Two In The Think Tank - 37 - The Dyatlov Pass Incident

Episode Date: July 6, 2016

In January 1959, ten Russian students go on a hiking trip, deep into the Ural Mountains. But something mysterious will interrupt their trip and cause them to suddenly flee their tent in the middle of the night, barefoot into absolutely freezing conditions. This mystery is our most requested topic ever.Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. I've been told to take it away ladies and gentlemen, hello and welcome to do go on the podcast with myself Dave Warnocky and of course it's not just me it's also Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart Hello Gang. Hello Dave. Hi Dave, just a quick question. I mean in the form of a statement when we started out it was Dave Matt and Jess and it slowly morphed into Dave welcoming Jess and Matt. I'm just wondering what the fuck is going on with that? Well, the only thing that matters is that Dave comes first, that is all the list is wound, and I'm here for you, listener. Tell his love life operates as well. Ah, Dave comes first.

All the matters is Dave comes first. No, selfish. He's a selfish lover. But. And a Nazi sympathizer. No. Once again, one of those things is true. I'm a selfish lover. But I'm quite a good friend. So that's why I'm not going to crack it at you too. For picking on me at the start of the episode where I'm going to be doing most of the bloody talking. But apart from that, how are you both? Yeah, I'm fine.

Yeah, pretty good. Thanks Dave. That's good to be here. These are my favorite episodes, as you know, when you're giving the report. Mine too, mine too. You're my favorite reporter. Thank you. Other than Peter Hitchner, obviously, what a bloody, legitimate screen. What a great newsreader. Does he follow us on Twitter? Because he follows a lot of people. He a great newsreader. Does he follow us on Twitter?

Because he follows a lot of people. He's always been on Instagram. Does he? Mm-hmm. He's been in this very podcasting studio. Good, yeah. The hitch. The hitch, yeah.

Exciting. He's in an episode of Rusty Fragment. He once told me, tweeted me, saying he was interested in coming to my comedy show. What? I followed him on Twitter, then he followed me back, and I said, oh my goodness. So happy to have you following me.

I'm a big fan. My parents watched Chen O'Neil news. I grew up watching him every week nightly. And he tweeted back, some of my bio was like, oh, you know, new comedy festivals show. And he's like, that sounds interesting. I'll have to check the calendar, and I hope to check it out.

Oh, what a sweet man. I know, but when he didn't come I was very upset. Of course, of course. Well, I take back my sweet man statement. I also once got a We just had an election in Australia over the weekend I once got a letter from the my local member saying congratulations on doing the comedy festival. That's very cool What? Didn't bother to come along though, did you? But they said that. Who was your local member at the afflunace there?

I can't remember who it was. It was a thoth. Yes, now down. Have some absolute thoth. I imagine it was a Tory type. Well, now I live in a seat that has never not been right wing, never not been liberal. And one of the few seats.

That'll be confusing to overseas listeners. Our right wing party here is called the liberal party. That's right. And I mean, one of the few seats. That'll be confusing to overseas listeners. Our right wing party here is called the Liberal Party. That's right. And, I mean, one of the few seats that the Liberals approval rating actually went up. Wow. That's our affluent way up, baby. Ah!

Love that money. Make it a rain. Love that money. That's right, living in the shittest house on the shittest street in the nice suburb. That's why I do it? No, no, it's not. No, that's the way to do it if you own the property,

but I rent, so I'm making no long-term gains. Very good. Very good, very good on your day. Very good. Sound investment. Thank you. Thank you. Now, good on you.

Good on you, your body tough. I love that. So it was burnt up your butt. Good on you, mate. I was born with a silver spoon in my ass. That's right. Well, it's a weird thing, which people do. But silver spoons up your butt. Yeah, it's weird. Well, I mean, don't knock it until you've tried That's right. We had a weird thing which people do. But silver spoons up in that.

Yeah, it's good. Well, I mean, don't knock it till you've tried it, mate. Yeah, it's a good point. Yeah, good point. One day, you know, I'm aspirational. One day, I hope to be able to put a... An anal spoon up here. Some sort of a needing utensil up in the button and...

May I suggest a ladle? Ladle. Okay, yeah. Start with wood, make it to metal. Yeah, you want to start with the splinters, you want to get those out of the way for early. If you can do that, you've got to clear it in being rich. If you want to choose one, what would it be?

One what? One eating utensil. But you also get to decide which way it goes in. Yes. Well then you just go like a wooden spoon and just like the the handle Chopstick chopstick. I'm with you on chopsticks. I love the other chopstick. Thank you. Well, what the fuck is this conversation? I've been matches well with the topic today. Absolutely not It's not anal probes everyone else is looking at the topic, which is like, if it was last week,

it's like some full-on serial murderer. On the stats over there, a little bit of light, utensil butt plug-in. What would you put up your butt if you had the choice? Cohen now, it'll be a hashtag, but it was a hashtag. A hashtag, a gallery report. You agree, lost the gestures.

You lost that, I had it. You lost that, I had it. Well, I wasn't, you put me on the spot there, I was. Well, you think about that while we take the time to do a big shout out to all of your dads, thanks everyone that's tweeted in for hashtag my dad's name is. There's at least 15 of you, so we appreciate that a lot.

It's so great. 15 people that have dads. Yeah, congratulations on having dads. And the rest of you, well, good luck to you. We have names. What a funny thing to have happened. And yeah, no, it was really nice. Yeah, it's lovely.

It was a nice, to get to know your dad's on a first name basis. You're really awesome. All right, guys, so we're gonna get into my topic which I have taken from Matt's hat. Or it's like, it's a group's hat. I've got to stop calling it Matt's hat because he's gonna start claiming ownership.

He's gonna start locking us out. I'm gonna have to apply for Matt's hat, because he's gonna start claiming ownership, he's gonna start locking us out, I'm gonna have to apply for custody or rights to see the hat. You know what's interesting, Dave, is that the reason that we do call it Matt's hat is that he is typically wearing a hat. And today, what's missing in Matt's ensemble? He is Sans Hat.

Sans Hat for you, Matthew, and I can see your gorgeous, urban locks. Urban. Urban. Urban, thank you. That's what I put down on forms that ask me for hair color. What kind of forms are asking you for hair color? Online dating websites. That's a very good question. I can't think of a good answer. Your American driver's license. American driver's license American driver's license What hair color mask is his eye color? white When I fill out my Americans let me know if it's head donation form Hey donation would you do frequently you're you're here?

Yeah, you're out of the hairless Now there's a hashtag boy. You want to hear it to the hair list. Love it. It's beautiful. Anyway. What was the question? Well, I'm getting... You've taken the topic from the hat.

I'm taking the topic from the hat. And we always start with the question. I've got two here. First one is... Two questions. What is our most requested topic ever? This one has not one. Not two. But three listeners that have tweeted or and or emailed in saying hey, can you do this?

Really is it that one that I've I've only ever read and it includes an incident in it Possibly it include an incident it does include the word incident and so that seems to know this but just to have you I can't think it's been enough time The hat Matt he's got a memorize so it's been enough time in the hat, but Matt, he's gotten it memorized, so it's hard to pick a topic that Matt hasn't already. Well, no, that's not true, but this one because it has come up so much, I've put a lot of pizza paper dropped into the hat, thrice, next to my head loss.

Hey, rhyming, I'm back on. You're getting better. Thank you, I don't have head loss. And we've been doing lessons. I hope you know head loss. Hey rhyming back on. You're getting better. Thank you. I don't have head loss. And we've been doing lessons. I hope you know head loss. You're donating a head of ball people. Here are the hair. Here are the hair. Here are the hair loss. Is it something like Dilletov pass incident? Oh that's close. It's like this. It is. Have you you know this topic at all? Is the day at a lot of pass incident? What did I say? Dilletov, it's close enough. I mean, it's a word I'd never heard of.

I'm willing to pay it. That's great. I'll be at the front of the topic. It includes like a tent. I know that much, because I did a brief look. It includes a tent. It does that, because my follow-up question was going to be, have you ever been camping?

Yes. We camped together. I know we have. Which was only the second time I've ever no third time I've ever been camping no at that stage stage second You went camping what an interesting fact You went camping we're into the marath music festival. You should come to see it Yeah, you were I mean I mean camping a camping is probably

Glamping we were glamping well, it it's the glamping. We were glamping. Well, it's not really glamping I've never heard a glamping, but I think it's glam camping. I don't think it is glamping It's music festival camping, which means you go to bed for about two hours and drink every other moment. You're away Man, is that glamping? glamping sounds like it'd be like glittery. No, glamping's just like it's sense of glamorous camp. Yeah, it's luxurious Luxury like glam. We're off. I literally say glamorous camp. Oh Yeah, in which case. Yeah, it's luxurious luxurious like glam. I literally said glamorous Yeah, in which case. Yeah, it kind of would be right you're sleeping a motley crew Is this was it was this the incident when you

Paid so much that you got it was an 11 I see that was the third time I was the next time I'd never been camping except one time in high school We went on year 11 camp so that's probably not even proper camping. Then I went to this music festival with Matt and then the month later I went to the Falls Music Festival and that's when I set that record for the most dips in a portaleau. If you haven't heard that one, we've got is a portaleau in Australia where you piss onto a paddle and every time it gets enough weight on the paddle it dips and I did about three times as many dips as anyone else

despite being one third of their size. That's got to be it. That can't be an Australian only thing. That paddle thing is interesting. No, but I just think there's different types of portals. I mean I've even experienced different time. Hey Dave, you know how you write super long reports? I feel like we are getting bogged down. Okay, okay. So, well we'll get into this I mean, I've even experienced a different time. Hey Dave, you know how you write super long reports. I feel like we are getting bogged down. Okay, okay, okay. So, we'll get into this incident, which does involve camping and a tent while done, Matt.

But before we do that, we have to give a shout out to not one, not two but three listeners. Oh yeah, I've got a question this topic. In the order they came through, we have Dylan Burn. Dylan. At Blackburn, BYL, M Why are they at black burn on?

I think they'll and we've got a crisp brown Chris I'm gonna blacken a brown so far and Also, I thought you're gonna to make a joke, so... Steven White! I thought you were going to make the joke that it's like Chris Brown, and I was going to say it's neither the rapper nor the Bondi vet. Oh, nice. Yeah, I was going to make a Chris Brown joke. Chris Brown was in the end and he's at Ardent, under-scaled drug.

