Do Go On - 68 - Shackleton's Endurance

Episode Date: February 8, 2017

In 1914, explorer Ernest Shackleton and 28 men left England for his third trip to Antarctica. Sadly, they will never even make it to the continent. With their ship The Endurance crushed by the ice and... with no hope of rescue, how the hell will they ever make it home? Dave tries to do this epic story justice with the longest report yet. There's something for everyone: Shaquille O'Neal, eggs and slugs. Twitter/Instagram/Facebook us: @DoGoOnPodEmail: dogoonpod@gmail.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.
Starting point is 00:00:20 If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to do go on your favourite podcast show with me, Matt Stewart, him, Dave Warnocky, and her. Sorry, what was... No, I've been friends for like two years. Longer, I think.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Sorry, of course, it's Jessica Perkins. That is my name. Favorite podcast, that's nice. Thanks, everyone. It's really nice to all the people listening right now who believe this is their family. We're number one. We're number one. one.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Don't start singing the number one banana song again. That was, that was no good. Number one banana. A lot of people said it got in their head. A number one banana. I don't have the muff on my mic like normal, so sorry if any of my P's are like that. Oh, that's what the muff does. Yeah, the muff really cuts.
Starting point is 00:01:34 P. P for phlegm. Oh, that's really loud in your ears. I'm not going to do any P sounds after this P. You'll have to think about every single word you say. Yeah. P's all right. You can avoid P.
Starting point is 00:01:44 I won't talk about My Little Pony, for instance. Oh, fuck, I just did it. My little only. I watched it last week. You know how we did the episode last week, just did a topic on My Little Pony. Yeah. I don't recall. It really divided our listenership.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Turns out we've got quite a few fans of the franchise. Yeah. And also a lot of people who are more like what we were talking about, how like, oh, surprising. This is a big thing. Yeah. But yeah, it was interesting. And a couple of listeners messaged me said, just watch it. I think you could like it.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I don't know what they're basing that on, but I watched the first episode of the Friendship Club or whatever. Friendship is Magic. Friendship is Magic. The Friendship Club. And it ended with a cliffhanger. So I don't know. And it was, you know, it was a bit dark. Oh.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Oh, my goodness. Yeah, the darkness came to Ponyville. But it was, you know, it was just like, it was like all those cartoons, you know, like there's this cartoon that I watched. I got home as the sun was coming up at a Bucks party, right? And me and my friend were still. This is how all great stories start. We were, you know, off chops, basically. And we were, we flicked on the TV, and it was just the end of an old AFL grand final replay.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Great. And the very next show, like Saturday Disney was coming on, or whatever morning it was. And this show, Phineas and Ferb, and we were transfixed. There's like this sort of secret agent platypus in it. What? And then these two brothers or cousins, one's a bit dumb, and the other one's a genius. Or maybe they're both geniuses, but one seems dumb. And then they just build all these cool things.
Starting point is 00:03:15 It was kind of like that. Cool. Only with ponies. But you were drunk with Vinny's and Firm. Yeah. But that platypus, Perry, I think his name was. So good. Perry from my little pony.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I've got the thing on. I can say it all day long. I shouldn't because that is, that's poor sound quality. Oh, that's not good sound quality. There we go. But anyway, yeah, the show, like, it was pretty good. They were flying. So they're unicorns.
Starting point is 00:03:39 They got horns on their heads. Yeah, some of them flies. They're not all unicorns, are they? And they're all females, apart from two who are, like, male horse slaves, and they fly Princess Sparkle... In some sort of sex... ...across to another... ...sex train. Dave, Dave.
Starting point is 00:03:56 It's not... We didn't we... I think just made it very clear there's no... And you have upset enough people. You really have. Do you want to keep digging? You really annoy. Well, it just sounds like that though a couple of ponies have been put out to stud against their will.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Look, I don't know, I don't know even if that's true. But it did seem a bit. I don't even think they're all female. I think they're... Okay. Just in the first episode, maybe. Or they have... Because there was like an old lady and a really old lady, Granny Smith.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Oh yeah. Oh, good name. Which is an Australian invented apple. Invented? Yeah. We invented the... Uh-huh. That is actually true.
Starting point is 00:04:30 It was... But how do you invent... You cross-pollinate. They accidentally cross-pollinated with... They didn't invent it, though. Did that? It's a wrong word for an apple. Semantics.
Starting point is 00:04:39 We also invented that word. Yeah. I'm pretty happy with that. We did not. We did not invent the words of the end. Of course, and as we all know, Dave is anti-semantic. That's right. I'm very against semantics.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I was pretty happy about that. I know. I could tell by the fist pumping. It was like the happiest I've ever seen you. Anyway, I don't know. Yeah. But anyway. I've seen you at Meredith.
Starting point is 00:05:01 So, yeah, anyway, my little pony. Yeah, Meredith. I think of that place. I, um. The music festival, not just someone called Meredith. I've seen you at Meredith. I give my little pony friendship town two hooves up.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Two hooves up. Out of five? No, I don't know. Two hooves up out of five hoos up? That's a pretty ambiguous system of use. Well, yeah. Well, actually, it would be out of four because most horses have four hooves. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:25 So it's a two and a half star. I mean, relatively that's probably about, right? Because I don't think I'm going to watch anymore. Even the cliffhanger couldn't keep you sucked in? You've always got to give it three episodes of any TV show, you've got to give it three. I agree. Even the Godfeller? The Godfeller.
Starting point is 00:05:40 A little bully. A little bully He's out of the den Bed dead Was it bed dead I can't remember Yeah dead bed Instead of breaking bed
Starting point is 00:05:48 It's close Anyway But no I get it Like when we talked about Riverdance Which is something that's very You know Close to my heart And you hear people mocking it
Starting point is 00:05:56 And you You know You get kind of You get sad You get sad Yeah That's true Because it's like
Starting point is 00:06:03 When you love something Is there anything That we could I've never done it But when you do I've heard Yeah I was gonna
Starting point is 00:06:09 I was gonna ask you Matt, is there anything that you love that we could take down? Thank you to Football Club. Oh, wow. What if we just pulled those apart? Or Meredith Music Festival. Just shredded them. Well, that's lame.
Starting point is 00:06:21 All of those are indestructible. That's the thing. I think when you get to Matt's age, right? Oh, he's a wise old man. He's more wisdom. You're more confident. Most people, you've like come to accustomed with death because nearly everyone that was born in your year is now dead.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah, that's right. All my time now is spent at funerals. It changes. The funeral's changing. I'm morning, morning, noon and night. That's a great little phrase. Yeah, anyway, it's almost like we've had a pony cliffhanger
Starting point is 00:06:52 and we're up to episode two, but we're actually doing a different topic today, Dave. That is right. I am digging into the hat, digging into the Facebook hat, which we don't often do, so I thought we'd keep it even because we get a lot of suggestions on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:07:06 We get a lot of suggestions on email. Probably mostly Twitter, would you agree? Twitter's probably the most. And then when people want to suggest a few things, they go use an email, you get more characters. Sure. Sometimes people, you know, and we put them all in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:07:18 We chuck in ten suggestions at the same time. But that... I reckon that the people messaging in are more characters on email as well. We also did get some hand delivered. You forget to mention that. Yeah, that's true. We've had a hand delivered one. One? Two. One. Two, two. One.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Two, you get one as well. They were two on the same. We are open at... I'd just like to say that we're open at all times And you can hand us pieces of paper anywhere It's like being served bill We're open at all times You've been served
Starting point is 00:07:45 I am not open at all times I'm standing spread-legged right now Is that that's not relevant at all My front door My front door is open Okay what's your address Two Two
Starting point is 00:07:58 Cherry Pop Lane Wisconsin Two Two Two Two I'm still talking It's 2-22
Starting point is 00:08:07 Second Street 2ville. What's your postcode? Double 2. Population. Another 2. And another 2.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Could have said good triple 2, but I don't say that. No, you don't. That's some sort of 4. I would have said double 2, double 2. Yeah, I would have as well. 2, 2, 2. You idiot.
Starting point is 00:08:27 222. That's cute. That is. That is it. So you can drop off a... Or if you want to come to our live Melbourne International Comedy Festival show, which is on sale,
Starting point is 00:08:38 We're an international comedy festival show is on sale now. And we're selling some tickets, guys. Yeah, tickets are moving. Which is cool. But at those events, let's encourage people to hand us things for the hat. That'd be cool. Suggestions, not just like their children. No, I'd like some fan art.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Oh, fan art, for sure. It's also like vouchers for sanity. Sanity, yes. Brashes. A CD shop that I'm not sure it exists anymore. It does, but only in regional. It's great. Great.
Starting point is 00:09:06 So we'll have to get the voucher. People still buy CDs. We'd have to drive on a road trip to buy, what, a human nature or a handsome CD each. No, I think they update the CDs. Sorry, are people in the country up to date? Well, yeah, is. Or Dixie Chicks and Lake Cernigan, but still. Great.
Starting point is 00:09:22 There's a new stuff. Dixing is great. Yeah, I'm not ready to make nasty, though. God, who is? I sang, um, traveling soldier in a pub in a tiny town in Ireland. Who is? I know that song. He was waiting for the bus to sit on the bottom.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Were you invited to, before? Did you just stand on the bottom? No, I just felt it in my heart. Just felt it. No, every pub in Ireland has a guy with a guitar, so he was singing, and everybody was to sing, and they were like, get up and soon. The Irish guy on the guitar has, he just has that in his repertoire. He had it in his book, so I was like, well, I'm doing it, and so, and I made him sing with me.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Is it a legal requirement to have the guitar and the man to serve alcohol in Ireland? Yeah, yeah, it's part of the RSA. Really? Yeah. No, dickhead. It's part of their culture. Hey, Dave. I once had a meal in Dublin.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It's a Mexican meal and the place was called the Blue Saxophone. That was a fun story. If we've got anybody in Dublin. And they played jazz music whilst you ate takeaway Mexican food. It was a very strange combination in Ireland. You ate takeaway inside the place? Maybe that was my problem. They were telling me to leave.
Starting point is 00:10:35 That was definitely. I thought it was a hate crime. That's what I thought was happening. You want me to leave? Okay, I'll get it. You don't serve my client here. No, sir, we've already served you. Now, can you please leave?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Would they not have had an accent, though, I think? That was the weirdest part. That's why I thought, I'm like, why is there a hate crime? You have the exact same sounding voice as me. Dave, were you talking to a mirror like a parrot? Yeah, I was pretty drunk in this blue sex phone. Hey, Dave, what's the question? Okay, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:02 So this is suggested through Facebook by Tim Robertson. So thank you, Tim. Appreciate this a lot. On your, Tim. My question this week is going to be a bit more abstract, then I'll explain the topic. My question is, would you answer this newspaper ad? Oh, I like this. I'll read it to you.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Okay. You're saying, you're saying, newspaper at. Men wanted for hazardous journey. No, I'm a woman. I'm out. Okay, Matt, you still in? Nah, hazardous. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:11:29 It gets worse. Low wages. No. Bitter cold. Long hours of complete darkness. Safe return, doubtful. Honor and recognition in event of success. That's all it says.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Nah. Are you in? This could be any of the episodes we've done in the past, Birken Wales. This could be a pirate expedition. It could be an arctic expedition. The one, the Everest. The Everest was the Everest one. Spice Girls was very similar.
Starting point is 00:11:55 That was the ad that they answered. Beattles. Hazardous journey, long hours of darkness. Pop group called the Spires Girls. I'm in. I'm in. I wanted to weed out the non-scary, sporty and bay. baby ones.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah, the baby ones would definitely respond to that ad. To answer your question, no, I wouldn't, but I'm a big old wuss. And is this a famous page in history, or is this some sort of obscure thing? No, this is quite a famous event. Okay. Not super obscure. So when you say it, are we going to go, oh, but I feel like you know a lot more than me, so probably you know it.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Let's see if Jess goes, oh. I'll just do it now and you won't know it. I'm a good actor. Well, don't act. Just be natural. Let it happen. Let it happen. I can't.
Starting point is 00:12:38 See you. I don't know what I'm really. I've been acting for 25 years. Yeah, yeah. Acting up like a bloody. I don't know who I really am. You're a real character, that's for sure. I am.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I'm not a real person. I'm just a character now. What if you are really just good at acting? And this is just you can. Oh my God. How would you know? I'm having a panic attack. How would you know?
Starting point is 00:12:56 You'd never know what I'm like at home. I'm not having a panic attack. I'm just pretending. No, I am. Help me. Okay. All right, because you guys said no to the ad. In 1914, 5,000 men said yes.
Starting point is 00:13:09 1914, they applied. The war. It is the year of the war, but it is not the war. They were applying to be a part of Ernest Shackleton's third trip to Antarctica. I have heard of that. I just kind of guessed it. Are you acting? Kind of.
Starting point is 00:13:26 No, no, no. I remember Ernie Shackleton from primary school, looking at his expedition. Are you looked at in the old school yard? I think so Yeah in the school yard Away from the curriculum We're like yeah
Starting point is 00:13:40 Can we learn about this And the teacher was like no And we're like no So we went outside And just read some books And taught each other Because I think that's important For children to do
Starting point is 00:13:49 It's the public school system for you I went to Catholic school That's the Catholic school That's the Catholic school system for you They don't want to teach anything but God It's hard to teach God Because he knows everything Yeah
Starting point is 00:14:00 Okay now God So Matt you've heard of this You've heard of this, Shackleton's... I've heard of Antarctica. Oh, okay. Shackleton doesn't ring a bell. Could you locate Antarctica on a map? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Excellent. There it is. I'm touching it right now on this globe. It's weird that we have a globe in the studio. And this big, beautiful globe. Check out these marvellous globes. We've got a whole wall of globes on this studio. It's a weird decor, but it kind of works.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Hey. It's our studio. and we like it. Anyway, Shackleton, Ernie. So 5,000 men signed up for this. They said, well, they applied. They had no idea that they were applying to be part of what is considered the last major expedition of the heroic age of Antarctic Exploration. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:52 It's kind of similar to the ad you guys placed when you're looking for a third person for the podcast. And we said honor and recognition in an event of success. And you are still waiting for that. I'm still waiting, but it's in the event of success. and we have not success yet. I can't wait to success. Just around the corner, I reckon. Yeah, I reckon success is near.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Our safe return is deadful from this podcast. Well, it's a bloody long report, so we better start it. It's not. So the only people, I think the names I think of with Antarctica are Scott. Yes. Of the Antarctic and Mawson and his hut. Oh, Morson. Douglas Mawson.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Is this post those guys? About the same time, they're considered the sort of main people. Robert Falcon Scott, Douglas Mawson, Ernest Shackleton And they're all So this is Shackleton's third trip To the Antarctic Such a good name too
Starting point is 00:15:42 Isn't it? Shackleton's good Ernest is good Put them together Good name Bang So Ernest Shackleton Was born in 1874
Starting point is 00:15:52 A great year You pointed at me for that Yeah I'm not going to give it to If you want it Oh that's weird A great year We don't have many great years
Starting point is 00:16:03 We have a lot of good years This one's a great year. Wow. I've only forgotten what year it was. Did you say 1974? 18. 174. He can't do the 1800s, can he?
