Do Go On - 369 - The Night Witches

Episode Date: November 16, 2022

The Night Witches were an all-female squadron of badass bomber pilots who the Nazis were shit-scared of! Tune in for the story!This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 3:36 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report). Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodLive show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/  Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas Do Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.history.com/news/meet-the-night-witches-the-daring-female-pilots-who-bombed-nazis-by-nighthttps://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/06/night-witches-wwii-female-pilotshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/03/01/fierce-feared-female-wwii-pilots-known-night-witches/https://www.wrightmuseum.org/2020/10/01/the-soviet-night-witches/http://thefemalesoldier.com/blog/marina-raskovahttps://warfarehistorynetwork.com/the-red-air-force-night-witches-flight-of-the-rodina/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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My name is Dev Warnocki and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello Matthew. Hey Jess, how nice is it to be alive? I'm excited. My tone was like we're fighting, you know, we're a divorced couple. Oh, hello, Matthew. Oh, that says a lot about me. I just took it at your word.

You were just greeting me. Yeah. Well, tell Jess, Matt, to go fuck herself. David, you look unwell. Thank you. I don't feel very good. Can I go home? No. Thank you. I don't feel very good. Can I go home? No.

Damn it. Hey, you guys, let's be a little more friendly to each other. This is the most friendly and blissful time of the year. You're right. This is Blovember. I love Blovember. The arse end of Blocktober. And that's the good bit. Yeah.

What are you saying? You're saying that like you're confused? The arse, of course,'s the good bit. Yeah. What are you saying? You're saying that like you're confused? The arse, of course, is the good bit. Yeah. It's the best bit of anything. You know, if you're having a roast, people want the rump. Oh, yeah. Can I please have the arse?

Anyone else? Anyone else? I'm going to take the arse end here. Arse end of the pig. That's all mine. Okay. Thank you very much. Now, for people who don't know what Blovember is or what Blocktober is, Matt, what are we doing here?

Well, it all started a few years ago where we wanted to do a month of the biggest blockbusterist topics of the year. These are the topics that were suggested by the most people. We put them all into a massive poll, and then everyone got to vote uh all listeners and we had thousands of votes and now we're counting down the top nine for 2022 and we are up to the third most voted for topic in history history of 2022 on this show so we're on the podium now that's right we've already had some epic big topics but i can only imagine what is going to be the third most voted for for 2022. Bronze medal. People's block trees are starting to wilt.

We're getting to the end of the run here. That's right. Tofa Grace is feeling tired. He's not allowed to sleep during Block Tofa Grace period. Some people have started to take down their block decorations. Yeah, too early. Too early. Too early. Come here. Put them. Yeah, too early. Too early. Too early.

Come here. Put them back up, you dogs. How weird. It'd be like taking down the Christmas wreath mid-December. Yeah. Are you losing your minds? That would be absolute mayhem. Get your block trees back up.

Are you a Grinch? Yeah. Block Grinch? Are you a Blinch? Blinch. You bloody blinch. But just more broadly than just Block Jess, how does this show do go on work? Well, one of the three of us, Matt, Dave, and me, Jess,

we take it in turns researching a topic usually suggested by our listeners. We bring it back to the other two. We tell them all about it. We learn. We laugh. We live, we Yolumba. And it is Matt's turn this week to tell us a little ditty. Nobody lets me talk this long. Five, six, seven, eight.

Is Yolumba the goon company? Yeah. The slogan was like live, laugh, Yalumba. Oh, that's awful or awesome. I'm not sure. And we usually start with a question. Matt, do you have a question? I do have a question.

My question is what is the spookiest cleaning implement? Spookiest? Yeah. Vacuum. Oh, yeah. Robot vacuum. Dogs hate them. Oh, that's true Oh, yeah. A robot vacuum. Dogs hate them. Oh, that's true.

My dog actually loves a vacuum. Really? Yeah, he gets really excited when I get the vacuum out. It's very cute. He puts peanut butter on the vacuum. And what else? It's not that. What else do you think it might be?

A feather duster. You're getting close. Broom. Yes, correct. What? Spooky. Brooms are spooky. You don't think brooms are spooky?

Who rides on a broom? Witches. And that's the topic this week, the night witches. Oh. If witches weren't spooky enough for you. Yeah. We're taking them at nine. Oh, yeah, a witch down the shop doing a grocery shopping,

whatever, not spooky. Yeah, who cares? What if she's getting basil? Glinda's a day witch. Yeah, do your life. Do your life. Who's the green witch? Glinda and...

The wicked one. Yeah. She's a night witch. It's weird to see her out in the day. Sort of like an owl. Anyway, this... This is going to drive me insane. Like an Esmeralda type thing.

No, it's... I've seen wicked three times. Fuck. Have you really? Is that too many times? So on average, the three of us have seen Wicked once each. Thank you. Great.

I don't have to say it now. This topic, while you're looking that up, Jess, was suggested by Katie in the USA, Duncan Moran from Edinburgh in Scotland, Luke Parker from London, Carl Stevens from Hailsham in the UK. Alphaba. Alphaba.

Sorry for interrupting you. I could have waited. That's a common name, Alphaba. Alphaba. Sorry if we dropped you. I could have waited. That was a common name, Alphaba. Alphaba. That's bad writing. Sorry. This topic was also suggested by Alphaba from the West. No offence. Luke Park from London.

Carl Stevens from Hailsham, UK. Benjamin W. Hunt from Orville, Ohio. God's country. Jamie Alcantara from London. Marcus Brisman from Gothenburg in Sweden. Jamie Alcantara from London, Marcus Brisman from Gothenburg in Sweden, Kayla Hodkiewicz from Toms River in New Jersey in the US, McKenna Middlebrook from Schenectady, New York, James Deeney from Dublin, Ross Smith from Glen Gormley in Northern Ireland, Claire Norris from West Sacramento in California, Amanda Lysent-Clayton from Kensington, Melbourne, Australia. She was the last one. I should have said an and before her.

Wow. McKenna Middlebrook's come up a couple of times in block. I'm sure of it. I feel like McKenna just, he like suggests topics that get done on the regular. Yeah. Great suggester. Well done. He also just has a very memorable name.

McKenna Middlebrook. McKenna Middlebrook. God, that is good. Great name. There was varying locations there too. Across the world. Love that. that that's right and did you catch where mckenna's from where shenickity oh yes shenickity shenickity which is can't be a real place but anyway let us begin this uh let's kick it off with a few words from eric grundhauser writing for vanity fair in the nazi occupied soviet union german soldiers had a very real fear of witches namely the night witches an all-female squadron of bomber pilots who ran

thousands of daring bomber raids with little more than wooden planes and the cover of night and broomsticks i assume yeah well are you familiar with the night witches not at all i didn't know about them at all either what so they're yeah they're kind of a quite a i mean until recent years it seems like they're getting written about more now but um for a long time that was sort of just not really spoken about for some reason sort of forgotten the history a little bit wow on june the 22nd 1941 nearly two years after world war II began, Nazi Germany launched Operation Barbarossa. Are you familiar with Operation Barbarossa? Yes, I am.

This is when they decided to take on the Soviets. That's right. They went on an all-out campaign. Which I think not end well for them. Okay, interesting. All right, it's on take. Okay, so you don't think the Nazis won? Let's find take. Okay, so you don't think the Nazis won? Let's find out.

Okay. According to Britannica, for the campaign against the Soviet Union, the Germans allotted almost 150 divisions containing a total of about 3 million men. This is just for one campaign. They're already fighting a war on other fronts. Yeah, and they're like, let's just take 3 million people away from there and we'll march into Russia at the beginning of winter.

Yeah, so the timing was slightly delayed and unfortunately it ended up, the winter came a little early, so things didn't go great for Hitler. It was a shame. Unfortunately. It was due a bit of luck. Fuck. In total, the Barbarossa force had about 3,000 tanks, 7,000 artillery pieces, and 2,500 aircraft. It was, in effect, the largest and most powerful invasion force in human history.

The invasion along an 1,800-mile or 2,900-kilometer front took the Soviet leadership completely by surprise and caught the Red Army in an unprepared and partially demobilized state. I should say, by the way, I was only joking there about Hitler. I think he was a real bitch. You should say that, yeah. He was a dog. A dog bitch.

He was like, I don't want to talk in too strong of terms, but he was a bit of a dickhead. Are you going to beep some of those words? I probably should. I'm feeling a little PO'd Are you going to beep some of those words? I probably should. I'm feeling a little PO'd, just thinking back. What does that mean? Pissed off. Don't make me talk like this.

Another whisper beep that? Another few beeps, yeah. Beep, beep. Beep, beep, beep. But like Dave says, it didn't end well for him, Jess. I know you're not a big history buff. No, I don't get it. But he ended up shooting himself in the face.

Okay. On purpose. It wasn't an accident. A horrible mistake. He'd fallen over. Which I think would have been way better. I wish that happened a few, you know, maybe 10, 20 years earlier. That would have been sick, actually.

You never know. That might have happened to some other Hitler. In a parallel universe. That they accidentally shot themselves in the face before they became a despot or whatever he was. Is that the right word? I don't know. Dictator.

