Do Go On - 379 - The 1972 Munich Olympic Massacre

Episode Date: January 25, 2023

The 1972 Munich Olympics were described as "The Cheerful Games." But the sporting triumphs were overshadowed when halfway through the event, 8 terrorists from a group called Black September broke into the Olympic Village and took 11 members of the Israeli delegation hostage. This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 05:15 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodLive show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our new merch! : https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/  Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:One Day In September (1999)https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0230591/ Everything you need to know about Israel-Palestine - Voxhttps://www.vox.com/2018/11/20/18079996/israel-palestine-conflict-guide-explainer https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/jun/26/munich-olympics-massacre-fight-for-remembrance https://olympics.com/en/olympic-games/munich-1972https://www.britannica.com/event/Munich-1972-Olympic-Games https://www.npr.org/2022/09/04/1116641214/munich-olympics-massacre-hostage-terrorism-israel-germany  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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My name is Dave Warnke and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and this week Matt Stewart. How good is it to be alive? Thanks so much for having me. Well done everyone, we did it. Just making the edit a little difficult here with levels. And scene. Beautiful. Jeez Bob, my man, freaking hell. I'm so sorry that I was. You came in a little hot there. I'm sorry I was really happy that you were on the episode this week. Great to have you here, Matt. When was the last time I missed? I wanted you to feel-

I haven't missed one for ages. I wanted you to feel welcome on Dave and My Podcast. Yeah, great. You're our favourite guest. I have not missed. And you've like immediately come in and had a go at me and you're a guest here. Yeah, sorry. I don't get it.

Actually, you're not my favourite. You're my top two. Top two guest. Top two guest. That's wild. With Cass? Yeah. She's great. I didn. You're my top two. Top two guest. Top two guest? That's wild. With Cass? Yeah. She's great.

I don't even fucking make top two. I'm a co-host. Well, you're not a guest. You're a co-host. Oh, my God. You don't even know the bit you're doing. That's why you're now not on the show. Your energy sucks today.

This is my show. Okay, Jess might not know the bit she's doing, but she does know what this show is, Jess. For people who haven't heard it before. I think we should start again. This is off. Let's start from the top. Here we go.

Dave, do it. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnke and as always, I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hi, Dave. Hey, Dave. How's it going? So good to be here. Jess, you're looking fantastic, Dave.

You're looking pretty good as well. Thanks. And how good is it to be alive? I can't believe I'm in the room with two cutie patooties you know what no no no no no Matt because when you said like Jess you're looking good I was like here we go reducing me to just my looks as you know society does but then you said to Dave and I was like okay it's equality and then you said it's good to be alive and I was like well actually it is pretty good to be alive and then you said today, but I was like, okay, it's equality. And then you said it's good to be alive. And I was like, well, actually, it is pretty good to be alive.

And then you said it's good to be in the room with two cutie patooties. And I was like, he's won me. He's got me back. Okay. He's got me back. All right. Because, yeah. Are you sure we shouldn't start again?

No, I think that's fine. I don't feel good about that. So, I'll explain how the show works. Beautiful. Please. Well, what we do is one of the three of us takes a topic, usually suggested to us by the listeners. We research that topic.

We bring it back to the other two. We tell them all about it and they listen politely. They, you know, they encourage us along the way. They are the wind beneath our wings. This week it is Dave Warnke's turn to present to Matt and I a topic. So you are both the wind beneath my wings this week. Yeah, I'm your left wing. I'm your right wing.

Thank you, wing. Get out of my country. Yeah, I worry that this little ironic intro we do each week where we say we don't interrupt, there's people who come in and they go, oh, fantastic, finally one of those podcasts where they don't interrupt. I'm sick of hearing three friends they go, oh, fantastic. Fantastic. Finally, one of those podcasts where they don't interrupt. I'm sick of hearing three friends have a nice time together.

I just want cold hard facts. And let me just say to you right now, because Matt and Dave are too polite to say this to you, but I'm a bad bitch and I don't care. Hey, hey, you. Yep. Sometimes not every podcast is for you and that's okay. Get out of our country.

The country of Dugo 1. Yes. We're a micronation. Dave, we usually get on topic with a question. What is your question? My question to both of you is which Olympics is best remembered for a tragic event that has nothing to do with sport? Oh, it's Munich.

Oh, Munich. Matt got in just there. Will we go back to the clock, correct. I was actually just letting you finish a sentence. Not me. Not me. If I do that, because my problem is if I let people finish a sentence when I go to talk, the next sentence is halfway through.

So I really have to go in. You've got to get in early. Sort of when it sounds like you're halfway through a sentence, I get in and hope that that times out that you've finished the sentence when I'm talking. Yeah, Munich. What year was that? 1972. 1972, Munich Olympics.

That's right. That's what we're going to be talking about here today. Do you know much about that Games or the tragedy? I know that Eric Banner was in a movie, but I haven't seen it. 100% what I was going to say. I know the Eric Banner was in a movie, but I haven't seen it. 100% what I was going to say. I know the Eric Banner film that I also haven't seen. I know very, very minimal, in fact, pretty much nothing, which is bad, isn't it?

No, let me educate you, so to speak. Great. This topic's been suggested by a few people and voted for by our Patreon supporters. Really appreciate them choosing this topic. It's an epic, but I think they chose a very interesting story. And thank you to Megan Reif from Shippensburg, Pennsylvania, Kelly Trey from Vancouver, and Xavier Zayas from Rochester.

Xavier Zayas. Yeah, incredible name. Holy shit, that's a great name. Where's Rochester? I'm not sure if it's the Victorian country town or maybe in England. Yeah, it sounds like it. It's the original Rochester, but it doesn't say. Xavier, wherever you are, thank you so much to you, Kelly,

and Megan for suggesting this topic. So let's jump in. So the Games of the 20th Olympiad were held in Munich in West Germany from the 26th of August to the 11th of September 1972. Two important dates on everyone's calendar. That's right. Just 18 years before the birth of Jess Bott-Perkins. Yeah.

God. What it would have been like to live in a world before me. You were like a reverse adult that year. Wow. If you think about it. If you think about it in a pretty odd way, that's true. Your fetus could have got like a reverse driver's license that year. If you think about it.

If you think about it. And it does make you think. I've never lived in a world without Jess Perkins. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. But you've both lived in a world without me. Yeah. Best two days of my life.

Best centuries of my life. It's been a real grind these last 30-odd years. Dave, maybe one day you will have to live in a world with no Jess Perkins, and I just want you to prepare yourself for that. I hope not. Are you going to live on the moon? I didn't know how to bring this up to you guys, but we are going to have to do this remotely for a while

because I am moving to the moon. First podcast from the moon. Let's do it. I'm doing a moon change. So Munich was the second time Germany hosted the Olympics, which it previously held in 1936 under the Nazi regime. The 36 games were really used by Hitler as a propaganda tool for his regime. There's a lot of controversy before the games,

whether countries thought, you know, they're wondering, should we compete over there or not? And in the intervening years, Germany had, of course, gone to war against the world for World War II, and Nazis committed the atrocities of the Holocaust. Because of this still recent history, the West German government had been eager to have the Munich Olympics present a democratic and optimistic

new Germany to the world. Yeah. Sorry about that. We're cool now. Yeah. Everything's fine. We're okay now. The game's official motto was Die Hettian Spiel or The Cheerful Games.

That's nice. The problem is they've got die in there. Yeah. German's not a cheerful language. Yeah. What is a cheerful language? Not French. It's sexy. Yeah french it's sexy yeah that's so sexy what's chief irish irish is pretty cheerful it can be quite melancholic though irish the language the people the land okay i don't know i don't know what's a cheerful

language it was also known as the games of peace and Joy. Oh. That's nice. So basically, it was a way for West Germany to paint itself in a different light on one of the world's biggest stages as it invited the world to come back to Germany. But the Guardian writes, quote, It was never going to be easy to forget the recent past. The Olympic Park had been built just six miles from the Dachau concentration camp on the site of the Ober-Weissenfeld Airport.

So that's, you know, looming over everyone the whole time. To continue the quote, after the war, the area had been used to dump 10 million cubic meters of debris created by the Allied bombing of Munich. You can see there is a great deal that we are trying to bury, finally and forever, with the Games of 1972, a member of the organizing committee told the Guardians, Peter Harvey, before the opening ceremony, we so much want these games to be full of peace and sport and nothing else. Can you be full of peace?

Oh, yeah. Oh, up to here. I kind of feel like peace is a little bit of like a base level. And then if you're trying to be full of peace, you're being like overly nice. I love going out and getting peaced. Peaced off my tits. Just up to the eyeballs. It's been I love going out and getting peaced. Peaced off my tits. Just up to the eyeballs. It's been ages since I've been completely peaced.

You should try it again. Loosen up a bit. Get a bit of peace in you. I'm peacing right now. What? Dave, that's inappropriate, mate. We're at work. We're at work?

You've really got to stop that. Dave? Dave? Dave. Try and sober up with a bit of hate. We're at work. You've really got to stop that. Dave? Dave! Dave. Try and sober up with a bit of hate. We're not mad. We're just disappointed. Yeah. That's worse. You know, in Germany they actually call it Munchen,

which I think is far superior to Munich. It always is. Beautiful. I love it. Deutschland, Munchen. Why aren't we all saying this? I don't get it. Nor do I. It's strange. It's very strange. We have English names for everything. Yeah. I don't know. München. So good. Oh my god.

It's great. Love it. I think it's got an umlaut involved somewhere. What a delight. We will continue to call it Munich though. Yeah, of course. I don't want to sound like wankers. So I was just in München. I think because I was trying to bring that up like a wank of course. I don't want to sound like wankers. So I was just in Munchen. I think because I was trying to spring that up like a wanker, but I didn't quite do it enough, so I just sound like I'm a genuine wanker.

And did you know that Munich actually needed to lean in a bit harder? So it actually took me a few minutes to work out what you were talking about because I actually know it as Munchen. See, he nailed it. it yeah but it's much more natural today yeah there's a level of wank i love to wank so to speak dave i don't know if you know what you've just admitted to you turned the microphones on so they're they're pumping the games up as being full of peace sport and nothing else which i mean you could probably do this

with any tragedy event and look back, but it really put the moz on there, it feels like, a little bit there. To betray the image of peace, friendliness, and openness, the organisers had deliberately light security. This was partly in response to the 1968 games in Mexico where the government massacred hundreds of unarmed students who were protesting the games just 10 days before the opening ceremony. I did not know that.

Yeah, that was a very big... What? How did the Olympics survive these sort of things? How do you then four years later back up again and go, well, let's play some sport. Let's see who can run fast. Yeah, wild. Well, keep that thought for these Games as well.

Both the Olympics and the country wanted to portray a completely different side, so at Munich, not a single police officer or soldier was seen inside the Olympic venues or village. They deliberately said, no soldiers, no police. Instead, they were guarded by a small and unarmed force clad in light blue uniforms. The colour chosen when an opinion poll found that it was the most unpolitical of hues. Oh, yeah, the light blue. It's a gentle colour, yeah. The colour chosen when an opinion poll found that it was the most unpolitical of hues.

Oh, yeah. It's a gentle colour. The baby blue. They wanted to be gentle. But, yeah, no police, no soldiers on site. Did they get the same crew that looked after Woodstock? The same sort of peace patrol? They could have got the peace patrol in there.

Yeah. I mean, they hadn't existed yet from Woodstock 99, but still. Did they think of that? Is this some sort of archetypal peace patrol? Well, I mean, they hadn't existed yet from Woodstock 99, but still. Did they think of that? Is this some sort of archetypal peace patrol? Get them, send them back in time, dress them as Smurfs. You're ready to go. The Games featured the first official Olympic mascot, Waldie the Dash Hound, designed by Otal Eicher.

Waldie. Waldie. That's not a name. The dog- Point of order. That's not a name. Waldie. That's not a name. The dog. Point of order. That's not a name. Waldie. Objection.

The dog represented the attributes required for athletes, resistance, tenacity, and agility. Yeah, that's a dash hound right there. And the ability to roll over. Sit. Good boy. The marathon route for the Olympics was created to resemble Waldie. The head of the dog faced west with athletes running counterclockwise. Matt and Jess are looking at a picture of it now.

The belly was the main downtown street in Munich, and its rear end and tail were all in the English Garden, which is a parkland extending along the Isar River. That's cute. So at one stage you could say, I'm running through the dog's arsehole right now. That's nice. At one point you could say that. And I did. And'm running through the dog's arsehole right now. That's nice. At one point you could say that.

And I did. And I've reached the dog's arsehole, which means only a mile to go. Because I turned left at the arsehole. I like that design. It's a cute dog. Archery returned to the games for the first time since 1920 with events for both men and women. Slalom canoeing was also held for the first time at the 1972 Olympics. But I thought before we get to the tragedy,

these are some of the sporting highlights of the Games, which have been probably rightfully so overshadowed by history, but still there were some triumphs and fun stuff. So if you're a gold medalist from that Olympics, you're probably a bit like, fuck. Yeah, including one of the most famous ones ever, 22-year-old mustachioed American swimmer Mark Spitz was one of the stars of the 72 Olympics.

Spitz had brashly predicted that he would win six gold medals at the previous 1962 Olympics. And before he jumped in, he pointed at the other end of the pool, Babe Ruth style, and said, I'm going to swim down there. I'm going to swim this one out of the park. Did you say the previous 1962? 1968, rather, if I did misspeak. It's the 1968. There you go. I don't know why I'm going to swim this one out of the park. Did you say the previous 1962? 1968, rather, if I did misspeak. It's the 1968.

There you go. I don't know why I'm going there. The Mexico City Games. He said, I'm going to win six golds. Watch me. That is, that's a lot. It's a bit like, have you ever played the game 500? When you've got to really back yourself.

Ten tricks. No trumps. Mazair, fuck you. Okay, so you have played 500 with my dad. That's how he plays. Mazair, fuck you. Okay, so you have played 500 with my dad. That's how he plays. Mazair, fuck you. Don't ever play 500 with my dad. Anyway, yeah, it feels like that.

Four years out, you're going at six. Easy. Watch me. On the record. So at the previous games, he said at this Olympics, I win six, right? Oh, okay. And whilst he did take home two gold medals for the realest, which most people, you'd be very proud of yourself.

So embarrassing. He performed well below expectations in his individual races. He was third in the 100 metre freestyle, second in the 100 metre butterfly and last in the final of the 200 metre butterfly. I haven't seen the races, but I know what's gone wrong. The moustache. Too much drag. Yeah.

Huge moustache. How many Olympic swimmers do you see with a beard or a mustache? None. They are shaved. You've got to get the dome. Michael Clem had a down pat. They're shaved from top to bottom. Yeah.

Certainly no mustache. That drag could cost you seconds, and that's a long time in a pool. It's a long time in the pool. Yeah. Or it might get trapped in the filter, and you'll drown. Worst case scenario. Why do they have that little pool spider thing on during the race? Sponsored by Gillette.

Start shaving him in the pool. Sorry. It was disappointing. It was embarrassing for him, to be honest, because he said he'd win 61 too. Don't say that. I know, dude. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, he came back with a vengeance and went on to set a world record when in eight days he won seven gold medals.

Whoa! All in world record time. And did he make any predictions here this time? No, he kept it a bit quiet this time. He won every event he entered, which included the 200 metre butterfly, the 4x1 freestyle relay, 200 freestyle, 100 butterfly, 4x200 freestyle relay, 100 metre freestyle and the 4x100 medley relay.

Wow. I mean, he's doing a lot of relays, which, I mean, you know, you're as strong as your weakest part or whatever, but it feels like other people are doing some of the work there too, you know? Yeah, okay. Just saying. But then he was world record breaking solo once too. In all of them, yeah.

That's amazing. So he won four individual. Fellow American swimmer Michael Phelps eventually broke this record on 2008 when he won eight gold medals in a single Olympics. Phelpsy. If you think Phelpsy in one word, what would it be? Hairy. Okay.

I was thinking Shvelt or hairless. No, that's not what I get. I think big old hairy boy. I don't think the man has a hair on his body. I think yeti. The word I was going to say was stingers. Peter Phelps. Phelps, yeah.

When I hear Phelps, I think Peter. Sorry we didn't really know where you were going with that. Sorry. So Spitz retired after the Games aged just 22. Retiring at 22. I'm done. The dream. Spitz did. So his big prediction was like- Retiring at 22. I'm done. The dream. Spitz did.

So his big prediction was when he was 18. Yeah. He nailed it. He absolutely nailed it. And through lucrative- Because remember at the time, Olympic stuff is like for non-professionals. Yes.

Through lucrative sponsorships, after he retired, he made an estimated $7 million in the 70s. Yeah. Cornflakes packets. Yeah. He cleaned up. He was a superstar in America at the time. Cornflakes, packets. Yeah, he cleaned up. He was a superstar in America at the time.

