Do Go On - 378 - Cowboy Bob

Episode Date: January 18, 2023

In Texas in the early 90's, a man in a ten gallon hat robbed a series of banks, walking away with thousands of dollars in cold hard cash. The FBI were left scratching their heads - who WAS this man, known only as Cowboy Bob? This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 00:3:42 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report). Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodLive show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/  Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/ Check out our new merch! : https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Stream our 300th episode with extra quiz (and 16 other episodes with bonus content): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas Do Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://allthatsinteresting.com/cowboy-bobhttps://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna10367955https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/the-last-ride-of-cowboy-bob/https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2005/may/06/bank-robber-shot-dead-in-texas/https://open.spotify.com/episode/6kcUUy3r5w8BG7r44yqVWI?si=12d109d8827748e0 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Dukele One. My name is Dave Warnocky and as always. I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins, who are miming along in unison. Well, we're into what, our eighth year?

You've heard that a few hundred times now. I've heard that so many times. Although it's funny because you weren't here a few weeks back and I had to do that. And I'm like, wait, what does he say? Yeah. But when I'm in the moment, you were mouthing word for word. It's like, have you ever, you know, you do karaoke and you think you know, the song so well because you sing along with the words.

Yep. But that's, I'm obviously singing slightly behind the words by a split second or whatever. Or they're reminding me as we go. Like you're reading. You're reading the words at karaoke. Yeah, no, good point. No, I'm talking about, you know, on the radio, when you're hearing the words is easier than when it's just an instrumental track.

Sure. Like I remember, when I... Hang on, you're saying an instrumental track, it's harder to remember the words. Yes. For an instrumental track. Well, no, I'm... I get what you mean I get you

I'm glad someone does Jess works in radio at a music station She doesn't seem to understand music What about this one? It's when you're doing the dishes You're putting away the cutlery Yeah

And if the knives and forks are already there It's easy But if they're gone You go Hang on Where do they go? A for the fork's on the left Yeah

Thanks so much for putting it into terms That Jess would understand Dinnerware Because she was lost Before I was like music What? What?

But cutlery, come on. Okay. Your greatest passion in life. You're talking my language. Oh, I love cutlery. Dishes. You love spoons. Spoon collection.

Love spoons. Hey, Jess, how does this show work? Well, this show works. One of the three of us, Dave, Matt, and me, Jess. We take turns researching a topic, usually suggested by a listener. We go away. We research it. We bring it back to the other two who listen politely, who never riff along.

Spoons. And yeah, we keep it super relevant. Spoons. And if this is your first ever episode, you know, like all podcasts, just give it a go, you know? You might hate it, but we grow on you. Yeah, you've got to give it a few episodes. But I will say this, I looked at reviews recently. Back to back, there was one that said, the best, five stars, and it was really glowing.

And the next one was the worst thing I've ever heard, one star. Wow. I'm like, that's... Which one did you think about when you're... you're lying in bed that night. The two best or the one worst? It could have been the worst. See, I think the person who said the worst

the I ever heard needed to listen to a couple more episodes. Yeah, they don't like the off-topic stuff. We've made it so clear that's what we do. The show's called Do Go On. A phrase used when people, because we are distracted by something. Anyway, we've done it again.

Dave, you're starting this episode with a question to get us on topic. My question is, my question is, Jess, what's your question? We've just got the open laptop in front of them. You think Dave's that cavalier? Is that the question? I'll feel this one. I think I'm just going to riff it this way.

I'm feeling confident. I reckon I got it. I watched a doco on the weekend. And I remember the gist of it. There's a guy, Barry or something. Anyway, don't worry about it. He's American or Finnish. One of the two.

I don't know. No, it's me. And my question is broad and vague. So strap in. Of the potential heist story, which is our collective favorite kind of heist. Bank. Stupid.

It is not stupid, but it is a bank heist. But is this a stupid bank ice? No, that's why I said it's not stupid. No, I thought you meant the answer's not stupid, but I was hoping that this one would technically be a stupid banker. No, it's not stupid, but it's quite smart. Oh, okay. Actually, that's my second favorite, a smart bankist.

Yes. But it's not even, you know, super about the heist. You'll see as we go along. It's more about the character. The friendship? The friendship, the friends we made along the way. Love that. This has been suggested by Liz Lefeva, who we've, you know, a long-time supporter.

And the only suggestor of this topic, and it's a great topic. Wow. So I thought. Special shout-out. Yeah, special shout-out to you, Liz. And great suggestion. Lefeva, that actually means the fever in French. Oh.

Oh. And people don't like our off-topic stuff. That wasn't technically part of it. of it, but very interesting. Did we not learn? Yeah, I'm running that down. The fever. Okay, so our story begins in May 1991 in Texas.

A teller at the American Federal Bank in Irving, Texas. The Hun. What? A Teller, The Hun. Is that what you did? I think so. I'm sorry I didn't get it for a bit. Well, it was quite a while between you saying Atella and me saying The Hun.

That's it. I was like Irving the Hun. That was a real example if you listening to the words and then singing them after you. That's my life. My brain is a little behind. A few seconds behind. I'm on a satellite delay in real time. A tell her the Hun. Because that's funny.

That is funny. That's funny. That's really funny. That's on me for not picking it up. That's actually really funny. It is. But it was about 10 minutes late. I'm also trying to build some suspense.

Yeah, sorry. A teller in Irving, Texas. At the American Federal Bank. The Han. Gretes the next customer. A medium height, mid-40s white man with graying hair, a slight beer belly, and a beard wearing a leather jacket, sunglasses and a 10-gallon hat.

It's Texas, that's not that weird. He sounds cool. That's very cool. That's funny. I like that you're saying cool. I'm like, this sounds like me a little bit. You are white. Yes.

You are medium height? Yeah. I'd say slightly above average. Put me in there. I'm gray. between you and me, we got this. Gray hair. We got this.

Slight beer belly and a beard. Yeah, I got those ones. Either of you have a leather jacket. All the time. Yeah, Dave's a leather jacket. I'm wearing one in summer. I've definitely seen both of you in sunglasses. And 10 gallon hats.

But that was just our whole trip to the wild wild west. I'm more of an 8 gallon. 10's too big. The man approached the teller and hands over a note. The note says, this is a bank robbery. Give me your money. No marked bills. die packs. The stunned teller complied, handing over a stack of cash from her drawer. The man nodded,

stuck the money in a satchel, and calmly walked out of the bank. I love the nod like, thank you, ma'am. Yeah, tips the hat. The man, who would be referred to as cowboy Bob. Cowboy so great. Bob feels like it diminutive, like it takes away a little bit. What's a better cowboy name? Uh, cowboy Carl. Carboy Carl. But they say cowboy, Carl. Carl. Carly Col. Carl. Carly Col. The name's Coral. Cowboy Coral. What about Cowboy Craig?

Cowboy Craig. That's good stuff. They say names different over there. No, they do. But Cowboy Craig, that sounds better than Cowboy Craig. Yeah, that's totally true. Do they call him Daniel Craig? Oh, maybe.

I've never heard that. Yeah, do they... I don't know. Starring Daniel Craig. It's so funny. I love it so much. It's good. Everything about American makes.

me so happy. I love how they do things slightly differently. Yeah. Which I know we're really the really the ones doing things slightly differently because they're the big one. Oh, that's not fair. You know, Texas is pretty big. We're all doing stuff differently. You know what I mean? That's a good point. This place is small than us. Yeah. And I don't, I can't name any. We're pretty big land mass wise, but population wise. Yeah. Anyway, it's Cowboy Bob. Sorry. Cowboy Bob has walked out. He's taking the cat. Did he have a weapon or did he just say this is a robbery? No weapon. I think there was a weapon implied. They're in Texas.

He's wearing a big hat. Yeah, okay. Implied weapon. So no mask? No. Wow. And it's a real beard. Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. Brazen. But they called him Cowboy Bob after a character from the comic strip, Dennis the Menace. There was a Cowboy Bob character. So that's where that came from. You know how he goes, no Mark Bills. Yeah.

And no die. And they're like, okay. Would he know? How do you know if you'd have to check every note to see that there's not. no Mark Bills. Or the die packs are probably a little more obvious, I guess. But yeah, who knows? But I like that, and I like that he didn't speak.

So he must have a real distinctive voice. He'll, hey, little, I'm cowboy, bob. I'd be like, oh, that's cowboy bob. They guessed his name anyway, so he didn't really end up saving himself. But there must be a reason he didn't speak, right? I think you're overthinking things early I've gotten about four dot points in and we're already

you know we're throwing around a lot of theories how many dot points be talking this whole report Oh fuck so many eight So many dot points I break it up a lot I'll let you I'll let you get through a few more dot points

Before I say something stupid again The man who would be referred to as cowboy bob Robbed four more banks over the next year year. Okay. From an article in all that's interesting.com, according to the tellers' testimonies,

cowboy Bob was always calm, always unarmed, always polite, and always silent. He was thorough in his heist, steering clear of the security cameras and checking each bill for marks or diapacks.

So there you go. Was he a mime? Was he miming a gun? Wow, because that is an implied weapon. It's also possible that he can't talk, obviously. Maybe. Or doesn't speak English?

Yes. has a very thick accent which would give him away. Yeah. Like, for example. I'll do an accent you're saving guess first from. Give me Zimani. Give it to me. I know where he gets.

So I'm going to need a few more words. Sorry, I'm not getting it. How much money do you want? Give me all the money. All of it. And Macbill's. Okay, what about a dipact? Do you want a diapack?

Not diapacks. Thank you. Well, I think we should call that guy a cowboy boy. Now, was that your Austrian? We'll find out because it's... Belgium. You'll find out late. Okay, just got it.

Thank you. He would check for diapax. Check. Which for people who don't know. No. That's my saying. They're the little dye-filled devices that are set off by radio, essentially. They create a lot of mess, which essentially means the money is useless and the robber can't use it and also usually sort of, you know, gives them away.

Because they're walking around like a smurf. Yeah. Trying to spend smurf money. Hello. Here's seven smurf dollars. Ever they put smurf on front of everything in Smurf land. Smurf-olars or something. I'll get some.

Those smurf berries for seven smurf dollars, please. He exited the bank getting into his 1975 Pontiac Grand Prix. Oh, beautiful. And drove away calmly as to not attract further attention. It seemed to the police that Cowboy Bob had considered every small detail very carefully and planned out the robberies meticulously. His hat and glasses meant security cameras couldn't get a good look at his face. Plus, he seemed to purposefully avoid looking at the cameras or tilting his head that way anyway.

Oh, you never, you never, I pull the camera. You never. Cut. This is a real pro. He's not taking off his sunny, squeaking. He's not holding up his lances into the camera. What is that? Thank you.

But I personally, I can't resist the camera. You love it. I see a camera, I just think. Hey, the camera can't resist you. And I can never do it silently either. I've got to do a monologue. Yeah, you must. But that's you.

I hand over my note, now is the winter of our disco. intent. What? Put the money in the bag. Did you believe that? Do you want me to do that again? He always wore gloves, so he left no fingerprints. He left the banks calmly, like I just said before.

So, meaning that no one could really give police further evidence of what he looked like because it was just a person leaving the bank. You weren't paying attention to it. You see somebody running out of a bank with money flying off behind them and a gun. That's a suss. That's another reason why you do. do a note so people aren't overhearing you. Yeah, maybe, yeah.

And then there's a discussion as well probably. Yeah. Yeah. Just read the note. Don't make me tap the note. Yeah, and he's got everything in the note. You know, it's like no die, no mark bills, all the money. There's like, what questions do you have? But what if there was a question, hang on, got it right out a note?

