Do Go On - 386 - The Great Brink's Robbery

Episode Date: March 15, 2023

On the evening of January 17, 1950, employees of the Brink's Company in Boston, Massachusetts, were surprised by 5-7 masked men. Within minutes, they’d stolen more than $2.7 million in cash, checks and other securities, making it the largest ever robbery in the US at the time and kicking off a massive FBI led manhunt. Tune in to this week's episode to hear the story!This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 07:28 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodLive show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our new merch: https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/Do Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/brinks-robberyhttps://www.newspapers.com/clip/113268139/a-quarter-century-later-brinks/https://www.nytimes.com/1976/03/28/archives/specs-okeefe-informant-in-brinks-robbery-dies-biggest-cash-robbery.htmlhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/how-americas-biggest-heist-the-great-brinks-robbery-fell-apart Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnikey and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. It's Matt Stewart. He's my very best friend and Dave's here.

Happy to get a mention. I love, love, love that jingle. Love, love, love. I'm going to tell you and I'm not even joking. How good is it to be alive? He's good to be alive. Are you convincing us or yourself? No.

It's great to be alive. I absolutely agree. I could take it or leave it. Yeah, right. Well, could you take or leave explaining how this show works? Absolutely. I'll leave it. Thank you.

I'll take it. I'll take this one. What we do here is we take it in terms of the report on a topic often suggested to us by one of the listeners or a bunch of listeners. We go away, do a bit of research, bring it back to the group by the other two listen to their report. Respectfully. Always respectfully. That's my motto. And this week, it's Jess and I, our turn, to listen respectfully as Matt reports on a topic.

and we always start with a question, Matthew. Yeah, and you only ever respectfully interrupt with dogship riffs. That's right. Well, when Dave's doing the report, you and I are the SaaS twins. When you're doing the report, Dave and I are the polite twins. That's right. We put our hands up. And we say, excuse me, Matt, if I could just briefly interject.

Yes. With a thought. But yeah, we get onto the topic with a question. And my question is this. Okay. This is sort of like one of those beat the bomb style questions. It's not beat the bomb, but I'm going to give you a little bit of information. and you can jump in at any time.

Okay, can we guess more than once? I think you're locked out. I'm going to lock you out. Right. So jump in only when you know. Can you just lock me out now? I'm going to lock us out. So we'll each have one guess and then we'll be locked out.

Once you're both locked out, you're both locked back in. This is too complicated. All right, the question is. I'm locked. What city do the following people, all right, Jess is locked out. No, I'm going to let you, I'm locking you back in. Okay. Am I locked in or out?

You get no watches. You started this. What city? What city do the following people have in common? All old do go on topics. Oh. Benjamin Franklin. Julia Child.

Isabella Stuart Gardner. Philadelphia. Just has locked out. I did the report on that. I don't know where it was. Edgar Allan Poe. Baltimore. All right.

You're both locked back in. Okay, because of the Ravens. John F. Kennedy. Larry Bird. Boston Celtics. Yes, Boston. It's a Boston. It's Boston.

It's Boston Celtics. That's Larry Buston. John F. Kennedy, I thought that would be the... Oh, yeah, having. So they're all listed on... Car keys. Boston Magazine's list of the 100 best Bostonians of all time. Wow.

And some of them are definitely not Bostonians, but they live there for a bit. At least Alexander Graham Bell, a famous Scottish man. But they've claimed him. They do what we do. Yeah, we do that. Spent some time here, he's one of ours. Sam Neal, Australian, I think you'll find. Spent 14 hours here on a Kentucky tour, one of ours.

One of ours. File up, one of ours. Pavlova, one of ours. Thank you. Very much. Key, Keyy Bird, one of ours. Can I say, was that in order of importance for them? No, I put him in order of what I thought was increasingly more obvious.

That's why I had to, I have to, Think of, Larry Bird was mentioned in the Jordan episode, but I thought, I didn't go past Kennedy, I thought. Right, okay. So you just, why sticking the boot in? I thought it would be obvious to you fucking idiots, but apparently I work with morons, dumb little babies. Like, stick the boot in harder, why don't you? I mean, I hate that.

It's like when you're doing like a, you're playing trivia pursuit or something, and someone's, they're about to ask you a question, oh, he's an easy one. Oh, what's the square root? I'm like, fuck you. You'd be an idiot not to get this. Yeah. Oh, good, good, nice easy one for you here. Real slam dunk coming up.

Just make it. There's, there's no winning all of a sudden. Oh, you got it right. Of course you would. It's easy. Yeah. You didn't get it right? Yeah. Jeez.

Yeah, that sucks. So anyway, Bob, I think this is, this is an episode where your accent can really come to the four. Carkies. Mm-hmm. There's a guy. He's very big on TikTok. People will know who I'm talking about, and they might love him. But his entire thing is just mocking his girlfriend's Boston accent.

That's all he does is, like, is shits all over her. Lovingly. For talking differently. And I'm like, uh-huh, accents. Yep. You say stuff different to me, asshole. How does, what's his accent? Let's mock it right now.

Just like a basic American. What is basic American? Is that just from the center? I guess. The exact center. And instead of like Cooper, she says Cooper, and he's like, ugh. Cooper, Cooper. Do I do both?

Yeah. Because the Boston one's a little bit Australian. Yeah. So they say car. Car. And we say car. That's right. Isn't that wild?

Whereas right in the center of the US, they say Carl. I knew that. Wow. I knew it. So we just say a silent L. Yeah. Will they emphasize it? We do a silent RL.

L. And they pronounce the R and the L. Right, but they say. Anyway, I know you've both had your hands up for those dog shit riffs, but we're going to get on with the topic at hand. Oh, these big heavy boots he's gone on today. It just keeps fucking sticking them in. And we're going to be talking about the great Brinks robbery.

Brinks. Brinks. So Brinks is like their chub security or something, I think. Oh, they've got a chub. We've all got chubs. Well, they've got a brink. They've got a chub. They're on the brink.

Of chub. Oh boy. This was suggested by just the one listener, Michael Blankenborg, from Victoria, BC, in Canada. How dare you have such a fantastic name, Michael. One more time. Michael Blankenborg. Blankenborg. It is so good.

Because here's the thing, Michael Blanken would have been incredible. Michael Borg. Incredible. Blankenborg? How fucking dare you, Michael? That is amazing. Save some for the rest of us. Oh, I love it.

that. So yeah, there's this fantastic breakdown of the story on the FBI website. So, you know, maybe they're tooting their own home somewhere. I just want to say I've translated Blankenborg on Google Translate. And it says detect language into English. Blankenborg translates into English as Blankenborg. Okay. Okay. Well, that makes you think, doesn't it? So I guess it's an English word. I guess we're not that different. I love it. So FBI. FBI, yes. This is a lot of it. So FBI. FBI, yes, this is a big FBI investigation. One of their most famous ones. They must be proud of their efforts.

They're proud as punch. But do they solve the case? We had some pretty good leads. Yeah, in the end, it went unsolved. And my suit looked pretty good that day. God, that looks so good, no sunnies. They were new and I was trying something different and I could pull it off. So according to the FBI, on the evening of January the 17th, 1950, employees of the security

firm Brinks Inc. in Boston, Massachusetts, were closing for the day, returning sacks of undelivered cash, checks, and other material to the company safe on the second floor. Shortly before 7.30 p.m., that was surprised by five men, heavily disguised, quiet as mice, wearing gloves to avoid leaving fingerprints and soft shoes to muffle noise. Right, they really were moving like mice, like, oh, oh, oh, scurrying along. Eating little bits of cheese. All of them wore navy-type pea coats, gloves, and chauffeurs caps, which were apparently quite fashionable at the time. Right, so that wasn't, that was just for fashion, not for. And it was, well, it was also quite similar to the Brinks staff uniform.

So they sort of blended in a bit. What didn't blend in, though, was that each robber's face was completely concealed behind a Halloween-type mask. Right. Okay. So everyone's like, oh, hey, it must be Joe. Hang on. Joe, what happened to your face? It's melting.

Oh my God, Joe. Someone called an ambulance for Joe. Joe, I can't hear you under that face. You sound muffled. Joe. Joe, Joe, please. Everybody, I worry about Joe. Oh, no, look Frank's face is fucking as well.

What's going on? It's my face okay. Guys, just wait right there. I'm going to check the mirror. So I always look like that. That's one of the other robbers. They're like, oh my God, I look like that too. So the robbers did little talking because of the muffled voice, I guess.

They moved with a studied precision, which suggested that the crime had been carefully planned and rehearsed. Or they were dancers. Yes. This was choreographed tightly. They didn't speak a lot, but what they did say was five, six, seven, eight. Their movement did all the talking film. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Remember it step, step, pivot, pirouette. Come on. Somehow the criminals opened at least three and possibly four locked doors to gain entrance to the second floor of Brinks, where the five employees were engaged in their nightly chore of checking and storing the money collected from Brinks customers that day. All five employees had been forced at gunpoint to lie face down on the floor. Their hands were tied behind their backs, and adhesive tape was placed over their mouths. Within minutes, they'd stolen more than $1.2 million in cash. Wow.

And another $1.5 million in checks and other securities, making it the largest robbery in the US at the time. So this is 1950. Whoa. So that's big dollars. Big dollars. Probably about 30 million in today's money. Wow. Yeah.

So it's a huge haul. I wouldn't say no to 30 million. You wouldn't say no? No. What would you say no to? Um. Because I've got $5 in my wallet right now. I'll have that.

We found a price. No, no, no, she wouldn't say no to five. Would you say no to two? I wouldn't say no to any of it, really. Five cents. Oh, yeah. It's a burden. Actually, yeah, coins, I'd be like, nah.

And even actually a note. Can you just transfer me $5? Okay. I don't really carry cash. Transferring now. Thank you so much. Matt, could you also transfer me $5? Okay.

Thank you. I reckon I'd accept down to $0.50 pieces. Would you? And then what are you going to do? Okay, actually, you know what? I would accept $1 coins because at least I can use that in the $1. washing machine. But other than that. Gold coins are, you know, they're like gold to me. So half of it, nearly almost half it's in cash. Yep. One point two million. Imagine,

I imagine that's a lot of money to transport, right? It's quite a bit of, it was, it was hefty. Yeah, that's a hefty package, yeah. Yeah. I can't remember it was like tons or a ton or half a ton. It was heavy. Yeah, even half is a lot. Yeah, it was some portion of a ton. I can't pick that up. Could have been a ton. It could have been a ton. 10th of a ton? Wow, 10th ton. No, I think it was hefty. Yeah, that's a lot to imagine.

I got to tell you, I regret not riding down the weight. I've only ever seen half that money in one place at once, so I can't even imagine twice that. What, my £5 million? Where did you see half that amount at one time? Under my mattress. Okay. I sleep 15 feet the year. Not there.

A very lit big ladder and a trampoline. So you had the pile of cash then you, I guess you put the bed on top of it? Yeah, that's right. Otherwise, how will it be hidden from people? And the bed is just precariously Topling The leg's not touching the floor Is that we're saying?

Yeah Holy moly Is that quite soothing to sleep Like a waterbed kind of feel? Yeah, because I've got the satisfaction That I've got Three quarters of a million dollars

That must be a satisfactory sleep Three quarters of a million dollars Pretty good Pretty good Wouldn't say no to that I wouldn't say no to that If there were no strings attached I'd say yeah

Yes thank you very much According to the FBI, as the robbers sped from the scene, a Brinks employee telephoned the Boston Police Department. Minutes later, police arrived at the Brinks building and special agents of the FBI quickly joined in the investigation. But there was no sign of them. They barely left a trace. At the outset, very few facts were available to the investigators.

In addition to the general descriptions received by the Brinks employees, like melty faces. Yeah, you looked a bit like Frank. But weird. Really worried about him. He was acting all strange. Frank would normally rob from us. He'd normally, you know, come in and count the money, not take the money.

