Do Go On - 386 - The Great Brink's Robbery

Episode Date: March 15, 2023

On the evening of January 17, 1950, employees of the Brink's Company in Boston, Massachusetts, were surprised by 5-7 masked men. Within minutes, they’d stolen more than $2.7 million in cash, checks and other securities, making it the largest ever robbery in the US at the time and kicking off a massive FBI led manhunt. Tune in to this week's episode to hear the story!This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 07:28 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodLive show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our new merch: https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/Do Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/brinks-robberyhttps://www.newspapers.com/clip/113268139/a-quarter-century-later-brinks/https://www.nytimes.com/1976/03/28/archives/specs-okeefe-informant-in-brinks-robbery-dies-biggest-cash-robbery.htmlhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/how-americas-biggest-heist-the-great-brinks-robbery-fell-apart Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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My name is Dave Warnke and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. It's Matt Stewart, he's my very best friend and Dave's here. Happy to get a mention. I love, love that jingle. Love, love, love. Gotta tell you and I'm not even joking, how good is it to be alive? It is good to be alive. Are you convincing us or yourself?

No. It's great to be alive. I absolutely agree. I could take it or leave it. Yeah, right. Well, could you take or leave explaining how this show works? Absolutely. I'll leave it.

Thank you. I'll take it. I'll take this one. What we do here is we take it in terms of a report on a topic often suggested to us by one of the listeners or a bunch of listeners. We go away, do a bit of research, bring it back to the group by the other to listen to their report. Respectfully. Always respectfully. That's my motto. And this week, it's Jess and I our turn to listen respectfully as Matt reports on a topic and we always start with a question, Matthew. Yeah, and you only ever respectfully interrupt with dog shit riffs.

That's right. Well, when Dave's doing the report, you and I are the sass twins. When you're doing the report, Dave and I are the polite twins. That's right. We put our hands up. And we say, excuse me, Matt, if I could just briefly interject. Yes. With a thought.

But, yeah, we get onto the topic with a question. And my question is this, okay? This is sort of like one of those beat the bomb style questions. It's not beat the bomb, but I'm going to give you a little bit of information and you can jump in at any time. Okay, can we guess more than once? I think you're locked out. I'm going to lock you out.

Right. So, jump in only when you know. Can you just lock me out now? Lock us out. So, we'll each have one guess and then we'll be locked out. Now, once you're both locked out, you're both locked back in. This is too complicated. Okay.

All right, the question is- Yes. I'm locked. What city do the following people- All right, Jess is locked out. No, I'm going to let you- I'm locking you back in. Okay. Am I locked in or out?

You can- You started this. What city? What city? What city do the following people have in common? All old do go on topics. Oh. Benjamin Franklin.

Oh. Julia Child. Mm. Isabella Stewart Gardner. Philadelphia. Jess is locked out. I did the report on that. Good one. I don't remember where it was.

Edgar Allan Poe. Baltimore. All right. You're both locked back in. Okay. Because did the report on that. I don't know where it was. Edgar Allan Poe. Baltimore. All right, you're both locked back in. Okay, because of the Ravens. John F. Kennedy. Larry Bird. Boston Celtics. Yes, Boston.

It's a Boston. It is Boston. It's Boston Celtics. That's Larry Bird Celtics. Boston Celtics. John F. Kennedy. I thought that would be the- Oh, yeah. Haven.

So, they're all listed on- Car keys. Yeah. Boston Magazine's list of the 100 best Bostonians of all time. Wow. Really? Some of them are definitely not Bostonians, but they lived there for a bit. At least Alexander Graham Bell, a famous Scottish man.

But they've claimed him. They do what we do. Yeah, we do that. Spent some time here. He's one of ours. Sam Neill, Australian, I think you'll find. Spent 14 hours here on a Contiki tour. One of ours.

File up, one of ours. Pavlova, one of ours. Thank you very much. Kiwi Bird, one of ours. Can I say, was that in order of importance for them? No, I put them in order of what I thought was increasingly more obvious. That's why I had to think of- Larry Bird was mentioned in the Jordan episode, but I thought- I didn't go past Kennedy, I thought.

Right, okay. So, you just- Why are you sticking the boot in? I thought it would be obvious to you fucking idiots, but apparently I work with morons it's like dumb little babies like stick the boot in harder why don't you i mean i hate that it's like when you're doing like a you're playing trivia pursuit or something and someone's they're about to ask you a question oh here's an easy one what's the square root like fuck you fuck you you'd be an idiot not to get this yeah oh good good nice easy one for you here. Real slam dunk coming up.

Just make it. There's no winning all of a sudden. Oh, you got it right. Of course you would. It's easy. Of course you did. Yeah. You didn't get it right?

Yeah. Jeez. Yeah, that sucks. So, anyway, Bob, I think this is an episode where your accent can really come to the fore. Khakis. Mm-hmm. There's a guy, he's very big on TikTok. People will know who I'm talking about and they might love him, but his entire thing

is just mocking his girlfriend's Boston accent. That's all he does is like, is shits all over her. Lovingly. For talking differently. And I'm like, uh-huh. Accents. Yep. You say stuff different to me, asshole.

What's his accent? Let's mark it right now. Just like a basic American. Basic. What is basic American? Is that just from the centre? I guess. The exact centre.

And instead of like Cooper, she says Cooper, and he's like, uh. Cooper. Cooper. Do I do both? Yeah. Because the Boston one's a little bit Australian. Yeah. So, they say car.

Car. And we say car. Car. And we say car. That's right. Isn't that wild? Whereas right in the center of the US, they say carl. I knew that. I knew it. So we just say a silent L.

Yeah. But they emphasize it. We do a silent RL. Where's the L in that? And they pronounce the R in the L. Right, Will they emphasize it? We do a silent R and L. Where's the L in that? And they pronounce the R and the L. Right, but they say. Anyway, I know you've both had your hands up for those dog shit riffs, but we're going to get on with the topic at hand.

These big heavy boots he's got on today. He just keeps fucking sticking them in. And we're going to be talking about the great Brinks robbery. Brinks. Brinks. So Brinks is like their chub security or something, I think. Oh, they've got a chub. We've all got chubs.

Well, they've got a Brink. They've got a chub, okay. They're on the Brink. We've got a chub. Oh, boy. This was suggested by just the one listener, Michael Blankenborg. What? From Victoria, BC in Canada.

How dare you have such a fantastic name, Michael? It's so good. One more time. Michael Blankenborg. Blankenborg. It is so good. Because here's the thing. Michael Blanken would have been incredible.

Michael Borg. Michael Borg, incredible. Blankenborg? How fucking dare you, Michael? That is amazing. Save some for the rest of us. Oh, I love that. That is amazing Save some for the rest of us

Oh, I love that So, yeah, there's this fantastic breakdown of the story on the FBI website So, you know, maybe they're tooting their own horn somewhere I just want to say I've translated Blankenborg on Google Translate And it says detect language into English Blankenborg translates into English as Blankenborg Okay Okay, well that makes you think, doesn't it? So, I guessborg translates into English as Blankenborg. Okay. Okay.

Well, that makes you think, doesn't it? So, I guess it's an English word. I guess we're not that different. Yeah. I love it. So, FBI. FBI, yes. This is a big FBI investigation.

So, they're writing- One of their most famous ones. They must be proud of their efforts. They're proud as punch. Okay. But do they solve the case? We had some pretty good leads. Yeah, in the end, it went unsolved.

And my suit looked pretty good that day. God, that looks so good. No sunnies. They were new and I was trying something different and I could pull it off. So, according to the FBI, on the evening of January the 17th, 1950, employees of the security firm Brinks Incorporated in Boston, Massachusetts, were closing for the day, returning sacks of undelivered cash, checks, and other material to the company safe on the second floor. Shortly before 7.30 p.m., they were surprised by five men, heavily disguised, quiet as mice, wearing gloves to avoid leaving fingerprints and soft shoes to muffle noise. Right. They really were moving like mice, like scurrying along. Eating little

bits of cheese. All of them wore navy type pea coats, gloves, and chauffeur's caps, which were apparently quite fashionable at the time. Right. So, that was just for fashion, not for... And it was, well, it was also quite similar to the Brinks staff uniform, so they sort of blended in a bit. What didn't blend in, though, was that each robber's face was completely concealed behind a Halloween-type mask. Right.

Okay. So everyone's like, oh, hey, it must be Joe. Hang on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, Joe, what happened to your face? It's melting. Oh, it must be Joe. Hang on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Joe, what happened to your face? It's melting. Oh, my God, Joe. Someone call an ambulance for Joe. Joe, I can't hear you under that face.

You sound muffled. Joe. Joe, Joe, please. Everybody, I'm worried about Joe. Oh, no, look, Frank's face is fine as well. What's going on? Oh, no, is my face okay? Guys, just well. What's going on? Is my face okay? Guys, just wait right there.

I'm going to check the mirror. Do I always look like this? That's one of the other robbers. They're like, oh, my God, I look like that too. So, the robbers did little talking because of the muffled voices, I guess. They moved with a studied precision, which suggested that the crime had been carefully planned and rehearsed. Or they were dancers. Yes.

This was choreographed tightly. They didn't speak a lot, but what they did say was five, six, seven, eight. Their movement did all the talking for them. Oh, yeah. Remember, it's step, step, pivot, pirouette. Come on. Somehow the criminals opened at least three and possibly four locked doors to gain entrance to the second floor of Brinks,

where the five employees were engaged in their nightly chore of checking and storing the money collected from Brinks customers that day. All five employees had been forced at gunpoint to lie face down on the floor. Their hands were tied behind their backs and adhesive tape was placed over their mouths. Within minutes, they'd stolen more than $1.2 million in cash and another $1.5 million in checks and other securities, making it the largest robbery in the US at the time. So, this is 1950. Whoa. So, that's big dollars. Big dollars. Probably about $30 million in today's money, but-

Wow. Yeah. So, it's a huge haul. I wouldn't say no to 30 million. You wouldn't say no? Nah. What would you say no to? Because I've got $5 in my wallet right now.

I'll have that. We found her price. No, no, no. No, she wouldn't say no to $5. Would you say no to $2? I wouldn't say no to five Would you say no to two? I wouldn't say no to any of it, really Five cents Oh, yeah

It's a burden Actually, yeah, coins I'd be like, nah And even actually a note Can you just transfer me five dollars? Okay I don't really carry cash Transferring now Thank you so much

Matt, could you also transfer me five dollars? Okay Thank you I reckon I'd accept down to 50 cent pieces Would you? And what are you going to do? Okay, actually, you know I reckon I'd accept down to 50 cent pieces. Would you? And what are you going to do? Okay, actually, you know what? I would accept $1 coins because at least I can use that in the washing machine.

But other than that. Gold coins are, you know, they're like gold to me. So, half of it, nearly almost half of it's in cash. Yep. $1.2 million. Imagine, I imagine that's a lot of money to transport, right? That's quite a bit of. Yeah, it was hefty. Yeah, that's a heft. Yep. 1.2 million. Imagine, I imagine that's a lot of money to transport, right? That's quite a bit of- Yeah, it was hefty.

Yeah, that's a hefty package, yeah. Yeah. I can't remember if it was like tons or a ton or half a ton. It was heavy. Yeah, even half is a lot. Yeah, it was some portion of a ton. I can't think that up. Could have been a tenth of a ton.

Wow, a tenth ton. No, I think it was hefty. Yeah, it's a lot to imagine. I got to tell you, I regret not writing down the weight. I've only ever seen half that money in one place at once, so I can't even imagine twice that. What, with five million cash? Where did you see half that amount at one time?

Under my mattress. Okay. I sleep 15 feet in the air. How did you get up there? A very big ladder and a trampoline. So, you had the pile of cash, then I guess you put the bed on top of it? Yeah, that's right. Otherwise, how will it be hidden from people?

And the bed is just precariously- Yeah, toppling. The legs not touching the floor, is that what you're saying? Yeah. Holy moly. Is that quite soothing to sleep, like a waterbed kind of feel? Yeah, because I've got the satisfaction that I've got three quarters of a million dollars. That must be a satisfying sleep. Three quarters of a million dollars. That must be a satisfying sleep.

Three quarters of a million dollars. Pretty good. Pretty good. Wouldn't say no to that. I wouldn't say no to that. If there were no strings attached, I'd say yeah. Yes, thank you very much. According to the FBI, as the robbers sped from the scene, a Brinks employee telephoned the Boston Police Department.

Minutes later, police arrived at the Brinks building and special agents of the FBI quickly joined in the investigation. But there was no sign of them. They barely left a trace. At the outset, very few facts were available to the investigators. In addition to the general descriptions received by the Brinks employees, like melty faces. Yeah, you looked a bit like frank but we're really worried about him he was acting all strange frank would normally rob from us he'd normally you know come in and

count the money not take the money i don't know what's gotten into Frank. Frank's like, I'm right here. I was robbed as well. Okay. Frank's losing it. Honestly, he's suspect number one. So, yeah, they got these general descriptions. They also got several pieces of physical evidence, like rope that was used to tie them up, the adhesive tape that bound and gagged the employees and one of the chauffeur's caps that one of the robbers left at the crime scene but the thing is they'd clearly spent the time it was a brand new cap and they'd spent the time to unpick the label from it so it and they were

very common hats at the time so there was really no way to trace it back to a store or anything dealing with pros for sure yeah so even even the idea that they might have left it behind they were prepared for that which is interesting the fbi further learned that four revolvers had been taken by the gang so there was security there and they'd taken those guns off them but they had uh descriptions and the serial numbers of these weapons because they were, you know, company guns. Yep. So the FBI noted these down thinking, you know, if they turn up,

they'll be able to have a connection back to the robbers. In the hours immediately following the robbery, the underworld began to feel the heat of the investigation. Well-known Boston hoodlums were picked up and questioned by police, like all of them, basically. They just weren't- They were bringing everyone in. From Boston, then, the pressure quickly spread to other cities.

