Two In The Think Tank - 414 - The Newsboy Strike of 1899
Episode Date: September 27, 2023We’ve seen them in old timey movies, but I don’t think we really understand how important newsboys were to the distribution to news at the turn of the 20th century. And in 1899, the newsboys of Ne...w York took on two of the most powerful men in the US...This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 06:07 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://allthatsinteresting.com/newsboy-strike-of-1899https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/newsboys-strike/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsboys%27_strike_of_1899https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Pulitzerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Randolph_Hearst Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hey everybody, Jess and Dave, just jumping in really quickly at the top here to make sure
that you are across all the details for our upcoming Christmas show.
That's right, we are doing a live show in Melbourne Saturday December the 2nd, 2023, our
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at doogawonpod.com. Hello and welcome to another episode of Doogawaan.
My name is Dave Warnke and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart.
Hello!
Hey David, how good is it to be alive?
Quick question that was.
I don't have to answer it now.
Have a think about it.
Hmm, I'll mull on it.
Yeah, I need time.
Is there a multiple choice?
Uh, yeah.
Or.
No.
Okay, it's A or B type of name.
Okay.
I'll think about it.
A year or no.
Just do you have anything you want to say?
Well, I think I'm leaning towards no, because personally I wish I was never born.
That's true.
Yeah.
You've done so much with your life.
What have I done?
Listed from 1990 onwards.
Okay.
You were born.
Yes.
That bit you wish never happened.
I wish that never happened.
From there you grew into a child. Yes. And then I think you wish never happened. I wish that never happened. From there you grew into a child.
Yes.
And then I think from there and out.
I was 10 in between.
What 10 in between?
I mean, that's a three things now.
Wow.
And that brings us up to the present day.
We'll have packed a lot in.
You're right.
Maybe it is good to be alive.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I'm still thinking about it.
I'm thinking about going with option C, all of the above.
Oh wow! Sometimes that's life.
That's a roller coaster.
I love the highway, if you ask me.
I'm gonna ride it all night long.
Now Matt, what are we doing here? What is this show?
This show is called Dugo On and it's all about little things.
Yeah.
Little stories. Sometimes big stories.
Sometimes I'm like, oh, not this week. No, we go on for a small story this week.
It's a little story. Good one. Well, we can't wait to find out what it is. So the way it works is
one of the three of us. Pix a topic or sometimes the Patreon's vote for a topic. Usually suggest
while we go away, we research that topic topic we write up a little report about it
sometimes like last week a too big of a report and then we bring it back and tell the other two
all about what we have learned while they kind of interrupt and make tedious sort of dog chip riffs
and ask questions that probably make some people annoyed.
Yeah.
And this week Jess is doing the report and we always get under the topic with a question,
Jess, what's your question this week?
My question is, what group of people are known for their catchphrase?
Extra, extra.
Paperboys.
Is there, aren't?
No, extra, extra.
Pepperoni boys. Extra, pepperoni. Dave, I'd jump in if I were you
Rick Lee's extra gum. It is not. I thought because Matt's basically got it but I could have been a tedious
dickhead and be like, it's not quite the word. Newspaper boy, Newspaper, salesman. Take out the paper. Newspaper. Newspaper, Dave got it.
Well done, Dave.
I got it, man.
Newspaper.
Newspaper.
Newspaper.
Which are the Newspaper boys?
What kind of person?
Newspaper.
Newspaper.
I don't think I've ever, I feel like I've only ever heard them called paper boys.
Or am I thinking of boys made of paper?
You're thinking of boys made of paper, yes.
Oh, damn it. That's all we're thinking of boys made of paper, yes.
That's not what we're talking about.
It could be, you know, maybe in Australia
we would have called them paper boys.
And their story is set in the US of A.
Oh, is the A for Australia?
Yes.
And this is a report about news boys,
specifically the news boys strike of 1899.
Wow, okay.
It's been suggested by quite a few people. It's been suggested by... the newsboy strike of 1899. Wow, okay.
It's been suggested by quite a few people.
It's been suggested by...
So I can also be there,
I got a dog shit riff.
Is US or VA is that us of Australia?
Okay, go on.
And yes.
So the newsboy strike is made to be just by Sarah McLaggan from Edinburgh.
Sarah McLaggan?
Yes.
Fantastic.
JJ Grayson from Glasgow, Betsy.
I mean, JJ Grayson in any other room would have the best night, but he's come straight
after Jesse McLaggan.
Sarah.
This is the two.
Mm-hmm, Betsy, Newtotelli from West Sacramento.
Well, welcome to Tally, Betsy.
Oh, look.
Meg from Norwich?
Aha.
Oh.
Come on, you can't stop now.
Meg from Norwich.
Beautiful part of it.
Come on, yeah, Meg.
Hope you like egg.
Your name sounds like one.
Barbara Gordon from Vancouver.
Barbara Gordon.
And Barbara Gordon to you, too.
Barbara Gordon, and Daniel Spring from Philadelphia. Wow,. And Barbara Gordon to you too.
Barbara Gordon and Daniel Spring from Philadelphia. So it's all over. Yeah.
Spring is step for Daniel. And um... Quite spread out. Yeah, because you said it's in the
United States of America. I've never heard of the news boy strike. Yeah.
About 1099. But I hope they got what they want. And I'm going to talk about it for five hours.
What? It is your passion. It's my passion. I love it. I've loved it what they want. And I'm going to talk about it for five hours. What? It is your passion.
It's my passion.
I love it.
I've loved it my whole life.
We've actually got a special guest
to host a weekly Newsboy's Drag Podcast
with us for some extra facts.
For people who skipped last week's five hour episode,
it was about the same kind of football club
and it included a guest from a podcast
about the same kind of football club.
So don't make it a little funny riff there.
We'll be explaining all of the jokes or attempted jokes.
Yeah.
All of the references you will be explained.
You will never feel left out on this podcast.
I just, yeah, because there's a big strike going on at the moment
at the time of recording in America
with the writers Guild and the actors.
And the actors Guild,
with the two big guilds.
You'd be a member of the Australian writers and actors guilds when you're Dave.
Oh yeah.
No, I'm actually not part of any guilds.
I want to be a part of a guild.
I would mind being a part of a guild.
Should we just start a guild?
Yeah.
Because I can't.
Because I can't.
Oh, that's nice.
I probably is one, isn't there?
PGA.
We could do a PGA too.
Exactly.
So what do we have PGA too?
PGA too.
I think that would be nice.
The Colony Festival, that's one of the mages.
Yeah.
Now watch this drive.
I don't know what that means.
Anyway, so news boys, we've seen them in old timey movies.
Absolutely.
But I don't think we really understand how important they were to the distribution of news
at the turn of the
20th century. This is during a time when newspapers were printed and distributed at least twice a day.
The morning papers were often delivered directly to subscribers, but afternoon papers relied
exclusively on news boys to sell them. Wow. They were usually news boys were usually quite young.
Some apparently as young as seven and they were often from poor immigrant families.
Some in fact lived in lodging houses
that were created to help the homeless youth of New York City.
And the first of these lodging houses
was opened in the mid 1850s
and offered a bed and a bath for six cents
and a meal for an additional four.
Incredible value.
Over the time, they often incorporated a school as well,
allowing the children to attend classes in the morning or evening,
as most of them had to work to support themselves.
I just thought that was kind of interesting and not a terrible system to get kids
off the streets.
Like in the mid 1850s, I was like, we'll give you a roof over your head.
Now we don't do that.
Where do we put the roofs?
Wherever, like underfoot. Oh, yeah, that is a bad system. Yeah, that's not where they go
Sometimes a bit sideways. I mean like that's a wall
Okay, we are thank you for the wall, but call it what it is. Yeah, don't tell me that's a roof
Tell you what there are clowns up on Capitol Hill
And sometimes camera sometimes you know how sometimes rains come in sideways. Then that
particular roof is helpful. You welcome. But that's not that often. Yeah, could you
put a roof on top of these other roofs? Yeah, please. I'm gonna have I'm gonna
get in. We make a smaller inserted roof on a hinge. A hinged roof. That's good.
That's nice.
According to all its interesting.com,
newsboys and sometimes girls, but usually boys.
Had long made up the fabric of booming metropolis's
like New York City,
dieting between carts and hanging out on corners,
they hawked the newspaper for a penny.
By the time of the newsboys strike of 1899,
the number of newsboys had exploded.
Thanks to the recent introduction of evening additions, which people grabbed for their commute
home. So they're printing even more papers.
Like a third run, maybe.
There was a third run of papers. They need more newsboys out on the street, get those
papers to the people. So how it worked was, the newsboys would buy a stack of papers
at 50 cents per hundred
and then they'd sell the papers for a penny, one cent. So they made a profit of half a cent per paper.
Right on. So you sell what? 20 papers, you got yourself a meal, you got a bath, you got a bed.
I guess so, but you also spent 50 to buy the papers. So you got to sell them all really to make it.
You got to sell at least half to make it you got to sell at least half to
Make some of that money back. I got you
You got yourself a hinged roof you get yourself a gym
but so
So yeah, so they're marking it up by what a hundred percent
Zara half a day by and a half a cent sound for one cent
Yeah, they thought about selling them for two cents.
Wow.
Thank you for your money.
Whoa.
Maybe that's what this structure would be.
That could have solved this strike a lot, so.
Oh, actually.
This system worked for a long time.
Yeah, it kind of gave the kids.
Our kids obviously weren't raking it in,
but they'd have enough to potentially keep a roof over their heads
and buy a stack of papers
the next day and keep it going.
It worked for a long time.
There were some short-lived strikes in 1886, 87, and early 89.
But 10 years later in mid-1899, the newsboys would set off a strike that would have ripple
effects into newspaper circulation and would inspire
a Disney musical almost a hundred years later.
Whoa, ladders.
And the reason for this strike came down to the actions
of two men, Joseph Pulitzer and William Randolph.
That's good stuff.
What do you say?
Prize Pulitzer and Grace. Great, it's good stuff. Headed you say? Prize. Pulitzer and price.
That's good stuff.
I added that bit out. Just started again. Sorry about that everybody.
Just go again from the top. Then we can cleanly add it out.
That wararth thought was quite fun. But as a tear down, what do I say?
What did you say? I realized that it wasn't fun. It was annoying.
No, it was just the... Both of you can't see each other out in all I heard was
Yeah, yeah, it was my fault because the middle of my sentence interrupted the start of Matt's
It didn't you know you know
Why you should do is pause after everywhere just in case you got an idea and then I'll possibly have seven seconds after it he has a really good sense of when I'm trying to build suspense, too.
So you go from the top.
Could I add to some of these names, I believe. Can we go again?
The reason for this strike came down to the actions of two men.
Joseph Pulitzer and William Randolph Hurst.
Oh, he's big. Paddy Hurst is dead.
Paddy Hurst is dead. I don't know who Paddy Hurst. Ooh, he's big. Paddy Hurst is dead. Paddy Hurst is dead.
I don't know who Paddy Hurst is.
I think I said she did.
Paddy Hurst is the one who had the term Stockholm syndrome
sort of applied to her.
She made it a popular term.
It's right.
I don't know if we've talked about that.
Well, she kidnapped her.
She's the daughter of the granddaughter.
Maybe granddaughter.
Probably granddaughter, I think, yeah.
And she ended up.
So it's a very wealthy family.
