Two In The Think Tank - 420 - The Real Men In Black

Episode Date: November 8, 2023

You've probably seen Will Smith and Tommy Lee-Jones in the movie, but did you know that some people claim to have had REAL encounters with the REAL 'Men In Black'? This week Matt investigates this mysterious organisation and our great pal Alasdair Tremblay-Birchall joins us for the ride.This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 05:35 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our merch: https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING: Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey everybody, Jess and Dave, just jumping in really quickly at the top here to make sure that you are across all the details for our upcoming Christmas show. That's right, we are doing a live show in Melbourne Saturday December the 2nd, 2023, our final podcast of the year, our Christmas special. It's downstairs at Morris House, which usually be called the European beer cafe. On Saturday December the 2nd, 2023 at 4.30pm, come along, come one, come all, and get tickets at do of Dugo One. My name is Dave Wonke and as always I'm here with Mr. Matt Stewart. Hey Dave, how's it going? Good thanks how are you? Oh man so good. Actually that makes me think of a question. How good is it to be alive? Well I don't

have the answers but someone who might have the answers this week is a very special guest. Returning to the podcast, Alistair Trumblybote. Thank you and answer your question, Matt. It's fine. Yeah. That goes into me life. Fine to feel alive. I prefer to not being alive, but it's also not completely filled with absolute endless beauty and joy. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You're a big, you're a big everything is joyful. Can I go? Yeah. Uh, which one? No, I'm the joy girl. Are you the joy guy? But they to be fair, haggard to spare life. You've never answered the question. We don't know. Well, it's a rhetorical question. I think implied in the question is that it is very good. Oh, how good is it? Yeah. That's true. It's like our friends, uh, football podcast,

John Dusha's a podcast called, how good is foodie? You know, hearing that gun, well, it's like our friend's football podcast, John Dusha's podcast called How Good Is Foodie. You know, hearing that gun, will do they like it or not? Oh, it's true. I thought that the whole point of listening to the podcast was that eventually at the end, they'd discover whether or not it's good. Oh, okay, yeah. They haven't got there yet. Usually, our regular co-host, Jess Perkins, who is away this week, would say,

I wish I was never born. Yeah, and I'm the middle ground, but that's you this week. So I guess I should say, I wish I was never born. Happy now. And we pray for Bob because. We do pray for Bob. Yeah, I hope she's well, her bold, uh, or Bopperka is doing well. You're looking for a spot on your across the line. Bopperka, uh, Bopkins. Bopperka, Bopkins. Hey Dave, uh, John explain how the show works.

What do you think? I'll, should. Uh, but Al, you're happy to explain how. Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll go across the line. Boppika, Bopkins. Boppika, Bopkins. Hi, Dave. Do you wanna explain how the show works? What do you think Owl should? But Owl, you happy to explain how it works? Yeah, I'll give it a go. Well, you know, every week, you know,

one of us writes a report and we present it to the other contestants. Great, you have a love on it. And, you know, but at the moment, it's block. It's block, tober, right? It is. And these are the top 100 most voted for stories, and we're only doing 10 of them probably. We're doing nine.

Not on the top nine. Big vote, thousands of people voted. Thousands upon thousands, even. Yeah. And today we're on, this is number four. Yeah, the fourth most voted for topic. This had over 28% of the vote You could vote for more than one topic. Yeah, sure. That's pretty close to the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere

Well, there you go That's funny because this week's topic is oxygen in the atmosphere Wow had 28.55% of the vote And we get on a topic with a question out Mm-hmm, and'm going to ask that question now. Dave vaguely probably remembers the topic, but he doesn't know exactly. You don't have any ideas of the top ideas. All right. Well, you have first go then, Al. Okay. My question is, guess the movie based on the cast, and I'll read them, you know, the star's last. I'll go up the order, down the order. Right, here we go.

Here we go. Starting like guy and car number four. No, I've heard of all these, but what a cast it is. Vern Troyer. Well, Buzz in when you think you know the answer. Austin Powers. Okay, Dave's locked out. How do you get?

Can't do I have to go now? No, you can't do that. David Cross. Okay. Tony Shaloub. Holy willy. Rip Torn. Okay, Vincent Denofrio, Paul Mansman's Fawn, Linda Thierrentino, Tommy Lee Jones,

Smetted Black, it is Managed Black! It's meant in black. It is meant in black. Oh, well done. Oh, wait, did you say David Cross or did you say, oh, I think I thought you said Ross from Friends. That's why I was like, wait, he's not in Men in Black? He turned down the lead role though, finally enough. Really? Yeah, apparently. It's a little smith. I think so.

Who? Ross from Friends. I think I read that. I think a woman said was going to be the Will Smith character in Man in Black. That is awesome. That would have been such an alternate universe. I think Trump wouldn't have become president.

Yes, somehow. Will Smith made that happen? According to CBR.com, it's going to do a long run up here, isn't it? Get to the friends. Imagine David Schwimmer doing the Man in Black rap. I know, yeah. Oh, the good guys. Dress in black.

Remember that. In case we ever feast a feast and make contact. Yeah, it says, I mean, you know how these articles go. It talks about everything, but the topic until somewhere deep in it. But it says, a friend's act almost started in Man in Black. The Man in Black franchise could have looked a lot different with a friend's star nearly grabbing Will Smith's role in the franchise.

Oh my God, is it gonna be? And it's a big picture. It's funny they're keeping it a secret because there's a big photo of David Schwimmer. Look at it be. Is it gonna be? But then I think they would have had to go for a kind of different guy for the Tommy Lee Jones character.

Yeah, Will Smith. You know. Yeah. I don't remember. You know. Yeah. I don't think I remembered David Cross. In it, once I read it, I remembered Tony Shaloub. I've been singing Denofrio, played that great farmer. I think that guy needs a spin off. I actually think about that character a lot.

Yeah, so good. Needs sugar and water. Water. Yeah. So yes, we're talking about men in black today. Wow The film franchise was actually based on a comic book series created by Laul counting ham. Wow Laul Wow

Hello W. A. W. L. Laul. Wow. Is that the same as the Sufjan Stevens album? Carry on Laul it must be is it must just be a regular name? Maybe his parents. I mean it just I Wow. Is that the same as the Sofjohn's album, Carrie and Laugh? It must be. It must just be a regular name. Maybe his parents' name. I mean, it just, it worries me that I've never heard this name set out loud.

Yeah, Carrie and Laugh. It's not Lowell in any way. It might be Lowell. Oh, well, as an American. A North American. Sure. Can you have a lowell in Hardy? Yes.

On the front, you had a pronounced out of the same thing. Yeah, but it probably is Lowell and Hardy? Yes. I never knew how to pronounce that. I love this. Yeah, but probably is a Lowell. I've just always, it's one of those ones I've done the other headset out loud. Lowell. Anyway, yeah. So beautiful name, either way. Let's be honest.

The, the comics were originally published in 1990 by Aircell. Aircell was later required by Malibu comics, which was then in turn bought by Marvel comics. So it's technically, it's a Marvel comic book movie. Yeah, great. So they could have been an in-game. Yeah, yeah. But I think Cousonio and the rights, you know, our Marvel sold out, May so on an episode years ago told us about how Marvel to keep the wolves from the door, whatever that saying is, had to sell off the right,

move your rights a lot of the products, including Man in Black. The comics have a darker tone than the action comedy films it inspired. The comic book series features two main characters, like the movies Agent K and Agent J, who are government agents responsible for monitoring and dealing with the extra terrestrial

and paranormal threats to Earth. The success of the comics eventually led to the development of the men in black film franchise, which began with the 1997 movie made by Sionie Starring, Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones. The films took the basic premise and characters from the comics, but infused them with a more comedic and action-oriented style.

Right, that's why they got Schwimmer. They thought action, I thought we got to get Rasa Action Comedy. Schwimmer's the man. Yeah, I would have loved to see that bit where he jumps off a bridge and then lands on the top of that open air bus. I think it just doesn't feel like a real Schwimmer move.

Yeah, that must have just had a very different picture in their minds initially. Like a guy who wasn't in any way athletic and good for the role. Like, you know, good for like, you know, they would have gone, oh, we need a guy like you on our, but maybe there could have been these opportunities to like, you know, the few Marvel people have really buffed up. Yeah, sure.

And I'm like, oh, I can't believe how hot and ripped they are. Come on, I was actually in the fourth man in black film. The international one. Yeah, yeah, right. Does he play a villain or a good guy? I don't know. Well, the good guy is stressing black. Remember that.

Well, yeah, I guess it depends on your perspective. Whether they're the good guys or not. Right, I guess, yeah. Because they're like the cops in a way. Yeah, sort of. Yeah. But yeah, some think that they're basically their job is to hide the truth from your average Joe's.

So do you think as an average Joe yourself, do you think that's what a good guy would do? Hide the truth from you? Well, I think that, you know, one of the few things that would actually, you know, one of the few facts that I could hear that would make me joyful and even cry is finding out that there is another alien, like another species that exists from another planet and that they have made it here. I think both those facts together, one would bring the joy and then the other one would make be cry. Yeah, yeah. From joy? It could be, it could be from, yeah, it could be like joy cry.

Yeah, I love what? Yeah, it could be a sad cry or a scared cry if you're finding out when an alien's about to kill you Yeah, yeah, please please I mean, we all do sort of you know, we've all had parents at one stage Yeah, and I've got a cousin out in Maine Connecticut That's a place I don't know I'm panicking here That's the loud Connecticut Not sure I don't think I if I died now and I don't know how to pronounce loud for sure I'm gonna become a ghost

And I want to go with unfinished business. I'll have to haunt you. You don't want that. You don't want that I want that. I just caught him dead. Just let me live. I mean, alien, I could go skim probably follow aliens to anywhere in the universe. Yeah, it's gonna be a huge pain in the ass. I'm annoying. As you can tell, I'm David Schwimmer.

That would have just been a totally different movie right? Cause I was reading recently, you know how Frazier's been rebooted. Yeah. Initially they wanted to have David hired PS back as Niles, Frazier's brother. And they were going to be, the idea was they were going to be in Seattle running a black box theater. But they couldn't get David Hyde Pierce, he didn't want to reprise the role. So instead, they got Will Smith. It said they got Will Smith and David Schwimmer. But instead they're like the show just set changed entirely and now it's set back in Boston

and he's a Harvard professor. You know, they're like, if we can't have Schwimmer, that story doesn't work. So I imagine that David Schwimmer would have been the same. It would have just been a less actiony film. Yeah, the men in black was gonna be men in a black box theater. Yeah, Schwimmer said no, they said all right. We gotta rewrite, it's gonna be about aliens.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So can I play a paleontologist who has a little monkey called Marcel? He was very can on that. We've talked about this in a promise episode. He hated that monkey. Did he? Yeah, he hated that.

It's crazy that he was demanding it for his movie. It was in the actor, Schwimmer hated it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hated acting hated that monkey. Did he? Yeah. He hated that monkey. It's crazy that he was demanding it for his movie. It was in the actor, swimmer hated it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hated acting with the monkey. Was it easy hated being upstairs? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Probably. I think that it might just be that traditional American

distaste for the French. Oh, yeah. And the French monkey. Yeah, well they call them surrender monkeys, I mean, Americans call the French. Chees eating surrender monkeys? That's not my term. No. That's you and your country's term.

No, sorry. I'm from Canada. You're from the French Canada. You can't do that. I'm doing it with French people, right? Je parle français. Je disais que j'ai messeurs. How do you say chees eating surrender monkeys?

I don't know how to say surrender in French, which is very strange. I don't have a word for it. It's more of a nod over there. Just come on. Yeah, I'm just coming out. All right, what are we talking about? We're talking about the film, the many black. All right, so the original film has Will Smith playing

a police officer who arrests a criminal, but that criminal turns out to be an alien. This leads him to being a child and then recruited by a secret government agency known as The Man in Black, or The Mib. Am I being? And they have the Mib of the town. And they have a little Mib on the back. Right out of a hidden office in New York City.

The Mib is staffed by a group of specially trained agents who are responsible for policing and monitoring extraterrestrial activity on Earth. These agents are known by their code names, got Agent K, played by Tommy Lee Jones, and Smith gets the code name Agent J. It's weird to think get one K before J. I'm not going down the alphabet here.

Yeah, but also it's weird that they've created a system where they can only have a maximum of 26 agents. K1. Yeah, you think, yeah, once Will Smith was coming in, they'd be like, all right, your Agent 7B6KJ, you know, like number plates now. Totally. When I was a kid, it was three letters, three numbers, and they've run out of those.

So now they're having to do like number, letter, letter, and number, whatever. I mean, you can tell, at least with the MI5, they did 007. You know that they could get at least 999 agents. But it's not 007, Dave, you'll know this is a bond guy. Is that the letters O, 007? Or is that the number 007? Think it's not 007, Davey, you'll know this is a Bond guy. Is that the letters O 007? Or is that the number 007?

I think it's 007. Okay. But I mean, that would actually be better because then you could, that's a base 26 number system, essentially. Right. So then you would get, you know, 26, 26, and then only nine are the last one. Yeah. But that's way more permutations.

So maybe that's why they've done it anyway. So their primary mission for the men in black is to monitor and regulate extraterrestrial immigrants living on earth ensuring that they adhere to the laws and do not pose a threat to humans. This includes regulating alien immigration, tracking criminals from other worlds and preventing any public disclosure of extraterrestrial existence. An ifty device they use is called the Neuralizer and it is able to erase the memories of all those who have witnessed extraterrestrial events or creatures. The first film was a box office success making nearly $600 million off a $90 million budget,

Sess making nearly $600 million off a $90 million budget, which led to three sequels, including the two sequels with Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones and then a third sequel, which was the International one with Australia's own Chris Hemsworth of course. Oh, that's a god about that. Yeah, I never saw that one. I've still know. Yeah, I was actually a really big M.I.B. a Mibhead myself. Yeah, yeah. I referred to my head as a nib at the time. Yeah. You're a Mib-Nib. I was a bit of a Mib-Nib. So yeah, they had the three sequels, an animated spin-off video games, and of course, a couple of hit singles

by Star Will Smith, including the titular men in black from the first film and from the second film, Tad to forget, black suits come and brackets nod your head. And that second one didn't do that well in America, but made the top 20 in Australia and as high as number two in the lucrative Dutch market. Wow, the Dutch love it. The Dutch love it. Yeah, but it's not a whole. It's a very nod heavy country.

You think France, you know, with the surrendering. Sorry, surrending was, I'm not used to using a word for it. Shout out to our French listeners out there. I don't really have a position on this. Shamex, goose. When do the, what are the famous French countries or people? Tom's day surrendered. The famous surrender. I mean, I think, you know, I think the famous one that people refer to, it's got to do with the Second World War. But of course they

had they had endured such tremendous losses during the first world war. Yeah, yeah, right. I don't think there was a huge appetite for fighting another one. Gotcha. So a few years later. But that's all I know. That's all I really know. Yeah. I think the American show-and-a-half that attitude did that.

That's true. That's true. Just thinking about Will Smith here, I forgot that Man in Black, it's the debut single, also off his debut album big Willie style Man in black is the from big Willie style. Yeah, didn't really release June 97 is that the international relicers that it's just according to the Wikipedia door which is of course Wow, Will Smith's Wikipedia. It's the debut solo single of American rapper and actor Will Smith because he had other singles with jazzy Jeff Yes, that's right.

There you go. But this is before, this is not him as fresh prince anymore, right? This is him as Will. As Will. Now I'm Will. Yeah. Now I'm Will. So, you said, Will, I am.

Will I am. Yes, he is. I think that's when he came out and said to the world, yeah. I am Will. Yeah. Will I am will. Yeah will I am Is this the beginning of green eggs and ham? I can't believe a big willy style. Yeah, that's so great. It is for you. And then he had willenium Wow in 99 did he rip off will listen? Yeah, geez

That's probably the worst thing he's ever done. Yeah, probably. I mean, but also, wasn't he a guy like to have an album called Big Willy-South? Wasn't he also a guy who said that he had slept around so much in the last 25 years or whatever that now the, like actually orgasming, orgasming makes him physically sick. Oh, yeah.

