Do Go On - 486 - Murder in the Shadow of Disneyland

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

Disney, the most magical place on earth - but what lurks in the shadows? All sorts of stuff apparently! We're joined by Cameron James to hear all about it!This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 10:04 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).For all our important links: https://linktr.ee/dogoonpod Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dev Warnocky and, as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. I'm the Jess Perkins of that introduction. And?

I'm the Matt Stewart. And it's so good to be here, so good to be alive. Geez, I can't wait to find out who that person is behind the curtain. Oh my goodness. Yeah, at 2025, we've started a new thing, whereas if we have a guest in, we put them behind a curtain. We don't know who they are. and then we reveal them. I really have they're a comedian

or someone who's comfortable on a microphone. Yeah. Yeah, we've relied on the third party to book the guests. We don't know who they've chosen. They might have got desperate and just got someone off the street. Oh, boy. So let's find out now. Let's find out.

Okay, I'm just being handed a card, Oscar style. I'm going to open it up. Would you please welcome to the show? Oh, my goodness. It's Cameron James. Oh, my God. Thank God it's me. What a relief.

Thank God. I was so worried for us. second it was going to be someone who wasn't a comedian or comfortable on microphone. Yeah. Yeah. And there are people who aren't comedians and are comfortable on a microphone and you don't want them on a podcast, aka my dad. He's comfortable on a mic.

Oh, yeah. Oh, no. That's no good. That's no good. His boyfriend's name is Mike, I guess. Okay. That's really. No, his son's name's Mike.

Yeah, that's true. That is true. That is true, though. It is true, yes. That is true. His son's name is... Not his boy. Well, he's his boy, and I think they have a pretty good relationship.

So tell me I'm wrong. There was a common between boy and friend. It's his boy, comma friend. I think we should start normalising the use of men calling their friends boyfriends. I agree. Yeah. Oh, yeah, caught up with a couple of boyfriends at the pub last week. Love that.

I'm sorry, I just got a text from my boyfriend. Hang on a second. Just seeing how his sex if he went. Yeah. I see that's what you boys are. Talk about it. Yeah. Boshed.

Oh, another one botched. We did not need a photo. Oh, my God. Oh, boy, that is tough to look at. It's like they took a little too much off. It's like a butterfly to sausage. She's Louise. It'll grow back.

It'll grow back. They do, right? Yeah. No, I like boyfriends. It's nice. We should start saying that more often. Yeah. Because it's like women, my mum.

age, say girlfriends in a platonic way. Yeah. Why not, man, it's our turn. Why don't we get a cute little name for our buddies? I fully agree. Let's do it now. Anyway, that's great to have you in, boyfriend. You too, boyfriend.

And other boyfriend and girlfriend and girlfriend. I like it. Okay. That'll be approval there. I like it. All right. I think you can pull this off. All right.

I'm going to try it. I'm going to spend the next year doing it. And then I'll tally the results. and I'll see if people think it's good or bad by the end. And the results are just people's facial expressions. Either sort of be like, oh, or like a bit of a grimace. Okay. I'm into it.

Yeah. Matt, do you want to explain how this show works? Yes, Cam, you've been on a bunch of times, but in case you've forgotten the way the show works is one of the three of us, or in this case, four of us goes away. Research is a topic. Anything from history. It could be anything at all, recent or...

the opposite of recent, fire history, is what I would it call it? Fire history, yes. Fire history. And then we bring back that knowledge in the form of like a high school report, maybe year 10 level. Cam often goes with a year 12 level. Yeah. And then, yeah, tells it to the rest of the class, i.e. Dave Jess and I,

and we sort of interrupt with dog shit riffs and we're annoying to new listeners. But those listeners hang around for long enough, they start to find us charming. And they enjoy the dog shit riffs after a while. But a lot of people don't get through that barrier, but that's okay. It's a real Stockholm syndrome sort of style where we go for. Yes. This is good. I love that you just kind of explain the entire like parisocial relationship as well, which is lovely.

Yeah. Not enough podcasts are talking about it. No, that's true. We go a bit too hard on it, actually. Yeah, we probably need to knock it off a little bit. But Cam, you are doing the report this week? We always start the report with a question. Do you have a question for us today?

Of course I do. I have a question and the question is as follows. He's writing a question right now. He's ringing a question, yeah. No, I have a question, but. This is a year 12 level padding. This is incredible. This is a filibuster, I would say.

And the book that I read was. And I definitely read it. And also, I had a really hard week. because everyone in my family died. So, in a pretty hectic week. Repeating the questions the best thing of a high school essay. What is the real meaning? My question for all of you is, do you have a favourite town?

Oh. Yes. Let's hear it. Go around the horn. I love bright Victoria, a little riverside, alpine. area town. You get all four seasons up there, the snow on the Alps, the beautiful, uh, autumnal leaves. They're doing all four up there? The swim, swim in the river in the summertime and the spring is, is there as well. Um, I don't know what, what is. Lay in a field of flowers.

Oh, you see, little birds and fresh flowers. Yeah, bright, hot tip, but it's too expensive. I can't afford to go there anymore, but it was a great of my childhood anyway. Everyone else has discovered how good it is. It is like it is now overcrowded, to be honest. Yeah. Hang on a second. That's in favourite town. I've started hot and really, yeah.

A full 180 on Bright. I fully, yeah, I realize that I'm like, I don't want more people going there. Jeez. It sucks. The little birds are awful. Yeah. There's too many of them. Too many.

It's overcrowded with little birds. And the flowers are fuggly and they stink. And everyone's racist. Yeah. It's bad up there What else? Who else have we got? We got any other favourite towns in the house tonight?

I'm probably going to say Don't your crowd work with us? Yeah. What about you look at you? Covering your eyes you can see out into the crowd? What else? Do I see another hand over there maybe? What's your name, mate?

What do you do? Hi there. I'm Dave. I'm a podcaster and my favorite town is probably one comes to mind on the Great Ocean Road, Y, River. Oh, yeah. Lovely spot. My friend Tom had a family beach house that we've spent many a summer down there's

have maybe like you Matt, fantastic memories of it. It's a small place. There's one pub. There's one general store, but there's lots of good times. Wow. And do you want to try and turn people away from it? Yeah. I'd be saying some negative things about it now.

But it is overcrowded and there has been a gas leak. So I wouldn't go there. Sometimes bushfires get close to the Great Ocean Road. So I'd stay away. But speaking of Great Ocean Road, that's why. where my favourite town also is. Oh my god. And the same thing of like my grandparents had a beach house in Apollo Bay and we would go there

my entire life. So just a lot of nice memories. But, you know, to dissuade people, uh, my, I'm chatting to my parents recently, they said that most of the shops are closed now. Yeah. You can't even do shopping. Like all the shops along the main strip, most of them are closed. They can't even get an ice cream anymore.

What's the point? No retail therapy. Yeah, the top pub's not as good anymore. Middle pub's still good, but the top pubs are. not as good, so, you know, don't know. You guys have recently, like, been around the world, yet you all chose incredibly local places. Yeah.

I think we all went very nostalgic, I think. Yeah. Yeah. If I'm not going nostalgia, it's like Dublin or New York for me, I think. Oh, yeah. It'd be great if you all three said New York City. My favorite town, New York City. My favorite small town.

Ooh, probably. Oh, the five boroughs. Yeah. Can't split them. Little, little known town. Ever heard of New York? NYC. The big apple.

I mean, Cam, are we allowed to turn the question back on you? Or is that where you're going with your favorite town? This is a report on your favorite town. I'm going to give a report on a town that I've never been to, but the idea of it is my favorite in the world. That makes sense. Yeah. But if I had to pick a favorite town, I'd probably say New York City. And that's just if I'm put on the spot, I'd probably say that.

But I'd also say, don't go there, guys. The birds suck. Yeah. Time Square is actually like, it's overwhelming. Yeah. All the shops are closed. Yeah, all the shops are closed. Do they get the seasons over there?

They do all four. Yeah. Whoa. I thought that was Broughts thing. I'm like Bright Victoria. It's sort of like the bright of America. Yeah. I've heard that.

I want to read to you, if I may, the, from the brochure of this town that I'm going to tell you about today. This is a, this is a quote from the sales brochure for a soon to be developed residential town. You're hitting bro hard and brochure as well. Well, it's not a sister door, sure. So the boys. Let me read, let me read and tell me if this sounds appealing to you. All right. This is from the sales brochure when they were beginning to, um, whatever, sell plots of land or whatever for this town. Okay. They're once. was a place where neighbors greeted neighbors in the quiet of summer twilight, where children chased fireflies and porch swings provided easy refuge from the cares of the day. The movie house

showed cartoons on a Sunday. The grocery store delivered. Remember that place? Perhaps from your childhood, or maybe just from stories. It held a magic all of its own, the special magic of an American hometown. Welcome to Celebration, Florida. The town is called Celebration. Oh, I like that. First of all, what do you guys think of that as a sales pitch? Would that work on you?

No. I don't want my children chasing fireflies. I want them inside playing the Nintendo switches. I don't want the grocery store to deliver. I want Domino's to deliver. Okay. I like the modern times. You know, like the old.

I thought this place was a little too focused on just one season, the summer. What happened to the winter, to the spring, to the autumn? That's true. The implications are mainly, yeah, that's amazing. Chasing fireflies, I guess that's a summer thing, isn't it? Yeah, and your neighbours only greet you at twilight in summer. Yeah, you're right, I did say summer twilight. Nine months of the year, we're all just pretending the others don't exist.

Yeah, that's rude. Celebration. That sounds like a nightmare celebrating Threnders. 65 days a year. Exhausting. Have any of you heard of this town at all? No. No, I thought both of you've gone negative.

I'm in. I love it. All right. Thank you. I love the sound of it. The porch swing especially was. Oh, I'm back in. Like a hammock?

No, man. Like a hard, you know, like a hard wooden seat that's attached to chains that's attached to the roof. Yeah, I think the problem with this is they're trying to. I want to describe the swing. Yeah. But he needed it. That's the sad thing. They're trying to, they're trying to get a.

us feeling nostalgic about our childhoods in America, which we didn't have, of course. No, that's true. We're probably not the key demo for this, but I'm in. Yeah, like if it said, like, when the birds were small, when the shops were actually open. You started making me think for a second that you were describing Gary Indiana, and I'm like, oh my God, if we finally going to do an episode on Gary, but celebration. That might be my new second favorite. Is Gary Indiana where the Jackson's were from?

Yeah, yeah. Okay, all right. Well, no, we're not going there. We're not going there, folks. We're going to Florida. I'll tell you a little bit about Celebration, Florida. Celebration is a town that still exists to this day. It's in Florida, USA, believe it or not.

And it's like the classic American small town that you are picturing, probably like the type of thing you see in old movies and shit. Mom and Pop stores, white picket fences, tire swings hanging from oak trees. Like if you picture the town square from back to the future, or it's a wonderful life or something like that. Matt is going to need you to explain what a tire swing is, though. So it's like a rubber tire hanging from a rope, which is hanging from a branch, which is growing from a tree. Okay. Yeah, you're like like a rubber hammock.

Yeah. Put it in terms, I understand, hammock terms. It's like a really round hammock. Okay, round rubbery hammock. Gotcha. Celebration Florida is the perfect image of small town 1950s Americana. The only odd thing about it though, and believe it or not, there is a twist coming, is that this town was built entirely from scratch in the year 1996 by a company that you may have heard of called the Walt Disney Company.

