Two In The Think Tank - 430 - The Sinking of the Costa Concordia

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

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My name is Dave W会ke, and there's a place on me with Matt Stewart. I'm Jess Berkins. Hello Dave. Hello Dave. That was a nice touch. A little point at Jess. A little. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry outkett. Hello. Hello Dave. That was a nice touch. Little point at Jess. A little, no. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry out of the periphery. It tickled me. Like, I have a little point at the camera because we've started cutting out clips for TikTok and Instagram. So the cameras are always rolling. I just thought it would be funny. I said, well, I'm going to do go on, point to the camera.

But then you'll laugh up. But why would we ever use the intro as a clip on TikTok? That's the idea of, I don't know, one day whoever is editing the video is Simon or Jam Fantastic work. If they ever see that back, it just made me laugh. Yeah, it's for them more than anything. I reckon we should do an episode where we just record the whole thing at one time.

Maybe this could be that one. This could be it. Thumbs up. Welcome to the show. How are you going? Personally, yeah, I'm doing fantastic. 2024, what. This could be it. Thumbs up. Welcome to the show. How are you going? Personally, yeah, doing fantastic. 2024. What a year to be alive.

Even though we're recording this in 2023, that doesn't matter. Shut up. Shut up. In this podcast, we're in the future. Yes. And I'm a little oven it. It's fine.

Like, that's your January. January, more like fabulous, it wary. Yes. That would be better for February. That would be way better for February. Jan, man, man, what a good time I'm having you wary. God, that's good. That's better.

Awesome. Yeah, I'm glad we workshoped that. That's your best work since Blockbustertober. And just how you... I'm dressed as Luigi today. We have to put the video on now. Yeah. And I won't be taking any questions.

It's a UJ. Apart from that, I just wish I was never born. So, you know, um, that's funny, because I was just thinking how good it'd be a love. Wow. That's a bit of a rhetorical question, but feel free to answer it if you want to. Fantastic. That's what I was angling for when I asked how you were both going, I don't genuinely care.

You didn't want me to ever thought of the fact that I look like Luigi. No one is to know. Do you, what, you, we're just sort of dancing monkeys with our catchphrases now? It's a human catchphrase to me. Look, I don't, I don't, I think that might be a time to retire them then. I don't know when we started them, but maybe today's the day

is they stop. Do you want to end them? Yeah. Okay. What's the kill them? You kill mine, cool yours. Great. Do you bring your gun?

Of course. I never go anywhere without it And then next week we'll have new catchphrases. Yeah, how about that as soon as people start saying Do you catch fries that I'm out I agree? I'm not a seller. That was fun before now Yeah, you ruined a day as per usual you ruined everything you ruined everything Anyway, thanks for having us on your podcast. It's so good to be here on your podcast Thank you so much for joining me on your podcast. On my podcast. Yes.

But honestly, I know it is my podcast, but Matt, how do you describe what you think this is? What I think it is, what I know it is. I came up with this concept. So what it is is the Strayiverse of France. And from our friendship, a love has grown for knowledge. And each week one of us goes away by ourselves. And research is a topic usually suggested by a listener.

The other two missed them because they've gone off by themselves. We're here for them for a bit. We are for you and we're here for your new knowledge. Sorry, I need to go to the categories to get some knowledge. So then once we return from the categories back into the podcast studio, or we bring that knowledge sort of in a pretty, you know, light-ish report, kind of like almost like you're doing a high school year 11, yeah, oral presentations.

I love it. You're like, not good enough for your 12-feel year 11. We finished school decades ago and yet continue to do this to ourselves, which is smart. I love doing it. So I'm here recently. school is when I peaked. You know, did you know, was the homecoming king and queen and queen you're on the floor. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Well you called about the flowers the quarterback. Whoa. Wow. We also the lady the day the scouts were there though. No. Which was unlucky. Yeah, I'll never live up to those hearts again. That's why I love doing the show.

Yeah. Because it makes me remember those good times of hospital. And you're the Queen B of this show. Yeah, I am the Queen B. That's right. Bitch. Still flushing my head down the toilet as well. Yeah. And I've got a cherry bomb that's gonna go in after you later. Oh, jeez.

Yeah. It's gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt. Taking that up a notch. So yes, we bring the report back to the class and then we tell the other two who don't See you later. Oh, geez. Yeah. It's not going to hurt. It's not going to hurt. It's not going to hurt. It's not going to hurt. It's not going to hurt. It's not going to hurt.

It's not going to hurt. It's not going to hurt. It's not going to hurt. It's not going to hurt. It's not going to hurt. So, yes, we bring the report back to the class and then we tell the other two who don't know what the topic is. We tell them a story.

They interject and for some listeners are quite tedious and go on some dog shit riffs, which people, some people hate, some people love. I think the people who stick with the show love and the people who don't. Do you then just know that our people, it's fine. There's lots of other podcasts history and there are otherwise out there. So there's too many. There's so many podcasts. So this week Jess has done the research on a topic. You earned for me while I was gone. Oh, we earned so hard. And now Jess is going to get on to that topic with a question for me and Dave.

Jess, what is your question? The two part question. Names are your buzzers. Okay. Okay. Names of my buzzers, okay. Yes, so you first part of the question is this. Name the ABC presenter known for his bushy beard and gardening expertise.

Matt. I didn't answer. My name is Bruno, my name is Matt. Okay, you're out, so Matt. Oh my God, it's of course. What is? It's a Greek name. Sorry that was a buzz that's not I'm not saying you're incorrect because you're actually on the track. Yep. Is it so with this or A? No either. Great you can do this for the whole other one.

Jay. I can't see. Custard. Custard. Custard. I'm afraid I'll have to take Custard. Custard. It's the correct answer. Custard is correct.

Pasta. Pasta con corria. Dave. Oh no. Let me read out. I got to. Name the now discontinued supersonic passenger car commercial airplane known for its sleek appearance and high-speed capabilities. I think I heard Dave. I'm gonna say Concord for that one. I put them together Dave.

Ah, Costa Concord. Correct. I'm afraid Dave. No, he's correct. Change his name to, so none of that was a... Yes, I said Costa Concord Matt, do you want to have a go? Yes Matt. Costa Concordia. Correct. To be fair, you didn't say a go? Yes, Matt cost a concordia correct? To be fair you didn't say now put them together which I did Together he was the E up from that's it's a three-part question just oh, well It's more than the sum of its parts mate. What those two together are you gonna get in here? The question is what do you what do you hear with?

Concord my yeah, yeah here with. Yeah. Concord. Yeah. Yeah. So, right. Correct. I got, there was a group effort.

People can comment on Spotify, the podcast. And on one recently, they had a go at how Dave, you and I, an Irishman said that they can't stand how we say cobra. And I was good. I was good. It's that how the Irish say cobra. No, no idea. I was good because I actually say cobra. I do. But to the cobra. It's that how the Irish say cobra. I don't know, I didn't know. I actually say cobra.

I do, yeah. But you say cobra. So I feel like we've got both bases covered there. Well, maybe there's a third Irish base. Get the third base with an Irishman. Oh my god. That's the dream. That is the dream.

I don't know. Just you're the best at doing Irish. Can you think of how you would say cobra? Cobra. Cobra. Cobra. I like it. Cobra. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no why they're confused, but costing on courtier, I'm very excited about this. Yes. Well, there's ones that I'm aware of, the headline of it. Of course.

No more information. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was, it was well within our lifetime. It was in 2012. Yeah. So we were aware of it in the news and stuff like that. Yeah. It's been suggested by a lot of people, including, there's so many.

Gem had it from Br Brighton in the UK. John Mackacon from New Jersey. John Bowery from North Shields. Dan Marshall from Mitchum in Melbourne. Tristan Thornton from London. Lauren from Bristol. Michelle El Huber from St. Louis. Jamie Alcantara from London.

Allison Beverly Day from Lehigh in Utah, Victor from Madrid, Tom Langford from the UK, and Ben Johnson from Milton Keynes. Oh, there's a lot of Europeans. I'm guessing this is a European event based on the suggestions. Do you know not much about it either? No, I think it's a boat. Yeah? No, I think it's a boat.

Yeah. Yeah, I think it's a boat. Okay, great. Uh, and I think, is it Italian? Yes. Okay, there you go. I said Europe. Yeah, yeah, and that counts.

So Italy's in Europe, Dave. Yes, I was adding, he was narrowing it down. Well, it's just a yes and rather than a correction. No, it just feels like an arm actually. I suppose this is a team building game. Yeah. And when I tell you, I'm actually your team building sucks. This isn't team building right now, Davis.

Team tearing it apart. Your tearing apart. Boys boys. Your tearing my team apart. Lisa. Lisa, thank you. Oh my god, weird episode. Yeah, weird Angie.

It is hot. I'm not used to my God, weird episode. Yeah, weird NG. It is hot. I'm not used to being sitting in the middle. Yeah, you and I have swiveling. For the first time in about, oh, since we've been in this studio, we've been what, two years. We've always sat there. How do you do this, Jess? Yeah.

From where I was sitting, I just looked straight ahead at you too. Totally, I'm actually loving this. This sucks. You tricked me. I think it's fine when one of you is doing the report because I tend to just sort of turn that way. So yeah, I'd be sitting like you are now just sort of facing me and some Dave. But I'm over here. But when you're doing the report, it's hard because I find I often look at Dave a lot more than every now and then I'm like, whoop, better throw one over the mat. Hmm. But that's because I'm needier than he is. Yeah, and you better to look at.

Thank you. Anyway, the Costa Concordia was a 290 meter luxury cruise ship built by Carnival Corporation in 2004. I think it was like slightly bigger or longer than the Titanic. That's almost 300 meters. It's so long. It's so big, isn't it?

It's unbelievable. It's crazy. It's so long isn't it? I'm believable. It's crazy Yeah, it's so long that you say and Bolt will get tired running from one side to the other That would be a powerful or at a golf course. Puff or I guess. I don't know. Maybe it'd be a short par four I guess We both have different scales. It's however you like to I mean how many Olympic pools would it be? Oh six So you know, it's like we'll just have different scales yeah they were 13 public decks each named after a European country do you want to have a stab at any of the decks Sweden yes I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it was at an M maybe it was an M somewhere in the middle somewhere in element a no Somewhere in LMNNO. LMNM. LMNM. LMNM. LMNP. LMNP.

LMNP. And there is a P. Yes, Portugal. No. Portugal is correct, actually. Thank you. Portugal is one is another P. Poland.

Poland, correct. One that sounds like us. Oh sure. Correct. Daves from there. Germany. Correct. I'm from there.

I'm correct. Correct. Irish people from there. I'm. Correct. I wish people hate that. They do. There's an Irish person there going. You're not from there. You're not from there. And I say, have a fucking look at me. Okay.

Okay. I got really fair skin. I got dark hair. I got green eyes. Okay. They hate it. Yeah. I'm fifth generation Australian. Thank you so much. To that person, I say, alright. They hate it. Yeah, but I'm fifth generation Australian. Thank you so much. To that person I say, alright. Cobb rock. Yeah. Now, really fucking ghetto. Yeah. Once we've missed I think a Holland, Belgium, Greece, Great Bit, Britain, France, Spain.

I'm so glad you didn't, I could skip going. That's a huge list. It almost sounds like we would have struggled to miss. It's everywhere in Western Europe, basically. Yeah. I thought it would be kind of fun. But it's a big F-Udon Norway. Yeah. Mm. Really upsetting. That's fun. So you'd say like tonight on Sweden deck, we'll be having a little bit of bocky.

Yeah, exactly. Or like a... Which would be weird. Well, you wouldn't do bocky in Sweden. You know, Ragen? No. You didn't. Why can't Swede play bocky?

Yeah, mate bulls there. Are you going to be specifically... I don't think it does. I don, I can not. I can't Swede's play Bochi. It made balls there. Are you going to be specifically trying to fight tax furniture? Is there anything else Sweden does? And you'd have blonde here. Yeah, all the blondes are on one level. Blondes only. It's just that they thought it would be kind of sweet. It's just come across really creepy and like kind of

discriminatory. But the name Concordia was intended to express the wish for continuing harmony, unity and peace between European nations. Right. That's similar to why Concordia was picked as a name for the plane. Really? Yeah. You know what I said that? Nope. It's funny that they've done this as a way to bring all Europe together, but

they've excluded a bunch of countries. Yeah. Well, not you though. How many decks do you want them to have? Well, I just think they have to think that out. Or just like enough decks for all. Yeah. Or nothing.

