Do Go On - 486 - Murder in the Shadow of Disneyland

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

Disney, the most magical place on earth - but what lurks in the shadows? All sorts of stuff apparently! We're joined by Cameron James to hear all about it!This is a comedy/history podcast, the report ...begins at approximately 10:04 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).For all our important links: https://linktr.ee/dogoonpod Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:57 or wherever you get your podcasts. Acast helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcasts everywhere. Acast helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcasts everywhere. Acast.com. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnocky and as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hello. I'm the Jess Perkins of that introduction.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And? I'm the Matt Stewart. And it's so good to be here, so good to be alive. Geez, I can't wait to find out who that person is behind the curtain. Oh my goodness. Yeah. 2025 we've started a new thing. Whereas if we have a guest in, we put them behind a curtain.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Um, we don't know who they are and then we reveal them. I really hope they're a comedian or someone who's comfortable on a microphone. Yeah. We've relied on the third party to book the guests. We don't know who they've chosen. Yeah. They might've got desperate and just got someone off the street. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Oh boy. So let's find out now. Let's find out. Okay. I'm just being handed a card, Oscar style. I'm going to open it up. Would you please welcome to the show? Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:02:17 It's Cameron James. Oh my God. Oh, thank God it's me. What a relief. Thank God. I was so worried for a second. I was going to be someone who wasn't a comedian or comfortable on a microphone.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Yeah. And there are people who aren't comedians and are comfortable on a microphone and you don't want them on a podcast. Aka my dad. He's too comfortable. He's comfortable on a mic. Oh yeah. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:02:40 That's no good. That's no good. His boyfriend's name is Mike, I guess. Okay. That's really... No, his son. His son's name's Mike. That is true. Yeah, that's no good. That's no good. His boyfriend's name is Mike, I guess. Okay, that's really- No, his son. His son's name's Mike. That is true.
Starting point is 00:02:50 That is true, though. It is true, yes. That is true. His son's name is- Not his boy. Well, he's his boy, and I think they have a pretty good relationship. So tell me I'm wrong. There was a comment between boy and friend.
Starting point is 00:03:03 It's his boy, comma friend. I think we should start normalising the use of men calling their friends boyfriends. I agree. Yeah. Oh yeah, caught up with a couple of boyfriends at the pub last week. Love that. I'm sorry, I just got a text from my boyfriend. Hang on a second.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Just seeing how his vasectomy went. Yeah. I've seen this a lot you boys talk about. Botched. Oh, wow. Another one botched. We did not need a photo. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Oh, boy, that is tough to look at. It's like they took a little too much off. Butterfly to sausage. She's the ways. It'll grow back. It'll grow back. They do, right? Yeah. No, I like boyfriends. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:03:49 We should start saying that more often. Yeah. Cause it's like women my mom's age say girlfriends in a platonic way. Yep. Why not men? It's our turn. Why don't we get a cute little name for our buddies? I fully agree.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Um, yeah. Let's do it now. Anyway, that's great to have you in boyfriend. You too, boyfriend. And boy, and other boyfriend and girlfriend. I like it. Okay. Got the approval there.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Yeah, I like it. All right. I think you can pull this off. All right. I'm going to try it. I'm going to spend the next year doing it and, um, then I'll tally the results and I'll see if people think it's good or bad by the end.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And the results are just people's facial expressions. Either sort of be like, oh, or like a bit of a grimace. Okay. I'm into it. Yeah. Matt, do you want to explain how this show works? Yes, Cam, you've been on a bunch of times, but in case you forgot, no, the show works is one of the three of us, or in this case, four of us goes away.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Research is a topic. Anything from history could be anything at all recent or or the opposite of recent far history, so what you call it. Far history, yes. Far history. And then we bring back that knowledge in the form of like a high school report, maybe year 10 level. Cam often goes with with year 12 level.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah. And then, yeah, it tells it to the rest of the class, i.e. Dave, Jess, and I. And we sort of interrupt with dogshit riffs and we're annoying to new listeners, but those listeners hang around for long enough, they start to find us charming, and they enjoy the dogshit riffs after a while.
Starting point is 00:05:22 But a lot of people don't get through that barrier, but that's okay. It's a real Stockholm syndrome sort of style. Yes. Yes. This is good. I love that you just kind of explained the entire like parasocial relationship as well, which is lovely.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah. Not enough podcasts are talking about it. No, that's true. And we go a bit too hard on it, actually. Yeah, we probably need to knock it off a little bit. We talk too much. But Cam, you all doing the report this week? We always talk about it. No, that's true. We go, we go a bit too hard on it, actually. Yeah, we probably need to knock it off a little bit. We talk too much.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Ah, but Cam, you are doing the report this week. We always start the report with a question. Do you have a question for us today? Of course I do. I have a question and the question is as follows. He's writing a question right now. This is a Bible guy, which does not have a question. Yeah. No, I have a question, but... This is year 12 level now. This is a bible guy who does not have a question. No, I have a question but um.
Starting point is 00:06:06 This is year 12 level padding. This is incredible. This is a filibuster I would say. And the book that I read was... And I definitely read it. And um, and also I had a really hard week. Because everyone in my family died.
Starting point is 00:06:22 So, it's been a pretty hectic week. Repeating the question is the best thing of a high school essay. What is? It's a real meeting. Yeah. My question for all of you is, do you have a favorite town? Ooh. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Let's hear it. Go around the horn. Oh, yes. Let's hear it. Go around the horn. I love Bright, Victoria, a little riverside alpine area town. You get all four seasons up there. Snow on the Alps, the beautiful, they're doing all four of this. This the swim swim in the river in the summertime and the spring is is there as well.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I don't know what is lay in a field of flowers. River in the summertime and the spring is there as well. I don't know what is. Lay in a field of flowers. You see little birds and fresh flowers. Yeah, bright, hot tip. But it's too expensive. I can't afford to go there anymore, but it was great. It's great in my childhood anyway. Everyone else has covered how good it is.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Like it is now overcrowded, to be honest. Yeah. Hang on a second. I said favourite town. I've honest. Uh, if yeah. Hang on a second. I said favorite town. Don't. I've started hot and really. Yeah. Well, I'm 180 on bright. Hopefully.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yeah. I realized that I'm like, I don't want more people going there. Jeez. It sucks. The little birds are awful. Yeah. There's too many of them. Too many.
Starting point is 00:07:41 It's overcrowded with little birds. And the flowers are fugly and they stink. And everyone's racist. Yeah. flowers are fugly and they stink. And everyone's racist. Yeah. Oh, it's bad up there. What else? Who else have we got? We got any other favorite towns in the house tonight?
Starting point is 00:07:53 I'm probably going to say... Don't do crowd work with us. You there. Why are you looking? You're covering your eyes so you can see out into the crowd. Who else is out there? Do I see another hand over there? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:08:06 What's your name, mate? What are you doing? Hi there. I'm Dave. I'm a podcaster and my favourite town is probably, one comes to mind on the Great Ocean Road, Wye River. Oh yeah. Lovely spot.
Starting point is 00:08:17 My friend Tom had a family beach house that we spent many a summer down there. I just have maybe like you, Matt, fantastic memories of it. It's a small place. There's one pub. There's one general store, but there's lots of good times. Wow. Wow. And do you want to try and turn people away from it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:33 You think some negative things about it now. But it is overcrowded and there has been a gas leak. So I wouldn't go there. Sometimes bushfires get close. It's true. To the Great Ocean Road. So I'd stay away. But speaking of Great Ocean Road, that's where my favorite town also is. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And same thing of like my grandparents had a beach house in Apollo Bay and we would go there my entire life. So just a lot of nice memories. But to dissuade people, chatting to my parents recently, they said that most of the shops are closed now. You can't even do shopping. You can't. It's like all the shops along the main strip, most of them are closed.
Starting point is 00:09:08 You can't even get an ice cream anymore. What's the point? Yeah. And no retail therapy. Yeah. The top pub's not as good anymore. Oh, yeah. Middle pub's still good, but the top pub's not as good. So, you know, don't go.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You guys have recently like been around the world, yet you all chose incredibly local places. Yeah. I think we all went very nostalgic, I think. Yeah. If you're not going nostalgia, it's like Dublin or New York for me, I think. Oh yeah. It'd be great if you all three said New York City. My favorite town, New York City.
Starting point is 00:09:37 My favorite small town. Ooh, probably. Oh, the five boroughs. Yeah. Can't split them. Little, little known town. Ever heard of New York? NYC.
Starting point is 00:09:49 The Big Apple. I mean, Cam, are we allowed to turn the question back on you or is that where you're going with your favourite town? Is this a report on your favourite town? I'm going to give a report on a town that I've never been to, but the idea of it is my favourite town in the world, if that makes sense. Yeah. But if I had to pick a favourite town, I'd probably say New York City.
Starting point is 00:10:10 That's just if I'm put on the spot, I'd probably say that. But I'd also say, don't go there, guys. It's fucking, the birds suck. Yeah. And the- Times Square is actually like, it's overwhelming. Yeah. How do they go for seasons?
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah, all the shops are closed. Do they get the seasons over there? They do all four. Yeah, wow. I thought that was Bratt's thing. I'm like Bratt, Victoria. It's sort of like the Bratt of America. Yeah, I've heard that. I want to read to you, if I may, the from the brochure of this town that I'm going to tell you about today.
Starting point is 00:10:48 This is a, this is a quote from the sales brochure for a soon to be developed residential town. You're hitting bro hard. Bro sure. Well, it's not a sister. Sure. So the boys. Let me read, let me read and tell me if this sounds appealing to you. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:09 This is from the sales brochure when they were beginning to, um, whatever, sell plots of land or whatever for this town. Okay. There once was a place where neighbors greeted neighbors in the quiet of summer twilight, where children chased fireflies and porch swings provided easy refuge from the cares of the day. The movie house showed cartoons on a Sunday, the grocery store delivered. Remember that place? Perhaps from your childhood, or maybe just from stories, it held a magic all of its own, the special magic of an American
Starting point is 00:11:48 hometown. Welcome to Celebration, Florida. The town is called Celebration. First of all, what do you guys think of that as a sales pitch? Would that work on you? No, I don't want my children chasing fireflies. I want them inside playing the Nintendo switches Deliver I want a dominoes to deliver Modern times, you know like the olden times This place was a little too focused on just one season the summer what happened to the winner to the spring to the order? That's true who focus on just one season, the summer. What happened to the winter? Does it spring to the autumn? Or the fall? That's true.
Starting point is 00:12:26 The implications are mainly, yeah, that's, chasing fireflies, I guess that's a summer thing, isn't it? Yeah, and your neighbors only greet you at twilight in summer. Yeah. Yeah, you're right, I did say summer twilight. Nine months of the year, we're all just pretending the others don't exist.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yeah. That's rude. Celebration. That's actually That sounds like a nightmare, celebrating 365 days a year. Ex. Yeah. That's rude. Celebration. That sounds like a nightmare celebrating 365 days a year. Exhausting. Have any of you heard of this town at all? No. No, I thought both of you had gone negative. I'm in. I love it. All right. Thank you. I love the sound of it. The porch swing especially was... I love the swing. Like a hammock? No, man. Like a hard, you know, like a hard wooden seat that's attached to chains. I'm happy with that.
Starting point is 00:13:06 That's attached to the roof. Yeah, I think the problem with this is they're trying to- God, he went and described his wings. Yeah, but he needed it. That's the sad thing. They're trying to get us feeling nostalgic about our childhoods in America, which we didn't have, of course. So-
Starting point is 00:13:22 No, that's true. That's why we're probably not the key demo for this, but I'm in. Yeah, like you said, like when the birds were small, when the shops were actually open. You started making me think for a second that you were describing Gary, Indiana. And I'm like, oh, my God, have we finally going to do an episode on Gary? But celebration sound that might be my new second favorite.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Is Gary, Indiana where the Jacksons are from? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, no, we're not going there. We're not going there, folks. We're going to Florida.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I'll tell you a little bit about Celebration Florida. Celebration is a town that still exists to this day. It's in Florida, USA, believe it or not. And it's like the classic American small town that you are picturing, probably like the type of thing you see in old movies and shit. Mom and pop stores, white picket fences, tire swings hanging from oak trees. Like if you picture the town square from Back to the Future or It's a Wonderful Life or something like that.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Matt is going to need you to explain what a tire swing is though. So it's like a rubber tire hanging from a rope, which is hanging from a branch, which is growing from a tree. Okay. Yeah. You're like a rubber hammock. Yeah. Put it in terms I understand, hammock terms.
Starting point is 00:14:39 It's like a really round hammock. Okay. Round rubbery hammock. Gotcha. Celebration Florida is the perfect image of small town 1950s Americana. The only odd thing about it though, and believe it or not, there is a twist coming, is that this town was built entirely from scratch in the year 1996 by a company that you may have heard of called the Walt Disney Company. Oh, that's a theme park.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Not quite. It's um, it's a, it's a town like Walt Disney, the guy, uh, who you may have heard of as being like the, the man that the company's named after. His name is not a coincidence. No, he's like a human hammock. I'm trying to describe, like an icy hammock these days. Yeah. Nowadays he's like an icy hammock.
