Two In The Think Tank - 6 - Mary Poppins

Episode Date: December 2, 2015

A spoonful of sugar will most certainly help this podcast go down! Jess takes the lead again and presents a school report on the most successful Disney movie ever! This episode, we explore the creatio...n of Mary Poppins. From the wacky author of the books, the casting of Julie Andrews and the worst accent in movie history, we cover it all.Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:52 My name is Dave Wanakie, son of Amanda. I am here with daughter of Anne, Jess Perkins. Hello Dave, son of Amanda. Hello Jess and we're also here with son of Diane Matthew Stewart. Hey what's up guys. Diane and Amanda. We were very interested before we started this episode to find that the word and is in all of our mothers' names. So honestly if you were worried about how interesting the show could get, worry no more. Because we are going to do go on about something very, very interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:27 One of us will prove his names. Well, we could do history of names. My god, that's that's a big topic. No, when I did the Beatles, it was too much history of names. Oh, wow. I imagine that there's so many names. My name was, uh, comes from Shakespeare. Do you know that?
Starting point is 00:02:43 I didn't know that. The character Jessica. Jessica. In this spelling. It was just presenting. Which Shakespearean character, Plenty of Jessica. Merchant of Venice.
Starting point is 00:02:57 There's a character called Jessica. And it was first used in that. I was going to say Merchant of Wimsey. That's a Clara Cupcake show. Merchant of Venice. Merchant of Venice. Is the actual Shakespeare? And yeahsy, that's a Clara Cupcakes show. A mention of an ass. A mention of an ass. Is the actual Shakespeare? Yeah, so that's where my name comes from.
Starting point is 00:03:08 There you go, podcast completed. My goodness. See that everyone, have a great week. I think like 90% of names, my name means a gift from God. Yeah. But just it's your turn to prepare a report and talk to Matthew and I about it. It is my turn. You said that like, it is your turn. You said they're like,
Starting point is 00:03:25 this is your turn. I am slowly turning into a musical. Excellent. It is my turn. We always start with a question. Oh, yes we do. And here is my question. What would you say is the most successful Disney movie? Oh, oh, oh, oh, are you talking box office?
Starting point is 00:03:46 In terms of success, I specifically in terms of Academy Awards. These ones are coming to mind. Lion King, Mary Poppins. The first one is Snow White. Oh, all those. What about the first, I know a little fact here. This could be it. At the first film, the first cartoon to ever be nominated for the best
Starting point is 00:04:07 Picture Academy Award. Oh Toy Story 2. No, it's only happened twice. It was a Before Toy Story now is beauty and the beast Matt did mention it though Okay, we're ranking very No, very very popular. Merry Poppins! We're talking Merry Poppins today. Oh my goodness, supercalifragilisticexplanepisode. You got very excited to say the little facelift like a Christmas tree. Oh my goodness, no, I don't want to bring down the podcast,
Starting point is 00:04:36 but I'm not a big fan of musical, so I'm hoping that this episode will finally win me over. Yeah, cool. Well, it's just an interesting story behind Mary Poppins. Really? And is it, generally, the most successful Academy Award at the Academy Awards for a Disney movie? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:52 How excellent. Yeah. It was a big, a big bloody year for them. So it's pretty exciting. Have you seen the movie, Savi Mr. Banks? Yes. No. Because that goes into the story behind making the movie.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Aha. And so that's where we're going to begin, not with say Mr. Banks, but with the writer of the original story. Oh, is that PL Trevor? Yes, very good. When you point for myself. Pamela Linden. I don't understand for. Yeah, when actually she was born Helen Linden Gough. Oh, Niggoth. Niggoth. But it... But it stands awesome. Niggoth.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I made it. I made it. Niggoth mate. Oh, she's still down there. Just came in for a pint. Niggoth. Oh, Niggoth. Right, so her name was actually Helen.
Starting point is 00:05:41 But her family called her Linden anyway. I don't know why. Now she was born on the 9th of August 1899 in Maribara in Queensland. Wow. Did you know that she's an Australian? I think I'm being Australian but I didn't know she was Queenslander or that old. Yeah so when I saw Sabia Mr Banks who just said Meribar and that's where my mum is from but mum's from Meribar in Victoria The Victoria? To be honest, I was quite disappointed when I saw that there's another Meribar, but that's okay
Starting point is 00:06:11 Onwards and upwards, so Now her mother Margaret, Margaret Agneskoff, knee more hit Oh, that's a cracker. Yeah, we all need Knee Knee Alright, okay more hit. Oh that's a cracker. Yeah we all need me. All right okay yeah okay. Oh all right. So her mother Margaret was an Australian and she was the niece of boy Dunlop more hit who was the premier of Queensland from 1888 to 1890 so we can kind of assume. The didn't. Yeah, it's who's a shortsteen, but we're kind of getting an idea that they were a relatively wealthy
Starting point is 00:06:51 family. Well, they were successful, but a blue blood. Yeah, her father was Trevor's Robert Gough. So his first name is Trevor's. Trevor's? Travis. Let's say Travis. Oh my goodness. I don't know Travis he was He was from South London. He had Irish descent, but he was born in London and he was a chronic alcoholic. Oh So he's not as blue as the rest of their blood. Yeah, but he was I don't know if being a chronic alcoholic rules You out as being like a rich blue blood. I think that is almost... Maybe not blue blood.
Starting point is 00:07:27 That's quite acceptable. Yeah. So maybe Johnny Walker Blue Blood is what we're talking about. Thank you. Thank you very much. You're both an expensive alcohol and a type of alcohol, so... Very good. No, but he was a bank manager.
Starting point is 00:07:40 So they were doing fine for themselves. All right, but he just secretly drank a lot. But he drank a lot which meant that Because of his drinking he wasn't doing very well at work and was kind of demoted to just a bank teller Not good right so the family lived in this this huge home With servants in Maribar so again, we're getting the idea that they are pretty They're fine. They're well off. They did that was was, it was, it was a colon farrell in the movie, it was played that guy. But in the, in the, that's in the saving Mr. Banks.
Starting point is 00:08:12 So Mr. Banks, yeah. But in Mary Poppins, the dad was also a bank man. Mm-hmm, there are a few little ties, so we'll get to that. But yeah, no good pick up. So yeah, they were they were living in this in this big home in Maribara with servants until she was about five and then when she was seven her dad Travis got died at home of tuberculosis. Oh, dear. At the age of 43. Right, so she's lost her dad at seven years old. A few if he used later her mum had pretty much given up, Margaret's given up. I shouldn't say that but I'm about to tell this story. One night she said to Lyndon or Pamela or she later became known. But she was also actually born Helen.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Helen. Man that is confusing. It's so confusing. So okay, so she said to Lyndon. Lyndon, okay, Lyndon, knee, Helen, knee. It's turned to be Pamela. To many knees. She says to her, hey, just look after your younger sisters, I'm just going to go drown myself in the creek. Said that to like a 10-year-old, pretty much. And did she do it? She was unsuccessful.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Thankfully. Thankfully. But that kind of ruined Helen Slash, Pamela's relationship with their mum, like she didn't really trust her so much after that. She's like, I don't really feel like you're much of a mother figure. So, she had this great aunt, Helen, Auntie Elias, she was called.
