Do Go On - 67 - The Derpy Hooves Controversy

Episode Date: February 1, 2017

This week we dip into the GOLDEN HAT to present the topic suggested by one of our patreon listeners. We delve into the mysterious world of My Little Ponies and its fans. Dave has a lot of opinions abo...ut this one! Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.
Starting point is 00:00:20 If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Oh, and welcome to DoGo on. My name is Dave Warnocky and I'm joined by two people that join me often, nearly all the time. It is Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. We join him all the time.
Starting point is 00:01:02 The three of us are joint, always. All the time. Oh, imagine if we were you can join twins. What do we? Triplets. Yeah, that's what I was good. Twins bit three. How about the time you ask if identical twins were always identical?
Starting point is 00:01:13 We've had several people tweet in saying that there are instances where they are not. most of them want medical anomalies. Sure. Anyway. Yes, we are conjoined triplets. We are, Matthew. You're my left hand. You're my left hand.
Starting point is 00:01:28 You are my left hand. I don't have a left side. He's waving with his left. So I'm on the right. That's useless. I can't do anything with my right hand. Yeah, that's annoying for you, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:38 And I'm left hand. Right hand. We should swap. We should swap you and I. That means I've got no hands because I'm in the middle. Yeah. But you just. do have torso and head.
Starting point is 00:01:49 You're all torso. I've got two nipples. Wait, are we just arms to you then? Yeah, are we your arms? Yeah, my arms are nicknames Jess and Matt. Are we your wings? You're my wingman. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Anyway, sorry that I started a weird tangent there. Hello, everyone. Hello. Is it me you're looking for? Yes. Hey, what's up? Finally answered that age old question. The answer was Jess.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Matt are drinking from a bit of What's it called again, that fizzy thing? Liquid. Fuck you. Soda water. Soda stream, soda stream. No plugs, please. Still doesn't.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Is there other brands of soda stream? That's the brand. You don't understand it, do you? It's just... No. It's just fizzy water with flavouring. Yeah. How is that popular?
Starting point is 00:02:39 That's better. See, I brought up the brand only to tear it down. Got them. I'm going to bring down this show from the inside. Episode 67. Two off our favorite comedy number. Yeah, we're waiting for it. It's going to be a big one.
Starting point is 00:02:56 We're waiting for that. 65. That's right. We are two beyond our favorite number. And it was so good. We didn't do a shout-out. We didn't realize at the time that we'd done 65. We can make up for it now.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Hey, I was on a podcast recently. This is a super delayed plug, but it was really fun. And it was in this very bloody pod studio. Are you talking about episode 66? Yes. Last week's. It was really good, right? Jack the Ripper.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Jack the Ripper. It was a bloody Ripper. A lot of fun. A lot of ripping. People have said it was a ripper. It was gross. But I was also on a Friends podcast in here a few weeks ago. Two in the Think Tank.
Starting point is 00:03:34 You should listen to it, Dave. It's a lot of fun that show. Two friends of ours, Andy and Al. Pitch sketch ideas. And Matt, you're invited. Do you remember any of the title? of the sketches you were pitching. No, I mean, it's a fast show.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You're sitting there and they've already come up with stuff. It sort of just starts happening without you even realizing it. Wow. There's sketches in front of. It's hard to keep up with those guys. Is that what comedy's like? Fast brains. To witness comedy.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah. God, you don't get that here. No, you certainly don't get it here. No, no, no. That are making stuff. What? Yeah. All we're doing is teaching stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah. We're teachers. valuable life lessons along the way. Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't teach, teach Jim. Thank you, School of Rock, Jack Black. Great movie. Who's Jim?
Starting point is 00:04:27 I would have been a good response. I would have brought Jack Black down. You shut that bastard down. Jim teachers, I'm with you. Went through a real phase of watching that movie a lot. Really? Yeah. Like, recently?
Starting point is 00:04:37 No, no, no. Ten years ago. It's a TV show as well, right? Is it? No, that's not. Or maybe? Maybe it is. I think you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Okay, great. Good try, Matt. Yeah. Maybe it is, I don't know. Now, pipe down. For the rest of the episode, you're banned from talking. Dave, turn his microphone off. All right, it's off.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Great. Matt, try and talk. Got him. Matt, we're just kidding, Matt. We didn't turn it off. Right, your mic's back on, Matt. Matt. Okay, thank you very good.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Very funny stuff. You're a piece of shit. and you're a piece of shit. Are you talking to the listener? Yes. Oh, good. Right, do you want to make that clear? I was going through them all one by one.
Starting point is 00:05:20 God. You'd keep going then because there's so many. There's more than three. There's definitely more than three. And you're a piece of shit. That's all of them. There's four of them. There's four listeners.
Starting point is 00:05:30 It's only the third time I've said it. I remember Lane on Woodley started a... Their listeners. Their listeners. They're pieces of shit. They started some sort of set... I feel like it might be at Carols by Candolite. All Carols in the day.
Starting point is 00:05:43 domain or something like that. This is many years ago. Some sort of Carol's... Can't picture anyone good being on those shows? Some sort of light... Well, I don't remember what it was, but it was like an outdoor thing. Anyway, but they were just... I remember Lainer going, hello, good-day, hi, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hi there.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And he kept saying hi, hi, and he's like, sorry, I'm just going to get through all of you. Hello, hello, good-day, hello. It was great, very funny. Do you reckon he committed? 100%. You must, Dave, you must. You must always commit. Murder.
Starting point is 00:06:09 If you're Jack the Ripper. But I'm hoping that this week, there's... We've had the last three episodes. I've been the only one to not do a murder topic. Yeah. So maybe we could steer away from murder this week. I don't know because Jess, you're going to be doing the report this week.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And you know I love a murder. You love another murder. We're doing another murder. We're not doing another murder. Don't worry, boys. Jess is going to bloody murder this. Yeah, I'm going to murder this report. In a good way.
Starting point is 00:06:36 In a good way. I'm going to murder your brains. In a good way. Like you're going to be brain dead. In a good way. In a good way. You're going to need years of life support. In a good way.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. So this week, because we have, I don't know how you want to explain it today, but we have the golden hat. In a good way. In a good way. Would you have the golden hat through, if people support us through Patreon, which keeps the show going, we appreciate that a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:05 There's a certain tier of, if you pledge a certain amount per month, your suggestions for Matt's hat go into. the golden hat, which is I imagine a section of your hat, Matt. It's just covered in gold. I thought it was your hat, Dave. I do wear a golden hat.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And that could be confusing. Because the golden tonsils, is that why? Matt, is that what you were thinking? Matt? No, I don't know. Just how I always pictured it. It would have worked, though. So these topics, if you pledge a certain amount,
Starting point is 00:07:31 go into the golden hat, which means we must do the topic, as long as there's enough information on it, you can't just be like, do a thing on my dog. Which would be fun. If he gave us enough information, we could do your dog. We could do your dog. And then we could start the report.
Starting point is 00:07:48 It's all research, Jess. It's all research. But you, Matt and I have done some golden hat topics so far. Jess, you're yet to step up to the plate. Well. The golden plate. Stepped up to the silver plate. This is a golden plated episode.
Starting point is 00:08:02 But it is. Yeah. 100% carrot gold. This is my first golden hat topic. And it was also, not that we want to set the precedent that you can do this, but it was also specifically requested that I do this topic. I'm not entirely sure why,
Starting point is 00:08:17 but it's for me to do. Yeah. Not you pesky boys. Yeah. I don't think, I don't know if that's in the rules, but you can definitely suggest it. Yeah. We can't.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And is that a compliment to Jess or an offence to Matt and I? That's what I want to know. I took it as an offense to Jess going like, um, Oh, sure. Here's, uh, here's a topic. And I want to hear you talk about it.
Starting point is 00:08:41 because I don't like hearing you do reports and I hate myself. That's how I read it. Wow, okay. You read a lot into a sentence. It's strange. But okay, that's fine. So yeah, this topic has been suggested by a good friend, an original listener from the get-go. Lovely.
Starting point is 00:09:01 All the way back from episode 65, that great episode we talked about earlier. This is a topic suggested by Cecil Hopps, who's been there from day one. And I believe he is a rabbit. He's a rabbit. He's a cartoon rabbit. He's a cartoon rabbit. For all intents and purposes. What was that?
