Do Go On - 527 - Area 51

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

Area 51 is a highly classified United States Military Facility in the Nevada Desert - there are many theories about what goes on: aliens? UFOs? Portals to other dimensions? The truth is in there! From Bob Lazar to Storming Area 51, this episode delves into it all! This is the number one most voted for topic of Block 2025!This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 7:57 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).For all our important links: https://linktr.ee/dogoonpod Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/Jess Writes A Rom-Com: https://shows.acast.com/jess-writes-a-rom-comOur awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Happy Block. Happy Block. And what better way to celebrate Block? And 10 years of Dugawan than hitting the road, we are doing some shows around Australia and New Zealand. All the shows have sold out. So we've added extra shows in Perth, Brisbane, Auckland and Wellington. Yeah, it's so exciting.

You know, you never know. You never know people are going to want to come. And people are coming all over Australia and New Zealand for us. That's right. And if you want to come to go to dogoonpod.com. We'll see you there. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dev Warnakey and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins.

Hello and welcome to the number one most votable topic for block 2025. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. They said it couldn't be done. They said it shouldn't be done. Yeah. But we said, step back. Oh, yeah. We said step back. You're too close. I can't hear what you're saying. Yeah. I don't care what your legalese bullshit lawyer said. We will not cease. We will not desist. We won't. We will proceed. Yes. Yeah. We don't care how controversial this is. No. This topic. And what is, what are you talking about, Dave? What's Block? For new listeners.

It's the most wonderful and magical time of the Duguan calendar, nay, society's calendar. Certainly podcastings calendar. Absolutely. Podcasts months of months. And I say months because we've annexed November to be November as well as October. And this is the time of the year where Matt puts together a massive list of topics. A couple of hundred. These are ones that have been suggested multiple times.

They've been voted for multiple times. And basically, we do a countdown of the nine most votable topics of the year of the season. And everything has been building to this moment. This, we're about to reveal the number one topic of the year. This is literally thousands of votes have been tabulated. Yes. Yes. And this got the majority, not the majority, it got most of them compared to the others.

It got on my majority of minority. But I think it was pushing up really close to a third of all voters voted for this. They can't vote for multiple topics, but a third of all voters. So one in three people voted for this topic, which is huge. when you have thousands of people voting. So a lot of people want this topic. I'm really excited for it. And Matt, once again, is reporting on the number one topic.

We were just saying off air how it's just a chance thing. It is, yeah. The number one topic for Block, I mean, it makes sense to me that it falls to you multiple times because Block really is your baby. Yeah, I birth Block. I'm like a wombat in that way, pushing out cubes or blocks. And that almost adds up to a coherent thought. Yeah, yeah.

Weirdly, I got it straight away, actually, for once. Yeah, when he said one, but I'm like, yeah, cube, poo, got you. 100%. I got two. And he was like, I birth blocks. And I was like, yeah, like they poop cubes, I get it. Okay, great. I just was worried that I said something that was not worth saying.

No, no, no. That would never happen. That would never happen. And if it ever does, we'll tell you. And AJ I'll edit it out. Probably. So, yeah, I'm very excited. And I want to put to the listeners that we take August

cinder block next year but that's just a thought um august have september off and then october november i eventually i want to make it a year round block you know 12 months of block we do the 52 most voted for topic all right this number 47 yeah i think people would definitely not get bored of that yeah great well i think we're in a green sand well we'll move towards that maybe the 20 year anniversary of block yeah that's good yeah yeah uh Okay, so this is the most voted for topic of Block. The way the show works is one of the three of us takes a topic away, learns a bit about it, reads up on it, brings that information back and gives like a year 9 or 10 level report.

Maybe you're 11 in celebration of Block. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No pressure. No, I think this is, I think, I think this would get a pass at least in a year 11 English oral presentation. That's great. And they'd ask, you were supposed to do five minutes and you spoke for two hours. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, but...

It was pretty good two hours. And that quantity doesn't count? So, and we always get under the topic with a question. I think you two might know this topic because we had to figure out all the... I'd still like to do the dance and play the game. This time of you would do logistically, we have to divvy up the topics so we know who's doing well. But still, let's pretend. I don't remember.

Okay. And maybe you... Do you remember, Dave? You got a tangential question. All right. My question is, it's not tangential. I mean, it is tangential, but the answer is not. The question is, what would you get if you multiplied a seminal 90s Melbourne scar band by 7.286?

Oh, are we thinking area 7? Yes. Times 7.2.86. Is that 51? It is. Area 51. It is area 51. Matt? Yes.

Can I lean in a little? That was a fucking great question. Oh, my God. Thanks so much. That was a lot of fun. And it takes just a lot to compliment a math-based question. Yes, and a mat-based question. Yeah.

That's true. Not a fan of either. No. But that one was fun. Did you like my use of the word seminal? Yes. Yeah, that's great. I looked it up to make sure, because I mean, seminal, the dictionary says,

means strongly influencing later developments. I think that was true of Area 7. They were very influential in the Melbourne ska punk scene. Particularly there are seminal hit, nobody like. That's right. And I was in the film clip briefly for Himbo. Is that online? That's online, yeah. I've never seen that. It's very briefly. I blur across the screen. How did that come about? Why have you? I don't think I've ever heard that. It was a live at the wireless concert, which is a Triple J thing they do. Jess. I don't know if you're aware of that.

Triple J at the radio station. They'll do a live concert. And I went to the live one. I was at the ABC studios. Cool. And yeah, they just did a live clip for one of their film clips. Anyway, the other... Himbo, my God, we're watching this straight after on the big screen. The other definition of seminal is relating to or denoting semen, which I didn't realize that. Oh, I thought that was semenal. What a funny word that means those two things.

That, okay. Yeah, that's from a dictionary. Can I ask you your question? Oh, dear. Are you padding? No. No, no. I've written too much.

I would have kept writing as well. When you've started, just straight after the question of the Oxford Dictionary defines, it's like, oh boy. And then there's multiple meanings. Oh, boy. As you two know, I've been in bed sick all week and this has been written. Well, as we know, you've been in bed all week. Okay, yes.

That's right. You haven't been there testing me or anything. No. We can't say if that was a seminal bed in any meaning. We don't know. It wasn't. um so it was not influential i don't think anyone will be well no um but i did yeah this is just how i wrote it at some point i'm going to be remembering the week as we go through this report and we're

like oh i was in an absolute fever dream hayes there obviously but anyway uh this has been suggested by a few people including adam stultz from tampa florida bradley from london in england Corrinas from Katie, Texas, Izzy from Melbourne, Thomas Gilmore from Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Ben from New Zealand, and then a couple, so I'd talk a bit about this guy, Bob Lazar, and a couple of people specifically suggested him. Douglas Caesar from Santa Barbara in California and Steve McCoglin, or McCollan from Ireland in County Cavan. Is that right, Jess? No. No.

what, forget I said that last bit, from Ireland. I think it would be Carvin. Carvin. No, that's probably wrong too. Anyway. Claudia Carvin. Claudia Carvin. All right, let us begin.

Thank you. On the 24th of May, 1989, only one of us was alive at this point. A man gave a live interview with investigative reporter George Knapp on KLAS, Las Vegas, a CBS TV affiliated station. Channel 8 to the locals. Great. The man using the pseudonym,

Dennis claimed that the US military was studying alien technology in the Nevada desert at the mysterious Area 51 compound. For a pseudonym, you can have anything. And you chose Dennis. He panicked. Unless it's after the train station. Yes. In which case, good stuff.

I think Dennis is, it's such a funny name. Dennis. Because it is like, it's almost like your name being blank, you know. It's such a nothing name. It's just a nothing name. Do you think it's the blankest name? It is the blank as like... I think Bob could almost be as blank.

Bob? Bob and Dennis. Glenn? Oh. Glenn, yeah. Dennis. Dennis. Dennis.

Honestly, it vanishes before my eyes. Dennis. What does? Yes, exactly. But Denise, one of the sexiest names is. Oh, ding-dong Denise stras. Yeah, only time I'm writing characters. Yes.

Got Denise. That's number one. Yeah She's the hot cheerleader Denise Not most popular girl at school Of course Denise

Denise I'm making the Sims I'm making a teenager who's going to be Denise Denise I name every baby Denise Yeah Well you

You know You name your babies For the job you want I want them to be hoties Yeah You want them to be a Denise I want them to be a doctor You're growing to a Denise

I'd kill to be a Denise It's like the Johnny Johnny Cash song A boy named Sue Yeah I named a boy so he'd grow up tough because he'd have to find love you you name a kid denise because you want him to grow up awesome and hot yeah and just cool the coolest person ever i don't give a shit without any

trouble in their life ever i don't want my kid to have i don't care about it personality i just want to be hot yeah you want to grow up to be like you know there's adele there's riana yes there's denise correct yeah which is going to be hard because ding dong denise dry style kind of has that she'll die she will but she's also got ding dong she's got so many d names around it yeah um anyway So, Dennis, Dennis. Oh, Dennis, that's a fake name. That's the pseudonym. Yeah.

And he, but he's, you know, blurry, classic blurry picture. Like a Dennis. Exactly. Not a bit nothing. No soul. I actually take it back. It's a fantastic pseudonym. It's a perfect name.

It's just a blur where a head should be. Yeah, people go, I think there was a person there. Yeah, someone said it. Couldn't tell you who. It's like a blank void. Now, what seemingly gave credence to his story was that he claimed he had personally worked at Area 57, Era 51. And so while my brain does not remember Area 51 is a perfect name for a mysterious base

Because it You don't remember it My brain will not remember 51 It's a weird number 59 is you know The porn parody would surely be Area 69 Oh that, yep The porn parody of a mysterious military base

They're not parody anything, one they There's just a whole base set of It's not even for a video. You know, they're just set up all the time. Yeah. Just working, but in a porny way. In a sexy way. Oh, ding-dong, pizza's here.

In a very Denise way. Hi, welcome to Area 69. I'm Denise. Yeah, I bet you are. Oh, I'm here to clean the pool. Come on through. Come on through, please. Pools out the back.

So, yeah, he worked there. Okay, Dennis. At 51, not 57. At 51, that's right. All right. Well, then that's hard to. I mean, how can you argue? Exactly.

He worked there. In the interview, Dennis said that inside this top secret area, there were nine recovered flying sources of extraterrestrial origin that were being studied in an attempt to reverse engineer them so the US could build their own. That's huge. That's huge. If that's true, which I have no reason to doubt, Dennis.

Yeah. And what use is late 80s? It's not 89. Okay. And so there was... Before the world got good. There were vague rumours about things that may have been happening over the previous decades. Years ago, David did an episode about Roswell, which occurred before this.

And there's a few states over, is that right? Yeah, that's a few states over, I believe. Yeah. I don't know if that's a few states over or right next door, I don't know. Well, it's a state over at least. Yeah. Possibly 30 states over. Yes.

No one can tell us. It's very mysterious. But probably linked by... New Mexico disappeared on the map. I think there is a theory that it is linked by an underground tunnel. And is New Mexico, that's near Canada, is that correct? Ah, no. Okay.

A bit of fun there. Now, I don't get it. Who was this Dennis? It was Dennis. Oh, pseudonym. And could he be believed? Yes. We said he worked there.

So I have no reason not to believe Dennis. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you this. When I asked if he believed him, the journalist who did this story. Yeah. George Knapp with a K. He said... Knapp.

When he was asked, do you believe him? Knapp said, yeah, I do. I've gotten to know him pretty well over the last couple of months, and I believe he's telling the truth. So who's this journalist? He's bringing him on to, like, mainstream a CBS news program, like a nightly news program.

No one's really done that before. This is like... Normally this would be like, oh, you know, in a cheap rag, you know. Or like on a videotape that's like, you know, underground. Yeah, you have to dig it up. Like a community TV show or something. Yeah.

A real Waynesworld type thing, but bad. So who is the journalist? This George Nap guy. Some hack? I assume. Well, no, he was an award-winning journalist, in fact. During his career, he won a hack of the year. He's won dozens of awards, including regional Emmys, and two P-Bodies.

Oh, okay. this is a big time. Yeah, Peabodies I've heard of. Yeah, regional Emmys. I've heard of that. I've heard of Emmys. Yeah, he's won a lot of stuff. Cool.

Dozens? Yeah, I think I counted up like 36 awards, maybe. So he should be, we assume, pretty trustworthy. Yeah. Yeah, I believe him. And if I believe NAP, and if NAP believes Dennis. Case close. I believe Dennis.

Ipsifacto. Also, this has nothing to do with anything. This does sound like padding, but I couldn't, I couldn't avoid telling you this. In 2010, it was a reporter that Knapp married his long-time girlfriend, and in all the reports, this is what she was called, Anne, in inverted commas, the Viking, Fetchner. And that's how she was only referred to. Like in media reports.

And I was not able to figure out why. I don't know if she was a wrestler or what, but I googled, Why is Anne Fetchner known as the Viking, and there's just no results? In multiple sources, she's referred to as the Viking. Yeah. And the Viking Fetchner. That rules. So good.

I agree, you had to report on that. Yeah, it's got nothing to do with anything, but come on. It's worth noting. If this is not a representation, you get bonus credit from me. So Dennis, I think it was only a couple months later, Dennis went public. He did another interview with Knapp. You might be wondering, why did he go public? He was so keen to hide his face, hide his identity.

Oh, it went fully public. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, wow. Face, voice, name. Everything was out there. The reason, in his words, quote, to protect himself. I think he's going to have a really hot name. He's going to be a Chad.

Okay. I'm thinking... Because he went for such a boring name as a pseudonym because his name is so sexy. Yeah, or Trey. Trey. Trace brouance. Trisprouance.

Yeah. Those are our guesses. Although I know the answer. Those are our guesses. What about Chad Bonesworth? That's really good. Okay. We've locked,

I've noted those down. Let's find out if you're right. But he was saying basically, he's like, I'm coming forward because they know who I am. Yes. And if I disappear. Oh, okay.

That's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now you know who I am saying these things. If I disappear, you'll know what's happened. Yeah. He said that, they were after him, you know, the shadowy forces. Yeah.

I meant in black, maybe someone like that. To the point that they shot out one of his tires. Whoa. Did they miss? His real name, I've already said it. Bob Lazar. Bob. Oh, Bob Lazzar, or Bob Laser, you said the first time, which I think it is.

Lizar, but, you know, L-A-Z-A-R. I said Bob was a... You did, that's what I thought that was quite funny. Oh. So you said the two... Dulles names And he's had both But his surname is Lazar

Which I think Yeah Yeah That does a lot of the heavy lifting He couldn't He couldn't have a cool First name as well It's too much

Yes Giovanni Lazar Oh no that is really good That's actually really good That is actually really good That's too good Liberace Laza Oh my God

Too good I can't concentrate Coming What do you mean Is it one of those names That it makes any name cool Jess Lazzar Jess Lazzar

Oh, Jess Lazzar Dave Lazzar It's actually kind of hard to say Jess Lazzar What about the one that I said before Glenn? Glenn Lazzar What about Glenn Lazzar?

I still kind of want to punch men There was a Saints Ruckman in the 90s First name Lazzar Vidavik What? Whoa It was a pretty great name Lazzar Vidavik

Lazzar Vidavik That's the best name of it That's sexy as shit And at what position? Ruckman So they're like also nine foot tall. Yeah.

My gosh. Went into car sales afterwards. That tracks. I'd buy a car from Lazar Vidivik. Yeah. Come on down to Lazavidivik motors. Yeah. A name you can trust.

100%. And then he's like selling Ferraris or something. He can't even fit it. Yeah. Knees up to his chair. So Robert Bob Lazar. He was the real name. He said that he used the name Dennis as an in-joke.

So he found it funny too. Okay, great. We all, that's common ground for. all of us. Yeah. We all think Dennis is funny. That's funny. But the in-joke from his perspective was that his direct superior at the secretive site's

name was Dennis. So he's like... So Dennis would be spewing that the secrets are being spilled and also he's making fun of his name. Yeah. And apparently, Dennis was not happy. According to Bob Lazar, it wasn't a joke to Dennis. He called right after and said, do you have any idea what we're going to do to you now?

I said, well, no, he hung up the phone. Okay, well, what a productive phone call we just had then. Wow, what a great conversation, Dennis. Yeah, do you have any of what we're going to do? I was hoping he had some ideas. You interrupted my dinner, Dennis. Yeah. What do you want?

Yeah. Oh, you don't know what you're going to do? Fucking, Dennis, come on. Yeah. I had to get out of the lazy boy to answer the phone. Dennis, are you trying to be threatening? It's not working, Dennis. Dennis, no one's feeling threatened by you, mate.

Come on, man. What are you going to do? Beep, beep. I tell you what, just being like, what are we going to do to you? This vague threat is so Dennis. That's so Dennis. You know who'd never do that, Denise? Oh, you'd know exactly what you're up against if Denise called you.

Yeah. She'd say, you're finished in this game. What do you mean? And then she'd tell you. She'd say, you're not making states. Because she had a plan. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She'd have a plan to, like, eviscerate you publicly. Yeah. They say, there's no way you're coming a prom this year. There's no way you're going to be prom queen. No. I'll make sure of it. You're done. Yeah.

Fucking Denise. Denise's like, I was going to let you have it, but now I'm taking it for myself. Yeah. Denise out. Also, and then hangs up. And Denise calls on a private number so you can't call her back. Yeah. She doesn't want her having her number.

Yeah. You know what I mean? You were right to get frazzled there. Yeah. It's like, I was just thinking about Denise. I understand. My goodness. Can't star 69 Denise.

You know what I mean? You wish. We never had that here. Is that something I just know from American TV, Star 69? Oh, is that like a reverse charges? We had a callback last number. We had something like that, I'm sure. Yeah.

Maybe it wasn't as hot as that. No, God, no, it was probably like, hash one, two, three. It was probably hash missionary position. Yeah, something boring like that. Functional? We wish we could have Star 69. Functional, though? Functional, yes, of course.

Yeah. Not dinner for two. No. Certainly not dinner for two. And if it was dinner for two, we'd be saying a grace beforehand. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Reservation for two married people.

Yeah. Very, this country was founded on Christian values. I heard someone say. And I agree with them. About this country? Really? Yeah, it's so funny. I mean, this country was really founded on genocide and like a weird island prison.

Yeah. Oh, I guess so. Maybe that's... I guess that's Christian? I don't know. I guess you could interpret it in a lot of different ways. Yeah, I wouldn't go straight to Christian, but... Well, I think Christian is like, you know, love your brother, love your neighbor.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not like come in and wipe out a whole group of people who were already here for tens of thousands of years. So it's interesting. I don't know. I just think about it differently, I suppose. Yeah. It's a long book. Yeah.

I think those people... It's got a bit of everything in it. That's the thing. I think they were putting up churches in between the... Oh. Yeah, great. And I love in their brothers, the white ones. And, yeah.

You know why this topic really got back into the media in recent years? Area 51? Yeah. Why? Joe Rogan had Bob Lazar on his podcast. Oh, my gosh. So I think there might be a bit of crossover. Did you watch?

I know about 50% of our audience love to experience Joe Rogan. Did you listen to all 15 hours of that episode? I listen to the first half hour. I think it's the first episode I'd watch slash listen to. It is the big, like it is one of the biggest podcasts of all time. Yeah, I think it is the big one. You're showing a photo of Bob? Yeah.

I could trust this guy, actually. Just from his book. Yeah. Big goggles. He's like, he's very trustworthy, presents very science-y, you know. He looks like a science educator. Yeah. And when he talks and in that interview, I was like, you know, I'm believing this guy.

Yeah. Even though, you know, there's part of my brain saying, obviously, this is nonsense. Well, we should set up. Do we want to believe? I want to believe. Because I want to believe. I think the truth is out there. Yes.

I think that is true. Whether or not Bob is telling it, that's up for debate. I don't believe in believing. Uh-huh. I want to know the truth. Yeah. Let's skip to the end. If you've got the book of truth, you're not reading the middle chapters.

Yeah. What is the first of the last paragraph? Yeah, absolutely. What's the answer? Yeah, that's what I want. Let me quote the French president, Emmanuel Macron. Okay. But do it in French, please.

