Two In The Think Tank - 463 - Australian Bushranger Moondyne Joe

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

Moondyne Joe is Western Australia's most famous Bushranger, but as first time guest Angus Gordon tells us, he is more famous for his jail escapes than his bush ranging!Note: Angus was raw dogging this report and let us know he got a couple of names wrong: the convict he called Simon Levey was actually named Solomon and the Governor of Swan River was Hampton not Hudson.This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 04:46 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).Support the show and get bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSupport the show on Apple podcasts and get bonus eps in the app: http://apple.co/dogoon Live show tickets: https://dogoonpod.com/live-shows/ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/suggest-a-topic/  Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Quick question for you, how good is it to be alive? Well don't ask me, ask our special guest this week, please welcome to the show Angus Gordon. Oh hello everyone, thank you. Angus, what a pleasure. How good is it to be alive? I guess it depends who you ask. Yeah, why am I asking you? Well for me, at the moment, pretty good, but imagine some people, they struggle.

Yeah, that's true. And I don't want to be too insensitive to them and they think life is meaningless, it's suffering and who am I to invalidate that experience? That's true. Charles Beek on behalf of them, it's terrible. I knew it would get that kind of answer. You are um... But for me, my life is amazing. Good, good.

It's so good. Your fear. Well that Jess probably normally answers a similar sort of way. So that works out well. Jess is fine by the way. Oh yeah, well I bring up Jess. Jess for new listeners, for everyone from the Angus Massive who are joining us for the first time today. Jess Perkins is usually the third member

of this show and she's fine and a few people have been asking online where she is. I just want to say on the record, there's nothing to worry about. Well, you were showing me a photo of her holding up today's newspaper. Yeah, that's right. That's clear signs of life.

That's right, yeah, so obviously. And we all know how much she loves print media. Yeah, she loves print media. Yeah, she's not in multiple newspapers, actually. She's propping up the industry. Yeah, I couldn't work out where she was from because the newspapers from all different locations.

Yeah, and she had six fingers, which was weird, but I think we're still trying to figure that out. Yeah, that's classic Jess. That is classic Jess. She's trying something new. Yeah, but the photo was definitely real. Yeah, I believed it. Yeah.

The photo was real and Jess is fine. Now, Dave, can you explain how this show works? Yes. What we do here Angus is we take it in terms of report on a topic. It's often suggested to us by one of the listeners. We go away, do a bit of research, bring it back in the form of a report. And we've actually invited you on to do that part of the show. Oh yeah.

Well this happened, I think it was late at night after maybe the Do Go On quiz show at Comedy Republic and I just had a rotation of people I was drinking with all day and Angus was on the show that night, the stand-up show and we had a lock-in and at some point during that night we were like, Angus is like, I got the best topic for Do Go On. And we're like, let's do it. Yeah. Jess is about to, you know, go away for a bit in inverted commas. That's how good the topic was. Yeah. We made sure she wasn't here. Well, she doesn't need to hear this. It's too good.

Yeah. It's big. Of people who don't know Angus, he's a stand up comedian from Brisbane, now Melbourne based, raw comedy winner, which only the very best do. I really don't know Angus, he's a stand-up comedian from Brisbane now, Melbourne based, raw comedy winner, which only the very best do. That's right, I'm sitting here with the two back to backs, right? You won one year Matt, then- Yeah, 2014, 2015. Wow.

Yeah. Heavyweights, Titans. Two of the most successful years. Which it's- People, when Matt won, they were like, you can't be more successful than this, but then I proved them wrong. Yeah, I mean, who remembers the other people who won? Hannah Gadsby, Josh Thomas.

Who? I can't remember those names. Who are they? Danielle Walker. I'm not ringing a bell. So there you go. So I do actually know that one. OK, well, yeah, Angus and I are the only two ones who've really broke through after the win. And it's the two that don't have your own Wikipedia page. Yeah, yeah. Okay, well yeah Angus and I are the only two ones who've really broke through after the win and um

You're the two that don't have your own wikipedia page. Yeah. Yeah, I'm the most cooked Yeah Nickson Nickson. I saw Nickson recently. Yeah, he's back in my mind because he's doing a show in Sydney very uh, Very funny guy back in the day. Yeah amazing. Amazing. Yeah incredible Uh, all right Angus. So Dave, did you explain the show. Yeah, amazing. Amazing comedian. Yeah, incredible. All right, Angus. So Dave, did you explain the show? Yes, I did explain the show. So Angus, so he pitched the topic to you, Matt, but I don't know what it is.

I don't know if you remember. I also, to be honest, can't remember, but it was late, I tell you, it was a lock-in, I think it was 2 a.m., and I'd been there since, when did our show, when was our show? Three. Yeah. So it was a long session.

You had about 38 beers to sleep. Yeah, deep yeah maybe and you I don't want to be were very drunk no he's not I'm kidding I mean I might have been a little tipsy yeah anyway no no no it's all yeah well let's start the show hey yeah we all start with a question yes perfect you know the format who is Western Australia's most famous bush ranger? Ooh. Okay. And that's a good question, isn't it? Because you don't know the answer,

so he's not that famous. Oh, I don't know, maybe we do. Do you know? Who do we know? Bush rangers, Ned Kelly. Ned Kelly, okay. He's Victorian, I'm pretty sure. Victorian. That's VFL Bush Ranging League.

Captain Moonlight, is that one? Oh. That's another one, Victorian. Victorian, yeah Captain Moonlight, is that one? That's another one, Victorian. Victorian? Also, he had been in New Zealand. He fought in the Maori Wars there. Oh really? Yeah.

Which side? For the goodies. You work out who that is. No, no. He was interesting because he couldn't stand the violence. He fought for the British in New Zealand and he couldn't... Man, that would have been... Yeah, he got injured and he didn't want to return to the front lines

So he's like kept pretending he was sick and they were like it was was he like this doesn't quite feel right It well they were murdering like women and children and stuff and he was against that for some reason so And then he was like no more violence for me. I know the perfect career Yeah, be a bushranger It is interesting that he did do that and he was gay too Captain Moonlight. But rather than like work in a bank I think he robbed the bank. He tried to be go straight and then you know it's just tough. Yeah okay. I think that's why it cost a living crisis back then. It's been gone for a long time now. He was known as Captain Moonlight for

that reason he was working at a bank and robbing them at night. He was moonlighting. The original Bruce Willis. Well this is, this Bushranger is the second most famous Bushranger with Moon in his name. Oh so there's Moon in there. What about Captain? Because I do like... No, no Captain. I mean, okay, Moon... And he'd never been a soldier. This one had never been.

Moon Dog, Moon... Moon Dog would be an amazing Bushranger. Moon River? Yeah. Oh yeah. Bad Moon Rising would be an amazing Bushrave. Moon River? Yeah. Bad Moon Rising? Is Moon the surname? No. Lawrence Mooney, the Moon Man. It is Lawrence Mooney.

I wouldn't say he's a Bush Ranger, definitely a criminal. No, just kidding. Lawrence, we love you. Is it something like, you know, Johnny Moon or something like that? It's Moondine Joe. Moondine Joe? Never heard of that. Which is funny because you reckon you've told me that, but that does not ring any bells at all.

As I said, you were so drunk. Cap and I Joe? That's right, that's right. So Moondine Joe, right, he's interesting for a Bush Ranger. He's not really famous for robbing. Oh. Well, you think Bush Ranger. Yes.

Obviously you think Bush and ranging. You think about their robberies, right? Yeah. Which he did do a little of, but what he's most famous for is- He dabbled. He dabbled. He's most famous for escaping prison. Oh.

I love a prison escape. He's a big prison escape guy. He kept escaping. So he really was, his real art was in the escape So he only stole to give him the opportunity to do what he loved. He was bad at not getting caught He was great at escaping. Once caught, don't worry I got it from him. You think he'd be good at both of those. If you're good at escaping you're good at eluding the you know The prison guards and stuff. Yeah sure, but maybe if you love escaping so much

Yeah, you got to get caught so you can escape again. Once you get a taste for it. Yeah. This is like pre-Houdini where you could like put the chains on and do it in public for money. He did some real Houdini ass shit. When are we talking? 1870s or something like that? A bit earlier, brother. Ooh.

A little bit earlier. Late 1860s was his most famous escape. Sick. Yeah. That's very close. A little bit, sorry. Not 1870s, earlier. Late 1870s earlier late I'm saying 1867 68 Was it 1820s?

The decade is two years before It was like you want to be you want to be historically accurate Yeah, you're accurate that was the sort of the the golden age for Bush ranging, wasn't it? And do we need to explain what Bush ranging is? It depends when you want to say the golden age is. So Bush ranging, it really starts in like Tasmania. I think people think it's a, Victoria, we had the late era, right? Right.

Ned Kelly, 1880s, like sort of the end of the Bush ranging era, the last big Bush ranger. Yeah. But it starts in Van Diemen's land, you know, and it why it gets going initially is because you know, they're starving to death So how can they feed themselves? How can the white settlers feed themselves? There's lots of kangaroos They give just convicts guns to kill the kangaroos, right, but they have to bring the meat back to the government store. OK, now come back. Bring the gun back. Exactly.

And they don't. You're pointing the gun on me? And they choose not to. That's really good. And because they're kind of the most powerful, in some respects, they're the most powerful men in the community because they have access to food. They're the ones bringing in the food, right?

