Do Go On - 529 - Operation Flagship

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

In December 1985, around 160 people won tickets to a Washington Commanders game, including a free pre-game brunch and a bunch of extra prizes! The catch? None of those "winners" made it to the football game that day ... This is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 07:39 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).For all our important links: https://linktr.ee/dogoonpod Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/Jess Writes A Rom-Com: https://shows.acast.com/jess-writes-a-rom-comOur awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.usmarshals.gov/who-we-are/history/historical-reading-room/fugitive-investigative-strike-teams-no-such-thing-free-lunchhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/12/18/how-u-s-marshals-used-redskins-tickets-to-bust-fugitives-in-1985-sting/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Flagshiphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LsNBA2XwXUhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1985/12/17/hook-line-38/60d7fcbb-ec63-465f-89a9-34d6d12bc66f/?nonce=32ea02fdb73b44d5ada0b7db2260bf82&utm_source=email&utm_medium=ret-transactional-email&utm_campaign=magic-link-failed-login&utm_email= Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dev Warnocky, and as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Whoa! Hey, that's the dynamic duo.

Are in the house. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Who are the dynamic duo? Well, if you have to ask, you're probably not in the dynamic duo. Damn it! Look to your left, look to your right. I've got no one on my left or right. Well, that one, that doesn't really work in that instance, I guess.

Yeah. I'm slightly to you, right? Yeah, you are. I'm dead ahead. You are. We're going to mana, we're going to. We could do an arm wrestle over this big table. If we had longer arms.

Yeah. Feels like we should be debating right now. We already have the vibe of we've been working all day, and this is the last thing we have to record, and we've got the sillies. But this is the first thing we're recording today. No, but we've been called in for an extra day. We don't actually do Fridays.

Is this normally what you're just like on Friday? On Friday, so I'm insane. I shouldn't be trusted. You get it all out on one day. That's actually smart. And then the weekend, you know, spend it with a family and you're normal. Uh-huh.

What's normal for you? Less this. Okay. You've never seen me normal. More what? You've never seen me normal. Uh-huh. More visits to the zoo.

Sure. Yeah. That's normal. Which one? Do you have the three-park super pass? I do have the three-park super bus. Bloody hell. So you can go to the zoo at any point.

At any point. And you've got three to choose from. Yeah. And plus, I think you can go. maybe go to some interstate ones. The beauty is that none of them are really near you at all. Yeah, it's great. All of them's a journey.

I love it. Because you love a drive. I love a drive. I haven't actually made it out to the Hillsville Sanctuary. Really? You must. It's arguably the best one. Really?

That's where most of the native animals are. Yeah. And I'm sorry, Dave, do you hate Australia? Do you hate Australian animals? I've just told you. I've just said I haven't been there. Tall puppy syndrome. Unbelievable.

It doesn't apply to animals, mate. Go check out those dingoes. Same really doesn't mean I disagree. It's been going, that's exciting news. I grew the cultural cringe years ago, or so I thought. You're part of the problem, Dave. I do remember the Birds of Pray show when I was in primis school, went to Hills.

I was very entertaining, but just not. I haven't been. I can't get a straight answer out of you right now. Well, you may as well go on with the show. Well, have you been to Werribee Zoo since they moved the elephants out to their new multi-hector super park? It's fantastic. Yeah, great.

Have you been? I don't know. Yes or no. No. Just say yes. Just say yes, just say yes out of principle. Yes, out of principle. Yes.

Well, then you must have had a great day out. It was really nice. Now, Dave, what is this show all about for new listeners? Is it all about sort of quite tedious arguments that make no sense to most of theses? No, that's in my other podcast, zoo debate. Okay, that comes out on Wednesday. So, Wednesdays is for Do you Go On. Where we take an intense to report on a topic often suggested to us by one of the listeners.

We go away, do a bit of research, bring it back to the group in the form of a year 9, 10, And sometimes year 11 level level, start of year 11, not the end. For our American listeners, what is that? Is that, what are this? They've got to school. Sophomore. Sophomore. Sophomore.

Softmore. Middle school, is that something? Yes, that is something. Great. And I'm a senior in the quad. Maybe I'm going to go to prom this year. I haven't decided yet. Oh, that means.

What is that? It's not good. No. That means you got no one to go with. I didn't. I need it. I need it. I need it.

Okay. Yeah. I might go to prom this year. I don't know yet. I haven't really decided. I'm playing it cool. I got a few offers, but yeah. Is that anything?

He does not have any offers. Yeah, and that guy's like 49. Why is that old man? Yeah, I've been held back a couple of times. The police have been called. Yeah. I'm, you know, I'm studying extra hard this year. And, yeah, I think I'm going to finally make it all the way to prom.

I think I could be king. Sorry, so. Both of me. Are you a turtle in a suit? Are you Otto from The Simpsons? Yeah. No. No, no, I'm a brand new character.

No, no, no, I'm Gregory Johnsonthall. So how this show works, Dave? Yeah, so it's someone's turn to reporter on time. It's your turn, Jess. I'm actually the backup quarterback, and yeah, I throw a dart, absolute dart, if you just put me in coach. I won't. You cut. And Jess, it's your turn to do a report.

We want to start with a question to get us onto topic. Yes. Do you have a question? Because Matt and I, we don't know what the topic's going to be. No, and nor should you. I haven't been snooping. It's a secret. I've not been looking.

Voted on or selected by you. Voted on by the wonderful people on our Patreon. The question to get us onto the topic is, what is the name of the Washington NFL team? Today, first. Give him a go. Oh, has it been? renamed. It has been renamed, yes.

Okay. There was a season or two where they were known as football team, I think. That's really very funny. The Washington football. Do you know the new name? I don't think I know the new name. I know it and I thought it was something different for ages. I thought it was commandeers, which makes no sense. Oh, it's not that. It's the commanders. Dave, got it. Well, I think Bob, who does a score has a bit more integrity than that and he'll give me the point there.

For what? For saying the incorrect thing? No, well, for pronouncing it funny. That would be pretty silly of Bob. Bob, Bob, listen to me. I need that point. I think if you look at it's very rare. Historically, I need the point. It's very rare that Jess asks the question that I will know more than Dave.

So the Washington commanders. Commanders, there you go. Now, this story is set at a time before they were the commanders, but I will just be calling them the commanders. Oh, it's about the team. In a way, but they're related to the story. So let me, I'll start the story and then you'll understand. But it has been suggested by a few people, including Kendra Mickles from Charlotte, North Carolina, Ali Forbes from Des Moines, Iowa, Tim Vand.

Someone had to come from there. Her and Bill Bryson. Oh, fuck so. First line of one of his classic books is, I was born in Des Moines, Iowa. Someone had to be. I can literally never even get through the list of names. Without me bringing up Bill Price. Without, you're interrupting to say something about someone's name.

You also had a, you missed an opportunity for a tedious. Well, no, I didn't miss an opportunity. I bit my tongue. So you're proving you can do it and then you don't do it immediately. Hang on. So you bait me twice in a row? Oh, you go fishing and you're upset. You got a, you caught one.

Shut, but let me say four names. Well, they better not be from 1966 or one other tedious thing I go. on about. It's also been suggested by Tim Vandenright from Belgium and Benji Bauerowman from the Netherlands. Canals. Oh my God. You've got some for everyone. Thank you for those four people.

It's international suggestions. Yeah, from all over the place. America and Europe. All over. All over. The big two. So on the morning of December 15, 19. 1885.

Okay. Flagship International Sports TV, a brand new sports TV channel, was hosting their first big public event. It's called Flagship International Sports TV. Correct. That sounds like a placeholder in a book or something, like where they can't say, you know, Fox Sports or something. Yeah, yeah.

HBO. Flagship International Sports TV. I think it's good stuff. Generic TV presents. Is this a report about the 985 Chicago Bears? No. Okay. Thanks for asking.

It would have been weird that you asked a question about Washington, I guess. But they have a famously great team, apparently. At that time, absolutely. I only know that because they did a dance. They released a hit rap song called the Chicago Bears Shuffle or something. And it's that sort of, you know, that kind of politicians doing a rap kind of stuff. Oh, yeah. Dda.

Bidibidipa, sub in a hip hip hip hop. And is it plays as a film clip? And they're doing it? It plays. There's a film clip. And they're doing this sort of side-to-s. side shuffle. It's, it's corny as hell, but it's amazing as well.

That sounds beautiful. Oh my God, that could have been a line from the song. It's corny as hell, amazing as well. Uh, uh, oh, oh, do the touchdown. Yeah, uh, uh, uh, and the quarterback's sort of, you know, like a real dorky kind of guy, but he put sunnies on, you know, and maybe his hats backwards, that kind of fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's sick. That sounds awesome. Do yourself a favor. Yeah, stop watching this. Yeah. I imagine that's going to come up. Sorry to skip ahead. For my report about the Chicago Bears.

Is it really? No. No. So, Flagship International, they're hosting an event held at the Washington Convention Center. A hundred or so guests had been randomly selected, each winning tickets to the Washington Commander's home game that day where they'd be playing the Cincinnati Bengals. This was an awesome prize as tickets were hard to come by. Washington was on a real streak of over 150 straight sellouts.

Whoa. Wow. Better yet, the outcome of the game would determine who would go to the playoffs. So these were highly coveted tickets. What you, that Jess hasn't mentioned, this was a 20 seat venue. Yeah, highly covered. I don't know if your cellars, can't be wrong. Yeah.

So these people have like won tickets to this game, but the day only got better from there. The ticket winners were treated to a pre-game party with a buffet brunch, cheerleaders, mascots, and even more prizes to be drawn on the day, including the chance to win season tickets, which at that time, the waiting list for season tickets was over 25 years. Oh, whoa. Wow. Well, you're not going to get them in time.

I want them for next year. You get them? Isn't that crazy? They're going to kill a bunch of current season ticket holders. That is crazy. It's the only way. Yeah, you've got to sacrifice them. That's how you get them.

Imagine it's so funny at the selling point, it's like, you get to go to this brunch and there's going to be cheerleaders. Okay, that feels awkward. They're just cheering next year. Hey, eat that omelet. But buffet. I love a buffet. You love a buffet.

Oh, my God. Give us a bee. So it's like this sort of like, I guess not quite corporate, but like a fun sort of prize event. You can win extra prizes and then they all get sort of shuttle bus to the game and it's really exciting. So the grand prize was an all expenses paid trip to the Super Bowl in New Orleans the following month. Okay, that's awesome. So like you've already won tickets to the game. You can win season tickets and or tickets to the Super Bowl, huge.

This sounds so good. So the lucky ticket winners arrived early in the morning. And the excitement was palpable. They couldn't believe how lucky they were. To be there at this fun event, being treated like celebrities with their fellow Washington fans. What an absolute dream. What a dream.

But being football fans wasn't the only thing these lucky winners had in common. They were also all wanted by police. Yes. This is a sting. Oh, wow. Oh, man. Oh, oxygen briefly did not get into my brain and I almost passed out. That is so funny.

We're so lucky. Oh, my God, that is so funny. What, how can you, that is, oh my God. It's really fun. That's like the start of Dave's special has got a very similar premise. Yeah. I thought who used ever killed someone or not told him about it. Yeah.

He sets his whole special up like it's a sting operation. But I mean, and as good as that is, it's no Super Bowl tickets. Yeah, that is awesome. That is so funny. It's really good stuff. Oh, my God. So this was, in fact, a sting operation conducted by the U.S. Marshal Service and the Metropolitan Police Department in Washington, D.C.

Between 1981 and 1986, the U.S. Marshal Service conducted a series of 9th, operations called Fugitive Investigation Strike Team or Fist. Great. They've worked backwards from that for sure. 100%. How can we get the T, team? Team, I guess. With the aim of capturing thousands of wanted fugitives in the United States. This is from the US Marshall website. The first Fist operation was designed as a pilot project to focus on fugitive felons. The objectives were to reduce case backlogs and to apprehend as many fugitives as possible

within the largest district and shortest possible time, yet remain cost effective. So they're kind of like, you know, it's a, you know, wham-bam, thank you ma'am kind of situation. Yeah, well, we're just going to get a few cheerleaders, bit of a buffet going on. It's so cruel. And then the marshals, they're like, what, now that they're not needing those seats, has they all been taken away? Who's getting the season tickets? Tommy Lee Jones.

