Do Go On - 411 - Cher: The Goddess of Pop

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

"Do you believe in life after love?" You read that in Cher's voice, but what do you know about her early life and career? This week, we explore the Goddess of Pop herself, Cher. This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 09:52 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our merch: https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/how-infomercials-almost-ruined-chers-career/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherhttps://www.google.com.au/books/edition/_/zH6rkKoFLWkC?hl=en&kptab=getbook&gbpv=1 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we've got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Wornikey and as always, I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hello, Dave. Hello.

Hello, Dave. What a pleasure. What a privilege. Hey, it's so good to see you. And also you, Jess. And also with you. And it's so nice to be alive, which begs the question, how good is it to be alive? Well, apparently it's so nice to be alive.

I sort of answered that to Jeopardy style. Is that right? They do it backwards? Yeah, I'm happy to be back in the podcast studio. I mean, I wish I was never born, but happy to be here with you guys. It's been a long week. I've missed you. Yes.

I miss you always. I yearn for you. Yeah, I burn for you. Isn't that like, see, like saying I miss you or I have missed you is nice, but I yeard for you. Sounds creepy. Why? That's too much. Why?

Never yearn. What is yearning if not missing? I got, I had way too many dreams. and whatnot a few weeks ago. I messaged a friend, not friend of the podcast, friend of the podcast network, David Quirk, and said, mate, just got to let you know,

I'm really missing you. Like 4 a.m. or something. And then the next day, I'm looking at all, I've messaged a bunch of people. I'm like, oh, the shame is setting in. And then I look at, I'm like, David Quirk, what am I messaging him about?

And I click, on it, seen, no reply. No. And I'm like, oh, mate, that is a very embarrassing message. Sorry about that. And he sent something back very nice. Like, no, no, I miss you too, mate. Yeah, but not I'm missing you. That is different. This would be the same night that you were messaging Jess and I. And I was on the opposite time zone on holiday. So I was getting it live.

Yeah. In real time. I was seeing you. Yeah. I haven't had the guts to go back and read what those messages said. but I imagine that were from the bottom of my heart. Just like you were just saying you yearn for us. In the middle, I late at night, I really feel love for friends. Yeah. Not when they're in front of you, but I've certainly waited that.

I think my only response was, Matt, where are you? Matt, are you okay? Matt, send us your location. Do you need help? Anyway. Yes, anyway. I mean, Matt, if you were drunk at 4 a.m. and wanting to tell people what this show is about.

What would you write? I'd say, hey, podcast. I reckon you're so talented. And I love how you sort of get the three of you together, and one of you goes away and research is a topic. Often that's been suggested by a listener, and then you bring it back and you sort of tell the other two about it in a report, almost like an old school report,

while the other two sort of interrupt and go on dog shit riffs. I just love that about you. I'd probably say something. like that. That's nice. I would not respond to that either. I'd maybe, I'd give it a thumbs up. React or something.

I'm missing you. Thumbs up. I'm missing you. Or it just says, David Quirk has left the chat. There's only two of you in there. Just mad alone in a chat going, David, where are you?

David. But I believe, I'm a bit of, of sorts here, but I believe it's Jess's term to report on a topic. Correct. And we usually start with the question. Is that still the way you do things for any? No, we've changed it up in the weeks that you've been gone and back and gone again.

That's right. The release sort of has been all over the place, but I have been overseas for a few weeks. I'm refreshing. I swam with some pigs in the Bahamas. I swam with some whale sharks in Mexico. Very unlike me to swim with animals. Yeah. But it's my new thing.

Normally you're like, get out. Animal supporters! Get out of the pool. There's a seal in the pool. So I want to get this seal out of the pool so I can go for a dim. I need to do a couple of hours. That's Dave normally. He's a nightmare to travel with.

If you're an animal, I'm a person so he doesn't mind. Oh, you're fine at the pool. Fine at the pool. I think you've got to do a bonus episode one day about why there are pigs you can swim with. Yeah, I go. I will. There's some great stories too about why. Getting your messages about swimming with the pigs and just that whole day you had, it filled me with so much joy.

Oh, I'm so happy to hear that. I was like, look. this. Dave's with some pigs. I was showing them around. I was so happy. The photos were so great. So great.

The water was so perfect. Yeah. And so were you and so were the pigs. Each pig more perfect than the lives. I yearned for the water and for the pigs. I'm missing those pigs. And I've never even met them. Anyway, we do start with a question.

I have a question for you both. Which modern philosopher posed the question about the existence of life. of life post love. Oh, Sherrillon. Sherilyn. Sherilyn. It's not Sherilyn Crow. That's Matt's guest.

Is it sure? No, Dave, do you want to have a go? Is it Cher? It is Cher. Well, that's not right. Share. On a technicality. No.

Scorekeeper, please pay the proper one there. How? But just give me the point. Please give me the point. So it's not what I say, sure, but it's Share. And though I don't remember, because if her name, Sherrileyn, is that right? Sherilyn, that's correct.

And then the only, because I always used to say sure as well, but now every time I have to think, Sherrillan, that sounds wrong. Shererlin. That sounds right. Share. I think people say either and it doesn't really matter. You know, they know who you're talking about. But I call her share, and I'm going to call her share throughout this entire report,

because she is the topic of today's report. And I'm excited about this topic because I've put it to the vote before, and it hasn't made it through, but share is such an icon, but I also didn't know a whole heap about her early years. And she's been around forever, right? For a really long time, yes. Like I remember probably, I reckon it would have come out around the year you were born, but an early pop song memory was turned back time.

I reckon that must have been in early 90s, probably. Maybe late 80s, early 90s? It's 90s, and I will talk about it, but off the top of my head, I can't remember exactly what year. But I think it's like mid 90s. Mid 90s, right? But yeah, that was already, to me, she was a new singer. Right, yeah. At that time, she'd been around for decades.

Yeah, and I was, like, you know, we've grown up knowing who Cher is, knowing her music, and then you see her in films and stuff. And you go, yeah, okay, whatever, it's share. But she has had a really interesting career, has done so many things, and, yeah, has just reached this icon status. And so, like... And she, I just want to know when she ended up marrying the U-2 singer. Is that, did that happen?

No. No. What? I, sorry. You thought she was married to Bono? Isn't she Sunny and Bono or something? Sunny Bono. Oh, that's where I got confused.

Yeah. Sonny and Bono, she wasn't even... You're going to learn so much for today. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I mean, you'll be relieved here. She was once engaged to the edge. Is that correct?

Sure. marrying Bono put me over the bloody edge. Sonny. Sonny and Bruno. So she's, her real name isn't Sunny. Share isn't short for Sunny. Okay, look. He's learning a lot.

I'm really looking forward to hearing what this is all about. Yeah, well, it's been suggested by a couple of people. Emily Rose from Brunswick and Issy Klein from Canberra. And yeah, here we go. Big in Australia. Is she bigger here? everywhere else? No.

Okay. She's not like pink. Pink is huge in Australia. Large Barker. And Michael Bublay. Michael Bublay's big everywhere, but like we fucking love Michael Bublae. And we love pink. Pennywise, I think, are bigger here than most places?

Yeah, really. Yeah. Do you go on? Are we bigger here? Probably. Blink 1-82. Broken Australia first biggest, I think. First biggest?

Anyway, please just. Broke in Australia first biggest. Oh, that's a lot. The price for first biggest. Biggest ghost of. Tom DeLonge. Am I saying that right? Have I said a single word right today?

I don't think so. I don't think so, no. Oh no. But that's okay. But you're having to go. And I keep trying. Well, I learn. Like, Jen was really, I was hearing you were crafting an intro then.

Oh, but she was an icon. But how much do we know about her? Like, you came in, you're like, Why don't she marry the guy from you too? The first time listener of doing her one, because you're a big share fan. Here we go. I don't know if they've already learned something. She wants to marry the guy from you too.

Not many people know that. This is why I always say with, like, watching a new show, I'll always give it three episodes to make the decision of whether or I like it. Same goes for podcasts. Yeah, yeah. You got to get to know us a bit. trust us, we're fun. But at first, it's...

We sound like an nightmare. We're a nightmare, but you get used to us. And there are some genuine info coming up. We swear to you. Okay, so... Sherilyn Sarkisian. Whoa. Was born in Il Centro, California on May 20, 1946.

I love that. I mean, the fact that she has such an incredible name and she still has shortened it to the one. Sherilyn Sarkisian. Sarkisian is one of the best synoms I've ever heard. That name changes. bit. Her father, John Sarkisian, was an Armenian-American truck driver, and her mother, Jackie Jean Crouch, was a former model and retired actress who had Irish, English, German, and Cherokee ancestry. I mean, it says retired actress. Her mother was about 19 when she had her.

So, I don't think she wasn't retired. She was, you know, maybe, like, wasn't working because she just had a baby, but she continued to work throughout the rest of her life. Anyway. Oh, she had a comeback. She had to come back. Jackie Jean Crouch. Jackie Jean Crouch. Such a good name. She's father, John, wasn't around much when she was an infant and apparently had drug and gambling problems.

Money was scarce, as were food and supplies. In fact, at one point, her mother Jackie placed baby share in an orphanage for several weeks until she could save up enough money to support her baby. Isn't that wild? Whoa. Yeah. Because like, and there was a book written about this that came out. in like the 90s, so it was helpful for the early stuff. But, you know, this was, there wasn't like child care centres and stuff like these are

the 40s. So mothers just stayed at home. There wasn't really much help. So if you're a working mother, which her mom was, like, what could you do? Chuck him in an orphanage for a few weeks. It's cool that that was an option, I guess. It's not a good option because her mother later recalled the pressure that the Catholic Mother Superior would place on her to put Cheryl up for adoption.

Like, it's not a childcare option. It was like, I can't afford to look after this baby. And they're like, we'll take her. We'll take her and we'll give it to somebody else, yeah? You want to give it to somebody else? We'll give it to someone else. No, thank you. Really believes in God.

We'll get them in there and we'll get them to be in none. I reckon that's a recruiting thing. Yeah. That's what it was. Oh, wow. So you're telling me that her dad, the drunken gambler, was not providing? for the family. Apparently not.

Jackie would visit her every day, but that time was really traumatic and distressing for both of them. Her parents divorced before she was one and her mother remarried. Cher's new stepfather was also named John. He was an actor, John Southall, and he fathered Cher's half-sister, George Ann, who was born in 1951 when Cher was five. And now living in L.A., Share's mother worked as a waitress while also picking up more acting work again. She'd been singing from a really young age and had won several Towers.

talent and beauty competitions, as well as a number of minor TV and film roles in the 50s. These included, and I love to include names of old movies and TV shows. Oh, yes, when nothing was taken. Watch the Birdie, 1950. Grounds for Marriage. Okay. That's what, like, the mystery misses ground or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And lovely to look at. Oh, that's fun too. I like that. In 1952. Grounds for marriage is fantastic. Grand for marriages. I can imagine like it starts with sort of a bit of a farcical court scene. And the judges, I find there are grounds for marriage.

Into the same music. Yep. I think that's fun. I think it's fun. I reckon any like TV show or song titles in particular, even from now, if you don't know the song, they all sound a bit ridiculous. You know? But back then, they were particularly silly. So yeah, by the mid-50s, her mum's income was largely derived from.

working as a club singer. She changed her name to Georgia and got roles for Sherilyn and Georgian as extras on TV shows like The Adventure of Ozzie and Harriet. When Cher was nine, her mother's relationship with John Southall ended, and over the following years, the family moved around a lot as Georgia married and divorced several more times. Several more Johns. Several more Johns.

She had a type. From a pretty young age, Sherilyn seemed destined to follow in her mother's footsteps and pursue a career in entertainment. When Cher was in fifth grade, she produced and performed a version of the musical Oklahoma for her teacher in class. She organized a group of girls, directed and choreographed their dances. And she couldn't convince the boys to participate, so she acted the male roles and sang those songs.

She sounds like, you know, one of those kids, it was probably a nightmare. You know, like, yes, Sherilyn, I can see you dance. Yes, you tap dancing. Very good. I'm going to put on a show for you. Yeah, great. Can't wait. How about you do your maths homework?

