Two In The Think Tank - 421 - Skinwalker Ranch

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, Jess and Dave, just jumping in really quickly at the top here to make sure that you are across all the details for our upcoming Christmas show. That's right, we are doing a live show in Melbourne Saturday December the 2nd, 2023, our final podcast of the year, our Christmas special. It's downstairs at Morris House, which usually be called the European beer cafe. On Saturday December the 2nd, 2023 at 4.30pm, come along, come one, come all and get tickets at doogawonpod.com. Hello and welcome to another episode of Dugo. My name is Dave Hornke and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins, hello Jess.

Starting point is 00:00:50 Hello David, your bottom is looking nice today. Thank you. I'm glad I installed that mirror on the floor so you can see it while we record. Yeah, I've got a stop wearing skirts to the work though. To the work. To the work. To the work. Well this week we are joined, not by Matt Stewart, he is a gal venting around the United

Starting point is 00:01:07 States of America. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead.

Starting point is 00:01:15 He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead.

Starting point is 00:01:23 He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. Hello, Sam. Sam, it feels good to request that and feels good to be here. I'd say that much for nothing. Sometimes you just gotta ask for what you want. That's right. And you have done that. I have done that. I said, hey, what up? I slid into your DMs.

Starting point is 00:01:32 Yeah. I'm far emoji, far emoji. What up? And then I said, how you absolute two baddies? What up? What do you respond with? And Dave said, wait, how do you? We're not bad people.

Starting point is 00:01:41 Well, I'm a good person. I was like, Dave, it's how the young kids talk these days It doesn't get lit a if that's low. What was low? That's low. That's low That's love to love we speak English on this point. I know I know I brought having some fun I'm muckin' around and having a fun and there's nothing wrong with chill out fun is chill out Fun is fun funny is fun. I'm just putting my fun seat belt on it That's so kind. You can't just say that at home.

Starting point is 00:02:06 You've got to be safe. You've got to be safe, God. But what an absolute pleasure it is to have you here this morning. And what an honor. A do go on now to be here. I mean, not just a friend of the podcast. You know, and people say that when it's like, oh, you're a friend of the podcast in that we've had you on.

Starting point is 00:02:19 You don't mean it. You've been on your podcast. Yeah, but like a friend, IRL, dare I say. Well, do you know what? I was there when I think I would like to say you two met for the first time. Woo! At day, Dave Warnicky dates the entire audience

Starting point is 00:02:35 which I was in the show with and you came along with your pod, no, your, your sin, radio buddy at the time. Yeah, and that's right. And, uh, and Jess came along and I was like, I've met Jess before and then I was like, oh my god, do you want me to introduce you to Dave Warnocky? And you said absolutely not, I don't like the guy. Because I'd already met him. How do we met? Yeah, because you must, I think I made the whole story up. But it was probably only one of the first

Starting point is 00:02:59 couple of times I'd met. I like to think so. I like to think so. It was early in all of our friends. That was the first time I got the Sammy Silver Approval, which meant you really started looking at me in a new light. That's right. Thank you. That was a great show. Wasn't a great show. I played Dave's Manage Jump, which is loosely based on a real life manager. Very loosely based, intentionally, basically that person. But were you really branded, renamed it the Samager? The Samage Jump. Sam the manager. That's good. Just clever stuff. From there we just don't stop joking.

Starting point is 00:03:29 We don't stop joking. Remember one of the first jokes I want to repeat here, but it was very full on and it was a weird thing to open with. And then it was fun for me. We could really judge a crowd that had hit it on board or whatever they went. They went, woo! Oh my god! They had got those three seconds. I think you guys should do another show together. I would love to, I would absolutely love to. Sorry to put that on the record.

Starting point is 00:03:50 Well, I'll tell you what was a weird thing and Matt Stewart brought this up. Gorgeous Matt Stewart, who I also made at a comedy night and Matt always brings up that I said to him, Andy Matthews told me to be nice to you tonight and it's my opening game, which I think is fun for me. I'm still recovering.

Starting point is 00:04:04 I'm still recovering, I'm still recovering. Matt and I've been feuding ever since. I want you to know, I wouldn't be kind to you otherwise. But I'm under strict instructions from Andrew Matthews. And he is watching. He is watching everything the absolute baddie. But I, when we did that show, Matt Stewart said to me, because then we did a few other shows, Dave and I did a few other shows.

Starting point is 00:04:25 And I slowly, I was the manager in the first show, but then I kind of confused myself because I was kind of me and kind of also Dave's manager for the rest of the show. So I, and I will, this is my public apology today, if I will apologize for the other shows, because I don't really remember if I was me or a manager in those shows.

Starting point is 00:04:44 It really blurred the lines between a character I was trying to play. And also myself, because having a lot of fun out there. Yeah. Which, you know, early days of comedy. God, you love him? Back when it was fun. Back when it used to be fun and before we were all jaded. Oh, we jaded a bit of now.

Starting point is 00:04:59 Well, aren't we all? But we still all get along in our own way. We've never sat in a room together. In our own way. In our own way. We do get along in our own way. We've never sat in a room together. In our own way. In our own way. We do get along. We do in our own way. In our own way. In our own way.

Starting point is 00:05:11 We don't have each other's numbers, but you talk to my manager after yours. That's right. My manager is you. That's right. That's right. And I did tell Dave before that he's my emergency contact. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:22 He found that out in a crisis and he helped me. I actually found out I was somebody's emergency contact when it was like an emergency. That's a attack effect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a brutal way to find out. Yeah, people are heads up. But in the way, I stepped up.

Starting point is 00:05:37 You were I stepped up though. That's you though. I took you to the hospital. You had to do it. You've done your back really bad. Because I'm 32 years old and I got out of bed. Yeah, yeah. That did it. Yeah, but with with your one Jess is it the kind of thing that I make the call and they say oh You're this is the amazing contact you're like really I went to school with her I remember just a perk and this shot

Starting point is 00:05:55 From Apple Jack it was a good friend of mine Yeah, yeah, I do go do go on will come first They don't know the true The true one takes the key to the image yeah Yeah, yeah, like Jess please're like, just please help me. I'm like, oh, my God. I can't. If I leave, then precious the buttons.

Starting point is 00:06:09 There's no one else. No, no. I'm alive. Dr. Carl's behind you. I'm here, mate. I'm here. I've got to. I'm always here. Actually, I got to.

Starting point is 00:06:17 And Dr. Carl does weekend hours from there. We're confused by the tap. No, and I look, as it turns out, I was into state. So she had told them, don't bother calling. It was my friend, Anna, who lives really close to me. Oh, okay, but. And his single and all of her family's in Perth. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:34 So I'm close by proximity, but also a close friend. But yeah, she had a fall. She had a fall. Yeah. And like, had damaged her eye, but I was at state, and couldn't help her. So then she was just alone in hospital. It was an absolute nightmare.

Starting point is 00:06:46 Oh no, this way you get a good day. There's a secondary. It's your boy's baby. No matter what. If I was into state, I wouldn't make it back. I don't think I had a child of a helicopter. Someone you've never met. Of course I'll be there.

Starting point is 00:06:57 Don't ever think about it. I know how he does it. I know, of course he always does it. Anna, baby, I got you. It's not for me, baby. Now, Sammy, this is a big time of year in the Dugo on podcasting calendar because we are celebrating blockbuster toba slash blow of ember now. Yes.

Starting point is 00:07:11 Yes. And we count down our most requested topics of the year we put out a big online poll. Yeah. A lot of people voted and we are giving the people what they want in order. Now I'm just having a little check here. This is the third most requested topic of the year. You can't believe it. Two below the third most requested topic of the year. You can't believe it.

Starting point is 00:07:26 Two below me in most requested guest. That's right. That's huge. We've got the most requested guest and the third most requested topic. Together, this could be the most powerful episode. It feels powerful. It feels powerful. Is the third most requested guest to be on the most requested episode?

Starting point is 00:07:41 It'll be any methods for sure. Surely. Let's bring it all back. Again, it's here requesting it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, huge. We're up to the third most requested. It's my turn to do the report.

Starting point is 00:07:52 It's just to buy a lot of people. So I'll read out the name shortly. It's exciting. But I do have a question to get us under the topic. I always start with the question. I always start with the question. Here's my question. It's a loose question.

Starting point is 00:08:03 Anyway, which US state? I've got a few different facts here for you, for this state. You can jump in and work it like that. If you don't have to pick one or 50 shot here, Canada buzz in. Sure, US state. I'm going to say, USA. No, Dave, you want to have a crack?

Starting point is 00:08:22 Technically he's covering quite a few there. He's covering quite a few. He's covering all of it. Could be a part of that. It is a part of that. Okay, so half you want to have a crack? Technically he's covering quite a few there. He is covering quite a few. But I said all of it could be a part of that. It is a part of that. Okay, so half a point to say I'm a part of. I'm a part of. I'm going to say Canada.

Starting point is 00:08:30 That is incorrect. Okay. So then your first clue is nicknamed the Beehive state. Oh. The Beehive state. Oh no, this one's what it is. Dave knows what it is. Do you?

Starting point is 00:08:41 Yeah, but it's a tricky one. Keep going with your clue, so. And I guess again. Yeah. You S.A. I mean, you're on the right. You're on the right. This is good. Do I get an half a point?

Starting point is 00:08:51 Because I've got a full point for getting it right, maybe. I would give you one third of a point. You bet. Yeah. Yeah. You, you, you, you, you, you, you're sitting there. Is it quite good? He's really good at jogging.

Starting point is 00:09:04 Because he's really good at drugging. Because it's not good at this sort of stuff. Yeah. Okay, what about capital salt lake city? A abbreviation, U-T. U-T-A. U-T-A. I knew it from the start, but I wanted to have some fun.

Starting point is 00:09:21 That's good. Because I love comedy, and I love to pop cast. I wouldn't have had a fucking clue what the B-Hive state is. I've heard that before. I reckon even you would have got to Salt Lake City and I would have been like, some like Sinny. Yeah. Is that maybe Utana and then maybe the abbreviation

Starting point is 00:09:36 might have got me there. But if that hadn't got me there, State Bird, California, Gull would have got me there. That would have been good. You could have at home of the Utah Jazz. Oh, you can't have that. You could have at home of the Utah Jazz. Oh, you can't. You know there's three questions.

Starting point is 00:09:48 It's just a tricky one. It's just a tricky one. Utah, more like me, tar. But I'm there. Is that something? I'll wrap that down. See, right there. So what are you saying, tar?

Starting point is 00:09:58 Me, tar, thank you. I love it when people just say tar. Me too. It sounds a bit aggroous. I'm just like, tar. Well it's because you take children to say tar before they can say thank you. Do you say tar to people now? Absolutely not.

Starting point is 00:10:09 I think as an adult or beyond maybe the age of five, saying tar is like so passive aggressive isn't it? I'm gonna start, you're gonna be, so I'm gonna get a coffee and go, tar. Yeah, tar, tar, tar, tar for now. Taf for now. Say tar for now. I mean, say tar for now, but. Taf for Sammy.

Starting point is 00:10:24 Taf for Sammy. Taf for Sammy. Say? Say tough for now, bud. Tough for Sammy. Tough for Sammy. Tough for Sammy. Say ta ta ta ta ta ta ta. Anyway, we're here to talk about Utah. Could I do that for a bit more? I can't. The third most requested topic is Utah.

Starting point is 00:10:35 Well, no, it's just something that exists inside Utah. Beehives. Beehives. And I hold a lot of soul. Oh god. No, this one's a bit of a paranormal Maybe a little bit of a spooky topic. Okay, would have loved a warning. Yeah, maybe don't listen to this one as you're trying to go to sleep in the dark Okay, you night light on you get a little spooky. Oh God. I don't get skew odd often. You got a but when I do oh, I guess

Starting point is 00:11:01 Get what? I get a call as the emergency contact Sam's had another spook. Thanks for just answering while I'm here. He's had a spook. He's had a spook. He's had. And I've got some notifications too. The air tag is closer than you think. Somebody has to. Somebody's got to. I'm a single guy. Somebody's got to be keeping an eye on you. Try and all times. I need to care.

Starting point is 00:11:33 And I want to do it. I want to bloody do it. You've said that. You've made that very clear. You've made that incredibly clear. So as I said, this has been suggested by a bunch of people. So sit back and relax as I read off some names for you. There we go.

Starting point is 00:11:44 It's been suggested by Dakota from Alabama. That's such a cool name. Bethany Brown from Vegas. of people so sit back and relax as I read off some names for you. There we go. It's been suggested by Dakota from Alabama. That's such a cool name. Bethany Brown from Vegas. No. It's just like having Matt here. It does look cool. Commenting on every fucking name.

Starting point is 00:11:54 I'm going to suit this one out. No, no, no, no, just make, you know, make some of this in the comments. I feel free to pick a favor. Spencer Libby from Oxford, Holly G from Utah. Holly G. Holly G, that must be Andrew G's relative. I can only assume. Michael Daly from Essex, Aaron Wolf from Daytona Beach.

Starting point is 00:12:11 Paul Jacob from Michigan, Neil Stapplen from Wisconsin. Phil Ellis from Hampshire, Andrew Mallard from Indiana, Brandon, oh, Brandon Castanada from Utah. That's good. That's a great name. That's a very good name. That's a great name. Alisonanada from Utah. That's good. That's a great name. That's a few from Utah. Alison Beverly Day from Utah. I love a three-pronged name. Me too. That's fun.

Starting point is 00:12:31 Is it Trouble Barrel? Is that what you call them? What do you call them? It's a double barrel if it's two. Double barrel. Double barrel. I'll say name it with a fantastic first name. Alison Beverly Day. Love it. So many good sounds in there.

Starting point is 00:12:41 Jackie Parsons from Perth. Martin Benson from Enison, Candy Claire. Oh God, these names are incredible. So good. And finally, Peter, Kinesler from Wilmington, North Carolina. That's the end of the podcast. See you later. Good night, Australia. We find it. I tell me that people suggested, thank the people, I never talked about the topic. Yeah, just want to go, McDonald's, so the McDonald's monopoly are. It's just one of thank you guys. It's just one of thank you guys for suggesting it

Starting point is 00:13:10 and good night. That would be a good topic, what do you agree? So bye. The topic, we know it done. The topic that they have suggested is skin walker ranch. Is this, is this bring any bells for you? That's disgusting. That's disgusting. It does, it's a skin walker this, is this ring any bells for you? That's the same as disgusting.

Starting point is 00:13:25 It does, it's a skin walker. What is the skin? Is that two words? Like, go, or one works, go, Walker. I think it's all one words, it's okay. Well, we're skin walker. It's, it's Luke Skinwalker's brother. Yes, that's correct.