She ended up being like, like she did some arm-roberies and stuff and ended up getting
in trouble.
I think that's been suggested.
I think it's in the hat.
I think it's a pretty harrowing story for her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really bad.
We don't ever do harrowing stories.
No, exactly.
That's why we haven't done that.
That's where we get.
We like to keep it nice and light.
A little bit about them first.
Joseph Pulitzer was a Hungarian American who moved to the US in 1864 when he was in his
late teens where he fought for the Union in the American Civil War.
Although he spoke German, Hungarian and French, Pulitzer learned very little English until
after the war.
He was sort of able to get
by mainly with German during the war apparently. So he's in the US, he's there for quite some time,
still doesn't speak English. After the war, he moved around a little bit, eventually ended up
in Missouri. He worked odd jobs, spent his free time studying English, and was a prolific reader.
And in 1868, he landed a job as a reporter
for the Westlitch Post, a German language newspaper.
He became involved in politics, and in 1878,
he bought the St. Louis dispatch
and merged it with John Dillens, the St. Louis post,
forming the St. Louis post and dispatch.
Oh, that's good.
Which I soon renamed to just Post Dispatch.
All beautiful names for a paper.
They got rid of the and?
Post Dispatch, it was a hyphen now.
With his own paper, Pulitzer developed his role
as a champion of the common man
featuring ex-Pozeis and a hard-hitting populist approach.
The paper was considered a leader
in the field of sensational journalism.
So they would go on for like,
if it bleeds, it leads.
They were going for like big eye-catching headlines and stuff,
which I find, I didn't know that
and I find it funny that the Pulitzer Prize exists now.
Yeah.
But anyway.
That is so funny,
because what is the Pulitzer Prize is like for an excellence in journalism. Yeah. But anyway. It is so funny, because what is the Pulitzer prize
is like for an excellent cinema, something to me.
Yeah, and you're like, but he was a leader
of sensationalist news.
I think a lot of awards are just like,
he funded it at some point.
Exactly right.
So it's him going, I want to legacy like the bomb maker
who does the Nobel prizes.
And I think the Australian one is is funded by an oil baron.
The Australian one.
The Australian media awards, are they called the big ones?
Quills?
Not the quills, again.
The War Cleans.
The War Cleans.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I believe maybe he was like, you know, another guy
who just wanted to have a great rebrand.
I'll let you see.
If my work was described as sensational, I'd be pretty happy with that. I just want to have a great rebrand. I like it. If my work was described as sensational,
I'd be pretty happy with that.
I just want to say.
But nobody will say it, Dave.
They won't.
They won't.
And that's on you.
You got to lift your game.
In 1883, he traveled to New York
and made an offer to Jay Gould to buy another newspaper,
The New York World.
Jay Gould had acquired the newspaper
as a throw-in on one of his railroad deals.
We'll chuck in the paper as well.
They've just written a newspaper.
And it had been losing about $40,000 a year.
It wasn't doing very well, so he was candy-gathering a bit.
So Pulitzer negotiated with him, and eventually he purchased the paper for $346,000.
Now, remember to put it in perspective,
the kids are selling the papers for one cent.
And he's just paid $346,000 to buy a newspaper.
That's losing money.
Big money, yeah.
The world, the paper, immediately gained
6,000 readers in its first two weeks under Pulitzer and more than doubled
its circulation to 39,000 within three months. So he really turned it around really quickly.
From Wikipedia, as he had in St. Louis Pulitzer emphasized sensational stories,
human interest, crime, disasters and scandal. Under Pulitzer's leadership, circulation grew from 15,000 to 600,000, making the world
the largest newspaper in the country.
That's amazing.
Huge.
Making the world the largest is favorite of the country's fun.
It's clear to me because I can see I've italicized it.
Mm-hmm.
Is that a word? Yeah, yeah.
I've put it into Italian.
When I pull it to post, for a long time. I think you know what, Talia. When are pooled and surpassed for that?
I've put it into it.
Talia!
Pooled and emphasized broad appeal through short provocative headlines and sentences.
The world's self-described style was brief, breezy, and brigad-y.
Ooh! I reckon there's that.
We don't need that third word.
No, but they're just like...
We need it to be brief.
We need to be breezy. We need to be... I think we're not that way but we need to be brief. We need to be breezy.
We need to be, I think, other with the third word.
Brigadier.
Brigid.
Brigid.
Everyone's like, well, I guess this goes the master.
God, he's good.
One of his biggest rivals at the time was William Randolph.
Oh, that's dog.
So, Hurst was an American businessman,
newspaper publisher, and politician politician, known for developing
the nation's largest newspaper chain and media company, Hurst Communications.
He was born in San Francisco, the son of George Hurst, a millionaire mining engineer
who later became a US senator, very powerful, very rich family.
He enrolled in the Harvard College class, Harvard, of 1885, but was expelled for antics.
Oh, wow.
Including organizing massive parties in Harvard Square
and sending chamber pots to his professors.
That is tricky.
That's a bit of fun, I think.
That's an antic, I would say.
I want to know.
Is it a use as a full chamber pot?
Does it, that really changes it for me?
Because it was just an empty chamber pot. Thank you for this level of use. Thank you. I needed a new chamber pot. That really changes it for me. Because it was just an empty chamber pot.
Thank you for this lovely gift.
Thank you. I needed a new chamber pot.
I need to shit.
I'm taking that off the gift register.
Lovely. Thank you.
Appreciate that very much.
It matches my upstairs chamber pot.
So expelled from Harvard and looking for a job.
In 1887, Hurst took over management of his father's newspaper,
the San Francisco Examiner, which his father had acquired in 1880, as repayment for a gambling
debt. People are just handing over newspapers. So funny. It does feel like rich people in America
are like playing the whole country like a board game. Yes, okay, sure, you can buy the railway,
but I am gonna throw in this newspaper,
but for an extra 10 grand.
Oh, I don't want the electric company.
But if you want the, if you want the railway,
I want the new gun to take the electric company.
Yeah, I've already got three railway lines,
this could be good.
I'm gonna get the fourth one.
Fine, I'll take your super electric company.
Yeah, it feels like that, which I simply adore.
In 1895, William Randolph Hurst purchased the rival New York Journal, which at one time
had been owned by Pulitzer's brother, Albert.
So now they've both got rival newspapers in New York.
One's the world, one's the journal.
And that's right.
I don't know why I specified American Rich People.
I think that's probably Australian Rich People
also play our country-like aboard game.
Yeah, but it's probably like, boggle.
LAUGHTER
It's off-brand, it's not as good.
LAUGHTER There's not as good
Yeah, there's not as much good stuff comes in a plastic bag
That's me It's not my stuff. They've made a lot of their own pieces out of cardboard
And they say you can't tell the difference, but you can yeah, it's embarrassing
So with this acquisition Hurst entered into a head-to-head circulation war with Pulitzer. In fact,
Hurst played a little, he played a little dirty.
He stole Cartoonist Richard F.
Outkult along with all of Pulitzer's Sunday stuff.
Wow.
He stole them.
He stole them.
Put them in a bag.
Hesitation sack in a black man.
He just dragged them down the street.
Now, working this office instead, okay?
Okay, all right.
But his reputation was actually quite good.
What it probably seems like is that he was just offering
better at their jump ship.
His stolen is funny, like, that wasn't their choice.
He stole them by offering them all money
and better working conditions.
I thought you were a dog. He imported his best managers from the San Francisco Wasn't there choice he stole them by offering them all money and better working conditions
He Imported his best managers from the San Francisco examiner and quickly established himself as the most attractive employer among New York
Newspapers, okay, he was hard. He was seen as generous. He paid more and yeah, I think just the working conditions are probably a bit better
And also a chisel draw and he was hot. Oh my God. He was a haddy. From this really interesting resource I found, Wikipedia.org,
it sort of has a lot of the history of newspapers. I don't know. Which I think is quite dull,
but when you find out some of them are one in gambling debts and stuff, that's quite interesting.
That's fun. So Wikipedia.org says, the New York Journal and its chief rival, the New York World,
mastered a style of popular journalism that came to be derided as yellow journalism,
which is I looked up, you know, what the definition of that is.
It says, American terms for journalism and associated newspaper that present little or no legitimate,
well-researched news, while instead using eye-catching headlines for increased sales.
So they're not good newspapers. researched news while instead using eye catching headlines for increased sales.
So they're not good newspapers.
Do you know where they got the color yellow from?
Was it like the paper was cheaper or something?
No, it was, I think it's like, I think it was like a bit of a deep cart.
I think it's something to do with a particular cartoon that was in one of the papers.
I can't remember.
I did sort of look into it and I think that was it. Bit strange.
Was it The Simpsons?
It was The Simpsons.
Yeah.
So The Simpsons started, not a lot of people know that.
Pulitzer's world had pushed the boundaries of mass appeal for newspapers through bold headlines,
aggressive news, generous use of cartoons and illustrations, had a lot of pictures. Populist politics and dramatic crime and human interest stories.
Herse's journal used the same recipe for success,
forcing Pulitzer to drop the price of the world from two cents to a penny.
Instead of increasing their prices, like you suggested Dave,
they've actually decreased them.
Oh my god, I can't just say that Pulitzer's world sounds like the world's worst theme park.
Yeah, Pulitzer world.
Come on down.
See the printing press.
Right, the printing press.
Come up with your own catchy headline.
Even if it's not real, we'll probably publish it.
Pose for a picture.
So, and when you say, is it penny ascent?
Yeah.
So yeah, it's gone from two cents to...
So it's hard.
Slash the price.
Yeah.
Just to be more competitive because they're really in a circulation war.
And all that really does is cut them margin for the paper boys.
Yeah.
Because they're the ones setting the price.
Yeah, that doesn't seem...
Yeah, I guess you...
So they're wearing all of that. Are they still selling them to the paper boys at the ones setting the price. Yeah, that's not the same. Yeah, I guess you're wearing all of that.
Are they still selling them to the paper boys at the same price?
Yeah.
Jesus.
Yeah, that's pretty, that can't be the way to do it.
Soon the two papers were locked in a fierce,
often spiteful competition for readers in which both papers spent large sums of money
and saw huge gains in circulation.
So yeah, they're like, by dropping the price,
obviously they're losing money, I suppose,
but they're making it more accessible,
or if the other ones two cents and this one's one cent,
and they're essentially telling the same story
as well, get the cheaper one.
So yeah, so they're just trying to get their circulation
numbers up, seems to be like,
that's the main thing they care about.
Also from Wikipedia.org.
Within a few months of purchasing the journal,
Hurst Hideaway puts his three top editors.
Sunday editor Moral Goddard,
who greatly expanded the scope at a moral.
Moral, I know who that is the first name.
It's MO double R, I double L.
Moral? Moral? Moral? Moral. Moral. Moral. I think it's Moral. Moral, that is a first name. It's M-O-D-L-I-W-L. Moral.
Moral.
Moral.
Moral.
I think it's Moral.
We'll trust that guy.
Moral.
Gotard, who's a Sunday editor, who greatly expanded the scope and appeal of the American
Sunday newspaper.
There was also Solomon Carvello, oh my god, another great name, and a young Arthur Brisbane,
who became managing editor of the Hearst newspaper Empire and
a well-known columnist.
Contrary to popular assumption that they were not lured away by a higher pay, rather each
man had grown tired of the office environment that Pulitzer encouraged.
Toxic work environment.
