Do Go On - 438 - The Rock 'n' Roll Murderer

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

Friend of the show, Cameron James, joins us this week to tell us a WILD tale about Rock N Roll, returning from the dead, and of course.... murder. This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 15:17 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ See Cam's show at the Comedy Festival : MixtapeSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our merch: https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/ Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Find it wherever you get your podcasts. ACAST helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcasts everywhere. ACAST.com. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dev Warny and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Get a... boys! Hey. Sorry. I was trying something new. So good to be alive. That's something I've been thinking about and it's so good to have Dave back in now for two weeks in a row. That's right two in a row. I'm back baby. I am back. Well let's see if we can do three.

He's fine. This week we are joined by an esteemed guest, a returning friend of the podcast, Cameron James is also here. Woohoo! G'day, boys. Here you've heard the new catchphrase. I really like it. It's fun, isn't it? It's fun to say you stretch out, g'day, and then you hit boys real hard and fast at the

end. Yeah, boys is a real staccato at the end. Yes. There's a bit of music. Cam will get that. You guys won't understand that. Yeah, I get it. As a muse, oh, I get it. How's everyone doing?

Thanks for having me. Oh, man. I mean, we're delighted to have you back. Your reports are always so much fun. And I think I can speak for all of this when I say we're fine. Yeah. We could be better. Of course.

I'd agree with fine as a base level. Yeah. Yeah. Cam, I mean, it's down here in Melbourne. Yeah. I mean, I think it's down here in Melbourne. Yeah. I mean, I think it's down here in Melbourne. Yeah. I. We could be better. Of course. I'd agree with fine as a base level. Yeah.

Yeah. Cam, I mean it's down here in Melbourne. March, this is our Christmas time. We don't do Christmas like you do after it's in the team. You guys do it in March? We do it in, well we, we, but we call it, some of it different, we call it the Melbourne International Comedy Festival and it kicks up at the end of March.

So the start of March is sort of like what you would have as Christmas Eve. Sure. Are you and but you always come down. I can't believe you didn't realize this was our Christmas. That's all I think of it more like Hanukkah. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's not just one night. It's a it's a festival. It's a whole season.

We have big candles as well, don't we? Yeah, there's the big candles out the front of Melvin Town Hall. And we all the comedians gather out and blow them out one at a time at the end of every week. That's beautiful. No, you're right. Actually, I can't believe I haven't seen that before. It's clearly Hanukkah. Yeah, yeah, it's Hanukkah. And am I saying that wrong? Because I've heard some people say Chanaka What do you mean? Oh the silent show I thought I thought I'd heard someone say Chanaka I just said Hanukkah on an episode of this show a few months ago and

Someone sort of slightly patronizing. He, oh, mad how to go at saying it. So I said it wrong. And I thought maybe it was the chip might have not been silent. So your way to is not to look it up. It's just to try a new way. I knew I could do that. I've been trying to get it since. I don't know what about it since.

And now it came up. What a great opportunity to find out. Is it because it's supposed to be more of like a chuch? Oh, maybe. Kind of sad. Yeah. But you but you've just gone all that clearly is Chanukah. Well because I've seen it written I've seen it spelled like Chanukah sometimes have I not seen it spell like it doesn't matter I think you might have seen it spelt like that because now that you're saying this I think I've seen it spelt like that So I've heard so I'm like imagine if we're oh god Matt you idiot You and then that

Twitter guy is going to get in contact and say, you nailed it. You nailed it. No, yeah. I think it's, I think it's spelt. Anyway, why are we in a place where you don't know? Yeah. Well, you had tried to do was a great segue. You were so good at segue into comedy festival. And then you'd got into the Chanukahs of it all. Let Dave take over.

My eyes literally twitching, um, which is they do twitching, which is when I'm stressed. And it's so funny that this has brought it on. That's the most I've ever seen at Twitch. It feels like it's going off right now. We do love the Melbourne International Comedy Festival time of year here in Melbourne. We're doing some live podcasts, which is great fun. And Cam, you're coming down to do your new show, which you're also touring around Australia. And there's, you know, it's a full story you've got going on this year, which I'm so excited

to see. I've just seen the blurb and heard you describe it a couple of times. You want to tell us what it's about? Because the concept, I'm very excited. Sure. The show is called Mix Tape. And it's what I like to do with my shows guys. Thanks for asking about my process.

Is combined storytelling and music. Can you believe it? Is that for the first time? Well, do you know what's actually psychotic Dave is? When I was coming up with this show, I said to someone, I think I've invented a new form of comedy. I've got a story running through the show, but then I've got songs breaking up the story. And I think no one's ever done that before. And then my wife was like, that's musicals. You've written a musical. I was like, holy shit. What the fuck is wrong with me? I thought I'd invented something. And then she's like, holy shit. What the fuck is wrong with me?

I thought I'd invented something and then she's like, yeah, like the oldest form of entertainment. I feel so dumb. But yeah, I've got some, I am, so my last show that I taught around electric dreams was mainly set in the early 2000s. It was my recollections of high school. This, I'm stretching myself and I'm telling a story that is set in the late 2000s. It's all set in one year when I was 21 and I had my first serious relationship. But more importantly, I got my first real job, which was as a singing waiter at a horror-themed dinner theater restaurant in Newcastle.

That's when Mai is pricked up. And the message of the story is having to choose between those two things, the love or the career. And I mean, you've got to come to the show to see which one I picked. You've got to heart out today, don't you? Because you've got to get down to the yellow submarine theater restaurant after this. I'm doing I'm playing exclusively theater restaurants on this tour. So if some more could open up, that would be good, because I think they are

dying art form. Apparently in the eighties, they were like 18 in Melbourne or something. Tony Martin said when he moved over, he counted them up and it was something like 18 or some wild amount. That's crazy. It must have been the must have been the center of the the theater restaurant universe, Melbourne briefly, I think. Melbourne was huge for, I've done my research. Melbourne was huge for it.

There was a bar called like Mary and John's Tiki lounge or something like that. And and it was in the middle of city and it was just it blew up. Everyone loved it. And then more came out of that even Newcastle in the early 2000s had three theater restaurants. Wow. Is that insane? Like why one is more than enough. But then we had three.

The one that you worked at, where would it sit like in the rankings of those three? Great question. Were you at the top one or were you? Great question. Well, we lasted the longest. Okay. I don't know if that's an endorsement or just like a cockroach surviving a nuclear fallout. Well, Melbourne's longest lasting one is Witchers and Bridges, I reckon. And that's, I don't know if it's still open, but the building's still there.

And as a kid driving past it, it was very exciting to see that facade. Yeah, it's a great facade. It looks like castle. Yeah. That one got shut down because they found out that the owners were brewing their own spirits. OK. No, they've been distilling it. They were brewing them.

They were adding hops and yeast. Yeah, they were like making their own gin or something in a bathtub. That's what I'm relating. So they're all a bit touchy. That's amazing. I drank that. A kid at school made his own vodka one year when we were in like year 11. And that party was wild. It was like this brief period where everyone was off their heads and then people

just spewing in every garden, every pot plant available. And that kid looking around being like, this party rules. I'm going to be remembered forever. That is insane. That's really dangerous, Matt. You could have all gone blonde. I know. I know of that. Isn't that such reckless behavior? It's weird for a 17-year-old to be like that. Most 17-year-olds are quite sincere and genuine and serious.

So, looking forward to your show, Cam, but you're here this week to give us another fantastic report. We've had you on in the past for the Guinness Book of World Records, the Matrix. 13th Beetle. No, 13 days as the 13th Beetle. The 13th Beetle. An honorary roadie. I mean, there's been so many 5th Beetles over the years that there probably are about 13. 13 5th Beetles.

Yeah, that's right. That was the last one I did solo. That was good fun. Um, I have another music themed one for you this week. Great. Very, very exciting. Now, should we quickly explain to people who may not have heard the show before? Matt, how does the show work?

Uh, so one of the three of us, uh, or four of us in this case, uh, because that's 13th Beatles in today. Uh, we go away and we report, we write up a report after researching a topic. It's basically like a school oral presentation. We bring it back, tell the others about it while they usually sort of rudely interrupt a lot and go on dog shit riffs

and make the person doing the report sit there like, okay, I'm trying I was actually about to get to a pretty important bit here. Can I jump back in here or have you finished having fun? And then hopefully we'll make eye contact and realize how tense it's feeling for you and we'll say oh please do go on. And anyway this week Cam James very lucky to have him in to do another report. We normally start the reports with a question. I don't know if we're doing that this week, Cam.

No, they always forget. I think every time I forget. Well, that's probably our job to remind you to be honest. Yeah, as you were explaining, I was like, we should have reminded Cam about the question. I always forget every single time. Well, we started with the question. The question was, do you have a question? You said no, we said correct.

Now we start the report. That counts as a question, I think. Yeah. I have a question, but it's not really relevant. My question is, um, that can of Glenn 20 that was behind Jess earlier, is that going to be a part of the episode? Or is that just sort of? I put it away.

I can bring it back up if you want, but there are actually two cans of Glenn 20 behind me. Whoa. Yeah, we have flush with Glenn 20. Glenn 40 is doing pretty well. Very well. There are tissues in here again this week. You know how WD-40 is, stands for water displacement

and it was the 40th test he'd done whatever. Oh, no, I didn't know that. It's Glenn 20 like Was it the 20th Glenn who came out of it? They kept getting different glens in trying to make a cleaning product and finally the 20th Glenn Yeah, the 20th Glenn is the 13th beetle. Yeah, 13 days as a Glenn Get the fuck out. I've put the Glenn 20 back up for you, Cam. So that would just be there ready for you to just look at whenever you need it. So I think it's good because if if this story gets to like stinky or dirty or whatever, you know, please feel free to spray me down.

That would be appropriate. Is that what Glenn 20 does? It's more of an odor suppression. Is that right? I actually don't know what it does. This one's an all-in-one, so it does actually neutralize odors. But it also disinfects surfaces and removes bacterial odors from fabrics. Sounds like the perfect deodorant.

That sounds everything. By the way, this has been the most natural step going into an ad, I think that any of us have ever done. Thank you, we've gotten really good at it. Thanks to Glenn20. We were so complimentary of their product. Who is it? What the fuck is it? Yeah, we're now doing ads on spec,

so we send them into them and say, we can have this out unless you want to pay us. Or we send it to them with an invoice. Or if you hate it, you can pay us to edit it out. Just be really bagged the products. You pay us easily and then we'll do what you want us to do. Yeah, that's how we all have mansions. Yeah, fuck yeah.

How good is it being rich? Oh man, I was hesitant at first, I'll be honest. I was like, oh, I'm getting pretty rich. I don't know about this. I feel silly for that now because it rules. I'm never going back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Never going back. No, rich is actually way better.

Yeah. It's so much better than no much better. I go to the supermarket. I don't even worry about the increase in prices. I mean, the fact that you still go is amazing. I got a guy. I order it online and a man brings it to me. Is it Glenn? It's Glenn. Glenn 21. Okay that's a bit. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Hey, should I do it? Should I dive in? All right. I just want to say at the beginning before I begin this report, two things. I've got a name for this report. Oh I like to give it a name. It's always fun. You know, is it Glenn? Are there any musician Glenn rock stars that you think of Glenn Glenn Campbell country musician fantastic We've got one happy happy now. Thank you. Yep. There's probably others We had him rich did your magic god rich start as music. Yeah, I should assume so Everyone gets a start in TV from music Or football or reality TV. Yeah, okay. Yeah, maybe it was a football

They're the things that you do. Um, of this report is The Rock and Roll Murderer. Oh, okay. I like that. I can see why I use that title because I'm in. Not bad. See, that's a hook. And I also want to say as well, it is a music themed one, as you can probably guess from the title. It also involves crime. Yep.

And the reason I picked this is because my show this year that I'm touring also has a story element at the intersection of music and crime. Right. And I'm a bit, it's sort of like a sweet spot for me. I love this whole, you know, I love this whole like show business meeting, like, like a, a yeah true crime element It's a real fun era for me and hopefully one day my show gets adapted into a movie as well Mm-hmm as this should this should also be a movie. Okay Shall I begin please here we go the story begins on

May 10 2001 just to get the dates right for you there. A 56-year-old man named Vinnie Taylor is peacefully fishing off the pier outside his South Florida retirement community home when suddenly is swarmed by police and four U.S. marshals handcuffed, dragged into a white van and arrested for murder. The thing that made this even more salacious is that Vinnie Taylor was once the lead guitarist

and singer of one of the biggest rock and roll bands to ever come out of the 1960s, a band called Shana Na. Now my first question for you guys is, do you know Shana Na? I do know when Homer says bring on Shanana. That's kind of my... Of course it's a Simpson. That's my friends.

My touchstone for them. What about the other two, Jess and Matt? Do you guys know who they are? I know the name and now I'm realizing that's possibly from the Simpsons. But I don't know the songs but the name rings a bell, yeah. Matt? Yeah, no, I'm not sure either. I don't think it, yeah. I mean, I'm sure I've heard songs where they say,

Sha-na-na. Sure, yeah. Is that them? Do they sing all the songs with Sha-na-na in it? Weirdly they do. Sha-na-na, Sha-na-na, Sha-na na na. Is that one of this? Goodbye. No, you're way off base.