Starting point is 00:13:36 Skinwalker Ranch. Skinwalker Ranch. Okay. It's a double bell name. And weird stuff can happen on a ranch. Oh my God. That's so, that's right. Well, apparently it's the most studied paranormal

Starting point is 00:13:45 hotspot in history, but like, now that I read that out, I'm like, what about the Area 51? Yeah. Sure they're zombies. Yeah. But it's definitely one that has been studied a lot. OK.

Starting point is 00:13:58 It's situated in Northeastern Utah. It's a 512-acre parcel of picturesquea-resque desolation and is famed as a hotspot for everything from poltergeist phenomena and crop circles to UFO sightings, dangerous electromagnetic forces, dancing fireballs and cattle mutilations. Oh my goodness. This is like Disneyland for spooky stuff. It does. It does.

Starting point is 00:14:24 It's amazing. You put them all in one area, you know. I mean, there's stuff happening all over, but if we can get them to come together like in a convention center of sorts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go to your spooky store. You go to one spot. Spooky store. See everything spooky.

Starting point is 00:14:36 Yeah, get it done. So, it's spooky, please. Yeah. Like on my bucket list, I want to see some spooky orbs and some kind of a hyena hybrid animal. I'd love to see some mutilated cattle police. Yeah, and they're like, we got the destination for you. Yeah, wow, that is spooky.

Starting point is 00:14:52 It's a bit weird. That is very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very Sammy's had a spook. A tiny little spook. I think it's go pretty smooth from here, as I say that. We'll see. So some people believe that parts of Northern Utah are the most active paranormal and supernatural hot spots on the planet. Wow. Lights in the sky, unusual humanoid figures,

Starting point is 00:15:19 and even big foot sightings have been witnessed in this area. That's surely why they're very branded as the B-Hive Stake. That's really cute. Yeah, and obviously if you say it is B-Hive, it's very cute. They've got B's are cute. Yeah, really cute. If you get close, if you get out real close, they're kind of fluffy.

Starting point is 00:15:35 Yeah, I get that. And they look kind of nice and cute. And Jerry Seinfeld always voices them. That's true. And he's cute. He is a cute. He's like, just say that. He is a cute guy. And I don't always bringing it up, but he is a cute guy.

Starting point is 00:15:47 Yeah, two letters for you. Cute tea. Mm-hmm. Let's just say that. I think Beza Cute. Yeah, Beza Cute. Do you not like them, Jess? No, no, no, I don't.

Starting point is 00:15:55 I am a little indifferent to Beza. What about the European ones, the bumblebees that are all fluff. They're all fluff. Yeah, I can get around that. All fluff, all scruff. I was walking the dog the other day and my partner, those bees around,

Starting point is 00:16:08 and he was like, are you a bit scared of bees? Cause he was a bit anxious and I was like, no. What are you? He's like, yeah. Like why? He goes, well, I got stung as a kid. I'm like, okay, and did you have an allergic reaction? He's like, no.

Starting point is 00:16:19 I'm like, then I don't think you have, I think the fear of bees is what if I am allergic and I don't know it and I have an anaphylactic So you know you're not allergic to bees. Yeah. So that's why I've got daydons stand by just in case you're allergic to bees. I've got the epi-beans strapped to my chin just in case. You're a full on day.

Starting point is 00:16:37 Either of you, have you ever had a friend that is terrified of birds or a you terrified of birds? No. I've got a friend who just cannot be near a bird when it flies. Oh, well, even like a seagull over here. Yeah, yeah. And I guess it's because they're swooping them, but not birds really ever like.

Starting point is 00:16:52 I guess they can kind of claw on a little bit. Sure. But I don't know. I think bees, I'd be more terrified of bees and I would about birds. Birds kind of feel a little bit shielded. I can punch a bird. You can, and you will have.

Starting point is 00:17:03 If it's coming right at me, I can punch a bird. You can knock it out. Yeah. One single. There's really big birds, like a big old eagle or something. I'm gonna be like, I'm good scared of you. But like, a pigeon slapping at me. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:15 Fucking come here. I'm going to out of the scar. My two mate, Hosspin, Pittle. You're gonna meet a coming bird. Bang bang. Yeah. You're just walking out of around punching birds in the face. I think they're coming to me just, it's self-defense.

Starting point is 00:17:28 You're not attacking them, you're not running up and you're hitting them like rocky training on the tiger's birds. And that's on record. No, I'm more cruel to you. The birds are prey, the heel's still saying, you should stop punching the eagles. I know, and I love that show.

Starting point is 00:17:44 They are majestic animals. They are majestic in their own way. Yeah. Anyway, can I go back to talking about spooky shit? Sure, but I can't. But in Bidding Summary, some people would find B spooky. Yeah, I, I, I, I, some people might. Yeah, you think they're cute. You think they're cutie-bituodies.

Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah, that's so cute. As some people find me, you'd let a cat all cute. There's something for everyone here. Yeah. Yeah, I get the horn. You might think Bigfoot. Hello. Big feet. That might think Bigfoot. Hello. Big feet.

Starting point is 00:18:06 That's right. So, my to the strange activity is concentrated in and around the Ewan Tab basin. I didn't look up how to say it. I wouldn't worry about it. It won't come up that much anyway. You nailed it. Which covers nearly all of sort of Northeastern Utah. Right.

Starting point is 00:18:21 But some believe that within that basin there's an epicenter from which all of these bizarre phenomena seem to manifest. So you've got skin walker ranch. It's situated at about 100 miles east of Salt Lake City. And as with any large property like it, traditionally it just sort of adopts the name of the current owner. As it sort of gets passed on, it would be like, one-a-key ranch, and then I'd buy it from you and be Perkins Ranch or whatever I want to call it or whatever the name changes. But over time, it sort of come to just be known as Skinwalker Ranch. So the native Ute people, the indigenous people,

Starting point is 00:18:56 believe that the ranch is sort of the focal point of a curse that was placed on them by the Navajo people. Wow. And tribe members were and still are forbidden from setting foot on this land as they believe it to be in the path of the skinwalker, which is like a type of harmful witch

Starting point is 00:19:13 who has the ability to turn into or possess or disguise themselves as an animal. Oh, that's a bit scary. They're like a bit of a shape-shifter. Yeah. And they can just be any animal. Yeah, kind of, yeah. They believe in themselves. It's pretty, yeah, if they want to be, I don't know. It's really, it's really interesting. The

Starting point is 00:19:32 kind of history of like skin walkers, it's not something that Native American people will talk about, especially to non-native people. Right, okay. And but they're like, yeah, skin walkers, they're the baddies. Yeah, absolute baddies. I're like, yeah, skin walkers are, they're the baddies. Yeah, absolute baddies. I've never heard of a skin walk before. Absolute baddies. In the bad way though. That's the bad way. Yes, so the bad way. That's the bad way. Hearing the name, you know, the incident I was like, I don't know what that is, but it doesn't sound nice. Exactly, I'm a skin walker. Yeah, yeah. It's like a skin crawl, that's what I think.

Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah, they're not fucking with them. them. So because of this native legend, the ranch became known to the locals as Skinwalk Ranch. It sort of didn't change names as it got passed. Yeah, right. So throughout the later half of the 20th century, Skinwalk Ranch was owned by a family, which long remained anonymous in this mysterious story, but we now know was Edith and Kenneth Myers,

Starting point is 00:20:23 who owns the property for about 60 years. It's for they set up Maya, the company in Australia. That's right, yeah, and we now know was Edith and Kenneth Myers, who owns the property for about 60 years. Before they started Maya, the company in Australia. That's right, yeah, and we thank them for it. Thank you for the for it. The department store. Oh God, it's good. It's got everything you need. Yeah, not a plug.

Starting point is 00:20:34 It's a one-stop shop. It is. You don't need to go shopping anywhere else. If you've got a Maya, you're fine. Love them. Lovely Christmas windows. Beautiful Christmas windows. You need a dress shirt and a tie and some board shorts.

Starting point is 00:20:46 Some glasses, maybe some glasses. Some glassware. You need some glassware. I'm probably describing that I'm wearing a glassware. A toast. I'm like, you're wearing some glassware. Some glassware, board shorts. And that's wearing it all.

Starting point is 00:20:56 Yeah, that's a check. He's a fancy guy. So for reasons unknown though, they suddenly and inexplicably vacated the property in 1987, leaving it empty and unattended for more than seven years. That was until 1994 when it was purchased by Terry and Gwen Sherman. Along with their two children, the couple believed that they'd bought their dream home. Of course you were.

Starting point is 00:21:19 And now I'm told a ranch. I mean, you've been a ranch? No, I was told them. You gotta do it half two times. Now I'm told them what? No one's told them what? What? it half too. No one's told them what? No one's told them what? What? The skin walkers around, he'd these here parts.

Starting point is 00:21:27 And they're like, I see that, that's not a skin walker ranch, what's that mean? The real estate agent's like, nothing. Skin walker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just Eric, skin and Terry Walker. He came together. Lovely people. Lovely people.

Starting point is 00:21:40 Still alive, definitely still alive. Still alive, still alive. Still alive. Very happy out there. They're just downsizing. They're just downsizing, they need a smaller ranch. Yeah, they did this. Still alive, still alive. Still alive, very happy out there. It was down sizing, this down sizing, then in a smaller wrench. Yeah, they did this. A safer wrench, not an insane wrench.

Starting point is 00:21:49 This wrench was, this wrench was so profitable for them. Oh, so nice. For their mega-rich. And so they've moved, they're the only up. They want a yon. They are now. Yeah, in a paddock underground. That could be you.

Starting point is 00:22:00 That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. So Terry planned to use the space on the wrench for cattle, but he couldn't have known the land he had just purchased That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. That could be you.

Starting point is 00:22:09 That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. That could be you. That could be you.

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Starting point is 00:22:25 The worst thing in the world. It is the worst thing in the world. Such a funny thing to say given the current climate of the world. It's the worst thing. God, I hate that. Oh, we do that. God, I hate that. My coffee's too hot.

Starting point is 00:22:37 Worst thing in the world. God, I hate that. God, God, I hate that. So anyway, they're moving in. And they found the main homestead to be very run down and need of some attention. But I mean, they anticipated that. It's been, it's an old property.

Starting point is 00:22:53 It's been left there empty for a few years. It's gonna need a liquor paint, a little TLC. Right, sure. That's 10 to 11 care. Okay, it's a car cable, but then that's too hard. It's actually bad at you doing well. You're really old.

Starting point is 00:23:05 But they was surprised to find a large number of dead bolts around the property, both on the outside, but also the inside. You only want a live bolts. Do you need to go to an ad break? I think I've got you out. Don't worry about it. Sammy, you're a guest here.

Starting point is 00:23:22 You just get to sit back and relax. You don't need to throw to ads. You just let me know. If you want me to throw to ads, I'll throw to ads. I'll let you know. But you're going to go out. You're a guest here. You just get to sit back and relax. You don't need to throw to ads. Oh, you just let me know. You just let me know. If you want me to throw to ads, I'll throw to ads. I'll let you know. But you're gonna go out on a high. I'll go out on a high. So just back to the dead bolts.

Starting point is 00:23:32 Were you more surprised about the ones on the inside? Yeah, yeah. Normally when I lock a door, it's from the inside so people can't get in when I'm home. Sure. The ones on the outside would be poop. That's why I'm the opposite. You like it from the outside?

Starting point is 00:23:43 That's an important part. I have someone to come and look at all of it. Inside windows and stuff, like big heavy box on the, yeah, good point about that's where locks would be. I tell my neighbor every night, you lock me in tonight. But I do have to get up early. It's a little bit of my own. It's if you could and if I don't answer my phone,

Starting point is 00:23:58 my emergency contact day will be here within the second. He's got keys. He's got keys. I don't have keys. He has keys. I don't trust myself with keys. I'm just one day keys. I'm He's got keys. He's got keys. He's got keys. I don't have keys. He has keys. I don't trust myself with keys. I just want to take keys. I don't need keys.

Starting point is 00:24:09 I don't need keys. I don't need to burden myself with that. Dave will have everything you need. Dave, I'm home. Dave, Dave, just go to home, where are you? Come lock me in please. Come lock me in tonight, thanks, Dave. Every night.

Starting point is 00:24:20 Every night. Dave doesn't have a life. Doesn't need one. Not with me. They found thick chains inside as well, used to chain up guard dogs. Oh, okay, that's all right, I'm freaking out now. Yeah, it just all felt a little bit weird,

Starting point is 00:24:32 but they just assumed it was the previous owner's been a bit cookie. There's a large harpoon on the wall. Yeah, like, okay. It's fine. So as we're in the process of moving in, moving in on all their boxes. Got a bean there. They spotted some worst thing in the world.

Starting point is 00:24:46 They spotted something in the distance. And as it got closer, they could see it was a wolf. Oh my gosh. But Terry Sherman was immediately concerned, and not just because it was a wolf, because based on its size, a beast, a wolf made a beast. And Terry's dead, very? Very close to the jig. Very cute upcloths. Not that far away.

Starting point is 00:25:08 Too far away. Too scary. Upcloths adorable. Jerry? Jerry's I've felt that's so fluffy. Based on its size compared to fence posts and bushes in the distance, he could tell it was at least three times the size of a regular wolf.

Starting point is 00:25:22 No, I can tell you it's just got no idea what perspective is. Yeah. Look, there's a mountain, like a three kilo of minutes behind it. It's the same size as the mountain. So, is it the size of a mountain? Hold on, my hand is huge. Oh no, wait. Put it in that normal size.

Starting point is 00:25:36 That's normal size. That's all I have to say. The wolf is the size of my hand. But you're saying he's comparing it to a bit. I don't think there's any risk of people getting spooked listening to this episode. I'm scared. I'm trying to protect everyone else. With humour.

Starting point is 00:25:51 With humour. And God, the worst thing in the world. Yes, from Fijima. People have heard about moving house. People are terrified right now. So I think that's three times the size of a regular wolf. That's very big for it. Because wolves are already big dogs.

Starting point is 00:26:03 They're big. Big dog. And so it came for it, because wolves are already big and big dogs. They're big. Big dog. And so it came, it got quite close to them, but it sort of slowed down and stopped about 50 feet away from the family and was looking at them with bright blue eyes. Look, I usually have bright blue eyes, do I? No, that's interesting. But also like, they're talking about that's like,

Starting point is 00:26:19 it almost seemed tame. Like it was kind of like wagon at its tail and looking like a sort of domesticated dog kind thing. Hey, what's that? I was saying, one of them was able to like give it a pat. Oh, and it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up.

Starting point is 00:26:31 And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it led up. And it absolutely be talking, Bollocks.

