Do Go On - 414 - The Newsboy Strike of 1899

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

We’ve seen them in old timey movies, but I don’t think we really understand how important newsboys were to the distribution to news at the turn of the 20th century. And in 1899, the newsboys of Ne...w York took on two of the most powerful men in the US...This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 06:07 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://allthatsinteresting.com/newsboy-strike-of-1899https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/newsboys-strike/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsboys%27_strike_of_1899https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Pulitzerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Randolph_Hearst Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.
Starting point is 00:00:20 If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of DoGo One. My name is Dave Warnikey and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello. Hey Dave, Jess, how good is it to be a live?
Starting point is 00:00:57 Quick question that was. Don't have to answer it now. Have a think about it. I'll mull on it. Yeah, I need time. Is there a multiple choice? Yeah. Or?
Starting point is 00:01:07 No. Okay. It's A or B type of scenario. Okay. I'll think about it. Yeah or no. Just, do you have anything you want to say? Well, I think I'm leaning towards no.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Because personally, I wish I was never born. Is that true? Yeah. But you've done so much with your life. What have I done? List it from 1990 onwards. Okay, you were born? Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:25 That bit you wish never happened. I wish that never happened. From there, you grew into a child. Yes. And then I think from there an adult. I was a teen in between. What teen in between? I mean, that's a three things now.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Wow. And that brings us up to the present day. I have packed a lot in. You're right. Maybe it is good to be alive. Oh, wow. Yeah. I'm still thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I'm thinking about going with option C all of the above. Sometimes good, sometimes not so good. Now, that's life. That's a roller coaster. I love's a highway, if you ask me. I'm going to ride it all that long. Now, Matt, what are we doing you? What is this show?
Starting point is 00:02:03 This show is called Do Go On and it's all about little things. Yeah, little stories. Stories. Sometimes big stories. Sometimes. We're done World War I. Not this week. No.
Starting point is 00:02:13 We're going on for a small story. this regard. It's a little story. Good one. I can't wait to find out what it is. So the way it works is one of the three of us picks a topic or sometimes the patrons vote for a topic. Usually suggested by a listener, we go away, we research that topic.
Starting point is 00:02:27 We write up a little report about it. Sometimes like last week, too big of a report. And then we bring it back and tell the other two all about what we have learned while they kind of interrupt and make tedious sort of dog ship riffs. and ask questions that probably make some people annoyed. Yeah. And this week, Jess is doing the report, and we always get under the topic with a question.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Jess, what's your question this week? My question is, what group of people are known for their catchphrase, extra, extra? Paper boys. Is that right? No, extra extra. Pepperoni boys.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Extra pepperoni. Dave, I'd jump in if I were you. Is it Wrigley's extra extra? Gum. It is not, okay? I thought, because Matt's basically got it, but I could have been a tedious dickhead and been like, it's not quite the wording. Newspaper boy? Newspaper salesman.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Take out the paper. Newsboy. Newsboy. Dave got it. Well done, Dave. I got him one. Newsboy. Newsboy.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Which are essentially newspaper boys. That's like what kind of person, newsboy. Newsboy. I don't think I've ever, I feel like I've only ever heard them called paper boys. Or am I thinking of boys made of paper? You're thinking of boys made of paper, yes. Oh, damn it. That's not what we're talking about?
Starting point is 00:03:49 It could be, you know, maybe in Australia we would have called them paper boys. And this story is set in the US of A. Oh, is the A for Australia? Yes. And this is a report about newsboys, specifically the newsboy strike of 1899. Wow, okay. It's been suggested by quite a few people. It's been suggested by...
Starting point is 00:04:12 Sorry, can I stop you there out there. I got a dog ship riff. Is US of A, is that us of Australia? Okay, go on. And yes. So the newsboy strike has been suggested by Sarah McGlagan from Edinburgh. Sarah McGlagan? Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Fantastic. J.J. Grayson from Glasgow. Betsy. I mean, J.J. Grayson in any other room would have the best name. But he's come straight after Jesse McGlagan. Sarah. The sister, too? Betsy, Newtatelli from West Sacramento.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Well, welcome to telly, Betsy. Meg from Norwich. Uh-huh. Come on, you can't stop now. Meg from Norwich. Beautiful part of the world. Good on you, Meg. Hope you like egg.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Your name sounds like one. Barbara Gordon from Vancouver. Barbara Gordon. And a Barbara Gordon to you too. Barbara Gordon. And Daniel Spring from Philadelphia. Wow, so it's all over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Just bringing this step for Daniel. Quite spread out. Yeah, because you said it's in the United States of America. I've never heard of the Newsboy Strike of 1899, but I hope they got what they want. And I'm going to talk about it for five hours. It is your passion. That's my passion. I love it.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I've loved it my whole life. And we've actually got a special guest who hosts a weekly News Boy Strike podcast with us for some extra. Extra facts. For people who skipped last week's five-hour episode, it was about the St. Kilda Football Club, and it included a guest. from a podcast about the St. Kilda Football Club, so Dave's making a little funny riff there. Matt will be explaining all of the jokes or attempted jokes.
Starting point is 00:05:50 All of the references will be explained. You will never feel left out on this podcast. Yeah, because there's a big strike going on at the moment. At the time of recording in America with the Writers' Guild. And the actors. And the actors guild. Yeah. A couple of the two big guilds.
Starting point is 00:06:06 You'd be a member of the Australian writers and actors guilds, wouldn't you, Dave? Oh, yeah. No, I'm actually not part of any guilds. I want to be a part of a guild. I wouldn't mind being part of a guild. Should we just start a guild? Yeah. Because I can't...
Starting point is 00:06:18 Oh, that's nice. There probably is one, isn't there? Probably. We could do PGA tours. Exactly. We'll do our PGA tours. I think that'd be nice. The Comedy Festival, that's one of the majors.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah. Now watch this drive. I don't know what that. Anyway. So, newsboys. We've seen them in old-timey movies. Absolutely. But I don't think we really understand how important they were to the distribution of news at the turn of the 20th century.
Starting point is 00:06:50 This is during a time when newspapers were printed and distributed at least twice a day. The morning papers were often delivered directly to subscribers. But afternoon papers relied exclusively on newsboys to sell them. Wow. They were usually, newsboys were usually quite young. Some apparently as young as seven. And they were often from poor immigrant families. Some, in fact, lived in lodging houses that were created to help the homeless youth of New York City.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And the first of these lodging houses was opened in the mid-1850s and offered a bed and a bath for six cents and a meal for an additional four. Incredible value. Over the time, they often incorporated a school as well, allowing the children to attend classes in the morning or evening, as most of them had to work to support themselves. I just thought that was kind of interesting and not a terrible system to get kids off the streets. Like in the mid-1850s, they were like, we'll give you a roof over your head. Now we don't do that. Where do we put the roofs? Wherever, like underfoot.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Oh, yeah, that is a bad system. Yeah. That's not where they go. Sometimes it's sideways. Oh, my God. That's a wall. That's a wall. A side roof.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Thank you for the wall, but call it what it is. Yeah. Don't tell me that's a roof. Tell you what, there are clowns up on Capitol Hill at the moment, aren't there? Or whatever we call, Canberra? Sometimes, you know how sometimes rains come in sideways. Mm-hmm. Then that particular roof is helpful.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Right, you're welcome. Okay. But that's not that often. Yeah, could you put a roof on top of these other roofs? Yeah, please. But now how am I going to get in? Well, you make a smaller inserted roof on a hinge. A hinge roof.
Starting point is 00:08:26 A hinged roof. Oh, that's good. That's nice. According to all that's interesting.com newsboys and sometimes girls, but usually boys, had long made up the fabric of booming metropolis like New York City darting between carts and hanging out on corners they hawked the day's paper for a penny
Starting point is 00:08:43 by the time of the newsboy strike of 1899 the number of newsboys had exploded thanks to the recent introduction of evening additions which people grabbed for their commute home so they're printing even more papers they need a third run maybe they're a third run of papers they need more newsboys out on the street
Starting point is 00:09:00 get those papers to the people So how it worked was the newsboys would buy a stack of papers at 50 cents per 100 and then they'd sell the papers for a penny, one cent. So they made a profit of half a cent per paper. Right on. So you sell what, 20 papers? You got yourself a meal? You got a bath?
Starting point is 00:09:20 You got a bed. I guess so, but you also spent 50 to buy the paper. So you've got to sell them all really to make it. You've got to sell at least half to make some of that money back. Oh, got you. You got yourself a hinged roof. You got yourself a gym. But so, yeah, so they're marking it up by, what, 100%.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Is that right? Yeah. They're buying a half a cent, selling them for one cent. Yeah. How they thought about selling them for two cents. Whoa. They're giving more money. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Maybe that's what this strikes a little bit. That could have solved this strike a lot sooner, actually. This system worked for a long time. Yeah, it kind of gave the kids. so kids obviously weren't raking it in, but they'd have enough to potentially keep a roof over their heads and buy a stack of papers the next day and keep it going. It worked for a long time.
Starting point is 00:10:13 There were some short-lived strikes in 1886, 87 and early 89, but 10 years later in mid-1899, the newsboys would set off a strike that would have ripple effects into newspaper circulation and would inspire a Disney musical, almost a hundred years later. Whoa. Aladdin. And the reason for this strike
Starting point is 00:10:37 came down to the actions of two men, Joseph Pulitzer and William Randolph. That's good stuff. What'd you say? Prize. Pulitzer and Price. Great.
Starting point is 00:10:49 It's good stuff. Edit that bit out. Jess start again. Sorry about that, everybody. Jess, go again from the top. Then we can cleanly edit out that what I thought was quite fun. But as it turned out when Dave said,
Starting point is 00:11:00 What did you say? I realized, no, it wasn't fun. It was annoying. No, no, no, it was just the... Both of you cancelled each other out, and all I heard was, huh. Yeah, yeah, it was my fault
Starting point is 00:11:11 because the middle of my sentence interrupted the start of Matt's. Didn't you know he was about to start talking? What you should do is pause after every word just in case he's got an idea. You never know. Possibly have seven seconds after each word just in case.
Starting point is 00:11:26 He has a really good sense of when I'm trying to build suspense too. Yeah, that's right. So, yeah, go from the top. Because I've heard of some of these names, I believe. Can we go again? The reason for this strike came down to the actions of two men Joseph Pulitzer and William Randolph Hurst.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Ooh, he's big. Patty Hurst's dad. Patty Hurst's dad. I don't know who Patty Hurst is. I suppose I agree. Patty Hurst is the one who had the term Stockholm syndrome sort of applied to her. She made it a popular term. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I don't know if we've talked about that. Does she kidnapped? She's the daughter or the granddaughter? Maybe granddaughter. Probably granddaughter, I think, yeah. And she ended up... So it's a very wealthy family. She ended up being like...
Starting point is 00:12:10 Like she did some arm robberies and stuff and ended up getting in trouble for it. I think that's been suggested. I think it's in the hat. I think people have... I think it's a pretty harrowing story for her. Yeah. Really bad.
Starting point is 00:12:22 We don't ever do harrowing stories. No, exactly. That's why we haven't done that story yet. We like to keep it nice and light. So a little bit about them first. So Joseph Pulitzer was a Hungarian American who moved to the US. in 1864 when he was in his late teens, where he fought for the Union and the American Civil War.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And although he spoke German, Hungarian and French, Pulitzer learned very little English until after the war. He's sort of able to get by mainly with German during the war, apparently. So he's in the US. He's there for quite some time. Still doesn't speak English. After the war, he moved around a little bit, eventually ended up in Missouri.