Veteran criminals throughout the United States found their activities the subject of official inquiry. A systematic check of current and past Brinks employees was undertaken. Seeing as they'd got in through multiple locked doors, they're like- They were thinking inside job. Yeah. Frank. Inside Frank.

Son of a bitch. Honestly. Honestly. I was tied up with you. I'm sick of the lies, Frank. You were the best man at my wedding. Now I feel like I don't even know you. So, yeah.

So, a bunch of employers were taken in, especially any that had records, criminal records, not vinyl. Hit records. Oh, okay. Very interesting. You got the Beatles LP, all right. Yeah, and because they clearly knew the layout of the building as well, they're like, you know, it's all pointed towards an inside job. It reeks.

Yeah, it stinks to high heavens. The robbery was front page news the following day, and the case quickly caught the imagination of America. But the robbers weren't necessarily public enemy number one either. It wasn't like the robbers knocked off the local church or the local orphanage, said Stephanie Skoro, who wrote a book about it called crime of the century i reckon this is maybe the third or fourth crime of the century we've covered absolutely love a crime of the century similar to like the hundred year flood 100 year storm you know and that seemed to happen

all the time scorro goes on they picked a big company that could afford in the minds of many to lose this money so people took a perverse pride in it. Got into the Daily Beast. The FBI tried to trace the money, keeping an eye on racetracks, casinos, and resorts where men of previously modest means might be suddenly seen spending a fortune. And they brought in, they were, you know, if you were all of a sudden spending money, they were bringing you in and checking your alibi, figuring out where you got the cash. So, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa. It says here that you ordered two hash browns this morning

usually you only have one what's going on hey suddenly come into a lot of cash have we oh you're buying one for your son no wow and where did he get the money where did he come from did you buy a son? What do you mean you're white? What are you talking about? God, I don't know where kids come from. All of a sudden there's a whiteboard. Yeah. Okay, all right.

That seems disgusting. Oh, my God. And people do this? Over the course of their investigation, they spent $29 million. Over the course of their investigation, they spent $29 million. The FBI spent $29 million trying to solve the $2.7 million robbery. Because they arrested half of America. Yeah, that's right.

So many hours spent, so many officers and agents on the case. Wow. But according to the Washington Post, they were getting nowhere. They just, it's sort of, it was seen as almost the perfect crime. Right. And I suppose the more money you spend, the longer you spend on it, the more people are getting away with it, the more embarrassing it is for the FBI, right? So, you're like, we just got to keep spending.

Yeah. Well, another thing, which I'll mention a bit later, there's another reason why there's a bit of urgency, and that's because there's a six-year statute of limitations. Only six? Only six years. That does seem short, doesn't it? So, then if they're aware that the FBI is going to be looking at people who are suddenly spending a lot of money, you just continue living a normal life, making really small upgrades if you want to, and then after six years, buy a mansion. That's really interesting you say that because a lot of sources

actually say that was the pact that some of them made. Wow. But apparently that's not actually true. There's been a few movies made about it, fictionalised versions, and in one of those they made that deal. So, people have started to think that was real, including like, you know, I think history.com or one of these sort of websites even say it. But this author, Stephanie Skoro, she's like, yeah, that didn't actually happen. Yeah, wow.

But that would have been smart. Would have been smart. Six years is so short. Yeah. Wow. It's low. Play it cool for six years and then they cannot arrest you. Certainly don't commit lots of crimes.

Yeah. That's what I would do. Yeah, I'd be like one and done. Yeah. This is my last big job. Yeah. That's what I'd say. I'm going to get the gang back together just for one last-

One last job. Yeah. They started receiving theories, the FBI this is, and tips from across the country. They also brought in many locals with criminal records and checked their alibis. The tips included a fair few wild guesses. Someone from the other side of the country, from California,

contacted the FBI and said that the money might be hidden in the ocean. Why is that funny, Dave? The FBI. The ocean's very vast. That's right. They spent $50 million looking for that. Yeah. We're on it.

We've dragged the ocean and it wasn't there. We dragged it into the Atlantic and pumped it into the Pacific. And then vice versa. All right, fine. Other coast, let's do it. Let's do it. a more promising piece of information was picked up when interviewing witnesses who were in the vicinity of the brinks officers on the night of the robbery they heard that a 1949 green ford truck had been parked

next to the brinks building around the time of the crime it's the kind of truck that could probably carry a ton or so of, you know, cash or other things. And it was painted green. It was painted green. A ton of feathers. A ton of feathers. Pretty compact. Man, I remember that blowing my mind when I was in high school.

That was like a trick question on a test. Yeah. Oh, what weighs more, a ton of feathers or a ton of bowling balls? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I wonder. Yeah. I think it's bowling balls. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I wonder. I think it's bowling balls. Yeah, okay. Wait, what?

I've made a fool of myself in front of everybody? Well, I'll certainly not worry about this for the rest of my life. Ah, the quiet moments in bed. I needed something to think about. I needed something to reflect on at 3am. I needed something to think about. I needed something to reflect on at 3am. So this seemed like a likely key bit of evidence or intel.

And yeah, they saw it that way and they pursued it, but the truck was not able to be located. There was also talk coming from the criminal world as to who might be responsible. According to the FBI, rumours pointed suspicion at several criminal gangs, including members of the Purple Gang of the 1930s who found renewed interest in their activities. I love the name of this gang. The Purple Gang.

Was they headed by Grimace or...? Yeah. Grimace was their... Barney. Barney. The two mob bosses. I wouldn't fuck with Barney. No, don't.

No way. Don't even think about it. Maybe Grimace. You'd fuck with Grimace? I could take Grimace. Wow. I couldn't take Barney. I feel like Grimace could take your punches, though.

Yeah, you're right. He'd just absorb them. Yeah, he'd just smile at you. You'd be like, I'm throwing everything I've got at this guy. He's just smiling. Yeah, ironically not grimacing at all. What if I punched him off a cliff? How about that?

I reckon he would have a soft landing just in himself. Yeah, but he's not bothering me anymore. That's true. He's down there. Then you go down to the bottom of the cliff and go, ha, in your face. Oh, no. Now I've got to punch him up a cliff. Great.

I'm not going to make my dinner reservation. At the family restaurant, McDonald's. Hopefully he's not there. I assume he won't be. Oh, God. God. God. Grim.

This guy's everywhere. He's trying to have a meal. Just trying to have a hash brown with my son. So, I looked down. I'm like, oh, the Purple Gang. They're obviously like a- They must have been a Boston gang from the time. I looked into them.

Apparently, they're also known as the sugar house gang who dominated detroit's underworld in the 20s and 30s but imploded with infighting so a gang from a different state who didn't even really exist anymore they were even being looked into oh right yeah this is two decades after the 1950s yeah it must have been those purple guys there's rumour going around the underworld from these local Bostonians who were there on the night. They saw it. Yeah, all the people who have committed the crime are like,

oh, no, it wasn't us. I heard it was the purple gang. Yeah. Have you looked into grimaces? I don't trust him. The FBI continues, another old gang that had specialised in hijacking bootlegged whiskey in the Boston area during Prohibition became the subject of inquiries.

Again, the FBI's investigation resulted merely in the elimination of more possible suspects. I think that was a lot of what they were doing was looking into people and ruling people out. Ruling them out. So, when you say eliminating, they're not just killing everyone, just in case. Well, that's how you rule out. How do you rule things out? Well, even if you didn't do it, you'll, just in case. Well, that's how you rule out. How do you rule things out? Well, even if you didn't do it, you'll never do it again.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, the boss just keeps saying, yeah, rule out another possible suspect. I'm winking, if you know what I mean. Oh, kill Grimace. Okay. Of the hundreds of New England hoodlums contacted by FBI agents in the weeks immediately following the robbery, few were willing to be interviewed, interestingly. Huh.

Hoodlums are normally very loose-lipped. Yeah. Yeah. Normally they're like, hey, what do you need? Yeah. I'm here for you. Do you want me to grab you a cup of tea and then let's get into it? Yeah.

I saw it all. I'll tell you everything. You grab a pad, grab a pen. Yeah. Let's chat. Yeah. Are you comfy on that chair? Do you want to swap?

You all right? Okay. A light detector test invented yet? I'll do one. I'll do one. I baked cookies also. Would you like some? They're very good.

What kind of cookies? Peanut butter. Oh, my God. Chocolate chip. Oh, yes. There's a lot going on. I'm back in. All right.

You were off? All right. You've sold me. I'll take your information. Yeah. Occasionally, an offender who was facing a prison term would boast that they had hot information. I got hot gas. Yeah.

Basically, like, you get me out of jail. Yeah. I'll give you the robbers. And obviously, that never came to anything. One Massachusetts racketeer, a man whose moral code mirrored his long years in the underworld, confided to the agents who were interviewing him, quote, If I knew who pulled the job, I wouldn't be talking to you now because I'd be too busy trying to figure out a way to lay my hands on some of the loot.

The massive information gathered during the early weeks of the investigation was continuously sifted. All efforts to identify the gang members Through the chauffeur's hat The rope and the adhesive tape Which had been left at the brinks proved unsuccessful It's not a lot to go on This rope you know

This is before DNA testing and stuff And CCTV and all those things That now would be Make it very a lot easier to figure out And DNA testing is like more recent than we think isn't it yeah i've talked about it at some point but yeah it was i remember being surprised by 1986 wow according to the ncbi government website and i trust the ncbi with jess's life yeah so that yeah that is way more recent than I would have thought.

A breakthrough in the investigation occurred in the early months of 1950, though, according to Robert E. Thomason, writing for the New York Times, several months after the robbery, two small boys from Somerville, Massachusetts, five miles north of the Brinks building, found two guns on a beach at Mystic River. And you'll remember that they noted down the serial numbers and all that sort of stuff of the guns that were taken. Well, according to the FBI, shortly after these two guns were found,

one of them was placed in a trash barrel and was taken to a city dump, never to be seen again. The other gun, though, was picked up by a police officer and identified as having been taken during the Brinks robbery. The serial number matched. Wow. A detailed search for additional weapons was made at the Mystic River, but they didn't find anything.

But, you know, this was a little breakthrough. Didn't give them directly anyone, but it gave them an area to search for. You know, they're like, oh, this area, maybe the people on our suspects list who are from around here will focus on them a little bit more. And you know what the beach is right next to? The ocean. I've got a feeling that that loot is hidden somewhere out there.

Yeah. Get the pump. The wet bandits. It's got their- Yeah. Their wet sopping hands all over it. Their M-O, M for moist. They're moist operator.

Another breakthrough occurred on the 4th of March 1950. Do you remember the green Ford truck? Well, it was finally located. On the beach. It was chopped up into tiny pieces at a rubbish tip in Stoughton, Massachusetts. Someone chopped up a truck? Chopped up a truck pieces at a rubbish tip in Stoughton, Massachusetts. Someone chopped up a truck? Chopped up a truck into small pieces, yeah. So, they used some sort of a, like a, you know, like a laser.

Sword. A laser sword. Wow. A lightsaber. Yeah, a lightsaber. So, yeah, someone chopped it up and then another person came along and obviously went, this looks like a truck puzzle. Yeah. I'm going to like a truck puzzle. Yeah.

I'm going to put it back together. Yeah. Apparently, according to the FBI, as well as being cut up into small pieces, it also appeared that a sledgehammer had been used to smash many of the heavy parts, such as the motor. So, the truck pieces were concealed in fiber bags and had the ground not been frozen they they assumed that they probably would have buried it but it just wasn't possible to bury it i couldn't dig yeah couldn't dig into the ground it was frozen solid you know what makes it freeze water and where's the most water in the world why doesn't the ocean freeze i think it does up in the Arctic. Whoa. Whoa. Wow.

Wow. Sometimes just, you know, the beach in Victoria feels a bit chilly, doesn't it? Yeah, right on the edge of freezing. Yeah. The truck found at the dump, or the tip, had been reported stolen by a Ford dealer near Fenway Park in Baston on November the 3rd, 1949. Is that about right? Perfect.

So, it was a stolen truck. It was a stolen truck. It was brand new, stolen from a Ford dealer. Oh, from a dealer. I don't care. We found your truck. Awesome. Where is it?

