Do Go On - 438 - The Rock 'n' Roll Murderer

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

Friend of the show, Cameron James, joins us this week to tell us a WILD tale about Rock N Roll, returning from the dead, and of course.... murder. This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 15:17 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ See Cam's show at the Comedy Festival : MixtapeSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our merch: https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we've got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnocky. And as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Gidey, boys.

Hey. Sorry. I was trying something new. So good to be alive. That's something I've been thinking about. And it's so good to have Dave back in now for two weeks in a row. That's right, two in a row. I'm back, baby.

I am back. Well, let's see if you can do three. He's fine. This week, we are joined by an esteemed guest, a returning friend of the podcast, Cameron James is also here. Woohoo! Gidey, boys!

Here you've heard the new catchphrase. I really like it. It's fun, isn't it? It's fun to say you stretch out, gaudet and then you hit boys real hard and fast at the end. Boys is a real staccato at the end. That's a bit of music. Cam will get that.

You guys want to understand that. I get it. As a museo, I get it. How's everyone doing? Thanks for having me. Ah, man, I mean, we're delighted to have you back. Your reports are always. always so much fun.

And I think I can speak for all of us when I say, we're fine. Okay. It could be better. I'd agree with fine as a base level, yeah. Yeah. Cam, I mean, it's down here in Melbourne, March, this is, this is our Christmas time. We don't do Christmas like you do up there. You guys do it in March?

We do it in, well, we call it something a little different. We call it the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. And it kicks up at the end of March. So the start of March is sort of like what you would have as. Christmas Eve. Sure. But you always come down. I can't believe you didn't realize this was our Christmas.

That's all. I think of it more like Hanukkah. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not just one night. It's a, it's a festival. It's a whole season. And we have big candles as well, don't we? Yeah, there's the big candles out the front of Melbourne Town Hall.

And all the comedians gather around and blow them out one at a time at the end of every week. That's beautiful. No, you're right. Actually, I can't believe if I haven't seen that before. It's clearly Hanukkah. Yeah, yeah, it's Hanukkah. And am I saying that wrong? Because I've heard some people say Chanika.

I don't think anyone's ever said that. What do you mean? It's Hanukkah with a silent chur. I thought I'd heard someone say Chanika. I just said Hanukkah on an episode of this show a few months ago, and someone sort of slightly patronizing and he said, oh, Matt had a go at saying that. So I said it wrong.

and I thought maybe it was the chip. I might have not been silent. So your way to, is not to look it up, it's just to try a new way. I've thought about it since. I haven't thought about it since. And now it came up.

What a great opportunity to find out. Is it because it's supposed to be more of like a hush, like a chaff. Oh, maybe. Kind of sound. But you've just gone, well, that clearly is chanika. Well,

because I've seen it written, I've seen it spelt like chanika sometimes. Have I not seen it spelled like chanika? It doesn't matter. I think you might. they've seen it spelt like that because now that you're saying this i think i've seen it spell like that. So I've said a spell like that. Imagine if we're, oh god, Matt, you idiot. And then that Twitter guy's going to get in contact and say, you nailed it. You nailed it. No, yeah. I think it's spelled,

anyway, why are we in a place we don't. Yeah, what you had tried to do was a great segue into the comedy festival. You were so good at segue into comedy festival and then you got into the Chanikers. Yeah, yeah. Let Dave take over. My eye is literally twitching, um, which has been doing it does it when I'm stressed and it's so funny that this has brought it on. That's the most I've ever seen at Twitch. It feels like it's going off right now. We do love the Melbourne International Comedy Festival time of year here in Melbourne. We're doing some live podcasts, which is great fun.

And Cam, you're coming down to do your new show, which you're also touring around Australia. And there's, you know, it's a full story you've got going on this year, which I'm so excited to see. just seen the blurb and heard you describe it a couple of times. You want to tell us what it's about because the concept, I'm very excited. Sure. The show is called mixtape and it's what I like to do with my shows, guys. Thanks for asking about my process. Um, is combined storytelling and music. Can you believe it? Is that for the first ever time? Well, do you know what's actually psychotic, Dave, is I, when I was coming up with this show, I said to someone, I think I've invented a new form of comedy.

I've got a story running through the show, but then I've got songs breaking up the story. And I think no one's ever done that before. And then my wife was like, that's musicals. You've written a musical. I was like, holy shit. What the fuck is wrong with me? I thought I'd invented something.

And then she's like, yeah, like the oldest form of entertainment. Well, I felt so dumb. But yeah, I'm got, I am, so my last show that I taught around Electric Dreams was mainly set in the early 2000s. It was my recollections of high school. This, I'm stretching myself and I'm telling a story that is set in the late 2000s. Max. Okay. It's all set in one year when I was 21 and I had my first serious relationship.

But more importantly, I got my first real job, which was as a singing waiter at a. a horror themed dinner theater restaurant in Newcastle. That's when my year's pricked up when I read that phone. And the message of the story is having to choose between those two things, the love or the career. And I mean, you've got to come to the show to see which one I picked you. You've got a heart out today, don't you? Because you've got to get down to the yellow submarine theater restaurant after this is so correct.

I'm doing, I'm playing exclusively theater restaurants on this tour. So if some more could open up, that would be good because I think they are a dying art form. Apparently in the 80s, there were like 18 in Melbourne or something. Tony Martin said when he moved over, he counted them up and it was something like 18 or some wild amount. It's crazy. Must have been the center of the theater restaurant universe, Melbourne briefly, I think. Melbourne was huge for it. I've done my research.

Melbourne was huge for it. There was a bar called like Mary and John's Teaky Lounge or something like that. And it was in the middle of city, and it was just, it blew up. Everyone loved it. And then more came out of that. Even Newcastle in early 2000s had three theatre restaurants. Wow. Isn't that insane?

Like, why? One is more than enough. But we had three. The one that you worked at, where would it sit, like, in the rankings of those three? Great question. Were you at the top one or were you? Great question. Well, we lasted the longest.

Okay. But I don't know if that's an index. or just like a cockroach surviving a nuclear fallout. What Melbourne's longest lasting one is witches and britches, I reckon. And that's, I don't know if it's still open, but the building's still there. And as a kid driving past it, it was very exciting to see that facade. Yeah. It's a great facade. It looks like castle.

Yeah. That one got shut down. That one got shut down because they found out that the owners were brewing their own spirits. Okay. Not even distilling it? They were brewing them. They were adding hops and yeast. Yeah, they were like making their own gin or something in a bathtub.

That's what I remember reading. So they're all a bit dodgy. That's amazing. I drank that. A kid at school made his own vodka one year when we're in like year 11. and that party was wild. It was like this brief period where everyone was off their heads

and then people were just spewing in every garden, every pot clan available. And that kid looking around being like, this party rules. I'm going to be remembered forever. That is insane. That's really dangerous, Matt. You could have all like gone blind.

I know. I had nerve damage. Isn't that? Such reckless behavior. Which is weird for a 17-year-old to be like that. Most 17-year-olds are quite sincere and genuine and serious. So looking forward to your show, Cam, but you're here this week to give us another fantastic report. We've had you on in the past for the Guinness Book Award records, the Matrix.

13th Beetle. No, 13 days as the 13th Beetle. 13th Beatles. The 13th Beetle. An honorary roadie. I mean, there's a little. been so many fifth beetles over the years. There probably are about 13.

13 fifth Beatles. Yeah, that's right. That was the last one I did solo. That was good fun. I have another music themed one for you this week. Great. Very, very exciting. Now, should we quickly explain to people who may not have heard the show before?

Matt, how does this show work? So, one of the three of us, or four of us in this case. The fourth beetle? Because our 13th Beatles in today. We go away and we report. We write up a report after researching a topic. It's basically like a school oral presentation. We bring it back, tell the others about it,

while they usually sort of rudely interrupt a lot and go on dog shit riffs and make the person doing the report sit there like, okay, I'm trying. I was actually about to get to a pretty important bit here. Can I jump back in yet or have you finished having fun? And then hopefully we'll make eye contact and realize how tense it's feeling for you and we'll say, oh, please do go on. And anyway, this week, Cam James, very lucky to have him in to do another report.

We normally start the reports with a question. I don't know if we're doing that this week, Cam? No. I always forget. I think every time I forget. Well, that's probably our job to remind you, to be honest. Yeah, as you were explaining, I was like, we should have reminded Cam about the question. I always forget every single time.

Well, we started with the question. The question was, do you have a question? You said no, we said correct. Now we start the report. That counts as a question, I think. I have a question, but it's not really relevant. My question is that can of Glenn 20 that was behind Jess earlier, is that going to be a part of the episode or is that just sort of?

I put it away. I can bring it back up if you want, but there are actually two cans of Glenn 20 behind me. Whoa. Yeah, we are flush with Glenn 20. It's going pretty well. Very well. There are tissues in here again this week. You know, WD-40 is stance of water displacement and it was the 40th test he'd done or whatever.

Oh. No, I didn't know that. Is Glenn 20 like... Was it the 20th Glenn who came out? They kept getting different glens in trying to make a cleaning product. And finally, the 20th Glenn. Yeah. The 20th Glenn is the 13th beetle.

13 days is a Glenn. Get the fuck out. I've put the Glenn 20 back up for you, Cam, so that would just be there ready for you to just look at whenever you need it. I think it's good because if this story gets to like stinky or dirty or whatever, you know, please feel free to spray me down. That would be appropriate. Is that what Glenn 20 does? It's more of an odour suppressant. Is that right?

I actually don't know what it does. This one's an all in one, so it does actually neutralise odors. Okay. But it also disinfect surfaces and robust bacteria. odors from fabrics. Sounds like the perfect deodorant. That sounds everything. By the way, this has been the most natural segue into an ad, I think, that any of us

have ever done. Thank you. We've gotten really good at it. Thanks to Glenn 20. And we were so complimentary of their product. Who is it? What the fuck is it? Yeah.

We're now doing ads on spec. So we send them into them and say, we can add this out unless you want to pay us. Or... We send it to them with an invoice. Yeah. Or you can... If you hate it, you can pay us to edit it out. Because we really bagged the product.

You pay us either way and then we'll do what you want to do. Yeah, yeah. That's how we all have mansions. Yeah, fuck yeah. How good is it being rich? Oh, man. I was hesitant at first, I'll be honest. I was like, oh, I'm getting pretty rich.

I don't know about this. I feel silly for that now because it rules. I'm never going back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Never going back. No, rich is actually way better. Yeah. It's so much better than that.

It's so good. I go to the supermarket. I don't even worry about the increase in prices. I mean, the fact that you still go is amazing. I got a guy. I order it online and a man brings it to me. Is it Glenn? It's Glenn.

Glenn 21. Okay, that's a bit. Yeah. Yeah, all right. Hey, should I do it? Should I dive in? All right, I just want to say at the beginning before I begin this report, two things.

I've got a name for this. this report. Ooh. I like to give it a name. It's always fun, you know. Is it Glenn? Oh, that's awesome. Are there any musician, Glenn rock stars that you can think of?

Glenn. Glenn Campbell, country musician. Fantastic. We've got one. Happy, happy now. Thank you. Yeah. There's probably others.

Glenn Ridge. We had him? Glidge. Did you imagine Glad Ridge? You start as Muso? Yeah. I assume so. Glenn Ridge.

Everyone gets a start in TV from music. Yeah. Or football or reality TV. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, maybe it was a football. They're the things that you do. The name of this report is the rock and roll murderer.

Oh. Holy shit. Okay. I like this. I can see why I use that title because I'm in. Yeah. Not bad. See, that's a hook.

And I also want to say as well, it is a music themed one. As you can probably guess from the title, it also involves crime. Yep. And the reason I've picked this is because my show. this year that I'm touring also has a story element at the intersection of music and crime. Right. And I'm a bit, it's sort of like a sweet spot for me. I love this whole, you know, I love this whole like show business meeting like like a, yeah,

true crime element. It's a real fun era for me. And hopefully one day my show gets adapted into a movie as well, as this should. This should also be a movie. Okay, shall I begin? Please. Here we go. This story begins on May 10, 2001, just to get the dates right for you there.

A 56-year-old man named Vinnie Taylor is peacefully fishing off the pier outside his South Florida retirement community home. When suddenly, he's swarmed by police and four U.S. marshals, handcuffed, dragged into a white van, and arrested for murder. Oh. The thing that made this even more salacious is that Vinnie Taylor was once the lead guitarist and singer of one of the biggest rock and roll bands

to ever come out of the 1960s, a band called Shah Na-N-N-A. Now, my first question for you guys is, do you know Shah-N-A-N-A? I do know when Homer says, bring on Shah-N-A-ha! That's kind of my... Of course it's a Simpson reference.

My touchstone for that. What about you? The other two, Jess and Matt, do you guys know who they are? I know the name and now I'm realizing that's possibly from The Simpsons. But I don't know the songs, but the name rings a bell, yeah, Matt. Yeah, no, I'm not sure either. I don't think it, yeah. I mean, I'm sure I've heard songs where they say, shan-na-na.

Sure. Is that them? Do they sing all the songs with shan-na-na-na-na-na, in it? Weirdly they do. Shana, shanna, nah, shanana, nah, nah. Is that one of this? Goodbye. No, you're way off base.

Actually, but the Simpsons reference is probably where I first heard of them, too. I think, but that's pretty much everything from 20th century pop culture. It really is. I'll, like, know about it from the Simpsons for about 10 years and then finally get it one day and then go, oh, that's what. Yeah. That's what that Simpson's joke is about. It's funny that sometimes I think it's less funny once I understand it, though.