Starting point is 00:15:39 A frozen hammock. For summer days. Yeah. The back of the day, he was like a flesh and blood hammock. Right summer days. Yeah. But back in the day he was like a flesh and blood hammock. Right, right, right. This is a horrible riff. Yeah. And we're stuck in it now.
Starting point is 00:15:53 We can't get out like a hammock. I think you might have completed it. We just clipped that riff. I think that might be it. Yeah, that might be it. That might be it. Um, he was obsessed with, like, obviously he made cartoons. You guys have heard of Mickey Mouse.
Starting point is 00:16:07 You've heard of Donald the duck, okay. Donald duck and goofy. Who's not a dog technically and many other cartoons that he invented, but he also, as you mentioned, he made theme parks and, um, films and all sorts of stuff. and, um, films and all sorts of stuff. But his big obsession from way back in the fifties and sixties was not just to create entertainment. It was to create the perfect utopian society, which is one of my favorite things about Walt that he's like a cartoonist who made like,
Starting point is 00:16:41 I don't know how you should live. It's a funny little drawing. Yeah. He made a couple of like, um, like, um, like, um, like, um, like, um, like a cartoonist who made like- I like how you should live. Here's a funny little drawing. Yeah, he made a couple of like little mouse drawings and then was like, you know what? Let's change the entire world based on the way I see it.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Have you guys- Was that childhood or what was that? What's the 50s to him? Like normally people, you know, it's like people think the music was the best when they were 18. Is it like that? Was he 18 in the fifties? And that's when he thought the world was perfect? He was nearly dead by then.
Starting point is 00:17:16 He died in 67 or 68. He was nostalgic for like the present almost. For then, he's nostalgic in the moment. That's what he grew up in. Like the first Mickey cartoon was 1928 or something like that. So he's he's an old man. I should not. I've literally done a report on Disneyland. I would have said his date of birth.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I knew. Yeah, you've definitely said. I was still genuinely asking that question. Yeah. I also. He was. He was like a futurist. I don't know how to describe it. Yeah, you've definitely said it. I was still genuinely asking that question. Yeah. He was like a futurist. I don't know how to describe it. So he's one of those guys that as technology is becoming like breaking through and is very cutting edge and present, he's right there with it. He'd love AI probably. He'd be like, it's the fucking, it's everything.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Let's make everything with AI. And back then in the 50s and 60s, any new technology he was obsessed with and thought this is the answer. But at the same time, he's a big nostalgic as well. So that's kind of what's interesting. I think we've heard before on this show, maybe it was your report or we've had Zach Ruane come on and talk about one of the Disney parks. Yeah. At Disney World, there's like a- there was, like in the 60s, what- this is what the
Starting point is 00:18:26 Future will look like kind of ride. Yeah, Futureland or no, Tomorrowland. They've got Tomorrowland and they have a ride in there called the World of Tomorrow, which is, I mean, it's so dated now, but that's what's so cool about it. It's like the 60s version of the Future where it's all a bit Jetsons-y and a bit like space racy and shit. And it's like, we'll all live in like bubbled communities and stuff like that. And it's kind of like what the Back to the Future 2 was doing where it's like
Starting point is 00:18:53 microwavable meals that are really small and then they become really big and shit like that. That's coming, man. 3D printed pizzas. So this is kind of what his vision for this town was. It was like, and he'd been wanting to do this for a long time. A kind of a world of both tomorrow and yesterday at the same time. Would you say Cam that your man, Elon sort of the new Walt Disney?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Why is he my man? Why do you? Oh, sorry, is that on the off pod? He has a big Elon head. I love him. I love Elon. Yeah. You know what? It's like, it's we, we probably shouldn't compare Walt Disney with Elon Musk, but they're so fucking similar. Like the psycho, psycho billionaires. Walt Disney also anti-Semitic? I mean, maybe. Allegedly.
Starting point is 00:19:46 You know what? I'm wondering, cause we also, sorry to keep, I mean, like Walt himself, I'm getting very nostalgic, but we also did an episode once I told the story of Henry Ford building a utopian city. Fordlandia. Fordlandia. So I'm hoping this is a disaster, but it can't possibly be as bad as that was because this isn't being built in the Amazon.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah. Fordlandia was nuts. I remember that episode. That's insanity. Um, this doesn't go quite the plan, but maybe it's not Fordlandia bad, but it's still pretty good. Because Florida is a toughish climate, I imagine, to build an ideal city in. Exactly. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:20:31 But it was it was it's like a tropical climate where there's alligators every like two meters and shit. But but it was cheap land. I'll get to that. It was very cheap land for him to get. So this is like his dream. His dream was to basically rebuild his childhood town. But it kind of takes a lot of twists and turns because as I mentioned, he's a futurist or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:57 But anyway, this all began in the 1950s. It ends up existing in 1996, 14 years after the town is founded. So what's 14 years after 96? Anyone good at maths there? Dave. 2010. 2010. This is 2010.
Starting point is 00:21:14 2010. All right. By 2010. I actually think Dave's a bit upset that Matt got there at the same time. No, I think we were both waiting for Cam to be- we thought it was on a bit. Because it was quite an easy sum. No, I just- quite an easy slalom. No, I just... I'm dumb.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I was definitely holding back. We were both like... 2010, Cam, it's 2010! No, I'm just stupid, sorry. By 2010, the town of Celebration had gone from utopian paradise to a broken down den of sex parties, lawsuits and violent murder. Oh, here we go. And he's become a murderer.
Starting point is 00:22:01 This is not what Walt wanted? No, it's actually quite, it's quite different to what, to what he wanted. But, uh, but this is kind of what I love about this. Sex hammocks. Okay. All right. I'm back in. Is that a thing?
Starting point is 00:22:17 Sex swings. Sex swings, definitely. Yeah. Sex swings are definitely a thing. Sex hammocks would be, they'd be a nightmare. I can't quite. Sounds dangerous. Where are you?
Starting point is 00:22:27 I've lost her. Sounds dangerous, doesn't it? And that's part of what's fun. That's why they're going to be a big hit. Um, I know you guys have done episodes on Disneyland. Have any of you guys been to Disneyland? No. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yes. I was speaking for all of us, no. Two out of three. And what are your thoughts? Um, well, we went to Disneyland when I was speaking for all of us, no. Two out of three. And what are your thoughts? Um, well, we went to Disneyland when I was eight years old and I feel like that's like perfect time of life to go. I also went to Disneyland in Paris in my early twenties. Still good.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Now I'm not interested anymore. You wouldn't go. Whoa, shit. Dave, when did you go? Uh, also when I was eight years old, so a similar time to Jess, but I don't know if our families ever crossed over. We assumed so. But I'd still be keen to go again.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I'd be keen to go to this celebration town, based on what Cam was just saying. Based on the sex hammocks I'm hearing about. Why, now that's the more thing about the murder. That'd be fun to try out, so that's something you can do there, you pay your fee. Yeah, it's like Westworld. You can kill anyone who lives there and it's legal. I wouldn't describe myself as a Disney adult, but I've gone to all but one of the Disneyland theme parks in the last like six years.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Which one's missing? Hong Kong, I think. Is it, is that the one? Is it, it's not in Hong Kong. Where's the Disneyland? I've been to Tokyo. I thought maybe it was Hong Kong. I've been to California, I've been to Paris,
Starting point is 00:23:59 I've been to Disney World. Hong Kong I haven't been to. Yeah, nice. Yes, that's the one I would go to. And I love them. I fucking love Disneyland. I love't been to. Yeah, nice. Yes, that's the one I would go to. And I love them. I fucking love Disneyland. I love Disney as well. I like, I'm not, I don't watch all the movies and stuff, but all the ones from
Starting point is 00:24:13 our childhood, I still have a lot of love for and can pop them on all the ones from before our childhood I can watch anytime. I fucking love Mary Poppins. I watched that recently and I was like, this is sick. They need to make one of these every year. It needs to be a Poppins universe. These are so good. They could have done a few of it though.
Starting point is 00:24:34 They did one about the author. They did a new one. Oh man, I've seen that. Don't you worry. I've seen them all. I also love the Peter Pan shit. Actually I had this, my wife was making fun of me when we were in Disneyland Tokyo, cause I was obsessed with the Peter Pan ride, which is for kids for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:54 But I was like, it's just magical. And my wife was like, you have the same pop culture taste as Michael Jackson. Diana Ross and the Supremes and Peter Pan. And this is not a good sign. Such a good bird. So funny. I was like, Jesus Christ. Isn't that the most app thing for a boy who's never grown up to like Peter Pan?
Starting point is 00:25:24 It's just like, I get emotional when I think about Peter Pan at the end of the cartoon, Peter Pan, when they the family are reunited back in London and they're looking out the window at the pirate ship flying away into the sky towards Neverland and the father says to his children, I remember seeing something like that when I was a young boy and the implication is that every child gets to go to Neverland when they're young but they forget about it when they get older. I'm fucking tearing up now thinking about it. It's like the idea of like innocence being lost and all that shit and growing up. Oh fuck I love it and that's kind of why I love Disneyland, because it's like purely made for to tap into the joy and the imagination that you had when you were a child and that you are forced to lose as you get older.
Starting point is 00:26:11 But what, but isn't it also, I've never really thought about it, but that, that implies the, that Peter Pan has that immortal's curse. He sees people get old and die generation after generation. Yeah, man. It's a tragedy. That's kind of what that's another reason I love it is the melancholy underneath it is like this is so fucking sad and and it's like the darkness and the light are the things I love about Disney and Disneyland are kind of I like the bright, shiny, happy shit and
Starting point is 00:26:44 the fairy dust and all that stuff But I also love that underneath all of that. It's quite a fucking sinister organization and that maybe Walt's anti-semitic and maybe his head is frozen on a block of ice somewhere in Florida and There's all these weird lawsuits and they've stolen intellectual property. And then there's all those rumors. I remember Zach was talking about it on that Disneyland episode about like, um, tunnels underneath Disneyland and all these little rules, like no one, no one
Starting point is 00:27:15 ever dies on a Disneyland property. They, if someone is dying, they immediately take them outside the gates so that they die outside of Disneyland rather than on Disney. Gotta keep the streak. Quick throw over the fence. It's not so big to hit the ground. I swear.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Wheelbarrowing him over the boundary. That's kind of what I love about it. And that's what I love about this place celebration that I'm going to tell you about because to me that's America it's like Incredibly optimistic and bright and hopeful but at the same time on the other flip side of the coin It's fucking gross and dark Terrifying and um, and that's that's kind of what I want to get into today It's like the hubris of Walt the hubris of a man who made a few
Starting point is 00:28:05 cartoons and thought he could build a utopian society. So today I'm going to tell you about what happened in the shadow of Disneyland. What do you think of that as a title? Love it. Love it. Love it. Yes. That's really good.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I just- Really good. You know, you were crying at the end of Peter Pan, but I was like, feeling something there. Yeah. You're boiling. You're jibbling. Yeah. I'm like good. You know, you were crying at the end of Peter Pan, but I was like, feeling something there. Yeah. You're boiling. You're boiling. Yeah. I'm like boiling your eyes out.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Dave's crying. I'm so scared. I just want to quickly say as well that like, I love the magic of Disneyland and I love like the shows and then how they do things. I'm just not a big theme park person because I get motion sickness. I went on one ride at Dollywood and it was a bit much for me. Okay. Oh no. So that's my big fear is that that'll happen to me one day.
Starting point is 00:28:50 But I hope it never does, because I'm a coast ahead from way back. Oh, I love it. Yeah, I went on the the Luna Park. Well, the scenic railway. Scenic railway. Last year. That'll make your tummy drop. That was that's great fun. I mean, because it's, you know, it's rickety. Yeah. And you know, those drop. That was, that's great fun. I mean, because it's, you know, it's rickety. Yeah. And you know, those ones where you're like, this could crash. Yeah. That gives an extra element because the dips aren't so big, but
Starting point is 00:29:14 I'm so jealous. I'd love to go on every roller coaster, but who, I just never think to do it. I'm never like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to plan ahead to, in a couple of months, we're going to take a trip to go on a rollercoaster. It's just not the way my brain works. Unfortunately, that's not the only thing you're doing. It's not like you're planning a trip just to go on a rollercoaster. I really think that we should next time we do a Brisbane live show have the day before. Three parts, super parts.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Three parts, super parts. You should definitely do that. You really should. And Jess? I'll hold the bags. Which is what my mum always did. Yeah, I'll hold the spew bags for myself and your backpacks and I'll just eat fairy floss. I'll be good.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Do you eat a lot of fairy floss normally? Because that might be part of it. That couldn't possibly be it. I think it might be part of it. Just hearing it now, you know, like a non-biased person, I think that's part of it. But anyway, that's just my two cents. I don't think that's true, guys. Judge Cam is in session.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Judge Cam is in session? That's not what they say is it? Court is in session. Cam's court is in session. There it is. AJ had it all of that out. Oh my God, Cam's court. Can I pitch that as a segment on this show?
Starting point is 00:30:24 Weekly segment? We have a disagreement, we just crossed the- Order. Alright, let me tell, let me begin my report. Alright, so I've talked a little bit about Walt already and how he was kind of, you know, an animation superstar. He'd won multiple Oscars by the mid-60s. He created the theme parks.
