Do Go On - 499 - Camille Du Gast and the 1905 Algiers to Toulon Boat Race

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

In 1905 a motor boat race was staged from Algiers to Toulon and it's fair to say things didn't go well! This week we hear about the race and the amazing life of one of the entrants, Camille du Gast! This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 07:53 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).For all our important links: https://linktr.ee/dogoonpod Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:Power Boat: The Quest for Speed Over Water by Kevin Desmond “DIMANCHE 25 MAI 1905 Naro 70 PERTE DU CANOT AUTOMOBILE CAMILLE  DANS LA COURSE ALGER-TOULON Périlleux sauvetage de M du Gast par les  vaillants marins". Sunday, May 28th, 1905 - Le Petit Journal https://guides.loc.gov/feminism-french-women-history/famous/camille-du-gasthttps://www.historicracing.com/driverDetail.cfm?driverID=3048http://lesliefield.com/races/1905_algiers_to_toulon_race_autoboats_swamped.htm#https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-algiers-toulon-motor-boat-race/ https://guides.loc.gov/feminism-french-women-history/famous/camille-du-gasthttps://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Du_Gast,_Camille http://speedqueens.blogspot.com/2010/01/camille-du-gast.html https://www.beaulieu.co.uk/news/women-in-motorsport-social-history-camille du-gast/ https://www.infinite-women.com/women/camille-du-gast/  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnocky and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart. Hello, Matt. Hello, Dave.

So good to be here. Quick question for you. How good is it to be alive? Well, let's pose that question up to me. But to our special guest this week, please welcome Raywin Pickering. Hello. I'm so happy to be alive right now. Oh, thank you so much, Ray.

It was interesting. Beautiful. What? What? Raywin's feeling a answer. Raven's feeling into Jess and like I do to As the feminist I like to create space Well before women can take up space

It needs to be created and that's what I do By talking over Yeah Take over my space I was just going to say Interesting that Dave refused to answer that question Hmm What's going on day?

Yeah Everyone alright? I never answer I never answer that question You never answer that question That's not true I think I do It's good It's good This is episode 499

Wow So last of the Old Testament so to speak. We are so close to fun. I think people one day, there'll be two tablets. Is it the King James next year? Yeah, next week. Next week we start the King James era.

It's going to be, you know, a friendly God starts next week. Dave plays God. Looking forward to you now. Famously. Yeah. You know, throwing off the shackles, thrown off the road, just being a nice guy. Yeah. What do you think?

I think would be really nice. Yeah, less of the fear that you command. Hey, fear's still good though. Oh, yeah. Still be scared. Respectful for you. Yeah, that's right. It's so good to have you on, Ray.

When first time on the show? At first time. I'm doing, but long time listener. Oh, my God. I've loved you guys since... You know, Moses came down for them and handed out the two tablet. No, I've got my definite favorite eps. The Birken Wheels, obviously.

Oh, that goes way back. Yeah. Never spent the party. No, I love to go on. Oh, that's so good. You mean you've been on other podcasts in the network, primates, and who knew it? Been on bookcheat? No.

You'll have to compete the quadrilogy now. I famously don't read. It's perfect for you. Ray, and that's what that shows all about. They read the book so we don't have to. I don't have a single reader. Oh, beautiful. I don't know.

I'll read with my ears. Always have. Even before audiobooks, which I was around for. Anyway, this is a great opportunity to hear how a listener would describe this show. Rowan, for new listeners, how would you explain how this show works? This is three friends getting together and discussing some new event that they've learned. And that new event could be an old event. Yes?

Oh, yeah, not even specifically events. That covers it, though. Less in place or thing. Yeah. I think a thing that's happened or, yeah, no, that's even not vague enough. Because you're up, it can be people. But are people going to be a thing? People have happened.

Yes. Somehow, right, when you've described it more succinctly than I think we have in quite some time. Yes, many, many hundred episodes. This week, I'm doing the report. And, yeah, so I've been learning about a topic. And we always get on the topic with a question. Rowan, are you ready? Okay.

Dave, you're ready? Unfortunately for you, Ray, when this is playing in a Dave Strong suit, where are you on geography and world capitals? Not great. Okay. You're more of a farm-based comedian. Yeah. More if it was Australian rural geography.

Yes. I'd be stuffed, actually. I would be stuffed. I still actually probably wouldn't be great. So, yes. Before we knew you were on the show today. I'd already pick the topic. You locked it in.

Otherwise, I certainly would have done alpacres or, you know, the wool industry, something like that. Yeah. Anyway, the question this week is, what is the capital of Algeria? Dave, I think we should give Rowan first crack here. Okay. Oh, no. First crack.

I don't know. Algeria. You're so close. Is it? You are so close. Actually, actually, I cannot. I actually would have said Algeria was a. city so I mean it's so alga algers alge syrup algers algas Dave I don't know that

Alcatraz I would say Algeas Algeas I think that's pretty much yeah basically yeah I've only I've actually yeah as I talked myself into it because I was like I've actually think I've seen that written down is it ALG E-Rs I E-R-R-S is it R-E-R-S is a tricky yes I literally um had to friend, the eye and the ear and that still sucks me out. I have to see it before I know which one's right. Oh, right. And yes, that's because I don't have a lot of them and I don't have to use the word very often. It's a foreign concert.

So, yes, Algiers, that is, well, I mean, it's partially where this story takes place, very partially, to be honest. Oh, right. I was excited for that because I don't know if we've covered many Algerian topics. Yeah, really, to be honest, this is, more of a continental European topic. So can you, or Dave, actually you just tell me where Algeria is. Can I ever guess?

What's the... You mean looking at it? What countries is it like next do? It's like north-east Africa? Is that right? It's like what sort of... Yeah, North East. No, it's very northern Africa.

Right. Okay. Like it's up there on the Mediterranean. Egypt? Yeah, so I think it goes Egypt and then possibly Libya, then Algeria, is that right? And it's very big. And it goes all the way down and they share a border with Morocco. Yeah, right.

So it is more northwest, if anything. Yeah, and actually also, what's the other one that's there? Libya. It's split between Morocco. It's got, shares borders with Morocco. And Tunisia as well. Tunisia, Libya, Niger, Mali, Mauritania, and Western Sahara. Is Western Sahara a country?

It's a disputed territory, yeah. And I think that's, so Algerian Morocco did not get along when I went to Morocco. They're like, you can't actually cross the border from Morocco to Algeria. Oh, really? It's closed. Wow. And they do not get along. Whoa.

I think they both have claims over Western Sahara. Right. They're not friendly there to each other. To each other anyway. So, yeah. They were lovely to you. They were so, honestly, very lovely people. Man, I'm about a joke.

If you're looking at this, I'm like, because I was picturing like Italy and stuff shifted way to the east from where it is. Sicily is almost touching, you know, Tunisia. Yeah. But I thought it was almost touching more eastern north. That's why I was thinking of it. Anyway, fun podcasting, AJ. Tie that up, please, man.

Wow, your geography is great. Yeah, those are whiz. Not too bad. African geography is pretty good. Okay. But, yeah. Europe actually is that there's so many tiny countries there that gets a bit confusing around parts. But, yeah, Africa's pretty good.

Wow. All right. So, yes, today I'm talking about the 9905 Algiers to Toulon boat race. I'm saying too long, right? It's a French city. Too long? Too long. And it's a boat race.

Yes. That's actually so exciting. We love a race here at Tuggo. It is. But. I hope it's not too long. We'll keep it, uh, just right.

It's just right. Yeah, I have not looked up any pronunciations, but there are a lot of French words. Okay. And yeah, because the main character in our story today or tonight, depending on when you're listening, is Camille de Gauss. Okay.

Who was, she was like a pioneer of a bunch of things. like she was a real trailblazer for women of the time. And yes. So it's Camille. Camille. Camille, did you say Camille the ghost? Camille du guest. D-U.

D-U. Space bar. G-A-S-T. Oh, great. Du-Gust. How would you say that? The-Gast. De-Gast.

Degast. Doug. That's what I was saying out on the farm. Cammy do-gast. Oh, here we go. Here comes Cammy. You're all right. You're going to reverse a trailer lover?

Yeah, Cammy, too big for a muddy boots. So this was suggested, the race in particular was suggested by Oz Tilson from Kowna and Braden M. Burke from Connecticut. Now, Braden actually wrote into our fat quote of question section a while ago saying you got inspired by this throwaway line. I said in my New York to Paris motor race. episode where I talked about a disastrous Algiers to Toulon motor race and he ended up doing a deep dive on it. Funnily enough, I look back and I actually mentioned a different race. No.

There's a different Algiers for too long. The one that I talked about was one from Marseilles to Algiers. Like almost the same but in reverse. Like Marseille and Toulon are close-ish. But I couldn't find, like it was a throwaway line from a Smithsonian article that I was reading about one of the characters in that episode. Right. Was it had organized this race. But anyway, it doesn't really matter.

That's by the by. Brayden has done a ton of research on it, including translating French articles, which is where most of the information came on. So I'm going to quote from Braden a bunch. But he is legit. He's a graduate assistant in the. Department of Anthropology at the University of Connecticut. Okay. So, holy shit.

So it's okay. So I think what we're doing between us, me and Braden, are creating the definitive, you know, tomb, tom. Who are you murdering? On this event. This will be the one that now becomes the one that's quoted the most. Yeah, okay, right. You are the New Smithsonian article. Yeah, well, me and Braden together.

Yeah, yeah, co-authors. And of course. You can win the Nobel Prize for Literature together. Like, whenever I quote... Between you, you have a degree. Yes. Whenever I... I do have a degree, actually.

Do you? Oh my gosh. And I use it every day. Yeah. It's huge. It's still, honestly, still in the tube that came in. I didn't go to the ceremony. It got mailed to me.

I've never taken any of the tube. Have you even checked it? Oh, you didn't even frame it? Yeah, what if it's dust? What would you do with it? What if it's probably... I honestly, I couldn't tell you where it is if I'd do celebrity or not. But I do respect it.

and I think it was a very worthwhile endeavor. Worth those 10 to thousands of dollars. Yeah. Cost of fortune, but it was, yeah, no, it definitely was worthwhile. Anyway. Good to get the tube. But I'm going to... It's an expensive tube.

Yeah. I'm going to... I mean, it's just a piece of paper. The experience, that was what was where the value was. It's led you to where you are now. Exactly right. Basically, an associate for the university. Yeah.

I made an assistant. Yeah. An assistant to the university. Anthropology department. Yeah. You probably noticed me using my criminology brain a fair bit around the place. Oh, yeah. You got to watch what you say around this guy, honestly.

That's not, that's criminology is not like, I'm not CSR. He's constantly fingerprinting me. Yeah, you are dusting. Yeah, he insists on doing this podcast with the black light on. It's really weird. That's not what criminalism. It's really weird. Mate, I will not give you a blood sample.

I'm sorry. Um, so. constantly asking for DNA. He's always listening to The Who. It's really weird. Taking my sunglasses off. Putting on. And then walking away, like, mate, come back.

Why are you in a swamp? I love a sassy line, though. That is true. Anyway, so, Braden Burke, I'm just going to, obviously, you don't do first names. If I'm quoting from an academic, I'll use surnames. So I'll refer to him as Burke from now on, which I think is Burke is so good. Was that a, you grew up in Queens then? Was Burke a name for, I remember my parents when I like talking about burks,

oh the burks up the road, like meaning like the, oh, bloody Burke, yeah, like you're an idiot. Oh, no, these clowns, these bloody burks. Bit of a burke. No. Yeah, it's not really common anymore. It wasn't common. Yeah, no.

Might have been a Victorian one. Yeah, I mean, no. Did you use Wallie? It wasn't in reference to surname, so I remember like my parents saying it's, oh, it's a busy as Burke straight out there. Yeah, that's true. And this is like the mainstststst. street of my like population of 10,000 down.

Burke Street was your main street. No. No, that's a saying. No, I know it's the same that makes sense here because. Even my parents, like, had that as a saying. I was like, it's as busy as Burke Street. I just thought maybe it was like, it worked up there as well. And you're like, I don't really get it because it's not that.

Yeah, because it is as busy as the name of this street. Up there means the opposite. It's really quiet. It's as busy as Burke Street. Ghost town. No one around. All right, so, yeah, before getting into the race, I'm going to give you a chunk of info. Really, the star of this report is Camille Dugest.

The gast. Dugast. And she was actually suggested as a topic by Beth Harvey from Scotland. So you're going to be a bit of a two-for today, Raywin. Great. Making up for lost time. Great. Scotland and Connecticut together at last.

Yeah, connecting together. Yeah. So Camille de Gus was born in either 1868 or 69 and was born into a wealthy family in Paris, France, or Paui. Because I know we're going to get a lot of French listeners in, so they'll be like Paris. What's that? Where is that? Le Pali. It is good to translate.

Yeah. Something that comes up in most accounts of her early life is that she was seen as a tomboy. but as Burke writes, her tomboyish tendencies do not appear to have been something a family cared much about squashing, as her liberal upbringing is often stated as a foundational factor in her activities later in life. Coming from a wealthy and somewhat progressive family meant that she had many opportunities that other women of her time did not, due to lack of funds or just old school, sexism. While domestic life was the fate of most of her contemporaries, the guest had her mindset on a higher octane lifestyle.

Oh, mechanical being a maid. Basically, using the turbo to clean a house real quick. So we're talking about. Turbo vacuum. She's really timid, timid, too men's tasting. I can dust his place in 38 seconds. She's been quoted as saying something along the lines of life is just too boring for women at the time and she was going to have none of that. She was, she was going to push the boundaries.

She's got all this money. Yeah, yeah. Where are there, slaving away? We don't have that. That's true. Must be nice to go fast. The topic suggested Beth lists some of the pursuits, which we'll talk about briefly and does include motor racing, being a motor racing pioneer, but also hot air balloonist, parachute, jump off, fencer, tobogonist, skier and shooter. Some of the issue was like at the forefront of as well. Wow. Hot air balloons really don't go very fast.

Oh, high upton. Like, they really famously go very slow and it's quite a relaxing ride. You drop a few sand bags. Oh, it doesn't look like it, but you're going up. Look at you slowly rise. But back then, no one's rising at all. So that seems fast. And it's sort of like anything that is, you know, it's like it's dangerous because they haven't

really figured things out. Yeah, that's right. To the forefront. When was ballooning coming? Dave knows a lot about ballooning. It's a French thing. That was the Mongolia brothers. What's that?

