Do Go On - 365 - The Apollo 13 Space Disaster

Episode Date: October 19, 2022

Just two days into the Apollo 13 mission the command module suffers an unexpected and catastrophic explosion. All alone and 330,000 kilometres from Earth, the three astronauts on board must now fight for their lives... their mission to the Moon has just become the most daring survival mission in human history.This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 08:00 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report) Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodLive show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/  Submit a topic idea directly to the hat here: Check out our new merch Check out our AACTA nominated web series here: Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:13 Minutes to the moon13 Factors that saved Apollo 13https://nasa.fandom.com/wiki/John_Aaronhttps://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_13a_Summary.htm https://www.thehistoryreader.com/historical-figures/jim-lovell/ https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/missions/apollo13.htmlhttps://www.nasa.gov/feature/50-years-ago-houston-we-ve-had-a-problem Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Always drive safely. Hello and welcome to another episode of Dugo on my name is Dave Warnocky and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hello, David, hello Matt. I wasn't done singing. It is my favorite time of the week. It's time to record a podcast with my friends. I love it. I did not know. I'm sorry. There is actually a trumpet solo mat if you could pop down. I didn't know you played. That's beautiful. You can play the trumpet whilst marving a trombone. That's very impressive.

Yeah. I'm pretty clever. Well, isn't it nice to be alive? Even more so after that beautiful rendition of that an original trough. Original, yes. Why is that? It's original. Yeah, off straight from the top of my dome.

Improvised. Yeah, I've got no idea what I said. Wow. And there's no way for me to listen back to it and find out and replicate it in the future. Jess, can I say this to you? Please. Happy block. Oh, and to you, Dave, you look well. Yes, there's nothing colder than a compliment. Dave and I've recently broken up and we're keeping it civil for the listeners. David, I've recently broken up and we're keeping it civil for the listeners. Okay, our children. I've started with a weird energy.

I'm putting them first. I'm sorry. Yeah. You're putting our listeners first before my children. Okay. My unborn children. Oh, wow. That's right, everyone.

How far along are they? It's full on. Some of them are like 80 really. This is a very bizarre start to this episode. I just strange podcast. For new listeners, before they turn off, I'd love to explain to you how this works. So one of the three of us goes away

and researchers at topic often from history. Well, I guess they're all from history. One way or another. Yeah, it's all stuff that's happened. Yeah. Some of it recent history, some of it very ancient. Exactly. And then we bring that research back.

And in the form of basically like an old school report, and we do an oral presentation of the other two, they listen, sometimes take it for a little walk, go on some tangents, frustrate, frustrate new listeners. Yeah, we frustrate them. Stick to the topic. Yeah, stop frustrating me.

Oh, I'm so frustrated. Oh, interruptions, I'm frustrating. All right, I think I thought I'm going to jump in. I reckon I can explain this week. Turned out I couldn't. Jess, can you explain block those for people? Block, absolutely. It is blockbuster Tofa Grace Month. There was something there's another word in there, period.

It is blocktober. It is our blockbuster month, which we've now sort of turned into two months. We use October and November to bring you our most requested topics, our patrons get to vote as well. And these are the top... Not everyone gets to vote. Everyone gets to vote. This is a public vote.

Yeah, right. Sorry, I forgot that. Thousands and thousands of voters. So many votes, they've spoken about the topics they wanted to hear for this most sacred time of year. So we are doing our top nine most requested and voted on topics. It's huge. We've had some pretty big blocks and this one, no different. Yeah, some people are saying the biggest block ever. Some people are saying that. I have taken that very literally.

I've been just around the streets and stuff. I'm not listening into people, but I just can't help but notice here in the question I asked, what are you doing for block? Yeah, there's a buzz, isn't it? There's a real buzz. Yeah. But Dave, you're doing the seventh most voted for topic

of our blockbuster topics, our most requested topics. And yeah, we normally get onto to the topic with a question. Dave, do you have a question for us today? Here we go, my question is, Houston, we have a problem. Is a punched-up Hollywood misquote from what real life space disaster? Oh, that's a Hollywood punched-up re-quote.

Well, I reckon I heard it in Tom Hanks' film. Apollo 13. Big. Oh. I just wanted to get the point. So, what do you say when he fell over on that drive? Yeah, no. We got a problem here.

Oh, I'm being a electric kid. Houston. Houston. The store manager's name was Houston. He had to come over and help him. Why does that child know his store manager by name? It's a confusing dynamic. I come here too often. I know the manager.

Sorry, man. I jumped on your joke there. Or your very real answer. I'm not sure. Because I was desperate to get the point. Because I felt like I actually knew the answer for once. You are correct. You do get the point. It is Apollo 13. The Apollo 13 space disaster is my report this week. Did I almost say Apollo 11? Yeah. Oh, I'm already done. I know.

I wonder if he's going to talk about Apollo 12, the missing link. I will talk about Apollo 12 missing link because that is that's one that isn't talked about. Well, until now. Until now. This topic, they were Apollo 13, not Apollo 12, has been suggested by a bunch of people. And thank you to Adam Darbyshire, Sarah Grume, Ben, William Young, Kat, and Tonya Daly, Jared Brazill. Brazill, Basil. She's so good.

It's Brazil pronounced like Frasil with a B, who said, thank you so much, Jared. Anytime you've got a name, you can go my stuff up, love that. Love it. Andrew Mellard, Oliver Wardle. Like a duck. Oliver Wardle.

Wardle. Wardle. Right. That's an adorable name. That's so cute. It's like Waddle. That's so good. We've got Claire,

Kirsten Gliesen, Alicia or Alicia Moore in Brackett's Lish. Peter Holberton. And that's it. Like, I think Waddle is the surname of the guy who invented Waddle. Waddle. I love it. I've also never really thought about how Waddle is the surname of the guy who invented Wordal. Waddle. I love it.

I've also never really thought about how Waddle is, what's it called? Like a duck. What's it called when a word sounds like what it is? On a matter of two. Thank you. I thought it wasn't, I took myself out of it. Do you think Waddle?

It's like Waddle, Waddle, Waddle, Waddle, Waddle. Waddle, Waddle, Waddle, Waddle. That's me. Waddling is cute. Is there another word for that word? It's not quite a sound, but it, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, what a, Apollo missions, because it's been a long time since we've talked about Apollo 11. Mm. Which I believe I talked about way back on episode seven. Oh, wow. You're serious? God, we started big, didn't we?

Is that a coincidence? This is the seventh most requested topic you did on episode seven. It is the seventh word. What? It's funny because if it's anybody else, you just let it go, but what it's you, I'm like, oh, God, fuck it, get you. go, but what it's you I'm like oh good Get you I

Good to you. Anybody else is it. I'm like I completely understood what they're saying there And let's say if like confuse the completely wrong word or something and it gives us a whole new meaning I'll let it go with you any Missing and I'm like oh you see you got away with that prick Absolutely not. Now I've already forgotten what you said but I'm like a fucking goddy of it. So yeah, I talked about that in December 2015, can you believe it? Wow. I think it's my third because I also did the challenger spaces after so just the way the

block photos worked out that I'm doing this space for me. You're our space guy. I love space. I mean, do you have a planet tattooed on you? Yes. Oh. Uranus. It's like butt.

Just generally does have. I do have satin. It's my favorite because it's got bling. Yeah. And she hasn't tattooed on her anus. No, it's your anus. I haven't got a tattooed on her anus. No, it's your anus. I have a tattoo on my anus.

It's matching. Isn't hers. Isn't hers anus. That's bigger tattoo. Tattoo. It's to scale on the butt. Okay, background on Apollo in May 1961, another former topic, President John F. Kennedy committed America to landing astronauts on the moon by 1970. It was called the Apollo program. And it was the third United

States human space flight program carried out by NASA. Uncrewed missions testing Apollo and the powerful satin five rocket that would blast astronauts to the moon began in February 1966, a year in which nothing else happened. Nothing else happened, it was a big year for that and that alone. I think Tony Locke, the plugger, the greatest of a gold kicker in AFL, VFL history was born that year. And he went on to play for the Saints who won their one and only Premiership. Damn it, it's good. In the year 1960.

I'll pay that, I'll pay that. Chicago Bulls also formed that year. England won the World Cup. Do you think that one? Hey, Jess, you weren't joking when you said you always have a girl with me for mispronouncing things, but Dave just said NASA, not NASA. Oh my god, that is embarrassing actually. And you just let it slide. Yeah, I'm embarrassed. God, you're an idiot. And I'm going to double down and continue to pronounce it wrong. Yeah. The entire episode.

Yeah, just to lean into the joke. Yeah, that's right. That's right. To own my mistake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not to a human old man. Yeah. So Apollo 1, this is where I started. Which was only named in retrospect, actually. It was the first crude mission of the Apollo program with the planned.

It's a bit dirty. Yeah, that's right. You should have seen what they were doing to that thing. All but down the side, cock and balls would be on. Yeah, the crew. With the plan to orbit Earth, but unfortunately a tragedy struck when a cabin fire during a launch rehearsal killed all three astronauts, Gus Grissom, Ed White and pilot Roger B. Chaffey.

Oh my God. Roger B. Brilliant, man. So it was a rehearsal. Yes, and unfortunately, because at the time, they were operating in a pure oxygen atmosphere inside there and then there was a spark. Oh. Extremely hot fire and they couldn't open their...

Oh. The capsule door. That's awful. And because it was so hot in there and it was... Instant death, hopefully. The amazing thing about these guys is, and I always find this so impressive, the positions they found them in when they got the bodies out minutes later, and they're incinerated, was one of them was still sitting in the chair on the radio as protocol calls for, and the other two were trying to open the hatch.

Holy shit. But imagine like you are on fire, but you're still doing the protocol. Yeah, yeah. Like you're not panicking, you're just going, okay, I've got to do this and they know, oh my God, we can't get out of here. Wow. They died of smoke inhalation.

Oh, that's all. Carbon dioxide poisoning, but absolutely horrific stuff. But I'm always so impressed that these people can stay calm in no matter what the situation is. Yeah, and I know we have pretty strict podcasting protocols, but I want you to know if there's even, I was gonna say an emergency, but not even,

just something more interesting. Bit of a hassle. I'm out, I'm out that door, you're on your own suckers. That is a protocol though, so I'm trying to call you a protocol. Just that first. The protocol.

You yell protocol as you're pushing that out the way. Just that first. But pushing that into the fire. Speedway just after pushing that into the fire. That's what he wanted. That's what Jess said, anything interesting. And she finds fire very interesting. I love it. And of course I mean, I didn't mean to say hatch instead of door for anyone who is really

into space. I don't actually have a door. One of the problems is that it opened inwards. And because of the pressure of the fire, they couldn't open, it wouldn't open. Is that something they went to, they changed? They picked that up with this. No longer was it a pure octane atmosphere,

and then they also made it so the door could open. Okay, great. Hatch. Can you give us their names on my time? They were fantastic. Gus Grissom, and he's quite, he's a very famous actor. Right off the bat, so good. Ed White. Okay. Roger B. Right off the bat. So good.

Ed White. Okay. Roger B. Chaffee. Oh my God. I mean, Ed White. Ed White in the company, the other two, I think, it's great. Because you've got every trio's got to have a... You've got to have a Michael Collins.

Yeah, exactly. Yes. So in retrospect, they named that test Apollo 1 in tribute to these three men. So that's why that's considered Apollo 1 at the time they didn't know that. The mission was granted for 20 months. And Apollo continued with Apollo 4, 5 and 6, which were all unmanned. In October 1968, Apollo 7 was the first crewed flight in NASA's Apollo program.

A crew of three made a 163 orbit flight. It was a mission filled with bickering between the astronauts on board and the crew on ground on the ground over the procedures. And I believe the three men inside never flew again. Oh wow. They had a big fight. Wow. So they never flew again because they would not allowed to fly again or because they were like, I'm done with that. I believe the commander had said beforehand, this is my my last flight which is also why he was a bit of I don't give a shit. They're saying he didn't want to wear his helmet on the way back in as they landed because he had a sinus infection and he thought the pressure would make his e-drams explode.

Oh shit. And they said no you have to wear the helmet but him and the three and his two other people didn't because he said I I'm the commander, my word is final. What? I can overall them. And they later said, okay, you're up. Oh, wow. So I would have exploded his e-drums. Well, I think they were more like you have the right to.

Yeah, wear it on your neck. You're up there. It's your health. It sort of reminds me a bit of Alice the Lynch's last IFL game was in a grand final and he was retiring. So when you, at the end of the game, whatever happened, he was out. So he just went out swinging. He's like throwing home acres at Darryl Wakeland who he was playing on.

And like got this long suspension, but he was retiring. Oh, no, that'll be me. Last podcast. Yes. Oh, fucking dick. Oh, better off. Oh, I'm going to finally wedgie Dave. Oh, that guy was talking about that was Walter Skirra.

And he was the first person astronaut to go into space three times. Why? And the only astronaut to have flown in the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo program. So I guess that's why he's like, I know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Cool bad ass and some point dexter back at in Houston's trying to tell him what to do actually put your helmet on protocol spates. Actually, if you have a subsection B He's like, I'm dead. How about I don't want my head to explode?

For that help. That's my impression of nerds. It's about on salmon just like Dave. I think there's a pillow, eight, followed in December 1968. That was the first crude spacecraft to leave low earth orbit and the first human space flight to reach the moon. All I can hear now is crude. Me too, I say every time now. That was the first. space flight to reach the moon. Well, I can hear now is crude. Me too, I say every time now.

That was the first, I couldn't. It made it to the moon. Made it to the moon. The crew orbited the moon 10 times without landing. The crew included a man by the name of James Lovell and we'll talk about him a lot on this episode. That name rings about. James Lovell.

I don't know. I'm sure I knew this somewhere deep in my brain, but I don't think I knew that other people had gotten to the moon, just not landed on it. Mm. So they met, so that, but I suppose like, it would be pretty ambitious to be like, all right, first go, let's land on it.

And it will calm it. That's, these whole things are built up to be the first two land on them. Because very much at this time, competing against the Soviets, and they think the Soviets have the jump on there. It's looking likely that they're going to do it first. And was it always planned to be number 11

was going to be the first one when they landed on the moon? I believe so, yes, I think it's basically... We'll get there, we'll go around it, we'll spend a bit longer there. So, everything's going to plan basically. Yeah. They orbited, so Armstrong could moonwalk. Yeah, exactly.

They were orbited. So, I'm not that cruel. Right. I guess that totally makes sense. I don't know why my head, I was like, they just had a crack. But I just went and they landed and they walked on it and it was great.

I think that's because sometimes I can be a little impulsive. Mm. Oh my God, I give it a go. Oh, no Michael Collins, that's for sometimes I can be a little impulsive. I'm like, I give it to go. Oh, no Michael Collins, that's for sure. That's for sure. Yeah. James Lovall, who we'll talk about apparently, he was like, when they were orbiting, we're so close. Yeah, basically touches. Let's give it a crack. Let's get down there. Yeah, that would be frustrating. Yeah. I mean, we've come this far. Yeah. In March 1969, Nice, Apollo 9 became the first flight of the full Apollo spacecraft, including the command and service module of the full Apollo spacecraft. No, don't try.

Sorry, man. I want to be a bitch. You can't. You're either born a bitch or you die a bitch. Wait, is that a threat? What's it going to be? I'll kill you. But you're either born a bitch or your Jesses bitch. Oh, no.

No, I don't know that. Katie's got clothes. I'm nice. You said when Matt mentioned something, and then that prick on you said for bitch I got chaff. So yeah, Polon Island,, and it had the command service module and the lunar module. So they're getting close, which is the thing that's eventually going to land on the moon, they're getting closer and closer. And they carried out many tests, critical to a land landing a person on the moon service. Then there was Apollo 10 launched in May 1969 and was described by NASA as a dress rehearsal for the moon landing. This was the second crew to orbit the moon. and finally, July 1969.

You're right. July 1969, Apollo 11 with Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins was, of course, the first crew to land and walk on the moon. So I previously spoke about on episode seven. Go back and give it a listen. Then come back to this one, and then be like, wow, they sound so much better now.

And that's not even complimenting ourselves there. I'm just saying we used to sound shit. Because of the mic setup and that. Yeah, it was nothing to do with us. Yeah, we've got a much better setup now. Yeah, we've got solid walls on our pods studio. Yeah, back then. Come here, Auntie Donna, rehearsing downstairs.

Some of the walls were curtains. That's right. We were in a curtained off area. Yeah. One wall was, was it like a joint wall with a meat packing plan or something? Yeah, that's right. Beautiful for sound quality. Then there's Apollo 12, November 1969, which would have attempted the first lunar landing had Apollo 11 failed. So that was the backup. They had no

idea of it. It's going to work really well. they hope for the best. But after the success of Neil Armstrong's mission, Apollo 12 was postponed by two months. And other Apollo missions also put on a more relaxed schedule. Just chill. We've done it. Yeah, because they had, they, they basically had them coming up every few months. Just we'll keep going until we get there. And then they got to the moon. They got there the first time they, they wanted to do it. And they're like, oh, great. That is impressive. Yeah. Apollo 12 despite being struck by lightning twice

after launch, which caused a power surge that knocked all three fuel cells offline. Instruments began to malfunction and telemetry data began to be garbled. Oh, that's another one. Garbled. Garbled. It's a word that keeps coming up in the, you know, space world.

They modeled. Models, like, and on the radio, you're garbled. If they can't understand what you're saying, like there's transcripts of all this stuff and it says, you know, I'm a strong garble. Garble, garble. Garble, garble. No, I can't wait. What do you say?

I'm thinking somebody turkey. Neal. On the ground, they couldn't track the data of the craft. And on board, they had no power at all and they were running on battery power and that wasn't enough to complete the launch. So it was looking real risky on takeoff. Flight Director Jerry Griffin expected that he would have to abort the mission. However, one NASA engineer and flight controller had seen this obscure occurrence before one year earlier. He'd seen similar weird telemetry readings and traced the

anomaly in his own time. Afterwards, he'd gone, I'd troubleshoot this problem. I'll have a look. He went, found it in the obscure signal conditioning electronic system, the SCE. He was one of the few people in the world who had any recognition of this. A year earlier, he'd worked out that normal readings could be restored by putting the SEE on its auxiliary setting, which meant that it would operate even with low voltage conditions, even with low power. His name is John Aaron. John Aaron. And to quote from the NASA fandom page, that's how much of people like this guy, Aaron surmised that this setting would also return the Apollo 12 to limit treats to normal. And this is all happening within seconds. Like they're panicking going, do I have bought, do I have bought, they've got like a few

seconds to make the decision. When he made the recommendation to the flight director, he said, flight, try SE to orcs. Most of his mission control colleagues had no idea what he was even talking about. Both the flight director and the capcom asked him to repeat the recommendation. Peter Conrads, the com's response to the order was, what the hell is that? I'm not sure. Put the SE, try SE to orcs, they're like, what the fuck is that mean? Have you ever in a situation maybe meeting or something and people are throwing in some suggestions and then you're like, I see, I've got this wallet. It's just like, I don't they've got a problem. I don't really know, but I feel silly

if I don't just have a go. And then you say something, they're like, oh no, don't really understand. What the hell was that? What the hell was that? I love it if this guy, they tried, it's like, no. No, thanks Aaron. Like the rocket explode.

