Do Go On - 355 - Mission: Impossible

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

Mission: Impossible is one of the highest grossing film franchises of all time - join guest Marcel Blanch-de Wilt as we go through the whole lot in one of our longest and Mission Impossiblest episodes yet!Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: dogoonpod.com or patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCheck out Marcel's website! : https://marcelblanchdewilt.com/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/ Check out our new merch! : https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Come see us live! : https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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My name is Jess Perkins and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart. Hey Jess, so good to be here. It is great to be alive. It is good to be alive. That's the catchphrase you were trying to get going a little while ago and it has taken off. It's back. You can get your It's Good To Be Alive t-shirts at itsgoodtobealive.com. I don't know why I've gone immediately into this kind of announcer voice, but I'm stuck in it. We are not. So you are, Jess. We don't have Dave with us still. He's still in Europe.

He's jaunting. Galavanting. He's having a great time around Europe. He's not thinking about us once. Sometimes we message him and he's like, who is this? And that hurts. That's rude. But we are delighted to be joined by our friend.

Hmm? Okay. An actor, comedian, improviser, and very tall. It is Marcel Blanche de Wilt. Oh, it's a thrill to be here. I hope not many people, when you said Dave still isn't here, they just went click. Oh, hooroo.

He's my favourite. Look, probably. Yeah, probably so. And that's got nothing to do with you. It's definitely to do with us. And Dave universally every year being voted as everyone's favourite report doer.

Interesting. Which does it hurt? Yeah. But is he also our favourite? Yeah. No, not anymore. I'm my favourite now. In terms of a sandwich metaphor, are you guys the bread and he's the filling?

I feel like he's the bread and we're the filling. Yeah, he's the boring bit. Yeah, we're the flavour. To contain everything. Yeah. He's structural. Yeah. Well, look, we're delighted that you're here

because obviously when one of the three of us is away, it means the other two have to do more report writing, which obviously we love. Grateful. Hashtag blessed to have this incredible opportunity. But you reached out because you're in Melbourne doing some gigs, catching up with friends and you said, hey, like I listen to the pod. Could I come and do a report?

I want to crash the pod. I want to crash the pod. And I said, oh, God, yes, absolutely. Amazing timing. So we're delighted to have you. So this is going to be a lot of fun. I know what the topic is. Oh, I don't know.

So maybe I'm the only one with hands on buzzers. You'll get to have a guess. Well, maybe first I'll explain the show to new listeners. And the way it works is normally one of the three of us goes away and researches a topic, usually suggested by a listener, and then bring back that new knowledge in the form of a sort of an old high school report. And we do a little oral presentation while the other two people quietly

and respectfully listen and don't annoyingly jump in with tedious tangents. Never interrupt. Never riff. Why would you? And this week, Marcel is doing the report and we always get onto the topic with a question. Marcel, what is your question? My question is, what $3.5 billion franchise wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Lucille Ball? Oh, that's a good

question. I love Lucy as a $3.5 billion franchise. You're not familiar with that franchise? Yeah, I knew Ricardo was doing well. I didn't know he was doing that well. Lucille Ball. I don't think thinking Lucille Ball will

help you. Alright, just think big franchises. Big franch shit. I don't think thinking Lucille Ball will help you. Okay, that won't help. All right, just think big franchises. Big franchises. We've done Star Wars. Lord of the Rings. We're talking about movie franchise? Oh, I can give you that clue. Yeah, we're talking movies.

I don't know how many other franchises that don't have movies of that ilk. Yeah, true. It wasn't her green lighting the Halo games or something like that. Yeah. Call of Duty. Something Pixar related? I reckon think like the, I'm pretty sure Dave's a big fan of this franchise.

Indiana Jones? No. Dave's a big fan. Oh, Poirot. The Poirot franchise. Yeah, those later ones really took off. Kenneth Branagh movies

are big. They're pretty good. No, we've done James Bond. Big movie. Oh, Chris Platt. Jurassic Park. It's not Jurassic Park. Chris Platt. What's his name? Pratt. I was getting him confused with Justin Platt who was an old Richmond footballer.

Platt. Platt. Platt was a name. Platt. We're not going to have any time for the rest of the episode. It's just a matter of time. Katie Holmes' ex-husband. Oh, Tom fucking Crew, Mission Impossible. That's correct. I love these movies as well.

Oh, big fan of the Mission Impossible series. Dave hates it, doesn't he? Oh, Dave hates Tom Cruise. Okay, yeah, I should have said Tom Cruise. I knew one of you liked it. Sorry, I thought it was Dave. Oh, interesting. He hates Tom Cruise. Yeah, hates Tom Cruise said franchise. I knew one of you liked it. Sorry, I thought it was Dave. Oh, interesting. He hates Tom Cruise.

Yeah, hates Tom Cruise. And I'm right. I feel like I've come in and been like, oh, now that Dave's away, we're talking about his most hated thing. This is like the evil podcast version. Yeah, so you're going to talk about Tom Cruise and food with flavour. I hate pies. Oh, that's great.

I watched all these movies in one of the lockdowns, and I'm looking forward to the new one coming out soon. Oh, so am I. Should we get stuck into it? Yes. Absolutely. Well, I've been working on this for a while. I'm a big fan of the show, and it's the first time doing a report.

So I sort of threw myself in here. So feel free, if I ever go off into some sort of fugue state, you can steer me back and go, Marcel, we don't know what's going on anymore Can I bring it back now, what's a fugue state?

Fugue state, if you're I first learned the term in Breaking Bad when Walter White had to figure out an explanation for like why I think he disappeared for explanation for why I think he disappeared for a while. And I think he got naked and then walked into a supermarket and then Skyler was like, oh, something medical has happened to you because of your cancer.

And he's, yeah, I went into a fugue state. But really he was doing meth stuff. Oh, meth state. Yeah. So a fugue state, I guess, is a meth state. It's when you've left your body. Yeah. I've just checked the hat to see if anyone suggested it. It's never been suggested. Yeah, so a fugue state, I guess, is a meth state. It's when you've left your body. Yeah. I've just checked the hat to see if anyone suggested it.

It's never been suggested. Yeah, right. I was assuming someone would have. Interesting. Which means no one is interested. No, I reckon they are. I mean, you heard Michelle Brazier come on and talk for three hours about the Fast and Furious franchise, and Michelle was worried.

To be honest, we were a little worried that people wouldn't enjoy that. They loved it. I loved it too and I think I listened to it over about three or four sittings. Yeah, I think that's the way I do it. I always sit down to listen to it in my podcast chair, of course. Some people have reading nooks, not I. My challenge will be to beat it by going under that runtime. Okay, great.

Well, you've got a good chance. Every other episode we've ever done, beat it in going under that run. Okay, great. Well, you got a good chance. Every other episode we've ever done beat it in that way. I think it had been like half an hour and she'd finished the first film and I was like, there's so many more films! I'll give you a quick little overview in relation to

the question. So Desilu Productions was an American television production company founded and co-owned by husband and wife Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball. The company is best known for shows such as I Love Lucy, The Lucy Show, Mannix, The Untouchables, Mission Impossible, and Star Trek. Oh, wow. They've got a lot of big names under their belt. Was there a recent series where Nicole Kidman played her in a biopic or something? Yeah, I didn't see that. I wonder if they got into the Mission Impossible.

Just a lot of scenes of her going, what's about this Mission Impossible thing? Wink. I love those scenes where they're like, that will never take off. They love those scenes. Or the origin of some tedious thing. It's like, that will never take off. They love those scenes. Or the origin of some tedious thing. It's like, that's how that character got a moustache. Yes, at the start of the Poirot movie. So, folks, your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to listen to this report.

This podcast will self-destruct in five seconds. Oh, my God, no. All right, so let's talk about why I love these movies. I love Vast and Furious as well. in five seconds. Oh my god, no. Alright, so let's talk about why I love these movies. I love Fast and the Furious as well. If Michelle hadn't done Fast and the Furious, that would have been my first thing. I love silly movies. I love a heist movie.

I love a caper. I love a movie that ends with the villain going, oh, how did you do that? Love a bit of that action. It would have been, I mean, she left room for someone to do an episode about the Fast and the Furious

makings of. She didn't really give any details. Yeah, it was just plot. How do you feel about a romp? I love, my favorite genre is a romp. Yeah, me too. The later you mention Thor,

that's a romp. A lot of people didn't love the latest Thor, I love a romp. I did, I liked it too. I was surprised to hear that people didn't like it. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard mixed. The mummy, that's a romp a lot of people didn't love the last Thor I love a romp I did I liked it too I was surprised to hear that people didn't like it

yeah I haven't seen it yet but I've heard mixed the mummy that's a romp mummy is a romp yeah I love a romp yeah best kind of films a romp

they don't make enough romps these days and I love a like a I love a Marvel because like there's lots of action and fight sequences

and you're like normal these fight sequences are completely unrealistic I love it. I love a spaceman and a god having a fight. It's so fun. It's a bit of fun.

A bit of fun. In a world like this at the moment, oh, give me a little bit of light relief. That's what my mum would always say if we watched, often if it was a bad movie, like you chose the wrong movie on a Friday night from the rental place and then credits are rolling, no one really had a great time

and she'd go, well that was light. She's still trying to look at the silver lining. I've heard some parents be like, well that was a waste of time. What a bad feeling to leave after sharing a time with your family going, well great choice Matt. Well that sucked

and I hated spending time with you. I'm not going to confide in you again, Marcel, if you keep divulging my secret memories. Secret memories. Then why do you have that blog titled MattSecretMemories.com? Shush, Marcel.

I'm also a big fan of any movies or TV shows where you can say out loud to the TV screen, how are they going to get out of this one? That's always, and I always annoy my wife by doing that a lot. That's a little, I realised that was a little Simpsons reference to Treehouse of Horror 9, when Bart and Lisa are trapped in the itchy and scratchy show.

Homer looks at the TV and says, how are Bart and Lisa going to get out of this one it's always just see it into my brain so i'm going to give you an overview of the tv series and then i'm going to run through the movies i'm not good i'm going to give you a little bit of plot a little bit of behind the scenes some of the trivia my favorite bits the most iconic bits that people would know um you know tom cruise's insane stunts and stuff. But yeah, I've absorbed a lot of what I didn't write down as well. So I'm also on hand.

You can test me on things as well. What do you think of, because this is one of the things that Dave really hates about Tom Cruise, that he does his own stunts. He's like, who cares? Get a stuntman to do it. It doesn't matter. He's taking the job of a stuntman. Yeah, well, The Rock had a statement about this. Do you see this?

He believes strongly in giving stuntmen the roles because if The Rock injures himself, then how many millions of dollars that's going to take until that movie can resume production. So the responsibility side. That's a real swap at Cruise. He's the most famous one. Pretty much.

And all the other, because it becomes a marketing thing to be like, oh, this guy did all these stunts. Or like, oh, the marketing around this scene was actually improvised. Yuck. I hate that stuff. I think I've just started,

because I've been, I was watching a few other Tom Cruise action movies this week. And I, I think it started to make me think about the action scenes. I'm thinking about them filming it while they're going on. I'm like, oh, this isn't helpful. I shouldn't know anything about the process. Yeah, just let it wash over me.

Knowing that you're about to ruin that for this whole franchise. I like it, especially fight scenes, if they can film the fight in one nice tight shot because they don't need to hide that isn't really the actors, that's really nice because I love a good fight scene hand to hand and you go, oh, cool, they've done some cool, interesting choreography for that. If it's some of those things where they're doing the real leap

off a building and you're like, that could really be anyone doing that. You didn't really need to. Break your ankle. That seems a little extreme. That seems extreme. But he also loves it and also Tom Cruise is a producer and is also sort of has insured himself for like whatever cost it takes for him to do his own stunts.

So it's not like everyone's like, hey, you're not getting paid for the next two months because I hurt my ankle. They're still going to get that time covered and stuff. It seems like it's really like everyone's like, hey, you're not getting paid for the next two months because I hurt my ankle. Right. They're still going to get that time covered and stuff. It seems like it's really important to him. I think he's, you know, he's... Tom Cruise could have his own report about just him and, like, his brain and stuff because that's a whole other thing of who is the man off screen.

Yeah. Yeah, because we all know that he's done some unquestionable things in his private life. He's an odd guy. I didn't know about the questionable things. He's an odd guy. Have you heard of Scientology, Matt? Yeah. Didn't you give me that pamphlet on the way here?

Yeah. Didn't you? You did a report on it. Yeah. Scientology. Yeah. But I knew he was a Scientologist, but yeah. Scientology Yeah

But I Yeah I knew he was a Scientologist But yeah I think Like knowing he does stunts I think the less I know The more I can enjoy his films Yeah

Yeah Yeah And that's why you love the films Of Roman Polanski so much Yeah I don't want to know anything About personal life He's a good stand up guy right

Your favourite film makers Roman Polanski Woody Allen And Louis CK up guy right your favorite filmmakers roman polanski woody allen and louis ck um sorry i'm blowing up your spot matt sorry i apologize these are secret memories all right so mission impossible if you didn't know started with a tv series that i said was green lit by lucille herself in the year 1966, which I am told is around the time when Matt graduated high school. It's also the year the Saints won their one and only VFL premiership.

There's other things. I think the Chicago Bulls were founded that year. Oh, really? Who Michael Jordan ended up playing with. Oh, Michael Jordan. He famously wore two pairs of shorts. If you want to know the full story, look it up. It is a ball terror.

I've seen the, what is it, The Last Dance? I saw that. I didn't know it was a TV series. It's begun as a TV series. And the theme song was from that? I guess you're going to spend some time on that. Oh, you bet I'm going to mention the theme song. Most of this report is the theme song.

So it was created and initially produced by Bruce Geller. No relation to the Gellers from Friends. The show chronicled the exploits of a small covert team of secret government agents known as the Impossible Missions Force. Did you guys know that that's what IMF stands for? No. Impossible Missions Force. missions force. Did you guys know that that's what IMF stands for? No. Impossible missions force. And their sophisticated and subtle methods of deceiving, manipulating and thwarting

hostile Iron Curtain governments, third world dictators, corrupt industrialists and crime lords among others. They were your go-to thwarters. If you needed something thwarted, IMF. Gosh, we need something thwarted. Yeah, there's no one thwarting things anymore. No, sadly.

Can't get it. Yeah, they don't thwart things like they used to. You look in the yellow pages under teeth of a thwart, and it's hard to find. Yeah, because who's got a yellow page? Yeah. So in the first season, the team is led by Dan Briggs, and then Jim Phelps takes over in the second season.

I read that Dan Briggs, the actor who played Dan Briggs, had a religious reason that he needed to end his, I think it was Jewish Orthodox, and he had to end his work day by 4 p.m. So he just became a struggle to work with. I think he's always, I've got to knock off at 4. So, yeah, he got booted. So Phelps usually assembles the same core team of agents

All of whom have careers and some degree of celebrity outside of espionage The team is occasionally supplemented by other specialists So I'll tell you a little bit more about that later on So the inspiration from the series I read about this from a Mission Impossible fan website Called wikipedia.org Are you guys familiar? No from a Mission Impossible fan website called wikipedia.org. Oh, wow. Are you guys familiar?

No. It's got Mission Impossible facts. Oh, wow. That sounds great. The TV series specifically? They have movie stuff as well? Anything Mission Impossible you can find there. The whole $3.5 billion franchise.

Indeed. Wow, that's cool. So a key inspiration for Geller was the 1964 Jules Dassen film Top Cappy. I did not look up how to pronounce that. Innovative for its methodical depiction of an elaborate heist. So this sort of started as a heist film sort of idea, which makes a lot of sense. Geller switched the focus away from criminals, but kept Dassen's style of minimal dialogue, prominent music scoring, and clockwork precision execution by a team of diverse specialists.

Several episodes, in fact, show close-up shots of an agent's wristwatch to convey the suspense of working on a deadline. Good bit of product placement too. Oh, Tissot. My Rolex says we only have 30 seconds to go. Because James Bond always has a fancy watch, but I think rarely, I mean, unless he's got a lasso, what is it, he shoots a little thing out of it, rarely does he have a real good reason to check it.

Geller also insisted on minimal character development because he felt that seeing the characters as blank slates would make them more convincing in undercover work and because he wanted to keep the focus on the caper. Geller vetoed attempts by writers to develop the main characters. Even after Geller was removed from the show, the agents were rarely, if ever, seen in their real lives and had only one scene where they interacted at Phelps' apartment.

So they were very bland. Even in the first episode, the main actor did a little smirk after one of the missions and he was told by the producer not to smile, which I thought was very strange. That is so odd. But you were saying that the characters, initially they all had celebrity double lives? Well, like celebrity in terms,

I think they're using that word a bit broadly, but they're like iconic sort of things. Like this person, one of their team members is an actress. Yeah, right. So she's been brought in for that. That's like one of the most famous kinds of celebrities, myself. Not a good example. But she's not a huge, like, superstar or whatever.

But that's interesting because I don't think I know what Ethan, I don't think Ethan Hawke has a second life. He just lives on an island when he's not. Ethan Hunt. Ethan Hunt. Ethan Hawke is an actor. I don't think Ethan Hawke has a life. I don't think so. I'm not sure you're just talking about Ethan Hawke as an actor I don't think Ethan Hawke has a life I don't think so

I thought you were just talking about Ethan Hawke as an example of just a guy Ethan Hawke is an actor Yes Matt I'm all of a sudden I'm curious to see where Ethan Hunter the character started if he's from the TV show

I wonder if he'll get to Ethan Hawke at some point Oh my god, The suspense is killing me. You keep looking at your wristwatch. So in the show, there's the origin of a few things like disguises and theatrics to trick people. It's a lot about brains over brawn. A lot of it is about how to entrap and they use the term mousetraps a lot

to how can we trick people into confessing to things? Cheese. Yeah, a lot of cheese being used. And I've always liked shows like MacGyver and things like Star Trek where they are often. Another one of Lucille Ball's great works. This is true. It's not about beating up the bad guys and therefore you win. It's about losing your wit, which I really like.

Another iconic thing is the mission briefing, you know, in those recordings and they say, good morning, Mr. Phillips. And the tape message usually continues, your mission, Jim, should you decide to accept it? And then that became choose to accept it for the big nerds. I like choose better. I like choose a lot. And at the conclusion, the listener is reminded, as always, should you or any of your IM force

be caught or killed, the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Right. And then this tape will destruct in five seconds. Sometimes it was 10 seconds. There was some teething issues. Like, what's more exciting, five seconds. Sometimes it was ten seconds. So there was some teething issues. Like, what's more exciting, five seconds or ten seconds? Sounds like a real toxic relationship between IMF and the agents, to be honest.

Oh, we will disavow you if you do anything wrong. Oh, yuck. But we don't know him. Oh, he's not with us. No, that's not one of ours. I don't know who that guy is. Ethan Hunt? Ethan Hawke?

I don't know. I know Ethan Hawke. Yeah. Is that who you're talking about? Is that who you mean? The actor, Ethan Hawke, who definitely has a second life outside of this. What? Sorry, what?

And then, of course, there would be smoke that would come out of the tape that had the recording on it. In some early episodes, the chemical would be added to the tape and then Briggs would blow air onto it, causing the chemical to react and destroy the recording. So it didn't self-destruct. But interestingly, the word self-destruct was coined by the show's writers and became widely used after that. Isn't that interesting that self-Destruct didn't exist after that? What? This is from, of course, Wikipedia.org, so take everything with a grain of salt, of course. What if you hit play on the tape and then your phone rang or the cat knocked something over and then you're like, shit, no, I didn't get my pen and paper.

I missed what they said. And then it's gone. Yeah, that's true. I think a lot of these guys have really good memories. Wow, that must be part of the training. Because I would forget. So if I can't write it down, it's not happening. Yeah, you want to, oh, I need to find a pen, need to find a pen.

Yeah, or I'm like, it's not in my Google calendar. I have no idea what you're talking about. Can you repeat that back? Send me an e-invite, please. Can you e-invite me? Thank you. I know we had a phone call about this, but can send me a follow up email so I have it in writing? That's very nice.

So let's talk about the iconic theme. The iconic theme composed by Lalo Schifrin who was born Boris Claudio Lalo Schifrin in 1932. He's an Argentine American pianist, composer, arranger

and conductor. He's best known for hisAmerican pianist, composer, arranger and conductor. He's best known for his large body of film and TV scores since the 1950s, incorporating jazz and Latin American musical elements alongside traditional orchestrations. He is a five-time Grammy Award winner and has been nominated for six Academy Awards and four Emmy Awards. And this theme was written in just three minutes. Whoa. Three minutes? Yeah, it goes for five minutes. Even if you said three days, I was going to be impressed. Three minutes.

Yeah. Doesn't it also mean like did you really try that hard as well? You'd be like, anyway. Just came to it. But imagine not really trying that hard and you make something iconic. Yeah. I suppose. That's what I do every week. Right here on this very podcast.

Oh, on this? Oh, okay. I was wondering what you were referring to. Sterling on my radio work. He was asked about the theme where he was, he said, I was in Vienna and at a press conference and one lady asked me why I wrote Mission Impossible in five, four times signature. Schifrin told the New York Post, I said, everybody knows that there have been beams from outer space

coming because of the interplanetary flights. The people in outer space have five legs and couldn't dance to our music, so I wrote this for them. Everyone knows that. That's fun. As Schifrin said, the reporter believed it, and all the magazines in Vienna published it.

He must have been like, oh my god. Who was I talking to? Sarcasm. Come on. So it's just been a little bit cheeky. So then, on top of that, the TV series from 1966 was then rebooted in 1988, the year

I was born. Coincidence? When were you born? 1990. 1990. And then approximately 88 years before Matt's birth. Jim Phelps is back. Before my birth?

Wait, I'm not here yet. You are yet to be alive. You are yet to be alive. What a way to find out. Who writes this stuff? Did you get it from Wikipedia.org? Yeah. They also have a section on Matt's secrets.

Oh, God. Matt's secret memories. So Jim Phelps has been brought back, the same actor. He's got a fresh team of recruits. I watched one episode of this. You can find them on YouTube, and it was fun to watch. It's very light, very silly. So it opens with this. So at a party at a high rise apartment, a man gets shot with a dart to make him hallucinate that he's on fire. So he gets hit with a dart and suddenly he's looking at his arms and he's like, oh, my arms are on fire. My legs are on fire. Now let me ask the two of you if this happened

to you and you suddenly thought that you were on fire. You don't know you're hallucinating. You just suddenly think you're on fire. Stop, drop, roll. Three words. What do you think you'd do, Jess? What I would do is I would run around the room flailing my on-fire arms, trying to get as many people, things, pets, whatever, also on fire. Interesting.

Okay, so the third answer was to jump out the window. That was my second option. And this is because he gets shot by an assassin, you know, with this dart. So the assassin must have known, oh, I know what he'll do. He'll jump out the window. He'll obviously jump out the window. Obviously. Because otherwise his plan, because he also leaves after he shoots him with the dart

to not be suspected. And he just goes, yeah, well, he'll definitely jump out. What else could you possibly do? And especially like high-rise apartments, usually pretty hard to open a window. It's true. Or the windows are quite solid. This is very true.

But he just jumps out a window. That's the worst thing you can do. That's a terrible idea. Because you don't want to starve out of oxygen. There wasn't even like a big pool underneath or anything like that. Jump in the shower. You know where the most oxygen is? Outside.

That's true. You're just jumping right into oxygen. That's dumb. Very dumb. Surely you would assume that he's going to at least go into a bath or a shower. Or a tap of any kind. To overturn his fish tank. Throw a drink at me. Yeah, throw a drink. You want or... Or a tap of any kind. Overturn his fish tank, you know?

Throw a drink at me. Yeah, throw a drink. You want me to throw a drink at you? Yeah, this wasn't... I wasn't talking about in the scene. I'm just saying, hey, Marcel, can you throw a drink at me, please? And then let's get back to whatever you're talking about. I wasn't listening.