Think of something like that? Oh, yeah, that's how you make him hate he does feel queasy or something like that. Yeah. Just like the opposite of what a Norga is in this form right. This is a mod of Ben Watten Spide, his collab with Billy Ocean in 1989 called I sleep much better brackets in someone else's bed. Yeah. I mean it was trying to tell us. Yeah. It was trying to tell us the other problem. was trying to tell us he had a problem. Yeah, but he might also just have had a bad mattress. Oh, yeah, that's true.

And he had, yeah, he was friends with Captain Snooze. Yeah. He was sleeping, he's like, Friends with benefits. With Captain Snooze. Breaking into a bed shop every night. So that was, that's probably the most famous of the Men in Black stuff.

But Dave, you'll know a bit about this. The Men in Black also feature in the X-Files series a bit. Oh yeah. Yeah, I don't think they, they're sort of in the background. They'll rock up at scenes and stuff. And they played less for laughs and in the film franchise. The agents had depicted a sinister and intimidating government operatives working with suppress information

relating to aliens and other government operatives working with suppress information relating to aliens and other government conspiracy. Yes, I'm not like it's sort of like a mini army sort of shows up with machine guns and just start to start shooting shit. Yes. Like the start of the rebooted series in like 2016 or whatever, I guess they were those guys that

rock up to the UFO crash site. Yeah. They're in black. They're gun ho. Yes. But my question is, what are they doing all day long, those people? Are you sitting around with your machine gun by waiting for the government to call and say,

hey, people are finding out about aliens. You got to go now. A lot of paperwork. Yeah. It sounds like it would be a lot more like being a fireman. You're just kind of waiting, but you're just living at the station or whatever. Yes, but in your suit.

In your suit. In your suit. Yeah, you're doing that. Like mid-poles. Yeah, but a lot of plane cars in your suit. In your suit. Yeah, you're doing that. Like mid-poles. Mib. Yeah, yeah, they got a lot of mid-poles. Yeah, but they climb up it. Oh, yeah.

That's just that's the only difference. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, and it's also quite efficient because they live downstairs at the fire station. Yeah. So they get a two for one. So it's more hidden, you know, because it's a secretive. Yeah, yeah. No one's expecting you to be down there. So they get a two for one. So it's more hidden. Yeah. It's just a secretive. Yeah, yeah.

No one's expecting you to be down there. Do the ones in X-Files have any Neuralizers or do they use bullets to wipe your memory? I think they use bullets from what I can remember. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. Don't worry, you won't remember any of this after I put this in you.

Yeah. But that's the thing. I think in MIB movies, they seem to have incredible technology for monitoring alien activity and things like that. But how would you do it if you don't have stuff like Neuralizers, then you probably don't have great monitoring crash sites and things like that. Yeah. I think, well, maybe I just don't tell us about the Neural Islands. Yeah, because they probably got the alien technology from the aliens, and now they're trying to

use that technology to keep us unaware of the technology. Yeah, sure. Anyway, none of that is today's topic. Oh, we're not talking about some ridiculous fictional characters. Today we're here to talk about the real men in black. What? That they are based on. And this topic was suggested by Josh from York in North Yorkshire,

Lewis Faustone from Sheffield UK, and Aaron Wolff from Daytona Beach. Now when you see the real men in black, do you mean Johnny Cash? Yes. Talking about Johnny Cash. I'm talking about the hives. They're the men in white and black. But you know, you got to have a... I'm talking about the saints, the men in Red and White and Black. Yeah. The men team. Sure, sure, sure, sure.

So yeah, we're going to talk about anyone who's ever worn black and is a man. Great. So it's going to be a low one, strap yourselves in. But we're going to start actually by talking about this group, sort of a shady group, something that might be involved in the government called the Man in Black or the Mib before we go on to the Hives and other things. Okay, okay, okay, it's a good starting point.

And the concept of the Man in Black can be traced back to the 1940s. What was happening then? Oh, flappers, what are they, 20s? Ah, flappers are the dancing thing? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably the old rock. I reckon was still kicking in the 40s. Yeah, still off. Yeah, bit of, is it Art Deco we're on? It's a bit after that. Yeah, it's not after that.

It's close to Art Deco, but Art Nouveau. Oh, yeah, could have been Art Nouveau. Art Nouveau, I mean, that's similar thing, but we could also talk about World War Two. Oh, World War Two. Yeah, World War Two, Foo Fighters. Fitzroy's last ever partnership in 1944. Oh, they're gone right now. Yeah, they've been swallowed by Brisbane. Oh, the lines in the past.

So the lines in Fitzroy. They were the bears. Yeah, right. Whose mascot was a koala. Anyway, the concept of Man in Black, 1940s, this all started to come to light in the 50s when Gray Barker released a book titled They New Too Much About Flying Sources. This was released in 1956 and it details accounts of those who claim to have had encounters with aliens before getting visited by strange men in dark suits.

Oh! Kodna Ostsen Harvey, writing for all that's interesting, from Barker's account, the first mention of men in black can be traced back to June 27, 1947, and a man named Harold Dahl, in what came to be known as the Mori Island UFO incident. Kodna Dahl's account account he was on a conservation mission gathering logs with his son Charles near the eastern shore of Mori Island in Washington in I want to say Puget Sound or is it Puget Sound

So that man, I see Puget. It doesn't mean anything to me. I'm French Puget Puget Puget Puget Puget And as he was working Dahl, he saw six donut-shaped objects hovering in the air. Oh my god, flying donuts, that's awesome. Oh, those would go great on a saucer. Yeah. That's what the saucers were for. Yeah. Just below, we're flying saucers. And they were roughly half a mile above his boat. Before he could make any sense

of what he was seeing, one of the objects fell from the sky. According to Justin Sabblich, run if a history.com, this was followed by a reigning metallic debris, some of which hit dial son Charles on his arm, as well as the family dog who didn't survive the ordeal. Oh my gosh. Dial was able to take some pictures of the aircraft with his camera, which he later showed to his supervisor, Fred Krizman. Krizman was skeptical. So he went back to the scene to look for himself. I guess not that skeptical, otherwise you'd be like, that didn't happen. Sure. I'm going to continue with the thing I'm doing.

Yeah. He was eyes a little open-minded. He went back to the scene and when he went back he himself saw a strange aircraft with his very own eyes. What? What was it made out of his eyes? Yeah, yeah. It looks like egg white. Yeah, I think it was egg. Egg white eyes. The following morning, Dar was visited by a man in a black suit. They went to a local dhana. And it was just one man. So it was a man in black. Man in black. Yeah, it was Johnny Cash. Yeah.

Yeah. He said, it starts with one. Hello, Dahl. I'm Johnny Cash. Let's go to the dhana. Tell him about his alien. You won't see nothing. So they go to this local dhana.

The man in black takes them there. Johnny Cash himself. Quite generous. And the man in black recounts in spot on detail, to dial what dial had just experienced. He said, I know what happened to you, you saw some donuts in the sky. Your dog got hit, it's dead. Your son got hit on the arm, told him all the details. And then he said, what I have said is proof to you that I know a great deal more about

this experience of yours than you will want to believe. A dull was told not to speak of the incident and told that if he did bad things would happen. Damn. I mean, is a different method. Usually I imagine that they go to them. You didn't say anything, but he's gone. You did say something. And this is what you saw.

Yeah, and I don't tell anyone. And I know so much, I probably did it. I was probably trying to kill your dog. Yeah, it does feel like I'd like have no data that happened. Yeah, this definitely, this is really, you were probably questioning what you saw yesterday. Let me tell you what. You were trying to find some kind of explanation.

Well, there isn't one. You might be feeling a little crazy right now. You're not. You should tell everyone. This is a big deal. They were actual donuts. Don't do that. Sabblitz continues saying, the supposed events of Moriard

have continued to fuel conspiracy theories to this day. In particular, the mention of the black suit, which would evolve into a key obsession for UFO enthusiasts and spread into American popular culture as the men in black. So great, but also like men wearing black suits. Particularly in that era, I imagine that's not that. Yeah, even like yeah, even probably until like,

not that long ago where you'll get all sorts of colored suits. Yeah, that's amazing. And maybe in the. Yeah, even like, yeah. Even probably until like, not that long ago, where you'll get all sorts of color suits. Yeah, that's amazing. And maybe in the 60s, they probably did as well. But I would imagine there were a lot of times in where a guy would have one suit and it'd be a black suit. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It was black reserved for funerals.

And then maybe there's more like gray and brown, you know? Oh, yeah, no, yeah, good point. So maybe, but maybe that's the perfect, that's the perfect, like, you know, cover. Because then you see a guy in a black suit, you know, I won't bother him. Yeah, he's probably, he's probably bereaving. Exactly. He's probably having a bereavement, right? Yeah, he's probably a bereaver.

He's a bereaver. Hey, you're bereaving. I'm a bereaver. Oh, yeah. I'm a bereaver. And then I was in a perfect, it was dead. Now I'm a bereaver. I'm a bereaver. I was a bereaver person. It was a bereaver person. I drove past a funeral yesterday and it made me think, you know, that is the thing.

You wear black to a funeral. What about the white lady's funeral? So they're all out there in this spotless white outfit. It's like a kick in the teeth, isn't it? They want to stand out. Yeah. It's who's in charge of this funeral. Wait, yeah.

The funeral home business is brutal. And you got to be able to stand out and being a white lady really helps. So yeah, it's an odd one. White lady funerals. But it's big here. Is that an international thing or is that? No, that's just one of us.

I've heard of comedians coming here as being like, what the fuck? I was like, what the fuck? I think about it. My grandmother, it was a what lady. Had a funeral with what lady funeral? Yeah, well that makes sense again. Target market.

Yeah, so weird. What do you think about it? It's a kind of joke that American or English creatives come over and say similar to the and you've got your prime minister died drowning. And then you named a pool after. Yeah. I love that one too. There's so many cafes and I think that I do pretty well in an alleyway here. I kinda saw. Yeah, that's good stuff. And then, but then, but honestly, you got great coffee here.

Yeah, round of applause. Yes. Thanks so much. Thank you. I was told to say this. Okay, anyway, so many black. Well, many black so far. But then we had got called Kenneth Arnold and around the same time it was only three days later

after the Moriel and incident. This guy who was a pilot also had a UFO sighting. This was on June the 24th 1947 near Mount Rainier, Washington and according to Sablish, even though it was three days later, it was the first widely reported siding and it kicked off source of sensation. Oh my god. Wow. Yeah. Arnold was contacted by a Chicago magazine editor. So Darle apparently went to this Chicago magazine trying to sell the story.

And the Chicago magazine editor is like, well, I know that this guy, Kenneth Arnold, has seen one. So I'll call him to corroborate the story. And then once Arnold got contacted, he in turn invited to Army Intelligence Officers to help investigate Darl and Christmas claim. And then in July of 1947, the two Army Intelligence Officers came to interview Dale in an effort to gather information. After leaving, though, in their B-25 the next day, the plane caught fire and crashed. Whoa! Killing both officers and doing nothing to quiet UFO conspiracists. Wait, so even insiders, military insiders have been...

Let's not sugarcoat this. even insiders, military insiders have been, let's not sugarcoat this, killed off, sugar. That's not sugarcoated in water. That was awful. He was the reason we have for the role of Saffama. I didn't kill my wife and sugarcoated her, right? Give me kill my wife. I didn't take her, all right. To be back my son. That's Mal Gibson, sorry.

That's Harrison, not this TV. What, what lady funeral? Oh, yeah. There was something they asked you, so the dials not killed off. But the army officers are. Yes, the two army officers who were asking questions about it. So do you think there's possibly that dial took their metal? I mean, I'm just giving you the facts. Yeah. What what you do with those?

Yeah, that's up to you. So, so I mean, but they crashed in like a just like a military aircraft. Yes. Yeah. Which are known for often like it's one of the most crashed planes of all. Right. I mean, I'm done. I'm wondering wartime. But yeah, that I could weird that they haven't get shot down. Yeah, which happens quite rarely to like commercial a lot of us. It's true. Yeah, I don't know why people have so they have it in so

so much for a military aircraft. Yeah, I have a done. Yeah. Good question. I don't know what's asking here today. I appreciate you doing that. Yeah, they know problem. According to Jacob Gears, and I think, depending on some of the articles I'm quoting from,

clearly, you know, sort of down the road mainstream articles that are just like these things happen. Gears is more of a believer, I think. Anyway, he wrote an article for Thought Catalog. Oh, sure. And he said, Dahll story definitely got the attention of various law enforcement agencies in the United States, leading the FBI to write a report on the matter. So it's like, you know, with this smoke as far, the FBI reporting on something that is just fanciful. I'm not saying either way, but just giving you the facts. Yeah.

From what I could figure out, the FBI investigated the incident. However, the findings of the FBI report were not particularly detailed or conclusive. The investigation primarily focused on the deaths of the two military officers and the possibility of the siding being a hoax. They determined that there were inconsistencies in the accounts of Harold Bale and Fred Krizman, leading to doubts about the credibility of their story. In a memo though, they didn't conclude definitively whether the incident was a legitimate UFO siding or a hoax, but they recommended no for the FBI involvement in the matter.

Sure. So I mean, I guess if you went to the, to the site, there's the possibility of whatever the aircraft is that fell. Now we haven't heard anybody mention what they found or not found there. But apart from that, if that's gone, then you're looking around, you're looking at the sky, you're going, well, there's nothing up in the sky now. So it's a really hard, you know, if the vehicle's gone, then you really don't have much. What about the dog? You know, look inside the dog.

It's probably something in there, some debris. Yeah, what kind of the dog? Yeah. If the debris was raining down, I mean, it was on a lake, maybe it'd scatter in the water and they could find it. Water, would it? Oh, water. Sugar.

Debris in water. Water. That one of that kids arm. Everyone would have, everyone this thing would have seen the original men in black would understand that reference You're doing I hope I hope because otherwise it's baffling. It's one of my favorite scenes of anything in any film Yeah, yeah, it's a great performance. Yeah, cuz he's sort of like China. He's face doesn't quite fit in properly He's trying to it's just like like fantastic

And his wife is just like anger Singing off your bones. She's really good. She has like little roles in a bunch of things. She's always very funny if I'm thinking of the right person. Yeah, you are thinking about the right person. And I just want that their story to be its own movie. Yeah, yeah. Especially as he kind of goes off and he tries to hunt down

the M-I-B guys or whatever. But I want more of that. Yeah, give us more. And water. If you're listening to David Trimmer, and I assume you're still involved. He didn't stop up to play a role, but he did get residuals. He got some points on the back end.

He got points on the back end. I don't want to roll, but I do want some points on that back end. I go on to Gears. Dal and Krizman Leida said the said the incident was in fact a hoax. What? But, but, but. Which one? The one with the dogs and the donuts.

What killed the dog? But did he go out and kill his dog? Oh my gosh. And he's covered up the story. It's a prank, guys. Have you ever had a prank? No, but then after that, he recanted years later, saying he made the first confession under duress.

The confession of it being a hoax. Okay, right. So he said, I only said it was a hoax because the man in black made me basically. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I don't know if it's a joke. I don't know if it's a joke. This one goes up a fair way. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not saying necessarily all the way to the top, but it feels like it's up in that sort of similar echelon. Yeah. Yeah. At what point you're in the president as being briefed about these things? Yeah. It's got to be around this time. Yeah. How many years after? Was this years after? Years after. Did he said it was a hoax? Uh, it wasn't too long after he said it was a hoax, but then it was many years after that. Yeah. Right. Was this probably around 1997 when he was trying to get some points on the back of the men in black films? Yeah. He wanted to find some points on the front end. Yeah. Yeah. The more you are an incident was little known until it was published in Barker's book. You know, that book about, was that long name, something like they knew too much about the Flawless sort of. But it's now seen as a very important incident,

at least to the, you know, the true believers. And this is true for another tale. This is another one of the big ones. This one involves a man named Albert K. Bender. Oh, just fantastic now. Yeah, K. Bender. K. Bender. Agent K? A K. Bender. A special K. A special K. Bender. Yeah. Yeah. Gia's calls him a doctor, but he doesn't seem to be called a doctor anywhere else, but he

I don't know. It's just my nickname for him. It's like a friend, a family friend, you get your kids to call them like Uncle? Yeah, yeah. Same thing. Sometimes if somebody's just kind of good enough to you get your kids to call them like Uncle? Yeah, yeah, same thing. Sometimes if somebody's just kind of good enough to you, you can just call them Doctor. It was a family's Doctor. Yeah.

