Do Go On - 421 - Skinwalker Ranch

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

Skinwalker Ranch is the most studied paranormal hotspot in history situated in northeastern Utah, this 512-acre ranch is famed as a hotspot for everything from poltergeist phenomena and crop circles, ...to UFO sightings, dangerous electromagnetic forces, dancing fireballs, and cattle mutilations.This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 13:15 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.utah.com/articles/post/what-is-skinwalker-ranch-and-whats-really-going-on-therehttps://www.uah.edu/news/news/uah-scientists-brave-curses-spooky-anomalies-to-unravel-secrets-at-skinwalker-ranchhttps://www.newsweek.com/ufo-skinwalker-ranch-utah-pentagon-paranormal-1701730https://www.skinwalkerranch.com/https://medium.com/the-para-scope/whats-really-happening-at-skinwalker-ranch-e16bf21416f6https://www.legendsofamerica.com/skinwalker-ranch/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31a3DGLiB48https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjaQXQg0dtI Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenjai Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Ornicki.
Starting point is 00:00:51 And as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins. Hello, Jess. Hello, David. Your bottom is looking nice today. Thank you. I'm glad I installed that mirror on the floor so you can see it while we record. Yeah, I've got to stop wearing skirts to the work, though. To the work.
Starting point is 00:01:06 To the work. Well, this week we are joined not by Matt Stewart. He is gallivanting around the United States of America. He's dead. filling in his large shoes this week is what could only be described as the most commonly requested guest in the history of the podcast, possibly by themselves. It's Sam Peterson. Hello, Sammy.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Feels good to request it and feels good to be. I'll tell you that much for nothing. Sometimes you just got to ask for what you want. That's right. And you have done that. I have done that. I said, hey, what up? I slid into your DMs.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah, yeah. Fire emoji. What up? And then I said, hey, you absolute two baddies. What do you respond with? And Dave said, wait, how dare you? We're not bad people. Whoa, whoa, I'm a good person.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I was like, Dave, it's how the young kids talk these days. He doesn't get it. A, F, that's loll. That's loll. That's loll. Lots of love. We speak English on this podcast. I know, I know, but I'm having some fun and mucking around and having a bit of fun and there's nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Chill out. Chill out. I agree. Fun is fun. Fun is fun. And I'm just putting my fun seat belt on if that's okay. You can't see that at home. You've got to be safe.
Starting point is 00:02:10 You've got to be safe. God. But what an absolute pleasure it is to have you here this week. And what an honour, a do go honour to be here. I mean, not just a friend of the podcast in, you know, when people say that when it's like, oh, you're a friend of the podcast in that we've had you on. And you don't mean it. You've been on your podcast, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah, you don't mean it. A friend IRL, dare I say. Well, do you know what? I was there when I think I would like to say you two met for the first time. Woo! At a Dave Warnocky dates the entire audience, which I was in the show with. And you came along with your podcast. No, your sin radio buddy at the time.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Yeah, that's right. And Jess came along and I was like, I've met Jess before. And then I was like, oh my God, do you want me to introduce you to Dave Warnocky? And you said, absolutely not. I don't like the guy. Because I'd already met him. Yeah, had we met? Yeah, because you must.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I think I made the whole story up. But it was probably only one of the first couple of times I'd met both of you. I like to think so. I like to think so. It was early in all of our friendship. That was the first time I got the Sammy Seal of Approval, which meant you really started looking at me in a new light. That's right. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:12 That was a great show. Wasn't a great show. I played Dave's manager, which was loosely based on a real-life manager. That's right. Very loosely based. It was actually basically that person. But we rebranded, renamed it, the Samager. The Sammajam.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Sam the manager. That's good. It's just clever start. From there, we just don't stop joking. We don't stop joking. Remember one of the first jokes that I won't repeat here, but it was very full-on and it was a weird thing to open with. And then it was fun for me. Sorry, we could really judge a crowd that night.
Starting point is 00:03:43 If they're on board, whether they went, who, or they went, oh, my God. You can't have a three seconds. I think you guys should do another show together. I would love to. I would absolutely love to. Sorry to put that on the record. Well, I'll tell you what was a weird thing. And Matt Stewart brought this up, gorgeous Matt Stewart, who I also met at a comedy night.
Starting point is 00:03:57 And Matt always brings up that I said to him, Andy Matthews told me to be nice to you tonight. And has my opening gambit, which I think is fun from me. Still recovering. Still recovering. Matt and I've been feuding ever since. I want you to know. I wouldn't be kind to you otherwise. But I'm under strict instructions from Andrew Matthews.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And he is watching overmash. He is always watching. He watches everything, the absolute baddie. Yeah. But I, when we did that show, Matt Stewart said to me, because then we did a few other shows, Dave and I did a few other shows. And I slowly, I was the manager in the first show, but then I kind of confused myself because I was kind of me
Starting point is 00:04:36 and kind of also Dave's manager for the rest of the show. So I, and I will, this is my. public apology to Dave, I will apologise for the other shows because I don't really remember if I was me or a manager in those shows. It really blurred the lines between a character I was trying to play and also myself, because I was having a lot of fun up there. Which, you know, early days of comedy, God, you love them. Back when it was fun. Back when it used to be fun and before we were all jaded. God, we're jaded and bitter now. Aren't we all? But we still all get along in our own way. We've never sat in a room together. In our own way. In our own way. We do. We do.
Starting point is 00:05:10 get along. We do in our own way. In our own. In our own. In our own. In our own way. We don't have each other's numbers, but you talk to my manager. I talk to yours.
Starting point is 00:05:20 That's right. My manager is you. That's right. And I did tell a day before. He used my emergency contact. Yeah. He found that out in a crisis. And he helped me.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I actually found out I was somebody's emergency contact when it was like an emergency. That's what that's a brutal way to find out. Give people a heads up. But in the way, I stepped up. You always step up, though. That's you, though. I took you to the hospital. God, you did.
Starting point is 00:05:45 You've done your back really badly. Because I'm 32 years old and I got how to bed. Yeah, yeah. That's how I did it. Yeah. But with your one, Jess, is it the kind of thing they make the call and they say, oh, you're just as the emergency contact? You're like, really?
Starting point is 00:05:55 I went to school with her. I don't really remember. Jess Perkins is shot. From Triple Jack? It was a good friend of mine. Yeah, who lives. Duke one will come first. Then Triple J.
Starting point is 00:06:04 The Triple J. The Triple Jeline is the emergency contact. Yeah, yeah. They're like, Jess, please help me. And I'm like, I'm on air. I can't. If I leave, presses the buttons.
Starting point is 00:06:13 There's no one else. There's no one else. I'm alone. Dr. Carl's behind you. I'm here, I'm here. I'm always here. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I'm always here. At you go. Atch go. Dr. Carl does weekend avos from there. Were you confused by the tap? No. And I, look, as it turns out, I was interstate. So she had told them, don't bother calling her.
Starting point is 00:06:31 It was my friend, Anna, who lives really close to me. Oh, okay. And is single and all of her family's in Perth. Yeah. So I'm close by proximity, but also a close friend. But yeah, she'd had a fall and, like, had damaged her eye. But I was in state and couldn't help her. So then she was just alone in hospital.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It was an absolute nightmare. Oh, no, no, this is we're going to give Dave that's a secondary because you'll always be there. No matter what. If I was interstate, I would have made it back. I don't know how. Chartered a helicopter. For someone you've never met. Of course I'll be there.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Don't even think about it. I don't know how he does it. I don't know how he does it. I don't know. Baby, I got you. Stop for me, baby. Now, Sammy, this is a big time of year in the do-go-on podcast and calendar because we are celebrating blockbuster tober slash blovember now.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yes, yes. Well, we count down our most requested topics of the year. We put out a big online poll. A lot of people voted, and we are giving the people what they want in order. Now, I'm just having a little check here. This is the third most requested topic of the year, Sam. Huge. Can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That's two below me in most requested guest. That's right. That's huge. That's huge. We've got the most requested guest and the third most requested topic. Together, this could be the most powerful episode. It feels powerful. We should get the third most requested guest to be on the most requested episode.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It'll be Andy Matthews for sure. Surely. Let's bring it all back. Again, it's him requesting it. Yeah, huge. We're up to the third most requested. It's been suggested by a lot of people, so I'll read out their names shortly. This is huge.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But I do have a question to get us onto the topic. Always start with the question. Always start with the question. Here is my question. It's a loose question. Anyway, which US state? I've got a few different facts here for you for this state. You can jump in.
Starting point is 00:08:14 You could go away if you want. If you had to pick one and 50 shot here. Can I buzz in? Sure. A US state. I'm going to say USA. No. Dave, do you want to have a crack?
Starting point is 00:08:25 Technically, he's covering quite a few there. He's covering quite a few. But I said all of it could be a part of that. It is a part of that. Okay. So half a point to Sam. I'm off right. I'm off right.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I'm going to say Canada. That is incorrect. Okay. So then your first clue is nicknamed the beehive state. The beehive state. I know this one. Do you?
Starting point is 00:08:43 Dave knows what it is. Yeah, but he's a trivia guy. Keep going with your clues, though. Can I guess again? Yep. U.S. I mean, you're a lot close. This is good.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Do I get another half a point? Because I've got a full point for getting it right, maybe. I would give you one third of a point. Yeah. That's good. The U. You part is...
Starting point is 00:09:03 New York City. Is that quite good? He's really good at drug ever. Because he's so good at it. This sort of stuff. No, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay, what about capital salt lake city?
Starting point is 00:09:16 Abbreviation, U.T. Utah. Utah. He's got it. He's got it. I knew it from the start, but I wanted to have some fun because I love comedy and I love to pop cast. I wouldn't have had a fucking clue what the Beehive state is. I heard that before.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I reckon even. you would have got to Salt Lake City and I would have been like, Salt Lake City. Yeah. Is that maybe Utah, I don't know? And then maybe the abbreviation might have got me there. But if that hadn't got me there, state bird California gull would have got me there.
Starting point is 00:09:44 That would have got you there. Yeah. Home of the Utah Jazz. Oh, yeah. Love that. Just like those trick questions. Is this a tricky one? Is this a tricky one?
Starting point is 00:09:54 Utah, more like me, tar when I'm there. Is that something? Can we write that down? Is that like you saying, Ta, like me? Yeah, Ta. Thank you. I love it when people just say ta.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Me too. It sounds a bit aggros sometimes I was like, ta. Well, it's because you teach children to say ta before they can say thank you. Do you say ta to people now? Absolutely not. No. I think as an adult or beyond maybe the edge of five, saying ta is like so passive-aggressive, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:10:17 I'm going to start doing it. So I'm going to get a coffee and go, ta. Yeah, all right, ta. All right, ta. Ta-for now. Ta-for now. Say ta-for now. Ta-for-na.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Ta-for-Sam for Sammy. Ta-for-Sam. Ta-ta. Ta-ta. Anyway, we're here to talk about. Utah. Could I do that for a bit more? I can't,
Starting point is 00:10:36 the third most request of topic is Utah. Well, no, it's just something that has, uh, that exists inside Utah. Beehives.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Beehives. And a whole lot of soul. Oh, God. No, this one's, this one's a bit of a paranormal, uh, maybe a little bit of a spooky topic.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Wow. Okay, would have loved a warning. Yeah, maybe don't listen to this one as you're trying to go to sleep in the dark. Okay. With your night light on. You get a little spooked.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Oh, God. I hate to get, I don't get ski ward often. You're going to. But when I do, oh, I guess get, well, come. Let's just say that. I can say that. I get a call us the emergency contact.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Sam's had another spook. Dave's phone just starts ringing while I'm here. He's had a spook. He's had a spook again. His heart rate is going wild. Dave's like, say no more. I'm on my way. I get a notification from Sam's Apple watch that he's having a heart of time.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Dave gets all of my notifications. And I've got an air tag on myself. And Dave gets had notifications too. The air tag is closer than you think. Somebody has to. Somebody's got to. I'm a single guy. Somebody's got to be.
Starting point is 00:11:33 keeping an eye on you. That's right. At all times. I need to care. I said that. I won't bloody do it. I won't bloody do it. You've said that. You've made that very clear over the years. So as I said, this has been suggested by a bunch of people. So sit back and relax as I read off some names for you. It's been suggested by Dakota from Alabama. That's such a cool name. Bethany Brown from Vegas. It's just like having Matt here. Commenting on every fucking name. I won't. I'm going to sit this one out. No, no, it just makes me miss him. I feel free to pick a favorite. Spencer Libby from Oxford.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Holly G from Utah. Holly G. Holly G. That must be Andrew G's relative. I can only assume. Michael Daly from Essex. Aaron Wolf from Daytona Beach. Paul Jacob from Michigan.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Neil Staplin from Wisconsin. Phil Ellis from Hampshire. Andrew Mallard from Indiana. Brandon. Oh, Brandon Castanada from Utah. That's good. From Utah. That's a very good.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Allison Beverly Day from Utah. I love a three. pronged name. That's fun. Is it a triple barrel? Is that what you call them? Or double barrel? It's a double barrel if it's two. Double barrel. It's a name with a fantastic first name. Alison Beverly Day. Love it. So many good sounds in there. Jackie Parsons from Perth. Martin Benson from Ennis and County Claire. Oh, God. These names are incredible. So good. And finally, Peter Kinesler from Wilmington, North Carolina. That's the end of the podcast. See you later. Good night, Australia.