I don't know what's gotten into Frank. Frank's like, I'm right here. I was robbed as well. Okay? Frank's losing. Honestly, he's suspect number one. So, yeah, they got these general descriptions. They also got several.

got several pieces of physical evidence, like rope that was used to tie them up, the adhesive tape that bound and gagged the employees, and one of the chauffeur's caps that one of the robbers left at the crime scene. But the thing is, they'd clearly spent the time, it was a brand new cap, and they'd spent the time to unpick the label from it. So, and they were very common hats at the time, so there was really no way to trace it back to a store. dealing with pros for sure yeah so even even the idea that they might have left it behind they

were prepared for that which is interesting the FBI further learned that four revolvers had been taken by the gang so there was security there and they'd taken those guns off them but they had descriptions and the serial numbers of these weapons because they were you know company guns so the FBI noted these down thinking you know if they turn up they'll they'll be able to have a connection back to the robbers. In the hours immediately following the robbery, the underworld began to feel the heat of the investigation. Well-known Boston hoodlums were picked up and questioned by police, like all of them, basically. They just went, they were bringing everyone in. From Boston, then, the pressure quickly spread to other cities. Veteran criminals throughout the United States found

their activities the subject of official inquiry. A systematic check of current and past Brinks' employees was undertaken, seeing as they'd got in through multiple locked doors, they're like, they were thinking inside job. Yeah. Frank. Inside Frank. Honestly. I was tied up with you.

I'm sick of the lies, Frank. You were the best man at my wedding. Now I feel like I didn't even know you. So, yeah, so a bunch of employees were taken in, especially any that had records, criminal records, not vinyl. Hit records. Oh, okay. Very interesting.

You got the Beatles LP, all right? Hmm. Yeah, and because they clearly knew the layout of the building as well, they're like, you know, it's all pointing towards an inside job. It reeks. Yeah, it stinks to high heavens. The robbery was front page news the following day, and the case quickly caught the imagination of America. But the robbers weren't necessarily public enemy number one either. It wasn't like the robbers knocked off the local church or the local.

local orphanage said Stephanie Scoro, who wrote a book about it called Crime of the Century. I reckon this is maybe the third or fourth crime of the century. Yeah, I do love a crime of the century. Similar to like the 100 year flood. Well, 100 year storm, you know, and that seemed to happen all the time. Scorro goes on, they picked a big company that could afford in the minds of many to lose this money, so people took a perverse pride in it. Got into the Daily Beast, the FBI tried to trace the money,

keeping an eye on racetracks, casinos and resorts where men of previously modest means might be suddenly seen spending a fortune. And they brought in, they were, you know, if you were all of a sudden spending money, they were bringing you in and checking your alibi, figuring out where you got the cash. So, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa. It says here that you ordered two hash browns this morning. Usually you only have one.

What's going on, Big Spender? Hey? Suddenly come into a lot of cash, have we? Oh, you were buying one for your son? No. Wow. And where did he get the money? Where did he come from?

Did you buy a son? What do you mean? Your wife? What are you talking about? God doesn't know how much. There's a white board. Okay. That seems disgusting.

Oh my God. And people do this? Over the course of their investigation, they spent $29 million. The FBI spent $29 million trying to solve the $2.7 million robbery. Because they arrested half of America. Yeah, that's true. So many hours spent, so many offices and agents on the case.

Wow. But according to the Washington Post, they were getting nowhere. They just, it's sort of, it was seen as almost the perfect crime. Right. And I suppose the more money you spend, the longer you spend on it, the more people are getting away with it. The more embarrassing it is for the FBI, right? So you're like, we just got to keep spending. Yeah, well, another thing, which I'll mention a bit later,

there's another reason why there's a bit of urgency, and that's because there's a six-year statute of limitations. Only six years. That does seem short, doesn't it? So then if they're aware that the FBI is going to be looking at people who are suddenly spending a lot of money, you just continue living your normal life, making really small upgrades if you want to,

and then after six years, buy a mansion. That's really interesting to say it because a lot of sources actually say that was the pact that some of them made. Wow. But apparently that's not actually true. That was, there's been a few movies made about it, fictionalized versions. And in one of those, they made that deal. So people have started to think that was real, including like, you know, I think history.com even, one of these sort of websites even say it. But this author, Stephanie Scoro, she's like, yeah, that's not, that didn't actually happen.

Yeah, wow. But that would have been smart. Would have been smart. Six years is so short. Yeah. Wow. He's slow low. Played cool for six years and then they cannot arrest you.

Certainly don't commit lots of crimes. Yeah. That's what I would do. Yeah, I'd be like one and done. Yeah. This is my last big job. Yeah. That's what I'd say.

I'm going to get the gang back together just for one last job. Yep. They started receiving theories, the FBI this is, and tips from across the country. They also brought in many locals with criminal records. and check their alibis. The tips included a fair few wild guesses. Someone from the other side of the country from California contacted the FBI and said that the money might be hidden in the ocean.

Why is that funny, Dave? The ocean's very vast. They spent $50 million looking for that. We're on it. We've dragged the ocean and it wasn't there. We traded the islanding and pumped it into the beach. Pacific and then vice versa. All right, fine, other coasts, let's do it.

Let's do it. A more promising piece of information was picked up when interviewing witnesses who were in the vicinity of the Brinks officers on the night of the robbery. They heard that a 1949 green Ford truck had been parked next to the Brinks building around the time of the crime. It's the kind of truck that could probably carry a ton or so of, you know, cash or other. things. And it was painted green. It was painted green. A ton of feathers.

A ton of feathers. Pretty compact. Man, I remember that blow on my mind when I was in high school. That was like a trick question on a test. Yeah. Oh, what weighs more? A ton of feathers or a ton of bowling balls. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I wonder. I think it's bowling balls. Yeah. Okay. Wait what? Yeah. I've made a fool of myself in front of everybody. Well, I'll certainly not worry about this for the rest of my life. Ah, the quiet moments in bed. I needed something to think about.

I needed something to reflect on at 3 a.m. So this seemed like a likely key bit of evidence or intel. And yeah, they saw it that way and they pursued it, but the truck was not able to be located. There was also talk coming from the criminal world as to who might be responsible. Got in the FBI, rumors pointed suspicion at several criminal gangs, including members of the Purple Gang of the 1930s who found renewed interest in their activities.

I love the name of this gang. The Purple Gang. Was they headed by Grimmis or? Yeah. Grimus was there. Barney. The dude mob bosses. I wouldn't fuck with Barney.

No, I don't even think of it. Maybe Grimmis. You'd fuck with Grimis? I could take Grimmis. Wow. I couldn't take Barney. I feel like Grimis could take your punches though. Yeah, you're right.

He just absorbed them. Yeah, he'd just smile at you. You're like, I'm throwing everything I've got at this. Yeah, it's just smiling. Yeah, ironically not grimacing at all. What if I punched him off a cliff? How about that? I reckon he would have a soft landing, just in himself.

Yeah, but he's not bothering me anymore. That's true. He's down there. Then you go down to the bottom of the cliff and go, ha, in your fate. Oh, no. Now I've got to punch him up a cliff. Great. I'm not going to make my dinner reservation.

At the family restaurant. McDonald's. Hopefully he's not there, I assume he won't be. Oh, God, God, grimmish. This guy's everywhere. He's trying to have a meal. Just trying to have a hash brand with my son. So I looked down, I'm like, oh, the purple gang, they're obviously like, they must have been a Boston gang from the time. I looked into them. Apparently, they're also known as the Sugarhouse gang, who dominated Detroit's underworld in the 20s and 30s, but imploded with infighting. So a gang from a different state who didn't even really exist anymore. They were even being looked into. Oh, right. Yeah, this is two decades after the impulsion. It must have been those purple guys. There's a rumor going around the underworld

from these local Bostonians who were there on the night. They saw it. Yeah, all the people that have committed the crime are like, oh, no, it wasn't us. I heard it was the purple gang. Yeah. Have you looked into grimace? I don't trust him. The FBI continues. Another old gang that had specialised in hijacking bootlegged whiskey in the Boston area during Prohibition became the subject of inquiries. Again, the FBI's investigation resulted merely in the elimination of more possible suspects. I think that was a lot of what they were doing was looking into people and ruling people out. Ruling them out. So when you say eliminating, they're not just killing just in case. Well, you'd say you rule out. How do you rule things out? Well, even if you didn't

do it, you'll never do it again. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, the boss just keeps saying, yeah, rule out another possible suspect and winking. You know what I mean. Oh, kill grimace. Okay. Of the hundreds of New England hoodlums contacted by FBI agents in the weeks immediately following the robbery, few were willing to be interviewed, interestingly.

Hoodlums are normally very loose-lipped. Yeah. Normally like, yeah, what do you need? Yeah. I'm here for you. Don't we grab every cup of tea and then let's get into it? Yeah. I saw it all.

I'll tell you everything. You grab a pad, grab a pen. Yeah. Let's chat. Yeah. Are you comfy on that chair? Do you want to swap? You get, you're right?

Okay. A light detector test is invented yet? I'll do one. I'll do one. I baked cookies also. Would you like some? They're very good. What kind of cookies?

Peanut butter. Oh my God. Chocolate chip. Oh, yes. There's a lot going on. I'm back in. All right. You were off?

All right. You've sold me. I'll take your information. Yeah. Occasionally an offender who was facing a prison term would boast that they had hot information. I got hot gas. Yeah. Basically like, you get me out of jail.

Yeah. I'll give you the robbers. And obviously that never came to anything. One Massachusetts racketeer, a man whose moral code mirrored his long years in the underworld, confided to the agents who were interviewing him. Quote, if I knew who pulled the job, I wouldn't be talking to you now because I'd be too busy trying to figure out a way to lay my hands on some of the loot. The massive information gathered during the early weeks of the investigation was continuously sifted.

efforts to identify the gang members through the chauffeur's hat, the rope and the adhesive tape, which had been left at the brinks, proved unsuccessful. It's not a lot to go on. This rope, you know. And this is before DNA testing and stuff and CCTV and all those things that now would be, make it very, a lot easier to figure out. And DNA testing is like more recent than we think, isn't it? Yeah. I have talked about it at some point. Yeah. Yeah, I remember being surprised by 1986. Wow. According to the NCBI government website, and I trust the NCBI. With my life.

With Jess's life. Yeah, so that is way more recent than I thought. A breakthrough in the investigation occurred in the early months of 1950, though, according to Robert E. Thomason, writing for the New York Times, several months after the robbery, two small boys from Somerville, Massachusetts, five miles north of the Brinks building, found two guns on a beach at Mystic River. And you'll remember that they noted down the serial numbers and all that sort of stuff of the guns that were taken. Yeah.

Well, according to the FBI, shortly after these two guns were found, one of them was placed in a trash barrel and was taken to a city dump, never to be seen again. The other gun, though, was picked up by a police officer and identified as having been taken during the Brinks robbery. The serial number matched. Wow. A detailed search for additional weapons was made at the Mystic River, but they didn't find anything. But, you know, this was a little breakthrough. Didn't give them directly anyone, but it gave them an area to search for. They're like, oh, this area may be the people on our suspects list who are from around here will focus on them a little bit more.

And you know what the beach is right next to? The ocean. I've got a feeling that that loot is hidden somewhere out there. Yeah. Get the pump. The wet bandits. That's got their... Yeah.

They're wet sopping hands. all over it. They're M-O. M for Moist. Their moist operator. Another breakthrough occurred on the 4th of March, 1990. You remember the Green Ford truck? Well, it was finally located. On the beach.

It was chopped up in a tiny pieces at a rubbish tip in Stoughton, Massachusetts. Someone chopped up a truck? Chopped up a truck in a small pieces, yeah. So they used some sort of a, like a, you know, like a laser. Sword. A laser sword. Wow. A lightsaber.

Yeah, a light saber. So, yeah, someone chopped it up and then another person came along and obviously went, this looks like a truck puzzle. Yeah. I'm going to put it back together. Yeah. Apparently, according to FBI, as well as being cut up into small pieces, it also appeared that a sledgehammer had been used to smash many of the heavy parts,

such as the motor. So the truck pieces were considered. sealed in fibre bags, and had the ground not been frozen, they assumed that they probably would have buried it, but it just wasn't possible to bury it. I couldn't dig into the ground. It was frozen solid. You know what makes it freeze? Water.

And where's the most water in the world? Why doesn't the ocean freeze? I think it does up in the Arctic. Whoa. Whoa. In Antarctica. Wow. Wow.

Sometimes just that, you know, the beach in Victoria feels a bit chilly, doesn't it? Yeah, right on the edge of reason. The truck found at the dump or the tip had been reported stolen by a Ford dealer near Fenway Park in Baston on November 3rd, 949. Is that about right? Perfect. So it was a stolen truck. It was a stolen truck. It was brand new stolen from a Ford dealer.

