Two In The Think Tank - 426 - The Sixth Backstreet Boy, Lou Pearlman

Episode Date: December 20, 2023

This week we are joined by Josh Earl to tell us about wild life of Lou Pearlman; blimp salesman, scam artist and the founding manager of both the Backstreet Boys and NSYNC. This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 07:21 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Listen to Josh's new podcast Four Burners: https://www.joshearl.com.au/ Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our merch: https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:The Boy Band Con: The Lou Pearlman Story (2019)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcCRs0Ic3FI Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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And this week we are very, very blessed to be joined by our very special guest, Josh Ergo. Hello. How are you? We're playing one old man with another old man. And he said before, I mean Matt is canonically as old as the wind. Yes, at least 400 years old on the do-go-on. And you said you thought he was even older than that?

Well, I just assumed he was older than I was. Yeah, right. Because he's so wise. Yeah, I look up to him. I'm like, he knows what he's talking about. He's just taller. I think that's what? And he's got a bigger beard.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll get there one day, Josh. One day. I'm just going to stop shaving it. Yeah, yeah. And keep growing. That's his big secret. Well, great to have you back in the Pod Studio. And I've got to say, it's amazing we found time because you are the man of a thousand podcasts. Yeah. Yes, I've got a couple going at the same time right now. So I've finished up Hums and Hits volume pod, both of you were guests on it, which I went through the entire 100th and Hits compilation

series. So if you're in Australia, that was a big compilation. If you're anywhere else in the world, I think it was overseas, it was called, now that's what I call music compilation. Wow. And we were like, we're just gonna say,

100th and say this. That's worthy. And then we had another one say, I'm saying this. That's worthy. Yeah. And then we had another one, which was called Hit Machine. That was kind of like the Pepsi to come sense coke. And I'm going through all that as well on my Patreon. But that went for a lot longer and was a lot more successful.

So I'm gonna be doing that for ever. You're laughing. Are they still doing here? They still have so freshers. Oh doing here. They still have so freshers. Oh, awesome. They still make so fresh. Yeah, because Hit Machine turned into so fresh. Oh, I loved so fresh.

Yeah, me too. Actually, that would great. That ruled. It's getting really good. We just did one a few weeks ago now with Dave Callan. Hit Machine 25 could be the best collection of pop songs ever on a compilation. Wow.

We're talking no scrubs by Tiel Singh. We're talking Liv and Levitta. Wow. We're talking no scrubs by Tails Lake. We're talking live in Levitta Loca. We're talking, oops, I did it again. Yeah. It's real good stuff. It's real good. That's real good. And I've had you say many times,

I've been big fan of the part. I absolutely love it. That you feel like it's sort of scrambled on your brain a bit, having to listen to these. My brain is broken. You know, when you want to listen to so much Euro dance, and you start going, this is actually really good music. Yeah.

And then you realize, no, no, you've just been listening to a lot of terrible music, and this one's got something that you're liking it. Well, that's part of what I love so much about. Is you get great guests on, but also like to listen to your, sort of, maybe your ear change a little bit, because you talk about how growing up you're a bit of a music snob, and music was a big part of your life.

Yeah. And a lot of these songs, these bands, you had no time for, but now, you've come around. They are absolute bangers. Yes, Robots. I still, and this ups out a few people in the early days, I still really just test the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Okay. But I will admit they've got a couple of good songs, but I don't, and as guys, they might seem, they might seem nice.

Flea, every time I've seen an interview, seems funny, seems fun. Okay. But the people who listen to Red Outschweep happers at my school were the bullies, and I still, I'm going to hold the band responsible for that. Yeah, it's just a bit of trauma. That's okay. That's alright. You know, like, a lot of us go to therapy to work through trauma stuff.

I say, leave some of it. Yeah. It's fine. Leave it untouched. Leave a bit of meat on that fine. It's all right. Little bit fine. Moderation. So that's the part that's what a couple of a hundred episodes or so with that one out there. Yeah, yeah, so that's one's out there. So the hundred percent is finished. The hip machine one's still going on the Patreon and then I've got a new one called Four Burners where I sit down with a guest, and we go through this theory, which is like, say your life is a stovetop burner.

Yep. Four burners, one is health, one is career, one is family, one is friends. You can't have them all burning at one time, at the same time, you're gonna burn out. So we go through, like the idea is that you turn one off, like you don't concentrate on that one for a bit, and then you can be really successful in the other ones.

If you turn two off, you're super successful in the other two. And so I sit down and get some of you talking about their burners, where they're at and at the end we discuss which one they're going to turn off. And it doesn't mean you're going to turn them off forever. It just means at this point in your life, you might. Oh yeah. It's really fun. I love that and feel like I'm in a in a period of my life where a burner needs to turn up. Yeah. That's so interesting. I love that theory. Great.

I can't wait to listen to people talking about that. People smarter than me, you know? Because then I can be like, Ah, I can take notes. Yeah. People better with guests than me. I just want to do it to learn from people. That's it.

Yeah, yeah. That's smart. And also, a podcast that doesn't require heaps of planning and research. All I've got to know is the guest's name. That's it. That's all I have to know. And if you forget it, you're just so mate. Yeah. And sometimes if we do it on Zoom, their name's on there.

Yeah, that's easy. And you're not trying to get four guests at a time, where inevitably somebody backs out. Yeah. It's one person. Which is one person. Oh, you've nailed it. I know. I think after doing podcasts for seven years, I think I'll finally forget how to do it. We are so jealous of it. Yeah, thank you for covering all these podcasts, which requires days of research and writing. I love it.

Let's we appreciate it. So, we've had you on before. We've talked about the Malice in the Palace. Yes. We've talked about the the band that never was. Yes, the Exploding Hearts. Loved that episode. Two great episodes. And I must admit, like I said, big fan of 100% hits your podcast, and you go through a lot of the history of a lot of the bands and the artist what was going on in the world at that time. And you had a little, a short story about someone, which I won't reveal what it is yet, Jess,

but I may as pricked up and I said, that sounds like there's something there. Oh. Sorry. So I said, raise that to there's something there. Oh. Sorry. So I sit, Ray Shatz Johnson said, can we get you back to talk a little bit about that? Because I love it. Okay. No, I'm excited.

I didn't ask you. Yes. Who let the dogs out? No, that's right. Derek, I knew that one. So you know how they say the Beatles, the fifth member was George Martin? Yep. Who was the sixth member of the Backstreet Boys?

Ooh, I have no idea. And I unfortunately wasn't that big into boy bands in the 90s when a lot of my friends were. I loved five. Oh, everybody get up. Yep. Slam dunk the funk. I loved Richie in particular.

He was my favorite. He had great Hugh Grant, style hair. They had a guy in the band called Abs. They did have abs. Oh my god. Abs was the guy I remember. And I remember, so Abs, he had the, or one, I think he was Abs.

Maybe it was the one you're talking about. Richard, he had the sparky hair, but it was little twists of like wax bits. Oh wow. And then that was what he's famous for. Yeah. And that was very big at the time. And then he shaved his head. And everyone was like, it was like twists of like wax bits. Oh wow. And then that was what he's famous for. Yeah. And that was very big at the time. And then he shaved his head.

And everyone was like, it was like when Metallica cut the hair off. I was like, oh my god, how can you do that? And the excuse they came up with was, they perform under hot lights every night. And his head was starting to melt. And he got to have to shut the... Well, abs, his full name was Abs Love. But abs. People think it's because of his torso.

Now, he loved Matt's, Abacus Love. That was his, not true. No, that's very good. So can you name the other Backstreet Boys members? Can you come to mine? Can you name one? Just name one. Nick, there you go.

Sir name, a carder. There you go, that's it, Nick Carter. He was the standout. There was him and Brian. Yep. That was a two-bride. That was a two-standout. I think I get backstrip boys and endsink a bit mixed up. Well, you wouldn't be the only one. I'm going to talk about both those bands. Oh, great. Okay. But the six member was a little man, not literally, called Lou Perlman. Oh, that's a great name. It's a good name, there's a lot of really good names.

Last time we talked in the mountains of the palace, there were a lot of good names in that one. Absolutely. When I was riding there, something thinking, Dave's gonna love this. There's some real good names. I'm so excited. Great.

All right, so here we go, listeners, Lou Perlman. I'm excited. Born in Queens in New York, 1954. Hey, I'm walking here. They're cracking the bat and a third one. Sitting the same love of them. Have you been in New York? No. I've never been either. You've been there. I went for the first time a few months to go. Oh, there you go. Yeah, there's some, there's some pretty wild people on the street I gotta tell you. And very loud people too. Oh. Like you're in an airport there and then if someone's having a conversation

100 meters away, you better believe you can hear every single word for conversation. See, okay, so I think you've just done one thing that I see online a lot that annoys me is where people will be, you get it a lot with like Americans living in Australia and they'll be like, here's five things

I've noticed about Australia. And they'll say something like that, like they're really loud or they all eat jam on toast. And you're sort of like, you've seen two people do that. And there was one the other day, which was like, they make you bring your own alcohol to a party

and it's like, not everyone does. And not every party. Not every party. I had to say, yeah, my first boyfriend's mum said, she had weird ideas about Australians being an Australian herself which is odd but like she was first generation Italian, she was Italian and so talking about just like you know classic fifth generation Australians, she was sort of, she talked about we ate everything out of cans. And, um, like from the can?

I don't know, just everything was canned. Okay. And she went to a wedding in the 70s, where it was like a backyard wedding you had to bring like meat, you had to bring your own chair and like some meat or something. And she thought that was every Australian wedding.

My sister-in-law is English and she reckoned Australians peel veggies wrong. We peel them towards ourselves and our way from ourselves. And I'm like, you guys don't even feel your whole sync up to wash the dishes. You put a bucket in there to wash the... don't tell us how we should be anyway. Is it? Yeah, so I think that they're all loud in New York. Honestly, it wasn't loud as to get...

Yeah, I've ever been to this. That's why I decided to never sleep. Yeah, you're not talking to me. You're not talking to me. Shut the fuck up! So, Lou, the only child of high and reny, no reny, sorry. High under his own dry cleaning business, and reny worked in the school camp camp. Oh please, Tommy, it was called high and dry cleaning.

That's amazing, and it spilt H.Y. as well, not high. Okay, that was my question, how is it spelt? High and dry. Love it. High and dry, that's really good. As a child, Lou was a loner. It's been a lot of times indoors. Other neighborhood kids teased him about his weight. He was a little rotund, and he's constantly lying.

Lying all the time. That feels a bit more worthy of getting teased, to be honest. They're calling him out. Yeah, but it's not teasing. They're just calling him out. Yeah, I was very much on the side. I was lying. I live on the moon.

No, you don't. Well, as a child, he lied so much that when he told his classmates that they should come to his bar mitzvah because his cousin Art Garfunkel was gonna be there, no one believed him. Wow. But they were intrigued, because Simon and Garfunkel at the time,

they'd just released the sound of science. They were one of the biggest pop acts in the world. And they'll, well, let's go to this bar mitzvah and see if Art Garfunkel is actually going to turn up. It's kind of win-win because if Art does turn up, great, they get to see Art, and if he doesn't, they get to all witness Lou lying again. And you know, this is 1967. He's one of the biggest stars in the world. Yeah. As if he's going to go to a 13 year old bum mitzvah. Yeah. Well, you know what? Art is a great man because he turned up.

He was actually a loopholeman's cousin. That's been incredible. He's actually. Yeah. The finally he's not lying about something. It's really cool. So he turns up, stays a half hour, takes some photos. Does this make Luke cool?

Not at all. He's still like, you're still a loser. You have a cool cousin. That does make you cool. We like Paul Simon. Yeah, I'm not going to go. Especially if you know what art-garth uncle looks like. If he's the cool one in the family.

Yeah. Oh, Lou. That's not a cool family. But he did make one friend. Another neighborhood loner. Another only child. A man by the name of Alan Gross. That's a name.

