Do Go On - 379 - The 1972 Munich Olympic Massacre

Episode Date: January 25, 2023

The 1972 Munich Olympics were described as "The Cheerful Games." But the sporting triumphs were overshadowed when halfway through the event, 8 terrorists from a group called Black September broke into the Olympic Village and took 11 members of the Israeli delegation hostage. This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 05:15 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodLive show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our new merch! : https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/  Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:One Day In September (1999)https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0230591/ Everything you need to know about Israel-Palestine - Voxhttps://www.vox.com/2018/11/20/18079996/israel-palestine-conflict-guide-explainer https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/jun/26/munich-olympics-massacre-fight-for-remembrance https://olympics.com/en/olympic-games/munich-1972https://www.britannica.com/event/Munich-1972-Olympic-Games https://www.npr.org/2022/09/04/1116641214/munich-olympics-massacre-hostage-terrorism-israel-germany  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenjai Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Welcome to another episode of Do Go One. My name is DeF Warnocky and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and this week, Matt Stewart.

How good is it to be alive? Thanks so much for having me. Well done it. We did it. Just making the edit a little difficult here with levels. And scene, beautiful. Jeez, Bob, I mean, freaking hell. I'm so sorry that I was...

You came in a little hot there. I'm sorry I was really happy that you were on the episode this week. Great to have you here. Matt. When was the last time I missed? I wanted you to feel welcome on David My Podcast. Yeah, great. You're our favorite guest.

I have not missed. And you've like immediately come in and had a go with me and you're a guest here. Yeah, sorry. Actually, you're not my favorite. You're my top two, top two guest. Top two guests. Wild. With Cass?

Yeah. She's great. I don't even fucking make top two. I'm a co-host. You're not a guest. You're a co-host. Oh my God. You don't even know the bit you're doing.

That's why you're now not on the show. Your energy sucks today. This is my show. Okay, Jess might not know the bitch he's doing, but she does know what this show is, Jess. For people who haven't heard it before, I think we should start again. This is off. Let's start from the top. Here we go.

Dave, do it. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Sepornikey, and as always, I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hi, Dave. Hey, Dave, how's it going? So good to be here, Jess. You're looking fantastic, Dave. You're looking pretty good as well.

Thanks. And how good is it to be alive? I can't believe I'm in the room with two cutie-bitant. Two-Dee. You know what? No, no, no, no. No, Matt, because when you said, like, Jesse, looking good, I was like, here we go, reducing me to just my looks as, you know, society does.

But then you said today, but I was like, okay, it's equality. And then you said, it's good to be alive. And I was like, well, actually, it is pretty good to be alive. And then you said, it's good to be in the room with two cutie-buttooties. And I was like, he's won me. He's got me back. Okay. He's got me back.

All right, because, yeah, are you sure we shouldn't start again? No, I think that's fine. I don't feel good about that. So I'll explain how the show was. Beautiful, please. Well, what we do is one of the three of us takes a topic, usually suggested to us by the listeners. We research that topic. We bring it back to the other two.

We tell them all about it. And they listen politely. They encourage us along the way. They are the wind beneath our wings. This week, it is Dave Warnocky's turn to present to Matt and I, a topic. So you are both the wind beneath my wings this week. Yeah, I'm your left wing. I'm your right wing.

Thank you, wing. Uh, get out of my country. Uh, but I, um, yeah, I, I, I, I worry that, uh, this little ironic, uh, intro we do each week where we say we don't interrupt, there's people who come in and they go, offentance. Fantastic. Finally, one of those podcasts where they don't interrupt. I'm sick of hearing three friends have a nice time together.

I just want cold hard facts. And let me just say to you right now because Matt and Dave are too polite to say this to you, but I'm a bad bitch and I don't care. Hey, hey. you. Yep. Sometimes not every podcast is for you and that's okay. Get out of our country.

The country of Dugo One. Yes. We're a micronation. Dave, we usually get on the topic with a question. What is your question? My question to both of you is which Olympics is best remembered for a tragic event that has nothing to do with sport. Oh, it's Munich.

Matt got in just there. If we go back to the clock, correct. I was actually just being, I was just letting me. I was just letting you finish a sentence. Not me. Not me. If I do that, because my problem is if I let people finish a sentence, when I go to talk, the next sentence is halfway through it.

So I really have to go in. You got to get in. So when it sounds like you're halfway through a sentence, I get in and hope that that times out that you finish the sentence when I'm talking. Yeah, Munich. What year? Is that? 1972.

1972, Munich Olympics. That's right. That's what we're going to be talking about here. today. Do you know much about that games or the tragedy? I know that Eric Banner was in a movie, but I haven't seen it. 100% what I was going to say. I know the Eric Banner film that I also haven't seen. I know very, very minimal, in fact, pretty much nothing. Which is bad, isn't it?

No, no, let me educate you, so to speak. Great. This topic's been suggested by a few people and voted for about our Patreon supporters. I really appreciate them choosing this topic. It's an epic, but I think that shows a very interesting story. And thank you to Megan Rife from Shippensburg, Pennsylvania, Kelly Trey from Vancouver, and Xavier Zayas from Rochester. Xavier Zayas.

Yeah, incredible name. Holy shit, that's a great name. Where's Rochester? I'm not sure if it's the Victorian country town or maybe in England. Yeah, it sounds like, it sounds like, but it doesn't say, Xavier, wherever you are, thank you so much to you, Kelly and Megan, for suggesting this topic. So let's jump in. So the games of the 20th Olympiad were held in Munich in West Germany

from the 26th of August to the 11th of September, 1972. Two important dates on everyone's calendar. That's right, just 18 years before the birth of Jess Bot Perkins. Yeah, God. What it would have been like, to live in a world before me. You were like a reverse adult that year. Wow. If you think about it.

If you think about it in a pretty odd way, that's true. Your fetus could have got a reverse driver's license at you. I'll give you think about it. If you think about it. And it does make you think. I've never lived in a world without Jess Perkins. Isn't that crazy? Yeah.

But you've both lived in a world without me. Yeah. Best two days of my life. Best centuries of my life. It's been a real grind these last 30 odd years. Dave, maybe one day you will have to live in a world. with no Jess Perkins. And I just want you to prepare yourself.

I hope not. Are you going to live on the moon? I didn't know how to bring this up to you guys, but I am, we are going to have to do this remotely for a while because I am moving to the moon. First podcast from the moon, let's do it. I'm doing a moon change. So Munich was the second time Germany hosted the Olympics, which it previously held in 1936 under the Nazi regime.

The 36 games were really used by Hitler as a propaganda. Danda tool for his regime. There's a lot of controversy before the games, whether countries thought, you know, they're wondering, should we compete over there or not? And in the intervening years, Germany had, of course, gone to war against the world for World War II, and Nazis committed the atrocities of the Holocaust.

Because of this still recent history, the West German government had been eager to have the Munich Olympics present a democratic and optimistic new Germany to the world. Yeah, sorry about that. We're cool now. Everything's fine. We're okay now.

The game's official motto was, Di Hedian Spiel or The Cheapel games. That's nice. The problem is they've got dye in there. Yeah, German, not a cheerful language. Yeah. What is a cheerful language? Not French, it's sexy.

Yeah, French is so sexy. What's cheery. Irish? Irish is pretty cheerful. It can be quite melancholic though, Irish. The language. The people, the land. Okay, I don't know.

I don't know what's a cheerful language. It was also known as the Games of Peace and Joy. Boy. Oh. It's nice. So basically, there's a way for West Germany to paint itself in a different light on one of the world's biggest stages, as it invited the world, to come back to Germany. But the Guardian writes, quote,

it was never going to be easy to forget the recent past. The Olympic Park had been built just six miles from the Dachau concentration camp on the site of the Ober Weisenfeld Airport. So that's looming over everyone the whole time. To continue the quote, after the war, the area had been used to dump 10 million cubic metres of dead. debris created by the Allied bombing of Munich. You can see there is a great deal that we are trying to bury,

finally and forever, with the Games of 1972, a member of the organising committee told the Guardians Peter Harvey before the opening ceremony, we so much want these games to be full of peace and sport and nothing else. Can you be full of peace? Oh, yeah. Oh, up to here. I kind of feel like peace is a little bit of like a base level.

And then if you're trying to be full of peace, you're being like overly nice. I love going out and getting pieced, pieced off my tits. Just off to the eyeballs. It's been ages since I've been completely pieced. Yeah, you should try it again. Loosen up a bit. Get a bit of peace in you.

I'm piecing right now. What? Dave, that's inappropriate, man. We're at work. We're at work? You've really got to stop that. Dave? Dave.

Dave. Try and sober up with a bit of hate. We're not mad. We're just disappointed. Yeah. That's worse. You know, in Germany they actually call it Munchen, which I think is far superior to Munich. It always is.

Yeah. I love it. Deutsche Land, Munchen. Why aren't we all saying this? I don't get it. No do I. It's strange. It's very strange.

We have English names for everything. Yeah. I don't know. Munchen. So good. Oh my God. It's great. I think it's got an umlaid involved somewhere.

What a delight. We will continue to call it Munich, though. Yeah, of course. I don't want to sound like. like wankers. So I was just in Munchin. I think because I was trying to spring that up like a wanker, but I didn't quite do it enough.

So I just sound like I'm a genuine wanker. And did you know that Munich's actually, I needed to lean in a bit harder? So it actually took me a few minutes to work out what you were talking about because I actually know it as Munchin. See, he nailed it. Yeah, but it's much more natural today. Yeah, it's a level of wank that just.

I love to wank, so to speak. Dave, I don't know if you know what you've just admitted to that. Dave, you turned the microphones on. So they're pumping the games up as being full of peace, sport, and nothing else, which, I mean, you could probably do this with any tragedy event and look back, but it's like you really put the moz on there, it feels like a little bit there. To betray the image of peace, friendliness and openness, the organisers had deliberately light security.

This was partly in response to the 1968 games in Mexico where the government massacred hundreds of unarmed students who were protesting the games just 10 days before the opening ceremony. I did not know that. Yeah, that was a very big... What? How did the Olympics survive these sort of things? How do you then four years later back up again and go,

well, let's play some sport? Let's see who can run fast. Yeah, wild. Well, keep that thought for this games as well. Both the Olympics and the country wanted to portray a completely different side. So at Munich, not a single police officer or soldier was seen inside the Olympic venues or village. They deliberately said no soldiers, no police. Instead, they were guarded by a small and unarmed force clad in light blue uniforms. The colour chosen when an opinion poll found that it was

the most unpolitical of hues. Oh yeah, the light blue, the light blue. They wanted to be gentle, but yeah, no police, no soldiers on site. Did they get the same crew that looked after Woodstock, the same sort of Peace Patrol? They could have got the Peace Patrol in there. Could have got, yeah. I mean, they hadn't existed yet from Woodstock 99, but still. Did they think of that? Is this some sort of archetypal piece betrower? That's why, get them, set them back in time, dress them as Smurfs. You're ready to go.

The games featured the first official Olympic mascot, Waldi, the Dashound, designed by O'Tol Aika. Waldi. Waldi. That's not a name. The dog. Point of order. That's not a name. Waldi.

Objection. The dog represented the attributes required for athletes, resistance, tenacity, and agility. Yeah, that's a dashhound right there. And the ability to roll over. Sit, good boy. The marathon route for the Olympics was created to resemble Waldi. The head of the dog faced west, with athletes running counterclockwise.

Matt, just looking at a picture of it now. The belly was the main downtown street in Munich, and its rear end and tail were all in the English garden, which is a parkland extending along the Issa River. So at one stage, you could say, I'm running through the dog's asshole, right now. That's nice. At one point you can say that. And I did.

And I've reached the dog's asshole, which means only a mile to go. Because I turned left of the asshole. I like that design. It's a cute dog. Archery returned to the games for the first time since 1920 with events for both men and women. Slaelam canoeing was also held for the first time at the 1972 Olympics. But I thought before we get to the tragedy, these are some of the sporting highlights of the games, which have been.

Probably rightfully so, overshadowed by history. But still, there were some triumphs and fun stuff. So if you're a gold medalist from that Olympics, you'd probably be like, fuck. Yeah, including one of the most famous ones ever, 22-year-old mustachioed American swimmer Mark Spitz was one of the stars of the 72 Olympics. Spitz had brashly predicted that he would win six gold medals at the previous 1962 Olympics. And before he jumped in, he pointed at the other end of the full Bayborough star said,

I'm going to swim down there. I'm going to swim this one out of the park. You say the previous 1962? 1968, rather. Yeah. If I did misspeak, is the 19608. There you go.

I don't know why I'm going to. The Mexico City of games, he said, I'm going to win six golds. Watch me. That is, that's a lot. It's a bit like,

have you ever played the game 500? You've got to really back yourself. Ten tricks. Ten tricks. No trumps. Mazaar. Fuck you. Okay, so you have played 500 with my dad.

That's how he plays. Meseer, fuck you. Don't ever play. 500 with my dad. Anyway, yeah, it feels like that. Four years out, you're going to go six, easy. Watch me.

On the record. So at the previous games, he said at this Olympics, I win six, right? Oh, okay. And whilst he did take home two gold medals for the real estate, which most people, you'd be very proud of yourself. So embarrassing. He performed well below expectations in his individual races. He was third in the 100 metre freestyle, second in the 100 metre butterfly,

and last in the final of the 200 metre butterfly. You know, I just, I haven't seen the races, but I know what's going wrong. The mustache. Too much drag. Yeah. Huge mustache. How many like Olympic swimmers you see with a beard or a mustache? None.

They are shaved. You got to get the dome. Michael Clem had it down pat. They're shaved from top to bottom. Yeah. Certainly no mustache. That drag could cost you seconds and that's a long time. It's a long time in the pool.

Yeah. Or am I get trapped in the filter and you'll drown. Oh, worst case scenario. Why do they have that little pool spider thing on during the race? Sponsed by Gillette. Start shaving him in the pool. Sorry, it was disappointing. It was embarrassing for him, to be honest, because he said he wins 61 too.

Don't say that. I know, dude. In 1972, the Munich Olympics, he came back with a vengeance and went on to set a world record when in eight days he won seven gold medals all in world record time. And did he make any predictions here this time? No, he kept it a bit quiet this time. He learned his lesson there, wasn't he? He won every event he entered, which included the 200-meter butterfly,

the 4-1 freestyle relay, 200-free-stile. 200 freestyle, 100 butterfly, 4 by 200 freestyle relay, 100 metre freestyle and the 4 by 100 medley relay. Wow. I mean, he's doing a lot of realays, which I mean, you know, you're as strong as your weakest part or whatever. But it feels like other people are doing some of the work there too, you know? Yeah, okay.

Just saying. But then he was world record breaking solo ones too. In all of them, yeah. So he won four individual. Fellow American swimmer Michael Phelps eventually broke this record on 2008 when he won 8. when he won eight gold medals in a single Olympic. Phelpsi. And if you think Phelpsi, in one word, what would it be?

Hairy. Okay. I was thinking Schfeldt or hairless. No, that's not what I get. I think big old hairy boy. I don't think the man has a hair on his body. I think Yeti. The word I was going to say was Stingers.

Peter Phelps. Phelps, yeah. That's one. When I hear Phelpsi, I think Peter. Sorry, we didn't really know where you were going with that. Sorry. So Spitz retreat. He was retired after the games, age just 22.

He was like, retiring at 22. I'm done. The dream. Spitz did. So his big prediction was when he was 18. Yeah. Oh, that's, he nailed that. He's absolutely nailed it.

And through lucrative, because remember the times, Olympic stuff is like for non-professionals. Yes. Through lucrative sponsorships after he retired, he made an estimated $7 million in the 70s in two years. Yeah, cornflakes packets. Yeah. He cleaned up.

He was a superstar in America at the time. And you're just done for the rest of your life. You can just travel and. Yeah, I think he's like some sort of businessman. Of course he is because he's an Olympian. And elite sports people are built differently to us common folk. And he could never just enjoy that and retire and just live a nice life. They've got to be like, well, I've got to be the best at something else.