So if you're, you know, there becomes a network of like small land holders who are like, ah, I don't want to buy from the government or buy it cheaper straight from the Bush Ranger. And you have convicts on like tickets to leave so they're working on different farms around the place that are secretly supporting these like banditi. That was the original name for Bush Rangers. An Italian name. Banditi. Banditi. Banditi. It is cool. I wish we'd kept it, we'd stop it at that. Yeah, I really like Banditi.

Yeah, the last Aussie, Banditi. I imagine, because we do have quite a few overseas listeners, probably two-thirds of our listenership or more from overseas. So roughly 66.67%. Roughly, not exactly. I'm recurring. Actually, 65. I'll pull you up on that.

You pull it, it's actually 65. But yeah, so to them, you'd explain it. They're like bandits. They're just, they're outlaws. Yeah, they're outlaws, they're robbers. Outlaws of highwaymen. A lot of them had been highwaymen in the UK. Like Matthew Brady, one of the famous... We've done an episode about him. He was a highwayman.

The gentleman bush ranger. He was the last sort of a bush ranger in Tasmania that posed like a significant threat to the government. Because you probably covered it. He took over the town of Sorrento. Yeah, it was a while ago, but I... That could have happened. Andy Matthews told the story. Do you remember this one, Dave?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember it. And he was killed along with the convict Jeffreys, Jim Jeffreys. The ghost of Jim Jeffreys, the stand-up comedian. The comedy convict. Yeah, had been the flogger of the town and then, you know, that wasn't enough sadism so he went bush-ranging. But yeah, Brady didn't like being killed next to this monster.

Oh yeah. And do you remember he was captured by Batman, who founded Melden? Oh, who was apparently a pretty bad guy as well? John Batman? Yeah, John Batman. He was a bit of a bad guy if you don't like massacres. And I don't. You're against, I've heard you're against them.

Oh yeah, I'm, I used to be quiet about it, but I'm gonna start saying it out loud. Not a fan of massacres. Yeah, the Ben Lohman, no good. That black, anyway, no good. But anyway, so Tasmania is where it gets kicked going. You know, obviously into New South Wales. But WA has its own history

of Bush ranging. And WA is an interesting settlement, right? Because it started off as a free colony for free settlers. It was basically a land grab. Like it was going to be a big money making opportunity for private investors. And they were like, yeah, it's going to be sick. What you're going to do is the government will give you allocate private investors land based on how many settlers they'll bring to the colony. But when they

got there with Captain James Sterling in 1829, he'd been there previously in 1827 exploring and he's like, the land here is so good, we're going to get rich. And then he got there and it's like only really a couple of kilometres of actually nice land. It's really bad. If you look at like one of those maps, like topographical or whatever, you can see that the green is really just hugging the boundary of Western Australia. Yeah, real no good. It's proper desert. Well, the government still treats WA in a similar way.

Yeah. Sending private companies over there to dig stuff up. Well, without the digging stuff up, there's no point for that place. Yeah. Well, I also don't think we have an economy for a Perth couple to kill. Yeah, there's nothing there that's going on. So like, it was going to be a free settlement, but they couldn't get any free settlers to come because it's a shithole.

You know, some people say Perth is a shithole, that's not true, that's not fair. A shithole is actually a very good material to grow plants in. Perth isn't. Perth is great, they have some of the best beaches in WRO. It's actually a very good material to grow plants in. Which isn't. It's great. They have some of the best beaches in W.R. Beautiful beaches, but have you ever tried to grow crops on the beach? It's hard work.

Right. So they need convicts, right? They basically couldn't get any free settlers, so they were like, we need slaves. How can we get slave labor? And slavery had been abolished in the British Empire in 1833 and James Sterling, who was the governor of the Swan River colony as it was called at the time, he was trying to get laborers from India and China to come over like indentured servants and his family

had gone real rich through the slave trade. That's another story we can go into another time. But anyway, he was like, we get these Chinese guys, these Indian guys, we can start growing cotton in WA, and what you do is we'll pay them such little amount of money and like a bit of rice, and then they'll never be able to leave. They won't have enough money to leave, but we'll be able to out-compete those evil American slavers. But I don't think he really understood why slavery was bad. He thought it was like just not profitable enough. See if you pay the money, then you can just take the money back for rent and then they still will be stuck. Yeah, he sort of thinks he's found a loophole. It's not really, they're not, you can't call them slaves. I'm paying them.

I'm paying them. Less than it would cost to keep a slave. You don't, yeah. That's not, that's not slavery when you're paying. When you're, absolutely. So that ended up, the government didn't go with that, but they ended up going. They went, you are. He couldn't convince them. You are an evil man.

But no, I bet you they were like, we don't see the business here. Yeah, yeah. They weren't morally opposed. Well, yeah, exactly. And a big part of it, he wanted to connect Perth to the Indian trade routes, you know what I mean? A big part of Perth's problem is it's just so far

from everywhere. It's the most isolated capital city in the world. Pop stars don't like going there now. Yeah. Can you imagine how like traders didn't want to go there when it was on a boat? So far, man. And again, another, you know,

another reason they wanted to stop it was like, they wanted, they founded it because they kept being like, oh, the French are going to take it. The French didn't want it. He's worried about the French coming over. Every city in Australia, you look up, why did they start the city? It's like, oh, the French't want it. He's worried about the French coming over. Every city in Australia, you look up, why do they start the city? It's like, oh, the French might want it.

Imagine if we had like a French colony in Perth. That'd be amazing. Yeah, it would be our Montreal. Yeah, it could have been. Adelaide sort of like a bit of it was a bit of a German settlement, wasn't it? A lot of Germans came, but the French had also they'd mapped the southern coast of Australia, the Borden, the captain in, he'd met up with Flinders on a ship.

They were mapping the territory at the same time. And he went back to France and he wrote Terra Napoleon on the map. And the British were like freaking out like, oh, my God, this is a British continent. You know, we don't want it to be called Terra Napoleon, which obviously means like Napoleon land, but also it could be the Terra of Napoleon. Yeah, that's good. That's pretty bad. That's a good bad word plan sounds like a movie in which Napoleon is some sort of zombie. Yeah Where he's eating the brains? That's why the French Revolution happened. They cut him off those heads so he get his brains Makes sense makes sense now. Well, they were the zombies right? That's you know, you can kill him

I guess you have to destroy the brain like that at Waterloo, Wellington's just like shoot the brain boys Red terror a lot of that doesn't come through in the history books. They don't mention it as much but that's what that's the subtext So I just need to quickly let the listeners know Angus is doing this all from the top of his dome I also wanted to bring attention to that you going Nick Mason style who comes in here and talks about like the history of Marvel For about a hundred years without any Reference material in front of him. You are absolutely just riffing this the dates are coming out left right and center I'm thoroughly impressed good sir. Most of this came to me in a dream Riffing you're improvising at the end you'll just say and see yeah, so anyway, so we're establishing why convicts happened in Perth, right?

The York Agricultural Society was like, we need laborers. We need laborers. Can't get enough free laborers. We need laborers. And so the compromise, and you can imagine if you were a free settler who was there to work, you're like, I don't want slaves. Who hates slavery more than a free worker, apart from maybe slaves? Imagine if it were your job, right?

Like a slave started working at the cubicle next to you on the spreadsheets. You'd be like, I'm not getting that raise. There's no way I'm getting that raise. You're like, hey, what are you having for lunch? And he's like, what's lunch? You're like, oh, I'm done. But anyway, so they did a compromise.

The compromise solution was they brought out these guys, these kids called the Pankhurst boys, the Pankhurst apprentices, which were child convicts. They're not evil. Like 12 to 15 year old boys, the Pankhurst apprentices, which were child convicts. We're not evil. Like 12 to 15 year old boys, right, who had committed crimes and they were sent over as apprentices to work for people. They were, people would be like, were they slaves? Well, could they leave their apprenticeship? No.

Were they free to go where they wanted? Absolutely not. Were they paid? Not really. You're free to swim home at any time you like. Yeah. The first person executed in Perth was one of the apprentices, the Pankos apprentices. He'd killed his employer's son and then he was sent to jail. Apparently, he only confessed the night before to the priest and he was so little that they had to add extra weight to his legs.

Oh my god. To hold it like so that he would actually drop properly. So how- how- he was still a teen. 15, yeah. Jesus. So sad, man. Anyway, so that didn't- you know, that wasn't not enough. These boys were not enough.

No, this better be factual. If you've just thought of that, you're an equal bust. Wow. That came to me in a nightmare, that one. You're an evil buster. Wow. That came to me in a nightmare that one. No, I read that in a book about a Fremantle penal colony. So in 1850, they got convicts.

Nowhere else in the world really want to accept British convicts at this point. They were still being accepted in Van Diemen's land and in Canada. Obviously America had long ago refused British convicts and New South Wales didn't want them anymore. Queensland didn't want them. Victoria didn't want them. There was a huge anti-transportation league. These are all states in Australia.

Victoria is where we are now. Yeah, look it up yourself if you're listening to an Australian podcast. Van Diemen's land is Tasmania. Tasmania now, yeah. I think that was a mistake. Van Diemen's land is Tasmania. Tasmania now, yeah. I think that was a mistake. Van Demons land, much superior. Well that was a part, that's the reason why they changed it man, because there was such stigma about being an ex-convict or convict from, and they would call them the demons.

It's right there dude, they're doing the wordplay themselves. They're like, we cannot be having this demon moniker going on, you know, this is not good for us. And then they name their most famous animal a devil? Yeah, they're not thinking. They're not thinking. So it's named after Abel Tasman? Yes.