I'll come pick it up. It's chopped up into tiny pieces. Uh-huh. Okay. And where are the pieces? Yeah, for a second there, I was like, oh, no, because I imagined somebody had just bought their dream car but it's from a dealer i don't care whatever they were the dealer got a call to

come and collect their cube that's about my cube all efforts to identify the persons responsible for the theft and the persons who had cut up the truck were unsuccessful the fiber bags used to conceal the pieces were identified so they were looking into everything because they were fibre bags. They were able to figure out that they had been used as containers for beef bones shipped from South America to a gelatin manufacturing company in Massachusetts. Thorough inquiries were made concerning the disposition of the bags after their receipt. This phase of the investigation was pursued exhaustively, but it ultimately proved unproductive. So, it seemed like they would have been like,

all right, we're getting somewhere. Oh, okay. Are they involved in the meat trade somewhere? Yeah, they work at that factory. Are they cows? Can't rule anything out at this point. That's right. We're draining the ocean and we're interviewing cows.

Well, interrogating. Sea cow. Sea cows. I think this is starting to add up. Sea cows, I think? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking it is.

And I know who it was. Sea cows. Sea cows. Despite this, the location of the tip was near where two of the FBI's suspects lived. Joseph Spex O'Keefe and Stanley Gus Gasoria. Okay, so- Gasora. So, the first one, he wears glasses.

Mm-hmm. Second one, oh, his last name has Gus in it. Yeah. Otherwise, it's hard to say, and so nobody would try. They'll just call him Gus. They do nicknames over there like we do them here. Ah. That guy wears glasses all the time.

Specs. Oh, you mean specs. Love that. That is exactly right. According to Thomason, he got his nickname from his almost habitual wearing of horn rim glasses. Yeah. He almost always wears them. Almost always.

You know, like anyone who wears glasses. Yeah, almost always wearing them. The thing is, I couldn't see very well without them. And I like to see things. So, I wore them a lot. And they called me Specs. A lot of backstory here, Specs. Beautiful.

Thank you for this rich tapestry. So, Keith and Gasora. Specs and Gus. Specs and Gus. They had a history of committing crimes together and separately. And the FBI honed further in on them. They're like, these two make some sense. They got a history of committing crimes together and separately. And the FBI honed further in on them. They're like, these two make some sense. They got a hobby and they found somebody with a shared passion.

Yes. And they're just partaking in a hobby together. They happen to live near a tip that had a chopped up car. I think that's really nice, actually. That's right. But they also are mature enough to work separately as well. Yeah. I think that's so healthy.

Yeah. You know, you have to have your own well. Yeah, I think that's so healthy. Yeah. You know, you have to have your own lives. They're like Hamish and Andy. Yes, they do their own things. They come together. That's beautiful. It is beautiful. Oh, man, these FBI are like, oh, you boys.

What do you mean? In this day and age? Come on. It's disappointing. It is. I mean, it wasn't in this day and age of course it was in 1950 but still i see today and 1950 is the same yeah according to the fbi local officers searched their homes this is gus and specs but no evidence linking them with the truck or the robbery was

found in april of 1950 so they'd be pretty comfortable at this stage, still over five and a half years for this statute of limitations to wind up. They've got heaps of time. Heaps of time. And heaps of cash to spend. In fact, take some annual leave. Yeah.

Go on holiday. Yeah, we'll figure this out. We'll get there. Let's let our subconsciouses work on this for a bit. Yeah. Sometimes you need to walk away from it being a new setting, you know, be thinking about something different. So, you have breakthroughs in the shower.

Yes. I think you go on holiday, sit on a beach for a day, you're going to crack this case. And have a mimosa. So, in April, the FBI received information indicating that part of the Brinks loot was hidden in the home of a relative of O'Keefe in Boston. A federal search warrant was obtained and the home was searched by agents on April 27,

1950. Several hundred dollars were found hidden in the house, but could not be identified as part of the loot. And how do you explain this? Yeah, keep a little bit of cash around the house, just in case. Yeah, I can't remember if I said it, but one of the first things how do you explain this yeah keep a little bit of cash around the house just in case yeah yeah i can't remember i said it but they one of the first things the fbi did was contact all people who had money and stuff stored figuring out if there were any identifying marks on any of the the notes or anything like that it was all fully exhaustive and then and then the new notes they

knew the numbers on those and stuff so they had a way to track a lot of the notes that were taken. Yeah. Another reason why you'd be smart as the robbers not to spend the money because you just increase your chance of being found out. Were they hoping that people would remember what marks were on their money? That's what it seems like, yeah. Isn't that wild? Yeah, I wrote my name in the bottom right-hand corner of every single note

so I know it's mine. Both men,us and specs had been on the fbi's suspect list since the robbery occurred so that was some of the locals were like but i mean that's true of you know the whole boston crime scene so that's not surprising uh they were both brought in for questioning at the time and according to the fbi neither had too convincing of an alibi o'keefe claimed that he left his hotel room in for questioning at the time, and according to the FBI, neither had too convincing of an alibi. O'Keefe claimed that he left his hotel room in Boston at approximately 7 p.m. on January 17th, 1950. Following the robbery, authorities attempted unsuccessfully to locate him at his hotel.

His explanation? He'd been drinking at a bar in Boston. Pretty good excuse. Some bar. Which bar? You know, one of the bars. The bar. The bar. I was at the bar. I was. Some bar. Which bar? You know, one of the bars. The bar. The bar.

How's that the bar? How's that the bar? The bar-all for the other Americans listening. Kisora also claimed to have been drinking that evening. A lot of the key suspects in the end, their alibis were similar. They left at about 7 o'clock and they went out drinking at a bar. Like, gosh, I wish we could fact check this some way. I guess they were all drinking at a bar. Another early suspect was a man named Anthony Fats Pino. How did he get his nickname? Did he have a Fats Pino? I guess so.

How did he get his nickname? Did he have a fat spino? I guess so. It's really big. Well, it's girthy. Yes, it's girthy. It's really wide. It's got an earthy smell and a girthy feel. He had been the prime suspect in multiple major robberies

and it was said that the Brinks job bore a resemblance to his work. Apparently he was great at casing jobs. He was known for studying a job and just meticulously planning. He was a Virgo. But not a virgin. No. Not Fats Pino. The different things, though.

Fats Pino. It's so funny when I come in here with a story, and it's never the things I think that you're going to grip onto. I mean, you thought we'd get the answer, and we didn't, because we're idiots. But, yeah, we're going to pick up on Fats Pino. I don't know where JFK was from, but you did know. Well, Larry Bird played for a decade or so.

Yeah. I mean, and I was being a bit rough on you, because all those other ones were really red herrings, right? Because Julia Todd was born elsewhere and she just lived there for a bit. So, you know, putting them all together. I was rough and I apologise. You're forgiven. Thank you so much. But not forgotten.

Never forget me. Never forget you. Right. So, but that sounds like the kind of job that he is involved with. Yes. Because it sounded like they knew everything. They're in, they're out. They knew how to get through four locked doors.

We ever know how they got through those? Yeah, no. They're still thinking, is it an inside job or, you know. Because, I mean, they're honing in on a few of these key suspects, but they're also honing in on a lot of others as well. The Purple Gang, they haven't ruled them out most of them are dead now but i wouldn't put a past them apparently yeah when they implode that that gang imploded they infighting led to them killing a lot of each other uh that purple

gang but that's a whole nother thing wow they took each other out yeah but still on the suspect list can't rule anyone out at this point uh so according to to the FBI, Fats Pino had been questioned as to his whereabouts on the evening of January 17th. And he provided a good alibi, probably one of the better ones. Almost too good, the FBI thought. Okay. Pino had been- I wasn't born yet. Damn it, he's good.

Jeez. I'm a baby. I'm a widdle baby. Gosh. Here's my birth certificate. I don't know where to fact check it. It looks legit. Yeah, because remember, like, IDs in the olden days were just, like, handwritten with a photo sticky taped on.

I am Fats Pino. I am two years old. Yeah. Okay. I'm a baby. Goo goo gaga. So, his alibi was that he was at his home in Boston until approximately 7pm. And this comes up a lot.

Almost like they're all, all these people went, yeah, if anyone asks, he left home at 7pm. Right. Then he walked to a nearby liquor store owned by Joseph McGuinness. Subsequently, and McGuinness as well was an underworld figure. Subsequently, he engaged in a conversation with McGuinness and a Boston police officer. The officer verified the meeting. So the alibi was strong, but the FBI were still like,

you know, it's not conclusive because a trip from the liquor store to the Brinks offices could be made in about 15 minutes. And Pino could have been at McGuinness' liquor store to the Brinks offices could be made in about 15 minutes. And Pino could have been at McGuinness' liquor store shortly after 7.30 and still have made it to the robbery. So, they're like, I mean, if this was planned, you know, go meet this cop. Just say, yeah, hey, just hanging out. Certainly not up to anything weird. We'll be heading home with my bottle of whiskey or whatever. Yeah. And then race stop. So, they're like, it's not out of the question.

It would have been hard to do, but it's possible. And like I say, McGuinness, the liquor store owner, was another, he was quite a big figure in the Boston crime world. And according to the FBI, underworld sources described him as fully capable of planning and executing the Brinks robbery. He too had left his home shortly before 7 p.m. on the night of the robbery and met the Boston police officer soon after at his liquor store. On June the 12th, 1950, Gus and Spex were arrested in Pennsylvania on unrelated crimes.

This is another little breakthrough in the case because when they're in custody, they can, you know, keep their eyes eyes on them they can interview them for longer lean on them a bit exactly uh so they were found in possession of the loot from burglaries they committed in pennsylvania so i mean if they were involved in the boston robbery they certainly certainly weren't lying low right they're just know, just committing more burglaries. Spex was sentenced to three years jail and Gus was found guilty on a different burglary charge. He was found not guilty on that one, but they're like,

but we got you on this other one, and was sentenced to five years plus in jail. Right. Both Gus and Spex fought their convictions in the years following being found guilty. According to the FBI, between 1950 and 1954, the underworld occasionally rumbled with rumors that pressure was being exerted upon Boston hoodlums to contribute money for these criminals' legal fights against the charges in Pennsylvania. So, they're in jail and they're going, they're employing lawyers and stuff.

And then the rumors are that they're contacting Boston criminals going, hey, you should be funding this. You should be getting us out of this strife over here. The names of Pino, Fats Pino, McGinnis, as well as a guy called Adolph Jazz Maffie and Henry Baker were frequently mentioned in these rumours. And it was said that they had been with Spex O'Keefe on the big job. So, the FBI are thinking from the rumours they're hearing in the underworld

that all these names are involved. Right, and they're in jail now being like, you better help us out. Yeah. We don't want to squeal. Yeah. There's so many great nicknames. I think Adolph Jazz Maffy's right up there.

Incredible. You don't hear of many Adolphs anymore. No. I'm lucky. This is 1950. You know, he would have been born in the 20s or something. Back when Adolph was still cool. Yep.

He was stoked. As a name. Yeah. Well, he was stoked when he got the nickname Jazz. Yeah, he's like, yep, that's it. Jazz it is. Whatever. Don't worry about it. Yeah, he's like, yep, that's it, Jazz it is. Whatever. Don't worry about it.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, 1950, Adolph was really on the out. Yeah. He'd already been questioned about his whereabouts, Jazz Maffie, on the night of the robbery, but wasn't able to give any coherent alibi. Henry Baker's alibi was also far from watertight. It was one of my favourite ones of all the alibis that come up uh after the robbery he told police that he went for a two-hour walk by

himself around the neighborhood in the hours of seven to nine p.m when the robbery took place not a two-hour walk not the greatest alibi unless he's knocking on the doors of like cops or something he said no i didn't see anyone no No one else was out. Between seven and nine. Yeah. No one. Okay. Such a strange and long time to just go for a walk around the streets. Unlucky for him.

Yeah. Because it makes him look like he might have been involved. Yeah. Yeah. But really he was just getting his steps in. Yeah. Getting his steps in. And he's ahead of the time with that, you know.

He was letting his subbie do a bit of work on a- That's right. He was working on some material for the upcoming comedy festival. That's right. Yeah. How else is he going to try it? Yeah. In front of a mirror?

Come on. Come on. Don't be ridiculous. Come on. He feels foolish doing that. Yeah. But when you're wondering- Everyone has a different process.

And Baker's is walking around the neighborhood for two hours exactly. Years passed and Specs O'Keefe and Gus continued to stay silent, despite the FBI coming to interview them in prison fairly regularly. They keep coming back to them thinking that, you know, they're separated from who they think the rest of the gang is. Maybe they're the ones that will turn. Why would they turn, though, unless you're offering them a deal or something? Yes.

The FBI continued trying, though, as they hoped that a rift might open. They kept trying and they kept failing. Oh, dear. But they're thinking, you know, you're inside. Hey, there's other guys. They're out there living it up. They're living it up. They're talking about how you're a couple of losers.

They're saying, ugh, those glasses he always wears what is he not see good or something he looks terrible man how about this adolf guy that's his real name don't don't believe him when he says it's jazz yeah that's all ice jazz math so they were pretty confident the fbi were pretty confident that specs gus jazz mcginnis bakerats Pino, and others including James Faraday, Joseph Banfield, Thomas Sandy Richardson, Vincent Vinny Costa, and Michael Geegan were the culprits. They had this gang and they're like all the talk is around these ones being involved. That's not even a nickname. Michael Geegan.

