Two In The Think Tank - 447 - The Sinking of The Trashman

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

This episode takes us back to the 80s, when a group of sailors in their early 20s got a dream job - sailing a millionaire's yacht from Maine to Florida. But this voyage was anything but a dream ... This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 08:03 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus episodes in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Watch Do Go On The Quiz Show: https://youtu.be/GgzcPMx1EdM?si=ir7iubozIzlzvWfKSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/Check out our merch: https://do-go-on-podcast.creator-spring.com/  Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/lost-at-sea/I Shouldn’t Be Alive S1 E1 https://www.newsweek.com/we-just-hear-this-shrill-scream-then-it-was-over-sharks-1760348https://www.mamamia.com.au/shark-attack-stories/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Scaling_Kiley Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Number one on the charts, baby. We did it. You know how FM radio shows, if they hit the top, they're like so ostentatious about like, yeah, number one. we should definitely do that. Thirty four on the iTunes charts. Thirty four, baby. Woo. You know what I love, Dave, about how you start the show is you say your name and I go,

that's right. Because every episode I'm like, who's this? He's so familiar. Who is that? I need a context clue. We're in this room. I know him from somewhere. How do I know this man? I know, he's got something to do with Jess.

Yeah. But, and then you say, I'm Dave Warnke. That's it. That's it. That's Dave Warnke. That's Dave Warnke. And this is the Do Go On podcast. Or however you say that.

Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnke and as always, I'm here with any switches up the order so we don't get pissy. And then I say, oh, wait, what's my name again? And then you say, and it's so good. Yeah. Anyway. And I point.

Dave. Yes. Matt. You are so good at explaining that. Would you be as good at explaining the show? Wow. Yeah, for sure. So basically what we do here at Do Go On, the name of the program, is we take it in turns to report on a topic.

A program that's number one, baby! Whoa! A topic often suggested to us by one of the listeners, we go away, do a little bit of research, then bring it back to the group in a report. And the other two, they don't know what the topic is going to be. We always keep that a secret from each other. So Jess, to get us onto topic, as it is your turn to report, you're going to ask us a question. And my question is, what is the American word for rubbish? Oh, garbage.

No. In the trash. Trash. Where's garbage from? Well, they probably say garbage as well. Trash. Do they say garbage man? Yeah, they say trash compactor. Oh, no, I've fallen into the trash compactor.

What a way to die. Don't hit compact. Oh my god, I can't believe they throw out all these potatoes. We could have eaten those. You fucking monsters out there. Now I'm going to be mashed potatoes with these spuds. Oh my god. fucking monsters out there. Now I'm gonna be mashed potatoes with these spuds.

Oh my God. Some early master class in accent work. We gotta make some tater tots. They love tater tots. Oh no, my retainers in there. Oh my gosh, someone threw out their baby's pacifier. Put that in my mouth, I can feel pacified. Oh no, there's so many diapers in here.

I want my neck in diapers. If I can just crawl out, I can get to the sidewalk. And then I'm going to go for lunch. I can't wait to get to the cafeteria. And so Jess you're doing an episode about trash? About trash. Trash compactor? Well, no.

Oh, no, sorry. Yeah, trash. You threw it compactor and then retainer and then pacifier and it went from there. No, so I didn't really have a great way to get onto the topic because I knew you wouldn't have heard of it because this topic is about a yacht that was called the Trash Man. That's a great name for a yacht. Great name.

Yeah. So this is sort of about the voyage of the Trash Man. The voyage of the Trash Man. That sounds like some sort of about the voyage of the trash man. The voyage of the trash man. That sounds like some sort of sci-fi epic. Will that be the title of the episode, the voyage of the trash man? Probably not, but maybe. Because it doesn't give anything away, I guess. I'm intrigued.

Hard to say. So this has been suggested by a couple of people. It's been voted on by the Patreons, but it's been suggested by Emma from Melbourne and Melissa from Singleton in New South Wales. Interesting that it was two people from Australia that suggested this because it is an American topic. Oh, hence trash. Trash compactor.

Water. So I would love to tell you this story now if that's okay with you guys. Oh, God, sorry. I just got some cilantro in my eye over here. Oh, no, I've got some oregano. Oregano! Oregano! I really don't say it like we say it.

That's them doing us, oh no, mate, I've got some oregano in my eye! I've got some oregano in my eye. Craig, please come over and help me out. Quick, put on those aluminum gloves. I don't know why gloves are made of aluminum, but they are. Touchdown, the quarterback. This is fun for all of our American listeners. I just want, just before we get on,

we've got a rare, like, negative review, and I thought I'd read it out just to, just for any new listeners. Why would you read this? No, I just thought just for any new listeners. Okay, but am I gonna be hurt? No, we'll save them some time. OK.

They're doing they complain about the thing that. That we do. The people always complain about. I see. Not much depth is the title. Yeah. Two stars. Well, unlike a Chicago deep dish.

Which Matt described in a message to us as a lovely depth. Oh, lovely depth. Oh, how deep are they? Because you wanted to know. Yeah. Yeah. How deep are they? Well,, lovely dip. Oh, how deep are they? Because you wanted to know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How deep are they? Well, a lovely dip. They start off by giving us a suggestion for what we should have called the show.

Get on with it rather than do go on is what I was thinking. Wow. That's good stuff. If we could get on with it, we probably wouldn't do any of the riffs. That's what they want us to do. But that's not what the show should be called. That should be your show where you get on with it. We never promised, if we promised to get on with it, then we didn't. I'd understand the complaint.

Yes. Great. Great point. Based on the topics listed, I was expecting the show to be a bit more intelligent. Hosts somewhat sweary and childish humour. Fuck you. No desire to listen to another app. Fuck you. No desire to listen to another app. Fuck you. And yeah, that's what you are.

What am I? A garbage man. Look. I thought, I just thought it would be good to get that up the top in case someone listening is going, well, I'm looking for something intelligent. Yeah, we're not for you. We're not for you. That's just, I think it's a fair warning up the top.

And as Dave said, if we were called, get on with it. Yeah, we're not for you. We're not for you. I think it's a fair warning up the top. And as Dave said, if we were called get on with it and then we didn't, you'd have every right to be pissed. We have also never said we're historians or academics or intelligent people. We are comedians. Childish. We are childish. Childish comedians. Childish comedians. I think if it was called Get On With It, I would also expect a rambly show. Don't you reckon?

Yeah, because you'd be like, get on with it! Get on with it! And the do-go-on is that sometimes we use that to end a riff and get back to the topic. I think if anything, yeah, this show, if you wanted a show like that, look up shows that are called stuff like Just the Facts. Straight to the point. No fact. Look up podcasts by dull people and then you'll get the depth you want. We're just not the show for you.

And that's OK. I think there's we should do a second version of the show where we get AJ just to edit out all the crap. They'd be the shortest fucking episodes ever. Mate, there you go. You got if you want that, it's over there. Oh, that'd be so boring. Then they'd have a problem with that too, somehow, though, wouldn't they? Maybe. Anyway, sorry to derail. Yeah, if you fucking get on with it.

Get on with it. Get on with it. All right. They're from New Zealand, that person, so it should be. Say it like they would. Get on with it. Thank you so much. Sorry, AJ. And New Zealand. AJ, our editor, of course, is from New Zealand. He's from New Zealand. And we love AJ, but we hate New Zealand. It's a multi-country. I love New Zealand.

I love New Zealand. I love New Zealand. Shut up. Okay. While you're both having a drink, I'm going to just try and start. Good work. On a sunny October day in 1982, 24 year old Debbie Scaling was standing by a bank of pay phones on the docks of Annapolis Harbor in Maryland.

Debbie was an accomplished sailor having taken up sailing at an early age and began working on yachts as a crew member. The year before, in fact, she'd been the first woman to complete the Whitbread Round the World Race. It's now called the Ocean Race. It's a yacht race around the world, as the title suggested. It's held every three or four years. And during that race, she'd navigated some of the most difficult conditions on the planet. And as a result, she was already pretty well known in professional sailing circles. She was only 24. Debbie had been hired to crew a 58 foot sailing yacht called the Trash Man for a routine Maine to Florida transfer. Basically it had been sold from one millionaire to another

millionaire. And the second millionaire, or one of of them had made his money in like trash. And so he named his boat the Trash Man. Oh, okay. Because either way you see that job advertised, you know, crew needed for Trash Man. Oh, very funny. It's fun stuff. It's real.

Yeah. Yeah. And so the yacht had already sailed from Maine to Maryland and it was while they were docked in Annapolis Harbour that Debbie was looking for some help. The journey had not been going smoothly so far. So there's this really great article written by a journalist. I've got his name later, but it was published in Boston magazine. And I reference it a lot.

And so from that article, the boat's captain, John Lipeth, who was a heavy drinker, was passed out below deck when she first showed up at the South West Harbour dock in Maine to report for work. Soon after they set sail, they picked up the captain's girlfriend, Meg Mooney, because she wanted to come along for the trip. From Maine to Maryland, Lipoth rarely eased the sails and relied on the inboard motor, which consistently sputtered and needed repair. They'd struggled to pick up additional hands as they traveled south and Scaling knew they needed more qualified help for the difficult sail along the

coast of the Carolinas exposed at sea to high winds and waves. So while they're docked, she's thinking about who she could call to come and help on this job and she thought of her friend, Sarah Kavanagh. Sarah was also an accomplished and promising sailor who Debbie had met as part of the race the year prior. I'm not sure if they were on the same boat or just sort of, you know, all part of the race. But just as she was about to call Sarah, Debbie looked up and saw Sarah's 21 year old brother,

Brad, walking along the docks. That is, is that kismet? I don't know what kismet means. Is that right? Serendipitous, maybe? Might be serendipitous. So she's just she's going to go on the payphone and she goes, Hey, that's Brad. Yeah. She's like, I might call Sarah Kavanaugh.

Oh, that's Brad Kavanaugh right there. My God, Brad Kavanaugh is right there. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, Brad, come join the trash man. Hey, Brad, Brad, we're going to go trick or treating later. Brad, sorry if you can't understand me. I've just got to take out my retainer. Oh, so much better.

So what is it? What we call a retainer a plate, is that right? Or is that a different thing again? Yeah, we do call them plates or retainers. Retainer is a better word. Plate is good. It's already got a meaning. Take your plate out. Plate? Oh, now I can't think about it.

Yeah, I think I had a plate as a kid, as a teen. Yeah. Briefly. Yep. I outgrew mine and it's crazy. My teeth have moved. That's like a thing where you have the metal band around the front. Yeah.

Pulls them back a bit. Yeah. I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's different. But a plate you can remove, but brace. You're talking about braces, are you? No, retainer. Braces, I think.

I think they're called braces. You usually have a retainer after your braces to retain the shape of your teeth. So usually you'd wear it maybe while you're sleeping or something. Yeah, I don't know. And then I just stopped. My teeth were a long time ago. I might be misremembering. I can't remember they had braces back then. I think orthodontists have come a long way in the last few hundred years.

Yeah, that's probably true. Mine were made of wood. Yeah, but they look beautiful. Thank you so much. So yeah, she's like, she's going to call Sarah and then there's Sarah's brother and they come from a sailing family. So Brad's a, you know, pretty good sailor as well. Brad, you're, Brad will do. Crazy. And Brad was there with his friend, Mark Adams, who was a mid twenties Englishman who'd been, um, Kavanagh's occasional racing partner. They'd sort of, they'd sailed a bit together.

A job that Mark Adams had previously secured for them aboard a boat had fallen through and all they had to show for it was like 50 bucks each. So they were wandering around trying to see if they could get work. Oh, my God. Is this Kismet? Am I saying that? Are we both Googling Kismet? Have you heard the word Kismet before? Yeah, I have. Fate or destiny. Yes, you're right.

Yep. I think I've heard it in an American movie. It's Kismet. That's Kismet. So, yeah, they're looking for work and Debbie told the two young men that they needed extra hands on their crew. She introduced them to the captain, John. He offered them jobs and they happily accepted.