Oh. That's a theme park. Not quite. It's a town. Like Walt Disney, the guy, who you may have heard of as being like the man, the company's named after. Oh. His name is, he's like a human hammock for Matt.

I'm trying to describe it. He's like an icy hammock these days. Yeah, nowadays he's like an icy hammock. A frozen hammock. For summer days. Yeah. But back of the day, he was like a flesh and blood hammock. Right, right, right.

And he, this is an horrible rip. Yeah. And we're stuck in it now. We can't get out like a hammock. I think you might have completed it. We just clocked that roof. That might be it. Yeah. He was obsessed with, like, obviously he made cartoons.

You guys have heard of Mickey Mouse. You've heard of Donald the Duck, aka Donald Duck. And Goofy, who's not. a dog technically and many other cartoons that he invented. But he also, as you mentioned, he made theme parks and films and all sorts of stuff. But his big obsession from way back in the 50s and 60s was not just to create entertainment. It was to create the perfect utopian society, which is one of my favorite things about Walt, that he's like a cartoonist who,

I know how you should live He's a funny little drawing Yeah he made a couple of little mouse drawings And then was like You know what Let's change let's change the entire world Based on the way I see it Have you guys

Was that childhood or what was that What's the 50s to him? Like normally people You know it's like People think the music was the best When they were 18 Is it like that? Was he 18 in the 50s?

And that's when he thought The world was perfect. He was nearly dead by then. He died in 67 or 68. So he was nostalgic for like the present almost. So then. He's nostalgic in the moment. That's the best way to be.

Like the first Mickey cartoon was 1928 or something like that. So he's an old man. I should not. I've literally done a report on Disneyland. I would have said his date of birth. I knew. Yeah, you've definitely said. I was still genuinely asking that.

question. Yeah. I also, he was, um, he was like a futurist. I don't know how to else describe it. So he's one of those guys that as technology is becoming like breaking through and is very cutting edge and present, he's right there with it. He'd be, he'd love AI probably. He'd be like, it's the fucking, it's everything. Let's build, let's make everything with AI. And back then in the 50s and 60s, any new technology he was obsessed with and thought, this is the answer. Um, at the same time, he's a big nostalgia. as well. So that's kind of what's interesting. I think we've heard before on this show. Maybe it was your report or we've had Zach Rowan

come on and talk about one of the Disney parks. Yeah. At Disney World, there's like a, there was, like in the 60s what, this is what the future will look like kind of ride. Yeah, Futureland or, no, Tomorrowland. They've got Tomorrowland and they have a ride in there called the World of Tomorrow, which is, I mean, it's so dated now, but that's what's so cool about it. It's like the 60s version of the future where it's all a bit Jetsonsie and a bit like space. race and shit. And it's like,

we'll all live in like bubbled communities and stuff like that. And it's, yeah, kind of like what the Back to the Future 2 was doing, where it's like microwavable meals that are really small and then they become really big and shit like that. That's coming, man.

3D printed pizzas. So this is kind of what his vision for this town was. It was like, and he'd been wanting to do this for a long time, a kind of a world of both tomorrow and yesterday. at the same time. Would you say, Cam, that your man, Elon's sort of, uh, the new Walt Disney? Why is he my man?

Why do you? Oh, sorry, is that only off pod? Has a big Elon head. I love him. I love Elon. Um, yeah, you know what? It's like, it's, we, we probably shouldn't compare Walt Disney with Elon Musk, but they're so fucking similar.

Yeah, because wasn't, like, psycho million, psych billioners? Wasn't Walt Disney also? anti-Semitic? I mean, maybe. Allegedly. You know what? I'm wondering, because we also, sorry to keep, I mean, like Walt himself, I'm getting very nostalgic.

But we also did an episode once. I told the story of Henry Ford building a utopian city. Fordlandia. Fordlandia. So I'm hoping this is a disaster, but it can't possibly be as bad as that was. Fortland is pretty bad. on, you know. Yeah, Fordlandia was nuts. I remember that episode. That's, that's insanity. This doesn't go quite the plan. But maybe it's not Fordlandia bad, but it's still pretty,

because Florida is a toughish climate, I imagine, to build an ideal city in. Exactly. Yeah, I know. But it was, it was, I mean, it's like a tropical climate where there's alligators every like two meters and shit. But it was cheap land. I'll get to that. It was very cheap for him to get. So this is like his dream, his dreams to basically rebuild his childhood town. But it kind of takes a lot of twists and turns because

as I mentioned, he's a futurist or whatever. But anyway, this all began in the 1950s. It ends up existing in 1996. 14 years after the town is founded. So what's 14 years after 96? Anyone good at math? there, Dave. 2020.

This is 2010. 2010. All right. By 2010. I actually think Dave's a bit upset that Matt got there at the same time. No, I think we were both waiting for Cam to be, we thought it was on a bit because it was got an easy stone.

No. I just, I was definitely holding back. We were both like, 2010, Cam was 2010. No, I'm just stupid. Sorry.

By 2010, the town of celebration had gone from utopian paradise to a broken down den of sex parties, lawsuits and violent murder. Whoa. Here we go. And this is not what Walt wanted. No, it's actually quite different to what he wanted. But this is kind of what I.

I love a bit of this. Sex hammocks. Sex, okay. All right, I'm back in. Is that a thing? Sex swings. Sex swings, definitely, yeah. Sex swings are definitely a thing.

Sex hammocks would be, they'd be a nightmare. I can't, I can't quite. Where are you? I've lost her. Sounds dangerous, isn't it? And that's part of what's fun. Yeah, yeah. That's why they're going to be a big hit.

I know you guys have done episodes on Disneyland. Have any of you guys been to Disneyland? No. Yes. Yes. I was speaking for all of us. Two out of three. And what do you thoughts?

Well, we went to Disneyland when I was eight years old, and I feel like that's like perfect time of life to go. I also went to Disneyland in Paris in my early 20s. Still good. Now I'm not interested anymore. You wouldn't go. Whoa, shit. Dave, when did you go?

Also, when I was eight years old, so a similar time to Jess, but I don't know if our families ever crossed over. We assume so. But I'd still be keen to go again. I'd be keen to go to this. Celebration Town based on what Cam was just saying. Based on the sex hammocks I'm hearing about. I know, I was more thinking about the murder.

That'd be fun to try out. So that's something you can do there. You pay your fee. Yeah, it's like Westworld. You can kill anyone who lives there and it's legal. No, I, I, would it be, I wouldn't describe myself as a Disney adult, but I've gone to all but one of the,

Disneyland theme parks in the last like six years. Which one's missing? Hong Kong, I think, is it? Is that the one? Is it, it's not in Hong Kong. Where's the Disneyland? I've been to Tokyo. I've been to California.

I've been to Paris. I've been to Disney World. Hong Kong I haven't been to. Yeah, nice. Yes, that's the one I would go to. And I love them. I fucking love Disneyland. I love Disney as well.

I like, I'm not. I don't watch all the movies and stuff, but all the ones from our childhood, I still have a lot of love for and can pop them on. All the ones from before our childhood, I can watch any time. I fucking love Mary Poppins. I watched that recently.

And I was like, this is sick. I need to make one of these every year. It needs to be a Poppins universe. This is so good. They're getting, could have done a few of it, though. There's a couple.

The author. They did a new one. I've seen that. Don't you worry. I've seen them more. I also love the Peter Pan shit. Actually, I had this, my wife was making fun of me when we're in Disneyland, Tokyo, because I was obsessed with the Peter Pan ride, which is four kids, for sure.

But I was like, it's just magical. And my wife was like, you have the same pop culture taste as Michael Jackson. You're obsessed with Diana Ross and the Supremes and Peter Pan. And this is not a good sign. That's such a good bird from your life. That is so funny. I was like, Jesus Christ. I do that.

I love it. Isn't that the most apt thing for a boy who's never grown up to like Peter Pan? You know, it makes chance. It's just like I get emotional what I think about Peter Pan. You know, at the end of the cartoon Peter Pan when the family are reunited back in London and they're looking at the window at the pirate ship flying away into the, the sky towards Neverland. And the father says to his children, I remember seeing something like that when I was a young

boy. And the implication is that every child gets to go to Neverland when they're young, but they forget about it when they get older. I'm fucking tearing up now thinking about it. It's like the idea of like innocence being lost and all that shit and growing up. Oh, fuck. I love it. And that's kind of why I love Disneyland because it's like purely made for to tap into the joy in

the imagination that you have. had when you were a child and that you are forced to lose as you get older. But also, I'd never really thought about it, but that implies that Peter Pan has that a mortal's curse. He sees people get old and die generation after generation. Yeah, man. It's a tragedy. That's another reason I love it is the melancholy underneath.

It is like, this is so fucking sad. And it's like the darkness and the light are the things I love about. Disney and Disneyland. I like the bright, shiny, happy shit and the fairy dust and all that stuff. But I also love that underneath all of that, it's quite a fucking sinister organization and that maybe Walt's anti-Semitic

and maybe his head is frozen on a block of ice somewhere in Florida. And there's all these weird lawsuits and they've stolen intellectual property. And then there's all those rumors. I remember Zach was talking about it on that Disney. episode about like tunnels underneath Disneyland and all these little rules like no one, no one ever dies on a Disneyland property. They, if someone is dying, they immediately take them outside the gates so that they die

outside of Disneyland rather than on Disney. Got to keep the streak. Quick throw over the fence. It's also a little bit of the ground, I swear. Wheelbarrowing them over the boundary. That's kind of what I love about it. Like it's, and that's what I love about this place celebration that I'm going to tell you about because it's like, to me, that's America.

It's like incredibly optimistic and bright and hopeful, but at the same time, on the other flip side of the coin, it's fucking gross and dark and weird and terrifying. And that's kind of what I want to get into today. It's like the hubris of Walt, the hubris of a man who made a few cartoons and thought he could build a utopian society. So today I'm going to tell you about what happened in the shadow of Disneyland. What do you think of that as a title? That's really good. Love it. Love it. That's really good. I just, really good. You were, you were crying at the end of Peter Pan, but I was like feeling something there. Yeah, yeah, you're bowling. Yeah, I'm like, fucking bowling your

eyes out. Dave's crying. I'm so scared. I just want to quickly say as well that like, I love the magic of Disneyland and I love like the shows and then how they do things. I'm just not a big theme park person because I get motion sickness. And I went on one ride at Dollywood and it was a bit match for me. Oh, no. So, my big fear is that that'll happen to me one day. But I hope it never does because I'm a coaster head from way back. Oh, I love a coaster. Yeah, I went on the, uh, the, uh, lunar park, uh, or the scenic railway.

Oh, yeah. Last year. That'll make you tummy drop. That was, that's great fun. I mean, it, because it's, uh, you know, it's rickety. And you know those ones where you're like, this could crash. Yep. That gives an extra element because the dips aren't so big.

But I'm so jealous. I'd love to go on every roller coaster. But I just never think to do it. I'm never like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to plan ahead to in a couple of months. I'm going to take a trip to go on a roller coaster. It's just not the way my brain works, unfortunately. That's not the only thing you're doing.

It's not like you're planning a trip just to go on a roller coaster. Yeah. I really think that we should next time we do a Brisbane live show. Have the next day before our... Three-passed, super-part? You should definitely do that. You really should. And Jess, I'll hold the bags.