Fucking Ellen. He's like, I didn't say it would work. Scared and cracked. I just thought I'd feel silly. I thought I'd just throw it out of ideas. Just chuck us the aux cable. I would love to have a meeting with you guys and suggest something.

And to have you both go, what the hell? Hell is that. I don't know if this is a memory of mine or if it's like a sketch from what's like that I think you should leave. It feels like a sketch on that where it's like, sorry, it's in some ridiculous suggestion. Yeah, yeah.

So my life is very similar to that show. Is it? And then people tell you you should leave? Yeah, I want to crash the hot dog car. Sorry. Okay, that could have been anyone. That's true. I should, yeah, I should say it.

Not necessarily. I was there when it happened on me. Ah, Peter Conrad was like, what the hell is that, but he goes, anyone. That's true. I should, yeah, I should say it, not necessarily. I was there when it happened. Peter Conrad was like, what the hell is that? But he goes, all right, let's try it. Fortunately, Alan Bean, one of the astronauts on board, was familiar with the location of the SCE switch. Inside the capsule, he flipped it to auxiliary. Telemetry was immediately restored, allowing the mission to continue. Wow. This earned John Aaron, the lasting respect of his colleagues, who declared that he was quote, a steely eyed missile man. So good. I love it.

I love it. And that's a compliment in their world. Oh, it's a steely eyed missile man. Having major days of rule about that, steely eyed missile. Really? Yeah. Have you seen the movie this Apollo 13? Have you guys seen that movie?

I saw it for my birthday. I can now hear it guys. I can't, uh, was it Southland? And I think... Who was it? I saw it with James Wright. And Jonathan. Can I remember his name?

Okay. Kids from school. Yeah. Is this like a young, youngish birthday? Yeah. Would it be like eight or seventh or something? Right. It's a pretty full're a young, youngish birthday. Yeah, it would have been like eight or seventh or something. Right, it's a pretty full-on movie for kids. As we're going to find out the story, I was just wondering if you're seeing it

because in the movie I noticed in the script because I wrote my report and then I hadn't seen the movie and I was like, I watched it last night, really enjoyed this fantastic movie. But someone else is called a Steely-eyed Missile Man and I'm like, I know what that's referencing. Even though John Aaron's in the movie, they are calling someone else that. Oh, that's bullshit. Come on, Aaron's the Celia I have a man

according to NASA fandom. Normally I prefer a short nickname, but Celia I have a man. Yeah, that's a good catchy. Yeah. Oh, I would just show it to a man. Celia I have a man. What's the Celia I have a man?

Celia I have a man. Stem. It's good they finally have a man. Stilly Dan. Stilly Dan. Damn. It's good to finally have a man and stem. Thank God. Finally. Basically, because of John Aaron, who at the time was only 25 or 26 years old, they made it and three more men made it to the moon to walking on its surface. Isn't it always impressive when somebody, like you hear the age of somebody like that

and you're like 25, working at the bloody NASA. Oh, no. And then you realize that they're just like people out there who are impressive and have skills and ability. Yeah, their prodigies. And like, no, I think that, I think just like 25 year olds can just have a job and be good at it. That's what I mean.

That's ridiculous. It's crazy. There's just people like that at it. I was still a trolley boy when I was 25. Nothing's in a wrong way. Some people work at NASA, some people work with trolley boys. We've all got jobs. Yeah, there's no job, there's no need.

I've also worked in the liquid apartment. If there were no trolley boys, where would we get our trolley? Like every job is important. Where would John Aaron from NASA shop without the trolley boy? Yeah, where he's got to carry all his groceries. He's John Aaron from NASA. Yeah, he's got time to collect the trolley? He doesn't have time.

No. Do you think he has time to stack his own liquor shelves? Surely not. We're going to talk more about John Aaron with today's main topic that we finally arrived at, which is Apollo 13. A good lucky number. Exactly. Now, the thing that blasts them to the moon ought for takeoff at least is the. A rocket.

Giant. Exactly. The Saturn V. Most powerful rocket ever made. Wish I could watch one takeoff. Yes. Extreme. It's huge. Ridiculous. Makes the rocket technology hasn't really come on. I think as I talk about the computers on board are less powerful than a calculator or something. Yeah. It's absolutely. But the rocket is still the most powerful ever. That's interesting. Maybe we're underestimating calculators.

Oh, that's a such point. So about that. That is such a good point. Wow. So NASA had contracted for 15 satin five rockets to achieve the goal of landing a person on the moon. They had no idea how many missions it would take to achieve the goal.

And when they ended up doing so in 1969, they'd use six rockets. Wow. So they'd got nine rockets remaining. They hope to use for further moon landing. So they're like, well, we got them. It's good to buy in bulk. We paid for them exactly. They essentially went to Costco for rockets. Use them or lose them because they'd go out a day. They basically like milk. Yeah. Yeah. American. They passed right. It's not their rockets. Yeah. I think Louis was on homogenized.

Louis pastures involved in rockets. Apollo 13's Latin motto. Oh, he got mat. You'll know this. Forty-a-forty-us quote, fiddliest for daily. He does every time. You never get it right. Well, you're never sure.

No, that's right. I remember because I said it one time and someone laughed very hard at me because I always thought it was, this is the Sanca for Book Club's motto. I mean, it's strength free loyalty for daily, but it's like, yeah, I have no idea now. Fortius, it's not, and it's not, I don't think any part of it, I say right. Forty-us, maybe the Quo. Quo. Forty-us Quo for Dalius.

It sounds good. What's this one's like? Oh, so the mission motto in Latin was ex-loona, soientia, which means from the moon, knowledge. Oh! She said just skip to knowledge. Yeah, from the moon, comma. Knowledge. From the moon, knowledge. Oh, she said just skip to knowledge. Yeah, from the moon,

comma, knowledge, from the moon, knowledge. How beautiful is the language that they can just use three words but say so much. Yeah, for us we'd say from the moon we'll get some knowledge, we'll gain some knowledge, but they just say from the moon. And even that like from the moon it kind of implies that we're asking the moon some stuff. So I think we would probably say from our travels to the moon, and studying its surface and climate, and other stuff. And then in Brackage, it'd say one slash question mark. Yeah, yeah.

Because we don't know how many. I don't know how many tweets. Tweets of gym. slash question mark. Yeah, yeah, because we don't know how many. Don't know how many tweets. Twitter. From that we will hopefully gain some knowledge. So that's what I would say. Yeah, that's what I'd say. Luna is.

Luna is Luna Latin. Lunarly, Luna. I didn't realize Luna was Latin. Oh, makes you think. That doesn't it. Because it me. It's backwards, it's anal, of course. Of course. Which goes back to Jess's tattoo. And of course backwards, it's, Hey, that's my other tattoo.

It's just his anal. Excellent. A backwards, anal, exy. Anal, exy. Anal, anal, anal, it's a little exy. Exy, that's a little expensive. That's going to cast you. That's going to cast you. This is the first Apollo mission devoted to scientific discovery of the moon.

Stuff like collecting geological samples, drilling three-meter holes into the surface of the moon, taking photos of possible exploration sites and experiments to develop human capability to work in a lunar environment. Isn't it amazing? Humans famously love digging holes, but that's just, you know, normally some guy on his backyard. I love that even people at NASA are doing that. Yeah, we're going to the moon.

What are you going to do? Dig a hole. Dig a hole. So we're pretty sick actually. Yeah, they're going to get sick, I'll say. They're going to give me a big shovel. What's sick? Can't wait.

Moon shovel. They also had an improved American flag apparatus on board. Neil and Buzz had erected a specifically designed flag. I knew that I have to pause there. That appeared to be waving in the wind, even though there's no air up there. But they had trouble digging the pole into the ground and Buzz reported that it was blown over by the rocket exhaust when they left the moon. Oh, no. Oh crap. You can't go back for left the moon. Oh no. Oh crap.

You can't go back for it. No. Can't just jump out. Ah, yeah, that's frustrating. And this all happens, this is in Hollywood, isn't it? This happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So for some reason, it's Tuesday.

Sounds to you, yeah, seven. For some reason, they choose the flag to fall over, even though it's Hollywood. Yeah. They could just fake it well enough. So it fell over. So on Apollo 12, they made sure to plant the flag further away from the module. Oh, smart. But astronaut Alan Shepard and Alan Bean, Alan and Alan had trouble with the latch that kept the pole horizontal and the flag drooped.

So they've got the flag there, but it looks shit. That's a lot of disrespect. You know what Alan'sens and anagram of anal. We're really good. That's probably why they got selected for the mission. Yeah. Double anal double anal. Big and whole double penetration on the moon. An also nice.

They do it twice. So on Apollo 13, they had a flag with a double locking mechanism. Again, it's someone's job to design stuff. Yeah. What do you enjoy, Jeff? I made the flag. For the moon. I made the flag.

And then it droops. You're like, oh, crap. Thanks. Yeah, crap. So the Apollo spacecraft was made up of two independent spacecraft joined by a tunnel, little connection. There's the orbiter called Odyssey. That's good.

Which Jim Lover was apparently like, that's a great name. We're going on an Odyssey. And then there's also the lander called Aquarius. The Odyssey is the command module and service module, which I'll talk about a bit more. It's kind of like the mothership that all three astronauts travel on their way to the moon and back. It's the main bit where they sit. A bit of room in there, very solidly built and quite comfortable to be in. Great question. Yes, there's seats in there. There's a little fake plants or something that add a bit of greenery. There's a pool table. Oh, that's nice. The balls flying around.

Ow! Isn't it interesting to think, you know, if there were people on other planets, that would be a UFO to them. They'd be getting out in their space man suits. Like, who are these interesting creatures? And they'll make you think. We would, in fact, be the aliens. We'd be the aliens.

Yeah. Imagine. Oh, I don't like to imagine that. And then they get out and they plant a flag that droops and like, oh, not a very advanced civilization. I'm pathetic, aren't I? Leave them alone. Lower your weapons for these little pathetic aliens. So they're in the Odyssey and the Command Module Service Module. When they get there, the plan is the lunar module Aquarius breaks away with two members. It's the thing that looks quite like a spider. Yeah. And takes them to the service of the moon while the third member orbits in the command module. The lunar module is much more basic, but that's fine because they don't plan to spend much time in it. Then they fly home in the Command Module and Service Module. The Service Module drops off just before they enter the Earth's spend much time in it. Then they fly home in the command module and service module, the service

module drops off just before they enter the earth's atmosphere and the conical flask shaped command module splashes down into the ocean, Navy picks them up, piece a cake. That's what happened. That was number 12. That is what happened with number 12 and that's the plan for 13 as well. In theory, quite simple. They've done it twice now. Easy peasy. How hard could it be? Yeah. Yeah, as long as I don't get complacent, I guess. It feels like it in time. People say how hard can it be? It's like, that's just guaranteeing success. Yeah. Exactly. Which is what I'm trying to do. So the commander of the mission was Jim Lovell, who I mentioned before.

Select. This is Tom Hanks. Yeah. Now, selected as an astronaut in 1962, 1962 level was making his fourth space flight and second trip to the moon. He's the first person to ever achieve those milestones. Wow. It been a pilot of Gemini 7 or as they say Gemini 7. Gemini 7. Gemini 7. Americans. They say Gemini Gemini. Gemini. Well, at least the astronauts I've heard at interviews when they talk about the program, they call it Gemini. Well, at least the astronauts I've heard at interviews when they talk about the program,

they call it Gemini. Well, I'd probably take the everywhere. Yeah, that's what I mean. And I don't say all Americans, but definitely some of the gem level himself, he calls it Gemini. Gemini, Gemini Cricket. Gem, wow.

Gemini Gillikus. I've never heard of that. I mean, I know they say, aluminium aluminum, because they spell it different. But I haven't. And what I was, you know, they say, yeah, it's like, misan, misan. Adidas. But I haven't. And what else, you know, they say, yeah, so it's a thing. Sad, missan,

Adidas. Adidas is fun. Adidas. They say Nike. Yeah. I think all of these are probably the correct ones. I'm as well and we say I'm wrong. But I love those little cultural differences between us and then.

Hey, I don't know if we're job interview at Nike. And, and one of the first things she said in this group interview is, and so just so you guys know, it's Nike. Yeah. Not Nike. Because we say Nike. It was a lot of us to I always said Nike.

Yeah, but you're of a different generation. People you're age. I might not take me, but say stuff wrong. Same generation, actually. Well, I mean, canonically. Oh, not canonically. Yeah. I'm from, but say stuff wrong. Same generation actually. Well, I mean, canonically. Oh, not canonically. I'm from a time before generation. Certainly not culturally.

I learned so much from your kids. I keep in the young, for example, I tell you about 1960 space missions. It's fun. Keep in the young. So Jim Lovell had been the pilot of Germany 7, command pilot of Germany 12 Seven, Command Pilot of Gemini 12, and Command Module Pilot of Apollo 8,

the first pilot admission to the moon. He was also Neil Armstrong's backup commander for Apollo 11. So Neil pulled out, he was gonna be the first on the moon. So he's very experienced, he's what you'd call an astronaut's astronaut. Okay. That's what I would call.

That's what I would call. That's what you'd say, yeah. Now 42, he was born in Cleveland, Ohio. Oh, God's country. In 1928, before coming, becoming an astronaut, he served in the Navy where he landed fighter jets on aircraft carriers in the dark during bad weather. He's great pilot. He then became a naval test pilot, logging 7,000 flying hours, Which is, that's not a hours. How many days is that nonstop? How many virgin velocity points is that?

7,000. You want to get them any? Yeah, one per hour. It's actually not that good, is it? No, that's not a great deal. He married his high school sweetheart, Marilyn, and together they had four children, Barbara, James, Susan, and Jeffrey. Good names.

Great names. Jim Lovell's nickname, J.P.C. If you like this, was shaky. Hi, that. No, I love it. A fellow future astronaut Pete Conrad had apparently given Lovell the nickname as a joke, as it would be the last thing a test pilot would want to be known as. Okay, that's good then.

That is good. He did not want a shaky test pilot. So as a joke, that's good then, that is good. He did not want to shake, he test pilot. So as a joke, he had that name and it took up. I call him Crashingburn. I'd call it, this guy steals from the company. Hahaha. Lovel was originally slated to be part of Apollo 14, the mission after this, but was asked to swap with Alan

Shepard, who'd only just come back to the program after taking years off to treat an illness. He had something in, he had grit or something in his ear. And he was dizzy for years. Yeah, there to go. And he just had, obviously, don't want to ask for it with better go up there. No. So he had, he'd just come back from an operation after being off for years.

But he was, he's also a legendary astronaut. But so he's asked, we swap with Alan, he can do 14, you do 13. Apparently Jim said, sure, why not? What could possibly be the difference between Apollo 13 and Apollo 14? I've never even connected that to another number. Yeah.

People at the time were like, yeah, you bit worried about it and they're all like, no, it's fine. Polic 13, whatever. Cause they're like, they're men of no, it's fine pull it 13 whatever because they're like their man of logic Exactly not of superstition Mm-hmm asked about the mission later on they might change their mind. Okay, also on board So he's the he's the commander. Yeah gym level also on board was Luna module pilot Fred Hayes

Who was making his first space flight? His job is to control the Luna module that goes onto the moon. So only him and Jim Lovell will actually walk on the moon. Okay. Third person stays around. So why is that stiff third person? Yeah. They get so close, but someone's got to be in the command module. Keep it going. You know, you got Tray Cool, you got Billy Joe Armstrong walking on the surface of the moon. Poor Mike Dern. Mike Dern. So you didn't do the capsule waiting. Oh, Dern. You did him dirty.

Well, I guess of those three's got the dullest name. Yeah. He's got the Mike Collins of the names. Who of us is staying in there? Can it be me? It's got to be Matt Stewart of the in terms of dullest name. Yeah, and I'm the best driver. Yeah. Oh, you've got a pilot, I guess.

Yeah, you'd be the head. And they need maths. Yeah, I'm definitely they driver. It's the old pilot I guess. Yeah, you'd be the head. And they need maths. Yeah, I'm definitely making up numbers. I'll make sandwiches or whatever you need. I'm back and you've made like 600 sandwiches. Oh, is that, is this helpful? How do they? And you can't about it.

Yeah. But you don't want my sandwiches. I'm like, I don't know. No, these in space. It's all like gel and sweet paste. Yeah. I'm home assuming it. I've in space. It's all like gel and toothpaste. Yeah. I'm home, I'm so sorry. I've got the I've over the bag of the chips.

Yeah. Protect the queen. Imagine if you went back to episode seven, I'd love to know how many of these dog shit riffs were done by Tom's. We've 100% asked that before. I'm sure he's been a lot of say. I want to say, I remember.

I say riffs as well, quoting the Simpsons vaguely. I reckon back then I would have said I'd stay because we didn't know what an incredible driver I am. That's true. Oh my goodness, back it up. You can back up a lunar module, no worries. Easy. Matt and I are coming back to the UK very soon in November.

If you want to come along, do go on pod.com. And we talked about how this time, because it's just two of us going, we don't need a big van. And also Jess isn't there to park it. So we're probably going to hire the smallest car we can. We get a burrina, too. Yeah, a little bit. We always, Jess, what a park. What a park.

Hard of one of my lives. Jess the park Perkins. Hard of one of my lives. You said too much, hey, don't you? Shit. Shit. You're the favorite of my lives. I said too sorry. You said to my side, I'm sorry. Shit. Shit. You're the favorite of my wife.

I'm so sorry. Whoops. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Whoops. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Whoops.

I'm so sorry. Whoops. I'm so sorry. Whoops. I'm so sorry. Whoops. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry shape. It's not that bad. How do you know that's in a compliment? I bet that is a compliment. Thank you. You've got an outer world, an other worldly head shape. Well, that's only funny because it's obviously not true. That would if that hit it close to home. You know, say this is one of the worst moments of one of the lives. You can't say that. We'll make a stop. No. So we're talking about Fred Hayes, Lunar Module guy, born in Baloxi, Mississippi. Oh, November 1933. Hayes, 36 years old at the time of the Apollo mission. He underwent naval aviator training from 1952 to 54. He served as a US Marine Corps fighter pilot and after his military service, he returned

to school and graduated with a Bachelor of Science degrees in honors in aeronautical engineering. So these are all very good pilots, also very smart people. Yeah, very qualified. Very qualified, that's right, very educated. Very small group of people that would qualify. Yes, quite a niche. And back then they were cutting half of the population out already, probably, because it's all men right? Yes.

And then most of these people graduate at the top of their aviator class of a hundred, and then from there they apply. Yeah. And then they... It's the best of the best. It's like the start of Man in Black, whereas like these are the best of the best. But even a lot of them get rejected.

And that's so sad. But they don but even a lot of them get rejected. That's so sad. But they don't, they don't remember it, of course. No, pull out that thing in there. Is that the same at NASA? Yeah, they don't remember anything. So maybe I did apply. Maybe you got in. Maybe you've been to the moon. Wow, that's so true. You could deny that. Probably I've been to the moon. You've probably been to the moon odds are Yeah, yeah I mean how many people I've been to the moon I'm just 12. I finished up my class Some point in something I'm sure okay, yeah, yeah, oh, I definitely back them

Great for? Yeah, oh, definitely back then. Yeah. But now, tell it. Tell it. I was a bit after that. Great for. I don't know. I'm not. It's a great for. Probably long division actually. Great for isn't the fourth time you've done prep.