Oklahoma I'm sorry to know A lot of it A lot of If you Jackman played that role once. Mesmerizing. I did a solo of that song at a school concert once. Oh wow. Okay.

Solo. Let's hear it. I don't remember it. Come on. You don't remember any of it? Pretend that's your mum. Okay. And you're singing just for her, your chair mom. My mom's a chair. Yes. Mom, why don't you come a little bit closer? You got legs? I'm inanimate.

Well, my... Okay, I've got legs. You caught me. I just don't want to get closer. I can't lose another child. There's a big backstory. I've lost a few. Anyway, you're singing to your chair, mum.

Now give it on your gap. Yeah, I'm not too. doing that. So fascinated by film stars, Shear's role model was Audrey Hepburn, particularly due to her role in the 1961 film Breakfast at Tiffany's. Have you said Breakfast at Tiffany's? Well, I said, uh, what about breakfast at Tiffany's at one point? Did she sure?

Well, I remember the film. And I said, yeah? What about, well, we both kind of want. And then I think she said, well, it's the best we've got. One thing we've got. Sorry, I'm paraphrasing. That's truly deep. Blue something.

I have to see the film. Yeah. And also covered on a book cheat if you want to listen to. Jess, we won that one? I think I was. I believe you were. I believe I was.

I remember being a good movie. I love when she sang Moon River ride on the balcony. It's nice. The Mickey Rooney stuff obviously hasn't dated so. Jesus Christ. Oh my God. But yeah, I can, I think that was the first role I'd seen Audrey Hepburn in. And I was like, oh shit.

get it. Like, she is captivating. So, uh, and, and, and Cher thought the same. She loved her. She began to take after the unconventional outfits and behaviors of Hepburn's character. Holy Go Lightly is a bit of a, she's like, she's, what is she? She's very aloof, eccentric. And then how old's share this at this stage? Uh, she's like, she's in fifth grade. She's, yeah, she's young. Great. Fantastic. The most aloof age. Yeah. Remember I was a great five. Man, I was freaking aloof. God, you were alloo. I was so. He didn't know anything about it. He's aloof now.

Yeah. He was worse. He's opened up now. She was also really inspired by previous report subject, Betty Davis and also Catherine Hepburn. And she wanted to be famous since childhood, but felt unattractive and untalented, later commenting, I couldn't think of anything that I could do. I didn't think I'd be a singer or dancer. I just thought, well, I'll be famous. That was my goal.

Love that. This is a kid. She's like, I want to be famous. She was born in the wrong era. I've got no idea. There's only a people now. That's an option now. Like Jess, now, TikTok famous.

Yep, I'm TikTok famous. Several weeks ago by the time this comes out, I had a video do pretty well. Yeah, she's currently climbing up the TikTok charts. Are I understanding that correctly? Yep. It is a shame, though. You know, sure. She just, share.

She missed her chance. Unfortunately, she was born in the wrong era and she never made it. She never got to be famous. I mean, I just think that's kind of funny. I don't like kids will go like, I want to be. famous, but it's funny to have the self-awareness at that age of like, I don't know what for. Just fame. Same is the goal.

In 61, her mother, Georgia married bank manager Gilbert LaPierre, who adopted Cher and Georgian and enrolled them in a private school in Encino called Montclair College Preparatory School. Her classmates were mostly from affluent families, and the upper-class environment was a challenge for the now LaPierre girls. They changed their name. I mean, that instantly makes you sound very classy. Cheryl and LaPierre?

Are you kidding me? Yeah. Georgian LaPierre? Yeah, that's why they probably got accepted at this school. They just read the name and went, well, of course. Oh, my God. I don't have to read the rest of this CV. Bloody freaking that.

It's kind of weird that these kids have CVs. Why have you written a CV for your child? Despite, you know, being, feeling a little intimidated by these affluent classmates, share did relatively well at school. She wasn't an amazing student, but she performed well in English and French and she stood out to her peers because of her striking appearance and outgoing personality. She later recalled, I was never really in school. I was always thinking about when I was grown up and famous. She's like, remember the fame, I wish I want to be famous. Yeah.

Which sounds a bit bonkers, but a former classmate recalled, I'll never forget seeing Cher for the first time. She was so special. She was like a movie star right then and there. She said she was going to be a movie star and we knew she would. That's amazing. Just something about it. They're like, nah, she's captivating. But also, it sounds like, you know, that's all on purpose a bit. Like she's probably dressing and styling herself in a way that's meant to be captivating.

Yeah, she's already acting like she's famous. Fake it till you make it. That's right. Just walking into the classroom to the teacher, hey, baby. No autographs, please. I'm just trying to learn some French. So school wasn't really for her. at only 16, share dropped out of school and left home, moving to LA with a friend.

She took acting classes and worked in clubs along Hollywood's sunset strip to support herself. She networked and hustled like crazy, introducing herself to performers, managers, agents, anyone that she thought could help her get a big break. She's just like, she's rubbing shoulders. She's smoozing at 16. Shaking hands. Crazy. Kissing babies.

Kissing babies, saying sorry about kissing your baby. Sorry, but this baby one day could be. famous and I want to be in at the grand level. I want to write this baby's coattails all the way at the top. In an LA coffee shop in November of 62, Sherilyn met Salvatore Bono. Ooh. And you're a relation to Bono from you two. Yes, it is Bono from you too.

Salvatore Bono. He drops the Salvatore later. Just becomes Bono. Yeah. So this is Sunny. Sunny Bono. She was 16. He was 27. Okay. They got chatting. hit it off became friends. At the time, Salvatore, or Sunny, was working for record producer Phil Spector,

widely regarded as one of the most influential figures in pop music history and one of the most successful producers of the 60s and also a convicted murderer. But this is way, way before that. But he was already a psycho. I think he was nuts the whole way through. In the Leonard Cohen biography I read, he did an album with him. It's the only album that Leonard Cohen seemed to really hate. And he wouldn't be on any of his compilation stuff.

And it was just a nightmare. And he said that he'd come in and he'd always have a gun, a loaded gun on him, Phil Spector, and he'd just put it down on the desk and stuff. It was just very uncomfortable. Whoa. That's in the 60s. He's just like, I'll just put this here. 70s, maybe.

All right. You want to do a couple of vocal texts? Yeah, he sounds like an incredibly strange person. And it's funny that it's, he's still like, you read about him. And it's like, yeah, one of the most influential pop figures in pop music. He also killed a person. But he's so, he's behind so much amazing music. But remember those funny wigs he wore to the trial?

Yeah. So strange. Anyway, so Sunny introduced Shared Spector who used her as a backup singer on many recordings, including the Ronnettes, Be My Baby. Oh. Shears a backup singer on that song. Great song. And the main Ronette, Ronnie Spector, is, I think that's no coincidence that her surname Spector.

Hmm. Because she's a big fan of Phil Specter. No, she's a ghost. And also on The Righteous Brothers, you've lost that love and feeling. Wow. Shears a backup singer on that. These are big all-time hits. How cool is that?

Holy shit. So Spector produced her first single called Ringo I Love You. Okay. Which Cher recorded under the name Bonnie Joe Mason. Okay, Cher. I'm not liking it from now. Sherilyn Sarkisian, Sherilyn Lepiet. No, Bonnie Joe Mason.

Your Bonnie Joe. Huh? That's closer to her mom's name. That sort of vibe. Yeah, Jackie Jean Crouch. Yeah. The song was rejected by many radio station programmers, as they thought shares deep contralto voice,

which is a type of classical female singing voice, it's sort of the lowest vocal range for a classic female voice. They thought her deep voice were man's vocals. Therefore, they thought it was a man singing a love song to Ringo Starr, and they were like, Uh, no. Uh, please, in the 60s, that does not happen. Men do not love Ringo, we're not ready for that.

Okay. George Paul Shaw. Yeah. What's what you're thinking? Come on. He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles. So Bonnie Jo, but they're like, this sounds more like Johnny Bo. Yeah.

I'm saying this is a man, yeah? No, thank you. I love you. Ringo, something like that. Yeah. So you know it. Yeah, it's catchy. It's stuck with my head.

I love you Ringo. And it's genuinely about loving Ringo. Yeah. That Ringo. That's so good. And it's even like, it's on YouTube. It's in like, it's almost got a bit of a Beatles sort of vibe to it. Anyway, within a couple of years, Sunny and Cher had become a couple, even holding an

unofficial wedding in a hotel room and Tijuana in October of 64. So do the math. She's 18. It's fine. I mean, he's 30. but it's fine. Why was it unofficial? There wasn't a celebrant there or something.

They just thought they'd do it anyway. Yeah, I just thought, fuck it, we're in love. In a hotel room. Was anyone else there? They hung out for a bit. Let's not. We don't have to talk everything up, okay? You hung out in a hotel room.

You don't have to call it an unofficial wedding. Matt, I can't believe you would pick a fight at our unofficial wedding. Jess, you're right. I shouldn't make a scene here in front of our friend and family. Okay. I just wanted this to be a nice day. No, you're right. I'm sorry.

No, it's just like they just, you know. They arrived to the hotel and they didn't understand the phrase, are you checking in? And they went, yeah, I guess we'll get married. I do. The bell boy's like, uh, okay. I'm fine, right this way.

The honeymoon suite, well, I guess we better. Well, I guess we better. You know, it would be inappropriate not to be married. So Sunny wanted to help share launch a solo career, but she, which is, this is crazy to me, she suffered from stage fright. So she convinced him to perform with her on stage to sing the harmonies. She was like, I'm too nervous.

That's how Sunny got his start. Yeah. And is he standing between her and the audience and blocking her vision or something? Yeah. Well, she would actually quite genuinely, she would like look at him instead. Oh, right. So she would sort of be looking at sunny and singing. He'd stand in front of her wearing a poncho with his arms up.

Yeah. She goes in. Go ahead. Don't look. Wow. Oh, that's so interesting. I, yeah. Just that somebody who's like such an icon and does these huge, like, you know,

known for these big live shows and stuff, it's so interesting that at the very stuff. And she's also, she's like, she's like 18. Yes, but at whole life she's been like, hey, I'm that girl. I'm going to make it. And then it's on stage. It's like, oh, it's surprising. But, yeah.

I want to, yeah, I don't want to be in front of crowds. Yeah, well, I want the crowds to want to be in front of me. But they can't. But they cannot. Yeah. Can I get that kind of famous? I just want to skip the crowds. What fame is that?

Yeah. I just want to skip to recluse. Yeah, I want to skip to very wealthy recluse. Alongside her solo stuff, they released music as a duo under the name, Caesar and Cleo. Okay, you'll be Caesar and you'll be, uh, clear, you like that? You like that? I love it. I love the alliteration.

But their song. They've only seen it written down. They think the Caesar and Cleo. C and C sounds. That works well. Caesar and Cleo. Fantastic. Perfect.

Their songs, do you want to dance? Love is strange. And let the good times roll. Were poorly received. All of them have the word Ringo in brackets. Do you want to dance? Ringo. Are they all covers?

Love is strange. Hey, Ringo. Yeah, they're just obsessed. Let the time's roll, Ringo. You've got to drop the Ringo thing. Okay. That's weird. He's got to rest.

training on, okay. At the end of 64, Cher signed with Liberty Records and Sonny produced her single Dream Baby, which did okay. It got airplay in LA, but it didn't exactly grab much attention. Next, she released a cover of a Bob Dylan track, All I Really Want to Do, and it made it to number 15 on the US Billboard Hot 100 in 1965. A little fun factor that I read on this amazing share website, Wikipedia.org. Oh, cool.

Says, meanwhile, the birds had released their own version of the same song. And when competition on the singles chart started between Cher and the birds, the group's record label began to promote the B-side of the Bird's single. Roger McGinn of the Birds commented, we loved the Share version, we didn't want to hassle. So we just turned our record over. And what was the B-side? Camberine Man or something?

I'm not sure. Love it. Not sure what it was. But I like it, they're like, No, Shares is better. Yeah. That same year, Caesar and Cleo started calling themselves Sunny and Share. Kind of crazy, using their actual names. Well, one of their actual names.

Yeah. And traveled to the UK in July. They were told that Americans just didn't get them. And if they were going to make it big, they had to go to England. And they're like, that's where Ringo lives. Oh, my God, yes. I'll go. I'll go.

