Do Go On - 6 - Mary Poppins
Episode Date: December 2, 2015A spoonful of sugar will most certainly help this podcast go down! Jess takes the lead again and presents a school report on the most successful Disney movie ever! This episode, we explore the creatio...n of Mary Poppins. From the wacky author of the books, the casting of Julie Andrews and the worst accent in movie history, we cover it all.Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you.
And we should also say this is 2026.
Jess, what year is it?
2026.
Thank God you're here.
Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenjai Amarna, 630 each night at the
Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun.
We'd love to see you there.
Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.
If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto
for shows.
That's going to be so much fun.
Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online.
And I'm here too.
You are listening to Do Go on a podcast where we talk about something we find interesting.
My name is Dave Warnacki, son of Amanda.
I am here with daughter of Anne, Jess Perkins.
Hello, Dave, son of Amanda.
Hello, Jess.
And we're also here with son of Diane Matthew Stewart.
Hey, what's up?
Diane and Amanda.
We were very interested before we started this episode to find that the word Anne is
in all of our mother's name.
So honestly, if you were worried about how
interesting this show could get,
worry no more.
Because we are going to do,
go on about something very, very interesting.
One of us will prepare...
Mum's names.
Well, we could do History of Names.
My God, that's a big topic.
No, when I did the Beatles, it was too much.
History of names.
Oh, wow.
Imagine that.
There's so many names.
My name comes from Shakespeare.
Do you know that?
I didn't know that.
The character, Jessica.
Jessica.
He made that up.
In this spelling,
Matt's just presenting his tummy.
Shakespearean character plays Jessica.
Merchant of Venice.
There's a character called Jessica,
and it was first used in that.
I was going to say Merchant of Whimsie.
That's a Clara Cupcake's show.
Merchant of Venice.
Merchant of Venice is the actual Shakespeare.
So that's where my name comes from.
There you go.
Podcast completed.
See that, everyone.
Have a great week.
I think like 90% of names,
My name means a gift from God.
Yes, it's your turn to prepare a report and talk to Matthew and I about it.
It is my turn.
You said that like, it is your turn.
I am slowly turning into a musical.
Excellent.
It is my turn.
We always start with a question.
Oh, yes, we do.
And here is my question.
What would you say is the most successful Disney movie?
Oh, oh.
Oh, are you talking box office?
In terms of success, I specifically do in terms of Academy Awards.
These are the ones that come to mind.
Lion King, Mary Poppins.
The first one is Snow White.
Oh, all those ones.
What about the first, I know a little fact here, this could be it,
the first film, the first cartoon to ever be nominated for the Best Picture Academy Award.
Oh, Toy Story 2?
No, this only happened twice.
It was, uh, before Toy Story 2.
Before Toy Story now is Beauty and the Beast?
Really?
That's not what I...
That's not the movie.
Matt did mention it though.
Oh, okay.
Lanking.
No, Mary Poppins.
Mary Poppins.
We're talking Mary Poppins today.
Oh my goodness.
Supercalor, Fragilistic, XBel, excellent episodes.
You got very excited to say.
Your little face lit up like a Christmas tree.
Oh my goodness.
No, I don't want to bring down the podcast, but I'm not a big fan of musical.
So I'm hoping that this episode will finally win me over.
Yeah, cool.
Well, it's just an interesting story behind Mary Poppins.
Really?
And is it genuinely the most successful Academy Award?
Yeah.
Yep.
At the Academy Awards for a Disney movie?
Yeah.
Oh, how excellent.
Yeah.
It was a big bloody year for them.
So it's pretty exciting.
Have you seen the movie Saving Mr. Banks?
Yes.
No.
No?
Because that goes into the story behind making the movie.
Uh-huh.
And so that's where we're going to begin, not with saving Mr. Banks,
but with the writer of the original story.
Oh, is that P. L. Travis?
Yes, very good.
You point for myself.
Pamela Linden.
Oh, so what it stands for.
Yeah.
When actually, she was born Helen Linden Gough.
Oh, knee Gough.
Knee goff.
Which sounds awesome.
Knee goff.
Hey, mate.
Oh, knee Gough, mate.
Oh, settle down there.
Just came in for a pint.
Ne gough.
Oh, knee gough.
Right, so her name was actually.
Helen, but her family called her
Lyndon anyway. Don't know why.
Now, she was born on the 9th of August,
1899,
in Mariburra in Queensland.
Wow. Did you know that
she's an Australian?
I think I'm being Australian,
but I didn't know she was Queenslander or that old.
Yeah. So when I saw
Saving Mr. Banks, I just said
Meribara, and that's where my mum is from,
but mum's from Meriburray in Victoria.
Ah, the Victorian.
So to be honest, I was quite disappointed
when I saw there's another Maribar, but that's okay.
Onwards and upwards.
So,
now, her mother Margaret, Margaret Agnes Goff, knee, Moorhead.
Oh, that's a cracker.
Yeah, we all need.
Me.
More.
All right.
Okay.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
All right, right, settled out.
So her mother, Margaret, was an Australian,
and she was the niece of Boyd-Dunlop Moorhead,
who was the Premier of Queen.
Queensland from 1888 to 1890.
So we can kind of assume...
The short stint?
Yeah, it's a short stint.
But we're kind of getting an idea that they were a relatively wealthy family.
Wealthy, pretty successful.
Bit of blue blood.
Now, her father was Travers Robert Goff.
So his first name is Travers.
Travis. Are we saying Travis or Travers?
Travers. Let's say Travers.
Oh, my goodness. I don't know.
Travers.
He was from South Wales.
London. He had Irish descent, but he was born in London.
And he was a chronic alcoholic.
Oh, so he's not as blue as the rest of their blood.
Yeah, but he was...
Well, I don't know if being a chronic alcoholic rules you out as being like a rich blue blood.
I think that is almost...
Maybe not blue blood.
That's quite acceptable, I think.
Oh, so maybe Johnny Walker blue blood is what we're talking about.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
You know what's doing very well.
Which is both an expensive alcohol and a type of alcohol, so...
Very good.
No, but he was a bank manager.
So they were doing fine for themselves.
All right, but he just secretly drank a lot?
But he drank a lot, which meant that because of his drinking,
he wasn't doing very well at work and was kind of demoted to just a bank teller.
Oh, boy.
Not good.
Right, so the family lived in this huge home with servants in Maribar.
So again, we're getting the idea that they are pretty, they're fine, they're well off.
They did.
That was, was it Colin Farrell in the movie?
Yeah.
Played that guy.
But in the, in the, that's in the saving Mr. Banks.
But in Mary Poppins, the dad was also a bank man.
Mm-hmm.
There are a few little ties.
So we'll get to that.
But yeah, no, good pick up.
So, yeah, they were, they were living in this, in this big home in Meribar with servants until she was about five.
And then when she was seven, her dad, Travis Goff, died at home of tuberculosis.
Oh, dear.
At the age of 43.
Right, so she's lost her dad at seven years old.
A few years later, her mum had pretty much given up.
Margaret's given up.
I shouldn't say that when I'm about to tell this story.