Oh, from a dealer, I don't care. We found your truck. Awesome. Where is it? I'll come pick it up. It's chopped up into time of this. Uh-huh. Okay.

And where are the pieces? Yeah, for a second there, I was like, oh, no, because I imagine somebody had just bought their dream car. But it's from a dealer, I don't care. Whatever. They were, the dealer got a call to come and collect their cube. That's about my cube. All efforts to identify the person's responsible for the theft and the persons who had cut up the truck were unsuccessful. The fiber bags used to conceal the pieces were identified, so they were looking into everything

because they were fiber bags. They were able to figure out that they had been used as containers for beef bones shipped from South America to a gelatin manufacturing company in Massachusetts. Thorough inquiries were made concerning the disposition of the bags after their receipt. This phase of the investigation was pursued exhaustively, but it ultimately proved unproductive. So it seemed like they would have been like, all right, we're getting somewhere? Oh, okay. Are they involved in the meat trade somewhere?

Yeah, they work at that factory. They, cows. Can't rule anything out at this point. That's right. We're draining the ocean and we're interviewing cows. Well, interrogating. Sea cows? Sea cows.

I think this is starting to add up. Sea cows, I think. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking it is. And I know who it was. Sea cows. Sea cows.

Despite this, the location of the tip was near where two of the FBI's suspects lived. Joseph Spex O'Keefe and Stanley Gus Gassoria. Okay, so... Gassora. So the first one, he wears glasses. Mm-hmm. Second one, oh, his last name has Gus in it. Yeah.

And otherwise, it's hard to say, and so nobody would try. They'll just call him Gus. They do nicknames over there like we do them here. Ah! That guy wears glasses all the time? Specks. Oh, you mean specs? Love that.

That is exactly right. According to Thomas and he got his nickname from his almost... habitual wearing of horn rim glasses. Yeah. He almost always wears them. Almost always. You know, like anyone who wears glasses.

Yeah, almost always wearing them. So the thing is, I couldn't see very well without them, and I like to see things. So I wore them a lot. And they call me specs. A lot of backstory here,

that's beautiful. Thank you for this rich tapestry. So Keith and Gassora. Specks and Gus. They had a history of committing crimes together and separately. It's nice. FBI honed further in on them. They're like these two.

Makes some sense. They got a hobby and they've found somebody with a shared passion. Yes. And they're just partaking in a hobby together. They happen to live near a tip that had a chopped up car. I think that's really nice, actually. That's right. But they're also mature enough to work separately as well.

Yeah. I think that's so healthy. Yeah. You know, you have to have your own lives. They like Hamish and Andy. Yes. They do their own things. They come together.

That's beautiful. It is beautiful. Oh, man. his FBI, like, oh, you boys, like, what are you mean? In this day and age? Come on. It's disappointing. It is. I mean, it wasn't in this day and age, of course. It was in 1950, but still. Wow, I see today in the 1950 is the same. Yeah. According to the FBI, local officers searched their homes. This is Gus and Specks, but no evidence linking them with the truck or the robbery was found. In April of 1950,

year. So they'd be pretty comfortable at this stage. Still over five and a half years for this statute of limitations to wind up. I've got heaps of time. Heaps of time. And heaps of cash to spend. Takes some annual leave. Yeah. Go on holiday.

Yeah, we'll figure this out. We'll get there. Let's let our subconsciouses work on this for a bit. Yeah. Sometimes you need to walk away from it being a new setting, you know, be thinking about something different. So why you have breakthroughs in the shower. Yes.

I think you go on holiday, sit on a beach for a day. you're going to crack this case. And have a mimosa. So in April, the FBI received information indicating that part of the Brinks loot was hidden in the home of a relative of O'Keefe in Boston. A federal search warrant was obtained, and the home was searched by agents on April 27, 1950. Several hundred dollars were found hidden in the house, but could not be identified as part

of the loot. And how do you explain this? Yeah, keep a little bit. little bit of cash around the house just in case. Yeah. Yeah, I can't remember I said it, but they, one of the first things the FBI did was contact all people who had money and stuff stored, figuring out if there were any identifying marks on any of the notes or anything like that. It was all fully exhaustive. And then the new notes, they knew the numbers on those and stuff. So they had a way to track a lot of the notes that were taken. Yeah. Another reason why you'd be

smart as the robbers not to spend the money because you just increase your chance of being found But they're hoping that people would remember what marks were on their money. That's what it seems like, yeah. Isn't that wild? Yeah, I write my name in the bottom right-hand corner of every single note, so I know it's mine. Both men, Gus and Spex, had been on the FBI's suspect list since the robbery occurred. So that was some of the locals that were like.

But I mean, that's true of, you know, the whole Boston crime scene. So that's not surprising. They were both brought in for questioning at the time. And according to the FBI, neither had too convincing of an alibi. O'Keefe claimed that he left his hotel room in Boston at approximately 7 p.m. On January 17, 1950. Following the robbery, authorities attempted unsuccessfully to locate him at his hotel.

His explanation, he'd been drinking at a bar in Boston. Pretty good excuse. Some bar. Which bar? You know, no, the bars. The bar. The bar. What's that the bar?

As in the bar. The bar-all, for the other Americans listening. Gassora also claimed to have been drinking that evening. A lot of the key suspects in the end, their alibis were similar. They left at about 7 o'clock and they went out drinking at a bar. Like, gosh, I wish we could fact check this some way. I guess they were all drinking. At a bar.

Another early suspect was a man named Anthony Fats Pino. I had he got his nickname. Did he have a Fats Pino? I guess so. It's really big. Well, it's girthy. Yes, it's girthy. It's really what.

It's got an earthy smell and a girthy feel. He had been the prime suspect in multiple major robberies, and it was said that the Brinks job bore a resemblance to his work. Apparently, he was great at casing jobs. He was known for studying a job and just meticulously. planning. He was a Virgo. But not a virgin.

No. Not Fats Pino. The different things, are you know, it's so funny when I come in here with a story. And it's never the things I think that you're going to goop onto. I mean, you thought we'd get the answer and we did it because we're idiots.

But yeah, we're going to pick up on Fats Pino. You didn't know where JFK was from, but you did know. Well, Larry Bird played for a decade or so. Yeah. I mean, and I was being a. bit rough on you because all those other ones were really red herrings, right? Because Julia Todd was born

elsewhere and she just lived there for a bit. So, you know, putting them all together. I was rough and I apologize. You're forgiven, but not forgotten. Never forget me. Never forget you. Right. So, but that sounds like the kind of job that he is involved with. Yes. It sounds like they knew everything they're in, they're out. They knew how to get through four locked doors. We ever know how they got through those? Yeah, no. So, there's still thinking, is it an inside? job or, you know, because I mean, they're honing in on a few of these key suspects, but they're also honing in on a lot of others as well. The purple gang, they haven't ruled them out. Most of them are dead now. But I wouldn't put it past them. Apparently, yeah, when they implode, that gang imploded.

They infighting led to them killing a lot of each other, that purple gang, but that's a whole another thing. Wow. This took each other out. Yeah. But still on the suspect list. Can't rule anyone out at this. So according to the FBI, Fats Pino had been questioned as to his whereabouts on the evening of January 17th. And he provided a good alibi, probably one of the better ones. Almost too good, the FBI thought. Okay. Pino had been...

I wasn't born yet. Damn it, he's good. I'm a baby. I'm a widdle baby. God. Here's my birthday. You have nowhere to fact jacket. It looks legit.

Yeah, because I remember like IDs. in the olden days were just like handwritten with a photo sticky taped on. I am Fats Pino, I am two years old. Yeah. Okay. I'm a baby. Go-go-Gaga. So his alibi was that he was at his home in Boston until approximately 7pm.

And this comes up a lot, almost like they're all, all these people where, yeah, if anyone asks, he left home at 7 p.m. Right. Then he walked to a nearby liquor store owned by Joseph McGuinness. Subsequently, and McGinnis as well, was a. an underworld figure. Subsequently, he engaged in a conversation with McGinnis and a Boston police officer. The officer verified the meeting, so the alibi was strong, but the FBI were still like,

you know, it's, it's not conclusive because a trip from the liquor store to the Brinks officers could be made in about 15 minutes, and Pino could have been at McGinnis's liquor store shortly after 7.30 and still have made it to the robbery. So they're like, I mean, if this was planned, you know, go meet this cop, just hey, yeah, hey, just hanging out. Certainly not up to anything weird. We'll be heading home with my bottle of whiskey or whatever. Yeah. And then race stop.

So they're like, it's not out of the question. It would have been hard to do, but it's possible. And like I say, McGuinness, the licensor owner was another, he was quite a big figure in the Boston crime world. And according to the FBI, underworld sources described him as fully. capable of planning and executing the Brinks robbery. He too had left his home shortly before 7pm on the night of the robbery and met the Boston police officer soon after at his liquor store. On June the 12th, 1950, Gus and Specks were arrested in Pennsylvania on unrelated crimes. This is another little breakthrough in the case because when they're in custody, they can, you know,

keep their eyes on them. They can interview them for longer. Lean on them a bit. Exactly. So they were found in possession of the loot from burglaries they committed in Pennsylvania. So, I mean, if they were involved in the Boston robbery, they certainly weren't lying low. Right. They're just, you know, just committing more burglaries. Spex was sentenced to three years jail and Gus was found guilty on a different burglary charge. He was found not guilty on that one, but they're like, but we got you on this other one. and was sentenced to five years plus in jail.

Both Garst and Spex fought their convictions in the years following being found guilty. According to the FBI, between 1950 and 1954, the underworld occasionally rumbled with rumours that pressure was being exerted upon Boston hoodlums to contribute money for these criminals' legal fights against the charges in Pennsylvania. So they're in jail and they're employing lawyers and stuff. and then the rumors are that they're contacting Boston criminals going, hey, you should be funding this. You should be getting us out of this strife over here.

The names of Pino, Feth Pino, McGuinness, as well as a guy called Adolf Jazz Mafi, and a Henry Baker were frequently mentioned in these rumors. And it was said that they had been with Spex O'Keefe on the big job. So the FBI are thinking from the rumors, they're hearing in the underworld that all these names are involved. Right, and they're in jail now being like, you better help us out. Yeah.

You don't want to squeal. Yeah. There's so many great nicknames. I think Adolf Jazz Mafie's right up there. Incredible. You don't hear of many Adolfs anymore. No. I'm lucky.

So this is 1950. You know, he would have been born in the 20s or something. Back when Adolf was still cool. Yep. He was stoked. As a name. When he was stoked when he got the nickname Jazz. Yeah, he's like, yep, that's it.

Jazz it is. Whatever. Don't worry about it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, 1950 Adolf was really on the out. Yeah. He'd already been questioned about his whereabouts, Jazz Mafia, on the night of the robbery,

but wasn't able to give any coherent alibi. Henry Baker's alibi was also far from watertight. It was one of my favorite ones of all the alibis that come up. After the robbery, he told police that he went for a two-hour walk by himself around the neighborhood in the hours of six. 7 to 9pm when the robbery took place. A two-hour walk. Not the greatest alibi unless he's knocking on the doors of like cops or something.

He said, no, I didn't say anyone. No one else was out. Between 7 and 9. Yeah. No one, okay. Such a strange and long time to just go for a walk around the streets. Unlucky for him because it makes him look like he might have been involved. Yeah, yeah.

But really he was just getting his steps in. Yeah, getting his steps in. And he's ahead of the time with that, you know. He was letting his subby do a bit of work on a... That's right. He was working on. some material for the upcoming comedy festival. That's right.

Yeah. How else is he going to try it? Yeah. In front of a mirror? Come on. Come on. Come on. Don't be ridiculous.

Come on. He feels foolish doing that. Yeah. But when you're wondering, everyone has a different process. And Baker's is walking around the neighbourhood for two hours exactly. Years passed and Spex O'Keefe and Gus continued to stay silent, despite the FBI coming to interview them in prison fairly regularly.

They keep coming back to them thinking that, you know, they're separated from who they think the rest of the gang is. Maybe they're the ones that will turn. Why would they turn, though, unless you're offering them a deal or something? Yes. The FBI continued trying, though, is they hoped that a rift might open. They kept trying, and they kept failing. Oh, dear.