So it's like the show's very camp and silly. Once again, it's more about trapping criminals so in this episode that i watched the assassin from the start has killed jim's best friend so this is what brings jim back into the field um and there's even when he goes to the funeral for his friend the mission impossible theme is playing but it's a sad version of the missing and and all the composers for all the movies after that do play around with the Mission Impossible theme in different sort of ways, which is cool. So they need to trap this guy to get his main contact.

So they go to, they recruit a spy who's also a drama teacher, which I think is delightful. As a drama teacher myself, I think that's great because I also, that means I could be called up to be a spy. Yeah, as some sort of celebrity. A drama teacher. Space jump. You'd be able to do stuff like that, which is really cool.

But really they are sort of doing like immersive theatre on this guy because they pick up the assassin in a taxi and this guy's Australian and he's doing an Australian accent but pretending to be British. and like because americans don't have good ear for accents this australian guy's sort of doing british but he just sounds completely australian americans don't have good ears for accents i didn't i didn't know that you haven't heard that you know how you never encountered an american they're like oh you british you know you never had that situation yeah that's right that's true they don't have a good ear. Like, if you ask an American, I'm speaking very generally, to do an Australian accent, like, it is wild.

I think it just feels like they're two separate kinds of accents. Like, it's easier, I'm guessing, but it feels like it would be easier for us generally to do an English accent than to do an American accent. Would that be fair? But there's so many Australian actors who work in Hollywood with American accents, I guess. I just think Americans, as far as I've encountered them, are very in their own little part of the universe.

Right. They don't really think much about it. I'm just talking generally. I can do American or English equally well. Can you show us a little taste? Yeah. Do you need a phrase to say? Yeah, well, ask me a question.

Where's your favourite restaurant in Melbourne? Favorite restaurant in Melbourne? Let me have a think here. Where are you from again? I'm from America. What part of America? No, Marcel is from America. I'm from America.

Yeah, I'm from the Midwest. Or, you know, the California coast. I've actually traveled around. My accent's a little muddled because of that. But, yeah, I love a little bagel place down on 3rd. Down on 3rd? Yeah, down on 3rd. And talk to Keith there.

He's fantastic. And he'll hook you up if you tell him my name, which is Johnny Pizazz. Well, I mean, this was awkward that, name, which is Johnny Pizazz. Well, I mean, this was awkward that someone named Johnny Pizazz happened to walk in and interrupt Matt's impersonation. Matt was about to do that impersonation and Johnny Pizazz walks in. Awkward. Matt, do you want to try it now, now that Johnny Pizazz is left? No, I mean, we've already had an American.

I could do an English one if you like. Oh, okay. Yeah, sure. Would you ask me a question? Jess, do you want to ask this question? Yeah, I'll ask a question. Hey, Matt, what are you doing tonight? What am I doing tonight?

Good question, Nat. Probably head over to this great bagel place on 3rd. Talk to Keith. He'll look after you. Just tell him I sent you. My name is Johnny Pizazz. That's so weird that another guy named Johnny Pizazz walked in right before you were going to do that impersonation. Matt, do you want to do the actual impersonation? What?

I mean, I don't know. What is this bloody central station here? Everyone's coming in and out. We're trying to podcast here. God. Honestly, we probably should get back to the report, but I would have loved to have had a go. But what's great as well,

so you might have heard about the people using masks and disguises in the Mission Impossible series. So in the 1998 version, they don't have the technology where they're getting a computer chip attached to their neck or whatever that changes their voice. In this one, they're just very good at impersonating people. So there's multiple scenes. There's one episode where they're listening to a recording of the assassin and the guy's going, Oh, let me just try and see if I can get this voice a little bit deeper, a little bit up.

And then it swaps to a dubbing over. So it's just the other actor doing the voice, and it's so amazing. It's like, oh, I've nailed it now. That is very good. It's very, very funny. Because it would have been hard. The mask thing, I guess, would have been harder to pull off

with smaller TV budgets in the 80s. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of disguises. I was listening to a podcast called The Fuse that digs deeper in. They've got over 100 episodes on everything Mission Impossible. Wow. They were a great resource. And there are some episodes, I believe there's an episode where they are disguised as people from the Arabic people, I believe they were described as. from the Arabic people, I believe they were described as.

So they do a little bit of brown face in the show, which is a little awkward in today's world. It's hard. It takes you out of it, doesn't it? When you're watching something, you're like, you know, it's dated, but it's a bit of fun. Oh, no. Oh, no, I'm not enjoying it anymore. Whoopsie-daisy.

So let's get stuck into the movies, which is really why we're here. I just wanted to tell you a little bit about the TV series to get us stuck into it. So, as I say, they've made over $3.5 billion to date. They're the 16th highest grossing film series of all time. Wow. Name a top 15. Jess, go. Series.

Sound of Music 1 and 2. There's a second movie? There's a second one. It's not good. Do the Nazis come back? Nazis get them. It's not good. Sound of Music 1 and 2. There's a second movie? There's a second one. It's not good. Do the Nazis come back? Nazis get them. It's not good. Sound of Music 2.

Nazis fight back. Less sounds of music. Oh, I actually don't worry about the rest of that list. So the general formula, if you don't know, the general shape of these movies, you're like Act 1, a mission doesn't quite go to plan. Act 2, they have an extremely tricky mission. Some might say impossible mission to try and pull off.

Then Act 3 is usually the showdown or like a third mission to make up for the main mission not quite going to plan. That's usually the sort of framework. Did they play around with the different title? Mission a bit tricky? Mission pretty tough. I'm sure there was a million parodies of this stuff. So I'm sure there are.

I should also, you should forgive me because also this movie series is called Mission colon impossible. So sorry about that. I didn't make that quite clear. It's Mission Colon Impossible. I don't know if I like it. I mean, it makes sense grammatically.

I understand the need for it. Yeah, where would I put the colon? Probably in my guts, I reckon. That's where I put the colon? Yeah, I think that's where it belongs Get it back in there I think you should take it off this table And put it back where it fucking belongs

Do I have a colon? Yeah I got a colon Do you have a colon? I hope so Otherwise this is a medical emergency Yeah you do Do I have a colon? Can I get a colon?

I had a brief moment where I was like Thinking of it like a prostate I was like I don't have one of those Can I get a colon? I had a brief moment where I was thinking of it like a prostate. I was like, I don't have one of those, do I? Wait, is colon, is that the technical name for a dick and balls? Is that a dick and balls? Have I got one of those or not? It's fine either way. Upcoming special report just on the colon.

Yeah, right. So Mission Impossible 1996. What were you guys doing in 1996? I was in That was probably the year I was in prep First year of school I think Or was that That sounds right yeah

I was redoing year 7 For I think a hundred Time or so Oh really? Yeah yeah Just didn't take It took me a long time to get through school Hundreds of years or so. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Just didn't take. It took me a long time to get through school.

Hundreds of years. But he got there and we're very proud of him. So this one was directed by Brian De Palma who's famous for the untouchable Scarface and also I found out the music video for Relax by Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Quite an oeuvre, as they say. Classic.

So Brian De Palma wanted to make his own thing as evidenced by this behind-the-scenes anecdote. So the person responsible for directing more episodes of the original Mission Impossible television series than anyone else was asked by the head of Paramount Pictures to be present on the set for consulting and advising. Director Brian De Palma approached him and told him how much he had enjoyed

the original series. He also added that the movie would be nothing like the television show and that his presence on the set would only result in making both of them uncomfortable. And then Reza, the director, thanked him for his honesty and left the set

never to return. But I kind of liked that as well. Paramount said, oh, you should come and be present, and then Brian's going like, don't worry about it. Yeah, it'll be a waste of your time. And the guy's like, sick, thanks for telling me. All right. It is boring to hang out on film sets.

Film sets are so boring. Incredibly boring. Imagine if you don't have anything really to do. Yeah, exactly. Which is what most people are most of the time, right? Yeah. It's a lot of sitting and waiting. Waiting to be consulted.

Hey, what do you reckon about this shot? Yeah. Do you reckon it's good that I've filmed the actors in it? Yeah, it's good. I think it was a good choice to film the actors. Do you usually point the camera at the actors when you were doing the Mission Impossible TV series? Cameras are a bit bigger, aren't they?

Anyway, thanks for stopping by. That's a big help. Thanks, man. Can I get your cuppa? Oh, you just want to head off. Yeah, all right. All right. All right.

So this feels a little bit like a gritty reboot. And I feel like Batman Begins was like when people started using the term gritty reboot. But I feel like the 90s had its share of gritty reboots. Even movies like Goldeneye, which came out the year before, had a little bit of grittiness to it. A lot of post-Cold War movies. Batman 1990, at the time, was a gritty reboot of the 1960s ones. I don't know that much about the Bond films, but I didn't realize Pierce Brosnan was part of the gritty reboot. But I guess because before that,

Roger Moore was even sillier or something. Yeah, I mean, GoldenEye in comparison to the other ones is much more grounded. It's way sillier compared to Casino Royale. But at the time, it was a shift. And you got Judi Dench turning up, you know? I love you, Judi Dench. There's no one grittier. There's no one grittier than Judi. I love Judi Dench turning up, you know? I love you, Judi Dench. There's no one grittier.

There's no one grittier than Judi. I love Judi Dench. I love her too. It was written by David Koepp, who wrote Jurassic Park, and one of my all-time favorite Alec Baldwin movies, The Shadow. Have you guys ever seen The Shadow? No. I don't think I've seen it.

Is that like an old comic book or something? It is. It was based on a noir radio show and turned into a movie. It's delightful. It's very camp and silly if you're into that sort of thing. Do you guys like romps?

Yeah, I love a romp. Oh my God, I love a romp. It was produced by Tom Cruise and Paula Wagner so all the Mission Impossible movies have been produced by Cruise so he's always had a level of control. Some might say Cruise Control.

Sorry, I did not write that down. But I felt in my head it had to be said out loud. I paused to see if anyone else was going to take that out. You said it and then you did a mat and instantly regretted it, kind of. But you also delighted in it, which is beautiful to watch. Some might say Cruise Control. I just want to get that clean in case you need it for the edit. Dave would have said it for sure if Dave was here.

I'm talking like he's dead. Yeah. RIP. Moment of silence. Dead to us. RIP. Rest in pie. Rest in pie.

Rest in pie. Unlike Michelle, my summaries of the movies, I'm going to use the wiki synopsis, and then I'm just going to My summaries of the movies I'm going to use the wiki synopsis And then I'm just going to pull out a bunch of other things So if the movies don't seem super clear Feel free to shake me if you want Wiki does It cops a bit of shit

But it does some things really well And synopsis are often the best ones online I think so too So in the first movie Ethan Hunt is framed for the murder of his IMF team during a botched mission in Prague and accused of selling government secrets to an arms dealer known only as Max. On the run, Ethan seeks to uncover the real traitor and clear his name. Intriguing. I don't think an anonymous kind of person only known as Max.

It's not that, I don't know, it's just not very intimidating. What's a better name? Like as in it should be like only known as the Baron. Oh, that's cool. You know? Mr. X. Yeah, Mr. X. Something a little mystery, but it's like Max.

I know people called Max and they're lovely. So I'm not intimidated by that. Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe we can get on the phone to Brian. Yeah, what about Skull Face? Yeah, known only as Skull Face. Should I redo it? Yeah.

Ethan Hunt is framed for the murder of his IMF team during a botched mission in Prague and accused of selling government secrets to an arms dealer known only as Skull Face. Yes, now I'm watching that movie. He's got chills. Every time Max comes up later on, I'll just say Skull Face. Thank you. Max is his first name. Max Skull Face.

So Ethan Hunt, I was surprised to find out that Ethan Hunt was an original character created for Tom Cruise. I assumed that he must be in the original series. And did you know that Tom Cruise's full name is Thomas Cruise Mappetha IV? No. Cruise is his middle name. I believe so, according to the media.

His surname is Mappetha. Mappetha. Mappetha. I don't know if, and this is why Cruise maybe deserves his own thing, because I don't know if that's also like a Scientology name, like his alien name or something. Mappatha. Like the fourth.

I don't know why that fourth is there. Like that seems extreme. But anyway. It's also just kind of weird to think of him as a Thomas, you know? This is true. He's not a Thomas. Yeah, some people you're just so used to their shortened name. Like, okay, so like my friend Mish Wittrup,

if we're ever out and she has to put her name down for something and she says Michelle, I'm like, what? Who's Michelle? Who the hell is Michelle? You're Mish. Very different. Yeah. Or when we go out and I put my name down as Matt Alexander, you're like, what? I didn't know that's what it was short for, but it is, yeah.

Matt Alexander. Matt Alexander. It's long and it's stupid, but it's his name. We can see? I didn't know that's what it was short for, but it is, yeah. Matt Alexander. Matt Alexander. It's long and it's stupid, but it's his name and we love him. It's his name and we love him. So this first movie is more espionage than action. Not only is it the only film in the franchise when Ethan Hunt doesn't fire a gun, it's the only one to not have any shootouts or gunfights. There's only five gunshots in the whole movie. Wow.

Isn't that wild? Because I watched them all back to back to back in a week, they've all blurred together. But this is the classic drop down on the wire. You better believe it is. Drop of sweat sort of thing. That's that iconic scene. That is iconic. Simpsons probably parodied that, I would have thought.

I think everyone's had a little go. Just like everyone did their own Matrix parody, everyone did their Mission Impossible. So the team, I won't tell you too much about the team that gets killed off in Act 1 besides Emilio Estevez. Oh, yeah. That was shocking because you're watching the film going, he obviously survives.

He won't get crushed by this elevator. That's exactly what I wrote. And I think that was deliberate. I wanted at least one face in that first team that you're going, oh, okay, cool, we're going to be with Emilio for the whole movie. And I watched this as, I would have been about seven at the time. I had older brothers. And it's a PG-13 M-rated movie in Australia.

So that means you can sort of watch with parental guidance. But it's pretty violent like first scene Emilio is getting smushed by this elevator and then like also blades come out at the top that he gets sort of

impaled by you don't see it all but it's heavily implied and as a kid that was always sort of worse real nightmare fuel stuff yeah like in that

remember did you ever see that movie Volcano where like the guy gets melted in the subway? Oh, no. I did see Dante's Peak, which I think came out about the same time when the volcano movies were big.

And the grandma gets melted in the river. With the boat? Yeah, she pushes the boat. And you re-watch that movie. I don't know how much you really needed to jump out and push that boat. I think she was just tired. Yeah. She was like, leave me.

I'm done. Wow. This is hard. I was wrong to doubt the mountain. Yeah, I reckon around the same time, I remember seeing a movie called Executive Decision. And I don't know if this was a big thing at the time where they'd kill off a big character that you didn't expect.

Because Steven Seagal, I think it was the top build in the film almost. And he died in the first ten minutes. Really? I thought Steven Seagal had a clause in his contract that he can never lose a fight. Oh. That's interesting. Maybe it was after this movie. And he might have sort of martyred himself or something.

I can't remember. Interesting. Interesting. He might have personally made the executive decision to kill himself. That's the titular executive decision. Kill himself off in the movie. So Brian De Palma doesn't really do fun for the whole family, which the movie sort of evolved to become. After the original team is killed, Ethan Hunt has to put a new team together.

He recruits Luther Stickle, played by Ving Rhames, perhaps most famous for playing Marcellus Wallace in Pulp Fiction, and Krieger, played by Jean Reno, acclaimed French actor. You might know him from movies like The Professional or Godzilla, the 1990s Godzilla. And also Claire,

played by Emmanuelle Bière, joins them as the only other survivor from the botched mission who used to have a relationship with Jim Phelps who's a returning character who gets the mission. So the movie opens with Jim Phelps played by John Voight this time.

The original actor did not come back receiving his mission on a passenger jet via an in-flight movie on a videotape. So this really shows the era. He lights a cigarette on the plane to disguise the tape. Self-destructing. So it's a cool little opening moment.

I didn't realise he was a returning character. That's great. That adds a little something. I don't know how to put my finger on it. I like the little fan service-y sort of thing. Yeah, sort of fan je ne sais quoi. Oh, yeah. Sort of certain fan je ne sais quoi. Oh, interesting.

I don't know if you could put it in those sort of terms. Is that a bit of French there? That's something that Leon, the professional, might have said. We're introduced to Hunt and his team at the end of a mission, using masks and trickery to get their target to give up his secrets. It's a classic IMF-style moment from the TV show, doing a bit of theatre to trick the baddies. Each movie, I'll mention some theatre to trick the baddies.

Each movie, I'll mention some of the cool gadgets that feature. Love that. It's never James Bond sort of levels, but they always have a few things. Masks are a big fixture of the films, like I mentioned before. They always love a mask reveal where they pull off their mask and they're like, they were a different person than the person we thought they were. where they pull off their mask and they're like, they were a different person than the person we thought they were. And it's the same as the voice version in the old TV shows.

It's like they just fully change actor, obviously. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then it's just that mask coming off and the mask's on the ground. You're like, that didn't do this. There's no way. There's no way. I love a mask, mate. And the other funny thing is in this, I'm sure this first film, Ethan Hunt goes in under disguise,

but it's clearly Tom Cruise in disguise, but every other disguise is perfectly the other actor. Yeah, the senator that he's doing the impression of also looks a lot like Tom Cruise. So him doing the disguise is just him. But it makes sense because otherwise that whole first mission, you wouldn't have a Tom Cruise performance in it. So it does make sense.

It had to be in there for that reason. Otherwise you're like, where's Tom? Where's the guy I bought the ticket for? There's also this movie features explosive chewing gum as well. It's green on one side and red on the other. So then when you combine it it explodes.

And Emilio explains to Hunt, he says, red light, green light to explain how it works, which is an explanation, I suppose. Yeah. Sure. So what are you supposed to do with it? You smush them together and then, like, smush it on whatever you need to explode. Michelle, you're over-explaining.

Jess, red light, green light. Sorry. Got it. I'm just thinking, like, I mean, you know, you're over-explaining. Jess, red light, green light. Sorry, got it. I'm just thinking, like, I mean, you know, you might need to explode a wall to stop. But why not just give somebody the chewy and then they chew it and then they explode? Yeah, I mean, how many guys are accepting the chewy

that you need? If you've been captured by them, you're like, hey, before... Stand next to that wall and chew on this Just saying Oh, your breath stings Here you go, I'll look after you Sorry, I'm the good cop

I won't tell anybody how bad your breath is So, Kittredge is a big character in this first movie He's the director of IMF. And after the first mission goes to shit, Eugene Kittredge meets Hunt in a restaurant in Prague and accuses him of being the mole that destroyed the mission. The mole is just trying to get the knock list, which is a list of undercover agents' real identities. This is the MacGuffin of the first movie. Every movie has a MacGuffin.

None of the MacGuffins really matter in terms of what they actually do. They just need something to chase, of course. This scene is full of Dutch tilts to create unease and tension. I appreciate the Dutch tilt as a Dutch person, a big fan. What are your thoughts on the Dutch oven? Not a fan. Not a fan. Interesting. your thoughts on the Dutch oven? Not a fan. My wife hates it.

You're picking and choosing what Dutch you like. I love all Dutch things. Dutch pancakes? Dutch history? Uh-oh. Don't look into it too much. So realising that Hunt is in a sticky situation he uses his explosive chewing gum on the nearby giant fish tank and leaps out the

restaurant it's a really great scene where he he dives out the window and and kittredge is like what am i gonna do i'm surrounded by fish yeah you know i'm trying to pick up the fish somebody get buckets of water they're flipping and flopping on the ground i love this fish i need to chase him but i love fish too much when they use editing in that sort of way to don't show why they couldn't really pursue the guy

there's not really a good reason why he could get away in that situation but most of these movies is Ethan Hunt on the run or having to pretend

he's on the run and Kittredge becomes his pursuer for the rest of the movie so he's having Hunt is having to find who the mole is after his whole team is dead while also Kittredge at IMFuer for the rest of the movie. So Hunt is having to find who the mole is after his whole team is dead, while also Kittredge at IMF is like,

we've got to get Hunt because we think Hunt is the mole. And who's Kittredge again? He's the director of the IMF. And the actor, that's not Voight. No, Voight is Jim Phelps who dies in the first mission. Oh, yeah, of course. His mission goes to Paul. He was played by Emilio Estevez.

No. Was Voight played by Emilio Estevez. No. What was played by Estevez? Estevez is just a tech guy. Okay. Man in the van. He's the Simon Pegg character. He's the man on top of an elevator for some reason.

So unlike most of the future movies where you know who the villain is from the start, this movie is like, oh, who's the mysterious mole? Who is the villain? Hunt meets Max, who's played by Vanessa? Who is the villain? Hunt meets Max, who's played by Vanessa Redgrave. She's a shady underworld broker. Sorry, Skull Face. Did we say Skull Face? Skull Face. Yeah, Max Skull Face. Sorry. Hunt meets with Skull Face,

played by Vanessa Redgrave, a shady underworld broker, and agrees on a deal to steal the knock list himself from the CIA in order to get contact with the mole. Codename Job. like from the Bible. Job. You're a Bible person? Oh, big Bible people over here.

Have you done an episode on the good book? Not yet. Saving that for lucky number 400. Yeah. When I hear Job, I think of Job Watson, the old Essendon captain. I think of Arrested Development. Yeah, this makes sense.

This makes sense. So, yeah, you are correct. I will mention that there is a Cable Guy moment in almost every movie. And this one, of course, is the CIA building where Ethan Hunt has to drop in via the ceiling to slide down slowly. Okay, not Jim Carrey. Cable guy. Cable guy, gotcha. So Brian De Palma describes it as setting a suspense hook.

So once you set the suspense hook, then you can milk it for all it's worth. So in this scene where they have to break into the CIA, the computer is protected by heat sensors, you can't make sound, you can't touch the floor, and then that means, alright, let's throw, what if a rat comes in? What if he starts to sweat? What if Jean Reno

has to sneeze? What if the guy is coming back to the computer? What if Jean Reno's knife falls out of his pocket? So they find everything they can do to go, alright, what can go wrong to make this extra intense? So there's a big chunk of the movie is sitting around with a whiteboard and just troubleshooting. Probably.

Yeah, we'll talk more about the set pieces as we go on. While filming the famous scene where Tom Cruise drops on the ceiling. Oh, wait, that was behind the scenes. Okay, I understand. When he was filming the scene, Cruise's head kept hitting the floor

when he was moving down, like I think just the weight distribution. So he got the idea apparently to put coins in his shoes for balance. I'm not quite sure

how that works. He's got a small head, doesn't he? How many coins do you have to put? No, he's got a big head. So he doesn't have a lot of coins. How many coins do you have to put? No, he's got a big head. So he doesn't have to have a lot of coins. How many coins do you think will you be rattling around

in your shoes to... What in the hell? Yeah. Coins in the shoes, that'll balance it out. Great call, Tom. Why didn't any of us think of that? Alright, let's get some coins for Mr. Cruise's shoes. Not like ankle weights or something? No, no, no. Coins. Coins in the shoes. I need

two 50 cent pieces. That'll do it. That'll do it. And I'm balanced. I want to tell you, every move I tell you one of the cool spy moves. And this one, one of my favorite ones is like when Ethan Hunt is hiding out after running away from Kittredge. He finds an apartment

and when he's going in there, he takes a bulb off the light in the hallway leading up to the apartment, breaks the light bulb and then moves it along the hallway so he'll be able to hear the crunch of anyone's feet would they approach. Because there were no cornflakes handy. Yeah, the cornflakes are much harder and I think it would be less cool if we saw a scene

where he bought some cornflakes. No, I want to see him at the shop, and then he sees the crunchy nut cornflakes, and he's like, perfect. And then he sees some bubble wrap in the produce section. And then he lines up behind an old lady who's trying to get the exact change, and he's just there, a bit bored. And then that's when he has his light bulb moment, which is him taking a light bulb.

And also when she's looking for that exact change, she goes, I'm going to use the play in my shoes. While I'm here, can I get a little change for a tent? The big finale of this movie is a showdown on a moving train. I think we all like moving trains. Love that. Love that when a tunnel is coming. Also, I love any movie where all the key players are invited to the same place.