On October 6, 1981. I don't care. I didn't kill my wife. I don't care. I don't care. That's a nonchal hunt. Yeah. I don't care.

I don't give a shit. I didn't kill my wife. Bit of fun. We're quoting the fugitive. It's making that clear for everybody. That was just a conversation I heard earlier. He didn't kill his wife. Matt didn't kill his wife.

I didn't kill my wife. And Dave does not care. Dave does not care. I don't care. Dave is very cold. Yeah. On October 6, 1981, Fugitive Investigative Strike Team 1

began in Southern District of 4th. Florida. The large volume of drug trafficking and violence-related crimes concentrated in that area indicated that Miami was the city most urgently in need of a fugitive investigation strike team. After five weeks, the operation concluded with the arrest of 76 fugitive felons. An analysis showed that 55% of the fugitives arrested had a criminal history involving narcotics. Prior arrests of these 76 fugitives totaled 491 criminal incidents, on average, six previous crimes per arrestee. So the average six crimes each? Yeah. Wow. 76 people, 491 crimes. Oh, this is like, this is right in the war on drugs as well, isn't it? Yeah. And this is just

sort of them explaining how these operations started back in the early 80s. No, I'm not as excited anymore. I thought they were like proper criminals. These guys are just, sounds like they were just involved in making people have a nice time. Yeah, just importing tons and tons of illegal drugs. Yeah. And you're not excited about their topic of today's report? Oh no, the topic's fancy. I'm just not, I don't, I thought it was a more righteous.

There were like 87 murderers. Okay. But these were just more like party people. These ones that happened five, four years before, the one I'm talking about today. I'm going to start listening a little closer. There's a great idea. In 1984, Fist 7 was the largest and most successful Fugitive Manhattan. Are you going to laugh every time I say Fist?

Yeah. It's really funny. It's pretty funny. And they call it seven. Fist V-E-1-1. That's right. I had to write seven in brackets because I was like, I can't remember what the Roman numerals are. VII, I was whatever.

It was the largest and most successful fugitive manhunt in law enforcement history. The operation was conducted throughout eight eastern states over an eight-week period and resulted in the arrest of 3,309 fugitive felons. That's amazing. That's huge. Like a big number. Yes. We don't know what this.

they did. Let's assume they're all murderers. I think they're all bad and bad murderers. Not ones who murdered for good reasons. For good. Yeah. Yeah. Which we know it's possible. Dexter.

Yeah. Kills killers. Yeah. So you kill one person to, you know, it's like the trolley problem. Dexter's the guy on the trolley. Yeah. And he's going, I'm saving their lives by killing this guy here. Yeah.

Batman on the other hand's going, no, just kill all those people. You know what I mean? Yeah. And one's a hero and one's a villain. Yeah. Oh, my. Oh, Batman's a hero? Yeah, we worship him.

Yeah, Batman, every time you don't kill the Joker, you basically, you've got blood on your hands because you don't have blood. You don't have Joker's blood on your hands, but you've got a lot of other blood on your hands. I can't say it more succinctly than that. He actually can't. Others could, but he simply cannot.

That is, that's crazy. Can I just ask, what are you guys doing for fist? Oh, man. Have I made my fist plans this year, yeah? I, every year I try to make fist bigger and bigger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's always hard to beat last year's fist. Oh, and at the end of the month, you go, how can I possibly top that?

Well, this year, I'm going to go beyond the elbow. Metaphorically speaking, that's right. I'm going to go all the way up. Yeah, yeah. Up fist. Are they still fissing? I don't know. Okay.

Probably not, you know, these days. Can't do anything anymore. Can't even fisting on. You can't even fist criminals. I know you still see people finger criminals, but... Very rarely you say you get fisted. Very rarely. Not enough fisting them.

From the US Marshal side again. As in previous operations, Fist 7 utilised scams to apprehend a number of fugitives. These included a package delivery scam under the identification of the Brooklyn Bridge delivery service. and also job offers from the prior offender's employment opportunity. That one feels like really kicking them while they're down. And one in which younger fugitives were attracted by a prize offer of free tickets to a Boy George concert,

complete with dinner for two and the use of a limo for the evening. So they're just like, yeah. Do you reckon they're you told Boy George about that? Well, Boy George was one of the criminals they were after. The Washington Commanders weren't really told about the upcoming one. So Boy George probably didn't know. because there were no tickets to them. What?

Just want to make that clear, there were no tickets to the Boy George concert. There was no limo? I don't know if I'm following anymore. So can I ask, was there a dinner for two? That's up to them. Yeah, that happens in the big house. How they spend their evening is up to them. There you go.

So in all cases, the fugitives were arrested when they tried to claim their packages or prizes at a specified location. It's such a slown. They claim them at the police office? Yeah, imagine. The police office? Yeah. What do you call the police office?

The police office? The local police office. I don't know how else you could. You could possibly say it any differently. So surely they work at the police office. Yeah, they do. You've nailed it in one and you're looking at it's like there's another word for it. The fire office.

Yes. The police office. Yes. And the headmaster's office. That's right. Spent a long time there, do you. Yeah, I do. And he said it.

And he said if I, if I visit one more time, I'm not going to be allowed to go to prom. And I've said, Dean, you speak. Think. Whoa. And he said, Get out of my office. I said, you get, I'll say,

and I said him, you got to stick up your ass, bro. Get it out. And get on with your life. Because the way you're living right now, it's not good for you. It's not good for your wife.

And your kids, they don't like you anymore. I tell you what, I said, they don't like you anymore. What? You know, I'm friends of them.

I actually deal I sold him some fake IDs I shouldn't have said that and they said to me not only do we not love our dad anymore we don't even like him whoa we don't even like him

we don't get on with him oh that's sad I said I hey honestly bro if you need to talk you know where I am yeah you said that to the dean

I said that to the dean I said that to the dean after say get the stick out of your ass you said if you need to talk yeah I'd say that the dean. It's a roller coaster, isn't it? He broke down in my arms.

In your arms. He broke down in my arms. Is that how I would say it? It's so hard to go from not pronouncing any ours to over pronouncing them sometimes. And then even adding ours in when there aren't any. And that's, that's American. Well, that's an Australian being American. Yeah.

You know what I mean? And this goes out to you too as well. If you ever need to talk, you know where my office is. Yeah. It's easy to get a word in, isn't it? Oh, yeah. I'm going to talk. Hey, two of these, I'm pointing in my ears.

You're putting it one ear. I'm pointing at one ear. Two of these. Two of these. One here. And if you have a look on the other side, it's another one there. Almost identical, but kind of reversed. Mirror image.

And ideally identical, but, you know, I was a natural birth. sisters, not twins. And I guess on the way out. Jesus Christ. One of them got a little little dink. They had to go and collect their prizes, okay? They had to go collect their prizes. It would be so hardy to be like, as they put the cuffs on you, what, there's no boy George

concert? No, there's one later that's, it's brutal. It's not brutal, but like pretty funny. That's brutal, but you're right, the one about jobs. Yeah, that feels. They're like, we're going to turn things around. I'm going to go straight. going to go. And then you have to remember that like it's not that they're just previously incarcerated

people. They are wanted fugitives. Like they're they're on the run. So it's yeah, but still. But for the marshals, arresting fugitives away from their home was a much safer way because they're often caught off guard and also unarmed. Right. I was going to ask that because it feels like you know their address to give them the invitation. So why don't you just go get them? But it's like easier than kicking the door down and maybe getting shot at. Yeah. And like turning up, let's say you turn up at their address but they're not home, that alerts them that you're after them, so then they flee. You never see them again.

But this day there's casually walking, you know, wearing a hoodie or whatever, and go, hey, I'm just here for the thing? Oh, no. Wait, this is a police office. Oh, hang on a second. This is a police office. Station. Oh, yeah, it's good. Train station, police station, fire station.

the Dean's station Post station Do you think When they walk in and say Where's the Boy George concert And they just get handcuffs on them A cop comes in and starts singing Comeer, comeer, comeer, come in a year

Comeer, comeer, comeer to yourself A bit of fun I think if you're a police Obviously you would do that, yes Yes And is there are there any other Boy Joy songs? Boy Joy songs I think that might be the only boy joy show

The Boy Joy show Hang on, let me think I'm just, oh I've got to think of other boy joy songs Is that how they got away with it by misspelling George on the poster? This boy joish. Boy joosh. Boy joys songs. Yeah, to the J.

Boy jojooch. Boy joj songs. No, I think it's kind of a chameleon. There's one more. There's one more. One more what? Boy jojuch. I think there's a solo boy joeych song and that's him with his outfit, the culture club.

Uh-huh. But no, I think that's it. But maybe it, I think probably in England he had more hits. Yeah, right. But there's one that I think that I know, which means that there's only one of the one. Yeah, no, I think I'm the same. Anyway. But he's still tours.

Yeah. Yeah, I think the people who love him. Yeah. They would know. Are you about to Google his songs? No, unless you want me to. I don't. I just, I was about to start on the actual topic of today and I wanted to get into it rather

than in a minute's time have. Okay. That's the name of his song. All right. I'll look it up now. And then I'll have to repeat what I said. George. Is this real name George Boy? Yeah, it's boy, George, George.

That's a really dumb question unless the answer is yes. I thought you guys were just... George Allen O'Dowd. No, we're doing the songs. He definitely has other songs. Do you really want to hurt me? That's it. That's solo?

That's with Culture Club. Whoa, we had a number one hit with everything I own. But that was in the UK. It doesn't look like a chartered in Australia. The crying game's got a lot of plays. on the internet too, so there we go. I don't think it. It doesn't look like he ever charted in Australia. You know what? I'm going to send his management and email now see if he wants to play at the

Triptage Club tonight. See if they respond in time. Send. That was clearly the sound of you tapping on the top of your closed laptop. There's a video of me now. So open your laptop again. Sorry, Patreon. Did he ever do a bond theme?

Oh, that'd be good. A good boy George Bond theme. Boy George. No. Not that I know it. That's weird. Don't you, right? Just hitting sand now. Great.

Hopefully Boy George gets back to us. We'll see. Sorry, boy George. Boy George. So did you really want to hurt me never make it to Australia? Oh no, do you really want to hurt me was also Culture Club? And both were number one hits in Australia. Don't worry about it.

So he never had a solo hit in Australia. In Australia. Okay, let's get to the main event. So this next operation, the focus of today's story, was known as Operation Flagship. In brackets, fist nine. Oh, my God. So that TV station was bullshit.

Is that why it had such a bullshit name? I identified that immediately. I was like, they can't exist. Can we hear the name again? No. I'll get to it in two seconds. Sorry, it's just so bad. It's so good.

But it has a purpose. So Chief Deputy U.S. Marshal, Tobias P. Roche, from the District of Columbia. and US Marshal Herbert M. Rutherford noted the upro of support for the Washington commanders, particularly the difficulty in acquiring tickets for their sold-out home games, and decided it would make a good cover for their operation. From an article written in 1985 for the Washington Post, first, Tobias wrote to 29-year-old Chief Deputy U.S. Marshal for the District of Columbia

used a little psychology to figure out how to trick 101 fugitives. People are motivated towards prize-winning, towards monetary gain, said Roche. This is them describing him. He is low-key, meticulously suited and has an office with the cleanest desk you'd ever want. You'd ever want. Yeah.

Any cleaner, it's too clean. Yeah, it's like creepy clean. This is the right level. This is perfect. You know who else who has clean desks? People who just don't work, you know? People who never visit it. Never there.

Doesn't mean anything. Well, then it would get dusty. Oh, true. Yeah. So if you're there and using it, it's clean. If you never start working, you never get dusty. Oh, that's true. Is that deep?

It's deep, but it's beautiful. Thank you. I think, yeah, it's a modern take on the Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss. Yeah, and it's also about capitalism. Oh, my God, yes. And the man. Exactly. Which we all believe in.

We love the man. We love the man. Love them all. We love capitalism. So this is Roche again saying, you hear about sweepstakes and free prizes and people calling up to be the 20th caller to win something. So he's like, people love. to win monetary stuff. They love prizes.

This guy's got insights. He's 29. People love to win money. People love to win money. I don't really get it, but I see a pattern. I've never really thought about it like that. But yeah, I think you might be right. And he's added pretty high up with his, like, you know, whatever position he was holding.