Back to Harvey in 1952, Albert Bender created an organization known as the International Flying Source of Bureau, a short-lived project mostly known for the magazine published called Space Review. Oh, I love that. I like it. If you're gonna start a new magazine,

you don't wanna like, corny yourself in too tightly where you're like, I'm gonna run out of things to say in future issues. Space Review. Yeah. You could talk about planets, stars, space, but also just like areas within rooms. Yeah, oh, this is a beautiful space.

Yeah. I could morph into a thing where he just goes around a people's places. Oh, what a lovely space. If he's in danger of collapsing, he can turn it into an architectural interior decorating kind of place. So many options.

Yeah. Well, he says too. According to Gears, Bender was a well-written and extremely intelligent researcher. So Geis is definitely like building up his credentials as a reliable witness. In 1955, his research was about to yield serious fruit as he prepared to unveil a paper that would prove the US government had to want to grow another, cover up proof of UFOs. He planned to publish his findings in the space review. That was until he was visited by the men in black. Goodness.

Bender claims that three men dressed in all black. They've got three now. Yeah, they've budget's gone right up here. They've been recruiting. I mean, I don't know, this is probably in poor taste, but I'm just thinking about it now, but what if those two army't because didn't really die? But they had their death fate because they were Recruited into the And that makes up the three of course. You got to say about your own life. I mean this is simple math and it kind of works out actually and I got to say I'm not I'm not saying that's a yes or no. I'm just giving you the facts Yeah, yeah, but it kind of already, like it almost seems

illogical to not think that. Yeah, I think so. It was an Occan's razor that most, you know, eliminate everything else. The most likely thing, exactly. Yeah, Occan would believe. Yeah. Dr. Occan was here.

If Dr. Occan was here. So, yeah, he reckons over three men dressed in black and they visited him at his home and warned him against pursuing the topic of UFOs any further. He's like moving on architecture. Come have a look at my lounge. Yeah, it's a beautiful space. You could get a photographer, take some beautiful photos. Okay, my wife set it up in a very nice way.

And yeah, Giz says, the men left bend a scared for his life and he immediately shut down all his research and the flying saucer bureau. Straight away. Wow. Yeah. Do you think two of the guys in the men and black had really burnt skin and stuff? Maybe they also actually did go through the crash. Oh yeah. It's a it's a must believable way. Yeah. Oh, that's true.

So yeah, this is what gears, who I think is a believer, he says that's how it happened. He was about to crack this thing wide open. Oh no. Men in black came, he got so scared, he shut it all down. He's like, I know you guys cover stuff up, but I didn't think you'd cover it up with me. Yeah. This is a real surprise. Yeah, yeah.

Benjamin Radford, writing for Live Science, on the other hand, suggests that the fact that it shut down around this time might have been for a different reason, saying he offered no evidence of his encounter, and Sinek's noted that the magazine was losing money and likely would shut down soon anyway. Oh, sure. He's saying, I don't think he thought about it.

Architecture angle. Yeah, right. That's what Radford's saying. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. So, on one side, people are saying it's true. He got shut down. He was right onto it.

And other people are saying that magazine was not making any money. He was taking shit. He was tanky. He was in a lot of trouble. This would have been a really big episode. A big like, you know, what are magazine episodes called? They're called edition. Edition. It's always been a, probably the edition that could have saved the mag.

Yeah. Could have it, do you think you could have been a bumper edition? I would say bumper. You could have had a center fold. Oh, yeah. You know, of like, you know, government documents that prove sexy government, sexy government documents that allow you to cry and feel joy. Speaking of sexy government operatives, I've been listening to the audiobooks of the

90s X-Files novels. And the third one's changed author and he's started describing women in their physical attributes lawball. Yeah, really. It's sort of like a real noticeable change. I'm only in the first couple of chapters, but he's just like ever ever. Yeah, it's amazing how much like a scientist in this room, you know, how much he describes what she's wearing The white lab coat. Yeah That was a beautiful description of somebody's body Last thing I last night was that she crossed her arms across her small breasts

So okay, you probably just assume around where an arm might be crossed. Has anything sprukey happened yet? Yeah, guy, a guy, there was some sort of a nuclear fire, but it was mysterious. Nuclear fire. Well, yeah, he was doing nuclear research. Yeah. I saw that right. Yeah, research. And then all of a sudden, I just burn up and now they're investigating. They're sort of suits melt off and they're wearing bikinis underneath. Oh, no, not on laundry day. I wonder if the first author got the ask, they're like, come on. What are these gals wearing? It's not sexy enough. It's the X-Files, come on. X-Triple. The TRIPLE X.

Yeah. Anyway, so this is Bender's story. He says that it was on to something it got uncovered. He got scared off. He shut it down. Bender's story called The Attention of Grey Barker. We wrote that book. I knew too much about flying saucers.

It was me worried. I'd be so worried about flying saucers. And was he worried? I'd be so worried. He's putting it out there. Yeah, he should be worried. Grey Barker does sound like a pen man. Little Grey Man Barker. Oh my gosh, it was he's an alien. Oh my gosh.

Then Barker, the author, was the one that connected the dots between the one man in black who doll was out with the Donna and the three men in black who visited Bender. He's like, they're all men. Girl dressed in black. Wow. It could this be a secret organization. And yeah, not effectively created the idea of the men in black and then brought it to the public's attention in the broadest. Those two events. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. And we don't know whether or not they were all just bereafers.

Yeah, that's right. You know, it could have just been a coincidence that the cops, you know, because probably cops lose probably more, just probably a big higher turnover of any industry, you know. FBI, do they wear black suits? Yeah, I think they do wear black suits. Oh my god.

They're all men in black. Yeah, I mean, they could just be ages. Yeah. Well, that's what some people think that they're like just like a more secretive FBI. Maybe they don't even think secretive. Hiding in plain sight. Yeah. Yeah. That's clever. Exactly. According to Harvey, in his book, Barkerounted Bender's Experience, describing the manners in black as quote, three men in black suits with threatening expressions on their faces. Boo. Boo.

Three men who walk in on you and make certain demands. Three men who know that you know what the source is really are. As in flying sources, not the people who give them information. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, give me your sauce. Sauce or sauce? Which one do you want?

This is confusing. I mean, in this case, his sauce is the sauce. Oh my gosh. Oh yeah. To you, then they're not, yeah, those words sound alike. Don't sound alike. Don't sound alike. It's a sound alike.

Yeah. Sound alike. Sa-saster and sauce. Yesalik. Sasser and sauce. Yes. Sasser and sources. Sources. Yeah, sources, sauce and sauces. No, wait, no.

I'm not using sauces. I'd say sausages. Okay, sausages. Sausages. Sausages. Go on sausages. Yes. Right.

Then there's saucers, which can put the sausages on with the sauce. Then there's saucers. Yes, which can put the sausages off with the sauce with the sauce. Yeah. And then there's sources, which is the farmer, the butcher. Yes. Where you got these sausages from and the crockeriest, where you got the sauce or from that's right. The crockeriest. The crockerest. Is that the way you're using that? That's how we use that. I think that's clear things up. I'm going to have to go to the crockerist.

I've dropped another plate. Some have said that Bender never recovered after his meeting with the men in black. As Gears writes, many people who knew him claim that Bender was a change man after his encounter. His later works were rambly, almost unreadable, and he seemed to live his life in constant anxiety and terror. Oh, geez. Not nice. I mean, he did talk about it a lot for a guy

who seemed to be terrified at whatever. Yeah. But then I guess that's okay. He kept riding. Yeah, I think there was a little bit of time in between. After he shut down the magazine, and then he ended up riding a book about 10 years later about it. But yeah, apparently it was quite rambly.

I caught in a Radford in 1962, Bender wrote a rambling book elaborating on his experience and suggesting that his mysterious visitors may have been extra terrestrials who didn't want their existence known. The men in black were not alone. According to Bender's account, they were accompanied by three beautiful women dressed in tight white uniforms. I forgot about that. That's a bit more about these uniforms. White lady funerals? Sexy white lady funerals. That's so funny. There's no more mention of that, but it's just a funny thing that he's written that in. So it's three agents in black and then three women in white. Yeah, well, these men all getting married.

They're looking for a cellar in Vegas. Elvis was there. Oh yeah, weddings, or they could have been three bereavors that a white lady's funeral. Yeah, each with their own private white lady. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is all like, you know, a rambling novel, obviously, you know, doesn't always mean that your mind is a mess. It could also just mean you haven't got an editor.

Yeah. You're self-publishing a book. And you just got, you got a lot of stuff to get out. Yeah, well, maybe they just don't get it. Maybe it's like stream of consciousness. Exactly. Do you want to hear a little bit from of his writings? I would love to.

His is a quick paragraph. This is about the men in black. Sure. So yeah, so you, I get, I'll talk about it a bit more later, but there are people who think they're just like, like an FBI secret agency, others think they're aliens themselves. Sure.

And it sounds like Bender sits in that ladder camp, riding, they floated about a foot off the floor. They look like clergymen. Oh my God, this makes my sense for the funeral. Yeah. But war hat similar to Homburg style, which I don't know what that means. I should look better. Have you heard of Homburg style hats? No, but I mean, I don't really. I don't really had hats. Yeah. Oh yeah, they're sort of like just an old timey hat.

A Homburg is a semi-fuel hat of fur felt characterized by a single dent running down the center of the crown. In brackets brackets called a gutter crown. Ooh, they're kind of just like a fedora. Yeah, it looks like a fedora to me, but yeah, that's pretty good. Well, the poster boy seems to be Winston Churchill. This makes them seem less scary. It looks like a hat like that. But they're loading a foot off the ground.

Yeah, well, that's foot off the ground thing. That's scary, but the hat does seem a little bit silly. Yeah, the face is the he continues The faces were not clearly discernible for the hats partly hidden shaded them Which is what a good hat does. Hmm. The eyes of all three figures suddenly lit up like flashlight bulbs They seem to burn into my very soul as the pains above my eyes became almost unbearable. Sure. I guess where my theory about the no-editor thing falls down now is that some of these sort of feel like really different facts to what he said earlier where he was like three guys came and visited me, but now he's like three guys. By the way, they were hovering and their eyes

were like flashlights. Yeah, and then a bit above my eyes, hit. Do you mean your eyebrows? Like, what's going on? What's your eyebrows, sir? That's how my brows are on fire. Imagine that, like, maybe you're just so surprised. Imagine if you could just keep lifting your eyebrows so high that you dislocate your eyebrows. Oh my gosh.

I need to get someone to sort of snap them back into my eyes. Someone comes in and says, oh my God, your eyebrows aren't fine. You're like, oh, thank you so much. Yeah, no, they're on fire. Wow! And that's where the expression on fleek, on fleek, eyebrows came from. But it's from the French word for fire.

Uh, food. Is that true? Yeah, I mean, there's the French word for food. I couldn't get it close to fleek. Where's the lake? Yeah, from, you know. That's what someone trying to put them out. That's not so. Yeah.

Many see the stories of men in black as proof that aliens do exist, right? Why would they be men in black? You try to exist. Also, they are aliens. Yeah, yeah. If these aliens exist, aliens exist. Yeah, that's a good point. As Radford writes, the men in black idea was accepted by many in the conspiracy Yeah, yeah. If these aliens exist, aliens exist. Yeah, that's a good point.

As Radford writes, the men in Black Idea was accepted by many in the conspiracy prone UFO community, partly because it seemed to legitimize the truth of eyewitness reports. No matter how outlandish their story, if an eyewitness credibly claimed that he or she had been threatened, the story seemed more plausible. After all, if the story was bogus, why would the government take an interest in the eyewitnesses, much less to try to silence them? If you're a question. Yeah. I mean, also, were they living during a time

when mental health kind of, you know, facilities had the right to just basically imprison anybody who was insane? Oh yeah, maybe. I don't know. Like, there was a lot more of that kind of back in those days. I don't know if that's the case, but imagine they just go, if you keep rambling like this, fuck them bullshit, we're gonna lock you up. Yeah. And I might have been man in in cuts. And they could have been in white, because I mean, I love that

those nurses and stuff like that. I might have been the white ladies. Could have been the white ladies. They were just nurses. Yeah. And the guys were the guy who run that. Okay. Not a bad conspiracy theory. Yeah. He's ending a little bit... Coo-coo. Yeah, I'm trying to. It's working. He's another interesting story about a run-in with the men in black. This one occurs in non-in 61.

And I should say, while there are quite a few mentions of this story online, none of them are from any sort of mainstream media. Sure. This one comes from the website and I mean who am I to say this is an mainstream media website UFOinsight.com. Okay. And the writer is Marcus Loth. Marcus writes. Is that Loth or Louth? It could be Louth. It's probably Louth. Louth writes. Perhaps one of the most intriguing experiences with the men in black is that of Paul

Miller in North Dakota in November of 1961. On the night in question, Miller and three friends were returning home following a hunting trip. As they drove along the road on their way home, they noticed a strange object appeared overhead and land in a field at the roadside. As they slowed their vehicle and watched the object, at first thinking it was a plane crashing to the ground, they were all astounded to witness the object vanish into thin air. They drove off contemplating the bizarre scene they had just witnessed when the object

suddenly appeared once more. This time, however, two humanoids would step from the object. With their vehicle now brought completely to a stop, Miller stepped out and aimed his gun at the strange figures. We got to shoot it! Flaring once and appearing to wound one of them. At that point, however, with fear rising in them, the four men fled from the scene. It was only when they were approaching their hometown that they began to realize that they had lost around three hours of time. This is the thing that comes up a lot, at least it did on the ex-files.

Yeah, yeah. But I think in a lot of stories, all of a sudden the time has jumped forward. Although they attempted to make sense of the events among themselves, they agreed not to report the incident and not to speak to anyone outside of their group about it. Yeah, we're not going to tell the cops that we shot someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably makes sense. Yeah, we shot a humanoid, probably a human. Provoked. I don't know, they were approaching. They were popping towards you were popping on their own land. They were across the field. They count out of an object, a tractor. The following day, however, things took a strange turn.

Miller worked in an office for the Air Force. The following day, despite a persistent uneasy feeling about the events of the previous evening, he arrived at work as normal. Not long after, however, three strange men dressed in black suits and tyres arrived asking to speak with him, they would claim to be from the government. However, when Miller asked for identification, they simply ignored his request.

Closer. Look over there. How's your day? I'm good. Love you, man. Anyway, she was undone. They ended up like just trying to cover up the question so much that they leave. Anyway, got to go.

Nothing. So yeah, they ignored his request and then it was sighted to him that they, quote, hoped he was telling the truth about the UFO siding. And that sent a chill down his spine. Not least, as he couldn't understand how they even knew he had seen anything strange, as an answer to his question, they simply claimed they had a report quote.

He's like, I haven't told anyone about this. We all agreed we wouldn't tell anyone about this. To me, if I was him, I'd be like, Greg, yeah, he put you after this, didn't he? He's a little joke, sir. That is good. But no, he didn't seem to be just like, who are these people?

Okay, but it's not that threatening, I hope you're telling the truth about this. Yeah, which he also hadn't said anything about it, right? Oh, okay. But you probably've forgotten, I was mentioned before, but they had intimidating looks on their faces. Oh yeah, that's my previous in County. Can I only assume they maintain those looks?

They look, they, you know, a much more practice look. Yeah. By the way, can I just mention that I absolutely love this shit? Like, I could consume stuff like this all the time just because I would love this to be true so much. So if you say you want to believe, I want to believe a try this amount. Right there with you.

And I'm older. And it's just that I can't get the logic in my head to make it work. Just that anything could cross the vast uninhabitable vacuum of space and make it here. And so every other, it makes every other explanation seem more likely to me. But I want it to be true.

Yeah, I'm Rod De With You. Definitely want to believe. And I think the truth is out there It might even be in here. Oh, it could be in the report. You could be right here. And don't forget trust no Yes, yeah, that's my password It's literally modest password. You want to tie it in trust no one that's very funny We're still on this report from Louth or Loth. And so the three guys have showed up. I hope you're telling the truth.