Starting point is 00:26:45 He'd be talking Bollocks. He'd be so scared. He'd be so scared. Ropla-wise, I know a couple of boys. Ropla-wise. Sit right here. Huh? Hi.

Starting point is 00:26:56 Sit right here. Yep. Sit right here. Couple of wolves. Couple of the wolf back. The other wolf back, aren't we? But suddenly. Can't wait. The wolf noticed one of the family's baby cows, a calf, if you will.

Starting point is 00:27:09 I will. And it quickly moved to where the calf was and took its head in its mouth. Oh. Just decided to attack a calf. Just playing or. So Terry, he's sort of like, get off. So he's heating the wolf with planks of wood. He called out for somebody to get his shotgun.

Starting point is 00:27:22 He got the gun. He shot the wolf right in the abdomen and it did nothing. Oh my god. It's a wolf. Didn't even react. It's a roamed body armor. Probably a full vest of armor. Yep. He fired again. Still nothing. Oh my god. It's not a wolf. It's a tank. Terry, come on. Terry, come on. It's a tank. You're being under a tank. A third shot had some kind of effect. The wolf released the calf and sort of backed up a little bit But still wasn't looking It's got to be shot a couple of times, I did that too

Starting point is 00:27:47 Three times now And a fourth shot straight to its heart And still the wolf looked pretty untraced Does it one of those things like in an action movie where you shoot someone and you think you expect them to stop But then they just slowly look at you like they're really annoyed It feels like it, yeah And then the person drops the gun and puts their hands up and goes, I'm sorry, I'm really sorry Yeah, yeah It has that kind of vibe I did 80 was an actor. I didn't want to die in the scene

Starting point is 00:28:08 Just keep walking yeah, just keep walking through the shot again. This is going off underneath your Ship Looking like your big shot repeatedly. You're just walking Into the camera feeling good. Look I'm powerful. I'm proud. I remembered the words squid Yeah, that was good. That was nice. And then you to the director. Can I get a copy of that footage? They go for my sizzle reel. I understand I'm fired but can I get a copy of it? I won't be doing it again. I don't understand. My leaving package. Can I get that? So they so eventually they've shot the wolf four times out. That's totally wild. It retreats. It sort of wanders off, probably runs off.

Starting point is 00:28:45 But worried about the safety of his family and his cattle, Terry and his son grabbed their guns and followed the wolf. They're like, that's fucking, we're gonna kill this wolf. You're just moving in, I bet Gwen's like, yeah, no worries, I'll unpack the fucking boxes. Yeah, I've got, I've been there. They're like, no, everything to get away. That's so funny, because I happened with me,

Starting point is 00:29:02 because I was moving the boxes, as the movers went around to kill all of the wolves. Oh my god. It was so, no, I'm packing all the boxes. I'm not paying you for killing me. You got to kill this wolf though. You got to kill this wolf though. It's like that classic, I'm seeing it a lot on TikTok lately of like, women talking about getting their house ready for a gathering, or they're like doing all the cooking or like cleaning up and their husband goes and mows the lawn or cleans the outdoor windows or something, and she's like, it's not, that doesn't help.

Starting point is 00:29:30 It's not the time. That's what Gwen feels like now. When I'm eating at the windows. Gwen's like, okay, so I'll just set up everyone's bed so we have somewhere to sleep. Well, I'm pretending I'm in the Reb and Impa. I've got a huge sword, and I'm following a wolf down the run. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:41 Oh. Anyway, so they follow the wolf's tracks for around half an hour, and they eventually find themselves in a wide mud bank, and they could see the wolf's prints in the mud, so they're following that along, but at a point in the middle of the wide stretch of mud, the poor prints abruptly stopped. Oh gosh. To avoid living more prints, the wolf would have had to have jumped like 40 or 50 feet. Yeah, that's probably possible.

Starting point is 00:30:05 That's what we're all thinking, isn't it? That's probably possible. It does seem like quite a long one. Yeah, quite a long way. So it seemed like the wall had disappeared into thin air. I don't think so. But, man. Okay, skeptic over here.

Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah, I'm a big old skepto. But I'm over here going, I believe. I believe. Oh, you believe? Right now. I want to believe. You want to believe. Right, well, I'd just flat out, don't I? Well, let's see if this next bit I want to believe. I want to believe. Right.

Starting point is 00:30:25 Well, I just flat out, don't I? Well, let's see if this next bit gets you, because some of this is spooky oogi. Oh God, I'm terrified now. So over the camera. Yeah, the Paddy Button's been pushed. Over the coming weeks, Terry's wife Gwen had some strange experiences in their new home. Small things that would make her feel like she was losing her mind. Things like unpacking the groceries and then leaving the room, only to return to the kitchen

Starting point is 00:30:46 and find all the groceries in bags on the counter. That happened repeatedly. So she unpacked them. Put them in the pantry in the fridge. Come on, I'll put them in the bag on the counter. Okay. Yeah, in the bags. Is someone playing a hilarious practical joke on her?

Starting point is 00:30:57 Because that would be very funny. It's quite a lot of work to unpack everything, but maybe. Yeah, maybe. What about this one though? Other times, she would lay out her towel and hairbrush before having a shower, only to find the missing when she got out of the shower. And she would find them eventually hours later, somewhere really random in the house.

Starting point is 00:31:12 She got slippery surfaces. They just slipped off her again. Because I grease up all of my surfaces every night as you know. Before a shower. That's why you keep hurting your back. Oh, it makes sense. Oh, God! I'm in here! I can slip it in the shower. The noises and face you just ran.

Starting point is 00:31:30 Oh, it was incredible. I wanted it on a t-shirt. I'll give it to you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Anyway, so yeah, how do you explain that? Where's the tailgorn? Is it hairbrush? Was it hairbrush?

Starting point is 00:31:42 I was so annoying to get out. No, yeah. You're looking around the house, sort of dripping wet and cold. And you pay. And you pay. Yeah, it's a mess. That's the most important bit. Top down, always top down.

Starting point is 00:31:51 Hair first. Then care second. Yep, hair and care. You know that. I'm always saying that. Things will go missing off on around the property and then turn up in strange places. Terry one time was fixing a fence

Starting point is 00:32:03 and a pretty large piece of equipment he was using suddenly vanished. Like he used it, went to do something turned around, it's gone, and he thought his kids had played a trick on him or something, but they were like, nope, everyone's been in the house. It appeared a few weeks later, hanging in a tree on the other side of the ranch,

Starting point is 00:32:20 like 20 meters off the ground. That's a good prank. That's a good prank. Yeah, I love hanging stuff up in different places. At other times, lights were seen off the ground. That's a good prank. That's a good prank. Yeah, I love hanging stuff up in different places. At other times, lights were seen on the property. Initially, Terry thought it was headlights, sort of assumed people had taken a wrong turn and would make their way back to the main road.

Starting point is 00:32:34 First step, grab the shotgun. That's right. Terry, shoot first askers and later. That's right. That's your right. Yeah, shoot from the hip every time. Shotgun from the hip. Oh, I place it on your hip and shoot. He looks psycho. He's never, he's the hip every time. Shotgun from the hip. Otherwise, place it on your hip and shoot.

Starting point is 00:32:46 He looks psycho. He's never, he's never, never here. I've never here. I've never here. That's what he's claimed to be. I've never, never here. Yeah, shot that at four times. I mean, I missed four times from the hip.

Starting point is 00:32:56 But I did shoot towards it. Roughly. But one time he saw the lights and he approached me. He thought it was people that were like hunting on his land. So he sort of went towards the car. But as he approached, the lights seemed to move away from him and he realized there was no engine sound. And the lights then suddenly moved up into the air, flying above the tree line.

Starting point is 00:33:17 Tesla. Tesla probably Tesla. You can't turn a Tesla. Why? I'm flying and flying. That's just one button, doesn't it? It's amazing. You pay extra. One button, doesn't it? It's amazing. You pay extra.

Starting point is 00:33:26 One button, doesn't it? How much extra? Ten bucks. Jeez, that's not what I did. You'd actually be silly not to. You'd actually be silly not to. That's what, that's how they get you. That's how they get you.

Starting point is 00:33:34 But the maintenance on that feature. Yeah. This is all the day. It's crazy how they get you. So he's seen these lights fly over the tree. And these lights become a frequent occurrence. They happen all the time. I'd walk out there and I would just say stop. I would just say enough is enough. I've had enough of it. I've had a gutful and I wish you good night

Starting point is 00:34:03 and I would go to bed and I would sleep. I would sleep all night on my all-out bed. Yep. I'd slip out during the night. Yeah. I'd go, Dave. I'd go back again. I'd slip that. I don't know how it's happened. I've slipped it. Of course, if you slide it, it's like pick up a man who's covered an oil and put him in

Starting point is 00:34:13 the back of your car. Very difficult. Did you have to lay out a top or something? Yeah, yeah. I've got to wear like oven mitts. To deal with it. He's also very hot. How did I ask?

Starting point is 00:34:23 Sorry, personal question, but how does your wife feel about your commitments to Sam Peterson? Very supportive. Very supportive. Very supportive. No, he's talking about me. I'm very supportive. Sam helps me get to the point. I just call her. Why are you talking to her Oh God, he's crying again. Is that a scourer running down? I'm just oil running off his face. I'm tired to say. I'm tired to say. On one occasion, the Sherman saw a strange hyena-like creature attacking one of their horses. And they just... I was just trying to sleep. I don't know, something like that. Wow, good for Carrot Top.

Starting point is 00:35:25 You look good. So I'm fowling Carrot Top. I've got to be attractive to both of them. And really topical references. Very timely. God, I'll have to be topical. I've been going to Pulse over here. Don't know whose Pulse.

Starting point is 00:35:36 Sammy P and the Zart Guys are like this. I'll be getting it. I'll be getting it. As Mr. Sherman approached the animal, it vanished before his eyes. Afterwards they checked the horse and found numerous claw marks on its legs. But a few months later a neighbour reported seeing a similar beast running across their property.

Starting point is 00:35:58 Come winter the ranch was hit with a particularly cold snap and a lot of snow and Terry found himself out rather late one night on horseback, looking for one of his prize angus cows that had wandered away from the herd. He eventually spotted hoof prints relieved he wasn't too far from finding his cow. He followed the tracks into a clearing in a densely wooded area, but once again found that the prints stopped suddenly, much like the prints of the wolf. I can't't jump 50 feet. They can. I don't think they can jump at all. Yeah, I don't know actually, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:36:29 They can't walk downstairs. We know that for sure. Because I've got one in my apartment and I can't get it out. That's why I did look. You're gonna have to crane it out. I'm gonna have to crane it out. And that's okay.

Starting point is 00:36:40 That's okay. I think it's fine. Take a wall out. I'm sure that's fine. Get the cow out, get the cow down. The removal is still, yeah, the removal is still parked in my driveway, hunting them wolves down. Yeah, yeah. They can probably take it. So they're blocking the whole driveway. They're blocking the whole driveway. The nag is not so furious.

Starting point is 00:36:54 They are so mad at me. They hate me. The cow won't shut up. It's just a mess over there. God, your life's a wreck at the moment, isn't it? It's not going well. It's not going well. But it's love it just had some time out and be here. I don't know why you had to bring the cow. That's the only thing. So over the course of that winter, four more of his cows would disappear in a similar fashion. No.

Starting point is 00:37:14 Just disappear. And if they're near where's that cow? Where's that cow? He'd often stay up late at night hiding on his own property to try and see if he could catch whoever or whatever was attacking his cattle. This is the start of him losing his mind, isn't it? Potentially. No. One night to his shock, he saw a black mass hovering over the ground about 100 yards away from where he was. He thought it looked a little bit like a like an F-117-nighthawk, a stealth plane.

Starting point is 00:37:44 Or a bunch of bees. or a bunch of bees. But a bunch of bees. We don't know. They can shape shift. It could have been some bees. It could have been a whole bunch of bees. Or it could have been an F17. F17.

Starting point is 00:37:55 F17. Just a big, I know. He also knows it's been coming. Like when he's like, it looked like a snub nose, F17. I'm like, sure. I would know how to describe that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I would know how to describe that.

Starting point is 00:38:05 You had me at F117. You just stumbled. We know it's got a thumbnail. But it was floating about 20 feet, but it doesn't. He's saying it looks like that, but if it had a snub, put the drip snooze on it. Put the drip snooze on it. Now we're talking.

Starting point is 00:38:19 It was floating about 20 feet above the ground and was completely quiet. So he's like, I know it's a stealth plane, but I'm just not gonna hear something. Good to hear. And then colored lights shone down onto the snow below and Terry watched the aircraft for about 15 minutes. Until at one stage, it seemed to like turn towards him, almost like it was looking at him

Starting point is 00:38:40 and then it turned the lights off and it slowed it off. Have you ever felt like a plane was looking at you? Yes, every night. Every night. I've been in, I've been in quite a few airports and never thought that plane was looking at me. It's looking at me. That plane is staring me down.

Starting point is 00:38:55 You look away. You look away. Get out of the plane. Get out of it. Oh yeah, what are you taking a photo? Last one, you're respect my privacy plane. This man is losing his mind. Oh, yeah, what are you taking photos last long? We're speaking my privacy plan This man is losing his money

Starting point is 00:39:11 Just go to airport every night Come here inside you got some of the same come here inside Great point maybe that's how planes feel about people who go out and watch planes. Yeah, right. Oh, I'm trying to learn you absolute Creep And people always trying to like get underneath them as planes go over as well Look at my never-region I'm getting a plane you absolute perfect and you feel ashamed of yourselves. That's so gross So he's saying I hate that. He's saying ashamed of yourselves. That's so gross. Anyway, so he's seen a hit that. He's seen a UFO essentially. Essentially.

Starting point is 00:39:47 Half a 15 minutes, did he get a photo? No, of course not. Okay. And spring is fun. I used it as well, so I'm so sorry to interrupt you, but how funny is it that the worst photographers in the world are always the ones that take photos of like, unadentifying people?

Starting point is 00:39:59 Yeah, it's always like big footage, like the blurious photo wherever it's like, oh, there must be one person one day. Yeah, and ever. It's like like an 800. It's like the blurious photo wherever it's like, oh, there must be one person one. And they're like, like an 800 pixel camera. I know. Yeah, they're always awful photos. There was a recent big foot sighting and it was absolute dog shit.

Starting point is 00:40:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's exactly what people say online, they're like, yeah, almost like. I think we're banged. How did you, how do you have such a bad camera still? How did you miss it? How did you miss it? My mum's taking a photo of Bigfoot all the time.

Starting point is 00:40:26 This is zoomed in. That's crazy. I miss it still zooms in. I just try and do that. I'm like, yeah, he's a photo of Bigfoot and they've just accidentally taken selfie. Yeah, I got him. I got him.