Starting point is 00:30:43 He was dominating TV at two TV shows, the wonderful world of Disney and the Mickey Mouse Club, which had begun in the fifties. Um, so naturally of course, Walt set his sights on a brand new goal, which was rebuilding the world in his image. It always been really into industry and futurism, which I talked about earlier, cutting edge technology. And you can kind of see that in the parks, you know, there's animatronics for a thing that they kind of, um, like pushed, you know, and made,
Starting point is 00:31:13 maybe like made better by their use in the parks. Um, the ride technology is the same, but by the sixties, futurism was a full on total obsession with him beyond the parks, beyond the cartoons. And he got really into this real mid century idea of urban planning. So, which is so weird, like, like for a fucking cartoonist guy to be all of a sudden be like, you know what architecture and planning streets and shit. That's the next step for me. I guess once you've won like 10 Oscars, what else is there to do?
Starting point is 00:31:46 He did it. Maybe you got a taste for it with the theme parks as well, because isn't that like there's like American Boulevard or whatever? Totally. USA way. Main Street, USA or whatever. And like, yeah, totally. And planning those parks is probably his gateway into being like, what if I could do this with the rest of America? It's like John playing Sim City and being like, you know what could do this with the rest of America?
Starting point is 00:32:05 It's like John playing Sim City and being like, you know what? I'm pretty good at this. Yeah. Shit. I mean, I had probably had that exact same thought when I was playing the Sims as a kid, like, man, maybe I could be an architect. I'll just build heaps of houses with no doors and buy places all around every wall. As you know, wanting to be an architect, you want to be a serial killer. Yeah, I want to murder people. Oh As you know, what do you mean architect?
Starting point is 00:32:25 You want to be a serial killer? Yeah, I want to murder people. You know where you should go. I know a town. This is probably like, you know, around the mid fifties or whatever is when he gets obsessed with urban planning and starts getting involved with, um, like California council and stuff like that and starting to plan new and better ways that they could redesign the city.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I guess this is after World War II, the suburbs are starting to blow up as a desirable place for people to live. After the war, I think a lot of people don't really wanna live in the city anymore. Families are moving between the country and the city. Suburbs emerge. Walt gets obsessed with the idea of the suburbs and also he's getting older.
Starting point is 00:33:13 So he's reflecting on his perfect hometown where he grew up and he comes up with this idea for a master planned town, a place that he calls a community of tomorrow, a kind of new American city that's going to blend the sort of space race, futurism, technology heavy stuff that he loves with the nostalgia he has for his own hometown. He made a film that he then gave out to potential investors. It's called the experimental prototype community of tomorrow, AKA Epcot. And, um, yeah, they use it. They use that word in other Disney parks now and stuff, but this is the first time he's used the word Epcot.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And the idea of this film was to attract investors into his plan and to like give him some cash to make this community of tomorrow. The film is up on YouTube. If anyone wants to watch it, you can see Walt's entire vision for the town, including like very detailed animations and blueprints. All right. So but like, is it like a Disney style animation? Like Mickey Mouse is like, hi, welcome to the future.
Starting point is 00:34:26 There's like, uh, Tinkerbell, Tinkerbell's in it. And she like, he's, it starts with Walt in his office and he's like, oh, hello there. I'm Walt Disney. You might've heard of me. Like he's doing this Troy McClure shit. And then Disney, uh, Tinkerbell flies in and he has a little chat with her. This is like an animated Tinkerbell. And then she sprinkles fairy dust. Yeah, Cam.
Starting point is 00:34:49 It's not the real Tinkerbell. They couldn't get her. And then it goes into these animations that show his like visions for the town. I can tell you a bit about his visions for the community of tomorrow. If you would like to hear it right now. Sure. Um, number one, tell me how you feel about this. Yeah, no roads. There are no roads in the community of tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:35:14 That sounds, that sounds good. So he's, he's just, it's all public transport. Pretty much. That sounds like that's great. There's one from one fields of grass everywhere, parkland that connects everything. There are no roads on the surface of the town. Ah. But there are an underground network of tunnels.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Cam, where we're going, will we need roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads on the surface. But we need tunnels. Hundreds we're going, we don't need roads on the surface. But we need tunnels. Hundreds of miles of interconnected tunnels. We do need lots of interconnected tunnels that connect everyone's house to the city, but also out of town so people can leave for weekend trips and stuff like that. But no roads on the surface. They've got to, what, put on their mining gear.
Starting point is 00:36:03 A picture of like with a headlamp on, crawling through tunnels. That's great, you can get anywhere. They're like car- they're like road sized tunnels, like you can drive under there, you're not crawling, crawling through earth. We're just crawling down the peninsula for the weekend. It'll be gorgeous. Disney says in the video, in this town, the pedestrian is king, which I like. I like it. Okay, yes, interconnected tunnels underneath.
Starting point is 00:36:33 There's also, and this is mainly for Jess, who is worried about the shops being closed or not getting to the shops. What about the shops? If you do need to get to the shops, don't worry. There is an elaborate monorail system that crisscrosses the entire town. Because I have to get to the shops, don't worry. There is an elaborate monorail system that crisscrosses the entire town. Cause I have to get to the shops. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:49 That's all taken care of. You've got to get to the shops. Okay. I'm on board. I didn't like the tunnels and the no roads, but as long as the shops are open and I can get to the shops. Yeah. You can just get on, pop on the monorail.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Yeah. Get to the shops. And you can also get to your place of work, which will be in the center of town. The entire city is designed like a wheel with all the housing on the outside. And the CBD is in the very middle, but in separating those two is a place called the green belt, which is, um, parkland and leisure activities, lakes and a sports sports field, et cetera. Sounds a bit like Adelaide.
Starting point is 00:37:26 It's designed a lot like Adelaide and Canberra, probably a master plan city. And the wheel cam, can I just double check? Does it rotate? No, it is fixed. It's like a Bay of Marie city sort of thing. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's fixed. Did you say Bay of Marie city? Yeah, what's a Bay of Marie?
Starting point is 00:37:43 Like a Lazy Susan city? Lazy Susan city. Bay of Susan, that's what I meant. Bay Marie, that's the thing that keeps Timson's hot. Bay Marie, you're constantly baking in heat. You're slowly crisping up. Why would I have got those two words? The words don't sound similar, but the two things are not at all similar. I think it's because you were trying to sound fancy.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You were trying to sound smart and fancy. So you went for Bain Marie instead of Lazy Susan. I don't ever think I said, I don't even know what the word is. I said Bayer Marie, which isn't even, you're saying it's Bain Marie? I didn't even, well. My grandfather served in the Bay of Marie. We lost a lot of good men to that buffet. So, Cam, is this a city like a Bay of Marie, mate? Sorry to stop, sorry to butt in here, I've got a really good question.
Starting point is 00:38:37 So, well, actually, here we go. That's a perfect way for me to lead to the CBD, which is, which has a big food district. Does the B tent for? The food district will feature food from every part of the world. In fact, every, each little area of the CBD is designed to look like a different country, like a different part of the world. So you have your Europe section and like your Egypt section and all that shit, with all different restaurants that cater to that. So far,
Starting point is 00:39:10 this obviously sounds amazing. This sounds awesome. I'm keen. Just knowing that he might be a little bit of a bigot, like him segregating parts of the city does feel potential. Like, it depends not knowing what he's trying to do there. Also, I got a bit nervous before when you said he had a master plan. I don't want to lead you towards fascism. Okay. But I will tell you the next few details of the community of tomorrow. And if you want to draw your own comparisons, feel free. No one living in Epcot would own their own land or home. You rent from the Disney organization.
Starting point is 00:39:38 And as a result, you get a lot of money. And you get a lot of money. And you get a lot of money. And you get a lot of money. And you get a lot of money. And you get a lot of money. And you get a lot of money. And you get a lot of money. And you get a lot of money. And you get a lot of money. comparisons for free. No one living in Epcot would own their own land or home. You rent from the Disney organisation and as a result of being a renter, you have no municipal voting rights.
Starting point is 00:39:54 OK. You don't get to vote who is in charge. Also, because you have no voting rights, the Disney corporation have access to your home anytime they want in order to update the technology in your house. Because the technology will be moving rapid fast. That's actually one of the best things about being a renter is like when something breaks down in my house, I just like tell the property manager. So it'd be great to be like, they just come in and replace my TV, the new TV in the middle
Starting point is 00:40:30 of the night. They kick down the door at 3am, pop your water bed that you're sleeping on and say, no, we've decided there's a better bed. And I'd say, thank you so much. And the good thing is Jess, you wouldn't even have to tell them because they'll be watching, I have a feeling. Yeah. Jess, you wouldn't even have to tell them because they'll be watching. I have a feeling. Yeah, they do. They do. How they do say in the video that there will be, um, like speaker systems in every
Starting point is 00:40:50 home so that they can communicate with you. It's a, yeah, this is awesome. Yeah. What's that author that Dave likes? Uh, 1984. Not only for that author that Dave likes? They all have a TV and speakers just in their room where the government can talk to them. I forget if it's Orson Welles, H.D. Welles or the other Wells Fargo, whatever the other
Starting point is 00:41:17 Wells one is. Which one is it? George Orwell. George Orwell. It wasn't one of the- There's a Wellman. The other one I mentioned, yeah. There's a Wellman. There's a Wellman. I had also already said George Orwell. George Orwell. It wasn't one of the- There's a way.... that I mentioned, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:25 There's a way. There's a way. I had also already said George Orwell. Oh, well, sorry. I don't- Listen to women. I don't listen to women. Oh, well.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Sorry. Oh, well. Oh, well. Is it, is that a thing in America that renters don't get to vote? It feels like it was on first. In Florida, renters don't get to vote. Is that true? That's wild.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I mean, I don't know if that's true now, but at least it was something recently. So if you live in Epcot, okay, here's some good news. Every adult living in Epcot will be employed by the Disney Corporation. You do what we tell you to do. Thereby preventing the formation of slums and ghettos. That's official language. And unions, I reckon. And unions probably.
Starting point is 00:42:07 No retirees. If you retire, you're kicked out. Everyone has to have a job. That's anti-Florida, isn't it? Everyone retires in Florida. Yeah. Well, not here. You'll either work at the Magic Kingdom theme park or the central shopping district or the
Starting point is 00:42:25 hotel convention center, the airport, the welcome center, or an industrial park, which I assume is like building fucking roller coasters and shit. Um, um, as Disney says in the movie, everyone living in Epcot will have the responsibility to maintain this living blueprint of the future. So yeah, he's, he has this vision for a world where we're all working together, kind of in a socialist way. It feels like they're just performing a little play. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Yeah. And it becomes more like that too, the longer, I mean, you know, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. I'll give you one more detail. Truman show sort of thing. Yeah. Totally. Totally.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I'll give you one more detail about A bit like Truman Show sort of thing. Yeah. Totally, totally. I'll give you one more detail about the, about Epcot and you can tell me if this like seals the deal for how you feel about this place, whether you would buy property or sorry, rent property from there, whether you'd like to live there. And I'll read directly from a transcript from the video. This entire 50 acres of city streets and buildings will be completely enclosed in this climate controlled environment. There's a dome. Shoppers, theatregoers and people just out for a stroll will enjoy ideal weather conditions protected day and night from rain, heat, cold and humidity. So, what we're saying for a summer all year round.
Starting point is 00:43:45 It's a dome. It's a dome city. It's actually a- Spider dome. Sick. This, uh, this, this sounds a little insane, Cam. You're not into it? Is water okay?
Starting point is 00:43:57 Why aren't you into it? I actually do kind of like that bit. Yeah, living in a dome. I like the idea of a dome. Nice weather every day. I don't think I would want to live there, but I like the idea of a dome. I like the idea of a dome. I like the idea of a dome. I like the idea of a dome.. Yeah, living in a dome. I like the idea of a domed-
Starting point is 00:44:05 Nice weather every day. Yeah. I don't think I would want to live there, but I like the idea of a domed town you can like visit or a domed area. Yeah. Like if there was just like a domed area that we could all go to and it was fun and you go shopping and fucking eat from everywhere in the world. Fantastic. Are you describing one of like many Middle Eastern cities where it's so hot
Starting point is 00:44:31 outside that everything is indoors and like... I'm also just, I've realised I'm just describing like a shopping centre. Yeah, you're describing it indoors. Yeah, that's right. I just, I want to go somewhere where I could, I don't know, there'd be like some sort of food area that has like a variety of different cuisines. And it's undercover. But I could also see a movie if I wanted to.
Starting point is 00:44:52 What sort of shape would you put the food in? Would it be circular? Like a cul-de-sac or a court sort of enclosed? Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Court's an interesting word. Yeah, a cave's court. Hey, that's what you could do there. I'd like to be protected from rain and have a good time. Interesting word. Can't score. Can't score. Order. Hey, that's what you could do there.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah, you can order. I'd like to be protected from rain and have any kind of shop I might like, but maybe, yeah, maybe I could see a movie or play some laser tag or something. Or go to like a super hay or something like that. Is it blue sky? Like is it clear, the dome? How do they, how do they make that work? Did he figure that technology out or is he like hoping they could figure that out?