Which is what my mum always did. Yeah, I'll hold the spew bags for myself and your backpacks, and I'll just eat fairy floss. I'll be good. Do you eat a lot of fairy foss normally? Because that might be part of it. That couldn't possibly be it. I think it might be part of it. Just hearing it now, you know, like a non-biased person, I think that's part of it.

But anyway, that's just my two sense. I don't think that's true, you guys. Judge Cam is in session. Judge Cam is in session. That's not what they says it. Court is in session. Cam's court is in session. There it is.

I did it all of that out. Oh my God, Cam's court. Can I pitch that as a segment on this show? We have a disagreement. We just cross to you. Order. All right. Let me begin my report.

All right. So I've talked a little bit about Walt already and how he was kind of, you know, an animation superstar, he'd won multiple Oscars by the mid-60s. He created the theme parks. He was dominating TV at two TV shows, the wonderful world of Disney and the Mickey Mouse Club, which had begun in the 50s. So naturally, of course, Walt set his sights on a brand new goal,

which was rebuilding the world in his image. It'd always been really into industry and futurism, which I talked about earlier, cutting-edge technology. And you can kind of see that in the parks. You know, there's animatronics for a thing that they kind of, like, pushed, you know, and made, maybe, like, made better by their use in the parks. The ride technology is the same. But by the 60s, futurism was a full on total obsession with him, beyond the parks, beyond the cartoons. And he got really into this real mid-century idea of urban planning.

So, which is so weird, like, like for a fucking cartoonist guy to be all of a sudden. and be like, you know what, architecture and planning streets and shit, that's the next step for me. I guess once you've won like 10 Oscars, what else is there to do? Did he maybe got a taste for it with the theme parks as well? Because isn't that like there's like American Boulevard or whatever? Totally. USA way. Main street, USA or whatever.

And like, yeah, totally. And planning those parks is probably his gateway into being like, what if I could do this with the rest of America? There's like a time playing SimCity and being like, you know what? I'm pretty good at this. Yeah. Shit. I mean, I had probably had that exact same thought when I was playing the Sims as a kid.

Like, man, maybe I could be an architect. I'll just build heaps of houses with no doors and buy places all around every wall. Has you don't want you to be an architect. You want to be a serial killer. Yeah, I want to murder people. Oh, you know where you should go. I know a town. This is probably like, you know, around the mid-50s or whatever is when he gets obsessed with urban planning and starts getting involved with like California Council and stuff like that and starting to like plan new and better ways that they could redesign the city.

I guess this is like, this is after World War II, the suburbs are starting to blow up as like a desirable place for people to live. After the war, I think a lot of people don't really want to live in the city anymore. families are moving sort of between the country and the city suburbs emerge. Walt gets obsessed with the idea of the suburbs and also he's getting older so he's reflecting on his perfect hometown where he grew up and he comes up with this idea for a master planned town, a place that he calls a community of tomorrow, a kind of new American city that's going to blend the sort of space race futurism. technology heavy stuff that he loves with the nostalgia he has for his own hometown.

He made a film that he then gave out to potential investors. It's called the experimental prototype community of tomorrow, aka Epcot. I've heard of Epcot. Yeah, they use that word in other Disney parks now and stuff, but this is the first time he's used the word. Epcot. And the idea of this film was to attract investors into his plan and to like give him some cash to make this community of tomorrow. The film is up on YouTube. If anyone wants to watch it, you can see Walt's entire vision for the town, including like very detailed animations

and blueprints. All right. So, but like, is it like a Disney style animation? Like Mickey Mouse is like, hi, welcome to the future. There's like, uh, Tinkerbell. Tinkerbell's in it. And she like, he's, It starts with Walt in his office and he's like, oh, hello there. I'm Walt Disney. You might have heard of me like he's doing this Troom McClure shit. And then Disney, Tinkerbell flies in and he has a little chat with her. This is like an animated Tinkerbell. And then she sprinkles fairy dust.

Yeah, it's not the real, not the real Tiberbell. They couldn't get her. And then it goes into these animations that show his like visions for the town. I can tell you. you a bit about his visions for the community of tomorrow if you would like to hear it right now. Sure. Number one, tell me how you feel about this. No roads.

There are no roads in the community of tomorrow. That sounds good. So he's just, it's all public transport. Pretty much. That sounds like, that's great. There's one from one. Fields of grass everywhere, parkland that connects everything. There are no roads on the surface of the town.

But there are an underground network of tunnels. Cam, where we're going, well, we need roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads on the surface. But we need tunnels. Hundreds of miles of interconnected tunnels. We do need lots of interconnected tunnels that connect everyone's house to the city, but also out of town so people can leave for weekend trips and stuff like that. But no roads on the surface.

They've got to, what, put it up? on their mining gear. I'm picturing of like with a headlamp on crawling through tunnels. That's right. You can get anywhere. They're like car. They're like road-sized tunnels. Like you can drive under there.

You're not crawling. Crawling through Earth. We're just crawling down the peninsula for the weekend. It'd be gorgeous. Disney says in the video, in this town, the pedestrian is king, which I like. I like it. Okay. Yes.

interconnected tunnels underneath. There's also, and this is mainly for Jess who is worried about the shops being closed or not getting to the shops. What about the shops? If you do need to get to the shops, don't worry. There is an elaborate monorail system that criss-crosses the entire town.

Because I have to get to the shops. That's all taking care of. You've got to get to the shops. Okay, I'm on board. I didn't like the tunnels and the no roads, but as long as the shops are open and I can get to the shops. Yeah.

And I'll pop on the monorail. Get to the shops. And you can also get to your place of work, which will be in the center of town. The entire city is designed like a wheel with all the housing on the outside and the CBDs in the very middle. But in separating those two is a place called the Green Belt, which is parkland and leisure activities, lakes and escorts, sports field, etc. Sounds a bit like Adelaide. It's designed a lot like Adelaide and Canberra probably, a master plan city. And the wheel, cam, can I just double check?

Does it rotate? No, it is fixed. It's like a Bay-Marie city sort of thing. No, no, no, no, no, it's fixed. She's a Bay-Marie city? Yeah, what's a Bay-Marie? Like a lazy Susan city? Lazy Susan city.

Bay-Mu-Rae, that's the thing that keeps Jimson's hot. Bay-Marie. It's actually agreed. You're constantly baking in heat. You're slowly crisping, crisping up. Why would I have got those two words? I don't know. The words don't sound similar.

But the two things are not at all similar. I think it's because you're trying to sound fancy. You were trying to sound smart and fancy. So you went for Bain Marie instead of Lazy Susan. I don't ever think I said, I don't even know what the word is. I said Bayer Marie, which isn't even, you're saying it's Bain Marie? I didn't even know. Well.

My grandfather served in the Bay of Marie. He asked a lot of good men to that buffet. So, Cam, is this a, uh, city like a Bay of Marie, mate? Sorry to stop. Sorry to budding here. I've got a really good question. So, well, actually, here we go.

That's a perfect way for me to lead to the CBD, which has a big food district. Does the beast tend for? Bayer Marie. Bayer Marie. The food district will feature food from every part of the world. In fact, every, each little area of the CBD is designed to look like a different country, like a different part of the world. So you have your Europe section

and like your Egypt section and all that shit with all different restaurants that cater to that. So far, this obviously sounds amazing. This sounds awesome. I'm keen. Just knowing that he might be a little bit of a bigot, like him segregating parts of the city does feel potential. It depends, not knowing what he's trying to do there.

And also, I got a bit nervous before when you said he had a master plan. I'm like, God damn it. I don't want to lead you towards fascism. Okay. But I will tell you the next few details of the community of tomorrow. And if you want to draw your own comparisons, feel free. No one living in Epcot would own their own land or home.

You rent from the Disney organization. And as a result of being a renter, you have no municipal voting rights. Okay. You don't get to vote. Okay. You don't get to vote who is in charge. Also, because you have no voting rights, the Disney corporation have access to your home anytime they want in order to update the technology in your house. Because technology will be moving rapid fast.

Say or not. That's actually one of the best things about being a renter is like when something breaks down in my house, I just like tell the property manager. So it would be great. to be like, they just come in and replace my TV with a new TV in the middle of the night. They kicked down the door at 3am, they pop your water bed that you're sleeping on and say, no, we've decided there's a better bed. And I'd say, thank you so much. And the good thing is, Jess, you wouldn't even have to tell them because they'll be watching.

I have a feeling. Yeah. They do say in the video that there will be like speaker systems in every home so that they can communicate with you. It's, uh, yeah, this is. Which is awesome. It sounds like, yeah, that author that Dave likes. Not in 1984.

984. That's not the 84 loves for sure. That author that Dave likes. They all have a TV and speakers are in their room where the government can talk to them. I forget if it's Austin Wells, H.D. Wells or the other Wells Fargo, whatever the other Wells one is. Which one is it? George Orwell. George Orwell.

It wasn't one of the media that I mentioned. There's a well in there. There's a way. I had also already said George Orwell. Oh, well, sorry, I don't listen to women. Oh, well, sorry. Oh, well. Is that a thing in America that renters don't get to vote?

It feels like he was on first. In Florida, renters don't get to vote. Is that true? That's wild. I mean, I don't know if that's true now, but at least it was something to tell you that recently. So if you live in Epcot, okay, here's some good news. Every adult living in Epcot will be employed by the Disney Corporation. You do what we tell you to do.

Thereby preventing the formation of slums and ghettos. That's official language. And unions, I reckon. Unions, probably. No retirees. If you retire, you're kicked out. Everyone has to have a job. That's anti-Florida, isn't it?

Everyone retires in Florida. Yeah. Well, not here. You'll either work at the Magic Kingdom theme park or the central shopping district or the hotel convention center, the airport, the welcome center or an industrial park, which I assume is like building fucking roller coasters and shit. As Disney says in the movie, everyone living in Epcot will have the responsibility to maintain this living blueprint of the future.

So yeah, he has this vision for a world where we're all working together, kind of in a socialist way, I assume. It feels like they're just performing a little play. Yeah, yeah And it becomes more like that To the longer I mean, you know, we'll get to it We'll get to it

I'll give you one more detail Truman Show sort of thing Yeah, totally totally I'll give you one more detail About the about Epcot And you can tell me if this like seals the deal For how you feel About this place

Whether you would buy property Or sorry rent property from there Whether you'd like to live there And I'll read directly from a transcript From the video This entire 50 acres of city streets and buildings will be completely enclosed

in this climate controlled environment there's a dome shoppers, theatre goers and people just out for a stroll will enjoy ideal weather conditions protected day and night from rain, heat, cold and humidity. So what we're saying for summer all year round? It's a dome, it's a domed city. It's actually a bioderm.

Sick. This, this, this sounds little insane, Cam. Has it been into it? Why aren't you into it? I actually do kind of like that bit. Yeah, I like the idea of a domed. I don't think I would want to live there, but I like the idea of a domed town you can like visit or a domed area.

Yeah. Like if there was just like a domed area that we could all go to and it was. fun and you go shopping and fucking eat from everywhere in the world. Fantastic. Are you describing one of like many Middle Eastern cities where it's so hot outside that everything is indoors and like, um, I'm also just, I've realized I'm just describing like a shopping center. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. In doors. I just, I want to go somewhere where I could, I don't know, there'd be like some sort of food area that has like a variety of different cuisines. But I could also see a movie. if I wanted to. What sort of shape would you put the food in?

