Do Go On - 419 - Accidental Inventions

Episode Date: November 1, 2023

This week's episode is devoted to accidental inventions. From the match stick, to Play-Doh, super glue, to the humble ice cream cone. It turns out many of our favourite inventions came about purely by... accident. But it's no accident that on this episode we are joined by the great Michelle Brasier!This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 06:52 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/ Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. Other inventions covered: Penicillin, Post-it notes, granny smith apples, microwave, smoke alarmsREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/inventions/15-of-the-coolest-accidental-inventions.htm#pt2 https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kelloggs-corn-flakes-masturbation/https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a19567/how-the-microwave-was-invented-by-accident/ https://theconversation.com/myth-about-how-science-progresses-is-built-on-a-misreading-of-the-story-of-penicillin-120990https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/accidental-invention-play-doh-180973527/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/03/half-of-inventions-arise-unexpectedly-from-serendipity-not-direct-research/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.
Starting point is 00:00:20 If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Do Go One. My name is Dev Warnocky, and as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins. Hello, Jess. Hello, Dave.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Bit of a vibrato for you. Fantastic. I don't know why. It's a possibility that we could get some more of that from our special guest this week. Please welcome Michelle Brazier. Hello, Dave. She's a piece of shit. Hi, Jess.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Honestly, one of my best friends in the world. I'll say it. I want to be on the record. saying that. Absolutely showed you up. But fuck, she's a piece of shit. Thank you. You know, one of my ride or dies, we'd call her in an emergency.
Starting point is 00:01:23 But Jesus Christ, she's a piece of shit. Hey, yours was good too. She will make you look worthless. She's just so good at everything. It's annoying. Anyway, thanks for coming on the dumb little podcast. Whatever. I'm happy to have you here, Michelle.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Thank you so much, Dave. God, what I've happened to a woman's appalling woman? That's what I ask myself? when you went, Dave, or whatever. Dave. Welcome to the podcast. I think we should do the whole episode in like a transatlantic accent.
Starting point is 00:01:57 People would love it. They would love it. They wouldn't find it insufferable at all. I'm also not totally sure I can do it or what it sounds like. Yeah, I was just going to say, what's a transatlating accent? Is that it? Yeah, it's... Samantha Jones has a bit of a transatlantic accent.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Is it just turning up and saying Scooby-Doo? Yeah. This is going to be. be fun. Well, welcome to the podcast festival and welcome to Block. Yes. I got here. I walked in here.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I said, am I in Block? You're in Black? I said, I didn't prepare anything. I haven't dressed properly. I don't know. I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I mean, yeah, like we do often invite you to our awards nights and stuff like that. But yeah, you're on Block, baby. It's an exciting time. And we're in the top five. This is the fifth most devoted for. If people don't know the concept of Blockbuster Tau,
Starting point is 00:02:47 but where have you been? It's the biggest month slash two months in the Dugawan podcasting calendar. We put out a big poll and said, hey, what do you want us to talk about? We've got thousands of votes and the votes were tabulated. The top nine were selected. Yeah, infuriating. Blockbuster and November, which was annexed for some reason to make it bigger and better. And this is the fifth most popular topic.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Can you believe it? It's been a wild ride so far. We've had a little bit of everything. When you said we put out a big pole, I pictured like a really big boom pole that you, with a mic on the end that you're like putting out to the general public going, just yell what you want. Yeah, you're there boy.
Starting point is 00:03:24 What are we? What are we? What are to see? There's probably better ways to do it. But that's just the only way we know. That's the right way. And I said thousands of votes. It took months.
Starting point is 00:03:34 It's tradition. People go to Italy to see people do that tradition. Yeah. Because they have, they have Blocktober in Italy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I go and I go every. Blocktober. Yeah, like that.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah. Yeah. Is that good? I don't know. That was really good. That's really good. That was translated. I thought so.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Okay, now we always start this show with a question, and it's my turn to report on a topic this week, the fifth most voter for topic. And Jess, in theory, has seen this topic written down in a long list somewhere when the topics were assigned, but I am very confident you have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm certain she won't. I could have just looked at it. I have no idea. So I'm going to give you a little list here, and you can buzz in any time, but the question
Starting point is 00:04:15 is, what do the following things have in common? We've got the slinky. Okay. Dynamite. Yep. Post-it notes. Okay. Super glue.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Coca-Cola and matches. Okay, I've got an answer straight off the bat. Yeah. They're all things. Okay, nouns. Yes, they are nouns. Damn it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I need a little bit more specific. Is this about nouns? It's the history of nouns. Okay, we've officially run out of things to talk about. I'll do go on. It was 419. You imagine that people voted for nouns. The fifth most popular topic.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Annverbs was number four. Do they have the same inventor? No, but it is something to do with their... Romaine and Michelle? It is something to do with their invention. Post-up notes. Yeah, that's very good. Is this, are they, are they, they can't be people who died by their own invention, is it?
Starting point is 00:05:08 Accidental inventions. They were all invented by accident. Congratulations. Well done. Thank you. Because I was going to say, how do you die by Coca-Cola? Or post it note. You fall in, it's that good.
Starting point is 00:05:19 The dream. No, these were all invented by accident. This is our fifth most popular topic for Blockbuster, 2023. It's basically accidental inventions. Oh, I like that. I've got a list. We're going to go through some of them here. Great.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Including some of that I already mentioned and some more. Oh, my God, exciting. So he's done a little trailer at the top of the episode. And then, so you've really hooked us in. Yeah, you're hooked. You want to hear about Superglue. Well, it's coming up. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:05:45 My friend Ruben Kay. super glues me to myself all the time every August, every August. Every August. Yeah, yeah. In Edinburgh, at Edinburgh Fringe, when he gets, when I'm at my lowest low, when I'm at my most tired, to pick me up, he'll find, he'll find an item to offer me, often when I'm like crying and be like, babe, here you go. And sometimes it's a vegan chicken nugget because they're, the UK corn ones,
Starting point is 00:06:08 very good. Shout out to the corn vegan nuggets from the UK. And they're better in the UK than here. They're much better in the UK. They're a different texture. I don't know what's going on. Yeah. Completely different nugget.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Finally done good food over there. In the frozen section. No, that's what others say. I love their food. You can't do good food. Have you been to Bubbler in London? Oh, you've got to go. Scoopy do.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Darling. My friend Katie is a chef there. Oh, yum. So she's not at Bublar, but she is a chef in London. But she did work at Bubbler, but that's fine. What I'm trying to say is that Ruben will sometimes offer me a nugget as a gesture of kindness. and it will have super glue on it. Good.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And then I will be glued to the nugget. Or a glass of wine or some sort of item. It'll glue something to you. Yeah. And how do you react to that in the moment? I always laugh. Okay, great. It really does help.
Starting point is 00:06:59 It works? Yeah. Yeah. That's so funny. Yeah. Now, this topic has been suggested by a couple of people in different ways. One of them said, just to do accidental inventions and one named a couple. So thank you so much to Scott Coventry from Grenick and Jonathan McGee from Frederick in Maryland.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Jonathan McGee from Frederick and Maryland. That's good. I like it. I like what I've started. I hope they like it because I'm not going to stop doing this. No, nor should you. Now, humans have been inventing for thousands of years. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You know this? Really? From the wheel of Mesopotamia to the latest I've heard sold at the Chadston Shopping Center. Can you believe it? But not all inventions have been on purpose. Some of the best and longest lasting were created by accident and have a lasting legacy. New York Times columnist.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Pagan Kennedy, which is an incredible name, wrote a series of articles on inventions that eventually became the basis of a book called Inventology. Pagan writes, one survey of patent holders found that an incredible 50% of patents resulted from what could be described as a serendipitous process. Thousands of survey respondents reported that their idea evolved when they were working on an unrelated project and often when they weren't even trying to invent anything at all. Wow. So imagine that up to 50% of all inventors. could have been the result of some sort of happy accident.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Because you're just given it a go. Exactly. You've got to be in it to win it. Yeah. You're out there sticking things together. My parents invented me by accident. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Isn't that amazing? I'm one of the longest lasting. Accidental inventions. One of the most influential, too. Very influential. Yeah. Yes. If you tell me to buy something, I'll buy it.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yeah, I'll buy it. I interrupted you, Jess. I'm sorry. I'm a terrible invention. Now, a couple of the ones I mentioned at the top, we've actually talked about before. Coca-Cola had its own episode. Yes, I'm sure you remember.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Episode 77, yes, all those years ago. Of course, I remember it very well. Dynamite, we talked about its creator, Alfred Nobel, on episode 199. Yep, remember that also, of course. And for some reason, we did a full bonus episode on the slinky and the weird story of its creation. He did.
Starting point is 00:09:05 But the other ones I mentioned, well, let's get to them and more. Starting with an invention from 1826, British pharmacist John Walker invented the matchstick. Or the friction match, it was called. Friction match. Friction match. I don't like it. Friction match.
Starting point is 00:09:22 It's fun to say. Friction match. Yeah, it's really easy to mess up saying it. Friction match. Fricion match. He got it the first time. It's pretty good. He developed a keen interest in trying to find a means of obtaining fire easily.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Before this, it was grab a couple of sticks and start rubbing or grab the nearest nerds glasses. Case in point, pointing to my own face. Classic. Several chemical mixtures were already known to ignite by a sudden explosion, but it had not been found possible to transmit the flame to a slow burning substance like wood. So I think they were trying to get like a safe process. They were like, we know how to blow up an entire barn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:58 How do we make a bonfire? There was nothing in between at the time. How do I get some of the fire from that burning barn over here? Every town had a constantly burning barn and you went up to it. Like a well, but for fire. Just minimum fire, please. It's two bucks square. What's a family-sized fire?
Starting point is 00:10:21 While Walker was preparing a lighting mixture on one occasion, a match which had been dipped in the mixture, took fire by accident upon rubbing against the hearth. It rubbed along the half. What's a half? Like the fireplace. He picked it up. It rubbed along the top and it caused friction and it instantly burst into a small flame
Starting point is 00:10:40 and he went, I think I've got something here. Wow. Albeit accidentally. Wow. He just had a substance that he rubbed and went, oh, that works. He started making wooden splints or sticks of cardboard coated with sulfur, which is the part of the mixture, and tipped with a mixture of sulfide of antimony, clorette of potash, potash and gum.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I was going to say that's what I would do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gum. Yeah, extra. Chewing gum, yeah. Chewing gum, if it just caught flames every time without any slight friction in your mouth. It actually does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:13 If you cheaty hard, it will catch fire. You've got to be really careful. Oh, my God. It happens all the time. He sold what he called his friction lights. That was the original name. It's a bit better. Friction lights better than friction match.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Friction match. To locals in 1827 is when it first started selling, each box came with a piece of sandpaper to create a friction with the lights. Yeah, right. So he's a little sandpaper for it. He didn't patent his invention. Fucking idiot. And I've heard two reasons.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Not a offense. Every strip club in the wall. world would owe him money. They all have their own matches. Is this a strip club? You know what I mean. Yeah, strip club? Yeah, that's a thing.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Shroup, did you just look to me to be like, did I say the politically incorrect way of strip club? Is that what you were going to give me? Is it, you know, a sex work adventure house. What is it called? You know. Haunted house for sex. They pop out, but they don't scare you.
Starting point is 00:12:10 They turn you on. And everyone's consenting. No, no. I was more like, is it for clubs that do? Yeah, they do. Yeah, ladies lounge. And they used to have like, I think my, growing up, I found my dad had this old collection of matches
Starting point is 00:12:23 that he got at every hotel. Yeah, hotel. Because I used to be a thing, but he had, you know, dozens of boxes. But so he didn't patent his invention. I've heard both because he wanted to share his discovery with humanity, but also maybe because he just neglected to and missed out. So there's two.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Is there, like, a statute of limitations and when you can put in a patent for something? I think you, it's still up for grabs. Fuck yeah You should take it Every strip club in the world's going to owe me money Where do you buy matches? Oh strip clubs I've never bought matches
Starting point is 00:12:52 They're just always there Yeah Now they're in the aisle Next to the batteries I reckon at the supermarket Can you buy matches at the supermarket? Where do you get batteries? Supermarket
Starting point is 00:13:01 That sounds like boy stuff Yeah Oh yeah There are just batteries in my house When I say that I say Where do I send my man to get batteries I can't go into the battery aisle Everybody will think I'm crazy
Starting point is 00:13:12 say ma'am The tab packs is over here You're allowed in one aisle So the invention took off And was improved on and changed to how society lights fires In a time before electricity But it also had some terrible unintended consequences Leading to something called Fossey Jaw
Starting point is 00:13:32 I've never had I have such a great visual gag I was just going to try and do like Fossie dancing With my jaw And then I was like I don't know how I'll do this and how I'll translate it to like audio, but I just want you guys to know that
Starting point is 00:13:45 I was really quick and smart and thought of a quick smart and funny theater joke so, I sucked you in. I could have done that. I could have done it. I would have been like... And it would have been very funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I don't know. I can't do it. I physically can't do it. Fossy jaw. Fossy jaw. Now, the real name is phosphorus necrosis of the jaw, which is nasty stuff,
Starting point is 00:14:06 commonly called Fossy Jaw, was a horrible disease in which workers in match factories were exposed to white phosphorus, the active ingredient in matches at the time, led the workers to develop unbearable painful abscesses in their mouths, leading to facial disfigurement and sometimes fatal brain damage. Whoa. It literally caused their jaw bones to rot.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Oh my God. Why specifically the jaw, I wonder. Factory is bad always. It's always bad in the factory. You never hear like all the factory workers were so lucky. They were all millionaires. Yeah, they're millionaires now. They all got shares.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Great work-life balance, good hours, very, you know, flexible hours for people who had lives and families. Even Santa tried to have a rebrand and call it the workshop. We know it's a factory major. It's a factory Santa. Come on, mate. Come on, mate. That's horrendous. But yeah, it is really interesting that, like, it's attacked the same bone in every person.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Yeah, I guess it's what you breathe it in all day long. Red phosphorus was much safer but more expensive so people didn't use it. Right, of course. There were lots of pushbacks. against the use of the dangerous white phosphorus, including the 1888 match girls strike, which was an influential industrial action by the women and teenage girls working at the Bryant and May Match Factory in London,
Starting point is 00:15:22 and it had lots of influence on future strikes and workers' rights. But still, the chemical was used until white phosphorus was finally prohibited by the International Burn Convention in 1906. The full title was the International Convention respecting the prohibition of the use of white phosphorus in the manufacturer of matches. Jesus Christ. Was this before the radium girls?
