Do Go On - 416 - The Tunguska event

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

At 7:14 AM on the 30th of June, 1908 there was an enormous explosion affecting more than 100 square km of pine forest near the Podkamennaya Tunguska River in central Siberia. What caused this mysterious explosion? And are there lots of wild theories? Tune in to hear guest reporter Alasdair Tremblay-Birchall explain! This is the second episode of Block 2023!This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 00:04:23 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Check out ATB's mammoth 400th episode of Two in the Think Tank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcqwvOc1m7sSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/ Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of DoGo One. My name is Dave Warnke and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart. Hello, Matt. Hey, Dave.

Uh, quick question. How good is it to be alive? Well, I think it's pretty good, but I'm going to check in with a third person right now for their opinion. And please welcome back to the show. We are so stoked to have none other than the one, the only, Alistair, Trumblay, Bertchall. It is me. None other. None other.

Hello. David, Matthew. So good to have you in here. Jessica. Jessica's absent, or is it Bopika on this part? Yeah, we call it, short for Bopika. Yeah, Bobbika. Yeah, I think she answers to both.

Yeah, great. Can you believe it's Bloc once again? I can believe it because I sit on my hands until Block arrives. Oh, so when your hands are numb and you, you know, doing embarrassed things with them, and then I write a report, and I write a report so it feels like someone else is writing it, you know? Yeah, I mean, Al, I only... speak to you during block, I haven't spoke to you for over a year. Yeah, and, you know, it's been a very good year in that regard. But, but I've been sitting by the phone and thinking about topics that

I could do, and then none of them lined up with the things, the topics that would be on, you know, on block. Because your previous block topics, I don't know if they've all been in block, but your previous trilogy of topics were cane for pain, lit for clit, lit for clit, lit for cloiska. Yeah, yeah. I, you know, canonically, I refer to them is the history of orifices. Yes. Trilogy. Yeah.

The first trilogy. Yeah. Could be a second. Yeah, that could be a prequel trilogy. Oh, think about that. What happened before Holes? You're just waiting for the special effects to catch up before you do your prequel. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah. Yeah. I want to replace Jabba the... Forget it. I was trying to make a reference to Star Wars and it didn't work. But, yeah, so this time I'm back. And this time, it's a non... You're going to find this very hard to believe, but this is a non-orifice themed podcast.

Okay, that's so strange. So there's no holes at all involved with this? Actually, you're closer to then you might think. There might not even be an indentation. Oh, my God. Well, before we get into the timing match, should you explain to new listeners who might not know, what is Blockbuster toba? Blockbuster toba or Blocktofer grace period as something.

people refer to it as is the most joyous time in the do-go on universe's year. And it's where we do the biggest topics. We put them up to a big public vote. We've had thousands of voters. And now we're counting down the top nine most voted for slash most requested topics of 23. We're up to the eighth most voted for topic now with Alistair Trombly Burtle. And Al, And Al, I mean, we kind of know what the topic is because we had to give it to you. Sure. But do you have a question to get us on the topic? I sure do.

I sure do. Hopefully everybody ignored the title when they clicked on the link to see what the episode was going to be. Everyone goes in blind. Okay, here we go. Now, we all know that Nikola Tesla's greatest invention was alternating current electricity. Acca daca. That's right. Well, not the dacca.

part. That was, that was just the ACA. Yeah, he was just the ACA. Yeah, he came up with the DACA. Yeah. Well, I think that was Edison. Edison. Bob Scott.

Yeah. Bob Scott was the Edison. That's right. To Malcolm Young's Tesla. That's right. Sorry, Angus. Now, but what do you think was his potential worst thing that he ever did? Oh, so is it an invention?

I mean, I would say it's the potential result of one of his invention. I'm going to say giving naming rights to Elon Musk. Yes, that's exactly it. We did it. All right, that's it. Close. Uh, no. According to some conspiracy theorists, it's the Tunguska impact.

The Tunguska event. Oh, an impact, an event. That's one of those words I've only ever seen written down. Oh, yeah. I love hearing how it's pronounced. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, I believe it's of a Russian origin or what some would call Siberia, because that's the region that it happened in. Right by the Tonguska River.

Were any huskies involved? Several, several huskies. Yeah? Tunguskis. Several local tunguski. Yeah. All right. Now, I want you to.

You take your mind to Siberia right now, right? To the Siberian tiger, and I'm talking tiger, T-A-I-G-A, not T-I-G-E-R. Okay. Okay, you should see the pictures in my mind swirling. Tiger is a- I went from a big cat to now like a big question mark. Yeah, no, tigers are just essentially just sub-arctic forests, very large to some Canada. There's some Russia, very close, as you approach to North Pole, very important forests for our climate.

What gum trees? You know what? I can't tell you the types of trees. Probably gums. Yeah. I think there's probably some pine in there. Oh, yeah. Maybe some cedars.

A large hedge maze. Yeah. Oh, cool. That's right. Yeah. I mean, every forest is itself kind of a hedge maze. That's just a big more. Is the one dillagong hedge maze there?

Yeah, Wong Dillegong. Yeah, that seems Russian. Okay, now picture this. You're in Siberia. Your name is Ivan Axinov, and you're carving up an elk that you'd just killed, when suddenly you see a flaming orb flying towards you. After you come to, you see that you're surrounded by burning, falling trees. As you make your way through the landscape, first to return to camp, then to try to extinguish the, the fire, you no longer recognize the familiar hunting grounds that you once knew. Everything has been rearranged, mountains shifted, and wetlands unsettled, so that new lakes

fill depressions in the ground. Whoa. Now, I want you to picture that you're a woman named Aculina, and you were sleeping in your swayed-covered tent. When you're awakened by a violent tremor, when you step outside, the forest is on fire. You hear a crashing sound. You see a dazzling light, and then you faint. When you regain consciousness, your possessions are smoldering, and your skin is burned.

Possession smoldering sounds good, but not skin burned. Sure. But I love that the lot. What was it a... What was dazzling? Oh, look at that lot. I'm dazzled by it. Oh, yeah.

That's a dazzling light. I will say that I don't know if Swade is the best... Kent covering. No, you don't think so? Well, I learn on Seinfeld. It doesn't do well in the rain. Sure, but then you're in a very remote part of Russia, and therefore there's fewer people there to judge you. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. And now, thirdly, and possibly finally, you now picture yourself as someone called SB Seminov of Vanavara, a town about 60 kilometers south-southeast of the epicenter of the... Tunguska event, right? And you're sitting on the porch of a house at the trading station of Vanavara at breakfast time and looking towards the north. You've just raised your axe to hoop a cask. To hoop a cask. Yeah, you're about to hoop a cask. You know, when you put a hoop around like a cask to hold it together, like a barrel or something like that? Oh, yeah. I don't know what the axe does, but this is what he's saying. I thought that was real jargon. I'm like,

You speak your actual Russian here? Hoopakask. When suddenly in the north above the Tunguska Road, the sky is split in two and high above the forest. The whole northern part of the sky

appears to be covered with fire. At that moment, you feel a great heat as if your shirt had caught fire. This heat comes from the north side. You want to pull off your shirt and throw it away. At that moment, there's a huge bang in the sky and a mighty

crash is heard. You're thrown to the ground about five and a half meters away from the porch. And for a moment, you lose consciousness. Your wife runs out and carries you to the hut. The crash is followed by a noise like falling stones from the sky or guns firing. The earth trembles. And when you lay on the ground, you cover your head because you're afraid that stones might hit it. At the moment when the sky opens a hot wind, as from a cannon blows past the huts from the north, and you feel its mark on the ground in the form of little paths, damaged onion plants. Oh, no. I was going to eat those.

Are they damaged in a way that they're being cooked perfectly? That's what they're roasted and they're browned to perfection. Later, it turns out that many pains in the windows have been blown out, and the iron hasp in the door of... the barn has been broken. Not the hat. No, that was my favourite house. Oh, God.

First I had the cask. Now I've got the hasp. And then when the fire appears, you see Kassolopov, who was working near the window of the house, sitting down on the ground, sees his head with both hands. Oh, no. And then run into the hut. Kasalapov, are you okay? I was thinking, you know, first he was working there.

He was on the ground. Come on, mate. Yeah. What could have done this? Working hard or hardly working, Kassolapov. What could have done this? There's so many things. There's orbs.

There's fire skies. There's stones. The mountains literally moved to occasion. That's the wildest thing. New lakes? What could have done this? The year is 1908. It's 7.13 a.m. on June 30th.

Maybe it's an end of financial year blowout. The big sail we've all been waiting for. What has happened is. that nearly 800 square miles of boreal forest have been flattened, and entire herds of reindeer have been left in charred piles. Oh. This explosion, its effects were seen and felt around the world. A man, 40 miles away, was thrown from his chair.

Around the world. 40 miles away, a guy fell from a chair. One distant witness reported seeing pillars of fire. with the rising sun, seismographs in Western Europe recorded seismic waves from a perturbation, suggesting that somebody might have been perturbating. Oh, man, the worst time to get done perturbating. Yeah, absolutely. Five hours later, after the event, it was registered, as there was an air blast registered

at six different meteorological stations in England, 6,000 kilometers away. Reporters reported strange glowing clouds, colorful sunsets, and a luminescence in the night. A glowing night reported as far as Europe, allowing people to read newspapers at nighttime from that very glow. The very newspapers that reported that very glow. Whoa. Wait, how's that? That's a long glow, I guess. It's a very big long.

Or a very quick delivery boy. It went for a few days. It went for a few nights. Bloody hell. International newspapers speculated. about a possible volcanic explosion, remembering, of course, the eruption of Krakatoa in 1883, only a mere 25 or 26 years earlier. However, the inaccessibility of the region and the unstable political situation in Russia

prevented further research. Okay, so it wasn't until this event wasn't properly investigated for 19 years. What is this? an allegation by a famous comedian that he acted inappropriately? All right. That was my joke for that. Most of the witnesses were indigenous people to the area, Evanki, herders and hunters.

Now, from the beginning, the Evanki were inclined to keep the news quiet because they're like they were nomads and they lived in quite a remote location, which meant that they kind of were able to escape tax. taxation from Russia. And it was 30th of June. Yeah, that's true. You want to keep quiet, you know? You don't want them to find all your paperwork.

I mean, and it's miracle. Like, all my receipts have been burned. Yeah, they can't get me. The paper trail is gone. This is a miracle. Sorry. The explosion was just the sound of a bunch of nomadic people turning on their shredders. That's right, yeah.

Oh, sorry, my reindeer ate my taxation documents and then a huge explosion charred my reindeer. Oh, so tell us all those times. So, and so, and because they were, uh, Russia was in a kind of weird political empire situation, they preferred not to call attention to themselves, right? So they didn't really want, and they were particularly wary of outsiders examining rocks because that meant that people might, you know, there might be discover gold and then there might be a gold rush in the area and then push, they'd get pushed off their,

off their land. So other Avenki, these are the indigenous people, uh, warned other people not. not to speak about the explosion, who, because it might attract dangerous curiosity. Some of Inki spoke about the event as potentially an act of Ogdi, a spirit in their animalistic belief system. According to one version of the story, rival shamans had been fighting with the help of disease-bearing spirits. And now one of the shamans had called on Ogdi to destroy enemy land and with a flock of

iron birds, and this was the source of the fiery orb and the thousands of acres of flattened forest. Iron birds. Yeah. I mean, if you're a shaman, that's what you call upon. Yeah. I think. Did I say there's like 800 million trees had been knocked down?