Would it be circular? Like a like a cul-de-sac or a court sort of enclosed? Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Corts an interesting word. Cairnscourt. Caird. Hey, that's what you could do there. I'd like to be protected from rain and have any kind of shop I might like.

But yeah, maybe I could see a movie or play some laser tag or something. Or go to like a supre or something like that. Is it blue scott? Like, is it clear? the dome, how do they make that work? Did he figure that technology out or is he like hoping they could figure that out? They didn't figure it out. In the animations, it's a bubble.

Like it's like exactly what you're picturing, just a glass bubble over this entire town. But then in the drawings and the blueprints, it looks more like a ceiling, which is even creepier, like a kind of flat roof over the entire town, which is gross. Like you want it to be a bubble. You don't want like a flat ceiling. You don't want to be like a casino with the sky painted on. Yeah. You don't end up really sick from no natural light.

Yeah, true. And no, just no like elements at all. Yeah. Like living in air conditioning all the time. Everyone's got a dry throat. Yeah. So it never came to be, obviously. Walt died not long after this film was made to try and attract investors.

He was diagnosed with cancer not long after the not long after they shot the film. Then it came out and then a couple of years later he passed away. But he was very serious about it. He was so serious that he bought a plot of land in Florida that is twice the size of Manhattan. Whoa. So it's like 100 square kilometers or thereabouts to house his Epcot project. He didn't want to draw attention to the, I love this. This is part of the sinister shit that I love.

He didn't want to draw attention to the fact that the Disney company was buying this much land. And he also knew that if people knew Disney was buying the land, they would charge more probably. So he created like 20 shell organizations with fake names to get the land piece by piece over a period of like five years at the cheapest rates possible, just buying from farmers and families and stuff like that. There's a big list of all the names on Wikipedia. are they have names like Compass East Corporation and the Reedy Creek Ranch Corporation, Bay Lake properties. There's a whole list of them and almost like rubbing salt in the worms. All those names of fake companies are now the names of fake businesses in the Disneyland

Main Street America theme parks. Like when you walk down Main Street, USA Street, all the businesses are called like Compass East Ice Cream. and whatever, shit like that. Oh my God. Just rubbing it in. Like, look at you, you fucking idiots. You sold us.

You sold us your land. Yeah, we stole your land milk bar. Yeah, exactly. So they bought all this land like over a period of years sneakily. And then once they had got all of it, they consolidated all the shell companies into one company called the Reedy Creek Improvement District Board, who act as basically a dictatorship over this. entire region of Florida and anyone who still lives there, anyone who didn't sell their land

to Disney, they now live basically under the ruling of the Disney Corporation. They run the council, the fire department, the police, the hospitals, waste management. You pay your taxes to Disney if you live in this area, which is insane. Like, it's a privately owned almost state. Like, it's bigger than New York. York, which is, you know, my favorite town. Yeah. And it's quite big, your favorite town.

It's quite big. Yeah, we all went for quite small, quiet towns. You went for quite a big town. Yeah, this is as big as my, my favorite town. New York City. So Disney is like the government of this part of Florida. Wow. And much like the Epcot plan, if you live there, you don't own your home.

You rent it from Disney. and as I mentioned earlier, if you're a renter in Florida, you don't get voting rights. So pretty much anyone who lives there just lives under this like Mickey Mouse dictatorship. The people that do live there and there are very few now call it like the Mickey Mouse Vatican basically. Like it's just you live in your own private state where you get no say. Let me see what else I've got on this place. This is so surreal. It's even weirder, man.

So there's all these weird loopholes that Disney exploited in order to do this and in order to exist as a small government in this part of Florida. Because you can't just be a dictatorship. It's not like a sovereign state or whatever. You still need to be voted in. You still need to have your council or whatever voted in by the public. So if you look at this player, it's called, what did I say? It was called the Rue.

Reedy Creek Improvement District. You can look that up on Wiki. And there's, there are people that live there that are like not employed by Disney, but not many. There's like 24 residents who live in this entire big area that are not Disney employees. Wow. They're all family members of people that do work for Disney who have just been like basically bust in and they live in these little McMansions.

There's one street that people, that is a residential street. in this area. It's called Royal Oak Court, Cam's Court. And I looked it up on Google Earth because I wanted to see what it looks like. It's just one little cul-de-sac and there's nine houses that are like these prefab McMansion-style houses. And as I mentioned, only like 24 people live there. And they've clearly just like the cousins and aunties and uncles of whoever the head Disney executives are or whatever. And they're like, come and live here. You live in a big house. you live right next to Disney World and your only job basically

you get a pool, you get all this amazing amenities your only job is that once a year you have to vote for us to be your council again. Wow. What you have to vote. Well, they're the only people that can vote. Oh, right. So it's just like, yeah, you live there.

Your job is basically to just keep voting us in. And if they don't, I guess it all falls apart. I guess it falls apart. Yeah. I mean, that would be a cool movie to watch. like just the one holdout on the like Disney property or whatever. Here you go, I'm voting for myself. I'm going up as a,

and I'm going to get Bay and Marie's in everyone's house. Dude, you probably could, you probably could hold out and ask for more things. Just be like, can I get, can I get a Baymarie in the kitchen? And they'd be like, all right, but you got to fucking vote. Okay. Yeah, yeah, you probably could. Can we call these, um, uh, Mickey,

Mickey Mansions? I don't know that anything. That's something. Is that someone? I thought of it before and then, you know, I thought I'd say it now. Well, better late than never, I reckon. This slight lag is really killing me, Cam. Sorry, man.

I've got quips to interrupt you with. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'll shut the fuck up for a bit, I promise. All right, let me... Before, though, before I do, I was just thinking, aren't you about to do a tour? I am. What's the go with that?

What do you mean? What's the go with it? What's the show called? I forget. My show is called Broken Records, and I'm touring it around this goddamn country. Yeah, all the big cities, all your favorite towns. I'm doing all my favorite towns.

Not New York, though, but all my other favorite towns, like Sydney and Melbourne and... Brisbane and Canberra and Newcastle and Perth, hometown show. Adelaide and Hobart and Launceston. Oh, sick. And probably maybe some others, maybe bright.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've done shows and bright. It's a, they've got a nice little theatre there. Okay. Put in a word for me.

It might be a bit small for Cam James, but I don't know. No, no, God, no, not in bright. I'd be lucky to get four people there.

Be lucky to get enough to vote for me to be a you know, council member. But yeah, I'm excited to see this show. I never got to see your last show, which everyone absolutely raved about, but it was always sold out when I went to get a ticket. I literally bought up every ticket that wasn't sold. Well, that's a no, I was there at Comedy Republic and they're like, no, this is fully booked out.

I didn't realize. So it was just empty seats in there. Yeah, yeah, it's just me sort of crying in an empty room. I wish I knew you were there. I'm looking forward to seeing it this time. Can you just hold me one of those empty seats hold for me if it's all right? I'll hold you one. I'll hold you one.

But it is still going to be me crying if that's okay. That's kind of what I do these days. I used to do like funny songs and tell stories and jokes, but nowadays I'm really getting into like scream therapy and crying. You watch the end of Peter Pan, then you go on stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just describe the plot of Peter Pan to all of them through sobs. Hey, Cam, you'd probably be interesting.

There's me and Dave are also doing shows. Come on, are you kidding me? Yeah, yeah. That's amazing. Tell me about it. Tell me more about it. Hitting up some towns. Yeah.

Where are you going? Well, I don't think I, well, I'm going to, at this stage, I think I'm booked in for Adelaide, Melbourne, Brisbane. But I'm sure I'll be going to Sydney. I'm sure I'll be going to Perth. Yeah, show you fast. I would like to be on a Hobart. And Bright, you know, if you're listening, Mayor of Bright. And we know you are.

Get on the blower. My show is called Bad Boy, which I think is pretty apt. Yeah. Dave, what's yours again? My show is Dave Warnocky dates the entire audience part two. Me and Sammy Peterson and interactive, fun little show going to Melbourne, Sydney and Adelaide. And we're also doing our five hundred of the episode coming up, Cam James. Can you believe that?

Live at the Capitol Theatre in Melbourne. I actually don't. I don't believe it. It's true. No, I think I'm being lied to. Cam. I think you're telling me lies. We're not.

Why would we? Tell me sweet little lies. No, we're not. What is it, April 26th? That's right, big Saturday night show. Can't wait for it. Only 25 days after April 1st, April Fool's Day. I think it's a joke.

I think it's a prank. You've got 30 days after April Fool's Day to pull off a big prank. I think so. That's the rule. It's April Fool's month. That's how I celebrate in my family. It's just how I was raised. And we're back.

How was that? That was really good. That would actually be seamless. Especially for the people on the Patreon on the Patreon, they'll be like, what? What happened for what?

Where were you? Where did they go? We all went out. We all went out for a little bit. And we had a milkshake and now we're back. It's really nice. And now we're full of milk. And we feel sick.

Milk microt. We all for really sick. Not good for talking a lot. It's hot today as well. Yeah. 32 degrees. That's not a milkshake. kind of day. It's curdling on the way down. All right, I'm going to come back in with a death

for you guys. Excellent. Actually, and as a warning, I know last time I was on, I talked about some murders and some deaths as well, and it was a little dark. There's a little bit of that coming up as well. And we'll try to keep it not too dark and disgusting, but unfortunately, you know, there's a few dark and disgusting things coming up, but I'll tone it down. And I'll say it with a twinkle in my eyes so you'll know that there's a lightness and... Yeah, yeah. There's a lightness within you. Yeah.

Yeah. But there's a darkness and a disgustingness about the world. Definitely. Listener should picture Tinkerbell saying it to them. Yeah. I might soften it a little. Get to Tinklebell. That'd be nice.

Did we get the real one? Yeah, we got the real one. No, no, no. I don't think we could afford the real one. Julia Roberts. Yeah, Julia Roberts. She'll always be my Tinkerbell. Mm. Same.

All right. Everyone shut the fuck up. because Walt Disney died in 1966 before the Epcot dream could come true. But when he died, he made everyone, including his brother, Roy Disney,

promise that they would build the Epcot community of tomorrow. And then he did die, and they all were like, we shouldn't do that. Honestly, we shouldn't do that. Walt,

we promise, fingers crossed behind their back. No, what? Well, it's insane. We have no plans. We can't make a big dome, Walt. You know what I'd be saying on my deathbed? I'd turn to my husband and I'd say,

keep the plants alive. And I know he wouldn't. But he would say, of course. Of course, darling. In your honour, I'll keep those plants alive. I'll keep watering that fiddle leaf. Yes. I'll let it fully dry out and then I'll drench it as they're supposed to be cared for, apparently.

And I'll wipe the leaves every now. Yes. But he'd just come home and just piff them off the balcony. Yeah, 100%. So, yeah, of course you'd say, yes, we'll build it. Yeah, of course, mate. You just close your eyes and rest. And then he's gone and you go, well, he's dead.

And you go, well, obviously not doing that, right? That's insane. I'm not building a fucking town under a bubble. We were all just appeasing a dying man, right? Yeah. But they did own all that land and it kind of sat there for a while. And then in the 70s, they instead took a fair chunk of it and built the Disney World Florida Park on it. And in honour of Walt, there is a small world in Disney World called Epcot, which is based on Walt's futurism ideas and features a lot of those things like monorails and underground tunnels and climate-controlled environments, aka indoors.