Starting point is 00:15:44 Similar, similar sort of, and they're often compared to each other. Like, which one's hotter? Yeah. No, in like, fuck Mary Kill. Radium girl. Matchstick girl, cool girl. Head kind of girl. Yeah, they often compared to each other as like workplace injuries or like on a mass
Starting point is 00:16:03 level. Wow. Wow. Imagine like being one of the matchstick girls or whatever they call it. And like you're working. on making something that you can't even go into a shop and purchase. Yeah, because you try and say, ma'am. And it's like, what do you do? Get out of it.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Milk and eggs are over there. We're allowed to get milk and eggs. We're allowed. Okay? We're allowed. Don't look at us like that. I'm calling the police. We're allowed. You go play in your matchstick aisle and we'll see you at the counter. We'll see at the counter. We're allowed. So much fun in the match to go. Let me tell you. So fortunately, over the few years that followed that industrial use of white phosphorus
Starting point is 00:16:39 ceased and we no longer have people with fussy jaw, but that is an unintended consequence of his accidental invention. Wow. You never would have thought that that would happen. No. Next up, we have Post-it Notes. Okay, great. Which, as he said, is covered in Romeo Michelle's movie.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yes. So we know how this one got invented. Well, we know who, but. We know who invented it, Romney. There is another alternative theory. I don't know. In brackets, incorrect. I didn't know this was a fiction podcast.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Yes, you do. Post-it notes were invented by Arthur Fry. Oh, his name wasn't even Post-it. No. Disappointing. Artie Frye. Post-it, but man. I think there's something in Artie Fry is a business name.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I think his business cards should be post-it notes. Yeah. He hands him out and then you can stick it somewhere. That's good. That'd be good. Yeah. If he hasn't done that. He can just stick it to people.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Yeah. Cop that. Yeah. Cop that. Wow. That was incredible. That was powerful. I'm going to call that man.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Arthur Frye. Artifri, an American man who started working at the 3M company, originally the Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing Company. Oh, Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing. 3N. Wow. Never thought about it. From 3M hooks?
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yes, those same hooks. The very same. Mining and manufacturing. Are they still mining? Should I stop buying 3M hooks? I don't think they are anymore. Oh, it's tough out here for renters. I don't think they are anymore.
Starting point is 00:18:08 But while studying a chemical engineering degree, Arthur Fry started working for the company in the 50s, and he stayed there a long time because in 1974, Fry attended a seminar given by 3M colleague Spencer Silver. That's a great name. Spence Silver! And at the seminar, he spoke about a unique adhesive that he'd accidentally developed in 1969. Silver's innovation had an unusual molecular structure yielding an adhesive strong enough to cling to objects, but weak enough to allow for a temporary bond. So, like, you could take it off.
Starting point is 00:18:42 He's made a shit glue. Yeah. He was like, this glue is so shit, I don't know what to do with it. You could stick paper stuff and then you take it off pretty easily, actually. Yeah, and he's like, but it's strong enough that you could stick it on again. You get a few sticks out of it. And he was looking for a marketable use for the invention. He's like, I made shit glue.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I don't know what to do. Silver didn't know, but his talk had lit a fire of an idea. Our guy, Artie Fry, worked in. new product development and it was a bit of a thinker. And to quote from how stuff works.com, I guess this is how art. You've posted knows what it. A singer in his church choir,
Starting point is 00:19:19 Art Fry, was constantly frustrated that the bookmarks in his hymn book kept falling out, causing him to lose his place. I hate that. So annoying. Here I am, Lord. Is it?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Oh, I don't know where I am. Oh, fuck. Oh, my God. Oh, fuck. I'm sorry, father. I'm just, I fucked it again. Sorry, sorry. Frustrated.
Starting point is 00:19:43 You understand, father. That exact scenario. He then thought of silver's adhesive and that it could be used on paper as markers in his hymn book. This idea still didn't grab the attention of the company's executives. Why? It's so sexy. Hey, I was in church. They're like snore.
Starting point is 00:20:00 But a lab manager named Jeff Nicholson was determined to get it to market. He thought it was a good idea. So he and his team created enough of the product to distribute free. samples to businesses and people throughout Boise, Idaho, 90% of whom reordered the product. Wow. They're like, hey, here's a little free sample. And they were like, hey, that shit was good. Can we have some more?
Starting point is 00:20:19 And you might ask, why are most Post-it notes yellow? Well, that was also an accident. During the process of experimenting, Nicholson's team borrowed some scrap paper from the lab next door, and the paper happened to be yellow. After the scrap pile had been depleted, they simply continued ordering more yellow paper. And then sort of took off as like the... No reason. Now you can get all sorts of different colors, but yellow is still the stand.
Starting point is 00:20:41 You can get pink. Girls are allowed now. Yeah, yeah. Girls are allowed post-its now. I get a hot pink one that has like lines on it so I can write, you know, like in nice and neat. Yeah. Because otherwise I run it in like a little circle. Like a boring.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah. But that classic yellow you think of, it's a pretty boring yellow too. Yeah. So I do think like jazz it up a little bit. Jazz it? Yeah. I like a neutral post-it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Yeah. It's really nice. Just like a brown. Like a beige? Yeah, brown or beige. Forest green. You can't read the ink, but I love it. It's lovely.
Starting point is 00:21:12 It's a beautiful palette. It's really nice. It doesn't interfere with the energy of my space, which is a sacred space. My post does stuff to match my space. My dog bomb in it on my carpet yesterday. Okay, yeah, cool. Just talking about my sacred space. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:27 She was like, I don't know. We got a new round. She was like, I don't know. That was so good. They're on fire. We got a rug to put in the spot where she always vomits. There's a spot where she, like, tries to make it outside, and she doesn't quite make it.
Starting point is 00:21:47 So that's where she vomits or shits if she's got diarrhea. That's her, like, awful spot. Yeah. And so we got a rug to be like, this rug is for you to shit on. Yeah. And she's just vomiting all around the rug, just everywhere near the rug. Oh, whoa, I respect the rug. I'm not going to ruin the rug.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah, she's like, oh, not on the rug. Oh, God. This new rug. It's your favorite thing. I know you love this. They love this rug. They made a real song and dance of like putting it down and like showing me the rug. So I would hate to upset them.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I'll vomit next to the rug. I'll vomit next to the rug. Not on the rug. They're rugs for emergencies. I'll find a hard place to clean up and I'll vomit there. So Artie Frye was honored with the company's top technical title after it became a worldwide bestseller. Corporate researcher. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Artie, congrats. But he said my biggest reward is to see so many people use and appreciate my product. But wouldn't it be better if you have it. had heaps of money. Yeah, if I had a cent for every post-it note, that would be even better. Yeah, that'd be... And they come in like a 20-pack. So that's 20 cents per pack.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Per pack. They sell millions. He'd be crushing it. Post-it notes are sold in more than 150 countries, and Fry is still alive today, age 91. Whoa. What a go? That rules. But there is controversy.
Starting point is 00:22:57 There is a rival claim as to who invented the post-it note. Romeo and Michelle. A third claim. Oh, a third claim. Wow. Another American inventor named Alan Amron, who invented these, you'll know these inventions, the photo wallet, and also battery operated water pistols. Oh, sure. He's got the runs on the board.
Starting point is 00:23:19 He claims that he was the inventor of the Post-it Note. Amron has made claims to be the inventor in 1973 of the technology used on Post-it Notes, and he said he disclosed his invention to 3M, the big company, in 1974. He sued 3M in 1997, which resulted in a confidential settlement. A settlement? Yes, we don't know. Was Romy and Michelle in the settlement as well? I would hope so. Yeah, it was a three-way settlement.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Three-way, three-way settlement. Amron's pretty interesting guy. His Wikipedia page, which is a Wikipedia.org, it's a website about inventors I found. Oh. It says that in 1976 he created the international committee to reunite the Beatles. What? Which failed. What a fucking nerd.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Yeah, he sounds like he has too much time when he stands. He placed radio and newspaper advertisements asking everyone to donate a dollar. Which would then be given to the Beatles to re-in-up records. Do you think that it went to the Beatles? Or do you think maybe he took it to make some battery-operated water guns? I don't think anybody gave him any money. Oh, you're drinking that delicious orange juice, Dave. How, do you like this?
Starting point is 00:24:18 I love that juice. It's actually so good. That's the best orange juice. Didn't I say when I first, I had a sip, said, this is very good. Is this your first time, sun zesting? This is your first suns zest? To be honest, it was the last one in the fridge at the cafe we went to. And I thought, I was thinking that I was getting the poor man's juice.
Starting point is 00:24:35 No, mate. You have struck gold. But it's absolutely delicious. Is there sugar in this? Like, is it just... No, it's just juice and it's got pulp in it, as God intended. It's fantastic. This is not an ad. No, but how is it so different to all the juices, I wonder? It just tastes so good. It tastes really good. There's a reason there was only one left in the whole fridge. Yeah, that's right. You were lucky. It's a good juice. It's, you know, before like all the juices that you get at the suit. Like, what's such as nudie juices is a good juice. Yes, that's the one I often. It's a pre-new juice. So before nude was even, when nude was fully clothed,
Starting point is 00:25:09 Sun Zest was at fish and chip shops around the country enticing you. And I said, yes, please. And I'll never, I've never gone back. I mean, I'll have it. I'll have it. Any orange juice. I'm not, I'm not a loyalist. I'm just, I just want to make a big deal.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You're a fan. I'm a big fan and I think it's a small company. It's probably owned by Coca-Cola, but listen, it looks like small company. I love that. It has that family biz look. I've got the made in Australia. Made from an Australian grown organic oranges too, so there you go. Organic oranges, look at that.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Wow. Grony sunsaintiff. 375 mils of pure heaven. Who invented sun zest? Johnny Sun. Wow. And his best friend Gregory Zest. Yeah, put them together.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Greg Zest. Sick last day. It's really good. Jess Zest. Just Zest. Okay, not for me, maybe. Just Shelds. Dave Zest.
Starting point is 00:26:09 David Zest. That's good. That's good. Oh my God. David Zest is amazing. David Zest. A real pleasure. You honestly got just like hotter just then?
Starting point is 00:26:20 You said David, David Zest. I was like, am I going to fuck Dave? Like, this is crazy. Call your wife. Tell her it's David Zest. She will finally fuck you. I'm certain of it. I'm certain.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Finally. David Zest. Could this be a new me? Yeah. All right, everyone, start calling me David Zest. Let's try and get this accident to take off. No, as soon as you try to make a nickname stick. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Do not call me David Zest. Do not call me a sexy-na? Yeah, all right, David Zist. Do not rebrand me as an absolute sex machine. Got him, David Zest. All right, post-it notes, tick from one sticky thing to one of the stickiest things. Oh, geez. Super glue and chicken nuggets.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yum. Vegan chicken nuggets. During World War II, Harry Koover. was working for Eastman Kodak's chemical division in Rochester, New York. He was part of a team conducting research with chemicals known as cyanoacrolates. Yeah, that's close enough. In an effort to find a way to make a clear plastic that could be used for precision,
Starting point is 00:27:21 for precision, for precision gun sites for soldiers. It's hard to say, precision gun sites. It is hard to say. There we go. Always as hard as, what was the match one? Yeah, I was kind of... Friction match. Friction match. So this one is precision gun sites.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Oh, God, you're good. Precision. Precision gun sites. God, you're both much better than me. Yeah. So for soldiers, while working with the chemicals, the researchers discovered that they are extremely sticky. And this property made them very difficult to work with. Lay down your arms. I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I'm joking. Like, it's like guns akimbo that Daniel Radcliffe. movie where he wakes up when he's got guns. Is that what happened? It was what started the war, you said? They would apparently, like, they'd be so annoyed because everything would just stick, they'd just like, their hand would like stick to the fridge and they'd be like, fuck. Everything's fucking sticky.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Yeah, it would be really annoying. When you're like, oh, no, no, trying to get stuff. Get off. And they found that it, the, whatever the product they came up with would bond anything to anything. And it was just annoying. So they were like, okay, this isn't. feasible to make gun sights out of because it's too sticky. Move on. Then in 1951, our man, Koova experimented with the glue yet again, this time to develop heat-resistant jet aeroplane
Starting point is 00:28:44 canopies. And again, canopays. These are heat-resistant. These ones are gluten-free. They're all sticky. Because again, everything was annoyingly sticky. He and his team tried the substance on various items in the lab, and each time the items became permanently bonded together. It is so fun. Shit! I wonder if it will...
