Do Go On - 489 - Julie d'Aubigny: History's Greatest Rascal

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

Julie d’Aubigny was a French opera-singing sword fighter from 17th-century France who lived a wild life and I can't wait for you to hear all about it!This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 12.19 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).For all our important links: https://linktr.ee/dogoonpod Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://theculturetrip.com/europe/france/articles/the-story-of-julie-daubigny-the-french-opera-singing-sword-fighterhttps://kellygardiner.com/fiction/books/goddess/the-real-life-of-julie-daubigny/https://www.lapl.org/collections-resources/blogs/lapl/julie-daubigny-la-maupin-and-early-french-opera Alan Westby writing for the LA Public Libraryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QaBYLAOaSY written by Jac Amari Mindelan for Extra Historyhttps://thepursuit.acitech.org/2225/features/the-life-of-julie-daubigny/ https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20191001-a-hidden-side-to-royal-versailleshttps://www.historicmysteries.com/history/julie-daubigny/26646/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dev Warnke and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Hi. Hello, so good to be alive, is it not?

Isn't it? I mean, that's all I'm asking. And what? You will refuse to answer. Immediately defensive. Yeah, no comment from me. No comment from me. Personally, I wish I was never born, but that's just me.

Dave, you just started your Adelaide Fringe run last night. How's it going? Oh my gosh. Fantastic. I mean, we're recording this ahead of time, but I assume you smashed it. Absolutely nailed it. You had Sammy Pee? Rinerant.

Sammy Pineson. We are, I called him Sammy Pineson, I think. Sammy Peterson. You did say Sammy Peterson. I know. And you were going to let it go and I appreciate both of you so much. I thought you said that, but I was going to let it go. We're early in the episode.

We are at the Rino Room for the next few nights at 8.45 p.m. doing Dave Warnocky dates the entire audience. I will date you. Sammy P. is on stage playing my manager. Will he date the audience at all? No, but he will network with the audience. Oh, that's good. He's trying to promote my career.

I'm trying to promote love. Love. And using your phone, you get to tell us what you'd like to do next. We've got the perfect simulation of early part of a relationship. Does anyone ever just go, bone, next? What do you want to do next? Get freaky. I want to get freaky.

I want to get my finger on. I want to get naked right now. Hey, Dave, I'm in the Rwano Room next. next week. Oh, same room. Same room, same time. Well, I thought it was the same room. But I'm just looking at your Hell's Kitchen.

Oh, I thought it was the same. What are you in? Drama. Oh, nice. Who's the bigger deal? I think the Drama Lama is the bigger deal. Oh. I would have said Hell's Kitchen.

Well, I don't like that pressure. Yeah. I was really hoping it was going to be the other way around. I mean, hell's how big is hell? How big is the kitchen? How big is pretty big? Yeah, but the kitchen. But the Lama.

But you think about the population of hell, right? Right. It's going to need a pretty big kitchen. Yeah. Probably multiple. But maybe that's one of the things about how one of the punishments is not a lot of food. What? Yeah, this is for the staff. It's a star kitchen.

I'll tell you what, I'm not looking forward to hell. I put it a good word for you. Hey, Dave, after your show tonight, can you plug my show for next week? Yeah, I'm going to get on the mic and say, I've got my friend coming next week. And the drama, llama, he's a big deal. Bigger room than this one. Or smaller, depending on, we're not 100% sure. We're not sure.

but we'll find out. But yes, you can get tickets to both those shows. Thank you with Adelaide. We'd love to see you there. And honestly, tomorrow night, I'm doing a live bookcheat in Adelaide at the time of recording. At the time this comes out, March the 6th as part of the Adelaide Festival of Writers' Week. Awesome. Which is for every...

David, do you believe this? I'm doing a live who knew it with Matt Stewart on March the 15th in Adelaide. Oh my gosh. Isn't that wild? This is what? How about I put this pressure out? we haven't been to Adelaide with do go on for about six years but if you come to both bookshed and who knew it

we'll know that there's an appetite and then we'll bring we'll make Jess come yeah Jess makes us well firstly Dave made me go last year yeah and he said if there's an appetite I'll come and then if there's an appetite for both of us then we'll bring Jess yeah just doesn't leave the state for less than you know three years of adequate prep I agree yep I stand by that so please come along that's why I have the profile I have boys. Diminishing every day. Just how I like it. But yeah, buy your tickets in advance Adelaide.

You got a reputation for not doing that. So, you know, maybe you can't wait to be in your beautiful city. Anyway, I'm doing the topic this week. Dave, do you want to explain how the show works? Yes, we take it in turn to see to report on a topic, which is often, but not always suggested to us by one of the listeners. We go away, do a bit of research on it, then bring it back to the group in the form of a report and the people not reporting. Don't know what the topic's going to be, and they also sit lovely. They sit lovely. I was going to say lovelily.

I don't know. That's never been said before. They sit lovely. I don't think anyone's ever said that. They've said it. They said it when they looked at Jess and I. About my tits. They sit lovely.

A perfect height. Oh my God. Oh, they sit lovely. They sit lovely. Because my name is Perkins. Yeah. And they're. My name is Jess Perkins.

That's why they call you that. Because it was given to me at birth. Yeah. Like my family, it's a name that goes a long way back, actually. My parents are Perkins and I think grandparents. How do they know? You were like the one they foretold. She will have a pair that sits lovely.

Nominative determinism. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. At its finest. And then anyway, it's your return, Matt, this week to do a report. Like I said, Jess and I will sit lovely, but we also don't know what the topic's going to be about. And you always start with a question.

question to get us on the topic. Do you have a question? I do have a question. The question is, what am I? A dickhead. Incorrect. A beautiful man. Intolerable. I've got more. It's more. It's more like the classic who am I. Sterile. What are my clues? And I'll give you more clues as we go. Oh, there's more. Oh, sorry. Was I close? I don't think so. Okay. I am one of, four. Okay, just locked out from this first clue. Dave, we go to you. excited for this. Here we go.

I'm one of... All right, you're both back in. I am one of five sports, which have been permanent fixtures at the Olympic Games since the first modern games were held in 1896. Wrestling. No?

Swim wrestling. That's our joiner. But do you know, are they one of the five at least? Can we get... Okay, I thought you'd have the five. All right, no, keep going. It's not those. It's not those. Now, we're loving it. So it's one of the five. What else we're thinking?

You said wrestling, weightlifting. If they're done running the whole time, they haven't, have they? Yeah, there would have been marathon. He's now Googling it. Archery.

Ooh, good one. That feels old. Like synchronized swimming's not in there, is it? Yeah. Break dancing wasn't in there. Swimming is in there. Okay. Fuck you, Dave.

Do you hear the other ones we said? No. You said swimming. Swimming, weightlifting. No. Okay. We did archery. You can keep going.

No. Marathon. No. Any kind of running? I mean, it's got track and fishing. Yeah, track and field. Yeah, it's very broad athletics. And it's not track and field.

No, it's not cycling. It's not gymnastics. They're the four. It's the fifth one. Here's your next clue. Okay. I demand speed, anticipation, reflexes and great mental strength. Shooting.

No. Equestrian. I was originally a form of military training and started to evolve into a sport in the 14th or 15th century in both Germany and Italy. Military training? Finally, I am a homophone for the material such as wire, stakes and rails used in building barriers. Fencing. Correct. I am fencing.

This week's topic is the fencing slash opera singing badass Julie Dobiny. That was like they're walking out on court for an NBA game. Julie da bernie. I said you don't mean. I did not intend it to come out like that. Let's just confirm as well. This is the subject of the topic, and you're going to say her name like that the whole time?

Well, not like that. Was that the kind of the person you looked up to say her name for you? Giulia d'aubigny. I'm... It is a French topic, so... Oh, there's going to be a lot of that. I am 99.9% sure that I've put Julie up to the vote at some point. I haven't read much other than...

Like, wow, this person's fit a lot into a life. I'm going to just, I'm checking my, I've got a little list I keep of potential topics. We'll take this one off. Yep, taking it off. It's been done. It's been done. Get it off. Awesome.

But yeah, like. So many people have suggested this. All I, all I remember is one of those lives where they fit a lot in. Oh, yeah. Big time. Love that. Love those lives. I mean, just the fact that she is, she is top of her game as an opera singer and a fencer.

Yeah. Is something. Just to be good at anything, I think, is very good at anything. I think is very impressive to me. Being good at two things like, all right, pump the brakes. If you're adding a third and fourth thing, I'm like, okay, you're an alien and you're not being very subtle

about blending in on earth. So this has been suggested by a bunch of people, including Darien Sablon from Pembroke Pines in Florida, Bob from Prague in the Czech Republic, Gregory Gripman from Nyack, New York, Andre from Brasilica in Brazil, Hannah White from Canberra, Kylie Richards from Bunyip,

in Victoria. Jason W. from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Hannah Scholar from Launceston in Tazzy. Nick Maltouse from Mount Gambia. Mick Malthouse? Nick Malthouse.

Nick Nolthaus. Jamie Alcantara from London in the UK. Sushmi Thar S from India. Georgia Reynolds from Norwich in the United Kingdom. Uh-huh.

Brandy Roy Hill from Greensboro, North Carolina. Zoe Becaroon from Mephrie Spurra in Tennessee. Connor Smith from Medford, Oregon. Chris Leaver from Mexico, Maine. Tom Staley, in bracket street with an alley. Tom Stally from Dyer, Indiana. He says, unfortunately, that sounds great.

No. Sophie from Melbourne. Ruben Fela. from Guernsey in the Channel Islands, Darcy Williamson from Vancouver and Canada, Millie Bailey from Brisbane and Queensland, Jamie Alcantara. You've suggested twice.

And I want to shout out to Jamie because Jamie suggested last week's topic as well. Whoa. Back to back for Jamie. Oh, my gosh, I've got to look up to see where the next week's topic is going to be Jamie as well. That'd be amazing, wouldn't it? Anya Kouyas, or Kogis from Brunswick in Wanganui, New Zealand. Megan Castle from Oklahoma

Millie B from London Daniel English from Sydney Lindsay Marriott from Glasgow Dom Greenwood from Ilkley Keridwen from Mount Barker Western Australia I should have said and at the end there That is... What a list!