And good on you, but I don't have that in me. Let me tell you about another one. Is that why you've pulled out of the Olympics? Yeah, I just was like, you know what? I don't care that much. But he's got to do something by the same token. No, retire at 22, enjoy your life. But he had no, but he, it was a volunteer sport or whatever.

It was volunteer, I guess a little, amateur. Amateur? I guess most sports are volunteer. Yeah, but he'd made a shit-tod catch. In the 1936 Olympics, probably there were some Germans competing against their will, maybe. Maybe. So you're saying he has to go get a job just so that he can add it to his CV, even though he's made enough money to just enjoy his life. Oh, no, well, I mean, he hasn't made enough money.

That, that $7 million was as a businessman. No, no, no, it was as, through sponsors. sponsorships in the two years after retiring. What do you think? There's sponsorships are going to, that's business. Being a brand ambassador, are you looking down your nose on the brand ambassador position? Matt's trying to be an influencer. Yeah.

Trying. If you want me to take a photo for Instagram with your product, just send me an email. I'd love you to stay there like a box of Omo or something being like that. I will do it. When I watch my. For a price. But I wash my tidy whiteies. Sorry.

The other star of the pool was Australia's own Shane Gould. Shane Gould. At the age of 15, she was already feared by her opponents. Her Olympic bio writes, because she always swam with a knife. Again, slowing her down, but very scary. She said it would cut through the water. She held it above her head like a shark fin.

Very intimidating person. It's easy to win when you've killed the rest of the field. This is what her Olympic buyer writes, her official buyer. Shane Gould was just 15 years old when she was. he competed in the 1972 games. However, her reputation was already so fearsome that swimmers from the United States tried to build their own confidence

by wearing t-shirts that read, all that glitters is not gould. Does that not just make it so clear that she's in your heads already? She's 15 years old. This child with a knife. That actually kind of makes it seem like you're a fan. You're wearing merch.

All that glitters is not gould. I don't get that. Yeah, that would have pumped me up If the other team were wearing anything saying, I'd be like, thank you so much. All the glitters does not stew. I'd be like, I don't get it, but I'll love it. I love it.

Thank you so much. Thank you. Well, they were right to fear. It means a lot. Always nice to meet a fan. They'll write to fear here because Gould won three gold medals, but all that Glitters is not Gould because she also won a silver and a bronze, all in individual freestyle and medley events.

She also set world records in each race she won. Wow. Even when she came second and third. Oh, no, you said each one she won. I know. She is the only person, male or female, to hold every world freestyle record from 100 metres to 1,500 metres and the 200 metre individual medley world records simultaneously, which he did from the 12th of December 1971 to the 1st of September, 1972. Wow. She's also the first swimmer male or female to win Olympic medals in five individual events in a single Olympics.

So cop that spitz. Yeah, cup that spitz-y. Why are you saying male or female? I just say swimmer. You're like you're complicating it to make it less complicated, Dave. Reading out these stats from the Olympic official website. Yeah, exactly. That's who I'm talking to then.

Pass it over. I'm going to put your computer in the bin. Hand it over. Come on. Over here, please. You can just say swimmer. Male or female. You're not adding anything there.

Human or not? Human or not? Well, to be honest, some dolphins are faster than her. Okay. But they can't do, for example, backstroke. So, fuck them. Human or other primate. I'm pretty sure we've got the chimps in the pool

We got the chimps in the pool. I don't know. Have we ever put a chimp in a pool? I don't think I could beat a chimp in a pool. I am a slow swimmer. Should we go get some chimps and put them in a pool? See what happens? I don't think that's cruel at all.

Let's do it. I think it's cool. Throw them in and see what happens. Look at them go! They've invented a new stroke. What's it called? Chimp crawl. Chimp crawl.

They're not very creative with names. They named it. They're chimps. Her, ho? That's actually, they said, And we interpreted those too. Anyway, Dave, please do go on. Gould also retired young at the age of just 16.

Retired at 16. After the Olympics, she went, I'm done. Honestly, and I heard she regretted it. She's like, I held on too long. I should have quit on my page. I should have just enjoyed my life. I was really great at 13. That is ridiculous.

You're right, Jess. Olympians aren't like normal people because you've got to win something. She wasn't done winning. In the 2000s, she returned to the pool, swimming master's events for older athletes and set more world records in her own age category. By that time, she was 23. I'm old. Beko and the seniors.

And in 2018, Gould won the fifth season of Australian Survivor, becoming the oldest winner of any Survivor franchise ever in the world. She's a bad age. What a badass. And her name is Shane, which I think already is badass. I think part of my sort of sporting goals in my life is Masters games. Okay, yeah. And it's handicapped too because, like, you know, you put a 70-year-old and a 1001-year-old in the same running race.

So I reckon, but imagine if you're like, all right, well, I was always an average sports person, but now I'm going to go for the Masters, even get a medal. Shane Gould is competing? Fuck off Shane Gould. You're like, oh, come back next time. I'll probably live another four years. Shane Gould is he? Great. Fantastic. You go on Survivor and you're like, Shane Gould is here for God save.

Come on. and then one of the final challenge is swim to that island over there. Oh, Shane. You're right, you've just gone in at the local RSL Chuklotto. And Shane Gould have bought it to you. She's so lucky. Just give her the meat, Tray. Putting down her sporting achievements to luck is very funny.

I should probably wear this too. She's so lucky. She fell on the pool and she knew what to do more than anyone else. Ridiculous. So lucky. Now, the most controversial sporting moment from the games occurred during the final for the men's basketball, and it has been called the most controversial basketball game ever. I don't know.

You weren't at my under 12th grand final. Sorry, the second move. It got pretty violent. For real? No. I'm a lover, not a fighter. Your teammates are the other hand. Also, nobody would ever take me on because I grew fast and I was always much taller or much bigger than the other girls.

and if they if they ran into me they fell down not the other way right that's how you got the nickname bop isn't he just bopped them on the head pop pop pop I thought you also played with a knife I did play with a knife in your teeth growling yeah growled the old time to child but a beautiful free throw beautiful free throw you know just

elegant layout read the game beautiful She's a great basketball mind. So this basketball final has actually been suggested as its own topic in its own right by Dave Marisessi. Thanks so much for the suggestion. Dave, it was Team USA versus the Soviet Union. And remember, this was peak cold war. And on the Olympic basketball court, the American men had never lost ever. Every match they ever.

Who's lining up any of the greats? This is still during the amateur era, I believe. mostly these men went on to play in the NBA, but at the time they're all like sort of amateur college guys are very young. And since the first Olympic basketball tournament at the 1936 Olympics in Berlin, the Americans had not lost a single game

winning seven consecutive medals in complete domination. Wow. Which makes sense, they invented the game. I think it was a Canadian person. Oh, I mean the American continent. Yeah, right, but the Canadians don't do a great job. They don't do.

Nate Smith. I cop that, Canada. Yeah. But I think early days in a new sport, it makes sense. But now, you know, that it's been around for quite a while, it makes sense that, you know, a lot of other countries have overtaken America at basketball. Yeah. It would, yeah.

Similar like all the English sports that they invented that now Australia are better at it. Imagine, like, if we played America in Aussie rules football. Exactly. I don't, I don't even, I'm not even being cocky here. We would kick their little tushies. Honestly, we would wipe the floor with them. With their little tushy. There's only one Tony Lockett, and he doesn't play for another country.

Exactly. We're bringing him out of retirement. Plug us back. I looked it up. James Naismith, born in the basketball inventor, Canadian American. Okay. Born in Canada, worked in America, I believe.

And invented the game in 19, 1891. In Springfield, Massachusetts. Okay. Okay. America. America. Claimed. The U.S.

of A. And that A is America, Dave. Gotcha. And since that moment, they absolutely dominated. Since the 1952 tournament, the Soviet team challenged the Americans, winning silver in 52, 56, 60, 64 and bronze in 68. So they were hot on the heels. They're clearly like clearly the number two. Yeah, clearly second best.

The Michael Chang of basketball, if you will. Top two, baby. Top two. The Soviets were a much older and more experienced team and had not lost a single game. on the way to the 72 final. I don't think at the Olympics, it's good to be older. They're a Masters team. Yeah.

The Soviet team were all in their mid-40s to early 50s. A lot of experience. Yeah, and a lot of fake hips and knees. Oh, another blowout. The gold medal game began at 1145 p.m. local time. Why? To accommodate a primetime broadcast in the United States. Do you love that at the Olympics?

Gosh, of course. It's all of... The friendly games. They're a peaceful game. games. Yeah, but we've also got to make sure America can watch. 1145pm. Start time.

No, that's way past bedtime. Why, especially for these older geriatric Russians. Well, the Australian opens on at the moment, the tennis. And that seems to happen a bit sometimes. Like, the big game, the prime time game at night, sometimes they go to like 2 a.m. Yeah. Oh, yeah, because often it's like there's only one centre court and the main match has to wait for the, you know, the match before it to finish. And if that goes to five sets, you're starting at 11.15.

Yeah, pretty wild I kind of like that I love sport in the middle of the night For some reason I like it too Especially on a hot Aussie night When you're like

It's too hot to sleep I just sit on the couch And doze and sip water Watch rapper See what it can do See Medvedev Yell at the crowd

And the crowd And the crowd yell back Tennis What a sport What a sport People laugh Because Laugh at nothing

The Ball Boy Pretends to play guitar Or something Oh the ball boy's Legionnaires hat flew off in the wind. Better call a half-time break because it's so funny.

That's going to make the news. So the older USSR team, I say old, I think they're like mid-20s. Oh my God. Some people are saying, they're pretty professional. They're playing a pretty amateur team in America. But the older USSR team dominated early

and got off to a hot start with 10 minutes left. The Soviets at a 10-point lead. Whoa. The Americans, however, caught up and trailed 48 to 49. So one point with only seconds left until Doug Collins, an American, was failed. He made two free throws to put the Americans ahead 50 to 49.

This is the final score. Yeah. Up by one point. Was it, were they shorter games back then? Maybe they are shorter. It seems like quite a low scoring game. It is pretty, pretty low. But also, this is before three points.

Right, okay, of course. We're included. So three seconds left. That's all I shoot. Yeah. Well, you were useless, scoring useless two pointers. Still get points. So 50 to 49, they're one in front with three seconds left.

The New York Times writes, those three seconds would be re-examined for years to come. So that means that the Soviets get to inbound the ball. We're going to throw the ball back in from one side of the opposite end of their goal, hoping to somehow get it back into play and into the basket up the other end of the court before the buzzer sounds three seconds later. If they do, they will win by one point because they'll get two points. The three-point line wasn't added to the Olympics until. until 1988.

Right. Really? Yeah. What about when was it added for the NBA? NBA, I think it was a few years earlier, but it was still the 80s. Wow, I didn't know that. And the rule, you're the basketball here, Bob. Yes.

Is the rule, and has it always been that the clock doesn't start until someone's taking possession? It's not like it doesn't start when it's thrown in. That's when someone, you say, I've seen a few clips recently in the NBA where someone will just be standing over the ball rolling, so the clock isn't starting and the defense isn't coming up. Kind of strange loophole thing. Oh. But is it a, maybe it's...

I mean, they're going to be way more technical about it in the Olympics, of course. So I'm not 100% sure, actually. I would have, like, playing here would be, like, as soon as the ball's passed in. Right. Because, you know, like, three seconds, that changes a lot. That's not a lot of time to get the ball all the way down. But if the pass, you know, is going halfway down the court and the clock doesn't start until it's cool.

You're a lot closer to the goal with three. You'll see it sometimes the NBA as well. They need a three-pointed win, and the past will, there's like less than a second on the clock. The past will, yeah. So the past can, you know, be in the air for a second. Yeah, and then the catch and shit straight up. Yeah, yeah. So.

But you don't know what it's. I'm not 100% sure. I think the clock is supposed to start straight away, I believe, from these recounts. So the ball gets thrown in, but the Soviets immediately call a time out. but to quote from the Washington Post to explain why this is controversial, an international amateur basketball federation, Fiber rule at the time,

didn't allow for a timeout to be called after a second free throw, which is what the Americans have just done. So the Soviets had to rush the ball across the court, and as a Soviet player dribbled the ball at half court, it looked as if the Americans would win the game. But the Soviet coaches complained that a timeout they had called between Collins' free throws

hadn't been granted, and as they disrupted the scorer's table, a referee stopped the action with just one second left. Because they came on to protest, and then the referee went, what's going on, stop the clock. Whoa. At that point, Renato William Jones, great name.

The British head and co-founder of Fever ordered the clock reset to three seconds, despite the game being interrupted with only one second left on the clock. He said, take it again. This sounds like a mess. So he let the Soviets have a do-over with the full three-second. because they got to throw the ball back in. He said, oh, it's too confusing.

Take the ball back up there. Again from the Washington Post. So the Soviets again imbounded the ball again from under their own basket, but failed to score as time expired. It's all over! ABC commentator Frank Gifford yelled as the American players rushed the court in celebration. They think they've won a gold medal. Wow, what a finish.

The United States winning their eighth consecutive gold medal. This is what Frank Gifford's yelling. The final score of 50 to the USA to 49 for the USSR flashed across the screen. Woo, they've done it. Then a more subdued Gifford came back on the mark and said, now we're being told the scoreboard is not correct. Oh, no way. What?

So William Jones, the head of international basketball, emerged from the stands to rule that the Soviet team should get a third chance to imbound the ball. Wait, what? Why? Because the scoreboard operator had neglected to reset the clock, and it accidentally said 50 seconds instead of 3 seconds, so it didn't count down from 3. It counted down from 50.

Wait, so they didn't get the score. It's like three seconds is three seconds, right? Yeah. That doesn't make any sense. So the score, the score wasn't wrong. The clock was wrong on the scoreboard. I thought you were going to say that they were actually leading by that point. No, no, no.

So they run out of time with one point ahead. But then the guy from Fiber came back on and said, sorry, there's been a problem. This is starting to feel like monies on the Soviets. This is from the New York Times again. Let's give him one more chance. Let's give him one more go. And America, if you could not be on the court, please, if you could all sit down. We're sobbing out the Team USA for the Washington Generals.

It's like when you're playing like, no, baseball or something at a family game and there's like a six-year-old playing and they get struck out, no, no, no, no, give him another go. Give him another pitch. Come to lob it up, lob it up for him. You can't go out first ball or second ball. You can't, no, no, no, you can't get, I think that hit the ground. One more time, come on, give Johnny a go. So this time from the New York Times, there's so. many articles, especially by American publications on this.

The Americans who were coached by Henry Iber were furious and threatened to leave the court. Amid the chaos, a pickpocket, a pick pocket filch coach Iber's wallet. And then the New York Times says in brackets, yes, someone really stole his wallet. That's how chaotic it was out there. Is that my wallet, Jason? But the Americans were told if they didn't get back onto the court and play, then they would be disqualified and forfeit the match. What?

So they went back out. They're like, all right, well, we're guaranteed to lose if we don't go out. We'll just have to win it again. We'll try and beat him again. Yeah, freaking hell. But I certainly have three seconds. Three seconds. For the third time.

Oh, nine seconds. The Soviets had a third imbound from Soviet player Ivan Adeshko. He was guarded by the huge six foot 11 Tom McMillan. He was there to do anything in his power from letting the ball get past, but then another controversial incident happened. What was his nickname, Tiny Tom? Tiny Tom. Yeah, tiny.

Tom McMillan recalled the six-foot guy himself. There was a referee pointing at my legs and he was Romanian. He didn't speak English. Under international rules, as long as the inbounding player, who's throwing it in, can back up, you don't have to get off the line. It's his responsibility to back up if he wants more room. So Tom's right there trying to block him throwing it in. But back to Tom, but the referee's pointing at my feet.