Yeah, Geegan. Love it. Unfortunately, though, there was just no hard evidence and none of the suspects were talking all the people that could get to talk were full of shit you know get us out of jail we'll tell you yeah but all the people who they think could actually tell the story were you know refusing to speak they all had different levels of alibis a lot of them were about drinking in bars i I love the one about going for a walk. But my other favourite was Joseph Banfield's. According to the FBI, he was not able to provide a specific account

of what he was up to on the night in question, claiming that he became drunk on New Year's Eve and remained intoxicated through the entire month of January. Because the robbery happened mid-January. That's a solid alibi. I was drunk. I was drunk from New Year's Eve. They're like, it was January 15.

Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. What's your point? I was on to a good thing. I was having a good time. Yeah. You don't get hung over if you just stay drunk.

I'm drunk. I'm drunk. I'm drunk. I'm drunk. I'm drunk. I'm drunk. I'm drunk. I'm drunk right now.

I'm drunk right now, officer. Can I just say, your uniform looks very pretty. I'm just maintaining a healthy buzz, officer. Okay. I can drive. I can go to work. I actually drive better when I've had a couple. Don't tell your friends.

Apparently the FBI spoke to one of his ex-girlfriends and she was like, no, I saw him that night. He certainly wasn't drunk. Just sold him out straight away. Drunk the whole month. Some people, you know, you can't always tell, especially if he's just keeping a real healthy buzz. Yeah.

You know, he's not slurring like I just was then when I was acting. Yes. He was microdosing. Yeah. How would she know? A couple of sips an hour. Is this an ex-girlfriend? Yes.

What would she know? A couple of sips an hour. Is this an ex-girlfriend? Yes. What would she know? She sounds bitter. There's a reason they've split up, and it's because she doesn't know him. She never really knew him. You know? She wasn't in it for the right reasons. She didn't want to connect. She doesn't know.

Yes. She was in denial about his state, whether he's drunk or not. He was pissed. And not angry. I mean, like, drunk. Okay. While the suspects weren't talking to the authorities, He was pissed. And not angry, I mean like drunk. Okay. While the suspects weren't talking to the authorities,

there were rumours circulating that there were fractures appearing behind the scenes, which is exactly what the FBI was hoping for. Okay. But time was of the essence because the clock was ticking. Ah. And, yeah, so years have gone by now. And then on November the 25th, 1952, a federal grand jury began hearings in Boston about the robbery.

According to the FBI, after nearly three years of investigation, the government hoped that witnesses or participants who had remained mute for so long might find their tongues. That's a quote from the FBI. Okay. I think that's a fun phrasing. It's in your mouth, mate. But unfortunately, this proved to be an idle hope.

After completing its hearings on January the 9th, 1953, the grand jury retired to weigh the evidence. In a report which was released on January 16th, 1953, the grand jury disclosed that its members did not feel they possessed complete positive information as to identify the participants in the robbery. Because one, the participants were effectively disguised. Two, there was a lack of eyewitnesses to the crime itself. And three, certain witnesses refused to give testimony and the grand jury was unable to compel them to do so. So they had this

whole big grand jury and they're like, there's not enough evidence for this evidence for this thank you though thank you so much thanks for getting us to look into it hey good job yeah but um bad job they were just both the whole thing was them just hoping someone would talk and then no one talked but you know it's just nice to get together that's right worth a shot yeah uh the following year January 1954, Specs was released from jail, only for another jurisdiction to start a separate burglary trial against him. It just seems like he gets out and someone's like, oh, we'll grab him. Yeah. We got one.

Our turn. Yeah. While waiting for trial, though, he was released on bail, which is wild to me. He seems like a real flight risk. But he headed home to Boston uh Boston and at this time he was in and out a few times on bail different charges in and out and when he was out he'd go back to Boston end up talking to some of these people uh you know and the FBI would see him go and visit them have long discussions with them and it sort of seemed when he was back in

town the underworld there got a little anxious it sort of seemed when he was back in town, the underworld there got a little anxious. There were rumours circulating that he was out to get Jazz and Baker as he believed they had screwed him out of some of the money. They were some of the people supposedly he'd been asking to help fund him and maybe they were minding some of his money. Okay. Luckily for Jazz, he'd been locked up himself on a tax evasion charge.

So he was sort of outside of Specs' reach. Because Specs was a hard man of crime. He was sort of like a heavy. You don't want to fuck with him. Yeah, exactly. He was a real grimace. Yes. He'd take off his glasses and then he'd fuck you.

Yeah. I don't mean sexually. He'd fuck you up. He'd fuck you up. Okay. Take the glasses, the glasses come off and you think, oh, no, this is getting serious. Yeah. I'm about to lose my thumbs. Yeah. Fuck yeah Yeah I don't mean sexually He'd fuck you up He'd fuck you up Okay Take the glasses The glasses come off And you think

Oh no this is getting serious Yeah I'm about to lose my thumbs Yeah But he doesn't want to look No Because it's gross obviously So he takes the glasses off

Yeah he doesn't want to see it It's blurry But that does mean he often missed Yes He aims for your thumbs But you might get your pinky Oh dear To be honest

I'd prefer my pinky So thank you Yeah How would I text How would I text without my pinky I'd'd prefer my pinky, so thank you. Yeah, how would I text? How would I text without my pinky? I'd text without pinky. I know. I kind of want to get rid of your pinky to teach you a lesson.

You look like an idiot. It is a weird style you have. So, Jazz is lucky. He's locked up. He's out of harm's way. Around the same time, Baker, who was the other one who the rumors were saying he might be in the gun he left town for a bit he went on a vacation with his wife lovely possibly because he heard the rumors himself you know uh so things things seem kind of quiet in

boston specs is around he seems like he's a bit upset but um nothing's really happening but apparently according to the fbi this didn't last long two weeks of comparative quiet in the gang members lives were shattered on june the 5th 1954 when an attempt was made on o'keefe's life an automobile had pulled alongside o'keefe's car during the early mornings uh the early hours of June the 5th. Apparently suspicious, O'Keefe crouched low in the front seat of his car and the would-be assassins fired bullets that pierced the windshield, but missed him. So, luckily, he just saw this car and he's like, oh, that's a bit weird.

Seems weird, yeah. I'll duck. I'll duck. A second shooting incident occurred on the morning of June the 14th. So, a week and a bit later, someone had a go at him again. Did he duck again? Well, no, this one, he sort of brought on himself a little bit more because him and one of his associates paid a visit to Baker. They found him and Baker was apparently getting real nervous and he was feeling very anxious when he got the knock at the door from O'Keefe and he pulled a gun on O'Keefe,

shot multiple times and O'Keefe shot multiple times back and neither of them got hit. The point blank frame. Missed each other, Baker fled, not injured at all. One shot in the air, one shot into the ground. That'll teach him. A third attempt on O'Keefe's life was made on June the 16th, a couple of days later. More than 30 shots were fired, probably from a machine gun. Wow.

And O'Keefe was wounded in the wrist and chest, but again he managed to escape with his life. Relatively minor injuries. Police who arrived to investigate found a large amount of blood, a shattered wristwatch and a..45 caliber pistol at the scene. Five bullets, which had missed their mark, were found in a nearby building. On June the 17th, 1954, the Boston police arrested Elmer Trigger Burke

and charged him with possession of a machine gun. Subsequently, this machine gun was identified as having been used in the attempt on O'Keefe's life. Burke, a professional killer. I mean, it's hard to say it wasn't me when your nickname's Trigger. Yeah. It's an ironic nickname. I'm an accountant.

You know, I pull the trigger and people don't pay tax. You know? You want me to file this? You want me to pull the trigger? You ready? That's one of the things I say. Filed. It's just like a fun catchphrase I have.

It's fun. I'm the trigger. I'm fun. I'm a fun accountant. You can't. So, Trigger had been hired'm fun. I'm a fun accountant. Okay. So, Trigger had been hired by someone to take out O'Keefe. Right. Maybe Fats Pino.

Maybe Fats Pino? That's what the rumours were. Okay. So, this rift is really building between- Yes. O'Keefe and Gus and the rest of the suspects. And the rest. Trigger, he killed a lot of people.

He was broken out of jail soon after this, but ended up getting done on a murder charge and was executed not too long after. Wow. Yeah. He's like, this is how you treat your accountants? Come on. But I guess the three attempts on Speck's life were enough to scare him into hiding.

So, he went away for a little while after this. Probably smart play, I reckon. I only took him to three attempts before he- Okay. All right. I get the hint. You don't want me around. I knew that something was wrong when you shot my watch, okay? I love that watch. I went, okay. Alright, I get the hint. You don't want me around. I knew that something was wrong when you

shot my watch, okay? I love that watch. I love that watch. That's how I told the time. That watch was like a son to me. Yeah, so he was in hiding for a while, but the police found him a few months later, and

on the 1st of August, he was sentenced to 27 months in prison for violating a probation. Oh, right. You're not supposed to get shot whilst on probation. I think he had guns on him and stuff. He was just doing a few things he shouldn't have been doing. Right. And it just seems like he just robs places all the time.

Yeah. He was held in a prison in a different county for his own safety. They're like, we can't hold him in Boston because, obviously, there's people in the boston scene that are after him his associate who accompanied him to that meeting with baker where they just sort of shot around each other he wasn't so lucky he disappeared on the 3rd of august and has never been seen again uh it's believed that he was probably killed because of his association with specs oh he went he went to Fiji. Yeah, exactly.

He could have lived, yeah, we don't know, he could have lived the best life. He could still be alive. Yeah, he'd be old. Yeah, he could be, like, maybe he's Tom Brady, you know what I mean? Maybe. He's old. Maybe. Yeah. Checks out. We don't know.

We can't say for sure. I haven't seen Tom Brady's birth certificate. You haven't? Oh, man. Have you? Yeah. Oh, man. Whenever I catch up, you show me that thing.

It just says Tom Brady, I am a little baby. But it's dated 1950. So, that makes him quite old. So, you just add plus 70 years. You're a math magician. We can wait for clean water solutions. Or we can engineer access to clean water. We can acknowledge indigenous cultures.

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Okay, you can't trust Fats Pino. And he suggested to FBI agents, subtly, but he said if he got out of jail again, he was going to take out Pino. He said it subtly, though. He said he might find himself a bit of mischief. Right. But he said it with a boss accent. I'll take Pino out for a Pino, if you know what I mean. Better than a boss accent. Yeah.

Despite all this, he maintained he knew nothing about the Brinks job. And this was bad news for the FBI as they saw him as the most likely to turn. But the statute of limitations only had about a year now left to run. Okay. So, they were really running out of time. The mid-50s was a tough time for many of the suspects getting in and out of jail. The mid-50s was a tough time for many of the suspects Getting in and out of jail And it was particularly bad for one of them, Banfield

Because he died at the age of just 45 In January of 1955 Seems like it was natural causes But this is the guy who was supposedly drinking for a full month Okay, no real surprises there Meanwhile, that guy that went for a two-hour walk, his health is perfect. That's right. He's doing very well.

Turns out he wasn't lying and he's the fittest man in the world. I've got a PT. Ever heard of it? Okay. He went for a two-hour walk. The fittest man in the world. What is this guy? Could you go for a two-hour walk?

No. Yeah. That's what I thought. And I'm the second fittest man in the world. What is this guy? Could you go for a two-hour walk? No. Yeah. That's what I thought. And I'm the second fittest man in the world. I know. I'm the fittest man in the world. So, O'Keefe remained in prison and he was fuming. Apparently, he was just stewing in his cell.

He was writing letters to the other suspects back in Boston being like, hey, come on. What the hell? According to the FBI, it appeared to him that he would spend his remaining days in prison while the other suspects would have many years to enjoy the luxuries of life even if released he thought his days were numbered he's like you know they're gonna take me out if i'm out if i'm in maybe i get to live a long life but i'm in jail there had been three attempts on his life and he's like, they'll have another crack at me surely once I get out. Evidently resigned to long years in prison or a short life on the outside, O'Keefe grew increasingly bitter towards his old associates.

He continued to hit them up for cash to help with his legal costs. But as time went on, he was more convinced that they were going to let him rot in jail. I feel like it took him a while to take the hint. They've literally tried to kill him multiple times. He's like, what the hell, guys? Guys, I've got some bills to pay. Whoa, whoa, I thought we were friends. Same guy.

Now, I know that there was a bit of a misunderstanding when you had multiple people shoot at me. But I forgive you. Yeah. Because we're friends. Friends don't hold grudges. We've got a history. Right, guys? If you were on the outside, though, surely you'd go, oh, that wasn't us.

Sure, we'll pay for your legal bills until the day the statute comes up. And then you go, you're never here for me again. That would be- Just keep paying. Keep him happy for six more months or whatever, nine months. Oh, man. I think they could have used that kind of advice. Just spend, you know, you've got $30 million in today's money.

Give him the million, whatever he needs for his law fees. Do whatever you can, right, just to keep him happy. Because they must also know that he'd be the most likely to turn. Yeah, just keep him happy. But this was the thing. They really were like, why would he talk? We're so close to the statute ending. If he talks, he's implicating himself as well.