He is the chief deputy U.S. Marshal for the District of Columbia. I think he's too young to go around with a middle initial like that. Okay. That's an old man's game. Yeah. What is his name? Peter B. Thettingthwaite or something. Yep. Roche.

Broche. Peter B. Thettheworthingth. Are you guys listening at all? Oh, apparently. I'm not. I thought it was Roche. No, no, no, no. It's Peter Biththewthlet or Flette. And I'm adding it with a mustache. And if I say Roche again later, it's somebody else. Yeah.

Basically, this isn't the way that the US Marshal Service usually did things, but stings can yield large halls. And Roche had done this sort of thing before. So he says, I did the boy George Sting in Hartford. which was in November of 84, when, as we said, people were invited to a Boy George concert and offered two free tickets and dinner for two and a limo.

And also, apparently, a VIP, a photo session with him as well. A bit of fun. Do they at least get that? They did get that on the way to prison, yes. The mugshot had Boy George in the background. Yeah, it's only right. Technically, you had a photo shoot with Lord George.

When did we lie? When did we lie? So Roche was the one who originally pitched the idea and it was picked up by the US Marshals. Washington Post again says, the Marshal Service assigned Robert Leschorn, senior inspector for enforcement operations, to work with Roche on the brunch.

And he said, Bob and I sat down and basically talked about distractions. Videos, balloons, said Roche. Two things, videos and balloons. They really aren't giving their fugitives a lot of credit. Yeah. It was Lechon's idea to have a deputy marshal in a chicken costume. He's an ideas, guys.

Like a mascot type thing? Yeah. You have to make the situation believable, said Roche, and put people in the psychological frame of mind to be at ease. And I'm most at ease with a person and a mascot. It's really a chicken suit. A chicken one, yeah. That's relaxing. And there's also the kind of things you can really overthink, because people aren't expecting that things are drug busts or...

Totally. You know? People don't think everything's going to be a sting or a surprise party or anything. Yeah, yeah. But so it's funny that I like that they're overthinking anyway. Oh, you spoiled it. Because it's like, it's going to be mid-December when this thing happens. They're like, should we have Santa there?

And somebody's like, no, we're not having Santa. Like Santa got nixed. And I don't really understand the logic. Well, not everyone likes Santa, okay? Not everyone's. Oh, freak people are out. Not into Christmas, all right? We're only going to get like a certain percentage of the population?

RSVP. Chicken suits, that's not putting off anyone. That's universal. Everyone loves chickens. Yeah. Also, inside the chicken suits, they've got like a gun, like, strapped to their thigh or something. Yes. In case stuff could do.

Chicken thigh. So in November of 1985, invitations to the pregame party were mailed to the last known addresses of approximately 3,000 wanted people. About half of the invitations were returned because the suspects had moved. The invitations were sent by the fictitious firm Flagship International Sports Television, which shares the same acronym with Fugitive Investigative Strike Team. Oh, wow. This is Fist 9. It's so funny because there's no reason for them to give clues like that.

that. No. You know, that's like a, like a TV villain. It's just for them, exactly. Why have you left breadcrumbs for people to figure it out? Yeah. That's smugly laughing at them. Yeah. Yeah, and if you think that's bad, there's more. Um, they, the recipients were told in the letters that they'd won tickets to the Commander's Bengals game and they're invited to the pre-game brunch at the Washington Convention Centre on the morning of December 15, 1985. On top of that, they'd get to enter the raffle to win 10 season tickets for the Washington commanders and the grand prize of a week long, all expenses paid trip to New Orleans to watch the Super Bowl. So it's a big deal.

According to Carla Hall writing for The Washington Post, the fugitives were wanted for various felonies, including assault, robbery, burglary, escape, narcotics violations, sexual assault, arson, fraud, or a combination thereof. There you go, Matt. Yeah, are they bad enough for you? They're pretty bad. Yeah. I mean, escaping, that's bad if they were guilty.

Sure. But sometimes they didn't kill their wife. Exactly. Sometimes they escape the train and they go back to the hospital where they work and they work out where the one-armed man is. That's right. They're still technically a fugitive. But what are they going to do? Otherwise, just go to death row and get, you know, the chair.

Yeah. Cop it on the chin? Yeah. Oh, well, that's the system. Just how it works. They're not going to get them all right. Is that the attitude you expect them to take? That's just a question for the listeners.

So that was for escape, but all the others you'll find with them being one. I mean, what's the fraud? Is it someone going, oh, I'm actually really good in bed? No, you're not. Oh, no. Prison. Prison. Life.

Oh, no. Three strikes. That's your third time you're lied about being good in bed. I didn't know my ex-wife was here. I thought I'd killed her. I mean, I thought I didn't. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Where's the game?

Anyway, where's my point of George? Can I have my ticket to the game, please? So of the 3,000 invitations that were sent, about 167 reply, like they RSVPed, yes. Okay, great. And I reckon- It's so embarrassing. This would be the worst. They're like, they're like, I'm happy to do a stretch of time in jail, but everyone's

making fun of me here now. Yeah. We came to get arrested. It's so embarrassing. It's pretty embarrassing. Sorry, so you've just proven you're on the top 5% of the dumbest criminals here. Yeah. Congratulations.

And I reckon part of why people suggested this topic is because of the small details that went into planning that kind of gave, it gives a vibe that the cops are fucking around a little bit. I reckon a big part of why people voted for it is fist. Was that put in the... No. Oh, okay. That's a bonus. That's a bonus. That's just a little joy.

Little clues or winks were left in several places. Not just the fake TV station sharing initials with fugitive investigative strike team, but the invitation letters sent by the moment. Marshalls were signed, I, Michael, Dettnor, which is wanted spelled backwards. So it was I am wanted. My God. How cringe is that? Can you spell it? I.

So I dot Michael. Yeah. So I am initials and then Dettnor, D-E-T-N-A-W, which is wanted backwards. Oh my God. I can't really, I saw a movie recently where it was like this, they were looking for this guy. and they realize he was under a nondoploom, which was an anagram of his name? I'm like, why would you just pick a different name?

You're talking about Harry Potter? Yeah, I mean, is that an exact? Like, it's probably happened a lot of times. No, I think it's only been done in Harry Potter. Well, that's not a series that I watch, so no, it wasn't that. Well, somebody was ripping off Harry Potter then. Huh. Wouldn't be the first.

I only watch movies for Adam. adults. Okay. So I don't know why he was suggesting. You only watch porn. I don't watch adult films. Oh my God, guys. I've got to tell you, I was watching a beautiful adult film

the other night. I highly recommend it. Oh, did you see the new Mission Impossible? Possible? No, I only watch Adult Films. Mission Impossible. What is that? Finding the G-SPOM?

Yeah. I've only ever seen the Missionary Impossible series. Is that something? That's great. We will not to missionary. It just doesn't work. It's impossible. It can't be done.

Then turn Ghost Protocol one of the other Mission Impossible's into it. Procter. Yeah, prostate, ghost prostate. Yeah. Missionary impossible. Ghost prostate. Column. Yeah.

Wait, what's the colon at the end? Protocol. Oh, prostate colon. Sorry, apologies. Yeah. I thought you were just putting a random double dot at the end. I'm like, there is a colon in Mission Impossible. Why have you bumped it to the end?

We just put the colon where it should be at the end. Is that something? That's something. Fistian impossible. That's back to the report. Fiscian. So we have... Fisdain Fisd.

This is my son Fisdian. We could just have it with Felix or Christian. Yeah. Fiscian. Fisdian. So they're getting their letters are sent from I am wanted. And when the fugitives called, they had to call a phone number and confirm their attendance, an operator would redirect them to flagship's business manager, Marcus Kran, which is NARC, spelled backwards.

Oh my God. While the hold music. No, but the hold music was, I fought the law. And the law one. Isn't that horrific? They're just, like, they're toying with them. Yeah. I fought the law.

And what's the ruse for how we got your address or why we chose you to be a winner of this? Oh, I think it's just like you were randomly chosen or something. Did you forget you entered? Yeah, no, we're just mailed a bunch of people. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure. If any fugitives are listening, if you don't remember entering the competition,

maybe just think twice, maybe spell the names backwards and see what happens. Yeah. Obviously, in this day and age, we get scam calls all the time. Yep. You've, like, you know, I will get a call from my actual bank and be like, no, I'm going to hang up and call you back.

Yeah. No, whatever. They're like, and if it's the actual bank, they'd be like, yeah, that's a great idea. You should do that. But like, back then, you could have scammed anyone so easy. It sounds like. And you're... Yeah, I never entered that competition.

I'd love to win it. You're saying that sympathetically for current day, modern scammers. It's, it's so hard out there. It's harder now. It's difficult. Yeah, it would have been easy back in the 80s. Yeah. Like, I mean, you're, you're...

You would have seen Dave the beekeeper. With Jason State them, absolutely. Is that the one with the, and that's where he's taking down these, or is that a different? The scammers, yeah, that's right. Yeah, there's like, you know, it's a well-oiled machine, but they've got a, it's a very expensive, a lot of overheads. And people don't talk about that. Right. Scammers are working hard.

Yeah, they've got to pay the bills no matter what. You know, the rent's coming out. Yeah. That's tough. It's tough to be a scammer. Yeah. My heart goes out to them. So, over 150 marshals and police officers spent.

six weeks training for the operation. Every single role at the fake event was played by law enforcement officers. From officials to ushers to cleaning staff to cheerleaders to admin staff, they were all cops. The cheerleaders are cops. I'll get to them in a set. So deputy marshals were brought in from outside of Washington, D.C. As the plan is feared that some of the fugitives might recognize the local marshals because they would have been the ones guarding the courtrooms or taking them to jail. Hang on, that chicken suit looks familiar.

Hang on a second. The way that chicken carries itself looks a lot like the guy who marched me into jail. They're all sort of the same thing where you're like, how much are you, do you think people are paying attention? You know, hang on a second. Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, it's probably still smart not to use those same people. Yeah.

They've all got the same. Back then, every cop looked the same with that mustache. Yeah. And hair. You know, like, when they're undercover in like a Jason Bourne movie or whatever, they're always, like, dressed as garbage men with, like, beanies and big jackets on. I remember they're like touching their ear. If anyone touching your ear, that's a cop. That's Marky Nark.

Yeah. And the funky bunch. You almost just touched your ear just then. I am wearing a wire right now, Dave. This conversation is being recorded. What? I'm so sorry. You have to tell me that.

Dave, you also love slow horses. Great show. But there was in the most recent season, and one of the agents, a higher shop one, she's on this undercover mission she's wearing one of those spirally earpieces I'm like could we not have

Like the full cord out of the back Yeah Just put an airport in or something Yeah That anyone would be wearing in downtown London Yeah it's uh I'm like come on It's a bit far fetched

Thankfully that sting went perfectly to plan Wow No spoilers What? Sorry Jess I will not be spoiling Or maybe it didn't Which I won't be spoiling Whoa

But which was it? It went well or it didn't? I won't say. We won't say. But it's one of the other. Well, that might have gone somewhere in the book. Because now someone will see one of those spirally things and go, oh, I've already heard about this. Turn it on.

I hate this show now. Great. What's the point? Great. Thanks. It's been ruined. Oh, thanks for nothing. Thanks a lot.

Oh, great. Oh, geez. Thanks a lot. So is it at the actual football game? No, it's at the convention center, you know, not far away. and then the idea is you come to, like the games at like 1 o'clock in the afternoon. Oh, right, come to the brunch. You're coming to a brunch in the morning.

There's like prizes and all sorts of fun stuff. And then there's shuttle buses that'll take you up to the game. Up to the football office. That's right, the football office. Excellent. So the Roos was convincing enough that on the morning of December 15, a lawyer representing the actual local broadcaster for the game went to the police command post to issue a cease and desist order.

Because they're like, this is a new TV station taking people to the game. they're like, no, no, no, we're the broadcasters of that game. And they're like, you don't have the appropriate license to operate in the district. And I guess the US Marshals must have been like, but we're the feds. That's us. Just showing a little bit of badge. You're going to have to piss off. Please.

Yeah. Because they're like, we don't actually have tickets. Nobody's coming to the game. There's no TV station. The buses are to go to jail. We've already paid for the chicken suit. Please. There's no refunds on that.