That's a good name. Now, Alan was obsessed with aircrafts in particular blimps. He loved the good year blimp. We loved the good year blimp at this podcast. Yeah, big fan of blimps. Well, the two of them would watch the good year blimp take off from Flushing Meta's Airport, which is just opposite from when they grew up. And so the two boys obsessed with blimps would go down there and try and get a job with the blimp. How many times can you apply for a job before they went every day? Every day at the summer?

Can I have a blimp job? Can I have a blimp job? We get a blimp job. Can we clean the blimp? Can we pull the rope and get it into place? Eventually the guys there went, all right, fine. You can have a job here pulling the blimp in. Oh, I thought it would be like, you can have a job here, pull in the blimp in. Oh, I thought it would be like,

you can have a job here, cleaning the toilet in the staff room on the ground. They just wanted to be around it. And the boys vowed that they would own their own blimp business one day. Which is a gluttonoblable goal. Yeah, and achievable. Now, just an image for those listening at home

who haven't already Googled what Lou Perman looks like. Imagine Philip Seymour Hoffman, the Lake Great Actor, he's put on about 20, 30 kilos. Okay. That's what we're doing. That's what we're doing, okay. So during his first year as a student at Queen's College,

Perman wrote a business plan for a class project based on the idea of a helicopter taxi service in New York City. So if you need a taxi, you can't go on the road, the subway is too full, don't like it, building or building on taxis. That's why it's so loud. That's why it's everywhere in that city. It's so loud. It's not that crazy in ideas. If you think about how we have water taxis, yeah. So is it crazy to just get a helicopter taxi? And by the late 70s, he had launched the business based on his business plan with his friend and aviation lover, Mr. Gross.

Wow. They started with one helicopter. And then he went to Germany and persuaded a German businessman, seador a violin camper to train him on blimps. Just give him blimp training. Yep. I want blimp training.

And they did it in violent campers facilities in West Germany. That's where you learn all about blimps, okay? But when he turned up, so, uh, Theodore was expecting like a proper adult. And this guy was only 22. Wow. And he was like, I thought I was speaking to an adult. You own your own helicopter business? You guys, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm an entrepreneur. I'm a mover. I'm a shaker. I'm a blue parliament. Yeah. I'm a mover. I'm a shaker. I'm a blue palman. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why I need to say that. I'm a blue palman. I can't fun cool as my cousin. Oh, come on in. Yes. Limp training begins now. I can get him on the phone. So Lou came back to America and attracted a big name client to advertise on the blimp. The gene company, Jordace. A Jean company. Jean's.

You've heard of Levi's? Of course. Well, this is Jordace or Jordacee or Jadaki. I don't know how to say it. Jordacee. Jordace. The only thing was he didn't own a blimp yet. But he's got the advertiser.

He's got a client. And he's got a client. So they paid him some money up front and with that money He could afford to pay for a blimp. Wow a cheap one, but still it's a blimp a blimp a blimp is a blimp That's fun to say I had just try it's it makes fun shapes in your mouth say a blimp a blimp a blimp a blimp That's fun. It's a really fun Blimp, so blimp. Isn't that fun? That's fun.

The blimp, the double blimp. That's really fun. The blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, blimp, bl And this just jordace written on the side with gold heavy gold paint Too heavy for a blimp And that first blimp crashed Yeah, so this is it seems that on the side of the blimp that faced the sun the gold paint had absorbed the heat Causing the helium inside to expand unevenly and the blip started moving in circles and then slowly Sparrow towards the ground finally crashing into the trees just a few hundred yards from the site of the 1937 Hindenburg disaster

Okay, really salt on the wounds. Don't take it off there I should the pilot find good. Yeah, it was a slow crash. Okay. Yeah. It would be painful, which is going, we're hitting ground soon. Oh no, brace yourself. Keep racing. There's enough time to get embarrassed.

Yeah. Which I usually isn't in a crash. Yeah. So Alan Gross was devastated. Their first blimp crashed. Lou, kind of a bean about it. Took it all and he stride. Mainly because he'd insured that $10,000 blimp for $3 million.

That was impossible. That's a bad insurance company. That's incredible. Yeah. Alan Question White was insured for so much. And Lou told him to mind his own business. If he knows what's good for him. It is his business. That he knows what's good for him. It is his business.

That's exactly what Alan said. This is my business. This is my business. This is my fucking business. And he said for your own safety, keep your nose out of it and stop asking questions. So Alan stopped asking questions. Alan, don't stop asking questions when it's business made.

You're liable for stuff. Yeah. So with this $3 million, Lou moved out of New York and went down to Orlando where he tried to attract bigger clients and he started a new business called Airship International. I like it. Or more blimps. Well, 300 blips.

And this is the clients he got. He got SeaWorld. Oh, shit. We've heard of SeaWorld. Yeah, I know it. MetLife, I don't know MetLife, but it seems pretty beautiful. Yeah, that sounds like it'd be a thing.

Yep. And a little company called McDonald's. I've heard of it. Yeah, I know of it. Oh, is it, is it grimace? The whole blimpish grimace. It's perfect. So airship international would also

charter airplanes for people, which was pretty impressive for a company that didn't own any airplanes. He's really good. Yeah, he's an entrepreneur. Yeah. So for their promotional material, people thought that had one because on the poster was a massive plane taking off over air sheetment international headquarters, but it wasn't a real plane and through some photo trickery and some force perspective, Lou held a model of the plane up and took a photo of it. So you couldn't say his fingers holding it. And it was Alan Grosser's model plane and Alan was disgusted that his model plane was used to trick people.

Alan, can I just say, is the most innocent man I've ever seen? Alan, I feel sorry for him. So the documentary where he's in called, I won't get away, but it's out there on YouTube. You can watch it all. And Alan lives in his little apartment in New York. Does his model planes, there's thousands of blimp posters up on the walls? Oh, he just really, really liked flimsy, the model planes. He loves it. Okay, but one of these charter planes that he would charter. So he would charter the plane.

So someone would hire him to charter his plane. And he would just charter someone else's plane and say, this is my plane. Yep. And so he was flying. The boy band, new kids on the block and their manager and Lou was fascinated how could these young kids afford a plane, their own private charter plane? How can you afford a plane, my stupid price, because I have to play another plane.

So you're playing a premium. So we got talking to the record of their manager and the manager said, oh no, these guys have sold $200 million in record sales, but here's where the money is, 800 million in merging touring sales. Wow. And Lou decided he was in the wrong business

and was determined to have his own boy band. Yeah, like that's, I mean, okay, I was gonna say, like it's that easy to just have a really successful boy band, but Lou also has fairly easily had a blimp and aircraft business. Yeah, he kind of thinks about how you're actually happy. Yeah, so I think maybe he will, he will be able to make a boy band. I don't know. You got a Germany, go back to that guy.

Look, you know a lot of replimps. What do you know about boys and bands? Put them together. Louis will make some money. So he hired the new kids on the block manager, and set up his own record label called Trans Continental Records. And in 1992, we went on a talent search for the hottest singers in Orlando. Now, Orlando, you might think, oh, Orlando Florida, like what's...

But it's where Disney, is it Disney World? Yes. Yeah. So a lot of people go down there trying to get jobs at Disney, a lot of young singers trying to make it big. Yeah. And our Hollywood's too big. Yeah. Let's go down Orlando.

So we had a pick of who was there. Hmm. Okay. So in the Orlando Sentinel, the newspaper, he placed an ad that said it was looking for a band with new kids on the block look and boys to men sound. Oh, okay. I mean, it does sound a little bit racist when you put it like that. It does really. Yes it does. Yeah okay. Yeah yeah. No you're right. Yes it does. As soon as you point that out you can't.

You can't hear it. You can't hear it. And he held auditions in his blimp hanger and there he signed Howie Dorrow, AJ McClain, and Nick Carter. Oh my God. Yeah, so they make that three of a little bank with the Backstreet Boys. Wow. And then he would later sign Kevin Richardson and Brian LaTrell

and on April 20, 1993, Lou Perman, Christian Them, the Backstreet Boys. So that was the first name, that was their first name. Yeah, right, because you know how like, so many bands all change their names a their first name. That was their first name. Right. Because you know how like so many bands, or change their names a million times, especially like pop groups and stuff.

But straight from the get-go, they're the backstreet boys. So yeah. I found this out the other day, Westlife, you know, the Irish boy band. Yes. Their initial band was called Six On One. And then they changed it to IOU, but you like were we're spelled YOU, like IOU, YOU. Okay. And Simon Cowell, so Louis Walsh went to sign them and took him to

Simon Cowell. So Louis Walsh's famous is on like X factor, I think, in the UK. He's famously the one who turned down Harry Styles and said, no, you don't have a kid. Let's. Yeah, but he took him to Simon Cowell. This is the six members of Westlife and Simon Cowell said, they can sing, but they are the ugliest band

have ever seen, fire three of them. And so they fire three of them. Pick any three. Yep, three. It's just, it needs to be that percentage less ugly. And then get three hardies in. And they got two. They got Brian McFadden and another.

All right, so Brian was the hot ring in. The hot ring in, yep. Oh, Brian. So the Backstreet Boys, named after this place in Orlando where kids would hang out called the Backstreet Markets. Okay. And so he was like, all right. I never knew that.

Yeah, the Backstreet Boys. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Kids that hang out at the market, all right. Yeah. They then got them performing everywhere that would have them. Shopping malls, restaurants, sea world, anywhere that would have them shopping malls restaurants see world

Anywhere that would have them. I'm a Donald's bloom. Yeah, they're performing for the dolphins They love AJ But they do not like how we We keep how we at the back of the dolphins They recruited both a Kevin and a Brian They're doing a scene that's one to be like these sex symbols. There's a very funny to me. Not fancy to do Kevin's or Brian's this thing, but you understand.

You know what you are. We're a Jess and a Dave, okay? We're in the same ballpark. That's right. You're the hottest man on earth. Dave. It's not happening. I don't know, David Beckham.

Ah, true. It's pretty good looking. Yeah, that's right, but I think that he never... Jessica Alba. There you go. Jessica Simpson. Come on, Jess. Oh my God.

Okay, but I feel like Jessica Rabbit. What are you talking about? Oh my God, yeah. Jess is a hot, yeah, Jess is. But he was mostly a David, right? David Beckham. Yeah, yeah. David Sammins would like to do something in a David Bowie.

Is there any hot Dave's? Dave. Callin. Dave Callin. Beautiful man. Callin'. Dave Callin'. Beautiful man. Beautiful man. Got a lot of views. That is beautiful man.

To all the hottest men in comedy. Dave Thornton. Oh yeah, Dave Thornton is. Yeah, there is. Yeah, there is. So he's in my character Dave. Okay. So he's in my character Dave.

All right, so they almost got a distribution deal with murky records. So we're quite a big record company, but their artist John Cougar Melon Camp said if you get into the boy band business, I'm out of here. Oh wow. Oh, I know. I affect you at all. John Cougar Melon Camp with the other artists, so they make you do it and you're festival with all the other artists or something. But this was 1993. So can you imagine like John Cougar Melon Camp did not have any hits after 1993?

Yeah, whereas the backstreet boys went on to be the highest selling group Boyband of all time. No, they backed Kugamelin camp over the backstreet boys. Yeah, I'll do you Anyway So They missed out on the backstreet boys now all the guys were living together in the one house That would rehearse for six hours a day in the blimp hanger and call Lou, and he made them call him this, big papa. Puh.

Big papa. That's incredible. And a big papa was paying for everything. Okay, with blimp money. Yep, and he wanted to think of them as a father figure. Okay, and he would regale them with stories. One being how, how old is he at this point?

So he was born in 54, so this is 19, so he's like almost 40. Yeah, he's sort of like 30s. Yeah. He's still young. He's still young. And he's sort of like, call me dad. Call me Big Papa.

