Do Go On - 380 - Operation Wrath of God
Episode Date: February 1, 2023When the three men arrested for the Munich Massacre are released just weeks after Olympics, the Israeli government authorises Operation Wrath of God, a series of clandestine missions to take retributi...on against a list of targets they deemed responsible for the attack. This episode is part two of episode 379 on The Munich Olympic Massacre.This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 06:03 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodLive show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Our new merch: https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:Our History (2016)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUPr4IEBa0w&t=88s https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-eye-for-an-eye-20-11-2001/https://www.britannica.com/topic/Operation-Wrath-of-God https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillehammer_affair#cite_note-Haaretz-4https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/mar/26/jasonburke.theobserver1 https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220902-wrath-of-god-israel-s-response-to-1972-munich-massacrehttps://web.archive.org/web/20050224132231/http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,946209,00.html Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you.
And we should also say this is 2026.
Jess, what year is it?
2026.
Thank God you're here.
Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna 630 each night at the
Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun.
We'd love to see you there.
Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.
If you somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto
for shows.
That's going to be so much fun.
Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online.
And I'm here too.
Oh, and welcome to another episode of Do Go On.
My name is Dave Warnikey, and as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart.
What?
Matt Stewart is here?
Yeah, I am here.
How good is it to be alive?
Hey, my special is streaming now on the stupid old channel.
Okay, we didn't discuss that we would do plots.
Okay, great.
When you say, what does that mean?
So feel free to keep talking, but I'm going to scream over the top of it.
Please, feel free.
Your stand-up comedy special.
That's right.
Oh, no.
Dave, you were there in the recording.
You actually directed the show that it was.
That's right.
I was the director.
I was the hype man, your warm up guy.
Yeah, you can do it all.
I've been doing it all.
I mean, the bit that there was also a plan to the audience that got cut.
That did get cut.
Because my acting was so bad.
No, I think we cut it because we thought that might make the audience think that the real audience interaction was also a plan.
Yeah, because there was a genuine one that.
It was pretty wild.
And way funnier.
So, yeah, you can.
Check it out on Stupid Old on channel for free
and nearly an hour of stand-up comedy
from Matt Stewart.
Check it out.
Gosh, that's good.
Jess, you're done screaming?
We turned to her micah
as she screamed over that bit.
I hit my throat.
Hey, well,
while Jess rests her throat,
maybe,
I'll ask Matt to explain what this show is.
So how it works is,
the three of us come into a room.
Oh, no.
They've got off to a bedside.
Except one time we've,
twice we did episodes on a beach
entirely.
Yeah, that's true.
All right.
So it's not always in a room.
It's nearly always.
Oh, I forget it, and it's not always just the three of us, but anyway, forget about that.
Usually the three of us get together somewhere and one of us is going away.
Unless we do it remotely.
Unless there's a pandemic that affects two episodes of the show, two years of episodes of the show.
Okay, so that also can happen.
But so somehow, either in the same place or virtually the three of us will come together or others as well.
And one of us will have gone away and researched a topic, written up a bit of an old-school report, you know, like you're doing a high school
oral presentation.
Absolutely.
And then they'll bring it back.
The topics usually decided or suggested by a listener.
And then they bring it back and tell the other two.
And the other two, like, let's be honest, interrupt and be quite tedious and
annoying and go on rifts and stuff.
But we, you know, we're trying to have fun.
That's right.
They bring the lightness.
The lightness.
The lightness often.
That's beautifully put.
And the comfortability.
And we usually start with the question.
Oh yeah.
That's the, yeah.
That's the other thing.
Now this week, it's a bit of a special episode.
For only the third time ever, we've gone with a part two.
My question very openly is, what was last week's episode?
Munich.
It could be anybody.
The 1972 Olympics, Munich Massacre.
Correct.
Last week we spoke about the 1972, Munich Olympics and...
You're fucking nerd.
Teacher, I know the answer.
Let me just go to my notes.
Dave, Dave, love me.
Pathetic.
Yeah.
My favourite is Jess in this class.
Yes!
Because she doesn't want my loss.
I don't care.
I'm aloof.
I'm not doing it for your love, Dave.
I'm doing it because I still imagine that guy is keeping score.
He hasn't contacted us in a long time.
Yeah, he has.
Do you check the emails?
Oh, no, that's good point.
He has.
Oh, great.
And what are the scores at the moment?
I don't know them off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure I'm winning.
Yeah, I was definitely in third place last time.
Were you?
Yeah.
The last time I saw I was winning, but that was years ago.
Yeah, right.
Okay, we'll check later.
Uh, for someone asked a question each week and whoever gets the answer correct,
someone is keeping tabs.
So,
thank you so much.
We appreciate your fantastic work.
So,
yeah,
last week we talked about the 1970s in Munich Olympics and the first half of the episode.
It was fun.
It was jovial.
We talked about all the silly and interesting things that happened to the game.
The mustache man,
Mark Spitz,
the most controversial basketball game ever.
Obviously,
you can go back and listen to the episode if you want a bit more context.
Oh, we also,
so we had some feedback.
It's rare because we don't normally do.
were part two, but...
Yeah, we've got time to set the record straight on something.
I was confused about the ball being thrown in in NBA,
and Rick tweeted me and said,
on the Munich pod, NBA players walk the dog,
a let the ball roll when they are up and want to run out the clock,
because the clock starts when the ball goes in,
but the shot clock doesn't start until a player touches the ball.
So then you run out more than 24 seconds.
Oh, right.
So it's like a funny loophole.
Right.
Because you were confused as to whether the clock starts when the ball is passed in
or whether it's caught or touched by another player.
So one clock starts when the ball's thrown in and another clock starts
when the ball is picked up or caught.
Yeah.
Makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
I like it.
I like how technical sport can be.
It's beautiful.
Part of the strategy.
NFL's wild like that.
The whole thing is the strategy, isn't it?
Yeah, strategic.
and technical.
I'm loving it.
Like a coach on the side doing mathematics to work out.
Yeah, totally.
Amazing.
They're doing probabilities on every play.
It's wild.
Anyway, Dave.
Anyway, so this episode, it's a standalone episode.
You can listen if you just want to hear this part too.
But otherwise, please go back and listen to episode 379.
But as a previously on DoGo 1 refresher.
I love it previously on, unless I'm binge watching a show.
And then I'm like, I know.
I just saw that.
I haven't moved in four hours.
But on a podcast, you know, we're recording a week later, I do need this, thank you.
Okay.
And I like, you know, on those previously on, and then they'll play a clip from ages ago and you're
like, why are you showing me that?
Yeah.
Obviously.
It's going to be relevant.
And so that spoils something.
Yeah, yeah.
Because like, okay, so they're going to address that.
Oh, that guy's back.
Yeah.
Why don't I have to zoom in on that?
Yeah.
That was completely, you know.
I love content to be spoon-fed to me.
Yeah.
I love it.
Me too, actually.
Okay.
So previously on Dugo on, last week, we talked about the Olympics.
and then we talked about the massacre that also occurred at those games.
Eight terrorists from the Palestinian militant group called Black September
snuck into the Olympic village and took 11 Israeli athletes, coaches and officials hostage,
two of whom were soon murdered by the terrorists and scuffles.
They then demanded that 236 prisoners in Israel and around the world be released,
which Israel refused.
Eventually, many hours after an intense standoff,
the West German government that was negotiating with the group,
agreed to fly them to a need.
nearby friendly Arab nation, but the terrorists and the hostages were taken to an airport
in helicopters where they were told they could board a plane, but it was all the set up for
the West Germans who planned to ambush the terrorists and rescue the hostages, but after
a series of incredibly terrible blunders.
Oh, God.
Really hope someone got five for that.
It all went horribly wrong.
All of the hostages were murdered on site, and six of the Palestinians were taken out by
the police, leaving three terrorists alive.
It was the most frustrating thing I've ever heard.
Yeah.
Just every single decision, everything that could go wrong did go wrong.
It was just fuck up after fuck.
Oh, man.
Yeah, and I think you mentioned that someone was saying how you associate Germany with this precision,
but it was the opposite of that.
Absolutely, the absolute opposite of that.
Because, yeah, they just weren't prepared at all.
And it was still in the aftermath of, you know, the World Wars and stuff.
I think they were trying so hard to be peaceful.
Yes, they wanted to be fine.
Overcorrecting.
Yeah.
And yeah, like the first half of the episode last week, it was super fun.
And like, you know, like they dreamed.
Friendly games.
It all came crashing down with this horrible event.
So I said five of the terrorists were taken out leaving three alive, which were arrested.
Now, this episode is all about the aftermath and search for some sort of justice in Operation Rath of God.
Whoa.
That is a pretty badass.
So it's terrifying, isn't it?
If you hear they were after you?
After we recorded part one, I saw my family that night, and I was telling them about, you know, oh, here's this story.
They were alive for it.
So they were like, yeah, we know.
Wow.
Yeah, okay.
And I was like, can you believe this?
Like, yeah, we're alive.
So did they remember all the details and everything?
Oh, yeah, bits and pieces.
But then mum told me something, like a bit of a spoiler for this.
And I was like, great.
Thanks, thanks, Mom.
Spilers.
But now I've forgotten it.
Oh, that's going to be a fun little.
But I remember at the time being like, oh.
Mama!
See if I cover it.
Well, maybe.
I won't know.
So the three members of Black September that survived the attack and were taken into custody were
19-year-old Mohamed Safari, codename Badron.
26-year-old Adnan Al-Gashi, codenamed Danawi.
He was a nursing student who has been identified by Simon Reeve, who wrote a book on
this subject in 2000 called One Day in September, the same name as that Academy Award-Wing documentary,
He's identified Denawi as the man who fired his machine gun into the helicopter
killing the Israelis in cold blood as they were tied together in the helicopter.
But this is debated.
But in his extensive research, he says this guy, Danawi was the one.
And finally, his 19-year-old cousin, Jamal Al-Gashy, codename Samir.
So that two 19-year-olds and a 26-year-old, they're babies.
Absolutely.
They are so young.
Oh, my God.
Super-duper young.
Really full on.
So those three men were arrested.
and were awaiting trial, but just seven weeks after the massacre,
a multi-stop-over Lufthansa Boeing 727 on its way from Damascus in Syria to Frankfurt in Germany
was hijacked by two terrorists as it left Beirut Airport.
That's in Lebanon.
The pilot was told to fly to Munich and the terrorist demands were passed onto the West German government in Bonn.
That's the capital of West Germany.
They wanted the three Black September members released.
and this time the West German government almost immediately complied with the demands.
Really?
German Chancellor Willie Brandt, which is a great name.
Willie Brandt.
I guess he will.
Sounds like he branted the first sign of trust.
He almost immediately gave in and the three men were handed over within hours.
Israel wasn't even consulted.
Wow.
They didn't even let him know.
Jeez.
They just went, oh, okay, I guess this is.
time we'll just let you have what you want. Because last time they sort of, they negotiated for too
long, they thought about it too much and it didn't end well. So now this time they're like,
somebody else's problem. Yeah. And Israel were understandably furious. Yeah.
People that it's not a good precedent to set, is it? Absolutely not. And it's, yeah,
and not even consulting in the country that seven weeks earlier had 11 of their citizens
murdered by these three guys. Yeah. Didn't they say that wasn't that part of what they said
the last one? We can't do it because otherwise every... Yeah, so Goldie me, the
Prime Minister at the time said there won't be an Israeli anywhere in the world can't feel safe.
Yeah.
Because this will just keep happening.
Yeah.
So obviously, that's no good.
But they were like, oh, we don't want this to be our problem anymore.
So I got rid of the three.
And there's actually been numerous questions over the years as to the legitimacy of the hijacking.
There were only 11 passengers on board the plane and they were all men.
No women or children are on board, which some people find suspicious.
Well, they'd already gotten the life roughs.
Yeah.
In mid-air.
Some say that the West German government, and this is like a big theory, this isn't just
a pretty out there conspiracy, some say the West German government had set up the
hijacking to give them the pretense to release the three jailed terrorists to avoid Black
September fulfilling threats to carry out a series of bombings and hijackings whilst their members
were still imprisoned.
Right.
So they were like, West Germany had become a target because they had imprisoned three of their
members and had a lot of threats.
So there's theories that they had a deal with Black September with, hey, if you hijack this plane, we'll release them if you promise never to attack us again.
And they get the pilot they hate the most to make him be on that plane.
Roger.
We got a job for you.
We need you specifically on this plane.
I know it's your day off, but it's important that you fly this plane.