Starting point is 00:13:00 He worked odd jobs, spent his free time studying English, and was a prolific reader. And in 1868, he landed a job as a reporter for the Westlitch Post, a German language newspaper. He became involved in politics, and in 1878 he bought the St. Louis Dispatch and merged it with John Dillon's The St. Louis Post, forming the St. Louis Post and Dispatch, which they soon renamed to just Post Dispatch. All beautiful names for a paper. They got rid of the end? Yeah, post dispatch. It was a hyphen now.
Starting point is 00:13:38 With his own paper, Pulitzer developed his role as a champion of the common man, featuring exposés and a hard-hitting populist approach. The paper was considered a leader in the field of sensational journalism. So they were going for like, if it bleeds, it leads. They were going for like big eye-catching headlines and stuff, which I find I didn't know that. And I find it funny that the Pulitzer Prize. exists now.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah. But anyway. That is so funny because what is the Pulitzer Prize is like for excellence in journalism or something. And you're like, but he was a leader of sensationalist news. I think a lot of awards are just like he funded it at some point. Exactly right. So it's him going, I want a legacy like the bomb maker who does the noble prizes. And I think the Australian one is like funded by an oil baron.
Starting point is 00:14:31 What's the Australian one? The Australian media awards, are they called the big ones? Quills? Not the quills, okay? The Walkleys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe maybe he was like, you know, another guy who just wanted to have a... It's a great rebrand.
Starting point is 00:14:45 A legacy. If my work was described as sensational, I'd be pretty happy with that. I just want to say. But nobody will say it, Dave. Yeah, they won't. They won't. And that's on you. You've got to lift your game.
Starting point is 00:14:57 In 1883, he traveled to New York and made an offer to Jay Gould to buy another newspaper the New York world. Jay Gould had acquired the newspaper as a throw-in on one of his railroad deals. Yeah, we'll chuck in the paper as well. They just threw in a newspaper. And it had been losing about $40,000 a year. It wasn't doing very well,
Starting point is 00:15:18 so he was keen to get rid of it. So Pulitzer negotiated with him and eventually he purchased the paper for $346,000. Now, remember, like, to put it in perspective, the kids are selling the papers for one cent. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:15:36 And he's just paid $346,000 to buy a newspaper. That's losing money. It's big money, yeah. The world, the paper, immediately gained 6,000 readers in its first two weeks under Pulitzer and more than doubled its circulation to 39,000 within three months. So he really turned it around really quickly. From Wikipedia, as he had in St. Louis, Pulitzer emphasized sensational stories. human interest, crime, disasters and scandal.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Under Pulitzer's leadership, circulation grew from 15,000 to 600,000, making the world the largest newspaper in the country. That's amazing. Huge. Making the world the largest newspaper in the country is a fun sentence. It's clear to me because I can see I've vitalized it. Mm-hmm. Is that a word?
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah. Yeah. I think you should know a little Italian. We're not pulled a surprise for that. I've put it into Italian. it. Pulitzer emphasized broad appeal through short, provocative headlines
Starting point is 00:16:36 and sentences. The world's self-described style was brief, breezy, and brigity. Ooh. I don't know. He's like, we need to be brief. We need to be breezy. We need to be...
Starting point is 00:16:48 I think of another word. Thirgity. Bridget. Bridgett. Bridgety. And everyone's like, well, I guess this guy's the master. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:56 God, he's good. One of his biggest rivals at the time was William Randolph Hurst. That dog. So, Hurst was an American businessman, newspaper publisher and politician, known for developing the nation's largest
Starting point is 00:17:10 newspaper chain and media company, Hearst Communications. He was born in San Francisco, the son of George Hurst, a millionaire mining engineer who later became a U.S. Senator, very powerful, very rich family. He enrolled in the Harvard College class, Harvard of 1885,
Starting point is 00:17:29 but was expelled for antics. Oh, wow. Including organizing massive parties in Harvard Square and sending chamber pots to his professors. That is cheeky. That's a bit of fun, I would say. I want to know. Like, is it a use as a full chamber pot?
Starting point is 00:17:45 That really changes it for me. Because it was just an empty chamber pot. Thank you for this lovely gift. Thank you. I needed a new chamber pot. Exactly, I need to shit. Oh, you've taken that off the gift register, having. Lovely, thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Appreciate that very much. It matches my upstairs chamber pot. So expelled from Harvard, Harvard, and looking for a job, in 1887, Hearst took over management of his father's newspaper, the San Francisco Examiner, which his father had acquired in 1880 as repayment for a gambling debt. People are just handing over newspapers. So funny. It does feel like rich people in America are like playing the whole country like a board game. Yes. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Sure. You can buy the railway, but I am going to throw in this newspaper, but for an extra 10 grand. I don't want the electric company. But if you want the railway line, then you're going to take the electric company. I've already got three railway lines. This could be good. I'll get the fourth one. Fine, I'll take your stupid electric company.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah, it feels like that, which I simply adore. In 1895, William Randolph Hurst purchased the rival New York Journal. which at one time had been owned by Pulitzer's brother, Albert. So now they've both got rival newspapers in New York. One's the world, one's the journal. That's right. I don't know why I specified American rich people. I think that's all.
Starting point is 00:19:13 It's probably Australian rich people also play our country like a board game. Yeah, but it's probably like boggle. It's off-brand. Yeah, yeah. It's not as good. There's not as much good stuff. Comes in a plastic bag. Doesn't come in a box.
Starting point is 00:19:35 It's missing a few pieces. They've made a lot of their own pieces out of cardboard. And they say you can't tell the difference, but you can. You can. It's embarrassing. So with this acquisition, Hurst entered into a head-to-head circulation war with Pulitzer. In fact, Hurst played a little dirty. He stole cartoonist Richard F.
Starting point is 00:19:58 out cult, along with all of Pulitzer's Sunday staff. Wow. He stole them. He stole them. Put him in a bag. He had some sat in a black band. He just dragged him down the street. Now, work in this office instead.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Okay. Okay. All right. But his reputation was actually quite good. What it probably seems like is that he was just offering better and they jumped ship. Yes. Stolen is funny. Like, it wasn't their choice.
Starting point is 00:20:24 He stole them by offering them more money and better working conditions. I told you, what a dog. He imported his best managers from the San Francisco Examiner and quickly established himself as the most attractive employer among New York newspapers. He was hot. He was seen as generous. He paid more.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And yeah, I think just the working conditions were probably a bit better. And also a chiseled jaw. And he was hot. Oh, my God. He was a hearty. From this really interesting resource I found, Wikipedia.org, it sort of has like a lot of the history of newspapers.
Starting point is 00:20:57 which you think it's quite dull, but when you find out some of them are won in gambling debts and stuff, it's quite interesting. That's fun. So Wikipedia.org says, The New York Journal and its chief rival, the New York World,
Starting point is 00:21:09 mastered a style of popular journalism that came to be derided as yellow journalism, which is, I looked up, you know, what the definition of that is. It says, American terms for journalism and associated newspaper that present little or no legitimate,
Starting point is 00:21:23 well-researched news, while instead using eye-catching headlines for increased sales. So they're not good newspapers. Do you know where they got the color yellow from? Was it like the paper was cheaper or something? No, it was, I think it's like, I think it was like a bit of a deep cut.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I think it's something to do with a particular cartoon that was in one of the papers. I can't remember. I did sort of look into it and I think that was it. A bit strange. Was it the Simpsons? It was the Simpsons. It's where the Simpsons started.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Not a lot of people know that. Pulitzer's World. had pushed the boundaries of mass appeal for newspapers through bold headlines, aggressive news, generous use of cartoons and illustrations, had a lot of pictures, populist politics and dramatic crime and human interest stories.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Hurst's journal used the same recipe for success, forcing Pulitzer to drop the price of the world from two cents to a penny. So instead of increasing their prices like you suggested, Dave, they've actually decreased them. Oh my God. Can I just say that Pulitzer's world sounds like the world's, worst theme park
Starting point is 00:22:28 yeah pull it's a world come on down see the printing press ride the printing press ride come up with your own catchy headline
Starting point is 00:22:38 even if it's not real we'll probably publish it pose for a picture so and when you say is a penny a cent yeah so yeah it's gone from two cents to slash the price
Starting point is 00:22:51 yeah just to be more competitive because they're really in a circulation war. And all that really does is cut the margin for the paper boys? Yeah. Because they're the ones setting the price. Yeah, that doesn't seem. Yeah, I guess you... They're wearing all of that. Are they still selling them to the paper boys at the same price? Yeah. Jesus. Yeah, that's pretty... That can't be the way to do it.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Soon the two papers were locked in a fierce, often spiteful competition for readers in which both papers spent large sums of money and saw huge gains in circulation. So yeah, they're like by dropping the price, obviously they're losing money, I suppose, but they're making it more accessible. Or if the other one's two cents and this one's one, and they're essentially telling the same stories, or I'll get the cheaper one. So yeah, so they're just trying to get their circulation numbers up. Seems to be like that's the main thing they care about. Also from Wikipedia.org. Within a few months of purchasing the journal, Hurst Hydeaway puts his three top editors,
Starting point is 00:23:57 Sunday editor Moral Goddard, who greatly expanded the scope. Moral. Moral. I heard that as a first name. It's M-O-R-I-L. Morrill? Moral.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I think it's moral. I could trust that guy. Moral Goddard, who's a Sunday editor, who greatly expanded the scope and appeal of the American Sunday newspaper. There was also Solomon Carvello. Oh my God, another good. great name, and a young Arthur Brisbane, who became managing editor of the Hearst newspaper Empire
Starting point is 00:24:28 and a well-known columnist. Contrary to popular assumption, they were not lured away by higher pay, rather each man had grown tired of the office environment that Pulitzer encouraged, toxic work environment, you know? But you encourage that. Yeah. It's not, and it's not always about, obviously, if you're leaving one job, it'd be great if the next one pays more, you know, but sometimes you sort of go, well, same pay, better work conditions. You move sideways, but there's benefits in other ways. Exactly. That's me investing in me.
Starting point is 00:25:00 They've got beanbags. They've got bean bags. They're actually really cool. At a ping pong table. Yeah. And I have margarita Wednesdays. Yeah. And that's really fun.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I get drunk at work. Yeah. You worked in an office with a slide before, isn't that right? I did work in an office with a slide and we did have drinks and snacks on Friday's afternoons. And I don't just mean like they'd put out a cheeseboard. Like there was a, there was a, there was a, built into the building and they would just bring out boxes and boxes of like chips, popcorn
Starting point is 00:25:28 pretzels, whatever. And you'd go and like take an entire packet of chips and beers and you could take them back to your desk. It was the best. And we had John Farnham play at the Christmas party. Yes. Now we're talking about. You know what?