Starting point is 00:40:35 I got him. That's me looking at him. Just a photo of you crying. I'm going to take this photo real quick. As Spring sprung, more cattle disappeared, but now they reappear somewhere on the property dead. Oh, I'm scared.

Starting point is 00:40:47 I'm scared. Okay, I'm officially scared now. Sometimes the cause of death wasn't apparent. There was like no wounds on it. It looked like it was just had dropped dead. Other times the animals were mutilated. The family continued to experience strange things. The unexplainable lights appeared more and more frequently.

Starting point is 00:41:06 Poulter Goss was seen inside the house and black featureless entities began to appear. Windows and at the ends of beds. Oh, that's scary. Plain's at the end of the year bed. You don't wanna play in the end of the year bed. I told you to get, yeah. Stop looking at me.

Starting point is 00:41:22 At what point would either of you be out of this place or this goddamn ranch? As soon as I'm seeing things inside the house. Yeah, I looking at me. At what point would either of you be out of this place or this goddamn ranch? As soon as I'm seeing things inside the house. Yeah, I'd be out. Like a little creature talking to us the same year. I'm not mutilated cow. Especially on like an isolated ranch. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:41:35 In neighbors or what? 30, 45 minute drive away. Like it's maybe more. No, no, no, no, I don't want to be there. You don't want to be there. I wouldn't be out on a ranch anyway. That's not your vibe. I wouldn't have even be there. You don't want to be there. I wouldn't be out on a ranch anyway. That's not your vibe. I wouldn't have even started here.

Starting point is 00:41:48 You know, at what point would you be out? I never was there. I was never in. I was never in. Next question. I'll just play my game for 10 minutes. No, never there. I don't know who you are.

Starting point is 00:41:57 Stop asking me questions. Leave me alone. Strange sounds would be heard as if they were coming from beneath the house, almost as if there was machinery operating underground. Neighbors could hear this as well. Voices were heard. They described it at times of feeling like a voice was coming from the sky. God. Really strange. Random holes were found on the land. Random holes. But no dirt piles. Oh wow. Where's that dirt come from? What do we know to believe in? And like huge because we've been sucked wow. Where's that dirt come from? What do we want to believe? And like huge big holes. Where's the dirt? Hey, answer me. Riddle me this. Where's the dirt?

Starting point is 00:42:28 And strange creatures was spotted in various spots on the property from big-foot type humanoids to canine hyena hybrids. There was also an invisible bean that was witnessed. Now how do you witness something invisible? Well, there was a bean or a bean. Being. Okay. Do you think that's a bean? I thought you might have said invisible bean Which is cool and it was a bean. I don't we know how do we know it's an invisible bean. It could be a bean It could be a bean magical bean and I reckon Americans can't hear the difference in what we're saying mean Bane or being mr. Bean

Starting point is 00:43:00 You know that comedy character mr. Bean So they would you would see cattle would part as if something large was like running towards it. Just all of a sudden they'd all part. And then also that I was sort of like okay, but then it also said water would splash as if large feet was stomping through it. That would be fucking spooky. Yeah, that would be spooky. That'd be well and truly out by the time. I'd be like, I'd be like, Will you be on a ranch in the first place. I'd be like a cartoon character,

Starting point is 00:43:27 like you'd hear a boing, and then you see me in the distance. I'm gone. Yeah, away gone. We see like your outline, the minute so disappears in just moments. That's right. Oh my god. She's gone. There's a gest-shaped hole in the wall. I've gone. A bright orange light would appear sometimes on the horizon and when Terry viewed it through a telescope it looked like some kind of portal with an opening in the center. It would be the middle of the night, it's bright orange light but then he could see like a blue sky in the middle of it. Like it was a portal to another place. I wouldn't like that. I don't like that. Small red orbs would often appear on the property, visible in the tree lines, and they seemed largely harmless

Starting point is 00:44:10 other than they sometimes antagonize the cattle a little bit. But sometimes larger, larger blue orbs would appear and you wouldn't want to see the blue orbs. Oh, okay. Because they're hotter than the red ones, famously. In fire. Oh, right, yeah. Would you take the blue orbs with the red orbs? Blue orbs. Blue, okay. Cause they're hotter than the red ones, famously. In fire. Oh, right, yeah. Would you take the blue warb of the red or blue everyday? Blue is my favourite colour. Blue goes to my eyes.

Starting point is 00:44:30 No, I don't think that's- Yeah, and I'm not under your red. Don't your red, red is not for you. Nicknamed the Blue Menis. Actually? Yeah. Yeah. That's less scary.

Starting point is 00:44:42 The Blue Menis. That's really taking the fear factor out for me Imagine if that was a gang the blue meanies are Where I'm blue meanies territory. Oh, I'm so scared But these are also somehow able to instill intense fear in people who got too close to them the blue meanies They can you would look at them. You'd get too close that you'd be filled with an intense fear. Oh God, I'm scared. Now I'm scared, I'm scared.

Starting point is 00:45:08 All of the strange and scary things that Terry and Gwen saw on the property, the blue meanies were the thing they feared the most. Because it's like the weird emotional response maybe. Yeah. So after two years of losing sleep and fearing for their safety in their home, they're losing 14 head of cattle and their family pets due to weird phenomena

Starting point is 00:45:29 Oh, not the pet that's that yeah, and on the brink of bankruptcy the family had enough their story had caught some attention from the media and was seen by Robert Bigelow now Robert Bigelow an American businessman He owns budget sweets of America and is the founder of Bigelow Aerospace. Oh, not choose Bigelow, an American businessman, he owns budget suites of America and is the founder of Bigelow Aerospace. Oh, not juice Bigelow American juice. Not juice Bigelow, that's different. It's his brother. So a year before this in 1995, Bigelow founded the National

Starting point is 00:45:55 Institute for Discovery Science or NIDS, as I'll call it throughout this, to fund the research and study of various fringe sciences and paranormal topics, most notably ufology. So he offered to buy the ranch from the sherman's, reportedly for $200,000 and they happily accepted and got the fuck out of it. Right, but he wants it because it's spooky. Yeah, that's right.

Starting point is 00:46:19 I thought he just handed it over to $10. There you go. It's all offered. And I said, thank you. Honestly, he could have lobed all the money. Yeah, absolutely. He could have loa-bought them. Yeah, absolutely. Good luck with the Blue Maynes.

Starting point is 00:46:27 I mean, you could take this money or you could stick around here and hang out with the Blue Maynes. I think I can hear the Blue Maynes coming down. Does you want me to say if they want to take the $10? Slow down. Blue Maynes, Anteys, Blue Maynes. They're leaving. He controls the blue meanies.

Starting point is 00:46:47 So Nidz has moved into the ranch. This is 1996. And you might think it's a bunch of cooks out to catch ghosts. I never thought that. I never think of cooks. But these were PhD professors with specialties in biochemistry, psychology, astrophysics, and veterinary science. Bigelow was apparently careful to hire candidates who were skeptical, people who would look for rational explanations for phenomena rather than get immediately swept up in conspiracies.

Starting point is 00:47:16 So one of the members of the scientific team was biochemist Colm Kelleher, who, along with investigative journalist George Napp, wrote a book called Hunt for the Skin Walker about the ranch and the findings that happened there during Nidz's research. But he wrote it in blood on the walls. That's right. It's my book, it's my masterpiece. Otherwise British, but...

Starting point is 00:47:36 Write it down, it's there, write it down. Take your time with it, write it down, we'll start again. It's a new comedy character. It's insane new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character.

Starting point is 00:47:50 It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character.

Starting point is 00:47:58 It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy character. It's a new comedy No, that was, that's probably Colin Keller, her George Napp. He had an interesting career, Napp with a K, K-Napp, and a double P.

Starting point is 00:48:11 He broke the story on Bob Lazare in 1989, who claimed to have worked on UFOs at Area 51. And so, so George Napp's like a, like, he's a well-known journalist, but like writes a lot about these sorts of conspiracy theories, UFOs, etc. Scary stuff. Spooky stuff. Anyway, so Nidz of Purchaser Ranch, and Terry Sherman apparently offered to stay on as a ranch manager, because he didn't really necessarily believe in the extraterrestrial side of things. He suspected that the phenomena happening around his ranch was more to do with secret military operations. So he was interested in sticking around

Starting point is 00:48:50 and seeing what needs were able to find out. And they're all bunch of scientists and he actually knows ranch stuff. So he's like, yeah, sure, you can stick around. That'll be helpful. Who's sticking around? Terry. Terry.

Starting point is 00:49:01 Previous owner. I thought you were desperate to get out. Terry. He's family definitely were. Yeah. I mean, he's not having a great time, but at least now he can leave. Flat-Natin, yeah. He's just coming through the day, probably as well. And he wants closure, he wants answers. He wants to know what the F is going on. Yeah, his blue meanies are up my ass, they keep talking at me, G. They keep talking to the same, the meaner staff. Yeah. So his legs are over at that point. And also, I want to say as well,

Starting point is 00:49:25 I couldn't find heaps of resources about these sorts of early years, or like, because there's a few different, like documentaries and TV shows about this, the ranch now. So a lot of this early stuff has all come from one particular podcast and like YouTuber bedtime stories, but they're not bedtime stories.

Starting point is 00:49:45 They're all spooky. Oh God, I only watched them before I met them. That's confusing. So I meant to shout that out before that a lot of this has come from there because it was really hard to find info. We've done such a good job. Thank you so much.

Starting point is 00:49:58 Thank you so much. It's what I was fishing for. Yeah, done such a good job. But in saying that, I'm saying somebody else did the work. But you're still doing such a good job. But in saying that, I'm saying somebody else did the work. But you're still doing such a good job reading out the word. Thank you so much. So the first thing the group of scientists did when they set up the ranch was to run a variety of tests, because the phenomenon described was bizarre and also really varied.

Starting point is 00:50:18 And they suspected that there was likely environmental and psychological factors to consider. So my go to's with anything like this, number one poisoning, is there something in the water or the soil or a plant? Something that's like causing some kind of hallucinations. Yes, good one. That's what I think. Or is it one of those sort of mass hysteria type situations?

Starting point is 00:50:41 Yes. Which also, I never fully understand how they happen, but it's a big psychological thing. Yeah. Those are the things that I always think. Any other theories? My go-to is always definitely aliens. Yes. Always. Always aliens. Okay. Yeah. A B's is my thing. B's is my go-to. There's probably B's there be there. And if there are bees there, what have the bees done there? What are the bees doing there? And why are they still here? They need to go.

Starting point is 00:51:12 What have they seen? What have they seen and where are they going? Yes. That's what I think. I always go there in my head. Yeah. I think we've turned it into my story. We've turned the three of us.

Starting point is 00:51:22 We've really got a few bases covered here. I think so. Just paranoid about bees. We're turning the three of us up. I think we've really got a few bases covered here. I think so. Just paranoid about bees. The big ones. The big ones. The scientists considered these possibilities. Well, my, the two I mentioned, I don't think they. They didn't go into the bees.

Starting point is 00:51:34 I think that's a question. Aliens is going to come up for sure. But less so about the bees. And maybe that's where they've gone. They don't want to talk about the bees. Well, the bees have bloody control on them. Exactly. They're big, they're not. No, I want to talk about the things. Well, the bees are bloody controlling them. Exactly. They're big bees.

Starting point is 00:51:47 They're not, they're not. Big bee. Big bee. Good luck, mate. Pull the other one. Don't even know what that means. Pull the other one. Well, you also wondered if there was areas of intense electromagnetic fields or ultra-low

Starting point is 00:52:00 frequencies like infrasound, fault lines that cause tectonic or seismic stress can also be thought to cause light anomalies and visual hallucinations is that what it was. They went a whole bunch of tests, tests found very little. Okay. Aside from a few strange lights in the sky, the remainder of 1996 was pretty uneventful, and the needs investigators were left feeling pretty doubtful

Starting point is 00:52:25 about some of the other stories reported by the Sherman family. They're like, this is kind of bullshit. Yeah, I'm seeing some spooky lights, sure. But that's it. I've seen a plane at the end of my bed, Tess, but that's about it. Yeah, I mean, come on, but that's just Tuesday. Yeah, okay?

Starting point is 00:52:39 Tuesdays of plane watches me sleep. I don't know what to tell you. That's fine. Don't know why you go on. Come on, Tess, he's actually quite nice. It's life on tell you. That's fine. Don't know why you're going on. Come on, Tess. He's actually quite nice. I feel confident.

Starting point is 00:52:49 I do. He stops talking when the lights go off at fine. It's fine. Sometimes when I can't sleep, he rocks the bed a little bit like I'm a little baby. I got a little baby. And I actually find that quite soothing. Actually quite nice. No way I've caught on Blue Man.

Starting point is 00:53:02 He's often found them to be quite delightful. I found when I just opened up and was honest with him, we were able to have a beautiful discourse. I call them the blue friendly, Sam. I call them by their names. Jeff and Tom. How about that? How about that? Have you ever thought about that?

Starting point is 00:53:19 No. No. No. You only ever think about yourself. You only ever think blue meanings. You never think blue, Jeff. I've got feelings. So not much is happening in the end of 96. And they're like, yeah, but all that would change in the coming year. Oh wow.

Starting point is 00:53:34 In March of 97, Terry and his wife Gwen were out in the pasture tagging some of the cattle. She did not like to go back to the ranch, but he had cattle there still and scientists had cattle there kind of and scientists had cattle there, kind of his baits in a lot of ways, which is pretty fucked. Right. And they're like painting targets on them and they're out tagging them. The targets. Tag it.

Starting point is 00:53:54 So, yeah, you're right. And they tagged one calf and then walked over the other side of the field to tag the rest of them. And while they continued to tag cattle, one of the dogs they had with them started to grow out, and they looked over to where the dog was looking and saw the mother cow of the first calf sort of stumbling around, clearly in distress. Drunk. And a little content warning here for anyone sensitive to animals.

Starting point is 00:54:15 So they ran over and they found the calf dead. Its entire abdominal cavity missing. Organ's gone. All that was left was its head, legs and spine. Oh, parts of its ribs. Weirdly, there was no blood on the ground, and the ear they'd just tagged had also been removed. But it looked like it had been cut with a sharp object, like it had been done in a very precise way. No blood around. So really weird. Dex der vibes. Yeah, something.

Starting point is 00:54:46 Oh, it could be dexter. We don't know. How could something remove 60 pounds of animal in broad daylight, in full view of where Terry and Gwen were and no one saw anything? Like WTF. Yeah, that's what the flip. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:55:00 That's not another organisation. No, no, no, no. It's completely... That's looking into the podcast with Mike Marin. That's right. That's a plug. So that, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, So and the stumbling mother was that just concerned or see you do two? I think so yeah a few days later at 11 p.m. One night the dog started howling at something on the far side of the pasture And Terry and some of the nid's team got in a forebilt drive and headed out in the pasture to see if they could spot anything They had a big spotlight on top of the car and as the light moved over a tree line They saw two big yellow lights and then they realized they were eyes, reflecting back at them.