Do you think they built that just to appease like his ghost to stop hauntings? Or the head. They're like, well, we got to go tell the head how Epcot's going every now and then. So they didn't end up building the town, but they did still own like a significant chunk of land. The Disney World Park only takes up like less than third of it. There's so much more land that they own. And it just kind of sat there for years and years and years. Nothing ever happened with it.

It was just this land and. municipal area that was owned by Disney and that Disney were like the cops of basically. But then in the 90s, Disney got a new CEO, a guy called Michael Eisner, whose whole MO was like returning Disney to the glory days, like make Disney great again sort of shit. He wanted to, he was the guy that brought in the like Disney Renaissance of those cartoons that were big when we were kids like the Lion King and Beauty and the Beast and shit like that. he kind of modelled himself on Walt. I don't think he was racist, but he was like old world vibes.

And he revived the idea of rebuilding a town, of building a town, much like Walt's vision. But his is much smaller, which brings us finally to Celebration Florida, the place that I tease at the very beginning by reading from the brochure. So in the 90s, they make Celebration Florida. as I mentioned earlier, it's kind of modeled on like the 1940s, 1950s,

midwestern small town. It looks like the Truman Show. It's like a perfectly designed master community. Again, it is wheel shaped, which you'd be into Matt, kind of like Bay Marie sort of style. Every house is designed basically to look exactly the same. I think there's like five or six styles of house that you can have. but there is matching pastel color schemes to all their houses.

There's an oak tree in every front yard. The grass is all mowed by the council to be exactly the same, like regulation height across the entire town. Any modifications you make to your property will be subject to town council approval, aka Disney approval. Or what else did they do? Oh yeah, there's no retail chains. there's only corner stores and milk bars and mom and pop stuff.

I'm out. Yeah, yeah. There's no supre. No, thank you. Sorry. No, there's mom and pop supre. Yeah, mom and pop store selling slutty little t-shirts. Yeah, you can still buy your slaty little shirts, but from mom.

Well, they're trying to make it look like a mom and pop store, but it's all owned by Disney. Is that right? It's all owned by Disney. Everything is like. This huge corporation, yeah. It's like if you, you know, you've been to a Disneyland, you know, like the Main Street USA style place where everything looks like it's been there since the 50s, but it's new.

And yeah, it's just like a fake version of an old, like of yesterday. They've got those wide streets that are like bricked with red bricks, you know. And there's ye old style lanterns that light up the street. And this is, it starts getting like, like real creepy at this point for me. There's Musak, like 1940s Musak that plays on a constant loop throughout the town.

No. And you're going to hate this as well. During the holidays, fake snow shoots out of cannons on the rooftops to make it look like it's snowing. And Christmas carols play from hidden speakers that are hidden in trees and bushes all around the town. Yeah, it's two theme park.

It's basically. a theme park. But you're living in it so you can't escape because you can leave a theme park. You know, you get to go home at the end of the day. Yeah, well, this is your home. You live in the theme park basically. It became available to buy or like rent land in. Like it became open to the public in 1995 and it was so huge. Like they put out that brochure thing that I read from earlier and advertising everywhere and just thousands and thousands of of people from all around America were like scrabbling to join this small community. Now, in order to make sure that their town wasn't just going to be white people,

they wanted it to be ethnically diverse. Well, that's not, I don't think that's true to what Walt wanted. We don't know for sure. We don't know for sure. I saw both Matt and Dave looked nervous when I started talking. Oh, what's she going to say here? What's not at all? I think that's totally right.

And a lot of the people who, whether consciously or subconsciously, when they are going, I dream of living in the 1950s. They're thinking of town of only white people. So I think all these thousands of people go on there, whoa, whoa, whoa. I thought we were talking about the 1950s here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's mega shit, basically. But they wanted to, allegedly, they wanted to avoid it being, um,

a racist or whatever town. So they made a randomized lottery system for the first 400 houses. So you entered and you'd be randomly chosen. It wouldn't, you know, wouldn't be based on how much money you make or your racial makeup or whatever. So they did this random lottery. And 95% of the winners were white and Christian. Really? So I don't know what a character.

It was a random laundry guys. What are the chances? But if 95% of the people applying a white and Christian, they're, geez, Louise. But like 100% that, they're the people who are going to be attracted to getting in a time machine of the 1950s. Yeah, totally. Exactly. That's really what it is.

Their life, will there be a clan set up already? Or do we have to start our own? Is it BYU a clan? And the hoods come in pastel colors. You match your house. It's very cute. Yeah, so obviously that's really what it's catered for. Because it's like based on one white guy's memory of his childhood.

Yeah, yeah. Of course, it's like, yeah, I want to live there as well. It's going to appeal to people just like him. Yeah, exactly. Pretty much, so the first few years that the town is open, it's popular. People seem to like it. People, it's all massive Disney fans, obviously, that have. there. It's not normal people. It's like people that want to live in Disneyland, so they're all

pretty happy. But, you know, three or four years into the town existing, the cracks begin to emerge. So I'll bullet point of the cracks here for you. The cost of living was 60% higher than the rest of Florida. So that was beginning to be a strain on people financially. The buildings in town were starting to fall apart because they weren't really built by real construction. companies they'll build by people that make fucking theme parks so they're not really designed to actually be like lived and worked in and

it all looks great but it's just like falling apart on the X like what's installation what's that? You don't need it this is climate control and also because there's no like real government because this is in a part of Florida where Disney is the government

there's no building inspectors and stuff and like odes that need to be kept So the buildings start to fall down and start to get shoddy and people are getting injured. And so the townsfolk like band together and try to file lawsuits against Disney for a lack of building maintenance. But none of that is going ahead because like Disney of the government as well so they can say like fuck you. That is, well, how frustrating that would be. I still can't get my head around it though. Why wouldn't Disney want to make it a good place to live?

Is Disney short of cash? It's just too much work. All of a sudden they're like running a town and this is way too much for them. Dealing with real people like 24 hours a day. They like the idea of it, but they can't, they don't want to spend too much time because it doesn't sound like we wouldn't be like a multi-billion dollar moneymaker like the theme parks or the movies. They're losing money on it actually because they're like it's full of really great technology. All the schools, this is in the 90s, like 96, 97.

all the schools have every kid gets a Macintosh computer and shit like that. Like it's really like a lot of money is being spent on the education and the hospitals and all that stuff. So they're just losing cash. Wow. What kind of subjects are they? Is it like Mickey Mouse is like a period three? History of Mickey. It's so weird.

My car hontas. My grandpa. The Disney version. Like, is that... My grandpa described my arts degree as a Mickey Mouse degree when I got into that. Do a Mickey Mouse degree? There's a huge alligator population.

Whoa. Because it was built on previously unlivable swamp land. So there's, um, heaps of animal control issues involving, like, alligators getting into people's houses and the school and stuff like that. So that's a problem as well. Oh, I love this one. there's a man-made pond in the middle of the town

kind of like in Back to the Future 2 where there's that big pond in the middle of the town square that becomes informally known as death pond because of a high number of car crashes directly into the pond they really shouldn't have built a ramp next to it well don't they know they don't work on water cars don't work on water

and also like people started to go a bit mad because rumors were like, no one knew who to trust in this town because people started spreading rumors and I don't know how much of this is true that every hospitality worker and retail worker was secretly like a Disneyland cast member like playing a character of a hospitality worker. So no one really knew who to trust. They're like, is this a real guy or are you like, are you playing a character right now? I talk to this guy every morning, he makes my latte. And I don't even know if Jerry's his real name.

Yeah, exactly. So, for doctors and psychiatrists. I asked Jerry to be my best man. I don't even think I know he's a guy. It's full Truman show shit. Yeah. He's wearing a goofy costume as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know, is that really him? Is he a dog-like person or what? You're right. Psychiatrist, gyatologist. It's the same guy. I went on a Reddit forum a while ago for, for someone who was like, I lived in Celebration Florida in the 2000s,

AMA. And all the questions were like, was there just like Disney characters walking around your town? She was like, no, it was like a real town. Like everything was real or whatever. And then she started posting photos of it.

And it's like fully just looks like a theme park. It's so weird. But yeah, they didn't go so far as having like Mickey Mouse teaching at the school or whatever. But still people were freaked out. Like people, I guess after a few years,

The novelty is starting to wear off. And everyone's kind of like, what the fuck is this place? Like, what, we live here and we don't, we barely know anyone. It's super weird. And it's like, falling apart. Falling apart. It's like a prefab place. It doesn't feel real.

And like, it's this fake snow shaving cream falling from the sky. Do they have people, do they have people clean that up or every year to there's add more shaving cream? I guess it like, I don't know. I guess it gets rained away or something. I don't really. know some guy comes out and hoses it away um so people are starting to go mad within the first few years of it and as i mentioned they try to sue disney because it's falling into disrepair but

nothing ever comes of that people are starting to get mad then in 2010 which is 14 years after 1996 oh yeah yeah this is where it gets a little bit dark um celebration has its first murder The very first murder in this idealistic, like, paradise town takes place. A local man was found bludgeoned to death in his apartment. The murder weapon was an axe. And the town mourned him. But then after he died, a few days later, it was discovered that the man was a sex offender with a long string of victims across the country.

and he'd changed his name and moved to this fucking Disney town. And this was probably a revenge murder as well, which is just fucking insane. Wow. And that obviously is like maybe starting to play in other people's paranoies as well. Like, who are my neighbors? This town has popped up and people were like, some guys changed his name and moved here and brought murder to our town and brought like darkness to our town as a result. And it did seem to unlock something because that's the first murder, 2010.

a week later, a second murder happens. Not far from the original one, totally unrelated. People wake up one morning and there's a SWAT team and local cops in the town square. And there's like a standoff, a local man named Craig Foucher. Love it. That is a great, no. That's a great name. Unfortunately, he would be Craig Foucher.

Craig Foucher. Yeah, it's such a like Floridian. a name too like Craig Foucher. He's in a 14-hour standoff with police. He's holding someone hostage in his house and he's firing shots out into the street, barricading himself inside his house. Apparently, this is all related to the fact that his house was falling apart and he couldn't get anything fixed and he was losing money because the cost of living was so high living in this town and it had driven him a bit mad, and he ends up killing himself,

killing someone else. Disney, at this point, fucks off from Celebration. They sell the town to a private equity firm and, like, wash their hands of it. And basically, there's no, like, literature about celebration on any of their websites or anything. They pretty much just act like, yeah,

that, yeah, we, yeah, we did a town. We sort of experimented with a town for a little while there, but no, we don't do that anymore. That's someone else's town. Two murders in the space of a week and they just sell. They're like, go on, we've got to go. Wow. So, yeah, two murders.

I bet they got a good price. Yeah. It's like falling, falling apart. There's a fucking death pond in the middle of it. Private equity, they normally, I think when things are sold to private equity, private equity normally comes in and fixes everything up and. Yeah. In their interest to look after everyone.

Yeah, it proves the situation. Yeah, what is that? I didn't really know what private equity is that when someone's like, like they'd buy a, they'd buy cheap, right? Like they'd buy a cheap land or like a cheap place that's falling apart or whatever. What, do they profit from it? I don't really know.

Yeah, they'll sell it for parts and they'll, you know, just moving, moving things around a lot of, you know, they open up a spreadsheet. This is how I understand it. I'm a pretty mathematically minded man. Yeah, dude. I mean, you're talking finance. Yeah.