And they said he's like, how would had you know about this? We have a report. And then Miller realized the men were serious when they quote, seem to know everything about me, where I worked, my name, everything else. I mean, they were at his work, they'd ask for my name. They already did! Wait, you know my name? Do you know where I work? Mate, we're here right now.

I want to have the trial off to everything else. Yeah. Everything. Everything. Everything. I know why my desk is at work. My desk, I know what I'm wearing today. Even more intimidating was several questions they asked concerning the incident the previous evening,

where it was perfectly obvious to Miller that they knew the answers and would consequently know if he was lying. It would be several years before Miller would report the incident to the UFO investigators. He took them seriously and only a quite a while later said, by the way, guys, which is a shame because people will often be like, oh yeah, you know, memories, not fallible, yeah, or infallible, fallible. And when you say you are going to investigate it, you mean like one of these people writing the books and that kind of thing? No, not fallible. Yeah. Or infallible. Fallible.

And when you say you are going to investigate us, you may like one of these people writing the books and that kind of thing. Yeah, I guess he went to the community. Yeah, I can show. The believers. Yeah. Which I want to be. I want to be one of those.

Yeah. Yeah. I want to be a believer, not a bereaver. It wasn't only Americans who received visits from the men in black. Apparently, it was all around the world. What? Here's an example from 1964 in the north of England. Right.

Another exotic place. This is about a farm and named Jim Templeton. And his story began when he took his family out for a day trip to a marsh. Mmm. Hey kids, we're going to go to the marsh. Mmm. Hey kids, we're gonna go to the marsh. Yay! I think it's just like a picnic spot or whatever. I think I'm overlooking a beautiful bit of water.

Yeah. I think it sounds nice. Marsh isn't the best one. You marsh hasn't really sold it. Marsh always sounds like wetland. Yeah, we're gonna cross the mall. I've never been there, but apparently backer marsh is beautiful, right? Really?

But the name is not. No. Back as marsh. Back as marsh. Yeah, is marsh like a swamp? Yeah, it's like a wetlands. It's a wetlands? So it's kind of like just like thin, it's like a thin cover of water over mud.

Yeah, it does sound muddy, doesn't it? Yeah, I mean it feels like it would be good if you were like an amphibian. An area of low-lying land, I'm fun to say, which is flooded in wet seasons or at high tide and typically remains waterlogged at all times. Yeah, great. Let's go down and have a look at the marsh. Am I wrong in saying backers marsh is meant to be nice? Sure, I mean I've heard nothing but good things. Okay, great. For me it just doesn't. I think there's like there's some people with

not nice big blocks of land out there. Bit of bush. Yeah. Back at Smash. Fantastic. So yeah, the BBC took on this story and wrote about it a few times. But this is in more recent times and he told the BBC in an interview, we went out on a normal outing and picked our spot. We sat down and I said to my daughter, now I'll get some photos of you with the new dress on.

And I never expected this to happen. She said, fuck you, dad. She said, dad, this isn't a new dress. What are you talking about? You're losing it. I've had this for six months. What do you call new? That's a, I guess a bit of a spectrum. It's all relative.

And yeah, this big meltdown. What is life? Oh, I was like re- Yeah, that is very important. Back a smash. Back a smash. That's the back a smash. Anyway, when he said he never expected this to happen, that this he was referring to was when he went and got the photos developed, you know, quite a while later, this is what he saw.

Look at the figure behind his daughter. Oh wow, does look like someone, is that someone in a space suit? Is there some description? Does look a bit like someone in a space suit. That person in, or that figure is now known as the sole way space man. Oh, it looks a bit like a people at home, it looks a bit like if you've seen Top Gear, it looks

a bit like the Stig. Yeah, it's the Soulway Stig Man. Yeah, so yeah, it also just looks like a, like a, what do they call it? Not a humzatsu, but a hazmat. Hazmat. Yes. Hums, is a wrestler. You two hazmat right now but a hazmat hazmat. Yes, you do hazmat right now.

Yeah, you hazmat's attention. I can hazmat. You can hazmat whenever you want. This is a cat who's done eating cheeseburgers. Yeah, I just want to pat from Matt. I mean, and I am looking at the photo now on my own screen. There is a bit of cloud cover behind us as well as a possible. This is just some sort of cloud.

You did the cloud? Yeah, I mean, it could be, who knows. But he said there was no one else really around. Yeah. There was no one back there. There was no space man. So this is our, the BBC Deskrop, a white suit, a helmet, a dark visor. Mr. Templeton, they believed, had photographed a spaceman.

This is in the UFO-logist community, that's what they believed. For this to be real, for the scale, the spaceman would have to be the size of a skyscraper, right? He looks huge. Yeah, he's in the distance, but then popping up. Yeah, I don't think we know how big spacemen are. Yeah, sure.

I don't think we can, but Spice Men are. Yeah, sure. I don't think we can. But we're thinking that maybe he was, he had some kind of invisibility cloak, but it somehow the camera was able to see through it. Yeah. He's obviously an alien who can't breathe oxygen and can't be exposed to our air. If it's one of the ones from the signs movie, they can't be exposed to liquid, a water, right? Which there would be in the atmosphere in liquid sugar in water.

You know, they would have to wear a suit, technically, those signs aliens, because there was moisture in the air that would burn them up. Right. That would be the odds are that, you know, a Spaceman, an alien or a Becca's Martian, traveled so far are that, you know, a space man, an alien or a backersmarshan, traveled so far across galaxies, etc., arrived here.

Chances are probably there'd be something here that wouldn't drive with them. That's true. I mean, I don't think we'd probably be able to survive on any other planet unless it had the exact composition of our atmosphere and earth and stuff like that. On Sliders, a 90s show, they'd slide through different dimensions. The multiverse and all that sort of stuff. And they were searching for Gerio Connell's home planet, that was sort of the thing. And one time they found it, everything was finally found his own home, but on the way

they'd sort of picked up a bit of a rag tag band as he went around and they, you know, the other burial carols. No, just of other people also were sliding, looking for their own place or whatever. He finally finds his own home, planet out, I assume our planet and our dimension. But one of his friends, one of his travelers, can't breathe the air here. And she's dying. So we asked to make the split-second decision to slide again. Oh my God.

And they don't decide where you slide. Oh. Isn't that heartbreak for that? He could. He couldn't let her go with the rag tag team. Did he throw it through the slide? Does he should have thrown her through the slide? And said, this is the whole thing I've been trying to do.

I can't remember. This is only a vague memory, I'm not going to make it up. Oh man, I actually really want to watch that TV series. Yeah. My favorite. Yeah. And I've mentioned that on this show before. My favorite one, because you know that,

you know, it wouldn't have been a huge budget show and sci-fi can cost a bit. Sure. Especially when you need a new reality every week. Yeah. So at one time Everything was exactly the same as earth only the women had gotes He's like it's not the same. I can't possibly live here

I think I would have been like that close enough. Yeah I think so. Well, I was like home run around that Halloween episode of The Simpsons, where he was like, I think, yeah, everyone, everything was the same only, the family ate with long lizard tongues. Is that clear? Yeah, close enough. All right, back to the BBC article. Other than his wife Annie, so this is the wife

of Jim Templeton, the farm. Other than his wife Annie and two pensioners sat in a car. The car lawal fireman maintained he had not seen anyone else that day at Burr. I think it's Burr Amar, B-U-R-G-H. They say Burr, like, Burr over there, don't they? Or Burr or Burr Amar, which overlooked the sole way first in Cumbria. That's where it gets its name, the sole way.

Space man. Oh, yes. It was, he said, only when the chemist who processes pictures pointed out the shot had been spoiled by a figure that he realized there had been somebody or someone else. The chemist was like, ah, sorry. A Space man seems to wreck your lovely photo. You go bone head there Got like doing little but doing bunny's have your daughter's dress I miss all anyway, I was going through all your photos I put in the bin all the photos of your daughter

And you're a chemist. Yeah. Weird, what a weird time. That would have been. Yeah. I think it still is to me. Cause you could do it when I was a kid, you could do it in more shops than just a chemist.

It's true there was chemist. Sometimes even photo, photo, photo, photo shops. So you're markers would do it. Yep. Some of you can just send away. Yeah. You can take it to a lab, like, you know, like one of those dark kitchens, but for photos.

I think it probably makes more, it's probably, that's weirder, like you're sending it away to a faceless person to look at your daughter. Yeah. You're gonna look them in the eye, you're looking at my daughter. Yeah.

You're looking at my daughter and the spaceman. That's my spaceman, mate. That's my spaceman, mate. Right. And my daughter. I'm more defensive of my space man though. He's from another world. He doesn't know his way around. Can we take any more? I want a big city campus. Having back by nine or else. That's a big dream dating this basement. Um, uh, baby say continues. Um, Mr. Templeton took the photo to police in Carlisle who declared there was nothing out

of the ordinary. Like it's just a specimen. No crime has been committed. It's just a specimen. Do you want me to arrest this specimen? What year was this? 64. 64. So had a man walked on the moon at this point?

No. Ooh. So that would have been 69. Would they have ever seen what a space man looked like at the time? Yeah, there were people who were getting involved in it. Yeah, the Apollo mission had kicked off on the island ship. Yeah, but there hadn't been like any space walks at that point. I wouldn't have got to the point where they were,

you could buy one of these suits at a costume store. No, of course, I don't think so. How did he get it? How did this space man get it? Exactly. Oh, very interesting. Very interesting. This really makes it different.

It's amazing that if it isn't alien and that they had the same design as the ones that we would have in five years time. Oh, well, you know NASA right there involved in all this stuff. Oh, that's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea.

That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea.

That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea. That's where we got the idea. That's where out of the known. Yeah. And we can't use the technology to go anywhere else. No, because we can't we didn't get the technology to travel very far through space. What we got was their space soon design. Pretty snazzy actually. Yeah, costume parties were never the same. So, so the cops are like, there's nothing really out of the ordinary, but they, they also insinuated, it's not a dodgy photo. It's just as it looks. There's a space-man in your photo.

Then I took it to Kodak, the film company, and they said the same thing, and even offered a reward to anyone who could prove the photo was faked. But that reward was never claimed. And the media, frenzy, ensued. It came to the attention of the local paper, the Kumbler news. From there, it ran and ran. It was picked up by the Daily Mail and the Express, said, Dr. David Clark, an author on UFOs. Is he a real doctor or a person? Is that a nickname? I think he's a UFO doctor. No, I think he's a real doctor of some sort.

PhD in your foes. Yeah, yeah. But I think he's a skeptic. Sure. But he's, I think he's like you, probably a skeptic who wants to believe maybe. Sure. Uh, Dr. Clark continues, some, I've put all that onto him, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, that's okay. Maybe he is not skeptical and he does believe.

We, we got to speculate, we got to speculate. We got to speculate, come on. Yeah. Uh, Clark continues, some people claimed it was a spirit, others believed Jim or his daughter had psychic powers, they had not been

aware of. Why didn't I consider that? He's like, it got weirder and weirder. The more people got a, found out about the story, they're like, I know what that is. You've got psychic powers you didn't know about. Then came a visit from two men in black, who asked to be taken to the spot where the image was taken, and referred to each other only as number nine and number eleven. And a different article was number nine and number ten,

but it was numbers. I gotta tell you, that's a better naming system than J and K. Yeah, because what's the limit on numbers? Exactly, infinity. That's the last guy. Agent infinity. Agent infinity. And that's, well, I mean, that's the difference between this, which is a real thing that happened

and the fictionalized version of that. Exactly. You might see the cinema. According to Gears, they demanded to see the start of the photo and question Templeton about the event. When Templeton told them he didn't see the figure personally, the men became angry and stormed out of the field, never to be seen again. Man, if you're going to storm,, it feels the worst place to do it.

You got to maintain a storm for so long. It's just like a marshy feel. Yeah. It's quite a jam. It's getting bugged down in the... Can you pull me out of the rope? I've lost my gumboot back there. Someone get it, my socks are wet. But I'm still angry. Yes, I'm still storming. The only time it's okay, it's great to storm in a field is if you're a rain cloud. And then all that. I in a field as if you're a rain cloud, you know, and then you know all that I'll like goddamn, you know, life that you're bringing back, you know, nurturing

with the water That's beautiful, thank you Dr. Clark says after speaking, so he spoke directly to Templeton and he said he fully believes Templeton's story at least what Templeton's saying is true He's like, I don't know what's in the photo, but I believe that he hasn't faked the photo But he did say I find his men in black story harder to believe like he reckons he might be fibbing a bit on that But who do we how do we know what this doctor's Affiliation is is he a man in black? Oh, that's right.

He could be. I mean, a man in black. We don't see what he's wearing. No, that's right. It doesn't pop off the page. And do we think that the men in black is one organization based in America? And they're policing the whole world. Or does England have their own men in black?

And everyone's got their own. Everyone's got their own. You know what I mean? Yeah. In international, which is the fourth one, would you say? Yeah, I assume it's men in black. Because he didn't mention what I'm saying. We don't know what I'm saying. We don't know what I'm saying. We don't know what I'm saying. We don't know what I'm saying. We don't know what I'm saying. We don't know what I'm saying. We don't know what I'm saying.

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We don't know what I'm saying. We don't know what I'm saying. We don't know what I'm saying. We don't know what I'm saying. We don't know what I'm saying. Connect 9 and 11 holy shit I don't know if we've stumbled on something here more than we're gonna get a visit tonight. Oh my god Oh, you figured out our 9 and 11 thing I Don't tell anybody about it. Yeah, it's definitely real It's definitely involves. I don't know what you're talking about, they're storm-ass. Yeah. What's up, this meeting in a field, just to watch him go. I've already posted the episode. Oh, damn!

Ah. Uh, things got stranger though, according to Armstrong. Perhaps the strangest turn, or Armstrong writing for the BBC. Perhaps the strangest turn of events was a link to the planned launch site of a blue streak missile in Womera in South Australia. Just days after Mr. Templeton had taken his photograph, the missile test on the other side of the world was aborted by technicians who reported seeing two men in the firing range.

who reported seeing two men in the firing range. Oh. This is just days after Temple Denon, the other side of the world saw a Spaceman. So there's a Spaceman in England in Australia, there's two men. Yeah. What are the odds? What, he doesn't say what they're dressed in? Wait, oh my gosh. Wait for the chills are about to hit.

Upon later seeing the Soulway Space Man picture on the front page of an Australian newspaper, they were said to be stunned as the figure looked the same as the figures they saw close to the missile. Two spacemen. Yes. We're near a rocket launch.

Yes. They weren't gonna ride in the rocket, were they? Well, maybe they were looking for it, they were trying to get a ride Phone home. Yeah ride home. Wow, but the what kind of rocket was it with their launching? The blue space missile somewhere. That's a blue streak missile blue streak missile. Do they go into space? I don't I think so I mean I have no idea but But maybe once you think that you think the so-way space man knows about Australian rocket technology, a rocket and go, well, that's going to my house.

I mean, he knows enough about it so that he can go and see and get the thing. And the other thing is he didn't, like the two space men didn't get on board the missile. All right, maybe they tell you. They might have gone there and gone, oh, well, that's not what we wanted. Well, it's pissy little thing. Yeah. This isn't going to get us on. This might get us on. That's, well, that's not what we wanted. Let's piss you little thing. Yeah. This isn't gonna get us high.

This might get us high. That's probably not going anywhere. I don't even think that would make it to the Earth Moon. Yeah. I think they can, maybe they can deliver satellites? Wait, the delivery. That's a delivery, so. Haveland propeller's blue streak

was a British intermediate range British. British. That's how they got them there. Well, still always. Yes. So, so the other big coincidence, they said they looked very similar, but also the Blue Strieg was built at the RF, RIF, Spadeidum. I don't know what that is, in Cumbria, which was just a few miles from when Mr. Temple Dance photographed the Saltway Space Man. This is sounding a lot like the lab leak theory. Oh yeah. You know, I'm trying to take us through it. No, you know, I'm just, I was just attempting to be silly just then.