Sometimes I'm like, I think of a kid why that's so good. Shana, like, oh, is that a real band. I thought it's just rhythmically, it sounded really cool. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, Shanaana, you probably have seen them before. Have you guys all seen the movie Greece? Yeah.

Yes. Okay, so you know in the movie Greece when they go to the dance and there's a band, playing on stage, a band called Johnny Casino and the Gamblers. And they play like, there's the dance contest is going on where Danny and Sandy is supposed to be dancing together. Yeah. But then Danny goes rogue and then he starts dancing with cha-cha and Sandy gets upset and leaves.

So the band on stage, they're called Johnny Casino and the gamblers in the movie, but in reality they are shana-na-na. I think Johnny Casino and the Gamblers is better. That's so good. They should have adopted that permanently. rules it is such a good name when I was in high school I kept pitching that name as a bear name to my dance I kept pitching Johnny Kazino on the gamblers and Bill posters and the and the prosecutors oh that's good it took me two seconds but that's good

worth it I will get to the murder in a second but I think the impact of this story will hit a little bit harder if we all have a little for who Shahnana are and who shana aren't, aren't. Which is one of the worst sentences I've ever written down. And saying it out loud, I was like, why the fuck did I write that? I guess it's great. So if you ever look up pictures of this band, you'll see they're quite a big band. And I don't just mean popularity-wise.

I mean numbers-wise, there's literally 12 members of this band. Yeah, 12. 12 people. In a rock band? In a rock band? You don't see that in a rock band. No. Horn section? We're talking big horns or something? No, strangely. They're pretty much... All right, this is where it gets even weirder. They're pretty much all singers.

And there's a couple of musos in the band. So they, um, they, they kind of have a crazy beginning, Sean, I know. And maybe I should get into it. So there's, if you look up photos and maybe you are doing that right now, Dave. But they are definitely am. I'm looking at these guys going, they've got some beautiful voices. I can just feel it. Oh, wow. 12 boys, by the way.

No girls, of course. Classic. And their look, as you can probably see, is pretty like 50s rockabilly style, like tight white t-shirts, black leather jackets, slicked back, greaser hair do. And if you ever listen to their stuff, that's pretty much exactly what they do. They do classic rock and roll songs. classic do-wop songs, you know, crunchy guitars, a lot of vocal harmonies. They look like they're from the 50s. They're actually not from the 50s.

They didn't form until 1969. So that's, if you're counting, like, a long time after the 50s, really. It's like nine years after the 50s, basically. In fact, it is. Exactly. Their whole thing that they did could kind of be viewed as a parody. of the 1950s. That's kind of what they were doing.

There were a bunch of guys that were slightly too young for the actual thing. And it's kind of almost like they're making fun of the shit that their older brothers and sisters were into when they were teenagers. It's almost like if, like,

from people our age, it's like if the next generation below us, there was just a really popular band that was sort of making fun of MGMT or the killers or something. and all the young kids are like, ha, ha, ha, isn't that funny? That's what they used to listen to.

And we're like, no, that's good. What are you talking about? Yeah, this is. The thing that was missing from my life was more MGMT. So I'm actually stoked about this. I'm actually loving it. Yeah. They also were a cover band.

They didn't really write many original songs. They pretty much just covered classic 1950 songs, do-op songs and stuff like that. I guess like you'd categorize them now as a novelty band. but that phrase didn't really exist back then. And weirdly, they became incredibly famous, especially in America, because they played Woodstock in 1969.

We did an episode on Woodstock a while ago. I read out who, yeah, the set list in order of who played. So that's another name I would have said. And at the time, I probably would have said, then they brought on Shah Na,

nah, or something like that. All the die-hard fans are going to be like, yeah, Dave's already made that joke. Yeah. Yeah, so how they got to that point is probably just as interesting. I mean, here's the thing.

As I've already said, this is sitting right at the intersection of my interest, like music and crime and the weird mystery. So I can get bogged down in the details that might not be interesting to other people. So please feel free to spray the Glenn 20 if this is getting due in the weeds. By the way, fantastic product, Glenn 20. Yeah, we're big fans over here. You might have heard me go quite for a bit. I'm trying to get to the bottom of the name,

and it seems like a mystery. Maybe it's something you could, you and Alexi could do a new series on Finding Glenn. Finding Glenn. Finding Glenn. Yeah, okay. All right, so I'll tell you a little bit about how Sean and I came to be. This badass rock and roll group started

as a Glee club at Columbia University, New York City. You guys probably know what Glee clubs are from the show Glee. Of course. I never saw Glee, but I just assumed they're like a singing club. Yeah. It's like an a cappella group, basically. It's like a group of dudes who, it's the extracurricular thing they do at uni. I guess you can do drama or sport or whatever.

These guys do just 12 guys just sit around and sing songs, basically. they're an a cappella group. They're called the Columbia Kingsman in 1960. That's still a better name than Shannana. Yeah, I think I would go Johnny Casino and the gamblers number one. Columbia Kingsman. Okay, that's number two, sorry. Close second.

Number three, Columbia Kingsman. Yeah. And then Shana. Probably. Then Shana. Yeah. Well, yeah, well, okay, well, we can write to them and hopefully they can go back in time and change their story.

They were made up a 12 uni-stubes. They were musical theatre kids and poetry majors who were trying to become famous as a vocal harmony group, which is just awesome. Like, already that's insane that that was something you could think to do in 1969. They didn't have Netflix. Yeah, you're like, hey, we should, you know how we all like 12 guys that just sing with no instruments? Let's get famous for this. Yeah, the money you have to make to support 12 guys. Yeah.

Yeah. really famous. So they had four original songs that were like folk songs very of the time, you know, like a Simon and Garfunkel vibe thing. And they decided to put on a showcase at uni where they'd invite a bunch of people from record labels to come and hear their original songs. They booked an hour show, but their four songs only made up like 10 minutes or whatever. And they needed to fill the time. We've all done that. We've all done that. We've all stretched out to an hour. Start doing some riffing in there. 12 guys doing crowd work.

In harmony, what do you do? What do you do? Are you guys dating? Is this your wife? How long have you been together? No, don't look at her. You answer. So to pat out their show, they decided to do a bunch of

cover songs of oldies from the 1950s, the previous generation. As we've already said, they kind of, they kind of were a bit too young for it. It was sort of songs their older siblings would have played. One of the original members of the band, Alan Cooper, says that there was no grand plan. We just picked these songs from the 50s because we all knew them from our childhood, and they were very easy for the band to play. And then they did the show. And according to the band, no one gave a shit about their four original songs. But the crowd went absolutely crazy for the 50s covers. And the uni loved it.

And they were like, we need you guys to start putting on shows all the time. If you could just do those 50s songs. Like it's just crushing. Like people are buying drinks. People are dancing. It's like a big party. And so they very quickly abandoned their plans of becoming a vocal harmony group.

And they just lean full into being like a 50s cover band very quickly by their second gig. And more than that, they they go all out costume and choreography wise as well. So they do a bunch of dance routines to these songs. They go out and they all buy a bunch of 1950s teen rebels style outfits, you know, like the rolled up t-shirts and gold lame jackets and they start slicking their hair back and kind of dressing like the 50s.

And just for a little bit of context for you guys, at this point in American history, 1969, when people looked back on the 1950s, they weren't picturing what we picture when we picture the 50. They weren't picturing like motorcycles and leather jackets and like greases or hoods or whatever. The main image of like the 50s back then was wholesome, all-American preppy stuff.

Like the show, leave it to beaver and the little rascals. And like, you know, Eisenhower. It was all like very buttoned up, preppy leather, preppy jackets,

you know, like Ron Howard from Happy Days, not the Fonds. Oh my God. Oh my God. You've nailed it in one. Yeah. And you know what?

It's also interesting. Happy Days had not come out yet. So this is pre-happy days. But there's like, there's a couple of rebels in history. Obviously there's Elvis was like the leather jacket dude, James Dean. There's a movie Blackboard Jungle,

which is about bikers and stuff. So, But the rebel figure was kind of like minor in pop culture. These guys, they were just like, hey, let's all dress like James Dean, basically. That would be cool. If we all, like, if we all just be the cool guy in the band and... No, I'm the cool guy. Hey, all 12 of us are the cool guy.

And so, like, they all decided to dress as the cool rebel guy and lean into this James Dean look about them. They all started slicking their hair back with gel, which one of the members who'd never used gel before referred to as disgusting grease. And can I just say, this is the first time in history that anyone refers to hair gel as grease. This predates the movie grease. Wow. This predates the happy days.

But they all thought that was funny. So they all started calling it grease as an in-joke. Wait, so they came up with greases and everything is from that. Yeah, these guys. So back then, when people talked about these like rebel figures, like, you know, James Dean, whoever, they weren't ever called greases. They were called hoods or juvenile delinquents or JD's. No one in history had ever called them a greaser before. Wow.

Until Shanana or the Columbia Kingsman, as they were known at the time, made a little joke about referring to hair gel as Greece. And then on stage, they started referring to themselves as greases. and they named their show. They put on this weekly show at Columbia Uni called The Glory that was Greece, G-R-E-A-S-E, which is like a, it's so nerdy. They're such nerds, like they're poetry majors. They took a line from an Edgar Allan Poe poem called To Helen, which is about Helen of Troy. And one of the lines is the glory that was Greece, G-R-E-E-C-E, and they just changed it. like so nerdy but yeah that's the fifth best title now the glory that was great yeah totally so that

became their thing and then people started calling them greases when they were walking around campus and people on campus started dressing like them because they were kind of popular and cool so like this 50s aesthetic started infiltrating columbia university and everyone was like fuck like the 50s is cool and like let's all dress like this. Let's wear leather jackets and cholesterol's greases and shit like that. Already this is interesting and maybe this is just me getting in the weeds, but I find it really crazy and weird. Yeah, no, that's, I love that.

It's so funny when, yeah, what we see is the 50s was a late 1960s invention almost. Yeah, totally. Yeah, not quite an invention, but it was taking something and... Well, taking like a small subculture and then now we all think, that's what everyone was like. Yeah, yeah. That's amazing. Yeah, totally. And I guess that does happen, like a generation removed. You start to just pinpoint certain things and go, that's what we were all doing. I remember watching the wedding singer. The first time I saw the wedding singer, I was like, I guess that's just what the 80s was. Everyone had huge hair and big jackets. But then when you watch, you know, when you see photos of your parents from the 80s, like, no one dressed like that. Maybe there's one guy in each group that dressed like that. But that's, anyway, that's now how we see the 80s and that's how we see the 50s, thanks to these guys.

So the Kingsman, they're a big hit on campus. They get a manager, another student, this guy called Ed Goodgold, great name, who tells them that they need to change their name. He tells them to change their name to Shah Na Na, which is like a classic backing vocal line from all those do-op songs that you were referencing, Matt. And they do. And, yeah, that's a little bit of history. As a little side note about Ed Good-Gold, I almost feel like this guy could have his own

report as well. He lived a very weird life. I don't have time to get into all of it, even though I want to. But as well as managing Shana Nah, Ed Goodgold is most famous for being the inventor of, wait for it, trivia. What? What? The concept of question and answer. What? What is trivia, if not just knowledge? Well, like, obviously, like, you know, quiz shows and stuff had existed for a long time on radio and probably TV as well. They'd been like quiz shows, but they'd never been like pub trivia, if you know what I mean? Like the idea of like you go to a pub and you're in a team and there's some guy asking questions and you're all competing. This guy, Ed Goodgold, started a trivia night at Columbia University and he came up with the idea. of people playing in teams and having names

and he kind of like codified what trivia has become. He published a book while he was at uni called The Rules of Trivia. And like, and that's how it kind of kicked off and became a craze. And weirdly, as another side note,

at those earlier trivia nights on campus, Sean I and R with a house band that would play between, um, first made questions? Between rounds, I guess. Like, how weird is that? Yeah.

So like, this is the birth of trivia. which when I look back on it as a moment in time, I'm like, oh, this is the birth of nostalgia in a way, like nostalgia for the previous generation. Like we've got this band that are kind of parodying their older brothers records. And then they've got this guy who's like, hey, I'm going to make a whole night where it's just about the past. Like, can you remember things from the past? And whoever wins is the person that remembers the most from this. You are the most nostalgic

Because you could name every element on the periodic table It's very strange So with Ed's backing the band set out in New York City To try and get booked in clubs But it's a huge wake-up call for them Because everywhere they audition, The club owners are like, What the fuck is this shit?

This is mental. What do you mean? It's 1969. It's the summer of love. It's like psychedelic, wild rock music And then there's these 12 theater nerds all pretending to be James Day and singing covers of songs from less than 10 years ago. It's so weird. Songs are still on the radio.

Yeah. Like, they'd be like, oh yeah, that song. Why? Why are you doing that? Only one club will book them. There's this place called The Scene who, um, whose Booker sort of thinks things, things, thinks they're a bit weird and funny. And he gives them a residency on Saturday nights with a regular spot at the prime time hour of of 2 a.m. Yes.

Yes. How good is that? Like, imagine if that happened with comedy, too. It's like, hey, yeah, you're on, but you're on at 2 a.m. every time. You're fucking awesome. Yeah. Imagine if that's how you got your start in an industry, like, I don't know, like radio or something. Oh, yeah, true, actually.

