Do Go On - 70 - Marie Laveau, The Vodoo Queen of New Orleans.

Episode Date: February 22, 2017

This week, we dip into the Golden Hat once again and explore the legend of the Voodoo Queen of New Orleans. Was she one of the good guys? Was she a bad guy? Did she possess powers, or was she just confident? All that as well as the usual amount of shit talk.Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Really you enjoy the sneak back to both of us speaking at all the same time. I think it's very funny because it completely irritates you and Matt and I enjoy that. I was just befing out some of the keywords, you know, like a hot man. You were in the song 500 miles just to be the mat. No, I'm wrong, man. What song was that? I was thinking about like, Beastie Boys. Don't you tell me to stop? But I would have also said stop.

Right, all right. All right, let's try that. My name is Dave. Dave. Oh, no, I don't. And I'm here with Matt Stewart. Stewart. And Jess Perkins. That's why I will never be the Beastie Bulls. I was right with that song because one of them sings it a bit like just to be the man who walked and then the other one comes in and they sing together a little bit. That's what I'm La da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da How we go the boys are good boy. This boy is in love

That's a song it is a song. I can't the pan the panics the presets Not relevant and apologetic You're not in love well. I'm always in love with Tism The thank you to football club in the Meredith music festival as you do well The big three the big three like a already a musical thing music festival as you do well. The big three. The big three. It's just like a already a musical theme episode.

If you've looked at the title and you thought it couldn't be that musical, well, it is. You're wrong. You're wrong. Well, it could be musical. I don't know what we're going to talk about this week. You don't know. You don't know. You don't know.

Shit, Warnicky. Don't you? I'm sorry, I just got really aggressive. It's very hot still. Oh my god, it's been like. It's just like 45 plus or a week. No, it has it, but it's dipped like a few times like right in the gap between pods.

It's crazy, isn't it? Yeah, but I want to say. There was a couple of weeks where Monday was super hot and then there'd be a cool change and the rest of the week would be like mid-20s. Did you notice that at all? It's like the Monday would be like high 30s and really humid and awful.

And then there'd be a storm and there'd be a cool change overnight. And then the rest of the week would be okay It happens like two or three weeks in a row. I once got my hair cut by talking about my hair cut again By a lady and she was trying to tell me how I'm I know it's always hot on Mondays and then and I was thinking This is not so with the words. Yeah, it's when I was kind of And I thought that was one of the silliest conversations of my life You know that, that is pretty nutty, you know how it's always hot on Monday It's always hot, not what I said

I just said in the last few weeks But it just reminds me of that moment But you can't tell the person that's half a through cutting your hair What they're saying is quite silly You can't be like, no you're more wrong It's like one of the texts that you drive starts being racist. You just have to try and, you know, small and odd.

Well, just try and give them so little that they pick up on the fact that you don't share these views. But you can't be like, look mate, shut up. And then it's just you and I'm on my own. I just get intimidated. So I just sort of go, mm-hmm. But as soon as they drop you off and you've like,

you're already half out the door. You're just like, your idea's a factor. And what you're saying is incorrect and you should have a good hard look at yourself. Thank you Bye, all the before the backseat come back He's gone. Yeah. Look what I try and do is have an open dialogue with the driver Yeah, but you would cuz you're old. Yes, you're that age I'm confident. Yeah, we're young and naive. I mean, I'm about to die I got nothing I lose. Yeah, what's he gonna do? Hit an old man. Yeah, I don't think so come on mate I can't get a jail mate

I just can't I can't I won't not again. I won't you know what you know is something that Racist cab drivers are not into what's that? racist cab drivers are not into. What's that? A resulting old white man. That's the last thing that we do. They're all about the old white man and what they believe in. Yeah, true.

So, but what about a young white man, such myself? I don't know. Not about him. Is that a gray area? You're a gray area, yeah. Thank you. Much like Matt's gray area. He's pure and much like Matt's.

Oh, hang on. He's entire pubic region, which is as grey as Gandalf. I'm a silver fox in the pubic region. Just in the pubes which is weird. I call my dick the silver fox. Also weird that we know that. I know it's very close on this. It's very hot and we are very free and naked very naked Matt do you dye your beard? my my dick beard yeah You dye it great you got started it you dye your dick beard great. Yeah, haven't you seen that new product? It's like a silver it's silver spray paint. I thought new it's actually been out for a while I think that's quite tough. It was relatively new to me. You should not be sparing it on you. My dick looks like the tin man Relatively new to me. You should not be sparing my dick looks like the tin man

If I only had a hardy often things I only had a hard Yeah, if I only could get hard That was a weird way to start Oh, you guys took it there. Yeah, I did Lesson learned thank you for teaching me that important lesson. I regret nothing Except not telling the taxi driver that he was wrong Yeah, sure and for not telling that woman she was an idiot for thinking all Mondays are hot No, I just felt a bit sorry for it to be honest. She was thinking that Mondays are really hot. No

That's not a thing. You know how what is cool. You know like no This is how the conversation would have gone if you said not that's not really That's not how it works. It should have now, but you know what I mean That's what would have happened Yeah, instead I said and then I went home and I tweeted about it like she was medium and I got a couple like two favorites And I felt great to favorites like I was really changing the world cop that head She probably doesn't Twitter because she probably has a life outside of it No, she doesn't have the weather app because she doesn't need it because it's always hot on

Mondays and it's always cold on Thursday. What about the days in between? How do you know? Do I need a jacket? Do I wear something with sleeves? Yes. Do I need to shave my armpits? What I like to do is wear clothes that are all zippable so you can zip down as much as you want. So you've got zip every inch of your sleeve and hand. But they're all button off like basketballs where? So it is rip off layers as I need to. That's great, it's really efficient. It is in a lot of ways. But it takes me hours to get dressed in the morning. You got a pinnacle back together. And there was a malfunction on the podcast, and that's how we know about your... ...serva folks.

Yeah, Tin Man dish. LAUGHTER I don't know. It's an on that note, Jess. Shall we ask you, what topic you will be reporting on today or a question you'll use to get us into? Well, I'd like to mention firstly, that this is a golden hat suggestion.

I won't say who from... Oh, golden pub. Golden hat suggestion. I won't say who from... Golden pube. Golden pube suggestion. Beautiful. Okay, so for some of our Patreon listeners who don't know, over a certain amount, they get put... Their suggestions get put into a special hat. I like it. It sort of seems like we're being vague about it,

but Jess and I just don't fully know. Dave is much more on top of this. Also, no, actually, I know it's over 25 But it's the Sean Bird Club. It's a Sean Bird Club There's only 10 people in the club I don't suggest topics that we have to do a reporter but Matthew because I If there are a number of factors Don't I like to mention dollar amounts because that's it's like it's putting them above everybody else and that's not fair

Because we're all one big happy family Yeah, no, I agree everyone's everyone's equal and this but these guys are superior. Yeah, it's a purely equal This is a is this a suggestion The Seineberg group on that little sign Seineberg Oh boy is there's ten max in there right someone left it Oh boy, there's 10 max in there, right? Someone left it, not too long ago, and was replaced almost instantly.

