Do Go On - 536 - FedEx Flight 705

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

On the 7th of April 1994, at just after 3pm, FedEx Flight 705 departed Memphis, Tennessee for a flight to San Jose, California. What followed was one of the most harrowing and heroic journeys of the 2...0th century.CW: discussion of suicide + plane related turmoil + hammer-based violenceThis is a comedy/history podcast, the report begins at approximately 10:05 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).For all our important links: https://linktr.ee/dogoonpod Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/Jess Writes A Rom-Com: https://shows.acast.com/jess-writes-a-rom-comOur awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://tailstrike.com/database/7-april-1994-fedex-705/ Tailstrike.com Cockpit Voice Recorder Database: A database containing CVR transcripts of aviation accidents and incidentshttps://web.archive.org/web/20180330092721/http://aenlogistics.com/general-interest/remembering-fedex-flight-705/https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/money/industries/logistics/2019/04/05/fedex-plane-hijacking-flight-705/3286453002/Black Box Down podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenjai Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dev Warnikey and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Hello. And Matt Stewart. Hello. Hi, great to be here. So good to be here in your ears. I'm talking to the listeners now, Dave. Obviously I exist outside of your ears, but quite a lot closer to your ears than the listeners is, interestingly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Hey Jess, how good is it to be alive? Summer time, summer loving, having a great one. Yeah. YOW. New year I'm thinking about a new catchphrase. I like it. Do you think that could be mine? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:21 How are you spelling yow? Y-O-W-W-W-W-W-W-W. 3wU-U's. Yow.com. That's great. I love that. That's a good sticker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yow. Yeah. Is it kind of inspired by Chapau? Which isn't one of mine, obviously. No. But also a little bit inspired by hoi, which is one of yours inspired by Michael Jackson. Yes. You get a lot of inspiration from the King of Pop.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Well, I wouldn't say that. Musically. No, no, no, no. Dancing wise? Dancing, yes. I always dance backwards. Nothing else of his is any value to me. Great.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I think it was a bad person. Okay. He's dead. You can't defame the dead. He was a pedophile. What if you would have you could? Interesting to see what AJ does. AJ will be leaving everything in.
Starting point is 00:02:22 As somebody's pointed out recently, we're not sure AJ edits. Oh, hey, he puts the theme song in. That's true. That's true. The edits sings in. Yeah. And sometimes he edits himself in being like, well, actually, insert some sort of nerdy fact here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:37 We appreciate that. Shall I explain how this show works? Please. Okay, so one of the three of us, research is a topic, usually suggesting. to us by our fantastic listeners who each and every one of whom we adore. That's right. I think they're the bees' knees. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Michael Jackson's dead so he can't be listening. And if you're listening now, that's you. Yes. And we think you're great. Best in the biz. Tip top. Whatever biz you're in, you're number one. You're the cat's pajamas.
Starting point is 00:03:04 That's right. Do that a new one? Is that yours? That's a classic. Cats pajamas? That's a big one. Hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I'm not doubting you. I'll make one up now if you like. Please. I'm going to make you up one now. That would be great, thanks. That is the elf's hat. That's better than cats' pajamas. Yeah, but it sort of feels like it's...
Starting point is 00:03:27 It's a bit too festive. I was going to say, we're past the festive season. But it's cute though. It's really cute. You're the garden home's feet. They do have feet. Yeah. Sorry, a little horse noise there.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Sorry. Unrelated. Whoa. Whoa. No, okay. The garden nose beard. Garden of beard. Garden of nose beard.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Oh, yeah, the garden nose beard. Yeah. That's beautiful. That's really good. So you are the listener, the best in the beers, the garden gnome's beard. And we research a topic. We tell the others about it. We tell you about it.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And we usually get onto the topic with a question. That's right. You were just writing a question mere moments ago. That's right. So this story takes place in an American city. It certainly begins there. Okay. So my question is, what city is Mark Cohn's first ever single, award-winning song?
Starting point is 00:04:21 He's basically his big hit. Started strong. What city is his song about? And if you don't know, I'll start saying the lyrics until you know it. Okay. Do you know who Mark Cohn is? I don't. Do you reckon we should know?
Starting point is 00:04:35 Well, you'd know this song, I think. Put on my blue suede shoes and I boarded the plane. Touched down in the land of the Delta Blues in the middle of the pouring rain. WC. Handy. Won't you look down over me? Yeah, I've got a first class ticket, but I'm as blue as a boy can be. Then I'm walking in Memphis. Correct.
Starting point is 00:04:57 So you have heard that song or you just, you just vibed it. Is that I'm walking in Memphis? Why is that class name? Mark C-O-H-N. But then the classic bit is where he goes. verse three and they asked me if I would do a little number
Starting point is 00:05:15 and I sang with all my might she said tell me are you a Christian child and I said did that peak because I'll do it again I think your life just peaked we've pinpointed
Starting point is 00:05:31 the best thing you've ever done and we've got her on video and audio I don't know why I did that Like, that's so lucky, usually I don't know why I did that I can't sing That's so funny
Starting point is 00:05:49 I don't know why You really went out of you waited You went to the third verse To show us that bit I mean, it is a great bit of the song But I have no business doing it I'm so sorry I'm not even sure I know that bit of the song
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah well it doesn't sound anything like that That's like an award-winning singer I don't have no idea Did you blow I've lost my mind. That's like he like slapped a stranger and then said, I'm sorry, didn't I do that? That's exactly how it felt. Intrusive thought one.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I was. I thought I could sing for a second there. I'm glad I wasn't standing on a bridge at the time. Do you ever have that thought when like kids are running by you all? Do you ever think about just clothes lighting them? Oh yeah. I've never done it. No.
Starting point is 00:06:32 But the thoughts always there of just, whoop or stick a foot out? My one as a kid was, I could just open the door on this freeway and roll out of the back seat. And I have to think, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. You're seven. That's fine. I've got no business doing that.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I'm seven. What was I thinking? So hopefully AJ will. Because the worry is, people listen to my report episodes to go to bed. You know, like, you're working them up. They're like, geez. What are I listening to Dave's for? Well, for entertainment.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Mine? Yours are to wake up in the morning. Ah. Shrel. Yeah. No one's staying at. in bed with that tone. You're an alarm clock.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah, and it's like one you have to get out of bed to turn off. Oh, shut up, shut up, shut up. Oh, she's laughing again. It's disgusting. Oh, I'm already up. I guess I'm up and I'm depressed. Now I've got to go do something. Yeah, where the Goldilocks?
Starting point is 00:07:27 Dave's are just right. Now, I've got to ask, what's the topic? Walking in Memphis. The topic. Is it? It just starts in Memphis. Stevie Cohn. Mark Cone.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Mark Cone. What an unforgettable name. Sorry, what a forgettable name? Maybe it's Cohen. Cohen? Maybe it's Cohen, but just they took out the air at some point. See, you also sing about Beale Street, that guy? Yeah, that's the same song.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Walking 10 feet off a Beale. Right, do we know what that means? It's Beal Street. Do we know what that means? That's, it's like a main strip in Memphis. Mark Cohen. What a forgettable name. Well, you remember the song.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Did you know the song? Yeah, yeah. So the topic is FedEx Flight 705. Oh. It's pretty full-on, I'll say that. Great. Thank you. No, thank you for the warning on that.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yes. Because there was the time I did the Tenerife Air Disaster, one of the worst air disasters on record and didn't. No, I think early on I was like, this is grim. Yeah, and we kept thinking, I think I've got optimism bias a bit. Yeah. I did not. I knew where it was going.
Starting point is 00:08:39 But I just am like that. I'm just an insensitive bloke, I guess. But also this podcast is, you know, at the heart, it's a comedy podcast. And I would love you too to still find funniness around the topic. Yeah. Because, like, I'm sure, and you're so good at it. Thank you. So good at it.
Starting point is 00:08:59 In a shrill way. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, she goes again. By which I mean. There she goes again. So shrill. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:10 So this was suggested by three people. Jamie Lidlo Elif, Urquakli from Istanbul, and Tim Vandenride from Ramsdong in Belgium. See, there you go, straight off the bat. That's humour. We can have fun with that. Ramsdonk? Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:09:29 That's amazing. Tim has suggested a few topics I think in the last 12 months. No, but we laugh at it every time. Oh, of course. And we will continue to laugh at it every time. amazing. Well, interestingly, Ramsdonk affected me much like Mark Cohen did Dave, because I don't have no recollection of Ramsdon.
Starting point is 00:09:46 What an unforgettable city now. So Jamie wrote, Jamie actually DM me about this topic saying, I shit you not. It's the most unreal thing I've ever researched. And I asked, oh, what did you research it for? And she said, oh, I used to want to be a pilot. I just went down a rabbit hole. I'm like, I love the phrasing of research. I'm like, oh, it's this a PhD or something.
Starting point is 00:10:11 It's like, I read the Wikipedia page. I also love that they used to want to be a pilot, and then this possibly ended that dream. This won the Patreon poll in an absolute landslide, and I put up four bangers, and everyone in the comment said so, but this took it out with like 50% of the votes. We do get a lot of comments saying,
Starting point is 00:10:31 can you just do them all? Yeah, yeah. All right, shall we begin? Please. Michelle. So let me take you back to the 17th of April 1994. Ah, yes. Just after 3pm in the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Okay. FedEx Flight 705, the aircraft being a MacDonald Douglas DC-10 jet aircraft. Ah, yep, a beauty. Shedule. What an absolute beauty. How many engines? Uh, it's actually a tri-jet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:59 How many is that? I believe Trey. Uh, yeah, I think three, actually. I can be, I can put it in English. I just realized. So the flight scheduled to depart, Memphis, Tennessee. We were just talking about that. My gosh, Beale Street?
Starting point is 00:11:15 So at the airport? Yeah, that's one of the runways, I think. Heading to San Jose, California. Great. Captain David Sanders, a 49-year-old ex-Navy pilot, was preparing for the flight. Absolute routine flight. His two crew members, 79-year-old flight engineer Andy Peterson, and 42-year-old first officer James Tucker.