And you're just done for the rest of your life. You can just travel and- Yeah, I think he's like some sort of businessman to this day. Of course he is because he's an Olympian. And elite sports people are built differently to us common folk. And he could never just enjoy that and retire and just live a nice life. They've got to be like, well, I've got to be the best at something else. And good on you, but I don't have that in me.

Let me tell you about another one. Is that why you pulled out of the Olympics? Yeah. I was like, you know what? I don't care that much. But he's got to do something by the same token. No. Retire at 22.

Enjoy your life. But it was a volunteer sport or whatever. Volunteer? Amateur? Amateur. I guess most sports are volunteer. Yeah, but he'd made a shit ton of cash. In the 1936 Olympics, probably there were some Germans competing against their will,

maybe. Maybe. So you're saying he has to go get a job just so that he can add it to his CV, even though he's made enough money to just enjoy his life. Oh, no, well, I mean, he hasn't made enough money. That $7 dollars was as a businessman no no no it was as through sponsorships in the two years after retiring what do you think their sponsorships ago that he's that's business being the a brand ambassador are you looking down

your nose on the brand ambassador matt's trying to be an influencer yeah trying uh if you want me to take a photo for Instagram with your product, just send me an email. I'd love you to send me like a box of Omo or something. I will do it. For a price. For a price. But I wash my tidy whities.

Sorry. The other star of the pool was Australia's own Shane Gould. Shane Gould. At the age of 15, she was already feared by her opponents. Her Olympic bio writes. Because she always swam with a knife. Again, slowing her down, but very scary. She said it would cut through the water.

She held it above her head like a shark fin. Very intimidating person. It's easy to win when you've killed the rest of the field. This is what her Olympic bio writes Her official bio Shane Gould was just 15 years old when she competed in the 1972 Games However, her reputation was already so fearsome That swimmers from the United States tried to build their own confidence By wearing t-shirts that read

All that glitters is not Gould Does that not just make it so clear that she's in your heads already? This child? She's 15 years old. This child with a knife. That actually kind of makes it seem like you're a fan. You're wearing merch. All that glitters is not gould.

I don't get that. Yeah, that would have pumped me up if the other team were wearing things saying- Would be like, thank you so much. All that glitters does not stew. I'd be like, I don't get it, but I love it. I love it. Thank you so much. Thank you.

It means a lot. Always nice to meet a fan. They'll write a few here because Gould won three gold medals, but all that Glitters is not Gould because she also won a silver and a bronze, all in individual freestyle and medley events. She also set world records in each race she won. Wow. Even when she came second and third. Oh, no, you said each race she won. Wow. Even when she came second and third.

Oh, no, you said each one she won. Yeah. Edit that bit out. She is the only person, male or female, to hold every world freestyle record from 100 metres to 1,500 metres and the 200 metre individual medley world record simultaneously, which she did from the 12th of December 1971 to the 1st of September 1972. Wow.

She's also the first swimmer, male or female, to win Olympic medals in five individual events in a single Olympics. So cop that, Spitz. Yeah, cop that, Spitzy. Why are you saying male or female? Just say swimmer. You're complicating it to make it less complicated, Dave. Reading out these stats from the Olympic official website.

Yeah, exactly. That's who I'm talking to then. Pass it over. I'm going to put your computer in the Olympic official website. Yeah, exactly. That's who I'm talking to then. Pass it over. I'm going to put your computer in the bin. Hand it over. Come on. Over here, please. No, put stuff on there.

You can just say swimmer, male or female. You're not adding anything there. Human or not. Human or not. Actually, no. Well, to be honest, some dolphins are faster than her. Okay. But they can't do, for example, backstroke.

So, fuck them. Human or other primate. Show me a whale. I'm pretty sure we've got the chimps in the pool. We've got the chimps in the pool. I don't know. Have we ever put a chimp in a pool? I don't think I could beat a chimp in a pool.

I am a slow swimmer. Should we go get some chimps and put them in a pool? See what happens? I don't think that's cruel at all. Let's do it. I think it's cool. Throw them in and see what happens. Look at them go.

They've invented a new stroke. What's it called? Chimp crawl. Chimp crawl. They're not very creative with names. They named it. They're chimps. That's actually.

And we interpreted that as chimp crawl. Anyway, Dave, please do go on. Gould also retired young at the age of 16. Retired at 16. After the Olympics, she went, I'm done. Honestly, and I heard she regretted it. She's like, I held on too long. I should have quit my PQ.

I should have just enjoyed my life. I was really great at 13. That is ridiculous. You're right, Jess. Olympians aren't like normal people because you've got to win something. She wasn't done winning. In the 2000s she returned to the pool swimming Masters events for older athletes

and set more world records in her own age category by that time she was 23 i'm old back on the seniors and in 2018 gould won the fifth season of australian survivor becoming the oldest winner of any survivor franchise ever in the world she's a badass what a badass and her name is sh, which I think already is badass. I think part of my sort of sporting goals in my life is Masters Games. Okay, yeah. And it's handicapped too because, like, you know, you put a 70-year-old and a 101-year-old in the same running race.

Oh. So I reckon – but imagine if you're like, all right, well, I was always an average sports person, but now I'm going to go for the Masters, see if I can get a medal. Shane Gould is competing. Fuck off, Shane Gould. You'd be so annoyed. You're like, oh, I'll come back next time.

I'll probably live another four years. Shane Gould is here. Shane Gould is here. Great. Fantastic. You go on Survivor and you're like, Shane Gould is here. For God's sake. God.

Come on. And then one of the final challenges, swim to that island over there. Fuck off, Shane. You're right. You've just gone in at the local RSL Chook Lotto. And Shane Gould will go to it. She's so lucky. Just give her the meat tray.

Putting down her sporting achievements to luck is very funny. I should probably wear this too. She's so lucky. She fell in the pool and she knew what to do more than anyone else. Ridiculous. So lucky. Now, the most controversial sporting moment from the games occurred during the final for the men's basketball,

and it has been called the most controversial basketball game ever. I don't know. You won at my under-12s grand final. Sorry, the second most. It got pretty violent. For real? No. I'm a lover, not a fighter.

Your teammates are the other hand. Also, nobody would ever take me on because I grew fast and I was always much taller or much bigger than the other girls and if they ran into me, they fell down. Not the other way around. That's how you got the nickname Bop, isn't it? You just bopped them on the head. Bop, bop.

Bop. I thought you also played with a knife. I did play with a knife. In your teeth. Yeah. Growling. Yeah, I growled the whole time too. Very unpleasant child.

But a beautiful free throw. Beautiful free throw. You know, just read the game beautifully. She's a great basketball mind. So this basketball final has actually been suggested as its own topic in its own right by Dave Maraseski. Thanks so much for the suggestion, Dave. It was Team USA versus the Soviet Union.

And remember, this was peak Cold War. And on the Olympic basketball court, the American men had never lost, ever. Every match they'd ever played. It's about time. Who's lining up? Any of the greats? This is still during the amateur era, I believe. Most of these men went on to play in the NBA,

but at the time they were all sort of amateur college guys, very young. And since the first Olympic basketball tournament at the 1936 Olympics in Berlin, the Americans had not lost a single game, winning seven consecutive medals in complete domination. Wow. Which makes sense. They invented the game. I think it was a Canadian person.

I mean the American continent. Yeah, right. But the Canadians don't do a great job. They don't do a great job. Not that Canada. Yeah, right. But the Canadians don't do a great job. They don't do a great job. Not that Canada. Yeah, wow. But I think early days in a new sport, it makes sense. But now that it's been around for quite a while,

it makes sense that a lot of other countries have overtaken America at basketball. Yeah. Similar like all the English sports that they invented that now Australia are better at. Yeah, we're better at it. Some of the time. Imagine if we played America in Aussie rules football.

Exactly. I'm not even being cocky here. We would kick their little tushies. Honestly. We would destroy. We would wipe the floor with them. With their little tushies. There's only one Tony Lockett, and he doesn't play for another country.

Exactly. We're bringing him out of retirement. Yeah. Plug his back. I've looked it up. James Naismith, born, he's a basketball inventor, Canadian-American. Okay.

Born in Canada, worked in America, I believe. And invented the game in? 19, 1891. 1891. Wow. In Springfield, Massachusetts. Okay. America.

America. America. Claimed. The U.S. of A, Massachusetts. Okay. America. America. America. Claimed. The US of A, and that A is America, Dave. Gotcha. And since that moment, they absolutely dominated. Since the 1952 tournament, the Soviet team challenged the Americans,

winning silver in 52, 56, 60, 64, and bronze in 68. So they were hot on the heels. They're clearly the number two seed. Yeah, clearly second best. The Michael Chang of basketball, if you will. Top two, baby. Top two. The Soviets were a much older and more experienced team and had not lost a single game on the way to the 72 final.

I think at the Olympics it's good to be older. They're a master's team. The Soviet team were all in their mid-40s to early 50s. A lot of experience. Yeah, and a lot of fake hips and knees. Oh, another blowout. Yeah. The gold medal game began at 11.45 p.m. local time.

Why? To accommodate a primetime broadcast in the United States. Oh, my God. Do you love the Olympics? Gosh, of course. It's all of- The friendly games. They were peaceful games.

Yeah, but we've also got to make sure America can watch. 11.45 p.m. Start time. No, that's way past bedtime. Why? Especially for these older geriatric Russians. Well, the Australian opens on at the moment, the tennis, and that seems to happen a bit sometimes.

Like the big game, the primetime game at night, sometimes they go to like 2 a.m. or something. Oh, yeah, because often it's like there's only one centre court and the main match has to wait for the match before it to finish. And if that goes to five sets, you're starting at 11.15. Yeah, which is pretty wild. I kind of like that. I love sport in the middle of the night for some reason.

I like it too, especially on a hot Aussie night when you're like, it's too hot to sleep. I'll just sit on the couch and doze and sip water. Watch Rafa. See what he can do. See Medvedev yell at the crowd and the crowd yell back. Tennis. What a sport.

What a sport. People laugh because- Laugh at nothing. The ball boy pretends to play guitar. The ball boy's Legionnaires hat flew off in the wind. Better call a halftime break because it's so funny. That's going to make the news. So the older USSR team, I say old, I think they're like mid-20s.

Oh, my God. And there's some people saying they're pretty professional. They're playing a pretty amateur team in America. But the older USSR team dominated early and got off to a hot start. With 10 minutes left, the Soviets had a 10-point lead. Whoa. The Americans, however, caught up and trailed 48 to 49. So one point with only seconds left until Doug Collins, an American, was fouled.

He made two free throws to put the Americans ahead 50 to 49. This is the final score. Yeah. Up by one point. Were they shorter games back then? Maybe they are shorter. It seems like quite a low scoring game. It is pretty low. But also this is before three point. Right. Okay, of course. Three points were included.

So three seconds left. That's all I shoot. Yeah. You were useless. Scoring useless two-pointers. Still get points. So 50 to 49, they're one in front with three seconds left. The New York Times writes, those three seconds would be re-examined for years to come. So that means that the Soviets get to inbound the ball.

We get to throw the ball back in from one side, the opposite end of their goal, hoping to somehow get it back into play and into the basket up the other end of the court before the buzzer sounds three seconds later. If they do, they will win by one point because they'll get two points. The three-point line wasn't added to the Olympics until 1988. Right.

Really? Yeah. That's right. When was it added for the NBA? NBA, I think it was a few years earlier, but it was still the 80s. Wow. I didn't know that. And the rule, you're the basketball here, Bob.

Yes. Is the rule, and has it always been, that the clock doesn't start until someone's taking possession? It's not like it doesn't start when it's thrown in. That's when someone, I've seen a few clips recently in the NBA where someone would just be standing over the ball rolling so the clock isn't starting and the defense isn't coming up. It's kind of a strange loophole thing.

Oh. But is it – maybe it's – I mean, they're going to be way more technical about it in the Olympics, of course, so I'm not 100% sure, actually. I would have – like playing here would be like as soon as the ball's passed in. Right. Because, you know like um three seconds that changes a lot that's not a lot of time to get the ball all the way down but if if the pass

you know is going halfway down the court and the clock doesn't start until it's cool you're a lot closer to the goal yeah yeah you'll see it sometimes the nba as well they need a three pointer to win and the pass will there's, less than a second on the clock. The pass will – yeah. So the pass can, you know, be in the air for a second. Woo! And then the catch and shoot straight up. That's when it goes into slow-mo in the movie.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But you don't know what – I'm not 100% sure. I think the clock is supposed to start straight away, I believe, from these recounts. So the ball gets thrown in, but the Soviets immediately call a timeout. But to quote from the Washington Post to explain why this is controversial,

an international amateur basketball federation, FIBA rule at the time, didn't allow for a timeout to be called after a second free throw, which is what the Americans have just done. So the Soviets had to rush the ball across the court, and as a Soviet player dribbled the ball at half court, it looked as if the Americans would win the game. But the Soviet coaches complained that a timeout they had called between Collins' free throws hadn't been granted, and as they disrupted the scorer's table, a referee stopped the

action with just one second left. Whoa. Because they came on to protest, and then the referee went, what's going on? Stop the clock. Whoa. Whew. At that point, Renato William Jones, great name, the British head and co-founder of FIBA,

ordered the clock reset to three seconds, despite the game being interrupted with only one second left on the clock. He said, take it again. This sounds like a mess. So he let the Soviets have a do-over with the full three seconds. They got to throw the ball back in. He said, it's too confusing. Take the ball back up there again from the washington post so the soviets again inbounded the ball again from under their own basket but failed to score

as time expired it's all over abc commentator frank gifford yelled as the american players rushed the court in celebration they think they've won a gold medal wow what a finish the united states winning their eighth consecutive gold medal. This is what Frank Gifford's yelling. The final score of 50 to the USA to 49 for the USSR flashed across the screen. Woo, they've done it. Then a more subdued Gifford came back on the mark and said,

now we're being told the scoreboard is not correct. Oh, no way. So William Jones, the head of international basketball, emerged from the stands to rule that the Soviet team should get a third chance to inbound the ball. Wait, what? Why?

Because the scoreboard operator had neglected to reset the clock and it accidentally said 50 seconds instead of three seconds. So it didn't count down from three. It counted down from 50. Wait, so they didn't get the score anyway. Three seconds is three seconds, right? Yeah. That doesn't make any sense. So the score wasn't wrong. The clock was't get the score anyway. Three seconds is three seconds, right? Yeah. That doesn't make any sense.

So the score wasn't wrong. The clock was wrong on the scoreboard. I thought you were going to say that they were actually leading by that point. No, no, no. So they run out of time with one point ahead, but then the guy from FIBA came back on and said, sorry, there's been a problem. This is starting to feel like money's on the Soviets.

This is from the New York Times. Let's give them one more chance. Let's give them one more go. And, America, if you could not be on the court, please, if you could all sit down. We're subbing out the Team USA for the Washington Generals. It's like when you're playing, like, you know, baseball or something at a family game and there's, like, a six-year-old playing

and they get struck out. No, no, no, give them another go. Give them another pitch could lob it up lob it up for him uh you can't go out first ball or second ball you can't no no no you can't get i think that hit the ground one more time come on give johnny a go so this time from the new york times there's so many articles and especially by american publications on this. The Americans who were coached by Henry Eber were furious and threatened to leave the court. Amid the chaos, a pickpocket

What? This is serious. A pickpocket filched Coach Eber's wallet. What? And then the New York Times says in brackets yes, someone really stole his wallet. That's how chaotic it was out there. Is that my wallet, Jason?

But the Americans were told if they didn't get back onto the court and play, then they would be disqualified and forfeit the match. What? So they went back out. They're like, all right, we're guaranteed to lose if we don't go out. We'll just have to win it again. We'll try and beat them again. Yeah.

Freaking hell. They still only have three seconds. Three seconds for the third time. The Soviets had a third inbound from Soviet player Ivan Adeshko. He was guarded by the huge 6'11 Tom McMillan, who was there to do anything in his power from letting the ball get past, but then another controversial incident happened. What was his nickname?

Tiny Tom? Tiny Tom? Tiny Tom, yeah, tiny. Tom McMillan recalled, the six-foot guy himself. There was a referee pointing at my legs and he was Romanian. He didn't speak English. Under international rules, as long as the inbounding player, who's throwing it in, can back up, you don't have to get off the line. It's his responsibility to back up if he wants more room.

So Tom's right there trying to block him throwing it in. But back to Tom, but the referee's pointing at my feet. I'm behind the line it's his responsibility to back up if he wants more room so tom's right there trying to block him throwing it in but back to tom but the referee's pointing at my feet i'm behind the line i'm not breaking a rule why is he pointing at my feet i thought he was telling me to get off the line and the last thing i want to do is get called for a technical foul at that point and that's why i backed off so he takes a couple of steps backwards because this guy's yelling at him in romanian so he backed off giving edesco space to make a perfect Hail Mary pass to Soviet forward Alexander Belov. With two players guarding him, Belov jumped,

then made an uncontested game-winning layup. Wow. He had time to do a layup. Yeah. So it got thrown straight to him. It's a great pass, incredible pass, and he's able to grab it and just go boop, boop, bang. It's a great pass, incredible pass, and he's able to grab it and just go boop, boop, bang. It's a full court pass.