Yeah, yeah. Like they ask. I think, oh, yeah, silly. How's your day? Yeah. Yeah. What denominations, any preference? Yeah.

Do you want me to open the safe and get what's in there as well? Yeah. Oh, I've said too much. I'm a trainee. I'll have to get the manager. Is that okay? Yeah, I actually don't have access codes to even open this till. I don't work here. You've walked up to a random person in the bank. The tellers over there. You didn't mention in the note if I could press this secret security button or not, can I? Can I? Just want to double check if that's okay with you. I didn't want to ruffle any feathers.

He was in and out usually in around 60 seconds. It's quick. Police were baffled and very frustrated. He was making me start to pull my hair out, said former agent Steve Powell to the Texas Monthly. Steve Powell comes up a lot. How could this thin little dried up cowboy be whippinous this bad time after time? He's a whippinous. Oh, so he's a thin little. Keeps getting away.

Gosh. So that was May 1991. In December 1991, Cowboy Bob struck again, stealing $1,200 from the Savings of America, which is also located in Irving. This time an eyewitness was able to write down the license plate number. of the Grand Prix, the Pontiac. So he's still driving around the same car. Same car?

What's the number plate? I don't have it. Cowboy Bob. I'm not doxing anybody. Sea boy. Seaboy. He's also stealing a smallish amount of money each time. Well, this is a...

Well, this is a... That's not a... That's, you know, like he's not... Was it $1,200 or $12,000? $1,200. $1,200. Oh, yeah, $1,000 is not... But he's going to, like, one-teller.

He's not sort of... It's a one-man operation. If you've got a heap of people, maybe some people get into the vault and get all the good stuff. You're saying less overheads. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's just like in and out real quick, just whatever that teller's got, I'll take it. He sounds like he's living paycheck to paycheck or bank robbery to bank robbery.

Yeah. So yeah, it's more than 1,200 in today's money. But you're right. It's not like life-changing money just yet. I saw maybe my favourite ever personalized number plate the other day. And I hate most of them. Yeah, me too. This one was Sharon.

Good. No numbers is letters. How stoked would show? I feel like Sharon's got it. Sharon, like... You wouldn't even try. Sharon feels like a person... A person named Sharon feels like the kind of person

who might want to get a personalized number played as well. So that's like a high demand one. It's not like Dennis or something. I don't think Dennis is out there. And normal Dennis isn't going. I want to get my car named after me. They're ashamed of their name. I wonder if Dennis is a proud.

Do I reckon Dennis is available? Can you look at up? Proud. Yeah, I think you can. One time at a shopping center I used to work out as a team. I saw a car that's number plate was Jesse, but no fives for S's. They got it.

They got Jesse. I was like, holy shit. Wouldn't you be sweating the whole time until it's delivered? You're going, there must be some mistake here. There's no way. I must have to get at least one five or a three. If people aren't squinting at a number plate going, hang on, what does this mean?

Yeah, very confusing. J3. I saw once the number plate was V. That was it For Vendetta? I reckon Or for five Five

Maybe that was their fifth car It was a badass looking It was a badass looking You know Expensive looking That was their fifth car Yeah Do you reckon their number

Amour Now I want to egg that car Could have been one of the members Of the band five Oh I don't think I can name one They don't They didn't have

Most of those boy bands Had a famous member Oh what's No I think there was one That was more famous than the others What was his name? I had a crush on Richie From

Five Oh there you go There you go Okay Is there Scott as well? Scott was in there, yes. Bloody hell. Hang on.

Let's keep going. We can name them all. They're not household names, you know, like NSYN had Justin Timberlake. Robbie Williams's band had Robbie Williams. Take that. Take that. Backstreet Boys had... Take that Robbie Williams.

Backstreet Boys had Howie and Kevin. No. Who's the one from Backstreet Boys? The Bond guy. Nick. Nick Carter. Brian's the other one? The Five also had a guy called Abbs.

Abbs. probably who I was thinking of. Is that not stuff? Abbs love. Oh, my God. Oh, boy. Anyway, guys, I just, like, we just got the license plate. Oh, this is big.

Great. What is it? No, I don't. Jess doesn't want a doxies. I've, like, I've worked hard on this report trying to, like, build some suspense and, like, tell an interesting story. So, cowboy bob. With twists and turns and, you know, and you guys are just like, what's the license plate?

They've got, they've got the license plate. Great. They've got the number of the Grand Prix. This is fantastic. FBI agents are thrilled. They're like, we've freaking got him. Easy. So they tracked down the license plate,

converge on the owner's house, which wasn't far from the bank, bit audacious, robbing a bank so close to home. Inside the house, they found a lady sitting in her living room, confused as to why police were banging on her door. He stole a lady?

He stole a lady. She told him she hadn't left the house that day, and she took them outside to see her car, what has happened here? It was only then that she noticed that her license plates were missing. He's a genius. Cowboy Barb.

FBI agent surmised that the actual thief had stolen the plates earlier in the day and put him on his car, throw him off the scent. Oh, that's clever. Very good. But his car sounds distinctive. What's it called again? It's a Pontiac Grand Prix. I don't think it's a...

It sounds like it should be distinctive. Maybe it's not. And it was a 1970-something? 1975. I don't think it's super uncommon. I don't, I mean, I'm not a car expert if you are and you're listening and you're like, Oh, nah, it's a sick car. Oh, yeah.

Oh, it's a great-looking car, but I don't know if it was necessarily, like, really unheard of, you know? Right. Oh, that's a beauty. Okay. You just watch it a YouTube video now. That's a beauty.

Check out this clip. It's real funny. Look at that. Oh, yeah. And it's a sick car. It's probably about that sort of brown color, too. Oh, my God. That's like a long, low rider type.

Also, I've got some bad news for you, Matt. If you're going to buy that car, there's a number plate. You will not be. you're allowed to put on there. And that is... Sharon. Dennis. Oh no, Dennis has been taken.

This combo is unavailable in Victoria. I mean... Can we get do-go on? Oh, my God. It really doesn't... It feels like Dennis isn't a kind of person who goes out there putting his name on his car. I don't know. It's available.

Do-Go-on's available. We can get two-go-on. Holy shit. Can we get a company car? Let's get a van. Let's get a Grand Prix. Grompree. Or that or a combie van.

Okay. My dream car is genuinely a combie van. Comby vans are sick. Let's get a combi van. Well, let's get the number plate first. Can you purchase that, Dave? Or Jess is babbling on about whatever this story is. Select style. Oh, my gosh.

I just want the listeners to know that, you know, put a lot of effort into this one, and it's a fun story. I'm so into it. I hope you're enjoying it. We'll make this our next Patreon bonus episode will be us picking our car and number plate combo. But until then, Jess, please, do go on. So, yeah, the thief stolen the plates. Another time the plates actually matched the type of car.

The 1975 That's clever Pontiac Grand Prix So police thought perhaps Cowboy Bob Had been a little cocky this time Or perhaps careless And had forgotten to replace his real license plates

With fakes before committing one of his robberies So again they're like We got him We got him So let's surround the house with the SWAT team The license plate brought police to a Dallas car dealer named Pete Tallis Although other sources say he worked at a Ford

Auto Parts factory Pete Talis from Dallas From Dallas Wow Talas was arrested But police were disappointed to learn that Waltals did technically own a 1975 Pontiac Grand Prix.

He'd bought it for his mother and sister. His mom was unwell. His sister was a primary caregiver, gave it to them to use. I know they're using it to Rob Banks. To get... Ridiculous. But the cops aren't heartless.

They're going to let a sick woman pose as cowboy Bob and Rob Banks. Come on. What do you think? $1,200 bucks at a time, whatever. Let her keep it. Yeah. You know, hospital bills and stuff,

it's expensive. Expensive. Expensive. So, like, has the car been stolen from Pete's sister? Or was her car being used by someone else to commit the crimes? Was she an accomplice in some way? So they tracked down Pete's sister, Peggy Joe Tallis, expecting to find that she lived with a boyfriend

who police would find to be the bank robber. Surely, Peggy Joe must be like the bonnie to this guy's client. She's got to know about it. If he's using her car to rob banks, she has to know about it. Behind every great Peggy. Let's get my both. Agreed. So upon making a visit to Peggy Joe's house, though, they realised how wrong they were.

Where they expected to find a wild young woman, there was a middle-aged motherly figure who lived in a modest two-bedroom house with her ailing mother. They asked if she had a boyfriend or a husband. She said, no. They asked if she'd heard of the recent string of bank robberies. Also, no. They asked if anyone else had access to her car or had borrowed it. Agent Powell asked her, now come on, who's been with you?

Where is he? Blankly, Peggy Joe replied, I'm the only one that's in this vehicle. There's nobody else. So this seemed to be another dead end. Standing in front of them was a middle-aged woman who worked part-time to try and support herself and her sick mother. When profiling works in your favour? Well, it's a woman. Middle-aged.

She can't be connected. Boyfriend. Where's your boyfriend? You heard of these robberies? No. Well, I guess that's it. That's it then. I haven't heard of it.

I don't challenge this any further. Her story was backed up by family members, all of whom insisted that she had no boyfriend and no time for a boyfriend. She's got no boyfriend. Trust me. She's got a boyfriend? Yeah. Good one. Nice try.

So they're desperate. So they have a look around her home anyway. And that's when they found in her bedroom closet. Uh-oh. Cowboy Bob. And he handed them a note and said, rut roll. No, they found in her closet a mannequin head with a fake beard on it. Men's clothing.

A cowboy hat. No. And a shit ton of cash. No. And again, police quix. She questioned her as to where the man was. So funny. There has to be a man.

Which man fits these clothes? Then Powell noticed something he hadn't before. Flex of grey hair dying her hair and a thin light of glue on her upper lip. Only then did it click in his brain. There was no man. Peggy Joe Talas was Cowboy Bob. Why did she still have the glue in her lip? I think she just robbed her back.

I think that what had recently happened. Oh, man. And it was so close to them just going, all right. Yeah. Well, dead end. That's amazing. Well, I guess we'll leave you to it then, man. Wow.

Yeah. Whoa, Peggy Joe. Peggy Joe, tell us. So that's probably the real reason why she didn't use her voice. Yeah. As it would have given away. Would have been a little bit. That she was in disguise.

Amazing. So let's go back a little bit. Let's find out. Must have been a pretty good fake beard. Yeah, maybe. You thought it was a looked real when I asked before. Yeah. that's what I was doing

You were convinced yourself I was trying to get some kind of fuck I wanted it to be a reveal and you're like well why are they talking they must have an interesting voice I'm like you fucking shut up shut up My guess it is probably some sort of middle age woman

Doesn't have a boyfriend I even saw as you figured it out Before I got to it And in my head I was begging you I was like Shut up I hadn't figured it out I thought like a few sentences before

You were like oh I was I thought that was another genuine dead end. And you were going to be like, anyway, we're going to move on to another suspect. Anyway. They keep badgering these poor middle-aged women with old moms. Who were just like, I'm just sitting in my house. Why are you yelling at me?

It's just me. I feel the same when I've got a report that's got a reveal in it. It's like when you're, you know, you're doing a surprise party or something. Yeah. And you're like, they know. They know. They know. They're thinking about something entirely different.

Don't fuck this up for me. Yeah. And the little details that you're picking up on, because I know the story, I'm like, no, don't mention that because you're going to give it away to everybody. No, it's fine. I also, I love now you mention that. And then they noticed for the first time a bit of glue on the lip. I can imagine that in the TV adaptation. Yeah.