One night she said to Lyndon or Pamela, as she later became known.
But she was also, but actually born Helen.
Helen.
Helen.
Man, that is confusing.
It's so confusing.
So, okay, so she said to Lyndon.
Lyndon, okay, Lyndon knee, Helen, knee, soon to be Pamela.
Too many knees.
She says to her, hey, just look.
after your younger sisters, I'm just going to go drown myself in the creek.
Said that to like a...
Quite unquote.
Ten-year-old, pretty much.
And did she do it?
She was unsuccessful, thankfully.
But that kind of ruined Helen slash...
Lyndon slash Pamela's relationship with her mum.
Like, she didn't really trust her so much after that.
She's like, I don't really feel like you're much of a mother figure.
So she had this great aunt, Helen, Auntie Ellie, as she was called.
All these people, just stick to your name.
Oh, maybe because she's a Helen and the kids are hell.
That's why.
That's got to be why.
There's Auntie Helen and then this Helen.
But they actually call Auntie Helen Ellie.
Ellie and other Helen gets called Lyndon.
It's like if, yeah, if I can't be Helen, no one can.
Yeah, exactly.
She's just claiming it.
So Auntie Ellie, whose name is really Helen, she sort of, I think played by
Rachel Griffiths in
saving Mr. Banks.
I was going to say saving private ride.
Every time you say it,
I think you're about to say saving private right.
Yeah, okay, great.
It's not just me.
I'm going to do it at some point.
It's going to happen.
So she sort of was around the family as well.
So she sort of behind enemy lines and they have to
Yeah, exactly.
They have to try and get to her.
Sort of help her out.
Right.
So Auntie Ellie was around a lot and sort of became like a
mother figure.
But she was quite bossy,
but yeah, secretly kind.
Much like a character.
Pamela might go on to write.
Oh my goodness.
Ooh.
Right.
So Lyndon, whatever her name is.
Her name's Lyndon is still at this stage.
She began, she was quite a keen writer even from a young age.
So she was publishing her poems while she was still a teenager in newspapers and stuff like that.
She wrote for the bulletin and started to get a bit of a reputation as well as an actress.
Under the stage name Pamela Lyndon Travers.
Ah, so this is where all starts.
This is where the name came from.
It was a stage name.
And she toured Australia and New Zealand with a Shakespearean company.
She's pretty good for a teenager.
especially during the First World War
too this would be
Yeah exactly
And then she left for England in 1924
So when she was 25 years old
And that's when she just started to dedicate herself
To writing under the pen name PL Travers
So this is where it's all coming together
And the pen name thing is just so
Because lady writers weren't as acceptable or something
I'm not sure if by this
I think by this time it was kind of okay
Because she was
From what I've read
She was sort of hanging around with a lot of
quite famous poets and stuff like that, and they obviously knew who she was.
Maybe it was just because she was an actor?
Maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
They didn't, she thought that she would be respected less or something?
Yeah.
Yeah, possibly.
Look, I don't know.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Look, just speculating here.
There's a lot of speculation going on to the corner.
That's okay.
You're allowed to speculate about PL.
We're having a chat.
It's all good.
She's had many names.
Like, he's having a good time and then he got defensive of himself.
Like, no, I don't know.
Anyway, shut up.
I think it's fair enough to speculate.
She's had that many names.
There's got to be a reason.
Too many bloody names.
What do you reckon it is?
What do you think?
I think P.L. Travers just sounds awesome.
That is a cool sounding man.
Sounds like a proper writer.
She was a bit of a weird character too, so I've got some stories about her.
So she's living in London.
She's living with a friend Madge.
Great name.
Less good name.
Madge.
And while she's living with Madge in the winter of 1933, she began writing Mary Poppins,
which was released in 1934.
So she's, what, 35 when it comes out?
Yeah, coming to that age.
She, this is just a little fun fact that I found.
So she really admired the work of J.M. Barry,
famously known for writing Peter Pan.
Peter Pan.
And her first publisher was a guy called Peter Llewellyn Davies,
one of the five Llewellyn Davies boys who were the inspiration for Peter Pan.
Oh, wow.
So it all kind of ties together.
So, like, he was one of five boys and who lost their parents.
and J.M. Barry sort of became like a little father figure to them
and helped raise them and stuff like that.
And then one of them's a publisher for her book.
That's kind of cool.
That's really cool.
Just a weird little tie.
So yeah, people have sort of said that the Banks family in Mary Poppins is like a reformed version of the goff, so of her family.
Kind of like, they're saying of the banks that the charming features are magnified and their failures are kind of like hidden.
Because they're not a great family when you watch it, especially as an adult.
So the father's a banker, although not a drunk in the movie, probably because it's a kid's movie.
The mother is a bit all over the place, although not suicidal in the film, again, children's movie.
Yeah, maybe that's right.
And Mary Poppins, like her Aunt Ellie, is, I love the way they've worded this, is the Great Deflator,
the enemy of any attempt at whimsy or sentiment.
The Great Deflator.
Wow, what a title.
I might add that to my short list of like solo show titles.
So, Gilles Perkins, the Great Deflator.
So wait, they're saying Mary Poppins as the Great Deflator.
Yeah, because she's pretty...
She is a bit, but she also takes them into a chalk drawing and rides around on fake horses and stuff.
And dances with penguins?
Or is that more Dick Van Dyke?
That's a bit more Dick Van Dyke.
But Mary Poppins does have a bit of fun.
But in the book, she was a bit more stern.
She was kind of a bit hard on them.
And then obviously Disney made it pretty Disney.
Was the book a musical?
Yes.
It was a musical book.
Sing along as you read.
Make up your own tune.
You just push the button and it would play a little tune for you.
You know that classic 1930s trope?
Yeah.
Sing a long musical book.
You enjoyed that, didn't it?
Yeah, it's a good man.
Thank you.
All right.
So Walt Disney was introduced to the books by his daughters.
He had two daughters and he was like reading the stories and his younger,
I think youngest daughter or eldest daughter, or Dianne.
Really loved it.
And so he first attempted to purchase the film rights as early as 1938, so four years after the book had come out.
And she was just like, yeah, nah, you're not, you're not making a film.
It won't do justice to my work.
She was a bit of a hard-ass.
Isn't that crazy?
Because he was, like, Disney was already huge, right?
Pretty big, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it would be most people like, oh, yeah, that'd be amazing.
It would be incredible.
But she was like, no, you won't do my work justice.
And it's, I love how he fought for it.
It's like...
For a long time.
It feels like if I was him to be like, yeah, fair enough.
I'll get someone to write another nanny book.
Yeah.
And we'll go with that instead.
He really wanted it.
He totally changed it anyway.
Yeah.
We're making a movie called...
Blairie Blopens.
Yeah.
It is pretty much exactly what they did on that Simpsons episode with Sherry Bobpins.
Oh, yeah.
Exactly.
They could have just done that.
But no, he really kept fighting for it.
And so, like, Disney was known at the time primarily as a preemptive.
producer of cartoons.
Yeah, so I think that might have been part of it, right?