Starting point is 00:13:03 A topic that people suggested Thank the people And never talk about the tomm. And then move by and go, McDonald's, so the McDonald's monopoly eyes. Just want to thank you guys. Just want to thank you guys
Starting point is 00:13:13 for suggesting it and good night. That would be a good topic. We agree. Bye-bye. The topic, we'd have done. The topic that they have suggested is Skin Walker Ranch.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Is this, does this ring any bells for you at all? That sounds disgusting. It does. It's a skin walker. What is the skin? Is that two words? Like,
Starting point is 00:13:33 Or one Skywalker. I think it's all one word. Luke Skinwalker. It's, Luke Skinwalker's brother. Yes, that's correct. Skinwalker ranch. Scamwalker ranch.
Starting point is 00:13:42 It's a double barrel name. And weird stuff can happen on a ranch. Oh my God. It's so bitter. Well, apparently it's the most studied paranormal hot spot in history. But like, now that I read that out, I'm like, what about Area 51? Surely there's others. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But it's definitely one that has been, yeah, studied a lot. Okay. It's situated. In northeastern Utah, it's a 512-acre parcel of picturesque desolation and is famed as a hotspot for everything from poltergeist phenomena and crop circles to UFO sightings, dangerous electromagnetic forces, dancing fireballs and cattle mutilations. Oh my goodness. It's like Disneyland for spooky stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yeah. It's amazing. They put them all in one area, you know. I mean, there's stuff happening all over, but if we can get them to come together like, a convention center of sorts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go to your spooky stall. Spooky stall.
Starting point is 00:14:38 See everything spooky you want to see. Yeah, get it done. Say spook, please. Yeah. Like, on my bucket list, I want to see some spooky orbs and some kind of hyena hybrid animal. I'd love to see some mutilated cattle. Yeah, and they're like, well, have we got the destination for you?
Starting point is 00:14:54 Yeah, wow. That is spooky. It's a bit weird. That is very sweet. Yeah, it's pretty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That does make me skilled. I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:15:01 That doesn't make me skilled. Yeah. get a notification of either. Sammy's had a spook. Tiny little spook. I hope things go pretty smooth from here. Let's just say that. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So some people believe that parts of Northern Utah are the most active, paranormal and supernatural hotspots on the planet. Wow. Lights in the sky, unusual humanoid figures, and even Bigfoot sightings have been witnessed in this area. That's surely why they've rebranded as the beehive steak, because that's really cute. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And I think that the logo, if you see, it is beehive. It's very cute. I think bees are cute? Yeah, really cute. If you get up close, if you get up real close, they're kind of fluffy. Yeah, I get that. And they look kind of nice and cute. And Jerry Seinfeld always voices them.
Starting point is 00:15:43 That's true. And he's cute. He's a cute. Can I just say that? He is a cute guy. Cute between you. But he is cute. So cute.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah, two letters for you. QT. Let's just say that. I think bees are cute. Yeah, bees are cute. Do you not like them, Jess? No, no, I don't. I am.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I don't go to Utah. I'm a little indifferent to bees. What about the European ones, the bumblebees that are, like, they're all fluff. They're all fluff. Yeah, I can get around that. All fluff, all scruff. I was walking the dog the other day and my partner, there was bees around. And he was like, are you a bit scared of bees?
Starting point is 00:16:13 Because he was a bit anxious. And I was like, no. What are you? He's like, yeah. Like, why? He goes, well, I got stung as a kid. And I'm like, okay, and do you have an allergic reaction? He's like, no.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I'm like, then I don't think you have. I think the fear of bees is what if I am allergic and I don't know it and I have an an inflectic shot? You know you're not allergic. to bees. Yep. So. That's why I've got Dave on standby just in case. Just in case.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I've got the epipan strapped to my shin. Just in case. Have you ever... You are full on, Dave. Either of you, have you ever had a friend that is terrified of birds or are you terrified of birds? No. I've got a friend who just cannot be near a bird when it flies by.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Oh, like a sea girl overhead. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess it's because they're swooping them, but I don't know if birds really ever like, I guess they can kind of claw on a little bit. But I don't know. I think bees, I'd be more. terrified of bees than I would about birds.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Birds kind of feel a little bit chill. I can punch a bird. And you will have. If it's coming right at me, I can punch a bird. You can knock it out to one single blow. Those really big birds, like a big old eagle or something? I'm going to be like, I'm a bit scared of you. But like a pigeon flapping at me.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah. Fucking come here. Out of the sky. My two mate, hosp and pittal, you're going to meet her. Come here, bird. Bang, bang. Now, you're just walking out punching birds in the face. Only if they're coming at me first, it's self-defense.
Starting point is 00:17:32 You're not attacking them. You're not running up and he hit them. Like rocky training. I'm not attacking any birds. You're not. And that's on the record. No animal cruelty here. You don't go to the Birds of Prey show at the Hillsville Sanctrine.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Stop punching eagles. Absolutely not. I go and I love that show. They are pretty much. And I say, wow, look at these majestic animals. They are majestic in their own way. Yeah. Anyway, can I go back to talking about spooky shit?
Starting point is 00:17:52 Thank you so much. But in summary, some people would find be spooky. I guess some people might. Your partner. You think they're cutey-a-butto-buttoos. Yeah, they're so cute. Some people find mutilated cattle's cute. There's something for everyone here.
Starting point is 00:18:03 That's right. Yeah, I get the horn. You might think Bigfoot. Hello. Big feet, you know that means. Exactly right. That's what I've heard. So much of the strange activity is concentrated in and around the Uintar Basin.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I didn't look up how to say it. I wouldn't worry about it. It won't come up that much anyway. You know it up. Which covers nearly all of sort of northeastern Utah. Right. But some believe that within that basin, there is an epicenter from which all of these bizarre phenomena seem to manifest.
Starting point is 00:18:32 So you've got Skinwalker Ranch. It's situated about 100 miles east of Salt Lake City. And as with any large property like it, traditionally it just sort of adopts the name of the current owner as it sort of gets passed on. It would be like Warnocky Ranch and then I'd buy it from you and be Perkins Ranch or whatever I want to call it or whatever. The name changes. But over time, it's sort of come to just be known as Skinwalker Ranch.
Starting point is 00:18:55 So the native Ute people, the indigenous people, people believe that the ranch is sort of the focal point of a curse that was placed on them by the Navajo people. Wow. And tribe members were and still are forbidden from setting foot on this land as they believe it to be in the path of the Skinwalker, which is like a type of harmful witch who has the ability to turn into or possess or disguise themselves as an animal. Oh, that's a bit scary.
Starting point is 00:19:23 They're like a bit of a shapeshifting. Yeah. And they can just be any animal? Yeah, kind of. Yeah. They believe in themselves, sure. It's pretty, if they want, if they want to be, I don't know. It's really, it's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:35 The kind of history of like skin walkers, it's not something that Native American people will talk about, especially to non-native people. Right. Okay. And, but they're like, yeah, skin walkers are, they're the badies. Yeah, I get absolute baddies. I've never heard of a skin walker before. Absolute badies. In a bad way, though.
Starting point is 00:19:54 That's a bad way. Yeah, I say the bad way. That's a bad way. But hearing the name, you know, the insulin. I was like, I don't know what that is, but it doesn't sound nice. Exactly right. Skin Walker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's like a skin crawl. That's what I think. Yeah. They're not fucking with them. Okay. So because of this native legend, the ranch became known to the locals as Skinwalker Ranch. It sort of didn't change names as it got past. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:20:15 So throughout the later half of the 20th century, Skinwalker Ranch was owned by a family, which long remained anonymous in this mysterious story. But we now know was Edith and Kenneth Myers, who owned the property for about 60 years. Before they start a mire, the company in Australia. That's right, yeah, and we thank them for it. The department store. Oh, God, it's good. It's got everything you need.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Yeah, not a plug. It's a one-stop shop. It is. You don't need to go shopping anywhere else. If you've got a Maya, you're fine. Yeah. Move on. Lovely Christmas windows.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Beautiful Christmas windows. You need a dress shirt and a tie and some board shorts. Some glasses, maybe some glass wears. Some glass wear. Some glass wear. Some glass wear. Some glass wear. A to dress wear.
Starting point is 00:20:55 A to dress wear. A tuesday. A ture. A ture. Airport shorts. Day's wearing it all. He's a fancy guy. So for reasons unknown though, they suddenly and inexplicably vacated the property in
Starting point is 00:21:08 1987, leaving it empty and unattended for more than seven years. That was until 1994 when it was purchased by Terry and Gwen Sherman. Along with their two children, the couple believed that they bought their dream home. Of course. Oh, no one's told a range. No one's told them. You know what? So you have to.
Starting point is 00:21:27 No one told them what? No one told them what? What? There's skin walkers around these hair parts. And they're like, oh, see that. That's why it says Skin Walker, Antwer. What's that mean? The real estate agent's like, nothing.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Skinner. Skinner on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just Eric Skin and Terry Walker came together. Came together. Lovely people. Lovely people. Still alive.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Definitely still alive. Still alive. Still alive. Very happy out there. They're just downsizing. There's downsizing. They need a smaller ranch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:51 They did this ranch was, this ranch was so profitable for them. Oh, so nice. Yeah, mega rich. Yeah. And so they've moved, they live on a yacht. They live on a yacht now. Yeah. In a paddock underground.
Starting point is 00:22:03 That could be you. That could be you. Yeah, that could be you. In a paddock underground. So Terry planned to use the space on the ranch for cattle, but he couldn't have known that the land he had just purchased would almost destroy him financially and psychologically. Oh, no. Terry.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Terry, Terry, Terry. My goodness, Terry. When they first moved into the property, day they're moving in, unpacking boxes. I did that recently. Absolutely nightmare. Oh, the worst thing in the world. The worst thing in the world. It is the worst thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:22:33 It's such a funny thing to say given the current climate of the world. It is the worst thing. God, I hate that. Oh, moving house. Gotta hate that. My coffee's too hot. Worst thing in the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Gotta hate that. God. God, I hate that. So anyway, they're moving in and they found the main homestead to be very run down in need of some attention. But, I mean, they anticipated that. It's been, it's an old property. It's been left there empty for a few years It's going to need a lick of paint, a little TLC
Starting point is 00:23:00 That's tender loving care Okay, just can't keep up with these kids It's too hard You're absolute baddie, you're doing well You're really old But they were surprised to find a large number of dead bolts around the property Both on the outside but also the inside
Starting point is 00:23:15 You only want a live bolts Do you just get an air break? I think I got you out Don't worry about it I think I just got you out Sammy, you're a guest here You just get to sit back and relax You don't need to throw to ads.
Starting point is 00:23:28 All right, you just let me know. You just let me know. If you want me to throw to ads, I'll throw to ads. I'll let you know. If you want me to go out on a high, I'll go to know. So just back to the dead bolts. Were you more surprised about the ones on the inside? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Normally when I lock a door, it's from the inside so people can't get in when I'm home. Sure. The ones on the outside would be people are on the opposite. You like it from the outside? That's a good point, but it's like, inside windows and stuff, like big heavy bolts on them. Yeah, good point about that's where locks would be. I tell my neighbor every night, you lock me in tonight. But I do have to get up early for work tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:23:59 So if you could, and if I don't answer my phone, my emergency contact Dave will be here within the second. He's got keys. He's got keys. I don't have keys. He has keys. I don't trust myself with keys. I don't trust myself with that. Dave carries my keys.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Don't have to burden myself with that. Dave will have everything you need. Dave, I'm home. Dave just got home. Where are you? Come lock me in, please. Come lock me in tonight. Thanks, Dave.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Every night. Every night. Dave doesn't have a life. Doesn't need one. Not with me. They found thick chains inside as well used to chain up guard dogs. Oh, okay. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I'm freaking out now. Yeah, it just all felt a little bit weird. But they just assumed it was the previous owner's been a big kooky. There was a large harpoon on the wall? And they're like, okay. It's fine. So as they're in the process of moving in, moving in all their boxes. God have been there.
Starting point is 00:24:46 They spotted worst thing in the world. They spotted something in the distance. And as it got closer, they can. could see it was a wolf. Oh my gosh. But Terry Sherman was immediately concerned and not just because it was a wolf. Because based on its side... It was made of bees.
Starting point is 00:25:05 It was made of bees. It was made of bees. And Terry is deadly afraid. Very close. Very cute up close. Not that far away. Terrifying. Far away, very scary.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Very scary. Up close, adorable. Jerry, Jerry Seinfeld? That's so fluffy. Based on its size compared to fence posts and bushes in the distance, he could tell it was at least three times the size of a wrenuous. regular wolf. Oregon Terry's just got no idea of what perspective is.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Look, there's a mountain like three kilometres behind it. It's the same size as the mountain. So is the size of a mountain. Hold on. My hand is huge. Oh, no way. Put it. No, it's normal size.
Starting point is 00:25:39 That's normal size. Oh, God. The wolf is too close to my face. The wolf is the soft of my hand. I don't think he's comparing it to these. I don't think there's any risk of people getting spooked listening to this episode. I'm scared. Are you?
Starting point is 00:25:52 I'm trying to protect everyone else. With humor. With humor. and God, the worst thing in the world. Yeah, it's jimma. People have heard about moving house. People are terrified right now. So I think that's three times the size of a regular wolf.
Starting point is 00:26:04 That's very big for it. Because wolves are already big and they're big. Big dog. And so it came, it got quite close to them, but it sort of slowed down and stopped about 50 feet away from the family and was looking at them with bright blue eyes. They don't usually have bright blue eyes, didn't they? That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:20 But also like, they were talking about it almost seemed tame, Like it was kind of wagging its tail And looking like a sort of domesticated dog kind of thing Apparently one of them was able to like give it a pat Oh, from 50 feet away It's a long arm It got closer Oh sure
Starting point is 00:26:36 Fuck dead I've worked so hard on this thing That I mean Can't believe I miss Matt Hey don't say that Don't say that He would absolutely be talking Bullocks right now
Starting point is 00:26:49 He'd be talking bollocks Out of his bollocks Because he'd be so scared That's right now Bright blue eyes. I know a couple of boys bright blue eyes. Sitting right here. Hey?