This for me took me 12 years to finish. What's your favorite shape? Tangle. It's actually circle for me took me 12 years to finish. What's your favorite shape? It's actually circle for me, but wow. Makes you think. It's not about it. So Fred Hasey's married, he was married to Mary and that three children, Fredric, Steven and Thomas. That's nice. It's a lot of dull names so far. Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it? They're dull people. Oh, I'm sorry, it's the 60s. They haven't invented a lot of names yet. I just think these are all like they're basically nerds, right? No offense and nerds, they do all the best stuff. It's important to have them. Dave, I can't use a nerd. Thank you. But your kids now is gonna be fucking dull. Oh, there'll be like cyborg accent.

Wally when one. Wally when one. What was that? Cyborg accent Wally when one. Wally when one. Wally when one a wanna key. What? That's actually awesome.

Wally when one a wanna key. Get your ass down here. Your father's made baked beans. Get in here, you two cyborg eggs. What a gift you're gonna know. Beautiful. I mean, you're never gonna yell that in a parking and they have one kid turn around.

Actually, you'll have most parents turn around like, the fuck are you doing? The final position was command module pilot. This role stays back on the command module, Jess Berkins, orbits the moon whilst the other two go down and do their thing. No, no, that's me. Jess is. Oh, yeah.

That's making six hundred seven years ago. That's right. This is you Matt. I'm Mike Dan. You the Mike Dan. This is Mike Dan. Originally, the command module pilot was meant to be Ken Mattingley. And the three men trained together extensively for the mission, but only eight days out,

all three men were exposed to Rubella, also known as German measles. Yes. By a member of the backup crew, Charles Duke, both the main and backup crew trained together so they were all exposed to Duke. Wow. That's not good. German measles is not nice. No, I had one of the measles as a kid. Is that, would it be different?

If I just had measles? You might have just had measles. Right. We should have been, there was a vaccine that did. Yeah, measles, mumps, rubella. We're belly, yeah, you're right. And, there are cellar. Or varicella, which is chicken poise.

Maybe I never had measles. I had no idea. I had one of them. I'm sure you were sick at that time. Rubella, yeah, you're right. And, Thara, Sella, or Baruchella, which is chicken. Maybe I never had measles. I had no idea. I had one of them. I'm sure you were sick at that. But you think I had chicken pox? That's gone now, isn't it?

You never had it. No, I did have it. Yeah, yeah. Do you have a, twice. Really, you're not meant to get a twice, are you? Do you know what I mean, just a bit.

Remember I had it for the Sydney Olympics. Oh, that's right, of course. Of course. I missed out on my chance at the Olympics. Yeah. I was supposed to be Nikki Webster. Nikki out on my chance at the Olympics. Yeah. I was supposed to be Nikki Webster. Nikki Webster was your understudy. Yeah.

So I mean, I'm happy for her. They could have been your strawberry kisses. I could have been on a Christmas weekend at some point. You would have got a whole career off of it. Yeah, obviously. Of course, it's his hand that you want to play. Yeah. Jim Lovell and Fred Hayes from the main crew

were found to have immunity from the disease due to prior exposure that already had rebella. But Ken Mattingly did not, and only being a week out from launch, NASA didn't want to risk him going to space and developing the sickness up there. Oh, that makes sense. Oh, that makes sense. Being hundreds of thousands of miles away and being really ill, especially. But imagine being the first person to have rebella in space. Oh, yeah.

That could be me. to have Rebella in space. Oh, yeah. That could be me. Yeah, I do, because I think of it, you know, I love when something's canceled nearly always. It's really that I'm like, even a thing that I want to do. And they, these guys obviously want to do this. Yeah.

But I want to be as a part of it. I'm like, oh, goodness. I got to leave off. I'm just, uh, what's your movies? Yeah, go home. He's like, I really like my bed. Yeah. I think they had more to live for Yeah, I think you're these people have like trained their whole lives to get to the land. Yeah, I think you would be

So if you I think in total only 24 people have been there ever So you know, and this is the chance to be in the first you know 9 or 10 Please he was spewing have the Soviets got there by this point Oh, no, they haven't. They've never landed a person. Are they still having? No. Right. Do they stop trying? Yeah, I'm pretty sure they did. Yeah, but they were the first to get nothing an object up there. And also they got to sneak the... A rocket? It was the object of a rocket. Yeah, I think they landed a bunch of stuff

on there like you know fired shit into it because you don't have to land it if you just exploded onto the floor. Whatever. Pow! So, he's out, can him adding these out. So just two days before the launch, he was replaced by a backup member Jack Swigget, who did intense training with the other two Apollo crew members to get up to speed. Just two days. Far out.

That's a lot of pressure Jack Swigget. Swigget was 38 years old and it also never been to space before. What? So only gym levels have been to space. He's really a lot more experienced than the other two. That's why he's the commander. So is Swig it? That's is Kevin Bacon one of the other crew? In the movie? Yes. Kevin Bacon plays Swig it who takes over. Right. From Maddingley who's Gary Senees. Ah yes. So Gary Senees is on home base. And who was the other who's Bill Paxton plays? Paxton. What a powerful trio. Yeah, what a great. I loved it. Absolutely. Check it out. Ah, Swagit was 38 years old and also

never been to space. So he said he held a Bachelor in Bachelor in Mechanical Engineering and a Master in Aerospace Science and was a former test pilot as well He'd wanted to fly since he was a kid delivering newspapers at the age of 14 to save up just for flying lessons Wow Imagine you got to deliver a lot of newspapers to be for flying lessons to like the 50s. It's so expensive Oh my god, I live back then wouldn't even be rare. Yeah So to recap we've got on board Commander Jim Lovell, super experienced it. Command Module Pilot Jack Swigget has been called in the last minute and Luna Module

Pilot Fred Hayes. And they have supported on the ground by hundreds, if not thousands of engineers and other experts monitoring every part of the ship in the flight mission. The average age of the flight control team was just 27. Really? Babies. Babies children. Children.

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Yeah, if you think about it long enough. Yeah, idiot I think basketball has been around a little longer than the moon Okay, okay Okay, okay, okay, some people so stupid. And we're dealing with these people every day. Every day, just going to be a little bit of a large surrounded by idiots. Everywhere. Melbourne is full of them. Full of fools.

Is it probably the stupidest city in the world? I would say so. I reckon we should test it, but I don't even know if we've wasted our time. Oh god. I can't. You know, we're trying to test Melbourne people. I probably would never know how to pick up a pencil. Oh, what do I do? It's so embarrassing. You've already failed. Anyway, Dave, should you go on? The other person I learned about in this report is Judith Love Cohen. Deji, that's so nice. Lovely. Good for Cohen. Who was Cohen? We'll get there Judith is an engineer who had worked on the abort guidance system a Yes in the Apollo lunar module

Let me see you know this her son. Yes, I've been born the year before in August 28th 1969 and we grew up to be Tony plug a locket Jack black what? What? Jack black the JB himself and I love jack black I know he's great and his mom one of my very bad ass I didn't know that yeah apparently she went into the office the day jack black was born yeah that's why yeah it does have the vibe of a kid who really needed to strive for attention. Look at me! Look at you, doll! According to all that's interesting, which has a great article I know that I'll link to. When it was time to go out to the hospital, she took with her a computer printout of the

problem she was working on. Later that day, she called her boss and told him that she had solved the problem. And, oh yes, the baby had been born as well. Oh, it's fucking hell. Which is awesome. Only 0.05% of all engineers at the time were women. Yeah. How many? 0.05%. 0.05%.

So there's probably like two. Wow. Isn't that crazy? And one of them is Jack Black's mom. And what was it? So his black note, his actual ceremony, Senna's Cohen. No, it is Jack So his black note, his actual ceremony, his name's Cohen. No, it actually, it is Jack Black, I believe, because I looked into that,

because I was going to say, born, but you would know him better as, but then his name is actually Thomas Jacob Black. Yeah, right. So not Jack Black. Tom Black. Tom Black. He's his, uh, his father was a satellite engineer. Thomas William Black.

Do you think they're disappointed? I mean, he's very successful and he's great. Uh, I would say universally loved. Um, but yeah, would they like, could you try a little harder in science? He's like doing guitar solos. Bim, bim, bim. And then he's in that episode of the X-Files where I can control electricity. Yeah. Oh, wow.

It's wired by experience. So United States missions are prior to lift off controlled from the launch control center, LCC, located at NASA's Kennedy Space Center on Merritt Island, Florida. So they take off from Florida, after lift off responsibility is handed over to NASA's mission control center in Houston, Texas. So that's why they're always like Houston. Yeah, right. The mission was launched at the plan time of 2, 13 PM exactly. Isn't standard time on April 11, taking off from the Kennedy Space Center.

Even though Neil Armstrong's first steps on the moon had been less than a year earlier, this point, an event that is still one of the most watch broadcasts in history, by April of the following year, public interest in the Apollo missions had well and truly fallen to the wayside. Apollo 12 had also succeeded in making it to the moon, so now it just seemed routine. They're like, whatever.

Almost easy, like, I have course they're gonna make it. So no one tuned into the launch, basically. The ratings were dropping and dropping and dropping. Oh, wow. I mean, that's not why they're doing it. But it would be nice if people watch. Yes, it'd be nice if people watched. So what?

People care. Because I'd understand why they wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. One, it's the final frontier. And the next one, it's like, oh, yeah. Oh, what? I'm not watching people drive cars anymore.

Yeah. That was interesting for all of us. I'm not turning up to see a train go by. Yeah. I've got stuff to do. So it took off pretty pretty standard. We jumped forward into the mission a little bit, but generally speaking, Apollo 13 was looking like the smoothest flight of the program so far. Wonderful. At 46 hours and 43 minutes into the mission, Joe Kerwin, the capsule communicator, our cap, on duty, who speaks to the astronauts, said, the spacecraft is in real good shape as far as we're concerned.

We're bored to tears down here. It was the last time anyone would mention boredom for a very long time. Oh. That's a real jinx. Yeah, why would you say that? God, nothing for me to do down here. Yeah, my God. Snues. No, I for me to do down here. Yeah, my God.

Snues. No, I'm just gonna punch this black cat in the face. Hahaha. Fuck you, cat. Oh, the cat's just walked under eight ladders. I'll just follow it through. I'll throw this broken mirror at it. Hahaha.

Oh, I'm gonna pour my coffee all over this desk full of lights in front of me. Oh, there we go. This is cool, it's a bit of fun. It was only for MetaFix. Yeah, here, work this out. Asad becomes standard aboard the missions, the crew did a broadcast on day three

with a camera and a radio, giving a 49 minute, 49 minute tour of the craft. It's not that big. How does it take you 49 minutes? They're doing, they're doing gear, they're doing flight fun. Imagine if we did a 49 minute tour of this room. It is honestly about this size. I reckon we could do one. They do one gear. They do one. Imagine if we did a 49 minute tour of this room. It is honestly about this size.

How can we could do it? Here's a panel. Here's another panel on the ball. How can we get it? Dave, that's taking you like a 30 second. It's still a Patreon bonus episode. Well, we do a 49 minute tour of this room. Oh, it's a 15 minutes on the bin. Yeah.

That's such a long time to talk about a bin. No, I reckon really good. We guess through item by item. So it's 49 minutes. Jim Lava acted as a host, but he didn't know this and it's absolutely the most tragedy thing I ever heard. No one cared. Oh, the media had completely lost interest. No TV channel had picked up the footage. No one was watching there wasn't even a single media reporter in NASA's media center that day. Only their wives and children at home were watching.

That is very sad, but Dave, I've got to say, if that's the most tragic thing you've ever heard, that no one watched the thing. Then this is going to be great. I can't imagine anything else going wrong. No one is so sad. That is being like, well, you've got to... And here is, because like, you know, a billion people

watched his mate Neil Armstrong six months earlier. So he's like, of course, people care about my big time. I've waited for this my whole life and no one watched. Matt, you've got to remember Dave's looking at that through the lens of an entertainer. Yeah, that's right. And what is an entertainer without an audience?

That's true. David would be up there going, pow, pow, this is best, you know, game show host, nothing. Come on down, welcome to the command module. My name is Jim Lovell. Thanks for tuning in. We have three contestants tonight. That is one, okay. So tragic. What if that happens to us? A lot of people down, I should be Apollo 11 episode. Oh, we got a jacket, zero download.

And I'm like, I think there's a glitch. There ain't no glitch, girl. Every other episode's fine. Oh, no one cares. That is razzle dazzling. So an episode is gonna go for like three hours. The difference is my wife wouldn't even listen. At least she's watching.

Yeah, no, she's not. She's got stuff today. She's got stuff. Well, that's why you call it your first wife. I thought I'm already hearing songs that, you know, not gonna support you then. So he doesn't know. After four to nine minutes, he wrapped up his big TV moment and went to put the camera away. What he didn't know and that no one knew at the time is that same moment,

command module pilot Jack Swigett had his finger on a bomb's ignition switch. What? Let me back up a little bit. You might be wondering how we got here. So the modules, there's two modules supplied by two oxygen tanks. These were spherical shells made from titanium no larger than a car tire. The oxygen take also supplied the ship's three fuel cells to give electricity and power to the craft. Oxygen and hydrogen is combined to produce water and

electrical power, kind of like renewable batteries, making their own power up there. The water produce was also used to cool the electrical hardware and was the astronaut's main source of drinking water. So it's very, very important, the oxygen. Yeah. Very, very important. Also you need to breathe, okay? I was scared. That's why I didn't give you much when you said it's very important.

I was like, it's very important in every way. Yes, yes. It's integral. What no one knew at the time was that one of the two oxygen tanks had been fumbled on an assembly line 18 months earlier, falling just five centimeters. Oh. At the time, it didn't seem like a big deal,

but a year and a half later, this would have huge ramifications. What? Inside each of the oxygen tanks is liquid oxygen stored in icy cold conditions. It's freezing in there. Fans and heaters are found within the tank to stir the liquid oxygen and keep it at the right pressure.

And it's very cold. I feel cold. You know how they should have got to look after it? To black thunders. Yeah. All I was thinking was, could I put a can of coke in there? What would it be? Cold quickly.

So cold, so quickly. And quick? Oh, fucks. I hate that. Get down to some kiln of beach. My dinner's nearly ready. I don't have a can of coffee. Keep your eyes peeled for the black thunders.

They still do that. I don't listen to commercial radio. Oh, okay. Because I feel bad if I do. Triple. Grab your cell phone. I see cold can of coke. And the latest edition of... Us Weekly.

Us Weekly? Is that a magazine about arses Us Weekly. Us Weekly? Is that a magazine about arses? Us, us, US. Us, US. US, us. Us Weekly. Us Weekly.

I made the cover of Us Weekly. Can I see you tattoo? Oh, that's wild. I mean, there's some parallels to the another desire. What was the episode called the the challenger challenge is us. That's very small or o ring. That's right. That had been cold and then hot and then broke. Kind of similar because inside it's like it's freezing. They have these fans and heaters to keep it the right pressure inside. Sort of stir it's freezing. They have these fans and heaters to keep it at the right pressure inside,

sort of stir it all around at the same time, because otherwise, I think it sort of separates in there and isn't usable. Before the missions, there were problems filling and draining one of the tanks, the same tank that had been dropped at E.M.A. When it would not empty normally, the heaters in the tank were turned on to boil off the oxygen and things inside the tank, breached, recommended heat levels by a lot. You see thermostatic switches inside would design to prevent the heaters from raising the temperature higher than 27

degrees Celsius or 80 degrees Fahrenheit, but they failed under the 65 volt power supply applied. So there's no switch that turns it off when it gets to a certain heat. So temperatures on the heat issue within the tank may have reached 540 degrees Celsius or a thousand Fahrenheit, which is 20 times hotter than they're supposed to. It's supposed to get to a certain heat and then stop, but it didn't stop. It just kept getting hotter and hotter and hotter. The temperature gauge was not designed to read higher than 29 degrees Celsius. So the technician monitoring the procedure detected nothing unusual. Oh, that is a real oversaw.

Is that real bad? It's like, this thing turns off at 27 and the gauge tops out at 29 and then inside it's 540 degrees. Whoops. Whoops. The Teflon insulation surrounding wires connected to the fans melted under the extreme heat. But no one knows this. They've just put it in on the module as normal and then they've taken off. And now, bare wires are exposed inside the oxygen tank waiting to short out, spark, and

start a fire because it's surrounded by oxygen. So now Jack Swigett, who I said, has got his finger on the ignition switch, he's been asked to run a standard cryo stir and power up the fans within the tank to get it all moving again. There's so much gibberish in this cryo stir. Oh yeah, that's basically he's got to move the frozen oxygen inside with the fans. He's flicks the switch and a fan turns on. So standard, so normal, but he has his finger on a dead a nation key. Oh, because he starts the-ster, and then there is a massive bang. Lovell was still taking the camera down to the command module,

feeling like a nail that live TV crossed. To millions of people. I'm famous now. Immediately he felt the huge bang that rocked the whole spacecraft. Jim Lovell described the event as a bang Wump Shutter. Does that put it into context for you? I think it makes sense. It was a bang Wump shudder. Does that put it into a context for you? I think it makes sense. Or is it a bang Wump shudder?

Yeah. I was just thinking like you're feeling bad for a level. But he ended up being played by Tom Hanks in a like an Academy award winning film. Based on a book that he wrote. Yeah, so I think in the end you can't feel too bad for him. Yeah. No, I don't. And he wrote the book.

Oh, that's a good sign. That's a great sign. Unless he... He wrote it really quickly. All right, quick, someone grab a pen. I'm gonna radio down my book. Chapter one, my name is Jim Lovell. I was born in Ohio, not in 22.

Chapter two. Whatever, skip through, do a bit about, you know how I was really good in the Navy. Give my wife to fill in some of the middle bits and we'll get to this beer. Jim Swagget just blew up the fucking shim. They've got no idea what's going on. There's here this big bang. He looked at Swagget.

This is level and he said his eyes were as wide as sources. How big are the sources? Yeah, because that mean sources could be any source. That's the time of those sources. They could be like, what are they sources for? For an ant. My eyes could be as wide as ant sources right now. Yeah, it's not wide at all.

Well, maybe you spoke so as good as I thought. For listeners at home, Jess is currently squinting. Now she's going wide eyed. They're more like sources. That's why does they go? Of a cockroach. Yeah, much bigger than an ant. Human, I could say obviously not human. So that'd be huge.

No, that's it, that's almost as big as a face. Yeah. A normal shaped face, not Dave's. Very other world. It's not my face, it's my head apparently. It's not a world we're okay. Thank you. I had a nerve.

My sorcerer eyes are fine. I had a stab at anything and I'm actually here to know. No, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, we have a broken heart. Jim, is that you? He's like, I just found out that no one was watching my TV show. Because they've got no idea what's going on. Big Bang, the spark in a pure oxygen atmosphere resulted in a ferocious fire that increased the pressure inside the tank until the tank dome failed. Filling the fuel cell bay with rapidly expanding

gaseous oxygen and combustion products, basically it's exploded. Shit. Retitanium tank. Like one of a very, very, very strong material. Oh my god. The pressure rise was sufficient to pop the rivets, holding the aluminium or aluminum, exterior panel,

covering sector four and blow it out, exposing the sector to space, which fortunately snuffed out the fire. Otherwise, I'll keep burning because there's no oxygen out there for it to burn, so it's stopped. The detached panel, so it blew off a panel on the side, hit the nearby high gain antenna, disabling the narrow beam communication mode, there's a lot more gibberish, an interrupting communication with Earth for 1.8 seconds while the system automatically switched to the backup mode. Okay, so then like communicating.