Call me Big Papa. So he would tell them sort of that how he made his money and he's like on an entrepreneurial brain. And so he told them one story, when he was a kid, another kid in his like street had a paper out and Lou wanted the paper out. Sure. And so the kids that I'll sell it to you for $500. It's a lot of money.

Hey. 1967. And so Lou slept on it and went, you know what, I can make this work. So he agreed to buy it off him, but he said, I'll pay you back over the weeks and you get here. And so what he did then was he hit him, but he said, I'll pay you back over the weeks and you'll get here. And so what he did then was he then hired a bunch of other kids in the neighborhood to work for him. And they would go off and then this way they can deliver way more papers.

But what he also did was went to the Dunkin' Donuts and said, people will like to read their newspaper and eat a doughnut. You guys don't deliver doughnuts. I've got an army of kids who can deliver the paper and a donut. So if you sell me the donuts cheaper, I'll give you money back and then I'll take the profit off of that. And he paid the guy back really, really quickly. Wow. He just has one of those business minds. Yeah.

This was a lie. So the guy, the guy he said, he did it, but he said this as if I'd pay, if I had sell for 500 bucks, a paper, if I had, like, he goes 500 bucks back there, it was so much money. That would be more money than my dad was making. He goes, this didn't happen. Like, I was like, this is impressive.

This kid, he just has one of those brains. Yeah. It's super. It's just, so we're falling for it. Yeah. Because essentially what he is, he's a con artist. Yeah. Because essentially what he is is a con artist. Yeah, but I guess he's charming. He's doing it because like him saying, yeah, I had a blimp business sounds too insane.

He's got a like dumb it down for the, yeah. To be more appealing to these young men. I think he just wants to be liked. Right. Can I probably trust the newspaper guy story story over I owned a blimp business. Yeah, I do. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

Right, you sound like you know what you're doing. I bought a blimp, I crashed it. And then I bought 10 more blimp. So in 1994, I formed at a school, they formed a school. There was someone from Jive Records at the school. So a little obviously invited them to come along and look at the school gig.

And obviously the kids were going crazy for it. And then this is the sound of the future. Saw them, signed them. And then they set them up, they flew them to Sweden to work with two men called Max Martin and Dennis Pop. So if anyone who knows anything about music, Max Martin, Max Martin has, I think, behind Paul McCartney and John Lennon has the most

number one singles ever. Yep. Has written for so many big names. Yes. You read the list of, so I can't even think of examples now, but you read the list of songs that he's written and you're like, oh, yep. Yep. So this is very early on in his career.

Okay. So, Demo's pop, what Hido had hits, he was the producer of Ace of Base. Yep. The sign is a great story about how they sent him their demo, and this was back in the day where it was on cassette. So he put it in his car and it got stuck in the car stereo. So every time he drove, he just had to listen to Ace of Base. At first, he said, I don't really like it. And then after a week, he's like, I love this song. This is amazing. The same thing happened with me, my seatbelt in the front,

the sensor is broken, so it doesn't think, I'm wearing a seatbelt, so for the first four minutes of any drive, it's just going, beep, beep, beep. I hated it. Now, I love that sound. Yeah. I can't get enough. That's, that I would, I would be driving the car off a car. It's very annoying. I'm getting a

replacement in the week, but it's been four weeks. That is so annoying. So Dennis has had hits with Dr. Albin. He's the dentist, right? Yes. Yes. He was a dentist. I love that. Yeah. Ace of Base and Michael Jackson's nephew's 3T. Wow. Yeah. Just in Germany and Sweden and in Europe and so on. And Max just starting out as a producer, but it was about to change pop music forever. Okay.

So in these sessions, these first sessions, they recorded their first single, We've Got It Going On, which was a hit in Germany, Switzerland, Austria, France and the Netherlands. Wow. It was not released in their home country until way after, because a Montreal DJ heard it while he was traveling through Europe and played it on radio show in Montreal, then it made its way down south to the US and it peaked on the Billboard charts at number 69. Nice!

I like that, I do. Great, yeah. So, can I ask, before they went and caught up with Max and Dennis? Dennis? Dennis with a Z. That's good stuff. But like, they were signed from that high school.

High school school show. So who was writing their music then? Or are they doing covers? I guess they're doing covers. Yeah, we're at cool. Yeah. There you go. But I kept it getting bigger in Europe,

in particular Germany, the home of blimps. No. And when they release their song, I'll never break your heart. It sold 250,000 copies in Germany alone. And the band were voted International Band of the Year at their music awards. And their debut album sold half a million copies. Wow.

But the boys, not seeing any of this in their bank accounts. Ah, they were just on per-dembs. $35 a week. And Big Papa was paying for everything else. So flights, hotels, food, rent, rent, rent if they all agree to live in lose apartment, he organized it all for them. And they're making $35 a week.

$35 a week. $5 a week. I know it's the 90s, but that's still not much money. Oh, yeah, I guess you could say it's not much money. Yeah. Yeah. $5 a week. I'm gonna go out in the limb. Sorry guys. Sorry guys. And just say, that. Yeah. Fuck those. I'm gonna go out and limp.

Sorry guys. And just say, that's not very much money. So eventually, the label decided, you know what, these guys, I think they're ready for America. And so they released the Max Martin Penn song that I'll never break out. A song that recorded on June of 1995

when Nick Carter couldn't actually sing on it. Because he was 15 and he was going through puberty and could no longer hit the high notes. So on the actual recording, the first record, he's not on it. He's now since they've re-recorded it and he's on it, but at 15, he couldn't hit those high notes. Wow. I guess I didn't realize that how young they were as well, yeah. He was the youngest, yeah. So, 1997, that had already worked on their second album, The Bam, and more exciting about the new songs, and really wanted the song, Everybody, Backstreet's Back,

to be their first American single, to which Barry Weiss, they hit a drive, quite smartly said, Your debut can't be saying your back. That's street's black. That's a great point. They tried to argue it. They could be like, we're back from a holiday,

back from the shop, because we could be back. Yeah, doesn't it? The opening line is, Oh be like, we're back from a holiday, back from the shop. Because we could be back. Yeah, doesn't it? The opening line is, oh my god, we're back again. That's who the hell are you? It's so good. Big fan of that song. Big fan, love it. It is a good song. So good, what are the great pop songs?

All right, so all of this was happening. And Lou, he was getting dissatisfied with how slow everything was taking. Takes a long time to write and record. Takes a long time to release. Takes a long time to write and record. Takes a long time to release. Takes a long time, all this kind of stuff. Oh my God. Dude, they've just started half of the copies in Germany. It's like straight up.

You're only paying them 35 bucks a week, you're fine. This doesn't happen to most bands. But you decided he's gonna do something about this. What he was gonna do, he's gonna form another boy band. Perfect. Yes. He was singing co-cat Pepsi. McDonald's has Burger King. Pizza Hut has Dominoes. There's always competitor. another boy band. Perfect. Yes. He was singing co-cat Pepsi. McDonnell has Burger King.

Pizza Hut has Dominoes. There's always competitor. So why not him just make his own competitor? And so, for the back strip boys, he was going to do this. So this time, he met with a young performer called Chris Fitzpatrick, who just missed out on a spot in the back strip boys. But Lou had kept in contact with him and said, if you get a band together, I'll have a look at it.

And if I think it's good enough, I'll find answer it. So Chris got his friends, JC Shazay, Lance Bass, Joey Fattone, and Justin Timberlake. You know that band? Yes. No, the band. I know this band. So that originally had a guy called Jason Galasso,

but he was replaced by Lance. So do you know how their name came about, N-Sync? No, it's the last letter of their first name. So the last letter of the, Oh, yeah, just Tim, yeah. Yeah, J.C. Joey is the Y. Yep.

Chris is the S. And then Jason Galasso was the other N, but he got kicked out and Lance bass came in. So they should have really been NSYNC. Oh, yeah. But there isn't an asterix before the end so I'm wondering if that's what the asterix is for. Oh right. Lance. He occasionally looking into it. Lance is represented by this. I didn't look this up. Maybe it is. Maybe that's what the asterix is for but that's yeah anyway. They auditioned for Lou. Lou loved it. He loved the harmonies, he loved how good they were dancing,

and he said, you know what, you're good enough for the hanger. So he got them all to move to Orlando and leaving a house he organized for them. Lance's mum came down, she was a teacher, so she chewed at the boys, okay, when they had time. They too were on per diems of $35 a week. Oh my God. But Lou didn't tell the backstreet boys about it.

Sure, he kept it secret. And on official documents for transcontinental records, they'll just down as T5, as in transcontinental five. Didn't have anything to do with NSYNC, that's all they would just there. So he follows the blueprint he had

with the Backstreet Boys, Fluban Sweden, worked with Dennis Popper Max Martin in Shaderon Studios, and when the Backstreet Boys fan out about NSYNC, furious, okay? And Lou decided to feed on this by telling each band that they were his favourite band. Of course, yes. Healthy.

This worked for Lou as both bands would work harder and try and beat the other ones. And also, at the time, they were pitched as, are you a Backstreet Boys fan or you an NSYNC fan? Yeah, you can't be both. It was the blurrises of the... Wow. The pop boy band world. Okay, so two years into this. Only been paper dams, performing huge venues,

getting songs in the top 10 internationally selling over 10 million albums, Lou invited nsync to a sit down down with the parents and he cleared it check day. They're finally, after two years, 10 million albums, getting checks. Okay. Not just their dance.

They're bringing in a few suitcases. Can we guess? Like, is there an amount? There isn't an amount. So just think they've been on TV. They've sold up theaters. Millions of albums. The merch must be through the roof, because you said New Kids on the block, they're $800 million of merch and I. Okay. So there's five members of the band, I get it.

So how much do you think they got paid for two years' work? Because I think, because he's paying them $35 a day. He's pocketing everything. I'm doubtful it's gonna be a big number or a number that they should be making. It should be like a couple of million, a few million eight,

just like two million three million eight. That's what it should be, a few million each. Just like two million, three million each. That's what it should be, right? I'm even thinking like 25k, I think that's too much. That can't be, it's gotta be more than that. I think he's gonna give me, it's like 10 grand, I'd be like, hey, and there are only goes, but on trays are on me. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

I think he's gonna be trying. It's a big, come on, big pup is paying. Share, though, they're big paying. Ha ha ha ha. Share, though, they're big desserts. Whoa, okay. You can't eat all that. You share. Joey Fattoni, I know your surname's Fat One.

But come on. Only one dessert. Ha ha ha. What, so what do you reckon Dave? I'm hoping it's a million dollars. Yeah, I'd love it to be, but I think it's lower. Hello. I'm gonna say 100 grand.

You did say it. $10,000 each. That's a $10,000 each. I can't believe you're on it. $10,000 each. That can't be right. Everyone. Furious. 10 million records.

10 million records. And there are 10 grand each. 10 grand each. Two years work. Go by yourself something special. $5,000 a year. Like the parents theory. So it's a bonus, it's a bonus $100 a week.

Then he's like, there you go. Yeah. So Lou couldn't understand why he goes, what are you talking about? Like, guys, you're voting check day. I've paid for everything for two years. Where do you think that money's coming from? This meal is coming from, like,

this is comes out of the earnings. Like, you don't just get to fly private jets and you think no one's paying for it, that you're paying for it. So he could understand why they were upset at making only $10,000 for two years, being like one of the biggest bands in the world. Like global superstars.

Yeah. So a few weeks later, Justin Timblek was playing a celebrity basketball game in Orlando alongside Nick Carter. And so after the game, he went up and spoke to him and said, hey, check your books, because I think Lou is stealing from us. So Nick Carter went back and got the books checked and found out, yes, they were, in fact, stealing from us.