Yeah, but that wouldn't have been funny for the people because they wouldn't know. They wouldn't know, exactly. They'd be like, oh, what a horrible tragedy. It's like what people always talk about with going back to kill baby Hitler. When you go back, to everyone else, it just looks like you're killing a baby. K'd be like, oh, what a horrible tragedy. It's like what people always talk about with going back to kill baby Hitler. When you go back, to everyone else, it just looks like you're killing a baby. Killing a baby, yeah.

That's not cool. No. Not cool to kill baby Hitler? No. Oh, no, babies. Right. Not cool to kill babies. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Leave babies alone. Gone to a weird place early. So, yeah. So, huge contingent marches into or and flies and you know and tanks tanks tanking horses uh gallops okay submarining yeah cross land in short the soviets were under the pump and this is the backdrop the soviet leadership faced when the night witches were born according to brin holland writing for history.com using female bombardiers wasn't a first choice

while women had been previously barred from combat the pressure of an encroaching enemy gave soviet leaders a reason to rethink the policy it's either women or toddlers. Oh, gosh. Should we toss a coin? We're out of toddlers. Okay. Bombardier is a fun word, isn't it? I love Bombardier. That's right up there. Pompadour, Bombardier. These are some of the creme de la creme of words.

Oh, these words. A few months after Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union began, the Germans were pressing on Moscow. So they were making pretty quick work of it early. Leningrad was also under siege and the Red Army was struggling. The Soviets were desperate. The squadron was the brainchild of Marina Raskova, known as the Soviet Amelia Earhart. Famous not only as the first female navigator in the Soviet Air Force, but also for her many long-distance flight records.

She was a badass. Awesome. So who was Raskova? Well, according to thefemalesoldier.com, Marina Raskova was a Soviet pilot, navigator, and commander. Born in 1912 to a middle-class Russian family, Raskova initially had aspirations of becoming a musician, but eventually abandoned the idea to study chemistry. While working in a dye factory as a chemist, she met Sergei Raskov, an engineer who she married and had a daughter with. I think this was like when she was like 18 or something. She changed careers in 1931, I think she's like 1920, when she joined the Aerodynamic Navigation Lab of the Soviet Air Force as a draftswoman. In 1920 when she joined the aerodynamic navigation lab of the Soviet Air Force as a draftswoman in 1933 she became the first female navigator in the Air Force

and the following year became the first woman to teach at the Zugovsky Air Academy in 1935 she divorced from her husband and focused on her flying career she's leaving you for a plane yeah she became a famous pilot as well as a navigator setting a number of long distance records including the famous flight of the radina i just feels like whoa remember uh earlier in block i told the story of the dull air race yeah this is an american race that happened you know in her lifetime her lifetime, only a few years before she started flying. But in that race, the only woman involved went along basically as a mascot. And that was seen as being, like, very progressive.

Yeah. But over in Russia, women are pilots and flying and teaching flying. Honestly, my first thought when I was like, okay, she's married, but she's had a career change because in that sort of time you didn't work if you got married yeah i'm like she's working and she's like she's a badass like what what she's doing is really cool and it just feels like yeah the 30s in russia or the soviet i don't know i found a lot of this surprising but you know yeah yeah sometimes think of uh of uh progression as

linear but it doesn't necessarily get people gain and lose rights over time absolutely yeah uh the article uh so yeah mentioned there the flight of the rodina which i'll talk about now i was a record-breaking non-stop airplane flight covering 6,000 kilometers from Moscow to Komsomolsk in a twin-engine ANT-37 named Rodina. That's where it got its name. I know Dave's thinking no relation, but there is a relation here. Not a coincidence. The crew was three Russian women, Raskova, as well as Polina Ossipenko and Valentina Grizza-Dobova. According to George Tippin-Wilson, writing for the Warfare History Network,

Raskin was the cruise navigator, not a licensed pilot at the time. As the Rodina was nearing the end of its fuel supply, the women began to jettison the plane's furnishing to coax extra miles from the engine and make certain they were setting a new distance record. Whoa. What are they throwing out? Couches. Chairs, couches, the bar fridge, the wine fridge.

We're not going to need this bath. The full set of weights. Yeah. Quite heavy. Spare plane. Spare plane. Ditch that. Get it out.

We don't need it. They then flew into a blinding snowstorm. Since they had thrown everything movable overboard, Raskova, deeming herself as the most expendable, donned a parachute and exited the plane in a brave and selfless move to ensure the record was set. No way. In a snowstorm.

In a snowstorm. She's like, well, we'll get a few extra miles if I jump out. You don't need me. I'm just a navigator. There's two of you. You got this. I'll just jump out here wherever this is. It's been an honour.

Hooray. She wandered around the wilderness for several days before finding the plane and her comrades. According to thefemalesoldier.com, she survived with no water and almost no food for 10 days before she found her way to the landing site and reunited with her team. 10 days? Isn't her way to the landing site and reunited with her team 10 days isn't that hectic what all three women were decorated with the hero of the soviet union award the first women to ever receive it uh it's like one of the very top honors and you know we're

talking this is the 1930s wow the plane was in a si Siberian swamp on the Manchurian border after their 26 hour and 29 minute flight ended in a crash landing in the area. So it was, you know, a similar kind of time to that Dole air race. And like the lone wolf that crashed into a swamp. Yeah, that's right. That's right. They got a little bit further first. His swamp was next to the runway. Theirs was 6,000 miles away. Yeah, and obviously both flights were tough conditions, one over an ocean that had never been or rarely been crossed. But this one through snowstorms.

I mean, he didn't get to the ocean. He crashed into the field next to the runway. Yeah, fair call. Look, I want to give him a chop out. The lone wolf. Yeah, exactly. His flight was also perilous if he'd made it. Yeah, that's true.

If he'd taken off, it would have been scary. Similar length time to the ones who did make it, I should say. Yeah, to the ones who did make it. Amazing achievement. But the guy who crashed twice, not so good. According to Wilson, by the following week, Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin had added his congratulations to those of the world. He noted that the 4,036-mile non-stop flight was longer than Charles Lindbergh's transatlantic flight and far exceeded any non-stop aerial journey made by women at that point.

and far exceeded any non-stop aerial journey made by women at that point. Wilson continues, In Moscow later that month, Lazar M. Kaganovich, the Commissar of Heavy Industry, faded the trio at a glittering reception. Apparently inspired by the war clouds gathering over Europe, Commissar Kaganovich remarked that if the Soviet Union is attacked, quote, we have flyers who can chase the enemy back to his own territory, referencing the three heroes here. One wonders if the commissar

realized just how prophetic his words would turn out to be. The next day at another reception for the three, Stalin appeared to put a stop to any more record-breaking quests. While he was stoked with the record-breaking flight, he was saddened by the recent death of another aviator on a different record attempt from the last couple of weeks, saying, the government, probably saying this in Russian. Okay, but tell it to us in English because my Russian is a little rusty. Okay, rusky. The government will be extremely severe henceforth

toward permitting record-setting flights. The lives of the pilots are more precious to us than any records, no matter how great or renowned they may be. So he's basically going, no more of this. No life is worth it. Ah, Raskovar must have been like, but I didn't. I jumped out into a snowstorm. I disagree.

I'd say keep chasing those titles. Yeah. Fuck your life. But that was, she was like, all right, you know, we won't do that anymore. Fair enough. But is the plan there like, we don't want you to do it in case you die,

but if you do do it, you will be punished with death. Yeah, I think that's a fair system. Yeah. By this time, Raskova was already known throughout Russia for her heroic flying exploits. And when war broke out the women of the soviet union were flooding her letterbox putting themselves forward to join the war effort they were looking for her to help put their names forward they'd sort of been

sidelined they're like you know stalin yeah come on get in easy yeah according to the female soldier while there were no formal restrictions on Soviet women in the military, many found their applications were denied or mysteriously delayed. Back to Holland. Seeing an opportunity, Raskova petitioned Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin to let her form an all-female fighting squadron. On October 8, 1941, Stalin gave orders to deploy three all-female Air Force units. The women would not only fly missions and drop bombs, they would return fire,

making the Soviet Union the first nation to officially allow women to engage in combat. Previously, women could help transfer planes and ammunition, after which the men took over. So, yeah, this one is... Thanks, love. I'll take it from here. I've got it. Yeah love i'll take it from here i've got it yeah i'll take this i wonder what the reasoning behind not letting women be in combat it was just i think it was just old school thinking women shouldn't be in the front lines you know this is a man's job get him angry you're fucked you know what i? That enemy. Yeah, one of the Night Witches I mentioned later was motivated by revenge.

Perfect. That's the best thing to be motivated by, I reckon. Oh, yeah. According to the Wright Museum of World War II, the three all-women fighting groups Stalin authorized were the 586th Fighter Aviation Regiment, the 587th Bomber Aviation Regiment, and the 588th Night Bomber Aviation Regiment, the 587th Bomber Aviation Regiment and the 588th Night Bomber Aviation Regiment. After the training, the pilots deemed most qualified were assigned to the

586th Fighter Aviation Regiment, the second most qualified to the 587th Bomber Aviation Regiment and the least qualified to the 588th Night Bomber Aviation Regiment. But in a unique twist of fate, the least qualified became the most feared and famous. Oh. Right. They don't know how to land a plane, so they will crash it into you. Yeah, so, and these names did, if people are looking into these stories, these regiment names did change in time, which confused me for a while.