Starting point is 00:09:44 All these people just stick to your name. Oh, maybe because she's a Helen and the kids are help. That's why, that's gotta be why. There's Auntie Helen and then this Helen. But is she actually called Auntie Helen? Ellie and other Helen gets called Lyndon. It's like, if I can't be Helen, no one can. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:03 She's just claiming. So Auntie Ellie, his name is really Helen, she sort of, I think played by Rachel Griffiths in, it's saving Mr. Banks. I was going to say saving Private Ride. Every time you say it, I think you're about to say saving Private Ride. Yeah, okay, great. It's not just me. I'm going to do it at some point. It's going to happen. So she sort of was around the balance. So she sort of behind enemy lines and they have to sort of, sort of, they have to try to get sort of help her out. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:27 So Auntie Ellie was around a lot and sort of became like a mother figure. But she was quite bossy, but secretly kind. Much like a character Pamela might go on to write. Oh my goodness. Ooh, right, so Lyndon, whatever her name is. Her name's Lyndon still at this stage. She, again, she was quite a keen rider, even from a young age.
Starting point is 00:10:48 So she was publishing her poems while she was still a teenager in newspapers and stuff like that. She wrote for the Bulletin. And started to get a bit of a reputation as well as an actress under the stage name Pamela Lyndon Travis. Ah, so this is where it was. She was a stage name.
Starting point is 00:11:04 And she too had a Australian New Zealand with a Shakespearean company. This is where the name came from. It was a stage name. And she toured Australia New Zealand with a Shakespearean company, which is pretty good for a teenager. You're especially during the first world war, too, this would be. Yeah, exactly. And then she left for England in 1924, so when she was 25 years old. And that's when she just started to dedicate herself to writing under the pen name PL Travers. So this is where it's all coming together. And is the pen name thing is just so,
Starting point is 00:11:27 because Lady Riders weren't as acceptable or something? I'm not sure if by this, I think by this time it was kind of okay because she was, from what I've read, she was sort of hanging around with a lot of quite famous poets and stuff like that and they obviously knew who she was and. Maybe it was just because she was an actor maybe they didn't she thought that she would be respectful of this yeah look yeah possibly look I don't know just speculate look just speculate a lot of speculation going on
Starting point is 00:11:55 that's okay that's okay you're not a speculate about PL we're having a chat it's all good she's had many names like he's having a good time and then he got defensive of himself like I don't know anyway I think it's fair enough to speculate she's had that many names. There's got to be a reason for it. Why do you reckon it is? What do you think? I think PL Trevor's just sounds awesome. That is a cool thing.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Sounds like a proper writer. She was a bit of a weird character too. I've got some stories about her. So she's living in London, she's living with a friend Madge. Great. Less good name. Madge.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Madge. And while she's living with Madge in the winter of 1933, she began writing Mary Poppins which was released in 1934. So she's about 35 when it comes out? Yeah, come to that age. This is just a little fun fact that I found. So she really admired the work of Jay and Barry, famously known for writing Peter Pan. Peter Pan.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And her first publisher was a guy called Peter Lueland Davies, one of the five Lueland Davies boys who were the inspiration for Peter Pan. Oh. So it all kind of ties together. So like he was one of five boys and who lost their parents and Jay and Barry sort of became like a little father figure to them and helped raise them and stuff like that. And then one of them is a publisher for her book.
Starting point is 00:13:17 That's cool. That's really cool. Just a wee little tie. So yeah, people have sort of said that the bank's family in Mary Poppins is like a reformed version of the Goths, so her family. It's kind of like, they're saying of the banks that the charming features are magnified and their failures are kind of like hidden, you know, because they're not a great family when you watch it, especially as an adult. So the father's a banker, although not a drunk in the movie, probably because it's a kid's movie.
Starting point is 00:13:42 The mother is a bit all over the place, although not suicidal in the film. Again, children's movie, don't you think? Yeah, that's right. And Mary Poppins like Aunt Ellie is, I love the way they've worded this, is the great deflater, the enemy of any attempt at whimsy or sentiment. The great deflater. Wow, what a title. I might put that to my short list of solo show titles.
Starting point is 00:14:07 So good to know. So good to know. Just perfect. So wait, they're saying Mary Poppins is the great deflator. Yeah, because she's pretty well. She is a bit, but she also takes them into a chalk drawing and rides around on fake horses and stuff. Yeah, in the book I think she was a bit...
Starting point is 00:14:23 Or is that more Dick Van Dyke? That's a bit more Dick Van Dyke, but Mary Poppins does her a bit of fun. But in the book she was a bit more stern. She was kind of a bit hard on them. And then obviously Disney made it pretty Disney. Was the book a musical? Yes, it was a musical book. Sing along as you read.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Make up your own tune. You just push the button, it would play a little tune for you. You know that classic 1930s trope? Yeah. Sing a little musical book. You enjoyed that, didn't you? Yeah, that's a good one. Thank you. All right. So Walt Disney was introduced to the books by his daughters, he had two daughters, and he was like reading the stories, and he's younger, I think, younger-stored, or elder sort of Diane, really loved it. And so he first attempted to purchase the film rights
Starting point is 00:15:11 as early as 1938, so four years after the book would come out. And she was just like, yeah, no, you're not making a film. It won't do justice to my work. She was a bit of a harder. Isn't that crazy? Cause he was like, Disney was already huge, right? Pretty big. Yeah, yeah, so be most people like oh, yeah, that'd be amazing. It would be incredible But she was like nap you won't do my work justice and it's I love how he fought for it
Starting point is 00:15:37 It's like for a long time. It feels like if I was here We like yeah fair enough. I'll get someone to write another nanny book Yeah, I will go with that instead. He really wanted it. He totally changed it anyway. It feels like you just, maybe it was making a movie called Larry Bloppin.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Yeah. It was pretty much exactly what they did on that Simpson's episode and Sherry Bloppin. Oh yeah. Exactly, they could have just done that, but no, he really kept fighting for it. And so Disney was known at the time primarily as a producer of cartoons.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Yeah, so I think that might have been part of it, right? Yeah, so he hadn't done a live action... He hadn't done any at all. He was pretty keen to, because I think they'd had an animated strike. And so he was pretty keen to see what other options they had going forward. How about real people? Why, I never. So it took about 15 years for him to get the rights.
Starting point is 00:16:30 He kept going. That's awesome. Look, I feel guilty about saying that he should have ripped it off. No, I don't think so. I think you did the right thing. Just so Dave, I don't want to make you think that I would just if you wouldn't sell me your rights to say an episode of Fact I don't want to make you think that I would just... But you would rip off?