Yeah, so he hadn't done a live action, any live action work.
He hadn't done any at all.
He was pretty keen to because I think they'd had like an animated strike.
And so he was pretty keen to see like what other options they had going forward.
How about real people?
Why I never.
So it took about 15 years for him to get the rights.
He kept going.
That's awesome.
Look, I feel guilty about saying that he should have just ripped it off.
No, I don't.
I think he did the right thing.
Just so, Dave, I don't want to make you think that I would just...
But you would rip off.
If you wouldn't sell me your rights to say an episode of Fact-E-Factor, one of your things,
that I would just rip it off and make a show called Fuctty-Fucked or whatever.
I wouldn't do it.
I would.
Yep, that's right.
I knew where I stood with both of you, so thank you.
That's right.
I knew that I could not trust the daughter of Anne.
but the son of Diane on the other hand
trustworthy man
He's a loyal fellow
He certainly is
He looks so proud now too
Look at him
Aw little cutie pants
So she is what in her 50s
By the time she says yes to it
She wanting the money
Is that what's going
And has she written other stuff
Because I don't know her other
Yeah the Mary Popin series
There's about seven books in it
Right
It's quite a series
And she'd written a lot of poetry
And stuff like that
But this was probably her most popular
But did you get the feeling that she was well doing her right, selling enough of the books?
Or was it eventually that Disney coin?
She thought, yeah, I want to retire.
Yeah.
I'll take a million dollars.
I think the Disney coin certainly helped because...
It always helps the Disney coin.
Because that's the thing, like the agreement that they made was stand alone as well.
So it was 1961 by the time that he finally succeeded in getting it.
But she demanded that she got script approval rights, which was unheard of.
And she got a cut of the gross makings.
Right.
Dem sweet dollars.
She got that.
So that was unheard of, especially script approval.
Like normally it would just be like, I'm buying the rights to your story.
Cool.
See you later.
But she got script approval, which is very cool.
And so she was an advisor to the production.
So I don't know, I should stop like quoting, saving Mr. Banks.
But basically they like flew her over and she was there like approving things as they will come up with it.
especially a lot of the music that the Sherman brothers were doing.
I've got some info on the Sherman Brothers later.
But yeah, she wasn't too impressed with a lot of the music.
From memory, I don't think she was too happy with Supercalifragilistic Exvelydosius.
She's like, well, it's nonsense.
And is that in the book at all?
I doubt it.
It's like on the page, just without a song rhyming it, it would be quite hard to read,
especially in a children's book.
What's that word?
Don't worry about that.
It's not real.
It is not real.
She also hated the use of any animation.
So she was pretty unhappy about the music.
She didn't want any animation in there.
And she, because of all the things that she was unhappy with,
she ruled out any further adaptations of the later Mary Poppins novel.
So it's like one of seven books.
She was like, you're not doing anything else with any other Mary Poppins.
Just know.
You fucked it.
You fucked it.
Also, I've got enough money now to keep going.
Yeah, exactly. She's like, I'm fine.
She also, she,
Disney kept overruling her, so she was like,
yeah, no, I don't want any animation.
And he was like, well, your contract says that I get the final say.
I'm Disney, I'm pretty famous for this kind of stuff.
But, like, he really pushed,
he fought so hard to get the rights.
And then she just kept fighting him on everything.
It's like, it must have been very frustrating.
But at the same time, for her to see her work,
just get completely changed as well.
She sounds like a weird unit, by the line.
Yeah, but I was going to say, he said it's the most successful Academy Award.
Yeah.
At the Academy Awards for any Disney film ever.
It's a big hit.
We all still know it 50 years later.
Exactly.
So it was pretty successful.
I think he did pretty well with it.
Yeah, but it's like it's not her thing anymore.
Yeah.
I think she was just, from what else I've read about her, she's just a bit of a strange unit.
It just feels like it would have been better for her to just say no.
Yeah.
For her personally, yeah.
Not dollar-wise.
Because she was still anti it once it came out.
It was successful.
She's like, it doesn't matter, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, that's the thing.
So their relationship wasn't too amicable or too friendly.
And she wasn't even invited to the premiere.
Oh, really?
Yeah, until she, I think her words were embarrassed a Disney executive into extending one.
So she sort of said to somebody, yo, why aren't I invited?
Hey, this is Pia.
Yeah, they're like, oh, hey, PL, did you not get the invite?
I think we sent it.
Oh, sorry, we send that to your old address in Queensland.
Oh, no.
Wrong Marysboro.
Yeah, we sent to the Victorian one.
Whoopsie.
Right, so she goes to the premiere and at the after party,
she said, the first thing that has to go is the animated sequence.
And Disney apparently replied, Pamela, the ship has sailed and walked away.
Like, Pam, come on.
She was still trying to make edits after the premiere.
Yeah, and it's like, no, no, no, it's premiered.
Just a weird little fact about her.
So she never married.
She apparently had quite a long-term relationship with a married man.
They've also sort of...
Walt Disney?
No.
She was living with a woman for a long time, and a lot of people are like, ooh, but, you know, it's all speculation.
But at the age of...
Living with a woman, you say.
Sourcy.
One of the points they made about her was that she wore trams.
whenever she wanted.
Oh, I've heard enough.
Oh, my goodness gracious.
My mind's been made up.
Good heavens.
I don't care about any of that.
It's made up.
That's right.
Long speculation.
Look, Jess, I don't want to be...
It's so funny that that would...
I don't think that would...
Anyone would give a shit about that anymore, really?
Hey on.
I just wanted to say that I...
I've noticed that underneath the table at the other end there, Jess, you're wearing
long pants.
I am.
I'm wearing jeans.
Wait.
Who's your housemate?
My mum.
Oh.
Anne!
Yeah.
Do you have anything more to say?
Are you writing any...
Your books?
Having any affairs with married men?
Any nanny related books?
Not that I'll be saying on a podcast.
Do you know Mr. Walt Disney?
Maybe I do.
Yeah?
No, I don't.
He's dead.
Long dead.
Is it a myth that he's frozen?
Yeah.
That's a myth.
That's got a myth.
I hope it's true.
I fully believed it.
People say that it's actually at Disneyland.
That's great.
Creepy.
Like underneath Splash Mountain.
Oh, no.
I want to go to Disneyland now.
Just to find him?
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll find him.
That feels like that could be a fun movie to make.
Finding.
Walt's head.
Walt's head.
It's a good title too.
Finding Walt Popsicle.
No, wait, okay.
There's got to be something better.
Finding.
Maybe it doesn't have to be finding.
Wait, what was, no, saving.
Saving.
Saving.
Saving.
Walt
ice knee.
Yeah,
there it is.
There it is.
Worth the weight.
Defrosting Walt.
Yeah.
I think that's actually pretty good.
Defrusting Walt.
Do you just put him in a big microwave?
I reckon there's someone in this.
Just leave him out on the bench.
Have you seen Austin Powers?
That is exactly what happens
at the start of Austin Powers.
Yeah.
They melt Walt Disney.
They unmelt Austin Powers.