I don't think so. Well, I mean, I think I was saving some info for later, but I couldn't help but spill it. That's a lot of trees. A hundred million trees. Something 800 or 80. I'll wait till I get to the info later. And they're all gums. All, yeah.

Well, it says boreal. What's boreal mean? Yeah. Is that, is that? Is that anything to do with like Aurora Borealis? You know, is that... It's, you know, it just, yeah. It is related to that because it's just of the northern regions.

Relating to characteristic of the climatic zone south of the Arctic, especially the cold temperate region dominated by Tiger. Siberian Tiger, of course, as you know. Gums. Gums, that's right. So, tiger, trees. Tyga is forest. It's like a type of...

It's like tundra. You know? The Aussie tundra. It's like tundra, but it's its own thing. It's a separate thing. And so therefore, not tundra. That's so good. Okay.

Now, so it wasn't until 1927. So sorry. So before when I said that it wasn't investigated properly for 19 years, what I meant to say is that some of the indigenous people did walk over to it and kind of go, that was insane. Yeah. And they saw the knock down trees, right? But then nobody who was studying it from like a scientific point of view didn't examine it until 1927.

So, yeah, 19 years later, right? And there was a guy called, a Soviet scientist called Alex Elyevich Kulik. Now Kulik's a big player in this. He had just recently gotten interested in meteors because somebody had told him about a meteorobieck. but they also knew the exact location of it. And so he went there and then he just looked in the hole and he found the meteor. And he was like, you know what? This has started a lifelong passion for me and finding meteors, right?

So he decided that he was going to go investigate this thing. And so in 1927, he went up there. But he realized that this is such a remote region that he's going to need to use people who have, you know, indigenous knowledge of the area and things like that. Maps were not super helpful. Because that's what happens when you have your first meteor and it's that easy. Someone goes, it's over there and you look and go, oh, there it is. You think they're all going to be that easy. It feels like that's the kind of technique that like casinos have used with like, you know, like pokies or whatever like that.

They give you a little win. Yeah, a little, or a drug dealer. It gives you a free sample. Hey, now you've got to pay for the next one. You got to go to Siberia for this next hit. It's the same thing with asteroid hunting. The first taste is free. And then the rest is you got to do it, you know, a lot of.

You got to pay for. Sometimes with your life. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Right. So, Kulik was introduced to some of the indigenous people. Actually, the, the, a relative of the woman I mentioned earlier, he was introduced to this by an ethnographer who had been studying some of these people's cultures and, you know,

writing down some of their experiences. And so he advised Kulik on, you know, he advised Kulik on, you know, know, hey, don't offend the Evanky people, you know, they're very wary of outsiders and things like that. Anyway, and so Kulik didn't take any of this advice. And he was a real jerk to them. And he was, be like, berating them for like taking, you know, taking too long of a break on the journey up there and things like that. And then they were like, well, you know, what?

You actually have to pay us more now. And so then, anyway, he had to deal with that. But then once they got to the edge of where the blast radius was. That is a thing, a common thing that's come up in the past. where people with, like, very specific knowledge that someone's after is ignored. Yeah. And they're annoyed by them even trying to give it. Yeah.

I was thinking about the Burke and Wheels. I think it was Burke who, there are Aboriginal Australians who were trying to help him. He's struggling. He's dying of salvation. They're trying to help him. And he, I think it was him or one of the others, shot over their head to scare him away. You just try to do the, like, man, trying to save your life or whatever. You look like you're not doing well, buddy.

Hawaii! Get away from me. Come on. I've looked up, because there'll be some tree heads out there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What do you call tree people? Tree people? Arborists.

Arborists. There'll be some arbor heads out there. Apparently Siberian larch is coming up as the most common tree in Siberia. Right. But I've also saying Siberian fur. Siberian spruce, Scots pine, Aspen and other things as well. But yeah, the fact that three of them have Siberian in their name makes me confident that they're from the region.

Yeah, I'm glad that you weren't afraid to say that out loud, you know? Yeah, I wasn't. But we'll edit it out if it does make me sound foolish. Thank you. Yeah, I think that's a great idea. If any arbor heads are listening and they're like, that's wrong, just edit it out of your memory. Yeah, yeah.

Save us the trouble. What is the top of a tree called? Is that called like a, it's not called the crest of a tree or something, is it? I don't know. Anyway, it forms a canopy maybe. Yeah. Is that part of it? Yeah, I was just trying to find another word for arborhead that's like, oh, the can, you know, the can of... Trey top. The tree top. There you go. They're very literal these people, Siberian tree, tree top.

And so, Kulik made it to the edge with the, with the, with the Evanky people and, you know, and their herd of reindeer that was hauling their provisions. And then they were like, well, we're not going any further. This area is obviously cursed. It's like he was just edging to the... He was edging to the... Yeah, they were edging him closer and closer. He might have been edging himself and then, but with their help. Okay. Under their supervision.

And then when he saw it, he said by the... At first sight, the trees, the entire large forest in the mountains had tumbled onto the ground in solid rows, right? The Aveni refused to continue to the epicenter, which they consider dangerous and perhaps cursed, and surely due to Odgi's anger. Right? So Kulik then he knew he wouldn't be able to survive without them. So he turned back and then he had to return later on with a group of non-indigenous people who would firstly do everything that he said. And he would be able to venture further.

And so then on his second closer inspection, Kulik saw that the fallen trees were all oriented outwards from a central point. Ooh. Right. Perhaps this was the place that the meteor had hit, he thought. This search was particularly difficult because he'd obviously ignored the advice about how little game that there was in the area, you know, because of the destruction of the forest. And so while they were out there trying to search the area, they were having to survive largely on the stems of herbs because there were no beasts to kill, hunt. Siberian herbs? It says here's Siberian herbs.

Yeah, yeah. Wow. So what are we thinking here? Siberian spruce mint. Yeah, maybe Siberian mint, Siberian coriander. Siberian rosemary. Siberian rosemary. Imagine that, just eating a twig of rosemary.

You've got to eat a lot to get your days. Yeah. And so apparently this was, you know, this wasn't necessarily a very good time. Apparently he may have had to resort to... Siberian time. He may have even had to resort to eating his own horse. Siberian horse. Siberian eat

That's taking us back to Birkenwills again He had to eat his favorite horse I mean It's not a great solution is it No But you gotta put the roseberry on something That's true Yeah yeah

I mean is there If only there was a way You could eat a bit of the horse Yes You know and the horse still kind of being You know like friends with you Yeah and still be able to carry a load Yeah yeah

Like I mean if you took a bit off each foot So you kept it That seems like the worst bit to take a bit of... A bit of eight, but then they're at the same heart. Because you're like one whole leg, obviously, it's harder for them to move around. But if they're just, you know, an inch a day... Yeah.

Well, I reckon if you may be, you know, because have you ever seen, like, people like carving, like, cow hoofs or horse hoobs or whatever like that? That stuff is basically like fingernail or something like that, right? Because I think a... It's delicious. Yeah, it is. It's just... Because I think the horse's hooves.

They originally had toes. Yeah. And it's just, it's evolved. So it's one big, Tornile, basically. Yeah. They're standing on their toe. Yeah.

It involved because people were eating their toes. Yeah. Somebody already thought of what you were saying. They ate all the toes. Now, that's all the toes we can eat. And then suddenly we were, it was a bloody four-towed horse. Freak horse was four-towed. Yeah.

So, but anyway, he wasn't able to find an impact zone. He wasn't able to find a crater. but what he did notice is that directly under what he believed was the blast's epicenter, all the trees were still standing up. Oh. Oh. Yeah. So there'd been like a blast.

The bit around it was okay, but then there was like a blast. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't like a ring. It wasn't entirely okay. All the branches had been like stripped off of them. Right. But the trees were still standing. So these are all dead.

So it's like they've all. been paused in time? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think the standing ones might still be alive, but everything else has been knocked down. And it's, even in the near 20 years, nothing. It's just still down. Your picture like Australian bush fire areas, yeah, the next season, there'll be regrowth and it'll change. So 19 years, it would look totally different. But is this still looking pretty similar to how it was at the time? Well, I assume so. I mean, I know from were not there? My drive to Tathra, uh, because, you know, there was fires there around that area, in 2019, sort of along the coastal road there.

And there was some in Tathra in 2017 or 14. I can't remember exactly. But you do see that the trees get completely burned like that. But then you get that weird thing where like the leaves start growing it right out of the trunk. Yeah. You know? And so I think also the trees were burnt in this circumstance as well. Right.

Yeah. But yeah. So that was, I don't know. So you- Very different climate, I guess, as well. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this would have been summer.

So at least it wouldn't have been like frozen over in the same kind of way. But I don't really know exactly what the, what the sub-arctic looks like in, you know, early, at the end of June as you're about to do. And you're a Canadian. And I'm a Canadian. And I've spent a lot of time in Siberia, therefore, on the other side of the world. Don't you, oh no, it's Alaska, you can see Russia across the. That's true.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, Alaska feels very close to Canada. I think it, in a lot of ways that, yeah, borders. So really, you know, and since Alaska is only a short ocean away from Siberia, and I'm only a short Alaska away from being able to look at that short ocean. But you're basically next door. I wasn't saying, because you said, you didn't say Siberian, you said sub-arctic. Isn't that what Canada is?

Well, yeah, some parts of Canada. Yeah, yeah. Some parts of Canada are actual Arctic as well. I'll wait for the apology. Most of the North Pole, I think, is in Canada. It's part of Canada, I think. More is the North Pole? Like the North, like, yeah, that kind of like Arctic.

Yeah, the Arctic area. I'm not sure exactly where they're. You got it. You got it. Yeah, that's right. I think the North Pole, like, you know what I meant. Like, you know, it's like calling, you know, a fridge by, you know, it's brand name. As I saw, I don't know what you. It's by calling tissues Kleenex.

What are you talking about? That's why I call the Arctic North Pole. But not Kleenex. Hey, not Kleenex. But it does look like a Kleenex from afar. Yeah, it's true. Similar hue. Yeah, very similar hue.

So, yeah, so all the limbs from these trees and bark had been stripped away. They looked like a forest of telephone poles. Such debranching requires fast-moving shockwaves that break off a tree's branches before the branch can transfer the impact momentum to the tree's stem. You know what that mean? Yeah, you get that? So like, as in like, if I was to try to push on your arm, right? Let's say you extend your arm and I was to push on your arm, that would eventually push you. Yeah.

Right? But if I was to push on your arm so fast that it just clean snapped your arm off. Like here by a train or something. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Or like, you know, let's say a passing, like a giant bullet. Like a really big bullet. You know, let's say it's... Like a steel bird.