Camera zooms in, like the sheriff just makes eye contact, reaches for the gun. She reached, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, yeah. Super tense. She reaches for the clag. Does a bunch of, like, like, flashback kind of things where the police officer can, like, see her putting on the, a mustache and he's like, oh, hold a second,

puts it all together. So let's go back a little bit. Born in June of 1944, Peggy Joe Talas was the youngest of three children, raised solely by their mother after their father died of cancer when Peggy Joe was four years old. While their siblings were active participants in high school activities, mainly sport,

Peggy Joe dropped out of school in 10th grade. Her childhood friend Karen Jones says, she told me there was just too much else to do in life than spend so many days at school. Peggy Joe preach. You know what I mean? Every day at school. School?

Come on. Come on. That's this cookie cutter thing, isn't it? School. We're not, all the kids aren't the same. Yeah. Well, how do we think that they can all just go into this classroom and be taught by one person in the same way? It's ridiculous.

Do you want to think about a lot? Free the kids. Free the kids. I'm going to think about a lot one time is in a science class, I didn't understand how to figure something out. And so I went to the teacher for help, right? A crazy thought. I know. Because I wanted to understand.

It's not how my brain works. I'm a creative. And I went up and I was like, I just want to, could you just help me? And she just stared at me. She said nothing and just stared at me. Handed your note that said hand over the cash. And I was like, this is a weird school. I look around, I'm in a bank.

This is in a science lab at all. Oh, God, I've lost again. So did you ever get an answer? No, she just stared at me sort of in that way of like, you figure it out. Like, come on, figure it at yourself. until I just kind of looked back at her and she didn't say anything for ages so I went, oh, okay, I get it now.

And I went back to my desk and I still have no idea. Yeah. Just help me. It's when you become an adult, you do realize that a lot of teachers are really weird units. Some are incredible. Like, teachers are amazing.

Oh, I love them. There's a small percentage of them. There's a couple in every school that are just like... That's just a strange person or someone going through some stuff. But when you're a teenager, you're not thinking about that. No. It would be the same in any field, probably.

For sure. But, yeah, not in podcasting, they're all normies. Or the exact opposite of that. I don't know, we're all real cool. Yeah, people ask me science questions all the time, and just stare at them. I just stare at them. I don't say anything. I was picturing, remember that Tony Abbott video where he's asked a question by Joe,

and he just stared like that. Tony, you're not saying anything. Tony, you're not saying anything. I've given you the answer you deserve. I was thinking we should, we, I might do a Patreon bonus episode one day where I count down the top 10 funniest slash weirdest moments in politics. Great. So I'd have that bush can't get fooled again.

Yeah. Now, what's this drive? Abbott eating the onion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Abbott not talking. That one won't work so well on. Abbott doing a creepy wink. Oh, yeah.

That was a gross one. Just do top 10 Abbott. It would be Abbott and Bush. Abbott and Bush largely. Abbott B. Bush. What a great comedy combo they would be. Yeah. Biden's got a bigger ones in last couple years, I think.

Yeah. Trump is. He played his role. Yeah. Have we had any other funny ones? No, ours have all been cool. Rudd trying to be funny. Fair suck of the sauce bottle.

Got a zip of the sauce bottle. It's not how you'd consume sauce. Anyway, so Peggy Joe, she's out of school. She's like, nah, there's better things to do. This is something Karen continues to say. And what was most special about her was that she loved doing things other kids didn't do. She once drove me around looking for stray dogs to adopt. And then she took me over to yellow belly drag strip just to watch cars race.

Remember this is the 1950s. this free-spirited attitude was a little unheard of. Karen told the story of one day Peggy Joe decided to drive to San Francisco to see what life was like there. I looked it up, it's about 1,700 miles from Grand Prairie, Texas to San Fran, or 2,700 K's, about 26-hour drive. Whoa. Just gets in the car and takes off.

I'm going to go check out San Fran, see what life's like there. It's pretty cool. Can you put that in Aussie towns? That's Melbourne to, like, beyond Brisbane. Probably. Yeah, probably. Yeah, wow. It's a big drive.

and hopefully did it over a couple of days. Yeah. Got a few power naps in. 26 hours, you can't drive it. Bad for your back. But you do that over three days. You start to lose enthusiasm. Do I really care what it's like over there?

Yeah, do I care what life's like in San Francisco? And you start thinking about every hour you're driving out. That's an hour you drive off. Yeah, it's a long time. So it's a pretty wild and impulsive thing to do. She returned with books of poetry to share with their friend. I laughed and thought of all people. Peggy Joe's been off reading poetry.

In San Francisco, Karen said. Of all people. Of all people. But that's just who she was. This idiot? That's just who she was, always ready for an adventure. That's so funny. Of all people.

Of all people. Of all people. The person who's always ready for an adventure. Of reading poetry. So weird. Yeah. In the same sentence saying, never would have guessed her. Of course it was her.

Yeah. Yeah. She was always up to something interesting and fun and loved the arts. Reading poetry, crazy. In her 20s, Peggy Joe was living in an apartment in North Dallas and working as a receptionist at a Marriott Hotel. She met Cherry Young at work and the two became good friends, hitting the town nearly every night.

Okay, now it's Terry Young, Cowboy Bob. Cherry. Cherry. No, it's not. No, Cherry, it won't be Cherry. How good's Cherry, though. Cherry is fantastic. Cherry Young?

Cherry Young. Holy shit. Superb. Great name. A lot of this biography info is coming from a great article from the Texas Monthly, which I'll link in the show notes as well. It was written by a writer with probably one of the best names I've ever heard in my life.

Are you ready for this? I'm so ready. Skip Hollinsworth Oh my God That's not a real person Yeah skip Hollinsworth Holy shit From Texas

Skip Hollinsworth I think so will Yeah he writes for the Texas Monthly He's an executive Now where do you put that Compared to last week We had a journalist called

Parmajana Olson And now I know That was our name for them What was the actual first name? Palmie Olson Parmigana Olson Parmigana Olson Parmigana Olson is good

but Skip Holland's World They're both I really wish someone Would go back to the start And just collate all the great names We've come across Yeah Because there's so many

I forget them all Yeah And we wouldn't know the context For 90% of them Because they'd be like Someone in an article Or like a passing character Name, one tangent summary

Of who the hell they are Yeah I loved this part That Skip wrote in his article It's a great article This is from Skip Peggy Joe always drove her little burgundy fiat, gunning the engine, racing other cars from stoplight to stoplight.

They hit all the great Dallas nightclubs, Seoul City, the fog, and the filling station on Greenville Avenue, ordering cores, playing pool and flirting with men. They went to see the doors and the Doobie brothers and even the Rolling Stones screaming at the top of their lungs as a young, wrinkle-free Mick Jagger jigger gyrated madly across the stage. Beautiful word, Skip. Yeah, why are you bringing up Jagger's wrinkle-freeness? Because it was, a long time ago, so he wasn't old. Because everyone's picturing old McJagger back then. Not funny.

Doobie brothers, that's pretty sick. That's one of the great band names. Absolutely. You heard of the Doobie Brothers? We got one of them. Skip goes on. Peggy Joe took Cherry to a coffee house where amateur poets read out of their notebooks. They also went to see movies.

Peggy Joe's favorite, which she saw over and over, was Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, starring Paul Newman and Robert Redford The movie tells the story of the famous Bank and Train Robbing Duo who lived in the last days of the Old West two good-natured Robin Hood-like outlaws who never believed that what they were doing was wrong because they never hurt innocent bystanders

and they always robbed from institutions that took advantage of downtrodden citizens although Butch and Sundance knew that they had little chance of survival they refused to walk away from the life they loved and they ended up in South America still robbing banks finally dying in a hail of gunfire That was her favorite movie. And I love that Skip tells you the plot summary.

Yeah. Love that. Yeah, I love that. That's a spoiler. I haven't seen that. Thanks, Kim. But honestly, is that the hottest combo of leading men ever in a film? Oh, my God.

Holy shit. Yeah, Robert Redford, Paul Newman. Oh, my God. Am I right? Yes, you are right. You are correct. Not their value, but their value. Yeah.

But they're value. You know what I mean? Like, not their value, but value, but value. There is some value there. Not their value, but. Cash out. Chatching. Charging.

Cherry later recalled that her friend Peggy Joe didn't seem as concerned with things her peers were thinking about. Careers, marriage, kids, security. Peggy Joe wanted enough to pay her bills and keep a roof over her head and a little left over for a few drink with friends. She was just sort of like, I'm happy just getting by. Her dream was to save up and one day move to Mexico and live on the beach. Cherry said she was beautiful and she was rambunctious. Oh my God. She always told me that deep down she was wild at heart.

Wild she was. She could get a little feisty at times. One evening she was pulled over by a police officer for speeding, and she laughed at him and tore the ticket up in his face. That's pretty sick. Imagine. This kind of person is leading a wildlife telling their friends, you know what, I'm really wild at heart.

Deep down. Yeah. It's like, you do crazy shit. Yeah, I know. Deep down at all. That's very surface level wild. Deep down, something I'm suppressing is, I'm pretty crazy. I'm pretty wild.

Something you wouldn't know about me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, something you probably haven't noticed now. I cocked that within the first minute of knowing. Yeah. You, I go out with you with a sense of fear and dread because I don't know what you're going to do. When we get in the car, I'm holding on to the seat, the roof. I've had rally car, like seat harnesses put into your car. You've got to roll games put in.

I'll wear a helmet when we go for a walk along the beach. I know you're wild. I'm scared to end. to this friendship because I don't know what you'll do. So I live in fear. Cherry also recalled a time they were out at a restaurant in Fort Worth and they had a bit of an argument. Cherry left the restaurant to cool off.

And in the meantime, Peggy Joe walked outside and saw an unlocked pickup truck with keys in the ignition. Oh my God. She jumped in and took off. Police eventually caught up with her and she was arrested, pled guilty to a felony charge of unauthorized use of a motor vehicle and received a five-year probated sentence. Is that different to stealing a car?

If they've left the keys in it and it's unlocked. Are you saying unauthorized use for motor vehicle? Unaauthorized use instead of grand theft or whatever. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's interesting. But also I like that, because this is like Cherry's telling of the story. And she's like, oh, I left and definitely wasn't there. Yeah.

I'm like, Cherry, were you there? You know what I mean? Where were you, Cherry? Yeah, your memory of us pretty vivid, Cherry. So she had a little bit of a wild streak. Could be a little impulsive in some decisions. But, you know, people are complex. And Peggy Joe's niece also recalls in the Texas Monthly article

How warm and nurturing her aunt was She says when she came over to babysit me and my brothers She made up funny games for us to play She cooked as popcorn I mean cooking popcorn a bit of it Cooked us popcorn Dave, would you count that as one of the meals you can cook? That's cooking

That one someone tells me that making nachos Isn't cooking nachos It's fucking cooking! I'm putting them in the oven I'm putting the popcorn on the stove Where do you draw the line? is toast cooking. Yes.

You're cooking? Okay. Uncooked toast. Sure, that's bread. Yeah. Cooked bread? You're looking at toast. That's true. Okay.

Boil of cereal? Putting milk on cereal. Is that cooking? No heat. Okay. It's involved. So warm milk? Oh, if you boiled that milk.

Yeah. Like this morning I had porridge for breakfast, oats on the stove. I cooked that better. Yeah. Okay. Cooked oats. Yeah.

Cook porridge. Okay. Yeah. Cooked popcorn. It's good to know. I mean, it's not praiseworthy for an article. No. But technically, that's cooking.

