Do Go On - 497 - The Clinton - Lewinsky Scandal

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

It's a scandal you have definitely heard of, but do you know exactly what happened in the Clinton - Lewinsky scandal? This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 07.37 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).For all our important links: https://linktr.ee/dogoonpod Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://time.com/5120561/bill-clinton-monica-lewinsky-timeline/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clintonhttps://web.archive.org/web/20191207172320/https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/clinton012198.htmhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/tripp091298.htmhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/president-girlfriend-linda-tripps-betrayal-monica-lewinsky-taped/story?id=59865969https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinskyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton%E2%80%93Lewinsky_scandal Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we've got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnocky and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hello. Hey, how's it going?

So good to be here and quick question for you too. How good is it to be alive? Well. All right. I'll feel this one. Real good. So good. This is the first episode where it's just been the three of us for like a month, I think.

Is that right? In the room together. Yes. Just the three of us in the room together. Wearing these outfits. wearing these outfits on this day. Yeah, no, he's right. First time in a month.

I've just checked the calendar. He is correct about that, yeah. So I forgot that last week we, it was just the three of us. It was, but I was interstate. I was via satellite. Yes, that's right. And it was so, it was so good to see you there, up on the big screen. Oh, yeah, I was up on the big screen.

You guys were on my small laptop, but I was still good to see you. Was it good to see us on the little screen? Yeah, yeah. Do we look better on a little screen? Definitely. Yeah, more compact. You get all the goodness. but really squeezed into a small thing.

Yeah. It's like, you know, sipping on concentrated cordial. Yep. No watering down. So good. Is that what do you mean? Yeah, no watering down necessary. Jess.

Yep. How good does it be alive? It's fine. Yeah, great. And Dave, how does this show work? What we do here is we take it in terms to report on a topic often suggested to us by one of the listeners. We go away. We research that topic, bathe in the knowledge and bring it back in the form of a report to the others who have

no idea what the topic's going to be. Matt and I are completely in the dark year. Jess has picked a topic, done the research, and we always start with a question to get us on the topic. JP, what's your question? My question is, who did not have sexual relations with that woman? Bill Clinton.

Jim Carrey. What the heck? You don't want a Bill Clinton episode? Yes, in a way. Is this the history of the saxophone? It's the history of the saxophone. I was going to say, hang on. Oh, yeah, we did that.

Well, I mean, it is about Bill Clinton, but specifically, I mean, what was that question in relation to? Oh, it was in the Monoculowinski affair. Yeah, this is the Clinton Lewinsky scandal. Oh, my gosh. The second most scandalous thing that man's ever done after, of course, Hairgate. Oh, yes. I told you, he kind of got that. Might have got a haircut on the runway and close down a runway.

And it turned out that wasn't true. Honestly, I mean, like all presidents or politicians, of note. There's a lot of scandals around this guy. This is one of them. Really? It's really interesting that Dave puts this in the top two with the hair gate thing because Dave believes in the QAnon stuff.

So, like, if that doesn't even make the top two for him then. Yeah, well, there's a three, four and five, but number one, hair gate. Paying $200 to that guy, come out, give him a haircut. And then what, it turned out to be not true? It just wasn't true. Okay. But I think he did get the haircut. One thing, you can tell you a lot about Bill, but he has.

had fantastic hair. Great hair. At all times. Yeah. And May you rest in peace. You're talking about his hair like it's dead. He's still got good hair. Yeah, hair's still good.

At the time of recording. We're doing back-to-back POTUS episodes. Yeah, you're right. Wow. This is one of those things that I'm, I'm, just spelling that out in your mind. I couldn't remember last week. I was like, really? No, I wasn't spelling out POTUS.

I was like, what the fuck do we do? Abraham Lincoln. I'm with it. One of these things I'm very aware of the, maybe with the two or three sentence summary of this scandal. But I really don't know a lot. Exactly. But it's also so funny to think of it as a scandal. Imagining it happening now, it'd be like, what?

Exactly. That's page 15 for one day. Yeah. And then it's quickly forgotten because something way crazier, way more scandals is happening. Exactly. So it's kind of crazy. But yeah, I wanted to do this topic because you're right, that I know the one or two sentence summary of it.

He didn't have sexual relations with that woman. Okay, spoilers. Oh, no. I've managed to pad this out for 4,000 words, okay? Well done. I think I might be mixing the Julia Gillard speech with the Bill Clinton speech. I will not be lectured on sexual relations by that man. Which actually could have, that would have been relevant too, because.

Yeah, I don't want Tony Abbott teaching sex ed, you know? A wink in and eating an onion. He was very similar to my sex ed teacher, Mr. Sharpton. His catchphrase was, of course. If you're up, you're in. And also, there are any holes and there are outy holes. Yeah. We love you, Mr. Sharpton.

But yeah, so I think having grown up in the 90s, we're aware of, you know, the story. But I didn't really know all that much about it. So I've gone into it in a little bit more detail. That's great, thank you. Has been suggested by a few people. It's been suggested by Sandy Thai from Ballarat, Ariane from Ireland, and David Molofsky from London. Ah, a place to wear his cape.

Or hang your cape. Oh, I was thinking a place that where your cape is around your neck. But, you know. He's got a website. You were just... You were just explaining a place you could wear a cape. Yes, in case he was wondering. It wasn't relevant, Dave.

No. Matt was just telling you a place you could wear a website. A cape. Yeah. And I've... Ranned your neck. That's one of the places. It ran your waist.

If you want. If you want it. It'll drag on the ground. Probably. Let me get a pen. Jesus. You've gone too fast. You've got a computer in front of me.

You're like, I need a pen and paper immediately. All right. Just quickly, just to give everyone an update, I'm within a hundred of 10,000 on Instagram followers. So make sure you go unfollow. No, no, no, no, no, no. Follow Dave Warnocky. No.

Yeah. No, the good people haven't been listening to you. you, they've been listening to me. What a bunch of cowards. And dare I say, misogynists. What, you won't listen to a woman? Well, no, they're following a feminist. And if they follow me, I'll take them to equality.

Mm-hmm. By posting shirtless picks of yourself having a tea in the sun. Yeah, a lot of skin. You do follow me. A lot of skin on your page. A lot of skin. What, no one? There's not like...

A lot of skin. Okay. What do you see? I'm seeing bits of coles. of collarbone that I'm like, is this only fans or Instagram? Oh my gosh. Should I be charging for this content? Yes.

Most recent photo? You doing a marathon? Wow. What a guy. Legs out. Legs out. Foof. The thing I found out, people want to see photos from the past more than photos from

today. Oh. It's a real sad indictment on my life. Yeah. Any new stuff they're like, yeah. Well, most of the new stuff admittedly is me going, please come to my show. So I give them, I give them something. Something for the algorithm.

I throw some stuff back. That's nice. Facebook memories has really been helping out my content creation. And that's what I think of myself as a content creator. Yeah. I think so. Once you hit that 10K. Yeah.

Yeah, you better believe on my passport or whatever, it's going to say content creator. Yeah, influencer. Is there a spot on there for that? On your passport? Yeah. Yeah. He's right in and pen. So this is not valid.

You've written content creator over your name? Well, that's one of your name. Call me con. Okay, so a little bit of background firstly. Like I said, there's obviously so much in a political career, in a presidential career. I mean, you just like look at the Wikipedia page and there's like four million subheadings of different things. There's a lot to cover in a presidency. But don't worry, I've already covered the hair.

Yeah, that's most important. And the saxophone. So I've lost 2,000 or the 4,000 words. So we're good. You forgot. The rest is on the stain, right? It's all on the stain And the cigar

Yeah I actually did not include the cigar Because I read it and went But the stain is in there I think I'm unaware of the cigar You're going to have to put it in now Okay Well that's what he did

Well yeah We'll tell you later when it's relevant Oh my god Or now is also an option Yeah so that's why I left it out But there's more But anyway A little background on Clinton

Dave is Is this true Shaking up Yeah he's pretty gross To be honest But don't worry Don't worry Dave He's a middle age white man

So he's suffered no consequences. Yeah, also he's the most powerful man of the world. Yeah, so don't worry about it. He's fine. So William Jefferson Blythe III. Oh my God. Sorry, what? A man of the people.

You can tell already. William Jefferson Blythe III. I didn't hear a single Clinton in that now. Correct. He was born August 19, 1946 in Hope, Arkansas. His very early life sounds rather tragic. His father was William Jefferson Blyth, Jr., a traveling salesman who died in an automobile accident three months before his birth.

Oh my God. His mother, Virginia Del Cassidy, was William Sr.'s fifth wife, although it turned out he hadn't actually divorced wife number four. I mean, there'd be so much paperwork in that guy's life. Yeah, five divorces. But... Possible, he really had no idea. He's like, I didn't.

I've signed so many of those divorce papers. Yeah, but you think he'd get good at it because you know what you're doing. He'd probably just have a stamp. It'd be really quick and easy now. Just calls the same lawyer and says, I'm going to need another one. So he... Don't worry, got it already.

He would also be like, that's same time. As soon as you're married, I'm filing up. I'm drafting your divorce papers. TV news stations always have the death packages ready to go. He's got the... He's like, can you sign here for the marriage? And just pre-sign here for the divorce. And I'll just fill in my initials that I need to.

Yeah, I'll file that when it's relevant. You just give me a call. So his mother, Virginia, she traveled to New Orleans to study nursing soon after Bill was born, leaving him in Hope with her parents, Eldridge and Edith Cassidy, who owned and ran a small grocery store. She returned four years later in 1950 and married Roger Clinton Sr., who co-owned an automobile dealership in Hot Springs, Arkansas. Man, Hope and Hot Springs.

Arkansas is two-for-two for names. They're two city names I've heard of, but they're both bangers. That's good. So Virginia and Baby Bill, or Toddler Bill by this time, they moved to Hot Springs. while at school in hot springs Clinton was an active student leader, avid reader and musician He was in the chorus and played the tennis saxophone

Winning first chair in the state band's saxophone section Wow, he's actually very good then Yeah, he briefly considered dedicating his life to music But as he noted in his autobiography, My Life Sometime in my 16th year, it's such a boring title Sometime in my 16th year, I decided I wanted to be in public life As an elected official. I loved music and third.

thought I could be very good, but I knew I'd never be John Coltrane or Stan Gets. I was interested in medicine and thought I could be a fine doctor, but I knew I would never be Michael DeBakey, but I knew I could be great in public service. So he's sort of like, I can be really good at those things, but I won't be the best. But it's so funny, he's like, but I could be, you know, Abraham Lincoln or George Washington one of those, easy, easy. Yeah. Because they've all got, like, you could say any field and go, I'm not going to be a legend of the past.

Yeah. But he did, in politics, he's like, but yeah. No legends in this field. But also like, you go, okay, well, I could be a really good doctor, but there's a better doctor. Okay, we still need more doctors. Do you know what I mean? Like that one doctor. How busy is that one doctor?

He can't do it all. It would probably be helpful if you also became a pretty good doctor. Yes. Yeah, it's weird. He's like, I mean, maybe that's why it's best he didn't go into it. It sounds like ego is a big part of it for you. Which I don't know if that's common in politicians. No, I think that's unique.

