Do Go On - 367 - Woodstock '99: 'The Day The Music Died'

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

“On paper, it sounded like a great idea: let’s recreate Woodstock to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the peace and love music festival that sat at the epicentre of the hippie movement. Groovy. What followed was four days of carnage." Esquire Magazine. This is the 5th most voted for topic for this year's Block!Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodLive show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Matt's stand up special: https://youtu.be/cWStRpI-BhE Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a40769147/woodstock-99-true-story/https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/woodstock-99-and-the-rise-of-toxic-masculinityhttps://english.elpais.com/culture/2022-08-11/the-unpredictable-hell-of-woodstock-1999-burning-stages-sexual-abuse-and-a-stream-of-feces.html#:~:text=Woodstock%201999%20began%20promising%20three,young%20hooligans%20wallowing%20in%20ahttps://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/19-worst-things-about-woodstock-99-176052/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Oh, that's good? Oh, you think I could speed it up a bit? Oh, sure, but- Hey, everyone. Welcome to the show. Do go on.

Dave here. I mean, some people listen to it on, like, you know, one and a half speed anyway. That's probably what it sounds like. We should really mess with those people one week and just do an episode where we speak really, really, really fast. No, I'm going to do one where I just take really long breaks. I'll edit that out. To those people, they'll hear really long breaks.

Are they listening to one and a half pitches higher? Yeah, they're putting it up. Anyway, hello, Dave. Hello, Matt. Happy block once again. Happy block. Best time of the year. It's the pointy end now.

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But for those that don't know what Block is Matt What are we talking about? Well we're actually now into Blowvember This is the first week of Blowvember So Block, Toba and Blowvember I shouldn't have asked him to explain Yes It's the time of year

It's a festival of ideas in a lot of ways, dangerous ideas. Yes, that's right. And also interesting ideas. And it's the most requested slash most voted for topics of the year. So I take all the most requested topics in the hat and then I also get extra suggestions from the Patreons, put them into a massive poll. That goes out publicly.

Thousands of people voted and now we're counting down the nine most popular topics. Top nine. Nothing like it. Yeah. And we're up to number five. So, halfway through this episode, we are officially halfway through block. Just like that. It's always over so quickly.

It's a bittersweet, isn't it? Symphony. That's life. That's life. Dave, how does the show work very quickly before we start? So what we do here is we take it in turns to report on a topic often suggested by one of the listeners, the person who's been assigned that week's topic goes away,

does a bit of research, brings it back to the group in the form of a report. And, Matt, it's your turn to report this week with our fifth most requested topic. It took him 15 seconds to do that. Thanks for timing everything I do. I just happen to be sitting in front of the clock. I'm bored.

Jess is watching the clock count down. She can't wait for this to be over. God damn. But it's got to start first. And to start, Matt, we usually start with a question. That's right. So I'm asking the question this week as it is my topic. And the question is this.

What ill-fated cultural event was the focus of Jamie Crawford's three-part documentary series, Trainwreck? Is it a trainwreck? Oh, good one. Is it not a very clever title? Is it about an actual trainwreck? Yeah, a cultural event like the opening of Puffing Billy. No.

Where it wrecked. The 1988 disaster. No, it's a musical event. Okay. Oh, okay. Was it the opening of Wicked? Cop that, Wicked. You're a fucking train wreck.

Sorry, like a music festival. Can I say that? We've already done five festivals. If I'm wrong, correct me here, there were two documentaries at the time. Oh, true. Jess already covered one. There are two documentaries about this one as well. Okay.

Very similarly. One, yeah, the Netflix series, and there was also another one that came out, I think, on HBO. Okay. Or something like that. Oh, okay. I've watched them all. Was this a 30-year reunion or celebration of a previous topic we've done?

Yes. Woodstock. Yes. 99. Yes. We both get a point. That is exactly correct. That we both get a point?

That you both get a point. Thank you. I believe so. Good work. Half a point. Thank you. I believe so. Good work. Half a point each. Yeah, so Woodstock 99, it was the 30-year anniversary festival of Woodstock 69. Nice.

Did I do that as part of a Blocktober one year or was that just a report? Just a report. There you go. It felt epic. Yeah, it was. It was an epic. You know what?

It felt muddy. It was so muddy. And was an epic. You know what? It felt muddy. It was so muddy. And gross. Is there mud this time, Matt? No. It's quite the opposite. I'll admit that I haven't seen- Blisteringly hot and dusty.

Perfect. I haven't seen any of the docos. Have you, Jess? No, I haven't actually. Oh, that's probably good. Okay, great. Because then- You can't correct me on anything.

And we don't know what's coming. So, it's more fun for us. Yeah, I would say uh i preferred you would stock i would yeah i'd prefer i'd suggest the the crawfords documentary series train wreck that was my favorite of favored one of the two um but yeah you know they both got great footage of the events and yeah cool um behind the scenes footage and all this sort of stuff cam quarters they used to call them yes course. This topic was suggested by a few people. Josh Benefield from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Chris Broderick from Clayton here in Victoria. Holly G from SL in UT. I don't know what either of the- Salt Lake? Salt Lake City, Utah. Give me two. Oh, my God. Meatball.

But I just noticed it spells out a word, S-L-U-T. Dave Hammond from Reading in Berkshire in England. Letting you do a bit of homework for yourself at home there. Soraya Minchin from Canberra. Jess from Leichhardt. Cheryl Dean from Huntington. Cheryl Dean. Cheryl Dean from Huntington in the UK.

And Richard from Sydney. I don't know why I said Cheryl Dean. Cheryl Dean. Cheryl Dean. That's probably because of Laddie Dean. Yeah, but there's something... I can't even think of the melody I was going for then.

It sounds like the Scottish version of Jolene. Cheryl Dean. Cheryl Dean. Back by solo. Please don't take my man. Arrgh. Don't take my wee lad. I've got fiery red hair.

So, yeah, if you haven't seen the documentaries, you might not know that this story includes some pretty grim stuff, including stuff of a sexual assault nature, so a bit of a heads up there. I don't go into it all that much. There's a little content warning. It does get mentioned at some point. But, yeah, obviously I don't think this is the place to go into big details,

but there's heaps of articles and the documentary series to talk about a little bit more. Anyway, here is my report on Woodstock 99. And when did this occur? The year was 1998. Sorry, 1999. This is from a feature about the festival from Esquire magazine written earlier this year.

So because of these documentary series, a lot of attention has come back to it, even though it's oddly 23 years after the event. You'd think you'd save it for the 25th anniversary of yeah or something so anyway this is from esquire on paper it sounded like a great idea let's recreate woodstock to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the peace and love music festival that sat at the epicenter of the hippie movement groovy what followed was four days of carnage the event was marred by deaths rapes

assaults violence and arson and will go down in history as one of the worst music events ever to take place holy shit it all but set fire to the legacy of the original gathering in 69 writing for el pais miguel achari wrote woodstock 1999 began promising three days of peace, love and music. It ended with stages in flames, sound towers reduced to smithereens, tents raised to the ground, the press and performers running like hell, promoters barricaded in their offices and thousands of hungover and exhausted young hooligans wallowing in a stream of feces. The San Francisco Examiner aptly called the event the day that music died. Oh, wow. I do feel like the tents being raised is pretty lucky

to get a mention there. They set stages on fire. Buildings were destroyed. Small tents were upended. Okay. Tents were packed down, squished away, not very neatly in their bags. That would be a nightmare to unpack at a later date. Pegs were lost.

Will we ever recover? Writing for Newsweek, Molly Mitchell wrote, more than 400,000 people attended the highly anticipated festival held at the former Griffiths Air Base in Rome, New York. Wow, that's a lot of people. Yeah, I don't think they were all there at the former griffiths airbase in rome new york wow that's a lot of people yeah they weren't all i don't think they're all there at the same time i think 250 000 sort of at the peak still that's a lot of people yeah a lot of tent pegs however at woodstock 99 elements of poor management budget cuts high temperatures misogyny inadequate security the music a

disgruntled crowd forced to pay high prices and the lack of sanitation were disastrous eventually spilling over into violence sexual assault riots and even death so yeah fair warning there's it's a it's a mess right okay i could probably leave it there but if you want i can go into more details um look i think as much as it would be fun to do our shortest ever episode at just coming in under 10 minutes obviously we'll do 40 minutes of patreon um but uh i i think i think blowvember is not the time for that i think you should go into it yeah i've actually got the rest of the afternoon off so okay i've got time i'm busy later so, get a move on. But I have somewhere to be.

I mean, we're at my house, but I have somewhere I need to be. But we don't want to stay. We'll lock up. As we learned in episode 253, the original Woodstock was also a bit of a mess, but in a very different way. Now, I was remembering Jess telling that story, but was it you, Dave? It was Dave. That wasn't my report.

I thought it was a Matt. So, sorry, Dave. Obviously not your best. Not memorable. It's really stayed with me, that one. That was in my report, yeah. I thought it was a Matt. So, sorry, Dave. Obviously not your best. Not memorable. It's really stayed with me, that one. I'm surprised you don't remember. It's funny because I remember it. I just thought, I just remember Jess telling the story.

And I almost messaged Jess to say, I shouldn't be doing this. This is a follow-up to your episode. No. I remember you being blown away that if given the opportunity, I still wouldn't attend Woodstock. Yeah. You were like, oh, it's so good. I was like, nah, it's messy.

Muddy. Yeah, I don't like it. Too stressful. We arrive in a time machine, we can zoom in, zoom out. Oh, yeah, if we could zoom in, zoom out. Maybe. Okay. Nah, I still wouldn't.

That was Splendour in the Grass this year for me, which was knee-high mud. Right. And I was like, I'm out of this. Went and stayed at a nice comfy hotel. Fantastic. So talking about the 69 iteration, Achari writes, it was an organisational disaster but an indisputable cultural success. The original Woodstock featured Peace and Love, Janis Joplin,

Jimi Hendrix, The Who, Grateful Dead, Santana, and Hippies mobilizing against the Vietnam War. Michael Lang promoted all of that in a display of quixotic countercultural entrepreneurship. But he took heavy losses and only recovered his investment over 10 years later through sales of the film's soundtrack and merchandise. So Michael Lang, one of the OGs, he's with Woodstock all the way through to 99 and beyond. So talk a bit about him. Right. Michael. Still involved.

Yes. Michael. I think there was three of them. Oh, Michael. No, Michael. Do you remember the other two guys? There was three, but I think he's the only one who stayed with them. Right.

Ten years later, in 1979, there were anniversary concerts held at Madison Square Garden in New York City, which I didn't realize that. Then in 1989, there was a spontaneous 20-year anniversary concert organized by folk guitarist Rich Pell on the original 69 site. Apparently, he just rocked up and said to the farm owners, hey, it's the 20-year anniversary. Do you mind if I do a little concert here? Do you mind if I do a set? And they're've but you haven't told anybody that you're gonna do this yeah hey they'll come and were you at the original one oh no no no no i see just a guy with a guitar

in my my field yep yeah so can i sure i didn't look into it too much because i'm like oh this might be a fun one to talk about by itself someday because I'd never even heard about it. But apparently that's vaguely the idea that came across from what I read, that it was just like it was nothing. It's just him and a guitar. There wasn't a stage. There wasn't a PA.

But momentum grew. Volunteers and local bands pitched in, lent their equipment, and eventually it grew to the point That an estimated 150,000 people attended What the hell? Based only on word of mouth No advertising I think you're going to say 150 And that would have been an impressive achievement

That would have been amazing, yeah With a guy and a guitar Who just starts playing in a field Like Jimi Hendrix's dad played What? Yes Jimi Hendrix Senior? No, Papa Hendrix

Papa Hendrix They welcomed him to the stage Yeah He came out and said You kids are making too much noise I'm old now Yes. Jimi Hendrix Senior. No, Papa Hendrix. Papa Hendrix. They welcomed him to the stage. Yeah. He came out and said, you kids are making too much noise. I'm old now. And I wonder maybe if Lang saw the success of that from no, you know, no pre-organisation at all and went, oh,

maybe we should do an anniversary event because that's what he did. You'd be expecting like 200 million people to rock up then. If you can get 150,000 with no PA, nothing, no poster. Yeah, you plan it a little bit. We plan it. We could probably get 1,000 times that. Probably get how many people there are there? A billion? Can I get a billion people?

Can we get them all in? How big is your farm? You've been there before, Michael. Why are you asking me this? Well, I was, to be honest, 69, a bit blurry. I'm hoping you've acquired more land since then. So he set about organising a 25th anniversary event, Woodstock 94. According to Esquire, five years prior to 99, which is when 94 was,

there had been a Woodstock 94 festival that also ended in catastrophe. Oh, God. Storms meant that the site was turned into a huge mud bath and more than double the attendees expected turned up. They sold 164,000 tickets but a crowd of 350,000 showed up. That is so many people. Including gate crashes. The site they had was hard to secure so people just cutting gates and

fences and just charging in like more than double like it's so many people oh my god so many so the extra numbers meant the crowd couldn't be safely monitored and two people died elsewhere at the event the lead singer i love this little bit of info from Esquire. Just say it. I'll give it to you with no context, and this is all I'll say about it, because that's what the article did. Great. Elsewhere at the event, the lead singer of the band Jackal burned a stool on stage, attacked it with a chainsaw,

and fired a gun during their performance. That's art. They chainsawed a stool? It was on fire, Dave. These people are insane. No, you don't get it. It's art and it's actually very cool and interesting. Fired a gun at the stool.

That's how I pictured it. What did this stool do? Very angry at this stool. This stool was a real jerk. As Ascari writes, Lang and his new partner, John Shear, lost money hand over fist. So in 1999, they conspired to capitalize on the Woodstock brand once and for all with a professionally conceived and executed event,

minus the naive idealism that had turned previous iterations into ruinous business. So the very core of what they were trying to do originally, they're like, let's turn on that. Yeah. Let's really plan this. Yeah, this is all about cash, no-gate crashes. So, Rick, they're chasing their losses though, aren't they?

First one, lost money. All right. 89, we didn't charge tickets. Shit, probably lost money. 94, lost money. 99, this is our time. Yes. Tickets are going to be $4,000 each.

And we need that full billion to turn up. And remember that this is their mindset going in when later on the organisers, Cher and Michael. Lang. When they later on are being like, geez, this generation doesn't have the same spirit of, you know, they talk about it. Yeah, great.