Everyone that has a stake in the movie is like, oh, lured to the same location. So you've got Skull Face there. You've got Kittredge there. They've all been lured there, and they all don't quite know what is going on. We also learn who the mole was, and the mole jim phelps himself he just pretended to die yeah don't this is why he didn't want the original director there he's like i'm gonna make your hero the villain you are 100 right the original cast response that i'll tell you about um none of them were into it i imagine none of them liked the movie because rumor had it as well

that they initially were thinking about getting the original cast back to kill them off in Act 1, that they would be the team that gets killed off. It's sort of a cool idea. That was just a rumor. No one wanted to go to see the premiere. Only one actor accepted the invitation, and he walked out halfway through,

which is probably about when it's revealed who the mole is. And they would have gone, but he's the hero of the whole series. And you've just made him the bad guy, which is a cool move for people that aren't, I guess, in love with that. Yeah. It's a bit, yeah. It's like an even more full on Rian Johnson thing. What did he do with Star Wars?

Oh, yeah, exactly exactly the fans up in arms and like i guess people with the ghostbusters watching the ghostbusters be like they would never be women what are they doing women can't see ghosts we all know that they can only be ghosts i remember at the time with all the backlash mart Martin Dunlop did a little listicle about the reasons why it won't work to gender swap. And one of the reasons was, how are they going to do the scene where Bill Murray takes his balls out and makes everyone look at his balls?

A great question. Great question. And then Melissa McCarthy got her balls out. She made it work. I butchered Martin's bit there, but something like that. I'm sure it was incredibly funny. So this is actually similar to GoldenEye that came out the year before that the villain turns out to be a former ally jaded by the Cold War,

jaded by his job, and who he had assumed had died in Act 1. Ah, yes. Coincidence. Claire and Krieger also revealed themselves to be working for Phelps. Claire is shot by Phelps before attempting to escape the moving train via a helicopter piloted by Krieger. Hunt manages to leap onto the helicopter from the train and slap some exploding chewing gum onto the helicopter's windscreen. He yells out, red light, green light. That's good.

Even though that no one around him would have been able to hear him. Doesn't matter, it's very good. He goes, red light, and then slaps it down, green light. And then, you know, you've got Jean Reno looking at that going, and you hope he knows also what exploding chewing gum looks like, because he wasn't there when that was explained in Act 1. But I guess he might just know, or he might be like, why is he putting gum on the... Does he think that's going to obscure my vision or something?

He's discovering a tiny amount. It's a speck. I can still see what's going on. Is he saying I've got bad breath? Because I just brushed. I always brush before a mission. And then Jim Phelps also gets he's he's holding on to the um bottom of the helicopter at the time because he's trying to escape and quite graphically shows him as the helicopter crashes

sort of grinding him into the ground so that's also a moment that the original cast probably wouldn't have enjoyed yeah what a way to go real go, the hero. Real tribute to the old cast. Bit of trivia, Bing Rhames was going to be killed off in Act 3 on the train, but this was changed in the script when Bing Rhames asked David Koepp, why does the black guy always got to die? And they went, yeah. Good point. I mean, everyone's dying, but.

Yeah, interesting. Yeah, good point. That was a... Jeez, that question led to him getting, what, eight more films? Yes, he is in every one of them. So it doesn't hurt to just raise those questions. Great question. You could be giving yourself a lot more work.

Exactly. Why miss out on work? I imagine he keeps getting the jobs because he's very good and people love him. And they might have realised it's actually nice to have some continuity between films rather than killing everyone. The Marvel movies are bad for this. They kill off the villains every time and then you're like, oh, well, now you can't bring them back in interesting ways.

They're just dead and you always have them to reset, reset, reset. Take them to Gotham prison. Yeah, exactly. And wait for Gotham Prison. Yeah, exactly. And wait for him to escape. Let him break out. Yeah. We can wait for clean water solutions. Or we can engineer access to clean water.

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Where were you guys in the year 2000? I was awaiting a family trip to Sydney to view the Olympic Games. Interesting. And I was at Olympic Station. I was at Olympic Stadium hanging from a wire singing a song as a 14-year-old girl. Wow, twist. Okay. You've lived a life.old girl. Wow, twist. Okay. You've lived a life.

Beat that. No, back to mine. Well, you might have seen me there. I didn't see you there because I didn't get to go because I got chicken pox. Oh, no. The week before the Olympics. So my brother and my dad went,

and mum and I had to stay home. So I missed the Olympics. Did your mum have chicken pox too? Nah. Just me. That I miss the Olympics. Did your mum have chicken pox too? Nah. Just me. Oh, that's a sad story. Sad story, but a good mum. Speaking of Sydney,

guess where Mission Impossible 2 was mostly filmed? Yeah, this is the bad one as well, right? This is the worst. I'll spend the least amount of time on this. So don't think that every one of them is going to be equally the same length. I'm trying to think which one had the Metallica song. time on this. So don't think that every one of them is going to be equally the same length. I'm trying to think which one had the Metallica song.

That's a great question. I did write down I think this might have been the Bono one or maybe they might have done the first two The Edge and one of the other members of U2 did the first one. This might have been Limp Bizkit. Oh yeah. That feels very 2000s.

Yeah, because Fred Durst sort of sang or rapped over a version of the theme, right? Yeah, it's embarrassing. This whole movie sucks. Well, it's fun. It's the Aussie one, and it's also got... Who was in Rake? Who stars in Rake? A bit of Richard Roxburgh. Richard Roxburgh is in it. Rake? Who stars in Rake? A bit of Richard Roxburgh

Richard Roxburgh is in it Rake himself So I think this is a result of the Matrix era Where every movie had to be cool now Like we wanted a cool movie And I think I would have been 12-ish by this time And I wanted every movie to be cool as well I was thrilled to see Ethan Hunt with sunglasses on now.

It's like, what if Ethan Hunt was a mountain climber that did kung fu? What if his mission was sent to him in a little missile that had a pair of Ray-Bans in them, a little microphone? What if Ethan Hunt had a sort of wavy mullet thing now? What if John Woo directed it? Look, I said this is the only bad one. I've taken that back. This sounds amazing. It sounds I said this is the only bad one. I've taken that back. This sounds amazing.

Sounds incredible. It is a lot of fun. Like, it's very silly. And I love a light film. There's slow-mo and there's pigeons. Apparently his first cut of the movie was three and a half hours. I always find that when they release it, sort of trivia, sort of strange.

It's like, you've done a bad job if that was your first cut. No movie should be that long. I assume it was mostly slow-mo. And pigeons. Cruise's goal was to have each movie be sort of episodic, so have a different style, which sort of makes sense, but having a different director. This movie was written by Robert Towne

who was a writer on Chinatown and apparently contributed to the first Mission Impossible movie the wiki synopsis Ethan goes back in action and works with professional thief Naya Nordhoff-Hall which is played by I want to nail

this Tandyway Newton an Australian Billy Baird, who the duo go undercover to stop rogue IMF agent Sean Ambrose, probably the shittiest villain name, Ambrose. He's also Naya's former lover from stealing a deadly virus, starting a pandemic and selling the antidote to the highest bidder. Maybe this is why I didn't like watching this movie in lockdown.

Yeah, the whole idea is like if I can create a huge pandemic but also have the cure to the pandemic, then I'm a genius. I mean, isn't that also the story of Big Pharma? Interesting. Yeah, isn't that also the story Story of Big Pharma? Interesting. Yeah, isn't that also the story of Big Pharma and also Kingsman 2? I think that happened. Electric Boogaloo. Yeah, that's true.

It's not necessarily a pandemic. I like the Kingsman movies. I like them too. It's freaking romp. They are romp. And they're so silly, but they're fun. So silly. Should we stop this and just go watch a romp?

Yeah, let's go watch a romp. Let's just hang out. And the way they introduced Hitler at the end of the last one. Oh, that was weird. It was so bad. That was so strange. But I laughed so big. It was so...

I've not laughed that loud in public in a long time. I assumed they were having fun. Yeah, obviously they were having fun. Because that was so strange. Colin Firth just kicking the shit out of people. I'll watch that any day. It was basically like, let's do a Marvel character reveal, but it's Hitler. Yeah.

So funny. It was amazing. So the payday for Tom Cruise apparently was $75 million. You make good money if you're the producer. What if most of the money was spent on me? Wow. This is the only film in the series where Ethan Hunt doesn't go on the run and instead just does a mission for the IMF.

This is the only one where he's just doing a mission. He's not falsely accused sort of thing. Yeah, he's not falsely accused or having to go on the run or, yeah, shadow operative mode. How many times do you have to be falsely accused of something, prove you didn't do it, until people are just like, I reckon maybe Ethan didn't do it. Yeah.

He's the boy who didn't cry wolf. Yeah. He's working so hard for his peers to just treat him as an equal. Yeah. Oh, my God. Sometimes he's on the run because they think he is on the run. Sometimes they're pretending he was a ghost operative or whatever. So sometimes it's deliberate.

It's spy stuff. As I said, this one has a lot of Australia in it. The Outback, the Opera House, the Randwick Racecourse. It's very tacky. I find watching Australia on screen is not very filmic. Have you watched Lost?

Yeah. Because there's a lot of flashbacks are in Sydney or in Australia and the Opera House is in the background of every scene. It doesn't feel like I'm watching a show. It takes me out of it. Just to make it nice and clear that this particular scene is happening in Australia.

Oh, look at that. Opera House behind it. You've got to put Uluru or Sydney Harbour in it. Oh, it's so funny. It's got to be an outback. Yeah. Because in this movie, they did that where they, it was like cut from Sydney Harbour and to the red dust of the outback.

Yeah. As if they just. Like the hideout is in there. Yeah. They're so far away from each other. But it's the kind of thing that's not going to worry anyone else, I guess. No, no, no. But it just takes you out of it because you know it's a bit silly.

But I mean, this is a super silly movie anyway. But like with Lost, it didn't matter which character it was. No matter where they were in every scene, they were always right by the opera house. You would have hated water rats. Yeah. Because every crime was happening. They were big crimes that the water police wouldn't normally handle, murders, but they would be happening under the Sydney Harbour Bridge

or on the steps of the Opera House. It's good for tourism. And I love that bridge. Oh, my God, I love that freaking bridge. But you can't see it from every house in Sydney. So it seems like Tom Cruise wanted to be closer to Nicole. This was during the Kidman era. This was also the highest

grossing movie of 2000 being Gladiator and Castaway. Wow. So the team in this one, Luther is back with new additions. Naya Hall, as I say, by Tandyway Newton and Australian Billy Baird, who I mentioned. The cable guy moment of this one, Tom Cruise jumps off a helicopter this time into a building

and finishes with that, I call it like a starfish move. I think that's a good little bit of imagery. Yeah. As I say, this is a post-Matrix movie. It's made for 12-year-olds. He does kung fu. There's ludicrous kickflips off the ground. He is sort of a member of the A-team or Charlie's Angels now all of a sudden.

He literally has moments where he's beating up tons of bad guys and can leap off the ground, full backflip kick, and that person's defeated. And it's bizarre. Where did these skills suddenly come from? He didn't smirk, though, I hope. There's no smirking at all. I hope there's no character development.

There's very little character. He's got a love interest. Apparently, him and Claire were going to have a love thing in the first movie. They were going to make love on a train. The most romantic place to make love. That's a great euphemism as well, right? Train going into a tunnel, isn't that? That's an old school euphemism.

Indeed. Visual euphemism. That's nice. And what about when the train comes out of the tunnel? Oh, well, and then in again, and then out again, and then in again. It's a very confusing journey. Am I remembering it right that at one point he basically throws a motorbike at another motorbike? Or rides a motorbike or something?

You have beautifully timed this. So in the final showdown, him and the villain Ambrose, which is a name that would send a shiver up anyone's spine. I mean, it's the name of a different way to score golf. You couldn't get anything more pedestrian than that, could you? So they both ride their bikes at each other. Before the bikes hit, they dive off their bikes. So they collide in the air. As they're colliding in the air, they then also sort of go against physics and fly off a cliff.

Sure. Together into some sort of softer sand. So, yeah, this is classic John Woo heightened action. Tom Cruise also said he was very much inspired by Bruce Lee movies and wanted to do a bit of Bruce Lee action as well. I know the name John Woo. What's his famous film? He's done the hard... I haven't seen a ton of John Woo, but he's done movies with Chow Yun Fat, like the Hard Boiled series,

which is a lot of Chow Yun doing dual-wielding guns and shooting them. So this is classic Woo. This is classic Woo action, yeah. Hard Boiled, I believe, is the series. If anyone's yelling at their iPod right now, I apologize if I get any of the actors wrong. I'd be underestimating our listenership.

Underestimating. So this movie also has so many masks. This movie does the masks to death. This is the highest amount of masks. Ambrose wears an Ethan Hunt mask. Stamp, who's Richard Roxburgh, wears an Ethan mask. And Ethan wears both a Stamp mask and another guy's mask, Nekorovich mask.

There's so much mask wearing and so many dramatic mask uses. I have to talk about this part because it's so much mask wearing and so many dramatic mask uses i have to talk about this part okay it's because it's so ridiculous so there's this scene tom cruise is fighting richard roxburgh and we cut to the villains there so we cut away from the fight we know that they're fighting uh like down the hall from this room with where the villain ambrose is and then richard roxburgh comes in with ethan hunt and his his he's got Ethan Hunt and his mouth is taped up. So you're like, oh, Ethan Hunt can't talk. And Richard Roxburgh's got him.

You're like, how's Ethan Hunt going to get out of this one? And Ambrose starts kicking Ethan Hunt. He's like, yeah, I've got you now. Well done. Well done, Richard Roxburgh. And then he shoots Ethan Hunt. And you're like, whoa, Ethan Hunt's dead. Like, this is crazy.

But then suddenly Ambrose is like, wait a second. And he pulls back to realize that Hunt is actually Richard Roxburgh under me. He just killed someone in cold blood. Yeah. Taped and bound. So somehow off screen this means that Ethan was able to defeat Richard Roxburgh and then had two masks available, one of Richard Roxburgh's face and one of his own face. Which we find out in one of the movies take a long time to 3D print.

Yeah. And was able to make that, I don't know where he puts these masks. He doesn't look like he has a big backpack or anything like that. And how quickly you're able to also swap clothes. What year was it? 2000. Probably cargo shorts. And also swap clothes.

And it also means anyone you've ever swapped faces with, you're just very lucky that they have similar frames and builds to you as well. Some of the movies, they have extra padding that they've put on when they have a different frame, but most of the time it's just pure luck that they're able to go, oh, we happen to be the exact same height. We're nailing it. Nobody's going to be all that sus.

I'm starting to wonder if Jim Carrey was a big influence for these films. He got the cable guy, got the mask. Oh, this is true. What else have we got here? That's an excellent point. Liar, liar. Yeah, got the cable guy, we've got the mask. Oh, this is true. What else have we got here? That's an excellent point. Liar, liar. Yeah, they're all liar, liar. They're all liar, liars.

That's a good point. That's an excellent point. Yeah, very good. Truman Show is also a film. Yeah, they're filming it like in the Truman Show. Just to highlight some of the stunts as well and how dumb Tom Cruise is, there's a scene where they wanted this shot where uh

the villain uh has a knife going towards tom cruise's eye that that ethan hunt stops at the last moment and rather than like using cgi or camera trickery they instead tom cruise was like oh let's put a cable attached to that to that knife and then you can you can point you can stab it at me as hard as you want, and the camera and the cable will just stop it from going into my eye, so we can get this shot where it looks like this knife is only a few centimeters away from my eye, because it actually was. Because one of his things, John Woo, is hyper-realism, isn't it? I think it's hyper-violent. Hyper-violent.

But it's all very believable stuff, is what I mean. It's real in terms of, yes, this is pretty gritty. This is really happening. This is grounded. Yes, indeed. That spike, I could believe that spike really did that. A little bit of trivia, the villain Ambrose, played by Doug Ray Scott, was going to be... Doug Ray.

Doug Ray. It's his first name, Doug Ray. Oh, my God, that is a great name. You've taken Doug and already fantastic name. I've always wondered what Doug was short for. Doug Ray. He was going to be Wolverine, but lost the role because he was busy with this.

Oh, wow. He had an injury and filming went over time. That's a big sliding doors moment. Doug Ray. Yes, indeed. He had an injury and filming went over time. That's a big sliding doors moment. Doug Ray. Yes, indeed. He could have been Wolverine, but instead he went on to a glittering career

in films such as Taken 3 and Death Race, colon, Inferno. So he also, he's had a big career. He's been in a lot of things. He's fine. But he's not Wolverine.

I'd say he's probably, to me, if I could pick one of those careers, I'd take his. Over Hugh Jackman. He's fine. But he's not Wolverine. I'd say he's probably to me, if I could pick one of those careers, I'd take his. Over Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman, he's so recognisable and well known, right? This guy, he could get around still. This is true. And just be

making movies, doing what he loves. That's why I'm never going to be a superstar because I'm choosing not to be. Yeah, I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it. Not for me. If you're a Hollywood producer listening to this and you're like, I think I might give Marcel a movie, don't worry about it.

Don't do it. Unless it's a bit part or a mask part. Wacky waiter, I'll do. Yeah. I'm happy to do wacky waiter. Yeah, you'd be great at wacky waiter. I would do like average looking funny friend. Oh, yeah.

I could do that. Like I'm the friend of an incredibly beautiful woman. That is easily the best role anyway, I reckon. It's always the best role. What about quirky concierge at a hotel? You? You. Me?

Yeah. Do you think you could do quirky? A female concierge? Oh, we'd call it lady concierge. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, I could do that. Yeah. Concierge, yes.

I'm wearing a blazer. I've got the shoulders for a blazer, so yes, absolutely. Yeah, no, I could do that. Concierge, yes. I'm wearing a blazer. I've got the shoulders for a blazer, so yes, absolutely. Yeah, okay, I could do that. Yeah. I don't have that role. Oh, okay, cool. If it comes across my desk. She'll take it.

Let me know. Let me know. But I think, because I could see you as a concierge very much so. Thank you. So I think maybe like if I'm the quirky concierge, you could be my supervisor or something. Yeah. Or a bellboy. Oh, you in a little hat? Yeah, a little bellboy. Oh, you would have a little hat?

Yeah, a little hat. You would look so cute in a little hat. Thank you. You could have a little monkey sidekick. Name myself. I haven't been to many hotels, but is that a normal thing? Monkey sidekick. I guess it depends on the country and how quirky the filmmaker is.

At least a four star, five star. What is this? A Wes Anderson film? See, I'm just trying to work it back into my other podcast, Primates, I suppose. I didn't realize I was doing that until it was too late. It was just like a backdoor episode of Primates. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

Yeah, welcome. Welcome to another episode. Let's jump on. What is the name of this show? Jump On With It? Jump On With It. Jump On With It. Please, Marcel,? Jump on with it. Jump on with it. Please, Marcel, do jump on with it.

Jump on it. Mission Impossible 3, the year 2006. Oh, a bit of a gap. We've jumped a little while. So 2006, that was my last year of high school, I believe. What were you guys doing in 2006? I was completing my 150th year of my arts degree

and doing a bloody good job of it. Well done. Congratulations. I was in year 10 and I was on the year 10 ski camp, which also coincided with my 16th birthday. So my parents let me go, probably so they didn't have to give me a present.

And I hated skiing. And a snowboarder hit me as he fell down and slid down the mountain as I skied across. He hit me. We went flying. My skis went flying. And then I went and had a hot chocolate. Oh, that sounds great.

The hot chocolate was really lovely. What is it? Apres skiing or something? Someone told us. I've never really been skiing before, but there's some word that ski people use for drinking after skiing. Are you allowed to say ski people if you're not a ski person? Oh, good point.

Very good person. Are you allowed to say ski people? You know, edit point. That's gracious. Edit point. Edit point here. 2006 was the first year I went overseas. Interesting. Oh, man. I loved going overseas.

Want to do it again. Imagine going overseas. So why the long gap? The studio was hoping for a summer to possible holiday season 2002 release. So there was the idea that let's keep this going. But Cruise had other things on, and he also didn't want people to get burned out by the franchise. And didn't it get bad reviews?

But it made so much money, I guess. I think it went very well. I mean, if they wanted to make another one, it must have done pretty well. I didn't look quite about the critical reception, but I'm sure if you look up the Rotten Tomatoes score, it probably must be the lowest one. But like you said, it was the biggest grossing film.

The second one was still the biggest of the year. It's done fine. And you know in Hollywood, we go by saying, money talks, bullshit walks. Yeah, and also the movie Money Talks as well. Yeah, well that's what that's referencing. If this movie isn't on par with Money Talks with Chris Tucker, then I don't want to hear about it.

The release date was then moved to summer 2005 because of War of the Worlds coming out. Oh, that movie I hated. Oh, you didn't like that movie? I remember it, yeah. I just remember being like, and I like Tom Cruise, but I don't know. Is it good? I haven't seen it Cruise, but I don't know. Is it good?

I haven't seen it since, but I went to the cinemas and I remember just hating it the whole time. I encourage a rewatch. I think a lot of people, it was left with a sour taste in their mouth because the ending is a little bit too romanticized and idyllic. But like the rest of the movie, it's pure Spielberg. It's a thrill ride. Is it a romp?, it's pure Spielberg. It's a thrill ride. Is it a romp? I love rompy Spielberg. I don't know if I'd call it a romp because it's pretty dark.

It's probably too dark to be a romp. I feel like a romp requires a little bit of lightness and not feeling like these characters could die at any moment. And that it doesn't really matter when they do. Yeah. People die in romps, but you're not mourning them. Yeah, like in The Mummy when that scarab goes into that guy's head or whatever. You're not...

Yeah, that's funny. A little bit cartoony. Yeah. He runs into a wall and you're like, yeah, well, I can't remember that guy's name. Who else we got? What else we doing? I'm talking out loud in the cinema. All right.

Next. That was good. What else? Next. Do jump on it. This is a new era. I think it's interesting because these movies have been made for such a long time. This is post 9-11.

Mission Impossible. Oh, that's a good point. Everything changed when those two towers came down. So, yeah, this would be very different. This is post Bourne. This is the same year as Casino Royale. Kanye is on the soundtrack. Kanye?

I didn't realize he'd been around. Really? Early Kanye. He's been realize he'd been around. Really? Early Kanye. He's been around for 15 plus years. He's got an illustrious career. Wow. And I hope I've got that right. I mean, he could have been on the next one, but I'm pretty sure he was on this one.

Potential versions that were floated around in those six years. David Fincher wanted to do an R-rated version set in Africa around organ trafficking, which doesn't feel very Mission Impossible. Yeah, and if you're going to get R-rated, I'm like, oh, yeah, all right. What are we going to do? Tits and bits. Nude Mission Impossible? Oh, we're going to see guts and butts.

Give me tits and bits any day. Guts and butts. I've never heard that before. Well, I think it's never been said any day Guts and butts I've never heard that before Well I think it's never been said before Guts and butts I want that like in the TV guide When you're looking to see if anything lewd is on that night Yeah G and B

You're like alright There was a version also set around the idea Of like private military in Africa Kenneth Branagh Was going to be the villain at one point. Bright villain. Frank Darabont of the Shawshank Redemption wrote a version. There was also a prequel version that was thrown around

with Emilio coming back. Oh. I don't know why there'd be any interest of like, oh, no, set before the first movie. But who cares? I thought that would be a strange move to be like, let's get Emilio back in here for some reason.

Had Mighty Ducks 3 just really taken off? It really... Maybe he was just like whispering in people's ears, what if we brought Emilio back? It was just him trying to get that in people's head. One version had attacks on iconic landmarks around the world. And I think that one was like, oh, wait a second. Does this?

A tax, not a tax, which is what I heard. Very financially minded. Ethan, we've got to stop these tax. I heard tax also. Thank you so much for clarifying. J.J. Abrams was brought on as the new director as a result of Tom Cruise enjoying the TV show Alias. Are you guys fans?

I didn't see a lot, but it feels like Alias was probably inspired a bit by Mission Impossible. So this is effectively a bit of a reboot. This is a bit like what Fast and the Furious did after Tokyo Drift. Like, let's do a bit of a reset. Let's get this back on track. Ethan has lost his neo-powers. There's no explanation. He doesn't, like, hit his head and go,

oh, I forgot how to backflip. Like, it's just never mentioned. His main superpower, I think some people still see him as, like, a superhero of sorts. I'd say his superhero power is luck and tenacity. Like, he's just like, I'm going to go for it. And he never dies. Whatever he does comes off in the end.