Right. I'm like, wait, why is the information so inconsistent? But I think they were renamed. Okay. But I'm just going to keep calling them the 588th. Yeah, sure. Or just the Night Witches. Just to be nice and clear.

Yeah, sure. Or just the night witches. Just to be nice and clear. Chosen to lead the 588th was Yevdokia Bershanskaya. She was born on the 6th of Feb, 1913, in modern-day Russia. After graduating from secondary school, she studied at the Batask School of Pilots in 1931. After graduating, she worked as a trainer there for the next eight years before being appointed as commander of the 218th Special Operations

Aviation Squadron. So she's studying at the School of Pilots in 1931, four years after the Dole Air Race in America. Yeah. When the 588th was formed, she got the gig of leading the regiment due to her 10 years of flying experience. I should say, which one of you did the Amelia Earhart episode? Jess. I had to look at Daveave i was like dave will know i'm talking about it like america

was behind on this stuff but when did amelia airheart when was her sort of well jess will answer this having done the report and i'll just uh go and have a look at that report now in my... I don't remember. No, she was... So her final flight was in 1937 by the looks of it. So she was also flying in the 30s. So I think things just came on quickly with all of the flying stuff. Yeah.

Especially in the big powers around that time. According to Grundhauser the 588th was also the only one of the three units that remained exclusively female where everyone from the pilots to the commanders to the mechanics were women the regiment began filling out in 1942 with young women ranging in age from 17 to 26 this feels right that you're doing this as the feminist of the podcast because this is really cool and quite groundbreaking for the time. All women mechanics and the whole team, that's great. I'm not sure how to feel about it, so I need you to explain to me.

Earlier I said I was surprised by some of this stuff. I don't mean surprised that the women are up to it. Of course not. Certainly not. I was surprised that the men are up to it. Of course not. Certainly not. I was surprised that the men in power allowed it. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The men are the problem.

That's what I'm saying as a feminist. I hate myself and Dave, but I love you, Jess. Dave, anything to add? It's all fair, isn't it? And do you love me, Dave? Yeah, I love women in general. Love supporting them. Because, like, honestly, how hot are women?

Oh, my God, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How hot are women? Welcome to new listeners. Some baffling in-jokes here. Okay, so 17 to 26-year-olds. So they're all, you know, quite young.

And they all headed to the small town of Engles to begin flight training. The future pilots were greeted by Raskova herself with a no-nonsense military manner. One of the women who signed up was 19-year-old Nadezhda Popova. I apologize for all these. I think you're doing great. Thank you. Popova. Popova.

Popova, who volunteered after her brother was killed in battle. She was motivated by revenge. Love it. I love that. According to the Moscow Times, she became one of the best and one of the luckiest. Sweet combo to have. Born December 17th, 1921 in what is now the Ukraine, Popova planned to become a teacher or a doctor until one day a plane landed near her home and she met the pilot. And this is a quote from Popova that was published in a book called A Dance with Death.

I had thought only gods could fly. It was amazing to me that a simple man could get in a plane and fly away. And here he was, the simplest man I ever met. God, he was dim. I met him. Yeah, it was like talking to a bloody brick. Oh, my God. There's nothing between the ears.

They let you fly that? Wow, if he can do it, anyone brick. Oh, my God. There's nothing between the ears. They let you fly that? Wow, if he can do it, anyone can. Honestly, I could do it, and I'm a little girl. Give us a go. I'm a child. I haven't fully developed my fine motor skills that I could do it. This guy's an idiot. According to Emily Langer, writing for the Washington Post,

Pabova joined a flying club and later graduated from an aviation school when the war started she was working as an instructor she said that she decided to join the military after losing her brother and after watching germans abuse her townspeople she's like fuck these guys yeah i'm in uh this is a quote from her i saw the german aircraft flying along our roads filled with people who were leaving their homes, firing at them with their machine guns. Seeing this gave me feelings inside that made me want to fight them. Yeah.

According to Holland, for more than 2,000 applications, she selected around 400 women for each of the three units, most being students. When I say she selected them, this is Raskova. They underwent a highly... Sounds like they had a pretty good chance of getting in there. 2,000, 400 for each, 1,200 made it. If you didn't make it.

Yeah, those numbers are... Yeah, that's not bad. That's pretty good. I mean, like a lot of these sort of reports, the numbers vary. I've saw like way less than that, you know, in the tens. And then, anyway, so it's hard to know for sure. But I did see 400 written a few times, so I'm going with that. And Holland, you know, Holland writes for.

Holland wouldn't lie. Holland. Wait, are you calling Holland a liar? No, I'm saying they wouldn't lie. Jess, Holland wouldn't lie. She's writing for history.com. Yeah. Not fictiontime.org. Yeah,ge yeah love that website though it's

great i mean it's a great website it's fun on my home page start my day with a bit of fiction yeah uh holland continues they underwent a highly compressed education expected to learn in a few months what it took most soldiers several years to grasp. Each recruit had to train and perform as pilots, navigators, maintenance, and ground crew. Beyond their steep learning curve, the women faced skepticism from some of the male military personnel who believed they added no value to the combat effort. Raskinford did her best to prepare her women for these attitudes, but they still faced sexual harassment. According to Steve Prowse, author of The Night Witches, the men didn't like the little girls going to the front line.

It was a man's thing. As well as getting bad attitudes from the male soldiers, the new recruits also received their hand-me-downs. The military was not prepared for women pilots, so they were given uniforms and boots that were often too big. Like putting on your boyfriend's jumper or something. They look cute. prepared for women pilots so they were given uniform and boots that were often too big like putting on your boyfriend's jumper or something they look cute love that messy bun oversized shirt no pants do you also uh put on is it also cute to put on your boyfriend's ill-fitting

underwear yes because that's what they were also given it's cute according why can't they just wear their own underwear? Why does it have to be military? It's military underwear. Also, I find it pretty funny when the men are like, oh, the ladies shouldn't go to the front line. That's a man's job. It's like, okay, so going to the front means you might die. You'll probably die.

I'd be like, anybody else can go. Absolutely, of course. You want to go? Please, before me please you know and just them doing it doesn't that prove that that what you're saying isn't true they're already they're doing it so that's a man's job that you're doing quite well over there toots it sounds like as they they trained and and whatnot they won a lot of them over but there was remaining sexism throughout but you know really yeah yeah wow but sorry i've grown up in a world

without it so i can't even picture what that might be like yeah it is well i don't know to you this is sounding like made up stuff.org these women these women flew so that i could soar you know what i mean because you go to the front line every day now every day people say welcome to the front line every day now. Every day people say, welcome to the front line, Jess. No one bats an eyelid when you go to the front line. Nobody cares that I'm there. That I rock up for my shift on the front line. Yeah, you pop in, pop out. According to Prowse, they had to tear up their bedding and stuff them in their boots to get them to fit.

I'd be why I wear boots. Honestly, at this point, I'm wearing my own undies and don't worry i've got some boots that fit me yeah let us know ahead before we get here let me know what to pack underwear some shoes all right no problem are you going to provide some some pants and a top great thanks heaps i'll bring i I'll BYO shoes. Back to Holland, their equipment wasn't much better than their clothes. The military provided them with outdated Polikapov PO-2 biplanes, 1920s crop dusters that had been used as training vehicles. These are already out of date.

Yeah, right. Like well out of date. You know, they're already over 20 years old or something. It's like you have an 89 Barina. yeah figure out how to fly we don't have any tanks left uh but here's a mazda 2 it does not have uh power steering so it will give you the same sort of feel as a tank it's you know it's zippy the tanks have power steering oh they must they should right they're so big they've got great turning circles so i'm sure they do these light two-seater open cockpit planes were never meant for combat made out of plywood with canvas pulled

over the aircraft offered virtually no protection from the elements, or bullets. Oh my god, so they're like on the Wright Brothers plane, flying over the wall. Stop! Stop, I'm here! Stop it! Stop it at once! They're flying so low they could just slap themselves. Drop a bag of marbles on someone. Flying at night, pilots endured freezing temperatures, wind and frostbite. Flying at night, pilots endured freezing temperatures, wind and frostbite. In the harsh Soviet winters, the planes became so cold, just touching them would rip bare skin off.

Oh, my goodness. Due to both the planes' limited weight capacity and the military's limited funds, the pilots also lacked other luxury items. Luxury in quotation marks. Oh, there's the bar fridge gone. Here from Holland. luxury in quotation marks oh there's the bar fridge gone here from holland uh saying uh instead of parachutes which were too heavy to carry or radar guns and radios they were forced to use more rudimentary tools such as rulers stopwatches flashlights pencils maps and compasses i don't know which one of those were replacing the guns, which one were replacing the parachutes.