It's got to be crazy. Sorry, Jess. Imagine if you did that for three years, you're fucking idiot. One a. At least I am at perfect time. Hey, at least you have a national audience with that. These guys were in a club playing to like 40 people. Who's there at 2 a.m.?

Yeah, who's there? Well, as it turns out, the scene is like a bit of a dive bar, and they kind of like, they pretty much get famous for booking the weird books of the, the weird bands of the era around New York and around America, bands that aren't getting booked in any of the big rooms. Some of these bands you might have heard of. Let's see if you've heard of these guys. The doors.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Jimmy Hendricks, the Velvet Underground, Janice Joplin. These are all like weirdo bands at this point. They haven't quite broke. This is pre-Woodstock, remember? So like all these weirdo bands are hanging out there.

And Shana are on at 2 a.m. doing their weird review. So it's kind of weird because they start their residences at this exact moment that all of this uncool music suddenly becomes the coolest music in the world. and the scene becomes a scene. Every night, it goes from being a dive bar to being packed every single night. The coolest people in New York City start coming, all the theater actors and all the artists, Andy Warhol hangs out there, Liza Minnelli, Peter Allen, Mick Jagger, Linda McCartney,

all these people are there to watch the cool bands. And at every night at 2 a.m., Chanana, come on. And according to legend, during their first ever performance, the crowd is a bit, baffled. They're a bit like, what the fuck is happening him? But then Jimmy Hendricks is watching and apparently he stands up on a table and starts cheering for them. And then the rest of the crowd starts cheering from them. And overnight, they become one of the coolest bands in New York City just because they have Hendricks's approval. Hendricks loves them so much that he gets them booked on Woodstock. In fact, he refuses to play Woodstock unless they're his open

act. So if you look at the line up, which you guys would have done on your app, Hendricks closes Woodstock really early in the morning on the Monday, I think. It's like 11 a.m. or something. Isn't this something crazy? It's a really weird time. Like, it's they, the party's been going all night and then Hendricks is on like in the morning. And Shanan and are on before him. They do like a 20 minute set right before him. And when you watch the movie, you can see he's watching from side of stage going and crazy and weirdly so is Marty Scorsese and like there's all these people watching Sean I know it's just it's really bizarre it's really cool so he so he plays they play

Woodstock it's their eighth gig at this point they haven't they haven't been around very long they play Woodstock they ate them a gig yeah insane and and I guess like because it's like maybe the tail end of the 60s this whole There's a bit of flower power overkill. The hippie crowd just love it. Like, I don't know if it's ironic. It's really hard to tell, but it seems like maybe there's a touch of irony, and they just get fully embraced by the hippie crowd.

Everyone's loving it because it's a throwback, I suppose. They think it's funny. The sets of powerhouse of a set, it gets featured in the Woodstock documentary. Most of their set is in that documentary. It makes them famous around the country, and they start touring, their show, the glory that was Greece around huge theaters. That tour kicks off a wave of 50s nostalgia that takes over all of North America. The musical Greece comes out in 1971. Multiple other 50s style bands start appearing. There's a TV show called Love American Style, which inspires the

movie American Graffiti, starring Ron Howard, which then inspires the TV series Happy Days, starring Ron Howard, which has a character called the Fons, who describes himself as a greaser on screen. And then all of a sudden, Greaser becomes the word everyone's using to describe this 50s throwback guy. And it's all fucking just these weird theater nerds from like, from a uni review show that we're trying to be a famous like harmony group. Wow.

That's amazing. Sean and I are in Greece as well. As I mentioned, they write a couple of songs for the movie soundtrack, including. including my favorite song, the song Sandy, which is, you know, when they go to the drive-in and they have a fight in the car and Sandy leaves and then Danny sings a song, Oh, Sandy, baby, someday when high high school is done. I just love it. I fucking love that song.

Wow. And so then they actually wrote, wrote that track. They wrote that track. That's awesome. They wrote a few songs for them just for the movie that weren't the musical. What's the process of 12 guys writing a song? I think it's just one dude that writes the songs.

I looked it up and it's like, this song's written by Screaming Scott Simon. And by the way, they all have cool names like that. There's like Screamin' Scott Simon. There's a guy called John Bowser Bowman. There's Vinnie Taylor, who's the main guy that I'm going to be talking about for you in a second.

But we're not quite there yet. I'm almost at the end of my context for Sean, I know. Isn't it? But you've, so you've got, like, supposedly Happy Days takes place in the 1950s. And the Fons is using these anachronistic words like greases? Yeah, I mean, you're bringing it all down, aren't you? The veil of truth that we all thought, the authenticity of the show Happy Days. Where was the research?

Yeah, I think, I hope that's listed as a goof on a. IMDB. I'm actually, Greaser wasn't actually the term they used back then. I actually blow my mind. I've brought this up to Alexi on one of our podcast once. I was like, did you know the word Greece? I didn't even exist back then. It didn't start till the 60s and became popular in the 70s. And I thought it was interesting. Alexi couldn't have given less of a shit. Really? We're all gripped here. Yeah, I love it. I think it's cool. I think it's like a really fun, weird fact. Alexi was like, yeah, whatever, man. That feels very Alexi.

I hated it. I was so upset. Yeah, in fact, there's a, there's a, I read this, um, academic paper in my research for this report about, it's called Sharnana and the invention of the 50s. And, um, anyone who wants to read that can read that. That's online. And it's pretty much all about this stuff. They're like iconography became a replacement for what was originally like the image of the 50s people had in their head. It's like it replaced people's memories of the 50s.

Yeah, 100% like the fake version replaced the real version. There would be, there'd be guys who were teenagers in the 50s who now believed that they were like the fonts, you know? No, we, that was us. That was we did that. It's like, oh, we've tracked out some photos, Dad, and that was not you. You were a freaking nerd, dad. Yeah, just wearing a plaid button up shirt, you fucking loser. All right.

So I've made a bit of fun. the fact that these guys were all musical theater dorks pretending to be tough guys but most of the accounts i read say there was one genuine tough guy in the band and that was the guy from the beginning of the story viny taylor viny was not a musical theater kid he's actually from the bahamas he played in a lot of real rock and roll bands and um when you watch the clips you can tell he's like a really fucking good guitar player and when you look him up he looks the most legit of all of them he has tattoos he's got this like kind of strung out sleazy New York City kind of look he looks a bit like he's in the Ramones or something like he's got he's got mutton chops and he wears like big

glass he looks cool and he's a druggo as well like he's clearly like a drug guy the other guys smoke a little bit of weed but you can tell even just from looking at Vinnie taylor that this guy parties a little harder than the musical theater kids um all right so I just wanted to give a little context for that. What else can I tell you? Okay, so after Woodstock, a lot of stuff happens for this band. They get a TV show. They're in the movie, Greece.

They tour around. They're 12 members blow out and shrink down many times during that era. A lot of people come and go. I think over the course of like the next 10, 15 years, there's 49 members of Sharnie. Oh, wow. Yeah, I pulled up the Wikipedia page and their former members section was very long. And I thought, I reckon Cam might get to this. That's insane.

There's a lot. And like, some of them just quit and become stuff that's not in New Zealand. One of the main original members, Alan Cooper is now a rabbi. There's another guy that's an academic, George Leonard. He writes papers for Columbia University and stuff. Most of them start touring around in like break off. versions of Shah-N-A. You know how like the Eagles do that shit and the Beach Boys?

There's always different. There's two U-B-40s. I love there's demand for multiples of certain bands. Yeah. There's enough, U-B-Fer or four to go around. Is it like the real Shah-N-A-N-A or Shah-N-A-N-A? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's all names like that.

The real Shah-N-N-A, the original Shah-N-N-N-Sha. Na-ha. Well, weirdly, there is a band called N-N-N-N-Haw. But they're not official. They're like a, because then this starts happening too. They starts being tribute acts to their band, which is already a tribute act. That's so good. And one of the most popular ones is Nana Shah,

who start touring around the country and drawing almost as big a crowd. Wow. And Sha Nana try to stop them, but they can't because they don't own any of these songs that they're singing. Everyone's like, that cover is ours. You stop doing that cover. We did it at first. We covered up first.

Yeah, Nana Shah. So now at this point it gets confusing because, like, at first we have like the real taking, the fake taking over the real earlier. But now it's like the fake and the real are sort of entwining. And it's like no one's quite sure, you know, what even is Shah Nana? What is Nana? What is going on? It's all just like fake versions of real things and real versions of fake things. I promise I am going to get to the murder soon.

But first, I need to jump forward. to the late 1990s. So in this area, in the 80s, we've got a lot of copycat bands, a lot of different offshoots of the band. Some members are going solo. Some members retire from music and show business entirely. Some of them seem to disappear.

In 1997, in South Florida, the home of retirement communities, there's a new guy in town. This guy shows up to South Florida. He's handsome, he's charming, he's in good, shape. He's shy and polite, but he has an undeniable bad boy edge. One night, this new, handsome old bad boy shows up at a bar, watches two do-wop cover bands on stage. There's a man

called The Saints, another man called the Mello Kings. Their two leaders are two guys called Tommy and Joe. The bad boy watches both of their shows. Afterwards, he compliments their sets. And then he tells them that he is Vinny. Taylor, the former lead guitarist of Shah Na. And for these two doo-wop dudes, Vinny is God. They can't believe it. No one has heard from Vinny in 30 years. He's not one of the ones that went off and had his own solo thing or joined one of the

real Shanana bands. He just kind of faded off. And all these guys from other bands, they've been cashing in forever, but not Vinny. He never sold out. And guess what? He's here in South Florida. It's 1997. And he wants to start a band.

So Vinnie asked Tommy and Joe if they'll merge both of their bands and become his backing band. And they do. And this new band becomes a hit in South Florida retirement community scene. Like it's, they're just, they're touring. I don't know if you guys have seen. There's a documentary called, um, fuck, it's either called almost heaven or not quite heaven or something like that. It's set in this world, like the South Florida retirement community world.

It's almost like entire towns are just retirement homes, if you know what I mean. Like there's this place, they call it the Disneyland of retirement communities, and it's like as big as Disneyland, Florida. And there's multiple bars and, like, cafes all throughout it. And there's always like oldies bands playing at them. So if you can get on that circuit, not a bad circuit to get on it. Like constantly touring, constantly making money. People are loving them.

They're a big hit. It may not be Hendricks and Warhol hanging out to watch them, but Vinny's still pretty happy with where he's found himself in life. And he starts getting into it too. He starts bringing back the old Shannana style. He starts billing himself as Florida's number one greaser, which is cool. His website says Vinnie Taylor, the number one greaser, the coolest of the cool, the original bad boy of doo-wop.

Be great with it. Finish the sentence. Original bad boy of do-wop. I'll do what. And also, the coolest of the cool. The coolest of the cool. That is awesome. It's a good, I mean, that's confidence right there.

He starts dating a local lady named Jessica Hart. They move in together to her beachfront apartment. He's not as famous as some of the other former bandboy members, but he is making a nice living. He's playing a lot of charity shows around the Florida Keys. He's a beloved member of the community. Local politicians love him. The cops love him.

All in all. he's living a pretty nice life. There are a few odd little things, though, during this time. For one, his new bandmates, Tommy and Joe, have noticed that Vinny's guitar skills aren't quite what they used to be. I know he's in his late 50s now. Maybe he's a little bit rusty, but he doesn't play like a former legendary guitarist. In fact, he plays more like someone who's just learned the guitar in recent years.

But you haven't played for a while, you know? You sort of, yeah. Your fingers are getting a bit old, a bit slower. And obviously, these two guys who he's a god to, they'd recognize him. So it's not some, that's not some guy pretending to be, obviously. Yeah, of course. I hope not. It's got to be the guy.

He's the co-friend. He's the cool of the cool. Yeah. He's the original bad boy. You can't fake that. Can't fake it. His girlfriend, Jessica, says, here's another strange thing. His girlfriend, Jessica says sometimes Vinny wakes up in the middle of the night,

convinced that he hears someone at the front door, climbs out the bedroom window and runs off into the darkness. Hey, we've all been there. We've all regularly done, man. We all have weird quirks and... Yeah, we've all heard someone breaking in and left our partner to be horribly killed. I'm out of here. See you later. Bye.

And the third strange thing about Vinnie Taylor is that Vinnie Taylor died of a heroin overdose in 1970. Okay, okay. Okay. So this is a ghost. Yeah. I mean. Well, that makes sense to why he's not very good at guitar. I can't even hold the bloody thing.

He's going through it. He's going through it. He noise out of it at all. And he hears someone at the door. It's one of his ghost pals. Yeah. And he goes out of the window to meet them. Do you go to a ghost bath?

He doesn't have to go through doors. He can just float out a window. Yeah, ghosts go through windows. Everyone knows that. Oh, Jessica. This is just classic, isn't it? Isn't it? That's amazing that he's got, like, I was about to say. Well, this isn't the days before the internet.

But you've just said he's built himself on his own website as the original bad boy. I know. I'm going to get to his website a little later. That's so great. Like the original bad, he's so bad that he obviously faked his own death in the 70s. That's bad. Lade low and now he's back playing the retirement circuit. That is bad.

That's bad. Whatever he did that caused him to fake his own death, statute of limitations up. He's like, I can just be, I can come back. I can live freely now. Great. I'm going to go start. I'm going to go join two bands together and be a front. man yeah so so viny taylor uh will say on the record and i don't want to spend too much time

on this because all this sad shit is a bit too sad but viny taylor did pass away in 1974 drug overdose um he was struggling with with drugs um he did pass away that is true the question remains who the fuck is this guy in in south florida now who's like billing himself as viny taylor and to answer that question i need to go back in time once more to July 25, 1969, less than a month before Sharnanah played Woodstock. And the day that Elmer Edward Solly murdered his girlfriend's son. Again, very sad. Don't want to go into that too much.