Yep. Wow. Chaos ensued. Everyone rushed the court. The Soviets were declared the winners. Again, from a possibly biased Washington Post, I should say, the Americans protested, but the jury was stacked against them in another Cold War timepiece.

The vote was 3-2, with judges from communist bloc nations hungary poland and cuba voting against the american appeal and those from italy and puerto rico dissenting so the soviets were given the gold medal this is a desco the soviet player who made the game-winning pass later said it was the cold war americans out of their own natural pride and love of country didn't want to lose and admit loss they They didn't want to lose in anything, especially basketball. The US team refused to accept their silver medals, and 50 years later, the International Olympic Committee still has those medals.

They've never gone and got them. Tom McMillan said those medals are going to be in Lausanne, Switzerland for 1,000 years. One player, Kenny Davis, said in 2012 that he had even added a clause to his will barring any of his family members from posthumously accepting it on his behalf. I love that. I love that kind of bitterness.

That is so petty. Yeah. Even I know, you know, my great-granddaughter might desperately need the money. She cannot have it. No, do not let her have it. Not even over my dead body. I would rather her starve.

That does sound like they were absolutely ripped off. Yeah. Based on your retelling there. Yes. I think it is seen, like I said, it's the most controversial basketball game. Wow. And, yeah, the Americans' perfect record was broken.

Over in Russia, they still hang on to the victory. In 2017, a film called Going Vertical was released. Most Vertical Primate. Sounds like that. Was released based around the 1972 Olympic final and it became the highest grossing modern Russian film of all time. Wow.

When was this released? 2017. Holy shit. It was huge. It's a very proud moment for them. They beat the Americans. Now this wasn't the only setback for Team USA. World record holders Eddie Hart and Ray Robinson were equal favourites for the 100 metre sprint, having both run their Olympic trials in dead equal world record time. How hard is that?

But it used to be only to one decimal place. Okay. So they both ran in like 9.8 or something like that. And they were both on the team and they're both world record holders. Wow. On August 31, along with fellow American sprinter Robert Taylor, they all qualified for the quarterfinal round to be held later that day. Walking through the Olympic Village at 4.17pm,

Hart saw the 100m race being shown on a TV monitor in the AVC studio. It soon became shockingly clear that these were the live images of the quarterfinals the three athletes were meant to run in. And he saw his own name on the screen saying, NA, not available. And he's like, that's my race. What? A mad dash to the Olympic Stadium in an ABC TV car resulted

in two of the three, Hart and Robinson, the two favourites, arriving too late for their quarterfinals. Oh, no. And the third, Taylor and Robinson, the two favourites, arriving too late for their quarterfinals. Oh, no. And the third, Taylor, arriving only seconds before his, so that enabled him to run but totally unprepared. Yeah. He had to run onto the track and start running, basically. He's wearing thongs.

He's still cool. He's just out of the shower. Yeah. He's got a towel on. How did they miss it? An appeal by the United States team failed and the world record holders were eliminated for the no-show, so they're out.

It turns out that their sprint coach, Stan Wright, had been given an old schedule that showed the quarterfinals as not starting before 7pm. I mean, surely when they're in a no-show, some phone calls are made, you know, even half an hour before. Yeah. Surely there's plenty an hour before. Yeah. Surely there's plenty of time before they realise. Surely you don't have to turn up at the exact time of your race.

Surely you've got to be there for a while. Yeah. Surely you want the world record holders to be there as well. And showing that it probably wasn't just their schedule, Valery Borzov from the Soviet Union, who went on to win the Olympic 100 metres title, himself almost missed his quarterfinal after he fell asleep at the stadium. His coach quickly had to wake him up and say, your race is about to start.

Get out there. That sounds like the organization of this thing was a bit messy. A little amateur hour. Yes, a little amateur. Borzov then won that and also the 200 metres, and a picture featuring him winning the 200-metre heat at the 72 Games was selected for the Voyager Golden Records. Oh. Later launched into space aboard Voyager spacecraft in 1977,

which I did a Patreon bonus episode on last year. Now they had a bunch of images that show what human life is like. An image of him winning the race is one of the representations. That's so great. I don't know how an alien would interpret a still image of him winning the race is one of the representations that's so great i don't know how an alien would interpret a still image of someone finishing a running race what very confusing hopefully not threateningly yeah the third american ray robinson won a silver medal in the 100 meter sprint so he did make it and his teammates that had missed out of the individual event won gold in the 4x100 meter relay so they got a gold medal which is nice

but coach stan wright absolutely copped it in the media and was a real scapegoat in America. Oh, that sucks. It really affected his life and career. Because he got given the wrong details. He had the wrong schedule, but he was blamed. Oh, that sucks. That's not on him.

I mean, I really think that's on the games. The games, right? The games, yeah. Seems like not just the sport is up for amateurs, so is the admin. Yeah. So we've got no professionals working here at all. As soon as you get good, you're out.

How do you schedule things? I don't know. Perfect. You're hired. Oh, okay. You're my boss. No. I don't know what I'm doing either.

Good. You're now the CEO. Oh, God. And as for the marathon around the dog's ass, American Frank Shorter, who was born in Munich, became the first from his country in 64 years to win. Born in Munchen. First in 64 years to win the Olympic marathon.

I'm sure I'm even saying that wrong anyway. It's actually Munchen. Munchen. Or something. Actually, Matt, I think you'll find. I want those tweets. Do you? I'll be confused, as I always am, I think you'll find. I want those tweets. Do you? I'll be confused, as I always am, because we're recording this, you know,

six days before it goes out. I'll have no idea what you're talking about. Mention. Mention. What's a mention? But also, it'll all just be written down. Yeah, that's true. So it'll just look like it's not munchin', it's munchin'.

That's how it'll look, every single tweet. Yeah. Problem is, Matt, you're saying it like munchin', when you should be saying it not munchin it's munchin that's how it'll look every single tweet yeah problem is matt you're saying it like munchin when you should be saying it like munchin oh that's how it's gonna look yeah well yeah don't you know what the umlaut does to a u munchin no i don't yeah makes it moon but so that's the marathon but it was a strange finish to the race traditionally held in the last day of the olympics Frank Shorter was nearing the stadium, German student Norbert Sudhaus entered the stadium wearing a track uniform, joined the race and ran the last kilometre.

Thinking he was the winner, the crowd began cheering him before officials realised the hoax and he ran off. How good is that? He just ran in and everyone's like, yeah! And how good's his name as well? Yeah. Norbert Sudhaus. Oh my god.

You can put almost any surname after Norbert and it would be the best name you ever had. So good. What about Flintstone? Norbert Flintstone. I mean. No, you're right. That's a winner. Try another one.

Rubble. Norbert Rubble. Okay. No, yeah. Okay. You're right. Anything else? I can't think of another character on that show.

I think that's it. Dino. Dino. Norbert Dino. I think that's it. Dino. Dino. Norbert Dino. That's good. Norbert Dino. There's probably someone called Rockwell on there or something like that. Oh, yeah.

Probably. Norbert Rockwell. Norbert Sudhaus. I've only just got Flintstones and Rubble. I've only just got that. 32 years old. Anyway. So, Norbert Sudhaus. He runs and he's a student. He's wearing rubble. I only just got that. 32 years old. Anyway. So, not with Sudhaus.

He runs and he's a student. He's wearing a uniform. Everyone's like, this guy's winning. He arrived seconds before Shorter, who was actually winning the race. Understandably perplexed to see someone ahead of him and to hear the boos and catcalls meant for Sudhaus because they were cheering and then they realised he's a phony so the whole stadium turned on him.

But it's the same time. He really killed that guy's big moment. Yeah, he was running into people booing going, what's going on? ABC sports commentator Eric Siegel's impassioned cry during the confusion, it's a fake, Frank, became a soundbite played repeatedly over the years.

I watched the coverage. You should watch it on YouTube. My favourite part is, this is an imposter. Get him off the track. This happens at Bush League marathons. This doesn't happen at the Olympic marathon. Throw the bum out.

Get rid of the guy. Get rid of the guy. So funny. Commentator really went for it. Then the co-host says, someone, I hope his name is known for a little athlete infamy, has taken the boom of the applause that Frank should have got. And Eric Siegel responds, I hope his name is not known.

Yeah. The winner, Frank, later recalled, someone from the stands yelled, don't worry, Frank. I said to myself, why should I worry? I'm winning. If someone had gone by me, I would have known it. Yeah, that's a good point. So, yeah.

Bit of fun. Okay, so those are the things that the Olympics should be famous for. Honestly, I get obsessed when I – we've done a few Olympic topics. Yeah. I love going through the fun little moments. I think a series going through each Olympic Games could be really fun because there's always controversial and fun moments, new sports added. Imagine if we found, though, like there's just one Olympics in there

that's really dull. Really dull. I mean, sure, people won, people lost. But it was just round like clockwork. Atlanta, the toilet. No controversy. Everyone knows she would call it.work. Atlanta, the toilet. No controversy. Everyone knows she would call it. Honestly, yeah, if people won that, let me know.

The toilet, HG. I love it. I love going through the games, finding the highlights, the weird occurrences. Let me know if you do. Hey, Dave. I think that sounds fantastic, but I've just found another fun fact. It looks like-

Excuse me? You found what? Well, I've found another fact, I believe. So we call it Munich. Germans call it München. Bavarians, even more local, Minga. Oh, I love it. Minga.

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we work together to create positive change for a better tomorrow. Join us at yorku.ca slash write the future. So yeah, I love going through the the hearts the fun bits basically but not like the main part of today's topic because all that triumph and perseverance of the 1972 munich games has been massively overshadowed by a tragic event and to give the background we briefly need to talk about something that is very difficult to briefly talk about, and that is the still ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine. If you guys know much about it, it's hugely complicated. This is quite a twist. Yeah.

Yeah. It's one of those things that's quite nuanced and obviously- Very much so. Yeah. It's hard to fully understand when you're not part of that community. So I know, yeah, very little. Hey, Dave, is this a topic you chose or was voted on? I voted on this topic.

They voted on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. No, the 1972 Munich. But to answer that, you need to understand why it happened. And also, I've deliberately talked about the fun parts of the games, and this is the U-turn because that's what happened at the games. It's fun. Everyone's having a great time. And then an incident happens that just, like, ruins all of that.

People are running out the dog's ass. Yeah, exactly. We're having a great time. People are, you know, it's living up to the games of friendliness. The American basketball team isn't accepting their silver medals. We're having a great time. So, I'm going to try and give a bit of context but it's very difficult to talk about briefly and like you said just very nuanced vox if you want to look into it more have a great series of articles that i will link to the show notes published by zach beecham in 2018

beecham sums it up in one sentence is Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs both want the same land and a compromise has proven difficult to find. Okay. That is a nice sum up. If you want to read all, there's about 24 articles. Wow. And there's like questions like, why is this? Who is Israel?

Who is Palestine? You click on it and he has a great summary and I really loved it. Dave, that was great because it just made it sound like you're going to have to talk about this for a while, but you just nodded that one sentence. Fantastic. There is a bit more. Okay. But, you know, I've summed it up as quickly as possible without leaving out all the context.

He continues, Israel is the world's only Jewish state located just east of the Mediterranean Sea. Palestinians, the Arab population that hails from the land Israel now controls, refer to the territory as Palestine and want to establish a state by that name on all or part of the same land. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is over who gets what land and how it's controlled. And of course, both sides see the narrative very differently, which is also adding to the nuance and the confusion.

But as a brief contextual guide, between 1896 and 1948, hundreds of thousands of Jews resettled from Europe to what was then British-controlled Palestine, including large numbers forced out of Europe during the Holocaust. The movement to create a homeland for the Jewish people is called Zionism. According to the Virtual Jewish Library, the legitimacy of the Zionist enterprise of returning Jews to the land of Israel is based on Jewish descent from the ancient Israelites. But again from Vox, but many Arabs saw the influx of Jews as a European colonial movement, and the two peoples fought bitterly. Then the British couldn't control the violence,

and in 1947 the United Nations voted to split the land into two countries. There was a big war in 1948 and that uprooted 700,000 Palestinians from their homes creating a refugee crisis that is still not resolved. Palestinians call this mass eviction the Nakba which is Arabic for catastrophe. Then there was another war in 1967 and it left Israel in control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, two territories in the area home to large Palestinian populations. And one of the groups, we're getting there, people, the groups fighting against this fact was the Palestinian Liberation Organization, or the PLO, the political party Fatah controls the PLO.

According to Vox, in the first decades after its 1964 creation, the PLO sought to destroy Israel and replace it with an entirely Palestinian state. Fatah's founder is a very famous man called Yasser Arafat. You might have heard of him. He employed military tactics towards this end, including attacks on Israeli civilians. So at first it was like, huge war, we're going to kill them

or get rid of them so we can have the land. But in the 80s and 90s, Arafat changed tactics and went from warfare to negotiations with Israel, and eventually he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1994. Wow. That's quite the about face. But this was decades before that, and in 1971, which we're getting close to 1972, a breakaway militant,

that's how time works, a breakaway militant faction of the Fatah was formed called Black September, which is a pretty badass name. I do like that, actually. As a name. Yeah, it's pretty scary. For a boy or girl. Yeah. That would be fantastic.

Black September Jones. Ooh. Who are you having a kid with? Jonesy. Yeah, right. Jonesy. Jonesy. Jonesy.

Duh. Come on. Now that you've answered that. Do you feel silly? I. Jonesy. Jonesy. Duh. Come on. Now you've answered that. Do you feel silly? I feel very silly. You should feel silly. Wow. This is obviously all very messy.

It's very messy. But I'm trying to sum it up quickly. Yeah. Oh, yeah. To give the context before the story moves on again. But you need to know Black September, they're named after a conflict between the PLO and the Kingdom of Jordan. That was a big incident okay black september were hardline militants willing to inflict great violence for their cause and some argued that they directly got their orders from

fata the palestinian political party basically doing the party's dirty work that's what some say but other sources say they were a genuine radical breakaway from the more moderate Fatah operating with their own autonomy. Like whether they're so hardline they go off and do their own thing or whether they're just doing the dirty work so the political party can claim we had nothing to do with that. And they did some pretty crazy stuff. Black September's first attack was the 1971 assassination of Jordan's prime minister.

So that's the background here. Palestine, in terms of the Olympics, were not invited to join the Olympics until 1996. But in 1972, Black September planned to make their mark on the Olympic world stage anyway, albeit in a very different way. Okay. Flash mob? I wish.

There's no better way of getting your word out there than having a flash mob. Am I right? Or skywriting. Those are the big two. If you can combine the two in one massive thing. Flash skywriting. Jumping out of the plane when people least expect it.

Oh, my God. Like you're on a 747. Yeah. You pull that door. Out you go. Hold up a banner. It says, will you marry me, Janet? Now, who's Janet?

Is it Janet Jones? Oh, my God. Matt, it's like you pay no attention to my personal life. Are you dating Janet Jones? Yeah, Jonesy. I don't have time to explain this to you. What do you think we're talking about? So, Palestine, they're not at the Olympics until 1996 officially,

but Israel were at the 72 Games, and at 72 they sent 42 athletes. And these games had a deeper meaning for their country to quote from the guardian citizens of the young jewish state many of them holocaust survivors or their children were returning to the land whose government had so recently set to wipe out their people from the earth holy shit and marching with pride beneath their own flag fencer dan allen later said taking part in the opening ceremony only 36 years after berlin was one of the most beautiful moments in my life we were in heaven oh that's so when they walked in the opening ceremony is a very uh moving moment flying under the star of david in a country that

oh yeah a couple of decades ago literally tried to kill those people yeah wow so they're at the games they're competing they're part of that fun part that I was talking about at the start of the game. All that peace. So much peace. So much peace. Peace and fun and, hey, it's sport. Yeah, the spirit that it's supposed to be done in. Let's play some sport, you guys. Have some fun.

Know what I mean? Yeah, so much peace. It's a P-O-D, basically. That's how much O-D and on P. P being peace. Okay, that was confusing to me. Because I was thinking it was piss. I was thinking I'm piss over here.

I mean, how much is too much? I'm full of piss. I found out. Like, yeah, bad grills in it over here. I've got three litres of water, but just in case, I'd better drink my own piss. I'd better drink all of this piss. Whose piss is it?

Who cares? Part of the fun is not knowing. It's pretty big in Australian sport, the bubbler, or at least in Sydney sport, rugby league. How's the bubbler, Bob? No. Do I want to know? It's where the rugby league players piss in their own mouth for fun.