Please. The cheerleads have been training for weeks. they've been doing their tosses. They haven't at all. Which brings us to the big day. Their preparations had included two previous dress rehearsals, and the marshals and the police officers arrived at the convention center at 5.30 a.m. to set up the operation.

They had one more dress rehearsal, where Bob Lashon, Senior Inspector for Enforcement Operations, can be seen in archival footage, reminding people that they need to smile. That's great. Smile, God damn it! He says, remember one thing. We're cops.

to smile today. We don't normally smile at bandits. Today we have to smile. Because he's like, you know, they're used to being like quite serious people. So he's like, we've got to be like, hey, we're really put on like a customer service kind of vibe. Great to see you. Thanks so much. Have you seen the chicken? Well, I think I'm misunderstanding. Why do they need to have any of those things? Once they're in through the door, maybe have two sets of doors. They get in where they're expect everything to be, someone takes them, cuffs them into a back room, out the back in a van. You know, why are they putting on a show? The next person comes in, repeat.

Why are you having to do it? Yeah, especially, like, if they were originally thinking, I mean, they're sending invitations to 3,000 people. That's a pretty huge scale. But they know 150, say, are coming. It's like they're thinking about it as if they're, you know, Ashton Cutscher or something. They're like, they're like, we've really got to sell it. But are they filming it all for it? For some sort of a pilot.

It is filmed. Yeah, well, there you go. I think they were thinking ahead. Yeah, they were thinking of what will the early 2000s TV be like. Yeah, maybe they were thinking, you know what, maybe we could start this channel for real. Yeah. Fist TV. Fist TV.

That could be really fun. Fist TV. You already got a jingle. You are really good. So to minimize risk, the plan is set up two separate areas in the convention center, one area to greet the guests and another where they're. they could separate the fugitives into smaller batches to make arrests. So, yeah, good point.

It maybe depends on the layout of the place. Like, I'm imagining like a foyer, and let's say you check in there, and then you go through a door and they could just arrest you straight away, but it'd have to sort of be one at the time. Yeah, true. So, yeah, they're probably like, we're saying that it starts at this time. Yeah. What if 150 rock up?

And if, like, I suppose if you line them up to do it one at a time, they've got more time to look around at everybody else and go, Hang on, I know that guy. Yeah. Or this doesn't feel right. This is suss. Yeah, yeah. Maybe make a run for it.

So, like, let them all in at once. Like, hooray. And they'd be also hoping that, you know, the, they're not all criminal mates. Yeah, exactly. You know, going, oh, that's so weird. Well, we did a bank robbery together. We could drive down together. Yeah.

You're hoping for that. I guess they also know who they're targeting. Yes. Known associates. I've seen cop shows. Yeah. You know, they'll have a board with photos. These guys are linked.

I think we're thinking more about it than they have. These guys are linked. We can't put out an APB on these guys. What's an APB? It doesn't matter. All points bulletin. Oh. Is that right?

Yeah. What does that mean? Be on lookout for. Or a bolo. What does that mean? There's a bolow out for them be on lookout for. Oh, that makes more sense than all points bulletin. We're going to look for this person.

Look it up, make sure I'm right. No, no, I believe you. I'm not going to look it up. I also love cop shows. So the event started at 9 a.m. But that didn't stop attendees from turning up as early as 8 a.m in anticipation. They are excited. They're podcast listeners.

Also, dare I say, they're being invited to a brunch at 9 a.m. That's breakfast. Yeah. Brunch at its earliest 10 a.m. Agreed. Yeah. Agreed. And that's still like breakfast.

That's still breakfast. Yeah. I would say. But yeah, if I'm invited to a brunch at 10, I'm like, that's reasonable. If it's like 11.30, that can be brunch, but I've probably eaten something before I've come. Because I'm like... Well, that's what brunch is, though, isn't it? Yeah. It's a breakfast lunch. Like I'm having one main meal instead of two. Yeah. Exactly. 9 a.m. That's breakfast. Yep. Yeah. Like McDonald's breakfast, what, till 10.30.

Yeah. I think they've got it right. Although... I haven't got a lot of things right, McDonald's, but they've got that right. At the airport recently, it was 11.30. Do you remember that? I do remember that. Which is what I think it should be a bit late. Because this is what I think McDonald should do.

Breakfast till 10.30? Brunch, 1030 till 12, then regular. And then all day breakfast. What do you think about this? Any business that does breakfast, all day breakfast. It's just like, you don't know when people are getting up. What about night shift workers? We don't live in this 9 to 5, everyone's cookie cutter world.

You know what I mean? We're all different. We're all unique. We're all individuals. Yeah. And cafe shouldn't be allowed to close at 2pm. It's too early. So from Washington Post, Roche was in a tuxedo,

handling reservations and passing out name tags. It's very cute. Tocetos fun. I know. Before they were escorted to a party room on the second floor. Name tags like arson. Yes. Fraud.

It was your crime. Yeah. So we know how dangerous they are, murder. Oh, shit. They color coded? They are. Oh. Some were ecstatic, Roche said, some were reserved.

They were looking forward to the game. Some were dressed up in Washington outfits. Oh. As attendees were welcomed, Deputy Marshals posing as flagship international employees, checked their IDs, verified their identities through phone calls with the backroom staff, and gave them colour-coded name tags. Code words such as double winner were used to identify fugitives considered especially dangerous. These fugitives usually had warrants out for crimes like aggravated assault,

armed robbery, sexual assault and murder, or sometimes a combination of those. And they'd say, you're a double winner. Yeah, so they'd be calling the back office, like just confirming, you know, people were actually invited to this event and they'd have their ID and they'd check them and go, yeah, oh, wonderful, a double winner, congratulations. But that is not good to be a double winner. Oh. Because it means you've done some pretty bad crimes.

Oh. Yeah. They're thinking, man, that calmer stuff is nonsense, isn't it? Yeah, that's bullshit. I was double bad. Now I'm a double winner. Yeah, what? This is sick.

I'm choosing to learn nothing from this. Soon they're arrested. Now you're a two-time loser. Whoa. I'm still refusing to learn. Undercover officers carried balloons, sang commanders cheers, served the buffet brunch, and played videos from the commander's first Super Bowl win

on the convention center screens. So, yeah, the offices were undercover in all sorts of roles, like we were saying before. Basically, any person there was a cop. But some had a pretty specific purpose. So one officer, like I mentioned, was wearing the knock-off San Diego chicken suit. And he was kind of parading around the convention centre while also monitoring if fugitives were becoming suspicious. Because, like, a mascot moves pretty freely around people and no one really suspects them of being anything other than a man in a suit.

Yes. That's so true. And you could really hide a wire in that pretty easily. Yeah. So he's kind of like keeping a – he's doing vibe. checks. He's feeling at the temperature of the room. And have people brought in like family members, their kids and that kind of stuff? Well, they're winning, they're winning two tickets. Yeah. So yes. But I'm not, it's never really explained how that worked. Did anyone bring in other fugitives?

They're like, whoa. That would be so good. I've got to bring my friend Tony. I'm bringing the crime boss in. Yeah. I'm really going to show him, but I think this is going to really help me climb up the organization. So the, he's not like, sorry. He says everyone. He sees everyone. rested around him. He's like, huh? Got away with it again, I guess. I guess I'll go. I've mentioned earlier that offices were disguised as cheerleaders. In footage I've seen, it's not the classic Bring It On cheerleader outfit that immediately came to mind for me. They're not doing backflips, unfortunately. They're dressed in like tuxedo jackets and bow ties. They're doing some chants. They're more like hyped girls.

Oh, bottomless, though? They are wearing pants. Trousers for UK listeners. Okay. So, yeah. I don't understand. The distressed in tuxedos. They're in tuxedos. The cheerleaders.

Chalaching in tuxedo. Are they, uh, they fellas are dames? They're dames. Right. And that's for a specific reason also. Oh. Because, um, they're in that kind of role so that they as cheerleaders. I'm just sorry, Jess.

Yep. Women in trousers? I mean, if they don't, if the creams don't realize something is up, then that's on them. It is 1985, you know? Yeah. Like. Oh, power suits. there now I get it

were they big pants at least they're wearing their big pants they're wearing big pants shoulder pants yeah okay yeah sparkly bow ties that kind of thing you get the idea so they're explaining the suit so they're in that kind of role so that they as cheerleaders and pretty women

can be greeting and welcoming people to the event and discreetly frisk the fugitives for concealed weapons by offering hugs and putting their arms around them in their way so it'll be these guys there's footage of them they're like they check in, oh, you're a double winner, hooray! And then two, like, either side of them or at least one cheerleader will be like, woo, congratulations!

And like they're escorting them off to area, so it's a woman with hands around him, and they're frisking them. They're having a little feel for, oh, I think that they've got like a something concealed on the back of the pants here. Or are they just happy to be greeted by me? Oh, mm-hmm. You know, Dave, recently, you witnessed me, have my crotch. come up as suspicious.

There was nothing subtle about your frescoe. Yeah, he really made sure I wasn't packing heat. It was one of those new body scans at the airport, where you stand in the machine, it scans you, you step forward. And usually they just say, you know, keep going, but they pulled you aside and I was like, you're in front of me, and it's going on here, we look over at the monitor because it has the outline of a human figure.

and there was a hot zone, a suspicious zone, and it was literally just the cross. Yeah, but had you forgotten that you just had your Prince Albert piercing done? Oh, that's true. And I was fully erect. Yeah. Yeah. It was red hot on the screen.

It was red and yeah. It's infection. Hey, you could say, but it was explosives. I guess I were looking for explosives. He's like, so I don't know, something around there. Has that area been described as explosive before? Not for a long time. I guess it's still an explosion if it's dust.

Yeah, that's true. Residue. Exposive resitu. Yeah, that's what that was there. Like, there seems to be an ancient residue. Yeah, but we can't tell. But no, that was uncomfortable. Yeah, I bet.

I'm glad you can laugh about it now. At the time, I was concerned for you. I wouldn't mean I was laughing about it at the time. You're okay? You put it in the group chat, I was immediately laughing at it. And then later went, oh, should I have maybe been like, oh, I hope that's a good thing. I thought it was like, I mean, he goes, do want to go do it in private? I'm like, no, let's just get it done.

No, I'll just show you. I love the Band-Aid treatment on this. I'd like it to be over now, please. Yeah. There's nothing. I'm pretty sure there's nothing there. I wish you got a photo of the screen because it was literally the only bit with red hot, red hot. I wonder why.

It was like the Electric 6 film clip for Danger High Voltage. Were you mid-pissing your pants at the time? Oh, yes, and I do have chlamydia. Is that the burning one? Yeah. Oh, do you know, or crabs or whatever the burning one is. Whatever, I've got a roll. I've got information.

It's easy to say yes. Like, you guys don't know. Is it that one? Yeah. Which ones make you burn your urethra? Don't know, mate. I don't have a urethra. Had it removed.

So there. Who's the full now? Can't get me. I would have got myself. Okay, so they're frisking them. Yes. Much like Matt was frisked. To minimize risk and to make it easier to control, the winner, when they would, like, draw

prizes of like, oh, you've won. It's probably when you're, like, checking in, I guess. They'd be like, oh, congratulations. Oh, why, yes, we've already marked your ticket as winner. You've won. So they were taken in groups of around 14 to 15. I also saw another number say between 10 and 20, 14 and 15 fits in there. Let's say around that.

Love it. They were taken in small groups into another. the room in the convention center under the guise of the, you know, they're going to draw the raffle. So it's a bit confusing. But a guy called Louis McKinney, he was the chief of enforcement operations for the US Marshals, posed as the top hat wearing master of ceremonies. Step right up. There's no need for these costumes.

But it's pretty fun. You got a ring mask? It's just to make sure that at no state, they're doing a lot of like, look over here, look over here, just so that nobody gets suspicious. That's why they're dressing like magicians. Yeah. And these are dangerous. These are dangerous, most of them are relatively dangerous criminals as well.

So I guess you don't, even if you are pretty confident they're not armed. It doesn't mean they're not. And, yeah. And top hat, great spot for a spare gun. Oh, yeah, machine gun up there. Yeah. The cops are allowed to have guns. Just want to make that nice and clear.

I don't understand they're allowed to, but it'd be weird if they were open carrying, you know. Yes, that would be weird, especially if you're just a top hat wearing master of ceremonies. So the groups of fugitives were told to sit down in the auditorium, and they listened to a few remarks from McKinney before receiving their prizes. But this was a moment of truth. And while McKinney was giving a short speech, 25 members of the Special Operations Group waited at the doors on either side of the room, awaiting McKinney's signal.