But, you know, it's just that thing. Do you wanna explain to you silly next? Yeah. So it was just the, you know, they were like the virus started, COVID started in Wuhan. There was a Wuhan lab there. So therefore, the virus came from the lab. Same thing, there was a space man that appeared near the place where the rocket was made, where there was a space man.

And then it was a space man leak from the rocket builders. So you're saying both the true? I guess. To me, that's exactly the same. I mean, remembering we have to speculate. And you can use that. You'll edit this out, please. Right.

Right. Anyway, pretty spooky. That is spooky. You gotta tell you, so are we thinking that there's at least three of these space men, or one of them might have doubled up. Maybe the same one and one more, I was in Cumbria. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe the three space men were also the three men in black.

Oh, thanks for the bad things. They could even women in white. Yeah, that's true. That's very white. That's gonna be women inside there. Yeah, that's true. He was very white, that's good, women inside there. Yeah, that's right, why don't we assume you're this white man? There could be three white lady, funeral, funeral ladies. And does that also mean that if they were there trying

to maybe catch a ride on the blue streak space rocket, that maybe they were gonna catch a ride on like either this man or his daughter up into a space. Oh, right. They saw the implication. They saw the daughter in a dress and went, she's going to space. She's going to space. She looks like a rocket.

Yeah, yeah. She has space taxi driver. That's what I look like back on. I'll get in her head. So apparently this also built up a bit of buzz in Australia about the connection here. And as that happened, it was also claimed that a UFO had been seen at Womera. Since then, Dr. Clark and his research found a photo of the supposed UFO. And he said, quote, it looked like a triangle of light and that it was clearly a lens flare.

So I mean without knowing what that means. Yeah. So is this guy skeptical or not? No, he's skeptical. He's well, he's skeptical. He's saying it was just a trick of the lot. Oh, okay. A lens flare was like that. You know, when you're taking a photo, there's kind of a flash. Right, I thought you might be saying, that's clearly the tail of a rocket. No, I sold you out of my tone there. I was trying to do a joke there of saying a skeptical thing with the tone of Binks and C.

Gotcha. And you fell for it. Yeah, well, whenever you said whatever that means, I also went, I don't know what that means. Yeah, there you go. Well, I think we've got a lot to process here. So maybe we'll go for a quick break. And when we come back, I'm going to tell you a bit more about the men in black.

I'd love that. Okay. Hopefully you purchased whatever you would just advertise. Let's go back to Harvey. Through the 50s and 60s, UFOs had evolved from a fringe tabloid section of the paper to the front page. These were the years following the infamous Roswell New Mexico UFO incident, which we covered way back on episode 65, Dave. Wow, 65! Can't believe it. That's kind of what years ago. And then Barker's books serve less as a

conspiratorial manifesto and more as a collection of a new sort of folklore. This understanding of UFO phenomena and the men in black as folklore or cultural mythology was furthered by a 1957 report by famed psychoanalyst Carl Jung, which was called Flying Sources, a modern myth of things seen in the skies. While you're never argued for, or against the existence of your foes, he noted, quote, our time is characterized by fragmentation, confusion, and perplexity. Perplexity? Sure, yeah. At such times, men's eyes turn to heaven for help and marvelous signs appear from on high. So I guess he's sort of saying that we're looking for answers. Yeah. And I said that the answers are there. Yeah. You were first. Yeah. But he's just a symbols guy, right? He's like, he just thinks that, oh yeah, you're just kind of manifesting things with your

mind. Yeah. Finding what you want to see. That's what it sounds like he's saying. Is that, but that's like, is that his main thing generally? I mean, I don't, yeah, I mean, I've never heard it Is that his main thing, generally? I mean, I don't, yeah, I mean, I've never heard it to be related to UFOs. I only really know Jung from Tism lyrics. Yeah. Yeah. Jung talent time, stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. That was about to do a Jung in Jackson, but I thought nobody's like,

I know what the fuck even in Jackson is. John Keel was a UFO buff, an expert in all things paranormal. Does that name ring a bell to you, Dave? John Keel. John Keel was a UFO buff and expert in all things paranormal. What does that name ring about to you Dave? John Keel. John Keel probably won't because it's from a long time ago, but he was a key player in the Moth Man episode. Oh, great. He was the one, one of the main investigators.

He went into the town to find out about him and he was the one who ended up writing the Moth Man prophecies which turned into a Richard Gear film. He's also the one that said the Mothman, if you see the Mothman, something bad's about to happen. He's like, John Keill is deep in all this. He believes in, if you, he's like David DeCovany and X-Files, I think. Is he kind of like an Alex Jones of the day?

Oh, I wonder. I don't know if, yeah, I don't know if he was yelling. His thoughts, you know, when you didn't have as much airtime and you just said the right. Yeah, yeah, the yelling didn't matter so much. But yeah, Keel has said to have had several encounters with the Mib, the men in black. Oh, no. These occurred during his investigations in the UFO sightings and other paranormal phenomena in the 60s and 70s.

He said that these individuals often appeared as government agents or investigators and sometimes displayed unusual behaviors. Kill reported that he was closely monitored and harassed by the MIB. They would often show up unexpectedly. Just let us know if you come. Happy to have you. Just give us a cool head. I mean, I don't have any tea. Yeah, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I know. Yeah, but the house is a mess. Yeah, and he's probably he sounds like he's probably a single man who probably only has like one dish of each, you know, you got yourself exactly. Let me organize. I'll get it. I'll borrow a couple of mugs. That we're going to share a fucking spoon. Yeah.

They would then question him about his research and try to dissuade him from continuing his investigations, implying that continuing his research could lead to dire consequences. Kills accounts of these encounters were often included descriptors and descriptions of bizarre behavior from the men in black, such as inappropriate or out of place clothing, odd mannerisms and unconvincing disguises. Which, to me, it's real funny, because it's like, is this because they're aliens, and they don't really know how to behave as humans. Or is that because these are weird UFO believers who are in weird costumes

and trying to be involved, you know, trying to legitimize your research because you know how we said before that some people say if you're visited by men in black then that just proves what you've seen is real. That's right. So I mean that's problem. Now I'm starting to get into pretty. Right. And if you see conspiracy conspiracy. That's one rule. If you see men in black it's real and if you see a moth man you're about to have a bad time. Kill like many researchers held varying theories about the true identity and the purpose of the MIB. He considered the possibility that they might not

be government agents, but could be a part of a broader paranormal or interdimensional phenomenon. That's right. He was one of the ones to believe that men in black aren't just keeping the aliens a secret, but they themselves are the secret aliens. Oh, okay.

As Harvey writes, like so much else in the conversation regarding UFOs, the men in black changed over time. No longer were they simply government agents offering a warning, they were mysterious entities unto themselves, seemingly human and inhuman at the same time. Proponents of this series suggest that the MIB have the ability to change their appearance, making them look like humans. They use this ability to infiltrate human society

and interact with witnesses and researchers without raising suspicion. Oh my God, so one of you two could be unrightened. Yeah, exactly. Oh God, I didn't need to have to worry about that. But you can tell from where outfits that we're probably not. We're of the time. Yeah, we're of the time.

You are dressed in black. Remember that. Oh my gosh. Okay. You were in black hat, like shirt. You were wearing like a old FBI style glasses. That's cool. That's cool, but my hair is not regulation.

Yes, and you're a bit on-camped. I'm very on-camped. But I like that this has moved forward. It goes, well, you know, because at first it's just the, in a way it's kind of like world-building through community. Yes, 100%. Yes. Because it's like one guy comes up with a thing,

and then another guy comes up with a thing and you go, oh, the community kind of goes, these things are connected. Like that. And so then it kind of goes, oh, this is probably an organization, right? And then it develops into like, well, it's probably the aliens themselves, right? But then it kind of like, we can tell from the movies that eventually it's like, well, no, the aliens and the men in black are in cahoots. Some of the men in black could be aliens as well.

So then you kind of like, so then now you have the full picture of how it can work and now they've got alien technology, but they're also fighting aliens, you see. Yeah, and a bunch of different people talk about in those sort of terms, they say a few talk about it like it's a game of telephone. You know, the American game of your whisper something, changes evolves.

American whispers. There's like a big version of American whispers. Yeah. Yeah. Because we can't say the one that we used to say, I guess. Telephone. Chinese telephone. Can you say that?

Yeah. And yeah, so actually I have a Chinese telephone to show me. Well, there you go. Yeah. So yeah, so much like that. You've got to show me. I've got to show me. Never. It's actually the best phone I've ever owned. Oh, So yeah, so watch like that. You're gonna show me. I gotta show me.

Nevermind. It's actually the best phone I've ever owned. Oh really? Very, very reasonably priced. It was on there, like 400 bucks. And it's done. And is this a paid, this is absolutely a paid ad?

Okay. I mean, all of my information goes directly to she, Jean Pint. But, but very cheap. You're on first night, by sister's second. Yeah, I mean, she, well, she's actually his family name. Oh, you're a first night person. I have the family first. Yeah, you're a first night basis every second. I mean she will have she's actually his family me Oh She know about this you find family first

Maybe she's born with it But yeah, it's really interesting how you say that. That's how some people say it. And also talking about it like a modern, almost a modern American folklore, mythology. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, because it also has that kind of Jesus feel, like you know, like you always hear about Jesus and then they're like, oh, but they didn't write

as stories down until, you know, 50 years later, 100 years later, or versions later, yeah. And so in this one, it's like, well, these things happen and then people just have time to stew before they actually then, or go, actually, yeah. My memory of this is this and they were hovering. Yeah, my eyebrows were on fire. So I'll take you through a few of the things

that people have said they've noticed when encountering the men in black that maybe make them think that they might be aliens themselves. So some M.I.B. encounters have included descriptions of unusual physical traits or behaviors that seem out of place for regular humans. These traits might include unusually pale skin, oh my god. Oh no. Okay. Oh, an electric understanding no. Oh no. Okay. Oh no. A lack of understanding of basic human customs.

Oh no. Oh no. Oh dear. Oh my God. Keeping in their mother's face. Oh dear. Keeping in their mother's face. Oh dear.

Or a sense of being otherworldly. Oh. Those who subscribe to the theory that the MIB, Araliens themselves believe that these beings have their own agenda related to human encounters with UFOs. This agenda might involve controlling information, preventing disclosure or manipulating human perception

of extraterrestrial encounters, which is, these are the same motives that they used to think when they were a human group as well, right? So I don't think that either whether they're aliens or not, I think they're a human group as well, right? Yeah. So I don't think that either whether they're aliens or not, I think they're just trying to stop people knowing about aliens. Sure. Sure.

Witnesses sometimes report that the MIB seemed devoid of normal human emotions or reactions. Oh my God. This is what I am describing myself here. This has led some to believe that they are not human, but rather beings who are attempting to mimic human behavior. I should say I don't live in my mother's basement. Sure. Witnesses have reported that the MIB exhibit a lack of knowledge about everyday things, making them seem out of touch for the modern world.

Some accounts suggest that MIB appear to remain the same age over many years, sparking speculation about their immortality or time travel abilities. So I'm guessing some of the people who visit them are like, they're working up a relationship. Yeah. You know, they're getting the same, wait, which, so if you've been working with Jay. Yeah, okay.

9-11-9, don't have a, we do a nine and 10. Yeah. Cause we'll bring them back. We obviously, you know, you've built up a rapport with them. Yeah, but I mean, like, you know, it's kind of like the same thing with people just saying, like, oh, Paul Rudd doesn't seem to age. Oh my god. Can't our raves, that part of an old photo thing. Yeah.

And then you go, yeah, but I mean, the years are still passing. And at some point, you're really going to see it. Yeah. But, yeah. But I mean, you're not seeing these people often enough, probably, for that kind of thing. Also, when I said the Living in the Mother's Basement, I thought that you were in blind date. Yes, and blind, they were just people who loved UFOs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Which, yes. No, I figured that out when you said that one. Sorry, okay, great. But I was too far down the fact of Bane Pyle with something that you were in black. And thinking, I'm like, oh my God. Not making any sense. The day was already under my scent.

Yeah. The M.I.B. have been seen consuming, unidentifiable, and often strange food items. Oh, okay. You're gonna find this interesting now. Some have been even been reported consuming excessive amounts of sugar. We hear what it says what's that sound like?

In water. More. More. More. More. And like straight up roll sugar? Yeah, it sounds like it. Yeah.

And I guess that is what in spot. Yeah. That same. Sugar. Water. Because he's a bug or whatever. Yeah, of course, big bugs. Man, bugs would have evolved. They would have evolved separately to the bugs on human earth. And so, you know, human earth is what I call. No, I've claimed it for the human. He gave me stuff away. The cool thing about that sauce man. Oh, no, oh, weird that they had to get

in a strange guest who doesn't understand regular customs onto this M.I.B episode. It was because Jess was taken out yesterday. You had to pull out last minute and we've only got text messages from her. And then, Al over here, the last time you're on, but a few weeks ago, you were saying how the tongue goose grub vent wasn't sussed all in. There was a plausible explanation for that. I'm like, oh, it was obviously a meteor.

Exactly. That's what you're saying. Everyone was like, one and all about that. So just, you know, and I stand by all that stuff and Jess is fine. She's doing really good. Well, that's good to hear. So yeah, another thing they say is they sometimes have peculiar greetings, including bizarre handshakes and making cryptic statements.

Doesn't sound like me. Of Barker's 1956 book, they knew too much about flying sources. Robert Schaeffer, a UFO researcher, said, it still has an important legacy. Before its publication, nobody outside a very narrow group of subscribers to flying saucer newsletters had ever heard of Bender or his men in black. Barker would go on to write several more books

related to the paranormal and UFOs, including 1970s, The Silver Bridge, which helped spread the story of another popular paranormal figure, the creature known as Mothman. But how much of his writing was done in good faith has been called into question by many in the UFO research community. Schaefer said, Barker made it clear to me that he did not take the man in black or Mothman very seriously.

This is one of the, he's written like, I mean, he's collated stories. And Schaefer goes on to say, however, he believed that there was still something mysterious about the whole UFO and paranormal thing. Yeah, I read somewhere that people like, he's just a really good writer. I like, he had a great style and he was able to make it. Which I guess is how you sell some of these things as well.

Yeah. But it's interesting to know that one of the key writers on it, he's pretty skeptical about it all of a self. I mean, it's also strange with like any of the conspiracy world. Is that once you've done something or said something that has got you attention and then it starts to fade away. There's a big goal. There's a part of you that kind of goes, oh well, if I keep talking about this, maybe

I'll keep getting more attention. And then suddenly you kind of make it part of your identity and then you're like, maybe I could just fancy up some of the things, some of the facts, some of the things like that. So I have a little bit more to write about. And then suddenly, it feels like some of the industry, especially during COVID and some people who were skeptical of the blah, blah, blah, seem to have just been like, oh, now if I just make up stuff,

people will keep donating money to support me and blah, blah, blah. And then it's just like, it just becomes like anything else, like doing stand up, but instead of coming up with jokes, you're like, I got a lot of new theories. Yeah. You know, and that's kind of all it.

I am being like, I'm just a storyteller. Yeah, I'm just a storyteller. Yeah, I'm just a storyteller. Yeah, it's like fiction, but I'm passing it off as real, but I also actually suddenly do believe this now. They are trying to lock us down in our suburbs so that we can do whatever. There is going to be a one world government.

I mean, I actually think a one world government would be pretty good if it was a good government. Yeah, it's going to be a good one world government. Yeah, one good government. Yeah, and we want one to have one of the better governments. Yeah, if you many of the odds are, you know, power, you know, cream rosters are top. That's right. I think I think it's man generally speaking. Yeah, the best people for the job get those big ladies. Yeah, the cream rosters are the top and then it trickles down to the rest of us. Yeah, we'll get a bit of cream. We'll get a little dollop of cream.

A little dollop. Beautiful. Yeah. I'd love to. I mean, we definitely lift some of the worse off countries out with a sort of a thing like this. Anyway, I want there to be an alien over Lord of Earth. I also read a little bit about how there's a theory that the government or whatever, the FBI's or whatever, release this information in the UFO communities.