Okay. Okay. So the heat is the key. It's just an niece recalling nice memories, I guess. Yeah. You don't cook a salad. You prepare a salad. Right. So it's combining at least two, no, not even two ingredients because popcorn is just one ingredient. So it's one ingredient and heat is cooking. Dull, flavourless popcorn. You got to add butter. You got out salt.

What if it's like a pasta salad where you've had to cook the pasta first? Oh, yeah, you've cooked that pasta. So that's a cooked salad. Cook the pasta, prepare the salad. Okay. Okay. Combine the two. Yeah, right. Wow. Busy day. for Jess.

No, that's a two-pessing job. Anyway, her niece recalling. She cooked his popcorn. And at the end of the night, she told us ghost stories. She truly had a heart of gold. She scared the shit out of us. Gave us not meant. Yeah, the stories were just her life.

It's got me real hyped up on salt. Peggy Joe Tallis's carefree and wildlife hit a few setbacks by the mid-70s. She'd fallen in love with a man who lived near Dallas and was feeling up. Okay, this is going to be cowboy Bob. Finally. We made him. Next twist. Was feeling hopeful about a shared future.

But Karen Young said a few months later, the relationship was over. Peggy Joe had gone to the town where the man lived. And killed him. No. And seen his car in a parking lot. She went over to say hello, only to find a woman behind the wheel. After a quick chat, Peggy Joe discovered this woman was driving her husband's car that day. Peggy Joe had no idea the man she'd fallen in love with was married and she was completely devastated.

Oh. And not long after that heartbreak, she moved into an apartment in Irving to live with her mother who was battling a degenerative bone disease. She was in a way forced to settle down for a while and put some of her carefree dreams away. She worked at a nearby computer factory and later took an office job for a mobile home construction company. Her closest friends got married and Cherry moved away. And although she apparently had plenty of chances to start another relationship, she was pretty keen to keep her distance from men.

I don't think she was ever able to get over the pain of the betrayal from the the married man, Karen said. I think she decided to be alone. So this wild young woman with dreams of adventure and freedom had found herself middle-aged and somewhat isolated. Her mother's medical bills were overwhelming and the financial and emotional stress of being a care for a mother was incredibly, you know, hard. From Texas Monthly again, I think she was beginning to feel like she could never catch up, said Cherry, who occasionally came down from Oklahoma City to visit. She was just too proud to ask anyone for help. She liked helping people. She didn't want people to help her. Cherry paused, and there's another thing that was going on with her, she finally said.

This is hard to explain, but I think Peg was starting to feel, well, like her life was slipping away. It's the way women get sometimes. Cherry, don't you speak for all of us? Mine slipped away years ago. It's not slipping. It's gone. You get to a place in your life and you start looking back and you say to yourself that it's not working out the way you hoped. You think everything is slipping away and you feel, I don't know, crazy. You want to scream or something. Cherry paused again. I think Peg missed being wild at heart. Skip Hollinsworth, beautiful words.

Now, this article's written pretty sympathetically towards Peggy Joe. It's all about, it focuses a lot on like, oh, you know, she was fun and wild and free, and now she has to care for people. Oh, because of this freaking married man. How do you reckon that came up in a combo? So she says, and the car, oh, oh, oh, oh, you're, oh, hey, how are you doing? I'm sorry to, to bother you.

I thought this was my friend's car. I must have got the wrong car. And she might have said, it's my husband's car. Oh, that's good. Oh, how nice. Oh, yeah, your husband's car? Jerry, this is Jerry's car. Ah, and how do you explain who you are?

Oh, I'm a friend of Jerry's. That's us. Men can't have women friends. No, no, we... I'm an enemy of Jerry's. I read his poetry. Jerry doesn't write poetry? No, no, love letters.

Oh, no. I've said too much. Like she's protected him for some reason. Yeah. Maybe protecting the wife. Yeah, who knows? The wife. The wife.

So, yeah, it's quite sympathetic towards Peggy Joe. You can see some of the motivation behind why she did what she did, financial stress, feeling like there's no escape from it. Also just feeling like you've lost a part of yourself that used to be so important. And then loving the movie about a couple of bank robbers. Yeah. Yeah. Being inspired by film.

Cowboy bank robbers too. We've all been guilty. Yeah. Being inspired by film. Yeah. That's why I took up modelling because of Zoolander. Yeah. You're so good at it.

Working out for you? Yeah. And he can turn left. After the FBI's Steve Powell interviewed bank employees and watched the surveillance tapes, he had no doubt he was dealing with a professional bank robber. Texas Monthly again. Peggy Joe did not commit any of the amateur mistakes that many first time bank robbers make. She kept her head down so security cameras could not get a good shot of her face.

She didn't fidget as the teller read her note. During those long seconds that ticked away as the tellers pulled the money out of her draw, she remained absolutely silent, saying nothing. Then came that long walk out of the bank. When she had to be wandering if a security guard she'd not seen was coming up behind her, a gun in his hand. But she did not break into a run, nor did she squeal away in her car, running red lights, and drawing more attention to herself.

So she just kind of very calmly left the bank, got in the car, drive away. That's so badass. That is real badass. It is pretty bad ass. You can just quietly walk away. But also just the fact that she's wearing a fake beard. Yeah. And no one ever went, well, that's someone wearing a fake beard, possibly a woman.

You know? Like none of the tellers ever said. She must have done a very good job with her costumes. Yeah. Managing to evade police, Peggy Joe struck a few more times. In January 92, she hit Texas Heritage Bank in Garland for approximately $3,000. It's a bit better money. In May, she got $5,300 from Nations Bank in the adjoining suburb of Mesquist.

Now we're talking. And in September, Cowboy Bob robbed first Gibraltar Bank in Mesquite of $1,700. Police arrived quickly, followed 10 minutes by FBI, and they tracked the license plate to a Mesquite resident who, predictably, went outside to his driveway to find his license plate missing. So good. So they get there pretty quickly after the bank's been hit. FBI are close behind.

I really hope that she didn't get done. The crime wasn't a theft of money, but it was unlawfully borrowing. Yeah. Unlawful use of money. While agents were conducting their investigations at First Reboulter Bank, a call came in that Mesquite's first interstate bank, another bank, only about a mile away, had just been robbed by a man and a beard,

a cowboy hat, a leather coat and gloves. And this time, $13,700 have been taken. It's the big time. Cowboy Bob is out again, shouted pal. Jumping in his car and racing towards first interstate. Son of a bitch, she said, apparently. It has that big vibe. I'll get you.

Goddamn son of a bitch. Robbed one bank, robbed another bank a mile down the road. That's sick. Back to back. The other thing is, like, over like six months or whatever this is, you think that they'd start,

I suppose it's Texas, you're right, start to look out for someone with a beard, a long leather jacket, a cowboy habit, I just realized that, yes, that's probably less. Oh no, Texas Ranger,

Walker's been taken in. So that kind of brings us back to the point of the story where we left off, with Agent Powell realizing that Peggy Joe tells was the bank robber he'd been chasing. He read Peggy Joe her rights and drove her to the downtown FBI office where other agents were waiting. Gentlemen, Powell said, Cowboy Bob is actually Cowboy Babette.

Oh, God, was he workshopping that in the day? The whole drive to figure someone out. She's in the back. He's like, what do you reckon if I say this? Babette. He must have been so proud of it, hey? Babette. Ah? Ah, standing up.

Dave, punch it up, please. Cowboy Babs. Cowboy Babs. It's still shit, isn't it? It's still bad. But it's better than Babette. Cowgirl, Bob? Yeah. That'd be better.

That's better. It would be clear of Cowboy Babette. I feel like everyone would be like, yeah. What? Yeah. Rim goes silent with confusion. And then Peggy Joe's like, I told you it wouldn't work.

Yeah. Fuck. Honestly, let's go out and come back in. Try the one I suggested. Let's remember. This is a guy who took a few extra beats to realize that the clothing and hat and fake beard didn't belong to a man, which in a sense is kind of understandable

because it's estimated that women commit less than 5% of bank robberies that take place in the US. This article was written in 2005. We won't have equality until 50%. But this is written in 2005 and there was like 7,600 bank robberies that year. And so it's less than 5%. We're never going to run out of reports. Oh my God.

Yeah, I know. And only a few of those women, who rob more than a bank or two before they quit or get caught. So for it to be this long streak over a year, statistically, it's understandable why they assumed it had to be a man, but still when in her closet is a fake beard and the hat, you're like... You've tracked down already the number plate. I love the idea that he still walks into custody.

Guys, turns out Cowboy Bob is married. The Cowboy Babette. We're still on the park. Still can't get the guy. She's being pretty tight-lipped about where hubby is. Yeah. She just won't, we're going to crack it. So she's arrested, and although she remained pretty tight-lipped about,

about, you know, everything that had happened, she eventually pleaded guilty to the robberies. A few things worked in her favor when it came to sentencing. The fact that she'd never used a weapon of any kind during the robberies meant her sentence wasn't going to be as long. Plus, she was white, and the defense really leaned into the, oh, looked like she just went a bit crazy. Really lent him.

to that middle-aged, soft-spoken, pretty white lady. They went, I think she just sort of snapped. Yeah. She went a bit nuts. She's sorry, though. That is less illegal. She's sorry. She went, ooh-oh.

She went a bit loopy. She just had a little, you know, she had a little, you know, she had a moment. Who amongst us hasn't had a moat? Probably menopause. You know, they really lent into it, which is real fun. So she was sentenced to 33 months in federal prisons, so just under three years, which she served. And unlike everyone-

And she got to keep the cash. He's got to keep the cash. So that's waiting for her when she gets out, which is great. An accumulating interest. Yeah. Unlike everyone else who goes to prison, Peggy Joe actually hated being locked up. Oh. Yeah, she didn't like it.

Well, she is wild at heart. Exactly. She can't. How can you cage this wild bird? Bird. Bird. When? Bird.

Bird. That's your character again. Roll on a bank. Put the bird. did a cage. When family visited, she refused to talk about the robberies other than to say it would never happen again. To blame my lesson.

So she's released from prison. It's like the mid-90s by this time. She and her mother moved to a new area, away from the people who know she was a bank robber. So she got a job as a cashier at a marina at Lake Ray Hubbard outside of Dallas. And life seemed to settle. And Peggy Joe earned a new reputation around town,

one very different to her bank robbing days. She was one of our best employees, said Susie Leslie, who was then the manager at the marina. Not once did the money in the cash register come up short on her shift. And what I loved about Peggy Joe was that she checked on the lower income customers. She was constantly pulling out her own money to help some of the families pay for bait. And I know she used to give some money to a man out here who had been in prison and was still down on his luck. One day I asked her why she did that.

And she said, well, we've all got a past, you know? So it's like she learned a lesson. She was like, I'm going to help out other people. That's lovely. But why is the paper interviewing this marina, Yeah, fantastic. She lived a pretty quiet, somewhat isolated life. She'd lost touch with her old friends, Karen and Cherry.

She spent all of her time outside of work looking after her aging mother. In December 2002, her mother, Helen, died peacefully in her sleep. At the age of 83, Susie said she was relieved her mother was no longer in pain, yet you could tell she was still heartbroken. She couldn't talk about Helen without tears coming to her eyes. Yeah, like, fair enough. At Helen's funeral, Peggy Joe and her brother Pete reconciled. they hadn't really been on the best terms for quite some time.