Starting point is 00:11:37 These are our three key characters here. Tucker was an ex-Navy flight combat instructor who had more than 10 years experience with FedEx, and Captain Sanders had more than 20 years. So it's a very experienced crew. And yeah, like I say, for this highly experienced and qualified team, the flight is just another day of the office. All very routine. Oh, today's office. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:01 The sky. Oh, my God, beautiful. But sadly for the team, this flight would be there. They're last. Oh. They're retiring. Yeah, wow, they're pretty young to retire. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah, maybe they're about to get a really good payday. Uh-oh. Uh, they're not. When San- well... Have they to save really well? Yeah, that's true. When Sanders, Tucker and Peterson boarded the plane, they were taken by surprise to find another FedEx flight engineer named
Starting point is 00:12:28 Auburn Calloway on board already and seemingly initiating pre-flight procedures. Like, oh, that's weird. What's he doing here? It's going solo. Yeah. So yeah, I lied. There are four characters. Great.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And this character's name is Auburn. Auburn Calloway. I'm not getting good vibes here. Auburn? That's my hair colour. Yeah. What do you mean? We're not getting good vibes.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. Someone once said it's Auburn. Yeah. Is it? And is that spot like the color? Because I imagined OR B-I-A-N. No, no, A-U-B-B-U-R-A.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Still, just something, Jesse, are you feeling that? If this was like a cryptic crossword, Orban, it could be like Goldburn. and then there'd be another step to it there. I just want to be tired. In the cryptic thing, they usually include the answer, gold burn? Sometimes.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Oh my God, no, it would be gold. The burn would become something. Gold flame or something. Yeah, gold flame. It's good. And it would end up, it's like the clue was about an Olympic gold medalist or some shit. It's really a beautiful art form.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Kathy Freeman, gold burn. Yeah. According to the cockpit voice recorder database, which I'll quote from a little bit today, It was not unusual for FedEx employees to hitch rides on regular flights, a practice termed jump seating. It was a pronounced breach of protocol for such deadheaders to interfere with flight operations, though. So very normal for another employee to jump on the plane. Hitch a ride.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Yeah. You sit there. But he's there like doing pre-flight checks and stuff. Yeah, that's a bit strange. Yeah, no, that's weird. But as it turned out, the 42-year-old Calloway had actually been scheduled to work. this flight, but when he and his crew exceeded their max flying hours the day before, they were no longer able to take the shift.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Just on a technicality for safety, you've gone over your maximum hours. You can't take this shift anymore. Right. So instead, he's riding as a deadhead, which is like a term they use. I don't think I'd heard that phrase before. Deadhead? No, I'm not sure of the grateful debt. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Oh, okay. No, you do know what I'm talking about. No, apparently a deadhead is a crew member, like a pilot, flight attendant, whoever, who travels as a passenger on a flight to reposition themselves to an airport for an upcoming flight. Yeah, okay, yeah. He's going to work, he's got a job coming up from San Jose. So he's just going to hit your ride so he's in the right spot. Love it.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So, yeah, the cockpit voice recorder database. I'm going to just abbreviate that to CVRD. Great. I'm going to ask you every time what that is, though. and I will forget maybe we'll call it covered covered CvrD if that was on a number plate I would assume
Starting point is 00:15:09 it was covered not Cockpit voice and I'd be driving behind that car going What does it mean? What are it mean? I just like why get personalised plates if it's just really fucking confusing Did you guys see the photo I sent you
Starting point is 00:15:24 last year like last year after we'd recorded some of our dogo Dungeons and Dragons I saw a car, which number plate was, F-R-T-W-I-Z, which I assume fart-wizzed. I don't know what it actually is, but is that what? Surely. The fart-wiz. And if that isn't your intention when you got that number plate,
Starting point is 00:15:48 like, did you look at it at all? If you're really good at building forts, we're not going to think you're the fort-wis, okay? Send that around to some friends and just sort of see, make sure everybody's reading that the same as you. Yeah, without any context, what do you think this means? Fart Wizard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:02 What? I like forts. You know, I build the best pillow fort out there. Couldn't foot pillow in there. I'm the Fort Wizard. You're also very flatulent, though. Oh, my God. You don't want to fart inside of, filliport.
Starting point is 00:16:14 My Dutch one's called, my pillow fort's called the Dutch oven. It's in the Netherlands. Yeah. That's all. And I do a bit of cooking in there. What the hell? I'm a baker. Things have my.
Starting point is 00:16:28 more than one meaning? What the frick? God, I think this is like a fuse right now. I hope fart wizard is listening. Oh, I hope so too. I reckon you should have something on your dashboard, a little piece of paper that explains it.
Starting point is 00:16:38 So if you see it in a car park, you can walk around and go, oh, that's right there, man, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Fort Wizard. Fort Wizard. Fort Wizard, okay. Builds a great fort.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah. Okay, so Callaway is deadheading on this flight from Memphis to San Jose. The CVRD writes, Though the crew were slightly startled by seeing Calloway in there. Like that. Yeah. Probably, oh, hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Yeah, slightly startled. Yeah. We weren't expecting someone to be there. They're there. They go, oh, sorry. Sorry, mate. But probably not like a, ah! Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Holy shit, Ollie. They didn't pull a gun. Yeah. Yeah, nobody pulled a gun, right? No. Okay. And apparently Calloway, without saying anything, gave his seat up to Peterson, doing what his role is, the flight engineer.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Right. Peterson, he was in that sort of sport. spot as if he was going to work. And Peterson, they arrived and he goes, oh, sorry, obviously this is your spot, Peterson. Bit weird, but anyway. Sorry, force a habit. Yeah. With Calloway out of the way, Peterson and the team began to prepare for the flight.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Calloway out of the Callaway. Oh, my God. That had been a great line. Get the Callaway. Yeah. You said it better. Get out of the Callaway. Yeah, perfect.
Starting point is 00:17:50 You're in my Callaway. No, you said it better. But sometimes you've got a workshop. until you find out, no, your first thing sick was perfect. And I'd probably better if one of you got it claimed because it was far too shrill for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope that didn't make you feel, you know, any negative thoughts based. I've just, because I think it's important to be honest.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And, yeah, me and everyone else finds you shrill. Yes. Yeah. But that's, I mean, that's just you and women in general. Oh, yeah. As a feminist, I think it's not only right for me to say, I think it's important for me to say. Nobody else could. No.
Starting point is 00:18:33 It'd be inappropriate. Yeah. Yes. Welcome to our new listeners. So they're preparing for the flight. When Peterson notices that a circuit breaker was off that shouldn't be. Like it flicked off. And that circuit breaker being off meant the cockpit voice recorder wouldn't function.
Starting point is 00:18:54 It was on that circuit. So I was like, oh, that's weird. He flicked it back on. Kept going about the pre-flight stuff. But just before they were ready to take off again, he noticed it was once again in the off position. He started saying, oh, hang on. Do you think it's a bit of a strange thing that you can just turn it off so easily?
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah. Yeah, why would you need to turn it off? You're going to do like a big fart in the cockpit and you don't want that on record forever. Yeah, so radio stages will have a cough button. Cockpits have a fart. Part wizard button. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:27 But now I guess it's like anything has a power circuit, you know. It's to protect. I guess it's part of the... You're the fact that you can access it from within the cockpit. Like, why would you want to turn it off? Yeah. Maybe, I'm sure a pilot probably could answer that, but maybe because, like you're saying,
Starting point is 00:19:41 if anything faults in the cockpit, you want to be able to turn off. So you're saying... And you're also... They want to be aware that it's off, you know? Yes, yes. You say it's very clearly off, oh, that we're going to problem. Because that would be a problem.
Starting point is 00:19:52 He's starting to think, is it faulty? because this would have been bad news. Because, yeah, that would have meant, obviously, if there was an accident or anything, there'd be no record of it. And, yeah, there are specific rules in place saying, if that's not working, then you can't fly. Gotcha. Right?
Starting point is 00:20:10 So you've got to check that that's on. Yeah. Otherwise, you basically have to get maintenance crew in to fix it. Yeah. And these are probably problems why planes get stranded for a bit, little issues like this. Yeah. Sorry, everyone.
Starting point is 00:20:27 They never said sorry, everyone. No, I was trying to be more modern. I was about to say ladies and gentlemen. Is that what that would say? Yeah. Sorry, ladies and gentlemen and others, I guess. Yeah, it would have that kind of life, yes. And then under the roof, fucking nonsense.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Anyway, we just had a little issue with one of the breakers. Men's coming in now. we're going to fix it up. Probably 15, 20 minutes, I'm afraid. But we'll do our best to make up that time on the flight. I think it looks like we've got a nice tailwind. We'll ride that, make up most of that time and get you to San Jose. Not long after the scheduled time.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Why is so puffed? Well, he's puffed and also he's talking to a cargo plane. There's no passengers on this thing. There was like a few dogs or something underneath? It's just talking to like fadix packages, I guess. But that's the thing. You know, you treat them how you want to be treated. All cargo is important, whether it's packages or people.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Yes. I was disappointed that the pilot didn't tell me what the weather was like in the place. I'm going to be at in 22 hours. Yeah. Yeah, come on, man. Weather's currently, I don't give a shit. I don't care. Is it going to be the same in 24?
Starting point is 00:21:50 What's it going to be like tomorrow? Unlikely, yeah. Yeah. Especially if they are cutting into the movie. Yeah. Otherwise, like, I can drown out. Hey, we're just letting you know we're going to serve dinner soon. I could tell because I can smell it and they're walking up the aisle.
Starting point is 00:22:04 You don't have to interrupt mean girls. Yeah, they're tapping us on the shoulder. I want to know what Katie Heron's up to. It's October 3rd, etc. What's you up to? She's in math class. Thank you. So if this does turn out to be a faulty breaker, it's going to be a pain in the ass.
