Do Go On - 447 - The Sinking of The Trashman

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

This episode takes us back to the 80s, when a group of sailors in their early 20s got a dream job - sailing a millionaire's yacht from Maine to Florida. But this voyage was anything but a dream ... This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 08:03 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Watch Do Go On The Quiz Show: https://youtu.be/GgzcPMx1EdM?si=ir7iubozIzlzvWfKSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our merch: https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/  Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/lost-at-sea/I Shouldn’t Be Alive S1 E1 https://www.newsweek.com/we-just-hear-this-shrill-scream-then-it-was-over-sharks-1760348https://www.mamamia.com.au/shark-attack-stories/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Scaling_Kiley Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of DoGo One. My name is Dave Warnocky, and as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Number one, baby. Yes.

Oh, okay. I'm like, do we just hit the top of the radius? Number one of the charts, baby, we did it. You know how, yeah, FM radio shows if they hit the top? They're like so ostentatious about like, yeah, number one. We should definitely do that. 34 on the iTunes charts. 34, baby.

You know what I love, Dave, about how you start the show is? You say your name and I go, that's right. Because every episode, I'm like, Who's this thing? This guy is so familiar. Who is that? I need a context clue. We're in this room.

I know him from somewhere. How do I know this man? I know, he's got something to adjust. Yeah. But, and then you say, I'm Dave Warnaker. That's it. That's Dave Warnocky. That's Dave Warnikey.

And this is the Dug-Go-on podcast, or have you say that. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnocky and as always, I'm here with and he switches up the order so we don't get pissy. And then I say, oh, wait, what's my name again? And then you say and it's so good. And I point. Dave, Matt. You were so good at to explain that.

Would you be as good at explaining the show? Wow. Yeah, for sure. So basically what we do here at Doogon, the name of the program is we take it in terms to report on a topic. The program that's number one, baby. A topic often suggested to us by one of the listeners. We go away, do a little bit of research, then bring it back to the group in a report. And the other two, they don't know what the topic's going to be.

We always keep that a secret from each other. So Jess, to get us on the topic as it is your turn to report, you're going to ask us a question. And my question is, what is the American word for rubbish? Oh, garbage. No. Trash. Where's garbage from? Well, they probably say garbage as well.

Trash. Trash. They say garbage man. Yeah, they say trash compactor. And they say, Oh, no. I've fallen into the trash compactor. What a way to die.

Don't hit Compact. Oh, my God. I can't believe they throw out all these potatoes. We could have eaten those. You fucking monsters up there? Now I'm going to be mashed potatoes with these spuds. Oh, my God. Some early master class in accent words.

You've got to make some tater tots. They love tater tots. Oh no, my retainer's in there. Oh, my gosh, someone threw out there. Baby's pacifier. I can put that in my mouth, I can feel pacified. Oh, no. There's so many diapers in here.

I'm under my neck and diapers. If I can just crawl out, I can get to the sidewalk. And then I'm going to go for lunch. I can't wait to get to the cafeteria. And so, Jess, you're doing an episode about trash? About trash. Trash compactor? Well, no.

Oh, no, sorry. Yeah, trash. Trash. You threw it compactor and then retainer and then pacify and it went from there. No, so I didn't really have a great way to get onto the topic because I knew you wouldn't have heard of it. Because this topic is about a yacht that was called the Trash Man. That's a great name for a yacht. Great name.

Yeah. So this is sort of about the voyage of the trash man. The voyage of the trash man. That sounds like some sort of sci-fi epic. Will that be the title of the episode, The Voyage of the Trash Man? Probably not, but maybe. Because it doesn't give anything away, I guess. I'm intrigued.

Hard to say. So this has been suggested by a couple of people. It's been voted on by the Patrions, but it's been suggested by Emma from Melbourne and Melissa from Singleton in New South Wales. Interesting that it was two people from Australia that suggested this because it is an American topic. Oh, hence trash. Trash compactor. Water.

So I would love to tell you this story now if that's okay with you guys. Oh, God, sorry, just got some cilantro in my eye over here. Oh, no, I've got some oregano. Oregano. Oregono. Oryl does that say it like we say. That's them doing us. Oh, no, mate, I've got some oregano in my eye.

I've got some oregano in my eye. Craig, please come over and help me out. Quick, put on those aluminum gloves. I don't know why gloves were made of aluminum, but they are. Touchdown. The quarterback. This is fun for all of our American listeners. I just want, just before we get on, we've got a rare, like, negative review, and I thought

I'd read it out just to, just for any new listeners. Why would you read this? No, I just thought just for any new listeners. Okay, but am I going to be hurt? No, we'll save them some time. Okay. They're doing, they complain about the thing that we do. that people always complain about.

Oh, I see. Not much depth is the title. Yeah. Well, I'm like a Chicago deep dish. Which Matt described it a message to us as a lovely depth. Oh, a lovely depth. Oh, how deep are they? Because you wanted to know.

Yeah, yeah. How deep are they? A lovely depth. They start off by giving us a suggestion for what we should have called the show. Get on with it rather than do go on is what I was thinking. Wow. That's good start. If we called it get on with it, we probably wouldn't do any of the riffs.

That's what they want us to do, but that's not what the show should be called. That should be your show where you get on with it. We never promised. If we promised to get on with it, then we didn't, I'd understand the complaint. Yes. Great, great point. Based on the topics listed, I was expecting this show to be a bit more intelligent. Hosts somewhat sweary and childish humour.

Fuck you. No desire to listen to another app. Fuck you. And, yeah, that's what you are. What am I? A garbage man. Look. I just thought it would be good to get that up the top in case someone listening is going,

well, I'm looking for something intelligent where they get on with it. We're not for you. I think it's a fair warning up the top. And as they've said, if we were called get on with it and then we didn't, you'd have every right to be pissed. We have also never said we're historians or academics or intelligent people. We are comedians. Childish. Childish comedians.

I think if it was called get on with it, I would also expect a rambly show. Don't you reckon? Yeah, because you'd be like, get on with it. Get on with it. And the do go on is sometimes we use that to end a riff and get back to the topic. I think if anything, yeah, the show, if you wanted a show like that, look up shows that are called stuff like just the facts. Yeah. Straight to the point.

No fath. Look up podcast by dull people and then you'll get the depth you want. We're just not the show for you. And that's okay. I think there's, we should do a second. version of the show where we get AJ just to edit out all the crap. They'd be the shortest fucking episodes ever. Mate, there you go. If you want that, it's over there.

Oh, it'd be so boring. Then they'd have a problem with that too somehow, though, wouldn't they? Maybe. Anyway, sorry to derail. Yeah, if you fucking get on with it. Get on with it. Get on with it. All right. They're from New Zealand that person, so it should be. Say it like they would. Get on with it. Thank you so much.

Sorry, AJ. And New Zealand. AJ, our editor, of course, is from New Zealand. He's from New Zealand, and we love AJ, but we hate New Zealand. It's a multi-country. I love New Zealand. Shut up. Okay. While you're both having a drink, I'm going to just try and start.

Good work. On a sunny October day in 1982, 24-year-old Debbie Scaling was standing by a bank of pay phones on the docks of Annapolis Harbor in Maryland. Debbie was an accomplished sailor, having taken up sailing at an early age, and began working on yachts as a crew member. The year before, in fact, she'd been the first woman to complete the Whitbread Round the World race.

It's now called the Ocean Race. It's a yacht race around the world, as the title suggested. It's held every three or four years. And during that race, she'd navigated some of the most difficult conditions on the planet. And as a result, she was already pretty well known in professional sailing circles. She's only 24. Debbie had been hired to crew a 58-foot sailing yacht called the Trash Man for a routine main to Florida transfer.

Basically, it had been sold from one millionaire to another millionaire, and the second millionaire, or one of them, had made his money in, like, trash. Yeah. And so he named his boat the Trash Man. Oh, okay, because either when you see that job advertised, you know, crew needed for Trash Man. Yeah. Oh, very funny. It's fun stuff.

It's real. Yeah. Yeah. And so the yacht had already sailed from Maine to Maryland, and it was while they were docked in Annapolis Harbor that Debbie was looking for some help. The journey had not been going smooth. so far. So there's this really great article written by a journalist. I've got his name later, but it was published in Boston Magazine, and I reference it a lot. And so from that article, the boat's captain, John Lippeth, who was a heavy drinker, was passed out below deck when she first

showed up at the Southwest Harbour dock in Maine to report for work. Soon after they set sail, they picked up the captain's girlfriend, Meg Mooney, because she wanted to come along for the trip. From Maine to Maryland, Lipoth rarely eased the sails and relied on the inboard motor, which consistently sputtered and needed repair. They'd struggled to pick up additional hands as they travelled south, and scaling knew they needed more qualified help for the difficult sail along the coast of the Carolinas, exposed at sea to high winds and waves. So while they're docked, she's thinking about who she could call to come and help on this job.

And she thought of her friend Sarah Kavanaugh. Sarah was also an accomplished and promising sailor, who Debbie had met as part of the race the year prior. I'm not sure if they were on the same boat or just sort of, you know, all part of the race. But just as she was about to call Sarah, Debbie looked up and saw Sarah's 21-year-old brother, Brad, walking along the docks.

That is, is that Kismet? I don't know what Kismet means. Is that right? Serendipitous, maybe. Might be serendipitous. Wow. So she's going to go on the pay phone and then she goes, Hey, it's Brad.

Yeah, she's like, I might call Sarah Kavana. Oh, that's Brad Kavanaugh right there. My God, Brad Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh is right there? Oh my God, Brad. Oh my God, Brad, come join the trash man. Hey, Brad, Brad, we're going to go trick-or-treating later. Brad, sorry if you can't understand me.

I've just got to take out my retainer. Oh, so my thumb of them. So. What is a, what we call a retainer a plate? Is that right? Or is that a different thing again? Yeah, we do call them plates. All retainers.

Retainers a better word. Plate is, it's already got a meaning. It's like you plate. Plate. Oh, now I can't think about it. Because I think I had a plate as a teen, briefly. Yeah.

I grew mine. And it's crazy, my teeth moved. It's like a thing where you're like metal band around the front, pulls them back a bit. Yeah. I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's different. But a plate you can remove, but brace,

you're doing about braces? No, retainer. Braces, I think. You usually have a retainer after your braces to retain the shape of your teeth. So usually you'd wear it maybe while you're sleeping or something. Yeah, I don't know. And then I just stopped. My teens were a long time ago.

I might be misremembering. I can't have both of our braces back then. The orthodontics have come a long way in the last few hundred years, man. Yeah, that's probably true. Mine were made of wood. But they look beautiful. Thank you so much.

So, yeah, she's like, she's going to call Sarah, and then there's Sarah's brother. And they come from a sailing family. So Brad's a, you know, pretty good sailor as well. Brad, you, Brad will do. Crazy. And Brad was there with his friend, Mark Adams, who was a mid-20s Englishman, who'd been Kavanaugh's occasional racing partner.

They'd sailed a bit together. A job that Mark Adams had previously secured for them aboard a boat had fallen through, and all they had to show for it was like 50 bucks each. So they were wandering around trying to see if they could get work. Oh my God. Is this Kismet? Am I saying that?