So apparently Lou had stolen 50% of their fact stealing from. So apparently, Lew had stolen 50% of their earnings, but in the contract, Lew had placed himself as the sixth member of each group. So he was, I'm also living on five dollars a day, kid. So I'm doing great. Yeah. So Nsync sued Perlman, Annie's record company, Transcontinental, for defrauding the group of more than 50% of their earnings, rather than his promise of only receiving one sixth of the profits of the profits, similar to his promise of one sixth of the profits with the Backstreet Boys.

They threatened to leave and sign with Give Records, which prompted Perlman and RCA to counter Sue N-Sync for $150 million. We have no money. Yeah, we have no money, man. Yeah, okay. Between the five versus we have $50,000. Oh my God.

We can't even get through day one of court proceedings. So Transcontinental, along with RCA's parent, BMG Entertainment, went to federal court and filed said $150 million suit. And it has to stop NSYNC for moving to gybe records. He said, if you do move, you can't have the name NSYNC. We own the masters, so you can't play any of your songs. And they had their second album, so you won't be able to release this second album.

Okay. The suit also claims that Give Executives introduced the group into breaking its transcontinental contract and Perlman's request for a preliminary injunction against the band was denied. In December 1999, Nsync and Perlman reached an undisclosed settlement out of court, freeing the group to release future albums on Juive Records. Now, there's a couple of things that won the case for N.Sing.

The first one, the judge, she was great. Her daughter, Hugh Trann, had N.Sing. And when Lou tried to argue that he was the six member, she said, hang on. So if I go home tonight and look at the posters of NSYNC and Backstreet Boys on my daughter's wall, will I say a man in these forties who's bald in any of those pictures? And you try to argue, no, no, no, but it'll be hard to answer because you're not in the band, okay? You're not in the band. Oh, look closely, I'm in the backroom. That's not great, thumbs up.

But what, so that got the instinct on her side, but what actually won the case? Because in the contracts, he said that he would sign them to a US label first, and he didn't, he signed them to a German label first, so the actual contract was now employed. So the judge was flabbing at, so he thought he would be able to own 90% of their earnings. And so she ruled for the band and the implosion of Perlman's empire began. Wow. He thought I should have 90%. 90% of everything that both these bands make. I've done all the work. Yep. I'm the one on stage singing. Who's hangar are you hanging out in? Like, yeah. I've provided the hangar. I paid the, like, I think it's like 20 cents

of word for the Orlando Sentinel ad. Like, that's me, I did that. Biggest pair of the world, selling huge amounts of records and stuff, their manager should be also quite wealthy. Yes. I don't think anyone would argue against, you could do quite well from this.

You should be doing well. You're managing two gigantic boy bands who are doing incredibly well. Yep. And you've put in a lot of work. Yes, you should be living very comfortably. So should they. So should they. They used to be older speed millionaires and be really... You should all be millionaires because also they're the ones in the public spotlight, which ruins your life.

Yep. Whereas he just gets to go about his day, although he'd probably love the spotlight. Yeah, you should be wealthy. They should be very wealthy. Yes. Well, incredibly, this didn't stop Bands still wanting to sign with Transcontinental Records. That thing of young people going,

well, it worked for these guys. Yeah. We can sign. It worked for them, like, in terms of being famous, not financially. No. So he signed a band called Otown. OK.

I never heard. Seenote, I never heard of these. No. Nick Carter, younger brother Aaron Carter, was also signed with them. I love that. Eric Carter. Eric Carter, the backstreet boy's left as well.

Still signed. And the younger brother still went, yeah, I'll go with this. He had girl group Solid Harmony, and a band called Innocence spelled INNOSE, which for a short time, Britney Spears was a member. Ah! But then she left to go solo. He's someone weed about. So, on her first national tour, she had in a sense as a support act, which I'm not sure

is it nice or is it, hey, look at me now. Yeah, how did it say? I was you for a while, and now look at me. I saw these hard to say. I was you for a while. Yeah. Look at me. I saw these tickets. Yeah. You guys can support me. Like, yeah.

I'm doing your favor. So I'm beyond so having Kelly Roland as a support act. Yeah. Would Kelly say, yeah, so would she go, oh, no, I don't want to do that. Yeah, no, no, that is tricky. Yeah. Depends on, you know, the relationship, but probably feels a bit, bit yuck. Well, speaking of yuck, we're about to get into some murky territory.

Okay. Okay. Okay. So we've had fun with the blimps. feels a bit bit yuck. Well, speaking of yuck, we're about to get into some murky territory. Oh, that's great. So we've had fun with the blimps. Haven't we had fun? Remember the blimps? All right. Lou was a bit letharist with some of the members of the bands, OK? So he constantly asked to see the guys abs,

arguing that as their manager, and he's selling them on their sex appeal, he needs to make sure that they are still fit and healthy. Oh my gosh. All right, boys, line up, App Check. Oh wow, that's so honest. That's really gross. He would also offer to massage the boys and according to O-Town member Ashley Parker Angel, he would massage him into shape. He said, because he had a degree in remedial massage. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. Now he didn't.

Fuck. And he's a young boy's young boy.. No, he didn't. And these are young boys, young, young, but I want, they're all over 18. I should put that up there. Yep, just in case. Yeah, okay. Yep. And he said he knew exactly what muscles to press to get him to pop with that even having to work out. No, he didn't. Yeah. So Ashley led him, but luckily, not long into it, Lou got a phone call and actually ran out of the room. So if this isn't creepy enough, not long into it, Lou got a phone call and actually ran out of the room. So this isn't creepy enough. This happened to a man called Rich Cronan of the band, LFO.

So LFO was one of his other bands and he told this story on Howl Stern. So he was living in Lou's house, Lou came into the room all worked up, excited, said, I've just got this massive deal for your band in Germany, okay? They love the band, the only thing is, for them to sign you, the head of the label just wants to touch your penis. That's what he's gonna do. Just touch a pretty normal deal, happens all the time. So Rich, Outraged, and Lou, saying, I understand, but we've got to think about

the band here, okay? You've got to think about the whole band. And you know what? How about you let me practice on you first, because I have a minor degree in psychology, so I can get you through this mentally. Guess what? He didn't have a minor degree. No, no. Rich did not do it. Okay, great. He's like, no. Yuck. He's the third, yucky thing. He had cameras all over his house So this is the house he made them live in so there's cameras in every room and the control room where all the like TVs were with his bedroom. Oh So he also had a sunbed a tanning bed in his house Yeah, and he would invite the members of innocence

The one of the one two girl groups he had to come over and use it. And then he would offer the boys in the other bands, hey, do you want to see the girls strip off and use this? Oh yeah. None of them did. And then they actually told the girls from Innocence and they were like outraged. Wow. Yeah, I'm happy to hear that.

Just statistically, that's a lot of young boys, and it is impressive that nobody even young and dumb, you know, your brain's not fully formed. Yeah. That nobody was like, yeah, okay. I'm gonna be a star. Yeah, it's hot. So, in a sense, member Nikki Deloche,

she had already had her lawyer tell her not to sign with Lou as the worst contract she'd ever seen. Wow. But this lure of being a star, I'm going to sign anyway. I think this is my only chance to be a star. We're in the band wanted to leave, because I realized he was awful. He would only allow them to leave on the release form, made him the six member of the group for the remainder of their career.

So he just keeps profiting. He's just going to keep getting money. She decided not to sign it, because the six member clause. And also, of a confidentiality clause, meaning she was never allowed to keep getting money. She decided not to sign it because the six member clause and also of a confidentiality clause meeting she was never allowed to speak about him publicly ever. And when she told him this, that she's not going to sign that, he said to her that he had life insurance out on her and said, okay, well, if you're flying or whatever,

I have insurance. So just, you know, keep that in mind. And for a guy with like a history in the aviation industry, that's a very scary threat. Yeah. The history of tanking blimps. Yeah. Yeah.

And cashing the check afterwards, wow. Yeah. It's funny because pretty early on, we were pretty sure he's a bit weird and crook. And now you're like, yeah. Well, it gets even worse. Oh, good. So bands are leaving, Lou,

but he's still caching in on being a talent breaker. And he purchased a talent agency where young people would pay money to get their headshots and put on a database and he would promise them to get work, although no one ever got work. Of course. So it's just like thousands of people paying him money

and it's just collecting checks and using a photographer that he, no, you have to use this one. Yeah. And so, yeah. And anytime they would get bad reviews or people would look into it and go, don't trust this company, they'd just change the name. So, from transcontinental talent to Willa Meena Talent Scouting, WebStone Network, Fashion

Rock, and then Talent Rock. Wow. And so, the FBI was investigating in this. And the Attorney General was a man called Charlie Christ, who? Loo. Charlie Christ. Christ. Get in there.

It could be Christ, C-R-I-S-T, which is a Christ or Christ. I'd say Christ. Yeah. Christ. Anyway. Maybe Christ, but let's call him Christ. Charlie Christ. It's so good.

Well Loo and him became friends, and rumors are that Loo paid him out, and one investigator on the case believed this because they went to the trans-continental officers to investigate and she said every single person in the office didn't look up from their computer while they were working and she said look I've been in officers when the FBI come in and people are freaking out because they know what's going on what's going on here what's going on here what you're fascinated about sure even when like to someone were in an office comes in a suit and you don't recognize them, you're like, who the heck's that?

Yeah. She said no one looked up, no one said, excuse me, what are you doing? And she is convinced that they were all paid actors. So maybe he'd got some people, some acting work. Well, there were all, they all had their shirts off and their abs were incredible. But none of them looked at us. Yeah, it's like a cop's walk into a cafe

and you're like, are they just here for lunch or something? Yeah, totally, it's just a fascinating. So they're just here for lunch, okay? And if you haven't done anything dodgy, what's going on? So her belief is that Charlie, Chris, Tipped, Lou off, he said, all right, here's what's going on, okay.

But now gets worse for Lou, okay? Because not only was he defrauding young people with the dreams of making millions, he also had been defrauding old people in the longest running Ponzi scheme in American history. What? Yeah. So he'd been defrauding investors out of more than a billion dollars.

What? Out of which 300 million is still missing. For more than 20 years, he would entice individuals to bank and bank to invest in transcondental airlines, transcond records, and both companies' parent, transcondent and international artists, included, incorporated. Wow.

And so all three companies were not real companies. They only existed on paper. And so, what, and that's at least until the boy bands took off, and then it was like, all right, but at the start, he got all these investment from people just by paper. Just, I've got the paperwork. He's just obsessed with money, isn't he? Yeah, yep. And anyway, to get it. with money, isn't he? Yeah, yeah.

And anyway to get it. What's he spending it on? Yeah, cameras. He's got so much. Yeah. So a lot of people invested all their finances. He really prayed on people who had just retired and got this lump sum and he'd go,

all right, this is a safe bet, okay? And in the documentary, I watched the boy Van Conn, lots of people are like going, he seemed like you'd go into his room and he'd have all the gold records on the wall. And he'd be like, I hang on, a very important person just walked in and then he'd go, oh, sorry, that was just a Justin Timber.

Anyway, what can I do for you? You guys are the most important, and he just charmed them and get them to hand over their entire life savings. And I don't, I mean, you can't pity people like this because they're awful. Yeah. But also there's a part of me that is like,

how are you existing day-to-day when surely you are in some version of fight or flight constantly. The strain on your body must be, so because you can't possibly be that ignorant to it, you know what you're doing doing and you know you're scamming people and you know you're full of shit, you know you're going to get caught, that adrenaline constantly will be killing you. Yeah, there's so many balls to keep in the air. It will be awful, you can't relax.