We need the best, Roger.
When we think of the best, we think of you.
We think Roger.
Have me to put their hand over the phone going to.
Shut up, no, shut up.
They chose Roger because he's the most confusing pilot to talk to over the radio.
Roger that, Roger.
What?
Yes.
Come in, Roger?
Yeah?
Yeah.
No, no, I say that when I've heard what you've said, Roger.
Roger, Roger that, Roger.
What?
Very confusing stuff.
So this theory has been supported by many different sources of these that it was a bit of
conspiracy.
The Guardian writes Ulrich Wegner, then a key aide of the interior minister,
and founder of the GSG-9, Germans crack counter-terrorist unit that was soon formed after this,
said Bonn, the capital of West Germany, did not want to risk confronting the Palestinians after the attack on the Olympics.
The West German government had already paid a large $5 million ransom to the terrorists when a Lufthansa plane was earlier hijacked.
So they're very much trying to keep them on side and giving them whatever they want.
So the three released terrorists were allowed to board the hijack plane with the 11 hostages still on.
board. When they landed in Libya, they were interviewed, basically, so they landed in the 11
hostages were allowed to go. And then now the three released Munich Massacre guys were safe.
And when they landed in Libya, the three terrorists were interviewed. And you can see footage
of this press conference. One of them speaks English, I believe. The rest is speaking through
translators. And when asked if they felt their actions had achieved anything, one of the men replied
through a translator saying, we have made our voice heard by the world. They felt that before the
attacked the Palestinian plight and their cause was relatively unknown around the world and after
the Munich massacre, nearly everyone on earth had heard of Palestine and what was going on, the fact that
there was hundreds of thousands of people in refugee camps. The incident gave new attention to the
Palestinian cause. More than a million Palestinians had been refugee since Israel's creation in
1948 and the wars that followed, but global powers had been largely ignoring their plight,
they claimed, but now they felt they could no longer be ignored. Right.
I mean, it's, yeah, how grim is it that they need to feel they need to...
It's awful.
But it's...
Carry out terrorist attacks to get attention to a real issue.
Yeah.
It's a classic example of that famous phrase of one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Yeah.
So, like, you know, they're being condemned in most places around the world,
but like I said last week, when the bodies of their comrades were flown to Libya,
they were welcomed as heroes.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, the attack also showed that global terrorism was a great way to publicize a cause
or take action.
Here was eight guys who had hijacked the Olympics
and gotten more attention for their cause
than two and a half decades of war and fighting
and famine had ever done for them.
Yes, so it's, yeah.
In 24 hours.
It's sort of the failings of the system.
Yep.
And like the governments around the world
who should have been helping.
Yeah.
I mean, sorry to get political.
I love it when you talk politics, actually.
He's really sweating.
Her governments should be doing stuff
and helping or not.
helping in some cases. You know what I mean?
Of course we do. Yes, you're absolutely right.
We agree. It's just funny to watch you say something that is pertinent and then panic.
I'm planning. I mean, yeah, I'm just, yeah. I'm realizing you don't have the vocabulary
to talk about something as you're trying to talk about. Oh, God, story my life.
I have so many good thoughts. Can't get them out.
So it was a obviously tragic, horrific, disgusting event. But other, other things,
people saw this as successful for promoting their message. So Bruce Hoffman, a senior fellow at the
Council on Foreign Relations, taught NPR that in 1968, about 11 international terrorist groups were
operating. A few years after the Munich massacre, that number was more than 50. A large reason for
that was the global attention that the attack received. It was a boon for the terrorist industry.
Yeah, that's right. You know, copycat crimes really sprung up around the world. Just because, yeah,
They, they, to nip it in the bud, some powers need to go, hey, look, we're going to go, we're going to, who needs help?
Just put your hand up.
And we're not going to listen if you blow something up, okay?
But we will listen if you just ask nicely.
Yeah.
Okay, great.
And then they just go around and like.
Like in a classroom, rewarding the good student.
Yeah.
But then, you know, like, like they tend to do, they'll go around fucking things up worse.
You know, hey, well, let's just get involved in this thing.
Yeah.
That always works out well when, uh, yeah.
America and the UK and stuff get involved in stuff.
Yeah.
Do you think?
Yeah, it's proven itself to be very effective.
We'll sort it out with absolutely zero bias.
Yeah.
So that's the global response to the crime.
Israel and Prime Minister Goldemir was pissed.
The three surviving men who had callously killed 11 of their citizens in cold blood
had been released without having to answer for their crimes.
And in fact, we were given a hero's welcome in Libya.
It was a real slap in the face to them to see just seven weeks after the crime.
They walked free and now...
Can't believe that.
They treated as heroes.
Do you think what should have happened, do you think?
Would Israel like to have taken them?
And would that have been ethically sound for Israel to be like,
all right, we'll keep them in our jails or something?
Well, speaking of ethics, that's a big question throughout this whole episode.
Because if Black September thought Israel was going to let them get away with it,
they were dead wrong.
Prime Minister Goldemir soon invited the families of the 11 murdered Israelis to her.
office and told them that all of those that were involved in the massacre in Munich quote,
we will hunt them down and we will eliminate them.
Anki Spitzer, who I spoke about last week, who's been a big advocate for getting the swimmer.
No, that's Spitz.
Anki Spitzer, she was married to Andre Spitzer, who was the fencing coach who was murdered.
She's been very vocal with just the whole incident over the years, how it affected her and her family,
but also she was...
Oh, that's what she was saying, how she just wanted the Olympics to have a moment silent.
And it took 50 years.
Spearheaded that campaign, yes.
And she's...
Spitz-headed it.
She's been a successful journalist in her own right over the years.
She's a really impressive, well-spoken lady.
So she was one of the people in the office with Golda-Mere when she said,
will eliminate them?
And she responded, do you mean you will assassinate them?
And Mia replied, whatever you like to call it?
Whoa, which is brutal.
Whatever you'd like to call it?
Wait, no, but assassination that has a definition.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that the...
Like, are you going to capture them and put them in jail or are you just going to kill them?
What are you going to do?
Whatever you want to call it?
Whatever you want to call it?
If you want to call it, capture and put them in jail?
Sure.
No, but what are you going to do?
Are they going to be in jail?
Alive?
Well, I mean, you know?
Whatever terms you feel comfortable.
Yeah.
I think she just didn't want to say on the record as the Prime Minister.
Yeah, we're going to murder those people.
We're going to kill them.
Yeah.
So, Goldomere had just greenlit Operation Rath of God, which is such a bad ass name.
It really is.
It sounds like a very cool, very violent video game.
or a very cool, very violent action movies.
Yeah, it does.
Wrath of God.
It just, yeah, you know, there's always,
someone's always going to want to get revenge.
You know, you feel like, yeah, we did it.
We murder those people.
Let's call it there.
That's it.
Now they're going to want to get you back.
Yeah, let me retribution.
It's just going to go backwards and forwards forever.
Yeah, cut to 50 years later.
That is still exactly.
I like watching, I watch a lot of sopranos in the last couple years.
And every time something happened, I'm like, I'm like, what a story?
stressful life. You've just taken out an opposition guy. There's going to be repercussions for this.
Yeah. Yeah, I think about that too. You just never feel relaxed. Yeah. Everywhere you're going,
looking over your shoulder, you're going to get whacked. I never really feel relaxed.
Okay, you're looking over your shoulder? Well, I haven't killed anyone.
Oh, if that's what you want to call it.
That's how you want to say it. Well, no one said that. I said whacked. That could mean anything.
Yeah, I'm not a murderer. That's what you want to call. If that's what the...
But are you saying, if that's what the...
But are you saying...
that because you don't already feel relaxed,
you think you could just walt into that life of crime
and it would just be the same.
You'd feel nothing.
It would just be the same level of just surface level of anxiety.
You'd feel anxious anyway.
It may as well get paid highly for the mob.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you feel the same anxiety of I might be killed at any second?
I don't know.
Oh, that's a good point.
You should try it.
But I suppose we could all be killed at any moment.
Why'd you look at the light?
Is it going to fall on us?
Maybe.
Just to look at the ceiling.
Maybe.
Don't go towards the light, Dave.
Oh, no.
No, it feels so good.
So it's called Operation Wrath of God.
Sometimes it's also referred to as Operation Bayonet, which is also pretty bad ass.
It's not as good though.
Rath of God.
Fantastic.
And I think that is a big reason the Patreon support has probably voted for this topic
because it was the 1972 Middick massacre.
Yeah.
And Operation Rath of God, people like, hell.
There's a few buzzwords that are always going to get their attention.
Yeah.
Wrath.
Murder, wrath.
Operation.
Oh, okay.
I love that stuff.
Have they voted for Grapes of Wrath for bookcheek, Dave?
I have done that.
I've done Grapes of Wrath.
What does that mean?
Which you know? Because you listen to every episode.
Which one is?
Is that the one with the big guy and the...
No, same right.
That's John Steinbeck.
That's of Mice and Menn.
Right.
Grapes of Rath, that's...
Love how you knew what I was talking about when I said, the one with the big guy.
That's of Mice and Men.
Both fantastic books.
Love John Steinbeck.
Fantastic writer.
No, Grapes of Rath.
It's a biblical quote.
I think you'll find that I...
Did you read me out?
Because I suggest that in the hat.
Oh, would it?
Yeah, great.
I would have read you out.
Did you read me out?
Should I probably listen to that episode?
Do you haven't listened?
I probably have.
With Andy Matthews and Elsie Tremely Bertrand, that was also a two-part episode because
it's an epically long book.
But yeah, Tom Jode and his family, heartbreaking, but beautiful story.
Loisdletters you don't know, Dave does a show about classic novels where he sort of, he reads
them so you don't have to.
That's right.
I'll tell you all about it.
And, yeah, I find Steinbeck to be a beautiful writer.
While we're plugging other things,
How cool is this?
Oh, no, we'll have already happened.
One of our early episodes was about the Triple J Hotest 100.
And this week, at the time recording, Jess, is going to be hosting it.
Holy shit.
Isn't that wild?
That's tripping me out just saying that.
And it's like seven years and a day since we put out that episode.
Incredible, Jess.
Wild stuff.
So cool.
Very cool.
Let's not forget that we also did a report on the Academy Awards early on,
and it's only a matter of time before Jess gets that call on.
Don't know the Academy Awards.
Come on.
I believe you. I believe you. I believe in you.
Oh my God. No thanks. I'll take the Academy Award.
You'll do the Logies.
I'll do the loggies. Oh my gosh. Get her in.
Get her in there.
And it's only a matter of time before we're taken out in Operation Wrath of God
for talking about it on this podcast.
Oh, no.
Because it was and still is a controversial decision for Israel's Prime Minister to authorise
what is essentially an illegal operation to hunt down
and murder perpetrators in other countries,
essentially giving them death sentences without any right to a trial.
Yeah.
Yes, which I think other countries do, but they don't publicise it so much.
Yes, and it's so controversial that Israel, they still deny that this ever happened.
Oh, okay.
But there is a lot of evidence to the country.
Right.
Yeah.
But it's not like they're, you know.
The minutes from that meeting, for example.
No, that's right.
They didn't go to the newspaper, Operation Wrath of God has been ordered.
Yeah.
We're not suggesting that America and other big countries haven't done this as well.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, I have no idea, but it's just feels.
Oh, they do clandestine operations all the time, you know, taking people out.
James Bond.
Yeah, he's got a license to kill that guy.
Yeah, that's the UK, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
My five?
Yeah.
My six?
Yeah.
Six.
Am I seven.
Zero seven?
My six.
What's that?
Military intelligence is what stands for.
Oh, that would come up in trivia someday.
Maybe it already has.
That's what I remember.
So to carry out the extremely clandestine mission, Goldemirmeer trusted Mossad.
Israel's National Intelligence Agency.
Mossad is one of the world's largest espionage agencies,
one of the best in the world and certainly the best in the Middle East.
I heard an expert say.
I was going to say, is this your judgment?
No, no.
This is like an FBI guy that was interviewed.
They are responsible for intelligence collection, covert operations and counterterrorism.
Its director answers directly and only to the prime minister.
Pretty covert stuff.
Mossad really made their name on the world stage when they covertly
kidnapped Adolf Eichmann, one of the major organizers of the Holocaust who after World War
two had escaped to Argentina.
Sick.
After years of searching, they found, which a bunch of Nazis did.
Yeah.
Escape to South America and non-extradition countries.
Some led very quiet lives to try and cover their tracks.
Others didn't do that at all.