He never dies, but also some of the later films are more injuring him. But it's really to that John McClane level of how is he surviving this scene. Because usually it's like, oh, I just made it. Rather than I got shot 17 times and I'm okay. So, wiki synopsis of this

one. Ethan is engaged to Julia Mead, played by Michelle Monaghan, who is unaware of his true job. He assembles a team to face the elusive arms and information broker Owen Davian. Davian. I think this one is the one that starts like

at a house party. So we see a bit of his private life there. And he's playing just average guy. So yeah, the old crew would have been hating that. They would have been hating it. We don't want to see anything at your house. I don't want to see him passing the dip. Philip Seymour Hoffman is the villain, RIP.

Oh, great villain. Great villain. He intends to sell a mysterious, dangerous object known as the rabbit's foot. Ooh. Does that sound dangerous enough? Rabbits are cute. Rabbits are cute. Rabbits are cute.

Yeah, and that's a symbol of luck, which you'd think that Ethan Hawke would love. Ethan Hawke loves luck. I don't know why that's relevant here, but. So there was a choice to give Ethan more emotional stakes so this movie before the house party scene it opens with a flash forward of later in the movie we see his wife is tied up

gun to her head Philip Seymour Hoffman's character has the gun to her head and is giving Ethan a countdown tell me where the rabbit's foot is or she's going to die. And we hear a gunshot and then we cut to earlier. You're probably wondering, how do we get here? Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Let's slow down. Do a rewind. Record scratch. Yeah. Love that move. Six months earlier. So, yeah, he is one of the best villains of the series. And I like the idea after how silly the second one was.

Like, opening a movie like that is like your wife is getting shot in the head. It's like, all right, this isn't your grandpa's Mission Impossible movie. All right, this is real. And it's sort of growing up with the kids who started watching it, I guess, in the 90s as well. The new team. At one point, Ricky Gervais was cast as the film as an ally to Ethan Hunt. He was going to be the man in the chair, but then that role went to Simon Pegg.

I love Simon Pegg. He's one of the best new characters in this series and he continues in the rest of it. I would hate to live in the universe where Ricky Gervais got cast in this role. I think that would be the worst shit. Yeah, it wouldn't have been good. I think he...

Because in this movie, Benji is just a small character. He comes in like twice as just like the guy on the other end of the phone. Man in the van. Man in the van. But I don't think... I reckon Gervais wouldn't have then been moved into the team. I don't think that would have happened. He would have insisted on some weird things

and they would have said, oh, actually. He's just roasting everyone on the team. He's like, can you not be mean to us? The big stunt is this fulcrum swing in Beijing. He does this huge swing off one building to another. I know what a fulcrum swim is, but just in case any listeners don't, do you want to break it down for them?

I wrote down fulcrum because this is what they told me in the movie, but it's essentially a pendulum-type swing of let's go from one building and I can swing on to the next, which is further away,

and release the cable at the last minute and I'll be able to jump off to the next thing. Yeah. Yeah. Spider-Man style. Yeah.

Basically my understanding as well. Yeah. And you have that written down to prove that you had that. Yeah. Yeah. I thought, yeah, the exact same wording.

Yeah. Right. So this is also the beginning of, of more of those layered action sequences. So he like breaks into this building, but then his escape route is parachuting out of that building. And then that falls into a car chase. And then like, So he breaks into this building, but then his escape route is parachuting out of that building. And then that falls into a car chase.

And then there's just that beautiful level of, but this happens, and then this happens. And what if this happens? And it turns out later on that a lot of these movies continue to just start with just the set pieces being worked out before the script is. So they know, oh, what if we had this sequence? What if we had that sequence? And then they fill in the story later yeah number two it started with the two motorbikes crashing into each other and they worked out from there okay let's work our way backwards how do we get to this point so maybe we have a scene set in a motorcycle shop. He's buying a motorcycle. They're going to be test riding them or something. That's good. I want to note that down. And the guy says, you should never run this into a different motorcycle, whatever you

do. Yeah, Chekhov's morning. Chekhov's morning. Chekhov's motorcycle. Every time a motorcycle's introduced in a movie, you know it's going to explode. I've only recently learned what Chekhov's gun is, and now I am referencing it too much. Yeah, it's a great little literary reference there. I'm like, oh, here we go, Chekhov's book.

Every day. That book's going to get read. Someone's going to read that book. If a book is introduced in Act 1, it's going to be read by Act 3. The cable guy moment. I guess there's two in this one. He climbs onto the wall of the Vatican And then cables off

When he gets on top of the wall He whispers to himself Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall Oh that's right For no reason to nobody Oh that's right I remember that being very funny as well That whole sequence was very funny

That sucks It's a real cringy moment And like it's so out of character for him as well It's in reference to nothing. I could see James Bond saying that, you know. Maybe early James Bond. Who am I? Upty-dupty?

Sitting on a wall? I didn't realize how corny James Bond was until I watched the most recent one. And like the Daniel Craig's last one, I guess. I don't know if it is or not, whatever. But he's like just so many of the catchphrases. He was even saying like shaken, not stirred. And someone explodes and there was a clock or something. He's like, I guess it was time to explode.

Oh, that's terrible. They were all like that though. But it happens with the James Bond movies. I think Casino Royale is his best one. And then by the time it comes where he's done five of them, it's like, we need to then pull it back again. They get too, I don't know, cocky or something. Yeah.

This movie explains the voice of the mask tech for the first time, which is fun. We see a mask be moulded. We see the voice sample being coded. So there's this cool scene where Tom Cruise has the mask of Davian, of Philip Seymour Hoffman's character, and has him pinned down in this bathroom where his henchmen are outside and he needs Davian to read this sort of series of phrases

in order to encode his voice properly. So it adds more tension to the idea of even stealing someone's voice and identity rather than being able to do it just off camera with no explanation. Like now, what if we made that a challenge to do? Oh, that's cool. Which is a lot of fun. Yeah, it's interesting. And how did he get Philip Seymour Hoffman to say the phrase?

He just has a gun to his head. Right. And I think David... That'll do it. He's just sort of doing it because I don't think he's, like, thinking too many steps ahead of, like, oh, he's going to steal my voice and therefore be able to... Yeah, it'd be a weird thing for somebody to hold a gun to your head

and be like, read this! I'd be very confused. Happy birthday to you, Jess. You are one of my closest friends. If I was Ethan Hawke, I would have used reverse psychology. Bet you can't read this. Yeah, yeah, Jess. You are one of my closest friends. If I was Ethan Hawke, I would have used reverse psychology. Bet you can't read this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you can't say this three times fast.

I can. I bet you can't. I mean, I've been saying it heaps of times when you weren't around, but anyway. Yeah, go on. You try. My mate said that your mates didn't like him. As usual, Tom Cruise did the vast majority of his own stunts. Most of them were done without major injury.

However, he cracked a couple of ribs once he turned his upper torso too quickly. Has that ever happened to you? Yeah. At work. Yeah. All the time. When someone wants your attention and you just swing yourself around immediately. That's got to be really fast.

I don't think I can move fast enough to break my own ribs. Try it. Nah. I mean, it hurt. You move very quickly, though, I've got to say. I've never seen you move that fast. Was it that he moved too fast or that he moved too early and something hit the ribs? Oh, okay.

That makes more sense. Yeah. Well, as with a lot of things on the internet, they don't always give you much information. I'm going to guess something hit the roots. Do your own research. You're listening to a podcast. Yeah, my bad. I want to tell you about his new spy power in this movie.

Like, each movie he sort of gets a new spy power. In this one, he can read lips now. Oh, that's cool. Maybe this is what happens. He loses one, gains one. Oh, interesting. So he lost Kung Fu, but he gained lip reading. Yeah, like some video games, if you want to upgrade a power,

you have to take a point out of a different power. He's only got a certain amount of room in his brain. Yeah. Yeah. So he reveals this power in a creepy way of eavesdropping on a conversation on his wife and her friends at their engagement party. He's over on one side helping with a drink,

and they're having a conversation across the party in the kitchen and they can't remember the name of this lake and he calls out, oh, Lake Winaka. And then her friends are like, how did he possibly do that? It's not how lip reading works either. How does it work? Like you read their lips. You can't, yeah.

You do that with so much confidence it's not like you can't read lips from across a party that is bullshit what about in that Seinfeld episode I wanna sweep with you I wanna sleep that would have ruined the whole

premise of the bit she correctly saw that he was saying, I want to sweep with you. They were saying sweep. But they saw him sleep with you. It's a fun little moment. Fun recalling that correctly.

Different shape with the mouth. Before I move on to the next film, I should tell you as well, there's this fun little thing about the publicity of this particular film. Paramount rigged 4,500 randomly selected Los Angeles Times vending boxes with digital audio players that would play the theme song when the door was opened

The audio players did not always stay concealed however and in many cases came loose and fell on the stack of newspapers in plain view. With the result that they were widely mistaken for bombs Police bomb squads detonated a number of the vending boxes the result that they were widely mistaken for bombs. Oh, no. Yes.

Police bomb squads detonated a number of the vending boxes and even temporarily shut down a veterans hospital in response to the apparent threat. Oh, no. Despite these problems, Paramount and the Los Angeles Times opted to leave the audio players in the boxes until two days after the movie's opening. Well, this is in the 2000s, right? Post 9-11 world, people stop being so stressed about the threat of attacks

or bombs or whatever. I like the idea of just sort of blue-tacking these boxes in and being like, oh, that's fine. A little bit of sticky tape. As long as you can't see them. Yeah, make sure they're hidden, but not too hidden. This will be the last film that Tom Cruise and Paula Wagner collaborated on. This was around the time, apparently, Redstone was disgusted by Cruise's recent antics,

particularly his appearance on the Oprah Winfrey show. Oh, my God. Following that, Cruise and his partner, Wagner, resurrected the United Artists Company, which had been closed a few years previously. But then, of course, Cruise goes on to produce the rest of the film. So this was in that sort of era when people were a little bit cringy on Cruise. Cringy on Cruise!

I think everyone's sort of gone, he's a bit different, but we love him anyway. I think there was sort of two schools of like, this guy is a bit wacky now, or a bit silly, and then they're like, oh, but hold on. Is he lovesick or is he just sick? Yeah.

What is it? Yeah. But I think, wasn't it like when he was in, what was the, Tropic Thunder? And they're like, oh, look at him. He can have fun. He's funny now. I think he's someone as well, and this is for the Tom Cruise episode, that like his public persona after that had to be like more manicured and curated of like, hey, someone would have talked to,

I mean, he would have had a whole team talk to him and say, this is how you're being perceived. If you want to keep making movies, let's sort of change how you're publicly presenting yourself, I think. And let Katie Holmes out of the dungeon. No comment. Allegedly. Jess alleged that before.

Off mic. That's not something I thought. Jess looks stunned at being called out. I was like, did I say that? I'm sorry, that was one of your secret memories. You know how it feels when Marcel reveals your secret memories. I'm sorry. Yeah, we your secret memories. I'm sorry. Yeah, we should all apologize.

I'm sorry. Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol. Ah, yes. 2011. We're in a post-Avengers world and it feels like it. So this is the same year that Fast Five came out. It sort of makes me wonder if both production companies are peaking in each other's test screenings because they're well and truly romps now.

So J.J. Abrams went darker with number three. It felt more like an alias episode, but now new director Brad Bird comes in, who you know from The Incredibles and Ratatouille and various Pixar projects, and does a bit of live action. So JJ was too busy with his movie Super 8 to direct this one. So they bring in Brad Bird

who just crushes it. A little bit of trivia. Tom Cruise, sorry, Ethan Hunt in character says light the fuse before the opening credits so then the fuse that actually is lit through the opening credit sequence is actually a fuse, which is a little bit of fun. The iconic fuse bit. And once again, we get that sort of,

I find this very strange with the Mission Impossible movies, but I sort of like the novelty of it. We see in the opening sequence shots from the rest of the movie, like it is a TV series. So you are seeing, oh, that's bits of the movie that are coming up later. But it also makes you go, I'm excited. I'm thrilled. I can't wait to see that bit.

That's got to be cool. Spoilers. Yeah, I think they're edited in just a way that make you go, I can't wait for that bit rather than why are they showing me the rest of the movie already. Is this the one where the lucky has to climb up a wall in a sandstorm? You are totally right. I can't believe I'm remembering.

I really thought they were all blurred together. But if you didn't go one by one, then I probably wouldn't have remembered it. I should have just done them simultaneously. You're right. I had that idea. You should have done it like I watched them. Mushed together. Maybe in the editing can you just have me just talking over myself the entire time.

Yeah, I think that would be nice. Rather than me talking over you, which is what's actually happening. So this was written by former Alias writers, Josh Applebaum and Andrzej Nemec. And Christopher McQuarrie, who's a regular Cruise collaborator, he's director of Jack Reacher and writer of Edge of Tomorrow, came in for rewrites. He does his total script doctor style. I listen to interviews with him and he's one of those guys

who can come in and go, this doesn't work, this doesn't work, what about this? Let's change this character's backstory to make it work with the rest of the movie. And in a movie where people are signing on without even seeing a script and there's just set pieces being laid out before there's a story, you need someone that sort of knows narrative to come in and be like, all right, I can make this work.

Is there a script doctor on the plane? This guy has Act 3 problems. All right, so the synopsis of this one Ethan and the entire IMF are blamed for the bombing of the Kremlin while investigating an individual known only as Cobalt See Cobalt's better than Max Cobalt's good

and it's better than Ambrose as well He and three other agents are left to stop him from starting a global nuclear war. So, pretty big deal. So, this guy, Cobalt, his name is Kurt Hendricks. That's his actual character name. He's played by Michael... Oh, shit.

I never learned how to say this name. NYQVIST. You want to have a go at this? Oh, N-Y-Q. Ninkvist? Ninkvist, maybe. Is the Q a hard K sound? Maybe.

I guess so. How else could a Q be said? Qua. Qua. Or silently. That's true. It could be skipped over altogether. Nyquist.

Nyvist, maybe. He's the guy who's the hero, one of the characters in the Girl with the Dragon tattoo series. So this follows that sort of James Bond tradition where someone who's in a good European movie gets plucked out and can play a villain in an upcoming action film, which is always good fun. So he wants nuclear weapons to sort of reset the world.

I feel like a lot of the Mission Impossible villains pretty much from this movie on have like a let's blow up the world and sort of reset the world. I feel like a lot of the Mission Impossible villains pretty much from this movie on have like a let's blow up the world and we'll reset it and that will be sort of a peace in our time sort of motivation. That's pretty much the blanket idea that like the world's bad and I'm going to be the one to blow it up. Noah's Ark sort of thing. Yeah.

And we need to have a big explosion in order to reset the world. Now, it's been a while since I heard the story. Is that what happens in the Noah's Ark story? God goes, let's blow it up. Nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons. God steals the nuclear codes and gives them to Noah. Yeah.

Yeah. And he has to put a team together. That's two of every animal. Two of every animal. It's his crime fighting team. I just thought of a great screenplay idea. A bit of a good thing. Copyright. Yeah, no, that saved it bit of a dick Copyright Yeah no that's

That's saved it You've done it I think that's legally binding Yep Before anyone else If anyone else is out there Doing Noah's Ark Mission Impossible movie

I've got you Time stamped So the idea here Is to make this more of a team movie So you've got Simon Pegg On the away missions now He's doing a bit of comic relief and also a bit of tension because he's sort of like playing the role of like,

you know, still figuring it out. He just got his agent license or something. He just got his agent license. So he's not an idiot, though. Like he's not just like, oh, I'm dropping stuff all the time. But like he's still imperfect and he wants to make Ethan proud. You know, he's sort of the apprentice role. Because it's revealed that Ethan's his dad, isn't it?

What a twist. What's the age difference? Jeremy Renner is brought in. He plays a character called Analyst, Brant. So Brant was maybe considered to be a future hunt, like pass the torch to him in future movies. I don't think he's young enough to have many more movies in him. Didn't they try that with Renner on the Bourne movies?

Yeah, that's a good point. I guess Renner was just like, hey, this guy looks like he could hold a torch, I suppose. Pass him the torch. It turns out he can't. He cannot. That Bourne movie was no good. Other actors considered were Tom Hardy and Anthony Mackie.

Anthony Mackie, also an Avenger. Who's Anthony Mackie? He is Falcon. Ah, yeah. He's... Also Captain America now, I should say. Harden, my friend. He's in Endgame when Cap's there all by himself.

And then he hears Sam. And Sam says, on your left. Oh, it's a beautiful moment. I didn't know you were a big Avengers person. Sometimes I watch that scene on YouTube just to have a cry. Yeah, it's a beautiful moment. Oh, my God. I love it so much.

I was swept up in the cinema. I was swept up. Loved it. I was like, this is a thrill. Oh, love it. Love the Avengers. Am I thinking of the right guy who's also in that Seth Rogen Christmas movie? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I like that guy. He's great. What's that called? The Night Before or something. Yeah. Started that as one of my many Christmas traditions, watching that each year. Is it worth it?

I like it, but I'm very sentimental around Christmas. He loves Christmas. Do you like It's a Wonderful Life? I've never seen it. Oh, it's a delight. Worth a look? All my money is in Bill's house and Fred's house. Uncle Jimmy.

What are you doing with my money in your house, Fred? Yeah, it's good stuff. Paula Patton is brought in. She's Agent Jane Carter. She also has demons like Agent Brandt does as a fellow Agent Hannaway. Sawyer from Lost. Oh, Sawyer.

Agent Carter, you said. You were saying they were ripping off Marvel a bit. Yeah, she is Agent Carter. That is 100% correct. I feel like Carter is one of the most overused last names in movie shows as well. Like Rush Hour, he's a Carter as well. Luther is back, but he is only a cameo at the end of the movie. He just sort of rocks out to be like, what just happened?

Oh, yeah, just to make sure he keeps his run. Yeah, just to be there. I don't know the explanation for why. I think maybe just creatively they were like, oh, if Luthor's here, it's not going to be as tricky for them to figure things out or whatever. I think this one, Brad Bird wanted to go, I want to do a Mission Impossible movie

where all the gadgets and stuff mess up, so not everything's going to go to plan pretty much the whole time, to always have that challenge. So yeah, Jeremy Renner signed on without seeing a script. There's less masks in this one, which is delightful to see. So there's more performances. Once again, Tom Cruise just happens to look

like the Russian general that he's impersonating to get into the Kremlin. So he just puts on a false nose and like a false chin sort of thing. And Benji, who's accompanying him, has no disguise at all for some reason. He just has the uniform. That's all you need. And Benji says, I wish we had masks. And Hunt offers no explanation for why they're not wearing masks.

It feels like maybe there was an explanation, but they decided to just, oh, we're not going to mention why we're not wearing these masks that are always perfect and always convince everyone. I'm just going to wear this false nose because I've nailed this. I've just looked up why Luther wasn't in Ghost Protocol. Okay, I thought you were just checking your instagram i am a rude arsehole for sure but i was also doing that says in an interview with movie

web rames implied that due to budget cuts he had a smaller role in the film really i may be doing something very small in mission impossible ghost protocol but I'll just say that the budget changed dramatically, and I'll leave it at that. Interesting. Is that all? I think he's saying he got cut out. Is that implying that then after he got cut down, the budget seemed to get bigger again, or is that just him saying they gave him a huge pay cut?

There is a lot that, like, signs that they were pretty conservative with this movie, because, like, even though the film series really takes off from here in terms of like the DNA of what makes a mission impossible movie, the third movie I think did okay, but they were still like, we want this to be a short thing. So they weren't throwing a ton of movie at it.

I said, I suspect then they were like, here's how much we can pay you being rames. And he went, well, that's good enough for me with the end credit scene. I can do one scene for that money. New Spy Power

from Ethan Hunt. He is now an excellent drawer. So in a scene where he's in the back seat of a car with Jeremy Renner and the new director of IMF, he's seen the villain. He's seen Cobalt when he was at the

Kremlin. So as he's drawing on his hand with just a big pen, he sort of says, oh, this guy's got brown hair and, you know, this color eyes, and then just holds up his hand to Jeremy Renner's character. And Jeremy Renner goes, it's a crude drawing, but that might be Kurt Hendricks. So Ethan Hunt has the ability to just quickly, and it's like immediately just quickly sketched it in a matter of seconds.

And Renner's got the ability to see a photo in a crude picture. Yeah. And he knows all the Hendrixes out there. He knows all the potential villains. Oh, this goes on. But I love as well that he also sort of negs him a little bit. He goes, crew drawing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Could have been better if it was on paper. But you've nailed it. Crew drawing, but I know exactly who that is. I like the fact as well that he's got one pen and he's just like drawing it out. And then he turns it around and it's in colour. All these different guys with the brown hair and green eyes. Yeah, and just watercolours as well. Yeah, it's beautiful.

This is a fun little Easter egg. So we all know that the message will self-destruct in five seconds thing. In this time, the director is giving him the mission in the back of the card

and says, hey, we're going to have to initiate ghost protocol because they think that you destroyed the Kremlin so we can't really put you on this mission. But if you were to beat me up and run away,

then you could sort of do this mission as a ghost. And at that time, suddenly the director gets shot and the car gets run into, and thus the message truly did self-destruct in five seconds from receiving the mission. Wow. So he himself sort of destructed. Whoa. Which is a bit of fun.

Is the shadow in this one, Alec Baldwin? Alec Baldwin's in the next one. The next one, right. He's not playing the shadow, but... Oh, okay. Not the same universe. I wish it was. I think the shadow would be amazing to pop up in anything.

But that's just me. So this is a real rollercoaster movie. The action sequences sort of keep coming and coming. So this is the one where he climbs the Burj Khalifa. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Wiz Khalifa. Oh, sorry. The Wiz Khalifa.

He climbs that musician, I want to say. I'm hip. I'm with it. It's a very topical reference too. And like this scene is amazing. Like this encapsulates later Mission Impossible movies where you've got a million things going on, a million things going wrong.

The idea being, oh shit, you're going to have to climb outside of the building. We didn't plan for that. Meanwhile, the assassin is meeting the broker on this floor, but we're going to pretend to be meeting them on the floor underneath. So we're going to be listening into that one. Oh, great scene. Jeremy Renner is going to wear a contact lens that can photograph these nuclear codes, but

also send those nuclear codes to a printer inside this briefcase that's going to print out the nuclear codes upstairs to the other meeting going on. And we're hoping that they haven't met this person before because there's no mask right in this one. Yeah, there's no mask. They're just fully bluffing it. The mask machine breaks at the last minute. So everything's going wrong.

And then there's a dust storm on the horizon. Then there's a chase sequence after that. It's all amazingly orchestrated. Is there a red light, green light callback with the suction cups thing? Is that referencing itself? I believe it's blue is blue and red is dead. Oh, that's right. So as he's climbing up the building with these gloves, these magic gloves,

blue is glue, red is dead. Oh, that's right. So as he's climbing up the building with these gloves, these magic gloves, yeah, blue is glue, red is dead. Red is dead. And, of course, one of the gloves fails and he has to start doing it with one hand. Red is dead. Is that a callback to Pulp Fiction? Oh, that's red. Zed's dead.

That was only for the people really paying attention. You know when, like, some IMDb trivia is just so shit, you're like, that's not a thing. Well, they'd go, Ving Rhames was also in the Pulp Fiction movie series where someone said Zed's dead, and this one movie they say Red's dead. And Five found that interesting.

Out of 72. How do I delete this information from the internet? Now I can't lip read anymore. I've got too many bullshit facts in my head. And of course, like beautiful ticking clock stuff going on. The cable guy moment is Tom Cruise now running down the building. Renner is the one that does the starfish or the jump and hang in this one. He does it while wearing like a magnet type suit.