I get it. Moving numbers around. People's lives are being ruined. But the faces man behind the scenes. Ooh, a charing. So Disney fuck off celebration. It's still a master plan privately owned town, but it's no longer owned by Disney. And they go through like a 10-year, like, reputation rehab type thing to try and

try and make their town nice and good again. And for the most part, it succeeds. It kind of gets back to a level that everyone's pretty happy with. And Disney go, hey, um, we might buy this back. Can we come back? Yeah. Uh, they, this does not happen because unfortunately, another murder takes place in 2019.

This one is more gruesome than the first two. So I will, um, a lot of them was bludgeoning with an axe. Yeah. And another one was a shootout with police. Okay. I'll keep it again, bear in mind, I'm saying this with a lightness and I have a twinkle in my eye. Oh my gosh. But this is actually really fucking gross and sad.

Anyway, we won't go too dark, but we have to get a little dark in order to, you know, it's darkest right before the dawn, as they say. So we're near the end. In December 2019, a man named Anthony Todd murders his entire family. wife, children and the dog, which I fucking hate. Yes, the dog. Horrible shit. He leaves them in their beds.

And then he continues to live his life in celebration as normal for two months. Oh, my God. Until eventually a neighbor notices Anthony's erratic behavior. And there's a buildup of mail on the front porch, I guess, right next to the swing, which is kind of like a hammock. Have they noticed that the family's not? not there. You know, normally that... People are probably starting to notice the family aren't there as well. They're like, what? Every time we see Anthony's looking really skittish and weird and doesn't want to

talk to us. So a neighbor eventually calls the cops. They do a welfare check and they discover this horrific scene inside his house. Anthony claims to have no memory of the murders that he committed at all and claims to be like in a fugue state for that two month period where he doesn't. doesn't remember any of it, even though he was like going to work and going to the shops and shit and like living his life. He claims he doesn't remember any of it. When he's asked, the last thing he remembers to bring this back to Disney, he says, the last thing he remembers is that he was looking for a Mickey Mouse necklace that his daughter

owned in her bedroom, which is such a weird little fucking detail. It creeps me out so much. He's in jail. He's even life in prison. The judge even gives him extra time for killing the daughter. dog, which is good. That's like, I mean, that's awesome. Does he have to go to pet prison at the end of his other sentence?

Yeah, you do 22 life sentences and then one year in pet prison. There's no clear motive either. Like, this guy is a Wikipedia page as well. There's no clear motive. When they dug into his past, they discovered, this is a really weird detail. They discovered that his dad went to jail in 1980 for hiring a hit man to kill his own wife. Anthony's mom. So there's like a weird fucking crime family related thing there, which is bizarre.

And also they discovered that Anthony was in a lot of debt. He was in over $100,000 worth of debt that he'd apparently been hiding from his family because he'd spent all of their savings on trips to Disney World. Oh. How fucking weird is this shit? This is so weird. How many times do you have to go to rack up $100,000 in? It's in the same state, right?

That's the Florida one. It's like right nearby. It's like, yeah. It's not the flights. No. It's just no rides. Yeah. He's just going to Disney World like solo, I guess and like just spending $100,000.

How many turkey legs? My God. You did seem to be. I was wondering why you were so defensive at the start saying I'm not a Disney adult. Is that why? You didn't want to be associated. This is what happens. Oh my God.

Yeah. Holy shit. I mean, I promise to you guys, I'm not in over $100,000 of debt for all the Disney parks that I've gone to in the last six years. But that's crazy. That's crazy. Many around the world, though.

Yeah. I have been to a lot, but I'm still in the red. The red? Yeah, I'm in the red. I'm in the red. I'm in the black. I'm in the black. If I'm in the red, that's when you got to watch out. Yeah.

So I don't really know what I'm supposed to take away from it. Like, I've been obsessed with celebration and this story. and Walt's dream and the fact that it all kind of ended in these really horrific murders that are all like directly the result of Disney, it seems. I've been obsessed with it for a long time and I don't really know what I'm supposed to learn from it if I'm supposed to learn anything. But I think the reason I'm drawn to it is because it's a story about like the quest for utopia and how this inevitably leads to like decay.

and like evil, basically. Like the facade of perfection rots. And anytime you try to do something that's perfect and wholesome and pure, fucking people turn it into something horrible and evil and start murdering. And I forgot to mention as well, there's also sex parties going on. Oh, yeah. You've skipped over there. That's around the time where they start trying to sue Disney and Disney

won't let them and they start, I guess, lashing out by having big orgies. That'll show them. Yeah, so there's like orgies, murder, lawsuits, people are going into crazy amounts of debt all for Disney, like all in the pursuit of being close to Disneyland. Yeah, it's like the kind of what I said earlier, like the bright shining, you know, imagination and joy and spark. and fairy dust of Disneyland, but right behind it is the shadow. And I'm kind of a bit drawn by all of that.

There's one final detail. And this is a very recent update from the town of celebration. They built a couple of years ago, they built a new, they got rid of the deaf pond. Got rid of the rack. And they built like a town square that looks really similar to the back to the future one with a big memorial fountain, like a deaf fountain. A big fountain in the middle of town That celebrates the story of celebration

And there's all the names of like whatever founders And all this shit Including the name of Walt Disney That's in the bricks around the big fountain But they've misspelled the name Walt Disney That's good That's good Instead of Walt Disney

It's misspelled as Wald Disney With a D And I just think that's perfect perfect way to end it, that they, this all began as Walt's dream and it kind of ended in darkness and decay in his own name being misspelled on a fountain in a shit town that Disney doesn't even own anymore. It's just not quite right, is it when he try for perfection like that? It's not something we need about it. So I think the lesson that we all need to take from this is don't strive for perfection, guys,

and don't try to create a utopia. I think my lesson is that they should have had the dome. That's where they all went wrong. Yeah. I think you're right. They went wrong by not having the dome. Because then none of the houses would have fallen apart maybe because there'd be no elements. It would have prevented the murder, definitely.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. It's a murder-free dome. Everyone knows that. Yeah. Well, that's probably what Walt should have said on the original plans. Yeah. The dome will stop all murders from taking place.

Yeah. You've got to really spell it out for people sometimes, you know, really spoon feed them. Now, there's no, if you're going to murder someone, you have to take them outside the dome. I thought you were going to say that they did the thing where they were like, yes, he got bludgeon with an axe here, but he technically died off our property. He died on that little strip of unincorporated land over there that we've left for people to die on. So it's still there. The town is still there.

Still there. People live there. Just not many now. Yeah, I think it's probably, yeah, just not many. And it's not owned by Disney anymore. And it just sort of looks, when you look at photos of it now, it doesn't look like Disneyland so much anymore. They've kind of taken a lot of the mom and pop shit away from it.

And there's normal shops there and shit now. They've got it suprae. They've got a soup. They've got a boost juice. Oh, fuck, yeah. They've got a Gloria James and stuff. They go, Gloria James. You get a white chocolate mokka.

Sombreros? Yeah, they got his umbrellas. and stuff. If there was like a Main Street, Australia, that is what it would look like. Yeah. Yeah. Gizmini Gomez. Muffin time.

It'd be a hungry Jacks, probably. Yeah. Absolutely. An H.J.'s cafe. Jack's Cafe, I think. Jack's Cafe. You can live there. You can, I looked a couple of years ago when we went to Disney World and,

in Florida. I did want to go and visit it. Me and my wife, I was like, can we go visit celebration? So you've known about it for a long time. Yeah, so like I weirdly pitched a podcast on it to the ABC a couple of years ago. And part of it was like, I want to fly there and interview people and shit. And they were like, we're not paying for you to go to Florida.

Oh, come on. Just to do this weird. thing that you're obsessed with. But I did want to go there a few years ago and I was again pitching it to my wife. Like, can we go to celebration? And she was like, well, it's no. I mean, like, why? We're here for like two days and you want to spend one of those days in a shit small town

that's not far from here. Man, next time you go, make it a boyfriend trip and I'll definitely come to celebrate with you. We'll do a boyfriend trip, man. But you can look it up. It looks kind of normal now. But it just sort of looks like the Truman Show town. Yeah.

It looks very. I'm looking it up on my laptop now. It looks very, like, perfect and, um, and very pretty. I mean, it looks, it looks quite nice. But yeah, there'd be, it's like, so I did go to, to Dollywood last year. And any kind of theme park, obviously, they're themed. There's like, so there's different sections that are, oh, it's old Western and this is this, and there's a 50s diner.

And it was so fun for like half the day. And then the magic starts to wear off a little bit. And you're like, It is all fake though Like I can see that's That's not a real mine Yeah Yeah

So I don't know I couldn't live in it It would feel too Perfect and creepy I mean Yeah I think we have a bunch of Floridian You know I'm saying that right

Listeners I wonder if there's anyone who lives In this part of the world Either either in there Or close by Let's know They'd be amazing I'd love to talk to someone

Who lives there as well And I'd love for the ABC to pay for me to fly over there and have a chat with you if possible. And I also want to know if they ever fixed the misspelling in Walt Disney's name. So if anyone who's from there can go and take a photo of it, that would be nice. Wald Disney. Walt. Like, it's such a famous name.

How do you find that? Yeah. I'm having to look at it on the maps. It's near a place called ESPN Wide World of Sports. There's like a whole area that's ESPN. What is this area in Florida? They're just like corporations have made little towns. What, hang on, there's a town called ESPN.

Well, it looks like it, it just looks like this whole, this whole chunk of an area right across the highway from celebration. Oh, yeah. In Bay Lake, Florida. Yeah, they do. Oh, okay. There you go. Yeah.

So this whole area is just fucking Disney, basically. There's Star Wars launch bay? Yeah. Awesome. Stinky Dog Dash? What the hell is that? Oh, slinky dog. Slinky dog.

Yeah, I think you're just looking at Disney World. I might be. At this point, yeah, you are just looking at rides, I think. Oh, my God, there's a town called Splash Mountains. Oh, my God. What's this? It is really, it's right there then. Yeah.

Right. Hopefully they got discounted tickets or like a, you know, a lifetime pass or something. Well, then you, I mean, that guy was in debt. Yeah, that was the turkey legs. Yeah, it doesn't cover turkey legs or giant pickles. You have to pay for those yourself. And if you want to use fast pass, yes, you do have to pay for that as well. Yeah, okay.

Zah, fucking crazy. So that's the story of Celebration, Florida. And someday I'd like to go there. I had never heard of Celebration, Florida. Neither. And I loved that story so much. That was fascinating, Cam. It's crazy.

How could you think that's a good idea? How? How and why? Hubris. Yeah. Everything you've done is such a turn to gold. You're like, yeah, I'll solve the world's problems. Yeah, it's Fordlandia style. I created a little mouse.

How hard it could it be? Do I ask, was I there for the Fordlandia episode? No. Oh, thank God, because I don't remember it at all. Oh, right. That's right. That's right. We're at Sandspant's radio.

Okay, great. And that was different because it was like an industry town in Amazon where if you lived there, you were building cars in the Amazon. Is that right? I don't know if they were ever, they were, it was rubber. They were farming rubber. Oh, they were farming rubber. But they didn't know how to do that.

Yeah. They didn't know how to farm rubber, but they set up a whole town with the idea of farming rubber. Farming rubber. Yeah, rubber trees. But they didn't know that they'd learned lessons, they'd learned bad lessons from different climates and like, those trees, they keep dying. So it was hopeless.