Starting point is 00:22:25 They're going to have to get maintenance on. And if, based on some of the packages may be needing to be refrigerator or whatever, I don't know, potentially if they're on the runway for so long, they'll have to get offloaded, put on another flight. It was just going to be a real... It's a logistical nightmare. Yeah. A knock on. And on top of this, if they were delayed long, it would probably mean they'd have to stay overnight in San Jose rather than making home to Memphis.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Memphis is like FedEx's home base. It's home airport. So that's, they're flying in and out of there. So I imagine that the pilots, the crew probably lived there, I suppose. So, you know, it would have been a real pain in the eye. So Peterson's like, all right, I'm resetting the breaker, and I'm going to keep my eye on it to see if it flicks off again. Yeah. If it did pop out, maintenance would be called.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Delays would just have to, you know, they'd just have to cop it. But this time it didn't flick off again. Yeah, great. Fantastic. The rest of the pre-flight processes were completed, and they were good to go, and the plane was cleared for takeoff, and that's what they did. They took to the skies. Takeoff went very smoothly, but less than half an hour into the flight, as they flew above 19,000 feet, Calloway, who was on board, you know, he's flying. He's just an extra. He's just an extra.
Starting point is 00:23:43 He's a deadhead. His only luggage, his guitar case. Uh, about half an hour into the flight, he reaches into the guitar case. Oh, God, they're thinking not Wonderworld, Jesus Christ. This is going to be hell. I've heard that guy at karaoke. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. And, uh, yeah, this is when the bloody carnage begins.
Starting point is 00:24:08 What song? Okay, so what's going on here? A bit odd, right? Yeah. Well, CVRD writes, flight engineer. What's that? It's gotcha covered.com. That's good.
Starting point is 00:24:22 As far as I remember. Corridorcover.com or the cockpit voice recorded database. Flight engineer Auburn Calloway knew his career was about to end. His employer, FedEx, Federal Express, had recently uncovered a series of irregularities and outright falsifications in both his original employment applications. and in hundreds of hours of flight records. He was ordered to appear at a disciplinary hearing
Starting point is 00:24:54 in the second week of April 1994, for the next week, and he understood that the likeliest outcome of such a hearing would be his termination. He's like, I'm busted. He was like, he falsified a lot of flight records. Is he a pilot at all? He lied on his CV.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I think he was a pilot, but this was going to mean he'd lose his flights of, certification. Yeah. Certification. I always say cert the first way. Yeah, he probably also would lose his certificate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Like, you know, his employee of the month. Yes. They'd have to take that back. Rescended. Yeah, they just put it cross through all these photos on the wall. That's shameful. His solution, I got you covered rights, was as simple as it was horrifying.
Starting point is 00:25:41 He would provide for his family financially and his own life, and in the process, he would punish FedEx in the worst way imaginable. So, remembering that this was in a pre-9-11 world, security checks for staff were very limited. Right. You're not getting scanned on the way in every day. No. So he just, he wandered in and you probably realize there was no guitar in the case. And rather than pulling out an axe. I was a violin and then there's plenty of room left over. Yeah, for his in, overnight clothes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Toiletry bag. Yeah. Toletry bag and spare jocks in case you have an accident. Yeah. Sounds like he did have an accident. Yeah. Yes. So, yeah, he didn't pull out his axe.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Instead, he extracted a hammer. Oh, my God. He was about to bludgeon the unsuspecting crew. I assumed gun. Me too. Wow. A hammer. Why do you need a whole guitar case for a hammer?
Starting point is 00:26:41 You could have a ukulele case. You could have a hammer in a backpack. Yeah. Well, the guitar case. contained two claw hammers, two sledge mallets, a knife and a spear gun. Oh my God. The CVRD writes, the weapons that Calloway chose for his attack seemed bizarre and indicative of a deranged mind, but when you understand the cold calculation of his plan,
Starting point is 00:27:03 the terrible logic becomes clear. Calloway could have easily smuggled a gun on board, but he wanted to inflict no injuries that were inconsistent with an air crash. Oh, this is a blunt force trauma stuff. Yes. So this was the crux of his... It's like very grim plan. And here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Obviously this man's not well mentally to make these decisions, right? But what the likely outcome of this hearing is he's going to lose his job. Okay. Yeah, yeah. There are other jobs. You don't have to go on a killing spree. No. Why is it always that?
Starting point is 00:27:39 Why is it always that? It's, um... Oh, I was going to... My job. Yeah. Okay, get another one. You fucked up. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah, but I guess maybe his family doesn't know either. He's lied all these things. It's a terrible embarrassment or whatever as well. Yeah, not to certainly not at all. No. Forgiven anything, but it is like on tiny scales, I know that idea of you go, oh shit. And it's like this sort of sunk cost fallacy almost where you're like, now that's happened, I may as well cover it with this.
Starting point is 00:28:13 But my ones are like, you know, I don't know. when I was a kid, I broke something of dads. And I'm like, oh, fuck. Yeah. I'm going to kill everyone on board. That's right. If I burn the house down there, I want to know. They'll never know.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah, if I burned down the house, that little broken fob watch. Yeah. Dad was a Dickensian. Well, yes. Well, we shifted through the rubble and only one thing survived. This broken fob watch. But actually, you couldn't have broken in the way. It was stored in the fireplace.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Ironically, one of the other places that survived. I think it was broken before the house was burnt down. You're right. It's like it spirals in it. Yeah, of course. And he's obviously not thinking correctly. No, no, no. This is, it's so crook and awful.
Starting point is 00:28:59 But the leap is insane, isn't it? Yes. Yep, it would be embarrassing that your family found out you lied. You lied. You lied and it snowballs. Yes. And that happens. And you don't think of...
Starting point is 00:29:09 This is such a leap. It's such a leap and he's like, well, I've provided for my family. But also, you are traumatizing your family. family and probably generations to come. Horrific stuff for your family to work through. And killing innocent. Of course, as well. But he's obviously thinking about his family being like, I'm doing it for them, but
Starting point is 00:29:23 you're also, it's awful for them. And let's not think about all the people expecting packages. Yeah, but they, we don't know. The real victims. We don't know that that doesn't land. Oh, true. Well, if his plan came together, I think it's fair to say. Well, I haven't heard the plan yet.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Okay. Well, this is the crux of his plan. Basically, evidence of his violent crimes would be lost amongst the devastation of a plane crash. Okay, that's bad news for the past. Rather than shooting them, which would have, if he did that. It would look like they'd been shot because they had been. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:55 This way, he's going to do it in a much more violent and awful way. Yep. So that it looks like they just died in a plane crash. The only one that doesn't make sense is the spear gun. Oh my God, this man was spear during the plane crash. Yes. Or is that like a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, last resort sort of thing maybe.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I guess so and it's still not a... Have a gun for the last resort. You're right. Spear is... I guess a speed, like, you could be... Impaled by something in a crash, but a bullet wound is probably very specific. And I guess that maybe didn't have access to a gun. Maybe he's a spear fisherman on the weekend.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Right, that could be true. Anyway, so too much... That was exactly right, Bob. Pete, like, in a crash, hammer wounds... Would look like... Would look like... Could be confused for injuries you'd suffer in a crash. Bullet wounds could not.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yeah. Then, and from there, he'd believed that he would seek revenge on FedEx by plowing the plane into the Memphis FedEx headquarters, killing himself, but also ensuring his family a lucrative payout from his life insurance, which he'd just purchased. Okay, hard to make that look as much like an accident if you have a target on the ground that is the headquarters, and it's not where you were going, right? Aren't you leaving? Yeah, they were leaving Memphis. Yeah, so it would be very confusing. So he's got to turn the plane around. Mm.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Okay. But he wants to really fuck over FedEx. So he has, it can't just be crash it somewhere. I will. He's got to crash it into the head, the, like the warehouse to really annoy them. Mm. And I'll say that that doesn't end up happening. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:32 But also like what's... And it's also, it's not clear if that, what that is what is believed to be his plan, but we don't know that for sure. But I also just want to say that he wants to punish FedEx for doing their due diligence and holding someone accountable for lying and potentially putting people in danger for a long time. Those sick fucks. Always sticking up for the big businesses, Papa. Yeah, I love big biz.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And if any big biz wants to get in touch and collaborate, I'm available. Oh, I should say I am as well. Oh, I'll do it for half. Half my third. Capitalism works. As it turns out, you've probably, I'm guessing you figured this out. When Calloway was found in the engineer station, he had just disabled a recording device. And I guess after Peterson flicked it back on, he did it again a second time when Peterson...
Starting point is 00:32:34 He went, Peterson, what's that? Yeah. He wasn't actually turn off the device. He was flicking the breaker that, yeah. Anyway, basically flicking off. So, yeah, obviously it wasn't due to a faulty breaker at all. It was all part of the plan. And the only reason we really know what happened from here,
Starting point is 00:32:52 or even up to this point, is because Peterson noticed and turned it back on. Oh, those might have been a full mystery. Exactly. Yeah. All right. So now for the grizzly attack warning, obviously, it's pretty gruesome.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Right. So he reached into his guitar case, pulls out a hammer, and none of the three crew members heard him entering the cockpit. According to another article breaking this down on AEN logistics, the first few swings landed on Peterson's head, so he was closest to the door. Peterson left out a low whimper and slouched in his seat. As Tucker turned around to see the source of the commotion,
Starting point is 00:33:36 he too got hit to the left side of his head with a blow that instantly incapacitated him before he could react. The CVRD continues. Sanders, the captain, the pilot, suddenly became aware of a struggle and heard the awful sound of a hammer blows raining down upon his crewmates. He turned to see both men slumped in their chairs, injured terribly, and a blood-soaked Orban Calloway moving towards him. Calloway swung wildly at Sanders.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Some of the blows landed, some were done. deflected. The plain lurch, the Sanders, desperately tried to defend himself. Full-on stuff. Yeah, awful. Absolutely awful. Incredibly, though, while they were wounded, Peterson and Tucker started to regain consciousness. Wow. Despite the blows, they were somehow still alive. And more than that, they started fighting back. Wow. They also had hammers. No, unfortunately, it was bare hands versus a man with a hammer. Yeah, and even without the hammer, actually, Calloway was quite a formidable. He was a big unit.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Right, okay. Six foot two. It's a black belt in martial arts. I couldn't find anything more specific than martial arts. All of them. Ex-Fedex captain named Mark Lombardo when he was asked about Calloway. He called him, quote, all muscle. So it was a big unit who could fight and he was the only one with a weapon.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Because it is pretty, like to take on three people at once in a confined space with just a small hand weapon is, that seems like a lot. Yes. He obviously had surprise. Yes, that's true. And, yeah, apart from the fact that he was a trained fighter and a big musly unit as well. But he obviously felt things weren't going his way and realized that the three victims weren't just going to go out. out without a fight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Despite pretty severe blows to their skulls. Fuck out. So he retreated from the cockpit. They're sitting there like, what the fuck? What just happened? Right. Can they lock the door now? Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:35:52 lock him out? I think they probably could have, I suppose, but they had. Adrenaline. Nearly no time before he was back, unfortunately. Yeah. They didn't even have time to radio for help, but they're also all, like, they just had their heads crushed. And didn't they start adding locked doors after 9-11?