They get them to believe it so that they can manipulate them and follow them online. So maybe you push that idea there to cover up what's really going on. Yeah, which is just way grim stuff, like taking advantage of you know the land you're farming whatever. Yeah, right. I put that out. You didn't realize that what we're actually doing is mining. And we're fracking. Fracking from the sky. From the sky. We're sky fracking. But yeah, this is one article I read by Steve Rose suggests he talks about this a bit and he talks about how government agents in the USA and UK infiltrated UFO circles and fed

UFOologists lies and half truths and then saying that driven by their own beliefs and curiosity, the UFOologists readily accepted and propagated these deceptions, and this disinformation was supposedly intended to distract the UFO community, also to help them gather information about their activities and possibly mislead foreign governments, including the Soviets. Oh my gosh. What have they ever done? One example Rose gives, I'll read this from his article,

is about a guy called Paul Benowitz. Rose writes, Benowitz was a successful electronics entrepreneur in New Mexico. In 1979, Benowitz started seeing strange lights in the sky and picking up weird transmissions on his amateur equipment. The fact that he lived just across the road from the Kurtland Air Force Base should have said alarm bells ringing, but Benowitz was convinced these phenomena were of extraterrestrial origin. Being a good patriot, he contacted the Air Force, who realized that far from eavesdropping on extraterrestrials, Benowitz was inadvertently eavesdropping on them. Instead of making him stop though, they told Benowitz they were interested in his findings. So basically, this is making sense. He thinks he's

some interpreting alien activity, but it's actually just air force activity. He goes to the air force and says, I think I'm on to some aliens here. They realize that he's actually onto them. And they go, interesting. Let us know what you find out about these aliens. Yeah. So they tell him to dig deeper. And within a few interesting. Let us know what you find out about these aliens. Yeah. So they tell him to dig deeper. And within a few years, he was interpreting alien languages, spotting crashed alien aircraft in the hills

as he flew around. He was also a pilot. And sounding the alert for a full-scale invasion. All the time, the investigators were surveilling him, surveilling them. And they gave Benowitz computer software that inverted commas interpreted the signals. So they're planting all this to him.

And even dumped fake props for him to discover. Oh my God. The mania took over Benowitz's life. It's pretty grim. And in 1988, his family checked him into a psychiatric facility. So wait, this is a real story? There were, I mean, I believe so. This is an article from the Guardian. I think this came out in

the one of the big info dumps from, okay, right. It was one of the famous snowden, I think. Yeah, right. I think maybe this story came out for a couple of years. So, just in case he's accidentally interpreted military secrets, we'll spin it to make it sound like it's alien stuff, we'll lay him along and then he... And to keep him in a rush, it will lay him along. And apparently they've done this to a bunch of different people, a bunch of different groups and stuff.

They're like, yay, aliens love to hear more about that, yay, yay, and then they're just planning props and stuff. But are they? Or are they? Loss his mind. Is this just a group of people who are kind of having a bit of fun? Oh. Like, do you think that this is just like weird like,

hazing of just a nut job? Like, you know, somebody who they're like, they're treating like a nut job. And they're, because the problem with all this organizational stuff, right? Like, like, you know, we're like, oh, it's this organization was doing this. Are you pitching for a one-world government again?

I just was trying to go for one. This is a problem. No, it's like, we only one government to control everything. No, it's just that like sometimes an organization, you know, obviously is responsible for whatever happens within it, but there could just be a group of people within the organization who are like on the down low going, hey, we could just fuck with this guy. Well, this is my thing, it's pretty funny. Yeah, like if you're in the Air Force,

you probably don't always have that much to do. Yeah, so I have there on Paul. Hey, what are they doing with that Paul? Yeah, with their pole? Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure. With pole? Well, the farm and, oh yeah, that's right. Sorry, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, there's a lot of fun up one. Yeah, they've got a horizontal pole. They crawl along the side down. They slide down the horizontal pole. Like a pig on a spit. Well, you got to pass the time somehow. Yeah. Yeah, and to see for that, or a prank this guy

that lives across the road. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, this is a very grim story. Yeah. Yeah. That was over like a 10-year period.

Mm. Yeah. I mean, the stories like that have like the FBI doing all that kind of stuff of like, you know, just essentially baiting people into committing a terrorist act or something like that and then arresting them. Yeah. You guys see? Well, he was going to do it because all it took was a little bit of baiting.

Yeah. But, you know, we don't want people like down on the street who can be baited. Yeah. We can't. We gave him all this. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, we're coming towards the end.

Obviously, there's, you know, a million different ways you could wrap it holes you could go down with this topic. But I thought I'd finish with a story about comedian Dan Acroid. Acroid is a big alien guy. His interest in UFOs and the paranormal dates back to his childhood. He's spoken about witnessing unexplained lights in the sky and experiencing a deep fascination with the unknown. In a video I watched on YouTube he's been interviewed about filming a TV show called Out There which was going to be on

the I think the sci-fi network or something and it focused on interviewing experts on UFO and paranormal topics. It talks about how we was filming the final episode when he went outside for a smoke because he was receiving a call from Britney Spears. He answered the phone. Is this real? Is he being baited again? Is it real Britney?

Yeah. Could have been a deep fake Britney voice. So he's on the phone to Britney out the front having a smoke and she's like, I'm gonna be on SNL coming up. You wanna be on with me. He's like, I'm going to be on SNL coming up. You want to be on with me is like, yeah, fantastic. Sure. While on the phone, he noticed a black Ford sedan parked nearby. So he's on the phone of Britney Spears. He turns his head, sees the car, turns back, turns again, and the car has disappeared.

In the video, Accroyd suggests that the car's sudden disappearance may have been due to some sort of cloaking technology, or that it could have been related to the UFO and paranormal subjects discussed in his show. He speculates about whether this could have been an experience with the men in black, or military personnel associated with UFO phenomena. While he was on the phone, 12 light-lady. Oh my god. Oh my god.

This is all tied back around together. Anyway, he went back inside the studio and was told soon after that his show was canceled never to be released. They were about to finish filming the last episode. Seems a little suspicious to me. I mean, it does seem very suspicious. All the elements are there, a black car

that you didn't see drive away. No. And he's like, it takes a while for a car to, this is in the New York City, you know. He said, couple of numbers. 9th and 11th Street. No, it was like eight and something or whatever. And he's like, you can't just, you can't just drive a car

up a straight and around a corner in a second. Yeah. He's like, it's a cloaking device probably. I mean, he was just saying the facts. He was letting us make up our own minds. Um, yeah. So why was she calling him about, about SNL? Is he gonna be on there? This wasn't this week. This is a wall back again. I know, but he would have ceased being in SNL, like, well, that's why she was inviting him on. She's like, shout an idea that would be great for him

to come on as a, you know, a guest. To one of his old characters. Yeah, I'm guessing Kornads, maybe. Kornads, maybe that Groovy pants guy. Groovy pants, Gus. Oh, no, that's Kornads. No, no, it wasn't. It was a...

What prank then? No. It was a banner. Oh, Eric, banner was groovy pants, Gus. Groovy pants, groovy pants, groovy pants, Gus. Groovy pants, groovy pants, groovy pants, Gus. Might be thinking of the detachable toe. That was a, on the Jemowan show.

Sounds like one of my ideas, but that's great. Do we know if Dan Aquck would ever made it to? That's an L, or did he get canceled by the aliens? I wonder if we can find that out. Did. I don't want to ring you if the men in black took out one of the men in blue. Oh, he was one of the boys' brothers.

Yeah. Who wore black. Oh my god, they're the men in black. Okay, so this auto fills when I write, did Britney Spears and Dan Acroid with Get Married? Appeared on SNL. Yes, 2002. Britney Spears with special guest, Dan Acroid.

Wow. It happened. Um, so yeah, many of claim to have had encounters with the many black there are authenticity is still debated to this day. Some suggest that these encounters are nothing more than urban legends or hoaxes while others argue they are a crucial part of UFO law. So what do you think? Are they government agents, internal dimensional beings, or some sort of manifestation of the human imagination?

What are you thinking? I mean, in the end, this is a mystery episode. Oh my gosh. So, what, oh, you don't have the answer? I don't, sorry, I don't have the answer, but I was hoping one of you could tell me. I'm gonna say government organization. The truth is in here, I'm pointing it out. It's hot. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.

Because I, I earlier accidentally followed one of the, uh, the blue pill, the blue pill with the red pill, which is my name. Yeah. Um, yeah. Look, I, I think that there are probably actually our government organizations that have to do with our government organizations that have to do with UFO stuff, investigation. But I don't know if the exact organization has everybody dressing in black at all times. That's one of the things I'm black. I can't have good away as a species

at keeping secrets like that. Yeah, it's hard. You just feel like there'd be, and now how everyone's got a camera in their pocket, you just feel like it would have been, but you know, it makes it harder to believe, I think. I think it would have been easier to believe in some of these things in the 60s, but now you're like, ah,

you probably, probably someone would have leaked a photo, although they're probably our photos out there that Yeah, and then you see a photo and you go photoshopped Hey, yeah, yeah, I mean look I wanted all to be true, but um We'll see time time will tell molder. I also want to believe Dave, what about you? I want to to believe but I'm not I'm not sure I don't know whether there's like a specific organization, but I can imagine that you know things come up and they send the FBI out there Just to double check it and they are often men wearing suits Yeah, so I can see how that would be that kind of thing

But I also some of the stories you told it did feel a bit like that they started as one thing Yes, and then over time became a little bit bigger. Yeah a bit feel a bit like that they started as one thing. Yes. And then over time, it came. A little bit bigger. Yeah, a bit of American telephone was played. Yes, absolutely. But I would love a failure answer here. And they'd just been watching over us. Yeah, if any islands I was listening, getting touched, I'll stay your on Twitter.

Yeah, I'm on Twitter at all. I couldn't help it anymore. Where are you? Where can I get you? A little family on X. That sounds like don't know if it's any more. Where are you? Where can I get you? Little Familand X. That sounds like some of the aliens would use. Exactly.

I mean, you know, Elon is basically a alien. Oh my God. He's nodding in plain thought. Yeah. Yeah, they can find me. They can find me on Instagram at a Trumbly virtual or at two in tank for my two in the think tank podcast. Socials or the podcast itself.

And as I've informed episodes of that, if people want to, they dove in 400-minimania, wants to absolutely lose their mind. You can also check out the 400th episode video that appears on Stupid Old Channel, where Matt appears after at least an 18 hours in. By 18 hours in, and there's also Mesa and Mr. Sunday movies appear in there. Cash page, cash page. But there's Sands pants. Yeah, Jackson and Hayden.

Doo sure. And Carnivali. Oh, Adam Carnivali. Yeah. We got some big guests, Andy Matthews. Did you know that Adam Carn of our lives our dungeon master? I love that. Yeah, I would love to have my own dungeon. That's not done. Yeah, that's cool. You guys are doing really well He damned me

Yesterday, dungeon master. He dungeon master. Yeah Sliped into my DM. That means he put his finger into Adam Cronovato. Well as we say goodbye to Elastair, we say hello to our favorite section of the show. If you're watching on our YouTube channel you might notice that I'm wearing a different shirt now. That is because we had a quick break as our left. I put a straw into an ice coffee and the cup exploded, sprang both me, my computer, the desk in here and the carpet. Great. Coffee went everywhere except your mouth. Yeah, that's right. So I'm flat for two reasons. I'm sticky and I haven't had my coat. Don't

even talk to me before I've had my coffee. That's not really true for me, but man, I feel like I could have used it today. Anyway, I'll lift. You're a lift, yeah, and now you're wearing a fantastic do-go on T-shirt. It's like in any other work scenario, I don't know if I would have been, I would have just go over to a box and pull out a T-shirt. Yeah, your offices, you know, your official merch in the corner. No, we would feel a bit silly wearing my own merch, but today it was that or nipples out. So I think if I was going to feel silly or in one of those scenarios, it was definitely

the... Well, it's pretty close, actually. And also Evan came up, Dave Dene and he said, I said, would you have called that on camera because that would have been pretty funny watching the coffee explode and he said no. Though I was watching the screen downstairs and I thought, was Matt got no top on? So I came up and checked.

He ran up here. I ran up, he was puffing. I saw all the coffee and I thought, oh, okay, I get it. It's funny. So it wasn't recorded, but Evan was watching. Yeah, Evan was watching it. So this is the part of the show where we get to thank some of our great Patreon supporters. These are the people who help make this show continue.

They help make it exist by supporting it financially, but also emotionally and just adding into the community. Thank you so much. Which, you know, anyone can do if you want to tell your friends to tune into the show, that means so much. But if you want to get involved on the Patreon, go to patreon.com. So I just, I just shorted it out there, sorry. The boo! Sorry. A reboot map there? Yeah, sorry. I got it.

Is that the coffee that you spelled yourself? Coffee and my computer and in my own main frame as well. So it's patreon.com slash do do. Don't take over this. Yeah, I think if you want to. All you have to do is head over to patreon.com slash do go on pod. Hmm. That's not how I'd say it. By short and I would say. And there's a bunch of different levels you can get involved in. They've all gotten names. Dave came up with the names many moons ago. Yeah, the Sydney Sharnberg Deluxe package, the Asprod level.

The Dreamboat Cooper level. Exactly. And yeah, if you're on the Sharnberg level, in particular, you get to get involved in the fact Quotal Question section, which I think has a little jingle, go somewhere like this. Fact Quotal Question ding. He always remembers the thing,

we always remember the ding. That was a beautiful moment. And yeah, if you're in the Sydney Sean Berg level or above, you get to give us fact Quotal Question or a Braggers suggestion or really whatever you like. And then I'll read them out when I read them out on the show. First time. And I'm looking forward to doing that now for four of our great supporters.

First up, Jacobi Austin, the angel. Oh, do you usually have an Austin in there? It's fantastic. I think about it. Maybe that's a fresh take on an old classic. Uh, Jacobi Austin, the angel, if I think the angel is the, what would that be? The French? Yeah. The angel. The angel. And Jacobi, our angel has given himself the title. You get to give yourself a title as well. A reformed writer of bloody long facts, quotes, and questions.

And Jacobi's offering a suggestion, although it does have an ass risk next to it. Okay. Jacobi writes, Hey, mates, I'm writing in just after hearing my last fact-quarter question read by Matt and Dave. My suggestion is that Matt and Dave try watching Parks and Wreck again because it's great. Oh, that's right. Sorry. Last time the question was, which Parks and Wreck character are you? and I was like, I wish Jess was here She's such a big fan of that show. Watched it about three or four times all the way through and I'm sorry to Kobe Austin

Danger but Jess is not here again. Isn't that funny? unlucky although Someone did message us somewhere or posted somewhere saying They could help us out. They said you were the Adam Scott character. Oh great, and that's what I said. And they said like definitely, you're the Adam Scott character. I'm the Jurassic Park guy. Chris Parker.

Samuel. Chris something. And Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt. And then Jess maybe was, oh, forget, maybe Leslie, no, the main character. The main character. Maybe the main character.

And I'm Ben Wyatt played by Adam Scott. Adam Scott. Bit of a nerd. Thank you so much for that. I'm Scott. And anyway, sorry, Jiko, I just want to apologize again. Okay. Well, Jiko, be continued saying, my, Chico, I just want to apologize again. Okay, well Chico, be continued saying, My suggestion is that Matendev, they've tried watching

Parks and Rook again because it's great. I would specifically suggest starting with season two as you won't miss much and the quality is significantly higher. Episodes like Pornizu, practice date, Ron and Tammy and Hunting Trip are all good jumping off points. I've been rewatching the show with my wife who hadn't seen it and it's fantastic. She now loves it as much as I do. Enjoy from Jacobian Margaret. And the asterisk says, since Jess wasn't there last time again, I ask, which parks and wreck

character are you most like? That's so funny. Sorry. You're gonna have to try one more time again. Go around again, come on. I'll see you in a couple of weeks. Jess was meant to, like, she's had a few, like every time she's missed recently, it's been for a different reason. And yeah, this one was very unforeseen.

She's okay, and we'll be back, I believe, in the coming weeks. Yes. Um, thanks so much to Kobe. Next one comes from a Lauren joiner. Okay. That person who shares too many pictures of her dog, but she'll never stop because her dog is rad. Never stop. And Lauren is asking a question, writing, what is something you look forward to every year that isn't a holiday, but you treat it like one. And as I always ask, Lauren has done, answered her own question. Writing for me, it's Innings Fest.

