Do Go On - 4 - The Academy Awards

Episode Date: November 17, 2015

Get ready to smash the movie round of your next pub quiz, because Dave Warneke has a report on the film industry's night of nights... The Academy Awards. How did they start? Who picks the winners? Who...'s won the most awards? How did Whoopie Goldberg lose her statue? And who the hell is Oscar? Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:02:41 Context to this before we recorded this this podcast lady. You've contacted this before we recorded this podcast and we ran into our good comedy but Nick Kapper who asked if we were going to call the show Skinny Boy which is my mind nickname quite thin. Crow lady which is Jess. Because they're smart and I know how to use tools. According to Kapper, yeah I'm like you pro. Matt, the bearded widow because you have a beard and you're a little off center. Which I like it. I think it's catchy. It's concise. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:13 It's not as concise as do go on six letters. Yeah. Skinny Boy, Crow Lady and the bearded widow. I don't know what sort of Twitter handle we'd have for that. The acronym would be terrible. Yeah. Or if it would be terrible. Yeah. Or if we're being factually accurate, the initialism. Do you know the difference between an acronym and an initialism?
Starting point is 00:03:32 I guess an acronym is different to an initialism. That's correct. In some way. Very good. What's the difference? So an acronym is where it spells out a word, like FIFA, the World Cup An initialism is when you say it out loud
Starting point is 00:03:49 So you'd say it's a quiet place. We haven't even started yet, and I'm already learning there you go Right, I felt like because we claim it to be a fact-based podcast. I should not call it an acronym when it's not Yeah, let's enter. I did not know that either. I did not know that either. And there we go. Learning and growing together, which is what we do on this show. And we take it in turns to prepare a class report, if you will, on one topic. And in long form, sort of prepare the report and discuss it with the other two people who don't know what the topic is going to be. And this week, it is my turn to research research something and we always start with a question. My question to both of you, Crow Lady, Beaded Weedy.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Beaded Weedy, please. They should be Beaded Weedy, but anyway, my question to start off my report is what do you think is the world's most prestigious entertainment award? Logies. I've I was getting it. I've got written here. Please don't say the Australian TV week logo. Nah, come on. It's my dream to win a logo. Is it really?
Starting point is 00:04:53 Nah. You could reckon you could get there one day because open it. You get on TV, step one, step two. Just get your friends to vote in the TV week. Oh, yeah. It's because it's a popularity contest. It's not really based on talent.
Starting point is 00:05:04 It's popularity. Well, I think there's a split actually if we're gonna be accurate again There are some popular voted categories, but there are also some industry. Okay. Yeah, cuz I was gonna say what about most popular? Yeah, that's that's a that's a vote I'm actually a most popular according to a panel of five Then there's most excellent. Oh, no, that's that's doing Ted. What is it? the five-pink ball. Then there's most excellent. Oh no, that's, that's doing Ted. What is it?
Starting point is 00:05:25 It's, um commercial radio awards. The antennas. The community TV awards. Yes, yeah, yeah. We're not we're taking this thing. Is it Australian? It is definitely not Australian. Why do you say it in international?
Starting point is 00:05:55 Okay, it will be American then. So the big ones right? The big ones. It's gonna be either the Grammys, the... What are the ones? Emmys. Emmys. What are the stage ones? The Tonys? Or the...
Starting point is 00:06:06 Big tree, the Oscars. Oscars. Boom! We... How did we... Are there... I think the Academy Awards, or the Oscars, as they are, more commonly known? I think, are probably the most famous...
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah. Award in the world of entertainment. Second only to the low yeas, but do go on. Okay, but do go on. Well, if we exclude Australian television, popularity based awards, then I think the economies are up there. And so I've just looked into the Academy Awards, how they came about, and how they happen
Starting point is 00:06:33 each year. Because this episode, I'm going to be honest, it's less story based than other ones we've done and more. Just chock full of facts. Ooh. It's a fact-based one. Because I'm going to tell you, as a trivia guy, a guy that writes trivia questions, the Academy Awards are like a dream topic because you can
Starting point is 00:06:51 ask so many questions about them because there's so many different individual facts about who won this, who won that, what movie was nominated for this kind of thing, and let's be honest, people like movies. So this is it, if you want to smash your next pub quiz, listen up to this episode of Dooggo On. This is it. So way back in 1927. A good year. Oh, what a great year. Mother best. I reckon my grandmother might have been born in that year. No, in 1926. Oh, close up. I can't think of any facts about it in 1927. I mean, so sorry. Well, did you know that in 1927, MGM co-founder and studio chief, Louis B. Mayer, he's the mayor in Metro, Goldwyn Mayor, which is MGM. It's the biggest movie studio in the world at the time, because there's three different people.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Metro, Goldwyn and Mayer came together. And this guy, Louis B. Mayer, spoke at a dinner about organizing a group to benefit the film industry. So he wanted to create an organization that would both mediate labor disputes between everyone and improve the industry's overall image. So it's funny to think 1927, not such a good year, in the end, because the Hollywood wanted to improve their image.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And at the same time time the academy probably just started so they could screw people over with labor disputes. So they also established that the membership into this organization would only be open to people involved in one of five branches of the industry. What do you think of the five actors? Actors. Actors. Yes, directors. Yes, there's number two. Producers. Yes, three or five.
Starting point is 00:08:29 There's three. Catering. Well, technicians. Oh, OK. Right. Catering technicians. Technical catering. Fifth, last. I was thinking like musical, like scoring.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Oh, yeah, it was. Was it not people with the right music, but people that write? Oh, the writers. That's right. Film. Film. That yeah it is. No it was not people with the right music but people that write. Oh the writers. That's right. That's so bad. That should be the three writers. So it's not a thought of writers. So it's a thanks. Yes. It's actors, directors, writers, technicians and producers. No laborers allowed. Get out of here laborers. Get out of here. You're just doing all the hard work. No one needs that. A week later, this is still in 1927, 36 invitees, including actors, directors, producers, writers, and a couple of lawyers, dined at the Los Angeles Ambassador Hotel to hear a proposal to found the international
Starting point is 00:09:21 Academy of Motion, Picture, Arts and Sciences. So these 36 people became the founders of the organization. Sorry, it did a party with 36 people. It's a pretty big, right? That's a pretty big. It's a long table. You'd have to make a reservation for that one. I did it.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I did it for 36. I have a feeling they may have booked out the entire establishment. I think so, yeah. Fair enough. Ooh. Ladida. This is the days before like gluten intolerances and stuff. So everyone was just eating the same meal.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Can tell you that. Is one of those 36 Oscar? No. There is no Oscar part of the 36. But we will get to Oscar and his or her. No, I'm just trying to make it more sensational. I thought it was. We'll just get the significance later on. So they found that the International Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences,
Starting point is 00:10:11 they later dropped the International Arts and Sciences that we know today. And then the next year, in 1928, had another dinner party. I don't know that. It was just suggested that the awards of Merritt be given out in 12 categories to people involved in making films. They wanted to give themselves a bit of a pat on the back. Just fine. Was one of the categories the best writer?