You said about making a festival very differently. Yeah. And you're thinking, oh, it's weird that it went differently. People have experienced it differently and expected different things and you're blaming them. Okay. Yeah, it's weird that you called it Capitalism Presents Woodstock. A little bit different this time.

So, they had to pick a venue to combat the issues they faced in the past with gate crashes. Organizers Lang Shue and Ossie Kilkenny- They picked a jail. Can't get in, can't get out. Honestly, it's not that far off. Really? It's not a jail. It's an Air Force base.

Okay, great. Perfect. It's a very secure location. Yep, so that's good. So, Griffiths Air Force Base in Okay, great. Perfect. It's a very secure location. Yep, so that's good. So Griffiths Air Force Base in Rome, upstate New York. While it may have been more secure, it was a long way from the green hills of the original Woodstock Farm. You know, it's just the vibe is very different. According to Esquire, the mainly concrete and asphalt space was the worst location for a music festival,

especially when the two main stages were about a two-mile walk from each other. Two miles? Two miles. That's like over 3Ks, right? That is, I mean, are they doing- It's a 40-minute walk. Are they doing like, I don't know, Air Force lifts,

like helicopter rides from one side to the other or something? No, just long walks on the asphalt. At least golf buggies or something. Get golf buggies. That's so far. Oh, get everybody a scooter. Oh, yeah, that's clever. But like one of those electric ones.

Yeah, with flowers on it. Yes. But charge everyone. Charge them so much for it. That's too far apart. That's far too far apart. Just every decision feels like a bad decision. Yeah, that's stupid.

The weekend of July 22nd to 25th was set to welcome a heat wave too. So, obviously, the bitumen or the asphalt. What did you call me? But you don't have to worry about mud. No, that's right. Yeah, true, true, true. Just dust. So, they were expecting temperatures over 100 degrees Fahrenheit,

around 40 degrees Celsius. That's very hot on an outdoor, like, concreted surface. Without much shade. The only shade was there were hangers, you know, old aeroplane hangers. Yeah. But- They were all out of bounds. They used one of them for the rave tent.

So-called rave tent was in one of the hangars and the emerging talent tent was in one as well, but the main stages were just out in the open. The place where the majority of people were. Yes. Amazingly, at the time, there's footage in the Netflix series of Lang being asked about how he thinks it's all going and he says, well, the weather's really going in our favour.

What? Because I think he's just thinking it's not muddy this time. Right, he's happy. But he's also like hanging out inside and in the VIP backstage areas and all that sort of stuff, seemingly never being fully aware of how bad things were getting and how bad it is. Just imagine having to walk back and forth two miles in that kind of heat. And, you know, it's a big drinking festival as well.

Budweiser sponsors it. There's a big Budweiser beer, like unsheltered beer garden. Perfect. Very nice. Refreshing. Yeah. People are thirsty. Luckily they confiscated everyone's water on the way in. Good, good, good, good, good, refreshing. Yeah. People are thirsty. Luckily, they confiscated everyone's water on the way in.

Good, good, good, good, good, good. Because you don't know what could be in there. Yeah. Water and all other drinks. Yeah. Even if they were sealed. So, yeah, if you want to bring in water, nice try. Nice try.

Yeah, we're on to you, buddy. Sunscreen, you could probably drink that. Take that. Because anything that they brought in, they wouldn't have to buy. Exactly. And peace and love is all about moving units. That sweet, sweet cash. So over 400,000 people, like I said, bought tickets.

There were very few trees or areas of shade, and campers were forced to put up tents on the tarmac in some cases. There was serious fencing around the whole site not only stopping people from breaking in but later on from escaping the organizers hadn't made enough facilities available for their guests and the toilets and showers were soon overflowing in the heat overflowing toilets yeah it's hellish i think it sounds really fun so far. Of the three days, the first one isn't the worst because, you know, the extent of how their facilities weren't up to scratch wasn't fully known. Each day it got a little worse.

According to Daniel Kreps writing for Rolling Stone magazine, if the heat was absorbed by greenery like most festivals the temperature wouldn't have been as much of an issue but much of the Griffith Air Force base was tarmac and concrete materials the sun rays just bounce off I love a bit of Rolling Stone is where I go to for a bit of science like that yeah the Baltimore Sun reported that halfway through the weekend more than 700 had been treated for heat exhaustion and dehydration. Deactivated hangers provided some of the only shade, and this is one of the reasons why the emerging artist stage was packed out. Because people were just, like, desperate for shade.

They were sometimes foregoing seeing, like, big name acts just to get some shade. Far out. So the young band's like, this is amazing. This is the best. We're playing. They care about us creps's articles written like a listicle and one of them is like just going and this emerging artist stage

nearly none of them emerged like have you heard of any of these acts it's like how you can't blame woodstock for not yeah guessing which bands and plus i think, you know, there were a lot of maybe 30 acts on the emerging scene. And he's like, you know, apart from Muse and Moby and Ben Lee, I'm like three. Oh, they're three big ones. Three pretty big names. Yeah. That's not a bad ratio. It's hard to pick winners in the music biz, I would have thought.

You are for Rolling Stone. Other than for Muse. Okay. They're pretty big.. Other than for Muse. Okay. They're pretty big. Yeah. Stadium arenas. Yeah. And Moby was massive like straight after this in the early 2000s.

Massive. Ben Lee? Come on. Come on. Come on. We love Ben Lee. Kreps continues. Anyone looking for an escape from the relentless heat?

We're out of luck. So, Jess, you're talking about you'd go stay at a local hotel maybe? Yeah. Well, virtually every hotel in upstate New York was booked months before the event, but not by festival goers. Unfortunately, the event clashed with the Baseball Hall of Fame ceremony the same weekend in a nearby town, Cooperstown. So, apparently, even Alanis Morissette, Howard Stern and George Clinton

were turned away from local hotels because they were just already booked solid. Wow, isn't that ironic? Don't you think? Dave. I don't think it is, but. Dave, that was very good. Thank you. You showed your appreciation by not laughing.

Because it wasn't good at all. Yeah. It was as ironic as anything else she mentions in the song. Thank you. None of them are irony, are they? No. 10,000 smoothies when all you need is a knife. That's funny.

That's unlucky. If you're opening drawer after drawer and they're full of spoons, that's funny. Is that not irony? I don't think so. I don't know what irony is. Irony is tricky to pin down, isn't it? It's the opposite of what you want.

I don't think a knife is the opposite of a spoon. Don't at us. I'll delete that out so we don't get the explanation. I'll delete that out. I'll delete that out. With a spoon. Isn't that ironic? Don't you think?

Dave will be able to explain irony for us dave just didn't pretty succinctly what is irony you've already decided to delete it so it's all good all right but that was until i miss said it as uh eat you out so with the spoon then jess said with the spoon i'm like maybe i'll keep it in the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect. Here's an example. Don't go overboard with the gratitude, he rejoined with heavy irony.

I'll edit that out. That didn't help at all. While the venue was picked to avoid gate crashes, unfortunately that didn't stop thousands of people getting into the festival on fake passes. According to the Syracuse Post Standard, security guards were said to be confiscating fake passes at the rate of 50 an hour at just one of the gates. Oof. I guess they're assuming also that if 50 are getting picked,

they're not finding them all, so a bunch are also getting in. Wow. And because of that, it's hard to know how many people actually made it into the festival. So the 400,000 is tickets sold, I think. So they didn't have one of those little clickers that they have at nightclubs? Can't you win?

Yeah. Got 399,996 in. I can let four more people in unless someone leaves, and then I'll wind it back. One in, one out. Okay. Making it all the more difficult, security was understaffed. Like everything else, they were tight on everything.

Some of the people interviewed in the doco, they're like, oh, there was a meeting when I realized, uh-oh, this is more about the money than anything else. There's bad signs early. They all saw their red flags at different stages that sucks they're like oh this one so this festival not about the music or the fan experience at all this is about peace and love and great music and no money okay yeah money money money but honestly this generation they just don't these kids are the 90s you know

what i mean yeah they just don't want peace love love, and they're out there and they're like, oh, I want drinking water. Oh, I want shelter. It's like, come on, we've got Ben Lee. He's emerging. So, yeah, security understaffed. According to Kreps, even though the crowd wildly outnumbered the law enforcement presence, roughly 500 New York state troopers plus local PD, the authorities were supposed to have more support courtesy of a volunteer security team recruited from New York City.

So they didn't want to call them security. So Lang has said like, we gave him shirts that said peace patrol that's good that's good okay recruited them just randomly from new york apparently just went up to people without training or anything and we're going hey we need to recruit people for security if you come with us 500 bucks for the weekend you come and yeah you put on a shirt pretty good okay i've got to point out that um to this guy that that's not how volunteering works. You don't tell people you've got to come and they don't get paid. So, in no way are these people volunteers.

These are employees. Just on that, when I was in Hawaii on holiday recently, there were security guards like sort of around town but mostly on the beach and their shirt said Aloha Ambassador. Oh. I was like, that's security. But I love it. To me, that's more secutory.

Yes. Like a secutory board? Well, I was trying to put cute in there. Yeah, like a secutory board. Is that what that means? Yeah. You're still smiling when they're tasing you with that shirt on? Aloha.

They're throwing sharkers with the other hand. Yeah. It's a beautiful place. They're punching you with sharker hands. Yeah. Pow. Well, it's good. You don't want to have your thumb inside a fist because you'll break it.

So you want your thumb. Why not put your pinky out? Yeah. Pow. Pow. Can I try that? Yeah. Can I try that? Yeah. Can I try it on your face?

If you're talking to Dave, then yeah. I'm looking at you, Matt. Yeah, but if you're talking to Dave, then yeah. Yeah, but I'm looking and talking to you. Oh, then no. Okay, fair enough. Dave, same question. Okay.

Yes. Shaka. When you least expect it, I'm going to shaka punch you in the face. Shaka punch. That's good stuff. that's good stuff that's good stuff uh so a lot of these uh peace patrol people just ended up at some point during the festival like ah fuck this yeah took off the shirts just went and either enjoyed the festival or pissed off great like a lot of them i mean pay them up front of of course. They were underqualified or undertrained and they just, they're like, and they weren't prepared for this.

This was chaos. Yeah. It was anarchy. One of the guys was interviewed on the doco, was like, people were asking, people were coming up to him going, what does that shirt get you? You get backstage and stuff? He's like, yeah.

And one guy goes, I'll give you 400 bucks for it. And he goes, done. I took it off, gave it to him and I went to his bag, yeah. And one guy goes, I'll give you 400 bucks for it. And he goes, done. I took it off, gave it to him, and I went to his bag, got his spare one and put it on. And I didn't get him in Backstage Rant. It was a T-shirt. Wow. What does that shirt get you?

People could say that about any T-shirt. Yeah. It gets me Backstage. It also gets me a million dollars if I want it. If you're buried in the backyard or grown or beanstalk. I'll give you 400 bucks. It's a bargain, actually. Except beanstalk,

at the top of it, it's going to have a little pot of gold. It's going to have $500 in there. Whoa. So you give me $400 for the shirt. In a year's time, you've got $100 extra. That's profit.

You don't have to do nothing for it. You've got nothing. Except pay me. You've just got to tend to a beanstalk. And then I guess you get lots of beans. That's something Jack and the Beanstalk never talked about. He's got this whole beanstalk. There then I guess you get like lots of beans. That's something Jack and the Beanstalk never talked about. He's got this whole beanstalk.

There must be lots of beans he could harvest from it. Yeah, what was the benefit? Because he knew it was a magic beanstalk, didn't he? Because it just grew real big. It was magic beans. And there was multiple too. It wasn't just one. Yeah.

Yeah, he swapped a cow for magic beans or something. But his mum was like, no, I wanted like currency, you dumb shit. Yeah. We need to buy food. And he was like, yeah, but I got beans. Beans are food. Yeah, beans are better. I can grow food.

Mums are so dumb. They never listen, honestly. If you're a mum listening, no, you're the best. You're the best. I thought you were about to tell some home truths, but you cowered it out of it. No, no, no, I chickened out. Mums are also very powerful. They are.

They've got a powerful peak body. Yeah. Yeah, they should have just hired mums for 500 bucks a weekend. Oh, my God. Yes. Mums won't let you get away with shit. That's not a bad call. Yeah, you're not walking up to a mum saying, what's that shirt get you?

You're not buying a mum's shirt off her back. No. You wouldn't do that to a mum. No. Would you? I wouldn't. Good. And that's how we control crowds mums so it doesn't seem like many elements of this festival were well done firstly they didn't hire mums uh including the fact that this festival that came from the peace and love hippie movement had turned into a full-on commercial money-making machine or at least an attempt to.

In an effort to cut costs, the festival organisers farmed out many responsibilities to third parties, including waste management, sewerage and food and drink. I think it's okay to delegate those to people who know about those things. I agree. Like, Lang's not supposed to be digging his own latrine, is he? He doesn't know anything about toilets. That's true.

Get the toilet guy out there. I think that does make a lot of sense as long as, you know, you're in the contract, you're not favouring money but favouring them doing a good job. Ah, yeah, that would make sense. Definitely get some things in the fine print that look after you to make sure they do the job properly and not just do it for the best money option for you. The company who got the food and drink contract hiked up the prices

on everything and there was nothing that the Woodstock team could do about it apparently. So there was nothing in the contract that said, hey, the prices have to be reasonable. You want a veggie burger? No problem. That'll be $400 and that T-shirt. And like I said, security confiscated everyone's food and drink

when they arrived at the festival. So everything had to be purchased on site. And according to a carry, the exorbitant prices at which the commercial tents sold food and drink particularly upset attendees. They charged $4 for a bottle of water, equivalent of $7 today. Apparently, as the weekend went on, water became more in demand and the prices went up into the $12, $14.

Is that US dollars? US dollars in 1999. You can't charge that. For water. Water. Sorry, just so the Americans understand what we're talking about. Just so Paris Hilton can understand charge that. For water. Water. Sorry. Just so the Americans understand what we're talking about. Water. Just so Paris Hilton can understand.

Water. Water. I love water. That's water. That's water. That's cute. Water. And between $8 and $10.

Sorry, sorry, sorry, Matt. I'm so sorry. Our British listeners are baffled. Wawa. Wawa. Obly bobly for the fancies. Obly bobly. Wawa. Wawa. Ublee bublee for the fancies. Ublee bublee. Wawa.

