Two In The Think Tank - 427 - Josephine Baker : The Showgirl Spy

Episode Date: December 27, 2023

On this epsiode we learn about the fascinating life of Josephine Baker - singer, dancer, actress and ... spy. This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 07:37 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.thenation.com/article/world/josephine-baker-france-racism/https://www.biography.com/performer/josephine-bakerhttps://www.miaminewtimes.com/arts/ten-things-you-didnt-know-about-josephine-baker-6485580https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/siren-resistance-artistry-and-espionage-josephine-bakerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephine_Baker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hello Dave. Hey Dave, hey Jess, hey quick question, how good is it to be alive? Well personally Matt, I wish I was never born. Oh, that's a bit rough. Coming to the end of this fine year of 2023, I think a lot of people are saying another great one. One of the best we didn't think you could get better, but year on year it does. Yeah, we're just on a hot street way. I start every year feeling a little glum, because I think, well, bloody, here we go. How do we top that? I've had the best year of my life and then time after time. Don't worry I think you've had the best year of your life. I think the world's had the best year of life

Yes, just go and constrict the strength. Yeah, I haven't had to feel any kind of guilt or shame about how much I've been crushing it Because so is everybody else. Yeah, you know, it's hard to just continue to succeed when everybody else is suffering But um, it's been really easy. Yeah, it's hard to just continue to succeed when everybody else is suffering, but it's been really easy. It's been a beautiful time. And I'm sad there's only a few days left in this miraculous year. One of my best. But don't worry, 2024, that's where it's gonna be.

What do you think? It can't possibly get better than this. Even better, that's right. We're raising the bar every year. Wow, that's exciting. Both for the show and for humanity. It's a huge claim. Now I'm feeling a little anxious.

Well, I'd love just now that you are feeling anxious to throw something more on your plate. Can you explain how the show works? Absolutely. Each week, one of the three of us researchers, the topic usually suggested to us by our wonderful listeners. We go away. We learn all about it.

We come back. We tell the other two who very politely listen, who never interrupt with dog shit riffs, and who just, you know, all around have a really respectful and polite time. Yeah, I'm ready to be polite. Matt, you ready to be polite? I was born ready to be polite. And it's just any day now, he'll do it.

And we do usually start with a question. It's your turn. It's my turn. I have a question for you. It's a two-part question, okay? Because I'm going to help, I don't think. It's my turn. I have a question for you. It's a two-part question, okay? Because I'm going to help, I don't think you know this topic, so I'm going to help you build it.

Two points over grams. Sure. Great. So, first part to help you piece this together. So, we're going for two names. So, we're trying to figure out the name of this person, right? Firstly, what was the name of one of Charlie Chaplin's daughters? Oh, okay.

Just go for old Tommy names. Glenda. Not Glenda. Wrenavive. Nope. Mary. No. John Maryland.

No. Grace. That's pretty good. No, that's kind of old Tommy. Comprin. Oh, no, but in the right kind of wheelhouse, I feel. As in names. It is a name.

It is a name. It is not Edna. Mavis. It starts with a J. Janus. Gillian. No. Jill. No. Junk. Longer name. Oh, Jineen. Jacqueline. No, no, no. Jezebel. Genovies. No, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't have a Genovie if you had a... Jilbit. Geraldine.ine. But... Geraldine with a J. No, no, no, no. Okay. I'm just saying. I think Eain as well.

Ah, Justine. No. Janine-in. Janine? Not Janine-in. Janine-in. Oh my god, this must be really brutal, listen to it. Okay, okay, okay.

What do you mean Charlie, Chapel Man, Janine-in. Hang on, hang on. So, Joseph... Eain. Yes. Joseph Eain. Joseph Eain. Joseph Eain. Joseph Eain. So, Joseph. Een. Yes. Josephine. Josephine. Is it Josephine or is it Een?

It's Josephine. Okay, it's just Een. So, Josephine. I meant to say Jesus Mary and to get you to get to Joseph. And then I just said Joseph. So, I helped you out a little bit there, but Josephine is correct. Second part, and probably, God, hopefully easier.

What is the job title of a person who starts work very early? Baker. Yes. Can I read the rest? Sure. And his response was for making bread, cakes, slasses, scrolls, and other assorted treats. Oh, yeah. I spent ages writing that. Baker. Baker is correct. Josephine Baker is correct. David Point there for piecing it together so bravely. Thank you. Is that a name that rings any bells for you at all? Yeah. Really? A bit.

Possibly because I put her up for the vote before. Right, yeah, one of those. Doesn't ring any bells for me unless related to Julian Baker, the musician. No. Okay. So, it doesn't ring a bell for you then by the sounds of it. And it's not a surprise that you've put this up to the vote

because it's been suggested by so many people. Yeah, I think that's why I've seen the name pop in that suggestion hat. So I will read those names to you now because again, there's heaps of them. So, Do you need us to guess the names? Yes. So South of the next. Xavier. Xavier from Quebec. Sala phone. Oh. Ky from Eldridge, Tom Rock from London, Zoe from the New South Wales Central Coast, Shavon Russell from Cedar Creek in Queensland, Lucas Bender from Germany, Hannah Lang from Washington, DC, Colleen from Brisbane, Adriana from Virginia, David Glue from Endeavour Hills,

Jack Barrett from Melbourne, Olivia Gatliffe from London, Alec McElroy from Kansas, Daniel English from Sydney, Josh Harmon from Garland, Texas, Brodrick Henry from Lexington, Baton from Fantry Gully, Adam Legg from Derby and Ashley F from Virginia. Quite a lot of people. Yes, were you just reading from the phone book to say? Yes. Baden from Fentry Gully made you laugh for some reason. Yeah, don't know.

Nothing else to on before. Oh no, it was. Broadway canary from Lexington. No, it was glue. Oh yeah, you'd love it. Oh yeah, you'd love it. Oh yeah, you'd love it. Oh yeah, you'd love it.

Oh yeah, you'd love it. You did love David Glue. I'm obsessed lately. We've had David Zest. Yes. He's a name that I was obsessed with. And a few weeks ago, we had a patron supporter, whose name was David Coupé. Yes. And now we've got that.

Right, no more to pay. And David Gloo. I'm just trying to think of ways I can make my name better. And there's three options right there. Right there, but they already exist. Yeah, but I'm gonna. Oh, not if you kill them. And then put them in.

And then take their identity. Yeah. Okay, so figure out which one of them has a cooler identity. Oh, I think David coupé. I was gonna say there's no, I don't think David Glue can compete with David coupé. What if David Glue's like a multi-millionaire? That's true. Maybe invented Glue. Maybe invented Glue. Maybe a flanderer. GLEW. So who knows? Wow, I can't even spell. It's exciting. So yeah, this is a story of Josephine Baker. One person kind of in their suggestion had like the, I don't know, this could be the title maybe, but Josephine Baker, the showgirl spy. Love it. If that sells it to you a little bit. We're in. Earlier this year we had a princess spy, I know I've got a showgirl spy. Love it. If that sells it to you a little bit.

We're in. Earlier this year we had a princess spy. I know I'm gonna show girl spy, this is very good. Yeah, it's great. We love women who spy. Yeah, we do, we actually do. So. It's just like a, another way of saying aavesdropper.

And gossip. It's better than saying, oh, she was a gossip. But essentially. No, no, she was a spy. She's a spy. Wait for the government. Gathering intel.

Yeah. Through gossip. Gathering you down. Did you see what Christine was wearing? And the government are like, this isn't helpful to us. This isn't relevant to the law. Okay, that's a whole section of our part that now doesn't need to be said. She's aged.

Yes. That's all stuff. Oh, oh, oh, Jesus. No, that's not. Yes. That's all stuff. That's all. Oh. Oh, Jesus. No. That's not a shame. Don't be a little bit. Trouble in paradise of her.

That jacket's from three years ago. Oh. Anyway, so Frida Josephine McDonald was born on June 3rd, 1906 in St. Louis, Missouri. I can't make, there's a St. Louis and a St. Louis. I'm pretty sure the Missouri one is St. Louis. I think that's in Louis, right? Like a spirit of St. Louis, Missouri. I can't make, there's a St. Louis and a St. Louis. I'm pretty sure the Missouri one is St. Louis. I do not think that's a St. Louis, right? Like the spirit of St. Louis.

Yes. That's a plane. Yes. Not St. Louis. The theory's a St. Louis. I'm pretty sure. Anyway, we're gonna say St. Louis for this one. It doesn't come up that much,

but that's where she was born. She was raised by her mother Carrie, but the identity of her biological father has been disputed over the years. All right. I'm willing to put my hand up of now. Yeah, I get it. That's what you've brought me here for today.

It was me. Wow. That was easy. You really are old. I thought I'd have to go through the whole thing, but, um, yeah, no, got him. You're going to go through and shame me. Yeah. I'm sorry.

I just keep bringing up how good it would have been if she had her father in her life. Wow. This really sad thing happened. I could have been prevented if her dad was there, but it wasn't in the right headspace. Taking you a century to 1906. How old were you in 1906? I was, you know, still it was just a young buck of, you know, three, four hundred years old. I forget. Yeah, it's tough. You lose count. Yeah, I was born before Abacus. And everybody put yourself in in Matt's shoes. Think of when you were three or four hundred years old. Well, no, I was three or four hundred before shoes. Put yourself in my

clogs, sandals. Put yourself in my buffet. Yes. Do you think sandals came before shoes? Didn't they? Like I'm thinking like Jesus sort of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But wearing like like some business shoes. Yeah, I think it's funny that you go, that's not shoes. That's not shoes.

That's not shoes. Why I think of a shoe as like a, you know, a covered toe. Yeah. I mean, in the added S episode a few months ago, we did discover that they only had running shoes about a hundred years ago before that, we're running in Loves of Bread. So, it's true. So.

Bakers for a Valkyrie. Back to Baker. Beautiful segue. Some sources say that Vorderville drummer Eddie Carson was her biological father while there's discats. Carson. As fridges as a, that's a bag of peas. It's stillidges as a that's a bag of peas

You might be thinking of a bag of fresh peas No, I'm talking about ones have been and deepen the freezer What was his name again Eddie Carson? Yeah, I doubt I even had a Pina I Dad even had one wouldn't have known what to do with it. The man was as frigid as a North Pole. I didn't have a pole, so I was, I know. Well, Matt is one of the many who disputed this and claimed that her father was a white man,

actually, was what a lot of people said. Yeah, it doesn't get much wider than me. I'm a pale man. You are. Get some sun, Jesus. Ah, yeah, that's not good for me either. No, it's really no winning, is it? No.

Get spray turn though, because it is glimmering. I'm all right, okay. Yeah. So yeah, that's the probably the happy medium. Yes. See, I made the really pale and off-putting to you. Yes. Or I get cancer and die.