Starting point is 00:10:36 No, but the best caterer was definitely the best roast chicken. Then the next year in 1929, so a couple of years have gone past since the first idea came out. The first Academy Awards were held at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel. There were 270 guests, so the dinner party's got even bigger. Each paid $5 to go along, which these days it's about $70. It's still pretty damn cheap. It's got the Academy Awards. The ceremony was hosted by actor and then Academy President Douglas.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Billy Crystal. Billy Crystal. You can't get through talking about the Academy Awards. But I don't know why I'm so sorry. Everyone seemed. Is that a thing? That's a thing. Is there Billy Crystal references in this thing? Well, he has hosted the second most amount of Academy Awards. Well, we're going to get to that.ty. It would be nice. Well we're gonna get the most. How do we gonna get to that? I can just tell you now. I reckon it is. Is it an American comedian? Is it Jo. Actually, an English born but very famous American comedian. Was it in recent times? It was a guy's famous for his work entertaining American troops. Oh, the golf club. Yeah. Uh, Bob. Bob Hope.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Bob Hope, that's right. Right. He's hosted 19. Bob Zell, 19. Wow, 19. 19. Crazy. So that would have been before Billy's day.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Billy's day. And I think Billy's done about nine. So also, that's a lot, right? That's a lot. But considering he's seconds, and Bob Hope did 19, and that's 10 more than Billy's time. That's a lot. That's crazy. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:05 They kind of rotate it now. No one's really... No one gets like a 10 year of like five years of row right in the end, lately anyway. But Billy Crystal did it again, like in 2012 or something, so he's still, like, even getting back every now and then to have another go. So we could get there.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Could get to the 19th. How do I believe it in? The first ever academy was hosted by Douglas Fairbanks. It was a swashbuckling actor of the time. And the weirdest part about the first one is that the winners were announced three months earlier. What? So there was like a notice board, like, yes,
Starting point is 00:12:38 you have won the first ever Academy Award. It does kind of ruin the surprise. Yeah. A little bit of the fun out of it. And was this, did you say it's 1928? It's 1929. Yeah, because they had the idea in 1928. They did a little bit of it. So it took a bit of time to put it together.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Sure, it does. 15 awards were given out, honoring film industries, people's work, over the previous two years. So these days it's over one calendar year, two years. And in total, the ceremony ran for 15 minutes. What? That was it. So we think these days that people's speeches get cut off
Starting point is 00:13:11 quickly. Imagine that. You'd be like, I'd like to thank the Anderov music players. How many of you didn't even do speech in that? I don't think so. So $5 seemed pretty cheap. But $5 for a 15 minute gig back in 1929 was probably pretty expensive.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah. And the following year, the winners weren't announced publicly before hand, so they decided that that was a bit of a strange idea. That they were giving three months as a while though. I feel like you might almost forget again. Yeah, so did I win that? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Three months. That's what a weird decision. And also the awards don't even, didn't even exist yet. So would you even be that excited? Like you look at the nice. You see it like published in the newspaper, when are the Academy of Immersion Picture Arts and Sciences Entertainment Award? You'd be like, what's that? Yeah. It's still be like, oh, that's nice, I guess.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah. It's not that big a deal. Good on your Douglas Fairbanks. But anyway, the following year they didn't announce it publicly, but for a long time, they were given to newspapers at 11 p.m. on the night before the awards, so they could other night of the awards, so they could publish them in the newspapers the next day. And this continued until 1940 when the Los Angeles Times
Starting point is 00:14:20 published the list before the ceremony, so they got a little bit earlier, and they threw it out there, and that ruined the surprise completely. Now I'm surprised that it took 10 years for journalists to break that rule. And from then on the awards were kept secret as they are today and announced from within a sealed envelope. How does the winner get in there? You know like it's a sealed envelope but someone has to ride it at some point. Yeah, I'm wondering how many people actually know. They're pretty discreet about that kind of information.
Starting point is 00:14:51 So someone has a blindfold on, gets a pen in their hand and someone whispers it in their ear and they ride it, for some reason they got a blindfold. Yeah, I don't need to be blindfolded. And then they knock them out. So one by one, it takes a lot of people and a lot of concussions to get the secrecy. It was amazing just cutting out letters from the newspaper like a sort of serial killer style note. Like a reds note. So like I'm in charge of S's, Jess does all the piece.
Starting point is 00:15:24 You're told how many, like this one person that knows them all, you're like, all right, just we're going to need four P's this year. Matt, five days from you and one X. Everyone's like, oh, Zina, warrior princess is one. Just the one. Just the one. Just the one. So the awards continued on, they were adding awards to the initial ones, they're adding
Starting point is 00:15:43 awards for costume, best documentary, best foreign language film, that kind of stuff. The ceremony was first televised across the US and Canada in the 50s, in 1953. The first televised in colour in 1966, and first broadcast internationally in 1969. So same year as the moon landing, and the telecast now reaches over 200 countries. Two interesting times it was postponed, was 1968. The Oscars were postponed for two days out of respect for Martin Luther King, Jr. who had been assassinated a few days before the scheduled ceremony. A lot of respects for him.
Starting point is 00:16:18 The awards were postponed again in 1981. This time for 24 hours because of the assassination attempt on president Ronald Reagan. Wow. Yeah, obviously Also an actor and a famous actor in his day as well. So that's why I think they decided to postpone the award but the most interesting thing for me was so I Look at the articles about who's one what and I write questions about that kind of stuff But I had no idea how the awards are actually chosen. Oh, wasn't sure if it was like a TV week, Gold Logi style thing where people vote, or if it's one overlord, do you guys have any ideas?
Starting point is 00:16:52 I think it's, I'm pretty sure it's all the members of the academy, it's just like a big group of. That's right. Well, they always thank the academy. Yeah. They think the academy? Well, it turns out it is the academy. I know they all just act, is it just everyone just everyone who's just like all the actors and stuff? Well do you want to know there are well you've got what I have about I stop guessing you just tell me. I will tell you. Wow what an I stop wasting everyone. Let me answer your questions with some pre-researched information. All right. So the Academy as you you are both correct they choose the award and guess how many members of the Academy there are
Starting point is 00:17:29 I can I've it's all the actors and writers and if that's what it is which Dave hasn't Confirmed yet, but I'd say if that's the case maybe 500 500 from Matt. I would say more But it'll be a certain level, right? Yeah, I don't know. Is it invitation only? Do you just apply online and pay your registration fee? You go into the green card lottery. Yeah. Past winners only?
Starting point is 00:17:52 Maybe. Oh, God. But then you just keep getting more and more. Or you just keep giving yourselves the awards. Is it higher or lower than 500? Higher than 500. I was going to say 1000. Really?
Starting point is 00:18:03 1000? It is 6000 thousand Six thousand people according to a February 2012 study conducted conducted by the Los Angeles Times which sampled five thousand of its six thousand members So most of the most of the members the academy is made up of 94% white people it's 84% white people. It's 77% male and 86% aged 50 years or older. Oh my god. The median age of an academy member is 62 years old. So it's pretty much our dad's voting for the Academy Awards every year.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And then we wonder why there isn't a whole lot of cultural diversity amongst winners. I know. It's just crazy. Because things like popular entertainment, like pop culture stuff, that is the thing of the youth, right? Yeah, absolutely. And it's probably something similar with the Grammys and stuff, because they're always people like Paul McCartney seems to win an award every year still for his new releases.