Starting point is 00:45:28 They didn't figure it out. In the animations, it's a bubble, like it's exactly what you're picturing, just a glass bubble over this entire town. But then in the drawings and the blueprints, it looks more like a ceiling, which is even creepier, like a kind of flat roof over the entire town, which is gross. Like you want it to be a bubble. You don't want a flat fucking ceiling. You don't want it to be like a casino with the sky painted on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:57 You don't end up really sick from no natural light. Yeah, true. And no, just no, like, elements at all. Yeah. Like living in air conditioning all the time. Everyone's got a dry throat. Yeah. So it never came to be, obviously. Walt died not long after this film was made to try and attract investors.
Starting point is 00:46:16 He was diagnosed with cancer not long after the, not long after they shot the film, then it came out and then a couple of years later he passed away. But he was very serious about it. He was so serious that he bought a plot of land in Florida that is twice the size of Manhattan. Whoa. So it's like a hundred square kilometers or thereabouts to house his Epcot project. He didn't want to draw attention to the, I love this, this is part of the sinister shit
Starting point is 00:46:45 that I love. He didn't want to draw attention to the fact that the Disney company was buying this much land and he also knew that if people knew Disney was buying the land, they would charge more probably. So he created like 20 shell organizations with fake names to get the land piece by piece over a period of like five years at the cheapest rates possible just buying from farmers and families and stuff like that. There's a big list of all the names on Wikipedia they have names like Compass East Corporation and the Reedy Creek
Starting point is 00:47:22 Ranch Corporation, Bay Lake Properties, there's a whole list of them. And almost like rubbing salt in the worms, all those names of fake companies are now the names of fake businesses in the Disneyland Main Street America theme parks. Like when you walk down Main Street, USA Street, all the businesses are called like Compass East Ice Cream and whatever shit like that. Oh my god. They're just like rubbing it in. Like look at you, you fucking idiots.
Starting point is 00:47:53 You sold us your land. We stole your land milk bar. Yeah, exactly. So they bought all this land like over a period of years sneakily and then once they had got all of it They consolidated all the shell companies into one company called the Reedy Creek Improvement District Board Who act as basically a dictatorship over this entire? Region of Florida and anyone who still lives there anyone who didn't sell their land to Disney They now live basically
Starting point is 00:48:25 under the ruling of the Disney corporation. They run the council, the fire department, the police, the hospitals, waste management. You pay your taxes to Disney if you live in this area, which is just insane. It's a privately owned almost state. It's bigger than New York, which is, you know, my favourite town. It's quite big. Your favourite town. It's quite, yeah. We all went for quite small quiet towns.
Starting point is 00:48:54 You went for quite a big town. Yeah. It's just twice as big as my, my favourite town, New York city. So Disney is like the government of this part of Florida. And much like the Epcot plan, if you live there, you don't own your home. You rent it from Disney. And as I mentioned earlier, if you're a renter in Florida, you don't get voting rights. So pretty much anyone who lives there just lives under this like Mickey Mouse dictatorship.
Starting point is 00:49:26 The people that do live there and there are very few now call it like the Mickey Mouse Vatican basically. Like it's just you live in your own private state. Wow. You get no say. Let me see what else I've got on this. This is so surreal. It's even weirder, man. So there's like, um, there's all these weird loopholes that Disney exploited in order to do this and in order to exist as a like small government in this part of Florida. Because you can't just like be a dictatorship. It's not like a sovereign state or whatever. You still need to be voted in. You still need to have your council or your whatever voted in by the public. So if you look
Starting point is 00:50:10 at this play, it's called, what did I say? It was called the Reedy Creek Improvement District. You can look that up on Wiki. And there are people that live there that are like not employed by Disney, but not many. There's like 24 residents who live in this entire big area that are like not employed by Disney, but not many. There's like 24 residents who live in this entire big area that are not Disney employees. Wow. They're all family members of people that do work for Disney who have just been like basically bussed in
Starting point is 00:50:37 and they live in these little McMansions. There's one street that people, that is a residential street in this area. It's called Royal Oak Court, Kam's Court. I looked it up on Google Earth because I wanted to see what it looks like. It's just one little cul-de-sac and there's nine houses that are like these prefab, McMansion style houses. As I mentioned, only like 24 people live there.
Starting point is 00:51:03 They've clearly just like the cousins and aunties and uncles of whoever the head Disney executives are or whatever. And they're like, come and live here. You live in a big house. You live right next to Disney World. And your only job basically, you get a pool, you get all this amazing amenities. Your only job is that once a year you have to vote for us to be your council again. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:26 What the heck? Wait, you have to vote? Well, they're the only people that can vote. So it's just like, yeah, you live there. Your job is basically to just keep voting us in. And if they don't, I guess it all falls apart. I guess it falls apart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I mean, that would be a cool movie to watch. Like, just the one holdout on the Disney property or whatever. He go, I'm voting for myself. I'm going up as a, and I'm going to get a Bay of Marie's in everyone's house. Dude, you probably could, you probably could hold out and ask for more things. Just be like, can I get, can I get a Bay Marie in the kitchen? And they'd be like, all right, but you got to fucking vote. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yeah. Yeah. You're probably good. So there's only 24 people in there. Can we call these Mickey, Mickey Mansions? I don't know if that doesn't even matter. That's something. Is that something?
Starting point is 00:52:17 I thought of it before and then, you know, I thought I'd say it now. Well, better late than never, I reckon. This slight lag is really killing me, Cam. Sorry man. I've got quips to interrupt you with. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I will shut the fuck up for a bit, I promise. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Oh wait, before though, before I do, I was just thinking, aren't you about to do a tour? I am. What's the go with that? What do you mean what's the go with it? What's the a tour? I am. What's the go with that? What do you mean, what's the go with it? What's the show called? I forget. My show is called Broken Records and I'm touring it around this goddamn country. Yeah, all the big cities, all your favourite towns.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I'm doing all my favorite towns. Not New York though, but all my other favorite towns like Sydney and Melbourne and Brisbane and Canberra and Newcastle and Perth. Home town show. And Adelaide and Hobart and Launceston. Oh sick. And probably maybe some others, maybe Bright. I'm thinking of putting out. I've done shows in Bright.
Starting point is 00:53:24 They've got a nice little theatre there. Maybe some others, maybe Bright. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I've done shows in Bright. They've got a nice little theater there. Yeah, OK. I put in a word for them. It might be a bit small for Cam James, but I don't know. No, no, no, not in Bright. I'd be lucky to get four people there. Be lucky to get enough to vote for me to be a council member.
Starting point is 00:53:42 But yeah, I'm excited to see this show. I never got to see your last show, which everyone absolutely raved about, but it was always sold out when I went to get a ticket. I literally- That's because I bought up every ticket that wasn't sold. Well, that's a no. I was there at Comedy Republic and they're like, no, this is fully booked out. I didn't realize. So it was just empty seats in there. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:02 It's just me sort of crying in an empty room. I wish I knew you were there. I'm looking forward to seeing this this time. Can you just hold me one of those empty seats? Hold for me if it's all right. I'll hold you on. I'll hold you on. But it is still going to be me crying if that's OK. That's kind of what I do these days.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Like I used to do like funny songs and tell stories and jokes, but nowadays I'm really getting into like scream therapy and crying. You watch the end of Peter Pan, then you go on stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just described the plot of Peter Pan to all of them through sobs. Hey Cam, you'd probably be interested in this. Me and Dave are also doing shows. Come on, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yeah, yeah. Tell me about it. Tell me more about it. Hitting up some towns. Come on. Are you kidding me? Yeah, yeah. I'm so mad. Tell me about it. Tell me more about it. Hitting up some towns. Yeah. Where are you going? Well, I don't think I... Well, I'm going to... At this stage, I think I'm booked in for Adelaide, Melbourne, Brisbane.
Starting point is 00:54:56 But I'm sure I'll be going to Sydney. I'm sure I'll be going to Perth. Yeah, show your face. I would like to be going to Hobart. And Bright, you know, if you're listening, mayor of bright and we know you are. Get on the blower. Watch those go bad boy, which I think is pretty apt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Dave, what's yours again? My shows, Dave Warnocki dates the entire audience part two. Me and Sammy Peterson and interactive fun little show going to Melbourne, Sydney and Adelaide. And we're also doing our 500th episode coming up, Cam James, can you believe that? Live at the Capitol Theatre in Melbourne. I actually don't. I don't believe it. It's true.
Starting point is 00:55:36 No, I think I've been lied to. Cam. I think you're telling me lies. We're not. Why would we? Tell me sweet little lies. No, we're not. What is it? April 26? That's right. Big Saturday Night lies. We're not. Why would we? Tell me sweet little lies. No, we're not. What is it? April 26th?
Starting point is 00:55:47 That's right. Big Saturday Night Show. Can't wait. Only 25 days after April 1st, April Fool's Day. I think it's a joke. I think it's a prank. You've got 30 days after April Fool's Day to pull off a big prank. I think so.
Starting point is 00:56:01 That's the rule. It's April Fool's Month. That's how I celebrate in my family. It's just how I was so. That's the rule. It's April Fool's month. That's how I celebrate in my family. It's just how I was raised. This podcast is brought to you by Squarespace, the all-in-one website platform to help you stand out and succeed online. Whether it's your first ever website or your business is expanding, Squarespace makes it easy to create a beautiful website and engage with your audience.
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Starting point is 00:58:28 They'll be like, what? What happened? Where were you? Where'd they go? We all went out. We all went out for a little bit and we had a milkshake and now we're back. It was really nice. And now we're full of milk.
Starting point is 00:58:39 And we feel sick. We're all for really sick. Not good for talking a lot. It's hot today as well. Yeah, 32 degrees. That's not a milkshake kind of day. It's good for the body. It's good for really sick. Not good for talking a lot. It's hot today as well. Yeah, 32 degrees.
Starting point is 00:58:47 That's not a milkshake kind of day. It's curdling on the way down. All right. I'm going to come back in with a death for you guys. Excellent. Actually, and as a warning, I know last time I was on, I talked about some murders and some deaths as well, and it was a little dark. There's a little bit of that coming up as well.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And we'll try to keep it not too dark and disgusting, but unfortunately, you know, there's a few dark and disgusting things coming up, but I'll tone it down and I'll say it with a twinkle in my eye so you'll know that there's a lightness and- Yeah, yeah. There's a lightness within you. Yeah. Yeah. But there's a darkness and a disgustingness about the world.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Definitely. Listeners should picture Tinkerbell saying it to them. Yeah. That might soften it a little. Get to Tinkerbell, that'd be nice. Did we get the real one? Yeah, we got the real one. No, no, no. I don't think we could afford the real one.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Julia Roberts. Yeah, Julia Roberts. She'll always be my Tinkerbell. Same. All right. Everyone shut the fuck up. Because Walt Disney died in 1966. Same. All right. Everyone shut the fuck up. Because Walt Disney died in 1966 before the Epcot dream could come true. But when he died, he made everyone, including his brother, Roy Disney, promise that they would build the Epcot community of tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And then he did die and they all were like, we shouldn't do that. Honestly, fair. Well, we promise, fingers crossed behind their back. Well, it's insane. We have no plans of doing that. We can't make a big dome, Walt. You know what I'd be saying on my deathbed? I'd be, I'd turn to my husband and I'd say, keep the plants alive.
Starting point is 01:00:26 And I know he wouldn't, but he would say, of course. In your honour, I'll keep those plants alive. I'll keep watering that fiddle leaf. Yes. I'll let it fully dry out and then I'll drench it as they're supposed to be cared for, apparently. And I'll wipe the leaves every now and then. But he'd just come home and just piff them off the balcony. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:00:50 So yeah, of course you'd say, yes, we'll build it. Yeah, of course, mate. You just close your eyes and rest. And then he's gone and you go, well, he's dead. And you go, well, we're obviously not doing that, right? That's insane. We're building a fucking town under a bubble. We were all just appe obviously not doing that, right? That's insane. F***ing down under a bubble. We were all just appeasing a dying man, right?
Starting point is 01:01:09 But they did own all that land and it kind of sat there for a while. And then in the 70s, they instead took a fair chunk of it and built the Disney World Florida Park on it. And in honor of Walt, there is a small world in Disney World called Epcot, which is based on Walt's futurism ideas and features a lot of those things like monorails and underground tunnels and climate controlled environments, aka indoors. Do you think they built that just to appease, like, his ghost to stop hauntings? Or the head.