Starting point is 00:09:19 So I'll start with a question, and you know my questions have been getting better and better recently. Do we know that, Matt? I was being facetious. They've been really bad. We don't know that, Matt. We do know that from, like, my last six reports, I think. Do you reckon you're getting worse at questions?
Starting point is 00:09:34 Just the questions. I think my reports are fine. Yeah, your reports are being. How about your hashtag? I'm trying to remember if I know what Cecil suggested. because I reckon I might have seen this. But maybe you'll be out of your question or what are you, ring some bells. Trigger your memory.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Trigger some bells. Trigger some bells. So I'll start with this question then. What is a note that I'm looking at my notes, but I don't have a question written down. What is the most popular equestrian-based television series? Saddle Club? Yeah, I was thinking of Saddle Club.
Starting point is 00:10:10 The Melbourne Cup? televised once a year. It's not really a series. Once a year for a hundred years. The Melbourne Cup Carnival. That's not a series. It's a mini series. Horsing around with Jeff.
Starting point is 00:10:22 BoJack Horseman. Oh my God. Actually, that's great. And it's anime. Yeah, okay, good one, but no. It's an animated series aimed for children. Horses and Hors. Not Dave.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Is that a real thing? No. It's not. Neither is horsing around with Jeff. I'm just having a guess. Horses and Horses, though. Horsings around is real. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Horsing Around is the show that he's on in Bojack Horseman. Right. Wasn't that cool Horsing Around? I thought they made an episode of it. Maybe they didn't. Oh, I think they made a Christmas special. Yeah. I think they did.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Oh, I don't know anymore. I'm sorry. What about, uh, you tell us. Yeah. Oh, I know, because it's bloody this guy, it will be. Come on. I'm kidding my head saying paddle pops, but that's not right. Little...
Starting point is 00:11:14 Little pony cob. My little pony club. Just my little pony. Is the club part of it? There's no club. No. You think of Saddle Club? Club.
Starting point is 00:11:21 That Australian series from the late 90s, early 2000s. No, the thing about clubbing, my little ponies. Oh, God. Going clubbing with my little ponies. Do they like to go clubbing? I reckon they would. Okay, right. More than baby seals.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Cecil's actual suggestion is the Derpy Hooves controversy, which is just one part. Oh, that very famous controversy. That famous controversy that we all know about, obviously. Do we even need to talk about it so far? No, so, I mean, that's the end of the podcast. Thank you so much for listening. Make sure you tweet to us.
Starting point is 00:11:56 It's one part of a story, but I thought I'd give you some background, if I may, if that's okay with you. Look, to be honest, I probably need a little background. Do you, do you reckon? Matt's too old to know, but I know because I'm an expert. It's perfect time for Matt, actually. Oh, is this like an 90s? No, it's more like a 1740s kind of thing. Oh, hang on.
Starting point is 00:12:18 God, him, he's old! Yeah, you're an old man. You're an old man. You're Captain Cook's dad. You're gross. Oh. You're gross. Jess seemed to think that all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:12:29 the floor was open for truth. Yeah, I thought... That's not what was happening, Jess. Dave, didn't we say we were having that intervention with him today? Yeah, I backed out. Oh, Dave, you do this every time. No, no, I can't. Matt, when are we having that intervention for Dave backing out all the time?
Starting point is 00:12:42 No, because we said we're going to do that this week. I think we should do it this week. Now, back out like I would. I'm not gross. I shampooed and conditioned today. Your beard? Both. My beard and my head.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Do you do them at the same time? Yes. Oh, you must. You must. The same time. He said that recently. It's unconventional, but it gets to different. Yeah, I thought I'd probably go one then the other.
Starting point is 00:13:04 What do you mean? You'd alternate? Oh, you mean like he's literally washing at the same? Yeah, like rinse the hair before. Oh, no, yeah. Sorry, I do one than the other. All right. Hair, then be it, please. Please, he's not an animal.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Well, that's because of gravity. Yeah, that's true. Good thinking. Yeah. Bringing science to the podcast. Sometimes you're very clever. Thank you. And other times you're real dumb.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Much like the identical twins controversy of the My Little Pony story. Controversy. So, I will give you a little bit of background. So My Little Pony is an entertainment franchise developed by Hasbro, which is marketed primarily. to girls. The first toys... Sorry, at children, girls.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Children girls. Is that great? Yeah, not ladies. Right. Girls, little girls. Now, the first toys were produced in 1981 and the ponies featured colourful bodies, mains,
Starting point is 00:13:55 and a unique symbol on one or both sides of their flanks. In the more recent incarnations of the series, these are referred to as cutie marks. Cutie marks. So they've all got, like, different things on their butts. I don't think I like.
Starting point is 00:14:09 It's kind of like how care bears had different things on their tummies. So they all have a tramp stamp. They've all got tramps stamps. I was going to say, they've changed their wording. Cudie marks. When I grew up, they were tramp stamps. What tramp stamp does your, my little pony have? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:23 You're my little pony? My your little pony. Mine's got a butterfly pooing on a dolphin. Beautiful. Beautiful. That's not a tramp stamp stamp. That's a cutie mark. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:34 The butterflies poo? They must, but how? Oh, you must. To not poo is to not live As Descartes once said Anyway So yeah they've all got cutie marks on their butts So it is on their butt
Starting point is 00:14:49 So you said flank But that's a nice word for a butt is it It's like their back But like their hip If a horse had like a hip The horse's ass The horse's ass But not right around the butt
Starting point is 00:14:58 Like next to the tail Just slightly around to one side Like a hip Like where I'm pointing on my own body now And what kind of marks Are they got? Like some will have like a rainbow, some have bubbles on them, some might have stars.
Starting point is 00:15:12 They're pretty much care bears, right? They're like care bears. What were care bears? I don't know care bears. Care bears? I know where they are, but I don't know. They're like bears who had cutie marks on their flanks. Tummies.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Tommies. They're on their little tumps. Yeah. They've got a gut butt. Gut butt. A gut. Guts stamps. Guts.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Is fun. Anyway, so now following the original My Pretty Pony toy, which was introduced in 1981. My Little Pony was launched in 83. So what was the first one in 81? My Pretty Pony. Just a toy. Just started as a toy. But they were full size. They did not so well. It was very difficult to get them into your home. Yeah, it's really good. Once your kid grew out of it.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And also kind of inhumane to dye them different colors and tattooed their flanks. Oh, they were also real ponies. Yeah. But they were glued. Not only real size, but they were real ponies. Just a pony. Were they glued to a base? Oh, obviously. So you could wheel them around. Yeah. And their mouths were glued shut.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I'm not enjoying this. But no, give us another pat. That sort of stuff. I love a pat. Check out my cutie. Still love a patootie. Couty. Couty.
Starting point is 00:16:23 So my little pony was launched in 83 and the line became really, really popular that decade. Because they're smaller. Yeah, well, it's just a different range, different range of toys. Well, whereas one person used to buy one for a dollar, now they could, in that same amount of space. fit 100 and so they sold 100 times better. Right, so they were originally selling a full-sized horse for $1. Yeah, it was very cheap. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:47 That is cheap. They almost went out of business till they made that big change to make them little. Suddenly, they're profiting like crazy. They didn't have to glue that. How much were they charging now? Still a dollar. Wow, but for the little ones. Yeah, they were making 100 times profit.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Goodness gracious. And they didn't have to like do weird gluing stuff. They were making toys instead. That's interesting. They initially tried to shrink down the actual ponies. Yeah, wow. Science wouldn't allow it. No, yeah, they had some real issues.
Starting point is 00:17:19 They exploded them. I killed a lot of ponies. Oh, no. They weren't shrink rays. They were guns. And it took them like hundreds of goes before they gave up on it. Wow. Well, I mean, I can admire their persistence, I suppose, perseverance.