I'll go to Ringo. You're at 15 on the charts. Yeah, they don't get it. They don't get us. They don't get me. According to writer Cintra Wilson, English newspaper of photographers showed up when Sunny and Cher were thrown out of the London Hilton because of their outfits. The night they arrived dressed as bright and groomed. Un officially. I'm going to need

to see a marriage license. What does the take to get kicked out of the building? I don't know, just their outfits were maybe they were too scantily clad or maybe. Was she wearing her turn back time assless chaps? Who knows? So then the press turned up and literally overnight they were stars. London went nuts Amazing Getting kicked out of a host Incredible This is still from Wilson

London went Gaga For the here to four Unseen Sunny and Share Look which was neither mod nor rocker It's like it's more about their fashion Yeah Back then you could be one of two Moda rocker

Motta And if you have something else Like what? All of a sudden there's two more options Sunny and Cher I'm sunny On top of this attention Their song

I Got You Babe was going really well, reaching number one on the billboard charts and was one of the biggest selling and most beloved pop rock hits of the mid-60s. As the song knocked the Beatles off the top of the British charts, called that ringer. English teenagers began to emulate Sunny and shares fashion style, such as bell bottoms, striped pants, ruffled shirts, industrial zippers and fur vests. No wonder they kicked out of the Hilton.

My God. Fur vests. Upon their return to the US, the duo made several appearances on the teen pop showcases hullabaloo and Shindig! Shindig has an exclamation mark. Hence my... I felt that.

Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, you exclaimed it. I performed it. And they completed a tour of some of the largest arenas in the US. So they've just like blown up really quickly all because of I got you, babe. Wow. Their shows attracted Cher lookalikes.

Girls who were ironing their hair straight and dying at black to go with their vests and bell bottoms. And Cher expanded her creative. She ended up designing a clothing line. Wow. They just, like, really quickly were huge. Like, overnight. They're massive. All within the same year, they released their first album.

Look at us. Oh, she's changed her tune. It spent eight weeks at number two on the Billboard 200. Behind the Beatles, help. So, Ringo. He was crying out because they were really getting, you know, stalker. That's amazing. Yeah.

So that was, like, Peak Beatles when... Yeah. Yeah, right. I didn't realize, yeah, they went that far back, but of course they did. Yeah. I got you, babe. That's still probably one of the most iconic duets, right?

Yeah. With the islands in the stream. Yeah. What else is up there? They're the two big ones, I reckon. People are yelling at their iPods right now. Yeah. They're saying, what about a Christmas jewel by Cindy Lauper and the Hives?

I'm like, well, it's a great song, but I don't think it's quite as iconic. What about, and then I go and spoil it all. Is that like father and daughter? Oh, Frank and Nancy. Frank and Nancy, man. That is a bit weird. But that is something stupid, Frank. Honestly, please stop.

Don't tell your daughter you love it. So what you're saying, Matt? Never say that. So what you're saying? I think that's a good rule to live by. You don't want to soften them up. Yeah, no. Remember, I am a million years old.

I kind of do things a little old. school. That's true. I have to remember that sometimes. Frank snatches a young man. Yeah. It's really a cultural difference between us, isn't it? Yeah. Frank. Young Buck. If anything, you're quite progressive for being on a podcast with a woman. Yeah. Hmm. That you're not married to. Yeah. Yeah. Well, not officially. You've checked it. Yeah. Another thing from, uh, from that share website, Wikipedia.org. Sunny and Share charted 10 billboard top 40 singles between 1965 and 1972, including

I got you babe, baby don't go, the beat goes on, all I ever need is you, and a cowboy's work is never done. That's a real wild card. At one point, they had five songs in the top 50 at the same time, a feat equaled only by the Beatles and Elvis Presley. Wow. Huge. Together they sold 40 million records worldwide and had become, according to Time Magazine, Rock's It Couple. Huge.

So just like, yeah, in the span of a few. years, they have blown up. I had no idea that were that big. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I feel like I've only heard of, I got you, babe, maybe. Yeah. And I guess, like, I mean, they did have a long-running career. But, yeah, I mean, it's definitely the biggest, for sure.

And alongside the huge success of Sonny and Cher, share was still releasing solo stuff too and doing really well as a solo artist. Her song, Bang Bang My Baby Shot Me Down. Oh, yeah. Which... Nancy Sinatra sang that as well, didn't you? Yeah, I knew it as a number. Nancy Sinatra song, but it was originally

Share and it was written by Sunny. Oh, I didn't realize. Me either. I know, isn't it? It was, it reached number two in the US and number three in the UK and became her first million seller solo single. So yeah, I did, that was just a fun little fact that that's actually a share song. I didn't know that.

That is a fun fact. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I'm learning today. You are? I'm yearning. I'm burning.

Can we turn the heater down? Yes. I was a joke. But no. Dave, what are you doing today? If Matt's burning and I'm yearning. I'm earning. Hell yeah, baby.

Hell yeah. I'm never off the clock. Okay, so you're buying lunch today. Fantastic. Easy. But this meteoric rise was unsustainable, and by the end of the 60s, Sunny and shares music was failing to chart.

Heavier electric guitar-driven music was becoming more popular, and it made Sunny and shares folkier sound seem bland in comparison. Harrison. Share later said, I loved the new sound of Led Zeppelin, Eric Clapton, the electric guitar-oriented bands. Left to myself, I would have changed with the times because music really turned me on. But Sonny didn't like it, and that was that. And that seems to be a recurring thing.

Well, he was turned off. He was turned off by it. He was, yeah, he would have been like middle age by this point. Yeah, right? These loud guitars? I don't like it. She's in her 20s still going, I'm loving these new guitars. This is great.

Yeah. They started to lose popularity due to a couple of pretty funny factors. Firstly, they were a monogamous married couple in the age of sexual revolution. And they took on an anti-drug position in the late 60s. So people were like, you guys are square. Square, yeah, come on. Have sex with someone else. Do some pills.

Take some acid, fuck around, or you're boring. So they thought, we need to win back the youth. What are they going to do? What do the youth want? So they produced and starred in a comedy musical Western film called Good Times. Oh, yeah. And it was commercially unsuccessful. Oh, no.

Not good times. You never believe it. The kids didn't want a comedy musical Western. Hmm. But throughout Sunny and Shares' career, and indeed in Shares' solo career as well, there are times where they're just not that popular. Like, some projects flop, others are massive hits. But I mean, it's a career.

career that spans 60 years. So that's inevitable, but she's always done fine for herself. It must be pretty unique to have such big hits in at least three entirely different eras. Yeah, totally. Like, I can't think of anyone else. Maybe Elton John has done something like that. Yeah, she's set records. She's incredible. So her next album was called Backstage. This is in 1968, in which she explores diverse musical genres including Brazilian jazz and anti-war protest songs. And it was not a commercial success. But it doesn't sound like you're thinking it will be, do you? You're not doing that for commercial success. You're doing that for,

you know, probably artistic experimentation. Yeah, exactly right. For growth. But meanwhile, the relationship between Sunny and Cher began to unravel a little bit. Despite Sunny dating other people, the couple officially married after she gave birth to their only child. So they properly tied the knot. They mortgaged their home to make a film called Chastity in 1969, which Sonny wrote and produced, but Cher starred in. And again, the film didn't do super well, but critics noted that Cher had some decent acting chops.

Q Magazine wrote, Shear has a marvelous quality that often makes you forget the lines you're hearing. It's because she speaks so low So you get the edited movie And you go I have no idea What that was about But I loved it

I loved it The vibe of it It was fantastic It's beautiful It makes sense That a film called Chastity would fail In 69

Right It doesn't It's not a nice You know What do you call that Synergy there I forgot what the That's like

You know The late 60s It's all about Free Love man Not chastity Bro Yeah You know

Yeah Or Dave's looking awkward. He's like, there's never been a bad time for Chastity. Yeah, Chastity rules. There's never been a better time for chastity. It's a, I've forgotten what like the synopsis was. It's a romantic drama and it's about, uh, she, she runs away in a Mexico. Pretty exciting stuff.

Right, right, right. And it flopped. It didn't do great, but, but people were like, she can act. At one point they were... Flastity, chastity. Flastity. Flopped and chastity. There was some sort of link there, but...

Flastity. And I accidentally said flastity. No, that's the link. You've nailed it. Flopsity. Flopsyty. Flopsy. I think that's it.

One of these episodes where I ask you, please edit me out. I feel like you should write biting reviews. Chastity, more like flastity. And people are like, what? What? Then you just write an ambiguous three stars. Did you like it or not? He's so confusing, but I just want to, I just want his approval.

I don't know. I don't really remember what he says, but I like his vibe. At one point, trying to sort of pull themselves out of a low point, the duo had a nightclub routine, which kind of sucked. What? According to writer Cintra Wilson, their lounge act was so depressed. People started heckling them. No, that's the sad thing I'm out of it. No, wait.

Then Cher started heckling back. Sunny reprimanded her. Then she'd heckle Sunny. The heckling became a highlight of the act and attracted viewers. So people liked that she was sassy. Television executives took note and the couple began making guest appearances on primetime shows. So just Cher being herself. Right, but like with a prime time shows like Jerry Springer,

and yelling. Like, what's going on? In fact, after seeing them guest host on the Merv Griffin Show in 1971, CBS head of programming Fred Silverman offered Sunny and Share their very own TV show. Their show, The Sunny and Share Comedy Hour, premiered as a six-episode summer series in 1971, just like filling a gap over summer. And it was such a rating success that it was made a full-time show that December. It aired for three years and attracted more than 30 million viewers,

weekly. No, wow. It was huge. And they were, they were so par se, like just, like, what, a year before, two years before? A bit of a joke. Yeah. Amazing. Now they've got this huge TV show.

Because luckily they were so bad they got heckled. Yeah. But then. If they were all right enough that people sort of politely enjoyed it, then we would never have heard of them. And I think this is part of why Cher has had. a long career and why she is so widely liked is that she comes across quite genuine. She's herself.

She's like, she's sassy and like a bit cheeky and she doesn't give a fuck and she takes no bullshit. And it's like, people were attracted to that in the 60s. They were sort of like, I like this lady. Yeah. And I just think that's really cool. So yeah, their show is huge. It was praised for its comedic timing and deadpan share who was mocking.

sunny about his looks of short stature. People like, that's funny. Her music career ebbed and flowed along this commercial TV success. Her single, Gypses, Tramps and Thieves was the first single by a solo artist to rank number one on the US Billboard Hot 100 chart at the same time as on the Canadian singles chart. It's one of those roles of like first to do these, two specific things. Shocking, but no, I've heard, I don't know that one. Billboard called it.

I'm up to two. No, three. That's not bad. Hey? We get a countergoing. Well, that song Billboard called one of the 20th century's greatest songs. Wow. Huge. Can't say it anymore, though.

Can't. Shouldn't. She had some great success working with producer Snuff Garrett. Oh, yeah. Incredible name. Snuff. She worked on, I think, a couple of albums with Snuff Garrett. Funny.

I do you think that out of the two producers, you've got Phil Specter and Snuff Garrett. Guess which one's crazy? Snuff's a mild man of man. Snuff sounded great. He sort of got some really good stuff out of her. A lot of the stuff they worked on did really well. And Sonny would sort of like protest a little bit here and there or actors if he knew best, but then Snuff's decisions would do really well.

So anyway, Garrett left after the release of the 1972 album, Foxxie. Lady over disagreements with Sunny about what kind of material share should release. At Sunny's insistence in 1973, Cher released an album of songs called Bittersweet White Light, which was commercially unsuccessful. Okay, so he's got a bad, sort of a bad... Compass. Vision. That's what you were miming?

Yeah. Yeah. Is it? You can be honest if it wasn't. There's another word. Fawcite. Vibe. Vibe.

Bad predictions. Brain. He had a bad brain. Had a bad brain. Bad back. He had a bad back. We'll be there. He was getting old.

Other songs and albums did well, and Cher even released a greatest hits album in 74. 50 years ago. And according to Billboard magazine, it proved her to be one of the most consistent hitmakers of the past five years, as well as a proven superstar who always sells record. So she's smashing it. It's the 70s. Oh, yeah. It's so long ago.