Starting point is 00:55:46 Big yellow eyes. Big yellow eyes. That's scary. They stopped the car. Terry reached for his rifle. He kind of used the car door to steady the rifle. Shoot from the hip. So he could take it.

Starting point is 00:55:55 He could hit on the windows. What do you see on the windows, sir? The windows still have a car. Winner still. He moves in mysterious ways, Terry. He shot himself in the jaw. He shot himself in the jaw. He shot himself in the jaw. And so through the scope on the gun, he could see a large creature sitting at the top of one of the trees.

Starting point is 00:56:13 He took a shot and a thud was heard as the creature fell to the ground. They all heard a thud. They were like, you got him. So they drive over. I mean, they're not that far away. They drive over, no sign of the animal or anything nearby. They spread out to search, it's in the middle of the night. Don't spread out.

Starting point is 00:56:29 Never spread out. And Terry was heard yelling, I see him before two more shots rang out. Terry described the creature as a huge dog, but on two legs. Standy up, be dog. Standy up, be dog, thank you. Yeah, that's what they call it.

Starting point is 00:56:43 I saw they're written down, I didn't know how to spin out. Yeah, standy up, be dog. Standy up, be dog. Standy up, be dog. Thank-y-upie dog, thank you. Yeah, that's what they call. I saw they written down, I didn't know how to spin out. Yeah, that's stand-y-upie. Stand-y-upie dog. Stand-y-upie. They searched in the darkness for hours, but all they found were two large footprints, about 14 inches long, with large claw marks. Yeah, that would have been the stand-y-upie dog for sure.

Starting point is 00:56:57 Yeah. Huge. Never found anything. On April 2nd, Terry and Gwen noticed their four prized Angus bulls had disappeared from the enclosure that they had just seen them in less than an hour before. These are like really, like their prized, they're worth a lot of money. That's a few grants in right there. Everyone knows bulls.

Starting point is 00:57:17 They can't travel any distance in an hour. But they're like locked up in the enclosure. They're like five centimeters an hour. So unless they've moved less than five centimeters Something is fucked with his balls. Yeah, that's true. I'm looking at the face. I believe that's true I believe that's true. I can look that out especially when they're locked up It is hard for them to move long distances. That's true So they drove past to do something they came back bulls are gone

Starting point is 00:57:38 so they they get out of the car they they're running over and Terry's looking around and he found all four bulls crammed into an old trailer that was stored next to the carol the bulls were in. They're not going to be there. He said they seemed to be in some kind of a trance. They were able to get the bulls out of the trailer and back into their enclosure but the scientists couldn't figure out what had happened. One single bull wouldn't be happy about being confined to a small space, let alone all four of them squeezing in together, and they were all kind of, yeah, in a bit of a trance.

Starting point is 00:58:10 And more importantly, the only entrance to the trailer from the Corral was a door that was wired shut. So how the fuck did they get in there? Oh, that's interesting. How many scientists of the blade take to find a few bulls? First, it's the start of a jerk. Don't have the ending yet. There's something there.

Starting point is 00:58:27 There's something there. You can easily work on that. It's already funny. It's already fun. It's got a good premise. Totally. So let's come back later. I'll chop it up.

Starting point is 00:58:35 Chop it up. Come back. I'll work on that later. I'll send it to you later. Oh yeah, that'd be great. Chop it in. Thank you. I just have like a completely different sounding audio file.

Starting point is 00:58:45 Really bad. I'm kind of under water. I'm going to do this. Did it in the pool. I did it in the pool. I thought about in the pool. I thought about in the pool. I'll send that on.

Starting point is 00:58:53 You know this. I do my best thinking in the pool. Anyway, people feel pretty spooked now. Yeah, I'm terrified of that. Many other weird and unexplainable occurrences happened to the investigators working at the ranch. Researchers reported a sudden, strong, musk smell. Elon, he's around.

Starting point is 00:59:14 What's his hell like? He's set a, he smells like a musk stick. Yeah, okay. Which he invented, if you didn't know about it. I do. How he made all his money through musk sticks. I don't know why you don't let me do a report. I don't, I don't want to. our money through musk sticks? I don't know why you don't let me do a report.

Starting point is 00:59:25 I don't want to do a report in musk. He invented musk sticks. It's just a one sentence report, but it's done. It's very interesting. Very good. Yeah, yeah. We're still talking about it now. I love you.

Starting point is 00:59:37 So they've smelled a smell and gone. This is suspicious. Well, it's saddened. A smell saddened. You're out in the field. Yeah. Doing some work and all of a sudden you Have a look at it. Let me finish let me finish. Hey you got a sudden strong mask smell a company It by feeling that something is watching you

Starting point is 00:59:55 Okay, okay, like like Hair on the back here next standing up. You got you got full body chills You get you got the chili willies you feel bit like, what the fuck is going on here? And the strong musk smell and you're not spooked. You're not spooked. You're kidding yourself, man. Yeah, you just have to have the chili willy in my right? Is this thing on?

Starting point is 01:00:15 Turn his off, turn his off, turn his off. I'd be happy to smell the musk off, because I found musk assoothing smell. Oh, okay. You have a bath, you put lots of musk sticks in it as seen you have a bath. That's why he's partner won't let me here. Yeah, you put a lot of musk sticks in it, I've seen you have a bath. Okay, that's why he's partner won't let me here. Yeah, because you put too many musk sticks in the bath.

Starting point is 01:00:29 I'm always sitting with him in the bath, going, why are you talking to him, we don't need it. He's got to go. She has G2G, that's got to go. She's got to go. She has G2G brother. So are we trying to break up marriage? It should just be us.

Starting point is 01:00:44 Well, we always want to. I'm like, why do you change? Anyway, strong musk smell, something's watching them. That is scary. And that's with the scientists, because I started to notice a small pattern and that it was, it was always Terry. I agree. They had the stuff happening to him.

Starting point is 01:01:01 Yeah, I'm seeing it over here. Yeah, it's what. They weren't here. Look, they weren't here in it. And here we go. It's like, well, where was everyone else to it? Yeah, no. But stuff does happen to the science too. So they're smelling the smells, they're feeling the weed feeling. This one creeps me out a bit.

Starting point is 01:01:14 There's a couple here that are a bit spooky. One of the needs that researchers experienced a strange phenomenon one night while looking out over the field with night vision goggles. He saw something huge and black just behind the tree line and felt as though that thing was taking control of his mind. Oh my god. He said to his colleague next to him, it's got me. It says they're watching us. Oh my god, that's scary. That's scary. The unidentified object moved away and the ordeal was over but it certainly seemed to shake that research for quite some time. This is the one that really got me. In the middle of the night, another time, two scientists were up on a ridge looking down

Starting point is 01:01:50 towards the homestead when one saw a bright light again through his night vision goggles. The other one didn't have night vision goggles. He just, he could see the light but it just sort of looked like, like a light. But to the go of the night vision goggles, it was getting bigger. It seemed really, really bright. And it looked actually more like it wasn't a light, but in fact a tunnel, and he could see through to the other side. A portal again.

Starting point is 01:02:15 A portal, if you were. Oh my gosh. If you were. He watched as a figure crawled out of the tunnel and then ran across the field. Like so much faster than a human could, like it was so fast. Yeah, and see me around. That's true. So much faster than a regular person, unlike Sammy, who's incredibly quick. Yeah, thank you so much. And it sort of ran up the ridge and they both heard footsteps, kind of near them, sort of what ran past them and they both smelled a strong musk smell. Elon's back.

Starting point is 01:02:45 So the one who's not seeing through the portal is still hearing footsteps, run past them and smelling musk. And smelling his mate who's just shared himself. Yeah, musk is what they're. Absolutely, it's shit. It's shit. You smell them that and the other guy's like, no, are you? Absolutely not.

Starting point is 01:03:03 Have a smelter dancer. Definitely. got him. Got him a beauty. Oh, poor boy, what's that? Someone wants to drop their guts over there. No, not me, definitely not. I would never do that, can't even fart. That one's spooked me a little bit.

Starting point is 01:03:20 If you see someone like coming out of a tunnel and then running, that's, I don't like that. And then you can like hear it near you, you're like, yeah, can I like that at all? No, I don't me a little bit. If you see someone like coming out of a tunnel and then running, that's, I don't like that. And then you can like hear it near you, we all yuck and I like that at all. No, I don't like that one bit. That's not a fun thing to experience. And it would ruin musk sticks for life. Oh, absolutely.

Starting point is 01:03:33 And they were in a delightful trait. I love them. You can be having a bath bomb with them again. No, thanks. You can move onto something else. You don't have to choose a new favorite. Pipe spray. Probably.

Starting point is 01:03:41 Quite nice. Oh, I don't like it. Can I have my preparation? No. Leavener? No. Vanilla. Oh, I don't like it. You don't like it? No. Leavena? No. Vanilla. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:49 I got you in the end. If you just said Ilang Ilang, that's my favorite. What is that? It's spelt like Y-L-A-N-G, and I only've learnt recently. I've always been like, Ilang, but I think it's like Ilang. Anyway, you're right. You can't tell just how it's like Yelang. Anyway. Are you right? That's how Jaisal was the boy. Yelang.

Starting point is 01:04:07 Yelang. Yelang. Yelang. No. No. By mid 1998, the odd activity on the property started to decline and it did so for many years after. So the team finally pulled the plug and left the property

Starting point is 01:04:20 in 2004. They were there for a long time though. And they're all paid for by this, like, eccentric millionaire. Yeah. The whole property drain down the plug. Because they pulled it. Is there something in there? No.

Starting point is 01:04:31 OK. So after needs. Siri, don't write that down. Siri, don't write that joke. So after needs disbanded in 2004, they maintained ownership of the property until 2016. The new owner was an anonymous buyer. And it wasn't until four years later in 2020

Starting point is 01:04:47 that it was revealed that the ranch had been bought by a Utah real estate mogul named Brandon Fugel. When he announced he was the owner, he also announced that the History Channel would be recording a reality TV show on the property titled The Secret. Keeping up with the Kardashians. And you can look that up, that's online. If they did a spooky season, that would be so if I'd watched them, their whole family going to a spooky list. That's so fun. That is a fun way to mix it up. I'm not being like, freaking out.

Starting point is 01:05:13 Courtney! Courtney! Oh my God! Look at these eyes! They're still doing the talking heads. They're going to really bright colors. They're going to be blind all of a sudden. They're always watching.

Starting point is 01:05:23 When I saw those eyes, I could not believe it. Yeah, I mean yeah. Unfortunately, the show was called the secret of skin walker ranch. The show has four seasons now. Wow, incredible. I think it's probably part of the reason a few people suggested this topic. And this is from Brian Higgins on Utah.com. I really like Brian. My favorite websites. Brian's writing is quite funny. The show portrays

Starting point is 01:05:49 Vuegles' attempts to bring scientific approaches to the mystery surrounding the ranch, surrounded by a team of experts in a range of scientific disciplines, as well as a guy named Dragon. Vuegles seeks answers to the questions that he and countless others have asked over the years. If it sounds a lot like Nidz, that's because it is. Reality TV just wasn't as popular in 1996. So it's essentially like people coming in doing very similar stuff, but it's on the cameras this time. He goes on to say like, so many investigators before them, the current occupants of Skinwalker Ranch have found more questions than answers.

Starting point is 01:06:22 Why does electronic equipment seem to malfunction on the ranch? Why have so many occupants reported unexplained illnesses? Why does the indescribable feeling of strangeness they feel on the ranch seem to follow them home? Why is there a grown man named Dragon? Did he give himself that nickname? Does he make his friends call him Dragon all the time? The search for ads is continues. I love that. I love Bryant. Yeah, Bryant's great. Bryant's a bit obsessed with dragon, and I love it.

Starting point is 01:06:49 I love it. And I have seen, I'm sorry if you're a big fan of the show, I was not able to find or access much of it. I could get to like, I think I could see bits of like the most recent season or maybe season two or three or something. I wasn't able to watch it from the start. Dragon I believe is like on the security team. Good. But even the bits that I saw, it was just had a lot of like tense music under nothing happening. And I was like, I can't. Yeah, that's too much.

Starting point is 01:07:16 Not that it was spooky. I was just like, you are trying too hard to make it. Make it spooky. Yeah. Yeah. But people love the show. Yeah, of course., yeah, but people people love the show. Yeah, of course. So look theories

Starting point is 01:07:28 There's a few of them What are you looking up Dave? I'm sorry. I'm just looking up the cigarette skin walker ranch and they've Beloncing a new seat show called Beyond Skin Walker Ranch. Oh my god. Where experts join Eric Travis dragon and Brandon to investigate other mysterious Ranches across the world. Wow. See if the Strange Phenomenon was really confused. So obviously the show is doing well. Yeah, that's funny.

Starting point is 01:07:50 I absolutely love it. I love it. I love it, Dragon. I'm so, yeah. Absolutely. It's a little bit funny. There's a guy on it named Travis who has has that classic really southern accent. And he's got PhDs in astrophysics and biochemistry and all sorts of stuff.

Starting point is 01:08:12 But it reminds me of, do you remember Joe Schaeffer, a comedian? Yeah. And he used to do a bit because he has a bit of a southern drawl. And he used to do a bit about how he has the kind of accent where like you don't hear lawyers with that sort of accent. It's more like you're out of I'll be representing myself. And it was just very for so long to be thinking that it's funny hearing this guy talking in this like really classic Southern accent but about really stuff that I cannot even comprehend. It was just funny. I'm a lawyer.

Starting point is 01:08:44 That's all stuff. That's a lawyer. That's all stuff. That's all stuff. That's all stuff. So anyway, some skeptics are quick to point fingers at the Sherman family, accusing them of making stuff up as a way to get rid of their property in a quick sale because they were close to bankruptcy. But neighbours reported similar odd phenomena on their properties and needs investigators experienced a lot of the same things as the Sherman's reports. Plus, as we mentioned of the same things as the Sherman's reports.

Starting point is 01:09:05 Plus, as we mentioned at the very start, the general area had hundreds of years of history of unusual phenomena. So it's unlikely that, I mean, how could they be making up something that has been reported for hundreds of years? Yes. Is that much of a real estate ploy to sell a ranch because it's terrifying? I don't want to live here. Do you want to live here? Do you want to live here? Come live in this horrifying place.