It's for fun. You're looking at me like it's not for fun. It's for a bit of fun, Bob. This is why I hate to make generalisations here, but this is why groups, more than four men, should not be allowed to hang out at any given time. Hang on, just because we've got a different culture to you. No.

Couldn't help but agree. No more than four? If you've got three more men in this room right now and you left Jess within five minutes we would be bubbling into our own mouths for fun honestly it's

I don't think this is a group activity I think this is more of a solo thing maybe you've got one other guy there to film it and this is you pleading the case I know I'm pissing into your mouth do you recall this I remember there was you would have played on the Friday Fun it was a very oh my god no And this is you pleading the case. I know. I'm pissing into your mouth. Do you recall this?

I remember there was a- You would have played on the Friday Funnies at the project. Oh, my God, no. It was a very graphic photo going around of an NRL player bubbling. I saw him on a- That guy, he- Remember there was this ABC or maybe SBS show about reputation rehabilitation?

No, I don't remember that. And he was on that. And it was with some of the- It was like the broad chaser sort of family of shows was one of those. And he was like, you know, it was just fun. I really didn't think it would blow up into this big thing. Now it's all he's known for. I thought people would think it was really fun and cool

that I pissed in my own mouth. Blah, blah, blah. And I think he said it was maybe even a perspective trick. He wasn't really doing it. Look, I'll show you now. Please move on with this report. I hate talking about this. Okay.

I wish I never knew about La Bubbler. Sorry about that. You do love Bear Grylls, though. I love Bear Grylls. That's different. He's like, it's just a slow-mo Bubbler. He's just added an extra step in. Yeah, he's putting the cup.

Yeah, the step is surviving. Okay, on September 4th, 1972, just over half way through the Olympics, most of the Israeli delegation went out for a night at the theatre watching a production of Fiddler on the Roof. Fiddler on the Roof. Could be another one for the bubbler. That's when you bubble on a roof. I'm trying everything to avoid you going on with this grim topic, I think.

Well, at the time, Abu Daud, who was a leader of the Black September organization, was briefing eight of his colleagues at a restaurant in Munich's train station about what they were about to do. Before this, at least some of the group had been completely in the dark on their missions. One of the eight militants, Jamal al-Ghashi, codenamed Samir, they all get codenames, later recalled his reason for joining Black September. He claimed that he was born in extreme poverty in a refugee camp in Beirut and felt that joining the liberation movement and then Black September was a way of reshaping the future of his country and his people. He'd flown to Libya for a special training camp and had the feeling that he had been selected for a special operation, but he had no idea what it was.

He was taken to Munich where he stayed in a hotel and even attended a couple of Olympic volleyball matches. Just having a day out at the volleyball. But he maintains that until at the train station, he had no idea that the target was going to be the Israeli Olympians at the Olympic Village. A little after 4 a.m. that morning, September 5th, the eight travelled to the Olympic Village via taxis.

According to Time magazine, they were each given a tracksuit with the name of an Arab nation on the back to blend in in the village. Abu Dayoud, the mastermind of the mission, did not join the men and the leader on the ground became Lut in the village. Abu Daud, the mastermind of the mission, did not join the men and the leader on the ground became Lutif Afif, codenamed Isa. I'm going to forget all these codenames. Well, he's the one you really have to remember because he's a leader.

Isa. Okay. Now, remember, there are no police or army at the village, which is deliberately lapsed in security. So, there weren't – I thought you were sort of saying no visible ones, meaning there were a lot of undercover ones, but not no no they're not allowed in right there's a rule saying wow we'll take care of it with these guys in blue yeah people in peaceful and chill and we trust you it's a friendly vibe that's what they want yeah the village was surrounded by a seven

foot wire fence with some barbed wire on top but it should have been easy enough to scale but when they started climbing these are the eight palestinian guides they were interrupted by a group of drunk american athletes returning from a night out they were also climbing the fence and breaking back into the village after hours and rather than question the men the americans decided to cheerfully help them climb over the fence and into the olympic village then the palestinians also helped the americans get back in so they helped each other over the fence the The Americans had no idea that the sports bags being carried by the men they were helping contained assault rifles, pistols, and grenades. How crazy would that be looking back on?

Yeah, you wouldn't feel great about it. No. A group of passing post office workers also noticed the men, but they thought nothing of it. Because everyone's got peace on the brain. Exactly. It's been a great game. It's so fun.

Everyone's having a great time. This wasn't the first time in the village for some of the men. Two members of the group had already taken advantage of the lax security to visit the village and knew exactly where they were going. The address, 31 Connolly Strasser. That was the address of the building that contained the Israeli delegation over five apartments. The front door was unlocked.

The terrorists forced their way into apartment one where the coaches were sleeping. Now, Israeli wrestling judge Yosef Gutfrund. That is... Okay, yep. What? No, I realise he's a wrestling judge or coach. No, he is a judge at the game, so he judges all...

You know how there was a Romanian basketball referee before? He's like that for wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha. I was hoping they'd walked in, got a wrestler who went, mm-mm, not today. No way. Like that's one of the last people you want to come across. Well, I mean, you say that.

Fantastic point because he heard scratching at the door and thought it was a teammate returning home. He's an ex-wrestler himself. That's how he got into it. Yeah, I would assume he'd had some experience in it or that would feel pretty hypocritical. When the door cracked open in the darkness, he could make out the barrels of several weapons.

He was a big, strong man and he threw his 6'3", 132-kilo frame against the door and shouted out to the others, Danger, guys, terrorists. For critical seconds, Goodfriend succeeded in holding back the terrorists, allowing his roommate, weightlifting coach, Now we've got a weightlifter in there too? Yeah, weightlifter. They have chosen the wrong room.

He was 132 kilos, you say? At six foot what? Six foot three. The man is a beast. That is a beast. And he's holding the door back with eight people with guns opening it. Let's be honest. Somebody breaks into our room.

It's me going to the door, isn't it? You're leg pressing that door. Oh, my gosh. You're on your back. Legs against the door.'t it your leg pressing that door oh my god you're on your back legs against i said boys you take your time i've got this all day dave and i are cuddling in the corner shivering oh please please bob save us so he held the door for it wow for several seconds allowing his roommate weightlifting coach tuvia sokolsky, to shatter a rear window and flee to safety through a backyard garden.

Saved that man's life. Apparently, the force to which Gutfrund held the door back was so strong that it bent the hinges. Get fucked! He was fighting for his life. But, of course, eventually the strength of eight men pushed the door open, using their guns as crowbars to crowbar their way in. Bending their guns, and now to crowbar their way in bending their

guns and now the bullets shoot at a weird angle yeah straight back at them oh no oh no wrestling coach moshi weinberg was confronted by the group's leader issa weinberg picked up a nearby fruit knife tried to fight back but he was shot through the cheek after slashing out. What? It didn't kill him. The wounded Weinberg was then ordered by the terrorists at gunpoint to show them where the rest of the Israelis were because they're in apartment one. But he took them past apartment two, lying and saying,

there's no Israelis inside there, and he went to apartment three because apartment two contained fences and race walkers. The weak ones. Yeah, the small slider ones. He hoped that the six larger wrestlers and weightlifters in Apartment 3 would stand more of a chance at resisting. Yeah, but fuck, you're still throwing somebody under the bus, but what else can he do?

I'm 100% on his side. And good call in like those little ones are useless. It's like, okay, well, Apartment 2 has all the jockeys in it. Don't worry about that. I guess we'll go try the wrestlers and weightlifters. Apartment two's got puppies in there. We'll leave them. The biggest, yeah, the biggest dudes.

Sadly, they were all asleep and caught completely by surprise. They hadn't been woken up. Otherwise, they probably would have been a much better chance because they were big dudes. But he did manage to save lives. All five residents of apartment two managed to leave the building through the garden and flee to safety because he lied and said, oh, no, they're not Israelis.

Wow. The athletes, sadly, from apartment three, like you said, Jess, it's got to be someone, were ordered at gunpoint back to the coach's apartment in apartment one. And then the already shot in the cheek Weinberg again attacked the gunman. Very brave man. Are you kidding me?

Very brave. Tragically, he was shot again and he died this time. But his second heroic action and the distraction it caused allowed one of the wrestlers, Gad Sabari, to escape. He pushed one of the militant's guns out of the way and ran for a door and just sprinted through a car park. And even though he was pursued by a gunman who shot at him in the car park, he just kept running.

That was only because Weinberg had distracted them for a second, sacrificing his life. So he saved two. That's badass. He saved two people very directly and then the entire second apartment. Yeah. That's amazing. So, I mean, how do we just,

they've sort of assumed that that was the story because he died. He wasn't able to say that he – but the story was told that he took him past that room. Yeah, past that room, yeah. And they filled in the blanks sort of thing. Holy shit. So, this guy, Gatsabari, who ran away, he ran to the Olympics press centre.

He just sprinted there to report what was going on. He was ignored for the first few seconds because it's like four or five in the morning until talking to a taking a journalist aside and calmly explaining what had happened and who he was after being escorted under police guard sabari found a woman that spoke hebrew and german and over the next five hours he sketched on maps and to describe what had happened how he'd escaped what kind of people how many people were injured and how many terrorists all that sort of, which authorities thought for a long time was four because he'd seen four people. And that's an important detail.

They think there's four guys with guns. But there's- There's actually eight. Four. That's double. Yes. Hang on. Yeah, double.

Yeah, double, double. That's at least double. At least. I don't think we can be more precise than that. I don't think we could possibly. That's double recurring. It's at least. I don't have my scientific calculator on me right now. I don't think we could possibly. It's double recurring. It's at least. I don't have my scientific calculator on me right now.

Okay, I didn't know I had to bring that to work today. I didn't know I needed my TI5 or whatever it was called. I still have one somewhere. Really? I think so. Did you ever do the thing where you- Say boobs, of course. No, but made it play games or something?

Some people like- Yeah, I had games on it. There was also a game you could put on it or a program you could put on it that made it look like you weren't playing a game. Oh, wow. Or that you had no saved things in it. It was just a program that like imitated the calculator. That's so awesome. But if the teacher just knew that it did have one flashing pixel.

Or was it like a space invader flashing in the top right corner or something? So if the teacher knew about it, then you were done. But yeah, that was funny. Funny memories. I wasn't good at maths, so I was playing a lot of games. Yeah, there were great games in there. I can't remember any of them. Good times.

Before iPhones. Yeah, that's right. them. Good times. It was before iPhones. Yeah, that's right. The best we had. Okay. If you're listening, kids. That's all we had. So the remaining 10 hostages, so there's 10 left alive, were all forced into a single bedroom.

One of the weightlifters, Yosef Romano, had been unable to compete one of his lifts due to a ruptured knee tendon. He was due to fly home to Israel on the next day, on September 6th, to have an operation. Just stuff like that breaks your heart. It does but yeah there's just those chance little details they weren't supposed to be there just a twist of the knife isn't it really but once inside the apartment romano attacked the intruders slashing afif ahmed hamid codename paulo in the face with a paring knife another fruit knife and tried to grab his AK-47 away from him before being shot himself. Fucking, that's some badass stuff.

Oh, man, they're brave, brave people. Whoa. He died in the apartment and his body was left on the floor as a warning to the others, which is so, so grim. That's horrendous. So there were nine hostages left alive who were tied together, and I'll give you a little background on all of them. 40-year-old Josef Gutfrund, who was the Romanian-born wrestling judge

who had thrown his weight against the door, allowing at least one colleague to escape and also waking up the others in the apartment, or the other apartments rather. 53-year-old shooting coach Kihat Shaw, born in Romania. Because that's the thing about Israel. It's a relatively new country, so most of these people are not born in Israel. They're Jewish people from all over the world who have moved to it. So even in itself, the delegation is extremely multicultural.

When did you say Israel was formed? The late 1940s. Right. So it was pretty much a response to Nazis and all that. Yes, 1948. Right. Yeah, after the British mandate over Palestine expired and the UN rule, there'll be two countries from now on.

Sadly, it didn't last very long. But, yeah, it's a relatively new country, and most of these people, yeah, they're from all around the world. 40-year-old track and field coach Amitsoh Shapir, who was born in Tel Aviv. He was the coach of Esther Roth Sharomarov, who became the first Israeli to make an Olympic final at the

next Olympics in the 100-meter hurdles. There's also a 27-year-old fencing master and coach, Andrei Spitzer, also born in Romania. Wasn't the swimmer Spitzer? Spitz. Mark Spitz. Yes.

No relation. No relation. Because of the difference. But I will talk about him again in relation to this story. Okay. In a minute. It's about Andre Spitzer. He's the fencing coach.

His wife, Anki, recalled that just a few days earlier, and this is just another Olympic story, what it should be like at the Olympics. She recalled that he spotted members of the Lebanese team and told me he was going over to say hello to them. And I said to him, are you out of your mind? They're from Lebanon. Israel was in a state of war with Lebanon at the time.

Anki, he said calmly, that's exactly what the Olympics are all about. Here I can go to them. I can talk to them. I can ask them how they are. That's exactly what the Olympics are all about. So he went towards this Lebanese team and he asked them, how were your results? I'm from Israel.

How'd it go? And to my amazement, I saw that the Lebanese responded and they shook hands with him and they talked to him and they asked him about his results. I'll never forget when he turned around and came back towards me with this huge smile on his face. You see, he said excitedly, this is what I was dreaming about. I knew it was going to happen.

That's very sweet. That's very sweet very sweet very nice he'd also uh the day before before the hostage taking he'd gone to see his daughter who was uh in the netherlands staying with her grandparents and she was a baby at the time and the couple went to go see her and spend a few days with her because i think she'd been sick and when she was given the clean bill of health andre was said you know you're all good to go back to join the team in munich but he missed the train that morning that this is the morning before but he said to his wife anki oh well listen i get to spend another day with you but she insisted he could make it so you could probably make it to the next station she drove really fast beating the train where he was able to board and he'd only been back four hours because he got there at midnight or something when he was taken as a hostage. But it's one of those things, again, it's like if you could go back in time

and tell him don't get on the train. Yeah, stay here. Ugh. Whoa. Awful. Yeah. A 51-year-old weightlifting judge, Jakob Springer, was also in the room. He had been born in Poland and during the Holocaust took part

in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, the largest single revolt by Jews during World War II. He was the only member of his immediate family that survived the war. And Munich 1972 was his fifth Olympics as a judge. What? So he'd been to a lot. Wow. He has, apart from all that, been pretty sick.

His name's fantastic. Yakov Springer. That's very good. Rolls off the tongue. Springer. I like a lot of these names. I really do. Yeah, they're really great.

24-year-old Latvian-born wrestler Eliza Helfen was a mechanic and had only been a citizen of Israel for seven months. He was eliminated in the third round of the lightweight freestyle wrestling. Freestyle. You can do whatever you want. They put some music on. You just go with it. You get a water point.

That's what I'm imagining for freestyle. Yeah, of course. It's the same in the pool, right? I assume. Put music through the water. That is what freestyle means, right? They can swim any style. Yeah, but freestyle is just the fastest.

Yeah. So it sort of just became. But if you're better at butterfly than other people at freestyle, you can do that. Yeah. Huh. Interesting. Because the stroke itself is called Aussie Crawl or The Crawl or something.

What? Yeah. What? Isn't that right? But I think over time freestyle has kind of, you know, become synonymous for it. Freestyle is the name of it now. That's what people call it, the freestyle.

Because it is the fastest way to swim What? Yeah but if you happen to be able to swim Like a dolphin or whatever quicker You can like kick your legs real good You can technically do that at the Olympics Yeah I'm pretty sure What?

There's a rule on that dolphin thing Under the water That they have to come up a certain amount Oh you're right Once you dive You used to be able to I think you used to be able to do it Basically as long as you could

And then people were really starting to take the piss You're like up and back. Yeah. No worries. Whoa, I did not know that. That is a fun fact I just learned. The ultimate pleasure of a child is being in a family pool and seeing how many laps you can do from one end to the other in one breath.

Yeah. Front crawl. Front crawl. That makes sense. Also known as Australian crawl or American crawl. Oh, and is that where the band Aussie Crawl was? Yeah, I guess so. Wow.

There you go. They were swimming fans all along. I'm finally learning something on this podcast. Wow. It's only taken seven years. Can I go home now? Yep. That's enough.

I'm done for the day. Bye-bye. Okay. I'm nearly through my list here, but I did want to mention all of them. There was 18-year-old Mark Slavin who was born in Belarus and had moved to Israel just four months before the Olympic Games. The youngest Israeli Olympian competing at the Games,

he was also considered the nation's most likely medal contender and was due to make his Olympic debut on the day he was taken hostage. Oh, my God. So he didn't get to compete. He was the favourite make his Olympic debut on the day he was taken hostage. Oh, my God. So he didn't get to compete. He was the favourite of his country. What was his sport again? He was another wrestler. Ah.