I love it. I love that. Does someone have like, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. Can you have another look at that? I don't know if you can, but I like that. Bang in there, and I took that 10 point. Like they happened to look and,

which is like, it's my time to shine. So funny. That's great. It's my time to shine, Burke. Oh, very good. Very good indeed. So my question to you is, who is the voodoo queen of New Orleans? Oh, I saw this topic. This is by Max Anderson. Yeah, very good.

I have never, I don't know what that means at all, but it was in his Message and I can't remember it was a lady. It's a lady. What's the Queen? Dave. Have you ever heard of the voodoo Queen? It was with the second. Yes That right no, I mean it actually never heard of the voodoo queen of New Orleans. Yeah, it's kind of fun The first things that is such a good name We've talked about this a lot on the show how a good name can go a long way. Yeah, it's kind of fun. But those things that is such a good name, we've talked about this a lot on the show how a good name can go a long way. Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Well, I will tell you that because this is suggested by Max, who is a long-term listener and friend of ours. Hello, Max. Hello, Max. And was a nice suggestion. As a

belated birthday gift to Max's boyfriend, Jake, who also tweets to us quite a bit, Jake Sullivan, hello Jake. Hello Jake. This is so good. This is so good. We're sorry that I think about this sort of early January and we're- I love the idea of this as a birthday present. Yeah, it's so good because didn't Jake get Max onto do the one?

Yeah, that's what it is. No, it's not. I like it. I like when I hear, oh, when people let us know that like they listen to it with friends or with their partners or something That's really fun. Like we had an email of this couple who will like sit and have dinner together and listen to the podcast And it's kind of like we're having dinner with them. It's really nice. They must have like some an eight-course meal sometimes on the show because it's too well.

Sorry. Maybe it's like a week's worth of dinners. Oh wow. Because we do talk for a long time and we're sorry about that, but also not sorry. We're sitting in a really hot studio to do it, so you're welcome. I'm really turned then. Well, Andy, what did you often do? No, I think I don't have a set this before, but my personal favorite podcast, The Longer and then anyway, so that's why I sort of get it.

And we did put it out of the people once and they... Yeah, what do you want? Almost unanimously voted for longer. Yeah, what do you want almost unanimously voted for longer? Yeah, well not not two hours like bloody Ernie. They did say an hour and a half plus So yeah, two houses and hour We did yeah, there was no voting for two plus hours But anyway, shall I tell you a little bit about the voodoo queen of New Orleans? Yes, please do you say New Orleans on New Orleans? I would say New Orleans in this because it runs with Queen It sounds awesome exactly and also I think it's just our accent. I believe that over there

They're more like the new Orleans or no I heard no more of it when I was there I don't know if that was locals or new Orleans Louisiana. Oh cool That is super cool. I feel like I'm part of some sort of cool club. Now that's it We don't really have nicknames for any of our states. Tazzy maybe. Tazzy. It's Tazzy. It's Tazzy. Apart from that, we don't really nickname anything. Yeah. Vicki.

They've got- They've got- People have got, like the people who come from states have nicknames, like banana benders, I think is Queenslanders. Banana benders. Banana benders. San groupers. Uh, Western Australia. San groupers. Croweaders are South Australians. Uh, Europa's, uh, Western Australia. Santa, growpers.

Croweaters are South Australians. That makes sense, I guess. We get called Mexicans, is that our thing? Yeah, that's a weird. That's Queenslanders who often call us Mexicans. Queenslanders call yourself the South of the border. That makes them, I never got it. So you think of yourself as the United States?

Why? That would be Queensland Canada. No, no, I reckon it's the dominant. So you think of yourself as the United States? Why? Why? Canada. No, no, I reckon it's the dumbest. And it's meant to be like, it's also meant to be like a put down. Oh yeah. It's a white. Oh, you're Mexican, like not.

It's a good, it's a great. Yeah, it's a, it doesn't make, it's the weird, I don't get it at all. So I'm going to back Queensland. We've got some Queensland listeners. I want to know if this is true, but it seems like they're more influenced by America than other places. So remember you got like, they got Hollywood on the gold coast Which is an American thing

And then they've got like I think they've got towns called stuff like Palm Springs and and other sort of a like Miami. There's Miami and Whereas I think Victorian things that seem to be more named only brought in and Yeah, Richmond although everywhere's got a fucking Richmond Anyway, this is such a tedious That was all track just about an Australian city is that Perth is the most isolated Capital city in the world. Did you learn that from a Twita Senate recently? No, I learned that from my friend is from Perth

Oh, that's interesting I tweeted that last week. Oh Hmm, there you go. I learned that from a fear factory video that was filmed in Perth and I started a capital city. How do fear factory reference that in a music video? The status is a Perth the most isolated capital city in the world or something like that or it was I saw the making up because I bought that album Anyway, that doesn't matter. And if 5.3 fans out there. No one's answering back. No one in here. No one in here, that's for sure. That's for sure.

Good band. It's a cool name, I must admit. So yeah, well, I'll say New Orleans and I want to apologize from the from the top that if I pronounce anything incorrectly, obviously there's a lot lot of French you'd have to call it the quen of New Orleans To make it right. I love the rhyme queen of New Orleans. Yeah, it's good The New Orleans Quinn Quinn has many is also known as the apple oil. I just remembered apple oil wine It's like an apple. That's a big apple place. They grow a lot apples. Also. it looks a bit like an apple. Yeah, I like that as an nickname. Apple, I was cute. For a while, a Victoria was known as the Garden State, which is a rip off an American

state, I'm pretty sure. And Western Australia has also been known as the Golden State, which is the same as California. So I think Australia does do that. I mean America is the center of the world, so it can't make sense that we're still references from all the time. Anyway, like my hero, Homer Simpson always says, do go on. So yeah, I may get some some French wrong and I'm sorry and Max, I really hope I do this justice for you because I'll be honest I was researching this with the migraine and- Look Jesse, if you don't know how to say it just say bobo bobo

Exactly perfect So, known as the voodoo queen of New Orleans this was a title Marie Levo So good Not only earned but to this day has not relinquished she is still considered the voodoo queen of New Orleans. In fact, the crypt where she's buried, spoiler, she did. The crypt where she's buried, instant Lewis, cemetery. Oh shit, I've visited her grave. Have you?