Starting point is 01:01:46 They're like, well, we got to go tell the head how Epcot's going every now and then. So, they didn't they didn't end up building the town, but they did still own, like, a significant chunk of land. The Disney World Park only takes up, like, less than a third of it. There's so much more land that they own. Wow. And it just kind of sat there for years and years and years. Nothing ever happened with it. There's so much more land that they own. And it just kind of sat there for years and years and years. Nothing ever happened with it. It was just this land and municipal area that was owned
Starting point is 01:02:10 by Disney and that Disney were like the cops of basically. But then in the nineties, Disney got a new CEO, a guy called Michael Eisner, whose whole MO was like returning Disney to the glory days, like make Disney great again sort of shit. He wanted to, he's the guy that brought in the, um, like Disney Renaissance of those cartoons that were big when we were kids, like the lion King and, um, beauty and the beast and shit like that. Um, he kind of modeled himself on Walt. I don't think he was racist, but he was like old world vibes. And, um, he revived the idea of rebuilding a town,
Starting point is 01:02:47 of building a town much like Walt's vision, but his is much smaller, which brings us finally to Celebration Florida, the place that I tease at the very beginning by reading from the bro-sure. So in the 90s, they make Celebration Florida. As I mentioned earlier, it's kind of modeled on like the 1940s, 1950s Midwestern small town. It looks like the Truman show. It's like a perfectly designed master community. Again, it is wheel shaped, which you'd be into Matt, kind of like Bay Marie sort
Starting point is 01:03:25 of style. Every house is designed basically to look exactly the same. I think there's like five or six styles of house that you can have. But there is matching pastel color schemes to all the houses. There's an oak tree in every front yard. The grass is all mowed by the council to be exactly the same, like regulation height across the entire town. Um, any modifications you make to your property will be subject to town council
Starting point is 01:03:53 approval, AKA Disney approval. Uh, or what else did they do? Oh yeah. They, um, there's no retail chains. There's only corner stores and milk bars and mom and pop stuff. I'm out. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:09 There's no supra. No, thank you. No supra. Sorry. No, there's mom and pop supra. Yeah. Mom and pop. Yeah, there's a mom and pop store selling slutty little t-shirts.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah, you can still buy your slutty little shirts, but. From mom. Well, they're trying to make it look like a mom and pop store, but it's all owned by Disney. Is that right? It's all owned by Disney. Everything is like this huge corporation. Yeah. It's like, if you, you know, you've, if you've been to a Disneyland, you know, like the Main Street USA style place where everything looks like it's been there since the fifties,
Starting point is 01:04:44 but it's new. And yeah, it's just like a fake version of an old, like of yesterday. They've got those wide streets that are like bricked with red bricks, you know, and there's ye old style lanterns that light up the street. And this is, it starts getting like real creepy at this point for me. There's music like 1940s music that plays on a constant loop throughout the town. No. And you're going to hate this as well. During the holidays, fake snow shoots out of cannons on the rooftops to make it look
Starting point is 01:05:21 like it's snowing and Christmas carols play from hidden speakers that are hidden in trees and bushes all around the town. Yeah, it's, it's two theme park. It's basically a theme park. But you're living in it. So you kind of, because you can leave a theme park. You get to go home at the end of the day. Yeah, well, this is your home. You live in the theme park, basically.
Starting point is 01:05:50 It became available to buy or like rent land in, like it became open to the public in 1995 and it was so huge. Like they put out that brochure thing that I read from earlier and advertising everywhere and just thousands and thousands of people from all around America were like scrabbling to join this small community. Now, in order to make sure that their town wasn't just going to be white people, they wanted it to be ethnically diverse. Well, that's not, I don't think that's true to what Walt wanted. We don't know for sure. We don't know for sure. We don't know for sure.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I saw both Matt and Dave looked nervous when I started talking. What's she going to say here? What's she going to say here? That's totally right. And a lot of the people who, whether consciously or subconsciously, when they are going, I dream of living in the 1950s. They're thinking of town of only white people. So I think all these thousands of people go and they go, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I thought we were talking about the 1950s here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's maga shit, basically. And they wanted to allegedly they wanted to avoid it being a racist or whatever town. So they made a randomized lottery system for the first 400 houses. So you entered and you'd be randomly chosen. It wouldn't be based on how much money you make or your racial makeup or whatever. So they did this random lottery and 95% of the winners were white and Christian. So really, so I don't know what, what a random, random lottery guys, but 95% of the
Starting point is 01:07:37 people applying a white and Christian, they're jeez, Louise. But like 100% that they're the people who are going to be attracted to getting in a time machine of the 1950s. Yeah, Louise. But like a hundred percent that they're the people who are going to be attracted to getting in a time machine of the 1950s. Yeah, totally. Exactly. That's, that's really what it is. Will there be a clan set up already or do we have to start our own? Is it BYU clan?
Starting point is 01:08:00 And the hoods come in pastel colors. You match your house. It's very cute. Yeah. So obviously that's really what it's catered for because it's like based on one white guy's memory of his childhood. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Yeah. Yeah. So of course it's like, yeah, I want to live there as well. It's going to appeal to people just like him. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Um, pretty much, so for the first few years that the town is open, it's popular, people seem to like it.
Starting point is 01:08:29 People it's all massive Disney fans, obviously, that are there. It's not normal people. It's like people that want to live in Disneyland, so they're all pretty happy. But you know, three or four years into the town existing, the cracks begin to emerge. So I'll, I'll bullet point of the cracks here for you. Um, the cost of living was 60% higher than the rest of Florida. So that was beginning to be a strain on people financially. Uh, the buildings in town were starting to fall apart because they weren't really built by real construction companies.
Starting point is 01:09:03 They'll build by people that make fucking theme parks. So they're not really designed to actually be like lived and worked in. No, it all looks great, but it's just like falling apart on the outside. Oh my god. They're like, what's installation? What's that? You don't need it, this is climate controlled. And also, because there's no like real government, because this is in a part of Florida where Disney is climate control. And also because there's no like real government because this is in a part of Florida where
Starting point is 01:09:26 Disney is the government. There's no building inspectors and stuff and like odes that need to be kept up. So the buildings start to fall down and start to get shoddy and people are getting injured. And so the townsfolk like band together and try to file lawsuits against Disney for a lack of building maintenance. But none of that is going ahead because like Disney or the government as well. So they can say like, fuck you. That is how frustrating that would be. I still can't get my head around it though.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Why wouldn't Disney want to make it a good place to live? Is Disney short of cash? It's just too much work. Like they're just all of a sudden they're like running a town and this is way too much for them. Yeah. Dealing with real people like 24 hours a day. Yeah, because they like the idea of it, but they can't- They don't want to spend too much time because it doesn't sound like- we wouldn't be like a multi-billion dollar moneymaker like the theme parks or the movies.
Starting point is 01:10:23 They're losing money on it, actually, because they're like, it's full of really great technology. All the schools, this is in the 90s, like 96, 97, all the schools have, every kid gets a Macintosh computer and shit like that. Like it's really like a lot of money is being spent on the education and the hospitals and all that stuff. So they're just losing cash. Wow. What kind of subjects are they?
Starting point is 01:10:49 Is it like Mickey Mouse is like a period three? History of Mickey. My, it's so weird. Like a hauntus. My grandpa. The Disney version. Like is that? My grandpa described my arts degree as a Mickey Mouse degree.
Starting point is 01:11:05 You got it. Yeah. Do you know what a Mickey Mouse degree is? Yeah. There's a huge alligator population. Well. Because it was built on previously unlivable swampland. So, there's, um, heaps of animal control issues involving, like,
Starting point is 01:11:22 alligators getting into people's houses and the school and stuff like that So that's a problem as well. I love this one There's a man-made pond in the middle of the town kind of like in back to the future, too There's that big pond in the middle of town square That becomes informally known as death pond Of a high number of car crashes directly into the pond. They really shouldn't have built a ramp next to it. Well, don't they know?
Starting point is 01:11:51 They don't work on water. Cars don't work on water. And also, like, people started to go a bit mad because rumours were like, no one knew who to trust in this town because people started spreading rumors. And I don't know how much of this is true, that every hospitality worker and retail worker was secretly like a Disneyland cast member, like playing a character of a hospitality worker. So no one really knew who to trust. They're like, is this a real guy or are you like, are you playing a character right now?
Starting point is 01:12:25 I talk to this guy every morning, he makes my latte. I don't even know if Jerry's his real name. Yeah, exactly. Save for doctors and psychiatrists. I asked Jerry to be my best man. I don't even think I know the guy. It's full trim and show shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:41 He's wearing a goofy costume as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, is that really him? Is he a dog-like person or what? You're right, psychiatrist, gynecologist. It's the same guy. I went on a Reddit forum a while ago for someone who was like, I lived in Celebration, Florida in the 2000s, AMA.
Starting point is 01:13:02 And all the questions were like, was there just Disney characters walking around your town? She's like, no, it was like a real town. Like everything was real or whatever. And then she started posting photos of it and it's like fully just looks like a theme park, so weird. But yeah, they didn't go so far as having like Mickey Mouse teaching at the school or whatever, but still people were freaked out.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Like people, I guess after a few years, the novelty is starting to wear off and everyone's kind of like, what the fuck is this place? Like, what? We live here and we don't, we barely know anyone. It's super weird. And it's falling apart. Falling apart. It's like a prefab place. Doesn't feel real. And like it's this fake snow shaving cream falling from the sky.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Do they have people- Yet it's boiling hot. Do they have people clean that up or every year there's add more shaving cream to the pile? I guess it like, I don't know, I guess it gets rained away or something. I don't really know. Some guy comes out and hoses it away. So people are starting to go mad within the first few years of it. And as I mentioned, they try to sue Disney because it's falling into disrepair,
Starting point is 01:14:07 but nothing ever comes of that. People are starting to get mad. Then in 2010, which is 14 years after 1996. Oh yeah. Yeah. And this is where it gets a little bit dark. Um, celebration has its first murder. bit dark. Celebration has its first murder. The very first murder in this idealistic, like paradise town takes place. A local man was found bludgeoned to death in his apartment.
Starting point is 01:14:36 The murder weapon was an axe and the town mourned him. But then after he died a few days later, it was discovered that the man was a sex offender with a long string of victims across the country. And he'd changed his name and moved to this fucking Disney town. And this was probably a revenge murder as well, which is just fucking insane. Wow.
Starting point is 01:15:00 And that obviously is like maybe starting to play in other people's paranoia as well. Like who are my neighbors? This town has popped up and people are like, some guys changed his name and moved here and brought murder to our town and brought like darkness to our town as a result. And it did seem to unlock something because that's the first murder, 2010. A week later, a second murder happens in like not far from the original
Starting point is 01:15:27 one. Totally unrelated. People wake up one morning and there's a SWAT team and local cops in the town square. And there's like a standoff, a local man named Craig Fouché. Love it. Great man. Unfortunately, he would be Craig F. Wow. Greg Fouchet. Unfortunately, he would be Craig Fouchet. Craig Fouchet.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Yeah, it's such a Floridian name too, like Craig Fouchet. He's in a 14-hour standoff with police. He's holding someone hostage in his house and he's firing shots out into the streets, barricading himself inside his house. Apparently, this is all related to the fact that his house was falling apart and he couldn't get anything fixed, and he was losing money because the cost of living was so high living in this town and it had driven him a bit mad, and he ends up killing himself, killing someone else. Disney, Disney at this point, fucks off from celebration. They sell the town to a private equity firm and like wash their hands of it. And basically there's no like literature about celebration on their, any of
Starting point is 01:16:38 their websites or anything, they pretty much just act like, yeah, that yeah, we, yeah, we, we did a town. We, we sort of experimented with a town for a little while there, but no, we don't do that anymore. That's someone else's town. Two murders in the space of a week and they'll, they just sell. They're like, go on, we got to go. Wow. So yeah, two murders.
Starting point is 01:16:58 I bet I got a good price. Yeah. It's so hot. It's like falling, falling apart. There's a fucking death pond in the middle of it. Private equity, they normally, I think when things that sort of private equity, private equity normally comes in and fixes everything up and- Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:14 In their interest to look after everyone. Yeah, it improves the situation. Yeah. What is that? I didn't really know what private equity is. Is that when someone's like, like they'd buy a place, they buy cheap, right? Like they'd buy a cheap land or like a cheap place that's falling apart or whatever. And what do they profit from it?
Starting point is 01:17:32 I don't really know. They'll sell it for parts and they'll, you know, just moving, moving things around a lot of, uh, you know, they open up a spreadsheet. This is how I understand it. I'm a pretty mathematically minded man. Yeah, dude. I mean, you told me how- You're talking finance? Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Moving numbers around. People- people's lives are being ruined. That's right, they're tripping the fact. But the faceless men behind the scenes. Ooh, cha-ching. So Disney- Disney fuck off celebration. It's still a, it's still a like master plan privately owned town, but it's no longer owned by Disney. And they go through like a 10 year like reputation rehab type thing to try and make their town nice and good again.
Starting point is 01:18:21 And for the most part, it succeeds. It kind of gets back to a level that everyone's pretty happy with. And Disney go, hey, we might buy this back. Can we come back? Yeah. They- this does not happen because unfortunately, another murder takes place in 2019. This one is more gruesome than the first two. So I will-
Starting point is 01:18:44 One of them was bludgeoning with an axe. Yeah. And another one was a shootout with police. Okay. I'll keep it again. Bear in mind, I'm saying this with a lightness and I have a twinkle in my eye. Oh my God. But this is actually really fucking gross and sad.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Um, anyway, we won't go too dark, but we have to get a little dark in order to you know, It's darkest right before the dawn as they say so We're near the end in December 2019 a man named Anthony Todd murders his entire family wife children and the dog Fucking hate. Yes the dog horrible shit dog, which I fucking hate. Yes, the dog. Horrible shit. He leaves them in their beds. I mean, he continues to live his life in celebration as normal for two months. Oh my god. Until
Starting point is 01:19:35 eventually a neighbor notices Anthony's erratic behavior and there's a buildup of mail on the front porch, I guess, right next to the swing, which is kind of like a hammock. Have they noticed that the family's not there? You know, normally- Yeah, people are probably starting to notice the family aren't there as well. They're like, what? Every time we see Anthony's looking really skittish and weird and doesn't want to talk to us. So a neighbour eventually calls the cops, they do a welfare check and they discovered this horrific scene inside his house.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Anthony claims to have no memory of the murders that he committed at all. And claims to be like in a fugue state for that two month period where he doesn't remember any of it, even though he was like going to work and going to the shops and shit and like living his life, claims he doesn't remember any of it. When he's asked the last thing he remembers to bring this going to the shops and shit and like living his life. It claims he doesn't remember any of it. When he's asked the last thing he remembers to bring this back to Disney, he says the last thing he remembers is that he was looking for a Mickey Mouse necklace that his daughter owned in her bedroom, which is such a weird little fucking detail.