Hmm That's really interesting actually But we've like so early We've really like Gotten down to the core of it with him And only him That's how well yeah Maybe that's just how you make it to the top

Maybe VPs Little ego And the thing to get you all the way up To the top P P's they don't have their eye On the top prize They don't care about that No

They're there for the people Yes Well I couldn't Yeah Biden He was happy to stay at VP Yeah that's right He loved being VP

George H. W. Washington, if that's right. George H. W. Washington, yes. Lyndon B. Johnson. Yeah, yeah. Yep. He could be your president. Yeah. He was.

But he didn't want it. His ego wasn't like that. No, that's right. He's like, VP for me. Lyndon B. Linden B. Leave me B at VP. Lyndon B.

That's it. To the music of let it be. And that sounded like. Like, if I could remember any of the words, I just say, Lynn, leave me be at VP, Lyndon B, Johnston. Well, that's beautiful background vocals there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do both, foreground and background.

I got the ego. I do foreground and background. Yeah, I do some foreground vocals. I do foreground vocals. Oh, maybe I'll have a little break. You got to run my own beds. So after grader jotting from high school, he attended George, University in Washington, D.C., receiving a Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service in 1968.

Don't ask me what foreign services, I don't know. But he could be the best ever foreign service I've ever heard of. Easily. No, but he'd be happy with that. Doug Johnson, unfortunately. Oh, yeah. He's like, I'm like, I'm ever going to do what Doug did. I mean, I might sound like the doctor renamed before I'd never heard of.

I'm just a love the idea that he's just naming his GP. I'll never be as good as Michael. Michael is such a good doctor. Dr. Michael, he's always, if he's late, it's only by five minutes. And that's very impressive in a GP. Upon graduating from Georgetown in 68, he won a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford, where he studied philosophy, politics and economics. He was offered a place to study at Yale Law School, so he left early to return to the United States and did not receive a degree from Oxford. Rod Scholar, more in common with Tony Abbott.

That's right. Wow. He earned his law degree from Yale in 1973, and Yale was also where he met a young woman named Hillary Rodham. Oh, my gosh. Who meant not? Rodom by name. I'm just imagining how the first date ended. Rodham.

I wasn't ever heard of pronounced rodents. Is it Rodham or is it Rodden? I think Rodham is so good. Rodham my name. I did mean to look that up because I think I've heard it both. Okay, maybe I'm in. No. Hey, Jess, if I could jump in here, I haven't heard it either.

I don't think I knew her. Because she's, she goes by both, I think. Oh, right. She goes, still goes by Hillary Rodham. No, she hyphenates sometimes. She's a Rodham Clinton, yeah. I like it. How do I find this to know?

When she's ordering a pizza, Dave. What is she, what name she put down when she's ordering a pizza? Hang on. An extra special with the lot and she's winking. What did she say then? Have you seen when goxy... Hang on. Radim.

Rardom. Radham. Radim. Radim. How did I say it? Rodham. I like Rodham better. Me too.

Oh, you know what? Rodham. That's like more British, I think. Rodham. Rodham. Rodham. Rodham. Radham.

Radham. Radham. We have to commit. Radham. Radham. So they met in 71. They were soon inseparable. Sorry, I did interrupt to think about goxie there.

If you want to go on that journey. When he orders a pizza at Domino's, he asks people, what should I put the name under? And people say stuff like, fard. It says like it's on a digital screen, like a fart is in the oven or whatever. If you don't follow Goxie. You got it. On Facebook especially, I think that's where it's most active. He's apart from the greatest corner of the internet,

the nice corner of the internet, the Patreon group that we have, the only other shining line on Facebook is Goxie's page. Yes. I'm a big fan. All right. Hillary, Radham. Radham. And if you thought that was ridiculous earlier,

that's just my accent and fuck you. No one thought that. They did. They were writing a tweet. They were writing a tweet. If anyone... Backspace, back space, backspace, backspace. They get...

If anyone's getting upset about mispronouncing Hillary Clinton's birth name, then I think they're on track in life and they're nailing it. Yeah. And I think they should make no adjustments whatsoever. Correct. They were married in 1975 and they had their only child Chelsea in 1980. Now, like all presidents, there's extensive info about every large and small thing that happened across his career, but I'm trying to do a light background here.

This is not a report on Bill Clinton, but I'm just, I'm skipping over some stuff. So he was in Arkansas, like, right up until Washington? Basically, yeah, I'm skipping over a lot, but I'm giving you an idea of how he ended up in the White House. So after graduating from Yale Law School, he returned to Arkansas and became a law professor at the University of Arkansas, and in 74, he ran for the House of Representatives from Wikipedia, which is like a Bill Clinton website. You did say there's lots of articles

Well, what's Bill Schott for? Wiki. Yeah. Yeah. Wikim. Wickium. Wicium. Beautiful.

You don't hear enough Wikiums now. No. Running in the Conservative 3rd District against incumbent Republican John Paul Hammersmith, Clinton's campaign was bolstered by the anti-Republican and anti-incumbent mood resulting from the Watergate scandal. Hammers Schmidt, who had received 77% of the vote in 1972, defeated Clinton by only a 52% to 48%.

margin. So he's like, you know. Rilling, I'm in. He did a good, yeah. I'm voting Hammershmidt. I don't know any, I don't know his policies. Yeah. But what a name. Hamishmitt. Hammer Schmidt. That's good stuff. Hammers Schmidt. And is Bill only like 28 years old? Am I doing the math? Is there right? Yeah, probably, yep. It's pretty young, isn't he? Yeah. So you're getting house of reps. Yeah, they're weird. I think, I think at, at least, like, the big mainstream

parties, young people getting involved with them for some reason. And it shouldn't I think it's great people get involved in politics, but I think the people who are young who get involved in the big parties are often a bit weak. Yeah. And this was 74. Yeah, yeah. So in 76, he ran for Arkansas Attorney General,

defeating the Secretary of State and the Deputy Attorney General in the Democratic Party. Clinton was elected with no opposition in the general election as no Republican had run for office. So he won by default, I guess. He is Attorney General. Two years later, he was elected governor of Arkansas. He was only 32 years old when he took office,

the youngest governor in the country at the time, and the second youngest governor in the history of Arkansas. 32. That's crazy. Winning by default is great. I love that, yeah. That's my favorite way to win. To put it in a golfing terms for Dave,

they don't draw pictures on school cards. I said that to you once, you loved it. That's like a... I don't get it. Like, you do... If you hit it like a shit shot, like it, but it runs on the ground and you have luck and you end up getting an okay skit. Hey, that's like an old time guy on the golf goes.

Hey, I don't draw pictures on school cards, mate. Because if they did, it'd be really fucking terrible. It'd be like, it'd be embarrassed. It'd be, yeah, it would be a pretty hard way to put a score down as well. Yeah. You know, all of a sudden you need to be an artist as well. I'm not good at golf, let alone scoring. I hate this game.

It's funny. You're talking about politics. because I, on the way to get coffees before you arrived, I got flied and I realized that the early polling's open for the federal election here. And all of a sudden, on the way to the coffee shop, I voted. I'm like, wait, when is the election? But it's not for a, at the time, recording. It's like a week and a halfway. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I got it done. Well done. I'm bad, yeah. And did you vote for Hammers Schmidt? I, yeah, I just wrote yes, yes, a thousand times yes, next to Hammershmit.

That's nice. That's nice. I think that counts for three. No, I had some great chats with some of the volunteers there. And, yeah, not any of the young people for the two major parties. I spoke to the young people who were talking about some of the minor parties. Oh, so they're not weird. Yeah, no, they're not weird.

They're not weird. I don't think they're weird, Dave. I'm sorry. I just said they're not weird. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, did I not say the right thing when I said they're not big? Sorry, just for the listeners, Dave is VP for a young liberal party. VP, geez.

That's because he has a small ego. In this fantasy, I can't even be the pee. He loves to be the pee. So Clinton's only 32. Due to his youthful appearance and literal youth, I guess, he was often called the boy governor, which I like a lot. That feels like something we'd call you. The boy governor.

Did he like that, though? Who knows? I can't picture him without the silver hair either. Was he silver at this stage? I feel like he was a bit of a Steve Martin and that he was silver early. He did it early and just... The best of us are? It's the best way to go because you just maintain this sort of silver foxy nature for your whole life.

Young Bill Clinton, I've googled. Yeah, it's sort of like brown hair. A bit of salt and pepper. Salt and pepper. Salt and pepper. He held the position for two years before losing an election, but then was elected again the following year, this time holding the position for 10 years.

Oh, wow. There were many controversies during this time as governor. He's a couple. CIA agent Barry Seal allegedly imported $3 to $5 billion worth of cocaine through the airport. Billion. And the operation was linked to the Iran-Contra affair. Clinton was accused of knowing about this operation,

although nothing could be proven against him. His half-brother Roger also was a bit of a problem. child all through Clinton's political career. His name should have been Roger, really. That would have been nominative determinants, nother. Roger was sentenced to prison in 1985 for possessing and smuggling of cocaine, but was later pardoned by his brother after serving his sentence.

That's, yeah. But after serving the sentence, though. Oh, yeah, yeah. Maybe he served a bit. I don't know. I mean, if you'd be like, yeah, thanks a lot, brother. I needed you about five or six years ago. But I mean, it's still, what a system.

where someone can just, yeah, I don't know. No, he's all right. Yeah. He's all right. Whoa. There were also other scandals such as the Whitewater controversy involving the Clinton's real estate dealings and Bill Clinton was accused of serious sexual misconduct in Arkansas, including allegations of using the Arkansas state police to gain access to women.

Oh, my God. It was called the Trooper Gate affair. Okay. It's funny. Like before I was like, uh, this stuff wouldn't even be a big deal then. But I mean, he got, he swept a lot of stuff. off under the rug, obviously, on his way to the top job. First chair, they call it, I think.

Oh, that's nice. Wow, that is really awful. Yep. So I'll skip over a chunk as well here, but we move to the 20th of January, 1993, when Bill Clinton was sworn in as the 42nd President of the United States. Wow. That's right. He's a president.

Whoa. Didn't know that, did you? Forty-second as well, isn't that? Save the secret to laugh. 42. Or the universe, whatever. And so he's on the late 40s? Yeah.

Wow. The boy president. Boy president. I was like, was he one of the youngest, but he wasn't the youngest. That's a rule that you've got to be over 35, right? So he couldn't have been much younger. I thought it was, I thought it was even older than that. That's crazy.

35's too young to be president. 35's too young to. I might be wrong. No, I think it's 35. But JFK is pretty young. Yeah, he was fairly young. And there was like one of the early ones. was like 42 or something.

Yeah, but when age expectancy was 45. Exactly. Like that was, you were an old man at that point. I think like you talk about old money, you know, you've got to talk about the, in today's age. Interesting. You know what I mean? No, I don't.

You know, like inflation. I think there should be age inflation. Yes. You go, oh, it was 10 threuppance back then, but now that's 17 million dollars. Exactly. 35 back then. Back then. Yeah, exactly.

On Theodore Roosevelt, 42. I said one of the old ones. Absolutely right. And then JFK, JFK, 43, Billkin, 46. So they're the young three. Yeah. Still, 40, like. 40s.

It doesn't feel right, but maybe that's when it should be. Or do you think, are there? I think we might be, we, I think, you know, generally speaking, we might be swinging the wrong way at the moment to maybe a little old. We've gone a little too old. But also, do you think there's, because I'm projecting a bit of my own lack of knowledge of anything onto other people, do you think there are. people that are 34, 35. Yes. Oh, okay.