Starting point is 00:26:58 Sitting right here. Yep. Sitting right here. A couple of wolves. A couple of the wolf pack. It'll be other wolf back, aren't we? But suddenly. Can't we?
Starting point is 00:27:09 The wolf noticed one of the family's baby cows, a calf, if you will. Oh, well. And it quickly moved to where the calf was and took its head in its mouth. Oh. Just decided to attack a calf. Just playing or? So Terry, he's sort of like, get off. So he's hitting the wolf with playing.
Starting point is 00:27:23 clanks of wood. He called out for somebody to get his shotgun. He got the gun. He shot the wolf right in the abdomen and it did nothing. The wolf didn't even react. It's wearing body armor. Probably, probably full vest of armor. Yep. He fired again, still nothing. Oh my God, it's not a wolf. It's a tank. Terry, come on. It's a tank. You're being under attack. A third shot had some kind of effect. The wolf released the calf and sort of backed up a little bit, but still wasn't looking... After being shot a couple of times. Yeah, three times now. Yeah. And a fourth shot. straight to its heart, and still, the wolf looked pretty unfazed. Is it one of those things like in an action movie where, like, you know, you shoot someone
Starting point is 00:27:59 and you expect them to stop, but then they just slowly look at you like they're really annoyed by it? Yeah, yeah. And then the person, like, drops the gun and puts the hands up and goes, I'm sorry, I'm really sorry. Yeah, yeah. It has that kind of vibe. I'd do that if I was an actor and didn't want to die in the scene. Just keep walking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Just keep walking. Just get shot again. The squibs are going off underneath your shirt. So it's looking like you're being shot repeatedly, but you're just walking slow-mo into the camera. Feeling good, looking powerful. I'm trying I remembered the word squib. Yeah, that was good. That was nice.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And then you go to the director, can I get a copy of that footage? They go for my tizzle reel. I understand I'm fired, but can I get a copy of that? I don't understand. I won't be doing it again. I understand. My leaving package, could I get this? Could I get that?
Starting point is 00:28:39 So they, so eventually, they've shot the wolf four times out. That's absolutely wild. It retreats. It sort of wanders off. Probably runs off. Yeah. But worried about the safety of his family and his cattle, Terry and his son grabbed their guns. and followed the wolf.
Starting point is 00:28:54 They're like, let's, fucking, we're going to kill this wolf. You're just moving in. I bet Gwen's like, yeah, no worries. I'll unpack the fucking boxes. Yeah, oh, God, I've been there. They're like, anything to get away. That's so funny, because it happened with me, because I was moving the boxes as the movers went around to kill all of the wolves.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Oh, my God. It was so, and I was unpacking all the boxes. And you're like, I'm not paying you for killing wolves. I go, you got to kill this wolf though. You've got to kill this wolf though. It's like that classic, I've seen it a lot on TikTok lately of like women talking about getting their house ready for a gathering or they're like doing all the cooking
Starting point is 00:29:27 or like cleaning up and their husband goes and mows the lawn or cleans the outdoor windows or something and she's like, it's not, that doesn't help. It's not the time. That's what Gwen feels like now. We're not eating off the windows. Gwen's like, okay, so I'll just like set up everyone's bed
Starting point is 00:29:39 so we have somewhere to sleep. Where I'm pretending I'm in the Roman Empire. I've got a huge sword and I'm following a wolf down the rug. Anyway, so they follow the wolf's tracks for around half an hour and they eventually find themselves in a wide mud bank.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And they could see the wolf's prints in the mud, so they're following that along. But at a point in the middle of the wide stretch of mud, the poor prince abruptly stopped. Oh, gosh. To avoid leaving more prints, the wolf would have had to have jumped like 40 or 50 feet. Yeah, that's probably possible.
Starting point is 00:30:10 That's what we're all thinking, isn't it? That's probably possible. Yeah. That does seem like quite a long way. Yeah. So it seemed like the wolf had disappeared into thin air. I don't think so. But maybe.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Okay, skeptic over here. Yeah. I'm a big old scepto. But I'm over here going, I believe. I believe. I want to believe right now. I want to believe. You want to believe.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Right. Well, I just flat out, don't. Well, let's see if this next bit gets you because some of this is spooky oaky. Oh, God. I'm terrified now. So over the coming... Yeah, the panic button's been pushed. Over the coming weeks, Terry's wife Gwen had some strange experiences in their new home.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Small things that would make her feel like she was losing her mind. Things like unpacking the groceries and then leaving the room only to return to the kitchen and find all the groceries in bags on the counter. on the counter. That happened repeatedly. So she unpacked them. Put them all right. And then they're back on the counter. Yeah, in the bags.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Is someone playing a hilarious practical joke on her? Because that would be very funny. It's quite a lot of work to unpack everything, but maybe. Yeah. What about this one though? Other times she would lay out her towel and hairbrush before having a shower, only to find them missing when she got out of the shower. And she would find them eventually, hours later, somewhere really random in the house.
Starting point is 00:31:16 She got slippery surfaces? It just slipped off, you reckon. Because I grease up all of my surfaces. every night as you know. Before a shower. That's why you keep hurting your back. Oh, it makes sense. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I'm an idiot. He's slipping in the shower. The noise and face you just made. Oh, it was incredible. Thank you so much. I wanted it on a T-shirt. I'll give it to you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Thank you so much. Anyway, so, yeah, how do you explain that? Where's her towel going? There's a hairbrush gone. That would be so annoying to get out. Oh, yeah. No towel. You're looking around the house sort of dripping wet and cold.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And your hair's a mess. Your hair's a mess. That's the most important bit. Top down, always top down. Hair first, then care second. Yep, hair and care. You know that. I'm always saying that.
Starting point is 00:32:00 He's always saying that. Things would go missing off on around the property and then turn up in strange places. Terry one time was fixing a fence and a pretty large piece of equipment he was using suddenly vanished. Like he used it, went to do something, turned around, it's gone. And he thought his kids had played a trick on him or something. But they were like, nope, everyone's been in the house. It appeared a few weeks later hanging in a tree on the other side of the road. ranch, like 20 metres off the ground.
Starting point is 00:32:25 That's a good prank. That's a good prank. Yeah, I love hanging stuff up in different places. At other times, lights were seen on the property. Initially, Terry thought it was headlights, sort of assumed people had taken a wrong turn and would make their way back to the main road. First step, grab the shotgun. That's right.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Terry, shoot first, ask questions later. That's right. That's your right. That's your right. That's your right. Shoot from the hip every time. Shotgun from the hip. Always, place it on your hip and shoot.
Starting point is 00:32:49 He looks psycho. He's never, he's never, never hit. I've never hit. I've never hit. I've never hit anything. Yeah, shot that war four times. I mean, I missed four times from the hit. But I did shoot towards it, roughly. But one time he saw the lights and he approached him, he thought it was people that were like hunting on his land. So he sort of went towards the car. But as he approached, the lights seemed to move away from him. And he realized there was no engine sound. And the lights then suddenly moved up into the air flying above the tree line.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Tesla. Tesla, probably a Tesla. It's a new feature in a Tesla. Quiet and flying. That's just it. One button, does that. It's amazing. You pay extra, one button, does that.
Starting point is 00:33:30 How much extra? Ten bucks. Jeez, that's not right. Yeah, it's actually pretty good. You'd actually be silly not too. Silly not. That's how they get you. That's how they get you.
Starting point is 00:33:38 But the maintenance on that feature, fails. It's all the day. Per day. It's crazy how they get you. So he's seen these lights fly over the trees. And these lights become a frequent occurrence. This happens all the time. I'd walk out there and I would just.
Starting point is 00:33:52 just say stop. I would just say enough is enough. I've had enough of it. I've had a gutful and I wish you good night. And I would go to bed and I would sleep. I would sleep all night on my oiled up bed. Yep. I'd slip out during the night.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah. I'd call Dave. I've hit my back again. I've slipped out of bed. I don't know how it's happened. I've slipped out of bed. I'm all sleeping. Slidy again.
Starting point is 00:34:15 How is to like pick up a man who's covered an oil and put him in the back of your car? Very difficult. Did you have to lay out of tarp or something? Yeah. Tap down. I've got to wear like oven mitts. To deal with him. He's also very hot.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Could I ask? Sorry, a personal question, but how does your wife feel about your commitments to Sam Peterson? Very supportive. Very supportive. Oh, that's good. No, so he's talking about me. I'm very supportive. Sam helps me get through.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Don't listen to her. Why are you talking to her again? I'm all you need. Just crying. My mascara is running down the face. Oh, God. trying again. Is that mascara running down or just oil running off his face? You can never know. It's hard to say. It's hard to say. On one occasion, the Sherman saw a strange hyena-like creature attacking
Starting point is 00:35:01 one of their horses. And they just... I was just trying to sleep. Oh, no, something like that. Should you need to go another break? Described as low to the ground, heavily muscled, weighing perhaps 200 pounds with curly red hair and a bushy tail. This doesn't sound like a hyena to me. No, it's a chirope. It's a hyena-like. Sounds like carrot top. He's very buff now. Is he?
Starting point is 00:35:24 Are you seen him? No. God, he looks good. Wow. Good for carrot top. He looks great. Seinfeld and Carrotop. God, I'm attracted to both of them.
Starting point is 00:35:33 And really topical references. Very timely. God, I love to be topical. Didn't go on the pulse over here. Don't know whose pulse. Sammy P. and the zeitgeist are like this. Oh, we get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:35:44 As Mr. Sherman approached the animal, it vanished before his eyes. Afterwards, they checked the horse and found numerous claw marks on its legs. Wow. But a few months later, a neighbour reported seeing a similar beast running across their property. Oh my goodness. Carotope again.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Skoky. Come winter, the ranch was hit with a particularly cold snap and a lot of snow. And Terry found himself out rather late one night on horseback, looking for one of his prize Angus cows that had wandered away from the herd. He eventually spotted hoof prints, relieved he wasn't too far from finding his cow. He followed the tracks into a clearing in a densely wooded area. but once again found that the prince stopped suddenly, much like the prince of the wolf. Cows certainly can't jump 50 feet.
Starting point is 00:36:28 They cannot. Can they jump at all? I don't know, actually. I don't know. They can't walk downstairs. We know that for sure. Because I've got one in my apartment and I can't get it out. That's why I did lock.
Starting point is 00:36:40 You're going to have to crane it out. I'm going to have to crane it out and that's okay. Is it? I think it's fine. Take a wall out. I'm sure that's fine. Get the cow out. Get the cow down.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Put the wall back. Yeah. They're still parked in my driveway, hunting them wolves down, so I think they can probably take it. So they're blocking the whole driveway. They're blocking the whole driveway. The neighbours must be furious.
Starting point is 00:36:57 They are so mad at me. They hate me. The cow won't shut up. It's just a mess over there. God, your life's a wreck at the moment, isn't it? It's not going well. It's not going well. But it's love to just have some time out and be here.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I don't know why you had to bring the cow. That's the only thing. So over the course of that winter, four more of his cows would disappear in a similar fashion. No. Just disappear. Out of thin air, where's that cat? He'd often stay up late at night, hiding on his own property, to try and see if he could catch whoever or whatever was attacking his cattle.
Starting point is 00:37:28 This is the start of him losing his mind, isn't it? Potentially. No. One night, to his shock, he saw a black mass hovering over the ground about 100 yards away from where he was. He thought it looked a little bit like an F-117 Nighthawk, a stealth plane. Oh. Or a bunch of bees. Or a bunch of bees.
Starting point is 00:37:50 We don't know. They can shape shift. It could have been some bees. It could have been a whole bunch of bees. Or it could have been an F-17. F-1-17. I know. He looks a little bit like when he's like, it looked like a snub-nosed F-1-17.
Starting point is 00:38:05 And I'm like, sure. I would know how to describe that. Hey, hey, hey, hey, you had me at F-1-17. You get it. Yeah, we know it's got a snub-nosed, man. But it was floating about 20 feet. But it doesn't. He's saying it looks like that, but if it had a snubbed nose.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Oh, okay. Put the drip snoot on it. Put a drip snoot on it. Now we're talking. Okay. It was floating about 20 feet above the ground and was completely quiet. So he's like, I know it's a stealth plane, but I'm still going to hear something. And then coloured lights shone down onto the snow below.
Starting point is 00:38:35 And Terry watched the aircraft for about 15 minutes until at one stage it seemed to like turn towards him, almost like it was looking at him. And then it turned the lights off and it slowed it off. Have you ever felt like a plane was looking at you? you? Yes, every night. Every night. I've been at quite a few airports and never thought that plane is looking at me. That plane is staring me down. You look away.
Starting point is 00:39:00 You look away. Get out of a plane. Get out of it. Oh yeah. What do you take a photo last longer? Respect my privacy plane. This man is losing his mind. He's not threatening a plane.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Just go to airports every night. Oh, here you come. No, fuck you. Come here and say. You got something to say? Come on your side. Great point. Maybe that's how planes feel about people who go out and watch planes.
Starting point is 00:39:28 They're like, fuck off. I'm trying to land. You absolute creep. Ew. And people are always trying to like get underneath them as planes go over as well. Oh, yeah. Stop looking at my nether regions. My netheres.