18, I'd guess 1860s, this guess. 1783. What I said. A hundred years different. Well, hey, when you're rounding up to 100. That was. But you wrote, the Mongolia brothers. Joseph Michael and Jacques

Etienne? Beautiful. Is that right? Beautiful. Etienne? Uh, we. Uh. So, Burke writes that while specific details of her formal education

remains sparse in historical records, it is evident that she received education in the arts, becoming an accomplished concert pianist, and singing alongside her sporting endeavors. She was just like one of those, do a bit of everything. The 1881 census lists three. live-in tutors, which is obviously a money thing. Live-in teachers.

Three of them? That's crazy. How big is your house have to be? They have three rooms for teachers. They each have a wing. Wow. And so they all specialize in different things. One in mathematics, one in equestrianism, and one in musical theory.

So, yeah. She was just sort of brought up to be a... I'm sure they could just live down the street and come in for their two-hour session a day and then go to live... They have to live in that house. In case... She's got a musical question. Sorry, two by two.

She's on horseback. Sorry. Playing violent on horseback. So, yeah, it sounds like her parents only started to worry about what they described as a, quote, masculine proclivities when she started risking injury to herself. Doing maths like a boy. She's, a lot of thousand boston blue. What is he said? I don't spend any more time on it.

I don't spend any more time on it. Because every day, is it every day? Yeah. A man is torn apart by a crocodile and firing off Queensland. It's the best. But yeah, so there was one incident on record when she was 14 where she climbed the family's mansions' 25-meter facade. Whoa. Pretty high.

That's very high facade. Yeah, imagine me a 25-meter tall house. Yeah. That's pretty good. But she climbed it like out. It's nearly three stories, right? How many stories? That's more, isn't it?

25 metres, did I say? Yeah. Yeah, normal ceiling is, like, now is, oh, that's true. It depends on the ceiling. But in Australia, there has to be at least 2.4 meters, but back then the ceilings would have been higher. Look at you knowing how high. So maybe it's like three.

I'll lose 2.4. Well, I used to work in air conditioning. We have to know about stuff like this. Had a tape measure all the time. Did you do the thing with the tape measure where you put it on the ground and then sort of push it up against the wall. First time I saw someone do that, I was like, that is so impressive.

You barred right up. I was like, I'm going to need a minute. That tape is not the only thing rigid around here. Burke writes this incident, her scarring at 25 metre facade, but you're right, it could be three stories if they're like, you know, eight meter type of silly. Yeah, probably if they've got eight ballrooms

or three ballrooms stacked on top of each other. Like, I kind of wouldn't be surprised. picturing like French mansions of the 1800s. Probably did have ridiculous. I'm imagining where Madeline lives. Ah, we, we. Yes. We la to a wet.

I'm sure there was at least 12 orphans in that facade. Livian orphans? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we got living orphans here. Pretty good. So, yeah, Burk rides of the incident saying it was documented in a police report and it resulted in her confinement to the chateau. the Voile Penile Estate,

where Gamekeeper logs show she practiced daily pistol shooting. And apparently over the next few years, she got really good at it. At 50 metres range, by the age of 17, she was achieving 93% accuracy. Wow. She's a bit of a dead-eyed dick, so to speak. Is that a saying?

Is that how you say it? That's what they call sharp shooting footballers, kicking for gold. A dead-eye dick. I've never heard that one. It's a real dead-eye dick. Oh, my God. Yeah, I don't think that's a thing.

Dead-eye Dick. But is there a famous dead-eyed dick that they're referring to in the footy world? Is there a famously... Famously dead-eyed dick. Real lazy-eyed dick. That's it. The origin of the name dead-eyed dick is not clearly established, but at least one person who answered to the name was a Chicago man who was a safecracker and robber.

Who answered to the name. I love it. Hey, dead-eyed dick, one guy. I turn around. Yeah? Huh? So it's like, it sounds like it's an old American term, I think. There you go.

Wow. I've never heard of it. But that's great that she was. And do you think it applies in this case? She's a good shot. Yeah. That's a dead idea. She's a dead idea, I think.

Ray, when I'm as old as the wind, you got to remember. So I know a lot more stuff. I mean, I'm looking at your face. Yeah, you don't need to remind me how old you are. Yeah. One more gust of wind and this all for sun. facade falls apart. Of her musical exploits,

Burke writes, Conservatoire de Paris, archives confirm her 1886 admission to Louis Diemmer's piano master class, where she premiered Cecil Cheméard Le Silvins at the Soliovo in 1889. The surviving program notes her performance wearing a revolutionary split skirt design

that allowed pedal work without compromising modesty. Pretty good. Society columns of the time describe her vocal debut as a Rothschild Salon performing Gunnids Ave Maria with an impressive three-octive range. So do you say that some of these articles were translated to English? It doesn't feel like a lot of them were. Yeah, I'm like, I feel like if I have a crack at like maybe 100 French words and names this episode, I'll stumble on one of them. Yeah.

And I know we got some French listeners and French-speaking listeners. Can you let me know if I nail one word? Yeah. Because obviously, you know. I mean, it's not 93% accuracy. Yeah. I'm no dead-o-deck. Dead-I-dick.

A dead-a-dick. Dic. D-Dick. Man, you remember that? There was like a production company at the end of some shows. Yeah. Deek. Deek.

Man, that got a laugh in our house. D-D-D-D-Eek. That and a sit-o-bo-sit. Yeah, good dog. That's a classic. Burke continues, this combination of artistic and athletic prowess was highly unusual for women of her time and social class who were generally steered towards softer and more domestic pursuits.

Vacuuming. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But that was at the forefront of cleaning back then. You know, these are early, these are dangerous vacuums to use. Oh, yeah. It worked at the technology. Yeah, you're wishing your life every time you turn it on.

They were built with asbestos and they were coal-powered. We had to shovel coal in the back of them. That's why the asbestos was so good. We usually kept the flames from the user. Usually. Usually. Obviously, sometimes a seal. A couple got through.

Yeah, you know. But that's all right. That's good stuff. As she grew up physically, Camille developed, I should say this is still Burke's academic words here. As she grew up physically, Camille developed into a striking woman, described by contemporaries as, quote, the most beautiful woman in Paris.

Wow. They sound angry at that. Green-ard and fair-haired with a shapely corsetted figure complemented by a vibrant personality featuring a, quote, wicked sense of humor and irresistible smile. Whoa. And, you know, like, beauty stands, everything change, of course. And I don't think, you know, she just looks like a normal person from the olden days.

My gosh. Yeah. That's not comfortable. And sometimes I'm also like, is this, how much of this writing is because they're rich and you sort of pay the people to be more favourable? Or is that just, that was what a beautiful person looked like back then? I just don't think anyone was attractive back then. Well, you would know.

Yeah, I was there. Yeah. There was a much more level playing field though back then, wasn't it? Well, yeah, it was a great time for me. Because people thought like I was hot back then Really? Yeah Kind of anyone was

Wow Yeah Okay, yeah The standards were really low Yeah, yeah If anyone described anyone back then Yeah That's what I found on this show

Like when I always look at the photos He was so handsome He'd stop any saloon dead in its tracks And you look him up You're like This guy? Really? This balding guy?

Yeah Wow, it must have been some sort of We just don't describe anyone With that kind of like Beauty and you want toui. No. Because it's not their value they used to. Back then, that's all they cared about.

Which is ironic because they were so ugly. If someone from back then was alive now, they'd die of how attractive people are now. I'm going to kill them. I'm sure it's not standards changing and stuff like that. No. No. Hot is hot. Oh, no.

Yeah, hot is hot. Bad is bad. It's Huey Lewis said. A little poet. Yeah, but that Ray has pointed out that that corset does look extremely uncomfortable. It looks so uncomfortable. Like it's sort of contorting her body into. Yeah.

No, I think she's naturally like a 120, 3, 120 figure. I don't know what the numbers are meant to be, but that's pretty dramatic. Okay. Is it not? Sounds pretty consistent to me. Yeah. It sounds like a square. You two of the same number.

No, you didn't hear the three. That's the worst. 123, 120. All right. It sounds like you're saying 123. Yeah. You're saying 120, comma, three. Three.

Well, I mean, I'll accept that from the list. but you're watching me go 123, 120. How are you not? You move very fast, though. 123, 123. 1020. AJ added that out, please. Well, A.J.

could just edit in some pauses so we'd know what you're saying. Yeah. 120. You know, when three, when everyone misunderstands and you're still going, no, I'm right. Yeah. I'm communicating very well. Listen. Listen again, okay.

Hey, 123, 120. 123, 120. Anyway, okay. That makes more sense that you didn't know what I was talking about now, now that I realize you go is a bit slow. Yeah, please slow it down for us, particularly when you're speaking French. At the age of 22, she hooked up with a fella named Jules Crespin,

which is, I think, a fantastic name. Wow. Ches Crespen. Beautiful. Sources disagree as to whether they were married at that point or lived in sin for the following four years before marrying. But either way, they did end up getting married. How do you disagree?

Like, well, I wasn't invited. So they surely didn't get married. I think. I would have known about it. I would have known. I would have gone to a toaster. Yeah, I think I would have been invited to the wedding. I would know.

Yeah, I can't find the paperwork, which I mean, invitation. And then other people are like, well, I definitely gave him a toaster. So why did I do that? Look, I've got a photo of me here. Here's me at the Bucks party. So, yeah, obviously, they got, they did that way ahead. They weren't married for four or five years. Anyway, so that's only vaguely relevant.

People aren't sure. Because I laid a little call ahead, but that might be relevant. Call forward. Yeah. Anyway, either way, Burke writes that it is notable that throughout her marriage and subsequent sporting career, Camille insisted on using her maiden name rather than her husbands, despite the conventions of the time. But continues, this deliberate choice stem from her desire to avoid any suggestion that her daring exploits were merely publicity stunts designed to promote her husband's department store business.

Like, I'm not, this is, I'm doing this for the, yeah, this is. For the thrill, not for the Harvey Norman. Wow. I'm right in this hot air balloon as fast as I can, the cellar couch. I'm on the David Jones Daredevil. Yeah. Yeah, the husbands would be like, it would be great if you did do it for the family business. Yeah.

Yeah. Honestly, just throw it in to conversation. We're a staff t-shirt or something. You're doing it. Wear our lanyards. You get the 5% discount. Yeah, it's worth it. Yeah, so he, Crespin was a wealthy department store, Air, who served as manager and major

shareholder of Dufiel, one of Paris's largest retail establishments. Camille was evidently hands-on with the running of the store as ledgers reveal her influence in introducing electric lighting systems and pneumatic cash carriers by 1892 boosting annual profits by 37% getting like robotic stuff happening then yeah she can do it all sort of supercharging everything yeah yeah everything needs an engine yeah yeah cash register engine on wheels yeah put a longer in it she had the donk under this cash register How many son of those are cashers? Oh my God.

There's your change. The receipt's just spitting out so cute. Coins fly out, injury people. It's just rolling around the floor on a segue. Hello, can I help you? No. Dr. Barman saw a just fall of smoke. You can't see across the aisle.

Oh, don't breathe in. There's asbestos everywhere. Just watch out. Cresbyn supported Camille's choices, even though, you know, she's breaking gender norms at the time. Whoa. So in a lot of ways, I think he's the hero of this piece. According to Burke.

Real feminist there. He even shared in Camille's burgeoning passion for aeronautics. Cresbyn was a balloonist himself and was often accompanied by Camille on expeditions, which would have been considered highly unusual for both men and women of the period. Ah, fun fact, to hot air balloons, I believe, debuted in about 1783. Oh, interesting. Wow. Okay, I would have guessed 1870.

Would you be wrong by almost 100 years? Wow. And you would look like a fool. That's actually a number anagram of the year the St. Kilda Football Club was formed in 1873. No. Is there a word for number anagram? I reckon there must be.

It probably is. Anyway, Burke goes on. The couple's shared passion materialised through their own customized balloon, Le Csie Blanc, who's 1899. I know Blanc, isn't that white? That's white. Yeah. And what is L'Euze?

I understood your French, Matt. What's the other word? What's the other word? Oh, Dave does a bit of French. Loiso. Loiso. Loiseau. I don't know.

Losser. Losser. I don't know what that means, though. But it's capitalised. The L-A-Postroby, what would that be? Is that like L'Oriel Paris? Yeah, I was going to say. L'Ori-Blon.

Is that of Blanc? Of O'Oreel? Is that what that means? Oh. But yeah, so... Oh, it means bird. Oh, white bird. There you go.

The white bird is the L... So what does the L, yeah, for Loria, like the L apostrophe? Oh, it's just that. Yeah, sorry, I don't know what you're saying. Yeah, that's that. The white bird. Yeah, anyway, they flew the white bird in 1893. And flight documents show that it was a record-breaking 14-hour journey from Paris to Bremen in Germany.

Oh, 14 hours? You could watch a few movies. Yeah. And now we're going fast. For one? What about the fugitive two? For two? Yeah, up.

Up? That'll be a great one in a hot air balloon. Yeah. That one's more relevant. Is there a hot air balloon in the fugitive? No. It's beautiful to see your brain in action now. Yeah, it's beautiful to see me just give up and say no.

I like it. Burke continues. Camille's love of sports and daring was not bound to her husband, of course. Camille had already began establishing herself as a daring sportswoman by 1895, when she became the first woman to complete a parachute jump, leaping from a hot air balloon from the height of 2,000 feet. Whoa. Her parachute proudly displayed the logo of her husband's department store,

Shefail. I wonder if he snuck that on. Then Burke said. He said, so much for not wanting to be associated with his store. Oh, good one. He goes on to say, Parachutes have been around in some form or another since the 1400s and likely go back much further,

but they only became common in the early 1900s and 1910s as they were made more compact and easily worn on the back. In 1895, sadly Crespin died of Peritonitis at the age of 27, is a member of the 27 Club? Oh, there you go. One of the original members. He packed a lot in. Owned a department store.

Yeah, inherited one. Oh, okay. I think a lot of it was sort of... Given to him. The family. Silver platter. He was an air. He was an air. No wonder he loved hot air balloonies.

Yeah. And peritonitis? What's that one? I looked it up. It was like redness of the something. But it's nothing to do with the daredevil stuff caught up. No, I think it's unfortunately got ill. Yeah.

I think it's just an infection in your stomach. Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah. And do you know that from animals? Chickens get egg yolk ferretanitis. The more you know. So, yeah, you know. A redness and swelling or inflammation of the lining of your belly or abdomen.

And it just depends. It can be, depending on what's causing it or whatever, I think it can be fatal or not. And whether it's treated, I guess. Do they know what's causing it? No, he's dead. Couldn't pass the egg. But before. Before he died, they did pass an egg, so to speak.