Starting point is 00:25:40 I'm probably, yeah. I mean, it's hard. Part of me would be like, could I just get my cut of whatever you paid Farnsey? Yeah. It'd be nice. Could you just pay me a bit better? Yeah. They did pay well too.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Oh my God. where is this place? It was a good job. Yeah, were you working for 1-800 heaven? Yeah, I was working for 1-800 heaven. You call it. Hello, you've got heaven. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:26:02 What's it like in there? I didn't think I'd get through. Have you got those pretzels? I've heard so much. Is my granddad there? No, pretzels. Damn it! Put him on.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Put him on. And get me pretzels. Anyway, so the two of them were soon going to have a shared enemy to deal with, and it was going to come from a surprising source, a bunch of kids That's all Nothing brings two old rich men together Like some annoying kids
Starting point is 00:26:31 So from all that's interesting They wrote Everything started to shift When the Spanish-American War broke out In 1898 Then publishers started charging newsies The newsboys The Newsboys paper boys
Starting point is 00:26:45 Oh newsies 60 cents instead of 50 for their bundles Although they didn't know it at the time this would form the basis of the Newsboys strike of 1899 just a year later. So they just charged some 10 cents more. Newsies didn't mind, not at first. The public had a massive appetite for war stories. And the papers filled with grabby, exciting headlines sold like never before.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So they're like, yeah, it's fine. Buy this paper, or you'll die. Oh, my God. I'll take four. When the war ended, though, most publishers lowered their prices back to 50 cents. But Hurst and Pulitzer kept charging the Newsboys' six. 60 cent for 100 papers. The moguls were competing with each other using flashy front pages and extra
Starting point is 00:27:27 additions and they wanted to save money where they could. Small seven-year-old children trying to keep roofs over their head. They're like, well, that's what we can save money. What are you going to do? You're a kid. Yeah. What are you going to do? Band together.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I like to see it. That'd be really cute. That probably sounds really cute. I'd watch a musical about that. What was the war that just ended? There was some American war then. The American... The Spanish-American War.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Please don't ask me any follow-up question. I didn't know that had existed. Just a quick follow-up question. What did that war entail? Who were the combatants? Spain. Okay. America.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Right. And where to get the name from? You know, they just, they make them up. Yeah, right. The random name generator. War. Like, what's a ball? Vietnam War.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Where's that? They've just got names. World War II. God. Get some inspiration. It's all like, I think it's all based on like astrology or something. Yeah, they get names from that. Oh, Mercury Rising.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Yeah, they name comets and bites and shit. It's all the same thing. Right, right, right. History's all made up. Before long, the newsboys started to feel the difference. Their frustration came to a head on July 18 when newsboys in Long Island City found out that a journal delivery man had been selling them bundles with fewer than a hundred papers. Oh, wow. He's ripping them off.
Starting point is 00:28:51 So not only are they still being charged 60 cents, they're not even getting 100 papers to sell. So how do they make any money? He starts cutting up the bundles with older papers as well, just like lesser quality. Yeah, clever. That's smart. And also if the kids, essentially like,
Starting point is 00:29:08 the kids bought the papers, they had to sell all of those papers. If you didn't sell all your papers, you're just losing money. So they're having to work late. They're having to work really hard. And now they're finding out they're not even getting 100 papers that they're paying for.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Yeah, they start going, Well, I'm getting through these real quick and then realize they're only getting bundles of three. Yeah. Like, wow. Hang on. Something doesn't happen here. I'm getting really good at this.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So they've discovered that he's not giving them the full 100. So a group of furious newsboys tipped over his wagon and stole his papers. Energized and encouraged the newsboys decided to tackle a much bigger injustice, the price of their bundles. So on July 19, it's the next day. The newsboys gathered in Manhattan City Hall Park to form a union. They demanded that Hearst and Pulitzer reduced the price of newspaper bundles back to 50 cents. And the newsboys declared that they would not buy the world or the journal until the moguls complied.
Starting point is 00:30:09 The newsboy strike of 1890 had begun. It was like so quick. It was like one day a bunch of kids in Long Island just like snapped and had enough. And then the next day they formed a union. They're on strike. They were efficient. This is before they could just text each other and be like, hey, sup, we're on strike. F-Y-I.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Hey, I just tipped a man over. So how do they... I've tipped a man over. You know what that means. You know what that means. Come on, see you're on strike. Obviously, see you tomorrow. Midday at the park.
Starting point is 00:30:37 You got it. Tipped a man over. And his wagon. They tipped his wagon over. They didn't tip him over. How do you tip a man over? I think it was pretty clear that they also tipped him over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So you tip the wagon. over first but he doesn't see that and then they go hey what's that over there and then whilst he's walking backwards he tips over there's a there's an implication there that he also got so a man tipping over is him falling on something yeah he's been tipped yeah so he's been tipped yeah and let's say congratulations you've been tipped right it's a new show I've been working on what if he was in oh okay tipping point that's better the catchphrase is you've been tipped you've been tipped yeah um what's and then you put a dollar note on yeah what if he was in the wagon when they tipped it.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Has he still been tipped? Yeah, you've been double-tipped. Oh, that's double-tipped. Yeah, you get double-points for double-tipping. Yeah. Okay. Tipping. Concurrent?
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yeah. Okay, this is interesting. Which is double points. What's the show called again? Tipping point. Tipping point. But the catchphrases you've been tipped. You've been tipped.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Is it a dollar. Oh, okay. That's another type of tip. Yeah, yeah. That's when you've been double-tipped. You get a triple tip. You get a third tip. Wow, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Which gets you another dollar. Could there be a segment on the show called just the tip? Just the tip, yeah. That's good. That's the sealed section of the show. But does it count? Just the tip?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah. Does that count? It does, yes. You get another dollar for it. Some people say if it's just the tip, it doesn't count, but it absolutely count. Okay. On tipping point, it does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:04 A show that is it about tipping in so many ways. Maybe too many. At the end of the show, do you take the wagon and throw it in the tip? Yeah, that's right. If it passes the tipping point. That's the tipping point. Then you get another dose. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Okay, okay. I think I'm starting to understand. If there's enough weight in the dollars that land on you, you pass the tipping point and it all goes to the tip. And at any point, are you asked to give advice? Yes. Yeah, there's an advice section in there. Each team has one advisor. Who can give them tips?
Starting point is 00:32:39 Which get you a dollar. And then also at some point is one of the challenges to put on like a weird silicone cap that you pull parts your hair through to bleach. Yes. There is also one hairdresser working out from their backyard. And what's she doing? Or is that just where I got my tips? And her name was Bernie.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Is that just me or is that? No, no. That's on the show. It was very painful. Yes. And you get a doll. We've got a whole staff of tippers. We call them the tip staff.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Wow. But, you know. Tip stars. That would be good. Yeah. They could be famous for that. Yeah. Anyway, should I keep going?
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yeah, we've sold it to 80 countries so far. That's a really fun show. I like it a lot. To celebrate your tip of bottle of champagne down your throat. It's part of the fun. And then... You get another. I want to clarify as well for listeners that Matt is...
Starting point is 00:33:35 He's doing the full arm gesture of putting a dollar down every time. He's done a bit of... That's for you. We go all in here. Yeah. Yeah, we don't fuck about it here. We're not half-assing it here. We're not.
Starting point is 00:33:45 When we're talking about our show tipping point. So look, it may have started with the Long Island Newsboys tipping over a wagon, but it spread really quickly and the newsboys of Manhattan and Brooklyn joined in on the strike the very next day. So it's spread like wildfire. At first, the newspaper mogul shrugged off the newsboys demands. There was a guy called Don Seats, and he was the managing editor of the New York world, and he sent a very blasé memo to Pulitzer about the strike on July 21. So it's been going for a few days.
Starting point is 00:34:16 sends a memo and it just said, had some trouble today through the strike on the part of the news boys, but he assured his boss that the strike would be sporadic and that the situation was well in hand. He was like, don't even worry about it, babe. Bad, they're just boys, bad. They're not worried about the little boys. They're aging out of the job anyway. There's a, new paper boys being born every day. Yeah, that's a paper boy. That's a paper boy. That's a paper boy. Has that being born or dying? Ha, both. Oh, God. One in one out. It's a good policy. That's one aging out.
Starting point is 00:34:48 That's one being born. We got one. From all that's interesting, the newsboys, however, had no intention of backing down. On July 22nd, 100 newsies descended on newspaper row where the papers were distributed
Starting point is 00:35:02 and threatened the New York world and the New York Journal with clubs. Okay, they've really stepped it up. They've got weapons now. Oh, okay. Not like, you join a club. They're not wearing different coloured t-shirts and like calling themselves.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I think they've got weapons. We're the Beagle Boys. Yeah. The Beagle Boys. The Beagle Boys. The Beagle Boys. We're the bugle boys from Company B. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Lots of good options. I couldn't think of a single other joke. For clubs. Yeah. I mean, they could have invited them to a disco. Yeah. A night out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:37 But no, they've got bats. A few screwdrivers. Nope, they've got bats. Okay. Is that a cocktail? Is that a cocktail? I'll have a bat, thanks. I'll have a bat.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I'll have a bat. I'll have a club. Okay. At first the police were able to disperse the young strikers, but the Newsboy strike of 1899 continued and the newsies convened in even greater numbers around Columbus Circle. 500 of them shouted through fruit
Starting point is 00:36:01 and stole newspapers out of wagons. Oh, they're tipping. They're back tipping. When you said shouted through fruit, I thought they were like, they were holding up like a mango out of the mouth going, How hollering it out like the worst food is like that. Why are they doing it through the fruit?
Starting point is 00:36:22 Can we have examples of what other fruits would sound like? Well, that was a mango. What kind of fruit do you think? Banana. It's more like. Yeah, yeah. Because you're able to get your lips around it a bit. What about a blueberry?
Starting point is 00:36:34 A blueberry. I reckon you could just shout with a blueberry in your mouth. You're not shouting through it though. Yeah, that's true. That is true. No, they shouted, comma. They threw fruit and they stole shit. That day, seats, the managing editor, sent a second memo.
Starting point is 00:36:54 This one had a note of alarm. Said, the newsboy strike has grown into a menacing affair. It is proving a serious problem. Sorry, sir, I know I said, it was fine, but I'm now covered in mango. He goes on to say, practically all the boys in New York and adjacent towns have quit selling. This is only a few days later. But at first he was like, nah, don't worry about it. Now he was like, I'm a little worried about it.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Yeah. We're not selling any papers. That was on the, that was on like the 22nd. On the 24th of July, he was in full paddock. The advertisers have abandoned the paper and the sales have been cut down fully two to five, he told Pulitzer. It's really a very extraordinary demonstration. Hats off to the kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:38 They're honestly fucking ruining us. I think we should do a story on these kids. Yeah. And people did. Funnily enough, not those two papers. But others did. The Pulitzer's paper just says, everything is fine. Keep buying paper.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Extra, extra. Nothing to see here. Literally, no one is saying this because the boys are on strike. Oh, who am I? Oh, my God. Who am I? Who am I saying this? You're a newsman.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I'm a newsman. I'm a newsman. They're paying him three cents. They tried. The young boys continue to rally and protest and refuse to. buy or sell the papers. They marched across the Brooklyn Bridge. They protested in the streets of downtown Manhattan.