Drug, cool. I like that. Thank you, Chris. Drug cool, thank you Greta. And then, please send him white. Without a surname, which we sell dub so white, Brett white from email, Brett Whiteley, no, Brett white. Brett white, there you go Matt, you've got the whole spectrum, you're happy?

Well, I mean as far as spectrums go, we have it. It's not exactly a rainbow, is it? Brown, black and white. Yeah, we'll leave him hang in there. All right, so we're going to. Silence laughter. It is a long topic.

So thank you, Dylan, Chris and Brett, for baiting me into this. Let's get into the diatolov pass incident. So background. The year was 1959. The month was January and in Sfordlostk, there are a lot of Russian words in this, because it is in the middle of Russia, it's where the story takes place.

Then the Soviet Union, so high at the Cold War, some students from Muriel Polytechnical Institute, it's just like a uni, decided to go on a very physically challenging hiking slash ski trip and climb Mount... Want a hot to luggy? Well, it's called Mount Otorten, Mount Otorten, which in the Indigenous Mansie language that the people that live in this area, Otorten translates as, do not go there. Okay, well...

Perhaps warning sign of the incident number one. Number one, yeah, I would say, if I, if, like, if in English, if we were going to a mountain, if you guys wanted to go on a camping trip, for example, and actually invite me this time, and you were like, yes, we're gonna go camping on Mount,

stay the fuck away. I'd be like, what dates? Nah, busy. Why did they set up a musical, music festival there? So this is perhaps a warning sign, but the trip consisted of 10 people. 10 people. 8 guys, 2 girls. All very experienced hikers and skiers.

So let's meet them now. I'm going to go through and give a brief background on all 10 of these people. Should I take notes on all ten of these people? You can't have your like, because their names are Russian and often quite similar, I'm just going to refer to them as their first names. Yeah. Just otherwise, I'm going to offend a lot of Russian people.

OK. Matt just showed me his piece of paper, and he's just written his name down a lot of times. Good on you, Matt. Good. The name Matthew will not come up once. Good to have you on board. Not a very Russian name.

Matt, are you bloody listening over there? Zero. Good. Good. Great, we got him. OK, so there's 10 of them now. So the leader and the blue ninja turtle of the group. His man named Igor Dyatlov.

He's the one that this incident is named after. Oh, I see. It's the name sake. Interesting. Dyatlov passed named after Igor Dyatlov. Igor is a great name as well. So he's the one that this incident is named after. Oh, I can't. It's the name sake. Interesting. Iatalov passed named after Igor. Igor is a great name as well.

So he is the leader of the group. He was 22 years old, studying radio engineering, of which he was very gifted and even designed his own radios. Oh, hello. People who knew Igor described him as a thoughtful man who never rushed with his decisions. Apparently, he had a thing going on or was at least trying to court fellow hiker Zina. Okay so there's a possible thing going on there. He was a very experienced athlete and a planned and led many trips before.

He sounds like a total fuck. So look at it. And you can see photos of all these people and he is a bit of a fuck. 22, how you said they're all experienced, but I mean... How experienced can you be at 22? Well I think the thing is that they grew up in this very cold snowy place, so they've probably been skiing since probably before like a walk. Oh yeah so they've got a bit of toboggan experience. Much like Dave and I grew up in the affluent east, so we have plenty of experience spending

money. Spending money, that's right. With drawing money, spending money and begging our parents for more money. Yeah, daddy. That's how I do it. Daddy. Oh, daddy. Hashtag. My dad's wallet. Then we have Zina herself, who's the girl I was talking about before. Also 22. Also studying radio engineering. So they're much made in heaven. Got a lot in common. So cute.

With Igor. She was also very experienced. And as a testament to how much of a badass she was, a lot of these people are quite badass. We'll say this. During a previous trip, she was bitten by a viper, very dangerous snake. And despite her injury, refused to lighten her load.

She didn't want to increase the other stuff that her friends had to carry. So she just sold it on after being bitten by a snake. Yeah, we've all been there. Yeah, I've been there. Once I was bitten by two viapers and I said, well, actually, give me your bag, Cena, because double my load. I'm whatever. I'm fine.

I am feel better than I've ever have. And then I died But you died a noble noble man. Yeah, a noble orban haired man You got came in store you girlfriend. I will not forget my hat again This is why I don't this is why we're a hat cuz I'm sick of being teased for my orban orban hair gorgeous your bloody gorgeous wish I could pull off that color. Anyway, do go on. I wish I had hair. Donations come.

Yeah, please, man, please, you grow on it for me, right? Other lady in the group was called Liode Miller. Less cool than Zayn. Liode Miller. 21 years old, studying engineering and economics, double major. Liode. His Miller M-I-L-A. All part of the name? Yeah, so this is just the first name. Lairod. L-Y-U-D. L-Y-U-D. Lairod Miller. Also a god damn badass and not wanting to be outdone by Zina's

or Matt's two fiber entries. On a previous trip she had suffered a gunshot wound. Someone was cleaning their gun and accidentally shot her. Well you know what? One time when I was talking, someone was cleaning two guns. Have I told you this before? Yeah you said it on episode two. Oh sorry. No but new listeners, please continue the story.

What happened after you two guns that were being cleaned? But they were made safely, I imagine. Yeah, they cleaned them really good. Great Sean out of them Yeah, it was actually was really good. I'd remember that day well for just how clean those guns were And we all we all got to the peak of the mountain safely Interesting. Yeah, great. Oh, and also a fuck the snake What a pullback and reveal I don't think even he knew this words were gonna come out of his mouth surprise myself Apparently was in good spirits and mate good spirits and made jokes about it the whole way home. I would fucking make that guy carry my bag.

Hey, do you remember when you shot me? Yeah, I think first round on you at the pub. Yeah, he definitely has a bit of bullets. This is crisp. We have Alexander. Classic name. 25 studying physics. Before going to back to study after school he had worked with metal and worked in a secret institute for the Ministry of Medium Machine Building.

Medium Machine Building? Hey, can you build a machine for me? How big is it? It's pretty large. No, sorry, not qualified. No, just something really small. No. We'll not touch it. Don't denigrate me. Don't offend me. No, it's just something really small. No, I will not touch it. Don't denigrate me. Don't offend me by asking me to build a microwave. Because what do you go to walks of a machine build? It's going well. Yeah, very good.

Thank you. Is he being shot or bitten? No, but the building, the Ministry of Medium machine building, it was called known because it was a secret. I know this is the USSR. It was merely known by a serial number. I work at 3394. Cool.

Let's cool them being bitten off shot. He was also a ski instructor. Oh, that's a bit sexy. Pretty cool. How do you know where Lyle would was shot, like wearing her body? I don't know. What do you want to get guess?

I'd say probably not face. Yeah, I'm guessing something good. I know like vital organ probably probably like top top edge of the arm. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Here's another question. Where would you choose to be shot if you could? Someone's got a gun that said million bucks. Where would you take the bullet? I reckon through like. Oh, you're pointing to your stomach. I'm thinking like, you know, if you get a void, any bones or organs is where you want. So you're pointing to your stomach. I'm thinking of like, you know, if you get a void, any bones or organs is where you want.

So you're pointing to where your kidneys are. Yeah, I'm just like the very edge. I'll be like this and go shoot that. Man, he's pulling out his skin just above his hip. Just shoot through that. And then I'll chuck up what he banded out. And we'll get on with this. It still hurt. I, for- Oh, it hurt.

For the recovery time. I'm thinking what would like, what wouldn't, say, if I got shot in the leg for example, then you couldn't move or you couldn't walk or that comfortably. So maybe arm, but right arm, because I'm left handed, I don't know if I've mentioned that at all on this podcast ever before. Yeah, I've been a little while. Yeah, haven't. Um, dang.

It's really, I don't know, like everything, I am just bone, so there's no way to avoid one. I can't pull out a bit of skin on the side and sell them to shoot it. All right, gee, sorry. An old tub, so yeah. But like everything, like I look even, I'm like, oh, maybe my hand, and I'm like, oh, no, maybe. Because that wouldn't heal very well, and then you wouldn't be able to use that hand. I'm trying to think of what will heal quickly and not do any damage. I'm gonna go upper arm.

Upper arm, yeah, just off the edge there. Yeah. What do I do? What about um, I don't know, I don't know. I want to get um, to my earlobe and I want the bullet really small. Oh yeah. Earing size.

You look so dumb with an earring though. Yeah, if I should probably take it. I'm not like, I should, I could pick today with a little... Don't want to be stud. No, even worse, like a pirate earring, like a really big one. I've never done that. Even worse than a little diamond earring, isn't it? Alright, back to the crew. We got a couple more to go.

Playing the mandolin and providing the soundtrack to the trip. This is me on this trip, isn't it? You're so off with your little ukulele. Yeah. mandolin and providing the soundtrack to the trip. This is me on this trip, isn't it? You so are. With your little ukulele. Yeah. Was Rustam, R-U-S-T-E-M, Rustam. He's 24 and the son of a wealthy professor and the character that I associate myself with because of the wealth. I Rustam, R-U-S-T-E-M, but I... The reason I... Because I feel like he's probably one of the most useless.

That's why I was like, yeah, this is me. Oh yeah. Oh, but I go my mandolin, you guys. Oh, fuck off, Rustam. Which was a treasured item on the, on the journey. It was a source of a lot of the entertainment was singing their own songs. Oh, good night, pod. Yeah, good.