Actually, but the Simpsons reference is probably where I first heard of them too, I think. But that's pretty much everything from 20th century of culture. Really? Yeah. I'll like know about it from the Simpsons for about 10 years and then finally get it one day and then go oh That's all that Simpsons joke is about Sometimes I think it's less funny once I understand it though

I thought it was just rhythmically it sounded really cool Oh, that's a real band. I thought it was rhythmically, it sounded really cool. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so Sean and I, you probably have seen them before. Have you guys all seen the movie, Grease? Yeah. Yes. Okay, so you know in the movie, Grease, when they go to the dance and there's a band playing on stage,

a band called Johnny Casino and the Gamblers. And they play like, there's the dance contest is going on, where Danny and Sandy is supposed to be dancing together. Yeah. But then Danny goes rogue, and then he starts dancing with Chacha. And Sandy gets upset and leaves. So the band on stage, they call Johnny Casino and the Gamblers in the movie. But in reality, they are Shana Na. I think Johnny Casino and the gamblers is better.

That's so good. They should have adopted that perfectly. That rules. It is such a good name. When I was in high school, I kept pitching that name as a bare name to my dad. I kept pitching Johnny Casino on the gamblers and Bill Posters and the and the prosecutors. Oh, that's good. It took me two seconds, but that's good stuff. Worth it.

Yeah. I will get to the murder in a second, but I think the impact of this story will hit a little bit harder if we all have a little context for who's Shana Na'a and who's Shana Na'a aren't. Which is one of the worst sentences I've ever written down and saying it out loud. I was like, why the fuck did I write that? Because it's great. So if you ever look up pictures of this band, you'll see they're quite a big band and I don't just mean popularity wise. I mean numbers wise.

There's literally 12 members. Wow. Outfit there. Yeah, 12, 12 people. In a rock band? In a rock band. You don't see that in a rock band. No.

You don't. Horn section. We're talking big horns or something? No, strangely. They're pretty much. All right. This is where it gets even weirder. They're pretty much all Singers And there's a couple of musos in the band so they they They kind of have a crazy beginning shana now and maybe I should get into it So there's you if you look up photos and I maybe you are doing that right now Dave, but they are definitely am and I'm looking at these guys going

They've got some beautiful voices. I can just feel it. Oh, wow. 12, 12 boys, by the way, no, no girls, of course. Um, and their look, as you can probably see, is pretty like 50s rockabilly style, like tight white t-shirts, black leather jackets, slicked back, greaser hairdo. And if you ever listen to their stuff, that's pretty much exactly what they do. They do classic rock and roll songs, classic doo-wop songs, you know, crunchy guitars, a lot of vocal harmonies. They look like they're from the 50s. They're actually not from the 50s. They didn't form until 1969. So that's if you're counting like a long time after the 50s really It's like nine years after the 50s basically in fact it is

exactly Their whole thing that they did could kind of be viewed as a parody of the 1950s That's kind of what they were doing There are a bunch of guys that were slightly too young for the actual thing and it's kind of almost like they're making fun of the shit that their older brothers and sisters were into when they were teenagers. It's almost like if, like, from people our age, it's like if the next generation below us, there was just a really popular band that was sort of making fun of MGMT or the killers or something and all the young kids are like, ha, ha, ha, isn't that funny? That that's what they used to listen to.

And we're like, no, that's good. What are you talking about? It's actually rules. The thing that was missing from my life was more MGMT. So I'm actually stoked about this. I'm actually loving it. Yeah. They also were a cover band. They didn't really write many original songs.

They pretty much just covered classic 1950s songs, do-op songs and stuff like that. I guess like you'd categorize them now as a novelty band, but that phrase didn't really exist back then. And weirdly, they became incredibly famous, especially in America, because they played Woodstock in 1969. Really?

Oh, that's- We did an episode on Woodstock a while ago. Yeah, I probably would have read out who, yeah, the list in order of who played, so that's another name I would have said. At the time, I probably would have said, then they brought on Shana Na! Or something like that. All the die-hard fans are going to be like, yeah, Dave's already made that like that. Yeah. All the die hard fans are gonna be like, yeah, Dave's already made that joke actually.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so how they got to that point is probably just as interesting. I mean, here's the thing. As I've already said, this is sitting right at the intersection of my interests, like music and crime and the weird mystery.

So I can get bogged down in the details that might not be interesting to other people. So please feel free to spray the Glen 20 if this is getting through in the weeds. By the way, fantastic product, Glen 20. We're big fans over here. Hi, you might have heard me go quiet for a bit. I'll try and hit at the bottom of the name

and it seems like a mystery. Maybe it's something you and Alexi could do a new series of Finding Glen. Finding Glen. Finding Glen. Finding Glen. Finding Glen. Finding Glen.

Yeah, okay. All right, so I'll tell you a little bit about how Shana and I came to be. This badass rock and roll group started as a Glee Club at Columbia University, New York City. You guys probably know what Glee Clubs are from the show Glee. Of course. I had never saw Glee, but I just assumed they're like a singing group, singing club. Yeah. It's like an acapella group, basically. It's like a group of dudes who it's the extracurricular

thing they do at uni. I guess you can do drama or sport or whatever. These guys do just 12 guys just sit around and sing songs, basically. They're an acapella group. They're called the Columbia Kingsman. In 1960. That's still a better name. The Shana. I think I would go, Johnny Casino and the gamblers number one.

Columbia Kingsman. Bill Posters and the Prosecutors. Okay, that's number two, sorry. Yeah, close second. Number three, Columbia Kingsman. Yeah. And then Shanana. Probably, yeah.

Then Shanana. Well, yeah, well, okay, well, we can write to them and hopefully they can go back in time and change their story. They were made up of 12 uni students. They were musical theatre kids and poetry majors who were trying to become famous as a vocal harmony group, which is just awesome. Like, already that's insane that that was something you could think to do in 1969.

They didn't have Netflix. Yeah, like, hey, we should, you know how we all like 12 guys that just sing with no instruments? Let's get famous for this. Yeah, the money you have to make all like 12 guys that just sing with no instruments? Let's get famous for this. Yeah, the money you have to make to support 12 guys. Yeah, yeah. Really famous.

So they they had four original songs that were like folk songs, very of the time, you know, like a Simon and Garfunkel vibe thing. And they decided to put on a showcase at uni where they'd invite a bunch of people from record labels to come and hear their original songs. They booked an hour show, but their four songs only made up like 10 minutes or whatever. And they needed to fill the time. We've all done that. We've all done that.

We've all stretched it out to an hour. Start doing some riffing in there. 12 guys doing crowd work on the stage. In harmony, what do you do? What do you do? Are you guys dating? Is this your wife? What's your, how long have you been together? No, don't look at her, you and some.

So to pad out their show, they decided to do a show. the no, don't look at her, you and so. So to pad out their show, they decided to do a bunch of cover songs of oldies from the 1950s, the previous generation. As we've already said, they kind of were a bit too young for it. It was sort of songs their older siblings would have played. One of the original members of the band, Alan Cooper says that there was no grand plan. We just picked these songs from the fifties because we all knew them from our childhood and they were very easy for the band to play. And then they did the show and according to the band, no one gave a shit about their four original songs.

But the crowd went absolutely crazy for the 50s covers and the uni loved it. And they were like, we need you guys to start putting on shows all the time. If you could just do those 50s songs, like it's just crushing, like people are buying drinks, people are dancing. It's like a big party. And so they very quickly abandoned their plans of becoming a vocal harmony group. And they just lean full into being like a 50s cover band very quickly by their second gig. And more than that, they go all out costume and choreography wise as well.

So they do a bunch of dance routines to these songs. They go out and they all buy a bunch of 1950s teen rebels style outfits, you know, like the rolled up t-shirts and gold Lame jackets and they start slicking their hair back and kind of dressing like the 50s. And just for a little bit of context for you guys, at this point in American history, 1969, when people looked back on the 1950s, they weren't picturing what we picture when we picture the 50s. they weren't picturing what we picture when we picture the 50s. They weren't picturing like motorcycles and leather jackets and like greases or hoods or whatever.

The main image of like the 50s back then was wholesome, all American preppy stuff. Like the show Leave It To Beaver and the Little Rascals and like, you know, Eisenhower. It was all like very buttoned up preppy leather, preppy jackets, you know, like Ron Howard from Happy Days, Not The Fonds. Oh, totally. More Ron Howard. You've nailed it in one. Yeah. And you know what? It was also interesting. Happy days had not come out yet. So this is pre-Happy Days. But there's like, there's a couple of rebels in history. Obviously, there's Elvis was like the leather jacket dude, James Dean, there's a movie Blackboard Jungle,

which is about bikers and stuff. So, but the rebel figure was kind of like minor in pop culture. These guys, they were just like, Hey, let's all dress like James Dean, basically, that would be cool. If we all like, if we all just be the cool guy in the band. No, I'm the cool guy. Hey, all 12 of us are the cool guy. And so like, they all decided to dress as the cool rebel guy and, uh, and lean into this James Dean look about them. They all started slicking their hair back with gel, which one of the members who'd never used gel before referred to as disgusting grease. And can I just say this is the first time in history

that anyone refers to hair gel as grease. This predates the movie grease. Wow. This predates the movie grease. Wow. This predates the happy days. But they all thought that was funny. So they all started calling it grease as an in-joke. So they came up with greases and everything is from that. Yeah.

That's wild. So back then, when people talked about these rebel figures, like James Dean, whoever, they weren't ever called greases. They were called hoods or juvenile delinquents or JDs. like rebel figures like, you know, James Dean, whoever, they weren't ever called greasers. They were called hoods or juvenile delinquents or JDs. No one in history had ever called them a greaser before until Shana N'ah or the Columbia Kingsmen as they were known at the time,

made a little joke about referring to hair gel as grease. And then on stage, they started referring to themselves as greas and they named their show they put on this weekly show at Columbia Uni called The Glory That Was Greece, which is like a it's so nerdy there's such nerds like their poetry majors they took a line from an Ed Galan Po poem called To Helen which is about Helen of Troy. And one of the lines is the glory that was Greece, G-R-E-E-C-E, and they just changed it like so nerdy. But yeah, that's the fifth best title now.

Yeah, totally. So that became their thing. And then people started calling them greasers when they were walking around campus and people on campus started dressing like them because they were kind of popular and cool. So like this 50s aesthetic started infiltrating Columbia University and everyone was like, fuck, like the 50s is cool. And like, let's all dress like this. That's where leather jackets and colossals, greases and shit like that. Already, this is interesting. And maybe this is just me getting in the weeds, but I just, I find it really crazy and weird. Yeah. No, that's, I love that.

It's so funny when, yeah, we, what we see as the fifties was a late 1960s invention almost. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Not quite an invention, but it was taking something in. We're taking like a small subculture and then now we all think that's what everyone was like. Yeah, yeah. That's amazing. Yeah, totally. And I guess that does happen. Like a generation removed, you start to just pinpoint certain things and go, that's what we're all doing. I remember watching the wedding singer. The first time I saw the wedding singer, I was like, I guess that's just what the 80s was.

Everyone had huge hair and big jackets. But then when you watch, you know, when you see photos of your parents from the 80s, like no one dressed like that. Maybe there's one guy in each group that dressed like that. But that's anyway, that's now how we see the 80s. And that's how we see the 50s. Thanks to these guys. So the Kingsman, they're a big hit on campus.

They get a manager, another student, this guy called Ed Goodgold, great name, who tells them they need to change their name. He tells them to change their name to Shana Naa, which is like a classic backing vocal line from all those doo-wop songs that you were referencing, Matt. And they do. And, you know, that's that that's a little bit of history as a little side note about Ed Goodgold. I almost feel like this guy could have his own report as well. He he lived a very weird life. I don't have time to get into all of it, even though I want to.

But as well as managing Shana N'ah, Ed Goodgold is most famous for being the inventor of, wait for it, trivia. The concept of question and answer. What is trivia if not just knowledge? Obviously, quiz shows and stuff had existed for a long time on radio and probably TV as well. They'd been like quiz shows, but they'd never been like pub trivia. You know what I mean? Like the idea of like you go to a pub and you're in a team and there's some guy asking questions and you're all competing. This guy, Ed Goodgold, started a trivia night at Columbia University.

And he came up with the idea of people playing in teams and having names. And he kind of like codified what trivia has become. He published a book while he was at uni called The Rules of Trivia. And that's how it kind of kicked off and became a craze. And weirdly, as another side note, at those earlier trivia nights on campus,

Shana and I were the house band that would play between... For some reason, questions? Between rounds, I guess. Like, how weird is that? So like, this is the birth of trivia, which when I look back on it as a moment in time, I'm like, oh, this is the birth of nostalgia in a way. Like, nostalgia for the previous generation.

Like we've got this band that are kind of parodying their older brothers records. And then they've got this guy who's like, Hey, I'm going to make a whole night where it's just about the past. Like, can you remember things from the past? And whoever wins is the person that remembers the most from this. You are the most nostalgic because you could name every element on the periodic table. It's very strange. So with Ed's backing, the band set out into New York City to try and get booked in clubs, but it's a huge wake-up call for them because everywhere they audition, the club owners are like, what the fuck is this shit?

This is mental. What do you mean? It's 1969. It's the summer of love. It's like psychedelic wild rock music. And then there's these 12 theater nerds all pretending to be James Dey and singing covers of songs from less than 10 years ago. It's so weird. Songs are still on the radio. Yeah, like you'd be like, oh yeah, that song. Why? Why are you doing that? Only one club will book them. There's this place called The Scene, who, whose book sort of thinks things, thinks they're a bit weird and funny.