Yeah, yeah, but that's just... So for 1.8 seconds, they couldn't communicate. Sorry, what did you say? I didn't say anything. Sorry, sorry, sorry, do you just cut out for 1.8 seconds? So needy. Oh my God, that's May actually, around my house. Are you talking to me?

Oh, are you talking to the dog? Okay, can you talk to me? So this all happens in seconds after, after, does the cryo stir. But the astronauts can't see any of this from where they are. They can only hear it. That's Spookier. Which is, they just hear lots of noise.

It's six or seven warning lights lit up on the instrumental Panel including the master alarm and a blue restart light and they're like that looks real bad This really confuses the astronauts as the warning lights come from different systems Meaning more than one thing is malfunctioning at the same time because usually there's you know this system goes down and there'll be a Warning light here, but now they feel like seven at the same time. They're like, oh my God, something is seriously wrong up here. It's then we come to one of the most famous misquotes in Hollywood history. Houston, we have a problem. Have a problem. Sorry. Sorry. She's sassan in all angles and directions there. I'm an assassin and us. Sassan. in all angles and directions there. I'm an assassin, an ass assassin.

Dave's giving you nothing, could he still hurt? He's mad at me. I hate to say it. It's not because he's distracted by his own reports. Yeah, so I lost my place for a moment there, but I'm back. Stressful, isn't it? No, I don't panic under conditions.

Seven alarms going off, and I think I'm about to die. I'd be like, all right, I'm died, but they're like, I'm dying. I'm dying. I'm I think I'm about to die. I'd be like, all right, I'm tired, but they're like I'm dying We'd probably whack a wankie. I love you Cyber ex you're right It's good to have favorites So the we all know the line from the movie but the Apollo 13 flight journal list the dialogue off the explosion as swig it says Okay, Houston,

we've had a problem here. Jack Lausmer back on ground says, this is Houston, say again, please. And level jumps in and says, our Houston, we've had a problem. Okay, that's not miles away. But in the 1995 film Apollo 13, the actual quote we're short into, Houston, we have a problem. Screenwriter William Broiles Jr. made the change, stating that the verb tense actually used wasn't as dramatic. He's like, he punched it up.

Yeah. Oh. The verb tense was less dramatic. What I've chose to do. That would have said, if Tom Hanks said that, Houston, we've had a problem. I think that's still pretty iconic, isn't it? Well, who am I to judge?

Because the quote ranked at number 50 on AFI is 100 greatest movie quotes in June 2005. Can we guess what number one is? Yes, have a guess. Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. Bullseye. Is it? Yes, well done.

Bop, bop, bop. Which is incredible. And I think it would have been hilarious. That's actually an alarm going. I think that that would have been the best response from Houston. Houston, we've had a problem. Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

Sorry, can you repeat that? Oh, that's awesome. Well done. That's so good, bro. What a guess. If it was May, I'd pick, no. The first thing that sees of the chimpses in the planet of the 8th re-birth.

Yeah. No! Learning the talk. Oh, we all know it. What about... Classic. Yeah, I can't take it. Number two.

And then come and need a bigger boat. That's a good one. Number 35. I'm your father, Luke. But it's different from what I'm doing. There's no I'm your father. No, I'm your father. Is that it's different from what is no I'm your father. I'm your father Is that in there? Did that make it? No, but number two does reference a father the godfather

I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse Holy shit that That's good was that actually really good! Was that you doing Darth Vader? Yes. Wow, that's good. And your father and your dinner. Okay, you've lost a bit now, but the first time was very good. Well, that one was a...

That was doing James L. Jones doing... Oh, then that was the fanciest. Wow, okay. Okay. Doing the Godfurt. Right, okay. The only star was quiet. Number eight, may the force be with you. Oh, of course

Be with you. Um, all right. And also about what about? We lift up our hearts telling me is dreaming. Don't make it. Yeah, is that on there? Let me have a look What about Rissals? I believe Rissals and Dreaming didn't make it dad. I dug another hole. It's filling with water. Is that one on there? No, didn't make it neither Dad, I don't get out of the hole. It's filling with water. Is that one on there? No, didn't make it neither did the dustings, too. What about, it's just the vibe. Oh, that would have been the smartphone.

Number four. It just keeps the smartphone. I'm fascinated by going through these. I can't believe I got it, what a guess. Fantastic, Frank and my D-Ray. What was the other one on the podium? A third on the podium. It's from on the waterfront.

I don't know what that is. I think that's two from Marlon Brando in the top three. You don't understand. I could have had class. I could have been a contender. I could have been somebody instead of a bum, which is what I am. I do know that quote, but I don't know if I know what the movie's I know the crack. I could have been a condemned

There you go. It's amazing that he got two out of the three Yeah, our number four todo I've got a feeling we're not in Kansas Number five Casablanca he is looking at you kid Number six go ahead make my day. Who's looking at you kid. Number six, go ahead. Make my day. Who's that dirty Harry or something? It's from sudden impact, but yes, it is the Clint Eastwood movie. Sunset Boulevard number seven. All right, Mr. Demiel. I'm ready for my close up.

Oh, I know that one. These are all very old films. Yes, I'm trying to look the most recent one. Looks like to be a red pill blue pill. Us of the Vista baby 91. I'm trying to think of see if there's any more recent ones. We could do a whole report on this forest gump 94. Hey, let's look at life as like a box of chocolates. Yes. Why don't you say, why don't we do that as the bonus episode this month? Okay, we'll go through some. That'll be a fun game, so I'll forget. But you say like the name of the movie and we have to try and guess what quote.

Yes, good times. That sounds fun. That's like a fun improv game for us. Yes, and. Okay, so back to the Apollo 30. Oh, yeah. Something a major has just happened on board. The astronauts can't say anything that's happening outside

The first thought is that a media right may have hit the spacecraft Wow, that's their first thought The confusion is only attitude when the thrust is unexpectedly kick in and the ship starts to rock from side to side I don't like that. I get seasick. You wouldn't like it. Space sick. Yeah, what I get what I get space sick Sam, do you have motion sick in space? Absolutely. Yes, even in the Apollo 13 movie, Bill Pax and Vomits. Really? Man, I can't go anywhere. I can't go on both planes, space. Bill Pax is death.

On the ground, flat controller, sigh, leave a got. Can't believe that the oxygen tanks and the fuel cells all look to be failing at the same time, and reasons that these must be incorrect results are what he calls instrumentation funnies. Instrumentation funnies. You used to be the producer of that. You get that project. At NASA.

The instrumentation funnies at NASA. His console is lighting up like a Christmas tree. He looks at the panel and oxygen tank too is showing no readouts and he can't make sense of it. It looks like it doesn't exist anymore because it doesn't. Right, but he's like, well, that can't be. Because he thinks a titanium sphere can't blow up. But guess what, Si, it just did.

Whoa. He's got like optimism bias or whatever you call it. Yeah, he's like, oh, that can't happen. That can't happen. Obviously, it's not a disaster. It must be, everything must just be far. Yeah, it must just, if everything in a malfunction at once, this must just be a computer glitch.

Yeah, how could that actually happen? He's just like tapping the screen. Try to refresh. Yeah, he's got the spinning wheel wheel of death. Yeah, he's like, I ain't got a good, a good restart here. But back up on the ship, the astronauts have no doubt that this is something way more serious than a malfunctioning meter. And they see evidence of something

gone terribly wrong when they look out the window and see small bits of debris coming from the craft and floating past them. Oh, yeah, you don't want to see your craft floating past. Oh, God, no. On board, Fred Hayes says into the comms that he heard a bang, but on the ground, mission control, miss him saying that, and then the crisis that follows, the information isn't relayed down. So alarms are going off, the information isn't relayed down. So alarms are going off, the craft is being rocked from side to side. No one can make any sense of the readouts, it's absolute chaos up there and on the ground. So when he says, I think I heard a bang, no one hears him say that.

So they don't start investigating an explosion for a little while. Still no one's watching them. I know. I can't get an audience. No one's cheating in even their colleagues. their colleagues tragic thing I've ever heard. Sorry, Fred, we had you on mute. You are really boring. It was such a beautiful line and a beautiful rating of that line. I heard a bang. In training, the astronauts have trained for almost every failure imaginable, but not this. They've prepared for failure instruments,

or leaks or thrusts miss firing, but never all of these all at once. It's a true nightmare scenario. Yeah. And it's only getting worse when they realize that due to the depleted oxygen levels, they're running out of power. It's decided that the crew should

use the command module batteries to run everything. These batteries are designed for use on reentry back into Earth's atmosphere. They're only designed for a few hours of power, and things are pretty desperate so they use the batteries now, because they've got no power, but this decision will haunt them later on. Oh, no. On the ground, a fly control is still trying to work out if it's a real or imagined problem.

I can't work it out. It's brutal. Are they making it up? Yeah. You guys panicking up there? This is a prank because it's not funny. It's not funny. We want to get a bed.

Many are still going on the theory that it's just malfunctioning meters. They decided to call someone who would definitely know a certain steely eyed missile man. Yeah. Neil'm strong John Aaron Remember he's the guy that saved Apollo 12 with his encyclopedic knowledge of the meters and the readouts Someone calls him at home whilst and they're getting whilst he's shaving And he asked them to read out a few different numbers. He's like give me this number. Give me that one Yeah, yeah, that's that's not a malfunction. That's a real problem. He just knows from the numbers. Oh, that is amazing. He says, there's something serious

going on up there. And they're like, holy shit, it's been confirmed by John Aaron, man. The Steely-eyed Missile Man. It's got to be, that's got to be top 50 nicknames all time. It's very good. Oh, I love it's so good. We're not calling you it. Oh, come on. Oh, what? You're already the Cobra mate. You owe me this Jess after cracking at my appearance. Oh, I'm sorry.

I owe it to you after being honest about your weird shaped head. Can you be honest about my steely eyed Michel man? Michel man? Yes, Michel and man. I'll take a steely eyed Michel man. As long as I'm the steely eyed Michel and man. Sand man. I mean, the steely eyed Michel man.

I'm a you, man. As long as I'm the steel-eyed Michelin man. Sand man. I'm the steel-eyed, Sham man. Oh, Sham man. No one else had it, but when we were watching the mummy in Sydney a few weeks, every time the mummy himself moved around and disappeared into a block of pile of sand, Matt would just lean over to Jess and I and say, Sham man. It was so funny. It's so funny. No one else said it.

But everyone you were too scared to call something out. Yeah, it wasn't. I was like, Jess, you should say this. It was feeding me jokes. It's too shy. Because you were killing. You had them in the palm of your Russian. Good fun. Fuck, we're fun to watch a movie with you. Share man. Yeah. Shenman. Still, I'll be sure. So join Aaron's confirmed something serious is having Jim Lovell come to the same conclusion when he looks out and sees a hose and a gaseous substance leaking out of the ship. So he sees a hose and then like gas is pouring out this and he's like, I can see gas. Yeah, that's not good.

I don't, you don't usually look out and see that. Yeah, that's not good. What he's seeing is liquid oxygen pouring out into space and freezing solid. The bad news is this isn't oxygen leaking from tank two because that's gone in the explosion. This is leaking from tank number one. Oh, no.

The only other tank they have. Oh, no. So if last one completely, the other one is pissing out oxygen into space. And they need this. And they need this. They need this. This is like literally the air they're breathing. The air they're breathing, it's the stuff that combines for water, that water, also combines for electricity.

So the big three things you need to live up there. Right. From the pyramid of need. Yeah, that's right. They're all right up the top. Their shelter will die. They'd topple the bottom of the pyramid. At the moment, they don't know where they are.

Oh yeah, because of Zurich gravity. Pyramids don't make sense in space. No. Pyramids of needs. Haslo. See the man. We're talking about him. Sure. Who's the guy who does the pyramid of needs?

No idea. Hasbro. Has who does the pyramid in eights? No idea. Hasbro. Hasbro. Is there not a guy? It's the someone's, doesn't matter. I just assumed Dave knows everything and that must be such a burden.

I just think that you all the time. Who is it again Dave? Let go of the pyramid in eights. Yeah, was it Cheops? Was it either built the pyramid? What's the name of this Kufu? Remember that from a few weeks ago? Anyway, of course not. Just took my jump rope and I showed just my nipples.

Sorry about that. I did not see any more. So if you could lift your t-shirt back up, I'm just like, I miss my one chin. I also took my jump rope. Does anybody want to see my nipples? No. OK, because it's weird.

I can tell myself to do a lot. So. Maslow. Jesus So. Maslow. Jesus close. Maslow. Hasbro. So they're leaking oxygen from tank number one. And because of this, two of the three fuel cells are down.

The remaining fuel cell needs oxygen to produce electricity to keep the oxygen flowing. The tank needs to have a certain level of pressure. But because the tank is leaking and it's losing pressure rapidly, if it drops below a certain level, the power will stop. Oh, shit. To keep up the pressure, they need to turn the heaters inside on, but this takes up more power, but they're running out of power. So it's a horrible cycle.

This sounds like a convoluted version of speed. Yes. It is. All right, you've got to keep this level. Yeah, because basically, you've got to turn the power up to keep the oxygen flowing, to keep the electricity flowing, but you're running out of that. So you're running out of everything all at once.

Terrifying. It's a horrible, horrible cycle. So I'll leave a cot radio. As up he says, we're going to get down to 100 psi in an hour and 54 minutes. That's the end right there. Are they still on the way up to the moon? They're very quickly realizing that they're not going to make it to the moon.

And that this is now a survival mission, which is devastating to everyone. But they're still heading away from it. Yes, heading away from Earth at this point. Can I just turn it around? Yeah. You. Chuck you. Chuck you. Chuck you got so much space. Yeah, they're doing a three point turn. That'll be so much. Just turn. It's fine. You're not going to hit anything. You don't know. This turning circle on this area. I don't know this area. And then you just listen to him. Just do a turn. fire hydrant. They're very deep gutters here.

And I want to tuck the nose into the bluestone gutters. So, they're running out of oxygen pressure, meaning soon the service module, the command service module will be unusable and they need to find an alternative. Chris Kraft, the inventor. Why is that so funny? It's just so funny that you stopped to let us know that words sound like another word. Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris. He really took me by surprise. He's only writing stuff down.

He said out loud for the best. I'm like, wow. Chris, Chris, Chris. Chris, Chris. Chris, Chris. I'm not going to write that. I'm not going to write that. I'm not going to write that.

I'm not going to write that. I'm not going to write that. I'm not going to write that. I'm not going to write that. I'm. What an out that. Chris Kraft, Chris, cross. The inventor of the concept of mission control is called in. He was at home showering. So they're very clean people. And I'm sort of keep it. Shaman shower 24, 7.

Got a big clang. Chief flight director, Jean Cranc calls him and says, Chris, we're in deep shit. Oh, so they're in in all the experts. And on the ground, they've got many theories as to where the dangerous air leak that's killing the modulus coming from.

A big one is that it's coming from one of the three fuel cells themselves. When the valves are open, they allow hydrogen and oxygen to mix and react, which creates power in the fuel cells. The theory is, if they close the valves, then they might be able to stop the leak. Right. The thing is when the valves are closed, they can no longer provide electricity, so it becomes useless. And once they're closed, they can't be reopened. Oh, so it's a gamble.

Right. To close two of the fuel cells, valves, because they've, you've only got one fuel cell left after that, but they're desperate so they go for it. They decide All right. Because the alternative is that they just die anyway anyway. So they close them, sadly, it does not stop the leak. So now they've just turned off two of the fuel cells for good. They can't get them back online. Down to just one fuel cell and losing oxygen pressure, the command module is dying and they're running out of options fast. In desperation, they have to think outside the box and go for a completely untested plan because they need a lifeboat. And they've got one, but that's not what it's designed for. Sileber got suggests that they use the lunar module or the LEM as a lifeboat.

They should move the three men from the command service module into the Lem. This has never been properly considered or rehearsed before. You know, NASA's gone through every scenario, but they have not considered this before. It's not, it's not regularly has no contingency plan, but they're like, all right, that's still got power. We'll move from this side of the craft to the other. Yeah.

With no other option, and only 15 minutes left of power time, they decide to jump ship to the attached limb. 15 minutes before. Is it one of those situations where they're like, don't take any personal belongings? Okay, they like pack some snacks. That's right. Yeah. Don't wear high heels. Because you don't know how long you're going to be in there. So like, can I grab some snacks? I think it's fair. I love to grab some snacks. Yeah, there's time for snacks. Yeah, it's fair. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm just yes. There's time for snacks. Yeah. There's always time for snacks. Thank you. Can you bring your you know, you know, it's whatever you've stored in the overhead blockers. Yeah, of course. Yeah. All right. Great. Let's just let's do my

laps. Let's do special stuff. Cool. You're a spare jacket. Paper over underpants. Okay. Something goes around. Okay, so sure. Yeah. So we're going to go. Yeah. So we can get someone goes around. You're being a gentleman about it. But it's not an easy swap. To add to the stress, they have just minutes to transfer precious navigation data from the Odyssey's command module computer to those in the Equarius Lunar Module. Floppy disks.

What are we looking at? They're actually having to put it in by hand. Oh. And if they lose or miss into the data, they won't know where they are in space and navigating how it would be impossible. Oh, shit. We've got to put in all their positions and stuff. Can they not see Earth? It's over there. Like how hard is it? That's the big blue one. Double blue one. Go to that one. Oh, no, we went to the red one.

It is. Shit. And Jim Lovell has to do it all by hand, taking the figures from one computer, writing it down, doing arithmetic to factor in the difference of position between the Odyssey and Aquarius, who's doing maths in that stressful situation by hand, and then he runs to the other computer and then types it all in. He moves back and forth between them, any mistakes would mean they won't know where they are. Terrifying. All right.

Command module then has to be turned off in space, something it's never been designed to do. In fact, they're not sure if it can ever be turned back on. And they know that to get back to Earth, they'll have to get back into the heavily protected command module for a reentry or burn, or they'll burn up. You said rear entry there, Dave. All right, reentry. Reentry. That was even worse. So does that make sense? you said rear entry there Dave. I wrote rear, rear entry. So that was even worse. So does that make sense?

So they're getting into the lunar module. Yeah, which is still attached to the command module, but then they close the hatch behind them. But then they're going to have to get back into the command in order to... Yes, but basically they're like, all right, we've got no power for it now. We'll turn it off now. We'll get back to Earth and then we'll hope to God

that we're able to turn the command module back on with a little power we've got for reentry. Because the lunar module is very thin and can't withstand reentry into the US atmosphere. So they're basically taking a big gamble and being like, all right, and we'll worry about that later. We'll survive now. And then when we get back to Earth, hopefully,

we can turn that thing back on. It's never been designed to do that though. You're not supposed to turn it off. And that's just so you maintain 15 minutes of power. Is that right? Yeah, because they just need a little bit of power to get back into Earth. So they're like, oh, we'll keep the power on this side of the craft. It feels like it's a very narrow window of, you know, possibly getting through this now.

Like a lot of things have to go right. Oh yeah, yeah. A lot of it nearly nothing can go wrong from you. No, no it cannot. But it does. Oh. They also have to power up the lunar module, which you're going by the usual procedure and checklist takes two full hours.