There's some, like, some of the most impressive people I know are, you know, 20s and 30s for what do you mean? Impressive how? Just like formidable people who I'd put, I'd back to get anything done, you know? Oh. Like real guns. I mean, there's one in this room right now. We're looking around here.

There's only the three of us in this room. Yeah. They're obviously a pretty awkward person as well because they haven't identified themselves. Dave, you know how we said we'd keep an eye out for when his brain starts to go? You don't think Dave? I think he's seeing people. Maddie, I'm talking.

I think he's seeing people. Yes. I think it's time to up his meds. We'll chat to the nurses. Yeah, I like where this is going. Yeah, I'm seeing heaps of people. Oh, there's another one. So, here's Clinton.

His public image was overall quite positive. Authors Martin Walker and Bob Woodward stated that Clinton's innovative use of sound bite-ready dialogue, personal charisma and public perception-oriented campaigning were a major factor in his high public approval ratings. Don't you love that none of that is about being good at being the president? No, he was charming. He's good at politics, not good at making America better. Yeah. Or great again. Yeah.

Like others have proven better. Not naming names, but 50% of our audience are big fans. Yeah, it's weird how somebody gets to the top job, and then they're not, they don't actually do the job. They just try to make themselves look like they'd be good at it. Yes. It's really weird. It sucks. It sucks.

It's so annoying. Yeah. And that is like the job is just keeping the job. Yeah. I mean, I'm more. And so like not rocking the boat too much. It's like, no, you probably need to rock the boat to like change. to fix some stuff.

Yeah, don't you want? Why did you get into this? Yeah. To hold a job? Not long before Bill, they had a literal actor be the president. I'm, I think I'm now...

Britsa, yeah, I could do this, I reckon. Yeah. I can do what they want me to do. Dave, I'm talking Australia right now, but I don't know that much about America. I imagine that's similar over there, but they can only hold it for two terms anyway. Here, people, you know, sometimes they just keep holding it.

And there's... We're looking at you, Howard. Yeah. Get off at Howard. Get off the throne, Howard. Shit will get off the pot out. He's like, I've been shit for ages. I'm full of shit.

I mean, you don't want me getting off now. That's a bit of mess. When Clinton played the saxophone on the Arsenio Hall show, he was described by some religious conservatives as the MTV president. He was like a cool president. He was the first baby boomer president. He was like, people thought he was cool. It's so funny.

Yeah, of course. The baby boomers at one point were there. Yeah. The new young thing. Yeah. I mean, babies in their name. Yeah. Wow, so the MTV president. Yeah. And that was from conservative pundits. Yeah, they were saying it is a bad thing.

Yeah. They're trying to put him down. Yeah. Can I use the word pejorative there? It's like, yeah. It's like saying he's just a TikTok president. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that. MTV was the TikTok of the time. But the funny thing would be that a lot of people like, yeah, he is, isn't he? Let's all vote for it. Exactly. Which either way, there's no substance to it. He played saxophone on a dance. TV show?

Whoa! He's got my vote. But his presidency was not without scandal. Seriously, there were so many. But we're going to talk about one in particular. We've done the hair. We've done The Hair. We've done Trooper Gate.

I need to introduce our other main character. Monica Samil Lewinsky, born in San Francisco in 1973. She grew up in an affluent family in Southern California in the Westside Brentwood area of Los Angeles and later in Beverly Hills. Following her high school graduation in 1991, Lewinsky attended Santa Monica College, which is a two-year college, while working for the drama department at Beverly Hills High School and a Thai shop. A bit of fun. Spelling. Which type? T-I-E.

Ah. That's pretty cool. What were you hoping for? We thought like a beautiful... Like Thai restaurant. Hmm. You know, T-I-E restaurant. We have to up his meds.

I think her having a background in TIE has probably helped, you know, they had a sister. He'd put a tire and the doorknob of the Oval Office. So she came in handy there as well. Yeah. Handy. She sure did. Don't come knocking if the Oval Office is a rock. Mr. President.

The knob. I'm not having sexual relations in here, if that's what you're asking. The knob? The knob. Look at the knob, please. Can I enjoy your attention of the knob? Not that one. Mr. President.

Mr. President's such a funny phrase. Mr. President. There's no way you can say that isn't funny. Yeah. Mr. President. Always funny. Always funny. And I'm going to say it again today.

I'm Dave. I encourage you too as well. Jess, you too sure. I'm not sure if I want to. It's too powerful. It's too powerful. It's too powerful. It's too.

But what if someone like was late for an engagement and that we're talking to the president? Mm-hmm. What could they say? I guess if that was me, if I was late to an engagement. Yeah. If the president and I. had agreed on a time. Yes.

And I was arriving after that time. Yes. I think what I would probably say, just to address it early, would be, sorry I'm late, Mr. President. That's what I think of her in time. Is that the independence thing? Yeah. It's Randy Quaid. And I think of Jeff's impression, not the actual movie.

And what is it? He's like a plumber or something, but he's a pilot. A pilot. I thought it was on those movies where it was a guy. I was like, you know, they're so far out of their depth. He's like, he's all we got. No, he's like, all right, so you pull up on this handle and that'll make you go, I got it.

Send us in. No, if I remember correctly, he's like a, he's a bit of a washed up pilot, but when he was good, he was one of the best. And the president is also a pilot. So the president's off in a plane, like fighting from the front, like a true leader. And then they're like, oh, no. And it's Bill Pullman, right? Yeah, that's the president.

And they're like, oh, God, we're really, we're outnumbered and we're lost here. And then you're here, sorry, I'm late, Mr. President. And he's in a jet. It's very good stuff. We got to do that in the Dugo Movie Club at some point. Yes, I want to watch Independence Day. I saw it at the Flicks years ago. Really?

And you'll see that line and go, oh, Jess really overdoes it. It's actually a bit more payback that I'm, yeah. It's like a butler. Sorry, I'm late, Mr. President. He's actually quite nice about it, but I'm always like, Sorry, I'm late. Great line. One of my favourite lines in a film.

Okay, so she's working at a tie shop. In 93, she enrolled at Lewis and Clark College in Portland, Oregon, graduating with a bachelor's degree in psychology in 1995. Writing for the Washington Post in 1998, so many of the references I use are Washington Post articles from 1998. There's millions of them. Oh, that's around the time Independence Day came out, isn't it? Actually, one of them that I'm going to read is just a review of a review of

Independence Day. Anyway, so Jeff Lean says Monica Lewinsky got from Lewis and Clark to the White House through the intervention of retired New York insurance magnate Walter Kay, a friend of Hillary Clinton and Lewinsky's family, according to a government investigator. Kay also is a large contributor to the Democratic Party and was once an overnight guest at the White House. Kay and his wife, Selma, have given at least 388,000 to the Democratic National Committee since Clinton was elected in 1992 and about 80,000 more to other Democratic Committee.

and candidates, including Clinton, according to federal campaign records. So a family connection, a family friend. He's an intermediary. He was like, hey, I know this young lady who wants to get into politics. And I've donated nearly $400,000, or over $400,000. I think this is pretty rare in politics, isn't it? I think so, yeah. And that's why it's so not so noteworthy, that this psychology major gets an internship

at the White House. Yeah. It's not usually who you know. No. No, no, no, no. It's only what you know. But she does know psychological. Exactly. And that's important.

Do you think she said, I don't want to work at the White House? You're in. You're in. You have to. In reverse. Reverse psychology. So, yeah, with this instance of a family friend, Lewinsky secured an unpaid summer White House internship in the office of White House Chief of Staff, Leon Panetta. She moved to Washington, D.C. and took up a position in July of 1995.

I'm pretty sure while she was in D.C. for the internship, she was like, oh, no, I thought she was living in an apartment, the family owned, but she was living in an apartment at the Watergate Hotel, I think, with her mom. She was living at the Watergate? Her family's wealthy as well. During the scandal? No. Post scandal.

Was she there? She was there. Was she one of the ones that broke in? Does this one go all the way to the top? Yeah. Duh. So from Jeff Lean again from the Washington Post. one White House intern who worked Neil Lewinsky

during the summer of 1995 recalled that she seemed obsessed with Clinton and portrayed herself as having an uncommon amount of interaction with him she would come into our office and tell stories said the intern who asked not to be identified it would be things like she got a message from the president and he needed to see her as soon as possible

or the flowers she got on her desk were from the president the intern scoffed I would think right well I just got a call from the Kremlin equally ridiculous. Yeah. It just seemed rather unlikely. After a while, I just couldn't believe her anymore.

So she's sort of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, this one's just talking shit. But another former intern, Shannon Joyce, a 22-year-old George Washington University senior who worked in the same office as Lewinsky during the fall of 1995, remembers her co-worker merely as extroverted, hardworking, and ambitious. Obviously, to work in the White House for nothing, you have to admire the president and believe in his policies. but Lewinsky said nothing out of the ordinary, Joyce recalled. So that's where it gets a little bit interesting as well because this is only, of a lot of the articles I read, a lot of them are very like unkind to Lewinsky. This one at least tries to be somewhat balanced in terms of like, well, one person says this,

but another person's like, no, she's just an outgoing person. She's a young woman who's very bubbly and extroverted and that kind of stands out in the White House, which is quite sort of stuffy. and like proper and she's kind of a bit more like, hey, you know? But it's so funny, like, the person going on every, like, clearly that's very possible that she was getting flowers from and stuff. And if that's true, that's weird in itself, but not from her, that she's receiving flowers from the president.

It's weird on the president, isn't it? Yeah. But that isn't exactly the stand that anyone takes ever. That's so weird. It's really weird. So, she obviously, she did a good job. She was offered a paid position in December and she went to work in the White House Office of Legislatured Affairs. And in April, so that's December of 95. Whoa. Whoa. We just cracked this open. I think we cracked

up wide open. Oh my God. You are so good at this. Yeah, I'm on the scent. As soon as you gave me those extra meds, my smell really came good. You just gave him a bunch of ketamine, right? What are you sniffing right now? I can smell colours. So that was December of 95. In April of 96, so only a few months later, her superiors relocated her job to the Pentagon because they felt she was spending too much time around Clinton. Oh.

They were in fact correct in thinking Lewinsky was spending a bit too much time around the president, but by the time they moved her, if their plan was to prevent a scandalous situation, they were too late. Right. So who was worried about her spending too much time? Like her superior. Yeah. They weren't worried like, hey, you need to be focusing on this important work you're doing.

They're like, oh, he's fucking her and this is bad. This is going to be bad. Yep. Our job of getting him elected again. Yeah. That's so funny. Move her, quick. Just move her to the Pentagon.

Don't just say, hey, Bill, the fuck are you doing? Yeah. And so, hey, are you okay with this as well? he's obviously a man in a real position of power a lot older than you. You're okay. Oh, why would they ask a young woman that, Dave? Why? Nothing suss about a 47, 48-year-old man and a 22-year-old girl.

And he's the president of the United States. Jess, you are, you're talking about today's standards and putting him on the 90s. Consent wasn't invented yet. Power dynamics didn't exist yet. We've brought those in more recently. and they're awesome. So yeah, back in the November of 95, according to ABC News,

during a government shutdown that drastically reduced staffing at the White House, Lewinsky found herself delivering a slice of pizza to the Oval Office. Oh. In a flirtatious moment, she revealed the top of her thong underwear to the president as she walked away.