Like a some kind of steel bird, exactly, sent by a shaman, you know, with a gun. Now the... Now these cold and malnourished Soviet scientists on Kulix expedition, meanwhile, they were starting to descend into a drunken brawls and affairs with locals and, uh, you know, one member of the team carved a poem into the tree at the epicenter, you know, it said to, Berger Will's style. Yeah. That's what you do. That's a brawl. Yeah. I've never been in a, in a pub brawl that hasn't had someone stop and carve a poem into a tree. I mean, it's, it's that, you know,

that's the, it's the eight mile of its day. Yeah. You know, you're right, you're, you're spitting rhymes onto a tree, you know, with a knife. doing or are you dictating? Like, you're rapping and so I was like, slow down. What was that last bit? Yeah. Well, you know, it's so hard to come up with a rhyme whilst you're speaking. So you may as well start carving. And then by the time you finish one, you know, line A, you'll make, might even be able to come up with the rhyme for. Yes. That's the kind of freestalling I could do. Yeah. One letter at a time. Plus, it's, well, has he come up with this? Exactly. And so here it says, uh, in vain, coolick, you wander. In vain, you tear out the s,

the schfagum. I think that's like moss and stuff like that, right? Because they're digging, yeah, they're digging underground to try to find any, you know, meteor material. You will not see a meteor. Now, they're disparaging him. You can see that, you know, they don't have, they don't believe in him. And you will leave the taiga in shame.

Well, this disgruntled investigator and another colleague, a member of the Communist Party, He started to denounce Kulik, who wouldn't share his chocolate or coffee with his team. Oh, okay. So they reported him to the authorities, because I guess if you're communist, you've got to share everything. Yeah. Right? The good times and the bad. Yeah.

And so then he, Kulik had to defend himself because some colleagues spoke up for him, but he had to spend several months in a sanatorium to recover from the stress of this denunciation. and then when that and the all the health effects that he he had to deal with from all these expeditions where he was finding almost nothing. Six months of eating moss. Eating moss. And chocolate and coffee. Yeah. Yeah.

And Siberian rosemary. Yeah. It sounds what if I was not expecting to go here. Drunken brawls, affairs with locals. Yeah. Poems being written. Denouncing the leader. Yeah.

Yeah, because you just remember, like, in the end, it's just like one guy who's like, I'm going to go investigate this. And then he would raise some funding. Apparently, he was very good at raising funding for these kinds of expeditions. So it says here, like that, like his greatest public relation coup was his decision to recruit the tabloid press to write alarmist articles about the prospect of him dying in the wilderness, you know, unless he received money for the research, you know. And so he would sort of paint himself as this great hero who was. going there, a hero scholar who was going there and making sure, you know, he created stories about bandits who were after him and that he was there to figure out what this thing was.

And it inspired a children's board game called TIGA for a meteorite, which went on sale in 1929. And the same year, a documentary about the expedition was released. So, like, he was, you know, all these people who are like leaders in their field. Like, I find it's like, it's like, you have to look at. everybody who's successful with some suspicion. Because in order to be super successful and popular, you just have to have that weird fucked thing inside you that is capable of asking for it.

You know, like, and really like pushing beyond the limits that most people aren't willing to. And I think there's a weird drive that I feel like is a little bit ugly that makes people, anyway, whatever. Sorry, that's my own, that's my own notes. But yeah, he's like a PR man Maybe he doesn't have that many scruples Would you say he's I would say he is low on scruples

Completely without scruple Yeah, I think is the most efficient way I could put that And he's saying he's telling people like Without the funds I'll die So he's like being like I mean the blood will be on your hands That's fine Yeah

If you're happy to live with my death Exactly Without your money I'm the thing I'm choosing to go That's fine I'll obviously have to go Without your support That's fine

But And so after all that, right, uh, the lack of any identifiable impact site, he was, he explained away by saying it was just, oh,

the ground was too swampy. Right? It was too soft to preserve a crater. Got right. The swampite my crider. That's right. Tell that to the bloody tax office. Um,

and then so because there was no physical, you know, despite there being no physical evidence, Kulik still called the event, the flimminover, The Flimanovo meteorite. And that's why we all call it that from that day on. Now, after all his expeditions, obviously, you know, in 1941, there were some quite big bombs that were dropped on Japan, some nuclear ones.

That started to trigger some people's minds going, oh, those blasts. And you're looking at the blast radius and everything like that, that's very strong. similar to the kind of blast that there was at Tunguska. So maybe it was a nuclear blast of some sort, right? And so that's kind of started more speculation about what could have happened, right? Because, you know, I mean, that was a, it was a huge area. It was like, you know, like something like 50 kilometers by 70 kilometers was the radius of, like, that's a tremendous amount of force to knock, to knock that many trees over. So big. So people were speculating. And so, one of their

inspirations was a short story by an engineer called Alexander Kazansev and as he brooded over the description of one of the explosions in Japan he realized that it reminded him of the Tunguska event he said a blinding sphere brighter than the sun a fiery column that pierced the clouds a dark mushroom about a cloud above it

the roars of thunder heard for hundreds of kilometer the earthquakes you know what if this had been an an atomic explosion? What if it had been caused by a nuclear-powered alien spacecraft? Oh, yes. I'm so glad you said it. I wasn't sure if I'd spoil it by guessing that, because that's what I've been thinking the whole time. Yeah, well, of course. I mean, you know, we don't know. Like, you know, especially at this time, we don't know how far away, I mean, we probably know how far away the stars are to a certain extent, but we don't know how difficult

traveling through the universe might be. We've estimated, but we've never been able to go out with one of those sticks with a circle on it, where you roll it along. That's right. A click every made up. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. And the only difficult thing is that you've got to pave space in order to have something to roll the stick on.

With good intentions. With good intentions. So this, around this time, now in the 1940s, was when suddenly it became like speculation time, right? Everybody really started. It became much more popular. And so, and then they also opened. up the area to foreigners so that they could, and made it more easier for people to, to, to go

there and visit it and so that they can investigate themselves. They built like a theme park there. You know, yeah, the no crater theme park or whatever like that, the knock down tree. Oh, come lie down like a knockdown tree. Yeah. Have a nap on one of these horizontal trees. So, but then like the first group to go was like a group from Japan who viewed the site, not as evidence of extraterrestrial life, but as a graveyard of their ancestors.

They believe that several millennia ago, a Japanese society discovered the secrets of nuclear power and spaceflight. When they tried to come back to Earth, they crashed at Tunguska. Visiting the site was a way of honoring these lost ancestors and perhaps reuniting them with some way. So straight away, it becomes like just a place for kooky ideas. How many people were on that? Was that like a lot of people?

Was that one guy who's just written a story and forgotten he made it up? It says a group, so I would say more than two, you know? It could be three. I would say maybe a minibus worth. That's a wild tale. Yeah. And I'm all in on it. And knowing that they were Japanese, definitely.

Yeah, absolutely. And I, but I, you know, also I just, I just want to make sure I don't know if the minibus was invented at that stage in 1941. I think you probably just had regular size buses at the time. So I apologize for if that seemed inconsistent. So then this began the, yeah, the speculation wheels a turnin, right? Some physicists proposed that maybe a small black hole collided with our planet and passed through the earth. But like a very small black hole.

Very small. Like a pinprick. Yeah. Well, genuinely, like, there's this unproven, concept called a primordial black hole, which were not, they weren't, the idea is that they weren't created by suns collapsing, but they were created in the very first moments of the Big Bang, and it was just matter was, there was so much energy and matter was packed so tightly together that it created these things that could have been like plank length, which is the smallest

length than anything could be, right? So like, you know, way smaller than, like, you know, an electron or anything like that, right? Like, it's like thinking it's like the pixel size of the universe, right? And the idea that there could be these things that exist, but that fly through the universe. And some, you know, the speculation would be that these could be things that maybe seeded supermassic black holes that exist in the universe now or, you know, but that they could be flying around a high energy and just like pass through Earth. Yeah. And, but, you know, you'd think that there would be an exit wound if it had done that. Unless it's lodged in the core.

Yeah, it might have got lodged in the earth's rib cage. That's right. Yeah. But then it wouldn't that cause us all to? collapse into it. I'm going to get infected. They get infected. That's why you get, uh, you get, uh, bacteria. Yeah, you think so. Moon bacteria, space bacteria. Yeah. Maybe not moon. But that's when maybe like some ancient Japanese people probably worked on a solution.

That's true. And some sort of time travel. And they would have stopped that. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I, I, I'm sorry. I didn't see that in my thing. But I haven't done that much research. Were you about to ask a question? Well, no, yeah, I was just wondering if, so you said tree people are arborists. Yeah. and the northern area. Arboreal. So would a northern tree expert be arboreal arborist? I think so, yeah.

That's one of the most satisfying things to say. Arboreal arborist. Arborist. I'm an arboreal arborist. What do you do? Nice to meet you. I'm an arboreal arborist. I'm Alistairaboreal arborist Trombly Birch.

I mean, I would get rid of the trombly then. Arborial Arboras Birchel. He'd have to. Yeah. You know, you can't. And Birchel, Birch is a type of tree. Oh, my God. Can you be arboreal Arborist.

I'm pretty sure Trombly is a reference to a tree as well. Trombly. Are you a tree man? I mean, I'm a double tree man. It's found, it's from Normandy. I think you should change your name to Arboster. Arborster Tramble Arburtle. That's a fucking good idea.

Yeah. I mean, people are already upset by the spelling of my name. Anyway. And so they should be. So yeah, look, I'll just go through some, AJ, if you need to cut a lot of this, I'm, feel free to, I'm so sorry if this is dragging on. Has this been gone too long already? No.

No, why? I mean, last week we did six hours. Okay, yeah, I know. You're all good. All right, well, I'll just give you. When are we going to get onto the main topic? The main topic, yeah. Well, I'll basically, I will describe exactly what happened or as far as we know at the end.

Is this a mystery topic? Oh, don't tell me. I'm treating it like a mystery topic. No, really? I want a definitive answer by the end. I mean, I want to put my money on something. Early on, I'm thinking, tiny buck hole. Okay.

Yeah. Early on, I'm thinking Japanese people in a minibus. So was the people on the minibus that actually did it. Yeah, yeah. That's their cover story. Yeah. It was actually us. We came back to, every always, a criminal always returns to the scene of the crime.

Yeah, that's right. So roughly 40 years later. And they often keep like little keepsakesakes from their crime. So if you look in their house, you'd probably find a meteor. Or a tiny black hole. Yeah. Or both. Or a minibus.

Yeah. That's right. Swab that for evidence. So another, another theory, of course, was that, you know, Nicola Tesla was working on his wireless transmission device that could also be used as a weapon that would, you know, be able to eliminate armies, full armies. and that somebody was doing some expedition in the Arctic, maybe the first expedition to the Arctic. So he decided to, what he was going to do is just test it out over the Arctic. And I think he sent the guy a message, the explorer, and said,

check out the sky. Just a note. He's going to, what should I check out for? He goes, you'll know it when you see it. Like that. And he was going to create from wherever he was, right? Some light in the sky. and but he missed and he accidentally got it over Siberia and created and it was more powerful

than he thought and it created the thing so that's always the way it's well that's right it's so hard when you're you know when you're testing your first wireless electrical death ray yeah well honestly those who haven't had a death ray go wrong cast the first time cast the first electrical beam. Cast the first iron bird. Now, of course, it could have been antimatter. Some people suggest it was anti-matter because of the nuclear-type blast that, you know, I think when anti-matter and matter touch each other, I think they cancel each other out

and would release a lot of energy. Maybe all of the thing that was once matter would now be energy. It's saying that it doesn't matter anymore. That's right. I had that exactly, and I had that exact line in my bit. It doesn't matter. It matters. It doesn't matter.

I mean, if I could come up with it and you could come up with it, anybody can come up with it. I mean, we're the two worst people in the world. Oh, my God. What show was that from? I love that bit. It was from a very early, it might have been from the or it might have been from, uh, oh, what's this one where I had my success arms. Could have been one of my stand-up shows called Success Arms or the event called The other. I was, I think you, I saw you do it in one of the forum rooms.