And he gives them a residency on Saturday nights with a regular spot at the prime time hour of 2 a.m. Yes. Yes. How good is that? nights with a regular spot at the prime time hour of 2am. Yes. Yes. How good is that? Like imagine if that happened with comedy too. It's like, hey, yeah, you're on, but you're on at 2am every night.

You're fucking awesome. Yeah. Imagine if that's how you got your start in an industry, like a radio or something. Oh yeah, true, actually. Shit. That'd be crazy. Sorry, Jess. Imagine if you did that for three years, you fucking idiot. Oh yeah, true. Actually, yeah. That'd be crazy. Sorry, Jess. Imagine if you did that for three years, you fucking idiot.

One AM, two AM, perfect time. Hey, at least you have a national audience for that. These guys were in a club, playing to like 40 people. Who's there at two AM? Yeah, who's there? Well, as it turns out, the scene is like a bit of a dive bar. And they kind of like, they pretty much get famous for booking the weird books of the weird bands of the era around New

York and around America, bands that aren't getting booked in any of the big rooms. Some of these bands you might have heard of. Let's see if you've heard of these guys. The Doors. Yeah. the doors. Yeah. Jimi Hendrix, the Velvet Underground, Janice Joplin. These are all like weirdo bands at this point. They haven't quite broke. This is pretty wood stock, remember? So like all these weirdo bands are hanging out there and Shana and Aron at 2am doing their weird review. So they, it's kind of weird because they start their residency at this exact moment that all of this uncool music suddenly becomes the coolest music in the world. And the scene becomes our scene every night. It goes from it goes from being a dive bar to being packed every single night. The coolest people

of New York City start coming all the theater actors and all the artists. Andy Warhol hangs out there. Liza Manelli, Peter Allen, Mick Jagger, Linda McCartney, all these people are there to watch the cool bands. And at every night at 2 a.m. Sean Arnaugh, come on. And according to legend, during their first ever performance, the crowd is a bit baffled. They're a bit like, what the fuck is happening here? But then Jimmy Hendrix is watching and apparently he stands up on a table

and starts cheering for them. And then the rest of the crowd starts cheering from them. And overnight, they become one of the coolest bands in New York City. Wow. They have Hendrix's approval. Hendrix loves them so much that he gets them booked on Woodstock. In fact, he refuses to play Woodstock unless they're his opening act. So if you look at the lineup, which you guys would have done on your app, Hendricks closes Woodstock really early in the morning on the Monday, I think.

He's like 11 a.m. or something. Isn't this something crazy? It's a really weird time. Like it's they the party's been going all night and then Hendricks is on like in the morning and Shana and I are on before him. They do like a 20 minute set right before him. And when you watch the movie, you can see he's watching from side of stage going crazy. And weirdly, so is Marty Scorsese and like there's all these people watching shana.

It's really bizarre it's um it's really cool so he uh so he plays they play Woodstock it's their eighth gig at this point that happen. They haven't been around for very long. They haven't been around for very long. They're playing wood stock. They're playing wood stock. Yeah, insane. And I guess like, because it's like maybe the tail end of the 60s, this whole, there's a bit of flower power overkill. The hippie crowd just love it. Like, I don't know if it's ironic.

It's really hard to tell, but it seems like maybe there's a touch of irony and they just get fully embraced by the hippie crowd. Everyone's loving it because it's a throwback, I suppose. They think it's funny. The set's a powerhouse of a set. It gets featured in the Woodstock documentary. Most of their set is in that documentary. It makes them famous around the country and they start touring their show, The that was grease around huge theaters. That tour kicks off a wave of fifties nostalgia that takes over all of North America the musical grease comes out in 1971 multiple other fifties style bands start appearing. There's a TV show called Love American Style, which inspires the movie American Graffiti starring Ron Howard, which then inspires the TV series Happy Days starring Ron Howard, which has a character called the Fonz, who describes himself as a greaser on screen, and then all of a sudden, greaser becomes the word everyone's using to describe this 50s throwback guy. And it's all fucking just these weird

theater nerds from like from a uni review show that we're trying to be a famous like harmony group. That's amazing. Sean and I are in Greece as well. As I mentioned, they write a couple of songs for the movie soundtrack, including my favorite song, the song Sandy, which is, you know, when they go to the drive-in and they have a fight in the car and Sandy leaves and then Danny sings a song. Oh, Sandy baby, someday when high school is done. I just love it. I fucking love that song. Wow.

And so they actually wrote that track. They wrote that track. That's awesome. They wrote a few songs just for the movie that weren't in the musical. What's the process of 12 Go as writing a song? I think it's this one dude that writes the songs. I looked it up and it's like this song is written by Scream and Scott Simon. And by the way, they all have cool names like that.

There's Screamin' Scott Simon. There's a guy called John Bowser Bowman. There's Vinnie Taylor, who's the main guy that I'm going to be talking about for you in a second. But we're not quite there yet. I'm almost at the end of my context for Shana now. Isn't it? But you've said you've got like supposedly happy days takes part, takes place in the 1950s and the font is using these anachronistic words like graces. Yeah, you're bringing it all down, aren't you? You're the veil of truth that we all thought authenticity of the show.

Where was the research? Yeah, I think I hope that's listed as a goof on IMDB. I'm actually, Greta wasn't actually a term they used back then. I actually blew my mind. I've brought this up to Alexi on one of our podcast once. I was like, did you know the word Greta didn't even exist back then. It didn't start till the 60s and became popular in the 70s. And I thought it was interesting.

Alexi couldn't have given Lex ever shit. Really, we're all gripped here. Yeah, I love it. I think it's cool. I think it's like a really fun, weird fact. But Alexi was like, yeah, whatever, man. I don't even know what it's like. That feels very Alexi.

I hated it. I was so upset. Yeah. In fact, there's a, there's a, I read this some academic paper in my research for this report about it's called Shana and I and the invention of the fifties. And anyone who wants to read that can read that. That's online. And it's pretty much all about this stuff.

But they're, they're like iconography became a replacement for what was originally like the image of the 50s people had in their head. It's like it replaced people's memories of the 50s. Yeah. 100%. Like so strange. A fake version replaced the real. There would be there'd be guys who were teenagers in the 50s who now believe

that they were like the Fonz, you were like, no, we that was us. That was we did that. It's like, oh, we've tracked down some photos, dad, and that was not you. You were freaking out. You're just wearing a plaid button up shirt, fucking loser. All right, so I've made a bit of fun of the fact that these guys are all musical theater dorks pretending to be tough guys. But most of the accounts I read say there was one genuine tough guy in the band and

that was the guy from the beginning of the story, Vinnie Taylor. Vinnie was not a musical theater kid. He's actually from the Bahamas. He played in a lot of real rock and roll bands. And when you watch the clips, you can tell he's like a really fucking good guitar player. And when you look him up, he looks the most legit of all of them. He has tattoos. He's got this like kind of strung out, sleazy New York City kind of look. He looks a bit like he was in the Ramones or something. Like he's got, he's got mutton chops and he wears like big glass. He looks cool. And he's a druggo as well. Like he's clearly like a drug guy. The other guys smoke a little bit of weed, but you can tell even just from looking at Vinny Taylor, this guy parties a little harder than the musical theater kids. Um, all right. So I just wanted to give a little context

for that. Uh, what else can I tell you? Okay. So after Woodstock, a lot of stuff happens for this band. They get a TV show. They're in the movie, Greece. They tour around their 12 members blow out and shrink down many times during that era. They a lot of people come and go. I think over the course of like the next 10, 15 years, there's 49 members of Shana. Oh, wow. Yeah, I pulled up the Wikipedia page and their former members section was very long. And I thought, I reckon Cam might get to this.

That's insane. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot. And like some of them just quit and become stuff that's not in music. Like this, one of the main original members, Alan Cooper, is now a rabbi. There's another guy that's an academic, George Leonard. He writes papers for Columbia University and stuff. Most of them start touring around in like break off versions of Shana now. You know how like the Eagles do that shit and the Beach Boys.

There's always different. There's two UB 40s. Yeah. I love there's demand for multiples of sudden bands. Yeah. Is it like the real Shanana or Shanana Na? Oh yeah. Yeah, it's all names like that. The real Shanana, the original Shanana. Well, weirdly, there is a band called Na Na Sha, Well, weirdly, there is a band called Na Na Sha. But they're not official. They're like, because then this starts happening too.

There starts being tribute acts to their band, which is already a tribute act. And one of the most popular ones is Na Na Sha, who start touring around the country and drawing almost as big a crowd. And Na Na try to stop them, but they can't because they don't own any of these songs that they're singing. So, hey, everyone's like, that covers ours.

You stop doing that cover. We did it first. We cut it off first. Yeah. No, I'm sure. So now at this point, it gets confusing because like at first we have like the real taking, the fake taking over the real earlier, but now it's like the fake and the real are sort of into into whining. And it's like, no one's quite sure, you know, what even is Shana now? What is Nana show? What is going on? It's all just like fake versions of real things and real versions of

fake things. I promise I am going to get to the murder soon. But first, I need to jump forward But first, I need to jump forward to the late 1990s. So in this area in the 80s, we've got a lot of copycat bands, a lot of different offshoots of the band. Some members are going solo. Some members retire from music and show business entirely. Some of them seem to disappear. In 1997, in South Florida, the home of retirement communities, there's a new guy in town. This guy shows up to South Florida. He's handsome, he's charming,

he's in good shape, he's shy and polite, but he has an undeniable bad boy shows up at a bar, watches two doo-wop cover bands on stage. There's a man called The Saints, another man called The Mellow Kings. They're two leaders of two guys called Tommy and Joe. The bad boy watches both of their shows. Afterwards, he compliments their sets. And then he tells them that he is Vinnie Taylor the former league guitarist of Shana Nah and for these two do what dudes Vinnie is God they can't believe it No one has heard from Vinnie in 30 years

He's not one of the ones that went off and had his own solo thing or joined one of the real Shana Nah bands he just kind of faded off and all these all these guys from other bands They've been cashing in forever, but not Vinny, he never sold out. And guess what? He's here in South Florida, it's 1997, and he wants to start a band. So Vinny asks Tommy and Joe if they'll merge both of their bands and become his backing band. And they do. And this new band becomes a hit in South Florida retirement community scene. Like it's, they're just, they're touring. I don't know if you guys have seen, there's a documentary called, um, fuck,

it's either called almost heaven or not quite heaven or something like that. It's set in this world, like the South Florida retirement community world. It's almost like an entire towns are just retirement homes, if you know what I mean. Like there's this place they call it the Disneyland of retirement communities. And it's like as big as Disneyland, Florida. And there's multiple bars and like cafes all throughout it. And there's always like oldies bands playing at them. So if you can if you can get on that circuit, not a bad circuit to get on, like constantly touring, constantly making money,

people are loving them, they're a big hit. It may not be Hendrix and Warhol hanging out to watch them, but Vinny's still pretty happy with where he's found himself in life. And he starts getting into it too. He starts bringing back the old Shana style. He starts billing himself as Florida's number one greaser, which is cool.

His website says Vinny Taylor, the number one greaser, the coolest of the cool, the original bad boy of doo-wop. He's great with it. Finish the sentence. Virtual bad boy of doo-wop. Of doo-wop. Also, the coolest of the cool, the coolest of the cool. Yeah, the coolest of the cool. That is awesome.

It's a good, I mean, that's confidence right there. He starts dating a local lady named Jessica Hart. They move in together to her beachfront apartment. He's not as famous as some of the other form of Bam Boy members, but he is, he's making a nice living. He's playing a lot of charity shows around the Florida Keys. He's a beloved member of the community. Local politicians love him.

The cops love him. All in all, he's living a pretty nice life. There are a few odd little things though during this time. For one, his new bandmates, Tommy and Joe, have noticed that Vinny's guitar skills aren't quite what they used to be. I'll do it. I know he's in his late fifties now.

He's maybe he's a little bit rusty, but he he doesn't play like a former legendary guitarist. In fact, he plays more like someone who's just learned the guitar in recent years. But have you ever played for a while, you know,, yeah, your fingers are getting a bit old over slower. And obviously these two guys who he's a god to, they'd recognize him. So it's not some, that's not some guy pretending to be obviously. Yeah, of course. I hope not. Gotta be the guy. He's the coolest of the cool. Yeah. He's the original bad boy. You can't fake that. Can't fake it. His girlfriend, Jessica says, here's another strange thing. His girlfriend, Jessica says, sometimes Vinny wakes up in the middle of the night

convinced that he hears someone at the front door, climbs out the bedroom window and runs off into the darkness. Hey, we've all been there. We've all regularly done that. We all have weird quirks and. Yeah, we've all had someone break in and left our partner to be home. We killed. I'm out of here. See you later.

Bye. And the third strange thing about Vinnie Taylor is that Vinnie Taylor died of a heroin overdose in 1970. Okay, okay. Okay. So this is a ghost. Yeah. I mean. Okay, okay. Okay. So this is a ghost.

Yeah, I mean. Well that makes sense to why he's not very good at guitar. I can't even hold the bloody thing. He's going through it. He's going through it. He's noise out of it all. And he hears someone on the door, it's one of his ghost pals. Yeah.

And he goes out the window to meet them. Do you guys say hello? Go to a ghost bar. Simple. He doesn't have to go through doors. He can just, he can float out of window. Yeah, ghost go through windows. Everyone knows that.