Starting point is 00:29:10 Oh, shit! Well, surely not the... Shit! Like the boss walks in one day after a day of research and like 15 researchers are all glued together. Oh, help! This crazy landlord for a time, and he was like this old Italian man and he lived two doors down and one day he got stuck in our house.
Starting point is 00:29:38 So he got on, came home. And he was out in the backyard. You know those chairs that are like wrought iron and they're sort of curly and white? He'd sat on one of those. He always wore a leather jacket even though he was 6,000 years old. And I came out of the back and he had this weird voice and he would always just come over with no real reason. He'd just be there. Just sort of say, and I live with Demi Lander and he referred to her as the little one.
Starting point is 00:29:59 He would tell any tradies that the little one's in charge. And I came home one day and he was just yelling from the backyard, Michelle! Michelle, Michelle. I went out the back house like, what are you doing, mate? And he's like, I'm stuck. And his jacket had like looped onto one of the curls of the chair. And instead of taking off his jacket, he'd stayed stuck to the chair in the brain in my backyard,
Starting point is 00:30:27 where he legally should not be. He got to just take the jacket off. I looped it. Got on his mind. Michelle. How long had he been out there, do you know? He said he'd been there for hours. He's like, I would rather die here than that.
Starting point is 00:30:39 take my joke off. And what, and when, how did you get him out of that situation? Did you take the jacket off? I immediately just like unlooped him. It was so easy. I was like, oh, whoop. It was really, he'd been there for hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I love him. He was really good. I love him too. He was the best landlord I've ever had. He was crazy. He was so crazy. Michel! They're all stuck together.
Starting point is 00:31:03 They're all stuck. So Cuba notices, fine. Like stuck to a chair. We can't make shit out of this. But this stuff's really, really sticky. maybe we could use it as a sticky thing. Yeah. So he made...
Starting point is 00:31:13 Stop trying to make a sticky thing be a not sticky thing. Yeah, like a solid thing. Just go lead into it. Let it be sticky. If you got a couple of kids and one of them is like an amazing dancer. Yeah. You're not going to make that dancer be a mathematician. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And if you've got a couple of kids and one of them is an adhesive. Yeah. Don't try to make it. A dancer. Encourage them to be sticky. They're going to have terrible footwork. It's going to be. be so bad.
Starting point is 00:31:40 They'll be able to do that Michael Jackson thing when they lean forward real good. Yeah, that's true, but that's all. That's the only move. The moonwalk is out of the question. So he realized these sticky adhesive had unique properties in that they required no heat or pressure to bond
Starting point is 00:31:52 and he patented the product as alcohol catalyzed cyanoacrylate adhesive compositions slash superglue. Beautiful. Away with words. Yeah, that's poem. And he began refining the product for commercialization. According to Lemelson,
Starting point is 00:32:09 in NMIT. Later, it became known as Superglue, and Kouva became somewhat of a celebrity himself. Appearing on television in the show, I've Got a Secret, where he lifted the host Gary Moore off the ground using a single drop of the substance. He also appeared in TV commercials for Superglue. Wow. I don't think you could lift a man with a single drop of Superglue. I think there's been some trickery. Do you think if Rubin glued you to a nugget and then could pick you up by the nugget? I've never been picked up by a nugget. I've never had that pleasure But I'll try
Starting point is 00:32:43 Something like you should go on an episode of I've got a secret I've got a spin I've never been picked up by a nugget I can't see in the show That's hosted by Stevo From Jackass From Jackass
Starting point is 00:32:56 And it's like It's like called killer karaoke or something And people have to sing a song Whilst they put their hands into boxes Full of like spiders And snakes But screaming This is a very
Starting point is 00:33:11 woman she's very confident she's singing that like before he cheats song and she's like sit on down and my pretty little things I'm gonna quit it's the best show we've clocked TV perfect TV does exist everyone look it up it's on YouTube I love it I've never heard of it but I'm gonna check it out before he cheats killing karaoke I'm gonna show you guys up I can't wait you love it so yeah it took off superglue and during the Vietnam War that followed it was that the glue had medical applications as well. Field surgeons began using the substance by spraying it over open wounds, which stopped bleeding instantly and allowed hurt soldiers to be transported to medical facilities
Starting point is 00:34:01 for conventional treatment. Wow. But then you have to get off the superglue. Yeah, that bit probably hurts. I guess you're like, well, he didn't bleed to death on the helicopter ride over. Over the course of his career, Harry Koover was awarded more than 460 patents. In 2010, he received the National Medal of Technology and Innovation from President Obama. This is the highest honor the United States can offer to a U.S. citizen for achievements related to technological progress.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And KUVA died in 2011, aged 94. Wow. These inventors live long lives. Wow, they're being rewarded. Thanks for contributing to society. Thank you for your service. Have a long life. Probably superglead himself to Earth.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah Try and take me Sub glued his soul to his body Yeah Sucked the endic heads Death comes In a little hood He's like
Starting point is 00:34:58 Come on fucko Let's go I can't get him I can't get him He's stuck Death turned up with some Coconut oil And he just worked it through
Starting point is 00:35:06 How about The microwave Okay I don't have a microwave Oh my gosh Neither do I But just because We moved to a new place
Starting point is 00:35:16 and it didn't fit in the cupboard, so he just left it at the old place. No, I have a microwave. I just wish, I just like, canonically don't have one. Oh, okay, Greg, great, great. Do you know what I mean? Like, in terms of my brand, I don't have a microwave. Oh, okay, great, very, right. I don't think I used my microwave that much, but I think I'm quite useless,
Starting point is 00:35:36 and the times when I do use it, if I didn't have it, I'd be like, I, I have nothing. I don't know what to do. How else would I boil water? It's no other way. I think that that's what Americans do, right? Yeah. They put it in the microwave? I believe so.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Or something like that? Or maybe they put it on a pot. Maybe a stove. They don't have a kettle. Yeah, kettles aren't super common. Just walking around. No kettle. They go to work, no kettle.
Starting point is 00:35:59 No kettle at the work. No kettle on the tube. Yep. No kettle. That's what I love about London. You get on the tube and there's just... The kettles. The kettles everywhere.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Every seat has his own little kettle. Do you love that? You make a cup of tea. You enjoy your ride. I love the tube. I love it. I love it. kettle. I love,
Starting point is 00:36:17 Inventy one from London's listening, never change that on the central line where it screams, never change that. Yeah. But keep that scream. It's nice. Give you scream. Mine in the gap. Don't drop the kettle. Down the gap. Well, in 1940, the microwave kind of came to prominence.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Let me tell you about American. American man, Percy Spencer, began working at the Raytheon Manufacturing Company. That company still exists today, making missiles. military training systems and electronic warfare products. Cool. According to the popular mechanics, Percy Spencer was their go-to problem solver working on radar technology
Starting point is 00:36:56 and helped to develop proximity fuses or detonators that allowed you to trigger artillery shells so that explode in mid-air prior to hitting their mark. Sounds nasty. Spencer earns several patents while working on more efficient and effective ways to mass-produce radar magnetrons. Popular mechanics explains,
Starting point is 00:37:16 A radomagnetron is a sort of electric whistle that instead of creating vibrating sound creates vibrating electromagnetic waves. This guy sounds like an evil scientist. Yeah, it does sound like that. Totally. But now we can have rice in 90 seconds. That's so good. Just open it a little bit in the packet.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Give it a squeeze. Squeeze, squeeze, you go squeeze it. Put it in. Oh, thanks, Uncle Ben. 90 seconds. And dinner's ready. I wouldn't know. I've heard.
Starting point is 00:37:42 You're still having away over a proper stove. Yeah. Yeah. Getting a done nails. I grow the rice myself. You grow the ice. You don't use gas. I don't use gas.
Starting point is 00:37:51 You blow it until it gets hot. Yes. In 1945, Spencer was testing one of his magnetrons when he stuck his hand in his pocket, preparing for the lunch break when he made a shocking discovery. The peanut cluster bar that he had in his pocket had melted. Oh, can you believe this? What the actual fuck? He was freaking out.
Starting point is 00:38:11 He's like, great. Well, there's my lunch gone. And now my pants are ruined. Oh, I think he had an accident And he said it's a melted My peanut It's a cluster It's a cluster
Starting point is 00:38:22 That's why it's chunky Don't spell it I think he's had an accident And he's really He covered it up by inventing a micro Yeah It's like, oh Melton I bar
Starting point is 00:38:32 All right Spencer this is the oldest trick in the book We know what you did I never pooped myself Shut yourself mate I never I never pooped myself It's also commonly
Starting point is 00:38:42 commonly said that it was a chocolate bar that melted but his grandson, Rod Spencer, is adamant that it was a peanut cluster bar. Okay, Rod, have you got some other stuff going on? Or this is the most important? He said his grandfather always carried one so he could feed it to squirrels and chipmunks he encountered. That's so funny that he's like, oh, a little squirrel, oh, a little chipmunk. Oh, the end of humanity.
Starting point is 00:39:02 A missile. Cool. But I love to carry little treats for my chipmunk friends. And it's possibly more significant because chocolate melts way more easily than a cluster bar. So, like, that's not going to melt. just from your, from your body. Fuck's a cluster bar. I think like, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:18 if you have like a nutra grain bar or like an LCM sort of stuff. Is that something clustering? Pre-packaged. Yeah. One of those aisles. Yeah. One of the aisles you don't go in.
Starting point is 00:39:28 No, I don't. I go on the outside. Yeah. I stand the outside. So he's like, oh, the magnetron made this melt. That's weird. So he tried it on other foods.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Popcorn popped. Fuck, yeah. He made the world's first microbe. popcorn. He then tried an egg. It exploded. The world's first microwave exploded egg. He was ticking off. He was ticking off. And according to a website that I can't believe it exists, but it truly does. It is history of microwave.com. Can you believe that? I can. And it's my new homepage. I can't believe it. This is what it says. The microwave cooking oven was patented by the company Raytheon with one of the first prototypes placed at a Boston restaurant for
Starting point is 00:40:12 testing. The first. The first public use was in January 1947 in a speedy weeny vending machine in Grand Central Terminal, which sold freshly cooked hot dogs. The first commercially available microwave also appeared. Is it a transatlantic accent? A speedy weedy machine that had hot dogs in New York. It sounds insane. Speedy weedy. Speedy weedy.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Come on. Do you want a speedy weedy? Sweetie. What are you needy? Do you want me to feedie? The first commercially available microwave also appeared that year in 1947 and the first models were huge, about six feet high and weighing more than 750 pounds. They cost $5,000 at the time, which is equivalent to $65,000 US dollars today.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Wow. So they're for commercial use. Yeah. But what kind of, what would you put in it? I think they would put them in like, you know, high-end kitchens and things like that. Places that could afford, you know, this cutting-edge technology. High-end kitchens, are they using microwaves a lot now?
Starting point is 00:41:25 I'm sure they are, yeah, I'd say so. Every chef loves a micro. Every chef. Show me a chef, I'll show you a micro. I love them. What was it called? A magnet rood boy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Speedy weedy. What's it called? Speedy weeny. Micro. Magnetron. Magnetron. Magnetron, yeah. I'm going to call my microwave that I don't have my magnetron. Yeah, I just got to pop that in the magnetron.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And then dinner will be ready, so. She's got to melt some chocolate in the magnetron. Nigella has a microwave. That's true. She says microavel. Of course. Which we love. After World War II wrapped up, wartime technologies were adapted for domestic purposes.
Starting point is 00:42:07 The ovens became smaller and more suitable for homes. These days, there's a microwave in more than 90% of American homes. So hundreds of millions, if they're not. not billions have since been sold. Percy Spencer never received any royalties for his invention. But he was paid a one-time $2.2 gratuity from Raytheon, the same token payment the company made to all inventors on its payroll at the time for company patent. Raytheon can suck my dick, but also he did invent missiles so he can also suck my dick.
Starting point is 00:42:36 They can both suck my dick at the same time. I'm really fun. I'm like fun sexually. Yeah. Percy Spencer died. in 1970, age 76, not too bad. Yeah, well, that, see, that's for a reason, isn't it? No offence to your family, if they're listening.
Starting point is 00:42:53 But you made bad things. His grandson is adamant that it was a peanut cluster pot. Yeah, well, his grandson probably has mining money and Nicky and S my D as well. I'm fun, I'm open. Okay, now we're not saying suck my dick, okay. S my day. It's only got a certain, you can only say it a certain number of times. So, you got to ask.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Otherwise, this has to be on SBS plus 11 p.m. Now, some products are invented for one purpose and then found to have a totally different application. For example, Play-Doh. Do you guys know anything about Play-Doh? I know how it tastes. Oh, God, it tasted so salty and good in my memory. It was salty, yeah. I haven't had any for a couple of months, but...
Starting point is 00:43:32 It's been a while. It seemed to remember it tasting great. It tastes so good. It actually started out as a wallpaper cleaner manufactured in Cincinnati in the 1930s. What? Wallpaper cleaner. Yeah, it was initially. devised at the request of Kroger Groger Grocery, which wanted, this is a business, not a person,
Starting point is 00:43:50 which wanted a product that could clean coal residue from wallpaper. Coal residue from wallpaper. Yeah, I guess you have your open fireplace. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And you would just get on the wallpaper. And this kind of like, you know, imagine play doughy stuff. You just rub it off, rub the wall. And this type was invented by Noah McVicker.