Later, he summoned her back to the Oval Office for the first of many sexual encounters that would occur over the course of several months. So that was her. that was all there bringing a man a pizza and you don't think you're going to get fucking a gobbie. Come on. You bring me a pizza, you're getting a gobi, okay?

That's how this works. You're giving the gobi. Yeah. Because somebody's brought you pizza. Yeah. Okay. How else you pay for the pizza? Yeah.

How do you pay for a pizza? What I love about that whole thing is like, it was a government shutdown, so the pizza boy wasn't there. Yeah. We usually have a pizza boy at the White House. Obviously. But we just had to get one of our other young staffs

to deliver the pizza. The president's hungry. You know, pizza was off. In terms of things that are not very sexy, the top of a thong hanging out of the top of pants. What do you mean? Ooh, la la.

That's salacious. Are you kidding me? Wait, is that we got a tramp stamp too? Yeah. Now things are heating up. Now things are heating. So he summoned it back for a second slice. I'm picturing.

A second slice. Actually, now I'm coming around. I'm picturing Kim. from Catherine Kim. She loves the, yeah, now, now I get it. That's pretty odd. Because you're picturing Kim now. Kim, yeah, yeah.

Just double-checking. We're all on the same page. Kim's a babe. By April of 1996, Clinton was up for re-election. Rumors of his questionable relationship with Lewinsky, then a White House intern working in the office, yeah, as we've already known, stoked fears among the president's staff that it might jeopardize his campaign.

So, yeah, Lewinsky, she's sent off to the Pentagon where she met and befriended Linda Tripp, who had previously worked in the Clinton White House. The two grew close, and eventually Lewinsky began sharing details of her sexual dalliances with the president with her new friend. They're just a couple of girls having girl chat at the office.

Yeah, and her friend's like, yeah, and I had sex with the Kremlin. Yeah, oh, yeah. And I had sex with Gorbachev. Gobbie Chov? Gobby Chov. Is there something in that? Gobby Chil.

That's why I went quiet for a second. There's something there. Make the link. Make the link. That's funny. Mr. President, tear down this pants. That's good, that's good stuff. This pants is very good.

So Linda Tripp was a bit older. She was about 24 years older. The Monica Lewinsky had been at the White House during the George H.W. Bush administration and it stayed on when Clinton became president in 93. An article from the Washington Post in 98 stated that during the summer of 94, senior White House aides wanted Tripp removed from the White House and transferred her to the public affairs office in the Pentagon, which raised her salary by 20 grand, which is a lot in the early 90s. And the article doesn't really get to the bottom of why the White House wanted to move

Trip. Oh dear. Like, well, they weren't sure if it was that like, yeah, I really don't know. But basically it's going, we'll pay a bit extra. To go work somewhere else. But it ended up being kind of fortuitous in the years to come. So something else to note is that Linda Tripp had worked in a position at the White House. in the council's office under Bernard Nussbaum, amazing, and his deputy, Vince Foster.

Vince Foster died by suicide in 1993 and Linda was reportedly the last person to see him alive. Then we introduced this other character, Lucian Goldberg, who had a literary agency and became known as a promoter of right-wing, tell-all attack books, according to the New York's time. So she was the US agent for the memoirs of Prince Charles's former valet, which were blocked for publication in England by Queen Elizabeth. She was sort of known for those kind of books. She was the agent for former detective Mark Furham's bestselling account of the O.J. Simpson trial.

She promoted a conspiracy theory book about the suicide death of Vince Foster and several books dealing with Clinton's sexual infidelities. None of these books about the Clinton ones never got published. But while she's sort of working on a proposal for the book about Vince Foster, she met Linda Tripp and the two became friends. And when Monica Lewinsky started to tell Tripp about her relationship with the president, Tripp mentioned it to Goldberg. And Goldberg told Tripp to start secretly recording the conversations.

Oh. She said, it's legal in Maryland. And I was like, okay. And then I was looked up, but I'm like, they're not in Maryland. So I'm not entirely sure. There's got to be a reason for that, but it didn't make a whole lot of sense. She's like, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. You can totally do that.

Hey, girls weekend in Maryland? What do we think? Maybe you can publish it in Maryland or something like that. Yeah, I'm not really sure. But I thought they were going to try and cut her in. Hey, tell her to tell this. We can make this. We can sell a million copies of this.

No, they're like, fuck her. You secretly record it. Linda, Tripp, you dog. She's like, this is salacious. So Goldberg. She thought she was her friend. Oh, no, that's really sad. Heartbreaking.

From the Washington Post again. New York literary agent Lucian Goldberg, who encouraged Tripp to record Lewinsky, has said she had, she has a tape of one of Goldberg's conversations with Tripp in which Goldberg erroneously advised her it was legal to tape in Maryland. The Baltimore son reported last month, however, that the Radio Shack employee who sold Tripp the recording device says he told her it was illegal to use without first obtaining the other party's consent. Tripp has denied through a spokesman that she was told that.

That is so funny that she's like buying a recording device and it's obviously a bit sketchy so the radio shack guy's like, you know you have to have someone's consent to record them, right? Yeah, just put it in the back. Yeah. Jess, I try to tell you, consent didn't exist back then. Exactly, so she's like, he said some words, but I didn't know what that was. They're noises back then.

Like Charlie Brown's teacher, just honking kind of that sort of. That's it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what you hear when I speak. You know, here when you're at J.B.

High Fine, you buy an item. They go through all the ways it's legal and illegal to use that item. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. What button do I press a skip this? I'm buying an SD card. I'm a real person. You can't skip me.

Skip, I'm pressing their nose. Skip. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've read their terms of conditions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tick, tick, tick, shut up. Would you like us to SMS you a receipt? No, just give me the paper one.

Okay, thank you for shopping with us today. Fuck off. You're a real piece of work. Oh, I'm a nightmare customer, yeah, yeah. I worked in retail for quite a long time. So you're allowed to. Exactly. You would think that that would make me nicer to retail workers,

but if anything, I think, no, I've done my time. Yeah, I suffer so now you have to. Now, you have to. Now, I walk in before they're open and I say, Hello! Hello, could I get any help over here? Hello? I'm really fun. Anyway, so Lewinsky, she's gossiping with a friend, usually over the phone and getting her advice and help in drafting love notes to the president. In a 2001 interview with Nancy Collins of ABC News, Tripp said, I was fascinated. Could he be that reckless? Could he be that arrogantly reckless to Philander with the child? I was reeling from the horror of it all. Wait, hang on.

How old was she? 22. Which, I mean, you made a 22 year old now. You're like, okay, you are. Oh, yeah. You're a baby. Can I say she's reeling from the horror, but also secretly recording the conversations and selling them.

Yeah, she's not, she's reeling, but she's not saying, hey, are you, okay? Are you all right? Yeah, this power imbalance is. Hey, sorry, can you repeat that? I mean, sorry, I miss what you said. Can you repeat that? Honestly, I think in the 90s and it was like, holy shit, you're fucking the president. People are going, why, are you sure you're, this is, he's way more powerful than you? Yeah.

I don't, I mean, I was a child in the 90s. Yeah. So maybe I, I, oh, what, sorry, which 90s we're talking about? This woman's fucking George Washington. Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought we're talking about the 1590s. Yeah, yeah, no, 19. And that was BC.

1590 BC. Yeah. We all remember it well. So Lewinsky often recounted her exchanges with the president, including their late-night phone conversations. In that same 2001 interview, Tripp admitted that she found Lewinsky immature and a groupie, but she said she was more than happy to listen to her. She's not very kind. Such recorder.

That's true. Tripp. Tripp's not coming off great. No. The ABC News article also includes transcripts of a few of their conversations. One in particular did make me laugh. Okay, I'll play both characters. Wow

generous casting Do you want to come here and play a character No no no I'm so excited I do you do both Do you want to come

and do a character I mean No I You got the fucking drama degree Mr. Watercare Now that Dave's excited Now that Dave's excited Otherwise I think I

I'd like to put myself forward for any future roles But show us how it's done first Okay Lewinsky I listen You'll get mad at me You know what I said

At the end Trip What Lewinsky the worst I could say We were getting off the phone I assume We were getting off and I'm like

All right I love you butthead Trip No Lewinsky Called him butthead Trip You didn't

Lewinsky I did Trip And what he say Lewinsky said that was it He just kind of hung up Or I hung up

I was like Oh my God What the hell just came out of my mouth Tripp Butthead Lewinsky Butthead That's great

That's just funny to read that. See, when you read that out, you go, well, she sounds like an old soul. You know, maybe she was 22 physically, but emotionally she does sound pretty mature. Yeah. All right, President Buthead. All right, I love you, butthead. But that does genuinely sound like something I would say. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I think of you as an old soul.

Which is what Leonardo DiCaprio says about his girlfriends. I assume. Yeah, they're old souls. Here's the thing. as I do get older and I gain slightly more self-awareness, I start to go, oh, I think I might be terrible. You know what I mean? I go, oh, oh, okay. I've always had that.

About me? Yeah. Nightmare. And yet here we are. Nearly 10 years like, what the fuck are you guys doing? Are you just trapped? No. Should we talk about this off air?

Yeah. Off air. Fuck off, mate. It's not radio. That won't have you. back for ABC News again. It was October 3, 1997, that Tripp recorded the first in a series of of many calls with Lewinsky in which they discussed everything from their workout and dieting schedules to the details of Lewinsky's intimate relationship with Clinton. Meanwhile, investigative

journalist Michael Isikov was looking into allegations of improper behavior towards women by Clinton when he learned that Trip might have some relevant information. When he tracked down Trip at the Pentagon, she told him about a young woman who had been a White House intern and who was having a relationship with Clinton. Tripp also relayed this information to lawyers for Paula Corbyn's Jones, who had filed a civil lawsuit against Clinton alleging sexual harassment and civil rights violations while he was governor of Arkansas. Clinton had denied these allegations. So there's kind of a few different... Why are we even talking about it? Why are we talking about it? He said...

This guy sounds like a guy who's a straight shooter. Oh my God. So he's... He was just like a grub forever. Oh yeah. And people have just enabled it. Yep. And so there's these two different investigations going on, both of which find out about Monica Lewinsky and about these tapes. So they're like, okay, well, that's probably quite relevant to what we're investigating as well. So Lewinsky, of course, is completely unaware that Tripp had betrayed her confidence and had been recording their conversations. And she said, like, it sounds like it's a, for Lewinsky, it's a happy relationship. She understands what's going on, apart from the power imbalance and all that. It's not like she, she is.

is like talking about it like it's a, it's a boyfriend. It's like a, yeah, it's a fun little trist, something like, yeah, she's, it's that forbidden thing and that's kind of fun and sexy and whatever. And, and I will say that she maintains the entire time that it was totally mutual and consensual. Yeah. She doesn't hold any of that against him. Much later in life, like much more recently, she sort of acknowledges that kind of power dynamic was fucked, but, but she still says it was consensual and neutral. Yeah, because it is the kind of, I mean, there's a reason. why that sort of stuff is not really acceptable anymore is because of that power imbalance.