Starting point is 00:16:12 It can be using so much. He's not younger than you, which is unbelievable, I know. 18. There were people before me. 1874 was a great year. He was born in 1874, up in Ireland, about 75 kilometres from Dublin, also 75 kilometres from the blue saxophone a Mexican restaurant. Oh, what a place.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Was Ireland around in the 1870s? I believe it was. He was the second of ten children. His brother Frank Shackleton. Do his parents know what's calling it? That's what my dad says. No, we love it. His brother Frank Shackleton would have no good.
Starting point is 00:16:52 It sucks, isn't it? Frank is so much less earnest than earnest. Yeah, because it would be short for Francis as well. Surely Francis Shackleton. That sounds like a good name. But Frank Shackleton makes him sound like he's a, like, a New York gangster or something. It does. I once, every time I hear the name Ernest, I think of...
Starting point is 00:17:14 Ernest, the character? No, I saw... The Yokel guy? I saw my friends when I was at uni do a production of the importance of being earnest, the Oscar Wildplay. And there's a big line where he says at the end, like a bit of wordplay. I now know the importance of being earnest. But he said the wrong character name.
Starting point is 00:17:32 He said his own name. because he was nervous that his parents were watching him at the first time. I now know the importance of being Dom. I mean... But he said it that calmly? That's great. I think I made it better. That's a really funny little album.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Got a big laugh. Oscar R would have been proud. Love to laugh. Anyway, Ernest brother Frank Shackleton would achieve notoriety as a suspect later exonerated in the 1907 theft of the Irish crown jewels. The theft was never solved and the jewels were never recovered. Just a little side note, I thought it's quite interesting. I've never heard of the theft of the crown jewels.
Starting point is 00:18:17 They're not sure who did it. A lot of people still say when I was Googling this, Frank, big suspect. Wow. But Ernest, his father was initially a land owner. Man, that sounds like a cushy job. Landowner. What do you do? No, he owns a land.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I own this land. Imagine that, yeah, that's a job. Like, I own this pen, for instance. You're a pen owner, not a landowner. I don't think you do. That was just on the table when we came in. I've lost the ink bit. I've spent the last couple of minutes looking for the middle bit of the ink.
Starting point is 00:18:43 You ain't that tiny tube of plastic. Where the fuck is it gone? This is why you can't own land, Matt. Father, landowner, through that all the way, that dream career to study medicine. What a dickhead. After he's got kids and then he's like, I'm going to be a doctor now. When he became a doctor, he moved the family to London. Shaquille O. Ton, as he would be called on.
Starting point is 00:19:05 on the rap circuit. What? Shackleton. Shaquillo Tom. I've even got the words he is spelled out phonetically. Shaquille O. Tom. I did not get that at all. Did you not...
Starting point is 00:19:17 Sorry, you guys... I'd call that just a not good joke. Yeah. Shaquil... Do I need to repeat it? Nah. There's that old rule that if you have to... You have to.
Starting point is 00:19:28 You're a bad comedian. Shaquil... Oh... Shackle... Mm-hmm. Tom. Also a bit like Shaquille O'Neill. Yep.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Mixed with Shackleton, mixed with... You said a rap name, but I mean, Shaquille O'Neill was a basketball. Yeah, it's just his name. I think maybe he released a rap song, but... Often, they'll reference... Whatever he is. For example, Eminem.
Starting point is 00:19:56 You know who you're just saying this is a really long report? Well, most of it is me. I've actually written the explanation of this little joke out, because I knew this would happen because I knew you guys weren't street enough for me. Oh, boy. Oh, no, no, no, Dave. Shaquille Oton, as he shall be referred to from now on.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I don't want to call him that at all. I want to call him Ernie. Can we vote? Shaquil Oton. Okay, we can vote. All right, Matt, I'm in for Shaquil Oton. Yeah, Matt, you're the deciderter here. I'm in for just calling him Ernie.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Ernie. I like Ernie better. Yeah. Okay, let's just do a count here. Two. Two for Ernie. Yep. How many for Shaquil Oton?
Starting point is 00:20:34 Ton? Can I phone a friend? No. To let them know that you lost this foe. I need counselling. I'm panicking. I've got to call my mum. Mom, it happened again.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Mom, I bombed. Wasn't even on stage. I was with my friends. You thought Shaquil O' Ton was cool, right? When I called you to ask about it? She co-wrote it. She's a smart lady. Great.
Starting point is 00:20:57 All right, so. Amanda. Ernie. Fuck, that's such bad comedy. Can I just say that? I'm so sorry to the listeners. Can we please tweet in hashtag Shaquilo Ton. Hashtaghtag Shaquille.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Don't ask me how to spell it. Look up Shaquila Neal. It's replaced the Neal with Ton. Then laugh for five minutes. Then hit send. Okay. Despite his father's wishes, he dropped out of school. and didn't become a doctor like his dad.
Starting point is 00:21:34 That's what he wanted to do. At age 16 and Ernie left school to join the Navy. He did an apprenticeship and during his four years at sea, so straight to sea for four years. Shackleton learned his trade, traveled to remote places on Earth and formed acquaintances with a variety of people from many walks of life. Wow. Learning to be at home with all kinds of men.
Starting point is 00:21:53 So sort of upper class, middle class and the lower class. Oh, he can just sort of blend in with everybody. Which makes him a good leader. But it also just, you know, it kind of gives this weird impression that, like, you know, we're all the same. We're all the same. Weird. No, thank you. In no way, am I the same?
Starting point is 00:22:13 Shaquillo Neal released four albums. Rap circuit. There we are. Oh, yes. I wondered why you went quiet. Shaq Diesel, Shaq Fu de return. No. You can't stop the reins, but are E-I-G-N.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Okay. And respect. Oh. I would imagine it was spelled R-A-I-N. You can't stop the rain. And it was just him. His house is flooded. Like lifting up his VCR out of the water.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Trying to, where do I put this? Oh, no, the carpet's ruined. Oh, fuck. I'm a tall man, but VCR's not tall. It was just like, it was a really dramatic album cover of him just standing in the rain. It was like a black and white photo. But yours is much better. He's just panicking.
Starting point is 00:23:00 His wife's taking a photo of him. Like clearing out... Just holding things above his head. Shack, can you hold this? But it's even funny because there's only about like three centimetres of water. There's not a lot of water, but he's just panicking. But whatever gets worse. What if it gets worse?
Starting point is 00:23:15 Mary, I'm scared of water. It's not rain, you're just... The dishwasher leaked. How can we be sure? It's coming from everywhere. He had a hit single. Top 40. It's one of the seven plagues of Egypt.
Starting point is 00:23:30 My firstborn son's about to die. It was called What's Up Doc? Can We Rock? Oh my God. So I wasn't sure if it was going to have rhyming skills or not. That's what I was trying to channel. That kind of badness with Shaquillo Ton, and you laughed at me and made me feel like an idiot. And here I am feeling justified now.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Because you're not Shaquille O'Neill. You're Dave Warnieke. He's a really cool guy. You're an ass pod from Melbourne. He's a professional basketball. He's a very clever dude that invested his money really well and is now worth hundreds of millions. Well, we'll be doing a report on Shaquille O'Neill. Are we doing one on Shaquillo Ton?
Starting point is 00:24:05 I'm pretty sure he had a movie called Blue Chip. So that doesn't surprise me was good at investing. Well, Matt, would you like to change your vote to Shaquilo Tom? No. We're still with Ernie. Annie. That's really just for time.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Great. So, good. I'm glad. I'm having to say Shaquiloton every time. Yeah. We've already said it too much. We've already wasted way too much time. Ernie,
Starting point is 00:24:28 aka Shaquiloton, aka Shaq Ton the second. What's up, Doc? What's up, can we rock? Can we rock? Will it ever stop raining? My PCR! Oh no.
Starting point is 00:24:43 All my tapes are my best, my whole lot. Get the tarp. Get the tarp. Not again. Janine. Janine. Why do we build on this swamp? Ernie.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Then had a few different jobs and different ships expanding his experience. Just trying to paint a man with a lot of experience on ships. Got it. His first taste of Antarctica was aboard the Discovery Expedition in 1901, which was led by Robert Falcon Scott. You were talking about that, man. Who was a controversial character. Great Scott.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Great Scott. Yeah. Thank you. He's quite a controversial character, many of whom paint as a bit of a fuckhead. Okay. Scott's a bit of a fuckhead. Is that how they describe it in their diary entries? A lot of people say he's not a great leader.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I love these people. We all know a lot of the stuff about them because they all kept diary entries. Yeah, it's so handy, isn't it? Big thing. But then I worry, because, yeah, like, why we should keep diaries, but then people would find them and read them and be like, God, you're obnoxious. You know, I worry about that.
Starting point is 00:25:44 I worry about it every day. Except that we release an audio diary with microphones every week. We are very obnoxious. Oh, no. I've thought about when we die, at up to this point, there's like probably 90 plus hours of us speaking. Can you imagine, though, that our loved ones as well? Like, you know how in movies,
Starting point is 00:26:05 movies, like a partner will die and somebody keeps calling their phone to hear their voicemail message? Like, our friends and family and loved ones, hoping that I eventually get some loved ones. They've got overwhelming material. I got too much. For me, the highlight real would be me saying Shaquilotone about 10 times in a row. Mine would just be me laughing at you saying rat catcher. We still get tweets about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:29 We still get the tweets. Or the boom boom. Oh, fuck, that was the best. Bumbo. Anyway. We peaked early. A few quick flashbacks there. Matt's highlight would just be now, hang on, just over and over again,
Starting point is 00:26:42 because that's all he says. That's your catphrase. I don't remember ever saying that. You've typecast yourself, Matt. You're the guy that says, hang on. What a career you've had. I've never said those words before. What words haven't you said?
Starting point is 00:26:56 The words you just said. I'm pretty smart. Hang on, gotcha. Oh. So anyway, so he's been. to Antarctica in 1901, Robert Falcon Scott, some people think he's great, there's many things I've read about him,
Starting point is 00:27:10 not a great letter anyway, Shackleton's particular duties on this trip were listed as, quote, in charge of seawater analysis. And emptying the poop bucket. Pretty much. Wardroom caterer in charge of hold, stores, and provisions.
Starting point is 00:27:27 A Ranger of Entertainment. Doesn't say anything about the poop bucket. It does not. But I imagine that comes under the entertainment. Yeah, he gets a weekly karaoke night going, I think. And he also... Weekly. Trivia nights.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah, tribut... Well, yeah, I mean, there's plenty of variety going. Oh, I see. I thought it was just like one thing a week was there entertainment. Oh, there's a different activity every night. Oh, great. Hula. Hula?
Starting point is 00:27:47 I was trying to think... No, not Zumba. What's the one when you go under a stick? Limbo. Limbo. Limbo. I'm great at Limbo. Are you?
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah, well, I used to be. I assume I still am. It's kind of like when you have skills as a teenager and you assume you still have them. Like, I was a pretty good runner and I was good at, like, high jump, and I still figure I could do that. I probably couldn't. I probably can't limbo anymore. Yeah, yeah. I used to be really good at Pokemon cards, so I reckon I still got it.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I still am. What did you used to be good at in the 1870s? In the 1870s? Were you good at prospecting for gold? Were you good at hunting mammoth? Yeah, hunting mammoth? Were you good at evolving into a human from a monkey? Yeah, I was really good at being a single-celled organism.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Did you start the big bang? I was pretty good at being the first fish to walk on the... land. That was one of my better things. Renowned for it. But no one could appreciate it because they're all stuck in the water. Yeah. Where'd Matt go?
Starting point is 00:28:40 Who knows? Yeah. Didn't go back. I was also good at tennis. Interesting. But with wooden rackets. There we go. During the Antarctic winter of 1902, the year that Matt won Wimbledon,
Starting point is 00:28:59 in the confines of the Iced in Discovery, Shackleton, to the expedition's South Pole Times Magazine. That's adorable. Which I imagine when you're trapped on the ice, your circulation is quite small. You make one coffee and you pass it around the ship. Yet they have an editor.
Starting point is 00:29:16 The men reached a record latitude. This is still in the 1901 trip. Got closer to the South Pole than anyone had ever done before. Wow. Beating the previous record established two years earlier. So this is a big, at the time, people are like, I want to get to the South Pole. First one there, first one there.
Starting point is 00:29:31 They get a little bit closer, a little bit closer. This journey was particularly harsh on Shackleton, and he was sent home sick. He had, however, got an invaluable experience and fallen in love with the idea of him being the first one to reach the poll. Why don't they get married then? If it was legal in that year, they would have. They weren't very progressive. Have we been everywhere? Have we legalized poll marriage?
Starting point is 00:29:54 Is that a thing? Well, that's my follow-up question. But firstly, have we been everywhere? Humans? Yeah. Do you think there's a chance that we've missed something? Ocean. There's a lot of undiscovered. Well, they say we've only been in 10% of the ocean.
Starting point is 00:30:08 So, like, under the water. The final frontier. That's right. The beach. The beach. Is that what they say? The beach. No, it's space, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:30:16 The beach. Where man has never treaded. Hey, guys, it's actually pretty good in the water. Interesting. You're a story sometimes of, like, a new areas of forest being discovered and stuff. You're like, there's still animals being discovered occasionally, like insects. That's not an occasion. I think it's all the time.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Oh, right, okay. And like, yeah, I just want to... And they discover... I'd really love there to be like a pretty big island somewhere that we missed. Oh, so cool. And they'd be, oh, sick. That would have been a fun time. Discovering stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Huge. But I mean, yeah, usually there were people there already, right? Yeah. So I guess it depends on what you mean, but I think everywhere has been somewhere. I don't mean colonizing, I guess. Have we colonized everywhere? I don't think that's a great idea. I mean, we wouldn't exist without it, but...
Starting point is 00:31:00 Have we banged on everything? Did you mind banged on Everest? Can we Google that? Does this podcast mean we've done a pod on every continent now? Oh, God. We would have. Do you reckon? Maybe South America.
