Do Go On - 412 - Adidas Vs Puma, The Dassler Brothers Feud

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

In 1919, two brothers began making revolutionary sports shoes. The Dasslers were changing the game, until they had a massive falling out and started two rival companies... Adidas and Puma. This is the story of a feud that split an entire town and created two of the largest sports brands in the world. Featuring special guest Kirsty Webeck!This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 10:42 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our merch: https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Check out Kirsty's new podcast, You'll Never Believe This, But...https://tr.ee/bu0wZ_4fbO  Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.adidassler.org/en/life-and-work/chroniclehttps://allthatsinteresting.com/adolf-dasslerhttps://www.cnbc.com/2013/10/09/sporting-rivals-adidas-originals-puma-herzogenaurach.htmlhttps://dasslerbrothers.weebly.com/https://www.businessinsider.com/how-puma-and-adidas-rivalry-divided-their-founding-town-for-70-years-2018-10?r=US&IR=T#dress-code-divides-the-city-into-two-camps-even-today-8https://www.adidas-group.com/en/about/history/https://about.puma.com/en/this-is-puma/history Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnke and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart. Hello Matt. Hey Dave.

So good to be here. Quick question for you. How good is it to be alive? Well, don't ask me that question. Why don't you ask our guest this week? Joining us, it's Kirsty Weber. Hello. Welcome back, Kirsty.

Quick question. How good is it to be alive? Mate, it is so good to be alive. It is a real breath of fresh air having you in Jess's seat. Because she normally tells me she wish she was never born. So I really appreciate that very much. A very different take on the answer. Jess and I are light and shade, famously.

Yeah, yeah. Yin and yang right there. Now, it's so great to have you back on, Dugo, one. The last time you were here, you took out the Golden Shiny Gary Award for horniest episode. So congratulations.

Yet again. Thank you. I never saw that award, but I was overjoyed to have won it. And rightly, so as well. Was that the one that won the rubber fist? Was that the award for,

that would have made some sense. We were giving, that was a trophy for one of the awards. Each award had a different trophy. Yes. Different guest trophy givers come in with stuff and we had end up having, yeah, a rubber fist from a section was one of the trophies. Caspage brought in a rubber fist as one of the awards.

Surely that was for the horniest ever. Yeah. Surely went, surely. I went for most infotainment or something. Yeah. Was that one of them? Most infotainment.

Is it the most informative or the most entertaining or both? Most infotainment. I like that as the whole name of the award as well. Just that is Most Infotainment Award. What? What's this for? Don't ask any questions. It's not that kind of ceremony.

Yeah, so I wonder, can you go back to back? So to speak. Already on fine. Already deeply horny. You and I don't know what this episode's going to be about. So it's hard to know how appropriate it will be to hornify the topic. I would hazard to guess that the one that we hornified last time also shouldn't have been as morning as it was. A disaster.

It was a disaster on a cruise ship and somehow we made it so raunchy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I won't hesitate to do it again. Yeah, please do. And Kirstie, before we get into the episode this week, you've recently just launched a brand new podcast with the wonderful Cal Wilson. I have.

Yeah, it's called You'll Never Believe This But. And it is all about unbelievable stories. Oh my gosh, Matt, that's how we start the episode. We're actually every week we go, welcome to You'll Never Believe This But, which isn't to be confused with the podcast, you'll never believe this, but, which is all about glute exercises. And each week we have a different variation on that. I love it. So good. And so you've launched it, much like the MTS Oceania or whatever that, sinking ship.

The horny ship. The horny ship. The horny ship. Yeah, we've launched it. So far staying afloat, though. It is. A podcast is all about quirky, unbelievable sidings, slightly paranormal. Yeah, so it's got such a wide scope. Like, it's basically any stories that people have that are unbelievable.

So maybe you've got a story that you tell to people and they're like, nah, that didn't happen. Yeah, great. Or maybe you didn't tell anyone your story because you know that they'd say that. So it's literally, like, so far, we've. We've had people ride in and they've told us stories about, like, losing something and finding it, but in like real needle in a haystack situations. The actual idea was born from the fact, I have a deep-seated belief that I saw a panther while I was camping in the Otways, and no one's ever believed me.

Really? That is a – isn't the Otway Panther a thing? Yeah. And I'm adamant that I saw the Otway Panther, but I also saw it in the most unbelievable of circumstances that I know nobody will ever believe. And I told Cal Wilson, who's a dear friend of mine, wonderful comedian and also literally the nicest person on the planet. And I told her the story probably about three years ago. And she was like, well, I respect your right to believe that.

Even Cal is like, cut the shit. There's an undertone there. Totally. So I've like bombarded her with information from the Panthersiding group on Facebook. I'm a voracious reader of other people's panther sightings on that. And you believe them all, I imagine. Yeah, the vast majority, yeah. Yeah.

There's a lot of panthers out there, is what I'm deducing. I've put the Blue Mountains Panther up for the vote on this show a few times. It's come second. I'm going to do the story of the Australian Panthers at some point. You have to. Because there's a few different ones. But yeah, the Blue Mountains have a very famous one. Grandpians as well.

Grandians, yeah. Didn't Grand Dania? He's got like a photo of one in his field or something. Did he? Yeah. Wow. You've got to get him on the pod. We've got to.

Absolutely. Yes. Grant. We will too. I mean, speaking for Grant. It's a yes from Grant. Should I send the interview request through to you, Matt? Yeah, I'm probably.

Grant's not really comfortable just taking cold calls from you. Yeah. Send him through me and I'll get on to Grant. That's fair enough because Grant's been fending off. cold calls from me for quite some time. So I wouldn't want to bother him with another one. He's for international listeners, he's like our go-to game show host. He's probably host, is he a game show host or Weatherman?

Wait, now that you've said that, I'm riddled in self-doubt. Family feud. Right, okay, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he lives games shows. Yeah, just a real host of the stars. Yeah, one of those guys who's very bubbly and happy. Yeah, that's why I thought, you know, like a weatherman or a game show. Just greatness.

Same milk. A thousand kilowatt smile. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we're like, well, over to you, Matt. What do you think about this? Your mum loves him. Yeah. Yeah.

Mine in particular. Yeah, sorry, I was talking about that. I thought he was talking to me, actually. I'm like, yeah, mum, yeah, wild for him. Wild for Grant. We're all wild for Grant. Now, Matt, it's been a while since Kirsty's been on the show. Apart from horny puns, what is the show about Matt?

I'll explain to you, Kirsty. The way it works is one of the three of us, and in this case Dave has gone away and studied a topic. Usually that's been suggested by a listener, he's gone away, I don't know how long, probably a week or so, researched it, written up a report. He's about to read that report to us, almost like we're in high school again, and it's an English oral presentation. Only you and I,

just hanging on to our youth, only you and I as the class more likely than probably back then to go on real dog shit riffs. And be annoying, ask stupid questions and just be kind of tedious in general. Yeah. And Dave, the report giver nearly always gets on to the topic with a question. Do you have a question this week? I do have a question for both of you. Buzzin if you know it or just shout out of you know it. The question is, the Dasler Brothers are most famous for starting which two billion dollar sports companies.

Oh, yes. Adidas. And Puma. Bing! A point each! Because they broke up, didn't they? They had a blue. Absolutely.

Didn't they? Now, I think they owned Adidas together. And they had a blue and then one of them, anyway. This is going to be the shortest episode. Yeah, I was, I was about to say, anyway, thanks so much for everyone for tuning in. That's a wrap. We've had a lovely time. I haven't even said anything horny yet, so that's obviously a joke.

We're going to flesh it out a little bit. We're going to flesh light it out a little bit. we go. Okay. Here we go. He started the ball rolling. No, it is about Adidas and Puma. They started another company and then they split and had a big rivalry. It's pretty wild. And that is today's topic. And this one's been suggested by a few people. I couldn't believe how many people have suggested this actually. So thank you to Yusuf from Erskine and Glasgow, Moritz Stenroda in Berberbach, Germany, currently living in Melbourne in 2019 when they wrote this in. William William Habington from Ottawa, now based in Nagano, Japan.

Also back in 2019, so I don't know where these people are now. Emily Keane from Deep Dean, Melbourne. Emily Keane from Deep Dean. That's fantastic. Where's Deep Dean? Deep Dean. You said Deep Dean in Melbourne. Yeah.

That's made up. Yeah, I've heard it rings a bell. Deep Dean is in a... Is it near, like, Baldwin area? How do you spell it? It's not mysterious ballroom. If ever you don't know where something is, it's always in Borwyn or Outpass Broadie. I'm like, isn't it an out past Broadmeadows?

Maybe you need Greensboro somewhere? I've looked it up. It is next door to Baldwin. Oh my God. Very small suburb here. Can you please spell it? D-E-E-N-E. Deep Dean.

Well, it's it's out in the Ufflaw and East. That's why Dave's heard of it. Yeah, my don't. Fancy guy. Yeah, my domain. You know. The mirror of Deep Dean himself over here. Dave Deep Dean Warnakey.

With beautiful amenities and access to the beautiful people at Palace Ballwyn Cinema. Oh my gosh. And he just said that off the top of his head as well. I know that. Amazing. But a mind. But the thing is Emily Keene from Deep Dean. It says currently living in LA 2021.

So these people are, we've got some jet setters here. Yeah, that doesn't rhyme though, doesn't it? Like, Emily Keene currently living in L.A. Emily Keene from Deep Dean, like you're going to go with that one, aren't? We've got Mike the Viking from York in the UK, Vinnie Polly Castro from Little Egg Harbor, New Jersey, is that real? Mike Salt from Klamath Falls, Oregon, Blake T. Wilde from Yuma, Arizona. Steve Poolebroke from Hay, New South Wales. Dan Higgs from Minneapolis, Minnesota.

And finally, thank you to Kate from somewhere in Adelaide. All these people, a lot of people suggested this. Yeah. Global topic. And at least a few of them in 2019. Yeah, we finally Are they big in the news back then or something? Are you still listening?

Yeah, something terrible happened Between the brothers. What happened? Well, before we get into the topic, I have to say our pronunciation of Adidas is going to drive people from North America wild. Is it Adidas? They love to say Adidas.

Yeah, it's Adidas. But if it helps them, we're both wrong. Oh. How do you really think? It's pronounced Ardi Das. No. Nah, we're not doing that. No.

Ardi Das. With emphasis on the first syllable, there's a whole article written about this. Ardi-D-D-Dars. And I think that's what Germans and a lot of European people. I think maybe even the UK as well because they've got the European influence. Ardi-Daz. We say Adidas. Adidas, mate.

And in America, they say Adidas. Right. It's like we say Nike and they say Nike, which I think again we're doing wrong. Or do we say Puma or Puma? Puma, we say. I was going to ask what, yeah, what you reckon? because there's Puma or Puma. I think Germans apparently they say Puma.

Yeah, we say Puma. I think, yeah, we say Puma unless it's for a 12th man sketch where Bill Lorry's talking about his new Puma pants. Oh, Puma Pants, Richie. Very funny stuff. And very niche. I can't believe you just brought that up. And you know what the thing is?

I haven't heard that sketch, but I knew where it was going. Chris, he's brought it up before. Oh, my God. Gosh, Matt, you've got to let go. I have three anecdotes. One of them is Bill Laurie saying Puma Pants. I wrote this, I started writing this report. I was like, Matt is going to say Puma Pants within the first few minutes.

Oh, no, I'm a Puma Pants. Funny stuff. That's good stuff. It's very clever. It's very clever. That's what I love about 12th man stuff. Very clever. Very highbrow.

But it's something that also, I think, even me as a five-year-old understood somehow. Somehow I got it. So you're advanced or it's not as highbrow as you think? Yes. Thank you, Kirstie. Very advanced. Delete that, please. So let's kick into the topic. I am talking about Adidas, Adidas, Adidas, Puma, Puma, whatever you.

You know what I'm talking about. Water. Water, Adidas. I'm going to try and, I think we should each choose one pronunciation. Kirsty's already chosen Australian. You can do the German. I'm going to do, I'm sticking fat with those North Americans. What did you say?

Adidas. Adidas. I'll try and stick with that. Okay. Water. I'll get on a character. We'll get me to hear that a lot. I'm thirsty for some water.

Water. Adidas. Matt's making me uncomfortable. You don't like Americans, do you? I love Americans. I hate Matt Stewart pretending to be American. That's how they feel, actually, as well. They love Americans in America.

They're on my team. Adidas. It all starts with Rudolph, aka Rudy Dasler. He was born in 1898 in Herzegnaurak, which is a town that was then part of the German Empire. Herzegnerach. I have to say this a few times and I'm going to get it wrong every time. But the good news is Americans would also say it wrong. So he said it was in the German Empire.

Where is it now? Now it's in Germany. Okay. Whoa, twist. 1898, just before that all come together. his younger brother Adolf, aka Adi Dessler, was born a couple of years later in 1900. They had one older brother Fritz, one of the all-time great names. Eddie is this all time.

Was there also a brother called Puma Dastler? That reminds me of the 12th man. Oh no, Poo-Madassal's. Doesn't make any sense. So there's Fritz and there's also a sister called Marie, but we're don't know much about them. Marie's funny. But after all of the boys' names, it's like Marie.

Addy. Fritz. Marie. It's just Marie. Their father, Christoph, worked in a shoe factory. And the town they lived in only had 4,000 people and most of the population worked at one of several shoe factories. So the town was already known for shoe making.

The younger brother, Addy, finished school and took up an apprenticeship as a baker to please his father, but really, he preferred sports and was quite a good athlete himself. He was also a bit of an entrepreneur, and in 1919, a bit after the First World War, which remember did not go great for Germany and resulted in widespread economic turmoil, he dropped out of baking and seeing a real gap in the market, decided to try and make shoes specifically designed for playing sport in. Oh. That's a new concept.

Yeah, the inference is that no one had thought of that, which is incredible. No, just like duct-taping bricks to their feet. Getting on the court. Two bread rolls. Oh, my God, it's as light as air. I mean, I can only play for two minutes at a time. Yeah, before that, there weren't mass-marketed shoes that were designed specifically for the sport that you were trying to, you know, be good at. So he correctly predicted that athletic success would improve with correctly constructed shoes.

Makes sense. I know. Makes perfect. Except you've got to protect the shoe, the feet, and the shoes, sure. Protect the shoes. Protect it all. Everything below the waist needs protecting. Above the waist?

Nah. No, whatever. Doesn't matter. Spare parts. He started making shoes at home in what is sometimes referred to as a shed and sometimes a laundry, so you get to choose your own adventure there. Could be both. Yeah, why not both?