Yeah. Have you really? You didn't remember? Yeah, that's so bad. What a hell. I'm the worst traveler. You're the worst traveler ever. You don't go to the rock. I did, but I went to this one. I just, I don't, I just remembered. Alcatraz, he didn't go like the van Gogh museum, but you went to this lady's grave. I didn't remember her name when we said that. Oh, that she existed

at all. So tell me about the e-journey. Yeah, tell us about it. Tell us about your trip. I was just, it's the kind of thing. You just did a report. A lot of my traveling right is, it's day by day. I don't plan it out. Is drinking related. Well, some, yeah, often. Was it crippled? And your lanes is pretty good for that, so. But it's where I'm staying, especially I'm traveling.

I was there with one of a friend, another mate. And we, you know, we get up and you meet people the whole style and just go with the flow with what they were doing, whatever. So people were going there day. I was like you know you're a sheep basically a sheep So basically you're the guy with the flow guy sure Because long as that flow is on tap yeah That's great. Yeah, I'll take a look at Alcatraz Is there a pub? I'm probably gonna be at the pub see you after

So yeah, but yeah, honestly if someone said that day Is there a pub? No, I'm probably going to be at the pub. See you after. See you. But yeah, I've been honestly, if someone said that day, let's go to Alcatraz, I may, that may be the reason why I'd go to a place, which is not the best way to travel. You should probably have some plan. I like the idea of going with the flow, but maybe I'm too committed to that. And it means I don't miss things that maybe I should see. But I still have no regrets. San Francisco was such a good time, and I don't, I miss things that maybe I should see. But I still have no regrets.

San Francisco was such a good time, and I didn't see anything. Great. But I saw some great pubs, had some great food, and saw some really good bars as well. Well, did you know that you saw the seals? You inadvertently visited what is believed to be the most haunted cemetery in America?

Yeah, I think someone probably mentioned that So you went there and it was it was daytime If you remember her was a cool. It was a cool grave. There was I can't I can't really I can't Heres was either like very small. No, it was either really big or really small It's pretty big. I will talk about was anyone else famous in there. I don't know possibly probably I didn't do a report on the cemetery I did report on for real. I'm so sorry to Jake and max say sorry to max. I mean max say sorry to max Max gave this to Jake But sorry to you as well Max. Fuck these gift you fucked it.. I did. Boy like, I'm just, I'm two sentences in, you fucked it.

Oh you're right mate. I'm pretty excited for this one. It's pretty interesting. So visitors of the cemetery claim to have seen the ghost of the voodoo queen herself inside the cemetery, walking around tombs in her trademark turbine while whispering a santeria voodoo curse

to disrespectful gorkers. If you visit a grave, you'll notice that people still leave offerings. There's candles, flowers, voodoo dolls, all in the hope that she will bestow her supernatural blessings. When people make a wish at her tomb, they return if their wish comes true and leave three X marks as a sign of their gratitude. Do you remember that at all? It's like a big white plaster tune. And they'll just be like red exes.

Ah, it's a magnet. It's a wrap. Three. What did you wish for? I don't practice Santa Rhea. I ain't got no crystal ball. Right. OK.

If I had a million dollars, I'd spend them all. Is there a great supply I wanted? It's one of my favorite songs. It's great, sorry. I lost you at Santa, I didn't know. Like you just didn't hear the rest of it. Yeah, cool. That song just started to kick around. Do you remember there being any red cross marks on this grave that you remember walking around? Were you day drunk? No, not necessarily.

So probably not. I was probably more likely hung over. But someone leave her an offering of a bottle of alcohol and you just thought you'd drink it. Yeah. That's why you're cursed. I mean, I went to it. I would definitely went to a cemetery there and some people were saying there's a famous person here and we should all look at it. It was a symmetry. I was semi creeped out.

It was the 70s. I've started to get it after that trip but at that stage I was like I don't really like walking around semiches. I did it just to have done it and then... I think it's something you start to do at your age. When I went to Edinburgh I went out to towns at my Ancestors lived in the Stuart's lived in and went went around this tiny village cemetery and it was just packed out with Stuits Wow, yeah, so that kind of stuff I find interesting, but But now yeah, but now I would probably maybe it is definitely an older person thing now that I'm a retiree When I was in Ireland now that I'm on the a grey nomad, I'm starting to get into that because I guess we you know

I'm gonna be there. Oh you know when he's evolving pension to pension you need free activities. Yeah, yeah You got it the gray you know Seem after three and possibly might see some of your friends exactly. Yeah, it's good to visit on the way in or the way out Hey, okay, um, so little is known with certainty about the life of Marie Catherine Levo As for the date of her birth popular sources often say 1794 But the records actually indicate 1801 so let's just say 1801 but possibly a little bit before that. Okay She was a free woman of color and she was born in New Orleans on September 10, 1801, we're gonna say. She was the illegitimate daughter of a free man of color and a creole mother and historians believe that Marie's

mother and grandmother were both voodoo practitioners. This is all kind of like it's all a little bit disputed. She seems to be this kind of like a mythical, not mythical, but you know like a bit of a legend. So, I'm total legend. In 1819, at the ripe young age of 18, Lavo married Jacques Paris. What's your name? Jacques Paris. I'm going to call you Jacques Paris. I'm going to call him Jacques Paris for the rest of of this. So she married, she's on the young. She's 18, she's married to Jack Paris. She has two children, both of which are believed to have died young. Now her husband also passed away under mysterious circumstance.

Suspicious? Is that what you're implying? Mysterious, I suppose. What I said, you can read into that whatever you would like. I'm reading Suspicious. Mysterious. By the time she was in her 20s, she was known around town as the Widow Paris, and this name would also be etched onto her tomb, which as we sort of mentioned before, is quite a popular tourist attraction. There's a little bit of speculation as to what her sort of jobs were.

The only evidence that exists of any sort of occupation was that she was a liquor importer. But others, there's sort of a few different jobs. At some stage, people said she ran a brothel, but then others say that brothel wasn't a brothel. It was actually a house where unmarried pregnant women could come and like have their kids in a safe place and then Marie would help them put their kids up for adoption and stuff So it was a bit strange. Did you pay your respects Matt because she was a famously career importer? Yeah, that would be fun. Cheers to you. This is my kind of lady. After the deck of Jack, folklore says Marie.

You said deck. I thought it was the deck of Jack. Sorry. That's the whole deck of Jack? Sorry. That's the whole deck of cards. But at the time I said I cried, I'd brought this fear to all. You're both like, what? And I meant wedding, but in a way, same thing.