But that wouldn't at least not be off-putting to you. I'm gonna do another big cast. That would have no impact to my life. You're like, oh, but he died with a beautiful glow. But he looked healthy for the first time. Academic Bonita Jules Rosette, an amazing name, author of Josephine Baker in Art and Life, wrote about the difficulty of establishing the truth of Baker's early life, given the factual and counterfactual re-workings of her numerous biographers, and Baker's own numerous and often contradictory re-working

of the story, which frequently lacked coherence. So it's one of those things of like, we're not really sure because she said a bunch of different stuff and every biographer has a different theory, so we're not really sure because she said a bunch of different stuff and every biographer has a different theory so we're not really sure but regardless. Young Josephine spent her early years in the St. Louis neighborhood of Chestnut Valley which is quite a cute name and sounds like a farming video game I would play. It does sound like something you'd love. I would love that. Stardew Valley Chestnut Valley, like I would play the shit out of that. Isn't that where Brennan Fraser's not job was set? That was, chest. It was chest something.

It was, yeah, it was set in the chest. It was set in the chest in the heart. If you zoomed out, the whole thing took part on a chest. It's really beautiful. A beautiful chest, yes. So it sounds really cute and wholesome, but at the time was a low income neighborhood

consisting mainly of boarding houses, brothels, and apartments with no indoor plumbing. So sort of a roughish kind of area. I've just looked up the render frozen movie. It's set in Oketan. Oh, good. And I was like, yeah, but it was chess. I'm sure of it. Oak trees have chestnuts, right?

Yeah, yeah. Or is that a chestnut tree has chestnuts, probably. Oak tree has oak nuts, you idiot. Come on mate. Gee, so we all know that. God you're embarrassing. So her mother Carrie married Arthur Martin who was described as a kind but perpetually unemployed man. Arthur Martin, that's funny. Arthur Martin. But I call him Arty Marty. Arty Marty. That's good.

I'd give him Marty, Marty, a job. But not many people did. Yeah, because he didn't rebrand. Or he would get a job and then not have a job. Okay. But so her mother, Carrie, had a son and two more daughters with Marty, Marty. To make ends meet, Carrie took in laundry to wash,

to make some money. And at only eight years old, Josephine was sent out to work as a maid for white families. At eight. A bit late. A bit late. A bit late. Go study.

I thought the woods was hitting golf balls at the age of three. You think you're going to give them a tub like I am? You think you've been a maid world? You think you're the number one maid ever? At setting an eight. Good luck, grandma. I never thought about it like that. I just thought, wow, that's awful, but you're right.

Yeah, yeah, awfully late. Awfully late. Apparently, one woman burned Josephine's hand as a punishment after Josephine used too much soap in the laundry. Oh, too much soap. Yeah. We gotta let you gotta leave him wanting more. It's too soapy in the laundry. Oh. Too much soap. Yeah. We gotta let, you gotta leave them wanting more. It's like soapy.

My clothes are too clean. Yeah. I smell too fresh. Yeah. They're not gonna want to come back for weeks now. I don't think I was making my own school lunches at eight. Let alone doing laundry. Right.

You know? Yeah, no, eight. What's that grade? Three, two, two or three? Yeah. Yeah, I definitely wasn't. No. I was cooking my own dinner at eight. Yeah, I was so bang my own flambards So bang yeah, I guess okay, but I don't think you saw my flambard I guess, but I don't think you saw by a flambad. Damn sequestria. But do you flambay a soba?

Yes, that would have been more so. That's what you said. Back to front. Tell me the problem. You couldn't even have a single food. Try now. There's a crumble. A crumble.

Sure, an apple crumble. Apple crumble. Sure. An apple crumble. Apple crumble. Yeah. I often get that there's a dessert confused as well. So that's fine. It's tricky. One S. Has it ever meant so much? I don't know about that.

Anyway, so it sounds like she was working and attending school for a few years, which is wild. But by 12, she dropped out of school and at 13 was working as a waitress at the old chauffeur's club and busking on street corners for extra money. At times, she lived on the street, sleeping in cardboard shelters and scavenging for food from garbage cans. I don't know, I don't know what was happening at home in that time, but what was the what kind of busking was she doing like dancing? Oh dance busking yeah, and what what year are we talking about? It's like the early

1900 she's born in 1906 Dancing back there. What are we after the 20s now if it's if she's 13? It's probably bulldozing. Yeah, I. She's doing ballroom dancing with a broom. I don't know if this is happening all over Melbourne, but there's two intersections that I drive through every day where people have started juggling every single day. Jumping at the lights. At the lights. At the first day, I was like, that was fantastic.

Here's some money. But I can't afford to pay every day because I go through it Four times you can't afford to pay a couple of bucks every day to a juggler But I want a way to be more memorable so they remember this guy's already paid oh That should get you multiple days of juggling. Yeah, well, I mean, to be honest, I don't need any days of juggling. I think what you need to do to be memorable is you either you need to get out of the car and start juggling to. Yeah. Okay. I'll pay you in kind of juggling. A juggling takeover. Yeah. No, takeover, just like a momentary juggling, ju-ess. Oh, or I say, and then you're back at the car I say you take five I've got a buddy. Yeah, yeah, have a round

I'll pay you a big cash. Yeah, but I pay it for him. Oh, okay. What I I think you need a way like Because the old version of that was weapony windows and clean your windows Yeah, I see what you just give her that arm okay Thanks if you if you don't need it. So they start juggling You're okay. Thanks. No no juggling for me. I'm good to that Thank you, though. No, no juggling for me. I'm good. Just do that. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Thank you, though. No, all good. Because then, did they come to your window?

With a hat. Jesus Christ. Tipped out and I just have to do, oh, I'm fiddling with my radio again. Sorry, I didn't say it. But who has cash? Yeah, that's the thing. They've got a QR code.

They die. Yeah, QR code. I'm not doing that. I'm not getting my phone out while I'm driving. That's unsightly. You gotta scan it, log on to their PayPal. No. Transfer the lights to the last, obviously, that one.

No, that's unsightly. I've already seen a juggling show. Dave, I think you've gotta go get some coins out, so you're just ready for the juggler. And be prepared when you go and get some coins out because I have to do that fairly regularly. They will say, oh, laundry day, is it? And I go, yeah.

No, I'm just a drunk, pasta juggler. Now you can say that too. Yes, go, yeah. No, I'm busy. Trump has a juggernaut. Now you can say that too. Yes, I said no. No, Trump has a juggernaut. Yeah, I love that even more. Oh, juggling day. Well, they up to clubs, yeah. Beautiful.

Wow. What fun must be to work in a bank? What working in clubs? Do you say many jugglers in clubs? Yeah, club juggling. What are we doing? Jess, please, they go on. So she's this is how we this is we got here from Dancing Street Dancing. Busting. She's busking. Around this

time she met Willie Wells at the old chauffeur's club and married him soon after. Okay, she's 13. Oh, how old's Willie Wells? I'm sure but I have the old chauffeur's club as well. This is like a club for retired chauffeurs. I. He's from the old Shofas Club as well. This is like a club for retired Shofas. I don't know what the old Shofas Club is. And you remember like Shofas on movies, it was really old anyway.

So you had to retire, you'd have to be like a hundred. Yeah, that's quite a gap. A hundred-year-old no-go-thirteen. Yeah, I can't spell Shofas. What were they even talk about? Shofas Club, I couldn't figure out how to spell Shofa. Don't worry about it. Anyway, it was some sort of club. He's probably older and it's a bit sus. Yeah, she's 13. The marriage lasted less than a year

and she was divorced by 14 years old. Oh, yeah, what do I live? From this website I found called wikipedia.ch, which is like a it's all about like movie stars and oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah second husband, William Howard Baker, whom she married in 1921 at the age of 15. Wow, second William and two years. Yeah, William Howard Baker. She left him when her Vortivell troop was booked into a New York City venue and divorced in 1925. It was during this time she began to see significant career success and she continued to use his last name professionally for the rest of her life. So the surname Baker came from a brief marriage when she was 15. Right. And she just kept that name forever.

So she's been briefly married at 13 and 15. Yeah. She's already, she's been divorced twice. She's, Dave loves a world record. She's, world record pace. She's not safe. If they did that line, you know, in the swimming pool, the Olympics, she'd be having the line. She can't even see the line. Yeah, the line's miles back. I'm looking it up for a world record for most divorces. Wow.

Well, apparently the highest divorce rate is from the Mel Dives. Number one, 10.9... You live in Paradise. 10.9 per 1000 marriages. 10.9. No, sorry, paradise! 10.9 per 1000 marriages. 10.9. No, sorry, 10.97 divorces per 1000 inhabitants per year. I don't understand what that means.

It's double at least the second which is Belarus. But I don't understand what that means. It's a per head divorce rather than a per marriage divorce which I think would... Yes, so every 1000 people that live there every year, 10 of those people will get divorced. So is that five divorces or 10 divorces or 20 people? Oh, good, good question. Oh, that's a good question. But what is it, 1%?

That's not that bad. If you're like, there's a thousand people and 10 of us are gonna get divorced, I'd feel pretty good in those odds. Yeah, eight years. So I think it would be a better... But then more people would get married. Yeah, a better percentage would be

how many marriages end in divorce. Okay. I found our winner, Glen Wolf, also known as Scotty Wolf. Okay. From Party 5? No, but... What a reference. Was that his name? I don't know. Party 5 is before our time.

Yeah, no, we're talking about Scot. Scotty Wolf was an American Baptist minister who resided in Black California. He is best known for allegedly having the largest number of monogamous marriages, having married 31 different times, although one of his marriages was annulled and several remain unconfirmed. And you know on Wikipedia how there's a column

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it wicked. Yeah. Wicked wasn't taken. I could have name was available. You could have anything. You could have called it wicked. Yeah. Wicked wasn't taken. I could have called it cats. You could have. You know? Yeah, like now. It's a struggle to come out with.

Could have called it Zigfried and Roy's magical hour. You could. Could have called it David Copperfield makes a ship disappear. Yeah. Could have called it David Coupé, starring David Coupé. You could have called it that. You could have called it diagnosis murder. But they went for shuffle along.

Shuffle along. From Wikipedia again, in shuffle along, Baker was a dancer positioned at the end of the chorus line. Fearing she might be overshadowed by the other dancers, she used her position to introduce a hint of comedy into her routine, thereby making her stand out from other dancers. Wow, so she's doing a little like,

on the side, like funny dancing. Yeah, like you don't get overshadowed. That's the point of a chorus line. You're just one big thing, isn't it? She's like, I'm gonna stand out. I don't wanna be overshadowed by these other people doing exactly what I'm doing. It'd be great if they all had that thought.

They're like, I'm, I do the funny dance tonight. I'm in the substage for styling. Dance, whoa, whoa. It's like, you do the funny dance tonight. I'm going to stop stage 3 styling. She can dance. Whoa, whoa. It's like you're just supposed to dance across the stage and leave. I don't know. They're all out there. It's crumping.

It's where crumping was started. Oh, no. Yeah, that's crazy. She first entered Chaffell along in 1922 in one of the US touring companies. Once she became of age, she was transferred to the Broadway production where she remained for several months, up until the show ended in 1923. The next review baker was cast in was the Chocolate Dandies, which opened on September 1, 1924.

