, what is it? It's something like the guy, like, the guy says, oh, the ice is slippery. Watch the movie and get back to me. That's a great sizzle, though. I think a lot of people going, oh, I want to watch it to find out.
Starting point is 02:25:08 He does a lot of, the shadow does a lot of life saving. He says, I saved your life. Now it belongs to me, which is, then he has a lot of. lot of operatives that work for him. So if I save your life, you're now at my bidding anytime I need you. Okay, just let me die. Oh, that's the case. Let me go.
Starting point is 02:25:25 Yeah, I'll go. Put me back in the water. Back in the water volcano, thank you. The water volcano. I saved your life. You know, it belongs to me. So the first mission of this movie fails. So this is the plutonium thing.
Starting point is 02:25:37 And Hunt and Benji and Luther lose the potonium. Luther almost dies. We cut to a series of nuclear attacks on the T-Elew. TV. Wolf Blitzer is on the news announcing about these nuclear attacks. And there's a man in hospital bed, he's watching this news. He's just woken up and he's seeing the news on TV. And then Luther and Hunt come in and they're like, hey, you're the nuclear guy. You're the guy who made these nuclear devices and now look what they've done. They've blown up the whole world. We've got your manifesto here. This was all your intention. And he's like, what happened to me?
Starting point is 02:26:13 It's like, oh, you were in a car accident two weeks ago, and since then all these monuments have been exploded by these nuclear weapons. And we need you to unlock this phone because, you know, we need to be able to get this information from you. And we, yeah, it's locked and we need a SIM card to go overseas. And, yeah, so I don't know if you, I know this is sort of off topic, but if you could. I've got a holiday to Thailand. Yeah, just after we wrap this up.
Starting point is 02:26:41 So, yeah. I just, yeah, I didn't want to be without a phone. obviously and also sometimes it's hard to like to just rely on Wi-Fi so I want to yeah I want to get a SIM card and never the phone is locked limited data would be great if you can't too much to ask so I remember watching the scene and being like oh my god the IMF has already lost the mission like there's been nuclear explosions in the world and the guy's like hey if you get wolf blitz to read my manifesto on TV I'll unlock the phone so they're like we've got no choice and they're doing And they get on the phone to their bosses.
Starting point is 02:27:13 Wolf Blitzer gets this manifesto that he starts reading. The nuclear villain in the bed's like, all right, I'll unlock my phone that has all this information on it. And then Ethan Hunt's like, he just says, go. And then the hospital room falls down around him. It's all been a set. Wolf Blitzer was just Benji wearing a mask. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:27:36 They don't really explain the footage of the nuclear blast. I guess that may be. like Dr. Reable, they just got the footage from Independence Day or whatever. No, they put masks on the monuments. Fire masks and fire masks, yeah. Because you can't just be in the movie like, oh, we use CGI for those explosions like you would if you were in a movie. I think CGI can still exist in a movie with CGI in it, surely.
Starting point is 02:28:01 Well, you can, but like it also takes you out like what's a different three of a a CGI explosion in a real explosion in the same world. Do they have to make it look particularly bad like it's climate? or something like that. Yeah, I mean, what's the difference between a CGI and a real explosion in our world? That's so true. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that's, well, that's deep.
Starting point is 02:28:18 I wouldn't have been thinking about that for a long time. That spun me around a full 360. So I agree with my original point of view. The villain in this movie is the mysterious John Lark. So once again, you've got like a guy who's like, this is a, there's an evil guy in the midst, but we don't know who it is yet. Even though it's even, even though it's not what we would. talking about it for like a Dr. X or something.
Starting point is 02:28:41 It's still... Something spooky about Lark. Is that like a kind of bird or something? I believe so. A spooky bird. Like one of those birds that kills? I don't think they're spooky. I think they're just nice little birds.
Starting point is 02:28:51 I think they might herald something. Herald. Yes. Herald evil times or something. Or is that... I'm thinking of the word hark. Hark, who goes there? But you'd hark a lark.
Starting point is 02:29:03 Yeah, that's true. Hark a lark. The big stunt in this one is a huge... Is a halo jump? Do you know what a hark? Lowe stands for? You want to take a stab? Hey!
Starting point is 02:29:13 In relation to doing like a big jump. Yeah, I'm doing it. All legs? Hey, all legs over! You're close. It's high altitude, low opening. That's what I said. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:27 Hey, all legs over. So I guess low opening refers to like how close to the ground they are before their parachutes are opened. So this one is sort of insane. So in this, like this sequence was like, they practiced over a year to do this for Tom Cruise to do this for real. Whoa. They also, like, as part of the sequence, he's pretently like, you know, it's obviously all pretends as a movie. But like the other Henry Cavill's character who were talking about in a sec, he's passed out like while falling.
Starting point is 02:29:59 And so Ethan Hunt has to try and wake him up mid-air and reattach his oxygen so he can wake up and land safely. This guy said that rescuing another person in free fall while skydiving is very difficult. Alan Hewitt says that it takes accelerated freefall instructors over 1,000 jumps to get it right. And something like 70% of the people who try to qualify the instructor level fail. Tom just had 100 jumps to perfect this. So Tom Cruise is like some sort of weird machine. Yeah, you can learn skills real quick. I wonder where he gets his energy from.
Starting point is 02:30:36 What are you thinking? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's from Elrong? I mean, you hear about people like these, like, blood from young people. Oh, yeah, you think it's really, yeah, yeah, young blood. Yeah, but like what kind of age has the most energy? I'm thinking toddlers. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 02:30:51 And remember, he was in interview with a vampire. That's true. Think about it. Don't toddlers nap every day? Shit, okay? That's true. So what are you, it's teenagers? What if you get a mix, you mix some toddler blood with some teenage blood?
Starting point is 02:31:04 Because teenagers sleep a lot as well, but, you know, they just have more resilience to, like, Do you remember being hung over as a teen and early 20s and you could go to work? Yeah, I reckon early 20s is probably... Early 20s is probably... You could just survive on so little sleep and the shittest food and you'd never exercise and you looked the best you've ever looked and felt the best you've ever felt. Yeah, let's kill them. Kill them all.
Starting point is 02:31:26 Drain their blood. You know, have to kill them to get their blood. Oh, okay. Well, okay. This is news to me. Well, I've got some families to apologize, too. Because I've killed a lot of kids. kids.
Starting point is 02:31:39 So Henry Cavill, Superman himself. He's great in this. He's amazing in this. His is a beautiful edition. So he's joining the squad on behalf of the CIA. So they're like, hey, we don't trust the IMF doing this mission after they lost the plutonium. So Angela Bassett's character, who's the new director of the CIA, after Alec Baldwin's
Starting point is 02:31:59 character left to run the IMF, she's like, all right, we're putting Henry Cavill in there. Is he British? No, he's American. his name's August Walker. August Walker. I like it. Augie Walker. Hello, it's me, Augie Walker.
Starting point is 02:32:15 August is a great name. I've got a listener named August or we used to. One of my favoured names. Great name, August. It's a good name. Like as far as the months go, you hear April sometimes, which is fine, or May. April's nice. June.
Starting point is 02:32:26 June is, yeah. January. Yeah, January Jones. I reckon August is the best month name. I've never met a December though. Or in October. That feels, I mean, they're, I mean, they're, I'm on a hunt. I'm on a hunt for a red October Hunt.
Starting point is 02:32:41 Should we get on Ethan? Give him some ideas. So this is a nice little way to describe these characters. So Angela Bassett's character says, you use a scalpel? I prefer a hammer. So that's who Agent Walker is. Here's a hammer to Ethan Hunt's scalpel. Right.
Starting point is 02:33:00 And to every problem to Walker looks like a nail. That's true. He is that sort of guy. So he's got this beautiful big moustache. He is a tank of a man. This is the one, this is the reason they had to see GI out his mustache in one of the Superman movies. Exactly. So they got, they had to do reshoot to the Justice League.
Starting point is 02:33:17 And because of the idea of like, well, we own this guy and we own the other guy. Yeah, they had to CGI the mustache because they refused to sort of work around it. Wow. Yeah. And it looks awful. And that movie is, that whole scene is awful as a result. Jerry Morena is not in this film due to his commitment. he was busy doing Avengers stuff.
Starting point is 02:33:39 Apparently, if he was to do the movie, they would have killed him in the first scene. Okay, good thing he wasn't available. And it sort of doesn't really need to be mentioned where he is because a lot of the movie is like on the run sort of stuff where we're moving quickly. We haven't really put a team together sort of stuff. When you're on the run, you don't have a lot of time to check in with old friends.
Starting point is 02:33:58 Yeah, exactly. And be like, hey, who can we count on in this moment? Maybe the guy who was in the last two movies? Oh, man. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Like a lot of those Avengers movies have moments. Oh, should we call up our other superhero buddies for this one?
Starting point is 02:34:13 They're like, oh, no, he's... Yeah. We don't want to bother him because... He's doing other stuff. This isn't an Iron Man mission. This is more of an Ant-Man thing. We need someone small. We need a small guy.
Starting point is 02:34:22 And how tall is Tony's that? He's not an ant-size. But then you put him in the suit. He's obviously giving himself platforms. He's like 6-2. He's not going to fit this mouse hole. Yeah. No, we need Ant-Man.
Starting point is 02:34:33 Yeah, we need Ant-Man to chase this mouse. House. In Deadpool or one of those movies, and they just have two of the cheapest X-Men appear. Yeah. They're like, oh, the whole X-Men house is empty. And they sort of made a joke of it. But we got Big Metal Man.