But after years were searching, they found Eichmann, kidnapped him on the streets of Bonnus
areas in 1960 and whisked him back to Israel to face court.
They thought that if they went through proper diplomatic channels to attempt to
to get him extradited that Eichmann would be tipped off and disappear again because he had lived
a very quiet life and gone under the radar.
They grabbed him off the streets, put him in the back of a car and took him to several
safe houses around the city before drugging him and taking him on a plane back to Israel,
which is wild stuff.
Yeah.
Really scary.
Yeah, it's so scary.
They literally walked up to him.
I think someone spoke to him in German and said, are you out of Eichmann?
And he was like, oh, oh, and then a car pulled up, put a thing over his head, and they just dragged him
into the back of the car and that was it.
He said, name, name.
It's funny, I've watched a preview for a new movie last night called My Neighbor Adolf.
And it's, I guess it's set in South America somewhere.
And it is about this guy who suspects his neighbor's Adolf Hitler.
He's just this bearded guy who's painting.
He's like, he's an amateur painter.
Is it a comedy?
I think it's sort of like, like a, yeah, a light comedy.
Not light, but yeah.
Light on the comedy.
But it looks like they sort of form a friendship and stuff.
I'm guessing it's not actually Adolf Hitler.
But yeah, that's what the guy thinks.
He goes to the cops and he's like, my neighbor's Adolf Hitler.
It was.
And when's it set?
It's fairly recently.
So he's obviously.
He's 140 years old.
And he goes, he goes, the cops going, how do you know what's him?
He said, it's the eyes, the blue eyes.
I'd never forget those eyes.
And she's like, didn't he have brown eyes?
So the abducted out of hockman off the streets,
Argentina was pissed that someone had been abducted on their city streets
and they appealed to the United Nations and said,
they can't do this.
That's illegal.
But in the ensuing debate, Israel's representative and later Prime Minister Goldemir,
so she was their representative at the time,
she claimed that the abductors were not Israeli agents,
but private individuals,
meaning that the incident was only an isolated violation of Argentine law.
Yeah, right.
They had nothing to do with the government.
Yeah.
Those guys?
Yeah, never heard of him.
But now he's back here.
We may as well put him on trial, which they did,
and he was put on trial for his crimes,
found guilty and executed in 1962.
Wow.
That's how they get away with stuff is by denying it.
So this really made people sit up and take notice of Mossad,
and I'm sure as they hoped,
put a few Nazis and Holocaust collaborators who'd gotten away on edge.
This was probably trebled when Herbert's Sukers,
who carried out the worst mass murder of Latvian Jews in the Holocaust,
but who had escaped to Brazil, was assassinated by Mossad in 1965.
They lured him to nearby Uruguay,
under the false pretense of a business deal,
subsequently killed him, put him in a trunk,
and sent a letter to the media detailing his crimes
and saying that he'd been sentenced to death.
So, yeah.
It's full on.
It's full on.
And a big part of it is to scare their enemies.
They want them to feel on edge,
like they're not safe anywhere they go.
And they're pretty sure that they're getting the right people here.
Yeah, they're pretty sure.
Like they're not going, yeah, I'll remember those blue eyes anywhere.
Yeah.
Didn't you have brown eyes?
Well, hang on to that thought for later in this episode.
Oh, God.
Massad were not afraid of following their enemies into other countries,
but to take revenge against Black September,
they would need to follow their targets into dangerous enemy territory,
not just any country, but countries they're actively at war with.
The Roth of God hit squad, codenamed Bayonet,
had sort of two reasons for existing.
One was to get justice against those that had committed the atrocities against the Israeli members of the Munich Olympics.
The targets would be both those that directly committed the acts and those that funded and organized them.
That's one part.
The other purpose was to deter future violent incidents against Israel.
They wanted to strike fear into their enemies by making them and think that no one was safe from the, quote,
long arm of Israel, no matter where they were in the world.
So they wanted people to think twice against fucking with them.
Yeah.
And is that something, yeah, I didn't know that about Israel, it has a long arm.
I guess that's what they're showing here.
Yeah, yeah, the longest arm.
Yeah, look, I can scratch my own back.
Yeah.
Must be nice.
Can you scratch my own back?
Nah.
My arms are quite long.
I can sunscreen my whole back.
Yeah.
Okay.
Without second or third party needed.
The long and flexible arm of Israel can sunscreen its own back, but also find you where you hide.
Yeah, exactly.
And you better think twice about messing with them because they, and that's the other thing.
It's like, no matter how long it takes, we can get you.
Yeah, right.
We're not going to.
So you'll be looking over your shoulder for your whole life, much like Jess is for some reason.
It's on edge.
Yeah.
Also looking for somebody to put sunscreen on my back.
Anyone?
You're looking over your shoulder.
Please.
Please.
I'm burning here.
So here's a quote to emphasize what I was just saying.
According to David Kimchi, former deputy head of.
my sad. The aim was not so much revenge, but mainly to make them the terrorists frightened.
We wanted them to look over their shoulders and feel that we were upon them. And therefore,
we tried not to do things by just shooting a guy in the street. That's easy. Well, fairly.
That's a terrifying sentence. It's easy to shoot someone in a street. Whatever. Anyone could do
that. But we wanted to make it complicated. So like, even more, even more scary.
Yeah.
What's so like they wouldn't feel safe even in their homes and stuff?
That's right.
When you're in bed, when you're in the car, for example.
It's my favorite places to be.
What's another place you like?
Couch.
Oh, okay, yep.
Not safe on the couch.
Cinema?
No.
Oh, I love being in the cinema.
Actually, cinema is the safe zone.
They respect film.
Yeah, they respect art.
Yeah, that's true.
That's right.
We're about in the pool.
I love being in the pool.
I'm a swimmer now, by the way.
Are you really?
I've done laps once.
I'm a swimmer.
What was it like the first time in the bull?
Because I love the idea of swimming laps,
but I'm going to be so slow.
I need the slower than slow lane.
Yeah, I was in the slow lane,
and I made it about 25 metres,
and then panicked that I didn't have access to air at all times.
My friend later pointed out,
why don't you do backstroke?
And was the pool 25 or 50 meters?
50.
Oh, dear.
Because 25 is fine if you got to the other end.
Yeah, no, it was a 50 meter pool.
Anyway, so yeah, I'm a swim.
I like breast.
stroke for a similar reason.
Yeah.
But I don't do it properly.
I just pretty much keep my...
Yeah.
My nose is out of the water at all times.
Absolutely, yes.
And I go so slow.
It's painfully slow.
So, you're basically doing doggy paddle but with the breaststroke.
Yeah.
Because that's what I like to do.
100%.
Yes, that's it.
Head out of the water.
Breathe that sweet, sweet air.
Yeah.
No one can sneak up on me.
I reckon I get to a pool once a summer and it's just like, yeah, one lap, probably in a 25 metre pool.
And I'm fucking knackered.
I'm done.
I'm cooked
Just got to keep going back
And build up your capacity
You go once
You go that was hard
You never go again
That's my problem
If I'm not instantly good at something
Why would I keep trying
Yeah, I'm the same
Yeah
I only do things I'm instantly good at
Me too
So I don't do much
That's why he'll love the couch
I love the couch
I love the cats
I'm so good at it
He's got that the first time
You went on it
I'm nailing this couch
I've been sitting on couches
My whole life
Dave's nailing the couch
Dug a little hole in there
That's why Dave has his own couch.
Anyway, please continue.
Heading up the operation was Mike Harari,
head of Mossad's special operations unit,
described as a ruthless, badass of a man
who would stop at nothing to complete his mission.
One guy described him as,
if he had to go to the moon and back, he'd do it.
Whoa.
He'd go to, like, astronaut school and everything.
Yeah, he'd commit.
That seems full on.
Yeah, he'd have to raise quite a lot of money.
And again, like, what about work-life balance?
Yeah.
How do these people switch off?
I don't think Mike's spending much time on the couch.
See, that's just not a way to live, in my opinion.
More couch time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If he was around today, he'd be doing, like, he'd be in Silicon Valley starting companies.
Yeah, yeah.
He'd have, like, eight startups going.
He'd be getting up at four.
Yeah.
Go to the gym, then having, like, a goji berry smoothie.
Yep.
And then he'd check his messages.
Yep.
You know, one of those?
Yeah, and then I go to the gym again.
What are those powerful people's day diaries?
Not meditate.
Yeah, and I spend four minutes with the children.
Yeah, I journal.
Back to the gym.
Seventh breakfast.
Then lunch.
Yeah.
Then I'm in meetings until midnight.
Then it's 15 minutes in the golf simulator.
That's a meet time.
I'm in bed in the cry chamber for about an hour and 15.
And I'm back up.
We got up shower, two minutes with the wife, then back in the goji shake.
It's just not how I want to live.
We're talking about Mark Warburg.
I want 10 hours.
asleep and I want a couple of meals and leave me alone.
This doesn't seem fun.
Hey, well, everyone's fun is different.
His fun is dumb.
Yeah.
Anyway, this guy's going to the moon and back.
He'll do whatever it takes.
But also, my worry about these things is once you start...
He will go to the moon and back if you'll be his baby.
I'm sorry for jumping in there.
That wasn't anything.
A bit of human.
Savage garden.
A bit of human savage.
Yeah.
Not the robotic savage garden.
In the project last week, Darren Hayes from Savage Garden was in the crowd whilst I was doing warm up.
Sorry, it was on the show whilst I was doing warm up with the crowd.
And there were people who were literally crying when they saw him.
Yeah.
He still got a big following that guy.
Oh, yeah.
Big following.
They were big.
They had number ones in America.
Yeah.
There's no one that I would cry at the mere side of.
More than Darren Hayes.
What are you talking?
You cry at Paul Kelly every time.
You ball.
That's true.
But it's not just like, I see it.
Oh, I might cry a little bit.
Yeah, we'd cry.
You'd cry.
What would you say?
You'd be a blubbering mess.
And you know what?
I think she'd handle it perfectly.
I think she would.
She'd have something funny to say to put me at ease.
Oh, man.
Is she here?
Don't cry for me, darling.
So the committee's first task for Israeli intelligence
was to draw up an assassination list of those involved in Munich.
The contents of the entire list are unknown.
Reports put the final number of target.
at about 20 to 35 on the hit list.
Right.
A mix of Black September and PLO, that's Palestine, Liberation Organization members.
Mossad put the feelers out to thousands of contacts and informants around the world and
began to track down and locate their potential targets.
The hit squad first killed Wail Zwaiter, a PLO organizer and cousin of Yasser Arafat.
Officially, Zwaiter was a translator at the Libyan embassy in Rome, but to the Israelis he was a
terrorist and a target.
When he returned to his apartment building in Rome in October 1972, as Swaita reached his
doorway, two men came out of the shadows and shot him 12 times.
Wow.
This is just in Rome.
Oh, geez.
Swayta was the PLO's Italian representative at the time, but they denied his connections
to the Black September group.
So some say this killing may have been an error.
Yeah, geez.
What do you think, Dave?
Do you think people deserve a trial?
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
Okay.
Interesting.
Okay.
Yeah, you're a pretty quick to answer there.
I thought you might have ummed an ard a bit more.
I mean, first of all, you can't go around kidnapping people from the Olympic village and murdering them in cold blood.
But also, I don't think you can assassinate people on the streets of Rome in cold blood or anywhere.
Okay, controversial, but...
That's how I'm putting it out there.
But, yes, I can see how you would want justice for your countrymen if three members had just been released by the government that had arrested them.
But it's very...
It's very nuanced.
Nuanced, but if I had to break it down into one sentence, yes, people deserve trial.
So that was in Rome, the next target was in Paris.
Mahmoud Hamshari, who was also a PLO representative, he was the target.
According to Britannica, so that's what I'm saying.
They deny it exists, but it's famous enough that the Encyclopedia Britannic have an article on this.
A wrath of God member posing as an Italian journalist, scheduled a telephone interview with Hamshari in December 1972.
Wrath of God explosive experts broke into his home and planted a bomb.
his telephone.
Oh my God.
While he was out.
They broke in, put the bomb in the telephone, and then they organized an interview with him
saying, I'm an Italian journalist, love to speak to you.
Can we do it over the phone?
He said, no worries.
So Ham Shari was called at the time arranged for the interview, and when he identified
himself, they said, Ham Shari, is that you?
And he said, yes.
The bomb was activated remotely whilst he was on the phone and he died in the explosion.
How wild is that?
I like that it wasn't just picking up the receiver.
Because then somebody else could accidentally.