And I'm alright. Yeah. This life's boring. That's our ladies, man. I mean, yeah. After the death of Jack, folklore says Marie became a hairdresser, and most of her clients were wealthy white socialites which allowed her to be privy to the myriad of rumors and gossip that floated around the

French quarter. She could also suddenly predict the weather. Great accuracy. She was like how weird a hot Monday. Monday, Thursdays always cool. Always, chilly. Always, without a doubt. So she got the hot gossip. She's got literally ahhh, get it like, without a doubt. So she got the hot gospel.

She's got literally, uh, get it like a hot weather anyway. Yeah. Let me just tell you, my hot takes on hot Mondays. So this means that, because she's like a hairdresser, and everybody chats to the hairdresser, women in particular, you'll chat for hours. Sexist. She's a tracer.

Oh yeah, oh my god, yes. My sister-in-law is like one of the chatiest people in the world. Oh, yes, so that's sister-in-law, but like, she's open up to strangers that much. Oh, yeah, oh my god, yes my sister-in-law is like one of the chatiest people Okay, so that's sister-in-law, but like she's open up to strangers that much Oh, women, but I mean like women especially it's just small talk. It's just stretched over two possibly three hours Yeah, but it's cool. I'm not saying like okay, and and tell me about your first marriage Like I'm not it's not quite deep and meaningful, but it's like you talk a lot. I quite like I I find I'm relaxing when I get I'm done. I kind kinda like the no chat hairdresser. Well, would you go to like a barber?

But I do go to my friend the barber and we definitely do chat. So there you go. I'm a bit annoyed that since I... Do you still get kids, right? I fucking wish. You're looking at a $50 haircut. And it wasn't even that good. Mate, don't talk to us.

That haircut. Yeah, I'm sorry. That's at least a 50.000 Thanks mate. Oh I can't turn. You know how they're always so talking they you know they want to talk about something since I actually got my first ever like proper job like actually you know you used to be like yeah you have to explain that I did trivia nights or that I wrote trivia questions and now could be like yeah work at a TV show like something cool to say no one's asked me. I'll find that I reckon I prefer to give the tedious jobs. The tedious one. I never say I do comedy. That's what I mean I would never say comedy.

No I never say comedy. But if you say I work in you know TV but that's something I'll lead to some more questions. I like I miss going out of the day. The question goes somewhere that's what I mean you can kill the my haircuts quite, but still I got something to kill for 20 minutes. I used to be like yeah Right, right, true of your questions. I'm like, oh cool. I Like to flip it go. What do you do? Oh? Very good. I know and then yeah, depending on what it is, then we just chat about them for a bit That's great talk about them. So this is obviously just your hobby. What do you really do? Yeah, what's your passion? What do you really want to do? This is obviously

just for now. And they're like, oh, I mean, head just for 15 years. This is obviously this is on a career. Yeah, what do I mean, nobody would do this. Now, here's a great, I'm going to headcut and a great passion. If that's what you want to do, that's a sick idea. That's a great skill. You got, there's creativity and using scissors and it's basically. There's hair on your head, hair on your face. Are we just justifying the existence of hairdressers? I don't think anybody had a problem with them. No, no, I reckon I'm going to let them live.

Good for you. Live and let live. Good for me or good for hairdresses. A bit of colonel, a bit of colonel. Good for hairdresses everywhere. But I will say that they all seem to win awards. You drive past every hairdresser, it's like, hairdresser of the year 2016. A lot of bakeries.

Yeah, bakeries are the world's best. I try to call I, or best vanilla sloth. That's why. That's why. That's why. That's why. That's why. That's why.

That's why. That's why. That's why. That's why. That's why. That's why. That's why. That's why. That's why. That's. Oh, nobody cares. That's the same thing.

Anyway, because she... So many good bakeries out there. Because she's a hairdresser to all the wealthy socialites, she gets access to a wealth of information. From both the elite women she serviced, services of Weedwood, to their servants and slaves, she was able then to convince people that she was a voodoo priestess with mystical powers

Right, so she'd be like yeah, so how things going in your in your love life also? I've got magical powers. Yeah, she was dropping into conversation. Hey, you know around this time John Wilkes Booth dad Came over to from England and became the biggest actor in America. I wonder if they saw each other Definitely these two things are from the same youth as this. There's no information to prove otherwise. You're not gonna assume yes. I'm gonna cut it. She cut his hair.

Oh my god. Big time. And then she made him a big actor. Sorry. There was something in it for her. Where the hell is this? Um, she then entered, she basically, she got into a relationship. They call it a common law marriage,

which is very cute. This guy's name was, oh man, it's long Lewis Christoph Dominic Dominie the Glapillon But she did not take that name when you said when you said long you kind of made it sound like it was gonna be long That's a bit disappointing just I'm so sorry that one two three four four names wasn't enough They apparently had seven children together unfortunately only two of her children survived past childhood.

You know, let's believe that we actually gave birth to about 15 children, which is a bit strange. And only I think only one like survived to adulthood. I don't know what I don't know. I don't have any information on the odds I'm very good there. What happened with the kids, but yeah Her daughter plays a pretty big role later in the story. A bit of fun for you. Now, of the way, magical career, there's a little bit that can be sustained. Sort of like what I said at the start. There's kind of speculation of all this different accounts of the story.

So we still talking about a hairdresser as a magical career or her career of magic. Her career of magic. Her magical haircut in career. Hey, what are you saying? The hairdresser's as a magical career or her career of magic. Her career of magic. Her magical haircut in career. Hey what are you saying? The hairdresser's kind of magical career. That's what we were talking about. You have got some weird issues with hairdresses. What happened? Just because she said Mondays were hot just once. When you say magical career, she started doing it as a job. Like as entertainment or as to help people. Not magic like pulling a rabbit out of that. No I know but yeah that's what I'm wondering. As a career so she's people coming to

her and she helps them with her magic. Yes correct. And she calls it magic? Or is voodoo and magic similar? Well no voodoo is actually like religion isn't it? But it's a combination of like African rituals and like Catholicism. Right. It's actually not like you know witchcraft and witch doctors and stuff like that Like it's kind of perceived I think in film and stuff. It's just yeah kind of ritualistic and spiritual right and generally like quite Well, it's well-meaning. It's not nasty. It's not like voodoo doll sticking pins in voodoo dolls. It's positive yeah well-meaning, it's not nasty, it's not like voodoo dolls sticking pins in voodoo dolls, it's positive. Yeah. So, you know, healing illness and stuff like that, for example. Like witch doctors. Witch doctors, but not. No, but it is, I guess it is sort of that kind of.

But I didn't realize which doctors, I didn't think they would, that was negative. I don't know, I shouldn't talk to you, I'm saying that. Which hairdressers? Yeah, it's a witch hairdresser. So there's a bit of speculation, things that these common themes or common stories about her that they can't necessarily say for sure. But one of them is that she had a snake that she named zombie after an African god.