The laundry shed. I've had a laundry shed before. You haven't had a laundry shed? I've had a laundry shed. No, but I've had a shed laundry. Okay. Oh. I think that's not nice yet again.

At a deep dean, that's how we do it. Have you ever had a shared shed laundry? No. You've had to share your shed laundry? Yeah. Sure have. Not officially. But I did anyway.

Come one, come all. Yeah. Yeah, why not? But we know he's at the back somewhere. Make a choos. He had gotten inspiration from visiting the shoe factory where his dad worked. But materials in post-war Germany were hard to come by. So in order to generate income, Addy repaired shoes for the citizens of his town.

And to make his own sports shoes, he used various materials originally made for military use. So whatever he'd get his hands on, he turned it into a shoe. You've got a tank. You've got a shoe. That's awesome. Yeah, it was unfortunate for the people that bought his cutting edge hand grenade shoes. They were a nightmare on the track. An explosive performance on the court tonight.

Fantastic. It was a pretty humble setup to begin with, a classic startup in the garage slash shed slash laundry going on. At the time, electricity in the town was unreliable. So Addy rigged up a stationary bike to create enough power to run the equipment to make their shoes. So he's literally using pedal power. Wow. Wait, who's on the bike? I think he's on the bike.

He's on the bike at the same time as making the shoes. I think on the sewing machine sort of powering it with his own. What a nightmare. No wonder they're sure. Shoes are so expensive. We're still paying for all the power that it took. Yeah, to this day, Adidas and Puma have people on bikes constantly. The first shoe, yeah, loads and loads of people just sitting around peddling,

frantically. The first shoe he made, incidentally, had to be for cycling. Yeah, it had to be. But to get it made. He's like, he's like, ticle shoes. Yeah, how do you get it made? Exactly. first the cycle shoe or the cycle.

The bike power. Yeah. Wow. I reckon he just wore the bread roll shoes to begin with it until he made the cycling shoes. What car? What do you think of like a Vienna loaf? Yeah.

Pipe loaf. Oh, sourdough is pretty durable. Oh, right. Saladadad, yeah. Something with a nice crust. I was thinking like a cob. Oh, yeah? Cobb's good as well.

You can either have like a soup be put in there. Right. Or you put your foot in. Certainly not a. Fluffy BAP. Not a BAP. No. You put the Baps away, please.

Yeah. Baps are better. Baps make better mittens. They do. Lovely mittens. And the cobloaf is, of course, short for cobbler. The cobbler. Oh, my God.

I didn't know that, but it all makes sense now. Listeners wouldn't have been able to see your jaw drop then, Matt, but I think they would have sensed it. He's still picking it up off the floor over there, actually. Wow. I came here to laugh, not to learn, Kirsty. Oh, we never learn here. The shoe manufacturing company initially had the catchy name

Gbruida Dasler Shoe Fabric. Just rolls off the tongue. Beautiful stuff, isn't he? That's a beautiful language. It translates as Dasler Brothers shoe factory. It was soon called GEDA or GEDA for short, GEDA. He sent free samples to local sports clubs and soon the orders started coming in.

Yeah, they did. They put the shoes on and went, oh, it is actually easier to run in these than a pair of cob loaves of bread. Can you believe it? Build it and they'll come. Yeah. At this time, Rudy, the older dastler, was forging his own life and training to be a policeman. But just as he was about to enter the workforce, he too dropped out and joined his younger brother's expanding business. And the two formed a creative and productive partnership.

Rudy, who was more outgoing, became the salesman of the company in charge of marketing. and the more reserved but sports performance inclined Addy stayed home and worked on the designs. What year are we in? This is just after the First World War, so early 1920s. Isn't that amazing? There have been modern Olympics without sports shoes. Yeah. The marathons are being run and they were in, what were they wearing?

Oh, sorry, coblos. Cobloafs. Yeah, coblots. Yeah, coblets. Yeah, coblets. You've covered this already. Yeah, mate, wake up. Sorry.

Also, as I'm about to say something and as I'm saying it, I'm like, no, I think you've made that up, Kirstie. Weren't the Olympics originally performed nude? Yeah, I think that's right. Like the ancient Olympics? But that's the ancient ones in ancient Greece. Yeah, yeah. But still, we've come a long way. Yeah.

It's fair enough that the shoes took so far up. In 1986, they were still nude feet. Yeah. They'd slowly clothe themselves from the head down. Yeah, so they started out. Yeah, they started out. the marathon with a balaclava and then like four years later with the scarf as well. Imagine putting a scarf on and thinking, yeah, I run faster in this.

Yeah. Yeah, aerodynamic. It doesn't cut through the wind in this. And anything flapping in the wind, I think makes you feel like you're on faster. Yeah, which you were, some people would have had a lot flapping in the wind at the Newtel Olympics. The first gold medalist, wow, I was flapping all over because I felt so fast out there. Yeah, the wind in your hair. and other bits and pieces.

Flap Central out there on the track today. So, yeah, the two brothers have teamed up. It's now a family business. Soon they had 12 employees making 50 pairs of shoes per day. Wow. Not bad. It's pretty good. But still, they struggled to get by until they were able to move to a factory

that allowed them to expand and make 100 pairs per day. So for a while, they're sort of making a loss. 50's not enough. From the shed laundry to the factory, they only doubled production. Yeah, yeah. They bought Nextdoor's laundry. Yeah.

Combined them. During this time, they created the first football or soccer shoes with leather studs. And importantly for the company, the first athletic track shoes with metal spikes. Oh. Addie was very excited to show off his new type of spiked shoe at the 1928 Amsterdam Olympics, where finally they were fully closed. German distance runner. Finally. Dave is a prude.

Yeah. You prude. Dave. I was looking away. You were not. It was disgusting. Other 28 games, German distance runner,

Lina Radke was given a pair of shoes with six spikes in each and absolutely smoked the field in the first women's Olympic 800-meter race, winning a gold and setting a world record. Great news, but then to quote from Britannica about this specific race, several runners collapsed at the end of the race.

Although male athletes also fainted after race, the International Olympic Committee concluded that the 800 metre run was too difficult for women and dropped it from the Olympic Games until 1960. Wow. That feels late. It does feel so late. Late to make that call. I should have to have it before the race. And not have to have all these women suffer.

That's right. Risk their lives to run 800 metres in one go. These feeble women. So does that mean that the max track event they could have done was 400 meters? Yeah, I think they're capped it at 400. And now they're out there doing marathons, they're voting. What? They're voting.

Really? When did that happen? A while ago. Okay. Are they fainting after that? Yeah. There's a lot of responsibility voting. Huge.

They're fainting from all the so many good options on the ballot. Yeah, they're like, oh no. Which one? I'm overwhelmed. Which one of these many great options? Yeah, I'm hysterical. So that's terrible for the female athletes of the Olympics. but for Addy, he had proved that his shoes were great for performance.

Yeah, and not fainting. Not for, exactly. Whoever put them on didn't faint. Yeah, that's good. That's a perk. Is there an asterisk next to this gold medalist? Sounds like it's basically performance enhancing, isn't it? It's unfair.

Don't everyone else is wearing cob loaves. Someone's got spiked brother shoes. They're like, these sourdough loaves are really poor. be back. Yeah, like the first gold medal for Usain Bolt when he was driving a V8 supercar. I thought that that was a bit unfair. It was pretty out of order. They said it's just new technology.

The best thing about the new shoes was the ducks weren't following them anymore. That's true. Yeah. No, I got it. Kirsty because of the bread shoes. Oh, okay, because bread's like, bread's like ducks. What? That's like ducks.

Yeah, see? Match when heaven. As they always say. As they always say. At the next Olympics in LA, 1932, more athletes wore the getter shoes and the business steadily increased from here. Always looking to improve his designs, Addy attended a shoe technical school in Permisons in Germany, a place which was world-renowned for its shoe production. It was during this time in this town that Addy married,

Katerina, the daughter of the renowned shoe-mold producer, Frank Martz. What a power move. He married into shoe royalty. That's a strategic move if ever I've seen one. Absolutely fantastic. That does sound like old school royal maneuvering, doesn't it? Big time. It's like looking up the yellow pages.

Like, who's in the shoe business and has a daughter? Who's listed under shoe king? Yeah, it's a shoe king. And does he have a daughter? Together, Addy and Katerina had five children, and she and the kids would play a big part in a future company's future. Oh, that's a big part. Like.

Wait, hey, did it say how many children? Five. Five children. That's heaps. That's strategic as well. You are literally reproducing to, what am I trying to say? Matt, I got lost in your eyes. I got lost in your eyes.

Well, I think you've got redundancies in there. Yeah, you're developing a staff team is what I'm trying to say. Potentially a board in the future. Yeah, or at least on the factory floor. You know, you've got options. Yeah, thank you. Or Queen Victoria style. Maybe you can marry them off into other shoe dynasties.

Yeah. You know, bring them all under one. It's strategic. You're not just popping out five children for lulls, are you? You're going, head of sales. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, who we got? We got the factory.

This is early succession, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've got two board votes each, yeah. Rudy Daslow, the older brother, also married. His wife was Friedel Strasser. Incredible name. Wow. And together they had a disappointing two children.

Friedel Strasser sounds delicious. Friedel's. Legit. Are you imagining something that comes with ice cream? Yeah, Apple, like Apple turnover sort of thing. It's got Apple in it for sure. Some sort of Apple strudel affair, most deaf. A big scoop of vanilla on the side.

Yes, please. Yes, please. I'll take the Friedel Strasser to go. Yeah, I'll get two. They're quite small. Yeah. So, they've got their own families, but they're still fortune together. This company, everything's great.

The partnership, it's perfect. You know, one sells the product, one creates the product. Match ran in heaven. The next Olympics was one of the most controversial to ever take place happening in Berlin under the Nazi regime, Hitler hoped to use the games to show off what he believed was the superior Aryan master race. Meanwhile, the Dastlers hoped to use the games to show off their shoes to the world

from their home country. A couple of pretty separate agendas there, I'm saying. I'm happy to say only one of these dreams came true. Because Hitler's belief about a superior race were absolutely shown to be bullshit when the Star of the Games was black American athlete Jesse Owens. Owens won four gold medals, 100 meters, the long jump, the 200 meters and the four by 100 meter relay. And guess whose shoes he was wearing? Hitler's. Hitler's?

Yeah. Walk a mile in my shoes. That was showing. How was he wearing Hitler's shoes? He was wearing Addy's shoes. Addy's shoes. That's right. The Star of the Games, wearing the shoes. It was a big event for the Dasler shoe company. In total, athletes wearing their shoes won seven gold, five silver and five bronze medals. So putting them on the map. It's pretty sick.

Also, just as a sidebar, sucked in Hitler. Yes. Sucked in Hitler. Yes. He went all in. He said it sucked in Hitler. I've been wanting to get that off my chest for ages. Fucked in Hitler.

He backed the wrong race, didn't he? Sucked in this Dund race of Aeris. And I don't think it's a real race. Like, mate, read a book. Yeah. It's not the 200 metre, the 400 metre, the Aryan. Sopton Hitler. And are other athletes still wearing non-sport shoes?

Cobletes. I think there's, I think overall, they're all wearing more sporty shoes now, but the best ones seem to be the dastler shoes. But also, Jesse Horns was the best athlete there. So might have won up regardless. Well, we'll never know. So they'd fitted Owens with shoes, but both brothers were members of the Nazi National Workers Party. Addie Dasler's website writes that they were pressured into joining as it was, quote,

a requirement if they wanted to remain in business and foremost among the motivating factors for the decision was their obligation to maintain job security for more than 100 employees. To refuse party membership would have negatively impacted the business and jeopardized the workforce. Honestly, sometimes you have to join the Nazi party for the betterment of others, okay? And I don't really want to go over this again. I'm so glad that you won't be going over it again. That is a hard one to sell. Even the brother who's the good salesman, I think he's going to struggle to get that one of the one.

Yeah, it does feel like... Honestly, what you've got to remember is it was good for business. Yeah, I mean, we had shoes to sell. Yeah. Okay? Oh, so we were Nazis. Oh, is that a problem? Yeah, we had cobloves to push out of business. All of a sudden people have problems with Nazis. Well, I've heard it all now. The site adds that he was never politically active, but, you know, it is a website dedicated to him, so maybe a little bit biased there.

Imagine if they just laid it all bare. They're like, look, he actually took to the party like a ducked to water. He was a real piece of shit. Which was ironic because his shoes weren't attractive. Ducks. Because they were made a bread. Yeah, that's written in brackets on the website. Bit of fun. So everything had been actually on the up and up for the business before the war.

They'd opened a second factory and we're producing now 1,000 pairs of shoes a day for 11 different sports. But things took a turn when Addie's older brother, Rudy, was drafted into the army in 1943, taking him away from the business. Again, from Addie's website, which might be. a bit biased. It says, in Rudolph's opinion, who's the older brother who's been sent away,

Addy did not possess the business acumen to lead the company. During his absence, he wanted to be informed about every business decision and additionally suggested that his wife,

Friedel, not the pie. Delicious. Delicious Friedel. My mouth is watering. With the side of ice cream. Yes, sorry. He can't talk about his wife

without people just zoning and thinking about how hungry they are. He suggested that his wife, Friedel Strasser, act on his behalf. Addie declined his brother's suggestion because it ran counter to their prior agreement that stipulated the remaining brother

would perform the duties of both owners. So the other brothers away being like, no, my wife should be acting on my behalf and then Adi's like, nah man, we have an agreement. I'm in charge when you're away. Yeah, your wife's too busy being a delicious dessert. You're going to leave here.

All I'm covered on the windowsill. Good luck. Having any of her left when you get back. Good luck in the war. You Nazi? Which I guess he was, right? Yeah, well, they both are. And he was fighting for the Nazis.

Not according to their website. While he was fighting as a Nazi, his heart really wasn't yet. Yeah, yeah. They're like, look, if you wouldn't mind just referring to his Nazi adjacent, that'd be great. They started sending letters back and forth and then became increasingly hostile. Meanwhile, back at home, things weren't easy for the remaining. brother Addy. The factory was soon ordered to make thousands of pairs of shoes for the army,

and soon like every factory in Germany, they were ordered to start producing weapons and parts for the war effort, effectively closing down the shoe business. I mean, all he wants to do is make shoes. Yeah. Well, all of a sudden, the Nazis aren't so good for business, are they? Hmm. Think about that.

First the Nazis give us, then they take it the way. As they say. As Kirsty often says. Absolutely not. I didn't realize that was your phrase. Fantastic. Adi, back at home, suspected it was his older brother, Rudolph, who had arranged the standstill to facilitate Adi's conscription into the war.