I'm behind the line. I'm not breaking a rule. Why is he pointing at my feet? I thought he was telling me to get off the line. And the last thing I want to do is get called for a technical fail at that point. And that's why I backed off. So he takes a couple of steps backwards because this guy's yelling at him in Romania. So he backed off giving a Desco space to make a perfect Hail Mary pass to Soviet Ford,

Alexander Bellov, with two players guarding him. Bellov jumped, then made an uncontested game-winning layout. Wow. He had time to do a layup. Yeah, so it got thrown straight to him. It's a great pass, incredible pass, and he's able to grab it and just go, boop, boop, bang. So full court pass. Yep.

Wow. Chaos ensued. Everyone rushed the court. The Soviets were declared the winners. Again, from a possibly biased Washington Post, I should say, the Americans protested, but the jury was stacked against them in another Cold War timepiece. The vote was three-two, with judges from communist block nations, Hungary, Poland and Cuba, voting against the American appeal and those from Italy and Puerto Rico

dissenting. So the Soviets were given the gold medal. This is Adesco the Soviet player who made the game winning pass later said, It was the Cold War. Americans, out of their own natural pride and love of country, didn't want to lose and admit loss. They didn't want to lose in anything, especially basketball. The US team refused to accept their silver medals, and 50 years later, the International Olympic Committee still has those medals.

They've never gone and got them. Tom McMillan said, those medals are going to be in LaSan, Switzerland for a thousand years. One player Kenny Davis said in 2012 that he had even added a clause to his will, barring any of his family members, from posthumously accepting it on his behalf. I love that.

I love that kind of bitterness. That is so petty. Yeah. Even, I know, you know, my great-granddaughter, might desperately need the money. She cannot have it. No. Do not let her have it.

Not even over my dead body. I would rather her stuff. That does sound like they were absolutely ripped off. Based on your retelling there. Yes. I think it is seen, like I say, it's the most controversial basketball game. Wow. And you, the American's perfect record was broken.

Over in Russia, they still hang on to the victory. In 2017, a film called Going Vertical was released. Most Vertical Primate, sounds like that, was released based around the 1972 Olympic final. And it became the highest-grossing modern. Russian film of all time. Wow. When was this release? 2017.

Holy shit. It was huge. It's a very proud moment for them. They beat the Americans. Now, this wasn't the only setback for Team USA. World record holders Eddie Hart and Ray Robinson were equal favorites for the 100 meter sprint, having both run their Olympic trials in dead equal world record time. How hard is that?

But it used to be only to one decimal place. Okay. So they both ran in like 9.8 or something like that. And they were both on the team and they're both on the team. and they're both world record holders. Wow. On August 31, along with fellow American sprinter Robert Taylor, they all qualified for the quarterfinal round to be held later that day.

Walking through the Olympic Village at 417 p.m., Hart saw the 100 metres race being shown on a TV monitor in the AVC studio. It soon became shockingly clear that these were the live images at the quarterfinals the three athletes were meant to run in. And he saw his own name on the screen saying, N.A. not available. and he's like, that's my race. What?

A mad dashed to the Olympic Stadium in an ABC TV car resulted in two of the three. Hart and Robinson, the two favorites, arriving too late for their quarterfinals. Oh, no. And the third, Taylor arriving only seconds before his, so that enabled him to run, but totally unprepared. Yeah. He's had to run onto the track and start running, basically. He's wearing thong.

Yeah. He's just out of the shower. Yeah. It's got a towel on. How did they miss it? An appeal by the United States team failed and the world record holders were eliminated for the no-show, so they're out. It turns out that their sprint coach, Stan Wright, had been given an old schedule. Oh, you're kidding.

That showed the quarterfinals is not starting before 7pm. I mean, surely, surely when they're a no-show, some phone calls are made, you know, even half an hour before. Yeah. Surely there's plenty of time before they realize. Surely you don't have to turn up at the exact time of your race. Surely you've got to be there for a while. Yeah. Why'd they, surely you want the world record holders to be there as well.

And showing that it probably wasn't just their schedule, Valeri Borsop from the Soviet Union who went on to win the Olympic 100 meters title, himself almost missed his quarterfinal after he fell asleep at the stadium. His coach quickly had to wake him up and say, your race is about to start, get out there. That sounds like the organization of this thing was a bit messy, a little amateur hour. Yes, a little amateur. Boazov then won that and also the 200 meters

and a picture featuring him winning the 200 meter heat at the 72 games was selected for the Voyager golden records later launched into Space aboard Voyager spacecraft in 1977 which I did a Patreon bonus episode on last year they had a bunch of images that show what human life is like an image of him winning the race is one of the representations That's so great I don't know how an alien would interpret a still image of someone finishing a running race

What is that? Hopefully not threateningly. Yeah. The third American Ray Robinson won a silver medal in the 100 metre sprint. So he did make it. And his teammates that are missed out of the individual event won gold in the 4x100 metre relay. So they got a gold medal, which is nice. But coach Stan Wright absolutely copped it in the media and was a real scapegoat in America.

Oh, that sucks. It really affected his life and career. Because he got given the wrong... He had the wrong schedule and he was blamed. Oh, that sucks. That's not on him. I mean... No.

I really think... that's on the... It's the games, right? Yeah. Seems like not just the sport is that for amateurs, so is the admin. Yeah. So we've got no professionals working here at all. As soon as you get good, you're out.

How do you schedule things? I don't know. Perfect. You're hired. Oh, okay. You're my boss. No. I don't know what I'm doing either.

Good. You're now the CEO. Oh, God. And as for the marathon around the dog's ass, American Frank Shorter, who was born in Munich, became the first from his country in 64 years to win. Born and Munchin. First in 64 years to win the Olympic marathon.

I'm sure I'm even saying that wrong anyway. It's actually... Mention! Mention! Or something. Actually, Matt, I think you'll find... I want those tweets. Do you?

I'll be confused, as I always am, because we're recording this, you know, six days before it goes out. I'll have no idea what you're talking about. Mention. Mention. What's a Munchin? But I'll say it'll all just be written down. Yeah. So it'll just look like it's not Munchen, it's Munchen.

That's how it'll look, every single tweet. Problem is, Matt, you're saying it like Munchen, when you should be saying it like Munchen. That's how it's going to look. Don't you know what the umlaut does, so are you? Munchin. No, I don't. Yeah, it makes it moon.

So that's the marathon, but it was a strange finish to the race traditionally held in the last day of the Olympics. As Frank Shorter was nearing the stadium, German student Norbert Sudhaus entered the stadium wearing a track uniform joined the race and ran the last kilometer, thinking he was the winner, the crowd began cheering him

before officials realized the hoax and he ran off. How good is that? He just ran in, everyone's like, yeah! And how good is his name as well? Norbert Sudhaus. Oh, my God. You could put almost any surname after Norbert, and it would be the best name.

So good. What about Flintstone? Norbert Flintstone. I mean, no, you're right. That's a winner. Try another one. Rubble. Norbert Rubble.

Okay. No, yeah. Okay, you're right. Anything else? I can't think of another character of that show. Dino. Dino. Norbert Dino.

That's good. Norbert Dino. There's probably someone called Rockwell on there or something like that. Oh, yeah. Probably. Norbert, Rockwell. Norbert So, Norbert Sood House. I've only just got Flintstones and Rubble.

I only just got that. 32 years old. Anyway. So, Norbert Sood House. He runs and he's a student. He's wearing, uniform, everyone's like, this guy's winning. He arrived seconds before Shorter,

who was actually winning the race, understandably perplexed to see someone ahead of him, and to hear the booze and cat calls meant for Sudhouse, because they were cheering, then they realized he's a phone, so the whole stadium turned on him. But it's the same time... He really killed that guy's big money. Yeah, he was running into people booing,

going, what's going on? ABC Sports Commentator Eric Siegel's impassioned cry during the confusion, It's a fake, Frank! Became a sound bite played repeatedly over the years. I watch the coverage. You should watch on YouTube. My favorite part is, this is an imposter.

Get him off the track. This happens at Bush League marathons. This doesn't happen at the Olympic marathon. Throw the bum out. Get rid of the guy. Get rid of the guy. So funny. The commentator really went for it.

Then the co-host says, someone, I hope his name is known for a little athlete infamy, has taken the boom of the applause that Frank should have got. And Eric Siegel responds, I hope his name is not known. Yeah. The winner Frank, later recalled, someone from the stands yelled,

don't worry, Frank. I said to myself, why should I worry? I'm winning. If someone had gone by me, I would have known it. Yeah, that's a good point. So, yeah. Bit of fun. Okay, so those are the things that the Olympics

should be famous for. Honestly, I get obsessed when I... We've done a few Olympic topics. Yeah. I love going through the fun little moments. I think a series going through each Olympic games could be really fun, because there's always controversial and fun moments,

new sports added. Imagine if we found, though, like there's just one Olympics in there, It's really dull. Really dull. I'm sure people won, people lost. But it was just around like clockwork. Atlanta, the toilet.

No controversy. Everyone who would call it. Honestly, yeah. If people won that, let me know. The toilet HG. I love it. I love going through the games, finding the highlights, the weird occurrences. Let me know if you can.

Hey, Dave. I think that, I think that sounds fantastic. But I've just found another fun fact. It looks like... Excuse me? You found what? Well, I've found another fact, I believe. So we call it Munich.

Germans call it Munchen Bavarians, even more local Minga Oh I love it Minga How good is that It was an absolute minga What a minger

So yeah I love going through the highest The fun bits basically But not like the main part of today's topic Because all that triumph and perseverance Of the 1972 Munich Games Has been massively overshadowed By a tragic event

And to give the background We briefly need to talk about something that is very difficult to briefly talk about, and that is the still ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine. If you guys know much about it, it's hugely complicated. This is quite a twist. Yeah. Yeah.

It's one of those things that's quite nuanced and obviously... Very much so. Yeah, very... It's hard to fully understand when you're not part of that community. So I know, yeah, very little. Hey, David, is this a topic you chose or was voted on? I've voted on this topic. They've voted on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

No, the 1970s, Munich. But to understand... To understand that, you need to understand. To understand why it happens. And also, I've deliberately talked about the fun parts of the games, and this is the U-turn, because that's what happened at the games. It's fun. Everyone's having a great time, and then an incident happens that just ruins all of that.

People are running out the dog's ass. Yeah, exactly. We're having a great time. Exactly. People are, it's, you know, it's living up to the game, games of friendliness. Until the American basketball team isn't accepting their silver medals. We're having a great time. So I'm going to try and give a bit of context, but it's very difficult to talk about briefly and like you said, just, very nuanced. Vox, if you want to look into it more, have a great series of articles that are linked to the show notes published by Zach Beecham in 2018.

Beecham sums it up in one sentence. Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs both want the same land and a compromise has proved. difficult to find. Okay. That is a nice sum up. If you want to read all, there's about 24 articles. Wow. And there's questions like, why is this?

Who is Israel? Who is Palestine? You click on it and he has a great summary and I really loved it. Whoa. Dave, that was great because it just made it sound like you're going to have to talk about this for a while, but you just nodded that one sentence. Fantastic. There is a bit more.

Okay. But, you know, I've summed it up as quickly as possible without leaving out all the context. He continues, Israel is the way. world's only Jewish state located just east of the Mediterranean Sea, Palestinians, the Arab population that hails from the land Israel now controls, refer to the territory as Palestine and want to establish a state by that name on all or part of the same land. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is over who gets what land and how it's controlled. And of course, both sides see the narrative very differently, which is also adding to the nuance and the confusion, but as a brief contextual guide, between 1896 and

in 1948, hundreds of thousands of Jews resettled from Europe to what was then British-controlled Palestine, including large numbers forced out of Europe during the Holocaust. The movement to create a homeland for the Jewish people is called Zionism. According to the virtual Jewish library, the legitimacy of the Zionist enterprise of returning Jews to the land of Israel is based on Jewish descent from the ancient Israelites. But again from Vox, but many Arabs saw the influx of Jews as a European colonial movement and the two peoples fought bitterly. Then the British couldn't control the violence and in 1947 the United Nations voted to split the land into two countries. There was a big war in 1948 and that uprooted 700,000 Palestinians from their homes, creating a refugee crisis

that is still not resolved. Palestinians call this mass eviction the Nakhba, which is Arabic for catastrophe. Then there was another war in 1967 and it left Israel in control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Two territories in the area. are home to large Palestinian populations. And one of the groups, we're getting there people, the groups fighting against this fact was the Palestinian Liberation Organization, or the PLO, the political party,

Fattar, controls the PLO. According to Vox, in the first decades after its 1964 creation, the PLO sought to destroy Israel and replace it with an entirely Palestinian state. Fata's founder is a very famous man called Yasser Arafat. You might have heard of. He employed military,

tactics towards this end, including attacks on Israeli civilians. So at first, it was like, huge war, we're going to kill them or get rid of them so we can have the land. But in the 80s and 90s, Arafat changed tactics and went from warfare to negotiations with Israel. And eventually, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1994. Wow. It's quite the about face.

But this was decades before that. And in 1971, which we're getting close to 1972, a breakaway militant, that's how time works. A breakaway militant faction of. the fat are was formed called Black September, which is a pretty bad-ass name. I do like that, actually. As a name. Yeah, it's pretty scary.

For a boy or girl. Yeah. Black September Jones. Ooh. Who are you having a kid with? Jonesy. Yeah, right. Jonesy.

Jonesy. Duh. Come on. That one. Now you've answered that. Do you feel silly? I feel very silly. You should feel silly.

Wow, this is obviously all very messy. It's very messy. But I'm trying to sum it up quickly. Yeah. To give the context before the story moves on again. But you need to know, Black September, they're named after a conflict between the PLO and the Kingdom of Jordan. There was a big incident. Black September were hardline militants willing to inflict great violence for their cause.

And some argue that they directly got their orders from Fatah, the Palestinian political party. Basically doing the party's dirty work. That's what some say. But other sources say they were a genuine radical breakaway from the more moderate Fatah operating with their own autonomy. Like whether they're so hardline they go off and do their own thing or whether they're just doing the dirty work so the political party can claim we had nothing to do with that.

And they did some pretty crazy stuff. Black September's first attack was the 1971 assassination of Jordan's Prime Minister. So that's sort of, that's the background here. Palestine, in terms of the Olympics, were not invited to join the Olympics until 1996. But in 1972, Black September planned to make their mark on the Olympic World State. anyway, albeit in a very different way. Okay. Flash mob?

I wish. There's no better way of getting your word out there than having a flash mob, am I right? Or skyriding. Those are the big two. If you can combine the two and one massive thing. Jumping out of the plane when people least expect it. Oh my God. Like you're on a 747.

Yeah. You pull that door. That's you go. Hold up a banner. Says, will you marry me, Janet? Now who's Janet? Is it Janet Jones? Oh my God.

Man, it's like you pay no attention to my personal life. Are you dating Janet Jones? Yeah, Jonesy. I don't have time. What do you think we're talking about? So Palestine, they're not at the Olympics until 1996 officially, but Israel were at the 72 games, and at 72, they sent 42 athletes.

And these games had a deeper meaning for their country. To quote from the Guardian, citizens of the young Jewish state, many of them Holocaust survivors or their children, were returning to the land, whose government had so recently set to wipe out their people from the earth. Holy shit. And marching with pride beneath their own flag.

Fencer Dan Allen later said, taking part in the opening ceremony only 36 years after Berlin was one of the most beautiful moments in my life. We were in heaven. Oh, that's so... Well, when they walked in the opening ceremony is a very moving moment. Flying under the Star of David in a country that, you know, a couple of decades ago, literally tried to kill those people.

Yeah, wow. So they're at the games, they're competing. They're part of that fun. part that I was talking about at the start of the game. All that peace. So much peace. So much peace. Peace and fun and, hey, it's sport.

Yeah, the spirit that is supposed to be done in. Let's play some sport, you guys. Have some fun. You know what I mean? Yeah, so much peace. It's a P-O-D, basically. That's so much O-D-on-P, I've been peace. Okay, that was confusing.

Because I was thinking of piss, and I was over to sing on piss over here. I mean, how much is too much? I'm full of piss. I found out. Like, yeah, bad grills in it over here. I've got three liters of water, but just in case I better drink my own piss. I better drink all of this piss. Whose piss is it?