And then there was 28-year-old weightlifter David Berger born in God's country, Cleveland, Ohio. What? I love Ohio. I cannot wait to get there. Are we going to get there this year? I don't want to jinx it. We can dream.

We can dream big. I want to travel along that golden mile. I don't know if it's walking distance or what, but we've got to hit up Gary, Indiana. Are you going to walk along the golden mile? Ohio. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. From what?

And then we're going to hit up the Creamies. All the way in Vermont. In Vermont. We've got to extend the mile quite a long way. Yeah. Well, maybe if we need to get like a scooter or something, then I guess we could. One of those e-scooters or something, I guess that should be fun.

We'll split three ways. We'll get on there. Carry Dave on my back. Have we added anywhere else under the golden mile? I can't remember. But there's some of the key ones. Yeah, that's some of the must-sees. Yeah.

There's a few more possibilities. Yeah. So, yeah, this guy, David Berger, he's some of the must-sees. Yeah. There's a few more possibilities. Yeah. So, yeah, this guy, David Berger, he's born in Cleveland, a psychology and MBA law degree graduate from Columbia University in 1968. Competing as a middleweight, he finished fourth in the US Olympic trials, and his father, Benjamin, was once quoted as saying, I used to tell him, you may not be the best weightlifter in the world, but you're certainly the smartest.

It is so good. That's okay. I guess that doesn't really count, Dad. Yeah, I'm about to go try and lift a heavy thing. Yeah, well, you might not be able to do that, but I reckon you could outthink him. Yeah, but you went to Columbia. Pretty good.

Ask him a maths question when you're out there. It's just Dad not knowing how to just tell a kid I'm proud of you. When do they do the written tests? You're telling me they don't? Yeah. When's the special talent bit? You can do your arithmetic. He knows Pi to like 15 places.

Pretty good. 3.14. I can do it to two places. Okay, fancy man. He'drated to israel for work and won a silver medal at the 1971 asian weightlifting championships so he's very good and achieved a longtime dream when he was chosen to represent israel as a member of the 1972 israel olympic team he was also eliminated in an early round but still he competed that was his dream what a guy and the final hostage was the 28-year-old weightlifter,

Zeev Freidman, who was born in Russia, then the Soviet Union. He placed 12th, which was one of the best achievements of any Israeli athlete at the time. It's just like, yeah, talk about just being at the Olympics. It would be so surreal. How cool. Living your dream like that. Yeah, I love it.

What's your dream again, Dave? To have a top 10 hit, isn't it? Yeah, top 10 hit. Aria charts? At the Olympics. At the Olympics? Yeah, that's right. So it has to be once every four years.

You've only got a two-week period to get in the top 10. And I want to perform it at the opening ceremony and then go top 10. And then go platinum. Would you accept it if it was, you know, in the New Zealand charts or the American charts or anything? That means nothing to me. Okay, it's got to be Australian ARIA charts.

I reckon I'd take it, actually. You'd take the American charts? Oh, you think you'd take it? I'd take the hot 100. You'd take... You know what? I've thought about it and I concede. I would accept top one.

Exactly. I will not accept an Oscar, but I will take an actor award. Thank you so much. I recognise the Australian arts. Hey, well, you were an actor nominated, which is still very surreal. We lost to some children. Hey, and their parents. And their parents who exploit the children.

Hang on. Allegedly. I'm covered now. I don't know anything about them. Is that true? Yeah, it's just a family that vlogs all the time. Yeah. Sounds pretty cool.

And our series with a set and, you know, many people working on it, nah. Just film some kids doing stuff. I think they should give the awards to whoever had the most people working on it. I agree. Thank you. I agree. It's nice that we're on the same team. Well, I don't think we would have won this.

No, me either. Yeah, you're right. Because of all of those kids. Yeah, that's right. I'm one of the kids. Family of 15 or something. Such a big family. Stop filming your kids.

Anyway, do go on. You've moved on at least. Yeah, I'm fine about it. You don't say it. I forget that that even happened, but yeah. Wild to be involved. Yeah. Wild that there is, at basically the Australian Oscars,

there's a category for online series. Yeah. We could get it for the Oscars. That'd be great. Yeah. Does the Oscars work the same way, that you have to nominate yourself? Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

But, like, through your manager. Which is what we thought. Through your old nominator. Yeah, through your release people, yeah. Wow. Through Sony or something. Okay, so they're the nine hostages. Issa, the leader of the eight terrorists, was also the spokesperson.

Wearing a white suit, a white pith helmet, large sunglasses, and black boot polish on his face as a disguise. So let's add blackface to his already list of horrific crimes. He came out the front of the apartment and calmly and coolly gave his demands whilst holding a grenade. What's a pith helmet again? No, sorry, it's a piss helmet. Piss helmet.

You know, like one of those like safari hats? Right. That's quite an outfit. Yeah. There's a lot going on in that outfit. It's softer. I've seen some people say pith helmet. Other people say

Bucket helmet Or like bucket hat Like Waitus He was dressed as the guy From Waitus Her name is Noelle Dave can I just say

Hit all of those notes Perfectly mate Good stuff Good stuff I think you will get A top ten hit Well that guy did One of these Olympians

Name is Noelle get a top 10 well that guy did one of the one of these so he's wearing this uh this outfit as a disguise he came out in front of the apartment and calmly and coolly gave his demands whilst holding grenade like i said at about 5 a.m he handed over a note to the police it demanded the release of 234 pal prisoners in Israeli jails, plus two imprisoned German terrorists in return for their hostages' safe release. If this was not done by 12pm, the hostages would be executed. That's what the note says. Super long list.

So many names. The negotiators really had no idea who or what they were dealing with. They only saw three terrorists at any time. They saw Issa, another guy codenamed Tony, who stood at the window, always smoking and wearing sunglasses and a cowboy hat. So, they're all in different fancy dresses. Yeah. So, they came in wearing those- Like village people.

Yeah. So, they came in wearing those outfits to look like athletes, and then they quickly changed into these disguises. So, you've got the safari man, the guy with the safari hat. Safari hat. Or the wetter guy. Yeah, we've got wetter. We've got cowboy Tony, whose nickname in the media was cowboy.

And then another man who stood guard at the balcony door. He wasn't super dressed in any way remarkably. The only other clearly visible terrorist became the iconic image of the event, a man wearing a ski mask out on the balcony when you google uh you know munich hostages munich massacre all this sort of stuff yeah um i remember that you will see this guy it's very menacing because it's like a man in a balaclava yeah it's been suggested that this was khalid jawad aka salah codename salah but it's still unclear which of the group it was because he had his face fully covered. And at this point, they still only think there's four of them.

Four based on the interview with the guy who got away. And they've only seen these three. And they've only seen three, and they think, oh, there's probably another one inside. But really, there's four more. And at this point, all the eight terrorists are still alive? Yep. Because you said one of them got attacked, but it was...

Oh, yeah. He got hit on the nose with a knife, but it wasn't life-threatening. Right. It's just a minor wound. Right. Yeah. On the nose. Mm.

Slashed him. The authorities were left asking a lot of questions. It even took time to work out how many hostages they had inside. They're trying to work out who was supposed to be in that building, who has since escaped, and then trying to do the maths on who's in there. And it was awful for the families of the Israeli athletes because it became news, but they didn't know if it was their family in there, who it was.

Negotiations were handled by Bruno Merck, the Bavarian interior minister, his federal counterpart, Hans Dietrich Genscher, and Munich's chief of police, Manfred Schreiber, as well as mayor of the Olympic village, Walter Troger. You know, you've got to get the mayor involved. Yeah, of course. There's not been a single name that isn't fantastic. chief of police manfred schreiber as well as mayor of the olympic village walter troger you know gotta get the mayor involved yeah there's not been a single name it isn't fantastic yeah they're all great names aren't they there was also according to the guardian the assistance of a female police

officer who it was hoped would be a calming presence on all involved sorry i was wondering when they were gonna do that because that's the obvious move I'd make. Boys, boys. Calm down. All right, no, what are we going to do? There's a bunch of men in there. We've got to get a woman. We've got to get a mother in there to calm them down. Yeah, we've got to mother these boys. This is much like what they did at Woodstock 99.

Remember they got the- Yeah, that's right. Try to send a mum around to calm them down. Loved that lady. Would you say I have a calming effect on you guys? Absolutely. I'm falling asleep at all times around here Women We'll bore you to death

Send in the soothers Okay women Do you know that little bum pat? Bum pat? There's nothing more comforting than a bum pat I challenge you I agree A little pat on the bum? Oh my god nothing like it There's nothing more comforting than a bum pat. I challenge you. I agree.

A little pat on the bum? Oh, my God, nothing like it. I should add that no psychologists or trained hostage negotiators were ever consulted. Dave, they sent in a woman. It's fine. Instinct. Yeah, I think- We're all psychologists and negotiators.

Which is so baffling now, but I think at the time, this kind of thing hasn't happened very much. No, no's not there's no protocol yeah there's no not a whole industry based around this at this point yeah this is the start of the 70s after this there's lots and lots of plane hijackings becomes like the thing of the era but at this time no one really knows what to do golda mia the is Israeli prime minister, was absolutely firm that under no circumstances would any deals be struck with the terrorists. There was no way any of the prisoners they wanted released would be released. She said, if we should give in, then no Israeli anywhere in the world can feel his life is

safe. She's very strict. We can't do a deal. The German authorities offered to trade places with the athletes and this was refused. They said, we'll give up ourselves if you let them go. Holy shit. It's been commonly commented they did this just to avoid further Jewish bloodshed on German soil.

They were very worried about that. Yeah, they are feeling- They're still literally putting their- Yes, they're putting water on. But they're feeling particularly guilty. Yes, exactly. And fair enough. But wow, that's a big-

They said, you've still got people. I'm important. I'm the that's a big take off. They said, go in there. You've still got people. I'm important. I'm the mayor of the village. Wow. Let me in there. Yeah. They also offered an unlimited amount of money.

They said, name a price. You can have it. They literally said unlimited. All the money in Germany. Infinity dollars plus one. $45. Oh, shit. Shit. This was also refused. Plus one. $45. Oh, shit! Shit!

This was also refused. The Black September group stayed firm and would make no other deals. They wanted the prisoners released or else. Wow. As the 12pm deadline approached, even though Israel said they would never make a deal, the Germans lied to Issa and still said they needed more time before a decision from Jerusalem came through. They begged for more time and Issa responded, Which sounds terrible.

But before, he was going to kill them all at midday. So, at least. Right. But I think he's trying to step up the threat. Yeah. But looking at the maths on it, come on, man. That's not right. Things got more and more tense, but at 11.59,

with just a matter of seconds to go until the deadline, Issa agreed to an extension. The new deadline, 5pm. Wow. He said, you've got five hours to release those prisoners or we'll start killing people. Meanwhile, the whole situation became an absolute media frenzy. This was a live terrorist event happening where the world's media

was already gathered. It was the first time a terrorist incident had reached a global audience during a live broadcast because, you know, they're all there for the Olympics. There's hundreds of cameras already. They've got a media centre like a few hundred metres away. Was Bruce there? Bruce is there. Yeah, Bruce.

Was Bruce active this early, do you think? I feel like Bruce has been around for centuries. Yeah, Bruce. Surely Bruce. Was Bruce active in this early, do you think? Bruce McEvaney we're talking about? I feel like Bruce has been around for centuries. Yeah, that's right. I haven't lived in a world where Bruce wasn't at every sporting event. Yeah, Bruce has always existed. Yeah, Bruce is eternal. There's always been a Bruce.

God, who'd be the next Bruce? That's, I mean, big shoes to fill. Massive. So he was born in 53 he's 19 years old 19 years old probably well so i reckon he was a wunderkind yeah absolutely yeah wow i don't think he was there someone i know there probably would have been some abc or nine's wide world of sports or something there because about 900 million people are believed to have watched the hostage crisis live on television.

Whoa. It was huge news. Wow. NPR writes, at the Olympic Press Centre, 11 monitors showed the ongoing athletic events, while another three were trained on the building where the Israelis were being held hostage. David Marash was a CBS radio reporter at the time,

and he said in 2002, those simultaneous images flickering on those monitors struck me as the most incongruous, most inappropriate, most flat, surreal visual memory of my life. Because even though this might seem unbelievable now, despite what was going on, the International Olympic Committee refused to halt the Games. Oh, wow. Athletes continued to compete. People protested around the world at this,

calling it a ridiculous and callous decision. At 6am, the outgoing, so he's on the way out anyway, president of the IOC, American man, Avery Brundage. Avery. So this is before Dick Pound's era. Yeah, before tenure. That's right, this is Avery. Or Rog.

This is the era of Avery Brundage. He was told of the situation. He ordered that the game should continue, and at 8.15am, with two Olympians lying dead in the Athletes' Village, the day's scheduled event began on time. Whoa. That would feel so strange. So weird.

To quote from The Guardian, Brundage spent his day exerting pressure on German officials to get the Israelis out of the village and allowed the Olympics to carry on in peace. The games, he said, must continue at all costs. Notice he says, we've got to get the Israelis out, not we've got to get the terrorists out. Yeah.

He's like, just make it go away from the Olympics. I don't want it associated with the Olympics anymore. Super cold, super callous. Right. Wow. This is the IAC boss. Yep. Heavily criticized since.

And at the time, too. What was his name? Avery Brundage. So he was there. It looks like he was there from 52 to 72. Yeah, so this is his last games. Dick Pound was never there. I don't know.

Jacques Rogge. Jacques Rogge. Dick Pound is a very high up official though, isn't he? I was one. Antonio Samaranch was the one when we were kids. Yeah. When you were kids. 1980 to 2000.

He was only called, Sydney, the best games ever. Agreed. We'll take it. Dick Pound is currently the longest serving member of the IOC. Right. And with a fantastic name. Let's be honest. The all-time great name. Dick Pound is currently the longest serving member of the IOC. Right. And with a fantastic name. Let's be honest. The all-time great name.

Dick Pound. Dick Pound. I mean, Jacques Rog is so good. Very good. But come on. Dick Pound. Dick Pound. Sorry, Jacques.

Sorry, Jacques. Step aside. That is so funny. Dick Pound. And did I say that Bruce's first Olympics that he covered was Moscow 1980? Oh, okay. Close. Wow, he's been around for such a long time.

That's so long, isn't it? Wow. Yeah, he arrived the same year as Juan Antonio Samaranch. There you go. Well, maybe the American Bruce is Jim McKay. He's famously associated with the coverage of the 1972 event here. He hosted the ABC's Wild World of Sports in America. On his only day off during the Olympics, he heard what was going on

and he came in to report on the ongoing hostage situation and was on air for 14 hours without a break. Whoa. Pissing in a bucket? Wild. He must have been. Piddling on the roof. So the IOC finally bowed to intense international pressure

and the Olympic events were finally halted at 3.51pm, 10 hours after the news of the situation first reached the IOC leadership. The fact that they didn't halt the game earlier would be criticised for years afterwards. Yeah. Isn't that wild? That could never happen now. There's a terrorist event a couple hundred meters away

from where events are being held. Yeah. It's just wild. It was like, I mean, not at all the same scale, but there was an NFL game last month when a player basically died on the field. He was resuscitated, but no one knew if he was going to survive. Luckily, he did. But it wasn't known for days.

And apparently, the NFL commissions like, give each team five minutes to warm up and we'll get the game going again. And the guy's still lying on the field. My God. And apparently, both teams and their coaches said, nah, game's over. Game's over. We're not playing.

Far out. Yeah. Don't you think? Like surely. Hey, hey, hey. I'm an empath. Everybody take five minutes. Take five.

I know that's a bit stressful. Bit stressful, isn't it? Five minutes. How about five? Okay. But I mean five. I don't mean like. Tight five.

I mean a tight five. Okay. I want you on, ready to go. Thank you, five. Thank you, five. I'm afraid I've already hit start on the timer when i started this sentence so there's only four minutes 30 left good luck out there wild yeah just like surely the instinct still isn't all right well sport is great but yeah nearly anything outranks bigger than that that's right yeah much bigger much bigger. Much, much bigger. So Mark Spitz, who had already won his seven gold medals at this point,

was immediately evacuated out of the country upon hearing of the terrorist attack because he himself was Jewish and the American team worried that he could become a very high-profile victim and a target. He was the only one of the American team kicked – That they rushed home, yeah. Were there other Jewish people in there? Probably, yeah. But they're like, he's our highest profile Jewish person.

We can't risk this moustache. Wow. They got him out of there. Yeah, okay. It's an interesting move. The Egyptian team, fearing reprisals, also packed their bags and immediately flew home. Wow.