Starting point is 02:34:46 Deadpool loves a little gag. He's not afraid of a gag. Yeah. If you like Fourth Wars, this is not the movie for you, because they get broken. So the best fight in this movie, there's this iconic fight. It's seen in a bathroom and a giant club
Starting point is 02:35:04 in Paris, where they parachute into. For some reason, it's also the cleanest club bathroom we've ever seen. And also often the emptiest as well, like rarely are people ever coming into this. Whenever I see something like that in an action movie, like a really clean thing, or someone's wearing a white shirt or in a horror movie where they're not wearing shoes and wearing shorts, you're like, well, blood's coming to that clean white thing. It just feels like, I remember I was watching a horror movie the other month, and this guy was walking around at home with shorts and no shoes on.
Starting point is 02:35:40 I'm like, he's having his legs slashed and that's what happened. It's just like it just feels like why else would they... It's like Chekhov's legs. Yeah, exactly. If you introduce a pair of bare legs in Act 1, you have to cut them off by act too. But did they splatter a lot of blood in this thing? There's a little bit, but remember this is a PG-13 movie, so if you put too much blood in, then you'll...
Starting point is 02:36:03 lose, you become M-A or R-rated in America straight away. Yeah, but this is more M-M-A. Does American go PG-13 to R? Yeah, they don't have M-A. So that's why our, that's why when you hear like, oh, you know, like Deadpool, or Deadpool's going to be an R-rated movie, to an Australian audience that's like, oh, that's that hardcore. Yeah, that sounds hardcore.
Starting point is 02:36:25 Yeah, right. But to an American audience is just, yeah, it's 18 plus. So we've got like PG and then M, then M-A. Yeah, M-15-plus, restaurants. strict it. They don't have a, they just have PG-13. So they, yeah, it's a confusing thing. It's different over there. We slowly mature, but over there, they go from teens to adults like, boom. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, true. They can handle it. They can handle it. It's so funny how beyond the age of about 13, 14, you don't really pay attention to,
Starting point is 02:36:54 I have no idea the ratings of films because I'm a grown-up and I can go see any of them. Oh, really, you know, you don't watch a girl, this might be a bit scary for me. Oh, yeah, no. If I watch a trailer and go, oh, spooky, then I'm not watching it. Yeah, ideally I don't want to know, especially if it's a PG, because I'll be so aware of it. I'm like, oh, they're not, like, that person definitely would have said fuck there. But if you don't know, you don't miss it.
Starting point is 02:37:19 This is the first Mission Impossible movie that they do say fuck in, because you can say one fuck that's not sexual, sexual in a PG-13 movie. You can't say, I want to fuck! You can't say that. Ethan Hunt doesn't say, I want a fuck. But you can say, oh, fuck. Yeah, you can say, oh, fuck. Once.
Starting point is 02:37:34 I believe it is, I believe it is Walker himself that says fucking, I think, in some scene. Right. So, yeah, amazing, amazing fight scene. Apparently it was meant to be shot in four days, but it took several weeks to be shot. And it's just a beautiful fight. This is the fight scene that you might remember from the trailer where Henry's, Henry Cavill's character reloads his arms. Oh, he sort of jacks his arms. way, like they had two beefy shotguns, and it's just a beautiful moment.
Starting point is 02:38:06 Love it. They go, oh, apparently that scene was, that idea was improvised. Like, oh, wow. Cool. Oh, he thought of that. The actor did an acting thing. That's what actors are doing. They have to fill in a thing, because the director is often going like,
Starting point is 02:38:21 okay, you'll walk from this space or this space and you're angry and you want to fight that guy. So it's not amazing that it's like, maybe I'll move my arms a bit. It's like, oh, that was, you improvised that? thought of that. Are you the most genius man in the world? He is an artist. Artiste, I would say. Max is back, sorry, Skull Face.
Starting point is 02:38:42 Thank you. But it's her daughter this time around. And her name, you'll like this. The daughter's code name, the White Widow. That's about that. She doesn't have to be called Skull Face because she's already got a cool name. White Widow's good.
Starting point is 02:38:56 And she's doing that same sort of shadow broker sort of stuff as well. the Act 2 mission is a big one as well so this one's we've got to break out Solomon Lane as I alluded to before so now Ethan Hunt has gone undercover as John Lark but now he's going undercover as John Lark but then the CIA is going
Starting point is 02:39:20 but is actually, is Ethan actually John Lark? And now it's just a convenient thing that he's pretending to be undercover as John Lark but this whole time actually he, he is the evil guy. Is double bluffing or is he triple bluffing? Yeah, exactly. So now he's sort of in John Lark mode, which is confusing.
Starting point is 02:39:38 I can see Jess's face begin to... Yeah, I'm glad he's over a little bit there. Have you seen these movies? No. Not a single one. I think you enjoy them. I feel like you'd enjoy them too, but maybe not. What do you reckon just on having heard?
Starting point is 02:39:50 Oh, I definitely want to watch them, yes. Because they feel like a fun romp. But I think I've probably avoided them because I am probably in that camp of like, I don't really like Tom Cruise that much. Right. But then I saw that movie with him and Emily Blunt. Edge of Tomorrow. Yes.
Starting point is 02:40:04 And I really enjoyed that. Yeah. I reckon that one turned me back around as well. That movie's great. I was like, he had moments in there where I was like, is he funny? Like,
Starting point is 02:40:14 is he capable of funny? Oh my God. I just think it's really good. Yeah. I love that scene where he's having to learn how to roll away from everyone doing push-ups. And the first time he's trying to roll away, he gets crushed by a car. And the army in.
Starting point is 02:40:29 instructor is like, why the hell would you do that? Yeah, it's good stuff. Very funny. The vibe of this episode would have been so different if Dave was here. Yeah. Because he hates Tom Cruise. He would have been saying, pft, a lot. Tom Cruise did steal his first girlfriend.
Starting point is 02:40:42 Oh, it is true. We should mention that. That's why, yeah. That's, yeah. He wore a Dave mask. It was actually really fucking weird. Pretty full on, actually. And then he took the mask off and the girlfriend was like, oh, much better.
Starting point is 02:40:55 Yeah. Anyway, we wish Dave well. I do wish him well on his holiday. Holiday. And I'm not doing air quotes right now. So, yeah, so they break out Solomon Lane in this amazing, like he's in prison transport. Not unlike how they broke out Dom out of prison in one of the Fast and Furious movies as well. Are they set in the same universe?
Starting point is 02:41:21 Maybe. Maybe. I would love to see a team-up movie. What about in the A-Team where they just blast the door off the back of the... Oh, they ride to the door. the door. Yeah, that's fun. That's fun. That's my favorite. I haven't seen that... You've got to see it.
Starting point is 02:41:35 That's a rom. That's a fricking romp. Recently, I've seen a few clips of the TV show and it's awful. Oh yeah, yeah, but I mean, maybe awful in a fun way, I don't know. I watched, I kept watching it for ages. What does that say about you?
Starting point is 02:41:50 Yeah, I'm just like, I don't know what's going on. It's like every time I'm on TikTok, I get Big Bang Theory clips and I watch them. What's the thing with those TikTok clips that it is Recaps of TV shows. There's a bizarre. Watch all of them, though. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 02:42:03 Well, I think it's good that they're helping the Big Bang theory find a new audience. Finally. That niche show. So they knock this car, the truck that Solomon Lane is in into the water. There's this great underwater sequence. Meanwhile, Ethan Hunt and Walker have to, like they have a truck chase. Then that turns into a bike chase once again. Ethan Hunt is not wearing a helmet, noisy wearing.
Starting point is 02:42:28 wearing sunglasses this time so he has to now use those weird contact lenses again so he can ride a motorcycle without a helmet or sunglasses, any protective gear, which seems insane. Where are we at this point? He is in, we're still in Paris. Paris, Paris, Paris. So, like, they're doing
Starting point is 02:42:46 the bidding of the Whitewitter. The White Witteweller's like, hey, if you want to get this Petonium back, you've got to break out Solomon Lane because that's the broker that I'm broking today. I'm a broker. Yeah, it's confusing This is how I broke Honestly, it's like a whole personality
Starting point is 02:43:01 You know Get a hobby or something Get a husband Yo, yes She did have a husband Oh, okay We'll get another one The White Widow
Starting point is 02:43:10 Oh Get a new husband Yeah, that's true Hey everyone grieves in their own time That's true Don't make it your whole thing as well That's gonna be a real buzzkill on their date Like what's your name?
Starting point is 02:43:22 Oh, I go about the white widow Yeah Okay Well I don't need to ask any questions about your past. Are they the spiders that fuck then kill their partner? Black Widders. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:43:35 Totally different. I don't know how silly I must sound now. Yes, indeed. Confusing, those two very different things. You're a silly billy. This is the one where Tom Cruise broke his ankle on set and stopped filming for a while. And it's sort of a small stunt that he was doing. He was jumping between two buildings.
Starting point is 02:43:53 It wasn't a huge gap, but he misjudged the fall. and broke his ankle. But he still recovers enough. Like the shot that they use in the movie is the ankle breaking and he still runs off camera with it broken. Holy shit. Which is pretty intense. Also, the doctors had thought his injury would take nine weeks to heal,
Starting point is 02:44:14 but Cruz was able to start running slowly just after seven weeks. Classic Cruz behavior. He definitely, yeah, he does have some sort of healing thing. Wolverine style. Well, I mean, he's a multi-millionaire. This is true. He can afford virgin blood.