Starting point is 00:16:45 If you wouldn't sell me your rights to say an episode of Fact-E-Facts or one of your things that I would just rip it off and make a show called Fuck-D-Fuck-D-Whatever, I wouldn't do it. I would. Yep, that's right. I knew you were us two with both of you, so thank you. That's right. I knew that I could not trust the daughter of Anne, but the son of Diane on your hand, trustworthy man. It's a loyal fellow.
Starting point is 00:17:10 He certainly is. It looks so proud now too, look at him. Oh, a little cutie pants. So she is what, you know, 50s by the time she says yes to it. Is she wanting the money? And has she written other stuff? Like, I don't know her other. Yeah, the Mary Poppin series is about seven books in it
Starting point is 00:17:27 Right, I think so. And she written a lot of poetry and stuff like that But this was probably her most popular. But did you get the feeling that she was well Doing all right, selling enough of the books or was it eventually that is that Disney coin? Which you thought yeah, I want to retire. Yeah, I'll take a million dollars I think the Disney coin certainly helped because it always helps with Disney coin was she thought, yeah, I want to retire. I'll take a million dollars. I think the Disney coin certainly helped because it always helps with Disney coin because that's the thing like that the agreement that they made was Stand alone as well because like so it was 1961 by the time that he finally succeeded in getting it But she demanded that she got script approval rights, which was unheard of and she got a cut of the The gross makings right Dem sweet dollars that she got script approval rights, which was unheard of, and she got a cut of the gross
Starting point is 00:18:05 makings. Right. Dems sweet dollars. She got that. So that was unheard of, especially script approval. Like normally it would just be like, I'm buying the right studio story, cool, see you later. But she got script approval, which is very cool. And so she was an advisor to the production.
Starting point is 00:18:22 So I don't know, I should stop like quoting saving Mr. Banks, but basically they like flew her over and she was there like approving things as they will come out with it, especially a lot of the music that the Sherman brothers were doing. I've got a bit of, I've got some info on the Sherman brothers later, but yeah, she wasn't too impressed with a lot of the music. From memory, I don't think she was too happy with Supercalifragilistic Xperiodosis. She's like, it's nonsense. And is that in the book at all?
Starting point is 00:18:52 I doubt it. So on the page, just without a songwriting it, it would be quite hard to read, especially in a children's book. Mom, what's that word? Don't worry about that. No, just to see it. It's not real. It is not real.
Starting point is 00:19:07 She also hated the use of any animation. So she was pretty unhappy about the music. She didn't want any animation in there. And she, because of all the things that she was unhappy with, she ruled out any further adaptations of the later Mary Poppins novel. So it's like one of seven books. She was like, you're not doing anything else
Starting point is 00:19:26 with any other Mary Poppins. Like, you just know. You've fucked it. You've fucked it. Also, I've got enough money now to keep going. Yeah, exactly. She's like, I'm fine. She also, Disney kept overruling her.
Starting point is 00:19:39 So she was like, yeah, no, I don't want any animation. And he was like, well, your contract says that I get the final say. So. I'm pretty famous for this one stuff. But like, he really pushed, he fought so hard to get the rights. And then she just kept fighting him on everything.
Starting point is 00:19:56 It's like, it must have been very frustrating. But at the same time, for her to see her work just get completely changed as well. She sounds like a weird unit. Yeah, but I was going to say, you said it's the most successful Academy Award at the Academy Awards for any Disney film ever. It's a big hit. We are all still now at 50 years later, so it was pretty successful. I think he did pretty well with it. Yeah, it's like, but it's like it's not her thing anymore. Yeah, I think she was just, from what else I've read about here,
Starting point is 00:20:25 she's just a bit of a strange unit, so. Just feels like it would have been better for her to just say no. Yeah, for her personally, yeah. Yeah. Not dollar-wise. Because she was still, she was still anti-it-once it came out, and it was successful. She's like, it doesn't matter, right?
Starting point is 00:20:41 Yeah, exactly. Well, that's the thing. So she, their relationship wasn't too amicable or too friendly. And she wasn't even invited to the premiere. Oh, really? Yeah, until she, I think her words were embarrassed to Disney executive into extending one. So she sort of said to somebody, yo, why aren't I invited?
Starting point is 00:20:59 Hey, this is PL. Yeah, oh, hey, PL, did you not get the invite? I think we sent it. Oh, so we sent that to your old addressing Queensland. Yeah, oh, hey, PL, we did you not get the invite? I think we sent it. Oh, so we sent that to your old address in Queensland. Yeah. Oh, no. Wrong Mary Sparrow. Yeah, we sent it to Victoria.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Oh. Whoopsie. Right, so she goes to the premiere and at the after party. She said, the first thing that has to go is the animated secrets. And Disney apparently replied, Pamelaela the ship has sailed and walked away Like slam come on She was still trying to make edits after the premiere. Yeah, and it's like no no no, it's premiered
Starting point is 00:21:36 Just a weird little fact about her. So she never married She apparently had like a quite a long-term relationship with a married man. They've also sort of... Walt Disney? No, she was living with a woman for a long time and a lot of people were like, oooh, but you know, it's all speculation. But at the age of... You're living with a woman, you say.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Wow. One of the points they made about her was that she wore trousers whenever she wanted. Oh, I've heard enough from him. Oh my goodness gracious. My mind's been made up. Good heavens. was that she wore trousers whenever she wanted. Oh, I've had enough. Oh my goodness gracious. My mind's been made up. Good heavens. I don't care about any of that.
Starting point is 00:22:10 It's made up. That's right. Stop. Very long, speculation. Look, Jess, I don't want to be. I don't want to do that. I don't think that anyone would give a shit about that anymore, really.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Would you take that? Oh, maybe. I just wanted to say that I've noticed that underneath the table at the other end there, just you're wearing long pants. I am, I'm wearing shorts. Wait, who's your housemate? My mom. Oh, eh!
Starting point is 00:22:33 Ah! Yeah, do you have anything more to say? Are you writing any books? Having any affairs with married men? I mean, Nanny related a bit. I'll be saying on a podcast. Do you know Mr. Walt Disney? Oh, baby, I do. Yeah, good. No, I don't. He's dead. Long dead.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Oh, is it a method he's frozen? Yeah, that's a myth. That's got a bit of a myth. I hope it's true. I fully believed it. So people say that it's actually at Disneyland. That's great. Oh, creepy.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I underneath Splashmails. Oh, no. I want to get a Disneyland now. Just to find him. Yeah, we'll find him. That feels like that could be a fun movie to make. Finding Walt's head. It's a good title too. Finding Walt Popsicle. No, wait, okay. Let's go to be something better. Maybe it doesn't have to be finding. Wait, what was... no, saving. That's what it should be.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Saving Walt Ice Knee. Yeah, there it is. There it is. Worth the wave. Defrosting Walt. Yeah, I think that's actually pretty good. Defrosting Walt. You just put him in a big microwave?