Again, she was cast in the chorus line. It ran for 96 performances and closed in November of 1925. So she's working fairly consistently and she's still very young. And is she still like trying to show up the others? Oh, definitely. Yeah, she's still very young. And is she still like trying to show up the others? Oh, definitely. Yeah, she's... What else are the dandies? Yeah.

When you hear of someone who's been divorced twice, you don't expect years later to hear the line when she became a vagant. I know. Isn't that crazy? Man at 13. I feel like being divorced, you're a vagant now. Yeah.

I think you just, numbers don't mean anything. Yeah. I'm picturing her like she's smoking a cigarette. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that reminds me of my first husband. How old are you? 16. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, and money for her mother and younger half-sisters, but larger career opportunities pushed her to make a trip to France. Oh, okay. Exciting. In 1925, aged 19, she sailed to Paris and performed in an

all-black review that October. In Paris, she became an instant success. Arrhyde Gary Young writes, she scandalized and titillated Paris, appealing to the sense of the primitive and the exotic that pervaded Europe during the jazz age. She's in constant motion, her body writhing like a snake, or more precisely like a dipping saxophone, wrote the critic Pierre, some sort of very confusing French name. Like a snake, sorry, let me be even more specific and dipping saxophone. He goes on to say, music seems to pour from her body. She grimaces, crosses her eyes, wiggles disjointedly, does the splits, and finally crawls off the stage. Oh my, stiff-legged, her rampier than her head, like a young giraffe.

She's crawling with her rampire. She says terrible. Who does he has nothing like a snake. She's got a cross-eyed and just... Yes, she... Is she possessed? She's having a seizure on there? I think so. That she wiggles disjointedly, then she does a splits,

and then she crawls off the stage stiff-legged, but with her ass in the air. Meanwhile, the rest of the chorus line are just perfectly in time shuffling away from her. And she's just... The hell? And they're like, oh, she moves like jazz. She's crawling along the ceiling like exorcist style, the head, vomiting, spewing, head turning, yeah. And they're like, wow, she's mystifying.

She's a star. Later, Baker said, no, I didn't get my first break on Broadway. I was only in the chorus in shuffle along and chocolate dandies. I became famous first in France in the 20s. I just couldn't stand America and I was one of the first colored Americans to move to Paris. And she says, oh yes, Brick top was there as well.

I'll talk about Brick to go to music. Oh, Brick top. No, thanks, Turkish. Yeah. Oh, it's very enough. Me and her were the only two, and we had a marvelous time. Of course, everyone who was anyone knew Bricky, and they got to know Miss Baker as well. She talks like she's in the 20s.

I love it. Yeah. So Ada Bricktop Smith, very famous American jazz singer, who owned the famous nightclub, Shay Bricktop in Paris from 1924 to 1961. She's been, she's been called one of the most legendary and enduring figures of the 20th century American cultural history. So Bricktops. Oh good. I think you found us as well. But yeah, was in Paris around the same time. So Gary Young, he writes again, Baker was something of a pioneer in this journey, but she was by no means alone. During the decades immediately before and after World War II, a significant cohort of black

artists facing repression in the US would seek exile in France, where they found not only acceptance but adulation. There is more freedom in one square block of Paris than there is in the entire United States of America, wrote novelist Richard Wright, who moved to France in 1946, claimed French citizenship and died there in 1960. And another writer. Sorry, he moved there in 1946. Yes. Like a year after that,

taking it back from the Nazis. Yeah. A lot of freedom there, and there always has been. Yeah. Definitely resources are high. Food, very available. But he felt more free there than in the US.

And the US is the land of the free. So I can only imagine that this... Paris is... New town. What has it had to be? Paris. Jesus, I must have been free. Is that sure for paradise?

I'd have lived so, yes. And it's the kind of place where you could walk stiff-legged which grump in the air, and people would celebrate you. It would be like how free it is. Bravo, madam, they would say. Incredible stuff. You wouldn't get that in the US.

No. No matter how hard you try. So, they're... It is funny, because America did have a little something to do with Paris having freedom You'll even imagine leaving America just after they've helped free a Lot of Europe from the Nazis and I'm like glad I'm away from that stinkhole America Yeah, and here in the land of the free Paris

And these are specifically the Nazis I can still say I'm walking Free what we up to where you go And these are specifically- Well, the Nazis are still saying walking in. But go on, free. What were you up to? Where you going? It is kind of interesting because like, I mean, these are specifically black artists. So it is very different for them. But Gary Young, this writer that I'm quoting, talks about, he's a black Englishman and he talks about living in Paris

in his uni days in the 90s and facing huge racial issues. Yeah, they got big issues there. It was just at that time, it was pretty good. Right. It can be in comparison to the US. There's a lot of segregation, right? Exactly, yes. I was looking at that all through my slightly privileged lens, I should say.

But yeah, it's just like, yeah, it's kind of like, oh wow, it's great. And then this guy Gary Young's like, well, it's only in the 90s and you're like, okay. I think it's been a big grim there since the night is still is, I think, in Paris some. Yeah. Anyway, so Kristen D. Burton writes for the National World War II Museum. It was a great article written there. Unlike the United States, France did not racially segregate public places on a large scale. When Josephine and her castmates boarded a train in France, they were surprised, but happy to learn they could sit anywhere they liked.

Right, okay. We're seeing what they're talking about now, okay. Josephine was also shocked to see the costumes created for her to perform in. One consisted only of a bikini bottom covered in flamingo feathers. After one performance, Josephine quickly took to this kind of erotic dancing and became a rising star. Do you think there's a more erotic bird

than the flamingo? I challenge anyone to find a more romantic bird. That's a horny bird. What about that hot bird in Dublin? Oh man, it was a magpie. Yeah, we were losing our minds. The Irish magpie, my god. That is a hot bird.

It's just a bird we've ever seen. We were like, look at that fucking bird. It's so beautiful. I couldn't believe it a hot bird in the desert. And the Irish listeners saw the video and were like, it's a magpie. It's a magpie. It's a magpie, the diamond doesn't.

We were losing our minds. They didn't say like that. They said, Dara Dama doesn't. I don't do the Irish accent. You do. That's just a magpie. They're a Dama doesn't. Thank you.

Beautiful. Well, thank you so much. Thank you so much. I'm sure Irish listeners would agree. That was very good. That was spot on. So over time, Josephine became the most successful entertainer in France. Like she has just hit the scene, she's a huge star.

They're a lover. Awesome. She performed the dance, sovage, wearing a now famous costume consisting of a skirt made of a string of artificial bananas. Okay, is there a hornia fruit from the banana? Maybe a peach, but I think peach is second. Yeah, yeah. Because it looks like a butt.

They're top two. Did I have to explain that? Did you is second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it looks like a butt. They're top two. So now I have to explain that. Did you get that? Oh, I got it. It looks like a butt. Oh my god. Banana looks like an even weirder butt. Yeah, that's a really, really good.

That's like, get that checked. That's what your butt looks like. So yeah, she's quite famous for that. It was just a skirt made out of bananas. So much of her success was of course due to her talent and her stage presence, but she also had incredible luck with timing. Her early success coincided with the 1925 International Exhibition of Modern Decorative and Industrial Art. It was designed by the French government to highlight the new modern style of architecture, interior decorating, furniture,

glass, jewelry, and other decorative art in Europe and throughout the world. And it said that this exhibition gave birth to the term art deco and also brought with it a renewal of interest in non-Western forms of art, including a big interest in African art, a fun-tid bit, and something that a lot of people mention when suggesting her as a topic. I think she sort of lent in to the African thing. She had a pet

cheetah, named Chiquita, who would often accompany her on stage in her later shows. Chiquita, adorned with a diamond collar, would often escape into the orchestra pit, terrorizing the musicians and delighting audiences. Is there a hotter land mammal than the Jeter? I think so. Something on a faster one. Definitely not a faster one. But like so people. And that's sexy.

Speed. Speed. Get it done. I got things to do. Yeah. That's sexy. Into the orchestra pit. And then people cheer up.

Oh, it's got the personas. Oh, but a fun. He's bleeding in the neck. Fun. Throwing tips. Yeah, anyway. I don't know this for sure, but I assume a human could take a cheetah.

Is that not right? I think we should put it to the test. You beat Cheetah. I'm gonna go average cheetah weight. Okay. 75 to 140 pounds, 34 to 64 kilos. You need a take-a? Yeah, I reckon.

I think you would want to be aware, like if it bounces on you from Yeah, you need to take it. Yeah, I reckon. I think you'd you would want to be aware like if it cut if it Pounds on you from behind, you know like yeah, you might say, can we put little corks on its teeth? No, okay No, I'm just you can't face off each other in a boxing ring I think it has a boxing gloves on. Yes, so it can't quite walk properly. Yeah, then yeah, I could take it and no biting Aladdin Is it normal? I said no biting. Yeah, normal boxing rules. Yes. Okay, so you say yes for his rules, but not for my rules.

But it's coach is Mike Tyson, so who knows what will happen. Okay, yeah. But what sort of brain capacity do they have to learn tricks like boxing? Yeah, that's true. I don't know how smart they are, but they are fast. You're rope are doping it up, they've got no chance. Oh, yeah, because they're sprinters.

They're 77 centimeters tall at the shoulder. I'm so much taller than that. That's bigger than I would have thought. But I've got a I got bigger reach than them. Oh, yeah. And every time I reach out, they bought another arm of. And that happens for two times. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Okay. Oh, not again. Google knows me. Okay. Not again. Google knows me so well. I've Googled cheetah to just look at it and then I've started typing canna human and it's order corrected to beta cheetah in a fight. And yeah, you're out of the core. I've got the miss bottle. I've fit strong adult human who was willing to take some damage would probably defeat

a cheetah. Thank you. They weigh about 50 kilos and I'm all likely built in other big feelings. Are you willing to take some damage? Yeah. Well, I'm playing a bassoon. I don't have a lot of choice. Thank you. Thank you. That's probably could take one. Thank you. I thought so. That's also yes. There's multiple. I'm

hoping away on the bassoon, right? And obviously there's a thing in there. What's a bassoon sound like again, Rami? Is it? What what kind of tune do you want? What jazz? Jazz. Oh, so it's a bit the- No, it's not playing, so- So, why- Play all the notes you don't want to play.

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Am I thinking of the wrong answer? I believe so, yes. I couldn't work out of a Scooby-Doo or Mr. Bailey playing the bass end. In the part of the bassoon, we have Rowan Atkinson. And we have a Scooby-Doo. Anyway, so she's got a cheater, love that. She's got a cheater. It's attacking her musicians, it's fun. After a while, Baker was the most successful American entertainer working in France.