Wait, he was asked in English. Do you think the Australian Prime Minister, Scott Morrison, lied to you? And he paused. He's walking in a conference. He says, I do not sink. I know. And then get walking. And it was the most badass thing I've ever seen.

Did the... That is good. Did the group of journalists explode behind him? Yeah, they're like... As he put on or took off some sunglasses. What's a collective noun for a group of journalists? A gaggle. Gaggle.

You're a journalist, you wouldn't know. Thank you, yes. Something else, but... It's a gaggle. Okay. Like, don't ask and then get my answer and then tell me I'm wrong. Well, I wanted to believe. I don't think.

I know. I don't think, I know. Is he like an example of another bad world leader, Macron? I want your opinion. Now it's your turn. Yes or no? Now it's your turn to name of a good one. Honest Abraham Lincoln?

Yeah. Okay, got off on a technicality. Go on, try and cancel him. John Kane? I couldn't tell you, but apparently he was a good one. Okay. Scullin? Nelson Mandel.

Well, we'll never know, because we keep putting up for the vote, and Patreon never wants us to report on him. Yeah. No, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, is it like there's no good billionaires. There's no good world leaders because it's like it's just not attractive to good people. Or you can't get to that spot by being a good person.

Yeah. Or when you get there, yeah, that's right. You have to compromise on so many things. Yeah. I should just say to our billionaire listeners, I know, about half our audience are. Yes. You're not, I don't mean that about you. Billionaires and or president slash prime ministers.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Not you guys. No, you are. Especially if you're a Patreon. Yeah. If you're on our Patreon, thank you so much. And if you're on our Patreon just given like, you know, half a percent of your wealth to us every year.

Yeah. Then we think you're not only not bad people. Yeah. We think you're good people. Good people. Dave, what would that be? 0.15% of a billion. Oh, gosh.

50 million? Yeah. So if you're given 50 million to us a year. That's fucking crazy If correct If correct But please do get on to Dave At his many social media

Is it 5 million I'll take either I would take either Dave if it was 50 bucks I like it It's 5 million I think sorry everyone Oh that's still good I think the three of us

Could split 5 mil and live pretty comfortably Yeah I think that'd be okay Oh we could bump them up Because I mean That's assuming they are billionaires even. But they're probably multi-billion.

You know, they'll have two. Once you get one, you need more. Yeah. Obviously, billions are not enough. Check it on the pile. Yeah. And those billions are making billions. You know, when you hoard money.

Anyway, we get it off track. Yes, keep going. Tell me to go on. Go on. I just fucking did. Just in a different way. Do you go on! People love it when we do that.

They said the name of the thing. So, yeah. I don't really know what to make of this threat from Dennis. We don't hear of the real Dennis again. Right, okay. It's all very. It's very, like, the more Bob tells the story, it's very compartmentalised at the place. You only really know a couple of people who are working above you and maybe the people

working with you. You only know this tiny bit of what your work's about. You don't know the full story. They're keeping it all compartmentalised. Like when you're auditioned for something, they give you like two pages of the script. Yes, exactly like that. Thanks for putting in it in terms that the other 50% of our audience. Yeah, everyone can relate to, that's right.

We've got billionaires and we got artis. And never the two shall meet No No absolutely not Oil and water Chalk and cheese Water Water

Water Oil and water I didn't say it like that Oh Oil and water No I didn't say like that No Oil and water

Oh Billionaires and our taste Oil and water Is that how I sound Yes Was that not a spot on impression of Matt I thought he was talking. The weight that's been lifted in the last few years when I stopped editing the podcast I did.

Huge. Huge. Just don't listen back. It means that I'm not raining it in at all. I used to listen back and go, oh, is that how I sound? Keep an eye on that. Now I don't do that. So I apologize.

Do go on. Lazar told Knapp that he had earned degrees in physics and electronics from MIT and Caltech. But when Knapp tried to confirm this with the... The schools, they said they'd never heard of him. Oh, that's weird. Okay, my uni has definitely never heard of me. And they still email me every fucking three times a year going, would you like to make a big donation to this university?

And I said, no. No. No, I still owe you fucking money from 15 years ago. Right off the debt. Yeah, then we'll chat. Then we'll chat. We won't. Because you're fucking, you kind of suck.

You got a lot of, I mean, you're important. Yes. And it's a, I think the financial stuff is a bit of a mess. Yep. But here's my three-stage solution to the higher education problems in Australia. Yes. I'm going to put that in our Patreon section, if anyone wants to do with them. Perfect.

Yeah, I think that's good, because it's good to get back to Bob Lazar. Yeah, got to get back to Bob Lazare. MIT hadn't heard of him. It's important to, if you have any big societal solutions, put him behind a paywall if you can. Couldn't agree more. So, yeah, they hadn't heard of him, but like who he hasn't lied about it? doctor or something they've got that doesn't mean everything else he says is made up yeah who he hasn't like told their friends a fake name and then built a business with them based on that

you know what I mean yeah who hasn't who hasn't hands up and um yeah it's it is also like you know this is 9 and 89 what are the records like it might be a mess back then it's all analog yeah uh paper in a filing system uh but until as far as i can tell still to this day there's never been any proof they've never found it no no one has no one not a not a classmate remembers him no photos of him being around none of my classmates would remember me well I agree I don't do I don't think after what I did I don't think I'd remember any names from my classmates either but I would have I would be able to track down some proof yeah but in 89 maybe there was less the degree stuff yeah I've got that in a canister somewhere yeah

mine's framed a house yeah shoot in a space yeah you know for posterity My mom keeps going, do you want this? You could take this, put it up at home. And I said, no. That's so funny. Your mom's like, please take your shit out of my house. You're a grown woman. So, yeah, the same thing happened when Nap contacted the Los Alamos National Lab.

Lazard told him he worked there as a physicist. But when Nap contacted the lab, they said they had no records of him. Nap's like, that's weird. But this was curious, though, as Nap was able to find a 1982 phone. book from the lab that listed Lazar among the scientists and technicians working there. Oh. Which he showed in the news, I imagine he wouldn't have put the story to air probably if all of this just looked like bullshit.

He's like, oh, this is weird. That's interesting. And that made him, he's like, that is strange. So the fact that Lazar is saying they're basically trying to erase him, starts to look a little, you're like, oh, maybe there's some credence to this. Where did he find an old phone book? Well, it was only seven years old at the time, but still probably an old library or something. I don't know.

Imagine being seven. Oh, yeah. I can't. Ew. Ew. Disgusting. Imagine being seven years older than me. Ugh.

Or six years and nine months or whatever. 69. 6.9. That's a horny decimal. So, yeah, it seems like, was there a conspiracy to delete Lazar from history? Yeah, they're trying to redact a man. He certainly thought so. He thought he was being redacted.

Is that good? Yeah. But do you think Redactor Man would be a good superhero? Yeah. Redactor man. And he takes off his head and it's like a sharpie, a black thick sharpie. And he just like blots out people's faces. Yeah.

You have been redacted. It's like a semi-Arnold Schwarzenegger type character. You've been redacted. People are like, I have to watch that off now. Well, you can't. That's permanent. You've been redacted. It's really hard.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, yeah, that's the point. That's the point. You've been redacted. You've been redacted. You don't exist now. Sorry.

He's redacting stop signs. It's causing all sorts of traffic issues. It's like running a stop sign and then being like, oh, God, I can get in trouble for this. Redacted. So, yeah, he thought he was being redacted telling that, they're trying to make me a non-person. The schools I went to, the hospital I was born at, past jobs, nothing comes up with my name on it. I've read in other places and, you know, who knows who's saying this? Is it the man?

Is it, you know, going all the way at the top? But people have found that perhaps at the time he was maybe working there or somewhere else, I've read different things. But as a physicist, not as a physicist, even if he was working there, maybe in photo processing. That's different. Yeah. That's different to physics. Yeah.

He was working at the shop front there. Yeah. He was working in the canteen. He was polishing glasses. No, is that what they called? Cafeteria. Yeah, cafeteria. Americans would be like, in the canteen, a water bottle.

Yeah, he was working in a water bottle. That would have been so confused. No, that would have said, what would they have said? Water. He's working in a water bottle? Water bottle. I can't do accents with this sickness. Yes, with the sickness.

That's such a shame. I used to be. Usually a superpower. A week ago, I was spot on with all of them. Spot on with all of them. One week ago today, spot on with all of them. It's so sad. So sad.

Rest in peace. All right, beep. You've lost your greatest attribute. Damn. Impressions. It's really, actually. I don't know if you're making fun of me or not, but I'm really sad about it. Can you still do noises?

I assume I can do noises. Could you maybe do an impression of, well, not an impression, sorry, a noise. What does it sound like if Bob was developing one of these photos? Um. What's that? Honestly, worth paying for Patreon to get the video of that His tongue was doing all sorts of things It's mainly just putting him in water, right?

They're pegging them. Well, it's chemicals. Oh, liquid. It's chemical, chemical water, you know, chemical water, chemical water. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Really? My gosh. Box Brownie.

Could you hear that? Could you hear that? Oh, I could hear the difference for sure. Yeah. I can smell it. That's why they call you. I was back in a dark room. Just reminded me.

Box Brownie. All right, two good one. So, yeah. Maybe you worked there, maybe didn't. Knapp also found a 982 article from the Los Alamos newspaper, though, profiling Lizar, which listed his employment as a physicist. Okay. The article itself was all about his jet car. What?

Yeah. Bob Lazzar made a jet car. Bob Lazzar made a jet car. Yeah, apart from seemingly confirming his employment as a physicist at that lab, some highlights from the article, I'll post a link to the article. I mean, just, you know, this doesn't mean anything much, but the journalist's name was Terry England. Terry England sounds like a character that you do.

But actually, you do Terry British. Oh, Terry British. Terry England. It's so funny. That is definitely fake. Yeah, Terry England. Hello, I'm Robert Newspaper. Hello, I'm Josephine, New Zealand.

Hello, Josephine, just putting you through now. Josephine New Zealand calling from Terry England, thank you. Put you through. The car that he turned into a rocket car was his family's compact Honda. And his wife's like, how am I going to get to the shops? Oh, very fast. How am I going to get the children to school? The problem was...

They'll roll out. It couldn't... You couldn't just... It didn't work as a rocket car from zero. You had to start with a normal engine, get it going. Get it to like 91 or whatever. Yeah. Then you could...

Back to the future. It had a personalised number plate. Jet, you bet. Dave loves it. Jess hates... I love it. Loves it. I love it.

Jet, you bet. Jet, you bet. Apparently, the Honda could reach speeds of 200 miles per hour. Shit. When I asked why modified the car, he replied, there's no real reason except for going fast. Am I right? It was so loud.

And why did you do it? I'll just point to the number play. Jet, you bet. Jet, you bet. It was so loud that the cops knew when they got noise complaints. They're like, Bob's running the car again. And apparently they'd come around, like, you've been running the car today? And he's like, yeah, and they're like, yeah, we had a few complaints.

You mind knocking it off the rest of the day. But they sort of, they kind of loved it as well, apparently. Cops, they'd come and have a look. Cops love stuff like that. Cops love souped up cars. Yeah. They love them. Love them.

It sounds exactly like that, the scene from John Wick when the cop gets called and they're like, to Keanu John Wick. You working again, John? And he's just killed a bunch of people that have broken to his house. He's like, yep. And the cop's like, all right, you keep down the noise. See you later. I'll leave you to be an assassin. I'll leave you to make a jet car.

Okay. Now, he didn't jump straight to jet car. Okay. His first... Jet bike. Correct. He saw his daughter's bike and thought, she's really slow.

Yeah, she could go faster, and I think I know how. I think he was pretty young. He was, you know, probably a late teen, early 20s when he's, when he's into this sort of stuff. I was just into fucking. His bike. No, you weren't. Well, you fived it.

That means you believed it. Yeah. I want to believe. Yeah. I want to believe. So apparently this jet bike he made could hit 100 miles per hour, which is insane. 160Ks an hour. I imagine a motorbike or a push bike?

No, a push bike. That's crazy. Oh, but he said the cops saw that and put a stop to it for a fear of safety. Yeah, and nowadays, the electric bike I had before, A, I got hit by a car and then B, the bike was stolen. Why haven't you brought that up before? I don't know, I just, I'm humble about it. I don't like my pastor to find me. Imagine being, I'm pretty humble.

I'm pretty humble about it. Why don't you ever talk about you, your accident? I'd like to stay humble. I don't want people to see me differently. Yeah. Oh, whoa, you've been in an accident? Yeah, and I'll say, yeah, I have cracked a rib before. Thank you.

but my bike was it was like the speed was kept like 25Ks an hour or something and when you did 25 did it still feel pretty quick it felt pretty quick but sometimes I was like Come on I would like to go a little bit faster But this guy's doing 160

That's wild That's too fast on a push bike Yeah He too fast if you're I'm going to show a couple of photos One with the bike and one with the car Their old photo's a bit blurry But he

To me kind of gives me A mix of Napoleon Dynamite slash Garth slash maybe a Stephen Merchant character I'm imagining Yeah Yeah A lot of glasses

Were involved here Oh yeah Oh You tell me that bike did 160 Have a look at that jet on the back mate It just seems really Incredibly dangerous Yeah apparently

They look like the tires are solid They're not even blown up They're just solid bits of rubber To the point where Sorry When you hold it up mad It completely blocks my camera.

Which is so funny, the laptop I'm talking about. Yeah, wow. When you hold up your dick, it does not block out Dave's camera. Not at all. Not even a square centimeter, which is weird. We'll post the photo on the Instagram show. Apparently, yeah, with the car as well, it got to the point. He had to lower some of the power because it got to the point that, like, basically,

if it hit a rock, it would lift off. Wow. It was like, it was very dangerous. E.T. So he toned it down a bit. It's funny to have to tone down your rocket as the jet, you bet. Jet, you bet. Oh, it's awesome.

It's like an old hatchback. Yeah, it looks like a fun car. That's like the Garth thing. It's like a mirthmobile. Yes. Jet you bet. And it ended up getting a lot of branding on it and stuff because people around town, different businesses would be like, hey, we'll give you free.

He went in to buy tires and like, wait, you're the jet car guy. If you put our business on your car, we'll give you tires. That's awesome. Tires aren't cheap. Yeah. Yeah, they were like 100 bucks a pop in this is not in 882 or something. Yeah. So, yeah, early 80s, he's starting to get a bit of a rep for, you know,

being an oddball inventor type in his local community. His stock just went up in my book. So, Lazar, he's unmasked. And he can't be that old at this stage, can he? No. Because he's, like, seven years earlier with a rocket bike, he looks basically like a team or late teens. Yeah, I believe when he was working era 51, he was in his early 20s.

Because he talks about it, like, he's talking about it to Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is like, oh, how did it feel and stuff? He's like, man, I was like early 20s. It was sick. It felt awesome. Yeah, okay. Yeah, cool. So he's still pretty young when he goes public.

So he was born in 59. So he goes public at about age of 30. Okay. Oh, so old. Yeah, sorry, I thought he was young. Yeah, yuck. I thought he was hip. He was being 30.

But yeah, he's now on the record talking to George Knapp, the two-time Peabody Award winner, which I should have looked into what it means. It's probably just one of those awards that whitewashers are rich man. You know, like, like, what was that episode you told us about? Oh, the Nobel Prize. The Nobel Prize. I bet you it's probably, I think that's starting to think that's what all awards are. It's just like a rich guy about to die going, I've done a lot of bad stuff.

I'm going to fund an award. is named for the American businessman and philanthropist George Peabody. And it honors what it described as the most powerful, enlightening and invigorating stories in all of television, radio, and online media. Yeah. And I reckon if I looked into George Peabody, he'd be a good guy, probably. I think he'd be a good guy. He's got a great beard, you'd like him.

I do like him. Great. Great beard, but it's a tiny body. Yeah. Weird. picturing just like a, I don't know how to describe it, it's like a really little, round thing. A little pebbly sort of body, yeah.

Bight size. Yeah. Oh, smaller even. Yeah. Like you could fit heap quite a few in your mouth at once. It'd take multiple of him to make up one bite. Yes. Maybe you could use your mashed potato to pick up the little bites.

Imagine putting a bit of gravy on him. Oh, I don't want to do. You know when he zoned out for a second? I imagine putting a little bit of gravy on him. Well, that's on you for zoning out. I was looking up George Peabody. Stay present, Dave. Sorry.

Sorry, sorry, sorry, so, sorry. So, Lazar's unmasked. Yes. He is Dennis. Yes. He goes on the record. What does he say? Well, apart from anything else, he does talk about how his rocket Honda probably got him the secret gig at Area 51.

Ah, they poached him. Yeah, basically it was poached him. which is some people like, well, that's pretty ridiculous. Like the top government science secret experiment, they went, this rocket car guy, let's give him a whirl at this. Does that seem crazy? You know, that seems like they're experimenting with rocket technology, aren't they? Well, I think it's beyond anything that we can even understand, Dave.

Yeah, but like if you, if you're going to pick someone, you're going to pick someone who's just making it from scratch anyway. Yeah, exactly. You know, because... It's like a kid, it's like when you get hacked by someone, You don't put them in prison. You offer them a job. Okay?

Like we did. Now we've got a hacker working for us. His name's AJ. He's our editor. Do you know the name Edward Teller? Ed Teller. I do. I just heard it now.

Yes, great. Have you seen the film Oppenheimer? No. I haven't seen it yet. Too long. Well, Ed Teller's played by Benny Safty in it, one of the Safty brothers, I believe. And he also famous. Which one?

I think he's the one who was in Happy Gilmore 2. But he was in town, Los Alamos. He was in Oppenheimer and Happy Gilm War II. The actor. Yeah, what a fucking filmography. I know. I mean, Adam Sandler was in half of those as well. Which one?

Is that wrong? I don't have that in front of me. I'm blessed off. I haven't seen Opelma either. It's about they have a bomb where they explode into space. Yeah. A 10 and 9. 8.

7. 6. 5. 4. It took me too long to realize you were doing a countdown. I thought you were just making noises. And then you got to 5. Oh.

No, it was a bomb, wasn't it? Do you do a countdown for a bomb? Yeah. So, this is Ed Teller? Ed Teller. He's in town doing a lecture, and Lazzar's like, I'm going to go check this guy out. When he arrives, he notices Teller's reading the local newspaper that he's on the front page of as the rocket car guy. So he goes up and introduces himself and says, hey, that's me.

That's me. Exactly. That's a good inn. So, yeah, Ed Teller's also got the nickname of the father of the hydrogen bomb. So it's so funny, just to rock up to the father of the hydrogen bomb. We go, hey, you remember me in the paper. So anyway, he's in town of a lecture. Laser starts chatting to him again, all right. And then a few years later, when Lazar's looking for work, he sent out a bunch of CVs.

And one of those CVs, he sent out to Teller. I wonder, I don't know if you remember me. I was that rocket character. I was on the front page of the newspaper you were reading one time. Yeah. Yeah. I think you remember. I think you remember, but I'm being modest.

Yeah. And yeah, Teller remembers the conversation, apparently. As in Lazars, says he remembers the conversation. Does Teller ever confirm that he remembers the conversation? I don't think so. Okay. I think, this might have even, I mean, this part of it, I learned from the Joe Rogan interview. Right.

And that happened 16 years after Teller died. Okay. So I don't know if he was telling the story that way before he died or not. But apparently he's been relatively consistent with the way he's told the story over the years. So maybe he had. Dave, don't ask questions without notice like that. Sorry, you make me look really unprofessional. Yeah, so apparently, I sent out the TV and he said, I remember you.

Yeah, and apparently Teller passes it on or hooks him up with a connection, and that leads to this job at a mysterious place called S4, which is a few miles south of Groom Lake. And it's an area within the sort of the greater area 51. Where's Bride Lake? Every other day of the year. Probably every other body of water, I tell you. It was worth me interrupting you, I think.

I think so, 100%. All right, so let's talk a bit about where error 51 actually is. This is back to Knapp reporting in 89. Era 51, that mysterious corner of the Nevada test site is no longer much of a secret. The fact that secret of things go on here is a given, even to the Soviets who make daily spy flights over the facility to take a peek at what's going on. So just don't do anything outside. Yeah. What the fuck is the point of flying over the top?