Totally. So along with the recordings of the conversations, Tripp also persuaded Lewinsky to save the gifts Clinton had given her and to not dry clean a semen stained blue dress to keep it as an insurance policy. Who told her that? Trip. Told Lewinsky. Yeah. And at this stage, she still doesn't know that Trips.

Yeah, no, she has no idea. She's like insurance policy slash. That's evidence. And maybe you could sell it at, you know, at some sort of a Macy's. Are they the ones to do the auction? A Macy's auction? I don't know. Who am I thinking about?

Who's that big auctione is? Sotheby's. Macy's. That's a big department store. That's where the nanny shops. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She loves Macy's. Never retail.

You can't be retail. So that Paula Jones case, the woman who had accused Clinton of, of sexual harassment, they kind of brought Lewinsky in, and she submitted an affidavit that denied any physical relationship with Clinton. Right. Oh, they said, hey, do you want to make a complaint too? And she said, that's not happening. She said absolutely not.

No, that nothing has ever happened. She signed an affidavit. The story broke in mainstream press in January in the Washington Post. It swirled for several days despite swift denials from Clinton, and people were like demanding answers. So on January 26, President Clinton, standing with his wife, spoke at a White House press conference and issued a denial in which he said, now I have to go back to work on my State of the Union speech, and I worked on it until pretty late last night. But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have

sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time, never. These allegations are false, and I need to go back to. to work for the American people. Thank you. Man, that woman is so cold. That woman. Then he says Miss Lewinsky. Yeah, that's why I got to confuse with the Abbott thing, because she does say,

That man. That man. I will not be lectured on misogyny by that man. That's a great speech. Great speech. So the matter instantly occupied the news. Like, it's huge. And Lewinsky spent the next weeks hiding from public attention

in her mother's residence at the Watergate, complex. News of Lewinsky's affair with Andy Blaylor, her former high school drama instructor, also came to light, and he turned over to the investigator star, who'll come up again later, various souvenirs, photographs and documents that Lewinsky had sent him and his wife during the time she was at the White House. I don't know how or why that was relevant, but of course, this news of like an alleged affair comes up, so they dig into her past and find she's also had an affair with her former high school teacher. while she was a student

No, once she graduated Where I was going to say otherwise Is this guy going to get arrested or something? Yeah But it's starting to sound to me Like she's the common denominator here So

And that's from the feminist of the pipe I'm trying to see both sides of this But oh boy She's had She's got a type She's twice She's twice had affairs With old married men

Yeah Yep She's a home wrecker Yep. I think stamp. Matt's got his home wrecker stamp out. I got my home wrecker ta. I got my homewrecker feathers.

And my home wrecker stamp. Just to make sure, don't move moniker or stamp. That's the sound of the stamp. Feathers, that's the sound of the tar. He is good at sounds. So for the next several months and through this summer, the media debated whether or not an affair had occurred and whether or not Clinton had lied or obstructed justice,

but nothing could be definitively established beyond the taped recordings because Lewinsky was unwilling to discuss the affair or testify about it. Throughout the scandal, Hillary Clinton remained supportive of her husband. In an appearance on NBC's today, the day after his, I did not have sexual relations with that woman's speech, Hillary said, The great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it, is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband

since the day he announced for president. Babe. Do you reckon... Hillary, babe. Have you have any... I mean, how would you know, but do you have any thoughts on how much she knew? I've seen, like, snippets of a documentary

that was about Hillary where they kind of talk about it and, like, talk about him telling her. And I don't know at what point he told her. She was in the White House for some of these Daliances, but it's a big White House. You know, you can be in the same building and these things. But it's a preview. Like, it sounds like it's...

He's just been a cheater forever. This is not the first thing that he's been accused of. Yes. So, yeah, I don't really know. I think. Because it's like, yeah, she like, I'm just turning a blind eye. I know he's fucked, but it's business. Or is she like, I trust him.

I love him. I mean, whatever. Yeah. It's not really clear. And look, I think you can, there's a lot out there about it. And I could have gone really deep down a rabbit hole. And I was sort of like, I'm going to get lost in this. Yeah.

It's not really the story. I was just curious because I just wasn't sure if she's like since being like, yeah, no, no, he's fucked. But, you know, we're kind of, we're mainly in this for political careers. That's what I was going to say is that, like, I think a lot of people sort of say their relationship is really more of a business relationship rather than a, than like a romantic one, if that makes sense. Like, you know, even when he was running for president, part of his campaign or something he would say would be like, if you vote for me, you kind of get two presidents for the price of one. Oh, right. Because she was a very ambitious and is a very ambitious woman. and like very smart, successful in her own right.

And so, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if it was just kind of like a let's be a power couple together. And who knows? I think there's a lot of theories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she has to have known. And she definitely knew at some point and they stuck together. So.

I'm giving him one last chance. Okay. Okay. All right. All right, Bill. You got it? Any more weird affairs. I think, what did I say?

say 21 and that's it and we're up to 20 now for me once for me 20 once for me 20 once say you're that good that's very good that's really good for me 21st the youngest child of like I get a laugh you like you like it you like it tell me it was funny that wasn't me right say you're proud say you're proud of me pathetic for me 21st especially when you're actually the middle child of this podcast true That's why I act out so much. And that's why you forget me so much. Yeah.

Who said that? So forgettable. Forgettable? Anyway, Dave, I'm proud of as punches of what you've done today. Fuck. Thank you. This is a great story you're telling. I need that so badly.

Let's put it on the fridge right over here. Put this report on the fridge. It's gorgeous. It's my favorite one yet. You've done it again, Dave. Very proud of you. So it wasn't until... Oh, hey, Jess.

Hey. Sorry, I was just going to... Could I read send? Yeah, Dave. And Dave, just let me know if you need to talk. Technically, Jess wrote this report, but I will take the credit. Okay. Should.

You make everything better, Dave. It wasn't until July, six months after the story first broke, that Lewinsky received transactional immunity in exchange for grand jury testimony concerning her relationship with Clinton. Great. So it's like, we know you lied on an affidavit, and that is, you know, an offense. You could get in a lot of trouble for that. But we'll let that go.

You don't lie to a chemist. I assume they have to do them to chemists over there. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get a stat deck. Chemists or a dentist? Yeah, who else could do stat deck? Teachers, I think.

It's the same thing, isn't it? A stat deck in an affidavit. It's that kind of thing of just like a... I think an affidavit you have before dinner. Is that right? And the stat deck, I guess, would be after in that way. Am I getting confused? Can I have some more med?

More med for me. More med for Matt. You see you as the stat deck. Jack is a bit of a digestive. That's funny. So she, yeah, finally she's going to, like, actually tell the truth. She also turned over the semen-stained dress. Oh, that's what I do with a stamen-stained cushion.

Turned over. Yeah, she'll be right. She's got the dress. You're like, good as new. I can wear that tomorrow. That's how I get two days out of it. inside out. She's wearing an inside out dress to work.

All good, bad, you can't tell. That's Simon's name. It did not seep through. Fuel. Thick dress. Yeah, don't worry. I wear him thick. So at this point, Kenneth Star,

Ken Star is investigating. So he's a cop or is you like a... Ken Star. He is. Is he like an attorney time? I have it written down somewhere here, but I'll just... That is. What a name.

I miss that before. That's such a holl. Is that a double R on Star? He was independent counsel. Gotcha. Ken Star. Ken Star. Isn't that great?

Kenneth Winston Star. Oh, my God, it's even better. So he was independent counsel, and so, like, his role was basically to investigate, like, the politicians of any dodgy stuff. Try and get to the truth. Exactly. So the dress is turned over to his investigation. The FBI tested the dress and matched the semen stain to a blood sample from Clinton, thereby providing unambiguous circumstantial evidence

that proves the relationship despite Clinton's official denials. Oh, just because he came on a dress, all of a sudden that's sexual? Anyone could have been wearing that dress. That could have been any circumstances. She might not have been in the room. If I had a dime for every time I've come on something at work. I'm sorry, I had to clean it up with something. Oh, I grabbed the nearest dress.

And yes, this young lady in my office was wearing the dress at the time. Okay. But she works for me. First she brings me pizza and now he's a dress to clean us up. Okay. What would you have done? She was very happy to help the president. Yes.

Clean up a mess. Let me go back to my statement. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, but I did have sexual relations with that dress. Absolutely. That is a sexy dress. Oh my God bless America and God bless this cum on the dress. And I was just trying to. Is that, is that, just if I can ask, when you started the sentence, is that where you were hoping it would go?

No, I wasn't really sure, but I, um, I, um, I was just trying to. I do love that sort of hyperbolic, God bless America stuff. And I thought there might have been something in it. But it wasn't. Just come. It was coming in it. There's nothing more patriotic than turning a blue dress into a star spangled dress. Sprogg spangled dress.

I just thought it is like, to some people, the president's come would be like, that is. That's gold. That is like, you know, that come is. That is not your average come That is presidential sluge And people should be saluting it Yeah Seamen at ease

That's sort of thing Yeah Anyway we'll cut all of that out AJ Will we? AJ? Is he listening? Comedy festival this year

Quite a few people told me AJ that you do not cut things out So just putting out there Well I think it's because he doesn't listen So I think if that's feedback that you actually want to give him, you're going to have to contact him in a different way. Yeah, I'm going to have to corner him somewhere. Yeah.

He doesn't listen. He doesn't listen. He takes the file and he uploads the file. Yeah, and we're very grateful for that. We pay him well for it. He puts the song on at the start of the end. Does he put the song on still? I don't know.

I'll do it now. Dum, do it. So finally, with that kind of evidence, Clinton finally admitted in a taped grand jury testimony on August 17, 1998, that he had engaged in a. an improper physical relationship with Lewinsky. That evening he gave a nationally televised statement admitting that his relationship with

Lewinsky was not appropriate and it was wrong. And he admits to misleading people, including his wife. There's news footage of like people in bars watching this statement all going like, oh my God. Yeah. Oh, my God. It was big news. How horny president has been.

Not to no good. I don't want a president who fucks. Not like this. Not like this. I think that's fair enough. So did he give the blood sample? He must have been like, oh, I hope that's spunk as someone else's. Yeah.

Oh, God. Yeah, he must have been like, I think I'm plucked here. Yeah, this is the last roll of the dice. Hopefully there's a mix. He probably tried to, like, bribe the lab and stuff. Probably. But does this not make you feel like a bit more, a bit more trust in the office? Because we're always like, they could sweep up.

anything under the rug. He didn't sweep this. Hmm. I'm surprised that he didn't, you know, it sounds like a few of the other earliest stuff that has not been proven or denied when he was a governor or whatever. But this, he hasn't made, it hasn't gone to what? If you can't sweep. If you can't sweep, you distract. Yeah. So, this is obviously huge news. Far reaching consequences. A quick side note from Wikipedia. On the 20th of August, three days after Clinton testified on the Monica Lewinsky scandal,

Operation Infinite Reach launched. Missile attacks against Al-Qaeda based in Afghanistan and the pharmaceutical factory in Sudan in retaliation for the 1998 United States Embassy bombings. Some countries, media outlets, protesters and Republicans accused Clinton of ordering the attacks as a diversion. The attacks also drew parallels to the then-released movie Wag the Dog, which features a fictional president faking a war in Albania

to distract attention from a sex scandal. Oh, wow. Administration officials denied any connection between the missile strikes and the ongoing scandal and the National Commission on terrorist attacks investigated and they found no reason to dispute this. Do you reckon they got the idea from the wag the dog movie? Isn't that crazy? Mr. President, I've just seen the most... How transparent is that?