You have no decks at all. No decks at all. No decks at all. Or deck one is like a whole and sweet. I don't run the all and all there, which is pretty good. Maybe you just go like multiple to each deck instead. Yes. So it's really confusing.

Yeah. Yeah, you make just make up new combos. can scan an avian deck sure you have a they sick of being Always put together Maybe like fucking I want to hang out with Spain all right who are you? I don't arm Switzerland. Okay. We'll have the Swiss spain deck. Oh That doesn't nice. Well combo you going for Dave. Oh I'm probably gonna go for a bit of a Bulgarian for mix with maybe Poland bulging pole yeah a pulching pole that's a good

bulging and the rule is bulging pole only yeah, I'm going to move on to dot point three then. It's a big it's a big ship. It's huge. It's huge. It's huge. Sorry, I'm writing Europe. Love it. It has approximately 1500 cabins, 500 of which had private balconies. Costa Concordia had one of the world's largest exercise facility areas at sea. So of like of ships, it was called the samsara spa. It was a two level 6,000 square meter or 64,000 square feet

fitness center with a gym a Had it Thalas Thalasotherapy pool see water Sauna Turkish bath anacelarium Wow, they see Turkey gets represented. There you go Other amenities included four swimming pools. Wow. It's had five jacuzes and another number of spars. And that made me Google what's the difference between a spariner and a jacuzi?

And there was no difference. Jacuzi is just a brand. But there's spars as well. So maybe do they mean like day-spar type places? Oh, wow. How many spars? Well, five jacuzes and maybe like three type places? I don't know. Wow, how many spars? Well, five jacuzzi's and maybe like three spars. I don't know.

Right. A poolside movie theater, five restaurants, 13 bars, including a cigar and con, and con-yak bar and a coffee and chocolate bar. So it's not just like alcohol bars, even though the cigar one is anyway. Do you say there was a swim up cinema? There's a pool side movie.

But is that only watch the whole movie from within the water? You can do, yep. I never liked that. Or sitting, you can sit on like the banana land stuff. I can. I think that's a pool. Sorry. I was thinking about it.

I don't want to float here for an hour and a half. I don't know. I don't know if I'm a kid that was, they'd call them dive-in cinemas. And the local pool would just have it fall out a big screen and you'd float on a RYLO and what you'd do. Usually he sound like you're from the past but now he's not like you're from the future. Really? Time is cyclical.

Wheel out the... Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty fun. It's interesting you met. You say he sounds like he's from the future. Because some of the other amenities, there was a three level theater, like a proper full on theater, a casino,

and a futuristic disco. Whoa. I don't know what that means. It just means the DJ is wearing foil. Yeah. And they're playing like craft work. It's all bleeps and bleeps. Bleep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, I hate his future the best future. The magical time I thought it would be everyone wearing alfoil. There was an arcade, a basketball court and a grompru racing simulator.

So this ship has everything. It's also sunk before it's left of the bay. So heavy with all this crap. You could be sitting in a theater watching a show, like a proper theater with like balcony seating above you and everything. And then you just have to remind yourself, I'm on a boat. I'm on a boat. And what about like the Shakespearean actors that kind every night? I can't believe I'm doing this.

I'm doing this on a boat. On an international waters. Yeah. It's not whatever you like, change the Bards script. In a casino. On a rural area. In a restaurant, it's wild. And I, yeah., was there any I've got to ask any water slides? Probably in the four pools surely because when I was in the Bahamas a few months ago

It's like a famous cruise ship port city Nassau and When we went into town, which was saying a bit further away. They're all lined up Well, it's crucial because they stopped there and the people come up have a day there and then move on to another place in the Caribbean. And they're all lined up and they look like they were competing with each other to have a bigger water slide. Like, over the top, someone going round, one of them had a roller coaster.

On a cruise. Yeah. That would wrap the ship to wrap around the ship. Absolutely wild. No. Yeah. Simply no. So they are, like, they feels like they're pushing the boundary

and like, basically taking the piss about what you can put on a ship. Yeah, it's wild. It's weird that cruise ships have done this and big aeroplanes haven't, you know? Yeah, man, I'd love to go on a water side on aeroplanes. And water side on aeroplane, casino on an aeroplane, you know, they make you just sit needs little seats.

Yeah. Room it out a bit. Yeah. So let's wander around Just like scale it up so the planes, you know, exactly 20 times bigger Yeah, and we've all got room to move about have a gamble go in the pool It means it takes a little bit longer. Yeah, at least I'm comfortable Yeah, that's right And even if you have to put the plane on the water and make it float. Yeah, exactly. Just do that

Just go over. Yeah, like one of those water planes. Exactly. You don't even have to put the plane on the water and make it float. Yeah, exactly. Just do that. Just go over here. One of those water planes. Exactly. You don't want to water plane actually, do you? Why not? You can lose traction. Nothing to grip. Yeah, you're right. One of the tires gripping. Anyway, so that's a, you know, a little like a, I don't know, an audio tour of the ship. I'm imagining it, and it's huge. It's massive. The ship was captain by 52 year old Italian shipmaster Francesco Scatino. So they're in good hands. They're in good hands.

They're in good hands. He was born into a sea faring family in Campagna and attended the nautical institution Nino Bixio, before getting work at a ferry company. And in April of 2002, he was hired by Costa Corsier. It's so good that you're doing an Italian report dressed as Luigi. Hahaha.

Hahaha. To get into character or it felt, I don't know, my pronunciation would have been quite right. Because you nailed that one, man. I don't know if I did. And telling him to like, what the fuck is she saying? Well, as someone who is one 16th Swiss Italian, I can say you are spoiled all.

Thank you so much. So he was hired by Costa, which is a subsidiary of Carnival Corporation. Carnival. Carnival. He started out as a security official before moving up to second in charge. Okay, that's an interesting leap isn't it, yeah? I'm so sick, security official.

Just wait. In 2006, he was promoted to captain and given command of the newly launched Costa Concordia. In just four years, he's gone from security guard to captain. I love that. Someone who's just pulling themselves up when they're in boot shops. You know, I remember when I worked at Safeway Supermarket and the store manager when I got the job he said to me, I was working as a trolleyboy. It was 14, 15, and he goes, I started out as a trolleyboy as well. Now I run this whole store, so work hard, anything's possible. And four years later, I was the captain of a ship. We don't talk a lot about your ship days.

No, we don't talk about it, do we? I wish we could, actually he's going to come in great handy here because it's a lot about space on a ship. Cool, yeah. I can give you some money with you. Spaced on a ship. Yeah, yeah. I love the high seas.

So how's he done like training? Well, I get, says he went to the nautical institute. So and he's come from like a, his family have been on ships and stuff. He obviously has some sort of qualification. But really the weird part was when he was a security officer. Yeah. I can't, I know about ships.

Yeah, I know how to, to captain a ship. But I don't know anything about security cameras. You go, go on. You can captain a ship, you can keep people safe anything about security cameras. You go go on captain a ship. You can keep people so that's right. So anyway, who knows you can say not no shoes. They're kind of security on picturing. Is that a velvet or a clipboard? Sorry, not on the list.

Sorry, mate. I said you're not on the list, which is just on. Couple of things worth mentioning at this point. Number one, at the vessels launch on the second of September 2005, the champagne bottle released by model Eva Herzegover failed to break when swung against the hull. That's the first time. This type of occurrence is considered a bad omen amongst these fish. So they've scrapped the ship possibly set fire and started again. I think so. Number two, in November of 2008, while Skatino was captain, high winds over the Sicilian

city of Palermo pushed the ship against its dock, damaging the bow. There were no injuries and repairs were made soon after. And according to Skatino's employer in 2010, as master of the Costa Atlantica, he damaged another carnival corporation ship while entering a port in Germany at two higher speed. Okay, so he doesn't know what he's going to do. He came into a port too fast. So he's parking by field.

Oh, so interesting you say that. So he's got a bit of a track record, but I'm sure that won't come out. I just picked her, he's like you said, just driving a Lamborghini speeding up to the curb, you know, sideway speed. He's making it, making an entrance. He's used to a jet ski where you have to keep accelerating as you turn. You know what I always think about. Well, I was thinking, now this boat keeps getting damaged.

Why, what they should have done is made the whole ship out of whatever they made that champagne bottle out of. Yeah. Unbreakable. Yeah. You should have done is made the whole ship out of whatever they made that champagne bottle out of. Yeah. Unbreakable. Yeah. You should. Yeah, yeah.

Glass. Yeah. The strongest material in the two humanity. Yeah. I didn't see anything around that. And then you'd be able to see everything. Yeah, exactly. Oh, a glass bottom boat for real.

Yeah, a glass side boat, glass top boat. Glass wall boat. Yeah. So I hope you know your neighbors, because you will, intimately. I remember the glass bottom boat fits. Yeah. Inside another bottle, too.

It's a ship in a bottle. A glass ship in a glass bottle. Match man heaven. That's sick. So that's a bit of background on the ship itself and it's captain, but the main event of the report happened six years after the ship was launched. So on January 13, 2012, Costa Concordia departed, you know, I was saying my...

Sivita Vecchia. That sounded beautiful. Italy. And it took off on its first leg of a cruise around the Mediterranean Sea. This was a standard route for this ship made stops in Italy, France, and Spain. It was about 720 pm when the ship departed with 1,023 crew members and 3,206 passengers. So about 4200 people in total. So many people on board, my god. Is that crazy? It's so big and it's multi-level and everything but like but like so many people just on this big giant floating thing It's crazy. I don't I really don't know how I feel about cruise ships Yeah, that's like you see pictures and stuff. It looks great. It looks like Parados But it's so many people trapped on a thing. Yeah, it's trapped on a somewhat dangerous thing

I'm just not sure I also get Seasick so I don't think it's for me the thing is Matt I think after this report you all want to go on a cruise ship even more. Yeah, great. I also get C-Sick. So I don't think it's for me. The thing is Matt, I think after this report, you'll wanna go on a cruise ship even more. Yeah, great. I mean, I'd definitely be up for it. I just never have before. Yeah, yep. We really needed to get previous guest,

Kirsty Webeck on her. Yeah. She works on the high seas. Yes. She loves a cruise. I don't know if she loves it, but she's definitely been on them. Have you done a cruise ship?

No. I've done a smaller one down the, but she's definitely been on them. Have you done a cruise ship? No. I've done a smaller one down the Yanks U river in China. That's right. Maybe you had a hundred guests, I would say. Oh, okay. Maybe 150. Yeah. And there's like, you know, one dining room

that you go to. It feels like if it's not a river, it feels like it's gonna be smaller. Yeah. And the thing is, you can see the sides at all times. Yeah, wow. So, you know, if she goes down in theory, I just got to swim over there.

Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah, whereas in the middle of the ocean, ocean, you can't see the sides. That does feel a little, can't see the sides. See the sides of the ocean. I can't see either side of the ocean right now. It's crazy.

Anyway, so according to Britannica.com, as the Concordia approached Jiglio Island several hours later. Jiglio Island. I'm sorry. Jiglio Island. I'm sorry. Oh my gosh, we're in for a good time here.

That's in English. It deviated from its standard course, moving closer to the small Tuscan Island for a maritime salute, a common practice that included the cruise ship sounding its horn. The Concordia had performed several in the past. So they're doing a little sail by, at the island. That sounds so annoying for residents. Yeah, it is. I'd be like, please, I know this is an out of respect,

but shut the fuck up. And it's really, it's more of like an entertaining thing for the guests on the, for the passengers. It's not for the island. The island, the island. The island are like, it's seven of, shut up. piss off. It's, it's, it's, by this time it's like nine p.m.

They're like, fuck off. This happens every night with different cruise ships. Go away. So we're, we're only a couple of hours into the journey and this is where things start to go wrong. Oh. Britannica continues. The area was known for rock outcroppings

and at some point such a formation was noticed in the ship's path. Skatino, a captain of more than seven years, ordered a change in course, but due to a language issue, the Indonesian helmsman steered the boat in the opposite direction. Oh, that's a, yeah, that's a big language problem.

Quick tidbit here, the helmsman, Jacob Rusly Bin, was new to the job. He'd been hired very cheap. Ruffly Bin. What a name. He's a Russell Lee Bin. Guys, could you keep it down over there? Which one I record a podcast? And that, it's been too rustling. That is a Russell Lee Bin.