So they were like, all right, the games are over. Yeah. I mean, it feels like nearly everyone should be. It's over. done it's it's wild so wild to look back and there's so much footage of it throughout most of the village life went on pretty much as usual the canadian dorm which is next to the israelis wasn't even evacuated they were told they could stay and just keep living there as normal it's so there's dudes with machine guns in the building next to you. They know they've got grenades. The guy's walking around with a grenade and they're like,

no, you can live there. What? It's fine. What? If I was on the Canadian team, I'd have some strong opinions about that. It's so funny. It's funny you say that because I felt that same way, but then I listened to an interview with a Canadian guy.

He's a reporter and he's covered like every Olympic Games since this. But he was an athlete at the time and he said, at the time we didn't feel fearful at all. Just mostly because these sort of terrorist events were so out of the world to us. We couldn't even imagine what was happening in there. And he goes, I never felt fear. And he goes, looking back, I probably should have. But we didn't question it at all.

We just went, oh, yeah. Isn't that fascinating? It's like we couldn't even comprehend it. We know there's hand grenades and guns. Yeah, people are being held hostage there. We're aware of what they mean. Our peers are fearing for their life. Our imagination can't.

And also, it's just funny. It just shows that it was a different world. You know, terrorism, we've just grown up with it and all that sort of stuff on TV and things. But just for them or whatever, he just said, we just didn't really think about it. And he kind of apologised for it. He's like, I'm sorry that I didn't really think about it. Yeah, I mean, not his fault.

It should have been handled so much. No, exactly. He should have been in a rush to his own safety. So it was a ridiculous juxtaposition. In one building, nine athletes and Olympic staff are being held hostage at literal gunpoint. But the rest of the village people innocently sunbathe, played table tennis, they trained, they still ran around

and just had a great time. Imagine sunbathing. Yeah, and there's footage of that. And, like, there's footage. It pans from where, like, the building where you can see, like, guys with machine guns that go in the balaclava and then it pans over like 100 metres and there's just athletes sunbathing just behind a fence.

So weird. It's so weird. It's so insensitive. It's so strange. Wow. I guess a different world, but they just didn't really think. The German authorities did make an attempt to do something, but it's not the most solid plan.

See what you think of this? They delivered food for the hostages in such large quantities that they hoped that more than one terrorist would be required to come and get the food and then they could rush them or if that didn't work they hoped that the two chefs delivering the food would be allowed to drop it off because it's so much of it and then they could at least count how many terrorists they were dealing with and the men dressed as chefs like you imagine a chef's costume that's what they're dressed as they're actually yeah like a parody of a chef that's what they look like big puffy hat yeah big puffy hat but they're actually secretly policemen but no one was allowed in and one of the terrorists came out and grabbed the food in a few trips yeah it wasn't the best plan to be honest yeah and just came out four times and just grabbed the food room service yeah a plan to flood instant knockout gas

through the air conditioning system was abandoned because no such gas could be found oh they're like how about that i don't think it exists sounds like it was a good plan i was thinking about it before i'm like they should just throw in some of that gas yeah they didn't have any okay that's probably a good reason it's interesting to note the calling in the army wasn't an option because west germany's post-war constitution limited the domestic use of the army during peacetime this is one of the post-war agreements after germany surrendered after world war ii they can't really do anything with their army. Feels like a little bit of an exception. I know. Let's make a fucking exception.

Okay. It's not. We're not using it for, you know, for bad. We're using it for good. That's right. You know what I mean? Okay. Can we please borrow the army for good?

That's like they found a loophole. Yeah. Ah, ah, ah. We just want them for good. At 4.30 p.m., half an hour before the next deadline it was announced in the media that police dressed as athletes would storm the apartment at 5 p.m and come in shooting they announced this in the media oh no no that's a good idea that's a good plan the squad was made up of 38 volunteers who came from the police and west german border guards

because remember no army actually trained people. These people were in no way trained for this situation and they were not discreet. News crews from all over the world covered them from every angle, showing them walking around the building with guns whilst wearing tracksuits and helmets. They got up on... So they're trying to look like athletes,

but they're holding machine guns and wearing bulletproof helmets. And if the terrorists inside uh watching the tv coverage which they are which you'd assume that they'd look into that right yeah well they got up on the roof they got on opposite balconies and waited to hear the code word sunshine and that's when they'd start storming sunshine everyone runs in the signal never came and thank god for that because after this they realized that every room in the olympic village had a tv so inside the terrorists were watching their every move as news anchors commentated so stupid stupid do you have to be it was absolute amateur hour out there it was so i mean it was before the olympics were pro day that's right i don't know what i'm sorry are you a professional negotiator? Get out. Get out of here. This is for amateurs only.

This is not in the Olympic spirit. Get me a woman. So it's Absolute Amateur Hour, as is noted in the fantastic Academy Award winning documentary on this called One Day in September. Oh my God. That's a famous Aussie rules song. I've had that song in my head for three weeks at this point. Yeah, right. One day in September.

Don't get in my way. rules song i've had that song on my head for three weeks at this point yeah right i don't know the words is that yeah i don't that that song. Is that? Yeah, I don't. That's funny. I assumed I would know the words to that. That's happened a few times lately where you've started singing and gone, wow, I really thought I'd know the words. I thought it would just kick in.

Yeah. Look, it's up there Gazali, which is his other big footy hit. Yeah. Which is a very similar song, but I'm sure I know the words to that. Oscar winning documentary. Oh, yeah. It's called One Day in September. So I have had that song in my head. One day in September.

And someone says in the documentary they interviewed about this, and they say, at the time everyone was transfixed by the myth of utter German ruthless efficiency, and in this instance it could not be further from the truth. Wow. No one has any idea what they're doing. That's kind of brutal, but pretty funny. That review, I mean.

Yeah, it's brutal. Yeah, this is absolutely baffling. The hostage takers inside, they'd been told by the leaders that had planned this not to let the situation go on for more than 24 hours. They said, that's all you can handle. You know, mentally taxing, I guess. I mean, it's a long day for them too.

I doubt they're taking breaks. Yeah, no. And it's a very intense situation for them and the hostages. They're taking naps. You're assuming that they're not expecting to leave this alive either. Well, they were told if their demands weren't met, which is likely, they should demand a plane where they could take their hostages to a nearby friendly Arab country.

And this is exactly what they demanded at 6 p.m. They realized, we're not getting the prisoners released. We've got to get out of here. We should have taken the infinity dollars. Yeah, we should have taken that money. Gosh, that would have been good. No ink packs. Yeah.

So they, yeah, right. So they're not, they haven't killed anyone. Haven't killed anyone further. They killed two people in the morning during the takeover. But at 6pm they demanded a plane, a fuelled plane with a pilot to fly them to a friendly Arab country. The Germans agreed to the demand, but secretly they decided they would not let terrorists

take anyone who was a guest in their country away and decided this was when they would take action to either kill or arrest the militants. They were like, the Israelis are here as guests of ours. We cannot let them be taken out of the country. I say that to Uber drivers trying to pick people up from my house. I'm like, they are a guest of mine. I will not let them leave.

I'm afraid I can't let that happen. And they're like, no, Jess, I called the Uber. And I'm like, don't you try and cover for him. Yeah, you don't have to. You don't have to. I've got your back. You're safe here, I say. As you lock the door.

They're like, that's not, I'd like to go to my house. No, no, no. No, no, no. You're touching their lips. Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. Shh, shh, shh. I pat them on the bum. Some have argued that the Germans' main objective was to get the hostages away from the village

to allow the Olympics to continue and that the safety of the Israeli hostages was secondary. Wow. That's commentators. Some people have said that. Wow. But let me tell you the plan. The plan was to have helicopters take them to Fushton Feldbrook Air Base, where a Boeing 747 plane would be left on the runway with its engines idling and a crew on board.

They tell the terrorists that they could fly them to a friendly nearby nation. Really, the 12 crew waiting in the plane wearing Lufthansa uniforms would actually be armed police who had all volunteered for the job. In addition, four snipers were placed on the control tower and another on the ground on the other side of the tarmac. So they had five snipers for what they believed were four of maximum five terrorists, one for each. Right. When Issa and his deputy went to inspect the plane,

the fake crew of police would overcome them, and then the snipers would quickly take out the other two terrorists. Remember, they think there's only four. So they didn't think just in case. Let's have a few more. Yeah, a few directions. Four or five should be right. And then armoured assault vehicles would rush in to shield

and then rescue the hostages. Doesn't sound like too bad of a plan, right? Well, prepare to be more annoyed than you've ever been in your entire life. Oh, God. So the hostages and their captors were taken to the two helicopters on a bus and then they were flown to the airfield. The hostages had their hands tied and then they were tied together in the helicopters making it impossible for them to make a break for it and run away as they left the bus and walked onto the helicopters

a critical bit of information was revealed there wasn't four or max five terrorists as they thought all day in fact there was eight all heavily armed there is a lot of terrorists. It's a lot. But they've realised this as they've gotten on the bus. Yeah, they've known ahead of time. Yeah, plenty of time. So they add a few extra snipers and whatnot. Yeah, which if your plan is to take them out before they can hurt hostages, it's a critical piece of information.

Did they pass that on to the five snipers? No, they did not. No one from the village thought to tell them. And it would have been hard anyway because the snipers didn't even have radios or walkie-talkies to talk to a commander or to talk to each other and coordinate with who they were aiming for. Oh my god. Just as the helicopters began to land, the police officers undercover as the flight crew decided that their mission was too dangerous and took a vote to abandon the plane. They worried they were underprepared, undertrained, and unpersuasively disguised, having been issued incomplete

Lufthansa uniforms. They fled just seconds before the helicopters landed, which I understand why you'd think we're sitting ducks in here. Yeah. The guy could just throw a grenade and we're all going to die. But it's way too late to change the plan. Yeah. As the helicopters land, they all go, no, and they leave the place.

So now it's an empty plane. Oh, my God. So now it's all down to the snipers. Now, I say snipers, but they were not, in fact, trained snipers. Because the army wasn't allowed to get involved and use their expert snipers, they had to use police officers who happened to have an interest in competitive shooting. An interest? Yes.

I've played Big Buck Hunter. Yeah, honestly, they got guys that go hunting on the weekend a bit. That's not the same thing. It is not the same thing. And they didn't have proper equipment either. Instead, forced to use rifles, totally unsuitable for the purpose of targeted and focused shooting. And they couldn't communicate with each other because they've got no radios, and they weren't given specific targets each.

They were just told when the first person opens fire, everyone just starts shooting. Usually you'd go, I'll take the leader, you take this person. Yeah, you'd be able to communicate with each other at the very least. Yeah, but it's like Big Buck Hunter, basically. Just have a go. They should be talking into their wrists. Yes. Pulling up to the ear, pushing it's like Big Buck Hunter, basically. Just have a go. They should be talking into their wrists. Yes.

Pulling up to the ear, pushing it in a little bit. Delta, go for. Stuff like that. Stuff like that. Go ahead, Delta. Go for Delta. Goodrum. Delta, what are you doing here?

I'm very good at Big Buck Hunter. Yeah, she's a national champ. Get her in. We've got to get Delta in. Behind those innocent eyes, she's a national champ. Get her in. Behind those innocent eyes are some... She's seen some things. So there's four... I was born to try, you were born

to die. What a line! That's a good line from Delta. Da-da-da-da-da-da. So there's four snipers on the control tower and one lying on the ground. But then, to add to their woes, the helicopters landed in the wrong spots. this left the ground-based sniper not only useless but actually in the firing line of the other four oh my god so he had to take cover to avoid being shot himself

because none of them had been supplied with bulletproof vests or steel helmets to protect their heads and because the helicopters are in the wrong... Where the terrorists get out now, he's going to be shot at if he doesn't just lie down and try not to get hit. So now you have four shitty snipers trying to take care of eight heavily armed terrorists. That's two each. The one who lay down, he was also the best shooter, probably.

Yeah, of course. Oh, no, a lead guy. Issa and another terrorist left the helicopter to inspect the plane but found it deserted. They yelled back to the rest of the men in the helicopters of the betrayal. They're like, there's no pilot here. It's a setup. And suddenly the airport was lit up by floodlights

and the snipers began shooting. Well, a few of them did. The guy on the ground was in the wrong spot, didn't fire a single shot, and another of the snipers was moving positions at the crucial time it all started. So he missed his shot on Issa the leader who made it back to the cover of the helicopters unscathed. So they had a chance to take him out, missed it.

He's like, I'm just a bit uncomfy. I'm just going to move, change positions. Pins and needles. Yeah. The second sniper seriously wounded Issa's deputy, but the rest of Black September started firing back heavily. One of the snipers then shot and killed a terrorist. So they were just 30 yards or 27 metres away from their targets

and they only hit two. Oh, I didn't realise how close they are. Yeah, it's quite close. Wow. And they're up on an elevator position. But, yeah, they just, you know, I can't really hold it against the guys. They're not trained for this situation. No, no, no.

They shouldn't be in this situation. They just didn't have anyone else. But the whole thing is just shambles. Oh, absolute schmoz. So two taken out, six still shooting. A German policeman was killed standing near the tower when a stray bullet struck him. He's just standing near the tower.

Yeah. I'm sure. The Israeli hostages were all tied together in the helicopters and had to sit there like sitting ducks whilst the firefight broke around them remember the armored vehicles that was supposed to rush in to protect them well it turns out the police had forgotten to order them and it was only 20 minutes after the shooting began that they radioed back to munich for them to be sent and munich is already 30 kilometers away but to make it worse when german locals heard about the events because it's huge news story thousands got into their cars to have a look at what was going on to have a look

so wild isn't it just insane to me but so many people did this that they completely clogged the roads and the armored rescue vehicles and other police and rescue trucks were stuck in traffic and couldn't get close to the airport it took another hour for the rescue vehicles to get there, one hour and 20 minutes after the shooting started, but this time most of the fighting was over. Realising it's a disaster, someone went to the top of the building and tried to negotiate with the terrorists through a speaker system, speaking to them in Arabic,

but they replied by opening fire on the building. So they were like, you've screwed us over. Why would we trust you now? Yeah, we're not going to trust you. Time magazine writes that a police, quote, special unit, helicoptered in about an hour after the shooting began, for some reason landed at the far end of the airfield, nearly two kilometres from the action, and was never deployed.

So wild. After over an hour of fighting, one of the terrorists tried to make a break for it and ended up running towards the fifth sniper, the guy lying on the tarmac that's done nothing the sniper then fired his only shot to the night point blank into that man's face okay so he probably was the best shot yeah got him but then some police who had just arrived on the scene had no idea of the the sniper's positions because no one's been told about any of this mistook sniper number five and the helicopter pilot lying beside him had taken cover as terrorists and opened fire on them,

seriously wounding both men. Are you fucking kidding me? So, yeah, they were able to shoot someone, their own guys. Oh, my God. So the plan had gone so horribly wrong. Nothing went right. You're right. This is so frustrating.

It's so upsetting, isn't it? So frustrating. But despite this, at midnight, a German spokesperson addressed the media and said, quote, all the Israelis have been saved and all the terrorists are dead, and the police action was described as a success, which was not at all true at that stage. Right.

Just issued a false statement. Yeah. Either miscommunication or they've got no idea what's going on. They're bluffing. I don't know why, but they just release false information no one had been saved and only a few terrorists were dead at that point and tragically this gave false hope to the hostages loved ones at home who were desperate for any news and newspapers were immediately printed especially across israel saying all saved what all saved because that's what they heard why would

they do that because because the german official came out and said that. I don't know. No, but why would the German official? I don't know. Then over the next few hours, new information kept coming to light from the Olympics saying, we're afraid the information we've given so far is too optimistic. It just kept getting worse and worse and worse every hour. Tragically, it did not end anything like that early report.

After almost two hours of fighting, one of the Palestinian terrorists threw a hand grenade into one of the helicopters, which was full of fuel and exploded, and all four Israelis on board died. So he just went, fuck this, and killed all the guys. Awful. At the same time, one of the other terrorists unloaded a full clip from his machine gun into the other helicopter, callously murdering the five men inside.

So all of the hostages were killed. Oh, my God. As were all but three of the terrorists, leaving three who were arrested, Mohamed Safadi, Adnan Algashi and Jamal Algashi. But it was a fucking schmuzzle. The incompetence is astounding, but the truth is they just were not ready for anything like this. Of course.

Reporter Jim McKay, who I mentioned earlier, he delivered a famous line about the event when relaying the final truth, the shocking news. not ready for anything like this of course reporter jim mckay who i mentioned earlier he delivered a famous line about the event when relaying the final truth the shocking news he said when i was a kid my father used to say our greatest hopes and our worst fears seldom realized our worst fears have been realized tonight they've now said there are 11 hostages two were killed in their rooms yesterday morning nine were killed at the airport tonight. They're all gone. Oh, my God. Awful.