But there's a guy called Elmer Edward Solly, who a month before Woodstock committed murder and was sentenced to a 25-year sentence in a maximum security prison. He goes by Edward, not Elmer. I'm going to call him Edward for the rest of this report. if that's okay with you guys, don't get too cross with me. I know that Elmer is a funer name to say, but it's also... It's also hard to say. It's hard to say.

Elma. Elma. It's not a nice name. No, not in our accent. Maybe in America, like, Elmer. And we only know the famous Elmer's Fudd as well. Yeah. Yeah.

Stick with Edward, I think. I'll stick with Edward. That's a nice name. So Edward is sentenced to 25 years in a maximum. security prison for murder. His mom, a lady named Edna, Edna and Elma. Jesus Christ. Edna is like his patron saint from the outside. She refuses to believe that her boy is a murderer and she begins writing letters to the DA that Edward is not only innocent but also he's being mistreated by guards in prison. She does such a strong letter writing campaign that eventually

Edward is transferred to a medium security prison. That's a powerful letter writing campaign. Do you reckon she's like saying some really cooked stuff in those letters? And that's why they're like, all right. Yeah. I was thinking that maybe it was like 10 a day and they're just so, like, bored of it. They're like, whatever. Get this guy to meet him security.

See all this mail I have to read because I have to read all of it. I was thinking that her letters included like really accurate nudes of herself. And she said there'll be more when these come, where these come from if you send my boy to another prison, you know. But are they drawings? Drawings, is what I'm the same? She's doing drawings. Yeah. They had cameras back then.

They had cameras. What? They did have, they had cameras in the 60s. Yeah, what? She was on drawings. I never heard of a nude be described as accurate. It's a very accurate. Incredibly accurate nude.

Imagine if you sent a nude to someone and they wrote back, whoa, so accurate. Oh, that's spot on. Oh, that's a dead ringer. All right, let's all try. Let's send a nude. Let's all try it tonight, and then we'll meet back and talk about that way. All right, so Edward gets transferred to a medium security prison. He's a mortal citizen.

He's friendly with the inmates and the guards. he begins teaching himself music. In particular, he likes the doo-wop songs from the 1950s. What a strange coincidence. During his stay in the joint, as we call it, in the biz, or in movies I've seen, Edward becomes friends with his prison psychologist. Now, I don't know anything about the rules of being a prison psychologist. I think they're probably similar to being a regular psychologist.

But maybe if it's slightly stricter, I'm going to go out and live and say you probably shouldn't become besties with you with your patients. And I've tried to befriend my psychologist and she resists. Jess, you're very needy. And I say, I know, bitch. Let's get a cocktail. Let's get into it. Yeah, it's so funny. Like, he's obviously a charming dude because his psych becomes his friend, which is.

is just so crazy to me. The psych convinced he convinces the warden that Edward should be allowed to go on furlough to visit his sick grandmother. So furlough is when you get to leave, like it's a Navy saying, you get to leave the ship or whatever to go on land for, you know, like to see someone at home. Apparently some prisons do that too where you can like leave and go visit a sick relative or something. So the first two times, the warden agrees, the first two times his psychologist accompanies him

and Edward is on great behavior. The third time, his psychologist says, you know what, you've been so good. He's a little treat for you. Yeah, I trust you to go by yourself. Just make sure you're back at prison by five or whatever the five is. And so Edward leaves. And as you probably guess, never comes back at all. and I just I'd love to know what

like there's no info in this but I'd love to know what happened to the psychologist after that can you imagine they're like the psychologist being really upset or like something must have happened to him yeah there's got to be an explanation guys oh my god oh no I hope he's okay have we checked the hospitals this is not like the guy who murdered that kid this is not like him this is not like him at all Edward is a good boy he probably hit traffic that's probably what

Yeah, he'll be here. He'll be just keep tapping the watch. Give him 15 minutes. Edward is not seen for 25 years. Wow. That's a good run. That's a really good run. Most of this time is pretty undocumented.

There are a couple of instances where he does pop up. But this only, you know, gets found out after the fact. In 1975, he's arrested for theft, but he manages to walk on that because he has, he's going by a different alias by this point. In 1979, he's arrested for speeding. But again, he has a different. for an alias and again he walks my name is Chris Innocent okay that is such a good name that's a good magician name yeah Chris Innocent why is Chris such a good magician name yeah

because it's like Christ it makes us think of Jesus Christ yeah great magician the the OG so he goes through multiple aliens over the years and maybe maybe it's because he loves the oldies or maybe it's because he wanted to pay respect to an idol of his maybe it's just ego but at some point between the years 1979 and 1997 he chooses the alias of deceased rock star Vinnie Taylor he gets a birth certificate knocked up he gets a baptism certificate which I didn't even know was something you could get he gets a social security number all of it he begins living life as Vinnie Taylor

He's also a wanted man during this entire time. So there's a 25-year window there where he's a fugitive and people are still looking for him. His mom, Edna, refuses to cooperate with the police the entire time for this 25-year window. They think that she was in touch with him. She's denying it. They keep threatening to, like, I guess get her for obstruction of justice or whatever. and she's always like, do whatever you want, but I'm not telling you anything about my son.

Like, she's a pretty badass mom, I guess. The original bad mom. The original bad mom. Do what? Eventually, the police give up and the case is turned into a cold case. Chief Investigator, Detective Louis Kinkle, which is a good name. That was a little. Kinkle.

Yeah, Louis Kinkle. Yeah, Louis Kinkle says, we believed we'd never find him. He lived under. ground and die in the woods and we'd never know what happened to him and no one pretty much did until 2001 as I mentioned earlier Vinnie Taylor moves to South Florida begins touring this uh retirement community scene Tommy and Joe the fake has now outlived the real at this point Edward plays the part of Vinnie well he has a custom van with a pick of him on the side a pick of him or the real Vinnie yeah a pick of him actually not the real Vinny that's me

Is it? It was a long time ago, obviously. I'm older now. Yeah, that was before I died from a heroin overdose. The fact that you're on the run for murder and you've got a van with your photo on the side of it is incredible. Isn't it crazy? You wouldn't even think twice or you wouldn't look at it. You go, well, clearly a murder wouldn't have a picture of their face on the van.

That's more of a... I realize that, Adrian. It's just one of the most strange incidents. I still can't... Like, someone should do a real psych... Maybe not his prison psychologist, but someone else should do a psychological... Report on like this guy, why would he, he must have had a big ego or something, right, like to think that he could do this and sort of, you know,

plaster his face everywhere and all this shit. So, all right. So he's got this van with his photo on the side. The license plate is SNN1, like Shanana 1. He has a gold satin, sharnanah jacket that he wears everywhere. He has jewelry with the band's name on it as well. He makes his own website, which I mentioned earlier, which has since been taken down. but is still up on archive.org.

Thank God for that resource. Thank God for the way back machine because I've spent a bit of time scrolling it over the last couple of days. He's got an extensive biography, a merch store, a photo gallery. This guy has a better online presence than me, to be honest. Like, it's huge.

There's a lot on here. I wonder if I, did I write down some of my favorite quotes from here? I did, yeah. Can I read some of them on my favorite parts? Absolutely. All right, so the website is shanaanar one.com. Seems legit. Yeah.

It says in 1974, Vinnie left the music scene with what could be termed a shroud of mystery. Yes, you could term it that. I could say that, yeah. That's such a great way to describe a death. the circumstances were only known to a select view in the industry. But the bad boy continued singing under the guise of anonymity in order to protect certain economic and personal relationships that were important to him.

Although some known individuals tried to discredit him into oblivion for their own reputations and greed, the bad boy vowed to never totally disappear from music and the fans that he loved. So good. I love that he keeps calling him. himself the bad boy. Yeah, the bad boy.

It's so good and it's in italics as well. We know, it's like, we know you're writing it, mate. Yeah. Yeah. So funny as well if it is ego that it is about, that reputation isn't his. Yeah, somebody else. Yeah. But again, it's like a fantasy though, isn't it?

You get to be like, yeah, I'm a rock star. Yeah. I did all these cool things. Yeah. That's me. I'm a bad boy. And you're not going to like get caught for it because the real one's dead. Yeah, exactly.

just this foolproof way of taking over a new life. This is another line I really liked. He honed his silken voice under the street lamps of Manhattan's Little Italy during the golden age of rock and roll. Isn't that an evocative? I mean, you've never heard of a silken voice. I love it.

It's like a Bruce Springsteen lyric, like under the street lamps of Little Italy. It's a well-known fact that when Vinnie would take the lead vocals singing a love ballad that many, many girls would remember him until this very day. Wow. It's a well known fact. It's a well-known fact.

It's a well-known fact. It's sort of, it's almost feels like he's saying some huge thing, but then in the end, it's like, they'll remember him. Yeah, they're not. Yeah. If you want, some night go, it's what that rings about. Yeah. I think I saw him seeing, maybe.

Yeah. Yeah. Probably. How can it be a fact that some people will remember you? A well-known fact. A well-known fact. But some women. Some women. Some women will remember this man.

Men, not so much, but women. The women will remember those silken voice. I'll get back to the website a little bit later. I want to say, yeah, during the 25 years that he's on the run, and during the time that he's in South Florida, he does have a few close calls. As I mentioned earlier, his new bandmates, Tommy and Joe, they begin to suspect something's off,

and maybe he's not exactly who he says he is. So they do, in my opinion, the smart thing and contact the actual sharnana via sharnana.com, probably, and say, hey, we're in a band with Vinnie Taylor, but we think he's not the real Vinny Taylor. Can you confirm whether he is or not? The manager of Shananara guy called Peter Ehrlichson, he finds it's very odd because Vinny has been dead for three decades at this point. And he says, yeah, no, that's not him.

He died of a drug. I was at the funeral. I remember. I was very sad. The bandmates then confront Edward, aka Vinny, and say, hey, we rang Sean Arnana, and they said Vinnie Taylor's dead. So what do you say to that?

And then Edward says to them, okay, what I'm going to tell you is highly classified information. This is awesome. This is so good. He says, I actually faked my death because I was working for the CIA at the time. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Go big. Yeah.

I think now's the time to go real big if you can. Yeah, he says, Vinnie Taylor was my cover name. My real name is Danny Catalana, which is not his, not even his real name. So is that just a new alias altogether? He's just got a new alias, but he's saying that that was his original name. Vinny Taylor was a cover name. He was in Shah Nana, but more importantly, he was a highly trained assassin and operative for the CIA. Okay.

All throughout the 1960s and 70s. and that's why he had to fake his own death. I love it because he's making more things that'll be easily disproved. Yeah. It's like, oh, show us some of your highly trained skills. Oh, I can't do that in front of civilians. I hurt my knee.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So Tommy and Joe believe it weirdly. They're like, oh, awesome. Yeah, okay, cool. That's actually cool. Do you think you rifted in the moment or had that backup story ready to go in case they figured it out?

Yeah. I don't know if he had the backup story, but he had a backup birth certificate. So he has a burst certificate with the name Danny Catalana on it or Daniel Canalana or something. And does he carry that with him at all time? So if they confront him, he's like, well, let me just reach into my pocket and blow your mind. And once this one gets uncovered,

you'll have one deeper down. And my actual name is Chris Innocent. And there's a coin behind you here. So the band keep doing their show. shows. And every now and then, the manager of Fashana and our Peter Eurlison receives letters from dissatisfied customers who say they attended a terrible Vinnie Taylor show in South Florida and they want their money back. So Peter's like, he gets annoyed by this. He sends a cease and desist letter to Edward, aka Danny C, Danny Catalano. Edward replies to him, no, I am the real

Vinnie Taylor. I faked my death and I'm going to continue doing these shows. Peter's furious about this. And then according to an interview with him I read, he listened to some of Edwards cover songs online because you could buy the CD. You could buy like a Vinnie Taylor CD and he listened to it and he was like, actually he's pretty good. He's like, he's actually pretty good. And then that's the man of his talent when he hears it. That like, that softened him. a bit. He's like, he's actually pretty good.

At that point, he signed Daddy Catalano. So he goes to him like, oh, you know what? You can keep doing the show, but just please don't call yourself Vinnie Taylor anymore. Just go by your real name. And then he actually encourages him. He's like, you're really good. You could, you could actually make it off the back of your own name. That's awesome. Yeah. So, and they decide not, he decides not to sue. He says, I didn't want to give him any more publicity. I just decided to let him do what he does. So Edward, maybe to like, you know, he's a little shaker. by the cease and desist.

Maybe he wants to stop any further snooping. He rebrands himself as Danny C. He's still claiming that he's one of the original members of Shanaana, but he's like using the name Danny C now. I mean, there's 49 members. Yeah. Sure. Sure, there was a Danny C in there.

Who knows? And like he starts, so his website gets rebranded around this point, 2000, 2001. He starts calling himself Danny C on the website. A couple of more things that I found on that website that I found fun to read in the updated bio, it says, even today with his many accomplishments, Danny C is one of the few entertainers that hasn't fallen victim to the ego syndrome, like many of his peers, which is just fun. That's good, because I think that everything you've said about him, that rings true for me.