Jessica, this is just classic isn't it? Isn't it amazing that he's got like I was about to say well this is in the day before the internet but you've just said he's built himself on his own website as the original bad boy. I know, I'm going to get to his website a little later. That's so great like the original but he's so bad that he obviously faked his own death in the 70s. That's bad. He played low and now he's back playing the own death in the 70s. That's low. And now he's back playing the retirement circuit. That is bad.

That's bad. That's real bad. Whatever he did that caused him to fake his own death, statute of limitations up. He's like, I can just be, I can come back. I can live freely now. Great. I'm going to go join two bands together and be a frontman. Yeah, fuck yeah.

So Vinnie Taylor, I will say on the record, and I don't want to spend too much time on this because all this sad shit is a bit too sad, but Vinnie Taylor did pass away in 1974, drug overdose. He was struggling with drugs. He did pass away. That is true. The question remains, who the fuck is this guy in in South Florida now who's like billing himself as Vinnie Taylor and And to answer that question, I need to go back in time once more to July 25, 1969, less than a month before Shana and I played Woodstock. And the day that Elmer Edward Solly murdered his girlfriend's son. Again, very

sad. Don't want to go into that too much. But there's a guy called Elmer Edward Sully, who a month before Woodstock committed murder and was sentenced to a 25 year sentence in a maximum security prison. He goes by Edward, not Elmer. I'm gonna call him Edward for the rest of this report, if that's okay with you guys,

don't get too cross with me. I know that Elma is a fun name to say but it's also... It's hard to say. It's hard to say. Elma. Elma. It's not a nice name. No, not in our accent. Maybe in America like Elmer. And we only know the famous Elmer's FUD as well. Yeah. Stick with Edward, I think. I'll stick with Edward. That's a nice name. So Edward is sentenced to 25 years in a maximum security prison for murder.

His mum, a lady named Edna, Edna and Elmer. Jesus Christ. Edna. Edna is like his patron saint from the outside. She refuses to believe that her boy is a murderer. And she begins writing letters to the DA that Edward is not only innocent, but also he's being mistreated by guards in prison. She does such a strong letter writing campaign that eventually Edward is transferred to a medium security prison. That's a powerful letter on campaign. Do you think she's like saying some really cooked stuff in those letters and that's why

they're like, all right. Yeah. I was thinking that maybe it was like 10 a day and they just so like bored of it. Whatever. Get this guy to make this. See all this mail I have to read because I have to read all of it. I was thinking that a letters included like really accurate nudes of herself. And she said there'll be more when these come, where these come from if you send my boy to another prison.

You know? But are they drawings? Drawings, yeah. She's telling drawings. Yeah. They had cameras back then. They had cameras. What?

They had cameras in the 60s. Yeah, right? Yeah, what? She was doing drawings. Never heard of a nude being described as accurate. They had cameras in the sixties. Yeah, right? Yeah, right? Yeah, what? She was doing drawings. I never heard of a nude be described as accurate. It's a very accurate nude. Incredibly accurate nude.

Imagine if you sent a nude to someone and they wrote back, whoa, so accurate. Oh, that's spot on. Whoa. Oh, that's a dead ringer. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Oh, that's a dead ring. All right, let's all try.

Yeah, let's send a nude. Let's see what I saw. Let's all try it tonight and then we'll meet back and talk about that one. All right, so Edward gets transferred to a medium security prison. He's a model citizen. He's friendly with the inmates and the guards. He begins teaching himself music. In particular, he likes the doo-wop songs from the 1950s. What a strange coincidence. During his stay in the joint, as we call it in the biz or in movies I've seen, Edward becomes friends with his prison psychologist. Now,

I don't know anything about the rules of being a prison psychologist. I think they're probably similar to being a regular psychologist, but maybe if it's slightly stricter. I'm going to go out in the living so you probably shouldn't become besties with your patients. And I've tried to befriend my psychologist and she resists. Just you're very needy. And I say, I know, bitch. Let's get it. Let's get a cocktail.

Let's get into it. Yeah, it's so funny. Like he's obviously a charming dude because his his psych becomes his friend, which is just so crazy to me. The psych convinced his convinces the warden that Edward should be allowed to go on furlough to visit his sick grandmother. So furlough is when you get to leave like it's a Navy saying you get to leave the ship or whatever to go on land for a, you know, like to see someone at home. Apparently some prisons do that too, where you can like leave and go visit a sick relative or something.

So the first two times, the warden agrees, the first two times, his psychologist accompanies him and Edward is on great behavior. The third time, his psychologist says, you know what, you've been so good. I, he's a little treat for you. Yeah, I trust you to go by yourself. Just make sure you're back at prison by five or whatever the fuck you say. And so Edward leaves and as you probably guess,

never comes back at all. And I just, I'd love to know what, like there's no info in this, but I'd love to know what it like there's no info in this but I'd love to know what happened to the psychology Can you imagine they like the psychologist being really upset or like something must have happened to you? Yeah, there's got to be an explanation. Oh my god. Oh, no. I hope he's okay. Have we checked the hospitals? This is not like the guy who murdered that kid. This is not like him. This is not like him at all. Edward is a good boy. He probably hit traffic.

That's probably what it was. Yeah. He'll be here. He'll be just keep tapping the watch. Give him 15 minutes. Edward is not seen for 25 years. Wow. That's a good run.

That's a really good run. Most of this time is pretty undocumented. There are a couple of instances where he does pop up, but this this only, you know, gets found out after the fact. In 1975, he's arrested for theft, but he manages to walk on that because he has, he's going by different alias by this point. In 1979, he's arrested for speeding, but again, he has a different alias. And again, he walks. My name is Chris Innocent. Okay. That is such a good name. That's like, that's a good magician name.

Why is Chris such a good magician name? Yeah, because it's like Christ, I guess. There it is. It makes us think of Jesus Christ. Yeah. Great magician. The ultimate magician. Oh my god. The OG.

as Christ. Yeah. Great magician. The ultimate magician. Oh my god. The OG. So he goes through multiple aliases over the years and maybe it's because he loves the oldies or maybe it's because he wanted to pay respect to an idol of his. Maybe it's just ego.

But at some point between the years 1979 and 1997 he chooses the alias of deceased rock star Vinnie Taylor. He gets a birth certificate knocked up. He gets a baptism certificate, which I didn't even know was something you could get. He gets a social security number, all of it. He begins living life as Vinnie Taylor. He's also a wanted man during this entire time. So there's a 25 year window there where he's a fugitive and people are still looking for him. His mom, Edna, refuses to cooperate with the police the entire time for this 25 year window. They think that she was in touch with him. She's denying it. They keep threatening to, like, I guess get her for obstruction of justice or whatever.

And she's always like, do whatever you want, but I'm not telling you anything about my son. Like she's a pretty badass mom, I guess. The original bad mom. The original bad mom of two-whop. Eventually, the police give up and the case is turned into a cold case. Chief investigator detective Louis Kinkl, which is a good name. That was a kinkl. Yeah.

I can't lie. Yeah. Louis Kinkl says, we believed we'd never find him. He'd live underground and die in the woods and we'd never know what happened to him. And no one pretty much did until 2001, as I mentioned earlier, Vinnie Taylor moves to South Florida, begins touring the retirement community scene with Tommy and Joe. The fake has now outlived the real at this point. Edward plays the part of Vinnie well. He has a custom van with a pick of him on the side.

A pick of him or the real Vinnie? Yeah. A pick of him, actually, not the real Vinnie. I pick of him actually not the real Vinnie. That's me. Is it? It's a long time ago obviously. I'm older now. Yeah that was before I died from heroin overdose. The fact that you're on the run for murder and you've got a van with your photo on the side of it is incredible. Yeah. Isn't it crazy? You wouldn't even think twice that you wouldn't look at it you go well clearly a murder wouldn't have a picture of their face on the van. That's more of a real sedation.

It's just one of the most strange incidences. I still can't like someone should do a real psych, maybe not his prison psychologist, but someone else should do a psychological report on like this guy. Why would he? He must have had a big ego or something, right? Like to think that he could do this and sort of, you know, plaster his face everywhere and all this shit. So...

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He has a gold satin Shana Nair jacket that he wears everywhere. He has jewelry with the band's name on it as well. He makes his own website, which I mentioned earlier, which has since been taken down, but is still up on archive.org. Thank God for that resource. Thank God for the Wayback Machine, because I've spent a bit of time scrolling it over the last couple of days. He's got an extensive biography, a merch store, a photo gallery. This guy has a better online presence than me to be honest.

It's huge. There's a lot on here I wonder if I did I write down some of my favorite quotes From here. I did yeah, can I can I read some of them? Alright, so it's the website is shana nod one dot com It says in 1974 Vinnie left the music scene with what could be termed a shroud of mystery. Yes, you could term it that. I could say that, yeah. That's such a great way to describe a death. The circumstances were only known to a select few in the industry. But the bad

boy continued singing under the guise of anonymity in order to protect certain economic and personal relationships that were important to him. Although some known individuals tried to discredit him into oblivion for their own reputations and greed, the bad boy vowed to never totally disappear from music and the fans that he loved. So good I love that he keeps calling himself the bad yeah the bad boy. It's so good and it's in italics as well we know it's like we know you're writing it man yeah yeah. So funny as well if it is that you go that it is about that reputation isn't his. Yeah, somebody else. Yeah.

It's like a fantasy though, isn't it? You get to be like, yeah, I'm a rock star. I did all these cool things. Yeah, that's me. I'm a bad boy. And you're not going to like get caught for it because the real one's dead. Yeah, exactly. So it's just this foolproof way of taking over a new life. This is another line I really liked.

He honed his silken voice under the street lamps of Manhattan's Little Italy during the golden age of rock and roll. Isn't that an evocative? I mean, I've never heard the first silken voice. I love it. It's like a Bruce Springsteen lyric, like under the street lamps of little Italy. It's a well-known fact that when Vinny would take the lead vocals singing a love ballad that many, many girls would remember him until this very day.

Wow. It's a well-known fact. People will remember him. It's a well-known fact. It's sort of, it almost feels like he's saying some huge thing, but then in the end it's like they'll remember him. Yeah, they'll remember him to this day. Yeah, yeah. If you ask the night guy, it's like they'll remember him. Yeah, they'll remember him till this day. Yeah, if you ask them, they'll go, yeah, that rings a bell.

Yeah, I think I saw him sing, maybe. Yeah, probably. How can it be a fact that some people will remember you? A well-known fact. Well-known fact that some women will remember this man. Men, not so much, but women. The women will remember this man. Men, not so much, but women. The women will remember that silken voice. I'll get back to the website a little bit later.

I want to say, yeah, during the 25 years that he's on the run and during the time that he's in South Florida, he does have a few close calls. As I mentioned earlier, his new bandmates, Tommy and Joe, they begin to suspect something's off and maybe he's not exactly who he says he is. So they do, in my opinion, the smart thing and contact the actual Shanana via shanana.com probably and say, hey, we're in a band with Vinnie Taylor, but we think he's not the real Vinnie Taylor. Can you confirm whether he is or not? The manager of Shana Naga called Peter Erlison, he finds it's very odd because

Vinnie has been dead for three decades at this point. And he says, yeah, no, that's not him. He died of a drug. I was at the funeral. I remember. Very sad. The band mates then confront Edward aka Vinnie and say, hey, we rang Shana Na and they said Vinnie Taylor's dead. So what do you say to that? Then Edward says to them, okay, what I'm going to tell you is highly classified information. This is awesome. This is so good. He says, I actually faked my death because I was working for the CIA at the time.

Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Go big. Yeah. I think now's the time to go real big if you can. Yeah. He says Vinny Taylor was my cover name. My real name is Danny Catalana, which is not his, not even his real name.

So that's just, is that just a new alias altogether? He's just got a new alias, but he's saying that that was his original name. Vinny Taylor was a cover name. He was in Shanana, but more importantly, he was a highly trained assassin and operative for the CIA all throughout the 1960s and 70s. And that's why he had to fake his own death. I love it because he's making more things that'll be easily disproved. Yeah. It's like, oh, show us some of your highly trained skills. Oh, I can't do that in front of civilians. I hurt my knee. I can't do it.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, so Tommy and Joe believe it weirdly. They're like, awesome. Yeah. Okay. Cool. That's actually cool.

Do you have to be rifted in the moment or had that backup story ready to go in case they figured it out? Yeah. I don't know if he had the backup story, but he had a backup burst certificate. So he has a burst certificate with the name Danny Cantalana on it or Daniel Cantalana or something. And does he carry that with him at all times? So they confront him.

He's like, well, let me just reach into my pocket and blow your mind. And once this one gets uncovered, he'll have one deeper down in there. Another one, and my actual name is Chris Innocent. Yeah. And there's a coin behind you here. So the band keep doing their shows, and every now and then the manager of Fashana and Arpita Oleson receives letters from dissatisfied customers

who say they attended a terrible Vinnie Taylor show in South Florida and they want their money back. So Peter's like, he gets annoyed by this. He sends a cease and desist letter to Edward, aka Danny C, Danny Catalano. Edward replies to him, no, I am the real Vinnie Taylor. I faked my death and I'm going to continue doing these shows. Peter's furious about this. And then according to an interview with him, I read he listened to some of Edward's cover songs online because you could buy the CD. You could buy like a Vinnie Taylor CD. He

listened to it and he was like, actually, he's pretty good. And he listened to it and he was like, actually, he's pretty good. He's actually pretty good. And then that's the manager. I don't tell him when he hears it. That like, that softened him a bit. He was like, he's actually pretty good. Is at that point he signed to Daddy Canalana. So he goes to him like, oh, you know what?