It's a two day musical festival in Arizona that coincides with spring training, baseball. There are a ton of great bands and baseball legends who come out and sign stuff and show off their skills, usually the pictures. Last year, the offspring Weezer and Green Day were the headliners for not one. Yes, they played back-to-back-to-back. What? Offspring, Weezer, Green Day. Not a bad triple head-up. This is at a baseball event. Yeah, that's incredible.

That innings fest. Innings, oh wow, amazing. Music is innings, it's everything. Yeah, it's got your three big loves. Music, baseball and everything. Yeah, and the offspring. Lauren says, my high school self lost her damn mind. It was amazing. Free fighters played the year before the lineup for

2024 is coming out soon. I can't wait If you've ever if you're ever in Arizona in fab Check it out and follow it up with the spring training game best weekend of the year There is also one in Florida the spring training takes place in Arizona of Florida But seeing as I live in Arizona, I'm going to say this is the superior one. How about that? Isn't it interesting that there's only two cities that do what Arizona is a state, isn't it? There's only, and so is Florida. There's only two states that do spring training. Yeah, there you go. Love it. That sounds like a really, really fun

and you'll think to go to. Yeah. And it's probably something you're like to because you have it. I don't want to answer for you, but I assume you're going to say your and your music festival you go to. Yeah. It's married to the music festival every year. Love it. I haven't missed one since 2004, I think. So next year will be 20 years. Only there were two COVID missed years. Right. But it'll be 20 years since you, was that your first one you went and you've been? Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. There were two COVID mischievous. Right, but it'll be 20 years since you, is that was that your first one you went and you've been there? Yeah, yeah, amazing. I would say the closest thing for me that comes to mind

is like the comedy festival here in Melbourne. Oh, yeah, that's right up there. That feels like a Christmas sort of thing and I love it, you know, and I get the guide out, or I used to be like the physical guide now these days more, I, I favorite shows, and then I get a spreadsheet happening for to maximize how many shows I can see.

I get very excited about international people coming or friends doing shows. Yeah, love it. Yeah, I'm, I'd have that right up there. So, and then probably AFL finals, springtime as well. I think spring's just a great time of year yet. Yeah. Rolling out of the winter, um, sun's breaking through a bit and, bit, and I love the blossoms on the trees. It's cherry blossoms, it's a great time of year.

But yeah, that's multiple options. I think there's always something coming up that I'm looking for to do. Never happy in the current day. Oh my God, no. I'm always looking ahead. I'm like a shark. Thank you for that great question, Lauren.

I'd love to come along to Arizona innings fest sometime. Next one comes from Jason Wessner, OK, assistant underling of not having an official title, but doing what needs to be done. And that's important. And thank you. Thank you. Peace over. And that's important. And thank you. Thank you. Peace service. And Jason is doing a shout out. I don't think we've had it just someone calling it a shout out before. Is this the first time? Is this the first time for everything? No, it's been done before. Sorry,

I apologize. But it's rare. That's what I'm saying. Yes. The point is it's rare, Dave. It's not the first time. That doesn't matter. That's, sometimes it's enough. You are enough Dave. More than enough, thank you. And Jason Ratz. I wanted to thank all the Patreons for being awesome and give a special shout out to

Aidan. Now, Aidan's told me how to pronounce his last time. Here I think we say Coglin. That name I could see it in my mind as soon as he said Aiden and now I was like, here we go. But it's also like a Coughlin. Coughlin is it? No, that doesn't just what it could look like. But if you've been told, what have you been told, do you think? I can't remember. Because I say it wrong because I always say Coglin and he says, that's not right. Oh gosh. Oh my God. Oh gosh. Do you want to can you Google pronunciation of Coughlin while I continue to talk or vice versa? Yes. I didn't continue. No, hang on. I didn't. I didn't.

I didn't share that continues. I didn't share that continues from Jason. Oh, you know, have you heard, you know the term, are you chasing? I'd never been asked that before, but walking home from this very studio last week, a couple of guys stopped me and I'll sit on my virtual walking along the road. I go, you guys chasing? Is it like you want some drugs? Yeah, and I said, what? Sorry.

Oh, no, it's like, you know anyone who's chasing? I said, I said, no, and they they're like you sure you're not chasing? I said no, I'm sure and and a reminder of this time where a friend's boyfriend at the time, ex-boyfriend's name was Jason and he was asked that question at a party by a friend. He's chasing. Yeah. Why? I don't know if that is is really loving, confusing, interacting. Well, I've got what you want. What do I want?

What do I want? Wait, are you chasing or not? Yeah, I'm chasing. Yeah. Jason Moore. I'm Jason Moore. Yeah, Moore. It's Jason Moore.

I might have an answer for how to say CEO, UGHLA and the surname. This is from howtopronounce.com. This has four ratings, this pronunciation. Haven't heard it yet. Let's all do it together, bring it to the mic. Here we go. Coglin. Coglin.

Oh, that's what I say. Coglin. Coglin. Oh, wow, that sounds like a real gruff voice. Coglin. Coglin. Coglin. Coglin.

You're Coglin here. I'm Coglin here. Gaglin. Gaglin. Gaglin. You can't go to Gaglin. I'm such a caglin. One more, one more. Coglin. Young person saying it. And they said annoying. It's like they don't know that they're dad. So what's your friend saying again?

Coglin. I don't want to have to tell you again. Oh, hang on. Oh, I found it. I found one of the places where Aiden corrected me on a who knew it, um, question, Colin. Colin. I mean, Aiden Colin. I don't want to, this is Aiden Colin. I don't want to start beef with Aiden, but I've called into Hadaprinowst.com. You're pronouncing it correctly. Well,

it is his name. I'm, I'm, I'm going to allow A Make a call on that one. I found two more. Let's see. We can get it. Callin'. Callin'. Ooh, callin'. Callin'. Okay, that's different, okay? And finally. Carglin'.

Hmm, Carglin. Carglin'. Sorry, mate. Wow, so when I say it like that, it's not, you're not just annoyed at me because I'm saying it in this new, weird way, you haven't heard before. It's because people do that to you every day.

Yes. Anyway, Jason continues. Are you chasing? It's really funny. Talking about maybe, maybe they'll stand up and they got to trust, stand up. Good question. But Jason continues to be saying,

my wife and I run a music studio and I handle the admin side of things. I'm not great with organizing, so I recently asked for help from the WhatsApp group. And Aiden was caught enough to help me streamline our system to make things a lot easier for me when we get new students signing up. I was so lovely, isn't it?

So there's a Patreon WhatsApp group full disclosure, we're not in there, we don't know what goes on, but sounds lovely. Yeah, haven't been invited. And frankly, wouldn't accept even if it was now. Yeah, right. It's been that long, probably for the best. I imagine they're being really honest in there about the show. Anyway, and I can't handle that too fragile, but. We had, honestly. Yeah, it says, this really is the nicest corner of the internet, and I can't handle that too fragile part. We hate honesty. Yeah, it says this really is the nicest corner of the internet and I really appreciate being part of it.

Hey, we appreciate you being a part of it too, Jason. Appreciate you. Really appreciate that, appreciate you. Finally, this week we got one from Donna Zyber. I would have said Zyber, but luckily, Donna put in brackets pronounced like Zyber. Donna Zyber. Unfortunately Donna didn't put in a how to pronounce cyber So if I'm saying that different how you do that doesn't really help us anyway, uh, Donna's

Title is Donna source wrecks Archivist of all do go on things older than Matt if there are such things. Well, yeah Big bang. Exactly. Yeah. Some dinosaurs. Yeah. Some. Yeah.

Some of the older ones. Well, the original, do you remember the original? Why don't you remember? You were probably a baby. Yeah, but I was around before them. Donna's offering us a fact writing. You're always 70 years behind in Ethiopia. Right now it's 2016. Here's why. Oh, and a link. Oh, oh my God. I'm going to do my own research.

You're about to be re-crawled here. I'm not going to sit up. Never going to give. Never going to give. Yeah, it does feel a bit like that. Oh, it's quite a long article. So most countries follow the Gregorian calendar, which is such a great name for a calendar, or a boy or a girl. Ethiopians follow their own ancient calendar. It's incredible. The Ethiopian calendar goes by the belief that Jesus Christ was born in 7 BC,

that is 5,500 years after God's promise to Adam and Eve and started counting days from that year on. There you go, so close. So they reckon that we're just a short seven years off. Right, so the he was born before Christ. Yeah, I think Christ came seven years before Christ. That's hard to remember. Yeah, I think I think Christ came seven years before Christ. That's hard to remember. Yeah, I'm just a little some sort of a... Yeah. Wouldn't that have created like a tear in the space I'm continuing? Yeah.

Because born for is born. Anyway, um, bit of fun there. Hey, we're just having a bit of fun. Yeah, always. Thank you so much to, uh, to Donner for that. I'd never heard that. Do you know that? I didn't know that about Ethiopia, no. Because you know your way around Africa slightly.

Well, you know what, map? Yeah, you know. I've looked at a map now a few capitals. It's a capital of Ethiopia. Add a sub-a-bar. Oh, great name. But I didn't realize, and there's funny that out of all the countries in that area, they sound like they're the only one. Yeah, sure.

Sure. I mean, Donna didn't specifically say that the others were in as well. You're right. Exactly. The other East African countries who knows. Thank you so much for that, Donna. The next thing we like to do is think of fewer of our other great Patreon supporters. Just when we come up with a bit of a game to play based on the topic of hand. What are we thinking?

What do we talk about today? Men in black. Men in black. What color they are, that sounds fun. Do we reckon we can come up with nine colors? No. That's the only trick. The bad system is a bit like the alphabet system isn't it?

Aricon. Let's do it. Let's try. Let's do it. I know they men though, or we'll have to give them, you know, like maybe Let's try. Let's do it. And are they men though? Or we'll have to give them, you know, like maybe they could be something else. Oh yeah. What about we say what they are and what color they're in?

Yes. And I think we do it like this. I read out a name. Yeah. You say what they are. Okay. I say the color. Okay.

You read out a name. I say what they are. You say that. Love this system. Yeah, okay, great. I think I'm gonna get it. Yeah. I think I explained it pretty well. Hey, it's episode four 20, by the way, so... Oh my gosh, well, I'm just sitting here and blazing.

Yeah, you're gonna blaze one. Can I ask you a question? Are you Jason? Yeah. I'm Jason, and I'm blazing. We are a couple of pretty rad. Oh, let me just puff on this. My asthma puffer.

I would have, someone suggested a while ago and I was meant to do it. I wasn't until we just had that break before the day of confirmed this was an episode of 4. I thought it was 4. 10 this whole time. See, maybe you are. A lot of good time. A lot of good time. A lot of good time. you are, you know. A lot of the time.

A lot of the time. A lot of the time. What if maybe the man in black just took an episode of, that's a whole week. 419's the last week. Could be. I don't recall it at all. Is it because we haven't recorded it yet?

I can't remember. We haven't. Oh, I care that would be fine. All right. Everyone, but what a great episode it was. So that's, you know what? Not the wildest mistake I made there thinking this was 419, seeing as the 419th episode we're talking about.

Yes. It is absolutely right. Alright, first up, I'd love to thank from Victoria in British Columbia, Canada, Tyson Rand. And Tyson Rand is the Pomeranian Inn. Blue. Oh, that's quite a good combo. Yeah, that's a good combo. And Tiserand is the Pomeranian in blue. That's quite a good combo. Yeah, that's a good combo.

They're the Puffy Dog. Little Puffy Orange ones. Oh, that's fantastic. They're with a little Puffy tail. Is it the same, you'll know this, the dog in the cartoon Christmas special of the Nanny, was that a Pomeranian? Oh, the cartoon Christmas special.

Yeah. You know, they open opening credits in cartoon form? They did a whole episode like that. It's a Christmas. Oh, that's quite a no. I'm looking at it. I've googled it. This looks like a bit of a poem.

This is a poem. Okay. Thanks for putting it into the terms I understand. Do we want to go for one for one? Or should I do five you do for? Let's just, I'll stick with me. Okay, I'm still, and. I'm going nanny dogs. She does have a pomeranian. Oh, there you go Chester. Yes Chester and it talks in that episode And then it's on the show too. Oh, okay. Oh hang on here. We go on the nanny

It's one of the things on Google or it gives you a sentence but it starts off with her at nanny Commer was friend dresses dog in real life? The adorable Pups full name was actually Chester. Whoa. Which is Mitt's Babcock's dog on the show. Ah, CC. Ah, so hang out with, that's why I was stoked to see. And it looks like a poem but I'm just confirming.

TV show, Chester, dog. It's important. Dog breed, pomeranian confirmed Is that wild? How do I why would I know that you're incredible because you love dogs? I'm incredible Next up I'd love to say you got down here from haggard's this city name crumlin from in Great Britain crumlin and it's Cream Creser cream, cream cracker. I love it.

Because it's spelled like the Irish crack with an ER. So maybe it's a cream cracker, a pun. Oh, OK. Well, maybe not. But they're from Crumblin, which sounds like it. And they are the top hats in sandy yellow. Ooh, nice. So I want to use it like someone wearing a top hat in the Yellow. Ooh, nice. So I want to, is it like someone wearing a Top Hat in the rest of them,

Sandy Yellow? Is the Top Hats in the Yellow? I think they're... Or everything. I think they're everything. That's good stuff. Everything they're wearing, that is. Yeah.

That's what they're in. Uh, thank you so much to Cream Cracker. Uh, I'd also like from Donkaster and Great Britain, it's Amy. Amy, one of the ladybugs in. Purple. Oh, that's nice. Ladybug and purple. Could you, can you get purple ladybugs?

You can get yellow and red ones, right? Yeah, I don't know if you can get purple. Hmm. But maybe they're purple and then they're wearing like a red jacket over the top. Oh, that would look good. Oh, that would be a nice combination. I mean red is in purple. Wow makes up about 50% of it I believe. Wow Well, you know

Next up I'd love to think I might even be in this city right now. I'm not sure from San Francisco It's DD Mandark. DD Mandark I want to know. It's DD Mandark. DD Mandark. Absolutely incredible. You love this one. What about the chimps in? Oh, alabaster.

I don't know what does that mean. Is that a color? I don't know. Alabaster. It's good word. What does it mean? Alabaster. A translucent form of gypsum or calcite, typically white?

There you go. Okay. Why? Alabaster White, that's what I meant. Alabaster that makes me think of Alexian Cam on their finding Drago show. Todd noise, other story was the Alabaster Wars. Oh. So why it's in here?

Could be. Still ringing around from three, four years ago. Yeah, it wasn't that podcast, finally Drago, fantastic stuff. That was DD Amanda, I can do you want to do one more? Iessy stuff? That was DD Mandar. Can you do one more? I'll do one more. Yeah, I'd love to do one more. Please. Finally for me, I'd love to thank from Kotakel in New York.

Wow, Kotakel. Kiran Ligon Casey. Wow. Kiran, if they're in the Trudish Club, I'd say Kiran Frigon Casey. Yeah. That's a great name. Kiran is the, see what you do with this one. The blue whales in pink.

That's good. Yeah, I think that would look very sharp. I'm imagining one of those sort of 60s fluffy dressing gowns. Yes. Wrapped around a blue whale. Oh man. Not a frill. That's a kind of blue whale I'd love to hang out with.

Yeah, a frill. That's a kind of blue whale I'd love to hang out with. Yeah, a fashionable whale. So this episode comes out on the 8 to the 11th. No, I will not be in San Francisco. I will be far, far away. In Seattle. Oh, baby, the boot, the boot, the ball in, I'm telling it. If there's a Fraser walking, you better believe I'm on it.

They're better, me one. They're better. They better be. I haven't looked into anything like that, but I'm sure there's got to be a of walking to a, you better believe I'm on it. They're better, me one. They're better. They're better, me. I haven't looked into anything like that, but I'm sure there's going to be a phrase walking to a, see that. Well, that's where I showed you. They have that sculpture of that thing, like a monster under a bridge that's like crushing a Volkswagen Beetle.