They had a daughter named Diane. Oh, oh. Wow, and Diane Hatch. Diane Hrespen. Yeah, Diane Crespen's a real eggish sounding name as well. Don't you reckon? Crespen? It doesn't have an E or a G or a G.

Hmm. I don't know. Oh, wait, Crespen obviously does have an E. Got an E. Yeah, I don't know. There's someone about Crespin. It just sounds eggish to me, like a shells crispy, I guess. Crespin.

Don't think that would be a nice name for an egg? A beautiful name for an egg. I call my egg Crespen. That's all I was saying. For a boy egg or a girl egg? That's all I was saying. Crespen. Really well said as well.

Crespen's death meant Camille inherited his fortune as well, and she's already got her own one that she inherited from her folks. As Burke writes, she was now managing a substantial business portfolio, including coal mines and textile factories, evidenced by her handwritten margin notes in board meeting papers. So she's there. She's active in the board meetings. She's in the mine.

Yeah, I imagine. Just going, oh, yes, yes, yes. I know she's French, but in my head she talks like our queen, Elizabeth the second. In my mind, it's the first. I don't, I actually... But she's French. I'm one of a growing number who don't acknowledge Elizabeth 1. So our Elizabeth 2 is...

Now Elizabeth 1. Elizabeth 1 in your mind. Yeah. And long may she reigns. Well, she's Elizabeth number one for you. Yes. The only one. Yes. That's right.

Just Elizabeth. Yeah. Yeah. And the queen mother, not even worth mentioning. I mean, she gave us Elizabeth. Yeah. So, you know, I'll thank her for that. Is the Queen Mother Elizabeth 2 or Elizabeth 3, though?

Queen Mother, no, no, no. She did, yeah. There's only one. Okay. That can be only one. I haven't seen that movie series, but I assume it's about Elizabeth. Elizabeth. But it's about Sean Connery or something?

Is there a movie series about it that can be only one? Or am I thinking of the Lord of the Rings? I think of the Lord of the Rings, I believe. Okay. Which Sean Connery? Famously turned out. Play Dumbledore. Hunt for Red October?

Submarines. Submarines. There can only be one submarines. Lizzie was famously. The hot air balloons of the ocean. A bit of work for age that to do this week. I'd love to know how your mind works. People reckon that you are better than most at...

Deciphering. Yeah. What's in your head? I mean, even you are able to access deciphering for me there. That is the word that I was reaching for. Okay, a podcast editor, AJ here. I can also decipher Matt. He is most likely referring to the film Highlander,

which does feature Sean Connery and the line there can be only one. But Sean Connery doesn't say it. On top of this, neither Queen Elizabeth is mentioned in any of the films in the series, though it does take place technically during the first Elizabeth's reign. Raywin is also right about Sean Connery being in The Hunt for Red October, which, by sheer coincidence, is a film I watched two days ago, and I'm going to be discussing it on my podcast. I'll pop shit next week if you want to tune into...

Anyway, her husband's dead. That's sad. Dead at 27. But she's extremely rich now. She was already very rich. Now she's like phenomenally rich. It's two fortunes together. And all these more extra responsibilities and that sort of stuff.

Did that slow her down in terms of her need for speed? No, it did not. Whoa. Second engine. Put it in the car. Her need for speed, thrills and spills. If anything, it got even bigger. Whoa.

Her hunger grew. Whoa. And she fed that hunger with petrol. Cool. It is great to see your mind work. As Burke writes, following her husband's sudden death, Camille embarked on increasingly ambitious adventures that would have been considered extraordinary,

even for men of her time. Even for men. I don't know if you can even imagine that. Wow. Between 1895 and 901, she traveled extensively, taking up mountaineering and notably crossing Morocco on horseback, often traveling alone through potentially volatile regions. Throughout this period, Camille continued to develop her skills

in an astonishingly diverse range of sports and activities. She became an accomplished fencer, skier, rifle and pistol shooter and horse trainer while maintaining her artistic pursuits as a concert pianist and singer. Wow, that's a lot. That's hard to lug a full grand piano on horseback across the Moroccan desert, but she did it. She had a baby grand. Yeah, she invented the baby grand. She honestly was hogging it.

Wasn't she like skills and pursuits? Yeah, it makes you feel really. A lot of them, though, to be fair, were just self-defense. Yeah, yeah. There was a lot of shooting and fencing. On horseback. I want to know how to look after myself. Yes.

I think that makes a lot of sense. Get away in a hot air balloons. Oh, yeah. Yeah, all of it. She was holding her keys between her hands, for sure. You got her through Morocco, I guess. Yeah, I don't know. Between her hands.

Between her hands. Is that what you meant? Where else would you hold your keys, mate? Between her thumbs. I wouldn't. I don't know mess with this woman. Oh, no. She sounds like a real badass.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she would have had the baby, the baby on her back? Oh, just strapped at the back. Yeah, well, the baby doesn't come up a lot. Okay. I get the feeling that maybe the baby was at home. Okay. Maybe in its own wing.

Probably had three babysitters live in, look after. Yeah. She was doing fun. The baby grows up. Their relationship's not so good. We'll mention that a bit later. Oh, okay. Yeah, Burke's was like.

Try it like, you really couldn't find much out about Diane growing up and stuff. Like, while the mum's gallivanting, the dad's dead. She was a real, real dead beat dad. Hold the beat. Hey, what am I ordering a salad or something? Hold the beat. Deadbeat, hold the. You don't like Beatrice.

What's wrong with you? No, I really love Bedtrit, actually. Hold the beat and then put it in my mouth. Now hold as a two bites. My hands are holding something else. My hands are holding a pair of keys to turn fingers. Dave, it's like you always say, can't beat a root, mate. You always say that.

What I say? Man, I love to be true. Can't beat a root around bush. Sounds sorry. It would be so inappropriate for you to apologize for any dog shit riff because, apart from anything, that's a big part of what the show is. That's the show. And you're also looking at me?

Have you heard the shit that's fallen out of my mouth so far today? You apologize to this guy? No one apologizes to me. Get some rubber-belief in yourself. Oh my God. This is making me rethink all of my. Was it, is it when you said holding your keys between your hands and I, like, was an asshole and not understanding clearly what you meant? I really just look more at Dave.

He's way more supportive of women, I don't know. I don't know. Look into those big blue eyes of his as well. Oh, there we go. Below the rims. I know above the rims. Never below. Whatever gets you through the craziness that is sitting next to much sure.

Back to Burke. In 1898, Camille expanded her sporting repertoire by learning to drive, which is obviously it's quite a new thing. Yeah, wow. Becoming only the second French woman to receive her driver's license. The first being Ande de Ruchner-Ré. The Duchess of Uses, who was also the first woman in Paris to get a speeding ticket.

Oh, same day? Yeah, I couldn't, yeah. How quickly are they given out speeding tickets? I would have thought that would have, that wouldn't have, and I actually do imagine that would have been years later probably. Yeah. Camille dove headfirst into motorsport, acquiring both a... Does it sound painful?

She's wearing a helmet. Yeah. Burke might have left off the R there. Camille drove head first. Nice. Yeah, she got both a Panhad and a Peugeot automobile. How do you say Peugeot in a Frenchy sort of way? Peugee.

Peuge. But what's the first brand in my head? Panhard. Benad. I don't know. I'm not sure that. It still exists. And potentially she inherited those from her husband.

It's unclear. Like the cars or the full business like she owns per. Yeah. This decision to embrace the new technology of automobiles would soon lead to her most significant sporting achievements and public recognition. France was at the centre of the world's automaking industry in the early 1900s, making something like half of the world's cars at the time. I think in 1903 that were at like, I read somewhere 49%. They made like seven cars. I say, yeah, exactly.

I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, impressive. Surely there's not that many guys going to work. It was why he did it do percentages back there. Let's keep a hundred cars a year. The first woman kept crashing up. Yeah, none survived. Go do fast. Come on.

So, yeah, it's unsurprising that France was also the centre of the burgeoning motor racing scene. While the industry was on her doorstep, it was still seen as the domain of men and in particular wealthy men, fat cats. It was far too dangerous a little late. Ladies. Even the wealthy ladies. Yeah. She's 50% of it.

She's wealthy at least. She's halfway there. Yeah. Yeah. Of the women. Of, you have to be a wealthy man. Oh, yes. Okay.

She's wealthy. So she's got the wealthy down. She's also at one point, half of the women in France who has a license. That's what they were saying. She is halfway there. So really, she's, yeah. To be the soul surviving. Um, Berk rides, after watching the start of the 1900 Paris Lyon race,

Paris, Lyon, I should say, Paris Lion, race, she became determined to participate in competitive motorsport herself. In June of 9-01, she ended the prestigious Paris to Berlin Trail, organized by the Automobile Club de France, becoming the only female competitor in the main event. For this grueling international race, Camille drove a 20-horsepower panhard a relatively standard road vehicle rather than a specialized racing vehicle. So she competed in the heavy car class for vehicles over 650 kegs

with the Duke of Sagan serving as her riding mechanic. It's so fun, it's like it's only rich people, so the ride on mechanics are Duke. He's not getting his hands dirty. Get a new one. We get another. This entry into a major international motor race made her the second woman. to compete at this level. Oh, she's always second.

She's a real Michael Chang of women in motorsport. Really kind of got to hurt. But this, you really established her place as one of the earliest female racing drivers in history. A real pioneer of the sport. A real Michel Mouton. We. We, we, we, we, we.

The first was likely either Baroness Helene van Zulin or and the rocking-goate de mortgant, Duchess of Uzes. That's according to Burke. In this first race, she translated it. Yes, in the first race. Yeah, I think he really, he translated so much. He just fell over that final hurdle.

And the Russian goat. What does D mean in French? The Russian goat. Oh, thank you. Well, Ray one's finishing Burke's work there. That's great. The Russian goat. And the Russian goat.

The problem is that title went so long. I forgot who they were when you started. Who are they? They were likely. It's lost to history, but one of those was likely the first woman car racer. Aw. What? So she can't even be remembered.

It's interesting, isn't it? You've just got to remember one name, boys. Boys, boys, boys. Stuff it up. Yeah, I mean, it was all sort of seen as, obviously, people aren't writing blogs about everything back then. But it was... It was also multiple races to.

Yeah, no one's really tracking it. They're not like, cars are really going to take off this next century. It would have been like, yeah, I'm going to write about the first game of Frisbee golf. They almost definitely did. I bet you there's a lot of records about it. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of law. I'm on a similar par of influence, aren't they?

The invention of the motor vehicle and the invention of Frisbee. Well, that's what I'm saying, though, at the time it was seen as. this sort of frivolous thing, but, you know, people didn't really see a big future in it in car. They didn't think it was going to take over the world. I think there's yet to be a woman play Frisbee golf as well. I reckon you'd like to step up? I would not. It's more a wealthier woman than me.

Oh, yeah. Millions of women have had opportunities and just gone, that looks silly. No, thanks. I don't want to do it either Frisbee or goal. Yeah. Dumb. I played. bit of fun.

Did you? Yeah, but like you know, Rob Braslin? Wow. Tazzy comic. He's got his own, he's got his own discs. He was up for a couple of months for work and he goes, want to go throw off you? Hey, Matt, let's chuck the disc in the around. What are we talking about?

But it's good fun. I mean, it's just like any of those things. It's mainly about the chat and just hanging out. A bit of a walk. It's fun. I sucked at it, though. It's just how to get men through depression, really. Yeah.

You got to have an activity. Yeah, yeah. Then we can talk about things. How I'm feeling. Oh, I mean, we didn't do that. Oh, okay. And he felt worse afterwards because he was so bad at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Luca Miler played as well, and he picked it up straight away. Really? Rob's already, I mean, he's bringing his own discs around. Yeah. He travelled with them, obviously, so. Whoa, you can get them through the airport security. Well, yeah. I just let him in.

Well, I imagine they would have had to have been stowed. Yeah. They're not carry on. You can't carry on a metal one zina warrior princess style. Oh, no. You could chop off the pilot's head with that thing. Dangerous. Can't take now scissors.

Cannot take a disc. It's on the blift of items. Do you have any of the following in your luggage? You've seen that clip with, I think it's like Ridge from Bold and the Beautiful or one of those shows. And it's a clip of him in a movie, this low budget movie, where it's all about frisbee culture. Yes. And he switches the frisies on point to one with blades all over and he chops a

guy's head off by flinging it at him. I have seen that. He's a... He's just chop, just decapitate someone. Whoa. You know when you assume your algorithms, everyone's algorithm?

Yeah, I'm not getting that. I've seen that clip so many times. I have seen it too. Really? I think it might even be the original ridge. The ridgy ridge. Oh, really didy ridge. Yeah.

Wow. You got replaced. Really? Ridge two. Just like the flight center. The regening. Oh, I miss it. What happened to the original flight center?

Oh, well, I worked, I don't know if this is true, of course, but I, at, when I worked at the supermarket, a guy, uh, knew him, he was his neighbor or something and he said that he, he thought he, he had flat center over a barrel. So he negotiated real hard and they just replaced him instead. Oh, really? You're like, no, like, can we go back to that last offer again? I will accept it after all. Please. Oh, my God, three people have played Ridge. What?

I can only think of one Ridge. Yeah, I think you have the original Ron Moss. Yeah, Ron Moss, yeah. And then there's Lane Davies did it. Oh, maybe, it says this is on the Wiki page, maybe just in 19992. What's Wiki page? This is, sorry, the Bold and the Beautiful. I think it's similar to WikiFey.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like a Wiki for the rest of the body. Yeah. The rest of the body being bold and beautiful. Yeah. Wiki Ridge. Oh.

Now it's displayed by Thorsten. Thorsten K. His name is Thorsten? Thorsten. Thorsten K. Wow. Oh my God. Can't believe it.

A third ridge? It's a slippery slope from here. Anyway, so she's entered a race and she finished 33rd overall and 12th in the heavy car category, maybe even 11th. How many were in a lot? It's over 100, I think. Oh, that's great. That's good. That's every car in Europe.

Most people didn't realize they were part of a race. They were just driving to work. Burke writes, Camille's racing career gained momentum between 9-01 and 904, during which she participated in several major races. Her participation was notable not only for breaking gender barriers, but for her approach to racing. She maintained traditional feminine dress standards, even while engaging in these dangerous competitions, reportedly even wearing a corset during some of the corset. The most perilous race of the time. I think I've got a photo.

Oh, my gosh. It's funny, like, it just looks like posh people going out for a picnic. Yeah. Yeah. But there's a number on the side of the car as well. Yeah. Wow. I remember, I think in one of your descriptions, you said that she notably wore a like a side split skirt.