Starting point is 02:44:33 You got a team. Oh, yes, he got a team. You got a team. You got physios, you got naturopaths. Robots. Robots. You got teenagers to slaughter. Nanotechnology.
Starting point is 02:44:42 You got Iron Man on his team. Yeah, this is true. He's fixing stuff for you. It's not like, oh, I'm so strong. Like, I did this through willpower alone. No, no, no, no. You got a team. You stole someone else's ankle.
Starting point is 02:44:54 Yeah. You got an ankle. transplant. Yeah. There is no cable guy moment in this one. There are cables, but there's no like,
Starting point is 02:45:04 there's no hanging starfish moment. But, so we reveal later on that Walker was, like pretty mid-movie we reveal that Walker was John Lark. So he's one of the apostles that are working for the syndicate and Solomon Lane.
Starting point is 02:45:22 Which is Henry Cavill? Yeah. And Henry Cavill's turn from like both initially like, I don't like your methods hunt to like, I don't like you hunt and you're the worst, is such a great turn. He kills Alec Baldwin, he stabs him, which is quite a moment. Their showdown, they have this amazing helicopter showdown at the end of the movie where, of course, Tom Cruise flew his helicopter for real. I like to think that he would challenge Henry Cavill to also fly his helicopter,
Starting point is 02:45:50 be like, well, I'm doing it, so you should do it. You're just going to get a guy to do it, I am? Well, you probably don't even fly as Superman for real either. Lame. And that fight, that fight's pretty amazing. The cable guy moment, if there is one, is Ethan Hunt pulls a cable off a cliff that then hooks into Henry Cavill's head and he falls down a mountain. So I don't think we'll see, I don't think we'll see Agent Walker in the next movie, unfortunately.
Starting point is 02:46:21 It could be revealed with some other guy on a mask or something. This is true. And I believe that Solomon Lane once again survives this movie as well. So they stop this nuclear attack. The guy who doesn't want to die. Please. Am I remembering his voice race? He saw a toss.
Starting point is 02:46:38 He sort of whispered towards. Hunt. I'm coming for your wife. I don't want to see the next movie, Hunt. Please kill me off. I don't want to come to the premiere. His wife's back in Act 3. It's revealed that Solomon Lane, he gets away from
Starting point is 02:46:53 after the prison break, he gets away from Hunt and the gang. And they go to, I think it's India. Correct me if I'm wrong. Sorry, Internet. I didn't write this part down. Amongst big mountains. I think Kashmir is ringing a bill. Which is that Pakistan?
Starting point is 02:47:10 I think it's on the border because the Indian Army does turn up at the end with Angela Bassett's character to the rescue. But a little bit too late because Ethan Hunt's already saved the day with Luther and Benji. and Rebecca Ferguson, Ilsa Faust, they all team up to save the day, but also Michelle Monaghan's there as well. And it was like, oh. To bring your wife to work today.
Starting point is 02:47:33 No, that's why Solomon Lane chose that spot to sit off the explosions, not only because it was bordering these other places, but he made a point to get Michelle Monaghan's character there because she's a hospital-type worker. Oh, there's been a smallpox outbreak, and you need to help this. And it just happens to be on the,
Starting point is 02:47:53 border of all these different countries. So Solomon Lane's just like, I hate the fuck out of Ethan Hunt. I can say fuck once in this episode because this PG-13. And that was not a sexual fuck as well. So I can, I've said it too many times. But yeah, he hates him that much. So he goes to this level of, I'm going to get his wife there. So he's also extra upset.
Starting point is 02:48:17 But so she helps Luther defuse the bomb. everyone is happy the end question mark so we're coming to the end the next movies the first trailer has come out for Dead Reckoning part one oh my God
Starting point is 02:48:36 what so just like the next Fast and the Furious movies are also going to be I think filmed back to back and released as a two-parter that's what the mission impossible movies are doing it so we can surmise as well that this is probably going to be the last outing for old mate Ethan Hunt.
Starting point is 02:48:52 Go out with a double bang. Go out with a double bang. And of course, like, COVID has disrupted this. So these movies already should have been out. But now I think they're coming out in 2020, 2023 in July, July 2014. And then the following year in June 28. So it's still going to be a little bit of a wait
Starting point is 02:49:12 until those movies come out, which is enough time for you to catch up. Yeah, yeah, I've got plenty of time. You've really whetted our appetite. I've got enough time to catch up and then forget the films. Yeah, which is kind of what I've done. Yeah. Because I didn't remember Henry Cavill dying or I couldn't fully remember if he was the guy who turned bad.
Starting point is 02:49:28 Okay. But I remember loving him. And I think just like you, Jess, if listeners have gotten this far and I've gone, oh, is everything spoiled for me? These are experience movies. So it's like if someone described a roller coaster to you, you wouldn't go, oh, I don't have to ride that roller coaster now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you are like real fast and then upside down for a bit and then you go, woo, do like a little twist. Imagine me that personality type we'd go.
Starting point is 02:49:50 Well, I don't need to do that then, do I? Fine. Thanks for ruining that roller coaster for me. Some tiny things. So Christopher Macquarie is coming back to film these. So he's sort of become the guy. Haley Atwell, Agent Carter herself, not, you know, Marvel's Agent Carter, not this film series. Agent Carter has joined.
Starting point is 02:50:11 No talk about whether those previous cast members, you know, that we talked about, like Paula Patton are returning, which would be like, cool, just have a sense that, oh, Maybe this would be your team up movie where everyone sort of comes back to work together on a big mission. But it doesn't seem like that's the case or at least maybe they're maybe saving that for the, for Dead Reckoning Part 2. Who knows? Tiny bit of trivia. Because I made, I put the trivia all through the rest of the piece. This is pretty much the only trivia that I've saved for the end.
Starting point is 02:50:45 George Clooney was offered the part of Ethan Hunt, but turned down to work down in one. turned down to work on one fine day. Remember that movie? No. A song by Boyce Samantha Mara Carey? About that? Bruce Willis, John Travolta, Nicholas Cage, Ray Fines, Mel Gibson were all later considered for the part before Tom Cruise got the role.
Starting point is 02:51:06 Wow. It seems like the, I mean, it's always hard to reimagine something. Travolta. Oh, it's 90s when it started, yeah. I don't think it would be going. No, I wouldn't have gone. I can't imagine George Clooney still getting around. Sort of with like the ocean movies.
Starting point is 02:51:21 I think if they had continued, they would just be their own thing. Yeah, that's true. Sort of like the different directors that might have got on board, they would have just stayed with the espionage thing rather than the action thing. I think most of these guys, it's like with the oceans 11 movies,
Starting point is 02:51:36 they stayed very much in the highest movies. There's never really many guns in that, if any guns. No. So maybe it would have stayed that. Cocking and getting cocked loaded. You got to load your arms. But and then the tiniest thing I can answer that question from before
Starting point is 02:51:53 Members of you two remade the theme song In the first movie So there you go And Metallica, when did they do it? Underrated tune You remember that one? No What was it called?
Starting point is 02:52:05 Not at all I refuse to tell you That's your mission That's your name That one Here I go now Oh that actually I did read about that
Starting point is 02:52:15 That was the one That was the one that sort of sparked That I disappear it's cool It sparked that whole issue with Napster and stuff like that as well. Yeah, that was sort of around that time when Metallica started getting real angry at internet downloads, illegal downloads. Oh, it's from Mission Impossible 2. So that's my report on the Mission Impossible series.
Starting point is 02:52:37 I reckon you probably got in just under Michelle's time too. Put it in times two speed and we'll be right. We'll get through that. Do you have a favourite of the franchise? I think Rogue Nation, no, sorry, I think, I think for me, Ghost Protocol is my favorite because it's like, it started that new era, much in the same way that Fast Five is probably my favorite. But like, I love everything that happens in the movies to follow. Like, they almost feel like their own separate thing. I rewatch all these movies for this report.
Starting point is 02:53:11 And they all hold up in their own ways and they all are interesting in their own ways as well and seeing how they affect one another. But yeah, Ghost Protocol is just beautifully made. It's just so fun. That's the one. And you could probably argue, and I'm sure there's plenty of things on the internet about this, that if you were hesitant, you probably could start with Ghost Protocol as your first Mission Impossible movie and then jump back to the first movie. Yeah, you take out some of the dated 90s stuff.
Starting point is 02:53:39 Yeah, like that's a great way to go, oh, this is what it becomes, just like you can start the Fast and Furious movies with Fast Five and then go, all right, let's go back. and enjoy how this sort of all comes together. Yeah, go back to the prequels. I think I might. I still haven't done Fast and Furious since we spoke to Michelle. Oh my God, you must be furious. But I'll start at 5, I think.
Starting point is 02:54:00 I started doing it. I couldn't, I started from the beginning and maybe I'll go again, starting at 5. Because it's a heist movie. If you like a heist movie. Love a Heist. Yeah, love a heist. Love the Oceans 11. They're my favourite episodes of this show.
Starting point is 02:54:14 Big time. Apart from, of course, big franchise recaps. They are a lot of fun. Oh my goodness. Well, it's been an absolute thrill to be on this show. A thrill to have you. Oh, it's been such a true to have you. Well, Marcel, thank you so much for joining us here today.
Starting point is 02:54:30 Is there any way you can tell people, I've got a gun to your head, so just be careful that you could read this phrase out, which describes your social media. Yeah, thank you so much. And will there be a countdown at the same time? I'm cocking my arms and my gun. Oh, it's very intense. So you can find me at Marcel the comedian on, that's my website, that's my handle on Instagram. Sorry our phrase is so awkwardly, yeah, keep going.