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
You know?
But you encouraged that.
Yeah.
It's not always about, obviously, if you're leaving one job, it'd be great if the next one pays more, you know, but sometimes you sort of go, well, same pay,
yeah, you're a bit of work in these side ways, but there's benefits in other ways.
Exactly, that's me investing in me.
They've got to be bean bags.
They've got bean bags.
They're actually really cool at a ping pong table.
Yeah, and that's migrator Wednesdays.
Yeah, and that's really fun. I get ping pong table. Yeah. And that's migrared of Wednesdays. Yeah. And that's really fun. I get
drunk at work. Yeah. So working in an office with a slide
before, isn't that right? I did work in an office with a
slide. And we did have drinks and snacks. And I don't just
mean like they put out a cheese board. Like there was a, there
was a bar built into the building. And they would just bring
out boxes and boxes of like chips, popcorn pretzels,
whatever. And you'd go and take an entire packet of chips and beers and you could take
them back to your desk. It was the best. And we had John Farnam play at the Christmas party.
I got it. Yeah. Now we're talking. You know what? I'm probably, yeah. It's hard.
Part of me would be like, can I just get my card of whatever you paid for? Yeah.
It could just pay me a bit better. Yeah, that'd be nice.
Could you just pay me a bit better?
Yeah, they did pay well too.
Oh my God, where is this place?
It's a good job.
Yeah, were you working for 1-800 heaven?
Yeah, I was working for 1-800 heaven.
Oh, you've got heaven.
Hello, you've got heaven.
Oh, well great.
What's it like in there?
I didn't think I'd get through.
Oh, have you got those pretzels or pretzels?
Is my granddad there?
No, pretzels, damn it so much about? Is my granddad there?
No, pretzels, damn it!
Put him on.
Put him on and get me a pretzels.
Anyway, so the two of them were soon going to have a shared enemy to deal with
and it was going to come from a surprising source, a bunch of kids.
Nothing brings two old Richmond together, like some annoying kids.
So from all that's interesting, they wrote, everything started to shift when the Spanish-American
war broke out in 1898.
Then publisher started charging newsies, the newsboys, paperboys.
Oh newsies.
60 cents instead of 50 for their bundles
Although they didn't know it at the time. This would form the basis of the news boys strike of 1899
Just a year later. So they just just said sense more newsies didn't mind not at first
The public had a massive appetite for war stories and the papers filled with grabby, exciting headlines sold like never before.
So they're like, yeah, it's fine. Buy this paper or you'll die. Oh my God. I'll take
four. When the war ended though, most publishers lowered their prices back to 50 cents. But
Hurston ports are kept charging the news boys 60 cent for 100 papers. The moguls were competing
with each other using flashy front pages and extra editions, and they wanted to save money where they could.
Small, seven-year-old children trying to keep roofs over their head.
That's what we can save money.
What are you going to do?
You're a kid.
Yeah.
What are you going to do?
Band together?
I like this band.
That'd be really cute.
That probably sounds really cute.
I'd watch a musical about that.
What was the war that just ended?
There was some American war there.
The American Spanish. The Spanish American war.
Please don't ask me any follow-up question. I didn't know that had existed.
I just quick follow-up question. What did that war entail? Who were the combatants?
Spain. America. Right. Where did to get the name from? You know these, they just make them up.
Yeah, right, the random name generator.
Yeah, yeah.
What's a ball?
Vietnam war?
Where's that?
They just got names.
We're all war two, you're God.
Get some inspiration.
I think it's all based on astrology or something.
Yeah, they get names from that.
Mercury rising. They know comments and bites and shit, sort of something. Yeah, they get names from that. Oh, Mercury rising. Yeah, they know comments and bouts and shit, sort of something.
Right, right, right.
History's all made up.
Before long, the news boys started to feel the difference.
Their frustration came to a head on July 18, when news boys in Long Island City found
out that a journal delivery man had been selling them bundles with fewer than a hundred papers.
Oh, what?
Is ripin' them off.
So not only are they still being charged 60 cents, they're not even getting a hundred
papers to sell, so how do they make any money?
He starts cutting up the bundles with older papers as well, just like less equality.
Yeah, clever.
That's smart.
And also, if the kids, essentially, like the kids bought the papers, I had to sell all
of those papers.
If you didn't sell all your papers, you're just losing money.
So they're having to work late, they're having to work really hard, and now they're finding
out they're not even getting 100 papers that they're paying for.
Yeah, they start going, well, I'm getting through these real quick.
And then realize they're only getting bundles of three.
Like, wow.
Something doesn't happen.
I'm getting really good of three. Like wow. I know, some doesn't have a peak. I'm getting really good at this.
So they've discovered that he's not giving them
the full 100.
So a group of furious newsboys tipped over his wagon
and stole his papers.
Energized and encouraged the newsboys decided
to tackle a much bigger injustice,
the price of their bundles.
So on July 19th, it's the next day, the news boys gathered in Manhattan City Hall Park
to form a union. They demanded that Hurst and Pulitzer reduce the price of newspaper bundles back
to 50 cents, and the news boys declared that they would not buy the world or the journal until the moguls complied.
The newsboys strike of 1899 had begun.
It was like so quick.
It was like one day a bunch of kids in Long Island just like snapped and had enough,
and then the next day they formed a union there on strike.
They were efficient.
This is before they could just text each other and be like,
Hey, sup, we're on strike.
They fly high.
Hey, I just tipped a man over.
So how do I... I tipped a man over.
So how do I, I tipped a man over, you know what that means?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
I see it's in your whole work.
I see it's in my mind.
Mid-day at the park, you got it.
Tipped a man over. And it's wagon over.
And it's wagon over.
They didn't tip him over.
What do you tip a man over?
I think it was pretty clear that they also tipped him over.
Yeah, so you tipped the wagon over first, but he doesn't say that.
And then they go, hey, what's that over there?
And then whilst he's walking backwards, he tipped over the wagon.
There's an implication there that he also got tipped.
So a man tipping over is him falling on something?
Yeah, he's been tipped.
Yeah, it's a huge, yeah.
And I say congratulations, he's been tipped.
Right.
It's a new show I've been waiting on.
What if he was in, oh, that's better the catch rises you've been tipped you be tipped
Um, what if you put a dollar no
What if he was in the wagon when they tipped it?
He's still being tipped you in double tipped. Oh, that's double tipped. Yeah, you get double points for double tipping
Yeah, that's can't tipping can car yeah, yeah, okay. This is interesting, which is double points. Yeah. That's cankoa tipping. Cankoa? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This is
interesting. Which is double points? What's the show called
again? Tipping point. Tipping point. But the cat
raises you've been tipped. Is a dollar. Oh, okay. That's
another type of tip. Yeah. That's when you've been
double tipped. You get a triple tip. You get a third
tip. Wow. Yeah. Which gets you another dollar. Could there be
a segment on the show called Just the Tip?
Just the Tip, yeah.
It's because that is a, that's the tip of the show.
Does that show?
If it doesn't count.
Just the tip.
Yeah, does that count?
It does, yes.
Yeah, another dollar from the tip.
Some of it was said that,
if it's just the tip, it doesn't count.
But it absolutely counts.
I can't.
It was a big point of those.
I show the, is it about,
about tipping in so many ways. Maybe too many. At the end of
the show do you take the wagon and throw it in the tip? Yeah, that's right. It passes the
tipping point. That's the tipping point. Then you get another dose. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
I think I'm so excited to say it. If there's enough weight in the dollars that land on
you, you pass the tipping point and it all goes to the tip.
And at any point are you asked to give advice?
Yes, there's an advice section in there.
Each time has one advisor.
Give tips.
Which gets you a dollar.
And then also at some point is one of the challenges to put on like a weird silicone cap that you pull parts of your hair through to bleach.
Yes. There is also one hairdresser working out from their backyard.
And what's she doing? Or is that just where I got my tips?
And her name was Bernie. Is that just me or is that?
No, that's not true. That's all the show. That was very painful.
Yes. And you on the show. That is very painful. Yes.
And you get a dollar.
There you go.
We've got a whole staff of TIP as we call it.
The TIP staff.
Wow.
But, you know.
TIP stars, that would be good.
Yeah, the TIP stars, yeah.
They could be famous for that.
Yeah.
Anyway, should I keep going though?
We've sold it to any country so far.
That's a really fun show.
I like it a lot.
To celebrate your TIP a bottle of champagne,
do you throw it just part of a fun? And then you get a big one. You like it a lot. To celebrate your tip of bottle of champagne day, you throw it. It's part of the fun. And then you get
it. I want to clarify as well for the listeners that Matt is he's doing the
full arm gesture of putting a dollar down every time he's done a bit of
that's for you. We go all in here. Yeah, we don't fuck about. We
know how fast sing it here. We're not. When we're talking about our
show tipping point. So look at may have started with the Long Island newsboys tipping over a wagon, but it's
spread really quickly, and the newsboys of Manhattan and Brooklyn joined in on the
strike the very next day.
So it's spread like wildfire.
At first, the newspaper mogul shrugged off the newsboys demands.
There was a guy called Don Seats, and he was the managing editor of the New York world
and he sent a very blaz-a memo to Pulitzer about the strike on July 21.
So it's been going for a few days and he sends a memo and it just said,
had some trouble today through the strike on the part of the news boys,
but he assured his boss that the strike would be sporadic and that the situation was well-inhand.
He was like, don't even worry about it, but... Bad. Bad. Bad. They're just boys, bad. Don't worry about it. They're
more of the little boys. They're aging out of the job anyway. There's new paper boys being
born every day. Yeah. That's a paper boy. That's a paper boy.
That's a big born or dying? Ha, boss. One in one out. It's a good policy. That's one aging out. That's one big one.
Oh, we got one.
From all that's interesting, the news boys, however, had no intention of backing down.
On July 22nd, 100 newsies descended on newspaper row where the papers were distributed and threatened
the New York world and the New York Journal with clubs.
Okay, they've really stepped it up.
They've got weapons now.
Oh, okay.
Not like, they're not wearing different color t-shirts and like, calling themselves, but
I think they've got weapons.
Where the bagel boys.
Yeah.
The bagel boys.
Where the bagel boys.
Where the bagel boys.
Where the bagel boys from company B.
Yes.
Lots of good options.
I couldn't think of a single other joke.
For clubs? Yeah. I mean, they could have invited them to a disco. Yeah.
A night out? Yeah. Yeah. But no, they've got bats.
A few screw drivers? No, they've got bats. Okay. Is that a cocktail?
Is that a cocktail? I'll have a bat, thanks. I'll have a bat.
I'll have a club. Okay. At first, the police were able to disperse the young strikers,
but the news boys striker V8, hit 99 continued,
and the newsies convened in even greater numbers
around Columbus Circle.
500 of them shouted through fruit and stole newspapers
out of waggards.
Oh, they're tipping, they're back tipping.
When you said shouted through fruit, I thought that was like,
that was holding up like a mango out of the mouth, go,
PURP!
PURP!
PURP!
PURP!
PURP!
Why is food his name?
Why is he doing it through the fruit?
Can we have examples of what other fruits would sound like?
Well that was a mango.
What kind of fruit is it?
Banana.
Banana is more like fruit.
Yeah, yeah.
You're going to have to get your lips around a little bit.
A blueberry.
A blueberry.
Are you just shouting with a blueberry in your mouth?