But so she's still just wearing, like, she's not even wearing pants. Yeah. Isn't amazing. Wow. Burke says this choice may have represented a strategic compromise, allowing her to challenge gender norms in one domain. while maintaining certain expected standards of femininity. So she's like, maybe she's just making a compromise. Look, I know you don't think I should race cars, but I'm not going to wear pants.

Yeah. I won't go silly. Yeah. Because I would make it. My car's still going to be the tidiest car. Yeah. Yeah, so career is really gaining momentum. She's been, she's sort of seen as a bit of a rising star, which is interesting in itself.

You know, it's male dominated, but it seems like she's, she's relatively accepted in the racing community, even if the broader society's like, what is she up to? She's doing behind that wheel. But these racing people were fine with it. Seems like it. I mean. Wow. Progressives in there.

Yeah. Or was it just, she was incredibly rich. So. Yeah. And a babe. Pretty easy on the eye, apparently. That's green eyes, that smile. As I've heard, 103 and 100.

What are the other, what are the size, like those numbers? I might vaguely, three is obviously, was meant to be a comically small waist, but they're used to be thinking people would say like 72, 42, 72. That's also crazy, I think. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Classic. What standard? Hourglass measurements.

How you. would always refer to people as their shoulder, their waist, their hips. No. Oh, 36, 24, 36. So, 72 is quite wide. A hundred. Imagine a hundred, like a meter. 123.

Because there's an inch is. According to Hawaii. You thought that was a beautiful woman. Well, this. Over a meter. What's your... Shoulder to shoulder. You don't want to be able to hug this one.

It was meant to be a comical exaggeration. Yeah, comical. You sound like an idiotic. That was the floor. Your dream woman. Oh my God. Oh my gosh. Really unattainable.

Why do you put women on a pedestal like that? Very good pedestal. They'll topple over otherwise. The, yeah, Hawaiianvane.com says 36, 24, 36. Hawaiian vein. That's awful. With an E as well It's not the home of vanity in Hawaii

So I don't know what they do It's the vein and skin center of Hawaii Oh Oh Do they know what they're talking about? It says for a true hourglass figure The breasts and hips Should be almost equal in circumference

It's perfect measurements Often cited as 36 2436 Petit women Can have this curvaceous shape as well But on a small scale Yeah it's funny that Never a larger scale Uh-uh

Mammot on the lips, ladies, moment on the lips. Soon you'll be 120 in the hips. Yeah, it is like I can't, I think that was just an old-fashioned. I'm thinking of like, you know, like black and white movies here in like, you know, Clark Gable saying that to Marilyn Monroe or some shit. But only not them. It would be people that you haven't heard of. Right.

Midday movie. Clark Gable's dad. Ridge. Maryland Monroe's auntie. So anyway, yes, her career is gaining momentum, doing great. She's loving it, having a good time. So has she won anything yet, though? Hasn't won anything.

No. But she's just, she's into it. Competing. She's competing, yeah. But still, she's only 33rd or something, you said. Yeah. Yeah. So she's just having fun.

Yeah. And I don't know to you second is just first loser. So she's 30 second loser. Yeah. But yeah, anyway, the French government had other ideas. They put a stop to this. They banned women from competing in motorsports. Oh, wow.

For motor racing. Why? Well, the reason. Everyone? Anyone else? Too dangerous. And as the feminists of the podcast, I have to agree with this decision. Women are just too valuable to risk.

In such a frivolous pursuit. Leave that to the men. To the men. disposable. It's such a strange thing. Too dangerous. Yeah. Other boys can do it.

Yeah. It's almost as if there was a bit of... We've moved past that. Yeah. I did hear, like, five years ago I heard someone, I won't name them, an older person. They were like, I don't know about the AFLW. I'm just white, like, just, you know, women had built differently. The tackling and stuff, I'm like, what are you talking about?

They've taken, like, everyone's choosing to play. Yeah. I mean, if you're going to think, really, no one should be doing. Yeah, no one really should do it. But like, you know, guys. Oh, you're hearing people talk about like women boxes sometimes. Like, yeah, they shouldn't. But either should, anyone.

No one should be getting punched in their hair. No, yeah, not for our entertainment. Only men should have CTA. Yeah. Um, just, you know. Yeah, not realize it. Yeah. You're so close to sort of getting a point, but it's a weird, it's a weird thing you've come to.

Weird to draw the line there. Yeah. So while she wasn't able to race anymore, at least what it sounds like. At least no woman could. Yeah, yeah. But it sounds like she was able to go on a few of the lower profile ones, but the high profile big races that she was really into, that were the ones that was clear you couldn't be in it.

Weird for the government, too, to step in. Like, surely the racing body could, like, decide for themselves. But no, it's the prime minister. Like, no. Yeah. No. No. No in French, though?

No. No. No, no, no. So, she wasn't able to race anymore, at least in the higher profile events, but she did earn a position as the first and apparently only woman official of the automobile club de France, demonstrating that despite the external disrespect coming from the government, Inside the male dominated industry, she was held in high regard seemingly. That's cool.

Yeah, so they thought she was good enough for the club. Yeah. You know, yeah, the individuals in the racing community sound nice, honestly. Yeah. Not enough people are talking about them. Yeah. I think we're talking too much about this woman. And we need to be talking about the men involved.

Who are in this club? Who are the men around? You may grab points, Rowan. So she's not able to be involved in those high profile races, but she's got like a bored spot kind of. And instead of just retiring from competing altogether, she just pivoted again. She seems like even if they let her keep racing,

she probably would have moved on to something else for too long. She's always bouncing around different things. As Burke writes, rather than abandoning competition altogether, Camille simply transferred her competitive spirit to motor boat racing. They wouldn't let her run. race on the land, she would race on the water. The car of the sea, I've heard.

In international waters too, no rules out there. Yeah, that's right. It is weird that I didn't call them motor car boats. Water cars. Was it because boats were from around before cars? I don't know. Ships, yeah. I'll get back onto that soon, but I should mention whilst acting as a motorsport pioneer,

She continued with her business interests, and on top of that was involved in diplomatic work and political activism. Bloody, yeah. We're talking before, like, an overachiever. Bloody hell. She's like all the businesses. She's an activist. She's a diplomat. She's in the minds.

She's in the minds. She's segueing around the department store. She's got, it feels like she's got to be more, you know, what a get master of none, jack of all trades kind of thing? How can you be good at so many things? I say, you can't. Yeah. I feel like Diane might say. I know.

Maybe a couple things just to drop the ball on. Being present. Yeah. So, yeah, I'll talk a bit about this. Well, Burke will. He writes, The sensational quality of her life and accomplishments made her a natural subject

for women's magazines and journals of the era. And she shrewdly used this publicity to bring awareness to causes she cared about. passionately. During this period, Camille was also entangled in a Parisian scandal known as La femmee-o-mask. What does that mean, Dave? First, you've got to figure out what words I was saying. Female mask, are you saying that? Yeah, I don't know what mask, M-A-S-Q-U-E. This is when she was maliciously, but incorrectly identified as the nude model in a notorious painting by Omri Gouvet. This salacious accusation resulted in three-quarters. This salacious accusation resulted in three-quarters.

cases and garnered some negative international media attention. It does mean mask. There you go. Dave, you're all over it. Despite these challenges, she maintained her public. So the female mask was the name of this nude picture that everyone was like, Camille, that's you. Yeah.

So she was obviously wearing the model where mask on. And that's why they can't prove that it is her or not her. Yeah. Because it's just like a naked lady with a mask. Right. Maybe. Yeah. That makes sense to me.

Wow. But yeah, she maintained her active public life and growing involvement in humanitarian causes. Sadly, this scanner wasn't the only negative experience she had at the time, as Burke writes. By the early 1900s, Camille's daughter, Diane, Cresbyn, was estranged from her mother. Historical records are unclear as to why. though if Camille and Crespin had her out of wedlock, assuming that's still in that four year gap, then potentially this would have left her out of the inheritance

of Cresbyn and Camille's fortune. Which is that? But if they weren't married, how did Camille get Cresbyn's money? Well, they got married probably four years later. Okay. But also like, I mean, was it different back then? So they weren't married at some point. Yes.

But no one knows the date. Yeah. When they were born, they weren't married. get them out. Yeah, it's really interesting. So they had the marriage certificate, they just could not figure out what date was on there. Yeah, well, this is something you come across with history.

There are often competing views. Well, they just people will, you know, records, you know, there might be a little smudge on the page. It could be, it could be anything. If only our mate Bradenberg was in the room with us right now. He'd know. He'd know. He was there.

He's yelling at his iPod right now. We can post this during the week if we don't mind putting this on her, but that's the feminine mask. Oh, yeah. So it is a lady who is a... It is a lady. Nude, but wearing a mask. So that's why I guess people would say, that's her.

And she'd say, that's not me. That's so funny. And it's a painting. You can paint anyone. That's so funny. If that is me, yeah, they could have just been like this imagination. Yeah.

And if they're based on me, that's their mind. Yeah. I didn't pose for anything. Do you find it interesting that, like, apparently she is out of the inheritance because potential was born out of wedlock. Surely Camille could say, oh, no, I'll still, I choose who I'll leave the stuff too. Oh, yeah, of course. Sorry, no, rules are rules.

Mom, you can just put my name on the thing. Yep, I'm afraid not out of my hands. Yeah, gosh, if only I had, you know. access to a pen, but I don't. So sorry. It is all going to my equestrian teacher. The rules are rules. Burke writes that according to accounts, Diane began attempting to extort money from her mother,

leveraging inheritance disputes as a means to gain access to her wealth. Legal battles over family assets further strained their relationship with Camille embroiled in court cases against other family members during this period. I'll get in more of this later, but we're really got to get into this. motorboat racing. What are we in hour in yet? I haven't mentioned the motorboat race. Fantastic.

Fair Christ's the first documented yacht race was held in 1661 in England. Motorboat racing is much younger as a sport, though, obviously. Oh. Originating. Well, yeah. She put the motor on. That's right. During the early 1900s is when it kicked off.

As technological advancements in internal combustion engines made powered watercraft possible. The sport quickly gained popularity among wealthy enthusiasts like Camille, who sought to transfer the thrill of land-based automobile racing to the open waters. In 1902, the British Marine Motoring Association was formed, officially organising motorboat racing as a competitive sport. In 2003, France held its first major motorboat races. In 1903, the Ham'sworth Trophy was established, which was an international boat racing competition held at Queenstown Harbour. are in Ireland, and this is considered the first motorboat race of significant importance. Like ever?

Yeah. Sorry, just France. No, no, ever. I was in Ireland, so. Whoa. Yeah. Which is, Dave, sorry, as a joke. Is Ireland in France?

I'm not good with Europe. I told you that. Okay, great. We won't know. Okay, we'll never know. I mean, I said it's not. It's its own country. Agreed to disagree?

I agree to ignore your opinion. So yes, 905 comes around. Finally, it's time to talk about the Algiers to Toulon motor race. It's such a long distance when it's only been invented a couple years before. Suddenly the scale has obviously exploded. Yeah, what's your guess at how successful this will be? I reckon everyone will make it. Yeah, everyone will make it.

Well, how long is it, Algiers to too long? Well, it's not long enough if that's me. You don't have those information handy? I mean, I do, but further down there. I mean, I had no idea. Oh, okay. Sorry. Jeez.

Sorry. If you just do measure distance on Google Maps, obviously, you know, it's not necessarily a straight line that they're traveling in. About 750 kilometers. Okay. That is. Right. The Google AI was a fair way off that.

It said 437. Oh, right. But like I said, that's straight line. So possibly. even further. So yeah, while. Wow. Yeah, that is.

So what a percentage do you reckon will make it to the finish line? Hmm. Are they all dead-eyed dicks? Shooting. As far as I know, there's only one dead-eyed dick. Okay. But there's more than one entrant? Yes.

Okay. Otherwise, my 100% rating is looking a little silly now. Um, hmm, at least half. Surely half would get it. I reckon 50%. All right, 50%. Well, let's see. We'll check in with you again later.

All right. I'm 100. Ray 1st in 50. Let's find out. Well, how many people did it? I think there were only, I think there were like seven entrants, seven boats. Oh, okay. I think that's right.

We'll get to that soon. So, yeah, flashback to episode 358. another classic big race episode. That was the New York to Paris motor race. This is the episode that sparked Bradenberg's interest in this story. In that episode, I quoted Karen Abbott, writing for the Smithsonian saying that, quote, a man named Borsier-Sons-Chefrey once organized a motorboat race from Marseille to Alger that resulted in every single boat sinking.

Interestingly, this man, St. Schofre was also an entrant in the race we're talking about today. So he's got good form. Don't worry. The early races were tough. And his boat in this race was the Malgertoot. David roughly translates apparently to despite everything. Malgatut. Malgatut.

His boat was notable for its large size and unique design, measuring 65 feet in length with an 11-foot beam or width. of the race, Burke writes, it was organized by the Paris newspaper, Le Matin, Le maiteau. Was I mean the morning? The matter. What is it mean? That's the morning. Is M-A-T-I-N?

Yes. And how do you pronounce that? Le maton. Le maton. So that means the morning. Yeah, that's a morning newspaper. Finally not. Wasn't there two words you said?

Oh, no, I just repeated. Because they sounded very different. Yeah, that were very different. So, yeah, Le Métin and Mercedes also sponsored the race and organized it. And that newspaper, Le Metteen, was also the driving force behind the New York to Paris and peeking to Paris motor races, which we've done episodes on in the past. Great, great, great. And the whole point of them sponsoring is that they get like the exclusive coverage of the garage. It's very exciting to cover it every day.

Right. Burke writes, the event received significant support from the French Minister of Marine, who provided torpedo destroyers to escort the competitors and offered a prize for the race. This collaboration between a prominent media outlet, a major automobile manufacturer, and government officials highlighted the growing public interest in the sport, or at least the spectacle. Yeah, so it sounds so full on. It feels like overkill being the torpedo destroyers. I think they were just there to make sure the races were safe, you know,

if they got in trouble. I don't think they were there protecting the little boats from people shooting torpedoes at them. They also went there pressuring them and be like, keep going. Yeah. Oh, we'll shoot you. Yeah, yeah. We can destroy a torpedo. We can destroy your little boat, mate.

And we will do it. I've just got a little red dot. Yeah. Oh, God. You're sweet, no, I need a little sleep. And then you see the dot just riding out. Oh, we'll go through the night. It wasn't just a little bit.