Starting point is 00:31:14 This story will go to South America. Oh my God, Dave, you did it. We did it, guys. We did all the country. The first podcast to make it to all seven to nine continents. No one else was brave enough. I'm sorry that I keep interrupting when at the very start you told us this is your longest report of and I keep asking. I'm not going to talk for the next 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Page 2 of 13. Oh, my God. So, Shack returned to Britain, spent some time as a journalist, and then was elected secretary of the Scottish Royal Geographical Society. He also unsuccessfully stood for Parliament. Oh, he's a busy boy. He would tell his wife that he felt that he was good at nothing except when he was away on his long trips.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Aw. He was felt lost when he was not lost, if you know what I mean. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, he loved the... Isolation. In 1908, he returned to Antarctica as the leader of his own expedition on the ship Nimrod. Nimrod. The Nimrod expedition.
Starting point is 00:32:11 During the expedition, his team climbed Mount Erebus for the first ever time, which is a very big mountain down there. Made many important scientific discoveries. I've got a big mountain down there. How big? I regretted it as soon as I started to say it, but it was worth it. I enjoyed it. Bigger one. Um, his team set a record by coming even closer to the South Pole than ever before,
Starting point is 00:32:36 but they didn't make it. Oh. There's a bit of Argy Bargy between Shackleton and his old leader, Scott, who was pissed that Shackleton was using a base similar into the position that, the one that he used. That's my base. Don't you fucking touch my base. Right. He's being a bit of a diva. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Shackleton went back to Britain and he was knighted, became Sir Earned at Shackleton aged 35. Whoa. What a young go-gather. Matt. Matt, how many times did you? You been knighted age 30. Had they even invented knighthoods when you were 35? Well, back.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Sorry, I'm just trying to think back to the Middle Ages. Let's pull back the curtain a little bit and reveal that Matt was not actually a caveman. What? Don't tell them. Don't tell them my secret shame. But you don't have long before you're 35. And you don't have long to live. So what are you going to do to get knighted in that time?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Next couple of years. All right. I reckon, I got, to me, that's heaps of time. What, two years? We climbed Jess's Mount Erebus I didn't fully understand what she meant by that. I'm not sure either. Why, what were we talking about again?
Starting point is 00:33:39 Anyway, I'm not talking for these 10 minutes. Stop talking to me. He's not talking for 10 minutes. In 1911, Norwegian explorer rolled a Mutson, reached the South Pole, so the first ever person. He beat Scott by five weeks. This is who I remember learning about. So he's the Norwegian guy.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yes. Monson. And Scott was Robert Falcon, Scott, the guy that some people will say was a bit of a dick he was also trying to get there at the same time he made it five weeks after a munson
Starting point is 00:34:07 had and then on the way back he died in his tent oh I was about to tease him but he died oh yes I was about to be like take that fuck oh no and they know what happened because they found him frozen to death in his tent with his diary oh handy
Starting point is 00:34:21 yeah I am dying pretty much it said like you know all this lost oh shit I had to go No, Matt, 10 minutes isn't up. You put that microphone away.
Starting point is 00:34:33 No, Matt, you can comment. Preston P. Scott, you can say it. Was that what you're going to say? What are we going to say? I was going to say, yeah, talk about a diary. Well worth it, sir. That was such a wonky joke. You've been spending too much time together.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I'm really sorry. Can you edit that out, please? I don't want that sort of shit getting around. You bagged out one of your school members. mates from Cambridge. Because you were also alive in 1914. Yeah, me and Scotty go way back. Because you're old.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Oh, hang on. He did it. Oh, fuck. That's the catchphrase. I do that. He said a lot. Yeah, it's great. Have you not noticed I've been saying that now?
Starting point is 00:35:17 Messages a lot lately. No, I didn't realize it was the thing. Oh, hang on. You say it all the time. It's the best. And Dave just said, um, go. He's like it. Do I?
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah, that does ring a thing. though. Um, guys, can we stay focus, please? Sorry, Dad. Despite the... You can call me Dad if you like. Despite the public acclaim that greeted Shackleton's achievements during his Nimrod expedition, he was unsettled.
Starting point is 00:35:44 He wanted to achieve more. I get that. The news of a Moodsen's conquest of the South Pole, reached Shackleton in March 1912, to which he responded, The discovery of the South Pole will not be the end of the Antarctic exploration. The next work, he said, would be a... transcontinental journey from sea to sea crossing the pole, which to me
Starting point is 00:36:04 sounds like someone did it and he was like, oh, hang on, I've got to create a new job now. Yeah. How about we do it? But I'm moonwalking the whole time. Huh? No one's done that before. Have they? Check the records. Check the records. No, they haven't. I'll do it. I'll do it. But at the same time
Starting point is 00:36:20 kind of a nice positive attitude. Like, you didn't give up. It was admirable. Yeah. That's great. Shackleton needed money to fund his new trip. He estimated it would cost 50,000 pounds, current value, 4.3 million pounds. Yeah, that's what about it. Or about 8.5 million Aussie dollars. That's so many Aussie dollars.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And that was just to carry out the simplest version of his plan. The British government put in 10,000 pounds. It's not enough. It's a fifth of the way there. No, but he did not believe in appeals to the public. He said, quote, they cause endless bookkeeping worries. Only if he had Patreon. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:36:58 They take care of it for you. The bookkeeping worry. That's right. If you'd like to donate 10,000 pounds, which these days is the equivalent of 1 million pounds per month, we'll fly you to Antarctica. We would accept. I wouldn't say that. We'd accept. We'd accept a million pounds, would we not? I'm going to allow it.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Okay. We only take donations in pound form if it's a 1 million plus pounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Less than a million. Don't insult us. It's endless bookkeeping worries, am I? Yeah. Playwright and Peter Pan creator
Starting point is 00:37:35 J.M. Barry put in 10,000 pounds. What? Which is like the million dollars I was talking about. That's cool. Scottish industrialists, the guy named Sir James Cadd donated 24,000 pounds. Current value, 2 million pounds or 4 million dollars. Oh, mate, go 25, please. 24 is a weird number.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I love that that's your reaction. Yeah. Take it back. Well, no, like you give me another thousand. or take four back and just give me 20 or 25. What's 24? Maybe that's just what I had on him. Well, then just give 20.
Starting point is 00:38:09 You'd be terrible at an auction, wouldn't you? Yeah. All done. $6,000. No, I want to pay $700. I'd like to pay, okay, third time. Actually, that's only $7.10th of a million. I'd like to pay three quarters of a million.
Starting point is 00:38:23 You know, I... $750,000. You know there's no way I would work in fractions. I do not know how that works at all. Fine. Take a million. Take it. That sounds like a big number to me.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Don't let me go to an auction. Please. He acquired for 14,000 pounds. A 300-toned, three-mastered ship called Polaris. 15 or 10. Fuck. Which he renamed Endurance. Oh.
Starting point is 00:38:53 The endurance which Shackleton named after his family motto. Which was endurance. Make Matt Lime. Hang on. His family motto is, Jess, do you want to do the translation? You know Latin, don't you? Yeah. Fortititude.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Vincimus. What does that mean, Jess? Fortititude. It means. I've said that's so wrong. Can I read it? Fortititude Dean. Vinsimus.
Starting point is 00:39:31 No, it's more fun. It's more fun of you. Just go with what I said. I believe it means, by endurance, we conquer. incredibly translated. Yeah, if I remember my Latin classes correctly. Which you do, because I've Googler and that's right.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Thank you. Thank you very much. Fortititude, Vintimus. Fortititude. So can you break that down? What does fortitus mean? It's mostly in the... In something, empowering...
Starting point is 00:40:01 By endurance. By endurance. We conquer. We conquer. Gotcha. Got it, man? Sorry. So I was such a fucking...
Starting point is 00:40:10 dumb question. Nah, good on you. No, hang on. I forgot what my thing was. They also bought Australian explorer Douglas Mawson's expedition ship Aurora, which was lying in Hobart, Tasmania. It was lying there?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Lying. So Mawson's an... Wait, so it wasn't in Hobart, Tasmania there? Yeah, and he used to be on the money. Yes, wearing like one of some sort of mufti hat. And he had like a beard or a mustache. Yeah, just one of those things that covers everything but your face. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I know what you mean. I don't know what Mufti even means. I meant like furry. I was thinking like a big Russian hat. It's a Mufti, an Islamic scholar? He was definitely not the right word. He was wearing an Islamic scholar around his face and had a muster. Yeah, Mufty.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah, I meant. A grand Mufty. I meant like furry. Not Mufty. You meant a furry Mufty? Ferry Mufty. Is that what you think? No, I don't know what I meant.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I remember it now. Yeah, he was wearing a balaclav with a big eye hole for his whole face. That's right. Through the mufti, you could see your man's face. The worst bank robber, bellicabre ever. Explosing the entire face. Leaving out all your good bits.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Handing out business cards with your details. Adding everyone on Facebook. Put the money in the bag. How do you spell your last name? Why? I'm just adding you on Facebook. I'm trying to expect. I'm adding you on LinkedIn.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I'd really like to work at this bank one day. I'm going to tag you in a post later. It's going to be soon. I'm starting a comedy room. It's free. Some of the adventure was also paid by selling the film and photo rights. So they took along a photographer, which I'll talk about in a minute. The plan for them was the 14 men would land, of whom six under Shackleton would form the Transcontinental Party.
Starting point is 00:42:03 This group with 69 Canadian sled dogs, motor sledges and equipment would undertake the... 2,900 kilometre journey to the Ross Sea. So from one side of Antarctica go, they'd walk all the way to the other. The remaining eight people would stay and carry out scientific work. The Ross Sea Party, which is the second Sea Party, they had two ships, remember. They would go to the end of the journey on the opposite side, and they would go inland and lay... Eggs.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Lay eggs. No, they would put... It set up little deposits of... supplies, including eggs. So that way it would be easier for the men when they get halfway there, they could start picking up supplies. Mostly eggs. That's the plan, Jess.
Starting point is 00:42:56 It's an egg-based plan. Sounds like they've really cooked this egg. What's it sound like they've done that? Some shit egg joke. No, good on you. I haven't been paying attention. Zoned out. I was thinking about fractions.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Can you recap? Recap. Two groups of men, one's on one side of the Antarctica, one's on the other, the one's on the end of the journey, go halfway to the middle and drop off shit for the other men so they can walk from one side to the other and have food on the way. Sweet, so they're cheating. Pretty much.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Look. If you could look Ernest Shackotong in the face and tell him, is it cheap? Good on you. I did. Canon did. 1914. In uni, yeah. Of the 5,000 men that applied 28 words.
Starting point is 00:43:44 chosen for each ship, there's 56 of these guys in Turtle. William... It's a lot of eggs. What, for 56 men? He ate a lot of eggs. You have eggs on your brain. I don't eat eggs.
Starting point is 00:43:55 That's weird that I'm obsessed with them. It's weird. Jess, there. Eggs are in you. Ew. You're full of eggs. My part of who you are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:07 That's a fact. That might not be a fact. I don't know. It's possible. You're an egg-making machine. Stop it. In some ways, you could be. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:44:15 You're not thinking you make your eggs. No, I'm not thinking about my eggs. Matt, do I have eggs? I don't fully know how it works, but I'm pretty sure all humans make eggs. I do. For breakfast? No, no, not necessarily, but they make them inside their heuras. Every human being apparently knows how to make eggs.
Starting point is 00:44:32 It's just a survival mechanism. It's how we develop. No, not everyone. Some can't. Some can't make eggs. Not even scrambled in the microwave. Even I can do that. Ew.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Yeah. No, you can't do that. You can't even make a toasted sauce. You burn toast. All right, you call me, I can't make it. You'll never make it. You'll never make it as an egg man. No.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I'm the walrus. I am not the egg man. Gugoochuk. That's not right, is it? I loved that a lot. That song? No, just that whole call it. You just that whole call it.
Starting point is 00:45:01 You're an egg humorist. I'm all about the yokes. Is that, that's a joke? That's a joke pun? That's a pun. Are you doing a yuck yuck pun or a joke? What's that meant to sound like? Jokes.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Jokes. Jokes. I mean, both good. Thank you. But not. This is awful. We've done too many bad ones already. Do you get one.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Only quality jokes from now on, guys. Okay, got it. Do they still have to be egg-based? They have to be egg-of-course. I said, only quality jokes. Egg-based, like a keesh. What are you saying? Yeah, free range.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I'm giving your free range and... Thank you. Now, all good from here, all right? Fuck, I feel great. I'm going to talk about some of the people on the journey now. Okay. I'm going to try and be as egg-zact as they go. No, no more.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yeah. People are turning off. They're changing the channel. They're turning it up. No, they've gone to the kitchen to see they've got eggs. They're like, oh, I feel like eggs. And now we're sponsored by eggs. This episode brought to you by the good people that make eggs.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Chickens. William Lincoln Bakewell was taken on as able to... semen. Can't bake about eggs. True. He begs well. I'm so sorry. He was Abel Seaman.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Got it. His friend, Pierce... Wait, he was Abel Seaman. Yes. He was just looking for some eggs. That's how it works, Matt. You get the Abel Seamen. You get the Abel eggs.
Starting point is 00:46:33 You've got a baby. I'm thinking of Abel Tasman. There we go. Abel Seamen, what does that mean? Abel's just a rank. No, it's a job. You're at the Abel Seamen. Abel.
Starting point is 00:46:42 It's like you can do it. That's a rank. Abel Tasman was his name. Wasn't it? Did you think that I said he was taken on as Abel Seaman, that he had to change his name to join the show? No. I was very confused.
Starting point is 00:46:52 There wasn't Abel Tasman's name. I thought it might have been one of those theater cruisers. So that's what I said. I said it's a name. Anyway, there's a joke. I thought it might have been one of them theater dinner cruisers where he came on playing the role of Abel Seaman. The role of Abel Seaman tonight will be played by William Lincoln Bakewell.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Buh, he's shit. saw him last week in the Titanic Theatre restaurant did not know how to freeze to death his friend so Lincoln Bakewell and I just want to talk about his friend Pierce Blackborough
Starting point is 00:47:26 who was not hired because of his youth he was only 18 he was in experience and he was not qualified to go to Antarctica Not a very good Thespian He had not been denied it
Starting point is 00:47:37 Fearing the endurance It was short-handed Bakewell So the Abel Seaman helped Blackborough sneak aboard in a locker. Oh.
Starting point is 00:47:46 On day three at sea, he was discovered. Fucking hell, that would have been an awful time. I'm picturing like a high school locker. Yeah. It was probably like a big room. It was probably like a massive room with a big, big comfortable bed. He probably had the penthouse. Yeah, he probably had like...