Starting point is 00:38:21 They tore up newspapers and threw water on newsstand owners who didn't support the strike from Wiki. Any man or boy found to be selling the two boycotted papers would be mobbed by a group of strikers beaten and his papers destroyed. The newspaper owners paid grown men to sell their newspapers, offering them police protection, but the strikers often found ways to distract the officer so they could get at the scabs is what they called. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:50 When did the term scabs come about? Was it around this time or it's already around? Yeah, it might have already been around. I was thinking maybe it was because they ended up getting bashed like this. They'd still work and they're like cuts as scatming up. You get tipped over and you get your scap knees. But imagine like being these newspaper owners, you're now paying adults to sell the newspaper and offering police protection from children.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Yeah. It's kind of funny. So much more money they'd be spending than just paying them extra. Exactly right. Or charging them less is all they're asking to do. Yeah. But instead they're making, I'm guessing they're paying the cops. And they're also, I'm assuming having to pay the adults more than the children.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah, I would assume so. Probably multiple cents. Yeah. So it's a bad system. No. And there wasn't a big margin as it was. No. The Wikipedia article says
Starting point is 00:39:45 Women and Girls fared a little better Because as union leader, Kid Blink put it Oh my God, this has got to be the highest quality Like consistently You haven't missed yet There's some really good names
Starting point is 00:39:58 Kid Blink. Kid Blink And he's a union leader One of the union leaders I'll talk more about kid blink in a sec But he said a fella can't soak a lady Which I've Yeah
Starting point is 00:40:10 What's he say? A fella can't soak a lady. That's a no bath rule. Yeah. We'll pay the man. We'll bay the boy. You know, but you can't soak a lady.
Starting point is 00:40:21 The lingo was different back then. So the struck newspapers didn't publish a word about the strike, as we were just saying. They did not, they weren't, their news didn't include this at all. But other newspapers ran articles and illustrations detailing with skirmishes, the mass meetings, the negotiations. And they always quoted the news. newsboys in their signature slang. So, like, it was quite, like, it was written out sort of phonetically.
Starting point is 00:40:47 So it's like, wheezeans has got to stand by one another these times. A striker named to Billy told the Jersey City Evening Journal. Because if we don't, Shores, hell will get hit in the neck from Dem Capitalists. Okay. Beautiful. Beautiful. You know, you can't bathe the woman. You can't soak a lady.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Not so go lady. Lydie? Do they catch on to this and just start hiring only women? I don't know. I think they still like... Well, obviously, we still prefer to give the work to men. We still distract the cops and steal all the papers and, yeah, no, it still didn't go well. Although portrayed by the press in comic fashion, strike violence was no joke. Some scabs wielded table legs and carried revolvers with them to protect themselves against children. legs.
Starting point is 00:41:38 One forced a loaded gun down kid blinks throat. Oh. Seems unnecessary. Really unnecessary. This strikers... Like, how short is the range on this gun? I'm worried I'll miss. Keep swallowing.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Keep swallowing. Oh, no. And now we wait. It's a crooked sight. I don't know. But the striking news boys played rough too. They armed themselves with horseshoes, baseball bats, barrel staves and wheel spokes.
Starting point is 00:42:06 So they were like, it was mine. So, okay. With a horseshoe, you're like trying to like wrap it around their neck? Yeah, yeah. Game of a wheelchair, what's going on? It'd be pretty, like, if he got hit over the head with one and it hurt. Yeah. Or thrown at you.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Or if you put her on your foot, he kicked them. Oh my God, yeah. Kick in the face. Kicked in the head by Shetland Pony. That actually, that sketch hasn't used paper boy. Does it? Yeah. Extra, extra read all about it.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Man kicked in the face by a Shetland Pony. Oh, yeah. If you haven't seen it, you've got to go on YouTube and type in, kicked in the head. Don't. Maybe don't. By a Shetland pony. Jess is there? Yep. In a nurse's outfit.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I'm there as a doctor. So it was, you know, it was error appropriate. Yeah. Women were nurses. That's right. And men were doctors. Jack Drus was a paper boy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:58 It all makes sense to me. So I mentioned kid blink. Oh, yeah. Great name. I've got a couple of other characters here. that, you know, they come up in the story, but I mostly just wanted to say their names. So Kid Blink, part of what appealed to me in this story
Starting point is 00:43:14 was some of the characters and the names. So he was kind of, for a lot of it, he was sort of the face of the strike. His name was Louis Kid Blink Belletti. He was a charismatic leader. He was 18 at the time of the strike, and he had red hair and an eye patch over his left eye. So his other nicknames included red blink,
Starting point is 00:43:34 Blind Diamond and Oh my God Mugsy McGee Oh my God This guy could be the coolest man of all time Red hair and an eye patch Mugsy McGee Muggy
Starting point is 00:43:46 Geez he's got the big three Red hair everyone agrees Yeah The coolest of the hair colours Damn right An eye patch Yep There's no better way to cover one of your eyes
Starting point is 00:43:55 None with a patch No bit of a patch either And can you tell me a better name Than Mugsy McGee I can't Who's the diamond? Blind Diamond Blind Diamond
Starting point is 00:44:04 That is a close second. That is a close second. That is good. Because I mean, what's his name? Kid Blink. Yeah. It started so well that I can't believe you continue to top it as you went along. Mugsy McGee. You reached a tipping point with Mugsy McGee.
Starting point is 00:44:18 He's a dollar. So there was also the president of the Newsboy Union at the time was 21-year-old David Simmons who'd been selling papers since he was eight years old. He was also a well-known amateur prize fighter at the local athletes. athletics club. We also had Henry Major Butts Butler. Oh, that's too good. Major butts.
Starting point is 00:44:44 That's good stuff. He's got the best size number plate for sure. Oh, yeah. He was the leader of the Upper Manhattan Union. He was arrested on July 31st, 1899, on the charge of blackmail after telling executives at the New York world that he would not break the strike for less than $600. So he was essentially like trying to bribe them. $600 back then is roughly the equivalent of about $20,000 today.
Starting point is 00:45:13 So he's sort of like, yeah, no, I mean, I'll break the strike for $20,000. These kids are making a penny for each paper. So that's a lot of money. Yeah, he's willing to be a scab at the right price. That's right. For the price of, what, 2 million papers? Yeah, yeah. Hey, you pay me that and then I'll definitely go back to work.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I certainly won't be on to the Bahamas. No, definitely not. I don't know that existed. One of the biggest sort of milestones or like, yeah, most notable events in this whole strike is Irving Hall. It was less than a week after the strike had begun. There was a citywide rally which was held at Irving Hall in Union Square in Manhattan. An estimated 5,000 newsboys attended the rally. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:03 This is in less than a week. There's 5,000 of them. striking and protesting. It's crazy. The rally was sponsored by State Senator Timothy D. Sullivan and was supported by the public with many local businessmen and politicians addressing the crowd as well.
Starting point is 00:46:17 So it seems like the public really got on board and we're on the side of the newsboys. You think of 5,000, like, and they're each selling 100 papers a day. Yeah. Or more, more maybe. Maybe some of them doing multiple bundles. Dave, that's probably pretty easy math.
Starting point is 00:46:32 How many papers is that? 500 billion. See, that's costing them quite a lot. Yeah, we're missing on half a million papers a day. Yeah, it's wild. When the adults had finished speaking, the union president, David Simmons, read a list of resolutions saying that the strike
Starting point is 00:46:50 was to stand until the papers reduced their prices and also calling on the newsboys to adopt non-violent methods of resistance. They're like, okay, guys, maybe put the horseshoes down. A couple of weeks in. Yeah, yeah. Without a thought. Okay, all right. The hospitals are over.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Maybe they're not taking us seriously because we're beating the shit out of everybody. The strike leader kid blink gave an impassioned speech saying, I'm trying to figure how 10 cents on top on 100 papers can mean more to a millionaire than it does to newsboys. And I can't see it. So maybe you can understand anything you said with the gun down his throat. And a piece of fruit in front of the gown. It says this is the time when we've got to stick together like glue. We know what we want and we'll get it even if we are blind. I don't fully get that, but it's...
Starting point is 00:47:39 He's thinking about getting a second eye patch. What do you guys think I could pull it off? I'm thinking it putting Diomonti's on the other one, though. The double patch? I think double Diomonti too much, but one Diomonte. Single Diamond. The blind diamond. At the conclusion of the night, he was presented with a floral horseshoe for best speech of the evening.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Yeah. They did awards. That's so good it was a horseshoe too. Yeah. Because he killed a few people with those that week. It was a bloodstained floral horseshoe. The other sort of notable one of the night was Ed Racetrack Higgins, who also gave a speech representing the Brooklyn Union and several papers mentioned his use of humor in his speech. That's how you get your message across with a humor and fun.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Classic racetrack. He got his nickname because his torso was strangely in the shape of a racetrack. Wow. Yeah. Odd-looking fella. Brooklyn Life referred to him as a born leader of boys. And he may yet be of men. His speech at the rally went off so well that the New York Times said that if the newsboys present could have had a vote last night,
Starting point is 00:48:45 Racetrack Higgins could have had any office in their gift. So it looks like he's good. President of the boys. President of the boys. He could be the head boy. Oh, head boy. The dream. Over the following days, the newsboys also distributed flyers and hung signs around the city,
Starting point is 00:49:01 encouraging people to help them in their cause by not buying the world and the journal. The public was on their side and chose not to buy the papers, even if they were for sale. Like, even if somehow papers got through and were at a newsagent or whatever, they wouldn't buy them. So sales plummeted quickly. World circulation dropped from 360,000 to 125,000. So it's dropped pretty fast. The people seem to be against us, sites told Pulitzer on July 24. This is only like, the last memo was the 23rd.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Seitz is just losing his mind. Paulus is not replying, but he's just going, oh, go on. You're captive he's wearing, like, he's just in boxer shorts. He's not, I've lost my clothes. Yeah, he's been sleeping at the office. I don't know what's happening. I'm front. He goes on to say, they're encouraging the boys and tipping them,
Starting point is 00:49:53 and they are refraining from buying the papers for fear of having them snatched from their hands. They're tipping the boys. They're tipping the boys. Wait, which guy? And here's a dollar. That kind of tippering. So they're supporting the newsboys in their strike and financially. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I imagine the rival newspapers would be loving this, obviously, because they're two of their biggest competitors are out of the game. It would be so fun. And I'm sure that they're using that very responsibly. Oh, yes. Imagine they're all, and they all continue to pay their paper boys really well. I'm sure they're treating their nice boys very well. And they're acting on behalf of the boys.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Yes. But I'm not thinking of their own interest. It's all about the boys. It's about the boys. Get around the boys. I just want to look after the boys. and some girls, but mostly boys. Support the boys, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:39 That's right, yes. Greg champion won the thing. They're trying to give full credit to those boys. It's very nice. Anyway, full credit of the boys. That's one of, that's like, Jess, you do a great post-match. Yeah, we do the boy right there.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Look, full credit to the boys. They went out there to go over 110%. It's always 110%. Now, sorry there, young fellow. You've just had a great day handing out selling papers today. How have you seen it today? Yeah, it was a good match.
Starting point is 00:51:09 We went out there. It's the third quarter. We came back. In the locker room we said, now all we want to do is we want to go out. We want to fully push for the front. How we did that? The boys went out there.