Sorry, Matt. Please do go on. It's only ublee unless it's from the ublee bublee region of France. So, burrito sandwich pizza, they were $8 to $10. A burrito sandwich pizza. Yum. I'm going to get one of those. Yeah, I'm in.

Burrito sandwich pizza. Okay, well, you probably don't of those. Yeah, I'm in. Burrito sandwich pizza. Okay, well, you probably don't mind the price, you know, around $18, $20 today. Bargain. Yeah, that's three meals in one. A burrito sandwich pizza. Wow. For $18. So, I'm picturing like two separate burritos all wrapped up, everything in there.

Then that's made into a sandwich with filling. Oh, yum. And then that's put on top of a pizza and baked. Okay. Yeah, that's going to last you a couple of days. Yeah, $18, great. That's three days worth of food. That's made into a sandwich with filling. Oh, yum. And then that's put on top of a pizza and baked. Okay. Yeah, that's going to last you a couple of days. Yeah, $18. Great, that's three days' worth of food. That's a bargain.

Oh, no, that's, yeah, so $18 for each element of that. Yeah, okay, so it's like a build-your-own-burrito sandwich pizza. That one that you just described would cost you $60, $80. That's a bit of a piss take, actually. Yeah, I'm outraged, actually. I'll just have a sandwich then for much cheaper. I'll just have the pizza. With the lineup, with what you know about this festival,

what kind of bands do you think of? Obviously, Moby, Ben Lee. You said Alanis Morissette. Alanis Morissette. I only know Limp Bizkit. Limp Bizkit's the most famous one from this for sure. 1999, I'm thinking Britney Spears. I'm thinking Korn.

She wasn't there. Korn was there. Okay, so different genre. Well, there's other stuff. Jewel was there. Jewel? My. Jewel. My hands are small, I know, but they're not yours. They are my own.

I never knew she was singing about her hands. What is she singing about? I don't understand the American accent. Whiter. Whiter. Okay, who else? So Jewel's there. Limp Bizkit. Cornatter. Okay, who else? So, Jules there, Limp Bizkit, Korn.

Who's big in 99? I'm thinking Ricky Martin. Ricky's not there. Oh, what? Really? Couldn't get him. But I think what you were thinking with Limp Bizkit, Dave, that's what I saw.

I just thought it was basically a new metal festival. New metal because Limp Bizkit and when I was speaking Korn, maybe Marilyn Manson's there. He's not, but, yeah, that's the kind of- They were huge at the time. Yeah, okay, yep. No Britney. I'm not into it then.

Sorry, Britney. It's Britney, bitch. What does she drink? Water. What does she drink? It's just good to know. I thought it was Pepsi from those ads, but apparently it's water. Water.

Water. Speaking in the train wreck documentary, organisers Schur and Lange admitted they knew nothing about most of the line-up they'd booked. So a lot of people are like, you've booked a pretty aggressive line-up here, and you've got all these things that they're doing that are opposite of Woodstock, and they're going,

why aren't people doing... it's like no one here wants to do the peace and love thing. Yeah, well, let's bounce. They're looking around. They're going, all right, what's Jimi Hendrix doing? Okay, fuck. Jenna Stropland, what's she up to these days? Okay, fuck, really?

Santana's like the only one who's still going. They're working their way through the 27 Club. Okay. Okay, we couldn't get him last time, but is John Lennon available? What about River Phoenix? Apparently they tried to get the Beatles to Woodstock, the original Woodstock I was reading the other day, but I think Lennon might have said only if the Plastic Arno band

can play as well, and they're like, no. None of that side shit. You could have got the Beatles. This is in 1969. It's not like the Beatles were on the emerging stage. That's the height of Beatles. You could have got the Beatles there. I mean, that's from one thing I read.

Give the other band a shitty time slot, whatever. But you could have had the Beatles. They went on to do some good stuff, Plastic Ono Band. Really? Yeah, like a few of John Lennon's solo albums were with them, right? I don't know. Yeah. Sorry, two very different responses there.

One more supportive than the other. I don't fucking know. Why are you asking me? I don't know. So while 1969 had bands like Bob Dylan or acts like Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin and Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, Woodstock 99 had a much heavier lineup, including new metal bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit.

So, we have a hot crowd who is hot and also hot. They're tired. Not their value. Dehydrated and feeling ripped off and feeling sexy. And they're probably hungry too. Yeah, that's when I'm my hottest. Yeah. Hungry, hot and tired.

Yeah. One of the, I think it was Cher was asked, the organiser, not the pop star, was asked. Do you believe in love at Lovewater? He was asked about, you're like, people going, what, people don't have enough money to buy things here. He's like, you don't bring money to a festival? They brought packed lunches.

Oh, my god, that is the 20th century's equivalent of let them eat cake. Yeah. Well, surely they've got money. Yeah. Don't they bring money? No, they brought food for themselves. They can't afford any food and drink. Or why don't they just use money? Have they thought of that?

Fucking hell. Do they have to do everything for everybody? Do they know how to open their wallet? Do I need to do an instructional video? About Velcro? Everyone has a Velcro wallet, don't they? At that stage everyone had a Velcro wallet on a chain Yeah, exactly So they're feeling already pretty angsty from everything so far

And according to Akari, the festival lineup did not help improve the mood Hard rock and new metal bands dominated the delirious program. So we had Korn, we had Limp Bizkit, also Creed, who I think of as, they're like. Matt, when you and I were in Brisbane last month. Oh, yeah, that's right. So the way the day worked, JP, was we did a book cheat with Aaron Goxey Gox, who's a guest with Matt, and then we did Who Knew It with Matt Stewart,

and then we had a break. Then Matt and I did stand-up, and then directly after us was Goxey came back to do karaoke. Great. And we'd agreed. Goxeyoke, I think it was. Goxeyoke. That's fun.

And we'd agreed, oh, we'll do a song as well, so it'll be fun, because it's kind of comedy, kind of karaoke in front of a crowd and stuff. And we hadn't eaten dinner. So, we went upstairs to the burger place. Before this, I went up because we were sitting out in the sort of the green room area hearing the show kick off. And Goxie and Jake, who's emceeing it, they were just like, it just sounded like everything they said was peaking. So, I went up just to quietly go, hey, I think you need to turn Goxie's mic down a little bit. And they asked me to repeat it.

Jake put his mic in my face. I'm like, I was just trying to quietly tell you that the mic is peaking. And then moments later I was doing the Grease Megamix. Do you work with Goxie? I was just trying to quietly. Yeah, I just wanted to let you know that this is, from an audio perspective, sounding terrible. But I think I realised later that's what they were sort of going for.

But there was a pretty, you know, a crowd was gathering. They were pretty into it. And we went upstairs. There was a burger bar upstairs. Quickly had something to eat. And we came back downstairs and there was no one was left in the room. What did Goxie do? Someone who was there said, or maybe Goxie said,

yeah, I did a Creed song and cleared the room. Because, yeah, we left, there's like 30 or 40 people, and then we come back down and there's like seven people. Yeah, Goxie cleared the room with a creed karaoke. Which means they missed out on me doing George Michael's Careless Whisper, but I still got up there. How's that go? I'm never going to dance again.

And I did Boys from the Bush. Great. By Kirks. By Kirks. Great. Anyway, great night. Great night. But creed, hearing that made me laugh.

Kid Rock was also there. Oh, yeah. Additionally, there were bands such as Offspring, great night, great night But Creed, hearing that made me laugh Kid Rock was also there Oh yeah Additionally, there were bands such as Offspring, Metallica and Rage Against the Machine Whose abrasive sound and visceral discourse were totally alien to the first Woodstock spirit of peace and love Right And people do blame some of these bands, especially probably Limp Bizkit And were Limp Bizkit seen as the headliner? I think it was one of those ones they headlined the main stage, I think, on the second night.

It's amazing to think that they're above Metallica and Rage Against the Machine. Hang on. Yeah, when did – no, sorry. But they're the one I associate with the festival, and I'm not sure it's because of stuff you're about to talk about or because they were massive at the time. They were huge, but, you know, Metallica's been big forever. Yeah forever yeah yeah but i guess metallica by that point we're almost you know in a lull bit

of a dip right because you know this is the 90s whereas a oh that were very commercially did well but yeah maybe critically dipped a bit but no you're right limb biscuit uh were followed by raging against the machine and metallica closed out. Okay, that makes sense. On a Saturday night. Yeah. It's kind of a funny lineup on the Saturday on that main stage. Started with Tragically Hip, then Kid Rock,

then Wyclef Jean, Counting Crows, Dave Matthews Band, Alanis Morissette, then Limp Bizkit, Raging Against the Machine and Metallica. It really takes a heavier turn at night. But, yeah, it's interesting that some people will blame the bands. Like, I don't know what you thought Limp Bizkit were going to do. It's sort of their obnoxious new metal band. Please don't hate me.

I thought, well, I expected Limp Bizkit to come in and bring water for everyone and shelter. And shelter. Oh, please, get expected Limp Bizkit to come in and bring water for everyone and shelter. And shelter. Oh, please, get him to our tour bus. So, I kind of feel like some of that stuff's a bit overstated. The line-up was a bit broader than that. Like I say, there were, you know, Counting Crows, Jewel, I've mentioned. Elvis Costello was there.

Willie Nelson. James Brown opened the festival. Okay. James Brown. The Godfather of Soul right there. That's a very varying genres and legends of each. Yeah, it's a more varied lineup than the 69 one was. Yeah.

But I guess pop music by the 90s had diversified a lot. Gone off in different areas, you're right. G Love and the Special Source played, Jamiroquai, Sheryl Crow, George Clinton, the Tragically Hip, and a bunch of others, including even Australian comedy duo, the Umbilical Brothers played one of the main stages. The fuck? That's so good.

Really? Yeah. And was there riots during that or? No. Everyone's like, how's his head come off? Yeah, they're making all funny noises with their mouths. They played on the same stage that later on on the Friday had The Roots, Insane Clown Posse, and George Clinton

and the P-Funk All-Stars. Wild stage. That's crazy. I had no idea. Yeah, I didn't either. I feel like- Do you think they tried to book the Chemical Brothers? Oh, that's it.

They also did book the Chemical Brothers. But the email had already gone off to our Chemical Brothers and they'd said yes. That's embarrassing to pull up. That is embarrassing. Ask them not to come now. So, yeah, so I think a lot of the focus is on, and for good reason,

it was a flashpoint in some of those heavier sets when there was that many people at a poorly planned festival who were already like dehydrated sunstroke drinking all sorts of drugs were right there uh and then quite aggressive music with no d barriers and all these sort of things that have since come in i think because of festivals like this they've probably written new rule books about how to do it because the music is a bit different you know although i you know the Who played at the 69 one. They're a hard rock band as well.

For the day they were. So, but, yeah, I think just, you know, the mainstream culture was a bit more, hey, man. Yeah. It's uncool to show any sort of big emotion, man. Whereas in the 90s, like some of those bands, late 90s was more like, yeah, we get our anger out. Yeah.

Their attitude is, I don't give a fuck. Circle pits. Yeah. Which is fine when it's in a controlled sort of state. I think, you know, when I was starting to go to festivals, which was probably around this time, the focus was increasingly on looking after each other. And I didn't realise it, but it was possibly because of stuff like this.

Yeah, yep. The Insane Clown Posse, I don't know a lot about. I know they're fans of Juggalos. Oh, yeah, they have big festivals and stuff like that. Or is the festival the Juggalo? I have no idea. I think that they are Juggalos, that's right. What does that mean?

Like, I think that's, you know, like a subculture, like fans of the band are called juggalos. Like Taylor Swift fans are Swifties. Gotcha. That was the only one other one I could think of. Is there another one? No. She's the only one with fans.

Spearsies? Is that what Britney's fans are? Yep. Yep. Stans? Who are they? Eminem's fans. Eminem's fans.

Come on, that was funny. That was funny. You'll get it later. It's pretty funny. That's where the saying comes from, thoughM's fans. Come on, that was funny. That was funny. You'll get it later. It's pretty funny. That's where the saying comes from, though, so I don't know if it is funny. God damn it. Was Dido on this lineup? I think Jewel is very-

Yeah, same cam. Maybe the 99 Dido is Jewel and then Dido came along a couple of years later. Yeah, Dido is early 2000s. Maybe at the English Woodstock they would have had Dido. Is Dido England's answer to Jewel? I think so, yeah. Is Jewel Canadian? Ooh, question.

My hands are small, I know. Do Canadians have small hands? Yeah, typically, yes. And beautiful manners. So, speaking of the insane clown posse, Krep said, performing on the East Stage on Friday night before George Clinton's Parliament Funkadelic, insane clown posse was the first act to incite the crowd

by throwing $100 bills into the audience and watching gleefully while a melee ensued. Okay. All right. These people are hungry. dollar bills into the audience and watching gleefully while a melee ensued okay all right these people are hungry all the food they brought has been confiscated so they have nothing to eat they're really thirsty yeah that's that's gonna be mayhem took it to the next level when they started throwing uh burrito sandwich pizzas yeah but know, we really wanted burrito sandwich pizzas to take off. Just a fact check on Jewel. She is American, born in Utah.

Give me two. Raised in Alaska. Maybe from SL? Oh, yeah. Alaska is sort of like the Canada of the America. You know? He nailed that. Canada is probably the Canada of America as well because Canada is in America. it's weird that america gets to have america when canada is also in america and so

it's like brazil and everywhere else in you know what i mean yeah oh i know what you mean it does make you think that it's crazy uh so the first day ended relatively incident free at least compared to the weekend more things came out afterwards, you know, awful things were happening throughout. But in terms of the mob mentality and the, because it eventually spirals out into Lord of the Fries, Lord of the Flies. Sorry, which one? Lord of the Flies.

Okay. When people were waking up the next day, the Saturday morning, the festival site was already looking worse for wear, with rubbish strewn everywhere and the limited bins on site already overflowing. Like, the footage is ridiculous. You can hardly see the asphalt. Because there's rubbish everywhere. It's so covered with rubbish after one day.

And there's two to go. Yeah. It's disgusting. It's, like, super gross. Because they, you know, they didn't... The refillable water station stuff had half hour lines so like a lot of people were buying bottled water but there's just so much plastic and waste on the ground in the netflix documentary uh there was a woman who was in who was at the 69 festival

and she's like these kids if they if they're not being respected like this they're something bad's gonna happen they're gonna if they're being disrespected and treated like animals they're gonna start behaving like animals um it's like if she's called that this early she's bang on and then there's footage of her back in 99 um going out she's going can i get some garbage bags she's taking garbage bags out and trying to hand them out and say, hey, do you want to clean up your area? And no one's doing it. Far out.

Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me. Yeah, that did get chanted later on by crowds as they were writing, 100%. At people. Not at her, not at this lovely old lady. She's like, I reckon that I'll maybe just pick up some five pieces of rubbish each. It was a bit like that, yeah. I reckon the band pick up some five pieces of rubbish each. It was a bit like that, yeah. I reckon the band would probably be more on her side than yours.

But she was also, you know, I think she sort of understood that maybe it had gone too far. They've already, like all the prices and everything was already, everything was a bit out of control already. Then someone knocked over this art installation, this footage of her going, come on, this is art. Come on, let's put it back up. Come on.

And it's just breaking your heart to see it. Because then she's just not really able to enjoy herself either because she's busy being mum. Yes. That was the thing. When you said mums need to be employed, because she was a mum as well. Her daughter was also working there. I'm like 100%.

If there was 1,000 of her, it would have been an entirely different festival. Yeah. I should say dads could also be there. Oh, yeah. What would dads do? What would dads do? Oh, they'd mow the lawn.

Mow the lawn, maybe tend the barbecues, fall asleep in a chair somewhere. Wear an apron with tits on it. I yelled out pipe down an hour ago. What more do you want me to do? I don't know who raised you kids, but I said pipe down. I'm watching cricket. Yeah, they're in the car park in the Subaru Forest to listen to cricket on the radio.

I love your idea of dads, how it is possibly extrapolated from your experience of a dad. How dare you? John Perkins is an angel. He's done none of those things. He's never told us to pipe down. He's never said pipe down. He's never fallen asleep in a chair.

He's never mowed a lawn in his life. He's never mowed a lawn. He's never had a barbecue. Yeah, so anyway, the place is disgusting. And the punters are getting increasingly annoyed by this. You know, there's footage of MTVs, they're doing a live pay-per-view. People at home can pay $60. And there's a brief thing about the producer who's going out

and he's just going out and getting, it's like increasingly unhinged, sort of very sexually natured, a lot of naked topless people. The documentary has a lot of dicks and boobs on it. I'm like- Sorry, are they aprons or- No, flesh. But it's just funny. I mean, you know, they're a beautiful human body,

but it's just funny hearing a grown man say dicks and boobs. I don't know why. Like he could have said nudity. A lot of nudity. All right, I'll say it again. Here we go. If you think that was not appropriate. No, I loved it.

No, no, no. There was a lot of nudity on the pay-per-views. What kind of nudity? Oh, there were dicks and boobs. We got both kinds. But the producer was sort of like going, it was like he was sort of encouraging a bit, but he was also noticing that it was just,

it all felt it was a bit weird and a bit off. Right, okay. And it's just like, just as time went on, people were, it was like there are no rules, there's no security, no one's doing anything about it, so anything goes. Okay. But so people are at home watching this and they're like, normally a pay-per-view at a music festival would be focusing on the music,

but this was more focusing on just the mayhem around the sites and stuff. But that footage also picked up people getting increasingly annoyed. They eventually turn on MTV. They're pelting the MTV people and stuff. Holy shit. There's footage of this one guy getting angry at one of the MTV presenters because they were starting to play more Backstreet Boys and stuff on MTV.

He's like, I'm sick of all this Backstreet Boys bullshit. And the presenter goes, why don't you tell us what you really think? And he didn't understand that he was being ironic. He goes, I am. This is what I think. Oh, incredible. Brilliant. That's so good.

That's really funny. It is. Well, I guess it good. It's really funny. It is. Well, I guess it's maybe slightly different back then. But getting people saying like, I hate this song, never play it again on national radio. It baffles me that in today's day and age they don't realise Spotify exists and that radio or music TV and stuff like that is not a curated playlist specifically for you.

Yeah. Do you know that? Because you can get those elsewhere. YouTube even. Don't listen to it on your playlist. Very funny, isn't it? Very funny. So people are getting more and more annoyed.

Things are getting a little out of hand. This is a bit more on the grosser side. According to Akari, they were also indignant because of the woefully inadequate waste management surface and the portable latrines, many of which burst after a few hours because of overuse, flooded the place with human waste and an indescribable stench. Within the first few hours, the toilets have exploded. So it's all portaloos as well.

Yeah. And it gets worse and worse as the weekend goes on. Portaloos are gross after a few hours. The phrase burst. Yeah, that's- The lovey has burst. No one is- There's just not enough people dealing with it

because they sold off the service and they've just- The third party's taken the cash and just. We put the portaloos down. There's portaloos there, aren't there? So job done. Oh, you want us to maintain them. Okay. There's an old lady out there with a garbage bag saying,

come on, everyone, we can all clean up. Five bits of poo, Peach. Come on, everyone. Come on, many hands make light work. That's what the teachers used to say at my school. Yeah, but she's looking at it going, hang on. No, don't pick that up. This is an art installation, is it?

Is this poo or art? I don't know. Are you poo or art? I don't know what you're speaking to. She was also on a bunch of drugs, but, you know, went in Rome. They are in Rome. That's great. They are too.

That's great. Excellent work. Excellent. Thank you,. That's great. Excellent work. Excellent. Thank you, Dave. Wow, you're amazing. Back to Akari. Moreover, the free fountain water that people used to quench their thirst, shower, and brush their teeth became unsafe to drink, unknown to them.

No. The seas from the latrines contaminated the water. No. Not only was it undrinkable But in many cases mere contact with it caused skin rashes Or lip and gum infections That's awful Including trench mouth which is associated with World War I Like trench foot?

I think so Trench gums or trench something Oh shit that's awful Because that was the same sort of situation with like trench foot and stuff, not being able to get your feet dry and clean. Yeah, just full of ulcers. Oh, awful. So one of the punters who was at the festival,

she's talking in the documentary and she's like on the Sunday morning she woke up and she could hardly swallow because she got it and her mouth was just full of sores and ulcers. She couldn't swallow, so they just left. Oh, that's awful. So on train wreck, the organiser, Cher, was talking about his experience to that point in the festival. This is more recently.

He's just talking about it in retrospect. He said when I guess asked how he was seeing the festival at that point, he said, we were having fun. We had worked for a year to plan this and it was working. Yes, issues existed, but they were isolated. Nobody came there thinking they were going to stay at the Ritz-Carlton. Okay. There's a big gap from Ritz-Carlton to Trenchmouth.

No safe water. Yeah. Humans need water. But if you think about it, at Ritz-Carlton they do have water and it's drinkable. So, you know, if you're expecting that, come on. Come on. So, Trench Mouth, a condition that causes gum bleeding,

swelling, pain and ulcers. Oh, that's awful. That's just so painful. Even one little, like, like slight even when you bite your tongue or something and has a little bump on it that ruins your week sensitive part of the mouth totally but then add to the knowledge of how awful it is to the fact that you got it because you brush your teeth with contaminated water yeah with toilet with toilet i brush my teeth the toilet i try to make it a vaguer, less descriptive thing,

and I probably zoomed out too far. With toilet. With bathroom. You brush your teeth with bathroom. With house. Coordinator Kreps, he says that Kid Rock planted some seeds of aggression during his early Saturday afternoon set, sandwiched between slots by the tragically Hip and Wyclef Jean.

Wyclef Jean? I don't know. I feel like I always knew how to say his name. Now I'm double guessing myself. Wyclef Jean. Wyclef Jean. Doesn't matter. I thought it was Jean.

Jean, great. But I also don't. I don't know. I'm not an expert so between Tragically Hip and Wyclef Sean

Kid Rock took to the stage he came out in his massive fur coat perfect one of the workers was talking on the doco

was like it's so hot I'm just thinking what is this guy doing has he lost it that coat is too hot but he he pulled it off That coat is too hot. But he pulled it off as soon as he came out on stage.

And according to the San Francisco Examiner, he demanded that the kids pelt the stage with plastic water bottles. Why? Perhaps making a statement about the high price of hydration. Throw water bottles at me. Yeah. Fun. That's fun for everybody.

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All right, Dave. So you were saying when you think of this festival, you think of Limp Bizkit. So let's talk about their set. Okay. According to Mitchell, some people believe the heavy music may have contributed to the chaos that unfolded over the weekend as it captured the spirit of the increasingly angry audience.

And back to the Esquire article. As the temperatures rose, so did the aggression in the bro heavy festival lineup as the new yorker noted only three solo female musicians performed over the whole weekend by the time limp biscuit hit the stage on saturday night edged on by lead singer fred durst some of the audience began tearing wooden panels from the walls during their song break things there was this sort of preamble thing. I watched it. I'm like, I reckon he just did this same preamble every time they played

Break Things, but they're talking about it like, he's really making them revved up. I think that's just the band. I think that's just their band. If you're going to book a band, give them a listen first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The organisers said they didn't really know the music. It's like, what, do they just pick people at random? Yeah, I guess they're like, oh, yeah. Like the organisers said they didn't really know the music. It's like-

What, do they just pick people at random? Yeah, I guess they're like, oh, they're big on the charts. We'll grab them. Yeah, it seems very strange. Yeah, it is. Ask to see some footage of a live show. Yeah, I mean, it does make sense that they don't know who anyone is. I mean, they made James Brown open the show.

Yeah. He's the first to- Oh, I suppose we'll take a pun on this new guy. Yeah, 11am on the main show. Yeah. He's the first. Let's take a punt on this new guy. Yeah, 11 a.m. on the main stage. Perfect. He'll be very grateful, of course. Yeah, that's odd. He's famous for stopping a riot with his music.

That's nighttime music for sure. Yeah, bring him back. Bring him back. Stop the hate. It's going to be hard to bring him back now, Dave. But I bet in 99 they could have brought him back after. What's happened? Oh, I don't want to tell you about it now

He's retired Oh okay In a really permanent fashion No No John Farnham come back to us Yeah He said no take backsies Oh okay

Well that's brave Take his word for it But if he'd brought him out after Limp Bizkit I reckon he could have Really won them back over Oh yeah Yeah

Probably would have been Helpful maybe On the The first night, Korn was in the second last slot and it was similarly like you see the footage of it and the crowd were going berserk. Korn were also hugely popular. Oh, ma, ma, oh, ma, ma, ma, ma.

Remember that song? Freak on a leash. Just starts barking like a dog. Sorry, I just didn't recognize your rendition of it. Do you remember? That sounds exactly like oh, ma, ma, ma, oh, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma. barking like a dog. Sorry, I just didn't recognise your rendition of it. Do you remember? That sounds exactly like That's pretty accurate, right? Well, I knew what you were talking about. I always thought it was

But it's interesting. Yeah, you thought he was saying something different. I feel like mine's more like a dog. Yours is more like Gollum. Yours sounds like Hey oh my mama Yeah maybe that's it Is that corn? That's corn

During their set Durst said it's time to let yourself go Right now Cause there are no motherfucking rules out there The mosh pit was out of control But afterwards in an interview Durst denied encouraging it saying i didn't see anyone getting hurt you don't see that when you're looking out

at a sea of people and the stage is 20 feet in the air and you're performing and you're feeling your music how do i expect us to see something bad going on of course there is footage of him crowd surfing on some of the the walls that have been taken down. So he must have known something had happened. Yeah. I don't usually crowd surf on bits of wall during this part of the set. And then there's footage of him coming just off stage and he said, you can't blame us for that when he was asked a question.

So it's like he must have had some idea. How was I to know? How could I possibly have known? I don't think you can blame them for doing their normal show. I think hopefully now they would understand that this is an unsafe situation and they would pull back a bit. And there's a few bands who we'll talk about later who probably maybe learnt hopefully the same lesson.

But I don't know, maybe because it feels like now it's common sense, the same lesson. But I don't know, maybe because it feels like now it's common sense, but were there ever festivals this big with bands who played music like that? I'm not sure if there were. You wouldn't think there'd be that aggressive music played in front of that many people. What about when Metallica does a concert in Russia or something? Oh, that's true.

Three or 400,000 people have turned up. The security was there with batons. Yeah, okay. And riot gear and they were just. And a government they're terrified of probably. So, they want to do the wrong thing. Pantera were the opening band for that. Really?

And Akedaka played as well. It's called the Monsters of Rock. That's my Akedaka. I think that's very good. Sounds like Marvin Gaye. What's that? Sounds like akedaka. Is that Thunderstruck?

I love that. I love that. I love that song. It's fantastic. It was from the year you were born. Was it? Yeah. That's fantastic.

It was from the year you were born. Was it? Yeah. Oh. So later that night, like I said, after Limp Bizkit was Rage Against the Machine and Metallica, sadly during Metallica's set, one festival goer, David DeRozier, collapsed in the crowd at the Metallica performance and later died,

believed to be from hypothermia, probably secondary to heat stroke. Oh, my God. According to Syracuse.com, his mother then sued the festival promoters and the doctors on site because they were negligent by not providing enough fresh water and adequate medical care for the 400,000 attendees. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, to me it feels like people say it was just where do you point the finger?

I'm like it feels like it's the organizers. Yeah, it feels the organizers. They've created this basically a dystopian scenario in a very dystopian place like a disused Air Force base and they're surprised that when they basically take away basic human rights like clean water and stuff that things- Things go badly.

Yeah. And that people would hold them responsible for such things. But it still feels like they've kind of, the organisers have always sort of shifted blame and none of the articles really want to just go, it was, because I mean you you've still got everyone has individual responsibility as well, I guess, so it is tricky. Yeah, but I don't think it's David's fault that he got hypothermia.

Oh, certainly not. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. It's crazy, isn't it? Not in that case. Yeah, of course. And then you get, well, the organisers go like, you know, well, you know, these are adults.

They can look after themselves. They could bring water and food of their own. Yeah. Except I took it all. They can. They just had to eat it all just before coming in. Just before. And then that should have got them through the weekend.

Yeah. What, three days? Just take a shitload of drugs and you're like, that's what I did in 69. Yeah, appetite suppressing drugs. Yeah. All the kids are doing it. All the kids are doing it. All the kids are doing it. Get yourself a 24-pack of Fat Blaster, appetite suppressants.

No, they'd probably take that off you. Yeah, you can't do that. Throughout the festival, there were multiple reports of sexual assaults. There were later protests by the National Organization of Women against the sexual violence that women endured at the festival. According to Kreps, whenever a woman walked on stage, whether to emcee or perform, they were immediately greeted with demands to show us your tits.