What a beautiful moment of serendipity. This is a lovely story. So nice. I love where this is going. But it would be a decision that Brad would soon regret. Oh, no. He's going to have some sort of workplace dispute, being underpaid. There's no HR on the boat.

Exactly. He's got nowhere to go. Oh, no. He's going to get seasick. Brad. God. He didn't know, but this Oh no, he's going to get seasick. Oh, Brad. God. He didn't know, but this is, yeah, the seas can get a bit rough. I said he was from a sailing family, but they mostly just had the boat in the backyard. Yeah. And practiced, but he'd never actually been on the ocean. A lot of anti-sailing. Okay, yeah, that took me a sec. In the backyard.

But that's good stuff. So- It was pretty- It was pretty good stuff. It made sense that that took you a sec. In the backyard. But that's good stuff. So it was pretty, it was pretty good stuff. It made sense that that took you a few seconds. It was pretty complicated. It was very high brow. And that's what you get at Do Go On. Okay. Might not be depth, but it is high brow comedy. That's true.

Mm-hmm. I'm offended by that. Oh, that review. Unbelievable, yeah. No, but I think that's what everyone, that's everyone on First Listen. Yeah, of course. Nearly every single person hates it. But if you really don't like something, just don't listen to it.

Yeah, I think that's what most people would do. I like the ones who stick with it and figure it out, like Marcel Blanche de Wilt did. Yeah, that's right. At first he was like, hmm. He was, he sent me a message very much like that. Yeah, get to the point more. Yeah. And now, he owes us everything. Yeah.

Everything he has is because of us. He begs to come on this show now. And so he can talk shit. And do the longest episodes. We'll check the calendar. OK, so picture it though. It's a crew of young people. They're all in their 20s.

They're sailing a millionaire's yacht down the East Coast of the US. Oh my- It's a dream job. This is like a reality show. So fun. This sounds fun. But unfortunately, two days into their voyage, a tropical storm formed off of Cape Fear in the Carolinas. Oh my god, that's already terrifying.

I know. The just the fact that Dave's framing of something being a dream is this is like a reality TV show. That's how great this sounds. My dream. Which one are you thinking of? None of them. Love Island? None of them would be fun.

They're great. You know, you walk around. He's been doing a lot of abseiling, fantastic abs, which they all have. Yes. Just like on a reality TV show. Yeah. The producers are whispering to you, be mean to that person. Please.

It'll be fun. Hey, you'll never believe what she said about you earlier. Oh my God. If you cry, I'll give you a hundred dollars. If you make them cry, I'll give you two hundred. Oh, and here's a half bottle of vodka. Yeah. What do you think about that?

Go. So yeah, there's a big tropical storm. It's whipping up massive violent waves out of nowhere. Like they're checking their charts. They're like, where the fuck did this come from? Oh my God. Cape Fear. Is this Kismet? I don't know if I'm using that right. No, now it's not right. violent waves out of nowhere. Like they're checking their charts. They're like, where the fuck did this come from? Oh my God. Kate Fear.

Is this Kismet? I don't know if I'm using that right. No, now it's not right. So Brad, they're rocking, like it's really heavy waves. Brad braced himself by pressing his feet and back between the walls of a narrow hallway. So he's sort of like pushing, bracing himself there to keep from being knocked down as 30 foot tall walls of water tossed the boat around the open ocean, the open seas.

The article I mentioned is by Kevin Koshwera and it was published by Boston magazine. This is a little chunk from that. He tells a story very well. As the storm continued, Kavanaugh grew increasingly angry at At 21 years old and less experienced than most of the others, he felt as though no one had a plan for how they were going to get out of this mess alive. He knew their situation was dire. The motor was dead for the third time on the trip, and they'd already cut off the wind-damaged main sail.

That meant nature was in control. They could only ride it out and hope to survive long enough for the Coast Guard to rescue them. Crewmates had been in contact with authorities nearly every hour since the early morning and a rescue boat was supposedly on its way. It's just a matter of time, Kavanaugh told himself again and again. Just a matter of time. Is he saying before they are rescued or before they die? He's probably hopeful. Like there's people coming.

It's all right. It'll be fine. This's all right. Yeah. It'll be fine. This will die down. Yeah. Yeah. And they're on, they're in a yacht. I'm pretty sure from memory, there were like cargo ships kind of in the area that were

asked to go help them. So it's like going to be a bigger ship. Hopefully can handle the waves a bit better. Right. After a while. They just come by and like picture them just scoop them up. You know, with a big nap. Yeah. Boat and all. Right. After a while they just come by and picture them just scoop them up, you know, with a big nap. Yeah, yeah. Boat and all. Yeah, yeah. There you go, little fella. Yeah, you can plonk it down. And they're like,

oh, thanks. Thanks. A big trawler or whatever. Yeah. Just picks them up. After a while, the storm settled into a predictable pattern. The boat would ride up a wave, tilt slightly to port side, then ride down the wave and ride itself for a moment. Oh my gosh. So they're kind of, they're really rocking. Um, they, so they, they, it would ride itself for a moment of stillness and quiet sheltered from the wind in the valley between mountains of water. So if you look to your left.

Water. Look to your right. Water. What if you look at the floor? Actually, sky. The boat's upside down. Glass bottom. It's a glass bottom boat.

It's beautiful. It's a submarine. So Brad began to relax and then the boat rose over another wave, tilted hard and never righted itself. Watching the dark waters of the Atlantic approach with terrifying speed through the window in front of him, Kavanaugh braced for impact. And instant later, water shattered the window and began rushing into the boat. He jumped up from the floor with a single thought.

He had to rouse Scaling from her bunk room. He had to get everyone off the ship. She was asleep. Oh, he was going to rouse her? Yeah. Wow, that's a deep sleeper. If you have the best sea legs in the world, you can just sleep through anything. Isn't that crazy?

Or is she like in a hammock or something? So it's always, you know, just riding itself? She's still, yeah. Isn't that wild? So he's thinking, I have to get everyone off the ship. The trash man is going down. Oh my God. Not the trash man.

Trash man by name. Trash, you know what trash does? Sinks. Does it? Depends on what the trash is. Trash. You know what trash does? Sinks. Oh, wow. Depends on what the trash is. What if it's like a broken yacht? That's going down. That's going down. Brad burst into Debbie's cabin together while Mark went and got John and Meg.

The five of them huddled together at the foot of the stairs as water rose around them. John tried to get to the radio to call for help, but the water was rising too fast and he couldn't get to the radio to call for help, but the water was rising too fast and he couldn't get to the radio. Shit. They climbed up on deck of the yacht and started to take action to abandon ship. Mark frantically struggled to open the pressurized canister that holds the life raft and survival gear. I didn't know that.

It's like in a little pressurized canister you can open that and it just sort of goes like, ta! Oh, cool. Like, yeah, I was going to say an inflatable thing, you know. Which is exactly yes. So he's trying to get that but he's struggling to open it. But the Life Raft has survival gear with it, so it's got a first aid kit, emergency food and drinking water, emergency beaconing device that planes would be able to pick up on, it

might have flares, all sorts of stuff. That'd be a great version of, you know the old trick of like,, here's have some nuts and you open the nuts and snakes pop out. Yeah. But you go here, have some have some nuts and a boat. But you're all going down at the top. There's no time for nuts now. Open the nuts! Open the nuts! It's a really good bit.

Yeah. But you won't you won't break it. It'll be worth it. Just do it. I've got no time for nuts. You have to trust me. You have to trust me. Throw in the nuts. Oh, no, you gotta throw the nuts into the water. No. It's a funny bit.

You've ruined it. Open the nuts. It was going to be really funny and it would have saved our lives. But great. Great. You've ruined it. I guess all that's left to do is pull my finger. Pull my finger.

Pull my finger. I also turn into a life raft. Look, I can save you. All you have to do is pull my finger. So Mark's struggling to get the life raft open. And in the meantime, Brad goes towards the other option, which is this small 11 foot red and black Zodiac Mark II. It's a little dingy.

And that's not pressurized. It's ready to go. It's ready to go. It's ready to go. But the motor for it is attached to the yacht. So he's sort of like got the, the motor is attached, but it's, the yacht is sinking too fast. Oh no. Oh no, no, no.

So Brad loses grip of the dinghy slightly. It floats off a little bit, but luckily not too far. So he makes the swim for it, getting out to the dinghy slightly. It floats off a little bit, but luckily not too far. So he makes the swim for it, getting out to the dinghy fairly quickly. Doing that fun thing where you put the pull toy in and then you jump onto it. Like a like a inflatable whale or something. Yeah, and you always fall off.

Bit of fun. Mark Adams had less success with the life raft though. A strong gust of wind ripped the life raft out of his hands and the sinking yacht started to take the raft and its emergency food, water rations and first aid kit down with it. Oh no no no. That doesn't sound like a great system. It should be able to get it very easily. Yeah. But then if it's too easy, what's to stop you if like the- you hit a wave and you fall back and you knock it and out pops your life raft.

You can't just fold it back up and put it back in like a- like a- Yeah, but it does sound like maybe there's like a happy medium between impossible in an emergency and if you accidentally lean on it, it pops out. Yeah, there's got to be somewhere in between. You're right. So Brad yelled to the others to grab a hold. Maybe if you have to sing something like a certain key. Ah, I'm a horny, a horny, horny, horny.

So horny, horny, horny, horny. Oh no, you're flat. Yes, no. Pitch up, oh my god. Needs to be perfect pitch. Oh no, I'm trying to get through it quickly and it's like, no. That's not it. Terrible rhythm.

Oh my god. Why did we choose this song? Annunciate, annunciate. It's so inappropriate right now. I'm not horny. I'm very scared. Why were we singing that as children? So Brad yells to the others to grab a hold of the raft. He yells to the others, suck shit.

Bye. He's like, the yacht is going to suck everything down with it, so you've got to get away from it. Ah, yes. Like Leo said. Like the Titanic. I've learnt so much from that film. The crew made it onto the dinghy with nothing but clothes on the back. They had nothing with them.

As they turned around, the last visible piece of the trash man disappeared beneath the ocean. Goodbye, trash man. Valet. Valet trash man. The five of them had made it to the dinghy, but they had nothing. No food, no water, no radio, no motor. Oh yeah, they're just sort of floating on something, aren't they? And remember, the reason the yacht sank was because of horrendous weather conditions, which are still happening.

Oh no. So it didn't suck down all the waves with it? It didn't take the waves down with it. Damn it. Is Brad still just in the hallway of the dinghy? Just bracing. You're bracing. Annoyed at everyone else? He actually genuinely was very mad at everybody else.

They've had no plan. Yeah. And that, yeah. So the five of them, they're in the water, they're holding onto the lines around the zodiac. Because if they turn the boat around the right way, the wind will blow it over. Oh, so they're actually floating in the water. They're floating in the water, holding on.

The dinghy is upside down. They're holding on. Plus, the wind is about four degrees Celsius, so 40 Fahrenheit, and they're all wet. So, if they were in the dinghy, they'd quickly become hypothermic. So, they're staying in the water. The water is actually warm up because the wind will... Chill factor's crazy. Yeah.

Right. As the storm calmed down slightly, they were able to duck under the boat and take cover from the wind using the pocket of air underneath to breathe. Oh my God. Well, that sounds very smart, but you also can't see the waves now coming. So you're kind of just sort of hoping for the best, right? I guess this is as it's calmed down a little bit. And yeah, if you're just underneath and holding on, you just kind of go with the waves, I

guess. Oh wow, that's so scary. So scary. When I've been snorkeling recently and wearing a flotation device and going with the waves, I've thrown up. So yeah, it wouldn't be very nice. Oh my gosh, you'd be kicked out of the boat for sure. Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, all that chum you're spreading out, sharks will be there in no time. Yep. So Brad devised a plan for the crew to seek shelter on the underside of the zodiac, yet remain out of the water, because the water is cold. So this took me ages to try and understand. I needed to watch an episode of I Shouldn't Be Alive, where they dramatically reenacted it to kind of understand. I shouldn't be alive, and I'm not. And as it turns out, I'm not.