Starting point is 00:51:19 They go 110%. And yeah, I'm really proud of what the boys pulled out there today. For respect to the opposition. Obviously, they brought a great game today. They had a plan. But we worked hard and we just got it done in the end. And yeah, we're just taking a one week at a time. and you don't sound puffed enough that's my only um tip i've been on the bench
Starting point is 00:51:37 in my act out i'm not good enough to be on the field just in my act out i'm the captain who didn't actually hear the question just started talking sometimes i'm like you didn't hear the question yeah no no yeah no how's your mum going oh full credit to the boys yeah 110 percent okay um there was a bit of a scandal though a day or two after the the rally at irving hall rumors spread among the newsboys that strike leaders, Kid Blink and David Simmons
Starting point is 00:52:09 had betrayed the strike and agreed to sell the boycott of newspapers in exchange for a bribe from the newspaper executives. Oh my God, not keep blink. Well, both boys denied the charge. They're like, what are you talking about? Of course I didn't take a bribe. It doesn't seem like that would make any sense
Starting point is 00:52:25 because you're only, unless they're going to use that influence to stop the strike, there's no point paying off individual boys. Just fix the conditions they're asking for. It doesn't sound like was that unreasonable what they're asking for. Can you just charge us what everyone else does? Because we're finding it hard to make a living wage like this.
Starting point is 00:52:46 No, let's drag this on for a few weeks. Yeah, so, but both KidBlink and David Simmons denied it. But some sources note that KidBlink wore clothes a bit nicer than usual, indicating the possibility that he may have accepted a bribe. This is when his eye patch got the domonties on it. It's like, you're a bit flashy there, Kid blink. You've gone a bit farther. None of us are making any money at the moment.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Oh, no, no, they're only Diamantys. And someone's getting out the little eye thing going, that's 29 carrots. Yeah. Is that a good amount of carrots? That's a lot of carrots. Yeah, but is a lot good? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Is it? Yeah, you want more. You got to remember the three Cs. Yeah. Carrots, carrots. Give them to me. I want them. I love carrots.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I am a rabbit. What's up, doc? In response to these suspicions, Kid Blink and David Simmons resigned from their leadership positions. And after the rumours about Kid Blink and David Simmons, a desertion of the strike, combined with their failure to obtain a parade permit, they'd been like planning to do this big parade and nobody got a permit.
Starting point is 00:53:55 And then all the newsboys were like, oh, we've got no faith in you now. No, we've got no permit. Hey, Jess, so you're, so you're, It's a press conference. So what's brought out, you're resigning? What's brought about this decision? Oh, yeah, no, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:12 No, full credit to the boys. They went out there, they got 110%. Some of them have thought I'm dressing a bit nicer than normal. As it turns out, I've just started dating a lady who works in a laundry as she is cleaning my clothes. These are the same pants. I've always worn. They're actually a light brown, but they've been washed.
Starting point is 00:54:31 So people think they're new pants And same old pairs But full credits on the boys They've gone out there They've followed their hearts And they've given 100% And it's time for me to move aside They've gone in a different direction
Starting point is 00:54:42 I like when they In those ones as well They're like you know I'm just Sorry about You know What it's done in my family Who I'm thinking about
Starting point is 00:54:53 Most sorry to my family My wife Sharon Who stood by me Sharon always stands by But yeah Essentially the news Boys' faith in a centralized leadership was diminished. Like this, maybe we don't need one strike leader, one face of it.
Starting point is 00:55:08 They're starting to sound like, call me, bastards. But the strike... You know me, hardcore capitalist till I die. The strike overall had... There's a dollar. Oh, thank you. The strike overall had been incredibly effective. Within a mere two weeks, the Newsboys strike of 1899 had done so much damage to Hearst and
Starting point is 00:55:27 Pulitzer's paper profits that the moguls agreed to talk. On July 27 With the boys With the boys On July 27 The World and Journal Offered to sell papers to the boys At 55 cents per hundred
Starting point is 00:55:41 Nah Not enough mate We'll meet you halfway They're saying But the union rejected the compromise They're like no fuck you No fuck you Yeah if you said this
Starting point is 00:55:49 Three weeks ago Before I got all my beautiful Clean horseshoes All bloodied Then maybe Maybe But now I've got to buy new horseshoes Yeah
Starting point is 00:55:56 We'll figure out how to clean them Yeah And Sharon's left me Sharon's Lafey, she was not standing by me. So that was July 27. August 1st, the world and the journal offered the newsboys a different compromise. The price of 100 newspapers would remain at 60 cents. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:56:12 But they would buy back any unsold papers. Okay. So this meant that the boys who had had trouble selling all their papers wouldn't be forced to sell late into the night to avoid taking a loss for the day. So they could sort of go, well, look, I'm not. the papers, I'm not selling any more for the day. I'm going to call it here and then the newspaper would buy them back. A bit of work life balance.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Yeah, exactly. So the newsboys accepted this compromise, ending the strike and they disbanded the union on August 2nd, 1899. They did it. A bunch of kids fought against two millionaires, such wealthy men fighting over a few cents to take them out of the hands of children. Cool. That's a beautiful story.
Starting point is 00:57:02 It sounds like the right people won. Yeah. The 1899 strike was credited with inspiring latest strikes in Montana and Kentucky. And within the next couple of decades, there were introductions of child welfare laws that led to improvements in the newsboys quality of life. So it kind of, it had ripple effects as well, which is nice. That's good. The events of the 80 of the 99 strike inspired the 1992 Disney film Newsies. including a character named Kid Blink
Starting point is 00:57:31 who wears an eye patch but in this version of the story the leader of the strike was named Jack Kelly it is a musical sorry Dave and Jack Kelly is played by Christian Bale No way A young Christian Bail
Starting point is 00:57:46 He must be so young yeah Bill Pullman is also in it and Robert Duval plays Pulitzer Wow It's quite a cast That's quite a cast Oh wow I've just seen a The first screenshot I've seen on IMDB
Starting point is 00:57:57 It's a bunch of kids singing and I will not be watching. I mean, it is a musical and you've just heard the story it's about. Why are you surprised it's kids singing? But they're dressed exactly like you'd imagine. And that's why it's a no from me. They're also dressed a little bit like Dave Warnocky. I can see you're wearing a...
Starting point is 00:58:17 It's your sort of palette. I want you to know that I think as soon as you said newsboy, I'm like, I would have been a great newsboy. You would have been a great newsboy. You still would be. I think I've missed my prime, but I think I could be out there being like, come Come on down by the Harold son. Yeah. We've got a great story about...
Starting point is 00:58:33 Maybe you should try selling records at the footy or something. Records. Records. Two dollars. That'll age this. They're probably like $25. Yeah. Records two dollars.
Starting point is 00:58:44 They sell the record every week? Yeah. Every game. Every game. Wow. Who's writing the records? I think AFL media or something. Something pretty excitingly named like that.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Yeah, I think it's the one record, but each week we'll have it. own individual. I haven't bought one for a long time. I used to buy them every round. I got a box of them somewhere. Yeah, wow. Going back to 89. Jesus Christ, you are old. Yeah. As old as the wind. I'm trying to tell you. I was buying a record before you were even born. Wow. That's quite a record in itself. That is. Records. What is it? Is that like a normal term? I don't know. I don't know what else you'd call them. It's like programs, I guess so. Programs for the footy programs. It would be like a theater program, but it's for a footy game. Yeah. I hope you're playing the role of Full Ford tonight
Starting point is 00:59:30 The first time I heard of this musical newsies I think was when an episode a year or so ago I was trying to figure out where I This joke from I remember from childhood came from Where the guy goes, it's Weez-the-Hell And a few people said Is that this movie? It's not, but I think it's a joke
Starting point is 00:59:49 That's been in a bunch of things somehow Right Well I think where I was thinking of was Tailspin, a Disney cartoon But apparently there's something like that in this, I think. Newsies. Well, a couple of people that suggested this topic say like Newsies is their favorite musical. Because it was a Disney film, but then a musical adaptation of the film, also called Newsies, debuted in 2011 on Broadway.
Starting point is 01:00:14 It played it on Broadway from 2012 to 2014 and then toured for a couple of years as well. And in November of 2022, a production of Newsies opened off West End in London for a limited. it would run as well. So it's a pretty big musical too. Right. I've never heard of it. Yeah, newsies. We've really got to get back to the West End and perform. Where we belong. Can we do a musical version of the podcast? I did pitch to Dave and Jess before we started recording that we do a live show with the MSO,
Starting point is 01:00:47 the MOU of the symphony orchestra at some point. I think that they seem to branch out more and more every year. Yeah. I think it's time they finally scored a live podcast. I think that would be fantastic. High art meeting, high art. That's right. Double high art.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I don't see how you can go wrong. I think that, yeah. Does that, I think that makes it triple high art. I think they'd essentially be like parts of the orchestra that would play for each of us. I think mine would be like, I don't know, something kind of nice and like strings or something. And yours would just be like, bop, bomb, bomb, blah, blah. I was thinking that?
Starting point is 01:01:18 I was thinking it would be like a jump. It'd be a jump. Every time you eat. disrupt and start doing something dumb and just goes, oh, oh, uh, uh, sorry, something high art. Yes, like a joke blowing into a joke with them act. I don't know, Dave can be a drum or something. Or bass, you love bass.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Oh, but, yeah, yours is quite sexy. Anyway, I like how, um, Dave, sorry, we come back to this sporadically. This is going to be a tough one. Dave says his talent is turning things in a porn parodies. How do you turn newsies in all porn parody? Obviously, first... Boobies. First, what you do is...
Starting point is 01:02:06 Boobies is good. You make sure all the boys are men. I think that's probably the first thing you do. Yeah, because it would probably be something like newbies or something. It's like young men, 18 plus in the office or something, something like that. But boobies is much better. Boobies. Boobies.
Starting point is 01:02:23 is very good. Extra, extra, double D. Rob about it. Dave's better at it. Double D about it. I mean, I came up with boobies.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Okay. So maybe I'm better at it. Okay. Screwsies? Screwsies. Screwsies is better. Scroozy's. It's a tighter rhyme, I guess.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Yeah, yeah. Boobies is a bit, it's a longer bow. Yeah. Screwsies. It's good. And what would the, instead of extra,
Starting point is 01:02:52 extra, read all about it it would be... Sextra, sexra. Oh my God. I'm so bad at this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:58 That one felt obvious. Sextra, sexra. Sextra, sex, extra. Creme all about it. Cream all about it. Cream all about tin. Oh, okay. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 01:03:11 You two work very well as a team. Is the West End listening to this podcast? This could be big. This high art. Is there an adult West End? It's a South End. Yeah. The rear end.
Starting point is 01:03:25 That's silly. That's good stuff. I've got one little paragraph left, because I like how all that's interesting sums it all up. Says the Disney film proved so popular that it was later adapted for Broadway, but the Disney version of the Newsboy Strike of 1899 does leave out some key details. Namely, young newsies continued to struggle in poverty, even after winning concessions from Hearst and Pulitzer.
Starting point is 01:03:49 It took another 20 years for the United States to enact child labor laws. Until then, Newsboys continued on Adidas. much as I always had. But for one brief, glorious moment, the newsboys of New York City grabbed the world's attention. They went head to head with some of the richest and most powerful men. And against all odds, this rag-tag crowd roared to victory. You know, I love anything that says rag-tag. Well done.
Starting point is 01:04:14 So that's a great way of summing it up from all that's interesting. But yeah, it's like a, you know, it felt like a kind of cute, short story. I liked that it was a bunch of kids striking against some. wealthy men who could absolutely spare the cash. And they won. And they, yeah, it's a shame because obviously they can't, it's hard to, when you're struggling for money in the first place, striking is a hard thing. It's a big sacrifice to me.