Are we both Googling Kismet? Have you heard the word Kismet before? Fate or destiny, yes, you're right. Yep. I think I've heard it in an American movie. It's Kismet. That's kismet. So, yeah, they're looking for work, and Debbie told the two young men that they needed extra hands on their crew.

She introduced them to the captain John. He offered them jobs, and they happily accepted. What a beautiful moment of serendipity. This is a lovely story. So nice. I love where this is going. But it would be a decision that Brad would soon regret. Oh, no.

He's going to have some sort of workplace dispute, being underpaid. There's no HR on the boat. Exactly. He's got nowhere to go. Oh, no, he's going to get seasick. Oh, Brad. He didn't know, but this is, yeah, the seas can get a bit rough. I said he was from a sailing family, but they mostly just had the boat in the backyard.

Yeah. And practiced, but he'd never actually be on the ocean. A lot of ab sailing. Mm-hmm. Okay, yeah, that took me a sec. In the backyard. But that's good stuff. It was pretty good stuff.

It made sense that took you a few seconds. It was pretty complicated. It was very highbrow. And that's what you get at Dugo. on, okay? Might not be depth, but it is high brow comedy. That's true. Mm-hmm.

I'm offended by that. Oh, that review. Yeah. No, but I think that's what everyone, that's everyone on first listen. Yeah, of course. Nearly every single person hates it. But if you really don't like something, just don't listen to it. Yeah, I think that's what most people would do.

Yeah. I like the ones who stick with it and figure it out, like Marcel Blanche DeWilt did. Yeah, that's right. At first he was like, mm. He's like, he was, he said. your message very much like that. Yeah. Get to the point more.

Yeah. And now he owes us everything. Yeah. Everything he has is because of us. He begs to come on this show now. And so he can talk shit. We'll check the calendar. Okay.

So picture it though. It's a crew of young people. They're all in their 20s. They're sailing a millionaire's yacht down the east coast of the US. It's a dream job. This is like a reality show. So fun. This sounds fun.

But unfortunately, two days into their voyage, a tropical storm formed off of Cape Fear. in the Carolinas. Oh my God, it's already terrifying. I know. Just the fact that Dave's frameing of something being a dream is this is like a reality TV show. That's how great this sounds. My dream.

Which one are you thinking of? None of them. Love Island. None of them would be fun. They're great. You know, you walk around. He's been doing a lot of ab selling, fantastic abs, abs, which they all have. Yes.

Just like on a reality TV show. The producers are whispering to you, be mean to that person. Please, it'll be fun. Hey, you'll never believe what she said about you earlier. Oh, my God. If you cry, I'll give you $100. If you make them cry, I'll give you $200. And here's a half a bottle of vodka.

Yeah. What do you think about that? Go. So, yeah, there's a big tropical storm. It's whipping up massive, violent waves out of nowhere. Like, they're checking their charts. They're like, where the fuck did this come from? Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Is this Kismet? I don't know if I'm using that right. No, now it's not right. So Brad, they're rocking. Like, it's really heavy waves. Brad braced himself by pressing his feet and back between the walls of a narrow hallway. So he's sort of like, bracing himself there to keep from being knocked down as 30 foot tall walls of water tossed the boat around the open seas.

The article I mentioned is by Kevin Koshwara, and it was published by Boston Magazine. This is a little chunk from that. He tells a story very well. As the storm continued, Kavanaugh grew increasingly angry. At 21 years old and less experienced than most of the others, he felt as though no one had a plan for how they were going to get out of this mess alive. He knew their situation was dire. The motor was dead for the third time on the trip,

and they'd already cut off the wind-damaged mainsail. Oh no. That meant nature was in control. They could only ride it out and hope to survive long enough for the Coast Guard to rescue them. Crewmates had been in contact with authorities nearly every hour since the early morning and a rescue boat was supposedly on its way. It's just a matter of time, Kavanaugh told himself again and again, just a matter of time.

Is he saying before they are rescued or before they die? He's probably hopeful. Right. There's people are coming. Right. It's all right. It'll be fine. This will die down.

Yeah, yeah. And they're in a yacht. I'm pretty sure from memory there were like cargo ships kind of in the area that were asked to go help them. So it's like going to be a bigger ship. hopefully can handle the waves a bit better. Right. After a while...

They just come by and picture them just scoop them up. You know, with a big nap. Yeah, yeah. Jop. Boat and all. Yeah, yeah. There you go, little fella. Yeah, just plonk it down.

And they're like, oh, thanks. Thanks. That's quite nice. A big troller or whatever. Yeah. Just picks them up. After a while, the storm settled into a predictable pattern. The boat would ride up a wave,

tilt slightly to port side, then ride down the wave and ride itself for a moment. Oh my gosh. So they're kind of, they're really rocking. So they, they, they, it would ride itself for a moment of stillness and quiet, sheltered from the wind in the valley between mountains of water. So if you look to your left? Water. Look to your right?

Water. What if you look at the floor? Actually, sky. The boat's upside down. It's a glass bottom. It's beautiful. It's a submarine. So Brad began to relax and then the boat rose over another wave.

tilted hard and never ride it itself. Watching the dark waters of the Atlantic approach with terrifying speed through the window in front of him, Kavanaugh braced for impact. An instant later, water shattered the window and began rushing into the boat. He jumped up from the floor with a single thought. He had to rouse scaling from her bunk room. He had to get everyone off the ship. She was asleep.

I was going to say, rouse her? Yeah. Wow, that's a deep sleeper. If you have the best sea legs in the world, you can just sleep through anything. Crazy. Was she like in a hammock or something? So it's always, you know, just running itself. Yeah.

Isn't that wild? So he's thinking, I have to get to run off the ship. The trash man is going down. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh man by name. Trash, you know what the trash does? Sinks. Oh, wow.

Does it? Depends on what the trash is. What if it's like a broken yacht? That's going down. That's going down. Brad burst into Debbie's cabin together while Mark went and got John and Meg. The five of them huddled together at the foot of the stairs as water rose around them.

John tried to get to the radio to call for help, but the water was rising too fast and he couldn't get to the radio. Shit. They climbed up on deck of the yacht and started to take action to abandon ship. Mark frantically struggled to open the pressurized canister that holds the life raft and survival gear. I didn't know that. It's like in a little pressurized canister, you can open that and it just sort of goes like,

pah. Oh, cool. Like, yeah, I was going to say an inflatable thing. Yeah. Which is exactly yes. So he's trying to get that, but he's struggling to. open it, but the life raft has survival gear with it. So it's got a first aid kit, emergency food and drinking water, emergency beckoning device that planes would be able to pick up on.

It might have flares, all sorts of stuff. That'd be a great version of, you know, the old trick of like, here, have some nuts and you open the nuts and snakes pop out. But you go, here, have some nuts on a boat. But you're all going down at the top. There's no time for nuts now. Open the nuts. Open the nuts. It's a really good bit. But you won't, You won't break it. It'll be worse. Just do it. I've got no time for nuts.

You have to trust me. You have to trust me. Just throw in the nuts. I know, you got to. Throw the nuts into the water? No! It's a funny bit. You've ruined it.

Open the nuts. It was going to be really funny and it would have saved our lives. That great. Great. Great. You've ruined it. Well, I guess all this left to do is, pull my finger. Pull my finger.

I also turn into a life round. Look, I can, I could save. all you have to do is pull my finger. So Mark's struggling to get the life raft open. And in the meantime, Brad goes towards the other option, which is this small 11 foot red and black, Zodiac Mark 2. It's a little dingy.

And that's not pressurized. It's ready to go. It's ready to go. But the motor for it is attached to the yacht. So he's sort of like got the motor is attached, but the yacht is sinking too fast. Oh, no. Oh, no.

know. So Brad loses grip of the dingy slightly. It floats off a little bit, but luckily not too far. So he makes the swim for it, getting out to the dinghy fairly quickly. Doing that fun thing where you put the pool toy in and then you jump onto it. Like a little like a inflatable whale or something. Yeah. And you always fall off.

A bit of fun. Mark Adams had less success with the life raft, though. A strong gust of wind ripped the life raft out of his hands and the sinking yacht started to take the raft and it's emergency food, water rations and first aid kit down with it. Oh no, no, no. That doesn't sound like a great system. It should be able to get it very easily. Yeah. But then, but then if it's too easy, what's to stop you if like the, if you hit a wave and you fall back and you knock it and out pops your life raft? You can't just fold it back up and put it back in like a, like a sleeping bag. Maybe there's like a happy medium between impossible in an emergency and if you accidentally

lean on it. So yeah, there's got to be somewhere in between. You're right. So Brad yelled to the others to grab a hold. Maybe if you have to sing something like a certain key. I'm a horny, a horny, honey, honey, horny, honey, honey.

So, oh, no, you're flat. Oh my God. It needs to be perfect pitch. Oh, no. I'm trying to get through it quickly. It's like, no. No, that's not it. Terrible rhythm.

Oh, my God. Why did we choose this song? Annunciate, an ununciate. It's so inappropriate right now. I'm not horny. I'm very scared. Why were we singing that as children? So Brad yells to the others to grab a hold of the raft.

He yells the others, suck shit. Bye. He's like the yacht is going to suck everything down with it, so you've got to get away from it. Oh, yes, like Leo said. Like the Titanic. I learned so much from that film. The crew made it onto the dinghy with nothing but clothes on their back. They had nothing with them.

as they turned around the last visible piece of the trash man disappeared beneath the ocean. Oh my God. Goodbye trash man. Valet trash man. The five of them had made it to the dingy, but they had nothing. No food, no water, no radio, no motor. Oh yeah, they're just sort of floating on something, aren't they? And remember, the reason the yacht sank was because of horrendous weather conditions,

which are still happening. Oh, no. So it didn't suck down all the waves with it? It didn't take the waves down with it. Damn it. Is Brad still just in the whole? hallway of the dingy. Just bracing.

You're bracing. Anno it at everyone else. He actually genuinely was very mad at everybody else. They've had no plan. Yeah. And that, yeah. So the five of them, they're in the water. They're holding onto the lines around the zodiac.

Because if they turn the boat around the right way, the wind will blow it over. Oh, so they're actually floating in the water. They're floating in the water holding on. The dingy is upside down. Oh my gosh. And they're holding on. Plus the wind is about four degrees Celsius, so 40 Fahrenheit. And they're all wet.

so if they were in the dingy they'd quickly become hypothermic. So they're staying in the water. The water is actually warm up because the wind will chill factor's crazy. Yeah. Right. As the storm calmed down slightly, they were able to duck under the boat and take cover from the wind using the pocket of air underneath to breathe. Oh my God.

Well, that sounds very smart, but you also can't see the waves now coming. So you kind of just sort of hoping for the best, right? I guess this is as it's calmed down a little bit. And yeah, if you're just underneath and holding on, you just kind of go. with the waves. Oh, wow, that's so scary. So scary. When I've been snorkeling recently and wearing a flotation device and going with the waves,

I've thrown up. So, yeah, it wouldn't be very nice. Oh, my gosh. You'd be kicked out of the boat for sure. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, all that chum you're spreading out. Sharks will be there in no time. Yep.