You can keep doing the show, but just please don't call yourself any Taylor anymore. Just go by your real name. And then he actually encourages him. He's like, you're really good. You could, you could actually make it off the back of your own name. That's awesome. Yeah. So, uh, and they decide not, he decides not to sue.

He says, I didn't want to give him any more publicity. I just decided to let him do what he does. So Edward, um, maybe to like, you know, he's a little shaken by the season to see us, maybe he wants to stop any further snooping. He rebrands himself as Danny C. He's still claiming that he's one of the original members of Sean Arnaud, but he's like using the name Danny C. There's 49 members.

Yeah. Sure. There was a Danny C in there. Who knows? And like he starts, so his website gets rebranded around this point, 2000, 2001. He starts calling himself Danny C on the website. A couple of more things that I found on that website that I found fun to read in the updated bio. It says, even today with his many accomplishments,

Danny C is one of the few entertainers that hasn't fallen victim to the ego syndrome like like many of his peers, which is just fun. It's good. Can I think that everything you've said about him, that rings true for me. Humble guy. Yeah. Um, that very next sentence is even now while residing in his palatial estate in Southwest Florida, Danny still likes to hang out with a lot of the dedicated oldies fans and has the highest respect for them

And then he has photos of what is allegedly his palatial estate. It has its own Recording studio in it. He was living in his girlfriend's apartment. Yeah, I set up earlier It's a photo of him at Graceland or something. Yeah The front of the White House. I live here. Perhaps most notably around this time, the photo gallery on his websites, which by the way, the URL is now shanana danysi.com. The website photo gallery starts getting populated with photos of Danny C posing with like local politicians and police officers at various community events. Like he's really going out of his way to almost rub it in the faces of the people, you know, like, look, see, how can I be a fraud when not like,

all the cops love me and all the local politicians love me stuff like that. Cops never do anything fraudulent. I don't think they'd be involved in anything fraudulent. Famously they're straight. Boulevard. Yeah. Straight as a cop. Isn't that what they say? That's what I say. Yeah. Straight as a Floridian cop. I'm sure they say that. I've got that tattoo to my ass.

Yeah. Yeah. So around this time, the cold case reopens. Detective Louis Kinkl, who gave up on this case several years ago, he's back on the job. He believes that technology is advanced so much that he can finally make some progress on this case. He employs a forensic artist called Frank Bender. So do some aged up versions of Edward's original mug shot. Kim Cullen Bender. What a combo. I mean, you'd watch the show. I would watch the show. Yes. Yeah. Frank Bender is kind of famous whenever you watch true crime stuff, especially about serial killers from the 70s and 80s and shit.

It's often Frank Bender's like forensic artwork that leads to some breakthroughs in the case. He's kind of, his main thing was aging up. Like, here's what this guy would look like now. Wow, that's cool. And he caught a few, he helped catch a few people, including another serial killer called John List, like 25 years after his murders. At this point too, so the call case reopens, they get Ray Bender on the job to start aging up some of the original mug shots. Around this time as well, Edward's mom, Edna

dies. She's been keeping the family quiet for the entire 25 year period. She passes away, Kinkl goes to the funeral, but he's up with the family. I'm sorry for your loss, blah, blah, blah. And he starts talking to Edna's husband after the funeral. And he says, come on, like, you know, tell me a little bit about where Edward ended up. You know, I know you guys know. And Edna's husband says, look, it was Edna's wishes that none of us talk about it. All I'll say is that he's a singer nowadays and he's based in South Florida and he goes by the name Danny C. That's all I'll say.

You're not getting anything else out of this. This is his website. This is his website. This is his address. This is phone number. This is what it looks like now. But that's it. That's it. That's all I'll give you. This is very racist. His palatial mansion is... I don't know if you'll actually find him there. That's the White House. So, Kinkl goes back to the office, looks up, you know, Danny C's South Florida singer, singer finds Danny sees website where luckily there's hundreds of photos of him posing with cops and local politicians and onstage and stuff.

And bizarrely enough, all the photos look pretty identical to Frank Bender's updated mug shot. Wow. That is done. is updated mug shot. Wow. That is done. So they employ the US Marshals to stalk Edward for a few days. During that time, they begin to believe he is him.

I think they, I don't know if they went and watched him perform, but I'd like to imagine they do. Yeah. Like they go and watch. I'm imagining them sitting at the back of like a lounge. So like little tables, that kind of venue. They're sitting at the back and they're, so they're not seen, but they have drinks with like little straws and umbrellas in them.

I'm having a drink. And they go to each other. You know what? He's actually pretty good. Are we sure we want to arrest this guy? And they let him off. Let me cry him against music. You gotta come clean.

You gotta give you a real name, but I think you should perform under it. Yeah, you're actually really good. You're actually really good. You're actually really good. You're actually really good. You're actually really good. You're actually really good. You're actually really good. You're actually really good. You're actually really music. You gotta come clean. You gotta give you a real name, but I think you should perform on it.

Yeah, you're actually really good. You'd be great in prison. You should perform in prison. And then at 10 p.m. on May 10, 2001, they, the US Marshals and Louis Kinkl and the local police start sneaking up to the apartment that he shares with Jessica on their way up the lawn Kinkl spots a guy sitting on the pier fishing peacefully by himself It's Edward the man pretending to be Vinnie Taylor Detective Kinkl strolls up to him very calmly taps him on the shoulder and says and I love this line

catch anything and says, and I love this line, catch anything. That's a great one. That is awesome. Yeah, that rules. That chicle must have been so stoked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like walking up and he's sort of racking, like, okay, okay, okay, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.

I've got it. Are there any fish around? No, no, no. Yeah, can I go again? Good morning. No, that's not enough. Damn it. Did he say, because I have, because I just again? Good morning. No, it's not enough. Damn it. Did he say, because I have, because I just did or something like that?

I mean, he probably said something like, it's so good. I mean, apparently Edward turned around and saw a whole team of law enforcement with guns drawn on him. And Kinkl said, come on, Eddie, it's time to go home. Oh, that's good. That is really good. And he said, Shana na jumped into the water. Yeah, swim away. The media had a lot of fun with the story, obviously, you know, former rocker, con artist living in Florida, you know, pretty much everyone in Florida, in South Florida got interviewed about him and pretty much everyone says the exact same stuff. There's a quote from Scott Robbins, a clubbooker that worked with him a lot, who says when he was told Edward was a murderer on the run for nearly three

decades, Scott Robbins said, well, that's not good. But I tell you what, he put on a hell of a show. That's not ideal. Edward ended up serving three years in prison. He was released on good behavior three years later. So he's a fugitive for 25 years, does three years. Somehow he charms them. He's released again on good behavior. He's still with Jessica throughout this time.

Four years later, he passes away from natural causes. How long did he have left of his original sentence? I mean, he was only in jail for, I mean, he escaped in 1974, so he would have served less than five years. Yeah. He would have had 20 years left on the sentence. Very serious crime. A very serious crime.

Yeah, so he passes away in 2007. And then he escapes that and filled it up. A very serious crime. So he passes away in 2007. As of 2022, Shana and I have ceased touring. As of 2024, Nana, Shah are still touring. Nana and Shah are lived. Yeah. I kind of, I don't really know what the moral of the story is. I tried to find one. You know, I keep thinking like it's a story about invention and about like how nothing

is real, like an invented 1950s and invented rock and roll band, a murderer who invents his identity. I'm not smart enough to come up with a full thesis about it, but I think it says something about America and I think it says something about America And I think that's a bad thing So anyone who's listening who wants to try and find a good thesis in that and maybe get back to us I think that would be nice. Everyone in the story like wants to believe like you know the band wanted to believe like like

people watching the band that's what it was like back then and then When this guy turned up and said Hey, I was in that band and those other wannabe rock stars were like, Oh my God, I love you. And then Yeah, they wanted to be in a band with that guy. And even when they confronted him and he said, No, I'm in the CIA. They're like, Oh, that checks out. I want to keep playing these shows of this guy.

Yeah, you believe what you want to believe. Yeah. And he wanted to he wanted to be something more in his life. But it Yeah, the moral there, I'm only going to jail for three more years. Yeah, that's not good, is it? I mean, that's I mean, it's like obviously America is like the land of the grift where you can just sort of be whoever you want to be. But and the prison system is broken. If they can just let a child murderer just do three years after 25 years of being a fugitive.

But there's something crazy going on there. But whoever whoever wants to make a movie about it, I'd love a nice poignant scene at the end that wraps it all together because I don't have one. But maybe the scene is like Kinko starts his own band or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Kinko and Bender start a band together. Yeah.

Kinko and Bender start a band together. Yeah, Cancel and Bender start a do-what band. Or to the funeral of Ed Elmer and the movie ends, the credits start rolling, but then they freeze, the coffin opens and Elmer's eyes open and he said, still CAO, C-I-A out cia and he went to the camera. He's making again and he misspoke cia quite a few times well that was part of it. And then it says like Elmer Edward Soli will return. Summer 2025. Yeah, future adventures of this murderer. Which was all for CIA, okay?

Yeah, it's all CIA. It's all CIA. What a tale. I've never heard of that. No. That's amazing. Such a fun story. I crazy one. Yeah. It's also weird that there's not much about it out there. There's there's like two long read articles on very obscure true crime blogs. No mainstream. No, I don't like there's no big mainstream New Yorker or Vulture or anything about it. There's no podcasts about it.

To me, it's like, it's absolutely fascinating that this these two worlds combined this bizarre fifties cover band and then like a notorious child murderer. It's like insane. There should be more about it. There should be a movie and maybe they just can't think of the ending either. That's the only thing I think you could almost end it with the cop walking up and being like caught anything. And then just him turning around and seeing, you know, a full the full force of the law behind him. You could just go to credits from that.

Yeah, that's right. You know, and then blooper real. Yes. Is that too much to ask? I love bloopers and I miss them. Blooper reels need to come back. It feels like the 90s and early 2000s. Every movie had a blooper reel. Yeah, so good. So good.

I was watching there's something about Mary recently and that whole credit sequence is the entire cast and crew lip syncing to build me up buttercup by the foundation. Yeah, great. That's how movies should end. Just like even if it's a serious movie, just the whole cast and crew is singing and dancing to a silly song. Yeah.

That's awesome. Anyone but you ends with the whole crew, the cast and crew singing Natasha Bedingfield. So that's good. We do a show about Brent and Fraser, movies of Brent and Fraser. And we watched a cartoon of his and it ended with Gangnam Style. Yeah, like Si, the Korean rapper cartoon came out, starred in Gangnam Style and then the whole cast also animated joined in.

Yeah, yeah. And there was enough. We assumed it was must have been, oh that must have been at the heart, but it was a few years after that song was a bit. But there was another Brandon Fraser movie, Furry Vengeance that ended with the cast all singing. Do you remember that all singing a song and it looked like that they'd spent more money on the post-credit role than the rest of the whole movie. Oh no, that's not good. What was the song? It was it was bad to bring back bloopers.

You don't have to put any extra money into that. They just happen. Yeah, true. Even like Pixar sometimes animate fake bloopers. So funny. That's how good bloopers are. Toy Story 2. Oh, it was. Sorry.

I've looked it up. It was them all singing Insane in the Membrane. That's right. Yeah, that's a. Oh, sorry, I've looked it up. It was them all singing Insane in the Membrane. That's right! Yeah, that's a... Cypress Hill? Yeah, and this movie came out in 2010. Oh my God!

That is crazy. Yeah, fuck. Well, maybe in this movie, let's just end it exactly that way. Like, a bunch of characters coming out. They all sing insane in the membrane. Yeah. Some of them are animated. And I forgot that it's a lot of the it's fairy vendors. There's a lot of animal characters in it.

So it's like owls and stuff singing along as well. Yeah, that's real cool. It's real good stuff. Highly recommend that film. Oh my God. We loved it. And I highly recommend the film, The Rock and Roll Murderer, which we are currently workshopping and pitching, working on a pitch to send around.

If any production companies are listening and want to get in touch, want to partner up on this. Is that what you want us to call this episode? What do you want us to call it? Insane in the membrane. If you could call it that, that would be good. Or just furry vengeance. Yeah, that fits actually. A movie title I've never heard.

I can't believe I've never heard of this movie. It's him and, is it Brooke Shields in that one? Yeah, is that his wife in the movie? Yeah. Oh my God. It's like her comeback to the big screen. Yeah, it was her comeback and it didn't go well. Oh no.

And it's Bren and Fraser is like a, is he a property developer or something? Yeah. And he has a feud with animals. Oh my God. I gotta watch this. Yeah. Do yourself a favor. That's an absolute trait. That was great, Cam. Love that story. Oh man, you killed it. That was such a great story.

Thank you so much. Thanks for having me on go. That was so much fun. I've been wanting to do something with that story for ages. I just love it. It's so crazy. So I was happy I got the opportunity to do it here. And if people want to see you live, where's your tour going? I know you've already done a few shows, but what are the upcoming cities?

Yeah, I've got Canberra coming up, then I'll be in Melbourne for the entire festival. I'll be blowing out those Hanukkah candles every week. Every week, can't wait. Yeah. I've got Brisbane, Sydney and Newcastle left after that as well. And it's a fun show. A lot of big. I've got a big, crazy story that's at the intersection of music and crime in mine as well. There's no child murdering, but there is some wild stuff.