So that's how it ended. A ceremony was held at the Olympic Stadium that morning, called by the IOC to demonstrate the Olympic ideal is stronger than terror and violence. It was attended by 80,000 spectators and 3,000 athletes. And soon afterwards, again, controversially, competition continued. They just did the rest of the games bloody hell surely today it's just games over right well yeah you think surely you'd hope how do you keep going how do you keep going it's very tricky some people would

say hey we can't let you stop the olympics the terrorists win yeah but yeah how do you keep doing sport after that i don't know the remaining israel olympians were sent home on an order by prime minister mir and they withdrew from the rest of the games and flew home with their dead they were all buried in israel except for the u.s born david berger whose body was returned to the united states on an air force jet personally ordered by president nixon berger is buried at the mayfield cemetery in his hometown of cleveland the german government allowed the bodies of the dead terrorists to be flown to Libya, where they were welcomed by thousands and buried as heroes. So yeah,

they had a very different perspective on the events, but pretty awful stuff. There were instant changes for the Olympics and governments around the world. Germany, which before this point had no specialist anti-terror unit, almost immediately created one called the GSG-9 police unit. France, Britain, and the US followed with similar forces as part of their police or military. So before, this stuff just didn't really happen. Yeah. At the next Olympics in 1976 in Montreal,

they spent 50 times more on security than Munich had spent, and that has only increased over the years. China spent an estimated $6.5 billion on security than Munich had spent and that has only increased over the years China spent an estimated 6.5 billion dollars on security alone for the 2008 Beijing Olympics in 1984 at the LA Olympics four sharpshooters were posted on the four corners of a building opposite the pool and snipers were just scanning through their sights the whole time, 24-7 at the Olympics. Oh, wow. That is scary. Yeah. But it just became a- Just a person, little flick of the finger and-

Yeah. Wow. It's one of those things, though, where it's like, you know, one of those events where the innocents died that day. Yeah. For 40 years, Anki Spitzer, who was widow of Andre Spitzer, the fencing coach, she petitioned the Olympics to acknowledge the murdered Israelis

at subsequent Olympics, pushing for a minute's silence. This became a worldwide campaign for London 2012, 40 years after the massacre. What? They didn't do anything the next Olympics? No, and even in 2012, the IOC refused. Why? Anki Spitzer was quoted in The Guardian at the time saying,

the IOC says it's not in the protocol of the opening ceremony to have a commemoration. Well, my husband coming home in a coffin was not in protocol either. This was the blackest page in Olympic history. These 11 athletes were part of the Olympic family. They were not accidental tourists. They should be remembered as part of the Olympic framework. But Jacques Rogge, you mentioned before, the IOC president said it would be inappropriate. Although the opening ceremony included a memorandum for the victims of the London bombings from 2005. I don't understand why.

Surely that would be the thing you do at the very next Olympics. Of course. Apparently part of the fight against it was the fear of how other Middle Eastern nations would respond. Jesus Christ. In 1976, when they first pushed for acknowledgement, Anki Spitzer says, They told us very clearly there are 21 Arab delegations that will leave if we say something about the Israeli athletes. So I said, let them leave if they can't understand what the Olympics are all about.

A connection between people through sport. Which, you know, I'm like, alright, I agree with that. On the 3rd of July 2016, just two days prior to the start of the 2016 Summer Olympics, the International Olympic Committee officially honoured the Israelis killed for the first time. And in the 2020 Summer Olympics, which is 2021, a moment of silence was observed in the opening ceremony a year before its 50th anniversary, and all of the victims

were finally named. This was the first time in history this happened in the opening ceremony, but it took 50 years. Why did they change their minds? It was just a new ISA boss? Oh, I think it's just pressure is built over time. It's like, come on, we have to do this. Oh, my God.

Basically, each time a new Olympics would come around, a petition would start again. It just got more and more and more. Yeah. Wow. It just feels, I don't know, I might be being naive, but it feels like I don't think any, surely other nations wouldn't be like,

wouldn't agree that those people, athletes didn't deserve to die. No. Well, you'd think that. But, yeah, and like she said, it's just against the Olympic spirit. Come on. Like you say, I mean, the whole thing is very complex, but I don't think there's anything complex about killing people in cold blood at an Olympic Games. Yeah.

Or, you know, anywhere, really. Yeah. But it was at the Olympics, so surely surely the next olympics you commemorate them because it happened at the olympics well what about the three black september terrorists that survived and were arrested on the day you think they'd go to jail forever right well their story was really only just beginning that's right this is an epic two-part episode i could keep talking but we'd be here forever so instead we'll'll split it to two. Two forevers. We'll be here for good.

On next week's episode, there will be more hijackings, spies, bombings, murder squads, and more. All part of Israel's two-decade quest for vengeance. That's next week on Do Go On when we talk about Operation Wrath of God. Holy shit. Oh my god. Yeah, it's just an epic topic. I didn't realise when I first started writing, but I was like, this has got to be in two parts.

Wow. Okay. Well, let's strap in for next week then. Yeah, get ready. Could we have a little break though? Because that was a lot to take in. That was a lot. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show

where we get to thank some of our fantastic supporters who are on board via patreon.com. There's a bunch of different levels, all sorts of different rewards you can get, including bonus episodes. You can vote for topics like many of our supporters voted on this topic today. You also get to, if you are in the Sydney Schoenberg level, get to give us a fact, a quote, or a question

in a section that I like to call Fact, Quote, or Question. It has a jingle, I think, that goes something like this. Fact, quote, or question. Ding. He always remembers the ding, and she always remembers the sing. And the way this works is if you are on the Sydney Schoenberg level, you get to give us fact, quote, or question, or a brag, or a suggestion, really whatever you like.

You also get to give yourself a title, and I'll read four out each week. Well, you say you read four out, but I feel like your voice is suffering a little bit this week. Are you up for taking over? That would be fantastic. Would you mind if I did a sub in here? I also have not read these before I read these out, as you never do. Oh, that was a confusing sentence.

I also have not read these, as you have not read these, but doobie-doo. Jess has read these out as you never do. Oh, that was a confusing sentence. I also have not read these as you have not read these, but as doobie-doo. Jess has read these. I've read these. So if you don't mind, Matt. I'd love you to take over. My throat is feeling shredded, like really fit. So you've been lifting weights with your tonsils.

Doing throaties. Some of those. Yeah. Well, first cab off the rank in our fact quota question I would like to say hello to Paul Meller aka old man from Oldham we met Paul I think we met Paul a few times but on our recent

trip to the UK Dave it was great to see you there Paul he gave me an Oldham hat. And a few, we got Oldham Christmas tree decorations as well. Yeah. From his beloved Oldham Football Club. Go Oldham. He's also jumped on board the Saints.

He's the Saints man. He watches games from England. He likes double the punishment. Poor guy. Back a winner, Paul. All right. Thanks so much, Paul, who's given us a question this week. So again, have not

read this, so let's put the glasses on here, Dave. Let's have a go. So, 2023 is the year I turn 50. Jeez, he looks good. Paul, bloody hell. Jeez, I would have taken a decade at least off you, mate. Well done. 2023 is the year I turn 50, and my wife and daughter have asked what I want to do

to celebrate. I.e., is there anything on my bucket list sounds like they're preparing for my death anyway i'm toying with the idea of a trip to australia we have never been and it sounds awesome so my question to you is what convincing reasons can i give them to win them over one reason i was going to give was i wanted to see the Saints play live, but I'm not 100% convinced they'll want us to do this. Thanks for all the great podcasts and all the best for 2023. Cheers, Paul. Paul, if you come over for your 50th, I will go to the game with you for sure. Let us know.

That sounds awesome. Apart from that, Melbourne is pretty quiet. I'd go see a crocodile somewhere up in Northern Territory. Yeah'd go see a crocodile somewhere up in northern territory yeah go see a crocodile you know if you're coming to australia like melbourne and sydney and stuff are pretty much just cities like most yeah but if you come in a sunnier time that could be appealing to an english family oh yeah potentially i mean sydney's beautiful yeah so is melbourne oh melbourne you know it's beautiful in its own way you know when you go to a new city and like the things that you find interesting are that like their crosswalks have a funny sound or whatever you know like yes i'm sure we've got some stuff here that you're like huh that's cute

shelbyville's got you know yellow fire hydrants yeah exactly you could go see some koalas oh yeah you know i've never seen one in the world haven't't you? No. Oh, you've never lived. Oh, you must. I've seen most of them. I've seen a wombat. I've seen an echidna. I've seen a platypus. The most recent wombat I saw was dead on the road. Made me real sad.

Oh, I love a wombat. Yeah, but you should see the other guy. Yeah, that car is mangled. We can put it at the top of the list. Great wildlife. There's cool stuff, especially overseas people find it fascinating. Yeah. Love it.

We've got great animals, pretty good weather. Great scenery. Great scenery. Drive the Great Ocean Road. I feel like there's something for everyone. If you're going to go over to Perth, beautiful beaches 24-7. You go to Queensland, beautiful beaches 24-7 in a different way, more of a tropical.

Yeah, you've got the rainforest and stuff up there. Yeah, rainforest up there, the Great Barrier Reef, one of the seven natural wonders of the world. See it before it's bleached. Exactly. Go to Darwin. You know, it just feels like it's an entirely different place. Yeah.

The weather and everything feels very different. Yeah, go see the Saints in Melbourne. Yeah, that's an experience. At the MCG, that's great. Comedy Festival time as well maybe is a good time to come to Melbourne. Although the weather isn't that nice there. It depends. It can be all right. Yeah, Comedy Festival is a good time to come to Melbourne. Although the weather isn't that nice there. It depends. It can be all right.

Yeah, Comedy Festival is a great time to be in Melbourne. Yeah, I feel like there's always something to do. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't think we've solved that very well. You could get a job. Yeah, you could come get a job. Then you definitely have something to do.

Yeah. Try a pie, Paul. We can give you the stupid old tour. There's the studio. It's very short. It's short, isn't it? Yeah, then we'll kick the footy in the car park. It's a very small car park.

It's a small car park. We'll have to go out into the street. The stupid old tour does cost $1,000. So, Paul, I really hope you can come over with the fam. It'll be great. Next up, I'd like to say hello to Peter Atkin, a.k.a. Chief Minister for Being Stressed When Trying to Give Oneself a Title for an Australian Podcast.

I can imagine that would be stressful. We've got another question here from Peter. Hey, guys. I'm typing this on the 1st of January, so Happy New Year to you guys. On that note, my question is, what are your New Year's resolutions? And as we always ask, Peter has answered the question for himself here what's peter's to answer for myself i normally don't bother because it feels pointless but i've been accused of being a miserable ass so this year i've come up with a challenge to watch 100 movies

and read 25 books in 2023 oh hopefully this can help me spend my downtime more enjoyable than doom scrolling social media. Thanks for an amazing 2022 podcast. And, Peter, I'm with you. My resolution, less time on social media. That's a great one. Yeah, I've deleted all the apps off my phone. For someone who wants to spend less time on social media,

you're very bad at social media. Am I? Yeah. When am I bad? You're always like, what's TikTok? I don't know what this is. How do I see my messages on Instagram? I mean, these trillion dollar apps, they're always designed so badly.

It's like a supermarket. They put the milk at the back. It's the same with apps. Oh, when you get to the DMs, you've got to go through the freaking reels. That's right. You've got to go through the reels. 100 movies and 25 books. That's a good effort.

That's some really consistent movie watching and reading, you know? That's so many. I think that's a great idea. That's two movies a week. You're still getting your downtime, a bit of mindless stuff, but yeah. Love that. That's a great call. I would not be able to do it, but I love the idea.

My other one was I sign up for French lessons. Okay. Which I have done. I don't have to do the lessons, but I've now signed up for them. That's good. So you ticked it off. Yeah, starting in a couple of weeks. Like an in-person class kind of thing?

In-person class, yeah. Great. Absolute base introductory level. Of course. Yeah, I'm going to give it a go. Why not? Ten lessons. First step, laughing in French.

Have a go. Oh, my God. He's going to be top of the class. You're well on your way. I'm so proud of you already. That's great. That's a good goal. So, yeah, something.

How about you guys? Anything? I want to get flexible. Oh, yeah. I'm very inflexible, you know, physically. I mean, you know, socially and morally. Incredibly rigid. But, no, yeah, I just want to be able to, you know, socially and morally very. But no, yeah, I just want to be able to, you know,

be a bit more loosey-goosey. Maybe take up yoga or something. Calisthenics, is that something? Yeah, that's a thing. I probably won't be taking that up. No, I don't think you should do that. I just want to take up stretching, basically. Yeah.

Do it. I mean, I stretch every night before bed, as you guys know, and I can now touch my toes and i love it that's clever yeah i can nearly touch my knees when i'm sitting down if you keep doing every night before bed honestly in a year's time and you wake up feeling a bit better too my legs just get sore otherwise can i get you two to hold me accountable to this i stretch you every night can i get you to dave to help keep me accountable to this? I'm trying to touch my toes by the end of the year. Okay.

You've got to go, how are you going with this? You've got to do it. And if not, I'll put you on the rack and make you do it. Yeah, great. And it'll hurt. Do you need him to message you every night? No, no. He just has to check in.

Check in every night. Okay. I can do that as well. Check in towards the end of the year. What about, night, Dave, toes touched, love, Matt. Every night. Every night. Is that too much to ask?

Well, it won't be that for quite a few months, I don't think. It'll be ankles touched. Knees touched. Yeah, that's great. Anything, Jess, for you? Nothing. Yours are good. Mine are just like move a bit more consistently and actually have days off.

That's my goal. Love it. Have days off. You failed today, but tomorrow is another day. No, this is back to work tomorrow, but that's okay. Mate, there's always a day after that. Yeah. Which you're working.

Is working. But then there's Monday. Monday's going to be a day off. Monday, that's your Saturday. It is my Saturday. Peter, I hope you've started watching movies. You don't want to get to December 31st and you're like, I have to watch 97 movies today. But, yeah, that idea, I hope you've started watching movies. You don't want to get to December 31st and you're like, I have to watch 97 movies today.

But, yeah, that idea, I like that idea. I want to read some books and I'm reading a book at the moment and I want to, you know, I'll always watch some movies. But, yeah, I just want to do way less of the doom scrolling. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just not good for me. I spend too much time on TikTok.

Less of that. Less of that. Less of that. Less of that. Less of that. I would also like to say hello to Susie Darrow from Sacramento. Ooh. Great name. The capital of California where the Kings reign. Correct.

Susie, Sacramento. An existing NBA team. Yeah. That's right. We acknowledge you. Susie Darrow, giving themselves the title of Official Dog Breed Identifier Oh I like that

That's a skill Was it in this episode That you talked about the Dash Hound Yes It was Because there Some people call it a Dachshund

As well don't they That's right Or a sausage dog Yeah It's all the same dog Is that right There's only one There's only one in the world

Probably on this Three names One dog I sit in the park all Probably on this. Three names, one dog. I see it at the park all the time. That's crazy. Wow. Yeah, Ben Russell owns it.

I've got a whole bunch of questions this week. This one question is from Susie. Hi, I love the show. I sent one in a while back that you read out about Matt's laugh, and I really love listening to it. My question is, do any of you three have a non-Australian podcast that you enjoy? I'll give you an answer. As is customary, I love Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet. It's an American podcast where two siblings dramatically read ridiculous one-star reviews.

It's hilarious and a good distraction, just like your show. Oh, that sounds great. Lots of love, Susie. Oh, I'm pretty sure my sister-in-law loves this show. That sounds so good. She's read me out a few of the reviews. They are very funny. That sounds so funny.

I love it a lot. That sounds really, really good. Do you guys have- I'm scrolling through. Nearly all of them are Australian, but I've been listening to Niner's Nation podcast, a 49ers fan podcast. Oh, cool. They do multiple episodes a week.

Also, Comedian's Comians comedian podcast with stu goldsmith listen to on and off which is you know it's just i enjoy that too yeah chat with a stand-up comedian each week conan i come in and out of i'm the same with conan i think it's usually if i if you know i know the guest which probably shouldn't be probably not the best way to consume it yeah i'm in and out of all of these, to be honest. I don't – I'm not – for some reason I'm – I think it's because I'm reading a book at the moment is when I would normally be listening to podcasts at night.

Yeah, yeah. And I haven't been running as much as I used to. That's another thing I want to do a bit more exercise this year. It's pretty stock standard. Yeah. Or like Adam Buxton's podcast where he interviews people. Goes for a ramble. Goes for a ramble.

Yeah, I got into it. I listened to a bunch of that not too long ago. I mean, I love the Alan Partridge podcast. Oh, my God, yes. Some of the best. From the Alst House. From the Alst House. Alst House.

And still loving Hardcore History. New one's gone out. I mean, they only go out maybe two episodes a year, or in 2022 it looks like one episode went out. Wow. Because you put so much research in. But a new one came out this week. How long are the episodes?