Starting point is 00:23:46 I reckon there's someone in this. Just leave him out on the bench. Have you seen Austin Powers? That is exactly what happens at the start of Austin Powers. They melt Walt Disney. They un-mel... Austin Powers. They un-mel-tum. You know he's frozen? He comes for them to. They un-mel-tum.
Starting point is 00:24:04 When you un-mel-tum that means I guess they did freeze him first. Yeah, sorry They are but yeah, we could do that we could just do that with Walt and then Walt's like a psychedelic But he wouldn't be psychedelic it'd be what pretty I like the 60s. Oh, I could be a little sorry. Oh, well anyway I feel like we're getting when he was already an old Some really good stuff now. Yeah, yeah, so we're talking like we're getting. When he was already an old, to some really good stuff now. We are, we are. So we're talking about, we're not talking about Walto. We're talking about P.L.
Starting point is 00:24:29 So she's got a, she wears trousers. And she's got a personal life that people speculate on. Exactly, right? So, but like a little unconventional, especially for that time, right? So she didn't do the usual conventional things at the time she didn't get married and have some kids.
Starting point is 00:24:44 So at age 40 She decided she wanted to have a kid so she adopted a baby boy from Ireland apparently this is quite funny Apparently first she tried to adopt this like 17 year old girl Who was I was like go away? Yeah, so then okay, so I Can't a rich I've bought you. I bought you child. If I can't have that 17 year old girl, I'm gonna get a fresh one there.
Starting point is 00:25:09 If you like, if you do wanna be a parent, but not, you know, spend too much time on it, a 17 year old would be perfect. One year? One year? Well, there you go. I've done my internship. I've shaped you into a young woman and you're free to go.
Starting point is 00:25:24 See everyone, it's not that weird a web pants. I had a child. I had a child. Exactly, right? Everything's making sense. I don't know time we're wearing pants. Was any sort of controversy. No, but it was like whenever she wanted.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Like I think you could wear pants, but only if you were like, you know, gardening. Yeah, that's right, but she was like, I ain't gardening. I'm just on the tram. Oh, she wore pants on the tram. But whenever. Whenever she wanted. No, I now I understand. Can you, I can understand why she wasn't invited to the, the premiere. Can you imagine wearing pants to a premiere of a film? Hmm.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Ugh. I know I wouldn't. No. So, but she's adopted a, uh, one. She's adopted a baby. A's adopted a baby from Ireland. From Ireland. Who's she named? Camillus? Camillus? Travers' home. Now this is-
Starting point is 00:26:12 She really is not having a lot of great life in the hands. Where's the home from? Yeah, okay. So he was the grandchild of Joseph Hone, who was WB Yates's first biographer, another weird tie-in with another poet writer? So how was Camelus related to this hone? He was a grandchild of Joseph Hone, who was raising his seven grandchildren with his wife, presumably something that happened to him.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Why did she plucked one of the seven? Yeah, it gets worse. So she took one of the seven grandkids of Joseph and Camelus, Camelus, was unaware of his true parentage, all the existence of any siblings until the age of 17, when Anthony London identical twin brother. I don't know if I don't a good but but definitely That would be for turns up and he's like I want to see my brother and Old panns like na na na you've been drinking get out of here. How old is he in her 70s mother's age? Yeah, well So she's 57 When when Camelus's brother Anthony turns up And says you've been drinking. Yeah, apparently he'd been he had been drinking and he wanted to see his brother And she refuses and then
Starting point is 00:27:32 She and her son have a fight over that and he wanders off to find his brother found him in a pub on Kings Road So like brother like brother? Isn't that weird though that like you took one of the twins? That is pretty messed up. Considering that there were five... Take all seven. Separate twins. Siblings in particular.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Don't separate siblings. I remember there's seven. Pick one of the other five. Yeah, no, absolutely. But twins in particular, don't. It's a bit weird. And now like everything's done differently now. If that was the case, they'd be more likely to be aware of them the whole time,
Starting point is 00:28:08 probably have a relationship with them, probably not do it at all, but if it did happen, be like, yeah, just so you know, you are, I've adopted you and your brothers. Still in Ireland. It's much more accepted. Yeah, that is totally weird. But back then, it'd be like, you can't tell them, we have to pretend that you're my real kid. Yeah, weird is totally weird. But back then it would be like, you can't tell them, we have to pretend that you're my real kid. Yeah, weird, very weird. So she lived quite a strange life. So the Camelus, what every name is, at the time,
Starting point is 00:28:36 I machine me here was just Camelus Travers, like the home, because otherwise you'd be wondering your whole life. No, well it says she's named him Travers Home. Keep asking, she's like, named him Traverse Home. Keep her asking. She's like, I just like the name. Yeah, I just added it. Don't ask questions. It's so strange. You don't have six brothers and sisters. What? I never, I never asked them about. You didn't. So strange. So she, she, she looked quite a strange life. And she lived until she was 96 years old. Oh my, so she died at... 96 she died. Oh, she died, she was 96 and it was the year 96.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Wow, she was alive in her lifetime. Yeah. I did not know that. Yeah, she was. Cup that Walt she lived by, I don't know. Yeah, by a lot. That's old for now. She lived in by 30 years.
Starting point is 00:29:18 That is old for now, yeah. So she was... Even her son passed away in 2011, like he's... He gone. That's awful. Oh wait, so Cam-less. He gone. He is. He's on again. Oh my goodness. He laid out Kamilis. Enough about her. Stuff her. She's no fun. Let's talk more about the actual film, shall we?
Starting point is 00:29:38 Okay, so Mary Poppins, what year did it come out? It came out in 1964 and at the date I think you were quite enjoy. It came out on the 27th of August, the day in between our birthdays. Oh wow! That is enjoyable. For everyone here apart from everyone else, apart from you too. Only 26 years before we were even born. Which is fine. But the other thing about her living in 96 is she saw, she knew that it was like an enduring. Oh yeah, it came out three times.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Like she was, yeah. It got really nice. Did she ever get turned around? I don't think so. It's amazing. I don't think so. There are like letters. I think they're in a museum slash library in New South Wales.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Letters that she'd written to Walt and stuff, but they've kept some of it a little hush-hush. Like, nobody can see those. They're not photos of her, like, incompromising pants. It's like the one photo of one time she wore a dress, and she's like, don't show anybody that ever. It's in her last wheel and test. It was like sending photos to Walt being like I will send these to the London Times. A photo of me in Flair's if you don't change the cartoons and everyone will know that that film is written by a crazy crazy woman
Starting point is 00:30:59 that pant lady. I will ruin you Walt. I will ruin you. No, it's okay. That's the thing though. So the film came out in 64, right? And Walt died in 66. So he didn't even get to see how... The movie opens to Universal Acclaim. Like it did really well. But he didn't get to see it. It came out another two times, they're like re-released it and it's gone to Broadway and he never got to see how big it was. Isn't that cool? Kind of sad, yeah. He also never got to see Finding Nemo. So, which I never got into. Makes you think. We really liked Finding Nemo.