Oh, still a big building. I wonder what's happening in there. Yeah. I mean... Just looking at the car park and going, oh, it looks like Glenn's in today. What does that tell you? Well, I mean, one of the big theories about this place is that they're testing out how to fly UFOs. They would do, and it's a huge site.

So you'd fly over hoping that you've timed your flyover as they're taking off and you get to see the little flying saucer. I don't think they did see a lot. Okay. But then maybe they did. It would be like blurs, wouldn't it? You're like passing up with your satellite is there. No, I think it was smart.

A good call. Yeah. I commend you a Gagirkin and his team. That's not quite right, is it Dave? It's so good. I'm never going to quote it. Gurgurgan. For National Geographic, Sydney Combs writes,

About 120 miles northwest of Las Vegas. It's so funny that I've been close-ish to this place a few times. I don't really have a great interest in Las Vegas, and I've been there twice. I wish one of those times I just went about 120 miles northwest instead. So it's somewhere between mile markers 11 and 12 along Nevada State Highway 375, which has been renamed by a clever, a business savvy man. or whatever, a governor or something, to the extraterrestrial highway. The signage, official signage, that calls it the extraterrestrial highway.

Well, the government, like, fucking hell. We're trying to keep this a secret, man. Come on. Work with us here. I don't know. I reckon they're probably doing something different weird there, right? And they're like, no, it's not aliens. Go on here.

They're, if they think it's aliens, I'm glad they don't know the real truth. We're actually hoarding all the juiciest burgers here. only the army gets to eat the juiciest burgers so juicy they're the juiciest so I'm happy for them to think it's aliens but this is actually all American

grain-fed beef top secret combs says somewhere along this extraterrestrial highway lies an unmarked dirt road although no buildings are visible from the asphalt

The track leads to the dried up Groom Lake and Homi Airport, as it's called, on civilian aviation maps. For those in the know, this road leads to the back gate of a remote military base with many unofficial names, including Paradise Ranch, Watertown, Dreamland Resort, Red Square, The Box, The Ranch, Detachment 3, Air Force Flight Test center, the Skunk Works, and Area 51. I think that's probably the most famous of them. Right. Not the red box? It'd be funny if it had made like history as like, what was the beautiful heaven place? Oh, Dreamland Resort. Dreamland Resort.

Beautiful Heaven Place. You know what they're doing in there, don't you? Oh, my God. Dreamland Resort. The base is inaccessible to civilians and most military members, but the installation is surrounded by a small but thriving trail of alien-themed museums, restaurants, motels, parades and festivals. I'll talk about a couple of them later. If we ever get to this mythical, it's almost mythical to me now, U.S. tour. I think I'd love to stop by somewhere in this vicinity.

Have one of the juiciest burgers, I feel like, goddamn life. But we'll never tell about it. We swear to God, Uncle Sam. We'll never tell. Your secret safe with us, Uncle Sam. Don't worry about it, Sammy. We'll never tell of the juice. What are the locals?

think about all this alien hoopla? Well, it seems if they're not cashing in with a themed restaurant or something, which a handful of them are, they tend to think it's all nonsense, or at least they play their cards very close to their chest. In his report, Knapp went out and asked locals about their experiences with the UFOs, and I like this interaction, especially. He showed a few, but this one very succinct. Nap, ever see stuff you can't explain? Local, sure. Knapp, care to elaborate, local, no. That's fair. He included that.

I mean, I see stuff I can't explain. Like, I don't exactly understand how electricity works. You know what I mean? But I see power lines. You don't exactly know? I don't really get it. Yeah, I basically get it. I don't know how Wi-Fi work.

I could set most of it up from scratch. No, I don't think I could. No, I was making fun of your phrasing there. What a bitch. I also have no. Yeah, it's fine, whatever. I also have no idea. Yeah, no, I can't wait to hear the rest of your dog shit report.

Great. Yes. Yeah, no, please go on. Jess. Go on. Jess. What? It was men in good fun.

Oh, okay. Jess? Yeah. I love you. Okay. Okay. Dave, I love you. Do go on.

I needed one of the two at least. This is going to be hard to go on. I'm going to try one more time. Jess, I love you. Okay. Dave, I love you. I love you. I love you to go on.

I needed that more than you. No, Dave. Thank you so much. And the fact that you meant it with your whole body? Whole body? Your whole body. I pressed my whole body around this microphone. It was weird.

It felt right. All right. So let's go back a little bit. This site, what was it used before it was known as Area 51? Combs writes, before World War II, the area near Groom Lake was used for silver and lead mining. And once the war began, the government needed a large chunk of desolate land to develop and test nuclear weapons.

Oh. After acquiring 2.9 million acres of land, roughly three times the size of Rhode Island, the Nevada test and training range was born in 1950. Nearly everything within its borders was classified, especially the 1350 square miles of land called the Nevada test site where the Atomic Energy Commission, the AAC, detonated more than 900 nuclear weapons. Oh, there again, they would have counted from 10 to 1 there. Yes, that's true.

What to 0? Let's stop at 1. 10. 900 nuclear weapons, wow. So is that area safe to ever go in again? Yeah, I know. That's where I'm like, maybe some of these alien sightings are just like radio, like a coyote who's like,

Yeah. That's been left there for 70 years. Yeah. It's glowing. This is a little glowing man. Oh, no. It's a wild dog that's been a little too close to a nuclear explosion 900 times. Oh, they'll get to 800.

They're like, surely they'll stop soon. I'm moving otherwise. So Groom Lake is only five miles outside the edge of the Nevada test site and still within the protected Nevada test and training range. Glad it is a dried lake. Imagine it was still like. It's like a lake with, you know, ducks and stuff going through there. It's like basically...

Kayaking. It's a lake, but it is... It's a, you know, it's... It's a crater. It's dirt. It's a crater at this point. That ends right for a groom lake. Dry.

A husk. Of what's for myself. More like barren lake. Just wanted you to give me one child, Jason. It's always Jason's fault. It's not Jason's fault. It's not Jason's fault. He...

Cheryl, it's not Jason's fault. Cheryl, it's not Jason's fault. He was working for his country doing the best he could at a nucleotesting site. Correct. And now his lake is barren. Okay. Put more ways to make a family than just... So his lines aren't seminal.

Okay. Side to speak. Cheryl. Cheryl. Baby. Baby. Sorry, that's a triggering word to you. I know.

Cheryl. Baby. Cheryl He just is triggered by the word Cheryl It triggered me there when he said Sh

So for Vox Alex Ward I don't know if it's the Australian comedian Alex Ward I assume it is And A Romano write That in 1954

President Dwight Eisenhower I don't know much about that guy But what a name What a mug He had a Great mug like that's a noggin head oh not like a coffee mug it actually works in both like seminal wow he's got a bug full of calm

allegedly okay what's wrong with us no I just say chaotic energy come on let's go Dave's going to show us a photo on a second and that's great but he will miss this really interesting half of the paragraph here we go I'll just sit with Ward and Romano two so okay

I mean, that's a good mug. Okay, Dave, he looks like you. Honestly, I was like, yeah, this guy looks like me in a few decades. That's what you're going to look like when you're old. That's why I said, what a mug. Yeah, that is. I love this guy. Stop trying to plant the seed now that you're going to be a hot old man.

You're going to be a weird little freak and that's the best you can hope for. Not true. I'm aging gracefully. But the name Dwight Eisenhower is pretty good. That's really good stuff. So, yeah, he asked for a secret location in which to start a high altitude reconnaissance program. Two CIA staff has embarked on an expedition to find a remote secret location in which to test new spy planes that could see into the Soviet Union's burgeoning nuclear

weapons program, and they soon found what they were looking for at Groom Lake. Coombe continues, or Combe. In 1955, then CIA Director Richard Bizzle Jr. and Lockheed aircraft designer Kelly Johnson selected the secluded airfield at Groom Lake to be their headquarters. The AEC added the base to the map and labelled the site Area 51. Oh. Within eight months, all of this was secret. The government never actually openly acknowledged that this place existed until 2013, I think. Wow.

Really? Yeah. And when you say they label this area, Area 51, are there areas one to 50 in other places? Yeah, I think it was like at that point. They're just divvying up this area. I think that's what it was. It's all, yeah, I believe so. But it's weird.

People talk about it and they go like Arrow 51 and they go, oh, technically there wasn't Area 51. It was over in this other spot. But people also kind of call it the whole area of 51. Oh, okay, yeah. It's become a bit of a catch-all name, I guess. Did he could have just been, whoever was setting it up, there's just 51's their favorite number. Oh, I think that could be possible. That's possible.

That's possible. Yeah. And it sounds like a beautiful place if it's other nickname is what, Heavenly Dreamland. Heavenly Dreamland? The Dreamland. Hotel Beautiful. Hotel Beautiful. Hi, welcome to Hotel Beautiful, checking in.

Of course. We have a wonderful breakfast, but for only $49 per person. Do you think that would be a fun nickname for someone's asshole? Hotel Beautiful. I don't know. I just... Can I be honest? Yes.

I don't think that's a good nickname for an asshole. Hotel Beautiful. I don't know. No, I don't, no, I don't think so. I don't think it is. I don't think it is. Thanks for staying at Hotel Beautiful. Oh, checking out early, I see.

What are you talking to there? It's up to you. Check out early sounds like diarrhea, Dave. Oh, checking out. Oh, I'm back to this. I hope you enjoyed your stay. We've had a late cancellation. What the fuck?

Shut up. Shut up. Hotel Beautiful is a bad nickname for a hot hole. Now, please, do go off. Go, you know, euphemously, I'm feeling constipatiators. No. It looks like they've booked another night at Hotel Beautiful. It's scheduled a late checkout today, so to speak. Hotel Beautiful.

I don't know. AJ will make it work. He will never, he will never cut this. This is the kind of sick stuff that he loves. We'll give him the ingredients and he turns it into it. Like, I feel like we. give AJ a cube of marble and he chips away at it until there's a beautiful David or whatever. Let's explain how it works to the listener at home.

AJ edits these. He sends us through a WhatsApp with all what he calls, what he deems the funny parts that could be potentially videos. And he will write next week's favourites, in brackets, AJ Fave. And I guarantee you he'll have written the time code for this. Hotel beautiful in brackets asshole and then in brackets AJ Fave. Yes. For sure.

A hundred percent. For sure. No. I don't think it was quite clippable. It's only clippable if Jess is on board, because Jess hated it. I think that, that poo-pooed, so to speak, the whole... You poo-pooed it, Jess. I poo-pooed nothing.

Wow, are you a little backed up at the Hotel Beautiful? Extra night, extra night. Hotel bureau, it makes no sense. It makes no sense. No, I don't know why. I thought there might have been a fun riff in it, and there wasn't. And yet, we're still here. Where are we?

They won't let us sleep. We're stuck in the lobby. It's like, bloody Hotel California. Imagine that. We should do a Weird Al style cover of Hotel California. And Weird Al is dressed like a big shit. Welcome to the Hotel Beautiful. No, we wouldn't do it crass like that, Dave.

That was unrelated. Oh, man, we've turned people off today. Big time. I'm so sorry. But we turned a few on as well. I've absolutely turned a few on. James Joyce types. What we're actually trying to do here is we know that there will be some weird alien

obsessives that will download this and criticise us for not acknowledging the truth. So we've made it impossible for them to wade through to avoid any criticism from any alien types Yeah They never get into the nitty gritty They never really get in And get into the weeds

Let me just say If you're an Area 51 expert And you have some feedback On today's episode We will not be looking at it I'd email it to go on pot Atgimal.com When's the last time you checked the emails?

Well I don't check the emails You do And I think I think it's best to do it there Because you can You know You can And please put it into paragraphs

Put your rant in paragraphs Put your rant in paragraphs Yeah, you ran into paragraph so I can delete it easily. Or for it or wrong. Subject, Hotel Beautiful, in brackets, not the butthole. Jazz, can you ford it to me before we delete it? Okay, Matt, do go on. So Combe continues.

Within eight months, engineers at Arrow 51 developed the U2 plane, which could soar at an altitude of 70,000 feet, much higher than any other aircraft at the time. This allowed pilots to fly well above Soviet radar, missiles, and enemy aircraft. It was piloted by Bono. Yeah. Really?

I hadn't heard it. Is that what they're named after? Well, how's this one's belt? You too, like the band. Wow. I always just assumed they were doing a punny night, like a you as well. But I don't know. We'll never know.

We'll never know. There's no way to find that out. After a you two, so they were top of the field for a little bit. but obviously with this sort of stuff the Soviets caught back up and after a U-2 was shot down by, I assume this was, what's the drummer's name, Dave?

Larry Mullen's Jr. Larry Mullen's Jr. I assume it was Larry Mullen's Jr. After a U-choo, you-choo, sorry that was Ritchie Banner. Really big shoe. Really big shoe. After, oh my God, after a U-2 was shot down by a Soviet anti-air missile in 1960, the CIA began

developing the next generation of spy planes. The titanium-bodied A-12. Nearly undetectable to radar, the A-12 could fly across the continental US in 70 minutes at 2,200 miles an hour. Fuck, that's so quick. It's really fast. The plane also was equipped with cameras that could from an altitude of 90,000 feet photograph objects just one foot long on the ground. It's pretty amazing. But that is also a band name up for grabs as far as I can tell.

foot long on the ground. I was thinking A-12, but yes. A-12 sounds more like a paper size. I think you're right. One foot long on the ground is better. I like it. Looks like they're having a subway for lunch. Offle long.

Othol. No, Offul Otug. For short. Gordon and Nap, the SR 71 spy planes that spotted Soviet missiles in Cuba in the early 60s were also developed at Aero 51. This is where self-technology. was nurtured and where all manner of CIA monkey business has been plotted and refined. It's the perfect place for secret things, but of course, that's no secret.

That's great work from now. Great writing. Though amazingly, it was officially a secret till recently, like I was saying, the US government denied the area's very existence right up until 2013, when first the CIA, and then President Obama finally came clean. They talked about it being a place where aircraft was tested. amongst other things but yeah

obviously they still kept the alien part a secret they didn't officially say amongst other things including aliens and was he doing it as like a fun

like hey I'm making jokes about it no he didn't allude to aliens at all oh okay he just said do too do do do do

um yeah so no one no one publicly talked about the aliens at Area 51 or UFOs or anything until Dennis

okay Bob Lazar stepped up up and publicly acknowledged in 1989 that he worked at Area 51 and that alien technology was being tested in the Nevada desert. Before that, there was only speculation. Back to Knapp. The speculation first service in documents obtained by UFO researchers, documents about something called Project Aquarius. The documents allegedly prepared for an organization called MJ12 state that the program to fly recovered alien spacecraft was established in 1972 and is continuing

in Nevada. The National Security Agency has confirmed it does have a Project Aquarius, but denies it has anything to do with flying sources. The NSA will not qualify what Project Aquarius is. They're like, it's not aliens, but we're not telling you what it isn't, yeah. Oh, okay. Warden Romano wrote that in the 80s, rumors of vast Labyrinth Underground, military compounds in the desert began to take shape.

Conspirators, oh, this is wild stuff. Conspiracists like John Lear, a pilot in the air to the Learjet Fortune, spun macabre and bizarre stories about aliens being held and studied in underground camps where the government fed them abducted children and mutilated cattle. In 1987, Lear described Groom Lake Nevada, aka Area 51, as, quote, one of the nation's most secret test centers. Lear alleged the facility had been built with the... the assistance of aliens themselves,

which Lear described as tall specimens he termed greys. Oh. So they're Molder talks in X-Files, right? They're little grey men. Yeah, they usually... Yeah, like... It feels like pop culture stuff. It's like little green men.

But the true believers talk about them as grey men, right? Would that be fair to say, Dave? From what I know from the X-Files. That's also what I'm going on, yeah. What's crazy is the area 51s just on Google Maps now? It's not very secretive. And it is just like, it just looks like desert. Yeah.

But I'll tell you, Lazar talks about how it's, like, the secret sites are hidden into the mountain and stuff as well. So, you know, like they're on, yeah, have a look. But they're magicians. Look over here. But what are they doing with their other hand, you know? Yeah. Apparently, according to that article, it was Lear, that guy with the wild. conspiracy theories.

He was the one who introduced Lazar to journalist George Knapp. Oh, okay. And the Lear guy, he never worked there. He just has money from an aviation fortune. Yes, but the, I mean, the aviation oligarchs, whatever, am I using that word right? They work pretty close with the American government on a lot of these projects. Okay, so he's saying that I have had exposure to this. I imagine he would have been exposed to stuff.

I have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm going to tell you. I'm in way over my head. Okay. Oh, my God. When I started going off script here, and I'm like, Dave, I don't know. I'm so sorry. Just wondering how he knows, but he obviously just knows because he's in the industry.

Yeah, I think so. I think so, because I know like Lockheed worked at Era 51, you know, they're making those sort of spy planes and stuff. Yeah, okay, yeah. So maybe Lear, there's got to be some connection, right? Yeah, they're all making engines and such. Well, just have a look at this behind me. Dave, I've got a cork board set up with red.

string. Oh my gosh. They're all connected. Yeah. Everything's connected to everything. Lear. Yeah. Lazre.

Yeah. Gray's. Grays. Anset. Anatomy. What? Ansett goes under. Because they knew too much.

They knew too much. Yeah. So they take that. Gary Anzett. End up being Australia's, the non-quantous one that went under in, what, 2000 or something? Early 2000s, yeah. Fout airline. But why do they fail?

Because they knew too much. They knew too much. They were getting too. close. Knapp goes on to say speculation was heartened in 1984 when the Air Force sees nearly 90,000 acres around Groom Lake. The action was, by most accounts, illegal. But the Air Force was like, yeah, we're going to be having that.

90,000 acres. Shotgun. Huge, huge, huge, huge chunk land. Did anyone live there? No, it was basically desert. Oh, okay. But there would have been a few ranches around there, I would have thought. during congressional hearings, you know, with mutant cows and stuff like that from all the

new clubboss. Yeah. During congressional hearings about the land grab, land grab. Is that how you say it? That's how sandman says it. Sandman, landgrap. Congressman John Sibling grilled the military about the legal authority use in the action and was told the authority was at, quote, much, much higher level than the Air Force.

Serberling asks, what authority is higher than the laws of the United States? And the Air Force official said he could respond, but only in a closed briefing. He's like, I can answer that. So there is some secret higher authority than the US, the laws of the US, apparently. Okay. Which is like any of those sort of things, and it would probably be behind closed doors. Yeah, this is just another thing. The president's cool with it.

But, or whatever it is. but you go from the outside, you go, wait, what the, what, what? And do you think everyone else is, like, elbowing that guy saying, shut the fuck up? Yeah, don't acknowledge that there's higher stuff? What do you do? Yeah, what are you, yeah, now they just don't answer questions. Much higher than the Air Force. Okay, was that the Space Force?

Like, what is that? Yeah, well, and then he, but he didn't just say the Air Force when he asked the question. He's like, what's a higher authority than the laws of the United States? Yeah. And he's like, I can tell you, but I can't tell you with media or whatever. Yeah. Fascinating. Weird.

But yeah, I imagine it's probably really banal. But maybe it's not. But I mean, it cannot be banal, say there is an authority higher than the laws of the country. Oh yeah, we play by different rules. It's just kind of accepted. It's so strange. In 1987, when the Air Force sought to renew its stranglehold on the groom range,

news articles once again mentioned talk about alien spacecraft. National magazines quoted unnamed sources about things of alien origin. Sources. Unnamed saucers Unnamed flying Tomato, barbecue Oh my gosh Yeah

I imagine that's not As to Americans They're probably not What's two words It sound the same? Homonyms They're probably not even homonyms Sources

I think it's homophone They say flying saucers And we say Saucer Sorser Sorser Sorses All the same to us Yeah

Geez, because we have a beautiful way of just getting it right. Yep. You know what I mean? We get it right first time. Yeah. Every time. Every time. You know how we say stuff?

Oh, how do you pronounce stuff? Correctly. Do you have an accent? No, I'm Australian. Where's your accent from? I don't have an accent. I don't have an accent. What do you mean?

Normal. I've just got the standard. Regular? Default. Standard accent? Yeah. Vanilla? Yeah.