Starting point is 00:36:12 Oh, maybe. Not a big thing? Yeah, that could be right. Or maybe they just changed the protocol as the only the captain or whatever opens it or some sort of thing. It just really kept people out. Because in 1998 I got to go in the cockpit. Oh, you remember when you kid, you get to be, yeah, get a little tour? No, I do.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Well, I didn't fly as a kid. Yeah. Afflo and East. Well, one of Dad's school friends was a Qantas pilot And so when we flew to the US And another one was an oil baron, I get it Yeah, Uncle John Great guy
Starting point is 00:36:41 Yeah, so what was it like? I'd barely remember, but it was pretty cool I remember a couple of times going up Like the steward would say, Do you want to come, you know, you're a cute little six-year-old Or whatever, seven-year-old, do you want to come look at the That's pretty fun And there's a heaps of like
Starting point is 00:36:55 Lots of buttons And there's buttons and switches that you're talking about An overwhelming amount Yeah And you're like, oh, cool. And they're just looking at me like, hey, little Johnny, and I'm like, oh, I'm David. Got on your little Johnny Scruff.
Starting point is 00:37:06 His little coloring pack. Yes, yep, yep. And they, yeah, because it was real, like, pro-planned propaganda back then. You'd say, like, they're little plain toys and stuff? Toys and, like, I remember I had like a, maybe like a watch that was like half a snow globe sort of size thing, and there was a little plain and a bubble on it. That's fun. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, yes, now they're a lot more strict on locking the doors, but you'd think it had a lock at something.
Starting point is 00:37:29 What if the captain needed to get chapsed? changed. A bit of privacy. Yeah. Why is it called a cockpit? I assume it's because they would sometimes have to change. I would assume. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I'm not going to look it up. No, I wouldn't look it up. I assume it's because they sometimes have to change. I don't want that in my search history. No, thank you. This airborne smut. Great magazine, though. I love airborne smush.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I'm a passionate subscriber. I'm a passionate subscriber. Me too. I get two copies, one to read, one to store. Never take it out of the plastic. I'm a collector. Honestly, I've got... I'm running out of room to store it all.
Starting point is 00:38:10 I want to read on to store. It's very funny. So he's back, sadly. He's back. So they basically no real chance to even figure out what's going on. Their heads are spinning, you know, ears are ringing. They're like, what the... What's going on?
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah. And it's also like somebody you work with and know and just... This is really unexpected. What is happening? So they didn't even radio back. So there's no word of this back at base or anything. And he returns now with the spear gun.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Oh, God. And because it's all on the recording. And you can, on that website I'm talking about, which will be linked, has the whole transcript if you are interested in that. But he comes back and he's yelling. sit down, sit down, this is a real gun and I'll kill you. But I've never used to spear gun. Is it one and you're done?
Starting point is 00:39:08 And then you have to, it's not like an automatic weapon, is it? Yeah. One spear goes out, then you have to reload it like a crossbow or something. Yeah. I was awful. Can we line up? Yeah. All right, please.
Starting point is 00:39:20 For lucky, it's not like. It's more of a threat and you're like, yeah. But yeah. Which one of us? Yeah. If you take the spear. If you antagonize a bit. You cop the spear.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And while he's trying to retrieve the spear out of your dead body, Yes. Oh. I'll bob him on the head. I'll bob him on the head. I'll bob up my captain's cap. Yes. I'll give him a little donk on the head.
Starting point is 00:39:40 With one of these little watches that I would have normally given to a kid. Yeah. Even though this is, we only really fly. Cargo, but you never know. You never know. Maybe there'll be a boy package one day. Pinocchio or something. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Maybe Pinocchio will be on here. You'll wish to be a real boy. I'll give him a little watch. I'll give him a little watch. I don't know. You take the spear That's the main thing I'm trying to say Yeah, we've already
Starting point is 00:40:04 We know what you're doing I'll improvise Yeah This is just possibilities You're going to be the one who takes the speed You're going to be the one May I say as well Some would say
Starting point is 00:40:14 Yeah Honestly, you'll be remembered No one remember me I'm just the watch guy Oh to be honest I wish I was the one taking the spear Oh hell I wish it could be me
Starting point is 00:40:23 But it can't It can't be Unfortunately It's got to be you It just does It just does I'm the captain So
Starting point is 00:40:34 Peterson Has it Almost about 10 wounds Wow From a hammer That's so awful Bleeding from his face From his head
Starting point is 00:40:44 And he's sort of Drifting to unconsciousness Couldn't Couldn't even see Calloway He's like visions blurring Ringing in his ears But apparently he could see The spear gun
Starting point is 00:40:56 And And it's like the spear's pointing right at his face, so inches away. And so he just uses all his might, lunges at him, grabs the spear and threw himself on top of Calloway. Wow. Then Captain Sanders jumps in. So the two of them are, even though they're... So injured. They're trying to focus all they can on holding Calloway down, who is at this point uninjured,
Starting point is 00:41:27 still a big musly six foot two martial arts black belt. Yeah. So, yeah. I feel like in a lot of ways, if somebody asked you about me, because you guys talk about how incredibly strong I am. Especially in the bottom half. Bottom half, very strong. And in here.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I'm pointing to my chest. I'm very strong in your heart, in your chest. Yes. But here's the thing, it's simply not true. Know what I mean? It maybe was at a certain time. I might have been. But I don't exercise anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You don't need to. I think once you get it, you got it. My thing, what I'm trying to get at is this other colleague who used to work with and was like, oh yeah, he's all muscle. Maybe things have changed. Maybe he's not so muscle or strong anymore. Maybe he's forgotten some of his martial arts. Oh, true.
Starting point is 00:42:16 That's what I'm getting at. Maybe you've drifted back to a yellow belt. Is that lower than black? Which is like, which I've done. Yellow's got to be low. Yellow's like the first. Yellow is like number two after white. It's basically, is it more.
Starting point is 00:42:27 more darker, more higher? What's below black? What's above back? I think it's below black. Isn't that brown? Oh, brown? It does maybe change. Depends on the martial art.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah. Right. Brown is above black? No. No. Black's the top one. Black's the top one. And then you get like double black,
Starting point is 00:42:44 triple black. Or am I thinking about Smernoff Fokka now? Thinking of Smirnoff premixed drinks that really fuck you up when you go to your friend Roddy's house in your 12 and then you can't drink those ever again. As an example.
Starting point is 00:42:56 As a hypothetical. It was a hypothetical. I mean, I assume everyone has a Roddy. Oh, yeah, I know my Roddy. Yeah. Yeah. And they know what they did. So, so Sanders and Peterson are trying to summon all they've got to hold down Callaway.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Literally life or death stuff. Yes, this is terrifying. But unfortunately, one of the three has to still try and fly the plane. So that's what Tucker is left to do. Wow. Tucker is struggling to control the plane, but he's also beaten up. Yeah. With a hammer.
Starting point is 00:43:26 With a hammer, yes. Back to CVRD. By now, Tucker's right arm, so he's trying to fly the plane, but his right arm was nearly useless as the blows to his skull had brought on a paralysis down the right side of his body. That would be terrifying, wouldn't it? Yeah. But he knew his two mates, Peterson and Captain Sanders needed some help. So he helped in the only way he could, and that was starting to fly the plane in a he
Starting point is 00:43:56 hectic manner. Oh, throw him around. No way. Oh, this is straight from an action movie. That's a movie, isn't it? That's amazing. You're looking about, I'm trying to lose him. Bar-ass.
Starting point is 00:44:07 That's incredible. And it's usually like the bad he would be doing that whilst Jason Statham's like trying to crawl back. Yes, and furniture's flying around this like, because it's a private jet. Yeah, and then like he gets thrown out and then he's able to grab onto some sort of rope and he's sort of climbing behind the thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And Tom Cruise did that himself. Yeah. What a guy. What a guy. I think he does Statham's stances. I've just thought of a movie that we should watch for Movie Club, and that episode might already even be out by the time this comes out. Tell me, please.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I don't have to say it now because then you're locked into doing it. Oh, yeah, true. But I reckon it's going to have a plane scene. It has a plane scene, and it has Jason Statham. Oh, my God. I probably won't have to watch it because I'll probably already have. I'm trying to think which one, Jason Plaintham? Jason Plaintham.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Fantastic. where he plays Johnny Plain. Hi, I'm Johnny Plain. I'm Johnny Plain. I'm Johnny Plain. My mother was from Britain and my father was a plane. That's why I got this accent. I did a bit of work back home in England.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And also my throat is also an engine. And my word are my arms tired. And he's like, I'm retired for special ops. Now I'm just a simple gardener. But I've got to take a plane back. to my mum's funeral. Oh no, terrorists. Okay, we just wrote a really good actually.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I think it's really good. Let's get slath them all along. And it's cool, Jason, plaintiff. Tucker, what a fucking baller move when he's so injured. So he's like doing it left-handed or whatever, one-arm only. Which for a lot of us is normal, thanks. So he pulls the steering. Did you mention right-arm at all?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yes. You did. Oh, great, okay. I was just thinking, was I quite rude to left-hand. I'd more men, one-armed. Yes. If I had to choose one to have, don't be my left. Everyone's shit arm.