Starting point is 02:55:00 Please don't use my voice for anything. And yeah, if you're in Sydney, I do a series of, I do comedy shows, Best Mates Comedy. And if you're everywhere else, you know, follow me. So when I come to your town, I like to travel, you can come and see me do. stand-up comedy. And you bloody should. Do it. Thanks so much for joining us.
Starting point is 02:55:22 My pleasure. We're going to kick you out before we do everyone's favourite section of the show. That's for us. That's our time. That thing's our time. It's got nothing to do with the fact that you need to go now. Well, now it's time for everyone's favorite section of the show
Starting point is 02:55:37 where we take about 30 to 40 minutes and thank our great Patreon supporters at patreon.com slash do you go on pod. But before we get in that, I probably should introduce our guests. Shane Dunlop, how do you do? Very well, thanks, Matthew. So Shane is the director of a show we're filming right now called The Beer Pioneer. I guess you're the director, but you're also the concept creator, etc.
Starting point is 02:56:01 Director feels a little bit of an overstate. Oversighter. Anyone casually observing any random shoot day of this show would probably say director is a bit of a stretch, wouldn't you say? No, I don't. I think you're being very humble there or maybe. Maybe you're just trying to get away from any criticism once the show comes. My hands are off the wheel here. And this is not my responsibility.
Starting point is 02:56:25 So where are we now? We are in Mataranka. Specifically, the Mataranka Homestead, which is somewhere in between Alice Springs and Catherine. Right. And it's got tropical. It's winter time in Australia. But we're in shorts and thongs and air conditioning's on. It is fricking hot outside.
Starting point is 02:56:44 It is muggy. Yes. We've been down to the natural springs earlier today. Had a dip. That's been lovely. Yeah. So having a great time. We're into the last week now.
Starting point is 02:56:54 We'll be in Darwin over the next few days. And yeah, when's this show coming out? We're hoping that we'll have it ready for eyeballs around the summertime. Hopefully this side of Christmas. What's the show's concept? Yeah. Basically, it's you as the host. And it's loosely a travel show, loosely a history.
Starting point is 02:57:15 show loosely a comedy and we also with beer as the backdrop essentially so you know series one we visited a whole bunch of craft beer breweries because that was a lot easy to do in Victoria where it was mostly set we've been going from adelaide to Darwin so we've had to slightly shift that a little bit to be more visiting hotels pubs roadhouses that sort of thing but that's essentially it yeah hopefully it's It's a fun watch. It's been fun to make. Yeah, it's been a lot of fun to make.
Starting point is 02:57:49 Yeah, so yeah, like you say, I guess if you're not a beer lover, hopefully that doesn't really matter that much. I don't think we'll matter about beer, but even less than the first season probably. Yeah, it's completely different to the sort of beard nerd vibe of series one. There'll still be enough for, I think, the people who like that kind of vibe, but certainly this is more, I think it's really more just a travel show starring Matt Stewart, essentially. Wow, do you hell, that sounds pretty good. I've watched that. I probably would not.
Starting point is 02:58:18 But do you want to do the fact quota question jingle? I won't be doing that, Matt. Okay, great. I'll... I'll look, I'll have a go. I've heard it enough. Fact quote or question. Ding!
Starting point is 02:58:31 He always remembers the ding. Anyway, so in this part of the show, Shane, fact quote or question section, some of our supporters have written in with questions, suggestions, facts. You probably figured that out. Yeah. from the name of the segment. And I'm going to read him out now.
Starting point is 02:58:47 The first one comes from Shannon Burns. Can only assume. Bernsy. Burnsey from the cats. Shannon Burns still play for the cats? I don't know. Anyway, they also get to give themselves a title. And Shannon's got the title of slightly sarcastic and passive, aggressive customer service rep.
Starting point is 02:59:06 Awesome. All right, Shannon. Looking forward to your question here. Shannon writes, Hey Matt, Dave and Jess, you're Dave and Jess today. Okay. Thanks for consistently making informative and entertaining shows. I mean, that's a pretty big compliment.
Starting point is 02:59:21 No, well, thank you for, yeah, thank you. I always feel good reading out compliments to me. I always feel very comfortable with it. I have a question for you. What is the weirdest or most random coincidence that has happened to you? And I always ask the question, ask her to give an answer. It's fine. I reckon this question has come up before.
Starting point is 02:59:41 for. But anyway, here's Shannon's answer. I was walking on a nature path in my town playing Pokemon Go. Okay. While listening to your Super Bowl episode, oh, that means that was, you're playing Pokemon Go still. And I love that about you, Shannon. Some people, you know, thought that was a bit of a fad from five years ago. I'm with you. Okay, let's keep, I haven't even started playing it yet. That's how far behind I'm, but I want to. I reckon, you know, I think Shannon, wrote in this question a couple of months ago and it got cut off halfway so it was leaving us hanging on this anecdote so i can't wait to hear the end of it uh all right so shannon walking along playing Pokemon go listening to the super bowl episode and then uh i mentioned that during one half-time show
Starting point is 03:00:31 the main entertainment was a frisbee catching dog named Ashley Whippet then less than a minute later, Shannon walked past a Pokemon gym and decided to look at the players who had Pokemon there. One of the players was called, I kid you not, Ashley Whippets. Whoa. It was so weird and mildly freaky that I had to tell a couple of friends about it, who were similarly weirded out. That is, I mean, I don't think I've heard of a Nisha coincidence. Well, what's a Pokemon Gym?
Starting point is 03:01:06 I wish the two nerds of the show were here because they would have been able to explain it. Dave and Jess, massive Pokemon. I shouldn't say nerds, fans. Fans. They're Pokemon Jim junkies. Right.
Starting point is 03:01:19 Yeah. But I think, not like us, we're just sort of weightlifting, pumping iron, how much you bench. That sort of is a lot of the small talk we make. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:28 But I think what they are is what you train? You go and train. Maybe you train your monsters there, your pocket monsters? Monsters. Are they monsters? A Pokemon? Yeah. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 03:01:39 I learned that from Dave. Oh, right. I think Pikachu's one of them. Right. Mue 2 is one of them as well. The band. Mue 2. Oh, Mew 2.
Starting point is 03:01:51 Oh, yeah, sorry. Oh, you were thinking of Pono and the boys. The edge. They're not involved. Okay. The other two. Larry and Greg. No, what's the... Larry?
Starting point is 03:02:00 Larry Mullins Jr. And what's the fourth one? It's not Greg. That poor bastard. I wanted to be Greg. You two. Adam. Yes, Adam Clayton.
Starting point is 03:02:08 There we go. You're right. Are you talking, you too, to me? I wish. That is a wild, that is a wild coincidence, Shannon. I'm glad we finally got to the bottom of it. I've been sitting on the edge of my seat for the last few months waiting for that. stunning conclusion.
Starting point is 03:02:27 Coincidences. Do you have any? Well, this is in my entire life or more recently? Yeah, both. I'll go with the more recent one. Okay. that's that that occurred uh on this trip on this very trip uh we were uh always planning on coming to madaranka homestead for a scheduled day off that doesn't that doesn't count as a
Starting point is 03:02:48 coincidence no you we were playing to be here and now we're here that's there needs to be second there is oh there is a second okay uh and simultaneously to that uh plan being made i'd been talking to a a man who claims to be, and I think he's, let's say, it's not to make it sound like as if it's a... You're doubting it. Yeah, a claim. A ridiculous claim. No, he is probably.
Starting point is 03:03:12 Probably, you're still putting a little doubt yet. Well, I haven't fact-checked it. I need to do some more research. Australia's premier whip-cracking entertainer. Are you talking about Wippy? Nathan Whippy Griggs. They're the very one and the same. And I thought it would be fun to have Nathan or Wippy
Starting point is 03:03:26 step you through some good old-fashioned whip-cracking exercises as part of the show. So we were exchanging information, logistical bits and pieces. And he said, well, I'm going to be in Mataranker on the 7th. If you're in town, let's do something. I said, crazy, we're rolling into Matteranker on the 7th. And he said, well, come and see me. I'll be playing here.
Starting point is 03:03:51 And as it turned out, that's the exact same place that we put that accommodation. Right. So we didn't book. I thought, I assumed we booked to be here when he was going to be here. No. Oh, wow. That is. We booked here and then Whippy came along and coincidentally was playing or whipping only several meters from where we were going to be sleeping. You know, I was just about to say this is not quite at the same level as the Ashley Whippet coincidence. Holy shit.
Starting point is 03:04:18 Yeah. The coincidence that Shannon talked about is about a dog called a Whippet. Yep. Your coincidence is about a man called Whippy. Yep. Is this also a coincidence? I think it is. I think we've just had a.
Starting point is 03:04:29 Coincidence collision. Yeah, which... Whoa. Has blown my mind. That has blown my mind. I take a sip and take a deep breath. What a wippy. It was fun.
Starting point is 03:04:40 I got to be... I got called up into the show. He whipped around me for a bit. Yeah. He did a... He whipped for an hour. It was a long show. It was a long whipping.
Starting point is 03:04:49 A lot of crafting. Festivity. He's in the official, I mean, probably. We haven't checked this either, but he told us and he said in the show that he's in the Guinness World Book of Records. Three times, I believe. Which is one of the favorite books of this show.