Starting point is 00:48:03 The penthouse locker. He would have had a bunch of DVDs. He would have been fine. It was fine. And like, room service? Oh, yeah. Unlimited downloads. I'll have a club sandwich.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And I would like to watch Monsters University, please. You just put the DVD in... When you bring the sandwich, can you put that in for me, please? Please. On being discovered, Shackleton met the boy and went on a tirade. Lost it. When finishing his... Did you write that, Dan?
Starting point is 00:48:33 No, I did actually. Oh, Adler. But when he finished his performance, people say that he sort of just put on a bit of a show to sort of assert his leadership. When he finished his performance, he said to Blackborough, do you know that on these expeditions
Starting point is 00:48:45 we often get very hungry and if there is a stowaway available he is the first to be eaten to which Blackborough, the guy in the locker, replied they'd get a lot more meat off you, sir. Oh, cheeky. Shackleton hit a grin and after chatting with one of the crew
Starting point is 00:48:59 said, introduce him to the cook first. Sounds like a bloody jolly time. They made him walk the plank and he died. No, no, no, he proved an asset to the ship. They made him walk the plank. And he died. That was after he proved himself an asset to the ship.
Starting point is 00:49:18 He's eventually signed on properly. So he's just sort of like showing people to their seats and stuff. Oh, East 17. Very good, sir. Did you say East 17? E. East 17? A beautiful, beautiful album.
Starting point is 00:49:31 We'll get that right away. Ding! Excuse me, yeah, Stuart, can I just have the latest copy of East 17's third album? But of course. But of course, an excellent choice. Other key members of this story, so we've got the young, young bloke, Blackborough. We've got second in charge, Frank Wilde.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Frank Wilde from National Times. Frank Wilde was a veteran explorer who had been with Shackleton on both the Discovery and Nimrod Expeditions. He'd been there with Shackleton and Scott when they were just 97 miles from the South Pole. Shackleton gave Wilde his last biscuit when they're all sick and starving. So they're very time. That's cute. Trust each other.
Starting point is 00:50:11 His last biscuit. It was like an an answer. It was a good one. And it was in Monte Carlo. Or was it was the last one. It was the orange cream. It was like, no wonder he's giving it away. Piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:50:24 The last biscuit in one of those packets is the one you give away. Yeah, first Frank Wilde was like, what a gesture. And then he thought, what a fucking prick. I'd prefer to die slightly sooner. What two minutes sooner than the energy that this one biscuit will give me? There was Frank Warsley, who was the captain of the endurance. are there. Franks.
Starting point is 00:50:44 This is the second of three Franks. He was the very skilled navigator. Frank Hurley. You weren't early calling too many Franks. The very next name was another Frank. Why hasn't that blown your mind? Because I'm a genius. Frank Hurley was the...
Starting point is 00:51:01 That makes that adds up. Frank Hurley was the Australian photographer on board who documented the trip with photos and videos. Okay, now you're a tiger. Now you love the camera, darling. Yeah! Walk the plank, walk the plank. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Now you hate it. Now you're cheeky. Give me cheeky. Oh, put your finger in your mouth. You're all cheeky, aren't you? Is that Australian? Vombed up those can ofase to keep your size four pants. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Don't eat that last biscuit. A lifetime on the hips. Know what I'm saying? Is that fashion lingo? Yeah. Yeah. That's how fashion works. Fashion.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Fashion. Fashion. Fashion. Fashion. Fashion. Fashion. You can hear his teeth click when he says it. Fashion.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Hey, what's my catchphrase again? Oh, hang on. Oh, hang on. It's very close to our show title. Do hang on. Do hang on. Final person I'll talk about for now is... Is it Frank?
Starting point is 00:51:53 No, it's Harry. Mick Nish. Harry feels like it's in the world of Frank. Frank and Harry. But you imagine how left out he felt. Harry McNish. McNish is great. He is a carpenter.
Starting point is 00:52:04 He brought a cat with him called Mrs. Chippy. That's a dumb cat name. Mrs. Why is it a missus? Why are you bringing a cat on a boat? Well, it gets worse because a few weeks into the trip they discovered he was a boy, but the name had already stuck, so they kept calling this cat Mrs. Chippy. Why does it make it worse, Dave? Why does it make it worse?
Starting point is 00:52:25 Oh, no, the cat that doesn't understand English. The name is still dumb regardless. Oh, but to add insult to injury, the boy cat has been getting called a feminine name. Oh, no. Well, I'm just giving this cat a bit more respect. You're a fucking piece of shit, that... Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:52:44 I'm just saying that the cat was intelligent enough to know that Mrs. Chippy was a fucked name. That's a dumb name. The cat was very popular with the men on board, and when he fell overboard, they turned the ship around to go back and get him. Oh, that's adorable. Isn't that lovely?
Starting point is 00:52:57 They loved the cat. They ran out of boat petrol. A mere two miles from shore. Wind? That round... Boat petrol is wind. I'm not up with the north. They definitely had a...
Starting point is 00:53:11 Starboard, is that a thing? They definitely had a boiler on board. They had an engine. Boat petrol. It had. On the endurance with Shaq, there was also, just quickly going through this, two surgeons, a geologist, a biologist,
Starting point is 00:53:23 a physicist, and a meteorologist. And a partridge in a pear tree. There were no euphologists on board. Disappointing. Standard fried man. Didn't get the call up. He was on the 5,000. He made the short list, but not the short list.
Starting point is 00:53:40 No I'm saying. Shackoton. Shackoton. She'll just been Shackoton, shouldn't it? It should have been anything other than anything you've said. Endurance left without Shackleton. It left Plymouth on the 8th of August 1914, heading for Buenos Aires.
Starting point is 00:54:01 South America, ticked. We don't have to go back. Shackleton, who traveled on a faster ship, rejoined the expedition in Bonaerese. Why was his ship faster? more boat petrol Oh, because he'd been left behind On a smaller faster ship
Starting point is 00:54:16 He'd been left behind because he was still organising shit He was using his cats for petrol Shoveling more cats Is that a Simpson thing? Yeah, yeah, it is, it is, definitely is. A couple of weeks earlier, World War I had started Shack offered his men
Starting point is 00:54:32 and ship to help the cause But they were not needed Not called up They're like, no, no, no, we got this You do your thing I think we got this. I think this should be over by the end of the month. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Don't worry about it. You guys have got stuff on. It's a little uprising, no big deal. Don't worry about it. We'll quell this. We'll quell this uprising. We'll quell it. We'll quell it.
Starting point is 00:54:52 And then we'll win it. And then we'll bin it. And then we'll high-five it. After it's in the bin. We're going to high-five it. Then we'll wash our hands. There we go. And we'll thank the Lord.
Starting point is 00:55:05 What? What's happening? It was a different time. You've got to wash your hands before you thank the Lord. I'm not an animal. Do you think he wants your bloody sticky hands all over his prayer books? He bloody knows where that is. Oh, he bloody does.
Starting point is 00:55:18 He invented bins. I think he's cool with it. And sticky things. They've been all over their mountains even on them soon. Still don't know what that means. On the 26th October, the ship sailed for the South Atlantic, so it left South America, arriving in South Georgia Island a couple of weeks later. After one month of waiting at the whale hunting station on
Starting point is 00:55:39 Georgia Island. The endurance set off for Antarctica. So they stopped for a bit for better weather. Stop for a month on this very remote island that's just north, I believe, of Antarctica. The party encountered pack ice. I'm not having a party. Well, they were partying. Then they discovered they encountered pack ice.
Starting point is 00:56:00 That's the worst when you have a party and they run out of ice. So that is pretty good. Yeah, they discovered some pack ice. Like, oh, thank God, because I was about to send Steve up to the shop. But over the servo. back to South Georgia Island Servo Much earlier than expected
Starting point is 00:56:14 They encountered this pack ice And they had to maneuver through it Quite carefully Which slowed them down a lot Easy Easy Easy You're just going on this
Starting point is 00:56:23 I got this Like backing a trailer You're miming backing a trailer Am I doing back there boys Easy Am I there on the left Got plenty of room on the left Hang on no
Starting point is 00:56:35 Shit you're in the flower bed Oh God Oh no You're in the pack of us Mom is pissed. This is not good. How am I going to get out of this? You're on your own stay.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Shack, got you later. Bye. At one point they got stuck for 24 hours. They had hoped the ass would be much loosier and looser and easier. You're a loosia. Lusia. What a lusia. Which was a word at the time.
Starting point is 00:57:00 It was a different time. Language is always evolving. It's so fluid or lusia. To quote the time. They hoped it would be looser and easier to smash through because they're in a kind of ship that is supposed to be able to smash through ice but it's much thicker than they thought. On the 15th of January, so this is a few months in,
Starting point is 00:57:22 endurance came abreast of a great glacier, the edge of which formed a bay, which appeared a good landing, so they could sort of stop there and land. However, Shackleton considered it too far north and except under a pressure of necessity, he said, would they land there? This was a decision they would later regret. So they had the opportunity to get off. Let's not forget that.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Okay. Because after six weeks of travelling through the ice and still 100 miles from the actual continent of Antarctica, so there's ice, but this isn't actually Antarctica. It's just sort of the start of the ice that gets you there. They arrived at extremely thick ice. They sat in the ice and waited to see if it would clear. This is, in hindsight, not a good decision
Starting point is 00:58:04 because the temperature dropped from 20 degrees Fahrenheit above to 20 degrees below. the ice froze solid around the ship. Oh no. Suddenly they're in like the middle of ice looking around going, hang on. Oh no. All right. Get all the kettles we have. Boil the cattle.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And then we'll have it. Then we'll have a cup of tea and we'll think about it. Yeah. Because that'll crack the windshield if you just pour it straight on. No, yeah, you can't. You can't go hot water onto cold. You cannot crack the Antarctic windshield. You can't.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Also, I just realized this entire time I've been thinking of them basically in like a first fleet boat, But like, this is 1914. They had a better boat than that, didn't they? It's better, but it's not like... I'm thinking sailboat. It is a, well, it's a wooden boat with three masts. When was, when was the Titanic? That's what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Yeah, soon after. Right, so it looks like that, I guess. Yeah, no, it was more of a... It's wooden. It's wooden, yeah. Ah. That's a cruise liner and this is like... Are they're not on a cruise liner?
Starting point is 00:59:01 No, there's only one pool, Matt. But it does have room service and beautiful lockers. And it's got a copy of a monster's universe. Listen, imagine getting on boarded a ship that you're going to be on for possibly many months, discovering that's the only DVD. Oh, boy. Fuck. I was just reliving an experience I had when I was in Vegas. I ordered room service one day and watched Monster University.
Starting point is 00:59:24 I wasn't even being creative there at all. I'm assuming you were hungover. I was in Vegas. Sure, sorry. There was a lot of truth to that story. There's not a lot of imagination in that story. Were you also locked in a locker? Stowed away.
Starting point is 00:59:39 You weren't allowed to be in that hotel room, were you? No. They paid for a two bedroom. I'd be two bed. There was three of you. Yep. Fact. After ten days of inactivity stuck in the ice,
Starting point is 00:59:50 the ship's fires were banked to save fuel. Ship fuel. Ship fuel. Oh. Boat petrol, he called it. Excuse me. Ship fuel. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Boat petrol. I don't know the technical terms. Well, you're embarrassing us all days. It's meant to be educational, please. I will make... All right, we'll pause here. I'll go away. I'll do some sort of ship-based apprenticeship and we'll come back. Do some push-ups while you're at it.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Oh, please. What does that got to do with anything? I have a powerful mind, not a powerful buddy. Well, we want a powerful body. Yeah. Okay, fair enough. Your chest could use some work, though. It's a chest?
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah. Okay, anything else? Maybe your side obliques. Sidobleeks? I just like saying that. Obliques. I saw that on an infomercial once. Google.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Really works your side obliques. I'm not in that weird. But I don't think you need to say side obliques. Is that? Like, aren't they just obliques? Works your midsection? Yeah. Upper, lower, and side obliques.
Starting point is 01:00:47 That's what the guy said. It was like body by Jake sort of thing. You got a Jake? You got a chin. You got a side. You got an oblique. Unless you're a gastropod, then you're a slug. But then what are you watching my show for?
Starting point is 01:01:03 What are you watching? Don't fucking waste my time, slug. You keep on walking. You don't even walk. I don't even know what to say to you. Keep on crawling. You're slag. me fucker.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I love this episode. I'm having so much fun. Unlike the last 67 episodes. I'm so worried that this episode will go longer than the actual journey of the endurance. No, we're fine. We've got, we've got endurance. We've got insurance. So the ships turned off, they turned off the engines.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Strenuous efforts were made to release her. Release her! Release the slugs! The ice won't know what hit it. The army of slugs. Release the slug army. Sir, I'm not sure if we could call it an army. There's only six slugs.
Starting point is 01:01:56 I said release the slug army. They haven't been breeding like we thought they would. We brought only boy slugs. It turns out that they can't change gender. They are not hermaphroditic like some other species. I was misinformed on the slug matter. Never mind. Release the slug.
Starting point is 01:02:18 It appears that we are still stuck in the eyes and we now have six dead slugs. My plan has backfired. Fortunately, I have a backup plan. I will act like a slug myself and chew our way out of this. Release the slug costumes. This is all real time. It's a real time, heaven. I want.
Starting point is 01:03:07 All right, so to sum up, the stuck on the ice, Shackleton orders the men out there with ice chisels, picks, sores, whatever they've got, shovels to try and chop away through the ice, but the labour proves futile, the slugs failed. Did they try kettles? They did not.
Starting point is 01:03:25 They were not ingenious. Kettles had not been invented. Oh. It was lamented. They were cold tea. Yuck. Cold tea. They're going to have a lot of cold shit on this journey.
Starting point is 01:03:34 I'm going to tell you that right now. They didn't have any dynamite or explosives so they couldn't blast the ship out. Prepare the dynamite. We used the area for the dynamite and filled it with slugs. Slugs have proved to be a double-edged sword. So good.
Starting point is 01:03:55 They tried in vain, but they couldn't break through the ice, and they started to drift north. So it's floating, but it's solid for them around them, so it starts to float. And with them. With them stuck in it, so they just start to see that they're moving every single day. It was realized that they would have to spend a winter stuck on the ice
Starting point is 01:04:12 and wait for warmer weather to release them when the ice got further north, and they got better weather. This is not a good scenario. Release the boat. So it is not working. We now have one dead bolt on the eyes. Everyone together now.
Starting point is 01:04:31 On the count of three, we all need to, ready? One, two, three. Release them. Jones, you're not doing it. So it turns out that everyone chanting, release the bolt has little to no effect. Interesting. Do we have any more slugs?