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Starting point is 00:32:36 Take classes online or on campus, and financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time time mycomputercareer.edu. I wanted to talk about the main cast of Mary Poppins. There's a fun little tidbits. So Julia Andrews of course playing Mary Poppins. Was this the first for after Santa music? Before. She's her first. Did she win an Academy Award for us? before after Santa music before first first did you win?
Starting point is 00:33:06 did you win an academy award for it? she certainly did oh my so first role straight to the top yeah and there's a fun little thing about it so she'd had a fairly successful stage career she played Eliza do a little in my fair lady on Broadway however when they when it came time to make my fair lady the film their studio head Jack Warner decided that Julia Andrews didn't have the star power. She's like, you're not gonna draw anybody in, right?
Starting point is 00:33:29 So they got Audrey Hepburn instead. Well fair enough, she was massive. Well exactly right, and as he said, this is a quote from him, he said the decision was easy, because he said, in my business, I have to know who brings people and their money to a cinema box office. Audrey Hepburn has never made a financial flop.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Which was true, so. Is it true that there wasn't her vocals though? Was it? It wasn't. Was it Julie Andrews? No, it wasn't, but there's like a fun little thing. Yeah, it was somebody else. Yeah, it wasn't even Audrey Hepburns voice. I've got a fun fact about that later, which ties into Mary Poppins as well. Oh, very good. So Julie Andrews. She's been thrown off as not another box office star and at first roll It's the massive success and she's one in Academy Awards. Mm-hmm. Yep, and so and Walt Disney approached her To do Mary Poppins and she was kind of like I'm not so sure because she was three months pregnant
Starting point is 00:34:21 At the when he approached her and he said we'll wait for you Wow, so there's Walt while he can see star powers. So he has worked 15 years. Who's ever heard of Warner Brothers? Yeah, he has worked for 15 years just to get the rights to this story and then he waits even longer to get Julia Andrews to play very well because they waited like another year so she could have the kid be ready to go. It was probably like all the extra fucking about
Starting point is 00:34:45 because of JP, Dumbini or whatever name is. No, that's not right. That's the yellow. So, was that African cricketer? Yeah, what's the name? L.P. We were just looking at Macy and JP. P.L.
Starting point is 00:34:55 P.L. Travis Good. We got there. Oh, no. What was I saying? What is it? Yeah, so like that extra year was probably just time spent, you know, going through her edits and stuff because she you said she had final say, right?
Starting point is 00:35:12 No, Disney had final say. Oh, but what was it she had script approval? Script approval, right? So she had input and they, well based on the knowledge I have from saving Mr. Banks, they did their best to kind of accommodate her, but that could be from their perspective, and they're like, she was hard work, we're delightful, it could have been the other way.
Starting point is 00:35:30 But yeah, so she had a lot of input with the script. She sounds like a raving widow. Well, look at those pants. Oh, do we have to mention the pants? She crazy. Yeah, well. There is something about that, like whoever tells the story always comes across a bit better,
Starting point is 00:35:45 and she's just, she's one out, and it's very easy to like alienate someone like that just to go, oh yeah, we wanted to make this great movie, and ever she kept stopping us, but she might have just been like, no, you promised that you would do it this way, and now you... Yeah, exactly. Well, she did adopt a child, a twin, and call it Kamalista. Well, I start, I'm starting to wonder, is this call it Kamalisa. Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I wonder is this all Disney propaganda maybe the child thing ever happened It takes a dramatic sip of
Starting point is 00:36:12 What I just did Kamalisa even died in 2011 who knows? Oh Bombshell bombshell is is Walt Disney dead is Travis dead Yeah, now she's pretty old. Yeah, she's really old. So Mary Poppins became the biggest box off draw in Disney history. Now Andrews won the 1964 Academy Award for Best Actress and the Golden Globe for Best Actress. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And it's funny because my fair lady was in competition for the Golden Globe. Oh, that's me. And so that's where it was quite, I think it's become a little bit famous as a little bit of sweet revenge when Julie Andrews won the Golden Globe. She closed her acceptance speech by saying, and finally my thanks to a man who made a wonderful movie and who made all this possible in the first place. Mr. Jack Warner. So she thanked the guys who rejected it.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Oh my goodness. And she, I've seen the interview with her and she, this is like recently and she said she was so nervous. Like she said it and then immediately regretted it because she was like, oh no. Bridge burning. Yeah, yeah, but he laughed. Everybody just roared laughing and he laughed. That's fine. So I was a famous story. Everyone knew that she was knocked back for that right time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And her Oscar speech, I think people kind of know it as well because she said, I know you Americans are famous for your hospitality, but this is really ridiculous. She's so charming and lovely and wonderful.
Starting point is 00:37:36 What a charm. Just the best. Now I've got a question for you. What was the next Disney movie that she appeared in? Oh, the only other one I can think of is Santa music, but is that even Disney? Not Disney. Oh, I don't think I know any of her other movies. Is it a live-action movie?
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah. I've got no idea. No, the Disney movie. The next one. Oh, Alice in Wonderland. No, it was the Princess Diaries in 2001. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness, she's the Queen of Genovia. Queen of Genovia. Yeah. Yes, I have seen the Princess Star is one and two. Yeah, of course Yeah, really so that long that long of course you have 36 years in between Disney movies. Yeah Which is like she was part of the biggest film they've done you think they'd be like hey Do you want to come back and star in another one just to do her? Yeah, and then 36 years later They're like oh, do you want to play somebody's grandma? What are the movies has she been in?
Starting point is 00:38:26 lots music series later they're like oh do you want to play somebody's grandma what are the movies has she been in lots What I don't know do I know anyone? I sent a music and well she's done Voice work for a few Disney movies and stuff now beyond that so like Shrek and stuff because she doesn't sing anymore Does she? No, she can't well she can but they botched a noduled surgery on their way. I'm not sure. That's a real shame. She can't sing the same. She can still sing. Her voice is amazing.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Like I can sing. Well, no, no, no. She can actually sing. Just not in the same voice. Not as high. She's me. It sounds like a... She doesn't have the same range.
Starting point is 00:38:58 She could do four octaves. I don't think she can now. Bugga. That's all. What a jerk. Whoever that surgeon was. Yep. Let's find out. Let's fuck him up. Of theger. Yeah, that's all. What a jerk, whoever that surgeon was. Yeah. Let's find out.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Let's fuck him up. The surgeon. Yeah, well that seems. Okay, well I think. Let's fuck his, you took her nodules. We're going to take your couple of your fingers, Mr. Surgeon. Fair is fair. A nodule for a finger that common phrase.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah, I'm with you. I like where you go. I'm in. So the other main actor in the film, Dick Van Dyke. Oh, big fan. Big fan, diagnosis murder. Oh, so good. From the 1990s, one of my favorite TV shows. With his son.