But they're thinking, you know, you're inside. Hey, those other guys, they're out there living it up. They're living it up. They're talking about how you're a couple of losers. They're saying, ugh. Those glasses he always wears. What is he not see good or something? He looks terrible.

Man, how about this Adolf guy? That's his real name. Don't believe him when he says it's jazz. Yeah, that's all ice. Jazz Mafia. So they were pretty confident, the FBI were pretty confident that Spex, Gus, Jazz, McGinnis, Baker, that's Pino, and others including James Faradie, Joseph Banfield, Thomas, Sandy Richardson, Vincent Vinnie Costa, and Michael Geegan were the culprits.

They had this gang and they're like, all the talk is around these ones being involved. Another, that's not even a nickname, Michael Geegan. Yeah, Geegan. Love it. Unfortunately, though, there were just no hard evidence and none of the suspects were talking. All the people that could get to talk were full of shit,

you know, get us out of jail. We'll tell you who did it. But all the people who they think could actually tell the story were, you know, refusing to speak. They all had different levels of alibis. A lot of them were about drinking in bars. I love the one about going for walk, but my other favorite was Joseph Banfields. According to the FBI, he was not able to provide a specific account of what he was up to on the night in question,

claiming that he became drunk on New Year's Eve and remained intoxicated through the entire month of January. Because the robbery happened mid-January. That's a solid alibi. I was drunk. I was drunk from New Year's Eve. They're like, it was January 15. Yeah? Yeah.

Yeah. What's your point? I was on to a good thing. I was having a good time. Yeah, you don't get hung over if you just stay drunk. I'm drunk. I'm drunk. I'm drunk right now.

I'm drunk right now, officer. Can I just say, a uniform loser, very pretty? I'm just maintaining a healthy buzz officer. Okay. I can drive. I can go to work. I actually drive better when I've had a couple. Don't tell your friends.

Apparently the FBI spoke to one of his ex-girlfriends, and she was like, No, I saw him that night. He certainly wasn't drunk. Well, he just sold him out straight out. I was drunk the whole month. Some people, you know, you can't always tell, especially if he's just keeping a real healthy buzz. Yeah. You know, he's not slurring like I just was then when I was acting.

Yes. He was microdosing. Yeah. How would she know? A couple sips. This is an ex-girlfriend? Yes. What would she know?

She sounds bitter. There's a reason they've split up and it's because she doesn't know him. She doesn't get him. You know? She wasn't in it for the right reasons. She didn't want to connect. She doesn't know. Yes.

She was in denial about his state. He was pissed. And not angry. I mean, like, drunk. Okay. While the suspects weren't talking to the authorities, there were rumours circulating that there were fractures appearing behind the scenes, which is exactly what the FBI is hoping for.

Okay. But time was of the essence because the clock was ticking. Ah. And, yeah. So years have gone by now. And then on November the 25th, 1952, a federal grand jury began hearings in Boston about the robbery. According to the FBI, after nearly three years of investigation, the government hoped that witnesses or participants who would remain mute for so long might find their tongues. That's a quote from the FBI.

Okay. I think that's fun phrasing. It's in your mouth, mate. But unfortunately, this proved to be an idle hope. After completing its hearings on January 9, 1953, the grand jury retired to weigh the evidence. In a report which was released on January 16, 1953, the grand jury disclosed that its members did not feel they possessed complete positive information as to identify the participants in the robbery, because one, the participants were effectively disguised, two, there was a lack of

eyewitnesses to the crime itself, and three, certain witnesses refused to give testimony, and the grand jury was unable to compel them to do so. So they had this whole big grand jury and they're like, there's no, there's no, not enough evidence for this. Thank you though. Thank you so much. Thanks for getting us to look into it. Hey, good job.

Yeah. But, um, bad job. They were just, the whole thing was them just hoping someone would talk and then no one talked. But, you know, it was just nice to get together. That's right. That's nice to catch up. Worth a shot.

Yeah. The following year in January, 1954, specs was released from jail, only for another jurisdiction to start a separate burglary trial against him. It just seems like he gets out and someone's like, oh, we'll grab him. Yeah. We go, yeah, we go one. Yeah. While waiting for trial, though, he was released on bail, which is wild to me. He seems like a real flight risk. But he headed home to Boston. Baston. Baston. And at this time, he was in and out a few times on bail, different charges, it or out. And when he was out, he'd go back to Boston, end up talking to some of these people, you know, and the FBI would see him go and visit them, have long discussions with

them. And it sort of seemed when he was back in town, the underworld there got a little anxious. There were rumours circulating that he was out to get Jazz and Baker, as he believed they had screwed him out of some of the money. That were some of the people supposedly he'd been asking to help fund him, and maybe they were minding some of his money. Okay. Luckily for Jazz, he'd been locked up himself on a tax evasion. charge so he was sort of outside of Spex's reach because Spex was a hard man of crime. It was sort of like a heavy.

He didn't want to fuck with him. Yeah, exactly. He was a real grimace. Yes. He'd take off his glasses and then he'd fuck you. Yeah. I don't mean sexually. He'd fuck you up.

He'd fuck you up. Take the glass. The glasses come off and you think, oh no, this is getting serious. Yeah. I'm about to lose my thumbs. Yeah. But he doesn't want to look. It's gross, obviously.

So he takes a glass of up. It's blurry, but that does mean he often missed. Yeah. Yes. He aims for your thumbs, but you might get your pinky. Oh, dear. To be honest, I'd prefer my pinky, so thank you. Yeah, yeah. How would I text? How would I text without my pinky? I text for that pinky.

I know. I kind of want to get rid of your pinky. Teach you a lesson. You look like an idiot. It is a weird style you have. Around the same, so Jazz is lucky. He's locked up. He's out of harm's way. Around the same time, Baker, who was the other one who the rumors were saying, he might be in the gun. He left town for a bit. He went on a vacation with his wife. Lovely. Possibly because he heard the rumors himself, you know. So things seem kind of quiet in Boston. Spex is around. He seems like he's a bit upset, but nothing's really happening.

But apparently, according to the FBI, this didn't last long. Two weeks of comparative quiet in the gang members' lives were shattered on June 5, 1954 when an attempt was made on O'Kee. Keith's life. An automobile had pulled alongside O'Keefe's car during the early mornings, the early hours of June the 5th. Apparently suspicious, O'Keefe crouched low in the front seat of his car and the would-be assassins fired bullets that pierced a windshield, but missed him. So luckily, he just saw this car and he's like, oh, that's a bit weird. Seems weird, yeah. I'll duck. A second shooting incident occurred on the morning of June the 14th, So a week and a bit later, someone had to go on him again.

Did he duck again? Well, no, this one, he sort of brought on himself a little bit more because him and one of his associates paid a visit to Baker. They found him. And Baker was apparently getting real nervous and he was feeling very anxious when he got the knock at the door from O'Keefe. And he pulled a gun on O'Keefe shot multiple times. And O'Keefe shot multiple times back and neither of them got hit.

No, there's a point black cream. Missed each other, Baker fled, not injured at all. One shot in the air, one shot into the ground. That'll teach him. A third attempt on O'Keeffe's life was made on June the 16th, a couple days later. More than 30 shots were fired, probably from a machine gun. Wow. And O'Keefe was wounded in the wrist and chest, but again he managed to escape with his life,

relatively minor injuries. Police who arrived to investigate found a large amount of blood, a shattered wristwatch and a 45 calibre pistol at the scene. Five bullets which had missed their mark were found in a nearby building. On June the 17th, 1954, the Boston police arrested Elmer Trigger Burke and charged him with possession of a machine gun. Subsequently, this machine gun was identified as having been used in the attempt on O'Keefe's life.

Burke, a professional killer. I mean, it's hard to say it wasn't me when your nickname's Trigger. Yeah. It's an ironic nickname. I'm an accountant. You know, I pull the trigger and people don't pay. tax, you know? You want me to file this?

You want me to pull the trigger? You ready? That's one of the things I say. Filed. It's just like a fun catchphrase I have. It's fun, the trigger. I'm fun! I'm a fun accountant.

So Triggered been hired by someone to take out O'Keefe. Right. Maybe Fats Pino. Maybe Fats Pino? That's what the rumours were. Okay. So this rift is really building between Yes.

O'Keefe and Gus and the The rest of the suspects. And the rest. Trigger, he killed a lot of people. He was broken out of jail soon after this, but ended up getting done on a murder charge and was executed not too long after. Wow. Yeah.

He's like, this is how you treat your accountants? Come on. But I guess the three attempts on Spex life were enough to scare him into hiding. So he went away for a little while after this. Probably smart play, I reckon. I only took him to three attempts before he. You went, okay. All right, I get the hint.

You don't want me around. I knew that something was wrong when you shot my watch, okay? I love that watch. That's how I told the time. My watch was like a son to me. Yeah, so he was in hiding for a while, but the police found him a few months later. and on the 1st of August he was sentenced to 27 months in prison for violating a probation.

Oh, right, you're not supposed to get shot. I think he had guns on him and stuff. He was just doing a few things he shouldn't have been doing. Right. And it just seems like he just robs places all the time. Yeah. He was held in a prison in a different county for his own safety. They're like, we can't hold him in Boston because obviously there's people in the Boston scene that are after him.

His associate who accompanied him to that meeting with Baker where they just sort of shot around each other. He wasn't so lucky. He disappeared on the 3rd of August and has never been seen again. It's believed that he was probably killed because of his association with specs. Oh, he went to Fiji. Exactly. He could have lived, yeah, we don't know.

He could have lived the best life. He could still be alive. Yeah, he'd be old. Yeah, he could be any. It could be like, maybe it's Tom Brady. You know what I mean? Maybe. He's old.

Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. checks out. We don't know. We can't say for sure. I haven't seen Tom Brady's birth certificate. You haven't?

Oh man. Have you? Yeah. Oh man. Whenever I catch up, you're showing me that thing. This says Tom Brady. I am a little baby. Yeah.

But it's dated 1950. So that makes him quite old. So he just add plus 70 years. You're a mathematician. So Akief seemed to assume that Pino was behind the disappearance. He also assumed that Pino was probably behind the attempts on his life. Okay, you can't trust that's Pino.

And he suggested to FBI agents, subtly, but he said if he got out of jail again, he was going to take out Pino. He said it subtly, though. He said it subtly, though. He said, he might follow himself a bit of mischief. Right. But he said over the Boston.

I'll take Pino out for a Pino, if you know what I mean. Better than the Boston accent. Yeah. Despite all this, he maintained, he knew nothing about the Brinks job. And this was back. bad news for the FBI as they saw him as the most likely to turn. But the statute of limitations

only had about a year now left to run. So they were really running out of time. The mid-50s was a tough time for many of the suspects getting in and out of jail. And it was particularly bad for one of them, Banfield, because he died at the age of just 45 in January of 95. It seems like it was natural causes, but this is the guy who was supposedly drinking for a full month. Okay, no real surprise. Yeah. Meanwhile, that guy that went for a two-hour walk, his health is perfect. That's right.

He's doing very well. Turns out he wasn't lying. And he's the fittest man in the world. I've got a PT. Ever heard of it? Okay? Like, he went for a two-hour walk. The fittest man in the world.

What is this guy? Could you go for a two-hour walk? No. Yeah. That's what I thought. And I'm the second fittest man in the world. I know. I'm the fittest man in the world.

So, Keith remained in prison and he was fuming. Apparently, he was just stewing in his cell. He was writing letters to the other suspects back in Boston being like, hey, come on. What the hell? According to the FBI, it appeared to him that he would spend his remaining days in prison, while the other suspects would have many years to enjoy the luxuries of life. Even if released, he thought his days were numbered. He's like, you know, they're going to take me out if I'm out.

If I'm in, maybe I get to live. live a long life, but I'm in jail. There had been three attempts on his life, and he's like, they'll have another crack of me surely once I get out. Evidently resigned to long years in prison or a short life on the outside. O'Keefe grew increasingly bitter towards his old associates. He continued to hit them up for cash to help with his legal costs, but as time went on, he was more convinced that they were going to let him rot in jail.

I feel like it took him a while to take the hint. They've literally tried to kill him multiple times. He's like, what the hell guys? Guys, I've got some bills to pay. Whoa, whoa, I thought we were friends. Same guys. Now, I know that there was a bit of a misunderstanding when you had multiple people shoot at me. Yeah.