Starting point is 01:09:28 Yeah. Or they were saying that they were making it up for potential money to sell this story kind of thing. Oh, okay, right, yeah. But yeah, it's like there's a history of it. Other people that live in the area have had very similar things happening on their property. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:43 Unlikely. And Dragon would see right through it. And Dragon would see right through it. similar things happening on their property. Yeah. Unlikely. And dragon would see right through it. And dragon would see right through it. He would see right through it. Yeah, right through you. So not only that, but physical evidence was often left behind. Like footprints, remains of animals, and detectable changes in environment picked

Starting point is 01:09:56 up by equipment like magnetic fields, for example. So there's actually, there's evidence left behind. So it's not just them being like, oh, I saw something. Yep, yeah, I did. Yeah, right. From utah.com again, my friend Brian. Since the 1950s there have been hundreds of reports of UFOs and unexplained phenomena in the uh you interbasin and not just at skinwalker.

Starting point is 01:10:18 Neighbors of the Ranch report seeing various types of bright lights in the sky often appearing as a shape that looks like a doorway or portal. Others report giant flying objects. Cattle mutilation is a common too. Some neighbors have reported seeing cows that appear to have been struck by lightning with no sign of scorched earth to be found. One group shared a story of trying to spot UFOs one night only to return to find that their car had been moved without a trace of tire tracks in the desert sand. Oh. So naturally, there are plenty of theories

Starting point is 01:10:48 as to what has happened on the ranch. And again, my friend Brian, sums up a few theories. Theory number one, people are lying to get money. Subscribers to this theory were likely the same people who raised their hand at the end of class and reminded the teacher that they had homework due. It's not a fun theory at all and so it shouldn't even be considered. I love Brian. Theory number two, extra terrestrial

Starting point is 01:11:10 visitors, Dave. This is sort of the kind that you would say. Yeah, absolutely things are the bees ones going to be number three. We're working to them from least likely to most like bees at section three. Unsurprisingly, this is one of the most popular theories about the anomalies at skin walker. It would certainly explain a lot of things like the bright lights, flying objects, strange voices, electrical disturbances, and cattle mutilated with scientific precision. But why would our flying friends be so secretive? Maybe they're filming a docuseries of their own.

Starting point is 01:11:39 Oh, of course. Who's the alien dragon? There's a... you can't. There's no equivalent. There's no equivalent. Theory number three, bees. That's not true. It's interdimensional visitors.

Starting point is 01:11:53 That's what's going to say. It's just like theory number two, but with the sort of Marvel cinematic universe twist. Rather than believing that UFOs arrive from another planet, subscribers to this theory believe that they arrive from a parallel dimension or universe. Sounds crazy, but this would certainly explain why the lights in the sky sometimes appear to look like portals. And any kind of interdimensional gateway would be bound to cause anomalies nearby, right? Right, right.

Starting point is 01:12:17 Right. And then theory number four is geophysical processes causing the brain to hallucinate. It says, hold on to your brain protecting tinfoil hats for this one, because it's a doozy. Developed by neuroscientist Michael Persinger, this theory posits that geophysical forces like tectonic shifts, seismic activity, geomagnetic fields and others may affect the part of the brain involved with creating hallucinations. Under this reasoning, everything people experience at the skinwalker is a result of increased seismic activity in the area. So those shape shifters, UFOs and portals are all just a result of the witness's brain going haywire. So there you go, that's another theory.

Starting point is 01:12:59 It's also probably worth noting this is back to me, not Brian. And I miss him every day. Yeah. It's probably worth noting as well that while to me, not Brian. And I miss him every day. Yeah. It's probably worth noting as well that while Nid's disbanded in 2004, it was quickly replaced by the Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. So that again, please. Or Bass.

Starting point is 01:13:17 Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. Space Studies. Bass. Okay, bass. Two ways, two esses. Which was more secretive and was working towards having government sponsor. In 2007, the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, or ATIP, was a secret investigatory effort.

Starting point is 01:13:39 Somewhere in there I got most parts of the word, so I won't try again. That's good. You're confident about it in the end, don't let that. It was an effort funded by the United States Defense Department to study unidentified flying objects primarily on Skinwalker Ranch. Oh, wow. So the government's getting involved. Yeah, of course they are.

Starting point is 01:13:56 From legendsofamerica.com, in the next several years, $22 million was spent on the program, which investigated reports of unidentified flying objects and was run by a military intelligence official, whose name was Lewis Elizondo from the Pentagon. The shadowy program was largely funded at the request of Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat, who was the Senate Majority Leader at the time, and who was long-being interested in space phenomena. He was also a longtime friend of Robert Bigelow. However, this information was not publicly known

Starting point is 01:14:27 until it was released by the New York Times in 2017. When the story broke, a Department of Defense official confirmed the government-funded program and Senator Harry Reid admitted his complicit, please still nailed it. Thank you so much. So they admitted that existed. Wow.

Starting point is 01:14:44 It was a secret investigation, but they did admit it. Today, parts of the study remain classified. Wow. And the Department of Defense has never officially acknowledged the program's existence, but it does admit that the program was shut down in 2012. That's interesting. So how do you shut something down that never existed? Well, with a realy TV shot with four seasons. Yeah. It's something we're going to do. something down that never existed. Well, with a realy TV show with four seasons. Oh shit, yeah. It's something that I do it.

Starting point is 01:15:06 So it may be up to the crew of the secret of the Skinwalker Ranch to solve this one. The fourth season just ate a couple months ago in August of 2023. So maybe in future seasons they'll be able to definitely tell us what the fuck is up with Skinwalker Ranch. If anyone's gonna find a dragon. Dragon will absolutely find Hills he'll sniff it out.

Starting point is 01:15:25 But for now, it remains a mystery. It's a mystery episode. It's a mystery episode. That was fun. I waited to the last possible sentence to tell you it's a mystery episode. It's a mystery. Worthy of hercule power. Yeah, absolutely.

Starting point is 01:15:41 Who's one of those famous? Isn't that wild? That's an amazing. That's an amazing. That's an amazing, that's an amazing. That's an amazing. That's an amazing. Couldn't have been a bit of myself, but I think if you had the opportunity,

Starting point is 01:15:50 would you go there? Because I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't. Even though I'm suspicious and I'm like, I don't know, I actually haven't. I still don't want to go there. I don't want to go there. No, you can be a skeptic and not want to put yourself

Starting point is 01:16:00 through that. It sounds like it's quite a terrifying, but I don't want to see a mutilated cow. No, I don't want to see that. No matter who's doing it, someone's doing it. Someone sounds like it's quite a terrifying, but I don't wanna say a mutilated cow. No, I don't wanna say that. No matter who's doing it, someone's doing it. Someone's doing it. Or something's doing it.

Starting point is 01:16:09 I don't wanna say that. I can speak myself, like just being alone in my apartment, in the city. Yes, hearing it always, you're like, what was that? I'm all the past to mirror and go, I'm like, oh, shit.

Starting point is 01:16:19 Yeah, do yourself. Oh my god, that's too spooky for me. Sometimes, sometimes, I do. Oh my god, I was like, terrifying, but just then. So you can speak easily. Oh my god, terrified. We're just then so you can spook easily I'll have to jump around corners and spook my dog. That's fun. He loves it. He does love it. Yeah, that is fun That's a fun thing to do. We're fun. You're a fun mom. Thank you so much. Thank you so much It's such a cool. It's such a cool story though. But having looked into it. Do you a theory that you're like?

Starting point is 01:16:41 This is my favorite just uh Maybe I mean, I don't, I tend to, um, I didn't even really go into much of like, there are sort of theories that it's military testing or stuff like that, uh, possibly, but I don't know, I tend to be a bit skeptical about stuff like that, but that's exactly what they want you to think. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. One thing that it never existed and they shut it down. Yeah. And I don't want to, I don't want to get too far into like that, but that's exactly what they want you to think. Yeah, absolutely. They want you to think that it never existed and they shut it down. Yeah. And I don't want to get too far into like conspiracy theory. I don't think I care enough about anything to get really deep in conspiracy theories about it.

Starting point is 01:17:12 Yeah. I think something weird's happening. Absolutely. And the spends so much money on it as well. That's the other thing. And there's relatively, they show full seasons. And that like so many people like obviously that old couple who had it for 60 years,

Starting point is 01:17:24 weird stuff happened to them, the Sherman's had a lot of weird stuff happening. Yeah. And then a bunch of skeptics and scientists went in and experienced a bunch of weird shit. You had to go, yeah, now it's odd. Yeah, and different stuff. Like obviously they're not gonna lie and say,

Starting point is 01:17:40 like this happened because I want to keep a legend alive. Like that must be true. Everything online is true. That's what I that's that that must be true everything online is true that's what I'm saying I agree everything online is true have you heard about this? yeah okay I'm open to it and convince but you're open to it yeah I've been online but I love you I'm not allowed not allowed online good say search on your full time the same as search is no search that's's a good idea, a big picture. But yeah, that's my report on skin walker ranch. I love that.

Starting point is 01:18:08 I love that. You did such a good job reading it as well. Did you feel good about it? I felt okay. Yeah, you need to be feeling a lot more confident about it because you have fun with my friends. God, and that's all you can have. That's the best review.

Starting point is 01:18:20 You really read that well. That's like when someone sees you or how long standup shows us, well done, remembering all that. Yeah. You's like when someone sees you, our long standup show says, well done, remembering all that. Yeah. You look like you had fun up there. How do you do it? How do you do it?

Starting point is 01:18:31 I did have somebody say that at the end of my first tour show, like, I don't know, you remember it all. And but she and I did drama together in high school for three years where we remembered long plays and- Did she do it? She improbable. She was great at it. She improbks Shakespeare all the time. I was like, what do you mean she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like Okay, you give us a scenario. Snail factory. Okay.

Starting point is 01:19:05 Wait, are we snails or are we making snails? I'm not just sitting in the characters. Work is at the snail factory. Okay. Okay. And that's the whole snails manager. Okay. Oh yeah, okay.

Starting point is 01:19:16 Jess, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, Hey, Jess, I just wanted to talk to you about something. Yeah, what's up, Sam? These snails are going way too slowly. Okay. Am I not meeting the KPIs? You're not meeting the KPIs, Jess. And I think you... I'm going to cross my answer to this because it's kind of funny if I'm going to get... It's quite interesting that you're not meeting KPIs. And I wish

Starting point is 01:19:37 you would. GI wish you would. Okay. Is there any way I could do that? Maybe if you stop moving at a snail's pace. Okay, I'll try to go faster. Space jump. Thank you for getting us. Thank you for getting us the fuck out of me. That was really good. I felt good about that. I got lost in the character and I felt really worried for my career.

Starting point is 01:20:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was coming down hard. I did. I was coming down hard. I'm going to lose my job. How am I going to gonna lose my job. How am I gonna feed my kids? It was that sort of manager that like I love to be everybody's friend, but if I need to come down hard, I will because I need your respect at the end of the day. And I respect you but I feed you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had that effect on people at the self-factory. Wow. Thanks for getting us out of that day because I was like, I was like, I was just fine. I was just in the improv. Yeah, I saw you starting to cry and I thought we could

Starting point is 01:20:21 have get around. That was nothing better than that. That was that was that was that was exciting. Yeah, but yeah, well, let's look. That's brought us to the end of the report. Should we thank Sammy? Yes, thank you. Could you actually also, can I get some of that on my reel? No. Okay.

Starting point is 01:20:34 Trust me mate, it was not worth it. We did not have you a good side in that. I'll get you the footage, no worries. Thank you so much. You don't want to, you're looking at it. You're looking at it and you'll understand why I see this one. No, the manager's one of my favorite characters. I love that.

Starting point is 01:20:44 Just let everyone take fun like Uncle Now Sammy, thank you so much for making your big debut On the main dude, we've had you on a burn episode A burn episode behind the paint wall I don't remember that Oh, you were pretty drunk I had a quiz with both of you

Starting point is 01:20:58 A quiz? Do you remember? The old studio Sam remembers it Oh now, Evan's straight Wow It was the best knot by you know Sam remembers it on now. I've been straight. Wow That's now second best now. Yeah, so you're a day time

Starting point is 01:21:16 You're a Dave's I was I was doing it quiz was the best night of that and I did that I object It just needs to be you and me day That's why the quiz was better than what you need. I'm all you need. I'm all you need. I have a semi. People can hear you every single week. Every go time. Every go time. On the confessions feed.

Starting point is 01:21:32 That is God damn correct. You do your confessions podcast. Jess and I have both been on many in the same way. Many, many, many. We love it. We love it. We love it because you're both wonderful on it. We do that much.

Starting point is 01:21:41 And Matt's on it sometimes too. Absolutely. You find a faxed confessions on the cloud We do that much. And Matt's on it sometimes too. Absolutely. You find a fact confessions on the blog.com. A wonderful website called reddit.com. I find wonderful confessions every single week. And I read them for amazing guests to pick apart. So it's confessions, the podcast and all the social medias. And it's just called confessions. And also every second

Starting point is 01:21:59 week, there is another one called Am I the arsehole, which is on the same feed. But it's just I really wanted to double my workload on Reddit, finding things. And so I went, how I'm gonna find Am I the Asshole? And you can identify, and people are usually on Reddit the Asshole. That is something I picked up over time. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:22:16 I'll stop you right there. It's for the rest. Yeah, it's rare when you go, I don't think you're the asshole this time. That's right. It's not often that someone's asking Am I the asshole on Reddit and they're not? Yeah. I think you know that you are, and that's why you're the asshole this time. That's right. It's not often that someone's asking, am I the asshole? I'm ready and they're not. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:22:27 I think you know that you are and that's why you're on the internet. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, so older, older, such- Check it out, Confessions. One of the great pods. It's a hundred cents, I think. It's been so much.

Starting point is 01:22:35 For people to have been- They haven't yet discovered the fact that- For the fact that I'm goodness. Mutilated like a cow. Oh my god. Beautiful book. Too soon. Too soon, I'm so sorry.

Starting point is 01:22:43 So many people, thanks so much. Thank you so much. Thank Two soon. Two soon. I'm so sorry. Sammy, thanks so much. Thank you so much. Thank you, Jessica. Thank you. Thank you, David. Thank you. Thank you, AJ. Oh, oh, oh.

Starting point is 01:22:52 Is that nice? That's nice. I like to like you. I love that. He deserves it. And that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show. Will we get to thank some of our fantastic supporters, people who support us over at patreon.com.

Starting point is 01:23:07 Slash, do your part. I mean, you can just go on there and just generally support Patreon. You can figure that out, like there's haves on there. Yeah, support everyone. Have a check everybody aback. One block at Hampton, how many could there possibly be? Surely that'll cost you no more than $50,000.

Starting point is 01:23:23 And a month, and that's just good karma. Yeah, exactly. Supporting me out. Yeah, but I think if yourself is a wealthy benefactor. Yeah, that's the dream, I think. Yeah. To be wealthy. So there's a couple of sections that we like to do here.