And I got a lot of songs. Yeah, it's a good time. I'd love you guys to come on. Well, I can't wait to see this whole new form of performance that you've invented. Yeah, groundbreaking stuff. Yeah, wild stuff. I hope it takes off in like the 1930s or something like that. Yeah, it's so funny that you're like,

I think I've really made something here and your wife's like, you mean musicals? Yeah, you made musical. You've written a musical, like think I've really made something here. And your wife's like, you made musicals. Yeah. You made, you made musical. You've written a musical. Like, let's call it what it is. And for, for people that aren't in Australia and or can't get to one of the live shows, you've put out a single recently with a full video clip and everything for your track, Boys Night.

I love it. Yeah. I have a Ben, Ben Lee, Australian singer songwriter has been, he's releasing a couple of my comedy songs as singles. Boy's Night is the first one, I've got a music video for it. Currently making a music video for a second song, which is a dick joke basically for three minutes. But it's a fun song.

That'll come out soon. So yeah, please check them out. It's very fun. It's a fun song. That'll come out soon. So yeah, please check them out. It's very fun. It's goofy fun. Yeah, it's been in my head for about three weeks. So catchy. It's a little bit. Maybe do a doo-wop cover of it or something.

Ooh. OK, we could get a four-part harmony going. Yeah, maybe a 12-part. None of us can sing, but we'll try. It's all one part and they all suck. It's a one part and they all suck You guys are doing live shows as well, right? Yes. Thank you so much for asking we're doing three Sunday afternoon string the Melbourne comedy festival

Please come on down to basement comedy club 3 30 p.m. Gonna be a lot of fun Hell yeah, it's gonna be a blast. Well cam you absolutely killed it once again from four great reports. We absolutely love having you on and hope to have you on again soon. But until next time, I guess we'll say thank you and we'll let you go at this point. Yeah. Thanks so much, guys. Thanks for having me and good luck recording the additional Patreon material that you're about to record just with you guys. Everyone's favorite section of the show. Yeah. Now, Cam, do go away.

Bit of fun. Bit of fun. Bit of fun. All right, it's time for everyone's favorite section of the show now that Cam James was flocked off and it's called The Bit of the Show. It doesn't have a name to be honest. This is a bit of the show where we thank our great supporters. Yeah, The Bit of the Show. Love it. Love The Bit of the show doesn't have a name to be honest. This is a bit of the show where we thank our great supporters. Yeah, the bit of the show, love it. Love the bit of the show. And it's everyone's favorite bit of the show because it's where we get to have a bit of fun

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Mum and dad get a coffee and that little boy gets a juice. And the milkshake had been available. And I'm probably. I know, but I know. In the past. I would. She do one for you. In the past, I would. I was embarrassed by getting milkshake. Now I'm like, I did not give a shit. Yeah, but I know. In the past, I would... Where did she do one for you? In the past, I was embarrassed by getting milkshake.

Now I'm like, I did not give a shit. Yeah, live your life. That's what middle age is all about. Yeah, exactly. Why's too short? Letting go of standards. That's right. And shame.

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I've had enough of it. He's on his juice. My God, I'm pinging. What's in this juice? Why am I hands shaking? I'm scared. I'm frightened. So the first thing we do is for people on the Sydney-Scheinberg level, they get to do

something that's called the fact-quotor question. And actually, there's a jingle going somewhere like this. Fact-quotor question. Ding. Hmm. Always remembers the ding. Ah. She always remembers the ding.

Ah. It's always a ding. And the way this one works is if you're on the Sydney-Scheinberg level, you get to give us fact-qu quote or a question. Or, Brega, suggestion or really whatever you like. And I read four of them out each week. And people also get to give themselves a title. I should say I don't read them out until I read them out.

And that is just to forgive me for any flubs or anything that's a bit effed up that they say. A bit on the nose. Yeah. So, and Dave doesn't mean on the nose as in spot on. He means on the nose as in stinks. Yeah, stinky. Not accurate.

It's a confusing saying that, isn't it? It means both accurate and. And stinky. Eft. Yeah. So, for my potty man today. Oh my God. So, the first one this way comes from Rachel Johnson,

AKA the last coconut that was available. Now, sometimes still thinking about Rachel Johnson was once ham sandwich. That's a good bit when just the memory of the bit is given. The last coconut. That could be so, so. This is so good. The last coconut available. OK, Rachel Johnson has given us a joke.

Yeah, love a joke. Anna, please. Because we're filming these now, I'm like, these joke things. You see them blow up. They go viral. So I'm going to read the joke to you. And you have to not try to laugh. Is that the thing that has been?

The best thing to do, I think with any kind of social media is to try really hard to go viral and to like copy what other people are doing. This worked a year ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think authenticity is out. Hashtag best of 2022. All right, here's the joke.

Hashtag dash hand. All of that, no, no, that lead up will go in. Okay. Because we're being authentic from now. Are we trying not to laugh? Well, no, you got, I think the trick is trying not to laugh but laughing. Got it. Okay.

Yeah, I got it. I'm already laughing. Hey, drama degree. I want to see that in action. Let's go. All right. So Rachel Johnson has given us a joke and it goes like this. Dave. Dave. I'm trying. has given us a joke and it goes like this Dave Dave you gotta hear the joke

before you you decide if it's funny or not okay what do you call a man with custard in one ear and jelly in the other I don't know Matt what do you call a man with custard in one ear and jelly in the other a trifle death and jelly in the other. A trifle death. Because it trifles a dessert made with custard and jelly. Yeah. I don't think Jess got it though. I love a trifle.

Are we gonna do it? Are we gonna viral? I think that could go big. Are we viral right now? I've just seen a number thing ticking over. Yeah, yeah. And it is going quick. Thanks so much, Rachel.

Love a joke. A joke's always welcome. Yeah. Anything's welcome in the fact quite a question. It can be anything you want it to be. I thought that was fantastic question. That was great. Love it. Thank you, Rachel. A trifle of death.

The last coconut. Because a trifle also means a little bit. A little bit? Yeah. I'm a little deaf. I'm a trifle deaf. That's fun. That is fun. All right. Next one comes from Patrick J. Ealy. Oh. And PJ E. AKA Chief Executive Detective Inspector of Effectively Detecting Defective Detectors. Oh my God. See sometimes they try to stump him and he just barrels through you to speak.

And then other times he says like he can't say his own name. It doesn't make any sense. You would think you could stump him easily with a tongue crystal and he just no problem through that and then he can't say like Matthew like he just Matthew. It's amazing. Matthew is a... I did it. That's a tricky name. That's why I shot at the metal all those years ago. Maybe I can lengthen it out once again. I wouldn't. I don't think you can something about like his dicks too old to work now.

It doesn't lengthen anymore. Something like that's pretty good. There's a joke in there. I don't know. Rachel Johnson, if you could put those pizzas together and send that back in joke form, that would be fantastic. You put those pizzas together. Oh my God. He did. So that's in joke form. That would be fantastic. You put those pizzas together. Oh my God.

He did. See, that's what I mean. You get those pizzas together, you get a margarita, but with mushrooms. You get a half and half and that's a dollar extra for some reason. All right. Patrick's question is, hey, mates, is there anything that people say to you all the time that you get really sick of hearing? of hearing is so talented beautiful intimidated by your eyes. Yeah I just like I know but I'm here man.

Yes Dave's normally like staring in through their window when they say that. Dimitrate by your eyes that's all I can say of you. And it's intimidating. It's intimidating. As always, I request the question askers to give a question answer. Great. And Patrick's done that saying, I'm really tall, 6'8 or 202 centimeters. 6'8. Is that what you... Sorry. I bet it is the question how tall are you?

Yeah. Oh, or... What's the weather like up there? Do you play basketball? Yeah, all right. Let's see. They're three of the big ones. Oh, or I got a tall friend and one time it was a train station.

It was probably one of the three stories I tell on this podcast. But he was at a train station off the footy and, you know, I was packed out and crowded and someone, he's on, you know, a platform at Southern Cross Station and a woman is standing next to him on the phone going, yeah, I'm over here. I'm waving. I'm next to the freakishly tall man. Adding freakishly does it. Tall man in a blue jumper.

He's very tall. You'll see him. He's so, he's so tall. He's freakishly tall. His ears are so far away. He'll never hear this. Don't worry. I'm standing next to the freak. No, not that freak, the tall freak. Not the smelly freak. Can you start waving? Patrick says, almost without fail, every day of my life a complete stranger will point out to me as if it's brand new information. It got old about 15 years ago, so you can imagine my feelings about it now.

This is the tall. You don't get shorter. You do a bit, but not enough today. It happened three times. Anyway, I try to be friendly about it, but as soon as I look away at my eyes roll so hard, I might as well be playing marbles. That's good. This is a joke. Drake section.

No, I think this is the grub section. Hope you're all staying safe and well. I can only assume Dave is especially safe and well since I haven't heard anything to the country yet. Dave's fine. I'm alive. I'm still fine. Love you lots and thanks as always for what you do. Hey, Patrick, thanks for you.

See, it's unbelievable. Thanks you. Thanks you. Patrick, thanks to you. Patrick, thanks to us. Patrick, thanks to you, as in Dave and Jess. Or the other listeners. Who is Patrick thanking?

Who's he thanking? He said thank you. I feel for Patrick and I just want to apologize on behalf of all people that you get asked that so often because that must be so fucking tedious. I have a cousin who's probably, I think, a very similar height to you and he gets it a lot and it's very annoying. I'm very average in everything so I don't get commented.

I'm invisible actually. You'd welcome questions. I'd welcome just being acknowledged quite genuinely. I get cut off a lot walking, driving, everything. People will just walk into me all the time. But you feel invisible even when driving? Yeah, it happens when driving and that's really concerning. But walking along, I just I'm invisible. So there's that.

I think that, OK. You do drive an invisible car, though. And that's my problem. Yeah, OK. It's a question in Wonder Woman's car. And what they can't just let me in. Hello invisible you. Oh, sorry, don't answer that. My bad.

To answer your question, what are my sick of people? What is the question? Was it asking or saying? Yeah, asking or saying. Any of the people say to you all the time that you get really sick of hearing. What is the question? Is it asking or saying? Yeah, asking or saying. Any of the people say to you all the time that you get really sick of hearing. I get a bit sick of people commenting on my dog's name. Okay.

But that's my own fault because I named him a dumb name. Mm-hmm. But I get a lot of, where's Maverick? Because his name is Goose. People think it's a top gun thing. Jesus. Or it's old people love to go, that's Jesus doesn't look much like a like a goose. Where is wings stuff like that funny that laugh you know.

And I roll my eyes walk away I can have a good day. I complain to you two about things. Do I have a complaint about some of this? You get a, people say, how do you get a beard like that or something like that? Oh yeah. You're kind of like, well, just, I just let it grow. I grow a beard. Yeah, I don't remember being annoyed by that, but yeah, that's, people probably do ask that.

Yeah. Hey. People think you drink more than you do? Oh yeah, that's true. I think I'm a drunk. Yeah. But I mean, again, I'll probably put that forward. You're only a binge drunk. My problem is that it's the only time I think to post anything on social media.

Dave, you sick of people assuming you're a virgin? Correctly. Yeah, I don't hate being reminded of it. I think it's not that annoying, but the thing that people frequently say is like if you know, eating a pie or something and they go, oh, dude, you're lucky to be so thin. Yeah. That kind of thing. Just commenting on like, you know, eating crap food and still being quite thin.

That's strange. Is it? It's strange to comment on. I don't really care that much, but that's just something that's just a common comment to me. Don't comment on anything. Anybody's eating. It's crazy, isn't it? Yeah.

I think sometimes people just think they need to say something. You don't. You got to fill the air until you die. Just shut up. How about that? That's my advice. Shut up. Yeah. Just shut up. How about that? That's my advice. Shut up. Just the last.

Yeah. Stop ignoring Jess. Stop ignoring me. Shut up. And shut up. Thank you. That's all. Jesus.

And Dave wants you to. Leave him alone. Leave him alone. Just in general. If he's eating pie. Let the boy eat. Let the boy eat his pie. Yeah.

He's furious. Or buy me a second pie. Yeah. Yeah. That would be good. Now I'll show you how lucky I am. let the boy eat his pie. Yeah, he's furious or buy me a second pie. Yeah, that would be good. Now I'll show you how lucky I am. I'm going to eat another pie. If their comment was, would you like another one? And I would say yes, please. That's the perfect exchange.

Beautiful. Sorry, we didn't have any. I had a great answer. Fuck you. Sorry, we had dog shit answers for that one. I had a fantastic answer. Sorry. Dave. Just I'm invisible again.

Dave, your answer was fine. But yeah, sorry, I genuinely answered the dog shit. And we also apologize for people commenting on your height. That's very annoying. Yeah. We feel for you. You big old freak. It definitely is them just being like,

well, I need to say something. But you don't always. You can say how's it going. A tall person knows they're tall. You know, yeah, leave him alone. Next one comes from McCalla McCray, OK, Clarence. On a recent recording episode in Tassie of Who Knew It with Anthony Morgan, my comedy hero. Yeah, that's awesome.

And I told him some reason Clary came up, and I told on the pod the story of how my uncle and his mates used Clarence's shorthand for the C-bomb. They started as Clarence Hunt, became Clarence and Clary, and he goes, oh, you've told me that before. I'm like, we've met like four times. I said, I've only got three stories. I think one of them is my friend Dan is really tall.