Oh, who cares? Part of the fun is not knowing. Pretty big in Australian sport, the bubbler. Or at least in Sydney sport, you know, rugby league. Oh. Now the bubbler pop? No. Do I want to know?

It's where they rugby league players piss in her own mouth for fun. It's for fun. You're looking at me like it's not for fun. It's for a bit of fun, Bob. This is why I hate to make generalisations here. But this is why groups, more than four men, should not be allowed to hang out at any given time. Hang on, just because we've got a different culture to you.

I couldn't help but agree. No more than four. If you've got three more men in this room right now and you left, Jess. Within five minutes, we would be bubbling into our own mouths for fun. Honestly, it's, I don't think this is. a group activity. I think this is more of a solo thing. Maybe you've got one other guy there to film it.

And this is you pleading the case. I know. I mean, I... Do you recall this? I remember there was... You had a played on the Friday funnier at the project. Oh my God, no. It was a very graphic photo going around of an NRL player bubbling. I saw him on a, that guy, he

remember there was this ABC or maybe SBS show about reputation rehabilitation? No. I don't know. And he was on that. And it was with some of the, it was like the broad chaser sort of family of shows. Right.

And he was like, you know, it was just having, it was just fun. I really didn't think it would blow up into this big thing. Now it's all he's known for. I thought people would think it was really fun and cool that I pissed in my own mouth. La blah blah. And I think he said it was maybe even a perspective trick. He wasn't really doing it. Look, I'll show you now.

Please move on with this report. I hate talking about this. Okay. I wish I never knew about the bubler. Sorry about that. You do love Bear Grills though. I love Bear Grills. That's different.

He's like, it's just a slow-mo buggler. He's just added an extra step in. Yeah, he's putting in the cup. Yeah, the step is surviving. Okay, on September 4th, 1972, just over half-o through the Olympics, most of the Israeli delegation went out for a night at the theatre, watching a production of Fiddler on the roof.

Piddler on the roof. Could be another one for the, for the buggler. That's when you bubble on a roof. I'm trying everything to avoid you going on with this grim topic, I think. Well, at the time, Abu Diyud, who was a leader of the Black September organisation, was briefing eight of his colleagues at a restaurant in Munich's train station about what they were about to do. Before this, at least some of the group had been completely in the dark on their missions.

One of the eight militants, Jamal Al-Gashy, codenamed Samy. They'll get code names. Later recalled his reason for joining Black September. He claimed that he was born in extreme poverty in a refugee camp in Beirut and felt that joining the liberation movement and then Black September was a way of reshaping the future of his country and his people. He'd flown to Libya for a special training camp and had the feeling that he had been selected for a special operation,

but he had no idea what it was. He was taken to Munich where he stayed in a hotel and even attended a couple of Olympic volleyball matches. Just having a day out of that. the volleyball. But he maintains that until at the train station, he had no idea that the target was going to be the Israeli Olympians at the Olympic Village. A little after 4 a.m. that morning, September 5th, the 8 traveled to the Olympic Village via taxis. According to Time Magazine, they were each given a track suit with the name of an Arab nation on the back to blend in

in the village. Abu Diyud, the mastermind of the mission, did not join the men and the leader on the ground became Lutif Afif, codenamed Issa. I'm going to forget all these codenames. Well, he's the one you really have to remember because he's a leader. Now remember, there are no police or army at the village, which is deliberately lapsed on security. So there wasn't, there weren't, I thought you were sort of saying no visible ones, meaning there were a lot of undercover ones, but not even. No, no, they're not allowed in.

It was a rule saying, we'll take care of it. With these guys in blue, there's people in blue boys and chill and we trust you. Yeah, it's a friendly vibe. That's what they want. Yeah. The village was surrounded by a seven foot wire fence with some barbed wire on top, but it should have been easy enough to scale, but when they started climbing, these are the eight Palestinian guides, they were interrupted by a group of drunk American athletes returning

from a night out. They were also climbing the fence and breaking back into the village after hours. And rather than question the men, the Americans decided to cheerfully help them climb over the fence and into the Olympic village. Then the Palestinians also helped the Americans get back in, so they helped each other over the fence. The Americans had no idea that the sports bags being carried by the men, they were helping contained assault rifles, pistols and grenades.

How crazy would that be looking back on? Yeah, you wouldn't feel great about it, right? No. A group of passing post office workers also noticed the men, but they thought nothing of it. Because everyone's got peace on the brain. Exactly. It's been a great game. It's so fun.

Everyone's having a great time. This wasn't the first time in the village for some of the men. Two members of the group had already taken advantage of the lax security to visit the village and knew exactly where they were going. The address, 31 Connolly Strasser. That was the address of the building that contained the Israeli delegation over five apartments. The front door was unlocked. The terrorists forced their way into apartment one.

where the coaches were sleeping. Now, Israeli wrestling judge, Yosef Guitfrund. That is... Okay, yep. What? No, I realize he's wrestling judge or coach? No, he's a judge at the game, so he judges all... You know how I had...

There was a Romanian basketball referee before. He's like that for wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, gotcha. I was hoping they'd walked in, got a wrestler who went, mm-mm, not today. No way. Like, that's one of the last people you want to... Well, I mean, you say that, fantastic point, because he heard scratching at the door and thought it was a teammate returning home. He's an ex-wrestler himself.

That's how we got into it. Yeah, I would assume he'd had some experience in it or that would feel pretty hypocritical. When the door cracked open in the darkness, he could make out the barrels of several weapons. He was a big strong man and he threw his 6'3-132 kilo frame against the door and shouted out to the others. Danger, guys, terrorists. For critical seconds, Goodfrund succeeded in holding back the terrorists, allowing his roommate weightlifting coach, Twivia. Now we've got a weight lifter in there too.

Yeah, weightlifter in there too. They've chosen the wrong room. He was 132 kilos, you say. And six foot what? Six foot three. The man is a beast. That is a beast. And he's holding the door back with eight people with guns opening it. Let's be honest.

Somebody breaks into our room. It's me going to the door, isn't it? Your leg pressing that door. Oh my God. You're on your back. Legs against the door. I said, boys, you take your time. I've got this all day.

Dave and I are. cuddling in the corner. Shivering. Oh, please. Please, Bob, save us. So he held the door for it. Wow. For several seconds, allowing his roommate weightlifting coach, Tuvia Sokolovsky,

to shatter a rear window and flee to safety through a backyard garden. Save that man's life. Apparently, the force to which Goodfrund held the door back was so strong that it bent the hinges. Get fucked! He was fighting for his life. But of course, eventually the strength of eight men pushed the door open using their guns as crowbars to crowbar their way in. Bending their guns and now the bullets shoot at a weird angle.

Straight back at them. Oh no. Oh no. Wrestling coach Moshi Weinberg was confronted by the group's leader Issa. Weinberg picked up a nearby fruit knife. Try to fight back, but he was shot through the cheek after slashing out. What? It didn't kill him.

The wounded Weinberg was then ordered by the terrorists at gunpoint to show them where the rest of the Israelis were because they're in a apartment one. But he took them past Apartment 2, lying and saying there's no Israelis inside there, and he went to Apartment 3. Because Apartment 2 contained fences and race walkers. The weak ones? Yeah, the small slider ones. He hoped that the six larger wrestlers and weightlifters in Apartment 3 would stand more of a chance of resisting.

Yeah, but fuck, you still throwing somebody under the bus, but what else can he do? I'm 100% on his side, and good call. And like, those little ones are useless. It's like, okay, well, Apartment 2 has all the jockeys in it. Don't worry about that. I guess we'll go try the wrestlers and weightlifters. Apartment 2's got puppies in there. We'll leave them.

Yeah, the biggest, yeah, the biggest two. Sadly, they were all asleep and caught completely by surprise. They hadn't been woken up. Otherwise, they probably would have been a much better chance because they were big dudes. But he did manage to save lives. All five residents of Apartment 2 managed to leave the building through the garden and flee to safety,

because he lied and said, oh no, they're not Israelis. Wow. The athletes, sadly, from apartment three, like you said, yes, it's got to be someone. We're ordered at gunpoint back to the coach's apartment in apartment one. And then the already shot in the cheek, Weinberg, again attacked the gunman. Very brave man. Are you kidding me?

Very brave. Tragically, he was shot again and he died this time. But his second heroic action and the distraction it caused allowed one of the wrestlers, Gad Sabari, to escape. He pushed one of the militants' guns out of the way and ran for a door, and just sprinted through a car park. And even though he was pursued by a gunman who shot at him in the car park, he just kept running.

That was only because Weinberg had distracted them for a second, sacrificing his life. So he saved two people very directly and then the entire second apartment. Yeah. That's amazing. So, I mean, how do we just, they've sort of assumed that that was the story because he died. He wasn't able to say that he,

but the story was told that he took him past that room. And they filled in the blank sort of thing. Holy shit. So this guy, Gatsabari, who ran away. He ran to the Olympics press center. He just sprinter there to report what was going on. He was ignored for the first few seconds, because it's like four or five in the morning, until taking a journalist aside and calmly explaining what had happened and who he was.

After being escorted under police guard, Sabari found a woman that spoke Hebrew and German. And over the next five hours, he sketched. on maps and to describe what had happened, how he'd escape, what kind of people, how many people were injured and how many terrorists, all that sort of stuff, which authorities thought for a long time was four, because he'd seen four people. And that's an important detail. They think there's four guys with guns. But there's... It's actually eight. Four. That's double. Yes. Hang on. Yeah, double. Yeah, double. That's at least double. I don't think we can be more precise than that. I don't think we can be more precise than that. I don't think we can be more

on me right now. Okay, I didn't know I had to bring that to work today. I didn't know I needed my T-I-5 or whatever it was called. I still have one somewhere. Really? I think so. Did you ever do the thing where you... Made it say boobs, of course.

No, but made it play games or something? Some people, like... Yeah, had games on it. And there was also a game you could put on it or a program you could put on it that made it look like you weren't playing a game. Oh. So, or that you had no saved things in it. It was just a program that, like, imitated it, the...

calculator. That's so awesome. But if the teacher just knew, if they did have one flashing pixel. Oh, was it like a space invader flashing in the top right corner or something? Oh, that's weird? If the teacher knew about it,

then you were done. But, yeah, that was funny. Funny memories. I wasn't good at maths. So I was playing a lot of games. Yeah, they were great games in there. I can't remember any of them. Good times.

Before iPhones. Yeah, that's right. The best we had. If you're listening, kids. That's all we had. So the remaining 10 hostages, so there's 10 left alive, were all forced into a single bedroom. One of the weightlifers, Yossif Romano,

had been unable to compete one of his lifts due to a ruptured knee tendon. He was due to fly home to Israel on the next day on September 6th to have an operation. Just stuff like that breaks your heart. It all does. Yeah. Those just those chance moments. Those little details. Oh gosh, you weren't supposed to be there.

Just a twist of the knife, isn't it? It really hurts. But once inside the apartment, Romano attacked the intruders, slashing Afif Ahmed Hamid, code name Pallo, in the face with a pairing knife, another fruit knife, and tried to grab his AK-47 away from him before being shot himself. Fucking, that's some badass stuff. Oh, man, they're so... They're brave, brave people.

Whoa. He died in the apartment, and his body was left on the floor as a warning to the others, which is, oh, so, so grim. That's horrendous. So there were nine hostages left alive who were tied together, and I'll give you a little background on all of them. 40-year-old Joseph Gutfrund, who was the Romanian-born wrestling judge who had thrown his weight against the door, allowing at least one colleague to escape and also waking up the others in the apartment, or the other apartments, rather. 53-year-old shooting coach Kehat Shaw, born in Romania. Because that's the thing about Israel. It's a relative to the new country, so most of these people are not born in Israel.

They're from the Jewish people from all over the world. Yeah. So even in itself, the delegation is extremely multicultural. When did you say Israel was formed? the late 1940s. So it was kind of, it was it pretty much a response to the, you know, to Nazis and all that? Yes, 1948. Right.

Yeah, after the British mandate of Palestine expired and the UN rule, there'll be two countries from now. It sadly didn't last very long. But yeah, so, but it's a relatively new country. And most of these people, yeah, they're from all around the world. 40-year-old track and field coach, Amitzaa Shapir, who was born in Tel Aviv. He was the coach of Esther Roth Sharimorov, who became the first Israeli to make an Olympic final at the next Olympics in the 100-meter hurdles. There's also 27-year-old fencing master and coach, Andre Spitzer, also born in Romania. Was that, wasn't the swimmer Spitzer?

Spitz. Mark Spitz, yes. No relation. No relation. Because of the difference. But I will talk about him again in relation to this story. Okay. In a minute.

So, but Andre Spitzer, he's the... fencing coach. His wife, Anki, recalled that just a few days earlier, and this is just another Olympic story of what it should be like at the Olympics. She recalled that he spotted members of the Lebanese team and told me he was going over to say hello to them. And I said to him, are you out of your mind? They're from Lebanon. Israel was in a state of war with Lebanon at the time. Anki, he said calmly, that's exactly what the Olympics are all about. Here I can go to them. I can talk to them. I can ask them how they are. That's exactly what the Olympics are all about. So he went, towards this Lebanese team and he asked them,

how are your results? I'm from Israel. How to go? And to my amazement, I saw that the Lebanese responded and they shook hands with him and they talked to him and they asked him about his results. I'll never forget when he turned around and came back towards me with this huge smile on his face. You see, he said excitedly, this is what I was dreaming about. I knew it was going to happen.

That's very sweet. That's very sweet. Very nice. He'd also, the day before, before the hostage taking, he'd gone to see his daughter who was in the Netherlands staying with her grandparents and she was a baby at the time and the couple went to go see her and spent a few days with her because I think she'd been sick and when she was given the clean bill of health Andre was said you know what you're all good to go back to join the team in Munich

but he missed the train that morning that this is the morning before but he said to his wife Anki oh well listen I got to spend another day with you but she insisted he could make it you could probably make it to the next station she drove really fast beating the train where he was able to board, and he'd only be back four hours because he got there at midnight or something when he was taken as a hostage. But it's one of those things again,

it's like, if you could go back in time and tell him, don't get on the train. Yeah, stay here. Oh, whoa. Awful. Yeah. 50-year-old weightlifting judge Yakov Springer was also in the room. He had been born in Poland,

and during the Holocaust took part in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, the largest single revolt by Jews during World War II. He was the only member of his immediate family that survived the war. and Munich, 1972, was his fifth Olympics as a judge. What? So he'd been to a lot. Wow. He has, apart from all that, been pretty sick.

His name's fantastic. Yakov Springer. That's very good. Rolls off the tongue. Springer. I like a lot of these names. I really do. Yeah, they're really great.

24-year-old Latvian-born wrestler, Eliza Helfen, was a mechanic, and had only been a citizen of Israel for seven months. He was eliminated in the third round of the lightweight freestyle wrestling. Freestyle. You can do whatever you want. They put some music on. You just go with it. That's what I'm imagining for freestyle.

Yeah, of course. It's the same in the pool, right? I see. Put music to the water. That is what freestyle means, right? They can swim any style. Yeah, but freestyle is just the fastest. Yeah.

So it sort of just became... But if you're better at Butterfly, then other people are at freestyle, you can do that. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. Because the stroke, it's... It's called Ozzy Crawl or the Crawl or something. What? Yeah.

What? Isn't that right? But I think over time, freestyle is kind of, you know, became synonymous for it. There's what people call it the freestyle way. Because it is the fastest way to swim. What? Yeah, but if you happen to be able to swim like a dolphin or whatever quicker,

if you can, like, kick your legs. You can technically do that at the Olympics. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. What? There's a rule on that dolphin thing under the water that have to come up a certain amount. Oh, you're right. Once you don't. They used to be able to.

I think you used to be able to do it basically as long as you could, and then people were really starting to take the piss. You're like up and back. Yeah. No worries. Whoa, I did not know that. That is a fun fact I just learned. The ultimate pleasure of a child is being in a, like, a family pool

and seeing how many laps you can do from one end to the other in one breath. Yeah. Front crawl. Front crawl. That makes sense. Also known as Australian crawl or American crawl. Oh, and is that where the band Aussie crawl goes. Wow. There were swimming fans all along.