Starting point is 00:17:34 They killed a lot of ponies. Yeah. Got a lot of pony blood on their hooves. The people also had hooves. The first experiment was to put hooves on people's hands. Yeah. It was a messed up time in the 80s, but we got through it. Hey, but suddenly there's little dollar ponies.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Everyone's happy. Everyone's okay. We forget about the hundreds of dead ponies. And hundreds of men with hooves for hands. And wasted bullets. Clippity clop. Anyway. So the original toy line,
Starting point is 00:18:03 The My Little Pony Toys, they ran from about 83 to 95, 92 in the US actually they kind of got over it a bit earlier it inspired animated specials and animated feature length film and animated TV series My Little Pony has actually been revamped
Starting point is 00:18:18 at least four times with new and more modern looks to appeal to a new market so they update what the ponies look like so like tram stamps in 3D or something yeah they're kind of jazzin it up a bit you know like they're cool and more progressive
Starting point is 00:18:30 how do you make a pony progressive I don't know Dave I'm pretending to care I just don't. I think it's all very interesting. So the most current series is the fourth generation. It's called My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic. Fact.
Starting point is 00:18:52 That is a fact. That is beautiful. And that's very progressive because the original ponies weren't friends at all, and they often murdered each other. Yeah, clopped each other to death. Clippity clop, clop. Do you know how long it takes to clop a pony to death? How long?
Starting point is 00:19:05 Six hours. Exactly. Yeah. Every time, it's one of these weird things from nature. They keep thinking they're going to get better at it than they don't. It's very frustrating. At 5 hours 59, you think the horse is going to pull through. One more club, that thing's gone.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Wow. That is sick. Yeah. No, it's kind of beautiful. Yeah. Okay. Well, friendship is magic. Friendship is magic, as we say on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So Friendship is Magic is an animated television series produced by Hasbro Studios, and the series premiered on October 10, 2010 on The Hub, which is an American television channel, partly owned by Hasbro. So this version was created by Lauren Faust, who was a fan in her youth and invented her own adventure stories for the toys in place of the original show's stereotypical girly stories.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Right? So like earlier generations were quite like girly, like, yeah, stereotypical girly stories like that sentence just said. Give us an example, Jeff. I don't know. What's the stereotypical? Even if it's not from the canon. So stereotypical.
Starting point is 00:20:06 What's a stereotypical, really story? Probably just like there'd be a bully, a mean pony, picking on the nerdy pony. And maybe the nerdy pony only has a couple of friends, but those friends kind of rally around her and help her overcome the bully. And then it turns out the bully's actually just kind of jealous because her parents are getting a divorce. So then the bully pony, no, the nerdy pony, like takes pity on her
Starting point is 00:20:28 and so invites her to a slumber party, and then she comes over to the slumber party. And originally she's like, ugh, I'm too cool if it. their other party, but then they actually start to have a little bit of fun, and she finally lets her guard down. She's like, guys, I'm sorry that I've been so mean to you. I'm hoping we can all be friends, and then they're all friends. That is so girly.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Wow. That was so girly, I like zoned out because I was like, if I listen to themselves become a girl. They all sink up and get their periods at the same time. There it is, the girly element. Yeah. I will wage it that that's much more entertaining than anything my little pony has ever done. My story that I did. Your story, way, way better.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Was your story mean girls? Mean ponies? Mean ponies. Well, I guess in a way, yeah. In a way, we all are, aren't we? Aren't we? Mean girls. In a way, aren't we all responsible for mean girls?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Mainly Liz Lemon, but... That's not a real name. Tina Faye. Mainly Liz Lemon. Anyway, so she had, like, in her youth, she'd sort of made up stories that weren't quite as stereotypical. And when she became responsible for this show, she endeavored to design her own version of the,
Starting point is 00:21:32 franchise to address those concerns, like about it being too girly or too stereotypical. So her series is actually acclaimed for its sophisticated writing and nuanced characters. Is that true? That's true. Apparently, I mean, I've not seen it, but people are mad for it. And it's kind of, it's pretty interesting. You didn't watch the Emmys that year, obviously? Yeah, they sweep.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Clean sweep. Every single award. It's just the nuanced characters. Newanced characters. Took it out. They won it. They won the best nuanced character. foreign film.
Starting point is 00:22:04 They also took the Oscars out as well. Oh yeah. They presented the Oscars to themselves. And also the Tonys. They won an Egot. They got the EGOT. In one year. Yep.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Wow. That's how good this is. That's how critically. Never been done before or since. Yeah, never will. Clippity Clop. Clippity Clop. Clipid Clop.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Everyone was on the Clipid Clop. That was what every, in the end they were so bored of doing acceptance speeches. They just be like, clippity clopety clop. Club, motherfuckers, Clibity clop, microphone, drop. That's what they would do. Right, and then they won, like, a...
Starting point is 00:22:40 They pronounced a microphone. Yeah, microphone. They'd go back up, win another award, pick up the microphone again. But they're not divas, they're very polite, so they'd do the mic drop, and then they'd pick it up and put it back in as place.
Starting point is 00:22:51 It's actually won a Grammy Award for that acceptance speech because that rap was so nuanced. So nuanced and sophisticated. And sophisticated. Yeah. For a show aimed at like six-year-old girls. Yeah, it's pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:23:02 None of them are. Divas, apart from, of course, Sparkly Diva. Yeah, yeah, she's... I bet you there's one called Diva Sparkles. Would you like to hear? Would you like to hear their names? Sure. Oh, there's a limit...
Starting point is 00:23:14 I just assume there would be a million of them. Well, there's quite a few, but the show follows a studious unicorn pony named Twilight Sparkle as her mentor, Princess Celestia, guides her to learn about friendship in the town of Ponyville. Twilight becomes... close friends with five other ponies. Applejack, Rarity, Flutter Shy,
Starting point is 00:23:41 Rainbow Dash, and Pinky Pie. I'm going to call you Pinky Pie. Pinky Pie, all the other ones I weren't as I was expecting to read, but Pinky Pie is kind of what I was expecting. They sound so nuanced. Of those, I sort of feel like... I just love the sophistication in the name Pinky Pie. I feel like of those...
Starting point is 00:23:57 As adults, we can enjoy that. You're definitely a pinky pie, Dave. I think Matt, you might be an Apple Jack. Yeah, I'm an... apple jack. I think I'm probably flutter shy or rainbow dash? What do you think? Flutter shy.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Flutter shy. And this woman won awards. You're a rainbow dash for sure. Rainbow Dash. She won the egot, mate. She won the egot for calling something Fluttershy. That is hands down the worst name for a little pony shit thing I could ever think of. You have gone really hard, really early and I love it.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I'm so sorry, but I think I thought that Riverdance was something I respected the least. I think we found a new one. Wow. And again, it's my topic. But at least I'm not passionate about this. Young girls to enjoy it. It's a TV show. I know, but we're talking about it on our podcast, but we usually talk about, like, cool stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Do we? Cool stuff? Last week was Jack the Ripper. That is interesting and sophisticated and nuanced. He is so cool. He is so cool. All right, so each of these friends represent a different facet of friendship.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And Twilight discovers herself to be a key part of the magical artifacts known as the elements of harmony. Don't ask me any questions. I don't know. All I'm picking up is nuance. The ponies travel on adventures. Can I kill myself? Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:10 The ponies travel on adventures and help others around equestria while working out problems that arise in their own friendships. Right? Now friendship is magic has not only proven a major success in its intended demographics or like kids. Very popular amongst children. Really? Kids got into it. Kids like something called flutter shy.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Not only kids like it. But it also has an unexpectedly, it's gained significant following in different demographics such as teens and adult males. What? The fandom adopted the name Brony or Bronys, which is a portmanteau of bro and pony. Very sophisticated and nuanced. Has Brony. Has Brony. Oh my God, Matt.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Very good. You know I love a portmanteau. And that is a three-part portmanteau. You got the port, you got the man, you got the toe. I reckon Hasbro is a poor mantel as well. It could be a quad. Oh, it's so good. Quadmanteau.
Starting point is 00:26:05 It's a quadmanteau. That's a poor manto. What of quad and manto? This is probably one of my favourite parts. So they were initially considered to propagate the humorous and ironic concept of people enjoying a show for young girls. The fandom has shown deeper appreciation of the show far beyond this and are considered part of a new sincerity trend. What the bloody hell is this? new sincerity, I hear you ask.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Oh, do you actually have the answer, thank God. Yes, I do. I don't know. I bloody tell you. I actually wrote down, what the bloody hell is new sincerity. I hear you ask. Is it like post-ironic? It's, yes.