I think the fan is catching it a bit. And the plastic is just sort of crinkly. Is it just filled with chip packets? What is it that's been? It is, that is quite a cacophony. I believe that of the thousand noises you've got in your arsenal, Matt. Rustly bin might be one, is that correct?

Yeah, Rustly bin is one, yeah. What was that? Oh, I think that was number seven or something. Oh, well, it's quite high up early. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You went to the first request. You went to the essentials. Yeah.

Why did you want to hear it? If you were mine, I'd love to request number seven. So, low-ish braises, you know, fans on setting two. Oh, okay, yeah. It's swiveling, so you will hear, I mean, I don't need to say this, you'll hear it, but you'll hear that the fan is not hitting the rustley bin. Yes, as an oscillates. And then as an oscillates, it hits the rustle, and then back here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool. Great. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You have to admit that bin is quite rusty. It's rustling, it is distracting. And that's on a low. That's on a low. Yeah. We put the fan up to five, just for the last request. What was that sound?

A five. Oh So would you turn that bloody fan on there? Yeah turn it down at the very least that's a bloody rustle Every now and then I come to my what are we doing? You remember the context? This actually has context. Did you believe that? How do we get it here? It's sure that they have, it's silly. So he's an Indonesian man.

Yes, he's just been hired. He's new. I'm sure he must have some nautical qualifications in order to get the job. But previous work experience included time as a painter and a cleaner. Okay. And he neither speaks English nor Italian. Okay, so third language that this person used on the high seas.

On this Italian ship? Pointing. It's been a pointing. Most of the crew at least speak basic English. I'm sure he must have some. Right, because I feel like what he he's not fluent, so yeah. In aviation, like, don't all parts have to know English because that's the international one that was picked

that they all can communicate. Sure, there's something where they can communicate with this person who steers the shit. That does feel like it should be important that there's a communication there. Yes. You know, it would have been perfect in the scenario. Me and you're right.

Uh-huh. I spoke English already. Yes. Well, yeah, as well as I do. Yeah But I in year eight I was also learning Italian and Indonesian. Oh That was in the perfect you are the triple three. I would have been the perfect time for me to get a gig on the cost to Concordia. Yeah, remember how to say left or right in other language? No But at the time or that's what I said in year eight not now Just as looking at up. No, I'm pretty sure left in Italian is something like Sinister.

It's like Sinister. Left in Australia. It's a lantern. Sinister. Sinister. Sinister. Beautiful. I don't remember what right is.

Ah, correct. Correct, doll. You want me to turn the ship correct, doll? Yes. Yeah, turn it in the right direction. Correct. Correct. Do you want me to turn the ship correct? Yes. Yeah, turn it in the right direction. Correct. So the captain has said, up, there's some rocks up ahead, change course, the Indonesian Hellsman has did the boat in the wrong direction.

To what rock? Back to Botanica. It reportedly took 13 seconds to correct the maneuver. The boat's bow ultimately swung clear, but the stern collided with the reef at approximately 9.45 pm. Confusion on the bridge resulted in conflicting orders, but the damage had been done. The Concordia's port, the left side, had suffered a 174 foot or 53 meter tear.

Wouldn't have happened to a glass boat. No. No. A glass doesn't tear. Yeah, challenge that. Yeah. Wouldn't have happened to a glass boat. No, no class doesn't tell Yeah challenge that yeah, I like a hero. Hi Doesn't tell does glass tear yeah, yes or no, you're good I'm no, no, yes or no, yes or no question. We can move on after that, but yes or no right now. No, I guess it doesn't thank you

We're competing which is like a website I found Wikipedia.org sort of has like Information about ships. Oh cool. Oh, I guess that's what I hadn't found it before because I was gonna guess that was in Indonesia. I was gonna ask matter if you'd heard of it, but right about ships. Okay, it says it was a hundred and fifteen feet or thirty-five meters So there's a fair difference there, but I'm leaning towards believing Britannica. Okay, okay, right, but still sorry It's a big gash there, but I'm leaning towards believing Britannica. Okay. Okay, right. But still sorry. It's a big gash right on the side. How many meters was the 50 meters? 50 meters? I think it's like nearly 300 meters long.

So it's all big sections. Yeah, that's a great. 50 meters, what is that? Yeah, it's probably like a half wedge. Half a wedge. Half a wedge. Half a wedge. Half a wedge.

Another grain. Yeah, that's right. Thank you for putting in. I did. I played golf once last year, so I think I know what I'm talking. Yeah, did you use the wedge? Yeah, I think it's Sandra otherwise. I think I've ordered the sand that day Oh, I had and I had quite a lot of shots as well Wow, so that makes it even more really good. Yeah, I'm really good. I eat the shot. I had plenty of opportunity to hit it into the sand I didn't Managed a dodger every time pretty crazy. I thought did of opportunity to hit it into the sand. I didn't. I

managed to dodge it every time pretty crazy. I did 18 holes with a putter That's clear. I think I probably would have played better if I used that tactic. So yeah big old hole on the side of the ship The important thing to note is that the gash is below the waterline. Oh great You know like when you like put a statically screen on the couch and you go actually this is where the pillow goes anyway. Yeah. No one will ever say you know that. You know when you do that. You know when you do that. Yeah. Yeah. You know when you shoot on the couch. Yeah. When you like. And the back corner of the couch you guys hang on.

And the other thing about it being by the way that like positive pressure will mean the air inside the boat will keep the water out I suppose. I would assume so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The impact she had too long So the positive pressure will mean the air inside the boat will keep the water out, I suppose. I would assume so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The impact shared two long strips of steel from the ship's hull.

These were later found on the seabed 92 to 96 meters from the main island. Five compartments, including the engine room, were flooding. And the ship soon lost power. Oh, it's flooded the engine. Don't ride it. Don't ride the clutch mate. Come on mate. No you just gotta...

Do you remember that ad? These, you know. Don't ride the clutch. It was like a dad teaching his kid out of the job. Stop riding the clutch! Don't remember that ad. My real life version of that, and I'm sure I've told you before,

was my dad going, Gata, Gata, he's on the... He's not used to be on the passenger side. So he was just like, endlessly paranoid that I was riding the, he's not used to be on the passenger side. So it was just like endlessly paranoid that I was riding the Gata, I was gonna hit the Gata, Gata, Gata, he did, it was not a chilled out driving instructor, Gata, Gata, don't ride the Gata, don't ride the Gata. So engine's gone, is there only one engine room, so that's it for the engine? I guess so. Okay. And then the electricity the power's gone Yes, that's not good because in addition with neither the engines nor the rudder functioning the ship couldn't be steered

So they're just kind of stuck they've lost all power They can't steer it and can I just ask so they've gone along the rock they're not stuck on it They're just now floating with a big hole in the side. Yeah, kind of. Feeling up with water, I assume. Yeah. Oh, dear. Um, Skatino, this is from Wikipedia.

Skatino said that before approaching the island, he turned off the alarm system for Costa Concordia's computer navigation system. He said, I was navigating by sight because I knew those sea beds well. Good. I'd done the move three, four times. Oh, okay, great. You're next time. So he knows them well, like the back of his hand, he doesn't need that it compute an navigation system.

He can do this by eye at night. The thing that would flash up and say there's a rock there, but don't hit that bit. Correct. So he turned that off, because he's like, oh, I've got this. He told investigators that he saw waves breaking on the reef and turned abruptly, swinging the side of the hull

into the reef, admitting to a judgment error, Skatino acknowledged ordering the ships turned too late. The captain initially said the ship was about 300 meters from the shore, which is only the length, it's the length of the vessel, they're really close, and it hit an uncharted rock. The ship's first officer, Chiro Ambrosio, told investigators, Gatino had left his reading glasses in his cabin,

and repeatedly asked Ambrosio to check the radar for him. So he's turned off the system. He doesn't have his glasses on. He's doing it by sight. Right. Good. I'm not asking someone to go get the glasses. No, he's just like, what's the rate I say? Yeah, that way fine. So, a couple of things here, yes, the sale past salute had been approved by Costa Cruz's managers in 2011 for a daytime sale to coincide with a festival that was happening on the island.

So, because he was sort of like, they said I could do it. It's like, blah. It's like on a specific cruise. They had approved it for a different time, but you weren't really supposed to, wasn't playing it. He said they had given him or they told him to do it on this particular cruise, but I don't know if that's true.

I just thought it was an open invitation. Whenever. If you're ever about, just have a, you can do it, whenever it's all cruise. Just a cruise by, anyway. On deck, most passengers were in the dining room, and the dining hall, the time of the impact. They heard a sudden loud bang,

which a crew member said over the intercom was due to electrical failure. So they come over the loudspeaker, they're like, don't worry, it's fine. Just an electrical failure. Quick, quick, quick. Electrical failure doesn't make me feel super confident. No, that doesn't sound good.

No. What's the work, like,, most are in the dining room. That's not a good place to be. You know, you're putting a fork up to your mouth. Not idea, but what's the worst place on a boat? Toilet. Toilet, water slide. Water slide. Or that make the water slide better.

That would be more exciting. Yeah. What if you're like sitting in a mouse trap or something? Oh yeah, yeah. Shaving. Shaving. That would be bad. Shaving your neck. Shaving your balls. bad shaving your neck. Oh

Why didn't you do that before the cruise? I didn't think I was gonna pick up on our house. I mean a minute Honestly, I did it. It's just very fast growing hey We did a couple of hours of leaving already got it back to my room Why was I Don't worry. I just want to take it. Why would you say, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, it's so much blood. I don't worry, I've still got one left. That's a big gash. I've all bought off.

I'm not giving up this opportunity. Passionages were assured that there was nothing to worry about, and that everything was under control. But pretty soon, the ship lost cabin electrical power shortly after the initial impact. A passenger later said the ship started shaking, the noise, there was panic, like in a film, dishes crashing to the floor, people running, falling down the stairs. It was quite quickly people were like, fuck. So they've hit rocks. There's a massive gas in the side of the ship. The engine room is flooded and the ship has no power. But they're quite close to shore, is that right?

Yeah, they are. Okay. Without propulsive power and no emergency electrical power, it kind of just, it was just floating a little bit. It sort of moved through inertia and the settings of her rudder, it just sort of continued to kind of float a little bit. Just after 10pm, Cossack and Gordia, it's sort of the ship turned south slightly and the vessel was then listing to starboard. Now listing is the nautical term when a ship takes on water and tilts to one side. So when it's listing, it's sort of kind of tilting over.

Getting ready to go to the shops. So it's listing. So it's tilting on the side that hasn't been hit. Is that right? To hit on the port. How does that make sense? I don't know, maybe like the water comes in on the left side and then it starts filling out, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Tilting away from the rock that it would. Yeah, that makes sense to me because it'd be coming in from and then if it's tilting it because if it was tilting the other way, the water would be going out again. Yeah.

I'm not a scientist. Yeah, but I do think of the flood of the engine, like I did that with my lawmoral once. Yeah. And I think it was because I started on a cold day or something. Oh. And I think, so mate, did they, do you think, and then I didn't let it to run or something.

I think of more of a bit of a moat ahead. I should say that. I'm a bit of a gear head, a bit of a machine head. There are a few bands that I know the names of. But the, so I just wonder if maybe they started the ship on cold and that's flooded the end. That's probably it. And the reef was just an unfortunate coincidence.

Yeah, they blamed it on the rocks. Oh, it's a lecturer failure. Oh, it's a reef. Oh, oh. They really, they just didn't warm up the end. It's not a barris. It's not a flooded engine. We just have a giant hole in the side of the ship.

Yeah. Great cover story, great cover story. How fast can they go? Do they go fast? Crucipes? Yeah, pretty quick. You know, they go nautical quick. I like how things are nautical miles.

Yeah, not so many not so soon do. And it means enough. But you get not bang on the side. I love that. I love that. It's under the hood. It's because I don't know what any of the answers mean. On the plane one time. Was it with you Dave? I knocked on the plane.

What did they say? Some sort of still. I don't think it was down with my ear, but there. I think it's sick of it. What do you mean, it's? What's this? This looks pretty solid. Anyway, so it's listing now, initially by about 20 degrees,

and it sort of came to rest kind of settled at 10, 45 pm. So it's tilting on the right side. It's taking on water from history.com. The safety of his passengers and crew wasn't Skateno's number one priority as he assessed the damage to the Concordia. The impact on water leakage caused an electrical blackout on the ship

and a recorded phone call with Costa, Cresciere's crisis coordinator, Roberto Ferrani, Ferrero Ferrani, showed he tried to downplay and cover up his actions by saying the blackout what was what actually caused the accident He's like, no, there's a blackout and then we hit a rock because of the blackout. Oh, that's good I was gonna say you can't black your way out of a huge gas tank So but he's blaming the crash on the blackout. Yeah, I thought the maybe was going to say it was like that when I got on. This holds me right. You're the last captain. This is my crazy.