I guess Yeah Okay Plain Yeah I have a plain I have a plain I have a plain normal accent

Sources Sources Which sources are you talking about Sources or Sars mate Come on Come on I'm talking about sources

Sorry but this time They're talking about Unnamed Sources S-O-U-R-C-E-S sources Okay Yep yep yep And what are they saying

Um National magazines Quoted Unnamed Sources About things of alien origin Flying in Nevada things that would make filmmaker George Lucas drool. Oh my gosh. This is good stuff.

That's Naps. That's nap. Yeah. It's probably a lot of things that would make George Leroux. He's got a way with word, nap. Yeah. A way with word. He's got a way with word.

One, one word. What do you think would make George Lucas drool? Some sort of food in a food court or something. I was thinking that, but I mean, in that famous photo, he looks more sad than drooling. Yeah, he's not enjoying that miscellaneous food court. A footmeal? Yeah, maybe, yeah, some other sort of food. Oh, he's like eating it, being this is so dry.

Yeah. Maybe a moist chicken burger. You know what would make him drool? The best goddamn burger of your life. The juiciest, goddamn burger. We can't let anyone know. I'm happy for him to believe in aliens. But never let him know that we got the juiciest goddamn burgers in the world.

When you become a billionaire that let you know about the burgers? Yeah, that's when you... That's how he knows. Yeah. And that's why John Lear, or what. whatever, it's like, he's like, oh, I'll tell them any crazy stories, but they're never going to get their hands on these goddamn juicy. Oh, my gosh.

American beef burgers. I just had a double patty. I was swimming in, it was so bloody juicy. So, there was a bunch of speculation. Nothing went mainstream, though, until Bob. Okay, Dennis. So, Dennis, how you really put Area 51 on the mat? This is when it really...

I thought it was similar to Roswell that this goes back to the 50s, the 60s. People that might, you know, our parents' whole lives have known about Area 51, but really it's pretty recent has become like the mainstream thing that everyone knows. Oh, no, that is. I think he was the one that really gave, like I think, you know, underground people who were into aliens sort of stuff knew about it before. But, yeah, he really made it go big. And, yeah, it's probably not coincidental that this is like the start of the 90s.

And then you think of big 90s shows that were clearly highly influenced, Independence Day, X-Files. Spice Girls. Spice World. They were a little bit weird. Like, I mean, X-Files, literally, they, don't they, he breaks into Area 51 at times. And I think parts of Independence Day is set there. And it is about, you know, they take in these alien spacecrafts and they're working on, trying to reverse engineering.

Right, yeah, yeah. In the ways that Bob Lazar is talking about. Like pop culture, touchstone of the era. after this? I think so, yeah. Um, so Bob Lyser, Bob Lazzar claims he was hard to work at an area called S4 after, and he'll like, they'll go, oh, you were at area 51, Joe Rogner, and he goes, well, S4. It's kind, you know, he's like splitting hairs, but he's like, you know, yeah. S4. He always talks about S4 and he always talks about his mate who was working there with, um, Barry. He's working there with Barry.

Okay. Have we ever heard from Barry? We've never heard from Barry. Oh, no. Not even to confirm that they are friends. Yeah. Oh, brutal. Barry's not answering. He alluded to the fact that he came in to replace a guy that was killed working on the UFO. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Barry alluded or Bob? Barry alluded that to Bob and that's what Bob inferred from Barry, I guess. Yeah. But like I say, it's all very. compartmentalized, I don't know. Anyway, so he gets hooked up with his job vaguely via Ed Teller. Directly, he said his employer was the US Navy. They were the ones who, how he got the job.

And it was very secretive on the way through. He didn't really know what he was doing. Obviously, there's no public record of any of this. At S4, he described a fantastical place with flying sources, antimatter reactors, and other working examples of technology beyond human capabilities, He's saying, as bizarre as that is to believe, it's there. I saw it. I know what the current state of the art is in physics, and what I saw can't be done.

He described getting on a bus to head to S4 with a small group of others. The bus had no windows, or the windows were blocked out, and they traveled down a dirt road. There's skeptics always picking apart things. Like, looking at the maps, there's no dirt road. A bus could travel down. They would need to be a four-wheel drive. sort of off-road vehicle. It's like, alright, maybe the bus is a fucking all-terrain bus.

Yeah, they exist. They're travelling to a UFO place. I reckon they've got the technology that can get a bus over a fucking... Oh, but their maps don't have that road on there. Oh, you don't fucking reckon. Yeah, I reckon. A secret place has secret roads. What the fuck?

Come on. I've been looking for it at something marked secret bus road. I haven't seen anywhere. Can't find anything. Like, honestly, guys. They're supposed to be smart. open your eyes and I'm talking all three if you can yeah yeah dream hotel hotel beautiful hotel beautiful hotel beautiful open it up open it up uh beautiful hotel beautiful

beautiful hotel beautiful is open for business yeah bleached ready to go freshly bleached and ready to go cleaners come in every morning like clockwork like clockwork uh it made no sense I don't know Well, I'm like, I'll throw a little nugget out here. Oh, don't say nugget. This will start something. And it didn't. I would tell you. They're like, there's a swings and misses.

I would argue it did start something. Well, it started a negative thing. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I wanted to start a positive thing we all had fun with. Yeah. But I started a thing that made you feel less good about being here. That's right.

And that's not what I was intending. Okay. You didn't want to taint all the block. Very good, Dave. Didn't want to, yeah, pone or. or taint, Kevin Smith, quote. So, he's on this bus, windowless,

dirt road. It's impossible, but anyway, I'll go with the story. Yeah. Even front windows has a driver's scene. Yeah. He said, when you get... No, sky lot?

What? What? And this isn't at a time before, smartphones. How dull would it be? Bore. You'd be so bored. They must have one of those little TVs he used to have on buses that everyone else to watch.

Yes. Like when I was on Year 11 camp and everyone voted to watch the Jackass movie. Wow. The bus driver pulled over within 10 minutes and said, you have to get this off. Oh, it was too distracting. He was like, he was laughing too hard.

The bus driver? The bus driver would not. He was like, that's Steve her guy. The teachers were okay with it, but the bus driver, I'm overruling. Basically, I'm using the bus driver's one black ball. He was, um, yeah, basically. He didn't literally ever.

I remember we watched Dirty Dancing and something else. The bus driver said, get that shit off. Get that shit off. He's like, he's wiping tears and he's like, nobody puts baby in the corner. It's an emotional banger, isn't it? Sure. I've had the time of my life.

I mean, the thing I know about it best is that it's referenced in dirty, sexy love or whatever. Crazy stupid love. Crazy stupid love. Dirty sexy love. That's what you get. That's what you get at Hotel Beautiful. You've got to pay extra. So this is him describing getting off the bus.

Okay. When you get off the bus, you see a very interesting building. It has a slope of about 30 degrees, like hangar doors, and textured paint to look like the side of a mountain, maybe to disguise it from satellite photographs. It's like it's all blended in. Right. It looks like a mountain, okay. Yeah, and it's sort of like tucked into the side of a mountain.

Love that. This is secret S4, even secret four area 51, you know. Yeah. He didn't know exactly what he'd be working on, but assumed it would be to do with advanced propulsion. On his first day, though, he was told to read briefings and he realized how advanced this propulsion would be. So he's going to have a rocket car all the way to rocket ship?

This is beyond that, mate. What's beyond a rocket ship? Well, that's what they still can't get there. Like, he'll still talk about it occasionally. He doesn't come out publicly a lot. But he's like, I imagine they're probably still working on this thing. And they just haven't, they still haven't been able to figure it out. Anyway, he said, the power source is an antimatter reactor.

They run gravity amplifiers. This stuff will make sense to me. There's two parts to the drive mechanism. It's bizarre technology. No physical hookup between the systems. They use gravity as a wave, using waveguides, almost like microwaves. You know what I mean? Totally.

Almost up microves. Almost. On high for 60 seconds. Yeah. No. Yeah. Just give it a stir. Another 30.

Your back bins are done. He said he didn't get to see a real disc for a while. But there were posters of them all over the walls with the captions, they're here. These were like these smooth, the classic, like quite a classic design. A flying saucer. Flying saucer that you think of. And there's posters that say, they're here. They're here, which is a bit odd.

He called those ones the sports model. Having a bit of fun, man. Oh, la-di-da. Convertible. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, it took him a while before he actually saw a real one. I guess, you know, they had to make sure he was up to it. He had to pass probation.

He said he only had worked there for about six months in total. This is him describing first seeing the real thing. When I was let in, that was the first time I saw the sport model in the hangar. They walked me right past it I ran my hand along it Apparently got quickly reprimanded Like, whoa, don't touch it It's an alien thing

Yeah, you don't touch that So I just jump in and go ooh Oh, put my hand inside this Oh, I've lost it He said later I got to see it Lift off the ground and operate The hangers are all connected There were nine total that I saw

Each one different Nine different UFOs Like an assortment pack he said This was like he's in the showroom And they just had one of each he's got away with the words the sport's moment putting it in terms of you understand

I tell you what is he related to Lazar Vidivik all this use car salesman stuff you might be thinking if this was all true it must have been near impossible

to keep it a secret when the news anchor put this to the reporter like Naps brought this story in and the reporter's like surely like a story this big how do they keep it a secret Yeah, with, like, presumably hundreds, if not thousands of people working on.

Yeah, how is he the first person to speak about it? Knapp replied, it would seem that way, except as Lazar's superiors told him, it's the easiest secret in the world to keep. It's been leaked out many times, and nobody believes it. It's just sort of saying, like, you sound crazy if you leak it, so people don't want to sound crazy, so they, you know. Lazzar suggests another reason the secret hadn't gotten out in a big way, and that's because the security at S-4 was so oppressive, saying,

they did everything but physically hurt me they had guards with m16s guys shoving fingers into my chest screaming in my ear pointing weapons at me it's not a good place to work that sounds like a nightmare yeah uh no i mean but he also says it was it was a great place to work i was working with the ufos so which is it yeah i think the work was great the environment but the environment yeah very clicky yeah very clicky yeah uh been there Knapp had laser put through a bunch of polygraph tests, which we now, like in 89, I guess they still believe in them a bit. Now we know they're kind of nonsense or easily, like, very easily beaten or whatever.

They went through four different examiners and two of them had great names. Ron Slay and Terry Tavenetti. I mean, Slay wins that one, yeah. Ron Slay, that's a good D&D, then we should write that down. The results proved to be a mixed bag of the four. examiners. The first was inconclusive. That was Ronsley. The second, Terry Tavernetti, concluded, I think that's really good. It's up there for me with, like... Terry England. Well, Terry England's really good, but you ever come across, like, on country

radio stations, maybe a.m. It's a guy called Tony Tardio. I think it's one of the great ones. That's a really good name. Tony Tardio with the news. That's amazing. That's amazing. Anyway, yeah, Terry Tavanetti concluded there was no attempt to deceive. and Eddie left going, I reckon there's something here, I believe him. The third examiner agreed that there was, that he probably wasn't trying to achieve, but the fourth disagree, said, no, he's lying. So a real mixed bag, four tests, and it's like, eh. And that's before you remember that these things are kind of some version of nonsense.

A little bit bogus. Yeah. After the test, Lazar said, I'm telling the truth. I've tried to prove it. What's going up there could be the most important. important event in history. You're talking about physical contact and proof from another system, another planet, another intelligence. That's the biggest event in history, period, and it's real, it's there. I had an extremely small part in it, but I'm convinced what I saw is absolute proof.

There's no way we could have created these systems, the disks, the power supplies, anything. So yeah, he's very adamant, obviously. And his story hasn't really changed in, what, 40 or whatever years it's been. Something that helped add credibility to his claims were regular reports of strange lights moving over the test site. So people like this area, people around see these lights buzzing around moving at crazy speeds going up and down and across. Doubting Thomases tend to say that these were just new military aircrafts being tested.

As we now know, officially, that it has for a long time been a test site for military. Well, I can't it be both? It's new military, yeah. Technology based on alien stuff. Exactly. It could be both. And also, what a great cover story is what probably true believers might suggest. Yes.

Yeah, yeah, there's no more perfect cover story than, yeah, and we're testing weird planes out there, that's all. Yeah, but they're just regular, human planes. Yeah, it's based on humans. We've got the best engineers on Earth. Yeah. We get people from newspapers who made rocket cars and all sorts of stuff. Comrade, some of the Lazars claims were unquestionably correct. Engineers at Area 51 were studying and recreating advanced aircraft,

just aircraft likely acquired from other countries, not from outer space. So I guess that there's a possibility that he is telling the truth on everything, somehow did get this job, but just mistook. Oh, they were pulling apart Russian stuff. Maybe, but, you know. We do have to remember he's actually not a trained rocket scientist, is he? No, he seems to be self-taught, but he still says that he did study and they've wiped his records. Right.

Which, and I did get into a few Reddit threads. Always good. With people to and fro on about it. And the skeptics are like, I can understand erasing some of the stuff about your education. But how do you erase it all to the point that no one, you're there with hundreds of people. There's so many photos, the yearbooks, and there's... And he hasn't been able to... His parents have photos of him on his rocket bike,

but nothing from graduation day or... There's the government knocked on the door of every classmate and said, you don't know this man. Yeah. You never knew this man. Well, it could be men in black zapper things. Oh, okay, great, I forgot about the men in black. Maybe they organized the reunion.

Oh, they zapped them all. They just zapped them all at once. Got to zap them all. That's good. Maybe that's where they comes from. And they invited his parents. two, they zapped them. Yeah, yeah, they zapped them all.

They're zapped them all. Yeah. Need to say more, they zapter more? They're going to say more, they zapped them all. Get in that Reddit forum and just write, they zaped them more. Yeah, full stop. But I don't do a full stop, I say full stop. Yeah.

In caps. I mean, but that is, that is the, you know, the most obvious story is that they are testing real aircraft there. With all the high-tech flights out of area 51, including more than 2,850 takeoffs by the A-12, ports of unidentified flying objects skyrocketed in the area. The aircraft's titanium body, moving as fast as a bullet, would reflect the sun's rays in a way that could make anyone think UFO. This is what sources told journalist Annie Jacobson for a 2011 book on Area 51. I'm going to reference a fantastical story from her book as soon.

Strap yourself in. Warden Romano wrote, Once you start thinking about the specifics of Area 51's purpose, its connection to alien law becomes clear. Remember, it's not just a mysterious military training compound. Arrow 51 is also a place devoted to tactical air maneuvers and counterintelligence, and it's right next to a nuclear testing site. What kinds of things commonly get mistaken for UFOs?

Stealth bombers, drones, military decoy flares, weapons tests, military training exercises, and weird classified air stuff. What does Area 51 have a lot of? All of the above. Which word that I said decoy Instead of decoy But that's how I say it I agree, yeah

Yeah, I've always said decoy Yep, we were willing to let it go How did you know that? I can say out the corner of my other You got you You swallowed a Oh dear You're like

Oh, Jess was like We've got no time You were just like granddad Oh, he's done it again But that's so right They're the things that are likely to be Mistaken by the by a person on the ground without any sort of military training or aircraft training.

You're like, what the, I would be the same. Oh, 100%. Sometimes I have it at night. I'm like, I think that's a helicopter or whatever, when it's just the light or a plane moving, be like, I don't know. Yeah. Is that a satellite?

Take it back to the 80s. And everyone was dumb back then. Well, you just, there was just less access to information back then. You're dumb. You're a thicky. You're not getting instant updates online about the... You're a thicky. You're a thicky.

Yeah, but now we know the truth. You know, we can get it straight from the... You can do your own research now. Chunky, yeah, chunky. It's chunky, um, is that in the, in the same world as people who say doggo and, uh, maizeballs? Chunky, chunky. Chunky. Is that, is that, is that cringe millennial?

Yeah. Not us, of course. No, no, I, well, I think that's the thing about, uh, every generation who has their cringe things, most of the people inside that generation also found those things cringy at the time. Yeah. Like I imagine there's a lot of kids now going, this six, seven thing fucking sucks. Yeah.

But, you know, just fucking live, guys. Yeah. Just live. Oh my God, live. I totally agree. Six, seven. So. That was cool.

Thank you. That was actually really cool. Do you want to kiss? Yeah. That would be amaze balls. Do you want a kiss? That's very funny. You had me a do you want to.

I was going to say yes or whatever you're going. You're a bit like my dog if I say, do you want to go? His little head goes, uh, uh, uh, he's like, probably wherever you're about to say. Where are we talking about? We're talking park? We're talking beautiful place? Yeah. Hotel beautiful?

No. Welcome to the hotel, beautiful. It's a butthole. Does he say it's a lonely place? That makes sense. It's a lonely place. It's a lonely place. Speak for your own butthole.

It's a butt hole. What do you got? It's not a studio setup. Oh, four beds and a pool. More of a B&B type. Yeah, full garden, random. Gorgeous. Oh, it's gorgeous.

Fantastic. Did you break out on the porch? We've made it impossible for age head editor now. No, he will if he wants to. I believe you. I don't have killed one too. By this stage, he will have made a decision. If he's edited out at that other bit,

I just edit out this bit as well. Yeah, okay, great. All right, so let's put all that sort of scully kind of skeptical thinking to one side. The boring naysayers, the people with a closed mind, you know? I'm sick of them. Don't you reckon it's that kind of thing that is, people who want to believe in it, they're like, yeah, obviously they're saying that it's a military aircraft testing facility. What a perfect cover story.

And people on the other side saying, yeah, obviously they think they're UFOs. It's, you know, it looks like that. it's obviously just... Yeah, it's the perfect real story. Yeah, we'll put that to one side. For Vice, Tim McMillan writes, Lazar eventually claimed that while at Area 51, his job was to reverse engineer an alien material called Element 115

that he claimed was used to power an alien spacecraft. Lazar has reportedly hinted that he took a piece of Element 115 from Area 51 and that this element is of great interest to the federal government, to the point that they've been, you know, trying to get it off him. Trying to get it back. And is Element 115, is that an element? Well, it wasn't when he came up with it. Yeah, it's since been named.

Named, has it? Yeah, it was found a decade or so later after he brought it up. How Stuff Works, writes, in 2003 Element 115, a synthetic radioactive element was discovered by Russian scientists. It was added to the periodic table in 2013. However, this element also called Moscovium doesn't seem to have the capability to power alien spacecraft, as Lazar suggested. So far, no use has been found for Moscovium, which has a half-life of less than a second, and thus decays very quickly. Basically, it dissipates, it's gone.

It's not stable at all. Well, with our technology. Yes, exactly. And that's what he says. he's like, he says it's impossible to synthesize an element that heavy here on earth. The substance has to come from a place where super heavy elements could have been produced naturally. He claimed that the US government had collected 500 pounds of the stuff from a recovered UFO.

He's like, you couldn't make it here. It would have to come from another galaxy or another. And he's got a bit of it. Well, he's never said outright, but he's alluded to the fact that he's taken a little bit. and apparently the government want it back. He's made no secret about where he is. No. In 2017, Lazar suggested that it's just the synthetic version that isn't up to the job.

Interviewed by Las Vegas now, Lazar said, it has to come from someplace where it's natural, like from a supernova. In other words, it needs to come from a solar system other than ours. Lazar's critics say the fact that 115 is unstable and fleeting proves Lazar is a liar. Lazar says the first batch was only a starting point and that he will be proven right in the long run. I'd like to see them continue to work and produce different isotopes of 1-1-5

because they're going to come up with a handful of different varieties and they're going to come up with a stable isotope and that's what we're interested in he counted. He's like, he's just got to keep working on it. You know, you've failed once, don't give up. Yeah. Come on, guys. Come on.

Everyone have a go. So he sort of said in one part, which was years earlier, I think, We can't make it here. It just won't work. You've got to get it from outer space. And then he's sort of saying, keep working on. I reckon you could probably do it.

We'll figure it out. Technology has come on a bit. In the years since he went public in 89, Lazar was arrested for aiding and abetting a prostitution ring. A charge that was later reduced to what is felony pandering, to which he admitted guilt. I couldn't figure out what any of that meant. But anyway, he had to do some community service.