The attempted passing of the torch. Passing of the torch. I'm like, oh, well, if he can starfish, then anyone can starfish. Is that the idea? Yes. You can sense me upping the pace as I'm like, all right, this is what you ought to do

as we get closer to the end of a Mission Impossible series. There's still multiple films left. A little fun continuity Easter egg. Ethan goes to meet another arms dealer, but given the same hood on his head, so he doesn't know where he's going, as he does in the first movie when he meets Max, the arms dealer.

Like physically the same hood? It's the same hood. It has distinct patches and stuff on it. Maybe all the arms dealers have a hood guy that they get their hoods from. Yeah, right. This one's a secondhand one. It's got patches on it. We found this hood.

The offer went out to Vanessa Redgrave to reprise her role of Skull Face slash Max. According to the costume designer, Michael Kaplan, he never designed any costumes for her because she said no immediately. Right. Yeah, which is pretty clear language, I think. I think that's nice and clear, actually, yeah. At the end, there's a big showdown in this parking garage in India, which is amazing. And everything's like, every movie, everything's come down to the last second. Is that the parking garage where, garage where it's mechanical and stuff?

It's mechanical. All the cars are being moved around. Cruise has to stop this nuclear weapon. So he gets into a car and drives off the ramp and just goes down and hits the ground. Luckily, airbags are incredible and he's able to survive. Wow. He's very lucky. There's also a plot line throughout here that

Jeremy Renner's character was on protection for Ethan Hunt's wife and he's wrestling with this demon that Ethan Hunt's wife is dead on his watch. But then at the end of the movie,

we learn that that was all a trick to disappear Ethan Hunt's wife and make sure she was protected and so he could get into this Russian prison as well. So it's probably more complicated than it is. Also, as a result, learning that it was Chris McQuarrie that came in and rewrote his character, so it is a little bit convoluted it's like oh actually his wife's alive and everything's fine because he additionally

they were going to be like yeah Ethan Hunt's wife's dead and Christopher McQuarrie went like then why is he like still interested in like doing anything like he doesn't have his emotional heartbeat anymore if like oh yeah Ethan Hunt's wife's dead. That's it. Off screen, the wife that he fought for in Mission Impossible 3 is just dead now. So I needed a screenwriter

to come in and be like, but what if she was still alive? Oh, okay. Is that an option? And at the end we see Michelle Monaghan in a brief sequence, in the Lothar sequence, and we can see Ethan Hunt sort of watching her at a distance, sort of keeping a protective eye. Reading her lips.

Reading her lips. Or trying to, but failing. She's actually got her back to him, but he's still reading her lips. He's that good. I still want to beat Michelle Brazier's time, so let's crack on. Mission Impossible, Rogue Nation. Okay, the synopsis of this one. Hunt is tracking down the Syndicate,

who gets mentioned at the end of this movie. He gets his mission at the end of Ghost Protocol, introducing this idea of this rogue organisation called the Syndicate. Meanwhile, IMF is being shut down by the cia okay so uh the cia agent alec baldwin is here the shadow the shadow himself and he wants to retire the imf his this is sort of like a bit of a captain america civil war situation when they're beginning to recognize like you guys are pretty wild with your methods this is pretty silly

and one of the people on this this panel that Brandt is having to stand in front of, they say, your unorthodox methods are indistinguishable from chance, which is a nice little summary of everything that they do in the movies. And I like the self-awareness of it as well, that people watching it who are a little bit more, you know, there's people that watch movies and go, oh, as if that would happen. You're like, have a little bit of fun.

Yeah, lighten up. Lighten up. Cruise is getting older in this one. He's only five years younger than John Voight was in the first Mission Impossible film. So this is, oh, I didn't write down the year for this one. Can you look up what the year was for Rogue Nation? Rogue Nation, yes, I'm on it.

Because we've got to know where you were. So in this one, Benji is back. 2015. 2015. Where were you in 2015? Had you gotten over those chickenpox? Just. I did Comedy Zone.

You did Raw. That's true, yes. What a year. Yeah. What a year for comedy. Thank you for remembering that because I was like, 2015. What was I doing? That's when I started comedy. You're absolutely right. Yeah. What a year for comedy. Thank you for remembering that because I was like, 2015, what was I doing? That's when I started comedy.

You're absolutely right. Yeah, right. And everyone knows that. Everyone knows that. Have we been asking you where you were? We're just like, we'll answer this. Yeah, thanks. I don't really give a fuck about it.

Thanks a lot. You know when people ask a question because they want to answer it, Marcel's been patiently waiting for that every time. He's had a really good joke written down for each one we haven't asked. Where were you in 2015? I've got like a page worth of stuff. I don't really know. I think I moved to Sydney. Oh, I got married.

Yeah, that's one you should know. I mean, that was one day in that year. Is that 2015? Yeah, I believe. That's like 300 plus other days that year. I had met you before you got married. So there you go. Pre and post.

Yeah. And look, let me say, what an improvement. Maybe that year I did a, I don't know if it was your room or if you were just hosting a room above a record store in Sydney. Oh, yeah, I would have been hosting that. The record crate. Oh, yeah, I would have been hosting that. And you were... The record crepe.

And you had used this gimmick where you were playing open mic bingo. Oh, yeah. Did you use that many times? I used it a couple of times because hosting open mic sucks. So having a little bit of fun with going like, I'm going to have a little bit of fun with the comedians who are on tonight and we'll tick the box when it says dick joke. We'll tick the box when someone says,

so I'm single and I can have something to do across the show and we can have that moment when someone goes, bingo. I'm glad you remembered that. So yeah, they say Benji is back. Hunt has to pull him out of his new desk job so Benji gets sent away to the CIA. The IM is is dissolved what are they going to do what are they going to do ethan is once again having to sort of work

um in the in the dark in the shadows and this sort of becomes a sort of a buddy movie between um ethan and benji and benji is becoming more and more capable meanwhile brant anduthor are in buddy mode trying to track them down before Alec Baldwin and the CIA do. So you've got a lot of people being pursued in this movie. Because also, the CIA are on shoot-to-kill orders. This idea is like, maybe Ethan Hunt is not a cool guy. We've got to take him out. That's a pretty full-on order. You've got to really be sure.

To give the CIA agents a license to kill, so to speak. That is big. That is big. They don't give that to everyone. That's a good point. The new cast member, Rebecca Ferguson, as Ilse. Sorry, I forgot. This isn't America.

They do give that right to everyone. Everyone. Everyone has a right to shoot to kill. ACAB. Did we say ACAB on this podcast? Is this an ACAB podcast? Comedians. Comedians

are beautiful. That's nice. Rebecca Ferguson has joined the cast as Ilsa Faust. Rebecca Ferguson. Why does that ring a bell? Her biggest films

are the Mission Impossible films. She's been in a few other things. She's originally, I think, from Sweden, I believe. And she married Prince Andrew. Yes, yes, yes. Or one of the princes. Prince, did she?

Oh, she's in bloody, she's in The Greatest Showman. That's what it is. I didn't see it. Look, it's fine. Did she play the bearded lady? She didn't play the bearded lady. She played an incredible singer that so many people came to see. It's not her singing at all.

Spoiler. Do you want to hum a few bars from the song? Never enough! It was a big, like, you know, she hit some high notes and people went, wow. Really want to double check if you know what hum means, Jess. Thank you. So, she is from British intelligence

and she's undercover with the syndicate, where there's this sort of anti-IMF, the bad IMF. The chaos to their control. Yes, indeed. Yes, if we're talking about get smart rules. Is that what we're talking about? Well, I see the whole world through that lens.

Also an iconic theme. So good. I wonder if they thought with the Steve Carell Get Smart movie, they were going to start their own franchise of films. They should have got Jeremy Renner. They should have got Jeremy. Pass the torch.

If you want to pass the torch, you've got to get Renner. So she's in double agent mode. If you detected her last name's Faust. Are you familiar with the Faustian legend? Deal with the devil. They just went like, let's just literally call her Faust. It's very on the nose. And they shook hands and said, that's a pact.

And then they handed her a gun and said, it's Chekhov. A lot of those characters that we've met in previous films, like Paula Patton and Maggie Q, are just not talked about again. Cool. And it just turns out that it's, Kristen Macquarie said in an interview that it was just logistics all the time. They're like, do you want to do this next one? No, you're not available.

Okay, well, we'll figure it out then. So what else can I tell you? That was humming. That was humming. Oh, you've nailed it. So let me tell you about the syndicate. You can lip read people humming. Yes, I can.

Oh, that person over there is humming. Across the room. I can't hear it, but I can see it. They're humming. So the syndicate are the new baddies, and I'll tell you about them because they come up. They're going to be reoccurring baddies now. So they're here and they're a shadow terror organization.

They're made up of ex-spies and agents around the world, presumed dead. We later learn they were created by someone from British intelligence and then they went rogue. So this guy in British intelligence is like, oh, what if we experiment with this idea that we could create our own shadow operation that no one knows about, but then

this rogue operation goes rogue themselves? Whoopsie-daisy. Did you say shadow operation? I know a guy who'd be really good for this. The shadow knows. This one's called Rogue something as well. Rogue Nation. In the original

TV series the syndicate were actually like American mafia they were organized crime this was a result

of like because in the TV series IMF are going to all these countries and messing with stuff and like oh we're American

and we'll save the day we'll sort this out and then in light of the Vietnam War at the time audiences started going like oh is this

are you really saving the day yeah is this cool that you're going in and messing around with these different countries? So they changed it. Whoa, we're creating a quagmire. Whoa. People don't like a quagmire anymore? We reinserted our own president.

Is that a big deal? So they started doing American organized crime to be like, hey, this is cool though, right? This is not questionable. The villain in this movie is Solomon Lane, played by Sean Harris, who's in a lot of British stuff, but not really a face. I knew him as the creepy drug dealer

from the Michael Caine movie, Harry Brown. Oh, no. It's a small movie, but... Oh, yeah. I think I know him from this movie. Yeah, right. I don't recognise him. Oh, that's right.

I've seen this. So he's an ex-government agent now using terrorism to create change for himself. He's no longer following orders. He's no longer under someone else's control. This is the first film in the franchise where Ethan Hunt and the primary antagonist, the villain, share no physical contact

whatsoever. No shaking hands, no smooches. He's really good. He's a great villain. He played Ian Curtis in 24 Hour Party People. Oh, I never saw that. Well, do yourself a favour. Do yourself a flavour.

Who said that? Craig David, I think. What's your flavour? Do yourself a flavour. The big heist in this one. We're losing it. This is an epic. We're in an epic.

I love the rollercoaster of an epic where you lose and find your mind. And, of course, I'm in the mode of like, don't ever say you welcome us, but do a decent enough job where you're still delivering, but also be aware that, oh, my goodness. You're doing great. Genuinely, don't feel like you have to rush. And the listeners have said many times They love the long ones

I love the long ones too I'll listen to them over different That's the beauty of it Occasionally people complain about lengths Like too long It's like forgetting that they can pause Or just stop altogether And then on the flip side

Sometimes the episodes are too short What's going on? You're keeping them too short now. Should we put an interval in this one? Yeah. More intermissions. Yeah, like a half hour silence. So people can pop out and get down to the shops or something.

And then when they see a four hour episode on their podcast app, they're like, what the fuck? And I'm like, no, no, no. Don't worry, most of it's equal. It's got two intervals. So you can go to the concession stand. Yes. Don't worry, most of it's in tools. It's got two in tools. I should say- So you can go to the concession stand. Yes. The vast majority of people don't complain either way.

They don't say anything. Yeah. I assume they're happy with whatever. Yeah. Imagine riding into one of your favorite podcasts with feedback. I would never do that. Oh, have you done that before? Yes.

What did you do? Oh, no. No comment. All right, the big heist. Oh, that's ringing the Vegas bell. Oh, I'm sure it was. Have we taken it on board? It was all well-meaning.

Oh, I think it's always well-meaning. Yeah, but also... It's just hard to... Stay out of it, Marcel. Sometimes it's just hard to... You know, when you're getting contradictory feedback, it makes me feel real anxious. Like, I'm like, I don't know what to do here.

But also, like, any creative thing, like, people are figuring it out, you know, and, like, especially, like, you just let people figure it out. But also, like, I think, too, like I think too what's the Australian comedian that told Eric Banner not to take the chopper role Dave O'Neill those sort of moments where just don't say anything imagine that

I didn't know that don't do that, stay with comedy it's going to be ridiculous that is so funny Dave O'Neill don't take it. Oh, no. Eric, I wouldn't.

I remember Marcel emailed saying, get rid of this Dave guy. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we finally have. We didn't hear it. Yeah, the listeners will slowly realize that this European vacation goes on for a very long time. Oh, yeah, Dave's still in Europe.

Has been for five years. And we wish him well. Marcel's back again. He's visiting Melbourne and said he'd drop by. So that's good. That'd be brutal if you used one of his great punchlines about it. And we wish him well. I forgot where I got that from.

Dave, may he rest in peace. No, I mean, no, enjoy his holiday. Enjoy his holiday. Enjoy the rest. Because time difference means he's probably sleeping now. He's a snoozer. Yeah, that's all. He's a snoozer right now. Yeah, yeah.

And we're back from the intermission. So the big heist. I like how we just went on quite a long, tedious riff off the back of you going, we better hurry up here. That is a real... I want to say this for truth, just so we don't leave. Early on in this podcast I loved listening to it and I remember I must have just been in

I don't know what mood I was in and I want you to forgive me for this. A helpful mood. I sent a message being like, I think sometimes the tangents are too long and I love the subject. You know, so it was me being like... Yeah think sometimes the tangents are too long and I love the subject. You know, so it was me being like, yeah. And this podcast is famous for tangents and it's why people love it. So I felt like Eric Bennett being told,

what if you don't do that? What if you don't do the thing that makes this show the best? I think there would be plenty of people who stopped listening for that reason as well. So it's hard. Yeah, who knows what would happen. But I'm a big listener of this podcast. I think we talked about that at one point.

We're like, but what would we be? Just like people can find out stuff on the internet easily. Look how easily we've found out this stuff. What if you just read the entire Wikipedia page, you guys? What if it was just one person Wikipedia page, you guys? Yeah. What if it was just one person in the room doing that? Apparently that is a podcast. It's a sleep time podcast.

Maybe you could try that. That's not a bad idea. Yeah, that's okay. I mean, I use Wikipedia pretty, I only use it every now and then. I think that is a bit of a misconception about the show that we're just reading the Wikipedia page. I use it a bit. I think it's great. And Marcel, I don't think you should really play into this myth.

That was the other message I sent you. Go back into your inbox. It's like, also, Wikipedia is brought up too much, and that Wikipedia joke you keep making, boring. Also, Matt sucks. Jess is a loser. Dave rules. He's changed his tune.

Stuff that I've just written, like, you know, drunk at 2am. When you're being too honest. And another thing. There's a lot of that. Have you ever sent a message to someone like on Facebook and you haven't messaged them in ages and like there is a message from ages ago? That's awkward too. Yes.

It's so nice that you can now delete the messages. The last message was like begging for a gig. And then you're like, oh, hey, can I also? Can I get a gig again? The last line I messaged you was also, can I have a gig? How are you, by the way? Are you good? But I also see you as a person.

Yeah. Hey, man, how's it going? I hope you're doing really well. Can't believe it's been so long. That gig. That gig you're on above that record stall? So, the big heist in Rogue Nation, this impossible mission,

is how to break into a vault via the server's cooling tank in order to get a ledger that proves the syndicate is real. Because everyone's saying, the syndicate's a myth, bro. It doesn't exist. Alec Baldwin's not convinced so it's only i think the sort of series is overdue to have an underwater level by now you know what i mean it's natural come to think of it i don't think they've done korea from when they haven't done like a skiing level there is snow in the next

movie but there hasn't there isn't yeah there isn's a big action play that's because the guy did Ninja Turtles and Transform Michael Bay hasn't done one yet that'll definitely have some sort of a ski fight I don't give

Michael Bay this movie I don't think they would would they I don't think so I think Cruise has too much control wait could you

say that more efficiently I couldn't I couldn't possibly one of the fun gadgets in this one is an assassin who uses a trumpet and he converts it into a sniper rifle. Love that. Which feels like something out of a Leslie Nielsen movie or something. Yes.

Only in the Leslie Nielsen, it would sound like a trumpet as he shot up. This is the first Mission Impossible movie to not feature what they call an IMDb a jump and hang, which is the starfish moment. So how do you even know it's a Mission Impossible movie? I don't know. It doesn't count. It's not canon. My favorite bit in this is there's a battle at an opera. Like while the opera is happening, like Ethan and this guy are battling this assassin.

And Benji is having to stop this other assassin. There's three assassins going on at the same time in this same opera. There's this, the worst IMDb trivia I've ever seen. At the time of the movie's release, the Chancellor of Austria was Werner Feynman and there was never an attempt on his life. Wait, they're saying this is fiction? These are the stupidest thing ever?

I wasn't even the same guy. What, is this from the future or what? I don't get it. I don't get it. This is dumb. I better put that online. I better type that into trivia because no one ever tried to kill him. That's weird they put that in the movie.

That's so funny. That's so good. that's so funny um so this is the big movie where uh ethan hunt uh climbs on the outside of an airplane that's taking off so this was using a lot of promo material that oh he's gonna hold onto the side of the airplane as it's as it's launching and this is just in the opening sequence of the movie like pre pre-credits roll. But it's an amazing stunt. So to capture the action, a wind-resistant custom frame for the camera was built and mounted onto the left wing of the plane.

The other major problem would be keeping Cruise's eyes open in the presence of the fast wind. He's got no sleepy in his old age. Boring! It's not exciting enough for him okay good grief so his eye specialist designed a special lens that can cover the entire eyeball doesn't that sound super gross oh wait the entire eyeball yeah i don't like it at all i mean i don't know like i guess it's all the much all the stuff that the wind would be able to hit.

So I guess, like, yeah, a lot of the front, I suppose. Fucking hell. They cut the bit that connects that cord that puts it into the brain or whatever. Sorry, I should say I'm not a scientist. But, like, it fully wraps the eyeball and he goes blind. Just in silico. Like, but you can keep your eyes open now. Eight takes of the stunt were filmed. Christopher McQuarrie was very concerned that the actor might panic suddenly,

but was assured by crews to not stop filming until the stunt had been finished. So, like, that's the thing with these huge stunts. It's like not only is he doing it, like, he's doing it eight times to get the footage, which is just wild. Just crazy. No wonder he couldn't keep his eyes open big day so ethan's back in london for the first time since the first movie uh his new power in this movie uh towards the end uh the syndicate he got he gets this big list of all the syndicates like bank information where

they'd be able to fund their terrorist attacks and continue to be this rogue IMF, evil IMF. But Cruz destroys the USB stick, but not until he's memorized all the bank information himself. Sure. I don't even know my bank information. Neither do I. My wife's very good at remembering any numbers. I can't do it at all.

So Solomon Lane's there going like, I'm going to blow up Benji. He's got an explosive device attached to Benji and he says, where's the disc? And Ethan Hunt replies, you're looking at it. I am the disc. That's good. The original line was, you can't handle the disc.

But they changed that at the last minute. Citation needed. This is the first Mission Impossible where the main villain is not killed. So all the other movies. I did mention that Philip Seymour Hoffman's character gets hit by a car. They're both underneath a truck. And Ethan Hunt lifts him up high enough to get taken out by the car, which is pretty intense.

So he kills a bit, Ethan Hunt. Ethan Hunt's not one of those sort of superheroes like... He's not a Batman type. He's not a Batman type. Although I was thinking recently about characters like Batman and Spider-Man that must do some horrific injuries to these people. Sometimes low-level criminals must never walk again, and Spider-Man is there going,

well, you shouldn't have dealt that small amount of drugs. Yeah, to support your family. I've got the moral high ground here. I didn't kill you, though, did I? I'm a good guy. You're alive. You've got an opportunity to turn your life around. Actually, I don't because I can't walk,

and I couldn't possibly get a job, Spider-Man. Are you going to do anything to help me? The American healthcare system is terrible. And you have access to a lot of great tech. Yeah. Any way you could help me out? Could you ask Tony Stark to get me some new legs or something? No.

You should have thought of that before you dealt that small amount of drugs. Yeah. Oh, you didn't actually deal with it? You were just next to the guys doing it? Oh. Yeah, well. Gotta go. Anyway.

Thwip, thwip. Thwip, thwip. Thwip, thwip. That's just him saying that out loud. There's not enough thwarting in too much thwipping, if you ask me. Yeah, this is true. This is true. So, Sean Harris, who plays solomon lane he agreed to appear

as as the villain on the proviso that his character be killed and he didn't want to be in any sequels and they didn't do that they didn't do it so both writer so christopher christopher i can't say the word christopher today christopher mcquarrie and tom Cruise agreed but couldn't find a way to dispose of the character that felt narratively satisfying. As a result, they decided to have Lane be captured with no plans to reappear. However, during the last days of filming Rogue Nation, they

both had the idea that the next film's mission should revolve around Hunt having to break Lane out of prison. So they were like nah! You actually are coming back. And what did Lane have to do it against his will the next movie? Yeah, the whole movie he's like blinking at the camera to like save me. And no one, they had to edit out his eyelids so it didn't distract from the viewing.

And it's creepier. It's more distracting because he never blinks. Sometimes in the background of some scenes you can see him mouthing the words, help me, help me. It's me, Sean Harris. I'm not in character. I didn't want to be here. And then Tom Cruise just steps in front of him.

And goes, everything's good here. And they left all of that in. It's weird. It's a strangely edited film. It's a strange choice. So let's talk about the most recent movie to come out. This is Mission Impossible Fallout 2018. I didn't realise there were this many, and I should say I watched them all a few months ago,

but I think this is maybe my favourite of all of them. But I think the last three have all been great. Yeah, I think this one is the biggest thrill ride, dare I say. Biggest romp? It's the biggest romp, and I think it one is the biggest thrill ride, dare I say. Biggest romp? It's the biggest romp, and I think it's got the best amount of, like, it's got the best characters in it. I also, you know, sometimes when you see the film and the mood you're in

can elevate it. I remember I went to this Indian restaurant in Brisbane. I love Indian. In New Farm. And there's a deal where you can have a meal deal and get- A Mission Impossible disc. And it includes two movie tickets for the cinema across the road.

Oh, right. And I used one of those tickets to wander across the road and watch this film in an empty cinema by myself. I was there for Brisbane Comedy Festival or something. And I'm just like, I'm living like a king. That's the best. What did you do with the second ticket? Well, like any king would do, I lit it and smoked a cigar. Oh, that's cool.

Oh, just like Cape Fear style in the cinema, just laughing it up while a family of people are like, hey, can you keep it down, buddy? I said it was empty. It was by the end of the film. So this is three years later, making it the shortest gap between mission movies. It's titled Fallout,

to refer both to nuclear fallout and the fallout of Hunt's actions. Or as one of the villains in the movie warns, the fallout of all your good intentions. And they also did the flossing dance in the film. Did that originate from that game? Jess, you're the gamer here.

You think you're Fortnite. Damn it, I get those too confused. Yeah, same. You know those moments where you're like, am I supposed to know this reference? And just sort of nod and be like, oh, wait a minute. Actually, you fucked up. Well, that's not like me. The smart one of the group. I'm the brawn.

Jess, you're the man in the van. I'm the man in the van. Oh, actually, yeah, that'd be great. I'm a good driver. Is there a mattress in the van? Great driver, great parker. Can I have a snooze in the van? I could be the getaway driver.

I'm a pretty good driver. Not unlike baby driver himself. Yeah, but I'd be listening to an audio book and not cool tunes. That'd be amazing. So every now and then I'd go ha ha. You still have to match the driving to the audio book.

That's right, yeah. So it's actually quite a leisurely drive. But that makes us less suspicious. That is true. All that skidding around and spinning and stuff. Clearly the car. People don't drive like that. So this is arguably the first proper sequel in the series

because it relies substantially on plot devices and even antagonists established in the preceding Mission Impossible Rogue Nation. So like if you watched this one without seeing the previous one you would get a little bit lost because there's a lot of stuff going on. Similar to the later Fast and the Furious movies. Like if you watch this one without seeing the previous one, you would get a little bit lost because there's a lot of stuff going on. Similar to the later Fast and the Furious movies.