Starting point is 01:20:40 It creeps me out so much. Uh, he's in jail. He's given life in prison. The judge even gives him extra time for killing the dog, which is good. detail, it creeps me out so much. Uh, he's in jail, he's given life in prison. The judge even gives him extra time for killing the dog, which is good. That's like, I mean, that's awesome. Does he have to go to pet prison at the end of his other sentence? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:56 You do 22 life sentences and then one year in pet prison. There's no clean motive either. Like this guy has a Wikipedia page as well. There's no clean motive either like this guy's a Wikipedia page as well. There's no clean motive. When they dug into his past, they discovered, this is a really weird detail, they discovered that his dad went to jail in 1980 for hiring a hitman to kill his own wife, Anthony's mom. So there's like a weird fucking crime family related thing there, which is, which is bizarre.
Starting point is 01:21:26 And also they discovered that Anthony was in a lot of debt. He was in over a hundred thousand dollars worth of debt that he'd apparently been hiding from his family because he'd spent all of their savings on trips to Disney World. Oh, how fucking weird is this shit? This is so weird. How many times do you have to go to rack up a hundred thousand dollars in debt? It's in the same state, right?
Starting point is 01:21:49 That's the Florida one. It's like right nearby. It's like, yeah. It's not the flights it is. No. It's just the rides and... Yeah. He's just going to Disneyland, Disney World, like solo, I guess, and like, just spending
Starting point is 01:22:00 a hundred thousand dollars. How many turkey legs? My God. Yeah. You did seem to be... I was wondering why you were so defensive at the start, saying, I'm not a Disney adult. Is that why? You didn't want to be associated. This is what happens?
Starting point is 01:22:13 Oh my God. Yeah. Holy shit. I mean, I promised you guys I'm not in over a hundred thousand dollars of debt for all the Disney parks that I've gone to in the last six years. But that's- You have been to many around the world, though. parks that I've gone to in the last six years. But that's crazy. There's many around the world though. Yeah. I have been to a lot, but I'm still in the red.
Starting point is 01:22:31 The red? Yeah. I'm in the red. I'm in the black. I'm in the black. I'm in the black. If I'm in the red, that's when you got to watch out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Um, so I don't really know what I'm supposed to take away from it. Like I've been, I've been with Celebration and this story and Walt's Dream and the fact that it all kind of ended in these really horrific murders that are all like directly the result of Disney it seems. I've been obsessed with it for a long time and I don't really know what I'm supposed to learn from it, if I'm supposed to learn from it if I'm supposed to learn anything, but I think the reason I'm drawn to it is because it's it's a story about like the quest for utopia and how this inevitably leads to like decay and and
Starting point is 01:23:18 like evil basically like the facade of perfection rots and Like the facade of perfection rots. And, um, anytime you try to do something that's perfect and wholesome and pure, fucking people turn it into something horrible and evil and start murdering. And I forgot to mention as well, they also, the, there's also sex parties going on. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We've skipped over that.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Come on. That's, that's around the time where they start trying to sue Disney and Disney won't Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
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Starting point is 01:23:59 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. lawsuits, people are going into crazy amounts of debt, all for Disney, like all in the pursuit of being close to Disneyland. Yeah, it's like the kind of what I said earlier, like the bright shining, you know, imagination and joy and spark and fairy dust of Disneyland, but right behind it is the
Starting point is 01:24:20 shadow. And I'm kind of a bit drawn by all that. Um, there's one final detail and this is a very recent update from the town of celebration. They built a couple of years ago, they built a new, they got rid of the death pond and they built like a town square that looks really similar to the back to the future one with a big memorial fountain, like a death fountain, a big fountain in the, in the middle of town that celebrates the story of celebration. And there's all the names of like whatever founders and all this shit, including the name of Walt Disney that's in the bricks around
Starting point is 01:25:04 the big fountain. But they've misspelled the name Walt Disney that's in the bricks around the big fountain. But they've misspelled the name Walt Disney. That's good. Instead of Walt Disney, it's misspelled as Wold Disney with a D. And I just think that's perfect. Perfect way to end it, that they. This all began as Walt's dream and it kind of ended in darkness and decay in his own name being misspelled on a fountain in a shit town that Disney doesn't even own anymore.
Starting point is 01:25:29 It's just not quite right, is it, when you try for perfection like that? It's not something we should do about it. So, I think the lesson that we all need to take from this is don't strive for perfection, guys, and don't try to create a utopia. I think my lesson is that they should have had the dome. That's a good point. Yeah. I think you're right. They went wrong by not having the dome.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Because then none of the houses would have fallen apart, maybe, because- It would have prevented the murder, definitely. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. It's a murder-free dome. Everyone knows that. Yeah. Well, that's probably what Walt should have said in the original plans.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Yeah. Like, the dome will stop all murders from taking place. Yeah. You got to really spell it out for people sometimes, you know, really spoon feed them. Now, there's no- If you're going to murder someone, you have to take them outside the dome. I thought you were going to say that they did the thing where they were like, yes, he got bludgeoned with an axe here, but he technically died off our property. He died on that little strip of unincorporated land over there that we've left for people to die on. So it's still there. The town is still there.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Still there. People live there. Just not many now. Yeah, I think it's probably, yeah, just not many and it's not owned by Disney anymore. And, um, it just sort of looks, when you look at photos of it now, it doesn't look like Disneyland so much anymore. They've kind of taken a lot of the mom and pop shit away from it. And there's, there's normal shops there and shit. Now there's like, they've got a boost juice. shops there and shit now there's like a two-price.
Starting point is 01:27:04 They've got a boost juice. Oh fuck yeah. Get a white chocolate mocha. Yeah. They got his umbrella rose and stuff. If there was like a main street Australia, that is what it would look like. Yeah. Cause mini Gomez. If you're hungry, hungry Jacks. Yeah. Yeah. Guzmine Gomez. Muffin time. Muffin break. Hungry Jax probably.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. M.H.J.'s Cafe. Yeah. Jax Cafe I think. Jax Cafe.
Starting point is 01:27:36 You can live there. You can, I looked a couple of years ago when we went to Disney World in Florida. I did want to go and visit it. I mean, me and my wife, I was like, can we go visit Celebration Florida? So you've known about it for a long time. Yeah. So like I weirdly pitched a podcast on it to the ABC a couple of years ago. And part of it was like, I want to fly there and interview people and and shit and they were like, we're not paying for you to go to.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Come on. Just to do this weird thing that you're obsessed with. But I did want to go there a few years ago and I was again pitching it to my wife. Like, can we go to celebration? And she was like, well, it's no. I mean, like why would we're here for like two days and you want to spend one of those days in a shit small town? That's not far from me. Man, next time you go, make it a boyfriend trip and I'll definitely come to celebration with you.
Starting point is 01:28:34 We'll do a boyfriend trip, man. But you can look it up. It looks kind of normal now, but it just sort of looks like the Truman Show town. It looks very, I'm looking it up on my laptop now. It looks very like perfect and yeah, and very town. Yeah. It looks very, I'm looking it up on my laptop now. It looks very like perfect and very pretty. I mean, it looks quite nice, but yeah, there'd be, it's like, so I did go to Dollywood last year and any kind of theme park, obviously they're themed. There's like, so there's different sections that are, oh, it's old Western and this is
Starting point is 01:29:04 this and there's a 50s diner. And it was so fun for like half the day. And then the magic starts to wear off a little bit. And you're like, it is all fake, though. Like, I can see that's that's not a real mine. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I couldn't live in it. It would feel too perfect and creepy. I mean, I think we have a bunch of Floridians, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:29:30 That right. Listeners, I wonder if there's anyone who lives in this part of the world, either in there or close by. Let us know. That'd be amazing. I'd love to talk to someone who lives there as well. Yeah. And I'd love for the ABC to pay for me to fly over there and have a chat with you, if possible. And I also want to know if they, if they ever fixed the misspelling in Walt Disney's name. So if anyone who's from there can go and take a photo of it, that would be nice. Walt Disney.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Walt. I'm having- It's such a famous name. How do you- How do you not- Yeah. I'm having a look at it on the maps. There's near a place called ESPN, Wide World of Sports.
Starting point is 01:30:12 There's like a whole area that's ESPN. What is this area in Florida? They're just like corporations of made little towns? That's really weird. Well, hang on. There's a town called ESPN. Well, it looks like it. It just looks like this whole this whole chunk of an area right across the highway from Celebration. Oh, yeah. In Bay Lake, Florida.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Yeah, they do. Oh, okay. There you go. Yeah. So this whole area is just fucking Disney, basically. There's Star Wars Launch Bay. Yeah. Awesome. Stinky dog dash. What the hell is that? Oh, slinky dog, slinky dog. Yeah, I think I think you're just looking at Disney World. I might be.
Starting point is 01:30:48 At this point, yeah, you are just looking at rides, I think. Oh my God, there's a town called Splash Mountain. Oh my God. What's this? It is really, it's right there then. Yeah. Right. Hopefully they got discounted tickets or like a It is really, it's right there then.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Yeah. Right. Hopefully they got discounted tickets or like a, you know, a lifetime pass or something. Well then you- I mean, that guy was in debt. Yeah, true. Yeah, that was the turkey legs. Yeah. It doesn't cover turkey legs or giant pickles.
Starting point is 01:31:20 You have to pay for those yourself. And if you want to use FastPass, yes, you do have to pay for that as well. Yeah. Okay. Zah, fucking crazy. So that's the, that's the story of Tell Celebration Florida. And, um, someday I'd like to go there. I had never heard of Celebration Florida and I loved that story so much.
Starting point is 01:31:39 That was fascinating, Cam. It's crazy. I love it. How could you think that's a good idea? How, like how? How and why? Hubris. Yeah. Everything you've done has touched the turn of gold. You're like, yeah, I'll solve the world's problems.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Yeah, it's Ford Landia style. I created a little mouse. How could it be? Can I ask, was I there for the Ford Landia episode? No. Oh, thank God, because I don't remember it at all. Oh, right. I think that was with Cass. Yeah, that's right. We were at Sands Pants, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Okay, great. And that was different because it was like an industry town in Amazon, where if you lived there, you were building cars in the Amazon. Is that right? I don't know if they were ever... They were... It was rubber. They were farming rubber.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Oh, they were farming rubber. But they didn't know how to do that. Yeah. They didn't know how to do that. Yeah. They just didn't know how to farm rubber. But they set up a whole town with the idea of farming rubber. Farming rubber. Yeah, rubber trees. But they didn't know that they'd learned lessons.
Starting point is 01:32:37 They'd learned bad lessons from different climates. And they're like, those trees, they keep dying. So it was hopeless. But in totally different ways from this, it was a disaster. Wow. These sort of attempted utopias that like rich men's follies, I think are so fascinating. It's the best. It's the best. There is some other town.
Starting point is 01:33:01 I think the Truman Show one. Where is that? Because I'd like to go to all these places. There's a, oh, the Truman Show town is in, I think the Truman Show one, where is that? Cause I'd like to go to all these places. There's a, oh, the Truman Show town is in, I think it's in Florida as well. Yeah. Seaside Florida. There's a few places in Florida that are like planned communities that'll look perfect and yeah, it's amazing.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I love that shit. We don't have, do we have any here? We should have a, yeah, a perfect Australian town. Oh God. Yeah. We talked about have, do we have any here? We should have a perfect Australian town. Oh God. Yeah. We talked about before, bright. Yeah. It's kind of the celebration Florida.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Yeah. And mostly white and bright. White Victoria. Before we let you go, Cam, tell us one more time about the show that you're bringing to Melbourne where we are, but also touring around the country. Thank you so much for setting me up Jess. That's really kind of you. Let me tell you about a show called Broken Records by Cameron James.
Starting point is 01:34:02 This is a show where a man gets on stage and sings some funny songs and tells some funny stories and has a few jokes as well. It is inspired by a near death experience that I had last year. Oh my gosh. It led me to write a show where I confess all of my deepest confessions. Wow. Uh, and that is what the show is. where I confess all of my deepest confessions. Wow. And that is what the show is.
Starting point is 01:34:26 So if you come along, you can expect to see me blosh as I tell you some things that I'm incredibly humiliated about. Wow. That. And then sing you some songs. That's a great hook. I'm in. Come see a man blush.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Yeah. And let me tell you that unlike Matt, I did see your last two shows because I got in early and bought tickets because I knew it would sell out because you always do because you're- Well this is how the rich get richer, Dave. What, by me buying the tickets? You buying the tickets for the shows that are already doing well. Why? Thank you for that.