No, you're not shouting through with that one.
Yeah, that's true.
That is true.
No, they shouted comma.
They threw fruit,
and they stole shit.
That day seats, the managing editor,
Santa's second memo.
This one had a note of alarm.
So the newsboy strike has grown into a medicine affair.
It is proving a serious problem.
Sorry, sir, I know it's a no.
It's not a serious one, but I'm now covered in mango.
He goes on to say,
practically all the boys in New York and adjacent towns have quit selling.
This is only a few days later, like at first he was like, that I worry about it.
And I was like, I'm worried about it.
We're not selling any papers.
That was on like the 22nd, on the 24th of July, he was in full paddock.
The advertisers of abandoned the paper and the sales have been cut down fully two to five,
he told Portsa, it's really a very extraordinary demonstration.
I think hats off to the kids.
Yeah, I think we should do a story on these kids.
Yeah, and people did,
funnily enough, not those two papers.
I don't know what. But others did.
Yeah, the Paul says, everything is fine.
People are extra extra.
Nothing to see here.
Literally, no one is saying this,
because the boys are on strike up.
Who am I?
Who am I?
Who am I saying this?
You're a newsman.
I'm a newsman.
I'm a newsman.
They bang him three cents.
They tried.
The young boys continue to rally and protest
and refuse to buy or sell the papers.
They marched across the Brooklyn Bridge.
They protested in the streets of downtown Manhattan.
They tore up newspapers and threw water on newsstand owners
who didn't support the strike.
From Wiki, any man or boy found to be selling the two boycotted papers would be mobbed by
a group of strikers, beaten and his papers destroyed.
The newspaper owners paid grown men to sell their newspapers, offering them police protection,
but the strikers often found ways to distract the officer so they could get at the scabs.
I'm a co-leader. Yeah. often found ways to distract the officer so they could get at the scabs. I think over there.
When did the term scabs come about?
That a really nice song was already around.
Yeah, it might have already been around.
I think maybe it was because they ended up getting bashed like this.
They'd still work and they'd cut us scabbling up with them.
You skipped over and you skipped me.
But imagine like being these newspaper owners, you're now paying adults to sell the newspaper
and offering police protection from children.
Yeah.
It's kind of funny.
So much more money though, be spending than just paying them extra.
Exactly right.
Or charging them less is all they're asking to do.
Yeah.
But instead they're making, I'm guessing they're paying the cops and they're all
sat, I'm assuming having to pay the adults more than the children.
Yeah, I would assume so.
Probably multiple cents.
Yeah, so it's a bad system.
No, and there wasn't a big margin as it was.
No.
Um, there, Wikipedia article says, women and girls fed a little bit because as Union leader kid blink put it. Oh my god
This has got to be the highest quality
Like consistently
There's some really good names
Kid blink and here's a union leader one of the union leaders
I'll talk more about kid blink in the second
But he said a fellow cart can't soak a lady.
Which I, yeah, what do you say?
A fella can't soak a lady.
That's a no-bath rule.
Yeah.
You're the man, you're the boy.
Yeah, that's it.
But you can't soak a lady.
The window was different back then.
So the struck news papers didn't publish a word about the strike.
As we were just saying, they were, their news didn't include this at all.
But other newspapers ran articles and illustrations detailing the skirmishes, the mass meetings
and negotiations.
And they always quoted the news boys in their signature slang.
So like it was quite, like it was written out sort of phonetically.
So it's like we's, we's and has got to stand by one another day's times.
A strike a name to Billy told the Jersey City evening journal.
Cause if we don't, sure,
hell will get hidden the neck from dem capitalists.
Okay.
Beautiful.
Beautiful.
You know, you can't bear the woman.
It's so collady. That's so collady.
That's so collady. Why, do they catch onto this and just start hiring only women?
I don't know, I think they still like...
That will obviously, we still prefer to give the one to men.
We still distract the cops and steal all the papers and yeah, no, it still didn't go well.
Although portrayed by the press in comic fashion,
strike violence was no joke.
Some scabs wielded table legs and carried revolvers
with them to protect themselves against children.
Table legs.
One forced-aloded gun down kid blinks throat.
Oh, seems unnecessary.
Really unnecessary.
This strike is...
Like how short is the range on this gun?
LAUGHTER What are you doing, miss? Keep following. really unnecessary this strike is like how short is the range on this go
and now we wait it's a crooked side I don't know but the striking new but newsboys played rough too they armed themselves with horseshoes baseball bats
barrel staves and wheel spokes and they were like it was violent so again You're the horseshoe you like trying to like wrap it around their neck.
Yeah, yeah.
You're like, she looks going on.
I'd be pretty, like if he got hit over the head with one and hurt.
Yeah.
Or thrown at you.
Or if you put it on your foot, you kick it.
Oh my god, yeah.
It comes with kicking the face.
Kick it in the face.
Kick it in that by a shadow of phony.
That actually, that sketch hasn't used paper boy.
Does it?
Yeah.
Actually, I read all about it.
Man kicked in the first by a shirtlin pony.
Oh yeah.
He's very jacked.
He's very jacked.
He's very jacked.
If you haven't seen it, you've got to go on YouTube and type in kicked in the head.
No, I've maybe done it by a shirtlin pony.
Jess is there.
Yep.
In a nurse's outfit.
I'm there as a doctor. So it was, you know, it was, error-appropriate.
Yeah. Women were nurses. That's right.
Men were doctors.
Tectorous was a paper boy.
Yeah, it all makes sense to me.
So I mentioned Kid Blink.
Oh yeah.
Great name. I've got a couple of other characters here that, you know, they come up in the story,
but I mostly just wanted to say their names.
So Kid Blink, part of what appealed to me in this story
was some of the characters in the names.
So he was kind of, for a lot of it,
he was sort of the face of the strike.
His name was Louis Kid Blink-Baletti.
He was a charismatic leader.
He was 18 at the time of the strike
and he had red hair and an eye patch over his left eye.
So his other nicknames included red blink, blind diamond and...
Oh my god.
Mugsy McGee!
Oh my god!
This guy could be the coolest man of all time.
Red hair and an eye patch?
Mugsy McGee!
Mugsy McGee!
Geez, he's got the big three. Red hair, everyone agrees. Yeah, cause the coolest of the hair colors
I'm right. I know I patch I mean, what's his name?
Kid Blink.
Yeah.
It started so well that I can't believe you continued
to top it as you went along.
Mugsy McGee.
You reached the tipping point with Mugsy McGee.
Here's a dollar.
So there was also the president of the newsboard union
at the time was 21 year old David Simmons,
who'd been selling papers since he was eight
years old. He was also a well-known amateur prize fighter at the local athletics club.
We also had Henry Major Butler.
Oh, that's too good.
Major Butts. That's good stuff.
He's got the best sauce number plate to show.
Oh yeah. He was
the leader of the Upper Manhattan Union. He was arrested on July 31st 1899 on the charge
of blackmail after telling executives at the New York world that he would not break the
strike for less than $600. So he was essentially like trying to bribe them. $600 back then is roughly the equivalent of about 20 grand, $21,000 today.
So he's sort of like, I'll break the strike for $20,000.
These kids are making a penny for each paper.
So that's a fuck ton of money.
Just because he's willing to be a scabbard at the right price.
That's right.
So for the price of about two million papers here, yeah.
Hey, go, you pay me that and then I'll definitely go back
to work.
I certainly will be on to the Bahamas.
No, definitely not.
I don't know that existed.
One of the biggest sort of milestones,
or like, yeah, most notable events in this whole strike is Irving Hall.
It was less than a week after the strike had begun.
There was a city-wide rally, which was held at Irving Hall in Union Square in Manhattan.
An estimated 5,000 news boys attended the rally.
Wow.
It was less than a week.
There's 5,000 of them striking and protesting.
It's crazy. The rally was sponsored there's 5,000 of them striking and protesting. It's crazy.
The rally was sponsored by State Senator Timothy D. Sullivan and was supported by the public
with many local businessmen and politicians addressing the crowd as well.
So it seems like the public really got on board and we're on the side of the news boys.
You think of 5,000?
Like, and they're each selling 100 papers a day or more, more maybe, maybe some of them do multiple bundles.
Dave, that's probably pretty easy maths.
How many papers is that?
500 billion.
That's, see, that's costing them quite a lot.
Yeah, we're missing one half a million papers a day.
Yeah, it's wild.
When the adults had finished speaking,
the union president, David Simmons,
read a list of resolutions saying that the strike
was to stand until the papers reduced their prices
and also calling on the newsboys
to adopt non-violent methods of resistance.
They're like, okay, guys, maybe put the horseshoes down.
A couple of weeks in.
That's the matter.
We're better thought.
Okay, all right, we're maybe-
The hospitals are overflowing.
Maybe they're not taking us seriously
because we're beating the shit out of everybody.
The strike leader, Kid Blink gave an impassioned speech,
saying, I'm trying to figure out 10 cents on top
on 100 papers can mean more to a millionaire
than it does to news boys.
And I can't say it.
Do I think it doesn't say anything you said
with the gun down his throat?
Oh.
And the face of Frick Frick.
Yeah.
It says, this is the time when we've got to stick together
like glue.
We know what we want, and we'll get it even if we are blind.
I don't.
Be seeing a bad guy.
He's seeing a bad guy getting a signal on that.
Yeah, so that patch.
What do you guys think I could pull it off?
I think you're putting Diamond T's on the other one, though.
Is that the double patch?
I think double Diamond T too much, but one Diamond T That's the double patch. I think double-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum too much, but one-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum too.
The blind diamond.
Oh! At the conclusion of the night, he was presented with a floral horseshoe for best
speech of the evening.
Yeah.
They did awards.
That's so good it was a horseshoe too.
Yeah.
Because he killed a few people with those, that way.
It was a blood-stained floral horseshoe.
The other sort of notable one of the night was Ed racetrack Higgins, who also gave a speech
representing the Brooklyn Union and several papers mentioned his use of humor in his speech.
Oh, let's say you get your message across with the humor in this one.
Classic racetrack.
He got his nickname because he had also was strangely in the shape of a racetrack.
Yeah.
Um, I'd look and fell.
Brooklyn life referred to him as a born leader of boys.
What?
And he may yet be of men.
Oh, my God.
His speech at the rally went off so well that the New York time said that if the news boys present
could have had a vote last night, race track Higgins could have had any office in their gift.
Right, it's like he's good.
President of the boys.
President of the boys.
He's a head boy.
Oh, head boy.
The dream.
Over the following days, the news boys also distributed flyers and hung signs around the city,
encouraging people to help them in their cause by not buying the world and the journal.
The public was on their side and chose not to buy the papers,
even if they were for sale, like if somehow papers got through and were at a news agent or whatever,
they wouldn't buy them. So sales plummeted quickly. World circulation dropped from 360,000 to 125,000.
So it's dropped pretty fast. The people seemed to be against us. Sites told poets around July 24
Oh, this is only like the last memory was the 23rd
See, it's just losing his mind. Bullets are not replying, but see, it's just gone. Oh god
He kept to be where like his it was just in boxer shorts. He's only a cat of lost McClood
Yeah, he's been sleeping at the office
A front He's been sleeping at the office. I don't know what's happening. A fronch.
He goes on to say, they're encouraging the boys and tipping them.
And they are refraining from buying the papers
for fear of having them snatched from their hands.
They're tipping the boys.