And she's had the snake with her all the time. She's a snake around her neck. God, that don't make get really hard to cut her. It would make it hard. Um. Zombie is a sweet name for us, right? Zombie is a great name for a snake. One of the other things is like whether her sort of power is

forn of a better word, we're supported by a network of informants she developed while working as a hairdresser. So rather than her actually, you know, being intuitive, maybe it's that she had informants telling her things. And she was sort of a fortune teller. Ah, I wouldn't put it like that, but they just, yeah, maybe I guess, or just all knowing, you know, food or priestess, you know, what they're like.

I know what they're like. I know what they're like. To be honest, I don't, but I'm starting to get some idea because you're telling me what they like. Are you? I'm in the second. Yes. Yes.

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Now is the time. Mycomputercareer.edu. is the time mycomputercareer.edu. Um, it's hard to find solid evidence because there's so much that's unknown about here, partly, of course, because it was a long time ago, but also partly because there was mystery and intrigue around her life at the time anyway. Um, I found a couple of stories that a guy called James, uh, Duvelier has written up. Now, he's an author author spiritual counselor and paranormal researcher So he feels like a person much more qualified to tell these stories than me. Oh, would you get him in? Would you get him in? Is he still alive? I've got him on the phone

Yeah, I think so. Yeah. This is only written kind of race Even if he is dead we could talk to him from beyond the grave because I'm sure he's worked out how he'd know how But I've got a couple of stories here That he's kind of written down that are kind of well-known ones about her. Would you like to hear those stories? Oh, sorry Jess. Oh, would that suit you and me? Okay, yeah, I want to hear it.

It's 10 Matt's head fans off. Well, I mean we didn't get Jess's answer. I say yes. Okay. Thank goodness. Look, I'm willing to be outvoted. I mean you generally zone out anyway. I'm going to go with a popular vote.

Just have a little... I'm like the election in America. Am I right? Wow, why the topical reference? What is this Brexit I'll ever hear? The people don't know what they want. I don't know. Okay, so sometime in the late 1830s, the son of a respected New York businessman committed the brutal crime of raping and murdering a local creel girl who had met at a ball. It was like a big gala affair where upper class gentleman would go to meet young women and take them as a mistress, you know, one of these classy events. And he took her up to his hotel suite and did some terrible things and she died quite nastily. And this caused a massive scandal and sent

waves of raids throughout the entire city and people all through New Orleans just wanted to see this guy hanged, like they were furious, fair enough. The father of the accused man had heard of Marie's reputation as the feared and respected voodoo queen and more importantly as a manipulator of men and he knew that if anybody in the city could save his son, it was Marie Levo. So Marie met with the the worried businessman in her elegant apartment,

and over T, she listens to his pleas and agreed to help win his son's case, and assured that he would go free. But on the condition that once his son was declared innocent, he would sign over to her, the deed to a Creole cottage that he owned on the R roof St. Anne One of his many properties throughout the city

So we're just gonna stop right there. So she's agreed to get a definite murderer off in exchange for a house correct Why don't peace of work? That doesn't sound good. No, but it's like Benefits her she's getting she will she'll get a house Yeah, yeah I was thinking that she was going to be a good person. I thought you were going to somehow track this guy down and using her powers and then they all you know lock him up. We'll have like the stories not over boys.

Why are we jumping to some conclusions? Because we love to do that on the show. Yeah. So shut up. Okay. We'll try that. Interesting take. Not really understanding what you're saying. Hmm. Hmm. Just settle're saying hmm for settle down I just settle down Okay, all right Matt and I were ready to turn on there when I was oh I already have Great just settle turn back time the businessmen agreed and the deal was struck in the meantime several onlookers had gathered below the balcony of LaVos townhouse and observed firsthand this historic meeting and within minutes

The city was abuzz with gossip about Marie's involvement with the already sensationalized case. Later that same day Marie left her home and walked with her pet snake, Zombie, resting on her shoulders. She's walking through the town. Zombie, everyone knew, was her animal familiar? Do you know how witches have familiar, like an animal companion? Yeah. That helps them with their magic. Ah, I didn't realize that. On the, for example, on the mighty bush, have you seen the mighty bush? Yeah. There's, I can't remember any of their names anymore. Bolo is, the gorilla. He's the familiar of the boo.

Who was a shaman. Yes, and in... I never realized he was his familiar. I guess the monkeys are... But he's a terrible familiar. That's the joke you never do anything. The witch of the... In Wizard of Oz. Yeah, she had those monkeys. Flying monkeys.

Is that what that is? I guess, maybe. Pirates have parrots. We... That's not fair. You're just talking about... Like the guy that's the character that has a lot of... The lion tamer?

No, that's not a familiar. My mom has a dog. Yeah. This is is a sort of you've got a cat yeah that's your familiar well here's a cat in my house I wouldn't say I got no cat I got on the cat pull cat good on him good on her thank you Dave on my cat please it's 2017 cats can be women Mrs. Jimmy Mrs. Jimmy Oliver again. That's a cold letter. I'm breakable Kimmy Schmidt. Have you seen that at all? Yeah Monkey was a woman women can be anything. It's great um So Marie's walking along with her snake around her shoulders because she's just a cool dude

So everybody's seen that and they know that the snake is her familiar So they assume that she's about to go undertake a spiritual working. Ooh, but doesn't the snake go everywhere? Well probably they constantly think she's about to do something but really she's just going for a walk. Obviously not. Maybe she leaves the house without zombie sometimes. But when she's cutting hair, zombies there, they're all spiritual. Yeah, it's a spiritual thing. So she makes her way through the city and she enters the St. Louis Cathedral.

She knelt at the front-old and began to pray. All the while, with zombie curled tightly around her neck and shoulders. She pleaded to her saint's spirits and Almighty God to help sway the trial of the young man to the young man's favour and forgive him the ghastly crime he had committed. Then she placed three guinea peppers under her tongue and asked God to let the searing pain that she endured serve as penance for his crimes to let her bear the punishment. So that have to be some pretty hot peppers. Pretty hot and she got three of them. And then she went and told someone about this.

How do we know that? Matt. I'm just curious. It's just an interesting thing. So it's like, and then she's at the head just again She's coming on and put a few bananas It's the only way God works Not for an eye a paper for a paper. Yeah, he gets it very similar to the brutal rapin murder of We have a hang-in or put three peppers in his mouth make him close his mouth for at least three minutes same same Give us a milk. We're all done less than learn less than learn pendants. He's a good boy We either hang him or put three peppers in his mouth, make him close his mouth for at least three minutes. Same, same. Give him some milk. We're all done.