Can't it? It's sort of like when you pick up a hire car. You have to check it for scratch. I see this Nick here. I want you to write that on the incident report. Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm come. I'm being generous calling it a Nick.

That's a gash, mate. That's a gash right there, mate. I'll still Nick here. I want you to write that on the Instagram. Yeah, well, yeah, I'm, come on. I'm being generous calling it a Nick. That's a gash, mate. That's a gash right there, mate. I'll still take it. Now Jess, you did say it wasn't his first priority. How far down the list was it? Pretty far down, I think. Yeah.

And Dave, you could probably tell from now, what was his first priority? Probably having a smoker. Yeah, okay. Smoker, mate, it's me. Smoker, come on. So if I miss it now, I won't have one for ages. Yeah um

And this is part of what's recorded on that phone conversation. He says I've I have made a mess and and practically the whole ship is flooding Oh my god, he's pissed himself There are changing I've made a mess I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad These pants are unbearable. Help me, yeah, come on. Come on, I've worked with the company for eight days, please. That one respects a captain with soggy pants. They're not looking me in the eye. Everyone's looking in the crotch. They're like, can you smell pants?

No, no, I'm not, I'm caused that. No, no, that smell was here when I got here. Oh my God. He goes on to say, what should I say to the media? To the port authorities, I have said that we have had a blackout. What should I say to the media? You could have done a press conference. He's just, as old as this.

He just, it's like he knows he's fucked up and he's just sort of like, I've got to get myself out of this. So it's continued and immediately alert the Italian search and rescue authority about the accident. The impact on the rocks occurred about 9.45 pm local time. The first person to contact rescue officials about the ship was someone on the shore, according to the investment report. One source I read said a woman on board called her mother, who wasn't on the ship, who

then called like the authorities. And the captain didn't. But hasn't the captain also the cost of the authorities. But the captain didn't. But hasn't the captain also the costume and courtier crisis manager? Is he not told anyone? How many crisis? And so he's not on the ship.

He's on land and he hasn't told anyone. And he's probably been waiting for this phone call for four years. How many of you, how many of the ships go down? It's your time to show him. Come on, man. You don't even call the police. Not saying any of the... Call the ambulances?

Yeah, I don't think they've handled this very well. Well, they get worse. So search and rescue contacted a ship a few minutes after 10 pm, but Skatino didn't tell them what had happened for about 20 more minutes. And even when he did finally tell them that yes, the ship is taking on water, all he requested were tugboats.

Oh, you love tugboats. I fucking love tugboats. They're so love tugboats. Oh, fucking love tugboats. They're so little and powerful. Yeah. They're so cute. He's like, I don't need rescue boats or any nearby ships or Coast Guard or the Navy or anything. Just give us a toe back out and we'll be on that.

Yeah, just send us out. I just need a couple of lucky straps. I'll be able to sort this one out. Yeah, we just need a jump start. Thanks. Thanks for the help. We'll be fine. We'll be alright. 20 minutes you are. Don't Yeah, let's go. We'll be fine. I love how you're on.

20 minutes you won't, don't tell me there's another smoker. She's the timing. This has been unlucky, isn't it? This is going to be a big day after this. I'll miss the next smoker. So I'll just have two now. Yeah. And then I'll get into, I'll get into gear.

Yeah. Yeah. But I'm really going to take my time. So about half an hour after the impact, passengers had gathered at muster points in their life jackets as they'd been instructed to do by crew. Okay, I'm glad that that's happened. Well, there's video of a crew member telling passengers

we've solved the problems, and we invite everyone to return to their cabins, which is not the case. Has anyone, that information is not correct in any way? No, not in any way. Does a person saying it believe it? Who knows? Unsure about that one.

Hissher.com again says, a little more than an hour after impact, the crew began to evacuate the ship. But the report noted that some passengers testified that they didn't hear the alarm to proceed to the lifeboats. Evacuation was made even more chaotic by the ship listing so far to Starboard, making walking inside very difficult

and lowering lifeboats on one side near Impossible because the ship is hanging on its side, so you can't lower the lifeboats from that side, right? I imagine that it's probably 50 50 So it's still waiting still listing. Yeah, so they get everything's fine We'll fix the problem and they're all on a diagonal. Yeah, like rooms, everything's falling under their covers. Yeah. And everything's fine. Head back to your room.

I think a show's starting in 15 minutes. Yeah, we've got my best starting in 15. You've got time to grab a drink so you can go to the toilet before the show. We're doing a bit differently tonight. We're calling it a drunken Macbeth. So if you see him sort of wobbling around with that, yeah. That's why. Just a bit of fun.

Anyway, so yeah, they can't move around. Making things worse, the crew had dropped the anchor incorrectly, causing the ship to flop over even more dramatically. Oh, if you're not dropping an anchor correctly, I think, yeah, we're in Strafi. That feels like, that teacher that day one. Surely. Day one. That's day one anchor.

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Now I'm off to ride a hip. From Wiki, some passengers jumped into the water to swim to shore, while others, ready to evacuate the vessels, were delayed by crew members up to 45 minutes as they resisted immediately lowering the life. Isn't that amazing that they're going, I don't trust them, I'm just gonna,

I'm just gonna swim for it. I'm just gonna swim for it. they're just I'll swim for it. It'd be the same as walking from one end to the boat to the other. Yeah. That easy. Why don't I just swing the boat around like a walk? He's like a bridge. Yeah.

That makes way more sense. But I imagine that option is an up for, you know, some people will be elderly, some people who live with children, like he can't, everyone just can't swim. Some of them would have forgotten their goggles. I went for a swim yesterday and struggled at 50 meters. Oh, yeah. I was like, oh my God, swimming so hard. Isn't it fun?

I did last summer. I went to a local pool, 25 meters, and it was about to get to the other end. I'm like, oh no. Oh, yeah. I've, I'm on feet. And that's control conditions. And I met.

And that's where the lights were on or you're outside, but this is in the dark. Yes, this is nighttime. So that's scary. Their lights went on, but yeah, the sun was on. The sun was on. The sun was on. It was the sun on, but at the sun roof.

I wrote one time when I was in, visited my cousin in Monte Carlo's the week that Steve Irwin died. Right. My daughter trained down there, saying he was working there or died. And I called her train down there, saying he was working there or something. And we went to this fake beach they have there. And I was a little boy,

the people would swim out to. A buoy. A buoy, so incredible. I was a sort of like a paddling little child of them. But it was basically just like a floating crate on the water and people would swim out there, sit on there, you know, have a little wobble and then swim back.

Do a couple of bombs off of it, yeah. And I got halfway out and I'm like, I'm battling. Yeah. But there's still so far to go. Oh, no. But there's probably just as far or more to get back. I'm like, what do I do? I kept going and I got out to the buoy and just lay on it,

gasping for air, remembering that my cousin who I was just going for a quick swim with is a triathlete. Sure. And I'm like, why did I think he said it was an easy swim? That's not a normal person easy swim. No, no, no, no. And I'm probably not even as good as a normal person at swimming.

But then I'm like, there, gasping, and I've got to make the whole swim back again. I died that day. So this is a bit of a twist, but I've got to make the whole swim back again. I died that day. So this is a bit of a twist, but I've been a ghost this whole time. Oh, my out. Because that was in 2006. That explains why you were white. If you were to estimate how far that wasn't made, this from the shore.

I think it was 20 meters. No, I wouldn would have been 300, but it would have only been 100 probably. So 300, I mean, you know, I'm not making it. It's gotta be some, like, because I did make it back even though I felt like I wanted,

like I wouldn't have been a normal pool probably. There must be something that kicks in a little bit that, if you're swimming for your life, then it's a little extra, but it can't make you do something that's humanly impossible. No. Some sources report that the ship didn't list like didn't tilt until like after 11 and therefore if Skatino had given the order to abandon ship the lifeboats could have been launched earlier allowing the passengers to reach safety in a more safe way. So if you just done the bare minimum early, not self-preservation mode,

he needed to go into everyone preservation mode. In the meantime, he's like being like, what else had in the media? Where's the hair and makeup team? Yeah, that's what I should look about for me. Does this tiger with this shirt? Man, just hit the button that lowers the lifeboat. Come on.

And by the way, I the lifeboat. Yeah. And by the way, I need some pants. Please. Please. Can the hair and makeup people please bring me some pants? I'm still pissing. It won't stop. I don't know how it's happening.

I haven't had that much liquid. I'm honestly scared. What is this now? I can't just be... It's basically dust now. Am I organs melting and coming out, my bladder? Yes. So...

So yeah, he couldn't say... I have it. Yes. I've just been assuming, because they're so close to sure that there's no fatalities. But I'll keep assuming that until you tell me otherwise. So yeah, that was some source of saying that if he'd just given the order there would have been able to love with the lifeboats. Other experts stated that a delay might be justified considering the hazards in launching lifeboats while a ship is moving.

So, okay. The staff or second captain, the staff captain, Roberto Bossio, is said to have coordinated some of the deck officials in much of the evacuation. He began to evacuate the ship before Skatino's order. Many junior officers and crew members who were aware of the severity of the situation also began readying lifeboats and moving passengers from their cabins before the abandoned ship order was given, a move that has been characterized as a mutiny. So this is dangerous, this people have to get off. We have to start evacuating and they've done that before the captain said so, so that is considered a mutiny. So this is dangerous, these people have to get off. We have to start evacuating and they've done that before the captain said so, so that is

considered a mutiny. So it's like you'd call that a good mutiny? Yeah. They need a different word, I reckon. I know, I mean, criticise for that. Oh, I don't think so. Okay. Surely they couldn't.

They've done the right thing in starting to look after people's safety and do their jobs. Yeah. But they're all in jail, yeah. They're all in jail and they deserve to be because of mutiny. They're in the sea jail. Under the ocean. Yeah. Submarine jail.

They're, oh, okay. They're not swimming with the fishes. Can't quite choose sort of stuff. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, They're just underwater. Underwater, they're just in it. They're underwater present. They're in a permanent underwater present. Submarine. Submarine. A permanent submarine. Nothing weird. Okay.

Nothing weird. Just a bit of time. At 10.39, the first rescue vessel arrived. Approximately 15 minutes later, Skatino finally ordered the Concordia abandoned. So he's finally made the abandoned ship call. It was just nearly two hours after hitting a rock. It's a yeah, it's an hour later, Aaron a bit later.

Though as I just said, crew were already taking action to evacuate passengers. He's looked around and gone, abandon ship and he's the only one on the yeah. Oh, I've left this a bit late. I mentioned that some passengers jumped into the water to swim ashore. Three people did sadly drown after jumping into the water. And another seven was seriously injured. Italian coast guard, Navy and Air Force took turns air lifting passengers out. And the local fire chief said his men plucked a hundred people from the water and saved around 60 others who were trapped in the boat.

So there's a lot of people from several different organizations who are doing their best to get people out of the ship safely. Someone who wasn't doing that was the ship's captain. Oh okay. According to investigators, Gatino had left the ship by 11.30pm. Private jet. He didn't even stick around for two hours. Well, the captain always goes down with the ship. So he was probably just popping off to Boston more cigarettes for the next smoker. Yeah. I'm sure we back to go down with the ship. So he was probably just popping off to Bustamor cigarettes for the next smoker. I'm sure we're back to go down with the ship. Well, it's actually it's funny. It's so crazy and not at all his fault because what happened was he fell into a lifeboat. No.

And and once you're in there's no possible way to get out of a lifeboat. He fell, he slipped. Does lifeboat so inflatable ones? You're kidding? It's like being on a jumping car. It's a nightmare. Yeah, that's right. Try and get out of them. He was just like rushing to save everyone. And somebody had left a banana peel or something and he slipped and he fell into the lifeboat.

And that's not his fault. Was this guy basing his life on Billy Zane from Titanic? Incredible stuff. That is completely understandable though. If you fall into a boat, you have to go with the boat. That's now your... The boat's chosen you.

And you're the captain of that boat now. And if you were to leave that boat, that would be a crime. Yeah. You know? The captain of this ship now. The captain doesn't leave you a ship. I go to shore with this ship.