Starting point is 01:34:58 That's why I'm trying to get in for Fred last week. And they were fantastic, so it's going to be great. You've got to get along and see a cam show. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'm looking forward to seeing you guys as well. So when you date the audience, do you do you seal the deal? Like, do you get to-
Starting point is 01:35:14 It depends how well it goes. Well, they wouldn't let him call the show Dave Warnock, he fucks the entire audience, but that is the subtext. It says that wasn't allowed. Yeah. Interesting. So- And does the- like, if you do seal the deal and fuck, does it happen live on stage or does it happen just afterwards and we don't get to see it?
Starting point is 01:35:33 Well, there will be a 15 minute changeover between me and the next show, so it depends how quickly we can all get our freak on, clean up and get out. Get our freak on! That's how long it's been since Dave had sex. He's still saying, get your freak on. He's still doing that disco style. No, that was a great, because that's a, it's the, it's the return of a show that you did with Sammy P 10 years ago. Yeah, that's right. This is part two. And I saw that show and it was so fun. So I'm very excited. Thank you very much. And this time I'm married with a child. So that's fine.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Let's watch Dave get his free gun. I think more people should be doing 10 year anniversary shows. Yeah, part two to a show that most people didn't see, but still it's a bit of fun. Yeah, it's good. I might do it. I'll bring back one of the many split bills that I did. But on your own? In 2010, but I'll do it again. With people that don't do comedy anymore, I'll bring them back.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Yeah, can you do that 20 minutes you did again? Terrible. As we say goodbye to the beautiful Cameron James, my boyfriend, we say hello to everyone's favourite section of the show where we get to thank some of our beautiful boyfriends and girlfriends and others who support the show at patreon.com slash do go on pod. Yes, it was the most confident you've said it for ages. And then you bailed on the pod.
Starting point is 01:37:03 He's absolutely right. It's patreon.com slash do go on pod. Type it in, type it in. What are some of the things you can get involved in there, Dave? You can get four bonus episodes a month, basically one every week, every Sunday, unless there's a weird month with five Sundays, but don't worry about those ones. You don't worry about that freak month. Stop worrying about those freak months. Have a Sunday off.
Starting point is 01:37:22 See you kids. You think those Sundays, those freak months think about you? They don't. They don't. They don't care about you. So don't sit around going, oh, it's a Sunday. It's one of those months where there's four of them. Shut up! Yeah. Yeah, shut up. And thank you so much for your support. And thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:37:40 And please enjoy the bonus episodes we make for you. These days there are 250. We've hit it in the back catalogue. So if you support now and you've never supported before, you can unlock those episodes as well. That's insane value for money. Can I just say that? It's crazy value for money. We recently found out there was one more than we realised thanks to our supporter, Bob. Thank you, Bob.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Who said two were labelled the same number. So we're like, one, it was like an extra one came out of nowhere. Thanks to Bob. Thanks to Bob. You also get ad free listening. You don't have to put up the ads anymore. It was just fantastic. You can come to the live shows and you get to know about them in advance for everyone else.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Discounted tickets as well. Be part of the Facebook group. Vote for topics so you get to tell us what we should really be talking about on here. And also you get the sense of satisfaction that you are keeping the show going. You are feeding Dave's baby. Honestly, yes, you are. Yes. What do you think, banana?
Starting point is 01:38:34 Think of it once a month. I'll let you vote on what I should feed my baby. That's a terrible idea. I think they should think of their subscriptions as a teat. To Dave's baby and to me. I think they should think of their subscriptions as a teat. To Dave's baby and to me. Yeah. We'd all like to sup at your teat. Anyway, one of the other things that people get to do if they're on the Sydney Schomburg level,
Starting point is 01:38:55 Rest In Peace Memorial Edition or above, are you going to give us a fact or quote or a question in this section of the show that actually is called Fact Quote or Question, how's the jingle go somewhere like this? Fact Quote or Question, has a jingle for someone like this. Fact Quote or Question. Oh my God, that was really beautiful. I've been taking singing lessons in secret. Really? No, I'm just naturally that good.
Starting point is 01:39:19 I don't normally say this about what we do, but that was art. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was. It's taken us 480-something episodes, but we finally made art. It's hard to come back from that now. We have to do that every week. Fuck. We'll forget. Almost definitely.
Starting point is 01:39:35 So if you're on the Sidney Schomburg level, Rest In Peace Memorial Edition or above, you get to give us a fact or quote or a question or a braggart or a suggestion or really whatever you like. And then I read them out on the show first time. I haven't read them out before, so please don't make me say anything weird. AJ will edit it out, I'm sure. He'll look after me. Yeah, AJ looks after you.
Starting point is 01:39:54 In the edits, I'm pretty sure he does. Although feedback does say that he often leaves in me asking things to be edited out. Anyway, this one first up comes from Isabel McTeer. And you also get to give yourself a title in here. And Isabelle's title is Captain Coffee, American Division. Really like that. And I think this might be the first time we've had a sub category of definitions. Oh, I like that. Yeah. So I like to learn. It's true.
Starting point is 01:40:25 And immediately forget. And that's my strength on this podcast. Anyway, Captain Coffee writes, I'm sorry I made people sad with my last fat quarter question about my dog, Juliet, especially since this is a comedy podcast as an apology. I wanted to do something more fun and hopefully more appropriate for comedy. Yes, I know. I set the bar very low for myself starting with a dead dog emoji with monkey covering its eyes.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Got it. No apology required. None at all. Can I just say that you can use this for whatever you like. You can get real in this section. Yeah. Of course you can. We are all about being vulnerable in the space and being your true authentic self.
Starting point is 01:41:02 You can do whatever you like. And we'd be lying if we said that dogs didn't die in the reports as well, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're aware of death, we're aware of dogs. Yes. My dog won't ever die, but I've heard that others do. Oh man, I thought Penny would never die. I was so, I fully believed it.
Starting point is 01:41:19 I'm like, this is a street cat that it just doesn't die, but a passing car had other thoughts. That is dark humor, I would say. That's dark humor. But that's what, I mean, I'm- That's an actual example of dark humor, not what my dad calls dark humor, which is just racism. Oh my God, okay.
Starting point is 01:41:37 I have a different definition. I still see Penny out the corner of my eye around the place. No. Yeah, anyway, when... Sorry. Sorry, Captain Coffee. You were trying to change it from dead pets and we brought it back to dead pets. I apologize.
Starting point is 01:41:52 But Penny was a really great cat. I liked that cat a lot. She'd give me little licks. Cat tongues feel like sandpaper. Yeah. But also kind of nice. I know. It's interesting.
Starting point is 01:42:00 So nice. So Captain Coffee goes on, Isabel. When I was in high school, a very common trend was to look up our friends' names on urbandictionary.com. And whenever we got to go to the computer lab, for the young'uns, we used to have rooms of computers because we didn't have internet on our phones. Those were just bricks.
Starting point is 01:42:19 I wonder what they do with those classrooms now. What is that now? Because we had computer rooms. Of course, you got a computer lab. But is that now? We had computer rooms. Of course, computer lab. But now every student has a laptop with them. Bloody back in my day, we had to bring a bloody full pack of floppy disks. Yeah, that's true. That is true.
Starting point is 01:42:33 Yeah, I remember having to bring having to bring the disks. Yeah. In primary school, we had hard disks, which were the ones that were actually floppy, ironically. Confusing. Anyway, that was obviously last century at least. So we go on. Let's jump in a time machine and head back to 2009 where we are supposed to be doing research for our history group project, but are just watching music videos and updating our MySpace page without urban dictionary definitions. updating our MySpace page without Urban Dictionary definitions. I miss MySpace.
Starting point is 01:43:06 Okay. So it looks like Isabel has done our names. Yes! Oh, amazing. I hope I've got a good one. I reckon yours is probably really lame, Dan. Are they nearly always sex positions? Yeah, yeah, yeah, nearly always. All right. So Jess is defined by Urban Dictionary, a hot guy that is funny and will most likely steal your bitch. Find the lie.
Starting point is 01:43:31 I can't. You can't. I can't. Hot guy? Tick. Funny. Funny. Hello. How many bitches have you stolen? I've actually lost count. Yeah. Well, just everyone's. Matt is defined by the Urban Dictionary, an ancient Greek translation for external sex god. External sex god. External sex god, yeah. It is believed that anyone that holds this name has a great level of skill and ability to perform sexual acts for long periods of time. Men possessing this name are also well endowed.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Yep, that is true. Tick, tick, tickaroo. That is true. The most popular name, at least in Australia, for about 15 years straight. A lot of well endowed, edge, edgy, edgy boys. Edgelords. Edgelords. Yep. In the bedroom. Here we go. Dave's is going to be good, I reckon. Finally, yeah. Because ours were both just really accurate. Yes. So now, it this will be the ruler three.
Starting point is 01:44:26 This will be the joke. Dave is divined by Urban Dictionary. Dave is the ruler of all universes, dimensions and realms. He isn't a god, he is the god. OK, so Dave wrote this on Urban Dictionary. He is the epitome of life and the world as we know it. Anyone named Dave is a vessel for such greatness. One shall sacrifice their lives
Starting point is 01:44:48 to the holiness and perfectness of the Dave. The Dave. The Dave. Dave represents all things beautiful and worthy of life. I tip my hat and salute to the God that megabits all things and all creatures. What does megabits all things mean? Thank you, Dave. We all owe you our lives.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Nothing can define your greatness. Join the Dave revolution. Be awakened. Wake up, Sheeple. It's the Dave. Yeah, but let's keep in mind that I'm coming for all your bitches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:22 That's- I'm a steal your bitch. It also didn't mention how big my wang is. So, that means if it's not mentioned, it's probably nothing to be writing home about, is it? And that's hurtful, isn't it? I don't know. It feels like a Doth doesn't protest too much top scenario. Yes, if it's not mentioned. Yeah, you're humble about it. Yeah, I think the Matt one is, you know, why are we saying this in a definition?
Starting point is 01:45:43 Because a Matt wrote that, obviously. Guys that are very, very sensitive about their height, usually short. So if you're not really talking about the size of your wang, your enormous wang, that's just because it's just the norm to you. Yeah, you're tall in the pants. Oh, he's in the top 10 percentile. Do they do that with babies? That's not one of the common measurements. So finally, they should.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Is it all right? I hope this was fun. If not, you can revoke my fat quota question privileges. I also hope it was easier to read this time. I use paragraphs. I'm so sorry. Was I being it sounds like I might have been a bitch last time, Isabelle. And that's why I stole you. Yeah. No, it, it, I mean,
Starting point is 01:46:29 it helps because we are reading, or Matt is reading this off an Excel spreadsheet. Yeah, one cell in a spreadsheet and it, it does get tricky in there. Breaking it up does make it easier to read. So thank you. Thank you so much. And we are certainly not revoking your rights so far. Two from two. Yeah. I wonder if you can do all the emotions. Yeah. We're done happy and sad. Yep. Next. What's that? Erections? Um, hungry? Hungry.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Yeah. Hungry is a big emotion. It's for me. It's one of my driving forces. Thank you, Isabelle. The next and final one this week comes from Matthew Whittingham, aka Dugo on Red Ranger. Matthew has a fact writing, by the way, Matthew, I don't know if you've heard. Yeah, I was going to say. You're well endowed. Matthew writes, the Power Rangers villain, Rita Repulsa has been portrayed by five actresses in the first season of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. She was portrayed physically by Japanese actress Machiko Suga using footage of a character witch Bandora in Caillou Caillou
Starting point is 01:47:35 Sentai Zairanga from which the American show is adapted. Reed's voice was provided by American voice actress Barbara Goodson, who is also known for her voice work in a bunch of shows you've never heard of. When the American studio was recasting Reader locally for the second season, Goodson auditioned to take over the physical portrayal, but given that she was significantly shorter than Soga, as well as a decade younger and white, it was determined she would look too different in the role. They instead cast Carla Perez, would look too different in the role. They instead cast Carla Perez, an American actress born in the Philippines, who was 30 years younger than Soga.
Starting point is 01:48:12 This was explained in the show by Rita drinking an age potion. Ah, clever. That's so funny. They're like, oh, she's the first one was 10 years younger. That won't work. 30 years younger. Now we can rot in a potion. That's potion worthy, yes. Goodson stayed on as Reader's voice actress and together Sheen Perez would portray Reader in every television appearance until the end of Power Rangers in space in 1998.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Yes, this does go on. We're only up to 1998. Goodson also voiced Reader in 1995's Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, the movie, but as they were filming in Sydney, New South Wales, they cast local actress Julia Cortez for the physical portrayal. Cortez has one other acting credit on IMDB, Cynthia Campos, aka Bill Hunter's wife, in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. Wow. That's an amazing two roles.