But I forgive you. Yeah. Because we're friends. Friends don't hold grudges. We've got a history. Right, guys? If you were on the outside, though, surely you'd go, oh, that wasn't us. Sure, we'll pay for your illegal bills until the day the statute comes up.

And then you go, you'll never hear from me again. That would be. Just keep paying. Keep him happy for six more months or whatever, nine months. Oh man. I think they could have used that kind of advice. Just spend, you know, you've got 30 million in today's money. Give him the million, whatever he needs for his law fees.

Do whatever you can, right, just to keep him happy. Because they must also know that he'd be the most likely to turn. Yeah, let's keep him happy. But this was the thing. They really were like, why would he talk? We're so close to the statute ending. If he talks, he's implicating. himself as well. Right. So they're like, he's not going to talk. I'm in here forever.

Yeah. May as well take out of these pricks. Yeah, exactly. So the FBI continued to try their luck, even though he was refusing to talk still. In the weeks leading up to the statute of limitations expiring, so there's only weeks left now. They visited him on multiple occasions, would not budge until he did. On the 6th of January, 1956, a week or so before the statute of limitations is up. When visited by two FBI agents, so Keith finally ready to turn informant said he'd tell them whatever they wanted to know. Basically was like, stuff him. Apart from Gus, he was fed up with the rest of him. He thought that they just left him high and dry.

I mean, they did? Yeah, it seems like they did a bit, yeah. But also, it seems like, I mean, he was pretty aggressive about things. They would have been like, can we just? Yeah. Whoa, whoa, shh, shh, shh, shh. And why are you committing burglaries? Yeah.

So soon after the burglary. Can you lay low, please? So over the following days, he spilled his guts telling them the full story in a series of exhaustive interviews. This gave the agents just enough time to corroborate his story and get arrest warrants with only six days to spare. Wow. So it was cutting it so fine. This is me if I was a police officer. I got six years to solve it.

No worries. That's ages. I'll get this done week before. I'm making arrests. You're calling around, hey, do you know anything about this? Have you heard about this crime? Fuck it out. It's funny because the FBI are quite proud of this investigation

and they did great work clearly following a lot of dead ends. But really, if specs didn't talk, they had nothing. It was just a bitter man. Yeah. That's all it was. They were just lucky that there was infighting, basically. Wow. And then so the way the statute works, if you've arrested someone by that time,

then you can have a two-year trial or whatever. The warrant is out. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Now I'm going to tell you, and this is basically a summary of his account of what happened, and it's been summarized on the FBI's own website.

So in the years before the robbery was carried out, all of the participants became well acquainted with the Brinks premises. Each of them had entered the premises on several occasions after the employees had left for the day. So they're just going in, having a look around, having a look around, checking it out, really getting to know it. This is in for a couple of years before this. It's like when you're doing a drama degree,

You've got to walk the space, feel the space, understand it. Explore the space. I love it when your drama degree comes out. Every year or so I get to talk about it once. That's good enough for me. Yeah, and you've chosen this when we're talking about them casing a drone. You're like, yes. Like in drama, when we're told to understand the space.

Exactly, feel it. Get into character. What kind of energy is the space giving you? What kind of gait would you have if you were in this space? Close your eyes. What if you were some sort of animals? from the jungle. Now walk around like that animal.

Now lay on the floor. Look at the stars. Look at the sky. What can you see? Is this pretty accurate to what they made you do? Man, I would have felt silly. Now, start just making some noises.

Anything. It's okay. Just make some noise and everyone's walking around. They're going, no. Full body cringing. I couldn't do it now, but yeah,

I committed back in the day. Oh, man. I mean, I love it. I'm jealous of people who can do it, but I just, oh man. It makes you think when I did some improv classes, I did with Alastair Trumblo Burtchal, the wacker for cloaca guy.

As he's always known to Jess. Yeah, I was like, who? And a few times he came up to me and he just put his hands on my shoulders and brought him down. So I was so, like, I was feeling so awkward and tense of my shoulders, but like right up next to my ears. I don't even realize it.

He's like, whoa, I think you're tense, man. Yeah, bring that down, bud. Do you're okay? That's so good. So, yeah, back to the summary of what happened. So during their forays inside the building, members of the gang were talking about how they figured out the locks. So when they were there,

they took the lock cylinders out from five different doors, including the one opening onto Prince Street. While some gang members remained in the building to ensure that no one detected the operation, other members quickly obtained keys to fit the locks. Then the lock cylinders were replaced. So they took the whole locks out to a locksmith. Oh my God. Got keys cut.

And then brought the lock back and put them back into the doors. I mean, that is impressive. But if you're able to do that, why can't you just do that on the day? Just take the lock out and walk in. Why do you need the key? We're able to remove the lock. We'll get a key, mate. Yeah.

Maybe it's way fast, so maybe it takes like hours or something to get it out. Right, yes. And you want it to be like a quick entry thing, but it is funny that you're like, we need a key for this lock that we can remove. It's just wild that they're able to have this much freedom in there. Yeah, they're just wandering around. So Pino, Fats Pino, previously had arranged for a locksmith to keep his shop open beyond the normal closing time on specific nights.

He would then take the locks to the man's shop and keys would be made. The locksmith claimed to have no knowledge of Pino's involvement in the bricks robbery, though. So the FBI found this guy. And he's like, oh, yeah, I know this guy. He made me open late. Yeah, those those keys like this. I had a lot of trouble at his house. Kept bringing in the lock.

He lost the key, so he brought in the entire lock at midnight a few times. A few different doors. He kept getting locked out. Silly, Mike. Anyway, Fats Pino, he's a forgetful guy. That's Pena for you. Fats Pino, he's a forgetful guy. That's where that's where that jingle comes from.

Yeah, that makes sense. Each of the five lock cylinders were taken on a separate occasion. The removal of the lock cylinder from the outside door involved the greatest risk of detection. A passerby might notice that it was missing, for instance. Accordingly, another lock cylinder was installed until the original one was returned. Okay, so if you walk past, there's a lock sitting there.

Yeah, that's right, and the door can be closed still. Again, and I thought, oh, why wouldn't they just switch them all out? and then they'd already have the key, but then the workers would come there be like, ah, keys aren't working. We'd better change the loss. Yeah. Damn it. Foyled again.

That's why I'm not a mastermind. Inside the building, the gang members carefully studied all available information concerning Brinks' schedules and shipments. The casing operation was so thorough that the criminals could determine the type of activity taking place in the Brinks offices by observing the lights inside the building. So they could be outside and they could be outside and they could. go, oh, these windows, lights are on, that means they're doing the counting. These lights are on. That means they're, you know, they're doing a different job.

Right. And the counting is very important because that's when the most money is there. Is that why they have to wait? The most money's there. It's also out in the open, basically. Right, because otherwise, why wouldn't you just, when you're there and no one else is, just grow all the money, but I suppose it's lost away. Because it's the takings of the day.

Yes. So there's this little window where it's, they're vulnerable, basically. It's out and about rather than in vaults. They know the security is in a certain area doing their check. somewhere else and all those sort of things. All right, checks out. Maybe I'm not like a criminalizer. Just rob them now.

We're here now. Let's do it. Let's grab that pen. It looks expensive. Dave's panicking on one of the casing of Bruce. There's no money here at the moment. Where's the money? There's a jar of lollies in the manager's office.

Take him. The fats pinot would blow his top. Dave. I would absolutely do this. We're not due to do this for another year. I was promised money. Considerable thought was given to every detail. When the robbers decided that they needed a truck,

it was resolved that a new one must be stolen because a used truck might have distinguishing marks and possibly would not be in perfect running condition. Shortly thereafter, in 1949, in November 1949, they took the Green Ford truck, and it was reported missing by a car dealer in Boston, but obviously it wasn't found. I love how they picked a guy.

green one as well. It feels like it's quite a distinct color. Yeah. You don't see that many green trucks. Maybe they were big back then. Yeah, that's true. Oh, just another green truck. During November and December of 1949, you know, a couple of months before the job, the approach to the Brinks building and the getaway route were practiced to perfection. The month preceding the January 17th robbery, they tried half a dozen times to do the job, but they were waiting for the perfect conditions. So they'd rock up. They'd just, check the lights. They go,

not, not now, not tonight. Keep driving. Yeah, six different times. The last time was just the night before where they, they drove up.

So they weren't going to, they weren't panicking. They weren't in a rush. There was no Dave Warnockys in the crew. Oh, let's just do it. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm antsy. Because every time that happens, you'd have to like psych yourself up. That's what I was saying. But by the sixth time, you're probably like, oh, Put your mask on.

Tell your wife, you'll be back in 10. You're like, fuck, of course we're doing it now. Oh, gosh. Great. I told her I drink milk. Yeah. Honey, I'm going for a two-hour walk. My shop's going to be closed by the time I'm done.

Oh, that's ridiculous. I'm carrying millions of dollars home. Oh. She doesn't give a shit. She just wants cereal. She wants milk. So during these approaches, a Costa, he drove in a separate Ford. It was almost like they were sponsored by Ford.

And he would set himself up on a, on the roof of a building overlooking the Brinks building. And he'd have a flashlight. And so he would signal to the, he'd have a better vantage point to tell what was going on, checking the lights and everything. And he'd have a flashing light sort of system to tell him whether the job was on or not.

Okay. So six times he gets up on this building, and goes, not tonight, not tonight. But eventually, on the 17th, it happens. He gives the right flash. Probably that. That's what I would do. Chip, chip, chip, chip, chip for yes.

Three chip chip. But a chip chip is five flashes. Are you watching his thumb at all? Oh, okay. So five for yes? Five for yes. Six for no. Hang on.

Was that five? Was that six? Fuck. Should have come up with a better system. So, it's the night of the robbery. They get the right. Chip, chip, chips. Chip, chip, chips.

7 p. You know, that time they all decided on, funnily enough. That was also the time of the robbery. Oh. And the members of the gang met at the Roxbury section of Boston and entered the rear of the Ford truck. Banfield, the driver, who was drunk that whole month. So the right guy of the drive.

He did try better as drunk. I'm better after a few shots. So he was alone in the front and in the back with Fats Pino, Spex O'Keefe, Baker, Farity, Jazz Mafie, Gus Gassora, Michael Keegan and Sandy Richardson. Can I ask, did the guy that met the... cop at the liquor store. Was he there? He wasn't there, no.

Oh, okay. So it wasn't like he had six times to run to the liquor store, talk to a cop. Oh no, sorry, you're right. Pino, what, Pino did do that, but the other guy, the guy's liquor store it was. Yeah, he wasn't. He was, it was in the gang, but he was more of an admin guy. Right, but Fas Pino did every time he have to try and get an alibi. Oh, my God. I never thought about that. Hey again, good to see you. Anyway, going to go. Of course. Oh, amazing.

He's like, we'll see you, see you tomorrow, cup. Maybe. If I'm not here, then I've done the robbery. What? No, what? Nothing. If I'm not here, it's because I'm robbing. No, that ain't.

Never mind. During the trip from Roxbury, Pino distributed Navy-type peacotes and the chauffe's caps to each of the seven men in the rear of the truck. Each man was also given a pistol and a Halloween-type mask. Each carried a pair of gloves. O'Keefe wore crape-soled shoes to muffle his footsteps, you know, like a mouse would. And the others wore rubbers. Rubbers?

Who are they fucking? Gotta be safe. It's such a funny detail to have that, you know, he wore a slightly different kind of soft shoe. Yeah, so that they knew that he was the leader. Yeah, but he wasn't. He was really one of the, you know, he was one of the heavy. But did he have to go in first or something? Like it could be the quietest of everyone.

And then everybody else's wear a tap shoes. A tap, a tap, a tap, a tap. Wait, is this a signal from... What does it mean? So the truck drove past Brinks officers and noted that the lights were out on one side of the building. And they're like, okay, the conditions look right to go ahead. Then everyone but Pino, that's Pino. And Banfield, the driver stepped out and waited for Costa's signal.

Costa, who was at his lookout post previously had arrived in his Ford sedan, which the gang had stolen from behind the Boston Symphony Hall a few days earlier. So they must have also been doing that. I hadn't thought about that either. Getting a new truck every night? Yeah, they steal it. Well, because they only, they stole that green truck, but in November. So they've had that the whole time, I think.