In his 2009 memoir, One Marshall's Badge, McKinney recalled his address to one of the groups. One Marshall's Badge. So this is him writing about it. Dave, can you come up with a better one while Justice talking? One, Marshall's a fadge. Wait. Like,

porn parodies. Oh, okay. Isn't that what you want it? No, I wanted a better. That's usually what you want. In his defense, that is usually what you're asking. That's just my go-to. That's all I'm good for.

I mean, that's fantastic, of course. But I'm thinking, like, a better title for a retired U.S. Marshall. Yeah. Long Road to Justice. Oh, there you go. And now I do a porn parody of that. Long Road to Just Tits. or something.

Long cock to justice. There you go. Long cock to justice. Yeah, great. Get it all in there. That's what she said. So many ways. Dust.

So this is Louis McKinney writing about it. Knowing that many of this crowd of Washington fans, I talked about the exciting upcoming game and interacted with them. We had a prearranged signal with the Special Operations Group, which was supposed to enter the room when it heard me say, surprise. That's so cool. Are you imagine to keep going, surprise? Surprise.

Not quite. And they all walking? And people are not coming in here. Surprise. Yes. To my surprise, nothing had happened after I'd given the signal. Thinking that I should repeat the cue louder, I decided to try again. Today really is your lucky day, I shouted above the conversation, and I've got a big surprise for you.

And the special ops squad burst into the room surrounding the fugitives as they sat stunned. They were then handcuffed and escorted outside to awaiting buses. To the game. To the game. And then prison. Come on. You're good. Yeah.

And so we're saying before, like, I'm not 100% sure exactly how this works, because I assume they did one group at a time and then somehow escorted everyone out without other fugitive seeing them being escorted out in handcuffs. But surely as you're whittling down the groups, eventually there's like 20 people left and they're like, there's a small group, I guess. Yeah. They're already off to the game. Yeah, we've only got a couple of buses.

They're doing them. But we haven't had breakfast yet. Maybe they have. Maybe they haven't. breakfast. Yeah, so the Busters a round trip will pick you back up. So you stay here. Yeah, enjoy.

Have another pancake. You're a double winner. You get another pancake. It really is cruel because they're like, you got a chance to win. You are winners. Yeah. You're arrested. Yeah.

Oh. I know. It's like, it feels a bit sort of sneaky and ethically murky, doesn't it? But also, again, these are not just like, these are wanted. These are people on the run. And they, yeah. But I don't know. It's interesting and weird, but I do find it pretty.

funny as well. I think there's definitely room for a fugitive sequel in this. I don't know. There's one called US Marshall. So maybe a sequel to US Marshalls. A three cool. A three cool. Yeah. Does that ever been done? I don't think so, but I think this could be it. So we bring back to, this story's strong enough. Bring back Tommy Lee. Of course. He could be in charge. This be, he'd be awesome. Yeah, he could be the 29 year old girl. All right, everybody. This is why I want to see. You know, this is one of the speeches at the start. I mean, he's such a smiley guy. Surprise. Well, you saw him as Two-Face in Batman Forever or whichever one it was.

He could not sanction Jim Carrey's profanery. No. I always forget that that's him. So, a total of 101 fugitives were arrested by the end of the operation. That could be the name of it. 101. U.S. Marshals 2, 101 damnations or something. That's really good.

That's very good. Working title. Dave will punch it up. But straight off the top of the, done. Yeah, that's pretty good. Pretty good placeholder. Are we thinking we're going to get Dr. Richard Kimball to come back? I think so.

Dick Kimball is too good of a name to not use again. It'd be silly not too. He's one of the guys who's... He's already cleared his name, but he's somehow been invited. Just an admin error. He's invited. He's like, oh, this is great. I thought that...

My wife loved football. Yeah. This was for you, a wife. Yeah. A great crossover. He could have called her, like, why didn't you call it by her name, mate? He only sees her as an extension of himself. Yeah, okay.

That's so classic. That's so fucking classic. Yeah, a bit of arm. candy. Man of the 80s, am I right? Not like today. Not like today. Cucks.

So. Men of the 80s in the 90s. So the operation. You can say the Harrison Ford is a man of the 80s. Yeah, is a man of the 80s. And late 70s. And he's still alive today. So.

And today. Makes you think. That does make you think. That's actually all true. It's crazy. So the crims have been arrested. They have. Two days after the operation, an editorial by the Washington Post

summarized the criminal records of the arrested fugitives, saying 15 warrants for assault, five for robbery, six for burglary, four for escape, 19 for bond default or bail violations, 18 for narcotics, 59 for probation or parole violations, and 41 for a variety of charges

from sexual assault to arson to forgery. So lots of different things going on there. I found this story, like we were just saying, it's a bit funny, also a bit cringe. because it felt like, initially I was like, this feels like a lot of police resources and a lot of money to like trick a bunch of people. The total cost of Operation Flagship amounted to $22,000

or approximately 218 per arrest. In comparison, the US Marshal Service typically spent an average of about 1,200 per arrest. So it's actually a huge savings. And the cops had a bit of fun. They get to play dress-ups and stuff. They never get to do that in their line of work. And why do people become cops?

They like doing dress-ups. And they like to have fun. Yeah. And they're like, they see a situation, they're like, how do I make this more fun? Exactly. How about this for a book title name? The Crim's Rise to the Top. Or Crim de la Crim.

Crim. You know, for that cop. Crim of the Crop. Crim of the Crop. Yeah, Crim de la Crim is something. Yeah, Crim of the cop. That's it. That's it.

It's like the most baffling name for it. Colan US Marshall's autobiography Yeah You gotta really spell it out You probably tried to go Something like that in the publisher went Yeah we're going with this shitty title

Whatever you read it before Which was terrible It was really bad It was like my story of my badge or something Yeah But our bad ones A bad That one is bad

Yes You know what I mean Ours are like Christmas movies That are so bad They're good Yeah Yeah

And that's the line we tow Yes That's exciting So yeah, I was like, this feels like a real waste of money, but actually it's like a very efficient way of doing it. And Roche said later of talking about sting operations, they're pretty safe procedures. You know who's coming, you know their backgrounds, what their crimes are, you know what they look like. You've scheduled the location you want them to be in, and it's cost efficient. You're not spending overtime going to all their relatives' houses looking for them.

And again, you go to their relatives house that tees, that lets them know you're looking for them. This way they come to you and they do 1001 in one. day one morning. Wow. Pretty crazy. They must have felt awesome that they pulled it off. Yeah. Imagine the adrenaline.

I had a look at some of the other sting operations and there was another fist operation that also happened in 1985 that was pretty creative and a little chaotic. They sent letters suggesting the fugitives had won a free flight, a weekend in the Bahamas and $350 in spending money. Now that's just a good, that's a fracken, that's a great deal. I'll take it. I'll take it. right?

Yeah. Fuck, yeah. No, my God. What you said was exactly what I was thinking. The prize was sent from Punoz Airlines, which does not exist, but it does, in Spanish, mean, fist. So, again, they're just having a bit of fun. Oh, wow. So they're not going for any Spanish-speaking criminals, obviously.

Yeah, I'm guessing not. You'd be like, fist airlines. Which is a pretty common language in America. Like, it would be one of the most. widely spoken outside of English, I would have thought. Yeah, that's true. We'll make sure. So they're really flying close to the sun.

Punio. Yeah, it's a bold decision. Fisting close to the sun. They're fisting close to the sun. Is that anything? With a fist made of wax. Oh, so it'll melt. Yeah.

Got it. You know, like Icarus. What? Fisticus. Dave, can you fix any of this? I don't think I can. I think after 10 years, so like a silence is actually incredibly easy to edit out. But as soon as there is a silence, Matt's like, well, I better feel this.

Exactly. And then it makes it impossible to edit it out. I've got to keep talking. I don't think it's impossible. For some reason, AJ just refuses to do it. And someone commented on a recent episode post that they're not sure that AJ is editing them at all. Is he playing some long con on us? I'm just trusting that he's editing them.

Maybe he just finds us really funny. And he's like, this is all good stuff. Whereas I've got to tell you, when I'm editing just rights of wrongcom, I'm brutal. Yeah, I used to be brutal on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Certainly to me, you two, gave you all the air you needed. He might look so stupid. Yeah.

He let us look stupid. I let you look fantastic, which is your natural state. So, prizes sent from Punoz Airlines. Of the 200 fugitives who received a letter, 14 showed up at Miami International Airport and found the Punoi Airlines desk set up next to Air Hades check-in counters.

Most of the fugitives had accepted the offer of being picked up in a limo and driven to the airport. Police later said that offering a drive to the airport helps ensure that the suspects won't carry any weapons knowing that there are metal detectors before boarding their flights. Of course, you're not going to take that to it. But also, if you've already picked them up,

why are you taking them to the airport? Like, you've got them. Why did they do that? I don't know. Or maybe the, I was going to say maybe the limo isn't driven by a cop, but like just make it driven by a cop. Yeah. But I guess they're in the back and if they realize you're not going on the airport. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know. There'd be a reason. It's like, there's no way that the people setting this up haven't thought it through. True. I mean, like, once you're in a police car, you can't like open the back door, can you? You can't open a limo door maybe and just roll out. Paint a cop car limo coloured. Oh, that's not bad.

That's not bad. That's a stretch cop car. Yeah. That's sick, actually. So one by one, the fugitives arrived to claim their free trip to the Bahamas and were swiftly arrested. Apparently other airport staff were not given a heads up, so I can only imagine it would have been like a bit, maybe like a bit scary or a bit dramatic or exciting when the first couple got arrested, but by like the 10th, you're like, okay, I get it. And the desk is set up with some card tables. Yeah.

I like hand-drawn signage. And other like airport staff are just sort of standing. running around watching now. Yeah. And nobody thinks that's weird. From Wikipedia, two of the arrested fugitives did not realize the nature of the operation. One phoned from prison to ask if he could reschedule his flight.

Oh. Oh, so sorry. I've got arrested the airport, but I'm going to be out of here soon. I'll surely make bail. Oh, ma'am. If you think that's bad, hang on. While another begged cops to take care of this next week, noting she'd won a trip and wanted to enjoy her vacation first.

No. She's like, I get it, but can I go to prison next week, please? I've won a flight. And they're like, that was us. I promise I'll come back this time. And so funny to be like, look, I'll definitely not go on the run again. I know. One fugitive, this, I feel, oh, it's clever but icky.

One fugitive by the name of Marshall Wolfman turned up at the airport himself. He was the only one who didn't accept the limo ride, so he was a bit suss on it. But he stood approximately 100 yards away from the check-in desk, and he was kind of eyeing it suspiciously. So fist operatives did some quick thinking and arranged for a fake page over the loudspeaker for a fictitious person. And that seemed to kind of ease his suspicions that somebody else was being called. Oh, by Puno. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

That's clever. Yeah, he's pretty clever. So he was like, oh, okay. I guess I just never heard of Punoi Airlines. Yeah. I just looked up, apparently, over 40 million American speak Spanish at home. Miami is like, that's a real hot spot for a Spanish speaker. Right.

Yeah. More than there are Australian citizens. Yes. There are Americans who speak Spanish. Yes. It's a bit of a gamble. It's an interesting one. And then so over the last week is, all right, are Puneo Airlines paging a criminal.

Yeah. A criminal, get 44. And they could, like, they literally could have called it anything. Yep. They could have even organized it with a real airline if they wanted to. It could have been called anything airlines. Yeah. Could have been called the Spanish word for,

perfectly real air oh no that would have been suss actually yeah doth protest too much yeah yeah yeah that'd be suss so anyway that was enough to kind of ease his mind so he presented himself at the counter um and was arrested okay he's like honestly i knew it i knew it so it shouldn't count i should have said i know that i agree it feels like a step too far because he had the sense to be suspicious and then they went extra sneaky and tricked him and i think they should have been like Nah, you're all right. You figured it out. You knew one.

You actually win freedom. Yeah, that was sneaky. We're going to take you off the list. And especially because this is brutal, there's a note on Wikipedia that Wolfman was wanted for theft of a rental car. Like, who knows if he maybe had other criminal record? I don't know, but. Like, Avis's or whoever is, you know.