Oh, they unmelt him?
You know, he's full.
frozen. He comes to thought in time.
They melt him. They melt him.
When you unmelt him, that means, I guess, they did freeze him first, I guess.
Yeah, sorry. But yeah, we could do that. We could just do that with Walt, and then Walt's like
a psychedelic. But he wouldn't be psychedelic, he'd be, what's pretty psychedelic?
He died in like the 60s.
Oh, it could be a little so. Anyway, look, I feel like we're getting.
When he was already an old old man.
To some really good stuff now.
We are, we are. So we're talking about, we're not talking about Waltho. We're talking about
P.L. So she's got a.
So she wears trousers.
And she's got a personal life that people speculate on.
Exactly.
But like a little unconventional, especially for that time, right?
So she didn't do the usual conventional things at the time.
She didn't get married and have some kids.
So at age 40, she decided she wanted to have a kid.
So she adopted a baby boy from Ireland.
Apparently, this is quite funny.
Apparently first she tried to adopt this like 17-year-old girl who was like,
go away.
She was like, what?
Yeah, right?
So then she's like, okay.
No, in the car. I'm rich. I'm rich. I bought you. I bought you, child.
If I can't have that 17-year-old girl, I'll go get a fresh one there.
If you're, like, if you do want to be a parent but not, you know, spend too much time on it,
a 17-year-old would be perfect.
One year. One year. One year.
And then just set them free.
Well, there you go.
I've done my internship.
I've shaped you into a young woman and you're free to go.
See, everyone? It's not that weird. I wear pants. I had a child. I had a child.
Exactly right?
Imagine a time where wearing pants was any sort of controversy.
No, but it was like whenever she wanted.
Like I think you could wear pants, but only if you were like, you know, gardening.
Yeah, that's right.
But she was like, I ain't gardening.
I'm just on the tram.
She wore pants on the tram.
Whenever.
Whenever she wanted.
Now I understand.
I can understand why she wasn't invited to the premiere.
Can you imagine wearing pants to a premiere of a film?
I know I wouldn't
But she's adopted a baby
A baby from Ireland
From Ireland
Who she named Camelis
Camillus
Travis Hone
She really is not having a lot of great luck with names
Where's the Hone from
Yeah okay
So he was the grandchild
Of Joseph Hone
Who was WB Yates's first biographer
Another weird tie-in
With another poet writer
So how was
Camillis related to this
Hon? He was a grandchild of Joseph
Hone who was raising his seven grandchildren with his wife
presumably something had happened to the parents. Wait, she plucked one of the seven.
Yeah, it gets worse. So she took one of the seven grandkids of Joseph
and Camelis, Camelis was unaware of his true parentage
or the existence of any siblings until the age of 17 when Anthony Hone, his twin brother.
Oh my God.
Turns up at their door in London.
Identical twin brother?
I don't know if identical, but definitely twins.
Oh, that would be four.
Turns up and he's like, I want to see my brother.
And old Pans, like, no, no, no, you've been drinking.
Get out of here.
How old is she, you know, 70s by this age?
Yeah, well.
Oh, no, she was 40.
So she's 57, 57.
When Camelis's brother Anthony turns up.
And she says, you've been drinking.
Yeah, apparently he had been drinking and he wanted to see his brother, and she refuses.
And then she and her son have a fight over that, and he wanders off to find his brother.
Found him in a pub on Kings Road.
Like brother, like brother.
Isn't that weird, though, that, like, you took one of the twins.
Yeah.
That's pretty messed up.
Take them both.
There were five.
Take all seven.
Don't separate twins, especially.
Siblings in particular.
Don't separate siblings.
I know, but there's seven, pick one of the other five.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
But twins in particular, don't.
It's a bit weird.
And now, like, everything's done differently now.
If that was the case, they'd be more likely to be aware of them the whole time.
Probably have a relationship with them.
Probably not do it at all.
But if it did happen, be like, yeah, just so you know, I've adopted you and your brother's still an island.
It's much more accepted.
Yeah.
Yeah, that is totally weird.
But back then, it'd be like, you can't tell them.
We have to pretend that you're my real kid.
Yeah, weird.
Very weird.
So she lived quite a strange life.
So Camelis, Camillis, whatever his name is.
At the time, I'm assuming he was just Camelis Travis.
Like the Hone, because otherwise you'd be wondering, your whole life.
Well, it says she's named him Travers Hone.
He keeps asking.
She's like, I just like the name.
Yeah, I just added it.
Don't ask questions.
It's so strange, isn't it?
You don't have six brothers and sisters.
What?
What?
I never asked him about.
Eat your dinner.
So strange.
So she lived quite a strange life.
And she lived until she was 96 years old.
Oh my.
So she died.
96 she died.
She died.
She was 96 and it was the year 96.
Wow.
She was alive in our lifetime.
Yeah.
I did not know that.
Yeah, she was.
Cut that walt.
She outlived you by ages.
Yeah, by a lot.
That's old for now.
She outlived him by 30 years.
That is old for now.
So she was...
Even her son passed away in 2011.
Like he's...
He gone.
That's awful.
Oh, wow.
So Camillus.
He gone.
He did.
Piss up, dicky.
Oh, my goodness.
See you later, Camelis.
Enough about her.
Stuff her.
She's no fun.
Let's talk more about the actual film, shall we?
Okay, so Mary Poppins.
What year did it come out?
It came out in 1964, and the date, I think, you will quite enjoy.
It came out on the 27th of August, the day in between our birthdays.
Oh, wow.
Wow. That is enjoyable.
Only.
For everyone here, apart from everyone else,
apart from you too.
And only 26 years before we were even born.
Which is fine.
But the other thing about her living in 96 is she saw,
she knew that it was like an enduring hit.
Oh, yeah.
It came out three times.
Like she was, yeah.
It got re-released.
Did she ever get turned around on it?
I don't think so.
That's amazing.
South Wales.
Letters that she'd written to Walt and stuff,
but they've kept some of it a little hush-hush,
like they've, so nobody can see those.
So who knows what she was.
They're not photos of her, like, in compromising pants.
It's like the one photo,
but one time she wore a dress,
and she's like, don't show anybody that ever.
It's in her last will and testament.
I was just like sending photos to Walt being like,
I will send these to the London Times,
a photo of me in Flares,
if you don't change the cartoons.
And everyone will know that that film was written by a crazy, crazy woman.
That pant lady.
I will ruin you, Walt.
I will ruin you.
Okay, that's the thing, though.
So the film came out in 64, right?
And Walt died in 66.
Right.
So he didn't even get to see how, like he, the movie opens to Universal Acclaim.
Like, it did really well.
But he didn't get to see, it came out another two times.
They like re-released it.
and it's gone to Broadway, and he never got to see how big it was.
Isn't that kind of sad?
That's a bit sad, yeah.
He also never got to see Finding Nemo.
So, which I never got into.
Makes you think.
Really, I liked Finding Nemo.
Makes you think that, doesn't it?
Okay, well, they're, yeah, to each their own.
I wanted to talk about the main cast of Mary Poppins.