So they were very suspicious and paranoid about each other. He thought that it was Rudolph who'd signed up the factory, basically, to start making weapons instead of shoes, so that Adi would no longer have the excuse of, I can't go to the front. I'm making essential shoes and that he would have to go to the front too so that he could come back and take the business anyway

there's a few stories of animosity between the brothers at this time they're very paranoid of each other and apparently not even their grandchildren know the full reason for their rift but there's lots of theories and stories some of them are pretty fun one goes that during the war a growing rift between the pair reached a breaking point after an allied

bomb attack in 1943 when Addie and his wife climbed into a bomb shelter that Rudolph and his family were already in Addie apparently said, the dirty bastards are back again. Apparently, referring to the Allied warplains coming overhead, but Rudolph was convinced his brother meant him and his family of the dirty bastards. Wow.

What a minor misunderstanding. Like, it could have just been cleared up. Like, no, I meant the Allied forces. Well, if you'd be like, well, the Nazis are back again. Well, you are. They just fumed over it. This is the plot to every romantic comedy where, a simple misunderstanding could be explained if you just talk to each other.

One swift sentence? No, I meant those planes. But instead you're like, I'll just keep that under wraps and let them continue thinking. I'm having a crack at them. Yeah, I'll quietly fume for the rest of my life. After the war ended in 1945, Rudy, who'd been at the front, was arrested by the US to investigate his involvement in the Nazi party. And another story is that Rudy thought his brother Addy had either ratted him out and

reported his whereabouts or exaggerated his brother's role in the Nazi party in order for him to be arrested and be away from the company. Either way, Rudy was imprisoned for a year while the US investigated him. There's also another story that maybe Rudy, who insider dot com refers to as a known womanizer, may have hit on or hooked up with his younger brother Addie's wife and that that is why they fell apart. That's salacious. So lots of, you know, take your pick there, whichever one you want to. Oh, I mean, how do you choose? A real Sophie's choice, isn't it? Whatever happened, and things came to a head in 1948 when the brothers decided to split

the company, and they developed two completely separate businesses. Adi, first name his company, Adolf Dasler, special sport shoe production, AdAS, A-D-D-A-S. That was all, that was, yeah, that's longish. That's pretty long. That's a real old. school sort of name. Should have a word like swendipherous in there as well. Pretty annoying to print on the side of the show.

We only do size 15. For very obvious reasons. According to Addydustler.org, in 1949 when he registered his company, he added a handwritten letter I on the registration form because the name Addis, A-D-D-A-S, was already being used by a company that made children's shoes. So he decided to name the company Adidas, Adidas, Adidas. Adidas. Whoa.

What a reveal there. I didn't get where you were going until the last one. Can you believe it? And he had an early version of the now iconic three stripe logo ready as well. In 1948 Addy had developed a football shoe that incorporated three parallel straps that brought more stability to the shoe and foot. And those lines became developed into the company trademark. You know the sort of three. Can you imagine the three Adidas lines?

Yeah. Yeah, the three stripes. Yeah, yeah. So that was like, that's pretty early. It's been around for seven and a plus years. And it was just like a, it was a practical thing at first. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, I'll make them to the logo.

It's a great logo. Iconic. It is iconic. You can recognize it a mile off. Yeah. I'm a big fan of the Adidas shoe. Oh, yeah. You, uh, you, do you own any Adidas?

I have lots of Adidas shoes. I always wear their like handball shoes, like just for streetwear, you know? Oh, yeah. I'm a cool guy. Why? Why handball? They're just the ones that I like, the style that I like. Nice.

Yeah, they're good. Are you an Adidas wearer? I don't know if I've ever owned a pair of Adidas. Are you serious? I don't know. I have. How could you not? I'm wearing Nike's right now?

Run DMC when they had that. What was that big 90s song they had? It's like that. Yeah, it's tricky. And that's the way it is. Is it that one? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I've got a. Has that got anything to do with anything? Or did we just go into that for no... But no, when that came out, I reckon that must have boosted their sales a lot. I've got a bit about Rundamsian this. Yep. What did they have in...

Were they wearing... Oh, were they wearing the shell toes? Yes, yeah, yeah, that's right. I've always had a pair of shell toes. You are big on Adidas. What about... I'm a huge on Adidas. Have you ever owned a pair of pumas?

Yeah, yep. I went through a phase in high school where I had pumas. I remember your parents saying, geez, I think she'll grow out of this. It's just a phase, just a Puma phase. We're cool with her being gay, but the Puma shoes, that's too much. That's the bridge too far. We're an Adidas family, please.

You know our beliefs in Adidas. We love Adidas, we love handball. The two things that bind this family together. I wore Puma because I'm pretty sure I was allowed to, like they're a bit cheaper than Nike's and Adidas, And so I'm pretty sure my parents bought me pumas when I was in year seven and eight until I got a job and could afford splurgeon on some Adidas and Nike shoes to be real cool, you know. I was way more Puma than Adidas.

I don't think I've ever had any Adidas either. But we near Marabin, or maybe even in Marabin, there's a puma factory. So that was why it was a bit of a go-to, you know, factory seconds and whatever. Oh, yeah. You'd be able to, is it still there? I think it is, yeah. Wow. You'd be able to get way cheap ones there, hey.

Yeah, yeah. I live on that side of town. Maybe I'll go peruse. Maybe I'll cast my jaundice die over the pumer factory outlet. What a puba factory? I never... I don't think I've owned... I had pumer shoes either, but I did once Puma pants.

Sorry, I did once have Puma pants. Maybe the 12th man was the Dave Warnockie. We met along the way. Dave, you've basically like said that you haven't worn any kind of shoe. Have you got coblo? You're sticking with the cubs. You look in the bottom of my cupboard at home

and my bedroom, it's just like different. Smells like a bakery. Yeah, it smells fantastic. It would too. Yeah, no, thank you so much. Do you have any fritzisch noodles? What if her name was? Friedel strasser.

Fruit of strata. Oh, yeah. Yum. Right. No, but that's for the week. I only wear my fridel strassers on Saturday and Sunday afternoon. It's evening wear. Yeah.

My fancy, but that's for like a gala dinner, isn't it? Let me slip into something more comfortable. A freelo streaks of the toes. So meanwhile, older brother Rudy established shoe fabric Rudolf Dasler, known as Ruder. Ruda. Ruda. Oh.

Ruda. But a few months later, he changed the name to Puma. Helmut Fisher, who today is, was a great name. I love Helmut Fisher. And Helmut Fisher in particular is great. Incredible. Today he is senior advisor. as a general manager at Puma.

He grew up next to the Puma founder, Rudolph Dassler. And today, Helmut Fisher is known as Mr. Puma. Oh. And he's a historian for the company because he's been there since the start. Mr. Puma. And he knows a lot about them. He said, when it came to the name, Rudy Dessler wanted something more aggressive. He summed up the characteristics that make a great athlete, fast, spirited, agile, able to leap and pounce.

And then it came to him, Puma. Oh. These are the qualities that he wanted his shoes to embody. Could have been Panther as well. Panthers are a great name too. Like, yeah, chairman of new panthers shoes. Sorry, I lost faith half I thought. I don't know why I didn't back myself, but it turned into a feeble with my.

I'm not the marketing salesman that Rudy is. He'd be out there being like, oh, yeah. Panther pants. You've got to get some Panther pants. Panther pants. Panther pants. Panther pants. It works.

Get it? To go to your Panther pants. Choo. Panther Pan. Can't spell panther without pant. Wrax itself. The copy there. So Rudy chose Puma and he adopted a logo of a Puma jumping through the letter D.

That was the original logo. Ah. Hang on. What's the D for? Where's the D? I guess his last name, Dessler. Okay. Oh.

You said it. It's tenuous. Yep. So he's still, The brand's called Puma, but he's still worked in DASLA. Somehow. Somehow. Just D.

Just the D. We're assuming that the D stands for Dessler. Oh, that's true. It could have just been a Puma zooming through the D for Dick. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, real madder sort of stuff. Is that what matter means?

I'd have to look it up. You know what D for dick, bro? Am I right? Panther going through a dick. It's the only other word I could think of it starts with D. D, D, D, I was sitting right here. I know. It was a bit, you didn't know him.

No. Yeah. But he did know. But he did know dick. He did no dick. So you imagine the logo today of, of, for Puma. It's just like the silhouette of a Puma. You know what I'm talking about?

Yeah, I know you're talking about. That logo. Gersy saw one in the Otways. Panther. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Which, incidentally, am I brain, you should. Your vision you saw in the Otways was a pair of shoes.

It was a pair of shoes. It was a pair of Panther shoes. That's what makes it so unbelievable because they haven't been invented yet. Pumas are different, but they are also, I wanted to talk about this, also known as Cougars, Mountain Lions. Oh, no, and Panther. I didn't read that. Yeah, they're all different names.

Mountain lions? Yeah. The only extant species. is the cougar, sometimes known as the Puma, the mountain lion, the panther, among other names. So you can call it whatever you like. Yeah, they're hippo, the rhino. The fish.

Oh, no, I saw the Otway fish. People are like, no, you didn't. No one's seen a fish around these parts for years. It was huge. It was just up there in the bush on the side of the mountain. I wonder if that means that would they have the rights for all those, because they've called them Puma. do they have the rights to all those brand names then?

Can't call a sporting shoe mountain lions because they're the same animal. I wonder. Wow. I don't understand copyright law. Yeah, I'm glad you're raising this though because I was about to do my soft launch tomorrow of my panthers. So I might have to reconsider. I was thinking that like it feels weird that there isn't a sporting brand called panther, but maybe that's why.

Maybe they've got in there. They've owned them all. I don't know. Wow. But the logo we know today, though, I'm talking about was created in 1967. Caricaturist Lutz, Lutz. Back was assigned to design a new Puma cat logo. Helmut, remember, Mr Puma, who knows everything?

Helmut Fisher. Helmut Fischer remembers that Lutzback was offered a scent of every Puma item sold with his logo, but he decided to charge the company 600 marks up front for the job. Thought you meant smell for a second there. I'm like, how does that work? A scent from every. I'm like, what is it? Like, genuinely for quite a few seconds, I'm out of, what are you?

What is this deal? We've just sold this pair of shoes, mate. If you could run down and give them a quick sniff before they go out the door, that'd be great. Some new bags have come in and want to give them a quick sniff. If you want to come in, just one quick sniff, because you know the deal. Obviously, one, only one. Not two. Come on.

Not two. Sorry, did you, uh, did you just inhale twice? That was a double sniff. That was a double sniff. That's not the deal. It's one cent per item. You're stealing from the company. Like, it's quite obvious to, that.

what you meant was money sense, but it took me so long. Oh, man. So the point where you said smell, I was like, what are you even talking about? This is like, this is Matt's call for help. Oh, that's so good. The same as when you said helmet fissure. I'm just picturing like a cracked helmet, but it's fissure probably S-A-G-R, is it? It's S-C-H-E-R.

Oh, like I just, my brain is. A-L-L-Fisher. Yeah, I can't. The worst fissure of all. What are the other ones? That's the only one I know. See, not because I, but that's the one people talk about, which makes sense because... Yep, yep, yep.

Yeah, sorry, sense is in S-E and S-E. I'm just hearing everything in the wrong version of the hominom order. Yeah, Matt doesn't understand the concept of a homophone. Homophon, sorry. What's a ho-oh, yeah, man. Matt's a homophobe? What? You can't hear words either.

All right, I'm going to have to start spelling out every word I say. This is a worst podcast ever. No one understands. It won't anyone say it. So I'll just recap. He's asked to design a logo and they said, you can have one cent, C-E-N-T, one-hundredth of a dollar.

This is a great deal. For every item that has your logo on it. But he says, nah, I'd prefer 600 bucks up front. And I'm happy with that. Yeah, that's a nightmare. He also got a pair of shoes and one sports bag.

Oh, that's a... Wow. I'd call that a bad deal. Mr. Pugh. Humor. Terrible. Okay, Helmut Fisher. Helmutstimates that Lutz would have become a multi-millionaire

if he had agreed to receive commissions instead of this one-off payment. 600 mark. But also, I bet you, if he signed that deal, they're changing the logo pretty soon. Yeah, because the logo, he designed remains virtually unchanged to this day. So there you go. They would have tweaked it and said, oh, void, sorry, contracts void. It now has a big nose. It's the same.

It's got a fish. A clown nose. They're like, it does look way worse, but we don't have to pay you now. Yeah, it looks awful, and we can barely sell any items now, but it's worth it. Got you. So the two brothers have split, a big rivalry develops very quickly, and the rivalry had wide-reaching effects on their town. Herzegunach, I can't even say. Historian Manfred Welker estimated that at the time, at least one of the time, at least one

person in every family in the town was employed by one of the two companies. Wow. And the breakup between the brothers literally split the town in half, with each business taking up headquarters on opposite sides of the river Orak that went through the middle of town. Wow. You're either a Montague or a capulet. Exactly.

They split them up so hard. Employees of the two companies did not speak to each other. They also went to separate stores, separate barbershops, bars and bakeries. Wow. This is like when my neighbourhood got a hungry jacks and a McDonald's. Which team were you on? Humbergues for life. Hungry dacks all the way.

Yeah. So they've sort of, yeah, it's this weird, like just after having this war that split the country, Berlin split in half at this point probably. Is that happened yet? No. Okay. Thank you, God. Thank God.

It's, add that to the list of things. I'm not sure about. Historical timeline. The shorter list of things I'm sure about. It's very short list. There's nothing on it. But yeah, maybe this is what inspired the Berlin Wall. They're like, look at this.

I'd say so. The runners. The running divide. It's not that long after this. Maybe they're like, yeah, this wall works. This divide works. Barbara Smith's book on Adidascent Puma called Pitch Invasion. describes how the town became known as the town of bent necks due to residents,

always looking down at a person's shoes before deciding whether to talk to them. So look at your feet and you go, are you a Puma or an Adidas? My family's Puma. You're wearing Adidas. I'm not going to talk to you. Wow. Bloods and Crips. Yeah.

Like a full uniform. This is like my high school. Like if you weren't wearing like Nike's in year eight, you weren't hanging out. And you're in the Pumas in that year eight from what you're saying. I was. I was just socially acceptable. Okay.

Because I had pumas and jokes. Oh, okay. If I'd only had pumas. Yeah, exactly. If I'd just had pumas. Or maybe just had jokes. If I'd just had jokes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

To really add up to one knocky. That's exactly right. For a bit of social clout. Sounds tough on the Canberra high school streets. Mean streets of Stromlo High School. Yeah. We all have to wear the same black leather shoes. That's sick.