She's doing so well. It's crazy. A little fun fact I read as well. In 1976, Mega Toys released a line of toys and dolls in the likeness of Sunny and Cher, which coincided with the popularity of their TV show. The miniature version of Cher ended up being the highest selling doll of 1976, surpassing Barbie. Whoa. Wow.

And we just did a Barbie episode, so I was like, that's crazy. And late in the episode, There was a reference to the share Barbie. Do you remember that? Yeah, and I was sweating because I was writing this report. Oh, interesting. But then I did that thing of like, don't make any comments because they'll know, but nobody will ever know. Anyway.

Yeah, well, you worry that AJ would be like, actually, I've also got a bonus share report to do right now. And I'd be like, no, shut up! And luckily, you didn't. So they're huge stars. They're doing really well commercially, but behind closed doors, it was a different story. Oh, they did an unofficial divorce. Same hotel room. From late 1972, Sunny and Cher's marriage was on the rocks,

but their TV show was doing really well, and audiences loved when their daughter joined them on the show as well, and the three of them appeared to be a perfect family. So they kept up appearances for a couple of years, but essentially had separated. In February of 74, Sunny filed for separation, citing irreconcilable differences. A week later, Cher counted with a divorce suit

and charged Sonny with involuntary servitude, claiming he withheld money from her and deprived her of her rightful share of their earnings. The couple battled in court over finances and the custody of their child, which was eventually granted to share. In 74, Share won the Golden Globe for Best Actress for the Sunny and Share Comedy Hour. The same year, Sunny premiered a solo show on the ABC, the Sunny Comedy Review. And it was like, I think it was the same sort of creative team behind Sunny and Share, and it was cancelled after 13 weeks.

So he goes solo, does his own show, does not do well. Yeah, it's hard when the straight man goes solo, probably. I am so short, aren't I? Yeah. Yeah, ha, got it, muggly. Oh. Hey, don't say that to me, me. Not good.

I've still got 13 weeks out of that. Yeah. So that was 74. He did his solo show. In 75, Share returned to TV with a solo. show on CBS. It was called Share. And it began just sort of like as a big special

and it had like Elton John and Bet Midler on those guests. And it was produced by David Geffen, who she was dating at the time and centred on her songs, monologues, comedy performances. Early critical reception was favorable. The LA Times exclaimed that Sunny without Cher was a disaster.

Share without Sunny on the other hand could be the best thing that's happened to weekly television this season. Imagine reading that. She's crushing it. Brutal. You're both feeling bad for him. Don't worry about it.

He's fine. No, I mean, I'm not really. He's dead. Yeah. You don't feel sorry for the people. You can't feel bad for dead people? Well, I was always told as a kid, never feel sorry for the dead. Don't feel sorry for the dead.

Right. You haven't heard that? No. I, I, I weep for the dead. God, I feel sorry for. I pity them. I find funerals to be joyous. I'm patronising in my pity for the dead.

Yeah. I'm really like, Oh, you know. You're right. But here, I just sat a flashback. He died in a, like, a full-on way. I'll get to that. So, Shares TV show lasted a year,

mostly because she found it exhausting to do it on her own. It's like it probably could have continued going, but she was like, this fucking exhausting. According to the ringers, Lindsay Zolads, Share found the network senses to be more watchful than they were when she was married to Sunny. When she was single or casually dating, Share always seemed to pose more of a threat to the status quo

than when she did when she was Sunny's wife, which is yuck. So they're like, I don't know if you can be doing these things unless Sunny's also on the screen too. Whatever. That's so weird. People might be getting ideas out there. Yeah, that women are allowed to speak. In June of 75, she married musician Greg Allman of the Allman Brothers.

Is that them? I'm going to go out and limb here and say yes. I'm also going to say yes. That didn't sound anything like it. But that song? Yeah, yeah, the Ormond brothers. So they got married in June. She filed for divorce nine days later.

Oh. Because of his heroin and liquor problems, but then they reconciled within a month. All right. So together they had a son, Elijah Blue, in 1976. And then Sonny and Cher reunited on TV. They came back in Feb of 76, but she had her son in July of 76. So she was pregnant with her new husband's child while doing a TV reunion with her ex-husband.

It was called The Sunny and Share Show, and it was the first show ever to star a divorced couple. We're truly living in a new age. Yeah, very exciting times. I reckon Sonny, if he got that request, Share is wondering if you want to do a show together again. I reckon he probably would have played it pretty cool. Oh, check my calendar. Check out. He puts the phone down and goes,

Yes, yes, yes, yes. I've got a lot going on in my solo career, obviously. It's sunny's time to shine. Yes! Next week, did you say? Yeah. Look, I can shuffle some stuff around and make it work, but I'd really appreciate more.

Heads up next time. And don't worry, I'm looking uglier than ever. You can really let me have it. It was a rating. success on its premiere, but their banter about their divorce, her reportedly extravagant lifestyle, and her troubled relationship with Greg Orman, it caused a bit of like a public backlash. And eventually the show was cancelled in August of 77, but it still went for like a year and a bit. So they're doing fine.

So the backlash was, though, just like, this is a bit uncouth. Yeah, I think so. They didn't really like, they liked the banter while they were a happy married couple. Isn't that funny? Because it's like that old school, you think of old school American comedy from those days and it's like, oh, my wife, uh, you know, that sort of stuff. So it's all right if they're together. You can hate each other together. But if you're okay with each other apart, that's no good. That's setting a bad example. Yeah, yeah. It's very strange. Her next couple of albums were commercially unsuccessful and writer Keith Tuber has an idea of why. He said a weekly television series can spell disaster for a record. recording artist, regular exposure on TV allowed people to see and hear these performers without having to buy their records. And that's what happened to share. So people are seeing her sing and be funny on TV weekly.

They're like, well, I don't need the album. Yeah. Well, I'm getting enough of her. So that's interesting. She and Orman recorded an album together called To the Hardway and divorced shortly after the release. I think that would have been great because it would have been him being like, I think that I don't mean sick. Is that kind of how it's saying?

I think it's nice. And I didn't quite get it at first because I think, like, as a duo, they were all men and women or woman or something like that. And I was like, the fuck. Then it's like, all men and woman. And I was like, okay, that's pretty funny, I guess. That actually works really well. That's actually super clever. I was like, holy fucking shit, that's good.

You put the phone down and went, yes, yes, yes, yes. I had to hold on to the table. I was like, whoa! Oh, man and woman, yes, yes, yes, yes. That is gripping the table for tea alive. Yeah, that's what I did. It was crazy. Oh, man and woman.

It's good stuff. That's fucking perfect. So they split up shortly after they released this album. together. I mean, there's nowhere to go after that. Yeah, you've baked. It's like good. She had a two-year relationship with Gene Simmons, which I didn't know.

Oh, okay. That's pretty cool. And in 79, she changed her name from Cheryl and Sarkisian, La Pierre Bono, Allman. So she's just collecting these names? To just share. Did she actually collect all those names? Yeah. That is fucking awesome.

Sherilyn Saki-Sien, La Pierre Bono, Alman. Wow. Bono Orman. I think, yeah, I think much more efficient where she landed. I agree. Just share. She launched a comeback single and album both called Take Me Home and capitalised on the popularity of disco at the time. Both the album and the single became instant successes, remaining bestsellers for more than half of 1979. This is a quote from Cher.

I never thought I'd want to do disco, but it's terrific. It's great music to dance to. I think the danceable music is what everybody wants. Share with a hot take there, disco, good for dance it. I thought about it. She just tries stuff and goes, yeah, cool. I'm into it. I never thought I'd like that, but it's fun.

Yeah, I love that. And she's probably loving it. She's like, I'm still famous. Still famous. That was the goal. When I said before three distinct eras, it's way more than that, obviously. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like seven.

It keeps going. Yeah, incredible. It's wild. In a change of pace in 1980, she formed a rock band called Black Rose. And although she was the lead singer, she didn't receive top billing because she wanted to create the impression that all band members were equal, except for the fact that at the same time that she was singing in the band, she was also doing a residency show at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas, earning $300,000 a week.

Whoa. In 1980. Whoa. But we're all equal. Okay, I don't want top billing. As she helicopters into their band practice in a garage. And this is like, this is the time where she had, like, she cut her hair really short and had it sort of, not really short, but like, she's had like really big spike.

Likey hair for a while, if you could picture that at all. I can't picture that. I reckon you'd have seen pictures, but she sort of went a bit more of like a rocker kind of look. And despite appearances on television, the band failed to earn concert dates and their album Black Rose received unfavorable reviews and they disbanded. Failed to earn concert dates. So no one would just book them?

Yeah, I guess so. Can we get a good thing about? Yeah. Yeah. So it's sort of like, yeah, that. Very 80s. 80s. Yeah. A big hair.

Yeah. So that's like a mullet, basically. That's her more in like a rock. Like a poodle mullet. Yeah. The kind of haircut that Rod Stewart has kept forever. Yeah. The exact thing that have you asked a costume shop for an 80s wig.

Yeah. They're going to give you that. Her Vegas residency was the beginning of a three-year world tour, which yielded two TV specials as well. So She's doing just fine. Black Rose has split up, but shares crushing it. She's fine. But they're all equal.

They're all equal. But was Black Rose, you know, was it good music or? I don't know. I haven't, I didn't recognise any of the songs. I haven't listened to much or any of Black Rose. It was just kind of interesting to mention that she also was in a rock band for a while. I mean, I just think it's fun that she's trying out different stuff everywhere she goes. Yeah, totally.

And her, like, she has music crosses genres and she does all sorts of stuff and she gives stuff a go. She later recalled, I was making a fortune on the road, but I was dying inside. Everyone kept saying, share, there are people who would give anything to have standing room only at Caesar's Palace. It would be the pinnacle of their careers. And I kept thinking, yes, I should be satisfied, but I wasn't satisfied. She wanted to further develop her acting career. And so she moved to New York with the plan to take acting lessons from Lee Strasbourg, which is kind of cool. She never enrolled in the classes, but that was the plan.

Oh, I mean, Cher, what are you, sure, you don't enroll. You just turn up. You just turn up. You say, you walk into a class and you say, everyone out. Strasy, baby. Where do you need me? Show me my mark. Yeah.

Lime! She ended up landing a role in the Broadway production of stage production of a play with one of the longest titles I've ever seen. Come back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean. Come back to the Five and Dime, comma, Jimmy Dean, comma, Jimmy Dean. Okay. Oh, yeah, you weren't fumbling over there. It actually says Jimmy Dean twice.

Maybe the person writing it down. All right, I got an idea for a show. That's a long title. But then they were on two calls at the same time. I'll meet you down to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean. Jimmy Dean. Is that it? Okay, yeah, got it.

Roger that. It's long, but I guess it'll all make sense. What is a Five and Dime? A dime is like, is a certain American coin. Is a Five also an American coin? Maybe it's about coins. Maybe it's like a coin. shop.

The five and done. She was cast in the film adaptation later that year and from that role was cast opposite Meryl Streep and Kurt Russell in the 1983 film Silkwood. But audiences weren't really used to the idea of Cher as an actress. And she later recalled attending a film preview during which the audience laughed when they saw her name in the credits. So at the very start, she's in a premiere. Oh my God.

She comes up on screen and the audience laughs because they're like, oh, okay. Oh, no. But she's a comedian. that'd be the best. Imagine just your name brings out laughter. Yeah. Dave Warner. It's good.

He has a funny thing about him. Can't remember a word he said, but man, he's funny. I guess it would be like if the movie came out and said Leonardo DiCaprio. Meryl Streep. Carrot Top.

You'd be like, okay, going to be the funny guy in the movie. What's happening here? You think carrot top and share are sort of... No, but you know, you're talking about she's known for her comedy roles at the time. Yeah. Maybe you go.

I think probably the equivalent of these says be Roe McManus. Okay. You know, done tonight shows. Yeah, yeah. Release hit records. Yeah. Yeah, you'd see that and go, okay, here we go. Here we go.

Roe? Acting? I don't believe it. I can't wait to see it. But despite those laughing audience members, for her performance, Cher was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, and she won the Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actress.