Exactly.
That's the funny thing.
I'm like, why are they, they've over-engineered this?
Just, why do they have to have this Italian interviewer?
It was like, oh, to make sure.
So make sure it's not the housekeeper.
It's definitely him.
They said yes.
And they said the full name, is that you?
Yeah.
He says yes.
And someone goes, beep.
Whoa.
Explodes.
So that's just, that's, so they've just bombed an apartment in Paris, which is, you know.
And who was that guy?
Who did they just kill?
He was a PLO representative in Paris that they thought.
have been involved in organisations.
Yeah, yeah.
More than thought or just had an inkling?
Yes, I think that they are pretty confident that the people on their list are all involved.
But then, of course, so I can't say one way or the other, but they were confident they
were killing the right people.
Four other suspects, Basil El-Kubaisi, Hussain Abad al-Sheir, Zayat Moukasi, and Mohamed
Budia were all killed during the next few months in hits in Cyprus, in Athens and other
places over Europe. So people being taking out all over Europe, there were bombs put in cars and
even under a bed. This is why you can't feel safe in bed. That's your sanctuary. I love my bed.
And they have like devices. They're activated by weight. So you get in the bed. Oh, and they know how
much people weigh. Yeah, it goes off. So if it's a kid, it won't go off. Yes. Or I think it's more like
they get a signal saying someone's in bed and they've made sure it's the right person. Right.
They hit the bomb.
And although extremely illegal, the European governments actually turned a blind eye to these assassinations.
Really?
I think they were like, okay, yep, these are probably bad dudes.
Probably bad dudes.
And I'm sure there'll be no reprisals and this one just keep escalating.
This will just sort itself out.
After each of the killings, Anki Spitzer, who I spoke before, widow of slain, Andro Spitzer, would get a call from an unknown person who would tell her, listen to the news on the radio and then it would hang up.
And then she'd turn the radio on and it would say, blah, blah.
assassinated in Paris.
And she says she never was happy to get these calls.
She drew no satisfaction from the news of dying.
But apparently all the family members of the people murdered at the Olympics would get these
calls saying, look at the news, listen to the radio.
But I must say these were all relatively minor black September targets.
They really took things up a notch when Mossad decided to take out three senior members
in one night and not in a European city, but within the heart of enemy territory in
Beirut Lebanon, which CBS described in 2001 as, quote, the center of terrorist activity.
The PLO virtually ran the city. Their leaders were all heavily guarded. So it's a very difficult
and dangerous mission, but this was the ultimate display of showing the enemy they weren't safe
anywhere in the world. Called by CBS, quote, the most daring assassination campaign of our time
and the most audacious attack the Israelis have ever planned, the mission was known as
Operation Spring of Youth. It was seven months in the planning. And the
This is what happened. On the night of April 9, 1973, commandos landed on the coast of Lebanon
in Zodiac speedboats, launched from Israeli Navy missile boats offshore, and to avoid being heard,
they turned the motors off whether a few hundred metres away and rode the rest of the way in.
The 16 commandos then slipped onto the shore, and they were met by Mossad agents who drove them
to their targets in cars rented the previous day. But they were worried that groups of men
might attract unwanted attention, just wandering the streets together.
So they decided to dress some of the commandos as women
so they could get dropped near their targets and then walk through the streets
posing as couples on holiday.
Did they consider just having some women involved?
There he is.
There's the feminist.
Women can be killers.
They can be commanders.
It wasn't in 1970s, you know.
It's the same as like Monty Python and stuff.
If you need a woman, you dress one of them.
Man off the other one.
Yeah.
You do that a lot.
Yeah, yeah.
They did a lot.
He's not a Messiah.
He's a very naughty boy.
You know, fun stuff like that.
Absolutely.
One of the commanders dressed as a lady was then commander of the special forces and future prime minister of Israel, Ihood Barack.
He recalled, we decided maybe some of us will go like women.
It will reduce the suspicions.
We put everything in place, a wig and a breast and everything.
And a breast.
Okay.
That's our backstory.
They've lost a breast.
Not sure English is.
first language. And I had my lieutenant, Muki Betzer, he was kind of half a head taller than me. And we were a
couple. Okay. So they just wandered the streets. To quote from a CBS article that I will of course link to in the show
notes, the couple's first date was with a PLO guard in front of the building. That was their prime target.
Barak shot him with a silencer. Commanders crept up the stairs to the apartment of Kamal Adwan,
the PLO's chief of operations. The civilian disguises turned out to be a good idea because,
quote, the moment that they opened the door,
the terrorist was there with his Kalashnikov
and an AK-47 in his hands, says Barak.
And it was only the split second of hesitation of the terrorist
when he sees that it's civilian people
that ended up our officer shooting the terrorists
and not the other way around.
So he opened the door and went,
what the hell?
And in that moment, they shot him rather than him opening fire on them.
He said, oh, what's this thing?
Oh, hello!
Excessure.
Exceptra.
Exceptor.
They simultaneously rated three.
nearby guarded apartment buildings and killed
Mohamed Yusuf El Nakhir,
who was the operations leader
in Black September, so a very important
target. Kamal Adwan, a
chief of operations in the PLO,
and Kamal Nasser, the PLO
executive committee member and a spokesman
for the group. So they took out three guys
really quickly. The Israelis returned
to the beach in their boats and quickly disappeared
into the darkness. It had taken them
30 minutes in total.
Wow. You know, last week we were talking about
Germans' lack of ruthless efficiency. This is
ruthless and efficient.
The mission was brutally efficient, as I've really
riffed there, but didn't come without collateral
damage during the operation two Lebanese
police officers, an Italian citizen,
and Nahar's wife were also killed.
So, they've killed
innocent people there. More hits followed,
but the man at the top of their list remained
at large. A protege of Yasser Arafat
nicknamed the Red Prince
and thought to be the chief of operations
and co-founder of Black September
and probable mastermind of the Munich massacre
Ali Hassan Salame.
He was a wealthy playboy who drove expensive cars.
He was also extremely careful and in 1972 he disappeared off the radar and they couldn't find where he was.
But Mossard later discovered that he was just 50 metres down the street when they took out three of his colleagues in a single night in Beirut.
But they didn't know and they were spewing.
They didn't get him at the same time.
Wow.
Off the grid playboy.
Yeah.
I think at times he was flashy and then he would be like, oh, they're on my tail.
Yeah, right.
got to go underground and then he'd reemerge and be like, I've got a Ferrari.
Yeah, very low-key one though.
It's just red.
I wanted to get one in bright orange, but.
But, you know what I'm doing.
I'm giving a low-key.
Yeah, everybody's got a red one.
It's like James Bond, like, you know, trying to go undercover and then always driving
around in an Aston Martin or a lotus that was also a submarine.
Yeah, yeah.
Just keeping it cash.
So the three guys that were released by West Germany,
Are they still around?
They're still around.
They're on the list, but they haven't been, quote, dealt with.
I imagine they're being heavily guarded as well.
Yeah, so they've gone into hiding.
A lot of these people are going to safe houses, that kind of stuff.
But, yeah, Israel are very keen to catch up with them.
Yeah.
Yeah, but their number one target was the organizer, this guy, the Red Prince, Salame.
They were desperate to get to him.
And in 1973, when a report came through that the Red Prince had been spotted in a small town in Norway called Lillihammer, the team jumped into action.
There were reports at the time that he was planning an operation in Scandinavia,
and that's why he'd moved there.
That was an Olympic city as well, wasn't it, Lilliehammer?
I think it went on to host the Winter Olympics, yeah.
Let's see what year it was.
1994.
Well, good year.
I don't know why we can't have the Winter Olympics.
Because our mountain isn't high enough, apparently.
That's why Roy NHG started a campaign for everyone to donate their rubbish,
and we'll put it on the top of Mount Kosciuszko to build it up to get to Olympic height,
and then, yeah, they want to be.
want to host it at Smiggin's Hole, which is a new town.
This is all sounding like a good plan.
Yeah, I don't understand.
And how is the rubbish pile going?
Have we checked in?
I haven't checked it in quite a while.
Smiggin's hole.
It was about 18 years ago or something.
Well, 18 years worth of Australian rubbish, I think it should be huge, but it should be bigger
than Everest.
Yeah, exactly.
And then you just need like a light coating of snow.
Yes.
A bit of powder.
You don't know what's underneath.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
Get a snow machine up there.
Snow machine up there!
Get it going.
Get it going.
It's disappointing we never get the bloody Winter Olympics.
Yeah, I'd love to catch up with Roan H-Gene.
See how the Smigand's tilt is going.
Yeah.
Hope they've got broadcast rights.
So they hear that he's in Lillehammer, this tiny town in Norway, and they jump into action.
According to our history, the timing for Mossad could not have been worse.
It was during a time when Chief Mike Harare's top agents were on annual leave.
But he decided to go for it anyway, and the pool to choose from became even smaller because he needed agents that looked Scandinavian, something that he didn't have many of.
So the hit team was chosen, and it wasn't exactly the A team.
Okay.
I think he probably...
Well, they don't look that Scandinavian, do they?
No.
Mr. T.
Mr. T.
The face.
The face.
Hannibal and the other guy.
The chief, the colonel.
Yeah, what I?
That's Hannibal.
Hannibal.
Oh, okay.
Face.
B. A. Baracus.
Oh, B. A. Baracus.
No, that's Mr. T.
Okay.
Mr. T is, it's B.A.
Yeah.
We've got to look it up now.
John, Hannibal Smith, Arthur Templeton, Faceman Peck, B.A. Barrackes, who's Boscoe Albert,
and of course, how could we forget H.M.
Howling Mad Murdoch.
Oh, Mad Murdoch.
Howling Mad Murdoch.
The 18 movie with Bradley Cooper and Liam Mason's up.
It's a bit of fun.
Is it?
Should I check it out?
I haven't watched it.
It sounds right up my alley.
It's a romp.
I love a romp.
It's an action romp.
Is it like perfect cinema?
No.
But I don't think I want to see perfect cinema anymore.
No.
I just want to enjoy my time watching a movie and it's fun.
I've been watching all of the Predator movies.
Okay.
Watched Aliens versus Predator Requiem.
One of the worst films I've ever seen on a technical level, but so fun.
Yeah.
So fun.
I recommend watching it and now I want to re-watch it.
Let's watch it.
Okay.
Let's stop this.
Let's just watch movies together.
Instead of recording podcasts, let's just watch movies.
And I don't even talk about it one, Mark.
No.
Just enjoy it.
Yeah.
Imagine watching a movie just to enjoy it.
Oh, man.
Yeah, I can.
Predators versus Alien Requiem.
So, anyway, we're talking about the A team.
They don't have the A team because everyone's on leave and then they also have this
smaller pool of agents to choose from.
One of the agents, Marianne Glankov, a data processor and rookie agent who had recently
emigrated to Israel from Sweden.
Another agent was Dan Ert, a Danish man who was only slut.
more experienced. The operation was seen as so risky that Chief Mike Carraro flew to Norway to
personally supervise the operation himself. In fact, in total 15 agents were sent to take out the
red prints. It's a big, big operation. Lilliehammer itself is very small with a population
at the time of just over 20,000. So not many people live there. Yeah, right. And the sudden arrival
of more than a dozen agents attracted attention from residents. The local police began to watch them
thinking, I mean, 20,000 is not tiny. It's amazing that some people have turned up and everyone's
Like, what, the bloody horse's going on here?
Look at these guys.
Massad's intel was that Salame was working as a waiter at a cafe in the centre of town.
The Red Prince.
Yeah, I think they're thinking he's undercover.
Undercover as a waiter.
As a waiter.
Yeah, right.
Probably doing a bit of Intel himself.
I wonder if he was any good at it.
Like, it'd be real obvious if he's just like hopeless.
Yeah.
So he'd have to be, you know.
Like he actually has to write down the orders?
You're like, well, come on.
Sorry, I'm just, I'm not really doing waiting.
I'm actually a millionaire.
I'm a playboy.
Yeah.
I'm doing inter.
So, do you know anything?
Or do you think that they, you know how they take them into like these sort of like, you know,
terrorist training camps?
His version is they take him to a cafe.
Yeah, barista school.
Yeah, he's serving everyone.
He's doing latte art.
Yeah.
Just to go on the government.
Like he would not believe.
Hey, here's a bit of fun trivia, perhaps.
What was the first ever Netflix TV show?
Is it House of Cards?
No.
That was a massive one.
First ever Netflix TV show.
Yeah, it's based on something you've just said.
The A team?