I'm finally learning something on this podcast. Wow. It's only taken seven years. Can I go home now? Yep, that's enough. I'm done for the day. Bye-bye. Okay. I'm nearly through my list here, but I did want to mention all of them.

There was 18-year-old Mark Slavin, who was born in Belarus, and had moved to Israel just four months before the Olympic Games. The youngest Israeli Olympian competing at the Games, he was also considered the nation's most likely medal contender and was due to make his Olympic debut on the day he was taken hostage. Oh my God. So he didn't get to compete. He was the favorite of his country.

What was his sport again? He was another wrestler. Ah. And then there was 28-year-old weightlifter David Berger born in God's Country, Cleveland, Ohio. What? I love Ohio. I cannot wait to get there. Are we going to get there this year?

I don't want to jinx it. We can dream. We can dream big. I want to travel along that golden mile. I don't know if it's walking distance or what, but we've got to hit up Gary, Indiana. Are you on a walk along the gold mile? Ohio.

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. From what? And then we're going to hit up the creamies. All the way in Vermont. In Vermont. We've got to extend the mile quite a long way. Yeah. Well, maybe if we need to get like a scooter or something, then I guess.

Right. One of those e- scooters or something, I guess that should be fun. We'll split three ways or get on there. I don't, yeah. Carried dive on my back. Have we added anywhere else? on the golden mile. I can't remember. But they're some of the key ones. Yeah, that's some of the

some of the must sees. Yeah. There's a few more possibilities. Yeah. So, yeah, this guy, David Berger, he's born in Cleveland. A psychology and MBA law degree graduate from Columbia University in 1968, competing as a bit of weight. He finished fourth in the U.S. Olympic trials, and

his father, Benjamin, was once quoted as saying, I used to tell him, you may not be the best weightlifter in the world, but you're certainly the smartest. It is so good. That's okay. I guess that doesn't really count, Dad. I'm about to go try and lift a heavy thing.

Yeah, well, you might not be able to do that, but I reckon you could out thinking. Yeah, but you went to Columbia. Pretty good. Ask him a math question when you're out there. It's just dad not knowing how to just tell a kid I'm proud of you. When do they do the written test? You tell me they don't? Yeah.

When's the special talent bit? You could do your arithmetic. He knows part of like 15 places. Pretty good. 3.14. I can do it to two places. Okay, fancy men. He'd immigrated to Israel for work and won a silver medal at the 1971 Asian weightlifting

championships, so he's very good and achieved a long-time dream when he was chosen to represent Israel as a member of the 1972 Israel Olympic team. He was also eliminated in an early round. But still, he competed. That was his dream. What a guy. And the final hostage was the 28-year-old weightlifter, Zeyev Freidman, who was born in Russia, then the Soviet Union.

He placed 12th, which was one of the best achievements of any Israeli athlete at the time. It's just like, yeah, talk about just being at the Olympics. It would be so surreal. How cool. Living your dream like that. Yeah, I love it. What's your dream again, Dave? So have a top 10 hit, isn't it?

Yeah, at top 10 hit. Aria charts? At the Olympics. At the Olympics. Yeah, that's right. So it has to be once every four years. You've only got a two-week period to get in the top 10. perform at the opening ceremony and then go top 10 and then go platinum.

Would you accept it if it was, you know, in the New Zealand charts or the American charts or anything? That means nothing to me. Okay. It's got to be Australian Aria charts. I reckon I'd take it actually. You take the American chart? Oh, you think you'd take it? I'd take the board.

I'll take the hot 100. You know what? I've thought about it and I concede. I would accept top one. Exactly. I will not accept an Oscar, but I will take an actor award. Okay. I recognize the Australian arts.

Hey, well, you were an actor nominee, which is still very surreal. We lost to some children. Hey, and their parents. And their parents who exploit the children. Hang on. Allegedly. What? I'm covered now.

I don't know anything about them. Is that true? Yeah, it's just a family that vlogs all the time. Yeah. Sounds pretty cool. And our series with a set and, you know, many people working on it, nah. Just filmed some kids doing stuff.

I think they should give the awards to whoever had the most people working on it. I agree. Thank you. I agree. It's nice and we're on the same team. Well, I don't think we would have won this. No, me either. Yeah, you're right.

Because of all of those kids. Yeah, that's where I'm about the kids. Family of 15 or something. Such a big family. Stop filming your kids. Anyway, do go on. You've moved on at least, Bob. Yeah, I'm fine about it.

You don't set. I forget that that even happened, but yeah. Wild to be involved. Yeah. Wild that there is at basically the Australian. and Oscars there's a category for online series. My God, we could get it for the Oscars. That'd be great.

Is the Oscars work the same way that you have to nominate yourself? Yeah, I think so. But like, through your manager. Which is what we? Through your release people, yeah. Through Sony or something. Okay, so they're the nine hostages. Issa, the leader of the eight terrorists, was also the spokesperson,

person wearing a white suit, a white pith helmet, large sunglasses, and black boot polish on his face as a disguise. So let's add blackface to his already list of horrific crimes. He came out the front of the apartment and calmly and coolly gave his demands whilst holding a grenade. Oh. What's a pith helmet again? No, sorry, it's a piss helmet. You know, like one of those like safari hats? Right. That's quite an outfit.

Yeah. It's a lot going on about that outfit. Soft a, I've seen some people say Pith helmet, other people say bucket helmet. Bucket hat. Like Waiters. He was dressed as the guy from Wheatown. Her name is Noel. Dave, can I just say? Hit all of those moments perfectly made.

Good stuff. Good stuff. I think you will get a top ten head. Well, that guy did. One of these Olympians. He was no help. So he's wearing this outfit as a disguise. he came out in front of the apartment and calmly and coolly gave his demands whilst holding grenade, like I said.

At about 5am, he handed over a note to the police. It demanded the release of 234 Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, plus two imprisoned German terrorists in return for their hostages safe release. If this was not done by 12pm, the hostages would be executed. That's what the note says. Super long list, so many names. The negotiators really had no idea who or what they were dealing with. They only saw three terrorists at any time.

They saw Issa, another guy codenamed Tony, who stood at the window, always smoking and wearing sunglasses and a cowboy hat. So they're all in different fancy dresser. Yeah, so they came in wearing those... Oh, village people. Yeah, so they came in wearing those outfits to look like athletes, and then they quickly changed into these disguises. So you've got the Safari man, go with the Safari hat?

Safari hat. Or Bucket out, or the Whitton of the Wheatist guy. Yeah, we've got Weedest. We've got Cowboy Tony, who's nicknamed in the me. it was cowboy. And then another man who stood guard at the balcony door, he wasn't super dressed in any way remarkably. The only other clearly visible terrorists became the iconic image of the event,

a man wearing a ski mask out on the balcony. And you Google, you know, Munich hostages, Munich Massacre, or the sort of stuff. Yeah. I remember that image. You'll see this guy. It's very menacing because it's like a man in a balaclava. Yeah. It's been suggested that this was Khalid Jawad, aka Sala,

Code name of Sala, but it's still unclear which of the group it was because he had his face fully covered. And at this point, they still only think there's four of them. Four based on the interview with the guy who got away. And they've only seen these three. And they've only seen three and they think, oh, there's probably another one inside. But really, there's four more. And at this point, all the eight terrorists are still alive? Yep.

Because he said one of them got attacked, but it was. Oh, yeah. He got hit on the nose with a knife, but it wasn't life-threatening anyway. It's just a minor wood. Right. Yeah. On the nose. Mm.

Slashed him. The authorities were left asking a lot of questions. It even took time to work out how many hostages they had inside. They're trying to work at who was supposed to be in that building, who has since escaped and then trying to do the maths on who's in there. It was very, you know, and it was awful for the families of the Israeli athletes because it became news, but they didn't know if it was their family in there, who it was. Negotiations were handled by Bruno Merck, the Bavarian Interior Minister.

His federal counterpart, Hans Dietrich Gencha, and Munich's chief of police, Manfred Schreiber, as well as mayor of the Olympic village, Walter Troga. You know, you've got to get the mayor involved. There's not been a single name, it isn't fantastic. Oh, they're all great names, aren't they? There was also, according to the Guardian, the assistance of a female police officer, who it was hoped would be a calming presence on all involved. Sorry.

I was wondering when they were going to do that, because that's the obvious move. Boys, boys. Calm down. All right, no, what are we going to do? There's a bunch of men in there. We've got to get a woman. We've got to get a mother in there to calm them down. Yeah, we've got a mother these boys.

This is much like what they did at Woodstock 99. Remember they got them? Yeah, that's right. Try to send a mum around, calm them down. Love that lady. Would you say I have a calming effect on you guys? Absolutely. I'm falling asleep at all times around.

Women, we'll bore you to death. Yeah, my gosh. Send in the soothers. Okay, women. Shsh, shh, shh, shh, shh. Do you know that, the little bum pats? Shush. Bum.

There's nothing more comforting than a bum pat. I challenge you. I agree. A little pat on the bum? Oh my God, nothing like it. I should add that no psychologist or trained hostage negotiators were ever consulted. Dave, they sent in a woman. It's fine.

Instinct. We're all psychologists and negotiators. Which is so baffling now, but I think at the time, this kind of thing hasn't happened very much. No, no, no. So there's not a whole... There's no protocols. Yeah, there's not a whole industry based around this at this point. Yeah.

This is the start of the 70s. After this, there's lots and lots of plain hijackings. It becomes like the thing of the era. But at this time, no one really knows what to do. Golda Mia, the Israeli prime minister, was absolutely firm that under no circumstances would any deals be struck with the terrorists. There was no way any of the prisoners they wanted released would be released. She said, if we should give in, then no Israeli anywhere in the world can feel his life is safe.

She's very strict. We can't do a deal. The German authorities offered to trade places with the athletes, and this was refused. They said, we'll give up ourselves if you let them go. Holy shit. It's been commonly commented they did this as to avoid further Jewish bloodshed on German soil. They were very worried about that. Yeah, they are feeling.

Literally putting their, yeah. Yeah. But they're feeling particularly guilty. Yes, exactly. And fair enough. But wow, that's a big take us instead. You've still got people. I'm important.

I'm the mayor of the village. Wow. Let me in there. Yeah. They also offered an unlimited amount of money. They said, name a price, you can have it. They literally said unlimited. It was all the money in Germany.

Infinity dollars plus one. $45. Oh, shit. Shit. This was also refused. The Black September group stayed firm and would make no other deals. They wanted the prisoners released or else. Wow.

As the 12 p.m. deadline approached, even though Israel said they would never make a deal. The Germans lied to Issa and still said they needed more time before a decision from Jerusalem came through. They begged for more time and Issa responded with a new threat. He said they would publicly execute one of the hostages every hour that his demands remained unmet, which sounds terrible, but before he was going to kill them all at midday, so at least, but I think he's trying to step up the threat. Yeah. But looking at the maths on it, come on, man. That's not right. things got more and more tense, but at 1159, with just a matter of seconds to go until the deadline,

Issa agreed to an extension, the new deadline, 5pm. Wow. You said you've got five hours to release those prisoners, or we'll start killing people. Meanwhile, the whole situation became an absolute media frenzy. This was a live terrorist event happening where the world's media was already gathered. It was the first time a terrorist incident

had reached a global audience during a live broadcast, because they're all there for the Olympics. There's hundreds of cameras already. They've got a media. media centre like a few hundred metres away. So was Bruce there? Oh, Bruce is there. Yeah, Bruce.

Was Bruce active in this early, do you think? Bruce Maccabany we're talking about? I feel like Bruce has been around for centuries. Yeah, that's right. I haven't lived in a world where Bruce wasn't at every sporting event. Yeah, Bruce has always existed. Yeah. Bruce is.

Bruce is eternal. There's always been a Bruce. God, who'd be the next Bruce? That's, I mean, big shoes to fill. Massive. So he was born in 53. He's 19 years old. It's 19 years old.

Probably, well. So I reckon he was a Wunderkind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. I don't think he was there. Someone, I know, there probably would have been some ABC or Nine's wide world of sports or something there. Because about 900 million people are believed to watch the hostage crisis live on television. Whoa.

It was huge news. NPR writes, at the Olympic Press Center, 11 monitors showed the ongoing athletic events, while another three were trained on the building where the Israelis were being held hostage. David Marash was a CBS radio reporter at the time, and he said in 2002, those simultaneous images flickering on those monitors struck me as the most incongruous, most inappropriate, most flat, surreal visual memory of my life. Because even though this might seem unbelievable now, despite what was going on, the International Olympic Committee refused to halt the games.

Oh, wow. Athletes continued to compete. people protested around the world at this calling it a ridiculous and callous decision at 6am the outgoing so he's on the way out anyway president of the IAC American man Avery Brundage

Avery So this is before Dick Pounds era That's right This is Avery Rogg This is the era of Avery Brundage he was told of the situation

He ordered that the game should continue And at 815 am, with two Olympians lying dead in the Athletes Village, the day's scheduled event began on time. Whoa. That would feel so strange. So weird. To quote from the Guardian, Brondidge spent his day exerting pressure on German officials to get

the Israelis out of the village and allowed the Olympics to carry on in peace. The games, he said, must continue at all costs. Notice he says, we've got to get the Israelis out, not we've got to get the terrorists out. Yeah. He's like, just make it go away from the Olympics. I don't want it associated with the Olympics anymore. Super cold, super callous. Right.

Wow. This is the IAC boss. Yep. Heavly criticized since. That's interesting. What was his name? Avery Brundage. So he was there, it looks like he was there from 52 to 72.

Yeah, so this is his last games. Dick Pound was never there. I don't know. Jacques Roald. Dick Pound is a very high up official though, isn't he? I was Juan Antonio Samarach was the one when we were kids. Yeah. When you were kids.

1980 to 2000. He was only called Sydney the best games ever. Agreed. We'll take it. Dick Pound is currently the longest serving member of the IOC. Right. And with a fantastic name. Let's be honest.

The all-time great name. Dick Pound. Dick Pound. I mean, Jacques Rog is so good. Very good. But, come on. Dick Pound. Dick.

Sorry, Jacques. Sorry, Jacques. Step aside. That is so funny. Dick Pound. And did I say that Bruce's first first. The first Olympics that he covered was Moscow 1980. Oh, okay.

Close. Wow, he's been around for such a long time. That's so long, isn't it? Wow. Yeah, he arrived the same year as Juan Antonio Samaranch. There you go. Well, maybe the American Bruce is Jim Mackay, or Jim McKay. He's famously associated with the coverage of the 1972 event here.

He hosted the ABC's Wild World of Sports in America. On his only day off during the Olympics, he heard what, was going on and he came in to report on the ongoing hostage situation and was on air for 14 hours without a break. Whoa. Pissing in a bucket. Wild. Yeah, he must have been.

Piddling on the roof. So the IOC finally bowed to intense international pressure and the Olympic events were finally halted at 3.51 p.m. 10 hours after the news of the situation first reached the IOC leadership. The fact that they didn't halt the game earlier would be criticized for years afterwards. Yeah. That isn't that wild? That could never happen now.

There's a terrorist event a couple hundred meters away from where events are being held. Yeah. It's just wild. It was like, I mean, not at all the same scale, but there was an NFL game last month when a player basically died on the field. He was resuscitated. But it was no one knew if he was going to survive. Luckily, he did.

But it wasn't known for days. And apparently the NFL commissions like, give each team five minutes to, to warm up and we'll get the game going again. And the guys still lying on the field. My God. And apparently both teams and their coaches said, no, games over. Games that we're not playing. Fire out.

Yeah. Don't you think, like surely. Hey, hey, hey, I'm an empath. Everybody takes five minutes. I know that's a bit stressful. Bit stressful, isn't it? Five minutes. About five.