Starting point is 00:39:37 With his son, Barry. Yeah, so good. Yeah. Have you seen any of the... No, I have. No, no, no. It's just so funny that that's the first thing you say, because when I was researching this, I was talking to... I'm no no, it's just so funny that that's the first thing you say because when I was researching this I was talking to I'm gonna do I'm gonna do like a little name drop. It's not a name drop at all. I was chatting to Me and then friend Lewis Dale
Starting point is 00:39:55 Name drop right and I I said What do you know about Mary Poppins and he said oh dig van dyke diagnosis murder and then I was like okay Well, I've got to do some more research. He goes, I said diagnosis murder. What more do you need? And the first thing you say. Is actually all you need, I'm sure you need. It's all you need. Very, very big thing.
Starting point is 00:40:12 And with that, that's the end of the podcast, guys. So I hope you enjoyed it. No, so okay, Dig Van Dyke, he, um. Dr. Mark Sloan on diagnosis murder. Put the hands out there. He also, he had a huge share with his own Dig Van Dyke. Yeah, the second time. Yeah, the second time. Yeah, the second time. Yeah, the second time. Yeah, Man's Doctor. Yeah, he was quite big. He was more well known for some TV stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Not so much film. He did a lot more film work after this. So it was still kind of a big breakthrough for him as well. Was there someone about him, was he the first choice? Or was there some nerves about him? Because he's American doing a Cockney accent. Well, that's it. And he's not doing it very well. Not so good. That's what happens. There's a really fun story about that. He originally, Travis wanted only an English cast and then Disney and one of the other
Starting point is 00:40:55 guys who was sort of putting the whole thing together cast a blend of American and English to make it more accessible. So I think I don't think it was controversial that he was American because I had a few Americans. But yeah, his accent has been voted as one of the worst in film history. How not surprised. Yeah, and it's given to actors as an example of how not to sound. In a 2003 poll by Empire magazine of the world's the worst ever accents in film he came second Oh, who was first? Sean Connery in the Untouchables. Oh, okay, right because he's trying to be
Starting point is 00:41:31 Even though he was a western movie and he's like a Scottish girl. Yeah, and he won He won an Academy Award for that performance despite his terrible accent so Dig Van Dijk did I think it's pretty great. To me, it feels like if you can, if you, a movie can get by something so big as a botched accent in one of the lead roles, it says good things about the movie or just the willingness of the audience to forgive. Probably a willingness of the audience. I always hate it when accents are terrible in movies.
Starting point is 00:42:04 But it's kind of, I mean, it's a cartoon, it's like a live-action cartoon film really. So it's kind of like everything can be a bit hot and and weird and it's okay. He's a chimney sweep who's flying around and is that, am I remembering that right? And he's, so you know, his weird accent's not the, oh that's a bit far fetch, I don't believe that accent. Yeah, he floats through the air at one point fair enough. No, according to Dick Van Dyke himself. Oh, has he defended it or is he? Well, I think he was always like, yeah, it was shit, but you know.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Yeah, you know, he knows it was bad, because his accent coach was Irish. So how's his accent coach going to help him? How's his accent coach going to help him? What you got to do there, Dickie? Yeah, exactly, but he says that he's actually coached wasn't any better than he was. And nobody had told him that it was bad during the filming. Like nobody said anything.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I'm saying everyone's just like, don't tell Dick. Don't tell Dick. Yeah, exactly. Don't mention that he's all full. Mr Van Dyke, another great job of the character. Keep manning it. Great. Is that not your natural voice?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Mr Van Dyke, my goodness. Yeah. Oh, oh yes, lovely. I love the idea that he takes it so seriously that he stays in character for the six weeks of filming. So he said, yeah, he's not like the deli or anything like that. Oh, Lava, Strasbourg sandwich. Thank you. Oh, right. I thought that was Dick Van Dyke, but clearly not, that's a weird voice. That's a deranged man.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Yep, so that's a little fun fact about Dick Van Dyke, yep. Do you have any other stuff about the cast? Do I vaguely remember one of the kids had an early and sad end? God damn, yes! That's what I was getting to next. Oh, sorry, yes. No, no, no, I'm liking that you remember these things. So the kids were Matthew Garber who played Michael Banks and Karen Dottress who played Jane. This was the second of three Disney films that they started together. All three. Oh, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. No
Starting point is 00:43:59 Great. It was right. The Dick Van Dykes in that, they're right. Is it even a Disney movie? No, no, no, no it even a Disney movie? No. No. That was written by Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is written by someone else famous, right? You know that. Is it Roll Dull? No.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I think it might be the James Bond author. In Flemish. Yeah, I think. No, no. OK, good. Well, that's a weird thing. I'm looking at that up right now. The Sherman Brothers did the music for Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
Starting point is 00:44:24 as well. Oh, OK. So there was a connection. And they worked a lot with, good. Well, that's a weird thing. I'm looking at that up right now. The Sherman brothers did the music for Chitty Bang Bang as well. Oh, okay. So there is a connection. And they worked a lot with, um, yep. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Screenplay, role dial. Thank you, well done. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Well done. It might be based on, um, loosely based on Ian Flaming's novels together. There you go. I'm like, he's not based on Ian Flamington novel, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, Colin, the magical car. Oh. Was, uh, his book a musical? Yeah, you are.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Don't winking me. Oh my goodness, that was, that was great. Wait, so, uh, what were the other movies? I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it? I can't say that. I remember the boy and some of them. All three children were in something together. There's only two kids. Is it, uh, bed, knobs and broomsticks? No.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Is that a thing? Bed, knobs. It's a thing. What kind of a movie is that? What did you say? Bed, knobs and broomsticks. That is not. Is that a movie?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Is it bed, knobs? Yeah, it brings things. It's not your life never thought about it. No, I'm not. My dad, I want to give it a little bit more. That's a weird thing. My dad used to use a phrase when he wanted to say something to scream at least something. He'd be like, just between you and me and the Bedpost.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I think it was in the Bed Nobs and Brunsticks, yes. Bed Nobs and Brunsticks. Okay, no. The two other films they were in together were the three lives of Thomas Cena, which is in 1963. So before Mary Poppins, and their third was the no-mobile in 1960s.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Oh, gosh. Not as popular as Mary Poppins, right? Now Karen Adotras, who played Jane, she did a little bit more acting as a child and teenager. It's funny, in hindsight, she said she'd never have done Poppins or any of her other films if she'd had to do it over again Wow, no, she wouldn't want to be a good one. Yeah, I would have done it again Just for being like a child actor, I think was pretty rough on it
Starting point is 00:46:14 It would be very hard. It feels like more often than not that It's a life-reward. It's not a big success. It just does not go well. Yeah, it's yeah Or there's a higher chance of it not going well anyway. There's so many that you know started really young that might be okay now, but they certainly had a really rough patch in the middle. Do you want to know, like they went through drugs or like? Yeah, yeah, yeah, or some just... Lots of money in time.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Yes. It's just not good. And no, like, there's's nothing big big patches of doing nothing Yeah, you've got a movie starting six months, but for now you've just got millions of dollars and nothing to do Yeah, no real life like So it's interesting though that even with the success of pop and she says not wouldn't do that again It's interesting though that even with the success of Poppins, she says, not wouldn't do that again. Because she says that children should be learning
Starting point is 00:47:07 and growing at their own pace, rather than living in a just and bebaresque type world surrounded by a bunch of yes people. I think she's a little jaded. I'll have to cut that bebar as well. How did I get drawn into this? Yeah, this is 40 years before I was born. So she did a bit of acting as a teen bit and retired.