That is ideal. Like, when I went to Year 11 and 12 in Canberra, it was a totally different school again. And so we had a dress code in high school, like white on top and navy blue or black on the bottom, and then whatever shoes. Oh, that's way better. These shoes were not comfortable. I'd wear them working at Safeway, pushing trolleys. I'd wear them seven days a week, you know. And they would just, yeah, you know, like, what do they call, like those Stanleys or whatever that brand is of...

Clarks? Clarks, that's what I. Oh, Clarks. Clarks, school shoe, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sort of like a chunky leather, almost like square on the bag. Yeah. So they still make kids wear them because it's like, it feels like they're from a time before Adidas' invented shoes. Yeah, comfortable shoes.

I reckon it went like cobloaf, Clark, Adidas. That's right. That was the evolution. And I'm old enough that I was there just as the cobloves were turning into class. It was a great day. We were like, this is a step up, but geez. Did you all gather on the streets and eat your cobloves together? Stale cobs.

Yeah, you brought some dip out onto the streets and just chowed down. Until that point, we had to bake a new pair of shoes every three days. Oh, my, that would have been hell. Yeah, that was an hour man. Wait for your shoes to rise. Mine didn't rise. Just walking around on a flat pizza base. Yeah, yeah.

I had a rough one on the 100 metres today because I forgot to put enough yeast in my life. So yeah, the whole town's divided. Former Puma CEO, Jacquesin Zites recalled, when I started at Puma, you had a restaurant that was a Puma restaurant, an Adidas restaurant, a bakery. The town was literally divided.

If you were working for the wrong company, you wouldn't be served any food. You couldn't buy anything. So it was a kind of odd experience. experience. That is so strange. It's so weird. Yeah.

It's like, who cares? Who really cares? And just so adamantly taking the side of one of the brothers like, because that's essentially what it is, because it's just a feud, right? They've taken the side of the brother and even the grandchildren don't know what the feud is over. So how do you know who's on a side with? Yeah, and to have such loyalty to a brand?

I'm on this side of the river. So is Adidas. I'll just go here, I guess. It's also wild that this one, what's the population there? This is wild, like two of the most iconic. sports brands ever. Yeah. In this one town. At this time, it's probably under 10,000. Yeah, amazing. Wow. 5,000 each.

Yeah. Imagining it's absolutely split down the door. And every birth, every baby, they're like, all right, you're an Adidas. Next one. All right, you're a Puma. Wow. Sorting hat. The sorting hat. Yeah. Getting sent away from home as a baby. Oh, yeah. I'm afraid you've given birth to a Puma. No, we're an Adidas family. Coming out to your family as a teen. I just feel like, mum and dad I need to talk to.

There's something I've been hiding within me for quite some time. And I just want to be up front about it. I'm with Adidas. But we're a Puma family. I'm a three stripper. Don't get upset, Trevor. It's probably a phase. She'll grow out.

They'll grow out of it, surely. Not under my roof. Addie Dustler continued to painstakingly design and crudely. his shoes and his wife, Katarina, stepped into his brother's former role of brand, face and representative. The partnership translated into great business success. Into his 50s, Addy practiced numerous sports disciplines himself, simply to obtain insight needed to develop the perfect shoe technology to athletes and develop shoes for track and field athletes, football players, tennis players, Nordic skiers, boxes, basketballers, bowlers and even fences.

So he would just try that sport. himself in their shoes, walk a mile, and then work out how to, you know, improve the sport. Wow. Wow. That's, yeah, that's awesome. The fact that he was able to do that is pretty impressive, assuming he was doing a good job at him. He's like fencing, he's real bad. He's like, I think I know what they need. Yeah. And sorry about your eye. I'm going to put, so be there, right. I'm putting wheels on these ones. Yes, if only had wheels. Puma was also developing their own shoes. To this day, both companies' official history,

which you can go on, the Adidas history, Puma history of their websites, they both claim they were responsible for the first screw-in studs in the bottom of shoes, debuting in the 1950s. I'm not sure who was first, but both companies had big success on the world stage in 1954. The German national team beat what had previously been described as the unbeatable Hungarian football side in the World Cup final, And you better believe it, they were wearing Adidas football boots. Well, this is all quite interesting for me because I actually put some screwing studs in some shoes in 1949.

Whoa. Oh, my gosh. This blows this whole thing right open. Yeah. So that'll be a third division in the town. Oh, my God. You're taking north or south? Where are you going?

I'm going to go south with the weebecler side of the weebeckler. The weebeckler side of the town. Also sounds delicious. Not too bad. What a... Dollop cream. Now, you didn't confide with any sort of German types with your idea, did you? The time?

Well, there was one mysterious stranger who I shared a drink with in a pub once. Yeah. And talked about my revolutionary idea with, um, rude, rude, Rudolph maybe, Rudy. Oh my God. Rudy. Is he the Puma guy? He's the Puma guy.

Oh my God. That dog. That absolute dirty dog. He told me that chat was completely in confidence. Oh my God. I'm furious. I'm furious. What a piece of shit.

Oh, Webeckler. Webeckler. He's got to be in your millions. Is Webeck German? It's got a bit of a German soundt. Yeah, it is. Yeah, VEbec. I like it.

You've tried to make it more German by putting the lure at the end. Webeckler. Yeah, I did. I did. Well, do you know what's funny is that, and by the way, it's German a very long time ago. Like, I don't have any direct relatives that are German. I don't know how ancestry works, but anyway. Any who were in Germany and say 39 to 45-ish?

Absolutely not. I also have a... Not for hundreds of years. I've also got a German surname, and I also am always very quick to point out that the Warnocky that came out from Germany to Melbourne came out in like about 1890. I'm always always always very good. Are you happy to point that out? Yeah, yeah.

Oh my gosh, years ago. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Whenever the war started, my family came out much, much before that. Months before. Yeah, I don't know anything about family trees. No, but it's, we don't have any direct links to Germany. So guilty now, but I'm not.

I love it. We're both defensive. I'm not. I know. Anyway, where Stuart from? Yeah, come on, mate. That's your real name. Where were you in 39?

Stuvart. Do you know whenever people will introduce me on stage if they, like, haven't asked me how to pronounce my surname? I reckon 80% of them go French. Oh. They're like, please welcome to stage. Kirsty, we're back. We're back. Le, we're back.

We're back. That's, yeah, that's not bad. Well, that's another cover story you can have for your... French, we are. For your shady history. Oh, we're back. My go-to that people, when they mispronounce my name, is they go more U.S. football coach, get in there, Warnacki. Warnacki.

Warnacki. Wow. That sounds so tough. Wernicke. Wernicke. I love it. Warnacky. Yeah.

All right. Yeah. That warnecky, he's okay. Yeah, he's got it. He's got it. You got this, Warnacki. Warnacki. I actually really love that.

Yeah, and the trailblazes pick, and the sixth pick of the second round. Dave Warnacki. Your life could have been so different. I know. You could have been a jock. I know. Nomative determinism made me a nerd. Only because my name is pronounced Warnake.

That's the only thing holding me back from athletic success. Warnacki. I've never owned a pair of humus, never owned a pair of Adidas. Clearly a sporty type. My. Yeah, that's true. You're like Nike? Nope.

Wearing Clarks till this day. So, yeah, they won the World Cup wearing Adidas as screw-in. studs, but the same year, Heinz Futterer broke the 100-meter world record in Yokohama, Japan, whilst wearing Puma running shoes with studs in a time of 10.2 seconds. I think it had more to do with his surname, if I'm honest. That's nominative determinism. Yeah, footererah. My money's on footerer.

You just put one footer in front of the other. Puma had more athletic success in 1960. Arm and Harry won Olympic gold in a hundred metre sprint, wearing pumas. Ethiopian runner Abepe Bakila, who I have done a whole episode on in the past, and who won the 1960 Olympic marathon running barefoot, backed up his title and won the 1964 Olympic marathon this time wearing Pumas.

So they got, they signed him, they got him. Oh, yeah. And he got a better time in shoes than without? That's a great ad for Puma, isn't it? Even better than Barefoot. Huh? You know what Barefoot's like? This is probably better than that.

Yeah. This is better. Probably. And he won in Barefoot, so. What a freak. I forgot about him. Yeah. Great name. A great runner.

Couchy, Matt. Double threat. Double threat. A bebe? A bebe. A bebe. What a name. I love it.

So Puma were kicking their own goals, but on paper Adidas was a bigger company. In the 1960s, Adidas numbered 550 employees and were the world's largest producer of sports shoes. By the end of the decade, the brand, with the three stripes, operated 16 factories and produced 22,000. pairs of shoes per day. That's more than 50. Yeah. They've pumped that right up. Yeah.

Addadus pumps. What did I like that? I think it was Reebok pumps, mate. Well, who? Who did that? Do you remember? There was a point when I was in primary school where

the shoe manufacturers were all trying to revolutionize laces. So there were pumps. another brand was the discs. Was it Puma discs? Yeah. And you'd turn a dial to tighten your shoes. That is silly.

And apparently I think that like there are a couple of Olympians that won gold medals wearing them. Oh, right. The Dixen people are wearing these discs. I'd never heard of them looking through this. You better believe that's in the Puma history timeline. Yeah, there was a kid at school definitely who came. Yeah, I think they were quite expensive to produce because there's a lot of stuff going on inside to make it so it's actually tied around your foot when you turn the disc.

They are incredibly heavy. There's robotics. There's mechanics. You need a V8 engine under there. Yeah, unfortunately they're full of metal and conveyor belts. A combustion engine. That's right. A combustion engine.

Yeah, there's a locomotive. You'll see some steam coming up the top. Don't worry about that. It's meant to do. What they are lack in aerodynamics. They make up for. You can spin a wheel. I mean, they are too heavy to move in, but think about how much time you will save, not having to tie up your laces.

Yeah. It'll be so good. That's, I didn't know about the discs. I knew about the pumps. Also, this is not from the shoemakers themselves, but did you get those curly shoelaces? Oh, yeah, I remember that. You just pulled. Yeah.

You just pulled them. You didn't have to do them up. You just pulled them. And then what happens? Well, they'd stop because they're curled. Because they were curly. they'd just stop. It's like a one-wave out.

You pull them and they'd straighten. Yeah, so when you're... And so when you're... You're holding them like a long string. And then you let go and then you let go and they curl back up. And so therefore they just stop in the eyelids on your shoes. I've fully forgotten about them. They were sick.

And we need to bring them back. Yeah, they were rad. And it's time for them to come back is what I'm saying. I'm on Google Images and this is the craziest thing I've ever seen. And I've seen disc shoes. Yeah, but Dave, why, look, this is probably rhetorical for you because I don't know if you had a hand in it, but why did they go? Yeah. Like, it's a genius invention.

Did you have a hand in it, Dave? Yeah, has this got anything to do with you? I'm so sorry that I ruined this for you. I didn't think that anyone liked him. Everyone liked them, Dave. They are so, honestly, I'm giving them a second chance. Dave, what the hell everyone loved them. I loved them.

I currently don't have any. I would like them to come back. Bring them back. This is like if you just decided tomorrow that, like, cars aren't as convenient as people thought. they were. All right, cars are over. Cars are off. Turn them off.

I think that one could be a good one. Get rid of cars. I mean, for carbon emissions, sure. But Matt, come on, mate. No, I think it's time we move to the tube system that you see in futuristic cartoons. Yeah, but we don't have the technology. Oh, we don't have tube technology. Come on.

We just don't have the will. Governments are too stuck in their own cycles. Oh, we need to get a left. and they know tubes don't get votes. Doesn't mean they're not right. Doesn't mean they're not right. No one said they're wrong. Oh, I would love nothing more than to be teleported back to the bay right now.

Not right now, once we finish doing this, rather than... In the second podcast, ejector seat. I've just said, this sucks. Matt just got a bit too angry about the tube system. Imagine that you go, you just sell the tube, voice activated, Puma factory, marabin. I love it. You hope they don't misunderstand?

Puma factory. Also, I love that you chose that as my final destination. You know me all too well because I'm absolutely going there on the way home. Yeah. Even though it is not on the way home. I'll do it too for Puma. So Adidas are bigger, but they're making shoes. Up until the 1960s, they were very much just a shoe company.

They sold a couple of branded bags, but shoes, they're the bread and butter. but Addy was always looking forward, so to speak. Yeah. Not literally, we've moved beyond bread for shoes. In the olden days, butter was like socks. You'd butter off your feet. You butter on the inside. Yeah.

Slide them into some cobs. Everyone's feet were lovely and soft in the olden days. Lovely. Beautiful buttered up feet. No petty eggs required. No petty egg to be seen. That's why petty eggs are a new invention. I only come in since...

They didn't need them. Yeah. Since we started wearing like socks made out of cotton instead of butter. Yeah. So they're a shoe company but Addy was always looking for other ways to innovate and his son, Horst Dessler. Another great name.

That's like there with Fritz for me, Horst. Horse is sick. That's a great name. Horse was experimenting with some clothing in the French market and it seemed that there was potential for technical sportswear which athletes could warm up train and compete in. The outfits were made from a fabric that was about to change the world. nylon.

Whoa. Dun dunn. What is nylon? Is that like a petroleum? Yeah, it's like an artificial. What is nylon made from? Nylon fabric is a polymer, which means that it is composed of a long chain of carbon-based molecules called monomers.

There are quite a few different types of nylon, but most of them are derived from polymede monomers that are extracted from crude oil, which is also known as petroleum. There you're at. Isn't that? What a... Yeah. That feels weird. So we're making clothes out of oil.

Yeah. It also feels elaborate. Because why don't we just cover our bodies with the oil directly? Yeah. That's true. Like, why aren't we just rubbing crude oil on our bodies? Let's move back to the... I mean, butter is an oil-like substance.

Exactly. Let's go back to those beautiful days. The glory days of just rubbing yourself down with oil. Yeah. Fats are oils Beautiful One size fits all Beautiful

There's no Oh they don't have anything in my size There's always the right size in oil Exactly How much do you need? Just one douse please Oh no worries Right this way

Real healthy and day stuff there Yeah You can't oil anything anymore No you can't They won't let you I've tried Yeah I've tried to get into a restaurant Before just doused in crude oil

And Oh, gee, they call the fuss about it. Wouldn't let me in. I reckon I was going to slip off the seats. And you see, like, Just let me have a try. I'll prove you wrong. My grip strength is second to none.

I blame the animal rights type activists, you know? Even you ever see a whale try to douse itself in oil? They're always down there cleaning it straight off. It's a nightmare. Let the whales live. Give the whales a break. I don't know how we. here now, but we are

because we don't have that tube system in place yet and there's no ejecta see in this podcasting studio. We're talking nylon truck suits. Yeah. They had the idea of producing a technical warm-up suit made from a nylon wool mixed material that could replace the heavy wool

and cotton pullovers that were being worn by athletes. Before this, athletes are getting out there in wool. It's a bit hot. Do you know what would be lighter and cooler than wool? No. Dousing themselves in crude oil. And we're back here. And the beauty is they could release like, oh, it's our new line of sport oil, you know?