Starting point is 00:44:11 But following World War II, again, the world's changing with the transition from coal-based home heating to natural gas, the resulting decrease in internal soot and the introduction of washable vinyl-based wallpaper, the market for wallpaper cleaning putty decreased substantially. The Smithsonian writes, Joseph Vicker, letter to Noah, who was one of the inventors of the wallpaper product, was trying to turn around the struggling company when his sister-in-law read an article about how wallpaper cleaner could be used for modelling projects. Sister-in-law, K-Zufal, that's a great name, who herself. was a nursery school teacher,
Starting point is 00:44:46 tested the non-toxic material with children who loved molding into all kinds of shapes. Oh, cool. Worm. That's a good one. Worm is a great one. You just roll it for a while? Sausage.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Sausage. Saug is a good one. Snake is a good one. Warpaper cleaner. That's a great one. Yeah. Worm. Worm is a good one.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Choping up, two worms. Two worms. Two worms. Two worms kissing. Oh my God, Dave. Stop. That's scandalous. So she, you know, her kids were playing with it.
Starting point is 00:45:16 So she told Mick Vicker of her discovery and even suggested a new name. She said, you should call it Play-Doh. What? Did she, does she have fat stags? I imagine the family got rich. It was difficult to track down this, you know, who the original inventor is because there's so many people in the chain. I would like to say that the original inventor is her. She's the smart one.
Starting point is 00:45:35 They made something that cleans the wall and she went, you fucking idiots. This is fun. This is Play-Doh now. This is Play-Doh. Adventist promoting Play-Doh on influential. children's television shows in 1957, furthered the product sales, and it soon became a cultural phenomenon. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Plato has since sold more than three billion cans since its debut. Wow. And because of its history is different products, a few people have been listed as inventor or developer, co-marketer, that kind of thing. So it's hard. I really wanted to track down basically to see how old they were when they died to prove my theory that all they meant to live on. I did find an obituary for Philip Steiner, whose company Kenner products.
Starting point is 00:46:14 developed and marketed Plato and he's sometimes listed as an inventor and he died at 92. Okay, impressive. When did that girl die? I'm not sure. I couldn't find much more about Zay-K-Zou-Fal.
Starting point is 00:46:28 We should start an investigative podcast about what happened to K-ZU-Fol. I'm a special K investigation. Yeah. We can get a sponsor. Okay, we can maybe workshop the name a little bit more. The sponsor can be Sun-Zest. We love it.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Okay, here's a couple of quicker ones. Ice cream cones were invented way, way, way after ice cream, which had been around since the emperors of the Tang Dynasty in China. Whoa! Between 618 and 907 AD, who are, I believe to have been the first to eat, quote, a frozen milk-like confection that people have since pointed to and gone, that's ice cream. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Isn't that amazing. That is cool. But what about the cone? Yeah, what are you eating it out of? Before that, we were just scooping with our hands like animals. Or like in a bowl, that's fine. But you can't eat the bowl. You can't eat with a spoon.
Starting point is 00:47:17 You look like a creep. You can't eat it with a spoon. Yeah, you're right. You have to stand there making eye contact and licking it for ages instead. That's normal. That's better. Yeah. Oh, hang on, it's gripping. The last time I had, I think it was the last time I had ice cream.
Starting point is 00:47:32 It was on holidays. And I wanted ice cream and my partner didn't want ice cream, but we got ice cream. And I said, just one scoop, please, because we'd had a big dinner. and it was like the biggest fucking one scoop. It was huge. It was too much. One scoop. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I'll give you one scoop. Yeah. We just sat at a little table. It was too big for me to eat on the go. We had to sit and I had to like kind of rush my way through it. That's fair. I understand how that happened. Flavor?
Starting point is 00:48:01 Mint chock chip. Oh, okay. Your favorite flavor, Michelle? Chocolate. Oh, I love chocolate. Pan Dan as well. I like coconut and pan Dan. But I'll never go past a chocolate.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Maybe like a chocolate cookies and cream or a chocolate with something, but I will always choose chocolate. You and I actually get ice cream together. We get each other. You should go get an ice cream. I mean, that's the beauty of going and getting ice cream is that you can all get ice cream and get different flavors. I don't know why I can't come. No, no, no. That's not how it works, Jess.
Starting point is 00:48:29 But you get calm. Mine has chocolate in it. Okay. That's a good argument, Dave. It's mint chalk chip. If you just hate chalk chip and you just whisper the mint, I'll let you say. sit at the same table. Chock chip for me, please. Chalk chip. Man.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Man. I genuinely want to get an ice cream now. And I would get it in a cone, which you couldn't do for a long time. Until, this is a lot later than I would have thought, the 1904 World's Fair in St. Louis. I thought you were going to be like, 1998. My dad, Martin. According to how stuff works again, which does have a great article that. to about a few of these inventions.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Arnold Fornishow, an ice cream vendor at the 19-24 World's Fair and St. Louis, had trouble keeping up with the day's demands because it was quite hot. He's just scooping strange people's hands. Here we go, have we go. Have we look. Quick. Throwing balls of ice cream. He had so much ice cream.
Starting point is 00:49:30 He ran out of paper cups to serve it in. A nearby vendor named Ernest Hamwe was having the opposite problem. His waffle-like pastry called Zalabia, which is popular in the Middle East, North Africa and West Asia, wasn't selling. So he gave some to fauna shout to serve ice cream in, and the tasty combination has been a hit ever seen. Wow. That's great. What a good story. It's a cone-like thing, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:54 That's just people being nice to each other. That's beautiful. That's a story about, like, cross-cultural. Like, that is, hey, that's beautiful. And now we get waffle cones, and they rule. Thank you, Zalabia. Yeah, waffle or die. I want Zalabia. What's, has anyone had that?
Starting point is 00:50:10 Mm, no. Is it the same as waffle or is it like a warm? No, it is different. Let me look it up again. I want to eat that. Yum. It actually looked, when I looked it up a bit more fried, it's a fritter or donut like thing found in several cuisines across the Arab world, West Asia,
Starting point is 00:50:24 and some parts of Europe, influenced by the former. Wow. Yum. There is a fritter version which is made of semi-thin batter of wheat flour. So that's the fritter version. I think it was more of a pastry version. Hmm. Sounds delicious.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yeah, but what I'm looking like, they look delicious. I'm going to eat this. Now I want to love it. I'm going to see if this is a labyrinth. I think you're just hungry. Yeah, I always am. Okay, in the 1930s, Swiss physicist Walter Yeager was trying to invent a sensor that could detect poison gas. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:54 It failed. Sure. And annoyed, he lit a cigarette. And wouldn't you believe it, his device registered the smoke from the cigarette. This accidental discovery led to the invention of the modern smoke detector. Wow. Which now detects when you've burnt some toast. Damn it
Starting point is 00:51:10 And you're like I don't need your passive aggressive aggressive bush I know I've burnt the toast Oh so annoying Someone get a teetail Do you don't freak out? I have a panic every time
Starting point is 00:51:18 No my dog is absolutely fine But because of my history with fire I freak out My body just like Loses control And I know that I'm fine So I'll be like I'm fine, I'm fine
Starting point is 00:51:27 I know I'm fine And Tim will be like It's okay You're safe because I'm like But I'm also like I know I'm fine I'm okay But I'm bawling my eyes out
Starting point is 00:51:35 And I've done a little check And I'm not on fire this time This time I made it through. I've just Googled Zalabias near me. Yes. And so it says that they're known in Greece as Lukamates. Oh, they're great. And they are very close to us.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Yum. Likamates are very nice. Yeah, there's little balls. Delicious. So I think there's Zalabia balls. I think, do you know what? There are probably some sort of like bastardization, what we're thinking of. But like, they are a delicious treat and I love them.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Yeah, yum. They're really, really yum. So he was trying to invent something that detected poisonous gases. Yeah. But. And then it didn't work. Which I guess he, well, no, is smoke a gas? I don't know. No, smokes a vapour.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Yeah, so no. A vapour? I was trying to, like, back him up. Like, yeah, he kind of did, I think. I think that honestly, this is much more. Fire is poison for all humans. No one can. I mean, I can't take it.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yeah. I mean, you're all. smoke alarm goes off and you cry. I cry. I do cry. I do cry. I don't think you can take it. Yeah, I can take it.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Okay, you'll never imagine what the next guy invented. What? John H. Sandwich. Kellogg. Oh. Sandwich.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I'm going to stick with sandwich. Yeah, sandwich. I think it's, I think it's not, I think it's not, not fucking each other. Yeah. Yeah. He's a big fan of that But before that he invented corn flakes Biggs
Starting point is 00:53:11 Oh Nutri Grang That was Chris Bix Milo cereal Does that still exist We have it in my In my household regularly
Starting point is 00:53:21 Absolutely delicious They made a plant-based Milo And it changed my Oh wow Fucking light Is it taste like you remember the other Milo Yes That's awesome
Starting point is 00:53:31 It tastes exactly the same As I remember I think it's finer Maybe it is But that's not a bad thing You still have Milo. I mean, I haven't had it in like 20 years now. So now that I'm having it again, everything's just so much better.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah, I love a little Milo. You look good. Thank you, so much. You look happy. Yeah, I'm happy. I got that. I got that Milo glow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:52 So John H. Kellogg invented corn flakes, the first dry flaked breakfast cereal, which became the most popular dry breakfast cereal in the world and transformed the typical American breakfast. Kellogg was a medical doctor who looked after patients at a sanitarium and promoted wellness through a healthy vegetarian diet and routinely experimented with new food products according to the National Inventors Hall of Fame, which he's a member. Kellogg was working with his brother William Keith Kellogg on a new kind of wheat meal for patients at the sanitarium when the process that resulted in corn flakes was accidentally discovered.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Rolling out wheat dough that had been forgotten overnight, the brothers discovered that instead of loaves of bread, they got thin flakes. Oh. Kellogg's patients like the new food and he sold over 100,000 pounds of the cereal in the first year. Wow. Just old bread. Yeah. We left it over and out, cut it up, rolled it out and went, oh, look at these little...
Starting point is 00:54:47 Where does it... Why is it called corn flakes then? Yeah. I don't actually know. What's in corn flakes? Not corn. Just wheat? Yeah, it's just wheat bits.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Wheat bits? Wheat picks. Why is it sort of yellowy then? And delicious. Piss. Oh, it's piss. Lots of nutrients then. Now, there is a commonly circulated fact that Kellogg invented cornflakes to prevent masturbation.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I've heard this. I've wanted to believe this. It's not true. But the good people at Snopes.com have debunked it. Oh, no. I'm so sorry, everyone. Oh, that's disappointing. So how did he stop everyone from wanking?
Starting point is 00:55:25 How come no one does it anymore? Nobody wanks anymore. There's a lot of slapping. Slapping. Stop. No. Have a cornflake. A lot of that. Because that's universal.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Ah. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter what language you speak. Ah, it's going to make your stuff. I mean, dogs get it. Dogs get it. They don't speak English.
Starting point is 00:55:43 They do not speak English. They do not wank. They don't wank. They also put down the thing they've started eating on the street. Ah. So snopes.com writes, according to the available evidence, corn flakes were primarily created as an easy to digest pre-prepared and healthy breakfast food. That does sound more, like, reasonable than a wank prevention.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Yeah. Scheme. In particular for patients at the sanitarium, I mentioned, the product was never advertised as an anti-masturbatory morning meal. But I need you to not worry, he is still a bit eccentric with some very warped views on sex and masturbation. Yes, let's go. Kellogg was a devout Seventh-day Adventist. Kellogg encouraged strict abstention from almost all forms of sexual activity or contact, even among married heterosexual couples. Cool.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Kellogg and his own wife had separate bedrooms and reportedly abstained from ever consummating their marriage. Fuck yeah, Kellogg. This guy does not fuck. This guy's a virgin. Yes. I have questions about why. Like, why?
Starting point is 00:56:48 Because he was a religious man. Yeah, but then at least he should be like... And maybe he thought, I don't want to fuck my wife. Yeah, no, I don't. I know who he wanted to fuck. Me. Yes. And I said no.
Starting point is 00:57:02 No. And he said, well, if I can't. I'm not having Michelle. I'm never fucking never. Say any men. And you're like, sure. Like, what, that's going to happen to mankind if we all follow your idea of just living with a housemate and never having sex?
Starting point is 00:57:18 We'll probably all go ascend to heaven together. Did he have any children? No children. They didn't consummate. They didn't consummate the man. No children. I thought maybe it was like a Mary Jesus thing. In his 1887 book, plain facts for old and young, colon, embracing the natural history and
Starting point is 00:57:33 hygiene of organic life, which I will add sold very well. And I'm serious, it sold very well. Kellogg devoted an entire section of the book to masturbation, which he referred to as self-pollution and the solitary vice and described as the most dangerous of all sexual abuses. Oh. I reckon there's worse. Yeah. I'd say I'd argue differently.
Starting point is 00:57:56 I can name a few worse ones. I think if, yeah, I think you could have a wank and it's all right. Yeah. That's not what he said. Yeah, what did he reckon about 69ing? Yeah, surely that's okay. Surely. As long as it was...