That isn't good. She was actually really good. People were laughing. People like, shares in it, loll, and then she was amazing. And they read out the nominees and they read out shares. They were laughs. And she wins the award they read out. They laugh.

She does her acceptance piece. And they laugh. And the Academy Award for Best Actor goes to Carrot Tom. Her next few roles received critical praise and she was well and truly a movie star now. For her performance in the 1987 film Moonstruck, she won the Academy Award for Best Actress and the Golden Globe for Best Actress. Starring our main man, Nick Cage. That's right. She won the best actress award.

Yes. I didn't know that. Wow. Isn't that crazy? She also revived her music career once again. This is in 1987, releasing her 18th studio album. Whoa. In 1987.

That's a lot of albums. The album was called Cher. Oh. Eighteen albums. I love a late career self-titled. I love it. How do you feel about them? I prefer it.

I don't necessarily. love a first album self-title. Okay. I'm like, okay, mate. Okay. Really? Because it's sort of makes some sense. Actually, I'd be calling my first album best of.

Oh, yeah. That'd be pretty funny. That'd be pretty funny. And I'm a funny band. Yeah. But not like my content isn't funny. I'm just a bit funny. Yeah.

Funny in the head. Did Weid Hornet ever do a self-titled? The EP that we recorded was just called Weid Hornet. Yeah. The Weid Hornet EP. And that's why it, the Weid Hornet is a was and not an ears. sunk without a trace. I'm sorry, if six million copies isn't that impressive to you, okay?

It's not. It's not. 15 in the US Hot 100, great. But not top 10. We've got to go to England. We've got to give a shit about us here. Can we get, because I'm sure some listeners want it, can we do another run of the EP on Do Go on Records?

Can we start a label? Our first release is a re-release of 2004's Wheat Hornet-Eap. Yeah. Our second release is. Jess Perkins singing all the rolls for Oklahoma. All the roles. Yeah. Share style.

Share style. But on different tracks. So you have to get like 18 copies of the CD and play them at the same time to hear the whole musical. Oh, Dave, no. We'll do that work for them. It'll already be. Although that's not about it. Always earning.

Exactly. I'm burning. You're earning. You've got to sell 18 times as many coffees. There was a, I don't think I ended up mentioning it in the report, but there was, at one of Shares, like, a TV special she did, there's a 15-minute sketch, essentially, which is just her doing all the characters of Westside Story.

Wow. And it's amazing. And it went viral, like, a few years ago, it sort of resurfaced online. And people were just like, it's just Share doing all the characters. 15 minutes is a long sketch. Such a long time.

It's so good. Anyway, so she's released, Share, the album. And she's won an Academy Award. She's one in the best. Incredible. By the end of the 80s, Cher was also receiving attention for her controversial lifestyle, though, including her tattoos, plastic surgeries, exhibitionist fashion sense. I mean, why am I doing the gasping? You fucking take a hint.

And, no, one more. And affairs with younger men. Oh, my God, Dave, you, okay. Can't break. All of these things that like, you know, I mean, she is celebrated for these things now. But like, today, people would be like, cool. But haven't she worn like outrageous outfits the whole time? Yes.

And it's the 80s. Yeah. How strange. Yeah. But they're like, okay, but she's from the 60s. So we have to apply 60s logic to this start. Yeah. Also, I think it's fair enough because, you know, that people are making it scandalous that she's

with younger men because they were also scandalous when she was with an older man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think fair's fair. They were definitely upset about that, weren't they? And rightly so. So, yeah, so she's sort of like, I don't know, she's, but she's still hugely famous. I think it's probably like the Lady Gaga meat dress and stuff. You know, like she was just out there.

She was doing stuff differently and that attracts attention. And also like, you know, the meat dress who was, no one actually cared. There would probably, you'd probably go back and be able to find articles that found it scandalous. Yeah, yeah. Most people just thought it was pretty fun. No, or you just don't care that much. Yeah, exactly. It would have been the same back then.

Of course. You get these wowser headlines. You're like, geez, back then. They couldn't even have a few tattoos. Yeah. Without going hogwild. She had tattoos on the right term. Hogwold.

I don't think Hogwild's right in this case. It feels right, though. It felt right. Okay, great. Well, let's use it. And I lied to you before. You were right, Matt, because her 19th studio album, Heart of Stone, came out in 1989.

It was certified triple platinum and the music video for its second single If I Could Turn Back Time. So it was before we were born. And not even the first single. Second single. It caused controversy due to Cher's performance on the battleship USS Missouri,

straddling a cannon and wearing a leather thong that revealed her tattooed buttocks. Most people were like, well, I'll be dead in the cold, cold ground before I recognize the battleship Missouri. Yeah. It is a wild film clip.

Yeah, it is. Is that, wait, that's, is that the real Navy? What do you mean? That's the most scandalous to go. I just remember there been like hundreds of people. Yeah, on, on deck. Or dancers or something. They're on a real ship.

That's not a real ship. They're on a real ship. The USS Missouri. Yeah, and it's possible that they were real Navy people. I doubt it. Yeah, okay. But, yeah, that she was on a cannon. She was wearing like a leather.

Turn back time. Yeah. Fuck, it's a good song. And how old is she at this point? This is in 1989. She was born in 1946. Okay, so she's early 40s. But she has a hit another 15 years later or something.

Yeah. Or more, something like that. It's wild. It's insane. Yeah. It's so cool. I don't remember. Is the tattoo something funny on the butt?

I don't know. There's a W. on each cheek. So when she spreads them, it says, wow. Wow Jones, the old footballer, that's the story. That's a double tattooed on each cheek. Wow. It's a great nickname.

It's so funny. But that's one way to get your own nickname, isn't it? Yeah. Tattoo it on. It's locked in. Tattoo first. I am also, I do want to flag, and I think I kind of said this at the start. I'm brushing over a lot of stuff too

I'm jumping through some decades and just picking up big stuff because like I mean fuck this is a career that spanned 60 years and she's still going She's amazing She's done so much She's released so much music

I could just list stuff at you But I'm just trying to like Give an overall picture And maybe tell you some stuff that you didn't know about you Yeah I'm a bit annoyed You didn't cover albums 13 14 or 15 I'm liking this

Because I found it a bit tedious when you had to drag up every detail when you did the Beatles report, because there just wasn't much on them. So you had to really go day by day on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Ringo had to go. What did Ringo have on the eighth day? Oh, bloody hell.

Cheetos again? Is that a breakfast? Yeah, Cheetos. Yeah. And milk. Flaming hot. But this is something that I didn't know about Cher. In the early 90s, she developed chronic fatigue.

She got, she sort of caught a virus, and it developed into. chronic fatigue syndrome, and she was too exhausted to sustain her music and film careers. It was just, like, too taxing. But she needed to earn some money, and she wasn't healthy enough to work on other projects. So she starred in infomercials. What had she done with all the money? She was earning $300,000 a week. I know, it's crazy.

I know it's bad management or something. No, but it's always these things with like, but people have that much money. Like, so much goes into houses and logistics of your life. I don't know. I think once you have so much money, you just keep needing more money. Sounds like a good system to me. It's a great system. I think we should stick with it.

Some people think we should burn it down. Not me. I think this sounds good. So I was more interested in the fact that she did infomercials. I also have never seen any of these? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're on YouTube. What did you watch?

Shamwow was Cher? Well, it's a sashy got the name. It's mostly like health, beauty and diet products. Oh, wow. A lot of like shampoos and stuff like that. And this was unheard of, like such a big celebrity doing infomercials. Some saw her as a sellout. Others said it was like the end of her film career.

She'll never come back from this. Saturday Night Live parodied her a lot. And she later said in an interview, suddenly I became the informational queen. And it didn't occur to me that people would focus on that and strip me of all my other things. Like they wouldn't go like movie star. Even though she's holding the Academy Award whilst talking about the diabetals. She's just an informational queen.

However, she made $10 million from these. She made great money. And look, we know that she is still a household name. It didn't end her music or acting career at all. But it was just this sort of like weird dip in the 90s where Cher was doing infomercials. It's, I was like, what the fuck? So cool. I found that really fun.

And there's no shame in doing infomercials for $10 million cash. No, I'd do them. That's fucking awesome. Fuck, I don't know if I would. No, I would. How yes you would. But I hate them. Do you?

Yeah. The ones on like the Today Show and stuff where they're in this fake set. Oh, I love watching them. And they're talking about health insurance or something. Or they spill like water on a mattress protector. I love the ladder guy. You know that ladder girl? Yeah, Latter guy's good.

He's great. And it's like this ladder. It's not one ladder. It's 58 ladders. Exactly. I love that guy. I love that letter guy. I'd hang out of him all day.

You know when you've run out of room for your 58 ladders. It's not one ladder? Where am I going to store all these ladders? I have to buy a second property. Just, to storm a ladders. He's got the routine sewed down pat, and you've seen him do it in all these different scenarios.

It's the same word for word. And he's so excited about it every time. Big Kev, rest in peace, was another great one. Yeah, he was excited. Beautiful. Oh, and of course, I can't go further without talking about natural glow.

Yeah, you love natural glow. Look at it, natural. Just put it on. Natural glow. So good. It's big in New Zealand. People from New Zealand or whenever I bring her up, they message me and I've always forget her name.

But the natural glow lady. Natural glow. Natural glow. I've never seen it, but I love it. I love it. So shares infomercials were mostly for hair products. The Laurie Davis beauty products are like hairline. Anyway, it's a little fun.

Good eye. Something that Matt alluded to before in 1998, at the age of six, 62, Shares ex-husband, Sunny Bono, died after a skiing accident in South Lake Tahoe in California. He lived a pretty weird and interesting life after Cher as well. He continued to have, like, acting roles here and there. But he also entered a career in politics. He became mayor of Palm Springs from 88 to 92 and served as the US representative for California's 44th district from 1995 until his death in 1998.

Wow. He was like a congressman. Huh. Upon his death, his wife, Mary Bono, was elected to fill the remainder of her husband's congressional term. She was elected in her own rights seven subsequent times before being defeated in the election in 2012. Wow. Isn't that crazy? So, yeah.

So he, yeah, quite famously died in that accident. Having that partnership and being like his less significant wife. Yeah, we're in Congress as a partnership for a couple of decades. Just a footnote though. And Cher did the eulogy. But Mary asked her to, apparently. She delivered a tearful eulogy at his funeral, calling him the most unforgettable character she'd met. She paid tribute to him by hosting the CBS special Sunny and Me, Cher remembers, which aired in May of 1998.

And that month, Sunny and Cher received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame for television. Not to sort of brush over it, but yeah, it's definitely obviously a part of her life. I had always had in my head that he had died much younger. Like, I thought he'd died while still married to her or something like that. But they had long been divorced and he'd lived a whole life. And he was in his 60s, which is still, you know, far too young. But I had it in my head that he was way younger. So, yeah.

I don't, does he look sort of like the dad from the Adams family? Yes. Because that's who I'm picturing. Yes. Gotcha. I can't picture him, but I keep picturing. You've nailed it. Dad from Adam's family.

Gomez. Gomes. Especially. From the old TV version of me. The black white beautiful. Especially like in later years I reckon. So like I think he's um, oh no, there's a photo of him on, yeah, on his Wikipedia page that I think he definitely looks like. Totally.

That's smile and everything in the mustache. Oh yeah. Yeah. So yeah, good, good one there. So yeah, moving on from from that very sad time, obviously. That same year actually, 19. 1998, shares 22nd album, Believe, was certified quadruple platinum. That was 98, was it?

Yes. I was thinking that was in the 2000s. That was 98. It went on to be certified gold or platinum in 39 countries, selling 10 million copies worldwide. The album's title track reached number one in 23 countries. It became the best-selling recording of 1998 and 1999 in the UK and US. For kidding. It earned share the Grammy for Best Dance Recording and the 1999 Billboard Music Award for Hot 100 single of the year.

Crazy. So 98. So now she's 52 or something. And that's when Believe came out. That's wild. Is that her last smash hit? Probably. But it's, I mean, it's still, you know, didn't it just win a cover of it just won a hottest 100?

Yes. That is correct. Earlier this year. Yep. It's still like a huge song. It's huge. It's a great song. And yeah, it just, it won all these awards.