Oh.
So there's a few fun little tidbits.
So Julia Andrews, of course, playing Mary Poppins.
Was this before or after sound of music?
Before.
And she was her first film role.
Did she win an Academy Award for it?
She certainly did.
Oh, my.
So first role straight to the top.
Yeah, and there's a fun little thing about it.
So she'd had a fairly successful stage career.
She played Eliza Doodle in My Fair Lady on Broadway.
However, when it came time to make My Fair Lady the film,
their studio head, Jack Warner, decided that Julie Andrews didn't have the star power.
She's like, you're not going to draw anybody in, right?
So they got Audrey Hepburn instead.
Well, fair enough.
She was massive.
Well, exactly right.
And as he said, this is a quote from him.
He said the decision was easy because he said,
in my business, I have to know who brings people and their money to a cinema box office.
Audrey Hepburn has never made a financial flop.
Which was true.
So is it?
Is it true that they used?
There wasn't her vocals though, was it?
It wasn't.
Was it Julianne or?
No, it wasn't.
But there's like a fun little thing.
Yeah, it was somebody else.
Yeah, it wasn't even Audrey Hepburn's,
I've got a fun fact about that later, which ties into Mary Poppins as well.
Oh, very good, very good.
So Julie Andrews, she's been thrown off as not a box office star, and her first role is a massive success, and she's won an Academy Award.
Yep, and so, and Walt Disney approached her to do Mary Poppins, and she was kind of like, I'm not so sure, because she was three months pregnant when he approached her, and he said, we'll wait for you.
Wow.
See, there's Walt.
He can see Star Power.
Yeah.
You Jack Warner.
He has worked 15 years.
Who's ever heard of Warner Brothers?
Yeah.
He has worked for 15 years just to get the rights to this story.
And then he waits even longer to get Julia Andrews to play Mary Poppins.
They waited like another year so she could have the kid, be ready to go.
It was probably like all the extra fucking about because of J.P.
Domeny or whatever name is.
No, that's not right.
That's the, PL.
South African cricketer.
Yeah, what's the name?
L.P.
L.P.
P. L. Travers.
Good.
We got there.
Oh, no.
What was I saying?
Yeah, yeah.
So, like, that extra year was probably just time spent, you know, going through her edits and stuff.
Because you said she had final say, right?
No, Disney had final say.
Oh, but what was it?
She had script approval.
Yeah.
So she had input and they, well, based on the knowledge I have from saving Mr. Banks,
they did their best to kind of accommodate her.
But that could be from their perspective.
and they're like, she was hard work.
We're delightful.
It could have been the other way.
But, yeah, so she had a lot of input with the script.
She sounds like a raving weirdo.
Well, look at those pants.
Oh, do we have to mention the pants?
She crazy.
Yeah, whoa.
There is something about that, like, the, whoever tells the story always comes across
a bit better, and she's just, she's won out.
And it's very easy to, like, alienate someone like that just to go, oh, yeah, we,
we wanted to make this great movie, and every, she kept stopping us.
But she might have just been like,
No, well, you promised that you would do it this way.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, she did adopt a child, a twin and call it Camelis.
Well, I'm starting to wonder, is this all Disney propaganda?
Maybe.
Did the child thing ever happen?
It takes a dramatic sip of his water here.
Did Camelis even die in 2011?
Who knows?
Oh, bombshell.
Bomb shell.
Is Walt Disney dead?
Is Travers dead?
Yeah, nah, she must be.
She's pretty old.
Yeah, she's really old.
So, Mary Poppins became the biggest box off drawer in Disney history.
Now, Andrews won the 1964 Academy Award for Best Actress and the Golden Globe for Best Actress.
Wow.
And it's funny because My Fair Lady was in competition for the Golden Globe.
Oh, dear.
And so that's where it was quite, I think it's become a little bit famous as a little bit of sweet revenge when Julie Andrews won the Golden Globe.
She closed her acceptance speech by saying, and finally,
my thanks to a man who made a wonderful movie and who made all this possible in the first place,
Mr Jack Warner.
So she thanked the guy who rejected her.
Oh my goodness.
And she, I've seen an interview with her and she, this is like recently, and she said she was so nervous.
Like she said it and then immediately regretted it because she was like, oh no.
Bridge burning.
Yeah, yeah, but he laughed.
Everybody just roared laughing and he laughed.
It was fine.
So it was a famous story.
Everyone knew that she was knocked back for that role all the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And her Oscar speech, I think people kind of know it as well because she said,
I know you Americans are famous for your hospitality, but this is really ridiculous.
She's so charming and lovely and wonderful.
What a charmer.
Just the best.
Now, I've got a question for you.
What was the next Disney movie that she appeared in?
Oh, the only other one I can think of a sound of music, but is that even Disney?
Not Disney.
Oh.
I don't think I know any of her other movies.
Is it a live action movie?
Yeah.
I've got no idea.
Another Disney movie.
The next one...
Oh, Alice in Wonderland?
No, it was the Princess Diaries in 2001.
Oh, my goodness.
36 years in between Disney movies.
Oh, my goodness.
She's the Queen of Genovia.
Yes, I have seen the Princess Diaries one and two.
Yeah, of course you have.
Really?
So that long.
That long.
Of course you have.
36 years in between Disney movies, yeah.
Which is, like, she was part of the biggest film they've done.
You think they'd be like, hey, do you want to come back and star in another one?
And Walt just adored her.
Yeah, and then 36 years later, they're like, oh, do you want to play somebody's grandma?
What other movies has she been in?
Lots.
Well, I don't know.
Do I know any of them?
Oh, sound of music and, well, she's done voice work for a few Disney movies and stuff now beyond that.
So like Shrek and stuff.
Because she doesn't sing anymore, does she?
No, she can.
Well, she can, but they botched a nodule surgery on her throne in 97.
That's a real shame.
She can't sing the same.
She can still sing.
Like her voice is amazing.
Like I can sing.
Well, no, no, no.
She can actually sing.
Just not in the same voice.
Not as high.
She doesn't have the same range.
She could do four octaves.
I don't think she can now.
Oh, bugger.
Yeah.
That's all.
What a jerk, whoever that surgeon was.
Yeah.
Let's find out.
Let's fuck him up.
Who?
Of a surgeon.
Yeah.
Well, that seems.
Okay.
Well, I think they have.
You took her nodules.
We're going to take you a couple of your fingers, Mr. Surgeon.
Fair is fair.
A nodule for a finger.
That common phrase.
Yep.
I'm with you.
I like where you're going.
I'm in.
So the other main actor in the film, Dick Van Dyke.
Oh, big fan.
Big fan, diagnosis murder.
Oh, so good.
From the 1990s, one of my favorite ever TV show.
With his son.
With his son, Barry.
Yeah, so good.
Yep.
Have you seen any of that this?
No, I have.
No, no, no.
It's just so funny that that's the first thing you say, because when I was researching this,
I was talking to, I'm going to do, like a little name drop.
It's not a name drop at all.
I was chatting to.
Dick Van Dyck's son.
and friend Lewis Dow.