I can't believe... I'm going completely blind I've never heard of this lady and we've got what three dozen suggestors for this Doesn't that bode well? That many people have seen this and gone Oh, that's a good story.

But I can't believe I'd never come across to me. It's that well known, that popular. It's awesome. We're really excited. It's so funny. Only recently, because I was talking about it to someone, and I'm like, yeah, I think Kat Stevens wrote a song about it, and it was not. My lady.

Yeah. That's not her. Completely different. But it is like, it's dull something else. But I just assumed, I'm like, yeah, yeah, like the. So often you make references to things, and I can't help you because I have no idea what you're talking about. And I just wanted to acknowledge that I knew that song straight away.

Lady Da Bunville. Yeah. And the person we're talking about is... Good guitar riff in that song. Anyway. Julie. Julie Dobongyi. Dobini.

Now, Dave, you're on a 608-day streak of... Maybe I have heard of this person just mad as just saying it's such a weird. What about La Mopin? That's also known as? Oh, La Mopin Uh, wee, we Yeah, tri bien I don't think

Jewelingo is working So yeah, this is not a good ad for Juelingo, which is good because they're not paying for them Yeah, if they pay for it He'll speak fluent French, thank you very much Wee, wee, we So this is a wild tale And it seems there are some blurry spots

Between fact and fiction Love that But yeah, that's always Lean in. Let's lean in. That's always the case to some degree. Absolutely. Thanks for flagging that. I'm going to just fully lean in. Okay. Yeah, whatever. I believe it. It happened. I really like how journalist Jade Cuddle describes her as, quote, one of history's greatest rascals. Ooh. That's promising.

I think maybe that could be the title of the show. Julie DiBoney, history's greatest rascal. Like, just take out the one of. Yeah, yeah. Well, how about by the end of the episode, you can decide where she sits on the ladder? Who would be your current leader as history's greatest rascal? No, present company excluded. Oh, that I've really got to think. Dennis the Menace comes to me.

Yeah, someone's cheeky. Dizzy? Dizzy rascal? Dizzy rascal? Yeah, some people think he's bonkers. I just think he's free. Is that what he says? Bongos, yes.

Anyway, well, you can have a thing about it. I'll have a thing about my favorite rascals. I'm going to quote. I mean, there's a lot of little ones out there. That's true. Oh, that's true. That one with the alfalfa? I'm going to, yeah, I'll quote from Jade Cut a little bit,

but also from Alan Westby, who wrote a great article about for the LA Public Library. And Westby writes, many facts of La Mopin. He likes to call a La Mopin. Okay. Many facts of La Mopin's life are not known with much certainty. Her name is found under several variations. So there are a lot of her life. has been pieced together based on a few letters and a few court documents and a few bits and

pieces like that. But her name is written in various different ways, including Julie Emily, Julie Emily, Mademoiselle Morpen, because as we'll hear as soon as she marries a morpun. And she's known by all these names, but most often now she's known and called by a maiden name, Julie de Bonnier or La Mubinne. I've said that differently. I'm just going to stick with Julie, to be honest. Jules. Jules.

Jules. Baby. Jules, baby. All right, let's take it back to the start. Codner Westby, she was born in Paris or nearby. Like, even this isn't known for sure. She was born somewhere on planet Earth. Either in...

Well, I think they've been a little more specific than that, Dave. I say, Paris or nearby. Yeah, he's saying she's an alien. Early theory, early theory. They think either in 1970 or 1973, perhaps in between. Her dad was... 19. 1670 or 1673.

It's quite different, isn't it? That's a millennium bug. Yeah. Is she a Gen X? Nothing's known. You know what Paris was like in the 1970s? No records. No records.

And she could possibly be around to tell us about it. I can't, like it says 1670, but my brain can't. Her dad was Gaston. Okay, sieur de bonnie. Sierra is like sir, I think in French. And he was a master swordsman as well. That's so cool. Yeah, yeah.

As well as a habitual gambler, drinker, and participant in other aspects of the nightlife. Is that cool too, Dave? No, because gambling and drugs and alcohol is. Never okay or cool. Dave. But fighting with swords is fucking sick. Dave, remind me of a classic Simpsons quote.

Can I, if I say the first bit, can you reckon you'll remember the next bit? Let's see. For your information, I'm Julie's father. And then you say, The drunk is Campbellor.

That's right. And who might you be? That's such a classic kid. That's so good. With Tom. Big brother. Westby continues. Debon Yi passed on his skills as well as his vices to his daughter.

He also saw that she, his only child, received an education usually reserved for boys. And she excelled at fencing, which she took up around the age of 12. According to Cattle, after first living in the writing school at the two years of Pallis in Bowie, she moved with the court to the opulent palace of the sack. in 1682. Part of her dad's job was teaching fencing to court pages at Versailles, and he trained his daughter alongside the boys. It sounds like it wasn't especially noteworthy

that a girl would take up fencing back then, but what was exceptional was that she competed against the boys and bested them, even though he was older than her. She was like a natural. I guess her dad was the teacher, and it was in the blood a little bit as well maybe. Leopardism. Yes.

He's tutoring. outside of He's tripping he's tripping the boys over while she's Yeah Yeah Fangs oh she wins again

He's giving her Like an actual sword And them sticks Yeah Yeah Yeah There's all corks She has a machete

She's hacking off limbs She's got a machine gun Huh Can't come over the girl eh This is also the time That she took up dressing in male attire

Which is something She's kind of famous for as well What like Pants Pantillon Pintolune Pandelon. What the fuck?

Yeah. That's not okay. That's not okay. Sorry, that's not okay. But yeah, she grew up in comfortable circumstances, pants. But also, you know. Oh, gosh. So comfortable.

Her dad was doing pretty well. Gaston was working as a secretary of the Compte. De. Damn. The magnac, de maniac. The comte de de mignon. I can see why the patron voted for this one. I am just realizing that too.

Did you write in the description, this is a French topic, and it will make me say a lot of French word? I don't think so. I swear I've put this up before and they have not voted for it. We want to save this one for Matt's voice. Yeah, save this for Matt's French. So his boss was the comp de mignon, aka the count of Armagnac. So just say that. Louis de Loren Gis.

Oh, geese. Giz. Oh. Guiz. I don't know. Guiz? Guiz. I've been quizzing a whole lot of them.

Guisey. Guise and the Jews. Maybe. You might have been a polysure type. So, yeah, this guy was working for was a big deal. He was the Grand Acquire de France. Okay, Grand Squire of France. Shit, that sounds huge.

The equivalent of in England the Master of the Horse, which I think is such a great title. And actually it gives me the perspective I needed because I wasn't quite sure of his position and power. But you say, oh, Master of the Horse, I go, got it. Say less King. I get it. Master of the Horse. You know, for the King, he's just the guy looks after all the horses. According to Adrian Bernard writing for the BBC, the Grand Equiry was an important.

Royal Officer in charge of all the King's horses and all the Kingsmen and equestrian academies. Yeah, we've been led astray by whatever that jingle, nursery arm. Yes, round. He would have overseen both Le Grande Equire as well as several smaller stables like La Petit Aquari. Also have the Grand and the Petit. Yes, we, we, we. Basically, it was the King's Horse boss.

Yep. Was he the King's Horse boss or the boss? the boss of the horse's kings I think both because he was master of the horse it sounds like there's only one horse it's the king horse so he looks after the king of horses

and then the king horse looks after its people, aka horses I make the king comfortable and he makes his people comfortable okay horses it's okay but it works and who are we to judge so this is the 1600s

it's been like that for centuries exactly do you know who the king would have been at the time Dave what's the 16 yes It was a same one for the whole 1670s. It's one of the big ones. It's going to be Louis.

It is Louis. For 15. The 14th, aka the Sun King. That's right. So she was the daughter of the guy who worked under the horse boss for the Sun King. Pretty impressive. Wow. Yeah.

And he was a king for ages. Yeah. Oui. According to Lauren Dillon writing for historic mysteries, the start of her scandalous personal life began when she was either 14 or 16, and She became the mistress of her father's employee, ployer, sorry, aka the horse boss, dumb and yak. And you might be like, oh, is that creepy? Dad's boss, is there an age gap?

Yes, it is creepy. Very gross. Thank you for getting in there because I was about to be like, that's hot. But you're right. I forgot she was a teenager. At least 29 years age gap. Yuck! Maybe more.

Yuck, yuck, yuck. And she's a teen, did you say? She's 14 or 16. So basically the age gap is double her age. Yeah, that's, no, that's gross. I think even for Leo, that would be too much. The horse... If I've asked to do that now, I'd be with a 92-year-old.

Just saying. What age would I be with? You'd be with a 92-year-olds. Pat? The calculator doesn't go as high for you. Matt would be with at least a 1,000-year-off. Okay. If you're being kind.

Yeah, I'm being very kind. Yeah, so the horse boss was a bit of a posse, piece of shit. Certainly by today's standards anyway. Just want to line the point. Yuck. He had six kids older than her at the time. Yeah, gross. Dillon continues.

Oh my God, that would mean that the 92 year old would have. That's always going to put in a term to you understand. The 92 year old could have kids older than me. Whoa. I mean, if she'd started young, I guess. Dylan continues. Can I be a step-down to people as old as my parents? I'll give it a try.

I'll do my best. They don't have to call me dad. Yet. That will take time. I will earn that title. Till then, I'm just GAV. Dylan can, I'm assuming we're playing a character there. Yeah.

Called Kevin for some reason. No, you forgot Dad's name for a minute. Dav, sorry, DAV. You can call me DAV. Hello, I'm DAV. Eventually, we'll swap the V for a D. Oh. It's an easier transition.

Yeah. They're calling you Dad. did. Dylan continues. He later arranged a marriage. This is the horse boss for her to cover up their affair. So she married Sire de Mopin of Saint-Germain-on-Lé. And this is why she is sometimes referred to as La Mompin or Madame de Mompin.

Okay, right, because the old guy married her off. Yes. To cover up their affair. The old guy did what her dad did? The old guy. Oh, gross. So why did he get to arrange a marriage for her? He was her dad's boss?

I don't know. It was a weird time. That's bizarre. He was like a real powerful guy. He's like top noble nobility in France at the time. Yark. I mean, of course, we're putting on a modern lens onto this distant historical. Yeah.