I don't know if I remember, is this day or night? Just to get my picture right. I think this is night. Night, yeah. So he grabbed a wire on the raft and he ran it from side to side, kind of to make like a net or a hammock type thing. And he and one of the others lay across the wire, allowing them to lift most of their bodies out of the water, but still be underneath the dinghy. They're kind of lying.

And then the others would sort of pile on top of them. So they were all kind of out of the water, but they were huddled together. So they're all underneath still. Yep. So their body heat was, I think Meg wasn't. Meg was outside. So Meg wasn't a sailor. She was there for the ride and there for, like, the adventure with her boyfriend.

She had no sailing experience. And because of that, they're like- And she was terrified. You haven't earned the right to be in the net. No, she couldn't, she couldn't, she couldn't, like, put her head under to get under the dinghy. She was too scared. Oh, so she was just out in the open. I think so. Next to too scared. Oh, so she was just out in the open. I think so.

Next to the raft. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so yeah, they're all there, like huddled up together so their body heat can keep them somewhat warm. Hang on. When you said Meg, you didn't mean the Megalodon. There's a Meg just outside the dinghy. Don't let that Meg in here.

Don't let that Meg in here. No room for you, Meg. So they sort of layered up. They were able to stay warm, kind of. But when the oxygen underneath the zodiac ran out, they'd exit, lift the boat just long enough to allow new air into that little pocket. Oh my gosh. And they'd go back under again. It's very smart.

Yeah. I would never think of something like that, but that's also awful. Yeah. Yeah. What it sounds like they've all gone through this before. Like, yeah, we're just, you know, just remembering our training. Yeah. We made a wire net so we could all lie upside down underneath the dinghy.

Yeah. It's pretty wild. But are they, this is just, this isn't like common wisdom or anything. They're- This is Brad thinking of like, how do we- It's improvising. Yeah. So they're lucky Brad's with them.

Yep. Absolutely. So they kind of did that throughout the night. And the next morning, John, Lipov, the captain, unexpectedly swam out from underneath the Zodiac to find fresh air. He said he felt like he was having a heart attack. He refused to go back under. It was just too much.

The storm had calmed a little bit, but a cool autumn breeze was sucking the heat from their wet bodies and Brad wanted the crew to stay under the boat to keep warm but everybody else disagreed and they, his crew mates decided to flip the boat right side up and climb on board. This was probably one of the best decisions Brad's crew mate could have made because soon after they noticed three tiger sharks circling the dinghy. Wow.

From all Jess's spew. And I'm sorry about it. They've got a taste for it now. I'm great to snorkel with because you want to see fish, I'll bring them. And then I have to get out of the water please, I feel good. And was Brad still underneath? No, they'd all gotten- They flipped it over and he's still underneath. He's like, no, no, no, I'm doing mine. This is my idea. There's no air pocket.

He's just so stubborn. Brad, there's three sharks. I don't know what to do. I don't clear. Back from that article by Kevin again, Moony, that's Meg, had accidentally gotten caught on a coil of lines and wires while abandoning the yacht, leaving a bloody gash behind her knee. Everyone else had their cuts and scrapes too, and the sharks had followed the scent.

The largest shark in the group began banging against the boat, then swam under the craft and picked it up out of the water with its body before letting it drop back down. Oh! They're being terrorised by a shark. And so they just fly into the air for a little bit and then back down. Yeah. It sounds like a bully. Yeah.

Tiger shark. They're having a really bad day, do you bit and then back down. Yeah. It sounds like a bully. Yeah. Tiger shark. They're having a really bad day. Do you mind? Yeah, guys. Jesus. These sharks. Not now, guys. OK? Yeah, we're out of time. We're being through it. Yeah. Tough time. Come back later.

The crew grabbed onto the sides of the zodiac while Brad and Debbie tried to fashion a makeshift anchor out of a piece of plywood attached to the raft with metal wire, hoping it would help steady the boat. But no sooner had they dropped the wood into the water than a shark bit it and began dragging the boat at full speed like some twisted version of a joyride. He's saving them. Yes. Is he taking them to shore? That's so nice.

I thought he was a shark and not a dolphin. Dolphins tend to, they can help people sometimes. Yeah. Hey, and why can't tiger sharks? Why can't tigers? Do they get such a bad rap for being quite aggressive, apparently? Yeah. Is that their fault?

That's who they are. It's not their fault. They're trying to help you. You're having a go at them for being their true selves? Geez. Take a look at yourselves, Brad. I'm picturing Brad from 90s episodes of Neighbours, who got attacked by a shark at one point. So this feels right.

Wow. Is it based on Brad? I wonder if this was based on Brad. I would assume so. Because it's the 80s. Yes, it's 82. Took 10 or so years. Long blonde locks?

Yes. Yeah. But they're being dragged by a shark. Yeah. That is so wild. So wild. Do you think the other sharks like, drag him, Kevin? Drag him.

Drag him. Drag him. Yeah, probably. And then they dragged him. That's where that phrase comes from. And then eventually they said, let it go, Kevin, because he did. You let it go. And they reeled in their makeshift anchor.

They're like, okay, it's not- We won't do that anymore. We won't throw out the jet ski line for the shark. Yeah. They meant it to be an anchor, but it turned into a fishing line. Yeah. And a very effective one. It happened immediately. They should have caught, reeled it in. Dinner. Yes. Oh yeah. If you could just pull that shark into the boat. It's like an 11 foot dinghy with five of them in it.

I don't think there's room for a shark as well. Not, yeah, maybe not in the boat, but in their tums. Yeah. Yeah, but you still have to think about the weight of the shark. They eat the whole shark in their tums. OK, now we're weight shaming. These people are trying to survive. So they have shark circling. They have no motor, no food or water, no radio. But long before the trash man sank, they'd radioed the coast guard and a rescue boat

was on its way. Yeah. So they knew that if they just stay calm and keep the boat upright, they can make the day alive. They'll be okay. Helps on the way. Unknown at the time was that a boat had been on the way to rescue the group, when for some reason, a miscommunication or we don't know, the search was either forgotten or called off. Forgotten. Hey, what were we doing again? What were we doing again? We were going after that spot. What was that for?

Yeah. Like in the middle of the night, you've gone in the fridge, open the door. What were we doing here? What are we doing here? Yeah. And then you go, oh, peanut butter sandwich. That's right. Sandwiches.

That's what had happened. Drifting off. And now no one was coming for them. Oh my God. But thankfully, they don't know that. At least you have the false hope. True. To keep your spirits up. So, the five crew members of the trash man floated in the sea for several days.

Oh my gosh. No water. A waiting rescue. No water. Brad tried to keep his mind and body busy and do what he could to keep them alive. What was he doing? He pulled seaweed on board to use his blankets. He flipped the boat to clean out urine and fetid water that accumulated in it. I'm just pissed off the side, Brad. Jesus.

Just pissing in the- What about the girls? Hang your butt over. Does that look like him? That's how I'm picturing. Matt's just looked up Brad from 90s Neighbours and he could not look more different.

OK. Well, I mean, obviously the, you know, for TV they had to give him a certain look. Long-bonded mocks. Yeah. He looks very 90s heartthrob though. Absolutely.

But yeah, they're real. Like, have you seen any biopics or anything? They always look a little hotter on the big screen. Yeah. Of course they have to. They have to. They have to. Everyone looks hotter on the screen.

That's why I'd have, you know, David Wenham would play me on the big screen. Yes. Even hotter than me. It's hard. There's not many. No. There's not many layers to go up, actors wise. Yeah. You get basheemi for you, Dave. That's right. Couple levels up.

Yeah. Beautiful man. They call him Hollywood Dave in LA. Do you know that? Yeah, yeah, I've heard that. I started that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Guess who you're getting? Kate Blanchett. Is there anyone hotter than you? Hmm. Yeah, I think that's a sideways movement.

It's Andrew Bullock. OK. OK. I also want someone 20 years older than me. Yeah. That's, I've also got an older, oh no, there's no one older than me. You're older, there's no one older than you. Yeah. Sorry. I get confused sometimes in my old age. So did you miss the part about rinsing the piss out of the boat? I did. I was looking up Bradford neighbors.

But we're really glad you did. Neighbors being a soapy. Yes. Yeah, what do you call it? A soapy? It's a soap. It's a soap opera. It's Australian soap. Which got nominated for an Emmy for the first time this year. Is that because Misha Barton's on it now?

I guess so. Probably on the international radar. I think it's also out on Paramount, like an American company, I think funded it. Putting it forward for awards. Maybe it's Amazon? Maybe Amazon, yeah, one of those. I think it's Paramount. This is wild, because I'm trying to like build a lot of drama. And we're talking about one of the great dramas in the modern era. No, no, no. I'm just very interested.

I mean, to be fair. And your ability to just sidetrack. The only drama he's missed is that Brad keeps lifting the boat to wash out all the piss. Yeah, so this is how they do it. And I said, why is Brad pissing in the boat? Yep. Brad piss. That's not a bad like porn star name if they were focusing in- Brad piss.

Brad piss. Like Brad Pitt. Oh, I didn't get it. He didn't get it? I didn't get it. I don't know how. So they're a Brad Pitt lookalike, but they focus on golden shells. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That way he took a breath. He thought about it more. I need a breath before I'm going to vomit. Brad Pitt. I'm gonna vomit. Bradpiss! They're as good looking as Bradpiss! They're so hot! They're like, I just do porn. I'll just do urine porn.

That's so funny. I just do urine porn. Bradpiss! That's so funny. I just see urine porn. Bread piss. I think there's something in that. If it's not clear to the listeners by now, we've been recording a few episodes today. And I'm starting to see what that person was talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it, but look, plenty of people like us. I get it, I got it from the start.

Yeah, I get it. I thought it was going to be some sort of intelligent joke. Cut to 40 minutes in. Brad. Brad first. But Jess was like, yeah, what? It's like, OK. The connection there is. No, sorry. No, I... Are you okay, Dave?

I need a minute. Are you gonna be sick? I feel like I'm gonna spew. I don't think I've seen Dave laugh before. No, it's nice. It's nice. I like it. I'm crying.

I like it. You're gonna be sick. So funny. Brad piss. So, Jess is about to tell us in detail, she's gonna build the drama by telling us how they wash the piss out of the boat. Yes. All right. We'll give you a clear run here.

First, they'd check for sharks, which I think is a great step one. In the piss? Sharks in the piss. They'd look in the bottom of the boat and go, no sharks here. Then two of them is usually Mark and Brad. They'd lean back and tug on a wire that would flip the boat. They'd rinse it out. I think it must, everybody would, maybe they jump out and then they flip it or yeah.

That would make sense. You can't just flip it with all of them in there. Meg refuses to jump out of her feet. Well, you're getting flipped. So they flip it out, get all the piss out, flip it back up. Everybody gets back in. And they do that periodically. As you can imagine, with no food and no drinking water, things became pretty dire fairly quickly.

Can I- I missed- why is there so much piss in there? Why aren't they pissing overboard? OK, that's what Dave said. That was my feedback. But then, like, it's harder- girls, we can aim, kind of. Yeah. But we don't have an external appendage. No, no.

To be able to, like- Sheephees weren't invented yet. Exactly right. But if you have to jump out of the boat to wash the piss out every two hours, why not just jump in the water, take a piss and then jump back in? Yeah, maybe. But also, like, they've all got, like, sores and stuff like that, and there is water in the boat. So just the water is a bit yuck. So they got to change it over anyway. Yes. So may as well piss inuck. So they got to change it over anyway. Yes.

So Mays will piss in it. Mays will piss in it. And is it piss good for like wounds or something? Yeah. Jellyfish. So it's fine. So- I bet this was Brad Piss' idea.