Yeah, exactly. And genuinely though, people tried to get him to go back to the ship and he refused. When he was in a lifeboat, they were like, dude, you've got to go back up there. He's like, la la la la. Thank you. In one, there was like dude you want to go back up there. He's like In one there was a there was several phone calls in one telephone call from the Coast Guard to Skatino

Captain Gregorio DeFelco Repeatedly ordered Skatino to return to the ship from his lifeboat and take charge of the ongoing passenger evacuation At one point in the call DeFelco grew so angry at Scatino stalling that he raised his voice and told Scatino, which literally most likely is get back on board you prick, but depending on the source, some people have translated it as get the fuck back on board, get back on board for fuck's sake, or get on board damn it. Cato is a word that is all encompassing, can be used for so many different things. It's a beautiful word. A beautiful word's a beautiful name for a boy. Yeah.

So little Katsu. Ah, baby Katsu. Despite this talking to us, Gatino never returned to the ship from the lifeboat he fell into. Had Did he literally say fell into it? Yeah, that was part of his thing. He's like, I fell. I thought you were taking a bit of comic class. He said he fell into it. Oh my God. Incredible. I thought you were taking a bit of comic classic. He fell into it.

Oh my God. Incredible. I'll show you a picture of this guy later and you'll be like, it all makes sense. He just looks like an absolute skase. It's incredible. Anyway, so it took several hours to evacuate the ship. At 104, an Air Force official officer who was lowered on board by helicopter reported that there were still a hundred people on board of like there were 4,000 or something

so they've got a lot of people off mostly in lifeboats. I think so and while the ships captain refused to go I think but they were also air lifting people out so I think it's lifeboats and then other smaller boats and air lifting it's a whole whole thing and while the ships captain refused to go back to it, the deputy mayor of the island went on board to help with rescue operations. Wow, that's brave. At 3.44 AM, the Air Force officers reported

that 40 to 50 people were still on board, and at 4.46 the evacuation was noted as complete. But the drama wasn't over because not everyone was accounted for. So the next day, the 14th, the survivors were transported to Porto Santa Stefano in Tuscany, while the Italian Navy, Coast Guard, and Fire and Rescue services searched within the ship for missing people. Pitch black conditions, with large furniture drifting around, made the rescue operation hazardous. Divers would find a path into the ship and tie down obstacles such as

mattresses before making noise to alert trapped people. It sounds like it would just be a really tedious and laborious task. The search dives were planned as 50 minutes in duration and they had extra air tanks positioned within the ship in case of emergency. The divers had two head lamps positioned on their helmets because underwater visibility varied from approximately 80 to 10 centimeters. So, at a wider, you could see 30 centimeters in front of you. Okay, well that's a pretty short part. 30 inches or four inches. You could see maybe 10 centimeters in front of you or 80. Yeah, that's not far. You should be dropping a part from that length. So that first day they searched all day and into the night. And from Wikipedia, divers and firefighters

continued to search for survivors who might have been trapped in the ship and rescued a South Korean newlywed couple who slept through the partial sinking. No way. Only to awake and find they could not open their cabin's door Wow They slept through a shipwreck. That's a deep sleeper. Oh Was it wasn't there wedding night? For their little tired We're asleeping we just thought the

The room was a rock and we so we did that That ever got that Oh that I didn't rock a world she said I did I'm so happy that they got out though I know so and so presumably they kind of the doctors of debris and water and things like that I think so yeah they're door oh they also found their ship one of the ships crew that the person who had a broken leg and wasn't able to get themselves as they saved them. So these three were, sadly, the last remaining survivors. Over the next couple of weeks, rescue efforts continued despite challenging weather conditions and the ship shifting position, although now the efforts will less about rescue and more about recovery. In total,

32 people died in the disaster, and the last body wasn't recovered until November 2014, a couple of years later. Wow. So 32 people died. Man, like, he's, like, there blood on his hands, right? Yeah. But it's not just him who gave him that job. He was clearly so underqualified for,

and who gave a job to a guy who couldn't communicate. Yeah. Like, there's obviously people higher up who have been negligent as well. for and who gave a job to a guy who couldn't communicate. Yeah. Like there's obviously people higher up who have been negligent as well. Yeah. And I did read that like the crew all had at least some basic English. They might not have been fluent, but I'm talking like everybody who worked on the ship. So that's including like cleaners, cooks, everything.

It's less important that they can speak English perfectly in an emergency. Do you know what I mean? Like, of the people steering the ship, you should be able to understand each other really clearly because it's very important for their safety. I know, it's pretty full on. But it's just like this doesn't just magically fix itself. And Britannica does a pretty good job of summarising the aftermath.

So it says with a jiggly or island lying in a protected marine area, environmental issues relating to the Concordia wreck were part or of particular concern. The vessel was on the edge of an underwater cliff leading to worries that the ship might slip and break apart causing an oil spill. To less in any potential damage, oil booms were placed around the wreckage, and in February 2012, salvage workers began removing more than 2,000 tons of fuel. The undertaking was completed the following month, so that's pretty quickly after. Within a couple of weeks, they're trying to get rid of all that and make it as environmentally safe as possible. During this time, work also began to remove the vessel

in what was the largest maritime salvage operation in history. It was not until September of 2013 that the 114,000-ton Concordia was finally righted. The 19-hour process involved specially built underwater platforms, cranes, and some 500 people. In July of 2014, the Concordia, outfitted with a number of steel containers serving as flotation devices,

was towed to Genoa in Italy, where it was dismantled for scrap. So it was set there for ages. And I've seen video from a news story, where people are just like at the beach and the ship is right there. Like people are just like using the beach as normal, having a nice time. Yeah, and the ship's right there.

It's 300 meters away. You can see it so clearly and there was also like people would turn up to take pictures of it. There were little like boat tours you could go on and get up close to it. It just felt and this was soon after. So it felt really icky, very strange, humans, huh? So that was a slow-ish process, but still surprisingly quick, but something that happened much quicker was an investigation into what happened, particularly whose actions were to blame for the disaster and the loss of lives.

Francesco Scatino, who had worked for Costa Cruises for 11 years, and first officer worked for Costa Cruises for 11 years, and first officer, Turo Ambrosio, were arrested. The captain was detained on suspicion of manslaughter and for violations of the Italian penal code and code of navigation on three specifications of his having caused the shipwreck owing to improvements, negligence, and incompetence resulting in deaths, having abandoned about 300 people

unable to fend for themselves and not having been the last to leave the shipwreck. So that is a crime. The captain is legally obligated to be the last. There's a last, yeah. Or maybe I was reading a US thing where it's not technically a law, but they can get in trouble for it. So it's sort of like, I think it is probably a rule then. It makes sense.

I guess so. It's just one of the things you agreed to do when you're. And you're in charge in an emergency and he didn't do anything. Yeah, you're leaving behind. Yeah. You're in charge now, boy. Yeah. But obviously, what do you mean in charge?

What if you fall into a lifeboat? That's not your fault. So you got to get more life to get better. That's not his fault. Yeah, they've got to take that in consideration. Yeah. So you have to, unless one of these things happened falling or about, you know, that can't be bothered.

Can't be bothered to go on. What about you Ron Smokow? On Smokow? Yeah, it's my habit. Have a bit of a headache. Oh yeah. I'm just not big getting out of stuff. Just not feeling it.

Yeah, just not feeling it. But then you at least have to say, guys, I'm not feeling it. Can anybody else do it? Can I ever ask a word? I'll get the next one. Yeah, give a bit of notice. I'm just passing the hat over. Yeah. We don't even do that.

Yeah, that's the issue I think. Yeah, I think he did fall into the boat. He fell into the boat. So he's obviously exempt. On February 23rd, two additional charges of abandoning incapacitated passengers and failing to inform maritime authorities were levied against Skatino. So they're throwing a few things at him. And rightly so. In a little bit of a wild twist, I guess, in February, the Associated Press reported that traces of cocaine had been found on Skatino's hair samples, but not within the hair strands or in his urine, which would have indicated he was using the drug.

So I did see that he was tested for drugs, and there was nothing in his system, but some people thought that was bullshit. They thought that had been falsified. How embarrassing. He doesn't even know how to use cocaine. Yeah, I know. He's probably not his hair.

He thinks it's a striped shampoo. It's a dandruff solution, I think. If any, that's gonna make your dandruff look worse. Yeah. A 2015 report indicated that the ship had been carrying a large amount of mafia-owned cocaine when it sank, although senior officers were likely not aware it was on board. So there was also a shit ton of mafia coke on there. Oh, they're not gonna be happy with him either.

No, he's in trouble. Yeah, he probably wants prison, actually. Yeah. At least you're safe in there. Isn't that fucking wild? Wow, did they, was that recovered? I don't know. Oh, the fish just started zipping around real quick.

Yeah, the fish tasted amazing for a while. So on July 20th, 2013, five people were found guilty of manslaughter, negligence, and wrecking. Robert Ferrarani, the company's crisis director, received the longest sentence at two years and 10 months. Ferrarani, the company's crisis director, received the longer sentence at two years and ten months. Ferrarani, who was not on the ship, was convicted of understating the extent of the disaster and delaying an adequate response. Next was Manrico Jem Pedroni, who was the cabin service director. He was given two and a half years for his role in

the evacuation, which was described as chaotic. It was either one that was like, it's fine, go back to sleep. Possibly, yeah. Three crew members, first officer, Chiro Ambrosio, Helmsman, Jacob, Rusly Bin, and the third officer, Sylvia Koroneka,

were given sentences between one and two years. But the Helmsman, Bin, was, he was convicted for steering the ship in the wrong direction. Officer Coutino ordered a corrective manoeuvre. And Jacob Russell and bin actually fled. He failed to show up for court and was believed to have fled to Indonesia, but Interpol tracked him down a year later just outside Jakarta. So he just, he fucked off back to Indonesia, but they did track him down.

Oh, pretty scandalous. In a separate trial for manslaughter and causing the loss of the ship, Captain Francesco Skatino sought a plea bargain agreement. It really just sounds like he lost his mind. Like everything he did made no sense. Maybe he didn't have, maybe that was just how he was anyway, but it's just like, what are you doing? None of this makes sense.

What do you think, you can't just sort of, what are you doing? None of this makes sense. What do you think, you can't just sort of like pretend this isn't happening and it'll go away. Yeah. Well, this part might explain that. As part of this trial, Dominica Camorton, who's a 26-year-old mold-oven, admitted having been Skatino's lover

and having been a non-paying passenger on the ship. And after the prosecution alleged that her presence on the bridge generated confusion and destruction for the captain. So his girlfriend was on board. I was trying to impress her. Yeah. I know. It's like when you go friends around, you're not concentrating on steering a ship. And then when you hit a rocky, you don't even notice because you go friends there. Yeah. And she's so beautiful.

Yeah. There's a rock out here but you're my rock in here. Oh And here's a rock will you marry me? Yeah, and he's a rock of cocaine from the mafia too many rocks. Yeah, that's confusing Get confused That's so nice. Yeah, it's a really sweet moment actually. Oh wow. I think This trial kind of ruins it. Yeah, thanks for ruining the romance. God. So in February of 2015,

Skatino was convicted and sentenced to 16 years in prison. He appealed against the sentence that didn't happen. It was finalized in May of 2017. I think he appealed a couple of times. Most of us just come on. Come on. I fell. He's serving his sentence in a prison in Rome, but what's also pretty

wild is that while still under investigation in 2014 and this was only two years after Costa Concordia sank upon invitation by University in Rome he held a panic management seminar which obviously had quite a few controversies after that. People like, that guy is currently on trial for really not managing a crisis well at all. And who was killing being responsible for the deaths of 30 people?

That sounds like what not to do seminar. Yeah. And a Rome university invited him to come out and do that. That's a cashing in on the crazy. Look, he has a bithing in on the crazy. Look, he has a bit of buzz around this card. The moment in the media, I reckon this could get us some attention. Yeah, and speaking of cashing in, he also published a book in 2015 in which he characterized

himself as a hero. The book was controversially dedicated to the victims of the catastrophe. Oh man. Such poor taste. Many in the media criticized the book, especially how Skatino was attempting to profit from the disaster and pay in himself in a better light Skatino. I Got to give you said one when we look at him. It'll make sense. Yeah. What's his first name? Francesco. Skatino is SCH

E double T. I know Honestly What a great name What a shit bloke. And yeah, okay. Yeah. See what I mean? I think so.