Yeah, that's where I remember doing it the most. And you, uh, yeah. That's right. It's not a miracle. It's boring. Yeah, yeah. It's not amazing. Isn't life amazing? No, it's not amazing. It's boring. It's boring. These are some great lines out of context for the listeners. I'll do that bit again one day. I'll do it for a bloody TikTok. It matters. It doesn't matter. It matters. I think I learned primordial soup that day as well. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love soup. I'm a big soup guy, winter, great winter meal. Is this anything, right? Yeah. You're talking about a primordial black hole. Yeah.

Short, a primordial black hole short and down to bowl, black hole bowl. Primordial soup goes in the primordial bowl. That's really good. Do you think this could all mean something? Yeah. But I mean, could we also condense primordial soup into soup? Soup? Yeah.

Soup. So, oh, in the bowl. In the bowl. Soup in the bowl. There you go. Oh, there we go. Does that work? Yeah.

Yeah. Um. Other things. theories were that, you know... I mean, you don't need any other theories, but... Yeah. Got the right one. Okay, but other wacko theories, let's hear some wacko ones.

Yeah, let's hear some wacko ones. We assume it's the soup in the bowl, but... Well, one was... In the 60s were earthbound phenomena, so not coming from space, but coming from the Earth itself. Oh, it's an inside job. Vernor shots. Werner shots, which are named after author... Fernedana.

That's right. Really? Jules Verne. Jules Verne. Are their speculative magma, gas reaction. actions that violently erupt from underground, right? And so instead, the idea would be that, you know, maybe it comes from the, you know, from the, from the Siberian, you know, permafrost or something like that, a big bubble of gas emerges and just combusts. And somehow

that would have created, um, created this blast. That seems kind of feasible to me. Yeah. Yeah. Is that feasible? I mean, it could be, but then, also that would be pretty weird that there would be a center, that area where there would be no trees knocked down or whatever. Oh, yeah. Let me explain that bit, but I feel like nothing explains that bit so far. Yeah, you're right. All of them are blasts. You know, it's almost like I'm purposefully avoiding the true solution so that I can tell

you at the end. Oh, God. God, he's good. Yeah. Then we got, we also got some, ooh, a recent study, and this is, you know, there's so many studies on this stuff. A lot of them are, you know, bullshit. Some people who are like, this.

we think this lake might have been a crater. And then we looked under there, and a lot of the stuff is not more than 100 years old. Like that, like a lot of the silt there is less than 100 years old. Yeah, that could be that. And then other people go and they go, we found some stuff that's older than 100 years old.

And they go, yeah, but then we went back. And we found some stuff that was less than 100 years old. But we saw there was a duck on the surface. And we asked, how old are you? And the duck said, I'm only two. And two years old. Now, that was after the event. Hmm?

So. And then, so then there's another one where people, you know, this is people suggesting that they were using a computer simulation, because there's the possibility that it could be a comet, right? Now, you know the difference between a comet and an asteroid. One's a reindeer? That's right.

That's right. Actually, are both called raindies? No, no, no, asteroid. No, no, asteroid. On Prince or on comfort, on asteroid. Meteor, sorry, a meteorore. A meteoroleonic comet will get in an orbit. rot and keep swelling past or whatever?

Yeah, yeah, asteroid will keep going around. Astroida keep going. A meteor will come into Earth. And comet can also come into Earth. But a comet is made out of like ice and gas and stuff like that. So people thought that maybe that explains why there's no crater, right? Because as it comes in, of course, it starts to heat up and all that stuff would evaporate. And then suddenly you're like, bada bada buma-bobo, no crater like that. But so Halley's comet one day will

possibly land it'll burn up or land somewhere with it well I mean that's a possibility I don't think it will come to it will intersect with pretty unlikely but I think anything goes like Earth might collide with something at some point right it's just depends on how much time passed

I think of us as anchored but yeah yeah like we're moving around the sun and the sun and the whole solar system is moving itself through through space as well there is no fixed point in the universe so don't call me lazy again Okay. I'm not lying in bed. I'm on a big journey. I'm actually moving very fast. I'm moving through space if you don't mind. I'm going like 30,000 kilometres an hour around the sun. Yeah. Isn't that enough?

Yeah. It seems like enough. You want me to do that? And wash my pants. Jesus cross. And do the dishes directly after. Come on. Cooked a meal. 10,000 steps seems pretty pointless. That's right. You've got to do that every fucking day. Especially if you're walking in the wrong direction. That's probably you'd taken away. It's counterintuitive. Come on. Well, these gentlemen here, uh, from the Siberian federal university in Russia.

Yeah. If you're walking the same way that Earth is traveling, it'll feel like you're walking on one of those travel a lot. How powerful does that feel? I feel like a got. Especially if you stare at a distant star at the same time. You're like, whoa, I'm really zooming. And you overtaking other people like, what are you doing out there?

Get on the travelator. And then, but you got, or you're with your kid and your kids always going on on the opposite way to the thing. Come on, you're blocking up traffic. Let's call it a flight. Anyway, they simulated comets, you know, that are mostly made out of ice coming in to Earth,

even simulating ones that were up to like 200 meters wide, traveling at a speed of like 12, you know, like 20 kilometers per second. And the simulation revealed that the friction with the atmosphere heated these objects to such a point that, you know, they would have vaporized just way too early in the thing to be able to... Even if it's huge and going real fast.

And so... Dang. And then other people explain the lack of crater by saying, well, if there's no crater on the ground, it could be that the asteroid didn't actually hit Earth, but just entered Earth's atmosphere over Siberia and then just continued passing westwards. Oh, I did a bit of a skim. Yeah, like a little skim. Like a little rock, you know, off the top like that.

Like that. And just so, so, but, you know, all that pressure still on the atmosphere would have created this kind of like hot air burst, which would have just, you know, ended up with kind of an explosion that flat flattened trees in Siberia leaving behind a plume of dust. But then it's just a drive-by, you know? Just a little drive-by. Yeah, exactly. And then just went on their merry way.

And then they found the asteroid like burnt out in an alleyway. That's right. You go down the road. Yeah, graffiti. But I think one of my favorite ones, the favorite theory, is that in 1964 in March, science writers, Altov and Zura Viova, Vivova, Viova, described... It's an incredible name that one. They described what they think happened is that in 1883, the Krakatoa volcano erupted.

which emitted a large flux of radio waves into space, which then intelligent beings on a planet orbiting 61 Cygne. It's about, I think, something like 3.4 parsecs away from here, if you were wondering, that's one of the stars out in space. Right. It was interpreted. they, they, so intelligent beings on that planet or on a planet orbiting that star, interpreted the radio signals as a message from Earth. They tried to answer us by directing a laser beam at Earth. And unfortunately, the laser was too strong.

It's the, it's your Tesla problem again. And turned. Oh, that communicating with this volcano, a bit of a laser back. Yeah, yeah, turned into, and so, yeah, and it turned matter. Wait, it was too strong. into matter when it hit the atmosphere high over the Tungusk River Basin. So the laser was so powerful. You know, I don't know if you know this, but in a nuclear blast, matter can turn into energy. But I guess they're suggesting that sometimes energy can turn into matter as well,

and, you know, and then cause a big blast like that. And these were two scientists that came up with this. What science writers? Okay. So they were writing about a scientific thing. Yeah. It's a fiction silent there. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's a science. silent science. Science fiction. Yeah. Um, so. Yes, that doesn't, that, I mean, it just feels like that's a hard one to prove. Yeah. I mean, yeah, but you were right, you know, as well thinking like, if somebody's communicating with you with a volcano, you think, use a volcano to communicate back. That's strange. You know, I like the idea of somebody kind of like

using it, like a volcano, like a telegraph thing. Like that, but it's like, like that. And who knows, what did we accidentally say to them? That's right. Was it an offensive volcano? Well, no, yeah, who knows? Imagine that. We volcanoed up some kind of alien slur. Yeah, oh my gosh.

Well, that's why he lays it back. Imagine those aliens came down here and the US Army went and try to take them down. They're like, oh, they're happy to see us. Yeah. They're shooting all these beautiful messages at us. So, I guess we want to know what probably actually happened as far as science. snows to this point. Right.

I mean, I've heard so many great things. First, I thought underneath the ground. Yeah. But now I'm thinking laser. Yeah. Now you're thinking there's definitely laser. Yeah. Volcano and something.

Well, which one of the options will it be? Ooh. Well, that felt like the, you know, when you go, the gas bubble under the, it's like when you're, you're wearing board shorts into a pool. Yeah. And you're, the shorts like take up a bunch of air and they bubble up. And then you're all, maybe it was like that. It's an embarrassing.

Maybe an. A alien went for us, one of those aliens who can swim in the earth. Yeah. You know, we have to swim in water. Some kind of mole, giant mole person. Yeah, mole alien. Yeah. And they...

Siberian mole alien went swimming in the earth with their bodies on. And, yeah, collected a ball of gas. Absolutely. But they were also smoking a dube. That's right. And when the gas that they'd collected in their bodies popped out the top, the joint sparked the explosion. Man, that's worth, you've got to be careful in these tigers.

And they were sort of leaning up on the edge of the earth pool. And in that area, they protected a bunch of trees that didn't fall. That's right. That's where they were resting their chin and their arms. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, on that area. And then, but then they kind of like, I don't know, their fingers fell through. And then they knocked all the branches off of the things.

Yeah. So I think that is as good of, a theory as the alien sending a message. Is it too late to change my guess? It's not too late. It's never too late. Well, let's go with what roughly like NASA's guess and stuff is, right? What they believe is that on this day

in June 30th, 706 a.m., roughly, 1908, a stony meteor about 50 to 60 meters across exploded at an altitude of five to ten kilometers up. Oh, okay. Right?

Over a sparsely populated forest in Siberia, which we now know as Tiger. The resulting shockwave flattened and estimated 80 million trees. Not 800 million. 80 million. Still a lot, I would say. We just save 720 million trees. I mean, that's a great result.

800 million, that would be unforgivable. So over an area of, I've said it in square miles before, but let's say it in kilometers now, 2,150 square kilometers. That's so big. That's a big area. That's a big area. Right. Now, the blast area, people have said that it looked like a giant, the shape was kind of like

a giant butterfly. It was about 70 kilometers wide and 55 kilometers long. and the blast was like something like the equivalent of like 15 megatons, megatons, right? I don't know if you say tons or tons, but I say tons. I say both. Ton up. Ton up.

That sounds big. Yeah. So. None of these numbers are computing with me at all. No, no, no. No, I'm just saying they're so big that I'd, they're almost meaning. They're really big. I should explain.

That's like roughly. How many MCGs? I was genuinely about to go. It's about, I was about 30,000 swimming pools, Olympic swimming pools worth of dynamite. Whoa. Thanks for putting it an attempt.

So it left no impact crater. And now why would something like this, why would a rocky thing explode midair? Right? Because that's kind of what I couldn't understand, right? So, so NASA estimates, that the meteor would have entered Earth's atmosphere

traveling at about 15 kilometers per second. Right? Now, per second. In a school zone. Hey? In a bloody... That's not honest. And it's almost feels safe because you see 40 kilometers.

Even though that's per hour, you kind of, if you're driving at 15 kilometers per second, you go, 40 close, I'm under that. Yeah. Because that's what the thing is sings. I better spade up. Yeah. Put your foot down, right?