So he got his lines from Banks by creating a fictitious accounting firm called Cohen and Segal and he'd go Oh, yeah, this is my accountants and it sounds legit does sound legit So in February 2007 Florida regulars announced that Perlman's transcontinental savings program was indeed a massive fraud and the state took possession of the company Most of the at least $95 million which had been collected from investors was gone. Orange County Circuit judge, Renee Roche, ordered Perman and two of his associates, Robert Fischetti and Michael Crudell, to bring back to the United States any assets taken abroad, which were derived from illegal transactions. So Lou disappeared. He went on the run. Wow. He's taken off. Yeah. So then the bloom. Oh, that's big. Slow bloom, Joe. Just. They've been sighting's of him in Germany, Switzerland, Canada, Israel, but it wasn't

until he was spotted in Bali by a German couple on holiday, because you know, the Backstreet Boys, huge in Germany. Yeah, yeah. Lou, what do they mean, famous in Germany? Yeah. He's the guy. He's the guy he's not been on their poster in the bedroom wall. Wow.

He's the six member. Yeah. Excuse me. Are you? The six member of the backstreet boys? So he was arrested on June 14, 2007 in Bali, after being spotted by the tourist couple on holiday. He was living in a hotel called the Nusadua in Bali and he'd been seen in Orlando in late January in 2007 in early February in Germany, including appearance on German TV on February 1. You're really laying low there, Ron Lu. You get the wrong film and Lu film. He'd also been seen in Russia, Belarus, Israel, Spain, Panama and Brazil.

So he's having a terrible time. Yeah, and in early February, the attorney in Florida had received a letter from him sent from Bali. So they knew he was around there. Yeah. They just didn't know exactly where. So he was finally indicted by federal grand jury on June 27, 2007, and he was charged with conspiracy, money laundering, and filing false bankruptcy. Wow.

But he wasn't done hustling. Even though he was sentenced to jail, one of his plans, he said, look, how's this for an idea? I get special phone and internet privileges in jail, and I can make and sell a boy band from jail, and this can pay back my debts. The judge said, no. I can put together the jail boys. Yeah, the guy that's on next to me has got to grow boys.

Stupid, do you think I am? He was sentenced to 22 years in prison, but he only served eight years. Of course. Because he suffered a heart attack. Okay. And he died. August 19, 2016, while can't stop them feeling

by Justin Timberlake was number four on the Billboard charts. I really wanted to be number one. I wanted to be number one. It would have been so nice. It's in a, one of the no movies or smurf careers trolls. Yep. Which is why N Sync are back because because they got a song on the new trolls one okay great Yeah, they're back anyway. That is the story of the sixth member of the backstreet boys and Nsink That is an amazing story. That is so wild

What a wild but okay, I was thinking this recently what movie was I watching champions? It's relatively new Woody Harrelson. Oh, yes, he's a basketball coach basketball coach has a DIY and instead of prison he's offered prison or he has to coach a Community basketball team I coach two basketball teams. I coach and under 10s and under 14s. To say it's a punishment, I don't know, this movie stands up. Well, because yeah, it's because he thinks he's like, he should be in the NBA.

Yeah. So it is, it's a big downgrade. But it's that or prison. And he thinks about prison instead. Josh, if you thought about prison instead of coaching, I don't think I'd do very well in prison. But I don't think, when does that happen? I don't understand that trope in movies where it's like,

you can go to prison or go train at this gymnastics gym, that's stick it, that's a great film. But nothing in the rules of say dogs can't play basketball. That's, I always go back to that when you're like, the movie's actually hold up, you're bloody. That's true. That is a what, that's an amazing story. I knew none of that.

I don't think I even knew that NSYNC and Backstreet Boys were like purposefully made to be competitive to switch other. And it's so funny. So they had such a mark on the culture because MTV set up their total request live, TRL, just because of these boy bands,

because every day that have like just teenage girls out the front of the windows, MTV, just wanted to see if anyone was there. So they set up their whole, like this is the boy band. Wow. And the, or the pop songs, and they would get just hundreds of girls

every day screaming and going, sometimes they'll just scream at windows. There was no one here. We didn't have anyone.'ll just scream at windows. There was no one with the screaming at windows. I was about to say that sometimes I feel like I missed out on a quite a pivotal part of being a teenage girl at that time but I didn't scream at any windows. I don't feel too bad about it. But I missed a lot of that. Which is a little disappointing, but whatever. Hi, you missed that because this guy's obviously a creep,

a bad guy. Yes. But we have him to thank for the backstreet boys. And that's something. And Nsink. And Nsink, who I wasn't as in, but Justin Timberl, obviously, an incredible influential career on Paul. Yes, so I think Justin Timberl, I think,

things turning on him, I think there's a lot of stuff. So Britney Spears released her memoir and there's a lot of bad stuff about him being not the nicest to boyfriends. Senator Texta Dumpher, like, just said it's over with like three exclamation marks. I mean, in the memoir she did cheat on him with her choreographer, but apparently he had cheated on her with Nicole Appleton from the All Saints. Oh, wow. Yeah, no, he doesn't seem like the greatest person, but a huge career. Yep, huge, very important. He also bought my space when no one came.

That's true. I forgot about that. He bought my space. What is, is he still owner? I don't know. I reckon you could own it. If you wanted. I better put an offer in $5 a day. I also, I looked up Max Martin's, his billboard hot 100 number one singles. Yep. So baby one more time by Britney Spears. Wow. It's gonna be me by Insync.

I kiss to girl. That's that right, can you say it? It's gonna be me. Me. Dude, this is my thing, I found this out with my podcast. The reason that says me is Justin Timberlake recorded as it's gotta be me and Max Martin's like, no, no, you've gotta say may.

He goes, well, it just sounds, but trust me, because English not Max's first language. And he's like, no, this is how it works scientifically. This will be a hit. And there's a couple other songs that he's written where it's like gotta weed like may instead of me. And now it's just, now it's a meme. Yeah.

All because of Matt. I mean, if it's number one, you can't argue with it. There you go. I kissed a girl by Katy Perry. Yep. So what by pink, my life had stuck with that. You by Kelly Clarkson.

California girls by Katy Perry featuring Snoop Dogg. Another Katy Perry teenage dreams. Raise your glass by pink. There's so many. And last Friday night by Katy Perry. Wow, he did all the case. He's done a lot raw by Katy Perry. Shake it off by Taylor Swift, blank space by Taylor Swift.

Wow. Bad blood by Taylor Swift. Can't stop the feeling by Justin Timberlake. Blinding lights by the weekend. And maybe a tea is by the weekend. That's the nice play song everyone's Spotify, I think, yeah. Yeah, huge, absolutely. And like that's just, that's just the ones that have made

the number one single on the Billboard Hot 100. He's getting paid $45 a day, that's his per day. That's how it's really, it's really, it's a lot. He's really good. Not crazy though, but yeah, he's behind so much pop music. Yeah. Incredible stuff. What a story, I loved that.

What a C.I. I loved it too. So I heard that the, the, it's very short summary that Josh did when he was talking about the backstreet boys and n-sync one time, and I was like, that is an incredible story. And he spoke about the bit where the blimp's. The blimp. He said the blimp's out of the judge. And the judge with the poster on the wall being like, so if I can hold him for that, are you going to be there? Really? I use six members. Yeah. So good. So yeah, but there's so many great tidbits that you've brought up on 100% hits about pop music over the last 30 plus years.

So definitely worth checking out that back catalog and 4Bern is the new podcast. Yeah, check that out. Everywhere you get podcasts from, it's up there. And you can see some of them on YouTube as well if you want. Fantastic. Well, Josh, well, thank you so much. And can we find you anywhere else online? Just on Instagram, Mr. Josh Earl and Twitter if anyone ever uses that, but no.

But yeah, Instagram mainly. Mr. Josh Earl. But also, thank you so much to Josh and then we'll move on to our Patreon section. But Josh, wasn't absolutely pleasure. Pleasure, everyone. It's pleasure. What a pleasure.

We got so close and I said the last word right. Bye Josh. Bye. I am finding being alive, fascinating. Bye Josh! Bye! We must experience everything better than we can know the world. I only know the world, the world is ours. I must go punch that baby. Poor things. No playing in select feeders. This podcast is brought to you by Squarespace, the all-in-one website platform for entrepreneurs to stand out and succeed online.

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I can't remember the way. Yes, was I dead at the service episode? Probably You record it a little while ago while I was You recorded a little while ago while I was... about? You missed the great man, Joshua. You know you always matches his report. He's good. He came in and told us about the Wild Life and Story of the Lou Peelman who was the founding manager of both the Backstreet Boys and NSYNC.

Oh, the point. And he started out by being a blimp salesman. Yeah. This guy had a bit of a wild life. It was really, really wild and funny and then pretty crook. being a blimp salesman. Yeah, this guy had a bit of a wildlife. Yeah. It was really, really wild and funny and then pretty crook. Yeah, he really, he robbed them of a lot of money and then they tried, and then they successfully sued him.

Oh, good. But his claim was, no, I'm a member of the band. Yeah. He just believed he was one of them. Wait, you didn't know? He's just been adding his recordings to the back all time. Yeah, in the contractor panel, he was the sixth boy. And he was not a boy. He was not a boy.

So, but yeah, I'm very well taught by Josh, as always, is and we should say at the time, because we recorded a few weeks ago, Josh was about to start releasing four burners. He's a new podcast. It is out now. He's got a few episodes up. I listened to the first one just a couple of days ago with the great Jillian Cosgryff. A lot of fun. He just has a great interview where he talks about elements of their life, the foreburners, life, work, employment and health and just goes through them all and then talks about like, you know, if you had to turn a couple off to make the others

really explore what would you pick and it's fascinating. It's hard. Yeah, I, I'm talking to him. I'm like, oh, obviously you turn off and I'm like, oh, hang on. Yeah. You turn off family who needs it. Help who, who can help? Well, the one I was put into the back and then I'm like, oh, hang on, everything sucks if you don't know how. Yeah.

So, it's actually tricky. Yep. Oh, that's cool. Turn off work. Oh, no, no, I, I have no money. Now I can't afford health. Yeah. Turn off work, cool. Turn off work. Oh, no, no, I have no money. Now I can't afford health. Yeah. Turn off work.

We'll turn off the money. Turn off the money. Did that, Jess, with all that blimp talk, I imagine there was a few good year moments in there. No. You've moved on really, haven't you? I have no fun without you. I refuse.

I sit silently and every time then I lean forward like a, huh. And that's it. So, yeah, a bit of that's it. So yeah, a bit of a boring episode in terms of like if you're a big jazz fan, which I imagine there are a lot of people who are really only tuning in for Jess's fun quips. I know I definitely listen back and go, God, I'm fun. I definitely don't fucking hate myself. Yeah. Well, Jess, you know, most people only listen to this back end of the show anyway.

So, and now that I'm here, you're probably gonna be a whole lot of fun. Oh, I'm feeling lively. And this is the section to show where we thank some of our fantastic supporters, who support us on patreon.com. So I should do go on pod. And once you're on there, you can get all sorts of things

by supporting us, Jess, what are some of those? You can get access to bonus episodes, we do three bonus episodes a month. You get early access and discounts on tickets to live shows and live streams and all sorts of fun things that we do. You get access to our Facebook group, which is the friendliest corner of the internet.

And you can vote on the topics that we do as well so you can really impact the show. So much stuff. Yeah, it's honestly too much. It's almost too good value. Yeah, that would be the one knock on it. I think I'd be looking at it and I'd be like, I get all that for like $10. Yeah, it doesn't feel right. Doesn't feel right.

Doesn't feel right. I'm going to double. Yeah, I'm going to give them $20. Yeah. And even then, I'm like. I Yeah, I'm gonna give him 20 bucks. And even then, I'm, I'm like, I feel like I'm coming out on top still. I'm, this is Grand Theft Auto. Yeah, yeah. What does that mean?

It's still in the car. It's still in the car. That's what this feels like. I'm still in the car. Dave was doing something else and he came back into that point and he, I could see in his eyes that he wanted to jump in because he's like, what's going on?

I don't know what's happening. I looked away for one second and like, what's going on? I don't know what's happening. I looked away for one second and now they're looking at me. I don't know what to do. Sorry, everyone. I've just been in my email, I was booking a band for the Trittitch Club later on. Oh, fantastic. Just confirm that I've confirmed.