Here's a map. We're going down. Grab the ruler. There was some upside to the older aircraft. Their maximum speed was slower than the stall speed of the Nazi planes, which meant these wooden planes, ironically, could maneuver faster than the enemy, making them hard to target. They also could easily take off and land from most locations. But the downside, if they happened to be hit by tracer bullets which carry a pyrotechnic charge,

their wooden planes would burst into flames. That's a bit of a downside. That is a bit of a downside. But put it out with the ruler. Other negatives of the lightweight nature of the planes meant they couldn't carry many bombs at a time. Saw some saying they could carry six at a time. A few others said only two, one under each wing.

So do you mean water bombs? No, they were like proper bombs. Bricks, they would just throw bricks. Explosive bricks. Brickettes. Brickettes, thank you. And they'd light them just before dropping them off. No, they were just smaller bricks for ladies' hands.

Oh, I can't hold one big brick even with less bombs their weight meant they had to fly at lower altitudes which was also good for you know the fact that they didn't have parachutes if they had to don't worry we're only a meter off the ground uh this made them easier targets for the germans which is why they only flew at night At the peak of the squadron, up to 42 women crews would be sent out on bombing raids each night. To get off a meaningful amount of bombs, the teams would complete between 8 and 18 missions a night, returning to rearm themselves between each mission.

It was an exhausting schedule. Like each one might take 40 odd minutes and it's just non-stop. Go, come back, refuel, reload, go, come back. And they'd be out waiting for night to fall, and then when the sun started coming up, that was the end of the day. According to the Wright Museum. That's confusing.

Yeah. The start of the day was the end of the day, Dave. Okay. All right. New day starts, day over. Okay. How sad. You see the sun come up, time to go home.

Night-night. Good night. It's night-time. It's night-time. Night's over, night-time. Do I have to explain myself? These women. According to the Wright Museum of World War II,

the 588th had to operate very close to enemy lines, constantly moving operations during the day so the women could fight at night. Because of their combat schedule, the women slept and trained during the day and flew during the night. Understandably, they didn't get a lot of sleep, but neither did the German units nearby that had to be prepared for nighttime air raids. The psychological effect of the Night Witch raids took a toll on the German troops. psychological effect of the night witch raids took a toll on the german troops when interviewed by nbc many years after the war arena racco bolskaya chief of staff for the night which has said quote one girl managed to fly seven times to the front line and back in her plane she would return shaking and they would hang new bombs refuel her plane and she'd go off to bomb the target again. This is how we worked. Can you imagine?

No. It's wild. Just hectic, hectic, hectic. And that example seven I heard up to 18 in a night. If we have a day where we record two episodes of the podcast, I'm exhausted. I go home, I lie on my bed for a bit just to, you know, just to recharge a little bit. I'm so tired.

Yeah. That reminds me, people should listen. Dave and I did a big day of recording recently. What do podcasters do? Plumbing the Death Star? Yep. Thumb cramps. They're two Sandspans Radio ones and then Dave went home after two.

Laid down on Jess's bed, had to recharge. I hung around, did a Who Knew It With Matt Stewart and Primates. So they're all with the Sandspants guys, and yeah, it was too many. That's too many. That's psychotic. That was yesterday, and now you're doing this. Yeah, I was writing this report in between recordings. I lived to pod.

You lumber. You lumber. Lived to pod. You lumber. I'm just saying. Seven, 18 trips back and forth in a war zone, in freezing conditions, in a tiny little shitty plane. That is...

Yeah, it's badass is what it is. We're just not built the same. But you're forgetting that a lot of these women are motivated by revenge. Yeah, that's true. You're up there freezing. The only thing keeping you warm, that's revenge. Spite. Yeah.

I'm not podcasting out of revenge the cold actually helps because it is a dish best served that way according to the wright museum of world war ii each flight was extremely dangerous because the germans surrounded what they thought would be likely targets with concentric circles of spotlight and flak guns that night witches would have to fly through to reach their targets so the the germans knew what they're up to they it was like a game of cat and mouse every day they knew they were coming they're trying to guess and they would often guess you know close and they light them up in the sky yeah light them up with bullets exactly so that was um so they're

like oh how do we deal with this and they devised a strategy to foil the Germans. They would fly in groups of three, three planes. When they neared their target, two planes would fly through the circles and then veer off in different directions, which caused the searchlights and flak guns to target them. So it sort of split them up a bit. Then the third plane would fly towards the objective. When the navigator tapped her on the shoulder,

she would kill the engine and drift near silently towards the target with only the faint whooshing sound of wind through the struts signaling their impending attack. Oh, my God. This whooshing sound was said to sound like a broom sweeping. Then the navigator would drop her bombs and the pilot hopefully would restart the engine and fly off. The three planes would switch places until they dropped all of their bombs

and then return to the base for more. That's so good. That is so good. Can we ask, Matt, what would that sound like, them switching the engine off and then the bombs being dropped? So the engine's on at the start? Yep. Vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom. Whoosh. Whoosh. Ha! And then the bomb is being dropped. So the engine's on at the start? Yep.

I don't think he's ever used to broom. Here comes the bomb. They said it's a whooshing sound. Yeah, but it's such a gentle broom. No wonder nothing's getting done in that house if you sweep it at that speed. I used to broom for a living. When I was a trolleyboy at the supermarket, that was one of my duties. Oh, you're a trolleyboy or a broom boy?

Yeah, I know. Okay, now the bomb's dropping from the whooshing, that gentle, gentle whooshing. Oh, what's that? Is it a mosquito? Oh, it's getting closer. Oh, no. Louder.

I'm dead. Damn you, night witches. They whoosh away. So, yeah, so the Germans apparently, they heard this whooshing sound, and when they heard it, they basically shat themselves they're like oh fuck it's like it was so eerie and they're like we know what that sound means it just sounds like it would have been horrible um and this is why the germans nicknamed them the nacht hexen or night witches god that's such an amazing title what is it n? Nacht Hexen. Wow. That is good. I'm probably not saying that right, Dave.

Well, you're a German man. You've got German in you. That's right. And you never forget, even if you've never learned. Yeah, I guess they've gone from broom sounds. I'm not sure. It feels like maybe it definitely was the Germans being pejorative when they're calling them Night Witches.

But apparently the pilots of the 588th quickly took it on with pride. Yeah, nice. They're like, yeah, we're Night Witches. I love that. Nacht Hexen, that's fucking badass. Thank you. Oh, the Nacht Hexen. Thank you for that sick nickname.

Yeah. That's awesome. We were looking for something. We want to get matching tats. Don't you reckon that sounds like they've done that in reverse so saying oh no we just called them that because of this the whooshing sound it's not because it was women flying at yeah yeah it couldn't have been that uh according to prowse the whooshing sound was the only warning the germans had the planes were too small to show up on radar or on infrared locators they never

used radio so radio locators couldn't pick them up either. They were basically ghosts. They didn't use radios because they weren't given any. A lot of the, like they made a lot of negatives into positives. Right. The Germans had two theories about why these women were so successful. Firstly, they were all criminals who were masters at stealing and had been sent to the front line as punishment

Or they had been given special injections that allowed them to see in the night So a couple of pretty... I think it's both Yeah, they're both true Yeah, that's the weird thing It's not one or the other Nazis, okay? It's both Sometimes it can be both

They're thieves With injections With cat eyes But what's the theory? They're such good thieves That's why they're thieves with injections so because there's such cat eyes but what's the theory they're such good thieves that's why they're such good pilots yeah yeah it's not that's not they're not interchangeable skills yeah well the germans didn't know that back then true yeah we're thinking with today's brain yeah you're right try and think with a 1940s nazi brain of course yeah i try i try it's hard to get in the mindset gotta tell you got to tell you. Yeah, it is tough.

Popova. Popova. Popova. Popova. I think that's what you said the first time and it made me... Popova. Popova.

Popova for a cup of tea? Why not? Popova talked about this rumour of them being able to see in the dark in Albert Axel's book Greatest Russian War Stories, saying, This was nonsense, of course.

What we did have were clever, educated, very talented girls. Who could see in the dark. And were thieves. Who ate their veggies. Remember carrots make you see in the dark. That's right. Yes. They were also tough as nails, as Popova later discussed, saying,

when the wind was strong, it would toss the plane. In winter, when you'd look out to see your target better you got frostbite our feet froze in our boots but we carried on flying if you give up nothing is done and you are not a hero as i'd be giving up i'm okay with not being a hero right i'm not a hero and i'm fine i'm all right yeah i've got a warm bed my feet uh aren't frozen off cowardly warm bed yeah cowardly unfrozen feet oh heaven great i'll happily be a coward are you kidding me yeah i mean what they went through was awful uh but there was a world war on and and their country had been invaded i reckon you'd you'd jump to action no i just don't think I would. I'd be like, take me as a POW.

I don't want to. I don't think that's as good as probably what you've heard. You might be getting a few of those things anyway. I don't know. I mean, it depends on who's. Maybe they'll be like, hey, we look after our POWs, whoever this regime taking us down. Yeah, true.