Did you segue into the freak on the platform? Oh, was it Dan? Yeah, yeah. He is tall. Now I get it, he is a freak. Oh, that's freak. Yes, yes, yes. No, now that story makes even more sense

because it's Dan the tall freak. Anyway, Michaela, okay, Clarence, all right. Mates, have you, especially you Matt, listened to Tism's new EP, The Sea Word, from mid-December last year. I've just got my bum into gear and had a listen and I'm bloody loving it. Do yourselves a favour. And if you haven't already, get this into your ear holes and I'd love to hear your thoughts. Oh, it's like a question slash suggestion, I guess, or like a recommendation. It's a great EP. It's only four tracks and one of them's like the extended version of one of the

other tracks. Oh. And yeah, a lot of C bombs because the album's called the C word. Yeah, that makes sense, I guess. But I have listened to it a lot and also they played it. I saw him in Tazza. That's what I was in Tazzy for. And they played the C word, one of the tracks off that EP. And they played a couple of other new songs, I believe, that as yet unreleased.

Cool. I didn't know that they had put out new music. That's great. Oh, man, I think probably my favorite song from last year was a Came out as a single before that EP called I've Gone Hillsong and It is so good Like it's so catchy the guitar riff is like it's a real earworm, but it's awesome and the C words another super catchy earworm as well Bit of Italian I think in there. Cut, so cut, so cut, so. It's good stuff.

Beautiful stuff. I get. I understand all the all the references. Of course, as always with autism songs, I get it. Yeah, I understand it. Don't need any explanation. Don't ask me any follow up questions, but I get it. And I get it.

I did have to go to Google Translate and it's funny stuff. But thank you for that question, Antip Mikhail. Yeah, that is awesome. I haven't heard it but I will listen. The last track on it, the extended one, it's an epic. It's got this big build. There's like a sax solo. Awesome. It's a lot of fun. And it's all about that song sort of all about that, that song that is. So the C words, the one with the time, but the other ones, get ready to bleep this A.J. And it's all about, you know, modern online discourse, I suppose.

You might say it's slower. So it's because he, because surely he would have had to beep out the verses there as well. Oh, V. There it is. And it's about, you know, like, at both sides of the arguments online, it's like, who are you going to, whose side do you want to be on when it's cunts, v cunts? I've forgotten what it's called. Is it cunts, v cunts? Cunts, v cunts.

Ah. Sounds good. I'll look it up. Yeah. I'm just typing it into Spotify now. V cunts. How do I'm just typing into Spotify now. V. How do I type beep into Spotify? Dave's foot special headphones.

I've got live beep because we don't want our precious boy. I'm trying to type it in getting corrupted. It says you are not old enough to listen to this music. We should add that to the list of topics that have ended up more news about the topic after we did them because Tism were finished when we did that. They were done forever. How many years ago was that you did the Tism report? I must have been, I reckon it was three or four years ago probably. Oh I have no idea.

I would say maybe longer. Yeah maybe, I honestly have no idea. But yeah, they broke up in 2004. Yeah right. Episode 176 March 2004. Yeah right. Episode 176 March 2019. Yeah, what's that five years ago? Yeah almost exactly.

A couple of days ago at the time of recording five years ago. That's crazy. And then yeah about four and a half years after that they reformed and doing live shows again. Yeah that's great. Awesome. I'm glad you got to see them over the weekend. Oh man that was so good. Thank you, Michaela.

Always happy to talk about Tism, would you believe it? Then the final one this week comes from Nathan Damon. OK, group dad. I wasn't sleeping. I was just resting my eyelids. My dad says I was just checking my eyelids for gaps. Haven't heard it in a while. I feel like Nathan Damon is cosplaying as your dad in these in his.

Nathan's doing a pretty bloody good job to be honest. I've met Nathan and he like I reckon he'd get on pretty well with your old man. Squire. I don't know if that's a compliment to Nathan. I mean it's a slug. Yeah. All right, Squire. Good day to you, Nathan.

Probably he, because I met him and he said that he saves up episodes to listen on his long journey. So he drives that huge truck. Yeah, the road train. Yeah, but even bigger than all road trains. It had like an insane number of wheels. Yeah, it's not legal on. Not legal on, not road legal.

Yeah. Street legal. Crazy. Anyway, he writes, oh, it's a shout out. Hi, gang. Today, I'd like to give a shout out to Ash Yates, who is a fellow patron here in the greatest state on earth, Western Australia. Great state.

Uh, I got to chatting to Ash when I realized that she was friends with someone I used to work with. It's such a small world. During our chat, Ash mentioned that she hoped that you guys would bring the pod back to Perth soon. I tend to agree with it. What do we do wrong? Why don't you like us?

Well, at least Matt likes us. Anyway, big hello to Ash. And as always, I love your work. Although, on my most recent time, I did cancel at the last minute. Well, that was COVID related and not your fault and I won't hear anything otherwise. But we'd love to come back. I mean, we talk about all the time, Perth, Adelaide, Hobart, we talk about all these things all the time, Canberra, Brisbane, Sydney. New Zealand.

Yeah, definitely. And it's the kind of thing that when all of us have the gap in our schedules, we'll get it happening. And Perth is the extended flight, which means it costs more, so we have to do a bit more planning. Yeah, it's just a bit more, yeah, we have to get those flights booked in advance. Yeah, but we have booked the flights in advance, and otherwise, we're doing the one where we're leaving at midnight there, and because of the time difference, landing at home at 8 AM. I won't do it.

I did it once, and I hated it. But the good thing is that we'd be losing money on the on the trip. That is good. That is the good news. But what a great time we had the one time we went. Oh, so good. Ice creams. Ice cream. Shut your lid you toilet. We just yelled the whole way home. Yep, I heard you coming. I would be annoyed half of Norwich. I was already home and I heard that coming. I said, oh, here they are. Sorry. No. Perth.

I wasn't asleep. Sorry, Jess. I was up. I was doing cool shit. But I love Perth. And yeah, there's great venues there that we could go to. I did the Who Knew It over there in Oasis Comedy Club. There's also the comics.

Where do we go? The lounge. The lounge, which is great. Comedy lounge and a couple of it. So yes, it's definitely the Brisbane Hotel. Definitely keep keep bringing it up. But we it is in the back of our minds as well. We talk about it all the time.

We don't hate you. No, we love you. We love you. Sorry to say that too soon. Yeah, we're trying to play it cool, but it's hard because you're so fucking smoking out of the best state in the world. You're so fucking cool. God damn you. Thank you so much, smoking all the best state in the world. I do, so fucking cool. God damn you.

Thanks so much. Nathan, Michaela, Patrick and Rachel. The next thing we like to do is shout out to a few of our other great supporters. Yeah, that's right. This is only just beginning our move section, which feels like it's going to be a long one tonight. But yeah, Jess, you want me to come up with a game? We shout out nine more people now.

What do you reckon today? Well, Cam said the name for this episode would be the Rock and Roll Murderer, right? Yeah. So what if we gave them some kind of cool title like that? Maybe not Murderer. Yeah, yeah. But maybe a genre of music. Oh, that's fun. So genre first and then like a something. Yeah. I like that.

A noun. Alright. Maybe I can kick us off then with the first three. I'd love to thank from fishes in the great state of Indiana in the United States. It's Charity Rose Elkins. Charity Rose Elkins. See how this is going to be. Whatever we do here is going to be worse than Charity Rose Elkins. Yeah.

What about the the? Hip hop Okay, the hip hop frog hip hop frog. Okay. I said hip hop I hit I think I'm getting closer understanding what this what this I said a hip hop a rib a ribbit the next one thing I'm so charity what a beautiful name hip-hop frog feels like it's step back huge downgrade yeah sorry they just warming up give me chance okay the next circle back around I love to thank from New York in it great

Britain that's where the that's the Viking country is. Remember we met those handsome Vikings? We hear it's posh. You wouldn't stop telling them how handsome they were. Whoa, what do you do when you meet a handsome person? Oh no. You keep telling them how handsome they are. Yeah, they're sick of it. Actually, yeah, no, I want to change my answer from before.

I'm sick of people stopping me in the street and being like, you are stunning. You're a handsome Viking. And I say, thank you, but I'm just trying to do my groceries. Please. I'm on the phone. And when you say doing your groceries, you're talking like a zucchini or something. All right. So.

So. The next one. Jesus cross reaction made me feel really bad. This way, you know, you've got to. This way you know you've gone too far. Okay, there's a line. Jesus cross. Pull your fuck net in. I'm just doing my groceries.

It just was. That's a normal thing that people say. Oh yeah, I've never heard it. Never heard it before. Oh, not in this context. I'm doing the shopping, by which I mean a carrot. I thought I'd tone it down by switching from cucumber to zucchini, but... A classier type dish.

It's a little soft. It's not what you want. Soft is not good. It's just mushes. Have I even got to the end? From York and Great Britain. What is that? William Hamilton. What about the jazz?

Grosser. Oh yeah. That's good. I like the innuendo. The jazz grosser, that's a drug dealer. That's a weed dealer. Yeah, that's right. Jazz. You know a weed dealer. Yeah, that's right. Jazz, you know, like,

jazz cigarettes and a grocer. Or like the Honda Jazz, which is the drug dealer's car. Yeah. Jazz, isn't funny. Jazz is just like, it's a music. Wow. But it has become somehow a euphemism for marijuana. Oh, that interesting.

Marijuana. Very interesting. But he can't say Hanukkah. Marahanaka. Yeah, if anyone knows how to say it, let me know. I did look it up in our coffee break and the tutorial said it like I say it, so I'm confused. Anyway, from Ashland, oh my God, in God's country itself, Ohio, please thank, oh my God, what a name, from Ashland. Oh my God in God's country itself Ohio. Please think. Oh my God.

What a name. Brandon Klinker. Cheers. Oh yeah. OK. What about the? The grimy the grimy cheers. The grime grime cheers grime. The grime cheers. No, that's no good. But grime is definitely good starting. OK. Grime the grime. The Grime Cheers. No, that's no good. But Grime is definitely a good starting.

Okay, great. Yeah, Grime, the Grime. What's the second? I figure what you said the second part has to be. Just like a noun. Oh, okay. Yeah, cheers is not a noun. So I missed it by a quarter of a beat.

What about like the Grime skateboard? Oh, the Grime skateboard. Skateboarder. Grime skateboarder. Okay, great. Because the first one was Murderer. You know, so I'm just... Okay, yeah. It's like their title type thing, you know.

Okay. The Grime Skateboarder. Okay, yep. I think we got it. I think that's pretty good. I did say we're going to start off slow. Grime Skateboard's better. Grime Skateboard's better.

All right, yeah, no, we'll get this. We'll get this. We'll get this. I mean, again, Brandon Klinker is... In my head, I was going cheers for Klinker, like, cheersing the glasses. That's where the Klinker... was going to use the clinker like she's in the glasses. Yeah, that's where the clinker. But I forgot that that is not. Well, this has been a tougher one.

All right. Shall I thank some people? I think we go back from the top. Let's start again. But I'm going to thank some people. OK. I would like to thank from. I would like to thank. OK. She's on the other foot now, isn't it?

You feel like a big man over there? Jesus Christ. What's what happens? Don't worry, Jess, we've got him on the ropes now. He's questioning everything. It's only funny when you do it, mate. When everybody else does it, it's just a normal human thing. Yeah, when it's on, I'll stop, stop.

You're just kicking someone while they're down. When it's you, you deserve everything. You fucking shred of it. Yeah. Maybe he's down. What can we find? A deeper hole to push him in. Sorry, Jess. Thank you, David.

You absolute angel of podcasting. I would love to thank some people. Yeah. I'd like to thank from Ilkston or Ilkston in Great Britain, Dan May. Dan May. Dan May. Okay, what about the Rockabilly? The bargain hunter. Now we're talking. That's good. That is good.

They call me the Rockabilly bargain hunter. That rules. Goes around to vintage fairs, finds all sorts of cool stuff, flips it, makes a lot of money on it. Everyone's like, oh, she's got such a good eye for it. Damn, my Rockabilly bargain hunter. Oh, that felt good in my ears. You're a massage a part of my brain that had been massaged. I would also like to thank from Squamish. Oh my God.

In Canada. Squamish. I'm definitely saying that wrong, but it does ring a bell. I would like to thank Gooch McNutt. I mean, it was written there in front of you, Dave, but it's still really got you. Oh, it's funny. I've never heard that word out loud before. Gooch McNutt. I've heard it seen that written down so many times.

Gooch McNutt, you know? You sometimes can see a word, but you just never heard that one. Gooch McNutt's from Squamish. It's amazing. Gooch McNutt's. Oh, genre of music. The electro punk. Yes.

Electric punk conductor. Oh, that's good. Yeah. So it's got a bit of an extra thing with electricity conduction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Train conductor. That's smart.

Holy shit. Gouge McNutt's. I mean, I would have said, how can you top Gouge McNutt's, but we did. We just did it. We just did it. Oh, and by the way, just for the English bill,

I just saw, how did you say this one? You know how English words are always, never what they look like. It the English people, I just saw, how did you say this one? You know how English? English words are always never what they look like. It'll be like, Ilksten. Ilksten. Ilksten. Ilksten. You actually, that's pretty close.

I think I said like Ilksten, Ilksten, Ilksten. Ilksten. Ilksten. All right, so if you were midway through a tweet, backspace, backspace, backspace, my friend, and never come for me again. Never come for the queen. And next I would like to thank from Win... Never come for the queen. Don't chop that out of context.

It's not good laugh advice. Come for the queen if she wants you to. You know what? But only if she's asked. Only if she's asked. We can't stress that enough. Can't stress that enough. Always come for the queen if requested.