Do we know when this is? 1959. Yeah. I heard it down because I wasn't writing Matt Stewart all over the piece of paper What was at the second or third generation of the iPod came out like Christmas come on? 959 Also on the trip was Yuri K Oh yes, I love the name Yuri Yuri while working in a secret nuclear facility. He experienced a disaster that became known as the

While working in a secret nuclear facility, he experienced a disaster that became known as the Kush-Tum-Koi accident. It was the third and still it's the third most serious nuclear accident ever recorded behind the Fukushima disaster and Chernobyl that we've spoken of. Yuri K was one of the people sent to clean it up. He had recently graduated from the university so that's just before he went back to uni, he cleaned up nuclear stuff. Then we have Yuri D. Oh, is it two Yuri's? He's the second of three Yuri's. Oh yes. How many people I'm suddenly aboard with this list. Is there many of these to go? There's like two more after this. Oh, fuck. That's hungry. I'm trying to paint a bloody picture here. Yeah,

will you painting a list and it's boring. Oh, there it is. I think it's great. Well, when you start writing the best reports, you can comment. We have Yuri D, second of three years. He had been dating Xena, but then he had broken up. Probably they were quite serious. He'd even met her parents, which in 1959, Soviet Union is probably a big deal. But apparently, there's still some good terms, despite the fact that the leader of the group is now hit non-unhield. He's an old lady.

So that's Uid. Third and final Uri is Yuri Yudon. I was going to call him Yuri Y, but I think Yuri Yudon is such a great name that I want to call him that. Yeah. Yuri Yudon. At a great name that I want to call him that. Yeah. Yuri Yudan. At 22, he was a fourth-year student who had a few physical and medical problems, of which we'll talk about later. Talk about that later.

Problems, problems. Problem child. Yuri Yudan. Problem child, okay. And our tenth and final member of the exhibition, who at 37, was much much, much older than the rest and the most mysterious of the group. Oh no, this guy killed him all. And without a doubt. And most definitely, that's what happens. Some of the bads gonna happen, there's an incident.

I bet the old man, oh wait, he hasn't fucking old, hasn't he? Oh, Dave. Well, I'm about to tell you, he has the most videos, he has the best name of the group. It is a fucka mold. Well, it's apparently pronounced Semen, but it's spelled Semen, S-E-M-E-N. Semen. That's 30 what? 30. So 12 is out of the closest one. Because before, I think it was Alexander who was 25 and I was like, oh, 30 what? 37. So 12 is out of the closest one. Because before, I think it was Alexander who was 25 and I was like, oh, older so far.

I'm so far. Now we got Seaman. Seaman on the wing. What is Seaman? I've got a bad feeling about Seaman. Let me put those at ease. He's a native of the North Caucasian, Cuban, Cossacks, who survived the great patriotic war, which is what Russians called World War II.

He served for five years. Survival rate for people born in his generation and went to the front was 3%. Wow. So he's a fit, and he was fighting for five years. He was a very, very lucky man. Oh my goodness. Oh, slash talented. For an amazing fighter.

He had many tattoos hidden around his body, which was quite different for the time. And he's a bit of a tough guy. OK, oh, I kind of like seeing him. Yeah, look, I've come around to Seaman as well. I think I'm on my board. I first hated Seaman, but now I'm all about Seaman. Yeah, I can get around Seaman.

I'm not going to comment on him much. Comment on Seaman? Yeah, I'm not going to comment on Seaman. Okay, now we're going to go, so that's the least mad I'm sorry, that was so boring for you. Well, it was a good chance to have a little nap. Did it pick up at the end when I told you that Seaman was great. Seaman saved the best for last.

Honestly, when you got into a basic, you were listing people named Yuri for a while. So I mean when it came back to Simon I was back on. I just wanted to imagine this group of cool young people plus Simon. And so I'll just give a background of what they were doing. I've got you to visualize, I've got to get you to visualize where this is. So if you're imagine Russia, which as we all know is huge, the biggest country in the world, the region we're talking about huge, the biggest country in the world The region we're talking about is about three quarters of the way west

So you go towards Europe. Yep above Kazakhstan and about halfway up the map of Russia So it's on the edge of Siberia, which is pretty isolated and cold and I knew that I knew it was in Siberia when you said Talked about the native Mossai the mercy people Oh, do you know much about them? No, I was just I was looking them up recently one of my trivia jobs And they because there's a question about a dog named after Native Siberia. Oh, that's really cool. Do you know how I knew it was near Siberia? At the point in the sentence where Dave said it's near Siberia. Near the border of Siberia. That's where I was like, hang on.

I reckon this might be near Siberia, but that's just my geography knowledge, so. That's right. Remember when you guys didn't know where the Middle East was? I still don't. This is not that far from there. I mean, the middle, it is a tricky thing. Middle East Central Asia. And what else was there?

The Middle East. I, yeah, good. My geography is slightly better than Jess's. Slantly. But you know what this is? It's sort of, well, I've got a, I'm at, you get you do imagine pretty much. It's in the middle of Russia, in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah. What's the closest city we've had? Siberia I'm glad you answered that before you had the question. I did Well, it's a long way away from like Moscow and St. Petersburg, which is all on the west right on the west Yeah, okay, yeah, and it's just like you'd have to drive for a couple of days together I think you're explanation before was excellent. It made me visualize it. I got it And now I know and even me being awful at geography. You know where they are. I get it. I could find them is what I'm saying. Give me a helicopter, I'll go find them. They lost. Please teach me to fly

helicopter and then I'm done. Now you know where they are. I know where they are. The next question is what motivates a group of kids to go out into the elements of harsh winter, by the way it's winter time. On the edge of Siberia and the middle of nowhere and the answer is that all members of a uni sport club. Okay. So they're... Well, there's your first mistake.

And they'll refer to as tourists. Don't ever get involved in uni clubs. In the uni clubs of any kind. Or sports. Do what I did. Make one friend at university. The 37 year old man named Seaman. Seaman. Oh!

Justin Seaman had a lot of great times at uni. Well, I might maybe that was just me. Oh no, oh no no no. This is going to get awful. Now, so the group is, the people that go on hikes in Russia at the time are referred to as two wrists. Oh, so the group is the people that go on hikes in Russia at the time are referred to as two wrists. Oh, okay. It's not like what we imagine the word means, it's just people that go on these crazy big hikes. The route in February, which is when they were going to go off, was estimated

as a category three, which is the most difficult kind of route you can go on. I don't understand why this is fun for people. Challenge yourself Jess. Well they were doing it to get a Masters of Sport certificate. I don't know. I've mastered a clocked sport. Yeah it's pretty much the you mastered sport everybody. You got to do this crazy big journey and then you come back, you approved that you did it and then the uni goes great. Here's the certificate. Now maybe you can be a teacher of this, I don't know. Did you did a whole episode about clocking Everest?

Not too long ago It's the same thing but kids and Siemens I'm not saying it was a good idea of theirs Okay, I'm not a fan of it's cold in Melbourne at the moment and we're in a studio And I feel like we're kind of heroes for podcasting in these conditions, okay Last week I was wearing gloves My nose is really cold right now, but I'm a fucking hero is what I'm saying. Troopin' on.

I'm a trooper. I'm just saying these people... Do troopin'. Do troopin'. These people had an option to just stay inside and play chess. Daves over there cleaning guns and that's not stoppin' ya. I'm fuckin' at snake over here and you seem to be non-plus. Non-plus.

Anyway, please Dave, do go on. I'll stop getting angry at innocent children. So their target is to get to the top of Mount Rotten. Want to rock the lugee. Don't go there, that mountain. Yeah, Mount, which is a day to fuck away from here. It is a 1,1234 meter mountain, which I enjoy that 1,234. Yeah, that's pretty good, actually.

I like that one two three four Yeah, it's pretty good actually I like that The previous year Diathlon himself Igor had led a different group on these very similar route if not the same route So when they left they're pretty confident the junior go for that hitch had seeming been on that route There was no seeming on the previous route. It was a dry route Root means boning in Australia. Oh, yeah Oh yeah, I think that's a thing anyway. Money was tight for the group although they've been given some money by the university to do the trip.

And their daddies. And their daddies? Well, only one of them, the son of the professors, Rich everyone else, I think is pretty working class. Rustam. Well, I say working class, I mean, it's Soviet Union, so everyone earns the same, right? They packed as much food and supplies as they could, including 3 kg of salt, which to me sounds like a lot of salt.

And I remember this isn't 1990's Turkmenistan where salt is free. It's Communist Russia. I imagine salt costs quite a lot. What are they using salt for? They use salt to snow? Yeah, I was going to say, oh my god, my god. If I learn anything from home alone, is that the scary old man's salt's driveways

for some reason? I think it stops there, cause salt melts. It's no, but I don't, I said it's a lie, but I think you're gonna need a lot more than the reculose to melt the ural mountains. Maybe it's just to, like, when they're setting up their tents or something.

Or just cleaning their driveway of the new tent. Their first property. Yeah. Put up your little driveway in your litter box. Yeah. Well, it's how people send you notes. Everywhere they go, they set up a litter box.

Oh, that'd be cute. No junk mail. Hey, something that's been troubling me is that you gave ego the title of blue turtle and no one else other. No, I'm not. It's because, if you remember, we're back to the first episode, the blue turtle is my favorite and the only, I'm Matt. It's because if you remember, we'll be back to the first episode.

The blue turtle is my favorite and the only one I care about. Okay. Well, I'm gonna say that... No, no. You had to go in for making the list. Alright, so Donald's Hello is Yuri. And then you're fucking out of the list.

Donald's Hello is Yuri K. Michael Andrews, Yuri Y. And Yuri Yudon can be Raphael. Great, done. Now, did he? He's the one who's a little bit... Yeah, he's not for... Can Tancorous. His body is not up to the journey. Oh, done. Now, that's it. He's the one who's a little bit. He's not for...

Can Tankerus. His body is not up to the journey. Oh, no, is that... Are you like... Oh, you're foreshadowing. You're foreshadowing. Thank you, I couldn't think of the word foreshadowing. I may be foreshadowing though, maybe throwing out the old red herring for a purple Donatello

herring. So now they've got to get there. All the information in the next part is based on Diaries, the group kept. Oh, dear Diary. Dear Diary. Wait, are you saying that there was no... If it was all Diaries, does that mean no one was able to... Tell the story of the other side.

No, that's just publics their Diaries afterwards. They... It is... I will say, now we're going to get into the episode. It's... It's another mystery, baby. Oh no! It's all the mystery. Are we going to be just frustrated and unsatisfied at the end? Possibly.