Maybe they're like, hey, actually, we were hoping that our prison camps are a little glum. Do you reckon you could do some radio, put on some tunes for people? You could zhuzh them up a bit. I'm like, you know what? I actually have the skill set for that. Yes. We could give you a little grand. Set you up.

And we're so sorry about the state of the place the pool is getting clean tomorrow it's okay i guess so yeah popover was that you know badass but she saw some horrible things as langer wrote once popover watched four planes crash carrying eight women to their deaths saying what a nightmare poor girls my friends only yesterday we had slept in the bunks together. This is her talking years later. I don't know why she said yesterday. Bobova remarked that perhaps she was born lucky.

One time she counted 42 bullet holes in her plane. Catcher, my dear, she said to her navigator, we will live long. She's like, we're lucky. I'm feeling good about this. There's another famous story about another night which pilot who lost the bottom of her plane to enemy fire but kept on flying and returned home safe.

Her legs were just running underneath her. Yeah, like literally her feet were dangling out of the bottom. She landed Fred Flintstone style. She just had to put her heels down to slow the plane down. How did she land? I guess she pulled up her feet. Oh, that's crazy. That's a good question.

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perils she'd endured saying at night sometimes i look up into the dark sky close my eyes and picture myself as the girl at the controls of my bomber and i think nadia how on earth did you do it so sick i was a big big fan um sadly the founder of the Night Witches, Marina Raskova, who we talked about before, the one who jumped out of the plane into the snowstorm, unfortunately, she didn't share the same luck as Popova, and on January 4, 1943, she died. According to the female soldier,

she died while attempting to lead two other P-2s to a safe airfield. She was forced into making a forced landing on the Volga bank, which resulted in the deaths of the entire bomber crew. Raskova received the first state funeral of the war and her ashes were buried in the Kremlin wall beside those of fellow pilot Polina Ossipenko. She was posthumously awarded the Order of Patriotic War First Class and the regiments she created continued to serve for the duration of the war.

As the war was drawing to an end, the squadron's last flight took place in early May of 1945. According to Holland at the time, the Night Witches were within 60 kilometres, approximately 37 miles, of Berlin. Three days later, Germany officially surrendered. Altogether, they flew more than 30,000 missions in total, or about 800 per pilot and navigator. That's awesome. The pioneering all-female 588th Night Bomber Regiment dropped more than 23,000 tons of bombs on Nazi targets, and in doing so, they became a crucial Soviet asset in winning World War II. Some of the targets they damaged or destroyed include 17 river crossings, 9 railways, 2 railway stations, 26 warehouses, 12 fuel depots,

176 armoured cars, 86 prepared firing positions and 11 searchlights. And a partridge in a pear tree. The grimmest Christmas carol ever. Plus they also made 150 supply drops for food and ammunition to Soviet forces. Holland continues, they lost a total of 30 pilots, which, think about all the, if it's true that they had 1,200, it's a pretty good record. Yeah. Although, no, I think 12 would cost the three, so it would be 400.

But even if it's 30 out of 400. Yeah, considering how dangerous their missions are. Absolutely, yeah. But like I say, I'm not 100% on these numbers. They do vary a little bit. But if you take Holland's numbers, yeah, it was 400 and it's only 30. I take Holland's numbers. History.com.

Yeah. Holland's not here to fuck about. Yeah, not horsemanewer.fanny. Horsemanewer.fanny. Don't forget the sound I made. Yeah, that was a hard one for them to get. Very hard to Google that one. Horsemanewer.fanny.

So they lost the title of 30 pilots and 24 of the flyers were awarded their title hero of the soviet union they were feared and hated so much by the nazis that any german airman who downed one was automatically awarded the prestigious iron cross medal wow that's amazing yeah that that's how scared they are of these tiny little women in their little shitty planes that you know oh women can't fly planes and shouldn't be fighting but they're so scared of them that if you shoot one down you're automatically a hero incredible that's so great how scared they are of you amazing uh despite this is a slightly grimmer finish to it, despite being the most highly decorated unit in the Soviet Air Force

during the war, the Night Witches Regiment was disbanded six months after the end of World War II, and when it came to the big victory parade in Moscow, they weren't included because it was decided their planes were too slow. So they're like, oh, we're doing a big celebrated parade, but yeah. Well, how fast is the parade travelling? It's a parade. It's a parade.

They're all slow. Yeah. I thought that was very strange. Or just put them in a car. Yeah. Put them in the back of a Toyota Hilux. Like a walk-along. Yeah.

Because in my head I'm like, I think if a war just finished like that and you had this such a successful sort of mysterious regiment, you wouldn't want to give away what their planes were and people see them in the light and go, oh, we probably should have been able to knock them out of the sky. But you couldn't. So maybe you'd be like, oh, if they wanted to keep the secret, fair enough. But just surely let them march.

Yeah, put them on the back of a truck or something that's right that says holland wrote it and i yeah it did sound like i saw another article did say that the squadron continued on but i read multiple ones saying that yeah months after the war they were disbanded um yeah uh but you know the amount of medals that were won by the women involved is ridiculous. The leader, she had this, I mean, I could read them all out, but there's like seven different high medals, including one that she's the only woman to ever win one. Wow.

Yeah. I wonder what you do with your life after that. You know, like just going and like, I don't know, getting an average nine to five job and living in the suburbs, which is nothing wrong with that life. But it'd be a come down. Totally. Yeah, but then you look up at the sky one day and go,

how did I used to do that? Yeah, how did you do it? What the hell? That's wild. Some of them went into chemistry and were like in science and those sort of things. But, yeah, you know, as exciting and as high octane as science can be day to day, it's probably not quite the same as bombing Nazis.

Rock and roll. Slightly warmer. Better hours, though, hey. Oh, yeah. You know, because when it gets dark, day is over. Night time. Not night over, night time. Yeah.

Know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, better hours. It would have taken a while to get used you know what i mean yeah so yeah better hours it's taken a while to get used to that yeah unless they went into night shift work at a supermarket oh yeah that could work or like nursing yeah do a lot of shift work that's true maybe a hotel concierge yes yeah that would work quite well for doing the night shift yeah specifically oh sun's up night time uh just as a final note, unbelievably, Dave, you might be able to help me with this. How many of our previous topics have the Swedish metal band Sabaton made songs about? Because I think it's at least a few.

We have The Unkillable Soldier. Yes. And there's one about the Great War, World War I. And I reckon there was another one. But add to the list. Do they do a Cold It's one or maybe a Castle Itter maybe? Yes, I reckon that rings a bell. Well, you can add Night Witches to the list.

Wow. And I thought I'd finish with the lyrics because they're pretty fun. I mean, you know, pretty badass. And I don't know if this is a good band or not. I've never really listened to them. But we can go see them live. Did you know that they're playing? Oh, we're going to a festival they're playing at.

A festival in December? Yeah, Good Times Festival. Is it? Tism are playing it good times good things no effects yeah and sabaton are up there it's gonna be sick uh hopefully they don't clash because i will be seeing tism i gotta tell you that over anyone yeah uh so here are the lyrics from the depths of hell in silence cast their their spells, explosive violence. Russian nighttime, flight perfected, flawless vision undetected. I mean, it's poetry. It's great stuff. Pushing on and on their planes are going strong.

Air Force is number one. Somewhere down below, they're looking for the foe. Bombers on a run. You can't hide. You can't move just abide their attacks been proved raiders in the dark silent through the night the witches join the fight never miss their mark canvas wings of death prepare to meet your fate night bomber regiment five eight eight oh that's good undetected unexpected wings of glory tell their story aviation deviation

undetected self-perfected foes are losing ground retreating to the sound death is in the air suddenly appears confirming all your fears strike from witch's lair target found come around barrel sound from the battleground axis aiming high rodina awaits defeat them at the gates live to fight and fly beneath the starlight of the heavens unlikely heroes in the skies which is to attack which is coming back as they appear on the horizon the wind will whisper when the night which has come that was beautiful that was very nice sabotage sorry maybe that's yeah that's oh my goodness that feels more appropriate for how that was performed man i gotta tell you i'm so i i don't know why this wasn't a longer episode because i loved learning about him uh hopefully i didn't

talk too quickly but i just blew my mind from start to finish. Everything about them. Every single one of the key players was a bigger badass than the one before. So cool. It's just ridiculous. Yeah, so many legends. And I just looked up a picture of them as well. Obviously, there's heaps of them, but I've just looked up.

And not only are they incredible pilots, but they're all hot. You know what I mean? Because how hot are women? Yeah, that's true pilots but they're all hot you know what i mean it's because how hot are women yeah and they're all women they're all women that is that's something i didn't mention but it came up a few times that um they were sort of um so a lot of them cut their hair and stuff and uh they felt like maybe they were trying to be made into men so they sort of and and were also being derided as women so they felt like maybe they were trying to be made into men so they sort of and and were also being derided as women so they're like yeah we're women and they sort of like they use makeshift pencils that were meant for other things to use as lipstick they paint flowers on their planes and like yeah we're women we're not ashamed of this yeah love that we're women and badasses

because you can be both you can be both also you can be a woman without lipstick but you know no that one's that one's not true you are only a woman if you if you let a man see you without lipstick um yeah wild i love that they're like you know know, reclaiming it. They're like, well, I can wear lipstick and drop bombs, whatever. Love that. That's feminism, baby. Yes. Do whatever you want to be.