Lily Hammer.
Ah.
Starring Stephen Van Zant from East Street Band and Sopranos.
Right.
Was he wearing the bandana?
No, he doesn't wear the bandana.
He wears like a big quiffy wig.
Maybe that wasn't that fun of a fact.
I actually haven't heard of this show.
I haven't heard of it either, but I follow him on Twitter and he talks about it a bit because I were just into it.
Yeah, I guess it's because it was the first one.
I hadn't really kicked off.
Yeah, there you go, for three seasons.
Yeah, I'm like, I know Lillie Hammer for, yeah, those two reasons.
The Olympics and that TV show.
But it's this town of 20,000 people.
Well, that's in the 70s.
It's probably a bit bigger now.
Right.
After the Netflix show.
Exactly, it's huge.
Probably a real boon for the town.
So they've seen him working as a waiter.
That's what they think.
That's what they've been told.
So they followed this guy.
He'd been seen talking to a known Palestinian
in Korea at a public swimming pool.
And they're like, okay, he knows that guy.
He was heard to speak French and Salame was known to be multilingual and they were putting all
these things together going, that's him.
Massad agents staked out the cafe and compared the waiter to a photo they had of him.
But they didn't have a great photo.
They just sort of had a pretty grandy one, but they were looking going, yeah, that looks like
him.
Oh my God, that can't be it.
The agent speaks French and it kind of looks like him.
Kind of looks like him.
We've got Intel.
He's been speaking to a guy that we know works for their organization.
Great.
They think the waiter was a match, but they can't be certain.
but he looks pretty similar
and all the other circumstantial evidence makes him think,
yes, this is the red prince.
So the assassination was ordered for the next day.
Agents watched Salame leave a flat
accompanied by a pregnant woman who attended a local cinema
with the operation being coordinated from Harare's hotel room.
They tracked the couple who got onto a bus
and then began to walk home and then they called the hit team in.
Is there with the pregnant woman?
Just walking down the street.
As the couple walked home, a car pulled up and two agents got out
and shot the man 13 times before speeding away.
It seemed on paper like the hit was his success.
They'd killed the guy.
Oh my God.
Harare, the leader of the mission, immediately left for Sweden via boat to get away.
But then the next morning, the media begins to report on a shocking murder in Lillehammer, the town's first in 36 years.
So these kind of crimes do not happen in this tiny town.
The victim was named as Ahmed Bushiki, a Moroccan man.
And it was only then that Mossad realized, holy shit, we shot the wrong guy.
A completely innocent.
He was a waiter.
Oh, no.
who just happened to know the Palestinian courier and speak French, as many Moroccans do.
Yeah, that's not enough.
I mean, I don't think they should be doing this.
I mean, oh, God.
That's so freaking grim.
He's walking with his pregnant wife or partner.
I mean, you know, whether or not he's walking with his pregnant partner, it's fucking grim.
But that, that.
They shot the wrong guy, yeah.
Fortunately, she was unhurt, but she had just watched her husband be shot in the street for completely unknown reasons.
Like, you know, they've got nothing to their.
with that sort of world.
It's like you or me walking down the street,
someone pulls out and shoots you 13 times.
You'd be going...
Which ruds the wife?
Hopefully me, because I don't want to die.
Take him!
Yeah, I don't want to see you die, Dave,
so I'm happy to take.
Thank you.
13 bullets for me.
That's really beautiful.
I think it sounds like the brave thing,
but it's the cowardly thing.
Yeah, just kill me then.
I don't have to do it.
I don't have to think about it.
Yeah.
So the town and Norway at large and the world were shocked and terrified
because they're wondering,
what the hell?
This tiny town, someone got shot 13 times.
They've got no idea what's going on.
Soon they've put it together and it was a huge controversy for Israel.
European countries seemed happy to turn to blind eye to what they saw as murderers
and terrorists being assassinated on their streets.
But the murder of an completely innocent man for no apparent reason was, of course,
a completely different story.
Oh, okay.
That's where they draw the line.
Yeah, I was wondering where they were going to draw a line.
There it is.
That's the line.
Innocent person being murdered with his pregnant wife?
Okay.
Nine members of the hit team, including the two actual killers escaped and were out of Norway.
the day following the assassination.
But six other members of the team,
four men and two women were arrested before they could escape
after Norwegian police noted the license plate of the hit team's car
and tracked it to a safe house in Oslo.
So they were arrested.
That feels a little sloppy.
Yeah.
Like I said, it wasn't the A team.
You're right.
Though having said the A team,
they always drive in that same van.
Yeah.
Surely they're going to be traced.
It was a terrible humiliation for Mossade
and it was a political disaster for Israel.
Five of the Mossad agents in Norway were sent to prison for their crimes.
And once they were interviewed, they gave up other safe houses and all sorts of other stuff.
Due to the intense international pressure,
Israel's Prime Minister Goldemir was forced to shut down Operation Wrath of God,
and it seemed like the Red Prince was going to get away forever.
But then, four years went by, and in 1977, Israel elected a new Prime Minister,
Menachem Begin, a man who was no stranger to terrorism and terrorist groups.
Again, this is one man's freedom fighter
as another man's terrorist
because before Israel was established,
he'd been the leader of an underground group
that was branded as a terrorist organization
and in 1946 bombed the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,
the headquarters of the British administration in Palestine,
and 91 people were killed.
Wow. Isn't it, it's wild because, you know,
some politicians' careers will be over because of a tweet.
They did.
You got some skeletons in your closet?
What about that tweet from 2013?
Yeah, absolutely right.
So, but now he's Prime Minister, and Men of Him Begin, decided to reopen Operation Wrath of God
and go after the Red Prince, Ali Hassan Salame.
And he'd been pretty busy in the previous four years, to quote from CBS,
Salame now didn't act like a man on the run.
He married Miss Universe, then spent his honeymoon in Hawaii and went to Disney World.
So he didn't lie low and he'd stopped being careful about his movements.
He got cocky.
He thought, four years.
They haven't got me yet.
I'm fine.
He's going to America.
He's going to Disney World.
He's marrying a high-profile person.
I'm the Red Prince.
Exactly.
He's living a flashy life.
Did he ever face off with the Purple Prince, i.e. normal Prince.
Okay, Prince.
I don't like the Red Prince's chances.
Yeah.
It's a dance off.
That's a shred off.
I'd back the Purple Prince in nearly any fight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No matter what the circumstance.
Fist fight.
Fist fight.
Fist fight.
Four foot 11.
He's taking this guy out.
No matter what.
Yeah.
Apparently, demon on the court.
In the summer of 1978,
The sports came through that he was openly living in Beirut, Lebanon, which again is still at this time enemy territory,
but Mossad had already proved that that meant no guarantee when it came to safety.
Mike Carrari was again put in charge.
He'd offered his resignation to Goldemir when Lilliehammer went down and was completely wrong.
But he kept his job.
This time he had left nothing to chance and put together a crack team of professionals, sending in 14 agents on different false passports,
including Canadian and British.
The lead agent was a woman known as Erica Chambers, so there you go.
Women can be Mossad agents too.
That's nice.
I think there were a few in the failed one as well, aren't they?
Yeah, that's right.
You're right.
Oh, what's your point there?
Well, you know.
Yeah, the first time they...
I shook my confidence in them and I wonder if it shook...
As a feminist, I can say that.
Yeah, you can.
Because I've got their backs.
Yeah, absolutely.
And can I just say something?
How hot are women?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
Without the, it's for people listening out of context to like many other episodes, that probably
sounds a little off.
But they're wrong.
But they are wrong.
They're wrong.
They are wrong.
Women are hot.
I stand by that.
If I know anything to be true.
Yeah.
It is that women are hot.
And, you know, not necessarily great at covert missions.
Yeah.
Not necessarily.
No, they might.
be, but they're an exception to the rule.
Your words, Jess.
I'm saying like anyone.
I'd say the same for men.
Not necessarily good at covert missions.
I don't know that that's true.
Okay.
That doesn't feel right.
So the lead agent was a woman known as Erica Chambers.
I can't confirm whether she was as hot as all women are, but we can assume.
Well, I'm going to confirm it.
She was an English woman who rented an eighth floor apartment down the street
from where their target Salame lived.
Foreigners were often viewed in Beirut with suspicion,
but Chambers went undercover as a local weirdo named Penelope.
Oh, I love this.
No, foreigners, I'm suspicious of.
Local weirdos?
Yeah, whatever.
They're harmless.
She's screaming in the street, but that's just Penelope.
But that is such a great cover because people will look away from the local weirdos.
She dressed like a bohemian, and to the locals in her building,
she seemed eccentric but harmless.
She spent her days rescuing stray cats and painting the city on her balcony.
Was Phoebe from Friends based on this woman?
It makes you think about all the local widows in your area.
Are they actually undercover agents intending to look harmless?
I'm going to be looking a little closer at him from now on.
Just in case.
Really, what she was doing was gathering intel and watching the Red Prince's movements from her balcony.
They were trying to work out where he regularly went and when they could best strike to take him out.
Over a period of six weeks, Mossade noted that Salame spent.
most afternoons with his wife, former Miss Universe, Georgina Ritzk, at her apartment in Snobra,
West Beirut, and when not in meeting spent time at the gym and at the sauna.
Hell yeah. That's the life, baby.
After planning a bomb attack on the sauna, the plan was vetoed due to the potential for an
excessive number of civilian casualties.
They're like one or two we can handle.
Yeah.
That could be like five.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Got to draw the line somewhere.
Yeah.
Well, they did notice that he'd become complacent and had stopped looking over his
shoulder by changing his daily routines.
Eventually, they put together a pattern and noted that in the afternoon, he frequently
drove down Becker Street and Ruvadun, the street that Erica Chambers' balcony overlooked.
Mossade decided to strike by putting a bomb inside a car alongside that street and remotely detonating
it as Salamis' car drove past.
The spot they chose was directly below Erica Chambers' apartment.
So she's out there pretending to paint every day, but really watching this guy like a hawk.
Wow.
And then she's out there on the street, pretending to feed him.
cats. She's watching this guy.
So, yeah, they're not worried that, you know, people might be on the public street?
That is a concern I would have, concern you would have.
Apparently, I'd a concern they have.
Okay.
30 kilos of explosive were put inside a parked car on the street.
The bomb was secretly brought in by Israel's military who swam ashore under the cover
of night, dropped the bomb off and again disappeared into the darkness.
So, Dave, just for people's, for context, 30 kilos of, were the bomb?
That's about a Dave Warnocky's weight in bombs.
That's about 50%.
I reckon my upper half.
Oh, right.
Really?
Yeah, unfortunately, I'm not 30 kilos.
You're not 30 kilos anymore.
What was your comedy word again?
58.
52.
52 kilos, but now I'm somewhere in the vicinity of around low 60s.
Right.
So just for conno, it is half of me worth of bombs.
And I reckon I could explode pretty good.
This torso is a designated weapon.
I reckon you could too, but.
Bang, bang, bang.
Get some fish tacos in you?
That time will come.
You just got to wait for the right person.
Thank you.
Cannot wait.
On the 22nd of January, 1979.
So this is like nearly seven years now after the Munich Olympics.
Salame was in a convoy of two Chevrolet station wagons,
heading to his mothers for a birthday party.
If he looked up,
he would have seen that eccentric English woman harmlessly painting on her balcony.
As Salamis convoy passed the Volkswagen full of the bombs at 3.35 p.m.
The bomb was remotely detonated,
probably by Erica herself, who was watching the timing.
You just said harmlessly.
painting. Now you're saying detonating a bomb. Which one is it, Dave? Women can multitask.
Oh, that's right. That's true. That's what you forget because you cannot. No, I cannot.
But women can. What are you up to at the moment, Jess? Multitasking. Yeah. So you're podcasting.
What else you do? I'm replying to emails. Yeah. I'm making a mental list of everything else that I need to do.
Make a hit list. Making a hit list. You're number one. Keep asking questions.
I have no questions. Correct. My little golden boy over here.
Not on the list.
Not on the list yet.
Oh, okay.
So she detonates the bum.
Or somebody does, but probably her.
Probably her.
And the explosion was massive.
Salami was rushed to the hospital, still conscious, but he soon succumbed to his wounds.
The mission was a success in that respect.
Seven years in the making, Operation Wrath of God had got their lead man.
But it did not come without the heavy collateral damage that they had been hoping to avoid.
Salame's four body cards were also killed, as well as four innocent passes by.
What?
Including two locals, a German nun and an English student, and 18 others were also injured in the explosion.