Starting point is 00:46:01 The sinister arm. The weaker one. So he uses it. The weird one. He pulls the steering column straight back as hard as he can to his chest. Wow. Meaning the plane goes into a steep climb. It's a rocket ship going to space all of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:46:18 That's exactly what I was thinking about. I'd be throwing up. Peterson and Calloway still struggling for the spear gun. They lose their balance. and they're thrown back out of the cockpit as well as Sanders. So Calloway and the two non-Tucker crewmen are all still, they're fighting, but they're all over the place. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Then Tucker rolls the plane hard to the left, taking it into a barrel roll. What the fuck? This is according to CVRD. The barrel roll was nearly 400 miles per hour, something the aircraft had never been designed to do. Peterson and Sanders were shouting. and get him, get him to each other,
Starting point is 00:46:58 as the three struggling men were tossed about the galley area, alternatively weightless, and then pressed upon by three times their weight in G-forces. Fuck me. By now, the aircraft was inverted, flying upside down at 19,700 feet, and the alarmed air traffic controllers in Memphis were desperately calling the fly going,
Starting point is 00:47:20 what's going on? Are you guys, okay? Everyone's just checking in. Guys, the computer's saying you're upside down. Is that an malfunction? Is the computer wrong again or are you upside down? Is that an us problem? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Could just let us know? Just a bit worried. Just let us know. Shed is you upside down. In the movie, like an alarm would start going off for air traffic control and they'll go, they'd like flick it. Like, is there something wrong with that? Yes. And you go, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Blah, blah, blah. We've got a little reporter of a problem here. Yeah. Just double checking. Yeah. So obviously there. in no position to reply. Then at some point they'll see the plane go
Starting point is 00:48:00 or something like that'll be, they'll be like really frantically trying to call them now like. Hey, yamma. Still that tone. Hey guys. So I've just seen you. I'm pretty sure that's you because it is upside out. Just wanted to make sure everything's okay.
Starting point is 00:48:16 No worries. If not. Yeah. Got me like. Sorry to me about that. No pressure either way. Not to nag, but you are upside down. You do look a little busy, but I love to get a bit of an update.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Oh my God. Yeah, so they can't reply. Air traffic controller going, what the hell's going on? And in the cockpit, is he strapped in? Yeah, he's strapped in. Because everyone else is flying around and he's one arm going. But you still feel those G forces. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:42 He'd be feeling the G's. Oh, my God. And his plane that's not designed to do this is also, like, it's rattling. It's feeling all the forces. It's feeling all the forces. Cornynor AEN, the two men in the back continue to struggle. with Calloway, but Peterson's skull was fractured. His temporal artery severed, and he was losing a lot of blood.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Temporal artery. Sanders was in better shape than Peterson, but Calloway was uningered still, and he was starting to get on top. Shit. Tucker was still in the cockpit and in command, and he was like, I'm really put, going to now push it to the limit. This is like, it's life or death for them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:23 There's no, oh, this is a bit dangerous to fly like this is like, He's like, well, Stangas not to almost. And he started a series of aerobatic maneuvers to keep the attacker from gaining balance. He realized the trick was that he had to keep it unpredictable. He was sort of starting to barrel rolls and he was like, oh, but Calloway eventually will go,
Starting point is 00:49:41 I know it's like the G-Forces hit and then I'll have a moment of bang, bang, bang. Oh, my God. So he kept it unpredictable instead so that Calloway wouldn't be able to, you know, have a strategy to work his way through it. And not to insert myself in it, but honestly, I'm vomiting everywhere at this point. Yeah. That could help. I think that'd be slippery.
Starting point is 00:50:02 They'd be slippery for him. Some animals use that as a defence mechanism probably. Oh, thank you. That's a nice way of looking at it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just protecting myself. Yeah. This is for my safety.
Starting point is 00:50:17 And that of my chin and my progeny. That's why I've thrown up all over, Aiden, on this flight to San Francisco. This is for his protection. Yeah. Look at him. He'll slide right out of this plane. And he stinks! You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Yeah, so no bad he's a want to get him. He stinks too much. Stay away. I ruined two jumpers. That's hard to do. It is impressive. Ruined two jumpers, but saved one day. The.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Saved to the day. A.N. continues. One moment, the DC 10, which is the name of the craft, was on its side. The next, just shy of being upside down. Calloway freed himself just on. enough to reach for his hammer and hit the captain in the head again. Oh, no. As Tucker now placed the plane in a dive.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Wow. Heading, straight down earth. Unbeknownst to Tucker, the first blow, had fractured his skull. So he's flying a plane with a fractured skull. It's a proper big plane. I've just looked up at DC-10. It's like, yeah, it's not a small aircraft. It's like, it's what you think of when you're, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Oh, yeah, that's a big, uh... It's just, yeah, biomeufacturer. It's not one of the two manufacturers you always hear. This is McMillan, McDonald-Douglas. Okay. You were close. Vaguely close. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:28 For you, for half of it. For you, pretty good. So it takes in and all nose dive, but the pilot doing this has a fractured skull and parts of his skull are now embedded in his brain. Jesus. Now, I've done first aid. Okay, great. But I wouldn't pretend to be more qualified than that. But from my training, that's not good.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Really? Because I'm unqualified and I wasn't sure. Yeah, bits of your skull. Well, your skull ideally, from a medical standpoint, should stay where it is and intact. Oh, no. Sorry, I'm going to have to make a quick call. I've given some really bad advice. I've been storing my skull at home and I just need to make a quick call.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Dad, yeah, don't get that operation. I know it was going to look cool. Oh, that's awful. So, yeah, it's like, if he was in perfect health, what he's doing is incredible. Yes. But doing it with half your body incapacitated, your brain with pieces, shards of your own skull embedded in our hectic. And it's like taking its toll on him. As the plane's diving, he continued to lose feeling and control over the right side of his body.
Starting point is 00:52:51 You know, he can feel it, like, leaving him the control of it. Four. And he's, yeah, flying it with one arm. The alarms are blaring because, like, a lot of things aren't as they should be. So all sorts of, you know, the little red flashing lights, they're all going off. And that's over-stimulating then, you know? Yeah. It's like, I'm dealing with a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I don't need that. Yeah. In the movies you always see it, it's like, whoop, pull up, pull up. I'm trying. I need to concentrate. Yeah, thank you. Okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:53:22 It's like my washing machine three times in a row. We'll go, do-d-d-l-d-l-d-do-do. This is not the final countdown, okay? I'm going to wash again. I get it. But yeah, it tells you three times in a row. Like five minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:35 All right, I'll fucking get there. He's like, I can see the earth approaching. Yes, I'm aware. Thanks so much. I know we're meant to be flying across and we're flying down. Too low, too low. Pull up. Yes, okay.
Starting point is 00:53:47 No shit. There's a murderer back there. And then he looked to, his right side, the side that he doesn't have a working arm on, and realized that the throttle was still at full capacity. It had been the whole flight, full throttle, pedal to the metal, basically, but he can't reach with that arm on that side to pull it back. So they're, they're heading towards Earth faster than they need to be. Oh, my God. Yep. Okay. That's horrific.
Starting point is 00:54:23 So apart from the full throttle, gravity is also doing its thing. And the plane soon reaches the aircraft's maximum safe speed of 430 miles per hour. But that's not where they're stopping. They're still speeding up. Wow. Soon they were going 500 miles per hour. What's that in case? That is, so one mile is 1.6Ks.
Starting point is 00:54:48 So 500 would be. 800. 800 Kspinner per hour. And yeah, it went faster than that to the point that the instruments were no longer able to register or record how fast they. We don't even know how fast they got because it was faster than the plane could record. Wow. Oh, my God, they're going faster than the speed of light. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah. In theory. In theory. We don't know. We don't know. Could be even fast than that. There's no way to know. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Could be fast on the speed of touch. What's the fastest one? That was so fast. Well, in my experience with the ladies, it's really quick. I touch them real quick. I touch them really quick. And then they're gone. They leave.
Starting point is 00:55:31 They leave. Finding light where we can. Speed of light. Faster than the speed of touch. Fasten the speed of rejection. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's pretty quick. Another one gone.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Try again. Numbers game. That's what the guidebook told me. One day, Maddie. One day. One day. Numbers game. Running out of numbers
Starting point is 00:55:58 It's what my dad said When we were shopping for cars When I was 1819 And it's the same when you're shopping for women Yeah Numbers game Yeah What does he mean like price
Starting point is 00:56:08 Or how many look at Yeah he's just You know You look at them You test out a bunch Eventually you'll find the right thing I don't know if numbers game Is the correct sort of phrasing
Starting point is 00:56:18 But you know Whatever Just very ambiguous Yeah it's a number Dad's a salesman He says a lot of buzzwords Oh, that's a good thing for a thousand. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah, it's probably seen a few cars today, numbers game. Yeah. Sorry, what? Yep. Buy high, so low. That's good. Sorry what? Yeah, Wall Street.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Yeah. Bear, bull. Market. Yeah, I've seen them all. Oh, dollars and cents. Numbers game. Oh, you know, the NASDAQ will do what it does. Yeah, that NASDAQ will do it.
Starting point is 00:56:51 It always bounces back, man. Yeah. Oh, let's just get into the blue chip. Stocks, I guess. Can't go wrong there. B.HP. CRA. RSAV. RSA. B.M. Anyway, the DC-10. Oh, that's another one. Was now flying faster than any DC-10 had ever gone before. I mean, at least you'd be thinking, I'm going to get in the Guinness Book of Records. Pretty good. So there's that. Sure, parts of my skull are in my brain. But you don't know that.
Starting point is 00:57:27 This plane is shuddering. and feeling stresses that it is not designed to withstand. Yep, yep, yep, yep. This is unsustainable. A.E.N. writes, the airplane became unresponsive as it could no longer be pulled out of the dive. With the only hand that was still functioning, Tucker let go of the steering column and pulled the throttle back.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Didn't slow the plane much. The gravity was obviously still doing its job. Pull back the gravity. Oh, my God. Yeah, why didn't you just get the gravity? Well, I think that part of his brain, the bit that understs go from. Also, you've got one harm at a time. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Yeah, true. Yeah. Now do the throttle, then the gravity. That's what they teach you in the simulator. Yes, you did first aid and a simulator. Yes. Big day. Big day, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Luckily, the wind resistance did start slowing the plane. Just enough, at least, for him to regain control. With elevators and wings shuddering from excessive speed and barely able to hang on, he slowly pulled the plane out of the dive. In the meantime, the struggle in the galley continued. Oh, my gosh. Calloway managed to grab the hammer one more time and struck the captain once again.