So I think, yeah, the voters nailed that. That's great. I was not expecting that at all. Do you know what I was thinking? I was thinking this was going to be some kind of, what's the word I'm looking for? Like an occult thing or something? Oh, yes.

Is that what I'm thinking of? Yeah, like a Bigfoot type thing. Yeah, totally. I was like, oh, okay, cool. This will be some sort of thing that people swear they've seen. No, that was, so that's what I was expecting and I was all for it. But what it was instead was one of my favorite stories, Badass Women. Yeah, sick.

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and each of them also gets to give themselves a title stephen gives himself the title of king of all new zealand immigrants sorry king of all new zealand migrants who moved to australia cause yolo okay all right i haven't heard yolo and yonks yeah it's been too. Thank you so much for bringing it from New Zealand, aka the past, and a little fun there. Just a bit of fun. Honestly, one of my favorite countries I've ever visited. Beautiful place.

Love it. Want to be there now. I've been there twice. Once I traveled around the North Island for a couple weeks, saw the Saints play the first game in Wellington. Got done. Doesn't matter. Didn't let it get me down.

And then another trip down to the Southern Island. Beautiful. And I'm like the Northern Island. I'm like, I've never seen such beautiful country. And then the Southern Island said, hold my beer. Yeah. While I kick you in the dick with my beauty. Yeah.

I drove around. I spent the whole trip going. One time driving the South Island, we sort of like came over a hill and we could see a lake and it was just turquoise, like just the colour. And I screamed. I literally screamed. I remember there were multiple lakes with that colour. But you are afraid Of the colour turquoise

I am terrified of it Actually yeah So I had to close my eyes I was driving It was a shriek It was very dangerous Yeah New Zealand I think

In a lot of ways Is the future as well I feel like they're ahead of us In so many ways Anyway In terms of like time zone Time zone Yeah

You know A lot of sort of Other things Yeah yeah The Prime Minister Is embarrassing Their rugby union team Oh yeah yeah uh you know a lot of sort of other things yeah yeah uh prime minister is embarrassing they you uh their uh rugby union team oh yeah they're always definitely ahead of us uh okay so steven writes oh asking a question here hey team love your work thank you for making my drives home

more hazardous as i try to concentrate through uncontrollable laughter. My question is a follow-up to my NRL mascot-based question from years ago. Which AFL mascot slash symbol do you think would win in a last mascot standing fight? And he's offered us an answer here. I mean, right off the back of this episode, you think the Bombers. I was thinking Bombers is hard to beat. But then some of them also seem to have sort of mythical powers.

Like the giants. If the giants are so big that they're just plucking the bombers out of the sky. Or like the suns. Oh, yeah. Gorko suns. That's where all energy comes from, the suns. And they're not just one sun. They're suns.

But then there's also the Geelong cats. That's true. And we don't know how many cats. Cats can be pretty But then there's also the Geelong cats. That's true. And we don't know how many cats. Cats can be pretty tricky. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've got nine lives and they haven't given us a limit. It's plural cats.

Yeah. But I guess it's also plural giants. But if it's all the giants that you know of versus all the cats that you know of. Oh, good point. There's a lot more cats. Andre's dead. Is there any others? But what about dockers? Oh, yeah. Yeah, they'll- A couple of guys on the docks. You know, there's a lot more. Andre's dead. Is there any others? But what about Dockers?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, they'll... A couple of guys on the docks. You know? They're pretty rough. They're rough. Yeah. Strong.

Big picket lines. Yeah. You don't want to be a scab. So... Am I thinking of the right thing? Painters and Dockers Union? They were pretty tough back in the day, I believe. Oh, yeah.

I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm going to say Suns. Okay, Suns. You can't... You couldn't blow up the Sun, I believe. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm going to say suns. Okay, suns. You couldn't blow up the sun, could we? With a bomb. No. So I'm going to say the sun could beat a bomber. Unless you could mix the giants and the bombers

and make the giant bombers. But you can't do that. That wasn't in the rules. What about the saints, my boys and girls? What about them? Well, I mean, they're... They're dead. They're undead, aren't they?

They're dead. So they're useless. Wait, saints? Yeah, they are dead people, aren't they? And they're like, what can a saint do to the sun? But don't they perform miracles to become saints? I don't know if... But what can they do to the sun?

Blot it from the sky? Smote it? I'm not sure. I'm saying sun. All right. I the sky? Smote it? I'm not sure. I'm saying sun. All right. I'm going to lock in cats. Okay. They're very tricky.

They are. And there's all different breeds of cats. You get lions and tigers. Yeah, cop that, Richmond. Yeah, you get them all. That's the clever place to say cats, not tigers or lions. Yep, got them all. You even get ligers.

Terrifying. And tigrons. That's pretty full on. So, as we always encourage, Stephen has answered his own question. But you didn't answer? Well, I said the saints. But, yeah, Jess has made a good point. That only works if you believe in them. Your loyalty to the saints has, you know, hasn't helped you in your entire life.

Yeah. So, Stephen writes, my money would be going on the demons with power, giants, and bombers making up the top four. Saints scraping in for fifth. Sorry, Matt. But what is power? Power, yeah, I what is power? Power. Yeah, I guess that's the thing. It's all-

What about power? That's pretty broad, isn't it? Yeah. What's their mascot? Lightning Bolt. Okay. No, but lightning can't take out the sun. No.

Or kill all the cats. Nothing can. There's more cats than lightning bolts. More cats than lightning bolts. What if the power trapped them in a big ditch? Okay. Okay. If there was a mascot for the ditch, like the Hobart ditches.

Because they are the port power. They could trap all the cats in the port Adelaide. Oh, my God. Are you drowning a bunch of cats? Well, I'm not. Matt. I'm not doing that. I think he's right.

Demons. It's hard to beat demons, right? What can demons do to the sun? I think demons as being nighttime creatures as well. They'll be afraid of the sun. Yeah. If anything. He's given us the full list in order of preference, if you want to hear it.

Either way, I'm reading it. Oh, no. Sorry. He's just given us the list of team names. We worked our way through it. Let's go through all the teams just in case you can think of anyone we might have missed. Crows, lions, already usurped by cats. Blues, if that's sadness. Oh, that could take out the sound.

Or if that's the music. It's a very powerful genre. Yeah, again, what can it do to the sun? No, it can't do anything to the sun. It's more of a nighttime thing as well. Magpies, similar to crows. Although they're beautiful if they're the Irish magpies. Oh, my God.

But these, unfortunately, are the Australian magpies. The Australian ones, they are ugly. Which are great. I got swooped by one the other day. Did you? I've never been swooped. First time since I was a kid. And I'm scared.

Yeah. One time, one drilled me in the back day. Did you? I've never been swooped. First time since I was a kid. And I'm scared. Yeah. One time, one drilled me in the back of the head as a kid on the way to school. They can use tools. Yeah. I've heard that about magpies. Very clever birds. Poseable thumbs. Clever bird.

Then we've got bombers, dockers, cats, giants, hawks, suns, kangaroos. Obviously pretty tough. Demons, power, tigers, saints, swans, eagles and bulldogs. Yeah, I think we pretty much covered it there. Sun. Sun can take out all of those. I think sun's probably the one. And I don't think that, did that not even make his...

Yeah, that's where he's stuffed up. Demons, power, giants and bombers. Didn't even, yeah, didn't even think about sun. I think he'd put the suns to his five, and that top six are levels above everyone else, including Dave's cats, who are probably on the bottom. Yeah, 100%. What are you talking about?

I mean, the birds will just fly away from them. Easy. They'll just wait them out. Oh, you know, birds. Famously, cats never get them. Are you thinking of Tweety Bird? Yeah, famously never gotten by Sylvester. That's just the first one.

Fuck you. Fuck you, birds. The next one. Thank you, Stephen, for that question. The next one comes from Derek Brigham. Okay. Brigham. Amorous meteorologist.

Oh, hello. All right. Derek has offered a fact, writing, the temperature of 20.555 recurring degrees centigrade is very pleasant for a sunny spring day. There's your sun again, Jess. Not cold, not hot, just very enjoyable. Wonderful for a picnic with a significant other,

dining for two in the sunshine. What makes it even better is that 20.555 degrees recurring Celsius converted to Fahrenheit is 69. That is nice. Nice. That's fantastic work, Derek. That is really good. What temperature was it, 20 point?

20.555. Yeah, he's right. 20.5. 20 is a nice temperature.'s a nice day beautiful day i reckon melbourne's in that area today today it's like 22 today just pure sunshine blue skies we are missing out on that i know we're inside in a dark room thank you derek that was fantastic work next one comes from drew forsberg aka the one with the reference to a previous episode, the show, not the concept. That's a deep cut reference.

I called the episode about friends in brackets, the TV show, not the concept. Drew's got a question writing, can Matt Murdock see why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch? Does that mean anything to you? Is Matt Murdock the Simpsons Daredevil character? Because I don't understand the question. No, that's Lance Murdock.