She was a celebrity. Ernest Hemingway spent hours talking to her in Paris bars and called her the most sensational woman anyone ever saw. Picasso created paintings of her and her captivating beauty. She was hugely famous. In 1929 she became the first African American star to visit Yugoslavia while on a tour of Central Europe. He belgrade she performed at Luxor, Bell, Kanska, the most luxurious venue in the city at the time, and she donated some of the show's proceeds to the poor children of Serbia. She, one of our favorite things to do is when people turn up to look at trains, she was

received by adoring fans at the train station. However, some of her shows were cancelled due to opposition from the local clergy and morality police. Oh, yeah, they're like, it was the opposite to Elvis. They're like, no straight legged dancing. No, okay. You have to film it from above the romp. You can leave the stage, but your legs must be bent. You've been to his legs. That is ungodly. Bend to those knees. Bend those knees, God gave you. During this trip, she was accompanied by her manager, Count Giuseppe Pepito Abatino, who was not actually a count. Oh, wow. But he said he was, and the two became lovers,

while he was also managing her. They couldn't marry because she was still technically married to Willie Baker, but under the management of Abbotino, Baker's stage and public persona, as well as her singing voice, was transformed. She released her most successful song in 1931. I have two loves. Both called Willie. Both called Willie. The song expresses the sentiment that I have two loves, my country and Paris.

Are okay. Yeah. A baker starred in four films which found success in Europe. There was a silent film, siren of the tropics, Zuzu and Princess Tam Tam and Fulse alert in 1940. It's in French but I was like, I think I can figure out what that one is. She was funny and charming and artfully clumsy and audiences fell in love with her. So those films were 1927, 34, 35, 40.

So she's like in films, you know. She's on a hot streak. She's on a hot streak. But despite her popularity in France, she was never really able to reach the same level of Stardom in her native USA. She returned home in 1936 to start in the revival of Zigg-Feld Follies on Broadway. Unfortunately, the show wasn't commercially successful and she was replaced by another actress later in the run. American critics were unkind in their reviews. Like I couldn't read them on the podcast.

Kind of unkind. Like racial slow kind of unkind. And she, like I couldn't read them on the podcast, kind of unkind, like racial slow kind of unkind. And she returned to Europe heartbroken and not long after she gave up her American citizenship and became a legal citizen of France when she married Frenchman Jean Leon. So she's married now for the third time. And now she released a new song, I have one love. Yeah. And Paris, fuck you.

Yeah. It's beautiful in French. It sounds obviously terrible in the Australian accent, but have one love. Yeah. And Paris, fuck you. Yeah. It's beautiful in French. It sounds obviously terrible in the Australian accent, but beautiful in hers. But here's where her story takes a bit of an unexpected turn. So in September of 1939, after Germany invaded Poland, France declared war on Germany. In the Duzium Bureau, the French military intelligence agency, recruited Baker as an

honorable correspondent. She was to work with a man named Jacques Abte, the head of French counterintelligence in Paris. Abte sought to recruit people who could engage in espionage to help resistance efforts against the Nazi occupation. Baker was an ideal candidate for this work as her celebrity allowed her to move easily between countries and offered her enhanced protection. When Appdi approached Josephine to see if she would take the risk and join the resistance, she said,

France made me what I am. I will be grateful forever. The people of Paris have given me everything. I am ready captain to give them my life. You can use me as you wish. So she's like, fuck out, this guy! Have we gone back in time again? A little, yeah. I jumped ahead in terms of some of the films she was in and it's all kind of overlapping.

I had already emotionally moved on from the end of the war. No, we're deep in it now, but back in the war, I'm sorry to make you move on and then move back. What a vicious circle. Yeah. So using her star power and social reputation, Baker attended parties and functions at embassies, ministries, nightclubs, she socialized with the Germans, charming them and gathering information. So you weren't wrong when you were like, she's getting gossip. But she was getting like good

goss. Yeah, obviously she went to Abte and she was like, she was wearing me as she looked hideous. She's such an autumn. And but also, and this is the port they're going to attack. She had a useful stuff. Can you believe it? The why that, the kernel.

Oh my God. He is going to bomb. He wouldn't believe who he's gonna bomb next. He would believe. Takes us to be very drunk while there's just a built tension. Because of who she was, it was easy and not suspicious for her to be rubbing shoulders with high profile people.

From high ranking Japanese officials to Italian bureaucrats, she'd gather information and report to Abdi what she heard. From the World War II museum again, Josephine came to represent much of what Hitler and the Nazis despised. She was a successful black woman in an interracial marriage with a Jewish man who was also openly bisexual

and had multiple long-term, semi-public relationships with other women. When the Germans began to advance on Paris in 1940, Josephine, like millions of other Parisians, fled the city. She moved to a chateau, she rented in the south of France, where she took in other refugees fleeing the Nazis. So she's got chateau money. And she's like, come stay, come get to take out with me at the chateau. She housed resistance fighters at her chateau and supplied them with visas. She attended parties and diplomatic functions, including parties at the Italian Embassy, that brought her in the orbit of high-ranking access bureaucrats.

She collected information on German troop movements, and what harbors or airfields were in action. Josephine was confident that her celebrity and connections would protect her, and that no one would suspect her of espionage. She wrote down intelligence on her hands and arms, pinning notes inside her underwear. She did so knowing that she would never face a strip search. She was like, I'm hugely famous. That's not going to strip search of me. She's been walking around like, I saw these posts and notes in her pants.

No, it's going on here. It sounds like you're walking through a pile of leaves. But would you say that to the most famous person you'd ever seen in your life? No. Brad Pitt walks in here, you're not going to be like, you sound funny when you walk, Brad Pitt, take off your clothes, I'm going to search up. You're not going to say that, are you? Not like that.

No, no, I wouldn't. What about that? So, but her other super secret way of taking notes is on her hand. So, yeah, how many troops you got there? Just let me write this down. Yeah, no, no, no. That's just my hand. But she puts gloves on, can't say it.

Oh, okay. But it's on her arms, it's obviously under clothing. I don't think it's in like big black permanent marker on her skin and then she's like, yep, that'll be fine. And they're like watching. And she's like, can you spell that for me whilst you write it down? So I just had a great idea for a new dance. I'm just going to write on my arm.

You inspired me. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to call it 18,000 troops at Midnight. It's beautiful. The Nazis has gotten wind of the resistance activity happening at Josephine's chateau and visited the estate. Now I can picture this in like, in the film version, being very tense.

Absolutely. Josephine had been hiding several resistance fighters at the time of the visit. She successfully charmed the Nazis when they questioned her, but she took the close encounter as a sign that it was time to leave France. She managed to charmed them like, don't check the house. Anyway, shall I dance? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, We're okay. Thank you. We're going straight leg and leg.

Actually, yeah, we've got another place to check out. This shadow is haunted and shit. I'm not going in there. Anyway, so she's like, I got to get out of France. So, Abt contacted General Charles De Gaulle, who we know from the airport. Transstation. Yeah, I think of an airport as sort of like it's a plane station.

It's a plane station. Yeah, for the, yeah, for Skytrain. So Charles De Gaulle instructed both of them, Abte and Baker to travel to London via Lisbon, which was neutral. Between them, the pair carried over 50 classified documents and secret intelligence. In their underpants. No. She carried hers by writing the information down in invisible ink on her sheet music. Oh yeah. Wow. That's pretty cool. That is amazing. But that's pretty scary that they've got all these classified important documents and their sneaking information around. It'd be so scary every time a Nazi pulls out a lemma to squeeze on his pancakes.

And you're like, oh please don't smash that. Disassume. Disassume. Disassume. Disassume. Disassume. But again, it's on her like sheet music. You can imagine, you can imagine a musician being really like,

protects me. Yeah, please. Oh, sorry. It's not, there's nothing I hide here. I just don't want to get any of your pancake batter onto my sheet. Yes. But please enjoy your breakfast.

And then you get the invisible link from a, from a, did it come free with a comic book or something? Yeah. It's the only time I've seen a visible. She wear your ex-face. Ex-face. She got a, see monkeys. She's got the full lot.

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and she developed peritonitis and then sepsis. So she's really unwell. Her health waived over the coming years, but still didn't stop her. And the French, they had no organized entertainment network for their troops. You know how like, there was always, it was a Johnny Carson, always, whatever.

Bill, no, hope. Bob Bob hope thank you Bob hope all Captain America was there to entertain the troops. The French didn't have like a specific organized entertainment network. So Baker and her entourage took it upon themselves. So she started touring to entertain British French and American soldiers in South Africa. They juggle just on the trenches or whatever. And then held out a hat. Also a hat. I wasn't going to cue our code. Don't catch, that's fine. That's okay.

I understand. Can I co-cash in war? But surely, you're carrying paper. We'll take that or Anzac Bikis. Whatever you got. I will also accept pictures of your girl back home. But she didn't charge any admission, didn't pass around a hat. And only allowed troops to attend. No civilians are like, yeah, so they got to pay.

She was there entertaining the troops. Following D day in the liberation of Paris, Josephine returned to her adopted city, wearing a military uniform. She was awarded the resistance medal by the French Committee of National Liberation. The, I can't say that. Dave, you know French. Oh, please don't put this on me. I can't even tell my heart. I'm in red. Another another medal. I can say, John Minister. Yeah, what's this one? Croix De Guerre. Yeah, that is Croix. Is it? Because there's a Tissue member, um, Eugene Delahot Croix-Bum.

Oh, yeah, okay. So Kroy to good. That's right. I think that's about right. By the French military. And she also got a legion of honor medal from Charles de Gaulle. So she's got some medals on her. Which I think is very cool.

Yeah. She quickly took note of how terrible conditions were affecting many French people after the Nazi occupation. So she sold pieces of jewelry and other valuables to raise money and buy food and coal for poor citizens of Paris. So she's quite like socially minded, which is nice. By this time she was married for the fourth time to French composer and conductor, Joe Bullion. She's in her early 40s now, but she is reinvigorated post-war, and her career picks back up again in a big way. From Wiki, it says, bolstered by recognition of her wartime heroism, Baker, the performer, assumed a new gravitas, unafraid to take on serious music

or subject matter. The engagement was a rousing success and reestablished Baker as one of Paris's pre-eminent entertainers. In 1951, she was invited back to the US for a nightclub engagement in Miami. After winning a public battle over desegregating the club's audience, Baker followed up her sold-out run at the club with a national tour. Rae reviews and enthusiastic audiences accompanied her everywhere, so she's finally getting some success in the States. Right. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People granted her the title Woman of the Year, which is huge as well.

Oh. Because she gets sort of right into the Civil Rights Movement. Many years later, of course, in Australia, sportswoman of the year. Sportswoman of the year. That was won by the horse Black Caviar. Like, I have sportswoman in the eat-a-horse. It's slightly controversial.

Beautiful stuff. Well, you know, we're... That's a country. Think we're... Pretty cool. I think we are pretty cool. I think we're pretty cool, okay? Given that her previous shows and film roles

had given her nothing but criticism, this successful tour is a huge deal. But it was a little short lived. During that trip to the US, she and her husband, Joe, were refused reservations at 36 New York City hotels because of racial discrimination. Wow.