Pete, this sounds like a cowboy bob type. You're still looking for him. Well, it's obviously not the... It can't be Peggy Joe. She's taking the fall for somebody else. She later went to the annual Christmas dinner that Pete and his wife put on for the Talas family. She was friendly to all of us and she loved on the kids. And when I asked her what she was going to do now,

she said she had some plans, Pete said. But she never told me what they were. So you didn't ask follow-up questions? Rude. Bad conversationalist. A couple of years moved by and Peggy Joe was now 60 years old. She bought an RV in 2004 and told

Susie it was time for her to move on. She said she was going to put some money together and head down to Padre Island or to Mexico and live on the beach like she'd always wanted to, Susie recalled. That was her dream. Yeah, she's like got an RV. Stoked. Go live on the beach.

She told me I ought to come along while I had the chance before life ran out on us. I'll never forget her saying that before life ran out on us. It's a bit full on. Peggy Joe sold her stuff, furniture, her car. gave her potted plants to a neighbour, and she drove off. She didn't go too far initially.

For a few weeks, she stayed at a public park near Lake Ray Hubbard, spending part of the day fishing or walking along the shore. Her niece, Michelle, would occasionally visit. She and Peggy Joe would sit on folding chairs next to the RV. Peggy would drink Pepsi out of a coffee cup and smoke menthol cigarettes. What a combo. I know. Michelle says she'd watch the sunset, and then she'd go inside the RV

and pull out a skillet and cook up some fajita meat with truette. topped onions. You know, it wouldn't have been the life I would have chosen for myself, but I couldn't help but admire her doing her own thing and doing it her way. That sounds awesome to me. She loved being completely free. Pretty good. Skip Hollinsworth. In the late summer of 2004, Peggy Joe left a telephone message for Carla Dunlap, a friend from the marina. When Carla had developed breast cancer the previous year, Peggy Joe had checked on her nearly every day and had bought her a cap to wear when her hair began to fall out from chemotherapy. On the message she asked how I was doing and she said she was about to hit the road,

Carla said, and then she said, and no matter what happens to me, always remember that I love you. Concerned, Carla's husband John drove out to the park to see if he could find her and perhaps give her some money, but she was already gone. It's not entirely clear where she went over the next few months. People said they'd seen her driving the RV through many East Texas towns. And some would say they'd seen her in Tyler in October 2004, right about the time that an odd bank robbery occurred at the small guarantee bank on the southern edge of the city. That's funny coincidence. According to the tellers, the robber was an older man with a round stomach and a scraggly mustache.

He wore a dark, floppy hat, baggy clothes and gloves. He placed a green canvas bag on the counter and said, all your money, no bait bills, no blow-up money. Then after receiving a stack of cash, he walked out of the bank and down a street. No one got a glimpse of his getaway vehicle. One of the tellers did tell the FBI agents who was struck by the softness of the robber's voice. It sounded a bit feminine. What's more, the teller said the robber's mustache appeared to have been glued on, and his stomach looked more padded than real.

A lot of great info from this teller. He's very exervent. Unfortunately, Steve Powell had retired at this point. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure he would have had a pretty good idea of who they were looking for. The agents who were investigating this robbery, however, brought in an older male suspect to take a lie detector test. After he passed with flying colours, they began investigating other men.

Again. Makes sense. Does make sense. It's got to be a man out there. I think it's wild that she robbed so many banks and no one ever went, or what? You know, she's not even, it's just an implied threat. Just do it.

And I talk about this a little bit at the end as well. I listened to this other podcast about this. And they made a very good point. point of like bank tellers are trained that any any verbal note anything yeah just yeah give them the money the customer is always right the customer's always right but even that note or just somebody coming in if you can't see a weapon even them saying give me your money yeah if you don't the implication is violence of some kind yeah that's right so yeah it's pretty scary totally I like it's never worth.

Yeah. Never worth. But a funny response would be, or what? Yeah. And in this case, maybe it would pay off, I guess. But, yeah, is it worth the risk? No, I don't, no, I don't think it. It's wild, isn't it?

It's just wild that no one ever did. Yeah. Everyone's got a bit of hero in them, you know? I don't. I got zero hero in me. Zero hero. Oh my God. Roll over.

Take what you want. Here's the keys. Peggy Joe's own family certainly had no suspicions that she'd returned to her secret life. Periodically, throughout the fall of 2004 and the early months of 2005, she'd call them from pay phones, telling them she was doing fine, but never really, you know, going into too much detail. One afternoon, Michelle ran into Peggy Joe at a Walmart, and Peggy Joe was picking up supplies,

cartons of cigarettes and paper towels, and fajita meat. She loves that fajita meat and that skillet. Michelle said she seemed to be in great spirits. What is fajita meat? I know what fajitas are, I think? So I guess fajita meets the meat that goes inside of it? Yeah, it'd probably just be like a... Done the maths there.

It'd be like a minced beef or something. Right. Her brother Pete drove out to see her and the two spent a couple of hours looking through old family photos. And he said his sister seemed happy, was planning on packing up and heading off on one of her adventures very soon. Soon means the next day. It was May 5th, 2005, Peggy Joe woke up, made her bed, got dressed. She put on a black, long-sleeved shirt and a pair of black pants that she kept in a drawer. From a shelf, she grabbed a sandwich baggie filled with makeup and applied

some lipstick and some blush, and then she made her way to the front of the RV, where she kept a variety of sunglasses and wide-brimmed hats along with a couple of black wigs and hair extensions. After choosing a large black straw hat that came down over her forehead and a pair of black sunglasses, Peggy Joe slipped into the driver's seat and drove to Tyler, parking her RV, which just so happened to be parked across from a bank, the very bank that had been robbed the previous October. She walked through the front door of the bank, approached the teller and said, this is a robbery,

I need all of your money, don't set any alarms. The young teller emptied her drawers into Talas's satchel. This time it was 11,000. As a black American sold drawers like pants, he shot himself. Into the satchel.

Huh? There you go, there's your money. I've pooed all over it. You didn't tell me not to. Enjoy. There's 11,200 bucks. Nice. Enough to finally get to Mexico,

as Peggy had always dreamed of doing. Okay, one last job. So, you know, haste to get away, however, she made one simple mistake. She said, bye, my name's Peggy, bye. Dropped a business car. She didn't check for a die pack. It exploded as soon as she walked out at the door,

covering the money with red ink. A plume of red smoke also began to rise from the satchel, and she headed back across the street, dodging traffic to get to her RV. Drop the bag. Can't put she's using the RV as the getaway. I know. The red smoke obviously caught the attention of people on the street,

who called police immediately. Within minutes If you saw red smoke Would you be like Better call the cops Somebody running out of a bank Holding a bag That's smoking and covered in red dye

Yeah I probably would call the cops She wasn't running out of the bank It didn't happen until she was after Outside the bank Yeah so she's leaving the bank She's left the bank They're set off by you leaving the bank Right

Like those So it's not like she's done some other shopping And she's just in a chemist And it's gone off No but you're walking down the street Are you really going That old lady, I think she's just stolen some money. Better get the cops out.

That's literally the point of these die packs. Yeah, but Matt's no snitch. Is that what you're saying? But you are. You're saying that you would do that and you don't see it. I think it's weird to be on the stream. You're like, oh, yes, I get to dobb in this old lady. Oh, so it's just because it's an old lady.

Oh, in this case it is. And so if she'd murdered someone, I shouldn't tell anybody about it because she's an old lady. I think that's what they call a straw man argument there, Bob. I would just watch and I'd be fixated I love when he said one time I saw some like a full of police chase and the guy got away and I was so excited for him the police were already aware of the situation

yeah yeah but I was so excited for the guy you're excited for him oh because he got away he got away and they're like people were chasing him that's fun that was fun I'm not saying I would call police but people did yeah snitches What town is this?

Snitchville. Snitchville? In minutes, law enforcement officers were tailing the RV. As it turns out, like, FBI agents were nearby, too. So it's like bad timing. The RV is struggling up a hill. Oh. No, it's still smoking.

The police cars are just, like, following. It looks like a Cheech and Chong style. Police chase. Suddenly, she hit the brakes, turned into a quiet, middle-class neighborhood at the edge of the city. She turned into a street and a couple of police cars raced past her to box her in. Officers leapt out of their cars surrounding the RV, handguns drawn. The officers had no idea who was in the RV.

They didn't know it was her. They didn't know anything. They're like, they assume that there's a bunch of accomplices in there as well. I mean, it's an RV. It can fit a lot of people. So, yeah, they're like, it's probably, they're assuming and they're behaving as if it's full of armed accomplices. Or for he to meat. One of the two. It's always one of the two. We hope for fajita meat, but more often than not, it's guys with guns. If my day had a little more for heater meat than I'll tell you what. Anyway, so SWAT officers yelled commands at the RV and a standoff lasted several minutes. From Skip Hollinsworth again, finally Peggy Joe went back to her bedroom where a 757 magnum loaded with hollow point bullets was hidden under a pillow.

But she didn't touch that gun. Instead, she picked up a toy pistol that she also kept in the bedroom. She'd bought it, apparently, to carry with her in case she ever needed to threaten a bank employee in future robberies. She walked to the door and opened it, her hands at her side. The police officers who had surrounded the RV couldn't believe what they were seeing, an unassuming woman in a wide-brimmed hat, a woman who was the age of their grandmothers. Well, can't believe what we're saying, a woman in a hat. Are you being held hostage by a man?

Where is the man? woman. Oh no. So she's, to them, is there any difference, like, legally in a toy gun or a real gun?

Like, would the charge be less? If she's used in a bank robbery or something? Yeah. I don't know. Because, I mean, the bank teller wouldn't, I don't think so.

Yeah, right. Because I wouldn't necessarily know. I guess it depends on the jurisdiction, maybe. Yeah, it's a good question. When I'm disappointed,

you don't know about Texas law a little more. Sorry, I did really put this together quickly. You've phoned this in, Bob. I really have. Normally you would pass the local bar. So I'm going to talk about any kind of crime. A little old lady has come out and they're like, you know, come out with your hands up or whatever. She says, like, you're going to have to kill me.

Ma'am, you don't have to do this, replied one of the police officers. You mean to tell me if I come out here with a gun and point it at your, you're not going to shoot me? Please don't. Please don't do that, yelled another officer. So they're asking her, they're like, they're pleading with her. Peggy Joe Talas took a step out of the RV, and as she moved her arm, it was revealed she was holding a gun. Four officers fired and all four hit her. She died instantly.

The SWAT team, still assuming that there were other people in the RV, shot tear gas canisters into the RV and then stormed to the front door. It's already full of red smoke. I don't think the thing's still smoking. Is it? He's got a lot of juice in the sun. Jeez, and these can't. So obviously, this version of events is the official police story. That we begged her not to.

Yeah, there's actually a person living on the street got his video camera out. Oh, wow. And was filming it. And you can hear them. Right. Apparently on the tape, they are saying, like, please don't. So they discovered she was alone, and that although she did have a real gun with her in the RV, the one she was holding was a fake.

They found a little baggie of pot and her purse, which had like 38 bucks in cash in it and a driver's license. Oh, the devil's leaf. The devil's leaf. No, what was it? The devil's lettuce. Devil's lettuce. An FBI agent, Jack Millslegel. Spicy leaf.

Are you kidding me? Mills Slegel. Mill Slegel, yes. Incredible. And who might you be? Jack. Jack Mills Slegel. FBI agent ran a check on the license and realized that the woman was Cowboy Bob.

He called Steve Pellell. Powell at his ranch and left him a message saying he had some bad news about his old nemesis. Powell called back. Say it isn't so, he said. I wanted to be the one to shoot her dead. No, he was a bit like, he was a bit sad about it because Joe, so Mileslegel said, I'm afraid we killed Peggy Joe.