Starting point is 01:49:05 Couple of big hits, yeah, and then retire on top. Yeah. Hell yeah. Reader would appear multiple times across the series in flashbacks and archival footage. For completion's sake, I'll also mention Robo Reader from the 30th anniversary special, Once and Always, who was played by an uncredited suit actor and technically isn't Rita anyway. Wow. Rita's true final appearance in the series comes in the finale of Power Rangers Mystic Force in 2006,
Starting point is 01:49:31 this time voiced by New Zealand actress Susan Brady. Rita has been purified and is now the Mystic Mother, a good witch who now assists the Power Rangers. Oh. In this appearance, she is once again portrayed by Machiko Souga, this time using footage of her character, Heavenly Arch Saint Magill from Mahou Sentai Magiranger. While there was no connection to her earlier character
Starting point is 01:49:58 in the Japanese series, it allowed the American series to build out their lore, as well as acting as a tribute to Souga, who had passed away earlier that year. Wow, wow, wow. That was a mini report basically. That was wild. From Matthew Whittingham. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:13 Do go on Red Ranger. Love that. Thank you so much to Matthew. Thanks so much to Isabelle. Love those fact quotes and questions. If you are on the Sydney Schomburg level, you can drop them to me at any time, day or night. You're always open, are you? I'm always open.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Wow. The next thing we like to do is shout out to some of our other fantastic supporters from the shout out level or above. I believe that is the ass prod level or above. And Jess, you normally come up with a game based on the topic at hand? I do. And instead I was sitting here just having a nice time, but I haven't thought of a game. I was thinking something kind of like Disney World, Disneyland related, but I don't know enough about it. What about if they, instead of splooging out fake snow, what's the thing that they
Starting point is 01:51:02 brought to the town? Oh, I love that. All of these people are moving to the town, to this fake perfect town that we've built. Yeah. What are they bringing with them? Yes. Love that. All right. Like a little potluck. Yeah, it's fantastic. How about I read out the names and you two come up with those things? Love it. First up, I'd love to thank for all their support from London and Great Britain. It's Matthew Port.
Starting point is 01:51:25 He brought a casserole. Matthew bought a casserole. And is there enough for everyone in the town? No. Oh, Matthew. It is first in best dress and it is far too hot. What are you talking about? Like four serves, five serves.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Oh, it'd do like a, probably like a eight. It's an eight serve. Oh, okay. That's pretty good. That's for like a decent, you know, full meal. I suppose if you could probably stretch that to like 16 serves, if people are just taking a little bit amongst other food. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:51:50 Like there's like a rice or something to bulk it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's not that many people living there. Yeah, and this is like these are the first people arriving and everybody's bringing really cool stuff, which we'll hear about. But nobody actually thought about, oh, we need to eat. Yes. You know, moving house, you forget to eat because you go, go, go, and then you're absolutely
Starting point is 01:52:08 buggered by the end of the day. So Matthew actually did a really good thing there and Matthew's also really well endowed. Oh, big time. He will not stop talking about it. Next one comes from Sydney here in Australia. Please and thank you, Katrina Mark. Katrina Mark has brought a fish tank. Very big one and everyone can come have a look. Puts in the front window of Katrina's house. Please and thank you Katrina Mark. Katrina Mark has brought a fish tank.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Oh. Very big one and everyone can come have a look. It puts in the front window of Katrina's house. Oh, it's not going in like a Chinese restaurant or something? It's just in Katrina's house. Yeah, but it's in the front window so you can walk past and Katrina doesn't mind if you bring the kids along to have a little look. Have we approved that structural change to Katrina's house?
Starting point is 01:52:39 We actually haven't. Right, OK. So enjoy it while it lasts. Yeah, yeah. and the tank is full Absolutely full. Yeah, well beautiful tropical fish. Yes all rescued. So they're they're rescue fish From the ocean the dangerous dangerous ocean hate the ocean there were sharks in the vicinity So we got that we whipped them out of there Thank you for thinking about Katrina.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Next up from, oh my God, Orlando, Florida, right there in the United States. This is right at basically in the suburbs of Orlando. It's Marissa Dixon. Marissa actually brought the Zamboni. Oh. Because we obviously built an ice rink. Of course. But we- In that climate, of course you would.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Yeah, of course. But we. In that climate, of course you would. Yeah, of course. But we did not have the foresight. We forgot about the Zamboni and Marissa was like, don't worry, I got one. So rode the Zamboni into town. Oh, a hero. A hero. And we cheered and cheered. It was nice. Yeah. Don't worry, Marissa, you get double casserole serving if you want. That's right. Help yourself. It is hot. Next up, I'd love to thank from West Melbourne, which is here in Melbourne, I believe, Rain Herman. Holy shit, Rain, what a name. Rain Herman has brought cornhole.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Oh, great. That cornhole game where you throw a little bean baggie. Yeah. Things into the hole. That's fun. Fun for the whole town. Fun for the whole town. Come on down. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:12 You throw a bag of corn into a hole. Perfect. That's fun. It's really fun. That is fun. It was nice to enjoy, Rain. Thank you. Thank you so much, Rain.
Starting point is 01:54:20 A great outdoor activity. Put that in a beer garden. We're all having a good time. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you very much, Rain. Uh, I'd also have to thank from Central Islip or Islip in New York. It's Damien Atwood. Damien Atwood brought along a, uh, like a food truck. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Food truck. That's great. As the casserole is running out, he just rocks up. And everyone's like, yeah, he's the hero in the town. And he does all sorts of stuff. He does pizza. He does tacos. He does hot dogs. He does spaghetti. Well, well, but not sure of none. Love that late at night.
Starting point is 01:54:58 Yeah. You're hitting up demons. I take any of that. Yeah, 100 percent. I'll take them all and turn into one of those pizza folded over. Yeah. Calzone. Calzone with everything in. You're going to throw it up anyway. In the air. Catch it with my mouth. That's right.
Starting point is 01:55:14 From Clearwater, also in Florida. What the heck? Wow. I'd love to thank Mary Marla. Mary Marla has arrived with a box of wigs. Yes, for dress up parties. You've up, throw on, you've got like, oh, something's, you're in the Beatles. Oh my gosh. You've got a really big curly hair, wow.
Starting point is 01:55:30 I've always just wanted to see what I'd look like blonde. Yeah, perfect, we've got one for you. Great. Where'd you pick those up from, Dave? Found them in the attic. Yeah, of the old house. Of the Wix Fee? Of the, no.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Yeah, I think Mary has moved from Knoxville, Tennessee. Yeah, right. Home of the Wix Fee, so those could've come from there Knoxville, Tennessee. Yeah. I love the Wigsphere. So those could have come from there. That makes sense. Next. Thank you so much, Mary. These wigs. We're already having a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:55:51 Very cheap, but I'm having a lot of fun. Yeah. Next one comes from... Are these false hair? I'd guess unknown. I can only assume from deep within the fortress of the moles. Sounds like a fake name as well, to be honest. Pleased to take you to Ashley Austin.
Starting point is 01:56:04 Well, that's a fake name. Yeah, it's a. Pleased to take you to Ashley Austin. Well, that's a fake name. Yeah, it's a fake. Actually has and funnily enough, Ashley has actually brought the machine that Ashley uses to make fake IDs. Like a little printing. That's fun for everyone. It's fun. It's fun for the youth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:21 Obviously, we don't we don't have like you can drink at any age in our cool town. Yeah, yeah. And the Mickey Mouse cops, they just, they want to have something to say, you know, we're doing our job. Yes, yes. But as everyone's winking, like literally winking nonstop when they're showing, the toddlers are walking in, showing how they're winking. And they go, here's your pint, toddler.
Starting point is 01:56:40 Here's your pint. Put a little sippy cup lid on it. Yeah, they don't want him to spill. Thank you so much, Ashley Austin. You're doing God's work there. From Mount Pleasant in New South Wales. Sounds awful. You hate mountains.
Starting point is 01:56:54 Bit of fun. It's Nicole Greenwood. Nicole Greenwood has brought with them assorted goggles. Yes. Let's all go swimming, but none of us will have sore eyes. Good, because you know what, this is the worst when you get to the pool and you go, oh, I left my goggles.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Forgot the goggles. Don't worry. And also, I use my goggles now because I went to the pool, had forgotten my goggles, bought some goggles, used them once. Swimming's not for me. And then now I use them to chop onion. Oh, yeah. Do you really?
Starting point is 01:57:22 I really do. I'm always terrified the neighbours are going to walk past right at that moment as I'm- because our kitchen window looks out to a communal area. I'd love to see a photo of that. Hello. They're going to fix you and they go, hello, hello. Evening! I'm chopping onion for dinner.
Starting point is 01:57:34 They already think you're weird, don't they? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I wonder why, like, I often think, like, so the neighbours don't really chat to us much and now I'm starting to understand why. And finally, from Walkersville in MD, maybe Maryland in the United States, it's Stacy. Stacy brought the pool. Oh, we needed one of those. It's one of those like, it's not inflatable. You know those ones that are, you know. It's got a frame, like an aluminium sort of popping frame. It's pretty big. It's pretty big. It's pretty big. And you need...
Starting point is 01:58:05 It's actually... Are you in Stacey's voice? It's actually pretty big. Yeah, yeah. I was already doing a bit. Once you unpack it, it is... It's fun to then... It's fun to jump on a bit. It's pretty big. It's pretty big. I really enjoyed it. No, it's pretty big though. I can fit like 10 people in it. Stacey, we really do appreciate that very much. Stacey, Nicole, Ashley, Mary, Damien, Rain, Marissa, Katrina and Matthew.
Starting point is 01:58:32 Legends one and all. And the last thing we need to do is welcome some people from the Tripditch Club. Dave, you explain this so well. Well, this Matt is our clubhouse, our theater of the mind, our hangout zone, our hall of fame, if you will, for people that have been supporting the show for three consecutive years on the shout out level or above.
Starting point is 01:58:49 Already they've had a shout out. We've given them some sort of nickname or something years ago, but now to enshrine them forever, the name goes up on the wall. We put them into the clubhouse, we welcome them in and inside there's music, there's games, there's stories to tell, there's lots and lots of stuff. There's food and drink, which Jess often organizes. Yep. There's ice cream in the shape of Mickey Mouse.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Whoa. There's like a slushy type thing. This sounds great. It's all like it's Disneyland, Disney World themed food at the moment. So in the shape of stuff. East Compass ice cream shop? No. And Dave, you normally book a band for the after party. You're never going to believe it. I've been talking to this young man for a long, long time.
Starting point is 01:59:25 Mr. Florida himself, Flowrider is here. Oh my God. Yes. Everybody gets low. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Huge. He'll spin us right round.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Baby. Thank you so much, Dave, for booking that. The way this works is a bit of a theory of the mind, sort of like what Dave was saying. I'm on the door. I've got the guest list this week. We've got a few entries. We've actually got seven, I believe. Lucky seven. Lucky for some. Seven inductees this week. And when you hear your name, run on in. Dave's on the stage. He's harping you up. He's the MC. Then we'll obviously have the band at the after party. Jess hypes up Dave because his weak word play that he uses.
Starting point is 02:00:08 I will not stand for Dave's word place lander. Come on, please don't do that in front of a man who's funny enough to call himself Flow Rider. Please do not do that to me. Sorry, that's a good point. All right. Are you ready? Yes. First up, please welcome to the Triptych Club from Cannon Falls in maybe Minnesota. It's Andrew Spitzosa.
Starting point is 02:00:26 Oh, I think it looks like it's Split-tosa. Okay, that's quite different to what I said. I will never split from you, Andrew. Yeah, together forever, baby. Andrew Split-tosa, maybe. Sorry, and thank you, Andrew. From Ashford in South Australia, please welcome Jeremy Gleason. Are you filming me for the Gleason?
Starting point is 02:00:51 Yeah, Jeremy. Woo! From Melbourne, Victoria, it's Reece. Well, I don't want to grease the wheels. I want to Reese the wheels. Get this night going with Reese. Bit of lube. Our wheels are like a bain marie from Avondale Heights here in Victoria, please. And thank you and welcome Natalie Baker.
Starting point is 02:01:07 I don't need a Baker's dozen. I just need one Natalie Baker that is. From Chicago, the windy city in Illinois, America, please. And welcome and thank you. Myla Jamison. Or killer no Myla. I thought you were going to say Miller. Miller.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Well, it could be Miller. Yeah. Or killer no Myla. I thought you were going to say Miller. So Miller. Well, it could be Miller. Yeah. Oh, killer no Miller. Myla.
Starting point is 02:01:31 I reckon it's probably Miller. Okay. But still Myla High Club. It's just hanging out with you. Nothing weird. Nothing weird. From Chiswick in Great Britain. Welcome the well and down Matt Gillespie. That's really funny.
Starting point is 02:01:47 Dizzy, you feel dizzy? I feel dizzy. Oh, geez, a fat Gillespie, fat in your pants. Something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fat Gillespie. I'm like what? Oh, Matt, fat, okay. Fat in your pants.
Starting point is 02:02:00 Oh, sorry. I gave you dizzy. I'm finally from Belmont in New South Wales, fat. Yeah. Fat in your pants. Sorry. And what gave you dizzy. I'm finally from Belmont in New South Wales, Australia. Please and thank you, Mikaela McCray. Mikaela McCray. I was thinking of making me crazy. Yeah, making me crazy.
Starting point is 02:02:17 Mikaela making me crazy. You got I think we got it in a positive sense. Yeah. Thank you so much, Michaela. Matt, Mila or Myla. Natalie, Reese, Jeremy and Andrew. That brings the end of the episode. Can you believe it? Just anything we needed to tell before we go?
Starting point is 02:02:36 Hey, listen up. Jess wants to wrap with you guys for a second. Oi, oi, oi. He's up here. Settle down,. Please. Bring it in. You can follow us on social media, which is dogoonpod across Instagram, Facebook, not really Twitter anymore. Do Go On podcast on TikTok. And that's where, you know, we'll keep you up to date with everything that we're doing. You can also find our website dogoonpod.com.
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