So Brad devised a plan for the crew to seek shelter on the underside of the zodiac, yet remain out of the water because the water's cold. So this took me ages to try and understand. I needed to watch an episode of I shouldn't be alive where they dramatically reenacted it to kind of understand. I shouldn't be alive and I'm not. And as it turns out, I'm not. I don't know if I remember. Is this day or night just to get my picture right?

I think this is night. Night, yeah. So he grabbed a wire on the raft and he ran it from side to side kind of to make like a net or a hammock type thing. And he and one of the others lay across the wall. wire, allowing them to lift most of their bodies out of the water, but still be underneath the dingy. They're kind of lying. And then the others would sort of pile on top of them. So they were all kind of out of the water, but they were huddled together. So they're all underneath still? Yeah. So their body heat was, I think Meg wasn't. Meg was outside. So Meg wasn't a sailor.

She was there for the ride and there for like the adventure with her boyfriend. She had no sailing experience. And because of that, they're like, make. And she was terrified. You haven't earned the right. to be in the net. No, she couldn't, she couldn't, uh, she couldn't, like, put her head under to get under the dingy. She was too scared. Oh, so she was just out in the open. I think so.

Next to the raft. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so, yeah, they're all there, like, huddled up together so their body heat can keep them somewhat warm. Hang on. When you said Meg, you didn't mean the Megledon. There's a Meg just outside of dingy. Don't let that Meg in here.

Don't let that Meg in here. No room for you, Meg. So they sort of lay it up. They were able to stay warm, kind of. But when the oxygen underneath the zodiac ran out, they'd exit, lift the boat just long enough to allow new air into that little pocket. Oh my gosh. And they'd go back under again. It's very smart.

Yeah. I would never think of something like that. No. But that's also awful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like they've all gone through this before.

Like, yeah, we're just, you know, just remembering our training. Yeah. We made a wire net. So we could all lie upside down. underneath the dingy. Yeah. It's pretty wild. But are they, this is just, this isn't like common wisdom or anything.

This is Brad thinking of like how do we. It's improvising. So they're lucky Brad's with them. Yeah. Absolutely. So they kind of did that throughout the night and the next morning, John Lipoth, the captain, unexpectedly swam out from underneath the zodiac to find fresh air. He said he felt like he was having a heart attack.

He refused to go back under. He was just too much. The storm had calmed a little bit, but a cool autumn breeze was sucking the heat from their wet bodies. And Brad wanted the crew to stay under the boat to keep warm, but everybody else disagreed, and his crewmates decided to flip the boat right side up and climb on board. This was probably one of the best decisions Brad's crewmate could have made

because soon after, they noticed three tiger sharks circling the dingy. Wow. From all Jess's spew. And I'm sorry about it. They've got a taste for it now. I'm great to snorke with because you want to see fish. I'll bring them. And then I have to get out of the water, please.

I don't feel good. And was Brad still underneath? No, they'd all gotten... They flipped it over and he's still underneath. He's like, no, no, no. I'm doing my... This is my idea. There's no air pocket.

He's just so stubborn. Brad, there's three sharks. I don't know this shit. I don't clear. Back from that article by Kevin again. Mooney, that's Meg, had accidentally gotten caught on a coil of lines and wires while abandoning the yacht, leaving a bloody gun. gash behind her knee.

Oh. Everyone else had their cuts and scrapes too, and the sharks had followed the scent. The largest shark in the group began banging against the boat, then swam under the craft and picked it up out of the water with its body before letting it drop back down. Oh. They're being terrorised by a shark. And so they're just flying to the air for a little bit and then back down. Yeah.

It sounds like a bully. Yeah. Target shop. They haven't a really bad day. Do you mind? Yeah, guys. Jesus. These sharks.

Not now. Guys. Okay. Yeah, we've been a hard time. We've been a tough time. Come back later. The crew grabbed onto the sides of the zodiac while Brad and Debbie tried to fashion

a makeshift anchor out of a piece of plywood attached to the raft with metal wire, hoping it would help steady the boat. But no sooner had they dropped the wood into the water, then a shark bit it and began dragging the boat at full speed like some twisted version of a joyride. He's saving them. Yes.

Is he taking them to shore? That's so nice. I know if it was a shark and not a dolphin. Dolphins tend to, they can help people sometimes. Yeah. Hey, and why can't tiger sharks? Why can't tiger? So they get such a bad rap for being quite aggressive, apparently.

Yeah. Is that their fault? That's who they are. They're trying to help you. You're having a go at them for being their true selves? Jeez. Take a look at yourselves, Brad. I'm picturing Brad from 90s episodes of Neighbors who got attacked by a shark at one point.

So this feels right. Wow. Is it based on Brad? I wonder if this was based on red. I would assume so. Because it's the 80s? Yes, it took 10 or so years. Long blonde locks?

Yes. Yeah. No. But they're being dragged by a shark. Yeah. That is so wild. So wild. Do you think the other sharks like drag him, Kevin?

Drag him. Drag him. Yeah. Probably. And then they dragged him. That's where that phrase comes from. And then eventually they said, let it go, Kevin. Because he did.

You let it go. and they reeled in their makeshift anchor. They're like, okay, it's not... We won't do that anymore. We won't throw out the jet ski line for the shark. Yeah, they meant it to be an anchor, but it turned in to be a fishing line. Yeah, and a very effective one. It happened immediately.

They should have caught, reeled it in. Dinner. Yes. Oh, yeah, if you just pull that shark into the boat. It's like an 11-foot dingy with five the minute. I don't think there's room for a shark as well. Yeah, maybe not in the boat, but in their tums. Yeah.

Yeah, but you still have to think about the weight of the shark. They eat the whole shark in their tongues. Oh, okay. Now we're weight shaming. These people are trying to survive. So they have shark circling. They have no motor, no food or water, no radio. But long before the trash man sank, they'd radioed the Coast Guard and a rescue boat was on its way.

Yeah. So they knew that if they just stay calm and keep the boat upright, they can make it out of life. They'll be okay. Helps on the way. Unknown at the time was that a boat had been on the way to rescue the group when for some reason a miscommunication or we don't know, the search was either forgotten or called off. Forgotten.

Hey, why were you doing? We were going out to that spot. What was that for? Like in the middle of the night you've got on the fridge, open the door. What was on here? Yeah. And then you go, oh, peanut butter sandwich. That's right.

Yeah. That's what had happened. drifting off. And now no one was coming for them. Oh my God. But thankfully they don't know that. At least you have the false hope to keep your spirits up. So the five crew members of the trash man floated in the sea for several days.

Oh my gosh. No water. Awaiting rescue. No water. Brad tried to keep his mind and body busy and do what he could to keep them alive. What was he doing? He pulled seaweed on board to use his blankets. He flipped the boat to clean out urine and fettered water.

water that accumulated in it. I just piss off the side, Brad. Jesus. Brad's just pissing in the boat. What about the girls? Hang it, hang over. Hang your butt over. Does that look like him?

That's how I'm picturing. Matt's just looked up Brad from 90's neighbors and he could not look more different. Okay. Well, I mean, obviously the, you know, for TV, they had to give him a certain look. Longbour mocks. Yeah. He looks very nine his heart from there. Absolutely.

But yeah, they're real, like, have you? Have you seen any biopics or anything? They always look a little hotter on the big screen. Of course, they have to. They have to. Everyone looks hotter on the screen. That's why I'd have, you know, David Wenham would play me on the big screen. Even hotter than me.

It's hard. There's not many. There's not many layers to go up actors-wise to me. Yeah. You'd get Bishimi if you, Dave. That's right. A couple of levels up. Yeah.

Beautiful man. They call him Hollywood Dave in L.A. Do you know that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've heard that. Yeah, I've heard that. Yeah.

So you're getting. Is there anyone hotter than you? Yeah, I think that's a sideways movement. Sandra Bullock. Okay. I also want someone 20 years older than me. Yeah, I've also gone and older. Oh, no, there's no one older than me.

You're older. There's no one older than you. Yeah, sorry, I get confused sometimes in my old age. So did you miss the part about rinsing the piss out of the boat? I did. I was looking up, Brad, from neighbors. But we're really glad you did. Neighbors being a soapy.

Yes. Yeah, what do you call it a soap? It's a soap opera. It's a soap opera. It's a soap. soap. Which got nominated for an Emmy for the first time this year. Is that because Misha Barton's on it now?

I guess so. Something on the international radar. I think it's also out on Paramount. Like an American company, I think, funded it. Putting it forward for awards, maybe it's Amazon. Maybe Amazon, yeah, one of those. I think it's Paramount. This is wild because I'm trying to like build a lot of drama.

And we're talking about one of the great dramas of modern era. I'm just very interesting. I mean, to be fair, at your ability to just sidetrack. The only drama he's missed is that Brad keeps flipping the boat to wash out all the piss. Yeah, and so this is how they do it. And I said, why is Brad pissing in the boat? Yeah. Brad piss.

That's not a bad, like, pawn star name if they were focusing in... Brad piss. Brad piss. Like, Brad Pitt. Oh, I didn't get it. You didn't get it? I didn't get it. I don't know.

So they're a Brad Pitt lookalike, but they focus on golden showers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a worst on it. breathe I'm going to vomit. They're as good looking as Brad Pitt. They're so hot. They're like,

I just do porn. I do just do urine porn. That's so funny. I just do urine porn. Brad piss. I think that's something in that. If it's not clear to the listeners by now, we've been recording a few episodes today.

And I'm starting to see what that person was talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it, but look, plenty of people like us. I get it. I got it from the start. Yeah, I get it. I thought it was going to be some sort of intelligent joke. Cut the 40 minutes in, Brad.

I like, Jess was like, yeah, what? It's like, okay. The connection there is. Yeah, sorry. No, I. Are you okay, Dave? Need a minute. Are you going to be sick?

I feel like I'm going to spew. I don't think I've saved Dave laugh before. No. It's not. That's nice. I like it. I'm crying. I like it.

So, so funny. Brad Piss. So, Jess is about to tell us in detail. You're going to build the drama by telling us how they watch the piss on the boat. Yes. All right. We'll give you a clear run here. First, they'd check for sharks, which I think is a great step one.

In the piss? Sharks in the piss. They'd look in the bottom of the boat and go, no sharks here. Then two of them, is usually Mark and Brad. They'd lean back and tug on a wire that would, flip the boat, they'd rinse it out. I think it must, everybody would, maybe they jump out and then they flip it or, yeah, that would make sense.

You can't just flip it with all of them in there. Meg refuses to jump out of fear. No, well, you're getting flipped. So they flip it out, get all the piss out, flip it back up, everybody gets back in. And they do that periodically. As you can imagine, with no food and no drinking water, things became pretty dire fairly quickly. Can I, I, I missed, why is there so much piss in there?

Why aren't they pissing overboard? Okay, that's what Dave said. My feedback. But then, like, it's harder. Girls, we can aim, kind of. Yeah. But we don't have an external appendage. No, no.