Starting point is 00:39:41 You're upskirtinging a plane, you absolute pervert and you should feel ashamed of yourselves. That's so gross. Anyway. So he's seen a... I hate that. He's seen... a UFO essentially. Essentially.
Starting point is 00:39:50 For 15 minutes, did you get a photo? No, of course not. Okay. As spring... How funny is it as well? I'm so sorry to interrupt here, but how funny is it
Starting point is 00:39:57 that the worst photographers in the world are always the ones that take photos of like unidentified things? Yeah, yeah. It's always like Bigfoot. It's like the blurriest photo ever. It's like, oh, there must be one person one day. Yeah, and now everyone's got like an 800-pixel camera in their pocket.
Starting point is 00:40:13 They're always awful photos. Still can't get it. There was a recent Bigfoot siding and it was absolute dog shit. Yeah, yeah. Exactly what people are saying online. They're like, yeah, almost like, how do you have such a bad camera still? How did you miss it? How did you miss it?
Starting point is 00:40:27 It's like my mum's taking a photo of Bigfoot all the time. It's just zoomed in. It's crazy. It's still zooms in. How do you even do that? Someone's like, yeah, he's a photo of Bigfoot and they just accidentally take a selfie. Yeah, no. I got him.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I got him. Oh, I got him a beauty. That's me looking at him. It's just a photo of you crying. I'll go and take this photo real quick. As spring sprung, more cattle disappeared, but now they'd reappear, somewhere on the property dead. Oh, I'm scared. I'm scared. Okay, I'm officially scared now. Sometimes the cause of death wasn't apparent. There was like no wounds on it.
Starting point is 00:40:56 It looked like it just had dropped dead. Other times, the animals were mutilated. Oh. The family continued to experience strange things. Um, the unexplainable lights appeared more and more frequently. Paltogists were seen inside the house. And black featureless entities began to appear at windows and at the ends of beds. Oh, that's scary. Plains at the end of your bed. You don't want a plane at the end of your bed I told you to get out! Yeah. Stop looking at me!
Starting point is 00:41:26 At what point would either of you be out of this place, of this goddamn ranch? As soon as I'm seeing things inside the house. Yeah, I'd be out. Like little creaturey type things are saying? Yeah, I'm not. Mutilated cow. Especially on like an isolated ranch.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yeah. Your neighbours are what, 30, 45 minute drive away? Like it's maybe more, it's... You don't need that. I don't want to be there. You don't want to be there. I wouldn't be out on a ranch anyway. That's not your vibe.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I wouldn't have even started here, you know? At what point would you be out? I never was there. I was never there. I was never there. I was like, all right, just play my game for 10 minute. No, I was never there. I don't know who you are.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Stop asking me questions. Leave me alone. Strange sounds would be heard as if they were coming from beneath the house, almost as if there was machinery operating underground. And neighbours could hear this as well. Voices were heard. They described it at times of feeling like a voice was coming from like the sky. God.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Really strange. Random holes were found on the land. Random holes. But no dirt piles. Oh, wow. Where's that dirt come from? What do you meant to believe? And like huge big holes.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Where's the dirt? Where's the dirt? Hey, Antim, riddle me this. Where's the dirt? And strange creatures were spotted in various spots on the property, from Bigfoot-type humanoids to canine hyena hyenas. There was also an invisible being that was witnessed. Now, how do you witness something invisible?
Starting point is 00:42:43 Well. Was it a being or a bean? Being. Okay. Do you guys say bean? I thought you might have said invisible bean. Which is cool. An invisible bean.
Starting point is 00:42:51 How do we know? How do we know it's an invisible being? It could be a bean. It could be a bean. It could be a bean. It's a magical bean. And I reckon Americans can't hear the difference in what we're saying. Bean.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Bean or being? Mr. Bing. Mr. Bean. You know that comedy character, Mr. Bing. So you would see cattle would part as if something large was like running towards it. Wow. Just all of a sudden they'd all part. And then also, that I was.
Starting point is 00:43:17 sort of like, okay, but then it also said water would splash as if large feet were stomping through it. That would be fucking spooky. Yeah, that would be spooky. I'd be well and truly out by the time. I'd be like, I'd be like... We wouldn't be on a ranch in the first place. I'd be like a cartoon character. Like you'd hear a boing and then you see me in the distance. I'm gone. Yeah, you're way gone. We see like your outline and then it sort of disappears in dismayed. That's right. That's right. Oh my God. She's gone. There's a jess shaped hole in the wall. I'm gone. A bright orange light would appear sometimes on the horizon And when Terry viewed it through a telescope
Starting point is 00:43:51 It looked like some kind of portal With an opening in the centre It would be the middle of the night It's bright orange light But then he could see like a blue sky in the middle of it Like it was a portal to another place I wouldn't like that I don't like that
Starting point is 00:44:07 I don't like that Small red orbs would often appear on the property Visible in the tree lines And they seemed largely harmless other than they sometimes antagonise the cattle a little bit. But sometimes larger... Larger blue orbs would appear, and you wouldn't want to see the blue orbs.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Oh, okay. Because they're hotter than the red ones, famously, in fire. Oh, right, yeah. Would you take the blue orb or the red orb? Blue every day. Blue's my favourite colour. Blue goes in my eyes. Yeah, and I don't do red.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Don't do red. Red's not for you. Nicknamed the blue meanies. Actually? Yeah. Yeah. That's less scary. The Blue Meanys.
Starting point is 00:44:47 That's really taking the fear factor out for me. Imagine if that was a gang. The Blue Meanies. Oh, don't talk to the Blue Meanies. We're on Blue Meanies territory. Oh, I'm so scared. But these all of us were somehow able to instill intense fear in people who got too close to them. The Blue Meanies.
Starting point is 00:45:05 They could, you would look at them, you'd get too close. You'd be filled with an intense fear. Oh, God, I'm scared now. I'm scared. Of all of the strange and scary things, that Terry and Gwen saw on the property, the blue meanies were the thing they feared the most. Because of like the weird emotional response, maybe.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Yeah. So after two years of losing sleep and fearing for their safety in their home, they lost losing 14 head of cattle and their family pets due to weird phenomena. Oh, not the pets. Not the pets. And on the brink of bankruptcy, the family had enough. Their story had caught some attention from the media and was seen by Robert Bigelon. Now, Robert Bigelow, an American businessman, he owns Budget Suites of America and is the founder of Bigelow Aerospace.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Oh, not Juice Bigelow, American. Not Juice Bigelow. It's different. It's his brother. So a year before this in 1995, Bigelow founded the National Institute for Discovery Science, or NIDS as I'll call it throughout this, to fund the research and study of various fringe sciences and paranormal topics, most notably, UFOology. Is that he's it? Ufology. Uphology.
Starting point is 00:46:13 to buy the ranch from the Shermans, reportedly for $200,000, and they happily accepted and got the fuck out of the end. Right, but he wants it because it's spooky. Yeah, that's right. I think it's all offering. And they said, thank you. Honestly, he could have lowballed them so bad.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Good luck with the blue meanies. I mean, you could take this money, or you could stick around here and hang out with the blue manis. The choice is yours. I think I can hear the blue meanies coming now. Did you want me to see if they want to, oh, you'll take the $10.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Slow down. Blue meanies, atties, blue meanies. They're leaving. He controls the blue meanings. So NIDS has moved into the ranch. This is 1996. And you might think it's a bunch of cooks out to catch ghosts. I never thought that. I never thought that. I would never think of cooks like that. But these were PhD professors with specialties in biochemistry,
Starting point is 00:47:06 psychology, astrophysics and veterinary science. Bigelow was apparently careful to hire candidates who were skeptical. people who would look for rational explanations for phenomena rather than get immediately swept up in conspiracies. So one of the members of the scientific team was biochemist Cole McCleher, who, along with investigative journalist George Knapp, wrote a book called Hunt for the Skinwalker about the ranch and the findings that happened there during Nids' research. But he wrote it in blood on the walls.
Starting point is 00:47:36 It's my book. It's my masterpiece. I don't know why he's British, but... Write it down, it's there, write it down. Take your time with it, right it down. I'm going to start again. It's a new comedy character. It's insane, man.
Starting point is 00:47:52 It's had a lot of spooky stuff in it. A lot of spooky stuff in it. Got up the apples and pears, love. You want to find my book? Up there, love. He's fully insane. He's fully insane. It's a famous Utah accent.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Is that George Knapp? No, that's probably Colin Keller heard. George Knapp, he had an interesting career. Knapp with a Knapp and a double P. He broke the story on Bob Lazar in 1989, who claimed to have worked on UFOs at Area 51. And so George Knapp's like a, he's a well-known journalist, but writes a lot about these sorts of conspiracy theories, UFOs, etc.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Scary stuff. Spooky stuff. Anyway, so Nids of Purchase of Ranch. and Terry Sherman apparently offered to stay on as a ranch manager because he didn't really necessarily believe in the extraterrestrial side of things. He suspected that the phenomena happening around his ranch was more to do with secret military operations. So he was interested in sticking around and seeing what Nids were able to find out.
Starting point is 00:48:55 And they're all a bunch of scientists and he actually knows ranch stuff. So they're like, yeah, sure, you can stick around. That'd be helpful. Who's sticking around? Terry. Terry. Previous owner. What?
Starting point is 00:49:04 I don't understand what Terry's sitting around. I thought you were desperate to get out, Terry. His family definitely were. Yeah. And I mean, he's not having a great time. Yeah. But at least now he can leave. And now he's got mates.
Starting point is 00:49:14 He's just coming during the day probably as well. And he wants closure. He wants answers. He wants to know what the F is going on. Yeah. These blue meanies are up my ass. They keep talking at me. They keep talking at me.
Starting point is 00:49:24 They keep talking to send them mean and stuff. Yeah, yeah. So he's like, he's over at that point. And also, I want to say as well, I couldn't find heaps of resources about these sorts of early years or like, because there's a few different like documentaries and TV shows about this, the ranch now. So a lot of this early stuff
Starting point is 00:49:43 has all come from one particular podcast and, like, YouTuber, bedtime stories, but they're not, they're not bedtime stories because they're all spooky. Oh, God, I won't be watching them before I bet it. That's confusing. So I meant to shout that out before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:55 But a lot of this has come from there because it was really hard to find info. We've done such a good job. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. That is what I was fishing for. Yeah, he's done such a good job. But in saying that, I'm saying somebody else
Starting point is 00:50:07 did the work. But you're still doing such a good job reading out that work. So the first thing the group of scientists did when they set up the ranch was to run a variety of tests because the phenomena described was bizarre and also really varied. And they suspected that there was likely environmental and psychological factors to consider. So my go-toes with anything like this are, number one, poisoning. Is there something in the water or the soil or a plant? Something that's like causing some kind of hallucination. Yes. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Or is it one of those sort of mass hysteria type situations? Yes. Which also, I never fully understand how they happen, but it's a big psychological thing. Yeah, yeah. Those are the things that I always think. Any other theories? My go-to is always definitely aliens. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Yeah, always. Always aliens. Okay, yep. Bs is my thing. Bees is definitely a factor. There's probably bees there. Yep. And if there are bees there,
Starting point is 00:51:07 what have the bees done there? What are the bees doing there? And why are they still here? They need to go. What have they seen? What have they seen and where are they going? Yes. That's what I think I always go there in my head.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Yep. That's the end of my story. We're turning the three of us. I think we've really got a few bases covered here. I think so. Just paranoid about bees all the time. The big ones. The scientists considered these possibilities.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Well, the two I mentioned, I don't think they. I didn't go into the bees that much. Aliens is going to come up for sure. But less so about the bees. And maybe that's where they've gone wrong. They don't want to talk about the bees. Well, the bees are bloody controlling them. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Big B. Then they're mind. Big B. Good luck, man. Pull the other one. Don't even know what that means. Pull the other one. Well, you also wondered if there was areas of intense electromagnetic fields
Starting point is 00:52:03 or ultra-low frequencies like infrasound. fault lines that cause tectonic or seismic stress can also be thought to cause light anomalies and visual hallucinations. Is that what it was? They ran a whole bunch of tests. Tests found very little. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Aside from a few strange lights in the sky, the remainder of 1996 was pretty uneventful and the Nid's investigators were left feeling pretty doubtful about some of the other stories reported by the Sherman family. They're like, this is kind of bullshit. Yeah. I'm seeing some spooky lights, sure. But that's it.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I've seen a plane at the end of my bed, Tess, but that's about it. Yeah, I mean, come on, but that's just Tuesday. Yeah, okay? Tuesday's a plane watches me sleep. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, that's fine. Don't know why you going on about it? Yeah, come on, Ted.
Starting point is 00:52:49 He's actually quite nice. I feel comforted. I do. He stops talking when the lights go off, it's fine. It's fine. Sometimes that I can't sleep, he rocks the bed a little bit like I'm a little baby. Like I'm a little baby. And I actually find that quite soothing.
Starting point is 00:53:03 It's actually quite nice. In the way of called him blue meanings, I found them to be quite delightful. I found when I just opened up and was honest with them, we were able to have a beautiful discourse. I call them the blue friendlies now. I call them by their names. Jeff and Tom. How about that?
Starting point is 00:53:21 How about that? You ever thought about that? No, you only ever think about yourself. You only ever think blue meanings. You never think blue jeff. Got feelings. So not much is happening at the end of 96. And they're like, huh.
Starting point is 00:53:33 But all that would change in the coming year. Oh, wow. No. In March of 97, Terry and his wife Gwen were out in the pasture, tagging some of the cattle. She did not like to go back to the ranch, but he had cattle there still. And scientists had cattle there kind of as bait in a lot of ways, which is pretty fucked. Right. And they're like painting targets on them.