Epoch. Am I using that word right? I don't know. But yeah, you're absolutely right. But also... I haven't used many words right today. So why start now? It's almost impossible not to look at it through a modern lens.

And if we were... sitting here going, yeah, cool, sick, that would be so much worse. Yeah. So I'd rather look at it through a model lens and go, gross. Yeah, what a disgusting old man. Yes, I mean, definitely was. Yeah. I mean, surely even in that way.

The fact that he's covering it up with a marriage means. Yeah. So what, she's like 16 getting married? Mm. Yuck. Not long after their wedding. I was a child bride at 33. Mm.

Yeah, I was disgusted by. And I still say to my husband, who's younger than me, you sick fuck. What's wrong with you? What did you do? You married a young 133. 33-year-old. Oh, you monster. Not long after the wedding, her husband was sent to work in the south of France,

and Juliet de Bonnier stayed behind. It seems that the horse boss did this. He sent the new husband away. So it's basically like, you get married, so it's all cool. Yeah, yeah. But obviously I'm shipping off your new husband. Otherwise, he'd be getting in the way. He'd be the way of my affair.

So he sent him off to be a tax collector. And yeah, we don't really hear from him again. Author, Kelly Gardner, who wrote a book based on Dobonyi's life called Goddess, writes, some accounts claim he was sent off the morning after the wedding. Wow. Yeah, it was really just for show. Which is funny because the show doesn't really work if you are immediately going to send him off. Yeah, totally.

Like, it must be so transparent of what he was doing. If somebody was out of town and missed the wedding, they wouldn't know. You've got to appear publicly together a few times And then send him off Continue your disgusting affair Your absolute grot Yeah Okay

Come on do I have to explain everything to these grots So many grots So many grots It makes you wonder How did he become the boss of the horses The boss of the grots That's who he should have been He's the grot boss

The grot boss Westby writes It counts vary as to whether Damon yak The horse boss Became fed up with La Mopin's wild ways Or whether La Mopin

herself became bored with Dom and yak I mean, he was a hundred and two years old. I'm sure she was bored with him. That's right. He's so old. Did he just die from being old? He did it.

He lived a while. Great, because if he lives long enough, something's going to happen to his head. Just got to wait a couple of decades. Oh, fun off. So, yeah, either way, they sort of drifted and she became involved with another fencing master named Surung. things were serious enough that when Suran killed a man in an illegal jewel joling was illegal at the time Dave did a whole episode about silly jules at one point

Yeah the silliest jewels Did you do you remember any from this era I wonder if any of this came up I don't remember the episode so don't feel bad if you don't remember the episode at all Vagely Grin remember there was one where there were two guys in hot air balloons shooting at the other Hot Air Berlin to try and kill the other one which is insane That's pretty good

Jules in general are quite silly I think Yes What a funny way to solve problems. It's so funny. How don't we have a chat, boys? But I think if it is, I mean, with some of the logic, will let God decide? So whoever dies, that's who God disagreed with. Is that, was that some of the logic, maybe?

But then, yeah, maybe, but then you could just turn early and be a better shot. That's what God. That's what God told me to do that. Yeah, so they, so her new sort of bow kills this guy. It's an illegal jewel. He'll get done for it. So they flee together before charges could be brought. In pursuit, and this is a little aside, we don't hear from him again,

but in pursuit was a guy called Nicola Gabriel de la Rémy, Lieutenant Jean-Rueil, or police. He was the founder of the First Modern Police force. Was he the Lieutenant General of the police? How did you get that? Do you speak a little French? A little, you know, just do a lingo level. And yeah, from there, they lived off.

life on the run. For the pursuit, Sisi Perez writes, in order to cover for their expenses while traveling together, the two would give fencing demonstrations at local taverns and fairs where she could perform,

where she could publicly adorn herself in men's clothing during performances. Oh, it was allowed to be a costume. Mm. Well, I obviously dressed in a costume to come to work. Yeah, you wouldn't wear that on the street. Oh, my God. You look ridiculous.

All those feathers. All these pants? These feather pants. I quite enjoyed this next paragraph that Gardner writes. At one demonstration, a man refused to believe she was really a woman because she was simply too good. So she took off her blouse and the crowd fell silent. Wow, look at these.

Silent is such a funny reaction. Yeah. I can't even. My God, it is a woman. My reaction to just free titties would be, Woo! Just silence. And that's a different time, you know?

Yes. Now you're allowed to cheer for boobs. Yeah. And that's nice. That's a beautiful calm, yeah. I mean, how do you think if somebody first said I was sitting lovely? Such a funny phrase. Sit and lovely.

I don't know what it was. That's real good. If no one had said it before, we've certainly made up for that in the last half hour. Gordon of Westby, since they both had good voices, they also added singing to their performances. So they're doing a bit of swordsmanship. Love it. And then just a bit of singing at the same time.

In the Navy. During this period of travel with Surong, she had her first experience with professional opera singing, as Westby continues. Though she had no formal musical training, her pleasing voice, natural gift for music, and physical attractiveness enabled her to take some roles

at the recently founded Opera de Marseille. A lack of formal music education was not a hindrance for an opera career at the time and her natural singing and acting talent and prodigious memory

compensated for her own experience. That comes up a bit in different sources. They all talk about how she just could really remember words to songs and that was like she was particularly good at that.

She's like, don't worry, I sound terrible but I know the words to like 50,000 songs. Here they are. Lock the doors. Here they are. Here they are.

Strap in. Cotner Cudel, the love affair with Sourin quickly fizzled out. The Desmondi's love of fencing was a passion that would run throughout her whole life. She loved nothing better than a jewel as well, and she killed or at least wounded more than 10 men in doing so. The anti-jewing laws in France were becoming much more. more strict at the time though, and this would end up causing more trouble for her down the line, which we'll get to in a bit. She is remembered for a talent with the sort of course, but has an equally

impressive career on the stage in opera, which is often overshadowed because of like the shenanigans she got up to, which I'll talk about. But I figure I'll talk a bit about her opera career as well. But before we get to that, I guess I'll have to touch on her career as an opera singer. That's amazing. Yeah, at the Paris opera. And just to be naturally good at it is crazy. Like someone goes, oh, you're pretty good at singing. And she's like, oh, was I singing?

I was meant to be doing a sword demonstration. Oh, I thought I was just doing fencing. Yeah. Just come so naturally. Doing two things brilliantly. Oh, that's weird. I wonder how many other things I could be brilliant at. I'm also wearing pants.

Brilliantly. I didn't notice that. Brilliantly. Yeah, off the shelf, off the rack, these are. No tailoring required. Perfect legs. Um, yeah, so she was a real double threat, I guess you could say. Uh, but I, this is, of all the stories, this is maybe my favorite, one of my favorites. And this is one of the ones that I reckon

led to a lot of people suggesting the topic. Um, so as the story goes, while she was singing with the Marseille opera, uh, she struck up a relationship with her local merchant's daughter, the daughter had come and seen the opera performance and they got on a romance blossomed the daughter's name has lost to history so I figured let's call her Celine I looked up common French names Love that, okay, yep, Celine

I wrote the next couple of paragraphs referring to her, it was annoying so I just added her name. Apparently, yeah, she met Domainé while performing at the opera DeMossi when Celine's parents found out they put an immediate stop to the affair, sending Celine, their daughter,

to a convent in Avignon, get there to an honor, he said. So put her with heaps more women. Oh, yeah. People are dumb. Oh, no, you can't, you can't like women like that. We're sending you to a lot of women. Yeah.

Like, dumb. Yeah. Send her to like a gentleman's club or something. I don't know, where do lots of boys go? A gentleman club. Send it to a job site. That'll put you off, men. Get on the tools.

You got to learn a trade, young lady. Yeah, Dubonnier was under-terred, hatching a cunning plan. And yeah, the details of the story vary a little based on the source. We're leaning in. Crucks of it is, well, they all tell this story. They're just the slight detailed changes. The crux is that Debonier followed her lover, Celine, to the convent in Avignon, with the intention of breaking her out.

story say she became a nun, which is the best. Fuck, yeah. But others are like, she went through rigorous training. I reckon others, she knocked on the front door. Yeah, yeah. The next step in their plan, and I don't know if this plan was improvised, it probably was, but I like to think that she thought of this ahead of time. The next step, so she's found Celine, next step, finding a body.

Okay. A body to use as a decoy. This is awesome. Babe, just put pillows under the blankets and off you go. Well, that wouldn't work in this case because they needed remains to be found. This is awesome. Surely there's a cemetery nearby, right? Luckily, there was a recently deceased nun at the convent.

Perfect. It seems like the nun was already dead, but, you know. You know, Julie's pretty good with a sword, let's just say. How recent. She says standing over the body of a nun pulling of a sword. Pretty recent, actually, yeah. So then the pair took the body and placed it in Celine's bed. Next, they set the bed on fire.

Oh, my God. This is exactly like the opening of the Arnold Schwarzeneggerna's film, Eraser. You've been erased. You've been erased. Sorry, again? You've been erased. First time was better. Really?

Better than that. Sorry, was Arni? First time raised. Now it's Christopher Walken. That's interesting. I didn't realize how similar they were. First time of race. Wait, first time erased.

I've just taken in, you say first time I've added it in. They've got a very mushy brain. Translating into France and translating back to English. First time erased. You're bad erased. I like the erased. That's good. So the idea was that the authorities would assume Celine died in the fire

and they would be able to live laugh-love without being bothered. Perfect. Depending on the source, either just the room or the entire, Convent ended up burning down. Oh, dear. But the plan worked. The lovers were on the run for the next three months. They got away with it.

Because no one looks for a dead woman. No, why would you bother? She's dead. Double jeopardy. Double jeopardy. Can't get in trouble for making out with this dead woman. Yeah. She's dead.

Yeah. Is there a crime to make out with a dead woman? Am I not allowed a tongue a ghost? What kind of country, nanny state is this? Hey, baby, come over for some tongue in. I'm just ghost tongue in. That's all right? So, yeah, they're on the run.

But again, it sounds like the affair fizzled out. Oh, gosh. Her passion burns hot, but it doesn't it? And then she's like, I'm over it. It would be annoying to go through all that effort than to realize that, oh, I'm bored of this. Yeah, you're actually kind of dull. I have faked your death while I'm a bit bored.