Damn it! Oh, maybe we're going to solve it here tonight. Yeah, we've done that in the past. We've done that. We've solved many mysteries. Well, excuse me to... So they set off on January 25th, 1959, leaving their town. They traveled north by train and then they got on a bus. Then they had to hire a truck

before they're hiking and skiing could begin. Another guy called Nikolai Pappov, who had already graduated, uni was supposed to meet them on the first train, but he missed it. And I will say, for a shout out again that this was a stroke of luck for Pappov. On the train, the group had mused themselves with the music of the mandolin and C-man, the older man, that no one knew that well, so he was just an extra person. He was going to go on a journey with other people, but for some reason that journey didn't go ahead, so he asked I had to love if he could come along. And at first, they were a bit wary of this older man, but he impressed them all because

he knew songs on the mandolin that they'd never heard before, he's a bit old, he's been to the wall, and you got to remember that this is the government. He's the Liam press. No, I was going to say that- Oh, you can play songs I've never heard of. That's not impressive. Well, I've got to say the government of the time wouldn't let people listen to radio and music, so that's the only songs that you play yourself.

That's all the entertainment you got. All right, I'm impressed. Okay. I've come around. It's the only form of you play yourself. That's all the entertainment. All right, I'm impressed. I've come around. It's the only form of entertainment. And they could watch. That is impressive. Look at what some black-and-white movies.

At one of the stations, Yuri K. was grabbed by a policeman for singing and disturbing the piece of other passengers. Classic Yuri K. It's kind of like the 1950s communist equivalent of that annoying person on the train that plays music out loud on their iPhone And he was nearly arrested for it But he was eventually let go talked his way out of it and the group continued on Now the area they were traveling through had many military facilities and prison camps So I was not surprising security was pretty tight

At the halfway point that a whole day to kill in between trains pretty tight. At the halfway point that a whole day to kill in between trains, Yuri Yuden was in charge of the diary and he hoped that they could kill time by visiting a local factory. When they share in the diary. Yeah, so every day they each take it in turns and they sign off and they write little notes. It is very cute. But he was like, guys, we've got a whole day.

We've got to check out a factory. Well that's kind of like what communist, like he's because he's a hardcore communist. Tell me it was a box factory. Well, I'm really sorry to disappoint you and Yuri Yuden, because what they did to past time was run training drills. Also what communist did for fun. Oh my god. And at midday they visited a local school, so Yuden didn't know it.

Why? What was the point in visiting the school? Oh my God. And at midday they visited a local school, so you didn't know if you ever went to a... What was the point in visiting the school? Well, they were... Seaman probably wanted to just be near some kids. Well, they were near a lot of kids, because in a very cramped room, they gave a lecture of what they were doing to all the kids. Why?

The kids were a bit... Every hour, I love this sentence, makes sense now. The kids were a bit apprehensive of Seaman. So they were scared of the older guy, but they particularly loved Zina. And after two hours, the kids didn't want him to leave. So they did this two hour story, because the kids are pretty fascinated

they're going on this journey. They told him what they were doing and all the details. But the kids liked them so much that the whole school accompanied them to the station to see them off. Oh my God. So you probably got a couple hundred kids. Bye!

Bye, Seaman! See you later, Seaman. them off. Oh my god. If I've got a couple hundred kids, bye, bye, Simon. See you later, Simon. But it got a bit awkward at the station, though, when the group, when the group, what they describe as a local alcoholic, this is in the diary, a local alcoholic, accused them of stealing his wallet. So for the second time in a day, the police came down. The group were clear to have any wrongdoing and they got on the train to go. Although it must have been weird for the kids like they're waving off their heroes and then the police have to come down. They all get arrested. What's going on? We're semen and zina going. On their 5.5 hours train trip, the group had quote, garlic bread and no water.

Okay, well you had me. You had me garlic bread, but I would want some sort of beverage I don't know why they didn't they commented they had didn't have water. What drink would you have to go with garlic bread? Garlic bread Um probably and probably like a lot red wine maybe like a pino noir Oh, no you talking great choice. I was gonna, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,. I know, I know a few men to win, shun.

And his songs you've never heard. If you catch my drift. Oh, they got to their destination, V-Shay, after a bus trip. And I love the tone of their diary. Quote, slept in a so-called hotel. Two people per bed. Alexander and Yuri slept on the floor between beds. Work up at 9 a.m.

Everyone sleep well, despite the fact we did not completely close the small window and the room got a bit cold because the outside temperature is minus 17 degrees Celsius. Great. Who forgets to close the window when it's minus 17 outside? That's how used to the cold these kids are. And you know how I was complaining about how it's cold here?

I'm just playing at my weather app. At the moment in Melbourne it is 11 degrees Celsius. And I'm like it's bloody freezing. That's pretty cold. So imagine this were the minus 28 and you keep the sleep with the window open. Can you tell us what 11 is in Fahrenheit? No.

Cool. Dude. So minus 17 in Fahrenheit is 1.4 degrees. Oh, that's not so great. It's quite cold It's very cold and then what's what's just is what's our current temperature in Fahrenheit for our friends? Sorry, I think man. You've misunderstood. It's minus 17 degrees Celsius Which in Fahrenheit is 1.4? Yeah So all the temperatures I'm to read out are in Celsius. Sorry Americans.

So, what would you Google it? I think you're an absolute... 11 degrees is 51 degrees Fahrenheit. So that's what we've got right now, and they had one degree Fahrenheit. Now they had breakfast at the hotel, and Diathlon said, if the tea is cold, then go out and drink it on the street, then it will be hot. What? Because it's so cold outside that even if you've got a cold tea, if you go outside for

one minute. Okay, so here's the leader of the group, that's a joke. That's a joke, yeah. And you wrote that joke down, so yeah, obviously, like, he's on jokes. No, he did not write it down. We wanted a weirdo. Jess, can we go through your notebook? Nope.

The straighter man. Dear diary, and the podcast tonight, I had a classic zigger. The next part of the journey was on the back of an open flatbed truck. It's just like ACDC and their classic film clip, Long Way to the Top, which was filmed in the streets of the Melbourne CBD. Yes. Great. Glad Matt's finding a way to, you know, to get out of the kids. You're a play school voice.

I don't know what that was. I liked it. Thank you. So on the back of an open truck, which is kind of crazy, because they're exposed to the freezing elements for three hours. So it's in this minus 17 degrees. Although they're very roughed up, it was understandably brutally cold. The group tried to keep their spirits up with more mandolin songs. And he did discussion about love and their frustration about the lack of cure for cancer. It's all in the diary. What? It's in the diary.

So they're talking about love and the cure for cancer. No, fair enough. What's your favorite mandolin song? That got to be that R&M one. Yeah, it's the only one I can think of. We too. Losing my religion. Great. Yeah, me too. Wow, unanimous. Don't wanna, alright. Tribotidious hottest 100 mandolin songs of all time. They probably have done that list.

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which were exacerbated by the freezing temperatures. So his body is not doing too well. He's only 22 years old and he's got back and leg problems. Yeah, he's got like a history of it. Oh, he's the one who's got problems. He's got problems in his mind and his body. Oh, they stayed in another hostel. The next day they made an agreement with the locals to hire a guide and a horse to get them to their next stop, which was an abandoned settlement. What was a horse's name? Yuri. What a weird coincidence. It was a fourth Yuri in the gang. Yuri horse. That was how they told my part. The word.

Yuri K. Yuri K. You're looking at the horse again mate. I'm sorry. Sorry. He looks as him. So they're staying in an abandoned settlement which is a little bit scary. A little bit scooby-doo again.

It's been used by geologists. Just. When they were working the remote area but it was no longer occupied so it's pretty much scary, a little bit scooby-doo again. It's been used by geologists. Just regees! When they were working the remote area but it was no longer occupied so it's pretty much an abandoned cabin in the woods. Cool. That seems like just trying to place. I'd like to be honest. Trying to get the spook factor going on here. Of the 25 buildings in the settlement only one wasn't falling down so it was very lucky they were able to find it because by the time they got there it was dark, very very cold.

They started a fire to keep warm, another quote from the diary. Several people pierced their hands with old nails. Everything is good. Then the horse came. We were talking and throwing jokes till three o'clock in the morning. What are you doing? It's very disjointed diary. Several people pierced their hands.

Everything is good. Then the horse came. Then the horse came. Oh I got a lot. Where did the horse come from? Matthew. Are you re-yudin? I was getting worse and by now. Wait, you re-yudin is the horse, right? No, that's re-horses. Oh sorry. You know that, Jis. Oh, you re-yuddon, the man, not the horse. Was getting worse, and by now I develop sciadica, not even the horse edit. Oh, he's having a good chuckle about this poor man's poor... What sciadica?

There's a medical condition of pain going down the leg... Oh, we're back. Everyone knows that. Thanks for asking. Oh, that's not good. He decided he would not be able to continue and he had to head home. That sounds like a stroke of luck. At the time the girls in particular were very sad to see Yuri go. Why?

Because they say sad. Was he one of the hot ones? Yeah. And there's actually like a, well now a very sad photo of them hugging him goodbye And he would be the only one of the ten people to ever be seen alive again Just through that in there to try and build the suspense. Well, no, you haven't Well, no to build the one near your suspense. We like what happened? What's gonna happen? Yeah, but now I know they're all gone They're gonna die. I think you gets that away. Yeah, Jesus.

Not Yuri Yudon. In his later, in a later interview, Yudon Yudon, Yuri, mentioned an interesting dialogue between Diatlova and one of the locals. He didn't hear the whole conversation, but he got the general idea that the local man warned Igor about something mysterious coming up. Igor brushed it off the warning, but it seemed that it really pissed him off.

When Yuri approached him and asked, hey, what did I say to you? Do I have simply answered that they will decide which path to take once they get to the river? Yuri thought this was strange as Do I have planned the journey weeks before? So he felt like something that the local had said and rattled him a bit. So they... And the local that he was talking to, that was the horse. That was your horse. Right. Right, okay I get that. I wasn't fully following but now that I know that was a horse. The horse was like don't go out there and your and and Eagle was like nah I'm gonna. Yeah I like it. I like it I like eagles attitude me too you re you didn't had gone home now but so the

next day was the first day of the hike that sounds brutal though now you just go and we can start the fun fun hike the groups got on their skis and started their trek. There was less snow than the year before, and they often had to stop and scrape the melting snow from their skis. So to point the fact that it was like minus 17, it's melting a bit.