Starting point is 03:05:03 The most cracks with one whip. Yeah, one-handed crack. The most two whips. Most cracks with two whips per minute. And also the longest whip. He built, he made the longest whip of all time. It's in the kiosk if you want to go. And I do want to go and have a look at it.
Starting point is 03:05:22 And I think to legitimize it had to be whipped. So he had to whip this 100-meter whip. I know. At the end of the show, we, he took us into the car park and, uh, yeah, sort of in a shady corner of this, uh, resort. Yeah. I was, uh, being taught out of a whip at like 10 o'clock at night. Well, it was like 11 o'clock. Can we talk about what, what, what, how it ended with you and Wippy? If you want to. I mean, who's just going out to? Weppy's not going to hear it. Is
Starting point is 03:05:48 Wippy going to mean, if, if Wippy makes it this far into the episode, most of our listeners don't. You were very, you wanted a photo with Wippy at the end of it was, it was, it was, we'd had a fun time with him. Perhaps we were over extending the welcome. And when I took a photo of the two of you, you, I think, wanted to, you requested somebody else take a photo because they'd been taking me. Another member of the
Starting point is 03:06:10 crew's got a great phone for it. So I called him over and Whippy said, nah, that's enough for me, boys. Yeah, I'm done, fellas. Yeah. Just, like, didn't want to have anything more to do with it. Yeah, that's right. He said, I'm going to the bar. So he's like, I thought, Ended on a real sour out.
Starting point is 03:06:28 It was, it was an unfortunate end to what was before that, a pretty fun time. A whip cracking, good time. It was a whip cracking. I thought when the whips were cracking, he'd be there, but it turns out he wouldn't. No. No, no, he was a lot of fun. Deep down, I kind of respected it. I kind of respected it, but I mean, I also enjoy meeting people and being polite.
Starting point is 03:06:47 Being polite. All right, man, I'm done. No, seriously, man, I'm done. No, good on him. Good on you, Whippy. All right, well, thanks so much, Shannon Burns for, that whip crack and fact or question. Do you insert sound effects?
Starting point is 03:07:01 Because you really shit. If you can do a live one, that would be great. Thank you. The next one comes from Detective Herbert Covington. I've just lost him. AKA retired push-up specialists due to being shit at push-ups. Yeah, you will retire from something like that if you're not good at the thing. The good detective has a suggestion, which reads like this.
Starting point is 03:07:25 Hey, gang, hopefully this fact quote or question finds you well. I should say the other two, Jess is in Melbourne having a great time, having a few weeks off. Dave is currently in Morocco, I believe. I saw that. I saw he's somewhere to do with the set of the money. Yeah, that's right. And he's a big mummy head. Is that the official turn?
Starting point is 03:07:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Big mummy head. So it's good to see photos because I think in recent weeks and maybe in some of the episodes we've recorded for coming weeks, we weren't sure if he was alive but we did wish him all the best so anyway the great detective says that
Starting point is 03:08:05 he hopes he finds us well full of pies beers and coffee abundant I have a suggestion a song from a video game called Persona 5 Strike is called Rivers in the Desert by Lynn
Starting point is 03:08:18 wow where are we in the desert still because we were swimming in a desert river just before I believe it's an arrow zone. Okay. I've just heard that a lot on this trip and I like saying it. Yeah, an arid zone is better than desert.
Starting point is 03:08:31 I also learned a tip at one of the desert pubs were in when the chef was about to bring over dessert. Yeah. And he said, what was the S S, S, double S is sweet stuff. Sweet stuff. So that's how you know it's for dessert. Yeah. S. Double S sweet stuff.
Starting point is 03:08:50 It was a game changer. That was a big game. And I reckon we've changed some games for the people at home right now. Well, do you know, are you familiar with the rivers in the desert by Lynn? It's a video game? No, it's a song in a video game. Oh, well, definitely. No, I haven't know.
Starting point is 03:09:06 Well, we will check it out in the van. We've been pumping the tunes in the van. So we'll get that on there tomorrow. The message continues. All of the tracks on the album are great, ranging from absolute headbangers to groovy ones you could vibe to on a train. What about a road train? because we're seeing a lot of those out here.
Starting point is 03:09:26 But the guitar riff that this track opens with instantly made me think of Matt and Sam. Big Listen Now vibes. Rest in peace. I should say, Detective, listen now. We'll come back. The Stupid Old Studio is going to be ready to go, I think, when we finished filming Be a Pioneer.
Starting point is 03:09:44 And I'm going to hopefully catch up with Sam to finish season two. Anyway, it suggests we should check it out. And we will do. We'll check that out after. I'll play it in the van tomorrow. Let's play it. I think you're going to be driving us to Catherine.
Starting point is 03:09:59 Oh, great. Let's start the day tomorrow with that album. That sounds fantastic. Great tip. Thank you very much, Detective. Funnily enough, Shane thought cold chisel was a little screaming. No, in the fifth hour of a five hour journey, you don't need screaming. You did make it through about an hour of Barnsey.
Starting point is 03:10:20 Screaming over the hillside. I needed the energy that he was providing, but then there's a tipping point. It becomes too much. Thank you, Detective. The next one comes from Jess Green, aka collector of fine matching track suit sets. Oh, Jess, if you have any spares, I'd love to get involved. A matching track suit.
Starting point is 03:10:37 I never thought I had the confidence to pull it off, but I'm getting the point where I don't care anymore. Jess has a fact writing, I'm not sure if this is a fact, which is a strong start for a fact, I think. This sounds like how you'd bring it. was in a fact. Yeah. You did that just earlier.
Starting point is 03:10:57 I'm not sure if this is a fact, but it's definitely interesting. I'm a new listener to the pod. Shout out to Sammy P. from the Confessions of the Idiot podcast for the recommendation. Slash all the funny episodes you three have been on. You're a friend of Sammy P. Love Sammy P. So, oh, welcome to the show, Jess.
Starting point is 03:11:18 That's very cool. And thanks, Sammy, for sending Jess over. just continues I've recently gone back and listened to the Trump family mystery episode oh my God there's a weird coincidence here because I remember vividly that in that episode we talked about
Starting point is 03:11:34 Pokemon Go whoa Trump family Trump Trump so there was you'd vaguely remember it it was about five years ago this family in Victoria just hit the road they left their whole life behind and no one
Starting point is 03:11:48 no one in the family seemed to know why it was like they were on the run but didn't know why. Right. And it's just sort of this episode and they kept splitting off from each other. Are they? One of them, one of the daughters ended up in the back of this guy. It just climbed into this guy's yute and he was driving through outside of Goldburn.
Starting point is 03:12:05 And he looked around. I was like, oh, who's that? It was really strange story. Anyway. Okay. So Jess is just listening to that episode and continues by saying they, where they lived is very, very close to where my partner grew up and lived until he was 18. So I asked him if he'd heard of the story.
Starting point is 03:12:24 He said, nah, it doesn't ring a bell. So I proceed to tell him the story. He cuts me off about 10 seconds in and says, oh yeah, I know this story. I knew them. I went to school with them and went to their house a few times. Did you know the Trump family? This big story?
Starting point is 03:12:43 Nah, I never heard of it. Well, anyway, the Trump families that were in the... But it could have been... I mean, when you first said it, I heard Trump. Right. And if you had to have asked me, do I know the Trump family? I would have said no.
Starting point is 03:12:54 But if you were from their town. And then you started telling the story of the Trump family. But he was from that town. I know, but you know, it can happen. I mean, it can happen. It can happen if you're not careful. So I'm just saying, be careful out there. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:13:07 A lot of people are going around and going, I hear Trump, I hear Trump, it doesn't matter. It does matter. It does matter. Listen carefully. Hey, just stay vigilant. Anyway, so Jess says, excited for the potential inside knowledge,
Starting point is 03:13:21 all he could say was that they seemed nice and normal and nothing seemed off. Unfortunately, this is still a mystery episode. Although he did say that their table wasn't covered with passports, cards, etc. When he was there. So when the house was found, their whole life was just sort of neatly piled. They left their passports, credit cards. They didn't take anything with them. So it's very strange story.
Starting point is 03:13:45 Did they ever get found? Yeah, they did. One by one they got found. And they never explained it. basically just snapped out of it, whatever it was. Really, really strange. But that's, wow, that would have given me chills, Jess, if I had that interaction with your partner,
Starting point is 03:14:02 which is pretty unlike that. I know the man. So, oh, Jess finishes with a little question here. Have you had any weird connections to any of the reports you've done? I, I'm trying to think. I don't, I mean, I did a bonus episode of a, about Tony Plugger Lockett and I watched him play a bunch of games. It's a pretty loose connection.
Starting point is 03:14:25 No, I don't think I've been directly connected to any episodes. Sorry, Jess, but that, I think, yeah, you'd trump me anyway. Certainly never that close. You would have trumped me anyway. See, they... It's very easy mistake to me. Dave calls me the pun king, but I don't see him. They're right in front of me.
Starting point is 03:14:47 I never see him. Right, right. Dave's the pun master. Okay. That was right there. I can't, how did I miss that? Well,
Starting point is 03:14:54 that's why I'm here. That's why you're filling in for Dave the pun master. And Jess. Yeah. Final fact, quote of question comes from Bracken Markens. Fantastic name, Bracken. Bracken has given themselves the title of chief marketing officer of the give your kids normal name society.