Name drop.
And I said,
what do you know about Mary Poppins?
And he said,
oh, Dick Van Dyke,
diagnosis murder.
And then I was like,
okay,
well,
I've got to do some more research.
She goes,
I said diagnosis murder.
What more do you need?
And that's the first thing you say.
That's actually all you need.
I'm a very,
very big fan.
And with that,
that's the end of the podcast,
guys.
I hope you enjoy it.
No,
so,
okay, Dick Van Dyke.
He, um...
Dr Mark Sloan on Diagnosis Murder
for the fans out there.
He also,
he had a huge show with his own
Dick Van Dyck Show.
Yeah, he was quite big.
He was more well known for some TV stuff.
Not so much film.
He did a lot more film work after this.
So it was still kind of a big breakthrough for him as well.
Was there something about him?
Was he the first choice?
Or was there some nerves about him?
Because he's American doing a cockney accent.
Well, that's it.
And he's not doing it very well.
It was a really fun story about that.
He originally, Travers wanted only an English car.
And then Disney and one of the other guys who was sort of putting the whole thing together cast a blend of American and English to make it more accessible.
So I don't think it was controversial that he was American because they had a few Americans.
But yeah, his accent has been voted as one of the worst in film history.
I'm not surprised.
Yeah.
And it's given to actors as an example of how not to sound in a 2003 poll by Empire Magist.
magazine of the world's, the worst ever accents in film.
He came second.
Oh, who was first?
Sean Connery and the Untouchables.
Oh, okay, right, because he's trying to be...
It's like a Western movie and he's like a Scottish comedy.
Yeah, and he won an Academy Award for that performance despite his terrible accent.
Dick Van Dyck did?
No, Sean Connery did.
I think it's...
I think it's pretty great.
To me, it feels like if you can, if a movie can get by something so big as a botched accent
in one of the lead roles.
Yeah.
That says good things about the movie,
or just the willingness of the audience to forgive.
Probably willingness of the audience.
I always hate it when accents are terrible in movies.
But it's kind of, I mean, it's a cartoon,
it's like a live action cartoon film, really.
So it's kind of like everything can be a bit heightened and weird and it's okay.
He's a chimney sweep who's flying around.
Is that, am I remembering that right?
And he's, so, you know, his weird accents, not the,
oh, that's a bit far-fetched.
I don't believe that accent.
Yeah, he floats through the air at one point.
Fair enough.
No, according to Dick Van Dyke himself.
Oh, has he defended it?
Or is he?
Well, kind of.
I thought he was always just like, yeah, it was shit, but, you know.
Yeah, no, he knows it was bad because his accent coach was Irish.
So how's his accent coach going to help him?
What's he got to do with there, Dickie?
Yeah, exactly.
But he says that his accent coach wasn't any better than he was.
And nobody had told him that it was bad during the filming.
Like, nobody said anything.
Everyone's just like, don't tell Dick.
Yeah, exactly.
Don't mention that he's awful.
Mr. Van Dyck, another great job of the character.
Keep knowing it.
Is that not your natural voice?
Mr. Van Dyke, my goodness.
Oh, oh yes, lovely.
I love the idea that he takes it so seriously
that he stays in character for the six weeks of filming.
So he's like, is that like the deli ordering?
I'll have a Strasbourg sandwich.
Thank you.
All right, eh?
And they're just like, what is this person?
I thought that was Dick Van Dyke, but clearly not.
That's a weird voice.
That's a deranged man.
Yep.
So that's a little fun fact about Dick Van Dyke.
Do you have any other stuff about the cast?
Do I vaguely remember one of the kids had an early and sad end?
God damn, yes.
That's what I was getting to next.
Oh, sorry, Jess.
No, no, no.
I'm liking that you're remembering these things.
So the kids were Matthew Garber, who played Michael Banks,
and Karen Dottress, who played Jane.
This was the second of three Disney films that they started together.
All three.
Oh, chitty-chitty-bang-bang?
No.
Great.
I mean, it was right?
Dick Van Dykes in that, though, right?
Is it even a Disney movie there?
No.
No.
I don't know.
That was written, but chitty-chitty-bangs written by someone else famous, right?
You'd know that.
Is it Roald Dahl?
No.
I think it's, I think it might be the James Bond author.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, I think.
No.
No.
Okay, good.
I'm pretty sure it's very.
That's a weird thing.
I'm looking that up right now.
The Sherman Brothers did the music for Chitty Chitty Bang Bang as well.
Oh, okay.
That might be a tie.
And they worked a lot with, um, yep.
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Screenplay, Roll Dahl.
Thank you.
Well done.
Okay.
Well done.
It might be based on, um, loosely based on Ian Fleming's novel together.
There you go.
Oh my goodness.
Based on Ian Fleming's novel, Chitty Chitty,
bang bang, colon, the magical car.
Was, uh, his book a music?
cool.
Don't wink at me.
Oh my goodness, that was
great.
Wait, so yeah, what were the other movies
those kids?
Because I vaguely remember the boy
and someone else.
You mean all three children were in something
together?
There's only two kids.
Is it bad knobs and broom sticks?
No.
Is that a thing?
You won't know that.
It's a thing.
What kind of a movie is that?
What did you say?
Bad knobs and broom sticks.
That is not.
Is that a movie?
It's a bit.
Is it bed knobs?
Yeah, yeah.
That's such a...
I've never thought about that before.
That's a weird thing.
My dad used to use a phrase when he wanted to say something discreetly.
Somebody would be like, just between you mean the bedpost?
Okay.
Yeah, bed knobs and broomsticks, yes?
Bed knobs and brun sticks.
Okay.
No, the two films, the two other films they were in together were the three lives of Thomasina,
which is in 1963, so before Mary Poppins.
And their third was the Nomemobile in 1967.
Oh, my gosh.
Not as popular as Mary Poppins, right?
Now, Karen Adotris, who played Jane.
She did a little bit more acting as a child and teenager.
It's funny, in hindsight, she said she'd never have done Poppins or any of her other films
if she'd had to do it over again.
Wow.
So she wouldn't want to be an actress.
Yeah, I wouldn't have done it again.
Just from being like a child actor, I think was pretty rough on it.
It would be very hard.
It feels like more often than not that is a life ruiner.
It's not a good idea.
Big success, it just does not go well.
Yeah, it's, yeah.
Or there's a higher chance of it not going well anyway.
And there's so many that, you know, started really young that might be okay now,
but they certainly had a really rough patch in the middle.
Do you know what I mean?
Like they went through drugs or like.
Yeah, yeah, or some.
Lots of money and time.
Yeah, it's just.
Not good.
And no, like, there's nothing, big, big patches of doing nothing.
Yeah.
You've got a movie starting in six months.
But for now, you've just got millions of dollars and have fun.
Yeah, and no real life relationships at school.
Yeah, it's weird.
So it's interesting, though, that even with the success of Poppins, she says,
no, I wouldn't do that again.
Because she says that children should be learning and growing at their own pace
rather than living in a just and Bieber-esque-type world
surrounded by a bunch of yes people.