Beautiful. Apparently, just like in the doco, there's footage of everyone's got signs, or not everyone, but there's lots of signs and that sort of stuff. Somehow, it just became this big thing, show us your tits, and it's really gross and uncomfortable. Yeah. The festival's official website. And so you go, well, this is individuals doing this.

And, of course, you know, they shouldn't. But the festival's official website even posted photos of topless photo goers, Kreps continues. Considering how rife the festival was with sexual assaults, it was downright grotesque that the Woodstock site would post photos Kreps continues. He was like, ugh. In the docker, some of the things he was saying about, like, you know, obviously it's not good that sexual assaults were happening, but, you know, any city of this size, it was a quarter of a million people, there'd be assaults happening.

What? And so why is, he's just like, I don't, ugh. Yeah, gross. It's such a bad take. Yeah. You know, if you're going to have a festival with a lot of people, these things happen is basically what he's saying. Yeah, and it's like, oh, nah. I reckon if you'd done some things better, they wouldn't.

That's the point. Just had enough people, you know. Have that peace patrol. That's right. It's not the worst idea, but have them trained. Have enough of them. Yeah, give them a bit of training. Make it feel safe.

This is just a look like a super like and documentaries can make things go one way or another. But, you know, just watching it, it just felt like the whole thing was increasingly unsafe and starting from a pretty dodgy spot. You know, you're starting from a spot of everyone's out in the sun, drinking lots of beer, doing all sorts of drugs. Everyone's out of their minds and it gets worse from there. And then we're going to slowly take away toilets because they no longer work. Clean water. You're possibly not going to be take away toilets because they no longer work. Clean water.

You're possibly not going to be able to afford food and drinks. The Guardian's Rebecca Nicholson wrote that Woodstock 99's most sinister legacy is the sheer number of acts of sexual abuse and harassment that took place over those three days. A consequence of both poor security and the climate of impunity and toxic masculinity that pervaded the rock scene of the late 1990s. And I think just in particular that festival as well for all those other reasons. The glorification of nudism, recreational shamelessness, and free love hit an atrocious machismo and a nauseating lack of respect for women's sexual freedom.

So, yeah, like I said, I i say i'm not gonna you know there's many individual incidents that are documented but i feel like it's probably we don't you know don't need to go into it anymore based on this being a meant to be a lightly entertaining podcast yeah it's like just yeah the environment you've created lends itself to that. And so it's crazy to sort of be like, oh, I mean, what could we possibly do? It happens is a baffling take. Yeah, and it's still saying that years after. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So much time to reflect on it. Yeah, surely you've had so many conversations about this and that's still your take and opinion. And the world has moved on so much. Even in 20 years about all these issues. Yeah. You go, even if you're saying, oh, I didn't really understand it back then, you've got no excuse now.

Exactly right, yeah. I'd argue you had no excuse then. So by Sunday morning, tired, sunburnt, grossed out by the unsanitary nature of the site, large chunks of the crowd started heading home, some of them with trench mouth. Perfect. Souvenir for the ages. And there's footage of people leaving just like,

I can't, I'm just fried. I've been out in the sun all day. I just can't get up. There's footage of people just sleeping on the ground under pieces of cardboard and stuff. Awful. Yeah. Those who stayed were having to pay increasingly exorbit under pieces of cardboard and stuff. Awful. Yeah. Those who stayed were having to pay increasingly exorbitant prices

for food and water, like I was saying before, like maybe $12 for a bottle. So a resentment to the festival organizers was continuing to grow. There's footage of some wild press conferences that the organizers were doing each day with the media. They started off pretty positive on the opening days. They're shifting blame when getting asked questions about why isn't there more security?

How well organised is this? This feels like chaos. And they're like, no, you know, we think everything's going great. You know, just sort of they're still sort of trying to fake it until they make it or something. Like people go, these journalists are out there. They can see what's actually happening. No, no, no.

There's plenty of water and people are allowed to bring in everything they could possibly want. Yeah, of course. No one's taking a poo in the water. It's fine. No, not at all. So, I don't know. I'll drink some right now.

I don't know what you're talking about. He fills out a fresh glass of Perrier sparkling. Mmm. Mmm. Poo free. There was also a strong rumour going around the festival that a secret act was going to close out the festival after the Red Hot Chili Peppers played as the last official act on the night.

Even like during the festival, why do I always forget his name? Michael Lang was like interviewed saying, so Chili Peppers there, that's going to finish the festival? He said they're the last official act. But yeah, that's all I'll say. But we might have something special planned. So the rumors are going around and like that's fueling going, oh, fuck, I wonder what this is going to be.

So rumors were rife, including with the staff. They're like, this is top secret. So, there's footage at the time, people going, I've heard Rolling Stones. I've heard it's Prince. I've heard it's Michael Jackson. Someone's like, I think Guns N' Roses are reforming to play this. So, it's just out of control.

And people are going, well, you know, I'm hanging around because this is going to be something for the ages. Even if they get someone pretty good at this point, people are going to be disappointed. Yeah. Even you get Prince, but the people who are expecting the Stones are like, oh, it's Prince. Yeah.

You're expecting Michael Jackson and it's Guns N' Roses. Like, oh, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No matter what. This happened at Meredith like 10 years ago, Meredith Music Festival. They had a secret slot. They obviously didn't learn from this. And it was similar.

You know, it was almost like comical and probably was in a lot of cases people, you know, saying I've heard it's these sort of huge names. Nirvana. I've heard it's Paul McCartney and stuff like that. And it ended up being Bob Logg III, who's like a very good bluesy rock guy, sort of slide guitar music, just a man and a guitar. Cannot live up to the Paul McCartney hype. Never.

Like, it was – they admit that. They're like, yeah, that was a big mistake. He was never – we set him up to fail. Like, no matter what, you're not going to live up to it. It's like on The Masked Singer when they reveal it and they have to pretend that everyone knows. Oh, my God. It's an extra from Naibus.

It's a footballer's wife. But they've been, like, guessing, like, oh. I think it's Madonna. It's Madonna. I heard it's Will Smith. Yeah. And then it's like, oh, of course. It's Greg from down the street. It's Greg from down the street.

It's Greg from down the street. I love Greg. Yeah. All week we've been guessing superstars. Yeah. From down the street. From down the street. So, as the day continued on, the vibe was increasingly strained

and it all reached boiling point during the Chili Peppers set. So, on that final Sunday, the main stage, this was how it went. Willie Nelson, the Brian Seltzer Orchestra, which is going to be fun. It was fun. Everlast, Elvis Costello, Jewel, Creed featuring a member of The Doors and then the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Yeah, right. Which one from The Doors?

I think maybe the- Greg. It was. The organ player? Were you known by name? Robbie Krieger. Oh, I love Krieger's work. Do you?

What a guy. Yeah. Guitarist. Big fan of- The Doors. Krieger. Krieger. With Krags by the warpen.

Featuring Robbie Krieger. Sorry, we don't actually have Robbie Crager on stage, but we've just changed all the lyrics of our song just to be about Robbie Crager. The Robbie Crager tribute show featuring Creed. Rumours were rife. Do we have Crager? Have they got Crager? I've heard Craig's got Crager.

And some people were like, oh, it's connecting back to the original Woodstock, but the doors didn't play at the original Woodstock. No, but it would make sense if they had brought out the Who or something from the original. Sorry, but after Krieg, was it the Chili Peppers or someone else? Then it was the Chili Peppers, right? So most of the focus tends to be on Limp Bizkit's Saturday Night set. And there's even articles that I read, and some of these that I'm quoting,

which might throw out some of the things they say, but one of them said straight after Limp Bizkit was Red Hot Chili Peppers. But when they say straight after, they mean 24 hours after. What? Yeah. So they were trying to make it – it made it sound like in that article that it went Limp Bizkit made everything hectic and then the Chili Peppers set

fully exploded. Right. But it was like there was a day with Jewel and stuff in between. Yeah, Willie Nelson. Yeah. It was fun in the docker they had Willie Nelson on stage playing on the road again and that's when they were showing everyone leaving. That's good documentary areas.

That's good stuff. People washing their hands they got jules hands small hands children's hands but they they did have um footage of jewel and other acts being like it's feeling a bit off the vibe's a little bit weird and they're like let's go straight to the van and get the fuck out of here and that that was happening all through the day like there's footage of jewel coming off just being like oh that was you know weird oh it would suck to like play a festival that big you know you'd think that should be one of the best gigs of your life and then to get off stage and be like all right let's get the fuck out of here because you've been it's just like like it's poorly curated. It seems like because of the bigger sex on the lineup,

the crowd was skewed towards people who wanted to hear Limp Bizkit and Korn and Metallica and the heavier bands. So it sort of throws under the bus some of the other acts. It's difficult. Even though they did seem to go okay, but I think, you know, I mean I imagine Jules being asked to show us your tits and stuff like that probably as well. They didn't show that, but by the sounds of it,

that was going on the whole time. Yeah. There was a show with Crow, they sent her to this footage and she said, you'd have to pay a lot more for a ticket to see that or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. And then she was being interviewed after and someone yells

something incomprehensible and she's like, oh, what? And then she's like, tell you what, I reckon I want to go out there and meet some of these. It sort of made it sound like she was going to go knock some people out. I'm like, yeah, fuck yeah, Sheryl Crow. Good on you, Sheryl Crow. Yeah, let's fight violence with violence. Yeah.

I reckon that would be, that's probably what I could have solved it. Send Sheryl Crow out there to knock some people out. Find the biggest guy out there. You know nothing's going to knock him out. Nothing fights guns better than bigger guns. Bigger guns. There's no bigger guns than crowsies. That's right.

Sheryl Crow. Yes. So, Chili Peppers closing out the show. Final act or is it? Oh, yeah, that's right because Michael Jackson's coming out. Michael Jackson's coming. Michael Jackson's playing with the Rolling Stones. They've got the Chili Peppers open for the Beatles.

That's fucking sick. That's going to be so great. According to Akari, the Sunday night chaos was triggered by an absurd decision to hand out tens of thousands of lit candles to attendees and asking them to perform a spontaneous homage to the victims of the mass shootings at columbine which had taken place months before so during that this i think this is what they thought was sort of the big finale and for a little while it looked awesome the whole crowd 100 150 however many people left

thousand people with candles candles in the air. Candles in the air. Yeah, that would look beautiful. While Chili Peppers played Under the Bridge, a song about heroin addiction, I think, in tribute to the Columbine shoot. Okay. And then there's interviews with the organisers, like retrospectively going, you know, the kids, their generation just doesn't really care about things like ours did.

They don't care about mass shootings. They have no respect for people who have died. It's their fault. It's not that they just had a hellish few days because of us. They were at the end of their tether in a lot of ways. Yeah, fuck. We treated them like animals. We kept poking them, singing off key.

Me, me, my mole. Me, mole, my me. Yeah, it was weird that they reacted like animals. We kept poking them, singing off key. Me, me, my mole. Me, mole, my me. Yeah, it was weird that they reacted like this. They're so strange kids these days, honestly. So I don't know if you can guess what happens next. I'm going to guess. Everyone just sits down and has a chat about it. Yeah, when the candles come out, Elton comes out,

candle in the wind, thank you and good night. Seems to me you're living your life like a candle in the wind. Jonathan from Korn comes back out. My, my, my, my, my, my, my candle wind. Back to Akari. So the candles get handed out. It's looking beautiful for a little bit. Then instead of just, I guess, putting them out with their fingers,

you know, like you would have done in a class. Lick them. Put them back in the box for next year. Yeah. Instead, the audience used the candles to set fires. What? The band ignored the promoters who suggested they ask for calm on stage. Apparently, Anthony Kiedis, singer of the Chili Peppers,

told an increasingly overwhelmed John Shear that they wouldn't listen to me. I'm a musician, not a prophet. He's like, come on, man, I'm a serious artist. As he stands there naked with a sock on his dick. Flea was literally just flopping the chop out the whole time. He left himself nowhere to go. He's flipping and flopping all over the place. Flipping and flopping.

Just coming. No, he wasn't taking that far. Coming out onto stage naked. He left himself nowhere to go. He's flipping and flopping all over the place. Flipping and flopping. Just coming. Like, imagine. No, it wasn't taking him that far. Coming out onto stage naked. Yeah. Yeah, there's no reveal. Normally, you get a shirt off. Yeah.

You know. And then pants off, the pants rip off, and everyone's like, whoa. But you're just going out naked. It's weird. Yeah, it's a bit weird, Flea. It's like, Jesus Christ, Flea. Put some pants on. Melbourne born, Flea. Really's like, Jesus Christ, Flea. Put some pants on. Melbourne-born, Flea. Really?

Am I right in saying that? My favourite musician. You know, we love to claim. Yeah, now that I know that. Now that I know that, I take back what I said. We love you, Flea. Let me just double-check that, please. That is true. It is true.

Michael Peter Balzari, official name, is an Australian musician and actor, according to Wikipedia. Yes. Correct. He was born in Melbourne. He didn't grow up here, though, did he? And then his family moved to Rye in New York. I should have finished that. I stopped at the camera and went, Rye.

Oh, down the peninsula. Beautiful part. When he was four. So, I mean, he's from Melbourne like I'm from Kynan. Yeah, I was going to say, if Matt gets to claim Kynan. But you never lose the accent though, do you? No. Well, I think I picked up a lot of this accent in Charlton actually

where I moved from Kynan. They're the formative years, start of primary school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same as Flea. Same as Flea. That's why he's always saying short, flat, white, thanks. Is that what you're saying? Short, flat, white, yeah.

Is that a thing? Yeah, because you're from Melbourne, you know that. You know that's a real thing. Is it a real thing? And that's what we all say, a short, flat, white. Is that you asking for a thing? Yeah because you're from Melbourne You know that You know that's a real thing Is it a real thing? And that's what we all say A short flat white Yes Is that you asking for a haircut?

Yeah Short black back and sides white please Yeah Is that okay? Skinny Soy Thank you Yeah skinny

Can I get a skinny haircut? Skinny soy So yeah So Kiedis apparently is like I'm not gonna They're not gonna listen to me Instead So does that mean that they've gone off stage?

They've gone off stage, yep. And he said, hey, can you go back out and be like, hey, stop setting fire to the thing. Because there's, you know, orange glows in the distance. There's like three separate fires. Jesus. That have started. Sheer apparently is going.