No, no, no, no, we were going to do this now anyway. I think there's other examples of like... Yeah, like so, like, yeah, a lot of wars. I mean, just used to... Hey, look over there. You know, I mean, that's, that's modern politics. What's that? Things aren't going my way?

Yeah. Well, did you know that these people are coming in and taking your job? Yeah, they make you look over there so that you're not seeing the fuck thing they're doing over there. Come on the dress. Or whatever. Figuratively. Yeah. Often it's more.

Or literally. Blood on the summon. Money on the, oh no, they, they're going, look at the blood. We're killing people over there. So don't look at this money we're hoarding over here. Sorry, that was probably a bit political for this. I know a lot of people want impartiality and they want to hear both sides.

Well, here's the other side. Hey, some politicians are all right. Hey, guys, money, it's useful. Yeah. It can be quite useful, yeah. I'd like some of it. End of story. For the other side of the story,

I mean, I'm obviously representing the commies. Dave, as a capo, what do you reckon? I just said, money is useful. Money makes a world go around. Okay? Comies don't listen. do they? They don't like to listen.

Well, we're under the bed, okay? It's hard to hear on here. Everything sounds muffled. You know, like Charlie Brown's teacher, for example. I think that I didn't understand at the time, but it's proved very useful. Yeah, really great topical reference, I think. 45 minutes later. You said that today, right?

Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah. In his deposition for the Jones lawsuit, it was the one where the woman was accusing him of other sexual harassment, Clinton denied having sexual relations with Lewinsky. Based on the evidence, a blue dress with Clinton Seaman, Stark concluded that the president's sworn testimony was perjurious. He basically tried to get away with it on a technicality.

The question was, have you ever had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky? And Clinton tries to get around it based on the definition of sexual relations. He later said, I thought the definition included any activity by me where I was the actor and came in contact with those parts of the body, which had been explicitly listed. In other words, he denied that he ever contacted Lewis. He's genitalia, groin, breasts, inner thighs, or buttocks, because that's how they were, like, very explicitly listed. They listed, oh, they said, have you ever had done this? Yeah.

Or this, or this, or this. And they didn't mention a gobi. Yeah, they didn't mention it. No, no, no, hang on. Effectively claimed that the agreed upon definition of sexual relations included giving oral sex, but excluded receiving oral sex. Oh, okay. Remember, Clinton is a lawyer, so he's trying to sneak around, but he's also kind of dobbing on

himself for being a selfish lover. it's so true Oh God, I've never done that She's done it to me She's done everything to me I've never done that Jeez Yeah

Clinton has also said There's not a sexual relationship An improper sexual relationship Or any other kind of improper relationship Which he defended is truthful Because his use Of the present tense

Arguing it depends on what The meaning of the word is Is Is Oh my God What? How did he get away with this? It's such a lawyer move

Lewinsky's testimony to the Star Commission, however, contradicted Clinton's claim of being totally passive in their encounters, because he's kind of like, I never touched her. I laid back. I, yeah. Oh, this is kind of like soaking. I was basically asleep. And I would wake up.

She's like, oh my God, what's happening? It's all a dream. A beautiful dream. So it depends on what your definition of is, is. And how you define sexual relations. I'd be so flustered, like, coming up against him. What's your definition? of is, well, um, oh, is. Okay, great. Is what is is? Um, yes, fantastic question. Okay.

Yeah. Is, it's, um, ooh. Um, no, just let him off. That's fine. Yeah. That's, uh, yeah, he's got me there. He is good. He is good. So two months after the Senate failed, uh, to convict him, President Clinton was held in civil contempt of court by Judge Susan Weber Wright for giving misleading testimony regarding his sexual relationship with Lewinsky. He was fined $90,000. And did he get himself off? I mean. Yeah.

And when he said the Senate didn't find it, is that because, like, you know, they're all, the Democratic majority in there, they went, nah, he's good? Yeah. So a few Democratic members of Congress and most in the opposition Republican Party claimed that Clinton's giving false testimony and allegedly influencing Lewinsey's testimony were crimes of obstruction of justice and perjury and thus impeachable offences. So the House of Representatives voted to issue two articles of impeachment against him, which was followed by a 21-day trial in the Senate.

Clinton was acquitted on both counts as neither received the necessary two-thirds majority vote, and he was therefore able to remain in office. There's a whole section on Wikipedia that details a bunch of hypocritical politicians who had supported the impeachment, which is just a bit of fun. So according to the British newspaper, The Guardian... It is very funny that, like, they're the people judging him. People are going, oh, I don't want to... I'm in a glass house here.

Yeah, listen to these. So you have Henry Hyde, Republican Chair of the House Judiciary Committee and lead house manager, also had an affair while in office as state legislator. Hyde, aged 70 during the Lewinsky hearings, dismissed it as youthful indiscretion. He was 41 at the time. Dan Burton, another Republican, said no one, regardless of what party they serve, no one, regardless of what branch of government they serve, should be allowed to get away with these alleged sexual improprieties. In 1998, Burton admitted that he himself had had

an affair in 1983, which produced a child. No one. I repeat, no one. No one should be, I shouldn't be held accountable. Just saying whatever needs to be said, that's amazing. I mean exactly what Clinton did. Yeah. People push back, he said, but what's the definition of no? Yeah. Yeah. Then we have Newt Gingrich. One of the craziest names of all time. Speaker of the House and leader of the Republican Revolution of 1994, admitted in 1998 to having an affair with the House Agricultural Committee staffer Callista Bizzek

while he was still married to his second wife. At the same time, he was leading the impeachment of Bill Clinton for perjury regarding an affair with intern Monica Lewinsky. I just feel like, yeah. Well, I mean, we're talking about distraction. It's incredible. Don't look at what I'm up to. Then there's also Stephen C. Laturette voted to impeach Bill Clinton for the Lewinsky scandal while he was having a long-term affair with his chief of staff.

Republican Helen Chenoweth Hague, it's just not all men from Idaho aggressively called. Something I often say. Aggressively called for the resignation of President Clinton and then admitted to her own six-year affair with a married rancher during the 80s. Incredible stuff. Look, and I don't think this is a double standard. but I think what she did was the worst of the list. I thought you were going to say, if it's empowering. It's actually kind of sexy and empowering.

You're like, no, she's the worst. Because I think, you know, I mean, a man has certain needs and weaknesses. Where a woman... They're only weak physically. Yes. And I think that if we can't trust women, then, you know, the whole basis of a society is coming down the draught. In my experience, they don't even enjoy sex.

In my experience. So why would she do that? I love it when they dove on themselves. It's so funny. It's good to be like, I never did any of that to her. It's like, okay, so you're just admitting to being a shit lover.

Selfish. I do see why, like, obviously, if they have an affair, I don't really care, like personally. Yeah. The circumstances are that it's the power and balance of that sort of stuff. But, you know,

if you have an affair, that's between you and your part, really. Yeah. If you're Hillary's mate, you're probably not loving it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, but if you have a friend, you jump in there and bat for a lot. But I do see how it is pretty dodgy that he's come out on national TV and said, this lady's lying.

Yeah. I know about sex with that. And then he's had to backtrack and say, all right, I, actually, I have. And then he's also done it in court as well. And it's amazing that he's able to survive. She was a young intern as well. Yeah, exactly. The circumstances are that, yeah, you are the president.

But apart from all that, what has he done wrong? But I can't believe that he's able to survive. The fact that he lied so, like... Dave, he doesn't just survive, he fucking thrives. Because he, that's his first term, isn't it? Or was that his second term? First. So he got re-elected after that then.

Did he? I actually can't believe it. I can't remember him. I do vaguely remember him recovering so that it was, you know, it was just this funny thing. He's a scamp. He was... Oh, Bill. Oh, Bill.

Oh, Bill. Clap. Boys will be boys. He was a president from 93. So yeah, he must have been reelected around the same time that this came out, right? 93. When did it? So when was this?

No, maybe he'd just been reelected. Okay, yep. That makes more sense, I think. But then he was able to hang on. It was 98 that it came out. Right. But it happened earlier. But yeah, he was able to just hang on.

But yeah, the hypocrisy is crazy too. So. Yeah, so yeah, he second term would have been, yeah, 97. Yeah. And I have like, this is a big news story. Like I said, there's like a million other things happening all around the same time and all through his presidency and stuff. I've just tried to kind of summarise this one thing because again, like Dave said at the start, it was that thing of like I know the name, Lewinsky. I know that they had an affair, but I didn't really know all that much about it.

I knew the blue dress, but I don't even know the circumstances really about. Chelsea being a teenager at the time would have been fun for her. She was 18, 17, 18, finding that out. Horrific. And like the press are obviously hounding Monica as well. Oh, my God, yes. for her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But they're just doing their job trying to find the truth. You're not going to, well, you're not casting aspersions on, on the fourth of state. If the truth sells newspapers, well. Well, one of the newspapers is the truth. Good for that. Good for that. If you know what I mean. I know what I mean.

No further questions. So obviously this whole scandal is, yeah, like I was saying, something we grew up with, lots of other things have happened. He came out of it relatively unscathed. In fact, Clinton was selected as Times Man of the Year in 1992. This is before all that. And then again in 1998, the year of the scandal, along with Ken Starr, the independent council, who investigated him. The year of this scandal, he is Times Man of the Year.

That is also about like your influence or how famous and stuff. He did it one year, didn't. Yeah, it doesn't mean that you are the best person. Isn't that a bit fucking crazy though? Yeah. I mean, you've got to remember that the horsewoman of the year. Sports woman of the year. The horse woman of the year.

That was way more sense if it was horse woman of the year. Sports woman of the year was like caviar. That's right. A horse. So that's true. It's, you know, they, well, obviously those two men were very well publicised that year. But the following year in 1999, Clinton was among 18 included in the list of most widely admired people of the 20th century. Wow.

He's fine. He has so many honorary degrees, accolades, awards. He has Grammys. He still makes... He's an eagot. He makes hundreds of thousands of dollars speaking arrangements. He's fine. Wow. The Clinton Lewinsky scandal was subject to widespread media coverage resulting in considerable difficulties for Monica Lewinsky later in life as she attempted to find employment. Her immunity agreement restricted what she could. could talk about publicly, but she was able to cooperate with Andrew Morton in his writing of Monica's story, her biography, which included her side of the Clinton affair. The book was published in 99, the same month as she appeared in interview with Barbara Walters on ABC's show 2020. 70 million Americans tuned in, which was a record for a news show. That's amazing. Lewinsky made about $500,000 from her participation in the book and another million from

international rights to Walter's interview, but was still troubled by high legal bills and living costs. I don't know why she has lots of legal fees, but I mean, obviously she would have needed lawyers and stuff to defend herself, but legal fees comes up for a while, so it must have really accrued a lot of fees. In September of 99, she released a line of handbags, and at the start of 2000, she began appearing in television commercials for the diet company Jenny Craig. The $1 million endorsement deal, which required Lewinsky to lose 40 or more pounds in six months, gained considerable publicity at the time. The choice of Lewinsky as a role model proved controversial for Jenny Craig and some of its private franchises switched to an older advertising

campaign. So even people within Jenny Craig were like, nah. So the company stopped running the Lewinsky ads in February. They didn't like, why didn't they like it? Because she wasn't, her choice, her, the choice of her as a role model was controversial. Oh, okay. Because this was all her her fault. She's had sex, she's had sex. She's had sex. She's had sex. That's inappropriate. Well, like I was saying before, now, I hope this doesn't come across as a double scene. But when there's a relationship like this between a man and a woman, the man can only resist so much. And when, and I, and I hope this isn't inflammatory or anything, when a she-devil, like her. I just spat everywhere.