So that's roughly Mach 43. Wow. Right? Or, this is a dumb joke that I've attempted, as I think Biden would say it, 43 times the speed of sound, Mac. Right, sorry. See, he refers to people as Mac? I think so. I think he goes, hey, Mac. I think he does say Mac. I love Mac. I love that as a thing as well. Yeah. I've heard that, I'm sure I've seen that in like old American movies or something. Yeah. Maybe a trucker would go, come on, Mac.

Yeah, I think, like, Biden could have been in those old movies. Dave loves or hates this about me. I get old ad jingles in my head forever. Love it. Can I just say, on the record, is loving it. Okay, yeah. It's on the record. And you know the one that this is making me think of.

The classic McKeda, give me my McKedah back, Mac. Give me my Mackeeda back, Mac. Now I've got to ask, what is a Mackeeda? Yeah. Boutool. And it's like, okay. And that song was sung by Joe Biden. Yeah.

Yeah. I can't go over the verse, but it's something like, it's big, it's coarse, it's mine, not yours. Give me my, Mac, Mac the big and course bit doesn't make any sense. But it was something like that. That's a placeholder. I love that. I love that. Mac had stolen one of these tools?

Yeah, I guess. Some kind of Mac, you know, me, give me my Macita back, Mac. I picture a Macintosh, the apple. Oh, right. Yeah, the blue... Yeah, I know you're saying it, but I was thinking... I was thinking that it was a chocolate bar, like a Mikita, Chiquido, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right, now I'm going to get a tiny bit technical here, but... Okay, here we go. So how did one of these things explode? Well, despite moving through the rarefied upper reaches of the atmosphere, where the, you know, where the atmosphere is pretty sparse, sparse, scarce? It's... It's... Sparse sounds right?

Yeah, it's not dense, right? it's going at such a fast speed that the meteor rapidly compresses the air in front of it, right? So then it experiences what's known as RAM pressure. As the air in front of it, compresses it, the temperature starts to rise really quickly in the air in front of it. Right, because it's like you're pushing the air faster than it can move out of the way. So it's just getting really dense and together. Is it like when astronauts ray into the atmosphere? This is exactly what this thing is doing.

It's entering, except not re-entering. It's entering. That's right. This is the first time. That we know of. Yeah. Unless the meteor's going, come on back home, baby. I mean, that's the case.

If it's a bunch of Japanese people on a spaceship, the time-traveling spaceship, then it is re-entering. Love that we could probably combine a few of these series. Hey, everyone could be right here. Yeah. So then the air starts rising in front of this meteor. And it's not due to friction. It's called, it's rather than the, it's, it's,

the adiabatic process, a diabatic process, probably. So the consequence of many molecules and atoms being forced to occupy a smaller space. Ram pressure and the very, yes, hit me, Matt. No? Oh, I thought you were about to say something. All right. No, it's okay. Ram pressure and the very high temperatures.

You're right to think, because I do interrupt. And you should. Inopportune moments all the time. Hey, this is starting to, you're starting to have my thoughts before even I do. Oh, yeah, mate. I'm starting to think, I should say something. Matt should say something. So the ram pressure in the very high temperatures it causes are the reason few meteors make it all the way to the ground.

Most simply burn up or are ablated into tiny fragments. Larger or more solid meteorites may explode instead. Ah. Right? So in essence, the meteorite, the meteor is ripped apart by its own speed, right? This occurs when fine tendrils of superheated air force their way into the cracks and faults of the, the meteor's surface, like the face of it. And once this high-pressure plasma is entering into these gaps, into the meteorore's interior,

it exerts a tremendous force on the body's internal structure. And this occurs because the superheated air now is exerting a force over a much larger area. Sort of like when the wind suddenly fills a sail. You know, you hear it kind of go like that. This sudden rise in the force is exerted on the meteor, overwhelms the body's structure. integrity and then it begins to break up and then the breakup creates more surface area which makes it break up even faster and creates a blast. Right. And then just rock and shit flies everywhere. Yeah. It's kind of like, you know, like, even like when you're clicking your fingers like that, you know, there's that moment beforehand where you're putting the pressure on your thumb like that and then it's that quick release of all the energy at the same time.

So this is not like an explosion in the same way a nuclear blast would be an explosion. This is an explosion and it's like a huge release. of pressure and kinetic energy and heat and all that kind of stuff. And it just goes like that. And it would go in all directions like that. But and then, but the things right below it, this is the thing that we were mentioning about how it's the force is traveling down, but it's traveling so fast straight down that it's breaking all the branches off. Oh, yeah.

Stripping them off. Yeah, stripping them off before. And because it's going directly down, sort of. parallel with the tree trunks, the way that they're standing straight up, right? It's going vertically down like that. Right. It's not knocking those trees over. So it's all the ones that are kind of hit at a blast angle.

Right. As it keeps going. Yeah, as it keeps going outwards like that. Is there any way we can use this knowledge for good? For good, for, you know, for just maybe to create products that can be sold. Yeah, like to get food into people's mouths and stuff like that. Oh, I was thinking more like, you know. more contraptions.

Yeah, I mean, I suppose the technology of just getting a rock really high in the air. Yeah. You know, and then dropping it. Maybe McKeda could work on this. I think Makita could do this. It could be a good McKeda lawnmower or something. Absolutely. And then you just kind of lift it up and then I guess you just drop it.

Yeah. And then you could probably do that. I think we have basically most of the technology available to do that kind of thing. I think that could be really helpful. I mean, we could all, if you could use it to feed people as well, that could be good. I don't know if feed people rocks. Yeah. feed people blast waves.

So, yeah, this, so like a lot of that blast would have been, like, moving at hypersonic velocity, as we know, you know, because hypersonic is faster than sonic. Whoa. The hedgehog. He travels at the speed of sound, I guess. That's why he's called that, I think. That's why. Did you know one of there's characters in that, he's a hedgehog, but there's also one that's

an echidna? I didn't know that. They're not very fast-moving creatures. No. No. They're real slow. But I guess hedgehogs aren't either, probably. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, I guess you're right. No, you're right. Although they probably can scuttle a little bit more. I picked one up once. Really? No, that's not true. I'm going to keep you in her a hedgehog. Well, the first time was in England or out at the pub walking home.

And the local I was there with goes, look at this. And he picked up this hedgehog. And he was real freaking cute. It would be so cute. It was so cute. Wow. And you thought about that nature. You're walking home.

Yeah, just walking home. on the side of the road. Scurring around. A little English village. It's tremendous. So good. Yeah. Wouldn't do that doing an echidna.

No, no, no. Too much respect for him. But you know, Andy's grandfather used to catch echidna's. Andy Matthews? Andy, yeah, for his grandfather worked for the CSR. His grandfather worked for the CSR-O, but he was a soil scientist. But his friend was an echidna, studied echidnius. And he said, hey, if ever you come across an echidna, just tap it on the side like that

with your foot, just tap it on the side like that. He'll put his foot out because he feels like he's about to lose balance. and then you grab his foot and you put him in a bloody bag. Don't release that information publicly. All right, AJ, cut that out. It's like cow tipping, but a kidney tipping. Yeah, kid and the cap poaching. They're like, oh, I'm about to fall.

Chuck it in the bag. When you say, Andy, you mean your co-hosts on two in the think tank? Two in the think tank. We haven't mentioned that today. No, I'm so sorry. Your podcast, what is it? You've been going for a long time. Yeah, we've been going for since 20, 20.

We hit 10 years. We hit 10 years just in June, I think. Congratulations. Thank you very much. we're about we're going to do well we will have now done the 400th episode live stream about two days or three days before this is released and and people will be able to uh watch that on people will be on stupid old channel so you go there and see us probably talk for what will be maybe 24 hours maybe hopefully not longer than that man will me and davy on like i would love for you

two to be on if you could do that but but now obviously i'm talking to you guys after the date has happened yeah unfortunately so it's actually too like if only had some kind of japanese spaceship Then I could go back. Okay. And I think I'll probably do that and then come back and see you guys. Really, finally, I just want to, like, say, like, some of this, the evidence of why they believe this is also been kind of not necessarily confirmed, but they, there was another event in 2013 above the first ever episode of two in the think tank. It was, it coincided with it. There was a big blast again over Russia.

possibly due to a wireless sketch idea. He didn't have a powerful. Yeah, from Tuna Think Tank. A much smaller meteorite came in over Chelyabinsk in Russia, but the largest since Tengaska. There's heaps of dash cam footage of this from 2013, but like lots of people see this huge, bright thing in the sky, follow huge trail, and then around 9 a.m. and then not long after, huge shockwave, and like windows breaking and stuff like that for like, you know,

like 1,500 people were injured. Yeah. So this is like this, which basically happens in the same way that they think that this Tungaska thing occurred. Right. They're like, okay, this clearly happens in this region of the world. Mm. But it could also be that maybe Tesla's back, baby.

It could also be that. So we don't know. Because, I mean, you think if he was so good at wireless, you know, stuff, then maybe he would have been able to find a way for him to work without wires, you know. Do you even in the cloud? Vines. He could be in the cloud. Whoa. And once every hundred years, he's releasing his death ray.

Well, how long ago was that Icelandic volcano eruption? That's true. Maybe the aliens saw that. We're like, all right. Oh, yeah. Fine. Fire up the laser. Yeah.

They've done it again. Yeah. That could have been it as well. Oh, they finally got back to us. They've been sitting by the phone the whole time. Yeah. I mean, you know, you never know. There could be, you know, who's sending the meteorites?

Who's sending the meteors? Yeah. Where are they coming from? Yeah. Off you guy like that and just into the, you know, because I mean, if you wanted to do it and if you wanted to sort of damage Earth in a undetectable way, you'd just send something that looks like a rock. Yeah.

Space rock. Yeah. Exactly. That's clever. A stony, you called it before. A stony. A stony. A stony?

Didn't you? I was saying it was a stony object. Okay. Yeah. I just, I'm like, hmm, the technical term I haven't heard before. Estony. Stony. But the, speaking of stones, this is the correct theory from NASA and it shattered, basically. Exploded, lots of rock went everywhere. That does sort of go with a lot of the anecdotes of like, the sky was raining rock. Yeah, yeah. And, but a lot of the rock as well would have itself, like,

been dispersed. And so it would have just been like, like, you know, probably broken up into tiny little things, little particles and things like that. And so then it was the blast and then the fires that started, the knocking down of endless trees, the kind of things like that, that would have made a lot of thumping sounds as well. But yeah, and a lot of things getting, yeah. I assume, I don't know how much, but they've still never found any kind of actual rock. I think I saw something where they found maybe some particles in trees that were like, oh, this has got an unusually high amount of this material, which you normally only find

in meteorites and things like that, you know, some metal. like, you know, lithium or something. Right, but no, like, like bowling ball sized. Nothing yet, bit, nothing yet. But it was just too swampy, you know, the swamp swallows. Yeah. So, you know, but, you know, this is just NASA's opinion, though. Oh, okay.

So, you know, I mean, they haven't said that. I'm saying that. But, but, have never been right before? What do they know? I've seen a lot of mistakes that they've made in the past, going to the moon. Yeah. A big mistake. Yeah. You know, hiring Elon Musk to do all their launches from now on.

So, yeah, I don't know. But what do you think? Mention, tell us, let us know in the comments. I'd love to know if people have theories. I honestly would. But when you described it at the start, it did make me go, holy shit, how is this not the most significant event to ever happen to mankind? It is so unbelievable.