Just that's a wrong place, wrong time.
How did they not see that coming?
It's a public street.
But like just go back to like putting a bomb in his phone.
Yeah, or, you know, get the artist the sniper rifle.
Yeah.
We've been watching him for ages and we've got a really good idea of his sort of routine.
So let's get him while he's driving down a street.
Blow him up from, yeah.
Not, the bomb's not even in his car.
Yeah.
Which would have been hard to do, I suppose, but still.
Still, that sucks.
Yeah, it's awful.
Honestly, Jess, let's take over.
Massad.
Oh my God, Matt.
I've been waiting for you to ask.
Yeah, I really think we can.
It's time.
It's a new regime, okay?
Yeah.
We're cool bosses.
Yeah, all right.
Hey, we're bringing in a pinball machine, okay?
I'm putting a slide in.
Okay, it'll be fun.
Bottomless margaritas on Fridays, okay?
After four.
After four.
And until we get our work done.
I'd be worried that there'd be a bomb in the pinball machine.
Well, no, that's something we're guaranteeing.
There will be no bombs in the pinball machine.
What about the slide?
Or the slide.
The bottomless margaritas.
Somewhere.
That's awful.
Somewhere and the slide.
That's a bad way to go.
Split you in half.
Oh, maybe not.
Maybe it's on the top.
Yeah.
And you just go past it.
Ow.
And that's all you get.
Never know.
It's exciting.
It's an exciting place to work.
Okay.
Dangerous is your world.
Did we not mention bottomless margaritas
After four on a Friday.
They're poisoned.
Some of them are.
Some of them.
We're trying to build up your resolve.
You'd be...
Resolve.
Your resilience to poison.
You'd be bottlingless after going down that slide of the knife was in the wrong spot.
So, oh dear.
It slices off your bottom.
Wipped off my bottom.
For some reason, I've rolled down the slides sideways.
I've got no bottom.
Oh, dear.
Have a seat.
I can't.
So immediately following the operation of the three Mossad officers fled without a trace,
Erica had first taken the trouble to fill the cat's dishes with food
and had told her neighbor that the commotion had upset her so much,
she intended to rest in a hotel nearby and then she disappeared.
And there's been speculation over the years as to who this woman was.
Wow.
But I guess we'll never know.
Israel has never accepted responsibility for the explosion
and continues to deny the existence of Operation Wrath of God.
And this means it's difficult to pinpoint exactly hammered,
many were assassinated during the operation, and when exactly it finished, you might be wondering
about the three terrorists that survived the Munich massacre, who were arrested and then flown to Libya.
Well, for a time, it was thought that two of the men, Adnan Al-Gashi and Mohamed Safadi, were killed
by Mossad hit squads. The circumstances of Al-Gashi's death remain uncertain, but the other man
thought dead, Muhammad Safadi, was revealed in 2022 when he was interviewed for a German docuseries
called Death and Games Munich 72 that he is still very much alive.
It was revealed that he was paid $2,000 US dollars for exclusive rights for the interview,
and the producers later admitted that this was an error,
that they shouldn't have paid a man for responsible such a horrible crime.
But also, two grand.
Yeah, I reckon he could have held out for more.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
He could have held out.
That's not that much.
How old would he be there?
Is that him sort of going?
He was one of the young ones.
So, yeah, early 70s now.
Right.
Yeah, I wonder what would have motivated.
him to come out and do that.
Yeah, it feels like putting yourself back on the map or back on the radar.
If everyone thinks you're dead.
Yeah, let them think you're dead.
Yeah, exactly.
Everyone thought this guy was dead for a long, long time.
Finally, Jamal Argosci, who is thought to be still alive in hiding somewhere in
North Africa or in the Middle East, he was last interviewed for a documentary, the one I
spoke about last week one day in September in 1999, but his whereabouts are now unknown.
So two of the three are still probably alive.
Wow.
And there is a chance that Israel is still searching for them.
So they, even in the interview in one day in September in 1999, he talks about how he doesn't
regret his crimes, but it's affected his entire life.
He's like, just look at the way you have to do this interview now, 27 years later.
He's like, like, his face isn't shown properly.
It's almost like a witness protection program style interview.
He's like, yeah, I'm still in hiding.
Yeah, no shit.
Like, what do you mean?
Oh, I don't regret it.
But, oh, it's really affected my life.
No shit.
Yeah, yeah.
What do you mean?
He did an awful, awful thing.
He thought maybe you'd just have a normal great light.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, or your wonder, as a 19-year-old, what they'd told him.
Yeah, exactly.
That's very true.
You do this.
But it's funny.
You're going to be a hero forever and you're going to live a life of...
You live in a palace.
Yeah, what are you on a palace.
But imagine, yeah, imagine saying that to somebody thinking it's about to blow their mind.
You know, it's actually affected my life.
Oh, really?
Murdering people in cold blood.
Huh.
Interesting.
A terrorist attack.
On the world stage.
It's affected your life.
Okay.
Finally, in 2005, Operation Wrath of God was the subject of the Stephen Spielberg film Munich.
Got a great cast, Eric Banner, Daniel Craig.
You could stop right there.
I'd go see that film.
I mean, I didn't, and I haven't.
I haven't seen it.
I didn't realize Daniel Craig was in it.
No, me either.
Is this pre-Bond?
Just before Bond.
And he's playing a South African.
Pretty good accent work, I've got to say.
Is that really as good as in Knives Out?
People really hate on that, but I'm like, I'm fine with his accent in that.
Every now and then just a little bit of bond comes through, doesn't it?
Yeah. But I get used to it real quick.
But yeah, some people can't watch it because of that.
Oh, really? I enjoy it because it's fun.
I think it's a fun. It's a fun accent and it's...
Yeah, but he's, I really is pretty good at that.
It's also got some great European actors.
The guy, the lead actor in the bureau, that French show that I was obsessed with is in this.
Oh, yeah.
So good in it. Cool.
So, have you seen this recently?
Yeah, so I hadn't seen it before this report, but I watched it afterwards.
It's good. It's accurate in some ways, apparently.
and not in others, it basically sort of amalgamates lots of characters and makes it the same
four guys on this mission, but really there's dozens of people involved.
Is it, it's the Olympics part of it, or is it this?
So it starts with a little bit of that, and then there's a few flashbacks, but it's mostly
about the aftermath.
So Bano is playing a Mossad agent?
Yeah, he's the lead Mossad guy in charge of taking out there, with the hit list,
and Daniel Craig's like his right-hand man and that sort of stuff.
So accurate in some ways, it actually leaves out the Lilyhammer affair in Norway altogether, where they accidentally shot the wrong guy, which confused me as the whole point of the film seems to be the Mossad agents frequently talk about the ethics of what they're doing, killing these guys on the street and cold blood.
And accidentally shooting an innocent man seemed to me the biggest thing that would make you question your action.
So I am kind of perplex as to why they didn't include that bit.
Yeah, I wonder why.
I guess they didn't want to make it seem too questionable, maybe.
But the whole thing is kind of left open as to like, are they doing the right?
thing or are they doing, you know, an ethically questionable thing. The film starts at the
Olympic massacre, including the death of Moshi Weinberg, who I spoke about on last week's episode,
he was shot in the apartment in the village twice after bravely fighting back. In Munich,
Moshi Weinberg's son, Yuri Weinberg, who was only a month old when his father was murdered,
plays his dad in the film. Wow. Which is, must have been pretty emotional for him. Yeah.
But yeah. Yeah, you're when the guy's going, it's really affected by life.
I don't know what that guy thinks about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, mine too, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I never met my life.
He killed my dad when I was a baby.
Yeah.
I don't remember my dad.
Yeah.
Quite a few of us whose lives have been affected by that.
Yeah.
Oh, but that's the end of the double episode, Operation Rath of God.
Wow.
Part two.
Dave, I like it.
At one point you called it, you said wrath of God, which I like.
Yes.
And is that, that is one of those words you can say both ways.
You can say both words.
You can say both.
You can say the grapes of wrath, the grapes of wrath.
I like wrath.
You like wrath?
Yeah.
Is one the more posh way?
Because that's why I'd probably say it.
That'd be wrath.
Rath.
Rath.
I say wrath.
Yeah.
Grapes of wrath.
The grapes of wrath, the wrath of God, the wrath of calm.
Yeah.
You'll suffer my wrath if you don't clean up that tennis court.
Yes.
I'm slapping people with...
Tennis rackets.
Asking for satisfaction.
It's my back hand.
I demand satisfaction.
Or you will feel my wrath.
You are a...
nightmare to play tennis.
Oh, yeah.
But thank you for having me over at your tennis club.
Very hard to find a playing partner.
But a fantastic serve, my goodness.
Oh, my God, the power.
Second one, not so good.
Yeah.
Lose confidence on the second one.
First one, I know I've got a spare to come.
So I just whack it as hard as I can.
That second one, real lollipop stuff.
You lollipop it over.
Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show
where we get to thank a few of our great Patreon supporters.
If you want to get involved,
you can go to patreon.com slash do-go-on pod.
There's a bunch of different rewards,
depending on the level you sign up to.
Dave, you can give us some examples, I assume.
We give out three bonus episodes every single month.
We give them out.
We upload three bonus episodes every single month,
just for there is only.
And when you subscribe at that level,
the bonus episode or level or above,
you get access to the previous bonus episodes as well.
So there's over 150 in the period.
back catalog to unlock instantly.
Jess, what's your favorite reward for being a Patreon?
The newsletter.
Oh, yeah.
You also get to be part of the Facebook group, pre-sale tickets, you get discounts.
I mean, very recently, we did the DoGo One Awards this over the weekend, which was a live
stream that only the Patreon people got to watch.
So, yeah, we put out stuff.
We appreciate their support.
It'll possibly still be there if you sign up if you want to watch it.
Yeah, that's right.
All right, well, the first thing we like to do is the fact quote or question section.
So if you sign up on the Sydney-Schenberg level,
or above, you get to give us a fact, a quote, or a question.
This section has a little jingle, I think, goes something like this.
Fact quote or question.
He always remembers the ding.
She always remembers this thing.
And the way this works is, if you're on the Sydney-Shaunberg level or above,
you give us a fact, a quote or a question, or a bragger or a suggestion,
or really whatever you like, then I'll read them out.
I'll read them out for the first time as I'm reading them out.
Yeah, it makes sense.
You also get to give yourself a title.
This week, we've got one from David Loring, aka Chief Lifting Officer.
and David's offering us a brag.
Love a brag.
Writing, hey pals, I'm actually submitting a double brag.
Yes.
Love it.
We welcome that.
First brag.
Hit me.
I had a health incident a few years back.
That's a very humble brag, I'd say.
Oh no, he goes on.
That made me rethink a few life choices.
One of which was how sedentary I'd become.
I joined a gym primarily with the aim of just moving more.
And that eventually led to me working with a trainer who got me lifting weights.
Turns out I'm not half bad at it.
I train with some people who are stronger than me, of course, but I'm still content with this braggy little factoid.
After months of chasing it, I can finally deadlift 250 kilos.
Oh, what?
Holy shit.
Dave, quickly, how many of you is that?
Four and a bit?
Four and a bit, Dave's.
Deadlift four and a bit Dave's.
It's 250 kegs.
That's amazing.
Zero typo in there.
Yeah, I think that zero, it's 25 kilos.
Roughly 551 pounds for the imperialists out there, he says.
This means that combined with my best leg press at 750 kilos,
is that your sort of territory box?
Absolutely not, no.
He's not quite getting there yet.
He's pushing a small car up a hill at that point.
Yeah.
That's wild.
Well, if we ever get trapped under one, we'll know who.
who to call. It says, I can move a literal metric ton of weight in two movements,
although that's probably not wise.
Second brag.
Whoa.
With this submission, I've done at least one each of a fact, quote, question, brag and
suggestion.
Yes.
That's like our version of the egot.
This is the egot.
That's the QQBS.
Oh, and I forgot the F.
And I think we can all agree that's the bigger achievement.
Fantastic work, David.
a shit about your ton. No, that's amazing.
All that fantastic work. That's so good. Thanks for the brag. We'd love to hear a brag.
Cheers to you, David. The next one comes from Pete Holburton. Dave, your great friend from that time
he bumped into an industry. Let's catch up on that street corner, Pete. Pete's a very much
space fan. He was on a hard quiz. The Apollo missions were his topic. That's cool. Very exciting.
And also a lot of pressure when I found out after the Apollo 13 report that I did.
last year.
Yeah.
He said,
this is my...