Yeah. You know, some of those rental car, you know, the fees and everything. Yeah. I mean, who's the real criminals? I did not look into him at all, so it's possible he also murdered someone, who knows, but... Oh, well, maybe he stole a rental car to get away from a murder. Exactly, in which case... Yeah, he probably should go to prison.

Yeah, and maybe they'd buried the lead there. Why even bring up the rental car? Thanks, Wikipedia. Maybe he stole a rental car to solve a murder. Whoa! Or stop a murder. Whoa! Or to maybe to donate it to a charity...

Whoa! That was designed to raise money to stop people... you know, getting allergies. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Just like that. Could have been.

We don't know. We don't know. So imagine all the allergies that people might be getting now. Because of these. Because a fist. Because a fiss. Sorry to use that kind of language. It sounds like real ponios to me.

Now, I didn't see it written anywhere. Real fists. But Dave, you were sort of saying before, are they still doing this now? And I, look, I don't. see it written anywhere that it's ended, but there isn't really any other operations written about post-1985. So I assume they still exist, but perhaps don't get to be quite so creative with their operations now. Hard to say. But I assume there's still people investigating

fugitives. I think we can safely assume that. For example, people coming up with a podcast, going for 10 years, hoping that someone will slip up and admit to what they did. I didn't call my wife. Damn it. I don't care. But Operation Flagship... Oh, that I did kill my wife. Did care about that? Got it. We got him. Wait, what?

I knew that was a good line. But Operation Flagship is still seen as a massive success. Writing in 2019, authors Jerry Clark and Ed Palatella described Operation Flagship as one of the most legendary and effective in the history of the US Marshal Service. They attributed its double success to the sheer number of fugitives court in a single operation, while also avoiding the dangers typically a social service. with capturing them at home or on the streets.

Double success, okay, they were double winners. Double winners. Get them. Get them. Get every single one of them. So Operation Flagship inspired a scene in the 1989 film Sea of Love, starring Al Pacino. In the film, the New York City Police Department stages a similar sting operation, luring 45 wanted criminals with outstanding warrants to a ballroom, where they were told they could have breakfast with members of the New York Yankees. Once inside, detectives informed the criminals.

that they are under arrest and police officers wearing Yankee shirts flood into the ballroom. Oh, they didn't need to be wearing them. That was just for fun. Yeah. They were just also Yankees fans. They were all off to the game, really rubbing salt in the wound. And M-night Shamelan drew inspiration from the, for Operation Flagship for his 2024 film Trap. Did you guys see this at all?

Josh Hartnett plays a dad taking his daughter to a concert and notices that a lot of police are in attendance, and he finds out that the police got a tip off that a known serial killer was going to be at the concert, except Josh Hartnett is the serial killer. Wait, did you just spoil it? No, it's in the trailer. Oh. Yeah. Doesn't he do a big twist at the end normally?

Oh, it turns out he's already dead or something. Now, you've done the spoiler, but I got to be used to go. Because that, M-night Shamillam loves a twist. Loves the twist. I don't know if you've noticed that. There is a bit of a pattern. Really? Interestingly, wow.

There's normally like he sets a pattern and does a twist but he hasn't done that with his films. So I think the long game is he's going to do a film soon without a twist. That's the twist. And people are going to go, what? Oh, that is good. Am not your old dog, you got me. The old dog. The old dog.

So that's just how it's, you know, influenced film a little bit too. I think it's a reference on the Simpsons. Yes, there is a Simpsons reference as well. They win a boat or something. Is that right? In like season nine, I think. And a little fun fact, I guess. Two of the marshals involved in the operation,

Louis McKinney, who was our master of ceremonies. Step right up. That's right. And Stasia Hilton, who was one of the cheerleaders, both went on to become directors of the US Marshal Service. Whoa. Oh, wow. Pretty cool.

In fact, she had retired, and then she's in like a doco talking about it, and she's like, and then the president asked me to unretired. Oh, my God. And I was like, what are you is this? And I think it was Obama. Back for one last job. Yeah, yeah. And it was a really big job.

Big job. For many years, probably. But there you go. That is the story of Operation Flagship. That is fascinating, funny, heartbreaking at times. Yeah. But I didn't know that that is, it sounds like a movie. Yeah, it really does.

Sounds like a ridiculous movie. I can't believe that actually happened. Yeah. Really, really cool. It's a lot of effort. Yes. But, yeah, because I was like, this feels like a waste of. police resources, but then it turns out to save them like a grand per fugitive.

It's pretty good. It's the kind of thing that I think people would have said, like you at the time, there would have been politicians going, what is this clown show? Let me have a look at the numbers. Oh, they're pretty good. I love this clown show. This is fantastic. I've always been a fan of the clown show.

You're very cheap clowns. Yeah. Can you, yeah, just want everyone to know that I okay this clown show. I was always a fan of this. I love clowns. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show, and I really hope the mics are picking up Humphrey, just absolutely lapping up that water here.

That's right. Humphrey, the dog is in the studio with us. And he's lapping. He's lapping up. Well, it is summertime now in Melbourne. And, yeah, Humphrey is worked up a thirst. Why don't you take this time to make sure that your animal at home, your pet has adequate water?

Oh, my God. It's a beautiful message. That's a beautiful message. But also a bit patronising to our listeners, like they can't look after their own animals. But anyway, a few of them would have RSV feed to this stick. So this part of the show is where we thank our great Patreon supporters. Because this is actually everyone's favourite section of show.

A lot of people have skipped over the report. We know that. And fair enough, too, I would. But this week was actually a really good episode. So I'd skip back again, listen to it. Once you finish with this, go back to the start. But yeah, if you want to be involved in this, section of the show, sign up on Patreon.com slash to go on pod. And yeah, the first thing we do

is the Sydney-Shaunberg supporters and above. That's a level of Patreon. I'm explaining this really well and I refuse to redo it. But this section actually has a jingle go, something like this. Fact quote or question. He always remembers the thing. She always remembers the thing. And if you are a Sydney Scheinberg level member or above. You get to give us a factor quote or a question. In this section of the show, you also get to give yourself a title. I read them out live on air.

Never read them before. That's just pre-warning you in case I stumble on any words or if they say anything libelous. It's really up to AJ to edit that out. Now, that's for legal purposes. Yeah, great. You're really distancing yourself from anything. If this is being read out in a court of law, let me just.

just say allegedly, and let me just say, I plead the fifth. Because this would be a great way to get you, as a sting to get you to admit to crimes, even that you hadn't done, just to like say, and the quote this week is, I confess. Honestly, yeah, I really run burgundy it. We could really have, yes, so it's fact quite a question, brag, confession. Bragg or confession, that's really good. First one, this week comes from Sophie Tudor or Shooter, and Dave really got in my head about this. Tudor or shooter?

Why are we still? Why? Shooter. It's shooter, right? It's shooter. Oh, God. I think it's Tudor. So, Sophie, aka group mum, Jess is staying out of this.

Yeah, I'm the smart one. She's staying mum in a way. Group mom is offering us a check-in this week. Love that. I feel like this is for our... Checking into a hotel? Yeah. Our upcoming flights, we get to skip the queue.

Thank God. This sounds like a sting. I keep nearly missing flights. Sophie writes, how are you all doing? To answer my own question, I'm pretty good. It's currently 3.40 a.m. and I'm up with a sad, teething baby. She has had some teething powders and a bottle of milk,

and she's now falling asleep in my arms. Yes, it's nearly 4 a.m., and I've been up since 2.30, but these quiet times where it's just me and her are the absolute best. Oh. Even when something is bothering her and she's crying, we sing. dance, we cuddle, and I find what she needs to make it feel better. These precious moments are what I will remember forever. She seems to be asleep now, and as she's also got a cold, she is gently snoring. I could stay up just watching her all night, but I'll regret that when she's full of energy at 7am,

so I best put her in bed and get some sleep. I hope you're all doing well. Now, I mean, you spend a lot of time typing in your phone there telling us you you're really soaking up these memories. But that's awesome. Love that, Sophie. Make you come back and listen to the memory as read by the words of himself. Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, just, you know, life's short. Get your head out of your phone.

Or your computer or however you talk, maybe it was a tablet. Yeah. Maybe you were dictating it to Siri. Maybe you were doing it as a way to help teach your baby. the language of English. Yeah. Which is, I think, your language because you're from England. And because that's what you wrote to us in.

Yeah. And it's the only one I can speak. At least. At least. Sophie knows English. Yes. Or someone who knows English. Yes.

And can translate into it. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, that's a good point. Yeah. Now, question you two from Sophie. How are you doing? Pretty good. I'm doing well, thank you.

It's often a busy time of year leading up to Christmas with a lot of social things going on. a lot of work that's, you know, you're trying to be, you've got your eye on the price at the end of the year, but it's also a lovely time in Melbourne, as the weather gets a little bit warmer. And so, I'm just trying to live my life. Yeah. So I feel like Dave and I said the same thing, but I said it in two words. You're way more succinct. Yeah, but obviously like a podcast, you try and be a storyteller, you try and be engaging.

Sorry, I'm a journalist, I'm about, I'm about facts. Who, why, what, why, why? Yeah, just it's about boring the listener. Correct. Trying to get them to turn off. Quickly, though. Yes. I bought them, it takes me 10 minutes

You, fucking else I like to let people in By saying Alright, they give them your address Okay You can let them into your house AJ put the beeping sound in now And it will sound like I've said my address

My address is And where's the key Joe, should you keep a key Out the front of a fake rock or something Yeah but I actually Like to keep it in the door Oh great Where the last place people will look

Yeah I actually did get home recently And there was a key in the door And I said Aidan, have you forgotten anything today? And he said, yes, I left the key in the door. But here's the thing. He was aware.

You don't have, at work, you don't have to put the key in to lock the door. Which means he had left, forgot something, went back, opened the door with the key, got what he needed, left without taking the key. That's great. I reckon someone could have broken into your house when they saw that and thought, that's a sting. Yeah. This is a setup. But it's also that because normally you wouldn't leave it in. leaving so it looks like you're probably home.

It's actually really clever. Yes. It's a great security from Aiden. Well done. I'm also well. Love this time of year. Feeling knackard right now. Cannot wait for sleep.

This is a, it's a fresh perspective from me, I know. Thank you so much, Sophie. And it's so funny to respond to someone who's just said they've been up for nearly 24 hours. I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sad. Yeah. Yeah. I've been up for, you know, Well, also multiple hours.

Can't be more specific than that. I know. And, geez, when I go to bed tonight, it could be for 10, 12 hours. Who knows? Not interrupted. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I won't set an alarm.

So I understand fatigue. Let me tell you. I won't set an alarm because, you know, I don't have anything to be up for. Yeah, I don't need to. Which sounds sad, but it's not. It's actually really good. It's actually awesome. It's beautiful.

It's actually fantastic. Okay. Okay. Thank you so much, Sophie. I love that message. So, for... Very sweet. Taking the piss.

But I thought the English, I thought the English liked banter. A bit of banter. They like banter. They like banter. We're hosting the Barmy Army right now, and I thought, you guys like banter. What are the Barmy Army? I don't understand why they call Barmy. Never understood that.

Should probably look into it. Rhymes. Yeah, it's mainly the rhyme. Probably that. Certainly not. But they're just like the English cricket fans. More like Smami Army. Is that something?

Oh. That's good. That's good, bantor. That's good. Good bad. Go to pay that. Yeah. Go pay that back of the net.

Back of the net. Back of the net. Back of the net. he probably does an accent. He's doing an accent, yes. Hey, gang, I just wanted to come on here with some breaking news. Whoa. As you all know, I'm the father.

I'm doing a little noise. You are journalists. News sting. As you all, as you all know, I'm the father of the cutest baby in the world. Oh my God. Coming straight off the back of the last one. Wow. That feels pointed at baby Tudor.

Yeah. Anyway, this baby, full name, Gabriella Reese. I don't know if you want that bleeped out, I guess not. Otherwise, you wouldn't have said it. And as of typing this out, sorry to say that, so slow, you are the first to hear past close family and friends, I guess, apart from close family and friends, perhaps. That my wife and I are expecting our second baby in May.

Woo! Pause for applause to the sex, it says. You just supported the sex. I did two claps. Yep, two times he's had sex. The problem now is my firstborn will have to defend her title as cute as baby. So there's a real dilemma. Oh, yeah.