It looks a bit gross to me. It's just got a big head. Big head. Which I thought you'd relate to. Hey, I got a cute head. Hey, big and cute. Aren't mutually exclusive. That's true.

Bigger is better. I got a big cute head. I got a big cute head. You got a big cute head. So as I said at the very start, we probably remember seeing this in the news, because it wasn't that long ago. Coverage of this shipwreck dominated international media for weeks. The New York Times called the incident a drama that seemed to blend tragedy with elements of fast. Somebody else called it the most significant event

in modern maritime history, because every single safety procedure designed to make sea travel safe failed miserably. In Italy, newspaper stated that Italy owed the world an explanation for the wreck, and called for harsh punishment of those responsible. And this part I loved, and I think you will as well. Italian commentators

reflected on the contrast between Skatino and Defalco, the on-Judy Italian Coast Guard. And what it said about the national character, they represented the two souls of Italy, according to Aldo Grasso, who said, on the one hand, a man hopelessly lost a coward who sherks his responsibility as a man and an officer. The other grasps the seriousness of the situation immediately and tries to remind the first of his obligations. So you'll remember that De Falco was the one who yelled at Captain over the phone and said, Vado, a boardor, Katzor, back on you, Cald prick. Well, that phrase became a catchphrase in Italy after this event, and T-shirts with the

phrase were printed and sold across the country. He became a bit of a hero, like a pop culture kind of hero. I get fashion over there. That's so funny to me, that you could just get a T-shirt of a catchphrase that a man yelled at another man during a shipwreck. Yeah. It's baffling. I think it's beautiful, a beautiful tribute. And I hope they dedicated it to the victims.

Beautiful stuff. I think that would have been really nice. He probably wouldn't have done that, I don't think. No. The other guy, I cannot believe he's written a book as the hero. It's a Skatino, yeah. And dedicated it to the victims. Yeah, it's such portais.

And just so like, complete lack of self awareness. Yeah. It's really yuck. But it's funny that Italy only has those two souls. Yeah. You think there'd be some, a few souls somewhere between those two? You would think so, but no, just those two.

It's a country of extremes. No middle ground. And you know, one sixteenth of me is one of those souls. I'll let you decide with. Coward. Put me on a ship going down. You'll see. Coward.

Look, I fell. Okay, finally, in January of 2013, so a year after it happened, the municipalities of the island, the Jiglio Island and the area in Tuscany where they shipped them to afterwards, they were decorated with the highest Italian civil award, the gold medal of civil merit, for the commitment of citizens, administrators, and local institutions in the rescue of the survivors. So the people on the islands did really well. They did the right thing.

The mayor of the island, Sergio, or Telli, and Costa Cruz has agreed that a large boulder that was wedged in the hull would be removed from the side of the vessel and be positioned on the island as a memorial to the 32 people who lost their lives. Okay. So they were good people in this,

but unfortunately a shit captain. And it was very early on in the journey as well. So pretty harrowing experience. That's like a lot of good people. Like so many were saved as well. Yeah, that's absolutely right. Yeah, 32 lost their lives, which is horrendous. Plenty of people were injured.

But that still is under a hundred people when there was 4,000 on board. Like it's, um, yeah. If they weren't people like the, uh, get off the boat, get on the boat, you coward. Yeah. Yeah. And the crew hadn't just got into gear and just done their jobs, regardless of their hopeless captain. Um, Air Force, like there was a lot of, yeah, there was like the Navy, the Coast Guard, the Air Force, like there was a lot of help there very quickly. But yeah, bit of a, obviously not a happy ending, but a pretty wild story. And one that a lot of people wanted to hear, it was voted on by the patrons, and it won, it was a bit of a tight race between three of the four topics

one they were not into. But this one they sort of just won. What year was it? Telling a 12. I'm trying to think of why I don't really remember. I know the name but I don't remember that story at all. I just kind of remember it being in the news. I mean, I was probably studying journalism at the time. Oh, yeah. But I remember I've got the image in my head of the ship sort of on the side. Yeah, sunk.

Like a half-packing other water side. That's right. Yeah. But yeah, there you go. That's the story of the of the Costa Concordia. Did you say the name of his book? I just looked it up. What is it?

La Ferita Somers, which I've put into Google Translators. The submerged truths. Oh Seems even that That feels a bit yeah, I've got people lost their lives in the boat man. Yeah, come on. It's pretty poor taste Well, if he has been escaped good and none of that is true and he want and he was a hero today Yeah, you'd like you'd want to tell you your truth? Of course. I'd like to tell my truth. Wouldn't it be awful if the whole system made up a lie about you made you sound like

you're this incompetent guy when none of it was true? Yeah. Imagine if, which is probably what he's saying, and if you take his word for it and I don't say why we shouldn't. Yeah. I imagine if, which is probably what he's saying. And if you take his word for it, and I don't say, well, we shouldn't. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, it's somebody who has done that sort of sail by three, four times and decided to turn off

the navigation system, so he could do it by sight with those glasses at night. And I, you know, I think I trust somebody like that. Yeah, but did he say, did that? He says he did that, or is that another law? No, he said that one. Okay. Yeah, he's a little boy.

Not good, but he's in prison. Yeah, well, there's that little happy ending at the end. There is. Hey, thanks so much for that story, Jess. A pleasure. Well, I think it was a check in and ask, how do you feel about going on a cruise ship now Matt? Look I'd I'd I'd still be up for it. I think it would depend on the cruise ship like it was a kiss cruise

Yeah, I know that they're not probably not doing that many more now they've retired We're actually read about these to be back straight boys cruises. What you'd be interested. Yeah, I'd go on one of these You know like I think there's a there was a there's a few metal cruises, a few punk rock cruises. Comedy cruises big. Yeah. Podcast cruise, I haven't heard of them yet, but maybe we could do one. Yeah, on international. The jest does get her intensely seasick.

Yeah, I will be able to perform, but I could be there. What I assume we do is in a toilet. We'd have you, oh yeah, that's good. I was thinking like a helicopter and you just hover just above the ship. Oh, perfect. Yeah. And you'd be able to hear me really well.

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Don't be like that give us a chance. It's crazy. But the first thing we like to do is A section called fat quote of question section. I think it has a jingle. It's crazy. But the first thing we like to do is a section called Fat Quotal Question section. I think it has a jingle, goes something like this. Fat Quotal Question. He always remembers the jingle. Oh, a bit sharper. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Bring it down. Go again. D. Yeah, okay. He always remembers the jingle. She always remembers the jingle and the

thing. And if you want to be involved in this go to the Sydney Sharnberg level or above, and you can give us a fat quote or question, or really whatever you like, a braggist suggestion, recipes, we have had jokes, you can do whatever you like. Yeah, it's really your time to shine. And I read four of them out each episode. I'll read them out for the first time on the show. That's just me pre-excusing myself

from stumbling over things. The first one comes from James Edwards, okay, and I believe if I'm thinking about the right person, and this might be the sad thing, but I remember him as being a really great laugher. Yes. I'm thinking the right guy. That's correct.

In my standup show in London, maybe at the podcast. Yeah, that's right. So, a fox. Two fox, correct. And I think just saying, can we look? I remember, is this to go from five years ago, really laughed at a show, like I remember him by name, the individual laugh. I think it's one of the three. I think he's one of the three over the years.

Oh my God, you're the one who actually laughed. Thank you so much. So nice to see you. But he had a particularly big laugh. So much so that you think he apologized about it, and I might never apologize. As somebody with a big laugh, we are made to feel like shit about it sometimes.

Which is so weird. You're the ones doing the thing that you should be doing. I'm quite self-conscious about my laugh to be honest. The quiet laugh is that you should be ridiculed. There should go. Fuck themselves. I know I am one of those. Yeah, fuck you. Fuck you Matt. I've had to serve the more.

Even Dave sometimes doesn't. Yeah, that's good. Well, that's him giving you something when he doesn't think you deserve anything. Well, that's me struggling to breathe. That's a cry for help. Anyway, James Edwards has given himself the title of the rich Irish wrist watch washer.

Oh, hang on. I was halfway through, but I'm like, this is specific, but it was, that was designed to F me out. And you did it though. I was absolutely good. I was really good. Uh, James asked me a question, writing, Hey, lovely people, Bragg, and question this time.

At the time of writing, I'm sitting in my office daydreaming about my upcoming holiday. Oh. Vac vacation for Americans. Yeah. What's that? What holiday? Yeah, that's what a woman said to me in the bar. I told her that. Yeah.

Great anecdote. Great anecdote worth repeating. Great anecdote. Another great anecdote from that. How does he do it? It's so sad that I not only tell these bad anecdotes once, but you're like, yeah, you've already told that one. Yeah, we know, Chan.

We already know this, it doesn't go anywhere. Anyway, James is holiday. On the occasion. I think that's December. I mean, that's right in the review mirror for us now. My husband and I will fly from London to Madrid for three nights, then to Miami for one night. Oh, it's a triple M holiday,

because then they go to St. Martan for a couple of weeks. Madrid, Miami, Martan. I don't know if I'm saying that right, it's double A. So that's a stretch at the A-San. Go for a couple of weeks, flying home on New Year's Day. We have been planning the trip for months and clang because I don't like to fly along distances

other than in business or first class. It's costing a bomb. Do not say that at the airport, but it made me wonder if money was no object, where would you travel to? Oh, man. Hope you're all well. And I've had a fab Christmas in your year. Thanks so much. So much. If money's no object, I'm going everywhere. And I'm going everywhere, at least business premium Premium economy, my mom. I love the idea of your like, I'll live it up money. Well, premium economy for me. Oh yeah, I could go first. My first feels too fancy.

Yeah, I feel uncomfortable. And I'm also like, I can be a bit of a picky eater. And sometimes I see people in the first class and I'm like, I don't wanna eat that. Oh my gosh, you don't. Maybe business. Thank you for you. I mean you and you get to pick.

I know, I know, I know. But I'm too fancy. You get options. You'd rather have the slop up the back for the rest of us. I'm not saying I'm flying economy, David. You're in business. I'm saying business. You're in premium economy with extra five sentiments.

Yeah, that's the good stuff. Are you in twos in premium economy? Or are you still like, is this a three? Because essentially what I want is just to be able to just sit next to my partner and no one else. I think, yeah, you do, I think you do want premium because much of you. We're in love.

Why don't you say it up to business? One thing you got to do. Once you got to, sorry, we've got special guests on board today. They're in love. Please make them very welcome. I just think I'm a partner. Just a partner, thank you.

I don't know, I just thought I was like, I wanna stranger there. I think my climbing over him, would I need to pee or anything? But if you're open first, you don't even see your partner for the whole trip. You're in your little bed. Oh really?

Now I'm listening. You're not like in a bed. You know, I'm not speaking from time has ever been there, but when you walk through, you look like their seats are so big and they've got to kind of got a bit the goes up I never dare look. Yeah, I know that I just assume that the one of the hosts would be like the hostess They'd be like the broo no, I contact yeah, that's a grammar in there or something like that. I's Ford Poblian Poblian, yeah

So yes, you'd go everywhere, which no offense cop out answer Dave or something like that. Ice Ford, Poobleean, Poobleean, Poobleean, Poobleean. Yeah. So yes, you'd go everywhere. Everywhere. No offense, cop out answer. Dave, what about you? Two answers, I'll answer for Jess, because you can talk to her. I'll answer for Dave.

Oh my god, three answers, Antarctica. But I'd love to go on an African safari. Oh, yes. Because there are different levels. There are some very, very, very expensive ones. So if money was not, should I go there? And the Galapicus Islands is so expensive to visit, but I'd love to go.

Right, okay. Well, I'm going to, I'll just tag on with Dave. I'd go to the Mel Dives, very nice. And say, stay on this beautiful. Yeah, where I have like a hammock over the water. I can just jump straight into this beautiful turquoise water. I'd do that. Is that an amazing thing?

Yeah. I don't know where I'd go, but I'd go to some of these water, I'd do that. Is that an amazing thing? Yeah. I don't know where I'd go, but I'd go to some of these places, just look sick. You know, I just wanna go to those places, you're like, whoa, I can't believe I'm here. Why do I think about these Canadian peaked ice cap mans with the lake in front where a moose, you know, a beaver riding a moose

across the North Sea or whatever? I wanna be in those sort of places. Can I blow your mind for a second, then? Can I blow your mind? You have not seen that. No, no, no, I, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whoa. Yeah. Huh? We're in a fairly hot gray room right now. I did like it. That's pretty cool. I've been to myself with Dave and Jess. That is, that is, honestly.