You know, uses her wiles, I think. And I hope this isn't coming across in the wrong way, because I am coming from a feminist point of view here. It's hard to. It's hard to feel good about it, isn't it? But it is funny, but it is hard to feel good about it. Well, it's, it's funny because it's, I mean, at its heart, what I'm sharing is a truth. You know, a universal truth.

And that, and sometimes things are funny because they're true. But it is true that people do talk like that, which is hectic. So that was like January of 99. By February they've stopped running the ads. They conclude her campaign entirely by April, and they paid her $300,000 instead of the $1 million contract. Oh, come on. You've got to pay the money anyway, surely.

Later in 2000, she worked as a correspondent for Channel 5 in the UK on the show Monica's Postcards, reporting on US culture and trends from a variety of locations. The show was called Monica's postcards and she wasn't even the host. How many monicas hosted this show? And now we cross to another moniker. That's a good concept for a show that, Every single presenter, that's the same name.

Thanks, Monica. Hi, I'm Monica. Yeah, that sounds good. That's fun. Monica of the week. Yeah. Now to sum up the weekend sport, we cross to Monica Salas. Oh, yes.

That's fun stuff. Life for the tennis school. By 2005, Lewinsky found that she couldn't, she couldn't escape the spotlight in the US, which made both her professional and personal life very difficult. She stopped selling a handbag line and moved to London to study social psychology at the London School of Economics. In December of 2006, she got. graduated with a Masters of Science degree, and for the next decade, she sort of tried to avoid publicity. She re-emerged in 2014, writing an essay for Vanity Fair titled Shame and

Survival, and that same year, she took a public stand against cyberbullying, calling herself Patient Zero of Online Harassment. She has spoken and written about that topic a lot, but it seems like it's a lot harder for her to shake the scandal than it has been for Bill. Like, she's synonymous with it, but he kind of isn't. He also played saxophone. So people will remember multiple things about him. Yeah. He also had great hair. And that said, like, you know, she's sort of saying she wants to separate herself

from it, but she was a co-producer on a season of the TV series American crime story that focused on the Clinton Lewinsky scandal in 2019. You know they made that. Which, yeah, it must be a tight spoke. She's like, ah, I need money. This is the easiest way for me to make money. Yeah, yeah. She's like, this is my story.

I don't want them to make a fuck at up. Yeah, that's a very good point too, yeah. Is, am I remembering this right that she was sort of like a style icon for a bit? People would get the Monica Lewinsky haircut and stuff. I think so, yeah, yeah. Get the Rachel or the moniker. That's what people, or I might be confusing something else. There wasn't another moniker on that show as well.

The moniker show, yeah, I know. They were all moniker, Dave. It was called the moniker show, Dave. Does he listen? I don't know if he does. Yeah, so it's very interesting to look at it through a modern lens because you do go, oh, he's fine. he's completely unscathed by this despite being accused of so many horrific things through his entire political career

and she she fooled around with the president at 22 and it's like to find her entire life yeah crazy and it's still something that every time she does anything it's like it's what comes up it's what she's known for like if she was on rove and she probably was at one point yeah um he would brought it up before asking who would you have turned gay four gay four asking the good questions so yeah that's kind of a uh that's basically a little for those of us who grew up knowing the name monica loinsky and knowing the scandal but not really knowing all that much about it that's kind of a bit of an explainer for you yeah thanks for the the background there it's kind of fucked yeah it's not a lovely story no no no it's not a nice story oh there you go i've just

googled Monica Lewinsky, and a couple of days ago, she was on armchair expert with Dax Shepard. Oh, there you go. She's big on the podcast this week then. I wonder if it came up. It would be annoying. What is this? Oh, she was on Caller Daddy. 25 years later, she'd have to still be talking about that. Yeah, I know. It would be like, this is this, why is this the thing that defines my entire life? Yeah, she was on Call her Daddy earlier this year and that, it definitely came up then, for sure. All right. So, it's, it's, It's, yeah. But now she's sort of known more as an activist.

Like the cyber bullying stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Talks about that a lot. I think she did a TED talk about it. She's got a production company now. So. She got a podcast called Reclaiming.

Let's come up here. Because sometimes stuff of us speaking still goes viral. Yeah. Speaking about that element of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not just she pronounces words funny. Oh, she's gone viral again for a speaking. Can you believe?

Did you hear? She said, Ample, when she meant Apple. If people could go viral for that, you would be the biggest star of the internet. I know, if there was any justice. Classic women taking all the publicity again. My goodness. But there you go. That is the Clinton Lewinsky scandal.

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And the topic that you discussed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that kind of a very interesting. I found that eye opening. Yeah, really Mike Moore off the old Rob Sitch front line. Oh, yes. Every story would come back on, hmm. Fascinating stuff.

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And it got good. Sophie Waldron said he's a fake fan. He didn't go to Dave's show. This was on the opening night of mine. What the hell, Stephen? When he came second night to mine, I'm like, you love me twice as much as Dave. And he said, well, I actually got he halfway through. It's only one and a half times.

Bit of fun that was had. Bit of fun. And mathematically that doesn't really work because one and a half times zero is still zero. Anyway, thank you so much to Stephen, Richard and Bob. And just a quick update, Solid Jackson appears to be a character from the Discworld series, the Territritory character. which a lot of our listeners are big fans are. I've read a couple of Pratchit books.

Bit of fun. Great. I did an episode on one of them on primates because the librarian is an orangutan. Beautiful. Have you done one? Have you done one on Bookcheat? No, I haven't.

No. That's why I know people love it because I get so many requests. When you do, can I? I mean, I'm on every other episode anyway. Can I be on that one? I'll think about it. I'm busy. I'm having deja vu

me begging and you're like please don't I'm okay Jess what are you doing tomorrow I'm dead Dave can I please come on tomorrow just got cancer Jess still come tomorrow

You want it too bad Yeah I want it cool I want it real bad Now the next thing we'd like to do is shout out to a few of our other great supporters

Justin wears a game based on the topic of the day I was thinking of because you know like Watergate, Trooper Gate, I'm thinking of like, let's come up with some sort of gate scandal for them. I like it. That's really good.

That's probably better than mine. I was going to be like, what are we, we assume they've done something bad in the Oval Office and we have to create a diversion. Oh, yeah, that's pretty good. But I like it was better. Where did you think he was going with that?

Oh, you never know with him. That's the thing. I thought it's going to be something like, what's their blue? address. Yeah. What did they get come on? Yeah, that's what I was thinking it was going to do.

All right, well, do you want to do the gates, Bob? And me and Dave will do the addresses and names. Yep. All right, Dave, you want address or names? I'll take names. I did address last week. All right. First up from, ooh.

You don't have to justify it. Address unknown. It can only assume from deep within the fortress of the malls. It's Venna or Vena, V-E-N-A. Surname, probably H based on the email address. Cheesegate. Cheesegate, okay. Oh, why they eat too much and then embarrassing enough?

Sub-Judacy, man. I'm not actually saying what's before the court. This is below judicry. I can't go. Yeah, I think maybe like Andy Matthew Matthews eats a block of cheese like an apple. What? Picks up like a hand fruit. Yeah, yeah.

Just takes a big bite. Yeah. He's a weird guy. Shout out if you're listening. This is the second week in a row. Yeah, we bring him up most weeks. Andy Slander. And I, I, I, I,

I'm waiting for him to message me and say, Jess, what's going on? Oh, actually, that's a good point. Maybe he's dropped off. Maybe he's not listening. He still messes me about who knew it, though. You don't eat cheese just like an apple. You fucking psychopath.

I'm here for it. Yeah, you would be. I love cheese. You're a little freak too. It really depends on what it is. If it's like a, maybe a wheel of bray, I can get that. But if someone said, you can have a bite of this apple or a bite of this cheese. I'm picking the cheese 10 times out of 10.

I'd like a bite of each, please. Depending on the cheese. I'd like a slice of each together. That'd be nice. Now we're talking. That's what I actually want. Okay. Well, all right.

I didn't know that was an option, even though I came with the question. Well, too bad. You've locked it in. Damn it. I think so much Vina. Okay. Cheers Gate. Cheers Gate.

Cheesegate. Next up, I'd love to thank from Viewbank here in Victoria. It's L. Taylor. Pyeate. Oh. I'm listening. Viewbank. Where's Viewbank?

It involves you. I reckon, I don't know where Viewbank is. I think it's a suburban Melbourne, though. That's right. That's a Broden Kelly territory. But I bet you that there's a bakery there that has a sign out. the front saying best pie in Australia. And I reckon that's what the pie gate was surrounding.

Yeah. That scandal. Thank you so much to L. Next up I'd love to thank from Dixon, Kentucky. It's Justin Graham or Justin Graham. Wipe gate. Oh, window wiper. Wipe gate.

They put... Yes, I'm looking around the room. They, um... I've got this little used wipe here. I was looking at the packet to be. be fair. I think this is like someone put a flyer under the windscreen wiper. Yeah.

And Justin came and screwed it up, chucked it out. I don't want that. But unfortunately underneath that was a parking fine, which he also chucked out, which led to quite a scandal, to say the least. To say the least. Thank you so much to Justin. From Phoenix, Arizona. Thank you.

Say hi to Charles Barkley for us. Hello, Charles Barkley. Christina fam. Giraffgate. Draftgate. Hey. Not just looking around the room now, am I? No.

She's using her imagination. Thinking of an animal. When we're in the Christina Club, we're all Christina fam. Yeah, giraffe gate. What happened there? She painted a llama brown and gold. Yep. And charged little kitties, $5 to go to see the giraffe at her backyard zoo.

And, yeah, I fooled a couple of them, but eventually they're... A couple of the young ones. Yeah, kids. Kids are dumb. But yeah, but once people figure it out, it creates, created quite a havoc. Created quite a havoc. Created quite a havoc. You know, the phrase people say...

Havoc is the name of my dog's biological father. Oh, my God. That's a wild name for a dog. Just yesterday. I'm at Walken Humphrey, who is a grudel. and another grudel approaches and the lady says, ah, he's got a little white poor.

Our dog used to have that, but it's faded away and she goes, where'd you get him from? It was Humphrey's half-sister. Whoa! Do you believe it? Whoa. Same mother.

That is crazy. And you're on the set of Jerry Springer at the time, weren't you? You are this dog's mother. Can I touch Steve's head? From Chicago, the Windy City, second city in Illinois in the US.

Thank you to Stephen Gonzalez. Incredible name. Stephen Gonzalez. Of course. Jess is going deep into the mind palaces. She's closed her eyes and she can't literally can't look around the room. But she's looking, you look up to remember. She's looking down, which means she's trying to forget.