Starting point is 01:04:47 Not so. I'm afraid Mrs. Chippy ate the last slug. Is my slug costume back from the dry cleaners yet? Well, boys, looks like we're fucked. I've thought of two slug-based ideas, and I've got nothing else. Though his next decision was the dogs were taken off board and housed in ice kennels. They were dogs? Or dog glues.
Starting point is 01:05:09 69 Canadians led dogs. Excuse me, dog lues. Dog lus for the, like, like, igloo for dog glue. Fuck off. That is the cutest thing. I've ever heard of my life. Did you make that up, Dave? I did not. I actually quoted this
Starting point is 01:05:21 called the source. They referred to them as dogloos. Oh my god, it's so cute. Is it just like a little igloo? Oh, my little donkey. The ship's... It's warmer for them to be off in the ice and on the ship. Well, iglo's are right. Well, no. The ship's interior was converted to suitable winter quarters,
Starting point is 01:05:38 so they needed to make more room for the men inside. Right. Because these are Canadians, they're used to being outside, but men, less so. Less so. I wonder how many dogs to a dog. dog glue or did they have individual ones? 69 dog loos. 69.
Starting point is 01:05:51 One each. One each. No, I'm not sure. I don't know. It'd be amazing. That'd be so cute. I'm picturing I'm really small like kennels, but yeah, they're probably... I think they are.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Yeah, well, you'd just have one inch, right? Oh, so cute. All lined up. Yeah, and they got little boxes out the front so they can... Send each other mail. You can visit each other. Telegram for Mr. Chips. 69 dogs.
Starting point is 01:06:17 How much space must have been taken up by dog food? Take one more dog. Just so pissed up not a round number. Why the fuck? 69. You got a problem with 69. Look at the number. It is the most round number there is.
Starting point is 01:06:32 No, mate. No, no, no, no. Don't try and sway me on that. Look at it. Just look at it. Take one more dog. 70 dogs. 69 dogs.
Starting point is 01:06:39 69 is the magic. Like, what if they're trying to pair up for, you know, activities? Threesome. Oh, come. Three goes into 69. Yeah, 23 threesomes. Or 169sum. Oh, a chain of dogs.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Yeah, in a big circle. They connect up. Yeah, yeah. It's the Holy Trinity. Stop it. Just saying. Take one more dog. Do go on.
Starting point is 01:07:03 They set up the inside of the ship for winter quarters for various groups of men, officers, scientists, engineers, seamen. All sticking together. Oh, God, sticking. You did that on purpose. A wireless apparatus was rigged, but they're all. The location was too remote for them to transmit signals, so no one knew where they were. They couldn't call for help.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Shackleton knew of a ship a few years earlier that had come stuck in a similar area, and after six months of drifting, was able to break free and then carry on with its mission, like nothing happened. So that was his hope. He thought, well, wait out winter. For six months. Six months. But when we get out, we'll still be able to keep going on the journey.
Starting point is 01:07:38 You'd go mental. That is a bit of a worry on this journey, which I can tell you, sadly, has only just begun for the men. To start with the rate of the drift in the ice was very slow. At the end of March, Shackleton calculated the ship had travelled 95 miles or 153 kilometres. Nah, I would walk 95 miles. Oh, 95, Jess. So close to the tongue. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I don't, I don't hate, but like, come on, 100. So fives, basically. Yeah, I like five. So you're the kind of person who... Can only do five times tables, yes. But on the volume, control, javit, does it come up on the TV with, like, numbers? Yeah. You'd do it in fives.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Yeah. Even if it's too loud or too quiet. No, probably just evens then. Okay. Yeah. So like 24 is okay. 24 is okay? You're a bloody complex animal.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Yeah, I am. That's okay. Imagine being stuck on a ship with her. Fuck. It's tedious. What? Where does your weird number rule come? come in on this.
Starting point is 01:08:45 How many eggs am I allowed to order for breakfast? But that's the thing. It doesn't bother me with like other people. It seems like it does. Oh yeah,
Starting point is 01:08:51 good point. And yeah, I mean, everything is. I mean, I mean, you weren't on the endurance and you've been pissed off
Starting point is 01:08:57 a lot. That's a good point. Wow. I've got some things to consider. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I kind of had a, I kind of thought
Starting point is 01:09:06 I was a fairly mellow person. Kind of go with the flow kind of gal. But I'm learning. But I'm not. So, they only traveled that distance since the 19th of
Starting point is 01:09:18 January, so they're not that much in about six weeks. However, as winter said in the speed of the drift increased and the conditions of the ice surrounding them changed. On the 14th of April, as it got colder, Shackleton recorded the nearby pack ice, piling and rafting against the masses of ice
Starting point is 01:09:34 and he felt as if the ship was going to be caught in the disturbance and crushed like an egg shell. There he is, eggs. He did it. He did it. In the winter months of May June...
Starting point is 01:09:47 Excellent. There he is. Eggs. That's what he said. We just let him do it. There he is. Eggs. Oh, eggs.
Starting point is 01:09:56 And there's eggs. In the winter months of May, June and July, it was completely dark 24 hours a day. What? And very cold. And they're just all stuck on a boat. Yuck! Stuck on a boat or ice. There's no real land around, I should say,
Starting point is 01:10:10 beneath them is... They can stand on it because it's really solid ice, but it's not... proper land. Yeah. Oh. He's such a snooty. Unlike Iceland. It's not real land, is it?
Starting point is 01:10:22 Not like where I'm from. Australia. That's real land. And we have heaps of it. Some would say too much. We don't even use the middle bit. Shackleton was concerned to maintain fitness, training and morale. Although the scope for activity was limited, the dog...
Starting point is 01:10:37 High knees, high knees, chin up. Hop, hop, hop. The dogs were exercised and occasionally raced competitively. Exercise. Like as in they were demons in them. They performed exorcisms.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Knightly. I actually needed that full explanation. I was like... I'm with you. Stop doing physical act out. I will never stop. Men were courage to take moonlight walks. They played...
Starting point is 01:11:04 Oh, romantic. How beautiful. In a permanently dark time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so the moon was the only thing that would light up the... Just at night. So in the day it was dark.
Starting point is 01:11:15 In the day, it was darker during the day than at night. Weird. Amazing. That's weird. In the lighter months, they played soccer on the ice. And aboard the ship, they attempted to put on plays. Oh, my God. And once a week, they had a gramophone concert.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Oh, that's nice. Once a month. No, once a week. Once a week. I've seen a photo that is captioned that the men were having a hair-cutting tournament. That's weird. I'm not sure what the competition is, but they all seem to have shaved heads. Who looks the best?
Starting point is 01:11:43 The real loser was fashion. They look terrible. Fashion. No, it's shaved head. That's a style that'll never go out. Strong look. It is a strong look. On a good head.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Have you done that? It's a bald look. It's the one haircut I've never done. And I don't, I implore you not to. The one. Have you done a Mohawk? Yep, done a Mohawk. Mullet.
Starting point is 01:12:01 You have not. You've done a mohawk? I've done them all, man. Oh my God. Well, that's... I haven't done a moh. I've done the Rachel. I've done the Rachel, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I've done the Monaco. I've done the Ross. I've done the... Chandler Bing. Tell me, you didn't do it, Ross. It looked terrible. It's not, yeah, it's not a good one. The dogs kept up the men's morale, and four puppies were born.
Starting point is 01:12:23 So there were some girl dogs. Oh, wait, but now we've got 73 dogs. Yeah. Is that cool? Is that cool? Kill one dog? No. Kill three dogs?
Starting point is 01:12:35 Yeah. Okay. Your brain is messed up. Not have two more, kill three. No, have two more. Yeah, just attrition It'll take some out Just give them time
Starting point is 01:12:48 Yeah, so you're right You're not wrong, mate The ice started to squeeze the ship And it started to list or lean So it was something It was on more and more of an angle It was feared the ship would be crushed But there was a lull after the initial crush
Starting point is 01:13:00 Of a few weeks before it happened again But this time much worse They could hear the ship Being physically squeezed Holes were made below And the ship started to fill with ice cold water so they had to constantly bail it out and pump it out. They were made by, they didn't make it myself.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I'd call that a tactical error. Putting holes in the bottom. Yeah. This should help. Oh, no. Hang on. Hang on. Let's make the hole bigger.
Starting point is 01:13:27 The water will drain out the bigger hole. It'll enter this hole and drain out this hole. Oh, no. Another hole. Take out the bottom of the boat. We don't need this. That's trapping in the water. If we let it all out, we'll be safe.
Starting point is 01:13:42 That didn't work. We're all now in the water. The bottom of the boat was holding us in as well. Oh my God. Who knew? Thank God we've gotten out of the evil clutches of that horrible, horrible boat. Yeah. We start our new life here.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Under the sea. Under the sea. Under the sea. Under the sea. When the timbers broke, they made noises, which the sailors later described as being similar to the sound of heavy fireworks and blasting guns. The supplies and three lifeboats were transferred to the ice. The crew attempted to shore up the boat's hull and pump out the water,
Starting point is 01:14:21 but after a few days, in freezing temperatures, standing in water that was minus 25 degrees, Shackleton gave the order to abandon the ship. Abandon ship and slug. Leave the slugs. Now I've got to bury him. I won't leave no slug behind. And the slug's like... Is there what a slug does?
Starting point is 01:14:42 Yep. Oh, the slug, there's still one kicking. Remember my family. Tell my mother, I'm a slug. She knows, mate, she knows. Come on, you can just fit in my pocket. Tell her, I'll never leave the ship. What, it's going down.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Captain always goes down with the... You're not the captain. I'm not the captain. He's closing its little sluggy eyes. Close the eyes. Sh. Night, Captain. Its eyes on the end of those things.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Antenna, or something, maybe. That's good. Thank you. I didn't know. I didn't have those skills. The wreckage remained afloat, and over the following weeks, the crews salvaged further supplies and materials,
Starting point is 01:15:33 including Hurley's photographs and cameras that he'd left behind. He had to wade through freezing water to get them, but he really wanted them. Photographers. From around... Just post them along, mate. Put him in the cloud. Fucking cloud, mate.
Starting point is 01:15:48 I hate it when you beat me to jokes. I'm very quick. But also, you are, and I'm always proud of you when you do, because I'm like, that's my boy. That's my friend Maddie, he's funny. Anyway, I love you. From around 550 photographic plates, Hurley chose the best 150,
Starting point is 01:16:04 the maximum that could be carried, and Shaq ordered that he smashed the rest to avoid the temptation of risking his life to come back for them later. So he chose the best 150. to get rid of 400. Wow. That's...
Starting point is 01:16:18 Okay. But he kept 150. Get one... That's a nice number. You like that? I'm okay with that. He kept the best 146. Oh, fuck off. Get four more or burn them all.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Can we just get a recount? He's sitting there just thinking, look, I think I've got 150. It's about 150. Is that enough? I'm okay with that. Ignorance is bliss. I'm okay with thinking it's 150 and it's 143. Because actually, I've just read there's a note here that one of them was lost.
Starting point is 01:16:44 This is actually 149. That's not true, but I'd just like annoying you. Okay, so without a ship, their plan is a bit fucked. Is that what it says in the diary? Well, I just want to say that I think even Shackleton, who's pretty optimistic, has realized that they won't be making it to the South Pole on this journey. They were fucked in a lot of ways. Shackleton's intention was now to march the crew westward
Starting point is 01:17:07 to one of several possible destinations. Before the march could begin, Shackleton ordered the weakest animals to be shot, including McNish's cat, Mrs. Chippy. How many dogs were shot? And the four pups. Oh, so they're still 69 dogs. Wouldn't it have been more humane just to set them free and let them set up their own new cat, cat and dog community? They definitely do.
Starting point is 01:17:31 You saw what happened with the camels in Australia, Matt. That's true. They'd run havoc. Carry the puppies or kill four old dogs. Imagine how they would have evolved. In the ice cats. I mean, sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Would you not kill four old dogs? Yeah, I would have killed four old dogs. Like they've had a good run. It's still not, I mean, still in all, I mean, bloody Sophie's choice. But these are the weakest ones. But they make the most potential. Does it piss you off that they were allowed to keep the banjo for morale? Oh, fuck off.
Starting point is 01:18:01 You always keep the banjo. Would you shoot four dogs to save a banjo? Because I wouldn't. That's the only fucking song you know. And how good is it for your morale? Like a ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. But remember when we kill that adorable puppy? Anyway, but a dang, dang, dang, dang, do any requests?
Starting point is 01:18:17 Remember that song I played whilst you were bludgeoning the puppies to death? Bada ding ding ding ding. So they started marching without the pups, without the cat. It was very tough going on the ice. I don't know what I've been told. Like that. They were doing that, but in three days, the party managed to travel barely two miles, 3.2K, and when they looked back, they could still see the ship where they'd come from.
Starting point is 01:18:38 That's the length of the Melbourne Cup. In three days. The other day, I went for just a... casual stroll on a Sunday morning went for a walk I walked 5Ks didn't even mean it was just an easy walk and these people can't do it in fucking three days
Starting point is 01:18:54 three days they've done 3Ks they just don't have the right attitude they should do their couch to 5K and that I think that's a good app and interval training is really effective yeah I think so yeah that was their problem that was a problem they just went too hard too early should have done the beep test
Starting point is 01:19:10 should have done the beep test fucking beep test are they set up camp and called it ocean camp And they kept salvaging things from the endurance until it finally sank beneath the ice. Oh, shit. One day it was gone. And this is because they just waited when they should have forged on. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:25 And they took a, well, I don't know. They sort of took a punt in keeping going through the thick stuff, thinking that they'd be able to keep going, but then it just froze around them. That's fascinating. They were still drifting northerly on the ice, but not fast enough to get closer to land by the end of, because that was the next thing. Oh, we'll just keep going until we go north enough that we're near an island.