I never saw this coming. Everything had been going perfectly until now. Everything's so smooth. I know it's on the Ritz Carlton. Which is where I'm staying. I know there's shit in the water. Instead of going out and calming things down, instead they went out and played a cover of Jimi Hendrix's Fire.

What? They're not going to listen to me if I go out and say, hey, guys, let's pipe down. Pipe down. They're not going to listen. I'll go out. I'll calm them with music yeah i know what to do i know what to play i'm gonna fight fire with the song fire

off the top of my head i'll think of a song to play okay what can i see what can i see what can i see because he's like me any suggestions from the audience hey gal are you burning fire burning fire fire okay fantastic yeah no we can do that. Oh, Hendrix. Yeah, perfect. So, you know, it took about three minutes for the song. And then those three. More fires. During that, the three existing fires became a dozen. It also became clear as they finished their set that there was no big name secret act.

There was none. None. But they played some footage of Jimi Hendrix on the big screen. And that was none. No. They played some footage of Jimi Hendrix on the big screen and that was it. So then why did they say there was a secret act? They didn't say it was a secret act. They said, I just won't say any more. Oh. Carefully alluding to something. Yeah, that there was the last official, sure.

But they had a video. Yeah. And they were handing out candles. Oh, my God. They fucked up. So now that's the end of the festival. Everyone go home. Go home in the morning.

Yeah, go to bed. Go home in the morning. Go to bed right now. But you've been hyped up. Fires have started. We're just cutting you off now. Nothing to focus your energy or attention on. Just, you know, as you want to, go back to your tent, have a sleep,

and then you head off in the morning. I assume that'll be fine. Right, nearly, thanks. Yeah. Well, this place cleaned up by 10. That's not what happened. What? What do you mean?

I'd be straight to bed. That's weird, isn't it? Because they got them fired up expecting something. There was an anti-climax. Yeah. Fires were burning because they gave them an easy way of making fire. Yeah. And then this is back to Akari.

The pyromaniac impulse gave way to euphoric violence, befitting the novel Lord of the Flies. They raised everything to the ground, leaving the venue in a state that one organizer the next day likened to war-torn Bosnia. They destroyed the commercial tents, broke into cash registers, toppled sand towers, raised the hippie-inspired murals covering the security perimeter,

and tried to force their way into the VIP area and the organizers' offices. So all the organizers were locked away, you know, fearing for themselves and their lives. Who were in their panic rooms? Just it went crazy. Like they were literally climbing up the towers and pulling them down. They had just lost control.

Fires were going off everywhere. ATMs were being turned over there, smashing them open and trying to get the cash out of them yeah it was just absolute mayhem eventually it took a while but eventually the uh like heavily armored police came in and that sort of ended it but this was after quite a while maker of the trainwreck doco series, Jamie Crawford, believes the final night of chaos is hilariously representative of the whole event in many ways.

That's a quote from him. Saying, the intention behind the candles was honourable. They were trying to highlight a social ill of the time and they had successfully had this candlelit vigil moment in the original Woodstock and also in Woodstock 94. However, despite the best intentions, it landed at precisely the wrong minute of the wrong hour of the wrong day. As Kreps wrote, following a weekend of extreme heat, overpriced vendors and general bad vibes,

fire was the flint that ignited the crowd. The song fire, he reckons. We all know what happened next. Bonfires broke out throughout the crowd. Vehicles were flipped and set ablaze. So there's all these cars that were left there the next day just burnt out on their holy shit wow eventually when the the troopers and local law enforcement came in they defused the riots but griffith's air force base still ended up looking like a bomb hit it so in a conclusion sort of who was to blame i mean i think i've sort

of made my vague i've probably slanted my telling of it slightly to what you know there's obviously like awful people doing awful things there sure yes but i think the overarching blame has to go on the organizers absolutely as soon as they yeah they, they just. They fucked it. They fucked it. Yeah. Like in every way. Yep. They did nothing right. Like amazingly nearly nothing at all right. Yeah. Probably even just taking out, and I know it's ridiculous to blame heavy music for stuff,

but even if you just took out those bands, it would have changed the vibe of the festival straight away. It would have attracted a different crowd. But even still, they would have had the vibe of the festival straight away. It would have attracted a different crowd. But even still, they would have had an awful time. Yeah. But potentially wouldn't have gone quite as violent, maybe. So you could change elements, but I don't think you could turn it into a good festival. No, they really set themselves up for failure.

Yeah. So who was to blame? Judy Berman of Time magazine notes that the festival goers vented all the anger they had accumulated during three days of aggressive music inflammatory messages and systematic mistreatment by incompetent and unscrupulous organizers i think that wraps it up pretty nicely berman contends that the festival was a complete train wreck from the beginning it assumed that 250 000 people could function for three days as a community capable of self-regulating under conditions of total abandonment by the organizers and that no

serious incidents would take place speaking to crawford the director of train wreck mitchell tries to get him to place the blame somewhere so obviously he's seen a lot of the footage he's put together a documentary system he's he goes to big lengths to be like, you know, we're just showing you what happened. You make up your own mind sort of stuff. John Schur and the organisers of Woodstock 99 have not accepted any responsibility for the failures of the festival. Perfect.

And over the years have placed the blame on Limp Bizkit and the crowd in attendance. They're like, is that Fred Durst? He did it. That dastardly Durst. You book Fred Durst, he does a Fred Durst performance, then you go, how dare you. How dare you Durst it up in here.

I don't think he has nothing to answer to or anything. Yeah. But it just feels like that's kind of ridiculous. It feels like by the time Fred Durst took to the stage, tensions were already bubbling and people were already in a completely fucked situation where the organisers had paid no attention to environmental factors. Yes.

And, yeah, weren't supplying basic human needs. And it was set fire to over 24 hours after he had performed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, I don't think it's Fred Durst. He's long gone by that bit. Can he claim to not have any idea what was going on in the audience? No. over 24 hours after he had performed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I don't think it's Fred Durst. He's long gone by that bit. Can he claim to not have any idea what was going on in the audience?

No. But it feels like that's about where his responsibility ends. Yeah. Discussing the role of the organisers at the festival, Crawford reflected, talking to the producers about it because, as you will have seen, they have their own very distinct memories of it, partly, I think, because they are responsible for the gig and they will inevitably remember it with slightly rose-tinted glasses. And also because they saw their own limited view of the events, they weren't camping half a mile away from the action or drinking from the dodgy pipes. So I don't think they could have as a visceral memory of those events as the people who actually experienced them.

So I think in some respects they made valid arguments and in other respects they deflected wherever possible the problems that had occurred. He's been very diplomatic. Yeah. I think sometimes it's harder to be critical when you've met and interviewed people, spent a lot of time with them. You're like, oh, you know, they seem reasonable.

You don't want to be like this fucking guy who I got along with quite well. But the problem is, you know, as a director, you probably can't get sucked in by that stuff necessarily. It just seems so like relatively black and white to me. There's so many factors, but they're at the top, like so many of them funnel down from decisions I made. Yeah, I feel like they're behind all those factors in some way or another. In the end, though, Crawford believes there isn't a single factor

that can explain what triggered the events of Woodstock 99. I think that fundamentally the takeaway from this story is that it was a sort of perfect cocktail of unfortunate events, missteps, and mishaps that individually might not have been problematic, but together combined to bring this thing tumbling down and leave it a charred and smoky mess. It's interesting that some of the people, like a lot of the people who went to the festival as teenagers

and young adults who were interviewed in the doco were like, honestly, it's one of the best weekends of my life as well. So, you know, there's that side of things as well, which, yeah, that doesn't get talked about as much, but a lot of people had a great time. Well, memory can't be trusted. Yeah, that's right. The New York Times asked Rage Against the Machine

for their opinion of the festival's controversy. Tom Morello, the guitarist, wrote an article in 1999, not long after the festival, saying, Hey man, leave the kids alone. I've had enough of the frenzied demonization of young people surrounding Woodstock 99. Yes, Woodstock was filled with predators, the degenerate idiots who assaulted those women, the greedy promoters who wrung every cent out of the thirsty concert goers, and last but not least, the predator media that turned a blind eye to the real violence and scapegoated a quarter of a million music fans at Woodstock 99,

the vast majority of whom had the time of their lives. So, yeah, I mean, some of that stuff is a little bit flippant, I think, about I wonder if he'd maybe word some of that stuff differently. But his overall point of, you know, a lot of the blame is kids today. Of course, this is what would happen if you let these teenagers in 1999 let loose. It feels like a social experiment. What was that bonus episode we did years ago about? Stanford prison experiments.

There you go. Isn't that college students of the 70s or whenever it was. Yeah. They would all be like this. No, it was this fucked experiment basically. You put them in this fucked situation and they act a bit fucked. Yeah.

It took three weeks to clean up the site after the festival. Yuck. It cost around $78,000. Did that lady stick around? Yeah, she was there with a few garbage bags. One garbage bag at a time? It was just her. Yeah, it cost about $80,000 to fix up the grass

in the limited grass areas there. And, yeah, I think I've already quoted her, but this quote comes up in every article about it. The San Francisco Examiner journalist Jane Ganahl wrote an article about the event famously and fairly dramatically describing it as the day the music died. It is a bit dramatic. We've had music since.

Music has survived. Yeah, festivals have survived. Well-run festivals continue to happen with adequate toilets and drinking water. I think, I mean, all of this just made me feel so lucky to have Meredith Music Festival with their capped audience. Yes. They don't allow more than 12,000 even though it sells out every year.

Yes. All the facilities are great. Yes. You know, it's not the Ritz-Carlton. Oh, it's not. It's delightful. It's also not Woodstock 99. Yes.

It's probably halfway between the two. Yeah. Yeah, so that's pretty much the report. And I think if you find it interesting and you want to see the footage, it's some of the wildest live music rock and roll footage you'll see of a crowd that big just heaving. Wow. How many people was it again?

250,000 sounds like at the peak but 400 000 overall that's what i think and then you know there were others who probably that's insanely big yeah that's too many people yeah that's like it is literally a city's population yeah at the time of the festival was the third biggest city in new york state right but i thought quickly finish with a question, is there going to be another Woodstock Festival? Yes. Come on, let's go.

Third or fourth time lucky. Can we perform there? If you've got umbilical brothers, bring Dugo on over. We'll calm her down. Do you think of us as like the modern-day umbilical brothers? Yeah. Even though the umbilical brothers are still around and performing? That's okay.

My first ever gig, I got called a Celia Bacola tribute act. She's not dead and was arguably on the rise at that time. Yeah, like, what, eight years older than you? Not even. Yeah. So, a baffling take. Will you be doing that act at Woodstock? Yes, of course.

Obviously. Hello, I'm celia and then i'll wink at him no i just think like get us on stage yeah you want to calm everybody down why not sit quietly have a laugh have a learn yeah we're talking about something it'll be fun i reckon though yeah especially if we can get it in a place that's really hot with no shade i think we'll really get to- We'll hold their attention for sure. I think we'll do really well.

I think that'll be our best gig ever. Put us on the Emerging Artist- Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll follow Ben Lee. Yeah. Before Moby. That's our sweet spot. Perfect.

Ben Lee, do go on Moby. That's good. There was some other weird fact. There was- On that stage, on the Emerging Artist stage, it was, who was it? John Entwistle from The Who. Yeah.

Played a solo set on the Emerging Artist stage in 1999. From The Who. From The Who. Okay. Sure. So he played at both Woodstocks then? Yeah. Oh, that's.

Yeah, there was one of two I think he maybe did. But it's just so funny that- Emerging artists. They're obviously like, we want to have you, but you're playing like songs no one knows. You can't do a main stage. And he's the bass player. Was he just doing the bass parts?

I think he was doing originals. Doo, doo, doo. Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, was doing originals. Doo, doo, doo. Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. Everyone now. Doo, doo, doo. Were those crime shows out yet? CSI. CSI.

CSI. They hadn't had their second wind yet. So I think if the CSI shows were out, he could have just played all the theme songs. Here we go. Remember this one? Miami. I remember one of my friends when we were in year seven had a CSI video game and you had to go around and, like, collect samples at crime scenes.

And I'm now realising I don't know if that was the most appropriate game for a 12-year-old to be playing. Wow, no. It was a bit grim. Yeah, going around with a black light and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, for long. Although it teaches them.

Yeah, I mean, you've got to learn at some point, how to use a black light on a crime scene. I never, you've got to learn at some point how to use a black light on a crime scene. I never saw it. Is that something they do? How to not leave evidence. So, yes. So, the question, will there ever be another one?

According to Esquire, in short, probably not. At the end of HBO's 2021 documentary, Woodstock 99, Peace, Love and Rage, which is the other one that came out. It's funny how things come out in pairs. It pairs yeah ants and a bug's life all over again exactly like that um so in that other doco Michael Lang was asked if he thought there would be another Woodstock given the carnage that unfolded at the turn of the millennium he said that at his age he'd learned not to rule anything out but it's not looking likely anytime soon. The legendary promoter passed away in January of this year at the age of 77 from non-Hodgkin lymphoma. In the years after Woodstock 99, Lang had found success writing about the original

festival with his 2009 book, The Road to Woodstock, that became a New York Times bestseller. He even tried to stage a 50th anniversary festival in 2019, which was ultimately cancelled. Set to be held in Bethel, New York, suffered a number of blows before organisers pulled the plug. It was first reduced from three days to one, financial and legal difficulties emerged early on, and many headliners, including Miley Cyrus, Jay-Z, Santana, and Dead & Company, amongst many others, cancelled their appearances due to the chaotic production process. Just sounds like everything.

Yeah. Because he's got the name and he sort of kind of was great, but he stumbled upon it. The original one was a mess as well. Yeah. So it just became iconic. So if someone else had the name, you know, like Ian Chug, whatever that, Michael Chug.

There was an Australian promoter called Chug Entertainment. Get Chug on board. Get Chug on board. Chuggy. Get Chug on. If we can all pitch in, get Chug the rights to Woodstock, then I reckon it could be bad. It would be golden.

Too bad Gdynski's not around anymore. He would have made it work. And it's a bummer that the 50th has been, that would have been primo, 2019, 50 years. Yeah, totally. And I think, you know, I think the right person doing it could do something great with it. Obviously, you'd have to learn, study the tapes.