Starting point is 01:23:38 I'm not usually in charge of saying this stuff. I'm in my head now. You take over. Well, the first part is the fact-query question. I got shy. You got shy. Yeah. I'll in my head now. You take over. Well, the first part is the fact-quad-question. I got shy. You got shy. I'm also looking at you. This is the fact-quad-question section. And I believe, I believe, I may be wrong, but I think it has a little jingle that goes... The mic goes a little something. I like this. Fact-quad-all-question. Ding!

Starting point is 01:24:04 And she always remembers the thing, and I always remember the ding. And basically, people that have been that support us on Patreon, there's a level of the Sydney Shineberg Deluxe Memorial package. Get to give us a fact, a quote, a question, a brag suggestion, a recipe, a shout out, anything. It can be anything.

Starting point is 01:24:23 Yeah, you know, these days it could be an agony-art cry for help. I was about to say a fact, and that's the first option, but I thought I'd give something new. Oh my gosh, they could give us a fun fact, is that something? And they get to give themselves a title, and do you want me to read them? I would love that. Okay, well, our first one this week comes from Isaac, Kel Tengko.

Starting point is 01:24:48 And Isaac's given themselves the title of, Guy who overheard the guy telling the other guy that he's walking there, that they're walking there. Ah. I'm walking here! I'm walking you. And is it the same as your last one? I believe it might be. I'm just double checking that I haven't

Starting point is 01:25:07 got the same exact fact-quart question. No, as this is one of the same title, which we love. It's an important title and look, it's nice to stick to a title. Some people mix it up, some people stick with it. Exactly. Whatever you wanna do, this is your section. Yeah, once you become a sir, you don't say,

Starting point is 01:25:23 actually I'm gonna be something different now. Actually, doctor. Yeah. You know?, once you become a sir, you don't say, actually, I'm going to be something different now. Actually, Doctor. Yeah. You know? Has there ever been a doctor sir? We'll never know. We'll never know. This is a question from our guy who's over the other goat.

Starting point is 01:25:35 He's walking in there, they're walking there. Isaac has written in to say, hey fellas, what's poppin? Or in just a case, what's poppin? Ooh. That's enough lolly gagging around. Let's get straight to the point here. Love this. Hey fellas, what's Poppin? Or in just a case, what's Poppin? Ooh! That's enough lolly-gagging around. Let's get straight to the point here. Love this. My dad recently told me that his favorite beer was Fosters.

Starting point is 01:25:53 Yuck. Having never tried it before, I took him to the shops. We found a couple of cans and took them home to Cipi Cip right up. Lovely. 25.4, answers later. FL, what are we talking about? I don't understand this yet. 25.4 ounces later. FL, what are we talking about? I don't understand this.

Starting point is 01:26:07 Whatever. I look down at the green can, I notice it says, founded in Australia. So I put two and two together. Australia plus beer equals fact quarter question segment. Sure. I would like to know what each of your favorite alcoholic beverages are, and which are your least favorite. Oh. And Isaac has answered the question. I can also answer for you. But let's hear Isaac's answer first. Personally, I like a good ol' Guinness. Pena Kalata.

Starting point is 01:26:35 Or old fashioned. I hope you guys are doing well and happy block. And to you, sir. Well, something I'm a bit baffled by and look, you know, Isaac is obviously a patron supporter and at a very generous level. So I don't want to criticize. But fosters is like the stereotypical. Yes, they're like the Isaac.

Starting point is 01:26:54 I wasn't familiar with Australia being fosters being the Aussie beer, even though we can't readily get it in Australia. Yeah, we don't, and we don't particularly like it. No, it's one of those things where, especially in the UK, you find it on tap at a lot of pubs and people go, oh, you're Australian, you must love fosters, but here. And we're like, no, that's piss. It's not on tap anywhere that I've ever been to. No.

Starting point is 01:27:14 You can sometimes get it from a big retail like Dan Murphy's, you get like a slab of 24 pack, but it's expensive because I think they have to re-import it. That's crazy. Even when you said fosters on tap somewhere, I was like, I've never seen fosters on tap. Yeah, at the in London and places that I've seen that. Wow. So yeah, it's just interesting to me. It's like, oh, fosters is Australia.

Starting point is 01:27:31 Yeah, so that's right. It's the stereotype one. Yes, but we don't know. I think we hate it. I think might be, I don't know, not in the UK. Yeah. Might be somewhere in Asia or like Caribbean or something or it's like, maybe it's hard to get as well.

Starting point is 01:27:43 And we all have little gaps in the knowledge and stuff like that. You can miss things. I just found out, it's really interesting. Okay. But it is a, yeah, famous Australian, but also where I was, like, we don't really drink that. Yeah. Favour drinks.

Starting point is 01:27:56 Favour drink. Dave, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan,

Starting point is 01:28:04 Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, You've got great choice. Can I just say, let's get a cocktail. What's mind, Dave?

Starting point is 01:28:04 What do you reckon I like? Your favorite alcoholic drink. And then it's tough because I'm not a huge drinker. No, when we go out, what do you drink? Oh, sorry. I might have stumped you a bit here. Is it a vodka raspberry? It would probably be vodka.

Starting point is 01:28:19 Haven't had vodka raspberry in a long time. Makes me too excited. Okay, my favorite would be a margarita. Oh me too excited. I, I, okay. My favorite would be a margarita. Oh, I, of course, I should have known that. Yeah. You love a margarita, drink. You love a margarita food. It's my favorite combo.

Starting point is 01:28:32 Yes, damn, I should have known that. Marg's and Marg's. I feel embarrassed. My dream, you should, you should. But, uh, but like I said, I'm not a huge drinker, but also I probably would just have like a vodka lemonade or something. And I know people like,

Starting point is 01:28:43 Vodka soda, it's less calories. I, it tastes like arse. I don't like it. Give me my sugar water. I want to feel bad tomorrow. Matt, I mean obviously he's a passionate beer drinker. I know, but he would have a long list of his favorite beers. So it's, I don't know, we can't, we can't have the great man, but he's, I don't know what Matt's absolute favorite is. No, I don't know we can't add the great man, but he's um I want I don't know what Matt's absolute favorite is No, I don't know either actually. He doesn't mind again. I don't think he's absolute favorite No, but he'll have that and he often has like a dark stout which I'm really gonna say a stout Yeah, no, I'm not into those there's a bit there's way too thick for me. Yeah, but Matt loves those

Starting point is 01:29:22 Um, do you want to say no to a cocktail, either? No, that's right. Yeah. I would say that my favorite beer we are talking about is I like lighter pale beers. Yeah. Fruitier stuff. I also, I had a, do you know the beer Pacifico, the Mexican beer? Yeah. How do I know those are in a Mexican restaurant last week?

Starting point is 01:29:38 And it was, I don't know if it is actually different, but it came out and it was the proper imported one, where it was all in Spanish and then they had to put an import label on it. And I don't know if it's just because it was cold or it was the proper imported one, where it was all in Spanish, and then they had to put an import label on it. And I don't know if it's just because it was cold, it was a hot day, or the lime they put in there. But it was heaven. Oh, yeah, great. Absolutely, the love. Could have been about as your factors there,

Starting point is 01:29:54 but so good. Yeah, but I've always loved to specifically go, but I don't have ever had the proper import. There you go. I like a cider, an apple cider, or a pear. I know you love cider, that's what we get you. I do like cider or a ginger beer. The thing is I had to move away from cider's and wines

Starting point is 01:30:11 and stuff because the soulfates trigger migraines. So I kind of had to pull away from that a lot. So that's why I don't drink as much anymore because I just sort of got out of the habit, or got out of the practice, I guess. Yeah, practice. That a practice, but don the habit, we'll go out of the practice, I guess. Yeah, practice. Out of practice, but don't worry, we'll get it back. We'll bloody get it back, don't do war with all that.

Starting point is 01:30:30 I love it. I love it. I think, Isaac, great question. Great question. Next, Fact Quetta question that comes from Sky, question mark, dollar sign, ampersand, at symbol number four percentage sign. That's incredibly offensive.

Starting point is 01:30:44 How dare you? Our title sky's given itself is the best bone boulder, Billy Johnson. The best bone boulder, okay? The best bone boulder, Billy Johnson. I have no follow up questions. Yeah, does that a reference to something? I said I have no follow up questions.

Starting point is 01:31:01 What do I do? Okay, well, I don't want to hear the answer. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la It means nothing just a string of consciousness. I see. Well, I'm glad we figured that. I've glad you googled that and now you look insane to your computer. And I'm afraid we're going to disappoint Scott here because it says this is a Bill Bryson quote so Matt has an excuse to talk about him and just has to let him. Here it goes. I'd have to do anything.

Starting point is 01:31:41 Well, I've got to read on, even though I don't really like Bill Bryson. This is quite from Bill Brosson. Roads get wider and busier and less friendly to pedestrians, and all of the development based around cars, like big sprawling shopping malls. Everything seems to be designed for the benefit of the automobile and not the benefit of the human being Bill Brosson. That's nice. What's that Bill?

Starting point is 01:32:01 Thanks Bill, really gives you something to think about. But who's behind the cars Bill? I'm behind the cars, and I'm a human being. I feel that triggered by that. Thank you so much. Because I got hit by a car. Oh, sorry, yes, absolutely. And I was not behind that car. Well, we don't know if that's true. Check my dash cam. I've asked for a dash cam for Christmas. My wife thinks I'm crazy. Just like that's a waste of a Christmas.

Starting point is 01:32:30 You just seen your 30s. I know, I was like, because she goes, no, what else do you want? I'm like, I don't need anything. No, I don't need anything. I don't need a video game. If I want that, I'll buy it.

Starting point is 01:32:38 Yeah, that's the thing, but I would never, it's like I feel like I would never buy a dash cam. But I think the idea of them are kind of cool. Yeah, I think so too. They're useful practical, but I'd never buy one. So I think it's a perfect gift. It's a beautiful gift, something I wouldn't buy myself.

Starting point is 01:32:50 Exactly. I don't need socks and jocks. I buy them myself. What do you get the person who's got everything? Socks and jocks. A dash cam. Our next up, we have Brodric Henry. Oh.

Starting point is 01:33:01 The title is The Apparent Daddy Warbugs. Okay. Why do I smell a wet dog? And it is a fact coming from daddy warbuck's. Okay. Hello my lads and little skipper. Thank you very much, hello. I've been listening to you apart for about eight years now and loving every moment of it.

Starting point is 01:33:20 Wow. Every moment. Brodrick, I haven't loved every moment. I was a Patron subscriber in the past for a bit, but Stockton money was a bit tight. Fair enough. Absolutely. And if you're on the Patreon and you feel the pinch, which we know you do, feel free to jump off it.

Starting point is 01:33:36 We totally, we totally understand, jump down. If you want to, if that's more comfortable. You've got to feed yourself before you feed us. 100%. I don't say. Don't all jump off, though. For the love, we're not all suddenly. You know, to feed yourself before you feed us. 100%. 100%. Don't all jump off though. For the lovely, not all suddenly. You know, maybe a gentle decline would be better

Starting point is 01:33:50 for us in terms of financial planning. We have to eat also, but yeah, don't all jump at once, but if you need to, we understand and we love you still. Thanks so much. Listening to the recent block app and being told the Christmas cards were coming up soon again, I decided to go and get asked problem level to get a new card.

Starting point is 01:34:11 Imagine my surprise when I learned I've been on the dream boat Cooper level for the past three years. And I don't always listen to the end of the pod, even on Debron's favorite. So I don't know if my name was ever called in the shout out, so that's a trip dish club. So here I am spending an extra $15 to hear my name hopefully mispronounced.

Starting point is 01:34:28 So here we are, take my money and since I'm already here, I guess I'll stay to make sure you're a still fed properly. I'll just talk to that feedie. But you could have also just sent us a message and asked if we've missed your shout out. I'll look it up for you right now. Brodrick.

Starting point is 01:34:44 Brodrick, am I, Brodrick Henry? In the, how else could I say? Trip ditch. I think not just the shout out. Oh, just the shout out. Was it just the shout out? I said three years. Hang on, let's have a look then.

Starting point is 01:34:57 I didn't need to do this right now. We've got to check out, shout out, and the trip ditch. I'll look that up as well because. Oh, not in shout outs, unless I'm spelling wrong. See, the problem is... No. We're not sure... It's because you just get to feel out of form to be in this section.

Starting point is 01:35:13 Is that then the same name you use on Patreon, Brodric? Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. We may not know. Brodric, send us a message, and we're looking to that for you. Let us know what your name is on Patreon if it's different because I can't find you just on that name if your name's different or send us your email address or something message is on Patreon and we'll look that up for you. Message is Brodrick but this is us saying your name multiple times Brodrick Henry. Brodrick, Brodrick, Brodrick, Brodrick. How

Starting point is 01:35:40 else can we say that? Brodrick Henry, the apparent date of your voice. Brodrick. Oh maybe it is Broderick. Thank you for that. Surely it's not Broderick. Well, we're about to find out. Send us a message. Thanks so much. And finally, for this section of the show,

Starting point is 01:35:53 we'd like to thank Evan from San Jose. The title is Assistant Vice President of the Alternate Backup Dugo One Fan Club. Silicon Valley Chapter. Perfect, thank you. An important chapter. The Alternate Backup Dugo 1 Fan Club. Silicon Valley Chapter. Perfect, thank you. An important chapter. The alternate Backup Dugo 1 Fan Club. Thank you so much, Evan. And we've got a fact from Evan, which says, in a recent episode, you referenced the Pinkantins detective agency, or as a detective agency.

Starting point is 01:36:19 I just wanted to point out the fact that they were primarily thugs and strikebreakers for robber barons of the industrial revolution, though I'm mostly hired by rich capitalists to beat and murder their own workers. Jesus Christ. They did so in Buttemontana in the 19 teens in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the 1892, Homestead riots and in many other places. I'm going to say I don't remember mentioning the Pinkitons.

Starting point is 01:36:45 It's very vague. No, I remember we said it pretty recently. I can't remember why, but it's also on my mind because I recently just did on Bookcheat, the Deschial Hammett novel, The Multi's Falcon. Okay. You can check it with Alexey Tully, Uplus and Michelle Brazier,

Starting point is 01:36:58 and he's like the father of hard-boiled detective riding and was once a Pinkitons himself, that's your number. There you go, okay. So that's definitely on my mind. That's really interesting, Evan, thank you for. So they must have done some detective. That's like a fact, but also a bit of a fact check. Yeah, did you sign up?