Right. So, they're like, he's not going to talk. I'm in here forever. Yeah. May as well take out these pricks. Yeah, exactly. So, the FBI continued to try their luck, even though he was refusing to talk still. In the weeks leading up to the statute of limitations expiring, so there's only weeks

left now, they visited him on multiple occasions occasions would not budge until he did on the 6th of january 1956 a week or so before the statute of limitations wow when visited by two fbi agents so keith finally ready to turn informant said he'd tell them whatever they wanted to know basically was like stuff them apart from gus he was fed up with the rest of me he thought that they just left him high and dry i mean they did yeah it seems like they did a bit yeah but also it seems like i mean he was pretty aggressive about things they would have been like can we just yeah whoa whoa and why are you committing burglaries yeah so soon So soon after the burglary. Yeah. Can you lay low, please?

So, over the following days, he spilled his guts, telling them the full story in a series of exhaustive interviews. This gave the agents just enough time to corroborate his story and get arrest warrants with only six days to spare. Wow. So, it was cutting it so fine. This is me if I was a police officer. I got six years to solve it.

No worries. That's ages. I'll get this done. Week before, I'm making arrests. You're calling around, hey, do you know anything about this? Have you heard about this crime? Fuck it up. It's funny because the FBI are quite proud of this investigation

and they did great work, clearly, following a lot of dead ends. But really, if specs didn't talk, they had nothing. It was just a bitter man. Yeah. That's all it was. They were just lucky that there was infighting, basically. Wow. And then, so, the way the statute works,

if you've arrested someone by that time, then you can, you know, have a two-year trial or whatever. Or even I think the warrant is out. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Now, I'm going to tell you, and this is basically a summary of his account of what happened, and it's been summarized on the FBI's own website.

Okay. So, in the years before the robbery was carried out, all of the participants became well acquainted with the Brinks premises. Each of them had entered the premises on several occasions after the employees had left for the day. So, they're just going in. Having a look around. Having a look around, checking it out, really getting to know it.

This is in for a couple of years before this. It's like when you're doing a drama degree. You've got to walk the space, feel the space. Use the space. Understand it. Explore the space. I love it when your drama degree comes out. Every year or so, I get to talk about it once.

That's good enough for me. Yeah, and you've chosen this where we're talking about them casing a drone. You're like, yes. Like in drama when we're told to understand the space. Exactly. Feel it. Get into character. What kind of energy is the space giving you?

What kind of gait would you have if you were in this space? Close your eyes. What if you were some sort of animal from the jungle? Now, walk around like that animal. Now, lay on the floor. Look at the stars. Look at the sky. What can you see?

Is this pretty accurate to what they made you do? Man, I would have felt silly. Now, start just making some noises. Anything that's okay, just make some noises. Everyone just walk around going, Mwah, mwah, mwah. Full body cringing. I couldn't do it now, but, yeah, I committed back in the day.

Oh, man. I mean, I love it. I'm jealous of people who can do it, but I just, oh, man. It makes me think of when I did some improv classes. I did it with Alistair Trumbull-Birchall, the Whacker for Cloacka guy. As he's always known. As he's known to Jess. Yeah, I was like, who?

And a few times he came up to me and he just put his hands on my shoulders and brought them down. So I was so, like, I was feeling so awkward and tense and my shoulders were, like, right up next to my ears. I didn't even realise it. He's like, whoa, I think you're tense, mate. Yeah, bring that down, bud. You're okay.

That's so good. So, yeah, back to the summary of what happened. So during their forays inside the building, members of the gang were talking about how they figured out the locks. So when they were there, they took the lock cylinders out from five different doors, including the one opening onto Prince Street. While some gang members remained in the building to ensure that no one detected the operation, other members quickly obtained keys to fit the locks. Then the lock cylinders were replaced.

So, they took the whole locks out to a locksmith. Oh, my God. Got keys cut. Got the keys made up and then brought the lock back and put them back into the doors. I mean, that is impressive. But if you're able to do that, why can't you just do that on the day? Just take the lock out and walk in. Why do you need the key?

We're able to remove the lock. We'll get a key, mate. Yeah. Or maybe it's way faster Maybe it takes like hours or something to get it out Right yes You know and you want it to be like a quick entry thing But it is funny that you're like

We need a key Yeah For this lock that we can remove It's just wild that Yeah that they're able to have this much freedom in there Yeah they're just wandering around So Pino, Fats Pino Previously had arranged for a locksmith to keep his shop open beyond

the normal closing time on specific nights. He would then take the locks to the man's shop and keys would be made. The locksmith claimed to have no knowledge of Pino's involvement in the Bricks robbery, though. So, the FBI found this guy and he's like, oh, yeah, I know this guy. He made me open late. Yeah, those were keys like this. I had a lot of trouble at his house.

Kept bringing in the lock. He lost the key, so he brought in the entire lock at midnight a few times. A few different doors. He kept getting locked out. Silly, mate. Anyway, Fats Pino. He's a forgetful guy. Fats Pino for you.

Fats Pino, he's a forgetful guy. That's where that jingle comes from. Yeah, that makes sense. Each of the five locked cylinders were taken on a separate occasion. The removal of the locked cylinder from the outside door involved the greatest risk of detection. A passerby might notice that it was missing, for instance. Accordingly, another locked cylinder was installed until the original one was returned. Okay, so if you walk

past there's a lock sitting there yeah that's right and the door can be closed still again and i thought oh why wouldn't they just switch them all out and then they'd already have the key but then the workers would come there be like ah keys aren't working we better change the lock yeah damn it foiled again that's why I'm not a mastermind. Inside the building, the gang members carefully studied all available information concerning Brinks' schedules and shipments. The casing operation was so thorough that the criminals could determine the type of activity taking place

in the Brinks' offices by observing the lights inside the building. So they could be outside and they go, oh, these windows' lights are on. That means they're doing the counting. These lights are on, that means they're doing the counting. These lights are on, that means they're, you know, they're doing a different job. Right. And the counting is very important because that's when the most money is there. Is that why they have to wait?

The most money is there. It's also out in the open, basically. Right. Because otherwise, why wouldn't you just, when you're there and no one else is there, just grow all the money. But I suppose it's locked away. Because it's the takings of the day. Yes.

So, there's this little window where they're vulnerable, basically. It's out and about rather than in vaults. They know the security's in a certain area doing their check somewhere else and all those sort of things. All right. Check's out. Maybe I'm not a good criminal either. Just rob them now.

We're here now. Let's do it. Let's grab that pen. It looks expensive. Dave's panicking on one of the casings. There's no money here at the moment. Where's the money? There's a jar of lollies in the manager's office.

Take them. The fats, Pino, would blow his top. Dave. I would absolutely do that. We're not due to do this for another year. I was promised money. Considerable thought was given to every detail. When the robbers decided that they needed a truck,

it was resolved that a new one must be stolen because a used truck might have distinguishing marks and possibly would not be in perfect running condition. Shortly thereafter, in 1949, in November 1949, they took the green Ford truck and it was reported missing by a car dealer in Boston, but obviously it wasn't found. I love how they picked a green one as well. It feels like it's quite a distinct colour. Yeah. You don't see that many green trucks. Maybe they were big back then. Yeah, that's true. Oh, just another green truck.

During November and December of 1949, you know, a couple of months before the job, the approach to the Brinks building and the getaway route were practiced to perfection. The month preceding the January 17th robbery, they tried half a dozen times to do the job, but they were waiting for the perfect conditions. So they'd rock up, they'd check the lights, they'd go, no, not not now not tonight keep driving yeah six different times the last time was just the night before where they they

drove up so they weren't gonna they weren't panicking they weren't in a rush there was no dave warner keys in the crew oh let's just do it yeah yeah antsy because every time that happens you'd have to like psych yourself up. That's what I was thinking. But by the sixth time, you're probably like, oh, it's probably not going to happen. Yeah. And then they're like, oh, we're doing it. Oh, shit.

Put your mask on. Tell your wife you'll be back in 10. You're like, fuck, of course we're doing it now. Oh, gosh. Great. I told her I'd bring milk. Honey, I'm going for a two-hour walk. The shop's going to be closed by the time I'm done.

That's ridiculous. I'm carrying millions of dollars home. She doesn't give a shit. She just wants cereal. She just wants milk. So, during these approaches, Costa, he drove in a separate Ford. It was almost like they were sponsored by Ford. And he would set himself up on the roof of a building overlooking the Brinks building, and he'd have a flashlight.

So he would signal to them. He'd have a bit of vantage point to tell what was going on, checking the lights and everything, and he'd have a flashing light sort of system to tell them whether the job was on or not. Okay. So six times he gets up on this building and goes, not tonight, not tonight.

But eventually, on the 17th, it happens. He gives the right flash. Probably like that. That's what I would do. So, two chip, chip, chips for yes. Three chip, chip, chips for no. But a chip, chip, chip is five flashes. Are you watching his thumb at all?

Okay. So, five for yes. Five for yes. Six for no. Hang on. Was that five or yes. Five for yes. Six for no. Hang on. Was that five or was that six? Fuck. Should have come up with a better system.

So, it's the night of the robbery. They get the right... Chip, chip, chips. Chip, chip, chips. 7pm. You know that time they all decided on, funnily enough? That was also the time of the robbery. Oh. And the members of the gang met

at the roxbury section of boston and entered the rear of the ford truck banfield the driver who was drunk that whole month i'm better off for a few shots so he was alone in the front and in the back with fats pino spex o'keefe baker faraday jazz maffaffie, Gus Gasora, Michael Keegan and Sandy Richardson. Can I ask, did the guy that met the cop at the liquor store, was he there? He wasn't there, no. Oh, okay. So, it wasn't like he had six times to run to the liquor store, talk to a cop.

Oh, no. Sorry, you're right. Pino did do that. But the other guy, the guy's liquor store was. Yeah, he wasn in the gang but he was more of an right but fast pino did every time he have to try and get an alibi oh my god i never thought about that hey again good to see you anyway of course oh amazing he's like we'll see you see you tomorrow maybe See you tomorrow, maybe. If I'm not here, then I've done the robbery. What? No, what? Nothing.

If I'm not here, it's because I'm robbing. Never mind. During the trip from Roxbury, Pino distributed navy-type peacoats and the chauffeur's caps to each of the seven men in the rear of the truck. Each man was also given a pistol and a Halloween-type mask. Each carried a pair of gloves. O'Keefe wore crepe-soled shoes to muffle his footsteps, you know, like a mouse would.

And the others wore rubbers. Rubbers? Who are they fucking? Got to be safe. It's such a funny detail to have that, you know, he wore a slightly different kind of soft shoe. So that they knew that he was the leader? Yeah, but he wasn't.

He was really one of the, you know, he was one of the heavies. But did he have to go in first or something? Like, he'd be the quietest of everyone. And then everybody else is wearing tap shoes. A tap, a tap, a tap, a tap, a tap, a tap, a tap, a tap. Wait, is this a signal from- What does it mean? So, the truck drove past Brinks offices and noted that the lights were out on one side of the building.

And they're like, okay, the conditions look right to go ahead. Then everyone but Pino, that's Pino, and Banfield, the driver, stepped out and waited for Costa's signal. Costa, who was at his lookout post previously, had arrived in his Ford sedan, which the gang had stolen from behind the Boston Symphony Hall a few days earlier. So they must have also been doing that. I hadn't thought about that either. Getting a new truck every night? Yeah, they steal it. Well, because they only- they stole that green truck, but in November.

So, they've had that the whole time, I think. Oh, wow. But the Ford sedan was only stolen two days before. So, they must have had to steal a few different cars for him. After receiving the go-ahead signal from costa uh the seven men walked to the prince street entrance of brinks using the outside door key they had previously obtained the men quickly entered and donned their masks it's interesting it's um seven people here because the reports from the people the the people were tied up they even they couldn't agree on how many it was.

Right. So they were saying between five and seven. And are the masks all different or are they all trying to be the same mask? Because that would make it more difficult to remember. Yeah. I think they're all different. But, yeah, it would have been a better look to have them all the same. Yeah, everyone's got the same, like, ghost mask or something.

These masks, you know, mask technology wasn't what it is. Because they were sort of weird, they were kind of pretty freaky looking. I'll show you one of them. Oh, wow. I hate that. That is terrifying. Oh, I hate that. It looks like a mannequin, doesn't it?

Yeah. Why does it look like Michael Jackson? It does look a bit like Michael Jackson. I hate that. It's a bit creepy. Apparently, it's a Captain Marvel mask. Okay. So, like, I don't think it's meant to look freaky.