It was absolutely huge. And then she went out on tour. The do you believe tour ran from 1999 to 2000 and was sold out in every American city in which it was booked, amassing a global audience of more than 1.5 million. Wow. Finally, America's starting to pay attention. At the 99 World Music Awards, she received the legendary award for her lifelong contribution to the music industry.

And then she was back on the big screen as well. Her performance as a rich, flamboyant American socialite in tea with Mussolini earned positive reviews, with one reviewer from film comment writing, it is only after she appears that you realize how sorely she's been missed from movie screens. For Cher is a star. That is, she manages the movie star trick of being at once a character and at the same time, never allowing you to forget, that's Cher. Like, you're like, I believe the character, but also, that's Cher.

There's like a little sign above her head that they put in post. Share. A little neon light. Am I remembering this right, Dave, that Andrew McClellan supported her recent tour? Is that true? Yes. He opened for share. Isn't that wild?

He listens to this podcast. He is a friend of ours. Wild. He's an incredible DJ. He opened for the share tour. He opened for share. What a guy? It's fucking crazy.

I'm pretty sure there was a pic, he got a picture with her. And like he's in his usual because he's a beautifully dressed man. Probably Melbourne's best dressed man. Always in like a three-piece suit. Okay. I'll take that personally. Do take it personally. He's gorgeous and he's wearing like suspenders and he looks amazing and she's in like this big sort of

Vegas show girl outfit. It's incredible. I couldn't believe it. I could not believe he opened for share. It was so cool. Yeah, massive. Anyway, so Believe has taken off. She's in movies still.

She's just everywhere. In June of 2002, she embarked on the Living Proof, the Farewell Tour, announcing that it would be the final live concert tour of her career, although she vowed to continue making records and films. So she's like, I'm done doing the big tours. This is 2002. How old is she then? She's born in 46. So she's 56. That's fair enough to ease back on the touring life.

Especially a world tour. Yeah, and she's doing like huge dates. Now eligible for those, for retiree insurance that you see in those daytime ads that she probably used to advertise. Initially scheduled for 49 shows, the worldwide tour was extended several times. By October of 2003, it had become the most successful tour ever by a woman, grossing $145 million from 200 shows and played to 2.2 million fans. Wow. Forbes named Share the highest paid female musician. of 2003,

earning $33.1 million. I hope she saved some of it. Yeah, I think she probably did. Remember, it was supposed to be 49 shows? It was 326. Wow. Yeah, she's like, this is the last time I tour

because it'll probably go for the rest of my life. It ended in 2005. She toured for three years. It's one of the highest gross inconstitutes of all time. But that's still a show like every three or four days over a few years, right?

Yeah, it's fucking crazy. Absolutely. Lots of travel, obviously. Yeah, wow. And so then she retired. And then three years later, she came back in 2008 for a three-year 200 performance residency at the Coliseum at Caesar's Palace, Las Vegas. Okay, great. At least you don't have to travel.

Yeah, you just leave in Vegas for years. You come to share, okay? Yeah. And for that, she earned a reported $60 million. It's so crazy. The show was called Share. And the production featured state-of-the-art video and special effects, elaborate set designs, $14,000. dancers, four aerialists and more than 20 costume changes.

And I'm so upset. I didn't see it. Imagine! Okay, here's the part. It's just a short bit, but I'm excited to talk about it. In 2010, she starred in one of my all-time favorite movies. And I say that, not that it's a good movie, but I fucking love it. Berliske.

Oh. Where she plays Tess, a sassy nightclub owner. It's Christina Aguilera is in it. Story-wise, oh, bad. Agingular acting not good. A whole movie? Fantastic. 12 and 10.

Love it. Whoa. Okay. I love it. My friend Lindy and I used to watch it. In fact, yeah, we are due to catch up soon, so we better watch it. But we would catch up twice a year and watch Belles. And is it a cameo from Cher that everyone goes, oh my God, it's shared.

No, she's pretty big in it. She's a big character. Stanley Tootch is in it. Toch. Kristen Bell's in it. Okay. It's a good cast. Sandy Cohen, Matt.

Oh, those eyebrows. Yeah, so you're in. Love it. Absolutely love it. Great movie. America's Dad. One of the two songs she recorded for the film soundtrack, the power ballad, You Haven't Seen the Last of Me, reached number one on the Billboard Dance Club

Songs chart of 2011. Oh, wow. Making sure the only artist to date to have a number one single on a Billboard chart in six consecutive decades. Wow. That is ridiculous. Isn't that crazy from the 1960s to the 2010? she's had a number one.

And you occasionally hear of like, you know, Elvis has had through multiple decades, but they're posthumous releases and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is like current new music each time. Yeah, not just someone sampling it or something. Yeah. Yeah. Her putting out a new track.

So cool. She's very funny. And I'm also only three years into this new decade. Yeah. Yeah. So it's still time share. I believe. Her other big movie of recent times was Mama Mia, here we go again.

the sequel. New York Magazine's Vivian Olin and Matt Harkins commented that it's only at the climax of the movie when its true promise is fulfilled. Share arrives. It becomes clear that every single movie,

no matter how flawless, would be infinitely better if it included Cher. Where was Sharon die hard? Where was she? How good is that? She recorded two other songs for the film soundtrack,

Fernando and Super Trooper. And beyond, from Abba said she makes Fernando her own. It's her song now. Oh, I love that. I love when a songwriter says that's their song now. Yeah, he's like, Fernando's yours. Obviously, not for royalty reasons, but...

Absolutely not. We'll be taking the cash, thank you very much. While promoting Mamma Mia, Here We Go again, Cher confirmed she was working on an album that would feature cover versions of songs from Abba. The album, Dancing Queen, was released in September of 2018, and Rolling Stone wrote that the 72-year-old makes Abba songs not only sound like they should have been written for her in the first place,

but like they firmly belong in 2018. Wow. So it did really well. So she just record a couple for the movie and was like, I like this. It's fun. Hey, Abba's a bit of fun. Yeah. But also, oh, my song now.

Okay, I might take a few more. I'm going to take a whole album of them. Thanks, Bjorn. Absolutely ridiculous. So, yeah, like I said before, I've brushed past a lot of impressive. of achievements in a career spanning 60 plus years. But to sum up a little bit as well, Cher has been hugely influential in the world of fashion, philanthropy,

politics and entertainment. She supports and is outspoken for several children's charities. She's been a vocal supporter of American soldiers and returning veterans. And when COVID hit, she launched the Share Care's Pandemic Resource and Response Initiative, along with the head of Columbia University's pandemic resources and response, to support chronically neglected and forgotten people through the pandemic. In 2020, she travelled to Pakistan to advocate for and work with the country's government

to have Kavan, an elephant who'd been confined to a zoo for 35 years, transferred to a wildlife sanctuary in Cambodia. She's a queer icon. According to McLean's magazine, Cher was one of the first to bring drag to the masses as she hired two drag queens to perform with her at her Las Vegas residency in 1979. And she's also served as a role model for parents of queer kids as her daughter publicly came out as a lesbian at the age of 17. And while Cher admitted she didn't have the best initial reaction to the news, she soon came to accept her child's sexual orientation and has been very, very public, publicly supportive as Chas Bono came out as a trans man in 2009. And that's kind of like, these are early times for this to be happening in a really, really public setting.

So Cher has been like a good sort of role model of for other parents of queer kids, which is an important role. So it was interesting. It was like quite honest to be saying that her initial response wasn't good. I saw a interview with Parkinson where she sort of talks about her kind of initial reaction and feeling like guilt and blame and all these things. and Parkinson's sort of like, but you're a queer icon.

She's like, I know, and I have so many gay friends and I love the gay community, and I just, you know, I didn't. Strange. Yeah. And I think partly, and I don't mean to speak for share, but.

No, I think you can. You've read about her for a week. I've read about her for a week. I know the woman. And I think part of her reaction was that she was kind of one of the last to find out. She was one of the last to be told. So I think maybe a little part of it is like, you didn't feel comfortable telling me and that can hurt a little bit or you sort of feel like

I did something wrong there. But anyway, she's been very, yeah, a great sort of supporter of the whole community for years. In fact, she was the keynote speaker for the 97 national parents, families and friends of lesbian and gays convention. And just to finish up, Cher is commonly referred to by the media as the goddess of pop and Goldmine magazine's Phil Marta said Cher has been and remains today one of the rock. era's most dominant figures. As the solo artist, Shear has sold 100 million records worldwide

in addition to the 40 million as part of Sonny and Cher, making her one of the best-selling musical artists of all time. She almost has an egot. She's only missing a Tony. There's still time. There's still time.

Has she ever done anything Tony worthy? That musical with the longest title you've ever heard of? Yeah, she's done a bit of Broadway stuff. Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean. Jimmy Dean. Get back to the Diamond. Five. Five and dime Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean.

She's released 26 studio albums, 10 compilation albums, two soundtracks and three live albums. She's appeared in 18 movies and numerous TV shows across six decades. In a 2001 poll biography magazine ranked her as their third favorite leading actress of all time behind Audrey Hepburn and Catherine Hepburn,

the very women that a young Sherilyn Sarkisian admired and who dreamt of being famous one day. That's incredible. And also, 18 movies and they're still like, yeah, they're best. One of the best we've ever seen. I mean, how many was Audrey Hepburn in? She wasn't in that many, was she?

I don't know. I had no idea she was such a good actress. And as you've read out a few of the movies, I've realized, I don't think I've ever seen her in a movie. You gotta watch burlesque, baby. The only one that came to mind was mermaids. And I don't know anything about it, and I don't think I've seen it, but maybe it's, that she's a mermaid.

That's what I've gleaned. Yeah, you're just guessing. Yeah. From the title? Yes. You can't judge a book by its cover, mate. But is she in a movie? movie called Mermaid?

Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, this little, this little Cheryl and Sarkasian dreamt of being famous and you cannot deny that she freaking did it. She did it. She did it, everyone. She's done so much. So, yeah, I wanted to just kind of like talk about some of the stuff that I didn't

know about. I like to focus on the early years because that was, because we're so incredibly young, that was well before our time. So young. I wanted to talk about that. But yeah, that's my report. on the goddess of pop, share. Incredible.

Loved it. Thank you so much for bringing, I don't know, a word for it, but bringing that knowledge to us and imparting it to us. Yeah. Thank you so much for imparting that knowledge. Yeah, thank you so much. Well, I think, Jess, that might bring us to everyone's favorite section of the show. Mm-hmm.

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And with the original artwork. Yeah. It's always so good. Pretty cool. Murray Somerville. has got the title Triptitch Club Cleaner Oh my God

That's a brutal job You've given yourself Murray Yeah But we're so glad Someone's finally taking the position I haven't been able to find The toilets there So I'm going in some weird places

And you're often behind the bar Yeah But I wander off Like a dog Go to find a place to die I go to find a place to shit And Murray Is asking a question writing

Sometimes I forget Our microphones are on Yep. This is more a question for advice. I have a neighbour who has asked me to take her rubbish out a couple of times a week because she has problems with her wrists and can't carry things. I've done this for the past couple of years. I'm loving.

I don't know where this is going because I don't read them until I read them, but I'm loving this if we're going to become like a help desk type section. I love to give advice. I'm ready to give advice on any topic. Yeah. I've got opinions on everything. I've done it for the past couple of years, but lately I've started to think she's taking.

advantage of me. She's a major germaphobe. I've seen her carrying her groceries up from the car park and carrying deliveries. She's definitely faking her wrist problems. I never used to mind doing this, but since I now feel like I'm being taken advantage of, I've started to resent taking a rubbish out. What would you do in this situation? All right, Mary, here's what you're going to do.

You're going to get yourself two fake casts. Put them on your wrists. Great. Say, I'm sorry, this is, I've broken. and my wrists. Could you take my rubbish? No, don't do that, but just say you can't for a while and then just avoid her at all cost.

Maybe move. Oh, moving. Yeah, I hadn't thought about that, but moving is an option. But that's an instant out of I can't for a while. Would it be, are you going to be able to do that yourself? And as an artist, I think Murray could probably whip up a couple of casts. Yeah. I know he's more of an illustrator.

Yeah, but I mean, maybe draw them on. Art skills are pretty transferable. Yes, I think so. The final line here, though, might be. sway you Dave before you give your opinion. She rarely even says thank you. Oh, no. Fucker.