Starting point is 01:19:49 But not quick enough. Shack wanted to get closer to the islands north of their position so they wouldn't have to travel far in the lifeboats because they've only got small ships now. So on the 21st of December, he announced the second March to begin two days later. Oh, Christmas. Remember how badly that went last time? Because conditions had not improved since the earlier attempt. Temperatures had risen and now it was uncomfortably warm.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Oh, what? With men sinking to their knees in soft snow as they struggled to haul. boats through pressure ridges. So they're dragging boats. I'm so dumb. I'm like, warmer? That's great. Yeah, no. Oh, yeah, that causes all sorts of new issues.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Still, like, in the low temperatures. You could have got your thongs and your singlet on, no. Yeah, come on, boys. On the 27th of December, the ship's carpenter, Harry McNish, rebelled and refused to continue walking and working. And then what? Then what, Harry? Then what? He argued the ship's articles,
Starting point is 01:20:44 which is the agreement that they had to, bay the leader had lapsed into the endurance sinking and since the ship no longer even existed they were no longer under the order so he was like you're not my captain anymore so what's he going to do so what's you going to do like i get that you're pissed harry but let's use our words because you're all out in the middle of fucking nowhere that is shackled and stood up to him and uh apparently uh he stood down so i reckon he probably said something pretty strong like yeah good for you good for you we're all pissed this sucks for all of us What are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:21:13 Go off by yourself. Okay. See you in another 500 metres because there's nowhere else you can fucking go. I got really mad at Harry. I'm sorry. Well, Harry back down. Shackleton wrote in his diary that night, everyone working well except the carpenter,
Starting point is 01:21:28 I shall never forget him in this time of strain and stress. And he won't. Let me just say that. A bit of sizzle. Gonna kill him. Eat him. Two days later, with only seven and a half miles, 12K progress achieved in seven back-breaking days,
Starting point is 01:21:45 Shackleton called a halt, observing, quote, it would take us over 300 days to reach land at this pace. The crew put up their tents and settled into what Shackleton called Patience Camp, which would be their home for more than three more months. Oh, no. They were running low on supplies, so the dogs were shot, some of them eaten. It's a great thing about dogs.
Starting point is 01:22:05 But you can eat them. Excuse me? Well, I mean, they both can pull. pull your food, but when they're not pulling any more food, they can be food. Says the vegetarian. I'm surprised they made it. Like, I was thinking, though, this story was going to be over the next, you know, they were going to die in a month after this ship got fucked. Yeah, they've lasted a while.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Doing well so far? Yeah, seemingly. Except Harry. Oh, they also had a lot of seal meat. Ooh. I imagine really fatty. You want that, right, in that kind of weather? Yeah, but I think it was pretty awful.
Starting point is 01:22:39 So they had seal And penguins, they had penguins too Oh, but they're so cool Yeah, but I think it was quite fatty all around But yeah, but they ate every part of the animal Sometimes they talk about having seal backbone Eating the bone Well, I think it had flesh on it
Starting point is 01:22:56 Oh, okay And they took that off and ate the bone That's weird They threw the meat into the water The group were suddenly forced to bail on Patience Camp This is three months later on the evening of the 8th of April when the sheet of ice suddenly split. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:23:13 The camp now found itself in a small triangular raft of ice with water all around them. If this broke into even smaller pieces, they would definitely be dead. So Shackledon readied the lifeboats for the party's sudden departure. Wow. Shack debated about which island to headfall. He considered Deception Island hearing that there was a little... That sounds like a bad idea. Sounds bad, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:23:34 Yeah. He heard that whilst people didn't live there, there was a church for whalers there. But that was a lie. It's all the fucking lie. It's just a mirage. Thank you. He hoped that he would catch some whalers at church or the other option was the closer elephant island,
Starting point is 01:23:51 which is also uninhabited and they wouldn't be rescued from there. But like, don't disrupt the whalers at church. Yeah. I mean, a bit of respect. Bit of fucking respect. I mean, wait outside. On the Sabbath. Until they're done.
Starting point is 01:24:03 And it is on the Sabbath. They plan to land on the Sabbath. They're planning to land. That's rude. Heathens. Get in the day before. Yeah. And bloody wait.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Wait your turn. They learn nothing at patience camp. They've got none. Tell you that. Hey Dave, you've stopped calling Ernie Ernie. Can you go back to that, please? Yeah, you've been calling him Shackleton, which is so disrespectful. Ugh, yucky.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Shackoton. Oh, boy. This is the worst day of my life. No, it was Shikilotan. Yeah, you've already forgotten your own nickname. Because Shackoton's better. Like, you know how they... Call your mum.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Over time, you like progress through names, like it's little bow wow, then bow wow, or... Well, that's just because he's no longer little. Pardon? That's just because he's not little anymore. Well, he's no longer a Shaquil. He's now a shack. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:51 I know, that does make sense. Sorry, I wasn't following now, yeah. Now I get it. Well, do go on. Do shut on. So they decided to go for elephant island, which even though no one's there, they thought they'll get there
Starting point is 01:25:02 and then they might start hopping to other islands. An elephant meat is, you know, that bigger. More meat on them. A beautiful, a beautiful animal to eat. That's a beautiful eating animal. Is it a beautiful animal? To eat. Quite hideous to look at.
Starting point is 01:25:18 To hold nothing. So they're now in the lifeboats. They're at sea. Conditions were horrendous. Temperatures were sometimes low as minus 20 Fahrenheit or minus 30 Celsius. Little food. They're regularly soaked in icy sea water. This was wearing the men down physically and mentally. the men reportedly had to have their hands chipped off the oars after a shift as they were frozen solid to the ore
Starting point is 01:25:44 They're in a boat now Yeah so they're in the boat Have they been in a boat for a while? A little while Sorry Come on Maddie You're thinking about deception island I'm pretty sure I did start the sentence with
Starting point is 01:25:54 They're in a boat now Yes Oh that's so I'm just not built for these things Like I know I'd be the one who's like I'm done I'd just like I'd be like McNish
Starting point is 01:26:06 I just lie down in the snow But I wouldn't say I'm not going I was done it ages ago Would have been like You keep going I don't get angry at me I'm just gonna die here
Starting point is 01:26:14 Yeah I'm done I'm fine It's okay I don't want to keep I'm not gonna keep eating A fucking seal backburn No There's flesh
Starting point is 01:26:22 We could eat the flesh I'm not doing it I would just sit on the boat Like going out into the ice That's where it gets fucked You're in a boat at least Just wait till it goes down There's a bed in there
Starting point is 01:26:31 You got DVDs and stuff I'm just hanging out in there I probably would have just stayed in bonus air He was cool. Even better. Yeah. I probably would never have gone.
Starting point is 01:26:40 How about that bloke that strode away? Yeah, what a fuck it. He's like, I didn't have to come here. I probably not getting paid. No one knows where I am. They're probably going to eat me. That was a joke from about a year ago, but it's pretty serious now.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Oh dear, but they like him. They did actually. More than Harry. Oh, Mick Nish, it's not happy. Not popular. On the journey to make things worse, many of the men had dysentery. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:27:08 I just can't imagine how bad that would be. People shitting and vomiting in a boat whilst you're frozen. It would just be, I can't imagine anything worse. Yeah, that would be just awful. And you couldn't look someone in the eye if you'd just want some shit themselves in a boat. Oh, they're in the boat. Oh, no. It's horrendous.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Oh, my God. And it's contagious. Oh, yeah, dysentery is quite contagious. Extremely. Yeah, really contagious. So everyone's going to have it. Definitely. They're just all sitting in each other's shit.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Even if I'm starting to get the gurgles of dysentery. You've already got it, man. Do you get gurgles? That's awful. Someone wrote that the rations got pretty low, and you got one biscuit a day. You quote, you look at it for breakfast,
Starting point is 01:27:51 you suck it for lunch, and then you eat it for dinner. That's a great line. And then you shit on my life. You shit it for dessert. You shit for dessert. And repeat. Oh, no, I couldn't live on a biscuit a day.
Starting point is 01:28:05 I'm hungry right now. Are they got fresh packets again? Are we back into Monte Carlo? Yeah, it's a good biscuit, don't worry. It's a big biscuit. It's one of those giant cookies. Oh. Where are these guys from? Because American biscuits are weird, like hard, woody bread, aren't they? Mostly British and Irish.
Starting point is 01:28:23 They're real biscuits. Cookies. Cookies. Cookies. Biscuits. Yeah. Bickies. Well, Becky. But they don't have any tea. They actually do have tea.
Starting point is 01:28:32 So they've taken that little kerosene burners, so they are having hot drinks. That's actually one of the rare luxuries they have. But then they're shitting themselves. Then they're shitting that hot tea onto each other. Well, it's still hot. It's going right through them. It's coming in hot and going out. Even hotter.
Starting point is 01:28:48 This entry sounds awful. Turns your body into a, like a burner. You'd lose a lot of weight, I guess. Turns your body into an urn. Oh, they'd be ripped. They get back, when they get back at the end of this happy ending that's coming up soon, they're going to get home and their friends and family, I was going to, oh, you look good.
Starting point is 01:29:06 The calendar. Antarctica was good for you. Oh, man. They call it the Shackleton diet. Yeah. Dissentry. You get one biscuit, you get dysentery, and then you swim in cold water every day.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Yep. Do that for a week, babe. It's a great detox. So good. I love it. I'm doing the Shackleton this week. Oh, my God. I did the Scott last week.
Starting point is 01:29:23 I froze the death in my tent. And then I'm going to try lemon detox after that. Woo! The three arrests were tied together, and they're at sea for six days. and six nights. No. A whale swam past one day
Starting point is 01:29:38 and they had to pray that it didn't... That would have been sick. They had to pray that it didn't decide to breach or jump out of the water near them because if it landed on one of the boats because they were all tied together would mean that they'd all go under. Why are they praying?
Starting point is 01:29:49 Just... What did happen? Just shoot the whale. Eat the whale. If so, are they religious? Everyone was back then, I guess. Yeah, definitely. Eventually, they made it to Elephant Island.
Starting point is 01:30:00 They had invented atheism. Oh. The idea of not gone. But they had invented Granny Smiths. For fuck's sake. They hadn't cross-pollinated atheism yet. Please use the correct term. Eventually they made it to Elephant Island, which is an amazing feat in itself.
Starting point is 01:30:18 So six days and six nights at sea. It had been one year and four months since they had touched proper land. So they've been away for that long so far. On arrival, Shackleton thought to give Blackborough, who's the 18-year-old young store away, youngest of the crew, the honour of being the first to step on the island. Forgetting that his feet had been badly frostbitten. He helped over the wall of the boat.
Starting point is 01:30:38 He fell in the shallows and was quickly carried ashore. It's like, you get to go, oh, I forgot you can't walk. He just plants into the cold water. Nobody thought of that like, he shall go for it, sir. No, he shall go. They threw him in. Just watch him sank. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 01:30:56 I backfired. Why did none of you say anything? He doesn't have any feet, sir. I thought you'd be able to tell. The men were absolutely rooted. Tired, cold, shivering, frostbitten, emaciated, shitting everywhere. Some were acting crazy. Shattington.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Shattington. Shattington bear. Says Mr. I don't like poop jokes. And you don't like puns. I don't like either of those. But look at what you've become. This show has ruined me. Some of the men appeared mentally unwelled.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Yeah, no, it's surprising. When one man got to, someone wrote in their diary that one of the men got to, land and immediately with an axe killed ten seals for no reason. Oh shit. How do you do that? Just started chopping. Holy shit. It shouldn't be funny, but it's a little bit funny.
Starting point is 01:31:46 It's crap. It shouldn't be funny, but it's a little bit funny. Huge laugh. I know. I mean, it would be funny to see it and then have to be like, sleep next to that guy that night. But like,
Starting point is 01:32:02 just a... The whole time, she's... shitting. Where's he getting that energy from? I'm going to kill the seals. Not with shit. That's because... Matt, come on to a fart time.
Starting point is 01:32:16 It's real fun. It's because he wanted to kill all the seals because his arseal hadn't been working. He's an ass. Maybe if I sacrifice a seal to the arseal god, he'll stop me, pay with myself.
Starting point is 01:32:33 My decks are well and truly soiled. And it's not like they've got clean underwear. No, they don't have any deal with them. They're in the same clothes, aren't they? Yeah. You wash it out with, like, freezing water. And then put it back on. Oh.
Starting point is 01:32:47 No, thank you. Seriously, I would have just, I reckon, yeah, I wouldn't have got on the boat. And then if I somehow ended up on the boat, it would have been very early in this trip, I would have been like, I'm done. Well, thankfully, both of you said no to the newspaper ad, so you're fine. Thank goodness. You're still tucked in your...
Starting point is 01:33:04 Actually, Matt's probably enlisted to the First World War and has probably died. But I'm probably waiting for my husband to not return. Yeah, that's right. So it's win-win. Win-win, win-win. Yeah, right. But I was at first thinking that it was going to be a thing I went to regret. I thought that was why you were asking it because it was going to be like, yeah, you fell for it.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Yeah, that's right. You just said no to co-founding Microsoft with Bill Gates. You fuck it. Yeah. That was going to be something like. Wanted. Many hours of darkness as Bill Gates is at. You put in the fucking Yale listings.
Starting point is 01:33:39 That's so good They managed to erect their tents And all fell Immediately asleep Yeah, that's good Good, I get a good night's sleep Where they were, however, offered no shelter I mean, they shut themselves in the tent
Starting point is 01:33:54 Yeah, they pooed all night But they were sound asleep Imagine being so tired That you're pooing and you don't even know Is it still night all the time? So there's all this been happening in the darkness No, no, it's day time now It's been so long that they're about to go
Starting point is 01:34:08 into another winter where they were offered no shelter and they again had to move two days later they took the boats back out and landed at a different place on Elephant Island which they named Cape Wild named after second in charge Frank Wild Many of them called it Cape Bloody Wilde Why don't they call it Cape Frank
Starting point is 01:34:29 And then everyone could share in it Everyone gets a go You know? You want to talk about morale? I'll fuck the banjo off, just give the Franks a lot gets a cape. Do I get the next cape? Yeah, I want a cape.
Starting point is 01:34:42 I want a cape. I want a cape. I reckon that's why Mick Nish stopped because he wasn't getting the bowel cape he deserved. He just wanted to be called Frank. Call me Frank. No, your name's Harry. It's already confusing enough.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Call me Frank or I won't take another fucking step. And then he killed ten seals. Is he the one who killed the seals? No, he wasn't. It's not funny, but it's funny. It's crazy. Do you think a seal killing spray? It's a little bit funny.
Starting point is 01:35:09 10 with an axe. It's fucked up. And the rest of them just sit and they're going, well, this is awkward. Do I say something or you might kill me? Exactly. That's the seals? The seals.
Starting point is 01:35:20 The seals. This is awkward. Lay dead. Play dead. They'll never know. So they landed at Cape Bloody Wild, but the weather turned and they landed in sleet and rain by a nightfall of gale blew up, ripping one of the tenses shreds and blowing a lot of their equipment out to sea.
Starting point is 01:35:36 No. The men crawled under the boats for shelter as snow was heaped upon them. The blizzard raged for five straight days. They were just stuck under... Under the boats. It's crazy! This is fucked. How do we know this, though?
Starting point is 01:35:51 The great thing is... Diaries. The elephant island had fresh water and seals to murder and penguins for meat. But it had no other... Wait. You made that sound like... I mean, they'll eat the penguins, but the murdering is just for fun. It's just for fun.