I think she's a little jaded.
I want to cop that Bieber as well.
So she did.
How did I get drawn into this?
Hang on, this is 40 years before I was born.
Yeah.
So she did a bit of acting as a teen but then retired.
A little bit.
She gave up her own career when she was asked as a teenager to appear topless on screen.
That was the point for her to be like, nah, I'm out.
Wait, as a teen?
As a teenager, yeah.
I mean, that's inappropriate, but surely you could just say no to that role
and then do other roles that you are interested in it.
I think, well, if you're going to...
Yeah, it's definitely Walt.
If you're going to quit at that point, she was probably already like...
mentally pretty checked out anyway, you know?
So she didn't do a lot of acting.
She went on to do other stuff.
And, like, I think she was still sort of involved in the arts, but not so much.
And then Matthew Garber, he didn't do a lot of acting after the Nomemobile,
which was the movie in 67.
But he contracted hepatitis while in India in 76,
and he died in June of 1977 from pancreatitis.
Oh, dear.
He's only 21.
That sucks.
That's a bit sad.
So on to the muse?
Music.
Let's bring things up with a bit of...
Bring things up.
So Sherwin, was it?
Sherman.
Sherman.
So I mentioned the Sherman Brothers before.
Richard and Robert Sherman.
They won two Academy Awards for Mary Poppins.
Subsequently, they have earned nine Academy Award nominations,
two Grammy Awards, four Grammy Award nominations,
and 23 Gold and Platinum Certified Albums.
23?
They are very busy and very talented dudes.
So I've got a list of the awards that they won.
So this is for Mary Poppins.
So Mary Poppins was nominated for 13 Academy Awards.
13.
And won five.
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Pretty good for a little Disney flick.
So these are the five that they won.
They won Best Actress in a Leading Role, Julie Andrews.
Best film editing.
Best effects, special visual effects.
Oh, yeah.
See that, PL?
Those cartoons were awesome.
Yeah, okay.
Award winning.
Yeah.
Best music original song.
So, okay, the song that won was Chim Chimmeree.
but they also won for Best Music, so original score.
So that's where the other songs were.
So Chim Chim Marie was the one that won.
It was like top-notch.
Some of your finest work there, lads, etc.
That's exactly how they presented the award to them.
Probably.
But they were also nominated for Best Director, Best Writing.
So that's Best Writing Screenplay Based on Material from Another Medium.
That's a very long title.
That's UPL.
That's UPL, but Bill Walsh and Don.
DeGriety won the Oscar because you're an idiot.
Best cinematography, best art direction,
best costume design, best sound,
best music, scoring of music, adaptation or treatment.
So it's just nominated for everything.
Like every single element of it,
the performance, the colour, everything was nominated.
But it missed out on the best picture.
It did not get best picture.
Fair enough.
Do you know who won that year?
Dave, can you look that up quickly?
Right now.
Yeah. 65.
Check out who won't in 1960.
The best picture that year was My Fair Lady.
Produced by Jack L. Warner.
Fuck.
So everyone's a winner.
So, yeah, so no wonder he was laughing because he knew he was about to be.
Nobody would be that mad about it.
Yeah.
Okay, I guess that's fair.
That was, and talking of bad accents, have you seen My Fair Lady?
I watched it a couple years ago.
Oh, wonderful.
How wonderful.
It's awful.
How wonderful.
Why you like?
That's probably something else, but it was basically that.
What are you like?
How?
It's not good.
They also won Golden Globe.
So Julie Andrew got the Golden Globe for that as well, as I mentioned before.
They were nominated for Best Motion Picture, Best Motion Picture Actor, Dick Van Dyke.
Oh, God.
Even with his horrendous accent.
And they were, again, nominated for Best Original Score.
They also won a Grammy Award.
So Best Original Score, written for a motion picture or television show,
and Best Recording for Children.
So that included the Sherman Brothers as well as Julie Andrews and Dick Van Dyke.
So Dick Van Dyke is a Grammy Award winning musician.
He's a good singer, right, Dick?
Can sing a bit.
Are they often he sings in nearly every Christmas episode of Diagnasus Murder?
Yeah, he can sing.
Yeah, I mean, he's no Julie Andrews.
Have yourself a little Christmas.
That is a direct quote.
Dave, down the track, you probably want to give it some space, but can you do Diagnosis
Murder One episode.
Oh, I'm such a big fan.
I've seen all...
Okay, I'll save this for that time.
Oh, okay, but you're always going to share a fun fact.
Should we finish with some fun facts?
I love to finish with some fun facts.
I like finishing fun facts as well.
Okay, so Dick Van Dyke also portrayed Mr. Dawes Senior in the film,
so the old director of the banks where Mr. Banks works.
Do you remember that scene at all?
So the kids go to the bank and they're...
intimidated by this scary old man.
Well, it's Dick Van Dyke playing that role as well.
I don't think I knew that.
The director was like, oh no, the old man that was going to play the director, I mean
the bank manager's sick.
Who can we get?
Oh, Dick's really good at accents.
Let's get him off.
Well, that's the thing.
They didn't want him to and he really, really wanted to do it.
He really wanted to do it.
Which is so funny because on Diagnosis Murder, there are not one, not two, but several
episodes where he plays multiple characters.
There's one where he plays himself.
He goes to like this old haunted mansion and there's these sort of.
four older people, which is clearly him
in prosthetics, like
nutty professor style.
Him playing people with both men
and women in like wheelchairs and like these
people that have like this
really old brothers and sisters fighting
that for this will money. Oh, and it's
really bad. He loves it. He
is mad for it. So he
like convinced Disney to let him do it
by like I think he did like a
screen test and he's like I'll do it.
I'll take a pay cut. I'll take less
money to do more jobs. In a way.
he promised to like make a donation to uh to something yeah he promised to make a donation so it was a charity
yeah it was very strange right but that was a that was a pretty successful scene right yeah it's a good
scene yeah it's fine and like he probably better than he's better in it yeah he is a bit better um so because
he's played the two characters though it's just a little a little bit fun during the films uh doing
the tie of the credits at the end um when it says like mr dawes played by it says navkid keed which is an
anagram of Dick Van Dyke.
And so those letters come up and then they
re-jumble and says Dick Van Dyke.
Oh, it does read jumble.
To see you go, oh, I didn't get it.
Oh, I didn't know.
Whoa, my mind is blown
because he was such a great actor.
Julie Andrews does, obviously,
she does her own singing,
but she also does the whistling harmony
for the Robin in Spoon Full of Sugar.
So there's like the bird that comes
and sits on her finger and whistle.
She did the whistling.
So she's a good whistler?
And I watched that last night.
It's very good.
She's a good whistler.
Top notch.
David Tomlinson, who played Mr. Banks.
He provides the voice of Mary's Talking Umbrella
and numerous other voiceover parts in the movie.
That guy's great.
I think he was my favourite in the movie.
Yeah, he's kind of cool.
I like it when he finally cracks.
He punches his hand for some reason through his hat.
You remember that?
What's that all about?
I don't know.