Lesson learned. Lesson learned. Pendants. He's a good boy. He's a good boy and he's fixed. So she stays in the church for hours and she's praying and they're bound to find fire and the tears are rolling down her face. Like they're hot. How hot? Hot.

Like a habanero? Yes. Jesus. Habanero. Habanero? Yes. Jesus. No. habanero. habanero. habanero. The god of mercy on her soul. At the end of the day, she returned home, but not before making a surprise visit to

the courthouse. To the milk bar. She did a drop in. Unbeknownst to anyone, she entered the courtroom, removed the guinea peppers from her mouth, and placed one under the judges bench, one in the jury box, and the third under the seat of the accused, where the businessman's son was to sit. So there's no security image. No security. Like that?

It's the 18th, maybe. Like last week we were talking about the White House, people just walking and now walking. What are you doing? I'm just putting your pepper under the president's pillow. Carry on. Carry on. Check it out. The next day, while court was in session, the doors, swung open and Marie entered the courtroom

with zombie in tow, resting happily around her neck. The crowd mumbled and whispered as she made her way to the front row and took a seat. From the court, was that you being... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no've got a snake, what the fuck? It's looking at me. That's my head, or is that why she here? So, basically, from the comments of the judge and the half-hearted fight put up by the prosecution, it was evident that the trial had swung in favor of the accused. What the half-hot? By the end of the day, both the defence and the state of Louisiana had rested their cases,

and the jury returned with the verdict of not guilty. What the fuck? True to his word, the Yankee businessman right there in the courtroom signed over his property on Rousseau and Anne and it became Marie's home until her death in 1881. The house was demolished in 1913 but native New Orleansians know the story of the Ivy covered mansion that once stood on the vacant lot and how its infamous resident came to be the proprietress. So people know that story

that she like helped her. So when you said the story wasn't ever it was I just didn't want you to jump to it. I was thinking, otherwise she's gonna shove a pepper down his throat. No, but when I was reading and she goes to the courthouse and like puts in there I was like it's gonna like they're gonna sit on the peppers it's gonna burn their assholes. I was like yeah that'll get it was weird. So just assholes on fire. So he was like, we're gonna get out of here. I'm gonna get on my ass. I'm gonna go up my ass with yoga.

No, I just wanted you to feel the way I felt when I was radiant. I was like, oh my god, it's she's doing something. Oh, no, no, she's just gonna free me out. No, so she's really a bad person. No, she's not a bad person. If you call it, if you believe that she had any effect, which I personally do not, but she got a free house. She got a free house. Yeah, no, that's a... ah, some reason I was thinking of she was going to be the hero of this story. So it was kind of a bit disappointed that she's sort of profiting from crime almost. Yeah, no, but that was just one story, you know, one story,

you know, you know, one life. You know life you know life what you've never done anything bad I've never thought a rapist and a murderer off and if I did I probably should be punished forever But she didn't as well as you said before maybe she had nothing to do with it Maybe all she did was go free. I agree with Matt. She did profit from it though. Yeah, she got the hell And she up, you know, maybe back then people believed in more superstitious stuff So maybe just the confidence the placebo effect Maybe I don't know if that's anything. I mean the jury didn't know a lot of hypothesizing The lawyers like going we got this so he

Lawyer'd way better. So similar to loony tunes where Michael Jordan gave the tune team at Looney Tunes where Michael Jordan gave the Tune team, Michael's juice water as a code, Michael's special stuff. Oh yeah and I was just, but it was water. But they played no big, yeah. Real special stuff was in here. Yeah, all along. That's beautiful. Carl Michael Jordan's great. What a guy. What a guy. There's another story that you might like better. Yeah, best possible time I think. One of them. That's a person really way. No, it's a person and a basketball. He's like great.

And quite a good golfer and not a bad baseballer. Two, so. I would read him, wait. Liz, he can hold a club. Put him. Liz, he can hold a club. He's a little handsome. I can hold a club so much.

There you can't. You get the toothpick in your eye every time. What the fuck is the toothpick in there? It's holding it all together. Make sense. Mine always falls apart. I'm taking that. You take it out but then you've got to hold on. Like you've got to hold on around the toothpick. Take the toothpick out so that you would have... What hold on somewhere you think it may be? I don't know. Hold on for one more day. There's a lot of hold on songs in that flute song. Yeah. Hold on.

Your one was the best. What was that one you said? That's Wilson Phillips. Wilson Phillips. Hold on for more. Who are daughters of famous musicians or something? I always change. Why do you like yourself up in these chains?

Please, please, please, please, please. I can't think of my hold on song. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, case incident and beautifully shows the compassionate nature of Murray Lever. Oh, here comes, he's going to get the murder of Rebecca. I can feel it. She's going to win us back. Especially towards individuals who were reviled and spat upon by society. So, Lever was a staunch opponent of the death penalty, public execution in particular, and she often used her influence to spare convicted criminals from going to the gallows. In exchange for a free house. No free houses. Okay, so. This time. One notable case occurred in the summer of 1854 when a convicted thief and murderer was scheduled to be hanged in Congo Square, the city central square.

It was common knowledge and Marie had spoken out against this particular execution and that she tried to exercise her influence with the court magistrate to get the accused sentence commuted. In exchange for one free house and we'll commute these sentences. There was no houses. That's why he's going to die. But to no avail, so she was failure and she failed in that. And her failure to win over the judges calls rumours to circulate about her waning influence and this angered her as almost as much as the practice of public execution itself. She's like no no no no no no no no no my reputation is very

important. Okay. She got so mad she publicly murdered some people. No. The day of the execution was warm and bright and hundreds gathered under the cloudless skies to witness the event at Congo Square. The black-coded executioner read the death sentence and securely tied into the noose around the condemned man's neck. As he was getting ready to pull the lever and send the man to his death, Marie arrived at Kongo Square with her ever-present snake zombie. The crowd parted to make way for her and as she sort of approached and she looked up at the executioner and the condemned and her face was stern with anger. The crowd was completely silent. As she stood there, the once clear sky filled with clouds and a violent wind beat down on all of those presents.

So I got a dark and stormy. A dark and stormy. She ordered drinks for everybody. What was the weather like before we started this episode? Oh my God. We just had to have a little break because we wanted one of the noise. We came into the studio, it was hot and clear skies We just stop we just had a quick break because there was a noise happening

We went out and it is storming outside crazy a bit of a flood in the driveway. Yeah, I'm not sure we can get that cars out We were just talking about how she was a bit of a bad person for getting that murder off Yeah, that's exactly when we had to stop. Oh, no shit. It was too the Ferris curse Now we've got the voodoo curse too. Oh no two curses are not better than one One of my favorite beers is the voodoo port are made by two brothers in Mirabin That's not is that enough? No, I did think it is the voodoo people a great song by the prodigy I will start practicing Santa Rhea. I will get a crystal ball.