Yeah. So apparently... You want to really be committed to someone if you're going to fake their death. To make sure that this is for... at least a couple of years. I'm not even sure I'd fake my husband's death, to be honest. Yeah, you're not that committed. Plenty efficiency.

Yeah. A bit of paper, I could burn that too. This is way easier. And I get to keep my stuff. Yeah. So, um, so they're on the run, but the fair fizzles out and Celine ends up returning to her parents, which was quite a surprise for the Dion's, as they believed their daughter had died in a nunnery fire months earlier.

So, aren't they grateful she's... back and how about we put the whole the whole girl on girl stuff behind us? I'm saying for the parents, not that Celine can fuck her over if she wants to fuck, good for you. You know, you get a girlfriend. I don't give a shit. Yeah. I'm saying the parents

who obviously have a problem with it because of the 1600s. Yeah, come on. I hope they, I hope they... So how about you just be grateful your daughter's alive? Yes. And don't worry about who she was tongue in. Yeah. Or do you reckon they took her word for her? Because last week's episode you talked about a French guy

came back I wonder if she I wonder if she could still speak French Imagine that Well the Narnery was in France Oh my God So probably And she's French

Yeah So I don't think she ever stopped speaking French That's my guess That's my guess I reckon she got away with it Yeah While she was speaking in French French kisses

Oh Is that how you do them With a closed purse slips And just in quick succession Oh kiss me French Dave, please. So Celine's re-emergence led to the full story coming out,

which in turn led the Parliament of en-Provence, casting its judgment on her. What? De Bonilly, that is. Okay. Got in a cuddle. De Bonilly was later charged with kidnapping, body snatching, and arson, and was sentenced to death by fire. That is full on.

That is full on. But also, Salane, I guess I understand you guys are fizzled. You don't have to go gabin, okay? Still a very romantic gesture. Yeah. To kill a nun. Yes. Use her body.

Yes. Allegedly, kill a nun. Probably killing none. We're alleging that. No one else did. And a relationship fizzled. A bit of fun though, wasn't it? Sometimes you have to do stuff for the plot.

Mm. That's what young people are saying these days. Do it for the plot. Yeah. You know? fucking elseling you don't have to go fucking deeper-dobbing just her re-emerging must have amazing well who was that body in the fire and they you know maybe she didn't necessarily squeal if you know what I mean um maybe I don't know what I said if you know what she was with

Julie let me tell you well that's why it fizzled out there was no squealing oh okay you gotta have that you got you got so she's been sentenced to death by fire that's full on but they don't mean firing squad do they no A bit of fire Yes He's a bit of fire At the stake Have this until you die

Have it Yeah That's an awful way to go This verdict was brought down Without having her in custody though They hadn't caught her

Yeah So the sentencing was done In absentia And according to Gardner This was done Under the name Cia de Moping As in Sir

As in As in you know She was charged as a man Why? Why? Well according to Gardner, the judges couldn't quite admit the possibility of one woman abducting another, let alone from a convent.

Oh, yeah. So it must have been a man. Yeah. This was quite a big crime. A man must have been. We think a woman did a crime like this. Come on. You sound stupid.

You sound stupid. Just listen to yourself. Listen to yourself. While a fugitive, she moved to Paris, where she bumped into a man named Comte d'Albee. Sorry? Count of Albert. So count Albert in Paris. Got it.

Compte d'Albert. In... In Paris, yeah. Paris, yeah. Paris, back, Paris. Do you, I imagine it's like D. Albert. Yeah. Dave, would that Albert become Albert or something like that?

Well, they would say Albert. Yeah. Comte d'Albert. So D'Albert challenge her to a duel. They bump, like, I think they literally bumped into each other walking past. Oh, like. And he goes, like, challenge D'E. to a jewel.

And he doesn't realize that she's a woman. She's wearing pants. And she easily defeated him. And then helped him treat his wounds and nursed him back to health. Then the two became lovers briefly. Beautiful. Before becoming lifelong friends. Oh, that's nice.

What a meat cute. Is that what that is? That's a meat cute. She sounds like she must be so charismatic. Everybody who meets her and wants to kill her, then wants to fuck her. Yeah, they're confused. Like, I don't know. What I want to do?

I want to do something to you. Oh, you're so sexy. Yeah, she sounds, is there a TV show? Just follow episodic, like, Xena style following this character, just traveling around. But it's got to be like an after 9pm kind of show. Probably after midnight kind of show because it gets. But like each week there's like a new adventure slash new lover. Like that's fun.

Imagine this, but like Bridgeton. What sort of time period is Bridgeton? Regency, sort of 1800s. Yeah, this is even earlier. Yeah. But imagine that. She's off on her adventure. and then.

So Regencies, 1800s. What does it have a word like that? What's this French aristocracy? But that's a lot of big people. But the Sun King, he's very famous, who's on the throne for like 60 years or something. Wow. What do you hell?

Wow. Wow. I went Wilson thinks that's cool. And I did say earlier that the French Revolution was only a couple of decades away, but that's actually the next century. So this guy that we hated at the start will have to live over 100 years

to make it to have his head cut off. really liked it, you waited long enough to get tweets. Yeah, I know. Well, I wasn't going to mention it, but now we're talking about the Sun King again. Because he was King for so long. You've changed. You've grown. Years ago, you would have been like, can you? I need you to add out that bit where I said a date a bit wrong.

I don't want to look like a fool. Yeah. Well, I did. Looks like a full. Come at me. tweet me. I don't even read it anymore. At Paris, in Paris, in Paris.

In Paris. She also started a relationship with opera singer, Gabriel, Vincent, Cévenon. Gabriel, Vincent, Thevernard. How would you say Thevernard with a... I thought you said Savignon. Gabriel. Gabriel. Gabriel.

Vincent. Featheryard. Oe Feathers. O'Ethernyard. Yeah, anyway. Okay. GVT. And is this a Gabriel or a Gabriel?

Do you know what I mean? Oh my God. Male, female. Male. Okay, thank you. And then... answer your own question? Gabriel.

Okay, it's Gabriel. What was I saying, Gabriel? I was just checking. So I caught a cuddle, GVT, auditioned for the Paris Opera and was hired right away. This is that guy, Gabriel. Yeah. I'll just say Gabriel.

Infatuated with his new love, of course, as everyone is. Everyone is obsessed with her. God. Must be nice. He also, he heard her sing. Can you imagine being that enigmatic? Yeah, imagine. It sounds, doesn't it sound a bit like it'd be a nightmare?

you're like, I really just want a little... It seems like she wants to fuck too, though. Oh, that's true. Yes, but... I made a bit of a vow to myself. Just this week, I said, I'm going to try to say fuck less on the podcast. Okay.

And I'm really letting them fly today. So far, you're sticking to that vow. You have sworn a lot less today than usual. Yeah, that's true. Just kidding. Because your mouth is filth. Yeah. It's not very ladylike, is it?

Very unbecoming of the lady. I'm glad you're only using that F slur this time, random. According to cuddle, wait, I've said this. Every time he said it, it makes me think of cuddle. Cuddle. Like it's not Cuttle, it's Cuddle. Yeah, because reading it, I think Cuddlefish, but Cuddles way nice.

Yeah. So, yeah, he's infatuated. He realizes she's got a bit of a singing voice as well, like he does. So when he goes to audition for the Paris Opera, he's tied right away. and he says, I'll join as long as my girlfriend gets to audition as well. Here's the thing, though, based on how her relationships go, and they fizzle, now you're working together. That's right, you're both on a contract? Yeah, and you've just split up, it's fresh, it's raw, and she's probably straight onto the next person.

Yeah, someone, when are your classmates. I'm saying, like, you go girl. Because people are in love with her, and she's also pretty happy to give that love out, you know? she's got an appetite oh yeah okay i'm just saying gabriel be careful here yeah mate come on the um the opera reluctantly obliged and gave her an audition as well and cuddle writes after realizing how talented she was because remember she's still on the run from the laws she's meant to be dying by fire oh yeah oh yeah um but they realized how talented she was cuttle rights the opera helped persuade the king to lift the death sentence so that she could join them.

Because the director of the opera just fell in love. That's absurd. Please, sir, you have to. She's so pretty. Let her go, please. She's so pretty. I want to smooch her, please. It would be a crime to take this talent.

I want a French kiss her. Away. Plus, you, yeah, who you put to death, that was a man. This is not a man. He's clearly not a man. Not a man. Must have been some voice, right? But she made it how good she sounds.

Yeah. She became a star of the opera from 1690 to 1694. She wasn't like the lead, but she was, she was a great character actor. Oh, yeah, of course, yeah. That's what I'm. That's a really good tree. That's what I'd want. No, you know, she played a bunch of great characters.

I don't want to be the star. I want to be, you know, backing up the star. Funny friend. Here if you need. Yeah. And this is when she took the stage name La Mopin, which is why history often refers to her as that name because that was that was why she was really a big star is because of her opera career um and yeah there she performed for high society to much acclaim interestingly uh opera as an

art form was at that stage less than a century old feels like the kind of thing oh it's been around forever but yeah obviously everything starts at some point supposedly podcasting less than a century isn't that that's hard to get your head around i know in 400 years people will be like back in the time when do go on we're actually early podcasters Yeah And now everyone

I mean it feels like We've done some episodes I went for a century History's Sank of a football club But in 400 years time Like opera This will be considered High art

Yes That you have to pay a large ticket price for Yeah And young people go Oh no The name Warnocky Would be like What we think of the word

Shakespeare now Yeah Thank you Yeah And what do you think of the word Shakespeare? I think, ugh, boring. Can't understand the word they're saying.

Get to the point. Can't we put on a hologram? Out, out, stem spot, shut up. So, yeah, it was, apparently it's generally accepted that the first opera was the Italian Jacobo Perry Daphne, uh, Jacopo Perry's Daphne, which was written in the 1590s. And it was even newer to France, as Westby writes, After the introduction of Italian opera to France in 1645, the Italian-born Jean-Baptiste Lully set about creating a distinct French national opera.