Oh. And it's actually a Beetle car inside that they just covered in concrete or whatever. And I think that's worth a look. Yeah, because when we were I was short listing for our US tour that sadly couldn't happen this month I hope to do it next year and I'm you better believe I'm gonna see this monster whatever it is. It's funny I'm still going on the little holiday that I was planning at the end of the tour. Yeah, it's just not I really Yeah, do you want to thank a few for us Dave. Absolutely. We'd love to do that. It's the the freemont trolls I'm talking about. The freemont troll even looked that up. It's very cool looking. I would like to thank from Bell Bird Park in Queensland,

beautiful, sunny place and the home of Trudy Lawson. Trudy Lawson of course is a magpie in Trudy Lawson. Trudy Lawson, of course, is a Magpie in lime green. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. That would really, the green would really pop off the black and white of the Magpie. Yeah, that's good. And I'm talking to Australian Magpie,

not those beautiful Irish ones that we saw together. Oh, that's awesome. That is a beautiful, I think this giant Magpie is fantastic. Yeah, they're just not as quite as hot. No, they're not as hot. They're just a strong looking bird. Yeah, exactly. You trust it with a beautiful wobble. Oh, lovely sound.

I think it sounds pretty much like that. That's exactly right. Oh my god, I just realized that they're from Belbird. And that's where I had my brain somehow connected to Magpie and other bird. What about this incredible Sanding Place from Happy Valley. Happy Valley in South Australia. Love a Sanding Place for Catherine Kerr. A bottle of Guinness. In, what about a fuchsia? Oh yeah. A bottle of Guinness. In or in.

What about a fuchsia? Oh yeah. Like a few, you're picturing like a fuchsia stubby buddy. Yeah, I think my brain just to unpack this. There's a happy valley in Contra Victoria as well. And I remember going there with my dad one time and he was like, and there was Guinness on tap. And he's like, oh, this is fantastic.

You don't see Guinness on tap, when he pubs around here, we'll have a couple of, we got, we, we, we got it. We didn't see it, we got it in doubt. Yeah, I was about 13, so I can't, I can't remember if I was able to have a sip. What's the rule here? It says a meal, you're allowed to be underage or something?

Yeah. For every chip on your plate, you can have one chip. One chip, one chip. One chip, one chip. It's a good rule. The chip is a policy. Thanks to Catherine. I'd like to thank from Billings in MTUS.

Where's MTUS? I've got a lot of talent. We've got to look this up. It is Billings in Montana. Fantastic elevation, 952 meters. Beautiful place. Sounds fantastic for Ace Andrews. Not too far away from where I am right now in Seattle.

Yes, that's right. Ace, we've really missed that name. Ace Andrews, isn't that? Ace Andrews is fantastic. And congratulations for downing five planes. I think that's how you get the name. That's what the In the Bubble won. Billings, we just lost our Jack Billings,

the Saints player, to Melbourne this year. What? He's an hour demon. So I'm going to say, Ace is a demon end. You've heard of Jet Black. How about Jet Brown? Demon in Jet Brown. That's what happens when I do a loop to loop. Jet Brown. Jet Brown. Oh, you don't do a loop to loop. I jet brown pants.

Oh, you don't do a loop to loop while you're doing a jet brown. It's going to go everywhere. A gentleman never does that. And finally, Dave, who you got to thank? I'd like to thank from Durham in, would you believe it? North Carolina. Oh, quick fun fact. This is where the first sort of commercially successful like mini golf course

Strauman, it was called Thistle Do. Is that a pun? Jury's still out on it. We think it might be a pun. We've got our best researchers looking into it. And if you don't like that for a fact, did you know that Venus fly traps are native to North Carolina? Wow, and we'll be visiting North Carolina on this trip? I won't. I'm going to get to Gary and then I really want to, I mean, I don't even

think I'm gonna get to Ohio. I just don't have enough time. I wanted to get to Ohio. I wanted to get to Pennsylvania. I wanted to travel to Golden Marl. I wanted to have a creamy and Vermont, but we have to save that for the tour. Because the Golden Marl, you got to really keep going to get up to the creamy. Yes. So I appreciate it. The Golden Mile has a big kink at the end. So a big creamy kink.

This is crazy. I also want to go to Mothman town. Where's that again? It's in Virginia. Oh, right. Maybe West Virginia. Got it. Where is it?

It's called. Got to keep going on the Golden Mile. Yeah, yeah. The Golden Mile is going. Oh my god, my. Yeah, the caramile is a bit of a semi-circle. So thank you so much to Nikki Ace, Katherine, I don't think we didn't give any, we got so distracted by Durin North Carolina. Oh my god, we didn't actually officially say thank you. Oh, Nikki, thank you so much.

To Nikki, that's right, from North Carolina. When I think Nikki, I think Nikki 6. So Nikki is the numeral 6. The number 6, and they are wearing a... Moves. Oh yeah. Six and Moves. Six and Moves.

That's fantastic. Thank you so much to Nikki A's, Catherine Trudey, Kieran Deedy, Amy, Cream and Tyson. Thanks, Cream. Thanks, Cream. The last two. I'm, I'm, I'm cream. I'm cream. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I. What we were saying in Ireland, if you think about it. That's when you are so big and people have said, yes, do you for so long, you could just say,

I'm going to be a character. I feel like I've got a memory of doing this Patreon section of an episode in Wemmarin Ireland and that coming up and just crying, sitting on the floor, recording it and crying with laughter. Is that my remembering going, Chris? I'm cream. I'm cream.

The man's a genius. That leaves only the TripDitch Club section to go, Dave. And we have quite a few inductees in. Are you ready to welcome them in? I absolutely am. Should we explain the TripDitch Club? It's our hall of fame, our clubhouse to the stars, people that have been on the shout out level

or above for three consecutive years, they've already had a shout out, but they've stayed true, they've stuck with us through thick and thin. Thicken thin and cream. And they, and whipped. Yes, and they, I don't know if we've mentioned this before, but each of the inductees also get a star

on the trip ditch club walk of fame. That's right. And it's a long street now. It's a long street. It's getting longer every every single week. I mean, it's really good though for a street cricket. So we go out there and we, it's a tippy run. And as everyone knows, I don't know, I'm telling you, Dave, you know, the rules are sickening out. One hand one about. Of course. If you hit it into Mum's Windows. Mum's Windows. I'm not Mum's Windows. You're out if you hit it into Mum's Windows. Dad could give shit about the Windows.

Mum's Windows. I was trying to be nostalgic. I came out weird. What was my childhood like? Crame. Jess is usually behind the bar, shaking up cocktails, making food, but you've taken over this week to create a cocktail. Yes, that's right. Well, we got the men in black.

Oh wow. Cocktail, weenies, and um, they're just, yeah, they're, Frank Furters, dropped in black food dye. Wow. And the cocktails, of course, are the men in blacks. And they are just a Guinness. Finally enough, it's come up again. Guinness with a gingerbread man in it. Oh, wow, just dipped. Yeah, dipped.

I thought I'd actually get one. Gingerbread man in black is what we call it, but you can shorten that to men in black. It's pretty gross. I don't think anyone, I think we've only made a couple, just for show. We don't anticipate a lot of the men. You normally book a band for this.

I do book a band and this week performing all the hits off the Man in Black soundtrack as it was originally performed. David Schwimmer is here. And you, that's just coincidence. Is that coincidence? Yeah. That's it.

Or the other thing. I didn't even know that he was involved. I didn't know this was the topic. I didn't know this was the topic. I didn't know that he wanted to, he, on his rider, or on, you know, his management got in contact with him. Schwim is in. He's happy to swim to the club.

He'll, he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll, think or swim. That's, that's, that's a spin off podcast we gotta do eventually about the films of David Schwim. Surely he hasn't been in that many, he hasn't. Well, there's all those ones with where he's a zebra or a giraffe or something. Oh, right. Okay.

What are they called? Madagascar. Madagascar. Yeah. Didn't even know he was in there. Fantastic. But I, all I saw in the email was he would like to perform the Men in Black Sandrack. And I was like, that's a bit weird. Now it makes sense.

Yeah, that's a pull. All right. He wants to show Will that he could have done it. And I'm on the door. I've got the guest list here. We've got a few names in tonight. I'm gonna read them out. Dave's gonna hop them up with a bit of, you know, I'm gonna say,

weakish wordplay based on either their, whether from or their name, but he's doing that with love. That's the most important thing. If you hear your name, run on in, theater the mind going on here, I make a sales at home and hang around for the after party where David Schwimmer, fronting his band, Sink or Schwim,

playing the hits of Will. Of Will, the men in the men in Black Sandtrack. Is he going to play brackets, not your head brackets? Yeah, he's doing them all. Oh, it's fantastic. He'll also even have a go while Wild West. Really? But no matter, we just couldn't afford to pay him

the extra to play the Rembrandt's. He won a clap. He won't do the key. He won't knock clap along. He won a clap. It costs too much. Yeah, and we had to triple the fee for the clap. Yeah, and he said, I'll do it for $3 billion,

but I won't have fun. Yeah. Well, we don't't wanna see the swim sad. Oh my gosh, no. If you get David Schwimmer in, you wanna get the fun-loving party animal that we all know and love, which has been top cast as anyway. So I'm gonna read out some great new induct days

in the TripTitch Club. Dave's gonna hop them up. Here we go. Here we go from Cullingwood here in Melbourne, Victoria. It's Liz Brandt. I'm gonna rant about Liz Brandt. Is it a brand? I was gonna rant, you have a call here.

From Hastings, also here in Victoria. It's Hardy Russell. Let me Russell up a Heidi for you. What is that? Fantastic. From Alanguoren, again again right here in Melbourne, Victoria. It's Natalie Spirison. Is there a conspiracy?

Or is Natalie one of the coolest people I've ever met? This goes all the way to the top. Where Natalie is at the top. From Cobra again, just down the road here in Victoria, it's Jess Mitchell. Well like a best Mitchell. Jess Mitchell. What's going on? Why was there a big rush of Melbourne supporters?

Whenever this was for a user- Why do we do that? What do we do that week? We set up a stall at Melbourne Central. Yes. We sign people up with clipboard. I'm sorry, can I just borrow five minutes to your time? Oh, that's a lovely shirt.

Now I've got your attention. Can I get this on this board? Oh, that's a lovely shirt. Now I've got your attention. Can I get this on this board? Oh, that's a great beard. I get that a lot. I'm like, don't give me compliments. You're gonna make getting compliments feel weird. Now, the other day I got stopped by someone outside South Yara Station and I was wearing

Kirsty Weebeck's T-shirt. Her branded merch, I should say. I haven't taken one of her many added S-T-shirts. You spilled coffee alone yourself. She said, she said, she's a new boy that. I haven't taken one of her many added ST shirts. You spilled coffee all over yourself. She said, she's a new bar. No, I was wearing one of her fantastic shirts and the person goes, oh, that's a cool shirt. Where's that from?

And I said, oh, I actually got this from Melbourne Committee in Kirsty Webeck. And they said, oh, who's that? And I started singing Kirsty's praises for about three or four minutes. So, and they're like, oh, where do they perform? I was like, oh, you could see them all over the town. Their gig list will be online.

You should check them out. And then I said, I've got to go now, bye bye. And then I was, I didn't wait till they're time. I told you that Kirstie weep. That's not Kirstie weep at all. That's great. 10, the tables. Yeah.

It's Kirstie pay you much for that. That's it. You got a card, I assume. Of course. I'd also like to welcome into the club from East Victoria Park in Western Australia It's Aaron whole beach look this ain't no half beach. This is a whole beach at the big beach with Aaron from

Valley for Mott in probably non-hase in Dublin Island It is Aiden McCattams Aiden Mick Adams Mick Adams Duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh Can I tell you say it's pronounced Aiden? Yeah, I think so. Great. I'm so sorry if it's not Aiden. I'd also love to welcome in from the woodlands in Texas. Sounds like you're, what are you hiding from? Why are you in a show grave or something?

It's Amy Keller. They ain't no smeller. It's Amy Keller. Amy Keller, no smeller. I mean, I would call that damning with faint price. Lee and I smell. What about what a great smell? Yeah, but I thought that sounded weird. Okay, that kind of sniffed. I like I sniffed them a bit too much. All these things went through

my head, don't you worry about that. Okay. Okay, let's go to be something better. Anyway, from Sydney, oh, God's country country Ohio, it's Laura Denny. Laura Denny, worth more than a penny. Again, that would, that, you can be saying, Laura's worth two pennies. What about you've heard of a penny dreadful? This is Denny undreadful. Now we get somewhere, now we get somewhere. I still need you to fix up your Keloan I'd also like to welcome in from Charleston in South Carolina. It's David Kaplow. This person makes me want to do a dance a famous dance the Kaplow The jokies that they're from Charleston. You get that? You do? You do?

Yeah, great. On your David. Uh, second last from Berlin in Deutschland, oh, heck, this name, Yut Martin. Oh, hop in my Yut, which Martin, I make sense to use, what we call it, what a utility vehicle. Utility vehicle with a tray. Yut Martin's, um, something about Doc Martin's, Doc Oat.

Yeah, well, you, this very episode you were giving people the title of Doc. Maybe you could just show that on you. Please, Doc Oat. Doc Oat. I think that's awesome. That's fantastic. Go on in.

Finally, first one here from, oh, can I only assume from people in the future of the malls, there's no address here. It's David Plant. Oh my God, this is an alien if I've ever heard one no address Literally says planting name You're either spawn a steve it Aren't you David David? Oh very very quiet there David. Where are you?

David plant David plant I'm going on a rant. Oh, yeah, positive rant. Positive rant about David Plant. That's good stuff. Anything I should read to Amy Keller. Yeah, and I don't, and you can't. Oh, yeah, what a plant.

There's gonna be some better about plant. I'll water you every day. You are the, what do they call call a photo synthesis? Synthesis. Yeah. Anything with that? I'd like to photosynthesize you. Yeah. That sounds weird though.

Yeah, it does. I'd recant that for David Plant. David recant. We're getting colder. David Pant. David Pant. You make me David Pant. Oh, I actually had to change my David Pants before because I spilled coffee all over

me. Yeah, I feel like I'm going to be a little bit more patient. I'm going to be a little bit more patient. I'm going to be a little bit more patient. I'm going to be a little bit more patient. I'm going to be a little bit more patient. I'm going. You make me David Pant. I actually had to change my David Pants before because I spilled coffee all over. Went from shorts to jeans and a hot day. No good. And what about Amy Keller? A fantastic spella.

Oh yeah. Couldn't be any swelter than Amy Keller. That's good. Thank you so much. I'll be a fortune teller. Things are looking good for you. Thanks so much to all of you. And please make yourselves at home, David. You say, oot. I'll take that as you're the German here.

Doc oot. Doc oot. David Laura, Amy, Aiden, Aaron, Jess, Natalie, Heidi and Liz. Welcome in one and all. Make yourselves right at home. And yeah, I can't wait to see the swim up there. Yeah, enjoy them. The wrapping styleings, wrapping right at home and yeah, I can't wait to see the swim up there. Yeah, enjoy them, the wrapping stylings, wrapping stylings.

I'm sure he'll probably say that. Is he gonna do, like, other Will Smith movie songs like Get and Jiggy with the- He'll do Get and Jiggy with the- And Willie do Hitch or whatever's called Switch. What's it called? What was that one? Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, He did one from the movie Hitch. Oh, okay, great. He'll probably do. He takes requests, but as long as those requests were originally sung by Wilson. He's a picturally a guy. Well, he's, you live into a Rabia Knights from when they read did Aladdin. Oh, great. That's fantastic. A lot of options there. Another one, Haysexy lady.

Haysexy lady. I think that'll be really good. From the swim. I think the swim could finally do that song justice. I look forward to, we'll probably be there when he gets the call from Will Smith that says, that's your song now. I'll be embarrassed doing this ever again. So, will that bring us to the end of the episode, Dave? Anything to tell people before we go?

Hey, we'll be back next week with another block. Tastic episode. We're into the top three next week. Talks to you in the bronze position. Fantastic. But thank you so much for the same position. I don't know what that means. I feel like you could have been something. I'll work that out in the next week. Okay. Right.

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