To be able to, like... She-pies weren't invented yet. Exactly right. But if you have to jump out of the boat to wash the piss out every two hours. Yeah, why not just jump in the water, take a piss and then jump back in? Yeah, maybe. But also, like, they've all got, like, sores and stuff like that, and there is water in the boat. So just the...

Right. The water is a bit yuck in there. So they've got to change it over. it anyway. Yes. So may as well piss in it. Mays well piss in it. And is it piss good for like wounds or something?

Yeah. Jellyfish. Sounds fine. So. I bet this was Brad Piss's idea. Don't start him again. He nearly threw up. It's okay.

So they're all obviously very dehydrated. But Mark Adams and John Lipoff. You're thinking of Brad Piss again? Are you thinking about Brad Piss again in such? And then a little, yeah. I am. Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay, they're all dehydrated.

That's not, there's nothing funny about that. Honestly, they should have been drinking that piss. They've wasted good piss. Deidrated piss is pretty full on, isn't it? That's like when it's orange. It's pretty dark. That versus nothing. But Mark and John are kind of more severe than the others.

Both had been drinking quite heavily while on the yacht. Oh dear. Lipoth had been chain smoking too. So the two men were already ahead of the rest of their crewmates when it came to dehydration. They were pretty bad. Meanwhile, the cut on Meg's leg was infected and pussy and she became really sick from the infection. The boat was small. They didn't have much room to spread out.

They all developed body sores, likely from staff infections they all had. Brad's skin became so tender that even brushing up against another person sent a current of pain through his body. God, this is a nightmare. You're wet from salt water, you've got the sun all day long. You must be burnt and they've got sores all over them. Yeah, sitting in a pool of piss. Sitting in piss and stuff infections are very contagious. So you're all just sitting there tight together in a pool of filth.

You're going to get sick. After three days without food and water and using their energy to hold on to the zodiac during the storm, they were all completely spent. By this point, they figured that no one was coming for them, Or at the very least, they'd floated so far that rescue crews couldn't find them. They figured their only hope was washing up on shore, but they didn't know that they had actually floated further out to sea. Oh, no. Into the pond.

It's all bad. So the shark actually dragged them away from home. Yeah. It was a shark, not a dolphin, for sure. Yeah, dolphins would go. You need to get home. This way. Come with me.

Yeah. So the next day in desperation, Mark Adams and John Liputh began drinking sea water. Oh, no. And that temporarily, very temporarily, relieves you of a bit of dehydration, but we know the drinking seawater can make you a little bit mad. And I knew that, but I didn't know why. So I looked into it. And from How StuffWorks.com. It says human kidneys can only produce urine that's slightly less salty than saltwater.

So in order to remove the extreme amount of sodium taken in by saltwater, we urinate more than we actually drank. So you're pissing more than you're taking in. You're Brad pissing more. So it just sucks you dry. Yeah, it dehydrates you faster. And so if you're guzzling seawater, this is still from how stuff works, you aren't taking in any water but incurring a net loss leading to depleted body fluids, muscle cramps, dry mouth, and more thirst, you're even thirstier.

Right. So the body tries to compensate for fluid loss by increasing the heart rate and constricting blood vessels to maintain blood pressure and to flow to vital organs. You're also likely to feel nausea, weakness and even delirium. As you become more dehydrated, the coping mechanisms fail. If you still don't drink any water to reverse the effects of excess sodium, the brain and other organs receive less blood, leading to coma, organ failure and eventually death. So it's really serious.

That's good. Good message. I wouldn't have thought to drink salt water anyway, but... Yeah, definitely don't. But I wonder, even if you know that, if you're so thirsty in that instance, You just see that water and go. I'll just have a bit. Yeah.

And it's just like just for now. I care about right now. Yeah, you're that thirsty that you just sort of like can't logically think this is actually worse. And the kit in the, with the proper life raft would have stuff you can use to make seawater drinkable. Oh. So that's just sunk to the bottom. Yeah, it's gone. They don't have that.

So that's a little desal plant. Yeah, kind of. So that's how. Yeah. I, I knew. I knew that drinking sea water made you a bit loopy, but I didn't really know why. It's just like extreme dehydration, I suppose. And if you've ever been even mildly dehydrated, it's awful.

It's very bad. So, yeah, things aren't going to go too well here. So back to the dingy. Soon enough, delusions began. Within eight hours, they reckon, Lipoth started reaching around the bottom of the boat, looking for supplies that didn't exist. We bought cigarettes. Where are they? he asked.

Then Lipoth, began trying to convince Meg that they were going to take a plane to Maine where his mother worked at a hospital. We're going to Portland, he told her. I'm going to get the car. I want you guys to pick up the boat and I'll come out and get you. Lipoth said before sliding over the edge of the zodiac and into the water. Okay. Debbie told Brad he had to go get John, but Brad, none of them had any energy. They're so depleted. They can't, they can't move. So they try to coax John back onto the boat, but it was too late. The wind pulled the boat away from John, and soon he drifted out of sight.

But he was going to fly to Maine? Yeah. Was it a sea plane? No. Did he see a plane? There was no plane. But he, yeah, right, so he just had lost his marbles there from... Yeah.

Wow. Just from the salt. And he survives? Or that would be a twist later, hopefully. Well, from Boston Mag again. Across the empty expanse of the ocean, Kavanagh could hear Lipoth's last howls as the sharks attacked. Oh my God. No. No. Oh, wow. I thought he was just going to like, you know,

quickly drown because he's sort of lost his mind. No. He was eaten. Jeez. I mean, in some ways, is that better or worse, I don't know. I'd rather quickly drown. Drowns meant, have I heard that right? Drowning's actually a pretty peaceful way to go. Apparently, but I still, I don't like the idea of it. We'd take it over four sharks pulling you apart. Yeah. But if they get you apart real quick, I guess. Yeah, then it'd be quick. I don't. knows, but horrendous. Being delirous is probably a good starting point at least, maybe. I don't know.

So which guy was this? John, the captain. That's the captain. Alcapitana was gone. And so now there's four of them remaining, floating in the middle of the ocean. I must say that I took for granted too much the can't believe we're still alive thing that you said before. I assumed that they survived, but not.

Oh, the show. I'm starting to think John probably wasn't a feature on that. The show, I shouldn't be alive. Yeah, I get you. It's not I. It's not we shouldn't be alive. Yeah, it's eye. Yes.

Only one has to make it. I was cocky. I'll say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was cocky after that that this was a survival tale. Ah, and look, in some ways it is. Four to go. Yep.

So the remaining four there, they're in the middle of the ocean. They're lost. They're losing hope. And that's not good for morale, is it? Your captain's just been eaten by shark. Meg is John's girlfriend. So her boyfriend's just been eaten by shark. Oh, Meg.

Right. But in a practical sense, like, I guess it's one less person in the boat. Yeah, no. Is you looking for a silver lining? And I think... It's not like they're taking up supplies, so there's no supplies to begin. Yeah, that's true.

You're taking up some space. They can spread out a little more now, I guess. This leg room is fantastic. Yeah. But yeah, now you wouldn't want to even eat the sharks if you could, because you don't, then you'd be eating John. Yeah, that'd feel weird. Yeah.

So we'd feel disrespectful. And remember, Mark was drinking seawater as well. Right. So he's pretty delirious too. Apparently, he was like hitting on Meg. whose boyfriend had just died. Inappropriate. Proposing that sex would cheer her up on a boat, on a tiny dinghy.

There's no space, mate. Oh, my God. And she obviously rebuffed, and so he decided to take his party elsewhere. This is from, that's Kevin. Kevin's great writing. Great, Kavanaugh calls him saying, if we're not going to have sex, I'm going back to 7-Eleven to get some beers and cigarettes. You're not going, Brad said.

We're out in the middle of the ocean. I know, I know. I'm just going to hang over the side and stretch out a little bit. I'll get back in the boat. Brad turned to speak to Debbie, and by the time he turned back, Mark was gone. So Mark's gone too.

The seawater was... So he's just gone over the edge and then floated away. Slippery slope, but they were the two guys. Same as John. Oh, sharks again? Sharks again.

So they're nearby. Yes. Geez, hopefully they're full now. And we'll... True. You know, like... You would hope so, but the three remaining...

Because otherwise they're getting a taste for they would be very aware of where... Yeah, let's just keep following this thing, yeah. Yeah, fuck. Well, yeah, the three remaining castaways spent the rest of the evening being knocked around as the sharks bumped and prodded the boat. Oh my God. How strong is this boat? It's like a...

It's an inflated dingy. Yeah, so it feels like a shark could tear through it. If it wanted to, could bite it or something. Yeah. So two were gone quite quickly. That is grim. Yeah. So that night, Meg was particularly unwell, the effects of her infection taking over her body.

At one point, she was speaking in tongues. In the morning, Brad and Debbie woke to find Meg lying on her back, arms outstretched, staring at the sky. She'd been dead for a few hours, they guessed. It was the infection that killed her. Oh, my gosh. Brad and Debbie removed Meg's shirt so they'd have another layer to keep warm and her jewelry so they could return it to her family.

They still hoped that they would have that chance. And then they pushed her body off the raft. Right, just because it was, yeah, right. I mean, otherwise, what are you going to have, sit there all day in the sun? You know, the next few days of you. Yeah, yeah. Thinking of the family. Yeah, that is, I mean, what a decision I have to make.

I know. And they're not thinking. No. They're thinking where it's a matter of time for us to probably. This is like, this is, I think day five. Yeah. They haven't eaten. They haven't had water.

They're so weak. They're so sick themselves. You're not thinking. But them sleeping through the night is nice at least. I know. But it's... Because, yeah, at least we're getting some rest. You're right about Brad being like this, that running into her on the dog changed his life.

If he just hadn't have run into her, she would have called the sister and maybe it would be a different story. Yeah. So many things change in that reality. They had to wait for Sarah to get there. So they left a few days later when the weather was better. Who knows? Yeah, so many little things that just... The kind of things that you would hate to have to run through in your mind over and over again.

Yeah. Which isn't, why can't, you know. And when the weather started to turn it. bad, they realized that the captain didn't have charts for like the closest bay or like area they could get to. So he was really, it was underprepared. So then they, that's why they had to call a Coast Guard to send somebody out to sort of guide them in. If they just had the charts, when the weather got really bad, they could have turned and just docked somewhere, but they didn't have that. Like, it was a whole bunch of things that went wrong. This is what Brad was annoyed. He was just annoyed

that Mark and John had been just drinking the whole time so they weren't doing their jobs properly. So he and Debbie were always having to pick up the slack. And he was the youngest and the least experience, but he's sort of like, none of you were fucking doing what you're supposed to be doing. Hard not to think that, yeah, drinking on the job probably wouldn't have helped either.

Yeah. I didn't realize, in my head, I think I missed that. But the fact that it was the captain who was one of the guys who was drunk. Yeah, when they arrived for the first time on the boat, he was passed out, wasn't he the captain? Yeah. He's a, he was a big drinker. He's a salty old sea dog.

He was like, he was, they were all young. Right. Even the captain's young. They were all like early mid-20s. I mean, I think the captain is like, you know, like a 60 year old, like veteran. No. He's just become an alcoholic. Going down with the ship.