French government backing the event either, according to Kevin Desmond, author of Powerboat, the quest for speed over water, quote, some 120,000 francs, francs in prize money, and cups presented by the President of the French Republic, the King of Spain, and the Prince of Monaco were also donated for the race. So, yeah, it wasn't just the French government. It was heavy hitters from Spain and Monaco as well. All royalty. And it sounds like the prize would be equivalent today to around 750,000 USD. Wow. Well, this is a big chunk of change.

You got to remember, most of the people involved. Very wealthy to have a motorboat. Yeah, so they weren't really, it wasn't really about the cash for them anyway. It was like it was the thrills, maybe a bit of the notoriety, being the first to do stuff, the challenge. You get a cup from Monaco, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Put in the pool room? Yeah.

I'll chuck it with the other cups. Yeah. Back to the fine work of Burke for this next little bit. Camille's transition to boating began in September of 9-04 when she piloted a sleek motorboat named Massune on the Sane River near Paris. Her performance attracted considerable attention, not only for her skill, but also for her elegant attire, a tightly cinched corset under a full length of leather coat, gloves,

and a hat with a veil adorned with violets. I keep talking about what she looked like. Really? Yeah, it is it? It's a real throwback. Yeah. I don't do that anymore. Next in April of 905, Camille, I mean, after I spent time saying that she was an ago basically before.

Yeah. But I was really not just talking about her. I was talking about her whole time. Her whole generation. I was talking about human. And men. Okay. And probably animals, too.

Give me a look at him. Try not to vomit. Be the judge. Before, what's your dog called, Dave? Not your cold, what's the breed? Oh, a grudel. Yeah, before grudels were invented. That's right.

Dubs are hideous back in. Next, in April 9.05, Camille competed in Monaco's prestigious motorboat meat, which featured an unprecedented number of entrants and drew significant public attention. Shereaster boat La Tokuze, La Torquoise. What is that? Torquise. Turquoise? Turquoise.

Turquoise. Turquoise. Torkes La Torkos No, what is it? Turquoise Turquoise When she raced in her boat

La Tocos Torkos Fitted with a powerful 150 horsepower six cylinder Panhard ended Right before she was in a 20 horsepower Yeah this is way more wow Entering the 100 kilometre race for boats

In the 8 to 12 metre class Camille was reported as being a skilled pilot But ultimately did not finish the event Due to Mechanical Issues The Algiers Toulon race would come just one month later in May of the same year and Camille commissioned the Petre Company of Perry to build a 43 foot or 13 metre custom steel hulled powerboat named Camille. Wow.

Now she's gone somewhere. Just a coincidence I think. I named this after my daughter. Whatever her name was. Well just as a placeholder, just use Camille. I want to come to Melo. Oh, I remember. I'll do some research.

And it was equipped with 90 horsepower Sharon Girardue Voit engine. Whoa. Giraudetepidoo. Yeah, Jerry Deppardue designed. The race was split up as a two stage competition. Stage one from Algiers, Algeria to Port Mahon, Manorca, 195 nautical miles. Stage two from Port Mahon to Toulon to Toulon in France, approximately 230 nautical miles.

I'm, where's Monorca? I'm like, is that how you spell Mayorka? But it's not. I think it's a different place. Oh, different island, is it? Monorca, Mayorka. Where's Mayorka? That's part of Spain.

And where's Monorca? Monorca looking it up now. It's also one of Spain's Belerac Islands. Is it halfway between Algeria and Toulon? Well, not quite halfway. Well, sounded like it. Yeah. Anyway, so there were seven boats competing in the race.

and each had a crew between four and nine people. There was an Italian entry, which was the smallest boat, only 30 feet, with 60 horsepower engine, but it was reliable, and that was named Fiat. There was Camille's boat. There was a Mercedes boat, which was a 45-footer. There was another Mercedes one, which I prefer the name of, Mercedes Mercedes. So good they named it twice. Piloted by Emil Jelinek.

It was a 60 footer. Then you had the one we talked about before, Malgutaut by Borsier du Saint-Chaffrey. That was the largest boat at 65 feet, 120 horsepower. Then you had the Hercules 2, and apparently the pilot is unknown. This is what talking about.

Just little documented things. It had a mahogany hull, 35-foot long. We remember that. Yeah. I cannot remember. This and driving it. And finally, Duke Dukazi was the pilot of the Kwandamim, which was a real luxurious 704.46 foot footer with twin 100 horsepower.

Whoa. So that's the, that's the big one. That's the big. Yeah, a crew of nine. Yeah, luxury. And you, I don't know this, but I'm picturing the rich person. and they've written their name as pilot, and they're just on a banana lounge drinking majitos.

Oh, yeah. Keep going. Yep. This is it. Forward. That's right. Keep it going. They've definitely got like a fake steering wheel.

You just see the real captain behind the front steering. We're doing it. Back to Burke. The first stage of the race officially began at Algiers at 6am on the 7th of May 9.05. where the fleet of boats departed under calm sea conditions, each leaving at intervals of a few minutes and led by the big fancy one. The Kwand meme.

Wow. But she was the only woman doing this, wasn't she? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And is she solo? Or does she have a crew? No, no one's solo. Everyone's got at least. They have a crew. Yeah, okay.

Between four and nine people and everyone. Yeah, right. Camille's, Camille, performed well during the first leg, covering the 195 nautical miles to port Mahon Manorca in 16 hours, but arrived second. Monorca is next to Mayorka. Oh, okay.

Second, that's great. Yeah. The Fiat, the Italian entry, was leading at that point. And it got there quite a few hours before. She got there in 16 hours. The Fiat got there in just over 12 hours. It arrived at 6.15 p.m. She arrived at 10 p.m.

taking up the rear, the Malga Tout, had to be towed in a port. Like, I can't really remember him, but it sounds like he's not too good at stuff this guy. Or he loves having a go, but doesn't have a lot of luck. He sucked at the last, the race, though, every, everything, no one made it, including him. He organised that race, apparently. According to the Smithsonian, I could not find much else about that race at all. But it's great to have another crack.

Yeah. Yeah, so he's being towed in. And then the Hercules two arrived much later in the morning at 11 a.m. So like a full half day later. However, bad weather delayed the start of the second leg from Manorca to Toulon until May the 13th. Unlucky. No sources that Burke has found have much of any specific information regarding this part of the race, as it was markedly uneventful.

However, that's about to change. despite the five-day delay in the start of this leg intended to allow a massive storm to pass shortly after leaving Port Mahan Monorca the races soon found themselves engulfed by the storm Oh Should have waited another day Yeah

If you're gonna wait, you're on bloody an island near Mayorka Which sounds like it's a cool island Enjoy yourself I mean I haven't heard of Monorca It's probably a dud But go to the other island You got five days You're so close to Mayorka

Yeah Get off there The timeline for the first of the boats to sink is unclear. The first of the boats to sink. What a sentence. Wow. But before long, the Fiat was taken on board the support ship that was following close by and was the only boat not to sink due to the race.

Every other boat sank. And they only made it because the boat was taken in by a bigger boat. Yeah. Keep in mind due to the French Minister of Marine involvement in the race, French torpedo ships and cruisers were used as support vessels, meant to follow close to a traitors. So you're lucky they were lucky they had these big Navy ships to rescue them. Wow.

Soon the Mercedes-C. was being towed by its support ship before the tow line snapped and the ship sank beneath the waves. So it sank while being towed. Wow, with people on board or? Well, they were at one point, but they got off. And then they... Before. Before the...

The tow line broke. Yeah. That's good. And then you had a similar fate for the Mercedes Mercedes, which was brought in tow, but its support ship had to cut the lines to prevent itself from sinking. It was going to drag it under as well. Hey, sorry, guys.

Sorry. Yeah, you're dragging us down. We can't keep doing this. And then, yeah, as soon as they cut it, the Mercedes Mercedes sank straight away. Very quickly. The Hercules, too. also broke away while being towed, the line snapped, and unfortunately for them, their crew was still on board.

However, the support ship was able to relocate the ship and rescue the crew before this boat also sank. Oh, my gosh. The Hercules, not the sport ship. Yes. Yeah, okay. As for the Malga Tout, it was smashed to pieces against its support ship. Oh, my God.

That's great support. Thank you. I'm so glad to hear. I really needed this. It's a real abusive relationship. You may hear my support. Smash. I can't believe.

And then, but no one was on board of that one either? No. Well, you know, they're all so far. No casualties. Whoa. Did so far? Yeah. Which could be till this very day.

Maybe they're all still alive. Being supported. Burke says the time frame here is messy, but it appears that sometimes after the Fiat was brought aboard its support vessel and the four other boats sank, the sea began to calm briefly before getting rough again. A guy called Mr. France Rachel was on board a nearby support vessel and later stated about this moment. It was midday and the sea, which seemed to have calmed down, was swelling again. Two competitors remained in the race, the Kwandmeam and the Camille.

The latter sailing with a large lead, that's Camille. I love that they're still like, let's Let's finish the race. Everyone not behind us is like, they're smashed to pieces. I can finish this. You and I can go. And she was going at a superb pace that drew cries of admiration from all the officers of the support vessel, vessel Kleber. And so beautifully blue on the green road. Yeah.

Hey, this is our whole job. But eventually even the largest boat, the quandememe was struggling. It remained afloat until 5pm on May the 14th. the next day, but its crew was ultimately forced to abandon it. While technically not sinking during the race, it was well out of the running before the race ended and did sink shortly afterwards. Eventually. So even the one that didn't sink because of the race sank.

Sank. So this leaves Camille de Guest and Camille, the last racer standing. Kind of by default. Like, not really. I mean, she was. Was leading anyway and the only one makes a good time. Yeah. Yeah, the leader sank.

pretty quickly. She was second and well ahead of the field. And a big part of racing is remaining in the race. Steve Bradbury knows. He'll tell you. Oh, yeah. I mean, maybe she was Bradburying it. This was a bit of a Bradbury.

Because, like, the Bradbury thing, I mean, he purposely held back as well. That was the thing about Bradbury, no one ever gives him the Jew for. He actually knew what he was doing. He's like, there's a chance. He's hoping for her power. He was playing for a sack and he, yeah, it was really clever. Just like Camille. Only she was coming.

You seem to be diminishing her efforts here, Raywin. And as a, well, I'm, I guess the only feminist on this episode. Jess often sits in that seat. You know, she has some feminist tendencies. I don't think she's full-blown like me. You know, we all have our faults. So Camille, she's still going strong. With the help of one of her crew in particular, Naval Lieutenant Menier,

Camille fought to keep the engine on and the water pumps pumping out water that was pouring into the vessel whilst being battered by 30 foot waves. 30 foot. So she, I mean, to her, that's not that high. She climbed a 25 foot meter wall when she was a kid. That's true. But yes, unfortunately, all good things must come to an end. And even Camille knew when it was time to give up.

And it was abundantly clear to those on board the support. vessel Klebe, that she was in trouble. Now I'm going to be reading. There's a much longer article, and I was going to read it all at one point, but I'm just going to give you some. All in French. Well, luckily, Braden Burke has translated for us. Yeah, but this is for an article from Le Petit Journal from the 28th of May, 905.

Is that a big journal? I think that's one of the biggest. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, I've just sort of clicked out some of the highlights, including how it all ends, but just the drama of the writing is so great. I've trimmed out some of the details about the rescue, but this is all about Camille's boat being rescued by its support ship.

The entire crew of the frail steel shell is on deck. Lieutenant Menier at the helm. Madame Dugust is at his side. The four men have their life belts and hanging on to, the boat, they await help. With what anxiety? The storm is blowing furiously. The waves are enormous. Maddening. Seven brave men rushed forward. The seven volunteers surrender themselves to the wave. What a scene of anguish. Ten times the hateful wave throws them back under the side of the cruiser where they nearly break. Ten times they set off again. But yeah, his, that's how it sort of

kicks off. I'm going to give you some of the highlights, some of my favorite passages. Oh, this terrifying spectacle of five men and a woman delivered to such danger when one feels helpless. And with a supreme effort, they approach the Camille. Our hearts are gripped by a painful emotion. Saved. But no! The whale boat is no longer moving forward. The sea wants its prey.

The men are weakening. The task is beyond human strength. We are losing hope. And what torments they must go through. The unfortunate ones. Oh, not the unfortunate ones. And these seconds are centuries of horror. And you cry this one, horrible, exhausted.

The man has let go. Madam Dugast has fallen into the sea. It is a catastrophe. Behind her, two men have rushed into the water. They grab Madame Dugast and, with her, cling to the edge of the Camille. We can barely see them in the darkness that surrounds us. And this drama in the dark is terrible to live through. And finally, when they're all saved, finally relieved, we were able to cry with joy.

As for the Camille, taken in tow, it broke its mooring at nine o'clock. We saw it disappear in the distance in the sea. Wow. What a ride. Oh, my gosh. They got her out. They got her out. They got everyone out.

Just in time. Burke could not find any evidence of a single fatality in this whole thing. Everyone survived. All the ship breaks. All the support. All the rescuers, yeah. I guess it turned up that they needed the full Navy with them. Yeah, yeah.

Seemed like overkill. Yeah. Pretty lucky. They needed every inch of that. Kevin Desmond, who we were talking about before, the author of the quest for speed over water, explains the outcome of the race, writing, as a contestant who would come closer to Toulon,

just 50 miles away, got quite close, Madame Dugust was proclaimed the winner and promptly retired from racing. I didn't know she got that close. Yeah, so close. Wow. But, yeah, as soon as declared the winner, retired from racing to devote herself

to organising and financing the French anti-cruilty to animal society. Oh, poor Diane. Still not. I love my pets I love all my pets Anyone else you love I'm going to come to mine

My servants I would prefer to give all of my money Oh there was that guy on the boat He was nice Yeah he seemed like a Not like an alright guy But yeah Let's go back to the daughter

We'll let Burke take us out Tine off a few loose ends and whatnot Just take it We'll breeze through the final three decades of Camille's life. She's settled down, obviously. Yeah. Or still motorising her whole life.

I imagine, yeah. Well, she's working with animals, just putting on engines on them. Oh, yeah. This is horse power. This horse has one horsepower. I'm feeding it coal. Okay, that didn't work.

Sorry, that's cold power. I'm making this horse coal power. No, that didn't work. What else would try. Okay. Asbestos. Okay, here we go. Hand-fed asbestos.

So, by 1910, Camille's daughter, Diane, grew increasingly estranged and violent in intent. Historical accounts described Diane as jealous and mercenary, motivated by resentment towards her mother's fame and wealth. And maybe the fact that... Yeah. Mom can't remember her name. She didn't have family. Camille's adventurous lifestyle in public and public acclaim may have contributed to Diane's feelings of inadequacy or bitness.