Starting point is 00:53:54 They're out tagging them. Targets? Yeah, you're right. And they tagged one calf and then walked over the other side of the field to tag the rest of them. And while they continued to tag cattle, one of the dogs they had with them started to growl and they looked over to where the dog was looking and saw the mother cow of the first calf sort of stumbling around clearly in distress. Drunk.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And a little content warning here for anyone sensitive to animals. So they ran over and they found the calf dead. Its entire abdominal cavity missing. Organs gone. All that was left was its head, legs and spine. Oh. Parts of its ribs. Weirdly, there was no blood on the ground and the ear they'd just tagged had also been removed.
Starting point is 00:54:36 But it looked like it had been cut with a sharp object. Like it had been done in a very precise way. No blood around. So really weird. Dexter vibes. Yeah. Something. Could be Dexter.
Starting point is 00:54:51 We don't know. How could something remove 60 pounds of animal in broad daylight, in full view of where Terry and Gwen were, and no one saw anything? Like WTF. Yeah, that's what the flip. Oh, okay. That's not another organisation.
Starting point is 00:55:05 No, no, no. I was looking into the other podcast with Mike Marin. That's right. Another plug. So that doesn't make any sense, does it? That's weird. And they were right there and they didn't hear anything that didn't hear. No, they were on the side of like a paddock, but they could still see.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Yeah. And I'm sure you'd hear like a cow being ripped to shred. Oh, yeah, you would think so. And then the stumbling mother, was that just concerned? Or she injured too? I think so, yeah. A few days later at 11 p.m. one night, the dog started howling at something on the far side of the pasture. and Terry and some of the Nids team got in a four-wheel drive
Starting point is 00:55:37 and headed out in the pasture to see if they could spot anything. They had a big spotlight on top of the car, and as the light moved over a tree line, they saw two big yellow lights, and then they realised they were eyes reflecting back at them. Big yellow eyes. That's scary. They stopped the car.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Terry reached through his rifle. He kind of used the car door to steady the rifle. Shoot from the hip. So he could take aim. His hip on the windowsill. What he's hip on the windowsill? Window sill of a car. Windessel.
Starting point is 00:56:04 He moves in mysterious ways, Terry. He shot himself in the jaw. And so through the scope on the gun, he could see a large creature sitting at the top of one of the trees. He took a shot and a thud was heard as the creature fell to the ground. They all heard a thud. They're like, you got him. So they drive over, I mean, they're not that far away. They drive over, no sign of the animal or anything nearby.
Starting point is 00:56:29 They spread out to search. This is in the middle of the night. Don't spread out. Never spread out. And Terry was heard yelling, I see him before two more shots rang out. Terry described the creature as a huge dog but on two legs. Standy-uppy dog. Stand-uppy dog, thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Yeah, that's what they called. I saw that written down. I didn't know how to pronounce it. Stand-upy. Stand-upy. Thank you. They searched in the darkness for hours, but all they found were two large footprints, about 14 inches long with large claw marks.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Yeah, that'd have been the Sandy-upy dog for sure. Huge. Never found anything. On April 2nd, Terry and Gwen noticed their four prized Angus Bulls had disappeared from the enclosure that they had just seen them in less than an hour before. These are like really, like their prize, they're worth a lot of money. That's a few grand sitting right there. Everyone knows bulls, they can't travel any distance in an hour. But they're like locked up in an enclosure.
Starting point is 00:57:25 They move like five centimetres an hour. So unless they've moved less than five centimeters, something is fucked with these balls. Is that true? I'm looking at the face of a life. that's true. I believe that's true. I can look that up. Especially when they're locked up, it is hard for them to move long distances. That's true. So they drove past to do something. They came back. Bulls are gone. So they get out of the car. They're running over and Terry's looking around. And he found all four
Starting point is 00:57:49 bulls crammed into an old trailer that was stored next to the corral the bulls were in. They're not meant to be there. He said they seemed to be in some kind of a trance. They were able to get the bulls out of the trailer and back into their enclosure. But the scientists couldn't figure out what had happened. One single bull wouldn't be happy about being confined to a small space, let alone all four of them squeezing in together, and they were all kind of, yeah, in a bit of a trance. And more importantly, the only entrance to the trailer from the corral was a door that was wired shut.
Starting point is 00:58:20 So how the fuck did they get in there? Oh, that's interesting. How many scientists of the blade take to find a few bulls? It's the start of a joke. I don't have the ending yet. That's just the start of a joke. There's something there, though. You can easily work on that.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Like, it's already funny. It's already funny. It's got a good premise. Totally. So I'll just come back later. Yeah. I'll chop it up. Yep.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Chop it up. Come back. I'll work on that later. Perfect. I'll send it to you later. Oh yeah. That'd be great. Chop it in.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Thank you. I just have like a completely different sounding audio file. It's really bad. Like I'm kind of underwater. It's like, what do it in the pool? I did it in the pool. I thought of it in the pool. Thought of it in the pool.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I'll send it on. You know how it is. I do my best sinking in the pool. Anyway. People are feeling pretty spooked now. Yeah, I'm terrified a little bit. Many other weird and unexplainable occurrences happened to the investigators working at the ranch. Researchers reported a sudden strong musk smell.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Elon. He's around. What's he smell like? He smells like a musk stick. Yeah, okay. Which he invented, if you didn't know how he made all his money through musk sticks. I don't know why you don't let me do a report. I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I'll do it on Elon Musk. He invented musk sticks. It's just a one sentence report, but I've got it. It's done. It's very interesting. Very good. Yeah, yeah. We're still talking about it now.
Starting point is 00:59:40 So they've just smelled a smell and gone, this is suspicious. Well, it's sudden. A smell sudden. You're out in the field doing some work and all of a sudden you have an own. Hang on a bit. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Hey, woo, woo, you got a sudden, strong musk smell accompanied by a feeling that something is watching you. Oh, okay. That bloody plane. Like, like. Hair on the back of your neck standing up. You got full body chills. You get the chilly willies. You're feeling a bit like, what the fuck is going on here?
Starting point is 01:00:10 And the strong musk smell, and you're not spooked? You're not spooked? You're not spooked? You're kidding yourself, mate. Yeah, you're just happy about the chilly willie, am I right? Is this thing on? Turn his off, turn his off. I'd be happy to smell the mask off because I found musk a soothing smell.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Oh, okay. You have a bath? You put lots of musk sticks in it. I've seen you have a bath. That's why his partner won't let me hear. Yeah, because you put too many musks. I'm always sitting with him in the bath going, why are you talking to her?
Starting point is 01:00:35 We don't need her. She has G2G. That's got to go. She's got to go. She has G2G, brother. Sammy trying to break up a marriage. It should just be us. That's what we always want.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I'm like, lady with best. You've changed. Anyway, strong musk, smell, something's watching them. That is scary. And that's where the scientist, because I started to notice a small pattern. It was always. Terry. I agree. That had the stuff happening to him.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah. I've seen, it's over here. Yeah. It's way over there. They weren't here an hour ago. It's like, well, where was everyone else Terry? Yeah, no. But stuff does happen to the science too.
Starting point is 01:01:13 So they're feeling a bit, they're smelling the smells, they're feeling the weird feeling. This one creeped me out a bit. There's a couple here that are a bit spooky. One of the Nid's researchers experienced a strange phenomena one night while looking out over the field with night vision goggles. He saw something huge and black just behind the tree line and felt as though that thing was taking control of his mind. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:01:35 He said to his colleague next to him, it's got me. It says they're watching us. Oh my. That's scary. That's scary. The unidentified object moved away and the ordeal was over, but it certainly seemed to shake that research for quite some time. This is the one that really got me.
Starting point is 01:01:50 In the middle of the night, another time, two scientists were up on a ridge, looking down towards the homestead when one saw a bright light again through his night vision goggles. The other one didn't have night vision goggles. He could see the light, but it just sort of looked like a light. But to the guy with the night vision goggles, it was getting bigger. It seemed really, really bright. And it looked actually more like it wasn't a light, but in fact, a tunnel.
Starting point is 01:02:15 And he could see through to the other side. A portal again. A portal, if you will. He watched as a figure crawled out of the tunnel and then ran across the field. Like, so much faster than a human could. Like, it was so fast. You haven't seen me run. That's true.
Starting point is 01:02:31 So much faster than a regular person, unlike Sammy, who's incredibly quick. Yeah. Thank you so much. And it sort of ran up the ridge and they both heard footsteps kind of near them. It sort of ran past them and they both smelt a strong musk smell. Elon's back. So the one who's not seeing through the portal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Is still hearing footsteps, run past them and smelling Musk. And smelling his mate who's just shed himself. Yeah, Musk is what they're. Absolutely terrible. It's shit. It's shit. You smell on that? And the other guy's like, no?
Starting point is 01:03:05 Are you? Absolutely not. Whoever smelled it does it? Definitely. Got him. Got him a beauty. Oh, oh, purple. Oh, what's that?
Starting point is 01:03:15 Someone must have dropped their guts over there. Not me. Not me. Definitely not I. Definitely not. I wouldn't help do that. Can't even fart. That is, if you see someone like coming out of a tunnel and then running, that's, I don't like that.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I don't like that one. And then you, like, hear it near you. Oh, yuck, and I don't like that at all. No, I don't like that one bit. That's not a fun thing to experience. And it would ruin Musk sticks for life. Oh, absolutely. And they're a delightful treat.
Starting point is 01:03:38 I love them. You can be having a bath bomb with them again. No way. You'd have to move on to something else. You'd have to choose a new favourite. Pope-P-R-R-A. Probably. Quite nice.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Oh, I don't like Pop-A-Rae. Nah. Leverna? Lavender? No. Vanilla. Yeah. If you'd said Ilang-I-L-L-L-L-A-N-G.
Starting point is 01:03:56 That's my favourite. What is that? It's spelled like Y-L-A-N-G, and I only learned recently. I've always been like, Y-L-L-L-L-L-A-N, but I think it's like E-Lang. Anyway. You-R-R-E-R-R-E-Rang. E-L-L-L-Lang. By mid-1998, the odd activity on the property started to decline, and it did so for many years after.
Starting point is 01:04:22 So the team finally pulled the plug and left the property in 2004. They were there for a long time, though. And they're all paid for by this like eccentric millionaire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole property drained down the plug because they pulled it. Is there something there? No. So after Niz.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Siri, don't write that down. Siri, don't write that joke. So after Nids disbanded in 2004, they maintained ownership of the property until 2016. Oh. The new owner was an anonymous buyer. And it wasn't until four years later in 2020 that it was revealed that the ranch had been bought by a Utah real estate mogul named Brandon Fugel. When he announced he was the owner, he also announced that the history channel would be recording a reality TV show on the property titled The Secret.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Keeping up with the Kardashians. And you can look that up. That's online. If they did a spooky season, that would be so, I'd watch their whole family going to a spooky ranch. That's so fun. That is a fun way to mix it up after so many years. I'm freaking out. Courtney! Corny! Oh my God! Look at these eyes! And they're still doing the talking heads that are really bright colors.
Starting point is 01:05:24 A plane behind all of them all the time. watching. When I saw those eyes, I could not believe it. Miao. Miao. Unfortunately, the show was called The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. The show has four seasons now. Wow. Incredible. I think it's probably part of the reason a few people suggested this topic. And this is from Brian Higgins on Utah.com. I really like Brian. My favorite websites. Brian's writing is quite funny. The show portrays Fugel's attempts to bring scientific approaches to the surrounding the ranch, surrounded by a team of experts in a range of scientific disciplines, as well as a guy named Dragon, Fugle Six answers to the questions that he and countless
Starting point is 01:06:06 others have asked over the years. If it sounds a lot like Nids, that's because it is. Reality TV just wasn't as popular in 1996. So it's essentially like people coming in doing very similar stuff, but in front of cameras this time. He goes on to say, like so many investigators before them, the current occupants of Skinwalker Ranch have found more questions than answers. Why does electronic equipment seem to malfunction on the ranch? Why have so many occupants reported unexplained illnesses? Why does the indescribable feeling of strangeness they feel in the ranch seem to follow them home? Why is there a grown man named Dragon?
Starting point is 01:06:41 Did he give himself that nickname? Does he make his friends call him Dragon all the time? The search for answers continues. I love that. I love Brian. Yeah, Brian's a bit obsessed with Dragon and I love it. I love that. And I have seen, I'm sorry if you're a big fan of the,
Starting point is 01:06:56 show, I was not able to find or access much of it. I could get to like, I think I could see bits of like the most recent season or maybe season two or three or something. I wasn't able to watch it from the start. Dragon, I believe, is like on the security team. Great. But even the bits that I saw, it was just had a lot of like tense music under nothing happening.
Starting point is 01:07:17 And I was like, I can't. Yeah, it's too much. Not that it was spooky. I was just like, you are trying too hard to make it. Make it spooky. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:25 But people. People love the show. Yeah, of course. So, look, theories. There's a few of them. What are you looking up, Dave? I'm sorry, I'm just looking up the Secret of Skin Walker Ranch and they've been launching a new show called Beyond Skin Walker Ranch
Starting point is 01:07:41 where experts join Eric, Travis, Dragon and Brandon to investigate other mysterious ranches across the world. Wow. See if the strange phenomena is really confined to them. So obviously the show's doing well. Yeah, that's great. I absolutely love it. Oh, I watch a dragon, my hero?