They're all just kids. And that's why like Meg's just young. Her boyfriend's sailing this yacht. That's what I told. It's like an awesome reality show. Yeah, yeah. I know. I get this, as it's going on, it feels more like a reality show to me.

Yeah. It's such a. a wild story. You're getting photo off one by one. It feels like the plot of like a horror movie. Yes. And I hate those kind of movies. But it was just like such a fucking amazing story that it just kept going.

Oh, anyway. So three of them have died within a fairly short period of time, really. So now it's just Brad and Debbie left in the dingy. They were starving, exhausted, dehydrated, covered in sores like I was saying before. Debbie was concerned that they were sitting in infected water in the dingy because Mega just died from her infection and she's like, oh, we need to flip the boat and rinse it out. Because salt water is good, is it a good disinfectant?

Am I making that up? Yeah, I think so. It's good for cuts and stuff, don't they? So yeah, hopefully that could help. But yeah, those sharks are far away as well. I know. So all that in the back of your mind. But it makes it, and the other thing is, of course, you know,

not so awful for everyone. but it is interesting that the two most diligent members of the team are the two that have survived. Yeah. Not that anyone else is expecting a disaster. And Debbie's like an extremely experienced sailor, isn't she? Yeah. Like, sailed across the world. She's also 24.

Yeah. But has dealt with, would have dealt with all sorts of awful conditions. Yeah. But normally in an upright yacht. Yes. I probably sat out all night wet and cold and yeah. Yeah. But I would be there going, I just reckon I'll jump in, get out of it.

I can't. I would imagine. that the majority of people just landed in that situation would be dead by now. Yeah. Yeah. Don't you think? Sure. It's like, how do you survive?

That is, it's awful, every element of it. But there's just the mental toughness of them is crazy. But the physical, all of that, I don't think many would have survived day five. Yeah. And so, yeah, Debbie's sort of pushing to like flip the boat and clean it out. But Brad kind of initially pushes back because he's like, like, I don't have the energy. I can't do it by myself. I'm just too weak and tired. But she kept sort of pushing, so he reluctantly agrees to try. She wasn't going to, why wouldn't she help?

Maybe she would, I don't know, but he was sort of like, I need, he needs, it used to be him and Mark doing it. Right. Maybe Debbie's smaller. So he's standing on the edge of the Zodiac. He tugged the wire, tried to flip it, but he didn't have the strength to do it. As he gave it another tug, he lost his balance and fell into the water. And this is the first time he truly felt panic because this entire time, everybody else has been panicking. He's been trying to stay really calm. But he panicked because in the last maybe 15 hours, every time someone ended up in the water,

they were eaten by sharks. Yes. So he tried to get back on the boat. He didn't have the strength. Debbie tried to help also didn't have the strength and was so overcome with emotion that she sat sobbing uncontrollably on the other side of the raft parallel. Remember, they are unwell, both of them at this stone. He yelled at her to help, but she couldn't, and eventually he managed to muster the strength

and will himself over the side of the dinghy. Oh, thank goodness. He got back in. He was winded, he was exhausted, he was seething. He was so mad. This is from Kevin again. The entire time, from when they were on the trash man with a drunken crewmate, during the storm and throughout their harrowing journey on the zodiac, scaling and Kavanaugh had upheld a pact

to look out for each other, to protect each other from the sharks, the madness, the others. How could she have left him there in the water? How could she have let him down? They were supposed to be a team. Now on their fifth day without food or water, he couldn't even look at her. There were two of them left, but he felt alone. He's pissed. And she's just inconsolable. And I don't, I understand both of them. Did the, did, was he able to clean the boat or that. I don't fully understand. How do you clean the boat if she's not getting out?

I can't quite picture it. Yeah, I'm not sure how that was working that time. Unsure. So they sat in cold, uncomfortable silence until Brad saw something in the distance. A ship. Now, it wasn't the first ship they'd seen in the five days. They'd seen a few. But the others had been too far away or it had been too dark for them to be seen.

And again, they don't have that emergency kit, which would have flares, which would have beacons, which would have lights, something to attract attention, they didn't have any of that. So in the dark, they would see the lights of a ship. But if the ship can't see them, there's no hope. And this is all the kit that went down with the boat that they couldn't release. Yep. I reckon they've probably fixed that up. It had rations in it.

It had water, but also, yeah, stuff that you could use to make seawater drinkable. Had a slab of beer. It had a slab of beer. Deck of ciggies. It had deck of cards. And a deck of cubs. Keep you occupied, had sunscreen. Yeah, so they'd seen, they'd seen ships.

Yeah. Had someone to piss. Somewhere to piss. Had a toilet. It was beautiful, actually. It was gorgeous. So anyway, but this time, it was close, and Brad could see someone on the deck, and he waved, and the guy waved back.

So he's like, I hope you having a good one. I know we can be seen this time. Crew members through lines with large glass boys or buoys. Glass, booies. I know I'd never, I couldn't picture that. But they all landed short, splashing in the water too far away. Undeterred the men on deck, pulled the rescue boys back and tried again. Brad for his part couldn't move. I'm not going anywhere, he told scaling. It felt as if every muscle had gone limp. He had nothing left after spending days, balancing the boat, flipping it, pulling it and watching his crewmates die. The ship made another turn, closer. The men aboard through the lines again. Scaling jumped into the water and started swimming. Debbie's just like, I'm going for it. Oh, I found her energy now. Seeing his crewmate in the water was all the motivation Brad needed.

Fuck it, he told himself. Here I go. He rolled overboard and managed to grab a line, letting the crew reel his weakened body in and hoist him up on the deck along with Debbie. They made it! They made it. Wow. Isn't that fucking crazy?

They quickly realized that their saviors were Russian, and this is at the height of the Cold War. the US Coast Guard never came to save them but ice traders on a Soviet vessel did and they were like I don't care where they're from they just saved my life I don't give a shit yeah they said hey thank you comrades now they're both

they're both high up in the KGBs so in the five days that the crew had been stuck in the dinghy they had drifted 140 miles or 225Ks from where the yacht had sunk wow and they just gone east away from lander there Yeah. Oh dear. So if the other ships had turned up to help them, there was nothing there.

Hey, they're not here. I guess they save themselves. Well, apparently there was, and I'll get to it later, there's still a bit of confusion as to why the sort of rescue call was, why it was called off. But apparently there was a call made to Port Lauderdale, Fort Lauderdale where they were heading to, that they had arrived. And so everyone's like, oh, okay, they arrived. But they didn't. So, they're like, yeah, yeah, trash man's arrived, but it hasn't.

That's a fuck up. Yeah, that's a. I hope someone got fired for that, but not. So the Russian crew gave Brad and Debbie dry clothes, medical attention, and food and water. They contacted the US Coast Guard, who arrived that night to take Brad and Debbie to hospital. The temperature that night dropped down into the 30s in Fahrenheit, so around zero degrees. Oh. So it would have been impossible for Brad and Debbie to survive the night in the dingy.

Okay. Yeah, so just by the skin of their teeth. Yeah. Oh, wow. They shouldn't be alive. And it seems like when they, at the point that they were found, like, the other three had all died like the day before. It's like it was close. So I could have almost been all saved.

Maybe. Yeah. Who knows? So Brad and Debbie made full recoveries, thankfully. Brad soon returned home to Massachusetts and once again felt the need to keep busy. He immediately started taking odd jobs in hopes of events. in hopes of earning enough cash to begin travelling to sailboat races again. Really?

Gosh, I'd be avoiding the ocean forever. I know. But also, he must feel like he could deal with anything now. All right. Yeah, yeah. I suppose so. Yeah. Debbie continued to sail as well.

She wrote an account of the incident called Albatross, the true story of a woman's survival at sea in 1994. It was like 12 years later, which became a, it was made into a TV film. Again, she leaves Brad off, a woman's survival. Brad's like, I'm right here. Are you kidding me? I survived as well. You'd be dead without me.

It was made into a TV film called Two Came Back. I tried to find Albatross. It was pretty, yeah, it was really hard to, I couldn't find a copy of it at all. Or like, I could find a hardback for $170 or something. Isn't that it wild the difference on, yeah, in researching previous topics, I find a soft back, $3.50, or you know, like $20. bucks. Yeah. Hardback.

Two million dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess there's fewer of them. Couldn't find this anywhere. Like, definitely no e-book version or like, yeah, couldn't find it at all. So I would have liked to have read it because the article that Kevin wrote is fantastic, but it's largely from an interview with Brad. So it's sort of Brad's perspective.

But then I watched I shouldn't be alive and it seems like most of it lines up. Debbie's sort of saying the same thing. Why do they speak about each other at all? Yeah, they do. Is it like long-held animosity because of the incident? I'll get to that. Oh. Because of, yeah.

Yeah, that's interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing, but I'm half thinking he'd be like, you know, we were both in a real tough spot. Yeah. We were dying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was upset more than maybe I should have been, but, you know, like, how do you know?

You can't. I think you've got to forgive yourself for it. Both of their reactions are very reasonable given the circumstances they were in. It's a unreasonable circumstance. Watch three people die and they're five days since they've eaten anything. And what are the chances of a shit being in that exact spot and being able to sit? Like, ridiculous. So they got really lucky.

Debbie became a motivational speaker. She was on Larry King Live. Pretty fun. Whoa. And she published another book called No Victims Only Survivors in 2006 about lessons for surviving. So she'd sort of go around speaking about what happened to her and how to, you know, probably around the mindset of survival. A few months after the horrific incident,

Brad flew to Fort Lauderdale for the Southern Ocean Racing Conference season. He was hoping to see Debbie, I believe, for the first time since their rescue. I was going to leave this out, but he was going to see her to tell her he loved her. Oh. Is what he said in that article, which I think is a bit of like, oh, you're mixing up the feelings of having gone through something so horrific and awful together. I'm not sure that you love her, but I don't know. But anyway, so he goes there, they haven't seen each other since. Pacing the docks, he eventually spotted her, and he was relieved to see her fit and well. This is from Kevin again. He moved towards her to

speak, but the mere sight of Brad made Debbie recoil, reminding her of the horrors that she'd suffered at sea while in the zodiac. I'm sorry, but I can't be around you, he recalls they're saying. don't want you to have anything to do with me. Please leave me alone. Wow. She couldn't handle seeing. They had very different responses to it. Really different responses.

So he was hurt by that, but he retreated. And then he did what he's always done. He walked the docks, banging on boats until he found somewhere, someone that would hire him. And he went back out to work. His resume is pretty good now. I would have thought. Or they're like, this guy's unlucky. Oh, yeah.

The curse. Do you want to hire the jinx? Yeah. Well, they both continued to sail. they ran in similar circles. So they did see each other a bit, but it was pretty painful for both of them. Oh gosh, it would be for, like you said, two different reactions, two different reasons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, ideally it's both the same one way or the other. Yeah, but it was pretty tough. I can't see you because I love you. I can't see you because you detest me. Yeah, you make me feel

scared. You make me feel awful. Debbie married twice. She had two children. In 2009, tragically, her son drowned in a sailing accident. Oh, my God. Debbie. And three years later in August of 2012, at the age of 54, Debbie passed away from an undisclosed cause in Mexico, where she'd just moved. Brad was obviously very sad to hear of Debbie's passing, and so he's now the last one left. He's the lone survivor. Several years later, Debbie's daughter gave Brad a frame. Inside was a neatly coiled metal wire. The same one Brad had rigged up to suspend their shivering bodies under the zodiac and flip the boat to keep it clean. It was what had kept them both a lot. It was what had kept them both alive.