36 different hotels refused them. She was like, this huge star, not that that should change anything, but you'd think you do see example sometimes of them turning a bit of a blind eye in that case when it's like somebody who's famous or rich But not the case in rage by this treatment. She wrote articles about the segregation in the US She refused to perform for a segregated audience that Miami club offered her $10,000 to do so

And she refused and they eventually gave in to her demands and there was a bit of a ripple effect Her insistence on mixed audiences helped to integrate live entertainment shows in other parts of the country as well. So yeah, she's kind of like, she's been living in Paris where there isn't segregation and she's treated like a person. And then she goes back to the US and is racially discriminated against

and audiences are segregated. And she's like, the fuck is this? Which I can understand would be a real weird sort of 180. However, after this incident, it got a lot of press. She began receiving threatening phone calls from people claiming to be from the KKK, but she said publicly she was not afraid of them, which is also pretty bauzy. That's bad ass. She's like, I went up against the freaking nuts. There's not even a shit about the Ku Klux Klan. When they were like in charge of the country that I was living in.

Yeah. She's like, whatever. I'm badass. She's pretty badass. So also in 51, this is all when she's in the US. There was a Manhattan Nightclub, the Stalk Club, which apparently she was at and they refused to service. And she sort of openly criticized them

for their unwritten policy of discouraging black patrons. Apparently, Grace Kelly was there when that happened and like went over to Josephine Baker and like, you know, took her and was like, I'm never coming back here and left as well. And then those two became lifelong friends. Oh, cool. Princess Grace, you know, took her and was like, I'm never coming back here and left as well. And then those two became lifelong friends. Oh, cool. Princess Grace, although apparently,

when we compare it, it said she did go back like five years later, so she lied. So I'll never trust Princess Grace again. I thought Princess Grace's word was her born. Apparently not. But she's just yet another windbag. She is full of, I don't like swearing, but she's full of crap.

Matthew. Sorry. That's a princess you're talking about. Well, a long dead princess. Yeah, more princess of Monaco, more like princess of Bullshit. Whoa. He said it. Maddie.

I'm sorry. I've never seen you so worked up before. I'm sorry, but I just think if you say you're never going back to the, whatever, the store club. Then you don't go back to the store club. You don't go back to the store club. Yeah, is this about STALK? No, STORK.

Okay. Okay. ORK. Oh, I can't. ORK. I can't. Should we all commit on this podcast right now that I am never going back to the store club?

I won't commit to that because I have a dog shit memory and I'll forget. And what if I accidentally go to the store club? Yeah, right. You'll be papped. We've got you. I know. And then they're like, just we have you on the record saying, and I'm like, I don't remember anything.

Yeah, never say never. I don't think I can be held accountable for anything I say on this podcast. I. Because I don't remember that the second we turn off the microphones. Yeah, never say never. I don't think I can be held accountable for anything I say on this podcast. I. Because I don't remember that the second we turn off the microphones. Yeah, I agree. I can't say I'll never go back there. What if someone kidnaps me? Put the hash and sack on my head.

Yeah. And dumps me at the store club. What if you want to drink and it's the only place? Yeah, what if I'm really thirsty? What if there's a cool event on you? And I'm invited. And I'm invited. Or I somehow find myself there's a cool event on it? And I'm invited or are somehow fun myself there? Am I not to go? Yeah, come on. So I don't think you can possibly ask that of us. But Dave has said it on record. So I'll never go

to the front press. I will never go to this club that shut down in 1965. I'm on the record. Okay, okay. Oh, the store club never got to see the Saints when they're one on only pre-missions the next year. That is sad. Sorry. That is sad. Poor Boston's. So anyway, she's had this incident at the store club. She is like really publicly criticizing them for it.

And then she called out Walter Winchell, who was a former Vorderville performer and now a columnist. I think he was a bit of a gossip columnist for not sort of coming to her defense. And he retaliated with a series of rebukes and an accusation of communist sympathies, which at the time, massive deal. That's a big claim. That's a career rule and a right there. So the insuing publicity resulted in the termination of Baker's work visa, because remember, she's given up her American citizenship. So she's there on a work visa now. So it forced her to cancel all of her engagements and return to France and it was almost a decade before the US officials allowed her back into the country.

Wow. Is that a while? Because of a gossip columnist. Calling it saying she has communist sympathies. I like get out. It's like a, it's just the witch trial stuff. Yeah. Oh, over again, right? And you just say, what I heard, so that's how it happened. That seems to have happened a lot around the time. Beauty Baker. Comedy. Yeah. Comedy. Come on. Comedy Baker. Yeah. Comedy. Let's throw in the river. If she floats, she's a comedy. If she sinks, still a comedy. She's a dead comedy. She's a dead comedy. The best kind a dead commie. The best kind of commie.

Yeah. Yeah, really strange. So she's thrown out. But she really threw herself at the whole Civil Rights movement. She was really angered by the treatment she received in the US. Is that this is a quote from Wikipedia,

as the decorated war hero who was bolstered by the racial equality she experienced in Europe, Baker became increasingly regarded as controversial. Some black people even began to shun her, fearing that her outspokenness and racy reputation from her earlier years would hurt the cause. But she's just like, I don't give a fuck, I've experienced the opposite, like I get treated like a person in Europe. And she just kept standing up for kept standing up against this racial segregation against

everything. In 63 she spoke at the march on Washington at the side of Martin Luther King Jr. Not everyone involved, wanted Baker present at the march. Some thought her time overseas had made her a woman of France, one who was disconnected from the civil rights issues going on in America. In her speech, one of the things she said was, I have walked into the palaces of kings and queens and into the houses of presidents and much more, but I could not walk into a hotel in America and get a cup of coffee, and that made me mad. And when I get mad, you know that I opened my big mouth, and then look out, because when Josephine opens her mouth, they'll hear about it all over the world.

She's just pissed off. She sounds, she's like a real-life forest gump. She's just walking through the pages of history. The stories, wow. So she was next to Martin Luther King. Yeah. She was there with the Nazis. Against the Nazis, I should say.

Yeah, yeah. It's incredible. She's in Paris in the jazz age. Yeah. She's hanging out with Hemingway and P Yeah. What against the Nazis I should say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's incredible. She's in Paris in the jazz age. Yeah. She's hanging out with Hemingway and Prosser.

She's one of the most famous people in Paris. Incredible. I can't believe this story. Has there been a big budget movie made about it? She's been the subject of quite a few TV shows, movies, all sorts of stuff. I don't know if I've seen anything huge. Big budget, just. I want a big budget. I don't think I've seen any big budget.

I want Tom Hanks to play. God, yes. God, he'd do a good job. He would do a good job wouldn't he? Oh, he would just capture her essence. I don't think there are many that could pull off Josephine Baker. No. But I think Hanks is one.

I think it'd get Hanks on the line. We got a roll of a lifetime. Send him a typewriter. He loves those typewriters. Apparently, after Martin Luther King, Junior's assassination, you'll find this wild Matt considering what you were just saying. His widow, Coretta Scott King,

approached Baker in the Netherlands to ask if she would take her husband's place as leader of the Civil Rights Movement. And after many days of thinking it over, Baker declined saying her children were too young to lose their mother. So she's like, I would love to, I'm honored, but I can't lead the civil rights movement. I've never had a total tennis tournament.

Especially when it would be hard as well, because she's like, and many of the people inside the movement thought I was out of touch with the movement. So it would be a hard thing to lead perhaps from that position. And especially if you're also trying to look after a couple of bloody little ruggers. Yeah, well it's interesting because you might be thinking, children, I was thinking yes, I know, I can be your head. I mean your head. I thought thought that, but I also thought, I obviously zoned out for a moment there. No, during her participation in the Civil Rights Movement,

Bayca began to adopt children, forming a family which she often referred to as the rainbow tribe. She wanted to prove that children of different ethnicities and religions could still be brothers. And that part sounds kind of nice, but part of this feel very off. So, see how you go with this. Right, you're the headlines and it's good. Well, from Wikipedia, she often took the children with her cross country and when they're at

Chateau, at the Chateau, she arranged tours so visitors could walk around the grounds and see how natural and happy the children were in the rainbow. Oh, she had a human zoo. Her estate featured hotels, a farm, rides, and the children singing and dancing for the audience. She charged an admission fee to visitors who entered and partook in the activities which included watching the children play. It's a small world. That's a big wave. Oh, that's really, really. And it's creepy, isn creepy because. We're just saying like what an impressive person. What a way to live life. Wow. And then you're like, oh, that's a bit cruel.

Charging and mission is the thing that probably pushes it over the edge. Like the better ones, welcome. You know, we just have an open house here. Yeah. And you wouldn't say and come and observe the children. Yeah, just be there. And living their life better be like,

there's the free range pet over here. Yeah. Yeah. Behind the bars here, that's our savanna, where we let the children run free. And I thought you're gonna say, it got a bit weird. She took the rainbow thing literally

and painted each child, green, red, yellow, in the go. But instead, she's there like, hammy at bags of bread saying, you can feed the children. Yeah. Just be, don't get too close. They might bite your hand. Just a closed fist at first.

Let them sniff you. She created dramatic backstories for the children. What? She also raised them in different religions in order to further her model for the world, taking two children from Algeria and raising one child as a Muslim and the other as a Catholic. One member of the tribe, Jean two children from Algeria and raising one child as a Muslim and the other as a Catholic. One member of the tribe, Jean-Claude Baker, said, she

wanted a doll. Essentially she wants dolls. She's kind of forgetting these. That was one of these people. She wanted to be the people. So a bit strange. In total, she raised 13 children, two daughters, French born Marianne and Moroccan born Stelina, and 11 sons, Japanese-born Amjano, and Akio, Colombian-born Louis, Finnish-born Jari, French-born John Claude, Noel, and Moise, Algerian-born Brahim, I've Orian-born Coffee, and Venezuelan-bornan born Mara later on she would become the legal guardian of another boy Also named John Claude and considered him an unofficial addition to the rainbow tribe

So I know fish as well. So you're unofficial Jean Claude. They have two Jean Claude's okay You're your stand-by Jean Claude and she's got them from all different places around the world Understudy Jean Claude. Yeah, the air in the spare Jean Claude. Yeah Air in the spare air in the spare. That's a little strange, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Man, it was just, oh, it was all just tics until this one wasn't it? Wow, what an awesome person. It was tics, all tics. Tics, like, sorry. That's cross. Yeah, incredible, incredible, incredible, sorry, the human phone. But I couldn't not mention it. I could not. I could not.

Of course not, no. Because then everybody who suggested it would be like, what the, why didn't you mention the rainbow tribe? It sounds like she's lost her mind. It sounds like it sort of started from a good place, but then it went a bit sideways. I also did read, and I left it out, but I did read at one point, one of them,

when it was about 15 came out as gay and she kicked him out and made him go live with her now ex-husband but she was by. I think she learned a lot from being persecuted through her life. Yeah, she's like no that's different. Is it because it wasn't the storyline for that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I've obviously, no, I don't have none of the research, but is she trying to show the world that everyone can live together, everyone can get along? That seems like the kind of vibe, yes. But it is strange, but also, don't be gay. Yeah, also, do nobody gay because I haven't decided that for you, and I've picked your religion, I've picked your religion.