And, you know, is this the kind of thing? that the government would try to muddy his name with. Oh, okay. Now we all know he's a felony panderer. I don't know, yeah. I don't know. No, I think he actually did whatever that was. Since then, he largely returned to private life.

In 1998, he opened a business called United Nuclear Scientific, a scientific supplies and equipment store based in New Mexico, which then moved to Michigan, and now is in Oregon. Okay. He loves to travel. Supply nuclear material? Yeah, they supply full. on stuff and they have an online store.

The website, I mean, they've got a gift shop. Look up the website. It's hectic. Yeah, they sell numerous stuff. There's different categories and it is a website that looks like it was designed around 1989. That's exactly what I'm imagining. Categories include uranium ore,

radioactive stuff and t-shirts. On the site, there is also an Aero 51 section where you can buy t-shirts, mug, signs and even personally signed drawings of the sports model, UFO, by Lazar himself. He's pencil drawn it, and then I think they're prints, and then he personally signs them. Only 149, USD, a pop. Should we get one for the office?

Yes. I agree. We're all in on this? I would like one, very much so. Great. And should we get any nuclear stuff? Yeah. Just while we're there.

Yeah. It probably ends up being less shipping if we just... Yeah, I think so. Yeah, do it all in one. You're right, you're right, you're right. In 2017, the business was raided by the FBI and police in relation to a murder investigation. Okay. At least that's what they say.

Macmillan writes, Lazzar and his followers have found this to be very suspicious and have theorized that the FBI was attempting to recover samples of the element 115 that Lizar took from Area 51. Conspiracy theorists suggest that Lizar was under government surveillance and that this is the latest in a decades-long harassment campaign against Lizar by the Fed. heads. The official story, though, is that the raid was linked to a murder investigation with the poison in the murder, thought to have been bought through his store. And the FBI reports that their reports say that Lazar cooperated fully. So supposedly it was, like, he'd onsold this, apparently there's a collector's like the periodic table. There are people who collect it and try and collect an element of each. Oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah, and one of those elements is like this, like, sort of odourless, you know, very good.

Apparently it's called The Poison is Poison. Right. And it was one of the elements. Oh. And someone bought that and used that to poison their partner or something. And he's just thinking they're element collectors. Yeah. You know, who can you trust anymore?

That's sad. In later interviews, Lazar suggested that perhaps the raid in general was legit, but there were two guys there. who seemed to be almost doing their own investigation. A lot of the teams seem to just be on the murder investigation. There are two guys asking a lot of questions. I was wearing a deer stalker hat. Seeming irrelevant.

Magnifying glass. Well, mate, I'm picturing men in black guys. But they were FBI suited guys. Maybe deer stalk hat, magnifying glass. But they were asking questions about 1-15. Lazzar said, did these two initiate the raid? Or were they just ride alongs with an existing raid? That I don't know, but it was clear they knew much more than the rest of the crew downstairs.

Men in black, they're in there. He's thinking, well, they're onto me. They're trying to, they're pretending they're here for someone else, but it's just a bullshit excuse. You get inside. The HQ. McMillan writes, oddly enough, this isn't the first time Bob Lazar and the sale of deadly toxins have come up. In 2006, several news outlets accused Lazare of peddling poison, after he was found to be selling the same radioactive poison

used to kill former KGB spy Alexander Litvenko. Oh, who we did a topic on? Now, Dave, can you say the name? Alexander... Is it Lit Vienko? Lit Vienko, thank you very much. What was that topic? That was live in Sydney.

We did conspiracy theories. And he was murdered in London when they put like a... That's right. Like a polonium or something in his tea at a expensive hotel in London. And I just want to check at this Sydney live show. Was I there? You were there.

Matt did Blucifer, and you did Flat Earth, I believe. This was at the giant dwarf. I found a mini report on Flat Earth. I think so. Is that really about for you? Yeah. Was it that or Australia is a myth? No, it was Flat Earth, wasn't it?

What the fuck? I think so. I kind of made the mistake of doing quite a serious one, like a government conspiracy sort of one, but you guys did both did funny ones, which was a much better choice for a live audience. But I think that's also. That's what, that's the yin and yang you want. Most of our audience isn't in the room as well. You got to remember.

That's right. That's right. It was 2018. Yeah. I'm not beating myself up for forgetting that one. But yeah, I did the flat earth conspiracy theory. The giant dwarf. What in the actual fuck?

I think that Dave doing a bit of a dull one. That's what people want that from Dave. Oh, I do remember the idea of there being an ice wall. Yeah, that's right. The thing I came to mind as well. Why don't you just fall to the edge? Ice wall. Um, next stupid question, please.

Wow. So, anyway, he's selling the same stuff. I imagine that that stuff is highly illegal to get. I would have thought so. It's incredibly deadly. Yeah. And for what purpose do you need it? And this is at the time, McMillan rights, at the time his website assured customers they would quote, run no risk of being tipped off to the US Department of Homeland Security.

That's an incredibly dodgy guarantee, isn't it? Hey, don't worry, the feds can't read this. Yeah. They don't even have the internet. It's a, yeah, I feel like that's, it's all very, like, the website is very sort of winky and, yeah. Yeah, it's very strange. Don't worry about it.

You know, like, what are the radioactive stuff being a section that you can purchase from is like, oh, you're being very funnily sort of casual about it, which I assume is on purpose, you know, they're having a bit of fun. Right, but it has got him into trouble. Yeah, I've got him some bad press and stuff. They said that. Yeah. This sounds like another frame-up to me.

Exactly. I mean, I'm just selling highly illegal stuff here. What is the crime? What I assume is highly, I don't know. Maybe it's not, I don't know, if you're able to. It's a land of the fruit. It's such dangerous material. I don't know.

When McMillan asked Lazar, he said he wouldn't directly comment on whether or not he has a piece of element 115, the legit alien one from era 51. Not the shitty Moscovium we make. No, he's like, I'm not saying either way. Yeah. Quote, after 30 years, I'm a bit tired of constantly defending myself and I have no intention to continue it. Finally, when pushed off. I admit it.

I lied. Imagine. Well, that would make everyone stop asking you about it. Actually, people keep asking. Even if you, like, if it's true, you go, it's just easier to tell people that I made it up now. I'm just bored. Yeah.

But, yeah, he does, like, he talks about, like, regret coming, regret sometimes coming clean about it all. He's like, it's ruined my laugh in a lot of ways. Has he sold lots of books or anything? Has he sold books and some people, like, Like, he hasn't cashed in anywhere near as much as he could have. Like, he's not constantly touring and stuff, which he, like, in that world, he is, like, a superstar of the alien.

He could, like, do, like, conventions and stuff. I mean, he does sell, signed pictures for $149. Which we've got for the office? Yeah. I mean, we also sign posters at shows and stuff and sell those. No, I mean. Who are we to judge? I'm not judging, but, I mean, is everything we've done based on a,

The people are saying he's all based on a lie, and that's why he's done it. Yeah, of course it is. You think the three of us are friends? Yes. K-fabe. Oh. K-fabe, babe. K-babe.

Do you remember that? We learned about K-fabe in an episode about the Montreal screw job. Yes. I remember, don't ask me any other questions. Okay. So, after 30 years, he was tired of constantly defending it. But finally, when pushed on whether he might one day reveal a sample of Element 115, thereby proving his claims beyond reproach.

He's like, if he supposedly has it, he's never said he has it, but he's alluded to that he probably has it. And if you did, it would be proof. Yes. This is what Lazard told McMillan, when McMillan asked him out, he said, if I had some, would I reveal it to confirm my accounts? I like putting the question back.

I love that, yes, very powerful. Very, back in uni days, you're patterning out the word counter. Let me just get this straight. You're asking, if I, if I, well one day, thinking, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, if I, if I had some, would I reveal it to my, to confirm my accounts? Absolutely not. His interviews, this interview was over. Yeah, he's like, would I, hypothetically? No. Meaning, if I did hypothetically have it, I wouldn't tell you. I wouldn't even tell you if I did. Right, so if the government's still interested, just drop it, because I'm not even going to bother.

Yeah. If I had it. Yes. Which I'm not saying I do. Which I'm not saying I don't. His interviews with Vice were published a few months after Lazar appeared on the Joe Rogan experience. This is all in 2019, which brought him right back into the public eye. It's a two-hour chat, if you're interested. And Bob talks a lot about his co-worker Barry, like we're talking about. Yeah. If it wasn't for so many holes being found in his supposed education, et cetera,

he is a pretty believable-seeming guy. Like, I just watched him talk. I'm like, if he was talking about something else that wasn't dicey and, you know, a bit blurry, and I'd be like, yeah, this guy's an expert in whatever he's talking about. Yeah. I get it. But maybe that's because I do want to believe. I'm much like Dave.

And, yes? Yeah. Nah. You don't really want to believe that there are aliens. I don't give a shit. Yeah, you don't care to believe. Yeah, I don't care to be proven. I don't care.

Leave me alone. If there was like, if there was a press conference today and Donald Trump or whoever the president is at the time that people are listening, comes out and goes, I've just had a great meeting. Here is Squashmore, a little grey fella from Shmababalob. And, yeah, he wants to chat to you. And there's Shmishmob says, greetings earthlings, check this out. And he does a backflip or whatever. That would be so sad.

You wouldn't, like, you wouldn't care? Would you watch the video, or do you scroll on? I'd probably scroll on. I'd watch for 10 seconds and get bored. I'd also think it was not true. Right. I'd be like, well, this is fucking fake somehow. I've also seen Simone Biles do like four backflips, so whatever.

Yeah, way more impressive. Yes. I believe in women. I don't believe in aliens. Maybe Trump would be the right guy because he has worked with Miss Universe a lot. So I think, you know, he would be in a good position to. Yeah. And if he was to hype up an alien, what would that sound like?

One of the best, one of the best aliens I've ever come across. Super alien. Sorry, not the alien. Gotta tell you. Gotta tell you, one of the great aliens. Not the alien, do Trump now. One of the great aliens, I'll tell you that. One of the real great aliens.

And tell you, we're looking into, and I'm telling you, we're looking at one of the best. I'm so glad I'm not going to the US at a couple of weeks' time, as I was supposed to be. Oh, do you think that would? I think, yeah. Well, the good thing about my Trump impersonation is, no one can tell it's a Trump impersonation. It's hiding in plain sight. Honestly, it sounds like there was the alien talking about itself in third person. It really depends on who it is, doesn't it?

because if it was Trump being like, he's an alien, I'd be like, what are you trying to cover up now? Yeah, yeah. You know? Right. But, I don't know if it was my mum. No, I'd be like, mum, you've been scammed. You've been scammed online.

You've fallen for a scam. Yeah, mom, it's AI. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry to tell you. Who are you, probably Dave? No. Yeah, maybe Dave, but I'd also be like, where are the cameras?

Like, Dave's pranking. If I introduce you to an alien. Because Dave's known for prank. That's what people don't know. Oh, my God. He's Australia's Ashton Coochard of this podcast, that's for sure. Like, I go everywhere with a film crew as well, just in case. Exactly.

But instead of saying punk, he says, zoinked. It's really cool. It's really cool. It hasn't caught on, but it's really cool. It's very cool. Maybe if you told me. Yeah. I think you're the only person I can trust.

Yeah. But otherwise, yeah. Because I don't like pranking. It makes me feel uncomfortable. Yeah. I don't like making people. Find it hard to watch those sort of shows. Thanks for your support.

I'd just find it hard to watch those kinds of shows, Dave. What about zoinked? Yeah. That's what he said. He's saying. He's saying you hate zoinct. You find it hard. Zoynt with David Warnigiel. I've tried because you're my friend.

Thank you so much. But it is hard. I hate watching you make people look foolish. And also like, honestly, Dave, a lot of your show is actually just like theft. And dacking people. You keep financially ruining and then assaulting people. Yeah. And you don't even blur out the crotches.

Yeah. I'm just putting people's junk online. I blew everything else out. Yeah, well, that's true. It's unidentifiable unless you know that junk. I just thought you were mainly dacking blurry people. You only blur them off your dack. He's showing the full Hotel Beautiful.

Yeah. They're blurry, much like Dennis at the start of this episode. You can come whenever you want, but you can never leave. Hotel Beautiful. You've been zoinked. Okay. If you say a funny catchphrase and then... It does soften it a bit.

That softens it. Yeah. I think Hotel Beautiful, with like a nice sunny 80s, motif could be a great t-shirt. Oh my gosh, we should make Hotel Beautiful t-shirts. And obviously, if you're wearing it, you know. But otherwise, it just looks like a cool t-shirt. You say at a Hotel Beautiful, and we should say it's in New Mexico.

Hotel Beautiful, New Mexico. The good thing about this, this is, for a little while we've been recording well ahead, but this is coming out this week. We're actually going to remember this riff when if people bring it up. If you want a Hotel Beautiful shirt, you have to let us know, because we won't make it unless there's demand. Yeah, and if you design it, that'd be good. We're not artists.

Not AI. Not AI. Not AI. We don't want any slop. I want like 90s sort of bright block colours kind of thing. And you're going to pay the artists, so Jess. Is that right? Yeah.

Yeah, if we pick the design, we'll pay you. Well, yeah, don't design until it's getting contact. Maybe show us the portfolio. That's right. We'll see. What are we talking about? I don't know. We're now talking about merch for this riff we regret.

I hate this riff. What's happening? Now, we can't get rid of it because we've got merch about it. No. What are we doing? So now I have to get on board with Hotel Beautiful. Hotel Beautiful. It's so stupid.

It's so dumb. We've likened it to diarrhea at what point. What about a t-shirt that says I survived my state at Hotel Beautiful? Now that's good stuff. I would wear the shit out of that. Should we change the name of the show to Hotel Beautiful? Oh, yes. Ten years, it's time for a change.

Can we've been? Come on. And then like, let's not do these fucking reports anymore. Yeah, we just talk. What do we just talk about? Who gets? It's assholes. We don't know whatever we want.

We can do ass all of the week. There's so many podcasts that just talk shit. We could just do that. Yes. You know how we get here and we talk for about an hour and then we start recording? That could be it. We could be going home when we normally start the podcast. We could be going home before midday.

That would be fantastic. We do talk a lot before. Too much. We're doing a bit of that on the show this week. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Back to it.

I think it's mainly because new listeners coming in for a big topic. We want to show them the real house. We want to show them the full hold. It's all beautiful. We want to get legs akimbo. Check out how beautiful. our hotel is. We want to show them how good we are at what we do. And so I think we've really demonstrated that today. Yeah, we're going to show you the floor of what our bad this can be.

Yes. This is a low point. Yes. If you can handle this, there's some really good episodes out there for you. Yeah, I love them. Can't think of any to name. No, and you'll think it's three different performers, but somehow it is us. Yeah. Dave's just out of the hotel. Dave's checking out. Dave's checking out in all meanings of the word. So what are we talking about? I don't know. I don't know.

I don't care anymore. We're talking about, we're talking about Bob Lazar. Yes. And he was asked by Joe Rogan himself. Yes. If he was still in contact with Barry. And Bob said, quote, I wish I was.

I kind of thought he was going to come out publicly after I did in 89 and then I think I took too much flack and it would have discouraged him. What about the fact that the guy before Barry was murdered apparently? No, not murdered. I think it was just like he... Just killed. On the job. No, he was trying to open up the power source or something and it just like...

He exploded. Yeah, it exploded him. Oh, okay. I'm imagining it like the Tesseract. Yeah, I think it's something like that. Probably inspired by. What's that mean? From the Avengers.

Oh. It's a very, it's a power source. It's the blue... It's a blue cube. It's a blue cube. Blue cube. A big alien wombat probably shattered out. Yeah.

After a blue heaven milkshake. Yeah, we've all been there. I don't even know heaven milkshake. So, yeah, he was asked. He was asked. He was asked. Yeah, I believe. I know, that's also I was going to say.

That's a homophone as well. So he's asked if he's still in contact. He's like, no, I thought he was going to come out, but he was probably discouraged because I cop so much flat. He's like, Barry, I'll go first, I'll go first, I'll go first. It's aliens. And Barry's like, oh, my God. He looks.

I'm good. Everyone's talking about him like he's lost it. Yeah. But yeah, he spins it like, he's like, I think I actually helped the security of the place because no one really wanted to come out and talk after I was made such a public fool. I was a pariah. Um, that episode of, uh, Joe Rogan, as of this week, has over 65 million views. What?

Uh, he, he was appearing to promote the documentary film Bob Lazar, Area 51 and Flying Sources, which is narrated by Mickey Rourke. Uh, it was out on Netflix, but it's now out on a streaming platform I'd not heard of. But if you, you know, if you want to watch it, it's out there. It's on broadcast. Um, it is like, porn hub. It is hard to get. pretty hard to get. Well, it's hard for me to get through. Mickey Rourke is...

Oh, you were watched... You gave a go. I could watch about 20 minutes of it. But, yeah, it's been pretty harshly judged by critics. Got a 20% splat rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Out of... Out of the full hundred, I'm afraid. Really?

God, that's bad. And when you say, you sort of made a gesture at Mickey Rourke, is he on screen? No, he's no rating. Oh, okay, but it's not easy to listen to. Well, it's just like, you know, what I would call pseudo-interesting. intellectual sort of nonsense. Oh, but maybe it probably is just over my head is what's true.

I should have been listening with my third eye. You were also very sick. I was also pretty, I was honestly watching it during while I was having vivid nightmares every night. Yeah. And it felt like I was watching a nightmare. Yeah. So I probably, if I was healthier in the brain at the time,

might have enjoyed it more. Yeah. Because Mickey Rock, what a voice. Yeah. There was more love from. The viewers on Rotten Tomatoes giving it a 45% approval rating. Out of... Again, the full 100, I'm a phrase.

That's twice as good. One audience review made this very strong point. And it hurts me to say it, but it is... You're stupid if you don't like this film. Oh, my God. And you turned it off. It was really hard to hear that, yeah. But, you know...

But at least like... The truth is out. The truth is out there. Well, it might be. You don't know. I think it's very brave of you to... to address that. Yeah.

Yeah. I admit that. Most people would have just bluff, they went, oh, I loved it. As soon as I saw that review, I knew, I was going to love it. Yeah, but you chose truth, and I think that's very brave.

I think that's pretty much the, I mean, the story is by no means over. But that's kind of the end of the Lazar part of the episode. What do you, what are you guys, what's your vibe on him? Does he ever get the nickname Bazaar? Oh my God. Does that happen?

Like, spooky molder. Yeah. It's got to happen. Not that I know of, but it must have. Do you think he's just like fully... Do you think DeKovny probably read into him? Almost definitely, right? Oh, he would, yeah, for sure.

And the character Mulder would be a big fan of this. Like his famous poster, isn't that a UFO? It sounds very similar to the It's Here posters around Eric 51. Yeah, it made me think of that poster for sure. I'm one... It's interesting that you say that over his life, it doesn't... You said, you noted a few times, his story has... change. That's what they say. It seems a bit like a lot of people who have things like this

and then go, and then this happened. Yeah. And then there's this and it's like, well, you haven't worked there in 36 years. How do you know? But he has, it seems to, the timeline is adding up. Apparently, I mean, I haven't listened to all the interviews, but that does seem to be the case. But that would be a big criticism of a lot of people like this, that they're like free balling and they're writing a novel. And then this and also this. During the part of what I saw on the Joe Rogan interview, there were time, he was saying he had a migraine that day and he was saying how he's like, I'm sorry, I've lost my place and he, he gets, like, his brain freezes up a bit and stuff like that.

You know, people who agree with him will say, well, that's proof of something. And people who disagree with say, oh, yeah, he's pausing to try and think of his lies, you know, these things, if you believe, you're going to believe. And if you don't, you know. But it seems like it's probably nonsense, but still, it's, I think it's fun. Yeah. What do you think? I don't care.