Don't start him again. He nearly threw up. It's okay. So they're all obviously very dehydrated, but Mark Adams and John Lipov. You think you're Brad Piss again. So, they're all obviously very dehydrated, but Mark Adams and John Lipov. You think you're Brad Piss again. Are you thinking about Brad Piss again? It's such a funny- And then a little, yeah.

Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay, they're all dehydrated. That's not- there's nothing funny about that. Honestly, they should have been drinking that piss. They've wasted good piss. Dehydrated piss is pretty full on, isn't it? That's like when it's orange and- It's pretty dark.

That versus nothing. But Mark and John are kind of more severe than the others. Both had been drinking quite heavily while on the yacht. Oh dear. Lipoth had been chain smoking too. So the two men were already ahead of the rest of their crewmates when it came to dehydration. They were pretty bad. Meanwhile, the cut on Meg's leg was infected and pussy and she became really sick from the infection. The boat was small. They didn't have much room to spread out. They all developed body sores, likely from staph infections they all had.

Brad's skin became so tender that even brushing up against another person sent a current of pain through his body. Oh my God, this is a nightmare. You're wet from salt water. You've got the sun all day long. You must be burnt and they've got sores all over them. Yeah, sitting in a pool of piss. Sitting in piss and pus and stuff infections are very contagious.

So you're all just sitting there tight together in a pool of filth. You're going to get sick. After three days without food and water and using their energy to hold on to the zodiac during the storm, they were all completely spent. By this point, they figured that no one was coming for them, or at the very least, they'd floated so far that rescue crews couldn't find them. They figured their only hope was washing up on shore, but they didn't know that they had actually floated further out to sea. Oh no. Into the pond.

It's all bad. So the shark actually dragged them away from her. Yeah. It was a shark, not a dolphin for sure. Yeah, dolphins would go, you need to eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. . So the next day in desperation, Mark Adams and John Lippoth began relieves you of a bit of dehydration, but we know that drinking seawater can make you a little bit mad. And I knew that, but I didn't know why. So I looked into it. Why?

And from howstuffworks.com. It says, human kidneys can only produce urine that's slightly less salty than salt water. So in order to remove the extreme amount of sodium taken in by salt water, we urinate more than we actually drank. So you're pissing more than you're taking in. You're Brad pissing more. So it just sucks you dry. Yeah. It dehydrates you faster. And so if you're guzzling seawater, this is still from How Stuff Works, you aren't taking in any water, but incurring a net loss

leading to depleted body fluids, muscle cramps, dry mouth, and more thirst, you're even thirstier. So the body tries to compensate for fluid loss by increasing the heart rate and constricting blood vessels to maintain blood pressure and to flow to vital organs. You're also likely to feel nausea, weakness, and even delirium. As you become more dehydrated, the coping mechanisms fail. If you still don't drink any water to reverse the effects of excess sodium, the brain and other organs receive less blood, leading to coma, organ failure and eventually death." So it's really serious.

That's good. Good message. I wouldn't have thought to drink salt water anyway, but- Yeah, definitely don't. But I wonder, even if you know that, if you're so thirsty in that instance, you just see that water and go- I'll just have a bit. Yeah. And it's just like, just for now. I care about right now.

Yeah, you're that thirsty that you just can't logically think this is actually worse. And the kit in the, with the proper life raft would have stuff you can use to make seawater drinkable. Oh, that just sunk to the bottom. Yeah, it's gone. They don't have that. So that's- That little desal plant. Yeah, kind of. So that's how- Yeah, I knew that drinking seawater made you a bit loopy, but I didn't really know why.

It's just like extreme dehydration, I suppose. And if you've ever been even mildly dehydrated, it's awful. It's very bad. So yeah, things aren't going to go too well here. So back to the dinghy. Soon enough, delusions began. Within eight hours, they reckon, Lipov started reaching around the bottom of the boat looking for supplies that didn't exist.

We brought cigarettes. Where are they? He asked. Then Lipov began trying to convince Meg that they were going to take a plane to Maine where his mother worked at a hospital. We're going to Portland, he told her. I'm going to get the car. I want you guys to pick up the boat and I'll come out and get you.

Lipov said before sliding over the edge of the Zodiac and into the water. Oh, okay. Debbie told Brad he had to go get John, but Brad, none of them had any energy. They're, they're so depleted. so depleted, they can't move. So they try to coax John back onto the boat, but it was too late. The wind pulled the boat away from John and soon he drifted out of sight. He was going to fly to Maine. Yeah.

Did he? Was it a seaplane? No. Did he see a plane? There was no plane. But he, yeah, right. So he just lost his marbles there from the- Yeah. Wow.

Just from the salt. And he survives? Or is that to be a twist later, hopefully? Well from Boston Magigan, across the empty expanse of the ocean, Kavanaugh could hear Lipoth's last howls as the sharks attacked. Oh my god. No! No! Oh wow. Kevin I could hear Lipov's last howls as the sharks attacked. Oh my god. No, no. Oh, wow. I thought he was just going to like, you know, quickly drown because he's sort of lost his mind.

No. He was eaten. Jeez. I mean, in some ways, is that better or worse? I don't know. I'd rather quickly drown. Drowns meant, if I heard that right, drowning is actually a pretty peaceful way to go. Apparently, but I still I don't like the idea of it. I would take it over four sharks pulling you apart.

Yeah. But if they get you apart real quick, I guess. Yeah, then it'd be quick. Who knows? But horrendous. Being delirious is probably a good starting point, at least, maybe. I don't know. So which guy was this? John, the captain. That's the captain. El Capitano is gone. And so now there's four of them remaining, floating in the middle of the ocean.

I must say that I took for granted too much the can't believe we're still alive thing that you said before. I assumed that they all survived, but not. Oh, the show. I'm starting to think John probably- Not part of the- The show I shouldn't be alive. Yeah.

I getcha. It's not we shouldn't be alive. Yeah, it get you. It's not we shouldn't be alive. Yeah, it's I. Yes. Only one has to make it. I was cocky. I'll say that. I was cocky after that.

That this was a survival tale. And look, in some ways it is. Four to go. Yep. So the remaining four there, they're in the middle of the ocean. They're lost. They're losing hope. And that's not good for morale, is it? Your captain's just been eaten by a shark. Meg is John, is it? Your captain's just been eaten by a shark.

Meg is John's girlfriend, so her boyfriend's just been eaten by a shark. Oh, Meg. Right. But in a practical sense, I guess it's one less person in the boat. Yeah. Is he looking for a silver lining? I think... But it's not like they're taking up supplies. There's no supplies to begin with. Yeah, that's true. Taking up some space, they can spread out a little more now, I guess. This leg room is fantastic.

Yeah. But yeah, now you wouldn't want to even eat the sharks if you could, because you don't- then you'd be eating John. Yeah, that'd feel weird. Yeah, that would feel disrespectful. And remember, Mark was drinking seawater as well. Right. So he's- So he's pretty delirious too.

Apparently, he was like hitting on Meg, whose boyfriend had just died. Inappropriate. Proposing that sex would cheer her up on a boat, on a tiny dinghy. There's no space, mate. And she obviously rebuffed. And so he decided to take his party elsewhere. This is from, that's Kevin. Kevin's great writing.

Great, Kavanaugh recalls him saying, if we're not going to have sex, I'm going back to 7-Eleven to get some beers and cigarettes. You're not going, Brad said. We're out in the middle of the ocean. I know, I know. I'm just going to hang over the side and stretch out a little bit. I'll get back in the boat.

Brad turned to speak to Debbie, and by the time he turned back, Mark was gone. So Mark's gone too. The sea water was just- So he's just gone over the edge and then floated away. Slippery slope, but that was the two guys. Same as John. Oh Sharks again sharks again, so they're nearby. Yes

Hopefully they're full now and will true. You know, I would hope so but the three was they're getting a taste for They would be very aware of where let's just keep following Well, yeah the three remaining castaways spent the rest of the evening being knocked around as the sharks bumped and prodded the boat. Oh my God. How strong is this boat? It's like a- It's an inflated dinghy. Yeah.

So it feels like it's a shark could tear through it. If it wanted to, it could bite it or something. Yeah. So two were gone quite quickly. That is grim. Yeah. So that night Meg was particularly unwell, the effects of her infection taking over her body. At one point she was speaking in tongues. In the morning, Brad and Debbie woke to find Meg lying on her back, arms outstretched, staring at the sky.

She'd been dead for a few hours, I guess. Oh! This is the infection that killed her. Oh my gosh. Brad and Debbie removed Meg's shirt so they'd have another layer to keep warm and her jewellery so they could return it to her family. They still hoped that they would have that chance. And then they pushed her body off the raft.

Right. Just because it was, yeah, right. I mean, otherwise, what are you going to have? Sit there all day in the sun, you know, the next few days of you. Yeah, yeah. Thinking of the family. Yeah, that is, I mean, what a decision I have to make. I know. And they're not thinking.

They're not thinking. No. They're thinking it's a matter of time for us too, probably. This is like, this is, I think day five. Yeah. They haven't eaten, they haven't had water. They're so weak, they're so sick themselves. You're not thinking.

But them sleeping through the night is nice, at least. I know, but it's- Because, yeah, at least they're getting some rest. You're right about Brad being like this, that running into her on the dock changes life. He just hadn't have run into her. She would have called the sister and maybe it would be a different story. You know, so many things change in that reality. They had to wait for Sarah to get there so they left a few days later when the weather

was better. Who knows? Yeah, so many little things that just- The kind of things that you would hate to have to run through in your mind over and over again. Yeah. Which is why, you know. And when the weather started to turn bad, they realised that the captain didn't have

charts for like the closest bay or like area they could get to. So he was really underprepared. So he was underprepared. So then they, that's why they had to call a coast guard to send somebody out to sort of guide them in. If they just had the charts, when the weather got really bad, they could have turned and just dumped somewhere, but they didn't have that. Like it was a whole bunch of things that went wrong.

This is why Brad was annoyed. He was just annoyed that like, Mark and John had been just drinking the whole time, so they weren't doing their jobs properly. So he and Debbie were always having to like pick up the slack and he was the youngest and the least experienced, but he's sort of like, no, if you were fucking doing what you're supposed to be doing. Hard not to think that, yeah, drinking on the job probably wouldn't have helped either. Yeah. I didn't realise, in my head, I think I missed that.

But the fact that it was the captain who was one of the guys who was drunk. Yeah, it wasn't, when they arrived for the first time on the boat, he was passed out, wasn't he, the captain? Yeah. Right. He was a big drinker. He's a salty old sea dog. He was like, he was like 23.

Oh, he's like, he was, they were all young. Oh, right. Right. Oh, even the captain's young. They were all like early mid-20s. I mean, I think the captain is like, he's like, he was, they were all young. They were all, they were all like early mid twenties. I think the captain is like, you know, like a 60 year old veteran. No. Who's just becoming alcoholic. Going down with the ship.

They're all just kids. And that's why like Meg's just young. Her boyfriend's sailing this yacht. That's what I told you. It's like an awesome reality show. Yeah. Yeah. I know.

As it's going on, it feels more like a reality show to me. Yeah. It's such a wild story. You're getting voted off one by one. It feels like the plot of a horror movie. Yes. Which, and I hate those kind of movies, but it was just such a fucking amazing story that it just kept going.

Anyway, so three of them have died within a fairly short period of time, really. So now it's just Brad and Debbie left in the dinghy. They were starving, exhausted, dehydrated, covered in sores, like I was saying before. Debbie was concerned that they were sitting in infected water in the dinghy, because Meg had just died from her infection, and she's like, we need to flip the boat and rinse it out. Cause saltwater is good. Is it a good disinfectant? Am I making that up? Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

It's good for cuts and stuff, don't they? So yeah, hopefully that could help. But yeah, those sharks are far away as well. So all that in the back of your mind, but it makes it. And the other thing is of course, you know, not, not, it's so awful for everyone. But it is interesting that the two most diligent members of the team are the two that have survived. Yeah. Not that anyone else is expecting a disaster to happen.