Okay. But I mean five. I don't mean like, I'm in a tight five. Okay. I want you on, ready to go. Thank you five. Thank you five. I'm afraid I've already hit start on the timer when I started this sentence,

so there's only four minutes 30 left. Good luck out there. Wild. Yeah, just like surely the instinct still isn't all right. Well, sport is great, but nearly anything outranked sport. That's right. This is much bigger, much, much bigger. So Mark Spitz, who had already won his seven gold medals at this point,

was immediately evacuated out of the country upon hearing of the terrorist attack because he himself was Jewish and the American team worried that he could become a very high profile victim and a target. He was the only one of the American team kicked, like, taken out? Were there other Jewish people in the? Probably, yeah.

But they're like, he's our highest profile Jewish. We can't risk this mustache. Wow, that's... They got him out of there. Yeah, okay. It's an interesting move. The Egyptian team fearing reprisals also packed their bags and immediately flew home.

Wow. So they were like, all right, the game's over. Yeah. Like, I mean, it feels like nearly everyone should be. It's over. It's done. It's so wild to look back and there's so much footage of it.

Throughout most of the village, life went on pretty much as usual. The Canadian dorm, which is next to the Israelis, wasn't even evacuated. They were told they could stay and just keep living there as normal. So there's dudes with machine guns in the building next to you. They have grenade. They know they've got grenades. The guys walking around with the grenade and they're like, no, you can live there. What?

It's fine. What? If I was on the Canadian team, I'd have some strong opinions about that. It's so funny. It's funny you say that because I felt that same way, but then I listened to an interview with a Canadian guy. He's a reporter, and he's covered like every Olympic game since this, but he was an athlete at the time.

And he said, at the time, we didn't fear fearful at all. It was mostly because these sort of terrorist events were so out of the world to us. We couldn't even imagine what was happening in there. And he goes, I never felt fear. And he goes, looking back, I probably should have. Yes. But we didn't question it at all.

We just went, oh yeah. Isn't that if fascinating it's like, we couldn't even comprehend it? We know there's, you know, there's hand grenades and guns. Yeah, people are being held hostage there. We're aware what they mean, but. Our peers are fearing for their life. Our imagination can't. I know, so it's just funny.

It just shows it was a different world. You know, our terrorism, we've just grown up with it and all that sort of stuff on TV and things. But just for them or whatever, he just said, we just didn't really think about it, which is, and he's kind of, you know, apologize for it. He's like, I'm sorry that I didn't really think about it. Yeah, I mean, not his fault. It should have been handled so much. No, exactly.

He should have been in a rush to his own safety. So it was a ridiculous juxtaposition. In one building, nine athletes and Olympic staff are being held hostage at literal gunpoint. But the rest of the village people innocently sunbathe played table tennis. They trained. They still run around and just had a great time. Imagine sunbathing.

Yeah, and there's footage of that. And like, there's footage. It pans from where, like, the building where you can see like guys with machine guns, that guy in the bellic clava and then it pans over at like 100 meters and there's just athletes sunbathing just next you know behind a fence so weird it's so weird it's so insensitive it's so strange wow it was i guess a different world but they just didn't really think the german authorities did make an attempt to do something but it's not the most solid plan see what you think of this they delivered food for the hostages in such large quantities that they hoped that more than one

would be required to come and get the food and then they could rush them. Or if that didn't work, they hoped that the two chefs delivering the food would be allowed to drop it off because it's so much of it. And then they could at least count how many terrorists they were dealing with. And the men dressed as chefs like, you imagine it, a chef's costume. That's what they're dressed as. Yeah, like a Muppet sort of. Yeah, like a parody of a chef.

That's what they look like. Big puffy hat. Yeah, a big puffy hat. But they're actually secretly policemen. But no one was allowed in. and one of the terrorists came out and grabbed the food in a few trips. Yeah, it wasn't the best plan, to be honest. Yeah, and just came out four times and just grabbed the food.

Room service. Yeah. A plan to flood instant knockout gas through the air conditioning system was abandoned because no such gas could be found. They're like, how about that? I don't think it exists. It sounds like it was a good plan. I was thinking about it before.

I'm like, they should just throw on some of that gas. Yeah. They didn't have any. Okay. That's probably a good reason. It's interesting to note that calling in the army wasn't an option because West Germany's post-war constitution limited the domestic use of the army during peacetime.

This is one of the post-war agreements after Germany surrendered after World War II. They can't really do anything with their army. It feels like a little bit of an exception. I might be required here. Let's make a fucking exception. Okay, it's not, we're not using it for, you know, for bad. We're using it for good. That's right.

You know what I mean? Can we please borrow the army for good? Hmm. That's like they found a loophole. Yeah. Ah, ah, ah. We just want them for good. At 4.30pm, half an hour before the next deadline, it was announced in the media that police dressed as athletes would storm the apartment at 5pm and come in shooting.

They announced this in the media. Oh, no. No, that's a good idea. That's a good plan. The squad was made up of 38 volunteers who came from the police and West German border guards. Because remember, no army actually trained people. These people were in no way trained for this situation, and they were not discreet. News crews from all over the world covered them from every angle, showing them walking around

the building with guns whilst wearing track suits and helmets. They got up on... So they're trying to look like athletes, but they're holding machine guns and wearing bulletproof helmets. And if the terrorists inside are watching the TV coverage, which they assume they are. But you'd assume that they'd look into that, right? Yeah. Well, they got up on the roof, they got on opposite balconies and waited to hear the the code word sunshine and that's when they'd start storming.

Sunshine, everyone runs in. The signal never came and thank God for that because after this, they realized that every room in the Olympic Village had a TV. So inside the terrorists were watching their every move as news anchors commentated. So stupid. How fucking stupid do you have to be? It was absolute amateur hour out there. It was so...

I mean, it was before the Olympics were pro, Dave. That's right. I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry, you're a professional negotiator? Get out. Get out of here. This is for amateurs only. This is not in the Olympic spirit.

it. Get me a woman. So it's absolutely amateur hour, as is noted in the fantastic Academy Award winning documentary on this called One Day in September. Oh my God. That's a famous Ozzy Rules song. I've had that song on my head for three weeks at this point.

Yeah, right. Don't get in my. Not to remember. We can't be in the chat. I don't know the worst. In the show. Football such a party. of this old town.

Amazingly they don't play that song. Is that? Yeah, that's funny. I assumed I would know the words of that. That's happened a few times lately, where you've started seeing and gone, wow, I really thought I'd know the words. I thought it would just kick in.

Yeah. Look, it's up there, Gazali, which is his other big footy hit. Yeah. Which is a very similar song, but I'm sure I know the words of that. Oscar-winning documentary. Oh, yeah, it's called One Day September,

so I have had that song on my head. One day in September. And someone says in the documentary that interviewed about this, and they say, at the time everyone was transfixed by the myth of utter German ruthless efficiency, and in this instance, it could not be further from the truth. Wow. No one has any idea what they're doing.

That's kind of brutal, but pretty funny. That review, I mean. Yeah, it's what they're saying. Yeah, this is absolutely baffling. The hostage takers inside, they'd been told by the leaders that had planned this, not to let the situation go on for more than 24 hours. They said, that's all you can handle.

It's mentally taxing, I guess. I meant it's a long day for them too. I doubt they're taking breaks. Yeah, no. And it's a very intense situation for them and the hostage. And you can't. You're assuming that they're not expecting to leave this alive either. Well, they were told if their demands weren't met, which is likely,

they should demand a plane where they could take their hostages to a nearby friendly Arab country. And this is exactly what they demanded at 6pm. They realized we're not getting the prisoners released. We've got to get out of here. We should have taken the infinity dollars. Yeah, we should have taken that money. Gosh, that would have been good. No ink packs.

Yeah. So they, yeah, right. So they're not, they haven't killed anyone. I haven't killed anyone further. They killed two people in the morning during the takeover. But at 6pm they demanded a plane, fueled plane with a pilot to fly them to a friendly Arab country. The Germans agreed to the demand,

but secretly they decided they would not let terrorists take anyone who was a guest in their country away and decided this was when they would take action to either kill or arrest the militants. They were like, the Israelis are here as guests of ours. We cannot let them be taken out of the country. I say that to Uber drivers trying to pick people up from my house. I'm like, they are a guest of mine. I will not let them leave. I'm afraid I can't let that happen.

And they're like, no, just I called the Uber. And I'm like, don't you try and cover for him. Yeah. You don't have to. I've got your back. You're safe here. You're safe here, I say. As you lock the door.

They're like, that's not. I'd like to go to my house. No, no, no, no. You're touching their lips. Ba, pop, pop, ba, bah, bah. Shh, shh. I pat him on the bum. Some have argued that the Germans' main objective

was to get the hostages away from the village to allow the Olympics to continue and that the safety of the Israeli hostages were secondary. Wow. That's commentators. Some people have said that. Right. But let me tell you the plan.

The plan was to have helicopters take them to Fustenfeld-Bruck Air Base where a Boeing 7-4-7 plane would be left on the runway with its engines idling and a crew on board. They tell the terrorists that they could fly them to a friendly nearby nation. Really, the 12 crew waiting in the plane wearing Lufthansa uniforms would actually be armed police who had all volunteered for the job. In addition, four snipers were placed on the control tower and another on the ground on

the other side of the tarmac. So they had five snipers for what they believed were four of maximum five terrorists. One for each. Right. When Issa and his deputy went to inspect the plane, the fake crew of police would overcome them, and then the snipers would quickly take out the other two terrorists. Remember, they'd think there's only four. So they didn't think just in case.

Let's have a few more. Yeah, a few directions. Four or five should be right. And then armoured assault vehicles would rush into shield and then rescue the hostages. doesn't sound like too bad of a plan, right? Well, prepared to be more annoyed than you've ever been in your entire life. Oh, God. So, the hostages and their captors were taken to the two helicopters on a bus,

and then they were flown to the airfield. The hostages had their hands tied, and then they were tied together in the helicopters, making it impossible for them to make a break for it and run away. As they left the bus and walked onto the helicopters, a critical bit of information was revealed. There wasn't four or max-five terrorists, as they thought all day. in fact there was eight all heavily armed.

And there's a lot of terrorists. It's a lot. But they've realised this as they've gotten on the bus. Yeah, they've known ahead of time. Yeah, plenty of time. Add a few extra snipers and whatnot. Yeah, which if your plan is to take them out, before they can hurt hostages, it's a critical piece of information.

Did they pass that on to the five snipers? No, they did not. No one from the village thought to tell them. And it would have been hard anyway because the snipers didn't even have radios or walkie-talkies to talk to a commander. or to talk to each other and coordinate with who they were aiming for. Oh my God. Just as the helicopters began to land,

the police officers undercover as the flight crew decided that their mission was too dangerous and took a vote to abandon the plane. They worried they were underprepared, undertrained and unpersuasively disguised, having been issued incomplete Lufthansa uniforms. They fled just seconds before the helicopters landed, which I understand why you'd think we're sitting ducks in here. The guy could just throw a grenade and we're all going to die. But it's way too late to change the plan.

As the helicopters land, they all go, no, and they leave the place. So now it's an empty plane. Oh, my God. So now it's all down to the snipers. Now, I say snipers, but they were not, in fact, trained snipers. Because the army wasn't allowed to get involved and use their expert snipers, they had to use police officers who happened to have an interest in competitive. shooting.

An interest. Yes. I've played big buck hunter. Yeah, honestly, they got guys that go hunting on the weekend a bit. That's not the same thing. It is not the same thing. And they didn't have proper equipment either. Instead, forced to use rifles, totally unsuitable for the purpose of targeted and focused

shooting. And they couldn't communicate with each other because they've got no radios. And they won't given specific targets each. They were just told when the first person opens fire, everyone just start shooting. Usually you'd go, I'll take the leader. You'll take this person. Yeah, you'd be able to communicate with each other at the very least. Yeah, but it's just, it's like Big Buck Hunter, basically.

Just have a go. They should be talking into their wrists. Yes. Pulling up to the ear, pushing it in a little bit. Delta, Go for, stuff like that. Stuff like that. Go ahead, Delta. Go for Delta.

Goodrum. Delta, what are you doing here? I'm very good at Big Buck Hunter. Yeah, she's a national champ. Get her in. We got a good Delta. Behind those inner and eyes, awesome. She's seen some things.

So there's four... I was born to try, you were born to die. What a line! That's a good line from Delta. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. So there's four snipers on the control tower and one lying on the ground. But then to add to their woes, the helicopters landed in the wrong spots. What?

This left the ground-based sniper not only useless, but actually in the firing line of the other four. Oh my God. So he had to take cover to avoid being shot himself. because none of them had been supplied with bulletproof vest or steel helmets to protect their heads. And because the helicopters are in the wrong, where the terrorists get out now, he's going to be shot at if he doesn't just lie down and try not to get hit. So now you have four shitty snipers trying to take care of eight heavily armed terrorists. That's two each.

The one who lay down, he was also the best shooter probably. Yeah, of course. Oh, no, a lead guy. Issa and another terrorist left the helicopter to inspect the plane but found it deserted. They yelled back to the rest of the men in the helicopters of the betrayal. They're like, there's no pilot here. It's a setup. And suddenly the airport was lit up by floodlights, and the snipers began shooting.

Well, a few of them did. The guy on the ground was in the wrong spot, didn't fire a single shot. And another of the snipers was moving positions at the crucial time it all started. So he missed his shot on Issa the leader, who made it back to the cover of the helicopters unscathed. So they had a chance to take him out, missed it. He's like, I'm just a bit uncomfy. rest of my I'm just going to move

change positions pins and needles yeah the second sniper seriously wounded Issa's deputy but the rest of Black September

started firing back heavily one of the snipers then shot and killed a terrorist so they were just they were just 30 yards or 27 metres away from their targets

and they only hit two oh I didn't realize how close they are yeah it's quite close wow and they're up on an elevator position but yeah they just

no I can't really hold against the guys they're not trained for this situation. No, no, no. They shouldn't be in this situation. They just didn't have anyone else. The whole thing is just shambles. Absolutely shmaws.

So two taken out, six still shooting. A German policeman was killed standing near the tower when a stray bullet struck him. He's just standing near the tower. Yeah. Sure. The Israeli hostages were all tied together in the helicopters and had to sit there like sitting ducks

whilst the firefurt broke around them. Remember the armored vehicles that was supposed to rush in to protect them? Well, it turns out the police had forgotten to order them. And it was only 20, minutes after the shooting began that they radioed back to Munich for them to be sent, and Munich is already 30 kilometres away. But to make it worse, when German locals heard about the events, because it's a huge news story, thousands got into their cars to have a look at what was

going on. To have a look. So wild, isn't it? Just insane to me, but so many people did this that they completely clogged the roads and the armored rescue vehicles and other police and rescue trucks were stuck in traffic and couldn't get close to the airport. It took another hour for the rescue vehicles to get there. One hour and 20 minutes after the shooting started, but this time most of the fighting was over. Realizing it's a disaster, someone went to the top of the building and tried to negotiate with a terrorist through a speaker system, speaking to them in Arabic, but they replied by opening fire on the building. So they were like, you've screwed us over. Why will we trust you? Yeah, we're not going to trust you. Time magazine writes that a police, quote, special unit,

helicoptered in about an hour after the shooting began, for some reason landed at the far end of the airfield, nearly two kilometres from the action and was never deployed. So wild. After over an hour of fighting, one of the terrorists tried to make a break for it and ended up running towards the fifth sniper, the guy lying on the tarmac that's done nothing. The sniper then fired his only shot to the night, point blank into that man's face. Okay, so he probably was the best shot. Yeah, got him. But then some police who had just arrived on the scene had no idea of the sniper's positions, because no one's been told about any of this, mistook sniper number five, and the helicopter pilot lying beside him had taken cover as terrorists and opened fire on them seriously wounding both

men. Are you fucking kidding me? So yeah, they were able to shoot someone, their own guys. Oh my God. So the plan had gone so horribly wrong. Nothing went right. This is so frustrating. It's so upsetting.

So frustrating. But despite this at midnight, a German spokesperson addressed the media and said, quote, all the Israelis have been saved and all the terrorists are dead. and the police action was described as a success, which was not at all true at that stage. Right. Just issued a false statement.