They could have just called it Abel and they would have been like, yeah, we're Abel. Yeah. We're really- Abel-and. We can do stuff, okay? Yeah, but then they probably would have got that disabled. Okay. And that's when people weren't as progressive as we are back then, you know?

Anyway, so. I only look at things in the positive light. Sure. Yeah. So you- Dave refuses to see negatives. So the other states, they didn't want it anymore. You know, they called it the stain or the taint of transportation of convict labor.

Oh, right. Which I understand why you call it the stain and the taint because the taint even though It's a clean area itself. It has it does have the stain of being close to the asshole Also adjacent proximity. Yeah Like I don't we don't want to be having any we don't want Perth to get convicts because we'll get the taint Will be the taint of their stain We'll get the taint. We'll be the taint of their stain. You know what I mean? It makes sense. It makes sense. They think the convicts are gonna like during the gold rush in Victoria, right? They're like we don't all these fucking convicts from Van Diemen's land are gonna come out here cause lots of crime

You know and they did they did cause a majority of the crime So sometimes you shouldn't stereotype and sometimes they are very accurate stereotypes. Well, stereotyping criminals as people who might commit crime. Who might commit more crimes, yeah. Well, you know, it is what- Especially like you were saying before when they don't have enough food. So they have to- So it was tough. It was a tough- They have to steal to-

Survive. subsist. Yeah. But I mean, they were probably- they were coming from a place where they had to steal to survive as well, probably. And some of them got rich, rich as hell during the gold rush. That's another story for another time. But while the gold rush was going on, incidentally, 1851, or was it 52 when they found gold in Ballarat?

Off the top of your head? 51. So 1850, just before the gold rush starts, Perth gets its fully grown convicts. Because before, I was gonna say, but they're the little boys. That was the compromise, the pan-curse boys. And you're like, well, it's not as fully grown convicts. Because before, I was gonna say, but they're the little boys. That was the compromise, the Pankhurst boys. And you're like, well, it's not as bad as convicts

because they're little. You know what I mean? They're little, they're barely around. But it wasn't enough labor. So they got, 1850, they get their first convicts. And this is now where Moondye and Joe comes into the picture. So Moondye and Joe, he was born John Barili John Barilius? Johns. Joseph Barilius Johns.

So he was like a gladiator or something. They love, dude man, they love these fucking crazy, I've been looking up some of these guys, they love a crazy middle name. Barilius. Barilius. Barilius is fantastic. Yeah, like I, I, um, I was reading some, like, uh, one of Adelaide's first, uh, sort of officials,

his middle name was like Severus. But they have like the sort of normal what we'd consider normal first and second names and then they just go on hog wild with the middle name. Well I think that's what the middle name should be. I agree we should go back to that like just throw in whatever you want. Bit of fun. What's yours? Edward. Yeah it's nothing. Me and David dull ones as well. The same dull one. James. Yeah, that's a common one. Very dull. What a waste of space.

I would kill for Beryllious. Or Hog Wild. Hog Wild. What about that for a middle name? Dave Hog Wild Warnocky. Yeah. Is it Hyphened or two middle names? He's Hog Wild.

Yeah, he's got me Hog. He was born in 1831, Moondine, somewhere in the United Kingdom. People don't know exactly where. But they say maybe Wales or Cornwall. You know, similar sort of West country kind of thing. I think we knew that, you know, you're very poor.

No one's kicked. They're taking huge records. And in 1848, a police sergeant stops Joe and one of his friends walking along the street at like 8.30 at night. And he's very suspicious. What are you doing up that late? You know, what do you do?

What do you do at 8.30? 2.30, sorry. Did I say 8.30? Okay. I thought you said 8.30. 8.30, yeah. That would be suspicious because that's dinnertime. Why aren't you at home watching the bill?

And he's caught, they get searched. They're stopped searched and they're stopped and frisked, you know. It was like New York under Giuliano back then. You could stop and search. I think you based it on what they were doing in Cornwall? They based it on Cornwall. They based this on Moondine Joe. New York will come into the story later. It is funny how people talk about how you can't do anything anymore.

Everything is a nanny state Times before now were probably often worse. Yeah. Well, that's that's the thing with the convict thing Like I know a lot of people go like our convicts They were sent here for like really bad crimes and stuff, but you can look up the registers yourself It's like it really was often stealing Some bit of bread moon dying Joe got caught with three loaves of bread, one partially eaten. Two rashes of bacon and various cheeses. He was going to get a spread.

He had a charcuterie ball. What are you in for? Charcuterie. And do you want to know what his sentence was? What he was sentenced for this? They said you have to eat all of this cheese right now. That will come up. Yeah, he should have. If only he had.

If only our boy had. Is that what he was trying to like a drug dealer flushing stuff down the toilet? That's why that bread was half eaten. He was trying to destroy the evidence. He quickly... He's guilty of having leftovers. So he got 10 years for that. 10 years?

It feels about right. It feels about right. But apparently, I mean, it depends what kind of cheese is. Yeah, at least fancy cheeses. This is another thing that came to me in a dream, but it's disputed. Well, it's all soft as disputed, but he'd gone before the judge, right? And he represented himself in court, as you do. You know, we've all seen, you know know DUI shows you've got to represent yourself Yeah, absolutely and he gets ten years and apparently other people

Have you got a lawyer you would have got one? Apparently a lot of people who would charge with similar crimes, but they were given like two to three months by that judge Your honor if I should say that I mean this it's not a real honor to talk to you, you piece of shit Yeah, he went hog wild He had his day in court, and boy, what is the day, what a day He got an 18 hour filibuster Yeah, so he then spends a couple of years just like, uh, in English prisons, and then he was sent to WA to Finish off his sentence and he got a ticket He got a feel a little bit of time in in like Fremantle and then he was given a ticket to leave

So basically you can go out and work in the community, you know Cuz like they were they were using the convicts to like build roads to build the prison build different public buildings So you're happy to go to WA because you do get a bit more freedom than just being locked up all the time? Maybe I don't know man. I think some people like that's the interesting thing about the convict system was in certain parts it's like just totally brutal. It depends where you went in the system.

Totally brutal. Like some of the prisons, like the worst conditions you can imagine being on the ships, the transportation itself was like horrific. Lots of people died on those ships Like you know you're locked up in a kid. You're locked up in the hole for like nine months Yeah, you hear about the like the the food just being worm-ridden or maggot ridden probably and even though they had You know I think Captain Cook was one of the first guys to sort of deal with the problems of scurvy It's still there was still scurvy outbreaks. They didn't always get it right

You know like having having fresh food available. I think it could be really the transportation itself could be horrific. Yeah, they do Margaritas now to combat that. Don't they? Now on most cruises is Margaritas. That's why you get the lime. Yeah, the lime is to combat scurvy. So, but then I don't know the respects you're right, man.

Like you could go out and work and some some convicts got really wealthy like um One of the guys who actually finance Perth was a convict called Simon Levy. He'd been sent to Botany Bay, New South Wales as Convict for stealing a chest of tea and while he was there he married a wealthy emancipus daughter. Emancipus is a convict who's had their time spent, like they've done their time, and he became incredibly wealthy. He like had rope factories in Tahiti. He had a bunch of different businesses. He became so rich when he returned to England, he returned on a ship that he owned.

That is close. He had rope factory money. He had rope, he had that rope money. You see that, see that rigging? I own that. That's from my factory. That's one of mine. And so he, he,

Thomas Peel, who was an aristocrat in England, sort of a fail son, a bit of like a wastrel, if you will. A wastrel? A bit of a wastrel. That's fantastic. We've never had that word on the show before. I'm almost certain of it. You've never had a smart guess.

No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Or host. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. No, you guys are brilliant. I'm a jello jerk. No, like, so these were the guys that were going to finance the Perth settlement, right? But Thomas Peel, who was convinced to do this by James Sterling, his backers dropped out. They wanted four million acres of land from the government. The government was like, no, you can have like a million.

There's no way you can bring out 10,000 settlers. It's not going to happen. But Simon Levy was the silent backer. He came in and he was very charmed by Thomas Peel because Thomas Peel is an aristocrat and Simon Levy, he got no respect, no esteem neither. Partly because he was an emancipist, a convict, you know, that stain and the taint didn't go away. And also because he was Jewish, you know, and there was anti-Semitic times.

So he was really charmed by Thomas and he gave him the money, but Thomas didn't put his name on any of the books. Didn't tell the government. So when Perth is failing, Thomas Peel, that's another story, like totally fucked up his settlement. Like it's insane. You could do a whole story on Thomas Peel, but he never told Simon Levy what was happening. So Simon Levy went to the government like, so what's going on in Perth? And like, we're not telling you, your name's not on the books. And then he died a year later. He apparently have a broken heart. But I don't know if that's

true. I think people romanticise because when his wife, Simon Levy's wife left him, I remember when she was married and then he put out a new She left him for another man and he put out a thing in the newspaper being like I'm not paying any of her bills If she asked for credit, I'm not paying it. He put that in the newspaper. He put in the newspaper. Wow. Yeah That's how you communicate back then. He just took his son and just went back to England. Yeah. Yeah, he was like fine What do they mean by that broken heart? Dying of a broken heart? I think maybe you just lose the will to live. I think that's what they say. But I think people just died back then a lot. So anyway, that's an example of a comic who did get very rich. There were opportunities. So it's

an interesting system, right? But Moondye and Joe, right? So he gets a job. He's capturing escaped horses and then he has to like return them to whoever owns them and he captures a horse that doesn't have a brand mark on it. So he thinks like, fuck, this could be my horse. It's a free horse. This is a free horse. This is fucking my horse. So he brands it, but that actually is technically horse stealing.