But in totally different ways from this, it was a disaster. Wow. These sort of attempted utopias that, like rich men's follies, I think are so fascinating. It's the best. It's the best. There is some other towner, I think the Truman Show one, where is that? Because I'd like to go to all these places. There's a, oh, the Truman Show town is in, I think it's in Florida as well.

Yeah, seaside Florida. There's a few places in Florida that are like planned communities that all look perfect. And yeah, it's amazing. I love that shit. We don't have, do we have any here? We should have a, yeah, a perfect Australian town. Oh, God. Yeah, we talked about before, bright.

Yeah, it's kind of the celebration Florida. Yeah. They're mostly white and bright. White, Victoria. Before we let you go, Cam, tell us one more time about the show that you're bringing to Melbourne where we are, but also touring around the country. Thank you so much for setting me up, Jess. That's really kind of you. Let me tell you about a show called Broken Records by Cameron James.

This is a show where a man gets on stage and sings. some funny songs and tells some funny stories and has a few jokes as well. It is inspired by a near-death experience that I had last year. Oh my God. And it led me to write a show where I confess all of my deepest confessions. Wow. And that is what the show is. So if you come along, you can expect to see me blush as I tell you some things that I'm incredibly humiliated about. Wow. That's a That's a great hook I'm in

Come see a man blush Yeah And let me tell you that Unlike Matt I did see your last two shows Because I got in early And bought tickets Because I knew it would sell out

Because you always do Because you're Well this is how the rich Get richer Dave What by me Bying the tickets You buying the tickets For the shows

That are already doing well Why Thank you for that That's what I'm trying to get in For free at the last minute And they were fantastic So it's going to be great You've got to get along and see a cam show.

I'll be there. I'll be there. I'm looking forward to seeing you guys as well. So when you date the audience, do you, do you seal the deal? Like, do you get to? It depends how well it goes. Well, they wouldn't let him call the show Dave Warnocky fucks the entire audience, but that is the subtext.

That wasn't allowed. Yeah. Interesting. And does the, like, if you do seal the deal and fuck, does it happen live on stage or does it happen just afterwards and we don't get to see it? Well, there will be a 15 minute. change over between me and the next show, so it depends how quickly we can all get our freak on, clean up and get out.

Get our freak on! That's how long it's been since Dave had sex. He's still saying, get your freak on. He's still doing a disco style. No, that was a great, because it's the return of a show that you did with Sammy P. 10 years ago. Yeah, that's right. This is part two. And I saw that show and it was so fun.

So I'm very excited. Thank you very much. And this time I'm married with a child, so let's find out. Let's watch Dave. I think more people should be doing 10-year anniversary shows. Yeah, part two to a show that most people didn't see, but still it's a bit of fun. Yeah, it's good. I might do it.

I'll bring back one of the many split bills that I did. But on your own? In 2010, but I'll do it again. With people that don't do comedy anymore. I'll bring them back. You make them come back. Yeah. Can you do that?

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Intrigued at least. I like to learn. It's true. And immediately forget. And that's my strength on this podcast. Anyway, Captain Coffee writes, I'm sorry I made people sad with my last fat quarter question about my dog Juliet, especially since this is a comedy podcast. As an apology, I wanted to do something more fun and hopefully more appropriate for comedy.

Yes, I know I set the bar very low for myself starting with a dead dog emoji with monkey covering its eyes. Got it. No apology required. No, no, no. You can use this for whatever you like. You can get real in this section. Of course you can. We are all about being vulnerable in the space and being your true authentic self.

You can do whatever you're like. And we'd be lying if we said that dogs didn't die in the reports as well. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're aware of death. We're aware of dogs. Yes. My dog won't ever die, but I've heard that others do. Oh, man, I thought Penny would never die.

I was so, I fully believed it. I'm like, this is a street cat. Yeah. That it just doesn't die. But a passing car had other thoughts. That is dark humor. That's dark humor. But that's what, I mean, I'm...

That's an actual example of dark humor, not what my dad calls dark humor, which is just racism. Oh my God, okay. Different definition. I still see Penny out the corner of my eye around the place. No. Yeah. Anyway, when...

Sorry, sorry, Captain Coffee. You were trying to change it from dead pets, and we brought it back to dead pets. I apologize, but Penny was a really great cat. I liked that cat a lot. Just give me little licks. Yeah. Cat tongues feel like sandpaper. Yeah.

But also kind of nice. I know. It's interesting, isn't it. So nice. So, Captain Coffee goes on, Isabel. When I was in high school, a very common trend was to look up our friends' names on urban dictionary.com And whenever we got to go to the computer lab for the youngers, we used to have rooms of computers because we didn't have internet on our phones.

Those were just bricks. I wonder what they do with those classrooms now. What is that now? We had computer rooms. Of course, you, computer lab. But now every student has a laptop with them. Yeah, bloody back in my day, we had to bring a bloody four-pack of flopper discs. Yeah, that's true.

That is true. Yeah, I remember having to bring the discs. In primary school, we had hard discs, which were the ones that were actually floppy, ironically. confusing. Anyway. That was obviously last century, at least. So, we go on. Let's jump into time machine and head back to 2009, where we are supposed to be doing research for our history group project,

but are just watching music videos and updating our my stuff. space page without urban dictionary definitions. I miss my space. Okay, so it looks like Isabelle has done our names. Yes. Oh, amazing. I hope I've got a good one. I reckon yours is probably really lame.

Are they nearly always sex positions? Yeah, yeah, nearly always. All right. So Jess is defined by urban dictionary. A hot guy that is funny and will most likely steal your bitch. Find the lie. I can't. You can't.

I can't. Hot guy? Tick. Funny? Funny. Hello. How many bitches have you stolen? I've actually lost count.

Yeah. Well, just everyone's. Matt is defined by the Urban Dictionary, an ancient Greek translation for external sex god. External sex god. Yeah. It is believed that anyone that holds this name has a great level of skill and ability to perform sexual acts for long periods of time.

Ah. Men possessing this name are also well endowed. Yep, that is true. Tick, tick, tickeroo. That is true. The most popular name, at least in Australia, for about 15 years straight. A lot of well-endowed, edgy, edgy.

Edgy boys. Edge lords. Yep. In the bedroom. Here we go. Dave's is going to be good, I reckon. Finally, yeah. Because ours were both just really accurate.

Yes. So now, this will be the rule of three. This will be the joke. Dave, this is divined by Urban Dictionary. Dave is the ruler of all universes. dimensions and realms. He isn't a god. He is the god. Okay, so Dave wrote this on urban dictionary. He is the epitome of life and the world as we know it. Anyone named Dave is a vessel for such greatness. One shall sacrifice their lives to the holiness and perfectness of the Dave.

The Dave. Dave represents all things beautiful and worthy of life. I tip my hat and salute to the god that megabits all things and all creatures. What is it? megabits all things mean. Thank you, Dave. We all owe you our lives. Nothing can define your greatness. Join the Dave Revolution. Be awakened.

Wake up, sheep, all. It's the day. Yeah, but let's keep in mind that I'm coming for all your bitches. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm a steal your bitch. It also didn't mention how big my wang is. So that means if it's not mentioned, it's probably nothing to be writing home about, is it?

And that's hurtful, isn't it? I don't know. It feels like. like a doth doesn't protest too much top scenario. Oh, okay, yes, if it's not mentioned. Yeah, you're humble about it. Yeah, that's true. People are...

The Matt one is, you know, what are why are we saying this in a definition? Because a Matt wrote that, obviously. Guys that are very, very sensitive about their height, usually short. Yeah. You know, so if you're not, you're not really talking about the size of your weighing, your enormous weighing. Yeah. That's just because it's just the norm to you.

Yeah, no big deal. It doesn't define you. Yeah, you're tall in the pants. Oh, he's in the top 10 percentile. Do they do that with babies? That's not one of the common measurements. They should. Isabel writes, I hope this was fun.

If not, you can revoke my fact quote or question privileges. I also hope it was easier to read this time. I use paragraphs. I'm so sorry. It sounds like I might have been a bitch last time, Isabel. And that's why I stole you. Yeah. No, it, I mean, it helps because we are reading, or Matt is reading this off

an Excel spreadsheet, a Google sheet. Yeah, one cell in a spreadsheet and it does get tricky in there. Breaking it up does make it easier to read. So thank you. Thank you so much, you, and we are certainly not revoking your rights. No. So far, two from two. Yeah.

I wonder if you can do all the emotions. Yeah. We've done happy and sad. Yep. Next, what's that? Erections? Hungry? Hungry.

Yeah, Hungary is a big emotion. It's for me. It's one of my driving forces. Thank you, Isabel. Well, the next and final one this week comes from Matthew Whittingham, aka Do Go on Red Ranger. Oh. Matthew has a fact writing, by the way, Matthew, I don't know if you've heard.

Yeah, I'm saying. You've got to, you're well endowed. Matthew writes the Power Rangers villain Rita Repulsa has been portrayed by five actresses. In the first season of Mighty Mawfin Power Rangers, she was portrayed physically by Japanese actress Machiko Soga using footage of a character which Bandora in Kauauauroyu, centa ziranga. I think you nailed all of those.

The American show is adapted. Reader's voice was provided by American voice actress Barbara Goodson, who is also known for a voice work in a bunch of shows you've never heard of. When the American studio was recasting a reader locally for the second season, Goodson auditioned to take over the physical portrayal, but given that she was significantly shorter than Soga, as well as a decade younger and white, it was determined she would look too different in the role.

They instead cast Carla Perez, an American actress born in the Philippines, who was 30 years younger than Soga. This was explained in the show by Rita drinking an age potion. Oh, clever. That's so funny, they're like, oh, she, the first one was 10 years younger. That won't work. 30 years younger, now we can ride in a potion. That's potion worthy, yes.

Goodson stayed on as Rita's voice actress. And together, Sheen Perez would betray Reader in every television appearance until the end of Power Rangers in space in 1998. Yes, this does go on. We're only up to 19908. Goodson also voiced Reader in 1995's Mighty Morphean Power Rangers, the movie. But as they were filming in Sydney, New South Wales, they cast local actress Julia Cortez for the physical portrayal. Cortez has one other acting credit on IMDB, Cynthia Campos, aka Bill Hunter's wife, in Priscilla Queen of the Desert.

Wow. That's an amazing two roles. Couple of big hits, yeah, and then retire on top. Yeah. Hell yeah. Reader would appear multiple times across the series in flashbacks and archival footage. For completion's sake, I'll also mention Robo Reader from the 30th anniversary special Once and Always, who was played by an uncredited suit actor and technically isn't Rita anyway.

Wow. Reader's true final appearance in the series comes in the finale of Power Rangers' Mystic force in 2006, this time voiced by New Zealand actress Susan Brady. Rita has been purified and is now the mystic mother, a good witch who now assists the Power Rangers. In this appearance, she is once again portrayed by Machiko Soga, this time using footage of her character, Heavenly Arch Saint Maggiel from Mahal Sentaigaranger. While there was no connection to her earlier character in the Japanese series, it allowed

the American series to build out their law, as well as acting as a tribute to Soga who had passed away earlier that year. Wow, wow, wow. That was a mini report, basically. That was wild. From Matthew Whittingham, aka Do Go on Red Ranger. Love that. Thank you so much to Matthew. Thanks so much to Isabel. Love those fact quotes and questions. If you are on the Sydney Schoenberg level, you can drop them to me at any time, day or not. you're always open are you? I'm always open. Wow.