Yeah. And nearly do nothing that they did in the past. I reckon ignore the peace, love kind of thing. Let that go, you know. You can't do both. Just toilets and enough food and shelter for everybody. Just do that. Yeah, instead of giving everyone lit candles,

maybe just give them like semi-automatic rifles. All right, we're all going to shoot into the air as a tribute to, you know, I don't know. I don't know, the troops. The troops or a bushfire or something. Yeah, a bushfire. That would be nice. Because the tribute to the gun violence was fire.

Yeah. So maybe a bushfire tribute with guns. That's nice. I think the logic adds up there somehow. Anyway, the festival was officially cancelled on the 31st of July 2019. And with Michael Lang passing, it's probably unlikely that another Woodstock festival will happen. I don't know if that's sad or not. It's unfortunate that it ended in such a horrible way, but maybe it's appropriate.

It seems just like the whole history of Woodstock was chaotic. Yeah. And a lot of the 69 one, I reckon reckon is rose-coloured glasses stuff as well. Absolutely. Of course it is. There was more footage there. I reckon you'd have more stories of Grimm's stuff there too. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

It's always nostalgia and, yeah, looking back on things and going, maybe that wasn't so bad. But it was. It was that bad. Did anyone die at the 99 one? Yes. There was the guy who died in the mosh pit. Was there anyone else? Because I think there was also a couple at the first one too,

so it's like. Yeah, I think a festival with any deaths occurring there is not great, is it? Not ideal. I know the music died that day. Of course. There you go. Rest in peace.

I hope it'll come back any day now. I miss music. You know, haven Rest in peace. I hope he'll come back any day now. I miss music. You know, haven't heard it since I was nine. But we can't be trusted with it. We can't be trusted with music. Not young people these days. Are we young people? It's all relative.

Are we middle-aged yet? No. No, I was around in the middle ages. Right. Is that what you mean? Yeah. Two other deaths were reported at the festival. A 44-year-old succumbed to the heat on Friday

and he'd also been an attendee at Woodstock 69. Oh, wow. And a 28-year-old woman was hit by a car while walking along the road when leaving the concert. Oh. Yeah. That one feels less of the responsibility of the concert organizers but um maybe unless it was like there were no the shuttle buses were meant to be running

so she had to walk just to leave yeah which i wouldn't put it past them yeah just get just to get out i'd be i'd be bailing so quickly yes i'd be out of there yeah i feel like yeah you'd Yeah. I'd be out of there. Yeah. I feel like, yeah. No way. You'd hope that the band you wanted to see was Bush or someone,

James Brown even would be ideal. Oh, that'd be great, wouldn't it? You're done by 11.45. Yeah. Yeah, so that is the story of Woodstock 99. And the fifth most voted for topic this block. There you go. Great report.

Thanks for bringing that to the pod because, yeah, like I said, I haven't seen any of the docos. I knew very little about that. No, I didn't know anything about it. Do you have any interest in seeing them now or is it like, well, I know enough? That's Sam Groom, but you reckon the series is very well made? Yeah, I thought it was. And, you know, obviously there's many other bits and pieces

that I didn't talk about. Yeah, I think that would be pretty interesting. I mean, after I did the Fyre Festival episode, I assume you went and watched the documentary. Yes, yeah, yeah. Did you actually? Yeah, yeah. Ah, I was joking.

But good, good to know. I watched one of them anyway. I inspired you. Yeah. Jar Rule. Was it Jar Rule? Yeah. What a guy. Jar. Jar.. Was it jar rule? Yeah. What a guy.

Jar. Jar. I want to know what Jar's thinking. All right. Well, I think that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show where we get to thank a few of our great Patreon supporters. If you want to support the show, you can do so by going to patreon.com. There's a bunch of different levels depending on what you're into.

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London. London. Have a pint of John Smith. But for any future live podcasts we do, you also get to hear about that first and get the discounts, yeah. That's right. The first thing we like to do normally in this section of the show is the fact, quote, or question section,

which has a jingle, I think, at some of those. Fact, quote, or question. Ding. He always remembers the ding. And the way this works is if you want to get involved, you go to the Sidney Scharnberg level or above, and you get to give us a fact, a quote, or a question. I'll write it out for each and every week

and uh this week um what is it if i explain that well enough nailed it yeah give yourself a title we read out a fact quite a question or brag or suggestion of your choosing and uh yeah we have a good time uh so first up this week i should say i don't read these so read them so if anyone's going oh why did you you sort of sounded like you didn't fully know how that sentence was going to end? You fumbled over words and you sounded awfully strange. That's just who I am. I remember the time recently, it was a tongue twister or something and you lost your mind

afterwards and you're like, that was a thrill. What a ride. I was flying by the seat of my pants. I couldn't believe I landed it. I felt like I was gripping on the deal. I felt like I was on a bucking bronco. Yeah. The first one this week comes from Stephen Edmonds,

aka enthusiast in upping my level to make a certain type of submission. I wonder what it could be. What does that mean? Stephen is offering us a fact. Fact. Here it is. The Australian Women's Weekly Children's Birthday Cake Book might be quite well known.

Man, that was my favourite book as a kid probably. Absolutely, of course. Man. There's a farm. Yeah, what did you have? The duck. I love the pool. Oh, the pool with the jelly. The water. Yeah, There's a farm. Yeah, what did you have? The duck. I love the pool. I was going to say the pool with the jelly.

With the jelly water. Yeah, that's so good. The piano. Oh, yeah, piano's nice. There's a duck. I think I had a piano at one point. Yeah, I love the piano because you've got white chocolate keys. Yeah, yum.

Which I don't like as much anymore, but as a kid, the sweeter the better. So, anyway, Stephen goes on to say, but it's just one of an extensive series with another being the Big Book of Beautiful Biscuits. Originally based on a recipe in TBBOBB, these chocolate chip cookies. Oh, it's a recipe. Yes.

It was a recipe hidden in a fact. That's good. Here it is. Get your pens at the ready if you want to have this original chocolate chip cookie recipe. I'm actually in the kitchen right now with every possible ingredient available. The oven is hot. The border is boiled. I can do anything you like.

All right, Dave. First, 250 grams of butter. Oh, butter. Fuck, I forgot butter. What did that Nuttle X all do? Okay, all right. 250 grams of Nuttle X. One cup of butter. Oh, butter. Fuck, I forgot butter. What did that Nuttle X all do? Okay, all right. 250 grams of Nuttle X. One cup of sugar.

Okay. One cup of dark brown sugar. Oh, I love this one. They're doubling up on sugar. Yum. Two of the first three ingredients were sugar. More butter. Caster sugar.

One teaspoon vanilla extract. Okay. Two eggs. It doesn't specify which. One teaspoon vanilla extract. Okay. Two eggs. It doesn't specify which. I assume ostrich. Three and a half cups self-raising flour. One teaspoon salt. And 250 grams of choc chips.

It's going to make a fair few bickies. Stephen says, I go for a mix of milk duck and white chips. Yeah, yum. Cream together butter, sugars and vanilla. Mix in lightly, beaten egg. Yum. Mix in sifted flour and salt. Yeah.

Add chocolate chips. Shake into small balls. Shake. Shape into small balls. Oh, right. Okay. Yep, I'm doing that because I was shaking my mix and it's gone everywhere. Sorry.

I have to start again. No, both steps were valid. Shake, then shape. Okay. Yep, I'm doing that because I was shaking my mix and it's gone everywhere. Sorry. I have to start again. No, both steps are valid. Shake, then shape. Okay. All right. Sorry. I'm shaping. Put the balls on a lined baking tray.

Bake at 180 degrees Celsius for 10 to 12 minutes. Apologies to people who use Fahrenheit. Figure it out. It's Google. There is Google. Good point. 180 degrees Celsius for 10 to 12 minutes. Don't overcook because you want them slightly chewy.

Yeah, I love a chewy cookie. Thank you so much for that recipe, Stephen Edmonds. And here are the biscuits I prepared earlier. Dave, they're terrible. What do you think? You don't like them? They sound very plasticky. Hold on.

Just get them out of the plastic packet. I put them in. Hang on. Wow, that's delicious. Dave, I can't believe you're eating dog biscuits just for a bit. So embarrassing, Dave. They can't even see that you're eating dog biscuits. Well, I'm going in for more.

Jess, not you too. I'm going to try a dog biscuit. If I don't like it, are you going to eat it? Okay. Great. This is going to be awful for some people. Why? I think some people hate hearing people eat. I think you just say that when you don't like it well i'm some people

what do you think jesse like this cookie for dogs it's okay thank you steven sorry steven the next one comes from daniel headley well he couldn't cook it for you i'm sure his were better. Daniel Headley, a.k.a. Just Call Me Daniel. This is too hard. And Daniel has given us a quote, writing, Mr., you just assured me that I could speak. Look, I'm under what?

I wish I knew from the top where this was going. Gentlemen, this is Democracy Manifest. Have a look at that headlock here. See that chap over there? Hey, get your head off my penis. This is the bloke who got me in the penis, people. Why did you do this to me? For what reason?

What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal? Oh, that's a nice headlock, sir. Oh, sir oh ah yes i see you know your judo well good one and you sir are you waiting to receive my limp penis how dare get your hands off me ta-ta and farewell my favorite bit is he's lowered into a car. Ta-ta and farewell. You may as well have said and seen. That is the best quote you've ever read out. Daniel Headley, fantastic work. Doesn't attribute it to anyone,

so I'm not sure where that quote comes from. Oh, was that not his original work? Maybe it was. It must just be because he hasn't attributed it anywhere. I assume that was Daniel Headley's original quote. Thank you, Daniel. Oh, that was yet again exhilarating. You did it.

That was a great performance. Honestly, that was great. The next one comes from, and for my audition today, I'm going to. I'll be reading out from the script of the succulent Chinese meal, man. I will need someone to receive my limp penis. Is it okay to have a scene partner? The next one comes from- Someone says too eagerly.

I will receive your limp penis. And all we have to say is we haven't assured you of anything. And then you're under arrest. I'm under what? I'm under what? I'm under what? Love it when an H sneaks out ahead. I'm under what?

Next one comes from Logan Husky, a.k.a. DJ Mixmaster, brackets, not Mike. That's a question from Logan. Logan Husky, he comes up a bit. He's a regular contributor to somewhere. I just know the name well. It's a great name. I love the name. I mean, I love all the names of our patrons, of course.

Logan writes, hi, guys. I was wondering what are some of your all-time surefire, never-fail pump-up songs, the kind that are just a real shot of coffee to the soul and get you going for the day? Dave, no need to respond here. We already know yours is the German national anthem. Oh, yes.

I can hear it in my head right now. I'm listening to it to get pumped up internally. How does it go? I imagine one of the AFL songs is based on it, though. I actually have no idea how it goes. I know the French one because that's, is that Geelong's theme is to the French anthem? I say, yeah.

We are Geelong, the greatest team of all. We are Geelong, we're always on the ball. We play the game as it should be played. Is that yours, Matt? That is a good, pretty, is that, I mean, I might be singing out of tune, but is that vaguely the tune of the French national anthem? I can't think of anyone. Why don't you ask the strangest things to Dave?

Sometimes he doesn't. L'enfant de la patrie. That's how it starts. Dave's always over there. Brisbane Lions is the French one, so that's... Dave's always over there. How's the Lions one go? You start the French one and I can...

I can't think of the tune. Anyway, what's the answer to the question? What's your pump-up song? Oh, good question. I reckon maybe I love Pennywise's Broken. Mm-hmm.

Sorry, is the song broken? We've only got three seconds in. I've been used. I've been bruised. I've been broken. And my back's up against the wall. And my will to survive can be stolen. Dave, take it from me.

To survive can be stolen. Dave, take it from me. My one is, well, I'll admit that we, a few weeks ago, did the bank robber. What was his name? Hollywood Bandit. Yes. And we laughed at the time that he would listen to Highway

to the Danger Zone whilst putting on his makeup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny. And I did a post about it that week on Instagram and I thought, you know, I'm going to listen to it while I'm doing the dishes. I was rocking out. It's a true pump-up classic. It's great.

I also love from Scarface, Push It To The Limit. Do you know that song? Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know if I do know that one. That's good. Can I throw in a song by the OCs, The Dream. That's a banger.

Okay. Also, it's another like 80s movie song. I've never seen the movie, but it's called I also think Motley Crue, Kickstart My Heart is also a great yeah i'm just looking at my my spotify and i think most recently the stuff that has that i've been

listening to a lot has been like apple by wongo which is very fun um wongo wongo fantastic records you play by low 99 i also like florence and the machine free that's got a good pump up i reckon that is like uh it's the closest i felt to the first time i heard the other big florence and the machine song whose name now escapes me the The old one. The one from fucking Eat, Pray, Love. Maybe a body part's involved or something. You've got the love? You've got the love. Love heart. The heart is a body part.

There it is. It's an Elmo's Fire Man in motion is what I was thinking of. Oh, okay. Yeah, yep. I also think I'm looking at classic pump-up songs on Spotify. There's a playlist here. One of them is Pretty Fly for a White Guy. Is that Pump pump you are?

And they played Woodstock 99. I think the only one they got right is Wannabe by the Spice Girls. That pumps me out. That's a classic. Absolutely. Someone I didn't mention, Offspring. Is it Dexter or Noodles? Which one's the one with the blonde hair?

Noodles is the guitarist. Dexter's the singer with the blonde hair. Dexter, yeah, he's very unconvincing. I think it's – anyway, there were these sort of blow-up dummies that they had made to look like the Backstreet Boys and then he sort of beat them down with a baseball bat and went – and it was like one of the lamest attempts I've seen at someone trying to be badass.

Yeah, badass. But anyway, which it feels mean. Sorry, Dexter, if you're listening. Hi, Dexter. I thought you were the coolest thing in the world in the 90s growing up. So it is the biggest thing in the 90s? I hear it. We are the pride of Brisbane town.

We wear maroon. We will always fight for victory. Like Fitzroy and Bezalveld. That's the French one. March on. March on. But he's answered his question here. Love that.

Saying, someone would be sabotaged by the Beastie Boys. That's a good one. All my life by the Foo Fighters and the drop by Regurgitator. Good choices. Thank you for continuing to produce the show week in and week out for almost seven years and that is not only thoroughly entertaining but genuinely genuinely interesting making my nights driving uber so much more bearable p.s sorry about the german joke dave i couldn't resist.