Starting point is 00:19:01 It's just people being nostalgic, but so it's quite strange that that's not a more diverse group who are picking such an important one. I know. How do you become a member of the Academy? Well, so it's a lot of, if you are a former winner, you're invited to join the Academy. And I think if you are also high up in the film industry, you can also be one. You're invited, so like?
Starting point is 00:19:21 Everyone gets to vote. These 6,000 people get to vote on who gets the Academy Awards at awards, but I don't think it's not a compulsory vote like here in Australia. You're not going to be centifying in the mail or get a jail for not turning up. So it's 6000 people voting, but there are different categories. So to start off with, the first stage is narrowing, narrowing down the thousands of movies that get released each year to five nominees for each category. The exception here is Best Picture, which since 2009 has gone from five nominees to ten nominees. So this year, for example, there were ten films nominated for the Academy Award for Best Picture. And before we get into how films are voted upon, to be even considered, you've got to take a lot of boxes. So the film has to be more than 14 minutes long
Starting point is 00:20:06 unless it's in the short film category, 40 minutes. That doesn't seem very long, does it? Well, I'm disappointed if I go to the movies and it says run time 90 minutes. I'm like, well, it's paid $20 for an hour and a half. I could go see the Titanic or something over here for three and a half hours. No rings.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Come on. I'm happy. It's sad that most directs to DVD, Steven Seagull, movies even go for 85 minutes. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don, men in black was pretty good. I think we should really consider it. Like it has to be last year.
Starting point is 00:20:48 You get your one year and then you miss it out. And what counts as a movie theater? Yeah, I was gonna say. You've got a big studio out the back here with a projector. No, no, no. Well, like what about long play in North Carolina? I'm afraid.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Oh. Because it must have played in an LA County theater for paid admission for seven consecutive days. So all Stevens and Garfield films are suddenly out. So seven, seven days in a row. And I think it would suck if you, if you scheduled in your seven days and then there was some sort of natural disaster or something that presented the, like prevented people getting into the cinema on the seven days, something that's all that. Our producers must submit an official screen credits online form before the deadline and if it's not submitted before the deadline it'll be ineligible for Academy Awards in any year.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Is there a fee for that? I do not believe that there is a fee. It seems though I always find that funny that you have to nominate yourself for awards. It is funny to think that it's probably someone's job to... There's massive critically acclaimed films, so on. Still has to go online and fill out like a Google dog. Why my film should be chosen for the Academy Award for Best Editing? The guy, Matt Stewart, worked really, really hard. He was in the studio for like seven days, every week,
Starting point is 00:22:07 which is every day. You see that bit, it was like day, and then the second later was night, that was all editing, man. Wow, we didn't even use like, there's pre-determined star-wipe crosses on Final Cut. We invented a few transitions. It was great editing. Then in late December of each year, ballots and
Starting point is 00:22:26 copies of the list of eligible releases are mailed out to our 6,000 active Academy Award members. And for most categories, members from each of the branches vote to determine the nominees only in their own respective field. For example, only directors vote for best director, writers vote for best street writing, actors for acting, best boys on who are the actual best boy in the film industry. You're the best boy here, Dave. You're a crazy crow lady. You're a beady weedy. He can't do it Kenny. Speedo Widow. Oh, you fucked up your own name. Now an Academy member can select five nominees per category.
Starting point is 00:23:11 So ranked in order from one to five, it's the preference. So one vote, bird man, two votes, two story three. Yeah, imagine if they just read them out, brown low metal style. Six thousand. Six thousand other. Five votes. Six thousand, other. Yeah, I vote. Because some would be very short, because obviously there'd be less costume people
Starting point is 00:23:31 than there would be actors. Yeah. But there would be, and then it gets to the final one, they have to read out all six thousand people that voted for the main category. I would love that. Is there a record,
Starting point is 00:23:43 like public record of the votes, or is that all? No, it's all kept in secret. That's right. I'd love to see who got one vote from the 6,000. Oh, that's an idea. There will be some movies that you'd just never expect. There would be a spreadsheet out there
Starting point is 00:23:56 reckon that just you could hit like rank by vote. There'd be someone at the bottom. Steven's a girl. Steven's a girl. Steven's a girl. Under siege to one vote. And it's from Steven Seagal. Yeah, he's got him.
Starting point is 00:24:11 He voted himself. He's got in there. There are some exceptions in the case of certain categories, like foreign film, best documentary, best animated feature film, movies selected by special screening committees, made up of members from all branches. Foreign film nominees are selected from a list of films submitted by foreign nations and what I found really interesting about this is every foreign country can only submit one film per year. So like everyone at Thailand is to get together and be like, all right, what was the best
Starting point is 00:24:40 time film this year? What's what's their best shot at winning? Wow! So they get all these movies and every other country gets won? That's right, it's like the best Hindi film or the best... But if you speak English, you can be in any of the other categories. Can you still be in best picture if you're a foreign language film? Yes, and some things have been nominated for Best Picture and being in another language. Yeah. Do we, are we a foreign film?
Starting point is 00:25:08 Like do we submit movies for foreign films? I think it might be in a language other than English. Right, probably. I know, the best Australian film of the year. Yeah. I think that would be red dog every year. When I this year, it's a different dog. Blue dog. Bluey. There's a biggest foreign movie this year it's a different dog. Blue dog.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Bluey. There's a biggest try movie now that's about a dog again. I saw that. It looks like a white dog on the photo. Yeah, we do dog movies with oddball. Oddball in brackets, what dog? What would happen right? If a foreign language nation, like, when obviously not far into themselves but far into a language to America like
Starting point is 00:25:46 Thailand say do a silent film or categories that in do you have that rindanian notes no well the artist was a silent film and that won the Academy Award for Best Picture so that took it out that's interesting but I wasn't the question that wasn't the question. That wasn't the question. Thanks for squeezing in a fact. LAUGHTER Love that just rolled his eyes so well. He just does so many visual gags. No, your face needs to have a live web stream. Just your face.
Starting point is 00:26:16 No one needs to see the crow or skin you pull. Yeah, because we're expressive in our voices. That's right. Expression! So the 6000 members. What do you mean, Jeff? What do you mean by that? Now, 6000 members have two weeks to submit their nominees.
Starting point is 00:26:32 So they can think about it. They get a bit of time. And if you're like, you shouldn't have seen that film, better go. Oh, yeah. Stream that on Netflix. And once the ballots are all in, the Accounting Firm price waterhouse coopers, which is the biggest accounting firm in the entire world, another fact for you, they work out who gets the most votes and they've been tied
Starting point is 00:26:51 to the Academy for decades, so it's been their job to work it out, which is a pretty exciting job if you're a pretty boring accountant. Yeah, like it's been the one time of the year they get to do something interesting. Well, I mean, it sounds interesting, but at the end of the day, and still numbers in a spreadsheet, it's just that it at the end of the day, I still remember it's still numbers and a spreadsheet that says, bird man instead of tax. Yeah. That's pretty much it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Oh, God. What is it, that life? So a week or so later, the Academy males final ballots out to all the Academy members. So it's like, all right, we've got our top five has been selected. You get to vote again. So it's pretty tedious.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You have to vote twice. Hey, sorry. For a, can I, do you mind if I. You have to vote twice. Sorry, can I... You might have been dropped again. I was just wondering, and I've forgotten the question, so I'm just talking a little bit now as my brain tries to catch up with me. Yes, that was it. Here it is. Do all the Academy members, they have to watch all the eligible films? It's not like a compulsory thing, but they do put on free screenings that you can go and see.