Louis Xonking founded the Academy of Opera in 1669, and Lully was in charge of the opera from 1679 until his death, during which time only his own operas were performed. You liking how boring that is? No, no. No, 69. Oh, no. We just looked at each other like, yeah, Dave just nodded at me.

So who was the guy who's... 16, 69. It was Lully's only his opera were before. Wow. Wow. So, yeah, for decades? For quite a while, yeah. But, yeah, as a quirkier side, and Dave, I don't know if you remember this.

You recognize his name, Lally, the, the opera conductor. Yeah, the name John Baptiste Lully does make... But, yeah. Do I know the name? Horney? Does make me horny. Does make me horny. Episode 115 of who knew of Matt Stewart.

We talked about this over at Live in London with, who was on that episode? The Lawman. Oh, yes, the most recent live. So I thought you met when we first went. Yes. Yeah, according to Maddie Shaw Roberts. So, yeah, this is just an aside about Lully. Oh, yes, the death.

Yes, according to classic ofm.com, Lully loved to compose music that could be danced to. As many conductors did at the time, the Italian board and maestro would conduct his work using a large wooden conducting staff in lieu of today's lighter one like baton. One evening he was conducting a performance of teedium. Tidium? Tidium, yeah.

That seems about right for classical music, am I right? This was a work he had composed to celebrate Louis the 14th's recovery from surgery. Rather ironically, though, this was the night Lully accidentally struck his own foot with the staff. As Westby continues, his leg became infected with gangrene, but he refused. the doctor's wish to amputate as this would prevent him from dancing and the infection spread and Lully died in 1687 at the age of 54. So he died because he, you know, death before dishonour or death before not being able to dance. And 54 back then, it's probably a pretty good innings. Yeah, not bad. Whatever. But yes, that's how I know that name. That's so funny. Wow.

See a doctor, people. When you get an infection? He saw the dog who's like, Like, nah, what do you know? Yeah. I'll die painfully instead, thank you. Antibiotics, no, thank you. You know what else stops you from dancing? Being dead. Yeah, definitely can't dance.

So, yeah, it was three years after Lully's untimely death that Dabon-Y made La Mopin made her debut in the December 19, 1690 revival of Lully's first opera, Cadmus at Hermione. So they're still doing his opera even after he died. I thought that after that guy's out there. I think, I can finally get some new... Get some fresh stuff in. According to Westby, her notoriety had preceded her,

and this is much as her singing talent caused a sensation at her debut. After finishing her part, Le Mopin acknowledged the audience approval by doffing her helmet and bowing, allowing her long blonde hair to flow over her shoulders, thereby inspiring even more frenzied applause. Look at her hair! Wow! She's taking off her helmet.

I think this is mid-show as well, which is pretty funny. He was just losing their mind. And they thought she was a man? Or is it just that they were excited to see her hair? Oh my God, naked hair. It's so beautiful! Wow! What chip?

Who do you use? Her star quickly rose and she appeared regularly for the Paris Opera over the next few years. But as often happened with her career, she didn't get a clear on at anything. There was always some, she was, you know, she never did anything for too long before being on the run from the law again. Yeah, okay. And, yeah, as her career was really taking off at Ground or Holt with more offstage controversy. So she attended a court ball, real fancy suiore. And she attended dressed in men's clothing, which is, you know, a little scandalous.

Unacceptable. And she was, she was chatting to this society lady, you know, and a very, very, very, you know, a very, you know, a very little. very in demand society lady. This particular lady was, had three noblemen trying to court her that night. In the end, though, de Bonnier was the one who ended up hooking up with her. And this left the three noblemen fuming.

They were P-Oed. She is so charismatic. It's incredible. She's so smooth. She's rocked up in. I thought you were going to say, because she's talking to this, like, in-demand, like, high society woman.

I thought she's going to be like not, doesn't want to be seen talking to it, because they were all about status and all about being seen doing the right things. And I thought she was going to be like, I can't be seen talking to a woman in men's clothing. She's like, I'm a fuck here. These no women, boring.

Yeah. You seem way more fun. So because of that. I love her. She's, yeah, I think it's just, I've really enjoyed learning about. out of it. So each of the men, individually, the noble men, challenged de bonnier to a jewel. She's going to kill all three of them.

She, because it was still a big no-no dueling, outlawed by the king. But she was never wanted to back down from a fight. And Gardner writes, she told each of them she would meet him outside, fought them all at once and beat them all. That's awesome. All out of one. And it's funny because, like, you can imagine it would have been completely. unacceptable to challenge a woman to a jewel as well, but that all three of that,

and she just beats them all at once. It's so good. Like, I'm fighting, hey, you've, you've made me look foolish at this fray. I challenge you to a jewel. This is, you know, protect my image. Oh, no. I've, uh, I've gone all in and lost. I actually think this a bit really fun video game too. Yeah. If they didn't die, you reckon they'd be like, we have to leave town. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be hoping for dead. Unfortunately for our hero, this meant she was once again on the run from the law. So, Westby writes, escaping to Brussels, she resumed her singing career appearing in the opera over there between late 1697 and mid-1698. During her staying in Brussels, she was the mistress of the Elector of Bavaria, which is another like big-time position.

Her wild behaviour showed no sign of abating, though, during a suicide scene in a Johann Wolfgang Frank Opera, and possibly due to some sort of fight with her electa lover, she intentionally stabbed herself with a dagger, like it's sort of making a, like making a scene. Oh, I mean, I think it's been clear this entire time that she's crazy. Yeah, yeah. Right, but like, she's like, she's chaos. Yeah, yeah. She's a rascal.

She's a better rascal. She's a better. She's greatest rascals. She is a rascal, yeah. So apparently, this elector of Bavaria is like, holy shit, she's a lot. And so he offered her 40,000 francs to leave. It's like, I can't handle this. I love you, but it's too much.

Please have a heap of money. Just go away. I love you, but I can't be near you. Why won't anyone pay me to leave? I would go in a heartbeat. But apparently she threw the money at his feet. She didn't take it. No.

Bitch, take the money. Take it, then go to the next town. You deserve it. You stabbed yourself. Yeah, go to the next town. Cause some more chaos there. Yes. You're rascal.

She did. She did go onto another town. Condor Gardner. She stomped off to Madrid in a huff. She found herself working as a maid to a countess named Marino. Oh, they're going to fuck. And she, no, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, really didn't like her, so much so that one night when she was getting her countess ready for

a ball, unbeknownst to the countess, she did a- Put kick me on the back of the dress. She threaded into her like extravagant hairdo radishes, so I was just full of radishes. But the countess didn't, couldn't tell. She didn't know until she went to the ball. She's like, how do I look back there? Fantastic. Gorgeous. You're absolutely ratishing. That almost makes sense.

That was very good. But yeah, apparently she's like, she's basically going, I'm leaving. Yeah. But there's a final up yours before I go, I'm going to do this. And she wasn't there when the countess was furiously returned home. She wasn't there anymore. That's so funny. Sorry, yeah, countess, there appears to be some radishes in your hair.

Who's going to tell the countess that, you know? That's so funny because it's also quite harmless. Yeah, that's right. Those are the best sort of pranks of where it's like, okay, so take the radishes out of your hair. You're good. Well, I'd like to think that the countess, you know, there'd be certain personality types. And I think maybe one might have been one who would have been like, yeah, I know. Well, everyone will be doing this soon.

And then everyone would be doing it. That's how we have radishes in our hair. Yep. You know, if this contest was more confident about it. about it. Yeah. That'd just be a common thing now. She's a countess.

She's powerful. People would copy her. Yeah. Idiot. So all of this, of course, is happening while she's still essentially a fugitive in France. She's wanted for... Three jewels. For triple dueling.

Triple double. But are people like, a woman couldn't have done that? Yeah. Yeah. It must be a man that we just can't see. But she must have had the ear of the Sun King's brother. I think his name was Philippe, because apparently he, I think he was, I think he was a cross-dressing guy himself. So I think in certain ways the Sun King maybe was softer than he might have been on such things.

Right. Because he's like, no, I love my brother. Otherwise, if it wasn't for someone I know, which is always a fun way to, you know, be a bigger. Now that I have a daughter, I finally understand that women are people. Yes, yeah, yeah. But apparently his brother did convince the king to once again pardon her. So she was able to return back and she started working for the Paris Opera again. And the woman who did take most of the lead roles at the time had since retired.

So she was now taking on leading roles. So that period where she was on the rise wasn't the peak. She's come back and now she's become a legit start, hitting the peak of her career between the years of 1698 and 16. 1705. But of course, I've skipped through seven years of success there. Yeah. It's not as interesting, even though, but very good.

Yeah. But anyway, more controversy came was always nearby, which led to her being a household name, even famous beyond opera, the opera scene. People knew her, oh, she's that wild cat. That's the kind of term the French would use. Doesn't make any sense to me. No, but it's a different language, different culture. How do you say cat in French?

Shat? Shat! Shat! Is it Shat? I don't think it's Shat. A wild Shat is something very different, though. He'll show us. It will be Shat.

Shat. It's Shat. It's shot. It is Shet. Shet. But no, you'd say shat, and then a French person would go, I do not know what it is. You are pointing at the people.

at a picture of a cat and you are saying shit I do not understand A stupid Australian You mean shit So yeah So she's still She's still famous Infamous

Westby writes that she became the subject of gossip As well as popular songs of the time And her old lover Gabrielle Which one's this? He's the one who helped to get hired By her Parasopri said, I'll only join if you let my girlfriend audition.

Oh, of course. He was still there at the company. So she's come back and they're kind of reacquainted. And the couple resumed their tempestuous relationship on and off stage. During one of their spats, she bit his ear during a performance drawing blood. During one of their shats? Right. Yeah.

But I mean, that's a spectacle for the audience. You're like, whoa. Yeah. She's just giving them what they want. She is. She was their generation. what's that boxer? Mike Tyson.

Keep it in the audience in the opera yelling at. Bite, bite his ear. Give him the chair! Give him what they want. That's what they want. She is wild. Yeah.

Yeah. During these years, Gardner writes, she defended chorus girls against letterous barons and pompous tenors, became infatuated with the soprano Fanshaun Morro, tried to kill herself,

threatened to blow the Duchess of Luxembourg's brains out and ended up in court for attacking her landlord. Okay. So she would like... She is hot-headed. She's someone I would not want to be friends with.