No where I'd rather be right now. Correct. But yeah, I'd love to go to some of those cool places. You know, Northern Lights, Australia. Yeah, Australia. Australia, so what did you call it? Aurora, Australia. Yep. I'd love to check out these sort of places. We did, was it a few weeks ago? We didn't episode about

Antarctica? Yeah, we're in the order of things. We recorded a few weeks ago. Yeah, it was two weeks ago for the people at home. So which has made me think, yeah, I'd love to go see some stuff like that, but I'd love to go to Africa, which is obviously a huge continent and it's such a vague. Yes, but I'd love to go to a Southern African safari and go to the Atosha National Park in Namibia. I'd love to go everywhere. I'd love to go to the plate. I'd love to do a do-go on tour of the world.

Like, you know, that episode, I talked about a guy who broke out of a Jalda Clumber mountain. Yeah. I'd love to go to that mountain. You know, just sort of get around. Do we have to go on this tour together? No. Oh, fuck it.

All right, I'll figure it out. No offense, Jasper. You're a rough, travel partner. Dave can come. That's fair. Thanks. You took that too well. I was just getting in before because you were like, I don't have to come to this do.

No, no, don't want to do anything. I don't want to. Because you suck. No. Thank you you James, that's a great question. You just... Enjoy your trip. Oh no, it's already happened. Hope you enjoyed your trip. I hope it was great. Yeah, it's amazing. But yeah, it's a lot of those sort of questions. Just really just let you have a little dream. It's a master's dream. It's a little gift you gave us, the James. Our next one comes from Pete Holberton, aka Field Marshal of forgetting to submit a fact quote or question, well, you've found in your job right here,

I assume. And you fired. Having a few beers with Pete after the Christmas, live Christmas special. Yeah. I was great talking about, because I was talking about him like he works for NASA. And he's like, I don't work for NASA. But I'm like, oh, sorry. He's like, yeah, I know, it's just an interest to mine. I'm like, oh, okay, so I'm going, okay, he's like, he probably works at a milk bar or something. I go, what do you do? He says, I'm a data scientist. I'm like, that sounds like a NASA person to me.

I'm a data scientist, for NASA. But I don't work for that. I'm not an astronaut. Yeah, they get a bit upset the astronauts if you start telling people you work for NASA. Yeah, real princesses. Anyway, Pete has, okay, the shiny Gary, Missile Man. No, what's his?

Fucking hell. Steely odd. Steely odd. You're right. Missile Man. And Pete has written a fact writing, The Windy City nickname has nothing to do with Chicago's. Well, I found this out in Chicago recently as well.

I have no her this. It was coined by a 19th century journalist who were referring to the fact that its residents were windbags and full of hot air. Apologies to any Chicago listeners. I'm sure it doesn't apply anymore. Go Boots. So I did a tour, I did like a boat tour and the tour guide mentioned that, but I thought she said it was about the

politicians there or something, the windy city, but also, yeah, because it's actually not, not a particularly windy city. It's kind of disappointing. I was going to enjoy the wind. And the other thing that the second city, there are other nicknames. I always just assume because it was the second biggest city, which I think it used to be, but the city burnt down and a whole new city was built. Oh, shit. So it's like the second Chicago city. Right.

I mean, these are things I heard when I'm over there. Chicagoans are probably yelling. And did you say you went on a cruise? No, not on a boat, yes. Did you go down the river? I'm going to talk about that. Oh! With this episode of War would be out.

I'm doing a bonus episode where I'm recapping my recent American trip, which would have come out last month when listeners are hearing this now. And I'm going to talk about that little Chicagoan. At the river, because I once did a, but a patron bonus episode about the day I was thinking about it on that very trip. The, if you want to check it out, the Dave Matthews band Chicago River incident where allegedly Dave Matthews band, one of their two, I think they they got done for the bus driver dumped a load,

released the pout tanks, a a payload a payload and it landed on a boat no one to ring this and going oh I better sign up to hear that no one wants to hear that it was a fun episode though wasn't it yeah I remember we recorded that during lockdowns I remember sitting in my bed yeah I'm being grossed and it had a poster to keep me going oh my god the next one comes from Sam Cutler. Okay, Sam Spamalot, the second. And Sam's offering a brag. Writing, oh hey, my three favorites.

Stop it, Sam. Hope you remember me. I do remember you. You remember me? I'm a man, so do I cover that while I laugh? Do I remember me? Do I remember me? Do I cover a bit?

Have we ever talked about it on the show? No, we have a cap, that's why I laughed. That's why I laughed. Remember me? We're a cap a bit. Have we ever talked about it on the show? No, we have, I'm sure. Ha ha ha ha. I was the biggest thing on the 40 fields, top wide shots, long ball knocks. It's an 80s football player who's never singing at Ray just things, and we love to call it him.

And, yeah, he was featured a lot on Tony Martin's radio show. Anyway, hope you remember me. I'm the one who likes to make Matt say, ee, and the one he ignores on the street, ha ha. My film, The Smeds and The Smooth. Oh, yes! I remember this. Has gone on to be nominated for an Emmy.

You remember the second bit, you just forgot there. The time that outside the English show, one of the English shows, she was telling me how she called out to me and I didn't turn around, because I was just assuming she was talking about a different map. Oh, right, I forgot that bit, but I definitely remember the Sments and the Sments

and the Sments anyway. It's been nominated for an Emmy. Congratulations, that's incredible. And update, they won. Whoa! One step to the eagot. Oh my gosh. That's so exciting. I said,

ah, ah, ah, ah, a Kermit Victory Dance. Yay! I happened to be in Japan on holiday. So spoiled. Harking up to a shrine where my co-director Dan Snatton phoned and told me the news. Wow. I just stood there, boiling my eyes out and really freaked out. Some other American tourists coming up the path. Well that's something you never forget. That sounds like you're spending from experience how many Emmys of you on mate. I maybe sit this one out. No, you get a phone call like that whilst you're in such an incredible location that's

like holy shit, this is wild. Just wanted you all to know that through working on the film every day, I would listen to you guys and any tough things that were happening just melted away. Hamongo Huggsy. I hope I'm reading this as you've intended it. Hamongo Huggsy. I think that's exactly how to you too. And to you. Hamongo are like huge hugs, I think it's what.

Yeah. Also, an extra silly anecdote I thought might be fun to share. Two days after I got my Emmy news, I was thoroughly convinced to do the super-touristy things and dress up as a samurai at another shrine. I know Sam, Uri, the lady told my friends and I that we, if we dress up, we would also get to see some things from the museum that they had brought out just for this week. I'd already worn some interesting hats and kimonos so we were politely trying to leave,

but the samurai gear looks so cool. I gave in and said, yes, I will pay the fee and wear it. Once I was dressed, they were instructing me exactly how to stand and how to hold the sword accurately. The samurai suit was beautifully made and one they used for films so I was being very careful not to damage it. The rules were I could take some pictures in the room with a view of the mountains in the back and that would be it. At the end I got a stupid idea and asked if I could do a silly last pose.

The ladies agreed and I lifted my leg into a ballet pose. The lady's garrsped. I love, I don't think I've ever done anything like that, but I'd love to one day do something that makes ladies garrspin or anyone garrspin. They garrsped and started clapping and calling other friends over to look at me. Next minute I'm being taken outside for more photos by the Maple trees.

I couldn't get my shoes on bending over so the lady handed me a pair of men's crocs. I tried to say thank you but weren't the other person need their shoes. The main lady said it's fine, he doesn't need to go anywhere. We took a bazillion photos as I danced about fully dressed as a samurai and drew in a big crowd. The impress lady demanded, we go, we now go to the main temple. Oh my god, she's been shopped around now. She needed pictures for a her website. She spoke English and was telling us tons of facts about the area. Walking along, it was also, it was also interesting.

I kept forgetting why people were staring me at me. Oh yes, I'm dressed as a samurai. At the temple, I ran up the stairs and a monk gonged the bell as if announcing me. I started to do... This sounds like a dream. Like this doesn't sound like a real thing that happened. That must have been surreal. Start to finish. Like you're there

like you can you can wear it for a fee, but you can only take some photos in this room. Yeah. Hang on. You can do a ballet pose. You've got the keys to the city. You've got the kid. I started it to more ballet poses and all the Japanese tourists spun around and started taking pictures too. I had the giggles as I shifted from post to post. This was the weirdest thing to ever happen to me. Afterwards back at the room talking about the film company, the ladies worked for. She asked what I did for living. I said, I'm a director and I'm super delighted that we just won an Emmy two days before. Oh my god. She immediately whipped around and translated in Japanese by everyone around us.

Before I knew it, a group of 20 people were clapping and crew graduating from the cheering. Getting so much love from a bunch of strangers was so sweet and unexpected. It was the most wonderful day. Oh, and I did give the poor guys shoes back to, haha. Much love to you guys. Keep doing the thing and more episodes being scientists please or yeah let's let's put some bonus episodes uh well that's not us there's people who sound like us who do a science show on the bonus feed called the science hour I don't know how to sound like us I sound completely

different they do sound different yeah their science outside is where yeah mainstream science stuff so there's one of the guys really likes ducks um it looks ducks a bit too much too much yeah it makes me uncomfortable when I'm Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're mainstream science stuff. So there's one of the guys really likes ducks. You look ducks a bit too much. Too much. It makes me uncomfortable when I meet him. So. Finally, Dave, I mean, go on, there you go.

She finishes by saying, Dave, I mean, Gary telling me my duck facts is my best. Okay, bye. What does that mean? Yeah, I know there's a guy on the show called Dr. Gary Chalk and he gives a duck fax. I don't know why she's addressed that to you. Because if you squint your ears, he sounds a bit like you. Thanks Sam.

Oh, that's the third one. The final one this week comes from Michael Derissi and his title is, I'm 33, the same age as certain carpenter that we know of, huh, you know, you know my mate Ben. You don't have any young friends. Young friends, 33, come on. All right mate, you need to move on. Final the time over here.

Yeah, well I'm saying, I was 33 once and even I know, that's old. No offense or 30, that was just directed at Jess. Okay. I'm 33. Am I 33? Yeah. Okay.

32. That's what I forget. I'm 33. Okay. Yeah, 33. It's easy because you were born on a zero year. You should be quite easy to remember. Anyway, it's a fact from Michael and that fact is you three are wonderful a

Markable Gosh, I'm gonna say that's a fun fact Thanks so much to Michael Sam Peyton James the next thing we like to do is Shout out to a few of our other fantastic supporters just normally comes up with a bit of a game based on the topic at hand Yeah, I'm gonna give them, or we're all gonna give them a job on the ship. Oh, ship job. I've looked up like actual positions on a ship like crew,

but we could also include like entertainment, food services, accessories. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they've got a job, they're all working on the cruise ship. Great. And they're happy about it, they're getting paid really well. Thank you.

I didn't want anybody to be like, oh, great, thanks for that. Are they all competent? Oh yeah, yeah, great. They're getting paid really well. I don't want anyone to be like, oh, great. Thanks for that. Are they competent? Oh, yeah, yeah. They're best in the biz. It's top of the line, cruise. It's there that certain Italian soul, the competent heroic one. All right, if I can kick itself out of the tank from Littleton in Colorado in the United States, it's Noah, Palm Booth. Great name, Noah.

Noah, Palm Booth, and a ha, a, way. Do you think Noah's a musician? Yes. Wow, music. What kind of musician? Cusic guitar. Right, playing like, so maybe not playing like the three level theater,

but maybe playing like in the cool car. No, it's in the corner of the bar, yeah. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, doing a few originals, but also covering a lot of mossy. Yeah, great. You got the honey maple syrup moss. Yeah. And yeah.

I'm sure that means a lot to know where it is. I think that will. I'm sure Noah's a big listener, listen to him. He'll know all about maple syrup moss and his solo career as well as his career with Coldchizzle. Thanks so much Noah for all you do. From Rhodes Corner in Nova Skullshire I reckon in Canada it's Jen Meister. Jen Meister is the person that holds the limbo stick. Oh! Jack B nimble Jack b. You got a horrible day. You'll be very strong.