Either miscommunication or they've got no idea what's going on. They're bluffing. I don't know why, but they just release false information. No one had been saved and only a few terrorists were dead at that point. And tragically, this gave false hope to the hostages loved ones at home who were desperate for any news. And newspapers were immediately printed, especially across Israel, saying all saved. What? All saved.

Because that's what they heard. Why would they do that? Because the German official came out and said that. I don't know. No, but why were the German official? I don't know. Then over the next few hours, new information kept coming to light from the Olympics, saying, we're afraid the information we've given so far as too optimistic.

It just kept getting worse and worse and worse over every hour. Tragically, it did not end anything like that early report. After almost two hours of fighting, one of the Palestinian terrorists threw a hand grenade into one of the helicopters, which was full of fuel and exploded, and all four Israelis on board died. So he just went, fuck this. and killed all the guys. Awful.

At the same time, one of the other terrorists unloaded a full clip from his machine gun into the other helicopter, callously murdering the five men inside. So all of the hostages were killed. Oh, my God. As were all but three of the terrorists,

leaving three who were arrested, Mohammed Safadi, Adnan Al-Gashi, and Jamal-Gashi. But it was a fucking shamozzal. The incompetence is astounding. But the truth is they just were not ready for anything like this. Of course.

reporter Jim McKay, who I mentioned earlier, he delivered a famous line about the event when relaying the final truth, the shocking news. He said, When I was a kid, my father used to say, Our greatest hopes and our worst fears are seldom realized. Our worst fears have been realized tonight. They have now said there are 11 hostages.

Two were killed in their rooms yesterday morning. Nine were killed at the airport tonight. They're all gone. Oh, my God. Awful. So that's how it ended. A ceremony was held at the Olympic Stadium that morning. called by the IOC to demonstrate the Olympic ideal is stronger than terror and violence.

It was attended by 80,000 spectators and 3,000 athletes. And soon afterwards, again, controversially, competition continued. They just did the rest of the games. Bloody hell. Surely, today it's just games over, right? Well, yeah. You'd think, surely. You'd hope so.

How do you keep going? How do you keep going? It's very tricky. Some people would say, hey, we can't let you stop the Olympics, The terrorist win. But yeah, how do you keep doing sport after that? I don't know. The remaining Israel Olympians were sent home on an order by Prime Minister Mir, and they withdrew from the rest of the games and flew home with their dead.

They were all buried in Israel except for the US-born David Berger, whose body was returned to the United States on an Air Force jet personally ordered by President Nixon. Berger is buried at the Mayfield Cemetery in his hometown of Cleveland. The German government allowed the bodies of the dead terrorists to be flown to Libya, where they were welcomed by thousands and buried as heroes. So, yeah, they had a very different perspective on the events, but pretty awful stuff. There were instant changes for the Olympics and governments around the world. Germany, which before this point had no specialist anti-terror unit,

almost immediately created one called the GSG-9 police unit. France, Britain and the US followed with similar forces as part of their police or military. So before, this stuff just didn't really happen. Yeah. At the next Olympics in 1976 in Montreal, they spent 50 times more on security than Munich had spent, and that is only increased over the years. China spent an estimated $6.5 billion on security alone

for the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Wow. In 1984 at the LA Olympics, four sharpshooters were posted on the four corners of a building opposite the pool, and snipers were just scanning through their sights the whole time, 24-7 of the Olympics. Oh, wow, that is scary. Yeah, but it just became...

Just a person... Little flick of the finger. Yeah. Wow. It's one of those things there where it's like, you know, one of those events where the innocence died that day. Yeah. For 40 years, Anki Spitzer, who was widow of Andre Spitzer,

the fencing coach, she petitioned the Olympics to acknowledge the murdered Israelis at subsequent Olympics, pushing for a minute silence. This became a worldwide campaign for London, 2012, 40 years after the massacre. What? They didn't do anything in the next Olympics. And even in 2012, the ISA refused.

Why? Anki Spitzer was quoted in the Guardian at the time saying, The IOC says it's not in the protocol of the opening ceremony to have a commemoration. Well, my husband coming home in a coffin was not in protocol either. This was the blackest page in Olympic history. These 11 athletes were part of the Olympic family. They were not accidental tourists. They should be remembered as part of the Olympic framework.

But Jacques Rogg, you mentioned before, the IOC president said it would be inappropriate. Although the opening ceremony included a memorial for the victims of the London bombings from 2005. I don't... I don't understand what. Surely that would be the thing you do at the very next Olympics. Of course.

Apparently, part of the fight against it was the fear of how other Middle Eastern nations would respond. Jesus Christ. In 1976, when they first pushed for acknowledgement, Anki Spitzer says, they told us very clearly, there are 21 Arab delegations

that will leave if we say something about the Israeli athletes. So I said, let them leave if they can't understand what the Olympics are all about, a connection between people through sport, which, you know, I'm like, I agree with that. On the 3rd of July 2016, just two days prior to the start of the 2016 Summer Olympics, the International Olympic Committee officially honoured the Israelis killed for the first time. And in the 2020 Summer Olympics, which is in 2021, a moment of silence was observed in the opening ceremony, a year before its 50th anniversary, and all of the victims were finally named.

This was the first time in history. This happened in the opening ceremony, but it took 50. Fifty years. Why did they change their minds? It was just a new IAC boss. Oh, I think it's just pressure is built over time. It's like, come on. We have to do very strange. Basically, each time a new Olympics would come around,

a petition would start again and just got more and more and more. Wow. It just feels, I don't, I might be being naive, but it feels like, I don't think any, surely other nations wouldn't be like, wouldn't agree that those people, Athletes didn't deserve to die. No.

Well, you'd think that. But, yeah, and like she said, it's just against the Olympic spirit. Come on. Like you say, I mean, the whole thing is very complex, but I don't think there's anything complex about killing people in cold blood. Yeah. For at an Olympic Games. Yeah.

Or, you know, anywhere, really. Yeah, but it was at the Olympics, so surely the next Olympics, you commemorate them because it happened at the Olympics. Well, what about the three Black September 10th? terrorists that survived and were arrested on the day. You think they'd got to jail forever, right? Well, their story was really only just beginning. That's right.

This is an epic two-part episode. I could keep talking, but we'd be here forever. So instead we'll split it to two. Two forevers. We'll be here for good. On next week's episode, there will be more hijackings, spies, bombings, murder squads, and more, all part of Israel's two-decade quest for vengeance.

That's next week on Do Go On when we talk about, Operation Rath of God. Oh, my God. Yeah, it was just an epic topic. I didn't realize when I first started writing, but I was like, this has got to be in two parts. Wow. Okay.

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all right thanks so much Paul who's given us a question this week so again have not read this so let's put the glasses on here Dave let's some ago so 2020 is the year I turn 50 jeez he looks good Paul bloody hell

geez I would have taken a decade at least off you mate well done 2023 is year I turn 50 and my wife and daughter have asked what I want to do to celebrate i.e is there anything on my bucket list sounds like they're preparing for my death Anyway, I'm toying with the idea of a trip to Australia. We have never been, and it sounds awesome.

So my question to you is, what convincing reasons can I give them to win them over? One reason I was going to give was I wanted to see the Saints play live. But I'm not 100% convinced they'll want us to do this. Thanks for all the great podcasts and all the best for 2023. Cheers, Paul. Paul, if you come over for your 50th, I will go to the game with you for sure. Let us know.

That sounds awesome. I don't, apart from that, Melbourne is pretty quiet. I'd go see a crocodile somewhere up in Northern Territory. Yeah, go see a crocodile. You know, if you're coming to Australia, like Melbourne and Sydney and stuff are pretty much just cities like most... Yeah, but if you come in a sunnier time, that could be appealing to an English family. Oh, yeah, potentially.

I mean, Sydney's beautiful. Yeah, so is Melbourne. Oh, Melbourne's. You know, we just live here? You know, when you go to a new city and, like, the things that you find interesting are that like their crosswalks have a funny sound or whatever. You know, like, I'm sure we've got some stuff here that you're like, huh, that's cute.

Shelbyville's got, you know, yellow fire hydrants. Yeah, exactly. You could go see some koalas. Oh, yeah. You know? I've never seen one in the wild. Haven't you? No.

Oh, you've never lived. Oh, you must. I've seen most of them. I've seen a wombat. Mm-hmm. I've seen an echidna. See a platypus. Most recent wombat I saw was dead on the road.

Made me real sad. Oh, I love a wombat. Yeah, but you should see the other guy. Yeah, that car. is mangled. We can put it at the top of this. Great wildlife. There's cool stuff,

especially overseas people find it fascinating. Yeah. Love it. We've got great animals. Pretty good weather. Great scenery. Great scenery. Drive the Great Ocean Road.

There's, I think, I feel like there's something for everyone. Like, if you're going to go over to Perth, beautiful beaches 24-7. You go to Queensland. Beautiful beaches 24-7 in a different way.

More of a tropical. Yeah, you've got a rainforest and stuff up there. Rainforest up there. The Great Barrier Reef, one of the seven natural wonders of the world. See it before it's bleached. Exactly. Go to Darwin, you know, it just feels like it's an entirely different place.

The weather and everything feels very different. Yeah, come to go see Footy, go see the Saints in Melbourne. Yeah, that's an experience. At the MCG is great. Maybe is a good time to come to Melbourne. Although the weather isn't that nice thing. It depends. It can be all right.

Yeah, comedy festival is a great time to be in Melbourne. Yeah, I feel like there's always something to do, you know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't think we've sold that very well. Could get a job. Yeah, you could come get a job. Then you'd definitely have something to do.

Yeah. Try a pie, Paul. We can give you the stupid old tour. There's the studio. It's very short. It's a short. Yeah, then we'll kick the footy in the car park. It's a very small car park.

It's a very small car. We'll have to go out into the street. The stupid old tour does cost $1,000. So, Paul, I really hope you can come over with the fam. Great. Next up, I'd like to say hello to Peter Atkin, aka Chief Minister for being stressed when trying to trying to give oneself a title for an Australian podcast.

I can imagine that would be stressful. Another question here from Peter. Hey guys, I'm typing this on the 1st of January, so happy new year to you guys. On that note, my question is, what are your new year's resolutions? And as we always ask, Peter has answered the question for himself here. What's Peters? To answer for myself, I normally don't bother because it feels pointless, but I've been accused of being a miserable ass, so this year I've come up with a challenge to why.

watch 100 movies and read 25 books in 2023. Oh. Hopefully this can help me spend my downtime more enjoyable than doom scrolling social media. Thanks for an amazing 2022 of podcasts. And Peter, I'm with you. My resolution, less time on social media. That's a great one. Yeah, I've deleted all the apps off my phone.

For someone who wants to spend less time on social media, you're very bad at social media. Am I? Yeah. When are we bad? You're always like, what's TikTok? I don't know. Oh, yeah. How do I see my messages?

on Instagram. I mean, these trillion-dollar apps, they're always designed so badly. It's like a supermarket. They put the milk at the back. It's the same with apps. Oh, where do you get to the DMs? You've got to go through the freaking reels. That's right.

You've got to go through the reels. 100 movies and 25 books. That's a good effort. That's some really consistent movie watching and reading, you know? That's so many. I think that's a great idea. That's two movies a week. You're still getting your downtime, a bit of mindless stuff, but yeah.

Love that. That's a great call. I would not be able to do it, but I love the idea. My other one was, I sign up for French lessons. Okay. Which I have done. I don't have to do the lessons, but I've now signed up for them. That's good. So you ticked it off.

Yeah, starting in a couple of weeks. Like an in-person class? In-person class. Great. Absolute base introductory level. Of course. Yeah, I'm going to give it a go. Why not?

Ten lessons. First step. Laughing in French. Have a go. Oh, my God. He's going to be top of the class. I'm so proud of you already. That's great. That's a good goal.

So, yeah, something. How about you guys? Anything? I'm so I want to get flexible. Oh, yeah. I'm very inflexible, you know, physically. I mean, you know, socially and morally, very. But no, yeah, I just want to be able to, you know, be a bit more loosey-goosey.

Maybe take up a yoga or something. Calisthenics. Is that something? Yeah. That's a thing. I probably won't be taking that up. No, I just want to take up stretching, basically. Yeah.

Do it. I mean, I stretch every night before bed, as you guys know, and I can now touch my toes, and I love it. That's clever, yeah. I can nearly touch my knees when I'm sitting down. Okay. If you keep doing every night before bed, honestly, in a year's time, and you wake up feeling a bit better, too.

My legs just get sore otherwise. Can I get you two to hold me accountable to this? I'll stretch you every night. Can I get you to, Dave, to help keep me accountable to this? I'm trying to touch my toes by the end of the year. Okay. You've got to go, how are you going with this? You've got to do it.

And if not, I'll put you on the rack and make you do it. Yeah, great. And it'll hurt. Do you need him to message you every night? No, no, just has to check in every night. Okay, I can do that as well. Check in towards the end of the year. What about night, Dave, toes touched, love Matt, every night.

Every night. Is that too much to ask? Well, I won't be that for quite a few months, I don't think. It'll be ankle-stched. Yeah, knees touched. Yeah, that's great. anything just for you? Nothing like yours are good.

Mine are just like, you know, move a bit more consistently and actually have days off. That's my goal. Love it. Have days off. You failed today, but tomorrow is another day. No, it's back to work tomorrow. But that's okay. Hey, there's always a day after that.

Yeah. Which are working. It's working. But then there's Monday. Monday's going to be a day off. Monday. That's your Saturday. It is my Saturday.

Peter, I hope you've started watching movies. You don't want to get to December 31st. You're like, I have to watch 97 movies today. But yeah, that idea, I like that idea. I want to read some books, and I'm reading a book at the moment, and I want to, you know, I'll always watch some movies. But, yeah, I just want to do way less of the doom scrolling. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Just not good for me. I spend too much time on TikTok, less of that. Less of that. Less of that. I would also like to say hello to Susie Darrow from Sacramento. Oh. The capital of California.

Kings reigns. Susie, Sacramento. An existing NBA team. That's right. We acknowledge you. Susie Darrow, giving themselves the title of official dog breed identifier. Oh, I like that's a skill. Was it in this episode that you talked about the dash hound?

It was. Because there's, some people call it a dachshund as well, don't they? Or a sausage dog? Yeah. It's all the same dog. Is that right? There's only one. There's only one of the world.

Probably on this. Three names, one dog. I sit at the park all the time. That's crazy. Wow. Yeah, Ben Russell owns it. I've got a whole bunch of questions this week. This one question is from Susie.

Hi, I love the show. I sent one in a while back that you read out about Matt's laugh, and I really love listening to it. My question is, do any of you three have a non-Australian podcast that you enjoy? I'll give you an answer, as is customary I love, beach too sandy, water too wet. It's an American podcast where two siblings dramatically read ridiculous one-star reviews. It's hilarious and a good distraction just like your show.

Oh, that sounds great. Lots of love sees you. I'm pretty sure my sister-in-law loves this show. That sounds so good. She's read me out a few of the reviews. They are very funny. That sounds so funny. That sounds really, really good. Do you guys have? I'm scrolling through this, nearly all of them are Australian, but I've been listening to Niners Nation podcast, a 49ers fan podcast of it. They do multiple episodes a week. And also, So, a comedian's comedian podcast with Stuart Goldsmith, I listen to on and off, which is, you know, that's just like a long-form chat with a stand-up comedian each week. Conan, I come in and out of. I'm the same with Conan.

I think it's usually, if I know, I know the guest, which probably shouldn't be. It's probably not the best way to consume it. Yeah, I'm in and out of all of these, to be honest. I don't, I'm not, for some reason I think it's because I'm reading a book at the moment. I'm, is when I would normally be listening to podcasts at Null-Up before bed or, and I haven't been running as much as I used to. That's another thing I want to do a bit more exercise this year. It's pretty stock standard.

Yeah. Or like Adam Buxton's podcast where he interviews people. Goes for a ramble. Yeah, I got into a, I'll listen to a bunch of that, not too long ago. I mean, I love the Alan Partridge podcast. Oh, my God, yes. Some of the best. From the oust house.