But they need the other Ford, yeah. Was only sold two days before, so they must have had to steal a few different cars for him. After receiving the go-ahead signal from Costa, the seven men walked to the Prince Street entrance of Brinks. Using the outside door key, they had previously obtained, the men quickly entered and donned their masks. It's interesting, it's seven people here because the reports from the people, the people were tied up. Even they couldn't agree on how many it was. Right. So they were sort of, they were saying between five and seven.

And are the masks all different or they all trying to be the same mask? Because that would make it, you know, more difficult to remember. Yeah. I think they're all, they're all different. But yeah, it would have been a better look to have all the same. Yeah, everyone's got the same like ghost mask or something. These masks, you know, mask technology wasn't what it is. Because they were sort of weird, they were kind of pretty freaky looking.

I'll show you one of them. Oh, wow, I hate that. That is terrifying. Oh, I hate that. It looks like a mannequin, doesn't it? Oh, why does it look like Michael Jackson? It does look a bit like Michael Jackson. I hate that.

It's a bit creepy. Apparently it's Captain Marvel mask. Okay. So, like, I don't think it's men. to look free. I hated that. That made me very uncomfortable. If I heard someone muffling at me like,

here on the ground, they're on the ground. I'd be like, oh my God, I'll do whatever this Captain Marvel wants. So, yeah, so they've donned their masks. Then the other keys in their possession enabled them to proceed to the second floor where they took the five Brinks employees by surprise.

When the employees were securely bound and gagged, the robbers began looting the premises. They took everything they could. They did find one lockbox, which had like the payroll for GM or some, some huge company, but they didn't have the tools to open it, so they had to leave it behind. And that was reported on a bit in the thing. It was like, it was always a bit sassy. There were reports of like, robbers take $2.7 million worth things.

Leave a million or so behind. The robbers carefully planned route inside Brinks was interrupted only when the attendant in the adjoining Brinks garage sounded the buzzer. They're like, oh shit. Before the robbers could take him prisoners, they're like, oh, this is another girl we're going to have to take. He just walked away, apparently just oblivious to what was going on. He didn't know what was happening.

He didn't know what was going on. He just walked away, and they're like, huh. Oh, close call. Great. They picked up the pace a bit, but like that guy had no idea until later what was going on. Immediately upon leaving, the gang loaded the loot into the truck that was parked on Prince street near the door. As they made their getaway, the Brinks employees worked themselves free and reported the crime. Banfield drove the truck to the house of Jazz Mafi's parents in Roxbury. The loot was

quickly unloaded and Banfield sped away to hide the truck. Geegan, who was on parole at the time, left the truck before it arrived at the home in Roxbury where the loot was unloaded. He correctly assumed he would be considered a strong suspect and wanted to begin establishing an alibi immediately. While the others stayed at the house to make a quick count of the loot, Pino and Faradie departed. Approximately one and a half hours later, Bantfield returned with McGuinness, the liquor store guy, and prior to this time, McGinnis had been at work. He had a pretty good alibi. He was more of an admin guy, I suppose. And he was also, I think he was the one that cut down the truck. He did a lot of work afterwards as well. The gang members who remained at the house soon dispersed to establish

alibis for themselves. Go into bars and stuff. Bad. We're going to bars. Before they left, however, approximately 380 grand was placed in a coal hamper and removed by Baker for security reasons. Pino, Richardson and Costa each took 20 grand and all of this was noted on a score sheet. Maybe like a Yartsy sheet or something like that. Yeah, that's good. Gotta keep track. Yeah, I love it. And also leave a bit of evidence.

Bit of evidence. Who's got what? Write down their full names and addresses. Copy of their license. Before removing the remainder of the loot from the house on January the 18th, the gang members attempted to identify incriminating eyes. items. So they also thought any marks or anything, they'd get rid of notes that had anything that was clearly marks. Right, like my name in the corner. So all your notes were in the bin. They also, they try to age the new money just to make it less obvious.

I'll do that thing on the stove. We could try and make it look old. Yeah. A little bit of tea, tea bags, burn the air. Tea bag is a different thing, Dave. But, you know. Teabag the money. Yeah, there's nothing to age the money like a little bit of a dip and stuff. grope. Weird phrase. Now the cap of? Yes, please.

Do you know remember those ads? No. Alfa T. Maybe Liptons? Maybe twinings. Ads really worked on you. They really worked. So they were looking for any pencil markings or anything like that, and they got rid of them.

On the night of January the 18th, Spex and Gus received 100 grand each from the loot. Akeef had no. place to keep that much money though and he told the interviewing agents that he trusted jazz mafie so implicitly that he gave the money to him for safe keeping except for five grand which he took before giving the cash over to mafie right so that's three of them got a hundred grand uh they got yes so they're keeping them on the score sheet or yeah i think i think it's all on the score sheet yeah yeah um but by the time it goes to mafie he'd already tried to store it in a car and it came it was back and forth a few times, but anyway, he gave it to Maffy, trusted him implicitly,

but as he told the FBI agents angrily, that was the last time he ever saw his share of the money. Okay, so he really thought they'd ripped him off. Oh, wow. So he was feeling like he'd been screwed. And if he had, that's a real big blue. I imagine they regretted that. Yes. If they hadn't done that, I imagine they were like, man, you're so paranoid.

While Maffy claimed that part of the money had been stolen from its hiding place, and the remainder had been spent in financing O'Keefe's legal defense in Pennsylvania, which is what he kept asking for. Other gang members accused Maffy of blowing the money O'Keefe had entrusted to his care. So it's unclear what had happened there. But I mean, I think, so part of it was stolen is not a great. I don't think most big-time criminals accept those sort of. Yeah.

I trusted you keep my money. Oh, yeah, I did, but it's gone missing. Oh, my gosh. Oh, no worries. Liverpool League, yeah. Oh, my God. What's my luck? Okay. Well, yeah, why don't you say so? Are you okay?

Are you alright? That would be pretty traumatic. Are you insured? O'Keefe was bitter about a number of matters. First, there was the money. Then there was the fact that so much Deadwood was included in his words. Deadwood, like McGuinness, Banfield, Costa and Pino. None of them were in the building when the robbery took place and they all got a cut, which seems pretty silly to me because he's talking about Banfield, the getaway driver. Yeah.

You need, surely need them. That's important. Costa, the lookout, who gave him the signal that it was okay to get. The watchman is not getting any cred. Come on. McGinnis, who, you know, did, and Pino as well, they weren't in there, but they, they seem like they were the brains of the operation. It was Pino's idea.

And doing a lot with the locks stuff. Yeah. And, you know, McGinnis got rid of the car and all those sort of things. He's really not valuing admin. No. Like, he doesn't understand that all that work needs to go into it. Many hands make light work. I was the only one who physically took the money.

But he didn't realize that, you know, wouldn't have got in there. Without all the other stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But it was interesting that he thought McGuinness didn't deserve the money when he'd like cut down the car and all that sort of stuff. But he was also enraged that pieces of the car were dumped at a tip right near his home. So that was one of the reasons why they were like, oh. It might be him, yeah.

So why did, if all the tips you could, you could have taken them anywhere. Why would you take it to somewhere near any of us? It doesn't make any sense. So it just seems like it was a little bit. lazy. Maybe go to somewhere where you can dig into the ground. Yeah. Florida. Yes. Yeah, chuck it in one of them swamps. Yeah. Maybe in the Bayou. I'm saying they're right? Mm-hmm. Uh, so after verifying his story, the FBI was able to arrest six members of the gang, Baker, Costa, Geegan, Mafie and McGuinness, and Pino. Uh, and they were

arrested on the 12th of January, 956, just coming up to the six-year anniversary. Oh, Wow, they would have thought we are home clear here. At that point, O'Keefe and Gassora were already behind bars, so they didn't need to be arrested again. And Banfield had died. He was the one who... Drunk for January. Drunk for January died very young, 45.

This left only Faradie and Richardson unaccounted for. They'd fled and were placed on the FBI's 10 most wanted fugitives list. They managed to avoid detection for months. until May the 16th when their hiding place in Dorchester, Massachusetts was uncovered. I know I'm saying Massachusetts is wrong. That must be so annoying to new listeners. I said it wrong as a joke for a while. Now I can't not say it like that.

But apparently they were just, they were in this hidden room inside a house and they did not leave it for those months. Right. Because they're worried that if they leave that room, they'll go to prison. Well, they'll be locked inside a room. Yeah, exactly. That's right. So the guy whose house that was another criminal guy, he ended up getting done for being an accessory after the fact.

Wow. Yeah. Before they were put to trial, Gus started getting sick. And when he was visited by a priest, he got up, fell over and died. Turned out he had a brain tumor. Oh. And so Gus and O'Keefe, that was O'Keefe's closest mate. He's the only one he actually liked.

Yes. In the end, for sure. According to the FBI, they had been close friends for me. many years, and when O'Keefe admitted his part in the robbery, he told of his high regard for Gassora. As a government witness, he reluctantly would have had to have testified against him, but Gassora had now passed beyond the reach of all human authority, and O'Keefe was all the more determined to see that justice would be done. Oh, right. But yeah, I think it was like this weird blessing almost that, I mean, for him in a very selfish way. His friend died, so he didn't have to

screw his friend over. The FBI continues. With the death of Gassora, only eight members of the Brinks gang remained to be tried. On January the 18th, O'Keefe had already pleaded guilty to his part in the crimes for a reduced sentence. The trial of these eight men began on the morning of August 6th, 1956, before Judge Files Forte, which is a fantastic name, in the Suffolk County Courthouse in Boston. More than 100 people took the stand as witnesses for the prosecution and the defence. The most important, of course, was Bex-O-Keefe. Probably the only one really required. Yeah.

Do you trust a man who has to have glasses? No. Who knows what he saw? He doesn't even know. I saw a blob and another blob, probably maybe up five blobs. And they all had blobby faces. One of them had a really fat pino.

And then there was a... I think this guy, Frank, Frank was involved. Oh, come on! This is a back of the girl. Frang! Thrown completely. of the bar. Specks carefully recited the details of the crime, clearly spelling out the role played by each of the eight defendants. And at 10, 25pm on October the 5th, 1956, the jury

retired to weigh the evidence. Three and a half hours later, the verdict had been reached. All were guilty. The eight men were sentenced by Judge Forte on October the 9th, 1956, each receiving a life sentence or more. Oh, wow. Yeah. Baker died in prison only a few years later in 1961. A few of the other ones died in prison, but they started getting released, you know, after like 13, 14, 15 years for good behavior and whatever.

They were paroled. And the last surviving member of the group was Adolf Jazz Mafie, who was released after serving 13 years. After his release, Maffy told the Washington Post, it was an adventure. Pino kept telling us money was in there.

He never stopped. It's hard to explain, but it was exciting. We were younger. of course I wouldn't do it now. It's so funny because you think of them as these, in my head it's always like old, hardened criminals. Yeah. And then you go, I was just these sort of young guys who were doing this wild thing.

Basically, one of the other ones got out and went back to his just normal job for the rest of his life, maybe 20 years or something. And apparently he always said to his kid that he hardly ever mentioned it. But when he did, it was basically like, there was money there to be taken. why not take it? That was this sort of logic. Say that to you, kids. There's money in like places like banks and you can just go take it. I think the logic was kind of like it doesn't really belong to anyone.

It's just money, you know? And that's what, you know, I think a lot of the public saw it that way as well. So these big companies, like insurance companies, these security companies, banks, you know, it's just money. They'll get more money. Yeah. They got lots of money. The bank will be okay. Exactly.

They'll be all right. So, Jazz Maffy lived till September 1988, dying at the age of 77. Spex O'Keefe, he was released from jail in 1966, the other saints on the only AFL VFL Premiership, and he assumed a new identity, presumably under the protection of the FBI. Right, and like no one tried to whack him in prison or whatever because he'd. Yeah, so. I think he was in protecting. of custody in prison basically.

And it's unknown what he got up to in his final decade of life as a free man. According to Thomas, and he died in a West Coast hospital under a false name in March of 1976 at the age of 67. When Thomas and the journalist tried to talk to the FBI agent about what he'd been up to, he wouldn't answer any questions. Oh. Even after he died, it's like, you know. So, yeah.

Even after he died, he stopped talking. Unbelievable. Wow. Rood. Come on, mate. Enough left to lose. Yeah, he was the loosest lip of them all. Yeah.