Regardless of why, Diane decided to hire a group of men to kill her mother. Oh, my God. That's interesting. Is that where you saw that finishing? A little bit better. Lodge was conclusive in my mind. So the gang broke into Camille's home under the cover of darkness, intending to carry out their plan without detection, which I think is...

That's a good intention. That is a good intention. Okay, they knew what they were doing. How intention is to succeed. Yes. whatever we're doing. Burke, I think those comments about your writing there were positive, okay? Oh, yes.

We liked them. Yeah, that was classic, Burr. Classic Byrd. Oh, I thought that was the groups. Yeah, yeah, no. Ammee Burke is translating the French. The French. I see.

They wear their intent on their sleeve. Carpetitive. Camille, however, heard the men break into her home and confronted them directly. So they were detectives. They were instantly. You got us. I better tell you my name is my driver's license. I'm so sorry about this.

Perk says they were so shocked that they promptly fled. So they were like, ooh. Well, our plan was to do this undetected. Not even a quick stab. She's awake. Oh God. She saw us. Also, she's a dead eye dick.

If they knew anything about it, as soon as she was already, you'd be like, no, no, no, we were just joking. Don't shoot. Yeah. Your daughter made us to it. I don't have a daughter. But what, are you mean one of my chickens? But yeah, details of what happened that night, murky.

But apparently all accounts attest to her bravery. In the decades following the assassination attempt, Camille devoted herself wholeheartedly to a variety of social and political causes. She became deeply involved in providing healthcare access in Morocco, building on her earlier familiarity with the region from her solo travels there. During her missions here, she also mapped Berber migration routes, cataloged 142 medicinal plants, and documented German arms shipments through Tangia. Additionally, she studied cultures of North Africa during this period with her 1911 report

Femmes du head atlas, which included phonograph recordings of oral histories and preservation of wedding chants. I just can't get my head around how much stuff she did. And it's so varied. Like there's not like a through line. No, yeah. It's amazing. Did she ever go to sleep ever?

Yeah, it's wild. As mentioned, she also dedicated herself to defending animal rights, eventually becoming president of the society for the prevention of cruelty to animals, a position she would hold until her death. In this role, she would institute canine welfare reform, including a code de guest municipal regulations, which mandated two meters of minimum kennel space, per dog and daily 45 minute exercise periods and compulsory anesthesia for tail docking.

So before her, they just lop off the tails without anesthesia. Camille's animal rights activism was particularly notable for its hands-on approach regarding bullfighting. She wanted to cut those tails off herself. I'll do it. But this is about bullfighting. Her campaign against bullfighting, including using acoustic disruption from modified Renault. engines equipped with 150 decibel silence to startle bulls, enacting 127 lawsuits against

bullfighting arena owners and training undercover activists as Matador assistance to stage interventions. Imagine that your, you're a Matador and your assistant. It's like work their way and they've been working for you for a while and then one day they're like, anyway, yeah, I've invited you here today to say, what are we doing? Come on. Come on. These bulls don't deserve this.

This is crazy. Come on, what's going on? This is an intervention. In Paris, Camille established programs providing health care to disadvantaged women and children, addressing critical social needs that were often overlooked by government services of the time. In addition, her feminist principles were highlighted in her services vice president of the French League for the rights of women after World War I. Perhaps most remarkably, Camille continued her charitable work during the German occupation of France in World War II, refusing to abandon her humanitarian mission,

even under extremely difficult and dangerous circumstances. This persistence demonstrated her lifelong commitment to helping others regardless of personal risk or hardship and showcase the same tenacity, determination and spirit she showed throughout her motorsport career and life. Just like, I don't know if we've ever talked about a more impressive person, I'm not sure. That is when you said, but perhaps most impressively, yeah, you're like, what?

Yeah, how could this be told us? Wow. Yeah. But she did so much good, like, in the world. But then you just can't help but think, ah, what about Diane? You know? Oh, you know. Oh, Diane.

I don't know. She was right in front of you. You're just like, looking past her to the little dogs with nubs. I don't know, Diane. Sweet, sweet, Diane. Yeah, maybe, I don't know, maybe she was just a bad kid. Yeah. We don't know.

Those bad ones. She might have been a bad egg, mate. She was a Crespin after all. Couldn't have for an egg. Like, we all agree on that. We all agree. Hope AJ didn't edit that up before I was like, fuck.

I've got to put the Cresden shit back in. Burke finishes saying, sadly, all good things must come to an end. And Camille Dugust died on 24th of April, 1942 at the age of 73, having lived a truly remarkable life. Today, while being little known compared to other pioneering women of history, her tomb in France is often covered in flowers from the roughly 2,300 visitors that come by every year.

Wow. I wonder, so is she the most well known because of that race? I mean, she did so much stuff. She did so much stuff, but I think that race is like, that was her motor race, and then that race were the things that really got her broader attention. Right. So people still visit her, like these motors. Yeah, I guess so.

In like real diehard fans. Yeah. Visiting a grave. What's that day of every day? 2003, 200. Like six and a bit. Six and a bit a day. That's a pretty busy.

That's a busy grave. That's like someone's visiting. A great turnover there. Yeah. Once every four hours, including overnight hours. Well, let's say daylight hours. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you don't go to a cemetery or not.

Every couple of hours. Wow. Yeah, an amazing story. I really appreciate Brayden Burke for bringing it to our attention. Yeah, amazing. Beth as well for suggesting it. And also Oz for suggesting we talk about the race. Obviously, just based on there not being that much info on the race.

Yeah. It was interesting, but her life was really wide. Fascinating. Unbelievable. Do they still do that? What happened the year after? Like, did they do the race? I don't think it ended up becoming a big, big race.

I mean, she retired straight after anyway. I believe, it sounds like it wasn't a success at all. I don't think. The government would be mad to sponsor the game. No one was looking around going round two. Yeah. Mercedes, Mercedes. Can you go again?

Yeah, the fact that no boat came out of the water. Yeah, there's no support this time. Come on. Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah. So I think Ray 1 was closer. Yeah. With my 50%.

I thought everyone was going to make it. Yes. I'm just a happy, good lucky guy, you know. You never know. I like to believe. Yeah. So yeah, that is the report. Thanks so much, Rayan, for joining us.

Oh, thank you. Thank you, Ray one. This is a delight. Our guest jest. Yes. Yes. Yeah. It was a real fest in here.

Now, you record a podcast yourself. in this very room. Is that true? I've been on it. Yes. So I know it's true. Yes, you've been in this room. So you weren't imagining that?

With your sister who. With my sister, no less. From Rake. Obviously. Obviously from Rake. From Rake. Is that a, what's her most known?

Because that's what I first became familiar with it on that. Yeah. Yeah, probably Rake. I saw a clip from your episode with Luke McGregor and he was like, you were in that shark movie. On the reef. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. She gets seen my shark. Oh, so sorry. for spoilers for a 10-year-old movie. She also made out in a deleted scene with Nicholas Cage in a movie one time. Yeah. So fun. Don't at all.

That's gross. Isn't it? That's so weird. Dave's going to need a minute. More? Uh-oh. The support rope snapped. I wonder what's a wilder moment.

Being told you're going to make out with Nicholas Cage or being told you've done it, but it's been deleted. Yeah. After all that. Yeah. All the preparation. All the lip balm that you went through. What's the name of the podcast?

We can find it. The name is, is this a job? Yes, with my sister, Adrienne. So we talked to just creative people. So Matt's been on. I'd love to have you one day. Dave, when you're free. I'd love to do it.

If you could come on, no books are mentioned. Great. I need to break. You've had music. Do you remember ice cream hands? Dave, the main man from ice cream hands been on. There's a Melbourne band. Oh, yeah.

Classic Triple J band. Yes, Charles Jenkins, very funny musician. Well, funny, but also a very good musician. His episode was great. Johnny Hickey, Luke McGregor. I'm going to record an episode with Ben Russell in a couple of days, which will be so fun. Can I request you're asking Oliver Clark? Oh, yeah.

I'm just so deep in Oliver Clark's back catalogue at the moment. I want to hear more of the story. How he got into it. Yeah. I think it would be really interesting. Like this sort of character of the Vegas. Behind short, skirted girl. Okay.

Well, I would be asking that question because I think that that's a bit that we all, you know, that's right there. I want you asking the deeper questions. I don't have a tube. I think it's pretty clear. I don't have a degree. I don't know these hard-hitting I don't know these hard-hitting questions No that's great

That's why they call a shorts She's my short skirt girl She wears a short skirt That's why I call a short skirt I love that But yes, please listen to Is This a Job And also if you're in the Melbourne area I run a gig called Miss Moses comedy with another very funny comedian, Jordan Bar.

She's great. So yeah, come along. Miss Moses and Brunswick. It's a great bar. Rotating craft beer taps. Yes. Love it. And that's the first Wednesday of the month, is that right?

It sure is. Yes, you've both been on. A nice little thing is you have to tell the secret. So I know some of your darkest. Oh no. The darkest recesses of your mind. I always, I'm like, I can turn, this is a great opportunity to soft launch a bit and just like, and there was one that I've never said to anyone before or since. Because it was like, it got so bleak in the room.

I'm like, boo. Really? I had to remember that. I mean, it's usually always very warm. It was about my dick. Nice. And it's eyesight. Yeah.

I'm like, misread this situation. Just a real slow clap to try to get you out of there. And you've got to start your set with it. Anyway. Seven more minutes and chat after that. One of back. Don't want it back with nonsense. Zip your pants back up.

So my fly is done up. It's a classic Oliver Clark bit. Classic. Oliver Clark. Everyone should listen to his tunes. Let's go around the room Favorite Oliver Clark from at the moment I mean I can never go past atomic thrust

It's one of the old time great film clip as well Evan Monroe Smith I haven't seen the film film film film Oh man it's so good Check it out Really good stuff Where can I find it? YouTube

Okay great 70,000 views in Cammy I'll watch it last night I also watched his album launch Which is on his YouTube channel What's that last night as well when I was meant to be writing. You went deep into a lot of thought.

I'm deep in. I'm loving honey bear at the moment, which I think is so great. Honey, yeah. I can't believe you're making me choose. Wow. Has he been a guest on, um, he knew it? He hasn't. He's been on Dugo on.

He was on the Mr. Hands episode. Yeah, the infamous Mr. Hands episode. And it's so funny to think that he's never been back on. So he thinks that that's what the show is every week. which is interesting. Yes. Anyway, we'll be back shortly with everyone's favorite section of the show, but before then we'll say thank you so much for joining us, Raywin.

Thank you so much, Raywin. Thank you so much, Raywan. Thank you so much, Raywin. All right, we've said goodbye to Raywin. We've had a little break, and we've welcomed in, who I think of now as sort of like our guest, Raywin, for the rest of the show. I'd love to introduce her. Please make a welcome, Dave, Jess Perkins.

Great to meet you. Oh, hello. Thank you so much for having me. Hey, I'm a big fan. Am I doing this right? Yes. Okay. You two have never done an improv class.

I know. You just entered a scene and owned it. Well, look, when you took quite so much high school drama as we did, it never really leaves you. That's right. You know what I mean? You trod the boards every day. Oh, my existence was trotting the boards. I wish our school had boards.

The whole world is but a board. And we are all troders. Yes. We are merely trotting. So beautiful. Jess, you obviously missed that episode. Were you listening at the door? I assume you were.

Yeah, of course. Yeah, I wasn't off to do except for the else. Okay, great. I was just, I just, I just, I just needed a break. So I said, Raymond, sub in. I don't even think they'll notice. Raymond was just walking. Yeah, I was like, can you go in?

Jess, can I ask it? You had like a genuine reason not to be here. It wasn't a sickness. No. Are you going public with that or are you, because otherwise I'd love to just make something up right now. Please make something up. I'm not going public with anything.

It's not their fucking business. Yeah, yeah. So Jess is... That I'm trying to better myself as a person. Yeah, Jess is actually taking a class right now. Dave, you ready to reveal what it is? Oh, you want me to... Yeah.

Her class, because I was about to say something crook, so I'm going to get... I'm decided to throw it over to Dave. Yeah, I've been doing some re-educating. I've been doing a course. I'm... Look, if you're happy for me to reveal it... Yeah, I'm happy for you two. That's fine. She is doing improv level one.

And it shows. And it is intensive, so I did have to take weak software. Yeah, yeah. But it shows. It's a few weeks recently. It is because she's intensively doing improv. Yeah. And it was, you know, I got to a point where I was like,

it's time to challenge my brain a little more, learn something new upskill. Yes. And I thought, what's going to make the podcast better? Yeah. Better improv skills from me. That's right. And what are you thought,

what's going to give me more career opportunities out? outside of the podcast. Correct. Yeah. Improv level one. That's right. You've been thinking about your future. Canonically, Jess is doing this.

And it is interesting that that is an option for improv to do it intensively, because I don't think there's any way, any other way to do it. Every improv right now is quite intense. Yeah, that's true. At least when they're improving. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. But see, like, often more people will do an improv class, say, once or twice a week, you know, an hour long class.

And I thought, no, no, no, no. I need to do three solid weeks spread out though. You need to recover. Ten hour days just in a character. I've honestly, I've blacked out a lot of it. I was so deep in the improv. It makes a lot of sense because we talked about it maybe in this episode of the bonus episode we did with Rowan recently.

That's where I met her at Level 1 improv class. So it is, it's amazing. I would love to know where Dave gets his ideas from. I get my ideas from the group chat. Just says, hi, everyone. Yes. Just finished day one. Yeah, I'm going to need some time off.

I'm doing some improv classes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You both supported and loved me for that. And it is tax deductible because it's for the pod. Right. Now, Boppa, you did miss it, but we just chatted about someone who is quite amazing. Camille Dugast, French woman, who, like, maybe most famously, was involved. in this boat race in 9-105 from Algiers to Toulon.

Okay. Which ended with every single boat sinking. But she also did pretty much everything else possible, apart from perhaps be an active parent. And this was a Matt report. Yes. So you were doing a lot of French. Oh, we, we, we.

Oh, fuck, yeah. It was actually off tap. You've had a couple of... It was unbelievable. A couple recent of, like, amazing French women. And I'm all here for it. Yeah, we, we live. I can't wait to listen back to this episode that we're a part of right now.