Yeah. You don't do that. You're this person now, and then also people pay to see you. It is a bit, I don't know, off. And I did read that, like, in an interview in, like, 2003 or you, it is a bit, I don't know off. And I did read that like in an interview in like 2003 or something, Angelina Jolie kind of credited Josephine Baker because you know Angelina Jolie. They say the rain, yeah, she says,

has a rainbow family, I've seen someone say that maybe. Yeah, that's what I thought when you said rainbow family, I'm like, oh, it's like a Jolie. Exactly. And so she said, but it's tricky because, I mean, it's not a bad thing to give a home to somebody who needs a home, but. To collect them from around the world.

And to charge admission. And I think you could achieve what you wanted to achieve there without making it such a spectacle, I think just by living your life with your children of many ethnicities all seeing each other as their own family. Which is more of a jolly, the jolly method, right? I guess. I don't think she charges admission. I don't think so, but I haven't checked recently.

But yeah, no, I don't mean I don't know, but it does also feel like just particularly going around the world and taking kids away from not only there. You know, there local neighborhoods, but the whole country is saying, hey, let's see how you go in this public zoo. Yeah, bit strange, but for no longer a little miter judge. Yeah. You know, just because you adopt local. Yeah. Yeah, it's a rescue. Ha ha ha ha ha. Oh, well, he's six.

Came with a name. Can't change it. Yeah. Keith. Ha ha ha ha. It's a Daxon. No. You know, later years, a baker was in a bit of financial strife.

She lost the chateau due to unpaid debts and her close friend, Princess Grace of Monaco, let it live in an apartment that she owned in South Eastern France, beautiful. She was back on stage at the Olympia in Paris in 1968 and then at Carnegie Hall in 73 and at the Royal Variety Performance at the London palladium in Paris, 1974.

So she's like in the 60s and 70s, she's like, she's back. She starred in a retrospective review at the Babino in Paris, celebrating her 50 years in show business. The review, financed by Prince Rayna, Princess Grace, and Jackie O'Necess, opened to rave reviews. Wow, incredible financiers. Right. Demand for seating was such that folder chairs had to be added

to accommodate spectators. Like she was massive. The opening night audience included Sophia Loren, Mick Jagger, Shirley Bassie, Diana Ross, and Liza Manelli. Oh, she's sure. All went to see her. Crazy. So that was in 75. And so she's in her seventies. Yeah, our 60 68.

I was only our 50 years in entertainment. So she's 52. Yeah, that's right. Tell her only 50 years. Also her 50th wedding anniversary. But she's not even 70 and it's her 50th, 50 years in showbiz. Mm, that's incredible. Crazy. Right? So yeah, opening night, that's a huge, huge lineup of people going to see her, they cannot fit everybody in. That many people want to come see the show.

Four days later, Baker was found lying peacefully in her bed, surrounded by newspapers with glowing reviews of her performance. She was in a coma after suffering a cerebral hemorrhage and she was taken to hospital where she died age 68, April 12, 1975. Wow. That, it's some, wow, that's sad. Well, that sounds like not a bad way to go. Is that a pain for way to go?

I don't know. But you know what they say? Never read the reviews. But I can be deadly. But I can be deadly. I got a lot of good ones. She was found surrounded by praise. That is praise.

Like that feels her. Yeah. And also that she finally, yes. She obviously had a lot of praise, but also had negative criticism. There's unfounded and racist. Yeah. So it's nice that she's that I had this huge show where a lot of people wanted to see racist. Yeah. So it's nice that she's that I had this this huge show where a lot of people wanted to see her. Yeah. Some of the most famous people in the world wanted to see her

and were there at her show. People that credit her with inspiring them. And then she just dies surrounded by praise. If you listed the thing she the different things she saw in her life and the thing she achieved, I would have said it'll probably died 140. Yeah, 68. 68, that's redone. If you do that much in life, you don't need to live to 100. No, squeeze it in. It's done. Just squeezing it all in. It's amazing.

That's why I'm going to live a long life. I'm into it. I'm spreading it in. Yeah, you are getting nothing done. Mick Jack has not come to a single one of my shows, as far as I know. You know. Oh, you know. Prancing about.

Yeah, I'm here. I'm here. I think you got some of the dance dolls from there. Oh, it's, geez. He started off at the end of a course line as well. People are like, maybe you should make, sorry, me. Maybe you should start your own thing. Maybe in front of your hand.

Your ass is too high in the air. Your ass too high, you gotta stop. So yeah, sadly all good things must come to an end. But someone with such a varied and successful career, who also did so much for others, is bound to leave behind quite a legacy. Writing in the online BBC magazine in late 2014, Darren Royston, historical dance teacher at Rada,

credited Baker with being the Beyoncé of her day, and bringing the Charleston to Britain. Oh, Dave, you mentioned the Charleston earlier. Yeah. Not on pod. I believe that was on a different pod. I was thinking, going back, going back, going back. But you did mention it and my little brain went, what?

Oh, I know this is coming out. I got something about the Charleston for you. Two of Baker's sons, John Claude and Jerry grew up to go into business together, running the restaurant, Shady Josephine, in New York City. Any relation? Yes. It celebrates Baker's life and work, which is nice. The shadow where she lived and raised her children is open to the public and displays her stage outfits, including her banana skirt, which apparently there are actually several of. It also displays many family photos and documents

as well as her legion of honor medal. Well, I'll never go there. Not as long as Princess Grace is still alive. She's dead. Okay, great, let's go. Let's go, the shadow. In May of 2021, an online petition was set up asking that Josephine Baker be honored by being re-buried at the Pantheon in Paris, or be granted the Pantheon honours, which would make

her the only the sixth woman at the Moseleum. So that was in May, in August of that year, 2021, French President Emmanuel Macron announced that Baker's remains would be re-buried at the Pantheon in November that year, following the petition and continued request from Baker's family. Wow, that's quite an honor. And at six women sounds like a low number, but people got to remember that women don't naturally grow in France. That's right.

So they're all imports from other countries. Yes. I don't think a lot of people know that, but yeah, they're up now. I genuinely think Maori curious is buried there and she was Polish. Yeah, exactly. So there's no women are can't be born in France. They can't. It's like you know like with chickens at the certain heat on the eggs. Yeah. We'll make it a male or a female. Yeah. It's the same. Yeah. The climate in France means only boys and boys. Yeah. So if you want to have a girl, you've got to lay friends.

Yeah, you've got to lay friends in the fridge. So the body got a Monaco hanging out with that dog grunt. That disalloyal friend. So yeah, they essentially it was like a symbolic casket. They were like, we're not going to totally rebeurre there, but they buried a casket that contained soil from various locations where she lived. So St. Louis, Paris, South of France, and Monaco. Oh, so she's not in the box, it's just dirt.

Yeah. Is there any greater honor than having some dirt in a box buried for you? There's probably a plaque too, that's nice. That is nice. I wouldn't say no to a plaque. Yeah, take a plaque. So they did that and she became the first black woman to be honored in the secular temple to the great men of the French Republic. So only the six women, first black woman, pretty cool. She's been a subject or inspiration for countless film, TV shows, documentaries, stage performances, books, poems, songs, and pieces of art. And

I can't believe I hadn't heard of her. Yeah. Which is wild. So, Kristen D. Burton sums it up nicely, I think. Far more than a Vorderville dancer and a jazz singer, Josephine Baker was a force of nature who vaulted racial barriers of the era and achieved the highest level of celebrity. Her status became a shield behind which she could fight the horrors of the Nazi regime.

Fearless and outspoken, Josephine found new ways to challenge those who sought to diminish or silence the suffering or oppressed. In strengthening her own voice, she found innumerable ways to both charm and resist. How cool is that? So cool. What a life. Incredible life. Josephine Baker, the showgirl spy. Maybe that's what I'll call it. That's pretty cool. What a life. Incredible. Josephine Baker, the showgirl spy. Maybe that's what I call it. That's pretty cool. Yeah, one of the most incredible

life stories I've ever heard. Yeah. And I'm actually glad that she was a weird human zookeeper because for a while there I'm like, come on Josephine, send some for the rest of us. Yeah, give me something. Yeah. Give me something to feel better than you're back. Oh my God, I love never done that. Yeah. Well, like, through the rest of us. Give me something. Give me something to feel better than you're back. Oh my God, I love never done that.

Yes. Well, whereas through the rest of the report, you're like, I've never done that. I've never done that. And then that one, you're like, I've never done that. And there's a difference. And an important difference.

So yeah, there you go. That's the story of Josephine Baker. Thank you to everybody who suggested that topic. That has to be up there with one of the most suggested topics. Still on the hat, do you think? Probably, yeah. And it, like, I did put it up to the vote and it quite clearly won very early on. People are like, this sounds great.

So, and it probably came from, I remember a little while ago being like, there aren't, there's like, it's a bit of a dude fest in the, in the suggestion. So if you know a story of like a pretty badass lady, let us know. And I think a lot of these people did. because some of these suggestions go back for a while. Yeah, and anyone can suggest a topic at any time. Do go on pod.com. There's a little thing that says suggest a topic if you scroll down. Click that. Tell us why we should do it. And we'll probably get to it. Yeah, and there's a drop down category selector as well.

Yeah, maybe I should add a new one. Woman. What do you think? That would be good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll help us find women in the hat. Woman. Woman. What category should I put on a woman? Woman. So I feel like doing a biography this week. No, maybe I feel like doing some sort of event. No. Woman. So yeah. Pretty great story. There you go. Loved it. What a report Jess. I loved it from minute to end. From minute to loved it from minute to end. From minute to end. From minute to end.

The first minute didn't like, but from the minute marked to the end, I loved it. Most of that first minute was Dave. Yeah. Dave's intro. I didn't want to say that, but yeah. Fair cop. So, I actually, that was a huge bit of praise for me, and I appreciate that. But now it is time to move on, okay, Jess?

Okay, Dave? Okay Dave. Okay Dave. And Dave, let's stop sitting here. Stop it. I was talking for an hour and a half because I just thought, I really fucked up that first minute. I sound like an idiot. So what I say that.

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Like compare it to that video, I'd be a lot of people. It was a period of time and it was while we were touring that any yes from any of us was a yes. I was doing a coffee. Ah yes. And Andriana's title is Junior Cat Herder. Andriana is asking a question as well writing, starting at colder I am and that means it's soup season. Yes! That's really tickled you. Like a date circled on the calendar and says, First super the season. Soap season. What is your favorite type of soup to have on a cold day?

Yes. And Andriana has done what I always ask. If you ask a question, please answer yourself. And Andriana. yourself. And Andreana. Oh, Adriana, I have done that. So I'll read, Andreana's, I had to first. Faber soup.

I'm a fan of the Italian wedding soup. Oh! If I want a soup to be the main dish and a button-up squash soup as a side. Italian wedding soup. Oh my God, it came up immediately. The problem with it is, how many Italian weddings you get invited to?

Green vegetables and meat in chicken broth apparently. I mean, does it look good on the image of something? Yeah. My favorite, I think is probably the but not squash soup, I just call it pumpkin soup. I just love a creamy pumpkin soup. Delicious.