Humble guy. The very next sentence is, even now, while residing in his palatial estate, in southwest Florida. Danny still likes to hang out with a lot of the dedicated oldies fans and has the highest respect for them. And then he has photos of what is allegedly his palatial estate

that has its own recording studio in it. He was living in his girlfriend's apartment. I set up earlier. It's a photo of him at Graceland or something. Yeah. Just out the front of the White House. I live here. Perhaps most notably,

around this time, the photo gallery on his websites which by the way the the URL is now shanana dannyc.com the website photo gallery starts getting populated with photos of Danny C posing with like local politicians and police officers at various community events like he's really going out of his way to almost rub it in the faces of the people you know like look see how can I be a fraud when not like all the cops love me and all the local politicians love me stuff like that helps never do anything fraudulent I don't think they'd be involved in anything fraudulent so famously

they're bulletproof yeah straight as a cop is not what they say that's what I say yes straight straight as a Floridian cop I'm sure they say that don't I've got that tattoo to my ass yeah so around this time the cold case reopens detective Louis Kinkle who gave up on this case several years ago. He's back on the job. He believes that technology is advanced so much that he can finally make some progress on this case. He employs a forensic artist called Frank Bender

to do some aged up versions of Edward's original mug shop. Kinkl and Bender. What a combo. I mean, you'd watch the show. I would watch the show, yes. Yeah. Frank Bender's kind of famous, whenever you watch true crime stuff,

especially about serial killers from the 70s and 80s and shit. It's often Frank Bender's, like, forensic artwork that leads to some breakthroughs in the case. He's kind of, his main thing was aging up. Like, here's what this guy would look like now.

Wow, that's cool. And he caught a few, he helped catch a few people, including another serial killer called John List, like 25 years after his murders. At this point, too. So the cold case reopens. They get Ray Bender on the job to start.

aging up some of the original mugshots. Around this time as well, Edward's mom, Edna, dies. She's been keeping the family quiet for the entire 25-year period. She passes away. Kinkle goes to the funeral, buddies up with the family. I'm sorry for you lost, blah, blah, blah. And he starts talking to Edna's husband after the funeral. And he says, come on, like, you know, tell me a little bit about where Edward ended up. You know, I know you guys know. And And Edna's husband says, look, it was Edna's wishes that none of his talk about it. All I'll say is that he's a singer nowadays. And he's based in South Florida.

And he goes by the name Danny Singh. But that's all I'll say. You're not getting anything else out there. This is his website. This is his website. This is the address. He's his phone number. This is what it looks like now.

But that's it. That's it. Yeah, that's all I'll give you. This where he says his palatial mansion is, I don't know if you'll actually find him there. That's the White House. So, Kinkle, Kinkle goes back to the office, looks up, you know, Danny C's, South Florida singer,

finds Danny C's website where, luckily, there's hundreds of photos of him posing with cops and local politicians and on stage and stuff. And bizarrely enough, all the photos look pretty identical to Frank Bender's updated mugshot. hard work that he's done. So they employ the US Marshals to stalk Edward for a few days. During that time,

they begin to believe he is him. I think they, I don't know if they went and watched him perform, but I'd like to imagine they do. Like they go and watch... I'm imagining them sitting at the back of like a lounge, so like little tables, that kind of venue.

They're sitting at the back and they're, so they're not seen, but they have drinks with like little straws and umbrellas in them. And they go to each other. You know what? He's actually pretty good. Are we sure we want to arrest this guy?

And they let him off. It would be crime against music to the rest of this guy. Look, you got to come clean, you got to give you real name, but I think you should perform under it. Yeah, you're actually really good. You'd be great in prison. You should perform in prison. And then at 10 p.m. on May 10, 2001,

the U.S. Marshals and Louis Kinkle and the local police, Start sneaking up to the apartment that he shares with Jessica. On their way up the lawn, Kinkle spots a guy sitting on the pier fishing peacefully by himself. It's Edward, the man pretending to be Vinnie Taylor. Detective Kinkle strolls up to him, very calmly taps him on the shoulder and says, and I love this line, catch anything? That's a great.

That is awesome. Yeah, that rules. That's a great. That Kinkle must have been so stoked. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like walking up and he's sort of rackies about like, okay, okay, come on, come on, come on, come on. I've got it. Are there any fish around? No, no, no, no.

Okay, can I go again? Good morning. No, that's not enough. Damn it. Did he say, because I have, because I just did or something like that. I mean, he probably said something like it. It's so good. And then apparently Edward turned around and saw a whole team of law enforcement with guns drawn on him,

and Kinkle said, come on Eddie. it's time to go home. Oh, that's good. That is real. That is good. And he said, Shana, nah, jumped into the water.

Yeah, swam away. The media had a lot of fun with the story, obviously, you know, former rocker, con artist living in Florida, you know,

pretty much everyone in Florida, in South Florida got interviewed about him and pretty much everyone says the exact same stuff. There's a quote from Scott Robbins, a club booker that worked with him a lot, who says, when he was told Edward was a murderer,

on the run for nearly three decades. Scott Robbins said, well, that's not good. But I tell you what? He put on a hell of a shot. Well, it's not ideal. Edward ended up serving three years in prison. He was released on good behavior three years later.

So he's a fugitive for 25 years. Does three years. Somehow he charms them. He's released again on good behavior. He's still with Jessica throughout this time. Um, four years later, he passes away from natural causes. How long did he have left of his original sentence? I mean, he was only in jail for, uh, I mean, escaped in 1979.

So he would have served less than five years. Yeah. We would have had, he would have had 20 years left on the sentence. Um, and then he escaped. Very serious crime. Yeah. Very serious, a very serious crime. Yeah.

So he passes away in 2007. Um, as of 2020. Shah and I have ceased touring as of 2024. Nana Shah are still touring. Yeah, I kind of, I don't really know what the moral of the story is. I tried to find one. You know, I keep thinking like it's a story about invention and about like how nothing is real, like an invented 1950s and invented rock and roll band, a murderer who invents his identity.

I'm not smart enough to come up with a full thesis about it, but I think it says something about America, and I think that's a bad thing. So anyone who's listening who wants to try and find a good thesis in that and maybe get back to us, I feel it feels like everyone in the story like wants to believe, like the band wanted to believe like like, or the people watching the band,

that's what it was like back then. And then when this guy turned up and said, hey, I was in that band and those other wannabe rock stars were like, oh my God, I love you. And then. Yeah, no one. They wanted to believe it was around him. And even when they confronted him and he said, no, I'm in the CIA.

They're like, oh, that checks out. I want to keep playing these shows of this guy. Yeah, you believe what you want to believe. Yeah. And he wanted to, he wanted to be something more in his life. But yeah, the moral there for him only going to jail for three more years. Yeah. That's not good, is it.

I mean, that's like, obviously America is like the land of the grift where you can just sort of be whoever you want to be. But, and the prison system is broken. If they can just let a child murderer just. just do three years after 25 years of being fugitive. But there's something crazy going on there. But whoever wants to make a movie about it, I'd love a nice poignant scene at the end that wraps it all together

because I don't have one. But maybe the scene is like Kinkle starts his own band or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Kinkle and Bender start a band together. Yeah, Kinkle and Vanda start a do-what band. Or to the funeral. of Ed, Elmer, and the movie ends, the credits start rolling, but then they freeze, the coffin

opens, and Elma's eyes open, and he said, still CIA, CIA, and then he winks at the camera. He's fake to yourself again. And he misspoke CIA quite a few times as well, that was part of it. And they left that in. They only had enough film for one take. still see CIA CIA

CIA CIA and then it says like Elma Edward Sully will return Yeah Yeah

Summer 2025 Yeah Future adventures of this murderer Which was all for CIA Okay

Yeah It's all CIA It's all CIA What a tale That's amazing I've never heard of that

No That's amazing Such a fun story It's a crazy one Yeah It's also weird that there's not much about it out there.

There's like two long read articles on very obscure true crime blogs. No mainstream, no one, like there's no big mainstream New Yorker or Vulture or Vulture or anything about it. There's no podcasts about it. To me, it's like, it's absolutely fascinating that this, these two worlds combined, this bizarre 50s cover band and then like a notorious child murderer. It's like insane. There should be more about it.

There should be a movie. Maybe they just can't think of the ending either. That's the thing holding him up. I think you could almost end it with the cop walking up and being like, caught anything. And then just him turning around and seeing, you know, the full force of the law behind him. You could just go to credits from that. Yeah.

And I finally got him, you know? And then blooper reel. Yes. Is that too much to ask? I love bloopers. and I miss them. Blooper reels need to come back. It feels like the 90s and early 2000s,

every movie had a blooper reel. Yeah, so good. So good. I was watching there's something about Mary recently, and that whole credit sequence is the entire cast and crew lip syncing to build me up buttercup by the foundation. Yeah, great. That's how movie should end.

Okay. Even if it's a serious movie, just the whole cast and crew We're just singing and dancing to a silly song. Yeah, anyone but anyone but you ends with the whole, the whole crew, or the cast and crew singing Natasha Beddingfield, so that's good. We work, because we do a show about Brennan Frazier, movies of Brendan Fraser, and we watched a cartoon of his, and it ended with Gangdom style.

Yeah, like Cy the... Yeah. In Korean rapper cartoon came out, started to gangstores. and then the whole cast also animated joined in. Yeah, yeah. And there was, we assumed it was must have been, oh, that must have been at the height, but it was a few years after that song was it. But there was another Brendan Fraser movie, Ferry Vengeance that ended with the cast all singing.

Do you remember that, all singing a song? And it looked like that they'd spent more money on the post-credit role than the rest of the whole movie. Oh, no, that's not good. What was the song? It was bad to. Just bring back bloopers. You don't have to put any extra money into that.

They just happen. Yeah, true. Even like Pixar sometimes animate fake bloopers. So funny. That's how good bloopers are. Toy Story 2. Sorry, I've looked it up. It was them all singing insane in the membrane.

That's right. Yeah, that's a... Cypress Hill. Yeah, and this movie came out in 2010. Oh, my God. That is crazy. Yeah, fuck. Well, maybe in this movie, let's just end it.

exactly that way, like a bunch of characters come out. They all sing insane in the membrane. Yeah. Some of them are animated. And I forgot that it's a lot of the, it's, fairy vendors, there's a lot of animal characters in it. So it's like owls and stuff singing along as well. Yeah, that's real cool.

It's real good stuff. Highly recommend that film. We loved it. And I highly recommend the film, The Rock and Roll Murderer, which we are currently workshoping and pitching,

working on a pitch to send around. If any production companies are listening and want to get in touch want to partner up on this. Is that what you want us to call this episode?

What do you want us to call it? Insane in the membrane. If you could call it that, that would be good. Yeah. Or just furry vengeance. Yeah, and that fits actually.

A movie title I've never heard. I can't believe I've never heard of this movie. It's him and is it Brooke Shields in that one? Yeah. Is that your place his wife in the movie? Yeah.

Oh my God. I think it's like her comeback to the big screen. Yeah, it was her comeback and it didn't go well. And it's Brennan Fraser is like a, is he a property developer or something? Yeah. And he has a feud with animals. Oh my God. I've got to watch this.

Yeah, do yourself a favor. That's an absolute trait. That was great, Cam. Love that story. Oh, man. You killed it. That was such a great story. Thank you so much.

Thanks for having me on. That was so much fun. Yeah, I've been wanting to do something with that story for ages. I just love it. And like, you know, it's so crazy. So I was happy I got the opportunity to do it here. And if people want to see you live, where's your tour going? I know you've already done a few shows, but what are the upcoming cities?

Yeah, I've got Canberra coming up. Then I'll be in Melbourne for the entire festival. I'll be blowing out those Hanukkah candles every week with you guys. Can't wait. Yeah, I've got Brisbane, Sydney and Newcastle left after that as well. And it's a fun show. I've got a big crazy story that's at the intersection of music and crime in mine as well. There's no child murdering, but there is some wild stuff.

And I got a lot of songs. Yeah, it's a good time. I'd love you guys to come along. Well, I can't wait to see this whole new form of performance that you've invented. Yeah, groundbreaking stuff. Yeah, wild stuff. I hope it takes off in like the 1930s or something like that. It's so funny that you're like, I think I've really made something here.

And your wife's like, you made musicals? Yeah, you made musical. You've written a musical. Like, let's call it what it is. And for people that are in Australia and or I can't get to one of the live shows, you've put out a single recently with a full video clip and everything for your track Boys Night. I love it. Yeah, I have Ben, Ben Lee, Australian singer-songwriter, has been, he's releasing a couple of my

comedy songs as singles. Boys Night is the first one. I've got a music video for it, currently making a music video for a second song, which is a dick joke, basically, for three minutes. But it's a fun song. That'll come out soon. So, yeah, please check them out. It's very fun.

It's goofy fun. Yeah, it's been in my head for about three weeks. So catchy. It's a both-like, baby. Maybe do a do-wop cover of it or something. Okay, we could get a four-part harmony going. Yeah, maybe a 12-part. None of us can sing, but we'll try.

It's all one part and they all suck. It's a one-part harmony. You guys are doing live shows as well, right? Yes, thank you so much for asking. We're doing three Sunday afternoons during the Melbourne Comedy Festival. Please come on down to Basement Comedy Club 3.30 p.m. going to be a lot of fun. Hell yeah.

It's going to be a blast. Well, Cam, you absolutely killed it once again. Four from four. Great reports. We absolutely love having you on and I hope to have you on again soon. But until next time, I guess we'll say thank you and we'll let you go at this point. Yeah. Thanks so much, guys.