No. It would just be like, you'd catch up for brunch and you're like, oh, what the fuck now? She's like, sorry, I'm late. I'm on the run. Yeah. Oh, I got my mouth still filled with blood from the show last night. Like, I bit his ear. What the fuck?

There's two options. The waiter's coming over. Two things are going to happen between her and the waiter. She's either going to order. Yes. Or she's going to auga. Orgasm. Orga.

Thank you for respect. I did not get it. That's what we all call it, though. Auger. Yeah. This is my auger face. Sorry, I'm late. I had to auger.

It's natural. Let me talk up a bit of her on-stage stuff, though. Westby riots. Oh, let Westby do it even. She appeared in over two dozen. different stage productions, including operas, opera ballets and concerts. She performed for the king like at little suarez at the at the science of as well. She originated 25 roles for the opera, and existing roles were sometimes rewritten

to better suit her lower vocal range. Though a soprano, her lower range and assertive character made her unfit for the gentle and naive qualities then associated with soprano roles. Instead, she excelled in roles of goddesses and strong fighting women, perhaps taking a cue from her habit of cross-dressing offstage. Some later biographers claim that she specialized in trouser roles, i.e. male characters, but in fact, all the roles she has known to have sung of female characters. Westby also writes, the famous diarist Philip DiCosion,

Marquis de Dengu, saw La Mopin in a performance around this time, and the writer declared that La Mopin had the, quote, most beautiful voice in the world. Well That's been I mean he hadn't heard Beyonce honey

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah I thought of Had heard of I had her to Beyonce I guess

Yeah I guess Never Who's what's Beyonce Chobliver Something I'd fully forgotten about By this stage Was that

La Mopin was still married to Mr Mopin And in these years He hasn't seen her Since the wedding night Yeah Well he returns

At this time And Westby notes That quote Disappies not to have hindered her extramarital relationships at all, her bisexual affairs, cross-dressing, sword-fighting, all continued unabated.

I'll finish up with a bit of a bitter sweet love story, a bit of love and loss for L'Ampopin. But yeah, this is sort of towards the end of her life. Westby writes, in 703, she began an affair with the famous and wealthy Madame Le Mackey de Florence Sac. Florence Sac. Florence Sac.

I mean, it's in it, like, I would pronounce that if I wasn't doing a spot on French accent. Florescac, yeah. Okay. But yeah, we call her Madame la Mucky de Florence. Oh, okay, yep, I'm going to call her that. But she was considered one of the greatest beauties in France, although she was also scandalously promiscuous. At till this point, she was only involved with men, seemingly. But this was until she encountered La Mopin.

The two lived together relatively quietly for the next two years, which is, Westby says, is the longest continuous romantic relationship of her life. She's finally settling down, huh? Yes. But yeah, this is why it's the bitter part of the, that's the sweet part. But then in May of 1705,

La Mopin debuted what was to be her last role as Isabel in La Venetian by the famous floutest Michel de Lebert. During the run of Lebert's opera, Devloins Sague became ill with fever and died two days later on July the 2nd. So she, the two years into this, she's just settling down,

careers going great on stage, then the love of her life just dies sort of almost overnight. Devastated by the loss, she retired from the stage. Oh, wow. According to some accounts, she lived quietly with her husband for the remainder of her life. Other accounts have her spending the rest of her life in a monastery.

Wow. Possibly, you know, a nunnery sort of thing. What would you prefer living with your husband? It's weird that, it's not weird. It's just interesting, again, that her charisma that after all that time, her husband's like, yeah, of course, move in. Yeah, no worries. That's amazing and bizarre.

It's unknown how she. died but what was unbelievably to me, even though I knew it at the start of reading about her, I'd forgotten, but she died in 70.07, meaning she was only in her mid-30s, somewhere between 33 and 37. Wow. Whoa. Yeah. I was picturing how much older by this? Same, yeah. That's why I was like, okay, she's settling down a little, you know? Yeah. But you know what you said before we started that she packed a lot into her life? I'm like, yeah, did she? Wow. Like when you know, she possibly only lived or 33. Yeah.

It's just kind of hard to get your head around. Wow. Packed so much in a short life. Finally, Kelly Gardner wrote about the legend of Julie de Bonnier after death and how her name has lived on writing. She's been the subject of many books and biographical works, at least one film, several plays, a ballet, numerous memes, and a French TV series. She was most famously...

There is a series. Yes. She was most... Probably not as horn as we want it to be. Oh, that's French. It's true. She was most famously reimagined in the 19th century by Theopal Gautier in his novel, Mademoiselle de Maupin, which in which the essence of her life, although not her real

life, became an enduring symbol of beauty, the romantic ideal, and decadence. So that is the story of Julie de Bonnier, aka Le Mopin. What a life. History's greatest rascal. What a rascal? What do you reckon? I think she owns that top. That's awesome.

She's so chaotic. Yeah. But you're also still rooting for her a little bit. But she seems like she'd be so full on to be around. Oh, you're 100% right that you're like, I couldn't handle that. You'd too much. You'd want to have sex with her. Exactly.

And I just can't handle that. But you can also understand why that Bavarian elector. Was that who it was? Yeah, just paid her money. He was like, please leave. You're like, I just can't. You're trouble. You're in trouble for me, everyone around.

Just go somewhere else. Be the best night of your life with her. Yeah, that was awesome, but I can't do that ever again. I'm exhausted. He's like he's aged a decade. I need a rask. Wow. What a story.

Well, no wonder so many people suggested that topic. I can't believe how many people suggested it, but that goes to show. It was an awesome story. They were absolutely right to. I closed it. I was going to see what I'd written down. Because, yeah, I reckon I have put that up for a vote before. and I just had a little thing written,

17th century badass French opera singer and swordswoman from a wealthy and prestigious family had many love affairs with men and women despite being married, jewelled people who crossed her, went on the lamb, like it just keeps going, you're like, and now that you realise 33, 34, that is insane. What a great story, loved that. Like, because she had two separate runs being a star in the opera

in Paris and in between she was working elsewhere in Belgium and Spain. Yeah. Wild. Amazing. Saw a lot of the world. Yeah. What a life. But yeah, just a wild story.

Yeah, it feels like maybe could be a new movie, surely. Surely it's time. Like they do a new Robin Hood every four years. Yeah, make it a Netflix series. Give it to, who does, Bridgeton, isn't that Shonda rhymes? Yeah. Give it to them and make it horny. If I could just have one request.

Am I sounding too desperate for horny? I don't know if you could tell her story without it being a bit horny. Because she's so charismatic. Everyone's really drawn to her. It's fascinating. I just think it's obviously very interesting to me as somebody who repels people. It's very interesting to be like, oh, there are people out there who people are like drawn to. Not people going, oh, my phone's reing.

I have to go It's fascinating Yeah So are you at Greying World's Greatest Restle Oh yeah Dizzy's number two now He's moved down

Sorry Dizzy He seems a bit too Straight laced I think Uh Yeah He's not bonkers enough For me This bitch is bonkers

Bonkers That's very good Well I think that brings us To everyone's favourite section In the show Hang on let me just check where, oh yeah, it does.

You're really good at explaining what this section is all about, actually. Thank you so much. Sorry, Dave, he was talking to you. Oh, well, this is time to shine a light on our Patreon supporters. She's throwing you around the bus. I was talking to Jess. I know you were. Because you're also going to get me to explain the trip toitch club in a minute as well.

You throw it back. Well, you should just pass the ball around. Pop potato. Basically, people support this show on Patreon at patreon. on at patreon.com slash do go on pod and without them we simply could not do the show. We'd cease to exist. Yes, we'd be nothing. We'd fade away with that.

You think I'd still be here? I don't think so. As in on this mortal coil? No. You keep us going. The way you support the show is go to patreon.com slash go on pod and in exchange you get rewards as well as knowing you support the show. We give you four bonus episodes per month plus 250 in the back catalogue that grows every single

week. You can be in the Facebook group, which is the lovely part of the internet, the nicest place someone say. You get to hear about live shows before anyone else, get discount tickets, vote for topics. This one was voted for, Matt. I think you said you put up seven or eight topics. I put up eight topics.

I'll tell you that, and because this was to the Sydney-Schenberg level or above. All right. So I think there was. Every vote counts at that level. Yeah, I think there was maybe half the people, like I think there was maybe 60-ish votes. I'm not sure exactly. but there were three votes separating first and fifth. Three votes.

Wow. The only one that was clear to me that I won't put up for the vote again for a while was Stonehenge, one vote. Nobody's interested. I'm like, to me, I'd love to know more about Stoich. Yeah, I want to know more. One vote. People are like, no. The people have spoken.

They said, a horny sword fighter or Stonehenge or some stones in a circle. What will I choose? So yeah, go to patreon.com slash do go on a pod. We also have this section of the show where people submit a fact, a quote, or a question, which I believe may have a jingle that sounds something like this. Fact quote or question. Dome. She always remembers the thing, and he always remembers the dong.

So in this section of the show, people on the Sydney-Sharmberg level or above get to give us a fact-quot or question or a brag or a suggestion or really, whatever they like. They also get to give themselves a title. I don't read them out until I read them out on the show. First up this week, we have Kevin West, aka Brad Piss's stunt double, Bruce Tinkle. Just the mention of Brad Piss, set him off again.

He landed it with Tinkle. Bruce Tinkle. That's such a good stuntman name. You laughed so hard at Brad Piss you thought you were going to throw up. Yeah, I did. And then it got even better with Prist. That's such a good character name. good. Hi, I'm stuntman, Bruce Tinkle. And Kevin West, okay, Bruce Tinkle is offering us a fact this week,

writing, the town of Heldsburg, California, where I live, is in the beautiful wine country north of San Francisco. But grapes were not always the main agricultural crop here. In fact, after Prohibition, the biggest crop in our area was prunes. The prune industry had such an impact on my little town that Heraldberg still has a collegiate level, summer league baseball team called the prune packers. That's so good. The prune packers. This town is also flushed with cougars, and I don't mean the cats. What I'm referring to here is an affluent divorced, or maybe not, woman over 50 who loves

Chardonnay and younger men. Is he there what? Even behind her large designer sunglasses of cougars laser gaze can burn through the pants of the pool boy. Oh, la la, jess, are you loving this? I need a moment. So how do these two demographics collide? Well, the prune packer players come from colleges all over the United States,

and when they arrive to Heraldberg for a glorious summer of baseball, they are assigned a host family. Oh my God. Many of these families are baseball fans or have an extra room and just want to help, but the cougars also love to host a muscle-bodied 18 to 22-year-old. What happens next is up to your imagination. Is this official stuff? This is...