Oh, once you've branded it. Once you've branded it, you have stolen that horse. Right. So he gets arrested for that. And you come up with your own brand, you can have whatever symbol you want. Yeah, man. I think so. He went with the Nike tick.

Mine would be a shuckers. A shucker? Straight in? Yeah, yeah. I'd heat up my hand. Dude, if that horse had the fingers to do the shucker, it would not be doing that to you. So how did he get done if it had no brand? Well that's hard to know man. It's lost into the mist of time.

But apparently he got done right. I think maybe they just went, someone went like, how did you get a horse? It's a good question. Yeah. Talk about like nanny states, I was like, I've just got a horse. I've just got, it's my horse brother. It's my horse, look at this. It's a wild horse.

I captured a wild horse. Yeah, it's a Brumby. Or it was a Brumby now. I've tamed this steed. But he broke it. Yeah. He broke it. Broke it emotionally and physically.

It was a very small horse. Yeah. Yeah, so. I said it was. Anyway. I told her it looked silly. I've told her so many times that it ended up going Died of a broken heart. Died of a broken heart. There's other people say he did that some people say he stole the majesty's brand-new

Saddle and brittle, but I like the horse stealing story better because and you'll hear why he escapes from jail He re steals the horse that he's already stolen. What's his horse? It's his horse Oh, that's double jeopardy. It can't be done for stealing the same horse twice. What do you think he does with the stolen horse? Oh, I imagine he probably takes it to the Kentucky Derby. He kills it. Okay.

Okay. If I can't have it, no one can. He cuts out the brand mark. Oh. And then he goes, I cannot be a re- How can you prove that I stole the horse? There's no brand mark. And then he goes, I cannot be a re- how can you prove that I stole the horse? There's no brand mark. And they're like, you're holding the horse's blood. Well, you've got horse blood all over your hands.

We saw, you did it in the town square. They say that could be any horse's blood. So he's learned from his not destroying the evidence thing, you know, like he should have eaten those fucking blood bread, those various Jesus. He's like not destroying the evidence thing, you know, like he should have eaten those fucking bread bread those various Jesus Yeah, he's like destroy the evidence. He breaks out. He kills the horse. He cuts off the brain mark He's like prove that I fucking ever stole it. He ate the horse. They go, you know what fair enough He was gonna get ten years. Well, pleasure Damn you. Yeah, I mean that's good. But you're right. He's he's no big city lawyer. Yeah But he's got us.

So he gets three years for breaking out of prison instead of the ten he was gonna get for stealing a horse. For re-stealing it? Or for...? He's never done for re-stealing it. They can't prove he's ever done that. You just aren't allowed to break out of prison even if you were not in prison for anything they can prove. Right. Apparently two in five convicts sent to WA were sent for either being drunk or absconding from jail. So pretty minor, minor thing.

I mean if you go to Perth these days and you could arrest the whole town for being drunk on a Saturday night, am I right? Am I bloody right? Yeah, down, what's that street? Huddle? Northbridge? Northbridge. In the Northbridge area?

Northbridge area, yes. It's a war zone on Saturday night. Yeah, it is full on walking down there Yeah, well, so you've just done a show or something and then you forget what day it is Oh, and you're walking down that mainstream day like holy shit. Don't make eye contact. Don't make eye contact Just bodies flying hither and thither Real wastrel a lot of wastrel wastrel energy and thither. Real wastrels. There's a lot of wastrel energy. Big wastrel energy. Anyway, is that actually what WA stands for? Wastrel? It does stand for wastrel. Yeah, wastrel Australia. Go back to school with Rogers and get Canada's fastest and most reliable internet. Perfect for

streaming lectures all day or binging TV shows all night. Save up to $20 per month on Rogers Internet. Visit Rogers.com for details. We got you, Rogers. Anyway, so he's done for that, but that's not the end of, you know, Moondine Joe. Do you know how he got the name? Cause I can't figure it out. It's apparently from the Moondine Hills

where he was like hiding out. Might have been the Moon Cafe, the diner in Perth. Oh yeah. I would recommend you looking up what he looks like too. There's one photo of him and he's like all in sort of like, I assume marsupial leather and he's got a little, he's got a little tomahawk and he's's got this kind of face like, rrrr, you know what I mean? Like, rrrr. Yes, I'm looking at this photo that they've got on,

on his official Wikipedia page. Oh, wow. Yeah. So he's really like a poncho. It's like a poncho. Like a poncho sort of possum. Like a little, yeah. Kangaroo maybe.

Pelt, a pelt poncho. Possum pelt poncho? That's sick. And he's got big mutton chops. Big mutton chops. Oh I've just looked up To see if anyone suggested this topic. Three people have suggested this topic Angus. Three listeners. Kate Johns from Perth, Penny Tangie from Melbourne, who's also

I think was a raw Raw finals. Yeah Kelly Minchin Dale from Perth and another Kelly from Cranburn in Victoria. And I would like to say before we move on, I have conflated the Bridal stealing incident and the Whore stealing incident, two different incidents. Oh right. But anyway, so he gets three years in jail, he comes out and then we get to the Ox killing incident.

Is this again evidence he's destroying? No, well, this one is interesting because... Oh, you made out with that ox. No, I didn't. What ox? He's found guilty of killing an ox with felonious intent. I love felonious intent. Felonious intent is great. Because do we have felonies here? What it?

I don't know. I'm not, I'm no, I'm no big city lawyer. To me, a felony just sounds American to me, but it probably is. I think it's where we all, is America is also a common law country, right? Right. Like based on British. I don't know. Anyway. We looked, we have looked that up before. There's two, I think it's two different types. Oh, OK. So he-

Anyway, I love the name. I love the word felonious. He's pissed. He denies killing this ox with felonious intent. I don't know if he denies killing the ox or if he denies the felonious intent. So you can kill an ox if it's for food or- With it, with- For humane- Self-defense.

Yeah, yeah. But if it's... He didn't know the Shaka move, he didn't know the whine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he just had to kill that ox with the... Well, yeah, I don't think Crocodile Nundeed was released quite yet. Hadn't quite happened yet, so he didn't know that you can just... He didn't know the move.

He didn't use... You can hypnotize the ox into submission. So he had to kill it with felonious intent. Yeah, what a shame. So he was once again returned to the convict establishment, Fremantle Prison. Joe was registered this time as Colonial Convict Number 8189. He was transferred in, I'm reading now, this is the first time I've, I want to get some of these details. Yeah, okay, great. You didn't remember 818000. I didn't remember which convict number he was. I thought it was 8,000

169 But it was I was 20. I was 20 off He escaped again everybody was caught a week later and he was put back into he loves escaping. Yeah, he's loving escaping this time in 1866 he's placed in Irons and he wants to get his case removed. He gets four years taken off it. In August he successfully breaks free again. Like he's breaking free so much. What's he doing? And isn't it amazing that wouldn't there be a mark on his record saying, don't let this go out of your sight?

Absolutely. And that's about to happen. because this time he goes... Fool me once. Fool me five times. All right, we're going to start paying attention to this guy. He goes back out to Tood-Yea where he was convicted, caught stealing that horse. I think Toad, I don't know how to pronounce it right. It's spelled T-double-O-D-Y-A-Y. Toad-Yea, Tood-Yea, how would you say it? I think one of the ways you said sounds good. Well it was no no longer Tood yea to him, it was Tood oh no.

Because he robs a general stalksie, he decides, him and some other comics, they're gonna cross the Nullable. Which is a huge desert, which basically- Like it's so big. It's so big. Unbelievable. How many days does it take to drive? Like a week? Three full days, four full days or something. It's like, it's very similar to crossing continental North America, right? Yeah.

Maybe not quite Canada, but similar to probably parts of the USA. It's probably like half the continent. Oh, sorry, from side to side. Yeah. But yeah, the Nullarbor is a, yeah, it's like going, yeah, it's going halfway's going halfway Basically from like South Adelaide all the way to Perth. It's probably more than half. Yeah, anyway I always thought Nullabor was an indigenous word. Is it not? It means no art, no trees. It's Latin. There really is no trees. Yeah. So he robs This guy called Everett's store to get the supplies for his trip across the Nullable.

The guy's called Everett's store? The guy's called Everett's store and it's crazy that he owns a store. No, Everett who owns a store. I thought you were doing a bid but it was actual genuine confusion. Yeah, you said he robbed a guy called Everett's store and I went, oh my god. But Everett, it wasn't, you know how often with robberies and stuff it's like, you're like, it's just business, it's not personal. Apparently it was personal, he hated it.

They went out of their way. Three days ride just to get the Everett store to stock up. I'm actually doing this job at a loss. He stole so much shit that Everett had to close the store. He ruined him. He even took stuff you don't need to escape. He's like, don't take the TVs, you don't need those. Yeah, they weren't as dead.

There's no reception, we don't take the TVs. You don't need those. Yeah, they're wearing us down. There's no reception. We have an emergency. So he robbed. He goes out and he gets they get caught like a couple of days out into the Nullarbor by this Aboriginal trucker. And I think it's like he's kind of lucky he gets caught this time because he definitely would have died in the desert. He would have died. So far. Yeah, it's no way they would have made it.