Fucker. Fucker. That's bullshit. And so is it just putting the bin out or taking the rubbish down? Ooh. Well, it depends on where you're living. Taking her rubbish out, not sure. I wonder if it is like he's going to like to her door, getting the bag from the kitchen.

Oh, yeah. Or putting the bin out to the street. Oh, yeah, I think maybe he's taken the bag from the house to the bin. That's too far. for someone who doesn't say thank you and I'm guessing she probably lives alone but yeah she doesn't say thank you but then again the flip side of this could be

he's seen her carrying other stuff she's in a lot of pain and very uncomfortable carrying those things but she doesn't want to bother him that much you know to ask him to also help with groceries or something like that's very tricky it is tricky I'd go for the fake casts yeah but then you can't put your own bin out can you Murray just let the trash pile up

yeah personally what I would do is just keep taking out the rubbish and just fume internally. Yeah. And like, you know, bitch to my partner all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, if I don't do it again. Or forget a few times.

Yeah. Get bad at it. It's a, that is, it's a tricky one, Murray. And, uh, I wish you all the best. Wow. So helpful in committal. You just said you'd love to be a help desk. I, uh, and then you gave no advice.

He never gives advice, though. His advice is always like, now stay on the fence. Stay on the fence. Stay where it's comfortable. It's beautiful and dry up here. Bottle up your emotions. No, well, I'd, yeah, maybe talk to her, if that's not too full on, just be like, hey, do you still need this done?

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. That's a, that's a freaking hard one. I could never do that. I could never. No, 100%. I'm a big, I'm all talk. No, I wouldn't do this myself.

But also, next time I saw her carrying packages or all groceries in, I'd be like, oh, your wrists are feeling better, are they? That's good. Yeah, I'd be a real passive. aggressive piece of shit. Murray, wish all the best. Please give us an update. Dave, what are you saying?

So I like the fake cast. I think that's our best. Yeah, fake casts. One, do you have any better than that? Can you send her a package? She carries up and it opens up and it says, Oh. Gotcha.

Gotcha. I guess you're risk. Murray, post yourself to her in a box. She'll carry that inside. You burst out of the box and say, we didn't have an issue with that, did you? Yes. Yes.

Or at least like a bowling ball. Something very heavy. I go with a camera on it. If she's definitely faking it, I think then obviously fuck her. But like Jess says, what if she's just really struggling with her groceries? I think what you need a private investigator. It's like a work cover claim.

Get a dick on her. Yep. All right, Murray. Keep us posted. I'm in. Thank you. And if anyone else in the Patreon group's got any advice? Yes.

What would you do? Tag Murray. Because. And the next one comes from Katie Clay's, aka coordinator of awkward moments. Oh, you could be used up at Murray's place. And Katie's also got a question writing. I'm thinking about heading overseas in December slash January, but not sure where to go. Any suggestions are singing Spain or Italy.

This is great to have the canvas wide open. Do we know where they're from? Katie Clays. I can find out. I think Australia. Oh, great, great, great. I do highly recommend Italy. Which part, that was very big?

Yeah, I've been to Rome, Venice, I mean, Pisa, just for like the day, you know. Beautiful. Saw the tower, went, bloody hell, that's on it. It's a bit of that angle, isn't it? Lovely cathedral there. That was one of the most beautiful. Nah, I just saw the tower. Where else did I go in Italy?

Somewhere else. Do you mean to Florence is a big one? Florence, yes. W.A. W.A. Okay, great, because I was just wondering, like, if it's like a, you know, in England or whatever, they've got the luxury of being able to go to Spain for the weekend, basically. I mean, Katie, why not do Italy.

Italy and Spain. That's what I think, because they're quite close to each other. Very close to each other. Very doable. I mean, obviously, budget and everything, you know, if you can only go to one, I haven't been to,

oh no, I've been to Spain and Italy, but I was only in Italy for half a day. Just popping through. Spain, I went to the running of the bulls, Pamplona, and on the way there, I found out that it's no good for the bulls.

So I was, Yeah, as soon as you said that, I was like, that's not a very Matt Stewart-Tor event. I thought, well, it's funny, I didn't look into it at all. And I just thought it was like, it's a festival of the bulls. Running of the Bulls, they'd love it, they must love it, and they're treated like kings. I didn't realize they either die by breaking down during the running or if they survive it, they then get stabbed to death at the end. I didn't realize it was.

Oh, God. Yeah, that doesn't feel great, does it? They're running across cobblestone streets. It's pretty, anyway. Yeah. And if you're going to go to Spain, don't do that. or La Tomatina, the tomato throwing festival, it's fucked. To be honest.

I nearly did it once and then I had tickets and then looked. I did look into it and went, oh, that looks awful. Yeah, it was really bad. You get really, so you're on a crowded street. Like, you are squished up against people and then a truck drives through. So you're just squished up against strangers. It's not good. Pampalana was very similar.

You had to wear all white. The same there? No. You had to wear all white. You wore these red bandanas. And this is like the after part. I didn't end up seeing any of the Bulls. But the after party, like I've drawn a very fine line there.

I'm not going to do the Bulls. I'll celebrate with everyone who did they. And it's just Sangria and everyone's just covered in Sangria by the end. People are putting their hand down your pants. Pickpockets arrive. Yeah. Good fun. Good fun.

People told me before I went, wear two pairs of pants. Did you? Oh my gosh. Well, yeah, I can't remember. There was some sort of security system. But they had their hands in my empty pockets. I'd avoid any of the, though, I mean... Let's say Italy.

Let's say go to Italy. I mean, these are, I'm saying these are places where 22-year-old like me, Australians were. Yeah, but I also got robbed in Barcelona, so... I really enjoyed Barcelona. I vote Italy. Okay. And that is, I mean, if you're going to Italy, go up to the north, maybe to the Swiss. Italian border to a town like Gouda, where my ancestors are from.

Tiny little town, it's on my bucket list to go to. Beautiful. But yeah, I mean, they're both great. Friends. But geez, I'm excited for you, Katie. Dave's the guy to ask, he's the traveller. Yeah. A bloody jet setting.

I've been to Spain, Italy a couple of times each. A couple of times each. Very nice. I prefer the north of Italy. I think that is a good tip rather than maybe the south. That was just my opinion. But, yeah. So it's January, isn't it?

Yeah, it's a summer, January. Winter. It's a cooler time. Yeah. I think that... That'd be nice. But yeah, if you went to Madrid, that I'll still be...

That won't be freezing. Thank you, Katie. All the best. Let us know where you end up heading. Next one comes from Nathan Damon, aka group dad, ask your mother. I'm watching the footy and grab me another beer. Oh, Nathan, you'll live in a great life there.

His... Not give us a factor quota of question. He's giving us a congratulation. Oh. Sending the biggest congratulations to Sophie and Gatti J, who both, separately one would hope, are expecting. Yeah. As they say, it takes a village to raise a child and you belong to a community that will ensure you both raise the most interesting kids. And Gary commiseration on losing the ashes, hopefully as it's one, two at the time of time.

Well, it ended up being too old. But they didn't retain. Didn't retain. But I think, you know, Nathan, I think would probably agree in the end of a fairer. result. I think Gary would too for the Ashes. At the time of recording, England's just beaten us in the World Cup soccer. Yeah, we're a little salty about it. Nah, not really. I didn't give a shit. It was, I mean, it was a great tournament. Yeah. And Stokel, we got a bunch of listeners who are big into the Lionesses English football team. So I'll be

barrican for them in the final. And Spain as well, actually. Maybe that's where you should go, Katie. go visit the Spanish women's football team headquarters if they win. If not, fuck them. The final one this week comes from Amy Clark, okay, a brigadier general forgettable name. Brigadier. No, because when, I don't, I won't say it because it'll get stuck in everybody's heads and you'll be mad at me.

Don't worry about it. Continue. And Amy's asking a question writing, it's true, as my title suggests, that many people have been forgetting my name almost immediately upon meeting me for most of my life and I've never minded much because I can get up to some crazy antics

in brackets harmless. But the little riff of you all forgetting my name when reading my last fat quota question submission inspired this question. Have you regularly been referred to by a name other than your own either accidentally or a joke? Oh man, I don't know if it's a question. Have I told you about this guy at when I was a trolley boy at Safeway in Marabin for many years? I work with this guy and ironically, I cannot remember his name right now.

But he was like, he was the cool, he was such an, it was like the lovely guy. He looked and acted like Pat Rafter. It was just like, it was the loveliest guy. Great example there too. And I'd worked with him for probably three years at one point. And he came up to me. And he goes, why'd they call you Matt? And I said, what?

And he looked at my badge and he said, I've been calling you Mike. For three years? For three years. I hadn't noticed. He hadn't noticed. You never heard him say Mike. No, I don't think. I mean, I just, I don't know. But yeah, I can't remember his freaking name.

But geez, he was a handsome man. Sounds like that's what he deserves. Yeah, does that happen to either of you? So what's the question that somebody forgets your name? Has anyone ever called you by the wrong name? Yeah, my uncle. Sure, have I told you guys this story before? I'm not sure.

So we, my dad's one of eight kids, right? His eldest brother is 16 years older than him and like moved to Canberra, you know, while my dad was still, anyway, you should still know your niece's and nephew's names. He came to visit us one time. We were living in Rebecca court and he said to me, I was about eight. I couldn't remember if you lived in Jessica Court and your name was Rebecca. Or you lived in Rebecca court and your name was Jessica. He said that to my face.

And I was like, hi, Uncle Phil. Like, I know you. Anyway, it's become, it's quite, it's funny and it's become this like long running joke. And one time when I was still living at home, and I was like my late teens, I was in my room. I could hear that somebody had arrived. Like, we weren't expect anybody. somebody was in the house and I was like, oh, I'll finish what I'm doing and I'll go down. And my brother comes into the, comes to my door and knocks on my door and goes,

Hey, Beck. And I was like, oh, I know, it's Uncle Phil. That's good stuff. Funny stuff. Now that you're a bit older, do you feel any more empathy for him? Nah. Because I have friends, kids, even when some of them, you know, time's niece and nephews, I have to like take a second and... Sure, but do you say it to their face?

Probably. I have no idea what your name is. wouldn't say to their face. Anyway, good to see you. Unless I really respected them. Yeah. No, it's just... Which I don't.

It's just a funny story. It's just pretty funny. But now you've put it in my head. Did you live on Jessica court? Yes. Okay. My name is Rebecca. Sorry Rebecca about that.

Dave, this would have happened to you all the time when you're rocking up to playing Santa and stuff. Yeah, people keep calling me Santa and I'm like, no, I'm Dave. My name's Dave, you idiot. The kids are like Santa, Santa. I'm like, who the fuck is the Santa bloke? I'm Dave. Look, look at my name tag.

Pull the beard down. Look, it's me, Dave. Here's my Facebook. Check it out. Me, Dave. No, just people frequently mishear your name as Steve on the phone often for ordering food. Okay. And that sucks for you, Dave.

But I get Jeff. That, that sucks. But I had to commit to a place before and just be like, yeah, whatever. And you go to that piece of place knows you was Steve. Yeah, and you're like, okay, I'm Steve now. It doesn't matter. All name is. No.

It doesn't matter. As long as you're getting your pizza. Get my food. But Jeff. Just the code for you. You over there. Exactly, yeah. I'm at number 86.

Working in a call center one time, I answered the phone and said Jess speaking. And it was an old man. He said, sorry, what was your name? And I said, Jess. And he goes, Steph. I said, no, Jess. And he goes, Catherine? And I went, yes.

Yes. Yeah, that's right. It doesn't matter. Who cares? I got Mac once, which I really liked. I'm like, that's way better than Matt. That is. Sorry, but that is.

It's so similar, but so much better. So much better. It's way cool. Mac. Sorry, bet your shit name. That's okay. These things happen. Anyway, Amy finishes by answering her own question, which we always encourage them to do, saying, I often get Emily and Amanda, which is an easy step from Amy, but one college

acquaintance regularly called me Sarah, and I just never corrected her because I thought it was funny. A friend of a friend once introduced me to her husband as Tina for still unknown reasons. Finally, when still working as a funeral director, a grieving daughter, repeatedly called me Deb during an arrangement. I gently corrected her twice and she was so embarrassed. I stopped and I just relented to being called Deb for a few weeks. Imagine being embarrassed and then still doing it.