Starting point is 00:58:09 Not even on birthdays or anniversary. As long as it was healthy food, he was up for him. Am I overdue. According to Snopes, Kellogg identified multiple purported causes and harms related to the habit of masturbation, many of which would appear laughably unscientific to a modern reader. Among the causes he listed were exciting and irritating food and stimulants such as tea, coffee, wine, beer and tobacco. That made you wank, and it was not good.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Wow. He also loved an enema. Oh, okay. He advocated the frequent use of an enema machine to cleanse the bowel with several gallons of water. Water enemas were followed by the administration of a pint of yogurt. Up your clacker. Half was eaten, the other half was administered by the enema machine.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Quote, thus planting the protective. germs where they were most needed and may render most effective service. The yogurt served to replace the intestinal flora of the bowel, creating what Kellogg claimed was a squeaky, clean intestine. Oh, that's too much yogurt as well, though. And I like yogurt, but that's too much. Half a pint up the clacker. Maybe that's not that bad.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Half a pint up the clacker. That's too much of me. That's too much up my ass, yes. I ordered a small yogurt. Well, and you've got to ask, though, he said you get a squeaky clean intestine. Did it work? Well, now we know most inventors live long lives. Let's check in with Dr. John H. Kellogg, who died in 1943, age 91.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Wow. I mean, the yogurt thing is good for you. Well, you can eat it. Yeah, you can just eat it. Top down. Top down. That's my preferred method. Go top down.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Just eat the yogurt. Good probiotics. Top down. Yep. Top down. That's fine. And his younger brother, Will Keith Kellogg, who...
Starting point is 01:00:05 What did he put in his asshole? We'll never know. He's the one who actually founded the Kellogg Company. So he's the big Kellogg. He also died age 91. Wow. Pretty good, but he had children. He had descendants, so he was...
Starting point is 01:00:21 Oh, he was fucking. Do you also think, like... Oh, it hasn't been the case with some of these who haven't patent their inventions, so they haven't made heaps of money from it. I was going to argue, like, probably a lot of these inventors are quite wealthy. And money is going to, especially in the old days, that's going to extend your life.
Starting point is 01:00:36 That's going to extend your life because you're able to afford better quality food. You know, you have a roof over your head. But that's not always a case with some of these inventors because they haven't made money off their inventions, idiots. Yeah. The second I invent something, I'm fucking making so much cash off it. Same. I'm not doing anything for the good of humanity. No.
Starting point is 01:00:58 What's humanity ever done for me? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Now, some accidental discoveries come from nature. Let me ask you, what's your favourite type of apple? Fantastic question.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Pink Lady. I like Royal. The Royal Galette. The Royal Galah. Royal Galah. Yeah. I love a Granny Smith for stewing. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Put it in a pie. Let me just say ding, ding, ding. Grady Smith, named after Maria Ann Smith. Wow. An English woman who moved from England to New South Wales in Australia in 1839. together with her husband she purchased a small orchard in Eastwood which is now a suburb of Sydney they started cultivating fruit little did they know they were about to change the fruit game forever wow imagine changing the fruit game forever it's a big it's a big deal let's just let's just
Starting point is 01:01:46 brainstorm what are some new fruits we're going to invent okay here we go here we go chariot chariot banana chariot banana that sounds pretty good yeah uh cherry garcia Cherry glass here. What about just like a giant cherry? Yep, giant cherry. Like an apple-sized cherry? Yeah. That could be fun.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Dakota fanning. Sorry. Dakota fanning. No wrong answer. No wrong answers. No wrong answers. I was just brainstorming. I'm trying to brainstorm.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I'm trying to be open. Yes, and. I love it. Yeah. Dakota fanning. What color is a Dakota fanning? Yellow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah. Post-it note yellow. Yeah. Oh, I love it. Yeah. Yeah. I reckon like an apple-sized grape would be awesome. Oh, that
Starting point is 01:02:30 be awesome. Because I love grapes. They are expensive. Yeah, yeah. If you just have like one big one, it would be heavy because they'd be so, they'd so much wet. It'd be quite dense. It'd be a dense boy. It'd be like a booby. And it would be like teenage boys. It'd be nice to bite into. It'd be fun to throw at people too.
Starting point is 01:02:46 It can't trust people with big grapes. The world is not ready. People got to be bucking those grapes, I reckon. That's probably why they didn't make them. Kellogg would be rolling in his grave if you had this conversation. He'd hate that. I went to a place where they have exotic fruits in Queensland.
Starting point is 01:03:02 They got all these different types of fruits and they got a fruit that's like a chocolate. It tastes like chocolate. What? Yeah. But it's fruit. It's fruit. It's fruit. It's good.
Starting point is 01:03:08 It looks kind of like a dragon fruit and it's chocolate. I love dragon fruit. It's crazy. Yum. They got all these fruits. That'd be great. Okay. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:03:16 We've come up with some new fruits. Fantastic. Granny Smith. Dakota Fanning. Smith, that lady had eight children and later got the nickname Granny Smith that she got off. Too many children. She's like, well, Callag's not having. any. I'm going to have a bunch of kids. I've got to say, I did just double check. He had eight
Starting point is 01:03:34 adopted children, but never any biological. Oh, shit. He's not fucking either. Never banged. That's a family that don't fuck. Oh, no, sorry, the one I was talking about. Oh, so the virgin man. The virgin man, never banged. The other one did do. His brother had five biological children. So they adopted eight. Okay. Well, you could have, you could have got some. I was going to say, for free. He's like, I'm happy to pay. Happy to pay by adopting these people that need a loving home. from scratch. I'm like, one of those people who's like, why are you buying pasta?
Starting point is 01:04:04 It's easy to make. It only takes hours. So there's some debate as to the actual history of the Granny Smith Apple. The first description of the origin of the apple was not published until decades later in 1924. It's one of those ones. The story's passed down a bit. But in that year, Farmer and Settler published the account of a local historian who had interviewed two men who had known Smith. So it's like someone's interview, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I knew that one person who knew that person. But the story is, one of the interviews recalled that in 1868, he then 12 years old and his father had been invited to Smith's farm to inspect a chance seedling, an apple tree, that had sprung near a creek. Smith had dumped there among the ferns the remains of French crab apples that had been grown in Tasmania. Another story recounted that Smith had been testing French crab apples for cooking and throwing the apple cores out her window as she worked
Starting point is 01:04:59 she later found the new cultivar had sprung up underneath her kitchen window sill. So it's either under her kitchen window or by a craik. Yes. Somewhere on the farm, a tree just happens to have grown from an apple core or apple seed. Wow. Whatever the case, Smith took it upon herself to propagate the new cultivar on her property, finding the apples good for cooking, stews, and for general consumption. The namesake of the apple, Granny Smith herself, died a couple of years later.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Not sure I old yours, sadly. But the apple... She was a granny. Yeah. She must have been fairly old. Yeah. But the apple that bears her name has since taken the world by storm,
Starting point is 01:05:36 not just big in Australia, the US Apple Association reported in 2019, which I can't believe that exists, that Granny Smith was the third most popular apple in the United States of America. Wow. Their top five were, number one, gala. Number two, Red Delicious. Oh, I love Red Delicious.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Which had previously been number one for 50 years, so this was controversial in 2019. Whoa. No, you know, I love Red Delicious. I forgot about Red Delicious. I'd like to take back everything I said about I've got a couple more for you just in case. Okay, sorry, you're trying to do a podcast,
Starting point is 01:06:03 but I just want to make it clear that I am a delicious. You're a red delicious. I'm a delicious. Confirmed. Number three, Granny Smith. Number four, Fuji. Yep. Number five.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Honey crisp. What fuck is that. I don't think I don't know. Never heard of my life. That's, like those people watching dancing with the stars being like, I don't even know who is it. Who's that?
Starting point is 01:06:27 Don't recognize any. You call this celebrity goggle box? I don't know any of them. I don't know any of them. I'm a hundred years old. Australia's most popular apple is the pink lady, which was originally bred... Oh, because I'm a basic bitch. Well, it was originally bred by British Australian John Cripps, who passed away in 22 at 95.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Oh, my God. There's people live in one lives. And the pink lady is a cross between a Lady Williams and a golden delicious. Lady Williams is also a chance seedling. meaning that just one tree happened to produce that type of apple. That tree is located just outside Donnybrook in Western Australia and Lady Williams is named after Maud Williams. There you go.
Starting point is 01:07:10 I didn't know that much about apples. I started doing a deep dive. That's really fun. I like that Granny Smith just kind of appeared. They're like, huh, oh, they're quite nice. I know, that's nice. Let's just grow heaps more of this one. And that's what they do.
Starting point is 01:07:23 It's amazing. They're great. They're great in a pie or in a stew. Love stewed apple. Yum. No, I want stewed apple. I've never had stewed apple. Never.
Starting point is 01:07:31 No, can I come over for some stewed apples? Yes. Thank you. Our growing list of desserts that we're having tonight is really growing. I'm going to eat so I'm actually going to Smith and Deli, daughters, Smith and daughters tonight. Yum. Which is one of my favorite restaurants. What do you think they'll have on the dessert menu?
Starting point is 01:07:44 Fucking stewed apple, ice cream. Yeah. Look at my days. Those three options. And I'm going to say, load me up, daddy. Give me more. Okay. Finally, we get to what is possibly.
Starting point is 01:07:58 the most important accidental invention, a breakthrough that has saved millions of lives that has since been called the single greatest victory ever achieved over disease. Vincent Diesel. Vincent Diesel. Human life. Whoopsie.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Hey, what's that? Oh, that felt all right. No months later. Huh, what the fuck's that? Ah, looks like me. That's crazy. Yeah, that's a triumph over disease. I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:08:27 penicillin. Ah, yes. And Jess, of course, knows the inventor of penicillin very well. Maricuri. What have I told you there is a rival claim? This is bullshit. So before the breakthrough,
Starting point is 01:08:41 a relatively minor infection could prove incurable or even deadly. A small scratch, childbirth, STIs, these were all big killers. And it all starts with one person. Marikiri? Or Scottish physician
Starting point is 01:08:57 and microbiologist Alexander Fleming. I was very confident. Was he Scottish? That it was Maricuree? On a Maricuree episode, I was like, and I'm waiting for them to mention penicillin. I was so sure.
Starting point is 01:09:10 But that's okay. I don't know who that is. I know that name, but I don't know who that is. Radium. Oh. Is that right? That's right. And polonium.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Yeah. Polonium. But not penicillin, allegedly. Some say. She did win Not my penicillin inventor Did win two Nobel prizes In two different fields of science
Starting point is 01:09:34 Which has never been done before She was very impressive Yes But she didn't do penicillin That was Alexander Fleming Even Alexander Fleming's career In medical research Is kind of an accident
Starting point is 01:09:43 The National Oh what's this Wonders into a science lab Oh He wanders in He's got a couple of beakers He like combines them And he's like
Starting point is 01:09:53 Oh no there you go Oh no put that on an infection Oh it's better come on. Hero. The National Library of Medicine. He was Scottish, so he's... Oh, oh.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Oh, hi. Hi. Hi-oo. Hi-ru. I love the Scottish people so much. Beautiful. A beautiful people, beautiful language. And they don't sound like that.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Eerie. Eerie. I wish I could do your accent. Down around him, mate me. Don't worry about it. Hen. It's getting better. It's getting better.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Is it getting better? Is it improving? Yeah. Yeah, no, no, it is. It is, it is. Oh, guy. I'd stop, though. Oh, yeah, no, I'll stop.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I'll stop. I'll stop. It's getting better. I think, like, if I came on in a sort of was more gentle with it, maybe you'd believe it. Yeah, that's nicer. But what I'm doing is just really going for something aggressive that they, I've never heard from one of them. One of them. That's what I call Scottish people.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Them. It's us versus them. Of course. And they're winning them. My favorite people. I love them so much. Wow. You have a favourite people?
Starting point is 01:11:05 Yes. That's fucked, dude. Sorry. They have kilts and really good music. That kind of implies you have a least favorite. Well, I do. And they're called, no, don't make fun. I have a UK tour coming up and I can't.
Starting point is 01:11:20 You're going to say the British. Yeah, but I actually do love London. Okay. Oh, yeah. They're your favorite people now. She's full shit. No, they're my second favorite people. My favorite people are the people of Scotland.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Who hate the people of English. That's really hard for me. My dad's don't fight. People England should buy tickets to your shows. Yeah, they should buy tickets. Go out on my internet and sign up for the mailing list and then you'll find out who's going to, when I'm coming to your town. This is me announcing my UK show. Great one exclusive.
Starting point is 01:11:50 And you've nailed it. What are you talking about, Dave? What did you want? Alexander Fleming. That's right. Alexander Fleming. It was an accident. Oh yes, the National Library of Medicine Rights,
Starting point is 01:12:01 how he got into medical research says, while serving as a private in the London Scottish Regiment of the territorial army, he became a recognised marksman. Wishing to keep Fleming and St. Mary's to join its rifle club, the club's captain convinced him to pursue a career in research rather than in surgery, as the latter choice would require him to leave the school. The captain introduced him to Sir Elmroth Wright. Incredible name.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Elmroth. Bring it back. Never heard of it. Elmroth. That's a great name. It's beautiful, isn't it? And Sir Elmroth, a keen club member and a pioneer in immunology and vaccine research, who agreed to take Fleming under his wing. It was with this research group that Fleming stayed throughout his entire career. So basically, a guy wanted him to stay in his rifle club and was like, you should study this because that means you don't have to leave my club. Wow. And that just basically changed the world.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Wow. When World War I broke out, he served in the Army Medical Corps as a captain, watching many, many people die, many from infected wounds at the time. You get infected? Not a lot they could do. After the war, he discovered and named lysosyme, an enzyme with weak antibacterial properties. Again, this was kind of an accident.
Starting point is 01:13:09 He had a cold and put a bit of mucus on a petri dish, which is kind of gross, but then lost it for a couple of weeks in his messy laboratory. Apparently, he's shit everywhere all the time, this guy. Two weeks later, he found it and noted that numerous colonies of bacteria had grown on the slide, However, he noticed that where the mucus was, there was no bacteria. Ah.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Upon further investigation, Fleming discovered the presence of a substance in the mucus that stopped bacterial growth, and he called it lysosyme. He examined other bodily fluids, too, including tears, which he wasn't sure how to get. He tried holding... Oh, that's so sad. He didn't know how to feel. Well, he tried holding onions in front of volunteers, and then moved to lemons, which he squeezed in front of their faces.