I don't really get that, but there you go. They spent their first night together in the tent and sat around the campfire outside, again talking about love. Oh, yeah. But this time, Cancer was not mentioned. Weird, weird. Nobody wanted to sleep next to the portable stove in the tent. And to his annoyance, Yuri Kay was voters the one who should. There's a diary quote.

Yuri moves to the second compartment with terrible cursing and accusation that we betrayed him. For a world Yuri Kay. Why does anyone stay next to it? It sounds like be more warmer and what are we to be voted as the person who should do it the most? Yeah, it's not really it's more like a volunteer volunteer or a shorter straw kind of We all sorry, mate. We all voted on it and it makes the most sense for some reason. We like you We don't like you. Mm-hmm. It all adds up. Yeah Yeah, that's weird everyone point pointed whoever you think should go in. Oh, you guys pointed at me! Yep, you're Eurekae getting the tent.

Fuck, getting the stove. Sexists. Well, so I can always play that card, which is good. I was picturing that we're going to point around in the circle, but it just didn't work out the way. When you guys got each other. We just pushed each other. You left me with nowhere to go.

Other tourists, I enjoy calling them that. continue their journey for the next few days, everything goes off without much of a hitch. It's very cold but they are prepared and used to it. Dairy, weather, temperature in the morning is between minus 17 and minus 13 during the day. At night, it is minus 26 degrees. Oh, nope. Which, perkins is out. We're selling the salt-earsers. It is minus 26 degrees. Oh, nope. Which... Perkins is out. We're selling the Celtesus.

Yeah, Celcius. So for our American listeners, that is minus 15 at night. Perkins is out. I'm not doing it. Nope. You're calling it? I'm... You're back with Yuri.

You should... Yeah, you should just ride Yuri Uden home. I don't think he's back in the old house. Oh, the horse? Sorry, the horse has got the bed back. That's Yuri Hors, not Yuri Yudan. Well, this is getting very confusing. Why do we decide to have a fourth Yuri? Well, from now on, we'll only refer to each other as Yuri.

It's like the Rook Namra all over again. Everybody's Yuri. Everybody's Yuri. Everybody's Yuri. Busy Yuri. Not the Yuri. Yuri. The Yuri. Are you talking to me? No, I was talking to Yuri. The horse? Oh no. That's my dad's name.

That was a nice little sketchy day there, Dave. Thank you. Thank you very much. You studied drama, I can tell. Yes, I did. But according to their diary even on a very cold day with low visibility they walked about one and half kilometers per hour. That's pretty slow. It is pretty slow. But maybe fast in the snow. The average person walks around four ks an hour. But that's slow. So that's on the worst the worst day when visibility is terribly can barely see in front of your face

They're really not moving far though. That night on January 35th That night on January 35th they are too cold to dig a pit for the fire as the snow cover is four feet or 1.2 meters thick So it's quite deep so they just Yuri Can you guys hear how they got this? quite deep so they just... Yuri? Can you guys hear how they're called? Yes! Look! The helicopter's name... Is also Yuri?

It's very confusing. You did ask for a helicopter before Jess, maybe that's it just arriving now. I did, I'll go find them! Oh yeah! I know exactly where they are. They just are beer-y. Yeah, they're just about halfway up Russia.

Yeah, I kept them where we're going. Three quarters of the way. Three quarters of the way. The way. Three quarters of the way. The way. The way. That's about halfway near Siberia.

You know. It's in the U-R-E mountains. It's in the U-R-E mountains. It's in the U-R-E mountains. It's in the U-R-E mountains. So instead of doing a fire that night, they just eat and spend the night in the tent. I didn't do a fire. Do a fire.

He's been camping three times. He writes 4,700 words on a topic and some of those words that do a fire. Do a fire. I was ad living that which shall never happen again. They didn't do a fire. Okay, I was ad living that which shall never happen again They didn't do a fire. Don't never never blame the script. Please At this time of year the whole the whole episode has scripted by the world it reading at this time of year it gets dark about 5 p.m Same in Melbourne. Right now. Right now, it's not every day for you. On this day, I'd eGorda out of love.

Also, status some supplies high in a platform on a tree to make their ascent easier. They, including the mandolin. Oh. They leave it. Those behind. Which is like their treasured position. But.

Did you just feeling Birkenwills? They're hoping to collect these supplies on their return journey. So it's easier to get up the hill or the mountain I should say when they come down, they grab everything. I'm gonna guess. Just like Birkenwils. They didn't collect those items. The next day, February 1st, the group continue on and only cover about four kilometers for the whole day or 2.5 miles. They set a tent around 5 p.m. on a slope of Colat They set a tent around 5 p.m. on a slope, slope of Colette Siackel. That's terrible.

But which is about 10 miles away from their final destination, which is Mount Autortern. Don't go there, but Colette sickle the mountain that I can't pronounce. Its name translates as dead mountain or mountain of the dead. Susley, why are you going there? Where would you have gone, Jess? What mountain? Nusa. Mount Nusa.

Somewhere sunny. I would have gone Mount. Mount Queensland. Mount Queensland is our own guy. Mount, Mount. That's where you will return from. Hold on, Mount comfortable walk, but not too challenging. Mount a slight uphill gradient, is what I would.

But pretty views at the top, that's where I would go. Yeah, mount hill. Mount picnic, and there's little picnic baskets everywhere. You'd have little snacks. I like snacks. Mount first one to the top gets a million dollars in brackets, but no one else has seen it before, so you can take your time and you'll still be the first one Dave I'm not breaking again again. She was enjoying it, you could tell, but when you said dive in the name of the mountain, not to tell you your joke back, but I'm really tickled at it. Because it's like

nobody else can do it. Well, a man I wish I was true. That's very funny. Wasn't a solid minute of life like last time, but hey. Hey. You got to have goals. Exactly. You got to have benchmarks. Also on the side of this mountain of the dead, it's been speckled. So they're not supposed to be camping there.

Oh. So you've been speculated that they plan to get over the pass, you know, to the mountain and make camp for the next night on the opposite side, but because of bad weather conditions, including snow storms and which decrease their visibility, they lost their directs in a little bit and deviated west up towards the top of dead mountain. When they realized the mistake, the group decided to stop and just set up camp there on the side of the mountain rather than moving back downhill to a forested area which would have offered shelter from the elements. And it's been speculated by Yuri Yudin that Diatelov probably didn't want to lose the

altitude they'd gained like going back and then coming back the next day. Which is fair, I guess. Or he decided to practice camping on the mountain slope because they're going to need to do that eventually anyway. Sure. So it was a practice run maybe. I guess both are quite reasonable excuses. All we know is that the group will never leave that slope. What? Something happened to them. Something that people have

speculated about for decades since. What? So that was it. That's where they got to. We got to. From there we have to cut from the diary to the search. Oh shit! Oh shit! Yeah. Oh, no! I know, I was saying. It's all becoming too real. Is that because I paint such a great picture of what these people are like

by listing their names, occupations and character sense? Yes. David. Oh, maybe you love them and now I'm taking them away. Oh, my God. I mean, you said that they were probably going to die, but I still was kind of thinking you might have been playing. I thought you were going to say,

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is called that because it's such a remote place that no Plants or animals live around that area. Oh, so it's mountain of the dead because it means you can't hunt and live there Sure, so possibly that but then there's been other route. I've read other places that no It's because of mysterious stuff has happened on this mountain before. Oh, Creepy Now before leaving do I love had agreed that he would that he would send a telegram to this sports club as soon as they returned to V-Shay, that halfway point. It was expected that this would happen no later than February 12th, but Doetl-Love had told Yuri Yudin before he went back that he expected to be a little bit longer.

They're a bit behind time. The twelfth came and went, and no one immediately panicked. It's very difficult to put a date on these things. Often there are a few days off. But by the 20th of February, no one had heard anything, so the families started to worry. Obviously, what? So the head of the uni sent the first rescue groups

consisting mainly of volunteer students and teachers. Oh, shit. Very long. But when they found nothing, the army joined them and deployed search planes and helicopters. Helicopters? Yeah? Like I suggested. Like you did.

Well, I mean, get me in a bloody helicopter. I'll go find them now. So, uh, hey. Is it going to be possible, Dave? Could we get? Yeah, can we do that? Do we have the budget for that? To go and pick them up.

Yeah, let's go pick them up. Let's go pick them up. Well, we know where they are. We can point to them on a map. They're probably a bit bloody chilly, I'd reckon. We can point to him on a map. They're probably a bit bloody chilly, I'd reckon. Yeah. We can later turn the heater on in the helicopter.

So there's all these different search parties going around, but a search party headed by fellow student Boris Slopkov. Boris Slop. Boris Slop. Boris Slop was dropped on the mountainlob was dropped on the mountain. He was dropped on the mountain that they were supposed to be, they were supposed to be their final destination. But he found no sign of them,

and he concluded they never made it that far, which was right. Correct, conclusion, Boris. Then on February 25th, Slobkov and his group finally discovered the trail of skis that he assumed to be that of the diathlon group. The next day on February 26th they discovered the tent on the slope. Slopkov recognized the tent instantly as he had helped construct it a few years earlier. He made a big tent by sewing two tents together. So he was like he instantly recognized that's a group's tent. They found the tent to be torn and empty of people. Inside, however, all the groups belongings and shoes had been left behind.

Oh my God, this is so creepy. Including all the food. All the foods untouched. Untouched. There's some slices of ham apparently just sitting there like they're about to eat it. Like they're about to eat it. Just thinking they could have made a bear, but a bear would have eaten the meat. Yeah, so I was asking you too.

Although, he would have also eaten the people Just thinking I could have been a bear, but a bear would have eaten the meat. Yeah, so I was asking you too, I think it's a bear. He would have also eaten the people. And they would have been blood. The... Oh, you say you would have filled up on people, like when you fill up on the right. Yeah, maybe it's too full. You were saying. Yes.