They're tipping the boys.
Wait, which car?
And here's a dollar.
That kind of tipping.
So they're supporting the news boys in this truck.
And financially.
Oh, well, I imagine the rival news page would be loving this obviously because they're
two of their biggest competitors out of the game. Maybe so fun.
And I'm sure that they're using that very responsibly. Oh, yes.
I imagine they're all and they all continue to pay their paper boys really well.
I'm sure they're trading their actual half the boys.
Yes.
I don't think you've got any interest.
It's all about the boys.
You meant the boys get around the boys.
I just want to look after the boys and some girls.
Make some noise.
Make some noise.
Support the boys, yeah.
That's right.
That's a great champion, well, the thing.
They're trying to give full credit to those boys.
Yeah, anyway, full credit to the boys.
That's what I, that's like, just you do a great to play smash. Yeah, yeah credit to the boys. That's what it looks like.
Just you do a great top.
Nice match.
Yeah, yeah, we do the boy right there.
We look full credit to the boys.
I went out there and got over a hundred and ten percent.
And it's always a hundred and ten percent.
Now, sorry, the young fellow, you've just had a great day handing out some papers today.
Have you seen, have you seen it today?
Yeah, that was a good match for me.
So, the third quarter, we really came back.
We in the locker room, we said,
now all we want to do is we want to go out.
We want to really push for the front.
And we did that, the boys went out, they go 100%
and I'm really proud of what the boys pulled out in today.
For respect to the opposition, obviously,
they brought a great game today.
It's not a plan, but we worked hard, we just got it done in the end.
And yeah, we're just taking a one-week at a time and...
You don't sound puffed enough, that's my only tip.
I'll be on the bench.
In my act, I don't look good enough to be on the field.
Just in my act, yeah.
I'm the captain, it didn't actually hear the question just out of talking.
Sometimes it's like, you didn't hear the question.
Yeah, no, no, no. Sometimes it's like, you didn't hear the question.
Yeah, no, no, no, no.
And how's your mum going?
Oh, full credit to the boys.
Yeah, 110%.
OK.
There was a bit of a scandal, though, a day or two
after the rally at Irving Hall, room is spread among the news
boys, that strike leaders, kid blink and David Simmons,
had betrayed the strike,
and agreed to sell the boycott of newspapers
in exchange for a bribe from the newspaper executives.
Oh my God, no, kid blink.
Well, both boys denied the charge.
They're like, what are you talking about?
Of course I didn't do a bribe.
It doesn't seem like that would make any sense,
because you're only, unless they're gonna use that influence
to stop the strike,
there's no point paying off individual boys,
just two boys.
Yeah, true.
Just fix the conditions they're asking for.
It doesn't sound like it was that unreads
before they're asking for,
can you just charge us whatever one else does?
Because we're finding it hard to make a living wage like this.
Now let's drag this on for a few weeks.
Yeah, so, but both Kid Blink and David Simmons denied it.
But some sources note that Kid Blink will close
a bit nicer than usual, indicating the possibility
that he may have accepted a bribe.
This is when his, when his,
time on tea.
Time on tea.
Time on tea, time on tea, time on tea.
It's a little bit flashy there, kid.
You've gone a bit far.
None of us are making any money at the moment.
Oh no, no, there are only diamond teas.
And someone's getting out the little life thing going.
That's 29 carats.
Is that a good amount of carats?
That's a lot of carats.
That's a lot of carats.
Yeah, but is a lot good?
Oh yeah.
Is it?
Yeah, you want more?
Get a remember of three seas.
Yeah. Carats, carats, car want more? Get a remember three C's. Yeah carrots carrots carrots
Give me a one up. I love carrots. I am a rabbit.
What's up dog? In response to these suspicions, Kidblink and David Simmons resigned from their
leadership positions and after the room is about Kidblink and David Simmons a
disertion of the strike combined with their failure to obtain a parade permit,
they'd be like planning to do this big parade
and nobody got a permit.
And then all the news boys, like, we're like,
ah, go, we've got no faith in you now.
No, we've got no permit.
Hey, Jess, so your Kid Blink, there's a press conference.
So what's brought up, you're resigning,
what's brought about this decision?
Oh yeah, no, yeah.
Now I'm full credit to the boys.
They went out and they gave 110%.
Some of them have thought I'm dressing a bit nice
with the normal.
As it turns out, I've just started dating a lady
who works at a laundry as she is cleaning my clothes.
These are the same pants.
I'm always warm.
They're just, they're actually a light brand, but they've been washed.
So people think they're new pants, they're the same old pants.
But now full credits of the boys,
they've got out there, they're followed their hearts.
And they've given 100% of it.
It's time for me to move aside.
They've gone in a different direction.
I like when they, in those ones as well, they're like,
you know, I'm just so about, you know, what it's done
in my family. Who won't you get a bet?
Oh, sorry, my family, my wife Sharon, who's still by me.
Sharon always sends by. But yeah, essentially, the news boys faith in it in a centralized leadership
was diminished. They're like, this may be the way we don't need one strike leader, one
face of it. Comet buses. But the strike over. You know me hardcore capitalist till I die.
The strike overall had been incredibly effective. Within a mere two weeks, the newsboy strike of 1899
had done so much damage to Hurst and pull its paper profits that
the moguls agreed to talk. On the July 27th with the boys. On July 27th the world and
journal offered to sell papers to the boys at 55 cents per hundred. No, not enough, Matt.
We'll meet you halfway if they're saying. But the union rejected the compromise. I
like, no, fuck you. No, fuck you. Yeah, if you said this
three weeks ago before I got on my beautiful clean horses or bloodied, then maybe. Maybe, but now
I've got to buy new horses. Yeah. Or figure out how to clean them. Yeah. And Sharon's left me.
Sharon's left me. She was not standing by me. So that was July 27, August 1st. The world and
the journal offered the newsboys a different compromise the price of a hundred newspapers would remain at
60 cents
Okay, I'm sorry
I can't offer but they would buy back any unsolved papers
Okay, so this meant that the boys who had had trouble selling all their papers wouldn't be forced to sell late into the night to avoid taking a loss for the day
So they could sort of go well look. I'm not the papers night to avoid taking a loss for the day. So they could sort of go, well look, I'm not, the papers, I'm not selling any more for the day.
I'm gonna call it here, and then the newspaper would buy them back.
Bit of work off, Boundon.
Yeah, exactly. So the newsboys accepted this compromise,
ending the strike, and they disbanded the union on August 2nd, 1899. They did it.
A bunch of kids fought against two millionaires,
such wealthy men fighting over a few cents to take it out of the hands of children.
Cool. That's a beautiful story. It sounds like the right people won. Yeah.
The 1899 strike was credited with inspiring later strikes in Montana and Kentucky.
And within the next couple of decades,
there were introductions of child welfare laws
that led to improvements in the news boys quality of life.
So it kind of, it had ripple effects as well,
which is nice, that's good.
The events of the 1899 strike inspired the 1992 Disney film
Muses,
including a character named Kid Blink,
who wears an eye patch.
But in this version of the story,
the leader of the strike was named Jack Kelly.
It is a musical, sorry Dave.
And Jack Kelly is played by Christian Bale.
No way.
Hey, young Christian Bale.
You're so young, yeah.
Bill Pullman is also in it. and Robert DuVyle plays Pulitzer.
Wow.
It's quite a cast.
It's quite a cast.
Oh wow, I've just seen a...
The first screenshot I've seen on IMDB, it's a bunch of kids singing, and I will not be watching that.
I mean, it is a musical, and you've just heard the story of the band.
Why are you surprised at kids singing?
But they were dressed exactly like you'd'd imagine and that's why it's a
note from there. They're also dressed a little bit like Dave Warnakie. How can
say you're wearing a... It's your own talent. I want to know that I think as
soon as you said newsboy I'm like I would have been a great newsboy. Yeah you would have been a great
newsboy. I think I've missed my prime but I think I could be out there being like come on come on down by the Harold son. Yeah, we got a great story about you should try selling records at the footie or something
Records
That'll age this they probably like 25 bills
Every week yeah, every game every game
Wow, you sweat in the records $2. So the record every week? Yeah, every game. Every game. Wow.
You swat in the record?
I think I felt media or something.
Something pretty excitingly namely.
Yeah, I think it's the one record, but each week will have its own individual.
I'm a ball-one for him to ice up.
Every regular box of him somewhere.
Yeah, wow.
Come back to 89.
Jesus Christ, you are old.
Yeah. As old as the wind. Try to tell you. Well, going back to 89 Jesus Christ you are old. Yeah
I was by a record before you were even born Wow, that's quite a record in itself that is records What is it is that like a normal term? I don't know what else you'd call the programs
I guess I could say for the for the program it would be like a theater program, but it's for a free game. Yeah
Who'd be playing the role of Full Four tonight?
The first time I heard of this musical newsies,
I think was when an episode a year or so ago,
I was trying to figure out where this joke
from, I remember from childhood came from,
where the guy goes, it's Weezel.
And a few people said, is that this movie?
It's not but I think
it's a joke that's been in a bunch of things somehow. Right. Well I think where I was thinking of
was Tile Spin, a Disney cartoon. But apparently there's something like that in this. I think
Newseys. Well a couple of people that suggested this topic say like Newseys is their favorite musical
because it was a Disney film, but then a musical adaptation
of the film also called Newsies debuted in 2011 on Broadway, oh, it played it on Broadway
from 2012 to 2014 and then toured for a couple of years as well. And in November of 2022,
a production of Newsies opened off West End in London for a limited run as well. So it's
a pretty big musical too. Right, I've never heard of it. Yeah, Newseys. We've really got to get back to the West End.
Yeah, it performs. Where we belong?
Which can we do a musical version of the podcast? I did pitch to
Dave and Jess before we started recording that we do a live show with the MSO,
the Muppets of New of any orchestra at some point.
I think that they seem to branch out more and more every year.
Yeah.
At least time they finally scored a live podcast.
I think that would be fantastic.
Yeah.
Um, higher meeting, higher.
That's right.
Double higher.
I don't see how you can go wrong.
I think that, yeah, does that,
I think that makes it triple higher.
I think that essentially be like parts of the orchestra
that would play for each of us.
I think mine would be like, I don't know, something kind of nice
that works, strings or something, and you also just be like,
Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, second up!
How was it gonna be like a jump?
What is going on?
In the future!
Every time we interrupt and start doing something,
Darvich just goes, oh!
Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Sorry, something high-ass. You interrupted Stank doing something dumb, it just goes oh
Sorry something high-ass yes
Hello Dave can be a drama something
We're base you love this
Quite sexy Anyway, I like how um Dave I'm sorry, we come back to this sporadically. This is going to be tough on Dave's says his town is turning things in a porn parodies.
How do you turn Muses in a porn parry?
Obviously first, first what you do is you are make sure all the
Boys are men. I think that's probably the first thing you do
Yeah, cuz it probably said something like new bees or something. It's like um young men 18 plus
In the office or something something but boobies is much better
Extra extra double-dave
Drop out it Dave's better at it That's right. Extra extra double dave, throw about it.
That's better at it.
Double dave about it.
I mean, I came up with boobies.
So maybe I'm better at it.
Okay.
Well, I know that.
It's just, uh, screwsies.
Screwsies, screwsies is better.
Screwsies is better.
It's a tighter rum.
Yeah, yeah.
Boobies is a bit, it's a longer bow.