Better that you found out after.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I was happy that Pete said,
I did a pretty good job.
Oh, that's great.
Pete's title is occasional iPod Yeller.
And...
Hopefully not doing that Apollo episode.
Hopefully it is.
That'd be so good.
And Pete's offering a fact,
which I can only assume.
Dave actually got lots of things wrong on that episode.
Pete writes,
there's a reverse of Stockholm syndrome called Lima Syndrome
where abductors develop sympathy for their captives.
That feels like that should be the normal.
one. Yeah. Yeah. The name comes from the abduction of the Japanese ambassador's residence in Lima,
Peru in 1996, by members of a terrorist group. Within a few days, the hostage takers set free most of the
captives, including the most valuable ones due to sympathy, and the ones who were supposed to kill
the hostages in the event of an assault could not bring themselves to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,
I love that that happened, because that feels like that's what most people are supposed to be. But I guess
most people wouldn't start the hostage taking in the first place, probably.
But of course, Dave, like you say, one man's freedom fighter,
some other man's terrorist or whatever.
Pretty true.
They used to say that a lot at uni when they were indoctrinating me into the leftist,
blah, blah, blah.
All right, thank you, Pete.
That's great.
Love that.
I've never heard of that.
You heard of that?
No, I don't know that story, but it's fascinating.
The next one comes from Blake Pilkington,
uh, okay, chief president of president chiefs.
Whoa, that's big time stuff.
I love the word chief.
Yeah, chief's great.
It was an old local brewery and Marabin had a, used to have a beer called The Chief.
And me and my dad remember we went there.
It was like the big beer.
We'd finish the night was one and say.
And he'd raise it up, he'd say, hail to the Chief and we'd cheers.
Bit of fun.
You were 11.
And finished the night with the Chief.
Chief.
Good boy.
Little nightcap.
No, he didn't take me then until I was 12.
The Blake Pilkington has a quote writing,
Hey, you, you're finally awake.
You were trying to cross the border, right?
Walked right into that imperial ambush, same as us.
And that thief over there, that is a quote by Ralloff.
Does that mean anything to you?
Ralloff?
I might be saying that wrong.
All right, let's have a, I'm going to have a quick Google.
this.
I think, is it a copy pastor or something?
The first thing that comes up is Reddit slash Skyrim memes.
It could be a Skyrim thing.
Oh, maybe it's like a thing that people, in the game, it happens over and over again or something.
Right.
I don't know, maybe, is it just before you die or something, you have to keep doing it over and over again?
I've just looked up Ralloff.
It comes up with Elder Scrolls.
That's a game, is that?
Yeah, Jess, you're the gamer of the podcast.
You've probably played Elder Scrolls.
Or and Skyrim?
I play, um, I play a little farming games.
Yeah, a little.
I like to plant and water my crops.
And also, I open a beer in breakfast.
Oh my God, I haven't played for ages.
Thank you for reminding me.
Ralloff is a storm cloak soldier in the Elder Scrolls 5, Skyrim.
He's the first character to directly speak to the dragon born during the game,
and one of the two soldiers that follow alongside the dragon born during the Skyrim Civil War.
Ah, yes.
The other being Hadvar.
of the Imperial Legion.
Uh-huh.
That's ringing bells.
No follow-up questions.
It's answered everything I needed to know.
That was Blake Pilkington's first fat quote of question.
Great.
You came in like a hurricane, Blake.
That knocked us all over.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, unlike anything we'd ever seen or heard before.
I love it because I know that there'd be a bunch of people listening who will both be yelling at their iPods,
but also just enjoying hearing their favorite thing being chatted about.
Yes, that's right.
And the confusion it's broad.
We'll bring them joy, maybe.
And finally, this week, we've got Stephen Carter, aka Mr. Apparently, this is turning into a series now.
Oh.
And Stephen has a question writing, hey team, back with another mascot fight to the death.
Okay.
Let's move over to the US.
Here's a list of all the NBA teams.
Oh, my God, there's going to be so many.
Yeah, there are quite a few.
Do you, I can, if you need any help, I can give you some extras, but, you,
Jess, you'd know most of them off the top of your head.
Who you're going with?
The Golden State Warriors.
Warriors is pretty good.
What's a piston?
That's like part of an engine.
So I don't think they're going to do so good.
Rockets are pretty good.
Are we talking about in a fight?
In a fight, yeah.
Oh, in a fight.
Indiana Pacers.
I guess that's like harness racing horses.
So I don't think they'd be too.
I reckon I'd be back in the Jazz.
The Jazz, yeah?
Yeah.
Can he try and defeat the jazz?
Can't.
How can you defeat jazz?
I'm going with the suns.
It's not just one son.
Yeah.
That's lots.
The Raptors is also pretty good.
Wizards.
Actually, Wizards is pretty hard to beat wizards.
Pop a spell on you.
Or magic.
Yeah, that's true.
What about...
But how does magic do anything without a wizard?
Without a wizard, that's right.
Now, is the official, my team?
New Orleans Pelicans.
They've got that.
You're fuck.
They've got that weird baby that wears a crown.
Yeah, yeah, a kingcake baby.
Yeah.
Are you think that baby's going to win, do you?
Who's one is, no one must to kill a baby.
Yeah, that's true.
But that particular baby, I think people would like to kill it with fire, as the saying goes.
My team, the Celtics, that's pretty vague.
That's all like, it's like a whole people.
Do they have someone who dress up, dresses up as a, like, what do they dress?
Their mascot is just like a, like a stereotypical Irishman.
Like, you look at the picture and you can hear it saying fiddle-d-D sort of thing.
Right.
So, yeah.
You know, the...
What about...
Mavericks, mascots, Mavs man and champ.
Yeah.
It's good stuff.
What about nuggets?
Little nuggies.
Wow, are they little gold nuggies or...
I think they are gold nuggies, but they could be chicken nugs.
Um, geez, it's, yeah, there's all...
That's Mav's man.
Oh, my God.
Mavsman is horrifying.
Wow.
Miami Heat?
You know?
The heat can kill.
They can get you.
You know, I'm a wizard.
Yeah, well, you're real hot now.
Oh, I'm feeling too tired to...
Yeah, a heat, silent killer.
To do anything.
It's like an old guy.
They die in heat waves.
On Harry Potter.
What about Knicks?
You know, I learned where...
And this is from Bill Bryson,
but I learned where Nicks comes from,
No, I don't want to hear it.
I don't want to hear it if it's Bill Bryson.
Oh, it wasn't Bill Bryson.
We've all picked one, so there you go.
I hear another fucking word of Bill Bryson.
It comes from like this.
He's still talking.
He just pace of ears.
Thank you so much, Stephen Blake, Pete and David.
If you are desperate to know, just send Matt a tweet.
Send me a tweet.
But I do not want to be included in that tweet, so help me.
It's just so it's a weird, like, knickerboxes and everything comes from this book.
It's a strange origin for a word like that.
Anyway, the next thing we like to do is thank a few of our other fantastic patron supporters.
normally Jess you come up with a little bit of a game based on the topic at hand.
Oh yeah.
Every time we do it, it's like you're learning it.
It's a surprise every time.
No, it's me going, I've already forgotten the report.
And look, a bit of a grim one.
Cod names?
I was going to say code names, yeah.
Let's give them code names.
Okay.
All right.
Or their missions code name?
Or they're like who they are undercover.
Like Erica playing the local weirdo.
Let's give them an undercover character.
Love it.
Can they all be local weirdos?
No, yeah, all right.
So if I can kick us off, I'd love to thank from Placelb in maybe Chile, C.H.
Dave, China.
Let's have a look.
Placelb.
Switzerland.
C.H. is there.
Remember that Swiss francs, the money is CHF.
Yeah, right.
Ah.
I'd like to thank from Placelb in Switzerland, it's Ariel Blanc.
Oh, great name.
Ariel Blanc.
What about?
What's the...
It's Orally.
O'Reilly Blanc.
I wonder, any relation to Ben-O-Blonk or whatever his name.
Surely.
Ben-ois.
Ben-War Blanc.
I only ever seen it written down.
What about O'Reilly is going undercover as Mavsman?
Mavsman.
The Maverick's...
Harding in plain sight there.
You would not recognise anyone dressed as that.
Yeah, that's true.
And it's like, obviously Mavs-Man isn't going to be doing anything wild like that.
Although there is that story that came out recently
You see that a guy dresses up as a wolf
He's like a self-funded mascot for an NFL team
He's just in the crowd
But he's always wearing the wolf thing
Apparently, and I haven't looked into it enough
But apparently whenever he would go to all the games
Including away games
And it turned out he was robbing a bank on all those trips
They eventually figured out
Oh, they're always near that team's away games
No.
I don't know if that's a true story or not.
If it is, it's probably a great topic.
And was you rubbing it in the wolf costume?
Apparently, but I feel like that can't be true.
Surely they'd put that together quickly.
Yeah, that can't be true, surely.
Can't always trust a meme.
I was found out with that Twitter one, the Tetris one.
Anyway, thank you so much Oirelli, aka Mavsman.
And I'd also love to thank from Perth in Western Australia.
It's Emma Purtain.
Emma Purtain.
So close to Baby.
Spice.
Emma Buntan.
True.
So close.
Oh, okay.
Which is actually funny that you mention that because Emma goes undercover as a baby.
Oh, a king baby cake?
No, just a baby.
Wow.
At a hospital in a maternity ward.
Oh, yeah.
Swaddles herself in one of those coloured blankets that all babies are swaddled in.
Because she suspects that someone, like there's a war criminal who's now a maternity ward nurse.
Yeah.
Hiding in plain sight themselves.
So she's just a tiny whittle baby, pooping in a diaper.
Not a bad way to go undercover.
I wouldn't mind.
You love the couch, right?
Oh, my God.
Imagine how much you love a cop.
Yeah.
Feed me every few hours and let me have a sleep.
Are you kidding me?
Heaven.
I don't think a huge baby would get anyone's attention.
I would give almost anything to have the opportunity to be put in a little
baby carrier, like a baby Beyond thing and just carried around.
Right, by a huge person.
Like a giant, yeah.
Like Shaq.
I would, oh, maybe Shaq could do it.
Is it?
Oh, guys, big enough to do it.
I would love that so much just to be like, just curl up.
Like you're in a couch.
Have a little nap be carried around.
Oh, heaven.
That's fantastic.
Somebody can make that happen.
I'll be very happy.
I feel like you've gone early on the baby thing because I'd next like to thank
from Lake Munmora in New South Wales,
Kelly, Bub.
I don't get it.
What do you mean?
A little bubby, little bubs.
What?
Unlike, I'm on Moora, Kelly going undercover as a speedboat.
Oh, brum!
I'm not, have you ever been in a speedboat?
You're not checking if it's a person?
No.
Because that's ridiculous.
I've never checked.
I've never checked every speedboat I've been on.
I've just assumed it's a speedboat.
For now on, you should be checking.
I'll be checking.
Wow.
That could be Kelly.
And why has Kelly gone undercover as a speedboat?
Because David Hasselhoff has, you know, they think that there might be ties to some very shady dealings.
Yeah, so it's the speedboat in Baywatch.
Yeah.
Mix with Kit from Night Ride.
Yeah.
I've been watching a lot of Baywatch lately because I've worked out that my, I've got a Samsung TV and it comes with free Samsung.
channels.
It comes a free Baywatch.
It literally does.
So it has like about a hundred channels.
There's a Jerry Springer channel 24-7, Bondi Vet.
That's all that plays on that channel.
And one of them is Baywatch.
So 24 hours a day and an episode of Baywatch is on TV.
That feels like that would be a comforting show.
Oh, it's so easy to watch.
Well, I'm sure it is.
Speaking of.
They made a show called Baywatch Nights, which was like a spooky Baywatch.
I love that as an idea.
Because the X-Files was big at the time.
Right.
It was Hasseloff and a local PI sort of investigating paranormal crimes.
It's so ridiculous.
I reckon David Hasselhoff or any of the cast of Baywatch should be a great person to be up in a baby Bjorn on.
Yeah, just not tall enough.
You don't remember, I'm incredibly tall.
I picture them all to be huge though.
But I forget TV movie and TV people are usually smaller.
Yeah, I'm also massive.
That's true.
So I need somebody to.
Haselhoff height?