Starting point is 00:26:42 It really is. So, it generally describes creative works that expand upon and break away from concept of post-modernism, irony and cynicism, representing a partial return to modernism. So basically, from my understanding, it means moving away from liking something ironically and actually just liking it. That's so good. So instead of being like, oh no, like, fuck, I love this.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah. Is it a weird sex thing? No, I thought it was. I've seen a bunch of, like, my little pony, like, sex things, and it makes me very uncomfortable. I'm sure it, I'm sure it may be. How'd you come across those, Dave? Yeah, Dave. Like, because there's bots on Twitter that follow you and stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:19 You had those follow you? No. No, Dave. I think those bots are normally, I think they follow one of them equation things. Yeah. You know the ones? Yeah, the algorithms. Algorithms.
Starting point is 00:27:29 and they hone in on people who are into that sort of issue, whether they know or not. Who've recently Googled My Little Pony Sex Toys. That's probably how they're having. Are you being a little fluttershire right now, Dave? Yeah. I am. I'm being a little pinky pie.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It's a bit new sincerity. Are you hating it ironically, but you secretly love it? I'm hating. Am I hate... I've got to think about that. Am I hating this ironically? Yeah, because you know it's like the cool thing to hate it. So you're hating it, but you love it.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Dave, is that the situation? Do you love it? I'm going to say Yes, with a butt. I don't know what that butt is, but we're going to find out. And does that butt have a cutie mark? Oh, yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:28:10 It's a whale shitting on a dolphin. It's always something shitting on a dolphin. You hate dolphins. Oh, they must be pooed on. They must be stopped with poo. What? What? Oh.
Starting point is 00:28:23 No, dolphins are all right, aren't? Yeah, I quite like it. They're nice. They're smart. Dolphins are much nicer than little pertinny toys. Can I ask? Are these, so there's not a weird sex thing element to this? I think there may be, but it's a very, very small group.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Are you thinking of fluffies? No, but see, like, no, furries. Furies. But I think there is, like, again, a tiny, tiny group of people that might incorporate part of my little pony. It's a tiny group of people who incorporate everything in the sex. Exactly. I thought Bronies was a sex thing, but it's not.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Bronies is a sex thing. It's not. It's not. It's not a sex thing. No, it's just a fandom of My Little Pony. Friendship is magic. They're fans of friendship, Dave. Don't shoot them down.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I'm going to shoot them down. I bet you are. I'm going to shoot them down. Right, so... The sex thing isn't my little bronies. They're actually... They're not bronies, they're bonies. There we go.
Starting point is 00:29:16 My little bony. Took way too long for you to get to that. Friendship is magic was my little bony. I was like, come on, buddy. We can do it. You did it. Made a bono joke. Yay.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I reckon I reckon. I'm on a dry spell for bono jokes. Your bono's on a dry spell? I'm bono dry, yeah. You bono dry? Joke, bono joke dry. Ah, that's all right then. So the technology savvy fans, all the bronies,
Starting point is 00:29:41 have created numerous works in writing, music, art and videos based on the show. Can you call it art? Yes. And they've established websites and fan conventions for the show. They've participated in charitable events around the show and those that create it? Like, they're super involved. There's conventions.
Starting point is 00:30:00 What are these charitable events? I don't know. Stop asking me questions. That's the only thing of worth I've heard. Do you know, is Cecil to go put this in? He's a brony? Might be. We should ask him.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Hey, Cecil, are you a brony? There you go, I asked him for you. Or a bony. Yeah, you're a bony or a bony? Or a pony. There's only two options. Or a loony. So the appreciation of the show by an older audience has,
Starting point is 00:30:28 came as a surprise to Hasbrook. Were they like, who are these weirdos? Maybe. That was a tweet from the My Little Pony page. Who are you weirdos? Stop watching this show for seven-year-old girls. We don't want your money. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:30:43 We feel weird sending you the costumes. Whatever. It's weird. And no one doesn't come in extra extra extra large, okay? Brendan. Stop tweeting, Brendan. Is this maybe kind of like when, you know, mobile phones were meant to be for business people, but the biggest audience, biggest market ended up being like teenagers and everyone basically.
Starting point is 00:31:05 They're like, stop buying them. Stop it. It's for the sophisticated seven-year-old girl. The nuance. The nuance. Seven-year-old child. It is funny when things have, like the internet was meant for the army, right? They didn't really see it being in.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Or even the computer wasn't meant to be. A lot of technology is designed for a niche market and it explodes. Maybe we're all going to be my little prone. Bronies one day. Maybe. No, I don't think that's quite... It's not technology. Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Maybe it is. I don't know. You're telling the bloody story. I am telling the story. Can I continue to tell the story? Please are gone. Thank you. So yeah, it came as quite a surprise to the creators of the show,
Starting point is 00:31:44 but they've embraced the older fans. They embraced it. They embraced it. They hugged them because they thought there's something come with you. They thought cash. But they stayed focused on the show's intended audience, which was obviously kids. So they didn't just start writing like plots with like adults. things going on.
Starting point is 00:31:59 That would have been weird. I mean, because the old guys got into it because of how it was already. So it'd be weird to change it for them. They didn't change anything for them, but that's part of why. And I'll explain it in a sec as well, but it's like that's why adults got into it is because it was kind of written for adults as well. It's like, you know, you watch, I went and saw Shrek with my parents when it came out and my dad loved it because there's jokes in there for adults too.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It's just like that. So that's sort of how this show's written and that's why it has that. Oh, so these people are taking their kids to watch my life. little pony. Is that how they got into it? Well, apparently, and I talk about it soon, but... Sorry, Jess, there's many concepts we've brought up on the show, but this is the one I'm struggling the most to understand. You are baffled.
Starting point is 00:32:41 You are flustered. Your brow has been furrowed for the last 20 minutes. He's really flustered, isn't it? I'm getting wrinkles from furrowing. I know, but... Stop furrowing and start fair... Ferrer... What's the horseshoe guys name?
Starting point is 00:32:58 Farrowing. Farrowing. Horseshoe. Farrow. Oh, are they called a farower? Yeah, so only puts horseshoes on horses. Do they don't make them? They put them on?
Starting point is 00:33:08 Or do they make them too? Oh, I don't know. Yeah, they must. They must make them. Yeah, they bang them out. Is there just like a standard size? Or do they have to like... They make them for the shoe.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah, I've seen a video at some point and they like they bang, they like put them in the hot thing. It's just like a straight pit of metal or whatever. They put nails in it? And then they bang it. And yeah, they can... Because, you know, the horse. Horse
Starting point is 00:33:29 Hoove is like one big toe. And all the other toes are sort of inside it, like these weird little toes. But it's just one big toe nail, basically. Okay. So they don't feel, then the hoof itself. It's not hurting them.
Starting point is 00:33:42 No, it's like it's whatever this sort of stuff is. Carrotin, maybe. Is that what that is? Is that hair? I probably wouldn't hurt if you put a nail through it. But if it was big. But if it was big and thick.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah, yeah. And it's like, it's not skin underneath it, like it is fast. Yeah, so I think they used to have like feet. And I just over it. evolved to have like just one big
Starting point is 00:34:00 I think that's what happened. Oh, how do we get on with that? Anyway. Not answer without question. That was farrowing. I mean harrowing. No, it wasn't at all. It was neither.
Starting point is 00:34:13 That was farrowing with Matt Stewart. What a good? This is your side podcast. Talk about the art of the horseshoe. But don't know anything about it. I think that would be the best. Similar to just me day to day. Similar to what we're doing with our podcast.
Starting point is 00:34:25 So yeah, so it was quite a surprise, but they obviously stayed focused on their. their child audience, which is their main audience. But they did sort of participate in the conventions that some that the fans put on, and they recognised the Brony Fandom in official promotional material. They incorporated background characters popularised by fans into like in jokes within the show. So that's where Derpy Hoves comes in. And I'll talk about that a little bit more later.
Starting point is 00:34:50 But it was kind of like a character that was nothing. And then because the fans reacted so strongly to it, now it's a character. Pretty interesting. I wonder. You know how we're talking about in past episodes how important marketing and naming things is? Do you reckon if there wasn't a word like bronies that it would have even happened? Feels like the kind of thing where people thought, this is funny. But you're saying it no one's getting into this thinking that's funny and ironic.