We have to deal with when the baby comes. Tough having both number one and number two in the world in the same household. That's true. Serena and Venus Williams. I was going to say real Williams sister thing. Yeah, or war brothers. Like that famous. famous sledge when Mark Waugh sledge this English batter, who I kind of remember his name,

is like an insignificant batter. Mark War goes, what are you doing out? Well, he was, he said it with his. What are you doing out? He would have said it with his accent. He's like, sorry, mate, what are you doing out? This is the ashes. This isn't for you, you know, like having him to go.

Yeah, yeah. And he goes, at least I'm the best cricketer in my family. Scorched him. But not really. You know, his brother is very good. Yeah, he's one of the old time. Yeah, he's an all-time great. Sorry.

Nah, fair. I'm one of the best sightners. I'm very proud of my brother. You know, I've got great wrists. Yeah. Famously great wrists. Great wrists. He can bowl as well.

You've never said that about me. Well, you don't have Mark War-level wrists. Fine. But nearly no one does. Fine. Whatever, we're fighting now. Okay. Fine.

Maybe Damien Martin? Just move on. I tried to think is there was a third brother, wasn't there? There was a third. Was a Dean or something? Poor little war. Now, so we're still going on this baby announcement. Sorry for the little detour.

I also wanted to quickly add a couple more recommendations for the movie club because if I don't now, I will forget. My cousin Vinnie and Bowls of Fury. Thank you and keep up the great work. and I need advice on how to decide who will be the reigning cutest baby in the world come summer next year. I'd say like a slips catching competition. Yep. You just edge a few to the babies.

Uh-huh. Yeah, whoever catches the most. Yeah, I think so. That seems like a nice cut and dried way to determine it. Yeah, maybe you have your current one in the gully, sort of Steve Wars' favour. position and then Mark Warren. Was he more like second slip, Dave? First second slip.

He definitely in the slips. Yeah. Beautiful refect. Did you remember that catch he took that was basically the ball was past him? Oh my God. Who could forget that catch? Wow. It was like he, it was Neo all of a sudden.

How did he grab that? It was ridiculous. What a moment. Well, when at the bullet time. I'm sure you appreciate all of that, Adam. I can't remember where you're from, but I have a feeling you're American. Anyway, the last one this week for the fact quote or question comes from Piper Galaher, okay, Chancellor of Shameful.

submitting a fact quote or question with multiple typos. Last Tim, bit of fun. Thank you, Papa. That's a bit of fun. We've got to brag here as well, two bregs in a row. I love that. About four years ago, I made a mistake that really screwed up my life in a big way and cost me all of my friends not to brag, bear with me.

What? I spent the intervening years in relative isolation, kind of being scared to make connections in case I fucked it up again. I'm autistic and anxious, so, Making Friends was hard even before I was preoccupied with that baggage. Well, recently some plans to go to a concert in San Francisco. Man, I hope this was a real concert. Oh, no, not a sting.

Was it a sting concert? They were really, they were really starting to just like, as you come on down, he's going to play all the hits. I thought you're going to say the waiting music was the police. Yeah, imagine. Don't stand, don't stand. But I hadn't even consider that their singer's stings. as well.

That would have really been laying out. I was going to make my question a question about Sting. Oh, that's fun. But then I didn't want in the first sort of paragraph bit, I didn't want you to know it was a Sting. Yes, I'm glad, because that really did hit me hard. Yeah.

You forgot how to breathe. I watched this thing recently, actually. Oh, yeah. Classic film. Oh, it was a classic. Yeah. I didn't say it before. I loved it.

Redford and. Paul Newman. Paul Newman. Mm-hmm. What a combo. Anyway, recently some plans to go to a concert in San Francisco with my sister fell through so I asked a co-worker I've been getting along with to go with me and she agreed. I know this is a bit of a

weird brag and it may not seem like a huge deal but she and I have been hanging out a lot more recently and it finally feels like I'm clawing my way back to some semblance of social normalcy. Before I sign off I would also like to thank you for being the friendly human voices in my ear keeping me sane and making me feel not quite so alone all this time. I know that sounds creepily parisocial, but I just mean it's nice to know I can always count on you lot for a laugh when I need it. Hope you're all well. Cheers and sorry again for the overly personal FQQ.

That's awesome. So good. Hope you have a great time of the concert. Yeah. Sorry that you screwed up your life with a mistake, but man, that makes sense. this blossoming friendship, all the sweeter. So much sweeter.

That's really nice. Nice to be able to acknowledge when, you know, things are turning a corner for you. Really nice. And it is hard to make new friends as an adult. Oh my God, yes. Not for me. I'm not going to back all the time. Yeah, I got too many.

People are texting you, hey, what are you doing tonight? Want to go to a concert? No. I'm having to cull. No, I'm like, oh, too. I'm already going to. I'm already going to two. What do you think I'm tired all the time?

Yeah. Because I went and did some of three, four weeks ago. Yeah, I'm exhausted. I mean your age. Maybe next year, sure. I could squeeze in a movie or something. Yeah. Matt, do you want to see a movie with me next year?

Next year? Yeah. Sure. Great. That slot was taken quickly. Sorry, Dave. Next year after that. Thank you so much, Piper, Adam and Sophie for your facts.

You quotes your questions. Next thing we like to do is shout out to some of other great supporters are on the shout out level or above. And Jess normally comes up with a game based on the topic. Well, I was going to either give them a crime, but that doesn't seem as fun as what they went to that turned out to be a sting. That's really fun.

And are we thinking of these? Are we randomly generating these? I'm not sure I can, I'm not sure there'll be a sting generator. I reckon, we can do this. I reckon, I read out the name and place. Dave says the descriptor. You know, for instance, it would be Boy George and you'd say concert. Right?

But Dave won't say something that makes as much sense as Boy George, I doubt. I can't not say boyge Boy george Okay What do you think Is that? Or do you want I'm happy to take that on otherwise

Oh that you just come up with the things that they were stung at If you want If you want to read them out Oh okay You weren't feeling like coming up with one No no no It's just really fun when he commits to doing it And then by about number six

He's losing his mind So it's really fun Great great great great So maybe we can take turns reading them out Okay First of all I'd like to thank From Bellin in Victoria Hello and thank you to

L C Noel A free slurpy day at 7-Eleven. Oh, on 7-11, they usually do that. Yeah, but they've done a second different one. On 11-7. Yeah. Oh, they got you. Whoa, that's clever.

Yeah. You know the time when you can, like, just take in your own receptacle? Yeah, like, and then they had to start being like, no, you can't bring in a wheelie bin. Yeah, it's gross. That's discarded. I don't care that. It's a new one from the council. It's still, yeah.

I still think you should be eating off it. No. It's love 7-11 dollar day where you go down, you can buy it. They had so many things for $1 each. I think I went five times once. That's crazy, Dave. Just kept going back. I've got a sloping a long time.

Should I get a slob in a long time? Should I get a sloping on the way home? Yes. How was Dave's video? Do you see Dave's video that he posted a few months ago of him taking advantage of all the free things on his birthday? Oh yeah. A lot of those businesses no longer exist. That's so, so funny.

I would feel so embarrassed by every one of those. And you did 20 in a day or something. Yep. You just don't have that thing. No. I mean, I just have shame. That's it.

This would be funny for a video. And it was. I know, it was great. It was great. But it was shameless. It was shameless. Oh,

yeah. It was fantastic. But you're a man without shame. I mean, you used to have a YouTube channel where you'd try it G-strings and stuff. Yeah, that's true.

That sounds weird out of context. I swear there's context there, but we've got no time. I'm not sure they was. Clearly a shameless man. Can I, I want to stop picturing him in a G-string, so I'm going to move on.

No, no, I would like to thank I just tried stuff out from the deep within the fortress of the moles Sometimes it was the ab king pro machine Address unknown

I would like to thank Shane Shane Possibly born in the 80s looking at your email Got sucked in by a sting At Bras and Things Oh 50% off

Yeah Even better Same thing essentially 50% is even better Because you only buy one of them And it's the idea That is better Shane gets invited the email, say, hey, like in his mailbox.

Hey, come on down. Or whatever your local is. Tomorrow, between 9 and 9.15 a. Yeah, Shane. Shane. Shane, come on down. Shane's like, I think I have to. Shane's like, that's a good deal.

Two for one. Bras are expensive. Enjoy Shane. Can I get a pair? Is it two for one as like tops and bottoms? Yeah, like any two for one, do you love those? You can mix them out. And the cops are like, yeah, really, whatever.

Shane, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Honestly? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, whatever you think it is, that's what it is. Buy one, get 10 free. You got 10 minutes and you can take whatever you can carry. Yeah.

Whatever. Yeah, we're selling by the kilo today. We got one of those machines, like, usually there's cash in a box and like we blow it in your face as much as you hear about, but it's just G-strings. And G-strings. I've said G-strings because some bras would probably be too heavy. Yeah, and probably get hit with some wire in the face. Yeah. Bras, yeah, the wires are some heavy, heavy wires.

I know what a bra is. I've definitely seen one. I can have a clasp one with my eyes close. Good luck, Shane. You're like, prove it. I'll do it. Mentally, I was like, no clasp.

Next I'd like to think from a location that's unknown. I should say only if it's Velcro. Velcro glass, yep. Unknown to us. This person's also in the fortress. It's Matt Taylor. Matt Taylor. In your email, maybe you're born in the 50s.

Well, singer from, it couldn't be. Isn't he the singer of chain, Matt Taylor? Am I right in saying that? I don't think I am aware of Matt Taylor's work, but... Well, I might be wrong. But I guess with the connection there, how does he come up with his ideas? Matt is sucked in with an invitation to a...

Make Your Own Jewelry Day. Oh, that's nice. That's fun. That's a good activity. But it's also sad because Matt was like, this is how I'm going to, you know, make my Christmas presents. You're going to really even impress my wife this year. Something handmade. She'll love that.

Instead, I'm going to show you. She loves jewelry. And he was also going to make some for orphans. He was going to give some to orphans. Oh, orphans made jewelry. Yeah, because he just realized that he was on the wrong path. Yeah. And he wanted to make things right.

Right. Sad, isn't it? It was really sad. Sorry, Matt. Should have thought about that before you robbed all those banks. Next up. Fraudulently. From Fall River in Massachusetts, it's Monique Robinette.

Monique Robinette. Oh my God, she's even got Robin a name. She's taking the piss as well. Yeah. She, unfortunately, got set up with tickets to a Wiggles Meet and Greet. Oh. Oh, no. Classic line up.

Stinky Greg. Really? Classic line up. Whoa. Wake up, Jeff. Yeah, that's what it's. You said, you get to wake up Jeff yourself. No, why?

What an honour? What? Yeah. Do I get to, like, would Anthony offer me a snack? Yeah, Anthony, yeah, mashmanana, mashmanana. What? Can you tell Greg? Can you tell Greg, he smells like shit?

Well, he needs heard of, but yeah, you can tell him. All right, you're allowed one. You're allowed one, Greg says. I've heard it. Yeah. Yeah, I know, he says. Yeah. What's it smell like up there?

He's tall as well. Yeah, that's really good. Got him. Absolutely got him. I would like to think from a location unknown to us. It's a Sorsane Hemer. Sorsane Hemmer. Or Sosanay Hemmer.

It's S-A-W-S-A-N-E is the first name. Fantastic name. Fantastic name. Sorsenay, yeah, got supermarket sweep-style invitation. I don't know if you remember that TV show, hosted by Interpe, but at a bunnings. Oh. So you get five minutes, anything into the trolley. you can keep.

You keep it. Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of my ideas are pretty similar. I'm going straight to the unmixed paint. Oh, just pour it in into the trolley. Yeah. I think it was a great idea. Pretty cool.

Yeah, that's really cool. I don't have a backyard or anything. I have no need for any of the expensive stuff. But imagine all that paint you could have. Yeah. Or maybe I could finally win my brother's love. I'd be like, what do you want? Because he's a carpenter.

I've got 38 nail guns. Yeah. Do you love me yet? And he'd say, what the fuck am I going to do with 38 nail guns? And then you go, all right, well. Okay, you're right, you'll tell you what I'll do with them. If you don't say you love me right now. Yes.

You know, and then you put it up to this temple. 38 times. Over the phone. Somehow. So picture this. Yeah. So you're temple right now. Do you love me?