But they don't have two hours. They only have minutes and levels scribbled notes. So they're quickly turning it all on, but it's not like a car where you just turn the ignition on. You've got to put this bit on, then this, then this flick, this switch, flick this blah, blah, blah, blah. Do it all in a precise order or a fail,

but they're just going, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, just doing it really, really fast. Far out of that stressful. So stressful. And no one's really sure if it will work because the Lunar Module is not designed to push the 60,000 pound

pound command module. It's not a little tugboat. No, it's not supposed to do that. It's the smaller part. It's got the smaller end. It's just for zipping around. Exactly. It's like a main thing. It's like you've got a big RV, you know, driving around 10, but you've got a little like Gets. Oh, that you like tow on the back. Towing the back. Yes. And that's just for zipping around to supermarket. Little Hyundai. You got a Hyundai. Hyundai.

But then the RV is absolutely, you know, shut itself so now you have to drive the gets. The gets and toe the RV. That's exactly what's happening just well though. I nailed it. I think that's another one like Americans say that one right Hyundai Hyundai Hyundai Hyundai where it is well

We're in Melbourne. That's right surrounded by these fools So this throws off the lunar module center of gravity and it doesn't respond to levels controls as expected because it's now got this big thing attached to it. So on the fly, he has to re-learn how to control the module. Level said, I literally had to learn how to maneuver or how to place my controller to get to the proper position. It took a while for me to do that, but fortunately, when you're in deep trouble, you learn pretty fast. Oh, man.

Probably just looked up a YouTube tutorial. Quickly. It's got his laptop with him, so yeah. Go on double speed and then a bit of the start. pretty fast. Yeah, man. Probably just looked up a YouTube tutorial quickly. It's got his laptop with him. So good on double speed. And then the start, hello, thank you. And welcome back to another. Remember to like, comment, and subscribe. First a message from our Squarespace.

So the lunar module also known as the LEM. Not the LEM, hopefully. No, it's designed to take two of the crew down to the moon. It's much smaller and is only designed to sustain two men for 45 hours at a time. But now it's a life boat that will have to support three men for much, much longer. Oh, much longer than 45 hours. Much longer. Oh dear. 45 hours. Oh. And Oh, dear. 45 hours.

Oh. Wow. And so there's only two seats? Yeah, so I guess one of them has to. Like, crotch. What if I told you there's no seats? There's no seats. No seats.

Okay. Can't sit down. No, it's very, very small. Okay. How many beds are there? 10. Well, that's right then. Is there still zero gravity?

Yes. So you don't really need a sit when you can float. Oh, that's true. It's true. But in the command module, it's much more comfortable. There's room for everyone. Oh, more comfortable than floating on air. Jeez.

God, do you have impossible standards? Yes. Jeez. But to our command at gym level, he was staying positive. He said, as long as we were still breathing, we were going to go as long as possible. If you want to put it in percentages, there was a 10% chance we'd make it home again

when the tank exploded. As we solved one problem after another, the percentages went up. Well, that's a very mathematical man. Yeah. 10% chance isn't great, but it's also not completely hopeless. No, that's a shot.

Yeah, that would be just enough for me to have some hope. Okay, 10%. 10 to 1, like there's the odds of worse that the science will win the Premiership next year, for instance. Yeah. Quite a bit worse. Would you risk sticky life on it? No problem, I'll laugh, but I'm willing to have a go.

Yeah, okay, good on you. And this has all happened within two hours of the explosion. So it's been a chaotic couple of hours for everyone. Now they have to get back to Earth, which we'll cover after this message from our sponsors. This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now. You're driving, cleaning, and even exercising.

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Keep going and live on the moon? Well, no, if you keep going forever, I think eventually the galaxy just comes back around. Oh, yeah. It's actually a doughnut shape. Yeah. Well, they're not sure if the main engine is working after the explosion, so they decide they can't just turn around and go directly back to Earth. Okay. So what are they going to do? Yeah, they could use something as a sling shot.

They could swim. They just need to find a star or something to bounce off. They're a pinball at back. If I've, if space movies are to be believed, or like a wormhole that like goes there and then they go back into Jim Lovell's bedroom and you can just go home. Yeah, through the back of the itself. Just land in his house and crush his old family. But they're alive, aren't they? The other option. The other option is continue on towards the moon, fly past it, and then back towards Earth using Earth's gravity. This is called return to Earth trajectory. They use the gravity of the moon to pull themselves

towards that because now they're close enough to the moon that the moon's starting to pull them towards it. They go around the moon in an orbit, then they use an extremely precisely time thrust from the limb's thruster to put them on course back to Earth. Once they get to a certain point, the Earth's gravitational pull will start pulling them back towards Earth. It's cruising. Yeah. So you just float along, waiting, letting the Earth do all the work.

Exactly. Make the Earth work for you. Well, I mean, for one sentence of life. Okay. Is that what they're going to do? They decide this is the most viable option. That's crazy. But it also comes with its own set of hurdles. It're going to do? They decide this is the most viable option. That's crazy. But it also comes with its own set of hurdles.

It's going to take way longer. Yes, this is the long way around, meaning they'll have to conserve their very small amounts of power, water and oxygen. The crew usually get water from the fuel cell, but this isn't working properly, so they're rationed to just half a cup of water each per day. That's not much water at all. It's more than I drink.

You have a quarter of a cup. Yeah, which I really should work on that. Now water's great. Love it. Shout out to water. It's funny like when I'm just like, I need to be drinking water. It's like it's okay. But if I'm thirsty, fuck I love a water. Yeah, so good.

That's fucking water. Yeah, so good. The best fucking water. Oh my god. Try to like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. They also only had powdered food,

which is usually mixed with hot water, but they don't have any of that. So instead, they have a semi-freezing water mixed with stuff like spaghetti powder. Oh, you're just chopping up lines of spaghetti powder. Dinner's up. There's no spaghetti. Bonjourno.

Bonjourno. A wee wee. That's French. They also had, and I just did say about snacks, peanuts, cookie and bread cubes. Right. Oh, I'm interested in bread cubes. You want to bread cubes? Cookie cubes sound good too.

Cookie cubes sounds real cute. Well, there's something that got a buffet. They haven't a great time. They also got ruffled chips. They'll call it the instruments. They only have half a cup of water each, but there's unlimited perillae sparkling. Back at Houston, a tiger team was assembled. His job was to look for any future problems the crew might face. Why tiger?

They're cool. Oh, no, yes. And I guess a nature's problem. That's right. You put a problem in front of a tiger. It solves it. Tiger team. I assume that would be a reason for that, but that probably is. I think the target. It's just like, that's

just the name for like a crack team. Right. It's been assembled. The team was gathered and ragged out of band of made-of-wells. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Few of them rocked up on motorbikes. They're pretty bad. Yeah. They're like, they, these guys, I know they're the best, but God damn it, they're hard to rain in. Hey, but they get results. Oh, the team was gathered. The literal tigers. They're more like people. They're going fly control and they're just running around like jumping

on the computers. Give them time. Give them time. This is their process. I haven't seen a mission they haven't saved yet. This is also their first mission. Oh my god. This is a gamble.

They've mold six man. The team was gathered in chief flight director Gene Krantsk and the mapep talk saying it's all good. We've got a plan. We're going to use the return to earth trajectory. The crew will be in the lunar module until just before reentry to earth. They'll fire up the command module.

Get back into that, which is designed to safely re-enter earth's atmosphere. Peace appears. He's like, easy. Don't be in stress. In fact, everybody knock off. Yeah. We got it. We got it. Tiger team. I know you just got here, but hey, let's call it a half day. Tiger team out. Tiger team. Disassembled.

Oh, but 27 year old fly controller, John Aaron. A certain stilly-eyed missile man. John Aaron's there again. Rasey's handed it into up to the most senior flight director at NASA and told him what he's saying isn't possible. The batteries usually used for reentry don't have enough energy to power back up the now offline command module and keep it alive.

Jean Cranc decided on the spot that John Aaron would be in charge of finding a solution. Just because he was like, you're actually wrong, mate, you're high. Yeah. Well, I think what's really great about this is in looking into this, they weren't afraid to put their hand up and say,

this is a good solution. And I think they often back, just the best idea in the room rather than, I'm the most senior, you don't talk out a term to me. They're like, what's this? Yeah, unlike last week's episode where someone solved it. And they're like, and they're ignored. Was it Helen? Helen, Helen, Helen. Helen Jensen was like, it's this? The unlike last week's episode where someone solved it. And they're like, uh, I don't know. What was it?

Helen? Helen Jensen was like, it's the Tylenol. And they're like, shut up. Hell, yeah, but in this instance, at least, they're very much like, they are all men aren't they? Yeah, so I would say that if Helen put a hand up, they'd probably tell it all. Get out of here.

What are you doing here? You don't work for NASA. This is not for coffee ladies, I'd say. So John Aaron's in charge of finding a way to keep the power going. First of all, he says they need to turn nearly everything off on the ship. Okay. The first problem was to find out my big screen TV off. But my PlayStation.

Well, that's fine. My mini fridge. Okay. Essential things are fine. Okay. But I have to turn the TV off, but I can have the PlayStation. Yeah. It's pointless without, what are the other days? Damn it, you're right.

Damn it, you're right. The first problem was to find out what are the essential things on board needed power? This caused big arguments between the different departments of engineers that all insisted their instruments were the most essential. They're like, I do the life support. They're like, I do the oxygen. I do the navigation. And Joan Aaron has to be like, it's only the super essential stuff. do the life support. They're like, I do the oxygen. I do the navigation. They're all, and Joan Aaron has to be like,

it's only the super essential stuff. Yeah, yeah, life support. Yes, I know it probably sounds essential, but we don't have power for that. Yeah, oxygen. Oxygen feels essential. Yes, that's one of the few things. There's also concerns that the LEMO only has to be-

What about my LED light strip that changes color? Yes, but make sure it's purple, because that's my favorite. Me too. There's also concerns that the LEMO only has enough power to last one day, and the journey home will take at least three and a half. So the decision is made to turn off and power nearly everything down to conserve power, including the critical guidance computer on board tells them where they are. So they're just going to go blind. Yeah, because battery power was just so critically low. They just had to sacrifice nearly everything.

To get them back to Earth Apollo 13, had the same amount of electricity used to power a coffee maker or a quarter of a modern day microwave. Oh, that's all they were allowed. If they were going to make it three and a half days, we've got to ration it. A quarter of a microwave. So they couldn't even microwave something with the power they've got,

but this has to power a spacecraft 200,000 miles home. With three humans in it. Yes. Faa! It's the same amount of power used for two car headlights. It was another way. You probably... That's all they've got to spread amongst the whole craft.

Wow. And if the battery dies, then so do all three men on board, and they know that. It's got to be very careful. She is. And I guess they probably got to keep the headlights on board and they know that. It's got to be very careful. She is. And I guess they probably got to keep the headlights on otherwise, you know. Well, you can, you know, not we'll see you. Yeah, you might accidentally collect a kangaroo. Exactly, at least put the keep the low beams on.

Yeah. So you see the kangaroo at the very last second. Yeah. Oh, there's a pfft. So they have to turn off nearly every system. There's no lights, no navigation computer, no propulsion system, and the heaters were all turned off and it's fucking cold up there.

Oh my god. It was freezing as they coasted through space in the dark. Fred Hayes on board said it was mid-30s Fahrenheit, which is about two degrees Celsius. That's chilly. They're only wearing cotton bodysuits, so they put on all three sets of spare underwear. They have to keep warm. Gotta keep your jibble warm.

And the two men destined for the moon put on their moon boots. I don't think I've ever ever gone a bit chilly, especially my butt. Mm, what about me? You know, my feet get very cold. Yeah, so if you put in the moon. So you put in the moon boots. You put in the moon boots. But there's only two sets of moon boots, because remember only two of them are going to be in the moon. Why just said my feet get cold?

So I get the moon boots. Shock another moon boots. So am I. Well, I don't have any moon boots. Well, you won't get a moon. I think. I think I don't think my feet could fit into your little... Yeah, I've got tiny moon boots.

Your little moon boots. Like little baby boots. Yeah, they're not moon boots. They're moon booties. It's also damp in there. Just lots of condensation on everything. And to add to the warries, debory and bits of frozen oxygen traveling along with them.

And it twinkles alongside and makes it impossible to see the stars to navigate and get an alignment. So they just got little bits of shit twinkling on the outside. Sounds pretty. It would be beautiful but a little bit scary. And with the guide and system offline, they're not sure even which way they're facing. Look out the window. Where's earth? So weird. Yeah, because they need to be facing the right way. Because Because in this space is no up or down or down. They're using the moon to fling themselves back to earth. And they've got to fire the rocket at the precise moment to get them back to earth. So that makes that very hard. So they have to align themselves with the only thing that they can

see, which is the sun. Oh, they can see the sun, which is less than perfect, but it's better than nothing. And it was the only way to check Jim Lovell's hastily calculated arithmetic that he'd entered into the computer before. Thankfully, the sun came round and it was where that expected it to be. Because the matter was on the other side, you'd be like, oh, no, we're facing the wrong way. Which is, would mean they were heading towards Earth.

Yeah, yeah. I suppose so. They would have saved days of travel. I think they're probably just flying off into nowhere. Oh, I can't. And they'd never come back. So they flew very close to the moon and Jim Lover was pretty down as they flew by because again, he was so close yet so far.

Second time going past and he's not able to get down there. He's felt like crew members who'd never seen the moon up close excitedly shot pictures of it, started filming it. And he was like, what are you guys doing? If we don't get home, you're never going to be able to develop those pictures. And he was like, what are you guys doing? If we don't get home, you're never gonna be able to develop those pictures. And they're like, it's so cool. But if we do make it home,

we can develop these pictures. Yeah, and if we don't, I die and who cares? Yeah. Like, why are you being shut up, Jim? Now's not the time to be a dick, Jim. We've got three days of this. Jeez. On the ground, fly control

have been doing some serious calculations and have come up with a plan to fire the lunar module's propulsion engine. Oh, no, it was just a day before retirement. They're going to fire it up for four and a half minutes to get them back on track towards Earth. They call this the PC plus two burn. Oh, that's a fun, snappy name. This burn would save time on their journey and when get them back to Earth half a day early and

Mean they're able to land in the Pacific Ocean where they've got a navy boat station to pick them up So that's where I threw up. Oh, yeah You might have thrown up just where they were aiming for. Wow This is about me I found it amazing that they are able to choose where they're going to land. Yeah, it's crazy. Like, oh, if we calculate it, the earth will turn this bit and we'll land there. Amazing.

Amazing. So far away. But I should add, it's just a theory because the lam's thrusters aren't designed for this, but rather have been made with the intention to land the smaller lunar module on the moon. Now it has to power the whole craft home. It's got much less thrust than the main engine that they're usually used to. Yeah, right. You want that big thrust.

You want the big thrust. One big thrust. Honestly. That's all it takes. Yeah. For some of it. Honestly, one small thrust. And...

And... And good night. So, I've taught. Yeah, that was nice. Do you enjoy that? Yeah, yeah. Catch you the boy. Same time tomorrow. So it's risky, but it's all they've got and like a lot of things up until this point, they've just got to have a crack.

They had time, they had to time it just right or they could blast off somewhere into space. So they do the burn and amazingly everything looks good. We look like they're track. For a while. They're 230,000 miles and still at least 62 hours away from Earth when the master alarm starts to sound again. Oh, that's your alarm. What alarm? Master alarm. Master Dave Warnock alarm. The environmental control system, their life support system, was alerting the crew that something was drastically wrong in the module.

Turns out it's the level of carbon dioxide in the cabin. Carbon dioxide has built up with every breath out from the three astronauts. The CO2-exailed stays in the cabin, poisoning the crew with their own breath. Wow, that feels like an oversight that they didn't think about that. Well, they must find a way to remove the carbon dioxide. Now, the lunar module has a system, but it's only designed for two people and for a short amount of time. Right.

So, basically, they're expaling CO2 faster than the system can mop it out of the air. So, they've got to start breathing slower. They've got a halted breath for 62 hours. Every... So, one of the three has to hold their breath at any one time. Yeah. Well, they're already extremely tired, cold and hungry,

and have to respond to the ground controls, directions with extreme precision or risk making mistake, the kills are more. And they have to act fast because the CO2 build up threatens to fog their thoughts even more and affect their judgment, which eventually it would put them into a coma and kill them. Not a bad way to go. Yeah, I suppose so. I suppose we're exploding. I don't know. Maybe, maybe each are great. Maybe each are great. How do you choose? They've all got pros in your heart. How do you choose how to die? Like a kid in a candy store.

So many deaths. I'm overwhelmed. Can I get a bit of both? I just want to get a mixed bag of death. Don't take a while. Okay, so lithium hydroxyl is used to remove the CO2. Carbon dioxide reacts to the lithium hydroxide which sucks out of the air as a fan blows through it. And they've got the cylindrical canisters of lithium hydroxide, it fans sucks in the air and then the CO2 when it goes through gets taken out. But each of the canisters are cylindrical as I say and they can only

co they can only soak up so much CO2 like charcoal in a water filter. It can only soak up so much before it becomes saturated. I had a guy in the Smithsonian Channel say that. That's so funny that you were able to put it in the terms that I could understand. I yeah like okay like charcoal in a water filter. Does that make sense? I mean in a similar sort of level that I did already. Yeah. Okay. Well, up in space, they're running low on the canisters.

And during the math, there isn't enough for the rest of the journey. So there's CO2s and they're going to get worse before they die. NASA realizes that there are spare lithium hydroxide canisters over in the command module next door. How convenient. But of course, there is a problem. The modules were built by different companies. In the lunar module, they've got cylindrical canisters

inserted into round holes. Whereas on the command module, they've got square canisters that go into square holes. So they are not compatible. Okay. And an oversight as simple as this means the astronauts lives again, hang in the balance.

So again, they have to improvise and work out how to get a square peg to fit into a round hole. On the ground, like, like sand it down, hammer it in, believe step one, step two, enjoy. I still think my idea was probably better than believe and enjoy. Okay. You're sanding the hole or the Canister can I say okay? What if you send off so much of the surgery just starts leaking out of my problem gonna fit through the Will be your problem, but that's not what I was that's what I was instructed to I was instructed to get this Quay I picked Well done you've done it and your stubbornness means you die great

Thank you You've done it and your stubbornness means you die. Great. Congratulations. Right. Thank you. Ah, sweet relief. So they've got to work out this problem. On the ground, another team was put together to solve this problem. Not a target team, just a regular team this time. They've got to come up with an adapter that the astronauts can use that will allow them to use the square canisters in the round hole.

But of course, they can only use items that are already with them in the lunar module. So on the ground, the engineers get out, all the stuff the astronauts have with them and just start experimenting, taping bits and pieces together. It's a real my guy for them. Also, it sounds like a fun team building activity.

Bit of a fun activity, isn't it? Yeah. They've got spacesuit. Something you do at one of those development days at a different job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, make, yeah, make it work together. What do we learn from that when we work together? We get stuff done. So we've got a chicken. You've got a fox and you've got a pig. Yep. They're all in a boat Uh-huh. On an island. Yes, you've got to get there and back and then you've got to work out how That pig can get into that round hole

Okay, cool. Well pigs are kind of round. Yeah. Okay. So I thought you'd suggest to send it down. No, I used my brain. Yeah. Interesting. I'm going to shove that pig through a hole. Yeah. Because it's already kind of round. That's actually really cool. I'm sorry about that. Thank you. So they've got bits of shit on a table and they're like working, you haven't it? They've got spacesuit bits and instruction booklets, cardboard, duct tape, a sock are all considered.