Yep. Yes, I think you will care about. Yeah, I do want to believe. That's all I'm going to say. I'm open. I'm open to Liza. I'm open, but I just don't care. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, if you're like, here's proof of aliens, I'll be like, well, that's crazy. Yeah, it's funny. To me, I'd be pretty excited. I think the thing that would really spark me up is if there was proof of ghosts and stuff. Because that means we have life after. life yeah but then i just all i'd be thinking about is are they watching me get changed

is there a ghost in the bathroom while i'm showering yes but that that is you caring about it right whereas aliens you're like i don't care it doesn't mean anything to me ghosts you're now thinking about every day you're starting to wear like bikinis in the shower yeah so you're never known ghost poves poofs i always pronounce perv as poove i always have you always have so i don't know why you look to me like that day i don't know i felt natural to me because i've heard he said so many Yeah. Well, I've accused you of it so many times to pove. Matt, what are you doing on the weekend? And he said, well, I'm going to go down to the beach and have a pooh.

I'm having to poo pooh, pove. So, Jess, I think this is going to get you back in. Here's a few dot-point conspiracy theories. Wackier ones, Reladterious 51. Lazzar's main one is they have alien technology. They were trying to reverse engineer it to figure out how to, the America wanted to, you know, run their own spaceships, basically. That sounds like they still haven't done it, but his thing is that it would take decades.

Yeah, he said, like, he had analogies like, be like dropping a motorbike into, you know, the Middle Ages. I say, make that, sure, yeah, the brightest minds there to be on, what the, this is, I cannot get my head around this. Yeah. Too many steps in between. Yeah. Yeah. All right, here's a few. Area 51 is home to experimental world.

wormholes and stargates. Okay. There is a deal with the US government allowing humans to be abducted in exchange for alien technology. I love that idea that there's like an alien leader comes down secretly, makes a deal with the president.

Yeah. Says, the president's like, all right, you can abduct random people if we get some tech. That kind of was explored in the X-Files. Right. With the shadowy syndicate that sort of is running all these sort of things.

Yes. And it turns out that a lot of the people working on it, they had to volunteer their own family members. This is why Mulder's sister was, Samantha was abducted. Because it would mean that you're not going to, like, screw over the aliens because you've got skin in the game, okay, your family

are part of the, all the experiments. And this is another conspiracy. And that was, like, obviously, the thing about the X-Files is that they changed the narrative a few times. Yes. But that's one thing that was explained. And they were definitely, like, Chris Carter, right? Is the inventor? It was very, like, inspired by a lot of real

world conspiracy theories. real world theories, including this one, that they have cloning programs there and human alien hybrid breeding projects house there. They explore that a little bit as well, don't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And then this one, this one's pretty famous.

The moon landing was filmed there, directed by Stanley Kubrick. Ah. Well, it looks good, looks fantastic. It looks beautiful. I mean, it's got the Kubrick. It's an orteer. Yeah, it's right.

You mentioned him before. The Kubrick staircase out of the module. Oh, the staircase. That's one fall, small step down the Stanley Kubrick staircase. That's pretty, that's something. Yeah, I think that's something. I thought it was really good. I had all the pieces of a joke.

I thought it was fantastic. I didn't get it for moments. Yeah. You don't like to spoon feed. No, my comedy's very clever. Yeah. Yes. Now, I alluded to this before.

This is my favorite of the conspiracies I read about. Annie Jacobson, who wrote quite a popular book, Area 51, an uncensored history of America's top-secret military base, of Jacobson Warden Romano write, though she won a claim for her book, it also garnered skepticism from some reviewers because of its conclusion. After compiling a thoroughly researched history of the site from interviews and historical records, Jacobson's book ends by repeating a ludicrous conspiracy claim, made to her by an anonymous source who claimed to have worked on a top-secret Area 51 project. The source told her, just strap it.

The source told her that a Nazi doctor surgically enlarged the heads of abducted teenagers to make them resemble aliens supposedly on the order of Joseph Stalin, who the source says forced the teenagers to pilot flying saucers over the US as a Cold War scare tactic. But instead of prompting a war of the world's type panic, Jacobson's source, says the fake alien teens ultimately crash landed in New Mexico in the famous Roswell incident. Then he claims the remains of the crash

were taken back to Area 51. They were just teenagers with surgically altered big heads. A Nazi did that to him. Yes. On the orders of Stalin. Yes. And the plan was like they would crash somewhere like public in America and everyone would go, oh my God, aliens are here.

But instead the government got him and took them away secretly to study him. Whoa. Whoa. I mean, I've heard watertight theories before, and that's one of them. That just makes sense. It explains everything. Yeah, it does. It actually ties everything up in a very neat boat.

Yeah. Which will not fit around their gigantic heads. How big are we talking, do you reckon? Well, you know, I think, you know, two to three times. That's a big head. And how? Just filling it with air? Yeah, surgically.

Yeah. What, like, stuck to have a basketball. Well, you got to remember, it was a Nazi doctor. Oh, yeah, yeah. They were pretty awful. They had ways and means. Yep. So, yeah, I thought that was quite something.

I love that. It sounds like, so her book, like, is cited, it's sourced. Yeah. She's done it. And then it says, it's a big finish. Anyway, in summary, this is what it all is. Apparently, it's a great book. I wish I read it.

I got so distracted by Lazar's story. Area 51 fully off limits to civilians, but there are a bunch of place in the vicinity to check out. One such place is the Area 51 Alien Center, which I think we should add to our trip when we go there. Atlas Obscura writes, cruising through the Nevada Desert, you might think you're hallucinating when this extraterrestrial outposts materializes on the horizon. Just past the infamous Area 51, this kitschy roadside attraction is like a UFO that crash landed into a souvenir shop. And that is meant in the best possible way. That's awesome. Inside you'll find alien themed everything.

T-shirts, socks, bottle cozies, footballs, glassware, magnets, pins and plushies. Magnets. Yeah, I think I really put this in because I'm like, I reckon we detour for Jess just to pick up. Yeah, you were like, oh, bitches be shopping. No, magnets, Jess. What's wrong with you? You're like, oh, Jess will love this bit where we can go shopping. My misremembering that whenever we travel you like to buy magnets?

No, that is true. Because I don't think it was intentional, but you were making me sound a little misogynistic thing. She also loves to buy Chanel handbags, am I right? Yeah. I didn't know that. Is the Chanel Superstore there is? Is there a Chanel Superstore? Yeah, it'd probably be an alien version, though.

Shanalian? Shenalian. That's phenomenal. Do you have any of the new chanelian bags? Chenelian number five? You look like an alien. With your little headphones on. I remember the aliens always listening to...

I distinctly remember the moment when I was walking around with my both noise-canceling headphones. And I thought I looked cool in them. And then I saw myself reflected in a shop window and I went, oh my God. The truth is out there. I've got to go to airports. Yeah, I look really dumb. I look really bad in them. How do how do people look cool in them?

I thought I was one of the cool. Cool people. No, no, no, no. I look so dumb. It doesn't matter how you look. It doesn't matter how you feel inside the cans. Yeah, well, that's why I wish I'd never seen it. Yes, that's the problem.

I mean, ideally just never see yourself at all. Yeah. What a dream. Another famous spot to visit Dave. Yes. Jess. Jess actually brought this up to me off pod, so you'd be pretty happy with this. The Lil A, air comma, le, aircoma,

The Lilalian. Oh, the Lil A, le, in. Oh, my God. The Lilalian. Lilalian. Yeah. I don't think that makes any sense. It makes perfect sense.

In French, what would that, what would that mean? Littalian. Sorry, not in Austria. Oh, I produce. A le in. Well, then I think you would drop the E. And you drop the the the, because the le is the, the, I think it's great. Because in, like the, like an in, a place.

to stay. It's very good stuff. I've gone to their website. It's very modern. Yes. I mean, do they serve beer at this place? Okay.

Why would they just call the little ale inn? Oh. Maybe they don't want to corner themselves in. They've got the world famous alien burger. Oh, tell us what's in that. Served with lettuce, tomato, pickle, green onions and our alien sauce. Oh, I was going to say, that just sounds like a burger. Oh, alien sauce.

Fair enough. We've got Element 115 on there. And Jess, you were my... My numbers had them, because it's in a town called Rachel, which I think is fantastic. Very fun. It's population when I read was in the low 50s, but you're saying now it's in the 40s. It's in decline. When I was looking on Google Maps, because I was just looking around, because the fact that Area 51 is just on the map is crazy.

I clicked on Rachel, it says, as of the 2020 census, it has a population of 48. So that's, they've maybe had a couple of kids since then. No, no, my info was older than that. Old up. But you know what else is nearby? The Mount Irish Wilderness. Oh. Just a mountain that has an Irish wilderness, I suppose.

What would be in Irish wilderness? Yeah, that's a fantastic question. It's hard to be sure. Jesus Christ. What? What? What? What are you even saying that?

So, yeah, the little alien. We're going to talk about both these places, The back half of this episode is a fun little folly and they're two of the main places in it. But the Lilalian is a dine and motel 12 miles from Area 51 and they estimate they receive between 100 and 500 visitors a day in the summer with roughly half making their way to the base entrance gate. But we're busy all year round, the Inns assistant manager said.

another spot that I think if we are going to check out these spots have you heard of the black alien mailbox I have not no it's situated along the Nevada state route 375 aka the extraterrestrial highway the black mail box is a meeting place for the extraterrestrial true believers it's a spot to go if you want to see a UFO or perhaps drop off some intergalactic mail it's just basically this letterbox in the middle of nowhere and it's got lots of messages written onto the box for aliens but also different packages inside apparently Whenever you go, it'll be different every day.

But there'll be beers in there for the aliens to try and all sorts of things like that. Who's collecting the mail? I don't know. Aliens. Well, yes, aliens. And obviously, it's sort of like people might have been there and seen some of these aircraft, either UFOs or military, and been like, wow. But apparently, even if you see nothing, it is so in the middle of nowhere that the stars are just amazing.

I really want to go somewhere where I can see a lot of stars. Yes. And people just camp out around this mailbox. Apparently, it became a bit of a landmark when Lazar used it as a meeting place, promising people to be a good spot to see alien spacecraft. It's painted black, which I guess is where it gets its name, covered in stickers and messages. And it's the only landmark for miles.

And it is literally just a letter box. And the fact that it became really popular was unfortunate for the owner of the mailbox. Steve Medlin. It was just his cattle ranch's mailbox. Oh, wow. Steve's Medlin. He's trying to get mail.

And he's like, he doesn't believe in any of this stuff. He just wants to get his mail from it and it became so annoying. And apparently, according to Travel Nevada, after decades of male theft and vandalism, he moved his mailbox off the highway and close to his ranch. Can't have taken decades, surely. Decades. It was soon replaced by another mysterious black male. box and yeah so you can go that's like a bit of a landmark people go and get photos with

it and camp out around and trying to see get shot out by the bit of fun piss off seriously my meds were in there where are they who took my beers so because of the rogan thing and lazar coming out that documentary stuff 2019 became a really big year for area 51 Wow. Which has made me think, 2020, COVID. Oh, to lock us all away. Was that we were getting too close to the truth? Too close.

Something I'm just, I don't know, putting it out there. But now we're about to start a resurgence again. Oh, no. We've put ourselves on the hit list. Oh, no, don't put me in a lockdown again. No, I don't want to play video games. I sit on my cat. I don't want to play cozy video games, read a book.

I don't want to. You basically, lockdown for you is you living in a cosy video game. It's called. There's a lot of animal crossing at that time. Right. It's on an island, fishing, planting flowers. It's quite nice. The last thing we're going to talk about,

have you, do either of you remember a Facebook event called Storm Area 51? Yes. Oh, super vaguely, yeah. Yeah, yeah. For the BBC, Joshua Never writes, in June 2019, 20-year-old Maddie Roberts, a student from Bakersfield, California, posted a tongue-in-cheek Facebook event. And it's no coincidence the event was in the same year as Lazar's appearance on Joe Rogan as he was directly, Maddie Roberts, directly inspired by that episode. For The Guardian, Jay Oliver Conroy wrote, inspired by the Rogan podcast, Roberts created the event. According to the plan, people would meet in Rachel Nevada, the closest town to area,

51, in the early morning of the 20th of September, then swarm the defences and see for themselves if the government was hiding aliens. Nevett continues. The name of the Facebook event was, Storm Area 51. They can't stop all of us. Once inside the facility, the supposed secrets lurking within the alien technology and clandestine government research could finally be disclosed to the public. Let's see them aliens, the event's description declared.

Within days of its launch, the event became. became a viral sensation making headlines across the world. I posted the Arrow 51 Facebook event at about 2 a.m. on June 27, Mr. Roberts told the BBC. It was totally a joke from the get-go. There was just a ton of attention out of nowhere, and it was awesome. After the Facebook event went viral, FBI agents knocked on the 20-year-old's door to question his intentions. Mr. Roberts assured the agents, he wasn't building pipe bombs or something insane, he told the BBC. We never mentioned part-time.

Yeah, what are you talking about? What an oddly specific reference. A week out, more than 3.5 million people expressed interest in attending the events on the 20th of September. 3.5 million. And they, like, Rachel, New Mexico is fucked. Which had a population of 40s up to maybe 50 years. Yeah. We better get the alien source going for these burgers.

We get a lot of them. And they were, they were shitting themselves a bit. Yeah. local, there's actually a two-part documentary about it, which is fully patted out to two parts, if you're honest. Two parts. But it's on Netflix, at least in Australia, called Train Rec.

I think that's like a sub-brand of documentaries. They did one about a previous topic, Woodstock 99, but they did a two-part about this. And yeah, they interview all the key players, including Maddie Roberts and you know building up the they're like but they're also interviewing army people the local sheriffs and everyone they're like you know it's all dragged out impossibly but they're like well like even if it's tiny fraction of this amount of people there's no infrastructure for this and if they are going to try and storm era 51 we need to

so they boosted security and all this sort of stuff um people People were excited, 33-year-old real estate investor, Art Frazic, fantastic name, from Ohio. What the fuck? God's country. Art frasic. Art frasic. Art, he's a real estate investor. Art frasic.

Are you fucking kidding me? No jokes. No, that's not real. That's an alien. Art frasic. Art frasic does sound very alien. How fucking dare you be called art frasic? What?

I need a time out. Whoa. I can't handle that. And he's from Ohio, God's Country. And he wrote on the event, I'm going into Area 51 because our American tax dollars fund this facility and after 70 years of hiding alien technology from the world, it's our right to see it.

Here, here. Yeah, you tell them Art Frazic. Hell yeah, Art Friesic. Two men from the Netherlands, a YouTuber and his friend, had already been arrested a week before the event when they were found three miles inside a restricted zone near the area 51 base. What are they hiding? Yeah.

You know, just let us in. Show, if you're not hiding anything. Yeah, then it shouldn't be a problem that I'm here. It is fun to reverse that under the, like the government, like conservative government will sometimes be like, if you've got nothing to hide, then just why do you need privacy? Yeah, exactly. Why can't we film you all at 24-7? Why can't we just, you know, read your emails and tap your phones?

Have you got nothing to hide? Stop and frisk you at any. He's like, yeah, government, if you got nothing to hide. Yeah. She's on the foot, isn't it? Hey? After the Roberts' FBI house call, Conroy writes, he came up with a brilliant pivot. He was, he was shitting himself.

Yeah. In the train wreck docker, he's like, he wasn't at home and his mom's texting him, like, get he now the feds are here? The FBI are here. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And he's like, he's like, I'm not coming.

I don't want to talk about that. But he got scared. people are saying this is going to be a disaster this is going to be fire festival too or people are going to die and it's going to be on your head you're going to be liable for this

his house party yeah legendary so he he tried to pivot with the idea of turning the event rather than we're not going to necessarily crash here 551

we're just going to have like a Burning Man style festival in the desert and they came up with ideas for the name. He joined forces with Connie West, the operator of Lilalian. And, yeah, they planned a festival titled Alien Stock. And he talks in the doco, Maddie Roberts talks through the process, like, we're trying to think of, you know, we're trying to soften the name.

What's peace and love? Woodstock. It was good to, it was like, oh, that's how you got alien stock. Interesting. Okay. I thought it might have been like... I was thinking like chicken stock. Chicken stock.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. A good sort of base. Yeah. Yeah. Stock portfolios. Yeah. I did know. We got a lot of aliens in stock.

Yeah. I thought it was... But I don't know. It was a woodstock related thing. Ah. Yeah. Okay. Well, so yeah.

It does it kind of make sense as well. I guess. They're working it up. They're not... Neither of them have any experience. Like, one of them is a 20-year-old who, you know, works retail or something. And the other one runs a diner that has a bit of foot traffic or whatever, but, you know, it's a small-town little diner.

They're not used to hosting 3.5 million people. Generally speaking, neither of them have done that, generally speaking. Which should be several times larger than Woodstock or any festival in the history of humanity. Yes, that's right. So, Coachella doesn't get 3.5 million? Maybe over like four, like two weekends. All of this.

No, no. Not even anywhere close. Alien stock felt like they were taking the piss a bit to the serious urophologist and so. over at the Alien Research Centre in nearby Haiko, Nevada, possibly not pronounced like that, and apologies for Haikos or Hikos. So they decided to host their own area 51 event on the same weekend. Classic split in the party sort of thing. Competing party.

Yeah, the next town over. And their one was meant for more serious UFOologists, please. We're not making a mockery of this stuff. And despite the competing event, Maddie Robertson, Connie, West continued planning. Maddie had linked up with a promoter who's in the docker, Disco Donnie. Come on. And Disco Donnie.

What the fuck? You've made this entire report up. I mean, it does say pretty... You've been talking for like over two hours and you've just made it all up. Just admit it. And then Disco Donnie was there. And then Disco Donnie said, hello. Matt, were you just writing down those nightmares you were having while you were sick?

It feels a bit like that. I hope this is true. Who are you talking? This is how I remember the week. Disco Donnie? What the fuck was that art guy's name before? Art. Frazzle.

No, it was worse than that. Art Frazzic. Frazic. And you're telling me they're meeting in a town called Rachel. The meeting of the town called Rachel. Matt. Matt. Hey, I believe.

No, this is, you've just. I've done my own research, guys. Your research was a fever dream you had. Matt. Oh, no. This is insane. You watched your first. I just episode of Joe Rogan, you had nightmares all night, and then you wrote it down.

Now, we've got fucking disco over here. What are you talking about? I ate some of the elements I purchased on Lazar's website, and it opened up my third eye. Perfect. Yeah, so Disco Donnie was involved for a bit, but he didn't lie. He was like, these guys don't want what they're doing. He sort of backed out. He's more about the disco.

This other guy came in from Vegas, this big shot kind of promoter from Vegas. He came in and he goes, let's have a meeting. Maddie, Connie, let's all meet up. And I can't remember his name, but he's a real big shot, big talker guy. He's in the doco, like, you know, I don't give a fuck, you know, I'm a big deal. He basically seems like he should be named Disco Donnie, but he was named someone else. I think you've based a lot of these characters on, like, Simpsons characters. I think you've had a bad dream and you've written some weird shit down.

We sure it's not a good dream? I mean, it sounds like a lot of fun. So this other guy comes in and they meet and Connie, he really attacks them like, you've got nothing set up, this is a mess. You can't do this. And he, Connie sort of leaves Maddie, they're screaming at this meeting. These people are just meeting each other, they're screaming. And, yeah, there's another split.

So Connie, they're screaming. screaming at each other. Basically, Maddie Roberts, he's going, I've got to think about this. He's a 20-year-old who's now, you've got this weight of this huge event potentially on his shoulders. And he's like, I don't know what to do here. People are saying, you can't just abort, abort, get away from this. Connie's like, no, we've got to do it. This other guy's coming in saying, yeah, this, I wouldn't do it like this.

So he's booked to do a TV, like one of those American Breakfast TV shows. He's on there and they're asking him, so what's the plan? and it's next week, the date's set. And he's like, yeah, it's not concrete at the moment. What's actually happening? They're like, what do you mean? He's like, yeah, by the end of today, we'll be able to tell you what's going on.

Okay, well, that doesn't help us for this morning TV show spot. Yeah, he's like, stay tuned. We'll let you know what's going on because he still hasn't decided what he's going to do if he's still going to do it in Rachel. Oh, my God, dude, bail. He's going to do it in Rachel? Hopefully at Hotel beautiful.

They have the technology, but they, He, yeah, so he's not sure, but it seems like he has been convinced by this big shot Los Vegas guy. And the Los Vegas, he ends up pairing up with the Las Vegas guy who's got sponsorship from Budweiser. Tens of thousand dollars have been poured in. He now is doing an event that weekend in Las Vegas. So now there's three events happening that weekend. One in Las Vegas, one in Hiko or Hiko, one in Rachel. Okay.