Starting point is 01:07:57 Yeah. Absolute hero. It's a little bit funny. There's a guy on it named Travis who has like that classic really southern accent. And it's, and he's like got PhDs in like astrophysics and biochemistry and all sorts of stuff. But it reminds me of, do you remember Joe Schaefer, a comedian? Yeah. And he used to do a bit because he has a bit of a southern drawl.
Starting point is 01:08:23 And he used to do a bit of a bit of. about how he has the kind of accent where, like, you don't hear lawyers with that sort of accent. It's more like, Your Honor, I'll be represented myself. And it was just very, it always made me think of that. And it's funny hearing this guy talking in this, like, really classic Southern accent, but about really stuff that I cannot even vaguely comprehend. It was just funny. I'm a lawyer.
Starting point is 01:08:48 That sort of stuff. That sort of stuff. That's good shit. So anyway, some skeptics are quick to point fingers at the Sherman family, accusing them of making stuff up as a way to get rid of their property in a quick sale because they were close to bankruptcy. But neighbours reported similar odd phenomena on their properties and NIDS investigators experienced a lot of the same things as the Sherman's reports. Plus, as we mentioned at the very start, the general area had hundreds of years of history of
Starting point is 01:09:14 unusual phenomena. Yeah. So it's unlikely that, I mean, how could they be making up something that has been reported for hundreds of years? Yes. Yeah. And is that much of a real estate ploy? to sell a ranch because it's terrifying. I don't want to live here. Do you want to live here? Do you want to live here? Come live in this horrifying place. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Or they were saying that like they were making it up for like potential money to sell their story kind of thing. Oh, okay. Right. Yeah. But yeah, it's like there's a history of it. Other people that live in the area have had very similar things happening on their property. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Unlikely. And Dragon would see right through you. And Dragon would see right through you. So not only that, but physical evidence was often. left behind like footprints, remains of animals and detectable changes in environment picked up by equipment, like magnetic fields, for example. So there's evidence left behind. So it's not just them being like, oh, I saw something.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Yeah, yeah. I did. Yeah, right. From utah.com again, my friend Brian. Since the 1950s, there have been hundreds of reports of UFOs and unexplained phenomena in the Uinter Basin and not just at Skinwalker. Neighbors of the ranch report seeing various types of bright lights in the sky. often appearing as a shape that looks like a doorway or portal.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Others report giant flying objects. Cattle mutilations are common too. Some neighbours have reported seeing cows that appear to have been struck by lightning with no sign of scorched earth to be found. One group shared a story of trying to spot UFOs one night only to return to find that their car had been moved without a trace of tyre tracks in the desert sand. So naturally, there are plenty of theories as to what has happened on the ranch.
Starting point is 01:10:53 And again, my friend Brian. Summs up a few theories. Theory number one, people are lying to get money. Subscribers to this theory were likely the same people who raised their hand at the end of class and reminded the teacher that they had homeworked you. It's not a fun theory at all, and so it shouldn't even be considered. I love bride. Theory number two, extraterrestrial visitors, Dave, this is sort of the camp that you were sitting again.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Absolutely thing is aliens. So the bees one's going to be number three. Yeah, they're working through them. From least likely to most likely, bees at one. Unsurprisingly, this is one of the most. popular theories about the anomalies at Skinwalker. It would certainly explain a lot of things like the bright lights, flying objects, strange voices, electrical disturbances, and cattle mutilated with scientific precision.
Starting point is 01:11:37 But why would our flying friends be so secretive? Maybe they're filming a docu-series of their own. Brian. Who's the alien dragon? You can't. There's no equivalent. There's no equivalent. Theory number three, bees.
Starting point is 01:11:54 That's not true. It's interdimensional visitors. That's what's going to say. It's just like theory number two, but with a sort of Marvel cinematic universe twist. Rather than believing that UFOs arrive from another planet, subscribers to this theory believe that they arrive from a parallel dimension or universe. Sounds crazy, but this would certainly explain why the lights in the sky sometimes appear to look like portals. And any kind of interdimensional gateway would be bound to cause anomalies nearby, right?
Starting point is 01:12:20 Right. Right, right. And then theory number four is geophysical processes causing the brain to hallucinate. He says, hold on to your brain protecting tinfoil hats for this one, because it's a doozy. Developed by neuroscientist Michael Persinger, this theory posits that geophysical forces like tectonic shifts, seismic activity, geomagnetic fields, and others may affect the part of the brain involved with creating hallucinations. Under this reasoning, everything people experience the Skinwalker is a result of increased seismic activity in the area. So those shapeshifters, UFOs and portals are all just a result of the witness's brain going haywire.
Starting point is 01:13:01 So there go, that's another theory. It's also probably worth noting, this is back to me, not Brian, and I miss him every day. It's probably worth noting as well that while NIDS disbanded in 2004, it was quickly replaced by the Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. Say that again, please. Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. Bass. Bass. Two ways, two S's.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Which was more secretive and was working towards having government sponsor. In 2007, the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, or ATIP, was a secret investigatory effort. Somewhere in there I got most parts of the word. So I won't try again. You're confident about it in the end. I like that. It was an effort funded by the United States Defense Department to study unidentified flying objects primarily on Skinwalker Ranch.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Oh, wow. So the government's getting involved. Yeah, of course they are. From Legends of America.com. In the next several years, $22 million was spent on the program, which investigated reports of unidentified flying objects and was run by a military intelligence official,
Starting point is 01:14:11 whose name was Luis Elizondo, from the Pentagon. The shadowy program was largely funded at the request of Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat, who was the Senate Majority Leader at the time, and who has long been interested in space phenomena. He was also a long-time friend of Robert Bigelow.
Starting point is 01:14:28 However, this information was not publicly known until it was released by the New York Times in 2017. When the story broke, a Department of Defense official confirmed at the government-funded program and Senator Harry Reid admitted his complicit-complicit-plice. Still now that. Thank you so much. So they admitted that that existed.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Wow. It was a secret investigation, but they did admit it. Today, parts of the study remain classified. Wow. And the Department of Defense has never officially acknowledged the program's existence, but it does admit that the program was shut down in 2012. That's interesting. So how do you shut something down that never existed?
Starting point is 01:15:05 Well, with a reality TV show, with four seasons. Holy shit, yeah. It's the only way to do it. So it may be up to the crew of the Secret of the Skinwalker Ranch to solve this one. The fourth season just aired a couple of months ago in August of 2023. So maybe in future seasons, they'll be able to dead. Definitely tell us what the fuck is up with Skinwalker Ranch. If anyone's going to find it, Dragon.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Dragon will absolutely find it. He'll sniff it out. Yeah. But for now, it remains a mystery. It's a mystery episode. It's a mystery episode. It's a mystery episode. It's a mystery episode.
Starting point is 01:15:36 That was fun. I waited to the last possible sentence to tell you it's a mystery episode. Great work. Worthy of Hercule Paro. Yeah, absolutely. Who's one of those favorites? Isn't that wild? That's an amazing.
Starting point is 01:15:47 That's an amazing. That's an amazing. That's an amazing. That's an amazing. That's an amazing. Amazing. Couldn't say it better myself. But I think if you had the opportunity, would you go there?
Starting point is 01:15:55 Because I wouldn't. No. Even though I'm suspicious and I'm like, I don't know if I actually haven't. I still don't want to go there. I don't want to go there. No. You can be a skeptic and not want to put yourself through that. It sounds like it's quite a terrifying.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I don't want to see a mutilated cow. No, I don't want to see that. No matter who's doing it. Someone or something's doing it. I don't want to see that. I can spook myself like just being alone in my apartment in the city. Yes. Hearing a noise.
Starting point is 01:16:19 you're like, what was that? Yeah. And I'm alone and I'm like, oh my God. You know that's too spooky for me. Sometimes. Sometimes it's, sometimes.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Oh my God. Terrified me just then. So you can spook easily. I also jump around corners and spook my dog. That's fun. He loves it. He does love it. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:16:35 that is fun. That's a fun thing to do. We're fun. You're a fun mum. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. That's such a cool. It's such a cool story, though.
Starting point is 01:16:42 But having looked into a theory that you're like, this is my favorite, Jess. Oh, maybe. I mean, I tend to, I didn't even really go into much of like, there are sort of theories that it's military testing or stuff like that. Possibly, but I don't know, I tend to be a bit skeptical about stuff like that, but that's exactly what they want you to think. Yeah, absolutely. They want to think that it never existed and they shut it down. And I don't want to get too far into like conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:17:12 I don't think I care enough about anything to get really deep in conspiracy theories about it. Yeah. I think something weird's happening there. Absolutely. And it spent so much money on it. as well. That's the bizarre thing and there's a reality TV show four seasons. And that like so many people like obviously that old couple who had it for 60 years, weird stuff happened to them. The Sherman's had a lot of weird stuff happening. Yeah. And then a bunch of
Starting point is 01:17:34 skeptics and scientists went in and experienced a bunch of weird shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's odd. Yeah. And different stuff. Like obviously like they're not going to lie and say like this happened because they want to keep a legend alive. Like that's that that that must be true. Everything online is true. That's what I want to say. I agree. Everything online is true. Have you heard the Babbers? Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. I'm open to that. You don't sound convinced, but you're open to it. Yeah. I haven't been online, but I love the idea of it. He's not allowed. Not allowed online? Got a safe search on all the time. The safer search is no search. That's actually true. That's actually true. But yeah, that's my report on Skin Walker Ranch. God, I love that.
Starting point is 01:18:12 I loved it. I loved it. You did such a good job reading it as well. Thanks. Do you feel good about it? I felt okay. Do you are? You need to be feeling a lot more confident about it because you have fun with my friends. God, and that's all you can have. That's the best review. You really read that well. That's like when someone sees your hour long stand-up show and says, well done remembering all that.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Yeah. You looked like you had fun up there. How do you do it? How do you do that? I did have somebody said that at the end of my festival show. Like, I don't know how you remember it all. But she and I did like drama together in high school for three years where we remembered long plays and tired of plays.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Did she though? Did she improv? She was great of improv. She improv shakespeare all the time. I was like, what do you mean? Also, I wrote it. Yeah, yeah, of course I remember it. And also, I probably don't say it exactly the same every night.
Starting point is 01:18:58 I'm fucking stuff up. And you love improv. I love improv. I do. Let's try some now. Okay. You give us a scenario. Snail factory.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Okay. Oh, wait, are we snails or are we making snails? Unless the setting and the characters are workers at the snail factory. Okay. And that's the whole scenario. Okay. Oh, yeah, okay. Jess.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Okay. You're employed. Hey, Jess, I just wanted to talk to you about something. Yeah, what's up, Sam? These snails are going way too slowly. Oh, okay. Am I not meeting the KPI's? You're not meeting the KPI's, Jess.
Starting point is 01:19:33 And I think you... I'm going to cross my arms for this bit because it's kind of funny if I'm going into... It's quite interesting that you're not meeting KPI's and I wish you would. Gee, I wish you would. Okay. Is there any way I could do that? Maybe if you stop moving at a snail's pace. Okay, I'll try to go faster.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Space shop. Thank you for getting us. And insane. Thank you for getting us the fuck out of me. That was really good. Look, I felt good about that. I felt good about it. I got lost in the character and I felt really worried for my career.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Yeah, yeah, because I was coming down hard. I did. Yeah, I was coming down hard. I was like, I'm going to lose my job. How am I going to feed my kids? And I was that sort of manager that like, I love to be everybody's friend, but if I need to come down hard, I will because I need your respect at the end of the day. And I've respected you, but I feared you.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had that effect on people at snail factory. Wow. Wow. Thanks to getting us out of that, Dave, because I was like, I was lost. I was spiraling. I saw he starting to cry and I thought we're going to get around it. That was acting.
Starting point is 01:20:27 That was acting. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, look, that's brought us to the end of the report. Should we thank Sammy? Yes. Could you actually also, can I get some of that on my reel? No. Trust me, mate, it was not worth it.
Starting point is 01:20:39 We did not have your good side in that. I'll get you the footage. No worries. Thank you so much. You don't want it. You'll look at it. You'll look at it and you'll understand why I said you're all right. No, the manager is one of my favorite characters, so I love that.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Just let's have them on tape, finally. Okay. was the best night of your life. And I did that. I object. It just needs to be you and me day. He did do that. He did do that.
Starting point is 01:21:23 That was awful. Sorry about that. It was embarrassing. That's why the quiz was about a night. I'm all you need. Yeah. Because I'm all you need. I'm all you need.
Starting point is 01:21:30 I'm all you need. I'm all of Sammy, people can hear you every single week. Multiple times on the confessions feed. That is God damn correct. You do your confessions podcast. Jess and I have both been on many episodes. Many, many, many times. We love it.
Starting point is 01:21:42 God, you love it. Because you're both wonderful on it. I'll tell you that much. And Matt's on it sometimes too. Absolutely. You find Ficked Confessions on Reddit.com. Wonderful website called Reddit.com. I find wonderful confessions every single week,
Starting point is 01:21:54 and I read them for amazing guests to pick apart. So it's Confessions, the podcast, on all the social medias, and it's just called Confessions. And also every second week, there is another one called Am I the Asshole, which is on the same feed, but it's just I really wanted to double my workload
Starting point is 01:22:09 on Reddit finding things. And so I went, how I'm going to find, Am I the Asshole? Yeah. And you can identify. And people are usually on at the arsehole.
Starting point is 01:22:17 That is something I picked up over the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll stop you right there. Spoiler much. It's rare when you go, huh, I don't think you're the asshole this time. That's right.