With some buttered toast. Oh yes. On a cold day. It's been my favorite since I was a creamy pumpkin soup. Delicious. With some buttered toast on a cold day. It's been my favorite since I was a kid. My taste buds have not matured since. Yeah, I still go for like a can of tomato soup. I still can't hand, look, tomato soup always.

To a stick? To either too sweet, but maybe it is acidic. But there was something as a kid, I just couldn't get around it. I love tomatoes in every other form. I think it's great the first spoonful, but it's just exactly that over and over again to me. 100% yes, I can.

Pumpkin soup, no tomato soup. I love pumpkin, but my favorite soup growing up, legendary in my family, my grandma would make what we called green soup, which was broccoli soup. Oh, okay. And I didn't love eating vegetables as a child, but this somehow, it's pureed it. Probably because of the esophagus issues that we're undiagnosed at that stage, but

yeah, it's mostly broccoli, but then also a bit of potato and a bit of carrot. Oh yeah. Boyle down, a bit of... Just give it a bit of... Give it a bit of... Yeah, and it is so good. Yeah. I imagine also part of it would have just been the association with...

Yeah. De-grandma mama. Exactly. You know what the other main been the association with. Yeah. Degrad my mom. Exactly. You know what the other main ingredient was? Love. Love. And she lived in the country about four hours. We only, maybe, went up there two or three times a year.

She came down maybe a couple of times. So it was only a few times a year that we'd be getting it. So it was ultra special. And I still, I can just look back and taste it. And you know what the other secret ingredient was? Rum. Yeah. You were drunk. Thank you know what the other secret ingredient was? Rum. Yeah, you were drunk. Thank you so much.

Drian. Next one comes from Jacobi Austin D'Angel, who's given self the title of Ask of the same question. Third time's a charm. Oh. It's not the charm either. A charm. Oh, we're going to finally get Jess's answer to this question.

Oh my God. Yes, we've been asked this twice. You know how you always bail on us before this section of the show, like you never hear. Yes. Well, well, two of the times that that's happened, this question's been asked and you specialize in it. So.

Yeah, you're the expert. Jacob is going for one more time. Oh my God. Oh my God. I'm sorry. We couldn't believe the second time that you went here again, because we said, ask, please ask this again, we'll get Jess and then we'll know.

Yeah. Actually, I have to go. So. Well, I think you would be good at answering this. Jacobi writes. Good answer to anything. What I noticed that Jess was gone for episode 420, blaze it.

I quietly thought to myself, wouldn't it be funny if this is when my fat quota question, which I recent weeks earlier, and the hope she'd be there to answer it was read out. And in some ironic twists, that's exactly what happened. So I'm writing the same FQQ, hoping that Jess is there to answer this time around.

My question is, which parts and wreck character are you? And which are all of us? We tried to have a go about Matt. Oh, great. Matt and I have seen a bit of it, but not enough to know all the characters. Oh. And which are all of us? We tried to have a go. Oh, great. Matt and I have seen a bit of it, but not enough to know all the characters. Oh, fantastic. Okay.

So we were like, please, Gest, just tell us who we are. Great. Do you remember who you thought you might be? Because don't tell us. See where we're at. Yeah, I think, because I think someone, maybe in the Facebook group,

maybe gave us a signed us name. Oh. But I've forgotten them already. I didn't see that. Okay, great. Was 420 the one where I got hit by a car? Yes, it was. I forgot the more written. I didn't see that. Okay, great. Was 420 the one where I got hit by a car? Yes it was. It was the man in black episode with the L.C.

I'm gonna go to the bathroom. So I hope you feel pretty bad. Well, no, I just think you got a sub blazing it. But why are you getting on my- Yeah, but why are you getting on my- Why are you getting on my- Why are you getting on my- And riding?

Okay, well, and this is what I- This is what I'm Leslie. I'm a Leslie no, pretty much 100%. We thought- I think we have to go out the car. Yeah, I think that was because that was the only name we knew. I have been re- I just finished watching it again and yeah, there are so many Leslie noep scenes where my partner just sort of goes, that's you. I'm like shut up. I know. But I might have to do combos for you too. Okay. Because I think, combos for you too. Because I think, oh Dave, I think you're a,

you're a bit of a Chris Trigger, but also potentially a bit of a Tom. A Chris Trigger is Rob Lowe. That's correct. Oh, okay. I've got the character in the form. I would have been like, who's meaning, nothing. And who, who else?

Tom, Aziz Ansari. Oh, okay. I think that we said that I was Ben the nerdy one. Naki, wish you a fucking Ben. Who's Ben? Fuck a little Ben. Adam Scott. Adam Scott.

Isn't he like the super uptight boring one? Uh, okay. Tell me you haven't actually seen the show. Yeah, he is uptight. He's tightly wound. He's not boring. He's a bit of a dork. I guess you could be a Ben.

Okay. Come around to it. No, but I'm happy. But I mean it as a, uh, I mean, Chris Trigger is... Old for a pleasant? Incredibly pull out, like he's like super positive. Yeah. Okay, I'm in love with that.

Yeah. He's great. I doesn't need a lot of therapy though. Maybe you're a Ben, but Tom, I don't know. What else is Tom, is his answer is character? Tom is like one of my least favorite characters. And that's why he's seeing me. That's why I see it.

No, but I think he is an entrepreneur. He is like, nah, you're not Tom. Maybe you are a Ben, but there's someone else in there too. Like, oh, you were a Ben and a Jerry. You're Ben and Jerry. There's a Ben and Jerry on there. Yeah, yeah. This is because of the ice cream.

So the long running joke with Jerry is that anything he does, everybody like teases him for it, or like they get married at him for doing his job, or he like he does something well and they yell at him, he does something badly, they laugh at him. He doesn't even Jerry, is that right? That's right. But he has a smoke and hot life. And he has like this, that.

This is a sound like that. I think part of why it's funny, or part of why you don't feel bad as an audience member laughing along with this joke is that Jerry's life is fantastic. Like he has a beautiful family. He loves his wife. He has like, you know, so it's all kind of,

it's water off a ducts back to him because he is a very complete person. So you're a Ben and you're a Jerry, Matt. Okay. See Jerry end up. Matt's true. No, Matt is definitely not a Ben, but he's not a Ron. Now, because Ron's got a lot of practical skills and you're not as dumb as Andy. Hmm, tricky. But you have very dry and kind of low, like,

I say this with love, low-ish energy. So you might be a bit of an April. Is she? That's a four-bree-plus. Oh, it's a four-bree-plus. I think you could be. I pick up a big, beautiful loss. Oh, yeah, you're beautiful.

I think you could be, I think you're a bit of an April and an Andy. April Andy. Chris Pratt. There, there, husband and wife. And like, they're beautiful. I think you could be, I think you're a bit of an April and an Andy. April Andy. Chris Pratt. They're husband and wife and like they complete opposite. You're their child, you're a bitch. Yeah, general words to both of this. Yeah, they're the best of both of them.

I'll best of both of them. Yeah, yeah. Because Andy is like, he's dumb and I don't think you're dumb. But Andy is also like, super loyal and like, a lot of fun and Yeah, so I reckon I reckon you're in April and then Andy And I'm just a straight-up Leslie. There's a list of characters. I've got here one of them is just John Cena Oh So Justin really ran him over yeah, dude. That's true. Do you see me as a cross between John Cena and Andy?

I'm the fuck is John Cena in it? I don't know. Anyway, I got lost in that. That's great. I can think about, I'm going to keep thinking about that. If I don't know if I've 100% nailed it, but I am a Leslie and maybe an Ann, but they're just best friends. I am an intense best friend.

Yes. Let me just double check, did Jacoby answer this question. I'm gonna answer this first question. Oh, I can answer this first question. John Cena was in season seven. When? Jacoby says, if she's gone again, I'll take it as a sign and change gears

for my next fact-quitter question. I will say Dave has definitely been, Adam Scott's character, but I would suggest that Matt is closer to Eagleton Ron That's not bad. So Pawnee and it's Rivaltown

Eagleton Join and and they have a merger and there is another like a bizarre bizarre ron. Kind of, but like the two sort of parks departments have to come together and they have to decide who they keep, who goes. And there's the leader of that parks department is Ron. And initially, Porné Ron is like, oh good, I like this guy, but then it turns out he's a bit of a hippie and Ron really hates him. Right. Like he's really like positive and like he doesn't get his hair cut, his hair just sort of falls off when it's ready.

And it's like, falls off. Yeah, it's really stupid, really funny. I love it. Oh, cheers to Kobe. I'm glad we finally got that question to just worry. Did you come to say who I was? Leslie? No, he didn't say, but I guess, I think I'm, did he say?

No, I didn't. But I think everyone just agrees you're Leslie. No, he didn't say but I guess I think I did he say no, I didn't but I think I think everyone just Egrigialesley yeah, it's not even up to discussion John Cena is in the episode that I always skip that's why yeah That's why I was wrong with it. It's just like it's a it's an episode within the series like it's by that stage Andy Hasey's own TV show called the Johnny Karate show and it's an entire episode of the Johnny Karate show and I just I usually don't watch it. Alright. But there's meant to be a good episode right but you don't need to watch it over and over. Yeah.

Okay, the next one comes from Sky with the title of just a weird little person. And Sky asks a question writing, hello Jess, Matt and David Zest. Ah, yes. Yes, I'm afraid I have rebranded as David Coupé, though. Please address me accordingly. David Coupé,

driver, I know more to pay. Ah, the question is, what is your silliest tattoo? And if you don't have a weird one, what's your favorite? But Sky does answer their own question saying my dumbest one is LXIX on my right forearm LXIX is 69 in Roman numerals. No, my favorite is a skull mandala Also on my right forearm. I don't, it must say mandala right? Yeah.

I can answer this. Dave's is zebra keyboard. It's his only tattoo. Yeah, that's my favorite and worst. Yeah. And stupid. Is that the question? Was it stupid? Yeah, I think so. Silly. Silly. Silly. It is silly. It is silly and it is my only one. So it was my favorite. George, I don't know what a bit you bought. Um, well, I would argue that most tattoos are a bit silly. I think any really sincere tattoo, it then goes into silly anyway.

I think the worst one is my first one, which is the thing on my rewind sign on my wrist, just because it's too thick. She said, that's the thinnest needle you can do, and I've since had much thinner tattoos done. Technology has come on since the olden days needle you can do and I've since had much thinner tattoos done technology's come on Hasn't it just since the olden days when you got that done grandma? Yeah, and I do have I've got a pole Kelly quote on my arm And I just have to cross my fingers. You never gets cancelled

Because that'll be so awkward Yeah, but you have the silliest one which one oh the more recent one I think it's sillier be a good way be a canned cowboy. Yeah Yeah, you know be you know, a big can cowboy, that rules. Pretty silly. But, design by Mr. Higgy, and I've got it during the filming of the second season of beer pioneer, which hasn't come out,

but I think it's being edited at the moment. Long process, right? Yeah, because I feel like you've had that tap for a while. Did I film that last year? I kind of remember. I think it was last year, probably about a year ago. Wow. Or even more. How many episodes? It must be hundreds. I think it was last year, probably about a year ago. Wow. Or even more.