They're like, they got socks up there. They thought about stuffing a sock into the hole around the canister and then duct taping it in place to be airtight, but it didn't quite work. Other parts were flown in from across the country on especially charted flights as dozens of the world's most skilled engineers workshopped potential solutions, basically playing craft together. It took two days of experimenting and practice before they thought they'd found the correct solution. Wow, then they, two days, wouldn't they air of Ron Amber? Yeah, oh, it's getting worse and worse at all time. Crew systems chief Ed Smiley is the man

who comes up with a solution using a plastic bag, some duct tape, the cardboard cover from the flight plan and a hose from one of the spacesuits. The idea is the plastic bag is taped over the square canister to create an airtight seal. The hose is then fed into a hole cut into the bag, which is also sealed with duct tape, and then attached to a fan, this creates a vacuum that draws the oxygen through.

Great, in theory. But because NASA rarely leaves anything to chance, when the plan was decided upon, a procedure and a checklist had to be created. And then the Apollo 13 backup crew on Earth were given the instructions in a simulator to see if they could create the device. Meanwhile, the people of in space are dead.

They're like, Pat, use your dead. The good news is we know how to save you three weeks ago. The next time. But it's not such a symbol undertaking because the crew on board can't see anyone at NASA. There's no video link. There's no way to send images. Can you just face time?

Unfortunately, face time is down. Fucking apple. Oh my god, what are the chances? All they're able to be given is a list of carefully written instructions. And an astronaut on the ground, Joe Kerwin, is the one task we're trying to guide them over the radio. Kerwin has, he's practised it himself

over and over again, so he... That's also like a team building exercise. Yes, describing... I can't see, I've got the plans, and you've got the pieces, and I have to explain to you what to make. Yeah, that's a nightmare honestly. And the instructions are also one step further removed because they were a real a

current on the ground radios to swig it who then repeats the instructions to Jim Lovell who's got all the stuff. So it's like I tell Matt and then you describe to Jess what to do with the bits and pieces. Like a version of telephone or something. Yes. How quickly would we have a breakdown slash argument? Oh, pretty quick. Yeah, especially if I'm the one making something, I'm going to snap it you real quick. All of you good at charades? Yes.

Well, I think that would work. Okay, great. Because it's that only we can talk. Oh, yeah, okay. All right, it should be fine. It's a movie. It's the Godfather. Is it the Godfather? Yes. We're knowing. We're so good at this. Wow, we, okay. All right, it should be fine. It's a movie. It's the Godfather. Is it the Godfather?

Yes. We're now in the world. We're so good at this. Wow, we're great. All of the transcripts have been published by NASA, so I'll read out some of the instructions. This is what Kerwin says. Pick up one of the lithium hydroxide canisters

and let me describe which end is which. It's approximately square on one. One of the vented flat ends has the strap and that end we call the top. The other end opposite we call the bottom. Is that clear? Over? Yes. And the later one he says, I forgot to tell you to get something to stick in that hole. We recommend you either use a wet wipe or cut off a piece of sock and stuff it in there.

Or you can probably even crumble up some tape and use that. Over. So you got option. I've got option. That was nice actually. Love that. Forgot to got options. There's nice actually. Well, that forgot to tell you put something in there. It takes an hour, but they're able to build the device which looks so homemade. They nickname the mailbox. It's a box covered in tape with a cardboard book cover over the top and a host sticking out. I'm supposed to photo in our socials this week. That I mean, I can't imagine how sweet oxygen would taste.

If you thought you'd never have it again. Yes. I mean, I have no idea. It's like when you're really thirsty, or you haven't had a drink for a while, and then you have a drink, and you can feel it go down, and you're like,

I feel it into your tongue, and you feel it go all the way down, you're like, woo! That'd be chug-a-logging that oxygen. Oh, go, go, go, go. I shouldn't take it for granted right now. Yeah, how's that? Oh, yeah.

Tastes good. Well, they're not safe yet. Because it's taken two days of testing to get to this point. And by the time they have worked it out, the CIO2 alarm, it's no longer going off. It's not flashing anymore. It's now on all the time. Like when you're a petrol warning light to stays on

It's now all on the line Things are desperate and they pray that device works so they test it out and the CO2 begins to drop It's worked. Yes. Oh my god. So another problem solved Few! Tick tick tick. They're on fire here not literally not literally what anymore, but they are freezing They are hungry. They are thirsty and they are very tired from all the constant problem solving Fred Hayes tells Mission Control he hasn't slept for 28 hours. Where are they now? They have a lap lap the moon yet? They've lapped the moon and they're just about to enter Earth's gravitational pull

Which will then speed the craft up towards this destination First thousands of miles and then, first thousands of miles, and then tens of thousands of miles per hour. Whoa, that's fast. They're on the home straight, but Fred Hayes is not in a good way because he's also developed a urinary tract infection up there. The Grand Cray worry that with the lack of sleep, the astronauts aren't themselves firing on all cylinders, something they'll need to do to re-enter the Earth's atmosphere safely.

Because it turns out the hardest part might yet be to come. Oh my god. Another problem comes up. NASA discovers that they're off course and will enter the Earth at two shallow of an angle, which means they would bump off the upper layer of the Earth's atmosphere. Oh, okay. And what is that? That's what.

And then you bump off and then fly off into space. Oh, imagine after doing all this, you just get bumped off into space. I thought when you first said that they would bump off, they would knock off a layer of atmospheres sort of fucking everyone over. Oh no, they've bumped off one of our layers. Oh, good one. Great. Dick Hedge.

Yes. Thanks. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. Watch where you're going. Thanks a lot. Would you watch where you're floating, please? Please.

Come on. Gosh. So they're a little bit off course. They've got to do another burn. This one for 14 seconds. They're forced to use gym levels wristwatch to keep time. I mean, yeah.

That's all they've got up there. Their forescene provides having to keep time with a watch. But usually they're like you know it's very precise and they've got nothing. Everything's turned off so they're like all right I'll time it. The burn seems to go well but with the lack of power and board it also means there's a lack of data between the module and the earth so it will be hours before they know if they're back on course or if they've made themselves via wildly away.

With the scale of this large, even a tiny mistake could result in them missing the earth altogether, and they... How did that just slowly passing the earth? Oh, you can really... Or not actively... Quickly passing the earth. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo The burn was good. The back on track. But then they've got the final hurdle, which could be the trickiest, the landing. Got to stick the landing. And the ocean in this case. Exactly.

Now, the lunar module is serve them well as a lifeboat, keeping them alive for a few days, but it's not designed to take the extreme forces of landing back on Earth, like I said, the reentry, it will burn up. For this, the crew must get back into the much sturdier command module next door. Remember though, the command module is dead having been completely shut down. Something it's not designed to do mid-flight and they're not sure they can get it powered back up for reentry. So now they have to hope to go out that they have enough power to power it back up. Because what would happen if they if it all failed they just

bounce they wouldn't go fast enough and they would be able to break through the atmosphere sort of. Yes they'd either go at an angle it's too shallow and they'd bounce off, or the other option is that the angle is not right and that it would get too hot. Even with the most protection you can have, they would burn up. Basically, yeah. So you either bounce off or you burn up, because you've got to get exactly right. Right. It's very precise. I don't like things that are very precise.

Like a lot of baking and stuff, you have to be quite precise. And I'm like, oh, too hard. I'll piss off. Yeah, I like things that are very precise. Like a lot of baking and stuff, you have to be quite precise. And I'm like, oh, too hard. I'll piss off. Yeah, I like to wing it a bit. This is why I'm not an astronaut. Frey Paul. Yeah.

Frey Paul Perkins, they call you. It's me. To make matters worse, Jess, normally the command module is three batteries used to specifically power it during a reentry. I mentioned those at the top, because these were used in the early minutes after the explosion to keep everything powered up, because they had nothing else. They went, I'll use the batteries.

So the batteries are drained. Usually, they use that for reentry. You're going to jump a cable or something? Yeah, they need some cables. I just sort of kicked that problem down the road a bit. Yeah, it's future then, probably. Yeah, that's right. That was four days ago.

Yeah. Without the batteries, they can't control their reentry, which needs to be extremely precise to stop burning up. Like I said, John Aaron, Cilliard missile man, Oh my god. Has to come up with a way to recharge the batteries. He spoke to the team rationing the power and worked out that had been holding back a tiny bit of power for an emergency.

And this, he says, this is the emergency. He finds a way to... No shit, John Aaron. Oh, you don't eat no, let's save it. See if a bigger emergency comes up later. He found that out. Like they were, I do think we should, we were holding it for an emergency. He's like, yeah, this is it.

I need this now. Thanks, John. Thank God you're here. He finds a way to spread the power, which is equal to powering a hair dryer for two hours. That's all it is across the system. That takes a lot. Yeah, that takes a lot.

Two hours is actually a really long time to be drawing your hair. Yeah, how long is his hair? Far out. What does this buddy want? It takes me like less than 10 minutes. That's a lot of time. You sit there drawing every 10 minutes. Maybe.

Why don't you just like leave it? Oh, you don't want to see it when a 10 minutes. Maybe. Why don't you just leave it? Oh, you don't want to see it when I leave it. No? Well, all of a sudden, I want to see it when you leave it. Yeah. That's intriguing. So in order to achieve this outcome, he has to read out a series of very explicit instructions

that involve dozens and dozens of switches being pushed in precisely the right order to keep the power at the right level. If they stuff it up, the battery would be stretched through thin and they'll lose power and then they will die. Powering up the command module before takeoff usually takes two or three days going through a checklist. Very precisely. That's a long checklist. And no one has ever done it in orbit before. Now time is extremely against them. So on the ground, they joke that up in space,

they'll have their instructions by Sunday or Monday at the latest. The joke being that they were due to touch down on Friday. What a fun joke. Bit of fun. You know how before you said that every problem they solved, the probability increased from 10%. What are that now?

It feels like 10% might have been overselling it back then. Yeah, I think it was even less. It feels like by now they're like 11%. Yeah, that's why I've gone up a bit maybe up to 22% or something. 17 hours before touchdown, command at gym level becomes frustrated because they haven't rated up the instructions and they can see the earth getting closer and closer. But back at flight control, they're dotting their eyes, crushing their teeth, making sure everything's right. Because it's got to be perfect. Finally, the power-up procedure is given to the crew. Ken Mattingley, who was meant to join the crew,

but was bumped due to measles exposure, was heavily involved with the procedure and read it out over the radio to his former crewmate. He spread and rebellion at everybody. Yeah, I'm guessing it turned out he didn't get it. He didn't get it. He didn't get it. And remember, he's the command module pilot and this is the command model. So this is, he's fielded expertise.

He's a wonder, yeah, does he feel good or bad that he missed out at this point? He could feel pretty good. I think he'd feel pretty good. Yeah, I'm good. I'm okay missing out on this experience. Yeah, I'll take the next one. Yeah. But Tom Hanks is playing him or Nick, I'm good. I'm okay missing out on this this experience. Yeah, I'll take the next one. But Tom Hanks isn't playing him or Nick Kempbayon's not playing him.

What would matter more to me, I think? Yeah, that's right. He could have had Kevin Bacon. Yeah, he could have been stuck in a little module, cold and hungry and pretty sure you're gonna die. He could have had that. A couple of days. A couple of days.

What's a couple of days? It's a blip. Yeah. I've heard the instructions that he reads out. It's very detailed. Jack Swigett, who replaced Madeline on board, takes note of the instructions and writes them on scraps of paper and on other manuals he can find. He must be careful to write down exactly the right instruction because they're not doing it step by step just yet. They're getting ready to do it the next day for entry. So that's why it's so important. He takes careful note to go get everything in order. So you read it out to me Matt, it's

not like I'm doing it in real time. I'm writing it down to do tomorrow. So I've got to write everything correctly in order and he's doing it on scraps of paper. And I guess they're doing it ahead of time just in case they lose communication or... Yeah, and probably also you could probably ask questions like what's that mean? It takes two and a half hours to read out the instructions and finally, Swi thinks he's ready. With the Earth learning larger and larger, the crew have some much needed rest

before the final challenge. Jeez. That a, geez, if you get to sleep there, you're doing pretty well, okay. But after that long, I suppose. Oh, you'd be naked. Yeah, just does off. So remember, there's three bits that make up the craft.

There's the lunar module that have been sheltering in. That's attached by a cylinder to the service module and the control module, which are one piece. They'll re-enter in the service module, but they no longer need the control module, which they jettison. They just break off a little bit. It's basically been a dead weight this whole time, but they had to keep it there. And only when they jettison the module, do they get a glimpse of the damage caused by the explosion. Before this, they only heard parts of it. They couldn't see it.

And it's way worse than they expected. They see one whole side of it as missing. They basically see a panel blown off and basically a quarter of the spacecraft gone. I hope this snappin a few. Yeah, there's a photo of it. Yeah. Wow. And I think that's what NASA bases a lot of their investigation on the one photo. And they can't believe what they're saying. It's way worse than they thought. Seeing how much damage has been sustained and you worry dawns on them, what if the heat shield, the fiberglass and resin used to protect them from the 3000 degree temperatures of reentry has also been damaged? Oh, shit. They're like, we've got no idea. Oh, shit. It's designed to burn

off in layers and keep the heat away from the astronauts inside. Any damage to Stan could mean the system fails and the crew get instantly incinerated. So they just have to hope. Terrifying. After another 23 second burn, the crew are back on target and with two hours to go, it's the moment of truth. Can they power back up the command module in time for reentry? And this process is going to take quite a while before they know it's worked or not? Yeah. But they can't do it too early because they don't have enough power.

Yeah. So it's like, oh god. Swig it, steps up and goes through these scribbled notes and checklists to get electricity flowing, flicking switches, and powering things on in a very specific order, or whilst floating in the freezing conditions. It's so cold that there's condensation everywhere and the desk is wet with water. Oh my God. He wipes it down, but worries an electrical fire could break out.

He also had only half a cup of water to drink, so would you just start collecting it? Yeah, I'd look it up. Look at instruments. Yeah, just put a plastic bag around the gum, I'd look it up. Look at that. Looking instruments. Yeah, just put a plastic bag around the gum waves or whatever like you do on the bush. Yeah, like you do the bush. So you just can drink that water thing.

Put the plastic bag around the gum waves. And it's easy. It's. And Jack's Wigit has to do it alone as John Aaron's procedure calls for the radio to be switched off to save power. So that's another reason that it had maddenly already gave him the instructions. They can't be on the radio at the same time. They've been listening to K Rock the whole time.

So down on earth, they're like just in a blackout being like, I hope, hope it's going well. Hope it's going well out there. Thankfully, nothing shorts out. Swig, it does everything perfectly. And electricity starts to flow through the command module. Whoa. He's able to turn the radio back on and pass on the good news.

They're back, baby. Holy shit. Now the command module is back online, running on battery power. They must jettison the lunar module that has been their refuge for three and a half days. That would be emotional. No big, big sad. Yeah. They grabbed a couple of souvenirs.

Buy house. Jim Lovell took an optical sight, which is the thing you'd lined up where they were. Fred took some netting. Fun. Good on your Fred. It feels like the end of the Wizard of Oz sort of thing. I'm netting. You get some netting.

And then they jettison the lamb. Back at NASA, Joe Kerwin speaks for everyone and says into the radio, farewell, Aquarius, and we thank you. That's beautiful. It's nice. It's time for Belltree, you know, from the heart. Don't cry, Matt. It's okay. That was emotional. Hey, um, No, it's embarrassing when you cry. Stop it. It'll be like, yeah, don't feel feelings. Yep. Now, all three men are back in the command module.

They're only one hour away from the upper atmosphere of the earth, and they don't know, but the world is watching. Oh, finally. Oh, yeah, it's okay. It's like done. Well, no one cared enough to about the mission to carry Jim Lovell's tour of the module, since the explosion, Apollo 13 has become massive news around the world.

And now millions tune in across the planet to watch their risky reentry. Yeah, that's not right. Thanks for watching this. Thanks for watching when we might die. Thanks, heaps. In the USA, I'll own up to 70 million people tuned in for the reentry.

Pope John Paul VI led a congregation of 10,000 people in praying for the astronauts safe return. Ten times that number offered prayers at a religious festival in India. Wow. The United States Senate on April 14 passed a resolution urging businesses to pause at 9pm local time that evening to allow for employee prayer. I mean, he's working at 9pm, not many people. He had a prayer power.

I wonder if the prayers got it done. Let's find out. They start the reentry. And during this part, the astronauts actually face backwards towards the moon that they came so close to landing on. They're traveling at eight kilometers per second, at this point. That's fast.

And everyone has to hope that all the calculations have been spot on, and the heat shield hasn't been damaged. They then enter what is known as the blackout. The time where the module is so hot, it's surrounded by a wall of fire that blocks any radio signals coming in and out. Never heard of this before. Things are amazing. NASA could calculate to the second

when this blackout starts and when it should stop. They calculate that they'll lose contact with the crew for exactly three minutes. But after three minutes, they don't hear anything. This has never happened before. Usually it's exactly precise. If it's going to be two minutes 18, they go bang after the two minutes 18, they start talking again. But the blackout this time doesn't stop as predicted. they hear nothing. 10 seconds goes by. Imagine there, I think in the worst. 30 seconds go by, they start to worry at this point.

Are the crew still alive? A full minute goes by. It seems to last an eternity. I think everyone in mission control is like, oh shit. Finally, after one minute and 27 seconds, they hear on the radio, Jack Swaggit say, okay, Joe, shit. Finally, after one minute and 27 seconds, they hear on the radio, Jack Swaggett say, okay, Joe, they are alive. Next up was the deployment of two sets of parachutes.

They're worried that they might be frozen. They deploy perfectly and the mission control erupts, their men are safe. Oh my God. Oh my God. And magic of the parachutes fail. Oh no. They made it all that way. traveled hundreds of thousands of miles only to have you parachute.

Even more incredibly Apollo 13 splash down into the Pacific Ocean, just south of Samoa was one of the most accurate in the history of the Apollo program. No kidding. That was. There were just four miles away from the Iwo gym and naval ship designed to pick them up. Four miles easy peasy. Four miles. They get into the life raft, gym level the commander of the ship making sure that he's the last to leave. In his own words, the commander is always the last to leave a sinking ship. Well, not in recent. No, not in South Africa. He also describes the total surprise that met him because they don't know that people have been following this story. This is from Jim level. Nobody

believes me, but during this six day odyssey, we had no idea what an impression Apollo 13 made on the people of Earth. We never dreamed a billion people were following us on television and radio and reading about us in ban ahead lines of every newspaper published. Only when we reached Honolulu, we comprehended our impact. There we found President Richard Nixon and NASA Administrator Dr. Painto meet us, along with my wife Marilyn, Fred Wife's Mary, who being pregnant also had a doctor along in lieu of his usual airline stewardess. What a sledge! Absolutely. Jack's folks are here, not one of his flusers.