So I've got them. Okay, thank you. I got them. Dave, you want to explain the Sydney Sharnberg thing? Or do I do that? So the Sydney Sharnberg thing, if you're on that level or above, what's happened to jump in? But you, you get to give us a factor quarter of a question. In a section of the show, the way actually called factor quarter question, which has a jingle,

go something like this. Fash, quad all questions. B. It was rumours of the ding. Huh. Show us, remember the thing. And the ding. Cool. And the way this works is if you're on the Sydney Sean Brexit level, or above, you get to give us a factor quarter or question or a brag or a suggestion or really whatever you like. And you also get to give yourself a title. I don't write these out until I read them out on the show. Recipes. Yes.

Recipes. Yes, a piece. They've given it. Yeah, it can be anything you want to tell us. Jokes is one, yeah. Corrections. Corrections. No, I don't welcome those.

Suggestions. I keep myself awake at night as it is. I don't need corrections. Please be kind. Compliments would be welcome, I guess. Not creepy ones, you know. Not a vow of value, you know. But it wouldn't hurt.

It doesn't. Jeez, you give mixed messages on that one. Skidding the balance right. So I'm gonna give out, I'm gonna read out four of them right now. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is.

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I can curator of dog facts. Ooh, I wonder who we're gonna get a dog fact here. Of this fake out. I don't think I can handle that. Imagine if the camera's rolling here, Dave. Imagine how viral this bit could have gone. You couldn't just push a button, could you, Dave? We've started putting out videos.

Yeah, a little clips, you can see on Instagram, and on TikTok, give it a look. And the most popular one, only popular one so far was when we talked about Keith, the sausage dog. People love dog, dog chat. Oh, they love it. Oh, yeah, there's, we've put out quite a few clips now. I would argue way funnier and a better insight

into what this podcast is. But the Dash-Anne clip is just going gangbusters. Yes, unfortunately, I think we've got a few new followers too, waiting for the dog riffs. Yeah. I mean, we're about to do one, but unfortunately the cameras are not rolling, because Dave wouldn't push a frickin' button. Do you want to push it around now, too, guys?

This better be good, guys. No pressure, Dave. Dave, don't roll your chair over and push the button, Dave. We can't delete it once we start. Yeah, Dave, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Oh god. Oh boy. We are rolling. This is Dog Chat 101. Hit me with a fact, baby. Okay, hey, you say dash hand, and originally it was dachshund. Isn't that interesting? Wow. Do you think that could, I could go viral. We've also got a podcast, check it out.

So that was for the video, not for the podcast, but actually doing. All right, so Claire Norris has a fact for us, she writes. It's a dog fact. It's just a new second of the show. Dog fact. Hi, Al, having a young child who watches Bluey regularly, so much so he started adding Australian vernacular

into his language like Gray, No Mads, and Boot. It's Gray, No Mads, and Australian term. Right, is Boot in Australia? It's like Trump. It's like Trump., Mads in Australian term. Right, it's boot in Australia. It's like trunk. Oh, I thought shoes. I went straight to shoe. Wow, they don't have shoes in North America. They have them.

They just say column there. They got called toots. They call them G strings for the, or songs, I forget. She goes on. I thought I'd bring you a blueie inspired fact, although not directly about the cartoon, blueie and Australian cattle and Australian cattle. Blue. I should say reading isn't my forte. Blueie and Australian cattle was the previous Guinness World Record holder

for longest lived dog. I think there's I think just the word dog is missing. Yeah, it's a cattle dog. And that's got me. I've added it in now. We're not another good. There could have been some sort of misunderstanding where they thought that this cow was a dog. And they thought, well, maybe cows live longer than dogs.

And that's what happened here. They're like, this dog is so, this is the biggest dog in the world. No, that's what they were also confused by longest lived dog. They just met longest in length. And it's also a dog that lived. Yes. This cow is the longest lived dog.

Surely if it was the longest dog, it would be a dash out. Yes, that's true. Or a daxan. Or a daxan. Yes. Hashtag daxan. We've done all yet. We're trying so hard.

So it lived at lived an impressive 29 years. Oh, that's long for a dog. Yeah. That's so long. That's so long. The dogs live for three so far. Four for Humphrey. Yeah.

Yeah. So this is trying is old for a dog. Yeah, like we had we had a mud growing up. Yeah. That was 17 when it passed and people were like, 17 is straight. 10 is old for a dog. Yeah, like we had a month growing up. Yeah. That was 17 when it passed and people were like, 17 is insane. Right, so 29 is incredible. Yeah, that's freaking.

What's at seven is dog years? Yeah. So what's that Dave? 29 and sevens? 233? How's he doing that? You could say any number and I'd be like, yep, that's probably right. You could say six, and I'd be like, that makes sense.

So that is really... That is really... It's very old. I don't even think a human, since like the Bible has lived that long. And I... Oh, and may, of course. Yeah, yeah. Being your obviously-

Obviously, it's an exception. Anyway, Bluey was just passed this fall by a Portuguese dog, Bobby, who lived 31 years and is now the record holder. Wow. Streg I believe that there's been some controversy in the Bobby. Oh, okay. Some people saying, he's really that old. But I believe I'm a Bobby, I'm not a Bobby truth I'm a Bobby.

I, I'm with Dave Dave said this earlier. I went in and was talking about Bobby and I agree with him We should cut off one of its leg count the rings and um, you know, we need to find out It's the only way to know yeah, mm-hmm. I think I think Bobby would 31 years agreed to do that Don't you think Bobby would be like I I want the truth out there as much as you do? I honestly don't think goose would want to live for 31 years. Okay I don't think so. I mean French bulldogs 31 years. Okay. I don't think so. I mean, French bulldogs are so inbred that they can't live that long. No, absolutely not.

If we get like 8 to 10 out of him, it'll be a real miracle. Right. Yeah. Everyday's a blessing. Yeah. But a great three years so far. 31 years. That's crazy.

You've lived that long. Yeah, and I've hated every second of it. After about three years. That's crazy. You've lived that long. Yeah, and I've hated every second. After about three years. Yeah, I've hated it. You liked the first three. Well, I reckon maybe first six or seven. That'll seem pretty good. Yeah, went to Disneyland when I was eight. So maybe eight. Yeah, I think I had a privilege you were growing up. Yeah, somebody died and we had some inheritance instead of Cleared it my parents went to Disneyland. Was it a dog? Great choice. It wasn't a dog. It was a very old dog actually And your parents at that time I'm guessing were what 17 18 like That they must have been pretty young probably younger than you are now. Yes, wild think That your parents were once younger than you are now. It's crazy. I don't understand.

I don't get it at all. Anything. We're gonna get a fact check on that. Yeah, that one's not going viral. All right. Was that worth hitting the camera's full? No. We put too much pressure on it.

I have to just let things happen organically. Yeah. But if people want to start submitting dog stuff to the fact quarter question, we've got to get the dog, dogs into the podcast somehow, because that's our niche for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. We've developed it out. Eventually we're going to be dog gone.

Oh, maybe they're getting confused. That's why. Oh, it's dog gone. Dog gone. It's what they're thinking. Yeah. It's dog-oone actually, so they can't read. Mm.

Yeah. Because they're dogs. Yeah, they can't see. They can only see black and white. And what else? Can I tell you how long ago is in blue and yellow? I'll tell you a dog fact. Well, this made Michelle Brazil laugh the other day, so I see.

So just before we do it, Dave, sing the dog fact jingle. A dog dog wolf fact. Wolf! Thank you. Where's my name is the wolf? I had to leave the house the other day to drop off my card to get service. I was gone for like 15 minutes and I came back and Goose had weed and pood on a door mat by the balcony door. On a door man.

Door mat. I do Matt. And I. Matt. He is Matt and. On a door man. Door mat. On a door mat. And I, here's Matt and he thinks of a man, because he is not. Don't, don't me, don't me. But the door mafe. But then I, did you don't put one mafe?

But they didn't talk into people about this, I said. But he's the thing, I told him. I was only gonna be 15 minutes. But mafe. I told him, and then I go back to my side. Gets I told him, I was only gonna be 15 minutes. But mate. I told him, and then I'm back for a second. Guess I told you I'm going to be 15 minutes. And I was. Be sure?

15 minutes. I looked at the clock and went, I've been gone 15 minutes. See, that's more handsome. I told him. But sorry, Jess, that's an hour and 45 in W's. I had to go. Was eight o'clock in the morning. It was time.

So that's on me, that's my bad. You know, he has his very chain. I just can't, I can't reason with him, he's three now. Yeah, you know. What is the age of dog reason? I don't know, I think it's about seven in human, so he's probably. He's 21. Yeah, come on man.

Come on mate, you're a bit old to be pooping on the floor. Get a job. Goose. It's about time. Goose might know, tell you what. It suits him. He's a bloody, this girl's a bloody goose to be pooping on the floor. Get a job. Goose. It's about time. Goose point name. Tell you what. It's so Tim. He's a bloody, this guy's a bloody goose.

Let me tell you. Next one comes from Alex Dunhill. I can only hope this is another dog fact. Let's see. Alex has got the title of Chees Suggester. Ooh, I think I might know what Alex is gonna do with the rest of their fan-corder question. Chees.

That would be like, if I was really, really, really, really rich, like I'm talking the top 10 richest people on earth, and you know, you can have- That's very rich. You can have, yes. I would employ someone who would be my official cheese suggestion. I think they would have to work quite closely with your familiar. Yes. I'll dive before I get in this. can you do the chase suggestion, Jingle?

Would you like to, uh, I'd like to be. Geez. She always remembers the chase. All right, Alex. So you get to, when you submit these, you get, there's a drop down menu of if it's a fact-quot or question or whatever, or you can fill in your own. And in that one, they've written cheese. Yeah.

If their submission isn't about cheese, I will actually think this might be the funniest thing that's ever happened. Okay, well I'm afraid. It is about cheese. Great. Alex Rites, Bre. Next one. Love a break. Love it.

Great suggestion Alex, great. You've given yourself a fantastic role and you have got endless things to submit to the fact. Quite a question, which is fantastic. I look forward to the next month's suggestion. Yeah, can't wait. Alex, if I can request a suggestion, I'd love something in the hard cheese family. Okay. I'm not a much of a soft man. You're the hard man. You're a hard man. I'm a hard cheese man. I'm a hard man. You're a hard man. Yeah. You are a hard man to be around. Thank you Alex. Too much testosterone.

Constantly hard this time. So masculine. Oh god. To my chase. To my chase. I like my. Yeah, okay. I would love to know where that was going.

I was like, I like myself like I like my chase. I'd be funny if I said it. Like I love my chase. I like my men. Hard. I think I'd be funny if I said it. Like I love my cheese. How I like my men. Hard. Yeah. That works. That works.

That works. That works so well. That makes me cheese. Cheese. Next one comes from Chris Torres, a.k.a. official North Carolina, living in Ohio with family and Gary Indiana of the podcast. Wow. You were living the dream.

And Chris is offering us a fact running, oh, hang on, what's the, what's the jingle for North Carolina living in Ohio with family and Gary Indiana? North Carolina. Goldemail, Gary Indiana. Jing. She always remembers the Jing. Gold and mild, Gary and I. No. Jean. She always remembers the. Jean?

Honestly, like ticking it off. Possibly with the possible exception of Vermont, our three favorite places in America in one life. The golden mile. Can you believe it? With a hint of golden fact from North Carolina. And I finally ticked off one on that list. I've been a Gary, but I haven't still yet

to head to God's Country Ohio and Short's Country, North Carolina. So Chris has a fact riding. Hey gang, I'm back with another North Carolina fact. This one, Christmas themed. When's this episode coming out? It was a bit of a bad. Boxing day. Oh my god. Perfect timing. Is that right? Which would be Christmas for Northern Hammsfield? Yeah, true. True. I think. I believe this one is being released on the 20th, this five days to go everyone.