You will get a million dollars. And I won't spend it all. I'll buy an old house or whatever. Yeah, to get a house, you just have to get a matter and rape yourself. I can't not do it that way. Also, the snake... It's not saying get him off too, it's weird.

The snake is still alive. Snake is still alive. How long does snake sleep? 20 years later, that's amazing, isn't it? Yeah, wow, I mean, the food is snake. Oh, actually, little bit sweet. Snake is still alive. How long does snake sleep? 20 years later, that's amazing. Yeah, well, I mean, it's a rude snake. Oh, actually, Padame, she's probably still alive. And also, like there's comments as well. And I think I might mention them later as well, but like she... Like, doesn't age. People actually, even into her old age, she is like, she looks great and very young and doesn't age. Oh, manga. Oh, manga. Which is poach's genetics.

A little bit freaked out. No. Could be, but also, they all like the snake venom. The stories that she was born in the late 1700s, but the reality is, so they're sort of, everyone thinks she's 10 years older than she is as well. That's true. You never know.

Or at 70s, whatever. There's actually another thing that may explain it as well, which I'll talk about later, but for now. So it's storming up around the gallows. Yes. Storming up a storm. Okay. Okay. So the executioner who is just doing his job, he pulls a lever to send... Yeah, that's what all murderers fucking say. Send the condemned man, hurtling towards the ground, very dramatic telling this story. Just then the noose came undone, and the rope slipped over his head, and he landed on the ground unharmed.

Oh, there's gonna land on a horse like that muse film. Ha ha ha. Now, according to tradition and law, this Maracchilles occurrence was considered an act of God, and the criminal sentence is then converted to imprisonment, and he was thus saved from death by a king. What? What? So, if it doesn't work, by noose, that's an act of God and the criminal sentence is then converted to imprisonment and he was thus saved from death by I think. What? What? So if it doesn't work by noose, that's an act of God. If they don't die. They don't die. Fascinating. So if your mate is the executioner, he can... Act of God. That's great. Isn't that cool? So after that day, the people... So she only had to really convince the executioner to... Oh, Matt.

No, but it would be pretty hard because if you make it too loose, but not loose enough, you will just strangle and have a horrible, horrible death. Right, yeah. It's an act of God, not an act of bribery. I didn't say bribery, but I thought maybe she put a chili under his eyes. She brought the weather man.

She's got, you know what she did? She did the execution on her first day. I was having a cool whisk. It's cool. It was a cool change on Thursday She knows she's ahead of us. She knows how the weather works. She's a meteorologist slash Food and pre-stress after that day the people of New Orleans never again doubted the power and influence of Murray live Oh, and they took the miraculous escape as a sign of Marie's unparalleled favor in the spirit world

It's pretty cool. I would have been 100% convinced in 18, whatever. Yeah, well that would have been the 1850s. Yes. Because it was 20 years after 1830s. That's my math. Man, this is such a similar timeline to last week. Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about that. So a couple of things. So Yeah, that. Um, so, uh, a couple of things. So, uh, according to official New Orleans records, Marie Catherine Levo Paris Glepeon, because she took everybody's names, died on June 15th, 1881, at the age of 79.

Um, on June 17th, so a couple of days later, the New Orleans newspaper posted her obituary, which according to voodoo in New Orleans by a guy called a Robert Talent, announced that Marie Levo had died peacefully in her home. However, oral tradition states that she was seen by some people in town after her supposed demise. Hang on! She died, but then was still seen around town. What? But then one of her daughters also named Marie. Many of her daughters had the name Marie within their names because Catholic naming practices

is what it says. But I thought only one of her kids survived. No, it also. Well, she had two daughters that survived. Right. Beyond early childhood. Only one that survived adulthood. Right. Which is this one Marie, possibly assumed her position with her name and carried on her magical practice taking over as the queen soon before or after the first Marie's death. So the legend, yeah the legend of Marie Louve is actually two women. It's like her and her daughter. It is like the Phantom. I love it. Yeah. Whoa. And they sort of think that like her daughter was a bit more showy. Right.

Apparently. Give the people a real show. Storm's on and off. She's got the hat. She's getting the rabbit out. She's getting a rabbit out. She's like, is this your card? And everyone's like, what?

Let him go. Let him go. All right. I can get the, you know, if I can make the ace of clubs appear, this murderer and Reaper should be left off and I shall own all of your houses! Woo! So yeah, it's kind of interesting. Again, there isn't a whole heap of information.

I know there's like books and documentaries and stuff made about it, but... Most of which you've read? All of them, obviously. I mean, I research these very thoroughly and never when I'm very unwell. But we've totally quit our jobs guys. This is full time. This is what we do now. That's why next time the head of us,

what I do for a job. I'm a podcaster. A podcaster. Wow. Yeah, full time. I'm a very hungry podcaster. I cannot afford to live. I have this haircut for free.

Please. And do you have a spare couch? Please. I have a couch. Do you want to say please? I refuse. Yeah, that's what it is. Sign of weakness.

You can turn your eye mate. So, I'm not necessarily a sign of weakness. Lavo's name and her history have been surrounded by legend and law throughout history. In 1982, an actual 1982, not 1882, Matt, I can read properly. In 1982, the New Jersey-based punk rock group, the misfits, were arrested and accused of attempting to exume Levo from her grave after a local concert. Oh my goodness. That's pretty cool. That was like a fun fact that I just threw in there. Is that cool? So there's a lore against that specifically? What, exhuming the dead't think that I don't think that's an okay thing to do

That's definitely a law wait exhuming as in they try to dig her up. Yeah, I thought they were standing there saying like it's No, it wasn't like a science. They probably like tried to oh, they'll try to dig her out. That feels like that should be a leak Yeah, that any if they're are there going Just like saying um, you know with something that they'd read that was not culturally insensitive, probably. Yeah, well they tried to examine it from a grave. I just, I obviously didn't know what exhumed that. Oh, right, right, right.

Exhumed just means dig up, does it? Because they've got, um, misfits are the ones with the, they got the, what do they call Exterm just means dig up does it? Miss Fitzer the ones with the they got the what are they called that hairstyle? They they curl it at the front Oh, yeah, it's got a dreadnought or something That's a foe is it not a foe hawk? It's a death hawk death hawk death hawk That's right. No, is it what is that a it's like an army ship or something? Yeah, it's like what Glenn Danzig's band or whatever. But that's the first thing I can't tell. Glenn Danzig's so good.