Starting point is 01:13:55 The volunteers who were lab assistants were paid three pence apiece for their tier donations. Oh my God. That's great. Sign me out, Daddy. I will cry. I'll be one of your top donors. I'm going to be rich. I'm going to be on a stamp or something, I reckon.
Starting point is 01:14:11 I was doing a panel show the other day, and there was like a joke about a chimpanzee that had a birthday party, and it got for his birthday a picture, like a picture book. And I was like, well, what's the pictures of? And they were like, oh, there were pictures of his family. and I lost my mind. And I was like, I can't, I can't, you have to stop filming. Like, I can't. I'm sorry, I can. You just brought this up because you thought it would be a funny joke, but he's looking at pictures
Starting point is 01:14:36 of his family and then there's footage of him being like, wow. He's so happy looking at the pages. Oh my God. You disgust me. Do you ever show your dog pictures of herself? Yes. All the time. I love to show Goose what he looked like when he was a baby.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Did you get any reaction? No. Oh, yeah. Humphrey looks around the phone. Videos, yeah, videos. If it's moving, he'll sort of watch. And I'm like, that's you. That's you when you were little.
Starting point is 01:15:01 That's cute. And then he goes off and does something else, and I'm like, I'm crying. I'm in the fetal position. If we put a bucket in front of your eyes that day, you would have made many pence. Millions of pants. As well as tears, he tried other fluids,
Starting point is 01:15:13 including saliva, blood, semen and pus. No. Much easier to get the semen. Yeah, get the semen. Just held a lemon in front of a man. Squeased it. That'll do it. They all showed long.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Life's design, and in doing so, Fleming had proved that living organisms produced an innate bacteria-fighting agent. So it's good to cry on wounds. Yeah, cry it up. Oh. There you go. Super glue it up. Super gluing up.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Cried up. This laid the groundwork for his next accidental discovery and made sure he paid attention. A few years later, when in September 1928, Fleming came back to work after a holiday. He again noticed a petri dish containing a sample. And inside the sample, the growth of bacteria was being. inhibited. Before he'd left him him being doing a series of experiments involving the Staphylocal bacteria, which causes staff
Starting point is 01:15:59 infections. He's a nice to know about. Golden Staff and the like. An uncovered Petri dish sitting next to an open window had become contaminated with mold spores and these spores stopped the bacteria. He was able to isolate the mould and identified it as a member of the penicillium genus. So yeah, he came back from a holiday. It was like,
Starting point is 01:16:17 oh, this is weird. This bit here doesn't have any bacteria. This mold seems to have done something. You wonder what it is. That's interesting and gross. And again from the Library of Medicine, he found it to be effective against all gram positive pathogens, which are responsible for diseases such as scarlet fever, pneumonia, gonorrhea, meningitis, and diphtheria. He discerned that it was not the mould itself but some, quote, juice it had produced that killed the bacteria. Juice?
Starting point is 01:16:43 It's probably mold juice. Yeah. And even this is in the Library of Medicine. It says he named the, quote, mold juice penicillin. For penicillin is mold juice. Yeah. Hmm. He published his findings to little scientific fanfare in 1929.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Wow. Fleming found it difficult to isolate this precious mold juice in large quantities. And honestly, his breakthrough was really overlooked. Fleming gave up trying to develop penicillin in large quantities and moved on to other stuff. Wow. Close to a decade would pass until 1937 when scientists, Australian Howard Florey and German, German-born British man, Ernst Chain came across Fleming's research. At Oxford, they were investigating microorganisms and the substances they produced,
Starting point is 01:17:31 and were excited by penicillin and assembled a team of scientists to work solely on what they called the Penicillin Project. Wow. Pee-B. Pee-B represent. It took three years to come up with a successful but painfully inefficient process to produce pure penicillin. Gallons of mold broth were required to bring up.
Starting point is 01:17:51 produce just a fingernail of penicillin. Oh. And they had to collect the mould in bedpans, milk churns, food tins, and even bath tubs. Wow. To have to get a shitload of mold, get a little bit of juice, and then you can get the penicillin. Wow. You only get a tiny little amount. Tiniest amount.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Interesting. Special fermentation vessels had to be developed to hold the liquid, and six women, known as the penicillin girls. Get it girls. Who were employed to tend to the fermenting broth and farm, quote unquote, a few precious milligrams of penicillin from it every week. Wow. Penicillin was trialled on human patients and had great results,
Starting point is 01:18:27 but the quantities of penicillin was so low, they had to make it last any way they could, and it was discovered that 80% of the penicillin was excreted in urine, so they had to collect the patient's urine and then recycle it. Oh. To get the penicilline back out of it. Wow. Howard Florey's wife, herself,
Starting point is 01:18:43 a doctor, Dr. Ethel Florey, helped carry out the first clinical trials, and according to Sciencemuseum.org, Dr. Ethel Florey was regularly, observed on the Pea Patrol cycling to patients' houses to collect their urine. Wow. That's full on.
Starting point is 01:18:59 I've seen Jess on the Pea Patrol. Yeah. Just collect around the neighbourhood. Bucking after bucket. Hey, you got any piss? Got my big bell. Bring out your piss. That's what I say.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Put it in the little basket on my bike. There we go. Ding ding! It's a piss lady. We know. You hear it? Oh, the piss lady! Mommy, can I go see the piss lady? Not today, sweetheart.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Not today, honey. You don't have any piss. With the outbreak of World War II, it was difficult to get the production process to increase in the UK. So the team moved to the USA where it was further developed and by 1943, by which time the US had joined the war, they had sufficient penicillin stocks to satisfy the demands of the armed forces of the United States as well as their allies. PBS writes, from January to May, 1942, 400 million units of pure penicillin were manufactured.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Oh my God. By the end of the war, American pharmaceutical companies were producing 650 billion with a B units per month. So remember how they struggled to make a fingernails worth a couple of years earlier? But it just really ramped up when they discovered how good it was at fighting infection.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Yeah. That's amazing. But do we, what do we use penicillin for now? I feel like I don't take, I don't know if I've had penicillin. Is it in all the antibiotics? Yeah, it's an ingredient in antibiotics. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:29 I think that was my question and I instead just went, what do we have? When do you have? When do you have it? I had it or at lunch? And it clearly works because in World War I, the death rate from bacterial pneumonia was 18%. And in World War II, it fell to less than 1%.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Amazing. The Conversation.com asks, Did penicillin help win the war? And they answer their own question. It certainly saved thousands of soldiers from dying of gangrene and sepsis, but its greatest contribution to the war effort may have been the treatment of gonorrhea,
Starting point is 01:21:03 helping keep the army at full strength. I think of people down left, right and center beforehand. And how was it spreading? People were banging. Kellogg. Yeah, Kellogg would be rolling in his grave by that point. You mustn't be doing that. There's a war to be won.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Exactly. Cut it out. It had taken 16 years from initial observation to useful production of penicillin, but it changed medical science forever. And you might be wondering why Alexander Fleming gets all the credit unless people have heard of Howard Florey and Ernst Chain, who worked for years to develop penicillin in a useful form with whole other team of scientists who get zero shout out.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Well, when that huge breakthrough was reported in 1942, Howard Florey prohibited his Oxford team from seeking media coverage. So only Fleming was widely publicised in the media, which led to the misconception that he was entirely responsible for the discovery and development of the drug. Fleming himself referred to this as the Fleming myth. All three men, however, that is Alexander Fleming,
Starting point is 01:22:05 Howard Florey and Ernst Chain were jointly awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1945. Really capturing the spirit of accidental inventions here, Fleming later said, one sometimes finds what one is not looking for. When I woke up just after dawn on September 28, 1928, I certainly didn't plan to revolutionize all medicine by discovering the world's first antibiotic or bacteria killer.
Starting point is 01:22:28 But I suppose that was exactly what I did. I'm not the same as the other girls. I guess I just stumbled upon it. Yeah, it was crazy. Like some people look for stuff all the time, but I'm more like just chill, leave mess. Just see what's there. He also learned.
Starting point is 01:22:46 said, I did not admit penicillin, nature did. I only discovered it by accident. Yeah, that's a nice man. In 1999, Alexander Fleming was named in Time magazine's list of the 100 most influential people of the 20th century. Fair. And the discovery of penicillin is estimated to have saved over 80 million lives and counting. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Australian Prime Minister Sir Robert Menzies said, In terms of world well-being, Howard Florey was the most important man ever born in Australia. And he was on the $50 note here from 1973 to 1995. Oh, wow. There you go. And they're ages. I'm afraid it's a disappointing end because Alexander Fleming died at 73.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Howard Florey was 69 and Ernst Chain also 73. Wow. But if you add them all up, that's a really long line. That's very old. That's very old. But how long is nature lived for? Nature's the real inventor.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Whoa. Wow. There we go. Thank you. That's got to be like 200. At least. That's a 200 pluser. That's sick.
Starting point is 01:23:42 That's sick. And that's where we'll end things. This report could go forever. Because like I said, of 50% of all inventions are accidents, I could talk forever. They're the ones that I found that tickled my fancy, but maybe one day we'll do a part two. Or if you let me know an invention that you love. I accidentally invented a cocktail, two cocktails at schoolies. One is called the Betty White, it's apple juice and cinnamon and vodka.
Starting point is 01:24:06 And then the second one is it's called a Colonel Sanders. And it is whatever you're drinking, but you have a chicken wing, and then you dunk it in, and then you cheers the person with the chicken wing and then you throw it over your shoulder. I think I like the Betty White better. Yeah, the Betty White's yum. Because vodka goes nicely with juice. Whereas chicken doesn't go as nicely.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Yeah, with whatever you're drinking. But it's fun to throw stuff over your shoulder. It's fun to have an activity. Yeah, that is true. Sort of like, you know, that's why tequila shots are fun. There's a process to them. There's a process. It's a game.
Starting point is 01:24:37 You've got a haircut. Ah, I've just taken off my headphones momentarily. It's nice. Thank you. I've got to go. I don't like your hair I'm out No I do like your hair
Starting point is 01:24:50 It looks great Thank you so much You look like a real David Robert Zest Is that what David Zest David Zest Thank you
Starting point is 01:24:58 Was the hands name Robert Zest was my father Oh no no man Robert Zest was my father He looked like a regular David Zest It was a sunsest Yeah it wasn't a real man I remember
Starting point is 01:25:06 I forgot it was from It was a drink I was like what did Robert Zest in Vets? Was he the person No guy Robert Zest No, that does bring us to the end of the episode. Michelle, thank you so much for joining us on this blockbuster special. I can't believe you let me into block.
Starting point is 01:25:20 That's crazy. You made it. I was banned from a blockbuster video once. That makes sense. Did you stop paying fines or did you not rewind? I didn't pay my fines. Yeah. You got banned.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Yeah. I think it's also the fire you started in there. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Who can say? Who can say? Not them.
Starting point is 01:25:37 They're all dead. Now Michelle, if we wanted to see you coming up or find you online, I think you've got some sort of UK tour tour. So if you go to my Instagram and you go to my little like the link, there's like you can sign up for my mailing list or you can go to the tour website, which is like the ticket website, just so you'll see whatever I do. I just announced a show at Sydney Festival, which is crazy. I'm doing average bear my show, but with like a string section at Wharf One at Sydney Theatre Company for Sydney Festival.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Isn't that mad? Wow. When's that? Somehow they've been tricked into offering me this. in, I think January. That sounds awesome. Isn't that amazing? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I'm so excited. So I'm doing that. So that's on sale. You can get tickets to that and then sign up to the mailing list off and follow me on Instagram to find out about any international things that may or may not be coming up. We love it. Well, Michelle, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:26:33 I love you. Bye. Bye. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show where we get to thank some of our wonderful patrons. for supporting us over at do go on pod. No, Patreon.com slash do go on pod. But there is also a link on dogoonpod.com, so that was great instincts.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Yes. I never do this bit. I actually genuinely kind of blacked out through most of that. I was like, I was just autopilot. Because Matt usually does this bit. We haven't addressed the fact Matt's not here. Yeah. He's traveling in the United States of America at the moment.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Having a wonderful time. He's living it up. And we miss him. We just heard from him. He's had a deep dish in Chicago. Yeah. And he said it was a lovely. depth, which is the funniest food review I've ever heard in my life. A lovely depth. Well, I was
Starting point is 01:27:19 worried it would be a bit too deep, but it was a lovely depth. A lovely depth. We both laughed a lot at that. We really enjoyed that. So yeah, Matt's not here. So a big thank you once again to Michelle for hanging out with us and... Yeah, so nice. Filling the void of Matt Stewart. So it's just Dave and for the Patreon section, which honestly, everyone's happy about... Well, the Matt's away. The kids will play. So the first thing that we like to do is... And if... If you want to get involved in this, you can join us on the Sydney-Shineberg deluxe level. Is that correct? That's right.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Where you get to submit a fact, a quote or a question. And it has a little jingle. It goes something like this. Fact quote or question. Ah, he always remembers the ding. Ah, she always remembers the sing. I was talking about myself in the third person there. Yeah, I love that.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Love it rebrand. Do you want to read the fact quote of questions? Yes, how about I do that? I'll put my little glasses on. Thank you. Put your little glasses on. Pop them on. Can you do that?