Say it. Say it. Oh, it's me. Can I also think again? I think I was singing sore, by the way. I think that's how I got to. Oh, nice. Yeah, I get that.

I thought it was a good one. I'd be RSVP, I'd down for that. I'd go to jail for that. Anything you like? Anything you like. That's pretty good. There's a good, expensive stuff there. Absolutely.

You just get a whole trolley full of bolts. I'd go nuts on plants. Oh, nuts and bolts. Oh, yeah. I would like to thank, again, from Deeper than the Fortress of the Moles, Nile Hayes. Nile Hayes. Same idea, Lego shop. Ooh.

You can just scoop out as much as you can. Oh, you're not going to pre-made kits? No, pre-made kits, but also no trolley. It's, you can wear any clothes, normal clothes. Yeah. And you can fill pockets, hoods, pouches, uh, socks as much as you can. Undies? Undies, yeah.

G-strings? G-strings. Yeah, I wouldn't recommend. They're actually terrible. Yeah, that'd be a bad idea. Wouldn't contain much. I'm sort of like just where a G-string going, oh, shit. No.

Yeah. Where can I put stuff? Yeah. Between my toes. Yeah. But that's, I'd be up for that. Lego. Yeah, that'd be fun.

Nile, enjoy. Well, actually, don't enjoy your under arrest. Yeah, and also, yeah, put them in your socks, all of a sudden, you're stepping on them. Yeah, that's punishment. No. You're free to go. That's sad.

Next, I'd like to think from Richmond in Tasmania. Hello, and thank you to Benny White. Benny White. gets an invitation to a free, you know, those speed dating things? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this one, it's a speed dating, and Benny is the only one of, like, everyone else there is there to date him, and he gets to date. He's just, that's one on everyone. All right, so you get like two minutes, they sound the horn or whatever, and then they move down, Benny stays still.

Benny stays and they don't go to someone else. They just go to a waiting cell. No one's interested in anybody else but Benny. Yeah. It's the bachelor. It's the bachelor. It's the bachelor. It's sweet bachelor.

Benny, you are the new bachelor. You arrive on the set and they arrest you. It's time to go, Benny. He's like, no, I thought I eliminate the ugly women. You don't get to give a rose. You get to take handcuffs. Yeah. Or is Adam Carnivali taught me recently.

Sounds like. One, manacles. Manacles. Manicles, that's right. Never heard that term before, but on a recent recording of D&D, do go on D&D. Our patron band's show. He's using wild language. Absolutely.

He's a wild guy. I love that guy. A couple more people from Pittsburgh. I would like to thank Brendan Booth. Brendan Booth. Brendan Booth? Pittsburgh Steel Town, you get to take as much molten hot steel, liquid steel. as you can cup in your hands.

For how hell? Ian is touring the world with his game show, isn't he? Yes. First, he's at Lake of Storff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That he's at all worth Bunnings, and now he's at a steel factory. You can, Brendan, anything you like.

Come on down. Bring the family. Bring family, hopefully they've got big hands. What? I've got stuck in this, haven't I? Yeah. The next one's going to be totally different. Okay, great, because that's the last one too,

so this is perfect. All right. Here we go. From, Balahy, am I right in saying that, do you think? Probably not. In somewhere in Great Britain, it's Brighdon McNeice. Do we think that's Northern Ireland?

Oh, Northern Ireland, yep. Is it? Yep. Yeah, okay. Any pronunciations there? No. Everything, so he gets, or they, Brigdon gets a free session at a hair salon, one of those fancy ones.

Oh, okay. Everything you can, anything you can get done in two hours. Belarie, you were. right. Oh, really? Yeah. So. So you go, I want to start with the perm.

All right, now, chemically straighten it out. Okay. Now, I want you to shave a swearward in. Now I want you to die out the swearward in. I think you don't understand how long any of those things take. Anything you want. But you've got the whole stuff. Yeah, no, but it's just a matter of processing time.

You, get on my back hair now. I'm frequently there longer than two hours. Yeah, so you just cut, cutting your hair up in a little sections. Yeah. All right, this part I want blue. This part, I want business like. This part, I want to be ready for my friend's wedding. I'm a groom's book.

As far and sounds, no matter what you've got, you have to walk out with that. That's right. I love it. I wish it was real, but I'm afraid Brigdon, you're underwurst. So Dave, you want to run us through those? Yes, thank you again. And good luck in jail to Brigdon, Brendan, Benny, Nile, Sorsane, Sorsane, Monique, Matt, Shane and Elsie. Oh, my God.

Thank you one and all. The Triptage Club, Dave, you explained so well. Yes, this is our Hall of Fame for people that have been on the shoutout level or above for three consecutive years. They've never dropped off, so we like to enshrined them forever by welcoming them into a space that they, Theodore of the Monster, can never leave, but why would you want to? Because once you're in, we've got everything you could possibly want. We've got food, we've got drink, we've got games, we've got books, we've got Warhammer. Some people are into that.

Some people love that. You can paint those. Go for it. I'll kill a few hours. Absolutely. Of eternity. And we'll just have a great time. And I think we've got a couple of inductees, Matt.

Did you ever hear back? Because, Dave, you also, you book a band to play. Oh, yes. Let me just check my email here, refresh. Oh, I see what's happened. Oh, I've emailed George Boy. Oh. Who it turns out is a good singer.

Oh. And they're available tonight. Oh. So please welcome to the stage. George Boy, everyone. Okay. R&B hits. Oh.

Well, it wasn't quite what we were expecting, but certainly. We can probably request a, I reckon this probably happens a fair bit. Yeah, I'm sure he's got it. He does weddings and everyone's like, you want a boy George? I'm sure he's got a couple of boy George covers. No, I'm George Boy. Up the sleeve. I'm Georgie boy.

And Jess, you normally have a cocktail, something like that. You're behind the bar in the sphere of the mind. So you come up and order something, Matt. Come up and order something. Could I please get the operation? Bang! And then I shoot him in the head. That's huge.

Oh. Well, I got... But it's like a toy gun and it just, it's a, it's like a little flag that says you're under arrest. And it squirts. No, it's a flag. Oh, it's a flag that says you're under arrest? Yes. Oh.

And Dwight, is there a prison inside? Yeah. We've got everything. So, all right, so what I'm hearing, anyone who's in the club already, and there's a thousand or odd of you, don't order any drinks tonight. Just is setting up a real hair-brain scheme. None of them are criminals, though. That's what you think.

Oh, that is what I think until now. Wow. So I've got two inductees into the Triptage Club. Dave's the MC in this theater of the mine scenario here. Just behind the ball, like I said, Dave's going to hype you up with some week web play. Yeah, absolutely. I'm on the door. I'm the security guard.

I'm the muscle. Never realize how funny that is? No, you're standing nearby, though, aren't you, Jess? I've got no muscle left. Oh. You're the muscle now. Oh, no. We're in a lot of trouble if anyone tries to...

Oh, yeah. Don't give anyone ideas. Well, no. We are screwed. Sting's also here. And George Boy. And George Boy. Yeah.

He's a unit. Hey there, Georgie Boy. Is that what that song's about? Yeah. This guy. Yep. Yeah, the 6'4-8 R&B singer. Now, two inductees this week.

Dave, you're ready to hype them up? Absolutely, absolutely, yeah. Woo! You need to hype yourself? I'm a mid-s-in-a-bit of a bit of a... Jess is going to be a little bum-tap here. Here we go. All right, first up, welcome in.

If it's your name, head on in from Smithsburg. Maybe Maryland. It's MD in the US. Kara Hurchin, Rother. More like Kara Hurchin, my brother. And my brother. Woo! And from Merrill in W.I.,

maybe Wisconsin or the West Indies in the United States. It's Megan. Megan. Megan, or Megan. Probably Megan. Maybe Megan. You're making me begging. Megan, I'm begging.

In case it's Megan, what would you do? Megan, I'm Began. Megan, you better than Tegan. Welcome in Megan and Kara. The Timo version of Tegan and Sarah. Now, the last thing we now do is we've opened up a new section of the Trip Ditch Club. It's the Triple Trip Drip Ditch Club. This is for people who've been on the shoutout level or above

for nine straight years, which is absolutely blowing our mind. We've got one inductee this week. And Dave, what happens in this part of the show? Well, I like to give them a salute, which they can obviously watch because they've got access to the video feed on Patreon. So they get to see their salute. Give them a little compliment to thank them for their service. And Jess gives them a little kiss. Yeah.

Amazing. And the, a new thing that. I know I can't remember who suggested this now. Do you remember the idea someone said that though we... Oh, hang on, it's from Martin Drabwick, Hampshire, you writes. Hey, I had a thought about how you could show your appreciations to the members, new members of the Trip, Trip, Trip, British Club. I know this might be a week or so late.

Each person could become the legal custodian of a subject of a do-go-on report in order from the start. So I'm going to quickly update the ones that we haven't done yet. Adam Stoltz, you get episode one. Dave, I don't know if you have the list there. You probably don't because I'm throwing this to you at the very last second. But I can tell you that was the Mona Lisa. Mona Lisa episode.

Adam Stoltz, please, that is now in your custody. Look after it. Justin McCain, episode two. Dave, what would you, how would you describe that one? I believe that was the history of AFL. Oh my God, that's a very important one to hold on to. Now, play Sanging a Cape, episode three. Was that the Beatles?

Was that your first one, Jess? Yeah. Yeah. That's an insane first one. We really didn't know what this was. No. When people come up to us at shows and say, yeah, I came in at, you know, this episode, and then I went back to the start.

I'm like, oh, don't. What do you mean? If I've ever listened back on long road trips to really old episodes, I'm like, ugh. Yeah, we're like Seinfeld, skip season one, you know? Yes. Some people say some of those ones, like episode 10 is one people still say is one of their favorite. I've got the list here if you want to keep going. All right.

Episode four, Becca Buck, that's yours. You're in charge of the Academy Awards. Joe Boyd has episode five. That's Burke and Wheels. Oh, that's one of my personal favorites because that was the first report I wrote. And I think of that as the beginning for me. Oh, I see, yep. Unofficial beginning for me.

Episode six is. Cat McCauley. That's Mary Poppins. Wow. We did that very early. What the heck? Yeah. Daniel Ryan has episode seven. That's Apollo 11, the moon landing. We went big early. Yeah, we did, I guess. And now we're doing the history of ketchup, you know? As voted for. Robert Riddell has episode eight. Episode eight, that's Santa Claus and origin story. Oh my God, appropriate time of year for you to hear about that, Robert Riddell. All right, we got one person today. to induct into, and Dave, you, what do you do?

You give him a salute and you say a word. Yes. Jess, you give him a kiss. Yes. And then Dave, you're going to give them an episode. Absolutely. Which I guess in the future maybe is something I should do. So I want Dave having to do too much.

Salute and a son. He's just a little boy. He is. All right. From Ride in New South Wales, welcome to the triple triptitch club, Tanya Miles. Chanya Miles, I'm saluting you as I say, you can never fail. Salute.

Just and kisses. And we're giving you, we did go big really early because episode nine was the Sydney Olympics opening ceremony. Hell, yeah. Oh, we're like, oh, we've got to pump the break. It's going to real specific. I still feel very passionately about it. Absolutely. And who could forget those horse whistras.

And so, because it could have been the episode could have been the Sydney Olympics. No, no, no, no. We've got to save some of that for later. We've got the closing ceremony to do. And you've also done Kathy Freeman at the, so there's still plenty. Could sort of Nicky Webster by her life story. Jumping Dry Tarima. We've got so many options.

Roy and H.G.'s is a dream. So much juice to squeeze. Shane Hill versus Sir Charles Barkley, if that's who it was. Was that the famous showdown? Anyway, Tanja Miles, welcome into the Triple Trip Drip Ditch Club. Grab yourself a gold-plated cup to have whatever drink you want. Yep. What if you want?

And, yeah. What about we say in that area, you can't be arrested. You cannot be arrested. You have diplomatic immunity. Perfectly said. That brings that episode. Over. But we've had fun.

We've had a good time. That's what it's all about. And it's all about the friendship along the way. Oh, yeah. If you want to suggest a topic like the history of ketchup or this flagship, the Operation Flagship or the Olympics, you can do that. There's a link in the show notes. It's also on our website.

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