It's not like, yeah, people who are pretty well prepared still die out there. Yep. Now. You get like with like a GPS beacon and like, you know, six days supply of water. He just had like a chip on his shoulder and a can-do attitude. Yeah, he had that scale and that little axe. And his hatred for everything. I didn't kill that ox.

So this time they're like, they're right man, it's like this guy he is Escaping too much. They're like they create a special cell an escape proof cell That has like, you know, it's like like under the floor. You can't dig out of it. There's barely any light There's barely any air so he's getting like no natural light He's he's chained up all the time Some people say there's even spikes on the thing like it's some sort of like he's like Hannibal Lecter They've like locked him up. And remember this guy's a guy who originally was convicted of stealing various cheeses You have to remember the kind of the level of criminal we're dealing with

Yeah, the system has forever been such a nonsense like the amount of effort and money That's been put into punishing a guy who took some cheese. Yeah it's insane. Like it doesn't make any sense. And back to the, it's like it's also it's because a poor guy who stole cheeses is now the worst criminal in the world. Yeah. Sterling, the guy who founded WA, he was a naval captain in the Caribbean and the naval captains back then during like the war of 1811 they were really incentivized to capture enemy ships because they only got paid 219 pounds a year but he captured three ships the Maria the Warren and one other

Warren the Warren I mean crazy good sounds like a 1970s couple Maria and Warren yeah went over their place for some little prawn cocktails. Yeah, we played charades after. Warren's so good. Yeah, Warren's a man. Maria's a beautiful host. Oh, she's lovely. Lovely, yeah.

Anyway, so he made £3,000 capturing ships. And then he decided he saw another ship, the Hercules. Oh, the Hercules. It was like a Argentinian ship. But it wasn't an enemy ship But he captured it anyway, and he took it into She stole the ship and then the governor of Barbados is like brother. You cannot be stealing ships That's not a ship you can steal they had to let it go anyway. It got a bit. It's outside Barbados. He stole it again

He got found guilty of stealing and was like being like sued constantly to pay back the money Which he'd like not doing I love it getting sued Depending on where you are on the class ladder He's a rich man, a naval captain so he's not getting sent to jail. No, he's getting sued So he he's the boss. Yeah, he stole a ship and this guy's in prison for stealing various cheeses But anyway, he'd obviously left by 1839 back to the UK. So I change my mind. The system has always worked.

Governor Hudson comes up to Moondine and Governor Hudson, I think it's Hudson. He'd been the convict controller in Van Diemen's land before he became the governor of Perth. And in Van Diemen's land, he'd come into trouble. He'd come under corruption allegations, which were apparently true

in an inquiry where he'd been using the convicts for his own personal gain. He'd been having them like work for him for in an inquiry where he'd been using the convicts for his own personal gain. He'd been having them work for him for free. Basically- Did you build my house? Yeah, that kind of stuff. Thank you so much.

Working as his slaves on his property. Yeah. So that was, but Governor Hudson said to Moondyne, look, this is impossible to escape from here. If you escape, you're free to go. Oh, that's sick. That is a great wager. That is so good.

It's a wager. They have a wager. A gentleman's agreement. And Joe's like, He obviously can't speak because he's got a big thing over his mouth. He's got a grill. Like he's a fucking rescue greyhound. He's all muzzled up, you know.

So yes, so that's a great deal. I think that's fair enough as well. Unless you commit more crimes, we're not going to search for you. Absolutely. So, he's dying though, basically. Because he's in this, he's locked up. Oh right, okay. Just the moon dying, you know, if you put someone in an environment with barely any

air, barely any light, no light, and you never let them move, he's slowly dying. He's like, who, Danny or David Blaine or something, isn't he? It's like, we'll put like 38 tonnes of concrete on top of you you and if you can get out of there, you're free to go. Something that Angus hasn't mentioned is that cell is suspended above the Thames in London. And English people are getting really mad and pelting golf balls at him. And there's also sharks circling underneath. Yeah. Electric eels. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. I would have thought he'd like an, he's an English gentleman type Hudson right? Give you a sporting chance. He's not giving

him any sporting chance. That's why he's made the wager. He's like you cannot, it's like a real James Bond villain kind of thing. He hasn't like. Yeah yeah yeah. I'd like to see you escape from this Mr. Moondine Joe. The name's Joe. And the circular store is moving towards him. And then he gets a call he's like oh I've got to go but I assume this will kill you. Goodbye. This is my plans for my evil plans for the rest of the day. Catch you later. So he's in the prison and they're like, OK, he's dying. What we're going to do, we're going to give him some exercise. Oh, you're saying we're going to give him a chance.

No, no, no chance. This is not boring. He's still chained up, but he's allowed now to be in the yard and they bring out some rocks and a sledgehammer. He's allowed to break rocks. Oh, okay. A little treat. A bit of you time. A little treat. What would normally be a horrific punishment is now like a little treat.

That's how bad the box is. The box is so bad, they're like a little... But what they don't do, and this is probably, I think a broader problem with why so many people could escape in Perth was, a lot of the guards who came to work in Perth had been British soldiers who were either too old or injured and they couldn't stay in the army Ah, so they were like you can no one wants to come work in Perth. You can have a job in Perth and some land

But you know, they're nodding off. They're nodding 95 years old paid like nothing. Yeah, they're 95 they crippled They don't have like eyes running away What happened was he was breaking these rocks, but they weren't clearing the rocks away from him fast enough So the rocks built up around his waist and obscured like what he was doing below He's having a little way But then he thinks I've got a sledgehammer. So he has a go at the wall of the prison with the sledgehammer. Hey.

OK. Because they can't see him because he's behind a little pile of rocks. His big pile of rocks have built up. They can't see what he's swinging at. How high is this pile of rocks? It says up to his waist. OK. So he's doing low swings.

He's doing low swings. He's like a few swings for you. But they've also set him up right on the wall. Well, you know, I think it's not day one this is happening, is it? Yeah, yeah, he's edging his way across. Oh, you say so, every day. He's edging. And he's also making his way across the hut.

He's making his way across the hut. When he gets his chance, he's like, do do do, a little bit here, so every day there's a few taps on the wall. A few taps, and then he just goes bang, bang, bang. He breaks through, he runs out of the hole through like one of the prison guards house which is just backed up against things and then he's on the run for two years, he escapes for two years.

Wait, why is he on the run? He wins. Well, we'll get to that. Aww, Hudson's a dog. We'll get to that. I knew he was already. If he just escapes his chains as well? Smashes him, he's got a sledgehammer dude.

God, this guy rules., this is this is Bush Ranger history. They give him the guns now. They're giving him the sledgehammer He rules he's on the run two years. You know he gets caught because he tries to rob a winery Know the cheese he's back for more cheese. He loves a security board He loves a security apparently there's different conflicting stories why the police are there. Some people say the police were investigating a drowning that happened in the river, and then after the drowning, you know, you're thirsty.

You've looked at all that water. Yeah. You need a tipple. So they're drinking at the winery. Some people say that they were already there doing other police work. I think they were drinking at the winery. Yeah, yeah. He tries to rob a winery,

which is just full of the local police. Oh, that is unlucky. He gets caught. They send him back to Fremantle and he says, Hey, Hudson said I could go free. If I escaped the impossible room. Yeah. And then one of the jailers backs up his story.

So yeah, Hudson's already left by this point, but he's backed up. One of the jailers says, I actually heard that. But that is also funny. And then you know what they go, they go fair enough. That is so funny. Cause he what? So now let him go?

Yeah. Cause he was robbing you. Yeah. They go fair enough. I love that. Cause they're? So now- And let him go? Yeah, he only has to serve a little bit of time. Yeah, they go fair enough. I love that because they're like, yeah, you free for the other charges. But you have since committed another robbery. But they're like, yeah, they kind of let him- they don't make him do fucking forever, yeah. And he has a few more little incidents where he gets like one month here, one month there. But then he marries a woman, he goes off, like he goes prospecting, he does a bunch of- he lives into his 70s. His wife dies

And in his 70s they find him like early 70s they find him wandering around South Perth like Northbridge oh wait is that South Perth I Don't know Perth well enough. I'm sorry close to the city Yeah close to that they find him they find him close to the city and they put him in like a lunatic asylum Oh, he's got dementia. He breaks out. No! He can't hold me!

He knows no other way! They put him in increasingly more difficult to escape prisons. He keeps escaping. The last thing, you know how some old people, they can still respond to music. Yeah, they remember it. He remembers prison escapes. That's all he can do. Shackles walls. I know what to do. He has nowhere to go. He just keeps escaping.

Does he, um, uh, do you have a count, an escape count? I don't have an escape count. It's like double digits. I'm going to say 13. I just made that. That came to me just then. Wow. Wow. Awaking dream. Yeah. And anyway, he inspires more escapes. He does he go down the talking circuit? He gets on the circuit. He goes on Joe Rogan. And Joe's like, what do you reckon would win in a fight, a chimp or a gorilla?

And he goes, a gorilla, brother. Yeah, have you seen this great photo of me with an axe? Pull it up, Todd, or whatever the guy's name is. Well, like we were talking about. What's the guy's name? He pulls up things young Jamie pull it up, Jamie We'll add to that together so it sounds like I knew So a bunch of fanions Irish Republican brothers, they are sent to Perth on the Hugh Gimont in 1868 right

Perth had said they don't we don't want any political prisoners, but they get them It's the last convict ship sent anywhere in the world British convicts sent anywhere in the world. Oh, it's to Perth had said they don't want any political prisoners, but they get them. And it's the last convict ship sent anywhere in the world. British convicts sent anywhere in the world. Mr Perth in 1868. Huguemonts. The Huguemonts. I'm probably saying that wrong. I have no idea, but I just haven't heard it before. So it's the last convict ship sent anywhere.