That'll seem confusing to the listeners, but... So, yeah, it was wild the things. She just, she was like set up an animal rights body, and just like everything she did seem to be unrelated to the others. Like, she was one of the first women to parachute. What the fuck? Isn't it funny, too, that, like, you know how sometimes people, particularly people older than us, I feel,

were kind of like, you finish school, you get a job, you work that job for 50 years. But the best stories we do are about people who have done a million different things. Yeah. And then people do, like, well, there are people in your life that jump from job to job or hobby to hobby and you kind of go like, bloody hell they can't stick to anything. But really, this is fucking living. I haven't read her Wikipedia page, but under occupation, this is what's listed. The first one is so funny.

one of the richest and most accomplished widows in France. Yeah, an important title. That's the number one. She's, okay, so job title, widow. Yeah, so that's the one at the top of this. Number one. If you're doing jury duty, like, what are you there? I'm a widow. Oh, congratulations. And then these are all secondary.

Sportswoman, balloonist, parachutist, motorist, motorist. We somehow avoided that. We did not do a single motorboating joke. Is it because I wasn't here? I think so, yeah. And you were being polite in front of Raywood. And we know that that's your expertise. I love to motorboat. You and Vince Form.

We can't bring it up without you. I understand. I would. Man, all right. So she was the second woman in France to get her license and the second woman ever to race in a car race. Fuck yeah. She was a charity worker, animal welfare worker,

made surveys of Morocco for the French government. What? She is the vice president of the League of French Droit de Femmes. I don't know what that. I can't remember what that means. But only woman official of the automobile club de France, the president of the society to protect the animals. Concert pianist and singer.

Sure. Yep. That like, out of everything. And what, did she die at 45 or something? Like, or would it, is this one of those? She lived till 73. Wow. Yeah.

But it's still like, she lived. You fit so much in. It was, I couldn't believe it. The more, oh, yeah, she also, um, uh, started a charitable enterprise for orphans and disadvantaged women. Uh, she crossed Morocco on horseback solo. Sure. When apparently it was unsafe for any.

She was on a horse. Yeah. You never alone if you're with a horse. That's equinearasia. And she was also accused. of being a nude model. Accused of it. Yeah, and that got a lot of negative attention for her.

Wow. Yeah, like a painting came out with a woman wearing a mask, but naked apart from that. People were like, that's you. She did. She didn't have a great relationship with her daughter and it doesn't seem like, and I mean, I don't think we talked about at the time, but we mentioned a few times and I have been thinking in the break. I'm like, we probably wouldn't mention that for a dad who does all this stuff.

And we go, geez, it doesn't sound like he was really parenting that much, so was he? That is a great point, yeah. But yeah, but her relationship was so strained with her daughter that her daughter put out a hit on her mum. Oh, shit. Yeah. Which failed, like, comically. That's kind of amazing. Yeah.

You're absolutely right, though. When a dad fucks off to do different things, we kind of go like, well, that's a bit shitty. What an amazing adventurer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is, I think, the main tone about it for this. Yes. You're right. If you do think about it for the dad, it's kind of like, oh, well, they wasn't a very present father.

But at least they had their mom. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's just interesting commentary. don't you think? Oh my gosh. Yeah. Society, am I right? No, yeah.

And I will say that it was mainly Ray when making that point about it being a bad mum. So I think, you know, that's luckily a feminist here was. Yeah. You didn't say that about a man. Yeah. Man, I tell you what, I talked over Ray one a bit. Did you? Yeah.

Just to try something new. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, actually really slipped right into the role. Or right under, you know. Anyway, so let's get to our favorite section of the show now that you're up today. I don't think you'll need to listen. that episode anymore, Bob. Yeah, I'm good.

So now's the time where we thank you if you have our great Patreon supporters. Now, if you want to get involved, go to patreon.com slash do go on pod. It's a bunch of different levels. Like, even the lowest level, you can vote every third-ish week,

every rotation between the three of us anyway. And then there's, you know, a higher level where you can vote two out of three. There's bonus episodes from a certain level and above, four a month. We do a D&D campaign. We do a bonus report every month.

This month was about a... Ray when guessed it on as well, it was about a spite fence in America in the 1870s onwards, which is pretty fun. Wow. 40-footer. Someone bought a 40-foot wall to just fuck off their neighbor. Love that.

And it went like all on three sides. That's good stuff. And they had no air. They had no sun. Yeah. Just because they wouldn't sell to this rich developer. The guy's like, well, I own everything around you.

I'm just going to 40 foot fence around you. Hectic story, yeah. So the San Francisco spite fence that episode's called. Fascinating stuff. Wow. And we also found a Wikipedia page dedicated to other spite fences, which is pretty fun. Anyway. Wow.

So yeah, there's that and there's games and all sorts of stuff. There's heaps of stuff. In Perth a couple of weeks ago, someone said to me that their favorite bonus episode is Am I a Dead Woman? Wow. And they said they even started playing it at home. Wow. And they said, well, that's not really true. We just played celebrity heads,

but I would always start with the question, am I a dead woman? And my friends thought it was a bit weird. Really? Yeah. Get better friends. Yeah. If they don't think, am I a dead woman is a perfect first question.

Yeah. Come on. Is that who you want to be spending your life with? The answer is, yes, you have narrowed down a lot. A lot. Eaps. Because like, isn't technically there's more people, alive now than I've ever lived before?

No. So if you're a dead woman, they can't be true. That cannot be true. Is that not true? How could that be true? Well, there's always facts like that that I assume can't be true. Like, someone was telling me that iron in like, added iron in cereal is actually literal flakes of iron.

Is that true? Yeah. It is. Yeah. How can that be true? But it is true. But there's literally like, yeah, yeah, that's true. There's a clip of another podcast having this exact conversation that I've seen

multiple times on TikTok. And is it true? Yeah. Iron is iron. We're eating little bits of iron? It's crazy. You thought there are two types of iron? Oh, yeah. I'll just Google how many people have died on history and the first thing that comes up. It's estimated that approximately 110 billion humans have died representing about 94% of all humans who have ever lived. Okay. And how many live now then? So 94% is there 95% alive now? Yes So technically Of people who are alive

A 95% or above alive Huh Got him Is it true about a species of animal Pigeons or something Something is more alive now Than never dead Have I at least made that up

From a misunderstanding Of something else Probably Probably Yeah okay I didn't just dream Man I've been having vivid dreams lately What are we doing

We're doing the Patreon section Have we explained this much The first thing we like to do is the Sydney-Shaunberg level or above. They get to writing, give us a fact-quota question. This section of the show actually has a jingle. Get something like this. Fact quote or question! She always remembered as a dick.

She always remembered us a sing. I did more of a shing there. I loved it. I can't believe you didn't harmonize with me. You harmonized with each other. You never harmonized with me. But I appreciate both of your work. And this section of the show, this section of the show,

people on the Sydney-Shonberg level, we get to give us a factor quota or a question, or a brag or a suggestion, or really whatever they like. And then I read them out on the show. And this is episode 499, I believe. It absolutely is. So I'm reading out,

first up from Conner Bee, Connor gets to give themselves a title, and Conner's title is Senior Coordination Officer for the placement of Essential Quest Clues that seem to be coincidental, but are actually strategically placed to appear to adventurers at just the right time, and not a second before.

That's a pretty important role, Conner B, I would like to do. Wow, well done. Connor's got a recipe. Ooh, haven't had a recipe for a little while. I've been cooking a bit more lately. I did my first spaghetti bolognaise last week. My God, you're fucking dull. Sorry, that's awesome.

And then I turned it into the next night into spaghetti bolognachos. That's a bit of fun. That is nice. So better? Portmanteaus are the number one podcast joke, so thanks for doing it. That's good stuff. It's really a joke. It's more of just a meal I had.

Yeah, and he's just sharing with us his personal growth at 34 years old. He's cooking bolognese. First ever. I thought you were joking. Spaghetti ball nachos. It was great. So what it is is nachos? No, we get it.

But with bolognates. Yeah, we get it. But there's no spaghetti. No. It's just bolognaz. It's just bolognachos, yes. Yeah, but if I said that in context, you'd be like, what the hell are you talking about? Is that like a chili?

Almost like a lasagna. Yeah, that's not. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty common, though. nachos with a bit of chili on top, is it? Yeah, but it's, I don't know. This is more of an Italian.

More of an Italian, sort of a, like a red wimy sauce versus a, versus a, um, I wish they could see, Dave. It looks like he's, he's squishings a ball. Yeah, it does. It looks like his cup and balls. That's right. If your tomatoes doing that, put it back. Yeah.

All right. So here's the recipe. Two ingredients. Baking soda, vinegar. It kind of says, I think you can figure out what to do with it. honestly just a fun thing to do sometimes. You can also do it with a vase buried in sand or dirt. You and some others can mark some spots in the sand and the first person's point that the lava reaches wins. It's a bit like marble racing, but with fake lava. Baking soda and vinegar, that's how you make

those American science projects. Right, right, right. And then... That I've seen on The Simpsons. And the competition, you set them often, try not to... Yeah, I guess you're all sitting a certain point. I'd sit up up the June. I reckon that would be my... Right up the June. Right up. Mate, I'd put it right up the June.

Hang on. Thank you so much, Conabee. Yeah, I've never seen one of those done Australia, but they seem to be on every American TV show, kids making a volcano. Classic science fair. Thank you, Conabee. Next one comes from David Loring.

I can't remember. it loring like boring or loring like boring? It's like boring, isn't it? Loring. David Loring. Okay. Not like boring? Just think of the word boring. And David's gone with the title executive director of hype and hyperbole, hyperbole, hyperbole even. I think both of those pronunciations of these days accepted. David writes, we all know there are the appointed decision makers over which facts are fun grill grim and dull. That's a grill fact. Yeah, that's a pormanteau.

Can I do that now? I'm a chef. Yeah, I'll do grill fes. You've done one Bolognaise and you're like, oh, chef, I'm a chef. Well, he did one Bolognaz and one Taco Bolognaz. Taco Bolognaz. That works better, doesn't it? Let's just move on.

Tachau Bolognaz. I can't look at you right now. That's night three, Taco Bolognais. And what that is, is Tarko. Shut up! Bollonaco? Bollarito. Bollarito is pretty good.

But David keeps going. But you may need to assign someone to the facts that are shocking, earth-shattering, and upend all you have ever known. Oh, God, like a life-changing fact for possibly bad reasons. Are you ready for this? Nutbush, Tennessee is an unincorporated rural community, meaning it doesn't have formal incorporated status. as a town or city, and though it does have general boundaries,

this means that it does not, in fact, have city limits. No. Whoa. A mind-blown emoji. Bye. What is she singing about then? Makes no sense. Well, they call it nut bush city limits.

I don't think she ever says, technically, it is the nut bush city limits. She says, nut bush, they call it nut bush city limits. Are I adding the call it a billion? I think so. Next we'll be hearing that that dance isn't like official. It's not an international thing that we all do at weddings and school discos. They go a nut bush. And the final one this week comes from Damien of Long Island.

And the title is Rain Sounds listener, 4,000 hours. Whoa, that's a lot of hours. Holy crap. I saw it. Do you know Shane Gillies, comedian? I saw a clip of him talking about how a friend stayed over and he listened to Rain Sounds at night. The friend does or Shane does? Shane does. Okay. And the friend was sleeping on the couch and was, and the next day was like, you listen to a plaws going to sleep? That's, he's just like, that's psycho, man. That's really funny.

And he's like, no, it's relaxing rain sounds. That's so good. Again. Six more hours. And apparently he's like, I can't listen to it anymore because I can hear the applause. That's so funny. So funny. Hopefully I haven't ruined that for you as El Damien.

Damien has a quote writing. I've had two dreams featuring the pod. One is a full-blown dystopian nightmare where Matt apparently runs the world through podcasts. Wow. I don't do that. It would be dystopian. I think you've misspelled utopian there, mate. The other one was barely a dream and more of a quote.

I was waking up from a nap and I was pretty groggy, but I heard a voice. It was clearly Jess and she said, quote, Hey, get married by a clutch at first spin, would you? That's something I've said. I've thought about getting that tattooed because I believe it's so much. Get married by clutch at first spin. Yeah. Would you?

Is that anything? Damien asks, is that anything? I don't think it is. No, I don't think that's a thing. I don't think that makes any sense. Anyway, if you want to hear about Matt's dystopia, let me know. Bye. I'd love to hear about it.

If you could fill us in on your next FQ or Q. That'd be fantastic. Thank you so much to Damien, David and Connor. The next thing we like to do is shout out to a few of our great Patreon supporters. Oh my God, I've been working on my Trump through the week. Do you think it's any better? Oh, no. Let's see.

Well, firstly, what? What? Just, you normally come up with the game. Yeah, it's hard because I wasn't here for this one. Yes. She's just, I mean, you've got a bit of an idea that she does a bit of everything. Yeah. So maybe, like, and so broad in scope.

We're going to give them two jobs each. Okay. Unrelated. This is just the top two. All right. What about if I'll do play. and names, you each do a job. Okay.

Okay. All right. And I'll do it in my best Trump. Or not. Yeah, we had that enough of that last week. You could just do your normal voice. From Grafton in Australia. Okay.

Thank you so much to Matt Shields. Okay, so that's just the one and done for the Trump voice. Great. How about your different accent for each one? Different impressions, sorry. Okay. I'll do all the Trumps. Great.

So Matt. Matt Shields from Grafton. Matt Shields from Grafton, New South Wales. Okay. Perfect. He's a great guy. Yep. And his

He's a fantastic guy And his jobs are Plummer And Emu Wrangler Oh Yeah, very hard a wrangle That's good at A beautiful big bird

A great bird Just saw a picture of an emu On Facebook Can I come clean with you guys Trying to book a plumber Do you mind if I come clean I'd prefer you didn't Well I just want to let the list of

Oh he's going to anyway But he asked permission And I said no Dave Dave looked at me like he was open to it Okay Okay here we go So this isn't for Jess

This is just a Dave I'm not listening I'm not listening I haven't actually worked on this impersonation at all. It's just naturally gotten better over the last week. That's shocking. Next up from Address Unknown.

From Address Unknown? I can only assume probably from deep within the fortress of the Moles. Thank you so much to Mazebro. Is that a new impression? Yeah, this is Trump's son. Really baron. Barron. God, never heard him speak.

Okay. Didn't know he suddenly thought that. He sounds exactly. exactly like this. Maze Bro is an underwater, like one of those deep diving scuba divers that fix oil rigs and also. A t-shirt designer.

Oh my gosh. T-Jet is like, I went to the bottom of this rig and this is an only probably this t-shirt. Oh my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Thank you so much to Maze. Maysy.

Next up from Melbourne here in Australia. It's Josh. William's Who was that? One of his other sons How many sons does he have? A couple. A few.