Starting point is 00:27:48 So you can potentially just watch your mates films, and yeah, that was the best one. Yeah, well, because I think there's, I mean, like I said, like thousands of films are submitted for you. So the bigger the film, the more likely it is to win. Yeah, because then they would have. So the best film may not have been seen.
Starting point is 00:28:02 But having said that, I'm pretty sure that like any sort of industry, there's buzz around certain films like, hey, did you see? Like for example, a film nominated last year, or for the Academy Awards this year, like Whiplash would have only made like 20 million dollars at the box office, which is not very much. It could move. Yeah, in comparison to Transformers 5,
Starting point is 00:28:21 which made a billion dollars. Yeah. But at the same time, Transformers didn't get in. So I think people do, obviously they talk. I don't even notice at the time, that's a stunning emission. Isn't it? Transformers 5, it's like six, I don't even know. Can't hear that.
Starting point is 00:28:36 So then they have another two weeks to return the ballots. You can drive in the price of what a house cooper has to call up, like, Haynecoll Kidman, just waiting on that ballot. If you wouldn't mind. If you wouldn't just send it in. And these times, fine. Do you have a fax? We sell a fax.
Starting point is 00:28:52 You may. I think you're kidding yourself there. It wouldn't be, hello Nicole Kidman would be, hello Nicole Kidman's assistance. Yeah, thanks. Can you just get Nicole? And let's be honest. Often the assistant is probably the one
Starting point is 00:29:03 who's filling out the balloters anyway. That's me. And then press what house coopers then tabulates, which is a great word, the votes in absolute secrecy and then seals the results. So they chuck them in those envelopes. That's where the blind folding concussion is. That's right. At this stage, it looks like only accountants know.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Which is pretty awesome. I wonder how many accountants? It's a two big a job for one guy to do, but there wouldn't be hundreds of them. You know, there'd be like a small little group. Like a little board room. I think they have like a little jury room where they sort of, they have to stay in a hotel and then they're allowed overnight while they deliberate, not that they're voting themselves
Starting point is 00:29:37 but they, so they don't tell friends, you're not allowed to talk about the awards. Yeah, they have a lot of them. Because there is a lot of money. There is a lot of cash on the line with gambling. Yeah, absolutely. People do bet on the awards. And it'd be like the one time in their sad, miserable lives. I would just like to say that I respect and love all the countenance, but please go on. No, this is my opinion only. But the early light in this, again, sad, miserable lives, where they get to go home and their
Starting point is 00:30:06 wife say, how's your day honey? And he has to be like, can't talk about it. That's exciting, you know? Do you have an account in Jess? No. I look forward to that day when they're saving you or? Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And actually one of my oldest friends works for PricewaterhouseCoopers as well So oh really yeah, you're oldest friend Jonathan Cooper. Yeah, do you know? Is he a thousand years old? Wow, that is an old friend. No, no, I can't it's a cool. We need them I just liked you know I'm jealous in a way because they're doing stuff with their lives and I'm that's right They're not they're not backtracking, this is way less fun. Yeah, okay, I hate them, hate them all. Well, I respect the accounts because they're doing...
Starting point is 00:30:51 It sounds like a pretty fair process. Check out this. Suck up over you. And yeah, Dave, it sounds like a fair and kind of cool process for one event and then the rest of the year they just do best statements. No, I'm not trying to talk about a account and say, I'm trying to posit the theory that, all right, the Academy Awards, it sounds pretty fair and just system
Starting point is 00:31:09 where everyone, these 6,000 people are voting, despite the fact that they are like 90% male, also 50. But that sounds pretty fair, right? Yeah. Well, film companies will spend up to, that's right, this is the story, Anglo is going for. The bud. It sounds fair, but film companies will spend up to, that's right, this is the story, Angle I was going for. The butt. It sounds fair, but film companies will spend up to several million dollars
Starting point is 00:31:28 trying to get Academy members votes. So they take out ads in industry magazines. They organize private screenings of films and they get people to come along. So it's not as clear-cut as you would think. Yeah, I was thinking that before, because when you were saying like there's a bit of buzz around and they're people in the industry, you know that the directors of the films that have nominated would sort of be like, hey, remember that time You know maybe you car broke down, okay? Yeah, you'll remember I wrote down and I came around with my limo when you got in the back of my limo when I
Starting point is 00:31:57 I shared my champagne. We do remember it was a great time and then we laughed at all the poor people in the world Yeah, do you remember that? Oh, how we laughed. So how about that little gold statue that everyone gets? Well, it is officially called the Academy Award of Merit. That's what all the little statue guys are called. Merit, that's what people give you when you try hard. And Merit award. Oh, they did.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Oh, that's true. Yeah, fair enough. They did try hard. So that little guy is made of gold-plated Britanium. Britanium. Britanium. On a black metal base, it is 34 centimeters tall, or 13.5 inches, and weighs 3.85 kilos.
Starting point is 00:32:38 They're individually numbered, electro-plated in copper, nickel silver, and then 24-karat gold. So long story short, you could probably beat someone to death with it. Wow. Have you had that earlier? Challenge accepted. Retanium. Is that on the periodic table? Retanium. I don't think it is.
Starting point is 00:32:54 They have no zezings. See, he writes trivia questions about the periodic table periodically. Well, no, there's so many weird ones at home. We're going to look it up. I don't even know. So, Britannia is a metal, so it's 92% tin, 6% antimony, which is on the other periodic table. And 2% copper, so there you go. It's an alloy made of several things put together. Antimony, of course, being the opposite of promony. I couldn't even...
Starting point is 00:33:21 Take a bow, Miss Persia. I laughed at my own joke Sorry Is Primo only a thing? No See that would have worked Okay, he'd look But if you still get it
Starting point is 00:33:36 It's still pretty funny It's still coming to think of So the gold, they're pretty expensive stuff right But in support of the American war effort in World War II, the statuettes were made of plaster, and then you could trade them in for a gold one after the war. That's smart. Smart play.
Starting point is 00:33:53 The winner gets their name engraved on it. So they used to have to give them back at the end of the night to get their name put on it. But these days, they have the option of getting them engraved on the night. So you win it. Matt Damon gets his award, then he takes it backstage, these days they have the option of getting them engraved on the night. So you win it, Matt Damon gets his award, then he takes it backstage and then someone writes Matt Damon on it.
Starting point is 00:34:10 So imagine if they miss Spelt, you know. They're not even pre engraved. No, because then people would be walking past them. Yeah, it would not. Statues and go, well, looks like Ben Affleck's going to win once a night. Good on him. What world is this that you live in? Ben Affleck's winning a Matt Damon? Do they actually win awards? Yes. That's one will be the one to really yes twice economy. Well, that's good I'm at a famous pop pop stars really one. I mean normally he's not in Bardot Reference to a great two thousand pop group from Australia my goodness Which Ben Affleck Charlie would have been if he'd audition so few monks exactly A reference to a great 2000s pop group from Australia, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Which better, if I can totally would have added a few auditions. So a few monks. Exactly. Oh, stop talking about it, because I'm going to do a entire report about them next week. Great. So this statue for the Academy was depicts a knight. Love that, a knight rendered it an art deco style holding a crusader's sword. Didn't know it was holding a sword?