Starting point is 01:28:12 We also haven't addressed. Yeah. And it's great to do it an hour and a half in. Because I haven't milked it enough yet so far. But I was hit by a car. I didn't know if you wanted to tell the good people at home that about that. It was like a week ago now. So I'm still milking it.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Jess has been hit by a car. And in a way, they should know about it, even more so, because you were on the ride home from a bonus podcast. That's right. You and I just recorded that afternoon. That's right. We went out separate ways. I drove home.
Starting point is 01:28:38 I said, see you later. He said, oh, I'm just going to go, I'll pack my things and I'm going to get on my bike and head off. Yeah. I said, I love you. You did say that. That was your final words to me. So I just think the Patreon should feel bad, is what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:28:49 You weren't hit by a car. It was only because we were recording a bonus episode for them. That's right. And it was a fantastic bonus episode that I implore people to check out if they're on the Patreon about Chris Lemons. That's right. A diving incident in the North Sea. Gosh, you had me on the edge of my seat that whole episode.
Starting point is 01:29:05 Yeah. And then, unfortunately, you were off your seat when someone hit you with their car. Good to joke about it. I was genuinely so upset and terrified by your first message by saying, I need a preface. My first message will say, I'm okay, but, and that came up first, and then you said I've been hit by car. I did that to a few people, and they all,
Starting point is 01:29:25 the feedback was that really scared them. But I mean, if I just started with, I've been hit by, I honestly, it prepared, prepared me to know that you're okay. I'm okay. So do you want to tell people you are okay? I was, yeah, I am okay. I'm fine. I've got bruised ribs.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Yeah. But I'm okay. But I was really, I wanted to. to milk it now in that like can you do all the hard part? Oh sure, sure, sure. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, great. And, you know, get the door for me and carry my stuff downstairs. Cookie dinner. Yes, please, if you don't mind. That's genuinely what somebody has had to do for several days. But I'm up and I'm out and about and I'm okay. Yes, we're so, thank you for your concern. We're so thankful that you're okay. My gosh, it was scary. Feel bad because we were making something
Starting point is 01:30:09 for you and it nearly killed me. And I just think you should think about it. That's right. You know, you risk your life for our art. See, Matt would hate me making that joke. He would hate that, but he's not here. So I get to make the joke that I nearly died for you, Patrions. So while the Matt's away, we will milk the Patreon. I'll get the guilt. So basically, people can submit, have you said this bit? I've also on an older pilot, a factor quote or a question. We read out their name. They also give themselves a title. It can be a brag. It can be a suggestion. It can be a recipe. It can be anything. It can be a really. really anything you want to share with us, we're open to it.
Starting point is 01:30:46 And the first fact of got a question this week comes from fantastic support of the show, Sof Waldron. Ah, Sof, our group photographer and always in the front role of our shows. It's always a comfort to see Sof. Yes, love seeing you out there at all our shows, Sof. And Sof's title this week is, she's 30, but she's neither flirting nor thriving. And it's hard, Sof, because, you know, that saying is out there, 30, flirty and thriving. you feel like you have to live up to this expectation at 30.
Starting point is 01:31:16 But it's okay to not be flirting or thriving. It's okay to just be indifferent and surviving. That's fine. Yeah, that's good. That's okay. She's 30 indifferent and surviving. That's good. And so it's given us a question this week and the question is,
Starting point is 01:31:34 what is your go-to dinner party question? Oh, that's good. I mean, am I hosting the dinner party? am I a guest at the dinner party. It doesn't really make a difference. Yeah, I suppose you're still asking questions, maybe. No, I don't ask questions. I allow people to ask me questions,
Starting point is 01:31:49 because I'm always the most interesting person at the dinner party. I'll Google it, but I also... You'll Google it. I'll come up with some options for you, Dave. So you look down at your phone and you go, What is... Dinner party questions. Your middle name.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Dinner party questions for adults. What was your first job? Oh, okay, our kids party entertainer. Who is the most famous person you've ever met? Oh, Jess Perkins. I was pointing it myself. Anyway, but that's what you said. Who is someone you really admire?
Starting point is 01:32:18 Jess Perkins. What's your earliest memory? Possibly Jess Perkins. And what made you smile recently? Definitely, Jess Perkins. Just being alive. One of mine would be, like, if you had a genie, you got three wishes. Oh, wow, this is good.
Starting point is 01:32:35 What are your three wishes? Incredible. That's a good question, I think. That is a good one. Do you want to think about that? About my wishes? Yeah. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:32:44 That's so tricky. Obviously, world peace. Yeah. Obviously, that's number one. Food for everyone. It is tough. I can really only think of one. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:56 What's your, what's a fun one? Because you've got to make a fun one. I always say I would really, I would wish for like a really, like a very good singing voice. Oh, nice one. Not that I would necessarily like change careers and want a bit, but like it would be really nice to be able to like get in front of a crowd and sing and people go wow yeah oh shit that's lovely you know because i do i break you anyone is oh that's lovely that's not i do break into song a bit on this podcast and and our listeners have occasionally said to me you can sing i don't
Starting point is 01:33:28 think that's i don't necessarily agree i'm not tone deaf but i can't sing and i would love to sing so i would love to be good at it you know yeah yeah yeah i don't have to be a Adele. It doesn't have to completely change my life and now I'm a huge musician. I would just love to, you know, just sing. Put a smile on the folks at the old folks. I would probably if I, I think I would probably be able to speak and understand every language. Oh, that'd be great. I'd love that. Every language is a great idea. Yeah. That's so many languages though. Yeah, but it would be awesome that, wouldn't it? It'd be really handy. Yeah, true. Because I was going to, yeah, I was like, oh, maybe I'd just pick one. But why just pick one? If the option was there that you could, I wonder if that
Starting point is 01:34:09 would be something that would end up being a burden. Like you'd be on a train and be understanding every language. Yeah, yes. You couldn't turn it off. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, maybe. But it's not like the film What Women Want where you're hearing people's thoughts, I guess.
Starting point is 01:34:25 That would be my second question. Because you can still hear people talking on the train. Yeah, because when it's in English, I can hear people talking. It's not like, you're like, oh, God, that's annoying that someone speaking English three rows down. Exactly. So rather than speaking Italian, which I have no idea what this. saying? Yeah, it would be very handy, actually, to be able to communicate. And I want to include like sign languages as well. Oh, absolutely. That's great. Definitely. Yes, all sorts of signs.
Starting point is 01:34:50 My go-to dinner party conversation, I don't know if it's a question. I think it would be more, I love hearing about people's trips. Yes. I love hearing it like I love hearing about people traveling. Yep. Where they've been, where they're going to go, what their favorite bits were. I love talking about travel. So it's definitely some sort of travel-based thing. Have you been on any holidays lately? Have you got any coming up? I definitely always are. ask anything coming up. Yeah. Something that you're looking forward to at the moment.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Yeah, absolutely. So it's nice to have stuff to look forward to. My partner started asking people, what do you do for fun? Like, rather than just what do you do for work? That's good. Because you're more than your job, you know. And actually, yeah, at a recent party hosted by yourself. When did I have a party?
Starting point is 01:35:29 Well, your wife had a party. Oh, yeah, that's right. I don't know why. I got cagey about mentioning your wife for a second. I don't know why. I panicked. I was like, when was the last part? No, your wife's birthday party.
Starting point is 01:35:38 That's absolutely right. And started talking to your wife's cousin and said, and what do you do for fun? And it led to this lovely conversation about his passion for Dungeons and Dragons. Oh, yes, there you go. And, like, he spoke really enthusiastically about it and we had lots of questions. And it was really nice. There you go.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Because you probably want to, if you just ask, what do you do for a job? Yeah. Doctor. He would have said, doctor. Yeah. Okay. That's nice. I know what that is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:03 And then conversation over. Excuse me. I'm going back to the bar. I think my go-to dinner party question would probably be Who are you and what are you doing in my house? And can I get you a drink? Because you're a good host. That's a great question, Soph.
Starting point is 01:36:19 I'd love to hear other people's questions on that. Well, answers with their question, because that could be something you keep in the back pocket for future. Yep. Let us know, Sof. Love it. And hey, keep being indifferent and surviving. Our next fact-quered question is Alec Ruiz. Giharo or Guerrero, pardon me.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Alec Ruiz Guerrero. Beautiful. Fantastic name. Who's given themselves the title of do go on seventh banana in brackets, well, at least until my alarm went off. You had to, okay. Did you have a dream? Are you dreaming about us, Alec?
Starting point is 01:36:57 Alex's given us a question this week and is, hello again? Hello? Hello? Have you all ever had to either pass on a report either because there wasn't a lot of info on it or because you weren't comfortable doing the report. I hope you are all doing wonderful and as always muchas grazias. And there's a picture of a turtle or a tortuga, I believe that it's in Spanish.
Starting point is 01:37:19 Oh, laddie da. Have we ever passed on a topic because there wasn't enough information? Apps are freaking loatly. Or a lot of the time, yes. Yeah, a lot of the time. I would happen pretty frequently. Yeah. You look in the hat and go, I've never heard of that.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Let me quickly look it up and you think this looks tricky to get the info on it. You'll type it in. there's one source. It's a book that hasn't been printed since 1980. You cannot get a copy of it. There's no digital excerpt going and you go. There's no Wikipedia page that's start on. Or it might be like something that happened, I don't know, in Sweden or something.
Starting point is 01:37:49 There's not many English sources. Yes. So yeah, that happens all the time. That has happened a fair bit. Fair bit. And then if you're, for me, I'll try and do that bit before I put the things up with a vote for the Patreon. Yes, yes. Two out of three of the topics, when it's outside of BlockTurb, get voted by the Patreon people.
Starting point is 01:38:06 You don't want to lock yourself into a topic that's not possible to research. Yep. So that's when I'm mostly passing on a topic is going, I'm trying to get a three or four to vote on. Yeah. And maybe I get two. And trying to find that third one can sometimes take like an hour and a half. It takes so long sometimes to pick potential options.
Starting point is 01:38:22 You go, oh, this is good. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. So that does happen to fit. And things that aren't comfortable, we're not comfortable about. There have been. So we used to do a bit more like serial killer or murdery type ones. Yeah, true crimey things.
Starting point is 01:38:35 We don't do as many now, and that is a bit more of a conscious choice, you know, full disclosure. Because, and some of them that have been suggested are too full on. Absolutely. There's a few that in the hat that you do with Google, and within two sentences, you realize this is horrific. Yeah, there's no way that we can make this fun or interesting. You know, and I don't really know how we made some of, like, I think with some of the killers that we've done that where they're like, they were discovered in a somewhat ridiculous way. or, you know, it's a really intriguing story and the investigation into them.
Starting point is 01:39:11 That's one thing. Or it's really, really old. Yeah, that's right. It just feels a bit better. Centuries of separation from Jack the Drip or something like that. Yeah. But there's, yeah, there's somewhere we're sort of like, oh, that involves a lot of children dying.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Yes, we're not into that. We tend to really avoid those a lot. Yeah. So, yeah, well, that's it. It is a great question. We tend to, we do a bit of everything, of course. But, yeah, sometimes we use our own discretion. Just not only to protect our own mental health,
Starting point is 01:39:35 But also just because we have a pretty good idea now of what we do well. Yeah, what will work best. Yeah, and what will make for an interesting podcast that we can do. There's a lot of really amazing true crime stuff out there that gets really gritty and gory and awful. And, you know, that's their territory. I don't think we do that as well. So we won't do it if that makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Yeah. So there you go. Thank you, Alec. Thanks, Alec. Our next fact of a questioner is Andriana. Oh, I've actually gotten a pronunciation in brackets here that as I double-click got. Andri-honor Gen U-Aldi. Let me say that all together. Andrea Genu-A-Gen-U-Aldi.
Starting point is 01:40:23 Beautiful. Genu-Aldi's a great name. I like the sound of us. Yes. The title that Andrea has gone for is Chief Instigator. Ooh, important role. Of what? I like it. Maybe we'll find out. This one is a suggestion from Andreana, our chief in Skater, which says,
Starting point is 01:40:39 Can you please record an episode that is mixed? So the report presenter is in the middle, and the two sassy riffers are on to the left and one to the right. Ooh. That way it would sound like we were sitting at the table with you. That is a really fun idea. Love the show, Andrea Rice. That's interesting. So right now, I'm in the middle because I was reporting.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Jess would be in the right hand headphone. Yeah. I'd be panned to the right. Michelle, I'd be panned to the left, is what would have happened then. Oh, that's quite interesting. That is interesting. One of what I feel like if you're in the car or in the surround sound. Yeah, I think it would feel good in headphones.
Starting point is 01:41:15 This is probably a question for our fantastic editor slash audio producer, AJ. Yeah, I think maybe we should try it as a bonus one time and see if it works. Yeah, that's a good idea to see what people like. Because that could be pretty interesting. It sounds fun. I think it would take a bit to get used to and then you'd feel alright. In headphones, it would kind of feel nice. Yeah, we should do some sort of audible experience.
Starting point is 01:41:37 Yeah. Yeah, great. That's a good idea. Thank you so much for that suggestion. Love that. And finally this week, we've got Colin Wright, aka hype man for my TikTok influencer brother. Hell yeah, Colin.