And Debbie's like an extremely experienced sailor, isn't she? Yeah. Like, sailed across the world. She's also 24. Yeah. But has dealt with- would have dealt with all sorts of awful conditions. Yeah. But normally in an upright yacht. Yeah. I probably sat out all night, wet and cold. Yeah. Yeah. But I would be there going, I just reckon I'll jump in, get out. Yeah. I can't- I would imagine that the majority of people just landed in that situation would be dead by now.

Yeah. Yeah. Don't you think? Sure. It's like, how do you survive? That is- it's awful every element of it, but there's- just the mental toughness of them is crazy, but the physical, all of that, I don't think many would have would have survived day five. Yeah. And so, yeah, Debbie's sort of pushing to like flip the boat and clean it out. But Brad kind of initially pushes back because he's like, I don't have the energy. I can't do it by myself. I'm too, I'm just too weak and tired. But she kept, she kept sort of pushing. So he reluctantly agrees to try. She wasn't going to, why wouldn't she help? It was, it used to be him and Mark doing it. Right. Maybe Debbie's smaller. So he's standing on the edge of the Zodiac.

He tugged the wire, tried to flip it, but he didn't have the strength to do it. As he gave it another tug, he lost his balance and fell into the water. And this is the first time he truly felt panic. Because this entire time everybody else has been panicking. He's been trying to stay really calm, but he panicked because in the last maybe 15 hours, every time someone ended up in the water, they were eaten by sharks. So he tried to get back on the boat. He didn't have the strength.

Debbie tried to help, also didn't have the strength and was so overcome with emotion that she sat sobbing uncontrollably on the other side of the raft, paralyzed. Remember they are unwell, both of them at this time. He yelled at her to help, but she couldn't. And eventually he managed to master the strength and wheel himself over the side of the dinghy. Oh, thank goodness. He got back in. He was winded. He was exhausted. He was seething. He was so mad.

This is from Kevin again. The entire time from when they were on the trash man with a drunken crewmate during the storm and throughout their harrowing journey on the zodiac, Scaling and Kavanaugh had upheld a pact to look out for each other, to protect each other from the sharks, the madness, the others. How could she have left him there in the water? How could she have let him down? They were supposed to be a team.

Now on their fifth day without food or water, he couldn't even look at her. There were two of them left, but he felt alone." He's pissed and she's just inconsolable, like, and I don't- I understand both of them. Did the- Did- Was he able to clean the boat or that? I don't fully understand. How do you clean the boat if she's not getting out? I can't quite picture it. Yeah, I don't know.

I'm not sure how that was working that time. I'm sure. So they sat in cold, uncomfortable silence until Brad saw something in the distance. A ship. Now, it wasn't the first ship they'd seen in the five days. They'd seen a few, but the others had been too far away or it had been too dark for them to be seen. And again, they don't have that emergency kit, which would have flares, which would have beacons, which have lights, something to attract attention. They didn't have any of that. So in the dark, they would see the lights of a ship. But if the ship can't see them.

No hope. There's no hope. And this is all the kit that went down with the boat that they couldn't release. Yep. I reckon they've probably fixed that up. It had rations in it. It had water, but also stuff that you could use to make sea water drinkable. It had a slab of beer.

It had a slab of beer. It had a deck of cards. A deck of cards. Keep you occupied. It had sunscreen. Yeah, so they'd seen- Had a costume box. They'd seen ships.

Had a dress up. Yeah. Had somewhere to piss. Somewhere to piss. Had a toilet. It was beautiful actually. It was inflatable'd seen ships. Yeah. Had somewhere to piss. Had a toilet. It was beautiful actually. It was gorgeous.

So anyway, but this time it was close and Brad could see someone on the deck and he waved and the guy waved back. So he's like, I know we can be seen this time. Crew members through lines with large glass buoys. Glass buoys? I know, I couldn't picture that. But they all landed short, splashing in the water too far away. Undeterred, the men on deck pulled the rescue boys back and tried again.

Brad, for his part, couldn't move. I'm not going anywhere, he told Scaling. It felt as if every muscle had gone limp. He had nothing left after spending days balancing the boat, flipping it, pulling it and watching his crewmates die. The ship made another turn, closer. The men aboard threw the lines again. Scaling jumped into the water and started swimming.

Debbie's just like, I'm going for it. See ya bruh. Found her energy now. Seeing his crewmate in the water was all the motivation Brad needed. Fuck it, he told himself. Here I go. He rolled overboard and managed to grab a line, letting the crew reel his weakened body in and hoist him up on the deck along with Debbie.

They made it. They made it. Wow. Isn't that fucking crazy? They quickly realised that their saviours were Russian. And this is at the height of the Cold War. The US Coast Guard never came to save them, but ice traders on a Soviet vessel did. And they were like, I don't care where they're from. They just saved my life. I don't give a shit.

Yeah. So I said, hey, thank you, comrades. Now they're both- They're both high up in the KGB. So in the five days that the crew had been stuck in the dinghy, they had drifted 140 miles or 225 Ks from where the yacht had sunk. Wow. And they'd just gone east away from land, had they? Yeah.

Oh dear. So if the other ships had turned up to help them, there was nothing there. Hey, they're not here. I guess they saved themselves. Well, apparently there was- and I'll get to it later, there's still a bit of confusion as to why the sort of rescue call was, why it was called off, but apparently there was a call made to Port Lauderdale, Fort Lauderdale, where they were heading to, that they had arrived and so everyone's like, oh, OK, they arrived. But they didn't. So that's they're like, yeah, trash man's arrived.

But it hasn't. That's a fuck up. So that's a hope someone could fight for that. So the Russian crew gave Brad and Debbie dry clothes, medical attention and food and water. They contacted the US Coast Guard, who arrived that night to take Brad and Debbie to hospital. The temperature that night dropped down into the 30s in Fahrenheit, so around zero degrees. So it would have been impossible for Brad and Debbie to survive the night in the dinghy.

Okay, so just by the skin of their teeth. Oh wow. They shouldn't be alive. And it seems like when they, at the point that they were found, the other three had all died the day before. It was close. So they could have almost been all saved. Maybe. Who knows?

So Brad and Debbie made full recoveries, thankfully. Brad soon returned home to Massachusetts and once again felt the need to keep busy. He immediately started taking odd jobs in hopes of earning enough cash to begin travelling to sailboat races again. Really? Yeah. Gosh, I'd be avoiding the ocean forever. I know.

But also he must feel like he could deal with anything now. All right. Yeah, yeah. I suppose so. Yeah. Debbie continued to sail as well. She wrote an account of the incident called Albatross, the true story of a woman's survival at sea in 1994.

So it's like 12 years later, which became a, um, it was made into a TV film. Again, she leaves Brad off a woman's survival. Brad's like, I'm right here. Are you kidding me? I survived as well. You'd be dead without me. It was made into a TV film called Two Came Back. Um, I tried to find Albatross. It was pretty, yeah. It was really hard to, I couldn't find a copy of it at all. Or like I could find a hardback for $170 or

something. Isn't that wild the difference on, yeah, in researching previous topics, I find it a softback, $3.50, or I don't know, like 20 bucks. hardback, $2 million. I guess that yeah, there's fewer of them. Couldn't find this anywhere, like definitely no ebook version or like, yeah, couldn't find it at all. So I would have liked to have read it because the article that Kevin wrote is fantastic, but it's largely from an interview with Brad. So it's sort of Brad's perspective.

But then I watched, I Shouldn't Be Alive, and it seems like most of it lines up Debbie sort of saying the same thing. Do they speak about each other at all? Yeah, they do. Like- Is it like long held animosity because of the incident? I'll get to that. Oh, because of, yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. Looking forward to seeing, but I half thinking he'd be like, you know, we were both

in a real tough spot. Yeah, we were dying. Yeah. Yeah. I was upset more than maybe I should have been, but you know, like, how do you know? You can't, I think you got to forgive yourself for it. Both of their reactions are very reasonable, given the circumstances they were in. Unreasonable circumstances.

Watch three people die and they're five days since they've eaten anything. And what are the chances of a ship being in that exact spot and being able to sit like ridiculous? So they got really lucky. Debbie became a motivational speaker. She was on Larry King Live. Pretty fun. Whoa. And she published another book called No Victims Only Survivors in 2006 about lessons for surviving.

So she'd sort of go around speaking about what happened to her and how to, you know, probably around the mindset of survival. A few months after the horrific incident, Brad flew to Fort Lauderdale for the Southern Ocean Racing Conference season. He was hoping to see Debbie, I believe for the first time since their rescue. Um, I was going to leave this out, but he was going to see her, to tell her he loved her. Oh.

It's what he said in that article, which I think is a bit of like, oh, you're mixing up the feelings of having gone through something so horrific and awful together. I don't, I'm not sure that you love her, but I don't know. But anyway, so he goes there. They haven't seen each other since. Pacing the docks, he eventually spotted her and he was relieved to see her fit and well. This is from Kevin again. He moved towards her to speak, but the mere sight of Brad made Debbie recoil, reminding her of the horrors that she'd suffered at sea while in the Zodiac I'm sorry, but I can't be around you. He recalls

They're saying I don't want you to have anything to do with me. Please leave me alone. Wow, she couldn't handle seeing that Very different responses. So he was hurt by that but he retreated And then he did what he's always done He walked the docks banging on boats until he found somewhere, someone that would hire him and he went back out to work. His resume is pretty good now. I would have thought. Or they're like, this guy is unlucky.

Oh yeah. The curse. Yeah. Very suspicious. Do you want to hide the jinx? Yeah. Well, they both continued to sail and they ran in similar circles. So they did see each other a bit, but it was pretty painful for both of them.

Gosh, it would be for, like you said, two different reactions, two different reasons to not want to see the other. Yeah, ideally it's both the same, one way or the other. Yeah. But it was pretty tough. I can't see you because I love you. I can't see you because you detest me. You make me feel scared.

You make me feel awful. Debbie married twice. She had two children. In 2009, tragically, her son drowned in a sailing accident. And three years later in August of 2012, at the age of 54, Debbie passed away from an undisclosed cause in Mexico where she'd just moved. Brad was obviously very sad to hear of Debbie's passing. And so he's now the last one left. He's the lone survivor. Several years later, Debbie's daughter gave Brad a frame.

Inside was a neatly coiled metal wire. The same one Brad had rigged up to suspend their shivering bodies under the zodiac and flip the boat to keep it clean. It was what had kept them both alive. Unbeknownst to him, Debbie had retrieved it after the dinghy was found still floating in the ocean. She framed it and hung it on a wall, keeping it close all those years." Wow.

And that daughter must be like, if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't exist. So I hope that gave him a little bit of closure. Yeah. But this is sort of the end of Kevin's really great article. You can read the whole thing. It's links in the show notes, but this is how he sums it up. Brad remains hell-bent on learning why the Coast Guard never showed up in the aftermath of that fateful storm. He has documents and photos from the official case file after the sinking of the trash man, but they give few if any clues.

He spent decades trying to figure out what happened and now that he's the only crew member alive, he's even more determined to find the truth. He wants to know how rescuers forgot about him and his crewmates and why. Haunted by his memories, he's driven up and down the East Coast, stopping at bases and looking for anyone to speak to him about the incident. He is still adrift, nearly 40 years later, still searching for answers. It's pretty wild. Wow.

He's married, has kids, like he's, you know, apart from, you know, chasing down these answers, I think he's still lived a pretty full life. Yeah. But obviously some of it's stayed with him forever. Of course. How could it not? And yeah, just the frustration of like, what happened that you forgot about us? Man, I hope we have that run continues of us putting out an episode and then some

news or some closure coming. Oh yeah. I mean, it's obviously just a bias that we, we notice these things. Of course, but it's fun. But listeners point it out sometimes like, oh, it's happened again. Hopefully, yeah, some, he finds proper closure. Yeah. But that's the story of the sinking of the trash man. And I don't know whether I call the episode the sinking of the trash man or if I make it something a bit more mysterious so it doesn't give away that that ship's going down.