Starting point is 00:58:42 That's the second one. He's copped back there in the second part of the fight. My God. With his flight engineer, Peterson, bleeding out from his severed artery and with repeated blows to his head, Sanders gathered the last, ounce of his strength, pulled the hammer from Calloway's hand and struck him until the attacker
Starting point is 00:59:03 stopped moving. As in like repeatedly. Yeah. Wow. He turned, he got the, he got the weapon and he turned it on on Calloway. And it looked like the crew was finally able to put Calloway down. And at last Tucker was able to take the radio headset and call Memphis and go, it was quite a hectic call apparently.
Starting point is 00:59:27 but he got across it there was some sort of attack needed an ambulance they needed an emergency landing and the AEN continues he's obviously incredibly disorientated as well yes so he's like he's being up's down spinning around his head's caved in yes he's like he can't feel the right side of his body I need directions back yeah we're coming back how do we get back the fact that he's been able to communicate anything at all is remarkable uh once the autopilot gyroscope was stable enough for autopilot to take over, semi-paralyzed Tucker went back to the galley to help Peterson and Sanders. And while Calloway started to wake up,
Starting point is 01:00:07 the stunned captain returned to the cockpit to fly the plane back to Memphis. Oh my gosh. So the Swit Tucker is now helping hold down Calloway. And Sanders is back to... Fuck out. None of them are suitable to fly a plane, are they? Well, you know, Calloway probably is. He'd be in the best position too
Starting point is 01:00:28 It's like this is a bit awkward mate Could you land this? Could you? This is a real spear gun Oh my God This story is incredible and harrowing Yeah And it's not over yet
Starting point is 01:00:41 No unfortunately Unfortunately not If this was an action movie It would be like so thrilling And then you go no this is real life And this is horrific Oh my God Back to the AEN
Starting point is 01:00:53 Tucker gripped the spear gun he picked up on his way to the galley and kept it pointed at Calloway. But the paralysis, remember he's only got one properly working arm. The paralysis made his grip slip and Calloway took that opportunity to attack again. No. The only thing the injured men could do was throw all their weight into their attacker to try and keep him pinned down. But Calloway was slipping and Peterson was in no shape to put up a fight. Hearing the struggle in the back.
Starting point is 01:01:26 So, yeah, I mean, the healthier of the two. Peterson's like seven out. He's in trouble. Whereas Tucker, he's got at least one pretty well working arm. But yeah, Sanders hears them struggling again. So he's like, shit, he turns autopilot back on and goes back out. So the three of them are now trying to subdue Callaway. And Tucker's able to get a hold of a hammer again.
Starting point is 01:01:55 hits Callaway one more time. According to the CVRD, they were cleared for any runway. They're like, all right, we're clearing the airport. Take your pick. Have a go. No one on the ground understood what had happened. All they knew was that an unnerved crew member had reported some sort of an attack and had requested an emergency landing.
Starting point is 01:02:17 But according to AEN, by the time the captain was back in his seat, the airplane was coming in too steep and too fast. Oh, come on. They've survived so far. And it's still loaded with fuel, obviously, because I haven't flown that far, certainly nowhere near as far as they were meant to fly. And it was too heavy to slow down in time. So he didn't want to take the chance that Calloway would wake up again because they were really,
Starting point is 01:02:42 whenever Calloway was awake, they really struggled to subdue him. You'd be tempted to have a couple of goes while he's down, wouldn't you? I guess, yeah. I mean, it's pretty grim stuff, isn't it? He keeps coming back. and you are all dying. Yeah. And it's all happening so fast.
Starting point is 01:03:02 You don't have time to be making these sorts of decisions. It would have to be like, because they are so experienced these guys. And before that work, you know, for the Navy. They've got a lot of experience with, you know, pretty stressful stuff and all that training. So some of it would just be instinct, I guess. And he had good instincts, Captain Sanders, because he, switched at the last second his approach, and with warning alarms blaring,
Starting point is 01:03:30 he executed a hair-raising approach to an alternative runway that had more room. And this turned out to be the right instinct. But Calloway started a struggle for a hammer for a third time, and this is when the airplane was less than 300 feet off the ground. The flaps were fully extended with the landing gear down, and Captain Sanders hit the runway hard and rolled to a stop with less than 900 feet of ground.
Starting point is 01:03:54 the runway left in front of him. So it was like a really close call in that regard as well. But the medics were able to get onto the plane and they had landed safely. Obviously the men were in an awful state, but they have landed. Far out. Peterson and Tucker are in critical condition and the medics were able to get onto the plane. I caught in a CVRD, a paramedic boarded the plane and found blood and gore everywhere he looked. Oh my God, what has been flying around?
Starting point is 01:04:26 Oh, my God, yeah. All the spins in the air while a man is bleeding out from another. It's just bloody everywhere. Dripping from the walls. Like a horror movie. Bits and pieces of all sorts of stuff. And the packages. And the packages.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Could probably be damaged a little. Oh, my God. You say lucky I was there because it'd also be violent. You'd be spewed too. Probably poo if I was there. Yeah. Not me, but definitely. Don't take your pants off.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Sorry, it's easier. Just for the listeners, I'd I did bite my tongue and not say a third bodily fluid. Have some respect, but I'm like, this is a harrowing thing these people have been through. It's not appropriate for you to be coming all over the place. Well, I would have. That's why. I didn't even say, it could have been any.
Starting point is 01:05:09 It could have been, could have been spit. Could have been. Was it going to be spit? No. No. Sanders and Peterson were laying on top of a still struggling Callaway, while Jim Tucker sat shaking at the co-pilot station. But they came in, Calloway was handcuffed and taken away.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Oh, my God. The threat's gone, thank goodness. I thought they were gone, as for sure. Yes. Because you did say their last ever flight, but maybe that's because their injuries were so horrific. Oh, my God. Sadly, yes.
Starting point is 01:05:46 But yeah, I guess we've sort of gone through this, but to reiterate what Calloway is. plan was. The investigation figured out pretty quickly, you know, they went and found evidence at his apartment. Cona E.N. He'd written out his plan. Yeah, he's like, and then? Step 10, put this plan in the fireplace, so no one discovers it. Yeah, never got there. Bring it on to the flight as well. So it'll be destroyed in the crash. Conan A.E.N., he would disconnect the cockpit flight recorder. This is the plan. budging his crew to their deaths using weapons that wouldn't stand out in the wreckage,
Starting point is 01:06:28 then he would crash the plane. Can I ask, was his original plan because he was going to be on that flight, to only have two guys to deal with? Exactly. I'll go back. Sorry, guys, just got to hit the head. They've got to go back there. It comes back.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Takes out two guys pretty quickly. That is exactly right. His original plan and a few of the articles made mention of his initial crew, one of them was going to be a woman as well. So not only one less person. That changes everything. Not only one less person to deal with, one of them was a woman. But he also...
Starting point is 01:07:01 We assume easier to kill. He also would have been in the position that would have been in control of turning off the flight recorder. So we wouldn't have had to have worried about anyone turning it back on. Yeah, no one's going to notice. Hey, so everything about it would have been easier for him to accomplish it. And maybe we would have just thought of it as this sad disaster without knowing what. what had really happened. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Yeah. But then he wasn't, he went over his hours and the crew was changed and stuff and he still went with the plan. He was like, well. Flock then I've committed to that. I guess because he had that disciplinary meeting coming up. So it's not like he can, I'll take a range. I'll do it next month.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Yeah, true. And he also, because I was like, oh, it's amazing. He still did it knowing that it was all being recorded. But apparently back then, in 94, it would take 30 minutes. He just had to fly around for 30. If he was able to kill them as planned, he would have just had to have flown for 30 minutes and that would have wiped the recorder.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Recourse on a loop. Yeah. And then crashed it and the recorder would have been wiped that way. So that's probably what he was thinking. But I don't think he's ever really explained it. So a lot of this is just theories. Wow. Yeah, so he was obviously arrested.
Starting point is 01:08:27 He was charged. The evidence found at his apartment. He tried to have that evidence suppressed for lack of probable cause, but that was unsuccessful. And he was convicted on a two-count indictment of air piracy and interference of flight operations. So he, yeah. You don't get an attemptive murder for that?
Starting point is 01:08:45 I know, that's wild. Times three? Yeah. He made it so much worse than if he'd just lost his job. It's the Yeah The Chasing your
Starting point is 01:08:57 No what do you call it Don't never chase your losses So the gambling thing Also like Your family's not going to be In the disciplinary hearing You just say you lost your job Because of
Starting point is 01:09:06 You know Budget cuts or whatever And then go get a job Doing something else Don't You don't have to try and kill people But just to check Did he also lose his job?