Starting point is 01:04:41 So, yeah, because you're like, oh, I wish they just stuck out it, got the price reduction and the deal that they could sell them back. Yeah, they kept it all. But, you know, they also have to live. Yeah. And that's why I think it's a good system that we've got. And there were no longer newsboys. They were newsmen.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Cream all about it. Sextra, sex, texture, cream all about tea. Cream all about it. Oh, really did. When I brought it up, I thought, there's not a lot of room here. But boy, was I wrong. Scroozies. Scroozy's coming next summer.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Oh, God. And you know how coming spell. Yeah. And you know how coming spell. Oh, fantastic. Now it's time for everyone's favorite section of the show. show where we get to thank some of our fantastic Patreon supporters. If you want to get involved in this, you just have to go to patreon.com slash do-go-on pod. There's a bunch of different levels you can sign up
Starting point is 01:05:40 to, Dave. What are some examples? Oh, there's all sorts of different levels. You can vote for topics. You can join the Facebook group at any level. It's a lovely corner of the internet. That's right. People are very nice. Organize their own swaps going on in there. There's been T-shirt swaps and magnet swaps around the world, which is so so cool. People being meeting up at gigs, connecting. It's really, really nice. Also, bonus episodes. We have put out over 190 and counting. And as soon as you subscribe at the bonus
Starting point is 01:06:06 level or above, you get access to the back catalogue. And we're putting out three more a month. Soon to be four more a month. If we hit a target soon, you might be noticing that Jess has popped down a bit. She did a lot of chatting during this episode. She told that report. She did most of talking.
Starting point is 01:06:22 So she's just quietly sitting in the corner of the room now. That's right. She's holding a microphone, but I don't know if she'll speak. She is actually she's holding up a piece of paper now saying Bopi's on strike. Not Bopi. Not Bopi.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Oh, not Bopi. Not Bopi. No, Bopi, please. We need our Bopi. No, she's standing firm. Okay. No, she's at the run off to go to a gig in a country town. I'm trying to give a live performance in Bendigo.
Starting point is 01:06:56 She's giving one to the good people of Bendigo. They're welcome. They are welcome. They are welcome. So, yeah, you can sign up on all these sorts of levels. I can't wait to start doing that fourth bonus episode a month, which is going to be a D&D campaign. That's right. Dungeons and Dragons. Do go D&D. There's a name in there somewhere. We haven't quite worked it out.
Starting point is 01:07:17 The two biggest D's out there, Dungeons and Dragons. That's a double D. And the first thing we like to do in this section of the show, it takes about half an hour, maybe 40 minutes. and we thank a bunch of different people who have been supporting us on there. And we have some fun along the way. We try to have a bit of fun. So we learn about them and each other.
Starting point is 01:07:36 This bit of the show, it's for the supporters, but more than that, it's for us. That's right. Feels my heart. The first thing we like to do is the fact quote or question section, which has a little jingle go,
Starting point is 01:07:47 something like this. Fact quote or question. Ding. Imagine how good that would be with the MSO under it. Oh, that'd be so good with the MSO right under that ding. Wow, the timpony. do a big ding? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Maybe like a percussionist over there with a little bell. Yeah, yeah. Or maybe on the, you know, on the clock and spiel. Oh, yeah. You'd have to work out the perfect note. Ding! Yeah. And they'd hit it every time.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Anyway, he always remembers the thing. I always remember the ding. And this section, if you sign up on the Sydney-Shaunberg level or above, you get to give us a factor, quite a question, or a brag or a suggestion, or really, whatever you like. I'll read four of them out each week, and I don't read them out until I read them out. And you also get to give yourself a title. The first one this week comes from Mark Wen,
Starting point is 01:08:28 okay, perpetually confused. And Mark, when? Mark when? People like, Mark when? Mark when. It's confusing for everyone. Men, please. Men, men.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Let's balance. It's men who get confused. Yeah. Men, please. And Mark Wen, perpetually confused, is the title, is offering us a brag writing. My home in northern Canada likes to boast that the song Summer of 69 is partially inspired by our town, because Brian Adams co-writer Jim Valence lived there in 1969. Nice.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Nice. Do you guys have any hometown facts that you're weirdly proud of? Ooh. What do you see as your hometown? I would see the suburb I probably grew up in, which is Eltham. And I went to Eltham East Primary School. And there was a cricketer that had gone there about 10 years or 15 years before, maybe 20 years before.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Elthamist Primary School. I can't remember who it was. was it Tony Tony Dottomade He was a character Wasn't he? Tony Dottomain I
Starting point is 01:09:44 While you're thinking I'll say Mine was probably If it was Kynton Is where Heath McAvah The man behind Randy
Starting point is 01:09:57 It's far as I guess Randy The puppet Is from my hometown I think you could say Oh yeah, great. And from Marabin, that is obviously the home of the Saints. So that's, I don't know if I brought that up before,
Starting point is 01:10:12 but yeah, St. Kilda Football Club is based in Marabin. Yeah, so was it Tony, Dotomade? I've got a feeling it was Adam Dale. Adam Dale. Do you know who played a couple of tests, 31 Day internationals? He was born in Ivanhoe, Victoria. So I was checking out, born in 68. So, you know, a couple of decades older than I was, did he play for?
Starting point is 01:10:35 Did he go to Elthamese Primary School? I feel like there was someone of a similar era and someone like that who, you know, was there a bit. Love that. That's a great claim to fame. Sorry, this is not as exciting as you were probably thinking. Yeah, it's not quite co-writer of Summer of 69, is it, Dave? No. Not quite.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Close. It's a great question though I love... Okay, one time I was at the Coles in Eltham And one of the great actors, comedians, media personalities, Miriam Margulies
Starting point is 01:11:16 was there because she for a while lived in Eltham. Wow, did she? Has she ever spilt the tea on you? I often see that in my news feed there's an article about Miriam Margulies spills the tea on working with someone or other. The best thing is she just doesn't give a shit, which I love. They're the people who love spilling tea the most.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Or don't even love it, they just do it. What about this, Dave? When I used to work at Safeway Marabin, Woolworths, that's a supermarket, regular customers who used to shop as a band, She Had. She had. Wow. Yeah. For a while, also known as.
Starting point is 01:11:59 They were known as Pacifier. Pacifier. Wow. Yeah, yeah. And I love they just walked down the aisles pushing a trolley, the four of them. What a time. Wow, according to Altham's Wikipedia page notable residents include Wilbur Wilde. Wow.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Merrick Watts, did know that. Says here, Cadell Evans, Cyclists. Holy. Winner of the Tour de France. These are some big names. Peter Hitchner, newsreaders. The Hitch. Is this true? Is the Hitch from Eltham?
Starting point is 01:12:25 Eltham is a real hotspot. Emily Browning, the actor I did know that. She was a couple of years older than me at school, and I went to a different school, but I knew people that went to school with her. Is that Emily Brown? In a bunch of show movies, she was like a child actor,
Starting point is 01:12:38 but then also has gone on to be in lots and lots of stuff. Yeah, cool. Merrick Watts is the first stand-up show I ever saw. And I was, when I did sub-briety letters and numbers last year or this year, whenever it was, he was on it. I said that, I said,
Starting point is 01:12:57 you're the first. You're the first. The first company show over to talk, Merrick. Oh, pleasure to meet you. That's great. I mean, and he looks better than ever, doesn't he? Oh, yeah. Fit as a fiddle.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Very fit man. Very fit man. What was the name of that actor? We've got sidetracks so quickly. Who's about Emily Browning. Emily Browning. That's right. I want to know.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Oh, yep. Yep. I know her from a bunch of things. Yeah, and still in lots of stuff. She went to your school. Well, she went to Elthamai school, which is not the school I went to, but I knew lots of we had mutual friends. You had a few parties and things like that.
Starting point is 01:13:31 None of these show. Oh, no, I've heard of the man who sued God with Billy Connolly. I don't know if I've seen it, though. Limitie Schnickett. Ghost ship. What do I recognise her? I haven't seen any of these. Oh, Ned Kelly with the Joker.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Leith Ledger. Oh, boy. Brain's gone real well. All right. Who are we taught? Mark Wend, that was our first fair quote of question. Feels like I read that out three weeks ago. Thank you very much, Mark.
Starting point is 01:14:05 And congratulations on living so close to where someone got their first real six string. Damn right. So cool. Next up I'd love to thank Lauren Joyner, aka Sandwich Aficionado. I love a sandwich. Me too. And Lauren is offering us a fact writing. I'm using fact loosely here.
Starting point is 01:14:24 My husband and I audibly gasped in unison while listening to episode 4.0. to The Great Wine Fraud because of the mention of Hollywood Jeff with 1F and his masterpiece, Goolies. Oh, yeah. That's so funny because I was listening, I wasn't on that episode, but I was listening to that. I remember where I was in the supermarket. When you heard Goolies.
Starting point is 01:14:47 When I heard you were talking about goolies. And you were later, you were surprised that in England they're a nickname for balls because I'm like, of course Goolies are a nickname for balls. but as I read it here, G-H-O-U-L-I-S, I wouldn't have connected the two there. Anyway, back to Lauren. She continues by saying,
Starting point is 01:15:11 we enjoyed watching truly shitty horror movies in October and this one, this was one of our picks in 2021. It has lived rent-free in my head since. Now, time for facts. The movie was in production at the same, same time as Gremlin's, but stalled because of budget stuff, so Gremlin's came out first. Gullies is massively different in that a college dude inherits a mansion and within like a day
Starting point is 01:15:38 or two becomes a satanic cult leader who tries to sacrifice his friends, brackets, I think. Including Mariska Hargati. Oh, wow. Lor-N-O-R-N-O-R-R-E-U in her first role. The Gullies are just there, I guess. I still don't understand how they factor in. The movie starts with a human sacrifice and the cover image of the gooly coming out of the toilet in suspenders was definitely not in the movie. Though they added a toilet gooly in post to make it seem more whimsical like gremlins.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Also the production company that made it is called googly productions. So they were really putting all their eggs in one basket or all their goolies in one toilet. All that to say, watch it and laugh at it. It's truly terrible in the best way. Thank you so much, Lauren. That's fantastic. Great one. I love a follow-up on a, on a tangent.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Yeah, I love thinking about goleys. The guy, was it, maybe the guy, the main character in that episode, was he, did he have a hand in producing that or something? I think his friend was Hollywood Jeff. Right. He drank wine with a lot. Hollywood Jeff. And they're in a couple of those wine-drinking societies together, yeah. Hollywood Jeff is so fun.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Thank you, Lauren. The next one comes from Jacobi Austin D'Angul. and Jacoby, aka, reformed writer of bloody long fact quotes and questions, sorry, Jess. And Jacoby... She's not listening, man. She's taking the headphones off. I was wondering why she had to head off. She looked ahead at the fact quotes and questions, which I never do.
Starting point is 01:17:11 I don't read them until I read them out. Yes, she hacked the dock. And Jacoby's asking a question writing, hello, Matt, Jess, and Dave. He said and the rest, but I refuse to. Oh my God, Jacoby. I was sticking up for you. I think he chose you because you're the strongest of us. I can take it.
Starting point is 01:17:29 But also, you're the one who loves that joke about the most. And the rest. After my last fact, which I accidentally marked as a question, turned out to be a mini-reporter. I decided that I must shorten these facts, quotes, and questions for everyone's sake. I'd like to turn in an actual question this time. And the question is, which Parks and Rec character are you most like? Oh, do you watch it?
Starting point is 01:17:53 Yeah. I wish Jess was here because she's watched it like 38 times. Okay. Who am I most like? Who do I most like? I think during COVID I tried to watch it and I didn't get through the first season. And everyone says, you don't watch the first season. So the second.