So this Russian guy had recognized the tent because he made it. Slopkov. So Slopkov, he knew them, he sent them out there. No, he's just a friend from the uni that's been on different trips He's part of this club and then when he was dropped on the mountain With other people from the uni and then he they found some ski tracks and they tracked them in the next day They found the tent and he instantly went holy shit. That's the tent That's and then they went up to it

It was slashed open and they'd been partially covered with snow as you would expect Holy shit, that's their tent. That's... And then they went up to it. It was slashed open and they'd been partially covered with snow as you would expect, you know, to and half weeks later. But it was still intact on the inside, like they were about to come, you know, they could come back any time to start eating again. And at first they thought it had been slashed by someone else. But later on when they examined the tent, someone noticed that it had been cut from the inside. That's the way it's the best for spooky things. If anything's coming from the inside. It's coming from the inside. So good.

And the normal entrance way, two and from the tent had been ignored. So they were still zipped up, but in the middle, they'd summon from the inside and slashed it. Eight or nine sets of footprints left by people who are wearing only socks, a single shoe or even barefoot could be followed, leading down toward the edge of a nearby woods on the opposite side of the pass, about 1.5 kilometers to the northeast. So they had to make a quick getaway.

Didn't have time for that. One of them's gone psycho. Yeah, who do you reckon that could be? Rending to kill everybody, so he's like the safe slash-doping and just run for it. Were there any semen stains? No, semen fingerprints. Fingerprints, so that's not it. Semen fingerprints. However, after 500 metres or 1600 feet, few people that were working feet, these tracks were covered with snow.

On the maze they were even there at all. It is amazing that they were there for so long. Yeah, even when you said they found that they're ski tracks. What is it? It's been two and a half weeks. That's amazing. Actually, it's been longer, it's been 23 days.

Yeah, shit. See how does that work? It's so pristine, there's no animals or anything to cover. It's only snow, but maybe the snow you know it covers it equally Equally so yeah, that like there's still little divots or something like that where feet But it's amazing they can tell like if it's socks or beff. I mean beff. It's probably obvious good toes and stuff But the different plain socks and shoes. I guess they'll be clear, but that's a big difference in stuff. Yeah They probably also just assumed that because their

shoes were still back there. Yeah. From they told me so. I think from examining the trails they recognize from the tracks that they'd all gotten out of the tent very quickly. Members of the group walked in a single file with the tall man, what tall man walking the back.

So he would step up. Right. They were walking in single file. Single file. His footprints partially covered up. Right, so walking in single file. Single file. His footprints partially covered footprints of his friends who walked in front of him. They assumed it was just one of the group. You know, if you run in a straight line in single file that different prints cover each others, overall the path gave an impression of organized and uneventful descent down the slope of the mountain.

Oh man. However, several trails would deviate from the groups, from the general direction and then rejoin the group. So they'd sort of trail off a bit and then come back in the line. What drunk? You re-yudin would say that they had no alcohol apart from medicine, like rubbing alcohol for wounds on the trip. Okay. It feels like, so that's one of them's like a man. What about go watch them out, right, in a single file.

I then go and you go fetch me a twig and then they run off and they come back. Thank you Now you You go and get me a different They run off and they come back to the line. Thank you. You get me smatching them alone. You get me some snow No, no, that's no snow from over there. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. I love you all equally. The next morning, the search for the tense occupants continued. They explored the valley of a local river when a tall cedar attracted their attention. So a very big tree. So they saw this big tree and they thought that

the tree could provide the search party a better view of the mountain and surrounding locations. They're like, oh, let's go towards that tree and we'll climb it up. But both men approached the cedar and stopped because two bodies lay in the snow and the remains of a fire were visible nearby. Who you guessing? The two bodies were laid side by side in what looks like careful arrangement. Are you one's a Yuri I reckon one at least ones a girl if not both the girls. Xenna and Yuri. It was Yuri D and Yuri K. Damn it! We are, we are, we are down to only one Yuri in this world.

Fuck! No! Fuck you, right? I know you'd take guessing it, I'm seriously. I just want to be right always. He's a little wee. Was it Louise? As Yuri did in Eurike, the two men were shoelace

and dressed only in their underwear. Sexy. The branches on the tree were broken up to five meters high, suggesting that one of the skis had climbed up to look for something, perhaps the camp or climbed up to get away from something. Yeah. Same. Between the cedar and the camp, the searches found three more corpses over the next couple of days.

They found Diathlon himself. Okay. Same. Zena. Zena. And Rustam. Oh no, not with his, without his... Who seemed to have died in poses, suggesting they were attempting to get back to the tent.

So wait, so it's gone through the list. So you got Eagles gone. Are you crossing them off? Yep. Zena's gone. Rustam is gone. Eury D in Eury K and Eudon's gone home. So we've got, left we've got Alexander.

We've got Lloyd Miller. Lloyd Miller? Yes, got Lloyd Miller and Simon and Simon. Oh, Simon is firming. There's a fourth one. It'd be funny if now he's like, oh I forgot to mention a person. Oh, looks like I forgot to mention one guy. Is it another Yuri? I'm afraid it's not. It's a guy called Nikolai. Oh, he missed the train, that guy.

No, it's a, there's another Nikolai. I forgot to say. Two Nikolai's three ures. And a part tree, dude, a pear tree. Nikolai must be in a bit of a tough guy. He bought... Seriously, Sans laughed at for that. Fucking guy. Oh, sorry. I was thinking, I was ready to...

I'm sure I was ready to do the first. I mean, he did that on a podcast. Have I done it before? Because I'm sure you're the first I'm you did that on a podcast I've I don't know if I'm sorry I do it all so I Want to be a little cat raises any time you count something I do it and Dave David last two weeks or two or the last three weeks Has said it to Scooby-Doo Scooby-Doo Scooby-Doo I love me everything the Scooby-Doo Scooby-Doo Scooby-Doo and I think of I think of mystery something a Scooby-D And that idea of Scooby Doo impression that's very bad. God, we're so predictable.

We are. All right, so I forgot this bloke called Nicolai. He is one of the four that they haven't found yet. OK, so this is Nicolai. But Diet love, Zena, and Rustam, they seem to have died in poses suggesting they're attempting to get back to the tent, something which would have been incredibly

difficult in the pitch black night. Well, just ever because it's so goddamn cold and why would you leave the house? And also they're not wearing shoes. Yeah, that would be... Oh man, that would be the worst. They were found separately at distances of 300, 480 and 630 meters from the tree, so they'd separately got a little bit further than the other one. Spread it out, but then collapsed and obviously froze to death.

Jesus. Searching for... But you did say that they were like lying down like they'd been placed there, didn't you? So the two underneath the tree did, they're the ones in their underwear, which we'll get back to. Sure, okay. So so far there's still four missing. Four to go, including this including this nickel I block I forgot Searching for the remaining four travelers took more than two months. Oh my god. They were finally found on May the fourth

under four meters Under four meters of snow in a ravine Well, I sort of a crevast 75 meters farther into the woods from the sea to trees They went very far. How do they find them under four meters of snow? Well, it had started to thaw because may it starts, you know, gets a bit warmer. So then they found, Hey, I think, I think what I remember reading is that someone had a knee, a year in arm or something sticking out. They're like, are these four were better dressed than the others?

In their Sunday tuxedos. We say had all packed. Yes, party. And there were signs that those who had died first had apparently relinquished their clothes to the others. So people had died and then that's why they're not. They were thinking they thought you'd be like they'd given them their clothes after they died and I was like, hang on, they took the clothes off.

Which sounds pretty harsh. No, you do it. To survive. Yeah, you take the clothes. So that's why those two Yeah, we take their clothes. So that's why the first two were sort of in their underwear, because the others took their pants and stuff. A seaman was wearing Lloyd Miller's faux fur coat and hat,

which is strange because Lloyd Miller was with him and her foot was wrapped in a piece of Urecase wool pants and she was wearing his sweater, so they'd chopped up their clothes and tried to warm up or whatever. I feel more aware of this than ever before but every, every, it seems like we keep saying things that mean different things in different countries. Pants means underwear in English. Oh yeah. So trousers. Traurs.

I think we have to translate ourselves all the time. No, probably not. Our listeners are intelligent people who I'm sure have... And we say podcast, not podcast. Yeah, okay, Americans, it's the same thing. All right Matt, is that okay? No, sorry. I'm sorry for...

Sorry for... Sorry for... Sorry for... Sorry for... Sorry for caring about our listeners. No, I care too, but I care enough. What does it look like? It doesn't sound like you care.

Yeah, but if I'm wanting... It sounds like you just want them to go fuck off and figure it out for themselves. I never said that. Well, you're basically... If I was listening to a British podcast and they were referring to a pants and then in the context of the conversation, it sort of sounded like they were talking about underwear, I'd fucking figure it out wouldn't it? Well, I think that's because we are more intelligent as a general rule in Australia. And that's why all the best podcasts come from Australia. Podcasts. Podcasts, sorry.

Oh, yeah, what does that mean? So these four, the ones in the ravine, had built a den to try and survive the harsh night. Oh my God. Probably an idea of army man's semen as it was a common way to survive during the war. Because it's freezing when they're fighting in the eastern front. But their bodies were actually found a few feet from their shelter in the deep part of a ravine sort of almost like I know they may have fallen in there. There's no real explanation as to why they're in this why they're not in their

shelter anymore. But one of the weirdest part about the bodies was that all but three members had significant damage to their bones. What? Like they were crushed with immense force. What? Doctors compared the extent of the damage to being hit by a car. What? The trauma. Who do you reckon the one who wasn't crushed, Seaman? No, I reckon the one who...

No, he had a lot of damage. I reckon somebody drove a car into the tent. But... Whoopsie, Daisy. The strangest thing about it was that they showed barely any outward trauma. Like you know it wasn't like they'd been hit over the baseball bat because that fractures your skull but also there's a mark on the outside but it was just when they open up the bodies for the autopsies like oh you have a fractured skull for some reason. What? In that. So I'll say what, so Rustam had a small crack in his skull.

Nikolai, the poor forgotten guy, had major skull damage. What? Seaman and Leodmilla had major chest fractures, like most of their ribs were broken. What? Yeah, but I'll say notably the body said, no external wounds related to bone fractures, as if they'd been subjected to to high level of pressure. Weird. This is starting to sound to me like something from another dimension has come through here. A car hit the 10. Yeah you're right. From another dimension. But the tracks were covered up but the feet were

still left. Yeah. That would make sense. And it's up in a mountain. What cars from the 1950s? A Jeep. I haven't read it. I haven't done it. We don't have time to read books all day long. I think they're actually called Keeps over there. Oh, jeep. And the absolute weirdest part. Oh, there's more. Oh, yeah. Oh, the weirdest part. The weirdest part. A couple of them were missing their eyes.