Starting point is 01:09:15 He did end up losing his job Oh okay That's good Because if you kept the job I would have said Well it's worth it I think he mainly I don't know if he would have lost it,
Starting point is 01:09:23 but the main thing was that he's in jail forever. I think that made it hard for him to deliver packages. The remote... Not flying the jail plane? Yeah. Do you remember that movie? That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:37 No, got life or somewhat... I saw two lives. You know, he got... He's in jail forever, no chance of parole, basically. He has had attempts to have his sentence reduced, but I believe they have failed. and he's still in there today. So, I mean, these articles, depending on when they were written,
Starting point is 01:09:56 there are like four different articles, and everyone had him in a different prison. So I'm guessing he's been moved around a bit. Right, okay. Like different states even. Yeah. I like that happens in the US, though, doesn't? You get arrested in one state and they're like, yeah, you go on Arizona.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Yeah, they got you now. Thanks, my family will never see me again. Is that right? Yeah, I don't know. I don't really understand why that would be, but I guess, yeah, I don't know. There's waiting lists for the good prisons, so. Put your name down early.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Yeah. That's why it's good to offend a young. That's right. So I guess let focus less on him, focus more on the heroes. Yeah. Where are they now? According to CVRD, while Sanders, Tucker and Peterson did survive, it was at a terrible cost. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Sanders suffered multiple lacerations to his head, had been stabbed in his right arm and had a dislikated jaw. his right ear had been almost completely severed. Oh my God. Jim Tucker's skull was severely fractured. The right-sided paralysis did end up passing. Wow. But he ended up experiencing ongoing motor function impairments to his right arm and leg and was also blinded in one eye.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Sheesh. Andy Peterson also suffered a skull fracture as well as a severe temporal artery, as mentioned. This is probably unsurprising. they were all awarded with gold medals for heroism, which is the highest recognition a civilian aviator can receive. Wow. And yeah, while they mostly recovered from their injuries, obviously there was ongoing scarring physically and mentally,
Starting point is 01:11:36 and they were never able to be recertified as medically fit for commercial flying. That's so awful. For people who was like, that's their profession and their life. Yes. I would like to think that FedEx has looked after them. You'd hope so, yeah. But yeah, considering I thought this was going to end with them all dead, I'm so relieved they survived, but yeah, their lives were ruined.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Yeah. That's awful. In 2005, Sanders said, the bond of pilots, what you do together in the airplane and outside of the airplane, I miss that. I miss it very much. Tucker said The only way for me to be able to fly Without someone with me
Starting point is 01:12:20 Is to be off the medication And at this point It's been ascertained That I will never be able to do that Finally in a happier note to end on He's since been able to return to recreational flight And also, as of just a few years ago The airplane is still flying
Starting point is 01:12:37 What? It survived Wow So yeah I care less about the plane No me too I'm happy that it's okay. I was searching for a positive.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's such a grim story, but it's such a, I mean, it's, you know, those stories where it's the, it's awful, but holy shit, how these three guys, it's like about as bad ass as you can get. Oh, it's, like, it's, it's, it's just that reminder of how horrific and how terrible humans can be and also how amazing humans can be, all in the one story. Just the, the final flight, the adrenaline, coursing through them that allowed them to like, they've had their heads bashed in and they're still fighting. That's incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Oh my God. Amazing. What a story. And he just kept coming back. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. All of them just operating, I guess, for different reasons.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Yeah. But just on the, it's, uh, this is a laugh or death. Absolutely. Now or never. Barrel rolls in a plane that size is incredible. One-armed barrel roll. Yeah. Backing it up. Four, wow. What a story. Thank you for that, man.
Starting point is 01:13:51 I love how on this show after 10 years we can still come across stories like that and be like, I've never heard of that. Yes. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah, suggested by Tim, Aleph and Jamie. Belgium, Istanbul and not sure. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the show where we thank some of our great Patreon supporters. If you want to be involved, you can go to patreon.com slash do go on pod.
Starting point is 01:14:13 There's a bunch of different things you can get involved if you sign up. Don't worry about the words I said there. Yeah, but you get the gist. The gist means patreon.com slash zygon pod. There's a bunch of different levels. You can get things like four bonus episodes a month. You also get to be in the Facebook group, the nicest corner of the internet. You have to vote on the topics.
Starting point is 01:14:35 You get to listen to the ad-free feed. You get to see videos. People are watching this video right now. I'm pointing at them. Imagine that. I could be pointing at you. Well, you don't have to imagine because you can just... Well, there you go. And get it.
Starting point is 01:14:50 But why... We're for sale. One of the things, if you're on the Sydney-Shaunberg level, specifically, or above, you get to be in the fact-quoted questions section of this show, which has a jingle, actually, goes something like this. Fact-quote or question... That's it. He always remembers the ding.
Starting point is 01:15:08 I sure he always remembers the sing. And beautifully done today, I think you both hit that perfectly. Thank you. Now, in this section, you get to give us a factor quote a question if you're on the Sydney-Sharmberg level or above. And really, it can be whatever you like. The first one comes from Michael Derrissy. And you also get to give yourself a title. And Michael's title is La Loba.
Starting point is 01:15:27 La La La La La La La La La La La. And Michael's offering a quote writing, lately my hyperfixation has been on the music of Shakira. Oh, yeah. So here is an excerpt from her song, Loba. A loba in el amario Which of course means to get out of A-oh Taya that's eat the nigh the neighborhood
Starting point is 01:15:51 Before to eat to-domir Dormir, aha Which of course means A-she-wolf in the closet wants to get out. A-oh! Let her eat the neighborhood Before you go to sleep.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Uh-uh. That is so good. That's really good. I think I know that song, but I want to know it better. I know what you'll be listening to on the way home. I thought. I think you said Barrio, but at first I thought you said Barrio. Barrio.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I thought he was talking about the toilet. Where's the toilet? No veil banio. What's Shakira talking about the toilet? Barrio, is that suburb or something? Neighborhood. Mark of Barrio. Thank you so much for bringing a bit of Shakira to our attention.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Shakira. I should say, I don't read these out until I read them out. So I didn't know that I was going to be speak singing in the language that that is in, maybe Spanish. But I think. Sisi? Nay, I'm confident I nailed it. I think so too. Nick Verosa coming in next, aka Mr Yankee Doodle movies.
Starting point is 01:16:57 And Miss Yankee Doodle has a question writing. Just mentioned on the El Dorado episode that Paddington 2 would be in her letterbox top four. So what would be the full top four movies of all time for each of you? Plus, what was your favorite movie from last year? And I always ask our question to ask us to question, answer themselves. And that's happened right here with Mr. Yankee Doodle movies. Okay, Nick Verdeo writing. For me, I just completed a ranking of nearly 700 movies I've seen
Starting point is 01:17:33 in my letterboxed top four, a Jurassic Park, Empire Strikes Back, The Godfather and the Dark Night. The best movie of 2024 would be either Transformers 1 or Nostoratu. I don't know how long ago you sent this message in. Oh, it is sent through maybe in February. Nick, I think, is one who sends in messages like a bunch of facts, quotes and questions. Oh, wow. We appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:17:59 But that is a big top four. Funnily enough, AJ who edits this show also edits the top four. for letterbox videos. Yeah, works at letterbox. And that's why I already know my top four, if I can remember them now. Last time I thought about it, it would always change. But last time I thought about it was with Nail and I, Nope, the second in the Planet of the Apes rebooted series.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Pund of the Aps 2. And I think Scream. Oh, interesting mix there. But back to the future is also maybe, I can't remember. I've never seen Scream. I don't like it? I think so. Great.
Starting point is 01:18:40 It's fun. It's funny. It's fun. It's sort of, you know, it's a, it's a horror movie, but it's a sort of a satire of a horror as well, I guess. JP. Mine, Nick, you are correct. Paddington 2. Four weddings and a funeral.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Spy. Oh, fun. I wish you watched the movie club. I watched it, but then I was sick and didn't get to do it. It's so fun. I loved it. And then I have about time. I'm in there as well, but I think that's one that could maybe others rotate in, I think.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Okay, that's sort of the... The Paddington 2 is number one. Wait, I said nope, I didn't mean nope. I meant get out. Get out, it's great. Oops, sorry about that. That's okay. Nope, you're incorrect.
Starting point is 01:19:20 We forgive you. I'm going to say my four, I think it's Terminator 2. The Rock. I can't believe it. Conair. And like it probably rotates between die hard and speed. Let's say speed. I love action movies.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Yeah. You sure do. Thanks so much, Nick, for that question. Great question. And, yeah, and also to Michael for your La Loba. Someone should post in the Patreon Facebook group, get a thread going. I love to hear other people's top four. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:55 That'd be fun. Now, the next thing we like to do is shout out to some other great Patreon supporters. Bob, you normally have a game based on the topic of the day. And I mean, you know, it was a bit of a, grim but gripping topic. But he had a guitar case that he was carrying weapons in it, but let's just go for like an unconventional vessel for carrying things. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:21 You know? If you were to smuggle or something, what would you put it in? Sure. You could be smuggler. You could just be going to the shops, but you could smuggle as well, I suppose. So yeah, you're not necessarily putting weapons in a guitar case. Yeah, it doesn't have to be weapons. It might be, but I'm just saying not all of these people are taking weapons.
Starting point is 01:20:35 You might be putting like bananas in a canvas bag. Yeah, for example. I mean, that's crazy. All right, how about this? I'll do the places and names. Dave does the object. You do the carrying vessel. Love it.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Okay. All right, first up, I'd love to thank from, oh my God, is this a real place? Glossop in Great Britain. I love it. Maybe in Derbyshire. Yeah. Kate Burns.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Kate Burns is smuggling a Swarovsky swan crystal. In a gift size. Oh, that's great. very big keep cup. Yeah, well, loves a coffee. It's a really big keep cup. Yeah. Why are you laughing at that?
Starting point is 01:21:13 I'm sorry. Coffee's ridiculous to me. On your, Kate. I'm so enamored with the name Glossop as a town. Glossop's incredible. From Strasbourg in Ohio. Got the country itself in the United States. Thank you so much to Charles Roth.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Charles Roth is smuggling a Superman cape actually worn by Christopher Reeve. Whoa. Inside a toiletry bag. Just wrap it up real top. You never suspect a thing. That's right. Thank you so much to Charles. From, oh my God, how good are all these place names?
Starting point is 01:21:48 It's from Loveland in CO, maybe Colorado in the United States. It's Petit Ninja. Petit Ninja is smuggling the full collection of So Fresh Best. of summer CDs. In a gravy boat. Oh. A really big gravy boat, I guess. I'd laugh at that, but it's not ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:22:15 I don't think gravy's ridiculous. I love it. Man, I love gravy. Next up from Address on Own can only show him from deep within the fortress of the bowls. Thank you so much to Chloe Pietagalla. Petra Gala. Petra Gala. Chloe is smuggling the world's smallest operatable chainsaw.
Starting point is 01:22:32 And that is being smuggled inside. a case for a cello. Oh. That's good. Something really small going, something really big. Yeah. It's rattling around in there.
Starting point is 01:22:42 It's funny, isn't it? That's really fun. Thank you, Matt. From Steinvick in Ovidjizzle in the Netherlands, I think. I reckon you probably nailed that. Thanks so much.