I hated that. That made me very uncomfortable. If I heard someone muffling at me like, get on the ground, get on the ground i'd be like oh my god i'll do whatever this this captain marvel wants yeah uh so yeah so they've donned their masks then the other keys in their possession enabled them to proceed to the second floor where they took the five brinks employees by surprise when the employees were securely bound and gagged the robbers began looting the premises they took everything they could they did find um one lockbox which had like the payroll for the for gm or some some huge company

but they didn't have the tools to open it so they had to leave it behind um and that was reported on a bit in the thing it was like it was always a bit sassy there were reports of like robbers take 2.7 million dollars worth. Leave a million or so behind. The robbers' carefully planned route inside Brinks was interrupted only when the attendant in the adjoining Brinks garage sounded the buzzer. They're like, oh, shit. Before the robbers could take him prisoner, they're like, oh, no, this is another guy we're going to have to take. He just walked away, apparently just oblivious to what was going on. He didn't know what was happening. He didn't know what was going on. He just walked away, and they're like oh no this is another girl we're gonna have to take he just walked away apparently just oblivious to what was going on he didn't know what was going on he just walked

away and they're like oh oh close call great they still they picked up the pace a bit but like that guy had no idea until later what was going on uh immediately upon leaving the gang loaded the loot into the truck that was parked on prince street near the door as they made their getaway the brinks employees worked themselves free and reported the crime. Banfield drove the truck to the house of Jazz Maffie's parents in Roxbury. The loot was quickly unloaded and Banfield sped away to hide the truck. Geegan, who was on parole at the time, left the truck before it arrived at the home in Roxbury where the loot was unloaded. He correctly assumed he would be considered a strong suspect and wanted to begin establishing an alibi immediately.

While the others stayed at the house to make a quick count of the loot, Pino and Faraday departed. Approximately one and a half hours later, Banfield returned with McGuinness, the liquor store guy. And prior to this time, McGuinness had, you know, been at work. He had a pretty good alibi. Yeah. He was more of an admin guy, I suppose.

And he was also, I think he was the one that cut down the truck. He did a lot of work afterwards as well. The gang members who remained at the house soon dispersed to establish alibis for themselves. Going to bars and stuff. Yeah. Bars. They're going to bars. Before they left, however, approximately $380,000 was placed in a coal hamper and removed by Baker for security reasons.

Pino, Richardson and Costa each took $20,000 and all of this was noted on a score sheet. Maybe like a Yahtzee sheet or something like that. Yeah, that's good. Got to keep track. Yeah, I love it. And also leave a bit of evidence. Bit of evidence.

Who's got what? Write down their full names and addresses. Copy of their license. Before removing the remainder of the loot from the house on January the 18th, the gang members attempted to identify incriminating items. So, they also thought any marks or anything, they'd get rid of notes that had anything that was clearly marked. Right, like my name in the corner.

Yeah. So, all your notes were in the bin. They also, they tried to age the new money just to make it less obvious. They'll do that thing on the stove where you try and make it look old. Yeah. Tea, tea bags. Burn the air. Tea bag is a different thing, Dave, but, you know.

Tea bag the money. There's nothing to age the money like a little bit of a dip and scrote. Weird phrase. Now the cup of. Yes, please. Weird phrase. Now the cap off. Yes, please. Can I remember those ads? No. For tea.

Maybe Lipton's? Maybe Twining's. Ads really work on you. They really do. They really work. So they were looking for any pencil markings or anything like that, and they got rid of them. On the night of january the 18th

specks and gus received 100 grand each from the loot uh akif had no place to keep that much money though and he told the interviewing agents that he trusted jazz maffy so implicitly that he gave the money to him for safekeeping except for five grand which he took before giving the cash over to maffy right but so that's three of them got 100 grand uh they got it yes so they're keeping it Except for five grand, which he took before giving the cash over to Maffie. Right. So, that's three of them got 100 grand. They got it. Yes. So, they're keeping it on the score sheet or are they ripping people off here?

I think it's on the score sheet. Yeah. Yeah. But by the time it goes to Maffie, he'd already tried to store it in a car and it was back and forth a few times. But anyway, he gave it to Maffie, trusted him implicitly. But as he told the FBI agents angrily, that was the last time he ever saw his share of the money. Okay.

So he really thought they'd ripped him off. Oh, wow. So he was feeling like he'd been screwed. And if he had, that's a real big blue. I imagine they regretted that. Yes. If they hadn't done that, I imagine they were like, man, you're so paranoid. While Maffie claimed that part of the money had been stolen from its hiding place and the remainder had been spent in financing O'Keefe's legal defense in Pennsylvania, which

is what he kept asking for, other gang members accused Maffie of blowing the money O'Keefe had entrusted to his care. So, it's unclear what had happened there. But I mean, I think part of it was stolen is not a great- I don't think most big-time criminals accept those sort of- Yeah. I trust that you kept my money. Oh, yeah, I did, but it's gone missing.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, no worries. You'll never believe. Oh, my God. What's my luck? Okay. Well, yeah. Why don't you say so?

Are you okay? Are you all right? That would be pretty traumatic. Are you insured? Akif was bitter about a number of matters. First, there was the money. Then there was the fact that so much dead wood was included in his words. Dead wood, like McGuinness, Banfield, Costa and Pino.

None of them were in the building when the robbery took place and they all got a cut, which seems pretty silly to me because he's talking about Banfield, the getaway driver. Yeah. You need, surely need them. That's important. Costa, the lookout who gave him the signal that it was okay to go ahead. Torchman is not getting any cred. Come on.

McGuinness, who, you know, did- And Pino as well. They weren't in there, but they seemed like they were the brains of the operation. It was Pino's idea. And doing a lot with the locks and stuff. Yeah. And, you know, McGuinness got rid of the car and all those sort of things. He's really not valuing admin. Yeah. And, you know, McGuinness got rid of the car and all those sort of things. He's really not valuing admin.

No. Like, he doesn't understand that all that work needs to go into it. Many hands make light work. I was the only one who physically took the money. But he didn't realise that, you know, he wouldn't have got in there without all the other stuff. Yeah. But it was interesting that he thought McGuinness didn't deserve the money when he'd, like, cut down the car and all that sort of stuff. But he was also enraged that pieces of the car were dumped at a tip right near his home. So, that was one of the reasons why they were like, oh. It might be him, yeah.

So, why did- of all the tips you could- you could have taken them anywhere. Why would you take it to somewhere near any of us? It doesn't make any sense. So, it just seems like it was a little bit lazy maybe go to somewhere where you can dig into the ground yeah florida yes yeah chuck it in one of them swamps yeah maybe in the bayou am i saying that right uh, after verifying his story, the FBI was able to arrest six members of the gang, Baker, Costa, Gigan, Maffie, and McGinnis, and Pino. And they were arrested on the 12th of January, 1956, just coming up to their six-year anniversary. Oh, wow. They would have thought we are home clear here. Oh, my God.

At that point, O'Keefe and Gassora were already behind bars. So, you know, they didn't need to be arrested again. And Banfield had died. He was the one who... Drunk for January. Drunk for January, died very young, 45. This left only Faraday and Richardson unaccounted for. They'd fled and were placed on the FBI's 10 most wanted fugitives list.

They managed to avoid detection for months until May the 16th when their hiding place in Dorchester, Massachusetts was uncovered. I know I'm saying Massachusetts wrong. That must be so annoying to new listeners. I said it wrong as a joke for a while. Now I can't not say it like that. But apparently they were in this hidden room inside a house and they did not say it like that. Yeah. But apparently they were just- They were in this hidden room inside a house and they did not leave it for those months.

Right. Because they're worried that if they leave that room, they'll go to prison or they'll be locked inside a room. Yeah, exactly. That's right. And so, the guy whose house that was, another criminal guy, he ended up getting done for being an accessory after the fact. Wow.

Yeah. Before they were put to trial, Gus started getting sick, and when he was visited by a priest, he got up, fell over, and died. Turned out he had a brain tumour. Oh. And so Gus and O'Keefe, that was O'Keefe's closest mate. He's the only one he actually liked. Yes, in the end, for sure.

According to the FBI, they had been close friends for many years, and when O'Keefe admitted his part in the robbery, he told of his high regard for Gasora. As a government witness, he reluctantly would have had to have testified against him, but Gasora had now passed beyond the reach of all human authority and O'Keefe was all the more determined to see that justice would be done. Oh, right.

But, yeah, I think there was like this weird blessing almost that, I mean, for him in a very selfish way. His friend died so he didn't have to screw his friend over. The FBI continues, With the death of Gasora, only eight members of the Brinks gang remained to be tried. On January the 18th, O'Keefe had already pleaded guilty to his part in the crimes for a reduced sentence. The trial of these eight men began on the morning of August the 6th, 1956, before Judge Phileas Forte, which is a fantastic name, in the Suffolk County Courthouse in Boston.

More than 100 people took the stand as witnesses for the prosecution and the defence. The most important, of course, was Spex O'Keefe, probably the only one really required. Yeah. Do you trust a man who has to have glasses? No. Who knows what he saw? He doesn't even know.

I saw a blob and another blob, probably maybe five blobs, and they all had blobby faces. One of them had a really fat pinot. I think this guy Frank was involved. Oh, come on! Thrown completely under the bus. Specs carefully recited the details of the crime, clearly spelling out the role played by each of the eight defendants.

And at 10.25.m on october the 5th 1956 the jury retired to weigh the evidence three and a half hours later the verdict had been reached all were guilty the eight men were sentenced by judge forte on october the 9th 1956 each receiving a life sentence or more oh whoa yeah baker died in prison only a few years later in 1961 a few of the other ones died in prison but they started getting released you know uh after like 13 14 15 years for good behavior and whatever they were paroled and the last surviving member of the group was adolph jazz maffey who was released after serving 13 years. After his release, Maffie told the Washington Post, it was an adventure.

Pino kept telling us money was in there. He never stopped. It's hard to explain, but it was exciting. We were younger. Of course, I wouldn't do it now. It's so funny because you think of them as these, in my head, it's always like old, hardened criminals. Yeah.

And then you go, oh, it's just these sort of young guys who are doing this wild thing. Basically, one of the other ones got out and went back to his just normal job for the rest of his life, maybe 20 years or something. And apparently, he always said to his kid that he hardly ever mentioned it. But when he did, it was basically like, there was money there to be taken. Why not take it? That was his sort, there was money there to be taken. Why not take it? That was his sort of logic.

Yeah, say that to your kids. There's money in, like, places like banks and, you know, you could just go take it. I think the logic was kind of like it doesn't really belong to anyone. It's just money, you know. And that's what, you you know i think a lot of the public saw it that way as well these big companies like insurance companies these security companies banks you know it's just money they'll get more money yeah they got lots of money the

bank will be okay exactly they'll be all right uh so jazz maffey lived till september 1988 dying at the age of 77. Spexo Keefe, he was released from jail in 1966, the year the Saints won their only AFL-VFL premiership, and he assumed a new identity, presumably under the protection of the FBI. Right, and, like, no one tried to whack him in prison or whatever because he'd switched on so many... I think he was in protective custody in prison, basically. And it's unknown what he got up to in his final decade of life as a free man.

According to Thomason, he died in a West Coast hospital under a false name in March of 1976 at the age of 67. When Thomason's journalists tried to talk to the FBI agent about what he'd been up to, he wouldn't answer any questions. Oh. Even after he died, it's like, you know. So, yeah. Even after he died, he stopped talking. Unbelievable.

Wow, rude. Come on, mate. Nothing left to lose. Yeah, he was the loosest lipped of them all. Yeah. Spill the gus. Reports vary on how much of the loot ended up being recovered by authorities, but it seems like the vast majority never was.

Still to this day, according to the Daily Beast, only 60 grand of the money has been recovered. Wow, that's a drop in the ocean. Yeah. As reported in the Boston Globe in 2020, Stephanie Scharro, who I was talking about before, who wrote a book about the heist. The heist of the century. Exactly.

She said that while there are many theories of where the missing money went, the likely answer is that the robbers just quietly spent it. The rest might be buried somewhere, she said. I don't know if you'd call it burying, but buried at sea is a thing. In the ocean, absolutely. But all indications are that the robbers spent the money little by little, often in investments that went bust or on gambling and boozing. Oh, man.

You've got to invest in stuff that won't go bust. Yeah. That's the trick. How do people not know that? One of them bought a house straight after for like a grand or something. So, you think about the money and they're just getting like, you know, conservatively they're getting 100 grand cuts, but they should be getting more if they were able to break it all down.

But 100 grand and one of those grand buys a house? It's probably 100 houses. What a fortune that is. So, when I said before that it's 30 million in today's money, that 30 million gets you a different thing now than it would have been as well in terms of houses and stuff. Sorry to get all economic. I did a unit of economics in year 11.

I saw someone break it down recently. It was on TikTok and it was also English, but I think it was still, you know, relevant. But like, you know, back in the day, even our parents' generation would buy a house for the equivalent of a year's salary for them. And now it's like six, seven, eight years salary for a bit of a shithole to be honest yeah so that's just a wild kind of made me scream a little bit yeah houses went from a place to live to a place to invest it yeah somewhere along the line and it's for i think it's for the best that's why i have multiples you bought 100 houses with your 100 grand yeah i think that's fair the fuck did you get 100 grand?

You robbed a bank Money was there For the taking Why not take it? Dave Oh shit I said never talk about this Especially not into a microphone

Oh my god I thought you were going to say Especially not to Jez Yeah we can't trust her And I felt so left out for a second I was like what? It's the microphone We said we were doing gigs in the UK last year

Really we were just robbing bags. Aww. Scarra continues, it was truly almost the perfect crime. No one was hurt in the robbery, and that is important to remember. People still wonder how a group of somewhat bumbling thieves were able to pull off such a well-timed heist. Think of the popularity of Ocean's Eleven and its remakes. The idea of a crime with fabulous loot in which no one is even scratched is always compelling.