Well, thank you so much. And finally, this one comes from Ben Johnson, MK Don's own. Is that where the MK Dons are from? And Ben is giving himself the title. Okay, it's a hyperlink to a map let's see where this takes us this is highly irregular we're going on a quest here uh the ben johnson pub it took me to that's your title oh where is it is the ben johnson pub outside of oxford in uh in england okay there you go Out of Oxford in England. Okay.

There you go. Wish I had a pub. Maybe you do. Get a pub then. Okay. Ben has given us this quote. Get your hands. No.

Imagine. Some people say the glass is half empty or half full, but that's irrelevant because I'm having another drink. That is a Sean Locke. Rest in peace. Love a bit of Sean Locke work. Love Sean Locke. Very funny.

So good. It feels like a real universally loved comedian. There aren't many of those. No. Me, I'm very divisive. Oh, okay. I thought we were starting lists. You, Sean Locke.

Me, no. Can't think of any others. Billy Connolly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, just Jess, Billy Connolly and Sean Locke. Big three. Then the next thing we like to do is thank a few of our other great supporters.

Jess, you normally come up with a bit of a game based on the topic at hand. I was thinking the headliner of their music festival. Which new metal band band it can be anyone anyone even out geez that's a lot yeah we're essentially okay here's the thing we're putting together a festival with these nine names oh great maybe each of them is sort of gets to mc that part of the day so they'll introduce they get to introduce the brand yep okay well if i can kick us off. Please.

I'd love to thank from Chicago, Illinois in the United States, it's Andrew Swibes. Andrew Swibes. Andrew Swibes. Andrew Swibes. Tribe Called Quest. Oh, introducing a tribe called Quest. Yes.

And he makes a little joke. He says,rew swipes introducing a tribes called quest and he goes sorry just trying to i'm nervous up here i've never talked to in front of 250 000 people but people are still applauding like they're loving it yeah we're getting into it can i kick it yes you can andrew it goes really well uh and it's a fantastic selection there from andrew um and i hope uh i hope it's everything you want. They're opening the festival for us. That's great. That's huge.

It's a big open. We're not having any duds. It's called the No Duds Festival. It's all studs. No duds allowed. No duds. Yeah. Not a bad name, actually. Thank you.

All studs, no duds. Thank you so much, Swabzy. I hope you don't mind me calling you that. That's what you should be calling your UK tour. Swabsie? No. All studs. All studs, no duds.

Yeah. I'm the dud, you're the studs. The tour is starting this week. Should we- Should we rename it? Rename it. I think it'll be worth it. What about all studs in brackets apart from one?

You choose. Choose the dud. You choose the dud. You got the dud choose. Choose the dad. You choose the dad. You got the dad. You got the dad. Set up yourself, Poindexter. I'd also love to thank from Sacramento in California, United States, Morgan.

Good Morgan. Good Morgan to Morgan who is introducing the prodigy. Yeah. Is this like a mythical festival? We can have everyone. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're still going, but what was their front man? Keith Flint sadly died.

Yeah. Another band that I was very big into in the 90s. Very influential in my childhood. Another band that I would not have been surprised to see on that lineup. Yeah. Fatboy Slim was on there. Wow. Chemical Brothers.

So I reckon rounding out those three would be the prodigy the biggest three big beat bands yeah um but morgan yeah brought them along busting beats from those sort of bands yeah that's right and imagine if they were back with another one of those it's crazy uh morgan fantastic selection and finally from me, I'd love to thank from Tulare Also in California In the United States, it's Candice Harrison Savage Garden The fourth The fourth of the big four

Wow, pretty huge Pretty huge I believe in Candice Harrison Candice Harrison And other songs Yeah, what's that? I like that one that went. Chicka-chicka-chicka. Yeah.

Is that the same one? Is that? Sorry. I get confused between Korn and the vocal work of Darren Hayes. It happens a lot. Dave, do you want to thank some people? There was a photo I posted on our social medias recently and someone said, oh, hello, Darren Hayes.

About Dave. About me. Yeah. I'll take that. A 90s superstar. Gorgeous. Yeah. That's a hot man. That's a hot man. Thanks very much. And so is Darren Hayes. Stop flirting with Dave. I won't. We're at work. Thank you so much.

I won't. Next up, I'd like to thank from New York, New York, James Lee, who's introducing Missy Elliott. Oh. Her neck, her back, et cetera. Wow. Exciting. Exciting.

There's two ways you can go when you start with Missy. Yeah. There's at least you can go when you start with Missy. Yeah. There's at least two. Uh-huh. And you went one of those ways. Yeah. And I think you've done a fantastic effort. Jeez, this festival is going to sell out too quickly.

Too quickly, yeah. That'd be my only concern about it. Well, that's another thing one of the organizers said was, we can't vet every person who buys a ticket. Okay. Like saying, you you know again saying it's it's just a bunch of individuals making bad choices the fact that they all formed a mob when they were just like disparate groups of people means that probably no environmental um like just said they probably didn't need to look into any of their sort of set up issues.

Couldn't possibly have been them. Hey, I've now realized why Jess wanted me to go next. I would like to do a big shout out now to a patron supporter from Iceland, the most beautiful country I've ever visited. Well, that makes sense. That's why Jess wanted you to thank them because it's one of your favorite countries. This is from Ray Kianispa, which I'm looking up on the map. It's very close to Reykjavik, the capital city that I have been to.

I love that we've got a bunch of Icelandic listeners. Yeah, it's really cool. My dream would be if we could do a show there. Oh, my God. If you're there and you can spread the word, if we could sell like between 50 and 100 tickets, that would be worth it for me. I will come and do a show in Iceland. Please spread the word.

And a big shout out to, because they are doing the work already, Aspor Beldason. I'm so sorry if that's wrong, but Aspor Beldason from Reckonspire, Iceland. Oh, fantastic. Do we go with an Icelandic act? Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. He's go with an Icelandic act? Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. You've got the big three, right?

Bjork, Sigur Rós. And who's the other one I'm thinking of? The more recent, more Triple J's-y one from recent years. Oh, you flow. No, it's not, is it? It's like a, what are they called? Monsters and- Of Monsters and Men. Of Monsters and Men.

Of Monsters and Men. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they're Icelandic. Yes. I'm saying that based on Dave's Google search. Okay. Oh, they have come up. I was thinking about this band that did that song that they performed at Eurovision.

That was awesome. Let's go with Monsters and Men. They're great. Of Monsters and Men. Fantastic. So great to have them on the line-up, being introduced by none other than Aspor Belderson. Thank you so much. Nailed that.

So good. And I would also like to thank now from Location Unknown. Oh, exciting. Can only imagine it's either Iceland or deep within the fortress of the moles. And that is... We haven't ruled out the two being the same place yet. That's right. The entrance to the lair has got to be somewhere. That's right. The entrance to the lair has got to be somewhere.

That's right. The lair is somewhere. And this is all in capital letters and one word, Stimpaxen. Big shout out to Stimpaxen. Stimpaxen. What about Anderson Pack? Oh, cool. That's good.

Multi-instrumentalist, multi-talented, multi-banded. Multi-Grammy Award winning. Just a great act on any festival lineup. I imagine when you get Anderson.Paak on a lineup, you'll find him popping up playing drums for Monsters and Men. I'd actually be pretty surprised to see that happen, but maybe for one of the other acts. Can't stop him.

May I thank some people also? Please do. I would love to thank, from Newcastle, New South Wales, Jess Evans. See, Dave, I get tricky names too. Home of the Star Hotel that Cold Chisel famously sang about, which is interesting because Cold chisel is playing and it being introduced by jess evans amazing that's a good get that's a good get absolutely amazing uh original lineup all members living and dead will be there wow watch out as in their comeback

from the dead or it's just their corpses i think it's i think it may be this is this special is happening on a different plane. Okay, great. That's good then. I would also love to thank from Denver, Colorado, Alan Shurman. How about Cher? Oh, I do believe.

The organiser of Woodstock 99. Doing a duet with the singer Cher. Because a few times you did say Cher and I was like, Cher was the... Oh, hang on a second. Yeah, I thought the same. John Cher. John Cher duet with the singer Cher, because a few times you did say Cher and I was like, Cher was the- Oh, hang on a second. Yeah, I thought the same. John Cher. John Cher dueting with Cher Rillen. Yes.

Whatever her name is. The only thing is John Cher will not perform outside the balcony of the Carlton Ritz. Which is luckily where this festival is occurring. Yeah, that's right. This one's actually at the Ritz. What is the Carlton Ritz anyway? I don't know.

I always assumed that would be here in Melbourne. Because of Carlton? Yeah. But that's just the name of a thing. It's just a chain of- Of, like, nice places. Yeah. Of, like, nice places.

Nice places. They're pretty nice. Their headquarter is at Chevy Chase Manor in Chevy Chase, Maryland, in the United States. Okay. Is his name a joke on a location? Let's not get stuck in a Wikipedia wormhole. Okay, we've got one more name.

Let's finish this and then let's definitely dive into that because I'm desperate to know. Okay, yes. Finally, I would love to thank, also from deep within the Fortress of the Moles, Duke Triceratops. Whoa. Confidence Man. Is that the coolest name ever? Yes, it is.

And Duke's introducing Confidence Man. That's right. Okay. You're not calling- I thought you were calling him out. No, no, no. He's a con man. I'm saying he's introducing Confidence Man.

Oh, yes. I remember, were you there the year they played at Meredith? No. And the festival was abuzz with their performance. I saw them live only a couple of months ago, and it was one of the most fun live gigs I've ever been to. It was so good. They're crazy.

It's great. And I can only imagine being introduced by Duke Triceratops takes their performance to the next level. Yeah, it just feels fitting. So there you go. Thank you so much to Duke, Alan, Jess, Stimpaxson, Aspaw, James, Candice, Morgan, and Andrew, or Swabsy as I like to call him. The last thing we like to do, and in some ways need to do, because we said we would.

Why am I saying it like that? The last thing we need to do is induct some people into the Triptych Club. Dave, what is the Triptych Club again? These are people that have been on the shout-out level or above for three consecutive years, which we really appreciate. It's obviously been a while since we've shouted them out the first time. And to thank them for their years of support, we induct them into a Hall of Fame-style clubhouse

slash bar slash imaginary theatre of the mind, place that we hang out forever. Forever and ever. I can't leave. There's drinks on tap. There's previous guests. Well, not this week actually, Dave, because I am in charge of food and drinks.

Yes. And on theme, we don't have any. I have a few. That's good. I've got a few of those like fire festival kind of sandwiches. Yeah. I've got three of them. So, first in best dress.

Even those look fancy these days with their iceberg lettuce. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And their one bit of shit cheese. And I do have about 20 small bottles of water. So, I'll be selling those for about $10,000 each. Wow. Great. Normally, drinks and food and everything are complimentary, but

not this week. Okay. Well, Dave, you ready? There's a few to read out. And we've also got a band. Oh, we've got the band. Who's playing the album? We've got Korn, but it's just the singer, Jonathan Davies, or Davis, singing acapella for an hour.

Oh. I think this is going to suck. So, obviously it's a tribute to the 99 Woodstock. We always theme it. Yes, that's right. So, sit back and enjoy the ma-ma-ma. I found him to be very, he was interviewed on the doco series and he was very

likeable. He was sort of like, he was like, he just had the best time in their performance and he just seemed very sweet. Good for him. That's nice. All right. Are we ready?

Yep. I'd love to induct. So I'm standing at the door, of course. I've got the clipboard ready. I've just lifted up the velvet rope. If your name gets called out, please make your way forward. Firstly, from Berlin in Deutschland, it's Chakri Francis Rove. Chakri.

Chakri to the heart. Oh, that's good stuff. Chakri to the heart. Yes, Dave, nailed it. I'd also love to thank from Adir in Victoria here in Australia. Oh, Adir here. Tom Murray. Tom Murray. Tom, it's in a hurry into my heart. Oh, I do here. Tom Murray. Tom Murray.

Tom, it's in a hurry. Into my heart. Yes. Are they all hot? Okay. From Billson in Texas in the United States, it's Jeremy Klein. Klein, he's been in line. He's done his time.

And now get into the club, my friend. And into your heart. Yes, into my heart. From Menominee in Wisconsin in the United States, it's Mindbender. I can only say Menominee, Mindbender. Menominee, Mindbender. Menominee, Mindbender. Mindbender, Mindbender, Mindbender.

Mindbender get in the club and my heart. We should also get the Muppets to play as well someday. We got nothing from him for that. No, that was pretty good. We didn't rehearse. He didn't even glance up at us. But I mean, I did that and then you did it again.

I gave you as much as you gave me. I said, monominee Wisconsin, United States. Don't take credit for us. You did not. You just sounded it out and then I took it to the next level with the help of my friend Jess Perkins. Okay. From Sheffield in England, I'd love to welcome in Hannah Whelan.

Oh, how we feeling, Hannah Whelan? From Brisbane in Queensland, Australia, I'd love to welcome in Jack Taylor. Jack Taylor. He ain't no failure. Nuh-uh. He's a succeeder. From Dawson Creek in British Columbia in Canada, it's Cassie Haywood. How are you?

How are you doing? Cassie Haywood. Hello, my name is Cassie Haywood. Getting sassy with Cassie. And you didn't even practice that. I'd love to thank from Oroki in Auckland, New Zealand, Benjamin Blackhall. More like Orofly with Benjamin Blackhall. From Valdez in North Carolina in the United States, I'd love to thank Ethan Christian. Yes, Valdez. Oh, yes, thank Ethan Christian. Yes, Valdez.

Oh, yes, please. Yes, please, Valdez. That's good. Ethan, I hope you're enjoying the blue fire trucks from Little Egg Harbor in New Jersey in the United States. It's Brittany. Brittany. Brittany.

I ain't shitney when I say you're a legend. I ain't shitney, Brittany. From Cape Town in South Africa, I'd love to welcome in Ryan. Ryan. I'm flying with this guy. From Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, right there on the Golden Mile in the United States, it's Crystal Cobbett. Crystal Cobbett ain't a hobbit.

She ain't. But I still love you anyway. I usually love hobbits. I'm lonely. And finally, from Kennesaw in Georgia in the United States, it's Elizabeth Brown. We're going to Browntown with Elizabeth up top. Go for a high five.

Welcome in Elizabeth, Crystal, Brian, Brittany, Ethan, Benjamin, Cassie, Jack, Hannah, Mindbender, Jeremy, Tom, and Shockery. Welcome into the club. Make yourselves at home. Yes. Hang around. Get ready for a bit of acapella Jonathan Davis. Rub it.

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