Thanks for having me. And good luck recording the additional Patreon material that you are about to record just with you guys. It's everyone's favorite section of the show. Yeah. Now, Cam, do go away. Oh, shit. A bit of fun. Bit of fun.

Bit of fun. All right, it's time for everyone's favorite section of the show now that Cam James is fracked off. And it's called The Bit of the Show. It doesn't really have a name, to be honest. This is a bit of the show where we thank our great supporters. Yeah, the bit of the show. Love the bit of the show. And it's everyone's favorite bit of the show because it's where we get to have a bit of fun,

but also show our thanks and our gratitude to our great supporters. We do it in numerous ways. is if you go to patreon.com slash do go on pod, you can sign up on a bunch of different levels. One of the levels, which get three bonus episodes, we're going to start doing ad-free feed. Is that right, Dave?

Am I explaining that right? Well, basically, if you subscribe on Patreon, your supporters on Patreon, you're absolutely correct. When the episode goes out on our podcast channel, we'll also put it out on our Patreon feed, ad-free. Ad-free.

I mean, if you don't mind the ad, still listen to the ad full app, because we get money for those. Yeah, full disclosure. Come in real close for a second. Just come in real close. And if you're one of our sponsors, just shut the fuck up for two seconds.

Just like, take your headphones on for a second. You can skip the ads. You can just skip through them. If you don't mind, just pressing that little 15 second or 30 second button, depending on what app you use, to skip a head a little bit, continue to do that because we get paid.

And that's how we keep roofs over our dog's heads. Okay. I think I'm going to have to, that bit will have to get edited. Redact it? Yeah, redact it. Just redact bits of it. Age, if you can just bleak it.

whatever just said, because I wasn't listening. I took my headphones off. She's half a minute to take my headphones off. Yeah, you can put your headphones back on now, Dave. What I would say is, oh, I'm listening. Whenever you hear an ad from one of our sponsors, go out and purchase their product.

Support that, the people that support. Use the discount code provided, etc. That's what I would say. But yeah, there are going to be ad-free episodes. Yeah, if the ads drive you absolutely up the wall. And that, you can do that. That does happen to some people. Yep.

But yeah, there's a bunch of other things. Yeah, on that same. topics. Exactly. And on that same level, the ad-free level is also the bonus episode level. So we put out three episodes every single month. It's pretty good value then, if you think about it. And it's going to be four per month without even any cost difference.

That's right. We're soon to record our... We are a little too generous, I think. Well, it feels like an old school, oh, Ken Bruce has gone mad kind of situation. We're in control of this thing. You know, like, we're like a carpet clearance warehouse. If it's on the floor, it's out the door. $50 off.

$60 off, even $70 off. You're kidding me. $70 off? If you were starting the price is way high than they are, then we have done that. So if we're being too generous, we'll cancel our upcoming recording of season two of our Dungeons and Dragons Doogon crossover podcast.

Oh, let us know if you think we're being too generous. We'll cancel that. But otherwise, we'll be putting out that in the feed. So you basically get a bonus episode most weeks coming up soon. Man, that's exciting. In the month of Feb, yeah, every week. Oh, hell yeah, Feb. Well, you'll have to wait until next phb.

But still, it's going to be a great month next February. October, you get, you know, there's, what, four days at the end? Three? You get ripped off in October. I'm sorry about that. But it's already blockbuster to-bo, so we're putting out a lot of good stuff. I'm going to get defensive. Hey, we're giving, I'm saying we're giving you an extra episode and you're giving me this shit.

Having a one-way argument. Yeah, it was an angry monkey. Yeah, and that's how I felt about the abuse you were getting. Yeah, I thought of the. The generosity. I thought it was not on. We've had a coffee break. They can tell.

I had an apple black current. And he is bouncing on the loss. That vitamin C hit. It's literally like going, it's like a little family going out for lunch. Mum and dad get a coffee. Our little boy gets a juice. If a milkshake had been available, I would have. I know, but I know.

In the past, I would have, I would have, I was embarrassed by getting milkshack. Like, now I'm like, I do not give a shit out. Live your life. That's what Middle Age is all about. Exactly. Letting go of standards. That's right. And shame.

Exactly. I just do it now. So hopefully everyone's enjoying this section of the show where we thank our supporters. The first thing we do. We thank you with giving them ad free content for God's sake. We just got to tell people about it. Sorry, sorry. He's on his juice, right?

Mine on, pinging. What's in this juice? Why my hands shaking? I'm scared. I'm frightened. So the first thing we do is for people on the Sydney-Shineberg level, they get to do something that's called the fact-quota question. And actually has a jingle go, someone like this.

Fact-quodal question. D-Dee! Always remembers the ding. Oh, she always remembers the thing. Oh, it's a thing. And the way this one works is, if you're on the Sydney-Shineberg level, we get to give us a fact-quot or a question. or brag or suggestion or really whatever you like

and I read four of them out each week and people also get to give themselves a title I should say I don't read them out till I read them out and that is just to forgive me for any flubs or anything that's a bit effed up that they say. A bit on the nose. Yeah. So and Dave doesn't mean on the noses in spot on.

He means on the noses it stinks. Yeah, stinky. It's a confusing saying that, isn't it? It means both actually. accurate and... And stinky. F-T-Eft. Yeah.

Sorry for my potty man today. Oh, my God. So the first one this week comes from Rachel Johnson, aka the last coconut that was available. Now sometimes... Still thinking about Rachel Johnson was once ham sandwich. That's funny. That's a good bit when just the memory of the bit is given in. The last coconut, I mean, that could be...

This is so good. The last coconut available. Okay, Rachel Johnson has given us a joke. Yeah, love a joke. Emma, please. Because we're filming these now, I'm like these joke things. You're saying blow up. They go viral.

So I'm going to read the joke to you and you have to not try to laugh. Is that the thing that goes big? And the best thing to do, I think, with any kind of social media is to try really hard to go viral and to like copy what other people are doing. This worked a year ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think authenticity is out. Hashtag best of 2022. All right.

Here's the joke. Hashtag dash hand. All of that, none of that lead up will go in. Okay. Because we're being authentic from now. Are we trying not to laugh? Well, no, you got, I think the trick is trying not to laugh, but laughing. Got it.

Okay? Yeah, I got it. I'm already laughing. Hey, drama degree. I want to see that in action. Let's go. All right. So Rachel Johnson has given us a joke and it goes like this.

Dave. Dave. I'm trying. You've got to hear the joke before you decide if it's funny or not, okay? What do you call a man with custard in one ear and jelly in the other? I don't know, Matt. What do you call a man with custard in one ear and jelly in the other? A trifle deaf.

Because it trifles are dessert made with custard and jelly. Yeah. I don't think Jess got it, Dave. I love a trifle. Are we going to do we do it? Are we going viral? I think that could go big. Are we viral right now?

I've just seen a number thing ticking over. Yeah, yeah. And it is going quick. Thank you so much, Rachel. Love a joke. A joke's always welcome. Yeah. Anything's welcome in the fact quota question.

It can be anything you want it to be. I thought that was fantastic. That was great. Love it. Thank you, Rachel. A trifle death. Because a trifle also means a little bit. A little bit, right?

Yeah, I'm a little deaf. I'm a trifle deaf. That's fun. That is fun. All right. Next one comes from Patrick J. Ealy. Oh.

And P.J.E. A.k.a. Chief Executive Detective Inspector of Effectively Detecting Defective Detectors. Oh, my God. See, sometimes they try to stump him and he just, he barrels through you to flip. And then other times he says, like, he can't say his own name. It doesn't make any sense. It's very true.

You would think you could stump him easily with a tongue crystal, and he just, no problem through that. And then he can't say, like, Matthew. Like, he just. Matthew. It's amazing. Matthew is a... I did it. That's a tricky name.

That's why I shot her to Matt all those years ago. Maybe I can lengthen it out once again. I wouldn't. I don't think you can... Something about like his dick's too old to work now. It doesn't lengthen anymore. Something like that. Oh, that's pretty good.

There's a joke in there. That's a good concept. Rachel Johnson, if you could put those pizzas together and send that back in joke form, that would be fantastic. Do you think they put those pizzas together? Oh my God. Did it? He did. See, that's what I mean.

You get those pieces together. You get a margarita, but with mushrooms. You get a half and a half, and that's a dollar extra for some reason. All right. Patrick's question is, hey, mates, is there anything that people say to you all the time that you get really sick of hearing? I get sick of hearing is so talented, beautiful. I'm intimidated by your eyes.

Yeah, I just. I'm like, I know, but I'm human. Yes. Dave's normally like staring in through their words. window when they say that. Dimmidate, boy, your eyes. That's all I can say of you. And it's intimidating.

It's intimidating. As always, I request the question ask us to give a question answer. Great. And Patrick's done that saying, I'm really tall, 6-8 or 202 centimetres. 6-8. Is that what you? Sorry. I bet it is the question, how tall are you?

Yeah. Or, uh, yeah. What's the weather like up there? Do you play basketball? Yeah, all right. Let's see. They're three of the big ones. Or I got a tall friend, and one time he was at a train station.

This is probably one of the three stories I tell on this podcast. But he was at a train station after the footy, and, you know, was packed out and crowded. And someone, he's on, you know, a platform at Southern Cross Station. And a woman is standing next to him on the phone, going, yeah, I'm over here. I'm waving. I'm next to the freakishly tall man. Adding freakishly doesn't. Right an ear shot.

Tall man in a blue jumper. He's very tall, you'll see him. He's so tall. He's freakishly tall. His ears are so far away. He'll never hear this. Don't worry. I'm standing next to the freak.

No, not that freak. The tall freak. Anyway, not the smelly freak. Can you start waving? Patrick says, Almost without fail, every day of my life, a complete stranger will point out to me

as if it's brand new information. It got old about 15 years ago, so you can imagine my fear. feelings about it now. This is that he's tall. You don't get shorter. You do a bit, but not enough. Today it happened three times. Jesus. Anyway, I try to be friendly about it, but as soon as I look away, my eyes roll so hard, I might as well be playing marbles. That's good. This is a joke? Joke section? No. I think this is the grop section.

I hope you're all staying safe and well. I can only assume Dave is especially safe and well since I haven't heard anything to the country. Yeah, Dave's fine. I'm alive. I'm still fine. Love your lots and thanks always for what you do. Hey, Patrick, thanks to you. See?

It's unbelievable. Thanks you. Thanks you. Patrick, thanks to you. Patrick thanks us. Patrick thanks to you, as in Dave and Jess. Or the other listeners. Who is Patrick thanking?

Who is he thanking? He said thank you. I feel for Patrick and I just want to apologize in behalf of all people that you get asked that so often because that must be so fucking tedious. I have a cousin who's probably, I think, a very similar height to you,

and yeah, he gets it a lot, and it's very annoying. I'm very average in everything, so I don't get commented. I'm invisible, actually. You'd welcome questions. I'd welcome just being acknowledged. Quite genuinely, I get cut off a lot, walking, driving, everything.

People will just walk into me all the time. But you feel invisible even when driving. Yeah, it happens when driving, and that's concerned. That's incredible. concerning. But walking along, I just, I'm invisible. So there's that. I think that, okay. You do drive an invisible car, though. And that's my problem. You have it in Wonder Woman's car. And what? They can't just let me in.

Hello. Invisible are you? Oh, sorry. Don't answer that. My bad. To answer your question, what am I sick of people? What is the question? What are you? Is it asking or saying? Yeah, asking or saying. Anything that people say to you all the time that you get really sick of hearing. I get a bit sick of people commenting on my dog's name. Oh, okay. But that's my own fault because I named him a dumb name. But I get a lot of where's Maverick?

Because his name is goose. People think it's a top gun thing. Jesus. Or it's old people love to go, that's a, geez, doesn't look much like a goose. I wear his wings, stuff like that. Oh, that's funny. And I go, that laugh, you know. And then I roll my eyes as I walk away.

I can have a good day. Shut up. Shut up. I'd complain to you too about things. Do I ever complain about some of this? You? Matthew? You get people say, how do you get a beard like that or something like that?

Oh, yeah. You kind of like, well, just I just let it grow. I don't remember being annoyed by that. But yeah, that's people probably do ask that. Yeah Hey People think you drink more than you do Oh yeah that's true

I think I'm a drunk Yeah But I mean again I'll probably put that You're only a binge drunk It's my problem is that I It's the only time I think to post anything on social media Yeah Dave you're sick of people

Assuming you're a virgin Correctly Yeah I'd hate being reminded I think it's not that annoying But the thing that people frequently say like if I'm, you know, eating a pie or something and they go, geez, you're lucky to be so thin. Yeah.

That kind of thing. Just commenting on, like, you know, eating crap food and still being quite thin. That's strange, isn't it? It's strange to comment on... But I don't really care that much, but that's just something. That's just a common comment to me. Yeah, but don't comment on anything anybody's eating. It's crazy, isn't it?

Yeah. I think sometimes people just think they need to say something. You don't. You've got to fill the air until you die. Just shut up. How about that? That's my advice. Shut up.

Just the advice. Yeah. Stop ignoring. Stop ignoring me. And shut up. And shut up. Thank you. That's all.

Jesus. And Dave wants you to... Leave him alone. Leave him alone just in general. Let the boy eat his pie. Yeah. He's furious. Or buy me a second pie.