Starting point is 00:35:04 No. Standing on a real film film, and that that reel has five spokes, each representing the original branches of the Academy. So there's a spoke for actors, writers, directors, producers, and technicians. What are the swords in the lower? The locator is the lawyers, the best boys, did not get. Key grips. No, stuff.
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Starting point is 00:37:22 You hear me ask like 30 seconds ago what why do you know what the sword symbolizes? I just a powerful Art Deco symbol. He's so grateful for your information. Art Deco being a very popular style of the 1920s when it was conceived. Right. Love Art Deco. Matt, I can hear you asking why is it called Oscar?
Starting point is 00:37:40 Well, relax, because I will reveal all. Well, I say reveal all, but the origin story is very disputed. I've kind of lost interest actually so you can move on if you like. Yes I'm going to this is for you. Thanks Dave. A biography of Betty Davis claims that she claim that she named the Oscar after her first husband who was a band leader, Harmon Oscar Nilsen. Davis? Harmon Awards not as good. Mr. I know, the Oscar sounds much better than, yeah, than the Harman or the Nelson. The Nelson's, Nelson's pretty good. In his career he won 111 Nelson.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Did he look a bit like the statue or? Well, this was just in her biography, but Betty Davis is big ties to the Oscar. She also became the first female president of the Academy. And also the shortest-lived president after resigning after two months. So thank you for your service, Betty. Another claimed origin is that the Academy's executive secretary, Margaret Herrick, first saw the... Well, hang on, at that time when she quit,
Starting point is 00:38:41 the headline the next day was, Betty Davis eyes off a different job. I like how I pretty much read it in entire paragraph and then he made the joke. My brain was ticking over very slowly but it was worth it. I think you're all agreed. Yeah. You're free to edit that out as well. No, no, no, no, keep that in. Some of Matt's best comedy. No, that was absolutely golden. that in. Some of Matt's best comedy. No, that was absolutely golden. Another claimed origin story for the Oscars,
Starting point is 00:39:09 the Academy's executive secretary, Margaret Herrick, first saw the award in 1931, and made reference to the statuettes reminding her of her Uncle Oscar, which was a nickname for her cousin Oscar Pia, so it wasn't even her uncle, it was her cousin. What? She called her cousin Uncle Oscar. It's very, very strange.
Starting point is 00:39:29 But the Academy officially dubbed it the Oscar in 1939. So it's very disputed, but there's also reference to Walt Disney calling it Oscar in the early 30s. It's confusing. So Matt, I hope that that answered your question. It doesn't at all so there's no answer So there they don't really know there's a few ideas but nobody kids one of those things What I love it is like yeah, I
Starting point is 00:39:53 Name the Oscars after my husband at the times middle name. Yeah, that sounds like a thing that definitely didn't happen Yeah, it was a bit of a shame. No, but I put it out of here I'm fairly sure that it wasn't it sure that it wasn't an autobiography though. It was a biography, so this is someone else riding about her, possibly making up. Now I want to know where the name, the Logis comes from. Oh, that's John Logis. John Logis bed. That's right.
Starting point is 00:40:19 He invented the television. Television. Oh, OK, that makes perfect sense. OK, great. It's a horrible name, but yes. It's not great, but um... But they weren't going to call them the John Awards though, because that means toilet overseas, that's why. And but Logie, it's so close to what Logie or... Yeah. Logie? It's an ugly word. It's not a great set. What's it going to be named after? Betty Davis is a second husband, John Loki, he's not a driver.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I don't know. This biography is about her claim. All kinds of stuff, apparently. I bet they do. All right, so how about selling a statue? So since 1950, the Oscar statue themselves have been awarded with the legal requirement that neither the statue et's winners nor their heirs
Starting point is 00:41:03 may sell it without first offering to sell it back to the academy for one dollar. Great rule. So if the winner refuses this clause then they forfeit the win. But there were a bunch of statues given out before 1950, right? So in 2011, Orson Wells, 1941 Oscar for Citizen Kane, which was a Order for Best Rigial Screenplay, was put up for auction after his heirs won a court decision contending that Wells won the award before the $1 agreement
Starting point is 00:41:30 and that they're allowed to do whatever they like with it. So they decided not to return it to the academy and they sold it for $861,000 US dollars. Oh my God. So a lot of money. That's insane. A couple of other people have been able to sell their Oscars, but obviously they're even rarer than they would be because they have to be before 1950.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Michael Jackson bought the best picture Oscar for Gone with the Wind for $1.5 million in 19. Which is pocket money for you. I do not know. He was just crazy about himself. They're a couple of huge awards as well. Like that's, both of those films are still always topping greatest of all time with Stuart.
Starting point is 00:42:10 So the point, yeah, that's right. So they're two massive, massive things. So they're trying to, I'm trying to understand like why they would do it like that. So that I understand they don't want people to sell them. That's fine, but you've got to offer to sell it back for a long time. I mean that no one's ever going to do it because it's like, well, you can't because if you offer to sell it back, they'll say, oh, you're going to sell it great, we'll
Starting point is 00:42:31 have it back for a dollar. A dollar. And you selling it to it. They're basically just saying you can't sell it, but they must have been a way that they could just say you can't sell it at all. Yeah, so it's just illegal clause. Remember those two lawyers at the start doing pretty well. Fascinating. Two-time best director winner Stephen Spielberg, speaking of Betty Davis. Oh, I know the name. Yeah. He bought a big name. I've heard of him. More is to... Do you know what he wants? Saving Private Ryan. No, I don't know. Have a hint of that. Got a bit of a different one.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Matt Dane. And Shins List. Oh, yeah, great. He bought independent films. Betty Davis, well, he bought very small independent films. Betty Dave, well, they are very small independent films. He bought Betty Davis's 1938 best actress statue for her film, Errol and Jezebel, then returned it to the Academy. So he didn't want some collector having it. Oh, that's cool. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I'm weird, I guess, but cool. I don't know how I feel about it. I don't have an opinion. I'm sorry. Extremely wealthy magician David Copperfield has kept the best director statue at a water-to a water to Michael Curtis for Casablanca and he paid nearly a quarter of a million dollars for it in 2003. So these are all very famous all owned by very wealthy people. In 1992 Harold Russell became the only actor
Starting point is 00:43:40 to ever sell a statue when he sold his 1946 award for best supporting actor in the film The Best Years of Our Lives. He sold the Oscar to help pay medical bills for his sick wife and it was controversial at the time that he sold it, which I think is completely fine. Yeah, seriously. I think it's sad that he had to sell his Oscar to try and... Well he pretty much said, hey I've still got the memories. I want to keep my life alive. I don't need this little gold statue.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I can get a lot of money for it. He's still an Oscar winner. He's still on the list. I agree that's sad that he had to, but it's not sad that he did it. No, I don't know. I think it's great that he was able to sell something. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Did she pull through? Well, I mean, I think they're both very very old now So a lot of it sub playing with my emotions. I'm so sorry Some people have lost their Oscars too. Oh, no 2002 will be Goldberg classic will be for time Academy Ward host She's the most the lady. She has a she's won an Academy Award. Oh, yes She's won an E got you know what that is yes when you win an Emmy a Grammy. She has a, she's won an Academy Award. Oh yes, she's won an E-GOTS. Do you know what that is? Yes. When you win an Emmy, a Grammy, an Oscar, and a Tony. And a Tony, she's done it.