But it's been speculated that because they'd been there for a while, that maybe some animals that come along and eat in the mouth. But, layered Miller was missing her eyes, part of her lips as well as facial tissue and a fragment of her skull, but she was also missing her tongue. Now the eye part and the, she was found face down in the water and been there for in the snows for a two months, so it could have like her lips could have disintegrated, but that doesn't explain why her tongue wasn't there because I was inside her mouth protected.

Did you say an animal had eaten her out? And I laughed at the time, but I didn't say anything. Just double checking. The rest of the stuff was important as well, but. But. Oh, man. Oh, man. He did not appreciate that. He's so disappointed.

I'm sorry Dave. I'm sorry. I'm even freaked out by the tongue. It breaks my ass so much. Yeah, no I'm freaked out. I'm trying to divert my brain. Alright, so it's a lot more cheerful thing. What makes the fact even more mysterious is the lack of coherent explanation

or description of the damage because she doesn't have a tongue. Speak up, speak up. She's giving me nothing. You are not getting the certificate young lady unless you explain yourself. Oh, yeah. What makes the fact more mysterious

is the lack of coherent explanation or description of the damage in the autopsy. All it mentions is tongue missing. But most of the time in autopsy would say, tongue missing, it looks like it's being chopped out or cut out or doesn't say anything like that. So it's very vague, which is mysterious. It could be like, if it has been cut out,

there would still be something left. Yeah. You know, like, so you could be like, yeah, that's a clean cut, that's been cut with a knife. Do you think your car took the tongue out as well Jess? What's you? You kinda Jeep is this. You got a better, a better theory so far Matthew.

I told you it's a portal to another dimension. What was this time of the many theories at the end? Oh god. Another weird factor was Uricase sweater and pants showed increased radiation levels. What the actual fuck? So he had worked in radiation cleanup, but he probably would have thrown away all of those clothes. Another mystery consists of the fact that officials insisted

on checking for radiation in the first place. There was no real reason for checking that. There's just some kids that had got lost in the woods. Why would, when the army people arrived, would they go, hey, let's just scan the area with our guy encounters, mysterious? Oh Oh wait so when they found them they checked for it. It was almost like they knew what they were looking for. Oh that's spitting. But it was only Yuri's sweater and pants and it wasn't like crazy

levels of radiation that would kill you, it was apparently a couple of times what it's what it's normal, but still more than amazing. I'm explaining. If they knew what they were looking for, surely it was a secret thing. Why would they report on it? It's very confusing. It is. But witness reportedly attended the funerals of several of the deceased.

I noted that they had very dark, tanned skin. But I don't know if this is true. And if your son or daughter had died in such an awful way, you probably wouldn't have an open casket with you. If they don't have eyes, no. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know if that's reliable, but I did read that. Yeah. Are the tent? I'm holding my face. I know. It's scary. It's really uncomfortable.

I've got my hands on my neck for some reason. The tent, I will say, had all the tourists money, valuables and the food. They're not your hands. Oh fat! Oh! All their money, all their valuables, still there. Their passports, their smartphones. Yeah, all their money, all their valuable stuff, apart from the stuff that's in their pockets, was still in the tent. So immediately they were like, well, this wasn't a robbery going wrong. And their food was still there.

So it wasn't an animal. Oh, creepy. So there was a bit of an investigation by the Soviets. Another time, it was very quick this investigation, and I wanted to wrap it up quickly, which is kind of suspicious, but also at the same time, because it was the Cold War, they were pretty secretive about everything. So it wasn't necessarily more secretive than, you know, they want to sweep everything under the rug that makes them look weak

against Americans like we can't look after our own people in the hills so maybe they just want to cover it up for that or maybe they got something to do with the who knows at the time the verdict was that the group had all died because of a compelling natural force quotation marks yeah suitably vague Yeah, that's a lot of things. Which is suitably vague. Yeah. What does that mean? I'm a compelling natural force.

Oh. Where were you on the night of that day? 1959. Mm-hmm. And you eyewitnesses? Oh. No. No.

Someone had a few eyes missed. Nus-ness. Nailed it. God, I didn't want. Are the inquest officially ceased in May 1959 as a result of the absence of a guilty party, so I can't arrest anyone for this. The files were sent to a secret archive, and the photocopies of the case became available only in the 1990s when the USSR dissolved. Although some parts were missing, a little bit dodgy, and this area was sealed off to the public for three years

following the incident. Like they didn't want people to go there. And again that could be because they worried that something might happen or because they know that something might be discovered. Oh my god. Explanation time. So you're probably wondering what the hell happened? No I wasn't thinking that actually. Oh well rapid. I was like great. Well this is a fun topic. I don't feel sad about the world at actually. I was like, great, well this is a fun topic. I don't feel sad about the world at all. I thought it was a compelling natural force. I'm stupid.

A compelling natural force. Yeah. The Jess Perkins story. But a lot of, yeah, Jess Perkins, the compelling natural. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage. The compelling natural force. That is. Pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup-pup A lot of people have asked the question and there are a lot of theories out there So what happened and I'll give you a few of them and then I guess you can posit your own and then decide what you think is most likely First possibility that a lot of people say a natural one is avalanche

Maybe the group panicked because they thought an avalanche was coming the theory is that they cut the hole in the side of the tent quickly escape Left in a panic and because it was nighttime They're about to go to bed. They're not dressed properly, they're not wearing shoes, so they just start running, they get lost in the dark, then they freeze to death. Sounds possible, kind of, but there was no evidence of avalanche found in the area that night, even when they found the tent three weeks later, it was still standing practically. It's fine, yeah. Even, so it was hardly an avalanche, I'd hit the tent.

Also going into this series, the area had never had any avalanches recorded before that. Yeah, so it's not an avalanche. And I out love was pretty clever, dude. He probably wouldn't camp somewhere where he thought there would be an avalanche. I'm ruling that one out, no avalanche. Matt.

I think of the avalanche. I will not rule anything in or out. Interesting, interesting. It's just synt Interesting. Interesting tactic. Compaling. Yeah, as yet. That's full of it. That's full of it.

I'm going to give everyone a score out of ten. I give Avalanche a six. A six. That's pretty good. Yeah. But we don't know how compelling the other ones will be. Sure. Another theory

blames the death of the tourists on Soviet special forces that simply got rid of unwanted witnesses. Oh, okay, so they saw something. They may have seen something. People who oppose this scenario point out that none of the rescuers ever reported any other footprints. So you do have to cover up your footprints, but not the nine people in the tent. But going against that again is that the footprints were never fully closely examined

because when the search party found the tent they weren't expecting to find a crime scene, so they just walked everywhere, so they may have covered up the Soviets' footprint. I'll doubt that. I don't know how to feel about that theory. Soviets at the time were still trying out R-12 rockets that they adopted in that later in that year, 1959, because they were in the middle of nowhere, perhaps they saw later in that year, 1959. And because they're in the middle of nowhere, perhaps they saw something they weren't supposed to. This could explain why the case was closer quickly

and sealed for a long time to try and cover up that. So it was all the information there, Dodgy. I mean, why are they cutting out tongues and eyeballs and and and crushing bones without bruising it? Yeah, and that doesn't make any sense. Or is that just all weird? Like, is the other reports in on it somehow? Why would they sell those weird things then?

Yeah, a lot of people say... They just say us, an avalanche. Oh, they're frozen to death. Yeah, and other people... But possibly they can't because the students have discovered the bodies. Why did... I mean, if they killed them, why wouldn't they have gone we found these bodies here on a whatever. That's very strange and also at the time Russia is a big

history of just simply making people disappear. Yeah. So you could have just killed them on the mountain, hit the bodies and then no one would have. No. Yes. Yes. No one would have ever found them. So that's a bit dodgy. I'm giving that one a three. This was the height of the Cold War with both sides east to west of um, searching for the ultimate weapon to knock the other one out, but there's no evidence of experimental weapon sides within hundreds of miles that they ever declared, but there's been speculations that they were trying to develop an ultrasonic weapon that would destroy with sound alone or use sound waves to confuse people. And that would kind of explain broken bones.

So the theory is like, the sound makes you panic. So maybe they ran out of the tent. Sound waves. Alright, I'm bubbling that up to a 7. Sound waves? Or is that a new one? That's a different one. Alright, I'm giving that one a 7. Sound waves, possibly. Another quite interesting one I found was possibly CIA involvement,

because the FBI, not the FBI, the Soviet secret police. If it wasn't them, then possibly the CIA, because they were always spying on each other. Perhaps the theory is that you know, you read the one that had the radioactive clothing, perhaps he was going to make contact with the CIA in a very remote area, giving them the clothing with radiation on it so they could examine it to prove that the Soviets had been working on radioactive weapons. So that's the theory. But then the theory gets even crazier because some people think that maybe the Soviets

put him up to it to give them a fake jumper. And I don't know if you remember earlier on in the story. He's the one that gets arrested and taken away from the group for a while. So possibly conspiracy people think that at the time when he's taken away, he's given this jumper to give to the US, CIA as a like a dummy And that he's supposed to meet them in the in the forest However, something goes wrong and they decide to kill all the people in the tent

But again, it's a weird way to kill people. It is making them disappear. I'm giving that one a 10 a 10 Not a dad my mom. That's the answer. Not a dad of my mom some of the people including Seaman had That's the answer. Not a doubt on one. Some of the people, including Seaman, had signs of injury on their hands as if they'd been involved in a scuffle of some description. What? But that could have also been climbing the tree, making the fire, making kindling all that kind of stuff. Doing a fire. No, there's also people doing a fire. Another theory, scientific ones, that they were suffering from a behavior known as paradoxical undressing.

Yeah, this is my theory. This is the theory that, and this happens to people. I give this theory a turn already. People that are suffering from hypothermia, their body is in such distress, basically as you die, you get so cold that your body starts to think that you're hot. Yeah. So you take off all of your clothes. Which makes it worse.