Starting point is 01:41:51 And Colin's given us a brag, which we also welcome. We love a brag. Brags are absolutely welcome here. Okay, here we go. So my brother, who occasionally contributes here on fact to quote a question, has a TikTok account where he talks about the collectible
Starting point is 01:42:07 trading card game Magic the Gathering which Colin adds which would make a great good which would make sorry Mona
Starting point is 01:42:14 rate him as they're right I know no editorializing by writing great which would make a good report slash menu report
Starting point is 01:42:22 among other things he makes awesome skits where he uses green screen to play the game against himself to illustrate cool tricks
Starting point is 01:42:29 and also to make very esoteric jokes about magic I'm writing in today to brag, he recently just passed 10,000 followers. Hell yeah. That makes him officially a TikTok professional. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Love it. His account is at under the number 100 EDH, so U and D-D-E-R-100-110. And he goes by Cobold coffers. Love it. He specializes in putting together really cool decks that aren't super expensive to buy and anyone listening who enjoys Magic the Gathering should check him out. He was the one who first got me to listen to the pod on Episode 147, Annie Oakley, Little Miss Shawshot.
Starting point is 01:43:06 Thanks so much, one of my reports. I didn't really get what podcasts were at the time, so I was initially very confused, but loved the vibe, and I've seen, I've been a Patreon for a few years now. That's awesome. So thanks to my brother who got me into this and congrats to him on this cool milestone. Hell yeah. P.S. I told him it was like when Jess was campaigning for 10K on Insta,
Starting point is 01:43:27 because I relate too many things in our lives to the pod, lull. Yeah. But hopefully no one hacks his account. Oh, man. You're taking me back, Colin. What a time that was. That's really cool and really nice. A beautiful sibling moment there. I love it. One more time, it's at under 100 EDH. Check it out. As a fellow TikTok influencer, I've deleted TikTok now. I've been off it for two or three weeks, I think. Really? Is in like your account or that's like on your phone so you don't scroll anymore? Yeah, it's not on my phone anymore. So I haven't posted for a while.
Starting point is 01:44:02 are taking over your life that kind of reason? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was wasting so much time. I was losing hours of my day. That's why I can't, I couldn't get another social media. Yeah, it's too much. But I did get two million views on one video and then I deleted the app because I was like, I've clocked it. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:44:17 That's so good. Most people would be hooked at that point, but you're like, no. I was like, it was an accident. And my life hasn't changed. I'm fine. I've got, I'm not rich. But that's really, that's a beautiful sibling moment there. I love that.
Starting point is 01:44:30 I love that. I can't imagine my brother riding in. to a podcast to brag about me. So that's very nice. Now, our next section of the favourite section of the show is where we thank a few more people have been supporting the show and we give them a shout out and then Jess usually comes up with a little game.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Yeah. For like a little nickname or something that we can give to each of these people. Yeah. It was accidental inventions, anything. I'm going to come up with something they've invented. Okay, great. Oh, God. I regret this a bit already.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Look, if you're going to do it, How about I read out the names and you come up. Look, you've been volunteered for it, mate. You've got to do the creative part. I'll just thank the people. How could I use the horse name generator to make this work? Is there a random invention generator? Let's try.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Random invention generator. Oh, my God. It's like the second thing that came up on Google. I forgot about the horse generator. I haven't used it in ages and I love it. Okay, let's see. Which one have you clicked on? I've clicked on boardhumans.com.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Fantastic. We use AI to come up with ideas for new inventions. To be clear, the inventors below are not real. They are computer generated. Okay, yeah. Okay. It comes up with a new invention every time you press generate, and I'm just going to read the first sentence of it.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Okay. Because it comes up with a full paragraph. Yeah, it looks like it really goes into like the mechanics of the patent and things like this. But I'm just going to read first sentence. Yeah, to sum up what it is. That's right. Okay, first thank you this week, goes out to K. Leen from Bradford in Great Britain.
Starting point is 01:46:11 And Kaleen has invented the methanol regent, which is a way of reducing the toxicity and damage due to high levels of sulphur. Wow. That sounds like it would be really helpful. That really does. So, good job. Kaleen. It could be Kalyann. Now I'm looking at that name again. Let me have a look. That's Kalyan, baby. Yeah, yes. I'm sorry. Kalyann from Bradford. We think you're great.
Starting point is 01:46:36 So next up I would like to thank from Dubbo in New South Wales. It's Catherine Bain. Okay, I'm reading this verbatim. My invention is named the B-Wave, which I am pleased to present here today. So I will read the second sentence for this one. Okay. The B-Wave is a device for wireless computing without the need of costly components. The B-Wave.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Invented by Catherine Bain. Can you believe it? Cername with B. So that's good stuff. That makes sense. On New Catherine? The Bain Wave would be better. Oh, the Bainwave.
Starting point is 01:47:05 Great. Next up, thank you to Joe Bedworth, or Joe Bedworth, from Worcester. My invention is named a transeptor, which I am the first person to do. I have done so in such a way that I have a new name for it. It's called a transeptor, and the name is called transeptor of the body or transeptor of the mind. The new name for the transepter is the transceiver of the body, when he gives instructions to a man to put on a new hat. The hat was made with a transeptor made from a piece of cloth called a hemipod.
Starting point is 01:47:45 It is said that the hat was attached to a tube that ran from the head on the hat to the head on the transeptor. I think that one's nice and clear. That is fantastic work, Joe Bedworth. I know I said first sentence, but that one really got away from me. But it was like, I call this new transeptor, the transeptor. That's good stuff. Thank you to, now this person hasn't given a certain name, so we hope you know who you are.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Sean. Sean. Also, it could be seen, but I think it's probably Sean. Where's Sean from? From Sky in Victoria. Ah, yes. Sky in Victoria, thank you, Sean. Inventor of.
Starting point is 01:48:25 The stroke switch. For use with a battery that is connected to a device attached to the front of a car and connected to a wire to the rear of the car. car. While driving the battery that is connected to the rear of the car's rearview mirror is charged to generate electricity that generates power to heat up the car's air compressor units. Why is the review mirror involved in electricity in any way? I don't think it needs to be at all. Love it. But I'm not an inventor. Exactly. I don't understand these things. Most of these inventions like we say come from accidents. So they somehow routed the electricity through the review
Starting point is 01:49:03 mirror and made it work. I don't have a science brain. So, I don't understand it. That doesn't mean it's not helpful. Her way to judge. Exactly right. I would like to thank now from Albuquerque in New Mexico, Lydia Valentine. Inventor of?
Starting point is 01:49:19 Hole for a shield. Hull for a shield. After purchasing some parts and following the directions provided by the patent attorney, I was able to obtain this patent on July 192010. Great work. Patent states that an insulating layer may come into contact with a wall, surface or other barrier and that is not covered by a shield. I love that.
Starting point is 01:49:46 A hole for a shield. I always thought that, like, you don't want a hole in your shield. But what if you just have a hole? For a shield. In place of a shield, you just have a hole. Have you thought about that? I haven't. What I have now, Lydia Valentine.
Starting point is 01:50:01 Next up from Denver, Colorado. Big shout out to Ryan King. My invention is named Plantation Control Machine. Okay. The invention is described in detail below and should be known to anyone who has ever read the invention, but may not realize it. AI, I think, is a way off taking all of our jobs.
Starting point is 01:50:23 I'm happy about it, to be honest. This invention, as described below, is a method of controlling water on plant roots. I guess that makes sense for a plantation control machine. Yeah, there you go. There you go. I'll be happy with that? Do you want me to generate another one?
Starting point is 01:50:39 Nope, love it. I absolutely love it. Plantation control machine. Next up from Alston in Massachusetts. Sorry to say it incorrectly. Big shout out to Hannah Lautauwassa. Invention, the neural motor motor motor. That you can use to create...
Starting point is 01:50:57 You can use it to create an electronic device called the smart motor. The smart motor is a small device that is connected to a smartphone or other mobile device. The device acts like a smartphone, but it also acts like a smartphone. You can't argue with that. You can't argue with it. And we thank the invention generator for sharing its wisdom with us.
Starting point is 01:51:23 And we thank Hannah Lortar Wassau. For the neural motor motor. Wow. I would like to thank from Williamstown here in Melbourne, Colleen Duncan. I'd love to have a beer with Colleen. Well, Colleen invented the electrical, rechargeable battery charging system. Any questions?
Starting point is 01:51:44 I think is self-expunatory, but I will finish a sentence. Which can charge a battery of any type, including electric, hydroelectric, hydrogeot, and other devices with such charge. The electrical rechargeable battery charging system. I take my head off to that. I think that's an important invention and a step forward. Thank you, Colleen. And finally, for us this week, I would like to thank from Dora Creek in New South Wales. Big shout out to inventor Lucinda Farrell.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Lucinda invented electro-electro-Laser sensor. They really love the double-up. They do. They love the double-up. Which can be used to measure energy at a certain time and for controlling lasers in a certain way. Electro-electro-Laser sensor used to measure energy at a certain time. And I don't know if that means only like once a day. Does it work to measure energy?
Starting point is 01:52:39 Or you can like say, I want to measure the energy at 4 o'clock this afternoon. Not sure. But it can also control lasers in a certain way, which it does not, it does not, you know, expand on. Yeah, okay. But we can, we trust that it's all above board. The only thing left to do is check in on our trip ditch club, which is our Hall of Fame, our clubhouse. that have been supporting the show on the shoutout level or above for three consecutive years.
Starting point is 01:53:07 We've already given them a shout out in the past, but to enshrine them and do go on history and thank them for their continuing service, we invite them into our basketball, our Hall of Fame, our clubhouse, where it's a hangout zone. Yeah. It's a cafe, it's a restaurant. Yep. It's a bar. It's a theater.
Starting point is 01:53:25 It's a theater restaurant. It's a theater restaurant. I'm behind the bar. I've got food and snacks for you. I am going to be serving the Betty White cocktail. Michelle accidentally invented. I accidentally invented a perfect toastie. I won't tell you what's in it.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Oh my gosh. Because I haven't got the Peyton yet. But let me tell you, the flavor combos will blow your freaking mind. So I got that. You usually book a band as well, Dave. Oh, yeah. You're never going to believe if I've got this one. You will never believe.
Starting point is 01:53:55 One of my all-time favorite bands performing one of my all-time favorite albums, the Canadian band themselves. Alexis on fire are here to perform in full. And this is, I booked this at this, obviously months ago. Wow. And I just requested this album because it's one of my favorite. Their second album, In Full, the album is called Watch Out and it opens with the track, Accidents.
Starting point is 01:54:19 Wow. And that was an accident. That is crazy. Can you believe that? I can't. I won't. So without Matt here. I refuse.
Starting point is 01:54:30 So there's out. What a band. What a band. So normally it's Matt's job. He lives. the velvet rope, lets people into the club, ticks them off the checklist.
Starting point is 01:54:38 Yes. You hype them up. I hype you up. I think this time I will read the names. I'll check them off the list. You hype them up and then I'll still hype you up. So it is still a lot of work for me. And I want to preface again that I was hit by car.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Maybe we could get some sort of like machine that lifts the velvet rope up. One of our great inventors could come up with something. Oh, yeah. I won't be able to actually lift the rope. People will have to do that themselves. You'll have to limbo. I've got bruised ribs. But are you ready to welcome some people in?
Starting point is 01:55:05 I'm so ready. Okay, well first up, I would love to welcome in from Silmar in California, Silmar, one of those. Frankie E. Frankie E. Frankie E. Thank you, ye. Oh, he's good. Oh, he's good. That's good.
Starting point is 01:55:21 That's good, about good, everyone. From Seattle, Washington, it's Matthew Abad. More like Matthew A good. Oh, it was right there. Matthew A. Great. Oh, my God, even better. Let me upgrade you. Oh.
Starting point is 01:55:33 And finally, just the three this week from Fitzroy North here in Melbourne in Victoria. Dean called well. More like Dean called great. Hell! Well's not good enough for me, Dean. How you doing? Pretty well. I want to make you pretty great.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Pretty great. That sounded creepy. I want to make you pretty great. That sounded awful. No, we do. I know what you mean. You're fine. You've been hit by a car.
Starting point is 01:55:56 I've been hit by a car. And I deserve sympathy. You've done so well. I deserve sympathy and pity. I've done two full episodes today. I'm brave. You're so brave. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:56:04 Thank you for your service. To podcasts. Do you think anyone's going to? There'll ever be a time in the future where someone is like knighted or given like one of those MBEs or whatever for services to podcasts? If it's not us, I'll think it's the wankiest thing to ever happen. But if we're going to be like, Prime Minister, thank you so much. Thank you for acknowledging our hard work. It was tough spending all those years catching up on a weekly basis with two of our closest friends.
Starting point is 01:56:31 and sharing a laugh and telling some stories, but we did it for the nation and the world. We changed this country for the better. Oh, I mean, you could put us on money if you would assist. The 10, oh, come on, we're worth more than that. There's three of us, for God's sake. But yeah, there you go. Well, that's everything that we need to do, isn't it, Dave?
Starting point is 01:56:51 That is absolutely it. Thank you so much for listening this far, everyone. We absolutely appreciate and love you all. And if people want to get in contact with us, Jess, we have a website. What's that all about? It's do-goonpod.com, and you can find information about live shows. You can see all the podcasts in our podcast network. We've got a few of them now.
Starting point is 01:57:11 And, yeah, you can find merch, everything you need, all in one handy location. Yeah, one look at, including your tickets to our upcoming Christmas show. Yes. Saturday, December 2nd here in Melbourne, 4.30. We're back doing an afternoon show, so hopefully can come along, spread the Christmas joy. Yeah, go to dogoonpod.com. and find tickets there. We'll be back next week
Starting point is 01:57:31 with our fourth most requested Block Buster Tobe special but until then I'll say thank you so much and goodbye. Ladies, bye! I'll see by a car.
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