Reports vary on how much of the loot ended up being recovered by authorities, but it seems like the vast majority never was. Still to this day, according to the Daily Beast, only 60 grand of the money has been recovered. Wow, that's a drop in the ocean. Yeah. As reported in the Boston Globe in 2020, Stephanie Schro, who I was talking about before, who wrote a book about the high. The heist of the century.

Exactly. She said that while there are many theories of where the missing money went, the likely answer is that the robbers just quietly spent it. The rest might be buried somewhere, she said. I don't know if you'd call it bearing, but buried at sea is a thing. In the ocean, absolutely. But all indications are that the robbers spent the money little by little, often in investments that went bust or on gambling and boozing.

Oh, man. You've got to invest in stuff that won't go bust. Yeah. That's the trick. How do people not know that? One of them bought a house straight after for like a grand or something. So you think about the money and they're just getting like, you know, conservatively they're getting a hundred grand cuts. But they should be getting more if they were able to break it all down. But 100 grand and one of those grand buys a house.

It's by 100 houses. What a fortune that is. So when I said before that it's 30 million in today's money, that 30 million gets you a different thing now than it would have been as well in terms of houses. and stuff. Sorry to get all economic. I did a unit of economics in Year 11. I saw someone break it down recently. It was on TikTok and it was also English, but I think it was still, you know, relevant.

But like, you know, back in the day, even our parents' generation would buy a house for the equivalent of a year's salary for them. And now it's like six, seven, eight years salary for a bit of a shit hole, to be honest. Yeah. So that's just a wild kind of made me scream a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, houses went from a place to live to a place to invest in it. Yeah.

Somewhere along the line on it. I think it's for the best. That's why I have multiples. You bought 100 houses with your 100 grand. Yeah. I think that's fair. The fuck did you get 100 grand? You robbed a bank.

Money was there for taking. Why not take it? Dave. Oh shit. I said never talk about this, especially not in a microphone. Oh my God. Oh, I thought you were going to say especially not to Jess. Yeah, we can't trust it.

And I felt so left out for a second. I was like, what? What? It's the microphone. We said we were doing gigs in the UK last year. Really, we were just robbing bags. Aw. Ascaro continues, it was truly almost the perfect crime. No one was hurt in the robbery, and that is important to remember. People still wonder how a group of somewhat bumbling thieves were able to pull off such a well-timed hist. Think of the popularity of Ocean's 11 and its remakes.

The idea of a crime with fabulous loot in which no one is even scratched is always compelling. So she's, I mean, she's trying to sell her book, but she's, She's talking it up. And the highest, obviously, you know, it was kind of cinematic. And as such has been the inspiration for at least four different films. Wow. Including one called Brinks, The Great Robbery, starring Leslie Nilsson, but not a comedy. Aw.

And The Brinks Job starring Peter Falk. Peter Falk. Colombo himself. Wow. One more thing. Yeah. So that's the story of the Great Brinks Robbery. Oh.

Wow, incredible. We love a heist. And I'm amazed that we can still find ones that are that epic, that honestly, it would rank up there with one of the great heists. And I've never heard of it. No. I've never heard of it either. Been four movies.

That's right. I am a bit disappointed that it got so close to the statute of limitations and then they all got busted. I hated it too. But they are criminals. You're right. But that does add to the drama of the story. It doesn't have the fact that they were a week. They were a week from retirement.

Yeah. Literally, they could have retired on that money. And then the guy said, snitched them out because stupidly they didn't look after him. Yes, that was the only thing that pulled it apart was just the, yeah, one article said it. The only thing they didn't think about was group morale. Yes, but maybe, you know, the FBI pretty proud of it, whatever, but really it's just because the guy snitched.

Maybe they did some great psychology there in their ear saying, they're living out on a yacht and you're here rotten. I feel like they must have been part of it. And it does seem like they did do great work, you know, about $30 million of great work. Yeah, lots of good paperwork. It cost so much money. And then they never got any of it back. But that's the price of justice.

30 million, that's the price. It was, funnily enough, I hadn't heard of this one. I'd never heard of Brinks, I don't think, even though it's possibly come up on a different episode. But it seems like Lomis Fargo is one of these kind of companies as well. Oh, yeah, we did the Lomis Fargo heist. That's right. And Brinks, but I, so I put this topic up for the vote with two other Brinks robberies.

So there's three Brinks robberies? There's even more than that. And this one only just beat out an English one by a vote. I'm going to put it up for the vote again next time because it was so clear. I'm going to do a second chance to all. And that's also Brinks though? Also Brinks. Yeah.

Wow, look forward to that. Always love a heist. Yeah, but there's, I mean, talk about ones you don't know of. There's, I saw one page of just all Brinks heists. I think there was like eight different ones. Whoa. I'm starting to feel sorry for Brinks. Yeah.

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So what this section involves is one of our great supporters. They give us a factor quote or question. or a brag or a suggestion or a joke or a recipe or really anything at all. Anything. And they also get to give themselves a title. The first one up this week is Logan Husky, one of my favorite names of all time. And Logan has got the title of plagiarist of good jokes off QI and passing them off as his own. Of that.

Well, I think he really failed at the first hurdle then of passing it off as his own. Yeah. And Logan's offering a quote writing. The problem with quotes from the internet is that you can never be absolutely sure who said them. That was Abraham Lincoln. That's good stuff. Thank you, Logan. Next one comes from Michael Derizzi, aka Go Chiefs.

Chiefs won the Super Bowl not too long ago. And Michael is offering a fact writing, in honor of my favorite team, Kansas City Chiefs, making and hopefully winning the Super Bowl, I got good news for you, Michael. He's been waiting for this to find out. I have an interesting fact about them. Please declare it fun, Bob.

Well, we'll see. Arrowhead Stadium, where the Chiefs play hold the Guinness World Record for the loudest stadium crowd roar at 142.2 decibels. This happened when they played the New England Patriots in September 2014 and the defense sacked quarterback Tom Brady. For context, a jet engine is 140 decibels and noises of 120 decibels can cause immediate hearing loss. Wow. So all those people got hearing damage from the people around them. Wow.

Wow. A bonus, hopefully fun fact is the next day, the Major League Baseball team, Kansas City Royals, beat the Oakland A's in a thrilling come from behind 12-inning wildcard playoff win, an incredible two days for KC sports fans. Okay, the first bit was fun. First, I can declare the second one, Dahl, for sure. See, that's a rare double. Yeah.

Fun than Dahl. There is he. I love it. It's so good. If you could include a grim fact for me next time, please. The next one comes from Angelo del Judas. And I apologize for forever calling you Angelo del Gouducci, which is so far off. Wow.

Oh, incredible. Finally, Angelo must have cracked and he sent through a phonetic spelling. Look forward to me saying it wrong again next time. But, you know, if you want to keep the phonetic spelling in brackets next to your name until it gets into my thick head, that'd be welcome. Anyway, Angelo wrote. I was about to translate again, but I don't have it in front of me.

So this is what I'm talking about. I need to be reading the phonetic spelling to see it right. So Angelo's title is, so I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Give me four Bs, you'd say. And Angelo's asking a question writing, I do believe this is a quote and a question.

How good is it to be alive? And that's a quote by, as he writes, Matty Stu. Oh, Maty Sue. And answer the question? Very good. Very good, yeah. It's very good. Very good.

Again, indifferent. Oh, okay. We'll win her back. Angela says, cheers. Looking forward to your 2023 North American tour. Hey, Angelou, me too. And Stephen Edmonds, okay, someone beginning to wonder how long I can continue this joke has a question. And the question is, what is a nice biscuit? Answer, a thin rectangular plain biscuit with nice printed on top. A few claim to have invented it, including Arnets, which brings us to another Arnets product, the Mari Biscuit, which I've only ever known as an ingredient for chocolate hedgehog slice.

Agreed. Our mum used to love crushing up some Maori biscuits for a few different recipes. Yeah, cheesecake base. Cheesecake base. I think maybe it was in a lemon slice. ice? Yes. Yeah, yep, yep. Stephen goes on. Don't worry, Dave. This is a no-bake recipe, though it does involve a microwave and a refrigerator. Oh, I don't have a microwave, sorry. Just leave it out in the sun. I have used a few different recipes over the years, but this one comes from our old friend, Cookery, the Australian Way, with some alterations.

All right, pens at the ready. Here we go. This is what you're going to need. Yep. 125 grams butter. Yep. 160 grams cast of sugar. Got it. Two table, spoons cocoa two tablespoons coconut yep one large egg beaten still wet okay half a teaspoon vanilla yep 250 grand packet of marie biscuits yes how do you want them crushed fantastic melt butter and sugar in a microwave in short burst stirring in between or out in the sun dave yeah it's going to take a while on the bonnet of your car add cocoa and mix well then quickly because it will be hot stir in egg coconut and vanilla. Mix in crush biscuits. Press into shallow baking tray and chill. Top with a simple chocolate butter icing. Cut up into fingers. Some people will have included walnuts or glace cherries,

but I'm not a fan, so I'll leave those out. Appreciate that. For enough. P.S. I don't know if it would have been brought up, but I have a vague memory of a TV ad where the punchline was that the husband had returned from shopping with the wrong thing, where nice biscuits is what was written on the shopping list. Oh yeah. I tried to find the ad, but I didn't. That's fun. Yeah, go get some nice biscuits. I mean, you come home with like a Monte Carlo or something. Yeah. Yeah. It's like one time I was asked to get staples from the shop. What is my favorite stories about you. Okay, you went to the shops to get staples. Fantastic. We all know what that means. Yeah. Great. Yeah. And what staples did you bring home? So what was meant was milk. Milk bread, bread. Bread.

And basics. I brought home. A packet of staples. I think, you know, I think people just need to be clearer if they're sending me on an errand. It's so fun. It's one of my favorite stories of you. I love it. Yeah.

But I get it because I don't use the word staples for that kind of stuff. So I get it, but it's still very funny. Yeah. Just get milk and bread and you're like, well, I've got a pack of staples. That should sustain us for the weekend. Yeah, I mean, I mean, Yeah, I guess I'm a literal person. And I guess I didn't have to do the house shopping for a while.

Didn't have to. You learned, you didn't, you lost that privilege. I mean, I think, I think people just started being a bit more specific when they wanted things. With phonetic spellings, milk. Bread. Bread. Just in brackets, milk again. Bread.

I guess bread. Bread. Maybe without the A? Yeah. Breed. Breed. Breed. Anyway, thank you very much for those facts, quotes and questions.

Always love getting a Stephen Edmund's recipe. Have you tried any of them yet? Dave, I'd love you to try that recipe there. Okay, we'll have to buy the microwave. You can borrow mine. Thank you. Microaves are pretty cheap, dude. Just go get a microwave.

This doesn't really fit in my cupboard. in my, we had one, moved to a new place, didn't fit in the new cupboard, just haven't got a new mark, you know, we went, oh, we don't need it anymore. We'll get one later. It's been two and a half years without one. I think I've learned to live without it. Just wait for hard rubbish day. I never use it. It's just so my parents are going to chuck it out. I'm like, I'll take it, but I wish I didn't. It takes up so much space on a bench. Yeah. Bench space, honestly. Is that a premium? Is that a premium? I have not used it once. I don't think. Maybe I've used it once. I like the stove top.

Yeah, I'm a stove guy now. Poverage on the stovetop. Pastor on the stove top. My two meals. All right, well, that brings us to the point of the show where we thank a few of our other great supporters. Jess, you normally have a bit of a game based on the topic at hand. Yeah. Alibis?

Yes, that's good. They're alibi. Okay. Where were they at 7 p.m.? Where were they at 7 p.m.? That's the question. All right. Should I kick us off?

Please. I'd love to thank from McBride. In Canada, it's Patrick Penner. P-P. P-P. Patrick Penner. At 7pm, Patrick was ice skating. Ice skating, yes.

Okay. A lot of witnesses. Heaps, there's lots of people around. Well, and people, Patrick was memorable because Patrick was doing beautiful spins in the air. Yeah, beautiful spins. But unfortunately, was wearing a Halloween mask. So nobody could tell. But they were really impressed.

Frank, is that you? Oh, great work. Patrick, Frank Penner. I'd also love to thank, oh no, address unknown. Can only assume from deep within the fortress of the moles. I'd love to thank Jason John Armitage. Oh, no, three names. Jason John Armitage.