Starting point is 01:37:16 This looks like it's Evan's first fact-boiled question. Wow. We've got two people this week signing up, Rodric to say hello and Evan to tell us about the pinks and look you know a lot of people will just tweet at us to correct us on things but we could ignore that and so in this case we could not ignore it so that's smart. Exactly and we've got it we've got to say thank you for the correction I mean it's a fact probably a grim fact we could say. I guess so, yeah, it feels pretty grim. Yeah, but thanks so much.

Starting point is 01:37:45 And our next section of the show is that where we shed out a few people who have been supporting the show, we love them. So we usually, we just use the content of the game for a way we can thank them. Yeah, I was thinking with, you know, because we did get a bit of a kick out of the blue meanies, didn't we? Yeah, yeah. So maybe we could come up with, you know,

Starting point is 01:38:10 it's some sort of phenomena, we don't have to go into heaps of detail about it, but what it's called. That these were the first people to see this strange phenomena and what it's called. Yeah, so blue meany, something like that. Yeah, yeah. Should I get the horse name generator up?

Starting point is 01:38:28 Oh my gosh, yes. Okay, I want to. I miss the horse name generator. It's saving one of my bookmarks now, so it's. Have you used it ever outside of the podcast? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I refuse.

Starting point is 01:38:42 Good. This is just for the pod. So do you want me to? Even when I'm playing the Sims and I have a horse and I need to name the horse. Do you name your horse? Yeah, you can name your horse. You never random horse name generated your horse?

Starting point is 01:38:55 No. Okay. Hey, should I kick us off? Please. I would like to thank first up from Nozzie. Or Nozzie. Nozzie. Howzli. Nozli. Nozli. Nozli. All right, now you said it properly. Rebecca. Rebecca with two Ks. Double K-A-H. You need to know who you are. What about

Starting point is 01:39:21 who you are. What about happy Yosemite? Happy Yosemite, okay. I like that. Happy Yosemite. That, for me, I'm imagining like someone who wears like a large hat, like a green hat, almost a leprechaun-like. Okay.

Starting point is 01:39:39 Like a happy Yosemite. You're thinking Yosemite-same, but leprechaun. Leprechaun and yeah, happy happy, maybe leaves coins under your pillow. Okay, that's nice. Yeah. Let's that. Do you want me to go next? Yeah, sure.

Starting point is 01:39:53 Well, let's go one, let's back and forth. Okay. Should I get the horse name generated up then? No. Okay, because I didn't even know what to type in in the proper horse name generated. And I won't share it. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:40:02 From Melbourne, Victoria, Zanthy. Zanthy. Do you want to just count for something? Oh, okay. No, I mean, I can do it. I can do everything if you want. I can just do it all myself. I didn't age you.

Starting point is 01:40:15 Pickle boy. Pickle boy. I say I love that. And horse name generator. I'm gonna call my dad. You got so chuffed with you. Yeah, a pickle boy. Happy with that.

Starting point is 01:40:23 I love pickle boy. Um, about the size. No, it's no. Pickleboy. Don't need to know anything about him. No. You know, Pickleboy, imagine what you're thinking. That's it. Pickleboy, you've nailed it. And we've all thought the same thing.

Starting point is 01:40:31 That's what's crazy. That's the phenomena. What? Pickleboy, we all know what Pickleboy looks like. We all think Pickleric essentially. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Anyway.

Starting point is 01:40:40 I would like to thank from Woodbridge, New Jersey. New Jersey. It is Catherine Pagliuccia. Oh, I love it. I love it. I guess so. Yeah anyway. I would like to thank from Woodbridge, New Jersey. New Jersey. It is Catherine Pagliucca. Oh! Paglucca, Pagliuca. Pagliuca. Catherine P. Catherine. What about Cyclone Bill? That's cool. This is pretty cool. Cyclone Bill. Again, I'm thinking like a Yosemite Sam type character. I was imagining like that mix with a Tessie devil. Tessie devil.

Starting point is 01:41:12 It kind of like spins in. It sort of cyclones in Cyclones out. And it makes a real mess and you're like, fuck, it's Cyclone Bill. And maybe you're, yeah. I'm Cyclone Bill. Yes. And he just appears and you're like, how's he getting?

Starting point is 01:41:23 What the fuck is going on? Where do you go? Crazy. Thank you, Catherine. I can't get you. Oh, fuck us love. Where'd he go? Crazy. Thank you, Catherine. I would also like, Oh, how fucking dare you? Oh, that's right, because you said peg-leo-cho or peg-leo-quit. Oh, you thought I'd- That made me think that you'd said it.

Starting point is 01:41:36 But I didn't. I just corrected you. I would also like to thank for North Melbourne here in Melbourne, Tim Law. Oh, it was jumping here. I think it in Melbourne, Tim Law. Oh, it's jumping here. I think it's probably pronounced Tim Law. Okay, thank you. Thank you for that. Tim Law.

Starting point is 01:41:50 Tim Law. What about teddy bear taxi? I mean, it's not terrifying, but it's good. Well, it is when you see the teddy bears. Oh, right. They are horrific, very little. Oh my god, they've got rabies. It is.

Starting point is 01:42:08 They are rabbit. It is not good. Tim Law. I don't know if you can tell, but we're recording this pretty late in the night now. And we've lost our minds a little bit. But don't worry, everyone. We've got our scrims to eat after this. Oh my god, I'm so excited.

Starting point is 01:42:21 Let's hurry up. I would like to thank from location unknown, I can only imagine somewhere deep within the fortress of the malls. Hannah Gregory. Hannah Gregory, you slide dog. Slide dog. There you go. I've done it.

Starting point is 01:42:36 The slide dog. Okay. What are you thinking? It's a dog with a real shifty good size, like for the Simpsons. The dog doing shifty eyes. We missed one as well. I wanted to shout out from Chicago. I knew that.

Starting point is 01:42:52 I wasn't sure how to pronounce this name, so I thought you should do this one. Jennifer Dickinson? Yeah, I wasn't sure. Never heard Jennifer out loud. Never heard it out loud. One of the... Yeah, I'm like, is that Silent J? Anifer.

Starting point is 01:43:06 What about Jennifer Davidson? Geronimo Vegas. That's good. Yeah, these are just good horse names. Oh, but Geronimo, but like, that sounds like the name of a ghost to me. Yeah. Oh, I heard some, you know, the floorboard's creaking last night.

Starting point is 01:43:22 Oh, Geronimo Vegas. That's just trying to make me a ghost. Don't worry about it. That's just trying man, I guess. Don't worry about it. That's a strong man. Yeah, don't worry about it. He's most active between like two and three a.m. Yeah, but I've got used to me, plugs, you'll be rad. Never heard a solid draw on my Vegas.

Starting point is 01:43:32 Yeah, no, he's great. He's actually good fun. He's actually pretty fun. You like him. Okay, back to you. Okay, I would like to thank from Maynard in, where's this one? IA. IA. IA. I would like to thank from Maynard in, where's this one? IA!

Starting point is 01:43:45 IA! IA! IA! IA! I would like to thank Melissa Goss, Melissa Gossi. Ooh, Melissa! How about majestic nuts? Yes, and what about the horse name generator?

Starting point is 01:44:00 Or Picasso nuts. Picasso nuts, but they're all wee. Oh, okay, oh. Take your pick there. Majestic or Picasso nuts. All nutty. All nutty. Nuts had to be included, I apologize. I don't apologize.

Starting point is 01:44:16 Finally, I would love to thank from South St. Paul in Minnesota. Whoa. Taylor. Taylor. Taylor. Taylor. Taylor. Taylor. T-A-L-Y-A. Whoa Taylor Tell you tell you Tell you

Starting point is 01:44:28 T.A.L.Y.A. Tell you tell you okay, you can't put one okay Clean your mind Take a deep breath Let it out Okay, the vicious yep sausage vicious sausage Yeah, that feels right God the vicious you do not want to come across the vicious sausage. Vicious sausage. Yeah, that feels right. God, the vicious, you do not want to come across the vicious sausage.

Starting point is 01:44:48 The vicious sausage. If you say anything wrong, you'll be honoured forever. Yeah, you say it three times. Vicious sausage. Vicious sausage. Vicious. Oh my god. That's just a bit of silly fun.

Starting point is 01:45:03 Yeah, don't worry, Talia. We're not going to have the vicious sausage onto... Vicious sausage. Vicious sausage. To warm up. Vicious sausage. Vicious. There you go.

Starting point is 01:45:14 Everyone, have a go. Have a go. We'll wait. So thank you. Thank you to those people. I've lost their names now. I've got them. Talia, Melissa Hannah, Jennifer Tim, Catherine, Zanth, and Rebecca. Jennifer, did I say that their names now. I've got them. I'm Taliya Melissa Hannah Jennifer Tim Katherine Zanth and Rebecca Jennifer. Did I say that right?

Starting point is 01:45:27 Yes And so the last thing we need to do is just welcome a few people into the trip ditch club. Oh, yes So what this is I'll explain this Dave And I'll do it seamlessly is if you support the show on the shout out level or above For is that correct? That's right. For three consecutive years, you are automatically welcomed into the TripDitch club. Once you're in, you can never leave.

Starting point is 01:45:53 It's like a cool, exclusive clubhouse, but not in a dickish way. We've got Matt's on the door. He lifts the velet rope, checks your name off. I'm behind the bar. This week, serving bits of cow, and please don't ask where I got them from. I'm from. All sliced very cleanly though.

Starting point is 01:46:15 Very beautiful clean slice. And, but I thought about making like a skin walker cocktail, but- Oh, that sounds really gross, but I want to hear what it is. It's Johnny Walker and a human finger and it didn't go well in some of the taste tests so I'm gonna scratch that one. It's a normal open bar It's weird. Dave you always book a band as well. Yes, you're never gonna believe who I've booked this way. Who have you got?

Starting point is 01:46:40 You'll never ever ever Who have you got? You'll never, ever, ever believe it. Yes, you've said that. Well, I read out the name of this band. You'll be like, I can't believe that this is the band that he could possibly get. I'm impressed you're able to pad so well while still desperately typing and trying to do this.

Starting point is 01:46:56 I don't know, I've been getting anything. I'm just getting up the contract to make sure all the eyes have been dotted, all the teas have been crossed. Yes. And this week, you're never gonna believe it. One of the most famous bands ever come out of Utah. Hahaha.

Starting point is 01:47:09 Yes. Even though they are now based in Las Vegas, Nevada, apparently. Sure. And there's anything to do with fucking Utah. Why do you talk about? Hahaha. The hometown is provo, Utah, playing life tonight. But obviously I've booked this band months in advance.

Starting point is 01:47:24 Imagine Dragons. advance. Imagine dragons Imagine dragons who is the name that I recognize and I'm sure I hear if I heard the songs I don't know a couple But I can't think of any How cool and we're excited to hear songs such as believe her with two billion streams Jesus Jesus What was that noise? Jesus Oh my god, they've had 57 million monthly listen. Why have they said yes to come and do it? They're number 27 in the world What the fuck?

Starting point is 01:47:54 Imagine dragons with a name like that? Oh my god. I'm embarrassed for them, but they're playing here tonight And we can't wait to ask them if they know of this Utah legend. Yeah. So we have a few people to welcome into the TripDitch Club tonight, Dave. I will do the role of Matt, and I'll lift the Velvero, I'll tick their names. Oh, that means you'll be the negative PRICK. Absolutely not. I think you can.

Starting point is 01:48:22 Because I'm still going to be me. And so you're going to hype them. I'm going to hype you. So, babe, we're cutting out all that negativity. A.K.A. Matt Stewart. And we're cutting him out with precision. Let me tell you, you won't even know. Thank you. So we've got four people to welcome into the club tonight. Are you ready? Absolutely. Okay. I hope this people you. I'm so happy. I love you. Thank you so much. I love you right back. It has a tight and it's sorry. I was still thinking about a magic. Let's listen to Imagine Dragons on the drive. We will.

Starting point is 01:48:56 Well, sitting those ice creams. I probably like, oh, this is pretty good. I get the appeal now. I just didn't know that that was that big. But me either actually. Okay, first up, we welcome into the TripTitch Club from Brunswick Victoria. It's Lindley Evis. All Evis are no by-head here. Woo-hoo! That's good. From Rifle Colorado, CEO Colorado. Yeah, but Rifle's awesome.

Starting point is 01:49:20 Maybe Riffle. It's Aaron Romero. Romero Romero, Romero. Where for out there Romero? Oh holy frickin' shit. Here's your Juliet. Uh, it's Aaron Romero. Romero Romero, where for out there Romero? Holy frickin' shit, here's your Juliet. Yeah, yeah, I've got a Shakespeare one in here. Never done that before. From allston Massachusetts, M.A., Maryland. Ah, let me quickly double check that.

Starting point is 01:49:37 I'm so sorry. I reckon it's Maryland. It's Massachusetts. Massachusetts. Oh my god! From allston Massachusetts, It's Walker Anderson. Walker, right on it! It's in finally from Aurora in Colorado.

Starting point is 01:49:51 It's Cheryl Engelsman! Engelsman! More like, what runs the Engelsman? What runs the Cheryl? Nothing feral about Cheryl Engelsman? What runs the Cheryl? Cheryl. Um, nothing feral about Cheryl Engelsman. The best way that runs it too. Woo!

Starting point is 01:50:11 Let me go to this website, which I love Rhymes Zone. No, you've nailed it. There's nothing feral about Cheryl. No, it sounds offensive. It doesn't. You've said there's nothing feral about Cheryl. Well, this, what, Rhymes Zone's fouled me. It thinks Carol runs with feral with Cheryl, sorry.

Starting point is 01:50:27 Um, um, um, um, I'm not saying sterile. Yes. It's Cheryl. I don't think that's good. Oh, okay. Um, uh, never in peril when I'm with Cheryl. And it is their time to chat. So welcome in Cheryl Walker, Erin, and Lyn Lee, make yourself at home, grab a drink, not the one, the gross one, sorry, again, about that. And, uh, yeah, make yourself at home, grab a drink, not the gross one, sorry, again about that. And yeah, make yourself at home and welcome to the club. And it was something that squirrel runs with Cheryl.

Starting point is 01:50:53 Squirrel and Cheryl. Honestly Dave. That's Cheryl and Squirrel. Speak American. Squirrel. Squirrel. You think this crack about runs with Cheryl? Okay, we have to go. That brings us to the end of the episode. Thank you so much for listening. Hope you enjoyed.

Starting point is 01:51:12 If you want to check us out on social media, you can do so over at do go on pod on all socials. I think we're do go on podcast on TikTok. You can suggest a topic. There's a link on our website or in the show notes. And yeah, Dave, boot this baby home. Hey, we'll be back with another episode next week. But until then, also thank you so much for listening. Until then, it's goodbye. Bye!

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