So yeah, that's pretty much the story of Cowboy Bob. Skip sums it up a little bit. He says, for the FBI, of course, the biggest question was how many other banks had Peggy Joe robbed? Some agents wondered if she had tried a bank robbery or two back in the 60s when she was a free wheeling young woman tooling around Dallas in her Burgundy Fiat. Others wondered if she'd begun her career in the 70s when she had been caught stealing the pickup. It's not an uncommon practice after all for a bank robber to avoid detection by using a stolen

car as a getaway vehicle and then later abandoning it. Still, others wondered if she'd returned to robbing banks soon after her release from prison. After studying the evidence from the October 2004 robbery at Guarantee Bank, Mills-Lagel did conclude that Peggy Joe was the robber, the one in October where it was you know, an old guy with a round belly and a beard and stuff. But that only led to other questions. Why had she gone back to that bank? Was she imitating her hero's Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, who had once robbed the same train twice? And why didn't she dress as a man for the second guarantee robbery? Why also did she decide to speak to the teller instead of handing the teller a note?

Was she hoping that FBI agents would study the bank surveillance tapes and realize she had returned? Some people kind of see her end as a bit of a one last hurrah. Perhaps she was a little lost. Like one of her friends said, feeling like life had sort of slipped her by. And it's tough as well because the article that Skipped Hollinsworth wrote in 2005, which was like, you know, not long after this had happened. It's one of the best and most comprehensive sources on the story. There isn't a whole heap of information out there, but Skip's done this really big sort of article back then. But it's very sympathetic and it makes you root for Peggy Joe a lot.

Yeah, I was definitely rooting for it. For sure. But another podcast that I listened to, and I was mentioning this before, it's true crime campfire. they kind of talk about like the toy gun was purchased basically to force a cop to shoot her like it was it was for this. Yes, that's what it sounded like. Yeah, and they kind of talk about that act and how manipulating someone into shooting

you is a really cruel thing to do because to sort of threaten shoot me or I'll shoot you and then aim what looks like a gun is a pretty cruel thing to do because that's sort of what they... It sounds like she even put it in pretty straight. You'll have to shoot me. Yeah, I know. And they also talk about the fact that we often see these kinds of crimes as victimless. And while no one lost their lives or was hurt in her robberies, the tellers she robbed were

mostly really young. A lot of them were fresh out of high school. And just because she didn't show them a gun didn't mean she didn't have one or there wasn't a threat of violence or like a threat to their lives. Yeah. So the probable odds are. Some of them might have not had any effects, but you'd imagine some had PTSD or whatever. And even talking about like a couple of the young police officers needed a lot of counselling and stuff after it to, you know, it's very complex. I just think it's worth noting that sort of stuff rather than just looking at it from Skip's article, which is very sympathetic. He ends on a quote from her childhood friend Cherry, which I think is so funny, especially after just discussing those other factors.

This is Cherry saying, I think about her walking out of that bank, six. years old, that bag full of money, and I have to say that she went out doing what she loved. We'll never understand it, but she was doing exactly what she loved. I wish I could write her a note and say, good for you, my sweet peg, good for you. Oh, it's kind of nice, I guess. It is a nice. But also, it's such a sad, awful end, isn't it? Doing what she loved, Robin Banks.

Robin Banks. What, she went down, what, uh, Butch Cassidy style, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Her favourite movie. So it seems very much like, I mean, I think maybe to some people, initially kind of going like, why wasn't she dressed up? Why did she just go as herself? I think that was sort of the plan all along.

And the fact that she didn't check for the, she was always really diligent with checking for die bombs and stuff. I think the way her story and her life ended was how she wanted it to end. Or that was sort of the plan of that day. Yeah, there were like, did she not change the number plates that day? She was in the RV. Yeah, yeah, all that sort of stuff. So, yeah, that is the pretty wild story of Cowboy,

Bob. Cowboy Bob. And they never got him. Can't believe it. Well, Peggy Joe was the only link and she never told him. Yeah, that's amazing because she never spoke right until the end. Yeah. Never gave away the identity.

Never gave it up. And he must have been close by. Yeah. Because it was always like where she was. Yeah. You know what I mean? He got out of the RV somehow. They didn't notice.

Maybe he's like hiding on the toilet. They just didn't check the John. They never took the toilet. check the John. Well, you can't. You got to have a limit. People have to have privacy. They probably not.

Yeah. Didn't hear anything and went, well, obviously someone's on there. Occupato. Oh, sorry. Sorry about that. All good. All good. So there we go.

Thank you to Liz for suggesting that topic. Yeah, I love hearing the story I've never heard anything about. Yeah. I know how local Liz is this. I'm pretty sure Liz Lafiva is a Texan. Yeah, well, that could be why. Oh, great. Well, anyone can suggest a topic at any time via our website, do go onpod.com.

and if you reckon you've got a story that is more maybe local to your area that we in Melbourne Australia may not have heard of and it's cool, exciting or interesting for some reason, send us in. I've had that one kind of like, I made a little note of it. I must have seen it in the hat at one point. I made a note of it of like maybe that would be a good bonus episode or maybe I could, yeah, maybe it be a future topic. And I think Liz kind of sold it to me with,

It's a great bank robbing story with a lot of heart, a crazy surprise twist, and a 10-gallon hat. And I was like, I'm listening. Yeah. I think that's a great pitch, which really does help when we're going through the thousands of suggestions. That's right. When I put them up to the vote, I'll put that in next to the topic as well. So it also is sort of pitching it to the vote as well. Yeah, which is great.

We must have done, what, about a dozen bank robbery stories? And I think the maths works out that that is maybe the first lady bank robbery we have. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, other than like Bonnie and Clyde, do they rob banks and stuff? They did. They did actually, you're right. But yeah. Yeah, and statistically, it's a very small number, especially on this scale. So, you know, good on her for having that title.

You know, proving what women can do. Well, you know, being accomplished to Bob. That's right. Well, now it's time for everyone's favorite section of the show where we get to thank some of our fantastic Patreon supporters. Without these people, this show doesn't exist. They keep it going. They keep the lights on and the microphones on.

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They're ready to go. It's over 150 hours of bonus content to unlock in seconds. You can also get involved in our Facebook group, which is what a lot of people describe, as one of the nicest corners of the internet. Not me, though. Mercilessly bullied in there. Yeah.

We shouldn't have called the group, fuck you, Jess. That was a mistake. But, you know, hindsight's 2020. That's what I really set the tone. Jez is just joking, of course. She is the bully in there. Do not cross her. Don't cross me.

I'll kill you. Thankfully no one has, so we haven't seen your nasty side for a long time. There's a bunch of different things. You can also vote on topics and all sorts of other things. But one of the levels, the Sydney-Shineberg level, if you sign up there or above, you get to give us a factor quote or a question. I'll read out four of those every week. And I don't read them until I read them out just in case I fumble on anything.

That's why, okay? Okay. The first one comes from... Hang on, hang on, hang on. Again. Yeah. You've forgotten. Oh, my goodness.

And the way we get into this one, I think it has a little jingle go somewhere like this. Fact quote or question. Bing! He always remembers the ding. She always remembers the sing. The vibrato on that one. I don't always remember to do that bit, though,

because I think I forgot it a few weeks ago. No one mentioned it, though. No one noticed. That hurts. Does anyone listen to this bit? It's everyone's favorite bit, Dave. Shut up. All right.

So the first one this week comes from David, a place to hang your Cape Malofsky. And David has given himself the title, and everyone gets to give themselves a title of Vice Chairman of Synesthesia. Ooh. And David has offered a fact, which is, I thought I would give some facts about colors. In brackets, fullness, TBD. I don't know what that means. He continues.

I have synesthesia. which is a condition where your senses cross. For instance, some people taste sounds or hear sense. I interpret all my senses in colours. I hear music in colour, see sense in colour, see things that I touch, and read letters and numbers in colour. Gosh, that sounds so cool. I used to, I mean, I don't think this is the same thing at all. But I used to, well, I think I still do associate letters and numbers with colours.

But he says, for instance, MS is red yellow. That's interesting. MS for me is green yellow. JP is brown pink and DW is green, silver. Holy shit, that's a good combo. You got a real slithering one there, Dave. Sucked in. I got brown pink.

Brown pink's awesome. That's ice cream. Chocolate and strawberry. Is there enough for each letter of the alphabet? Like how specific are you going with shade and tone for? I mean, he's used silver. I think you could come up with 26 colors. Turquoise.

Wow. Sage. Light blue, dark blue. Serrice. For example. But yeah, that does sound. I mean, it potentially isn't, I'm not sure, but it sounds cool. Sounds like that Rolling Stone song, Paint it Black.

No. What is it? I see colors everywhere. She's got hair. I see colors. Roughly two. Poetry. 2% of the population is believed to have synesthesia.

For reference, around 8% of men are colorblind. This means between around 5% of the population experiences colors differently to the way that you do or if you're in the minority, like, me, 99% do. In addition, because colours are names for various frequencies of light, which in turn is a selection of frequencies of the electro-magnetic spectrum, x-rays, microwaves, Wi-Fi, and purple are all names for the same thing. Shout out to the patrons I met at Dave's London Booksheet show, who approved this fact as fact-quoted or question-worthy. Oh, that's nice. Is it a workshop? Yeah, that's right. It went around the bar, maybe. That's great, yeah. Love it. Very interesting.

I think that's fascinating. I'm not sure, because I, I used to think that I had it because of that color thing, but then I started to think maybe as a kid there was a poster on my wall that had all the letters and numbers and they're all different colors and maybe that's why I do. I'm not 100% sure. Anyway, thank you so much for that, David. The next one comes from Daniel Ryan, aka chief patron of ignoring requests for new fax quotes and Daniel Ryan has offered us a question, which is,

I reckon was Daniel Ryan the guy who started, he started a spreadsheet thing that documented where everything started and different running jokes and stuff? Maybe a Reddit thing or something. That's a vague memory. What colour is that memory? Red. It. Anger.

Daniel writes, I never know what to send in, so I never send anything in. My question is, if you could live in any movie. idolized era, which would you choose, i.e. Pride and Prejudice type Victorian, Roaring 20s, etc. And as I always suggest, if you've got a question, please give us an answer. Yeah, answer your own question. And Daniel does that here saying, for me, I'm currently playing Red Dead Redemption too. I call that Cowboys. I heard Ben Russell say that once, so I'd say that every time that comes like, oh yeah, I call that playing Cowboys. And it's an old West game. So I guess that will be my choice for now.

I reckon I know Dave's. It's going to be Poirot. Definitely. What's that, what's that architecture style? A bit of Art Deco. Love art deco stuff. My gosh, I love it. Is that like 20s to 40s, kind of?

Yeah, maybe a little bit earlier too. Yeah, right. And, yeah, I think that that would be my pick. Can I have to start saying 1920s? Because we're in the 20s now. Holy shit. Holy shit. We're doing it.

That makes you think, doesn't it? Yes. Can't turn it off O'Brien's ticking now What about you, Bob? Do you have a... Jetsons. The future.

Which is, I think, now in the slight past. Yeah, but I want their version of it. Yeah. Oh, okay, yeah. Like, hoverboards and stuff and little... Tubes to get sucked in. Yeah. I'm thinking of something else.

Chips to get sucked in. Glory tubes. No. You know those transport tubes. Or am I thinking of future armour? I think they're both have a sense. similar sort of thing. Yeah, geez, that's a good question.