Perth still wants more convicts. They're like... They just don't want those convicts. No, they don't want those ones, but they're just like, we need, stop, please keep sending convicts. Like our whole economy is based on convicts. No, they don't want those ones, but they're just like, we need stop, please keep sending convicts. Like our whole economy is based on convicts. Right. Like they've got 20,000 white residents by this point

and about 9,000 are convicts or their descendants. Like the whole thing is convicts. And the British government is paying for everything. They're paying to send them there. They're paying like the wages for the guards. They're paying for like to feed the convicts. They're buying, they're pretty much the only people buying like Perth grain. You know, the whole feed the convicts. They're buying, they're pretty much the only people buying like Perth grain.

You know, the whole economy is convicts. It's not until when Calgouli, they just sort of have a golden Calgouli in 1902 that basically Perth picks up as an actual place. Because otherwise it sounds like it would have died if they weren't replenished with convicts. It was languishing, right? They're chucking coals on the fire sort of thing.

This is just, shoveling convicts. So anyway, one of the convicts is this guy called John O'Reilly, right? He's a writer. A lot of the Fenians who were brought out, they were in the British army and they'd refused to fire on Irish protesters. They'd refused to kill them.

And you go to prison for that. Refusing to fire. Yeah, refusing to fire. It's up there with stealing various cheeses. But anyway so this guy he's a he's a he's also a writer he's he he he gets caught um and charged for treason as a young guy uh O'Reilly and he... Oh because he didn't want to... He didn't want to shoot him in the fire in his country. Well he wasn't one of the ones that did that but he was caught trying to recruit more people from his regiment into the Irish Republican Brotherhood. The Faneans.

He gets sent to prison, he tries to escape a couple of times there, he loves to escape. He gets sent eventually on the Hugamont to Perth, and on there he starts his own handwritten newspaper called The Wild Goose. That's a great name. It's a great name. The Wild Goose. The Wild Goose. And he's going to make It's a great name. The Wild Goose. And he's gonna make him chase. He said it's handwritten. Yeah, handwritten. So how many copies? Well, apparently one still survives. He made multiple editions and stuff. He just writed them out.

He wrote them out. Yeah. And there's one still in the New South Wales State Library, which I'd love to see one day. If any of our listeners get a chance to have a look at it, it'd be very interesting. Anyway, so he's a writer. He's imprisoned in Perth. He becomes friends with a local Irish priest, like an Irish priest, Catholic priest, and they decide we're gonna escape. We're gonna send you back. We're gonna send you to America. So the priest gets an American whaling ship

called the Vigilant to agree to take him. So he abscons from his work party. He hides out in the dunes and then he rows a boat out. But the ship takes off. The ship ignores him. No, it renegs on the deal. So he's just rowing after a ship. Yeah, he's just like, please. Come on. So he has to row back to shore.

Yeah. Hide out in the dunes again for a couple of days. The priest comes back. They agree to get another ship to take him. The American ship called the Gazelle. The Gazelle the Gazelle takes it was gonna take him to Java is it ends up having to go to Mauritius cuz um there's storms in the shipping lanes when he gets to Mauritius which is another British company they know they know that there's an absconder from WA on board oh but they refuse to give up a Raleigh a Raleigh had been with this another guy like a regular

convict they just give him off They go hey take this one. He's the guy they sort of just lie and say he's the one you want. And the other guy's like what the fuck? But he doesn't say, he still doesn't give up O'Reilly. Really? The convict code even though he's been absolutely shafted. Yep, so O'Reilly then gets put on another ship, another whaling ship they meet in the middle of the ocean. He gets taken to Philadelphia where he joins up with like a lot of the Irish Republicans. He ends up in Boston and New York Where he's like riding doing all the stuff in? That he's then approached by other fanians like we're gonna plan a big breakout

we're gonna get more of our guys out of WA and in I just want to get the exact date for this one 1876 So he escapes I think in 1871, he gets back to America. In 1876 the Phanians, they buy a whaling ship, an American whaling ship, and they put some operatives on board, like they cut the fucking power between Freemantle jail and like Freemantle and Perth.

They like get their guys out, they get them on a boat, they take them out to the whaling ship. They get chased by a British fucking ship. They put up the American flag, being like, if you shoot us, it's war with America. Oh, whoa. Yeah, and then the ship's like, fuck it, we're not doing that.

They get back to New York, big party, amazing. But then you know what fucking O'Reilly does? He writes a novel called Moondine. Oh. Based on Moondine Joe. Right, how did they cross paths? Moondine. Oh. Based on Moondine Joe. Right. How did they cross paths? Moondine Joe escaped in 1868.

He came to Perth in 1867 and apparently his escape was partially based off hearing of how Moondine had escaped. Right. It inspired him. That escape in 1871. So he writes a novel called Moondine based on Moondine Joe, like loosely, in which the character Moondine Joe escapes from prison, meets up with an Aboriginal group who tell him about a gold mine in WA, which again there would

be gold in WA. He gets really rich from the mine, becomes a philanthropist in England, comes back to WA where he meets up with a convict girl and her child and he dies trying to save him from a bushfire. And then that movie, which I, which I That novel gets turned into one of the early silent films in 1913 Wow So Moondine becomes like the the second most sort of famous escapees from Perth writer novel about the most famous Yeah, that's awesome. Yes, cool. Love that What a tale Yeah, absolutely crazy. Have you seen any of the footage of the 1913? No, I haven't. I'd love to have a look.

I'm sure it must be somewhere. Yeah, I really hope so. Because yeah, that's really, really cool. I just saw there was... What's this guy's name? Moondine. M-O-O-N-D-Y-N-E, I think. I'm just seeing what so this is what Penny who

suggested it said. Moondine Joe was a fun bushranger who didn't kill anyone. He was so good at escaping from prison that eventually the authorities let him go because it was so embarrassing. Yeah you just kept escaping. That's so funny. Oh, also she's written, oh, there's a Moondine festival, but that would be based on the place. Well, apparently that novel, Moondine, they did readings from it to celebrate its centenary fairly recently.

And Peter Rosenthorn, the comedian, is one of the people that read out part of the book. Oh, wow. That's so fun. Yeah. I can't believe I've never heard of those Fenians buying their own ship, sailing across the world, breaking out their dudes and then pissing off back home. That's so incredible. It's an amazing story. That's so crazy. And

then yeah, I love that guy's like, well rather than write my own story, which is obviously amazing I'll write about Moondine. He's my hero. Yeah according to Kelly Minchin Dale from Perth who also suggested she said there's now a pub named after him in Freo as well That's the highest honor of all. Well next time you're there. You'll have to drop in. I will I love Freo Yeah, cool. Um, oh sick. What a great tale. Thanks so much for telling it. Oh no. Oh no.

Oh no, have you? I've looked up Moondine, Joe's Bar and Cafe, according to Google Maps is permanently closed. Oh no. I'm sorry about that. It was described as- The owner's escaped. Never mind. Described as- She did suggest it in 2018, so that is... It's described as a roomy venue with a vintage feel featuring a sports bar, an Irish style

tavern, which Matt absolutely loves an Irish bar, and a bottle shop. It had everything. I've got to go wrong. And so is there a reason why you've been so interested in in this topic lately. Well, I'm doing a show coming up about the early colonization or founding of Perth Adelaide and Melbourne. I'm doing the first one in September 14th at Hoda on the Gold Coast. Oh sick Oh, that's a great venue. That's awesome big art center. Yeah, home of the arts. Yeah, which is we always said that's on the Gold Coast Yeah, I is we always said that's on the Gold Coast. Yeah. Yeah, I've always said The heart of the art is just at surface on the gun. That's where you go for the best art

I'll be doing it October 4th or 5th. I think a good chat in Brisbane Oh, so and then at the elephant and wheelbarrow as part of The Melbourne fringe October, I think 17th to 19th. Oh, I mean, that's so good So that's why it's so in your head at the moment you're right Yeah, so if you come along there'll be this this Moondine Joe story again, but there'll be stories from like Melbourne about Batman, about Falkner, about William Buckley who was an escaped convict who lived with the indigenous people. Oh yeah, did the whole Be A Pioneer first season, I followed his path. There'll be stories about Edward Wakefield who was a convict. He was, he never sent to Australia, but he was sent to prison for abducting he got a he got addicted to abducting he was a rich guy

So he didn't really get much He should have gone to jail for a long time actually But then he came up with his own penal colony system where he thought you know you need to call on Australia but without Convicts and he sought the problem with Australia was a labour problem again. He thought there's too much land. Why people are stealing too much land? Any poor white person can get land so why would they work for anyone else?

What you need to do is you need to make land so expensive that poor people can't buy it. Oh, they finally put that into action. He would have loved now. He would have loved now. He was stoked. That's what Adelaide is based on. What a sort of pedophile thought. Okay.