Starting point is 01:36:05 How many seals can you kill with an axe in five minutes? So you're thinking that maybe the survivors and they've told the tale? Or they found the diaries? I'm always assumed they make it. Yeah, at first I got a bit excited thinking survivors, because it's like the Zodiac killer one where you figured out early on that if we knew what had happened, that means somebody remembered it or could recall it.
Starting point is 01:36:31 But yeah, you write diaries. But then, if they found the diaries, that means they at least found. them. Yes. They may have been skeletons. Clutching a diary. But, you know, maybe at least one person
Starting point is 01:36:43 and he just had a bag full of everybody's... You collect everyone's diaries and then they all die. Maybe the kid makes it. Yeah. Not the puppies, though. They're long gone. They're certainly not going to make you just. Let them go.
Starting point is 01:36:55 I can't. Weird numbers. I don't like it. There was no other vegetation on the island, so they're just pretty much stuck to the tiny bit of food they've got left. plus eating seals and penguins. Imagine being vegetarian, or like, gluten intolerant.
Starting point is 01:37:10 I don't think that existed. They hadn't invented that. No. Interesting. Well, they said they had dysentery. I think they were all just celiacs. Shit themselves all fucking know. Oh, all they're in as a bickie.
Starting point is 01:37:20 A bickie. Gluten and that. Eat this bread biscuit. They'll sort you out. Oh, no. No, it's dysentry. Must have dysentry. And they're cooking the meat?
Starting point is 01:37:30 Because they've got the burners. Yeah, they've got the burners. Yeah. And kerosene. With another winter. Parapherns, is they got it? With another winter approaching, which is going to be real cold and really dark again, they did not want to stick around a moment more than necessary.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Shackleton knew that they had, sorry, Ernie, knew that they had no hopes of... It was the first time you've said it. Thank you. Ernie knew they had no hopes of rescue on Elephant Island, because no one ever went by there. So they would have to make a break for another inhabited island. Some islands were close, but they couldn't be reached as the small boats
Starting point is 01:38:00 would have to sail west against the powerful sea and wind, which they couldn't do. to go for a much further away island. It was decided that a small group would leave the party and make a break for Georgia Island, where they'd set off 16 months earlier. Georgia Island was 800 miles or 1,300 kilometres away. Oh shit. They would be sailing in some of the roughest oceans on planet Earth,
Starting point is 01:38:24 all in a tiny, tiny boat. No. So 1300 kilometers. No. That's far. It's 1,900 kilometres. That's past Sydney. The length of the Melbourne Cup.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Several thousand times over. Actually, not that many. Anyway, the South Georgia Party could expect to meet hurricane force winds and waves, known as the notorious Cape Horn rollers, measuring from trough to crest, so from the bottom to the top, as high as 18 metres. Nope. Or 60 feet.
Starting point is 01:38:56 No, but I'm not volunteering for that. That's a high. That's so high. Wave. Are you a surfer? Yeah, yeah, I hang ten. From time to time. Nali.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Nali. No, I don't say rigidage. No, I don't say rigidage. But Matt does. Calabanga. Calabanga. Oh, Kel Banga. I got the imitation Ninja Turtle show.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Yeah. Kelbanga. Calanga. Because they were going to face such harsh conditions, Shackled and Ernie selected the heaviest and strongest of the three boats. A 22 and a half footer or 6.9 meter long ship called the James Cad, named after James Cadd, the guy that had given them like two million pounds. Yeah, that's got to remember,
Starting point is 01:39:40 some of the waves are going to be 18 metres, and the ship itself is only seven meters long. So it's pretty crazy. Shackleton asked the expedition... That's more than double. It's nearly triple if you round down 6.9 to 6. Nah. Hey, believe.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Okay. Ernie asked the expedition's car. A carpenter, former bad boy and rebel Harry McNish, if he could make the vessel more sea worthy. Using improvised tools and materials, Mick Nish raised the boat's sides and built a makeshift deck of wood. So before this has just been an open boat, one of those ones, like you see, one of the Titanic life boats. You know, like a row boat style thing. But it doesn't have a roof. So he built one so they could at least get out of the...
Starting point is 01:40:25 How handy is it having the carpenter all of a sudden? So good. He sealed it with oil paints. He made it into a submarine. And seal blood? Oh, that's great. Which is great because someone killed 10 of them. We've been hanging on to these cocles and not knowing what to do.
Starting point is 01:40:42 I just hate waste. Eat the backbone, throw the rest away. One ton of rock was also added to the bottom of the ship to act as a ballast to stop it from capsizing in the... That's a lot of rock. It's a lot of rock. But then it makes it really heavy. Really heavy.
Starting point is 01:40:56 So that means that when the waves toss it around, hopefully it will stay... Does it not also mean like it's heavier for them to row it? Well, when things float, it's easier Nah When things float, it's easy you're talking about with boats Yeah, it's easier to, you know, it's easier to... When boats float it's easier, is what you're saying? Yep
Starting point is 01:41:16 Disagree Well, a thousand kilos No, I know what you mean, but it would still be a bit heavier, wouldn't it? It's sort of like rowing a boat with just you in it And then rowing a boat with 20 people in it Look, I'm hearing what you're saying? You'd notice a difference right?
Starting point is 01:41:33 I'm hearing what you're saying. I'm going to have to agree that I was wrong. I haven't thought about it. It's fucked. They're fucked. I'm going to run them off right now. I've read the story and I know if they make it or not. And they're fucked.
Starting point is 01:41:48 They're fucked. Because of this. What's the way? I missed something. So they've picked six of them and the other ones they've put in the bin. No, they've left them on Elephant Island and they've formed a camp. And they're going to come back from supposedly. Yeah, so it's like, we're going to make a break for it.
Starting point is 01:42:01 If we get help, we'll come back. So they're splitting the party. Yeah, just like Birkenwills should not have several times. They took ration packs that had been intended for the crossing, because they still had stuff left from one. They were going to go from one side of Antarctica to the other. They got biscuits, bovril, the drink. Bovril, that's beef juice.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Sugar and dried milk. It took 18 gallons of water, two stoves, paraphon, which is kerosene, oil, candles, sleeping bags, and some spare clothing. Shackleton chose of the six men It's Shackleton plus Worsley The experienced navigator And the guy that had given him the biscuit
Starting point is 01:42:41 That makes sense Irishman Tom Crean A badass who had been to Antarctica The last time he went to Antarctica He was with a group who couldn't continue So he walked 56 kilometres In 18 hours without survival equipment To get help for the others
Starting point is 01:42:56 In Antarctica So he's like The kind of guy you want to have in your survival party He actually begged Shackleton to let him come on this extra dangerous bit. So he's like, you know, one of the Monty's. Yeah. D.B. Cooper, super cool.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Super cool, venture lover. Yeah, just loves the dude. I can't relate to that at all. I'm like, no. I'm the guy that's like, yeah, you march ahead. You do 56K and 18 hours. Good luck. Cool, bye.
Starting point is 01:43:26 I'll stay here with my Pokemon cards. Shackleton asks for volunteers, strong sailors. John Vincent and Timothy McCarthy stepped up, so now there's four of them. The last place, place, Shack or Ernie offered to Carpenter McNish. Oh. So Vincent, one of the sailors and McNish, had each proved difficult during the boat journey from the ice to the Elephant Island. They were both somewhat awkward characters, and the selection may have reflected Ernie's wish to keep potential troublemakers under his personal charge rather than with the others where they could start trouble. or maybe he thought McNish was a good guy to have.
Starting point is 01:44:05 No. Trouble maker. Before leaving, Shackleton instructed Frank Wilde, the name Kate Wild after, that he was to be fully in charge as soon as he left. And that should the journey fail, he was to take the party to Deception Island the following spring in their own boat. So if we don't come back in a certain time in a couple of months, you go.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Assume we're dead. That's his thing. Shackleton immediately established an onboard routine, two three-man watches that swapped every four hours around the clock, with one man at the helm, another at the sails, and the third on bailing duty, because they're constantly getting water in the boat, so they're tipping it out over and over and again. The off-watch trio rested in the tiny covered space below. Their clothing, which was designed for Antarctic sledging rather than open boat sailing, was far from waterproof and with repeated contact with the icy sea water
Starting point is 01:45:01 the skin was painfully raw. Oh no. The movement of the ship made preparing hot food on the boat nearly impossible, but Cream, the badass Irishman who acted as cook, somehow kept the men fed. So he's also a cook. So now he is Casey Rybeck, aka Stephen Seaman in Unsea, Waterington 2. Yes, I was thinking the same thing.
Starting point is 01:45:24 The chef, and he's also had knife skills, and it was a Navy SEAL or something and also like just an expert. Yeah, it's so good. Like, it'd been like tough. And then a lady jumped out of the cake but she'd been drugged.
Starting point is 01:45:37 And she jumped out like the day later and it's like, where's the party? And the party was already over. Stupid. And then, and the siege was on. The siege was on. The siege is up.
Starting point is 01:45:48 And then they sort of. And Tommy Lee Jones was the siege. Yeah. Hmm. Well, now I don't need to watch that movie. Thanks, guys. No, you don't. Spoilers.
Starting point is 01:45:57 You mean, thanks, guys. And if you want to watch number two, you don't have to do that either because it's the same thing but on a train. Got it. But fuck, it's good. As they're going on, continuously bailing water out, they only made four land sightings, and Worsley, the navigator, had to calculate everything else from either the sun, which was often behind cloud. And then when that wasn't there, he had to calculate where they were via dead reckoning, which is where you just try and work out how far you travel based on how fast you think you're going.
Starting point is 01:46:26 We were here there 10 hours ago We've probably traveled about 6K an hour We're probably about there Which is pretty inexact Every degree mistake they miscalculated They'd be 60 miles out of their final journey And they only had 10 miles leeway to begin with So you pretty much can't fuck it at all
Starting point is 01:46:44 Otherwise you're going to miss the island And either keep going forever or go on the wrong direction Oh my gosh Jeez After 10 days at sea In this constant 24-7 swapping shifts Warsley calculated they were only halfway there. Two of the men were close to death.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Shagleton often checked the men's pulses, and every time he thought they were too cold or too close to death, he would order a hot drink for everyone, and he would never let the weakest man know that it was on his account that they ordered the drink. So he never singled anyone out to their face. He's really good at keeping morale up, and he's optimistic this whole time.
Starting point is 01:47:22 It's like the big optimist. Wow. Vincent collapsed and had his lip torn away when it got frozen to a metal cup. Oh, you never, yeah, that's like that dumb and dumb I think. Don't lick the metal pole and the cold. Especially in Antarctica. That's pretty cold. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Then one day the men saw seaweed. The next morning there were birds, including a type which were never far from land. So they knew they were close to something. As they approached the high cliffs of the coastline, heavy seas made immediate landing impossible. So for more than 24 hours, they floated off the coast as they waited the wind to shift and they got caught in one of the worst hurricanes any of them had ever experienced. And for all this time, they were in danger of being driven into the rocky South Georgia shore.
Starting point is 01:48:10 When the stormed east lightly, Shackleton was concerned that the weak members of his crew would not last even one more day and decided whatever the hazard, they must risk it and attempt to landing. After several attempts, they made it onto the shore of the shore of the river. South Georgia Island. They'd been at sea for 17 straight days. Nope. No, thank you.
Starting point is 01:48:29 They didn't appreciate it at the time, but that was one of the greatest boat journeys ever accomplished. That's amazing. So, against all odds, they'd made it to Georgia Island, but they realized quickly that they were on the wrong side. The whaling station was on the other side of the island. Oh, fuck. As the party recuperated,
Starting point is 01:48:47 Shackled and realized that the boat was not capable of making another voyage to go around the island. So he decided that Vincent and Mick Nish, who were the least healthy of the men, were unfit to travel further. So he left them. To die. Not to die, just to sort of set up camp. He left him to die. He decided that he, Worsley and Kreen, the badass, would cross the island on foot, aiming for the station on the other side.
Starting point is 01:49:15 The only map they had showed the coastline of the island, but not the island's interior, which at that time was uncharted. The whalers considered the interior of the island impenetrable and no one had ever hiked across it because it was extremely rough terrain pitted with mountains and glaciers so they had no idea what to expect. They tried. McNish, the builder improvised climbing boots with screws that he put into the soles so the men could have more grip.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Is that clever? They would walk at night when the snow was colder and harder and easier to cross. However, they couldn't stop or they would succumb to the cold, so they had to make it in one go. They were two weak to take supplies So they just took some rope That was about it And a bit of food
Starting point is 01:49:55 They set out at 3am under a full moon And calm weather Beneath the snow was ice fields Pitted with crevasses One wrong step And it was goodbye forever Oh shit No I'm done so long ago
Starting point is 01:50:07 You were so long ago I'm like back in England by now Going that was fucked Yeah fuck that As then I turned around Like I left the house I walked out of the street And then I went
Starting point is 01:50:20 Hang on. Actually, nah. And then I turned around. This isn't for me. I said, sorry about that. What were you saying? No, right? Just continued the conversation I was having.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Sorry, sorry. For some reason I thought I'd enlist, but that's not me at all. That's not me at all. Anyway, chin chin-chin. Chin-in-roo. They walked all morning and all day, but found themselves trapped at high altitude on top of a precipice at nightfall, and with temperature dropping, having no sleeping bags, Shackleton said to the others, we've got to take a risk
Starting point is 01:50:50 are you guys game. Oh my God. And a fucking course they were game. This is Crean, the badass. Worsley, the navigator to the stars. They decided to slide down. He does one of those bosses around LA.
Starting point is 01:51:04 Yeah, oh man. And they never miss. See Danny DeVito's house. I imagine. Daddy DeVito may or may not live there. My goodness. A small man lives there. So they decided to
Starting point is 01:51:19 slide down the mountain in near darkness. Slide down. That just sounds bloody fun. That sounds like a good time. They tied themselves to each other with rope, then pushed off with no idea what rocks, cliffs, razor sharp ice or crevasses lay below them. Terrible idea. They finished at the bottom of a bank of snow when they got up,
Starting point is 01:51:40 they realized they'd all made it and they shook hands. Oh my God. It's so English. Gentlemen. Well done, boys. Congratulations on survival. Very good. For the queen, boys
Starting point is 01:51:51 After 26 hours of continuous hiking They decided to have their first rest Ernie realized they couldn't all sleep All at the same time Because sleeping in that temperature was very risky anyway Didn't they say they were going to go in one hit? They wanted to but they decided We'll have a small nap here
Starting point is 01:52:07 He let the other two men sleep for five minutes Before waking them up and telling them They'd slept for half an hour Oh, smart Energised, they set off again Oh, that is smart But Ernie himself has not slept to wink. After a difficult descent, which involved a passage down through a freezing waterfall,
Starting point is 01:52:27 they at last reached safety. At 3pm, they stumbled into the whaling station. They did her. They've been walking for 36 hours. Like, right now, I'm a bit hungry and tired, and I'm just about done. Thinking about these men, honestly, from now and I'm just good. I think I can do a couple more things. Were you about to say anything?