Yeah. That would be good. Now I'll show you how lucky I am. I'm going to eat another pie. If their comment was, would you like another one? and I would say yes, please. That's the perfect exchange. Beautiful.

Sorry we didn't have any. I had a great answer. Fuck you. Sorry, we had dog shit answers for that one. I had a fantastic answer. Sorry. Just, I'm invisible again. Dave.

Your answer was fine. But yeah, sorry, I generally are answers to dog shit. And we also apologize for people commenting on your heart. That's very annoying. Yeah. We feel for you. You big old freak. It definitely is them just being like,

oh, I need to say something, but you don't always. You can say how's it going? A tall person knows they're tall, you know? Yeah. Leave him alone. Next one comes from Macalla McCray, aka Clarence. On a recent, I record an episode in Tazzy of Who Knew it with Anthony Morgan, my comedy hero.

Yeah, that's awesome. And I told him, some reason Clary came up, and I told on the pod the story of how my uncle and his mates use Clarence's shorthand for the C-Bomb. They started as Clarence Hunt, became Clarence and Clary. And he goes, oh, you've told me that before. I'm like, we've met like four times. I said, I've only got three stories. I think one of them is my friend Dan is really tall.

You segue into the freak on the platform story? Oh, was it Dan? Yeah, yeah. He is tall. Now I get it. He's a freak. Yes, yeah. Oh, that freak.

Yes, yes, yes. No, now that story makes even more sense because it's Dan the tall freak. Anyway, Michaela, okay, Clarence. All right. Mates, have you, especially you, Matt, listen to Tizm's new EP, the C word from mid-December last year. I've just got my bum into gear and had a listen and I'm bloody loving it. Do yourselves a favour.

And if you haven't already, get this into your ear holes and I'd love to hear your thoughts. Ouru. Oh, it's like a question slash suggestion, I guess, or like a recommendation. It's a great EP. It's only four tracks, and one of them is like the extended version of one of the other tracks. Oh. And yeah, a lot of C-bombs, because the album's called The C-word. Yeah, that makes sense, I guess.

But I have listened to it a lot, and also they played it. I saw him in Taz. That's what I was in Tazzy for. And they played the C-word, one of the tracks off that EP. And they played a couple of other new songs, I believe, that are as yet unreleased. Cool. I didn't know that they had put out new music. That's a great. Oh man. I think probably my favorite song from last year was a, came out as a single before that EP called I've Gone Hill song.

And it is so good. Like it's so catchy. The guitar riff is like it's just a real earworm, but it's awesome. And the C word's another super catchy earworm as well. A bit of Italian, I think in there. Cut, so cut, so cut, so. It's clever stuff. Beautiful stuff. I understand all the references, of course, as always, with autism songs. I get it. Yeah, I understand it.

Don't need any explanation. Don't ask me any follow-up questions, but I get it. I get it. I did have to go to Google Translate and it's funny stuff. But thank you for that question. And Tip Michaela, yeah, that is awesome. I haven't heard it, but I will listen. The last track on it, the extended one, it's an epic.

It's got this big build. There's like a, like a, a. Sacks solo. Awesome. It's a lot of fun. And it's all, it's sort of all about that, that song that is, so the C-words, the one with the time, but the other ones, get ready to bleep this, AJ, KV versus Kins.

And it's all about, you know, the modern online discourse, I suppose. You might say it slower. Oh. So it's, because surely he would have had to beep out the verses there as well. Oh, K-K-Z. V-K-K-K-T. There it is. And it's about, you know, like, both sides of the arguments.

online, it's like, who you're going to, whose side do you want to be on when it's kits v kits. I've forgotten what it's called. Is it kits v kins? Kats v. Ah, sorry. Sounds good. I'll look it up.

Yeah. I'm just typing it into Spotify now. Kuh. V. Well, how do I type beep into Spotify? I don't know what to do. Dave's, we put special headphones on Dave, that live beep because we don't want our precious boy. I'm trying to type it in.

It's getting corrupted. It says you are not old enough to look. listen to this music. We should add that to the list of topics that have ended up, um, more news about the topic after we did them because TISM were finished when we did that episode. That were done forever. How many years ago was that? You did the TISM report? I must have been, I reckon it was three or four years ago probably. Do you reckon? Oh, I have no idea. I would say maybe longer. Yeah, maybe. I honestly have no idea. But yeah, they, they broke up in 2004. Yeah, right. Episode 176, March 2019.

Yeah, four, five, what's that, five years ago? Yeah, almost exactly. A couple days ago at the time of recording, five years ago. That's crazy. About four and a half years after that, they reformed and doing live shows again. Yeah, that's great. Awesome. I'm glad you got to see him over the weekend.

Oh, man, that was so good. Thank you, Michaela. Always happy to talk about tism, would you believe it? Then the final one this week comes from Nathan Damon, aka group dad. I wasn't sleeping. I was just resting my eyelids. My dad says I was just checking my eyelids for gaps. I haven't heard it and I like it.

I feel like Nathan Damon is cosplaying as your dad in these, in his, and Nathan's doing a pretty bloody good job, to be honest. I met Nathan and he, like, I reckon he'd get on pretty well with you, old man. Squire up, squire. I don't know if that's a compliment to Nathan. I mean this is like. Yeah. All right, squire.

Good day to you, Nathan. Because I met him and he said that he saves up episodes to listen. on his long journeys. He drives that huge truck. The road train. Yeah, but even bigger than normal road trains. It had like an insane number of wheels. It's not legal on...

Not legal on road legal. Yeah. Street legal. Crazy. Anyway, he writes, oh, it's a shout out. Hi, gang. Today I'd like to give a shout out to Ash Yates, who is a fellow Patreon here in the greatest state on earth, Western Australia.

Great state. I got to chatting to Ash when I realized. that she was friends with someone I used to work with. It's such a small world. During our chat, Ash mentioned that she hoped that you guys would bring the pod back to Perth soon. I tend to agree with her. What do we do wrong?

Why don't you like us? Well, at least Matt likes us. Anyway, a big hello to Ash, and as always, I love your work. Although, on my most recent time, I did cancel at the last minute. Well, that was COVID-related and not your fault, and I won't hear anything otherwise. But we'd love to come back. I mean, we talk about all the time. Perth, Adelaide, Hobart.

We talk about all these things all the time. Canberra, Brisbane, Sydney. New Zealand. Yeah, definitely. And it's the kind of thing that, you know, when all of us have the gap in our schedules, we'll get it happening. And Perth is the, it's the extended flight, which means it costs more. So we have to do a bit more planning. Yeah, it's just a bit more.

Yeah, we have to get those flights booked in advance. Yeah, but we have booked the flights in advance. And otherwise, you know, we're doing the one. where we're leaving at midnight there and because of the time difference landing at home at 8 a.m. I won't do it. I did it once and I hated it.

But the good thing is that we'd be losing money on the trip. That is good. That is the good news. But what a great time we had there. The one time we went. Oh, it was so good. Ice cream.

Shut your lid, you toilet. We just yelled the whole way home. Yep, I heard you coming. Probably annoyed half of Northbridge. I was already home and I heard that coming. I said, oh, here they are. Sorry. No.

I wasn't asleep. Sorry, Jess. I was up. I was doing cool shit. But I love Perth. And, yeah, there's great venues there that we could go to. I did The Who Knewit over there in Oasis Comedy Club. There's also the comics. Where do we go last month?

The lounge. Yeah. Comedy lounge and, yeah, a couple of it. So, yes, it's definitely. The Brisbane Hotel. Definitely keep bringing it up. But we, it is in the back of our minds as well. We talk about it all the time.

We don't hate you. No, we love you. We love you. Sorry to, I don't know, say that too soon. Yeah, we're trying to play it cool, but it's hard because you're so fucking smoking all the best state in the world. Oh, do, you're so fucking cool. How dare you. Thank you so much.

Nathan, Michaela, Patrick and Rachel. The next thing we like to do is shout out to a few of our other great supporters. Yeah, that's right. This is only just beginning the section, which feels like it's going to be a long one tonight. But, yeah, Jess, you know, we come up with a game. We shout out nine more people now. What do you reckon today? Well, Cam said the name for this episode would be.

their rock and roll murderer, right? Yeah. So what if we gave them some kind of cool title like that? Maybe not murderer. Yeah, yeah. But maybe a genre of music. That's fun. So genre first and then like a something.

Yeah. I like that. A noun. All right. Maybe I can kick us off then with the first three. I'd love to thank from Fishers in the great state of Indiana in the United States. It's Charity Rose Elkins. Charity Rose Elkins.

This is going to be whatever we do here. it's going to be worse than... Charity Rose Elkins. Yeah. What about the hip-hop? I was going to say hip-hop. What? Can you believe it?

Oh my God. And there's so many genres. Okay. The hip-hop frog. Hip-hop frog. Okay. I said hip-hop. A hip-a-hip.

I think I'm getting closer understanding what this entails. I said a hip, a hub, a rib, a ribet. The frog. I'm thinking, so charity, what a beautiful name, hip-hop frog feels like a step back. Huge downgrade, yeah. Sorry. They're just warming up. Give them a chance.

Okay, the next one. We'll circle back around. I'd love to thank from New York in Great Britain. That's where the, that's the Viking country, isn't it? Remember we met those handsome Vikings? But here it's posh. You wouldn't stop telling them how handsome they were. Whoa, what do you do when you meet a handsome person?

You keep, oh no. You keep telling them how handsome they are. Yeah, they're sick of it. And actually, yeah, no, I want to change my answer from before. I'm sick of people stopping me in the street and being like, you are stunning. You're a handsome barking. And I say, thank you, but I'm just trying to do my groceries. Please, I'm on the phone.

And when you say doing your groceries, you're talking like a zucchini or something. All right. So the next one. The Jesus Christ reaction made me feel really bad. That's when, you know, you've gone too far. Oh, okay. There's a line. Jesus.

Jesus Christ. Pull your fucking head in. I'm just doing my groceries. It just was... That's a normal thing that people say. Yeah, I've never heard it. Never heard it before. Or not in this context.

I'm doing the shopping, by which I mean, a carrot. I thought I toned it down by switching from cucumber zucchini, but... A classier type of... It's a little soft out of that. It's not what you want. Soft is not good They're just mushes Did we

Have I even got to the end From York in Great Britain What he's like William Hamilton What about the jazz Grosser Oh yeah

That's good I like the innuendo The jazz grosser That's that's a drug dealer That's a weed dealer Yeah that's right Jazz You know like jazz cigarettes

And a grocer Or like the Honda Jazz Which is a drug dealer's car. Yeah. Jazz isn't funny. Jazz is just like, it's a music. Wow.

But it has become somehow a euphemism for marijuana. What's that interesting? Marijuana. Very interesting. But he can't say Hanukkah. Marihana. Yeah, if anyone knows how to say it, let me know. I did look it up in our coffee break and the tutorial said it like I say it.

So I'm confused. Anyway, from Ashland. Oh my God, in God's country itself, Ohio. Please thank, oh my God, what a name. Brandon Clinker. Oh, cheers. Oh, yeah, okay. What about the grimy, the grimy cheers.

The grime cheers. The grime cheers. No, that's no good. But grime is definitely a good starting. Okay, great. Grime, the grime. What's the second? I forgot what you said, the second part.

have to be. Just like a noun. Oh, okay. Yeah, Cheers is not a noun. So I missed it by a quality. What about like the Grime Skateboard? Oh, the Grime Skateboarder. Skateboarder.

Grime Skateboarder. Okay, great. Because the first one was murderer. You know, so I'm just... It's like their title type thing. Okay. The Grime skateboarder. Okay, yep.

I think we got it. That's pretty good. I did say we're going to start off slow. Grimes skateboard's better. Grimes skateboard's better. All right, yeah, no, we'll get this. We'll get this. I mean, again, Brandon Clinker is,

that's, in my head, I was going. cheers for clinker like cheering the glasses. Yeah. That's where the clinker, but I forgot that that is not. Oh, this has been a tougher one. All right. Shall I thank some people? I think we go back from the top.

Let's start again. But I'm going to thank some people. Okay. I would like to thank from. I would love to thank, okay? Shoes on the other foot now, isn't it? Well, no. You feel like a big man over there?

Jesus, cross. That's what happens. Don't worry, Jess, we've got him on the rope's name. He's questioning everything. It's only funny when you do it, mate. When everybody else does it, it's just a normal human thing. Yeah, when someone else is off. You're just kicking someone while they're down.

When it's you, you deserve every fucking shred of it. Yeah. Oh, maybe he's down. What can we find a deeper hole to push him in? Sorry, Jess. Thank you, David. You absolute angel of podcasting? I would laugh to thank some people.

Yeah. I'd like to thank from Ilkeston or Ilkeston in Great Britain, Dan May. Dan May. Dan May. Okay, what about the rockabilly? Oh. The bargain hunter. Oh!

Now we're talking. That's good. That is good. They call me the rockabilly bargain hunter. That rules. Goes around to vintage fairs, finds all sorts of cool stuff. That's great. Flips it.

Makes a lot of money on it. Everyone's like, she's got such a good eye for it. Damn my rockabilly bargain hunter. Oh, that felt good in my ears. A massage a part of my brain that had been massaged. I would also like to thank from Squamish. Oh, my God.

Squamish. Squamish. I'm definitely saying that wrong, but it does ring a bell. I would like to thank Gouche McNats. I mean, it was written there in front of you, Dave, but it's still really got you. Oh, that's funny. I've just never heard that word out loud before. Gouch McNutt.