Do you know that Midnight and Paris movie where they go back to when that writer Hemingway's in it? Hemingway era. That the guy with the pen and the... Yeah, and it was like, it was, I think the whole message of that was you're always going to feel nostalgic for another time. You go back to that time, you're like, that's the ideal time. he goes back there and there's someone there who's idolizing a different time

nostalgiaically but yeah I was like both those times I'm like they both look sick oh yeah I'll think either yeah uh missing the point entirely probably uh it also took me a while to realize that they'd even go on back a second time I'm like they're both olden days yeah they're both the past yeah and like he says it's the idolized movie version because I'm like I'm always like uh I'd hate any time where it's smoking indoors everywhere yeah And medicine is leeches and stuff, you know? Yeah.

Also, it would depend on, like, what part of society you're in, like in Prud and Pritchardous. It's, like, there are, well, a lot of the people around them are quite wealthy. Which is the, it's a regency era, by the way, it's not Victorian. Just in case I'm sure there's people at home to be screaming at their iPods over that. But if you're... If they are, that is going to be one of the worst screaming at your iPods things ever. Let me know if you were... Actually, Prud and Prud and actually...

Which I love. I think the worst screaming at the iPods over. the better. Yeah, I love it too. But, yeah, like if you're in any of those eras growing up in extreme poverty or that kind of stuff, that would really affect your lens. Yes. Wouldn't it?

Yeah. For more people, probably now is the idealist time to have lived than ever. I mean, it's still not perfect. Isn't it? Yeah, right. I guess for the most people, I'd say. I'd like to take the amount of money I have now. Oh, yeah.

And then go back to, like, my parents for my age. I'm just crush. and just buy like three houses on one day. Just like, pow, pow, pow. That one. I'll buy this block. Like, you're playing Monopoly? Yeah.

You're not buying houses. You're buying streets. So good. I'll take Regent Street. Thank you. Thank you. It's not for sale. Well, let me write you a check.

$30,000. Oh, Miss Perkins right this way. Once you see my plastic bank notes, you're going to be pretty impressed. Thank you for that question. Daniel. I don't you think that would be, maybe it's not the case. I just think because the population of the world is bigger than it's ever been before. Aren't there more people alive now than have ever lived before?

Yeah, sure. So you're thinking about math number rather than percentage of. Okay, then yeah. But I mean, I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about, of course. Then why do you keep talking? I don't know. Just move on then. Just move on then.

Just move on then. Well, the problem is people have still heard it. Right. Yeah, but I'm enduring this now. Well, they're enduring this now too. and I apologize. I can't apologize any more sincerely. I wish you would.

I can really apologize. That actually comes from Aiden. Oh no, this is a name. I would say Coglin, but I think he's corrected me a few times because I think he's from Ireland or something and it's colon maybe,

but in Australia you'd pronounce this Coglin. But maybe the G's... Let's say Aiden Cullen, Aiden Coglin, and I apologize. us. Aidan's title is the smash boy

to your orange Ricky. Oh, that's nice. We found out after the Tetris episode that those names, that was a hoax

that, you know, like even Jeopardy fell for the TV show. And, but yeah, I think it's so good that I reckon,

and a few people suggest this, let's just make it the reality. Yeah. Orange rookie is so good. Dave, you miss it,

but there was There's hoaxing that went around online where they named all the blocks on Tetris. You've caught up now. All right, Aidan. That had a few people screaming at their iPods. Aidan is offering a suggestion. Fantastic. Writing years ago, for some reason, that I don't fully understand,

I wrote lyrics to the Tetris music. So if someone DM'd me a cover song, it was like a metal version of this song. and I was a day, like I got home from a big day at a pub or something. And I listened the first 20 seconds and I replied, that's so good. What is it? And they replied like the next day, loll, the Tetris theme song. I'm like, I just didn't listen beyond.

You're like, wow, this is great. Yeah, this is fantastic. Why did you send this to me? I love it. What is it? Yeah, it was exactly like that. Anyway, so Aidan's written lyrics to the Tetris music. Since then, I haven't been able to hear the song without singing them in my head.

And unfortunately, the same is true for pretty much everyone I've shared them with. With apologies to my fellow listeners, I would like for you to perform them. All right, let's see if we get the theme. Then, da-da-na-na-da-na-da-na-da-na-da-na-da-na-da-na-da-na. All right, here it is. Blocks falling down. there are blocks on the drop and you can't know you can't let them reach the top if they do it's the end for you so put them in a line and you'll be fine did i switch into the umpalumpus song a little but

you recovered it pretty nicely i think i can't this what i'm saying instrumental track versus singing along makes a lot harder i'm not sure i'm actually familiar with the tetris theme well not based on the way i sang and you probably know it if you're i loved it I used to, it was only like the last five years or so that I realized that I can't recreate melodies. Only now. I know, it's so funny. There must be so many awkward things that people just nodding at me. Going, uh-huh.

Oh, yeah, that song. Yeah, no, I love that one. Yeah, that's a fantastic one. Anyway, I've just finished my drink, so I've got to go. And finally this week, that was fantastic work, Aidan. Finally this week, Nathan Damon has a fact. and Nathan, aka, or with the title, a name that describes someone's position or job.

Oh, that's nice. A definition of a title. It is what it says on the tin. Nathan writes, Hey guys, it's been a while. Just wanted others to have a chance for a shout out over block. That's very sweet, Nathan. I hope everyone out there in DoGone Land is doing well.

So a fact. Well, I just finished listening to the Tetrisep where Jess mentioned that she couldn't give blood because she faints. I too can't give blood because my blood is way too powerful for normal people. Wow. Not really. I faint too. I fainted the first time and now I'm not allowed to give blood because I'm low iron.

So. My blood is too powerful, I guess. Sorry, it's too powerful, Mr Damon. Mr. Damon, we thank you for you. time today, but we can't use any of this. I'm afraid your blood has killed several people. Yes. They live so hard that they died.

He says, it's the weirdest thing. I can cut myself or something and be fine right up until I get treated. Then out I go. I can bleed all over the place and just, I love that this has obviously happened for him to know this. I can bleed all over the place and just keep working, but give blood and out I go. Well, I hope you all have. had a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, and depending on when this is read, happy Easter

everyone. Hey, happy Easter to you too, Nathan, it's way too early for Easter. Hey, I had a hot cross bun yesterday. I'm in. I love it. I love the two times of year, Easter and Christmas. I love a chocolate hot cross bun. Oh. But I'm not allowed to buy them because I'll eat them. Yeah. Whose rule is this? That's my own role. The supermarket's got your photo. That's your rule? These buns are too powerful. I had to do a self-imposed rule around these ginger bickies that I make because I make them and then I eat all of them too addictive. So I've had to...

You brought them in recently. Yeah, I've had to make them a Christmas time only. I might make a batch actually. I don't have a really make things, but I have that rule about Milo. Oh my God, yeah. I can't have it in the house. The big tin will last less than a week. Yeah.

Are you doing like one session a day or are you just doing multiple? It would be one session today, but it will be like... Huge sessions. Three quarter mug. Get this. Three quarters of Milo? Yeah, and then a milky screed on top. Don't, hang on.

This man is sick. I had a Milo last night. Dave's on the phone calling a doctor. Oh my God. You can powder, you'd be like coughing. I have to tell Matt about my Milo. Okay, please. So if you could just pipe down for a second, please.

We just heard the man's got a horrible addiction. Yeah, but I had one last night. quarter cup milo then like maybe two quarters milk and then the whole and then a quarter air yeah who's just empty um the the the whole base all the mylo just came up in one oh yeah i was like god damn i like just being able to like just get just through the milk a little bit you knock it with the spoon not a word you know what i mean and i just flop and i know but the whole thing came up and then it kind of goes a bit it's not as good I'll still, I'll, I have it.

I hate it. But it is, you just want to be able to just like. I would be in control. Yeah. Like you're mining for Milo gold. I knew you'd understand. Dave doesn't. They doesn't get it.

I love Milo, but I eat it the appropriate way. What? As they recommend. Yeah, a spoon and then stir it in. Oh, it's psycho. You have your little chalky milk? Yeah. It's actually three spoons.

Teaspoons. That's tiny. Yeah, three teaspoons. Yeah. Then, like, like, the equivalent of like, two shots of milk. stir it all together, get a nice pace going, get a lather. Then tip the rest of the milk to the top, then stir it all together and then the myelos along the top. Now, do you count this is cooking.

Straight in the microwave. You're cooking. No, I'll prefer a cold Milo, so it's just a preparation rather than a cook. Your Milo sucks. Our Milo's way better. Now, what you've got, I'll pour that into the top quarter. Yeah. I need four heaped tablespoons.

Yeah, it's got to be, like, I'm talking heaped. Yeah. I'm talking taller than why. Yeah. Tall. You're chode of my husband. The next thing we like to do is shout out to a few of our other fantastic supporters. Just normally comes up with a bit of a game based on the topic.

So I do. So I do. Is this their police alias or something like that? Like Cowboy Bob type thing? Yeah. Yeah. What the police call them. Yeah, love it.

Yeah. Because they're disguises something. Yeah. Yes, okay, what their disguise is. All right. Well, if I can kick us off. No. Okay.

No, just kidding. Go for it. I'd pick us off every week. It was just a good little joke. Yes. You've stopped me right in my tracks. The first person from address unknown. Can I only assume probably from deep within the fortress of the moles.

It's Callan Dumbrell. Dave, what's Callan Dumbrell dressed as? Scuba dive and Brent. Scoobie. Diver Dive and Brent. That's what they're calling him. And dressed as a fish. So the nickname didn't make sense.

Yeah, the cops in Molesville ain't too bright. Or they'd just do those nicknames that go for a bit of a journey before they. Scuba Diven, Brent. Stubber Divenbred is very funny. I've got like a, I think he's like a second cousin or something, but basically like an uncle type from the broader family named Brent. And I think it's such a great name. Brent's a great. And he's a real Brent.

Picture Brent? Yeah, got it. Mid-aged man. I'm looking at him. Love to loaded. That's him. Boring haircut. Sensible haircut.

Sorry, yeah. Sensible everything. You're setting your clock to that haircut. But a lovely guy. I always love catching up with him. If you're listening. Shout out, Brent. Sorry you had to find out this way.

Big Saints man. It was high up at the Saints at one point. What does that mean? Don't ask questions. Next? Next up. Also, From Address Unknown, probably also in the Fortress of the Moles, it's Aaron Fast.

Aaron Fast. Already a great name. Turtle Lady. Turtle Lady. She's always needing to go to the toilet. That's a cooling card. No, of course, she's dressed as a very turtly turtle. Like Dana Carvey-Rone.

I'm not turtural enough for the Turt Club. I never saw the movie, but I know that clip from previous. We watched it at a year seven sleepover and even then we were like, this sucks. What a shame. He really feels like he was a wasted talent. I know it sucks. He never got his proper shot at a movie career. Aaron Files.

To what was the name? Turtle lady. Turtle lady. Because turtles are slow. And Dana Carvey, one of his other famous characters was the church lady. So it's a real homage. It's nothing to do with Dana Carvey. It's because the last name is fast and turtles are slow.

Yeah, but the cops didn't. know that, so they couldn't have come up with a bit based on that, Jess. Um, come on. Let's get real here. And, uh, finally for me, I'd love to thank from Kingswood in New South Wales, Australia, Adam Van Eyke. Um, the physicist. Oh, that's good. The physicist.

So lab coat. Physics teacher at my school last name was Van Ike. I love it. You just look at something. You just take these fresh. That's great. And it's often, I mean, the fast one, I sort of drew that one. But you could nearly always just get away with sounding like you've got a creative brain.