Merry Christmas. This one's going to be a Boxing Day. Fantastic. So. Perfect, so. Perfect timing then. Uh, hopefully Jess finds this one fun. Well, we'll wait and see. All the side. Uh, so, fact, the city of Rodenthe, North Carolina, with a soft hang on.

So, I've just getting pronunciation notes. Rodenthe with a soft, fur sound like the beginning of thought and made famous by the film Nights in Road and Thee. The City of Road and North Carolina celebrates two Christmases. Oh, well. I like this town already. Save some for the rest of it. It's a tradition dating back to 1752 when

Brits switched from the Julian to the Gregorian, my preferred calendar. Which calls 11 days to be dropped from each year. Hopefully this makes it in time for the Christmas episode. It didn't quite, but it made it in time for Christmas. Yeah, this is actually close to the Christmas and the Acro-Christmas episode. Yeah. And he says, their second Christmas, which is called Old Christmas, is on January the 6th. Oh, Old Christmas. Old Christmas.

Great. It's a weird, so there's like a couple of weeks in between. Mm. That's interesting. It is like, listen to Bill Brossons book about the secret history of Christmas. Does talk about how, around the secret history of Christmas. Let's talk about how around the Six of Christmas used to be the big celebration day, because that was the day that the...

Do you mean the Six of January? The Six of January. Oh my God, I'm so glad you're here. Because if you were strangers, they would just be sitting there going, What the fuck is the Six of Christmas? We'll call you a fucking T-face. Thank God for that. Oh, that's bad So you used to be celebrated a lot. Well, it used to be celebrated more Christmas day wasn't a celebrated as

January the six that was the 12th night Right, so there were 12 days of Christmas. Yes, sure And I think the 12th night I think that was when the Kings arrived with the frankincense and murs and the gifts So that used to be like the big but it, you know, it's evolved over time. Oh, you skipped over gold there. Mour and Frankincense. Yeah, the good stuff. Um, so, and this is, to the sixth of January, that is what, 11 days after Christmas, so

to the next check-out, because I cut 11 days. Yeah, that's right. Ah! Fun, great fact, Chris. Thank you. Sorry, you just said fun. No, I said, I said fun. Full stop. Ah. Fun, great fact, Chris, thank you. Sorry, you just said fun. No, I said fun, full stop. Yep.

Great fact, Chris. Did Chris write fun? No. So you said fun. I said that, I was saying that was fun. I didn't say it was a fact. I haven't looked it up. Do you think that was a fun fact?

It was okay. Hahaha. Actually, the math doesn't check that. It's 12 days after Christmas. Oh my god! 12th night. What do we literally, they've accidentally cut an extra day? I don't understand math.

So, those things are always confusing me when it could be one day different. I'm like, I'll just accept whatever they say. Because I always end up like, if I ask them, they explain. I'll be like, oh, yeah, I forgot to count zero. The last one this week comes from Mark when right now. And Mark's got the title of Tower Guard. Oh, that's great. We've had that tower spot with a loaded gun sitting there. Yeah, honestly, what's the point of a watch tower of no one's there? Yeah, watch.

Otherwise, it's tower. Yeah. What are they watching? Me, twirling in a paddock. Woo! Just having a good time. With a gun, try that new. Yeah.

They're watching you through a sight of a... And they're like, look at that guy. She's having so much fun. Uh, we got a question here. Um, do we do it quickly, Dave? I guess we got to complete the list. What's the Tower Guard jingle? Tower guard we need one upon our bang Sure as a member of the bang

And our Tower Guard Mark when that's a question writing What's an event that you know where you were when it happened? Oh, this podcast. I think you might mean big world event. Oh. It does answer the same question, writing. For me, I remember being at my summer job in high school roofing when over the radio, I heard Robin Williams adored. Oh.

Oh, interesting. I remember being in a niece backpacker hostel in Italy when Steve Irwin died. Right, we were in a U10 maths class, we all found out. That's Steve Irwin. Dave and I were both in maths. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know what I said, we. I was.

I imagine you meant you were some chumps. Some chumps. Some skull chumps. Oh, that reminds me, Dave, I forgot to say at the end of That great North Carolina fact signs up by saying Merry Christmas and books forever. Oh, it's nice. What was my heart books over? Yeah, I know where I was when Steve Irwin died also in a U10 classroom. Yeah What was the subject? No, I was in like a home room at the end of the day and people just checking their phones and stuff I'm like oh Steve Irwin Oh, I was like bullshit. I didn't believe him fake news. I didn't want to believe you believe them now I'm still not sure I remember

9-11 I was doing bench press with my mate James Mon It's just the weirdest break of all time. Yeah, what had about 9-11? I was bench pressing like 250 kilos, so... LAUGHTER LAUGHTER It's funny because the timing doesn't even work out. That's what I remember being aware of it. But it happened like early in the morning here and that was after school.

I'm like, did we just not get discussed all day. Did you just want to mention you went to the gym? one time This is last week He didn't know James Lamont to last week I introduced you. That's incredible. I did think it was gonna be funny, but I didn't think it was gonna hurt so much the laughter Yeah, so, uh, not eleven. I was popping, I... Yeah, but he wasn't even like I was at the gym, it was, I was bitch pressing.

So specific. I was at his house as well, you know. Oh my god, it's funny. I thought of what before, now I can't, but, ah, there. I must have mentioned it at school, though. I imagine it came up. Yeah, yeah We didn't watch TV in the morning, so I don't know. I might have missed it until well It was not worthy it was a no-worthy day to me because my parents were watching TV in the morning and that we didn't do that either And I walk into the room and I was like what's going on? You've got the TV on TV in that room. Oh my god Disney trip

TV in that room. It was so tiny What is this life you lived? I was I was in Queensland on a great five choir camp with my school chums Yeah, it was actually yeah, I think that pretty much tells a difference from me and Dave I was Pushing might like 10 15 kilos. Yeah, and he was going was pushing like 10-15 kilos. Yeah, and he was going, oh, I've been to cities. And I'm talking about 15 kilos, 8 charms. Wow.

And we also, because we were, it's not a lot, that's the joke. Fucking hell. Okay, mad at me, I'm the dude right at the pod. One thing I do, the rest. We had one is remembering, finally out about the death of Princess Diana. Oh, yeah. She was a few days after our birthdays, Jess. Right.

This is the 31st of August 1997 and I turned seven on the 28th. I just had a party. Obviously, I'd got a few gifts and I remember I was playing with my new Mr. Freeze toy for the Batman and Robin Hood movie. And that was the moment you regretted making that wish blown out of candles. You didn't think it could come true. That's true.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, but you know, you should be held accountable for your seven year old actions. I remember I was, I was watching the Saints beat what Adelaide did to the top of the ladder. Why are yours always breaks? The Braggs. I was watching.

Yeah, my team had just obviously just topped the ladder. I was bed-freshing heaps. I was dating so many women, I was driving my Lamborghini when I heard about the Hindenburg going down. Yeah, well, yeah, have I told that one before? I don't remember that one. I remember where I was for the Sydney 2000 Olympics. Ooh, yeah.

Because I wasn't in Sydney because I had chicken pox Oh, I don't know if they don't have to all be grim Yeah, it can be can be nice stuff It was grim because I got chicken pox didn't get to go. Oh, I was staying in Anglesy at the caravan park Oh, yeah, one of the caravan parks here remember we We went to the pub as a family to watch, was it Perkins versus Hackett? And Hackett, was that the one that Hackett beat Perkins?

No Perkins, was that his last win? Always bragging, I've year in Australian won. We get to, you're all ridiculous. He's doing a pub. I'm a little pub. Two Australian's. It's family.

Oh, we go. You're like good. I watched the opening, I've shown, I. I watched the opening. I'm sure I mentioned this on the opening ceremony episode, but I was a head in a bucket vomiting from extreme gastro for the whole opening ceremony. Oh.

Sorry, I remember that. My mom put little, we had like, like a platter of like nibbles and stuff. And she had like little mini sausage rolls and she put little Australian flakes in them. It was very cute. Your mom's a patriot. She always said that about her. Yeah flags in them. It was very cute. Yeah, mom's a patriot. She always said that about her.

That's very cute. That's a good question. That's a good question. That's a good question. I'm going to keep thinking about that. Oh, yeah. What's another big thing that's happened? I think that's it.

Nothing else has happened. What about when the marriage equality result came through, Australia? Oh, yeah was we're doing a shoot at the old strip those studios and we're all here checking our phones. I don't remember. I don't remember where I was. Probably not that important to you. No, no. I was like, take it or leave anyone I care about. That's right. That's right. I'm a monster. Dave, you'd remember? Well said, I don't remember. Oh yeah.

Actually, I can't remember where I was for that one. Okay. Well, there you go. Not all of us changed our Facebook profile pictures. Well, I saw it as my victory. Because I think the thing is now. I started the campaign there. I don't know if this makes things less. all of us changed our Facebook profile pictures. Well, I saw it as my victory. Because I think the thing is now. I started the campaign there.

I don't know if this makes things less like significant in your minds now, but a lot of it now is like, you remember looking it on your phone, and going, oh, yeah, yeah. Like seeing it on Instagram for some time. I do remember some things from our group chat when Shane Warn died. Oh, yep

That from Jess. Yeah, just message the group saying oh my god Shane Warn died and it pops up and you go like it hits you Cuz you go what what do you mean? Yeah, we've had a couple of this someone else another famous international like very famous person Past and the first person to tell me was you Jess. You've got your finger on the pulse man. Yeah, I'm on my phone too much. I brought her back to GrimThings. I'm on such a radio too much. Moving on to positive things with Dave.

Where's your back to death with you, Dave? Yeah. It's always death. Yeah, sorry about that. Live a little mate. Come on man. Come on man. What Jess isn't giving us positive news in the group chat?

Yeah, that's true. I remember where I was when Jess messaged that she got hit by a car. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I remember the marriage equality thing because I was with other people and we're all checking it together. Exactly, that makes it more of a moment. But if I was at home one afternoon, just on the couch, you know, or as the first thing you wake up and see on ABC and you use.com, you go, it's less significant.

There's something, there's a big correlation between like memories and novelty. So that's why I can't remember what I did through the day, like through all of our lockdowns and stuff, especially those early ones where you couldn't leave the house at all. I can't remember any of those days.

I remember when I was in, I was on the bench press. I was getting swole. For those who don't know what I look like, I'm a very skinny man. Very skinny man. Well, there are facts, quotes, and questions from this week. Thank you so much to Mark, Chris, Alex and Claire. I should say I'm also quite fat in the guts. That's a great combo. Fat in the guts. Skinny arms, chunky gut. So it's a pretty hot combo.

All right. The next thing we like to do is think of your words of fantastic supporters. Jess normally comes up with a game based on the topic at hand. Yes, and you won't believe it, but I, because I thought this has been about a couple of like big bands, but with potentially strange names, you know, NSYNC is an odd kind of band name. I have found a band name generator. Right.

She's done it again. You know I love a generator. So I'm going to give these people a band name. I'm so stoked for that. Is that okay? All right, David, let's go on for one then. Yeah, my name's Anna. All right, well I'll kick us off if I may.

And I'd love to thank from Canberra. Oh, beautiful Canberra, Australia's capital city. I'd love to thank Anastasia Paris. Oh, wow. Good luck beating that, Jess. Anastasia is the bassist for global between addiction I think yeah, I'm not sure if you're is your generated doing okay. Yeah, that sounds like it's tripping out No, I think it's great. Yeah, that's great. Good global global between addiction

You know, well band-a-sounds silly when you're not used to Yeah, but then you showed it to GBA Exactly if I was on triple J and I was like hey, that was global But we had a diction Here's flume, you know, you wouldn't think anything of it. Yeah, true Just because it's the first time you're hearing it. Yeah, silly, but actually it's a very cool band and Anastasia's a very cool basis Very cool. Very cool. They're cool always the coolest member of the band. Yeah, they're gonna go Absolutely It's very cool. It's very cool. It's a cool, always the coolest member of the band. Yeah. Don't you reckon Dave? Absolutely.