Unbeknownst to him, Debbie had retrieved it after the dinghy was found still floating in the ocean. She framed it and hung it on a wall, keeping it close all those years. Wow. And the daughter must be like, if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't exist. Yeah, yeah. So I hope that gave him a little bit of closure. Yeah.

But this is sort of the end of Kevin's really great article. You can read the whole thing. It's links in the show notes, but this is how he sums it up. Brad remains hell-bent on learning why the Coast Guard never showed up in the aftermath of that fateful storm. He has documents and photos from the official case file after the sinking of the trash man, but they give few, if any, clues. He spent decades trying to figure out what happened, and now that he's the only crew member alive, he's even more determined to find the truth. He wants to know how rescuers forgot about him and his crewmates, and why. Hunted by his memories,

he's driven up and down the East Coast, stopping at bases, and looking for anyone to speak to about the incident. Oh my God. He is still adrift, nearly 40 years later, still searching for answers. It's pretty wild. Wow. He's married, has kids, like he's, you know, apart from, you know, chasing down these answers, I think he's still lived a pretty full life.

Yeah. But obviously, some of it's stayed with him forever. Of course. How could it not? Would, yeah. And yeah, just the frustration of like what happened that you forgot about us. Man, I hope we have that, um, that run. continues of us putting out an episode and then some news or some closure coming.

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's obviously just a bias that we notice these things. Of course, but it's fun. Listeners pointed out sometimes like, oh, it's happened again. Hopefully, yeah, some, he finds proper closure. Yeah. But that's the story of the sinking of the trash man. And I don't know whether I call the episode the sinking of the trash man or if I make it

something a bit more mysterious so it doesn't give away that that should be. going down. It goes down pretty quickly. From then on, the story is really what happens afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what an incredible story it is. Isn't that wild? There was a, I think in 2019, a movie, TV movie starring Josh Dumas.

Do you remember him? Yeah. I can't remember what it was called. Oh, no, Josh Jamal from Las Vegas? Yes. Yeah, yeah, I remember him. He was the captain. So they made it into like a TV movie loosely, but.

quite clearly based on this. I made everyone hot. They were all hot. But Josh Jamal is not 24. So, okay, you're fooling nobody. But yeah, it's been used a little bit. And yeah, Debbie's written a couple of books. But there isn't heaps and heaps and heaps on it, actually.

So, yeah, I really appreciate that article written by Kevin that was published in Boston magazine because it was a very helpful resource for telling this wild story. Cheers, Kevin, if you're listening. Cheers to you, Kevin. Cheers to the two people that suggested this topic. Yeah. I am amazed that after eight and a half years that every week, there's often a story that I'm like,

that's one of the most amazing stories I've ever heard. I've never heard of it. How have I never heard of that? Do you remember? We used to be like a bit of a, like a semi-regularly, the ones that would come up would be murderers. And we don't have that many murderers anymore, but we're having a lot of ocean disasters lately.

Yeah. Or rescues and whatnot. Yep. Am I right and think of that? It feels like they've become more of a thing. And I hate it. I don't trust the ocean. We don't know.

The submarine one. Yep. Titanic. That was a while ago. We had Chris Lemons a little while ago too last year. That was a bonus episode. Yeah. I've got to say, Jess's bonus episode on the Chris Lemons diving incident.

It's well worth subscribing to the Patreon for. If you like this episode, it's very similar. Well, well told. Thank you, Dave. And I was on it as well. So if I'm more annoying. Matt's the problem. Am I the problem for you?

Then that's a great one to listen to. Then you'll love it. Yeah. Matt was off having a well-earned holiday. But with that... Okay. You think you can just take off, do you? By the way, I need six weeks off in July.

I was fine. But without you, Matt, we wouldn't have had breadbiz. Oh, my God. That's the hardest I've ever seen you laugh. I thought I was... Yeah, that was felt good. You know, when you don't realize, like, I've seen you laugh a lot. Yeah.

I thought, yeah, yeah, I laugh. pretty consistently, I think. Yeah. Ever since you told me I don't laugh enough. No, you laugh. You've taken on notes. I've, yeah, I've, I opened myself up to the laugh. Yes.

But Dave doesn't laugh. No, Dave laughs, but. I laugh a lot. Just not that to that level, because if I don't know I did that every week, I would shorten my life. You're a good, you're a good laugher. And I was listening back to the, uh, the episode from a couple weeks ago of the, the scream, theft of the scream. Oh, the live one.

And it's so cute because in parts you can just hear a little Dave going, right to the mic Oh yeah that is a good daver I was thinking of his been like I can't do it but it's like a ha ha ha ha but a ha bigger

yes like that like that that's hard to an impression that's a big that's real day it's really cute it's adorable go listen to it

before we went on the Adrian the tech he recorded that did say I don't want to tell you how to do your job but like the closer you get the mic the easier it is for me so I really took that to heart

so even when I was laughing I was like eating the microphone He did not say that to me. And then at the end he said to me, to be honest, I said, how to go? And he goes, to be honest, you're a little too hot at the start. Okay. Can't get it right. Can't win.

What a beautiful and tragic and everything tale that was, Bob. Yeah, when the Patreon's voted for that one. Oh, yeah. Did you have a theme or something? Or were you just like, the stories that had grabbed your attention? Yeah, just I was looking through Jack the Hat, McVitty. There's a link in the show notes. If you want to suggest a topic, anybody can.

You don't have to, you know, be a subscriber or anything. So, yeah, that's where we get most of our topics from. So I was having a little bit of a look through, and there was a few that kind of grabbed me, but they were all very different. A couple of the others were more sort of like a biography of an interesting person. But they voted for this, and I think they voted really well because I was reading that that main article that I referenced today, just like it was gripping. You're kind of like, oh no, the yacht's gone down there, stuck with nothing.

Oh my God. One of them's dead, two of them, three of them dead? Oh my God. Just sharks right there. Isn't that terrifying? Ugh. It's, yeah, just an amazing harrowing. Yeah, yeah.

What a story. And again, yeah, like they've said, wild, there's still these stories you're like, how have I not heard of that? How's not a household story? Well, it probably is for them. You're all right, Brad, we get it. We know what you do. Amazing.

All right, well, that brings us up to the section. And Jess said you don't have to be a supporter to suggest topics, but you can be a supporter if you just want to support. There's all sorts of levels from the lowest level where you can vote on topics. You get into the Facebook group, which is the nicest corner of the internet. And if you're in there, you get all the other things like hearing about live shows first, discounted tickets, all that sort of stuff. And then there's a bunch of different levels, including a shoutout level. There's the level where you can get three bonus episodes a month,

soon to be four bonus episodes a month. And another level, which is a Sydney-Shaunberg level, where you get all those things. Plus, you get to give us a fact, or a question. In a section of the show, we like to call a fact-quot or question. That's a little jingle. It goes somewhere like this. Fat quote or question. Ding. Huh, he always remembers the ding. Huh. She always remembers the thing. And the way this section works If you are on the Sydney-Shaunberg level, you get to give us a quote question, brag or a suggestion. You also get to give yourself a title. First up this week, we've got one from Henry T.

Will Hoyt. And Henry has got the title of Vice President of Day Drinking. Oh, you're hanging out with that captain. Yeah, I was going to say, day drink is my, that's my favourite kind of drinking, but mainly because you just get to bed early. Yeah, I love that. And then you sleep through the hangover. Yeah, get a full sleep. Yeah, love a full sleep.

But also... As I age, I love a full sleep. Live from full sleep. What I also love is drinking responsibly. That's right. Yes. All day and all night. Drinking responsibly all day or all night.

Yeah. No matter when you are, where you are, when you are. You're being responsible when you're drinking. Yeah. That's all. Agree. Okay. Hey, mate, mate.

Is you a problem with people being responsible all day long and then being responsible all night long? That's not my problem. I'm just worried about some of the people listening are like they're going to twist your words. A couple of prudes. All right. All right. Go away prude. Yeah.

Well, you know, 50. 50% of our audiences approved, 50% are perves. Which one are you? Let us know on our social media. Oh, we haven't really asked this for a while, but social media, follow us. We've got way less followers than listeners. Do go on pod. Never quite balanced out.

It's because we're old and we're not like hot young things on Instagram. We don't know what we're doing. We've got to get our tits out more. We've got to get our tits out. I've been saying that to you boys for years. Well, I'm finally up for it. Okay, great. So if you follow us, let's set a goal.

And if we hit that many followers, you get your tits out. Okay. Oh, no, I don't mean all the way out. I'll hide the nips. More like this. Of course. We don't want to get bansful. Tazeful.

Yes. But accurate. But we've got to. Accurate nudes. Yeah, accurate nudes. We've got to hit like 20,000 plus on Instagram. Yeah. Before you get the tits out.

We're going to forget. And then somebody's going to say, go tits out. And we'll be like, how dare you? You're discussing. You don't block. Get the hashtag going baps out at 20s out at 20. Fair. Yeah.

If you just clip out this bit of audio, I will remember. So we've got two facts quotes and all questions this week. The first one from Henry, President of Day, or sorry, Vice President of Daydring, has a suggestion. Henry's suggestion is, You guys have mentioned a few times that one of the working titles for your pod was it starts with a question. Yes.

Sorry, it's about it. It should be get on with it. Get on with it. You dickhead. Your toilet. Fucking toilet. That was, yeah. I don't think it ever got to working title stage.

It was just on a list of ideas that Dave had. But anyway. It's the most cringy that that stayed with us. That's why. Henry says, which I think we can all agree, sucks. Okay. Yeah,

good today. Henry's on board. Yes, we agree. In brackets, sorry. No, I don't apologize. For the Americans listening,

you know, the equivalent of rubbish is trash. The equivalent of brackets is parentheses. Oh, of course. It's a beautiful language over there. I love it. I think, I wish we.

took on more of their words, and of course we nearly every third word I say would have an American origin. Anyway, I was thinking you guys should do a bonus app in an alternate reality version of your pod where that was the title you went with. I think you could get some good mileage, brackets, kilometeridge. That's good stuff. He's on the reverse, Ross said. Nice. Of extra dog shit, I have extra dog shit riffs out of the concept. What threw me there is he's, thinks we're saying dog ship rifts with a T on there. Gotcha. We're saying rifts double F.

Isn't that interesting? They think they're little tiffs we're having, little fights. No, we don't have. Dog shit rifts. Oh, falling out over the dog shit. I guess so. We keep our dog shit rifts off pod. Yeah, that's right.

We feud in our own time. Our rifts are where we all come together. That's right. Until Jess is bored with it and we move on. That's right. Together. I'm a delight. You're so lucky to work with me.