Connie West is not happy She's like I've written checks For so much stuff To set up Like this town Doesn't have infrastructure I've ordered 50,000 party parts

She's basically she's I mean What do with them There's footage in the docker Of a flattening land To you know Have area for camping and stuff She's like excavated

Yeah I blew up a mountain She's up to her eyeballs You know In debt Oh my God She went all in On a 20 year old's

Facebook event? No. Where was the last time you went either clicked on or attended a Facebook event? No, it's been years. Probably a decade or something? Yeah. So, yeah, the both sides.

Maddie's saying that, um, Wes, Connie West is in overhead. She's not prepared. She's like, we had a deal. Like, it's a contract. You can't break it like this. But yeah, in the end, Rob is saying, I'm having my event in Las Vegas. Way more. Like, it's started.

from this underground, we're going to storm this thing to it. Now that's Caesar's Palace. Like Mike Tyson is going to fight someone like, Evil Caneval's opening the fire with a firework display. Yeah, wow. In vibe. But also, if I was him, I'd be like, well, at least I'm not going to get in trouble for people storming anything now because we're in Las Vegas.

And I reckon, I don't know. I mean, it's hard to know, but it feels like his promoter guy got in bed with, was just like, I see an opportunity to make some cash out of this. Sounds very much like that. Yes. But yeah, Connie West said I'm not, I'm not canceling. It's going ahead. Everyone's going at three events, going ahead. And Connie's is the one called Alien Stock. Well, yes, but that's Maddie's name. So Maddie's event in Las Vegas is called Alien Stock. Her one is still called Alien Stock. She's like, no, Alien Stock's going ahead in Rachel. The original Alien Stock.

And she said, I'll just worry about the legalities later. Legalities? Yes. They're both using the same name and the vagus big shots like you can't use that name um she gets a cease and desist letter oh my god uh with roberts demanding that west stop using the alien stock name but she's got a genius solution to get around this she adds a dash between alien and stock oh that's great it's completely different yeah how could that be confusing it's not it's not it's a perfect system it's incredibly clear are you going to alien hyphen stock or alien stock exactly that's how people talk That's how people talk. Yeah.

According to Allegra, Frank, I don't know what you think of that, doesn't know? It's fine. That's pretty good. I mean, it's pretty good, but like some of the names we've fucking had today. The bar is so high today. The bar, it doesn't, it's in space.

What are you talking about? It goes all the way to the top. Jeff, you know what else that in space? What? UFOs. What? Yeah. They're out there.

That doesn't sound true. Oh, maybe it's not. Sorry. So Frank writes, West also counted with a leetons. legal notice of her own, alleging that Roberts pulled out of the event unlawfully, though she later told media she had, quote, nothing but love for him. So now there are three rival alien-themed events all happening on the same weekend in Nevada.

So stupid. How they all go down? In a word, fine? Okay. I wanted, because I... Who turned up? I wanted to build it up to be like this great disaster. But, you know, we haven't heard of it.

It's not... They were all minor disasters, I would say. Yeah. I mean, there's 3.5 million, so a million each? Yeah. Because you'd say about maybe a half million won't show up. Yeah. I would say, but then a one million at one event, one million in Vegas,

one million at alien, hyphen stock. I'm pretty confident that the splitting, it was such confusing messaging, and the fact that, you know, Maddie Roberts is going out on TV saying, we don't know the plan a week before. Imagine people aren't, they're not booking their flights over this, are they? They're going, and this isn't fucking happening. I imagine all of that confusion led to what you're here is drastically reduced numbers on the three and a half mil. Well, I mean, a lot of people have clicked on a thing saying they're going to storm it.

And now it's like a party? Yes. So like, let's just say three and a half million people want it to storm it. Which I imagine that. You wouldn't, the military couldn't have stopped that. No. Well, it would have been horrific if they did. But.

yes but now it's a party like i want to storm something i don't want to go to something more than any the the vagus one is just it's really just a themed night it's like you know students night at the local club basically yeah uh and j oliver conroy who uh wrote up their experiences they kind of popped into the three uh firstly going to the los vegas budvisor sponsored event Spudwiser ever made their own alien canned versions. You know, like a lot of marketing... Are you saying Spudwiser? Spudwiser, sorry?

I feel like twice there was Spudwiser. One was Budweiser. Oh, yes. And the second one was Sputweiser. Sorry, I said the classic version. Spudwiser is a potato beer that I'm working on. But they made an alien-themed canned. Yes, and apparently, like, a lot of businesses were getting on a, you know,

a big company is tweeting, hey, you know. And what do you reckon? Most people have maybe, what, eight drinks, 10 drinks, let's say. Three and a half million attendees. So what do you get? 35 million cans will probably do it. People having 10 drinks? Yeah.

Yeah, no, that's, yep. I know, I wouldn't I thought so. He's just needed easy numbers. It's easier number. And also, it doesn't have, it's Budwise's mid-strength, isn't it? Yes. Oh, bud light is. No.

Oh, that's Bud light. Yeah, light over there doesn't mean calories. It means. No, it does mean Calais. Here it means... Yeah, sorry, you're right. Here it means low alcohol over there or something. But anyway, I still think we should order 35 million cans.

But I think it is a mid-ish strength beer. Should we up the party pies? Yeah, yeah. I read Fosters in England is going down a 3.something percent. Oh. Watering down Aussie pride. Ozzy piss. Which hasn't been made in Australia for my lifetime, I don't think, ever.

No, it used to be, I'm sure. I've just never seen it. You ever seen a Foster's here? No. Really expensive if you ever see it because it's like an import. Right. I had to catch first class plane over. All right.

So, yes, Conroy describing the Vegas Budweiser sponsored events, aka Budweiser, aka Budweiser. Thank you. The Area 51 celebration, so that was also known as, in downtown Las Vegas did not get off to a promising start. When I arrived shortly after 7pm, the outdoor venue heavily bedecked with glowing. neon alien signage was mostly empty, except for cops and local newscasters.

It does sound like that's a theme through all the events. More than punters, it was authorities and media, from YouTube as up to old school media. A DJ blasted dubstep to a bare dance floor. The venue even had a swimming pool, bathed in green light and watched by a bored-looking lifeguard. How'd they have a swimming pool? Okay, yep, whatever. Seems like a bad idea and an alcohol sort of

But they've got the bored-looking lifeguard But I mean, I'm from that bloody nanny stay, aren't I? I've been... You want everyone to bloody wear a helmet when they're in the pool. Everyone got their pool helmets? But it picked up. People started trickling in.

Everyone was wearing their best alien-themed raver tire. One woman wore a shiny head-to-to-to-to-o alien costume. Another had a Rick and Morty pattern dress really dates it to the time. Current. Yes. And another one with a very fun sign reading, Green Lives Matter. Very funny stuff.

I spied, why aren't you laughing? I spied Maddie Roberts. He was in high spirits. Quote, I'm absolutely amazed at how things turned out. And it's incredible, he told me as he signed autographs. He's signing autographs. Oh, my God. By 9pm, there were a couple hundred people jerking spasmodically to dubstep.

Oh. A woman who introduced herself as Cheryl. Oh, no, that name makes Jess feel sick. Please, that's very trickery for me. Shurl. Shurl. That way you misprounced it to make it not feel as bad. No, he's written it out as Shurl, and then he says, she spelt it out.

C-H-E-R-Y-L, Shearle, saying, this is the first time since Roswell that people like us are coming together. Even if nothing happens, we tried. Were you there during Roswell? Cheryl, what are you talking about? It's very funny that she went to the Vegas one as well. Like the corporate version of... Yeah, that does explain why there was a pool because for a second I was like,

how do they get a pool in Rachel? Oh, okay. Yeah, we're in Vegas. There's lots of pools in Vegas. Indoor, like at the clubs are there? Yeah. I love to club. The DJ interrupted is set to thank Maddie Roberts

and give a special shout out to Bob Lazar. The crowd cheered. In the docker, they show Maddie Roberts still in the classic photo of the crowd behind, and it did look packed. Wow. In the docket, it says 10,000. I don't think it would have been that much.

That's a lot of people. Even a bit way less than, you know, the three and a half million, of course. Yeah, 35 million cans for 10,000 people. Yes. People are going to be drunk. Jay Oliver Conroy made it sound more like hundreds and thousands, but, you know. Anyway, it was a party, and Maddie Roberts was pretty happy. I don't know what the promoter made out of it, but Maddie Roberts, after everything,

all the money he made was from some T-shirt sales, which I guess is what he was signing. And he was like, yeah, the next day I sort of back to the job. And in the docker, they show him just sort of like behind the desk retail, just sort of like slumped and hung over at the gap. So, okay, event number one, it was some sort of a mild success, I'd say. Yeah, that sounds all right. Next up, the more serious event at the Alien Research Center in Haiko or Hiko.

And I should say, this all made news around the world. I don't remember any of it, I don't think. I remember the Facebook event and they were like they were a bit worried that if they do turn up, they'll have to get like a lot of security. Right. People are like, yeah, we're going to storm this bastard. Yeah. America.

So, yeah, this is from Australia's Channel 9 reporting on the more serious event saying, Keith Wright, the organiser, said that after drawing just 500 attendees at a Friday event planned for 5,000, he had to pull the plug for the rest of the weekend saying we put on a safe event for the people that showed up but we had to make the decision today because it costs tens of thousands of dollars to staff each day it was a gamble financially and we lost so they got cancelled sort of mid-event

Keith what's our man's name Jay Oliver Conroy went past that event stopped by and said you know it was more like a souvenir shop which is what we know that that place is anyway So maybe it was just 500 people there. Sounds like a lot.

It does feel like everyone's inflating the numbers. Yeah. So, yeah. That one didn't work. But, you know, I imagine 500 people is a pretty good event. Why not just keep it going and have just not all the staff on? Yeah, I don't know. So on to the final stop.

The big one, alien stock. Alien Hiking stock. The one I feel like I'm rooting for the most, because it's like the most, like, independent. And it's how it sort of began. Yeah. So this is in Rachel. Conroy writes,

Rachel, a tiny one-horse town was besieged by cars and tents and camper vans. So they've driven from Vegas through to Hiko, Hiko, and now onto Rachel. Including the cops, EMTs, festival organisers and so on, there looked to be a couple of thousand people. Not the two million who had RSVP to the Facebook event.

Oh, come on, guys. It's RSVP. On Facebook events are... Lock it in. Yes. That's binding. Yeah, I mean, maybe is there for a reason. If you're a yes, you're going.

Yeah. Exactly. If we could... I've got on all these party parts. What the fuck? I'd say I'd need at least a doctor's sleep. Yes. Otherwise, I'm billing you.

Yeah. Correct. Yeah, the sheriff was even fearing 30,000. So it was way down. They were over-prepared security-wise. Oh, no. Like the county and the military protecting the base. They spen up big, fear in the worst, which I guess that, you know, maybe you have to...

Yeah, better do that, I guess, than not protect anything. So Conroy paints a bit of a picture. My neighbours at the parking lot slash campsite were a punk band called Foreign Life Form. They weren't part of the planned music line up because this was now like a, you know, there was a stage with music and then, you know, maybe people would storm the military base. as well. Yeah, if we get around to it. Yeah, we'll get around to it.

So, yeah, they rocked up just hoping to, they're like, wow, our band name's sort of about aliens. We should be playing here. Like, we're trying to find Connie West to get added to the bill, and they painted themselves all green to, you know, go, look, we'd be great for this. And Conroy continues, my other neighbour, an erudite joint smoking history podcast from Oregon or a t-shirt shirt that said, take me to your dealer,

switch the L and the D. Oh, that's good. He and his son had the shirts custom made. The life forms, the punk band, were disappointed that they couldn't buy some. This is good journalism, painting a picture. So while Conroy suggested there were a couple of thousand,

Frank suggests the numbers were much lower, saying the few hundred Lincoln County police officers and highway patrols seem to outnumber actual attendees in the range of two to one, patrolling the perimeter of Rachel with little to do and yet all the photos you see seem to be it's very sparse and what are they doing there is there is a stage there are there is a stage that's been put up um 20 bands have been booked uh i've seen varying estimations of the crowd numbers uh low is at 150 highs three and a half thousand it's a big big gap there uh all the extra

Police, emergency medical services and fireies were estimated to cost some $300,000 to the county. And the military, putting the extra security onto the base, apparently, they say, cost them $11 million. That's a lot of dollars. And that's for the government spending on the military. Yeah, I guess so. I feel less sorry for them. They've rounded it up, I reckon. Yeah.

And, you know, that's like a drop. They literally, don't they spend trillions of dollars on their military? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's a rounding error. Strangely, despite 20 bands being booked to play, only, according to Frank, one turned up. Only one, and it wasn't the life forms? It was not the life forms. It was Wiley Savage. Yeah, and it seems like maybe foreign life forms weren't able to find Connie West to fill one of the 19 vacant spots.

It's so funny, they couldn't get on. They still can't get on. We've had 19 bands pull out. So the opening act is now the headline act. Yes. and you're going to have to stretch. We're looking for the other bands. 19 didn't turn. You'd be pissed. Oh, yeah.

Apparently, Connie gets around in like a, I think it was like a beige VW Beetle. And Frank was like, I kept, I saw the car everywhere. She was frantically driving around. Why is he driving? We were looking for bands. I don't know. But she's like, I saw the car, but I never saw Connie. She was just, and apparently Connie in the lead-up was, no one could get on to her.

And that was part of the reason. Maybe there was splintering people. Well, I mean, there's only one oven. You had 50,000 party parts? Yeah. How long that takes. It takes ages. Frank Wright, so this is of the stage.

An unnamed DJ played slightly dusty radio hits from Scrilex and Justin Bieber, while a slight crowd stood and bopped their heads. The majority of the attendees seemed to be members of the press, which probably contributed to the lack of rowdiness. Floggers from Peru and journalists from Germany were covering the event alongside US-based outlets like Fox, who Frank works for, and our takeaways were similar. The lead-up to alien stock was more interesting and eventful than alien stock itself. A bit like alien sightings, really, isn't it?

Yeah. Despite the grimness of the event, Connie West called it a success saying, What makes this special and a success is the smiles that people are leaving with, and the memories that they have and the friendships that they've made, that's what matters. It sounds like Connie West here and Maddie Roberts in Vakes were both like just relieved that it wasn't an absolute fucking disaster. They're like this is, they were so stoked where everyone else was like, oh, this is kind of sucks.

You must feel like this is a bit lame. And they're like, no one's dead. Yeah, this isn't the best. Frank continues, the lower turnout and high costs to the county didn't seem to phase West, who was already thinking about alien stock 2020. West told the reporters there Sort of a makeshift huddle My mum already told me I was doing it again

So yeah, I'm doing it Her mum already said, I better do it then And Frank said to that It was a strange statement One that drew laughs amid some sceptical eyebrow raising It's like, that's a weird thing to say Yeah Unfortunately while a date was locked in

The 2020 event did not go ahead due to a little thing called the COVID pandemic. But you're so right. A lot of people were like, oh, thank God. But you're so right that we were locked down to keep us away. Yeah. Because it only would have grown. I would have gone.

Just going to send you a link here, Dave. Just want to see if you think the town was on board with the event coming back. You've got a bit of info here as well. The website's called noalienstalk.com. Wow. It's just like a long list of blog posts, is it? Yeah. Of people who are pissed off about alien stock.

Yeah. Top one is from the 30th of July 2025. A recent documentary finally released some official numbers. Our county lost $250,000. The Air Force lost $11 million, yes, $11 million securing the base. And the little alien claims to have won $3.338 million in a lawsuit resulting from the event. Yeah, so in the docker, it seems like it's a throwaway. She's like, you don't know how much I might.

She sued the big shot in Vegas for, like, breaking the deal. She said, you want to hear how much or I won in court? And that's the number, three and a half million. And then they cut to the big shot and he goes, if she thinks, I'm ever going to pay that up, she's dreaming. You can chase me to the ends of the earth. I ain't paying. Which is a wild thing to be saying. What the fuck?

Yeah. Wow. And then this says, why do we all have to pay for their failure with our taxes while they claim to have made millions? Why is the little alien not required to reimburse our county for the losses? Wow. Yeah, so it's torn this 40-odd-person town apart, which would be wild. I guess all of our businesses, tourists. But yeah, it's amazing how that is a website from up to date till now

because it looks like it's from a time machine from the 90s. Yeah, it's such an old looking website. All right, we're coming right to. the end here um just yeah briefly like we're talking about before area 51 is inspired or we're referenced in so much pop culture too much to mention but talked about independence day indiana jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull apparently the x files uh but i thought i'd finished by telling you about an ebook i found when looking to research this topic it's called one night in area 51 by violet fawn and this is the synopsis after a viral facebook post

where does she get her ideas promises a raid of area 51 oh i should say i didn't i didn't write it down but in the doco they show it that um and they build it up like it's it's going to happen they're going to do it that and there was like 20 old people had gone to to storm it and they're all dressed up in outfits and stuff and they do a countdown and they start running towards it and then they go just kidding sort of thing it was like psych and they'd plan to like psych out the agent's order? Or they're running it like the people armed with machine guns. Yeah, yeah.

Just kidding. A bit of fun. But yeah, I really think that it could have been a one episode doco. Okay. They were that band stretch, stretch, stretch, stretch, stretch, yep. So, okay, so here's one-night on Area 51. After a viral Facebook post promises a raid of Area 51, Samantha Hollis finds herself in Nevada.

Not to take part in the raid, but as a backup guard. Of course, like the other guards, she doesn't expect the raid to happen. Instead, she expects to spend a dull month in the hot Nevada sun waiting to go back to her usual post in Washington State. Okay. But the raid does happen. Following a violent clash, Samantha finds herself being swept into the center of Area 51 against her will. Once inside, she ends up alone and terrified.

As she attempts to find her way out, she stumbles upon a top secret alien breeding program and the program stud, Subject 27. Subject, stud alien, this is. Subject 27 has been withheld from breeding for months, and he is desperate for a release. Oh, God. Samantha finds herself inexplicately attracted to the tall, muscular, extraterrestrial. They're always tall and muscular.

And she's surprised to realize how badly she needs a release too. Oh, God. That's what I'll sound like, Dave, yes. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, God, why? Where's that go? Yeah.

Oh, man, there's a big sub-genre of these sort of, and a lot of just self-published, like less than a chapter at a time, and they call them books. What's going to happen to the next thing? Right. There's one series in the covers of, like, pencil-drawn pictures of aliens, the first of its head, the second one of its two butts. The sub...

Oh, so beautiful. I did hold back a bit there. the full title of the book is One Night in Area 51, colon, an alien erotica story. Beautiful. That's just one of many. Could you believe it? Can't wait. Add to Cart.

I'll bring it back to it in conclusion. Finally, a bit more serious, summing it up with comb. Area 51 is one of the most famous military installations in the world. A remarkable feat considering the government didn't formally acknowledge the site existed until 2013. Rumors of hidden extraterrestrial technology and life forms have fueled its popularity in the public's imagination for decades. While no proof of aliens has yet surfaced, yet, yet, declassified information reveals that during the Cold War, the CIA and Air Force spent decades developing advanced biplanes like the U2 and the A12 at the base. Sightings of these impossible crafts likely inspire the rumors of other worldly visitors. Today, Area 51 is still an active base, but its purpose and history are a top secret mystery.

Let's give the final word to Bill Diamond, the CEO and president of the SETI, a scientific institute, focused on finding extraterrestrial intelligence. What's important about the public fascination with UFOs in Area 51 is what it says about our human nature and our perspectives on our place in the cosmos. It says, we want to believe that we're not. alone. That's nice. I said Bill Diamond.

Bill Diamond. It's fun. Like, he came up in the wrong episode. Any other day, that's a great name. Pretty bad. Oh, yeah. Bill Diamond's incredible. Great.

But, yeah, on today's episode, that's as bad as Dennis. Yeah. What a slap in the face. So, yeah, it was a messy sort of report. I wasn't really sure where to put all the focus. But so much going on. It almost feels like it was two and a half. reports sort of mushed together.