Starting point is 00:35:17 No, they're genuinely into it. I genuinely like this. They may start by like, oh, I mean, I guess I'll watch it, but they love it. Like, they actually love it. Like when I started saying Riggie Didge ironically, now I can't stop saying it. Yeah. But do you love Riggie Ditch? Ridgey Ditch, I do.
Starting point is 00:35:30 You love it. You say it all the time. Riggie, bloody, did you ditch? Okay. It's similar, yes, it's similar to that. Being a brony is similar to you saying Rijid Ditch. I'm starting to understand. I'm starting to understand as well.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Do you get it? Do you get it based on Matt saying Ritchie Dish? It's like when I rewatched Dawson's Creek. Uh-huh. How is that like that? I don't know. I'm still confused. I just thought I'd have a stab.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I thought I'd have a go. Hey, that's rigid didge to us. We love it when you have a go. I thought I had it. I thought I got it, Matt. But I don't got it. Is it like that time when I saw a repeat of a show? Are these people aware that other shows are on?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Oh, something's happened where the part of their brain is shut down where they know that there are other channels. Yeah, we're in the golden age of television. Are we really? That's what people say. The golden age. That's what people say. There won't be another age more golden. And this is because of mad men and that one with the guy, the Godfeller.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Goodfellas. Godfather. Supranos. The Goodfeller? The Goodfeller. You said Godfeller? You did. I don't know what he said.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Can I just do the report? And the one with the guy and the gun and the bald head and the goatee. Breaking Bad. Dead. Dead bed. Yeah. Dead bed. Dead bed.
Starting point is 00:36:54 We got dead bed. Good fella. Mad Men, remember that one. And my little pony. And also Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones. No. Thrones.
Starting point is 00:37:04 No, I did not say that. He said Thrones. But you know how Hollywood actors now are appearing in TV series? Right, they didn't used to do that. It's cool to be in TV again now. Like, it's cool to be into Bronies. Mm-hmm. Is it cool?
Starting point is 00:37:18 I think it's cool in that world. I still think, like, outside of that world, no, like, no, I reckon the majority of people, people are being surprised with every word Jess says today. I don't think anyone knows about this place. Brony Town. Population 1.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Well, it sounds like there's more than that. There's heaps. There's thousands. They have conventions. Anyway, so as a result of these... And we only have 100 Patreon subscribers. And these people get thousands. Well, maybe they'll listen to this, so maybe you should be a little more respectful. I love you all. Do bron.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Do brunon. Do brun on. As a result of the effort of the showmakers, you know, sort of responding to the wants and the popular things of the fans, My Little Pony Friendship is Magic has become a major commercial success with the series becoming the highest rated original production in the Hubs Network broadcast history. Great. How many people watch it? Billions. Billions. Is that true? Just billions? Billions. Billions of people watch. Am I uncool for not watching this?
Starting point is 00:38:28 100% you are, yes. No, you're underground. Yeah. You're that cool guy. He doesn't want to do what everyone else is doing. Yeah, exactly. I don't go against the mainstream. I don't watch Goodfeller.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I don't watch my little pony boy. Do you want to hear how the bronies kind of started? Yes. Oh, is there a godfather of bronies? No. Is it Tony Soprano? Yeah. Tony Sibrono.
Starting point is 00:38:51 That made more sense. I said Tony Sabrono. So it was Brony Sobrano Brony soprano The god of all I really shouldn't bag him out Because they take that guy pretty seriously Yeah
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah as I would I wouldn't exist for him So here's how it started Shortly after the initial broadcast In October 2010 A review was written on animation website Cartoon Brew By Amid Amidhi
Starting point is 00:39:19 Now Amidhi's essay Expressed concern That assigning a talent like Faust Lauren Faust to a toy-centric show was part of a trend towards a focus on profitable genres of animation, such as toy tie-ins to deal with a fragmented viewing audience. It's a bit wanky. And an overall admission of defeat for the entire TV movement.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Anyway, basically... Is this guy writing about a cartoon? Yeah, so basically what he's saying... I'm a six-year-old girls. Yes. What he's saying is that... Thank you. I've heard enough.
Starting point is 00:39:46 What he's saying is that he was concerned that the fact that more and more shows seem to be driven by company executives who want to sell their products. That was his point. Look at any kids show from the 80s, from the 90s. I agree. Stop yelling at me. Hey man. Power Rangers.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Voltron. Ninja turtles. Captain Planet. Transformers. It's just about selling transformers. They're robots in disguise, Dave. It's more than... Bumblebees.
Starting point is 00:40:14 It's not just toys. That was the golden age. Before they started selling out and just wanting to sell toys. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't sell a single Power Ranger in the 90s. And that's the way they liked it. Yeah, that's what they wanted.
Starting point is 00:40:27 They wanted to make no money for a net. You couldn't make money. It was a non-for-profit. Non-for-profit organisation. Now these bloody Hasbro have come along and they're like, oh, let's make a lot of money. How about we market this to 36-year-old men? Does that what happened?
Starting point is 00:40:40 Yes, Dave. That is what happened. Well, I don't need to hear any more then. Okay, well, we're done. You've made your decision? My decision. What is the verdict? There's no question posed.
Starting point is 00:40:52 The decision is that Power Rangers should come back. Wow. There's a movie coming out, isn't it? Are you going to play one of the Power Rangers? I'm going to play Tommy, my favourite Green Ranger. Your favourite Green Ranger? How many Green Ranger? Because there was multiple ones.
Starting point is 00:41:04 There's one Green Ranger. Okay. I meant to say my favourite Ranger who was green. I love you, Tommy. Tommy Green Ranger. Is his name Green Ranger? That's convenient, isn't it? Does he have a cutie mark on his flank?
Starting point is 00:41:16 Yeah, it's a green stamp. Cool. The green whale shitting on the dolphin. The dolphin is not green. He doesn't. shit on anything that's green. Yeah, oh, of course not. God, no, never disrespect.
Starting point is 00:41:28 It's very eco-friendly. He's very nuanced. He's very subtle, even though his name is Green Ranger. Anyway, so Amid Amidhi's written this essay, criticising... That's the best thing about the guy. Criticising the show.
Starting point is 00:41:47 And though the show had been discussed on 4chan's cartoon forum before the essay's publication, the alarmist nature of the essay led to more interest in the show, resulting in a positive response for the series for its plot, characters and animation style. So he bagged out the series. And it made it more popular. But the weird thing is he's bagging it out because it's got such a talented writer.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Yeah, he's like, well, I guess, yeah. She's too good for this. She should be on the godfeller. You bring on somebody like this, and it's just so that you can sell toys. It's like, no, it's to make a good show and sell toys. But yeah, that's the point. Everything is selling something. Every TV show is made to sell, you know, like their TV shows are on commercial TV.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Basically, all of them are made to be watched. Yeah. And sell a product. Is it possible that Amid Amiti works for Hasbro and knew that if you posted about it, would make the show more popular? I mean, that's just a brony conspiracy theory that you've got there, Dave. I think you're probably a little more invested than you are caring to admit. I can brunis.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Admit, admit, I will not admit he, that I am. him a mid-a-mitty. He's doing it. Anyway, so yeah, it made it more popular. Now, the adult interest in the show is comparable to that of other shows like Tiny Tune Adventures, Rocko's Modern Life, Animaniacs, Dexter's Laboratory, Powerpuff Girls, Spongebob. I watched those shows when I was eight. Yeah, I know, but there's shows that you can still watch, and you weren't eight.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Like, I remember watching SpongeBob when I was, like, coming home from high school. It was on TV when I'd get home from school. You know, you're like, no, whatever. it's just a good show. Because older audiences appreciated jokes that were aimed at adult viewers and a sense of nostalgia for older cartoons and animated films. So it's like there's this cartoon that has adult jokes that I understand that are funny and it reminds you of being a kid watching cartoons.