Starting point is 01:22:26 It's not often that someone's asking, am I the asshole on Reddit? And they're not. Yeah. I think you know that you are and that's why you're writing on Reddit. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so on all the social connections.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Check out, confessions. One of the great pods. Hundreds of fendences. For people to devour if they haven't yet discovered the fantasy. Devow them, goodness. Mutilated it like a cow. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Beautifully put. Too soon. Too soon. I'm so sorry. Sammy P. Thanks so much. Thank you so much. Thank you, Jessica. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Thank you, David. Thank you, AJ. Oh! Isn't that nice? That's nice. I like to thank AJ again. He deserves it. And that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show where we get to thank
Starting point is 01:23:05 some of our fantastic supporters, people who support us over at patreon.com. Slash. Do you go on pod. I mean, you can just go on there and just generally support Patreon. You can figure it out. Like, there's a head. It's on there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Sport everyone. Chuck everybody a buck. One buck. How many could there possibly be? Surely that'll cost you no more than $50,000 and a month. And that's just good karma. Yeah, exactly. Supporting the arts.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Think of yourself as a wealthy benefactor. Yeah, that's the dream, I think. Yeah. Too wealthy. So there's a couple of sections that we like to do here. I'm not usually in charge of saying this stuff. I'm in my head now. You take over.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Well, the first. part is the fact quote of question. I got shy. You got shy. I'll stop looking at you. This is the fact quote of question section and I believe, I believe, I may be wrong but I think it has a little jingle. That goes. They might go a little something. I like this. Fact quote or question ding! And she always remembers the sing and I always remember the ding. And basically people that have been, that support us on Patreon, there's a level of Sydney-Synberg deluxe memorial package, get to give us a fact, a quote, or a question, a brag, a suggestion. A recipe, a shout out, uh, anything.
Starting point is 01:24:25 It can be anything. Yeah. You know, these days it could be, uh, an agony aunt cry for help. I was about to say, a fact. And that's the first, that's the first option that I thought I was to give something new. Could be, oh my gosh, they could give us a fun, a fact. Is that something? And they get to, uh, give themselves a title.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah. And, um, do you want me to read them? I would love that. Okay. Well, our first one, This week comes from Isaac Keltenko. And Isaac's given themselves the title of Guy who overheard the guy telling the other guy
Starting point is 01:24:57 that he's walking there, that they're walking there. Ah. I'm walking here. I'm walking here. And is that the last, well, the same as your last one? I believe it might be. I'm just double-checking that I haven't got the same exact. In fact, we've got a question.
Starting point is 01:25:14 No, Isaac is going with the same title, which we love. important title and look uh it's nice to stick to a title some people mix it up some people stick with it exactly whatever you want to do this is your section yeah once you become a sir you don't say actually i'm going to be something different actually doctor yeah you know is there ever been a doctor sir we'll never know we'll never know uh this is a question uh from our guy who's over the other guy he's walking that they're walking there isaac has written in to say hey fellas what's poppin or in jess's case What's Boppin? Ooh.
Starting point is 01:25:49 That's enough lolly gagging around. Let's get straight to the point here. Love this. My dad recently told me that his favorite beer was Fosters. Yuck. Having never tried it before, I took him to the shops. We found a couple of cans and took them home to sippy sip right up. Lovely.
Starting point is 01:26:04 25.4 ounces later. FL? What are we talking about? I don't understand these units. Whatever. I look down at the green can. I notice it says, founded in Australia. So I put two and two together.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Australia plus beer equals fact quota question segment. Sure. I would like to know what each of your favourite alcoholic beverages are and which are your least favourite. Oh. And Isaac has answered the question. I can also answer for you. But let's hear Isaac's answer first.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Personally, I like a good old Guinness. Pina colada or old fashioned. I hope you guys are doing well and happy block. And to you, sir. Well, so one thing I'm a bit baffled by, And look, you know, Isaac is obviously a Patreon supporter and at a very generous level. So I don't want to criticise. But Fosters is like the stereotypical Australian beer.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Isaac wasn't familiar with Australia being, Fosters being the Aussie beer, even though we can't readily get it in Australia. Yeah, we don't, and we don't particularly like it. No, it's one of the things where, especially in the UK, you find it on tap at a lot of pubs. And people go, oh, you're Australian, you must love Fosters. But here, we're like, no, that's piss. It's not on tap anywhere that I've ever even been to. You can sometimes get it from a big retail like Dan Murphy's.
Starting point is 01:27:20 You get like a slab of 24 pack. But it's expensive because I think they have to re-import it. That's crazy. Even when you said Foster's on tap somewhere, I was like, I've never seen Foster's on tap. Yeah, I think in London and places like that I've seen it. So yeah, it's just interesting to me, it's like, oh, Fosters is Australian. Yeah, so that's great. It's like it's the stereotype one.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Yes, but we don't know. But we hate it. Isaac might be, I don't know, not in the UK. Yeah. Might be somewhere in Asia or the Caribbean. something where it's like maybe it's hard to get as well. And we all have little like little gaps in in the knowledge and stuff like that. You can miss things. I just thought now it really interesting. Yeah, but it is a yeah, famously Australian, but also we're always like, we don't really drink
Starting point is 01:27:57 that. Yeah. Favorite drinks. Favorite drink for me. David Borneke. Pina colada. I was like, I'm with you. You've got great choice. Can I just say, let's get a cocktail. What do you, what's mine, Dave? What do you reckon I like? Your favorite alcoholic drink. And it is tough because I'm not a huge drinker. No, when we go out, what do you drink? Oh, sorry, I might have stumped you a bit here. Is it a vodka raspberry? It probably would be vodka. I haven't had vodka raspberry in a long time. Makes me too excited. Okay, my favorite would be a margarita. Oh, of course, I should have known that. Yeah. You love a margarita drink. You love a margarita food. It's my favorite combo. Yes, damn, I should have known that. Mugs and mugs. I feel embarrassed.
Starting point is 01:28:38 My dream. You should, you should. But like I said, I'm not a huge drink. but also I probably would just have like a vodka lemonade or something. And I know people are like vodka soda, it's less calories. It tastes like ass. I don't like it. Give me my sugar water. Yeah. I want to feel bad tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Matt, I mean, obviously he's a passionate beer drinker. I know, but he would have a long list of his favorite beers. I don't know. We can't answer for the great man, but he's, I don't know what Matt's absolute favorite is. No, I don't know either actually. He doesn't mind a Guinness. I don't think he's his absolute favorite. No.
Starting point is 01:29:16 But he'll have that. And he often has like a dark stout, which I'm really not into. I was going to say a stout, yeah. I'm not into those. They're way too thick for me. Yeah. But Matt loves those. You wouldn't say no to a cocktail either.
Starting point is 01:29:28 No, that's right. Yeah. I would say that my favorite beer we are talking about is, um, I like lighter pale beers. Yep. Frutier stuff. I also, I had a, do you know, the beer Pacifico, the Mexican beer? Yep. Had one of those at a Mexican restaurant last week.
Starting point is 01:29:41 And it was. I don't know if it is actually different, but it came out, and it was the proper imported one where it was all in Spanish, and then they had to put an import label on it. And I don't know if it's just because it was cold, it was a hot day. Yeah. Or the lime they put in there. But it was heaven. Oh, yeah, great. Absolutely loved it.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Could have been a bunch of factors there, but oh, so good. Yeah, because I've always loved a Pacifica, but I don't know I've ever had the proper import before. So there you go. I like a cider, an apple cider or a pear. I know you love cider. That's what we get you. I do like cider or a ginger beer. The thing is I had to move away from ciders and wines and stuff
Starting point is 01:30:15 because the sulfates trigger migraines. So I kind of had to pull away from that a lot. So that's why I don't drink as much anymore because I just sort of got out of the habit or got out of the practice, I guess. Yes, out of practice. But don't worry, we'll get her back. We'll bloody get her back.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Don't you worry about that. Thanks, Isaac. Great question. Great question. Next fact of quite a question that comes from Sky, question mark, dollar sign, ampersand, at symbol number four percentage sign. That's incredibly offensive. How dare you?
Starting point is 01:30:51 Title Sky is giving themselves is the best bone bowler, Billy Johnson. The best bone bowler. Okay. The best bone bowler, Billy Johnson. I have no follow-up questions. Yeah, does that a reference to something? I said I have no follow-up questions. Would I do?
Starting point is 01:31:06 Okay. Well, I don't want to hear the answer. Okay. La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La Okay, I've got no answer for you Okay Here we go Oh okay
Starting point is 01:31:16 I should have read ahead But this is proving that we never read ahead We never read ahead It's a quote from Sky who says Don't ask about the title It means nothing Just a string of consciousness I see
Starting point is 01:31:27 Well I'm glad we figured that I've glad you googled that And now you look insane To your computer And I'm afraid We're gonna disappoint Sky here Because it says This is a Bill Bryson quote, so Matt has an excuse to talk about him and Jess has to let him.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Here it goes. I don't have to do anything. Well, I've got to read on, even though I don't like Bill Bryson. This is a quote from Bill Bryson. Roads get wider and busier and less friendly to pedestrians. And all of the development based around cars, like big sprawling shopping malls. Everything seems to be designed for the benefit of the automobile and not the benefit of the human being. Bill Bryson.
Starting point is 01:32:03 That's nice. Well said, Bill. Thanks, Bill. Really gives you something to think about it. But who's behind the car. Bill, I'm behind the cars and I'm a human being. I feel a bit triggered by that. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Because I got hit by a car. Oh, sorry, yes, absolutely. And I was not behind that car. Well, we don't know that. We don't know if that's true. Check my dash cam. I've asked for a dash cam for Christmas. My wife thinks I'm crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:31 No, you just... She's like, that's a waste of a Christmas present. You're just in your 30s. I know, I was like, because she goes, no, what else do you want? I'm like, I don't need anything. No. I don't need anything.
Starting point is 01:32:39 I don't need a video game. If I want that, I'll buy it. Yeah, that's the thing, but I would never, this is what I feel like, I would never buy a dash cam. But I think the idea of them are kind of cool. Yeah, I think so too. They're useful, practical, but I'd never buy one. So I think it's a perfect gift.
Starting point is 01:32:52 It's a beautiful gift, something I wouldn't buy myself. Exactly. I don't need socks and jocks. I buy them myself. What do you get the person who's got everything? Sox and jocks. A dash cam. Next up, we have Broderick Henry.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Oh! The title is, the apparent daddy warbucks. Okay. Why do I smell wet dog? And it is a fact coming from Daddy Warbox. Okay. Hello, my lads and Little Skipper. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Hello. I've been listening to your pod for about eight years now and loving every moment of it. Wow. Every moment? Broderick, I haven't loved every moment. I was a Patreon subscriber in the past for a bit, but stopped when money was a bit tight. Fair enough. Completely fine by us.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Anyone listening if you are on the Patreon and you feel the pinch, which we know you do, feel free to jump off at any time. We totally, we totally understand. Jump down if you want to, if that's more comfortable. You've got to feed yourself before you feed us. 100%. Don't all jump off though for the lovely, not all suddenly. Not all suddenly, you know.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Maybe a gentle decline would be better for us in terms of financial planning. We have to eat also. But yeah, don't all jump at once. But if you need to, we understand and we love you still. Thanks so much. listening to the recent block app and being told the Christmas cards were coming up soon again I decided to go and get
Starting point is 01:34:12 Ask Prod level to get a new cart Imagine my surprise when I learned I've been on the Dreamboat Cooper level for the past three years And I don't always listen to the end of the pod Even though it's everyone's favourite So I don't know if my name was ever called In the shout-outs slash triptych club
Starting point is 01:34:26 So here I am Spending an extra $15 to hear my name Hopefully mispronounced So here we are Take my money And since I'm already here I guess I'll stay to make sure y'all are still fed properly. I'm just talking about feeding.
Starting point is 01:34:40 But you could have also just sent us a message and asked if we've missed your shoutout. I'll look it up for you right now. Broderick. Broderick. Am I, Broderick Henry? In Triptitch? I think, no, just the shoutout. Oh, just a shout out.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Was it just a shout out? I said three years. Hang on, let's have a look then. I didn't need to do this right now. We've got to check out shoutouts and the tripditch. I'll look that up as. well because oh not in shoutouts unless i'm spelling wrong see the problem is no we're not sure it is because you just get to fill out a form to be in this section is that then the same name
Starting point is 01:35:17 you use on patreon broderick yeah that's true yeah that's true we may not know broderick send us a message and and we'll look into that for you let us know what your name is on patreon if it's different because i can't find you just on that name if your name's different or send us your email address or something Messages on Patreon, and we'll look that up for you. Messages, Broderick, Broderick, but this is us saying your name multiple times. Broderick Henry. Broderick, Broderick. How else could we say that?
Starting point is 01:35:44 Broderick Henry, the apparent Daddy Waldox. Oh, maybe it is Broderick. Thanks, Broderick. Surely it's not Broderick. Well, we're about to find out. Send us a message. Thanks so much. And finally, for this section of the show, we'd like to thank Evan from San Jose.
Starting point is 01:36:00 The title is, Assistant Vice President of the Alternate Backup Dugan one fan club. Silicon Valley chapter. Perfect. Thank you. An important chapter. The alternate backup duke on fan club. Thank you so much, Evan.
Starting point is 01:36:14 And we've got a fact from Evan, which says, in a recent episode, you referenced the Pinkerton's detective agency, or as a detective agency. I just wanted to point out the fact that they were primarily thugs and strike breakers for robber barons of the industrial revolution, though I'm mostly hired by rich capitalists to beat and murder their own workers. Jesus Christ. They did so in Butte, Montana in the 19thines, and in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in the 1892, Homestead riots, and in many other places. I got to say, I don't remember mentioning the Pinkertons.