Starting point is 00:47:24 A little bit. She gave up her own career when she was asked as a teenager to appear to topless on screen. That was the point for her to be like, nah, I'm out. Wait, as a teen. As a teenager, yeah. I mean, that's inappropriate, but surely you could just say no to that role and then do other roles that you are interested in. Yeah, I think, I think Walt Iverset the mark there. Yeah, it's definitely Wald. If you're going to quit at that point, she was probably already mentally pretty checked out anyway. She didn't do a lot of acting.
Starting point is 00:47:53 She went on to do other stuff. I think she was still involved in the arts, but not so much. Matthew Garber, he didn't do a lot of acting after the No Mobile, which was the movie in 67. But he contracted Hepatitis while in India in 76 and he died in June of 1977 from Pankhury Atitis. Oh dear. He's only 21. That's a bit sad. Oh, it's not the music. That's bringing things up with a bit of... So Sherman, as I mentioned the Sherman Brothers before, they're Richard and Robert Sherman. They won two Academy Awards for Mary Poppins.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Subsequently, they have earned nine Academy Award nominations, two Grammy Awards, four Grammy Award nominations, and 23 Gold and Platinum Certified albums. 23. They are very busy and very talented dudes. So I've got a list of the awards that they won. So this is for Mary Poppins. So Mary Poppins was nominated for 13 Academy Awards. 13. And one five. Pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good for a
Starting point is 00:48:57 little Disney flick. So these are the five that they won. They won Best Actress in a leading role, Julia Andrews, Best Film Editing, Best Effects, Special Visual Effects. Oh, yeah, see that PL? Those cartoons were awesome. Yeah, okay, award winning. Yeah. Best Music Original Song.
Starting point is 00:49:14 So, okay, the song that won was Chim Chim Marie, but they also won for Best Music, so Original Score. So that's where the other songs were. So Tum Tumari was the one that won. It was like, top notch. Some of you finest work their lads, et cetera. Et cetera, that's what they, that's exactly how they presented the award to them.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Yeah, probably. Probably. But they were also nominated for Best Director, Best Writing. So that's the best writing screenplay based on material from another medium. That's a very long title That's you P L that's you P L
Starting point is 00:49:46 But Bill Walsh and Don DeGraeity won the Oscar because you're an idiot Best cinematography best art direction best costume design best sound Best music scoring of music adaptation or treatment so that it's just nominated for everything like every single element of it The performance the color everything was nominated, But it missed out on the best picture. It did not get best picture. So you know who won that year? Dave, can you look that up quickly? Right now. 65. Check it. 1965. The best picture that year was my favorite. Produced by Jack L. Warner. So everyone's a winner. So yeah, so no one who was laughing,
Starting point is 00:50:28 because he knew he was about to be. Nobody would be that mad about it. Yeah, okay, I guess that's fair. That was, and talking of bad accents, have you seen my fill, Eddie? I watch you look at the ears ago. Ow, one, Nephy. It's like, it's awful.
Starting point is 00:50:44 It's so wonderful. Why are you like? That's probably someone else, but it was basically that How? No, it's not good They also won Golden Globe, so Julie Andrew got the Golden Globe for that as well as I mentioned before They were nominated for Best Motion Picture, Best Motion Picture Actor, Dick Van Dyke Even with these horrendous accent. And they were again nominated for Best Original Score.
Starting point is 00:51:07 They also won a Grammy Award. So Best Original Score written for Motion Picture or Television Show. And Best Recording for Children. So that included the Sherman Brothers as well as Julie Anderson and Dick Van Dyke. So Dick Van Dyke is a Grammy Award winning. But he's a good singer, right? Dick. And sing a bit. is a Grammy award winning. He's a good singer, right? Dick? Um.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Are they often, he sings in nearly every Christmas episode of Diagnas' murder? Like... Yeah, he can sing. I mean, he's no Julie Andrews. Have yourself a pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty Dave down the track you probably want to give it some space but can you do diagnosis murder one episode? Oh I'm such a big fan. I've seen all okay. Okay. I'll save this for that time. Oh, okay, but I will do it. I'm gonna share fun fact Should we finish with some fun facts? I love to finish some fun facts as well Okay, so Duke Van Dyke also portrayed Mr. Dores Senior in the film, so the old director of the banks where Mr. Banks works. Do you remember that scene? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:12 At all, like so the kids go to the bank and they're intimidated by this scary old man. Well, it's Dig Van Dyke playing that role as well. I love to think the director was like, oh no, the old man that was going to play the director, I mean the bank manager just sick, who can we get? Oh, Dicks really good at accents. Yeah. Let's get him off. Well that's the thing, they didn't want him to,
Starting point is 00:52:30 and he really, really wanted to do it. He really wanted to, no. Which is so funny because undyingness is murder there. Not one, not two, but several episodes where he plays multiple characters. Yeah. Where he plays himself, he goes to like this old haunted mansion, and there's these four older people,
Starting point is 00:52:45 which is clearly him in prosthetics, like Nuddy Professor Style. Him playing people with both men and women in wheelchairs and these people that have this really old brothers and sisters fighting out for this wheel money. Oh, it's really bad. He loves it.
Starting point is 00:53:02 He loves love big dress up. So he convinced his need to let him do it By like I think he did like a like a screen test and he's like I'll do it I'll do it. I'll take a pay cut. I'll take less money to do more jobs in a way He's he promised to like make a donation to Something yeah, he promised to make a donation. So it was a charity. Yeah, it was very strange Right, so that was that was a pretty successful scene, right? Yeah, it's good charity kiss. Yeah it was very strange right. So that was a that was a pretty successful scene right? Yeah it's a good scene yeah it's fine and like he's better than he's
Starting point is 00:53:29 better than it yeah he is a bit better. So because he's played the two characters though it's just a little a little bit fun during the films during the title credits at the end when it says like Mr. Dawes played by it says Nav Kid Kid which is is an anagram of Dick Vandar and so like those letters come up and then they read Jumbo and says Dick Vandar. Oh it does read Jumbo. To see you go oh I didn't get it. Oh I didn't have. Whoa my mind is blown because he was such a great actor.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Um Julie Andrews does obviously she does her own singing but she also does the whistling harmony for the Robin in spoon full of sugar So there's like the the bird that comes and sits on a finger and whistles. She did the whistling So she's a good whistle and I watched that last night. It's very good. She's a good whistle top notch David Tom Tomlinson who played Mr. Banks he provides the voice of Mary's talking umbrella and numerous other voice over parts In the movie That guy's great. I think he was my favorite in the movie. Yeah, he's kind of cool. I like it when he finally cracks, he punches his hand for some reason through his hat.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Yeah! What's that all about? I don't know, he's gone mad! He's a grumpy old man. Here's a little fun fact that I gave a bit of sizzle two before. So there's three Cockney Geese in the jolly holiday sequence, right? Cockney geese. Cockney geese. They're all voiced by Marnie Nixon. Now Marnie Nixon was an actress as well and was a regular substitute on musicals for actresses who didn't have very good voices. She was the one who did the singing for Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady.