Starting point is 00:43:39 So people enjoy it. Dave, I recently watched the first season of the new Voltron. Well, they redid Voltron. Yeah. And is that... Do you hate me? Did you enjoy it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:55 That sounds like nostalgia. So what's this thing? For sure that you watched in the 80s. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe it was. I don't remember watching it. I just remember the toy. I always wanted to buy it.
Starting point is 00:44:07 But I was a child. Didn't have any money. Yeah. And neither did my parents. No pocket money for you. Didn't do your chores. That's a big job. Anyway, so the other thing is that the show referenced works
Starting point is 00:44:18 that older viewers would recognize, such as I Love Lucy, the Benny Hill show, Big Lobowski, Avengers, Star Wars. My Little Pony referenced the Big Lobowski. Yeah, it makes references to things. There's something set in like a bowling alley, so they made a Big Lobowski joke. So they have like all these references that adults get,
Starting point is 00:44:34 so they're like, yeah, I'm in on it. This is so interesting. How about you just watch the Big Lobowski? That's got heaps of Big Lobowski references. It's almost exclusively Big Lobowski reference. It's amazing. Dr Patrick Edwards, who performed several Brony studies, Okay, now I thought some, the brony people were sad,
Starting point is 00:44:54 that this guy is wasting his life. He did these studies to survey, to survey, to survey. He's surveying them. He did these studies to... He locked them in a chamber. He did these studies to survey and analyze the fandom, and he observed that the brony fandom is unlike most other fandoms, which aren't welcoming to people who are different
Starting point is 00:45:16 and promote the show's message of love and tolerance. So they're a really welcoming, really friendly, nice group. You're going to feel like such an ass when I talk about bronies because it actually really lovely. They sound amazing, Dave. Grow up. They're super nice. Grow up and become a brony like all real men do. This is super interesting as well.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Can girls be bronies? Absolutely, they can. There's a different name for them as well, and it's super funny. Okay, so brony is a portmanteau of bro and pony, but it can be used for either. But another gender. Either gender. Either gender. Or a pony who's a bro.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Pony, be right. Another term is Pega sister. Oh. The older female thing. Pegas sister sounds weird. No, it's fine. Like, because they're Pegasus ponies. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Sounds like you'd want someone to peg your sister. Pegger sister over here. Like up on the washing line. Or peg also means throw something out. Oh, yeah. Does it? Peg. Peg it at me.
Starting point is 00:46:17 No, I don't think that's. I reckon. I can have the English language. Anyway, one contributor to the... Dave, can you peg me that pen? That's not a thing. I only do that to my sister. It's weird because you do have a sister.
Starting point is 00:46:31 You both have sisters. One contributor to the Brony study, Dr. Marsha Redden, said that the adult fans are, this is a quote, a reaction to the US having been engrossed in terrorism for the past 10 years. What?
Starting point is 00:46:47 Yes, Dave. Bronies are fixing terrorism. In a manner of sense. Similar to the Cold War, they're tired of being afraid, tired of angst and animosity, and the show and its fandom are outlets for those strifes. She compared the Brody fandom to that of the Bohemian and Beatniks after World War II. Yes, they're Beetniks after the Fiena. They're the hippies, Dave.
Starting point is 00:47:07 But they wrote literature. They don't just draw a picture of a pony. What's the difference? You show me how that's different. Draw me a picture. Draw me a picture of a pony. So let me just say. So what's you saying is terrorism caused bronies?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yes. Yes. You have some of them ladded to think for bronies existing. Well? I think more accurately you could say that bronies fixed terrorism. Well, I think terrorism still exists. No, no. No, I fixed it.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Oh, pardon me. Sorry, my mistake. I haven't checked the news in a while. In a similar... Don't you remember that famous photo of a brony putting its hoove down a guy's bazooker? Don't you remember that? I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:47:55 It was on the cover of Time magazine. Time Person of the Year was Pinkety Pops. One of the writers, Amy Keating Rogers, said in a similar sort of tone that she believes the fans have come to like Friendship's Magic due to so much cynicism and negativity out there in so many other shows, while this show has such a positive message. You know, people just want to be having to be happy. happy.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I love happy. This is also great. You hate it, Dave. You hate happy. You hate anything that causes happiness. That's not true. It is. Well, do you like bronies?
Starting point is 00:48:32 My little pronies? Do you, Dave? Which is the only thing that is able to give happiness in this modern world, apparently? David? Don't put me on the spot. Dave, you either love bronies or you hate happiness. What is it? What will it be?
Starting point is 00:48:51 I just need more time I need more of Jess's report I'll come back to you at the end of the show with my opinion and whether or not I love happiness if you haven't been turned yet I love I love happiness
Starting point is 00:49:02 And the Bronies invented it You're part of a cult Matt That is you Jess has already been one of doing this report You've already sucked in I am staying strong And I am being Neutral Yeah you're being our neutral
Starting point is 00:49:15 Join us Brony Join us Join us Touch the hoof of destiny This is, this I found very interesting. So two informal surveys of 23009,000 participants respectively revealed that the average age of the adult fan, how old do we think they are? Of the adult fan, 18, or adult.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Adults. So young, they'd be the youngest, I reckon 18, 19. Yeah. Six. You say six of the adult fans. Oh, wait, no, that doesn't make sense. If it's the average age of the adult fans, it can't be the lowest possible. It has to be in the, are you taking all the children?
Starting point is 00:49:50 No. Kids, adult fans. All right. 24. 31. 21. So they're all very young. Approximately 86% a male.
Starting point is 00:50:01 63% were currently pursuing a college degree or higher qualification. A later study in 2013 of over 21,000 respondents showed similar numbers and highlighted that the majority of fans were in the 15 to 30 age range. 15 to 30 age range. So I wasn't listening. repeat it back to understand the words. 15 to 30 age range. 15 to 30 age range. That means they're between the ages of 15 and 30.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Okay. That's the range of age. Okay, I think I've got this. It's like when I watched Dawson's Creek again. Oh boy. That was my life. Anyway, the average age is 19 and 20. So the average age of the adults.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Of the adults. 15 to 30. That's how the whole fucking sentence started with the adult age, the adult fans. Like, because imagine if you made a show for kids and then the average, age was 15 to 30. What are we doing? What are we done wrong? And then like, bloody good fellows over here is being watched by four-year-old children.
Starting point is 00:50:58 It's really backfired. The golden age of television is weird. It's very topsy-turvy. This is kind of interesting. So further, using the Myers-Briggs type indicator, personality test, the survey revealed that the largest fraction of respondents, approximately 27%, fell into the I-N-T-J classification. I know what you're thinking, and yes, I've got the information.
Starting point is 00:51:19 So you know of the personality. tests, where you answer a series of questions and it sorts you into like one of, I think, 16 groups. No, I do not know that. Okay, it's a Lysburg's a personality test. Yeah, I started to do it and it takes a while because there's a lot of questions and it was very late at night and I was doing this research and I was like, I should probably just do the research.
Starting point is 00:51:35 How long do you reckon it would take over an hour? No, like 15 minutes. Oh, we should all do it. Yeah, we can do it. I wonder if we'd be similar. I've done it before, too, and I can't remember what I am. What kind of questions? Are they just a couple?
Starting point is 00:51:46 Sort of like, um... Do you play with children's toys? Yes. No, it's more like agree and disagree and then strongly agree. So it'd be like, you know, other people's feelings are more important than this. Right, so is one of the categories, bastard? Yes, you're a bastard. They're all like four-letter categories, right?
Starting point is 00:52:07 So you're either one of two things. So you're an I or a, what's I-S-N-T-J? So these ones, I-N-T-J is introversion, intuition, thinking and judgment. It's abbreviation used for this particular person. personality type. And this is about... It's a psychological test. Of the ponies.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yes. So the INTJ represents the mastermind. They're one of the rarest of the 16 psychological types and account for approximately 2 to 4% of the population. But a huge number of the bronies fall into this category. Right. So if you're making a TV, if you're making a TV show, you don't want to target them, you want to target a bigger portion.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Well, yeah, quite probably. Because you want more people watching. But for some reason, a large number of these people have. sort of are drawn to this show. Now, women of this personality type are especially rare, forming about 0.8% of the population. They're strong individualists who seek new angles or novel ways of looking at things. They enjoy coming to new understandings. They tend to be very insightful and very mentally quick.