Starting point is 01:36:49 It's very vague. No, I remember we said it pretty recently. I can't remember why. But it's also on my mind because I recently just did on bookcheats, the Dashil Hammett novel, The Maltese Falcon. Okay. You can check out with Alexei Tolioplas and Michelle Brazier. And I, and he's like the father of. hard-boiled detective writing and was once a Pinkerton detective himself.
Starting point is 01:37:09 There you go. Okay. So that's definitely on my mind. That's really interesting, Evan. Thank you for... So they must have done some detective. That's like a fact, but also a bit of a fact check. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Did you sign up? This looks like it's Evan's first fact-quoted question. Wow. We've got two people this week signing up, Broderick, to say hello, and Evan to tell us about the Pinkton. And look, you know, a lot of people will just tweet at us to correct us on things. But we could ignore that. And so in this case, we could not ignore it.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Yeah, that's smart. Exactly. And we've got to say thank you for the correction. I mean, it's a fact, probably a grim fact, we could say. I guess so, yeah, it feels pretty grim. Yeah, but thanks so much. And our next section of the show is where we shout out a few people who have been, you know, supporting the show.
Starting point is 01:37:56 Yep. We love them. So we usually, we just usually comes up with a game for a way we can thank them. Yeah. I was thinking with, you know, because we did get a bit of a kick out of the blue meanies, didn't we? Yeah, yeah. So maybe we could come up with, you know, it's some sort of phenomena. We don't have to go into heaps of detail about it, but what it's called.
Starting point is 01:38:20 These were the first people to see this strange phenomena and what it's called. Yeah, so blue meanie, something like that. Yeah, yeah. Should I get the horse name generator up? Oh my gosh. I miss the horse name generator. It's saving one of my bookmarks now, so it's... Have you used it ever outside of the podcast where you needed something?
Starting point is 01:38:44 Absolutely not. I refuse. Yep. Good. This is just for the pod. So do you want me to... Even when I'm playing The Sims and I have a horse and I need to name the horse. Do you name your horse? Yeah, you can name your horse. You never random horse name generated your horse?
Starting point is 01:38:58 No. Okay. Hey, should I kick us off? Please. I would like to thank first up from Nolsey or Nosely. How could that be right? Nosely. Nosely.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Nosely. All right, now you've said it properly. Rebecca. Rebecca, with two Ks. Double K-A-H. Love that. You need to know who you are. What about?
Starting point is 01:39:26 Happy Yosemite. Happy Yosemite. Okay. I like that. Happy Yosemite. That, for me, I'm imagining like someone who wears like a large hat, a green hat, almost a lepricorn-like. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:42 You're thinking Yosemite Sam, but lepricorn. Leprocorn and yeah, happy, maybe leaves coins under your pillow. Okay. That's nice. Yeah. Love that. Do you want me to go next? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Let's go back and forth. Okay. Should I get the horse name generator up then? No. Okay. because I don't even know what to type Interprime. And I won't share it.
Starting point is 01:40:05 From Melbourne, Victoria, Xanthi. Zanthi. Do you want to just come up with something? Oh, okay. No, I mean, I can do it. I can do everything if you want. I can just do it all myself. I don't need you.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Pickle boy. Pickle boy. I see, I love that. And horse name generator wouldn't have come up with that. You got so chuffed with yourself there. Yeah, pickle boy happy with that. I love pickle boy. No, notes.
Starting point is 01:40:30 No, pickle boy. Don't need to know anything about them. No. You know, Pickleboy. Imagine what you're thinking. That's it. That's it. Pickle boy.
Starting point is 01:40:35 You've nailed it. And we've all thought the same thing. That's what's crazy. That's the phenomena. What? We all know what Pickleboy looks like. Are we all thinking pickle Rick, essentially? Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Yeah. Anyway. I would like to thank from Woodbridge, New Jersey. New Jersey. It is Catherine Pagliucer. Ooh. Pagluch. Pagluka.
Starting point is 01:40:57 Pagliuca. Catherine Pee. Catherine What about Cyclone Bill That's cool That's pretty cool Cyclone Bill Again I'm thinking like a Yosemite Sam type character
Starting point is 01:41:11 I was imagining like That mix with a Tazzy devil In the spin In the spins in cyclones out And he makes a real mess And you're like Fucking Cyclone Bill And maybe yeah
Starting point is 01:41:22 Yeah I'm Cyclone Bill Yes And he just appears And he's like how to get here What fuck is that Where do? Crazy
Starting point is 01:41:29 Thank you Catherine, I would also like... Oh, how fucking dare you. Oh, that's right. Because you said Pagliucho, or Pagliu... Oh, you thought... That made me think that you'd said it. But I didn't.
Starting point is 01:41:40 I just corrected you. I would also like to thank from North Melbourne here in Melbourne. Tim Lowe. I was jumping in, yeah. I think it's probably pronounced Tim Lowe. Okay, thank you. Thank you for that. Tim Lau.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Tim Lowe. What about... Teddy Bear Taxi. I mean, it's not terrifying, but it's cute. Well, it is when you see the teddy bears. Oh, wow. They are horrifically. Wow.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Yeah, oh my God, they've got rabies. It is. They are rabid. It is not good. Tim Law. I don't know if you can tell, but we're recording this pretty late in the night now. Yeah. We've lost our minds a little bit.
Starting point is 01:42:22 But don't worry, everyone. We've got our scrims to eat after this. Oh, my God. I'm so excited. Let's hurry up. I would like to thank from Location Unknown. I can only imagine somewhere deep with. in the fortress of the moles.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Hannah Gregory. Hannah Gregory, you sly dog. Sly dog. There you go. I've done it. The sly dog. Sly dog. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:42 What are we thinking? It's a dog but with a real shifty, good at its eyes, like for the Simpsons. The dog doing shifty eyes. We missed one as well. I want to shout out from Chicago. I knew that.
Starting point is 01:42:55 I wasn't sure how to pronounce this name, so I thought you should do this one. Jennifer Dickinson. Yeah, I wasn't sure. Never heard Jennifer out loud. Never heard it out loud. Jennifer? Yeah, I'm like, is that silent J?
Starting point is 01:43:09 Anifer. What about Jennifer Dickinson? Geronimo Vegas. Oh, that's good. Yeah, these are just good horse names. Oh, but Geronimo. But like, that sounds like the name of a ghost to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Oh, I heard some, you know, the floorboard's creaking last night. Oh, that's just Geronimo Vegas. Don't worry about it. That's just Geronimo. He's harmless. Yeah, don't worry about him. He's most active between like 2 and 3 a.m. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:33 I've got you some ear plugs. You'll be right. Never heard of a solid drone Moe Vegas. Yeah. No, he's great. He's actually good fun. He's actually pretty fun. You like him.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Okay, back to you. Okay, I would like to thank from Maynard in, where's this one? I.A. Iowa. Iowa. I would like to thank Melissa Goss. Melissa Gossie. Ooh, Melissa.
Starting point is 01:43:57 How about Majestic nuts? Yes, and what about the? whole same generator. Or Picasso nuts. They're nuts, but they're all weird. Oh, okay. Take your pick there. Majestic or Picasso nuts.
Starting point is 01:44:14 All nutty. All nutty. Nuts had to be included. I apologize. I don't apologize. Finally, I would love to thank from South St. Paul in Minnesota. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Taylor. No. Talia. Talia. Talia. T-A-L-Y-A. Talia. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:35 You can't with one. Okay. Clear your mind. Take a deep breath. Let it out. Okay. The vicious. Yep.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Sossage. Vicious sausage. Yeah. That feels right. God, the vicious... You do not want to come across a visor sausage. A vicious sausage. If you send her name wrong, you'll be haunted forever.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Yeah, you say it three times. Vissus sausage. Vicious sausage. Vicious sausage. Vicious. Oh my God. No. That's just a bit of silly fun.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Yeah, don't worry, Talia. We're not going to have the vicious sausage. Vicious sausage. It's a warm-up. Vicious sausage. Vicious. Everyone, have a go. Have a go.
Starting point is 01:45:19 We'll wait. So thank you. Thank you to those people. I've lost their names now. I've got them. Talia, Melissa, Hannah, Jennifer, Tim, Catherine, Zanth and Rebecca. Jennifer, did I say that right?
Starting point is 01:45:31 Yes. And so the last thing we need to do is just welcome a few people into the trip ditch club. Ah, yes. So what this is, I'll explain this, Dave. Please do it seamlessly. Is if you support the show on the shout-out level or above for, is that correct? Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:45:49 For three consecutive years, you are automatically welcomed into the trip-ditch club. Once you're in, you can never leave. It's like a cool, exclusive clubhouse. but not in a dickish way. And we've got Matt's on the door. He lifts the velvet rope, checks your name off. I'm behind the bar. This week, I'm serving bits of cow,
Starting point is 01:46:13 and please don't ask where I got them from. All sliced very cleanly, though. Very beautiful clean slice. But I thought about making like a Skin Walker cocktail, but... Oh, that sounds really gross, but I want to hear what it is. It's Johnny Walker. and a human finger. And it didn't go well in some of the taste tests.
Starting point is 01:46:34 So I'm going to scratch that one. It's just a normal open bar. Dave, you always book a band as well? Yes. You're never going to believe who I've booked this week. Who have you got? You'll never, ever, ever believe it. Yes, you've said that.
Starting point is 01:46:48 When I read out the name of this band, you'll be like, I can't believe that this is the band that he could possibly get. I'm impressed you're able to pad so well while still dead. desperately typing and trying to typing anything. I'm just getting up the contract to make sure all the eyes have been dotted, all the T's have been crossed. Yes. And this week, you're never going to believe it. One of the most famous bands to ever come out of Utah.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Yes. Even though they're now based in Las Vegas, Nevada, apparently. Sure. Is there anything to do with fucking Utah? Why is Utah come up? Their hometown is Provo, Utah, playing life tonight. But obviously, I've booked this band months in advance.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Imagine Dragons. Imagine Dragons, who was the name that I recognised that I'm sure if I heard the songs, I don't know a couple, but I can't think of any. How cool. And we're excited to hear songs such as Believer with 2 billion streams. Jesus. What was that noise?
Starting point is 01:47:47 Jesus. Oh my God, they've had 57 million monthly listen. Why have they said yes to come and do it? They're number 27 in the world. What the fuck? Imagine dragons with a name like that? Oh my God, I'm embarrassed for them. But they're playing here tonight.
Starting point is 01:48:07 And we can't wait to ask them if they know of this Utah legend. So we have a few people to welcome into the Trip Ditch Club tonight, Dave. I will do the role of Matt and I'll lift the velvet rope. I'll tick their names off. That means you'll be the negative PRCK. Absolutely not. Oh, thank you. Because I'm still going to be me.
Starting point is 01:48:27 And so you're going to be me. And so you're going to hype them. I'm going to hype you. So, babe, we're cutting out all that negativity, aka Matt Stewart. And we're cutting him out with precision. Let me tell you. You won't even know. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:48:37 So we've got four people to welcome into the club tonight. Are you ready? Absolutely. So I hype these people up. You hype them. I'm so hyped. I hope you. And I love you.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Thank you so much. I love you right back. You hesitated? Sorry, I was still thinking about Imagine Dragon. Let's listen to Imagine Dragons on the drive. We will. While eating those ice creams. And I'll probably be like,
Starting point is 01:49:02 oh, this is pretty good. I get the appeal now. I just didn't know that that were that big. Me either, actually. Okay, first up, we welcome into the Triptage Club. From Brunswick, Victoria, it's Linley Evas.
Starting point is 01:49:13 All Evas and no butthead here. That's good. From Rifle, Colorado, CO, Colorado. Yeah, but Rifles are awesome. Maybe riffle. It's Aaron Romero. Romero, Romero, Romero. Romero, where for out there, Romero.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Holy freaking shit. Here's your Juliet. Yeah, I've not a Shakespeare one in here. I've never done that problem, brother. From Alston, Massachusetts, MA, Maryland. Let me quickly double-check that. I'm so sorry. I reckon it's Maryland.
Starting point is 01:49:44 It's Massachusetts. Massachusetts. Oh my gosh. From Austin, Massachusetts, it's Walker Anderson. Walker right on in. Yes, and finally, from Aurora in Colorado, it's Cheryl Engelsman. Anglesman, more like, what rhymes with Engelsman?
Starting point is 01:50:04 What rhymes with Cheryl? Cheryl? Nothing feral about Cheryl Engelsman. It's the first way that runs to Cheryl. Woo! Let me go, there's a website, which I love Rhyme Zone. No, you've nailed it. There's nothing feral about Cheryl.
Starting point is 01:50:20 That sounds offensive. It doesn't. You've said there's nothing feral about Cheryl. Well, Rhym Zones failed me. It thinks Carol rhymes with feral with Cheryl. with Cheryl, sorry. 100% sterile. Yes. It's Cheryl.
Starting point is 01:50:33 I don't think that's good. Oh, okay. Never in peril when I'm with. Cheryl Engelsman. Third time's a charm. So welcome in. Cheryl, Walker, Erin and Linley. Make yourself at home.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Grab a drink, not the gross one. Sorry again about that. And yeah, make yourself at home and welcome to the club. It also thinks that squirrel runs with Cheryl. Squirrel. And shorrel. Honestly, Dave. But Cheryl and squirrel?
Starting point is 01:51:01 Speak American. Squirrel? Squirrel. They think crack a barrel rhymes with Cheryl. Okay, we have to go. That brings us to the end of the episode. Thank you so much for listening. Hope you enjoyed.
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