Starting point is 01:18:07 So that for every show, which is so bad. But, you know, I'm not sure who I would be. They all seem nice. Probably Leslie Man. No. Leslie Nope. Leslie Nope. She's not playing the real person, Leslie Man.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Do you think I'd be a Leslie nope? Yes or nope? I'm going to say nope. While you're thinking, David. I don't want to admit it, but maybe I'm a bit uptight like Ben. Who's the one that gets with Leslie? Gets with her? Well, they know they get together.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Is that Adam Scott? Adam Scott. He's a bit uptight. I've been, I didn't, I haven't listened yet, actually. But Adam Scott Ockerman have just started a new series of there. You talk a new, too to me podcast. Oh, yes, you love that.
Starting point is 01:18:55 It's with Bruce Springsteen. Oh, and the title of it is. Um, good question. You spring and Springsteen on my bean. That's great. That's really, really good. Jacoby answers his own question here. Do you want to hear it, Dave?
Starting point is 01:19:09 Yes, please. We always encourage people in the fact, Quetta question section to answer their own questions if they can. Jacoby writes, since my, since it's my favorite show, I'm a bit like all the characters, but lately I've been feeling a lot like Leslie. Way too excited. about things, very talkative, and a huge love for waffles and other breakfast foods. I'm trying to be more like Ron.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Yeah, well, I don't think he's talked me out of feeling like Leslie there. I like breakfast foods. Yeah. You definitely know Ron. Ron's big on eating meat. Yeah. And he's like also very handy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Whereas I'm very handsy. Your words, not mine. My favorite character is probably Jerry. Jerry. You know, Jerry? Very funny. Also note is Gary? Okay. Oh, I see Gary from Gary? People have sent me that meme a lot, which is just like a quote of a guy saying,
Starting point is 01:20:03 I'm Gary from Gary, Indiana or something. I can't remember. I've seen most of it years ago. If there's a Gary, I'm going to say I'm a Gary. Unless you can tell me who I am. You're in a better position than me. I mean, it's difficult. I don't know the show as well. I feel like I've got the temperament of Ron Swanson, maybe, at times. You've got the must.
Starting point is 01:20:23 The mustache. The mustache. That's what I meant. That's what I meant tempera mustache. Great question, Jacoby. Dave, you've put him in a spin. He's taking this very seriously. Okay, Jacoby.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Because I'm trying to look at all the characters now. Being like, do I remember who that one was? What about the guy who's now the superhero? Andy Dwyer, played by Chris Pratt. Yeah. Am I like him? He's a bit goofy? Goofy?
Starting point is 01:20:48 I'm pretty goofy. Very funny. On purpose, though? Yeah. No, no, not on purpose. Yeah. Well, that sounds like me. Yeah, okay, maybe we'll give you that.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Give you that. All right. I'm Chris Pratt. And, um, Jess. Why don't we, I reckon you can put an asterisk that we can come back to that question because she'd enjoy answering this one,
Starting point is 01:21:08 I think, because she's a big fan of the show, big fan. Jogby, feel free to send it in again. Yeah. We want to know from Jess. I mean,
Starting point is 01:21:16 that helps prove that we really don't read it. She's nearly always here. I swear. Yeah, she hasn't been lately, but she normally is. But the last one this week's come from, the last one this week comes from Sky. Okay, maker upper of faxter. Of faxter.
Starting point is 01:21:34 And where you can write fake, quote, a question, break, suggestion, etc. Sky's written fake fact. Great. Writing, the green at Packers were all originally embalmers, and the name comes from the ass packing. Is this for Green Bay Packers? I think it's meant to say the Green Bay Packers but it says the Green At Packers were all...
Starting point is 01:22:04 I wonder what time of night that came in. That's funny. It's hard to know because in Australian time that came in at nearly 3am. So depending on where Skies from, I wouldn't be surprised if that's a late-night-night pop fact. Or it just popped into your mind, I've got to write that.
Starting point is 01:22:19 That's my fact. I've got to question. It's a Green Bay, back. I can write this fake fact. They used to bombard people and pack their asses. The green eight ad packers. Sky, that is fantastic work. Thanks so much.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I love some more fake facts. That's fun. Really appreciate the fine work of Sky, Jacoby, Lauren and Mark. The next thing we like to do is thank a few of our other great patron supporters. Normally, Jess comes up with a bit of a game based on the topic of the day. Dave, any thoughts on this? What are they striking for? Yeah, or over there, like instead of Newsboys.
Starting point is 01:22:54 What kind of... What kind of boys are they? Yeah. Newsies. Newsboys. Yeah, you could say what they're striking for. Am I right? Does this make sense? Paper Boys, is that a phrase? Yeah, paper, but that's what you were.
Starting point is 01:23:11 That's what I was when I was a kid, right? That's what I was when I was a kid, right? Yeah, that's right. You used to have paper boy. You had a paper round. Yeah. You're a paper boy. You're a paper boy.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Paper boy. But in the old times, or at least in the American time, Times. News boys. News boys. It's not as good. Newsies. Surely. Paper boy. That just sounds better. The peas and the bees. The peas and the bees. Got it all. All right. How about do you want to read out the names or do you want to come up with the kind of boys they are? How about I start out reading out the names and then we can swap. Okay. Okay. From Mount Pleasant in South Carolina. Okay. We have Alex Drew. Thank you, Alex. A garden boy.
Starting point is 01:23:54 So this is what Alex does. And I was hearing about this from Bill Bryson book, but there was a time where rich people would pay for someone to live in their garden, like a living gnome. And they have their own little house and they just have to be there and just live there. That was the job and they got paid. But the job is to look after the garden? No, no.
Starting point is 01:24:18 The job is just to be a living gnome. So that's what Alex Drew is a garden boy, just living in a garden apparently everyone lost interest no one ever stuck around I'm wondering if it's if there's enough in it for a topic because it sounds incredible
Starting point is 01:24:32 it's really interesting and it was just kind of like I'm rich enough I'll have this yeah it's just like for my entertainment it's just a bit of fun in the garden some people have a little concrete gnome I've got a real name I've got a real name
Starting point is 01:24:45 wow Alex's true and we should say for these people if you're not a boy or have never been a boy You're all honorary boys this week. Wow. And Dave has the power to do that. He's a head boy. I'm a head boy.
Starting point is 01:24:57 And I'm bestowing upon you the right to call yourself a boy. Next up we have from location unknown. We can only assume it's deep within the fortress of the malls. And thank you to Ariel or Ariel Woodhouse. Oh, what a great name. Would have made a great name for a garden boy. But I think Ariel Woodhouse is a... Fly boy.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Okay, talk me through a fly boy. You fly boys. Fly boy. Well, they can, the boys that can fly basically. Right. Winged boys. But again, this is just rich people pay you to wear wings and they have a harness rigged up.
Starting point is 01:25:42 So they're like, you look like you're a butterfly, basically. So they've got a big butterfly butterboy enclosure. You just sort of hang from the ceiling. And you're sort of, yeah, like you're flying around. And that's your full-time gig. You do it 24-7. Not 24-7.
Starting point is 01:25:57 You get your eight hours on. There's three of you that rotate. Right. But it's a fly-in, fly-out kind of game. It's a FIFO gig, yeah. Great one. From Limassol in, my God, where's C-Y? C-Y?
Starting point is 01:26:12 C-Y. I think that's Cyprus, maybe? Yeah, my goodness. Could it be? Could it be? Limassol in Cyprus. Fantastic. A big shout-out and a big thank you. Two, I've lost the tab beer
Starting point is 01:26:23 Because I was just so excited about Googling my limousolers. Big thank you to Andrew Beer. Andrew Beer. Oh, that's great. Is it a beer boy? Could it be a beer boy? What's a beer boy?
Starting point is 01:26:32 He's a, I think Andrew beer is a beer boy. So what Andrew does is he lives in a rich person's bar in their basement. And he just, it's like a standing spa, but it's in the shape of a Stein. Or a Stein full of beer. And he's just there. like arms up on the edge of the stein.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Oh, right. Like you swam up to a swim up bar, but he's just swim up steams. Swim up Stein. Yeah, so he's just there. Just to add a bit of ambiance into the rich people's home bar. Yeah, that's my bar. That's my beer boy. Thank you so much to Andrew.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Be able to look at Limassol. It's on the southern coast of Cyprus. It's known for the centuries-old Limassol Castle and home to the Cyprus medieval museum. Beer boy. So good. I've got to tell you, it looks very beautiful. Thanks, beer boy. And thank you now from Greenville.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Also, South Carolina, my goodness, it's Garrett Danelli. Garrett Danelli, Homeboy. And so Garrett basically what he does. A rich person, right? Yeah. Pays for Garrett just to be around the home. Just to see, just like, oh, no, no, people will say sometimes the rich are out of touch or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:49 But what Garrett does is he allows his owner or employer. Yeah. You could say to be like, no, no, I'm still in touch. I've got my own homeboy. I'd talk to them in most weeks. He keeps me grounded, my homeboy. My home boy keeps me grounded. You've got to keep my homeboys around. And yeah, Garrett is one of many homeboys. The rich you are, the more homeboys you have. Oh, wow. So you have like a full entourage of homeboys. Full entourage of homeboys.
Starting point is 01:28:17 If you're, you know, quite wealthy. Everyone's got a turtle. Like a, yeah, that's a different thing. Good on you, Garrett Danali. Great name. And thank you to two people this time, from Appleton all the way over in Wisconsin. Thank you to Harrison and Rebecca Alice. Appleton makes me think fruit, makes me think at multiples.
Starting point is 01:28:41 We've got boisenberries. Harrison and Rebecca are the boys and berries. So rich people pay for them. sort of like in a Willy Wonka type thing world, they've figured out the recipe to make human Boys and Berry Boys. And Harrison and Rebecca, they each morning when they clock on, they ate the syrup or drink it.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Syrup's funny because it's sort of, it's very viscous, so do you eat it or do you drink it? I chew it, yeah, just to make sure. And yeah, they have that, they become boys and boys and,
Starting point is 01:29:17 berries, which were of course, I think, popularised on the, on that farm in America. That's right. We did a Patreon bonus episode where I talked to you and Jess through some words named after people and boisenberry is named after the creator of the boisenberry, something boisen who's basically sold the idea for a very low price to another farmer who made millions of them, made boisen berries. It's a mixture of other berries crossbred together. Anne Harrison and Rebecca crossbred to make the Boys and Berry Boys.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Wow. And you never believe this. They're from Appleton in Wisconsin. And that is not very far from Green Bay, Wisconsin, where. Where they pack asses. As the funeral people. I think it looks to be about 10 to 20K out of Green Bay. Bloody hell.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Appleton is such a nice name for a place. I'd like to think now from Crest Mead in Queensland, And it's Kylie Tully. Kylie Tully is a boy wonder. So what Kylie does is she's hired by a rich man, Bruce Wayne, and basically just does sidekick duties. Yeah, right, rides in the sidecar. Give something for Bruce to bounce off.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Yeah, right, sometimes literally. Yeah, yeah. Pau. Bounce, boeing. That's sort of. He uses them like a human trampoline. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Kylie, tough job.