It's also funny adding the detail of like, well, his wife is pregnant, so she did have a doctor with her just to get, it's like, yeah, okay, that's fine. You're okay, okay. But yeah, in Mission Control. Just imagine, I just not knowing that, did you mention that before, but the whole time been pregnant waiting for your partner

to hopefully come back alive. Oh my God, terrifying. I mean, for Lonnie, with or without the pregnancy, but honestly, if I was pregnant and my partner was like, I'm just gonna pop to space for a bit, I'd be like, no, you're fucking not. I don't care that it's your dream. Ha ha ha ha ha.

Absolutely not. They've gone out the window. You're staying in my house. You've got a new parents. Yeah. And you know what? Actually, you want to go on an adventure. I feel like there's some pickles in a doughnut.

So why don't you go get those? I get that stupid idea out of your head. Okay, great. See, soon with pickles and a doughnut There the kind of cravings you reckon you'll get I don't know pickles and a donut never know the kind of cravings I get now No, I want to do that you pregnant me. I'm starting wonder I'm back at mission control. They had their traditional celebration cigars all around Hundreds of them all did up their official mission cigar at the same time. Fisher mission cigar.

I hate that. Good on him, but President Richard Nixon awarded the presidential medal of freedom to the Apollo 13 crew shortly after the conclusion of their mission. There has received multiple bravery awards around the country and were given various honorary doctorates. All three men are inductees of the International Space Hall of Fame. Wow. Their mission was classified as a successful failure because of the experience gained in rescuing the team. Wow. What a positive spirit. Look at how much we learned. And Isn't that part of the journey? Jim Lovell retired from the Navy and the space program on March 1, 1973 and went to work at the Bay Houston Towing Company in Houston, Texas, taking on the role of CEO in 1975.

He became president of Fisk Telephone Systems in 1977 and later worked for Centell Corporation in Chicago, retiring as executive vice president on January 1, 1991. He did all right. In 1999, the love of family opened a restaurant in Lake Forest, Illinois called Lovels of Lake Forest. The restaurant displayed memorabilia from Lovell's time with NASA and the filming of Apollo 13, the film. It closed in 2015 and the memorabilia was Lovell's time with NASA and the filming of Apollo 13, the film. It closed in 2015 and the memorabilia was auctioned off. As well as the presidential medal of freedom, he is a recipient of the congressional space

medal of honor. He co-authored the 1994 book Lost Moon with Jeff Kluger on which the 1995 film Apollo 13 was based. Tom Hanks, of course, played him in the film. The biggest honor, according to Matt. I think so, yeah. America's father. You're right. America's daddy.

And Lovell was featured in a cameo appearance in the movie, appearing as Captain of the Recovery Ship USS Iwo Jima. Director Ron Howard had intended to make him an admiral, but Lovell, himself having retired as a captain, chose to appear in his actual rank. That's fun. That's rank. That's cool. That's cool. I like that. His wife, Marilyn, level also met a cameo appearance among the spectators during the

launch sequence. He's still alive age 94. No way. And when he spoke to the BBC in 2020, he was asked about what it was like looking back 50 years later. He said in trademark understatement, looking back on my life, I can leave it with a sense of achievement, inadvertently perhaps,

somehow I happen to step into the right spot at the right time and be thankful that I can look back and say, hey, I did it. I accomplished a little bit of something unusual. Jesus. Then we have Jack Swigget, who was played by Kevin Bacon.

He's shown as a bit slightly gung-ho and a little bit inept in the movie, but I read that in reality he basically wrote the manual for the command module, so this was just Hollywood exaggeration. That would be frustrating. Yeah, this guy doesn't know what he's doing. Yeah. Just flukin' it. No, I'm very good at what I see.

Yeah, no actually, people consult me about the safety of this craft. Yeah. He ran for a political officer a about the safety of this craft. Yeah. He ran for a political officer a couple of times after the mission. Wow. It's actually quite a common thing that I found for US astronauts to seek political office after their retire. That's interesting. Swiggett ran for Congress in Colorado and was elected,

but tragically he had died from cancer just a week before taking office. Oh, man. And he was only 51, so he never got to see Kevin Bacon. Oh, OK. So that's OK. You can get the speech. Someone's now. Yeah, that's not good. Yeah, whatever. Family who. Yeah. Yeah, whatever.

15 astronauts, including Apollo 13 crewmates, gym level and Fred Hayes were among the thousand mourners at his full military-honored funeral in Denver and he was honored with a fly over from the Colorado National Guard. Wow. Fred Hayes went on to fly five space shuttle approach and landing tests in 1977 and retired from NASA in 1979 after which he became a test pilot and executive with Grumman Aerospace Corporation where he remained until he retired in 1996. Roman Aerospace Corporation where he remained until he retired in 1996. He's also still alive, H88, was played by Bill Paxton. Wow, that's pretty cool, that two of them are still alive. Yeah, I was wondering if there were any long term health effects of the ordeal, but it sounds

like not that negative. No, anyway. Two or three are still alive and lived very long lives. Yeah. Ken Mattingley, who was taken off the mission due to being exposed to measles, later flew as command module pilot for Apollo 16 and made 64 lunar orbits, making him one of 24 people ever to a flown to the moon. Wow.

So he got there. I'm happy for Ken. Good on him. During Apollo 16's return flight to Earth, Mattingly performed an extra vehicular activity EVA, which is where you actually do a space walk on the outside. Oh! To retrieve film cassettes from the exterior of the spacecraft, the command and service module. It was the second deep space EVA in history.

A great distance from any planetary body. He's still alive age 86 as well. Wow! He's... That's kind of cool. And he's still alive age 86 as well. Wow. He's that's kind of cool. He's played by Gary Seneison in the movie. Oh, yes. So that's my report on Apollo 13. I just want to say if people want to find out more, there's a fantastic podcast

made by the BBC called 13 seconds to the moon. Second season of that is awesome was is about this. And you can check that out on the BBC website or podcast app or a documentary I loved called 13 factors that saved Apollo 13. And if you just want to watch the Hollywood movie, it's awesome. I loved it. I haven't seen it on anything. It's really really good. I think the blue mind about it. So it was made in 1995. That is closer to the time of the disaster than we are to that movie now. Yeah. More time has passed since the movie. Holy shit. It was only 25 years after the disaster,

but 27 have passed since the movie. So I was like, what the hell? That's pretty cool. So yeah, but that is my report on Apollo 13. Well done Dave, honestly. Well done Dave, block tack, tackula. That's right, I think that word count wise is my longest report ever.

So you gotta pull these things out for block. Oh you do. I wasn't sure what was gonna happen because I couldn't remember if it was a disaster it was a disaster but if it was like if they all died and honestly it was ruined when you said he wrote a book about it. Oh you didn't know. No I didn't know.

So that was very exciting. Maybe I did that bit out though. No. Yeah very exciting stuff. What a story well done Dave. A successful no, no. Yeah, very exciting stuff. What a story, well done, Dave. A successful failure. I love it. That could be the title of my autobiography.

What a fantastic report that was, they've loved hearing about Tom Hanks and what he got up to. What a guy, Tom Hanks. I love Tom Hanks. And before we move on to everyone's favorite section of the show, Christmas is coming up soon. Christmas, as you might say, and we have a tradition of sending out a Patreon, Christmas

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And they've I think at least one on every continent made it right. Yeah, I think that's the sentence photos in Japan and they've said I don't have to go with them. A lot of yeah, like the vast majority of them do make it. But yeah, we do hear sometimes that they arrive two or three years late. But exciting, isn't it? Well like 98% of people. And what a way to incentivize people.

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come along, get festive, and then afterwards you can go have a dinner in the city. I can't wait for that. Frickin' love Christmas. I don't know if you know that about me. I finish work at 6 p.m. on Saturdays. So it's exciting for listeners, I guess, make a game of it. Will you beat Jess to the venue?

Probably. Yeah, probably. Will, Dave and I beat you there. Hopefully, because someone's got to set up. Someone's got to set up. I'll be there, don't worry. It might be me, because I will be at work. We'll be on stage waiting with our Christmas hats on, and as you run into the venue, we'll say, hello and welcome to another Christmas special.

And while we're telling people about things, my first ever stand up special taping recording nailed out, is gonna go out live on the Stupid Old Channel online for free. And it's gonna be premiered if you wanna watch it with me and others on the Stupid Old Channel, Wednesday the 26th of October at 8 p.m. Melbourne time. You're gonna watch it live with the audience.

No, well, I mean, just when you premier something, you can check something that we've done together before. Many times, yeah, you can chat along. You can chat along, yeah, doing that. I probably won't be watching, but I'll be a chat. Yeah, right. Now, I'm a bit of a chat and be like, just wait for this punchline. Here it comes. Wow, wasn't that great. And then I'll be like, oh, yeah, I should have written a punchline for that bit. Yeah. Sort of just fades out a bit, doesn't it? It's like live commentary.

So that's the 26th of October. Remember remember the 26th of October. Remember remember the 26th of October. Remember, remember, the 26th of October. And you can watch that and get pumped up because you can see Matt live in the UK with me, also doing stand up and our podcast, Booksheet and who knew it with Matt Stewart. And a little tour we're doing around the UK in November, starting on the 8th and November, running through to the 20th and between those two dates, we'll be in Birmingham, Glasgow, Leeds, Manchester,

Bristol and London. I don't think they say between over in the UK, they say between the 8th and November, the 20th of November. Of those locations, how many can I expect a magnet to be brought back from? Oh, well, I guess that depends on how many magnets the audience members bring. If you want to give you. Oh, great.

Yeah, perfect. I'd welcome that. They bring gifts to give to you. I love it. Yeah. We'll bring in one spare bag and empty bag with us to fill with. If you have any gifts that you want to give to me,

you cannot do it in person, unfortunately, as I will not be there. But you can pass them on to my bag boys and they will bring it home for me. I absolutely promise we'll do that for you. Thank you. Jess you are of course. If you want to bring things that are a bio hazard and you want to get Dave pulled over in security, feel free. I'm talking dirt. I'm talking bananas. Clippings from plants.

Batcheries. Batcheries. Yeah, I'm talking food. Bag of acid. Bag of acid. If you want to give Dave a flimsy plastic bag of acid, please. Hurry on only.

Somehow he gets through security and then you've got a I've got a bag of acid. That will be karma. I feel like such a fool. Just you I mean obviously the invitation still there for you to come with us. Yeah. What are you still thinking about it? I I never said no. But the tickets were booked. No, no, I have it. I have it. I have a job unfortunately that I do not have enough annual leave. Hey, no, I have it. I have it. I have a job, unfortunately, that I do not have enough annual leave. Hey, but don't worry, we'll be bringing those magnets back

for you. Yes, that's all I ask. And bags of acid. So yeah, just to recap, if you would like to receive a do-go-on Christmas card, make sure you join the Patreon.com Fortslash-Douga on Pod by the end of October. We need a bit of time to get them to you. So by 31st of October is the cut off. Halloween, that's the spookiest day of the year.

Oh my goodness. Oh, and yes, we have Christmas shows, we have a UK tour. All of that information is on our website, JuggonPod.com. All right, now that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show, where we get to just spend a little bit of time with our fantastic supporters And if you want to be a supporter you can go to patreon.com such do go on pod and Yeah, there's a bunch of different levels Dave, what are some things you can get involved issue if you're there different levels different rewards some of them include You get to vote on topics two out of the three topics voted for by the petron supporters, so you get to steer what we

talk about on the show of course. You can join a Facebook group which is very very lovely, honestly, it's just the only nice bit about Facebook for me. You can I get three bonus episodes a month as well as access instantly to the back catalog, which is now over 150 bonus episodes, there's reports, there's quizzes, there's who knew it's with Matt Stewart, there's all sorts of things on there, and of course, phrasing the bar. That's right, and now, if you're involved on any level,

you can submit questions for who knew it and that's sure as well. Unless you just said that, I was distracted by Jess's dog. I didn't say that, but it's so cute. He was so quiet and playing peacefully until we started recording and now he's like, I'm going to throw this loud toy. He's like, oh, Mike's wrong. Around the room a lot. So yeah, the first thing we like to do for one of our great supporters or the levels is the Sydney Shawneburg level. If you're involved

on that level, you get to give us a factor quote or a question in the section that I like to call fact quote or question. And that's a jingle, go somewhere else. Fact quote or question. Always remembers the ding. Always remembers the jingle. And yeah, get involved via the Sydney Shawneburg level, then you get to give us a fact-quoted question or a brag or a suggestion, or really whatever you like. One week someone gave us a recipe. And you also get to give yourself a nickname or a title. And this week, the first one comes from Andrew,

but I go by Andy Swibes. And Andy Swibes has given himself the title of Senior Junior President of I Drive, near or or Through Gary a lot because I live in Chicago Oh the windy city. Wow. What a privilege to drive near or through Chicago obviously and also through Gary Yeah, I mean I wouldn't drive through it. I drive into it and remain there forever Forever. I would die there. I would die there. I would live there first. According to reports for a long time. No, I would live there a long happy life and then I would die there. I would die there. I would live there first. I called it to report for a long time No, I would live there a long happy life and then I would die there of an old age and thank goodness

I'm in my sleep. Yeah peacefully. Yeah, and everyone would say well, I'm glad she loved her time in Gary India And Andrew has also Andy swabs has offered us a brag, which is this. This may come as a shock to, this may come as a shock to you, but I drive through Gary, Indiana, frequently. Oh, you gave a lot of this away, you're total. In fact, I posted on the Facebook page that I was able to see my niece at her first railcats game. Oh!

Wait, what? I got to see my niece at her as in she played for the railcats game. Oh! Wait, what? I got to see my niece at her. As in, she played for the railcats. Keep reading up. Maybe you'll get answers. Can't wait for the pod to come to Chicago. No, okay, you won't get answers. I happen to know a time about Chicago

and that bit of Indiana in and around Gary. That's my favorite bit of Indiana. If you have any questions, and when you come, cheers Andrew, sorry Andy Swabs. I thank you. Wow. You brought a little joy. So this old man.

Wow. And your niece may play for the Gary into a room. I reckon maybe they. This is the first game she went and sold. I reckon. That's my guess. Either way, fantastic. Thank you very much Andy swabs this one comes from Tessa chillcock Okay, really running out of imagination so

When my mom would go through a lot of different cousins names and my sister Before getting to my name should say I live no hey no Emmy no wait Tessa I live no hey no, Imitate no wait Tessa. I used to hear that from my mom and you said go give it Tomat. Yeah, Tomat oh. Tomat. This is kind of what I thought up my name was for all. And Tessa has given us a quote. This quote is, tell me and I forget, teach me and I remember, involves me and I forget teach me and I remember Involve me and I learn

Oh, just maybe that's something that you could keep in mind when dealing with your dog And that quote comes from one and only Benj Aiman Frank Lahn Wow my favorite poet Benj Aiman Frank Lahnin. Yeah. Any relation? Is he a president or is he an inventor? No, not a president, but an inventor. An inventor. Well, but also like a founding father.

Yeah. You're right. Yeah, so you can see why I get mixed up with it. Yeah, so I think people frequently. And I think he's on. He's on money like a president. That's right. Benjamin's.

They're $100 bills probably, Or $10 bills depending on, I think it's, people say spending Benjamin's. Oh man. He's on the $100. 100, wow. Wow, he's, geez. Who are you? Who are you talking about money?

Probably in movies. Oh, I must be in movies. Nobody we know would have $100 bills. Probably pop stars. Yeah, they're probably sleep on Benjamin's Swimming and I must be nice probably bored of them must be very very nice Thank you Tessa fantastic quote next one comes from Nick Fedion Okay, master if we're getting to submit a fact quote or question. Hmm. It's a journey. It's tough. I mean yeah it's sort of like a contradictory title there as this is you doing that thing. Interesting. Makes you think lies.

Nick's asking a question writing, I keep forgetting to submit these and then when I go to I struggle to think of something and then fear that I'm going to end up submitting something I or someone else has already submitted before especially if it's fact But this in mind What is your go-to fun or interesting fact mine? He goes on a answer is I love that. Thank you Thank you mine Which I think I've submitted before is that in the time it takes less than a 500 miles by the proclaimers the International Space Station will have traveled 500 miles and then 500 more. Get absolutely fucked. If you've told us

that fact before I don't recall it. I've never heard that fact in my life and I love it. I love it too. Are you kidding me because I love that song? La da da da. La da fun. La da da da. Every time they say that, they're troubled like pretty nice. That's crazy. Wow. That's so good. Nick Fiddy and fantastic. Thank you Nick. Here's the thing Nick, you're worried about submitting something that other people already have or that maybe you haven't before. That doesn't mean I'm remembering it. In fact, I definitely won't. So every new fact you tell me is new to me.

That's like, Rasson recently posted in the Patreon group. Oh, they read out my fact two weeks in a row and didn't even notice. We did, though. Did we? We did, we did. I did, actually, surprisingly.

We, yeah, we recalled it. We were both saying, whoa, what is it, not nostalgia? It's deja vu. deja vu. But to that end, Nick, I don't have a go-to fun fact because my memory is shit. So I can't even, like on the spot, I can't think of a fun fact. The fun fact I think of but can't really recall was given in the fact, for quote, a question section a year or two ago, and it was a bad day, maybe you can, and I think I've become really recall was given in the fact for quote a question section a year or two ago And it was about Dave maybe you can and I think it was about me

No, I was about you, but it was about time and I think maybe it was something like What you mentioned in the seven wonders of the world thing I clear patch on the iPod that's what I was thinking I'm right there And so clear patch was born closer to the invention of the iPod than the creation of The pyramids of Giza. Faa actually closer in time to us now. That's yeah I thought of that too when he said fact I was like because that's the most recent one. I've said here's a fact You're like I've got one. It's funny because I I could remember the pyramids

I could remember Cleopatra and I remember that it was something about time and that's not enough to say out loud. It's not bad though is it? Did he hear the pub? The club Patcher and the iPod, they're far apart but not that far. I don't even have the iPod bit though. Right you take Claire Patcher in time. I just feel pretty good. It was good called fun facts and the number one's come up is it's impossible. It's possible for most people to lick their own elbow. Most people because I fucking can't. You can do it. Sorry I read over your shoulder there.

I got excited. Another fun fact that I think of sometimes is how one bats shit cubes. Oh yeah, that is fun. And the final fact, I'll tell you your asshole, hey, unless I've got square shaped. Must hurt your asshole, hey. Every time I say hey now, I think because every time I do it you do that No, but it reminds me of when I was a teenager and I started saying like a lot and every time I said like my mum would go like

That's fun and she sort of beat it out of me that way so now I'm not being out. I'm trying to beat it into you way. So now I'm not being out I'm trying to beat it into you. You're trying to copy me trying to be like me. Yeah. Is how I'm choosing to take that. Trying to beat beat it into me. I'm trying. Anyway next. Finally this week. Oh this is an interesting one. I don't read this so read them. The final one comes from Dave Warnocky, open bracket, best host, close bracket. Okay. Dave, have you signed up on the... I have. I support you. Do you guys support me? Yeah, in so many ways.

Well Matt supports you emotionally. I physically carry you everywhere. Thank you so much. I hate stairs. Dave's title that he's given himself is definitely not a virgin. Wow. And he's offered a brag. You're going to have to explain what's going on after I answer it. I will explain.

The brag is I promise I had sex at least one time, books forever. It does sound like him. I've heard him say books forever. And it does sound like me. I've definitely had sex. So this is definitely sad that you've had. No, it's a break. Fuck should have been a fact. Damn it. What was I thinking?