I've heard it, seen that written down so many times. Gooch McNutt, you know, sometimes you see a word, but you just never never heard that way. Gooch McNuts from Squamish. That's amazing. Gooch McNuts. Oh, genre of music. The, uh, the, uh, electro punk. Yes.

Um, Electropunk conductor. Oh, that's good. Yeah. So it's got a. bit of an extra thing with electricity conduction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Train conductor. That's smart.

That's, holy shit. Gouche McNuts. I mean, I would have said, how can you top Gouche McNats? But we did. We just did it. We just did it. Oh, and by the way, just for the English people, I just saw, how did you say this one? You know how English?

English words are always never what they look like. It'll be like, Ikelston. Ilkeston. Ilkeston. Ilkeston. You, actually, that's pretty close. I think I said like Ilksten, Ilkeston, Ilkeston. Ilkeston.

All right. So, if you were midway, through a tweet. Backspace, backspace, backspace, backspace, my friend. And never come for me again. Never come for the queen. And next I would like to thank from... Never come for the queen.

Don't chop that out of context. Not good life advice. Come for the queen if she wants you to. You know what? But only if she's asked. Only if she's asked. We can't stress that enough. Can't stress that enough.

Always come for the queen if requested. Yeah, when instructed. Next, I would like to thank from Winter Park in Florida. I was talking about the Queen of England as well there. My queen. From Winter Park in Florida. I would love to thank Lauren Boy. Lauren Boy, the new wave.

Oh, hair. Hair. Dresser. Ooh, okay. I like that when we sit each other about that. It's a new wave hairdresser. A new wave hairdresser. Like that.

Can I only imagine what Lauren's hair is. It would be pretty cutting edge. Pretty cutting edge. New wave. Yeah. Am I thinking, am I remembering this right? Something like a cheap brand of hair gel was called New Wave. Possibly, yeah.

That does ring a back. Yeah, like with a purple or red lid and clear. Purple, pinky lid and it's clear and it's really goopy. Yeah. Super goopy. Super greasy. New Wave hair gel. Yeah, something like that, I reckon.

Yeah, I can see the logo even. Maybe it was like a, like a, was it someone's face in profile and then like a few lines for their, representing their hair? I think that was. Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a, that's a brand, but that might have been, that product might have been called New Wave. I don't think New Wave was the brand. Right.

Oh, okay. Anyway. Vague memory. It does, yeah, it's a vague. Very vague memory. Dave, do you want to thank some people as well? I'd love to, but I'm not looking up New Wave here, Jill. All right, let's stop this madness.

No, no, no, no, you take your time. You'll let us know when you're ready. I'd like to thank. I'm ready. From Seven Hills, New South Wales, Leia or Leia XX. Oh, what about some. Death metal. Oh, yeah.

Death metal princess. I like it. How good's that? Death metal princess X, X. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Thank you so much. And I would like to thank from Cranebrook. Also in New South Wales, it's Dan Parker.

The folk. Oh, yeah. Juggler. The folk juggler. That does sound like a murderer. Somehow. None of the words point directly to be to murder, but it sounds like a murder. They call me the folk juggler.

And I'm going for your juggler. I think you could almost say anything in that voice and it would be scary. I think you could do like wedding vows in that and I'd be like, oh, huh. Do you take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife? Oh my God, I hate that. It sounds like you're about to pronounce me man and not. It's the best line that has ever been written. Do you think when they wrote that, they just like high-fived, shut their laptops and left?

They would have just emailed it to all staff, check out what I've just written. Yeah, that is so good. We'll riff the rest of the script. Don't worry out. They built the movie around it. It's so good. I'd find out of think from Nottingham in Great Britain or Nottingham. It's Hattie Bacon.

Oh my God. The show tune Strangler. Oh, yeah. Love it. Hattie Bates. Is this our best ever batch of names? We started with Charity Rose and Finlayer. with Hattie bacon.

Yeah, and everything in the middle was good stuff. Yeah, we had clinker in there, Gooch McNutts, of course. Yeah. Really good stuff. Thank you so much to Hattie Dan. Leah, Lauren Gooch, Dan, Brandon, William and Charity. And the final thing we need to do is welcome a few people into the Triptitch Club. Now, this bit of the theory of the mind, people have been signed up on the shoutout level

or above for three straight years. They get welcomed right into the Triptage Club. I'm sending at the door. I've got my clipboard. I've got four names on the list this week. Just behind the bar. She's working on sometimes snacks, sometimes a cocktail, sometimes both. Dave's booked a band.

What have we got to serve tonight? Popper. I've just got some chips in salsa. Oh, great. Yeah, I didn't have time, so I just went to the supermarket. Well, that's honestly a relief. We haven't been able to eat in a while. Getting a little bit hungry.

Just want to check on the temperature spice-wise of the salsa, first of all? Spice-wise, it is too hot. Okay. It's spicy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like, it's weight. We're very white. Okay.

Yeah. But it's too hot. And what can I just, it's room temperature though? It is ice cold. Oh. Yeah. So it's very cold temperature-wise, but it, because I put it in the freezer. I might just have the chips by themselves.

Okay. They're fresh, though. I think that might be. Is that? Yeah, it was this. Oh. They're fresh, though? Yep.

Not too hot. They are quite spiced. Okay. I'm not entirely sure what you guys want from me, to be honest. edible, digestible. Can I ask you a quick question? I have a factual question.

Can I share it? Okay, so I saw this on a TikTok and I, I, we talked about it for ages last night as we went to sleep. Okay, so on one of your hands, doesn't matter which hand, each five fingers can dispense one beverage. What are the five beverages? Coffee? Yep. Water. Yep.

Great start. All right. orange juice. Okay. Beer. Yep. Does it have to be specific? Probably.

Like, it can probably only be one beer. Okay. One beer is better than no beer, isn't it? Yeah. But here's the thing, too. You can still go buy drinks. Oh, yeah, of course. Other drinks still exist.

These are just like what you have on tap ready to go at all times. Yeah, okay. Like, I think my go to, you know, like the Khadji Crush. Yep. Tropical pale. Great. But I don't know if that's, anyway. And then the last one, Scotch.

You've done very well. Okay. No, I just mean, like, decisive for you. Right. Normally, it's like, well, let me think about it and I'll be here for hours. And it's, so, so I'm impressed. And there's great answers. I'm saying, like, a really good scotch.

Yeah. I don't know what that would be, but just like... Something so good. Something so good, you've never even been able to have it. Yeah. You know, you've got it whenever you want it. Something beyond your wildest streets. And that, that one's worth quite a bit of cash.

I'm just like, you know, go to music festivals and people lining up at the bar. I'm just setting up my little stall of the bag on, you want a little pinky whiskey? Yep. Have a little nip. Straight in the mouth. Easy. Yeah. Better for the environment.

No cups. Exactly. No plastic. Dave. Okay. I'm going to go water one. Yep. Full cream milk two.

Okay. OJ. Yep. I probably also have a beer, some sort of pale beer in there. Number five, I've been thinking about this. Is this allowed? Hollandae sauce. Well, it's not a beverage.

Well, it is with the way I drink it. That's gross. Okay. I can't have that. How could you want? That much, hollandaise. Holidays on it. Holidays on it. Whatever you put down, I'm hollandaiseing it.

Can't even say it or so many times. I guess I could allow hollandaise if it's that important to you. If it wasn't, if that's not possible, I'd probably also go coffee, even though I don't drink it, but I could bring a lot of joy to other people like my wife and things who drink coffee every day. You want a coffee? Absolutely. There you go. But then would it get annoying with people asking me for coffees all the time.

Oh, yeah. I guess it'd be annoying with all of those. Yeah. Yeah, maybe you're smarter to. I just have awful drinks and go on a water. BIN water. But then you don't even get to benefit.

Because I was thinking like, what do I spend the most money on? What's going to save it? That's a good. Here's my initial list. I did end up having to change one of them. Okay. Just for like logic,

but this was just the fun answer. I would go water, coffee, like hot coffee, but also an iced coffee. I'd have an iced latte one and a hot coffee one. Oh, that's a good idea.

Because I, you know, I drink more hot coffee, but when you want an ice latte, nothing better. And they're usually more expensive. Then I would go like a soft drink, maybe just like a lemonade, like a little bit of fizz. And then the last one, margarita. Oh, that's good. I'm not thinking that I should sub beer out for a peanut collata. Yeah.

That would be more fun. Because even if you think about it too, you kind of go, if I went to a bar, I could just buy, because I could go vodka or something. I can't drink wine and stuff like that. So that's pointless. You just be quietly in the corner with a club. Last going. But if you think, like, I'd like a vodka, well, then you can just buy that.

But a margarita is always going to be more expensive, isn't it? So. And it would be the perfect mug for you. You'd work out the system. Exactly right. But one of those you had to sub out? Yeah, I ended up subbing out the ice coffee for like a meal replacement shake or a protein type thing.

Oh, my gosh. Just put Holland over. I didn't even think about it. Yeah, banana smoothie or something. Yeah. Just because I don't get enough protein, you know, you know. And I think you just let you let take your cold. put some ice.

No, it's not the same. I don't mind. I'm happy to drink a cold coffee. I think I want to just go with my first answer because it brought me joy. I want both coffees in there. Fuck it. But you make ice coffee by putting hot coffee on ice, don't you?

Yeah, and cold milk. Well, you can have one of my fingers. My index fingers ready to go. I don't want one of your fingers, mate. Not how you say it like that. I think, yeah. Oh, it's good bringing you a meaning to a finger of scotch. And when my dad said to me that time,

we're still talking about scotch. I said, Dad. Dad, do you understand? So we're sitting, we've just been, we'd had a pretty big day and we went out to a concert. We came back and we're just having a nightcap at his place. And I'm pouring the scotch. And I go, two or three fingers. And he's like, we're still talking about scotch.

I said, Dad, do you understand? Dad, just tell me what you just think you've seen. Yeah. Because if you were saying that to, like, you know, somebody you were flirting with, maybe that would be a bit cheeky. But to me? Yeah. Your son?

I thought it was very funny. Anyway, that's a great hypothetical. Feel free to ask your friends. Great hypothetical, I never heard that one. I told that story one night in Adelaide and the crowd were like, ugh. Yeah. Not one for the public consumption. So say it on the podcast, that's good.

But we know your dad. Yeah. I mean, I was just trying to do. one of those, you know that are not in that order sort of jokes. That's what she said, but not thinking of, not thinking of it through to the point of of the alternative would be pretty

fucked up. Anyway, we've got four people coming in today. I think in the Patreon group on Facebook, someone's got to remember to start up the chat what would your five fingers be. Yeah. Anyway, I've booked a band. Oh, booked a band. Who we got?

You never going to believe it. Cam came on this week. That's going to be a music topic. I was like, oh, that's Bit of a coincidence because I usually book a band and they're music, music act usually. And I was like, well, a band is music. Yeah, I thought that's as big as the coincidence will get. Yeah. And then he said, shah, nah, and that didn't tweak for me. But then he said, Johnny Casino and the gamblers, they're here tonight.

Oh, my God. Oh, my playing all their Greece mega hits. That's awesome. And maybe the Greece mega mix, I don't know. Perfect. Play it at every function. Yeah. So enjoy. Oh, that's very exciting.

All right, Dave, now you're on stage. Sure I'm seeing. You're hosting. You're going to hype up these four names or eight out. Just is going to hype you up because, you know, you're fragile. Don't worry, I've already got my hand on his bum. Okay, so first up. He likes it.

Yeah, yeah, it's comforting. It's good. Especially now that you know what her fingers can do. What? Are we a little squirt? What? Are we something talking about scotch? What?

I'm under what. I'm under what. Okay, come on. Let's welcome these. Let's get this done. They've been waiting here all night, these people. If you hear your name, please step forward from Arlington in Texas in the American States United

It's Joel Acklin Joel, you make me feel whole from Chenside West in Queensland Australia It's Caroline Clancy Caroline Clancy Two impressions in one

Is that enough? Very good Don't worry about it Is that outcast Does you say that? Awesome In person I should say you saying a word from the song

From No no no no stop Caroline I'm feeling fine Clancy I'm feeling fancy Yeah I guess. God, he's good. From Earlville in Illinois in the United States, it's John Mulligan.

John Mulligan, you make me feel young again. Yes. Do you want to take a mulligan on that one, mate? From, that means have another shot at it. A bit of fun. And from Montrose. Is that true? Yeah, so in golf, if you...

You have a mulligan. You can say, I'll take a mulligan on that one. Oh, fine, I will actually. John, I feel on to have you here tonight. Is that not a mainstream term? I never heard it, but it made so much sense that I couldn't believe it was real. Thank you. And finally from Montrose here in Victoria, it's Craig McQueen.

Craig, you are my Mick King. Thank you so much, Craig, John, Caroline and Joel. Please make yourselves at home. Hey, just wanted to say sorry about all this. Yeah, sorry about all this. We got a bit excited. We're still a bit excited. Dave's back and we can't stop talking.

And I won't. We had a coffee. Gabe, exactly. And Dave had a juice. And Dave had a juice. Obviously, that's a big deal. And we should. I shouldn't have said it, but yeah, just squirted these drinks out of her fingers.

I didn't have juice on one of mine, so don't ask him what his is. Oh, my God. What's that red juice you squirited out? Oh, my God. Not good, my friend. Jesus Christ. Hey, well, if you want to support us on Patreon, we're about to record a bonus episode. So who knows how loose that will be?

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