Starting point is 00:53:09 But it may not always be outwardly apparent to others since they keep a great deal to themselves. They're kind of more introverted. They're very determined people. They trust their visions of the possibilities, regardless of what others think. They may be considered the most independent of all the 16 personality types. Yeah. So I just found that kind of interesting that they, like there's a high percentage of these people in the brony fandom. That is fascinating.
Starting point is 00:53:32 It's only 2 to 4% of all the population. But 27% of this group. More than a quarter are them. That's pretty cool. Are they some sort of geniuses? No, they're not necessarily geniuses. They're smart. This brings me to the character of Derpy, which was Cecil's initial suggestion.
Starting point is 00:53:49 So the production team have acknowledged that some of the fandom and fan created elements of the show they've acknowledged them and they incorporate them into the animation sort of like as a bit of a wink-wink nod to their fans which is kind of cool. Hasbro's priority is obviously just to deliver a show to the kids first but if they can sneak in a little nod to the adults then they're happy to do it which I think is kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:54:13 And one of the president and chief executive of the Hub Network said that they have kept their nods, to the fandom to subtle hints. She said, we haven't driven this movement. The fans have, and we don't want to get ahead of that. We want to nourish this phenomenon and not manipulate it. So instead of trying to make things that they think the fandom will like, they'll just sort of let it happen organically,
Starting point is 00:54:33 and then they'll make little nods to that. Does that sort of make sense? Yeah, yeah. They're not like being like, well, let's change the plot because, you know, now we have, you know, a 25-year-old watching or keep it for six-year-olds. They just keep it the same. And if something catches the eye of the brony fans, so then they'll go with it.
Starting point is 00:54:50 So the best example of this is in the first episode, a background Pegasus Pony is shown in one scene with a cross-eyed stare, which was actually just a little joke by one of the animators. He'd drawn her a little bit cross-eyed. The 4-chan... It's a funny joke. It's a funny joke.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Animator humour. The highest of all humours. Too high-barred for me. Quite quickly, like, 4-chan message boards dubbed the character Derpy Hooves based on the internet slang word derp. You know? I've never heard that before.
Starting point is 00:55:18 You've heard of derp? Durp. Dirk. It's not a lot of memes. It's basically just like... See, I don't really do memes. Of course, you're 100 years old. It's like you've done something silly.
Starting point is 00:55:27 A bit silly. Durp. Durp. Sorry. Oh, derp. So... You're such a normie, Dave. I don't really do animator humor, which I assume is similar to these show called memes.
Starting point is 00:55:40 The fans sort of created a more detailed personality for this character. They named her derpy hooves. She was like on the screen for seconds, but they just all suddenly they just all suddenly just loved her. And apparently, like, the production team sort of responded to this, and they kept the Derpy character with the cross-eyed look. And she sort of became a mascot of the fandom. According to the supervising director, Jason Theson, the team sort of considered the character
Starting point is 00:56:08 like a little Easter egg for people to catch. Like, they'd kind of almost hide her in... Oh, there she is. Backgrounds of episodes, yeah, exactly. Hey, guys, you see Derpy? Yeah. Yeah, I did. She's in that mountain in the background.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I don't feel lonely anymore. At the end of the first season, one of the shows animators confirmed that Derpy would be a scripted background character in the second season, so she's going to be coming... So she's like a recurring extra. Exactly, basically. Does she have lines? She gets them.
Starting point is 00:56:35 So in the original broadcast, about mid-season of the season two, the show was called The Last Roundup. Derpy was called out by name by Rainbow Dash, and given lines and klutzy mannerisms as a direct call out to the Brony fan. So, like, they've named her derps, so they've made her a little bit derpy. Like, she's clutzy and she's whoops, right? But she's whoops. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Do they call her whoopsie hooves? That's a much cooler name, by the way. Whoopsy hooves is cute. Though most of the fans appreciated the inclusion of this character. Some viewers had a negative response to the character, believing it insulted the mentally handicapped. It's because, like, they were calling it, she was a little bit klutzy, and the voice that they'd given her was not great,
Starting point is 00:57:16 if that's sort of what you were picking up on it. So it wasn't good. And so Hasbro subsequently modified the scenes. And while Derpy is still present in the broadcast and in the show, she's not named and a different voice is used like in later episodes. So they don't officially call her Derpy. She has other names like Ditsy or Ditsy Do and muffins. Three different names.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Why don't you have three names? I don't know. And can you, so you can't like buy a toy of her or something? She's not that popular. You can, but it wouldn't be called Derpy. I don't think so. It would be called whoopsie. No.
Starting point is 00:57:49 It'd be called ditsy do or whoopsie. Whoopsie daisy. But so they do... Wopsy muffin. I think it's one of those things where they do call her derpy, but like Hasbro's kind of like, no, we didn't name her that. I don't know. It seems like it was a little bit of a mess. So, but there's been other non-speaking background characters that have caught the attention of the fandom and have also had expanded roles because of it.
Starting point is 00:58:10 One of them had a really big boner. It got attention. It did. Yeah. Boner boy hooves. Not a good attention. There's a female unicorn pony character who has neon colors, wears sunglasses and has a DJ mixer that briefly appeared in one episode. She sounds like me if I was in pony form.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah, totally. And the fans named her... Wiki Wiki, wow. The fans named her DJ Pone 3, like pony, but with a three. And then the fans of the show nicknamed a male character with a brown coat, messy brown mane, an hourglass. cutie mark he had an hourglass on his butt they named him Dr. Hooves
Starting point is 00:58:49 because he looked like Doctor Who How did he look like Doctor Who with an hourglass? Because he was wearing a brown coat and he had messy brown hair and he looked like David Tennant And but he was a pony He's a pony That look like David Tennant
Starting point is 00:59:04 Whose side are you on? I'm not sure anyone You were being good cop Yeah man We've really swapped roles here Because I am so on board with this I would really like I love Dr Hoves
Starting point is 00:59:13 I live for him I would really... Dr. Hooves sounds cool. I would really like a tattoo of Dr. Hooves shitting on a dolphin. All of your tattoos have something shitting on a dolphin. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Fucking dolphins. I'd like to finish with some fun facts, if I may. Yes, please. We haven't had fun. I thought you'd be more excited. We haven't had fun facts in ages. Please. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:59:33 You excited? I'm so excited. Okay. So, on December 26th in 2011, an article appeared in the New York Times. It was called Navigating Love and Autism It was by a journalist called Amy Harmon and described how a young woman with Asperger Syndrome
Starting point is 00:59:49 used my little pony characters to relieve stress. So she visualised the character Twilight Sparkle whenever she found herself in a bad mood. So the story was sort of about that. But the fun fact is that the story misidentified Twilight Sparkle as Fluttershye on initial publication and the paper issued a correction, which some journalists have jokingly considered
Starting point is 01:00:09 the best New York Times correction ever. They're like, we sincerely apologise. that we misidentified the role. See, that was going to be a beautiful story, and then behind the scenes is that people emailed or tweeted the paper saying they had the wrong character. You said Fluttershow, would I think you mean Twilight Sparkle? That's just ruined a good story. It's pretty funny, though.
Starting point is 01:00:30 There's a couple of famous fans, by the way. Cesar. Is it David Tennant? Cecil, obviously. Ricky Javis. He's definitely into kids' stuff. There's a Broadway actress and singer, Lena Hall, and she stated that she watched the show as it makes her feel super happy
Starting point is 01:00:48 and appreciates the lessons the show teaches. She considers herself a Pegasister. She won the 2014 Tony Award for Best Actress in a Musical, and she ended her acceptance speech mentioning the show's subtitle, Friendship is Magic. And over four months after her shout-out-out-the-tonies, she announced on her Twitter that she would be a guest star on the show's fifth season. Wait, this show's being made now. I'm still going.
Starting point is 01:01:14 What? Dreams come true, you guys. Where would you see it? I don't know. The internet. Oh. My favourite, though. My favourite celebrity fan.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Oprah. Better. Better. Someone who've heard of? Yes. Obama. I haven't heard of that last. She did sound great, though.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Yeah. Big, so it's a really big one that you like. Australian? No, not necessarily. It's just funny. Is it Obama? Stop guessing. Can I just tell you?