Don Jr. Yeah, that was Don Jr. Okay. Joshua Williams, Jess, first job. Joshua Williams is a bank robber. Bank robber slash hairdresser. Yeah. So always changes hair every year.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Different color hair. Beautiful disguise. Yeah, it's very important. It's very important to get a nice cat in color. Yeah, no, that, if he's got one, his last son. Have he ever died your hair, Matt? Yeah, I bleached it when I was a teen.

Mm-hmm. And I didn't understand it. They put on a cap and did the tip thing. Oh, that way, yeah, yeah. It was so painful. Very uncomfortable. Oh, I don't do that now. And then it just looked like my whole hair was bleached anyway.

I don't know. It was to protect your scalp, I guess. Sounds like it was stinging your scalp. What, they put a pin through the holes or some sort of metal thing and pull out chunks of hair. So that all your hair comes out through this. Well, it's how they did like the blonde tips back in. in the day. Right. Because I had, I, yeah, when I was in grade six, got a few blonde tips,

but I think it was just the fringe for some reason. Yeah, sick. Well, it was the fashion of the time. And then it grew out and, um, did not look good. No. Yeah. Is it, is it, um, silver in the, um, because you got the silver shock at the front? Yeah, actually, yeah, maybe, they'd regularly damage my hair. Well, no, I don't think it damaged. I thought maybe it improved it. Improved it. You're like, yeah, actually, was the, just the fringy bit here. But then I also in year eight went fully black. And then, that made me look very pale. On the hair.

Yes, on the hair. Yeah. It's just going to qualify that. And it looked very, very pale. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you would do. It would really wash you out.

Yes, it didn't look good. You're a summer. Yeah, yeah. You can't do, you can't wear black. You were, and it was the floppy fringe or it was full emo Dave? Oh, full emo, Dave. Oh, full email, Dave. Yeah.

You were welcoming yourself to the black parade. Yeah. Funnily enough, I never got into my chemical romance, but I always thought they were posing. Anyone else to welcome him? But looking back, I'm like, that's some great songs. What were you? You're missing out. And also, what were you doing if they were posing?

Oh, of course. I'm coming clean. I was a wanker. I'm coming clean. What are we? Next up from Parkville, again here in Melbourne, Victoria. It's David Devonish. Oh, what a name.

Devinish. I love it. David Devinish. David Devinish is a. part-time knitter and also work security at Kmart. Oh, what. And they probably sell knitting gear probably. Yeah, definitely.

Why do you think they need security? Yeah. I think that's what the K&Nanko stands for, actually. Next up, thank you so much, David. Next up from, oh, how address I know. Can I know you're shown from Dead Within the Votras of the Mildre. Wow. Just let me say wow before I say this name.

Yeah. Please, welcome. And thank you. Taz Whitcamp Wow Taz Whitcamp Taz Whitcamp Okay is a WWE wrestler

And greyhound breeder Whoa My friend Taz had a greyhound And I think there was a WW wrestler called Taz Yeah So how do you guys get your ideas From Buddha in Texas in the United States It's Katie Phillips MacLeod

Oh great name Katie Phillips McCloud Is Katie Phillips MacLeod is Katie Phillips Mac. No. It's why, you, last week, you made it look so easy. Yeah, I do that with a lot of things. That I thought, if I just didn't think about it for a week and came back.

Yeah. Just from seeing you do it last week, I thought that would be enough. Yeah, but you're not me. No. And you never will be. I wanted it to soak it in. I should have just played that clip on repeat of you saying, not even listening to him talk. Yeah.

Donald Trump, that is. Katie, when I was it, the Joker? Katie Phillips MacLeod It's heading towards Gollum Anyway, yeah go on Is, of course You said something Katie Phillips MacLeod

Very famously Is an ice cream Artisan Oh, and also works in the McDonald's drive-thru Yeah So if you're getting a Sunday You're getting a Sunday

It's going to be a good one Give me my precious That's my precious That's my precious Give me my precious Give me my precious That's my precious That's my precious

He's definitely seen those movies Recently And they've stuck in his brain very well Give me my precious And my axe And give me my axe That's my new character A Donald Giblets

Donald Giblets Wow Wow All right we've got three Three beautiful people to thank you From Preston again here Big Week for Melbourne patrons.

Preston in Victoria, Australia. Please thank Catherine Middleton. Who married Prince William? Yeah. I'll do it, Prince William. Thank you, Catherine Middleton. You're a beautiful wife, a beautiful mother of my children. It's so good to be married to you.

Do you think he would think of her as precious? I think you're precious. I think you're wonderful. I think you're fantastic. That's my precious. She's my precious. But that's my precious. I feel so...

Give me my precious. Give me my precious. I feel so bad for this. Catherine Middleton, because I assume that you're old enough to have probably gone the first at least decade of your life. And no one ever commented on your name and now it's changed forever. Yeah. And now people are pointing you at the street saying, that's my precious.

Catherine Middleton is, of course, a olive grower. Oh, that's a... A video game tester. Oh. She's living my dream life. My uncle and aunt who lived in Preston, and over the weekend, they harvested all their olives.

I took them to a community garden where they all got crushed and made into olive oil. Oh my good. And do they get to keep the oil? This is just the thought process. Yeah. I saw Preston.

Show you what things out. Oh, right. I thought Catherine Middleton and I thought Wario. But her real... The princess is Kate. So I don't think Catherine would probably get away of it. Or is Kate Middard and sure for Catherine.

And now she's Catherine. Oh, she's changed to Catherine. No, it's just like what she's called now that she's like about going to be queen. That's her regnal name. Yeah. Is that right, Dave? Regnal. Yeah, they all call her Catherine.

It's her pre-regnal. Pre-regnal. I thought maybe that's why Catherine, but maybe, yeah. But Middleton doesn't get used anymore. Oh, interesting. Because that's her maiden name. Right. Back when she was a maiden.

That's right. Next up from Auckland in New Zealand, it's hey danky. Hey, danka. Hey, danka. Hey, Dunker is a Christmas tree farmer and also a hobbit reenacter. Whoa. New Zealand. They do one as a hobby and the other one.

They're a hobbit. A hobby and a hobbit. Woo! That was the worst high-five I've ever done in our entire life. I think Haydanker, as it's written, might be Hayden K as well looking at the email address. In case I got that wrong. And finally, from Manchester, where I'm going to be in September? Come see me at the Froggin' Bucket.

It's the only show at this point that I know. I really got to ask Giles, who's producing the tour, where I'm going. But I know that one because it's already on. We'll be doing an official announcement at some stage where you know the dates and where you're going. Hopefully before this episode comes out, to be honest. That's yourcombe.com. Maybe on do go on pod.com if I figure out how to get the keys to that website. From Manchester, thank you for your support.

Henry Thomas. Henry Thomas is, of course. A. Train conductor. And magician. Close up only. Yeah. No, far away magic.

Yes, it's because he's not wearing any pants. You've got to zoom right in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He will not wear pants. Thank you so much to Henri or Henry, Hayden, Catherine, Katie, Taz, David, Joshua, Mays and Matt. And that leaves us only with the final thing to do, which is welcome in a couple of people into the triptage club. Dave, what is the triptage club?

This is our Hall of Fame. clubhouse for people that have been supporting the show for three consecutive years on the shout-up level or above. And, you know, we've given them a shout-out previously, but now it's time to get down to business and welcome them into this Hall of Fame. Once you're in, you can never leave. But why would you want to? Because we supply food, drinks, entertainment, and, you know, whatever you want, honestly. Name something, Jess. Um, drugs. Probably. Yeah. Well, there is a doctor surgery and, you know, if you can convince them to give you... But I'm the doctor.

Yeah. Jess will give you whatever you ask for. Yeah. If you, yeah, Dave was about to say if you convince her. Doesn't take much. Doesn't take much. It doesn't take much. I want you to have a good time. Yeah. She does a lot of winking. And you need this wink.

Yeah. And this is medicinal wink. Yeah. Are you showing some non-physical symptoms that aren't going, you know, that I can't check? I couldn't possibly check. I just have to take your word for it. Wink. Wink.

Yes. Yeah. Would come the answer. I've got a great medical brain though. So it's not like, you know, I'm not going to endanger you. No. You wrote a book. I wrote a book.

After last week's episode, you're inspired. Yeah, I've read a book, and now I'm pretty confident I could save a life. Yeah. Well done, Dave says. I haven't done anything yet, but he's like, I'm so proud of you. Oh, is it because I read a book? Yes. Okay, thank you so much.

Thank you. And Jess, you're behind the bar. Yeah. Normally do a drink. What drink cocktail have you made? Well, this is a French lady. Oh, it sure is. French martini.

Oh, my gosh. I love a French martini. And is it just a le matini or what's a? No, no. No, no. A French martini is, it's usually like a blackberry shamord. So, like, it's like a liqueur. There's usually, I think, vodka in it. It's vodka-based. That sounds delicious. They are delicious. I've enjoyed many a French martini in my time.

Camel du guest sounds like it's ready to go for it. Do one of your pormento jokes, Dave, that you always do. With Camel du guest and a cocktail. The, what, the Camel de Gastle? Something like that. Yeah, yeah. Garcely. It's a, it's a scary cocktail. It has like a ghost on it.

Oh, Camel do ghost. Exactly. Exactly. And have you booked a band? You're never going to believe it. What? I keep expecting you to have a week off. Like, we don't have to always have a band, but you always come through.

He just keeps booking him, yeah. Sometimes it comes down to the wire, like I'm walking in here and I'm getting texts from their booking manager saying. they're in. Yeah. And I go, yes. Awesome. And then Matt started speaking.

Couldn't believe it. He started speaking French. I thought, well, I've booked a French person. So good. And then he said the name, uh, Camille. And I was like, oh my gosh, because I've got the French singer known only as Camille. Oh my gosh. She's here.

What are some of the songs that we can expect from Cammy at the after party? Uh, le feston, caes a turn around reprise. Mm-hmm. Turn around reprise. Yeah, I love the reprise. Let's be more, Turn around, Equation,

seeds. Mm-hmm. Lots of good stuff to look forward to. Yeah, we'll be forward to it. Oh, I need a reprise. Turn around. So we got two inductees this week. Jettin.

What does Jetan mean, Dave? Jatan? Jetam. Or Jetem, is it? I love you. I love you. Yeah, but what does it mean, Dave? Dave.

I've got no idea. I thought of my thorough compliment, you'd shut up. That has never once worked. Dev Shadem. Am I close? No. You're even further away. You're saying Dem.

Shetam? Shetam? Just read the names. Yes, so we're two inductees this week. I'll read them out. I'm on the door. I'm going to lift up that velvet robe. Two names.

You jog on in if you hear your names. There's 800 old people. already in there. They're going to be cheering along. Dave's hyping them up on the stage. He's got the mic in hand. Jess has got her hand on Dave's rear end. Just for support. Consensual support. What's a bit of bum touching between friends? I've always said that. I think if she really talked me into it. She kept saying. And she's your boss. So I don't know if it's appropriate. What do you mean? We're friends. And that's it. Nothing weird. Just a couple of friends, one of whom has the hand on the others, tush.

That's it. Yeah, but I mean... He likes it. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I'm a student of body language. And Dave doesn't look like he likes it. He can say no thank you at any time. The quicker we get through this, the first she gets a hand off, so please.

First up, please, welcome into the club. Make some noise from Carlisle in Great Britain. It's Kearen McFadion. Not the pronunciation I thought you're going to go with it. Well, you go with your pronunciation. Karen McFad Zine, more like Kiran McFad's queen. Woo! You're a queen!

You're royalty, baby. Yes, queen. I'm sure, is Carlisle in Scotland? Feels like it. I'm sure there's some chance that they would love to be associated with the Royal family. Thankfully, it's in Cumbria in England. Okay.

They love it, damn. They love it. They all love it. They all love it. And from Boxborough in Ma, which might, I don't know why we can never remember these ones. Is it Massachusetts? Ah. In the United States, anyway, in Boxborough, Boxborough, Ma. Please welcome, make some noise for Sarah Tardiff.

Sarah, I really care for you. Oh. That's really good. That's good stuff. That's really good. No notes. Well done, Sarah. Thank you.

make yourself at home. Grab yourself one of those drinks. They sound fantastic. Same to you, Kieran. Help yourself. Please. Please. You live you now.

So live it up. Jess, anything we need to tell people before we go? They can suggest a topic and we encourage them to do so. There's a link in the show notes, which will take you to do go on pod.com. That's our website. Where you can find stuff about Matt's shows coming up as he figures out how to put it on that website. Yeah. I think I'm doing like six states, something like that in the UK.

Awesome. And you can also find us on social media. Do go on pod on most socials. Do you on podcast on TikTok. Oh, yeah. Please follow us. We'd love you to follow us and, you know, even like our posts. That'd be great.

You could comment on them. It's such an annoying thing in some way. I think you get something out of it because you're following along and it's a bit of fun. But also it does help us with opportunities booking live shows and stuff. We live in that weird world there where venues will look. at your following count to see whether or not they'll have you on or whatever. And same with international producers and whatnot. And can we also just take a moment to say,

congratulations Matt Stewart on 10,000 followers. He did it. Thank you so much. He did it. Can I just say for now? Yeah, well, honestly, because I hit that mark and then I saw this thing I hadn't seen before and it said deactivated accounts that follow you. And there was like 150 accounts.

So I deleted all them and went under again. I don't know if I'm actually bad. Why did you do that? Well, they were deactivated accounts. Who cares? Oh, I don't know. Like, it's all just a number, isn't it? It's all just a number, baby?

Yeah, I don't know. I just, it said, you should delete these if you want. You should delete these if you want. And you said, yeah, I don't want 150 followers. Well, they're dead account. They're not real. Who gives a shit? It looks good to have them.

I mean, none of it's real. It's not like accounts who just have entirely bot followers, but they've still got 20,000 bot followers. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's just funny timing to do that right when you've been campaigning to get to 10. So you've gone back under, is that what you're saying? Yeah, I believe so.

Fuck. You just sabotage yourself. Oh, no, I'm back. Just believe in yourself. I'm back, baby. Okay. What a roller coaster that was. How about that?

Dave booted home. Well done. Congratulations, Matt. Thanks so much. That is a big moment for you. We'll be back next week with episode 500. Can you believe it? And we've got some special stuff planned for you.

So much fun. I can't wait for everyone to hear that maybe. We don't know what it's going to be, but it's going to be great. It's going to be so much fun. We'll be back then. Thank you so much for listening to the last 4009 and 9 and weeks. I hope you'll join us for 500. But until then, thank you so much for listening and goodbye.

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