It is a pretty strange one. And they say that it's something that size. is on average, probably going to hit Earth about every 300 years. Oh, yeah, we're in the clear. Yeah. This is about 100 years ago. So, and just pure luck that it was on a relatively unpopulated area. Yeah, I would say that that was luck.

Yeah. I mean, some people, you know. Yeah, is that luck? Because I did say before, now thinking about it, I did say, well, there's evidence that these things happen in this area. But like, yeah, what are the chances that it's Russia or, I know, it's the largest country in Earth? But like this part of Russia gets hit by meteors, like, why, how does that happen twice in a hundred years in the same place?

Yeah, it is odd. I don't know. But it could also be like, you know, you hear people talk about like, why do we have meteors hit us? It's like because we will, well, there are still like asteroid belts out there. And there are certain times in our orbit where maybe we will go past one and our gravity will dislodge one, you know, like disloge one from the gravity belt. And then it will start moving and maybe pick up the weakest one from the hood. Exactly. But it's like the weakest one then comes and attacks us. Yeah. Oh, great.

You know, like a bad lion. Yeah. You all get the little weak baby like that. Oh, shit. And then you get your ass kicked by the baby. Pride of lions comes before the fall. Yeah. And then you go, well, luckily, it just hurt me on one of my four fingers I didn't need.

Because we're horses. Yeah, we're horses. We're horses. Or lion horses. Yes. I mean, I just think this has got nothing to do with this, but imagine that a carnivorous predator horse. Oh, my God. That'd be unstoppable.

Yeah. Thank God. They're not carnivorous. That's right. I mean, there could have been some and we just, we wiped them out. Yeah. A lot of the time we just see that. You know, like.

Lession to come at us. Tigers are a bit like that, but they're, you know, I guess you could ride one. It would be like a horse. Yeah. What do you think is a horse? Something you can ride. Something you can ride. So the only thing this explanation doesn't explain to me.

Yeah. Tell me this, NASA. How did the mountains move? Well, some of the reports, you know, are coming from people and they're coming from people after, you know, 20 years and things like that. And so perhaps the landscape could have shifted. You know, trees were falling. I suppose a tree could knock down at least a mound.

Yeah. And it could also just like, but there was a mound there before. And they all came too, right? So they were all basically knocked out by the blast. Maybe they fell at a slightly different orientation to what they thought. And the whole landscape's changed. Maybe it looks like the mountains have shifted. Yeah.

And also there was seismic activity. Like they did see stuff. in the ground. Like, you know, a shockwave did go through the ground. I don't know what it takes to move a lot of earth. I don't know what it takes to move a full mountain, probably too much. Yeah. But, you know, it also depends on what's their definition of a mountain. You know, and, you know, when you're speaking to people who's, you know, culture and language is different to yours, uh, interpreting words, you know, it could have been, it was a hillock, you know, it was a, is a hillock a small hill?

Could have been it. Yeah. Yeah. A hill. A hill. A hill. A hill. A hill. A hill. A hill. A hill. A hill. A hill. A A hellini, you know, a little, little, hillito. You know, I'm just saying, you know, translations, we don't know. And also, I'm reading these things second and third hand from people who've taken it from. It was very hard to find the actual, like, documented, exact, you know, eyewitness reports. Yeah, it feels like the kind of thing that maybe is possibly exaggerated over time, for decades. It's true. Have you heard of generations?

I was, I think it was in a Bill Bryson book I was listening to. Yeah. He told this story about there was a meteor and this guy was like trying to figure out where is the crater? Could not figure it out. And then eventually they realized when they basically just had a look from a much bigger vantage point, the whole area was the the crater. Yeah. It was so big that they were inside the crater looking for a crater. Oh my God, Earth was the crater. Yeah. So is it possible that all of Siberia is now a crater? It could be. It could be. It managed to keep some of the trees up outside of that range there, but in the crater. I mean, it's quite possible. I mean, I think it wasn't until like, you know, 50, 60 years ago that they found the Chicksilab crater, the one that, you know, they think took out the dinosaurs from that impact crater from like that's in the ocean and things like that. Like there's, it's hard to find, but, you know, the reason why they don't think that there's a crater is because in order to, you know, craters also create a big splash out, you know. And so then you should be able to find like soil or rocks or, you know, like if it's a, if it lands in an ocean, you can find seashells and stuff like that that blast out into areas. I think, you know, that's what happened with the Chixelab one. They found like ocean creatures out somewhere in inland America, you know, hundreds of kilometers away.

And that's why they, they were like, oh, well, this could be from that day. A wild ride. A bit of a rough way to describe people from Florida. Sea creatures? Or seashells? Yeah, that's good. That's fine. A lot of them are wrinkly and old.

They don't like a seashell. I've got one final question. Yeah? Possibly stupid one that you may have already answered. I dismissed. Why is it called the Tunguska event? It was near the Tunguska River. God.

Yeah. He's gotten asked for everything. He's answering them all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tunguska was just an area thing. A lot of the time, you know, it'd be cool if you could name events like that. Like this is like the Michael cool guy. Yeah, I thought it might be like, you know, some, like one of the scientists came along and like, I'm Johnny Tunguska. Yeah.

And this and welcome to my oven. Welcome to Jack. I'm going to get hit. This is, this is asteroid strike to my balls. Yeah. Oh. Bowneo, neo. What?

That, um, we didn't, do we hear what happened to Coolidge? Or Coolidge? Who's Coolidge? Oh, the scientist? The guy that, I stole chocolate, but hid chocolates from everyone. His name might not have been Coolick. Oh, Kulik. Sorry, how would you have possibly known who I was talking about?

I'm sorry. Um, well. So he didn't end up. I mean, he went down in history. Yes. Yeah, that was it. They locked him up in the sanatorium for a while because he stole chocolates. He went down.

didn't go up in history. No, he didn't go up in history. Like a winner. If you give me one second. But hopefully he's looking down on us now, knowing the truth. Yeah. He's hanging out in the flying Japanese minibus. God.

Just so that, you know, he served in the Russian military during the Russo-Japanese War. Oh. He didn't agree with that. But that was before. That was in 904, 1904, 1905. So that was beforehand. Then he did, then he served with the Russian military during World War I. and then he became an instructor teaching mineralogy, but then in World War II he again fought

for his country, this time in a paramilitary militia, and he was captured by the German army and he died in a prisoner of war camp of typhus. So that's fun. And that a wild sub-story about him. It's like, oh, by the way, he was also fought in multiple wars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I think it has a, you know, it has a big impact when you study a big impact. Like that, you know, and you, especially if you're the first person to sort of, you know, actually write it down that you did it.

And then you also make a big deal about yourself in the media and things like that. Yeah, yeah. It's how you get yourself inscribed into history. And also, he looked pretty cool. He had cool round glasses. Here you go. There he is. Oh, my God.

That guy, he looks Russian. I'll tell him that. I'll tell you that. Yeah. If that's, I reckon, if you got AI to draw a Russian man from the olden days, that's him. Yeah, absolutely. The AI would find it very difficult to avoid that. Yeah.

Yeah. That's the test, actually. Yeah. To find out of their computer or not. And he also had a crater on the moon named after him. Coolick. Is that ironic? How ironic.

No, it's not ironic. Isn't it ironic? That's ironic. Alana's Morissette's all ironic. No, but he couldn't find a crater down here. So we'll name a crater up there. They finally got his crater. Thanks so much for coming here again for Block Al.

It's been an absolute pleasure. So people can find it. find your show, well, I mean, there's what, 300, 400 episodes. Do you think because I mentioned a crater at the end, this is technically an Orifice episode? I think it is. I think it is. He couldn't resist. What are we going to call it?

Not a hater for the crater. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, must get that tangasca. Dave, your turn. Turn into a porn type. That's how you do your best work. Tunguska.

How would you make the Tunguska porn parody? Like Tunging Gasker's. Yeah. Tunging Gus's car or something. Calm. Yeah, there you go. Tunging Gus's, Gusses, Garm. Okay, there we go.

Is that good? Event. Is that something? This is event cinema. This is event pornography. Al, so we'll, yeah, people can find you. Two in the Think Tank. They can find me two in the think tank.

can listen to Shusher Guided Meditations if they want. And there was a recent episode put up a month ago, and I was going to try to continue. And just, I'll mention it here, but it may not exist by the time this comes out. But I am constantly considering starting the ATB, P-O-D-C-A-S-T, right? The ATB podcast, right? And which will be... I had to spell it out of my head. I know.

Okay, yep. Right? And which will be a collection of shows that will live under that one umbrella. You know, I think one of the... could be the willy-nilly silly-billy-cimmily, right? Which is where I interview people, but every 15 minutes, we have to do a minute where we're doing silly voices in character, and then we go back to the regularity. And then we go back to their childhood trauma. Then we go back to their childhood trauma.

It's a childhood trauma interview show with silly voices. That sounds like fun. And, you know, there'll be other shows in there. Possibly I love those narrow themes podcast. Right? And it's a, it's a show, it's a themed podcast about narrow themed podcasts. Oh, great. You know? Could you do an episode about primates? Primates could be the first episode.

Great. Yeah, I think it feels like that would be the best thing. Could I interview you for it? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, great. You should also bring back your podcast about the joke that everyone tweets all the time. Oh, yeah. I did do one episode of this.

So, I think I'll bring it back. It's the, a group of white guys is called a podcast podcast podcast. And it's all about that joke and that concept and what it means to be white and doing podcasts. I think it's all, it's curious as to whether or not how many of the people who tweet it think they've come up with it. Yeah, that is really interesting. And if they actually have, because it's like, you know, it's a joke that a lot of people could come up with for sure.

Absolutely. But it's also, it feels like not that many people who tweet it that often. Yeah. But it would be great to do, you know, little episodes about different people. who've tweeted it and maybe asking them if they think that they've come up with it themselves or whether they saw it. Yeah, is that one of yours? Yeah. Because we do have evidence of 3,000 people tweeting it before you, but yeah. So that kind of stuff. You know, there'll be all sorts of kind of episodes. I might even do an episode, a podcast on there called The Collectibles, which is a

game that Otis and I, my kid, play when we walk to school, which is, I think basically an idea that Otis has come up with, which is basically Pokemon, but we've come up with the with the characters themselves. You got to collect them all. You got to collect them, and they're called collectibles. And I've come up with one. One's called the grumbling grump, and he evolves into the,

into the grumpy grouch. I mean, incredible. It sounds like it could be a multi-billion dollar franchise. Or at least a chill. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I think it's a darker, I'm trying to push it into a dark, into a darker, grumblier, grumblyer.

Grumblyer. Grumblier. Um, uh, Pokemon. Great. So we've got to look at, look at out for that possibly. The ATB, P-O-D-C-A-S-T. As we say goodbye to the great man, Alistair, Tromblay-Bertchil. We say hello to everyone's favorite section of the show, uh, where we get to

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or really whatever they like. And I read four of them out each week. The first one this week comes from Danielle and Adam Osborne, and they also get to give themselves a title. Danielle and Adam have the title, the Aquabult and the Undead Raven. Beautiful names for the Black Hawk Girls. And the Aquabolt and the Ad, Undead Raven. Have a brag writing.