Yes. And they just, or maybe have racing stripes in it or whatever. Yes. That would be a slightly lighter oil. Well, speaking of stripes, the tracksuit they came out with had the three added off stripes in blazing down the arms and the legs. Wow. In 1967, the Franz Beckenbauer track suit debuted, named after and modeled by Bayan Munich football superstar Franz Beckenbauer. Franz Beck and Bauer, it was an immediate success.

Do you know what? They're back with a vengeance at the moment. The three. The Back and Bauer ones. They're like all the rage again. It's amazing, isn't it? Yeah, and they're amazing. They're so sick, those tracksuits.

Is that the Alexi Toliopoulos style? You know, he has a few that he gets around. He's got a couple of matching sets, absolutely. Previous guests? I think that you're talking about the same ones here. Yeah, I think that's the back and bow. I actually didn't know that that was the name of it. No, I didn't know.

They added us three striped track suits. Well, no, but there is just a generic one, and then the back and bowers are a specific kind. Gotcha. Of it's like another, it's a subgenre of the regular, because I've got a few like Alexis, but they're not back and bowers. Right, gotcha. But they're also got three stripes. They're also sick. They've just got a different name.

Yeah. Yeah. They're like part of a different range. What a great episode to have Kirsty in on, Dave. Did you have any idea that she was a big Adidas fan? A big Adidas fan. I'm a huge Adidas fan. From the Adidas dynasty.

Yeah, I am. You're not wearing Adidas now, yeah? Do you know, really, weirdly, I'm actually not. Actually, I've got an Adidas t-shirt on. You're kidding me. No, I'm getting it out for the boys. Oh, yes! Yeah, I've got an Adidas tea.

That's a great. That logo is great as well. The sort of leaf. The trefoil logo is my favorite one. Yeah. up here in the 70s. But I usually, I actually get bagged out by other comics a lot. People always go to me, oh, you sponsored by Adidas, Webeck?

Because I very frequently have Adidas clothes on. And I always have Adidas shoes on on stage. Right. Yeah. It's a bit of a just a luck thing or, or just that's just what you wear? I just like, I just really like the clothes. So I've got loads of them. I've got loads of track jackets.

Like, I just love them. My favorite hoodie when I was a kid, My uncle used to work at a printing factory. And so they had, one time I was there and he's like, oh, here's some ones that didn't quite work. And one of them was, it was like this black hoodie. And it had that symbol big on the middle with sort of like, just like this mixed pattern throughout it, which I guess was wrong.

But it looks sick, I thought. Yeah. And I wore that until it fell apart. I reckon I worked for like five years, which, you know, when you're six to 11, it's a big growth period. Yeah. It was midriff by the time you said. Such a great hoodie.

I love this stuff. Man, this episode, I know when we've done like KFC and McDonald's episodes in the past, people message later going, you really got me thinking about and I was driving home. I had to get a KFC meal. This one, people are going to like, I was driving home, but I thought, I'm going to detour via Marabin. I was actually on the way to Aubrey Widonga, but I went by a Puma. To get Puma.

I've got Nike. I've got Adidas socks on two, by the way. This is incredible. Adidas soon started to produce track suits specifically designed for women. The Heidi Rosendahl was named after one of Germans track and field stars of the Munich 1972 games, which was the same games that the Adidas, trefoil logo that Kirsty is wearing right now. Current is boring.

So last year, 50 years of the trifloyal logo. That's my favourite one. So who came up with that and did they take a deal? One cent per item or anything like that? That person hasn't been named, which makes me think that they did not get a good deal. Yeah, they were probably just on the... Yeah, just someone who got paid for a day's work, probably something like that. Yep.

You'll never believe it, but Puma also debuted their own track suit in 1968, only one year after Adidas, seeing how successful it was, called the T7. They're also still sold to this day. You can get a Puma T7 track suit. What's there? So they don't. don't have the three stripes. What do they do? Do they just have the, um, the pumas down the sleeve? I think they have a solid stripe down the, down the sleeve, sort of breaking up. Like, if you

wear a black track jacket, you'll have a big white stripe down the, down the sleeve. That's solid. Puma T7, yeah. Yeah, Puma T7. I'm having a quick peek here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You still see football players and stuff wearing those. Yeah, they're pretty cool. Yeah, would you wear that or are you Adidas for life. No, look, I don't have any opposition to those and I'm looking at some now and there's some pretty sick designs on here. What was the name of the Adidas guy?

The Adidas style of suit? Franz Beckenbauer. Franz Beckenbauer. They're pretty cool. The Puma ones are pretty cool. I'm pretty married to Adidas though. I think I've got five Adidas track jackets. Wow. And I've got probably

five or six like wind breakers. Like, because I'm always, like, I love going for big walks and I live down by the beach. So I've got this unhealthy obsession with buying windbreakers. It needs to stop. Just in case my partner's listening, I want her to know that I'm acknowledging that it needs to stop. I have a problem, okay? That's the first step. I've acknowledged it.

And now I'm going to buy another one. I've been acknowledging it for years and I'll continue to acknowledge it. So I'm on the right path. Absolutely. But these Puma ones are. Cool, but yeah, I'm pretty married to Adidas. Yeah, that's fair enough. Yeah, thanks.

Yeah, I get it. I appreciate that. You find something you know and love. Totally. Once you get Dave's tick of approval, you're good to go. Well, I'm just going to order a couple more windchaders and just flip my partner and I got the DW stamp of approval. It gets so windy down there. It gets so windy down there, mate.

And we'll still on the beach. Got him. What does that mean? Oh, nothing. late in the episode to get horny. Yeah, come on. I'll tell you what, this was a rough episode to make horny. I've got to be honest.

Yeah, unless you're a foot fetishist, it's tricky. We've got a couple in there, probably more than you'd probably predict it beforehand, but anyway. In 1970, Adidas debuted another iconic invention. I didn't know about this. I didn't know they created this. The Adidas Telstar, which is the iconic 32 panel alternating black and white design. football or soccer. Oh, that's like the soccer ball.

Yeah, the one like that you, in a cartoon, they're kicking a soccer, that's an add-ed-ass. Kicking a soccer. Kicking a soccer. You are a sporty boy, aren't you? You're a sporty guy. You can, you can join my soccer team if you like. Thank you. It's my pleasure.

We genuinely need players. So if you like to be on my soccer team, please. Do you need a waterboy? Schoolkeeper. Do you need a commentator? Imagine if you came to all the games on a Wednesday night and commentators. Yeah, yeah, right. But like, no, Dave, we needed players.

Like, put the microphone down, Dave. I've got the headset mic on. A little affordable thing. Go, go, go, go, go. Here comes, we're back. It's Webeck, Dave. It's Webeck. If you're going to commentate, say my name right.

Well, they've got a French import tonight. We're back. That's taken to the field. It was the ball was designed to improve visibility on black and white television, and its name came from the 1962 Telstar Communications satellite, which was roughly spherical. and dotted with solar panels, similar to how it appears.

Isn't that so nerdy? It's named after a satellite. Who came up with that? That's cool. Used for the 1970 football World Cup, Adidas has since provided the official match ball for every World Cup since. Wow.

I've got the Brazuka at home, the one from the Brazil World Cup a few years ago. Oh, the brazuka. Great name. Love it. What year was that? That must have been probably about 10 years back, maybe. Why have you got a soccer ball?

Paul Day, Matt, what's your name? Who are you? Where am I? Jess. Hey, Matt, why have you got a soccer ball? I just got, I got one of each balls at home just in case, you know, whenever you want to go out for a kick for the various sports. I'm trying to recruit him to my soccer's.

That was good. That one. That's cool. He's shown us a real cool ball. I had one from the. Look up the brazuka. I don't know if it had a fancy name, but one from the 2002 soccer world cup, which was like a golden sort of ball.

Do you want to look that one up? The brazookas from 2014. Oh, okay. 2002. Why have you got a soccer ball? Oh, yeah, right. This is all I do in my free time is try and recruit people to my soccer team. That's a, good looking ball.

That's why I bought it was a good looking ball. All right, all right, you're not appropriate for my soccer team. Never been pumped up. That's called the February. Oh, fancy. Oh, Fevronova, sorry. Fevronova. Fevronova.

You're wrong. I'll take that. I think that sounds better than Fevronov. Fevronov sounded like something. Sounds like a weapon to me, like a gun. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the brazuka's like a pro. Yeah, I mean, what does the brazuka sound like?

No, I can't think of anything. It doesn't sound like any weapons that I can think of. Yeah, yeah. There's a new word. They went around the room and they said, does this make you think of a weapon at all? Yeah, no. No. Peace of the Soccer World Cup.

I think it's reminding me of numtucks. I think that's what it is. 1970 was another pivotal year in the rivalry between the two brothers' companies. Before this era, there'd been a few sponsorships with individual athletes. But in the early days, they'd been a bit murky because the Olympics, everyone's supposed to be an amateur back in the day. But by the 70s, deals started to take off with both athletes and shoe companies, knowing that the advertisements on athletes was a great way to market their products. But according to the LA Times, things got so crazy in the lead-up to the 1970 World Cup in Mexico. The two companies, Puma and Adidas, actually decided to come to a sort of peace treaty and to avoid the dealings that had marked their relationship for most of the 1960s.

The most notable result of this interaction was the so-called Pelle-Pact, where both companies agreed not to sign a deal with Pellé, the greatest and most famous football player in the world at the time. their feeling was that they would both end up spending so much money on a bidding war that it would be not worth it in the end. Right. What they should have done is one shoe each. We have signed Pelle's left foot. Yes. But then when he kicks a goal with the right foot, you're like, damn it.

Yeah. Yeah. And we've kidded out his lower half. You can have his top half. Yeah, yeah. You can put him in a hat. The Pelle-Bola. You can pop up a puma belliclava on.

That's right. You got a lot of real estate up there. Shoulder pads? Yes. There's a earring, a lip ring, nose rings. Big hoops? Belly button rings. Oh, you could, you could ring it up. Belts. We'll let you have the belt, okay. They'll fall down without you. Yeah, they need you. Suspenders. A bracelet. The Adidas cape. Beautiful. You've got lots of options up there. All right. Cates are great as well when you're competing athletically. Absolutely. Yeah. Speed you up. things to tow around. 1970 was the last World Cup

Palais played in. He'd already won the title twice with his home country of Brazil. And again, they made it to the final against Italy in a hotly anticipated clash. And Pele was the most famous footballer on earth. And he didn't know about the Palais pact. And he was surprised that

unlike many of his teammates that weren't as famous as him, he didn't have a deal with Puma or Adidas. So there's other Joe Shmo's on his team that are sponsored. But he's like, I'm Palet. Where's my fucking deal? deal. But they just weren't approaching him because they had this deal. But Hans Henningson was Puma's representative who had signed a lot of other Brazilian players and he was sent to the World Cup and became friendly with Pelle, friendly enough to one day offer him a deal. Oh, do you sound like a dog.

The only problem is Hans Henningson didn't have permission from Puma to make the deal. Oh, no. But he was like, I'm going to make the deal anyway. I'll make him an offer. He offered Pelle $25 grand for the 1970 World Cup and 100,000 for the next four years, plus a cut of the sales of Pelle brand sneakers. So this is quite big money back then. Pelley accepted and then Henningson took it back to Rudolph Dastel of the boss at Puma and the deal was so good he couldn't help but accept it and he broke the pact. Oh, that sounds like a likely story.

Yeah, I didn't know anything about it until he brought it to me. Yeah, wow. I'll tell you what, the execs that we beckler would never do that. He'd never do that. You'd never do that. You'd never dog. We would never, nah. You're people of your word.

Yeah, absolutely. Down in South and Webeckler. Yes, we have great integrity at our shoe factory. Sorry, Kirsty. I know you told us not to, but I have signed Pelle, if you agree, 10 grand, and he was all in. Oh, my God. That's a fucking good deal. That is a good deal.

Oh, my God. But I know you're a company of your word. I just wanted to check with you before. He's on the phone now. Okay. It's a yay or no scenario. All right, let's say yay, but can we delete everything I just said? We'll say yay, but we need no record.

It was a deep fake. It was all a deep fake. Me saying I never would have signed Pele was a deep fake. I was always going to sign him. Yeah, that feels, I think that might annoy Addy. Absolutely. And Adid hasn't Adi only found out about the pack being broken when during the final, Pelle was paid, what is rumoured to be,

the equivalent of $1 million extra in today's money, to ask the referee for time to tie his shoelaces before the kickoff. He said, sorry, can I just tie my shoelaces? And he just quick, bends down, doesn't both. The cameraman was also paid to pan down and show Pallet tying his pumas. Oh, gee, this is all so subtle. Oh, my shoelaces have come and done,

which they never do because I wear puma's smiles at the camera. Yeah, they wear disc shoes. But also, like, yeah, what you just said then, Dave, like it doesn't feel like a great look. Yeah. Like, I'm a professional football player and my shoelaces have come undone. No one else on the fields have. Have both at the start of the game, both have come undone.

Yeah, please zoom in on the shoes responsible, which are these shitty pumice shoes that cannot sustain a shoelace being tied up. But it's not very good He's like Hey at this other game My shoe has fallen apart He's five grand for the camera person To pan down

This will be such A really good ad For if they They pan down To show that my pumer shoe Has spontaneously combusted And the kids at home are like I want my shoe to spontaneously combust

Mum I want pumas But Pele's feet were on fire It was sick Yeah He looks so cool It was wearing the ones made out of hand grenades from earlier. Oh no, you don't pull the pin. Yeah, Pelle, what we need to do is ask for some time to pull the pin just before kickoff.

It's going to blow your legs up. You're okay with that? This would be the biggest new story in the world. Palais' shoes explode his legs. But think of all the cash, Pele. Huge cash. And this is your last World Cup. Yeah.

Yeah. You don't need those legs. Yeah. Early retirement. What are we going to do with them after playing anyway? What a golden hand show? He's a bunch of cash for blowing up your legs. I mean, if the price is right, the price is right.

Brazil won the tournament 4-1. Palais scored, well, he won the match 4-1 winning the tournament. Palais scored the first goal and was crowned player of the tournament in his third World Cup title, making him the only person to ever win three, all whilst wearing Puma King boots. There you go. Not to be confused with Tiger King. Oh, they're different boots.

Yeah, very different. Those ones are in prison. So the, so how did Adidas not find out about to the final? Was he not wearing him through the whole tournament? Yeah, it was just throughout the tournament. That guy was getting closer to him being like, hey. Oh. You know, how about for the final?