The next thing we like to do is shout out to some of other fantastic supporters. We're on the shoutout level or above. I believe that is the ass prod level or above. Yeah. And Jess, you normally come up with a game based on the topic at hand. I do. And instead I was sitting here just having a nice time, but I haven't thought of a game. I was thinking something kind of like Disney World, Disneyland related, but I don't know enough about it.

What about if they instead? of splooging out fake snow, what's the thing that they brought to the town? Oh, I love that. All of these people are moving to the town, to this fake perfect town that we've built. Yeah. What are they bringing with them? Yes. Love that.

All right. Like a little potluck. Yes, fantastic. How about I read out the names and you two come up with those things? Love it. First up, I'd love to thank for all their support from London. In Great Britain, it's Matthew Port. He brought a casserole.

Matthew Port brought a casserole. And is there enough for everyone in the town? No. Oh, Matthew. It is first in best rest. And it is far too hot. What are we talking about four serves? Five, six.

Oh, it would do like a, probably like a eight. It's an eight serve. Oh, okay. That's pretty good. That's for like a decent, you know, full meal. I suppose if you could probably stretch that to like 16 serves if people are just taking a little bit amongst other food. You know what I mean? Like a rice or something to bulk it out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's not that many people living there. Yeah, and this is like these are the first people arriving. And everybody's. bringing really cool stuff, which we'll hear about. But nobody actually thought about, oh, we need to eat. Yes. You know, moving house, you forget to eat because you go, go, go.

And then you're absolutely bugged by the end of the day. So Matthew actually did a really good thing there. And Matthew's also really well endowed. Oh, big time. It will not stop talking about it. The next one comes from Sydney here in Australia, please. And thank you, Katrina Mark. Katrina Mark has brought a fish tank.

Oh, very big one and everyone can come over look. puts it in the front window of Katrina's house. Oh, it's not going in like a Chinese restaurant or something. It's just in Katrina's house. Yeah, but it's in the front window so you can walk past and Katrina doesn't mind if you bring the kids along to have a little look. Have we approved that structural change to Katrina's house? We actually haven't. Right, okay.

So enjoy it while it lasts. Yeah, yeah. And the tank is full. Absolutely full. Yeah. Beautiful tropical fish. Yeah, all rescued. So they're, they're rescued from the sea.

From the ocean. The dangerous, dangerous ocean. They hate the ocean. Sharks in the vicinity. So we got that. We whipped them out of there. We saved them. Thank you.

Thank you for thinking of that. Katrina. Next up from, oh my God, Orlando, Florida right there in the United States. This is right basically in the suburbs of Orlando. It's Marissa Dixon. Marissa actually brought the Zamboony.

Oh. Because we obviously built an ice rink. Of course. Yeah. But we... In that climate, of course you would. Yeah, of course. But we did not have...

the foresight, we forgot about the Zamboni and Marissa was like, don't worry, I got one. So I rode the Zamboni into town. Oh, a hero. A hero. And we cheered and cheered. It was nice. Yeah. Don't worry, Marissa.

You get double casserole serving if you want. That's right. Help yourself. It is hot. Next up, I'd love to thank from West Melbourne, which is here in Melbourne, I believe. Rain, Herman. Holy shit, rain. What a name.

Ryan Herman has brought cornhole. Oh, great. That cornhole game, we throw a little bean baggy. Yeah. Things into the hole. That's fun. Fun for the whole town. Fun for the whole town.

Go on down. Yeah. You throw a bag into a hole. Into a hole. Perfect. That's fun. It's really fun. That is fun.

It's not to enjoy, Rain. Thank you. Thank you so much, rain. A great outdoor activity. Put that in a beer garden. We're all having a good time. Yeah. Thank you very much, Rain.

I'd also love to thank from Central Islip. or Islop in New York. It's Damien Atwood. Damien Atwood brought along a, like a food truck. Oh, that's nice. That's great. As the casserole is running out, he just rocks up. And everyone's like, yes.

Cheers him. He's the hero riding in the town. And he does all sorts of stuff. He does pizza. He does tacos. He does hot dogs. He does spaghetti bolognays. None of the world.

Master of none. I love that. But late at night, you're hitting up Damien's. I'll take any of those furniture. Yeah, 100%. I'll take them all and turn it into one of those pizza folded over. Yeah, Calzone with everything in. You're going to throw it up anyway.

In the air, catch it with my mouth. That's right. From Clearwater, also in Florida. What the heck? Wow. I'd love to thank Mary Marla. Mary Marla has arrived with a box of wigs. Yes, for dress-up parties.

Throw out and you've got, oh, something like, you're in the Beatles. Oh my gosh, you've got a really big curly hair. Wow. I've always just wanted to see what I look like blonde. Yeah, perfect. We've got one for you. Great. Where did you pick those up from, Dave?

Just found him in the attic. Yeah? Of the old of us. Of the wigsphere? Yeah. I think Mary has moved from Knoxville, Tennessee. Yeah, right. I'm of the wigsphere.

Yeah. That makes sense. Next. Thank you so much, Mary, these wigs. We're already having a lot of fun. We're having a lot of fun. Yeah. Next one comes from.

At least horse hair. Adverse unknown. Can only assume from deep within the fortress of the moles. Sounds like a fake name as well, to be honest. Well, please and thank you to Ashley Austin. Oh, that's a fake name. Yeah, it's a fake name. It's a double first letter.

And funnily enough, Ashley has actually brought the machine that Ashley uses to make fake IDs. Yeah, like a little printing. That's fun for everyone. It's fun. It's fun for the youth. Yeah. Obviously, we don't have like, you can drink at any age in our cool town. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And the Mickey Mouse cops, they just, they want to have something to say, we're doing our job. Yes, yes. But everyone's winking, like, literally winking nonstop. Yeah. When they're showing, the toddlers are walking in, shun-ardie, winking. And I go, here's your pint.

Here's your pint. Put a little sippy cup lid on it. Yeah, I just wanted to spill. Thank you so much, Ashley Austin. You're doing God's work there. From Mount Pleasant in New South Wales. Sounds awful. You hate mountains.

Bit of fun. It's Nicole Greenwood Nicole Greenwood has brought with them assorted goggles Let's all get swimming But none of us will have sore eyes Good because you know what This is the worst when you get to the pool and you go

I've left my goggles We've got the goggles, don't worry And also I use my goggles now Because I went to the pool Had forgotten my goggles, bought some goggles Used them once Swimming's not for me And then now I use them to chop onion

Oh yeah I really do I'm always terrified the neighbors are going to walk past right at that moment because our kitchen window looks out to a communal area. I'd love to see a photo of that. Hello. You're going to picture you and they go, how, ha, halla.

And I'm chopping onion for dinner. They already think you're weird, don't they? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I wonder why, like, I often think, like, so the neighbors don't really chat to us much and now I'm starting to understand why. And finally, from Walkersville in MD, maybe Maryland

in the United States, it's Stacy. Stacey brought the pool. Oh, we needed one of those. It's one of those. It's one of those like, it's not inflatable. You know those ones that are, you know. Yeah, it's got a frame like an aluminium sort of popping frame. It's pretty big.

It's pretty big. And you need... It's actually... Are you in Stacey's voice? It's actually pretty big. Yeah, yeah, I was already doing a bit. Once you unpack it, it is. It's fun to jump on a bit.

It's pretty big. It's pretty big. I really enjoyed it. It's pretty big, though. I feel like 10 p. people at it. Stacey, we really do appreciate that very much. Stacey, Nicole, Ashley, Mary, Damien, Rain, Marissa, Katrina and Matthew,

Legends, one and all. And the last thing we need to do is welcome some people in the Trip Ditch Club. Dave, you explain this so well. Well, this, Matt, is our clubhouse, our Theatre of the Mind, our hangout zone, our Hall of Fame, if you will, for people that have been supporting the show for three consecutive years or the shout-out level or above. Already they've had a shout-out. We've given them some sort of nickname or something years ago.

but now to enshrine them forever, the name goes up on the wall, we put them into the clubhouse, we welcome them in, and inside there's music, there's games, there's stories to tell, there's lots and lots of stuff, there's food and drink, which Jess often organises. Yep, there's ice cream in the shape of Mickey Mouse. Whoa. There's like a slushy type thing.

This sounds great. It's all like, it's Disneyland, Disney World themed food at the moment. That's great. In the shape of stuff. East Compass ice cream shop? No. No. And Dave, you normally book a band for the after party?

never going to believe it. I've been talking to this young man for a long, long time. Mr. Florida himself, Flo Rider is here. Oh my God. Yes. Everybody gets low. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Huge. He'll spin us right round.

Baby. Thank you so much, Dave, for booking that. The way this works is a bit of the theory of mine, sort of like what Dave was saying. I'm on the door. I've got the guest list this week. We've got a few entries. We've actually got a set. Seven, I believe.

Lucky seven. Lucky for some. Seven inductees this week. And when you hear, I'm right on in. Dave's on the stage. He's hyping you up. He's the MC. Then we'll obviously have the band at the after party.

Jess hops up Dave because he's weak wordplay that he uses. I will not stand for Dave's wordplay slander. Come on, please. Don't do that in front of a man who's funny enough to call itself Flowrider. Please do not do that. Sorry, that's a good point. All right. Are you ready?

Yes. First up, please welcome to the Trip Ditch Club from Cannon Falls in maybe Minnesota. It's Andrew Spitzosa. Oh, I think it looks like it's split soza. Okay, yeah, that's quite different to what I said. I will never split from you, Andrew. Together forever, baby.

Andrew Splits Toza, maybe. Sorry and thank you. What a name. From Ashford in South Australia. Please welcome Jeremy Gleason. Oh, you fill me full of Gleason. Yeah, Jeremy. From Melbourne, Victoria, it's Reese.

Well, I don't want to grease the wheels. I want to reese the wheels. Get this night going with Reese. Bit a lube. Oh, we also like a Baymarie. From Avondale Heights here in Victoria, please and thank you and welcome. Natalie Baker. I don't need a baker's dozen.

I just need one, Natalie Baker, that is. From Chicago, the windy city in Illinois, America. Please and welcome and thank you, Myelie. Jamison Or killer no Mila I thought you're gonna say Miller

Miller Well you could be Miller Yeah Or killer no Miller Um Mila I reckon it's probably Miller

Okay But still a Mila High Club Yeah It's just hanging out with you Nothing weird Nothing weird From Chisick In Great Britain

Welcome the well And down Matt Gillespie That's really Dizzy You feel dizzy I feel dizzy I feel dizzy.

Oh, geez, a fat Gillespie, fat in your pants, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fat Gillespie. I'm like, what? Oh, Matt, fat, okay. Fat in your pants. Oh, I'm sorry. And what?

I gave you dizzy. I'm finally from Belmont in New South Wales, Australia. Please and thank you, McKelle McCrae. McCrae. I was in something like that. Yeah, yeah, making me McCraisy. Macrae King me McCraisee. I think we got it.

But in a positive sense. Yeah. Thank you so much, Macalla. Matt Mieler or Myler. Natalie, Reese, Jeremy and Andrew. That brings the end of the episode. Can you believe it? Just anything we need to tell me before we go?

Hey, listen up. Just wants to wrap with you guys for a second. Oi! Oi! He's up here. Settle down. Please. Bring it in.

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