Starting point is 00:44:49 See, um, what? All, uh... Whoopie Goldberg. Yeah. Yeah, she's amazing. Very talented. Was it for the one way she played basketball with a dog? Ha!
Starting point is 00:44:59 I know, as, um, she won a... Is that a real movie? She won her Best Supporting Actress for Ghosts. Oh yeah, that was a good support. Jeffrey Rush jokes that he doesn't have a Grammy but he has the other. So he has a toe. Very good, Jeffrey Rush.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Good on you. And he's like, oh, it sounds better than he got. Yeah, I don't know. I won't be any Grammy stuff. I know that Wuppie won her Best Supporting Actress for Ghosts because in 2002, she sent it back to the Academy to have it cleaned and detailed because apparently you can do that. And the Academy then sent out the Oscar to accompany in Chicago that manufactures the trophies. And when it arrived back the package, so when it arrived for cleaning,
Starting point is 00:45:42 the package was empty and it appeared that someone at open the box moved the oscar than neatly sealed it back up and sent it on its way it was later found in a trash can at an airport in Ontario the oscar was returned to the academy who gave it back to Wolpy without cleaning it at all who said it will never leave my house again the perfect crime I know like why still at the chuck it out they were obviously very cleaning it at all who said it will never leave my house again. The perfect crime. I know. Like why steal it then chuck it out.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Well they were obviously very busted or something. Wasn't it the airport face of the metal detector? Shit, I forgot about the fucking metal detector. So they just throw it out. After all that effort. It feels like they'd go, oh this is cool. You got wippy-goalbergs, Oscar. Yeah, I'm a maid of hers.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I'm just taking it back to her. No, I'm pretty, I'm. Oh great. I'll say hi to her for me. Well, do you? Well, yeah Well, you get their phone out pretend. What's that whoopee? Yep, I'll say hi back Yeah, I'm like, can I talk to a bee no? No, whoopee's gone. She's very important. She's won a lot of awards She's got an ego you fuck head She doesn't think you could just talk to ego winners. Oh my god. Who do you think you are? You could talk to Jeffrey Rosh. She's only a tow. Oh my god no. So you want an award you get up there to thank your people. How long do you think you have to talk? 30 seconds. 30? Oh it's good. I reckon it depends.
Starting point is 00:47:01 I reckon on the big ones they give you more. I reckon it's 15 for small ones and a minute for big ones. That is, well you are partial credit there Matt for saying that it depends. These days on average they say you're supposed to get 45 seconds. 45, that's it, then they play you off. And Bill Mechanic, who's organizer of the awards, said they put in speech limits to get rid of the single most hated thing on the show, his words, which was overly long and embarrassing displays of emotion. Which for me isn't that the whole show? I like a funny speech more than an emotional one. An emotional, yes.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I like a funny speech. Funny is good. Emotional is good. What's boring is a list of people. Yes, like producers and things you've never heard of. You've seen every single person you've ever met. I mean, which I understand because, you know, no person gets up there and wins a huge award without the help and support of a lot of people, so fair enough, but you can thank them personally.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Yeah, same for Neymar the next day. Yeah, yeah. With you holding the statue, this one's for you. Give them a call. But yeah, go the top few people like yeah, mom, dad, husband, wife, whatever. My favorite speech was when, as the Loughies was when Sean McCullough just read out an Academy award winning speech by Lawrence Salivier from the from my 50 years earlier. And impersonation was so good. Two of my favorite things that one was Robert Danny Jr. who thanked his wife for telling him not to bother to write a speech because he wasn't going to win anyway and then he did win. So he's like, thanks honey. And then
Starting point is 00:48:40 my other one is when Hamish Blake won the gold like he and he like looked at the bottom of it and went Huh not for individual sale that's interesting It also says you have to thank a dado so Which one did he choose I think Andrew yeah good choice you know a lucky Nack I'm a bit of a Cameron man Cameron's great. Yeah, he's the one on smoother fam. I've nothing It's lucky either. Oh the weather outside is toasty. Why don't you keep listening to the sounds of my voice and some soft little music? I honestly turned on to Smooth Air Fam once in driving and he was on and he said, oh, it's
Starting point is 00:49:17 been a long hard day, hasn't it? Why don't you put yourself a nice warm bath? Slide in. Get the bubbles going and Listen to this next smooth class and did you did you do that? No, I was in the car otherwise I definitely would have I couldn't believe it was like this is this feels like a parody of it So yeah, that sounds like a parody my favorite thing would be for the person in the studio pressing the buttons Was played that speech and they're accidentally put on like something non-stop like slipping to the
Starting point is 00:49:48 bus and taking it up there or if it's just like and listen to this soft soft music and then it's like like sandstone sounds like something or something that would be so great so the orchestra who play music people off the play the speech they do it all live. So that's not someone that's on an iPod. But they are playing in a studio one mile away from the ceremony. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And they sit there and watch on four screens in this big studio, and it's sent by these fiber optic cables. So people in the audience can hear it through speakers. That's so weird. And then we hear it at home. But yeah, so they're watching. And people blame the conductor. here at through speakers. That's so weird. And then we hear it at home. But yeah, so they're watching and
Starting point is 00:50:31 people blame the conductor, like I've seen people online bitching about the conductor, but it's actually up to the directors of the ceremony as to when they start playing off the winners. So one thing that the conductor does get to do though is they get to name the song that they play that they play them off. In 2012, this is the the best one I found conductor Bill Ross named it to the too long song too long song nail the title that's so good that's amazing I would love to be in like the with the director I think I've seen this video it wasn't from the Oscars I think it might have been from the Tony's because it was one of the ones that Neil Patrick Harris hosted and do you host our Tony's oh yes I nearly hosted the Oscars this year's was the Oscars I don't remember nowys because it was one of the ones that Neil Patrick Harris hosted. And, um, did he host our Tonys? Oh, yes, I nearly hosted the Oscars this year as well.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Maybe it was the Oscars, I don't remember now. Um, I think it was actually Tonys, but it was a camera inside the, um, control room, and it was the director yelling like the camera numbers, so they would change, like, different angles and stuff, and it was amazing because it was like this big dance, and I'm a big co-grafts, and he's just standing there like screaming numbers, and you can see it all changing, it was amazing because it was like this big dance and a big co-guffs and he's just standing there like screaming numbers and you can see it all changing it was amazing it was so cool That is so awesome. It would be an incredible job It'd be so stressful so stressful You'd be like play the song!
Starting point is 00:51:34 Imagine the adrenaline too Do you think there's any real need for it to be live? Can you even tell? The live just push it. Why not just push it? And why do they have to be? I think it's so dumb The live music. The live music. Push it. Why not just push it. And why do they have to be? I think it's probably more of a tradition thing. Like I imagine it would have been live with a real orchestra pit back in the day. I think the music seems harsh.