It goes down pretty quickly. Yeah, and from there on, the story is really what happens afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what an incredible story it is. Isn't that wild? There was a, I think in 2019, a movie, TV movie starring Josh Dumas. Do you remember him? Yeah.

Um, I can't remember what it was called. Oh, no, Josh Dumas from Las Vegas? Yes. Yeah, yeah, I remember him. He was the, he's the captain. So they made it into like a TV movie, um, loosely, but quite clearly based on this. I made everyone hot. They were all hot.

But Josh Dumas is not 24. So okay, you're fooling nobody. But yeah, it's been, uh, it's been used a little bit and yeah, Debbie's written a couple of books, but they use it heaps and heaps and heaps on it actually. So um, yeah, I really appreciate that article written by Kevin that was published in Boston magazine because it was a very helpful resource for telling this wild story. Cheers, Kevin, if you're listening. Thank you, Kevin.

Cheers to you, Kevin. Cheers to the two people that suggested this topic. Yeah. I am amazed that after eight and a half years that every week there's often a story that I'm like, that's one of the most amazing stories I've ever heard. I've never heard of it. How have I never heard of that? Do you remember, we used to be like a bit of a, like a semi-regularly, the ones that

would come up would be murderers. And we don't have that many murderers anymore, but we're having a lot of ocean disasters lately. Yeah. Or rescues and whatnot. Yep. Am I right in thinking that? Yeah, yeah. It feels like they've become more of a thing. And I hate it.

I don't trust the ocean. How have we done? We've done the submarine one. Yep. Titanic. That was a while ago. We had Chris Lemons a little while ago too, like last year. Oh yeah.

That was a bonus episode. The Costa Concordia. Yep. Oh yeah. Gotta say, Jess's bonus episode on the Chris Lemons diving incident is well worth subscribing to the Patreon for. If you like this episode, it's very similar, well told. Thank you, Dave.

And I wasn't on it as well, so if I'm more annoying- So it's good. That's the problem. Am I the problem for you? Then that's a great one to listen to. Then you'll love it, yeah. Matt was off having a well-earned holiday. But with that-

Okay. You think you can just take off, do ya? By the way, I need six weeks off in July. I was fine. Thank you. But without you, Matt, do you? By the way, I need six weeks off in July. I was fine. But without you, Matt, we wouldn't have had bread, bread, so. Oh, my God. That's the hardest I've ever seen you laugh. I thought I was.

Don't laugh at that. Yeah, that was good. You know, when you don't realize, like, I've seen you laugh a lot. Yeah. I thought I, yeah, yeah. I laugh pretty consistently, I think. Yeah. Ever since you told me I don't laugh enough. Yeah.

Now you laugh. You've taken on notes. Yeah. I've, I've, I opened myself up to the laugh. Yes. But Dave doesn't laugh. No, Dave laughs, but- I laugh a lot.

Actually, can I- Just take that to that level, because if I didn't do that every week, I would shorten my life. You're a good, you're a good laugher. And I was listening back to the, the episode from a couple of weeks ago of the, the screams theft of the scream. Oh, the live one. The live one.

And it's so cute because in parts you could just hear little Dave go. Right into the mic. Oh yeah, that is a good Dave. So cute. I was thinking of his being like, can't do it but it's sort of like a ha ha. Ha ha. But a bigger. Yes, like that. Like that. And it's sort of like a ha ha. Ha ha! Yes, like that.

Like that. That's a big, that's real Davey. It's really cute. It's adorable, go listen to it. Before we went on the, Adrian, the techie recorder that did say, I don't want to tell you how to do your job, but like the closer you get the mic, the easier it is for me. So I really took that to heart.

So even when I was laughing, I was just like eating the microphone. He did not say that to me. And then at the end he said to me, to be honest, I said, how do I, how to go? And he goes, to be honest, you're a little too hot at the start. So. Okay. Can't get it right. Okay.

Can't win. What a beautiful and tragic and everything tale that was, Bop. Yeah. When the, the Patreons voted for that one. Oh yeah. Did you have a theme or something? Or were you just like the stories that grabbed your attention? Yeah, just I was looking through Jack the Hat McVitie.

There's a link in the show notes if you want to suggest a topic. Everybody can. You don't have to, you know, be a subscriber or anything. So, yeah, that's where we get most of our topics from. So I was having a little bit of a look through and there was a few that kind of grabbed me, but they were all very different. A couple of the others were more sort of like a biography of an interesting person. But they voted for this and I think they voted really well because I was reading that main article that I referenced today, just like it was gripping. You're kind of like, oh no, the yachts gone down, they're stuck with nothing. Oh my God.

One of them's dead. Two of them, three of them dead. Oh my God. Just sharks right there. Isn't that terrifying? It's a, yeah, just amazing harrowing. Yeah. Yep.

What a story. And again, yeah, like they've said,, while there's still these stories you're like, how have I not heard of that? How's that not a household story? Well, it probably is for them. You're right, Brad, we get it. We know what you did. Amazing. All right. Well, that brings us up to the section and Jess said you don't have to be a supporter to suggest topics, but you can be a supporter if you just want to support. There's all sorts of levels from the lowest level where you can vote on topics, you get into the Facebook group, which is the nicest

corner of the internet. And you can still, if you're in there, you get it, you get all the other things like hearing about live shows first, discounted tickets, all that sort of stuff. And then there's a bunch of different levels, including a shout out level. There's the level where you can get three bonus episodes a month, soon to be four bonus episodes a month. And another level, which is a Sydney Schoenberg level, where you get all those things. Plus you get to give us a fact or quote or a question in a section of the show. We like to call a fact, quote or question as a little jingle, go something like this.

Fact, quote or question. Ding! Huh like this. Fat Quote a Question. Ding. Huh, she always remembers the ding. Huh, she always remembers the sing. And the way this section works, if you are on the Sydney Schoenberg level, you get to give us a Fat Quote a Question, Bragg or a suggestion. You also get to give yourself a title. First up this week, we've got one from Henry T. Wilhoit and Henry has got the title of

Vice President of Day Drinking. Oh, you're hanging out with that captain. Yeah, I was going to say day drink is my, that's my favourite kind of drinking, but mainly because you just get to bed early. Yeah, I love that. And then you sleep through the hangover. You get a full sleep. Yeah, love a full sleep. But also-

As I age, I love a full sleep. I live for a full sleep. What I also love is drinking responsibly. That's right, yes. All day and all night. Dr What I also love is drinking responsibly. That's right. Yes. All day and all night. Drinking responsibly all day and all night. Yeah.

No matter when you are, wherever you are, when you are. You're being responsible when you're drinking. Yeah. Exactly. If you want to. That's all. Agree. Okay.

We're on the same bloody page. There's a problem with people being responsible all day long and then being responsible all night long. That's not my problem. I'm just worried about some of the people listening are like, they're going to twist your words. We'll get a couple of prudes, alright. Alright, go away prude.

Yeah, well you know, 50% of our audience is a prude, 50% are pervs. Which one are you? Let us know on our social media. Oh, we haven't really asked this for a while, but social media, follow us. We've got way less followers than listeners. Yeah. Do go on pod. Never quite balanced out.

It's because we're old and we're not like hot young things on, on Instagram. We don't know what we're doing. We got to get our tits out more. We got to get our tits out. I've been saying that to you boys for years. Well, I'm finally up for it. Okay, great. So if you follow us, let's, let's set a goal. And if we hit that many followers, you get your t for it. Okay, great. So if you follow us. Mine are really starting to come in. Let's set a goal and if we hit that many followers,

you get your tits out. Okay. I know, I didn't mean all the way out. I'll hide the nips, more like this. Tasteful. Tasteful? Tasteful nudes. Yes, but accurate.

But we've got to. Accurate nudes. Yeah, accurate nudes. We've got to hit like 20,000 plus on Instagram. Yeah, before you get the tits out. And I'll get Baps out. We're gonna forget and then somebody's gonna say, get your tits out. And we'll be, I'll get BAPS out. We're going to forget. And then somebody's going to say, go tits out. And we'll be like, how dare you.

You're discussing. Block. Get the hashtag going BAPS out at 20,000. Yeah. If you just clip out this bit of audio, we'll remember. So we've got two facts, quotes and or questions this week. The first one from Henry, president of day, or sorry, vice president of daydream has a suggestion.

Henry's suggestion is, you guys have mentioned a few times that one of the working titles for your pod was, it starts with a question. Yes. Sorry, it should be, get on with it. Get on with it, you dickhead, you toilet. Fucking toilet. That was, yeah, I don't think it ever got to working title stage. It was just on a list of ideas that Dave had.

But anyways. It's the most cringy that stayed with us. That's why. Henry says, which I think we can all agree sucks. Okay, yeah, good to know Henry's on board. Yes, we agree. Henry, thank you so much. In brackets, sorry.

No, don't apologize. For the Americans listening, you know, the equivalent of rubbish is trash. The equivalent of brackets is parentheses. Of course. It's a beautiful language over there. I love it. I wish we took on more of their words. And of course, we, nearly every third word I say

would have an American origin. Anyway, I was thinking you guys should do a bonus ep in an alternate reality version of your pod where that was the title you went with. I think you could get some good mileage, brackets, kilometerage. That's good stuff. He's done the reverse for us there.

Nice. Of extra dog shit, I have extra dog shit riffs out of the pod, out of the concept. What threw me there is, he thinks we're saying dog shit rifts with a T on there. Oh. Gotcha. Which is interesting. We're saying riffs rifts with a T on there. Oh, gotcha. Which is interesting.

We're saying rifts double F. Isn't that interesting? Mm. He thinks they're little tiffs we're having, little fights. No, we're not having- Dogshit rifts. Oh, falling out over the dogshit. I guess so. We keep our dogshit rifts off pod.

Yeah. That's right. We feud in our own time. Our rifts are where we all come together. That's right. Until Jess is bored with it and we move on. That's right. Together.

I'm a delight. You're so lucky to work with me. And that's the thing in an alternate universe, you didn't. That's right. In that alternate universe, me and Dave dogshit riff. Yeah. No one ever tells us stop. Shut up.

We're still going in that alternate universe. They only say it with their eyes, which is honestly, it's a service you're providing to our listeners. Yes, yes. Honestly. I think you guys should be- I'm really quite polite to so many other people. And with you guys, I don't know, it just comes out- Shut up.

You get to be yourself. Yeah, it's a comfort thing, right? Show your awful, awful self. Yeah, my awful, awful self. Shut up, you dogs! Get it up, you dog. He finishes by saying, please forgive any typos- Yeah, my awful, awful self. Shut up, you dogs. Get it up, you're done. He finishes by saying, please forgive any typo-

Please forgive. Please forgive any typo-slash-grammar errors in this question. For clarification, please see my listener title. Oh, day drinking. Day drinking. Ah, rift-slash-rift. So maybe that was just a typo. Maybe that's an American thing, like in America they call them guitar rifts. Take it away, show us your guitar rifts. Take it away.

Show us your best rift. No, I did not think so. Okay. You were being funny and I misunderstood. First time for everything. Me being funny and you understand. You are very funny. And I say that all the time and you say bit patronizing, but I'm just like, wow,

that was funny. How do you get so funny? No, I can confirm it is riffs. And that's what we're talking about. Riffs. So the question is what? Do a bonus episode. Do a bonus episode. It starts with a question.

Love it. And so you- We could do- we should, if we were going to do one, because that would just be the same show. We do still start with a question. The- it'd be funnier to do the one that was- was it short tales or whatever? Short report. Short report. And we do it with a timer. Oh, I like that.