Starting point is 01:30:43 but well-paying job. Exactly. He's a billionaire. Yeah, yeah. Come on. And we all know that billionaires get that way by paying everyone fairly. Exactly. Like giving away their way and acting ethically in every single possible way.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Thank you to Carly. I would like to thank now from Gilroy in California. Me being so rough on billionaires today is going to come back to bite me when I'm a really big billionaire. It's embarrassing for you. People will play this tape to you. Delete the tapes. Oh my gosh. I was being ironic.
Starting point is 01:31:12 I think actually being a billionaire is one. of the most cool things you can do. Some of the most humane things you can do. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sometimes sharing means keeping it, you know? Sharing isn't always giving. Sometimes it's taking and keeping.
Starting point is 01:31:28 I share it with myself. Yeah. Just in case. I'm keeping it safe for everyone. That's right. I mean, I trust myself, but I don't trust anyone else. No. So I'm going to keep it and let me know if you need it.
Starting point is 01:31:39 No, no, let me know if you really need it. No, this doesn't count. No, your wages and your life, livelihood doesn't care. From Gilroy in California, it's Rowan Williams. What about Rowan Williams is the bin boy. Oh, bin boy. You know, rich people. They don't like getting their hands dirty.
Starting point is 01:31:55 No. Often the dirtiest part of taking out the trash. It's living in the trash camp. It's when you put it in the bin and you drop it off. But don't worry, there's a human bin boy that pops up, Oscar the Grouch Star, and says, I'll take that, sir. In fact, doesn't just say that, says, thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. May I have another.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Thank you for this bag of treasures. I will treasure this. I treasure this bag of rubbish, sir. To me it's not rubbish. It's gold. And that accent comes from Rowan Williams from Gilroy, California. You can't you? You can't hear the sun shine off his voice there, can't you?
Starting point is 01:32:33 And second to last, but definitely... Not second to least. Exactly. From location unknown, another fortress dweller we can imagine it's Kassai. And it's Keziah O'Neill. Kazaya. Keziah, the Messiah. Keziah is not the Messiah.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Kazai is just a very naughty boy. The naughty boy. The naughty boy. And rich people need these around. You need a naughty boy. Some of they used to go on jesters, but these days they call them naughty boys. And they, you know, they just do silly things to sort of appease the, the, the king and queen.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Yeah, do a bit of juggling, falling over, a bit of slapstick. Yeah, and the modern day king and queens are of course media moguls. Yeah, that's right. You're ripet Murdox. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Et cetera. And finally, I'd like to think from location also unknown. Maybe right next to because I are in the fortress. Thank you to Paul. Paul.
Starting point is 01:33:33 You know who you are, Paul. Serename, such as then. I don't know if Paul is looking to stay anonymous. So I'm just going off your email address there, Paul, going, could that be me?
Starting point is 01:33:42 Could it be me? How many Pauls are in this mole house? Raise your hands. But it's so dark in there. They can't see. Who's got, how many, how many of you got? Now click your hands. Okay, I'm confused.
Starting point is 01:33:53 I'm hearing a lot of clicks. He click it once each, but then not at the same time. One after the other place. Oh, start again. I've lost count. And Paul, the final boy is the final boy. Oh, the final boy. The last ever boy.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Wow. So what the rich people have done to Paul is, frozen him in time. As we're all, as humanity starts to die out, they're realizing that eventually everyone's going to be old and we'll have no boys left. And they're like, as all the poor, can you imagine? As all the poor in the world dies, they're all too old. The rich people to have babies.
Starting point is 01:34:31 So they've got the final boy, the forever boy. The forever boy. And that is Paul. So they share them around. Everyone gets a week with the boy, the forever boy. I want to just sit in your lounge room. Yeah. And you go, hey, that's the boy, the last ever boy we've got him this week.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Yeah, we've got the boy this week. Do you want to go play catch final boy? Yeah, that sort of stuff. So you get like one of those Velcro balls and just throw it at the tank that's, yeah. Yeah. Oh, your picture. Oh, you were watching, I was imagining he was frozen in some sort of tank.
Starting point is 01:35:01 That's funny. Like Austin Powers style when he's thorn out. I was thinking they had the technology so they could just like go, you don't age now. But that yours is much funnier. You said the phrase frozen in time. But you just meant he'll never age. He'll never age. No, yours is a flesh on here.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Paul is in a tank. I imagine the way I phrase that, I think most people listening are like, yeah, we also were picturing a boy in a block. How do you play catchers? Well, thanks to all our great boys. All the best boys. They're all best boys in my heart. Yeah, they each had a different title, but all in all, the best boys.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Thank you so much to Paul because of Rowan, Kylie, Harris and Rebecca. Garrett, Andrew, Ariel and Alex. The last thing we need to do, Dave, is welcome a few people into the Triptage Club. This week, it looks like we have seven inductees. Now, do you want to explain what this thing's all about? Basically, this is our Hall of Fame, our Triptage Club, where we celebrate people that have been supporting the show
Starting point is 01:36:00 for three consecutive years. We've already given them a shout out, but to enshrine them in our Hall of Fame, we welcome them into the clubhouse. Their name goes up on a wall. Everyone cheers them as they come in. It's a real theatre of the mind experience. You're in.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Just is behind the bar. Got food and snacks. I book music. Matt's there hanging out with you. Playing some snooker. Playing some foosball. You know, we've got the big game, whatever you want it to be,
Starting point is 01:36:22 up on the screen. The big games there. Exactly. The biggest game of all. Exactly. We've got the game of life. Yes. We've got secret cameras in people's homes and we put them up.
Starting point is 01:36:33 This is what I imagine rich people do. It does watch people. It's a real catna-sebedeen stuff. Yeah. Can I only ever remember one piece of that world? Right now I can't think of the name of it. The Hunger Games. The Hunger Games.
Starting point is 01:36:48 It's a real Hunger Games, no. Suzanne Collins. Sometimes I just remember the bird or whatever, but I now can't remember that bit. My brain only ever has room for one part. One bit. Well, you've got Katniss. That's a good part. No, you've pushed that bit out by saying Hunger Games.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Anyway, so we've got seven inductees this week. Jess normally has some food up. behind the bar. She let us know that the food they're serving this week is fish and chips wrapped up in newspaper. Oh my gosh. And the drinks are, they're newsy drinks and they're just made with black and white and they're red all over. The black, black sandbooker, the white milk. This is exactly what I did last week. It was black, modern red and the red's cranberry juice. We've rebadged it. No one drank them last week. It was a new name. And yes. And Dave, you've booked a band?
Starting point is 01:37:42 You're normally booked a band. You're never going to believe it. This person has been gracing our screens for 35 years now. 35 years. 35 years. And obviously takes a long time to book. This has been 35 years in the making ever since I saw this man when he was but a boy. You're not talking about.
Starting point is 01:37:58 I am talking about Emily Browning? No, even older, star of newsies. Christian Bale is here to do a mixture of music and monologues. Oh, are any of the monologues him abusing? using the crew. That's the encore. That's the encore. Him coming out and absolutely losing his mind at some poor crew member.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Yeah, that's going to be fantastic. Oh, and if you, you know, it could be you. That's right. We'll get you on stage and, you know, you'll have a camera in your hand and he'll come out and absolutely berate you. Oh, wow. That's the kind of stuff you can get. These are the once-in-a-lifetime opportunities you get inside the triptych club.
Starting point is 01:38:43 That's right. And for new listeners, we do now know that it's pronounced triptych. That's right. It's a joke that we've always been in on. We've been in on it. My art teacher and I've just said it wrong. I've just said it wrong as well. You've passed it on to so many people.
Starting point is 01:38:56 I know. We've even had someone comment before saying that they corrected someone who said triptych. And they're like, actually it's triptych. And then they were wrong. That gave me the old full body cringe. Yeah, I felt so bad for you. I'm so sorry. But take it up with Miss Dale.
Starting point is 01:39:11 Any relation to the cricketer? From Adam Dale. Oh my God. Maybe. Remember that's who I was thinking of. The former student. I thought you were, when you said Adam Dale, I thought Alan Dale, the Australian actor who was on neighbors and then the O.C. And would you believe that that is what I first typed into Google.
Starting point is 01:39:30 I would believe that. Cricketer Alan Dale, it said, did you mean Adam Dale? And I went, yes. And you're also confusing with the South African fast bowler Allen? Dale Stain. Oh, yeah. Or are you talking about Alan Donald? Alan Donald.
Starting point is 01:39:44 Anyway, we've got seven inductees this week. Dave's on stage. He's going to be hyping you up. The crowd's going to go wild. I'm on the door. I'm going to lift the velvet rope. I'm going to read your name off the list. Jogging.
Starting point is 01:39:56 We want you getting up a bit of momentum so you can really receive the adulation as it's intended. And that is with some force. Some velocity. All right, here we go. First up, I'd love to welcome into the club from Minneapolis, Minnesota, in the United States. It's Zoe. Zoe is my broie. One of the great boys.
Starting point is 01:40:18 It's a very boyy episode, this one. From St. Veit, St. Veit and Goulson in Austria. Incredible. It's Daniel Graham. Bam. Wham. Oh, no, wam, bam, bam, thank you, Daniel Graham. From Reservoir in Victoria here in Melbourne,
Starting point is 01:40:37 in Australia, it's emmelesque. Reservoir, never a bore, it's emmelsk. And from Rosetta in Tasmania, Australia, I'd love to welcome into the club. We met this man during the comedy festival as David Loring. An absolute delight. Nothing better from Rosetta. It's David Loring.
Starting point is 01:40:57 What a delight catching the late flight. Yeah, that's right. I'd also love to welcome into the club from Brown Hill. Beautiful name for a place. Australia, it's page winkle. Turn the page. What do you see? It's page winkle.
Starting point is 01:41:15 So, is that anything? Turn the page. What do you get? It's page winkle. Just move on. Yeah. Yep. And from address unknown,
Starting point is 01:41:27 you can only assume from deep within the fortress of the moles. It's Katie, possibly with a surname, Southern with B. More like Katie 180. So it's Katie 180. Yeah, Katie 180. Pretty good. You turn back around and come back in here because that's where we want you. Come on in.
Starting point is 01:41:43 Turn the page 180. Winkle. What about Winkle? There's something there. Oh, uh, sprinkle. I need more than just a sprinkle. I've paid Winkle. Yeah, fantastic.
Starting point is 01:41:53 So there's something there. And finally from Colorado Plateau. New South Wales. Here in Australia. It's Locky Toos. The new Brockie, it's Locky Toos. Locky Toos. Locky Toes or Locky Toos.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Like those. Let me write some pros. There once was a man named Locky. Is your pros in the form of a dirty limerick? Dirty limerick. Thank you so much and welcome to the club. Please make yourselves at home. Grab some fish and chips.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Grab one of our leftover cocktails. Get ready to be berated by Christian Bale. Locky, Cavy, Page, David, Emilesk, Daniel and Zoe. You're in here for love. Sorry, but why would you want to leave? Why would you want? No other are I to leave yet. Thank God.
Starting point is 01:42:40 That's the end of the episode. Thank you so much for joining us. You can always get in contact at any time. Do go on pod.com. That's the website. We've got links to our Patreon. We've got links to all the other shows that we do on this little network that we've started. Who knew it with Matt Stewart's hit one year anniversary?
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Starting point is 01:43:16 With my wife. Gabriela White came on. My white. My white, Gabriela. And yeah, that was a lot of fun. You know, heavy book, but I think we still have a good time on it. And I've got a bunch more episodes coming up soon. And yeah, so there's links on our website.
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