The one that came out this week is five hours, 11 minutes. What the fuck? So he basically writes an audio book and then reads the audio book, or, you know, riffs an audio book. And it's interesting that he, yeah, he could just make that a season of five or six episodes that he, yeah, he could just make that a season of five or six episodes. But, yeah, he chooses just to do it in one hit.

The long form suits him, I guess. The first time I listened to it, I was staying at my friend's place outside of Paris and I'm like, I was jet lagged, couldn't quite get back in sync. And I'm like, I'm going to listen to this long history podcast. This will get me to sleep. And the sun came up and i'm still listening to it you're still gripped i'm gripped but i'm also annoyed at myself that i because he

tells the story so vividly and um yeah i've listened to that in ages but it's a great podcast but yeah so just anything from you obviously stuff no i tend to um i'm going through an audiobooks phase at the moment so i'm not listening to as many podcasts and i tend to – I'm going through an audiobooks phase at the moment, so I'm not listening to as many podcasts. And I tend to listen to podcasts on, like, road trips, and I haven't been on any for a little while. So there's stuff that I've listened to ages ago. Like, I loved S-Town, and I like those kind of story and the kind of – I don't know.

Like, it's not overseas. It is an Australian one, but the stuff like Finding Drago and that kind of investigative, the stuff that's really gripping. You love the Ape Titty Slide saga. Yes, yeah, a big fan of Ape Titty Slide, but it is Australian, so I couldn't mention it on this one. But I like the idea of those one-star reviews.

That sounds up my alley. Oh, hey, I love that movie. That's a podcast from England about movies they watched when they were kids and they're revisiting them and see if they hold up, which is pretty fun. Oh, yeah, that's good. Oh, I also love Lawmen, the show that Matt and I were on. Oh, yeah, that's a good show. SciGuys as well.

Yeah, love both of those. Very interesting. I like interesting but funny. Kind of what we're trying to do here, I guess. What we're trying to do, but listen to the shows that achieve it. Lawmen and Sci Guys. Yeah. I enjoy listening to those week to week.

Thanks, Susie. And finally, we've got Logan Husky here, president of Random Things I've Learned From TV. Love that, Mr. President. I love the name Logan Husky here, president of Random Things I've Learned From TV. Ooh. Love that, Mr. President. I love the name Logan Husky so much. Love that. And Logan's given a quote. Hi, guys, for my FQOQ. I've stumbled across the rare triple header.

It is a quote that is both a fact and a question, so it really feels like I'm getting my money's worth here. From one of my all-time favourite TV shows, The West Wing. Great. Season one. Yes. Episode six. Okay. Mr Willis of Ohio.

During a friendly game of poker, President Bartlett proclaims that, quote, there are three words in the English language and three words only that begin with the letters DW. Can you name them? Dwight. Dwayne. Dwindle. Oh, that feels right. For a hint for one of them and a further quote,

witches brew a magic spell in an enchanted forest where fairies dwell. Dwell. Dwell. Dwindle, dwell. And dwindex. Get it like windex. That's good. I don't know if it is.

Dwa. Dwayne. Dwown. Dwarf. Dwarf. Fantastic. Holy shit, Bob. We've done it.

Bing, bing, bing. Dwindle, dwarf, dwell. Thank you so much. And dwown. I didn't get that in for some reason. I'm dwowning. I'm dwowning here. Oh, help me.

I'm dwowning. As always, thanks for a cracking podcast. It is always a great start to the week when I see a new ep pop up in my feed. Can't wait to see a live show up in here in Brisbane in the new year from Logan. Cheers, Logan. Thank you, Logan. I just want to say I got dwindled pretty quickly. A little too quickly.

Do you remember that episode of West Wing? I don't remember the poker game. There's a lot of impactful moments in the West Wing, though. Very dialogue-heavy show, thanks, Aaron Sorkin. But to get a fact-quota question in one here. Aaron Sorkin here. That's impressive, though. Fact-quota question in one here.

Are we doing a show in Brisbane in the new year? Maybe. Great. Have we booked that in? No. That's impressive though Are we doing a show in Brisbane in the new year? Maybe Great Have we booked that in? No Makes it sound like you had tickets already Have we booked that in? I mean we should do

We should do And we will do Hey the next part of the show is where we like to thank a few more of our fantastic Patreon supporters We give these people a shout out And usually Jess comes up with a bit of a game. Look, pretty heavy topic. I think let's play it safe and say what Olympic sport they're participating in. Oh, good stuff.

What are they representing their country in? Okay. Can be winter or summer sport. Fantastic. Okay. Sitting in this hot pod studio right now, I'd love a winter sport. Okay. I think my brain's going for snowball fight okay well like shut up and we'll do it we'll use that don't waste it you know

waste it it's not waste i'll just do it for the first one don't waste you say the name i'll say snowball fight okay well you usually start well should i yeah well i'd love to kick it off uh and if i could thank from ellentonton in Florida in the United States, it's Joshua Brownell. What sport is Joshua playing, Matt? Luge. Ah, yes. Luge is fun.

He's a luge champion. Is that like tobogganing, fast tobogganing? Yeah, lying down. Yes. I love those ones. Those ones are ridiculous. Dave and I, when we were in the UK, Yes.

I love those ones. Those ones are ridiculous. Dave and I, when we were in the UK, watched a lot of old clips of Roy and HG on the iStream. Yes, there's some great stuff on YouTube. And it was Dave initiating the watching of that? I think it was, actually. So, the first night, Matt puts it on, and I'm gripped. I've never seen it before.

It's so funny because you've been quoting it all day. I'm like, oh, let's watch one of the clips. Then night after night, we come back from the gig. It's quite late. We put on a bit of Roy and HG, maybe order a pizza, and we're just watching. They are so funny. So funny.

We change a few algorithms as we travel around the UK. Yeah, every smart TV has been ruined. But, yeah, they had some great ones on the bobsled, especially just talking about... Basically, they jump in. No, that was the luge, I think. The one where there's... Now you'll see they go to sleep.

Now they have to go to sleep till the end, basically. They're just lying down there. The one where there's one lying on top of another person, basically. Yeah, like double luge. Yeah, two people. Oh, my gosh. Two-man luge. Looks so uncomfortable.

But Joshua Brownwell. Or Brownell. Brownell. Brownell. brown now brown now brown now it's weasel and i'd also love to thank well this person address unknown can only assume from somewhere deep within the fortress of the moles i'd love to thank brian atti brian atti Brian Atty is, of course. Gymnast. A gymnast. Specializing in. The rings. Oh, yeah.

Love that. Gosh, those guys have the biggest guns. Yeah. I learned the other day that you'll see them, like, they go up on the rings and they sort of flatten their hands out. Yeah. And the reason they do that is to show the judges that they're not leaning on their wrist. That it is entirely in their, yeah. Wow like leaning on their wrist that is entirely in there yeah wow that is wild that is entirely in their hands yeah it's wild so it's all in their arms

it's got to be the most olympic of sports as well you know the rings the olympics the rings and then they're uh working on the what about the gymnastics uh the you know when they're doing artistic gymnastics they've got the rings oh it's all around or that one with the ribbon and they're twirling it looks like rings. Yeah. Love the ribbon. I'd be really proud of myself if I was a ribbon gymnast. I'd love to be able to flutter my way to gold. Yeah.

I've given it a crack. Have you? Oh, yeah, of course. You must. Every little girl gets a ribbon at some point. These days, you know, everyone gets a participation award ribbon. Kids are these bloody doves. I'd also love to thank from Hexham in Great Britain, Chris Short.

Chris Short is, of course, fantastic at the heptathlon. Oh. heptathlon. Oh! Which is all six, five, eight, seven. Seven events.

That's right, isn't it? Oh my god, I'm really... These are the events. Go through them, please. Seven events, okay. We are looking at 100 metre hurdles, high jump, shot put, 200 metre sprint, sprint long jump javelin throw 800 meters jack of all trades kind of event yeah geez you said that with a real wet mouth dave and you know i've got a dry sorry i'm showing off here absolutely rubbing it in um can i thank some people as

well please do i would love to thank from cork in ireland colm o'leary colm o'leary when the cork what are you thinking when i think cork i think uh the famous dennis committee commentary line in the afl he bobbed up like a cork in the ocean oh and that just makes me think of triathlon you got the boy you know that boy bobbing in the ocean, they got to swim around? Oh, yeah. Column. Triathlete. Triathlete. Cool.

Triathlete, love it. I would also love to thank from Caulfield North in Victoria, Laura Brayshaw. Archery. Oh, how very Robin Hood. Yeah, and the thing about Laura is she won by splitting an arrow. Yeah. Wow.

On her knee. Pretty wild stuff. Basically, it was very unsportsmanlike. Real tantrum. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But unfortunately, that was the competitor's only other arrow. So Laura won by default.

And I would also love to thank, again, from deep within the Fortress of the Moles, Tiffany Jane. Tiffany Jane. Tiffany Jane. jane was so good jess all you're about to say you knew as well as i did yeah it's the snowboarding yeah love that half pipe yep or death does some flips is that the motto that was yeah that's pretty badass it you think about it. It's very badass. She's got it written underneath. Very sick. So when she does a cool flip thing, everyone can see that.

Some cool slow motion shots of that. That's badass. Badass. Dave, do you want to thank some people? I would love to thank, from Hearn Hill in Victoria, Jess Green. Jess Green. Great first name, great last name. What about Jess Green tearing it up on the table tennis court.

Ping pong. Ping pong. Ping pong. Game, set, match. Jess Green. Yeah, that's good stuff. She ponged on. She ponged hard and she ponged right.

And she ponged true. Jess Green. It's a little early for this, but yes, queen. Jess Green. Warming up for the next section of the thing. We've got only Jess Green. Finally, well, not finally, actually. right i mean she ponged true jess green it's a little early for this but yes queen jess green warming up for the next section of the thing we've got any just green finally well not finally actually i'd like to thank from london in ontario canada i believe this is from london hey that's brendan charles brendan charles bc Brendan Charles.

BC. Know what I mean? Yeah, BC. What's that skiing where they just go down a really steep hill, a slope, and then they go like... The knees go up all the time. And they just sort of fly through the air for a bit. Oh, and it's like sort of distance. Yeah, yeah.

Like Eddie the Eagle. Eddie the Eagle. What's that? I think it was like long jump. Long ski? Long ski. Let me look up Eddie the Eagle. Ski jumper.

Is it just ski jumping? According to Google, actually, I'm just trying to prove I'm not a robot for a second here. Only a robot would want to find out what Eddie the Eagle's event was. I think it's called ski jumping. Ski jumper. Yeah, it's a groan. And just that...

Yeah, and the way that they spread their skis. It looks so funny. You can tell they're flexible. Yeah, because they're like almost horizontal. I mean, yeah, look at this photo. Wild stuff. They're basically lying down while standing up. I could do that, I reckon.

I could do that. So all the flexibility there is sort of in the ankle region. I guess so. They sort of somehow bent their shin. Those hammies have got to be real bendy. And I have got the opposite of that. I would think I'm doing that, but I'd look at it and it would be a full right angle, my body to the skis.

And finally, I'd like to thank from Manchester. This is crazy. Manchester, but in the United States. What? Living in New Hampshire, Emily Path. Emily Path. Emily Path. It's got to be Olympic walking, doesn't it? Yeah, it's got to be. Yeah. The race walking. Yeah, yeah. God, they look silly. It's got to be Olympic walking, doesn't it?

Yeah, it's got to be. Yeah. The race walking. Yeah, yeah. God, they look silly. It's all in the

hips. All in the hips. I do that so often. I've never done it properly, but I do it so often. It's so fun to do.

It's odd just to get the arms moving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doing a bit of the chicken dance going. There's a great Rampaging Roy Slavin rant on one

of the episodes of The dream where he's saying that an aussie was ripped off because the whoever won gold was cheating and he and he had some runners up on the table saying there's always got to be a heel or a toe on the ground and this is what they're doing you can see that's great that's funny stuff and emily path getting the gold medal thank you so much to emily brendan jess, Laura, Colm, Chris, Brian, and Joshua. Dave, what's the last thing we need to do? The final thing is to induct anyone that needs to be inducted into the Triptych Club. These people have been supporting the show on the shout-out level or above for three consecutive years.

And to enshrine them in glory, we induct them into our clubhouse our hall of fame our hangout zone exclusive to these people uh and we uh yeah we welcome them in just the one this week oh just one just one on the list and uh jess usually she's behind the bar well this is disappointing because i was gonna you know i'm gonna put on a real spread we've got one person coming in no everyone else is already in there they're not allowed to leave one new person one new person oh One new person. Oh, come on. The people from last week and before that,

they're still worthy of your excitement. I don't know if they are. No, they are. And this week I've got a real classic German spread of currywurst, schnitzel, et cetera. Oh, wow. I'm looking forward to that, etc. Big, big fat juicy sausages. And big ol' beers.

Oh, yeah. One litre o' beer, please. You have to order it like that. You have to come up and say, hey, Jess, I was wondering if I could please get a big ol' beer. If you just say, could I get a big beer, please? I'll say, sure, but you won't get a big ol' beer. I could picture you serving out like

Eight steins at a time You know Those Tough armed Yeah Waiters over in Germany Yeah

In Bavaria Yep I could do that You could do that easy right Easy Yeah With my legs Yeah yeah

A with your legs And then you know Your arms are free For another eight Yeah Easy peasy No worries at all 16 steins at a time

16 steins And Dave you normally Book a band Oh you're never Going to believe What have you done Your arms are free for another eight. Yeah, easy peasy. No worries at all. 16 signs at a time. 16 signs. And Dave, you normally book a band? Oh, you're never going to believe. What have you done? You're never going to believe. Who I've possibly booked, you're never going to believe. You're saying possibly. You're not sure they're locked in yet?

Yes. You're never going to believe. I'll believe it. Just say the name and I'll get believing. Obviously, it's a German topic. You're never going to believe this. You haven't got Rammstein, have you? No, I'm afraid they said no.

You know who didn't say no? Did they say? No, they would have said nine. Nine. Kraftwerk. Kraftwerk. Holy shit. Wow.

The Kraftwerk. I'm still working on Rammstein for another week. Great. Oh, my God. Fingers crossed. Kraftwerk. Holy shit. That's exciting.

Do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Is that them? Do, do, do, do, do, do, do. That's not it, I think. All right. So I've got the clipboard. I'm going to read out one name this week. Oh, my goodness.

Dave is on the stage. He's the MC of the night. He's ready to hype them up as they enter the building. Everyone already in. There's probably, I think, maybe they enter the building everyone already in there's probably i think maybe 300 odd people already in they're going to be chanting along clapping cheering uh and jess is going to be tapping dave's butt to calm him down yeah uh you all ready let's rock ready uh dave also just to warn you dave does a bit of weak sort of wordplay work based on their name or their place it's mate rest your Mate, rest your voice, all right?

I just don't want them to be like, what just happened? I think it's- Yeah, it's hard to- These people have been a patron for three years. I think people will- I think they've heard enough of this- How many people are listening to? To know that Dave has always done a great job and will continue to do a great job.

There's some people listening to this since their first episode. And they've listened this far. Yes. And that doesn't mean they know that Dave's about to do it. Just read the name. I've had enough. Okay. All right, here we go.

Hit me. Hit me. Who we got? Who we got here? From Summerland in British Columbia in Canada, it's Joel Tremblay. I feel like I'm in Joel Land. Okay. Summerland? Summerland. Yeah. Joel Trombley. I feel like I'm in Joel Land. Summerland? Summerland.

Yeah. Joel Land. Joel Land. Population day. I'm trombleying with excitement. Oh, that's pretty good, yeah. Are you fucking serious? You went for Joel Land.

I didn't understand it at all. You trombley me like a pack of cards, and I like it. I don't get that one. Play me like a pack of cards. Got it. Okay. Tromplay. Well, Joel, sorry about everything. That's pretty good. Perhaps Matt was right. cards and i like it i don't get that one play me like a pack got it okay trump play well joel sorry about everything that's pretty good perhaps matt was right no don't give in to my team matt

now joel land joel did feel like he had a lot to work with there and that's what he chose i'm not in a pole position i'm in joel position yeah i that's better. I don't like to role play. I like to Joel play. In the bedroom. It's getting worse. Let's move on. It's getting more personal. Anyway, welcome in, Joel.

Make yourself at home. Grab yourself a bratwurst. Yep. And a big old beer. A big old beer. Enjoy that, Joel. And yeah, that brings us to the end of the episode. Is there anything else we need to tell people, Boppa?

That they can suggest a topic. There's a link in the show notes. There's also a link on our website, which is dogoonpod.com, where you can also find info on live shows, previous episodes, all that good fun stuff. And you can find us at dogoonpod across social media as well. And finally, the last thing I need to tell you is that we love you. Absolutely.

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