The oust house. And still loving hardcore history. New one's gone out. I mean, they only go out maybe two episodes a year. Or in 2022, it looks like one episode, one out. Wow. Because he put so much research in. A new one came out this week.

How long are the episodes? The one that came out this week is five hours, 11 minutes. What the f- So he basically writes an audiobook and then reads the audio book, or, you know, riffs an audiobook. And it's interesting that he could just make that a season of five or six episodes. But yeah, he chooses just to do it in one-one. All in one here. long form suits him, I guess.

The first time I listened to it, I was staying at my friend's place outside of Paris, and I'm like, I was jet lag, couldn't quite get back in sync, and I'm like, going to listen to this long history podcast, this will get me into sleep. And the sun came up, and I'm still listening to it. You're still gripped. I'm gripped, but I'm also annoyed at myself that I, because he tells the story so vividly. And, yeah, I've listened that in ages, but it's a great podcast, but yeah. So, love it.

Just anything from you? I do I see stuff? No, I tend to, I'm going through an audio books phase at the moment, so I'm not listening to as many podcasts, and I tend to listen to podcasts on, like, road trips, and I haven't been on any for a little while. So there's stuff that I've listened to ages ago. Like, I loved S-Town, and I like those kind of story, and the kind of, I don't know, like, it's not, it's not overseas.

It is an Australian one, but, like, the stuff like finding, and that kind of investigative, the stuff that's really gripping. You love the Aptity Slide saga. Yes, yeah, a big fan of Ape Tisla, but it is Australians. I couldn't mention it on this one. But I like the idea of those one-star reviews. That sounds up my alley. Oh, hey, I love that movie.

That's a podcast from England about movies they watch when they were kids, and they're just revisiting them and see if they hold up, pretty fun. Oh, yeah, that's good. Oh, I also love Lawman, the show that Matt and I were on. Oh, yeah, that's a good show. Cy guys as well. Yeah, love both those. Very interesting.

I like interesting but funny. Kind of what we're trying to do, yeah, I guess. What we're trying to do, but listen to the shows that achieve it. Lawman and Cy guys. Yeah, I enjoy listening to those week to week. Thanks, Susie. And finally, we got Logan Husky here, president of random things I've learned from TV.

Ooh. Love that, Mr. President. I love the name Logan Husky. you so much. Love that. And Logan's given a quote. Hi, guys, for my FQOQ, I've stumbled across the rare triple header. It is a quote that is both a fact and a question, so it really feels like I'm getting my money's worth here.

From one of my all-time favorite TV shows, The West Wing. Season 1, episode 6. Okay. Mr. Willis of Ohio. During a friendly game of poker, President Bartlett proclaims that, quote, There are three words in the English language and three words only that begin with the letters D.W. Can you name them? Dwight.

Dwayne. Dwindle. Oh, that feels right. For a hint for one of them and a further quote, Witches brew a magic spell in an enchanted forest where fairies dwell. Dwell. Dwindle dwell. And.

Windex. Get it like Windex. That's good. I don't know if it is. Dway. Dwayne. Dwown. Dwarf.

Dwarf. Fantastic. Holy shit. We've got them. Bing, Bing. Dwindle, dwarf, dwell. Thank you so much. And dwound.

I didn't get that in for some reason. I'm dwowning. I'm dwowning here. Oh, help me. I'm dwowing. As always, thanks for a cracking podcast. It is always a great start to the week when I see a new ep pop up in my feed. Can't wait to see a live show up in here in Brisbane in the new year from Logan. She's Logan.

Thank you Logan. I just want to say I got dwindle pretty quickly. A little too quickly. Do you remember that episode of West Wing? I don't remember the poker game. There's a lot of impactful moments in the West Wing though. Very dialogue heavy show, thanks Aaron Sorkin. But to get a fact quite a question in one here. That's impressive though. Fact quite a question are we doing a show in Brisbane in the new year? Maybe. Great. Have we booked that in? No. It may sound like you had tickets already. I'm like, have we booked that in?

I mean, we should do. We should do. And we will do. Hey, the next part of the show is where we like to thank a few more of our fantastic Patreon supporters. We give these people a shout out and usually Jess comes up with a bit of a game. Look, pretty heavy topic. I think let's play it safe and say what Olympic sport they're participating in. Oh, good stuff.

What are they representing their country in? Okay. Can be winter or summer sport. Fantastic. Okay. Sitting in this hot pod studio right now, I'd love a winter sport. Okay. I think my brain's going for snowball fight.

Okay. Well, like, shut up and we'll do it and we'll use that. Don't waste it, you know? Don't waste it. It's not waste, I'll just do it for the first one. Don't waste it. Do you say the name? I'll say snowball fight.

Okay, well, you usually start. Should I? Yeah. Well, I'd love to kick it off. And if I could thank from Ellington in Florida in the United States, it's Joshua Brownle. What sport is Joshua playing, Matt? Luge.

Ah, yes. Luge is fun. Is that... It's a luge champion. The one, like, tobogaining, fast tobogganing. Yeah, lying down. Yes. I love those ones.

Those ones are ridiculous. Dave and I, when we're in the UK, watched a lot of old clips of Roy N.HG on the ice stream. Yes, there's some great stuff on YouTube. And it was Dave initiating their watching of that? I think it was, actually. So, the first night, Matt puts it on, and I'm, I gripped. I've never seen it before.

It's so funny. Because you've been quoting it all day and we're like, oh, let's watch one of the clips. Then night after night, we come back from the gig. It's quite late. We put on a bit of Roy in HG, maybe order a pizza. And we're just watching. They are so funny. So funny.

We change a few algorithms as we traveled around the UK. Yeah, every smart TV has been ruined. But yeah, they had some great ones on the, on the bobsled, especially just talking about. they, basically they jump in. No, that was the luge, I think. Jump on, then they, now you'll see they go to sleep. Now they have to go to sleep till the end, basically. It's just slowing down there.

The one way there's like one lying on top of another person, basically. Yeah, is it like double looge? Yeah, two people. Oh my gosh. Two-man luge. It looks so uncomfortable. But Joshua Brownwell. Or Brownell.

Brownell. How now, Brownow? It's Brownell. It's Weez-out. And I'd also love to think, well, this person address on known can only assume from somewhere deep within the fortress of the moles i'd love to thank brian attie brian attie brian attie is of course gymnast a gymnast specializing in the rings oh yeah love that gosh those guys have the biggest guns yeah i learned the other day that you'll see them like

they go up on the rings and they sort of flatten their hands out yeah and the reason they do that is to show the judges that they're not leaning on their wrist that it is entirely in their, yeah. Wow. That is wild. That is wild. Yeah, it's wild. It's all in their arms.

It's got to be the most Olympic of sports as well, you know, the rings. The Olympics, the rings and they're working on the wrist. What about the gymnastics? You know, when they're doing artistic gymnastics, they've got the rings. Oh, yes. Or that one with the ribbon and they're twirling, it looks like rings. Yeah. That's true.

I'd be really proud of myself. Why was a ribbon-dudeness? I'd love to be able to flutter my way to gold. Yeah, I've given it a crack. Have you? Oh, yeah, of course. You must. Every little girl gets a ribbon at some point.

These days, you know, everyone gets in a, you know, participation award ribbon. Kids are these, bloody does. I'd also love to thank from Hexham in Great Britain, Chris Short. Chris Short is of course fantastic at the Heptathlone. Oh! Which is all six, six, five, eight, seven. Seven events. That's right, isn't it?

Oh my God, I'm really... These are the events. Go through one, please. Seven events, okay. We are looking at... 100 meter hurdles. High jump. Shot put, 200 meter sprint, long jump.

jump, javel and throw, 800 metres. Jack of all trades kind of event. Yeah. Jeez, you said that with a real wet mouth, Dave. And you know I've got a dry throat. Sorry, I'm showing off here. Absolutely rubbing it in. Can I thank some people as well?

Please do. I would love to thank from Cork in Ireland. Colm O'Leary. Colm O'Leary. What are you thinking? When I think Cork, I think the famous Dennis committee commentary line in the AFL, he bobbed up like a cork in the ocean And that just makes me think of triathlon

You got the boy You know that boy bobbing in the ocean They've got to swim around Oh yeah Column Triathlete Triathlet Cool

Triathlete love it I would also love to thank From Corfield North in Victoria Laura Brayshaw Archery Oh How very Robin Hood Yeah

And the thing about Laura Is she won by splitting an arrow. Yeah. Wow. On her knee. Pretty wild stuff. Basically, it was very unsportsman.

Real tantrum. Yeah, yeah. But unfortunately, that was the competitor's only other arrow. So, yeah. Lower one by default. And I would also love to thank, again, from deep within the fortress of the moles, Tiffany Jane. Tiffany Jane.

Tiffany Jane was so good. Jess, all you were about to say, you knew as well as I did. Yeah. It's the snowboarding. Yeah. Love that. Half pipe. Yep.

Or death. That's some flips. Is that the motto? That was, yeah, that's what's written on a board. That's pretty badass. It's very badass. She got it, yeah, got it written underneath. Very sick.

So when she does a cool flip thing, everyone can see that. Yeah, there's slow motion shots of that. That's, that's, hmm, badass. Bad ass. Dave, do you want to thank some people? I would love to thank from Hearn Hill in Victoria. Jess Green. Jess Green.

Great first name. Great last name. What about? Yeah, big fan of that name. Jess Green tearing it up. On the table tennis court. Ping, pong, ping, pong, ping, pong, game set match, Jess Green. Yeah, that's good stuff.

She ponged on. She ponged hard and she ponged right. And she ponged true. Jess green. It's a little early for this, but yes, queen, Jess green. Warming up for the next section of the thing. We've got only just green. Finally, well, not finally, actually.

I'd like to thank from London in Ontario, Canada, I believe this is. From London, eh? That's Brendan Charles. Brendan Charles. BC. No what I mean? Yeah, yeah, BC. What's that skiing where they just go down a really steep hill, a slope, and then they go like, funk.

And they just sort of fly through the air for a bit. Oh, and it's like a sort of distance. Yeah, yeah. Like Eddie the Eagle. Yeah. What's that? I think it was like long jump. Long ski?

Long ski. let me look up Eddie the Eagle ski jumper Is it just ski jumping? According to Google Actually I'm just trying to prove I'm not a robot for a second here Only a robot would want to find out

What Eddie the Eagles event was I think it's It's called ski jumping Yeah Ski jumper Yeah it's a groan And that just that Fung

Yeah and the way that they sprit They spread their skis. It looks so funny. And you can tell they're flexible. Yeah. Because they're like almost horizontal. I mean, yeah, look at this photo. Wild stuff.

They're basically lying down while standing up. I could do that, I reckon. I could do that. So all the flexibility there is sort of in the ankle region. I guess so. They sort of somehow bent their shin. Those hammies have got to be real bendy. And I have got the opposite of that.

I think I would think I'm doing that, but I'd look at it. and it would be a full right angle, my body to the skis. And finally, I'd like to thank from Manchester, this is crazy, Manchester, but in the United States, leaving in New Hampshire, Emily Path.

Emily Path. It's got to be Olympic walking, doesn't it? Yeah, it's got to be, the race walking. Yeah, yeah. God, they look silly. It's all on the hips. All in the hips.

I do that so often. I've never done properly, but I do it so often. It's so fun to do. It's odd just to get the arms moving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doing a bit of the chicken dance going. There's a great rampaging Roy Slavin rant on one of the episodes of The Dream,

where he's saying that an Aussie was ripped off because whoever won gold was cheating. And he had some runners up on the table saying there's always got to be a heel or a toe on the ground. And this is what they're doing. You can see. That's great. That's funny stuff. And Emily PATH getting the gold medal. Thank you so much to Emily, Brendan Jess.

Tiffany, Laura, Colum, Chris, Brian and Joshua. Dave, what's the last thing we need to do? The final thing is to induct anyone that needs to be inducted into the Triptych Club. These people have been supporting the show on the shoutout level or above for three consecutive years, and to enshrine them in glory, we induct them into our clubhouse, our Hall of Fame, our Hangout Zone, exclusive to these people. And we, yeah, we welcome them in.

Just the one this week. Oh, just one? Just one on the list. and Jess usually she's behind the bar. Well, this is disappointing because I was going to put on a real spread. We've got one person coming in. No, everyone else is already in there, remember. They're not allowed to leave. They're not one new person.

One new person. Oh, come on, the people from last week and before that, they're still worthy of your excitement. I don't know if they are. Nah, they are. And this week, I've got a real, a classic German spread of curry worst, snitzel, etc.

Oh, wow, I'm looking forward to that, etc. Big, big fat juices. And big old beers. Oh, yeah. One liter of beer, please. You have to order it like that. You have to come up and say, Hey, Jess, I was wondering if I could please get a big old beer.

Yeah. If you just say, could I get a big beer, please? I'll say, sure, but you won't get big old beer. I could picture you serving out like eight Steins at a time. You know, those tough-armed waiters over in Germany. Yeah. In Bavaria. Yeah.

You could do that easy, right? Easy. Yeah. With my legs. Yeah, yeah. A, with your legs and then, you know, your arms are free for another eight. Yeah, easy, easy, no worries at all. Stines at a time.

16 signs. And Dave, you normally book a band? Oh, you're never going to believe. What have you done? You're never going to believe. Who I've possibly booked. You're never going to believe. You're saying possibly you're not sure they're locked in yet?

Yes, you're never going to believe. I'll believe it. Just say the name and I'll get believing. Obviously is a German topic. You're never going to believe this. You haven't got Ramstein, have you? No, I'm afraid they said no. But you know who didn't say no?

Did they say, no, that would have said, nine. Craft work. Craft work. Holy shit. The craftwork. I'm still working on Ramstein for another week. Great. Oh my God.

That's great. That's great. Craft work. Holy shit, that's exciting. Do do, do, do, do do do do do. Is that them? Do, do, do, do. That's not an I think.

All right. So I've got the clipboard. I'm going to read out one name this week. Oh, my goodness. Dave is on the stage. He's the MC of the night. He's ready to hype them up as they enter the building. Everyone already in.

There's probably, I think, maybe 300 odd people already in. They're going to be chanting along, clapping, cheering. And Jess is going to be tapping Dave's butt to calm him down. Yeah. Are you all ready? Let's rock. Ready. Dave also, just to warn you, Dave does a bit of weeks.

of wordplay work based on their name or their place. It's in, mate, rest your voice, all right? I just don't want them to be like, what just happened? I think it's hard to give me. These people have been a patron for three years. I think they've heard enough of this. How other people are listening to? To know that Dave has always done a great job and will continue to do a great job.

There's some people listening to this since their first episode. And they've listened to this far. Yes. And how, that doesn't mean they know that Dave's about to do it. All right, just read the name. I'm, I've had a good. enough. Okay. All right, here we go. Hit me. Hit me. Here we got. Who we got here?

From Summerland in British Columbia. In Canada, it's Joel Tromblay. I feel like I'm in Jolland. Summerland. Summerland. Yeah. Jolland. Population Dave. I'm tromblaying with excitement. Oh, that's pretty good. Yeah. Are you fucking serious, you went for Joland? I didn't understand it at all. You tromblay me like a pack of cards and I like it. I don't get that one. Play me like a back-cars. Got it.

Okay. Trump play. Well, Joel, sorry about everything. That's pretty good. Perhaps Matt was right. No, don't give in to him. Am I team Matt now? Joel Land.

Joel Land. Did feel like you had a lot to work with there. And that's what he chose. I'm not in a pole position. I'm in Joel position. I think that's better. I don't like to role play. I like to Joel play in the bedroom.

It's getting worse. Let's move on. Getting more personal. Anyway, welcome in Joel. Make yourself. at home. Joel, you are my soul. Grab yourself a brat worst.

Yep. And a big old beer. A big old beer. Enjoy that, Joel. And yeah, that brings us to the end of the episode. Is there anything else we need to tell people, Bopper? That they can suggest a topic. There's a link in the show notes.

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