Starting point is 03:15:15 I mean, Bracken, we were just saying how much we loved it. I mean, you know, I live in the very opposite camp of please, please give your kids some slightly interesting names. Matt Stewart is very boring. And there's hundreds of Matt Stewart's in the club with me. Bracken has a fact writing Shane Dunlop also. I reckon it's a couple of rungs above Matt Stewart for interest, but it's still relatively plain. There's no, there are no Shane's under the age of 40.
Starting point is 03:15:46 That's true. Shane is an old man's name. Yeah. It's becoming so. Oh, Shane's a dying off. Yeah, they're ready for a comeback, I think. Yeah, I reckon. Ready for a little bounce.
Starting point is 03:15:57 Maybe, maybe your appearance on the fact photo question section might. Well, I like, I like Bracken. I reckon is fantastic. Yeah. Brack. Brack. Brack. Braxy. I'm into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:16:09 Remember, there was the old Australian fast bowler Nathan Bracken. That was a surname. Yeah, okay. But there's a first name, even better. Yeah. Bracken writes, comedy is old. This is a fact. And there's no doubt, no doubt Bracken's mind about this, no qualifiers. The first known example of a quote, walks into a bar joke is written in Samarian from Sumer. Is that Sumer or summer? Sumer. Yeah. The world's first civilization, 4,500 to 1900 BC. It reads, a dog walked into a tavern and said, I can't see a thing.
Starting point is 03:16:47 I'll open this one. Something, it seems, may have been lost in translation. I'm like, oh man, I don't get it. But apparently it is, maybe it's not that getable. A dog walked into a tavern and said, I can't see a thing. I'll open this one. Oh, yeah, wow. Thank you so much to Brack and Jess.
Starting point is 03:17:15 Herbert and Shannon. And the next thing we like to do, Shane, don't think this is over yet. The next thing we like to do is thank a few of our other great supporters from the last little while. Normally Jess comes up with a little game related to the topic. So the episode that we're coming in at the end of now was the history of the Mission Impossible franchise. Okay. And yeah, so I was thinking maybe, and we're on the, you know, the Beard Pioneer shoot. So maybe for each name I read out, you can give them a Tom Cruise role or film and pair that with a beer.
Starting point is 03:17:53 So, you know, oh, I'm watching Top Gun. Oh, yeah. I mean, don't use that one. No. But I'm going to pair that with a, you know, a can of Melbourne bidder, but you've got a shotgun, you know, poker. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? Or whatever.
Starting point is 03:18:08 You can take it wherever we want to go. Yep, yep, yep. All right. So first up, I'd love to thank from, ooh. location unknown. We can only assume... Is it one of the trumps? It could be one of the trumps.
Starting point is 03:18:22 They're very shady. I was going to say slimy. Yeah. But I don't know. It could be. Very slippery. But we can only assume coming from deep within the fortress of the mole. And I for one would like to welcome our future mole overlords.
Starting point is 03:18:41 Is it like you realize as you're talking, to someone who doesn't listen to the show how bizarre a lot of this must sound. Anyway, I'd love to thank Chloe Button. What's Chloe Button? What's her Tom Cruise film? What beer Chloe Button? What they're pairing it with?
Starting point is 03:18:58 Okay. Great name right off the bat as all our listeners. Right. Beautifully named people. I'm going to say, Chloe Button, it's a lovely name. I'm going to go with Far and Away. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 03:19:11 I believe the film. With Nicole Kid. Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise. I remember watching this a long time ago. The basic gist of it is that whatever country that I mean... He's a bare knuckled boxer, isn't he? Oh, I don't remember. All I remember is it was a race and you could go grab your own patch of land.
Starting point is 03:19:30 If you got there first, you got to claim it. Yeah, they were Irish. Right. Was it in Ireland? Or are they coming to America or something? Possibly. Yeah. It was old-timey.
Starting point is 03:19:40 Yeah. Was Tom Cruise pulling off an Irish accent? accent? He might have been doing his accent. Like he did in that Nazi movie. Yeah. It's been a while since I watched it. But I've picked that movie for unknown reasons.
Starting point is 03:19:57 And I'm going to pair that with, because it's a bit old time, I'm going to pair that with a wheat ale. A wheat ale. Yeah. Yeah, right. It feels like, yeah, maybe they, in the film they probably grow wheat. Yeah, something, something sort of very old-timey, stout even. Yeah, well, they're Irish, right?
Starting point is 03:20:19 Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. That's according to your vague memory. Yeah. I think so. I think maybe when I just remember bare knuckle boxing. Bear knuckle boxing.
Starting point is 03:20:26 I remember, yeah, I remember that there was like a shotgun start. Everyone goes. And there was a penny farthing in the race against all these horse and carts and the penny farthing did not do well. Yeah. I might be making up that memory. Yeah. That doesn't ring any bells. No.
Starting point is 03:20:42 Thank you so much, Chloe. The next one comes from Tacoma in Washington in the United States. Maybe people who have got their addresses down might help you with a beer selection or a movie choice. Yeah, okay. From Tacoma in Washington, it's Marcus Motta. Marcus Moda. That's another great name. I'm telling it.
Starting point is 03:21:00 They're all great names shame. Yeah, okay. They're also all very hot, not their value, but they are everyone who listen to this show, especially the support of the page. Hot, beautiful people. Marcus Moter, I'm going to use the name for inspiration. go with Days of Thunder. Yeah. Is that Ricky Bobby?
Starting point is 03:21:15 No, no, that's the parody one. Yeah, no, I forget his name in that. Cold Thunder? That's actually, it's actually, yeah, that's actually, yeah, I think, yeah, I think you're right, which is a ridiculous name. And I think it's also the movie where he, he met and fell in love with Nicole Kim. Oh, you've gone back to back Tom and Nicole's. I feel they're there only two?
Starting point is 03:21:36 No, I've watched. You're right, yeah, that's the trilogy. That's the Trilogy. Yeah. The Tomcat trilogy. Yeah. What's her name? Tom Kidd.
Starting point is 03:21:44 Yeah. And I think with this, I'm going to go with one of the, I'll let you pick which one of the, I'm but I'm going to go with a Sierra Nevada. Oh, yeah. What would you choose from there? Oh, they're classic pale. Yeah. That feels like a good combo.
Starting point is 03:21:56 Yeah, that's a great combo. And that is, that's a beer that people say really started this most recent craft beer boom. Yeah. For a lot of people. I just realized there another coincidence that this Tom Cruise based episode has just come out. And last week we went to a Tom Cruise Museum, a different Tom Cruise at the Marie Marie Hotel. There was a Tom Cruise Museum. What's there? You didn't go in there? I think I was putting petrol in the camera.
Starting point is 03:22:27 Oh, okay, right. That's the fun. I didn't hear about this. Yeah, it's spelled with a Zed, but he was a, he was a bit of an explorer as well. Okay. I mean, we filmed. Yeah, we filmed me wandering around. Excellent. Yeah. So the coincidence is coming out of the freaking wazoo today. Yeah. Thank you, Marcos. Next one comes from Sydney. Wait, this says Sydney in the ACT.
Starting point is 03:22:55 There are little Sydney in ACT. Anyway, from Sydney in the ACT in Australia, Clancy Greening. Another great name. And I mean, we probably can stop saying it because they're all great, but freaking hell, the quality is high today. Yeah. Love it.
Starting point is 03:23:10 Right. Is there more facts before I pick? No. Clancy. Okay. Because it doesn't sound like Clancy, Clancy might be the opposite of a name that I would suggest would be a risk taker.
Starting point is 03:23:27 Oh, yeah. I could be wrong. Maybe in some sort of business. Yeah. So I'm going to go with, just because, yeah, just because of that, I'm going to go with risky business. And a movie, I've never seen it,
Starting point is 03:23:40 but a movie I assume is. Does not stand up to modern... In jocks? Yeah, well, that's... And sliding on socks. Is that the whole film? No. It's not all sliding around on socks?
Starting point is 03:23:50 It's actually quite terrible. His parents go away. Bob Segar playing in the background. Yeah, and he turns his house basically into a brothel. Okay. Yeah, for like a weekend. And then he, like, wrecks his... He drives his parents' car into a river and...
Starting point is 03:24:05 That is risky business. They're not mucking around. What a concept for a film. And just, I guess with that, then we'll go back to not taking any risks and we'll have a non-alcoholic refreshingly. What is it? Heaps normal. Oh, heaps normal. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:24:25 So we'll go with a non-risky sounding name, risky business. The heaps normal. The XPA? Yeah, I reckon. Delicious non-alcoholic beer. I don't know if that was logical at all, but. I think it's perfect logic. I'm with you all the way.
Starting point is 03:24:41 You know, I was sent. I remember being in one of the lockdowns, I was sent a box of beer, which I think it maybe got sent to the Shibyl Studios or something. And I, for whatever reason, I only found it last month. And I opened it up. And it was like an original, like a test version of Heaps normal.
Starting point is 03:25:06 Right. Just to, I was sending me to sample. Because of the show or because of your... I think because of the show. Because of the show, yeah. Wow. And I'm like, oh, shit, holy shit. That's become a booming business.
Starting point is 03:25:18 Yeah. Hopefully, I didn't see if there was a letter in there, but it'd be funny. There's a letter in there. Hey, if you want, you can have some shares in this company. Yeah. It'd be worth of fortune now. But yeah, great, a great non-alcoholic beer. Next person again comes from address unknown, shun from deep within the fortress of the malls.
Starting point is 03:25:38 Mary de Groot. Okay. And I mean, I feel like... We're now going to say every time now. I know, because I mean... Great name. Yeah, great. That is obviously a great name.