But yeah, it's a crazy story and stories about Adelaide and Perth as well. More Perth stories. I'd love to see some listeners of Do Go On there. Is that your good chat show part of the Caxton Street Festival? I don't think so. I think it's just a... Oh cool. I'm up there in October of the Caxton Street Festival? I don't think so. I think it's just a... Oh cool. I'm up there in October for Caxton Street Festival doing a Who Knew It and a

podcast and a stand-up show but might not be the same time. I think that might be just earlier than that but if we're there at the same time it'd be amazing to cross paths again. And Angus, what are you calling the show? What's the name of the show? It's called Outback Outcasts, a comedian's take on the wild beginnings of Perth, Adelaide and Melbourne. Love that. We'll put some links in the show notes to all those cities if people want to go along. We very much encourage you. Go ahead and see a raw comedy winner taking on some Aussie history. That's great. Yeah, Hannah Gadsby, Angus Gordon, the list goes on.

They all do shows mainly about Aussie history. That wasn't what Annette was about. It was about one of a convict woman that she met on the road. Yeah, that's what we all do. We all end up doing those sort of shows. Yeah. Well, thanks very much for having me, guys. Oh, man, it was amazing. It was a great story. I've got to say, incredible in the room to see you reel off all those dates and facts and figures from the top of the dome. But yeah, that makes sense now that you are you I mean, that's what you're going to do on

stage. Yeah, it's pretty soon. So yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. If you'd love to see me say things from memory, you can come see me. Are you doing it in Melbourne or anywhere else? Yeah, at Melbourne Fringe. Oh, sorry.

That's okay. Put me off on a wheelbarrow. Oh, what a beautiful spot. An English pub. An English pub. It feels very appropriate. Yeah, I often will bear. Oh, what a beautiful spot an English pub an English pub appropriate. Yeah With some feinian stories All right, well Angus Gordon, thank you so much. Thanks guys. Well as we say goodbye to Angus we say hello to Everyone's favorite section of show where we thank some of our fantastic supporters And we do this every

week. It takes somewhere between 20 to 40 minutes usually. Angus has left but Dave is still here. Dave are you pumped to thank a few people? It's what I live for. It's so good to do it and if you want to be one of these people and if it wasn't for them the show wouldn't exist. If I can speak plainly for a second. Absolutely, absolutely speaking real. They have gone to patreon.com

slash dugongpod and there's a bunch of different levels. You can get bonus episodes. There's now four bonus episodes a month including a bonus report, a quiz, something like that. Then there is the Dugong Movie Club where we watch a different movie every month. The first one happened last month and we watched Back to the Future, an absolute classic. Yeah, great times were had. And also the D&D campaign. There's all that sort of stuff. You also get to vote for topics and you get access to the nicest corner of the internet, the Facebook group.

But one of the other things, if you're on the Sydney Schomburg level or above, you get to give us a fact or quote or a question or a brag or a suggestion or really whatever you like at all. And I read them out on the show. Normally I read one, two, three, four of them. Today I've got two beauties for you. The first one comes from, oh, hang on, Dave, have I forgotten? Does this have a jingle? Does this have a jingle? It does have a jingle. Fact, quote or question? Ding. Ah, I always remember the ding. Dave always remembers to sing. Perfect. And this week first up we've got David, aka A Place

to Hang Your Cape, Malofsky, and his title is Director of Pun Parodies. I think it's the first time we've got one of these. This one's been labelled Challenge Dave. Oh my God, throw down the gauntlet. Yeah, I'm excited for this. And the challenge, oh let's find out what it is. I have a challenge this time and it's for Dave. Oh my God Dave.

That's me. I was just getting ready to be challenged, but anyway. So it's me versus another Dave. The world. Mano Mano. I've made a list of 25 films that have or will come out in 2024. The challenge is to see how quickly Dave can come up with porn parody names for them. Twenty five. And he's so he's saying in 69 seconds, see how many you can get. Oh, I'm with you. I was going to say, OK, all right. I'm.

Do you want to join in too? It's a bit it's more fun with two people going for it. Pardon the bum. All right. No, I think the challenges for you. If he challenged me, I would have loved to have been involved. So, 69 seconds.

These are all 2024 movies. Okay, David. I mean, I think if you get into a rhythm, the first four, you might really be able to make them work quickly. All right. The time starts when I've read the first movie name. That's good. That's good Rebel moon part 1 a child of fire

Rebel full moon and then on the covers it's someone's ass. Yeah, and it's still part 1 a child of fire Someone's fartin number 2 rebel moon part 2 the scar giver the scar giver The hand job giver rebel poon the hand job giver Number two, Rebel Moon part two, the Scargiver. The Scargiver. The Handjob Giver. Rebel Poon, the Handjob Giver. Three, the Rebel Moon chapter one, Chalice of Blood. Chalice of Gum. Rebel Moon chapter two, Curse of Forgiveness. Curse of forgiving someone a handjob. A Furiosa. A Mad Max story.

Furious Handjob. A Mad Jack story. Mad Jack off. Madam Web. Oh, that's the full title? You got 12 seconds. Web like you know like isn't that like a thing for cum. Madam Web of Cum. Deadpool and Wolverine final one. Dead Poon. I'm afraid the time is up. Oh 69 seconds goes so fast. It does go very quickly.

What would you say? Let's work on Deadpool and Wolverine. Dead... A head. Alright, head, poon, and wooly Vigene. Wooly Vigene. Wolverine cream.

Wooly Vigene. I'm surprised even myself. Why was it Wully? Why were there part 1, 2, 3 and 4 of the moon one? What is that? Rebel moon. I don't know. Anyway, what a great challenge. Love that. I'm tied into as well as you wanted me to.

Well, we don't know how well he wanted you to do. But you got through at least, I'm claiming 7. That's not about score 7, that's more than, wait is that more than 1 every 10 seconds? Yeah. Yeah, you did it. And the next one this week comes from Craig Dalgarno, okay, operations manager of managing Dugon operations and Craig's offering a brag

writing hi team long time listener first time subscriber finally at a place in my life where I can really invest my money in lucrative businesses like keeping the lights on for someone else and you you sure are keeping the lights on you keeping the marks on exactly and that's the way for you to get success yourself yeah we are now running a pyramid scheme yeah yeah you get on the bottom work Keeping the lights on, keeping the mics on. Exactly, and that's the way for you to get success yourself. Yeah. We are now running a pyramid scheme. Yeah, yeah. You get on the bottom, work your way up.

Now you're here. My humble brag involves one of you three. Oh, let's see if it's Buddy Dave again. This feels like a Dave day. Yeah, it's all about me. I'm part of a band in Perth. A few years ago, we connected our Spotify for Artists. One of the features is it shows you who has added your songs to their playlists. We were excited to see that we

had been added to Jess Perkins' 30th birthday playlist. Two of our songs in fact. Whoa! I'm not sure if Jess ever heard the songs, but we had a good little humble brag about it within the group. We are all Jess fans from the Jays and I'm a big Dave and Matt fan too. Stop it, you're making me blush. I'm hoping one day Bravo Inferno will be able to tour around Australia with Weed Hornet. We've released a bunch of singles the last year or so so feel free to check out the new stuff. Humble brag. Thanks for all the years of laughs. Diggsie. Diggsie.

Diggsie from Bravo Inferno? Bravo Inferno. That's fucking great man. And I wonder, yeah, so Jess obviously enjoys your stuff and she's putting you on her 30th playlist. Yeah. Two tracks, not just one, two. Yeah, that's- That can't be a mistake. Yeah, first track could be a mistake. Second track. Ah, that's legit. Ah, thank you so. Second track, that's legit. Thank you so much. Oh, that's great. What a shame that Jess isn't here. But I'm sure she's listening.

Shout out to you, Jess, who is fine. So thank you so much to Craig and David for those facts, quotes, and questions. Like I say, if you want to get involved in that, sign up on the Sydney Schoenberg level or above. There'll be more of those coming next week. The other thing we like to do, one of the other things we like to do is a shout out section Dave. Oh yeah.

We normally come up with a game based on the topic at hand. Could it be their Bushranger name? I think that's good. And his was sort of a place he was from. So I mean that's what we can work off but maybe we can add a little bit more pizzazz. Do you want to be the name reader or the name come-er-up with a... I feel like all my energy was gone on porn parodies. Oh, so we'll flip the script.

Okay. Chalice of Come was fantastic. So I'd like to thank, first of all, from Queensland, right here in Australia, I'd like to thank and you can go see Angus Gordon perform live very soon if you're anywhere near Brisbane, Bruce Purvis. Oh, from Balgal Beach? The Balgal Beach Purve. Bruce Purvis.

The Purve. I mean, I wish I'd had Bruce Purvis for the porn parody section. The Balgal Beach. Bruce the Balgal Beach perv. And then they just shouldn't shorten it to the Balgal perv. Gal perv. Gal perv's not a bad name I like it. Oh no you've just been struck by Gal perv. Gal perv. The Gal perv bandit. Oh no it's Gal perv and his gang. Gal perve bandit and his gang of bandits. And purves.

They're also bandits and purves. In brackets and purves. On your Gal Pal, Gal Pal Purve. I would like to thank also from, well not also, it's from a location that's unknown to us, not supplied so we can only assume they're deep within the fortress of the moles. Thank you to Uzman Abassi.

Oh, the Abassi badass. Oh, that's good. The Abassi badass. Oh, that's good. The Abassi badass. That feels good. Yeah. Ousman is such a great name. I love the name Ousman. Ousman Abassi, the Abassi badass.

The Abassi badass. Love it. I'd like to thank from Coventry in the West Midlands and Greatest of Britain's Samantha Royston. Oh, the Royston Royal. Oh, the Royal. The Royal. Just the Royal's good, isn't it?