Yeah, and you get cold when you die quickly, but your brain's not functioning. Six out of nine hikes died of hypothermia, and that's undisputed. But the hypothesis doesn't address why they left the tent in the first place. If you're cold, it's not likely that nine people would get it at the same time and then all run out of, you know, and get naked in the snow. And how did they get those other injuries just? Not, it's still 10 out of 10 for me. That's the one. And then we come to aliens, Matt. Here we go, sorry, I gave my 10 away too early.

Well, I mean, it's similar to Fahrenheit. It doesn't make any sense to system. You could just say any number. All right, so the scale actually goes up to 130. Yeah. It's often put for that a UFO scared the group and made them ditch the tent out of fear No, that's true If I saw a you were now that's it we got it we got it one

pulsating orbs I love the word orb pulsating orbs were seen So no more mate. We've cracked it. We've already said this is it. Well, they were seen repeatedly in the area in January, February and March by students, geologists, natives, and even local militaries. So a lot of people saying that they saw orbs mysteriously floating in the sky.

Not any orbs, Dave. Pulse-aiding orbs. Pulse-hurry, pardon me. Which is the most mysterious of all orbs. I like my orbs pulsating. How would you like your orbs tonight, Madame? pulsating good sir. Lovely choice. And for you sir. What does that have to garlic bread in the peanut?

Call back. On months 31, a group of search and rescue volunteers saw strange glowing pulsating orbs in the sky. One of the members, Valentin, described the event. It happened early in the morning while it was still dark. The man who was standing guard that night left the tent and saw a large glowing sphere in the sky. He woke up everyone. We watched this orb for about 20 minutes until it disappeared behind a mountain. It was moving in the northern direction. This event freaked everyone. We were sure that this was something, this was somehow involved in the death of the diatlov group. That's pretty spooky. Spoo!

And again, this might have been USSR testing rockets or secret weapons. Yeah, I was going to say that's probably seems more likely to be... Than aliens? Well, only because ever since people have got smartphones, you just don't see those videos anymore. It is strange that the, now that everyone has the ability to properly document everything that... Ghosts. Before that, you know, I think that there's hundreds of reports every week. According to the X-Files which I treat as gospel.

Yeah, isn't it? It's a documentary, I suggest it. One of the final things that you'll often hear is a Yeti, some sort of monster. Yep, that mate, well, yeah, that mate. Well, the argument here is that the injury sustained by the skiers was so grave and extraordinary that a man couldn't have done it, but in humanly strong and prepared though.

So how do you break bones though? For me inside. Do you think, do they have, like, yeties have such... Forceful punches yet soft skin or something? What do they use a pillow? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'll take me. That'll take me.

You got bruising. Get the phone book out. Dile Yeti. Ha ha ha! Hasht. Dolly Yeti. Hashtag Dolly Yeti. There it is. Look, I think we'll let the listeners decide, but I think we'll see the hashtag with more traction this week definitely being what kitchen utensil will you put up your butt? So long, so long.

Can you show on that? So if you've got a Yeti So the Yeti argument is that the slits in the side of the tent were initially made to be quite small Not to escape it, but so people could see out of them Oh, they were little eye holes to see if someone or something was approaching the tent Oh, yeah, and when they saw something they made the hole even bigger because they wanted to run away real quick. So, yeah, and if he yet is coming, it's unlucky it's been much, much time gathering your things. You would just run out, you know, and I'll take my time. Women. Hang on. Hang on yeti. I don't have any

mascara. I don't look at me. I don't have any face. And then the argument was that they got scared. They ran away and they tried to get back to the tent. They got lost in the dark. And I think if anything like this scared them, it's more likely to be a bear. Because most bears hibernate right, but if food supplies are particularly low and remember it's mountain of the dead with no one to eat, they don't hibernate and they'll eat anything, including humans. Were they bears in the mountains? You said earlier that one of the reasons they called it a dead mountain was that they didn't know.

It's not many things live there, that's right. I don't want to say that. And I listened that. And no one has signs of being bitten or scratched by a bear. Which would, yeah, I don't think the bears would march the minutes of orderly light and ask me to get twigs either, so. Not like a Yeti would. Yeah. Then we get to my favorite oh

God, there's a better one the golden woman. Yep. This is very quick. I mean I'm I'm all in I'm cash and all my chips a century old horror-laddened in the year old speak of a fearsome Zolatoria Baba a golden woman lurking in the area. Yeah, I mean. So that's it, those are the possible explanations. No, there's no follow-up or no. There's no story of gold or just- I was just like, is a gold woman in the area? And obviously that is another possible-

But a sister part. What do you have? What do you have? Of course you have. I'd do a part of that. I told her she was golden, didn't I? What else do you want to know? She was in the area. Yeah, and a woman. I'm a bit of a politician for that. I thought she was golden didn't I? What else do you want to know?

She was in the area. Yeah, and a woman. Still questions. Okay, Jess, please you are hard to please. Wow. I've been just painstakingly descriptive in my detail. Is she silver? No, she's golden.

Is her name Yuri? No, it's woman. Is her name Yuri? No, it's woman. Oh. Oh God, it's like listen for one to your wearing headphones. Can you hear me? Hello? Hello, is this thing on? My name is woman. Golden woman. Am I right?

And I will wrap it up before you can make your final guesses. Unfortunately, these were not the last victims of the mountain of the dead. In the 60s several airplane crashes took the lives of nine pilots and geologists who were sent to this area. And for a time, flights were totally cancelled in the region. Yeah, something's fucked about this area. In 2009, another plane crashed in the area. Pilots ignored low, standing, standing unofficial no-fly zone. Fortunately, they survived the crash,

but it couldn't explain why they actually was a helicopter went down so quickly without warning. Golden woman. Golden woman. We've got the curse of the golden fair, and I've got the curse of the golden woman. Oh, no. So many curses. Most of the group were buried together in a

shrine that you can go and visit except for Seaman and Yuri K who were buried separately from the rest of the group in a cemetery that has been officially closed for several years. Golden Woman. And do you remember Yuri K, the radioactive one? Seaman, the people often say that Simon, because he joined the group last, and he's from this mysterious army background where only 3% of people lived. The possibly he was working for the secret police, the KGB,

and that's why he lived, because he would be doing secret missions, and that maybe he was sent along with the group to watch what they were doing. There was something a bit sus about Seaman for sure. I just can't quite put my finger on it. But yeah, having heard the story, it's um, it's a crazy one. Do you have any guesses of gold eminence?

It's an other very unsatisfying. Yeah. And now it's hard to end these ones like you're looking at me like yeah, then what happened? I don't know. Oh, it's so creepy. And I said very early why leave the house and do these outdoors activities well. Have you learned your lesson yet? I'd love to know one of our three topics suggest as thought. They obviously know a little bit about it. I'd like them to

better say their theories or anyone else to say. There's apparently, yeah, a bunch of conspiracy theorists. It's apparently big in their community. They know a lot about that. But I never heard the story and you guys have never heard of Diathlon. No, I never heard of it. Yeah, so it now it's just, it's named after Diathlon. And yeah, Blackburn, Chris Brown,

Brett from email, Brett White. If you want to get in contact, let us know what you thought of that report. And anyone else, I don't know if you've got theories that I, because there's dozens of these, when it's a mystery. Oh, there's always something. I can say anything.

No, I'm still going gold woman. Gold and woman. I'm the only one that really makes sense. With all the information we have on it. I reckon with something about sound, the sound guy. Maybe the gold woman does sound. Yeah, she's an audio tech. Audio tech, maybe she's a techie. She bashed him with a boom. Boom bashing. And sadly because I mean boom and I'm gold. I'm gold. Boom and you're gold. Boom and'm gold that's great. Yeah very good. Thank you

and sadly because of I mean the USSR wrote up a bunch of stuff But I mean I don't think they'll ever fully if they know admit oh they know They know it's a golden woman and you're a Uden he lived to be quite an old man and only died a couple of years ago Oh boy what I wonder what his theory was, probably a favourite gold woman as well. Seems like a reasonable dude. Yeah, I think so. Yuri Yuden.

Well that was a fascinating report, Dave. Thank you very much. I found the story to be very, very interesting. Yeah. I will link to a website that's quite comprehensive That poses a lot of these years and also has the diary translated in English and then lots of photos Which is amazing but very very sad because you see them having such a great time Yeah, the back of a truck and all this kind of stuff here

They have a great time the back of the truck and semen I could echo I could ask a plastic. I could dacca plastic. Out of the mandolin. What a time. Yeah, add it in the mandolin solo. Um, hashtag favorite mandolin, tune. Yeah, is there any?

Oh, yeah, that's the end of the episode. Thank you very much for those guys for suggesting the topic. If you want to do the same thing, you can get in contact with us many different ways. And people are using them all now. Facebook, you find us do go on pod Twitter, at do go on pod email do go on pod at gmail.com and if you see one of us in the street. Just yell some words at us. No please don't approach us we're very. I'm very jumpy. Very shy. Yeah, ever since hearing this. If you do want to see Jess Perkins come up she's touring the Northern

Territory, do you want to have a Northern Ter come up she's touring the Northern territory to one of our Northern territory listeners No, I'll be in the Northern territory this week, so Can come check out the road. What are your dates Darwin? Darwin is on Friday. Friday the Alice on Thursday. If you listen to this straight away Catherine on Saturday. That's correct Go along. Bring a friend. I'll be there. Are you going to be there too? Of course. Yeah, we're going to we're hitting the road together. I'm just looking up the top 10 Mandolin rock songs. Number three is losing my religion. Arium. Number two. Maggie May,

rock, stew, good one. Number one. The Battle of of Evermore Led Zeppelin Good songs, well good songs. Yeah, but if you want to add to the list tweet us in get in the official hashtag my favorite Mendel in tune Very, and Simon was playing those top three oh We're not around yet, but I reckon maybe he he new songs that people had heard so that's what they liked The alien story do you think yes, me see me and wrote many of the great rock songs of the second half of the anime and he wrote many the mandolin great rock songs busy man so thanks for listening guys we'll be back next week with a another report until then yeah tweet us in email us in Facebook us in five starrys in five starrys in you know what to do. Thanks so much for everyone. Until then, I say, good bye.

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