Starting point is 01:52:46 You're like, nah. No, not any. Well, I'm not going to do this, but like, I'm not. be like, oh, can't be fucked. Taking the bin out. It's cold.
Starting point is 01:52:52 I'll be like, Shackleton would do that bin. And then he'd invent a new type of bin. You'd get the dump truck himself. He'd inspire everyone. And then we'll be happy. Just take the bin out. Take the bin out.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Yeah. Yeah, I'll do it. You're right. They stumbled into the whaling station. The men knocked on the whaling manager's door. The manager asked, Who the hell are you?
Starting point is 01:53:13 My name is Shackleton, he said. The men had met before, but the manager did not recognize their dirty, emaciated, frostbitten faces. Also, they'd have the beards, wouldn't they? Yeah. They'd be all beardy.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Well, you'd want that to keep warm. Good call. That's why the women can't go. Exactly. That's why I can't go, because I can't grow a fucking beard. Matt, you are so good for this. I'm in. You're in.
Starting point is 01:53:37 That night, the weather turned. Ernie lay in bed and listened to the snow piling up against his window. Had they been caught in that blizzard, they would have certainly died. Oh, my God. He's in a bed. They had only just made it. He's in a bed. That would feel really.
Starting point is 01:53:50 That would be the best feeling ever. But his men are still out there, and he's, you know, in charge. So he's thinking about them. Ernie, Green, and Worslet rested for three days before setting out for Elephant Island in a borrowed ship. They went back for their friends. Three guys on the other side of the island, McNish and Vincent or whatever, they were picked up and given passengers home. So they went home.
Starting point is 01:54:14 As corpses. No, they lived. Dead. They lived dead They lived dead From now on I shall live dead As a slug I am a slug
Starting point is 01:54:25 Ernie and the boys Were just 60 miles short of Elephant Island In their borrowed ship When they were brought to a stop by the ice Not again They had to go back to Georgia Island Over the next four months That's right, four months
Starting point is 01:54:38 Ernie tried again and again To get to Elephant Island But each time they couldn't get through Imagine that a big boat Can't do what they fluked On a tiny time Oh, shit, and he can't get back to the others. Can't get to them.
Starting point is 01:54:49 And he knows that they're there and he's thinking, are they still alive? What's going on? And how long did he say before they should have a crack at it? He's at a couple of months. So they probably will have maybe already gone from it. Finally, the Chilean government lent the government of Chile. Oh. I think she knew that, just wondering how they came into play.
Starting point is 01:55:11 Oh, they lent Ernie a tugboat. Yeah, again, that's... Oh, okay. Oh, so, yeah, yeah. Because you... They've got a... They're known for tugboat. Yeah, they've got a little tugboat slash government office down there on Elephant Island.
Starting point is 01:55:25 No, Chile is very close to Georgia Island. It's one of the closest countries, so it doesn't make sense. All right. All right, geography. They made it to Elephant Island on their fourth attempt. They were now 10 weeks overdue, not knowing what to expect. What they found, 22 men had survived a sunless winter by living in a hut. made of two overturned boats that they lashed together.
Starting point is 01:55:52 To get water, they would get chips of the ice and put it in a tobacco tin and lie with it overnight, hoping that enough would melt that in the morning they'd have a teaspoon for breakfast. Oh my God. One man had a cooking book at night. He would read one recipe, and the men would listen
Starting point is 01:56:06 and then make suggestions as to how they would improve that meal. The meal they couldn't actually taste. Oh, that sounds like punishing. Yeah, it's kind of torture, but also very cute. Oh, I think just a little bit of mint would be. really bring out the flavors. Fuck off, it's perfect. It's Jamie's. Jamie never gets it wrong.
Starting point is 01:56:26 At one night, one of them wrote in his diary that he would dream of all the second helpings he'd refused at home. Every morning, Wilde, who's in charge, would say, lash up and stall. The boss may come today, boys. But by late August, even he had given up hope. They were preparing to send their own boat, because that's what Shackleton told him to do. Until one day they left the tent and so on yelled, Boat!
Starting point is 01:56:51 On the boat... I wonder what they meant. Pardon? On the boat surveying the beach was Shackleton, who scanned the island with binoculars and counted the men as they came out of the hut. They're all there, Skipper! They're all safe! Oh my God! It had been one of the most incredible journeys in history,
Starting point is 01:57:08 and not a single man had died. No way. All of them made it back. What the fuck! Isn't that amazing? That was not the ending. I was expecting. I know. Jess, could you please...
Starting point is 01:57:19 remember Mrs. Chips, three puppies and six slugs. Four puppies. Rest in peace. Four puppies, sorry by that. If it was three puppies, it'd be fine because they don't have 70 dogs. Also, where are the dogs? Oh, they ate most of them. There are no dogs left, right?
Starting point is 01:57:36 All the dogs are eating. Oh, that's gross. Oh, dear. Just as the postscript, Shackleton himself finally arrived back in England, the 29th of May, 1917, having no idea that World War I was still going to going on. Remember, they left like two weeks in and like three years later, it's still going. Wow. Because of the war, his story was barely noticed at the time. That's bullshit. He did a few speaking engagements, but then mainly was lost. It's only over the last sort of
Starting point is 01:58:02 50 years that his story has come back into popular folklore. Outside of his lifetime. Yeah, definitely. When did he die? Well, I'll get to that. Many of the men enlisted when they returned home, so they went straight to the... I don't know. I bet the Irish man did. Oh, he definitely Two of the men died in the war, including Timothy McCarthy McCarthy, who's one of the guys that made that final boat journey. Wow. So he survived all of that. He was killing a war. Why would you enlist?
Starting point is 01:58:31 Because they were pretty brave young guys. Yeah, obviously. Wow. On Shackleton himself's recommendation, all but four of the men were awarded polar medals. Oh, Harry missed out. Tell me how he missed out. Despite his efforts to prepare the boat and sail on that final journey, the builder McNishers, rebellion earlier was not forgotten
Starting point is 01:58:49 and he was denied the medal. Fuck off, Harry! That feels that feels a bit rough to me. As was John Vincent also on the final journey who had his lip fucking torn off. Didn't get a medal. But was he the other sucky one? I think he was. Well, on that final journey, he was the one
Starting point is 01:59:06 that was closest to death and he was not pulling his way as much, but he was fucking dying. He was the one that was also offered the position because he was a bit of a trouble making. Yeah, he was a bit of a troublemaker. Yeah, there you go. And the carpenter built the boat so they could survive that last. Come on.
Starting point is 01:59:19 Come on, man. He really pulled his... And a lot of the other guys said that was a bit harsh, because even though he arced up that day... One day. He probably fucking saved him. Wow. That's fucked.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Two other guys didn't get the medal. Shackleton never publicly disclosed while there's two men missed out on the medal. He just decided. Just didn't like him. Just kidding. For me, looking into him, that didn't seem like they'd done anything wrong,
Starting point is 01:59:41 but I'm not sure. Just give them all the fucking medal. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, my God. Shackleton himself organized one final Antarctic expedition in 1921 a few years later, the goals of which were imprecise. Many of the crew of the endurance signed up again
Starting point is 01:59:54 to go back with him. What? He must be an amazing leader. And they would have felt indestructible, probably. Yeah, that's true. If we lived through that, Shackleton made it back to South Georgia Island, that final island,
Starting point is 02:00:07 but there he had a heart attack and died. Oh. His wife requested he'd be buried on the island. He was only 47 years old. Oh, wow. Looking at a lot of these guys, died in their 40s, 50s and 60s. And I think if you live like that for
Starting point is 02:00:21 three years, it definitely must take its toll, right? Yeah. Wow. Now, final note, in 2004, a life-size bronze statue of Mrs. Chippy was placed on the grave of Mick Nish who was very fond of the cat by the New Zealand Antarctic
Starting point is 02:00:37 Society in recognition of his efforts on the expedition. I think they felt that he should have gotten some sort of middle. So they gave him a statue of a cat. Well, he was sort of his cat. Yeah, but like, it's not a metal, is it? It's a fucking statue of a cat. He's also very dead.
Starting point is 02:00:52 Also, statue of him. I will probably be the first to go of us. So please don't put a statue of a cat. Really? On my grave. I'll take Jess's cat. You can have it. You can have it.
Starting point is 02:01:04 It's all yours. Enjoy. Do you have a cat, Jess? No. Well, yeah, I would not very little. I don't have anything, Matt. I forget. We'll make a statue of that.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Thanks. How about this? You cool with this year? February 2011, Mrs. Chippy was featured on a posted stamp issued by South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. Not also don't like that. Fuck the cat. Don't, I mean, don't fuck the cat.
Starting point is 02:01:27 They killed the cat. They didn't fuck the cat. Well, maybe they left that out of the diary. There was a diary entry that had been ripped out that day. You probably wouldn't, I guess. Anyway, just fuck the cat. And on that note, that is the story of Shackleton's
Starting point is 02:01:42 endurance. Did that report go for nearly as long as they were stuck on. That was so long, but it was so interesting. Probably our longest one. And I will say that I have a, my first that I came across this story was in primary school. I was in a choir. It was quite a, for a primary school choir, it was very good. Actually won a lot of competitions against adults. It was, anyway. Are you thinking about Sister Act 2 back in a habit? Yeah, were you in Sister Act 2? I haven't seen. A couple of you both, one of the chances of you both sing Sister 8 2.
Starting point is 02:02:14 It's a big movie. Oh my God, it's a great movie. Number 2? Yeah. Happy Day. And Rueke Goldberg's like, come on, you can do it. And then he belts it, and the whole school's like, what? Yeah. Isn't it? It's like Quentin Tarva, maybe?
Starting point is 02:02:28 And Lauren Hill? Lauren Hill's there. Can I tell my choir story? Joyful, joyful love, we adore thee. Anyway, so I was in this prime school choir, and we worked with a musical composer. This guy called Stephen Leak, and he used to write these, like, concept pieces. with like full orchestras and full choirs. And he wrote this one with the school.
Starting point is 02:02:51 So we would suggest lyrics and stuff for it. And it was called Endurance. And it was about the story of Shackleton. Cool. And it went on to be a number one hit in Australia and New Zealand. Dave's a millionaire. You got the Royal Chia. Yeah, number one.
Starting point is 02:03:04 I'm a millionaire from the Australian aria charts. Good luck. Anyway, so I've just, but I was only like 10 years old at the time. So going back to this story, I was, oh man, And I've got to say Tim Robertson on Facebook. When that came through, I was like, I remember this. That's amazing. So, Tim, thank you so much.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Thanks, Tim. All right, guys, I know it's been a long episode, but we've got one last thing to do, and that is to say thank you to everyone who supports us via patreon. Patreon, patreon.com slash do go on pod to keep the pod rocking and rolling. And as I thank you to the people that do that. We have never rocked nor rolled. Watch me roll. Dave, so is.
Starting point is 02:03:44 He's rolling, man. It looks like I'm humping in an office. Humping. Humping. Everybody's humpin. All right. We want to say thanks to everyone who's keeping us
Starting point is 02:03:55 humping and rolling. Nope. Hey, can I kick this off? Because I want to thank a very special someone out there. Who? Do you mind?
Starting point is 02:04:04 Not at all. Oh, please. Take a moment here to thank my main man Mr. James Roy, the Roy boy. James Roy. Sounds like a blues singer
Starting point is 02:04:14 from the 60s. Oh, he's so much more than that, to me, he's the wind beneath my wings. Wow. He lifts me up and he lifts me up. And he makes me feel good about myself and what I'm doing what I'm about. And I think that, you know, I can't say enough about this guy. That's great.
Starting point is 02:04:36 He's my beautiful Roy boy. Beautiful Roy boy. Happy birthday, Roy boy. That's his birthday as well. I don't know, but it could be. It will be at some point. I love to roll the ties. $1,365, chance.
Starting point is 02:04:49 That's a pretty good chance. 366, he was born on February 29. Royboy. I always feel a lot of pressure, because you guys always have such great, you know, ways to thank people. And I'm really bad at it, like I made a riddler joke.
Starting point is 02:05:08 That was really bad. I'm surprised at Robert Riddell, who you made the riddle of a joke, hasn't withdrawn his patron. Yeah, but, well, he hasn't yet, but there's always time. Maybe he hasn't heard the terrible joke yet. I think he has.
Starting point is 02:05:18 I think he tweeted. Anyway, the person that I would like to thank, and you know what? I'm going to come clean and say that I didn't even think of this joke. Don't come clean. Just go again. Just do it. The person that I would like to thank
Starting point is 02:05:34 is a very special member of our expedition on our way to the Antarctic podcast awards. The biggest awards. in the podcasting community. Fact. Fact. And I feel like in our boat, he would be the one,
Starting point is 02:05:54 we'd be checking our pulse, and then be going, oh, Matt's no good. But we're all going to have a cup of tea, and Matt's not going to know he's the weakest link. What a summary. That's just the type of spirit of the one and only Douglas Whiteside.
Starting point is 02:06:10 Douglas Whiteside. He does sound like it could definitely be a character from this story. Yeah, you've got your shackletons. You've got your Scott. You've got your Mawson's and your white sides. He would definitely rock that boat. Oh, he'd rock it good. But he'd have been in a nice way.
Starting point is 02:06:24 Yeah. You know who someone... Respectfully. Someone else who rocks it in a nice way. Who's that? Now, in Australia, we've famously got Carly Minogue. Yeah. We've less famously got Danny Minogue.
Starting point is 02:06:34 Uh-huh. And we have their long-lost distant cousin by marriage, because they have a completely different last name. I'd like to thank Chloe Cronogue. Chloe Cronoak. See, that's great. I just wish I could be as good as you guys. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 02:06:53 But in all seriousness, Chloe Kronok, thank you so much for supporting the show. Thank you to James Roy and thank you to Douglas Wideside. If you two would like to have your name read out and a terrible joke made by Matt Jess or I. I'm trying to think of a single Kauleman Ogg song. Help me out. What's the one about the chance?
Starting point is 02:07:08 I'd be so lucky to get you out of my head. I could be so lucky as to have Kronogue in our life. weren't you singing locomotion before? was trying to, was I? That's Kylie. Come on a locomotion. No, lost it.
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