How many episodes? It must be hundreds. I think there's gonna be 10 episodes, man. Hundreds of episodes? Hmm. Yes. So yeah, I guess that is. My other one's pretty silly as well.

It's flames on my leg. They're all silly. Yeah, they're all pretty silly. All tattoos are silly. But I mean, 69 and Roman numerals are. Yes, that's a level of silly I can get around. Robert, at the moment, they thought of it. Yeah, that's a funny My old mate Arnie he was bored one day at school

So he he went out and got left and right tattooed under his feet on the foot on the yes Souls of his feet. Oh, apparently that's cute. Yeah, it the most painful, but also that it's where they wear away from quicker. So he's like, it's not, you know, it doesn't really matter. It's like, well, why are we doing it then? Why do it if it's excruciatingly painful and it won't last? And no one can say it. I liked it about it, but yeah.

Do you come back to class and was like, check, was there a limp and in? I mean, yeah, it's, by the way, it's a bit of fun. That hurt. Ah, pretty silly. And can I confirm was left on the left? Left on the left, yeah. Oh, good, because fun. I heard. Ah, pretty silly. And can I confirm was left on the left? Left on the left, yeah. Ah, good, because we've been funny to the other around.

Or two left. You know what I'm like. The last one this week comes from Matthew A. Bad, pronounced A. Bad. Now it. And Matthew's title is the one Mama Jammer, who dares to be good. And it's a quote.

Ooh, we love a quote. This quote comes from Stephen King's IT. How did you move about computers? And it is, you can't be careful on a skateboard man. Far out. This quote, that makes you think. This quote is spoken by a child to a 39 year old man. It's a bit of a thematic reminder that life can sometimes

be unpredictable and even scary. But that's the life that's worth living. Being in my 30s myself, I remind myself of this quote so I can hopefully never grow out of getting uncareful from time to time. So to all you doogis out there, remember, you can't be careful on a skateboard, man. I love it. I recommend to tattoo ready to go, Matthew.

Yeah. Hey, bad. Hey, bad. Thanks so much, Matthew Skye, Jacobian, Adriana for those fantastic facts, quotes and questions. The other thing we like to do is shout out to a few of our other fantastic Patreon supporters. Jess, you know I'm gonna come up with a bit of a game based on the topic you'll never believe what I've done. I will not. So you know how I love a horse name generator.

We love that you love it. I was able to find a song name generator. You can put in a mood and a genre. So I have found I have chosen romanceush Love and the genre of jazz. Oh, I'm gonna give them a jazz song. All right, Dave, why don't we go one for one if Jess is gonna be doing all the things? My name is Anna.

All right, well I'll kick us off. I got a great one. If I can thank from Aka Keek in MD, but maybe Maryland in the United States is Michael Hempill. Famous for their song. I believe in lounge. Oh yeah. That's good. You believe in lounge up to lounge. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson.

It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. it's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. It's gonna be Jameson. And so thank you from Tom Ball in Texas. Cammy Jamison. Oh my god. Cammy, jammy. Tom Ball.

What about afternoon? What about afternoon? Oh, what about afternoon? There's not a question, so it's like, what about afternoon? Yeah, why do you leave afternoon out? What's your favorite time of day? It's all questions. It's all questions.

It's all questions. Midnight. Morning. What about afternoon? Midday. Do you believe in afternoon? Uh, can I thank from, sorry, in bell, cars or bell, car in, I reckon Saskatchewan in Canada.

It's fire with a pH. Oh, and it's convenient because the next one I had was that warms your game. Oh, yeah, it really does. And fire already had a sweet shame. That warms your game. It makes sense when you hear the song. Okay, thank you. From right here in Melbourne, a big shout out

and thank you to Liam Ware or Liam War. Probably Ware. Just a light drink. Oh, okay. Isn't that good? Just a tipple. So cheesy. That's a classy order too. Yeah. Oh, I've got a greatipple. So it's like a glossy order too. Yeah.

Oh, I've got a great one. Yeah. Keep in a little mystery alive. Just a light drink. Anything in particular? Surprise me. Yeah, I'm a jazz man. Dupe it up.

It's more about the alcohol you don't put in the glass. Oh, not to kill the thing. Do you think jazz lovers are really over? Yeah, I think they're my best. Over that joke. Blake Fue from, I'm saying this in a jazz way. Blake Fue from South Australia, it's Caitlin Dowden. Caitlin Dowden, I believe in a thing called world. What are these?

What AI, these are AI. How does it do it? It keeps generating these brand new ideas. I believe in a thing called world. Yeah, some people don't believe in the world, but are AI. How does it do it? It keeps generating these brand new ideas. I believe in a thing called world. Yeah, some people don't believe in the world, but I do. Yeah. What shape is it? I tell you what.

Cube. It's cube. It's a world gone mad, which was the name of a screaming jets album from the late 90s. And on the cover was the world as a cube. Wow. That is mad. They were ahead of their time.

Yeah. I'd also love to thank from North Ridgeville in God's country itself Ohio in the United States. It's Captain Bonclay. Captain Bonclay, I'm at your love this one, because this is called Loving Love. And you do love it. I love love more than anything. Yeah. I honestly don't know a lot about love, but I know what I like. That's love. Little line from my festival show last year. That's how good it was.

Wow, you're quieting yourself here. Wow. John, have I jumped back in? Oh, please. I'd like to thank from Dunblane in Scotland. You and Morrison. It's another one that makes sense when you hear the song, but it's called First Time of Sounds. Oh yeah. I still remember my first time. Of sounds?

Yeah. What was the sound? It changed my life. It was, oh god damn it. Oh, it's telling me apart. I did tour in a row there, didn't I, Dave? So you wanna do tour in a row? Yeah, thank you so much.

Thank you for noticing me. And writing this wrong from Sorrel in Tasmania, Melanie Gleason. Uh, famous for main squeeze moves. Oh, that's good. That's the best so far. Main squeeze moves. Let me show you some of my main squeeze. Oh, okay.

We're talking about different. And that's a beauty of art. You can interpret it in all sorts of different ways. And your side squeeze can have different moves. Yeah. Possibly better. Yep. But different.

Different. And finally, I'd love to thank from Mikae. Mikae? Mikae. From Mikae. I was laughing. You was laughing at the show. From Mikae in Queensland, in Australia,

it's Lauren Mappney. Lauren Mappney, I barely even, yeah, I don't know, I don't really work when they're already doing. Lauren, I'm just going to try to say we hear, mate, Lauren, famous for whatever happens tomorrow, I had my choice. Jesus, the robot's tried so hard to think, isn't it? Whatever happens tomorrow, I had my choice. I'm not sure, it's not.

Lauren, not me. Thank you so much to Lauren Melanie, you and Captain Bond, Caitlin Leham, Fire, Cammy and Michael. The last thing we need to do here is welcome a few people into the TripTitch Club. Dave, you explain it so well. How does it work? This is our, basically our tribute show, our lounge, our clubhouse, our hangout zone, our chill pad. For people that have been supporting the show,

for three consecutive years, on the shout out level or above, we've already given them a nickname or something you're only around, but to enshrine them forever, we welcome them into the hall of fame. Your name goes up on the board, it goes on a plaque. You run in to the zone, which is a bit of theater to the mind. We've got a band, a Changes every week. We've got Jess behind the bar with some food and cocktails. It's a lovely place to be. On the door, man. And I've got the list of names, three names on the list tonight. When I read out your name, you run on in, Dave will be on the stage. I'm seeing the show hopping up with some hopping up with some weekward play Jess you're behind the bar what's the drink this week? We've got

French martinis you know I put a little French flag and I'm just for fun yeah I got some S cargo it was really gross please don't eat them I've befriended all of the snails yeah yeah they are my friends now yeah don't eat them please don't eat them but we do have French fries also I have befriended the French fries please don't eat them please don't eat it. Please don't eat this week. Just don't eat. Just drink. Just drink. I'm going to have to stomach. You'll be fine. Yeah. And David, you've booked a man who you got. You're never going to believe it. I didn't know that this subject would be set in France. And we have one of France's greatest bands joining us this week. It is ultra vomit. Oh my god are you serious? They will be playing exclusively tracks

that Josephine herself would have played. Because in this you can book anyone including living in dead people and this week's episode was about an entertainer. Yeah you couldn't have gotten Josephine she was. Well obviously that might be coming out. Yeah. That might be next week. I don't know. It's a good point. People often confirm with the last minute, people of this high caliber, they don't want this schedule being published in advance. Dave, are you ready to hop some people up? Let me add them.

All right, here we go. Three names this week, Dave. Firstly, welcome in to the club. You can never leave, which is a good thing from Brooklyn in New York City. It's Brandon Wang. Brandon Wang. Brandon Wang, here for a good thing from Brooklyn in New York City. It's Brandon Wang. Brandon Wang. Brandon Wang, he for a good hang.

Woo! From high wickim in Western Australia, it's Tamara Pots. Tamara Pots. I've got the hot. For Tamara Pots. For Tamara Pots, yeah. It's got your value, but your heart.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And finally from Kririoche in Great Britain, it's Chris Williams. More like great Chris Williams. Go, Britain. I'm guessing I've got Trioche, pretty badly wrong there. That's cannot be Trioche.

Trioche. How would you say? Trioche. Trioche. Drickens Trioche. Is it in Trioche? Trioche. Trioche.

Just the name Chris Williams makes me assume me assume Welsh which means I got no chance Get raunchy with in trotchy. There it is. It is in Wales. Oh well done Yeah, you give me the pronunciation and then I'll work something into it Trioche is that what I said? Oh my god. Trioche holy shit. I'm having a great talky with my mate from Trioche There it is. Well, go into the club, grab yourselves a martini, or whatever just said. French martini. French martini.

Enjoy ultra vomit. Enjoy the ultra vomit, which is extra good if you don't eat this week. I think it's fun. On themetalarchives.com, the genre is death metal slash grind core early. Then various later, their themes are humor and parody. Oh, they're fun bands.

They sound like they're good. The party's gonna go all that long tonight. Welcome into the club, Chris Tamar and Brandon, make yourselves at home, enjoy UltraVomit. And yeah, that brings us to the end of the episode. Anything we need to tell people before we go? That you can suggest a topic. There's a link in the show notes.

It's also over on our website, dogoonpod.com. And you can find us on socials at dogo on pod and do go on podcast on tiktok. We're huge over there. Have you want to see these faces talk the talk? Which some people said they find very upsetting. Check us out on tiktok. Absolutely. Yep, Instagram.

Yeah, our faces. We're talking now. Yeah, we're old. We're on Instagram. Go there mostly. I was going to say we're all in our 30s, that's not true, was it? Oh, I'm millions of years old.

It's great to go under the windy city last year, or this year. Really this year? To say, where my younger brother, younger brother's doing, the wind. Ha ha ha ha. It's always good to catch up with a little bro. But yeah, anyway, all of those things and Dave, booted home.

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