So, she's- I mean, she's trying to sell her book, but she's talking it up. And the heist, obviously, you know, was kind of cinematic and as such has been the inspiration for at least four different films. Wow. Including one called Brinks, The Great Robbery, starring Leslie Nielsen, but not a comedy. Aw. And The Brinks Job, starring Peter Falk. Peter Falk.

Peter Falk. Columbo. Columbo himself. Wow. One more thing. Yeah. So, that's the story of The Great Brinks Robbery. Oh.

Wow. Incredible. We love a heist. Yeah. And I'm amazed that we can still find ones that are that epic that, honestly, it would rank up there with one of the great heists and I've never heard of it. No.

I've never heard of it either. Before movies. That's right. I am a bit disappointed that it got so close to the Statue of Libertations and then they all got busted. I hated it too. But they are criminals. You're right.

But that does add to the drama of the story, doesn't it? The fact that they were a week from retirement Literally, they could have retired on that money And then the guy snitched them out Because stupidly they didn't look after him Yes, that was the only thing that pulled it apart Was just the, yeah, one article said The only thing they didn't think about was group morale

Yes, but maybe, you know, the FBI are pretty proud of it But really it's just because the guy sn. Maybe they did some great psychology there in their ear saying, they're living out on a yacht and you're here rotten. I feel like they must have been part of it and it does seem like they did do great work. You know, about $30 million of great work. Yeah, lots of good paperwork. It cost so much money. And then they never got any of it back but that's the price of justice. 30 million.

That's the price. It was- Funnily enough, I hadn't heard of this one. I'd never heard of Brinks, I don't think, even though it's possibly come up on a different episode. But it seemed like Loomis Fargo is one of these kind of companies as well. Oh, yeah. Remember, we did the Loomis Fargo heist. That's right.

And Brinks. But I- So, I put this topic up for the vote with two other Brinks robberies. There's three Brinks robberies? There's even more than that. And this one only just beat out an English one by a vote. I'm going to put it up for the vote again next time because it was so close. I'm going to do a second chance draw.

And that's also Brinks, though? Also Brinks, yeah. Incredible. Wow. Look forward to that. Always love a heist. Yeah. But there's also Brinks, though. Also Brinks, yeah. Wow, look forward to that. Always love a heist. Yeah, but there's, I mean, talk about ones you don't know of. There's, I saw one page of just all Brinks heists. I think there was like eight different ones.

Whoa. I'm starting to feel sorry for Brinks. Yeah. Well, that brings us to everyone's favourite section of the show where we thank some of our fantastic Patreon supporters. I think I said last week, without without them this show wouldn't exist and i i i lay in bed thinking about that it's unfair to uh not also say thanks so much everyone just for listening keeps the show going yes without listeners why would we be doing this so anyone who listens anyone thank us i mean i think i could still make the show without you two,

but not without the listeners. Just be a man yelling in a room. Jess is not even smiling for the listeners at home. She is looking- Imagine. Fuming. Can you- I am so confident that if you tried to do this without us- It would be big.

It would flop. It would be big, baby. Oh, my God. It would flop. It would be big, baby. Oh, my God. It would flop around the world. You'd feel like such a fucking idiot. I'd record all the parts. Would you? It would take me three times as long, but it would be three times as good.

I think it would be absolute trash and people would turn on you real quick. I mean, if they're turning on me, that means they've tuned in. So, I'll take it. But anyway, yeah, thanks everyone for listening. We love you. This section is where we thank some of our fantastic Patreon supporters. If you want to get involved, go to patreon.com slash do go on pod. We know that not everyone can support, so there's zero pressure.

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And the first thing we do is thank a few people via the fact quote or question section, which if you want to get involved in, you go to patreon.com slash do go on pod and sign up on the Sidney Scharnberg level. And I think this section actually has a little jingle. It goes like this. Something like this. You can do it. Oh, she's trying to prove a point here.

Fact, quote, or question. Ding. I always remember the ding. It is just a man yelling in a room. It was just a room. You sound like you've lost your mind. I think it has a little jingle that goes something like this, and then you sing to yourself.

Ah, I always remember the jingle and the single. And that was the ding. I'd say I've mucked it up. Damn it. All right. Jess, you are important. Jess was right in the end. You're important.

So what this section involves is one of our great supporters They give us a fact, a quote, or a question, or a brag, or a suggestion Or a joke, or a recipe, or really anything at all Anything And they also get to give themselves a title The first one up this week is Logan Husky One of my favourite names of all time And Logan has got the title of

Plagiarist of good jokes off QI And passing them off as his own Love that Well I think he really failed at the first hurdle then of passing it off as his own. Yeah. And Logan's offering a quote writing, the problem with quotes from the internet is that you can never be absolutely sure who said them. And that was Abraham Lincoln.

That's good stuff. Thank you, Logan. The next one comes from Michael Derizzi, aka Go Chiefs. Chiefs won the Super Bowl not too long ago. And Michael is offering a fact, writing, in honour of my favourite team, the Kansas City Chiefs, making and hopefully winning the Super Bowl. I got good news for you, Michael. He's been waiting for this to find out. I have an interesting fact about them. Please declare it fun, Bob bop well we'll see arrowhead stadium where the chiefs play hold the guinness world record for the loudest stadium

crowd roar at 142.2 decibels this happened when they played the new england patriots in september 2014 and the defense sacked quarterback tom brady for context a jet engine is 140 decibels and noises of 120 decibels can cause immediate hearing loss. Wow. So, all those people got hearing damage from the people around them. Wow. Whoa. A bonus, hopefully fun fact is the next day, the major league baseball team, Kansas City Royals beat the Oakland A's in a thrilling come-from-behind 12-inning wildcard playoff win. An incredible two days for KC sports fans. Okay, the first bit was fun. First, I can declare the second one dull for sure.

See, that's a rare double. Yeah. Fun and dull. Derizzi, I love it. It's so good. If you could include a grim fact for me next time please yeah uh the next one comes from angelo del judas and i apologize for forever calling you angelo del gaducci which is so far off wow oh incredible finally uh angelo must have cracked and he sent through a phonetic spelling uh look forward to me

saying it wrong again next time but you know if you want to keep the phonetic spelling in brackets next to your name until it gets into my thick head uh that'd be welcome uh anyway angelo wrote i was about to translate again but i don't have it in front of me so this is what i'm talking about i know i need to be reading the phonetic spelling to see all right uh so angelo's title is so i tied an onion to my belt which was the style at the time give me four b's you'd say and angelo's asking a question writing i do believe this is a quote and a question how good is it to be alive? And that's a quote by, as he writes, Matty Stu. Matty Stu. And answer the question. Very good. Very good. Yeah. It's very good. Again, indifferent. Oh, okay. We'll win her back. Angelo says, cheers. Looking forward to your

2023 North American tour. Hey, Angelo, me too. And Stephen Edmonds, okay, someone beginning to wonder how long I can continue this joke, has a question. And the question is, what is a nice biscuit? Answer, a thin rectangular plain biscuit with nice printed on top. A few claim to have invented it, including Arnott's, which brings us to another Arnott's product, the Mari biscuit, which I've only ever known as an ingredient for chocolate hedgehog slice. Agreed. Our mum used to love crushing up some Mari biscuits for a few different recipes. Yeah, cheesecake base.

Cheesecake base. I think maybe it was in a lemon slice. Yes. Yeah, yep, yep. Stephen goes on. Don't worry, Dave. Was in a lemon slice? Yes.

Yeah. Yep. Yep. Stephen goes on. Don't worry, Dave. This is a no-bake recipe, though it does involve a microwave and a refrigerator. Oh, I don't have a microwave. Sorry.

Just leave it out in the sun. Yeah. I've used a few different recipes over the years, but this one comes from our old friend Cookery the Australian Way with some alterations. All right. Pens at the ready. Here we go. This is what you're going to need. Yep.

125 grams butter. Yep. 160 grams caster sugar. Got it. Two tablespoons cocoa. Mm-hmm. Two tablespoons coconut. Yep.

One large egg, beaten, still wet. Okay. Half a teaspoon vanilla. Yep. Still wet. 250 gram packet of Mari biscuits. Yes. How do you want them?

Crushed. Fantastic. Melt butter and sugar in a microwave in short bursts, stirring in between or out in the sun, Dave. It's going to take a while. On the bonnet of your car. Add cocoa and mix well. Then quickly, because it will be hot, stir in egg, coconut and vanilla.

Mix in crushed biscuits. Press into shallow baking tray and chill. Top with a simple chocolate butter icing. Cut up into fingers. Some people will have included walnuts or glazed cherries, but I'm not a fan, so I'll leave those out. Appreciate that. Fair enough. P.S. I don't know if it would have been brought up, but I have a vague memory of a TV ad where the punchline was that the husband had returned from shopping with the wrong thing, where nice biscuits is what was written on the shopping list.

Oh, yeah. I tried to find the ad, but I didn't. That's fun. Yeah. Go get some nice biscuits. And when you come home with like a Monte Carlo or something. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like one time I was asked to get staples from the shop. What are my favorite stories about you? Okay. You went to the shops to get staples from the shop. What are my favourite stories about you? Okay, you went to the shops to get staples. Fantastic, we all know what that means. Yeah. Great. Yeah. And what staples did you bring home?

So, what was meant was milk. Milk, bread. Bread, eggs. Basics. I brought home... A packet of staples. A packet of staples. I think, you know what, i think people just need to be clearer

if they're sending me on an errand it's so fun it's one of my favorite stories i love it yeah but i get it because i don't use the word staples for that kind of stuff so i i get it but it's still very funny yeah just get milk and bread and you're like, well, I got a pack of staples. That should sustain us for the weekend. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I guess I'm a literal person. And I guess I didn't have to do the house shopping for a while. You didn't have to.

You lost that privilege. I mean, I think people just started being a bit more specific when they wanted things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With phonetic spellings. Milk. Bread. Just in brackets, milk again. Bread.

I guess bread. Bread. Maybe without the A? Yeah. Breed. Breed. Breed. Anyway, thank you very much for those facts, quotes, and questions.

Always love getting a Steven Edmonds recipe. Have you tried any of them yet? Dave, I'd love you to try that recipe there. Okay, we'll have to buy the microwave. You can borrow mine. Thank you. Microwaves are pretty cheap, dude. Just go get a microwave.

This doesn't really fit in my cupboard. We had one, moved to a new place, didn't fit in the new cupboard, just haven't got a new microwave. We went, oh, we don't need it anymore. We'll get one later. It's been two and a half years without one. I think I've learned to live without it. Just wait for hard rubbish day.

I never use it. It's just my parents are going to chuck it out. I'm like, I'll take it. But I wish I didn't. It takes up so much space on a bench. Yeah. Bench space, honestly. Is that a premium? It is at a premium.

I have not used it once. I don't think. Maybe I've used it once. I like the stovetop. Yeah, I'm a stove guy now. Porridge on the stovetop. Pasta on the stovetop. My two meals.

All right. Well, that brings us to the point of the show where we thank a few of our other great supporters. Jess, you normally have a bit of a game based on the topic at hand. Yeah. Alibis? Yes, that's good. They're alibi. Okay.

They all account at 7pm. Where were they at 7pm? That's the question. All right. Should I kick us off? Please. I'd love to thank, from McBride in Canada, it's Patrick Penner All right. Should I kick us off? Please. I'd love to thank from McBride in Canada. It's Patrick Penner.

PP. PP. Patrick Penner. At 7pm, Patrick was ice skating. Ice skating, yes. Okay. A lot of witnesses. Heaps of witnesses, lots of people around.

Well, and people, Patrick was memorable because Patrick was doing beautiful spins in the air. Yeah, beautiful spins. But unfortunately was wearing a Halloween mask. So nobody could tell. But they were really impressed. Frank, is that you? Oh, great work, Patrick. Frank Penner.

I'd also love to thank- Oh, no. Address unknown. Can only assume from deep within the fortress of the moles. I'd love to thank Jason John Armitage. Oh, no. Three names. Jason John Armitage. Oh, no, three names. Jason John Armitage.

We know based on- I love Dooga One quotes on Twitter. Saw one a little while ago. What's one of yours, Dave? It said, people with three names, we know they're either a serial killer or John Cougar Mellicamp. I don't remember saying that. I couldn't sleep recently and was reading Dooga On Wisdom and I don't care that it's

quoting us because I don't remember any of it and it's all out of context it's very funny That is funny, John Cougar Mellicamp Where did you come up with these ideas? We also don't know who runs it but their pinned tweet is very helpful to me because it has like a

phonetic spelling of Akron, Ohio. That's right. Oh, man. My favorite Twitter account. Very self-indulgent. But Jason John Armitage. JJ.

The alibi is, I was trying to perfect a backflip on the trampoline in the backyard. Any witnesses? No, but when the police come around, he says, watch, I'll show you. And he does a backflip perfectly. And they go, well, I guess he had to practice that sometime. Yeah. Might have- could have been in the previous 30 years of his life. Or it could have been just that one night.

Specifically between 7 and 9 p.m. Okay. Well, can't get him on that. Great work, JJ. I'd also love to thank, finally for me, from Burping Gary. Oh, my God. Incredible. No, I'm not even in Queensland.