Hi guys. We have been enjoying the pod for many years and love meeting Matt and Dave plus the extended Dugan family in Bristol last year. What a great place. You guys are also lovely. We love you too, Jess. Well, I like that you put that in brackets because she can't hear it. Although I'm sure she's listening right now. Shout out to you, Jess. Hopefully you are alive and well. She's just away. She's away. She's away. That's all. Yeah, that's right. We mentioned that on the episode yet? She's away doing fun thing. she's doing the farewell tour for Hobber and Hing.

That's right. Away saying goodbye to the triple J listeners because the show that she appeared on for a few years there. Hobber and Hing has finished up and also their podcast. Simply the Jess. I nearly thought my mind went to

Who knew it with Jess Bookings? I was like, that's not right. That's right. I was something to do with their name. You're simply the jest. A great show. And yeah, they're doing a bit of a farewell tour that she's a part of.

But Aquabult and Undid Raven going to say, Over the past three and a half years, we've been creating playtesting and illustrating our first board game, and we're about to run a Kickstarter campaign starting on the 1st of September, 2023. Well, that's already started. Did I say this is a brag? So this is... Love a brag. Love a board game. Yeah.

Tell me more. Our game is called Meteor Heroes. How appropriate is that for this episode? Oh my gosh. Isn't that incredible? And we always ask a question to introduce the topic of the game. Does this sound familiar? The question is, what word do you think of when describing a hero?

Oh, what do you think, Dave? Heroic. Oh, yeah, that's good. Honestly. Yeah, stoic. Is that anything? Stoic, I think maybe brave, brave. Brave, yeah.

But heroic and stoic is good. They say our answer is always famed because the heroes in our game are only interested in one thing, becoming the most famous hero in Justice City. in the game you can collect pals creating your unique superhero identity our favorites are in our title oh the aquibault and the undead raven you hop around the city resolving petty crimes and events to become famous around just the city but beware of crisis turning up as if you can't solve them your fame will be taken away it is a competitive game using area control strategy and push your luck elements at its core if you want to find out more about the game search

Heroes on Kickstarter. There's the link, kickstarter.com, and it's Never Yellow Games slash Meteor-Dash Heroes. But yeah, I think if you just search Meteor Heroes.

But isn't that incredible? These just come up when they come up and out in order of when people suggest them and I try and keep the submissions like make it fair

so if people haven't had one read out for a while. I'm on their Kickstarter. I found it. Great artwork. This game looks really fun, and I've got some good news. The goal has already been met. Oh, well done. Congratulations. They're about double their goal.

When is it? They've got a little banner here saying 100% funded in less than an hour. Wow. Congratulations. When is the deadline? Because this episode probably maybe comes out. Unfortunately, it's only got eight days to go at time of recording. So it's finishing up at the, what, 22nd, 23rd of September.

Well, I mean, the fact that it's reached the goal, I can I assume it's getting made. So, yeah, maybe with your next fact, quote or question, Danielle and Adam, you can let us know where people can get hold of the game. Yeah, that's right. That's so exciting. Congratulations. I'm going to kick in after we stop recording now as well, I reckon, because I'm just one of the good cause. I'm just looking for points in the game.

Do you think that will get me points? Absolutely. I think it should give you, you know, starting points every time you play if you kick starter. If you kick in are the Kickstarter. I think that's only fair. Yeah. Thank you very much, Danielle and Adam.

Just Daniel and Adam. Just want to note that Dave did not say he was kicking in. The next one comes from Lauren. I'm not kicking in. I'm starting it. Kickstarting. Lauren, aka professional cat patter and annoyerer, has a joke writing.

Before I get to the joke, I just want to say you guys are the best. Oh my God. Lauren, please, stop it. Stop it. No, you are. Oh, my God. That was very nice.

Lauren goes on to say, this podcast keeps me going through my 12-hour night shifts doing coal testing. Coal? How are we selling coal? C-O-A-L. What other coal would it be? I don't know. Still, but do you know what coal testing is? Yeah, I'm guessing it's sort of just get a lump of coal.

Yeah, yeah. What are we testing for? Is it real? Yep, it tastes like coal. Oh, no, this is fake coal. Put it in the fake coal bin. My co-workers are always wondering what I'm cackling about when listening to you. Oh, that's so fun.

Now for the joke. It's short and sweet. Ready, Dave? Okay, ready. Hit me. Hit me the laughs. I walk past someone the other day with 12 boobs. Sounds funny.

Dozen tit. And then Lauren says, get it. Get it? Dozen tit. Now, is tit, uh, capitalized, embolded on your screen? It isn't. And I don't think it needs to be because there's a subtle joke that subtle people would get. Doesn't tit. Doesn't tit. Because there's 12. 12. Yeah. Boops. Great. That's good stuff. I'm not 100% sure you get it, Dave. That is 100% A joke.

Lauren, thank you so much. Please get back in touch and let us know what your job is. Coal tester. And what does coal taste like? It's like a skill tester. I'm picturing little lumps of Cole and you've got to get the claw down, pick it up. Yeah. The next one comes from Jason Wessner. Okay, CEO of Wait a Minute. Is this thing on? How do you work this stupid thing?

Hello, hello? And Jason has a quote. Writing, this is a bit of a fact and a quote all in one from Neil deGrasse Tyson. Quote, just an FYI. If you removed all veins arteries and capillaries from your body and laid them end to end, you would die. What a devil. That's good stuff.

He is a devilish wit. Neil degrass, Tyson. I can't hear his name without thinking of Degrassi Jr. High. Even the way you say it makes me think, I think of DeGrassey from the way you, I don't know. Is it pronounced differently? No, like, is there something in like your,

I don't know, presentation of the words, I can understand, I can hear in your mind you thinking about DeGrassey. I don't know how, but I can. Yeah, maybe that's got to be a fake answer on who knew it at some point that I can use. Neil DeGrassey Jr. High, Tyson. All right. Thank you so much for that, Jason Westner. And finally, from Amy Clark, aka Brigadier General Forgettable Name with the fact Amy writes, Did you know that three-toed sloths have extra neck vertebrae that allow them to turn their heads 270 degrees?

Can you imagine being a Spanish conquistador? I didn't quite know that. Spanish conquistador, slowly making your way through the rainforest by torchlight, hearing a rustling in the trees above you when you illuminate the source of the sound. It's one of these creatures which then turns its head completely around with a smile on its face. I know they're incredibly cute and people are not generally afraid of them these days, but I imagine these early sightings by foreigners, especially at night, as in my imagined scenario, may have spawned some legends about demons and other evil spirits in the rainforest.

Cheers. Fully. They don't like anything that can turn its head all the way around smiling. Yeah. That's scary than someone turning around frowning, for instance. Yeah, you're thinking, what are they got planned? You a picture of them also saying, Hello.

Something like that. Great fact, Amy Clark. Appreciate that very much. And thanks so much to Jason Lauren. Danielle and Adam as well. What a fantastic little series of facts, quotes, and questions. And like I say, if you want to get involved in those, go to the Sydney Shineburg level or above. The next thing we like to do is shout out to a few of our other fantastic supporters.

Jess normally comes with a bit of a game. Dave, do you think you could come up with that one this week? Oh, okay, Tunguska event. Yeah. Maybe they can, maybe their wild theory on what did it. On what caused? What caused the Tunguska. Okay, the question is, do they know what's causing it?

Do they know what's causing it? And where you have the answer. Now, do you want, I reckon last week, I think it was? No, a few weeks ago, whenever it was, where Jess was away, one of us read out the names, the other one. Do you want to do all like that again? Okay, great. Which one do you want to do?

I think you ran them out last time. I did the nicknames last time. But it was a much easy job because I was just reading them as well. Oh, that's right. I'm thinking you've another episode. Okay, back to me then. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you read it around.

Here we go. Because I like this about you. We know from the Triptitch Club section that you think quick on your feet. My mind is a steel trap. Yeah. All right. So if I can thank for their great support from, how's this place? King City in Ontario in Canada.

Adam with cats. Wow, Tuesday the King. What about it? It was just, it was someone's 21st birthday. someone thought it would be funny to ring some fireworks. Yeah. But obviously this is 100 plus years ago. They weren't that sure about the ratio.

One thing led to another. They had a few drinks. They, it just got out of hand. Yeah. There's one really, really, really big firework. And when the parents were coming home, they quickly try to put things together. They started putting trees upright again in the middle, but they ran out of time. Yeah, that's right.

So there's that one section of trees that are up right. That was them cleaning up. Yeah. They thought they'd get to all 800 square. Miles, but they didn't quite do it. Didn't quite do it. Thank you so much. Adam with cats, a fantastic name.

I'd also love to thank from Pueblo West in Colorado in the United States, Danny Loro. Danny Loro. Danny Lerro was a part of this and it was all just a prank. That's a massive hoax. You've probably heard about cow tipping. I don't know if that's actually even a real thing. Cross circles. Push over.

Put in both together. Pushing a cow over. They just started pushing trees over. Yeah, tree tipping. Tree tipping, that's what this was. Which is also what, yeah, that's what crop circles are as well, right? They're just, um, crop tipping. Yeah, that's, but, um.

You just, everything becomes through the lens of cow tipping. So you're like, what, do you want a cup of tea? Oh, you mean, tea tipping. Anything you push over. Everything, anything you push over. You're putting the tea bag into the mug. Can you do a cow tip us a glass of water? Yeah.

From that joke? Just water tip, uh. Water tip it in to that glass. So yeah, a prank. completely out of hand. Yeah. Tree tipping. Tree tipping.

Danny Lora, you are diabolical. Thank you so much. I'd also love to thank from Derby in Great Britain. It's Jonah Luckett. Jonah Luckett. I think that Jonah Luckett was directing a student film. And obviously, Jonah Luckett doesn't do anything by halves. No.

They wanted aliens. They wanted to look good. So they had to flatten 800 square miles of wood. Fortunately, don't worry, they got a permit. It's all above board. Yeah. Permit got lost. Unfortunately.

And also then the council, like, there was a bit of a cover up. They said, if you don't tell anyone, we don't tell anyone. It's okay. And then Jonah said, actually, you know what? I'm going to move on. I'm going to make a different movie anyway. It's all good. Something I forgot to ask, Al, I'd love to know if there's a photo from above.

Would that have been possible at the time? I'd love to see, you know, like now that you'd put a drone up and get a great photo of it. But at the time. At the time, would that have been possible? I guess the plane could have flown over in the decades after, maybe. The decades after, yeah, but it's also very... Because it was, what is it, 20-something years later that it still looked pretty similar. Yeah, from then they could have.

I wonder if there's any photos even now. Yeah, really interested. But we'll never know, because Al's left the building. Yeah, Al's gone. How about we thank from Kenmore here in Australia in Queensland, it's Paula Arrayou. Oreao? Paula Arayu. You happy with Arayo there?

Ario. Ario or Rayjo? I'm not sure. I assume it would be a y at the end. But Paula is a big... This is actually... You know, they talk about like the IPL or the Indian Premier League, the 2020 thing. That was obviously a big breakaway.

Like, they made their own league or whatever over there. And now there's the Caribbean League. Yeah. Big Bash in Australia. There's a big bash. There's a packet. The 100 in England. They've got that.

the Pakistani one. They've all got their own 2020 leagues and everyone's like, wow, they've modernised the sport. But did you know that they're actually trying to set up Russian 2020? And what they were doing was creating a series of ovals to play the game. But unfortunately, the backer, which was probably Kerry Packer, pulled the money out, and they were just left

with half-built ovals. Right. And that's what all the flattened trees were. Okay. They did the first bit of building an oval, exploding the trees. Yeah, exactly. They started clearing the land, but then there were a few industrial disputes, and then it's lost to history, and then I think that 2020 is actually a new game. It's not at all. No.