Pena colladas. Is that right? Is that the song where they go some dance to remember something? Pinacolada gate. I wonder where she gets her ideas from. I'm listening again. Is that the lyrics from that song? If you like Pina Colada?

Yeah, do they know some... Remember? Some different... No, it's Eagles. I think it's Hotel California. Very similar songs. Very similar songs. Both absolute classics.

They go a little too long. Stephen Gonzalez, Pinnacolada gate. Oh my gosh. That one did involve some murder. Yeah. So let's be gentle with how we talk about this one. Yeah. The only clue left at the scene was a half-drunken Pina-Kalada.

That's right. And they found, they found Stephen to be guilty when he pissed pineappily the next day. Is this piss pineappily? Yeah. Is this piss pinnably to you? Is this pissing this in an dismissible? It's pissable. Is it admissible?

Is this inadmissible? Is this inadmissible? Well, what's your definition of is? Piz. Piz. From, oh my God, dingley village. Go dingo. here in Victoria, it's a S.K. Taylor. Shellgate.

Oh, we're talking like the big oil company or a little shell. Both. Oh my gosh. Oh, my God. This little shell goes all the way to the top. Oh, my God. Okay. I can't say much. Is it about how they forgot to change the batteries in the shells years ago? Now shells are just these sort of dormant looking things when they used to fly around, chirping about. Oh, my God. And this goes all the way to the top of shells. all the way of the top of shell. Oh my God. This is big.

It's crazy. That's real big. S.K. Taylor. I can't wait to hear you trying to talk your way out of this one. I can't wait to read your tell or book. From here in Frankston, South Victoria, it's Mitchell Watts. And Mitchell Watts is famous. Obviously for being part of Hatgate.

Oh, Hatgate. Yeah. Yeah. He was the guy who sold the emperor a hat. And obviously there was, yeah, the emperor took him out as well as other habitashers from around the town who sold him all sorts of clothes. There weren't, in fact, clothes at all. Yeah, they were just sort of like rags and stuff. Whoa.

What are clothes if not rags? That's a great point. And that's exactly what Bill Clinton said in court. Depends on what your definition of clothes. A second to last now from Van Wirt, Ohio, God's country itself, Gads Country. It's Curtis Radabow. Gate, gate. Gate, gate, fantastic.

Which, do you remember? Shut the gate. And all the sheep got out. Curtis, when will you learn? Come on. Do people call you rad? What is great surname Radabow? Do you remember when I did the presidential incidents and I talked about?

A few of the live episode last year. Absolutely. And I talked about there's not one but two gate gates. This is the third gate gate gate. Wow, can't believe it. The least serious of the three. Yeah, but those sheep are going to be hard to get back in. Yeah, because they don't have good recall sheep.

No. They're all following the leader. The least serious. Remember one guy was late for soccer training and he was a professional athlete and he said that the gate had broken down. And like the power went out. I couldn't get out, couldn't come to the soccer training. And then his coach came around and it was like, it's like 60 centimetre store. You could just jump it.

He needed to think of a better lie. Okay, okay. Love it. But this is even. If you need a reason, like if you need an easy lie, just say diarrhea. Yeah. Nobody questions diarrhea. No.

Period pain. That coach is coming around. You probably, I don't think you could. Cramps. You could say cramps. Yeah, Kemp a Vega. Yeah. Cramps.

And cramps. And diarrhea. Say it looking like. this cramps because that's this is my most believable face go and accuse me something Matt what the fuck do we're supposed to start at 11 and it's 1145 where have you been cramping okay I've got cramps okay I'm very sorry to hear that do you need a heat pack yes good answer okay is that right yeah okay always accept the heat pack he fell for it heat packs make it worse if he really cramped like that could have been the case and finally

from, oh, once again from address unknown. Oh, am I to assume that this person is also from the fortress of the moles? Well, Dave, don't yawn. We got feedback when you're on last time. That yawn rang around the world.

I don't remember that. Everyone, I mean, I got me. I saw three or four messages saying, I yawned. Was this recently? Yeah, might have been in a bonus. Well, I mean, you were yawning at the time, Dave, so.

Don't do it. What's wrong with you? People are driving off the road right now. Oh my God, so I don't want to kill anyone. Say the last name for fuck sake. Thank you to Larta Chari. Lata Shari. Beard gate.

Oh, yeah. So Lata was living in my beard for weeks. And I didn't know. And they did not pay rent. Not at all? Not rent free? Not a penny. They were living rent free in my beard.

That's ridiculous. Yeah. But I forgive you Lata. Thanks so much to L to Curtis, Mitchell, S.K., Stephen, Christina, Justin, L and Vina. And the last thing we need to do is welcome in some people

into the Triptage Club, which Dave explains so well, I think. This is our basically Hall of Fame for people that have been supporting this show on the shout-out level or above for three consecutive years. They've already had a shout-out previously. But now we are going to welcome them into our clubhouse, our hangout zone where you and a

maybe a thousand-up other members that have so far gone in can never leave, but why would you want to? Because we provide the full package, drinks, dinner, entertainment, places to sleep and places for you time. Yeah. Do with that what you will. Places to come. And Jess, you're, so I'm in, I mean, this is the litter of mine. I'm standing at the door.

About to lift the velvet rope. Read out, who, five names this week. And you head on in. David's going to hype you up. He's emceeing the show. He's also booked a band for the after party. Jess has worked on a drink based on, oh my God, this could be tasty. What have you whipped up this week based on today's topic?

Well, I'm trying to, I've got the dress and I'm trying to extract as much as I can. You've got the original dress? It's not the original dress. Does someone own that now? That's something that people would bid big money for a museum. It would be in a museum somewhere, surely. That's fucked. No, surely it's surely not.

I'm no, I've just got a red, white and blue cocktail, baby. God bless your cocktail. That was a really nice salute. Mr. President. Oh, you should call it Mr. President. It's called, sorry, I'm late Mr. President. And it's, and it takes 15 minutes once you've ordered it. It's not that it takes me that long to make it.

It's that I wait 15 minutes and then I give it to you. And then I say, sorry, this is late, Mr. President. And you always do one with them as well. Of course. I'm incredibly drunk. And Dave, you booked a man? Yes. Last week, I think you booked Mr. President.

You never got to believe if I booked this week. What? When you read out the title of this episode, what are you talking about? Because I've been in Negotiations with this artist for nine months. I've just looked at the emails. And they've just come through as you start the episode. It's Monica. Oh, we got Monica?

The boy is mine. Whoa. Can you give me a bar of that? The boy is mine. Is this a song we know or not? Yeah, that's a big one. Is that the... That's a big one?

Is that a Michael Jackson song or something? No, that's the girl is mine, I guess. Is it? Does he have a song something like that? I'm giving you a blank expression. Come on, this is a big song. It's had... How many...

It's had 300 million plays on Spotify. 300 million. Yeah. I recognise the title of the boys' mum, but I can't think of how it goes. You'll know it. And we'll get in trouble if we play it. Yeah, that's fine.

No, I'm thinking of... Let's play it after. I've looked up Michael Jackson. the boy is mine and it says, that's the opposite already said. He said, it's not his son. Oh, I see.

He's sort of like, he really, Michael Jackson, that whole song was really like Bill Clintoning it, wasn't it? Yeah. I don't even know this woman. I've never even met that woman. Billy Jean, or that woman, as I'd call her. Not my lover.

She's just an intern. He thinks that I'm the one. the boy is not my son I just looked up in 2015 the Las Vegas Erotic Heritage Museum offered Lewinsky $1 million for the dress she didn't take the offer That's probably a good call I think yeah

Yeah Maybe she's gonna clone another bill Do you think the technology's there yet? Not quite No, that's what she's waiting It's cryogenically frozen Comes out and he's half man, half dress Oh no, some of the threads

intertwined with the DNA. All right, so we got five inductees. Hang around four, of course, Monica. The boy is mine. I was thinking, get out right now, but that's Jojo. Yeah, bugger. The end of you and me. All right.

That has nothing to do with the boy being one. We'll edit this out, but I'll play it. And then you can sing it. And then you just say what you recognize it. All right. And we're back. from listening to Monica's The Boy is Mine. And say, uh, maybe.

It started with the boy is mine. Yeah, you loved that bit. Um, but yeah, she, she had a lot of hits in America. That was number one, the first night, angel of mine. But the boy was mine did chart at number three in Australia in 1998. Appropriate year too, Dave. Wow. Whoa.

Yeah, that's another coincidence. Wow. Angel of mine was another hit Wow, she loves mine But she's a lot bigger in America The boy is mine, the angel is mine Yeah, a bit possessive Come on.

All eyes on me is another one Foof, all right All eyes on me Settle down All right, so Here we go Five names Dave, you ready to hop up Jess, you ready to hold Dave

My hand is on the tush Thank you Here we go, first up from London in Great Britain, it's Abel Brace Girdle. I'm willing and able to welcome in Abel Brace Girdle. Oh, that's good. Welcome in Abel. Next up from...

Dave already did that. You already welcomed Abel in. Just keep the flow going for fuck sake. What the hell, man? Broke the flow. Jesus Christ, you're so insufferable. Next, I'm so sorry. Next up from Address Unknown.

This is why they don't let me inside the building. I can only shoot from deep within the fortress of the malls. Welcome in Patrick J. Ryan. I like magic, but I prefer Patrick. Oh, that is nice. Jay Ryan. From, I want to say, air in South Airshire in Great Britain, it's Norman River. I'll be storming down that river with Norman River.

We stormed down that river. From Perth in Western Australia. Welcome in Celeste Hagi Ali. Celeste is best. We can all agree. Woo! That's great name. And finally, sorry for doing that again.

from finally Denver, Colorado. It's Evan Waterman. We've got a new best Evan. It's Evan Waterman. Welcome in Evan, Celeste, Norman, Patrick and Abel. Just make yourselves at home. Grab a red, white and blue, Mr. President. Obviously, get in 15 minutes ahead of when you want to actually drink it.

And get ready to hear the musical stylings of Monica. Enjoy. That song that we come. Maybe no. Bob, I bring us in an episode. Is there anything we need to tell people before we go? Dave and I just want to apologize for Matt and his presence and existence. Oh, for Matt, not to Matt.

No, four. We apologize to the listeners that he exists. Oh, my God. It irks us as well, but there's not much we can do about it. I'm sorry, I didn't realize what was that bad. Thank you so much for joining us. If you want to find the show on social media, it's do go on pause. He's looking all sad, and now I got the giggles.

This might be my last appearance But it's been really nice Being here on the show, I guess We're literally about to record another episode Immediately after this. Well, will I be on it? We'll find out next week. We'll find out.

I think you will be. So if you want to find us on social media, it's do you go on pod, do you go on podcast on TikTok. Our website is dogo on pod.com. If you feel bad for me, follow me at Matt's short comedy on Instagram. If you think his little sad boy act

is a bit pathetic, unfollow him on Instagram. And make sure you're following at Jess Perkins. Unfollow Jess if you think she's being a real chunky slough. Okay. And if you think that was gross, unfollow Matt. That's a call back to a couple of weeks ago for contacts to go back there. Or AJ added.

Dave, boot this baby home. We'll be back next week and I'm sure we'll all be here. But until then, thank you so much for listening. Until then, goodbye. Later. Bye. Yeah, that surprised me as well. That was.

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