This sounds like fan fiction for the town. Bruce Tinkley, you're writing fan fiction for the town. Are they college people? They're not high school kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, college. 18 to 20. Yeah, go, go, go, sorry. Yeah.

It's still a little weird, but it's less, you know, less so. Thank you for listening to my pitch for a new reality TV show. And thank you for do go on. I listen so much that I've started saying things like, I reckon and my friends laugh at me because we don't say this in the US. But boy, do they stop laughing when I call them a cund. Love you girls. I reckon.

Yeah. Thank you for taking our culture overseas. That's so beautiful. And I think that show could be a big hit. The Prune Packers. So is that all nonsense? That sounded really sexy. Look, I was heating up over here under the colour.

I'm not even wearing a colour. Colour of pants. Is the Prune Packers real? Yeah, I'm looking at my pants. up their official hashtag is go pack. Okay. Go pack your bags. I don't know his name or their name, but the mascot seems to be a guy with a big mustache.

I was trying to work out if that's prune or something. Oh, that's great. That's a great mo. The prune packers. Go pack. Come from mustache ride with the prune packers. Is there anything official about cougars in the town? I've only looked at prune packers, cougar.

I'm not talking about the animal. Cougars. while you're looking that up. Nothing coming up, I'm afraid. Nothing official anyway. Interesting. On the down low. Next one comes from Kate Elliott,

aka missing mole person junior detective chief inspector, HMA, Squirrel, Squadron 10, 5th Battalion. Whoa. There's a lot going on there. There is a lot going on there. Oh, my God. We're getting a rare joke. Oh, don't mind a joke.

Fact, quite a question, brag, suggestion. You can do anything including joke. Or fan fiction. Milt fan fiction. All right, Dave, Jess, you ready? Ready. To laugh? Yes.

I said, are you ready to laugh? Yes. Two snowmen are standing in a field. One snowman says the other, do you smell carrots? Ha ha ha ha. Their noses are carrots. That's like me saying to Dave, do you smell nose? That's good stuff.

That is good stuff. That's great. This is Kate's introduction to the fact. quote of questions section and Kate what a debut. You have nailed that. Big fan of that. Kate says, I love this joke and when my work does get to know you activities,

I rip this one out and sit back and wait for the eye rolls. No one likes icebreakers. Ban them. Yeah. Save the ice. They suck. Dave makes us do ice breakers every week.

Yeah. And we're like, mate, the ice is broken. We are friends. Turn to the person next to you and say one fact about yourself. Yeah, two truths that a lie. I hate icebreakers. That's what we, Jess and I say it every time. Every time.

And he never gets it. That's so funny. I love those kids. She's like, I tell this joke to make people. As a protest. Then they'll be like, all right, we're never doing this again. Yeah, correct. Next one comes from Gaddy J from Ryuki.

In a perfect Brahmi accent. Oh, I didn't read that bit in time, unfortunately. So I did not. What's I'm able to do it? Gaddy J writes, stand in lighting lamp. That's his title. brackets when Saraj is at the bar. Stand in lighting lamp when Saraj is at the bar.

Does that make any sense? Maybe. Is it at our live shows? At our live shows, Starrange. No, Sarage was holding a light while people were taking photos. Oh, yes, that's right. We had a very dark spot, especially in Birmingham,

where we were getting the photos taken with some people after the show. And we needed some extra lighting. Yeah, Saraj was holding his torch as with Sophie. But if Saraj was at the bar, Gary Jay's in there. Yeah, got any good remembering. You too? Thanks. Gary Day writes, a question.

Just checking to see if Matt has done that favour I asked for and paid for. Oh my God, I have not. No. Good reminder. Plus, great tour. Thanks for the upgrade in London. I'm also sorry to bother you for a picture at every show. I try to wait till the end not to hold up the others who hadn't had pictures.

Gary. Gary. You don't owe us any apologies ever, Gary. You don't ever owe us an apology show. You shut your freaking. Shut your mouth, Gary, shut your beautiful brummy mouth. Shut your beautiful brum-hole.

You know what you need to apologise for? Apologising. Yeah, or nothing. So politely saying, do you mind if I go to photo guys? Like, shut up. Of course you delight. No problem at all.

Anything for you, Gary. And I'll get on to that favour. I'm winking at you, Gary. Is he, are you giving him an organ or something? No, I'm going to smuggle him into the country. Oh, good. Which I don't even think you need.

to do like. Yeah, I think you can just come over. Yeah, but. It's probably a visa or something. I'm not actually even really sure. Because when I enter Australia, I'm a citizen. So I don't have a visa or anything. I'm from here.

I think the British passport will get you into the country for a bit. Definitely, definitely, definitely. But don't tell him that because he's paid me. Oh, yeah, we'll hook you up. Quite a sum of money. In pound? In pounds. Fuck yes.

Yeah. He took me to pound down and loaded me up, so to speak. Thank you so much, Gady J. Finally, we got one from Jeremy Gleason, aka the drover of the podcast. Jeremy Gleason is trouble. Dave, look out for him in Adelaide if he comes to your show. Uh-oh, what's going to happen? I tell you about a guy at Adelaide Fringe last year who didn't let, I mean, you're much stronger than me.

But he would, like, you were just about to finish your beer, he's putting another one in your hand. Dangerous. Oh, wow, taking out the empty and being like to have that. Yeah. Jeremy Gleason. laugh. Serene, I was there with Serene and Serene really mastered his laugh. I'll try and do it. He, he, he! Oh, that's a good laugh. Yeah. Well, that wasn't right, but it, yeah. If I hear that on my show, I'll just go, Jeremy? That kind of exuberance.

So you love that. It's a great laugh. Anyway. Michael Jackson laugh. Oh, sorry, I was, yes, I was confusing the two. Michael Jackson's the one who would keep loading me up with cans. Oh, that's not good. That isn't good. Geez, I didn't even think of the implications of that. Anyway, Jeremy has an invitation writing. Yeah, I finally upgraded my membership. I hope this reaches you in time. Here's an invite to a patron catch-up in Adelaide

while Dave and Matt are in town for the fringe. True to my usual style, I'll send out the invite and leave the hard organizing to someone else. Can't wait to see everyone. Oh, and Jess, yes, you're welcome to join if you like. Love you guys. Wait to party. If you want.

Oh, Jess, you can come if you want. You don't invite it, but you can come if you want. You got to come and fly. I've happened to be talking

about this in front of you. You can come if you want, Jess. Oh, yeah. If you want to fly over. Yeah, if you want to go to all that hassle.

Well, Dave, as we're speaking right now, you're there. I'm probably at the after party right now. So, yeah, if you are in Adelaide and you're keen to catch up,

send Jeremy Gleasen a message. I'm going to go to the O'Connell Bakery. Oh yeah, 24 hours a day. Oh my gosh. What a thrill to have a bakery open 24 hours a day. Yeah, I don't understand why we can't have that here. What did we do wrong? Why not?

What did we do? Is it a law that it's not allowed? Because otherwise I don't understand why a business wouldn't make that great decision. Why weren't we? Why not? What's going on? Anyway, thank you so much to Jeremy, Gary, Kate and Kevin. And that brings us to the next part of the...

if everyone's over the section of the show, where we thank a few of our other great supporters. Jess, you normally have a bit of a game based on the topic? Given them there two jobs. Oh, yeah. Instead of opera singer and fancer, two jobs. Love it. All right.

Last week, I think we put all the work on you. You want to do the names, and Dave and I'll say a job each. One job each. Fantastic. I can do that. First up, I would like to thank from Montreal. in Canada, Mark Schmidt. Dog trainer

slash video shop owner. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you could do both of those. Yeah, one is booming more than others these days. Yeah, but then I don't tell you which. I mean, vinals are very back, aren't they? Yeah, they're very back. They're very back.

Oh my God, that is very bad. That's so back right now. You guys gave me a collection of vitals for my 30th birthday. Yeah. You know, VHS is around the corner. Yes. Because you're 30-fifty, you're getting involved. You getting VHS's.

Yes. I want Furn Gully, please. VH. Jessers. That's a VH yes from me. That's really cute. I like that a lot. I like any time my name goes in something.

Or Australia's mentioned, because you live there. Next up, I would like to thank from County Carvin in Ireland, Stephen McLaughlin. Oh, Steve McLaughlin, Dave. What does he do? Makes hats. And eats hats. Well, really. So no matter what I said, was it going to be eats hats or?

Well, I was going to say it's fish. I'm like, that's not a job. But eating a hat is, and that's okay. Luckily, my mind looked after me there. Thank you, Brain, for coming through again. It's amazing to see you at work. He makes hats and eats them. He makes hats and then eats them.

Who are you going to pay to see a guy eating fish or man eating Yeah. I'd love to see him in his own hat. That's impressive. That was an old time he's saying. I'll eat my hat. Yeah, if you do that, I'll eat my hat. Yeah, oh, if that's okay, I'll eat my hat. Well, first of all, I make my hat and then I'll eat it.

His hat is made of nachos. Oh, that's all delicious. Next up. I got instantly hungry for nachos. Oh, God, love that. Please, Ken, we thank. I'd love to shout out from Beach Haven in Auckland, New Zealand, Steve Van. B-Kheisen

Crocodile Rangler slash caravan repairman Oh yeah Again Again could do both Could do both Yeah absolutely I feel like

I know these aren't technically his jobs But I feel like your brother could be living that life Yeah He could repair a caravan Yeah He could catch a crumb

Wrangler crook I wouldn't be surprised He has that vibe about him He'd probably give it a go But you also You wouldn't hear about it Yeah Yeah

It'd be like somebody else Would mention it 10 years later And you go What the fuck? He goes, It'd be that. Whereas I'd take a shit and I'm like, hey everybody, you know, that's how we differ, my brother and I.