Which apparently, listening back to the first bonus episode, I had a timer going because I wanted to keep it for 30 minutes or under. We should do it. We should bring that back on time. I agree. Today we recorded a Phrasing the Bar on the Whale, which is out by the time you hear this, and it went for 90 minutes discussing a what? 140 minutes? No, it's nearly a two hour film, isn't it? Yeah, actually, no, it's about a 115 minute movie. So we almost got there. All right.

Final one of the fact quotes and questions this week comes from Michaela McCray, aka Brigadier General in the feline servitude division. And Michaela, can you, does that make sense? No. Servitude. I guess Brigadier General, you know what that means. It's right up top. Yeah. That's a high ranking division.

Of the what, sorry? Feline servitude division. Yeah. So, so a cat. She's an underling of a cat. Yeah. And anybody who has a cat knows they, they run the house. You're the underling.

Who runs the house? Cats. Meow. Michaela writes. Dave, that was funny. Thank you. Point're the underling. Who runs the house? Cats. Meow. Michaela writes. Dave, that was funny. Point it out every time. Maybe in the next few weeks you could say it again.

So Michaela writes, I've just listened to Michelle's report on guide dogs and the talk about other dog jobs and other animals with jobs. Cats, as we know, are difficult to train, but sometimes they choose to do a job without training. Two of my friends- Dave's, look, he's browsing online. If you're wondering why he's giggling. He's just got a funny text. Just looked up cat piss. Brad piss. I'm laughing at the idea of a cat just choosing- I can't wait to hear what job a cat has chosen.

Two of my friends have cats that alert them when something is wrong. One alerts to seizures, seizures. Wow. And the other to low blood sugar. Neither were trained for this, but they do have very strong bonds with their people. And despite the reputation of being dumb as rocks, these amazing cats are both ginger. A ginger cat's meant to be. Oh, I are both ginger. Are ginger cats meant to be- Oh, I didn't know. I hadn't heard that.

That they're dumb? Yeah. Is that cats or ginger cats? Do you think? I think maybe ginger cats, because I wouldn't have thought cats were unintelligent. I think cats are very smart. Hmm. Ginger, yeah. Gingers always have weird stereotypes about them that are unfair. And they're definitely not stupid, are they? Or quick to anger. Or defensive in any way. OK, that's actually a better description of me.

Jess, stop doing your hair. It's quick to anger. Defensive. Defensive. Fuck off. Fuck off, I'm not. Fuck off, I'm not defensive. You are. So I may be so, so if I may be so bold, can I ask what, can I ask that we raise a glass of whatever the Triptych Club is having today to Blue and Willow?

I could tell you what we're going to be having and it's going to be pretty good. Oh, I'm looking forward to it to Blue and Willow. I imagine I'll have a salty rim. Oh mugs. They all would have had a salty rim after. What? Hang on. So what do you mean? Oi. Oh. What? Hang on. So what are you? What do you mean?

Oh yeah, all right. So we've got to remember, Dave, can you remember where we're going to salute Blue and Willow when those drinks come out? Blue and Willow. I love, I'm fascinated by, yeah, I mean, you see dogs do it a lot, but it's interesting those cats can do it. Alerting you to a medical episode. How do they do it?

How do they know? Dogs are like, oh, your blood pressure's low. What? But my dog's just like, oh shit inside. And I'm like, can you not? And he's like, well, have you figured out what that means? He's trying to tell me something. He's trying to tell you something. Oh, it might not be blood sugar. Maybe you're.

Yeah. He's telling me I need to poop. But maybe there's something else like you've never had a seizure in that apartment to my knowledge. No. Yeah. Maybe his poo is somehow doing something. Oh!

Yeah, the poo might mean you're not having a seizure. I'll keep shitting until you have a seizure. I'll let you know. All clear. It's the all clear alarm. Everything is fine. Oh, what a good boy. Thanks so much to Michaela and Henry.

And like I say, Sydney Schomburg level, because we've, they've dried up a little bit lately. There's plenty of people on that level, but if obviously no pressure. But I want this to start feeling like you've got to have homework. But if you've got any facts, quotes or questions or really whatever you like, and you're either on the Schomburg level

or you want to sign up to it, get those in. If you need the link, feel free to DM me on Patreon. Or if you want to know anything, maybe you think, oh, I should have had my share up by now. Anything like that. My DMs on Patreon are always open. That's the best place to contact us because, or the email, I guess, but the Patreon,

I normally respond within a week or something. That's pretty good. Which as I said, I'm like, this is a pretty low level brag here. Within a week. Within a week, yeah. Sometimes really quickly though. Sometimes I'm on there at the time. We just don't know. Comedy Festival time, I'm a bit slower.

So that brings us to the next part, Jess, where we shout out a few of our other great supporters. And normally you have a game based on the topic at hand. Yeah, but it was quite a grim topic. Let's just name their boat. Oh yeah, great. And the boat does not sink. Their boats don't sink.

Oh, is the boat named after how they made their fortune? Yes. Judge me. Okay. Do you want to do it like we did last week where one of us comes up with all of them, one of us reads all the names out and the other one gives us, how about this, right? One of us reads out the name, the other one says how they made their fortune, the third one names the boat.

Okay. Based on that job. Yep. Does that make sense? Do you want me to read out the names this week? Yeah, you want to read out the names? I came up with a few things last week. Yeah, okay.

Jess, you want to do the job or the boat? Yes, job. Okay. And the job, the boat? Yes, job. Okay. And the job, the boat's got to be semi-relevant to the job, I guess. We'll see. All right. All right, let's kick it off. I would like to thank, first of all, thank you for supporting us on Patreon.

First of all, location unknown. Can only imagine that deep within the fortress of the Mollers, they're known by one single word and that word is Dandau. Dandow. Dandow. Financial advisor. Oh, financial advisor. The boat is called? Cocaine fuckhead. See what I mean? I was telling you this last week, he just like, he just he blanks out.

His mind goes blank and he just he comes out. I'm not joking. The stuff he comes up with is just so good. So you sort of become like a horse name generator in your own mind. Yeah we don't need the horse name generator anymore. Alright let's keep going I'll show you he's really good. Dandow's email address if we weren't doxing but they might not want their name out there for a reason but their initials CZ. Just in case. Just in case.

They forgot that they put Dandow down. D-A-N-D-A-U. Thank you so much, Dan-Dao. Thank you. I would like to thank- now, I've actually seen this one when we were doing the shout-outs last week, this location, and I'm kind of obsessed with it. I really want to visit now because one of my favourite town names I've come across in a long time, from Utah, specifically Spanish Fork.

That's so good. How awesome is that? Love it. Courtney Lycanian. Shh. No, sorry, let? I love it. Courtney Lykanian. Shh. No, no. Sorry, let me say it again. Courtney Lyk-I-N-N. Courtney Le-Ki-Ki-N-N.

I reckon you've absolutely nailed that. One of those is spot on. I think- One of those is close. If you've heard all this pronouncements and additions, then AJ has failed us. I wanted him to edit out, listen up, look up the word and then find the right one. No, obviously not. It's Courtney. AJ has failed us.

Lehi Kainan, if I'm sounding it out, but you're from Spanish Fork. Officially my favourite place in all of Utah. That's really good. I'll go on the- And Courtney made their money as a chef. Chef, uh. Restauranteur. Small noodle.

The small noodle. That's good. That is, be honest, would you rather get on the trash man or the small noodle? I'd be getting on the small noodle. I'd be getting on the small noodle. That's good stuff. I want to see how the chefs make little tortillas.

Oh, I got it. I got it. You nailed it. It's very good. Okay, Dave, let's keep it going. He's on fire. He's on fire. Sorry, I'm back on the Spanish fork.

While he's hot. Wiki page. Sorry, I'm obsessed with it. Okay, you're going to have to bookmark it. Read that in your own time. Can't wait to look up Spanish fork. Where it work, technically. Isn't that ridiculous?

It is so ridiculous, as I said. Matt's just coming up with names of boats and this is our joke. I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going Read that in your own time. Can't wait to look up Spanish for- Where at work, technically. Isn't that ridiculous? It is so ridiculous, as I said. Matt's just coming up with names of boats and this is our job. Come on. Another person located within, deep within the fortress of the moles, we can only assume. And they're also one name and that is just Nick.

N-I-C. Possibly surname starting with T if we wanted to give you another clue of who you are in case you don't know. NIC Nick is the name you've given us. News reporter. And this just in. That's good too. HMIS. This just in.

Yeah, that's good. That is really good. That's really good. Keep it going, keep it going. And then like on the side of the boat there's like a photo of Sandra Sally or something. No, no, no. That is really good. That's really good. Keep it going. Keep it going. On the side of the boat, there's like a photo of Sandra Sally or something. No, no, no, don't add to it. You'll bring him out of it. Sorry, sorry, sorry. From Pakenham here in Victoria, thank you to Ashley Wainwright.

Ashley Wainwright is a police officer. You're nicked. Yes. That's great. Good. You're nicked. I'd like to thank, from Edinburgh in Scotland, it's one name again, Maeve. A bagpipest, but like best in the world. Yeah, like top one.

The Toot Toot Toot. Could it be like a Toot Toot Honk? Oh yeah, the Toot Toot Honk. Hello, Coast Guard. This is Dave Wonky, captain of the Toot Toot Honk. To start, we're having a bit of trouble out here. Toot Toot honk. Hello, Coast Guard. This is Dave Wonky, captain of the Toot Toot Honk. To start, we're having a bit of trouble out here. Toot toot honk. Mayday, mayday. The Toot Toot Honk is going down.

So is that part of the Mayday? But what's your boat called? Toot Toot Honk. Although we heard the Mayday. We heard the Mayday. I'd like to thank from Blakeview in the Australian capital territory. It's Bethany Stolmentis. Yeah, you see, too. Clown.

Professional clown. The big top. Oh, that's great, too. That is good. Like one of Cirque du Soleil's best clowns. Of course, they got a fucking boat. Kidding me? I've paid tickets to see them. Expensive. Those guys are killing it. I've paid tickets to see him. Expensive. Those guys are killing it.

I've paid tickets to see him. I've paid tickets to see him. Oh my god, have you seen their new act? They just roll around on the floor in a bunch of cash. Beautiful. It's just really impressive. From Reading in, I believe, Massachusetts, Jenny Petty. They might say reading. Jenny Petty is a romance novelist. Rock firm appendage.

Rock firm. He withdrew his rock firm appendage. It's not rock hard, it's rock firm. Rock firm! Rock firm, babe! I'm here, baby, I am rock firm! I'm rock firm and ready to go! Firm does feel like a step down from hard. It's the same!

Rock firm! It's pretty... poke that, that's pretty firm. I can't! It's the same as saying boiling warm. Rock firm. I'm rock firm right now. Oh my god, you look ravishing. I am rock firm.

Welcome aboard the SS rock firm appended. Couple more. All right. Okay, here we go from Waterloo, New South Wales. Thank you two. And just the initials here. LQ. LQ.

LQ IT. Hello, this is LQ from IT. The On and Off. Oh, God, he doesn't miss. It's written all as one word. Yeah. On and off. The On and Off.

Oh, that's good. People are like, what is that, Russian? No, I'm an IT. That's fucking good. That's funny. That's really good. That's good. What is that Russian? No, I'm an IT. That's fucking good. That's funny. That's really good. That's good stuff. And finally, I would like to thank from Card Ross in the Greatest of Britons. Hard Ross or Firm Ross?

It's Card Ross. I'm sorry. You know, but you know where I was going. It's pretty funny. Very good, very good, very, very good. And thank you to, we'll dedicate that fantastic joke to Jared, Jared Corden. Jared Corden, of course, famously a quarterback in the gridiron. Oh, okay. Football, American football. The hut hut honk.

Yes. You know what they say? Hut hut hut. And then they toss it? Yeah. Well, they used to in movies. I don't know if they actually said it. Seven, six, 11, 41.