I'm so sorry, Deb. I thought your name was Deb. Deb, I feel horrible. It won't happen again, Deb. So I always say you name it's Deb, but it's Deb. She's like, Groot. Infliction I'm saying, right? She's like her name's a dead.

Oh, that's funny. That's funny. Well, that brings us to the next little section where we think of a few of our other great supporters. Jess only comes up with a bit of a game based on the topic at hand. Yeah, I'm going to assign them a share song. I love that. Okay.

I've got Spotify open. So I'm going to pick at random. Nine names are going to read out. Maybe while Jess is doing that, Dave, you and I can just go one for one, save you from... Great. Is that okay? Yeah, love it. Awesome.

And, yeah, if any... Because I know a lot of people want a theme song. They want a song to play when they walk into a room. And it's hard to pick one. But you know who's good at picking it? Triple J DJ. That's right. She loves music.

Love music. Jess Bop Perkins. We love new Australian music. So let me list you some share songs. Well, Triple J, hottest 100 winner. DMA's. Yeah. Yeah.

Fuck, it's so good. The DMA's version's incredible. Oh, man. They're great. Like their vibe. Like their stuff. All right. I'll kick us off from Jamestown in Pennsylvania.

I'd love to thank Jacob Young. Jacob Young's song is Love on a Rooftop. Love on a Roof. It was an updated version of Fiddler on the Roof, the musical. The Fiddler got more fiddly. The Fiddly. got fiddler got fiddled. Is that something? That's the, yeah, it's the sequel to the fiddler on the roof. Love on the roof.

Fiddler gets fiddled. All right. Consentually. Brackets. Yeah, that's important. I can see now why Matt wanted to go one for one. Oh, no. I didn't even, sorry. To thank now from Iceland. Or this plays right into your expertise. So much appreciation for your support from Iceland.

The most beautiful country I've ever visited. Oh, what a great tip for Katie. It's great. and January, you could see the Northern Lights. You got to. Katie, come on. You've got to go to Italy? Or you want to see the Northern Lights?

Did you just heard how much we had a horrible time in Spain? Bad time in Spain. Dave wouldn't even bring up what happened in the south of Italy. You won't talk about it. They know what they did. We've tried. I had a great time in Spain. I would like to go back to Spain to replace those terrible memories, but I did have a bad time.

Nothing but great memories of Spain. But the chances of seeing the Northern Lights in Iceland in January are incredible. high because January has just a few hours of daylight. So you will have to contend with a lot of darkness, but believe me, it'll be worth it. Great. And this person, I'm sure they see the northern lights where they're from from Celtsijans in Iceland, which is not far from Reykivik, the capital. I would like to say a big thank you to Greta Orne Hejartson.

Hejartson. Man, I freaking, I'm so pumped at how we've got Patreon supporters and listeners from Iceland. So cool. If we could get, if, please, spread the word in Iceland, I would love to do a small show there. Imagine. I'd love to. It would be a huge financial loss for us.

But even if we could get 50 to 100 people in a small room in Iceland, wouldn't that be incredible? Oh, man. I can't believe. Like, there are like a good handful of patron supporters. Oh, I'm guessing they're like friends and family. Surely. Or are they all unrelated? That'd be hectic.

I love it. They're about to be friends and family. Oh, my God, to me. Will you unofficially marry me? And let me, before we assign them a share of something, let me tell you about Seltjans. On the quiet mountain view peninsula of Seltjanas, a nature path leads up to Grotta Island,

known for its lighthouse and rich bird life. Visitors dip their toes into a footpath, a compact geothermal pool by the water's edge. Doesn't that sound beautiful? That sounds so nice. That sounds so. Dave, I could just listen to you reading that. in my ears going to sleep.

That'd be the way to go. Can you just record that website? Just read it for an hour. That's landing places. That'd be nice. Holy shit. That was beautiful. Well, a share song is the sun ain't going to shine anymore.

Oh, it feels appropriate. Feels right. That's great. On your, Greta. Thank you so much. Next person I love to thank. It comes from address unknown. Can I only assume from deep within the fortress of the moles.

It's Brody Leonard. You wouldn't know love. Brody. Had a song? Brody Leonard. Leonard's a great surname, I think. Good one. It sounds like leopard, I think, is why I like it.

Yeah, I see. I get that. Def. Oh, yeah. Def Leonard. The drummer from Def Leonard only got one arm. Thank you so much, Brody Leonard, for your support. Sorry, Dave can't give you some.

He can't commentate your place. I know, we don't know where you are. But I'd love to. From Mount Nazura in Western Australia, love the sound of this already, Ethan Lynum. Ethan Lynum. Ethan Lynum up.

What do we got? I had a good one just before. Oh, we all sleep alone. That's a bit defensive, Cher. Do we? Was this in her chastity era? Oh, we all sleep alone, I swear. I certainly haven't been sleeping with anyone.

That's from the Cher album. Share. Wow, it doesn't sound like she is. Not O'Baird, anyway. Thanks, Ethan. I'd love to thank from Flemington right here in Melbourne, Victoria, Tessa Brown. Bewitched, bothered and bewildered, featuring Cher. It's a co-lab with Rod Stewart.

Oh. The hair at the same time? Yeah, both had the hair. Incredible. Flamington is a great spot to live. Did you end up going to get... Oh, yes, I went to the Luxor King? Lusker King in Flemington.

I didn't get a Luxor because I don't love it, but they did have incredible curry puffs, probably the best I've ever had. It's a great spot. Some are chicken saute skewers. That's a good day. That's my hot tip. You can't book there. You can't book.

You just walk in there. Thousands of people. I used to live walking distance from there. And maybe Tessa does still. Get in there. At the time, I was very excited because I was still going to horse races. And I was walking distance to the Flemington race track. I'm like, I'm living in paradise.

It's just the best. Loxa King one. Way Flemingman Race Track the other? Holy shit. How is this? I would like to thank from Norwood Young America. That's what it's listed as. In Minnesota, it's Joseph Lemmer.

This is a track with meatloaf. It's called Dead Ringer for Love. Oh, yeah, that's good. That sounds right in both their wheelhouses. Yeah. She has collaborated. Yeah, she's been around for a long time. Norwood Young America.

Yeah, apparently I'm looking up now just to, uh... Oh, my God. Oh, sorry. The city was formed in 1997 from the merging of two. formerly independent cities, Norwood, and would you believe, Young America? Named after the Bowie song? No. Young Ameris.

Yeah. I'd love to now thank from Portland, Oregon. Near where we may be coming soon. Not far from Seattle. I'd love to thank Michael Foreman. Save up all your tears. What for? A rainy day.

That's not for me to decide. Okay. What do we do with them? Thank you so much, Michael. Go trailblazers. Is that Portland? Portland Trailblazers? Yeah.

Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure, why not. I would like to think from London. A beautiful place that we've been to many, many times. It's Rinn. The Shoop Shoup song. Oh, yeah. Shoup.

Parentheses, it's in his kiss. Oh, that's, is that from Mermaids? If you want to know, if you like you so, it's in his kiss. That one was, yeah, that was attached to a movie. I remember the film clip had clips from the movie maybe. I don't know. And finally, I'd love to thank from Broadview Heights in God's Country, Ohio. It's Megan.

Megan gets Welcome to Burlesque from the Burlesque. Wow, that's a big one for you. Original motion picture soundtrack. That's such an honor. It rules. That also sounds like a perfect, you know, theme song to enter a room with. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Thank you so much. Megan, Michael, Joseph, Tessa, Ethan, Brody, Greta and Jacob. And the last thing we need to do is welcome a few of our great supporters into the Triptitch Club. Now, these people have been supporting us on the shoutout level or above for three straight years. So they're welcomed into the club and they've got lifetime access, whether they like it or not. Jess, you're working behind the bar. It's a bit of theatre of the mind.

What are we serving up today? I've got chair-themed cocktails. And, you know, because she's such a fashion icon, I've put bell-bottom jeans on little frankfence. That's actually really classy. Jess is losing it. That's a beautiful touch. I really hope Cher can come by because I think she'd really appreciate that.

I think that's a really beautiful homage. But you have to take them off before you eat the drink, then. They're not edible jeans. Are you going to reuse them? Yeah. You're going to take them to a tiny laundromat? This is like the...

Anyway, so yeah, enjoy your fashionable frankfits. I think this is going to change culinary cuisine forever. Are there any other kinds of cuisine? They refuse to serve them in the Hilton. And Dave, you normally book a band for the after party. You're never going to believe it. What? I've actually got an incredible band to reunite for this after party.

Been in in negotiations for several months. Which is incredible because I didn't know this bad existed before today, but still somehow I booked them. Heading the stage at 5 to midnight tonight will be none other than Black Rose. Whoa. Featuring Cher. She is going to be here. Oh, she's going to be able to see the Frank Fitz.

Holy shit. That's exciting. Performing hits from there. One album has just said, Black Rose, which I'm on the Wikipedia.org, page to the Share website. It says the album was a commercial failure. It failed to chart and has sold only 400,000 copies worldwide. Wow.

Only 400. I want to get involved in that level of failure. That's amazing. Yeah, cover to cover. That'll be played, I assume. Absolutely. And then maybe some greatest hits afterwards. We're still in discussions with Cher.

Can I have Share's number? Yeah. You want a Bezo. All right, so I've got six names to read out. Six people are being introduced, inducted into the club. I've got the list right in front of me. I'm going to lift the velvet rope. If you hear your name, charge on in.

Dave's on the stage. He's the hype man. He's going to hype you up, get the crowd going. Jess is there to hype up Dave because he's got low self-esteem and low skills. Do we have four or six? We've got four and I appreciate you correcting my maths there. And interrupting you, I'm very sorry. No, no, I appreciate it because when numbers go below five and I can only count with one hand,

that's when I get mixed up. Yeah, yeah. So if it's four, I'll sometimes think, wait, is that six? Is that 18? Yeah, I just don't know. Anything under five is tricky for me. So if I could read out these four names, firstly, welcome into the club.

Here from Strathmore in Victoria, here in Australia. It's Nicola. I haven't had enough Nicola. I need Strathmore. Yeah, more Nicola. Next up from Mount Gambia in beautiful South Australia. It's William Northcote. Look, I'm not usually much of a Gambia,

but I'm going to put it all on red, aka William Northcote. Nambia sounds a bit like gambler. No, I was very clear. Got to no one to hold them. And next up from Address Unknown, can only assume from deep within the fortress of the mould. Please welcome in Harris. I was embarrassed until Harris got here.

Lift the level of a class. Oh, great, yeah. What were you going to say? I just, I have thought like that it were more embarrassing than you. And so by comparison, you felt better. But they lifted the whole place. Gotcha, yeah. Woo!

There's nothing there to identify Harris, if you are listening. Harris's email address is Brett, something. So, I feel in bretted to you, like debt. Yeah, that's good stuff. And finally, please welcome another Aussie from Thomastown here in Victoria. It's Len Dines. Lemmy Dines with you tonight. Oh, yes.

Take a seat. Take a load off. Welcome into the club. Make yourselves at home. Have a Frankfurt. Take off those jeans. Please don't eat the jeans. Not edible.

Not your jeans. Leave your jeans on. Take the jeans off of Frankfurt. Leave your jeans on Len. For God of my sake. Len, Harris, William and Nicola and leave those goddamn jeans on when. And that brings to the end of the episode.

Anything we need to tell people before we had off, Jess? That we love them and that we're sorry about the Frankfitz. You can suggest a topic. Anybody can. You don't have to be a Patreon or anything like that. You can test the topic. There's a link in the show notes. It's also on our website, which is do go onpod.com.

where you can find information about live shows and the other podcasts we do, like Who Knewit with Matt Stewart and Book Cheat and others. And also, wash your butt. Oh, good advice. Always wash your butt. Matt Dave, boot this baby home.

Well, before we go, we're going to say, share if you're listening, we love you. And everyone else listening, we also love you. We'll be back next week with another episode, but until then, also thank you so much for listening,

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