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Yeah, yeah. Luminary of the Freaky? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Luminary of the freaky. Yeah. I am the luminary of the freaky. That is so good and bad. I love it. Incredible. Well played, Jess.

Thank you. You've done it again. Thank you. Can I go again? Yes. Oh, thank God. Then I would love to thank from Watan Under Edge in GLAAA-GLS. Oh, thank God. Then I would love to thank from what an underage in

GLS. It's got to be Glasgow, right? I'm thinking in in Great Britain. I'd love to thank Charlie Lenden because it could be Glastashe or something. And his glosseshe is so sorry everyone. Dave, I think so the English people are going to be furious at the last to show.

So yes, no, I did not the English people are gonna be furious at the show. It's a jubilee, it's a show. Sorry. Sorry, yes, no, I did not say that. Who was it? Who was it from Gloucestershire, please? Of course, it was Charlie Lenden. Charlie Lenden. And Charlie is the actually lead singer of Mouthy Obsidian. That is... Each one has been better than the last I agree

Malthy Obsidian. Well, that's like what new metal Yeah, I think that might be new metal. Yeah, yeah Matthew city are they all bass players for these bands? No, I've literally said what instrument they play each time Oh, what is this got it? Slid singer. Okay. Sorry. Do you want me to listen to the word you say? I would hurt what it I'll try I'm hearing a prime one, man. Yeah. And that's on me and my annunciation. Yeah. Dave, how about you? I would like to thank from the location I've known to us, probably deep within the fortress of the malls, Jenny Parmata. Wow, Jenny Parmata.

I have accidentally pressed a button. Okay. Jenny is a... I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it.

I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I have accidentally pressed a button. Okay. Jenny is, uh, yes, is a keyboard. Oh, yeah, I love the keyboards. In Gladiator till Clorox. Like everyone has two, one or two real words and then one gibberish word or probably a real word that I just have known before. You don't know chlorox.

Oh no, that's a clean question. Oh you don't know gladiator. Was it till? That was till. Oh my god, it's so stupid. Gladiator till chlorox. Yeah. There's another heavy band.

Yeah. Yeah, a lot of these feel quite heavy. That's a metal, that's a metal band. Yeah, but with the beautiful, like sort of synthesizer of strings. Yeah, yeah. Which is what Jenny's role is. And then logo, you cannot understand what the words are. I love when you see a poster for a metal festival and you're like,

I can't read any of these words. Well, I'm squinting. And it's not open. Please imagine, guys. Next up, I'd love to thank from Webster Groves. Could be a band name in itself, from MO in the United States. What's that, Mizzura? Montana, Mizzura.

I think it's Mizzura. Sarah, Feld Housen, Steely. Oh my God, good luck beating that name. Sarah Feld Housen, Steely. I can't believe it. Yeah, that's so good. It is Mizzura. This band has two sort of main singers, Sarah's one of them, and the band is called Deviated

Sidewalk. That's fun. That one I can picture that, that seems to make some sense. Deviated sidewalk. What is that like, more like a 90s rock act? Yeah. Yeah. Because I thought of pavement, that's why I'm thinking that.

I don't know, concrete blonde. I can't because I thought of pavement that's why I'm I don't know it can't create blonde they I go Is that them that's for non blonde non blonde another great act great act But still Diviated sidewalk I'd be behind their debut AP. Yeah, I'm pre-purchasing it right now on vinyl. Vo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o And great, an underrated instrument. In barely royalty with the sacred enthusiast. And I do not want any commentary on those things. I just can't believe that AI is coming for our job.

And it's clear to me today that I'm like, well, you know, what can we do? Let's roll over and let them take it. Exactly. How do they do it? Isn't like post-molonal someone like that, their name is just a random generator. That's how they got it. Like how did they get it? Like a, I guess that sounds. I think they probably went through quite a few options.

Yeah. And that probably when when he said it out loud, he's friends with that's dumb. Yeah. It's just you just used to it. Okay. But I wasn't going to say it's the best name, but it just seems slightly better than... Yeah, I never questioned that as a weird name or I can first summerhood it. I remember I was on the bench press and I was like, that sounds like a great name. It's pumping on the name. Time for another set. That's a life line.

You're right. The more you hear the name, the more you go. Okay. Is it up to me, Dave? Absolutely. Well, I'd love to thank from Worcester in Great Britain. It's Jack Chamberlain. Jack Chamberlain. I know you could set your watch to another drummer. And this one is arrow emerald and the observer. They just go on for too much, but somehow landing it. Yeah. For me, that's it. You're like you're

being so ambitious. It's too much. Actually, it's just enough I mean? For me, that's not... You're like, you're being so ambitious. It's too much, actually. It's just enough. You've nailed that. For me, that sounds like a duo, where the singer is Aero Emerald and then Jack Chamberlain is the observer.

Yeah, right. But the back, bashing away on the drums. But there's just two of them. Yeah, I love that. And people always say when they say me, like, can you believe that this two pieces generating such a big sound?

Yeah, so it's been a while to say about two piece rock bands. How do they produce such a big sound? I've got a couple of shorter ones coming up for you. So is that helps? Okay, great. Well, I'd like to thank from Kill Kenny also in Ireland. And this is this sounds like a band name. Ginger animator. Oh yeah. Ginger animator is another bass player for shouting lump. Oh that might be my favorite so far.

Shouting lump, that's great. That's a punk band. Yeah. That's a great shout-out. Shouting lump. Yeah. I love the lump. One, two, three, four. How you gonna see the lump on Friday? Oh my god. And finally from me, I'd love to thank from only hunger in Auckland, New Zealand. It's Jenna Brocheck. Jenna Brocheck is what instrument is Jenna? Sacks. Great instrument. In burned pee.

P-E-A. Burnt pee. Burnt pee. Yeah. It's hard to burned P. Yeah. It's hard to burn a P. Yeah. I know what you'd normally say burnt P.

Burned. Burned P. Yeah. And easy. Just pull over a fire. It's a burned P. Yeah. Burned P.

So I like a name that makes you think. Yeah. And you have a discussion. Yeah. It tells a story, but it also asks questions, as well as making a statement. Yes, it does it all Yeah, and that's hard to do in two short words. Yeah. Oh my goodness. It's crazy All right. Well, thank you so much to Jenna ginger Jack Becker Sarah Jenny Jordan Charlie and Anastasia And I was almost trapped in that forever

Anastasia Anastasia Paris. I mean what a what a list of names today. I think we're what a list of bands No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, very, very IP. Yes. Sorry, we're running in the time. I'm gonna shorten that a little bit. Mm. So the way we, the way this works is, there's a bit of fear of the mind. We've got a problem. Daddy, you are very funny. Thank you. I'll give you another credit.

Oh, have you said that? Fairly often. But like, always in a surprise way. Yeah, and in a surprise surprise, it's like a backhand. Yeah, like, wow. You're quite funny. You're quite you. Yeah, and then you're gonna surprise, it's like a backhand. Yeah, like wow. You look quite funny. You look quite cool.

Yeah. It's very similar to that one. I'm not believe it'll cool you all. Yeah. So yeah, a bit of the theorem on, there's a club and once you're inducted into it, you can't leave, which is a good thing. Yeah, you might want to.

And yeah, you can make yourselves at home. To get in there, you just have to be on the shout out level or above for three straight years, then you're in the trip-ditch club. Uh, we know it's pronounced trip-dick, but we have a funny little twist on it here. Obviously, this is the only way we were able to copy right and trademark the name.

Yep. Even though we spelled the same. And um, it was a, it was a court case. Jess is behind the bar. So if you want to drink, go to her. She's got a special new drink and all the other drinks she's ever come up with are still available. But what do you got this week, Jess?

I've got beer. Beer fantastic. Wow. That's great. I love beer. A few different ones. Oh yeah. There's like a cold one and a warm one.

I got one. This one. I'm going to be way too hot. Who has hot beer? Jess, have you come up with a new thing? I thought it could be like a, that is way too hot. Who has hot beer? Yes, have you come up with a new thing? I thought it could be like a mulled wine type thing, but it's really bad, guys. Oh no. Don't drink and it's so bad.

He won't please stop using that stove. It's scalding. There's something wrong with that stove, Jess. Oh, sorry. Just look, take it off the stove, it'll cool down. It won't. Dave, you know we book a band for the after party? Yes, I've reached out to every member of NSYNC, every member of Backtreat was including

Lou Perlman, their manager. He didn't write back, I'm surprised. Did he die? Yes. But the only one to get back to me, and God bless them. Kevin Richardson from the Backstreet Boys is here. Oh, he's not a known one. Kevin.

Kevin, that's all the one. Man, I like Kevin the name. What's his full name? Kevin Richardson, if you just type in Kevin Backstreet Boys. Is he the one who dated, did he date, Britney Spears for a bit or something? No, that's... Oh, no, I recognize this guy. Yeah, that's a good get

He's got that great 90s hot top gody loves that. He's also done a bit of modeling work So good for him not surprised. Good for him. All right Dave you're on the stage. You're emceeing the show You're hyping everyone up absolutely every member of the trip to each club has been working from this summer They're there channing along to the new inductees name just one this week chant chant chant they're just warming up with a generic chant and Jess also sort of like I give him a little pattern of arm I say you you're funny because he's because he does quite weak word plays is the pun master let's see what he does here here we go up. Either based on the name or where they're from. Here we go.

Sometimes neither. From Oram in Utah. A lot to work with here. In the United States, it's Colin J. Wright. Look, I don't wanna be Colin J. Wrong. I wanna be Colin J. Wright. Woo! Yeah!

Come on in, Colin. Jesus, how did he find that? You found a little diamond in the rough there. I'm like, it's not a lot to work with here, but somehow you'd made the name right with a W into the word right with an R. Oh my God. How does he do it?

Home of phone, King. All right, welcome in, Colin. Make yourself at home, please. Grab a beer. Just be wary of that popping hot one. Don't have the really hot one, yeah. Sorry again. It's only the else we need to tell people before we go Jess.

Just that we love them so much, we value them as people. Oh yeah. And that if you come across a story and you think that'll make a good do-go-on, well you can bloody suggest it. You don't have to be a patron to do so, anybody can. Can I just say that I suggested this week's one because I heard Josh mention a very small version of the Lou Perlman story, like a couple of sentences on his 100% hits-folly-and-pod

podcast. And I saw him a couple of days later and I was like, dude, you got to tell us about that in detail. So it's that easy. Did he say that? Did he say who it was suggested by in the episode? He didn't mention me. That's brutal. Maybe I think I mentioned it. Yeah, of course he brought yourself up. Of course I did. Well, no one ever comments about how funny I am.

Yeah. So even a strange little weirdo can suggest a topic. But my point is, you can't say something. You can't say something. You go, that's interesting. Let's get to the one to talk about. Yeah, let's know. I remember where I was when I heard that Joshua episode actually.

That was actually on the leg press. It's gonna be leg day as well. Yeah, never skip leg day and I'll look it in for once. Buying you Lee. Yes. I have leg day and I never skip it. Never skip it. Never skip it.

That's important. But yeah, you can suggest a topic. There's a link in the show notes and also on our website which is do go on pod.com. You can find us on social media at dogoonpod, or do go on podcast on TikTok, and that's it. That's all she wrote. That's it. That's it.

All right, move on. I'm done. Bye you. Dave at Jave. Jave. That's what I call you to, boots baby home. Hey, second last episode of the year down, we've got one more comment, but don't worry,

we're not taking a break in January, the episode will keep coming, but thank you so much for listening. Have a great Christmas, if that's something you celebrate in this weekend, but until then, also thank you so much for listening, and goodbye! Bye!

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