Holding the limbo stick. Gotta be strong, but you also have to bring like a fun party vibe. Yeah, yeah. To be encouraging people to limbo. And then there's gotta be a skill to sort of dancing, but also holding a pole still. That's right. Yeah. That's awesome. That's a good job. And yeah, we trust you with it, Jen. You're the best in the business. Thank you, Jen. Finally for Maid of the than thank from Glasgow in Scotland. Locklin, Calderwood. Oh, I lost that if I ever had it. Locklin. Locklin, Calderwood. Nailed it. Locklin. Locklin. Locklin is the quartermaster. Wow, what do they do? There is relatively senior soldier who supervises stores or barracks and distributes supplies and provisions. So I

think when I said when I googled positions on a ship it was more thinking like battle. Yeah. But I stand by it because you never know what you're gonna win camera out in the high seas. And in the paint they have different different jobs in peacetime. That's right. We're just looking after coins American coins. Yeah He's master of the coin. Don't argue. Dave you want to thank a few? I'd love to thank from Bundera right here in Melbourne. It's Cass Cass Cass what about a Cass is the Closh cleaner

Lot of fancy meals on this fancy Closh cleaner. A lot of fancy meals on this fancy- Yes, a lot of closhes. A lot of closhes. Gotta keep those things shiny. That's right. Closh cleaner. Closh cleaner. You don't want like a, like I'm walking away. Dirty clush, dirty kitchen.

That's what I think. Dirty clush, dirty cook. That's right. That's what I think. Cook isn't what's the hands. That's right. Yeah. So it'll help you get a little sloppy.

An important job there, Cass, and we appreciate your work. Well done. Especially because we're fine dining, if you're not. And also Cass, you're just hiding the fact that the kitchen is disgusting. Thank you for hiding that for me.

Ignorance is bliss. Thank you. I would like to thank now from Nury Upta. Nury Udpar, rather. Nury, have you had that in South Australia? No, no. Thank you so much to Kara Jones' Reedle. Kara Jones' Reedle.

Well, I think M. think MC of the speed dating. Oh, great one. Yeah, that's good. We get a bit lucky in love on the ship. Yeah, ding-ding, time to move around. Yeah. If you've made a connection, don't worry. You can pop each other's names down on the list at the end.

Yeah, but we've got to keep moving. Sorry, that does mean, Janice. You are going to have to sit first. Sit with Doug for five. Or two. How long do I? Doug is disgusting. Doug is gross, we've all agreed.

We put two hoties either side of Doug, so it's sort of like, you just get it over and done with, and then it's back to the hoties. So, all right, Doug's in the middle of a Greg sandwich, and both the Greg's here tonight, ah, shmokin'. They are smoking, and they're both doctors, if that matters to you.

Yeah, Dr. Greg, one, Dr. Greg, two, pull, you take your pick, I'm happy with either. Yeah. Paul, you take your pick, I'm happy with either. Yeah. How you take your pick, I'll have one of all of you sloppy seconds. Yeah, no, and that's just some of the fun that Cara brings to the world. Right, yeah, you can own your Cara.

Own your Cara. And finally, for me, I'd like to thank from Sacramento in California, it's Tanya, Serotina. Well, Tanya, can I say this to you? Go Kings, a real basketball team. Yeah, they definitely exist. They definitely exist. And Tanya is on the ship as in the chorus line

of a full-fledged musical they're putting on in the three-tiered theater. And you said at musical we know of, is it original? It's an original. Oh, great. What would you remember what it's called? It's called Ship Ho. Ship Ho. Yeah. Right, they have a theme. Yeah, would you remember what it's called? It's called ship. Oh ship. Oh, yeah, I

have a theme. Yeah, of course. And it's a bad a a a a a a woman on a ship. Yes, um goes to finishing school ship finishing school. She starts a ship. Oh, but she's because a ship lady but in the entry realizes that there was no problem with her original form and she goes back to ship hell and it up. She's a happy ship. That's beautiful stuff. It's a beautiful story.

Sorry, it's beautiful message. It's really nice. It does have an interval because it's quite a long show. But it's worth it. I mean, you're on the seat. What else are you going to do? It's a slog, actually. Apart. It is a slog. Apart of it, do drag. I do have notes for them, but ten years is incredible a lot of exposition. That's right

Too much I'd say oh Greg What are you doing here? That's my mom working Greg Greg my cousin from from Nebraska. Yeah. Fancy seeing you here at our grandfather's wake. Yeah. He died recently as a veneer of plane crash. Yeah.

You probably know this, but just recapping in case. Yeah, there's ways to do exposition and this show has not done that. No, it hasn't figured out how to sort of weave it in quietly. It's sloppy. Yeah, sloppy. Could I thank some people? Sure. I would love to thank from banning in California.

Tori. Tori. Tori. Tori from banning. Tori is in charge of lost property. Oh. With 4,000 people, there's a lot of lost property. Lot of lost property, and nobody's as on top of it as Tori.

But at the same time, time it's not claimed within the end of the cruise Tory gets to keep it all yeah and Tory just then like sells it off in Facebook Marketplace yeah it's just actually a great side hustle it's so good Tory's actually crushing it yeah because these rich people are always dropping their diamonds off the side of the boats. Tory's in a little school the suit she's picking it up. I'll get that one thank you yeah which is sort of outside the scope of lost and fan, but she'll go there. She goes above and beyond is what I'm saying. She'll get them. She'll hold them. She won't actively find you.

But if you find her, then she probably will stop it up. You're probably going back to you unless it's quite valuable. Yeah, then she'll say, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no would also love to thank from, is it Lester? Yeah, it's Lester. And great Britain, I would love to thank Amy Latama. Amy Latama from Lester. Oh, now I know someone else in a recent Patreon thing had taken the role of cheese suggestor. Yes. And bought something in that world.

What if you get a cheese omelet, you've also took about some mille, a, or some meat, whatever that is. Like the wine, the wine, A cheese munger. Cheese munger. Do you think could be a ship, chips, cheese munger? Yeah, of course. I mean, some places have like, in a buffet, they have like a whole section dedicated to cheese. Yeah, I liked that. I've never seen it, but I would like to see it. I've seen an omelette station. Yeah, a pancake station. When we're at the customer we podcast that's cool. But I've never seen a cheese munger. I want to say I want to get a look at one of them. So we're saying Amy is the cheese munger.

Amy is the cheese munger. Amy is in charge. Maybe the cheese munger is in charge of, it's like a sushi train, but it's a cheese train. Oh! Amy's in charge of it. Oh yeah, I would. I would shit myself just a chocolate. Oh yeah, I have a- I would shit myself.

I would really, yeah, I don't know if that's how I want to eat my cheese. From a train. From a train that's just cycling around. And I had to live. I'm guessing it's like quite refrigerated this train. Yeah, yeah, it's nice. Okay.

So thank you Amy. I'm sorry. If the culture's not clean at the cheese train, I'm out. I'm sorry if you are lactose intolerant Amy, but you have a beautiful job and oh my god from Concord What in New Hampshire? Wow Stephanie Magnolia Visano. Oh my god. That's an Italian name. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god Full circle what a name to Stephanie Magnolia, the Zonal Concord. I'm gonna have to say.

Sign language interpreter. Yes, that is what I'm gonna have to say. Yes. I'm gonna have to say that. Important for accessibility and just a beautiful thing. Yeah. And there's different types of something, isn't it? Of course.

Yeah, yeah. Well Stephanie's actually knows quite a few of them too, which is very impressive. Head of a 10, is she the one or, because 4,000 people. There is a team. There's a team, right? That's Stephanie's the head.

She's the head of the team, yeah. Oh, well done. That's a great gig. Very cool start. And like, you know, you get to see all these amazing shows and to stand on the side of the stage. Oh, right. So, you interpret them.

Yeah, okay. I'm important. I thought you might have been roving the side of the stage. Oh, right. So you interpret them. Yeah, okay. Um, important. I thought you might have been roving the ship. Just interpreting. Anyone need an interpretation here? No, that makes more sense. Yeah, she's not doing like tarot readings. Okay.

Anybody need a, no. I was laying the interpretation. I was not the maybe. Uh-huh. Oh, great work, Stephanie. Now I understand your job even more. I love it. That extra little bit. Thank you so much, Stephanie. Now I understand your job even more. I love it. That extra little bit.

Thank you so much, Stephanie. Amy Tori, Tania, Kara, Castloklyn, Janon Noah. And the final thing we need to do is open up the Triptage Club. We've got three new members tonight. If you hear your name once I read it out, I'll lift up the Velvah rope, head on into the Triptage Club. Fear not. Once you're in, you can never leave.

But that's a good thing. Yeah. And in there is, or you got everything you want. It's a, you know, a bit of theater of the mind here, but there's a, it's whatever you want it to be. There's a pool, there's a swim up, cinema, dive in, cinema. Oh yeah, yeah.

We got it all in there. I need to beat both dry and wet, which is, you know, that's not too much of a float. Yeah, we got both dry and wet seating. That's the signs at the front. If you sit up there, you don't have to float. Yeah, we've got both dry and wet seating. That's why it's signs at the front. If you sit up there, you will get wet. But Jess is at the bar, Dave's booked a band.

He's also the MC on the stage. Jess, what's your drink? Turn on. We've gone Italian. We've got the Limoncello. Oh, good. We've got the Campari. We've got the Aparole Spr've got up a roll spritz. Mikiamo Matthew.

We have a bit of everything and then pizzas. Oh great. Mama mia. Absolutely. Italian style? No. No, I couldn't get Italian style. They are Chicago. Chicago did dish.

Oh my god. So it's a real slap in the face to Italians, but yeah, it's all I could get on short notice. I like it. It's all I could get. We just couldn't get like a time pizza, so the more basic version we couldn't. I had to get the more complicated one. Yeah. And Dave, you booked a ban? Yes, but I've had a spin some issues.

I wanted to have the three tennis. Yeah. Fortunately, only two of them can make it. So we've got the two tennis. Okay, which two? The Spanish tennis. Yeah. Fortunately only two of them can make it. So we've got the two tennis. Okay, which two? Oh, the Spanish ones. Yeah, okay.

Domingo and Jose Carreras. Okay, great. No Pav. The Pav has backed out. Oh, sorry. You get to say sick. But two out of three, pretty good. The two tennis.

Yeah. That is pretty good. Are they gonna do... Whatever I hear of Placido Domingo. I think of this in hindsight, very bad joke, but as a kid I thought it was amusing, and I didn't really understand it, but they were saying that,

you know, the top Paul McDerm would do like some, the monologue thing. But the start of Good Newsweek? Yeah, and he said Domingo was obviously in the news and he said, also he's gonna be doing a musical and opera about Australia's tragic tale from the bush called Domingo's Got My Baby. I can imagine him giving that delivery exactly. And yeah, I'm like, I don't really get it,

but it sounds fun. Yeah, and it's such a funny thing that would be stuck in my head and attached to that mandeminger. Anyhow, great work, booking the two tennis. I don't think Pavarotti offered a lot to them anyway. Didn't add much. Who's ever heard of him anyway?

What happened to him? So I've got the, I've got three people to bring in. Oh hang on, no there's only two inductees, Dave. Oh, the two tenants. It's the two tenants. One for a tenant. Uh, so Dave, you ready for this? I'm ready for this.

If you hear any, come on in, make yourselves at home. From Sydney in British Columbia in Canada, it's Brandon Smith. Please put your handons together for Brandon. Yay! Yay! Ooh, ooh, ooh! And from Wadsworth in Oh my God, God's country, Ohio, it's Chris George.

Your Wadsworth, a lot to me, Chris George! You're George, Chris George. You got a lot to go. Like, gorgeous, I thought you were comparing Chris to a, a gorge. No, no, you're not an emotional gorge. You're being gaping hard. I to a gorge. No, no, you're not an emotional god. You're being harnessed. I love the gorge on Chris George.

Welcome in, make yourselves at home, Chris and Brandon, please. Grab one of those many Italian treats, or Chicago dishpeaks. Sorry again. That is, I'm just as just whispered to me, it is too hot. It's far too hot. It's too hot. It doesn't know what's happened.

It would not cool down. I don't know what to do. Can somebody else take over food? It's just not working. Jess, I don't know. You're using the same equipment we've used. We need to do a run out of this kitchen. It's unusable.

Everything's set to hot. Well, that brings us to the end of another episode. Thanks so much for joining us. Jess, anything we need to tell people before we go? That, if you would like to suggest a topic, you can do so. There's a link in our show notes or on our website, just dogoonpod.com,

which is where you can also find information about live shows if we have any coming up. And you can find us on social media at dogoonpod across all socials, dogoon-on-podcasts on TikTok. Dave, boot this baby home. Hey, we'll be back next week with another fantastic episode. But until then, also, thank you so much for listening and goodbye! Bye!

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