Starting point is 03:25:46 Yes, it is. Yeah. Mary de Groot. Yeah. Holy shit. Anything with the dee in front is always. And Groot. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:25:52 I mean, I'd take that any, any, which way, you know? Grute, Groot to marry. Yeah. Demery group. Yeah. You know, any, I think any, but I think, you know, I think it's in the perfect order as is. Yep.
Starting point is 03:26:09 So what is, what's Mary watching, what's Mary drinking? Yeah, okay. You running out of Cruz? No, no, I'm just kind of, I'm really sort of going through the back catalogue as I. It's good you're here because Dave hates Tom Cruise. Really? Yeah, he can't stand him. I'm a big fan.
Starting point is 03:26:26 I've come around a little bit. Yeah, I've come right around. Yeah. I'm going to go with, all right, I'm going to try something here. So I'm going to go with vanilla sky. Okay. Because I'll, beers, you can get some sort of. vanillay notes in in beers these days or they try to sort of do that sort of strong
Starting point is 03:26:45 flavoured beers help me out with something here man vanilla beer yeah just something yeah well something that's got that sort of um flavor note to it yeah what's a you know I'm blank we had a we as part of this show we went to the big shed and they do the quiet deeds vanilla porter there we go that's my favorite brewery probably yeah Yeah. And I'd really love you to work our show down back into Melbourne. Yeah, yeah. I've never visited, but I do love, I mean, I've got a lot of favorite brewers,
Starting point is 03:27:17 but they're definitely one of them. Yeah, that's where I was thinking. Just something in that. A vanilla porter. Well, something that's got that sort of vibe going on us. We obviously went to a place that had, that does a stout based on the golden daytime ice cream. Oh, yeah. That's where I was thinking.
Starting point is 03:27:30 Big shape brewery. You know, the creamy sort of stouty porter vibe. It was a dessert stout that one was. Yeah. The, um, the golden. stout time. And I think with, was it Mary?
Starting point is 03:27:42 Mary DeGroot. It just feels like a flavorful package. The next one, I think I'm going to break my own rule of not going over 40 minutes today because we've been having such a good time here, Shane. Sorry, Matt.
Starting point is 03:27:56 No, I'm not blaming you in anyway. And people can just stop listening. That's the thing I don't understand about the people who complain about. No, stay to the end. They complain about this section going too long. Yeah, right. There's a stop button.
Starting point is 03:28:08 Yeah, yeah. Move on with your life. It's very hard to do that, right. You've got to see it through. Now, talking about good names, this can't be on the birth certificate, but let's see, from Roseville in Minnesota in the United States, it's not a cat. Okay. That's the name?
Starting point is 03:28:26 That's the name. To me, this is a cat being defensive, right? Certainly not a cat, but that's what you're thinking. That's what I would name myself if I was a cat who was trying to make people think I wasn't a cat, which I assume is probably what they got that is what they are going for. So what is not a cat? What are you going to think of cat-ish beers? It's tough.
Starting point is 03:28:48 What about a movie? Did he play Cat in a Hat? No, that was Mike Myers. Can you imagine Tom Cruise in such a rule? No. Yes, I'm trying to think of the Tom Cruise sort of. Animal or not even think he's voiced any animated animals. I could be wrong here.
Starting point is 03:29:05 so instead I think I'm going to go wow gosh this is tricky what about did he ever do a movie with his ex-wife cat whatever her name was
Starting point is 03:29:20 because wasn't he in a Tomcat relationship at one point I might think of something else no Katie Holmes yeah were they called Tomcat I think so yeah okay
Starting point is 03:29:31 that feels like a distant memory What do we go? I'm just doing a quick Google here. I don't think that. Were they in a movie together? They were in going clear. Scientology and the prison of belief. Okay.
Starting point is 03:29:43 Well, I feel like perhaps that might work in this instance because we don't have a lot of information to go on with the name. Yeah. Apart from them not being a cat. Not being a cat. And the only cat sort of related beer is what, you know, tiger. Oh, yeah, great. Yeah. But then she's saying not a cat.
Starting point is 03:30:04 I think it's Malaysia. Malaysia. I think. Yeah, I think you're right. But she's, or he or they are saying that they are not a cat. Not a cat. So maybe we should. No, they wouldn't want a beer.
Starting point is 03:30:16 No. They wouldn't want a tiger. So what's the opposite of a dog? The opposite of a dog. Yeah. Moon dog. Moon dog. So let's go with a moon dog.
Starting point is 03:30:24 Melbourne. And last time I was at Moon Dog, I enjoyed their, it's, they're alcoholic ginger beer. Oh, I love a ginger beer. I'm going to lay that one on. and pair that with the Scientology movie. A fantastic choice and a beautiful... Refreshing, if anything. Yeah, Notta Cat's going to have a lovely time.
Starting point is 03:30:40 Yeah. Thank you, Not a Cat. Next one comes from Cambridge in Great Britain, which is that big Unitown, isn't it? Cambridge. I think so. Vicky H. Ooh. Or Vicki H, depending on...
Starting point is 03:30:53 Yeah, okay. Vic. Hey, where you're from. Yeah. All right. I'm thinking Minority Report. Oh, yeah. And I'm thinking...
Starting point is 03:31:03 I started watching that recently. I haven't seen it before. I'm thinking of a long, hard day filming a beer-related TV show. So you want a lawnmower-type beer? You've hopped yourself, that's right. You've hopped yourself into a thermal pool. Yes. Like you're one of those brains.
Starting point is 03:31:18 Like they did in Minority Report. The ones who see the future. And you've got yourself a refreshing lager. Oh, yeah. Just to wash the day down. Maybe the Cupertedi Lager? Cuber Pedy Big Shed, Co-Lab. Co-Lab.
Starting point is 03:31:32 I reckon that's the go. Yeah, I think that's a great idea. A nice warm bath. Yep. And a nice cold beer. Perfect. Bloody rubber. And seeing murders before they happen.
Starting point is 03:31:42 Bloody unreal. Thank you, Vicky. Next one comes from another address unknown. Kate Roo.O. Kate Roo. Okay. So I'm thinking, you know, has he done any movies set in Australia?
Starting point is 03:31:59 Well, I think the Imposional. That's why Sean Connery. I believe it wasn't the third in the franchise film in Thailand in Australia. Yeah. Yeah. The only one that everyone seems to think was shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:32:14 Didn't have Philip Seymour Hoffman in that? Oh, mine. Wasn't it a... He's great. Two at a force. Also, what's the guy that plays Rake? Great Ozzy actor. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:32:24 He was in it? Yeah. Was Phelpsi in it? Oh, Phelpsie. Should have been in it. If not, why not? Yeah. Gary Sweet.
Starting point is 03:32:30 Oh, Gary Sweet's got to be there somewhere. Tony Martin? Yeah. The other Tony Martin. The other Tony Martin. Not how many great Tony Martin? I really don't know if there is an Australian Tom Cruise movie. I bet you there has to be.
Starting point is 03:32:47 So I'm not going to say any of those. I'm going to go with, oh gosh, it's starting to get a little bit tricky. So what I mean, what do you think? What about, what about the recent Maverick one? No, so where are we? We got that last one here. Katie. I mean Rue, Qantas.
Starting point is 03:33:13 Yeah. Rain Man. Rain Man. The famous Qantas scene. Thank you for the assistant. I'm not going to fly via Melbourne. Yeah. You've done it.
Starting point is 03:33:22 The flying kangaroo. You've connected the dots. And I think you're then go for a beer now that you would order on a plane. Oh, yeah. So an international, one of your classic international beers. Yeah, I'm picturing a hyniquet or something. Carlsberg. One of those green bottles.
Starting point is 03:33:38 And a smaller, smaller sort of type of wet coins. Yeah. Yeah. But in a small, similar to the can I've got in front of me now, a small travel can that really makes, you know, whenever you have one of those travel can, you know you're traveling. You know you're going somewhere fun. And those beers, I don't know, they all taste, they taste slightly weird, but I still like that taste. Yep, yep. At times, can't drink it too much.
Starting point is 03:34:02 No. Thank you, Kate Roo. Next one comes from Matt Cosby from Rockmart in Georgia in the United States. Great. Got a bit to work with there. Rockmart, Georgia. Yeah. Matt, Cosby, United States.
Starting point is 03:34:18 Home of Hollywood. Yeah. A lot of movies in Hollywood, I reckon. Yeah. in which case and I'm not sure it could have been filmed in this general area
Starting point is 03:34:28 I'm not sure some of it at least I'm gonna go with Tropic Thunder Oh yes Wasn't there an Australian in that I think maybe the girl with junior at the end of his name
Starting point is 03:34:41 played in Australian Robinich Robert Danich Yeah there's controversial character work in I think but yeah so we're going Tropic Thunder we're going to go with a tropical
Starting point is 03:34:55 flavoured sour so something like a passion fruit sour Oh yeah Maybe like the the passion fruit goes From Brisbane at the Yeah or we could go with a season one thing And go with a passion fruit sour from two bays Oh yeah
Starting point is 03:35:14 Which was gluten free Gluten Free Yeah They're now doing a stout. Yeah. I'd never heard of a gluten-free stout before. They must be close to leading the world in gluten-free beers. I'd tell you, ended up going back to do a gig.
Starting point is 03:35:30 No, with Richard. Yeah, that was a pretty fun time. Had a few bloody gluten-freebies, and they were delicious. Gluten freebies. Okay. Finally, I'd love to thank from Kelvin Grove in Queensland, Australia. Flick French. The names do not stop.