Like if you watch them in isolation, you start to go, okay, why do I care about any of these people? I think that's what I did. I hadn't seen the previous ones. This is the one that got me into it to go back and watch the other ones. And I still really enjoyed it without knowing.

I just sort of, you know, you just go, all right, I get it. These movies are a bit confusing anyway. So I think that must be one of the trickiest things for them I still really enjoyed it without knowing. I just sort of, you know, you just go, all right, I get it. Yeah, it's a lot of spy stuff. These movies are a bit confusing anyway. Yeah. So I think that must be one of the trickiest things for them because they've got this device where anyone can be anyone else because of the masks. It must be, you've just got to get that balance right so that people watching aren't like,

ah, fuck this. Yeah. And I reckon maybe that second one, the one that had so many masks got to the point where you're like, oh, this is getting a bit silly now. Yeah. And I reckon maybe that second one, the one that had so many masks, got to the point where you're like, oh, this is getting a bit silly now. Yeah. Even though it is silly, but it can be, somehow there's a threshold

of how much you take before you're like, I'm not taking anyone at their word now. Yeah, exactly. You've still got to buy into the thing. So the wiki synopsis for this one, when an IMF mission to recover plutonium ends badly, the world is faced with a threat of the Apostles, a terrorist organization formed by former members of the Syndicate. As Ethan Hunt takes it upon himself to fulfill the original mission, the CIA begins to question his loyalty and his motives.

So the opening shot of this one, Ethan and his wife, Michelle Monaghan, is back getting married on a beach. But what's this? Who's the priest? Only Solomon Lane What? And then he wakes up, it's a dream a nightmare if you will This is the first dream sequence we've seen in the movie, there's a few more in this

in this movie because Ethan Hunt he's a little bit he's always cool and calm pretty much but there's a few moments where he's like a little bit on edge like he always has to be in control

but he's a few moments he goes oh I'm a little jittered I'm a little jittered by this oh I just need to you know guys he like

he's in the middle of a fight scene he's like can I just can I just have a couple of minutes to gather my thoughts just give me five

can we all take five we'll take five I'm just if I can be honest I am in a bit of a weird place at the moment. I'm not sleeping all that well. In a bit of a funk, okay. I'm in a funk. And yeah, I just, I am not myself.

I'm so sorry. People call me Ethan Hunt. I'm more Ethan Funk at the moment. Yes. So I love code phrases in these spy movies. So a knock at his door comes after he wakes up from his nightmare and the delivery man says, fate whispers to the warrior. And Ethan Hunt says, a storm is coming. The delivery man says, and the warrior whispers back.

And Ethan Hunt says, I am the storm. Oh, that's a good line. Nice little combo. In the Shadow movies, they have this as well. If I can bring things back to the Shadow. And you can. Please do. Fuck, what is it?

It's something like the guy says, oh, the ice is slippery. Watch the movie and get back to me. That's great sizzle, though. I think a lot of people are going, oh, I want to watch it and find out. The Shadow does a lot of life-saving. He says, I saved your life. Now it belongs to me. Then he has a lot of operatives that work for him.

So if I save your life, you're now at my bidding anytime I need you. Okay, just let me die. Oh, if that's the case. Let me go. Yeah, I'll go. Put me back in the water. Back in the volcano, thank you. The water volcano. I saved your life. Now it belongs to me. So the first mission of this movie

fails. So this is the plutonium thing and Hunt and Benji and Luther lose the plutonium. Luther almost dies. We cut to a series of nuclear attacks on the TV. Wolf Blitzer is on the news announcing about these nuclear attacks. And there's a man in hospital bed. He's watching this news.

He's just woken up and he's seeing the news on TV. And then Luther and Hunt come in and they're like, hey, you're the nuclear guy. You're the guy who made these nuclear devices. Now look what they've done. They've blown up the whole world. We've got your manifesto here. This was all your intention. And he's like, what happened to me?

He's like, oh, you were in a car accident two weeks ago. And since then, all these monuments have been exploded by these nuclear weapons. And we need you to unlock this phone because, you know, we need to be able to get this information from you. And, yeah, it's locked and we need a SIM card to go overseas. And, yeah, so I don't know if you – I know this is sort of off topic, but if you could –

I've got a holiday to Thailand. Yeah, just after we wrap this up, so, yeah. Yeah, I didn't want to be without a phone, obviously. And also sometimes it's hard to like, to just rely on wifi. So I want to, yeah, I want to get a SIM card in there,

but the phone is locked. Unlimited data would be great. If you can. That's not too much to ask. So I remember watching this scene and being like, oh my God, the IMF has already lost the mission. Like there's been nuclear explosions in the world.

And the guy's like, Hey, if you get Wolf blitzer to read my manifesto on tv i'll unlock the phone so they're like we've got no choice and they're doing they're doing and they and they they get on the phone to their bosses wolf blitzer gets this manifesto that he starts reading the nuclear villain in the beds like all right i'll unlock my phone that has all this information on it and then ethan hun's like, he just says, go. And then the hospital room falls down around him.

It's a sick reveal. It's all been a set. So good. Wolf Blitzer was just Benji wearing a mask. Whoa. They don't really explain the footage of the nuclear blast. I guess maybe like Dr. Evil, they just got the footage from Independence Day or whatever.

No, they put masks on the monuments. Fire masks. Disaster masks and fire masks, yeah. Because you can't just be in the movie like, oh, we used CGI for those explosions like you would if you were in a movie. I think CGI can still exist in a movie with CGI in it, surely. Well, you can, but it also takes you out. What's the difference between a CGI explosion and a real explosion in the same world?

Do they have to make it look particularly bad, like it's claymation or something like that? Yeah. I mean, what's the difference between a CGI and a real explosion in our world? That's so true. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Whoa, that's deep. I've been thinking about that for a long time.

That spun me around a full 360, so I agree with my original point of view. The villain in this movie is the mysterious John Lark. So once again, you've got like a guy who's like, this is a,

there's an evil guy in the midst but we don't know who it is yet. Even Lark is even, even though it's not what we were talking about before,

like a Dr. X or something, it's still. Something spooky about Lark. Is that like a kind of bird or something? I believe so. A spooky bird. Like one of those birds that kills? I don't think they're spooky.

I think they're just nice little birds. I think they might herald something. Herald, yes. Herald evil times or something. Or is that... I'm thinking the word hark. Hark, who goes there? Yeah, but you would hark a lark, you know?

Yeah, that's true. Hark a lark. The big stunt in you would hark-a-lark, you know? Yeah, that's true. Hark-a-lark. The big stunt in this one is a huge, is a halo jump. Do you know what halo stands for? You want to take a stab? Hey! In relation to like a big jump. Yeah, I'm doing it.

Legs. Hey, all legs over! You're close. It's high altitude, low opening. That's what I said. Yeah. Hey, all legs over. So I guess low opening refers to like how close to the ground they are

before their parachutes are opened. So this one is sort of insane. So in this, like this sequence was like they practiced over a year to do this, for Tom Cruise to do this for real. Whoa. They also, as part of the sequence, it's obviously all pretended it's a movie, but the other Henry Cavill's character,

who we'll talk about in a sec, he's passed out while falling. And so Ethan Hunt has to try and wake him up midair and reattach his oxygen so he can wake up and land safely. This guy said that rescuing another person in free fall while skydiving is very difficult. Alan Hewitt says that it takes accelerated free fall instructors over 1,000 jumps to get it right. And something like 70% of the people who try to qualify the instructor level fail. Tom just had 100 jumps to perfect this.

So Tom Cruise is like some sort of weird machine man. Yeah, he can learn skills real quick. I wonder where he gets his energy from. Coke? Yeah, I don't know. You mean it's from Elrond? I mean, you hear about people that use blood from young people. Oh, yeah.

You think it's illegal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Young blood. Young blood. But what kind of age has the most energy? I'm thinking toddlers. Yeah, that's true. Toddler blood.

And remember, he was in Interview with a Vampire. That's true. Think about it. Don't toddlers nap every day? Shit, okay. That's true. So what are your... It's teenagers?

What if you get a mix? You mix some toddler blood with some teenager blood? Because teenagers sleep a lot as well, but they just have more resilience to like... Do you remember being hungover as a teen in early 20s and you could go to work? Yeah, I reckon early 20s is probably... Early 20s. You could just survive on so little sleep and the shittest food and you'd never exercise and you'd look the best you've ever looked and felt the best you've ever felt.

Yeah, let's kill them. Kill them all. Drain their blood. You don't have to kill them to get their blood. Oh, okay. Well, okay. This is news to me. Well, I've got some families to apologize to because I've killed a lot of kids.

So Henry Cavill, Superman himself. He's great in this. He's amazing in this. He's a beautiful addition. So he's joining the squad on behalf of the CIA. So they're like, hey, we don't trust the IMF doing this mission after they lost the plutonium. So Angela Bassett's character, who's the new director of the CIA, after Alec Baldwin's character left to run the IMF, she's like, all right, we're putting Henry Cavill in there. Is he British?

No, he's American. His name's August Walker. Oh. August Walker. Augie Walker. I like it. Augie Walker. Hello, it's me, Augie Walker.

August's a great name. I've got a listener named August, or we used to. Yeah. One of my fave names. Great name, August. It's a good name. As far as the months go, you hear April sometimes, which is fine. Or May.

April is nice. June. June is nice. January. I reckon August is the best month name. I've never met a December though. Or an October. That feels, I mean, I assume they're all out there.

I'm on a hunt for a red October. October hunt. Should we get on Ethan? Give him some ideas? Yeah. So this is a nice little way to describe these characters. So Angela Bassett's character says, you use a scalpel? I prefer a hammer.

So that's who Agent Walker is. He's a hammer to Ethan Hunt's scalpel. Right. And to every problem to Walker is looks like a nail. That's true. He is that sort of guy. So he's got this beautiful big moustache. He is a tank of a man. This is the one, this is the reason they had to CGI out his moustache

in one of the Superman movies. Exactly. So they had to do reshoots for Justice League and because of the idea of like, well, we own this guy and we own the other guy. Yeah, they had to CGI the moust um yeah they had to cgi the mustache because they refused to sort of work around it wow yeah and it looks awful and that movie is that whole scene is awful as a result uh jerry morena is not in this film due to his commitment he was he was

busy doing avengers stuff apparently if he was to do the movie they would have killed him in the first scene. Okay, good thing he wasn't available. And it sort of doesn't really need to be mentioned where he is because a lot of the movie is like on the run sort of stuff where we're moving quickly. We haven't really put a team together sort of stuff. When you're on the run, you don't have a lot of time to check in with old friends.

Yeah, exactly. And be like, hey, who can we count on in this moment? Maybe the guy who was in the last two movies? Ah, man. Yeah, don't worry about it. Like a lot of those Avengers movies have moments where they're like, oh, should we call up our other superhero buddies for this one? They're like, oh, no, we don't want to bother him.

He's doing other stuff. This isn't an Iron Man mission. This is more of an Ant-Man thing. We need someone small. We need a small guy. And how tall is Tony Stark? He's not an ant size. He's like 5'8",

but then you put him in the suit. He's obviously giving himself platforms. He's like 6'2". He's not going to fit in this mouse hole, is he? No, we need Ant-Man. Yeah, we need Ant-Man to chase this mouse. Mouse-Man. In Deadpool or one of those movies

and they just have two of the cheapest X-Men appear. Yeah. They're like, oh, the whole X-Men house is empty. I know I sort of made a joke of it. But we got big metal, man. Deadpool loves a little gag. He's not afraid of a gag.

Yeah. If you like fourth walls, this is not the movie for you because they get broken. So the best fight in this movie, there's this iconic fight scene in a bathroom in a giant club in Paris where they parachute into. For some reason, it is also the cleanest club bathroom you've ever seen. Oh, it is so white. Often the emptiest as well. Rarely are people ever coming into this.

Whenever I see something like that in an action movie, like a really clean thing, or someone's wearing a white shirt, movie like a really clean thing or someone's wearing a white shirt or in a horror movie where they're not wearing shoes and wearing shorts you're like well blood's coming to that clean white thing it just feels like i remember i was watching a horror movie the other month and this guy was walking around at home with shorts and no shoes on i'm like he's having his legs slashed and that's what happened. It just feels like, why else would they? It's like Chekhov's legs. Exactly.

If you introduce a pair of bare legs in Act 1, you have to cut them off by Act 2. But did they splatter a lot of blood in this thing? There's a little bit, but remember, this is a PG-13 movie, so if you put too much blood in, then you become MA or R-rated in America straight away. Yeah, but this is more MMA. Does American go PG-13

to R? Yeah, they don't have MA. M or MA. That's why when you hear Deadpool's going to be an R-rated movie, to an Australian audience, that's like, oh, that sounds... Is that hardcore porn? Yeah, that sounds hardcore. But to an Australian audience, it's like, oh, that sounds... Is that hardcore porn? Yeah, that sounds hardcore. Yeah, right.

But to an American audience, it's just, yeah, it's 18 plus. So we've got like PG and then M, then MA. Yeah, MA 15 plus restricted. Yeah. They don't have a... They just have PG-13. So they, yeah, it's a confusing thing. It's different over there.

We slowly mature, but over there, they go from teens to adults like boom. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, true. We're very slow. They can handle it. It's so funny how beyond the age of about 13, 14, you don't really pay attention to, I have no idea the ratings of films because I'm a grown up and I can go see any of them. Oh, really?

You don't watch it and go, oh, this might be a bit scary for me. Oh, yeah. No. If I watch a trailer and go, ooh, spooky, then I'm not watching it. Yeah, ideally, I don't want to know, especially if it's PG, because I'll be so aware

of it. I'm like, oh, they're not... That person definitely would have said fuck there. But if you don't know, you don't miss it. This is the first Mission Impossible movie that they do say fuck in, Because you can say one fuck that's not sexual in a PG-13 movie. You can't say I wanna fuck!

You can't say that. Ethan Hunt doesn't say I wanna fuck! But you can say oh fuck! Yeah, you can say oh fuck. Once. I believe it is Walker himself that says fucking, I think, in some scene. Right. So yeah, amazing fight scene.

Apparently it was meant to be shot in four days, but it took several weeks to be shot. And it's just a beautiful fight. This is the fight scene that you might remember from the trailer where Henry Cavill's character reloads his arms. He sort of jacks his arms in a way, like they're two beefy shotguns. And it's just a beautiful moment. And they go,

oh, apparently that scene was that idea was improvised. Like, oh, wow! Cool! He thought of that? The actor did an acting thing? That's what actors are doing. They have to fill in a thing. Because the director is often going like, okay, you'll walk from this

space to this space, and you're angry and you want to fight that guy. So it's not amazing that he's like, maybe I'll move my arms a bit. It's like, oh, that was, you improvised that? I thought of that. Are you the most genius man in the world? He is an artist. Artist, I would say. Max is back.

Sorry, skull face. Thank you. But it's her daughter this time around and her name you'll like this the daughter's code name The White Widow that's better

that's better she doesn't have to be called Skull Face because she's already got a cool name White Widow's good and she's doing that same sort of

shadow broker sort of stuff yeah as well the Act 2 mission is a big one as well. We've got to break out Solomon Lane, as I alluded to before.

Now, Ethan Hunt has gone undercover as John Lark. But now, he's going undercover as John Lark, but then the CIA is going, but is Ethan actually John Lark? And now, it's just a convenient thing that he's pretending to be undercover as John Lark, but then the CIA is going, but is Ethan actually John Lark? And now it's just a convenient thing that he's pretending

to be undercover as John Lark, but this whole time, actually, he is the evil guy, John Lark. Is he double bluffing or is he triple bluffing? Yeah, exactly. So now he's sort of in John Lark mode, which is confusing. I can see Jess's face begin to turn. Yeah, it glows over a little bit there. Have you seen these movies?

No. Not a single one. I think you'd enjoy them. I feel like you'd enjoy them too, but maybe not. What do you reckon just on having heard? Oh, I definitely want to watch them, yes. Because they feel like a fun romp. But I think I've probably avoided them because I am probably in that camp of like,

I don't really like Tom Cruise that much. But then I saw that movie with him and Emily Blunt. Edge of Tomorrow? Yes. And I really enjoyed that. Yeah, I reckon that one with him and Emily Blunt. Edge of Tomorrow? Yes. And I really enjoyed that. Yeah. I reckon that one turned me back around as well. That movie's great.

I was like, he had moments in there where I was like, is he funny? Like, is he capable of funny? Oh, my God. I just think it's really good. Yeah. I love that scene where he's having to learn how to roll away from everyone doing push-ups. And the first time he's trying to roll away to roll away from everyone doing push-ups, and the first time he's trying to roll away, he gets crushed by a car, and the army instructor

is like, why the hell would you do that? Yeah, it's good stuff. Very funny. The vibe of this episode would have been so different if Dave was here. Yeah. Because he hates Tom Cruise. He would have been saying, poof, a lot. Oh, poof.

Tom Cruise did steal his first girlfriend. Oh, that is true. Yeah, we should mention that. That's that is true. We should mention that. That's why. Yeah. He wore a Dave mask. It was actually really fucking weird. Pretty full on, actually.

And then he took the mask off and the girlfriend was like, oh, much better. Yeah. Anyway, we wish Dave well. Yeah, we do wish him well on his holiday. Holiday. I'm not doing air quotes right now. So, yeah, so they break out Solomon Lane in this amazing, like he's in prison transport,

not unlike how they broke out Dom out of prison in one of the Fast and Furious movies as well. Are they set in the same universe? Maybe. Maybe. I would love to see a team-up movie. What about in the A-Team where they just blast the door off the back of the... Oh, then he rides the door, doesn't he?

He rides the door. Yeah, that's fun. That's fun. That's my favourite. I haven't seen that. You've got to see it. That's a romp. That's a freaking romp.

Recently, I've seen a few clips of the TV show, and it's awful. Oh, yeah, yeah. But the film's fun. Maybe awful in a fun way i don't know i watched it i kept watching it for ages what does that say about you yeah i'm just like i can't i don't know what's going on it's just like every time i'm on tiktok i get big bang theory clips and i watch them what's the thing with those tiktok clips that are just recaps of tv shows yeah those are bizarre watch all of them though yeah me, I think it's good that they're helping the Big Bang Theory find a new audience. Finally, that niche show.

So they knock this car, the truck that Solomon Lane is in, into the water. There's this great underwater sequence. Meanwhile, Ethan Hunt and Walker have to, like they have a truck chase. Then that turns into a bike chase once again. Ethan Hunt is not wearing a helmet. Noisy wearing sunglasses this time. So he has to now use those weird contact lenses again so he can ride a motorcycle without a helmet or sunglasses,

any protective gear, which seems insane. Where are we at this point? We're still in Paris. Paris, yeah. Paris. So they're doing the bidding of the White Widow. The White Widow's like, hey, if you want to get this plutonium back, you've got to break out Solomon Lane.

Because that's the broker that I'm broking today. I'm a broker. Yeah, it's confusing. This is how I broke. Honestly, it's like a whole personality, you know? Get a hobby or something. Get a husband. Yo. Yes. She did have a husband. Honestly, it's like a whole personality, you know? Get a hobby or something. Get a husband. Yo.

Yes. She did have a husband. Oh, okay. We'll get another one. The White Widow. Oh. Get a new husband. Yeah, that's true.

Hey, everyone grieves in their own time. That's true. Don't make it your whole thing as well. That's going to be a real buzzkill on the day. Like, what's your name? Oh, I go by the White Widow. Okay. Well, I don't need? Oh, I go by the White Widow. Okay. Well, I don't need to ask any questions about

your past. Are they the spiders that fuck then kill their partner? That's Black Widow. Oh, okay. Totally different. I don't know how silly I must sound now. Yes, indeed. Confusing. Those two very different things. You're a silly billy.

This is the one where Tom Cruise broke his ankle on set and it stopped filming for a while. And it's sort of a small stunt that he was doing. He was jumping between two buildings. It wasn't a huge gap, but he misjudged the fall and broke his ankle. Wow. But he still recovers enough. Like the shot that they use in the movie is the ankle breaking

and he still runs off camera with it broken. Holy shit. Which is pretty intense. Also, the doctors had thought his injury would take nine weeks to heal, but Cruise was able to start running slowly just after seven weeks. Classic Cruise behavior. Teen blood. He definitely, yeah, he does have some sort of healing thing.

Yeah. Wolverine stuff. Yeah, Wolverine stuff. Well, I mean, he's a multimillionaire. This is true. He can afford virgin blood. You've got a team. Oh, yes, you've got a team.

You've got physios, you've got naturopaths. Robots. Robots. You've got teenagers to slaughter. Nanotechnology. Nanotechnology. You've got Iron Man on your team He's fixing stuff for you

It's not like, oh I'm so strong I did this through willpower alone You've got a team You stole someone else's ankle You've got an ankle transplant There is no Cable guy moment in this one What?

There are cables There's no hanging starfish moment. So we reveal later on that Walker, probably mid-movie we reveal that Walker was John Lark. So he's one of the apostles that are working for the syndicate and Solomon Lane. Which is Henry Cavill? Yeah, and Henry Cavill's turn from both initially like, I don't like your methods, Hunt, to like,

I don't like you, Hunt, and you're the worst, is such a great turn. He kills Alec Baldwin. He stabs him, which is quite a moment. Their showdown. They have this amazing helicopter showdown at the end of the movie where, of course, Tom Cruise

flew his helicopter for real. I like to think that he would challenge Henry Cavill to also fly his helicopter. He'd be like, well, I'm doing it, so you should do it. Oh, you're just going to get a guy

to do it, are you? Well, you probably don't even fly a Superman for real either. Lame. And that fight's pretty amazing. The cable guy moment, if there is one, is Ethan Hunt pulls a cable off a cliff that then hooks into Henry Cavill's head

and he falls down a mountain. So I don't think we'll see... Damn it. I don't think we'll see Agent Walker in the next movie, unfortunately. It could be revealed that it was some other guy in a mask or something. This is true. And I believe that Solomon Lane once again survives this movie as well.

So they stop this nuclear attack. The guy who doesn't want to. Please. Stop saying that to me. Am I remembering his voice? He sort of talks like that. He sort of whispers to us. I'm coming for your wife.

I don't want to see the next movie, Hunt. Please kill me off, Hunt. I don't want to see the next movie, Hunt. Please kill me off, Hunt. I don't want to come to the premiere, Hunt. His wife's back in Act 3. It's revealed that Solomon Lane, he gets away from, after the prison break,

he gets away from Hunt and the gang and they go to, I think it's India. Correct me if I'm wrong. Sorry, internet. I didn't write this part down. Amongst big mountains.

I think Kashmir is where you're going to be, Bill. Yeah, Kashmir, yeah. Which is that Pakistan? I think it's on the border because the Indian army does turn up at the end with Angela Bassett's character to the rescue, but a little bit too late because Ethan Hunt's already saved the day with Luther and Benji and Rebecca Ferguson, Ilsa Faust. They all team up to save the day.

But also Michelle Monaghan's there as well. Okay. And it was like, oh. To bring your wife to work today. No, that's why Solomon Lane chose that spot to set off the explosions, not only because it was bordering these other places, but he made a point to get Michelle Monaghan's character there because she's a hospital type worker. Like, oh, there's been a smallpox outbreak and you need to help this.

And it just happens to be on the border of all these different countries. So Solomon Lane's just like, I hate the fuck out of Ethan Hunt. I can say fuck once this episode because it's PG-13. And that was not a sexual fuck as well. I've said it too many times. But yeah, he hates him that much. He goes to this level of, I'm going to get his wife there. So he's also extra upset.

So she helps Luther defuse the bomb. Everyone is happy. The end, question mark. So we're coming to the bomb. Everyone is happy. The end, question mark. Oh. So we're coming to the end. The next movies. The first trailer has come out for Dead Reckoning Part 1. Oh, my God.

What? So just like the next Fast and the Furious movies are also going to be, I think, filmed back to back and released as a two-parter. Okay. That's what the Mission Impossible movies are also going to be i think filmed back to back and released as a two-parter okay that's what the mission impossible movies are doing so we can surmise as well that this is probably going to be the last outing for old mate ethan hunt go out with a double bang go out with a double bang and of course like covid has disrupted this so these movies already should have been out but now i think they're coming out in 2023 in July, July 2014, and then the following year in June 28.