Starting point is 01:22:55 And you're going to nail this one too, I'm sure. To Suzanne Christvick. Loved it. How would you have said that? I think you got four marks for me. Thank you very much. Out of... Full marks.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Do you hear how stupid that sounds? Yeah, I hate when people do it back to me, so if you can stop. Oh, you don't like, I do it back to you all the time. I think it's so funny when you do it. Thank you. Just not when Jess does it. Sorry, Jess. Because I do it with love.
Starting point is 01:23:21 It's an homage. Yeah, she does it with parody. I do it with hate. Sinister. Suzanne is smuggling a giant bottle of apple cider vinegar. In a tissue. A big tissue. A very absorbent tissue.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Just crumpled up in her bag. Nobody would think anything of that, would they? And you're ringing it out at the end. Back into the model. Oh, next up from address unknown, can only assume. Once again, deep within the fortress of the malls. Thank you so much to Sophie Horn. Sophie Horn is smuggling an used disposable camera,
Starting point is 01:23:57 and they've used that camera to take photos of some secret documents. Oh, and they're smuggling it in an urn. Oh. Oh, sorry, just grandpa. No one's opening that up, are they? No way. It's disrespectful. Should we make out?
Starting point is 01:24:09 Yeah. From the South, we better get through the rest of this quickly now. From South Lonseston in Tasmania. Thank you so much to Caitlin. Caitlin is smuggling a broken fork, but it's made of solid gold. Inside a hat. Oh. On the head?
Starting point is 01:24:31 No. Just carrying a bowl of hat around. under the arm. Yeah. No one's going to search your hat. You're looking insane. Why did you search your hat? Do you hear yourself?
Starting point is 01:24:38 You're okay. For what, nits? I'm clean. I'm clean, all right? How dare you? Do we make it out? Yes. Can I get in on this?
Starting point is 01:24:46 No. You've got to start matching our freak. Damn it. From Cranbourne West right here in Melbourne, Victoria. Thank you so much to Kara. Kara is smuggling the thong that inspired the thong song. Whoa. Priceless thong.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Yeah. Priseless thong. inside a monocle case. Oh, you'd never look there. Never looked there for a thong. What that thong, the thong, thong, thong, thong. It's fine. And finally, from one of my favourite towns, Keith in South Australia.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Keith. Keith. Bethany in Keith, we think your town name is the best ever. Keith, I mean, Bethany in Keith, is smuggling the last tennis ball ever hit in Roger Federer's professional career. Whoa. Signed. It's in a vacuum bag. Signed by Bethany.
Starting point is 01:25:36 So people know it's hers. It's in a vacuum bag. It's in a vacuum bag. That's good stuff because that's worth a lot. You're worth more of Bethany and written an aim on it. Is it a see-through vacuum bag? No. One of those old paper ones.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Ground paper ones. Thank you so much to Bethany, Kara, Caitlin, Sophie, Suzanne, Chloe, Petit, Charles and Kate. And the next thing we need to do is welcome in some people in the Triptitch Club. We've got two inductees in the Triptitch Club. one inductee into the triple tripditch club, Dave, what am I talking about? You are talking about our dedicated clubhouse slash hall of fame for people who have been supporting the show on the shoutout level or above on Patreon for three consecutive years. We've already given them a nickname or something a couple of years back.
Starting point is 01:26:17 But now, to enshrine them forever, the name goes up on the board in gold writing, and then they run on into our Theatre of the Mind Clubhouse. Once you're in, you can never leave. But why would you want to? We've got everything in there. We've got a tattooist on site. We've got a small role. coaster. We've also got a large roller coaster. We've got food, we've got drink, we've got music,
Starting point is 01:26:36 and it is Jess's job to cater for the growing, it's a thousand plus people in there now, so you have to really think about how you're going to cater for them. Well, look, the last time we did a plane-based topic, I kind of went with that theme and I was like delivering food on the cart, like on a plane, but you might remember that I accidentally ordered a slutty costume. Yes. I honestly, I can't get that out of my. mind and not in a good way. I'm really sorry. So I wanted to make up for it. And obviously I thought like that, because I've still got the cart, the trolley thing. So I was like, it would be good to use that again. So I wanted to make up for it. So I ordered a different, um, a different air hostess
Starting point is 01:27:13 costume. This one more tasteful of it. It's actually sluggier. What? How? I know. Is that possible? It's, yeah, somehow it is. It's nearly, there's nearly no material on this thing at all. It's essentially, you're wearing a ribbon. It's a bra, but I've got a little collar on too. Oh my God. I know. I know. I'm really sorry. This is not appropriate. It's not. And I've, sorry, I have, I've messed up again.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Is there time to return it and get a new one? Um, I mean, I'm already in it. Well, you could just put it. Oh my God. Could you just, if you put maybe a coat on or something? Paddington-style duffel. I've just never seen an air hostess wearing a coat. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:27:50 That's impractical. And so I just don't, I'm really sorry, you guys. That's okay. I was trying to make up for it. Unfortunately, I've, I've gone too far the other way. Yeah. But I will be bringing everybody their drinks and. food but you know maybe just try to keep your eyes up here okay okay you point why are you pointing
Starting point is 01:28:05 at your titties i mean the mic the camera really should be on matt right now because it's the regret face of the century matt if you could just make some noise in your microphone and show us your face i will not now we got two inductees this week at a j'll tidy that up in the edit um no you won't i just want people to look me in the titties i don't think i'm asking to make you feel better if i told you that i booked a band yes yes yes Yes, please. You're never going to believe who said yes this week. What?
Starting point is 01:28:44 They're obviously out touring the hot festival circuit. You are, I, because you used to be in bands and it shows when you talk music. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know lingo that, you know, us normals have no idea about. Sorry, stuff like hot. I referred to you as scum. But I actually don't know much about this. This is the DJ and house world.
Starting point is 01:29:11 Something I've only dabbled in with a guest DJ spotting now and then, which is, of course, plugging in a Spotify playlist and then dancing like a fool. But I have, I've booked this week, you never going to believe it, Dutch DJ and record producing sensation. Put your hands up for Detroit, it's Fetty Legrand. Whoa. Can you believe it? I remember that song. Yeah, I love this city.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Yeah, well, I'll put my hands up. Thanks, Fetty. Yeah, so welcome to stage Fettie's on. tonight. And Jess, have we talked about your cocktail? You're doing a FedEx cocktail or anything like that? Yeah, like I'll bring it around to you on there. I can do it.
Starting point is 01:29:50 I do recall that now. Yeah, I understand why you've forgotten because you've tried to wipe it from your brain. Also, it's really hard to concentrate when you're wearing that outfit. That's exactly what I was saying. See, I can't hear what you're saying. I can't hear what you're saying. I know. Are you talking?
Starting point is 01:30:04 I'm so sorry. Episode what now? It's like you guys have never seen titties before. Me and I haven't. And this is not what I was picturing. They're hideous. What's going on? People like these?
Starting point is 01:30:22 This? Are you sure? This can't be right. Honestly, it's not worth the hype. How dare you? So we've got two inductees. They're very much worth the hype. Two inductees this work.
Starting point is 01:30:35 This work. This work. We can't speak right now. Now, I'm on the door. I'm going to hype them. I'm not going to hype them up. I'm going to read your name. If you hear your name, head on in.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Dave's on stage. He's going to hype you up from stage. He's the MC of the night. Obviously, stick around for Fetty LeGround afterwards. Dave's going to do a bit of weak word play to hype you up in brackets positive. I'm being positive. Now, Dave, are you ready to go? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Here we go. Let's hype them up. Two inductees this week from Baldivis in Western Australia. Perhaps that's how that's pronounced. It's B of B and E. That's be of best and elegant Yeah But you look elegant as hell
Starting point is 01:31:15 But you're also the best Of the best And from Hovin Broughton in Great Britain It's Lena Lena would want to be ya Yeah Teach us your ways Lena
Starting point is 01:31:25 Yeah I'm inspired by you Yes We want to be like you When did you get that outfit You look incredible Be ya That is a great rhyme Yeah
Starting point is 01:31:33 It's difficult Have you seen M&M do videos About hey words Don't have to rhyme To be able to make them rhyme You're on that level Oh, he's seen that video. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Orange, Gorge, store, henge. Have you said it or I think it's very funny. Stor-Hens. Well, he says real things, but that's basically like, orange. They say you can't rhyme orange, but you can. Orange, you've got a bend words. Orange, store-range, I mean, a gore, henge. Well, you've got to watch it for yourself, but it's that good and maybe even better.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Often you acting out of video is funny other than the video. Absolutely. I really did think that was going to come to me as I did it, but it did. It's almost like he has some sort of talent that cannot be denied. I assumed I had it. We have one last thing to do. And the last thing, welcome in Elena and B of B and E, and the last thing we have to do is welcome in someone into the TripTrip Titch Club.
Starting point is 01:32:32 This is rare. This is the 11th inductee, which means they, and this is based on a, suggestion by Martin, great patron, they are the, what was the word he used? The custodian of episode 11, which is the episode I did about the Back to the Future Trilogy, where we first heard about Sydney Shineberg. That's quite an honour then for this person. Now, Dave, how are we going to do this? I want to read out their place and name and then you give them a salute and just.
Starting point is 01:33:08 gives them a kiss. And I'll give them a little compliment as well. Yes. And then I'll give them a little certificate that says they are the custodian of episode 11. All right. And of course, they can watch the salute on the video because they've got access to the video.
Starting point is 01:33:20 That's true. All right. So I'm so excited to welcome into the triple triptage club, meaning they've been on the shoutout level or above for nine straight years. Absolutely amazing. From Arlington in maybe Virginia in the United States, VA. Welcome into the club. Alex,
Starting point is 01:33:38 Bache. Alex Bache, you are rarer than a unicorn. Salute. Alex. Alex. And Alex, I just saw it just in case Alex backy. Maybe it's possible as well. I'm so happy to have you in here.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Please enjoy this certificate. It's invisible, but you know what it says. Huge. Congratulations. Welcome to the club, make yourself home. Oh, that brings us the next episode. Just there anything we need to tell the people before we go? that we love them and if you want to suggest the topic
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