Starting point is 01:01:38 Matt, Matt have one guess. That'd be fair. Give me a country. America. Give me a. gender male give me
Starting point is 01:01:45 an age group oh good question 50s give me first name Billy give me the second name
Starting point is 01:01:55 initial B BT no who is it Billy Bob Thornton Billy Bob Billy Bob
Starting point is 01:02:06 admitted to watching the show during an interview you said it was a celebrity with GQ he and his daughter Bella used to watch My Little Pony, which she eventually grew out of. And when she was searching for a series to watch again,
Starting point is 01:02:17 they came across friendship as magic and they started watching it together. He also liked the show's positive message about how the world works. And he also claimed that while his daughter's favorite character is Twilight Sparkle, his favorites were Flutter Shy, who he said was his favorite because she talks like Marilyn Monroe. And Rainbow Dash. He's a Rainbow Dash fan, but his daughter really likes Twilight Sparkle. I like that. It feels like he's not a brony.
Starting point is 01:02:44 He's the dad of a fan of the show. But he is also a fan of the show. Don't shit all over it. Can I ask you? No, sorry, I'm not saying that against you. I'm saying that's a different thing to a 22-year-old who's got no... Famous bronies. I said famous fan's of the show.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Right. Okay, so you wouldn't say he's a brony. I wouldn't say he's a bony-bob brony. He's not a Billy Bob Brony. He's not a Billy Bob Thornton. Having looked at the characters, do you know who your favourite is yours? I have not looked at them properly. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Let's say Rainbow Dash. I reckon Twilight Sparkle might be like... like the big one. She might be like the big famous one. Yeah. Yeah, Twilight Sparkle's the main character. I reckon I've heard of Twilight Sparkle. You?
Starting point is 01:03:20 Probably Fluttershye or Pinky Pie, right? Pinky Pie, I couldn't remember the name. Obviously. I'm Apple Jack. Apple Jack. Well, Jess, thank you very much for that topic. Thank you, Cecil, for suggesting it. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Hey, thanks Jess for doing it. I found, yeah, I've always, because I've heard of Bronys, someone told me about them last year. Yeah. We were in a show that talked about it. Were you in that scene? What show? Oh.
Starting point is 01:03:46 No, I wasn't in that scene. But I'm assuming you're talking about the show that we were both in. The Dave was also in? That Dave was also in, yeah. Under the Milky Way? Under the Milky Way, yeah. Did that have a brony reference? That's a television show we're all in.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yeah, there was a Sam Peterson. Oh, yes. He was a brony in the show. I might have been in that episode. A brownie? Yeah. God, love Sam. One of my favorite people on the planet.
Starting point is 01:04:08 We were all in that show. Never shared a scene, though. Never shared a scene. Oh, Matt and I did. Yeah, we did. I never shared a scene with those. Oh, we shared a couple, actually. Have you seen it?
Starting point is 01:04:17 Yeah. How'd we go? Yeah, great. I asked to not share a scene with you. Oh, that's interesting. Because you, both of you were... You're probably one of my favorite characters of that, actually. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:04:26 It's so funny. Both of you were famously seen Steelers, and I would not have that in my watch. No, I did share scenes with Matt, and he destroyed them, as in a good way. He stole it. That's one, Maddie. Stollet. I stole it. Well, I don't think Dave was joking.
Starting point is 01:04:40 We definitely are scenes stills. Well, I'm saying... Characters very funny. I'm saying you stole it. Stop. Let's just stop. Let's just...
Starting point is 01:04:46 Let's just... It just thanks. Yeah, my arms are getting tired. So it's called Under the Milky Way. Maybe we'll share some scenes from it. That'd be cool. Sure. Yeah, that'd be nice.
Starting point is 01:04:55 We'll tweet out some action. It's one bit where I yell budgie smugglers out of context. Look forward to that. That is sizzle. But I will be honest and say that I thought the bronies... I thought the bronies was a sex thing. Yeah, and I'm sure... I really thought it was as well.
Starting point is 01:05:10 So maybe that's why I was a little bit negative. I'm sure. In some cases it probably is, but I don't think it's not always. It does. It sounds like it's a really positive. Yeah, like, they sound quite nice. You just, that feels like you gave that the puff piece. Puss piece.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Puff piece treatment. Yeah, why? Were you a bit gentle on Cecil's? Because it's a big, I think it's a big Cecil thing. I think he's quite into it. I think he might be a brony man himself. Just fine. I'm not saying it's not fine, Jess.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Just saying, did you go soft on, Bronies. No, not at all. I genuinely was researching and I was like, these people sound kind of cool. I'm not going to shit all over people who are doing things that aren't hurting anybody and are making them happy. Fuck, what a monster.
Starting point is 01:05:52 That's my job. Yeah. All right. I'll accept your apology. Well, before we wrap up the show, we have to say a big thank you to all our Patreon supporters who brought the show this week, as they often do. Keep it running.
Starting point is 01:06:07 And if you want to get involved, it's patreon.com. slash do go on pod. You can get extra rewards, including an extra episode. You can vote for Matt's topic. You can go into the golden hat like Cecil did, and we can report on your topic. And of course, we give you a shout out at the end of the show as to say thank you. And we're going to say thank you to one person each now. I would like to say a big thank you.
Starting point is 01:06:28 To a person, a long-time supporter. He does that every time. It's so good. He's been a long-time listener. I couldn't wait for him to do it. He loves the long episodes. Oh, boy. And he loves me, the Longman, Warnocky.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yuck! I'd like to say thank you to Stephen Long. That was a real stretch. You see what he's doing there? I'm just looking at his name because it's like a small L long. Maybe it's Stephen I. I think it's probably long.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Could be Stephen Yong. Well, if it's Stephen Eong, go on making silly jokes again. You've done. He's been an Iong listener, an Iong supporter. And loves the Yong man Warniki. Young man, interesting. It's Stephen Eong. Oh, very good.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Thank you, Stephen Eong. I'd also like to thank a friend of ours who kind of, he auditioned for a role as a Batman villain. Really? Yeah. That's true. Wow, this is interesting. He did, but they went for somebody with a slightly different. different name because you actually have to, like when you're a Batman villain, it's your real
Starting point is 01:07:42 name, right? So you have to have a Batman villain type name. Right. So I would really like to think, even though he failed at that one job he went for, I'd really like to thank Robert Riddell, like the riddler. Oh, the riddle, man. It's so good when you have to explain a joke. Robert Riddell.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I'm trying to be cool like Dave, but I can't do it. I should just say thanks to people. Robert Radell sounds like he could win an Academy Award. Big time. The Academy Award gives to... Robert Redell for the My Little Pony movie. Has there been one?
Starting point is 01:08:14 They've swept the awards ceremonies again. Oh, funnily, I was actually, I was away on holidays recently. You know, over New Year's when I had the bug in me here? Yes. The place I stayed at, it was like an Airbnb, so someone's place with the DVD collection. In that DVD collection,
Starting point is 01:08:31 My Little, no, it wasn't a DVD, it was a board game. It was like, it was the, you know, trouble, that pop-a-matic game. Yeah. It was the My Little Pony version. Wow. That was a fun story.
Starting point is 01:08:44 I enjoyed that. I also used to play the game Trouble in primary school. So suck it. Fuckhead. That's right. Just two out of three of us enjoyed that story. Assuming Matt enjoyed this. No, that was bloody out.
Starting point is 01:08:57 That was tedious. One third of the show enjoyed that, Matt. Hey, thank you. But it was the good third. The third that matters the most. No one cares. Hey, you know who I'd like to think? Really great.
Starting point is 01:09:09 uh person and also human being but on top of that good friend sure and human great but also a person oh my god his name it's hard to tell because of obviously that capital l small l capital i thing oh no um but i'm going to have a stab and say thank you so much lan astelosh Lamb. Nah, Ian Ashelosh is, he's been, he's been, what a bloody legend. Thanks so much, Ian. He's always on us on the internet.
Starting point is 01:09:49 And I think we might have done one of his topics. Yeah, it rings a bell. Because he's a fucking legend. As always, though, you can get in contact with us on Facebook, Twitter's Instagram, at do go on pod on all of those, at do-go-onpod at gmail.com how else? That's probably it.
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