Yeah.
Scruises his...
Scruises.
And what would the, instead of extra extra read all about it, it would be...
It's extra sex track.
Oh my God.
I'm so bad at this.
Yeah.
That one felt obvious.
Sex or sex track?
Sex or sex track?
I cream all about it.
Cream all about it.
Cream all about it.
Cream all about it.
Oh, okay. Oh my God. Oh. All right about it. Oh, okay.
Oh my god.
All right, you two, work very well.
Is the West End listening to this podcast?
This could be big. Is there an adult West End?
It's a south end.
Yeah, three-year-end.
That's silly.
Let me just, I've got one little paragraph left, because I like how all its interesting
sums it all up.
So as the Disney film proved so popular that it was later adapted for Broadway, but the
Disney version of the newsboy strike of 1899 does leave out some key details.
Namely, young newsies continue to struggle in poverty even after winning concessions
from Hurst and Pulitzer.
It took another 20 years for the United States
to enact child labor laws.
Until then, newsboys continued on as much as I always had.
But for one brief glorious moment,
the newsboys of New York City grabbed the world's attention.
They went head-to-head with some of the richest
and most powerful men, and against all odds,
this rag-tag- rag tag crowd roared
to victory. You know, I love anything that says rag tag. Well done. So that's a great way
of summing it up from all it's interesting. But yeah, it's like a, you know, it felt like
a kind of cute short story. I liked that it was a bunch of kids striking against some wealthy
men who could absolutely spare the cash.
And they won.
And they, yeah, it's a shame,
because obviously they can't,
it's hard to, when you're struggling for money
in the first place,
striking is a hard thing to do.
It's a big set for cost money.
Of course, yeah.
So, yeah, because you're like,
oh, we should say just stuck out at,
got the price reduction and the deal
that they could sell in back.
They kept it all.
But, you know, they also have to live.
And that's why I think it's a good system that we've got.
And there were no longer news boys.
They were newsmen.
Creme all about it.
Creme all about it.
I really did.
When I brought it up, I thought there's not a lot of room here, but boy was I wrong.
It's crazy, it's crazy.
It's coming next summer.
I mean, I had coming spell.
Yeah.
And you didn't know how coming spell.
Fantastic.
Now, it's time for everyone's favorite section of the show,
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You might be noticing that Jess has popped down a bit and she did a lot of chatting during this
episode. She told that report. She did most of the talking so she's just quietly sitting in the
corner of the room now. That's right. She's holding a microphone, but I don't know if she's big.
She is. Actually, she's holding a piece of paper now saying,
boppy's on strike.
Not boppy. Not boppy.
Not boppy.
Not boppy. No, boppy, please.
We need our boppy.
No, she's standing firm. Okay. No, she's at the runoff to go to a gig in a country town.
I'm trying to give a life performance in Bendigo.
She's giving one to the good people of Bendigo.
They're welcome.
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So yeah, you can start with all these sorts of levels.
I can't wait to start on that fourth bonus episode of month,
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That's right, Dungeons and Dragons, do go D&D.
There's a name in this somewhere,
we haven't quite worked it out.
The two biggest days out there, Dungeons and Dragons.
That's a double D.
And the first thing we like to do in this section of the show,
it takes about half an hour, maybe 40 minutes, and we think a bunch of different people have been supporting us on there.
And we have some fun along the way. We try to have a bit of fun.
We learn about them and each other. This bit of the show, it's for the supporters, but more than that it's for us.
That's right, feels my heart.
And the first thing we like to do is the fact-qu question section which has a little jingle go somewhere like this.
Fact quote a question ding.
Imagine how good that would be with the MSO under it.
Oh, that'd be so good with the MSO right under that ding.
Wow, the timpaniu do a big ding.
Yeah, and the timpaniu do.
Maybe like a percussionist over there with a little bell.
Yeah, yeah.
Or maybe on the clock and spills.
Oh, okay, good.
Yeah, really.
You'd have to work out the perfect note.
Ding.
Yeah, and that hit it every time.
Anyway, he always remembers the thing.
Oh, I always remember the ding.
And this section, if you sign up on the Sydney Sean
Big level or above, you get to give us a factor
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Really, whatever you like.
I'll read four of them out each week.
And I don't read them out until I read them out.
And you also get to give yourself a title.
The first one this week comes from Mark Wen.
Okay, perpetually confused. And Mark also get to give yourself a title. The first one this week comes from Mark Wen. Okay, perpetually confused.
And Mark.
Because his name is Mark Wen.
Mark Wen.
Mark Wen.
Mark Wen.
It's confusing for everyone.
Men please.
Man.
Man.
Man.
The other spell says it's men who get confused.
Yeah.
Man, men please.
Man.
Man.
Man.
And Mark Wen. Men, men, please. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 69. Nice. Nice. Do you guys have any hometown facts that you're weirdly proud of?
Oh, um, what do you say is your hometown? I would see the suburb I probably grew up in,
which is Eltham. And I went to Eltham East Primary School and there was a cricketer that had
gone there about 10 years or 15 years before, maybe 20 years before, other Miss Promise Club, I can't remember who it was.
Was it Tony, Tony Dolly Mad?
It was a character, wasn't it?
Tony Dolly Mad.
I, while you're thinking, I'll say, mine was probably, if it was content, content is where
Heath McCaw for the man behind Randy.
So I guess Randy the puppet is from my hometown.
I think you could say.
Oh yeah, great.
And from a rabbit, that is obviously the home of the saints.
So that's, I don't know if I brought that up before,
but yeah, St. Kutiful Ball Club is based in Marabin.
Yes, or is it Tony, Dottomade?
Well, I think I've got a feeling it was Adam Dale.
Adam Dale.
Do you know who played a couple of tests,
31 day internationals.
He was born in Ivan Her victorious,
he was checking out Born in 68.
So, you know, couple of decades older than I was,
did he play for?
Did he go to Althamie's primary school?
I feel like there was someone of a similar era
and someone like that, you know, was there a bit.
Well, that is a great claim to fame.
And...
Ha ha ha, sorry, this is, not as exciting as you were probably thinking. Bob that that is a that's a great claim to fame and
Not as exciting as you are probably thinking yeah, it's not quite co-writer of summer of 69 is a day, but no not quite close
It's a great question though. I love that okay one time. Okay. We was at the calls the Coles in Elton, and one of the great actors, comedians,
media personalities, Miriam Margulies,
was there because she, for a while, lived in Elton.
Wow, did she?
Has she ever spilt the teo new?
I often see that in my news feed,
there's an article about Miriam Margalees spills the tea on working with someone or other.
Oh, the best thing is she just doesn't give a shit.
Yeah.
Which I love.
They're the people who love filling tea the most or don't even love it.
They just do it.
What about this Dave?
When I used to work at Safeway Marabbon, Woolworths, that's a supermarket.
Regular customers who used to shop as a band, she had.
She had? Wow!
Yeah. For a while, also known as.
They were known as Pacifier. Pacifier, wow!
Yeah, yeah. And I love that they just walked down the aisles, pushing a trolley, the four of them.
What a time.
Wow, this, according to Altham'sikipedia page notable residents include Wilbur Wilde Wow
Merrick Watts didn't know that says here cadet leavens cyclists. Holy whenever the two are to France. These are some big names
Peter Hitchner newsreaders. It's true. He's the Hitch from Altham
Altham is a it's a real hot spot. Emily Browning, the actor I did know that
because she was a couple years old at the main school
but I went to a different school
but I knew people that went to school with her.
Is that so?
Emily Browning.
In a bunch of shows, a movie,
it seems like a child actor,
but then also has gone on to be in lots and lots of stuff.
Yeah, cool.
Merrick, what is the first stand-up show ever saw?
And I was, when I did Subradi
Les and Numbers last year or this year whenever it was, he was on and I said that.
I said it too. I said, you're the first. You're the first comedy show I ever saw.
I'm Eric. I'm a pleasure to meet you.
That's got to mean, and he looks better than ever, doesn't he? Oh, I fit as a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a fit of a Oh, yeah fit as a fiddle very fit man very fit man
What was the name of that actor? We've got side tracks so quickly. We don't have Emily Browning Emily Browning
That's right. I want to know. Oh, yep. Yep. I know her. I know from a bunch of things. Yeah, and still in lots of stuff
She went to your school. Well, she went to Elthamire school
Which is not school I went to but I knew lots of we had mutual friends
And a few parties and things like that.
Um, none of these show,
oh no, I've heard of the man who sued God with Billy Connolly.
I don't know if I've seen it though.
Limity, schnicket, ghost, ship.
What do I recognize?
I haven't seen anything, oh Ned Kelly with,
with the Joker. We hate Ledger. Oh, yeah. Oh boy.
Brains can't real well. All right. Who we taught? Mark, that was our first vertical question.
Feels like I read that out three weeks ago. Thank you very much, Mark.
And congratulations on living so close to where someone got their
first real sick string.
Damn right, so cool.
Next up I'd love to thank Lauren Joyner, aka Sandwich Aficionado.
I love a sandwich.
And Lauren is offering us a fact writing.
I'm using fact loosely here.
My husband and I audibly gasped in Unison while listening to episode 402, the great wine
fraud, because of the mention of Hollywood Jeff with one
F and his masterpiece, Gullies. Oh, yeah. That's so
funny, because I was listening, I wasn't on that episode, but
I was listening to that. I remember where I was in the
supermarket. When you heard Gullies, when I heard you were
talking about Gullies,'s, when I heard you were talking about Gouli's,
and they were like,
you were surprised that in England,
they're a nickname for balls,
because I'm like,
of course Gouli's are a nickname for balls,
but as I read it here,
G-H-O-U-L-I-S,
I wouldn't have connected the two there.
Yes.
Anyway, back to Lauren,
she continues by saying, we enjoyed watching truly shitty horror movies in October and this one, this was one of our picks in 2021, it has lived rent free
in my head since now, time for facts.
The movie was in production at the same time as Gremlins,
but stalled because of budget stuff.
So Gremlins came out first.
Oh.
Gulley's is massively different in that a college dude
inherits a mansion, and within like a day or two becomes
a satanic cult leader who tries to sacrifice his friends.
Brackets, I think.
Hahaha.
Including Mariska Hargity.
Oh wow. Oh wow. Lord, what a S-view in her first role. The Gouli's are just there, I guess. I still don't
understand how they factor in. The movie starts with a human sacrifice and the cover image
of the Gouli coming out of the toilet in suspenders was definitely not in the movie. Though
they added a toilet Gouli in post to make it seem more whimsical like Remlins.
Also the production company that made it is called Gouli Productions, so they were really putting
all their eggs in one basket or all their Gouli's in one toilet. All that to say watch it and laugh
at it. It's truly terrible in the best way. Thanks so much, Lauren. That's fantastic. Great one.
I love a follow-up on a tangent.
Yeah, I love that.
I was thinking that Gullis.
The guy was it, maybe the guy, the main character in that episode was he, did he have a hand
in producing that or something?
I think his friend was Hollywood Jeff.
He drank wine with the Hollywood Jeff.
And they're in a couple of those wine-drinking societies.
Not a true, but yeah. Hollywood Jeff. Ah, these are other, yeah.
Hollywood Jeff is so fine.
Thank you, Laura.
And the next one comes from Jacobi Austin, the angel.
And Jacobi, aka, a reformed writer of bloody long fact quotes
and questions, sorry, Jess.