And that's the thing. in an alternate universe, you didn't. That's right. In that alternate universe, me and Dave, dog shit riff. Yeah. No one ever tells us stop. Shut up. Yeah, we're still going in that alternate universe.

They only say it with their eyes, which is, honestly, it's a service you're providing to the listeners. Honestly. Honestly. I'm really quite polite to so many other people. And with you guys, I don't know, it just comes out. Shut up. You get to be yourself. Yeah, it's a comfort thing, right?

Show your awful self. Yeah, my awful, awful self. Shut up, your dogs. Get it up, you know. He finishes by saying, please forgive any typos. Please forgive. Please forgive any typos slash grammar errors in this question. For clarification, please see my listener title.

Oh, day drinking. Day drinking. Oh, riff slash rift. So maybe that was a type of. So maybe that's an American thing. Like in America, they call them guitar rifts. Take it away. Show us your best rift.

Did I? No, I did not think so. Okay, you were big funny. And I misunderstood. First time for everything. Me being funny and you understand. You are very funny and I say that all the time and you say bit patronising. But I'm just like, wow, that was funny.

And you get so funny. No, I can confirm it is riffs. Riffs. And that's what we're talking about. Riffs. So the question is what? Do a bonus episode. Do a bonus episode.

Called it starts with a question. Love it. We could do, we should, if we were going to do one, because that would just be the same show. We do still start with a question. It'd be funny to do the one that was, was it short tales or whatever short report and we do it with a timer

oh I like that which apparently listening back to the first bonus episode I had a timer going because I wanted to keep it for 30 minutes or under we should do it we should bring that back one time I agree today we recorded a phrasing the bar on the whale which is out

by the time you hear this and it went for 90 minutes discussing a what 140 minute no it's a nearly two hour film isn't it yeah actually no it's about 115 minute movie, so we almost got there. All right. Final one of the fact quotes and questions this week comes from Michaela McCrae,

aka Brigadier General in the Feline Servitude Division. And Michaela, does that make sense? No. Servitude. I guess Brigadier General, you know what that means? That's right up top. Yeah. Of the what's sorry?

Feline servitude division. Yeah. So a cat. She's an underling of a cat. Yeah. And anybody who has a cat knows they're, they, they, run the house? You're the underling. Who runs the house? Cats. Miaoela writes. Dave, that was funny. Thank you. Point it out every time. Maybe in the next few weeks,

you'd say it again. So, Macaela writes, I've just listened to Michelle's report on guide dogs and the talk about other dog jobs and other animals with jobs. Cats, as we know, are difficult to train, but sometimes they choose to do a job without training. Two of my friends. Two of my friends. Friends. Dave's, look, he's browsing online. If you're wondering why he's giggling. He's just got a funny text. Just looked up cat piss.

Bradpiz. No, I'm laughing the idea of a cat just choose it. I can't wait to hear what dog the cat has chosen. Two of my friends have cats that alert them when something is wrong. One alerts to seizures, seizures. Wow. And the other to low blood sugar. Neither were trained for this, but they do have very strong bonds with their people.

And despite the reputation of being dumb as rocks, these amazing cats are both ginger? Are ginger cats meant to be? Oh, I didn't know. I hadn't heard that. But they're dumb? Yeah, like, is that cats or ginger cats, do you think? I think maybe ginger cats, because I wouldn't have thought cats were unintelligent. I think cats are very smart.

Ginger, yeah, ginger always have weird stereotypes about them that are unfair. And they're definitely not stupid, are they? Or quick to anger. All defensive in any way. Okay, that's actually a better description. of me. Just stop throwing your hair. It's quick to anger.

Defensive. Defensive. Fuck off. Fuck off I'm not. Fuck off I'm not defensive. You are. So if I may be so bold, can I ask what,

can I ask that we raise a glass of whatever the triptage club is having today to Blue and Willow? I can tell you what I'm going to be having it. It's going to be pretty good. Oh, I'm looking forward to it. To Blue and Willow. Imagine I'll have a salty rim. Oh, bugs.

They all would have had a salty room after. Oh. What? Hang on. What are you? What do you mean? Oh, yeah, all right. So we're going to remember, Dave, can you remember we're going to salute Blue and Willow when those drinks come out?

Blue and Willow. I love, I'm fascinated by, yeah, I mean, you see dogs do it a lot, but it's interesting that those cats can do it, alerting you to a medical episode. How do they do it? How do they know? Dogs like, oh, your blood pressure is low. What? But my dog's just like, oh, shit inside.

And I'm like, can you not? And he's like, oh, ha ha, ha. Well, have you figured out what that means? Oh, he's trying to tell me something. He's trying to tell you something. Oh, it might not be blood sugar. Maybe you're, yeah. He's telling me I need to poop.

But maybe there's something else like, you've never had a seizure in that apartment to my knowledge. Yeah. Maybe his poo is somehow doing something. Oh. Yeah, the poo might mean you're not having a seizure. I'll keep shitting until you're, I'll let you know. All clear. It's the all clear alarm.

Everything is fine. Oh, what a good. boy. Thank you so much to Michaela and Henry. And like I say, Sydney-Shonberg level, because we've dried up a little bit lately. There's plenty of people on that level, but if, obviously, no pressure. I don't want this to start feeling like you've got a homework. But if you've got any fax quotes or questions or really, whatever you like, and you're either on the Scheinberg level or you want to sign up to it, get those in. If you need the link, feel free to DM me on Patreon. Or if you want to know anything,

Maybe you think, oh, I should have had my shout-up one hour. Anything like that, my DMs on Patreon are always open. That's the best place to contact us because, or the email, I guess, but the Patreon I normally respond within a week or something. That's pretty good. Which, as I said, I'm like, this is a pretty low-level brag here. Within a week. Sometimes really quickly, though.

Sometimes I'm on there at the time. We just don't know. Comedy Festival time, I'm a bit slower. So that brings us to the next part, Jess, where we shout out a few of our other great supporters. And normally you have a game based on the topic at hand. Yeah, but it's quite a grim topic. Let's just name their boat.

Oh, yeah, great. And the boat does not sink. Their boats don't sink. Oh, is the boat named after how they made their fortune? Yes. Judge Mears. Great. Do you want to do it like we did last week where one of us comes up with all of them?

One of us reads all the names out and the other one gives us, how about this, right? one of us reads out the name. The other one says how they made their fortune. The third one names the boat. Okay. Based on that job. Yep.

Does that make sense? Try me to read out the names this week. Yeah, you want to read out the names? I came out with a few things last week. Yeah, okay. Jess, you want to do the job or the boat? Yes, job. Okay.

And the boat's got to be semi-relevant to the job, I guess. We'll see. All right. All right, let's kick it up. I would like to thank, first of all, thank you for supporting us on Patreon. on. First of all, location unknown. Can I only imagine they're deep within the fortunes of the malls. They're known by one single word, and that word is Dandau.

Dandau. Financial advisor. Or financial advisor. The boat is called cocaine fuckhead. See what I mean? I was telling you this last week. He just like, he just, he blanks out. His mind goes blank and he just, he comes out.

I'm not joking. The stuff he comes up with is a. So you sort of become like a horse name generator in your own mind. Yeah, yeah, we don't need the horse name generator anymore. All right, let's keep going. I'll show you. I'll show you. He's really good.

Dan Daundow's email address, if we won't dox them, but they might not want their name out there for a reason, but their initials C-Z. Just in case. Just in case. They forgot that they put D-D-A-N-D-A-U. Thank you so much, Dandau. Thank you. I would like to think now, I've actually seen this one when we were doing the shout-outs last week, this location, and I'm kind of obsessed with it. I really want to visit now because one of my favorite.

hand names I've come across in a long time from Utah, specifically Spanish fork. Oh, that's so good. How awesome is that? That's great. Courtney Likian. No, no, sorry, let me say it again. Courtney Lecky-Kinen. Courtney Lecky-Kinen. I reckon you've absolutely nailed that.

One of those is spot on. One of those is close. If you've heard all this pronounce and editions, then AJ's failed us, I wanted him to edit out, listen up, look up the word, and then find the right one. No, obviously not. But it's, Courtney. AJ has failed us. Lehi Kynan, if I'm sounding it out.

But you're from Spanish Fork. Officially my favorite place in all of Utah. That's really good. And Courtney made their money as a chef. Chef. Restaurantateur. Small noodle. The small noodle.

That's good. That is, would you be honest, would you rather get on the trash man or the small noodle? I'd be getting on the small noodle. I'd be getting on the small noodle. That's good stuff. I was to, you know, the chefs make little. Oh, I got it. I got it.

You nailed it. It's very good. Okay, Dave, let's keep it going. He's on fire. Sorry, I'm back on the Spanish Fork. While he's hot. Wiki page. Sorry, I'm obsessed with it.

Okay, you're going to have to bookmark it. Read that in your own time. Can't wait to look up Spanish Fork. Where at work. technically. Isn't that ridiculous? It is so ridiculous. Matt's just coming out with names of boats and this is our job. This is another person located deep within the fortress of the moles.

We can only assume. And they're also one name and that is just Nick, N-I-C. Possibly surname starting with T if we wanted to give you another clue of who you are in case you don't know. N-I-C, Nick is the name you've given us. News reporter. and this just in that's good too HMAIS

this just in yeah that's good that is really good that's really good keep it going on the side of the boat there's like a photo of Sandra Sally

no no no don't add to it you'll bring him out of it sorry sorry sorry from Packett and I'm here in Victoria thank you to Ashley Wainwright Ashley Wainwright is a police officer you're nicked yes

that's great good You're going to think? I'd like to think from Edinburgh in Scotland. It's one name again, Mave. A bagpipist, but like best in the world. Yeah, like top top one. The Toot, Toot, Toot, Toot. Could it be like a Toot Toot Honk?

Oh, yeah, the Toot Toot Honk. Hello, Scott. This is DeWonky captain of the Toot Toot Toot Honk to start. We're having a bit of trouble out here. Toot Toot Toot Hunk. Mayday, Mayday. The Toot Toot Honk is going down. So is that part of the May Day?

But what's your boat called? Tut-Toot-T-Hunk. Are you okay? We heard the Mayday. T-T-T-T-T. I'd like to think from Blakeview in the Australian capital territory. It's Bethany Stol-Mentis. Yeah, you see, too.

Wow. Clown. Professional clown. The big top. Oh. That's great, too. That is good. Fuck, he's here.

Like one of Cirque du Soleil's best clowns. Of course, I've got a fucking boat. Kid me? I've paid tickets to see him. Expensive. Those guys are killing it. I've paid tickets to Sam. My God, you've seen their new act. They just roll around in the floor in a bunch of cash.

Beautiful. It's really impressive. From Reading in, I believe, Massachusetts, Jenny Petty. They might say reading. Jenny Petty is a romance novelist. Rock firm appendage. Rock firm. He withdrew his rock.

Rock firm appendage. Rock firm, babe. I'm here, baby. I'm rock firm and ready to go. Firm does feel like a step down from hard. It's the same. It's a bit of firm. It's pretty...

poke that. That's pretty firm. It's the same as saying boiling warm. Rock firm. I'm rock firm right now. Oh my God, you look ravishing. I am rock firm. Welcome to more the SS Rock Firm Appendez.