Yeah, the Royal bandit, the Royal, the Royal Ranger. Oh, that's really cool. Royal Ranger. Oh, calling card is leaving a cup of tea on... A freshly boiled cup of tea for the victim. Oh, that's nice. That seems like something a royal would do. The royals.

Give something away. Yeah, they love giving. They love giving. They love to give. They live to give the royals, especially our queen. Thank you, royal. Lizzy too. May she long reign.

Good on you, Lizzy. I would like to thank from Macclesfield in Cheshire. I would like to thank, this is already a a gang of two Sophie stock and Aaron Kelly. Oh The stock and Kelly Mac Daddy's Stock and Kelly Mac Daddy's I mean Kelly gang Stock Kelly and waterman from a stock Man and waterman bit of fun stock Yeah. Ackman and Waterman. Bit of fun. Ah, Stock. Stock take.

The Mac Daddy. Ah, the Stock take. Yeah, Stock. The Mac Daddies. The Mac Daddies. The Mac Daddy duo. Yeah. Sophie Stock and Aaron Kelly.

Powerful combination. That's really good. Good on you from Macclesfield. I'd like to thank from Bergen in Norway. Thank you two. And this is all one word. Oh my God. Any relation to Moondyne, Joe?

Moomin Troll. Moomin Troll. Moomin Troll. Moomin Troll. Moomin Troll. Moomin Troll. to thank from Bergen in Norway. Thank you too. And this is all one word. Oh my God. Any relation to moon, Dainto? Moomin Troll. Both start with Moom. I may have misread it as moon at first, but it is Moom in Troll. All one word. Thank you Moomin Troll.

The Bergen Vagabonds. Bergen Vagabonds. The Bergen Vagabonds. The Bergen Vagabonds. And then you can just show it as the Vagabee. The Vagabee. The Bergen Vagabee. Bergen Vagabond. The Bergen Vagabond. The Bergen Vagabond. And then you can just show them the Vagabee. The Vagabee, the Bergen Vagabee. Oh, that's good. Bergen Vagabee.

The Bergen Vagabee is struck again. The Bergen Vagabee. Oh no, the Bergen Vagabee is here. Oh no, the Bergen Vagabee is struck again. We know they're gentlemen. Back in town, the Bergen Vagabee. We know they'll often leave a cup of tea, which they ripped off the Royce and Royal.

Yeah, that's right. The Royal Ranger Now next I would like to thank from location unknown again probably deep in the fortress of moles a single word This is like Madonna. This is Adele. This is Rihanna. This is Erica. Oh Erica looks like your surname begins with an M From your Gmail account in case you want to know this is you Erica. What do you got? the Eric cannibal this is you. Erica, what do you got? The Eric Cannibal. Oh, the Eric Cannibal. Wow, you're on fire over there. That's great. Somebody put me out. Yeah, geez. Eric, Eric Cannonball. Fire alarms going off in here. That's incredible. Eric Cannibal or Eric Cannab, Cannonball? Two options for you, Erica. Like when you're robbing a bank. Eric Cannonball!

Yeah, yeah. You come in, you bash and crash. Or you go in and you eat your victims. Either way. Or all of the above. Oh yeah, that's true. Hey, I'd like to thank from Melbourne, right here where we are right now, thank you to Brendan Ireland.

Oh, Brendan Ireland. Brendan Ireland. It's Brendan Ireland. Brendan Ireland. It's got to be something like the fighting Irishman or something, right? Yeah. What about you love Irish pubs? What about just the pub?

Oh, the pub. Oh, no, we've been done in by the pub. The pub's here. The pub's here. Pub, pub, Robson pub. Yeah, I like that. Thank you to Brendan Ireland.

I'd like to thank from Dulwich Hill in New South Wales. Thank you to. Another Rihanna Adele-esque. It's just Beau. Oh Beau. The arrow. Beau and arrow. Beau. The arrow. Oh that's good. That's really good. Where do you get your ideas? Yeah. Pretty good. Beau. Outta Waking Dream. And Bo, I don't know how I can give you a clue as to who you are. You're from Dollard Chill and you've got a hot male. That's a strong clue. You must know it's you Bo.

And I would like to thank, finally from Colchester in Essex, it's Joel March. Ooh Joel March. March of Ides. You've got the March Madness. Joel March. Oh, Joel March. March of Ides. You got the March Madness. The March Madman. Okay, yeah, yeah. Saints go marching in.

The Saint. That's pretty good. The Saint is really good. I love the Saint. All right, we'll go The Saint. Thank you so much to Joel, Bo, Brendan, Erica, Moom, Sophie and Aaron, Samantha, Usman and Bruce. Another great crop.

What a friend. We only have brilliantly named supporters. I don't know, some people are probably holding back saying, oh, I don't know if we can support the show. Our name isn't that brilliant. It becomes more brilliant as soon as you support the show. That's our guarantee. Yeah, we put a bit of Raz on you.

Dave, I think that means all that's left to do is the triptych club. Oh my goodness. Now this is our- You're so good at explaining this. It's our theater of the mind. Oh well, I'll stop you right there and I'll ask, can you explain it? You want me to explain? That'd be great.

Right now? Yeah, yeah, why not? Not 10 seconds ago, but now. No, and go. Go. It's the Hall of Fame, our clubhouse where we welcome and induct people that have been supporting the show on the shout-out level or Above for three consecutive years these people they've already been given a nickname or something a few years back But to enshrine them forever we welcome them in we put their name up on the the clubhouse board

You come in you can you can not leave but why would you want to? No you can't leave you're stuck You're not stuck you're you're allowed and not only allowed, but you are encouraged, not only encouraged. You have to stay. You're trapped. You are trapped. You're at peace. You're at peace. You go to heaven. Do you want to leave heaven? Yeah, that's weird. There's no exit in heaven

because no one wants to leave. This is heaven on earth. Exactly. In your mind. In our minds. And there's music, there's entertainment, there's food. Now Jess usually comes up with a food and cocktail based on this week, but Matt you've been having the honours the last couple of weeks. Yes.

So what was his name again? Moon. Moondine Joe. So we're serving Moonshine Joe we're calling it. Oh god, you're on fire. And yeah, I've been whipping it up in my bathtub and it tastes potent. Wow. Yeah, it'll knock your socks off in a good way.

And you know, when you want your socks off. Yeah, have a look at this. Not you've just put them on and you're like, oh great, I'm going to put them back on. Yeah, at a convenient time. Yeah, yeah, you're about to go to bed, your feet are hot. One of these scenarios. Exactly. I'll have a moonshine joke.

I love it. Now, I usually book a band One of these scenarios. Exactly. I'll have a moonshine Joe. Now I'll usually book a band. Yeah, who have you got? To play, and you're never going to believe this. This is actually a band that, before Jess went away, she's fine, she sent me a message saying hey I've just checked out this great new band from Perth. You should book them for the Trip Discord. Oh really?

I've actually reached out and I can't believe it, they've just got back to me just then saying, yeah we'll be there in a few minutes. This week we've got Bravo Inferno playing live. Holy shit. Oh that's great. Well I know Jess loves to celebrate milestone birthdays with them as a soundtrack. Exactly. So this way it works out really well. And I think listeners should look them up on their favoured streaming service or band camp or whatnot. Because, yeah, if you want to hear how Jess likes to party, tune in to Bravo Inferno. Bravo Inferno. And their first, their new single, which just came out in August, it's

called Scratch. Oh yeah. And they'll be playing that as well as the two songs that Jess added to her 30th playlist. They're the first three songs. And then there I said guys do we want okay? Maybe yeah exactly maybe cover a few weed hornets things songs exactly alright So we've got three inductees this week Dave the way it works is I'm on the door read out the name And Dave will do a bit of bit of wordplay to encourage you in the crowd will be cheering Dave's wordplay is is shit, but The crowd will all be cheering. Dave's wordplay is shit,

but I think it's on purpose, so it's okay. What? All right, are we ready? Yes. So three names, Dave, you ready to go? Here we go. You've already said yes. Here we go. From Sydney. Beautiful harbour city in New South Wales, Australia. It's Brendan Fallon. Whoa, move over the Tonight Show. It's Brendan Fallon Tonight. You know, Jimmy Fallon something like that? Yeah, he's Fallon Goodtimes. Yeah.

It is hard, isn't it? Yeah. From Omaha in Nebraska, I learned in Crossford recently, the most populous city in Nebraska in the United States, it's Aaron. Omaha-ha-ha-ha. It's the funniest person from Omaha, Aaron. And finally from Glen Huntley here in Melbourne, Victoria. It's a Jemiah Hemphill. This is a hemphill I'm willing to die on with you Jemiah.

Come on in. Welcome in Jemiah, Aaron and Brenna. Make yourselves at home. Oh, you are going to want to grab yourself a clay, is it a mug? What do you call those moonshine bottles? Oh yeah what are they called? They're jugs, something jug. Growler. Grab a growler, go the growl and come over and listen to the fine musical stylings of Alfa Romeo. Bravo Inferno. Alfa Romeo opening for them. That's the kind of car that sponsors the club this week.

Alfa Romeo. Sorry, I was confusing our sponsor with our musical act. Last week was Hyundai, but this week it's Bravo Inferno. Sorry, Alfa Romeo. Fucking hell, I was falling apart of you, Matt. Well that's the end of the episode, Dave. What do we need to tell people? Please follow us on social media, do go on pod, and also we've just put out

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