And Jacobi, she's not listening,
she's taking the headphones off.
I was wondering why she had to head off.
She looked ahead at the facts and questions,
which I never do.
I don't read a mental, I read a man.
She hacked the doc.
And Jacobi's asking a question writing,
hello Matt Jess and Dave, he said in the rest,
but I refused to say.
Oh my God, Jacobi, I was sticking up for you.
I think he chose you because you're the strongest of us.
I can take it.
But also, you're the one who loves that joke the best.
Yes, and the rest.
After my last fact, which I accidentally marked as a question,
turned out to be a mini-report I decided that I must shorten these facts,
quotes, and questions for everyone, say,
I'd like to turn in an actual question this time.
And the question is, which parks and rec character are you most like?
Oh, I'm just like, yeah.
Great.
You can help me out there.
She's watched it like 38 times.
Oh, OK.
Who are my most like?
Who do I most like?
I think during COVID, I tried to watch it.
And I didn't get through the first season.
And everyone says, you don't watch the first season.
So the same thing.
Well, the celebration every show show, it's just so bad.
But, you know, I'm not sure who I would be.
They all seem nice.
Probably Leslie Mann.
No, what's Leslie?
Leslie Nope.
She's not playing the real person Leslie Mann.
Do you think I'd be Leslie Nope?
Yes or Nope? I'm going to say nope.
While you're thinking, Dave.
I don't want to admit it, but maybe I'm a bit uptight like Ben.
Who's the one that gets with Leslie?
Gets with it.
Well, they get together.
Is that Adam Scott?
Adam Scott.
It was a bit uptight.
I mean, I haven't listened yet, actually, but Adam Scott, Adam Scott? It was a bit uptight. I've been, I didn't
listen yet actually, but Adam Scott, I'm a lot of just a new series of there. You're
talking to me, podcast. Yes, you love that.
But it's with Bruce Springsteen. Oh, I'm the title of it is.
Good question. You spring in Springsteen on my bean. That's great. That's really, really
good. You can be answers. There's no question here. Jekobie answers his own question here.
Do you want to hear it, Dave?
Yes, please.
We always encourage people in the fact that question section to answer their own questions
if they can.
Jekobie writes, since it's my favorite show, I'm a bit like all the characters, but lately
I've been feeling a lot like Leslie.
Way too excited about things, very talkative and a huge love for waffles and other breakfast
foods. I'm trying to things very talkative and a huge love for waffles and other breakfast foods.
I'm trying to be more like Ron.
Yeah, well I don't think he's talking me out of feeling like Leslie there.
I like breakfast foods.
Yeah, I could definitely know Ron's big on eating meat.
Yeah, I need like also very handy.
Yeah, whereas I'm very handsy.
Your words, not my.
My fairy character's probably Jerry.
Jerry. You know Jerry.
Very funny.
Also notice Gary.
Okay.
Oh, I see Gary from Gary.
I've said people send me that meme a lot, which is just like a quote of the guy saying, I'm Gary from Gary Indiana or something.
I've seen most of it.
If there's a Gary, I'm going to say I'm a Gary.
But unless you can tell me who I am, you're in a better position than me.
I mean, it's difficult.
I don't know the show as well.
I feel like I've got the temperament of Ron Swanson, maybe.
At times?
You've got the mustache.
The mustache, that's what I mean.
I said temperament.
I meant tempera mustache. That's what I mean. I said temperament. I meant temper mustache. Great question, Jacobi. Dave, you've put him in a spin. He's taken his
very seriously. I'm trying to look at all the characters now being like, do I remember
who that one was? What about the guy who's now the superhero? Andy Dwyer played by Chris
Pratt. Yeah, my like him. He he's a bit goofy. Guppy him.
Very funny.
On purpose though.
Yeah.
No, not on purpose.
Yeah, that sounds like me.
Yeah, okay, maybe we'll give you that.
Give you that.
All right, I'm Chris Pratt.
And Jess, what are we,
are you gonna put in an asterisk that we can come back
to that question?
Because she didn't enjoy answering this one.
I think she's a big fan. She's big fan. She's got to be feel free to
Send it in again. Yeah, we want to know from jets
I mean that helps prove that we really don't really always here. That's where
Yes, she hasn't been lately, but she normally is the last one this week's come from the last one this week comes from sky
Okay, make her Maker Upper of Faxter.
Faxter.
And where you can write fake, if I quote a question, break suggestion, et cetera.
Skye has written Fake Fact.
Great.
Writing.
The green packers were all originally in Bar bombers and the name comes from the arse packing
Is this for the green bay packers?
I think I think it's better say the green bay packers, but it says the green at Packers
I wonder what time or night that came in
It's hard to know because in Australian time that came in. It's good, it's funny.
It's hard to know, because in Australian time,
that came in at nearly 3 a.m.
So depending on where Scott's from,
it would be so private that they might not be a pop fact.
Oh, it just popped into your mind, I've got it right there.
That's my fact, I've got the question.
It's a great fact.
I'm going to write this fake fact thing.
But it used to be in bar people and pack their asses.
It's a grenade at packers. Scott, that is fantastic, we're thinking so much. A lot of more fake facts, that's a fake fact that used to bombard people and pack their asses. The green at packers.
Scarlet is fantastic. We're thinking so much.
A lot more fake facts.
That's fun.
Really appreciate the fine work of Scarge, Kirby, Lauren and Mark.
Next thing we like to do is thank a few of our other great patron supporters.
Normally, Jess comes up with a bit of a game based on the topic of the day.
Dave, any thoughts on this?
What about striking for?
Yeah, or if they're like instead of news boys.
What kind of?
What kind of boys are they?
Newsies, news boys.
You could say what they're striking for.
Am I right?
Does this make sense?
Paper boys, is that a phrase?
Yeah, paperboys, that's what you were.
That's what I was when I was a kid, right?
That's what I was when I was a kid, right?
Yeah, that's right.
You used to paperboy.
You had a paper round.
Yeah.
You were a paperboy.
Paperboy.
But in the old times, or at least in the American times,
newsboys.
Newsboys.
Newsboys.
Newsboys. It's not as good.
Newsies. Surely, paper boy. That just sounds better. The peas. The peas and the peas.
Got it all. All right. How about, do you want to read out the names?
Or do you want to come up with the kind of boys they are? How about I start out reading out the names
in the name? We can swap. Okay. Okay. From Mount Pleasant in South Carolina.
Okay.
We have Alex Drew.
Thank you, Alex.
A garden boy.
So this is what Alex does.
And I was hearing about this from Bill Bryson book, but there was a time where rich people
would pay for someone to live in their garden like a living gnome and they have their own little house
and they just have to be there and just live there. That was the job and they got paid.
Put the job is to look after the garden. No, no, the job is just to be the living gnome.
So that's what Alex drew as a garden boy.
Just living in a garden a little harder. Apparently everyone lost interest and I want to have a stuck around.
I'm wondering if it's, if there's enough in it for a topic that sounds incredible
It's really interesting is it's just kind of like I'm rich enough. I'll have this yeah
It's just like for my entertainment. It's just a bit of fun in the garden
I've got a lot of people have a little concrete known. I've got a real name. I've got a real name
Wow Alex true, true.
I wish this for these people, if you're not a boy or never been a boy, you're all honorary
boys this week.
Wow.
And Dave has the power to do that.
He's a head boy.
I'm a head boy.
And I'm bestowing upon you the right to call yourself a boy.
Next up, we have from location unknown.
We can only assume it's deeper than the fortress of the Moles.
And thank you to Ariel or Ariel Woodhouse.
Oh, what a great name.
It would have made a great name for a gun boy.
But I think Ariel Woodhouse is a flyboy.
Okay, talk me through a flyboy.
You flyboys.
Flyboy, well they can, they can fly basically, but winged boys. But again,
this is just rich people pay you to wear wings and they have a harness rigged up. So they're like,
you look like you're a butterfly basically. So they got a big butterfly butterfly in closure.
I'm just sort of hanged from the ceiling.
And they're sort of like you're flying around.
That's your full-time gig.
You got 24-7.
Not 24-7, you get your eight hours on.
There's three of you that rotate.
Right, but it's a flying fly out.
It's a fly out.
It's a fly-fo gig, yeah.
Great one.
From Limousoul in... Oh my god, where's CY?
CY, I think a Cypress maybe?
Yeah, my goodness.
Could it be?
Could it be?
Limusol in Cypress, fantastic.
A big shout out and a big thank you too.
I've lost the tabby, because I was just so excited about looking at my limusol as big
thank you to Andrew Beer.
Andrew Beer. Andrew Beer.
Oh, that's crazy to be a boy.
Could it be a beer boy?
Could it be a boy?
I think Andrew Beer is a beer boy.
So what Andrew does is he lives in a rich person's bar
in their basement.
And he just, it's like a standing spa,
but it's in the shape of a stone,
a rust-on stone full of beer.
And he's just there, like arms up on the edge of the stone.
All right, like you swam up to a swim up.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, but he's just swim up.
For swim up, yeah.
So he's just there, just to add a bit of ambiance
into the rich people's home bar.
Yeah, that's my, that's my, that's my boy. That's my bear boy.
Thank you so much to be able to be able to look at Limusole.
It's on the southern coast of Cyprus.
It's known for the centuries old Limusole castle
and home to the Cyprus Medieval Museum.
Be boy.
So good.
I'm gonna say it looks very beautiful.
Thanks, bear boy.
And thank you now from Greenville. Also, South Carolina,
my goodness, it's Garrett Denali. Garrett Denali, homeboy. And it's a Garrett basically what he does,
a rich person right? Yeah. Pays for Garrett just to be around the home. Yeah. Just to see, just like,
oh no, no, no, people will say sometimes the rich are out of touch
or whatever. But what Garrett does is he allows his own or employer, you could say, to
be like, no, no, I'm certain touch I've got my own homeboy. I talk to them, you know,
most weeks. He keeps me grounded, my homeboy. My homeboy keeps me grounded. I've got
to keep my homeboys around. And yeah, Garrett is one of many homeboys
The ritual the more homeboys you have oh wow, so you have like a full full on to Raj of homeboys
Roger homeboys if you're you know quite wealthy everyone's got a turtle
Like a yeah, that's a different
Good on you Garrett to N Danelli, great name. And thank you to two people this time,
from Appleton all the way over in Wisconsin.
Thank you to Harrison and Rebecca Alice.
Appleton makes me think,
it makes me think, multiples, we got boys and berries.
Harrison and Rebecca are the boys and berries.
So rich people pay for them.
Sort of like in a Willy Wonka top thing, well, they've figured out
the recipe to make
human boys and berry boys.
Oh, I can't.
Harrison and Rebecca, they each morning when they clock on, they ate the syrup.
Yep.
Well, drink it. Syrup's funny because it's sort of, it's very viscous, so do you eat it or do you drink it?
Mm, I chew it.
Yeah.
Just make sure.
And yeah, they have that.
They become boys and berries, which were of course, I think, popularized on that farm
in America.
That's right.
We did a Patreon bonus episode where I talked to you and just through some words named after people and boys and berries named after
the creator of the boys and berry something boysen. Yes
Basically sold the idea for a very low price to another farmer who made millions of it made boys and berries
It's a mixture of other berries cross bread together
And Harrison and Rebecca cross bread to make the boys and berry boys.