Yeah, have been mean to bring that up. What? It's getting a bit out of hand or this shit talking. Do you reckon you could maybe pull it back a little? Just the pictures then. Picture tells a thousand words. We don't need the description as well. Yeah, one or the other.

Okay, that's fair. I have nothing if not fair. Next up, I'd like to shout out from Charlotte in NC, North Carolina, correct? Oh my God, that's where, yeah, where some of the fire trucks are blue. And that's where Sarah Walker is from. And Sarah Walker is a psychologist slash. Oh, wow.

Dye maker. Dye maker. Makes dyes. That's nice. Colors, you know, color dies. Oh, I understand what dyes are, yeah. Yeah. It's great.

I'm not a weird way of phrasing kills people. Makes dies. Although that would be good for a psychological. as well, actually. Yes. Everyone needs to have a side hustle. And Sarah Walker is psychology. And that's right.

Next up from Melbourne in Victoria, I think Australia. Oh my goodness. Wow. I would like to shout out to Ben. A fixer. A fixer. A fixer. He's a fixer.

Okay, he's also a professional gambler. Oh my gosh. Loves are blackjack. I think, yeah, those two things go hand in hand. He's fixing problems for unsayers. Savory tops because he owes them a lot of money. That's right. Hey, I can do your favour.

How about I do that instead of pay you back? Yeah, yeah. From Canuck in Great Britain, it's Fee White. Fee White, who is a hypnotherapist. Oh, good one. And a wedding crasher. Professional. Like for hire.

Yeah, yeah. People say, I need this wedding go badly. Can you crash my cousin's wedding? I don't think that they should be together. Yeah. Just crash it. I need you to object. Yeah.

Yeah. With your car. Crash with your car. I need you to object with your car. Oh, con, eh, eh,

like, don't kill anyone, but if you like take out the marquee, we'll have to run away before the vows are done. It'll be a bit more time to break them up. Yeah, yeah,

thank you, fee. Thank you so much, Fee. But if you are, if one of them is going to die, make it, not my cousin.

Yeah. Make it the groan. I won't tell you which is witch. Yeah, you figure it out. Next up from address unknown, so we can only assume deep within the fortress of the Moles. Bailey Swainson

A jelly Wobbler A jelly wobblah A jelly wobblah And I was going to say Professional BMX rider Okay Well and you've got to have down time

That's a very BMX writing is a very physically demanding job You need something to just like Wobble Switch on We all have something to wobble Okay

Next up from New Hope, Pennsylvania, it's Jack Z. Jack Z. Jack Z. Oh, we'd say Jack Z. Jack Zed. A semiliar. Oh, Smelier slash fish and chip shop owner. I just want to shout out that Matt did finally say an actual job.

So that's pretty impressive. Yeah, that was good, yeah. Did I say it right? Close-ish. I have no idea how to say that word. But if you'd like your fried flag paired with a wine, you've got to go to this fishing Oh yeah. It's like a fancy, it's an upscale fishing ship. Yeah, really nice stuff. Gorgeous.

You get a bit of barramundi. You can't go back honestly. To your local. Yeah. Really. Gorgeous. Is that what you would do? That's what I would do, but I'm not a smellier.

Yeah. Like Jack Z. Yes, yes, yes. And finally, from Pocono in New Zealand or Pekino, it's Matthew Husband. Matthew Husband is a pasta master chef. Pastor Master chef. So, like, makes everything from scratch, but has three. and stars for it.

Whoa! And an animal juggler. Wow. What kind of animals does Matthew juggle? Well, normally starts off with ferrets, little sort of... Small things, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Mammasettes. Yep. And he'll build up to, you know, quite hefty beasts of bird and even, like, you know, like donkeys. Wow. North American bison. I'd pay to see these. It's moose.

Wow. And you go, hey, ho! H. Grizzly did that one time. It didn't too well, to be honest. So, yeah, I don't think of a bit on that again. For the grizzly? Yes, and they're expensive.

They are. Thank you once again to Matthew, Jacks, Bailey, Fee, Ben, Sarah, Steve, Stephen and Mark. Thank you so much. And the last thing we need to do is shout out and actually welcome a few new inductees into the Triptitch Club, which Jess is really good at explaining. Thank you so much. I am. Um, this is an exclusive, all-inclusive, fancy cool club for people who have supported us for three consecutive years on the shoutout level or above.

Correct? Yeah. Um, it's, it's once you're in, you can't leave, but why would you ever want to? We have everything you could possibly need. We've got multiple air hockey tables and one ice hockey table, which I don't want to talk about. I'm so sorry that they're all ice hockey tables. No, Matt. Yeah, we've got 17 ice hockey tables. I keep forgetting.

Every time a new one comes in, I go, I want to make sure Jess is happy. I better get it iced up before she comes in. Well, let's say, like, even if half were iced and half weren't, then I'm definitely happy either way, right? Well, that's what I'm remembering now. But I'm like, I was so sure that you love ice hockey tables and hate air hockey tables. No. It's the opposite of that. I've got to write this on my hand or something.

Please. That could be your dougar. on tattoo. Air hockey and then ice hockey's underneath crossed out. So how it works is Matt's behind the velvet rope. He's ticking your name off a checklist. We welcome you in. I'm behind the bar.

I've got everything you could possibly need. It's all French fare this week in honour of the theme. Oh, lovely. Snails. Delicious. Champagne. Escago. Yeah, that's the same thing.

Which one is champagne? French fries. Oh, yeah. You know, we've got everything. I think they call them freedom fries over there. Is that right? That feels right. And Dave, you book a band as well.

Yes, you're never going to believe it. What? I couldn't I believe when you brought up her at the star of the show. How are you booked? You were saying her nickname. I've actually booked the 1960s American band The Rascals. Oh. Oh.

Originally known as the young rascals. That's fair. It's like little bow wow. I had to at some point go, it's just bow wow. I'm just bare well now. But they're going to be performing such hits as a beautiful morning. People got to be free and I've been lonely too long. Oh, preach.

Yeah. And one of their other hits, baby, let's wait. Oh, that's nice. I just want to say we have French martinis at the bar as well. Oh, French martini. What does that mean? Is it a martini and more French? Yeah.

It gives you a bit of attitude. Oh, we? Um, so... Shout out to our French listeners, of course. Yeah, we love you. So Matt's going to read out the names. Dave, you're going to hype them up. I hype you up.

Thank you. And we welcome people in and we celebrate them. We give them a moment in the spotlight. Yes, Dave does that with a little weak word play. That's why Jess has to hype Dave up. No, no, no, no. And then hang around for the after party and a French martini. I can't wait.

And the young rascals. And the old rascals. Oh, yeah. Well, the rascals. The old rascals. They're quite old. Oh. First up, I'd love to welcome into the club from our

Gambia, oh my God, home of Dave Graney. In South Australia, it's Catherine Jane. Insane in the Cath Jane. Oh, that's good stuff. Welcome in from Bly Park. New South Wales also here in Australia. It's Rachel R. Rachel Arfor, really amazing. Yes.

From Glasgow in Scotland. Welcome, Alan Kerr. Some people concur, but I Alan Kerr, when I agree. From Sacramento in California, yay. It's Kirsten Kerr. I love you so much. Kirsten, Kirsten Hertz. And finally, from Etchuka, here in Victoria, Australia.

Welcome, John Ebert. I'm going to give you four stars of the Siskel and Ebert scale, John Obert. That's very good. How do you call that weak wordplay? Well, I used to. Not anymore. Welcome in. That honestly was some of your best work.

Welcome in John, Kirsten, Alan, Rachel and Catherine. Yeah, you're welcome in. You may never leave, but why would you want to? We've got everything you need. You can work from home from here. Yeah. We've got really good internet. I think canonically, maybe we established recently that it means you're dead.

I can't remember. Yeah, we did say that you're, this is the afterlife. Yeah. And again, fantastic. Pretty freaking good. Yeah, come on, this is worth dying. Four. And either way, Jess.

Yeah. What do we need to tell people before we go? That we love them. If they want to suggest a topic, they can do so at do go on pod.com, or there's a link in our show notes. And you can check out all our other podcasts as well. They're on our website or also in the show notes. And we've got like a, we made a quiz show. Yeah.

Full production, TV production at Stubbard's years. That's right. That's available to watch online. Yeah. It was so much fun to make. It's very good. Like it. And you can find us on social media.

Do go on podcast on TikTok. We'd love you to engage. And should we mention the live shows one more time. Matt and I in Adelaide, me this week. Matt next week and then I'm bringing my show to Sydney for one afternoon only and then the first two weeks of the Melbourne International Comedy Festival the 27th of March to Sunday the April, April the 6th. And we're yeah, we're doing a festival club do go on show. Oh, that's right. We're doing do go on the quiz show. Late night, one night only, 11 p.m. It's a Wednesday night.

And I'm just going to look at my calendar to make sure I'm saying the right one. Wednesday, April the 2nd, 11 p.m. Tickets are just 20 bucks, and we're going to have some hot guests from across the festival. Yeah, physically attractive. Physically attractive. They'll be not very funny, but they'll be very hot. Yes. We've done the quiz show live a few times, and it works really well. It's a really fun format.

So if you haven't seen it live, definitely come check it out. And also, the festival club, those late night shows have a really fun chaotic energy. They're definitely worth experiencing. And it's like an awesome venue. Yeah, it's... I saw Cohed and Cambria there. Maybe you were there too. I was there too back in 2005.

Yeah. Wow. What was it called before it was Max Watts? High-Fi. High-Fi bar. I still call it the hi-fi sometimes. Yeah, I do too. Except right now when I forgot.

And people always look and be like, old man, what? And yet, my show, our bad boy is going to also be in Melbourne at Spleen. But yeah, you can find out details for all that stuff on dogoonpod.com, I'd say. That's right. Because even if you're in the future, you're like, I don't care about that anymore. We'll be doing new stuff. We're always doing new stuff. We can't be stopped.

We won't be stopped. Dave and my, we would have. our stand-up specials online as well by now maybe well we probably not but if you're listening in the future in the future yeah check your websites check your local websites check your local website for details all right until next time i'll say thank you so much listening and goodbye later don't forget to sign up to our tour mailing list so we know where in the world you are and we can come and tell you when we're coming there wherever we go we always hear six months later

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