Starting point is 03:35:49 Flick French. Flick French. Sounds like an ace pilot from World War II. It does. Yeah. Okay. I'm really trying to find something here. And I must admit, I'm starting to get to the fringes of my Tom Cruise back catalog.
Starting point is 03:36:03 Because he made a lot of films. He's made thousands of them. But how do we connect Flick French to a Tom Cruise classic? I'll just say, he did cocktail with Brian Brown. Yeah, that's American. I've got. Got it. And we're going to go with something a little bit different.
Starting point is 03:36:23 Maybe not a beer. We're going to go with cocktail. Oh, yes. Brian Brown, my favorite color, of course. We will have a French martini. Oh, shaking not strapped. Yeah. Just to just to top it off.
Starting point is 03:36:40 Move away from the beers. Yeah. A bit of a night cap. Have a night cap. Because this is the last one you've got to come up with. Yeah. Thank you. A fantastic competition.
Starting point is 03:36:49 combination there. Flick French with a French Martini. For the French martini. Thank you very much to Flick Matt,
Starting point is 03:36:56 Kate, Vicky, Not a Cat, Mary, Clancy, Marcus and Chloe. And the last thing, Shane, we like to do is welcome a few
Starting point is 03:37:05 people into the Triptage Club. These are supporters who've been with us for three straight years at a shout-out level or above. And the way
Starting point is 03:37:14 we thank them is there's a multitude of ways. Once you're in, It's a one-way ticket. You're not allowed to leave even if you wanted to. Oh. Goodness.
Starting point is 03:37:24 So, normally Jess would come up with a cocktail based on the topic. I mean, maybe we could just serve the everyone tonight. Maybe we could get the French martinis. Yeah, okay. Right. I think that makes sense. Maybe even the bar includes all nine of the drinks you've just suggested. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:37:42 Dave also books a band. Okay. Often coincidentally has something to do with the topic, not always. Okay. So what band do you have? playing the after party tonight at the Triptitch Club. Tom Cruise ever done, he's not really,
Starting point is 03:37:55 he doesn't, he's not one of those actors. No, he's not Keanu or Johnny Depp. But I kind of feel like you'd appreciate that. So, yeah, let's go with a Keanu.
Starting point is 03:38:03 Was it, Dogstar? Yeah. Maybe he's supported by, uh, 10 odd foot of grunt or whatever. Yeah, 30 odd foot of grunt.
Starting point is 03:38:10 I don't want to sell Russell's short there. And, uh, there's got to be more. Kevin, we'll get Kevin Costner. He had a band. He's still,
Starting point is 03:38:18 he's still out doing. gigs. No kidding. Yeah. A bit of country and western. Zoe Deschanel. Yeah. Geez,
Starting point is 03:38:26 we're going to have a festival. Yeah. Festival. It'll be a bit of music. I think that would actually go down a storm. Maybe one of in reverse. We could have Huey Lewis, who did a little bit of acting, but more famous for the news. With or without the news.
Starting point is 03:38:38 Yeah. Maybe with that Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah. That's a, that's a playlist category that you could get around. Yeah, we've got to get that going to the van tomorrow. musicians who've become actors or done some acting and vice versa
Starting point is 03:38:53 I love that I reckon we get that going for the trip tomorrow all right so we've got six people inducted here and Shane your work is not done what Dave is intense Dave the pun master would normally do here
Starting point is 03:39:05 is I read out the name you're basically on stage this is sort of theory of mine you're on the stage in the triptage club I'm on the door I'm the bouncer I've got the clipboard
Starting point is 03:39:13 I've got the door list I'm telling a lot of people not in those shoes Sorry, mate. There's a guest list tonight, that sort of stuff. But these six names are on the list. I'm going to read them out, lift up the velvet rope, welcome them in. As I say the name, then Dave, normally, you know, you're the MC, you're hyping him up.
Starting point is 03:39:29 And everyone who's already inducted and is being held sort of against their world. They're applauding and cheering. Okay. He would normally work with, like, what I would call a really weak pun based on their name or where they're from. Okay. But you don't have to do that. You can just hype them up in any way you like. Okay.
Starting point is 03:39:45 There's no bad answers here And you could certainly could not do it any worse than Dave Okay Let's see Let's just laying the boots I do this when he's here as well Yeah yeah yeah It's a little joke I do that
Starting point is 03:39:57 I pretend he's doing a worse job than he is Because he's obviously fantastic He's a pun master No, love him All right so six names You're ready to go We keep the pace up I'll just hit you with him
Starting point is 03:40:06 Let's go let's go First thoughts come out Right from location unknown It's Vivian Zhang The Zhangamister Oh welcome in from Mount Waverly in Victoria Australia, it's Kate Doherty. Doody, Doody, Doody, Doody.
Starting point is 03:40:20 From Maddenley. In Victoria, Australia, it's Alison Ramsey. The Rambona. From Orlando, Florida in the United States. It is Candace Suda. Su Suf Suu Suda. From Fisher in the Australian Capital Territory, it's Hannah Watt. Whitey.
Starting point is 03:40:41 And from Indianapolis in Indiana, not too, far from the God's country great greatest city in the world Gary Indiana it's Steve Baker Baker boy welcome in Steve Hannah Candace Allison Kate and Vivian makes selves at home grab one of the nine drinks
Starting point is 03:40:59 on offer enjoy the little music festival that's coming up Shane thanks so much for joining us and helping me I was going to be doing that by myself so I really appreciate you sitting in the sidecar here well yeah it's a real pleasure I've sweated through this t-shirt yes I say you're in the sidecar I really put you in the driver's seat for most of that,
Starting point is 03:41:17 and you did all of the hard work. I really do appreciate that very much. People, please do check out the beer pioneer when it comes out. Season one's still out there. Yeah, you can get it in a variety of places. Of course, a stupid old YouTube channel. It's on CTV Plus. It still pops up on a couple of different stations around the country
Starting point is 03:41:34 and Apple TV and Amazon Prime. It's also available there. Yeah, so good luck trying to find a place that doesn't have it. That's right. So season one, there was like eight Eps, I think. Yeah. Yeah, around that. Good fun.
Starting point is 03:41:47 And yeah, the next season's going to be even more good fun. A whip-cracking, good time. Yeah, if you want to check out Whippy's work. Yeah. I mean, get ready for season two. What an interview. I really thought, I think I got to the heart of what makes him tick. Whippy?
Starting point is 03:42:01 All right. Thanks for joining us. And then what Jess always says bye-e right at the end. Okay, so I'll say, I'll say, later's. Bye. What feelings do you want to be? Like, really yummy ones. I'm avocado.
Starting point is 03:42:29 Yeah. I'd be like a, I reckon I'm lettuce, because I'm crunchy. This is the sandwich is just avocado and lettuce? No, no, no, no. I'm also cheese. Yeah, he's cheese. Okay, there's a protein, that's good. I'm a chutney.
Starting point is 03:42:42 Okay, what are we talking about, spicy chutney? It's got a bit of a kick to it, but it's not going to burn your face off, you know? Some chutneys have raisins in it, which I'm against. No, no, no, I'm a raisinless chutney. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I don't like raisins full stop. Me neither. Why does every baked good have to have a raisin in it?
Starting point is 03:42:57 Yeah, somehow I forgive it in a bun. but ideally still, no raisins, especially in savory foods, get rid of it. Yeah, yeah. I'm saying like in a sweet buck. And also in sweet things, get rid of it. You can go to Bakers July and go, I'll have the apple and custard scroll, and they're like, great. And then it also has raisins. Excuse me, why wasn't that in the time?
Starting point is 03:43:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why is that just a filler? I wanted apple and custard. That's what I wanted. Because if you go, oh, you have fruitless then. So there is in a middle ground. You're either with raisins or you're without raisins. You can't go, well, can't I just have.
Starting point is 03:43:29 have a fruit? No, you're like, you have to line up with all the just custard people. Yeah, get rid of the raisins. But then I like Sultana brand and I like fruit and nut chocolate. Well, you're, I don't understand you at all. This man makes no sense. Yeah, I don't know. I can't explain that. I think it's things that
Starting point is 03:43:47 I liked as a child have, nostalgia gets me through, and now, apart from that, I'm like, ugh. So what about those sample packs when you get those little sample pack cereals when you're on holiday or whatever? You'd over the Solana brand, the little mini-box. Yeah, that's probably the one I'd go to.
Starting point is 03:44:03 As a kid, I would have gone Cocoa Pops and NutraGrain as well, but they're too sweet for me now. It's like the Saltana brand and Corn Flakes and Rice Bubbles. I'm bored of that. Don't miniaturize those. You've ever combined a cereal? Oh, yeah, I love combining as well. Lately I've been working with oats and rice bubbles.
Starting point is 03:44:22 Yeah, interesting. It's a good combo. Oh. Wait, you're talking about, like, so you can see if cooked the oats in a porridge. No, no, just raw. Raw rolled oats on top. On top of your rice bubbles. Yeah, I can't eat rice bubbles by themselves.
Starting point is 03:44:33 What's the ratio? 50-50. Interesting. And I don't like rice bubbles by themselves because I ran out of oats and I still had a box of rice bubbles and I had them on myself. I'm like, this is boring.
Starting point is 03:44:45 This is, I felt like labor. And what did you add for, like giving birth? Did you add anything to the mix? Was it just white foods? And milk. Oh, yeah, milk is a white food, I think. That's it.
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