Yeah, there's a lot. And I'm sure there's even more truth out there. Oh, 100%. And I look forward to people letting us know in comments and messages. What have we missed? Yeah. Have you ever seen Element 115? The real one.

Yeah. Not the shitty synthesized one. Yeah. The real one. The real shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's fascinating stuff.

I want to believe. I do want to believe as well. I don't care. It's good to get two different perspectives. A lot of balance. Yeah, honest, that's a block-worthy topic. That's one of the topics that you go, have we not done that here? Yeah, it's surprising.

Ten years in, we'd never done area 51. There it is. I think maybe, and maybe others would think like this as well, I kind of thought it was probably covered with Roswell. I'm like, is that the same? I didn't know, is it the same thing? I also had a bit of crossover confusion. You even asked me to send my Roswell reporter from eight years.

years ago to make sure there wasn't. But you didn't touch on any of that. Was that because you avoided it or because it's not really good? Partially because I avoided it. Because, yeah, I did read that there was a, Roswell had a similar thing, which you probably talked about. A book was released in 1980, which really brought the public's attention to Roswell. And maybe some of that led to the, you know, there was a flow-on effect perhaps. And every time something like this comes out, the people spotting UFOs really spikes. And you can't get a good photo. Anyway, that I struggle with. Yeah.

Well, I think it's like, what's that old one-liner, heroin addict, one-liner comic? Mitch Headberg. Mitch Headberg. Like, his bit, he's like, he thinks the Bigfoot just is blurry. Yeah, that's a great observation. But a great report there. Thank you so much. Thank you again for taking us to the Blockbuster number one special.

Thank you. Huge. A big responsibility when you did a great job. Say thank you. It means a lot, Jess. Love you, Jess. Okay. Dave, love you.

Now it's time for something else. Me to tell you, I love you. What a roller coaster. Oh, my God, that made my heart sing. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show, where we thank some of our great Patreon supporters. These are the ones that make this show happen. Dave, tell us more.

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Yes, on the Patreon. Exciting times and that's why we saw. spend this last little bit of the show dedicated to our great Patreon supporters, because without them, this show does not exist. And we normally start with the fact quota question section,

which actually has a jingle go, something like this. Fact quote or question ding! I always remembers the dinghs. And this is where people on the Sydney-Shanberg level or above get to give us a fact or a question or a brag or a suggestion or really whatever they like. And we've got one

big one this week. It comes from Caddy Salisbury. I said Katie weird. Yeah, you did. But that's how I always say it. I love it. And Caddy, this is their first entry into the fact quote of question section. Welcome.

And they've got the title of Silly Goose of the Pod. Oh. With a question writing, The other night I had a few wines and decided that it was a perfect time to up my Patreon level, which is why I can't even write this question in the first place. I see. Which is why I can even write this question in the first place. It was a little cheaper to pay for the year all at once, so I did that.

I think of that $285 was a great price for a year's worth of quality entertainment. The next day, I went to pay for something and my card declined. Oh, no. I went into my account to check and saw that I'd paid almost $500. The silly goose me, didn't notice that the price was in US dollars. Please don't get me wrong. I'm happy to be here, and I'm lucky enough to be in a financial position. position where I can be, but it was just a shock.

And I should say, Katie told me this story after the Sydney show we did it last month. And I was like, oh, I could definitely refund that, no worries. Yeah, there's never anything like that. But she wasn't telling us for that reason. She said, no, no, definitely not. But we never want to have anyone not be able to afford food exception because of this. Yes. Yes, I did make it very clear that I could definitely do that.

Okay. A mistake has been made. These things happen. But anyway, Katie says, or Katie, as I say, so my question is, what have you bought when you've had a few wines? My other highlight is a pair of glittery blue heels, which I've never worn. Oh, yeah. You best believe I'll be getting my money's worth with fax, quotes and questions this year,

so you'll be hearing from me very soon. Thanks for all the laughs. Love your work. Thank you. This is the $500 question. Yeah. Love your work, Katie. A lot of pressure to have an answer here.

I can't remember it was after wines, but I made a mistake not that long ago where I ordered Humphrey the dog a little, well, I didn't think it was going to be a little, a toy. It's supposed to be a chicken. Yeah. Like a stuffed, like plushy. Yeah, I understand what a dog toy is. Yeah, with squeaky stuff. I'm explaining this to Matt. He doesn't know.

He doesn't know. I do know. And it arrived and it was the size of what can only be described as a key ring. Okay. But still like plush? Still plush. So just a choking hazard. He loves throwing it around.

We call it Little Chicken. But it is, it was hilarious when it arrived. I was like, that's a tiny package. How did they fit it in there? Oh, I guess it was pretty cheap. Yeah. You open up, you're like, I'm giving our dog a key ring. It was suspiciously cheap.

Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Dave, that's a lot of fun. So does that, does that happen to you? Oh, I've bought, like, you know, especially in lockdown stuff, exercise, sporting equipment still in its box. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, one night you're feeling pretty, like, energetic.

I was like, yeah, I'm going to do this. Yeah, plenty of stuff. All the time. Mine's not at all a regretful one, so does it still count? Go for it. And it just arrived. I just opened it before we saw a recording today. I'd, maybe, I don't even know if I had it any wines,

but I was definitely, it was like a spur of the moment purchased. One of our listeners, Celeste Hediali, I hope I'm pronouncing that right. I posted in our Patreon group about their art Instagram, which is sless. Dot Hajiali.art. Okay. And, you know, I was clicking on that browser. I'm like, oh, man, I went back a few pictures. And I saw one.

I'm like, oh, I love this. Colors, dots. I love colorful circles. But it was posted like a year ago. I'm like, there's no chance. This is still for sale, is it? And they're like, it is actually. And I just go.

it today. Perfect. It was so good. You know, when you almost forget that you bought something? I wonder what this is. I do love that. Whoa. Very excited.

I love when you purchase something. Something arrives in the mail that you forgot about. Yeah, it's like a present for yourself. Oh, my God. I'm like, thank you past Jess. Very excited to see how long it takes me to go to and figure out how to go to someone who will frame it. Yep. I'm going to say three years.

Yeah? Yeah. Conservative. Oh, I remember a regret. full purchase. It was on stage at The Life Who Knew It with Matt Stewart a couple of years ago where we had to name a Star Wars character. Sorry, this is a spoiler for one

of the episodes, but the answer was, there's a Star Wars character called Jet Porkens. Oh, it sounds very similar to Jess Perkins. Yes, it does. And I said, that's it. I'm going to buy a Jet Porkens trading card right now on eBay, when on eBay on my phone thinking this is a bit of a lot, spent five bucks or whatever. And then that night I get a message from the eBay

user saying, hey, what's your what's your best email or send over the digital card now you can add it to your collection i was like sorry what i spent money on the thing that i on a digital card i wanted to give you a card oh okay regretful purchases so i said don't worry about it regretful purchase i wanted to know because you know how like people say oh i'm i'm i'm a virgo and a cancer rising and something moon i wanted to know what mine was so i paid 99 cents to a site to find out and then they continued to charge me ten dollars a month after that which i never agreed to I had to cancel my credit card.

That's the only way to get out of it. Did you ever find out of what you were? Jesus. Yeah, but at what cost, you know, about 30 bucks. I got that money back, but still. Anyway, that's mine. There you go. Yeah, I've never, I'm always very wise with money.

Yes. I did. I also bought another painting when I was quite drunk in Bendigo at this pub. There was like this display wall. No regrets. Wake up the next day. Everyone's like, you really want to buy this thing? It's on my wall in my bedroom.

I love it. Oh, that's good. Like, there's like an older ladies group to meet at the pub and paint each week or something, and they put their pigs on the wall. That's sick. Love it. Love it. No regrets.

I'm sure they're. I'll think of regrets later. Thank you so much, Katie, for really bumping up to the Schaenberg level, but also just for your support in general. The next thing we like to do is a shout out to a few of other great supporters on the shout-out level or above. Yes, you normally come up with a game based on the topic? Any thoughts today? Bitch, you know I've found funny alien name generator.

Yes. Oh, I love it. Well, I've just found an alien name generator and then it said it gave me like a lot of customization options or it said, or you could just choose names that are and funny was an option. So I've gone for funny. All right, Dave, I'm going to read out the name and the place. You give us area and a number or it could be a word or whatever. You know, it could be area dog or whatever. Great.

A number or whatever. Well, thanks for you saying my first one. Well, AJ, edit that bit out. Beat what Matt said. And then Jess is going to say the alien name. All right, we're going to get a rhythm on this. So it's going to feel like poetry in motion. Dave's going to fugue state it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jess is going to be one with the... I'm blanking the mind. With the computer. Okay. All right, here we go. First up, thank you so much for your support from Fairview Park in South Australia. It's Graham Lynch.

From area Pocahontas. It's drinks Vibble. That's amazing. from, oh, drinks, but drinks is D-R-I-N-X. I tell you what, I'm confident this person is an alien from address unknown

can only shoot from deep within the fortress of the miles. It's Ryan Gray. Ryan Gray from area, FEMA bone. Glop. Glop is the best alien name. I don't think you can top it,

but let's see. Thanks so much Ryan. From Olympia in Washington in the US, Robert St. Lawrence, or Robert Street Lawrence. Area Baxter. Wobble-nose flag Well, I was wrong

I was wrong Wobble-nose flag Oh my God I can say when I'm wrong And I was wrong You're wrong Again from hadress unknown Again I'm assuming from

From deep within the fortress of the malls Thank you so much The Karen Scott area I'm a little teapot Snorts Snorts Schnaughts Which is been better than the last

I agree Snorts is fantastic If I ever get personalised plates Snorts I think it might be snorts Fuck that Yeah Yep

From Orlando Florida, thank you so much to Daniel Montresor. Area trombona. Noodle fuzz. Trombona. Noodle fuzz. Daniel, I know you've been waiting for a few months to get your call out, but geez, you're going to be happy with that. Nuddle fuzz.

And on block episode number one, too. Yeah, come on. From Williamstown in Ma in the United States. I'll never remember it. Massachusetts, maybe. It's Ryan. Area Teeth Clark. Quarky bumbley.

Again from Address Unknown. Again, shuming from deep within the fortress of the moles. Thank you so much to Rebecca Young. Area slot machine. Fizzlewinks. From Fizzlewinks is adorable. You'll wait for the next one. From Farmington in Utah.

Give me two in the United States. Thank you so much to Abigail Martin. Area Dungeons, but not dragons. Plip Plop. Oh, is that blip blop? Plip plop. Plip plop. Have some respect.

And finally, from Helensberg, just reminding Dave, you haven't used the number yet, in New South Wales, Australia. It's James Kane. Oh, pick one at random area, 69. Nice. And Zibley.

Zhibli. Zhibli. Fantastic. I love you, Zibley. Thank you so much to James Abigail, Rebecca, Ryan, Daniel, Karen, Robert, Ryan, and Graham. Your support means the world.

Thank you so much. Now, we welcome in some people into the Triptitch Club. Have I had a look at this? Do we have any inductees? Why you say that? I'll say what this is. This is our clubhouse slash theatre of the mind,

a little bit of a hall of fame for people that have been on the shout-out level or above for three consecutive years. Basically, they've already had a shout-out. They've had a blip-blop nickname a few years ago. Yep. But they've stayed true. Blip-plop. That was today, but remember blip-blop from a few years ago? Sure.

I don't be sure that you were saying plip-plop for today. Dave, you're saying blip-blop for today. Dave, you're saying blip-blop. But that was from the... I know, but today... Roswell was... Today we're saying... Plip-plop.

Thank you. Thank you. And these people, we induct them into the clubhouse. They go on in. Once you're in, you can never leave. There's over a thousand members inside already. There's air hockey. There's ice hockey, which is the same thing just with ice over the top of it.

There is... There's food. There's drink. There's cinema. There's people doing close-up magic, but only if you want that. Yeah. Nothing weird. No.

You can opt out. You can opt out. You say no thing. You've got to enthusiastically consent. They move on. They move on. If they don't want it, don't worry about it. You can wave them off.

Sometimes we have tattooists come in. You can get a tattoo for life, which is great. It's all free on the house. Tattoo for life. That's how good quality, how is it? And of course, Jess, she's behind the bar. You've always got to drink, a cocktail and or a bit of food. Yeah, I've got a specialty cocktail this time I've been working on.

It's called Little Grey Man. It is a grey beverage. Oh, appetising. Yeah. How do you get that color? Milk and sambuca. Oh, that's a little great man. Milk is that a white Russian?

Nah. I don't know what a white Russian is. And I got the ratios so it was grey. It's got to be a lot of sambuca. I think you're going to drink it and you're going to turn grey yourself. Yeah. White Russian can't, that can't be it, can it? It would be vodka and it's vodka, collua and cream.

But yours is way nice to say to that. It's way better. Liquorice milk. Alcoholic licorice milk. Delicious! I can make it a thick shake if you want. Yeah. You should have to ask.

Yeah. Yes, please. Put me down for one. You guys put a thick shake? How thick are we talking? Well, I want it thick. Okay, great. I'm on it.

But the blender is very hot. Oh. Very hot. Okay. So it's a hot thick shake. Yeah. I think you've invented a new thing. It's still incredibly thick.

Where do you go? It's like a soups slurry? No. Soup slurry. Anyway, Dave, you normally book a band. Yes, and Matt's actually got the name of the band there in front of him because I've been liaising with him there this week. They didn't get a shot. They sent me actually a little bit of an email from aliens saying the alien stock wouldn't

have them. Oh, my God. But I'm happy for them to do 19 sets in a row. That's so good. To regret alien stock. But I've just gone blank on their name there, Matt. Because you were emailing the manager. What was that name?

Oh, yes. Oh, sorry, I did not understand what that was about. Now it's all adding up. Yeah, that's like... Thank you so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's in US dollars and you were like, you were working it out. So I thought, I let Matt help me book this band this week. Remember where they called it the terrestrials as well?

Oh, yes, yes. Oh, now I know what you're talking about. Thank you so much for, yes. Foreign life form. Foreign life form are going to pay 19 sets to make up for the fact that they could not get on at alien stock. And they're going to cover Hymbo and... and nobody loves a Bogan by Arizona. Absolutely, they're going to be there.

And Connie's going to be driving around for some reason. Frantically. Frantically. Frantically. Frantically. Bage is just the funniest call. I hope I'm remembering that, right? Oh, so funny.

All right, so we've got four inductees. So I'm going to read out the names. Dave's on the stage. He's ready to hype you up. What an event to be coming in on number one episode of Block 2025. That's right. I'm going to make this big. Jess is hyping up, Dave.

Yep. Hands on butts Sorry Hands on Hotel Beautiful If you Thank you If you haven't heard it before Dave sort of

He hypes up With some weak wordplay No just say hype so Come on We got to go All right Here we go Four inductees

This week Are you ready Yes From Mitchum In Great Britain Welcome to the club Harry Clark Harry Clark

I give a fuck What That's not weak That's strong From Norwich In Great Britain Welcome in Amanda

Hullie? Amanda Hully, not in a hurry. Yeah, take it slow. Come on in. From, oh, address, I know you can only assume from deep within the fortress of the malls based on the email, just I think your name's Monica, but your official title is MC. MC legend.

What's, can you tell me what that's what I'm going on after? Pardon? Is that what's a play on? Come on. They're MC nay. Oh. Like master of ceremonies or whatever, MC, like if they're, oh, yeah, yeah. I thought it might have been like, yeah.

I just wanted to remember what the DJ was in this, but I couldn't remember there's something about banana or something. Oh, no, they were unnamed. Man, come on. Remember that they were promoting it for a bit, but then they dropped out. They were called DJ Caramel or... I do not recall this. Do you remember they were...

No, but... They were... Alien stock, they were promoting for a while, and then they dropped out. I don't remember that at all. They were... Just searching your dog DJ. He's got one more name to ring. I know, but like, I just sound crazy.

Uh, a DJ blasted dubstep to a bare dance floor. That was at the... Something else? Uh... and the other DJ reference was an unnamed DJ who played slightly dusty radio is from Skrillex and Justin Boeh-Bone. There was someone else that was involved us who were in the promo of the event.

And it was banana? No, but it was like a funny name like that. They were, before it went to Vegas. Oh, Disco Donnie? Yes, Disco Donny. Okay. He was not a DJ. Yeah, but it sounds like a DJ net.

No, you know what it made me... What are you fucking year-budding us? You were wrong. It made me think of, who was the trivia host? He was called someone like that. Oh, no, I don't want to look stupid. Let's really keep fucking digging And then you're wrong

And then you go, well, but he sounds like a DJ You know what, I'm not supporting you on this last one No, just say the last one No, but I'll come around I reckon DJ Donnie does sound like a disco Let me say that again MC disco Donnie Yes, now that's nice

That's pretty good That's really good day And finally from Preston here in Melbourne Uh, welcome to the club Tia Evans Tia, great to see you. Woo! Thank you for coming back for that.

Thank you so much to, bloody hell, what a great bunch of names here. Tia Evans, MC, Amanda Hully, Harry Clark, make yourselves at home. Grab yourself a grey drink and just get ready to party. Slopes up! And now, there's something...

No, surely we have to end on Slurps Up. I mean, we do, but we're got one inductee in at the Trip TripTrip Club. Fantastic. The Triple Triptage Club. These people have been on the shadow level or above for nine consecutive years. Do you have time to hear a pitch from Martin Drabwick, Hampshire, a patron? He reckons that something we could do is each person who gets in a trip trip club. They get to be the official legal custodian of a previous episode.

So we start, you know, and we can backdate the last few. But, you know, so this person, you know, welcome into the triple triptage club. You're the official guardian of death's burials other. I see. Okay, great, great. Interesting. What do you think? Maybe we can figure that out for next time.

We'll figure out for next time because we've got to do some backdating. But just, yeah, I had that scheduled to bring up with you today. And then Martin, and I'm going to say, nearly pissed me off, Martin. Okay. Because he followed up again. I'm like, mate, just because I haven't replied, doesn't mean that I haven't read it and I'm about to do something about it. Sure.

Like, can you not read my mind? I'm so sorry I didn't reply. I can't remember where you said it to me. But anyway, it's a great idea. And sorry, you have to follow up. Now, one inducting to the triple triptage club. This is someone who's been on the shout-out level or above for nine straight years. Unbelievable.

I can't get my head around that. Dave, how are we honoring them this week? I'm going to salute them. I'm going to give them a little compliment. And then Jess is going to give him a little kiss. Okay, great. And in future weeks, we will backdate and give you an episode. Okay.

You're the custodian of. But for now, it is a salute. It's a kiss. It's a compliment. Now, this person, and they get into it. It's a secret extra place inside. So we've got the Triptage Club and there's a door. I can't remember what we said, but it's like,

I think you get an artist painting of you on the wall. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Done by an artist. You got a painting. Someone like, you know, like a... Manxie. Or a Bob Lazar type.

Sure. He'll draw a pencil version of how he remembers he saw you first. All right. Dave, you're ready? I'm so ready. Jesse, you're ready? Yep. Welcome in to the TripTrip Ditch Club.

From Holt in the Australian Capital Territory. It's Robert Riddell. Robert, you are my sunshine. Salute. And then I guess in the future This is the power I say I officially decree you the holder of the blah blah But we'll figure out what that is

Maybe next week, all the way, whenever I don't know when it will be Because we've done a few of these episodes already True We'll figure it out Oh God, yeah, maybe next year Next year Next year

I think it's a beautiful way to start Yes, 2026 Healthy Which I think is going to be a great year for us It feels like it I think it's going to be a great year Where everything goes great Yep

genuinely can't wait let's wrap this up thank you so much for joining us for blockbuster turbo 2025 it's the saddest time of year in many ways because it's the longest time between now and the next block but it is only 10 months away and maybe you know if if i can get the vote up and we annex august maybe it's nine months away but we've got some Christmas stuff coming up the Christmas special is kishmish I should say in in December and a month of Patreon bonus episodes that are Christmas themed that's I fucking love Christmas. Yeah, we know, mate.

We know. We know. We know. Okay. But, yeah, great report, Matt. Jess has been an honour as always. Happy block, Dave. Happy block, Jeff.

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