What about Phelpsy?
he had a season on Baywatch
Ozzy Zone
Oh that's right
The first season I think
Yeah
What? Peter Phelps
Peter Phelps is on Baywatch
Yeah
But I think he quit
Because they made him
Speak in a ridiculous Australian accent
Wow
In my mind he's always wearing zinc as well
Like cricketers do
That sounds about right
Hustloff 1 metre 93
Pretty tall
That's not tall enough
What's that in feet
Six four
Six four
Mm
You want six more
I need like seven
Okay, so Shaq is 7 foot 1
Yeah, I probably need Shaq
What about that Turkish farmer
You don't get any tall than that guy
That Turkish farmer
Yeah, tallest man in the world
Right, okay
Maybe just say
What about the tallest man of
Because how's Dave supposed to Google
Turkish farmer
What Dave knows the bloody Guinness
Did you know?
He knows the Guinness book back the front
Look at me, did you know
Who's talking about?
Dave, look at Jess, tell her
Tell her that you knew
You didn't know, did you
And it's okay to say it
Don't let him bully you
I didn't know that
Is he a farmer?
Okay, well
I see, Dave's going to correct me here.
But he's Turkish, right?
The Taurus, living man, Sultan Kosen born 1982 in Turkey.
Okay.
251 centimetres is 8 foot 2.
Yes, that's what I need.
Okay.
That's it.
Because I want to dangle.
I don't want to just, like, I don't want my feet to be dragging along the ground or, like, close to, you know?
I want to be high up.
Anyway.
Occupation?
Farmer.
Thank you.
Congratulations.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
much.
He was unable to complete his education because of his height.
He instead worked part-time as a farmer, too tall to learn.
Can I thank some people, please?
Yeah, that would be great.
I would love to thank from Hawthorne in Victoria, Emma Lavender.
Oh, fantastic name.
Love to welcome Emma over from the Do Go On website.
Welcome.
Welcome across.
And thank you for going undercover as a telephone pole.
As a telephone pole.
Wow, they're everywhere.
And you never really pay that opportunity to.
No, you can move around.
Yeah.
So that's really clever.
But it is tiring because she's got to hold up all those wires.
There's so many of them.
And kids come along and throw their shoes over the top.
She's like, fuck off.
But you can probably ease drop on the phone calls easily.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, right, yeah.
That's true.
Is that, do you think that works?
You just by holding the wire?
Yeah, if you put the wire to your ear, you can hear.
It's like the old cups, two cups and a string.
Just hold your ear up to a wire.
That's how telephones work.
It's just basically an elaborate cup and string thing.
A cup and string thing.
I'd also have to thank from London in Great Britain.
Abel Brace gurgle.
Brace girdle.
Well, that's an incredible note.
I love that, April.
Brace girdle.
Abel, going undercover as I am thinking...
The spirit of Tasmania.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
The overnight ship.
Yes.
From Geelong these days down to Tasmania.
Yeah.
What do you think about that change?
I don't like it.
I don't know.
why.
It's quite a drive to get to it now, but I guess not for people in Geelong.
Yeah, that's right.
And also, I've never been on it, so I don't know why I had an opinion.
Yeah, I think it was just cool to see it.
I guess vaguely near where you live, Dave.
Yeah, now this, instead, there's a lot of cruise ships.
Oh, is that why they've moved it off?
I'm not sure if they're taking advantage.
It feels like, yeah, I see cruise ships all the time down there.
Because, yeah, I did catch it a few times, and I love it, but the flights are just so much
cheap.
I know.
I looked at doing it because I thought that would be a really fun sort of holiday, take the car,
We could take the dog.
Take the car on holiday.
Take the car on holiday.
The car deserves a holiday.
But it is so expensive.
Wow, I didn't realize.
I think you've really got to be going down there for quite a while.
Yeah.
And wanting to drive around the whole island.
Yeah.
Or like my dad would go down on the motorbikes and so they'd take their motorbikes with them.
That makes sense.
But I could hire a car and fly and it would be and put the dog in a boarding kennel in Melbourne.
And it would be so much cheaper.
I'm so sorry to Abel Brace Girl, although we're talking about you this one.
No, I mean, I think...
It's not the ship itself, it's the, you know, whoever's doing the ticketing.
Yeah.
Drop the prices.
I mean, it's, yeah, it's tricky because it's insane.
It makes sense that it would cost a lot to hatch for such service, but yeah.
But it'd be fun.
The Jet Star and stuff must have really stuffed them.
Yeah.
With the cheap flights.
Finally, for me, I would love to thank from location unknown, so we can only assume deep within the fortress of the malls.
I would love to thank Patrick.
Oh, Patrick.
Oh, Patrick, you know who you are.
But Patrick's already very good at this game.
No surname.
Very difficult.
No address.
What's he hiding as, Dave?
Undercover as a coat hanger.
Oh my God.
Think about it.
They're in nearly every house on earth.
Yeah.
Look at them all.
You don't look at them all?
I'm not checking them.
So Patrick's very flexible.
Very flexible.
Yeah.
Wow.
A real hook.
And I'm just, it's not just a cheap coat hanger, by the way.
I know you're looking at me disappointed.
It's one of the, it's expensive.
If you saw disappointment on my face, you are wrong.
I loved it.
Patrick, the coat hanger.
Someone is this good, that's a good nickname, isn't it?
The coat hanger.
You go, what's that, what's that for?
Yeah, it sounds like it's probably a wrestling move, is it?
Yeah.
Is it like the clothesline?
I don't want to find out.
The clothesline.
Is that the coat hanger like a clothesline sort of move?
Well, on Patrick.
All right, well, Dave, do you want to bring this home then?
Yeah, hey, move over.
Patrick in the Fortress because there's someone sitting right next to you and they are Tim Hanson.
Location unknown.
Tim Hanson.
Well, unlike the village oddball from the story, Tim is hiding as the village wisecracker.
He's the Chandler Bing.
Yeah.
Could I be any more obvious?
You know, because he's not that, he's not conspicuous.
He's not inconspicuous.
He's very conspicuous.
He works for a finance company or something.
But nobody would suspect him.
He's zing and he's zanging.
Yeah.
Love it.
And I'd like to thank now from Air in Scotland.
It is Arvid or Rivet.
I reckon it's Rupert.
Just looking at his email address.
Oh, Rupert.
Yeah, looking at that.
Rupert or Arvid.
Like Arvid.
Put together a couple of names there maybe.
And I think that Arvid is going undercover as a microphone.
And he caught me in the...
room right now. Oh my God, he probably is. Imagine, I mean, doesn't everyone else seem silly now?
They're all trying to get intel, but they're like a coat hanger. How conspicuous is the microphone
or the notepad going to be hanging off the coat hanger? Whereas... Just be the microphone.
He is a microphone. He is the wire. Yeah. You wearing a wire? I am a wire. I am the wire. I am the wire.
But the coat hanger guy says that as well. Yeah. I am the, I am the wire. I am the wire. I am the wire.
When you said it was a fancy one though, I assumed timber.
Yeah, the timber ones with the little pegs so you can clip stuff.
Put some pants on that.
Loddy, doll.
Yeah, a bit fancy.
Oh, some trousers.
Sorry, bit fancy smancy.
Yeah, I've dreamt of such things.
Well, one day.
One day.
Well, everyone else is having to wait a week to hear their shout out here, but Arvid, I'm talking into you right now.
I once, mum asked me a few years ago what I wanted for Christmas or something, and I said,
I could use some nice coat hangers
and she thought it was the funniest
and sadest thing she'd ever heard.
But it's so practical.
It's practical.
I'm like,
I don't really need anything
but if you really want to get me something,
I don't have any good coat hangers.
But yeah, her reaction was so funny.
She's like, oh, Matt, oh God.
She's telling her friends.
He wanted coat hangers.
He's got no interest to this guy.
This is my most boring child.
Oh my God.
Thank God.
I've got some others.
Oh, wow.
Thank God I had other kids.
Hobbies and interests.
That's funny.
This fucking guy just wants Coteen.
Oh, my God.
Finally, I would like to thank from Edinburgh.
We're staying in Scotland with Caudie.
Caudy.
Caudy, of course.
A hiding is a parachute.
A parachute pigeon.
Parachute pigeon.
Now, that's one of those pigeons that doesn't have wings.
Wingless pigeons.
It's a jump off buildings.
They can only glide.
Yeah.
So they jump off and then they're where wings should be.
They're sort of a big bag of feathery skin.
Yeah.
That just catches the wind.
Beautiful.
Can we hear that impression again?
Love it.
Jess, you're stepping on my toes there.
Yeah, yeah, Matt.
I'm going to call something a fun fact soon.
Do you want to have a go.
Don't you fucking dare.
Yeah, go on.
You do a pigeon nose.
Do a pitch.
Well, yeah.
But I feel like it would be embarrassing to Jess, but I can.
Go on.
I'll do a parachute pigeon.
Please.
Because Jasso was pretty generic.
But you're doing a parachute pigeon like a bag of skin.
Yeah.
In bird form.
It's just being created and that's all right.
So picture of this.
The parachute pigeon has just been arrived, you know, Poff.
Poff.
Poff. Here I am.
It exists.
Didn't exist now exist.
Poff, here I am.
It is standing on the top of a building, jumping off instantly.
And this is my impression of the...
Yeah.
How did you do this?
That was perfect.
yelling, what am I?
What am I?
Wow, that makes you think, doesn't it?
So, Jess, don't come at the king.
If you come at the king, you'll get the claws.
The king's got claws?
Yeah.
Well, thank you to Cordy, Arvard, Tim, Patrick, Abel, Emma, Kelly, other Emma and Oralee.
And the last thing we like to do is welcome a few people in our Triptage Club.
Now, this is a club very exclusive to our supporters who've been on the shoutout level or above for three straight years.
And it's a bit of theatre of the mind.
I'm standing on the door.
I've got the what do you call it, clipboard.
I've got the guest list.
Three names on it this week.
I'm going to read out a name.
Dave's standing on the stage.
He's the MC for this evening.
And he's going to hype you up.
Do a bit of weak word play.
The crowd's going to go wild.
Jess is there hyping up Dave, making him feel better about the sort of the pretty
Ordinary stuff he does.
Such a dick.
Jess is also behind the bar.
She's normally come up with a bit of a cocktail.
We have bottomless margaritas.
Oh,
but some of them are poisonous.
And we do have a selection of hors d'oeuvres.
Just like, you know, I just got some catering in.
So it's just like a sort of party platter kind of thing.
But I've put little bombs in some of them.
Little bombs of flavor?
Explosive with flavor.
Okay.
Yeah, fantastic.
And explosives.
Okay.
And Dave, you normally booked a band?
I have booked a band.
You're never going to believe this.
Unfortunately he was sick last week, but we've got him this week.
Performing his hit one day in September, Mike Brady.
No.
He's dropping by.
Does he do gigs other than Grand Final?
He works one day or year and cleans up that guy.
Wow.
I was once at the Sandringham Hotel, just like a pokey sort of pub with a sports bar,
but they used to turn it into a bit of a club on Friday night.
Hell yeah.
And then the TAB section was the bandroom.
and a cover band would play, but I was there one night, and Mike Brady came on to sing his two big hits.
Wow!
Yeah, it was pretty sick.
I'm guessing he's just going around doing that, getting like 500 bucks cash or whatever, just going pub to pub.
Incredible.
That's good stuff.
And now here he is live.
So good.
I'm so glad our patrons get to see him.
All right, so we ready to go?
Here we go.
Yes, let's rock.
All right.
First up, we've got from Burnaby.
In Canada, it's jammy.
We're jammy, we're jammy, we're jammy, we're jammy, we're jammy, we're jammy, we're jammy, for barley, come on.
Fantastic stuff, welcome in jammy.
Also, from Coburg, just up the road in Australia, it's Alex.
Well, I was going to have a bad day, but then this guy, all girl, came in and said,
Noberg, Brahms with Coburg.
Not much of work with you, just a first name.
Hell yeah.
Alex, you are.
The best.
Alex triple X.
Triple threat.
And finally from Ashburn.
In Great Britain, it's Elliot C.M.
More like from Cashford.
Yeah.
And then I get one of those money guns from rap film clips.
Cold hard cash.
From rap film films.
Welcome in Elliot, Alex and Jeremy.
That's the widest thing you've ever said.
Hey, I guess I know rap.
From rap videos.
Thank you so much for all your support over the last three years.
Now that brings to the end of the episode,
anything we need to tell people before we go, Bob.
Just that we love them.
They can find us at.
Do Go On Pod across all social media.
Do GoOnPod.com is our website and that they can suggest a topic.
Dave, boot at home.
We'll be back next week with another episode.
And until then, I'll say thank you so much for listening and goodbye.
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