Wood him and then said, hey, we'll give you this in the long run. But here's even more cash up front if you just tie them. Quite a lot more. You said a million? It's the equivalent of a million. I can't remember the figure. It's like $50,000 or something like that. I love how you're like, oh, just that.

Like, you're not happy with it being the equivalent of a million dollars. Oh, just the equivalent of a million then or a million now. Because I would not get out of bed for a million now. Now. But I would for a million then. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, now we're talking.

And some sort of a... Now we're getting out of bit. Term deposit back then that I can get out now. Then I'm in. Tell me more. So Puma took that step ahead. They were like, we've got the biggest football player in the world. But Adidas still sponsors some heavy hitters at the time.

Bob Beeman set the long jump world record. wearing Adidas, Rocket Rod Laver, our very own, won Grand Slam's wearing Adidas. And when high jumper, Dick Fosbury, debuted the now iconic Fosbury flop style of high jump, Adidas supplied him with shoes that supported the requirements for his innovative flop. Yes. Sick. Like, just like how running feels fast when you're flapping, jumping feels fast when you're flopping.

I am so disappointed that they've called it the Fosbury flop and not the Dick. flop. Like that is so disappointing. It's a missed opportunity. Come on. It should absolutely be a dick flop. Like in primary school they teach everyone. All right.

You know, this is this way. This is what they used to do for the high jump. But everyone now, the world record holders, they all do the dick flop. Okay. Enough.

Enough chuckling kid. Come on. It's very serious. You're 14 now. The dick flop was an innovative move. It's not funny. Pop down, please. You're too old to be laughing at that.

But I'm glad that they called it the Fosbury flop because it comes up in my household very frequently. The Fosbury flop. Yeah, the Fosbrough. Yeah, I'd actually never heard of it until I got with my current partner. A high jumper. And probably future partner as well.

When I say current partner, it makes it sound like I'm dumping her tomorrow. I don't know. Current, but it'll be a different one tomorrow. Yeah, exactly. You want to future-proof yourself. At the time of recording. If you see me with someone different after this episode, it's been released, she was only my current partner at the time of recording.

You can't say, gotcha, gotcha. No, you said. No, I've moved on. You got nothing, mate. Listen to the tape. I said current. Current. It was a deep fake.

She always accuses me of doing the falsebree flop into bed. Oh. It's really funny. It's a very funny bit. Like the whole time we've been together, nearly six years at the time of recording. It's over now, though. Whenever you're listening, it's over. Probably an argument over the falsebri flop.

But often she'll be asleep and I'll just say I get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. She'll be half awake when I come. back in, I'll just get into bed in an orderly fashion, and she'll be like, oh, and I'm like, what? And she goes, why do you have to Fosbury flop into the bed? That's right. You Fosbury flopped into bed. She says it about three times a week, which maybe is reflective of my methods for getting

into bed. Yeah, I imagine you're working on it, though. Thanks, Matt. I've really taken the feedback on board. Better to be accused of the Fosbury flop in bed than the Fosters flop. Is it? I've heard of that. The foster's flop.

The foster's flop. The foster's flop, no. Having had too many beers. Oh, right. You can't court. Get up over the bar. You can't stand to attention. It said like a very straight woman there.

It must be a really old phrase, though, because when was the last time you'd seen someone drinking fosters? Yeah, exactly. Like now to be, what would it be, like, Bent, Spoke brewing company flop. Ben spoke brewing blop. Ben spoke brewing blot. Ben, that's very Canberian of you.

Bricking up. Isn't it? Because I don't drink anymore. I was like definitely like trying to get hold of like a craft beer. And the other one that came just after was like Bridge Road brewing. Oh, oh, no, yeah. I had a big night at the pub last night, and it took a lovely person home,

but unfortunately experienced a bridge road brewery flop. It just doesn't have to say it. It's so mouty. And assuming you're saying it on a hangover. Oh, no. Last night I had a little creature flop. Emphas on the little fop. Little creature flop.

disappointing in both senses of the world. We could be getting a Pelae deal out of this recording, couldn't we? We could be going to these, all of these brewers and peeing. Would you like to chuck some cash in for the mention? And they're like, well, what did you say about that? Oh, don't worry. Don't listen. We gave you a plug, so to speak.

What would the opposite be? If there was a beer that wanted to say, we don't, you won't get a Fosters flop with us. You'll get the, the, uh, the Rish's rod. You get rock hard with the wretches No more flops Get rock hard with wretches Enjoy the wretches rod The wretches rod

The rock hard The rock hard wretches rod I think we've done it I think we've done it All right rashes if you're listening If you're listening Now is that a brewery that's still around I have no idea

I didn't wow I haven't seen wretches for like a good 15 years That's a Foster's era sort of brewery, isn't it? Do you know what, though? Res shoes should make a comeback. They should make a comeback because we just made them huge. Exactly. It's time.

We're nearly there with the life of Adidas and Puma here because the 1972 Olympics, Adidas boasted 80% of the athletes that won track and field medals wearing their shoes. So they were really taking a step above Puma. Despite them signing Palae, more athletes are wearing Adidas, including tennis players Stan Smith, who wore Adidas shoes when winning, Wimbledon in 1972. Do you know the Stan Smith's shoe? Yeah.

It's quite a famous Adidas one. I've got Stan Smiths. I think they're a great shoes. Of course you do. You must live in an Adidas museum. A great looking shoe. What are you got a walk-in wardrobe for your shoes? After this recording, I'm going to send you a photo of my shoes and apparel.

I would love to see that. Yeah, you'd love it. But I didn't know this about the Sand Smith's originally. They originally named the Adidas Robert Halle after the brand endorsed French prominent player Robert Halley. But in 1970, but in 1970, but in 1970s, the sneakers were renamed after Stan Smith and then went on to be extremely popular around the world. So a lot of people know the Stan Smith shoe,

but no one knows the Robert Halley shoe. How annoyed would he be? So annoyed. You got rebranded. He was the original, but Stan Smith made a killing out of it. Good on you, Stan. On your, Stan. Yeah.

So the rivalry stayed on until the 1970s and the two Dasseler brothers reportedly never spoke after their split. Wow. Any correspondence between the company, they went speaking. I've got a bodriggy boner. He's done it! He's done it! We love the good people of Bodrigi,

and I think they usually love a mention, but in this case, do you think they like this? I had a six-pack of Bodrigi last night. Don't worry, no ill effect. I'm still up, if you know what I mean. Big night. Oh, my God.

Call the doctor. But sadly, all good things, including rivalries, must come to an end. Oh, that's good. Rudy died Oh, okay Rudolph the older brother died The Puma man in 1974

And his younger brother Addie from Adidas died in 1978 They were buried in the same local cemetery But on opposite sides Of course they were Of course So they went to their graves holding under the grudge

Oh, what a bummer Never forgave each other That's horrible And also this is a terrible time To have a hyniquin hard on Yes Oh, it's a funeral This is not appropriate.

Well, why are you serving Heineken? That is incredible. For Adidas, Adi's wife, Catherine, with support from her son, Horst, took over. At the time, Adidas was producing 280,000 shoes per day. In 1986, Adidas got unexpected marketing that they didn't even pay for

when hip-hop pioneers run DMC release their single, My Adidas. Oh, you're right. About wearing Adidas. Adidas itself only found out about this love that Ron DMC had for them when the band held up the three-striped shoe during a concert in front of 40,000 fans. And apparently the shoes were quite big in the hip-hop community. And they said, if you're wearing Adidas, hold up your shoe in like half the crowd

are like holding their shoe in the air. And one of the concert goers was an Adidas employee. And he was like, holy shit. So Adidas quickly partnered with Run DMC, making them the very first music group to ever have a partnership with a major athletic brand. And it sort of just came about naturally, though. They really liked the style. And Corn were obviously listening going, I want to get in on this.

Yeah. Do you know the story about corn? I dream about sex. I know the song. I don't know the story. So, this is slightly out of order. But Corn, I was reading about them. They had that song, all day I dream about sex about Addas.

And they would all wear, especially Jonathan Davies, the singer, would wear the Adidas track suit, the one we're talking about, the France Beckend-Bauer. And then apparently they approached Adidas. and said, hey, do you want to sponsor us? And they wrote back to him saying, no, we only sponsor sports people, not musicians, even though they've done this in the 80s. Wow. And you know who else was listening?

Puma. So Puma offered corner deal and signed them. Oh, wow. And they started wearing Puma tracksuits because Puma like a million dollar deal. Isn't that? That's funny. Yeah. So they got involved.

This is so funny. Whoa. But it was way harder to sing the all day I dream about six song and put it on the P-U-M-A. All day I poo my pants I poo my pants All day I poo my pants. All day I poo my pants.

Matt, that was actually really great. I started rocking out. That was actually really great. It was so good it gave me a cascade stout stiffy. I got a carton to write tub. A dry chub, you don't want that. A dry chub. It's either a dry chub or a draft chub.

Sorry, I've got a horny hard hard on. I've got a stone and wood. Oh, full stone. Good. That's good. Look at chubbed you are, Dave. That's something stone and wood. Sure was.

Got him. Got him. Stone and Woody. We brought the horn back home strong. We've done pretty well. We've done pretty well. We've done pretty well. We went out, as if we're sailing parlance, we went out pretty low horn, pretty dry.

But once we passed the horn, we were coming back with a wet sail. That was a wet return. Once we leaned into our Erdinger erections, it was on for young and old. I couldn't think of an erection one. I'm like, I'm like, an a beer doesn't exist.

Erdinger. You got the ER as well. Yeah, that's great. That's why you're the best. I'm, that's why you're the king of erection palms.

I sure am. I'm looking forward to taking out the horniest episode award again. Yes, here we go. There we go. Adidas did well for a while with horse at the helm,

but by the late 1980s, the market had become saturated. More sports companies have come out. Copy them. a bit. And with the unexpected death of horsed, as well as the company failing to jump on the increasing popularity

of amateur running and failing to capitalize on that trend, Adidas found itself in a hole and was going to lose tens of millions of dollars. It was looking real bad for them. Addy and Kath's four daughters, now the owners decided to sell Adidas. Things didn't get better until 1993 when the company was again sold this time

to French businessman Robert Louis Dreyfus, Julia Louis Dreyfus's second cousin. Bought Adidas. He'd be. He became a... Really? Yeah, because her dad's also a billionaire.

She comes from a lot of a wealthy family. He became chairman in 1993 and listed the company on the stock market in 1995. And from there, Adidas rose from the Ashes and became the hugely successful company. We all know and love, especially Kirstie Webeck loves today. Especially. Is it possible that you saved Adidas in the mid-90s? Yeah. Congratulations.

I mean, possible or probable? But you weren't more of a Puma girl back then. No. No, that was seven and eight. but from necessity. Yeah, mid, yeah, yeah, yeah, year seven and eight, yep, and that was exactly. Okay, and then. And then once I got myself a part-time job, Adidas took over.

All day. All day. All day, I dream about success is my motto. Nice. Yeah. Well, all day, I do success. A did. Yeah, you keep dreaming about success over there.

You're doing success. But I actually get up at 4 a.m. And I success from 4 a.m. all the way up till midday. From 4 a.m. when you take that first sip of your own urine. Then I have a golden shower. Under my own stream. What are we doing? I don't know.

I think if people have got this far, this is what they want. Yeah. It's up to, it's on them now. It's on you. Yeah. Let's victim blame. Victims. We don't have listeners.

We have victims. Pictures are bad comedy. Sitting out there listening to their, through their little air pods with their hoagarden hard on. If you want to join the support group, Patreon.com slash dugorn pod. The support group of them. We don't have listeners, they're victims.

What about With Bud Weiser I remain a Bud riser Okay Yes I like how dignified yours Yeah yours Yours make more sound

Ours are just like cheap alliteration Yeah I've got a Budweiser And you're like How do you do Top of the morning I'm having a tip of right now It's a pot

It's a pot of who guys Isn't this what people find sexy Oh, yes. Dave, you've made this episode too horny. The last episode that we did was when you were awake. That's right. Matt and I kept it tastefully horny. Sorry.

But you've actually made this one like a bit trashy, if I'm honest. I'm picturing Dave's talking about his hard ons are wearing top hats and black tie. Who told you? Yeah, with a cane. They're holding a cane. His hard ones are giving you the old razzled ass. Da-da-da-da-da Jazz Hansen.

Opening the car door for you. My lady. Charmed, I'm sure. All right, back to Puma. They also stayed in the family until 1989 when Rudolph's sons, Armin and Gerd. God, these German names are incredible Gerd. Dasler sold their 72% stake in Puma

to Swiss business Kosa Lieberman S.A. And they are also now a public company if you want to get shares in Adidas or Puma. In 2020, Adidas boasted worldwide sales of $22.4 billion. It is the number one athletic shoe and sportswear company in Europe and the second largest in the world after Nike.

Puma, meanwhile, with $5.9 billion in total revenue during 2020, makes it the third largest. Incredible that they were founded by these two rival brothers and that they're still the second and third largest in the world. And despite their global success, both brands are still headquartered in Herzegnach in Germany. So a town of 23,000 people has these incredible multi-billion dollar companies with tens of thousands of employees worldwide based in their town. You know how in a recent episode we were talking about the dream of doing an Iceland show?

I had a look at the country listener stats yesterday. Germany's outside of the well, I think Germany's seventh after US, Australia, UK, Canada, New Zealand and Ireland. They're the top six and they have been since the last time I looked.

Germany's the next one down. So that would be the top country where English isn't the official language. Incredible. Berlin, you know, I reckon we could do a Berlin show. I feel incredibly embarrassed now. I've been saying it's going to look so. wrong. I'm sorry, please.

Sorry. Can I come to the Berlin show? Yeah, you can please. But not as a punter. Oh, then no. What do you want to, sorry, do you want to do sound tech or what do you think of? Yeah. Oh, do you want to do the door?

Yeah, I could deliver drinks, I guess. Yeah, well, as a weeback, I think, you know, it'd be good to get to your homeland. Oh my gosh. You haven't been there for, what, 60 years? Wow. 70-ish years. Yeah, some controversy. Wow.

Just before you left, I believe it, but. Wow. I miss the good old days when this episode got horny. Not contentious. Not contentious. What about just to finish up, how about the rivalry today? Well, the mayor of the town who has an incredible name, German hacker. First name of German.

Surname hacker. Best name I've ever heard. He sometimes wears both brands to remain diplomatic, despite admittedly. growing up in a Puma family. Although at a charity football match, he wore one of each brand's shoes to make sure he wasn't playing favourites. That's so good.