He's gone mad.
He's a grumpy old man.
Here's a little fun fact that I gave a bit of sizzle to before.
So there's three cockney geese.
in the jolly holiday sequence, right?
Cockney geese.
They're all voiced by Marnie Nixon.
Now, Marnie Nixon was an actress as well
and was a regular substitute on musicals
for actresses who didn't have very good voices.
She was the one who did the singing for Audrey Hepburn
in My Fair Lady.
So she did the geese in Mary Poppins.
Geese's.
And then she did Audrey's singing for My Fair Lady
and played one of Julie Andrews
fellow nuns in The Sound of Music.
It all ties together.
So she's the real hero of this story.
The real American hero, if you will.
The greatest.
Sorry, greatest.
According to Richard Sherman,
it took him and his brother
two weeks to come up with the word
supercalifragilistic expial atosus.
Oh, I would love to see that meeting.
Yeah, wouldn't that be great?
Like every day, just nutting it out.
Spitballing words.
And then how do you know once they got that,
they were like, nailed it?
Yeah.
Did you though?
Did you?
Supercalo, fragilistic, expedial,
it was the only film of Disney's
to get a best picture nomination
at the Oscars in his lifetime.
Oh, I saw it was nominated.
It was nominated for Best Picture, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but just didn't win, my fair lady did.
The next one was Beauty and the Beast in 91,
but he died in 66, so he never saw that.
Oh, he died in 60s,
he probably didn't even get to see the Saints
win a premiership either.
Was that?
The year.
It was the same.
Maybe he did.
Maybe.
It was almost not worth saying.
Almost?
It was not worth saying.
No, no.
Oh, okay.
This is some very recent news.
So September 14th of this year, it's been reported that...
Diane Stewart's birthday.
Oh.
Oh.
Happy birthday, Diane.
Shout out to the old Diane.
It's been reported that there's a new film in development with Disney that will take place 20 years after the first Mary Poppins movie.
Really?
I didn't know that.
So in the 80s.
No, that's when it came out, but it was set in like the 30s.
No, early, like 1910.
It's set really early.
So it'll be set in like the 30s.
It's set in the 80s and everyone's got terrible hair.
Yeah.
And that's going to basically be based on the remaining seven books in the Mary Poppins series.
Oh, so her estates.
So now Camelis has passed on.
Maybe his children have signed on.
All the red tape behind it, you know.
Jesus, Louise.
This is a great one.
There is a Mary Poppins Festival.
What?
Where would it be held, do you reckon?
Mary's Brough, Queensland.
Is it really?
Yeah.
Maribara in Queensland.
The birthplace of Pam.
Smart play by them, I reckon.
There's even a life-size Mary Poppin statue in the town.
Wow, a life-size.
Is it odd full?
1.5 metres tall.
Life-size.
Is that impressive?
Life-size.
What kind of stuff?
Every...
You're not going to have a 30-centimetre tall.
And is it of Julie Andrews?
No, it's of the likeness to like a, I think.
Like an illustration.
That is 1.5 metres.
Isn't that great?
Wow. What an imposing statue.
I'm only just taller than it.
Oh my God.
What if it came to life, it would destroy everyone.
She weighs 100 kilos too.
It's made of bronze.
The person saying I'm only just taller than it is a small child.
Yeah, it's pretty great.
Oh, it's definitely no Mongolian horse, that's for sure.
Yeah, oh, God, no.
A couple more.
The filmmakers didn't tell the kids about some of the surprises that were going to show up in the movie,
so they'd get genuine reactions from them.
So, like...
Oh, God, like what?
Like, you know that scene where Mary Poppins is taking everything out of her magic bag,
and she's pulling out, like, a hat stand and stuff like that?
Well, Jane, the girl, her face is like, what?
That's genuine.
She was like, what the hell's going on here?
Stop this voodoo.
And her little scream when Mary Poppins,
gives them medicine of different colors.
Do you remember that a lot?
She pulls the same bottle, two different spoons,
but they're two different colors
because they've got different flavored medicine.
And that's genuinely her going,
I hate medicine.
How did they do it?
I don't know.
The magic of film.
I wonder they were nominated for the Oscar for...
They weren't fucking around.
No way.
They meant business.
And Matthew Garber, so he played Michael Banks.
He was paid.
He was really scared of heights.
And there's a scene in a tea party where they're like floating above,
like they float up to the ceiling and have a tea party on the ceiling.
So they paid him 10 cents for every time they had to film that scene.
Like 10 cents extra.
He was still getting paid.
Oh, right, right.
But it was like a bribe.
Yeah, kind of like, okay, come on, buddy.
We'll give you 10 extra cents if you just do this a few more times.
Adorable.
And finally, the film grossed between $31 and $33 million during its initial run.
So they probably could have given him more than $0.10 a guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, bloody hell.
31 to 33 million.
In the 60s.
Ridiculous.
So the film was re-released theatrically in 1973 and earned another estimate 9 million in North America.
And it was released again in 1980 and earned another 14 million.
Achieved a total lifetime growth of over $102 million.
And with the profit, so like Disney made a lot of money from it, right?
So he used that money to purchase some land in central Florida and finally.
The construction of Walt Disney World.
So if anybody out there has been to Disney World, you can thank Mary Poppins for that.
So there was already Disneyland.
Disneyland was a thing, yeah.
Right.
What's the difference between the two?
Well, ones on the West Coast, one's on the East Coast.
So they're basically the same thing.
They're similar.
I don't remember the exact difference.
Well, there's different rides and themes.
No, I haven't been to Disney World.
I've been to Disneyland in Paris and Anaheim.
There's one in Paris.
Yeah.
Yes. There's several. There's quite in New Zealand.
Tokyo.
We've got one plan for Shanghai.
Yeah.
Really?
And that gentleman is Mary Poppins.
Oh, I feel like giving her a clap just, oh, PL.
PL.
Helen, Pamela, Lyndon.
Whatever you want to be called.
Wow, what a story.
I enjoyed that a lot.
It's kind of an interesting one.
It sounds like a bit of quite a character.
I think my take home from that is Diagnosis Murder.
Oh my God.
Well, shout out to a future episode, possibly.
The history of diagnosis.
I think that I would find that really interesting,
but I'd have to make you guys watch it a couple of episodes to understand.
It's really good fun.
It's really great.
Guys, if you want to hear me talk about that,
let me know on the old Twittery box,
as we call it here in the 21st century.
The Twittery box.
Twittery box.
So, Jess, that was great.
Thank you so much for educating us on the last.
Legend of Mary Poppins.
Pleasure.
Thanks for letting me talk.
And Matthew, do you have anything to sign off with?
No.
That's a definite no then.
No, I'd just, you know, follow your dreams.
Follow your dreams.
You know, that thing that you always wanted to do?
Do it.
Wear pants on the tram.
Do it.
Wear those pants.
Buddy hell, don't let society tell you you can't, because you can.
That's right.
And just remember that a.
Fuck off society, you
Dickhead.
I'm really glad I asked you
if you had anything to add.
That's right.
Matt's signing up there.
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