Lance Murdock. Does this mean anything to you? Can Matt Murdock see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch? Matt Murdock is the alter ego of Daredevil. That's so weird that I said, is that the Daredevil guy from The Simpsons? You're putting something together. And he's a blind lawyer because I watched, he was on She-Hulk recently. And so the question is, can Matt Murdoch see why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch?

I'm guessing cinnamon toast crunch is like a breakfast cereal in another country. And that's a, does that mean anything to you, Dave? Cinnamon Toast Crunch? I mean, it sounds good. I'd eat it. It's a whole grain cereal you'll love. It's got its website, cinnamontoastcrunch.com. I'll say slogan.

Let's see. Wait, hang on. Here we go. There's a Reddit thing saying, Cinnamon Toast Crunch slogan implies that it's not obvious why anyone would like their cereal. Oh, but what is it? What is the thing?

The taste you can see. Okay. Okay. Okay. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. So I'm sure that this is the snappy sort of response Drew was looking for. I know. Sorry, Drew.

We didn't understand any element we also don't have that cereal i've never heard of it now now that we know the the key elements there do we have an answer can i have the question again can matt murdoch the daredevil see why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch Lock in A A is yes Jess what about you? I'm also looking at A Yes can I'm going to say B

Can't that's how Great and the answer is? C All of the above There you go cinnamon toast crunch Thank you very much Drew Sorry Drew Finally this week we've got one from Bracken Markens.

Bracken. A.K.A. Chief Marketing Officer of the Give Your Kids Normal Names Society and Not-For-Profit. And Bracken is asking a question, which is, I like my name in most circumstances, but it makes ordering coffee and meeting new people awkward. Once, a new co-worker called me Bacon for two full weeks. I thought your name was Bacon. This is Bacon. Hi Bacon.

Makes me wonder, if you could have chosen your name, what would you have picked? Bracken himself or Bracken themselves would go with something like Spencer. Not common, but something you've heard before. Yeah. It's not going to get mispronounced. Yeah. Spencer P. Jones. That's good.

Or some other Spencer. What's the Spencer who was like, Oh, the monkey did a whoopsie in my beret. Who is that? What? Oh, the monkey did a whoopsie in my beret. Now, quick question. Could Matt Morgan see the monkey doing the whoopsie?

Hang on, where's the whoopsie? In the beret. Oh, yes. What are you talking? No no don't go down a deep just answer the question what would you name yourself don't go deep trying to find out who this beret wearing cool mo d simpson

cool mo cool mo d that was what Bart suggested Maggie should be called cool mo d simpson cool mo d yeah I think it was cool mo d was maybe a musician CoolmoD. That was what Bart suggested Maggie should be called. CoolmoD. CoolmoD, yeah. I think it was CoolmoD was maybe a musician at the time. Dave, what would you name yourself?

I'm probably going to go with Basil. Oh, my God, that suits you. Hello, everyone, I'm Baz. You can call me Basil. Or the other way around. Probably the other way around. Hi, I'm Basil, but you can call me Baz. Yeah, that's fine.

No, I'd be calling you Basil. You wouldn't call me baz no you're not a baz because baz especially in australia is like a barry you're not a barry but you are a basil barry is so good you know you can also be a colin yeah i think you'd be a good colin basil has a bit of razzle is a bit holland you know what I mean. I don't, because that's not a word. Holland's not a word. Frank Spencer is the girl I was thinking of. You could also be a Clark.

Who's Frank Spencer? He's the one who wore a beret. And the monkey did a whoopsie. Oh, Betty, the monkey did a whoopsie in my beret. I think it's from the 70s or something. Right. Matt, you would name yourself? I love, I think maybe my all-time favourite name,

it's probably Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Yeah. I don't know if you could pull that off. I don't think I could pull it off. I love names like Gary, Barry, Greg. Sleg. Sleg. There was a recent episode of Who Knew It with Matt Stewart

where there was a movie called Joe Lemonade, which was quite a good name. Oh, that's a good name. You could set your watch to that name. That is good stuff. Joe Lemonade. Yeah, so it's tricky. What about Gregory Shenickity?

Yeah. New York. 100%. Typhonated surname. That's great. And Jess? I've always thought Jess is a very common name. It's only ever been misheard a couple of times over the phone ordering stuff.

They've been like, Jeff? And I'm like, all right. But I've always thought I could be a Kate, I reckon. Kate's a great name. That's another name of the era that's quite common. Absolutely, yeah. And I do really like the name Kate. But also, like, if I got to choose, I'd go for a fun name like Ginger.

Oh, Ginger. You know, something fun. I like Jarvis. Jarvis. Jarvis is a good name. Ginger. Oh, Ginger. You know, something fun. I like Jarvis. Jarvis. Jarvis is a good name. Jarvis Cocker. I know that one already exists, but maybe it could be Jarvis Cocker Jr. Jarvis Cocker Jr.

That's nice. JCJ. That's nice. Yeah. Jarvis Cocker Jr. Or it'd be like a Poppy or a Lily or something a bit fun. I reckon mush them all together. Poppy, Lily, something fun.

That's nice. Yeah, that's good. And that's your middle name. Yeah. Now what's your first and last name? My last name is Shooting Star, that's for sure. Oh, yeah, fantastic. And my first name is Lemonade.

Great question there, Bracken. I'm a big fan of Bracken Markins as a name, by the way. Bracken's very cool. I'm sorry that somebody thought your name was Bacon. I also think Bacon. I'm sorry how hard we laughed at that. Come on, Bacon's a good name. I do like Bacon as well.

The name and kind of the meat, but you know. So. Sorry. Sorry. The next thing we like to do is thank a few other great supporters. Normally Jess comes up with a bit of a game based on the topic at hand. I thought about what kind of vessel or vehicle they would drive into war. Great. Love war? Great.

Love that. Great. What do you think? Do we give them a badass regiment name? If we can. If we can. No promises on that. That'll be a bonus if possible.

I've already got one ready to go. Well, great. Well, I think you might be thinking of one from Wilder, Kentucky in the US, Shannon West. Yeah, Shannon floated in on inflatable swans. Oh, yeah. And the regiment, Floaty Magoaty. That's good. The Floaty Magoaty, love that.

No notes. I'd also love to thank from Ascot Vale in Victoria, Australia, James Graham. What about the Wiggles Big Red Car? In the Jargras. The Jargras Regiment. Jargras. The Jargras. Because of James Graham?

Yeah. It sounds a bit like Fargrar. I love that. You love Fargrar? No, I don't love Fargrar. I would have thought that would be far from your taste. That would be far from my repertoire. Far from your taste. That would be far from my repertoire.

Far from your bra. Far. And finally, I'd love to thank from Bellevue in Western Australia. It's Greg Nelly. A big one. How many N's in Nelly? Two. I'm on a computer that I don't know how to make the words bigger. Despite it, that is the biggest computer I've ever seen yeah so in comparison the words look so small you're looking at the same google

doc you could just um zoom in okay so underneath view and insert there's a view insert that's a little number it says mine says 125 for example oh yeah yes. I'm down a miniature 100%. Yeah, no, no, no, baby. You've got to put that on. I'm on 125% as well, just for comfort. I can read it at 100%, but I like to. I've just jumped you. I'm 150%.

How's that? Better? A little better. Okay, great. And Greg Nelly. Greg Nelly. What is Greg Nelly? Rolling into war.

He's thrown, being carried by six oiled up men. Yes. Wow. And his regiment is called the Oily Doilies. The Oily Doilies. I love it. That is a bit of fun. May I thank some people?

Please. I really wish you would. I would love to thank. From Stockport in Manchester. Oh, hello, um, from Stockport. Wait, do it. What's one of the Gallaghers? I don't know.

You do. Noel. Noel. Yeah, now do Noel's voice. Not the question you're asking, okay? Yeah, I don't know how they talk, but they would talk with that accent. You love Morrissey. How does he sound?

Noel, oh, oh. There it is. And that is also what Sam Lacey sounds like. Sam Lacey rolling in on a coffin on wheels. Oh, with a little steering wheel on it. A little steering wheel, but also it doesn't even have an engine. It's just like people are bowling them in like a bowling ball, but pushing.

It's like a luge type thing. The wall has to be at the bottom of a hill it's so interesting you said that because people did dub or some people have since dubbed the night which is balsa wood airplanes the plywood not balsa um plywood airplanes as coffins with wings that's amazing yeah well this is a coffin with wheels. Sam Lacey. And obviously Sam Lacey is one member of the Tree Boy Big Boys. Because of the coffins. I don't know. I don't know how my brain works.

Tree Boy Big Boys. I think it's because there's a lot of green on my screen. Tree Boy Big Boys. So thank you, Sam. But boy, it's obviously not a boy only thing. It's weird they named it that. It's an ironic title. Anyone is welcome in the Tree Boy Big Boys.

I would also love to thank from location unknown, so we assume deep within the Fortress of the Moles, Simon Telford. Simon Telford. Simon Telford. Well, maybe it's got to be an underground thing, mole related. What about a land submarine? Oh, I love it. Have we talked about the idea of these before?