Yeah, when instructed. Next I would like to thank from Winter Park in Florida. I was talking about the Queen of England as well there. From Winter Park in Florida. From Winter Park in Florida. I would love to thank Lauren Boy. Lauren Boy, the new wave. Oh, hair.

Dresser. Oh, okay. I like that when we say each other. It's a new wave hairdresser. New wave hairdresser. Like that. Can only imagine what Lauren's hair is. Pretty cutting edge. New wave.

Yeah. Am I thinking, am I remembering this right that like a cheap brand of hair gel was called new wave? Possibly, yeah. That does ring a bell. Yeah, like with a purple or red lid and clear. Purple, pinky lid and it's clear and it's really goopy. Yeah. That does ring a bell with a purple or red lid and clear pink. You live and it's clear and it's really goopy. Yeah.

Super goopy. Super greasy. New wave hair gel. Yeah. Something like that. I reckon. Yeah. I can see the logo even maybe was like a gel like a was

it someone's face in profile and then like a few lines for their representing their hair? I think that was, yeah, it's a, it's a, that's a brand, but that might have been, that product might have been called new wave. I don't think new wave was the brand. Oh, okay. Vague memory. It does.

Yeah, it's a vague, very vague memory. Um, Dave, do you want to thank some people as well? I'd love to, but I'm not looking at new wave here, Joe. All right, let's stop this madness. No, no, no, you take it on when you're ready. I like to think I'm ready from Seven Hills, New South Wales, Leia or Leah XX. Oh, what about some death metal?

Oh, yeah. Death metal princess. I like it. How good is that? Death metal princess. XX. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Thank you so much. And I would like to thank from Crane Brook, also on New South Wales, it's Dan Parker. The, um,

Folk Juggler. Folk Juggler. That does sound like a murderer somehow. Yeah. None of the words point to a bit of murder, but it sounds like a murder. They call me the folk juggler. They call me the folk juggler. And I'm going for your juggler.

I think you could almost say anything in that voice and it would be scary. I think you could do like wedding vows in that and I'd be like, uh-huh. Do you take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife? Oh my God, I hate that. It sounds like you're about to pronounce me man and knife. It's the best, it's the best line that has ever been written. Do you think when they wrote that they just like high fived, shut the laptops left?

Like they would have just emailed it to all staff. Check out what I've just written. Yeah, that is so good. More if the rest of the script. Build the movie around it. It's so good. I'd find what I like from Nottingham in Great Britain, or Nottingham, it's Hattie Bacon.

Oh my God. The show tune strangler. Oh, yeah. I love it. Hattie Bacon. Is this our best ever batch of names? We started with Charity Rose and finished with Hattie Bacon. Yeah, and everything in the middle was good stuff.

Yeah, we had Clinker in there, Gooch McNutt's of course. Yeah. Leah. Really good stuff. Thank you so much to Hattie Dan, Leah, Lauren, Gooch, Dan, Brandon, William and Charity. And the final thing we need to do is welcome a few people into the triptych club. Now, this bit of theater of the mind, people have been signed up on the shout out level or above for three straight years.

They get welcomed right into the triptych club. I'm standing at the door. I've got my clipboard. I've got four names on the list this week. Just behind the bar. She's working on sometimes snacks, sometimes a cocktail, sometimes both. Yep. Dave's Book to Ban Who, what have we got that served tonight?

Poppa. I just got some chips and salsa. Oh, great. Yeah, I didn't have time, so I just went to the supermarket. Well, that's honestly a relief. We haven't been able to eat in a while, getting a little bit hungry. Just want to check on the temperature spice wise of the salsa, first of all. Spice wise, it is too hot.

Okay. It is. It's spicy. Yeah, it's like, it's white. We're very white. Okay. But it's too hot. And what can I just, it's room temperature though. It is ice cold.

Oh. Yeah. So it's very cold temperature wise, but it, because I put it in the freezer. I might just have the chips by themselves. Okay. They're fresh though. I think that might be, is that? Yeah, it was this. They're fresh though. I think that might be. Is that?

Yeah, it was this. They're fresh though. Uh, yep. Not too hot. They are quite spicy. Okay. I'm not entirely sure what you guys want from me, to be honest. Uneniable.

Uneniable. Uh, digestible. Can I ask you a quick question? I have a fact-quotile question. Can I share it? Can I share it? Okay, so I saw this on a TikTok and I, I, we talked about it for ages last night as we went to sleep. Okay, so on one of your hands, doesn't matter which hand, each five fingers can dispense one beverage.

What are the five beverages? Coffee. Yep. Water. Yep. Great start. Orange juice. Beer. Do I have to be specific? Probably.

It can probably only be one beer. One beer is better than no beer, isn't it? But here's the thing too. You can still go buy drinks. Other drinks still exist. These are just like what you have on tap ready to go. I think my go-to is in like the, the card you crush. Yep.

Tropical pale. Great. But I don't know if that's anyway. And then last one. Scotch. You've done very well. Okay. No, I just mean like decisive for you.

Right. Normally it's like, well, let me think about it. And, uh, and we'll be here for four hours. And that's it. So I'm impressed. And that's great answers. I'm saying like a really good Scotch. Yeah. I don't know what that would be, but just something so good you've never even been able to have it. Yeah. Yeah. You've got it. But whatever you want it. It's time to be on your wildest dreams.

And that one's worth quite a bit of cash. I'm just like, you know, go to music festivals and people lining up at the bar. I'm just setting up my little store in the background. Want a little pinky whiskey? Yep. Have a little. Straight in the mouth. Easy. Yeah.

Better for the environment. No cups. Exactly. No plastic. Dave. Okay. I'm going to go water one. Yep.

Uh, full cream milk to. Okay. Uh, OJ. Yep. I probably also have a beer, some sort of pale beer in there. Mm-hmm. Number five I've been thinking about this. Is this allowed? Hollandaise sauce. Well, it's not a beverage. Well, this was the way I drink it. That's gross. Um, okay, if I kind of have that. How could you want that Hollandaise on it? Hollandaise on it. Hollandaise on it. Whatever you put down, I'm

Hollandaising it. Can't even say it's that too many times. I guess I could allow holandising if it's that important too. If it wasn't, if that's not possible, I'd probably also have a coffee, even though I don't drink it, but I could bring a lot of joy to other people like my wife and things who drink coffee every day. Yeah. You want a coffee? Absolutely.

There you go. But then would it get annoying with people asking me for coffees all the time? Oh yeah, I guess it'd be annoying with all of those. Yeah. Yeah, maybe a smarter to just have awful drinks. Bin water. But then you don't even get to benefit. Because I was thinking like, what do I spend the most money on? What's going to save it? He's my initial list.

I did end up having to change one of them just for like logic, but this was just the fun answer. I would go water, coffee, like hot coffee, but also an iced coffee. I'd have an iced latte one and a hot coffee one at any time. That's a good idea. Because I, you know, I drink more hot coffee, but when you want an iced latte, nothing better. And they're usually more expensive. Then I would go like a soft drink, maybe just like a lemonade, like a little bit of fizz. And then the last one,

margarita. Oh, that's good. I'm not thinking that I should sub beer out for a peanut colada. Yeah. That would be more fun. Because even if you think about it too, you kind of go, if I went to a bar, I could just buy, because I could go vodka or something. I can't drink wine and stuff like that. So that's pointless. You just be quietly in the corner with a class going,

Skip. But if you think like I'd like a vodka, well, then you can just buy that. But a margarita is always going to be more expensive, isn't it? So. And it would be the perfect mug for you. You'd work out the system. Exactly right. But one of those you had to sub out? Yeah, I ended up subbing out the iced coffee for like a meal replacement shake or a protein shake type thing.

Oh my gosh. Just put hole in there. I didn't even think about yeah, banana smoothie or something Yeah, I'm gonna get enough protein, you know, so and I think you just let you la take your cold put some ice No, it's not the same. I don't mind. I'm happy to drink a cold coffee. I think I want to just go with my first answer Because it brought me joy. I want both coffees in there Fuck it. But you make iced coffee by putting hot coffee on ice, don't you? Yeah, and cold milk.

Oh, you can have one of my fingers. My index finger's ready to go. I don't want one of your fingers, mate. Not how you say it like that. I think, yeah. Oh, it's good bringing you a meaning to finger of Scotch. Um, and when my dad said to me that time, we still talking about scotch.

I said, dad, dad, do you understand? So we're sitting, we just been, we'd had a pretty big day and we went out to a concert and we came back and we're just having a nightcap at his place and I'm pouring the scotch and I go two or three fingers and he's like, we're still talking about Scotch. Do you understand? Dad, just, just tell me what you just think you've said. Cause if you were saying that to like, you know, somebody you were flirting with,

maybe that would be a bit cheeky, but to me, your son. I thought it was very funny. Anyway, that's a great hypothetical. Feel free to ask your friends. I've never heard that one. I told that story one night in Adelaide and the crowd were like, yeah, not one for the one for public consumption. So say it on the podcast. That's good.

But we know your dad. Yeah. I mean, it was it was just trying to do one of those, you know, that and not in that order. That's what she said. Yeah, not thinking of not thinking of it through to the point of you the alternative would be pretty fucked up. Anyway, we've got four people coming in today. I think in the in the patreon group on Facebook Someone's got to remember to start up the chat. What would your five fingers be? Yeah.

Anyway. I've booked a band. I booked a band. Who we got? You never gonna believe it. Cam came on this week. So that was gonna be music topic. I was like, oh, that's a bit of a coincidence

because I usually book a band and they're music. Music act usually. And I was like, well- A band is music. Yeah, I thought that's as big as the coincidence we'll get. Yeah. And then he said, and that didn't tweak for me. But then he said, and I know and that didn't that didn't tweak for me.

But then he said, Johnny Casino and the gamblers, they're here to know. Oh my God. Playing all their grease mega hits. That's awesome. And maybe the grease mega mix. I don't know. Perfect.

Played at every function. So enjoy. Oh, that's very exciting. All right, Dave. Now you're on stage. Sure. I'm seeing you're hosting. You're going to hype up these four names or read out.

Just going to hype you up because you know don't worry I've already got my hand on his bum okay so first up yeah it's comforting it's good especially now that'm gonna what? I'm gonna what? Okay, come on. Let's go. Let's walk at least. They've been waiting here all night these people. If you're here now, please step forward from Arlington in Texas in the American States.

You know how to do it. It's Joel Acklin. Joel, you make me feel whole. From Chansod West in Queensland, Australia. It's Caroline Clancy. Caroline Clancy. Two impressions in one. Is that enough?

Very good. Don't worry about it. You said outcast, did you say that? Yeah, you got awesome. Impressive. You're saying a word from the song. From, no, no, no, stop, stop, stop. Caroline, I'm feeling fine.

From? Clancy, I'm feeling fancy. Yes. From Earlville in Illinois in the United States. It's John Mulligan. John Mulligan, you make me feel young again. Yes. Do you want to take a Mulligan on that one, mate?

From, that means having another shot at it. A bit of fun. And from Montrose. Unbelievable. Is that true? Yeah. So in golf, if you have a Mulligan. You can say, I'll take a Mulligan on that one.

Oh, fine. I will actually. John, I feel on to have you here tonight. Is that not a mainstream term? I never heard it, but it made so much sense that I couldn't believe it was real. Thank you. And finally from Montrose here in Victoria, it's Craig McQueen. Craig, you are my mick king. Thank you so much, Craig, John, Caroline and Joel please make yourselves at home.

Hey, just wanted to say sorry about all this. Yeah, sorry about all this. We're still a bit excited Dave's back and we can't stop talking. And I won't. We had a coffee. And Dave had a juice. Obviously that's a big deal. And we should have said it but yeah, Jess squirted these drinks out of her fingers.

I didn't have juice on one of mine, so I don't ask him what his is. Oh my God. What's that red juice you squirted? My current juice is not good, my friend. Jesus Christ. Hey, well if you want to support us on Patreon, we're about to record a bonus episode, so friend. Hey, well, if you want to support us on Patreon, we're about to record a bonus episode. So who knows how loose that will be. By the time you're hearing this, it will be up.

So that's something to look forward to as well as two hundred other bonus episodes in the back catalog. So get on there, patreon.com slash do go on pod. But is that all we've got to say? Just that we love them, that you can suggest a topic at dogoonpod.com or there's a link in the show notes and you don't have to be a patron to suggest the topic anybody can. So get in there, get involved. Get in there. Get in there, have some fun. If you think you've been missed on a shout out, let us know. Yep.

Let us know via the patron DMs. that's the best place to contact me. And if supporting us on Patreon isn't something that you can do, that's okay. There's lots of other ways to support podcasts like us on social media, follow us along there, tell your friends about it. Yeah, like the Guardian said recently, we've been going too long to be not that popular. It was quite nice. And it was like top five podcasts. Let's do this weekend. I took it as a nice thing, but I'm like, oh, could we be more popular?

Should we be bigger? Is that popular? So yeah, tell people about us. That would be really lovely. And we love you, Dave Booted Home. Hey, comedy festivals coming up in just a few weeks. Go see Cam Show. Can't recommend him highly enough enough we're doing some live pods

Matt's doing his stand-up show with syringe I'm on a previous guest that we all absolutely love so get along dry dryer dry dryer comedy festival comm.com daddy you for ticker saw that sort of stuff but apart from that also thank you so much for listening we'll be back next week and until then it's goodbye We'll be back next week and until then, it's goodbye! Light us! Bye! Jesus cross! Ha ha ha ha!

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