Hut hut hut. Yep. they say? And then they throw it. Yeah. Well, they used to in movies. I don't know if they actually say it. Seven, six, eleven, forty one. Yep. Honk. Honk is unrelated, but it is fun. That's fun. And thank you again to Jared, LQ, Jenny, Bethany Maeve, Ashley, Nick, Courtney and Dandow.

We appreciate you so very much. Because, yeah, it wouldn't have made sense, but I reckon a good name for a boat would be the wide receiver, which is like who they throw it to. Oh, I like that. Yeah. But it would be a weird name for a quarterback. Yeah. Unless he was like, hey, they're the ones who really made me all this money. Yeah. I dedicate this boat. Dedicate this to all my wide receivers.

Yeah. You know who you are. Yeah. Not by name. Yeah. I can't remember who you are. Yeah. I think it was number 22. Yeah. Hot, hot, hot. Hot, hot, hot. Thank you so much to Jared, LQ, Jenny, Bethany, Maeve,

Ashley, Nick, Courtney and Dandale. I love the name Maeve. Is it Maeve or Mauve? It is Maeve, isn't it? Maeve. Mauve's the colour. I had, Soran and I at our second week of, or second half of the festival,

our front of house person had an Irish name and it reads like Aisling. Do you know how that one's pronounced? Aisling. Yeah, Aisling. So good. It was fun watching her and Soren say, he's like, Aisling? She says no, Aisling. Soren? No, Soren.

And you're like, I'm Matt. I'm Matt. Hello. The last thing we need to do is welcome a few people, quite a few actually this week, into the Triptych Club. We've got nine names, Dave. Are you ready for this? Oh my gosh. This is the biggest intake in a while, I reckon.

What do we do three years ago to get everyone to sign up? Yeah, I wonder. Probably something awesome. 2021. Probably something real fricking cool. Yeah, we said if we get more patrons this year, we'll all jump off a bridge. And we did. Yeah.

I mean, live to tell the tale. It was fricking sick. My back is still sore. So, nine inductees. Jess, you've made a drink that we're all gonna have a sip of and toast to Dave, who was it? Blue and- Blue and Willow.

Blue and Willow. Blue and Willow, I definitely remembered. Everybody gather around, everybody grab a shot glass as we enjoy a nice shot of Brad's piss. Brad's piss. It's not actual piss. It's just like, it's limoncello. And something else.

Have you given it a salty rim? It's got a salty rim. Yeah. But we're calling it Brad's piss. Brad's piss. I think that's fantastic. And in honor of Brad and Debbie and their fallen crewmates, I will be serving no food. Okay.

I think that's beautiful. Excellent. So we're just going to get- Cheers to Blue and Willow. We're just going to get really- Blue and Willow to Brad's piss. Really fucked up. I think that's beautiful. So we're just going to get really to Brad's piss. Really fuck out. Here's Brad's piss. AJ, if you can put a chinking sound in there, that'd be great. Have we explained what we're doing here? Yeah, it's fine. We're doing the Triptych Club. So these people have been on the shine up level, the sign up level or above for three years straight. And that's how they get into the Triptych Club. It's the theatre of the mind. The sign up level, the sign up level or above for three years straight. And that's how they get into the triptych club.

It's there or the line. The sign up level or above. The shout out level or above. You're thinking of shine back, there's the shine back level as well. I was because I started saying shine, but I was saying shout and anyway. Whatever. Does it matter? So we induct these people in, it's basically a hall of fame that we induct these people

in and it's also a clubhouse and every week Jess has food and drinks, so that's what Brad's piss is. Yep. And I always book a band. Mm. And you're never going to get it. What? You know, you're never going to get it. You are going to get it.

You won't understand, no matter how hard you try. And performing their hit, Orinoco Flow, Sail Away, You better believe it. Enya is here. Oh my God. Dun, dun, dun, dun. Fall out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, fell out, She's not singing her language, is she? For that song? Is that like Gaelic or something? I don't think so. Or is she singing in English? Is that for Salaway? Yeah.

From Bissau to Palau in the shade of Avalon. It's English. As long as it's English. From BG to Tiree and the Isles of Abernay. I can't really remember the tune that well, but yeah. Beautiful piece of music. What a wild hit song as well. Excited to see that. Excited to see that live.

That's actually going to rule. She's going to. That would actually be so fun. I think she'll open and close a set with it somehow. Would you believe it? That's not even the most played song on Spotify. What is? Really?

Would you ought to guess another one? Uh, I reckon I'd know it when I hear it. But like a hundred million more. Only Time is the number song. Oh no, I don't know that one. There you go. Three hundred million for Only Time. Wow. What was their band called before that? What, I don't know that one. There you go, 300 million for only time. Wow.

And what was their band called before that? What? I don't know. Some big-ish band. Is it Enya and the Enyas? Ah, yes. Ah, yes. Enya and the Enyas.

Only time. We'll have to play that before we finish. But yeah. Clanad? Clanad, that's right. Okay. I googled it. Okay, here we go.

So I'm going to read out these names. Yeah. Spirit of the mind. So if you're here, you're going to's right. Okay. I Googled it. Okay, here we go. So I'm gonna read out these names. Yeah. Spirit of the mind. So if you hear your name, I'm gonna lift the velvet rope on your way in. Dave's up on the stage,

hobbin' up obviously just behind the bar. Yep. Which is around the side of the stage within reaching distance. So Jess can give Dave a reach around. As in to tap him on the back to, reach around his back to tap him to say what a good job he's done.

Well that could be, so I think that's fine. And childish this show? What are you talking about? I've got to reply to that review. I wish you could. No, because late at night you would and it would be regrettable. Hey, give us five star reviews, why don't you? Yeah.

Combat that. I dare you. I mean, if you like it, if you don't like it, that's okay. You just don't have to listen. It would be wild if you got through this far if you haven't made a joke, but I appreciate it for trying. A lot of hate listeners. I think if you give it three, four listens, three episodes, you know, 10 hours of your

life. It's just like starting a new TV show. I always say that. You got to give it three episodes. You got to give us three episodes, 10 hours of your life. It's just like starting a new TV show. I always say that you got to give it three episodes. You got to give us three episodes. Yeah. One each. Let us in. Anyway, so we've got nine names to read out.

These people, once you're in, you're not allowed to leave, but no one's ever wanted to anyway. No one's ever requested it. Yep. So Dave, you ready to go? Ready to rock. Dave does a bit of weak wordplay based on either the- I'm fucking believable.

City they're from or their name. Just because you're amazing at naming boats. Yeah, come on. I'm just letting them know. Give you a chance. I assume that's what you're trying to do. We all have our strengths. Yeah.

And Dave's is weak wordplay. Well, that's all I said. OK. Yeah, but it's so weak. It's strong. I didn't like the tone. OK. Let's apologize. I've only got one tone, Jess.

So if you don't like that one, I'm sorry. I can't help you. All right. Here we go from Newtown in Victoria in Australia. It's Sarah full of love. My heart was feeling empty, but now my heart is feeling Sarah. From Watson in Louisiana in the United States, it's John Denaise. It's elementary dear John Denaise from Watson. Oh, that's good.

From Myrtleford up, beautiful John Donay from Watson. Oh, that's good. From Myrtleford, oh, beautiful town, just outside of Brighton. In Victoria, Australia, it's Dylan Old. Some would say the night is young, but I'd say the night is Dylan Old. Woo! And that is a good thing. Yeah, you want it to be Dylan Old. From New Brighton in, I reckon, Minnesota in the United States, it's Nicole Wood. No, I didn't think that we were going to have any good people going tonight.

But I'm trying to get to Wood somehow. OK, no, you get it. People ask if I would, if Nicole... People say to me... Jess's look. People say to me, I bet no one's brave enough to go into the club tonight. That's also really, really cool. And I'd say, you know what? Nicole Wood! Yes!

Thank you. Yes, yes, yes. You got there with no help from that. Yes, yes, yes. And I'd say, you know what, Nicole would. Yes. Thank you. Yes, yes, yes. You got there with no help from Matt. Dreds, and I gave him thinking time. From Dresden in Tennessee in the United States, please welcome in Stanton. Stanton, I'm a Fanton. From Houston, Texas in the United States, please welcome Kevin Moyer. Looking at the guest list, a lot of people say we have too many Kevins, but I say we

need Moyer. Kevin Moyer. Yes. That feels good. more ya. Kevin more ya. Yes. That feels good. That feels good. What more do you want? Yeah, but I want Matt to kiss my feet. Well, I think a simpler man would have done some sort of we have a problem.

I thought that was- No, that's what I'm saying. That's that would have been level one. Dave was operating up in a higher sphere. You're ridiculous. From Port Allen, also in Louisiana, in the United States, two Louisianans this week. It's Jay Cormack. I've actually made a request to Anya tonight for the last chorus of the song, which she could change it to.

Sailor Jay, Sailor Jay Cormack. From Warrington in New South Wales, Australia, it's Julie Page. Turn the page, it's Julie Page's turn. Yes, turn the page. Paging Julie from Milton Keynes. Julie and Pagey. From Great Britain. We got a twofer here.

It's Chris and Sadie. Chris and Sadie, you are my- Cleaning lady. Yeah, but I want to get a bit of a rhyme with Miss Anne. Okay, sorry, I was trying to help because you seemed like you were flannering, but. Oh, what about this one? Well, the real Chris and Sadie, please stand up. Please stand up.

Please stand up. That's good stuff. It's like Slim Shady. Fuck yeah. And the great thing is, Anne has now come out. You can hear she's back by Clannadon. They're starting to play their version of the real Slim Shady. So good.

And it's haunting. It's beautiful. It is haunting. It's haunting. Will the real Chris and Sadie please stand up? Thank you so much and welcome in Chris and Sadie, Julie, Jay, Kevin, Stanton, Nicole, Dylan, John and Sarah. That brings it to the episode. That's a great bunch.

That's a good crop. A banana! A banana! We've done, this has been a big day. We did a Phrase in the Bar. We did something else. We've done three this has been a big day. We did a Phrase in the Bar, we did something else. We've done three or four episodes today and they've all been fun. All been fun, but we have lost our minds a little bit. So we have to get out of here.

Okay. But let me tell you before we go that you can follow us on social media at dogoonpod. I'm sure there'll be a video of the coming weeks of me nearly vomiting at Brad Piss. So, and there's lots, we've got dozens of videos now if you want to see little funny moments of the coming weeks of me nearly vomiting at Brad Piss. Yeah. So, and there's lots. We've got dozens of videos now if you want to see little funny moments of the show that we've put on Instagram. Yeah. If you don't like listening to us, you know, not bloody getting on with it.

Just watch little snippets of it. We'll put up 60 second snippets and we get to see our faces. And do go on pod with, yeah, please, please do follow us. That helps us as well. Particularly on TikTok. We've had a TikTok for a little while, but we're pretty, we're putting videos up there a fair bit now. So if you're on TikTok, go give us a follow.

That would be amazing. But also Instagram, you can find us on Facebook. We have a website, which is dogo on pod. So if you want to stay up to date with live shows and all our other podcasts and suggesting a topic, that's the place to do it. And our web series on the stupid old channel, it'll almost entirely be out by now, mid-May or whatever, mid to late May. It'd be a good chunk of it.

Oh yeah, there's definitely a chunk of it out. So if you just search Diggle on the Quiz Show on YouTube, you should find it. And that's been a lot of fun, getting a lot of love. Yeah. Totally separate from this show. But yeah, new topics, lots of guests, friends. 40 minutes to an hour-h each week. So yeah. Really fun. Worth a look.

Would love you to check them out, please. Hey and follow all of us individually. I'm Matt Stewart. Uh, that's Jess Beckins, that's Dave Warnocky. Now boot this baby home, Dave, please. Hey, we'll be back next week with another episode before you know it, but until then I'll say thank you so much for listening and goodbye. Bye. God, we're really succinct when we want to get out of here, aren't we? I wanna stay.

Sail away, sail or stay, may I may. Look, I'm losing it.