So it's still going to be a little bit of a wait until those movies come out, which is enough time for you to catch up. Yeah, yeah. I've got plenty of time. You've really whetted our appetite. I've got enough time to catch up and then forget the films. Yeah. Which is kind of what I've done.

Yeah. Because I didn't remember Henry Cavill dying or I couldn't fully remember if he was the guy who turned bad. Okay. But I remember loving him. And I think just like you, Jess, if listeners have gotten this far and have gone, oh, is everything spoiled for me? These are experience movies.

So it's like if someone described a roller coaster to you, you wouldn't go, oh, I don't have to ride that roller coaster now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It goes like real fast and then upside down for a bit. And then you go, woo, do like a little twist. Imagine being that personality type. You'd go, well, I don't need to do that then, do I? Fine.

Yeah. Thanks for ruining that roller coaster for me. Some tiny things. So Christopher McQuarrie is coming back to film these. So like he's sort of become the guy. Hayley Atwell, Agent Carter herself. not, you know, Marvel's Agent Carter, not this film series Agent Carter has joined. No talk about whether those previous cast members, you know,

that we talked about like Paula Patton are returning, which would be like cool to have a sense that, oh, maybe this would be your team up movie where everyone sort of comes back to work together on a big mission, but it doesn't seem like that's the case, or at least maybe saving that for the Dead Reckoning Part 2. Who knows?

Tiny bit of trivia. Because I put the trivia all through the rest of the piece, this is pretty much the only trivia that I've saved for the end. George Clooney was offered the part of Ethan Hunt, but turned down to work on One Fine Day. Remember that movie? The song by Boyz II Men and Mariah Carey?

Bruce Willis, John Travolta, Nicolas Cage, Ralph Fiennes, Mel Gibson were all later considered for the part before Tom Cruise got the role. Wow. It seems like the, I mean, it's always hard to reimagine something. Travolta. Oh, it's 90s when it started, yeah. I don't think it would still be going. No, it wouldn't have gone.

I can't imagine George Clooney still getting around. Sort of like the Ocean movies. I think if they had continued, they would just be their own thing. Yeah, that's true. I guess sort of like the different directors that might have got on board, they would have just stayed with the espionage thing rather than the action thing. Yeah, you're right. I think most of these guys, it's like with the Ocean's Eleven movies, they stayed very

much in the heist movies. There's never really many guns in that, if any guns. Never any arms cocking and getting cocked and loaded. You gotta load your arms. And then the tiniest thing, I can answer that question from before, members of U2 remade the

theme song in the first movie. So there you go. And Metallica, when did they do it? Underrated tune, you remember that one? No. What was it called? Underrated tune, you remember that one? No. What was it called? I refuse to tell you. That's your mission.

Hey, hey, hey, that one. Here I go now. Oh, I did read about that. That was the one that sort of sparked that. Oh, I Disappear, it's cool. It sparked that whole issue with Napster and stuff like that as well. Yeah, that was sort of around that time when Metallica started getting real angry at internet downloads, illegal downloads. Oh, it's from Mission Impossible 2.

So that's my report on the Mission Impossible series. I reckon you probably got it just under Michelle's time too. Well done. Put it in times two speed and we'll be right. We'll get through that. Do you have a favourite of the franchise? I think Rogue Nation,

no, sorry, I think, I think for me, Ghost Protocol is my favourite because it's like, it started that new era much in the same way that Fast Five

is probably my favourite. But like, I love everything that happens in the movies to follow. Like, they almost feel like their own separate thing i re-watched all these movies for this report um and they all hold up in their own ways and they all are interesting in their own ways as well and seeing how they affect one another but yeah ghost protocol is just beautifully made it's just so so fun. That's the one.

And you could probably argue, and I'm sure there's plenty of things on the internet about this, that if you were hesitant, you probably could start with Ghost Protocol as your first Mission Impossible movie and then jump back to the first movie. Yeah, take out some of the sort of dated 90s stuff. Yeah, like that's a great way to go, oh, this is what it becomes. Just like you can start the Fast and the Furious movies with Fast Five and then go alright let's go back and then enjoy how this sort of

all comes together yeah go back to the prequels I think I might I still haven't done Fast and the Furious since we spoke to Michelle oh my god she must be furious but I'll start at five I think I started doing it I couldn't I started from the beginning and maybe I'll go again starting at five I think I started doing it I couldn't I started from the beginning

and maybe I'll go again starting at five start because it's a heist movie if you like a heist movie love a heist movie yeah love a heist love the Ocean's Eleven

they're my favourite episodes of this show big time apart from of course big franchise recaps they are a lot of fun oh my goodness well it's been an absolute thrill

to be on this show a thrill to have you oh it's been such a thrill to be on this show. A thrill to have you. Oh, it's been such a thrill to have you. Well, Marcel, thank you so much for joining us here today. Is there any way you can tell people, I've got a gun to your head, so just be careful that you could read this phrase out, which describes your social media. Yeah, thank you so much.

Will there be a countdown at the same time? I'm cocking my arms and my gun. Oh, thank you so much. Will there be a countdown at the same time? I'm cocking my arms and my gun. Oh, it's very intimidating. So you can find me at Marcel the Comedian. That's my website. That's my handle on Instagram. Sorry I phrased

this so awkwardly. Yeah, keep going. Please don't use my voice for anything. And yeah, if you're in Sydney, I do a series of comedy shows, Best Mates Comedy. And if you're everywhere else, follow me so when I come to your town, I like to travel, you can come and see me do stand-up comedy. And you bloody should. Do it.

Thanks so much for joining us. My pleasure. We're going to kick you out before we do everyone's favorite section of the show because it's for us that thing's our time and it's got nothing to do with the fact that you need to go now well now it's time for everyone's favorite section of the show where we take about 30 to 40 minutes and thank our great Patreon supporters at patreon.com slash do go on pod. But before we get in that, I probably should introduce our guest, Shane Dunlop. How do you do? I'm very well. Thanks, Matthew.

So Shane is the director of a show we're filming right now called The Beer Pioneer. I guess you're the director, but you're also the concept creator, etc. Director feels a little bit of an overstatement really anyone casually observing any random shoot day of the show would probably say director is a bit of a stretch wouldn't you say no i don't i think you're being very humble there or or or maybe you're just trying to get away from any criticism yeah once the show comes my hands My hands are off the wheel here. This is not my responsibility. So where are we now? We are in Mataranka,

specifically the Mataranka Homestead, which is somewhere in between Alice Springs and Catherine. Right. And it's got tropical. It's wintertime in Australia, but we're in shorts and thongs and the air conditioning is on. It is freaking hot outside. It is muggy, yes.

We've been down to the Natural Springs earlier today. Had a dip. It's been lovely, yeah. So having a great time. We're into the last week now. We'll be in Darwin over the next few days. And yeah, when's this show coming out? We're hoping that we'll have it ready for eyeballs around the summertime.

Hopefully this side of Christmas. What's the show's concept? Yeah, basically it's you as the host, and it's, you know, loosely a travel show, loosely a history show, loosely a comedy, and we also, with beer as the backdrop essentially. So, you know, Series 1, we visited a whole bunch of craft beer breweries because that was a lot easier to do in Victoria, where it was mostly set.

We've been going from Adelaide to Darwin, so we've had to slightly shift that a little bit to be more visiting hotels, pubs, roadhouses, that sort of thing. But that's essentially it. Yeah. Hopefully it's a fun watch.. But that's essentially it. Yeah. Hopefully it's a fun watch. It's been fun to make. Yeah.

It's been a lot of fun to make. Yeah. So, yeah, like you say, I guess if you're not a beer lover, hopefully that doesn't really matter that much. I don't think it matters, no. We do talk a little bit about beer, but even less than the first season probably. Yeah.

It's completely different to the sort of beard nerd vibe of series one. It'll still be enough for, I think, the people who like that kind of vibe. But certainly this is more, I think it's really more just a travel show starring Matt Stewart, essentially. Wowdy hell, that sounds pretty good. I'd watch that. No, I probably would not. But do you want to do the fact, quote, or question jingle? I won't be doing that, Matt.

Okay, great. Look, I'll have a go i've heard it enough for fact quote or question ding he always remembers the ding anyway so in this part of the show shane fact quote or question section uh some of our supporters have written in with questions suggestions facts you probably figured that out yeah from the From the name of the segment. And I'm going to read them out now. The first one comes from Shannon Burns. Can only assume. Burnsy.

Burnsy from the Cats. Shannon Burns still play for the Cats? I don't know. Anyway, they also get to give themselves a title. And Shannon's got the title of Slightly Sarcastic and Passive-Aggressive Customer Service Rep. Awesome. All right, Shannon. title and shannon's got the title of slightly sarcastic and passive aggressive customer service rep awesome all right shannon looking forward to your question here shannon writes hey matt dave and jess you're dave and jess today okay thanks for consistently making

informative and entertaining shows i mean that's a pretty big compliment no well thank you for yeah thank you i always feel good reading out uh compliments to me and i always feel very comfortable with it uh i have a question for you what is the weirdest or most random coincidence that has happened to you and i always ask the question asker to give an answer it's fine i reckon this question's come up before but anyway here's shannon's answer i was walking on a nature path in my town playing pokemon go okay while listening to your super bowl episode oh that means that that was you you're playing pokemon go still and i love that about you shannon some people you know thought that was a bit of a fad from five years

ago i'm with you okay let's keep. I haven't even started playing it yet. That's how far behind I am, but I want to. I reckon, you know, I think Shannon wrote in this question a couple of months ago and it got cut off halfway. So it was leaving us hanging on this anecdote. So I can't wait to hear the end of it. All right. So Shannon, walking along, playing playing pokemon go listening to the super bowl

episode and then uh i mentioned that during one halftime show the main entertainment was a frisbee catching dog named ashley whip it then less than a minute later shannon walked past a pokemon gym and decided to look at the players who had Pokemon there. One of the players was called, I kid you not, Ashley Whippets. Whoa. It was so weird and mildly freaky that I had to tell a couple of friends about it who were similarly weirded out. That is, I mean, I don't think I've heard of a Nisha coincidence.

Well, what's a pokemon gym i wish i wish the two nerds of the show were here because they would have been able to explain it dave and jess massive pokemon i shouldn't say nerds fans fans they're gym pokemon gym junkies right yeah uh but i think not like us we're just sort of weightlifting, pumping iron, how much you bench. That sort of is a lot of the small talk we make. Yeah. But I think what they are is- You train? You go and train?

Maybe you go, you train your monsters there, your pocket monsters. Are they monsters? A Pokemon. Yeah. Oh, okay. I learned that from Dave. Oh, right. I think Pikachu's one of them.

Right. Mewtwo is one of them as well. The band. Mewtwo. Oh, Mewtwo. Oh, yeah, sorry. You were thinking of Pono and the Boys. The Edge.

They're not involved. Okay. The other two. Larry and Greg. No, what's the... Larry. Yeah, Larry Mullins Jr. And what's the fourth one?

It's not Greg. That poor bastard. I want it to be Greg. You too. Adam. Yes, Adam Clayins Jr. And what's the fourth one? It's not Greg. That poor bastard. I want it to be Greg. You too. Adam. Yes, Adam Clayton. There we go. You're right.

Are you talking you too to me? I wish. That is a wild coincidence, Shannon. I'm glad we finally got to the bottom of it. I've been sitting on the edge of my seat for the last few months waiting for that stunning conclusion coincidences do you have any

well this is in my entire life or more recently yeah both or either I'll go with the more recent one that occurred on this trip on this very trip we were always planning on coming to Mataranka Homestead for a scheduled day off.

That doesn't count as a coincidence. No. We were planning to be here and now we're here. That's it. There needs to be a second. No, there is more. Oh, there is a second. Okay.

And simultaneously to that plan being made, I'd been talking to a man who claims to be, and I think is,, let's say he's not, that might sound like as if it's a- You're doubting him. Yeah, a ridiculous claim. No, he is probably. Probably, you're still putting him to doubt. Well, I haven't fact-checked it. I need to do some more research. Australia's premier whip-cracking entertainer.

Are you talking about Whippy? Nathan Whippy Griggs, the very one and the same. And I thought it would be fun to have Nathan or Whippy step you through some good old-fashioned whip-cracking exercises as part of the show. So we were exchanging information, logistical bits and pieces. And he said, well, I'm going to be in Mataranka on the 7th. If you're in town, let's do something. I said, crazy, we're be in Mataranka on the 7th. If you're in town, let's do something.

I said, crazy. We're rolling into Mataranka on the 7th. And he said, well, come and see me. I'll be playing here. And as it turned out, that's the exact same place that we booked that accommodation. So we didn't book. I assumed we booked to be here when he was going to be here. No.

Oh, wow. We booked here and then Whippy came along and coincidentally was playing or whipping only several meters from where we were going to be sleeping. You know, I was just about to say this is not quite at the same level as the Ashley Whippet coincidence. Holy shit. Yeah. The coincidence that Shannon talked about is about a dog called a Whippet.

Yep. Your coincidence is about a man called Whippy. Yep. Is this also a coincidence? I talked about is about a dog called a whippet. Yep. Your coincidence is about a man called Whippy. Yep. Is this also a coincidence? I think it is. I think we've just had a coincidence collision. Yeah, which- Whoa.

Has blown my mind. That has blown my mind. I'm going to take a sip and take a deep breath. What a- Whippy. It was fun. I got to be- I got called up into the show.

He whipped around me for a bit. Yeah. He whipped for an hour hour it was a long show it was a long whipping a lot of cracking festivity he's in

he's in the official I mean probably we haven't checked this either but he told us and he said in the show that he's in the Guinness World Book of Records

three times I believe which is a one of the favourite books of the show the most cracks in with one whip yeah favourite books of the show. The most cracks with one whip. Yeah, one-handed crack. The most two whips.

Most cracks with two whips per minute. And also the longest whip. He built. A hundred metre whip. He made the longest whip of all time. It's in the kiosk if you want to go and have a look. And I do want to go and have a look at it. And I think to legitimise it, it had to be whipped whipped so he had to whip this hundred meter whip i know it's at the end of

the show we he took us into the car park and uh yeah sort of in a shady corner of this uh resort yeah i was uh being taught how to whip it at like 10 o'clock at night 11 o'clock can we talk about what what how it ended with you and Whippy? If you want to. Who's this going out to? Whippy's not going to hear it. Is Whippy going to hear it? I mean, if Whippy makes it this far into the episode, most of our listeners don't.

You were very... You wanted a photo with Whippy at the end of it. We'd had a fun time with him. Perhaps we were over extending the welcome. Yeah. And when I took a photo of the two of you, you, I think, wanted to... You requested somebody else take a photo

because they'd been taking... Another member of the crew's got a great phone. So, I called him over and Whippy said, nah, that's enough for me, boys. Yeah, I'm done, fellas. Yeah. Just, like, didn't want to have anything more to do with it. Yeah, that's right.

He said, I'm going to the bar. So, he's like, I thought. Ended on a real sour. It was. It was an unfortunate end to what was before that. A pretty fun time. A whip cracking good time. It was a whip cracking.

I thought when the whips were cracking, he'd be there. But it turns out he wouldn't. No. No, no. It was a lot of fun. Deep down, I kind of respected it. I kind of respected it. But I mean, I also enjoy meeting people.

And being polite. Being polite. All right, man, I'm done. No, seriously, man, I'm done. No, good on him. Good on you, Whippy. All right, well, thank you so much, Shannon Burns, for that whip-cracking fact or question.

Do you insert sound effects? Because you're really shit. If you can do a live one, that would be great. Thank you. The next one comes from detective herbert covington uh i've just lost him he aka retired push-up specialist due to being shit at push-ups yeah you will retire from something like that if you're not good at the thing uh the good detective has a suggestion which reads like this hey gang hopefully this fact quote or question finds you well i should say uh the other two jess is in melbourne having a great time having a few weeks off dave is currently in morocco i believe i saw

that i saw he's somewhere to do with the set of the mummy? Yeah, that's right. And he's a big mummy head, so... Is that the official term? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Big mummy head, so... It's good to see photos, because I think in recent weeks, and maybe in some of the episodes we've recorded for coming weeks,

we weren't sure if he was alive. But we did wish him all the best. So, anyway... The great detective says that he hopes he finds us well, full of pies, beers and coffee abundant. I have a suggestion. A song from a video game called Persona 5 Strikers called Rivers in the Desert by Lin.

Wow. Are we in the desert still? Because we were swimming in a desert river just before. I believe it's an arid zone. Okay. I've just heard that a lot on this trip and I like saying it. Yeah, an arid zone is better than desert. I also learnt a tip at one of the desert pubs we were in

when the chef was about to bring over dessert. Yeah. And he said, what was the... SS, double S is sweet stuff sweet stuff so that's how you know it's for dessert yeah ss double s sweet stuff it was a game changer that was a big game and i reckon we've changed some games for the people at home right now as well uh do you know are you familiar with the rivers in the desert by lynn uh it's a video game no it's a song in a video game oh well definitely i don't know well we will check it out in the desert by lynn uh it's a video game no it's a song in a video game oh well definitely

i don't know well we will check it out in the van we've been pumping the tunes in the van so we'll get that on there tomorrow uh the message continues all of the tracks on the album are great ranging from absolute headbangers to groovy ones you could vibe to on a train. What about a road train? Because we're seeing a lot of those out here. But the guitar riff that this track opens with instantly made me think of Matt and Sam. Big Listen Now vibes. Rest in peace.

I should say, Detective, Listen Now will come back. The Stupid Ol' Studio is going to be ready to go, I think, when we finish filming Beer Pioneer, and I'm going to hopefully catch up with Sam to finish Season 2. Anyway, I suggest we should check it out, and we will do. We'll check that out after...

I'll play it in the van tomorrow. Let's play it at... I think you're going to be driving us to Catherine. Oh, great. Let's start the day tomorrow with you playing that. With that album. That sounds fantastic. Great tip.

Thank you very much, great. Let's start the day tomorrow with you playing that. That sounds fantastic. Great tip. Thank you very much, Detective. Funnily enough, Shane thought Cold Chisel was a little screamy. No, in the fifth hour of a five-hour journey, you don't need screaming. You did make it through about an hour of Barnsley screaming over the hillside. I needed the energy that he was providing, but then there's a tipping point where it becomes too much uh thank you detective the next one comes from jess green

aka collector of fine matching tracksuit sets oh jess if you have any spares i'd love to get involved a matching tracksuit i never thought i was i had the you know the confidence to pull it off but i don't i'm getting the point where i don't care anymore yeah uh jess has a fact writing i'm not sure if this is a fact which is a strong start for a fact i think uh this sounds like how you'd present a fact yeah you did that just earlier i'm not sure if this is a fact but it's definitely interesting i am a new listener to the pod shout out to sammy p from the confessions of the idiot podcast for the recommendation but it's definitely interesting. I am a new listener to the pod. Shout out to Sammy P from the Confessions of the Idiot podcast for the recommendation, slash all the funny episodes you three have been on.

You're a friend of Sammy P. Love Sammy P. So, welcome to the show, Jess. That's very cool. And thanks, Sammy, for sending Jess over. Jess continues, I've recently gone back and listened to the Trump family mystery episode. Oh, my God.

There's a weird coincidence here because I remember vividly that in that episode we talked about Pokemon Go. Whoa. Trump family? Trump. Trump. So you'd vaguely remember it. It was about five years ago. This family in Victoria just hit the road they left their whole life behind and no one no one in the family seemed

to know why it was like they're on the run but they didn't know why right and this it's just sort of this episode and they kept splitting off from each other are they one of them one of the daughters ended up in the back of this guy just climbed into this guy's ute and he was driving through outside of uh gulben and he looked around like oh who's that it was a really strange story anyway okay um so jess has just listened that episode uh and continues by saying uh they where they lived is very very close to where my partner grew up and lived until he was 18 so i asked him if he'd heard of the story he said nah doesn't ring a bell so i proceed to tell him the story he cuts me off about 10 seconds in and

says oh yeah i know this story i knew them i went to school with them i went to their house a few times you know the trump family this big story story? Nah, never heard of it. Well, anyway, the Trump family... Maybe the Trumps. But it could have been... I mean, when you first said it, I heard Trump. Right. And if you had have asked me, do I know the Trump family?

I would have said no. But if you were from their town... And then you start telling the story of the Trump family. But he was from that town. I know, but, you know, it can happen. I mean, it can happen. It can happen if you're not careful. So, I'm just saying, be careful out there. You know what it can happen. I mean, it can happen. It can happen if you're not careful. So I'm just saying, be careful out there.

You know what I mean? A lot of people are going around going, I hear Trump, I hear Trump. It doesn't matter. It does matter. It does matter. Listen carefully. Hey, just stay vigilant. Anyway, so Jess says, excited for the potential inside knowledge.

All he could say was that they seemed nice and normal and nothing seemed off unfortunately this is still a mystery episode although he did say that their table wasn't covered with passports cards etc when he was there so when the house was found their whole life was just sort of neatly piled they left their passports credit cards they didn't take anything with them so it's very strange are they did they ever get found yeah they did one by one they got found and and they never explained basically just snapped out of it whatever it was really really strange but that's wow that would have given me chills jess if i had that interaction with your partner, which is pretty unlikely. I don't know the man. So, oh, Jess finishes with a little question here.

Have you had any weird connections to any of the reports you've done? I'm trying to think. I don't. I mean, I did a bonus episode about Tony Plugger Lockett, and I watched him play a bunch of games. It's a pretty loose connection. No, I don't think I've been directly connected to any episodes. Sorry, Jess.

But I think, yeah, you'd trump me anyway. Certainly never that close. You would have trumped me anyway. It's a very easy mistake to make. Dave calls me the pun king, i i don't see him they're right in front of me i never see him right right dave's the pun master okay that was right there i can't how did i miss that well anyway that's why i'm here that's why you're filling in for dave the pun master and jess yeah uh final fact quota question comes from Bracken Markins.

Fantastic name, Bracken. Yeah. Bracken has given themselves the title of Chief Marketing Officer of the Give Your Kids Normal Names Society. I mean, Bracken, we were just saying how much we loved it. I think, I mean, you know, I live in the very opposite camp of, please, please give your kids some slightly interesting names. Matt Stewart is very boring.

And there's hundreds of Matt Stewart's in the club with me. Bracken has a fact writing Shane Dunlop also. I reckon it's a couple of rungs above Matt Stewart for interest, but it's still relatively plain. There are no shanes under the age of uh 40 that's true shane is an old man's name yeah it's becoming so oh shane's dying off yeah they're ready for a comeback i think yeah i reckon ready for a little a little bounce maybe maybe your appearance this will start a question section well i like i like bracken i reckon bracken's fantastic

brack brack bracksy i'm into it yeah remember there was the old uh australian fast bowler nathan bracken that was a surname yeah okay but as a first name even better yeah uh bracken writes comedy is old this is a fact and there's no doubt no doubt in bracken's mind about this no qualifiers the first known example of a quote walks into a bar joke is written in sumerian from suma or is that sumer or summer suma yeah uh the world's first civilization 4500 to 1900 BC. It reads, a dog walked into a tavern and said, I can't see a thing. I'll open this one. Something, it seems, may have been lost in translation.

I'm like, oh man, I don't get it. But apparently it is, maybe it's not that gettable. A dog walked into a tavern and said, I can't see a thing. I'll open this one uh thank you so much to brack and jess herbert and shannon next thing we like to do shane don't think this is over yet the next thing we like to do is is thank a few of our other great supporters from the last little while.

Normally Jess comes up with a little game related to the topic. So the episode that we're coming in at the end of now was the history of the Mission Impossible franchise. Okay. And, yeah, so I was thinking maybe, and we're on the Beer Pioneer shoot, so maybe for each name I read out, you can give them a Tom Cruise role or film and pair that with a beer. So, you know, oh, I'm watching Top Gun.