Okay, I can explain what's happened to you. I was in London not that long ago to do a one-off live book cheat. And then after the show, fantastic support of the show. Milton Keynes is our own Ben Johnson. Came up to me and said, would you fill out my next fact-quiter question for me? And Henry is phone.

And it was like an entry. And he did write that. Yes, but it was an Android or a Samsung. I couldn't work out the keyboard. It was really stressful. So a panicked. And I could thought of the only thing that I know 100% to be true in that is I am definitely

not a virgin. Oh, god. but just the passionate passionate defense Damn it So sus So that is that is a brag from me, but also a fact from from me I honestly did submit via Ben Johnson okay But what's the the best host part of that?

Yeah, that's interesting isn't it? Maybe Ben wrote that bit. Oh, okay. Yeah, throw Ben under the bus. Ben did not write that bit. I know I know Or I'll that brings us to the next part of this section to show where we thank a few of our other great supporters Jesse normally come up with a bit of a game based on the topic that we just talked about well I think I mean, there's so many amazing parts in this story. Obviously, our favorite part being the Steely Eye Missile Man. John Aaron, what a guy.

No, no, no, I mean, I don't ever need to remember his real name. He's a Steely Eye Missile Man. What if we gave everybody a four-part nickname? Steely, I'd missile, man. Thank you for checking that out. I'm sure you would normally say it's too cumbersome for a nickname.

Yeah, it is. Nignan should be short, but this is really more of a, less of a nickname, more of an honorary title. Still that, Mr. Matt, but like, if you use shorten it, it becomes sim. That's cool. Hey, sim. Steely eyed.

Miss Little Man. It's like sim. Yeah, I'd say sim. So I don't know how you're getting seam from that. But seam, steely, eyed. How do you spell eyed, Dave? How do you spell eyed, Dave? You didn't write the report.

You didn't say to written down. How's it written, Dave? I, a post-reviewed. Oh, that's a good one. Steely, I would missle man. That's what it's shortfall. Ha ha. Ha ha.

Jim, Jim, might have I kicked us off here? Please. I'd love to firstly thank from Upper Chick Chester, which I would have put a million dollars on being in England. Now it's in Pennsylvania in the United States. I'd love to thank Nina and Brian Burkhart. Oh, some good names. Fantastic, man.

Nina and Brian Burkhart, they're already a four-part, they've nailed it. So we can leave the end in there. Yeah. That means we've got one word each, alright. Rocket. End. No, you've got to do it. Rocket and watch.

Gang. Rocket and watch gang. Oh, I like that. Yeah, Rocket and watch gang from rocket and watch gang Oh I like that Yeah rocket and watch I love I love two people being a gang as well Yeah I love that You know is that the bare minimum? Yeah I think that's the very bare minimum The rocket and watch gang

Are we a gang? Yeah From upper just a cup where the upper just a rock and watch gang Yeah I'd also love to think from palm harbor Palm harbor and you know it says it's Tim Fisher Tim Fisher the The ex uh deputy prime minister Tim Fisher or under the ex deputy prime minister X deputy prime minister. Woohoo! He's like, yes, that is my nickname.

That's my title. Yeah, that's what we're doing real titles. I prefer former deputy prime minister rather than X, but okay. It's sort of like Olympians like, I'm not an ex Olympian. I'm still an Olympian, okay. Yeah, that's true, yeah. All right, you've got the little tattoo on your arm to prove it, but we get I guess that's true, yeah. Right, you've got the little tattoo on your arm to prove it together.

Oh, we did it. Beijing, baby, whatever. Really? So you went to Atlanta. Cool. Awesome, you came ninth. Top nine, pretty good. I'm in the world.

I'm not sure that is that. That is quite impressive, but like, lose the chewed, you know what I mean? Okay. And finally from out, I'd love thank from a liver peel in Great Britain Ellie bacon Ellie great name Ellie bacon. I'm a two ahead. Let's go get into your liver plexus in a day How do you do that? Yeah, well, I normally think of someone impersonating Paul McCartney. I'm thinking of bacon I'm thinking of the buffet breakfast, bandit.

Ooh! Blinker Blanca, here we go on the... I'm the... Having a little twinkle on the key, sir. Can I say buffet breakfast bandit? She's the buffet breakfast bandit. That's good. That's good.

I like it. That's great. Buffet breakfast bandit's fantastic. Best kind of buffet, Eric. Oh, am I a breakfast? Or I lie. Noett breakfast band, it's fantastic. Best kind of buffet, I reckon. Oh, no, I'm not going to. Breakfast? Or I lie. No, it's much better than a dinner.

Or again. It sort of depends. As some, who doesn't eat eggs or bacon? Okay. Breakfast options are a little limited sometimes. I guess yes. What I like about the breakfast buffet. Is the bacon and the eggs?

No, it's the fact that you know what you're going to get. There's only so many things that are considered breakfast foods sort of buffet, but at dinner one, it could be any, it's open to every quiz. That's true, yeah, yeah. You get in there, you're like, oh, I don't really feel like Italian and Thai tonight. You know, there's too many options, but with breakfast, you know what you're going to get. Unfortunately for you, you know, you're not going to like it. No, but you know, sometimes there's like lots of nice fresh fruit or a pancake station. Or a brown.

Flickle of a hash brown. You get sometimes you get a nice range of cereals. Yeah, that's fun. Oh yeah. Juices usually at Apple Orange maybe pie and Apple. That's nice. And there's great fruit and I get tricked every time. Oh, this looks sweet. Oh, oh, oh. Whenever I mean I'm just thinking about the one that we stayed at for the Thai podcast. That's absolutely what I was thinking. Yes. Yeah. That made me back. A tiny banana.

Do you remember that tiny, all of the banana? I was the one that I never seen. But my thing there was I would get bread, toast it, then I'd butter it with blue cheese. That's the spread. Oh my god. I'd have it with blue cheese. And then baked beans on top. I've never heard something so extravagant before.

Oh, frickin' hell. It's all included. Buttered with blue cheese. You're losing money not to get it. Yeah, you're right. Hey, Jess, would you like to thank a few people? I would love to thank some people. I would love to thank from Atlanta, Jordan.

96. The toilet. Toilet. I would love to thank Alex. Oh, Alex from Atlanta, that's already good. Mm-hmm. All right, so Atlanta, I'm thinking of like the Falcons in the NFL. Okay.

Or the Hawks in the, so there's a bird. NBA is a big bird. So what about something big bird? Like an airplane. Like an airplane bird. Okay. That's good. That's good.

Oh, lab. For sure, I'm giving that one right. Okay. That's good. Woo-hoo-hoo- Steely eyed Miss Woman, like an airplane bird. Alex from Atlanta, like an airplane bird. Yeah. OK, that was an enough nail, you got a jingle. Yeah, it's a good one. What more do you want from us? Sometimes we go, we've got to give you a little bit more.

We sure change, we'll give you a little election. That sucks, I'm sorry about that. I love it, like an airplane bird Alex from Atlanta I would also have to thank from location unknown Deeper than the foarts of the moles Bradley Williams Bradley Williams Bra will Bra bill bra bill bra will bill, bra will support you.

bra will support you. bra will support you. bra will, bra will support you. Anything. That's nice. That's, isn't it? It's nice.

Support is kind of person. bra will support you. Yeah. lack in everything. I will support you. That works. I think we've lost a little bit. I think breakfast buffet banded. I think we'll do you. That works. I think we've lost a little bit.

You've come to the breakfast buffet band-in. I think we'll do better on the next one. Bra will support you. No, I will support you. And then like in the cartoon, Bra has got their hand out for a big shake. Bra, Bra will support you. Just like that. Bra. So finally for me, I'd love to thank from Long Beach, California. Dennis.

Ah, the Sexy Sandy Surface Son of a Bitch. That's one word that last bit. That's the one word. The Sexy Sandy Surface Son of a Bitch. It's four words. Not a shut-over doubt. There's a little ration in there. Sssss.

Ooh! And it feels fitting to the location also, you know? Yeah. You got a four. Did you made that? It's not long, baby. And Dennis, Dennis is actually spent with four S's. Like, what does that stand for?

What's Dennis? Dennis, where's that come from? That's the meatcher. Of course. Bruh, we'll support you. Oh! Dennis. That's the mecha. Of course. Bra will support ya. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Dennis. That's good stuff. That's like maybe it's time for you to jump in and think. I think, hey, I like to take you all the way from Long Beach to Oklahoma City. Oh. Oh, Oklahoma. OK.

See, in Oklahoma, it is Adriana Gray. Adriana Gray. Now, Oklahoma City, is that, am I right on the thing that's the Pelicans? No, that's Nola. That's Nola. What, are the Thunder, of course? Yes.

Josh Gidey's team. That's right. Russell Westbrook used to play there. I knew it was one of the slightly irrelevant teams. LAUGHTER OK, see, OK, you know, they called, okay, see, the team. Okay, so Gidey, I think, is already great. Grey, we've got, so Gidey Grey, the Gidey Grey goose, it can finish it.

What's someone to kick us off there? Oh, the, I guess, the Gidey Grey goose. Fuck yeah. Oh, the Gidey Grey goose. The Gidey Grey goose. Gidey Grey geese. Is that slightly easy to say? I guess the giddy gray goose oh the giddy gray goose the giddy gray goose giddy gray geese that's Giddy gray geese and that's Adriana Gray that's good one goose isn't enough. Yeah, yeah flock of geese That's Adriana Gray again. It's a gang. Yeah

What's the collective now for gaggle? What's gaggle for? Yeah, it's? It's not. It's not. Gaggle something. Yeah, it's another bird, but I don't think it's g- oh, fuck, maybe it's geese. Gaggle, it's gaggle. Gaggle. Apologies for I was so sure it wasn't, and I was like, you guys eat it.

Hey, look it up. Don't worry, people haven't yelled too much. Hey, age around a gray. Love you work. And I'd also like to thank from greatest of Britons in N field, N field, it's Alfie Hanks. At O'Malfoy Ang. Alfie Ang.

Hey, no, you're all male Foy Ang. How do you do? Oh, you do love all male Foy Ang. To Alfie Ang. To the Tom Hanks. No, to Colin Hanks. To Colin Hanks. I don't think so, no. Two. The Grandmanks. No, two Colin Hanks. Two Colin Hanks. Uh, I don't think so, no.

Okay, L.F. Or Malfoyanks. Or L.F. I'm L.F. Or I love. Alright, nicknames. Toilet. Nicknickname.

Alright, I'm L.F. That's good. You got L.F. Yanks in his nickname. Yeah, or a no. Or a Malfoyang. Just just going down a great path here with Toilet. Yeah, because you guys always call people toilets in that accent. It's fun to yell or youth.

Shut your lid, you toilet. The lid. The lid. Shut and toilet. The lid. Shut and toilet. What about the great lid shudder? The great lid shudder. I'll see a toilet. I'll shut that lid. Yeah. I'll shut it down. Oh, right, boys, you gotta put the lid down. Oh, it's hygienic. It's also about respecting other people in the house. That's right, yeah, you either keep it down or I put you down.

I'll shove your head in the toilet. If the flush goes and the lid is up, your spraying projectiles of all sorts of yuckyness all over the bathroom. Our toothbrushes are out there. All right, all right, your poo part of course, have ever heard of them. You want a brush you take?

You want a brush you take with poo part of course, I didn't think so. So let's close the lid, flush the toilet. It's a chattily flush the toilet. All right, all right, I'm the great lead shatter. All right, all right. Yeah, what you say? Thank you, Alfie, that's right.

That's right. You welcome, nothing lead well, shatter. Moving on. I'm right. That's right. You welcome nothing lead well shot Moving on. I'm the great lead shot. I'm going door to door knocking knocking on door. Don't be with shot If I need to say you're so sorry, I'm so sorry, I'll be totally shot. Prove it. Show me your toilet Your lead and then while I'm in there a robber That's right. I, man's got eight. I've got multiple used tooth brushes at home, selling them online. Haven't had any tokens yet, but it's a so pro-fist, it's an economy thing.

You get on the greatlimbshow.co.uk. All right. All right. Oh, Malfi Yanks. See, that's Alfie. Thank you so much for your support. Thanks Alfie, sorry. Lee's Alfie. Thank you so much Thanks Alfie. Sorry. We blacked out for a second there. Hope whatever we came up with was good. Did we give them a nickname? I don't know. I'm not sure but what we have to move on and finally from Brisbane back home Australia

It's Leo Mick Monagal. Oh, it's great. Oh Leo Mick Monagal. Oh, that is good. It's fun to say that. McMunnagall. McMunnagall. McMunnagall. We are McMunnagall. L-M-L-C-M.

L-M-C. L-M-C-S-N-A-K. L-M-C-M. L-M-C-M. Because it's McM-M- McM-M-K. Oh my God. So L-M-C-M.

Oh, what would that stand for? What? No. L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L- Oh my god. So LMCM. I want to see him. What that stand for? What's the? No. L... Luda Crisley. Luda Crisley. Mega Clever, man. Oh, Luda Crisley.

Luda Crisley. What was the important? Mega Clever, man. Luda Crisley, Mega Clever, man. That's what they call me. Or LMCM. Yeah, you rang. Uh, sorry, uh, I got they call me. Or LMC. Yeah, you rang.

Sorry, I got a call, LMCM here. Lucrously making it. What did you do in clever man? You need something sorted out, I'm ludicery. Make a clever man. You got a problem or so? What do you need, that? Make a clever man. Call me in.

I'll be right out. What's the problem? He'll be there. Like an airplane bird. Thank you so much, Celia. I'll be Adriana Dennis, Bradley Alex, Ellie Tim, Nina and Brian. I really appreciate your support. Great, so much. You can show bloody happening. I think that those nicknames truly rival the Steele-eyed Missile Man himself. Yeah, I think they could be game changers for each of those.

Yeah, they're going to re-brand. I can see a few personalized number plays being printed up as we speak. Yeah. They'll meet multiple automobile or together across their fleet. No one was from WA. Have you noticed over there they have like full sentences is there? I don't think that's a limit on the characters. That's fun.

I haven't noticed that. There must be a limit but it's more than the six that we get in the tutorial. We've got to be really strategic here. I'm over there like this week. I'll check it out. Check it out, have a look. All right, well the next thing we'd like to do is welcome a few people into the tripditch club. It's the last thing we do in this section of the show. These people have been supporting the show for three straight years. Can you believe that Dave? Three straight years, that is an incredible effort. And because of that, we induct them into a special club. Yeah. It's like a bit of theater to the mind, as Matt says. It's a clubhouse, it's a bar, it's a tree house if you want it to be. Treehouse Chris is there. Exactly. Treehouse Chris, built it. Three stories, he built it on meth. I just think of it as an airport lounge.

Fantastic. Like a nice one. Like a first class. And it's got like really nice showers and like you know, there's little rooms you can go have a sleep. That's help paint the picture out a little bit in my head because I picture more like a Las Vegas lounge, you know, with booths and stuff. But now that I'm sort I'm sort of handing around a bit and saying, oh, there's showers,

actually, oh, there's an airport right there. They're not fine from anywhere. You can come from anywhere. That's handy. Absolutely. But instead of an airport, it's a portal. You just step through it. Oh, an airport. An airport.

Wow. So normally what we do is I'm sending the door. I've got the clipboard. I'm going to read out six names tonight. If you're lucky enough to have your name read out, you step on through that. Air portal. Air portal. Into the club, Dave's on stage. He will hype you up, get the crowd, cheering your name. He'll also do some wheat punnery on your name. I think that's what he does. And then Jess supports him because Dave doesn't believe in himself Thank you so much

And Dave you're also normally book a band for the after party. Yeah, you never gonna believe this. Who you got? I've got King of Seoul himself James Brown Whoa, who also happens to appear on the Apollo 13 soundtrack, but that's just a coincidence. Fuck you're good How do you do it? I don't know, I'm really, really good at booking. I just got a booking. You got an admin. Godfather of Sol, is that what they call him? Sorry, I got a king of Sol.

But James Brown. And amazing. Wow, that's amazing. Honestly, I've put him up for a vote for before. I think he came second, I think Monday. Yeah, he's lived, he did live a, a world. Yeah, a wildlife incredible. I've hoped to report on him one day.

But before then, we're gonna get him on stage and he's gonna rock this club. Yes, you're normally behind the bar. You normally make a cocktail in the name of the Topic what what's the Apollo 13 cocktail the Apollo 13? Obviously I remember the the report we just heard yeah Well, it's probably involved. It's got rock of fuel. It has oxygen. Oh, yeah, not much. Yeah, there wasn't much around No much oxygen just a little bit just enough You've just set up a small oxygen bar, but instead of like plugging in it's one quick shot Yeah, you can have a shot of oxygen and then keep partying. Yeah, and there's also snacks

That's fantastic. All right. Are you ready Dave to work him in some? I mean they had limited snacks. That's fantastic. All right, are you ready Dave to welcome in some? I mean they had limited snacks, that's probably good. I know but I love how shit I've got this and that every time just goes wow. And then just moves on. I didn't hear what you said. That's amazing. Anyway, so if you're tired, it's so sweet. All right, so Dave, you ready?

Here we go, let's see you ready. That's welcome these people. They've been waiting three years. What was it like waiting three years. It's a line for three years, I presume. What was I doing last week on an episode? I think I was just yelling at them. You also putting your hand on my butt at some stage

to give me support. No, but I was yelling something like, anyway, it doesn't matter. Oh, yes, what was that? What was that? See if it comes to, as we welcome in from Henderson in Nevada in the United States. It's Kelly Parish.

Going to the parish and we're gonna get Kelly from old him. We did not rehearse that. That's pretty good. Honestly, that was pretty good. You just you knew us, Kelly. Thank you so much. From old him in England, it's Paul Mellor. Paul Mellor.

Better call Paul. Mellor Paul Mellor better call Paul Yes, because he's the part of who great science supporter over there in oldham town. That's awesome Dave can you ever look at this next city? What's that say? Volsio Sweden Volsio from Volsio and Sweden. It's Kaya Warfinch and I said Kaya.

Oh my god, yes. Kaya. I had no idea how you're going to pronounce that one, so I really had to wait till the end of the session, but it was great. Hopefully we had a good crack there. Yeah, sorry. Someone mentioned in the Facebook group. The way Roonday did, by saying.

Well, they're like, as they've just said, it's always interesting to see how Matt pronounces some European places and names. I'd also love to welcome in from San Bernardino in California and American Newforsk. San Bernardino. San Bernardino. It's Daniel B. Sawyer. More like Daniel B. Also. Yeah.

Let's party. That's Daniel B. Sawyer. More like Daniel B. Awesome! Yeah! Let's party! Can he be any more Sawyer? Fuck yes. From Bedale in Ascue in Great Britain. It's Jamie. For this night was gonna go Ascue until you Jamie walked in! Yes! And finally from Tempe, Arizona in the United States, it's Adrian Hernandez, a Rista

Go going to the tempi and we're Thank you and welcome into the club Adrian Jamie Daniel K. Paul Kelly Amanda and No Amanda was last week Amanda still here. I Thanks for remaining in the club Amanda. I was running But Amanda's still here. Hey, thanks for remaining in the club, Amanda. Just run into Amanda at the bar. How are you?

Oh, Amanda, you look great. Still mulling it over. Amanda Mellons. Still got it. All right, that brings us into that. So anything we need to tell people before we go Jess. That you can suggest a topic at dogoampod.com, or there's a link in the show notes.

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