Wow, and you never believe this.
They're from Appleton in Wisconsin.
And that is not very far from Green Bay, Wisconsin, where?
Where they pack our sas.
As the funeral people, I think it looks to be about 10 to 20 K out of Green Bay.
Well, yeah, Appleton is such a nice name for a place.
The sound lovers.
I'd like to thank now from Crest Meade in Queensland, it's Kylie Tully.
Kylie Tully is a boy wonder.
So what Kylie does is she's hired by a rich man, Bruce Wayne, and basically just a sidekick, Judy's. So I'd give something for Bruce to bounce off.
Yeah, right.
Sometimes literally.
Yeah, yeah.
Pow.
Bounce, boeing.
So he uses them like a human trampoline.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a curly tough job, but it's well-paying job.
But exactly.
He's a billionaire.
Yeah, yeah. Come on.
And we know all know that billionaires get that way
by paying everyone fairly.
And he's like giving away their way
and acting ethically in every single possible way.
Thank you to Carly.
I would like to thank now from Gilroy in California, A.
Maybe so rough on billionaires today
is gonna come back to part me
when I'm a really big billionaire.
It's embarrassing for you.
People will pay this tape to you. Delete the'm a really big billionaire. It's embarrassing for you. People will play this tape here.
Delete the tapes.
Oh my gosh.
I was being ironic, I think actually being a billionaire is one of the most cool things
you can do.
Some of the most human things you can do.
Yeah, sometimes sharing means keeping it, you know, sharing isn't always giving.
Sometimes it's taking and keeping.
I share it with myself.
Yeah, just in case.
I'm keeping it safe for everyone.
That's right, I trust myself,
but I don't trust anyone else.
No, so I'm gonna keep it and let me know if you need it.
No, no, let me know if you really need it.
No, this doesn't count.
No, your way doesn't your life,
livelihood doesn't count.
Ah, from Gilroy and California, it's Rowan Williams.
What about Rowan Williams is the bin boy.
Oh, bin boy.
No, rich people.
Yes.
I don't like getting their hands dirty.
No.
And often the dirtiest part of taking out the trash,
is when you put it in the trash camp.
It's when you put it in the bin,
and you drop it off, but don't worry.
There's a human bin boy that pops up,
Oscar the Grouch, and says,
I'll take that, sir. In fact, doesn't just say that, thank you sir. Thank you sir. May I have another thank you for this bag of
Traces I will treasure this I'll treasure this bag of rubbish sir to me. It's not rubbish. It's gold
And that that accent comes from Rowan Williams from Gilroy, California
The sun shone off his voice, okay. And second to last, but definitely not second to least.
Exactly.
From location unknown.
Another fortress well, we can imagine it's Kazaya O'Neill.
Kazaya.
Kazaya the Messiah.
Kaziah is not the Messiah.
Kaziah is just a very naughty boy.
The naughty boy.
The naughty boy.
The naughty boy.
And rich people need these around.
You need a naughty boy.
Some of them are used to go on gestures, but they say they call them naughty boys.
And they do, you know, they just do silly things to sort of appease the king and queen.
Yeah, do a bit of juggling, falling over to slapstick.
And the modern day king and queens are of course media moguls.
You're a bit of a paradox.
And finally, I'd like to thank from location also unknown.
Maybe right next to, because I are in the fortress. Thank you to
Paul Paul, you know who are Paul?
Sir name such a then. I don't know if Paul is looking to be staying anonymous
I'm just going off your email address there Paul just in case you're going could that be me could it be me?
How many Paul's in this mall house?
Right your hands, but it's so dark in there, they can't see.
Who's got, how many have you got? Now click your hands.
Okay, I'm confused, I'm hearing a lot of clicks.
It's like I'm once each, but then not at the same time.
One after the other, please.
Ah, start again. I've lost count.
And Paul, the final boy is the final boy.
Oh, the final boy.
The last ever boy.
Wow. So, what the rich people have done to Paul is they've frozen him in time.
As we're all, as humanity starts to die out, they're realizing that eventually everyone's
gonna be old and we'll have no boys left.
And they're like, as all the poor, as all the poor and the world dies, they're all too
old. The rich people to have babies. So they've got the the final boy, the forever boy.
The forever boy is Paul. So they share him around. Everyone gets a week with the boy, the forever boy.
I want to just sit in your lounge room. Yeah, and you go, hey, that's the boy. The last ever boy we've got in this way.
Yeah, we've got the boy this week. Do you want to play catch final boy? Yeah, that's all stuff so you get like one of those velcro balls and just throw it at the tank
That's yeah the balls throw frozen in yeah, yeah
Well, you know
Frozen in some sort of tank
Austin power style
I was thinking that the technology said they could just like go you don't age now
Frozen
The wire phrase that I think most people are saying like yeah, we also were picturing a boy and a block
Thanks to all our great boys.
All the best boys.
They're all the best boys in the world.
Yeah, they each had a different title,
but all in all, the best boys.
Thank you so much to Paul,
because I row in Kali, Harrison, Rebecca,
Garrett, Andrew, Ariel, and Alex.
The last thing we need to do, Dave,
is welcome a few people into the Triptage Club.
This week it looks like we have seven inductees.
Now, do you wanna explain what this thing's all about?
I bet, this is our Hall of Fame,
our Triptage Club where we celebrate,
people that have been supporting the show
for three consecutive years,
we've already given them a shout out,
but to enshrine them in our Hall of Fame,
we welcome them into the clubhouse,
the name goes up in a wall,
everyone cheers them as they come in. It's a real theater of the mind experience
just as behind the bar, got food and snacks, I book music, mats there, hanging out with
you, playing some snooker, playing some foosball, you know, we've got the big game, whatever
you want it to be, up on the screen. We've got the biggest game of all exactly. We've got the game of laugh
Yes, we got secret cameras and people times and we put them up. This is what I imagine rich people do
It is what does watch people
It's a yeah, it's real
Katniss Ebidane stuff
Yeah, can I never remember one piece of that world right now?
I can't think of the name of it the hunger
The hunger is it's a real hungry. It's a real Hunger Games.
No. Susanne Collins. Sometimes I just remember the bird or whatever, but I now can't
remember that bit. My brain home, the ever has room for one part.
One bit. Well, you've got catness, that's a good part.
No, you've pushed that bit out by saying Hunger Games. Anyway, so we've got seven inductees
this week. Just normally has some food up
behind the bar. She let us know that the food they're serving this week is fish and chips wrapped
up in newspaper. Oh my gosh. And the drinks are their Newsy drinks and they're just made with
black and white and they're red all over the black black samboca, the white milk.
This is exactly what I did last week.
It was black 100 and the rents cranberry juice.
We've re-batched it.
No one drank them last week.
It was a new name.
And yes, and David booked a band.
You know, we booked a band.
You're never gonna believe it.
This person has been gracing our screens
for 35 years now
35 years and I was a takes a long time to book this has been 35 years in the making over since I saw this man when he was butter boy
You're not talking about I am talking about Emily Browning star no even hold a star of
Musis
Christian Bale is here to do a mixture of music and monologues
Oh, I already the mon here to do a mixture of music and monologues.
Oh, are any of the monologues him abusing the crew?
That's the uncle.
That's the uncle.
He's coming out and absolutely eludes.
Oh, yeah, the losing is mind at some poor crew member.
Yeah, that's going to be fantastic.
Oh, and if you, you know, it could be you.
So if you play it, we'll going to be fantastic. Oh, and if you, you know, it could be you. That's how you play it.
That's right.
We'll get you on stage.
And you'll have a camera in your hand and he'll come out and absolutely berate you.
Oh, wow.
That's the kind of stuff you can get.
These are the once in a lifetime opportunities you get inside the trip ditch class.
That's right.
And definitely listeners, we do now know that it's pronounced trip dick.
That's right. It's a joke. It will be a do now know that it's pronounced tryptick. That's right.
It's a joke.
It was way it's been in our room.
We've been in on it.
My art teacher and I just sit it wrong.
I've just sat it wrong.
So you've passed it on to so many people.
I know.
We've even had someone comment before saying
that they corrected someone.
They said tryptick and they're like,
actually it's tryptitch and then they were wrong.
That gave me the old full body cringe.
I felt so bad for you.
I'm so sorry.
But take it up with Miss Dale.
Any relation to the cricket up?
For Adam Dale.
Oh my God.
Maybe.
Remember that's what I was thinking of.
For almost two years.
I thought you were, when you said Adam Dale, I thought Alan Dale, the Australian actor,
who was on Naibas and then the OC and I believe that is what I first typed into Google
I would believe that cricket a Ellen Dail it said did you mean Adam Dail and I went yes, and you're also confusing with the South African fastball
Ellen Dail stain. Oh
Yeah, or you're talking about Ellen Donald's
Alan Donald
The so many so
Anyway, we've got 17 duck days this week.
Dave's on stage is going to be hopping you up.
The crowd's going to go wild.
I'm on the door.
I'm going to lift the velvet rope.
I'm going to read your name off list.
Jogging.
We want you getting up a bit of momentum.
So you can really receive the adulation
as it's intended.
And that is with some force.
Some velocity.
All right, here we go.
First up, I'd love to welcome into the club
from Minneapolis, Minnesota. In the United States, it's Zoe. Zoe is my bro.
One of the great boys.
That's right. It's a very boy episode this one.
From St. Vite, some Vite and Goulson in Austria. Incredible. It's Daniel Graham.
Bam.
Wham.
Wham, bam, thank you, Daniel Graham.
From Reservoir in Victoria here in Melbourne, Australia,
Emily, Emma, Emma, Lesk.
Reservoir, never a bore, it's Emma Lesk.
And from Rosetta in Tasmania, Australia,
I'd love to welcome into the club.
We met this man during the comedy festivals, David Lauren.
Absolutely delight.
Nothing better from Rosetta.
It's David Lauren.
What a delight catching the late flight.
Yeah.
That's right.
I'd love to say I'd love to welcome into the club from Brown Hill, beautiful name for
a place.
In Victoria.
Australia, it's Page Winkle.
Turn the page, what do you see?
It's Page Winkle.
So, you get everything.
Turn the page.
What do you get?
It's Page Winkle.
This is my mark.
The, yeah.
Yeah.
And from address unknown, I can only
show him from tip within the fortress of the moles
It's Katie possibly with the center. I'm starting with B more like Katie 180
So it's Katie 180. Yeah Katie 180 pretty good. You turn back around and come back in here
That's where we want you come on in 10 the page 180
What about winkle that There's something there.
Oh, uh, sprinkle.
I need more than just a sprinkle of page Winkle.
Yeah, fantastic.
So, there's something there.
And finally from Coleroy Plateau.
Can you shut up, wow?
I don't know about that.
You're in Australia.
It's Locky Tues.
The new Brocky, it's Locky Tues.
Locky Tues are Locky Tues.
Locky Tues. Let me write some pros.
They once was a man named Locky.
Is your pros in the form?
I've been dirty, whimmering.
I've been dirty, whimmering.
Thank you so much and welcome to the club.
Please make yourselves at home.
Grab some fish and chips.
Grab one of our leftover cocktails.
Get ready to be paraded by Christian Bale.
Locky K, the page. David, Amalesque, Daniel and Zoe.
You're in here for life.
Sorry, but why would you want to leave?
Why would you want to leave?
It's everything you want.
No, they're all so leave you.
Thank God.
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