Starting point is 00:55:06 So she did the Gaze in Mary Poppins. And yeah, and then she did Audrey singing for My Fair Lady and played one of Julia Andrews fellow nuns in the sound of music. It all ties together. So she's the real hero of this story. The real American hero, if you will. The greatest. Sorry, greatest. Great. According to Richard Sherman, it took him and his brother two weeks to come up with
Starting point is 00:55:31 the word supercalifregulistic expel adoes. I would love to see that meeting. Yeah, wouldn't that be great? Like every day, just nutting it out. Spitballing was. And then how do you know, once they got that, they were like nailed it. Did you, though? Did you? Supercalifractilistic. It was the only film of Disney's to get a best picture nomination at the Oscars in his lifetime. I thought it was nominated. It was not a best picture. Yeah, yeah, but just didn't win my fill. The next one was Beauty and the Beast in 91, but he died in 66. So he never saw that. Ah, he died in 66. He probably didn't even get to see the Saints when a
Starting point is 00:56:09 premiership either. Was that the next year or so? It was the same. Maybe he did. Maybe. It was almost not worth saying. Almost. It was not worth saying. No, no.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Oh, okay. This is some very recent news. So September 14th of this year, it's been reported that a... Diane Stjolz no. Oh, OK, this is some very recent news. So September 14th of this year, it's been reported that a... Diane Stjules birthday. Oh, I've been reported that it's the old Diane. It's been reported that there's a new film in development with Disney that will take place 20 years after the first Mary Poppins movie.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Really? I didn't know that. So in the 80s? No, that's when it came out, but it was set in like the 30s. No, early like 1910. It's set really early, so it'll be set in like the 30s. It's set in the 80s and everyone's got terrible hair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:54 And that's going to basically be based on the remaining seven books in the Mirapagda. Ah, so her estate. So now Kamilis has passed on. Maybe his children have signed on. All the red tape behind it, you know, Chisla Wies This is a great one. There is a Mary Poppins festival What where would it be held? Do you reckon?
Starting point is 00:57:14 Mary's brother Barra Queensland. Yeah, is it really? Yeah Never in Queensland the birthplace of a Pam They smart play by them are reckon. There's even a life-sized Mary Poppins statue in the town Queensland, the birthplace of a Pam. They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they 30 centimetres tall. And is it off to the Andrews? No, it's of the likeness to like a I think a good illustration. That is 1.5 metres. Wow. What an imposing statue.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I'm only just taller than it. Oh my god. What if it came to life? It would destroy everything. You're 100 kilos too. it's made of bronze. The person saying I'm only just taller than it is a small child. Yeah, it's pretty great though. Oh, it's definitely not a Mongolian horse, that's for sure. Yeah, oh god no.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Couple more, the filmmakers didn't tell the kids about some of the surprises that we're going to show up in the movie so they get genuine reactions from them. So like... Oh god, like what? Like, you know that scene where Mary Poppins is taking everything out of her magic bag and she's pulling out like a hat stand and stuff like that. Well the Jane, the girl who faces like what? That's genuine.
Starting point is 00:58:36 She's like, what the hell is going on here? Stop this foodoo. And her little scream when Mary Poppins gives a medicine of different colors. Do you remember that a lot? She pulls it same bottle, two different spoons, but they're two different colors, and because they got different flavored medicine. And that's genuinely her going to happen, yeah. I hate medicine. Why did they do it? I don't know. Wow. The magic of her.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Oh, yeah. Oscar for... They weren't fucking around. No way, it was spanked. And Matthew Garb also who played Michael Banks. Listen to Keith. He was paid. He was really scared of heights. And there's a scene in a tea party where they're like floating above, like they float up to the ceiling and have a tea party on the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:59:18 So they paid him 10 cents for every time they had to film that scene. Like 10 cents extra. He was still getting paid. Oh, right, but it was like a bribe. Yeah, kind of like, okay, come on buddy, we'll give you 10 extra cents if you just do this a few more times. Adorable. And finally, the film grossed between $31 and $33 million during its initial run. So they probably could have given you more than 10 cents together.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Yeah, bloody hell. $31 to $33 million, which is ridiculous. In the 60s, ridiculous. So the film was re-released theatrically in 1973 and another estimated 9 million in North America. And it was released again in 1980 and earned another 14 million, achieved a total life-term growth of over $102 million. And with the profit, so Disney made a lot of money from it, right? So he used that money to purchase some land $202 million and with the profit so like Disney made a lot of money from it right so
Starting point is 01:00:06 He used that money to purchase some land in central Florida and finance the construction of Walt Disney World So if anybody out there has been to Disney World you can thank Mary Poppins for that That's the so there was already Disney land. Disney Land was the thing. Yeah, right One of the West Coast ones on the east coast to their base. The same thing. They're similar. I don't remember the exact difference. Oh, there's different rides and you've been to both. No, I haven't been to Disney World. I've been to Disney Land in Paris and Anaheim. There's one in Paris. Yeah. Yes. There's several. There's one in Tokyo. We've got one planned for Shanghai. Yeah, really. And that gentleman is Mary Poppins.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Oh, I feel like giving her a clap just, oh, PL, PL. PL. Helen Pamela Lyndon. What a video name. Try this, whatever you want to be called. Wow, what a story. Enjoyed that a lot. It's kind of been an interesting one. Yes, it sounds like a bit of a, quite a character. I think my take home
Starting point is 01:01:05 from that is diagnosis murder. Oh my, well, shout out to a few, a few members, so it's possibly the history of diagnosis. I think that I would find that really interesting, but I'd have to make you guys watch it a couple, a couple of episodes to understand. No. It's really good fun. It's really great. Guys, if you want to hear me talk about that, let me know on the old Twittery box as we call it here in the 21st century. The Twittery box. Twittery box. So just that was great.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Thank you so much for educating us on the legend of Mary Poppins. Pleasure. Thanks for letting me talk. And Matthew, do you have anything to sign off with? No. That's a different note then. No, I just follow your dreams. Follow your dreams.
Starting point is 01:01:57 You know, the thing that you always wanted to do. Wear pants on the tram. Wear those pants. Body hell, don't let society tell you You can't because you can That's right and just remember that a spruck off society a dick head I'm really glad I asked you if you had anything to add so that's right. I'm at signing off the a spoon full of sugar Makes the podcast go down so thank you so much for listening. I'll see you next week on
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