Oh, yeah. I mean, don't use that one. No. But I'm going to pair that with a can of Melbourne bitter, but you've got to that with a you know a can of melbourne bitter but you gotta shotgun it you know right poke a hole okay you know what i mean or whatever you can take it wherever you want to go yep yep yep all right so first up i'd love to thank from oh location unknown we can only assume is it one of the one of the uh tromps it could be one of the tromps they're very shady yeah i was gonna say slimy yeah but i don't know It could be one of the tromps. They're very shady. I was going to say

slimy. Yeah. But I don't know. Could be. Very slippery. But we can only assume coming from deep within the fortress of the mole. And I for one would like to welcome our future mole overlords.

You realise as you're talking to someone who doesn't listen to the show how bizarre a lot of this must sound? Anyway, I'd love to thank Chloe Button. What's Chloe Button? What's her Tom Cruise film? What beer are they pairing it with? Okay.

Great name right off the bat. Yeah. As all our listeners. Right. Beautifully named people. I'm going to say not their value Chloe Button

it's a it's a lovely name I'm going to go with Far and Away oh yes I believe the film with Nicole Kidman Nicole Kidman

and Tom Cruise I remember watching this a long time ago the basic gist of it is that whatever country he's a bare knuckled boxer isn't he oh i don't remember all i remember is it was a race and it you could go grab your own patch of land if you got there

first you got to claim it yeah they were irish right was it in ireland or are they coming to america or something possibly yeah it was an old timey yeah uh i just Was Tom Cruise pulling off an Irish accent? He might have been. Or he might have just been doing his accent. Like he did in that Nazi movie. Yeah. It's been a while since I watched it. But I've picked that movie for unknown reasons. And I'm going to pair that with, because it's a bit old timey,

I'm going to pair that with a wheat ale. A wheat ale? Yeah. Yeah, right. It feels like, yeah, maybe they, in the film, they probably grow wheat. Yeah. Something sort of very old-timey. Yeah.

Stout even. Yeah. Well, they're Irish, right? Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. That's caught in your vague memory. Yeah.

I think so. I think maybe i just remember bare knuckle boxing bare knuckle boxing i remember yeah i remember that there was like a shotgun start everyone's shirtless and and there was a penny farthing in the race against all these horse and carts and the penny farthing did not do well yeah i might be making up that memory yeah that doesn't ring any bells no thank you so much, Chloe. The next one comes from Tacoma in Washington in the United States. Maybe people who've got their addresses down might help you with a beer selection or a movie choice. Yeah, okay.

From Tacoma in Washington, it's Marcus Motar. Marcus Motar. That's another great name. I'm telling you, they're all great names, Shane. Yeah, okay. They're also all very hot. Not their value, but everyone who listens to this show, especially the supporters on Patreon, hot, beautiful people.

Marcus Motar. I'm going to use the name for inspiration and go with Days of Thunder. Yeah. Is that Ricky Bobby? No, that's the parody one. Yeah. No, I forget his name in that. Cold Thunder?

Cold Trickle. Yeah, I think you're right, which is a ridiculous name. And I think it's also the movie where he met and fell in love with Nicole Kid. Oh, you've gone back to back Tom and Nicole. I feel it's a classic. Eyes Wide Shut. You're right.

That's the trilogy. The Tom Cat trilogy. Yeah. What's her name? Tom Kid. Yeah. And I think with this, I Yeah. What's her name? Tomkid. Yeah. And I think with this, I'm going to go with one of the, I'll let you pick which one, but I'm going to go with the Sierra Nevada.

Oh, yeah. What would you choose from there? Oh, their classic pale. Yeah. That feels like a good combo. Yeah, that's a great combo. And that's a beer that people say really started this most recent craft beer boom. Yeah.

For a lot of people um i just realized that another coincidence that this tom cruise based episodes just come out and uh last week we went to a tom cruise museum a different tom cruise at the uh mar marie marie hotel there was a Tom Cruise museum Was there? You didn't go in there? I think it was Phil I was putting petrol in the camper Oh okay right

That's the fun I didn't hear about this Yeah it's spelt with a Z But he was a He was like a He was a bit of an explorer As well Okay

Did we film it? Yeah we filmed me wandering around Excellent Yeah So the Coincidence is coming out of the freaking wazoo today. Yeah. Thank you, Marcos.

Next one comes from Sydney. Wait, this says Sydney in the ACT. Is there a little Sydney in ACT? Anyway, from Sydney in the ACT in Australia, Clancy Greening. Another great name. I mean, we probably can stop saying it because they're all great, but freaking hell, the quality is high today.

Yeah. Love it. Right. Is there more facts before I pick? No. Clancy. Okay. Because it doesn't sound like Clancy.

Clancy might be the opposite of a name that I would suggest would be a risk taker. Oh, yeah. I could be wrong. Maybe in some sort of business. Yeah. So, I'm going to go with just because, yeah, just because of that, I'm going to go with Risky Business.

And... A movie, I've never seen it, but a movie I assume is... Does not stand up to modern... In jocks. Yeah, well, that's, yeah. And sliding a movie I assume is Tom Cruise in jocks. Yeah, well, that's, yeah. And sliding on socks. Is that the whole film? No. It's not all sliding around on socks?

It's actually quite terrible. His parents go away. Bob Seger playing in the background? Yeah, and he turns his house basically into a brothel. Okay. Yeah, for like a weekend. And then he like wrecks his he drives his parents car into a river and that is risky business yeah they're not mucking around uh what a concept yeah and and just

i guess with that uh then we'll go back to not taking any risks and we'll have a non-alcoholic uh refreshing um refreshingly what is it? Heaps Normal. Oh, Heaps Normal. Yeah. So we'll go with a non-risky sounding name, risky business. The Heaps Normal, the XPA? Yeah, I reckon. Oh, delicious non-alcoholic beer.

I don't know if that was logical at all, but go with me. I think it's perfect logic. I'm with you all the way. But, you know, I was sent, I remember being in one of the lockdowns, I was sent a box of beer, which I think it maybe got sent to the Shibbol Shijis or something. And I, for whatever reason, I only found it last month and I opened it up and it was like an original,

like a test version of Heaps normal right just to i was sending me to sample because of the show because of you i think because of the show yeah wow and i'm like oh shit holy shit that's become a booming business yeah hopefully that i i didn't i didn't see if there was a letter in there but it'd be funny there's a letter in there hey if you want you can have some shares in this company. Yeah. It'd be worth a fortune now. But yeah, great non-alcoholic beer. Next person, again, comes from Address Unknown,

assumed from deep within the fortress of the moles, Mary DeGroot. Okay. I mean, I feel like- We're now going to say every time now. I know, because I mean- Great name. say every time now i know because i mean great name yeah great that is obviously a great name yes it is yeah mary de groot yeah holy shit anything in front is always groot yeah i mean i take that any any which way you know groot groot to mary

yeah the mary group groot mary do you know any i think any but i think you know Annie I think Annie but I think you know I think it's in the perfect order as is yep so what what is

what's Mary watching what's Mary drinking yeah okay you running out of cruise no no I'm just kind of I'm really sort of

going through the back catalogue as I it's good you're here because Dave hates Tom Cruise really yeah he can't stand him I'm a big fan I've come around yeah I've come right around yeah going through the back catalogue as I... It's good you're here because Dave hates Tom Cruise. Really? Yeah, he can't stand him.

I'm a big fan. I've come around a little bit. Yeah, I've come right around as well. I'm going to go with... All right, I'm going to try something here. So, I'm going to go with Vanilla Sky. Okay. Because beers, you can get some sort of vanilla-y notes in beers these days. Or they try to sort of do that sort of strong flavoured beers.

Help me out with something here, man. I'll go and Google it. Vanilla beer. Yeah. Just something... Well, something that's got that sort of flavour note to it. Yeah, what's a... I'm blanking.

We had a... As part of this show, we went to the big shed and they do the Quiet Deeds Vanilla Porter there we go that's my favourite brewery probably yeah

and I'd really love you to work our show down back into Melbourne yeah I've never visited but I do love I mean I've got a lot of favourite brewers

but they're definitely one of them yeah that's what I was thinking just something a vanilla porter well something that's got that sort of vibe going on

so we obviously went to a place that does a stout based on the Golden Gaytime ice cream. Oh, yeah. That's what I was thinking. Big Shed Brewery. That kind of ice cream, you know, the creamy sort of stouty porter vibe.

That was a dessert stout, that one. Yeah. It was the Golden Stout Time. And I think with... Was it Mary? Mary, yeah. Mary DeGroot. It just feels like a a flavorful

uh package the next one i think i'm going to break my own rule of not going over 40 minutes today because we have been having such a good time here shane sorry matt no i i'm not blaming you in any way uh and people can just stop listening yeah that's the thing i don't understand about the people who complain about... No, stay to the end. They complain about this section going too long. Yeah, right. There's a stop button.

Yeah, yeah. Move on with your life. It's very hard to do that, though. Don't hate listen. You've got to see it through. Now, talking about good names, this can't be on the birth certificate, but let's see. From Roseville in Minnesota in the United States, it's not a cat.

Okay. That's a name? That's the name. To me, this is a cat being defensive, right? Certainly not a cat, if that's what you're thinking. That's what I would name myself if I was a cat who was trying to make people think I wasn't a cat, which I assume is probably what they're going for.

So, not a cat. What are you going to think of? Catish beers? It's tough. What about a movie? Did he play Cat in a Hat? No. That was Mike Myers.

Can you imagine Tom Cruise in such a role? No. Yes. I'm trying to think of a Tom Cruise sort of... I don't even think he's voiced any animated animals. I could be wrong here. So instead, I think I'm going to go... Wow, gosh.

This is tricky. What about... Did he ever do a movie with his ex-wife Cat, whatever her name was? Because wasn't he in a Tom Cat relationship at one point? I'm thinking of something else. No. Katie Holmes.

Yeah. Were they called Tomcat? I think so, yeah. Okay. That feels like a distant memory. What do we got? I'm just going to quick Google here. I don't think that.

Were they in a movie together? They were in Going Clear, Scientology, and the Prison of Belief. Okay. Well, I feel like perhaps that might work in this instance because we don't have a lot of information to go on with the name. Yeah. Apart from them not being a cat. Not being a cat.

And the only cat sort of related beer is, what, you know, Tiger. Oh, yeah, great. Yeah. But then she's saying not a cat. I think it's Malaysia. Malaysia. I think. Yeah, yeah, great. Yeah. But then she's saying not a cat. I think it's Malaysia. Malaysia. I think. Yeah, I think you're right.

But she's, or he, or they, are saying that they are not a cat. Not a cat. So maybe we shouldn't go with that. No, they wouldn't want a tiger. No. They wouldn't want a tiger. So what's the opposite of a cat? A dog.

Is there a dog? Yeah. A dog beer? Moondog. Moondog. So let's go with a Moondog. Melbourne. And last time I was at Moondog. Moondog. So let's go with a Moondog. Melbourne. And last time I was at Moondog, I enjoyed their alcoholic ginger beer.

Oh, I love a ginger beer. So I'm going to lay that one on and pair that with the Scientology movie. A fantastic choice and a beautiful night. Refreshing, if anything. Yeah, not a cat's going to have a lovely time. Yeah. Thank you, not a cat. Next one comes from Cambridge in Great Britain,

which is that big uni town, isn't it, Cambridge? I think so. Vicky H. Ooh. Or Vicky H, depending on... Yeah, okay. Vic. Where you're from.

Yeah. Vicky H. All right. I'm thinking Minority Report. Oh, yeah. And I'm thinking... I started watching that recently. I haven't Minority Report. Oh, yeah. And I'm thinking... I started watching that recently. I haven't seen it before.

I'm thinking of a long, hard day filming a beer-related TV show. So you want a lawnmower-type beer? You've hopped yourself... That's right. You've hopped yourself into a thermal pool. Yes. Like you're one of those brains. Like they did in Minority Report.

The ones who see the future. And you've got yourself a refreshing lager. Oh, yeah. Just to wash the day down. Maybe the Coober Pedy lager? Coober Pedy, Big Shed, Colab. Colab. I reckon that's the go.

Yeah, I think that's a great idea. A nice warm bath. Yep. And a nice cold beer. Perfect. Bloody rip-off. And seeing murders before they happen. Bloody unreal.

Thank you, Vicky. Next one comes from another address unknown. Kate Rue. R-double-O. Kate Rue. Okay. So, I'm thinking, you know, has he done any movies set in Australia? Well, I think The Mission Impossible.

That's by Sean Connery. I believe it wasn't the third in the franchise film. Well, I think The Mission Impossible. That's by Sean Connery. I believe it wasn't the third in the franchise film. Yeah, one of the worst ones. The only one that everyone seems to think was shit. Yeah. Didn't it have Philip Seymour Hoffman in that? Oh, mine. He's great.

Two out of four. Also, what's the guy that plays Rake? Great Aussie actor. Yeah. He was in it. Yeah. Was Phelpsie in it? Oh oh phelpsie should have been in it if not why not yeah gary sweet oh gary sweet's got to be there somewhere um tony martin yeah the other tony the other time not yeah how many great tony i really don't know if there is an Australian Tom Cruise movie. I bet you there has to be.

So I'm not going to say any of those. I'm going to go with... Oh, gosh, it's starting to get a little bit tricky. So what do you think? What about the recent Maverick one? No. So, where are we? We've got the last one here.

Katie Drew. I mean, Rue, Qantas. Yeah. Rain Man. The famous Qantas scene. Thank you for the assist there. I'm not going to fly via Melbourne. Yeah.

You've done it. The flying kangaroo. You've connected the dots. And I think you're... Then go for a beer now that you would order on a plane. Oh, yeah. So an international, one of your classic international beers. Yeah, I'm picturing a Heineken or a Carlsberg or something. One of those green bottles that tastes like...

And a smaller... Sort of tastes like wet coins, those beers. Yeah, but in a smaller... Similar to the can I've got in front of me now, a small travel can that really makes, you know, whenever you have one of those travel cans, you know you're travelling, you know you're going somewhere fun. And those beers, I don't know, they all taste slightly weird,

but I still like that taste. Yep, yep. At times. Can't drink it too much. No. Thank you, Kate Rue. yeah yeah at times can't drink it too much no uh thank you kate rue next one comes from matt cosby from rock mart in georgia in the united states great got a bit to work with there rock mart georgia yeah matt cosby united states home of hollywood yeah a lot of movies in hollywood i

reckon yeah in which case um and I'm not sure, it may have been filmed in this general area. I'm not sure. Some of it, at least. I'm going to go with Tropic Thunder. Oh, yes. Wasn't there an Australian in that? I think maybe the guy with Junior at the end of his name

played an Australian. Robert Downey Jr. Yeah, controversial character work, I think. But, yeah, so we're going Tropic Thunder. We're going to go with a tropical flavoured sour. So something like a passion fruit sour. Oh, yeah. Maybe like the passion fruit goes from Brisbane.

Yeah. Or we could go with a season one thing and go with a passion fruit sour from Tubase. Oh, yeah. Great choice. Which was gluten-free. Gluten-free brewery. Yeah.

They're now doing a stout. Yeah. I've never heard of a gluten-free stout before. Well. They must be close to leading the world in gluten free beers yeah I'd tell you I ended up

going back there to do a gig no with Richard yeah it was a pretty fun time had a few bloody gluten free beers and they were delicious gluten free beers

okay finally I'd love to thank from Kelvin Grove in Queensland, Australia. Flick French. The names do not stop. Flick French. Flick French.

Sounds like an ace pilot from World War II. It does. Yeah. Okay. I'm really trying to find something here, and I must admit I'm starting to get to the fringes of my Tom Cruise back catalogue. Because he made a lot of films. He's made thousands of them.

But how do we connect Flick French to a Tom Cruise classic? I'll just say he did Cocktail with Brian Brown. Yeah, that's... American. I've got it. I'm going to go with something a little bit different. Maybe not a beer. We're going to go with something a little bit different maybe not a beer we're going to go with cocktail oh yes uh and brian brown my favorite color of course we will have a french martini oh

shaking not struck yeah just to just to just to top it off move away from the beers yeah a bit of a nightcap have a nightcap because this is the Because this is the last one you've got to come up with. Yeah. Thank you. A fantastic combination there. Flick French with a French martini. For the French martini. Thank you so much to Flick, Matt, Kate, Vicky, Not A Cat, Mary, Clancy, Marcus, and Chloe.

And the last thing, Shane, we like to do is welcome a few people into the Triptych Club. These are supporters who have been with us for three straight years at the shout-out level or above. And the way we thank them is there's a multitude of ways. Once you're in, it's a one-way ticket. You're not allowed to leave even if you wanted to. Oh, goodness. It's a one-way ticket. You're not allowed to leave even if you wanted to. Oh.

Goodness. So, normally, Jess would come up with a cocktail based on the topic. I mean, maybe we could just serve everyone tonight. Maybe we could get the French martinis. Yeah. Okay. Right. I think that makes sense. Maybe even the bar includes all nine of the drinks you've just suggested.

Yeah. Dave also books a band. Okay. Often coincidentally has something to do with the topic. Not always. Okay. So what band do you got playing the after party tonight at the Triptych Club? Has Tom Cruise ever done?

He's not really, he's not one of those actors. No, he's not a piano or a Johnny Depp. But I kind of feel like he'd appreciate that. So yeah, let's go with a piano. Was it Dogstar? Dogstar. Yeah. Maybe supported by 10-odd foot of grunt or whatever. like you'd appreciate that so yeah let's go with a county was it dog star dog star yeah maybe supported by uh 10 odd foot of grunt or whatever yeah 30 odd foot 30 odd foot of grass i don't want to sell russell's short there and uh there's got to be more uh kevin we'll get kevin costner he had a band he's still he's still out doing gigs no kidding yeah um a bit of country and western uh zoe deschanel yeah yeah yeah

i think that would actually go down a storm maybe maybe one of in reverse we could have huey lewis who did a little bit of acting but more famous for the news or without the news yeah maybe with that gwyneth paltrow yeah that's a duet now that's a that's a playlist category that you could get around. Yeah, we've got to get that going in the van tomorrow. Musicians who've become actors or done some acting and vice versa. Vice versa, I love that. I reckon we'll get that going for the trip tomorrow.

All right, so we've got six people inducted here. And, Shane, your work is not done. This is intense. What Dave, the pun master would normally do here is i read out the name you're basically on stage this is sort of theater of the mind you're on the stage in the triptych club i'm on the door i'm the bouncer i've got the the clipboard i've got the door list i'm telling a lot of people not in those shoes sorry mate there's a guest list tonight that sort of stuff but these six names are on the list i'm going to

read them out lift up the velvet rope welcome them in as i say the name then dave normally you know you're the mc you're hyping them up and everyone is already inducted and is being held sort of against their will they're applauding and cheering okay uh he would normally work with like what i would call a really weak pun based on their name or or where they're from okay but you don't have to do that you can just hype them up in any way you like. Okay. There's no bad answers here. And you certainly could not do it any worse than Dave.

Okay. Let's see. Let's just lay in the boots. I do this when he's here as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little joke I do. I pretend he's doing a worse job than he is. Okay.

Because he's obviously fantastic. He's a pun master. No, I love him. All right. So six names. You ready to go? We keep the pace up. I'll just hit you with them. Let's a pun master. No, I love him. All right. So six names. You ready to go? We keep the pace up. I'll just hit you with them.

Let's go. Let's go. First thoughts come out. All right. From Location Unknown, it's Vivian Zhang. The Zhangermeister. Oh, welcome in from Mount Waverley in Victoria, Australia. It's Kate Doherty.

Doherty, Doherty, Doherty. From Mattingly in Victoria, Australia, it's allison ramsey the rambona from orlando florida in the united states it is candace suda su su su dia from fisher in the australian capital territory it's hannah white whitey and And from Indianapolis in Indiana, not too far from the God's country, greatest city in the world, Gary, Indiana. It's Steve Baker.

Baker boy! Welcome in Steve, Hannah, Candice, Alison, Kate and Vivian. Make yourselves at home. Grab one of the nine drinks on offer. Enjoy the little music festival that's coming up shane thanks so much for joining us uh and helping me i was going to be doing that by myself so i really appreciate you sitting in the sidecar well yeah it's a real pleasure i've sweated through this t-shirt yes

i say you're in the sidecar i really put you in the driver's seat for most of that and you did all of the hard work i really do appreciate that very much um people please do check out the beer pioneer when it comes out season one's still out there. Yeah, you can get it in a variety of places. Of course, the stupid old YouTube channel. It's on CTV+. It still pops up on a couple of different stations around the country and Apple TV and Amazon Prime.

It's also available there. Yeah, so, you know, good luck trying to find a place that doesn't have it. That's right. So season one, that was like eight eps, I think. Yeah, around that. Good fun. And, yeah, the next season's going to be even more good fun. A whip-cracking good time.

Yeah, if you want to check out Whippy's work, I mean, get ready for season two. What an interview. I really thought, I think I got to the heart of what makes him tick, Whippy. All right. Thanks for joining us. And then Jess always says bye right at the end. Okay, so I'll say, I'll say laters. Makes him tick. Whippy. All right. Thanks for joining us. And then Jess always says bye right at the end. Okay, so I'll say laters.

Bye. Bye. What fillings do you want to be? Like really yummy ones. I'm avocado. Yeah. I'd be like a, I reckon I'm lettuce because I'm crunchy. This is the sandwich. It's just avocado and lettuce.

No, no, no. I'm also cheese. Yeah, he's cheese. Okay, there's a protein. That's good. I'm a chutney. Okay. What are we talking about?

Spicy chutney? It's got a bit of a kick to it, but it's good. I'm a chutney. Okay. What are we talking about? Spicy chutney? It's got a bit of a kick to it, but it's not going to burn your face off. Some chutneys have raisins in it, which I'm against. No, no, no. I'm a raisinless chutney. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I don't like raisins full stop. Me neither.

Why does every baked good have to have a raisin in it? Yeah. Somehow I forgive it in a bun, but ideally still, no raisins. Especially in savory foods, get rid of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you saying like in a sweet bun Especially in savoury foods, get rid of it. Are you saying like in a sweet bun? And also in sweet things, get rid of it. You can go to Baker's Delight and go, I'll have the apple and custard scroll

and they're like, great, and then it also has raisins. Excuse me, why wasn't that in the title? Yeah, yeah. It's because it's a filler. I wanted apple and custard. That's what I wanted. Because if you go, oh, you have fruitless then. So there isn't a middle ground you're either with raisins

or you're without raisins you can't go well can't I just have a fruit no you have to line up with all the just custard people yeah get rid of the raisins but then I like Sultana brand

and I like fruit and nut chocolate well you're a I don't understand you at all this man makes no sense yeah I don't know I can't. This man makes no sense. Yeah, I don't know. I can't explain that. I think it's things that I liked as a child.

Nostalgia gets me through. And apart from that, I'm like, ugh. What about those sample packs when you get those little sample pack cereals when you're on holiday or whatever? You'd go for the Sultana brand, the little mini box. Yeah, that's probably the one I'd go to. As a kid, I would have gone Cocoa Pops and Nutri-Grain as well, but they're too sweet for me now. It's like the Sultana brand and Corn Flakes and Rice Bubbles.

I'm bored of that. Don't miniaturise those. You've ever combined a cereal? Oh, yeah, I love combining. I love combining as well. Lately, I've been working with Oats and Rice Bubbles. Yeah, interesting. It's a good combo.

Wait, you're talking about like, so you actually cook the oats in a porridge? No, no, just raw rolled oats on top. On top of your rice bubbles? Yeah, I can't eat rice bubbles by themselves. What's the ratio? 50-50. Interesting. And I don't like rice bubbles by themselves because I ran out of oats and I still had a box of rice bubbles.

And I had them by myself. I'm like, this is boring. This is, I felt like labor. And what did you add for, what did you add? Like giving birth. Did you add anything to the mix? Was it just white foods? And milk.

Oh yeah, milk is a white food, I think. That's it. Jeez, we've gone on a weird tangent early. Yeah, a good five minute chat about. If people didn't turn off when they heard Dave wasn't here, they certainly have now. It's hockey season, and you can get anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything. So no, you can't get an ice rink on Uber Eats.

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