Couple more. All right. Okay, two we go from Waterloo, New South Wales. Thank you, too. And just the initials here. LQ. LQ. IT.

Hello, this is I. LQ from IT. The on and off. Oh, God, he doesn't miss. It's written all as one word. Yeah. On and off. The on and off.

Oh, that's good. People are like, what is that Russian? No. I'm in IT. That's fucking good. That's funny. That's really good. That's good stuff.

And finally, I would like to thank from Card Ross in the greatest of Britons. Hard Ross or firm Ross. It's card. I'm sorry. You know, but you know where I was going. It's pretty funny. Very good. Very good.

Thank you so much. And thank you to you. Would dedicate that fantastic joke to Jared Cordner. Jared Cordner, of course, famously a quarterback in the, in, gridile. Oh, okay. Football, American football. The hut, hunk.

Yes. You know how they say? Hutt, h, hutt. And then they throw it, yeah. What they're used to in movies. I don't know if they actually said. Seven, six, 11, 41. Hutt, huck, huck.

Yep. Honk. The honk is unrelated, but it is fun. That's fun. And thank you again to Jared, LQ, Jenny, Bethany, Maeve, Ashley, Nick, Courtney, and Dandau. We appreciate you so very much. Yeah, it wouldn't have made sense, but I reckon a good name for a boat would be the wide receiver,

which is like who they throw it to. Oh, I like that one. But it would be a weird name for a quarterback. Yeah. Unless he was like, hey, they're the ones who really made me all this money. Yeah, I dedicate this to all my wide receivers. Yeah. You know who you are.

Yeah. Not by name. Yeah, I can't remember who you are. Yeah, I think it was number 22. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Thank you so much to Jared. LQ, Jenny, Bethany, Mave. Ashley, Nick, Courtney, and Dandau.

I love the name. Is it Maeve or Move? It is Maive, isn't it? Move's the colour. I had Sorin and I at our second week of, or second half of the festival, our front of house person had an Irish name. Mm-hmm. And it reads like Aisling. Do you know how that one's?

Ashling. Yeah, Ashling. So good. It was fun watching her and Soren say, he's like, Aisling? She's not, Ashling. Surin? No, Sourin. And you're like, I'm Matt.

I'm Matt. I'm Matt. Hello. The last thing we need to do is welcome a few people, quite a few actually this week, into the Triptitch Club. We've got nine names, Dave. Are you ready for this? Oh, my gosh. This is the biggest intake in a while, I reckon.

What do we do three years ago to get everyone to sign up? Yeah, I wonder. Probably something awesome. 20-21. Probably something real freaking cool. Yeah, we said if we get more patrons this, this, you, we'll all jump off a bridge. We did.

Yeah. And we'd live to tell the tale. It was fricket sick. My back is still sore. So nine inductees. Jess, you're made a drink, or we're all going to have a sip of and toast to Dave. Who was it?

Blue and Willow. Blue and Willow. Blue and Willow. I definitely remembered. Everybody gather around. Everybody grab a shot glass as we enjoy a nice shot of Brad's piss. It's not actual piece. Oh yeah, what do you make it out of?

Lemoncello. Oh, limoncello. Have you give it a salty rim? It's got a salty rim. Yeah. But we're calling it Brad's Piss. Brad's fantastic. And in honour of Brad and Debbie and their fallen crewmates, I will be serving no food.

Okay. I think that's beautiful. Excellent. So we're just going to get. We're just going to get really. To Brad's Piss. Really fucked up. Here's Brad's Piss.

Ah, J. If you put a chinking sound effect in there, that'd be great. Oh, just it for us. Okay. Have we explained what we're doing here? Yeah, it's fine, they get it. So these people have been on the shine up level, the sign up level or above for three years straight. And that's how they get into the triptage club.

The sign up level or above. The shoutout level or above. But you're thinking you were shine. Shineberg. There's the shine level as well. I was because I started saying shine, but I was saying shout. And anyway. Whatever.

What? Does it matter? So we induct these people. It's basically a hall of fame that we duck these people in. And it's also a clubhouse and everything. Every week, Jess has food and drink, so that's what Brad's piss is. Yep. And I always book a band.

And you're never going to get it. What? You never get it. You're never going to get it. You won't understand it, no matter how hard you try. And performing their hit, Orinoco Flow, sail away. You better believe it. Enia is here.

Oh, my God. Dun. Dun. Dun, dun. Beautiful. Fall off battle. Fall off fellow. Phyllis allot fool.

Falunzel saliselae salo sali silo Wait, is she actually singing She's not singing her language, is she? For that song? Is that like Gaelic or something? I don't think so. Or is she singing in English. Is that for Soselow?

Yeah. From Basal to Palau in the shade of Avalon. It's English. As long as it's English. From Fiji to Tyree and the Isles of Ebony. I can't really remember the tune that well, but yeah. Salaway. Beautiful place of music.

What a wild. Hits song as well. Excited to see that live. That's actually going to rule. That would actually be so fun. I think she'll open and close a set with it somehow. Would you believe that that's not even a most played song on Spotify? What is?

Really? Would you ought to guess another one? No. I reckon I'd know it when I hear it. Only 100 million more. Only time is the number of song. There you go. 300 million for only time.

What was her band called before that? What I'm? Some bigish band. Is it Enya and the Enyas? Ah, yes. Ah yes. And you're in the Eniars. Yes. Only time. We'll have to play that before we finish. But, um, yeah. Clanad?

Clan ad, that's right. Uh, okay. I googled it. Okay. There we go. So I'm going to read out these names. Scare of the mind. So if you hear your name, I'm going to lift the velvet rope on your way in. Dave's up on the stage, hopping up, obviously just behind the bar. Yep. Which is around at the side of the stage. We're then reaching distance. So Jessica can give Dave a reach around. Um, as in to tap him on the back to Reach around his back to tap him to. Yeah, yeah. No, we all understood. To say what a good job is done.

Well, that could bed. Yeah, come on. Come on. I think that's fine. And childish, this show? What are you talking about? I'm going to reply to that review. I wish you could.

No, because late at night you would and it would be regrettable. Hey, give us five-star reviews why don't you? Yeah. Come about that. I dare you. I mean, if you like it, if you don't like it, that's okay. You just don't have to listen. It would be wild if you got.

through this far if you haven't been in a joke, but I appreciate it for trying. A lot of hatelessness. I think if you give it three, four listens, three episodes, you know, 10 hours of your life. It's just like starting a new TV show. I always say that. You've got to give it three episodes. You've got us three episodes. Yeah.

Let us in. Anyway, so we've got nine names to read out. These people, once you're in, not allowed to leave, but no one's ever wanted to anyway. No one's ever requested it. Yep. So, Dave, are you ready to go? Ready to rock. Dave does a bit of weak word play based on either the...

I'm fucking believable. city they're from or their name. Just because you're amazing at naming boats. Yeah, come on, man. Come on. No, I'm just letting them know. I assume that's what you're trying to do. We all have our strengths.

Yeah, and Dave's is weak wordplay. Well, that's all I said. Okay. Yeah, but it's so weak, it's strong. I didn't like the tone. Okay. Let's apologize. I've only got one tone, Jess.

So if you don't like that one, I'm sorry, I can't help you. All right, here we go from Newtown in Victoria in Australia. It's Sarah full of them. Oh, my heart was feeling empty. But now my heart is feeling Sarah. From Watson in Louisiana in the United States, it's John Deney. It's elementary dear John Deney from Watson. Oh, that's good.

From Mertelford. Oh, beautiful town just outside of Bright. In Victoria, Australia, it's Dillon Old. Some would say the night is young, but I'd say the night is Dylan Old. And that is a good thing. Yeah, you want it to be Dylan old. From New Brighton in, I reckon Minnesota in the United States. it's Nicole Wood.

No, I didn't think that we were going to have any good people going tonight. But I'm trying to get to Wood somehow. Okay, no, you're going to. People ask if I wouldn't, if, if, if, if, if, if, people say to me, um, uh, uh, Jess's look. People say to me, I bet no one's brave enough to go into the club tonight. That's, that's also really, really cool. And I'd say, you know what, Nicole Wood?

Yes. Thank you. Yes, yes, yes. You got there with no help from that. Dreson, I gave him thinking time. From Dresden in Tennessee, the United States. Please welcome in. Stanton. Stanton, I'm a fanter.

From Houston, Texas in the United States, please welcome Kevin Moyer. Looking at the guest list, a lot of people say we have too many Kevin Cepens, but I say, we need moya, Kevin Moyer. Yes. That feels good. That feels good.

What more do you want? Yeah, but I want Matt to kiss my feet. Well, I think a simpler man would have done some sort of we have a problem. Shut up. No, that's what I'm saying. That would have been level one. Dave was operating up in a higher sphere. You're ridiculous.

From Port Allen. Also in Louisiana in the United States, two Louisianaans this week. It's Jay Cormack. I've actually made a request to any of tonight for the last chorus of the song which he could change it to Sailor J, Sailor J. Cormac. From Warrington in New South Wales, Australia is Julie Page. Turn the page! It's Julie Page's term. Yes, turn the page.

Page and Julie. From Milton Key. Pachy from Great Britain we got a two for here it's Chris and Sadie Chris and Sadie You are my

Cleaning lady Yeah but I want to get a bit of a rhyme With Miss Anne Okay sorry I was trying to help Because you seemed like you were flannering But oh what about this one Well the real Chris Chris and Sadie please stand up

Please stand up Please stand up It's like slim shady Fuck yeah And the great thing is Anya's now come out You can hear She's back by Clannett

And they're starting to play their version of the real slim shady. So good. And it's haunting. It's haunting. It is haunting. It's haunting. With a real Chris and Thady, please stand up.

Thank you so much. And welcome in. Chris and Sadie, Julie, J. Kevin, Stan, Nicole, Dylan, John and Sarah. That brings in an episode. That's a great bunch. Just a good crop. I bring it out of them.

We've done, this has been a big day. We did a phrase in the bar. We did something else. We've done three or four episodes today. And they've all been fun. They've all been fun, but we have lost our minds a little bit. So we have to get out of here, okay? But let me tell you before we go that you can follow us on social media at Do Go On Pod.

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We've had a TikTok for a little while, but we're putting videos up there a fair bit now. So if you're on TikTok, go give us a follow. That would be amazing. But also Instagram, you can find us on Facebook. We have a website which is do go on Pod. So if you want to stay up to date with live shows and all our other podcasts and suggesting a topic, that's the place to do it. And our web series on the SuperDod channel, it almost entirely be out by now, mid-bay or whatever.

mid to late May. It'd be a good chunk of it out. Oh yeah, there's definitely a chunk of it out. So if you just search, do go on the quiz show on YouTube, you should find it. And that's been a lot of fun, getting a lot of love. Yeah. They're totally separate from this show. But yeah, new topics, lots of guests, friends.

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That's Dave Warnocky. Now, boot this baby home, Dave, please. Hey, we'll be back next week with another episode before you know it, But until then, I'll say thank you so much for listening and goodbye. Bye later. Bye. God, we're really succinct to me. I want to get out of here, aren't we?

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