I'd just like to be open with you guys. Show your workings out. I want to be honest. Much like Mr. Van Ike always suggested. That's right. Great guy, just retired. Really, congratulations to the great career. Yeah. Good for men. I've enjoyed your... One time... Was he one of the weirdos? No, he was the one who at a swimming carnival one time, a girl started to struggle in the water, and he jumped in and saved her. And it was a real hero to us after that. Van Eyck, a bit of Van Hogan Band about him.

Yes, absolutely. One of the all-time great names, Peter Van Hoganbaden. Nailed it. I wonder, yeah, and he's Adam Van Eyck also in his getaway Van Eyke. A little joke for himself, because obviously the cops didn't know that. Hey, Dave, would you like to thank a few? I'd love to thank from Balgaula in New South Wales. Never heard of that place, but I've loving it already.

Balgaula. Balgala, big shout out to Courtney. Courtney, from Balgala. Beetle. Oh, the fifth beetle. Fifth beetle. Dresses up, you know, old school beetle style, mop-top haircut. Yeah, love that.

Maybe those fluoro kind of sod and peppers style. So it's a mash-up of eras. Of eras. Just really blending in the back. No, but that's the thing. The suit is beige. It's not one of the, it's not the pink or the blue or whatever that they actually use. Right.

The fifth girl was beige. So it's the type of thing that people would look at and go, that would be so beautiful in a bright color. Yeah. That's a great nickname. The beige beetle. The beige beetle. The beige beetle. The beige beetle is struck again. That's good. That's good, Courtney. Asking for some Lucy in the sky with diamonds. We've only got cash here. Courtney, we're so sorry. How, I'd like to thank from an unknown location. Wow. The fortress is full tonight. For our patrons listening, if you want your address in there, you can change it. You just got to go into your back end. We can't change it from our end. And that will also mean you get the Christmas card.

Look, if we can't change it in the back end, we can't guess your address. We are. We're sending these. We still send a Christmas card to all these. We just write mole. Yeah, that's right. Molltopia. Darsons went to the Mollotopia.

And the post office say, do you really want us to send these? We'll charge you. And we say send them. Send them. Send them. And I'll watch them put them in the. bin. Yeah.

All right, I would like to do shout out to this fortress resident Josh Hillman. Oh, Hillman. What about... He's not even hiding that he's been a molehill. The mole hill. The mole hill. But nicknamed the tennis racket. Oh.

Wow. He is dressed as a tennis racket. Okay. That's good, yeah. How did the cops come up with it? You know, some... The tennis racket band it. It's just the tennis racket.

I like that. I mean, isn't it usually the media coming up with it as well? You know? Yeah. I was wondering if Cowboy Bob, the actual Cowboy Bob, were she annoyed? Do we have any opinions on that nickname given to her? Because, like, if you are rubbing a bank, you get given the nickname.

Sometimes you might be like, oh, I hate that. Well, I mean, at least you'd be, at least it's confirmation that they're confident as a man. Actually, right. So she should probably be quite chuffed. I don't know. I mean, she didn't talk about it much. She probably would have, if she had the choice, she would have been, Cowboy Babette.

What was the movie she liked? Butch. Butch. She would have loved to been Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Butch Cassidy or Sundance Kid, I reckon. I'd like Sundance Kid. Sundance Kid.

Butch Cassidy is fantastic. Butch Cassidy is fantastic. Butch Cassidy. I'll be Sundance Kid. And Dave can be and the... Looks like there's a Simpsons character called Cowboy Bob as well. Yeah, there is.

And I was like, that can't be from the Simpsons, surely. But it's from their comic strip. Oh, gotcha. Hey, I'd like to thank from Chestnut Hill in Massachusetts. Matt, how I'm supposed to say that? Massachusetts. Thank you so much. And this is a big shout out to motion city-equy. Motion-sydiqui. I think motion, motion is known as the ballerina. Okay. So two-two? Yes. Ballerina slippers. Nailed that, yep. But, Covered in bells.

One big bell over the head. Wow. Yeah. Protection. And we're on the way out. Ding, ding, ding. Oh, wow. Hitting the bell.

You've just been robbed by the king. Really wanted the king to be the nickname? But they went for Bellarina. They went with Bellarina, yeah. Wow, that's tough. Sorry to hear that. Sorry, Mosen and, uh, honestly. Like, really just tried so hard to put it out there.

I'm the king. You've just been robbed by the king. Tell everybody. Yeah, it just didn't stick. Didn't stick. Can I thank some people? Sure can. I would love to thank from Shoreline, Washington, W.A.

Mm-hmm. I would love to thank Carly Lee. Carly, what about the Sorcerer's Apprentice? Oh, fantastic. So weren't dressed as Mickey Mouse? Yes. Wizard Mickey? Yeah, yeah, with the hat, the coat.

Is that what the Sorcerer's Apprentice is from Fantasia? Or no. Is that a separate thing? It feels like, is that a Disney thing at all? Sorcero's Apprentice? I have no idea. Yeah, neither, as it turns out. Felt confident briefly.

Never feel confident. And that vanished. Yeah. The Sorcerer's Apprentices is the 2010 American Action Adventure Fantasy film produced by Jerry Bruchheimer, released by Walt Disney Pictures. Well done. Starring Nicholas Cage. Ah, yes.

So I've combined two things there. Hmm. But you were in the right kind of ballpark, which is something. Yeah, but the Fantasia outfit would be a pretty good disguise. Yeah, again, it's like, no, I'm the Fantasia bandit. Oh, the Sorcerer's Apprentices struck again. God damn it. I would also have to thank from the Windy City, Chicago, Illinois.

I would love to thank Emily Austria. Emily Austria is a fantastic name. That's a great name. I would buy a novel written by Emily Austria. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Which is funny because Emily's bandit nickname was, the novelist.

I like it. I like it too. She wrote a really long note. It was, yeah, the teller was like, oh my God. I'm just going to jump ahead a bit and be like, you're robbing me, right? It's like a manuscript.

I am so busy at work. I'll just, just open your bag and I'll put the cash in. Like, honestly, you're wasting my time. That's beautiful, Emily. Congratulations on the novelist. Finally, I would love to thank from Harrington Park, New South Wales, Angelie. Angilli. Angelie.

Angelie. Got all options there, William. What about the broken down shoe? Oh, okay. And how do they get to that? They, on the way out, robbery went really well. Except on the way out, last step out of the bank. They had a bit of a blowout with the sole of their shoe.

Dragging on. Quite embarrassing. Quite embarrassing. They had to just start leg in it. with like half the shoe, broken down shoe. Oh, I hate that. Yeah, they were footing it. Whoa.

Thanks so much, William, Emily, Carly, Mosen, Josh, Courtney, Adam, Aaron and Callan. And the last thing we like to do is welcome a few people into the Triptitch Club. Jess, could you quickly explain what the Triptich Club is? Yeah, it's a one-stop shop for anything you could ever need. You want to have a nap? We've got beds. You want to take a shit? We've got toilets.

We've also got beds. It's a lounge type area and exclusive club once you leave. Once you enter, you can never leave. In a good way. In a good way. Where we welcome in people who have supported to go on for three years consecutively. On the shoutout level or above. That's right.

And when I call out your name, because I'm the doorman here, I've got the clipboard. I've got a list of guests. This week we've got eight inductees. Wow. I'll read out the names. Dave's on stage inside. He's the MC, he's the hype man. Thank you.

And he's going to really bring you up. I'll read out your name and Dave will welcome you in. Everyone else is already in the club. They're there clapping along, cheering your name. Yep. Just behind the bar. Yep. Normally has come up with a cocktail based on the topic.

Pepsi. In a mug. Oh, yeah. Three quarters full. And you can have... And you're serving any fajita meat? I got some fajita meat. I got some cigarettes.

Oh, my God. Menthal? The only way. Yeah. And Dave, you normally book a band for the after party? You've never got to believe this. What have you done now, Dave? I book these bands months and months in advance.

Never anything to do with the topic. Uh-huh. And I've somehow booked the band Job for a Cowboy. Whoa. The Death Metal Band. Sick. So get ready for some Brea Bree Breeze, Job for a Cowboys here. Any hits that we would know?

Yeah, yeah. Do you remember Knee Deep? Yes. Yeah, love him. Intumment of a machine. Uh-huh. Son of Night. Nility.

That sounds like a death metal song written by a robot. Absolutely. And tarnished gluttony. Oh, yeah. They've definitely opened the source. When their first album, Doom, it came out in 2005. There was quite a lot of love for it. My school, people love job for a cowboy.

Fantastic. All right, are you ready to welcome in this week's inductees? Here we go. I didn't wait. You didn't wait for my response. Well, you took forever. Yeah, it was quite a while. And you were typing, so it was pretty clear you hadn't heard him.

I figured once I start, you'll probably figure out what's going on. You'll probably, you know, remember you're at work. Maybe you'll get your shit together. Freaking hell, Dave. And from now, I'm ready to hype you, but I needed to get out that resentment first. That was rude. Oh, yeah. For new listeners, Jess also hypes Dave.

How can I hype you if I'm feeling any kind of content or resentment for you? I've got that out now. I feel nothing but love for you, and I'm ready. And I feel nothing. What's new? Please. Firstly, from Moresville in North Carolina, home of the blue fire trucks in some certain areas.

In America, it's Dustin Stewart. I've been busting Stewart to get this game. Yes. From Edmonton in Canada, it's Sandy Paha. I'm a Fandy of Sandy. Oh! From Baram in Massachusetts, MS. No.

Mississippi. Oh, baby. It's a grand old miss. M-I-S-I-S-I-W-S-I-W-P-I-I-W-E-I-W-Ning the flow. It's Keanu-N-A-N-Gy-N-A-Ram. Oh, when Keanu came, I said, bye-Ram to the bad times. From Lukan in Ireland, it's Ola McGraw. Ooh, Dukin with the Lukan.

Okay. We met all recently, Dave, when we're over in somewhere... Five stars. Maybe Leeds. I can't remember. No, probably... Probably... Probably Glasgow.

And from Garland in Texas in the United States. One of the robberies was there. Holy shit. No, no. Pretty sure. It's Josh Harmon. Well, I've got some good Carmen with Josh Harmon. Sounds like karma.

From Ringstead in D.K., Denmark, perhaps. It's Maya. Aikigat. D.K. St.K. Sting for the cool person. Dave, I know you've been to Iceland, which is. isn't too far from Denmark. Can you have a crack of pronouncing that name?

Well, that's relevant to... Yes, but you've been to Iceland. I think it's Likiggaard. And Major or Maya? Or Maha. Mahar. Can you have a go full go? Please give it up for Maya Lickagard.

From Canber in the Australian capital territory, it's Anne White. Anne White. So it's still... It's a big juxtaposition to go from a name but we're not sure about them. Okay, I'm a fan of Anne White. Yeah, and white. And finally from Gothenburg and Sweden, it's Adam Norman.

Ain't nothing Norman about this guy. Oh, yes. He's the best! Norman like normal? Normal, I think that's what I'm going for. Thank you so much to Adam. He's the best. Maya, Major, Josh, Ola, Kiana,

Sandy and Dustin. Welcome into the club. Make yourselves at home. Get ready. Grab a bit of meat. Don't know if Jess is cooking it on offer Grab a handful Yeah, all right

Grab yourself a Pepsi And a cigarette And a cigarette And get ready for the Death Metal styling Of Job for a Cowboy Take it away, guys Well that brings us to the end of the episode

Anything we need to tell people Before we go, Bopper Just that they can find us At do go on pod across social media Our website is dogoonpod.com Where you can find info about live shows Which we've got coming up you know, soon-ish.

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