And Paula was there at the start. Paula, so sorry that Carrie Pack of the backup pulled out. I'd also love to thank from Sacramento. We've had King City. We've had Queensland, and now we've got the Sacramento Kings home of Sacramento, Sacramento, California in the U.S. It's Isabel McTeer. Isabel McTier.

Okay. Isabel McTeer. I think what she did was, she had this plan for above-ground pools in Siberia to house blue whales. So that'd be really big above-ground pools. Massive. And they had them there for a little while, but it turns out it was not the ideal climate.

They froze solid. Yeah. They did it in summer and they thought, this is great. Yeah. They're loving it. But, yeah, so I ended up having to, by the next summer, it all melted and they had the blubber and everything, they had to get rid of all that. So they exploded the evidence.

Oh, they exploded the well, aren't I? And then, you know, just the huge round, what looked like blast stones were just, you know, have you ever seen, like as a kid, I remember a friend had an above ground pool. When they got rid of it, the grass underneath was all dead. Ah. Just think of a bigger version of that. A big above grandpool, a really big one. Big enough for Blue Whale.

Yeah. A pot of Blue Whales. Still have the little ladder that you lower in. Yeah, yeah. Only that ladder's big. Yeah, it's like 50 meters. Yeah. So to a whale, it's little, but it's actually quite big.

Yeah. Thank you so much, Isabel. From San Antonio in Texas in the US, I'd love to thank Larissa O'Neill. Larissa O'Neill is an alien to a guide. Oh, okay. She was there, sort of guiding them in. Come on over, Siberia is in middle of nowhere. No one's going to see this.

Oh dear, a few people have seen it. You better go. Yeah. You've got to go. Mum's home. Mum's home. Mom's home. You've got to go.

So an alien's 21st. Yeah, yeah. Are we? One of old big 21st themed. We're already repeating ideas. Hey, but this one's with aliens. Yeah. They're back now in alien form.

Larissa O'Neill. And also, tour guide. Yeah. Come on, there's a brand new spin on this. Yeah. Come on. I mean, I know I was the one casting aspersions, but I'm also saying, back off Dave. He's brought a new flavor to this.

Let me go. Let him go. Let him work. Thank you so much, Larissa. I'd also love to thank from Columbus in Ohio, God's country itself in the United States. Is it the freak? Ian Harvey? Remember the freak?

That's the nickname of Ian Harvey. Yeah, the Victorian, Cricketer? Great, great Yorker bowler at the death in one days? Let me, I, it's, all rounder. I can't think of what he looks like, but yeah, definitely. Ian Harvey. Oh, there he is. Coming up. Ninety-seven two.

Yeah. Yeah. 73, one-day internationals. Nicknames. Havs and Freak. That's great. So, yeah, what, does the same? Freak give you anything? Or Harves? Hars?

He was nicknamed Havs because he was always trying to split things. He's like, oh, I want to they're at a restaurant. I feel like chips, but I don't feel like a whole thing of chips. I want to go halves, and that's how I got the nickname. Ah, right, great. Every nickname's got a story, and that's Ian Havvy.

Even Ian Havs, Harvey's nickname. The freak. Apologies if it's I and Harvey. Oh my God, imagine their whole life they're being compared to the freak Ian Harvey. Yeah. I'm like, I'm not Ian Harvey. I'm Ian Harvey. I'm from the school of Iron's earrings.

I can't believe that I've already done my cricket explanation before we got to Ian Harvey. What other possible explanation could there be for the Tunguska event? Oh, well, what I was thinking was, they tried to get, oh my God, I was about to say a water park, but my other one was pools. It is harder than it looks. What about a 21st? What about a 21st at a water park? Oh, he's done it. So this one, yeah, this one's going to blow your mind

because Ian Harvey, his theory, is that a planet, an unknown planet, which was weird planet is invisible. Oh, yeah. But it's a big heavy, you know, globe, a big beautiful globe. And it crashed landed into the earth at pretty slow pace. But no one could see it. And on that planet, the aliens were having a 21st birthday. So there were sparks and all that.

But that was just frivolities for them. And they were, you know, the guy who was driving the planet that night had a couple too many alien beverages. Oh, no. Which is what they called booze. A-Bs. Yeah, A-Bs. Where's your ABV? And, yeah, so they stacked in there.

But it couldn't be saying. They backed out again, leaving us with the men. to clean up. Us being humanity. Yeah, planet Earth. Yeah. On your Ian, Havs, Havvy. How about, thank you so much, Ian.

So, how about from Hazelbrook in New South Wales, Australia? Jay. It's Jay and Jay farted. Jay did a really... Who farted? Remember that famous question? It was Jay. Hoofarted?

Jay, Jay did a really... That was the name of a race horse. Yeah, that's so good. Hoof. Hoof hearted. Hearted. That's good stuff. Whofarted.

Who says... Who says... I mean, people say horse racing is not the sport of kings. I mean, who says that? An idiot. That argument was put to bed the day that Hoofhearted was born. No, not whofarted. Hoofarted.

Who's hearted, please. But Jay did fart. Yes. In Siberia. Jay, if Jay doesn't... Oh, no, Jay will know who they are. There's not many Jays from Hazel Brook in New South Wales, I would think. That did a big fart.

Yeah. Thank you so much, Jay. And finally, from Montclair in New Jersey in the United States, it's Chuck Appleseed. Chuck Appleseed. Gosh, I hope that's your real name. This is Ripper. That's a Ripper Dipper.

Chuck Apple Seed. Any thoughts? Try to get a veggie patch going. Really, really big veggie patch. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, Chuck Appleseed is a nondiplum, or have you say that. His real name is actually Jack and the best.

beanstalk. This is the site of Jack and the Beanstalk. Yeah. A big beanstalk. That makes sense. Yeah. And the beanstalk took all the nutrients out of the ground, meaning all the other plants, you know, like Siberian furs, Siberian pines.

Siberian mint, Siberian cump trees. They all went. And since then, the beanstalk has been felled. Beinfeld. It's been felled. But Chuck made off with the golden goose, so he's happy. So, you know. Thank you so much, Chuck, Jay, Ian, Larissa, Isabel, Paula, Jonah, Danny and Adam.

Your support means so much to us. And we thank you for being you. The last thing we need to do is welcome a few people in the Trip Ditch Club. Now, Dave, you explain this better than anyone. What is the Triptitch Club? The Trip Ditch Club, it's kind of like our Hall of Fame for people that have been supporting the show for a long, long time. A thank you, a shout out, a pat on the back, a welcome home, if you will.

These people have been supporting the show on the shoutout level or above for three consecutive years, never dropped away. We've already given them a shout out a couple of years ago, but to enshrine them forever, to thank their support, we put their name on a wall. We welcome them into the clubhouse. We get them onto the red carpet and we say, thanks for coming and you're never going. Because why would you want to leave? Why would you want to leave?

So basically it's our theatre of the mind, hangout zone. Some people call it a front door. We call it a one-way valve. Yeah. Once you get sucked in, you'll never get sucked out. Never again. Never again. Oh, yeah, but we serve them food.

We serve them drinks. The menu gets longer every week. We have live music. I always book a band. Jess is normally behind the bar. She is still there tonight. She's just doing it via Brisbane at the moment. And, yeah, I think Just let me know that tonight behind the bar,

She is serving crater cakes and Tunganska cocktails. And they include like super fizzy drinks. Okay. All of them mushed in together. And then what she does is get the soda stream and fizzes it up some more. So it's, it is, you know, pumping with fizzy juice. Yeah, it is ready to go. Yeah, it is ready to go.

So get ready to pop that top. it will take an eye out if you're not careful. And Dave, what band have you booked? Well, people will be yelling at their iPods if I don't mention that the reason that Tunguska really sticks out to my mind is it is the name of the eighth episode of the fourth season of the great show, The X-Files. Oh, right. You remember this.

Molder travels to Russia to investigate the source of a black oil contamination. A classic episode in the overall arc of the... show and this week in celebration of that you're never going to believe who i've been able to book book in don't tell me catatonia oh i wish i wish we could get the welsh voice of an angel to come out tonight but we have got none other than x-files composer creator of the do do do do do himself to perform it live mark snow if you're doing that live I hope his voice holds up. Yeah, he will be doing it all acopella.

Do do do do do do. I'll also going to say, Dave, I reckon I was just looking, as I was putting together this list, we have got Patreon supporters on the shoutout level who are coming up to seven years. Seven years. Seven years. And I'm thinking maybe we think of a new club. We can't do another club. And you're speaking for the decade.

Within the club. For those who make the decade. Well, I've got to tell you that we've... We've got three years to come up with an idea for it. It's been in the news this week that... The Qantas has the lounge that people can become members of. Then they've got the business lounge if you're on business class flights. But then they also have the chairman's lounge.

Yes. Which is invite only. And it's behind a secret door within the lounge type thing. We could have a secret door within the Trip Ditch Club where you get taken out the back. not shot. You'll be taken out the back and pampered with like the decade club or something. We'll think of something. Yes, we've got three years to think of something.

If anyone has any suggestions, let us know. But, um. Jess will enjoy that I've put that forward in her absence. This, uh, end bit can get, go even longer every week. I think, I think it's, I think so, if they're around for 10 years, tell me they don't deserve another shout. Tell me, Dave. Oh, I won't say.

Dave, tell me. Go on. I won't. Because you can't. No, because you're threatening me. So I've got four inductees into the trip ditch club to Nate. Tonight. And I'm standing on the door.

I'm about to lift the velvet rope. I'm going to read out these names. Dave's on stage, mic in hand, ready to hype you up as you enter. I'm going to call out your name. Lift the rope. You run in. Dave's hyping you up. Everyone who's already in the club will be chanting your name.

You might not necessarily hear it on this. We don't have great audience mics here. but you will hear Dave. Yeah, that's right. All right, are we ready to go? Dave normally does a bit of weak word play based on your name or your hometown. So just to prepare you for that,

he's not being disrespectful. He's being very respectful. Very respectful. You have any of the respect you deserve. All right, first up from Kawasaki in Japan. It's Chiharu Nishimoto. More like Powasaki, yeah. Oh, Dave, you've done it.

From Claremont in Tasmania, Australia. It's Daniel Remington. Daniel Remington, the man of steel. From Santa Monica in California in the United States, it's Margo K. Do Margo in, Kay? And finally, from Plainfield in New Hampshire in the United States, it's Dan Dry. I thought I wanted to Dan die, but now I want a Dan Dry. Come on in.

Welcome in, make yourselves at home, Dan, Margo, Daniel and Chiharu. So good, three, four people from three different corners of the globe. Love to hear it. All converging on the club. Make yourself. at home. Grab yourselves a crater cake and a Tengaska cocktail. But be careful. Be careful. Very fizzy. As you chill out to the music of Mark Snow. Iconic. I'm looking up now. That song peaked at number two on the UK singles chart.

There was a remix of it though. I remember getting a bit of play. Am I thinking of that? Am I correct that? I might think of the Doctor Who one. Early 90. No, this definitely had a remix, I'm wondering if that's the version of because early 96 it got to number two. That's incredible. The world had X-Files fever. And I didn't want a cure. Anyway, that brings us to any episode. Anything else we need to tell people, Dave?

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