I love that. I love that. I love that. I'm going to start doing that as well out of respect to the brands. To the brothers. To the brothers, yeah. One for each brother.

Because I don't have loyalty to either of them other than the fact, I do that stuff looks better than Pumas. Yeah. Your loyalty is to how good it looks. Yeah. My loyalty is to which everyone's not shit. Yeah.

Unfortunately, that's... Added us still tend to be a bit more expensive. I reckon, yeah. Yeah. Is that the most expensive of those sort of normal sports brands? I don't know. I haven't really compared them too much. Like, Nike's comparable, I reckon.

That's all. Yeah, no, I feel like... It sounded like I had some follow-up things to say. For most of those sports brands, it's like, you can, if you want to, spend $600 on a pair of shoes, but most of them do have, like, you know, the $100 pair of... Right. That are probably fine.

Probably fine. fine if you're not an athlete, which I'm not. They're not going to be as bad as a cobloaf on your feet. Exactly. I'm starting off a low bates here. What I grew up with. Yeah, I mean, I used to do track and field when I was in, you know, year 7, 9 in a couple of begets. You have long leg, long feet, don't you?

Really long feet. Like, yeah, well, I'd wear them like skis. Because mum got me some baguettes in year 7 and said, don't worry, you'll grow into them. Like, you just grow out of these ones next month. going to get three years out of these. Very narrow feet, Kersie Weberke's. My mom, I'll never win the 200 metres with these baguettes. But you might win the cross-country biathlon.

The cross-country skiing. The shooting and skiing event at the Winter Olympics. And she was right, I did. Yeah. Cross the finish line with some soggy, soggy yeast sticks stuck to my feet. Anyway, whatever. My mouth has failed me now, and it's probably best. In 2009 there was finally a bit of thawing

between the two companies when they faced off in a friendly intercompany soccer game in support of the Peace Initiative Peace Day I was trying to work out which company won because I thought it'd be funny, one and the only thing I could find was

YouTube user at Ross Manson 9552 commented on some footage than a news company shot. He wrote, It ended 7-5, but the teams were not split into Adidas and Puma with both sides made up of staff from both companies.

So that's a beautiful gesture. So both Puma and Adidas one and lost. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Name and shame, who got the goals? Yeah. And urine tests, please.

Yeah, we want to know. Did there's Puma cheat? And they would have. They would have. Definitely. Look at them doing their dodgy Pellé deals. That was the most disappointing thing for me in this whole episode. Does that put you off Puma?

I'm still upset about it. And also when one of them call. the ally playing dirty bastards. Yeah. Don't you cover story? Calling the good guys dirty bastards? Totally. Oh, the ones who were trying to defeat the Nazis,

the literal Nazis. But you're just Nazi adjacent, aren't you? Yeah. Oh, there it is. That's the story of the Dasler Brothers feud, Adidas versus Puma. What a tale. And well told.

It was very well told. Dave, you did a really good job. Thank you. You did a good job. We had highs, we had lows, we had hard-ons. We had white-ons. Speak for yourself. My lady.

Before we get into the Patreon, read, Kirstie, you're going to head out. But before you go, where can people find your new pod? And are you doing any live shows coming up? Yes, I've got lots of live shows coming up. I am going to be in Brisbane and Cairns in Australia that is on the horizon I'm going to be doing lots of works in progress

Also in Melbourne I've got two more of my big animal quiz live shows coming up I do those with Ivana Ristigeta And their comedy panel shows All about animals They're very silly and fun Yeah thank you So I've got those coming up

I'm going to be touring a new show in 2024 I'm all over social media at Kirstywebeck Kirstiewebeck.com as well as my website. I've got merch now. Great pins. Great pins. Thanks, mate. Apart from those legs, also, you're selling merch.

Got me. They are good legs, so thank you. Yeah, I do. I've got some cute little pins and t-shirts out in about at a moment. I've got my Kirstie Webeck official t-shirt. You do as well, your little Ripper. You were one of the first people that purchased one. So thanks, Dave, your little angel.

I love it. It's a great quality shirt too. and need to actually talk to you about who printed those because they're really good. I can see some maybe track suit, Kirstie Webeck tracksuit. Oh my gosh. Yeah, with three and a half strikes on the side of the. The Webeckler three and a half strikes. The Adidas logo could be changing to a W.

It could easily. With ease. That's a fun. Absolutely. And finally, yes, my new podcast is called You'll Never Believe This. But it's with The Wonderful Cowell. and it's a comedy podcast, all about unbelievable stories. You can find it literally wherever you get your podcast from.

And if you don't know, Cal, she's a great person because she goes for the Saints in the AFL. Does she? I didn't even know she was involved in the AFL in any way. Yeah, yeah. This is news to me. Well. Okay. I'm taking a word for it, but good on.

Why would I lie about that? You wouldn't. You'd never. You'd never. Cal is a legend though. But, yeah, you'll never believe this, but it's a really fun time. Please check it out. anywhere that you get pods.

Also, if you do check it out, you have such great listeners. I cannot appeal hard enough for this. If you check it out and you enjoy it, please leave us a review. We have so many beautiful listeners who are sending us DMs on like Instagram and stuff telling us how much they like it. And we're like, please write it on Apple Podcasts. It'll be so helpful. Just copy and paste this, please.

Please, please. But anyway, have a listen. I hope you enjoy it. And thank you, Legends, for having me on your podcast again. You're the best. And I've got to say, this is probably in the running for one of the horniest episodes we've done this year. Thank you.

Got to get that photo of all your gear for us to post on the socials too. Will, promise. Cheers, Kirstie. Thanks again. All right, we've waved goodbye to Kirstie. I'm still waving. Yeah, you can stop. She can't see you now.

Oh, yeah. That's right. We're in a windowless studio. But that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show. The Patreon section, the section where we get to thank some of our fantastic supporters. These are the people who keep the show going. They keep the lights on.

They keep the marks on. Oh, they do. Yeah. We get one of them in each week. There's an intern to hit record, to turn the marks on, and we thank them. Well, there's one in the corner as well who's always peddling. Yeah, with the lights on. Thank you, Addy.

Just a coincidence. Just a coincidence this week. They're named Addy. But, yeah, you can support the show in many different ways. One of them is by going to patreon.com slash do go on pod. There's a bunch of different levels you can go to. There's levels where you get bonus episodes. There's levels with shoutouts.

any level you get access to the nicest corner of the internet, aka our Facebook Patreon group. And you're wearing a T-shirt right now, Matt, of the Shag's previous report topic that you got via the Patreon T-shirt swap. Yes, shout out to Kate, who sent me a triptych of T's. They're all very cool.

Very, very cool. One of them's an Arsenal Football Club shirts. I'm not fully sure if... Oh, right. If you're allowed to wear that. If I'm allowed to, I'm not sure. Oh, okay. because, you know, it's not technically my team, but it's a good shirt.

So I'm in a tight spot. That's tricky. You don't have a Premier League team. Maybe Arsenal could be my team. You could be a gunner. Yeah, I'm the gunners. Yeah, all right. No, it's my shirt.

Bad luck. You get involved in the swap. Fine. I think if I picked one, it would be the Wolverhampton Wanderers. I love when people say, go Wals. Go Wals. Yeah, that's fun. I like that.

How they say wolves wrong. Yeah, just enjoy that. Yeah, I'll enjoy it too, now that I know what's the thing. I hope it's a thing. Have I made that up? No, that sounds right. Is that, is that the Birmingham team maybe? No, that's Aston Villa.

Doesn't matter. They're over in Wolverhampton. Oh, that makes sense. Is it in the West Midlands? Ah, the West Midlands. Anyway, one of the first things we get onto here, and I should say, if you want to support the show without joining the patron, tell a friend.

That's a great way of doing. Maybe tell them an episode you really enjoyed or one that you think they would really enjoy, warn them that we are tedious for a while until they get used to us. That's feedback we've had in the past. Thank you. Jeez, it was tough. The first couple of listens are, but I'm glad I stuck with you. You grow on me in the end.

And yeah, you can also give us a five-star review if you want to. You can give us any number of stars in a review, but a five-star would be preferable if you were wondering which one we'd prefer. But the first thing we do here in the Patreon section is a section we call the fact quote or question section, which I think actually has a jingle. Go something like this. Fact quote or question. Bong.

He always remembers the bong. And he always remembers the dong. Hey. Geez, we're going to follow up with that. They're not meant to know that. The first one this week comes from Rachel Johnson. Now, people on the Sydney-Schenberg level or above can be involved in this one from the Patreon.

And they get to give us a fact quote or question or brag or suggestion, really, whatever they like. They also get to give themselves a title. First up, Rachel Johnson, aka Ham Sandwich. That's probably my favorite one. And Rachel Ham Sandwich Johnson writes with a question, When you were young, did you have any imaginary friends or imaginary pets? Right.

I don't know. Looking back, you always had a dog, like, you know, the family had dogs before I was born. So I didn't have any extra pets. And imaginary friends. Nothing's coming to mind. I don't have the classic like someone your name. Drop dead, Fred. Yeah.

Well, I can think of, I used to draw an alien guy. Oh, cool. What was his name or their name? I don't know if they had a name. But I could still draw them now. Oh, right. You know. I still can picture it in my head.

And do you think it's a match to it original or have you copied something? I think it's an original. That's awesome. But I'd love to see it. Yeah, I'm sure he had a name of the time. I just can't remember. I always drew skulls on everything. Oh, yeah.

Love skulls and I copied the one from the Offspring album cover on Ixnay on the Hombray. Oh, yeah. Gone away, that one of my favorite songs. I choose, great track. Yeah, that's, that's... Intermission. That's really the summer and the winter of the offspring, isn't it? Gone away, middle of winter.

Everyone's a bit sad. Yep. I choose. Oh, sun's out. Oh, here we go. I want to hit the beach. But yeah, that was my obsession for drawing things. But I never had like a character there, but the alien's really intriguing.

Anyway, Rachel answers her own question, which I always encourage people to do, writing, I had two invisible pet rabbits, Thumpeter Ting and her little brother Martin. I love it. They like to run along beside the car on. long trips, brackets. Really, they liked it. A bit defensive there, Rachel. That's fun.

Jeez. Kids these days wouldn't have an imagination like that, would they? You know, they'd be on their bloody Xbox in the car, something like that. Yeah, the Xbox will be running alongside the car, dragging it. Dad doesn't realize. Thank you, Rachel. Next one comes from Michael Derizzi, okay, paella. Did we have something where...

We asked for them to call themselves food? It's so funny. That is so funny. And there, Michael's given us a brag, writing, Not too dissimilar to Dave, I've been learning a second language. The Spanish variety as opposed to the French, though. Ah.

They're very related languages, though. They both came out of the Latin... Both romance languages, I believe. Romance languages, okay. One thing I was told is that changing my phone's language setting to Spanish help speed up the learning process. Oh gosh, I haven't heard that, but that's cool. In reality, doing that has only helped me use my phone less.

Also good. Oh, okay, great. That is a win-win there, Michael. Paya. I hope I'm saying that right. Paella. And can I just say, Ola, quital?

Can I just say, eh, si senor. Soapoke. Senor Soopoke, one of the great. doing these scenes characters. Thank you, Michael. Next one comes from Harrison and Rebecca Ellis of a power couple writing, oh, sorry, firstly, their title is your married friends who have been inviting you over for dinner, but can't find a weekend that works in our schedules. Oh, gosh, it is difficult sometimes when life just gets busy. Life just gets in the way.

It does. You know, we, obviously, we want to get together, but it's just hard. It's just hard. You've got your things. We've got ours. Yes. Also, another food. food related title, dinner. Dinner? Yes, oh my gosh, we got ham sandwich, Bayeia and dinner. That feels like we've got a feast going on here. It's good. They're offering us a fact writing, Wisconsin banned the sale and use of margarine from 1895 to 1967. And while the band was lifted, some restrictions on margarine remain today. Isn't that sad? No one in Wisconsin would have been able to celebrate the Saints' 1986 premiership victory with a margarine roll. With a big tub of margarine in a row.

Maybe a margarine bap. Oh, gosh. Hopefully they already had cotton socks by then. Oh, yeah. There'll be nowhere they could have a wig and cab with margarine. They continue. It's still illegal for a restaurant to serve margarine as a butter substitute unless the customer specifically requests it.

Okay. That's fun. So that's fact number 12. Did you have to get them from travelwisconsin.com? Oh, well, it's interesting. In fact, do you think that you have to get them to fill out like a fill out like a a permission slip for the margarine? Yeah, I guess so.

Before it hits your table. You need, yeah, you need to get like a chemist or a police officer to sign it. Yeah, that's right. It's a full stat tech situation. Thank you, Harrison and Rebecca. Finally this week from Alec Ruiz Guerrero. Alec Ruiz Guerrero. Okay, junior vice writer at the 90s do go on animated

kids show. Oh, cool. That is great. Love to be one of those. It doesn't say there, but I think the subtext is snacks. Yeah. Definitely some food happening. And Alec has got a question writing, Hello again, do go crew. If you all had a line of action figures, what would they be and what accessories would they have? In tradition, I have my own answers. Well, thank you so much. Do you want to go first or do you want to hear Alex? Why don't you give the three of us our accessories and see how close you are to Alex. Oh, he's got answers for us. Yes.

Oh, interesting. So it's obviously stuff. It's not what we'd want like, you know, like a cool thing. It's like basically what we have in real life that would be represented. Yeah, that's right. So I'd probably have maybe like a colorful sweater. Mm-hmm. Because of Cosby style.

Yeah. I prefer not to call that. You see some parallels? It's like a bit, just a woolly sort of thing that I like to wear. I am sort of wearing an oversized one today. Jeez, what else are my? A pie. Yes, definitely a pie.

And maybe I'd have like Humphrey with me. Humphrey and a book of trivia. That's a book and trivia. That's good. And that's efficient. Okay, I'd have that. I think for Jess, what do you think Jess would have? I don't think you're going to get close to what he has here, but.

Oh, really? Yeah. That's making me think it needs to be more obscure. I think Goose could be there as her little sidekick. Maybe spewing while she's scuba diving. What she's been doing whilst she's been away? Like on the Barbie episode a while back, how some of them would poop.

You get them to blow chunks. Beautifully phrased. Yeah, beautifully phrased. I'm trying to think of... And then, how right. Oh, look, I'll have... help you out. Your brain is, uh, it feels like it's halted. Yeah, I just can't think of anything, right. Your brain has just stopped. You just did a long

report. Um, so what Alex got is a bleats, Krigg, Bob, Ramones and Jess Perkins crossover. Oh my God. That's inspired stuff. That is very good. Also, a Dave, G.I. Joe Cobra crossover. Oh, I'd love a shirt that said cobra on it. That would be amazing. And he's got me as a Saint Store exclusive. All right. And says, much us gracious. I do like that a lot.