Starting point is 00:51:55 And I thought that until I read how they did it in 1956. Wow, wow, wow. Well, shut down. Well, pretty much Dorothy Malone,, no it's not pretty much, but one best supporting actress and her speech went on for over five minutes. No, it's too long. And nothing they could do could get her off. So finally Jerry Lewis rushed out and took out his pocket watch and just swung it in front
Starting point is 00:52:18 of her face until she stopped and then probably died of embarrassment. That is pretty rough. No, but really, come on. Five minutes is a bit much. My favorite moment of this year's Academy Awards was Polish Director Paul Kowski, Fort the Law, and he won when his Oscar speech for Best Foreign Language Film went long and the music started playing off and he goes, okay, okay, wrap up, but he doesn't wrap up and keeps talking for so long that the music stops. He beat the music and then the crowd realized
Starting point is 00:52:49 that they started applauding so they were cheering that he beat the music and then he went on for another 15 seconds before the music came in again and I'll say it was actually a very very nice speech dedicated to his family. Again, you live with your family, just thank him. I'm fairly sure one of them had died. Oh god, why would you say that just think I'm I fairly sure one of them had died though. Oh God Why would you say that? No monster? You can't say that to them in person, but you can obviously through the Academy Awards reach them That beacon of heaven. Yeah, that is the Academy Awards. There are people like you were saying that the exceptions that don't get played off Colin Firth Spoke for three minutes when he won the Academy Award for Best
Starting point is 00:53:25 Actor for the King's Speech. But he's pretty charismatic. Yeah, so and he was doing Nicole Kidman spoke for two minutes and twenty seconds. Wait, no, I'm thinking Colin Farrell. No, Colin Farrell is the Irish one. Colin Firth is the English one. Mr Darcy. I don't even know I'm thinking of a combination of the two. The King's speech. What a great guy that would be. Imagine the best bits. The best bits of Farrell and Firth.
Starting point is 00:53:51 The Colondes. I think I'd just speak Firth. Nicole Kidman's both for two minutes and 20 seconds. She won the Academy Award for Best Actors. He's two months for Kidman. All right, I've got two last things that they want to go in on. Was it the Academy Awards that had that lady do that famous? They love me, they really love me, speech.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah, who said that? That was... Is it Sally Field? Yes, Sally Field. Oh my god, it is. Sally Field? Sally Field, that I mean, for winning for... The flying nun.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Places in the house. And so that was an Academy Awarding? Yes, that's an Oscar, that's right. And that gets parodyed all the time, or used to anyway. What was the point of that? Was she kidding or was she serious? No, she was being serious. That was why I got That's the best it was just like super sincere and in a speech about that's so I've a towel I understand it anyway, I might be wrong. Dave, do you go on? You have two points to make. I just wanted to talk about the other thing
Starting point is 00:54:49 that I really enjoyed being brought up this year at the Academy Awards was seat fillers. Have you heard about seat fillers? Which is Neil Patrick Harris, the host board attention to them and sort of made fun of them that this year's 2015 awards, he sort of called them at in front of the crowd. And it's not something exclusive to the Oscars either.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Theaters around the world employ fillers for televised events so that when the camera captures an audience shot, if Angelina Jolie's gone to the bathroom, her seat makes a Brad Pitt, it's got someone sitting in it. And I really wanted to look into this and not many people wanted to write about the experience, but according to a report from the AV club, you know, only get in to be a seat filler if you have a relative working for the academy or if you work for PricewaterhouseCoopers, accountants again, raising the roof. And then they sign non-disclosure agreements saying they won't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:55:43 So this AV club report was an anonymous person. And I also read that some people said that they were warned that if they spoke to any famous people, their relative in the academy could be fired. Fired. Frommokanon. Frommokanon. Frommokanon. Before being bated by that sword from the giant Oscar statue. from a cannon
Starting point is 00:56:08 Before being battered by that sword from the giant Oscar statue That's the other reason I would do it so I could like sit next to Brad Pitt and be like hey What if he starts a conversation with you? You just sit there like sorry mr. Pitt don't talk to me You also don't get paid to be the seat villain. I heard that's a very, very long day of standing on. Oh my God. Why would you do it? Stuff that. I think it's mainly for the story, which is annoying
Starting point is 00:56:29 because you're not allowed to talk about it. Yeah, so there's literally no reason. Having said that, I am thinking of employing some seat fillers for my 2016 comedy festival show, guys. I'll do it, David. Please, please fill those seats. That's just what a festival pass is, right? Yeah, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:56:46 That's what it is. The Family Commedians. The Academy Award Pass. Alright, I wanted to spend money to have a big orchestra, a mile up the road, but they don't pay the people who have to sit through this boring fucking show. Just so there's no brief shots of an empty seat. The shot would be a total of maybe three seconds. It feels like giving them something. brief shots of an empty seat. The shot would be a total of maybe three seconds.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Feels like giving something. If it was the golden globes, I'd be annoyed. You're sitting at a table drinking champagne with bread, peat and that. And I was actually just sitting down and it goes for hours. Oh, that sounds like a nightmare. Three and a half hours of the ceremony,
Starting point is 00:57:17 you also probably have to get this, take your seat beforehand. My goodness, it's a long one. I think you should get a fruit basket at the least. Yeah. You get a fruit basket, well you don't get a fruit basket. I'm trying to say for a seat for a little bit. But if you are at the Academy Awards and you're nominated, you've probably heard that people get free stuff, a show bag.
Starting point is 00:57:35 If there's anyone that needs free stuff, it's actors and directors. And we're not talking like Royal Melbourne show, show bag. We're talking the good stuff. Well I'm talking the good stuff. Like do the seat fills get a, they don't get the show bag? No. So, well, the show bag we're talking the good stuff. I'm talking the good stuff. Do the seat feelers get a they don't get the show bag? Well, they're the ones you should get. Get the show bag. Well, the show bag this year it's the tradition that started in the 1970s. It's become increasingly lavish and nominees for best actor or best actress, best director oscars.
Starting point is 00:57:56 They received a gift bag that was valued at over 120,000 US dollars. This year's bag, this is some of the best items included. $20,000 worth of car rentals from Silvercar, the all-al-D airport car central company. Do they need that? I also love the idea that Brad Pitt has to fish that out of his wallet. He's just got this. He's never using it, right? No, a $250 vibrator from Afterglow, an adult toy that uses low-level laser therapy to enhance a razzle. How much does that one worth?