What are you doing? I'm Burping Gary. Burping Gary is- Baby Gary. What are you doing? I'm Burping Gary. Burping Gary is- Baby Gary. He's got gas. Baby Gary's gassy. Sorry, I'm Burping Gary. I'll be right with you.

Oh, that is fantastic. If that's anywhere near- I'm going to be in Brisbane in a couple of months. If it's anywhere near there, I know Queensland is a big place, but I will- Not that is fantastic. If that's anywhere near, I'm going to be in Brisbane in a couple of months. I'm going to, if it's anywhere near there, I know Queensland is a big place. It is. Not that far out. Just north of Brisbane in the Moreton Bay region. I see a road trip coming on.

But anyway, from Burpingarry, the whole community of Burpingarry is sitting on the edge of their seat. I'd love to thank Fiona. Fiona from Burpingarry. Fiona at 7pm. She was picking up a microwave from Hard Rubbish. Wow. Good. Yeah.

Setting it up. That's right. Testing it, seeing if it had that plate on the inside, see if it still spins. Needed a clean, but it works. I'm going to my parents for dinner tonight, and I don't know what crap of theirs I'm going to leave with tonight. I'm like, I should just say to them, please, op shop it.

Yeah. I always leave with this stuff, and then I end up taking to the op shop. Yeah. Or it takes up bench space, which is at a premium. At a premium. I think I still have the old VCR player. You don't need that. I don't need it.

You don't need that at all. Get rid of it. The microwave is so old. It's huge. It's a walk-in microwave. Yeah. So, Fiona. Oh, no. Yeah, Fiona. That's right. Hard rubbish. walk-in microwave. Yeah. So, Fiona. Oh, no.

Yeah, Fiona. That's right. Hard rubbish. Fiona from Burp and Gary. Oh, my God. Never forget you. Fiona from Burp and Gary. Would you like me to thank some beautiful people?

Yeah, go for it. I would like to thank- This person is also from Location Unknown. Can only assume that they are just down the road from Joseph and John Armitage in the Fortress of the Moles. And this person is Nami McCracken. What the heck? McCracken. That is a fantastic name. this person is Nami McCracken. What the heck? McCracken.

That is a fantastic name. Nami or Nami McCracken? 7pm, they were manning the barbecue, a big family function. Someone's got to flip the chops. Lots of witnesses, let me tell you that. Yeah, and they're wearing an apron with fake tits on it. Yeah, so it was memorable. You don't forget a thing like that. Everyone said, that. Yeah. And they're wearing an apron with fake tits on it. Yeah. So, it was memorable. You don't forget a thing like that.

Everyone said, that's funny. That's funny stuff. That's funny. Had the whole barbecue laughing. Laughing and laughing. That is classic McCracken, they said. Oh, man. You're McCracken me up here, they said.

Nami's done it again. Nami went to leave and they were saying, no, Nami, stay. Yes, I'm doing Ostentatious' Australiana Volume 2. Wow. So I was at a barbecue. Just to thank some more people, Dave. I would like to thank now from Dundee in Scotland, Robbie Proctor. Robbie Proctor.

Robbie Proctor. Home of the Stuart's Dundee Decanter Scotch. Absolutely beautiful drop. But at 7pm, Robbie was out on a boat. Yes. Trying to find Loch Ness. Just all lapsed. Trying to find that monster.

He's out there somewhere. Nessie I think What a wild way to try and find it Because if you find Nessie in a boat You're probably not going to live to tell the tale It's all over for you Yeah I don't know if Nessie's

You know angry Or whatever But at the very least You know Protective Some big waves Yeah Probably protective

Very secretive Very secretive Probably at least be awkward, you know, probably say something like, sorry, I'm just out for dinner with my family. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not doing photos at the moment. You might not do photos.

Sorry. Selfie Nessie? Thanks for understanding. Sorry. But, yeah, I'm sure you understand. Thank you. I would also like to thank from Rochester in Minnesota. Rochester.

Rochester. It's Alexander Buchholz from Rochester in Minnesota. Rochester. Rochester. It's Alexander Buchholz. That's right. Rochester. That was on the book sheet about Jane Eyre. Rochester. From Rochester. Rochester.

Alexander Buchholz, who at 7pm was trying on a series of novelty hats. Oh, what did they end up going for? Cowboy hat. Good choice. But it's a light up cowboy hat. Oh. Not a lot of novelty hats. Oh, what did they end up going for? Cowboy hat. Good choice. But it's a light-up cowboy hat. Oh! I was going to say, not a lot of novelty there. No, you push a button and it's like a full show on Alexander's head.

Fucking sick. So the cops saw the hat and went, checks out, no worries, we'll keep- As you were. Keep moving. May I thank some people as well? The hat also had one of those LED screens and it displayed the date and time on it. Which is very handy.

Can't be faked. It cannot be faked. I would love to thank from Brunswick, Victoria. Oh, my God, that's where we are right now. Crazy. Francis Batchelor. Great name. Francis Batchelor.

Very good. Frankie B. Frankie Batch. Frankie theie the batch i'm sure um what was francis bachelor doing at 7 p.m though going for a three-hour walk oh wow that's a long walk that's a big walk fittest per new record just around just around brunswick like wow yeah they went up to uh hot potatoes yep see if there's any bargains for sale. Wow. If that shop's still open.

They also went to, I'm trying to think of a Brunswick landmark. Multiple Coles. Yeah, they went to the Multiple Coles. The Good Coles, the Shit Coles. Yep. The Shit IGA. Yeah. Crust Pizza.

Went to Lob's Cafe. Bought a few wedding dresses. Yeah. Oh, God. So many wedding dress shops. Went to Alicia. So, you really got a lot done, Francis. Yeah.

Very impressive. Got a Turkish bread. Tried on a couple of pairs of Dijon jeans. Yeah, had them tailored. Gotta go pick them up next week. Got that pink slip. Fantastic. Great work.

Thank you, Francis. I would also like to thank from Paddington in Queensland. I didn't know there was a Paddington in Queensland. Maria Wolford. Maria Wolford. Maria Wolford. What Maria was up to, and this was really good, she was catching a foul ball at Fenway Park.

Whoa. Wow. Yeah. That's pretty cool. There's obviously going to be some footage of that. Yeah. Well, unfortunately not. Oh, no.

The FBI went through the footage and, yeah, for some reason it didn't happen, but Maria swears it did. Wow. She has a ball. Oh, yeah. If you want any more proof, then speak to her lawyer. Yeah. God.

He's got it. These FBI, they ask a lot, don't they? Yeah. She's got a ball. She's got a ball. We get it. Okay. Where else could she have got that from?

Yeah. Idiots. I mean, yeah. She, don't they? Yeah. She's got a ball. She's got a ball. We get it. Okay. Where else could she have got that from? Yeah. Idiots. I mean, yeah, she flew over to Boston. Yeah. And back on the night. Easy. She just got a return flight on the night. It's not that hard.

And finally, for me, I would love to thank from Colorado Springs in Colorado, Ben Randles. Ben Randles was performing in an Arnold Schwarzenegger impression competition and- Had Ben go. Came second. Oh, that's not bad. Pretty good. That's not bad. Is it because Arnie turned up?

Yeah, he turned up, but Arnie actually came third. Wow, that's embarrassing. He was better at being Arnie than Arnie is. Wow. But then another guy was better at being Arnie than Ben is, so Arnie felt really embarrassed. What? And he said, I'll be back next year. There's a Damien Cowell song called Barry Gibb Came Second

in a Barry Gibb Lookalike Competition. That's very good. Well, that brings us to the Triptych Club. Now, Jess, you're the best at explaining how this works. Yes. So, if you support Do Go On at patreon.com slash dogoonpod, for three consecutive years you are welcomed warmly into the Triptych Club. It's an exclusive but not in a weird way, cool club but not in a cult way,

where we've got a bar, we've got a kitchen, we'll make you some food. We've got a bar-all. We've got a bar-all. We've got a bar we got a kitchen make you some food we got a borrow we got a bar um uh and and everything you could possibly desire dave usually books a band i'm behind the bar with snacks and stuff dave have you booked a band you're never gonna believe it what boston's own the mighty mighty boss tones The Mighty Mighty Boss Tones. Oh. A-dropping by the borough. Oh, my God. No relation. That's amazing. That is huge.

That's the impression that I get is one of theirs. Knock on wood. Wait, that's the same song? Yeah, that's the same song. Yeah, that's the same song. The Rascal King. Worth mentioning twice. That's another one of theirs, I think.

Oh, that's great. They only just recently broke up. Oh. But they're back together theirs, I think. Oh, that's great. They only just recently broke up. Oh. But they're back together for one night only. Wow. We've got so many people to welcome into the club this week as well. So, how it works is Matt's going to raise up the velvet rope, read out your name. Everybody's going to be cheering.

Dave's going to hype you up. I'm going to hype Dave up. It's going to be wild. It's going to be a big party tonight. This is going to be big. Yeah. So excited to be welcoming these people in. We're going to be drunk for a month yes

uh so let me kick it off here we go you ready dave here we go this list is so long i'm gonna lose my mind all right from altona meadows here in victoria it's daniel almond something about nuts come on here we go the night the Dave. Here we go. The night- First one. Here we go. The night has become nutty. It's Daniel Almond. From Wellington in Somerset in Great Britain, it's Aaron Filler.

This night is all Aaron, no Filler. From Hearst in Texas in the United States, it's Tim Liggett. This person's not from the worst. They're from Hearst. It's Tim Liggett. The next person's from- Oh, address unknown. Shroom from deep within the fortress of the knolls. It's Tim Liggett. This person's not from the worst. They're from Hearst. It's Tim Liggett. The next person's from, oh, address unknown, Shum from deep within the fortress of the knolls. It's Tim Nott.

I actually really dislike this person. Nott? That's my uncle. That's my uncle. Oh, there you go. Uncle Tim. The joke there is that I do like this person. For people who don't know, Perkins is a stage name.

Jess's real surname is not just that's not how families work okay everyone has the same name from brunswick east in victoria australia it's michael russell let me rustle up a michael and here it is from hayward in california it's chad i love chad i love you chad Chad from California. This ain't no fad. This is a Chad. Woo! From Bonnythorne in the Australian Capital Territory, it's Jaden Black. We're back in Jaden.

Black. From Heathfield in Essex in Great Britain, it's George. George. George. Forge. Forge on. Forge on George on George on

Yeah the party George is on From Lemgo In Deutschland It's Frederick Heinen I'm gonna Lemgo Let you Let you go

In Lemgo in Woo Trifters Club From Tumble In Texas In the United States It's Alan Peach

This night is getting pretty Alan Peachy. From Babinda in Queensland, Australia, it's Anne Penny. In for an Anne, in for a Penny. From Melbourne, Australia, it's Shelby Seddon. This night ain't Seddon Tree, it's Shelby Seddon. Hell yeah. From Auckland in New Zealand, it's Jenny Stringleman. Oh, my God, every name is Zealand it's Jenny Stringleman oh my god every name is so good today

Stringleman um if I was a single man I'd ask you to marry me there it is from Auckland from from Mullingar

in Ireland it's Alan Coyle. I was prepared to shuffle off this mortal coil, and then I met Alan, and now I'm back in, baby. From Tulsa, Oklahoma, it's Jeanette A. Newton. Jeanette A. Newton's cradle. You're cradling this night. Newton's cradle, you know that thing that the balls go back and forth? Sure.

From Dublin in Ireland, it's Robin Blakey. I didn't know that thing that the balls go back and forth Sure From Dublin in Ireland It's Robin Blakey I ain't no fakey, I'm Robin Blakey And finally from Panania In New South Wales, Australia It's Beck Gardner There's one person I dig It's Beck Gardner

This was your best, I reckon Thank you so much to and welcome in Beck, Robin, Jeanette, Alan, Jenny, Shelby Anne, Alan, Frederick, George, Jaden Was your best all right yeah i agree thank you so much to and welcome in beck robin jeanette alan jenny shelby anne alan frederick george jayden chad michael tim tim aaron and daniel oh my god i missed cassie from brunswick oh cassie he's lost it now i'm out of the zone uh cassie uh cause sheep also known as. No sheep. Oh yeah, you ain't no sheep. You're Cassie. Yeah. And

finally, from address unknown, assumingly from deep within the fortress of the moles, it's Jen Wilson. Jen Wilson. Wilson. Wilson, you're 10 out of Jen. Thank you so much also to Jen and Cassie once again and welcome into the club, make yourselves at home.

Now, that brings us to the end of the episode. People who want to get involved, go to patreon.com.com.com. What else do we need to tell people, Jess? That they can go to our website, dogoonpod.com, find us at dogoonpod across all social media and you can suggest a topic. There's a link in the show notes and it's also on our website. There's also other podcasts in our network.

Dave does a great show about classic novels called Book Cheat, where he reads the book so you don't have to. Stop reading. I've done it for you. And I do a show called Who Knew It With Matt Stewart, where I write a quiz. No, actually, the listeners basically do. So, I don't have to.

And it's just a bit of fun. Jess does a podcast called Simply The Jess. Check out all these as well if you're looking for another thing to look for. Now, Dave, boot this baby home. We'll be back next week with another episode. But until then, also, thank you so much for listening and goodbye. Laters. Bye.

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