So they can somehow just move through the dirt. Like a worm. Because apparently some comic book superheroes can fly underground i read that just um researching something at some point that is one of the more ridiculous things i've ever heard yeah but i guess it's as ridiculous as anything in those things so it's like yeah they can just sort of i guess move through the ground like just like ruin the structural integrity integrity of cities yeah or are they just yeah i mean and you call yourself a superhero you're more like a super zero to me that's right but anyway

that's what uh tommy's that's what simon's simon's uh up to don't know where i got the name tommy from simon um yeah but his submarine sort of just passes through no effect on the structure so it's like a train no no not like a train It just moves through like a ghost almost. Wow, that's spooky. Doesn't affect things. And what's the regimen called? Call them a ground submarine ghost, and they're called the ground ghosts.

Ground ghosts. Dirty ghosts. The dirty ghosts. We're the dirty ghosts. That's good. That's not bad, yeah, I like that a lot. Don't fuck with the dirty ghosts. Thank you, Simon.

We're coming up at you from underneath. I'd also love to thank from Finnspang. Is that Sweden? Yeah, wow. I would love to thank Tommy Svensson. Tommy Svensson is coming in on one of those, you know when sometimes you see lakes and there's those things that you can pedal those boats on top of them?

One of those things, but it's shaped like a swan. Oh, that's nice. So I assume that swans are going to be used in the name, Bob, is that right? No. No? It's the paddle boys. Tommy, you've got to let us know what Sweden thinks of Sabaton. What are we dealing with here?

Are you proud of Sabaton? Yeah. Are they big there or is it like you're not into them? Yeah, yeah. Let us know. Dave, do you want to thank some people? Hey, I would love to thank from Gilliston Heights in New South Wales, James Horn.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's good. Oh, yeah. James Horn, traveling on a unicorn. Oh, that's good james horn traveling on a unicorn oh that's good and there obviously the regiment is called the flippity flops flippity flops here comes horn on his unicorn flippity flop flop flop horny boys i don't know why they say that but they just do horny boys they just do it just works boys. They just do.

It just works. They just amp themselves up. You know, they're going into battle. Another person from possibly the Fortress of the Moles. I wonder if they know Simon Telford. This is Michael Pruitt. Michael Pruitt. Who knew it was Michael Pruitt?

Michael Pruitt. Jess, what did he come in on again? Drones. Drones. Drones. Drones. But drones are obviously fairly small, so he's actually on all fours. And he's got a drone under his head. And a drone on his feet. The ominous sound they hear before they get a Pruitt attack is.

That's funny. They're called Pruitt Patrol. Pruitt Patrol. That's funny. And they're called Pruitt Patrol. Pruitt Patrol. That's nice. I'm on Pruitt Patrol. That's good. Because there's four pilots. Yeah.

Yeah, that's right. The drones are being flown independently. They have to communicate really well. Left. No, not that far left. Yeah. Thanks, Michael. And finally, I'd like to thank from North Bay in Canada,

this is Catherine McCaskill. Oh, great name, Catherine McCaskill. Thanks, Catherine McCaskill. Catherine McCaskill. Fantastic. A big ball of cats taped together. And is Catherine inside or on top or like sort of like walking on it? That's awesome.

That's a powerful way to enter a battle and then at any moment katherine can release the cats and as you know dave very powerful oh my god cats nothing can stop them certainly not the sun they got that that ominous sound Thank you so much to Catherine, Michael, James, Tommy, Simon, Sam, Greg, James, and Shannon. The last thing we'd like to do is welcome a few people into our triptych club, a very exclusive club, a club that you can only enter and you cannot leave. only enter and you cannot leave and the way you get in is by being on the shout out level or above at patreon.com slash dugongpod for three straight years uh it's a bit of theory of the mind what's going on here bob what's going on what's happening what is what is this what's going on what's happening here someone out there is listening for the first time and they're going i don't know what this fever dream is well it's an exclusive club where it's a members-only club.

You can come in, you can have a drink, there's food, there's a bar, there's a dance floor, there's showers. There's so many different seating options. And you're normally behind the bar and you normally create a cocktail based on the names. What's the Night Witch cocktail? Night Witch is black. So what, Sambuca or something?

Oh, yeah. I'm liking it early. It's a pint of Sambuca. Wow, a pint. I'm not done. It's also got purple glitter inside it. Okay. And it's garnished with a little witch on a broomstick figurine.

Are these edible? No. So you're just sipping on a pint of Sambuca. Yeah. Black Sambuca. Black Sambuca. Wow. I don't hate it.

Can we light it up? No. And Dave, you normally book a band for the after party? Yeah. Well, it's not just a band tonight. It's an experience. We've got the entire cast of Witches in Britches, the Melbourne theatre restaurant dropping by to entertain us.

Are they still active? I thought I heard that they might have gone out of business. Well, they're coming back for one night only. Yeah, I've given them a job. I think it does say first sale when you drive past. Yeah, their most recent show was, because they do these parody shows of big movies and stuff, and the last one I remember seeing a few years ago was called crazy rich witches

a parody of crazy rich asians but they the word that rhymed with witches yeah but they couldn't do crazy witch agents could they they have a word that rhymes with it they probably have to recast yeah so i don really, I think that was a good call of them not to do that. At least they had some self-awareness to go, maybe that's inappropriate. Yeah, but why pick that movie? Because that's like a big part of the movie. And that movie has nothing to do with witches.

Absolutely nothing. Not at all. It's a rom-com. Well, that wasn't my problem with it, but I think... Oh, okay, I've misread what you're talking about uh and yeah so i'm standing at the door i've got the names of five inductees this week episode 369 nice um and so i'm going to read out the names dave's up on the stage he's emceeing uh you know obviously he'll later on hand over to the cast of Witches and Britches.

Please give it up for Witches and Britches. And he's going to hype you up one by one, get the crowd really going. Jess is looking after Dave. Dave's hype man. So she'll sort of keep him on the straight and narrow. But anyway, let's get into it. Here are this week's inductees into the Triptych Club. Come on, Dave.

Here we go. If this is your first time, this is high-octane entertainment. Yeah, this is the good shit. There are flame cannons going off. You've put up with an hour and a half of a wobbly, wobbly, wobbly. This is the good stuff. This is the show. Here we go.

The pre-game entertainment is over. Woo! Get ready to rumble. Here we go. From Address Unknown, can only assume from deep within the fortress of the moles, it's Tim Little. Nothing little about this guy.

Yes, he's a big man. From Yuma, Arizona in the United States, it's Smokey's Videos. Smokey dokey, am I right? He's right. From Hodgton in Georgia in the United States, it's Colin Hitzges. Oh, the Hitzges just keep on coming. There's probably silent letters in there.

Shut up, keep going. From Moura in Queensland, Australia, it's Lisa Yao. Yeah, more like Lisa Yao. And from Missagua. Missisagua. Missisagua. From Missisagua in Ontario, Canada, it's Laura Sinclair. Mississauga.

Welcome in. Let's hear it for Laura, Lisa, Colin, Smokies, and Tim. Make yourselves at home. Grab yourself an ottoman or other chair. Have a sit. Have a sit. Get ready for the entertainment have a sip as well on that big pint of yeah i would just sip out that one oh it's a sipper i don't

think i'm very good at this at least you didn't book the cast of witches and britches i'm really thinking about moving Dave on. Someone's got to give him work. No, I think it's great. I think it's fantastic. I never went there, but as a kid, I always loved driving past there. What was the other one? The one that was near Sin?

Dracula. I've been to Dracula's once before because a girl I worked with at the time had a bit of a crush on one of the guys. One of the Draculas. One of the Draculas. One of the Draculas. So we went. And you know what? It wasn't bad.

What did you see? Crazy rich Draculas? It's so funny that Melbourne used to be a hotspot for theatre restaurants. And now I don't think we have any left. A hotspot by two? No, apparently there were 32 when Tony Martin moved to Melbourne. 32? Yeah.

No way. Which would have been in the 80s. So it was like boom time for... That's awful. I heard that on a recent episode of The Little Dumb Dumb Club. Right, okay. Tony Martin and Sean McAuliffe as guests. Holy shit.

Dave, why don't you ever get us guests like that? Yeah, come on, Dave, you piece of shit. What's wrong with witches and bridges? You can book anyone. The Little Dumb, Dave, you piece of shit. What's wrong with witches and britches? You can book anyone. Their little dum-dum club actually get the people. You can just make it up. Oh, okay, fine. We'll get my car off next week.

No, it's too late. No, too late. Now we've had to ask for it. It's not the same. Well, that brings us to the end of the episode. Anything we need to tell people, Jess, before we go? That they can suggest a topic over on dogoonpod.com. You can also find merch, links to live shows,

and find out about all of our other podcasts that we do. And you can find us on social media, dogoonpod, as well. Dave, boot at home. Hey, we'll be back next week with the second most voted for topic for Blockbustertober 2022. We'll be back then. But until then, I'll say thank you so much for listening and goodbye. Bye.

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