Starting point is 00:58:28 Just $250. A $20,000 gift certificate from Enigma Life, which includes dream analysis, a horoscope reading, and a lesson in mind control techniques. $20,000. $1,000. Mind control techniques. That should be a lifetime like All day every day $20,000 should buy you of mind
Starting point is 00:58:52 Mind what was it mind mind mind control? No, Ming technique mind a lesson in mind control Okay, so you can sit there and like Jedi I'm Jedi make Billy crystal reader your name instead of Nicole Kitten's name. So dumb I can't restore it at your name instead of Nicole Kidman's name. This is so dumb. A $10,000 meal donation of Halo Pet natural food to the animal shelter of the celebrity's choice. At least that's charitable. That's the first half, that's the first one that is anything.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Sure, okay. And eight. And $800 voucher for a custom candy buffet from Candy Vixen. This is the dumbest collection of things I've ever heard. I don't even get like, baits headphones. It's not something cool. At this stage it's just a bag full of pieces of paper for vouchers and a vibrator.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And to top it all off, a $25,000 piece of custom furniture designed by Ellen Alina Fakoli. My question is, how do they get that one in the bag? Is that another piece of paper? Is there some, some poor porter carrying around like a piece of furniture? A side table all night. It really sounds like the answer to the question What do you get someone who has everything? Bag of crap.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Bag of fouches. And a $25 iTunes voucher. That's ridiculous. And not everyone even iTunes voucher. That's ridiculous. And not everyone even takes them home. I wouldn't know. There'd be a big bin at the door. George, George, the recycling bin filled with paper. George Clooney, who won Best Actor in 2006 for Seriana,
Starting point is 01:00:20 auctioned his Oscar gift pack and donated the proceeds, which was $45,000 to the charity United Way for hurricane relief so good on him. He did something good Okay, and I'm just gonna finish off as we did last week with some cold hard Oscar facts love it Speaking of George Clooney Multiple award winners George Clooney is the only person to be nominated for Academy Awards in six different categories Oh, oh, can we guess? Yes, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Best director for... Yes, best director is there. Was that for the descendants or something? Oh, I can't pick the movie. I don't know. I'm not going to pick the movie, so we'll just go category. Best actor, best supporting actor. So we've got best actor, best supporting actor, best director, that's three, yes.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Best writer, screenwriter. Actor, Best Director, that's three, yes. Best writer, screenwriter. Best original screenplay, yes. There's also another writing one, Best Adapted Screenplay, number five. And Best Picture for Argo, which he was the producer of. Oh. So six. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:01:17 All right, you got to have another trivia go here. Three films have been nominated for 11 Academy Awards, which is the record. What three films do you think they are? Titanic. Oh, okay. 11 nominations. Titanic is there, yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:31 They are all epic in scale. Lord of the Rings 3. Which is that one? I've no idea. The return of the King, I'll take it. Yes, it is. It is which, a side fact, longest film title to win the Academy Award for Best Picture. Until Birdman, which full title is Birdman,
Starting point is 01:01:45 or the unexpected virtue of ignorance. Oh, there you go. So we've got a load of the rings, we've got... What do you want to do that today? Oh! There's one more classic epic film. Gone with the wind. No, no.
Starting point is 01:01:57 More classic. More epic. Er, big cast. I just love it. I just love it. More on Rouge. I suppose. Big cast. This is a it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it.
Starting point is 01:02:06 I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it.
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Starting point is 01:02:22 I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I just love? Ben, that's right. So they got 11 nominations each. Sorry, wins each, 11 each, amazing. John Ford has won the most Academy Awards for Best Director. He won four, start on. Catherine Hepburn won the most awards for leading actress, also with four.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Daniel De Lewis has won the most for leading actor with three so far, but he's still alive. He chooses roles very carefully, but when he does, so you might get another one in his life. And shortest time to be nominated for an acting Oscar was Hermione Badley. In Room of the Top, in 1959, she was on screen for two minutes and 19 seconds. So it must have been a great role, right? She nailed it. And the winner of the most Oscars, Final Fact, in history is Walt Disney, who won 22 Oscars. Oh, wow. From 59 nominations, he also won the most Oscars in one year when he got four in 1954. They were all except for two were awarded for short films and the other two were for Documentaries.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Documentaries. Oh, right, okay. So none of the feature cartoons. Yes, so the cartoons that you would imagine that he would win for. Right, but they were short films. So all except for two. So like Lambert, the sheepish lion. And the winged one. I don't even know that film. Lambert, the sheepish lion. Lambert. Is this real? It's always trying to be a white and woolly sheep.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Lamburt, the sheep, fish flying. Is that real? Yeah, it was like a featurette that I think was played before one of the movies. Well, if I had made that up, I would be a genius. That is so good. And that certainly can't be true. This is there was about a lion who for some reason became part of a flock of sheep.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Sure. And as it grew up in a big lion, it believed it was a sheep. And then the wolves attacked the sheep pack, flock, and then the lightning crashed. and he found is in a line and he and he Scared the wolves off. Oh Matt. I've got some terrible news for you. It doesn't. Lamb it. Did I make that up? The sheepish lion in 1952 was nominated for best short subject Cartoon it was beaten out by another Walt Disney film natures half Acre so there you go. We beat himself at Lamb at the cheapest line. Not good enough. No, Academy Awards.
Starting point is 01:04:48 It's crazy that that was nominated. No, I got the fuck. Crazy, that's still in my head. I would have seen that, like, sometime in the 90s. I love it. Yeah, you know the song. Were you alive in the 90s? Yes, I was born in 90.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Dave and I are the same age. That's right. We're two days apart. 1990. Good year. A great year. Well, that's the Academy age. That's right. We're two days apart. 1990. Good year. A great year. Well that's the Academy Awards. Now that we're at the end, is there anybody that you'd like to thank? I would just like to thank the Academy. Oh no! No! He's my long list of people to thank. I've got to go.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Oh okay, wrap up. I love that guy said, okay, wrap up and then get talking. Thank you. I want a legend. What an absolute legend, but um, no, I would I don't know if I would would think the the academy there's 86% one mile over 62 years. I'm about making any speeches for if you want awards. I've promised I've promised Peter Jones that I'll thank him if I ever win an award your good pal good comedian Good comedian Peter Jones see if we can make Jess promise us the same thing. When you think our podcast? Yeah, of course, because this is where it all began. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:05:50 So when I win a low-key, yes, you'll think the podcast. I'll thank you. The boys. Can you just say just the boys that do go on, the Beaty Weedy. Yeah, and the skinny boy. And the skinny boy. Skinny boy and Beaty Weedy, you know who you are. And then I'll start crying. I'll start crying. And then your mom willed widow, you know who you are.
Starting point is 01:06:05 And then I'll start crying. I'll start crying. And then your mom will be like, why didn't you think? Stolen him away. Yeah, no, Graza. You'll be crying because the skinny boy died in that horrible accident. Oh my gosh. And bearded widow and I haven't spoken for a long time.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah, because bearded widow caused the horrible accident. Exactly. Oh, thanks for bringing up the premonition of my untimely death, Matthew. No, everyone's healthy and safe and we're all okay. I think you're about to say, now everyone's gonna die. I don't worry about this. We all are. So, what? Well, I hope that before I die, I win an Academy Award. I hope you get to see. I believe in you, Dave. So that's it. I went on and on about the Academy Awards. Thank you very much for indulging me.
Starting point is 01:06:52 We're going to continue writing millions of trivia questions about the Academy Awards, even though I sort of respect the process a lot less now, but that's okay. And we will be back next week with a report from UMAT. Yeah. You are up next. Oh, yes. But me, yeah. But no, this is your warning.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Start writing your damn report. All right, good. Caly. I'm a reserchant. Start reserchant. And we will catch you there. All right, just looking around for ideas. I'm going to do a report on bricks.
Starting point is 01:07:22 We are surrounded by brick. Hats. Door history. Make you door table. History of headwear would be pretty awesome. Ooh. Oh. Spoiler alert. Who knows, checking next week, when Matt will go on.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Thank you very much. Bye. Bye. Oh, hey everyone, Dave here. Just saying thanks so much for listening to the show. If you enjoyed that episode, please share it around or subscribe and review us on iTunes. If you're listening on that platform, it really helps get the podcast out there. We also now have Twitter. You can follow us on At Do Go On Pod, which written down looks like At Do Goon Pod, where you can email us episode ideas or just say, hey, or whatever via Do Go On Pod at Gmail.com.
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