We know, based on, I love Dugawa won quotes on Twitter. Saw one a little while ago, which one of yours, Dave said, people with three names, we know they're either a serial killer or John Cougamelecambe. I don't remember saying that. I couldn't sleep recently. It was reading Dugo One Wisdom. and I don't care that it's quoting us because I don't remember any of it. No.

And it's all out of context. It's very funny. That is funny. John Cougameleman. Where does he come up with these ideas? We also don't know who he runs it. But their pin tweet is very helpful to me because it has like a phonetic spelling of Akrono. Ohio.

That's right. Oh man. My favorite Twitter account. Very self-indulgent. But Jason, John, Armitage. JJ. The alibi is, I was trying to perfect a backflip. on the trampoline in the backyard.

Any witnesses? No, but when the police come around, he says, watch, I'll show you. And he does a backflip perfectly. And they go, well, I guess he had to practice that sometime. Yeah, might have could have been in the previous 30 years of his life. Or it could have been just that one night. Specifically between 7 and 9pm. Hmm, okay.

Well, can't get him on that. Great work, JJ. I'd also love to thank finally for me from Burping Gary. Wow. Incredible. No, I'm neither. What are you doing? I'm Burpin Gary.

Burping Gary is... Baby Gary. He's got gas. Baby Gary's gassy. Sorry, I'm better. I'll be right with you. Oh, that is fantastic. If that's anywhere near...

I'm going to be in Brisbane a couple of months. I'm going to... If it's anywhere near there, I know Queensland's a big place, but I will... Not that far out. Just north of Brisbane in the Morton Bay region. I see a road trip coming on. But anyway, from Burp and Gary, the whole community of Burp and Gary is sitting on the edge of their seat.

I'd love to thank Fiona Fiona from Burp and Gary Fiona at 7pm She was picking up a microwave from hard rubbish Wow Setting it up That's right Testing it seeing if it had that plate on the inside

See if it still spins Need a clean but it works I'm going to my parents for dinner tonight And I don't know what crap of theirs I'm going to leave with tonight I'm like I should just say to them Please op shop it I always leave with this stuff

And then I end up taking to the op shop Yeah. Or it takes up bench space, which is at a premium. At a premium. I think I still have their old VCR players. You don't need that. I don't need it. You don't need that at all.

Get rid of it. The microwave is so old. It's huge. It's a walk-in microwave. Yeah. Yeah, Fiona. That's right. Hard rubbish.

Fiona from Burp and Gary. Oh, my God. Never forget you. You don't like me to thank some beautiful people? Yeah, go for it. I would like to thank. This person is also from location unknown. can only assume that they are just down the road from Jocene John Armitage in the Fortress of the Moles.

And this person is Nami McCracken. What the heck? McCracken. That is a fantastic name. Nami or Namy McCracken? 7pm, they were manning the barbecue. A big family function. Someone's got to flip the chops.

Lots of witnesses. Let me tell you that. Yeah. Now we're in an apron with fake tits on it. Yeah. So it was memorable. You don't forget a thing like that. Everyone said, that's funny.

That's funny stuff. That's funny. Had the whole barbecue laughing. Laughing and laughing. That is classic McCracken. Oh, man. You McCracken me up here, they said. Naomi's done it again.

Naomi went to leave and they were saying, no, Naomi stay. Yes, I'm doing ostentatious as Australianer Volume 2. Wow. I saw us. So I was at a barbecue. Just to thank some more people, Dave. I would like to thank now from Dundee in Scotland, Robbie Proctor. Roby Proctor.

Roby Proctor, home of the Stuart's Dundee decanter Scotch. Fantastic. Beautiful drop. But at 7pm, Robbie was out on a boat. Yes. Trying to find Loch Ness. It just all lapsed. Trying to find that monster.

He's out there somewhere. Nessie. I think it's what a wild way to try to. find it because if you find Nessie in a boat, you're probably not going to live to tell the tale. It's all over for you. Yeah. I don't know if Nessie's, you know, angry or whatever, but at the very least, you know,

we've created some big waves. Yeah. Probably protective, very secretive. Very secretive. Probably, it would probably at least be awkward, you know, probably say something like, sorry, I'm just out for dinner with my family. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not doing photos at the moment. Sorry. Like selfie, Nessie? Thanks for me. Sorry, but yeah, I'm sure you understand. Thank you. I'd also like to thank from Rochester in Minnesota, Rochester. Rochester.

It's Alexander Buckholz. That's right. Rochester. That was on the book sheet about Janeair. Rochester. From Rochester. Rochester. Alexander Buckholz, who at 7 p.m. was trying on a series of novelty hats.

Oh, what did they end up going for? Cowboy hat. Good choice. It's a light-up cowboy hat. Yeah. It's not a lot of novelty there. No, you push a button and it's like a full show on Alexander's head. Fucking sick.

So the cops saw the hat and went, checks out. No worries. As you were. Keep moving. May I think some people as well? The hat also had one of those LED screens and it displayed the date and time on it. Which is very handy. Can't be faked.

Can't be faked. I would love to thank from Brunswick, Victoria. Oh my God. That's where we are right now. Crazy. Francis Batchelah. Great name. Francis Bachelor.

Frankie B. Frankie Batch. Frankie the Batch. Charmed up, sure. What was Francis Bachelor doing at 7 p.m. though? Going for a three-hour walk. Oh, wow, that's a long walk. That's a big walk.

Fittest per new record. Just around Brunswick? Just around Brunswick. Wow. Yeah, they went up to hot potatoes. Yep. See if there's any bargains for sale. Wow.

shops still open. They also went to trying to think of Bronswick landmarks. Multiple coals. Yeah, they went to the multiple coals. Yep. The shit IGA. Yeah, they went to. Lobs cafe.

Bought a few wedding dresses. Yeah. Oh, God. So many wedding dress shops. Went to Alicia. So you really got a lot done, Francis. Yeah. Got a Turkish bread.

Trying on a couple of pairs of de Jure jeans. Yeah, had him tailored. I go pick him up next week. Got that pink slip. Fantastic. Great work. Thank you, Francis. I would also have to thank from Paddington in Queensland.

I didn't know. There was a Paddington in Queensland. Maria Wolfford. Maria Wolford. Maria Wolford. What Maria was up to, and this was really good. She was catching a foul ball at Fenway Park. Wow.

Yeah. That's pretty cool. There's obviously going to be some footage of that. Yeah. Well, unfortunately not. Oh, no. The FBI went through the footage and, yeah, for some reason it didn't happen, but Maria swears it did.

Wow. She has a ball. If you want any more proof, then speak to her lawyer. Yeah. God. He's got it. These FBI, they ask a lot, don't they? She's got a ball.

She's got a ball. We get it. Where else could she have got that from? Yeah. Idiots. I mean, yeah, she flew over to Boston and back on the night. Easy. She just got one of a return flight on the night.

It's not that hard. And finally, for me, I would love to thank from Colorado Springs in Colorado, Ben Randall's. Ben Randalls was performing in an Arnold Schwarzenegger impression competition and... How'd Ben go? Came second. Oh, that's not bad. Pretty good. That's not bad.

Is it because Arnie turned up? Yeah, he turned up, but Arnie actually came third. Wow, that's embarrassing. He was better at being Arnie than Arnie is. Wow. But then another guy was better at being Arnie than Ben is. So Arnie felt really embarrassed. And he said, I'll be back next year.

There's a Damien Cow song called Barry Gib came second in a Barry Gibb lookalike competition. That's very good. Well, that brings us to the Triptage Club. Now, Jess, you're the best at explaining how this works. Yes, so if you support DoGo On at patreon.com slash DoGoOn, for three consecutive years, you are welcomed warmly into the TripDitch Club. It's an exclusive, but not in a weird way. Cool club, but not in a cult way. Where we've got a bar, we've got a kitchen, make you some food.

We've got to borrow. We've got to borrow. We've got that. And everything you could possibly desire. Dave usually books a band. I'm behind the bar with snacks and stuff. Dave, have you booked a band? You never got to believe it.

What? Boston's own, the mighty, mighty boss tones. Oh, a dropping by the borrow. No relation. That's amazing. That is huge. That's the impression that I get is one of this. Knock on wood.

Wait, that's the same song. Yeah, that's the same song. The Rascal King. Worth mentioning twice. That's another one of theirs, I think. Oh, that's great. They only just recently broke up. Oh.

But they're back together for one night only. Wow. We've got so many people to welcome into the club this week as well. So how it works is Matt. It's going to raise up the velvet rope. Read out your name. Everybody's going to be cheering. Dave's going to hype you up.

I'm going to hype Dave up. It's going to be wild. It's going to be a big party today. This is going to be big. Yeah. So excited to be working on these people in. We're going to be drunk for a month. Yes.

So let me kick it off. Here we go. You ready, Dave? Here we go. This list is so long. I'm going to lose my mind. All right. From Altona Meadows here in Victoria, it's Daniel Armand.

something about nuts. Come back, here we go. The night. The first one, here we go. The night has become nutty. It's Daniel Armand. From Wellington in Somersat in Great Britain, it's Aaron Filler. This night is all Aaron, no filler. From Hearst in Texas in the United States, it's Tim Liggett.

This person's not from the worst. They're from Hurst. It's Tim Ligger. The next person from, oh, address unknown, Schum, from deep within the fortress of the Noles. It's Tim Not. I actually really dislike this person. Not.

That's my uncle. That's my uncle. Oh, there you go. Uncle Tim. The joke there is that I do like this person. For people who don't know Perkins is a stage name, Jess's real surname is not. That's not how families work, okay? Everyone has the same name.

From Brunswick East in Victoria, Australia, it's Michael Russell. Let me rustle up in Michael, and here is. From Hayward in California, yeah, it's Chad. Chad. I love Chad. I love you, Chad. Chad from California. This ain't no fad. This is a Chad. From Bonnythorn in the Australian Capital Territory's Jaden Black. We're back in Jaden. Black. From Heathfield in Essex in Great Britain. It's George.

George. George. George. George. Forge. Forge on. George on. George on. Yeah, the party, George is on. From Lemgo in Deutscheland, it's Frederick Heinen. I'm going to lem go, let you go in. Let me go in. Woo!

Triptus Club. From Tomball in Texas in the United States, it's Alan Peach. This night is getting pretty Alan Peachy. From Babinda in Queensland, Australia, it's Anne Penny. In for an Anne, in for a penny. From Melbourne, Australia, it's Shelby Seven. This night ain't sedentry. It's Shelby Seddon.

Hell yeah. From Auckland in New Zealand. It's Jenny Stringleman. Oh my God. Every name is so good today. Stringleman. Woo! If I was a single man, I'd ask you to marry me.

There it is. From Auckland. Sorry, from... From... I'd ask you. That'd be me. Mollinger in Ireland. It's Alan Coyle.

Oh, I was prepared. to shuffle off this mortal coil and then I met Alan and now I'm back in baby. From Tulsa, Oklahoma, it's Jeanette A. Newton. Jeanette A Newton's cradle. You're cradling this night. Newton's cradle, I know that thing that the balls go back before? Sure. From Dublin in Ireland, it's Robin Blakey. I ain't no faky. I'm Robin Blakey.

And finally from Panania in New South Wales, Australia. It's Beck Gardner. There's one person I dig. It's Beck Gardner Fanta, this was your best I reckon Yeah, I agree Thank you so much to you And welcome in

Beck, Robin, Jeanette, Alan, Jenny, Shelby Anne, Alan, Frederick, George, Jaden, Chad, Michael, Tim, Tim, Tim, and Daniel And, Oh my God,

I missed Cassie from Brunswick Cassie! He's lost it now. Yeah, I'm out of the zone. Cassie. Coz sheep, also known as. No sheep. Oh,

You ain't no sheep, you're Cassie. Yeah. And finally, from address unknown, assumingly, from deep within the fortress of the moles, it's Jen Wilson. Jen Wilson. Wilson, you're 10 out of Jen. Thank you so much also to Jen and Cassie once again. And welcome into the club, make yourselves at home.

Now, that brings to the end of the episode. People do you want to get involved. Go to patreon.com slash dogo on pod. What else do we need to tell people, Jess? That they can go to our website, dogo onpod.com. find us at Do Go on Pod across all social media and you can suggest a topic. There's a link in the show notes and it's also on our website. There's also other podcasts in our network. Dave does a great show about classic novels called Book Cheat where he reads the book so you don't have to.

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