And I think you'd have like the the paddle stogram there going. Yeah, a little paddle. A little paddle going there. That's fun. Jess would have pizza, our favorite food in the world.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Maybe a margarita drink and a margarita pizza. A marg and a mug. Double marg. She'd obviously have like a car that only is parked perfectly. Yeah.

It automatically parks perfectly every time. You can't park badly in that car. It's a great question. And I mean, we could probably go to Sophie Waldron who actually made us little funco pops. We do have our own funco pops made by Sophie Waldron. I have a pie. You are wearing a Saints thing? Yeah.

Tism. It's either Tism or Saints. I'm trying to remember. We should bring him into the office now. We've set up the office space. I've just got it. We've got them all at home in our separate abodes, but I think they look even better when they're together.

Hey, Dave, that reminds me. I've forgotten about this, but a while ago, we said, if anyone wants to send through a jingle or some sort of thing, to send it through to do jingle on at gmail.com. Yes, I forgot about this as well. And on a recent Patreon episode,

you reminded me of that. Well, I was recent at time of recording. It was a month ago from when people are listening. But I looked it up and we found out that there were two that have been sent through. I haven't listened to either of them yet. So are you ready for one? I'm ready for one. Should we go with Ambers or Oz's? Which one came in first? Ooh, good question. If you don't have the answer? Amber, fantastic. Should I read what Amber's written?

Yeah. When I was, this is Amber Libet Miller. When I was listening last night and the request for jingles was given in that moment I heard the song Top of the World by the Carpenters. And it was stuck in my head. So naturally, I took that as a sign that I should make a jingle to that tune. Love it. So now all of the disclaimers, because I feel super cringe as I submit this, I don't know if people, if most people submitting things will give a polished professional sounding product, because obviously this is not that. And I don't know if you could even use it because of copyrights. I think this is parody. That's right. We're parodying the carpenters. And lastly, have you seen that clip of Karen Carpenter drum solo?

No. That's so good. Awesome. Lastly, I don't know if it's just, if it just outright sucks because I don't usually do this kind of thing. Just sounded fun. So I only spent a little bit of time on it this morning. With all that said, I realize this may not have a chance of being heard on the pod, and that's perfectly fine by me.

I just thought you three might personally enjoy it. If I didn't enunciate well enough for you to understand what I'm saying, saying, let me know and I can tell you. Thanks for listening. Okay. Do you want to put the Ox track on there? I'm very excited to hear this. Dave, are you ready?

I am ready. Ox is on. All right. Do go on's the best podcast to me. Since I ponder almost everything I see. Now you share with my guys. Hope that they'll be surprised. surprised at what they learn

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Was voted on by your peers The topic of which the patrons Are most keen They're on the topic of the week looking up information the most thorough explanation they can't find and they love to expound

while the others joke around that's the gist of the pot to go on That just worked Standing O Amber I mean You could have You said you just threw it out in a morning

You could have told me you had a team working on that for a month and I would have believed you. Every syllable in a perfect spot. Yes, well, crap, and honestly, explains the show much better than we ever do. And you've done it in song. I also like that it sort of sounded like you were recording it in a room next to people you didn't want to hear. You were sort of, I like the whisper singing.

That's right. You can tell there's more power in that voice if needed and it sounds beautiful though. That's amazing. I can't believe, yeah, it's so fun that we've got two of us. of these and maybe now that we're mentioning again people will want to send their own ones in and if you want to you can send it through to do jingle on at gmail.com is that right? Am I saying that right? Sounded great to my ears.

And yeah, thank you so much. Amber. Now the next thing we want to do in the Patreon section, now Jess normally comes up with a bit of a game as we shout out a few of our other great patron supporters. Dave, it was your topic. Do you want me to have a go? Or do you want to have something in mind? Do you have something that comes to mind?

I thought maybe we could name a new sporting brand for them. Fantastic. You know, Adi became Adidas. Rudy became Ruda became Puma. Yeah. Just three short steps from Rudy to Puma. All right, let's do that. All right, well, I'll read them out until you run out of ideas and then we'll switch.

Okay. First up, it could be. It could be soon. It could be, you might get through them all. We don't know. First up from Chandler in Arizona in the US of A, it's Lauren J. Lauren J sounds like, what about LJ's and it's like sporty pyjamas, like PJs? Oh, but it's LJ's. LJs by Lauren J. Leisure jamas. Yeah, it's more like lounge pajamas.

You know what I mean? It's like they're, you wouldn't wear the pajamas, your pajamas to the shops, but these, they're stylish. You know what I mean? Oh, I know what you mean? They're a statement. Yeah. LJ's by Lauren J. Oh, that's fantastic. Thank you so much, Lauren J.

Next up from Mayfield West in New South Wales here in Australia. It's heckers. Heckers. Hey, that is absolutely heckers. Absolutely heckers. Things are actually getting real hackers around here. Maybe calm down a bit. Things are getting a bit too.

Heckers is already very good. Yeah. Can you do anything to it? I think there's a good name, but what is it? Yeah. What is heckers? I think it's party. Yeah, okay.

I'm picturing like throwback, you know, Manchester era partyware, you know, like warehouse party raves. Getting heckers at the hacienda. Yeah, heckers, oh, I've got a heckers brand oversized dummy, you know? Yeah, go. Go-go-Gaga, I'm wearing heckers. Yes. Things are getting heckers here.

You know, and they're just, it's all like, you know, may I'm picturing like sun vizers. I wasn't there in Manchester, I got to tell you. You weren't there, man. I wasn't there, man. If you weren't there,

you weren't there. But I think heckers party wear could be big. Heckers party wear. I like it. HPW. Thank you so much, heckers.

Next up from me from Winston Salem in North Carolina. Just quickly, North Carolina, I believe, is where Venus flytrapes are from. I think that's true. And from Winston-Salem, It's Libby Mason.

Libby Mason. If we take the first bit, like L and M.A. Lima. Leema. Oh, a beautiful primate. Beautiful. And it's like a, it is track suits. Black and white striped like a lemas tail.

Yeah, like a, what are they? What are they? What are they? What am I thinking of ringtailed possums? Black and white tailed lemurs. And then if you imagine the whole track suit, it's like striped with horizontal stripes, black and white, all the way up. It kind of does make you look a bit like you've escaped from a prison in 1850. Yeah, but that's a look.

But it's cool, you know? And you're wearing Lima. It was a ringtailed lemma's right. Have a doubt yourself, Matt, is what Jess would say if she was here. But unfortunately, she's not. So I'll continue to doubt. You need it out. So, yeah, the ringtail Lima suits.

Lima suit Larry. Something there. I don't think that's further away. Thank you so much, Libby. And, yeah, I want to wear that. I'm loving this, you know, the last few years, these big sort of wearable blankets have become a bit of a thing. And I want to get involved in that.

Okay. You know what I mean? They're sort of like, they're just like you're basically wearing a blanket. It's just got armholes. Yeah. Like a schnood or something. Yeah. Shnood, yeah.

A schnoodle? It sounds wrong but right at the same time. Yes, which I think is what they're all about. Next up from Windebur in Pennsylvania in the United States. It's a mandolowder. Manda louder. I mean, there's got to be something there with louder. That's probably a PA suit.

So maybe it is one of these blanket type suits. noodle. Only it's got in in the heft of the of the jacket it's actually got speakers in Oh right so you could be the most annoying person on public transport you've got it's for yeah well yeah or a conductor in public transport exactly you got the microphone coming in yeah attention does everyone have their tickets please yes uh in our comfy conductor range yeah I wear comfy conductor by Amanda Louder I like it thank you so much Amanda Louder for your support. Next up from address unknown

can only assume from deep within the fortress of the moles. It's Daniel. Oh, okay. What about something that is like sort of in the mole range? I think maybe Daniel's surname

starts with S based on the email address just in case Daniel is like... Is it me? Could that be me? Yeah, we're talking about you. And for people who are signed up and are wondering, there's a spot where you can...

You've got to add your address in if you want us to read out your address. Or send you a Christmas card. Yes, that's right. So some people select don't want anything mailed to you, which is fine. It just means you don't get the Christmas card. And when you're read out, you're from... We don't know your address.

Yeah, we can't drop by. Which is obviously a crime. I understand now why you're keeping private. So what's Daniel? I was thinking because he's deep within the fortress of the moles and our only mole dweller this week. Something for moles? Oh, yeah.

No clothing for moles. Yeah. Probably what a... Like, you know how... people can wear eye masks to sleep. Moles don't see, right? So they could have day eye masks. Oh, right.

Maybe you'd even attach like a headlamp, like a torch as well. So it lights up the dirt for them. Yeah. Do they see? I thought they didn't see. Well, they will if we use it. Oh, yeah. So it's going to kickstart their evolution back to a sighted animal,

if I understand them at all. Wow. Well, that's, yeah. Sited animals by Daniel. Daniel S. You're doing huge things. Thank you so much to you. Next up from Capel Street, Mary, or Capel, St. Mary, perhaps.

In Suffolk, I reckon, in Great Britain. Or Suffolk. It's Megan. Megan P. I reckon. What about, Megan backwards is Nagum. Oh, yeah. That's a good name for something. Nagum.

Nagum. Nagum. Bagam. Nagam and bagam. That's what, at their retail store, at the Nagam retail store. When you made a sale. Nagam and baggham. And what, what kind of, what, what's Suffolk about?

No, like I was imagining like a big, like you said retail store, I'm imagining like a big, a prime mark, H&M size, a big shop. Yes. Where they nag them and bag them. Right. I'm picturing fancy clothes for everyday foes. Okay. Mainly because it rhymes.

And I don't really know what that means. but you know how you normally buy clothes and presents for friends. Yeah. This shop specializes in buying clothes for foes. Enemies. Oh, enemies only. Anywhere on the spectrum between enemies and frenemies. What about like the clothes look really good, but they smell quite bad?

Yeah. So you want to put it on, if you give it to your enemy, they go, oh, fantastic. And then, oh, bit whiffy. Yeah, bit whiffy. Bit wiffy. It's a bit of a pong on this one. Bit wiffy by nagam. Nagam and bagam.

Bitwifee. Bagam, because the Pong is on. Next up from Phoenix, Arizona. Second Arizonian here today, it's Evan Bergamini. Oh, Bagamini and Bagamini. Bagam. Bagam. Bergam.

Bergam. Bergamini. Bagam and Bergam. Evan Bergamining. E.B. Evbear. Evbear. Oh.

Evbear. Evbear is pretty good. Evbear. It's big furry teddy bear type costumes for the summer. Okay. So you got like little air holes or little breathability pockets? Swim bear suits. That's good.

Yeah. Ev bear. Ev bear. I can't believe there was a hole in this market. There was a gap and we found it and we're squeezing in. Thank you so much. Evan Bergamini. What a freaking awesome name.

Next from Stillwater in Oak, La Homa. In the United States, it's Melissa Gamble. Oh, what about Jackpot by Melissa Gamble? Oh, yeah. Chaching. Chaching. And that, to me, sounds like, and smells like a range of fragrances. Oh, yeah.

Jackpot, chiching. Gamble. For the successful kids on the go. This is for young high achievers. Oh, right, great. For young high achievers. Fragrances for toddlers. For gifted toddlers.

Melissa Gamble also saw a gap in the market. And took a gamble on gifted toddlers that need a new scent. And finally, from Edmonds in Washington in the US, it's Colin Harlow. Colin Harlow. And it's all about he will not be beaten on price. How low will he go? Well, that just depends on the opposition. Honestly, too low for business.

Yes. They're operating it a lot. We are losing money, but Carlo or Colin Harlow, which I was going to say Charlo, that's why I said that back soon. Charlo is offrating at a loss because Charlo's pockets are so deep, it doesn't matter. If it's on the floor, it's out the door as far as Charlo's concerned. Come into Charlo and you won't leave empty-handed. Even if you got no money, we'll give you something. It's a great store.

Thanks so much to Colin, Melissa, Evan, Megan, Daniel, Amanda Libby, Hecker's and Lauren, the last thing we need to do, Dave, is welcome in a couple of new members to the Triptitch Club. Can you just quickly explain what the Triptitch Club is? This is our Hall of Fame induction ceremony for people that have been supporting the show at the shoutout level or above for three consecutive years. We've already given them a shout out earlier, but they've stayed true and to thank them again. We immortalise them, memorialise them by inviting them into our Theatre of the Mind Club, private hangouts, space. It's like a lounge. It's a bar. It's whatever you want it to be. We have food. We have drinks. We have got live music. And once you're in, you can never leave. But why would you want to be? Your name goes up on the wall. Bang, you're a member for life for some of the coolest people who ever meet. And it's called the Tripitch Club. And it's so good to have them in. Dave, you normally book a band for the after party? Because every week we induct a few new members in. Obviously, we're there to celebrate after. Jess normally is behind the bar with a few

drinks and some food. And this week is no different, apart from the fact she's not here. But I've organized drinking some food and the food is hollowed out loaves of bread. Okay, great. Yep. And the drinks, we've got the Adidas and we've got the Puma. And you pick one or the other. Okay.

Will there any side effects from having the Puma? Yeah. It firms up your stool. Ironically. Great. But the... But what does Adidas do? Not a phrase I thought I was going to say today.

And Adidas just taste delicious. They both do. Great. What are we doing? And for the after party, Dave, you booked a band? Well, you're never going to believe it. You know me. All day, I dream about corn with a K.

They're here tonight. Corn are here. All day, I dream about Davis. Added dad. Adiddad. Corner here, they're great because they're going to sing about Adidas, but wear Puma. So, you know, we've got everything covered. So good.

All right, so hang around for that in the after party. Just two inductees this week. If you hear your name read out, please come on in, make yourselves at home. Dave's up on stage. He's going to hype you up. He's going to make you feel good. He's going to get the crowd going. I'm there to hype Dave up because he needs it sometimes.

Thank you. Just two inductees this week, Dave. You ready to go? Yeah. Please welcome into the Triptage Club from Spring Branch in Texas. Brantch! It's Raphael Gittrell. My number one pal, it's Raphael Gatrell.

And from Address Unknown can only assume from deep within the fortress of the Moles. It's Son Me 451. Who's having the best day ever? It's Sonmey. This next round, Sonmey. Welcome in, Sonmey 451 and Raphael Gittrell. Drinks and art are all 4451. You pay for four

Four five one You pay for four five one Yeah Every other day of the year It's two for one Today Not only Four four four five one

All right Welcome insomnia And Raphael Well that brings to the episode Dave Is there anything We need to tell Before we

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