What a name. A name. I'm a rock star from the band The Mist Hits. My name's Glenn. That's the name. Glenn. Glenn. Like we've got to mention before, like tourists

continue to visit her grave, her tomb, and some draw an X mark in accordance with a decade's old rumor that if people wanted LaVo to grant their wish, they had to draw an X on the tomb, turn around three times, knock on the tomb, yell out their wish, and if it was granted, come back, circle their X and leave LaVo and offering. So it's almost like two different ones, sometimes I'll do three Xs, sometimes you've got a yell at it, and knock it. Sounds like a lot of admin. How can you buy a woman that has everything that slashes been dead for 150 years?

An X with a circle around it. Yeah, she loves it. I don't know. Flare. It's a kind of thing. I'm offering. Maybe some sort of a... I do that for most curves anyway. Just, you know, keep some of your hair from that haircut. Give her a death hawk. Give her a death hawk. Give her a deathhawk. Tic-tac-toe, she might enjoy that. She loves that. Like a game or? A game of Tic-tac-toe.

Do you play, how do you make a move? Cross the surface. You just throw it on her tomb. Maybe that's why all she wants, she wants to play. Tic-tac-toe. I don't think that's it. No, I think that's it either. Big fan of the X-Files.

The only thing I could think of with Noughts and Crosses, the game Noltsin crosses As of first of March in 2015 there is no longer public access to the cemetery Entry is with a two-a-guide only What so two-a-guide only two you got a two-a-guide map no two years before but I was wondering You see this one in with your mates now just when it was a mates there was it I reckon there was a two of there and I was you know doing that aavesdropping thing I love that but then I tell you off for I did an Edinburgh castle now like this is for two was only okay They say that we're just standing kind of give our fuck yourself. Yeah, it was very

You can't mention it. No, I wasn't I wasn't I was just happening. I was looking at this thing too. Yeah, it was very funny You just gotta say, no English. No, I'm blowing lazy. Yep, okay, you don't speak that, but you also don't speak Spanish very well either. What do you speak? Latin. Oh, she just said that in Latin. That in Latin.

That's a big pig Latin. Big pig Latin. People Latin. That's a big pig Latin. People Latin, play Latin. People Latin, play Latin. People Latin, play Latin. Sorry, there's many, or there have been many references to Marie Levent, an art, pop culture, and music. My favorite song title based on her is from, it's quite recent, it's from a Danish metal band, Volbeat, released an album with the song entitled Marie Levent, and then in brackets,

Seal the Deal and Let's Buggy. I was in the last year, so. I think Volbyd are very good. Well, I've heard of Volbyd. I'm trying to remember who told me about him. I looked him up. I don't think I like them. Love the man knows Volbyd. Of course he does.

It's a metal band. The factory Volbyd. But also. They're two together. Marie Levo. Seal the deal and lets boogie. That's beautiful. He's a pretty great man. Maybe I'll give him a the deal and let's boogie. That's beautiful.

Yeah, maybe I'll give him a minute. Why don't we Sun's Butterfly? I'd love to hear it. Yeah, I want to hear that. I'll find it. Marilevo is in Danish. This is kind of interesting, and this is just a few little things to finish up with. And this kind of ties in nicely with some previous topics.

Most prominently in comics, a character named Marilevo, based loosely on the real Marie Levo, appeals in Ma, appeals. Appears. Appears to young gentleman. Appears in Marvel comics. She first appeared in Dracula Lives, number two in 1973. She's depicted as a powerful sorceress and voodoo priestess with great magical powers and knowledge of arcane law, including the creation of a potion made from vampires blood that keeps her eternally youthful and beautiful. So she's in Marvel. She's in Marvel comics.

Was there any, like vampires? That's a very different thing. That's a different thing. No, but you just say it's in Dracula number two. And potion made from vampire blood. Yeah, it's interesting that they wrote yeah, they wrote her into the store like in there. Well, I think they all kind of intersect a little bit because they're in a different sound.

They in Pennsylvania, vampires. Do you mean you've trans-want, trans-want, yeah? Trans-want, yeah, sorry. That I always do. Pensalvania is a... That's where Pittsburgh is. I'm thinking of the penguins. You're confusing penguins with vampires again.

Again. The Pittsburgh vampire. So it does this every penguins. You're confusing penguins with vampires again. I'll say that a lot. The Pittsburgh vampires. It does this every time. The difference is vampires can fly, right? They definitely can. And penguins have reflections. They do. They definitely do.

They're the big two differences. I can tell them apart. I don't know if they've seen a penguin's reflection. You chuck a penguin in a vampire in a house of mirrors and that's how you find out which is which. It's the only way to know. Science has not evolved. Doesn't know yet.

There's also a character named Marie Levo, basically on the real Marie Levo once again, appeared in the Italian comic book Zagor. I have no more information about Zagor. Right, so you don't speak English, Spanish or Italian? Paolo Un Pao Italiano, thank you very much. See. See, Vabene. There have been several ghostly phenomena associated

with Marie's tomb, each of the countless people who kind of live within the cemetery, like homeless people. Claimed to see her ghost dancing from tomb to tomb. And on one occasion, a patron of the local drugstore claims that Marie materialized in front of him and asked if he if he knew who she was when he responded in the negative she slapped him in the face and levitated out of the drug store and over the fence towards her grave. I love that. How cool is that? Do you know who I am? She sounds like he is quite a patron of the

drug store. Yeah. Hahaha! That's the number one customer. Oh, I got her. Gary's back. Gary's back. Hey, sort of ghost again, Gary. She's fucking slapped me! Who slapped you, Gary?

There's nobody else here. I'm not in P.M. Well, I don't know who she is, and that's why she's got it again. I'm sorry, I'm doing my research. I'm on Google Nams. Oh, oh, oh, oh, fuck! I was Gary. And Zinc. I'm on Google namps! Oh, oh, oh, fuck! How's Gary? And Sink.

Many also claim that Marie watches over the city in the form of a big black crow. If everyone in New Orleans you can be like, oh, that big crow looks awfully menacing. It's also wearing a little turban. Like a Marie Lava, would you? Is she menacing? I don't think she is like a... I don't think a huge black crow is going to is gonna be a really like it's not menacing looking over the town

I was thinking like like a guardian angel well you then if it was it would be an angel Got around slapping people It's a crap like draped in a snake That's the giveaway singing the beat paradise put up parking lot the black rose maybe now that okay very good now that she's a good big yellow taxi counting crow's black rose was counting black cross that's a fast up that they made a super group into it they did not that would be good though who's in

when she was a crow though was she her own favor no what was familiar fuck that would have been a much funnier thing the safer news of the right word. Familiar and yes, what's a favor? I don't know what a favor is. A favor is a... I bet you don't. You jerk. A favor is something you do for a murderer in exchange for a free house.

Yeah, but a familiar is an animal that accompanies you on your magical doings. That you recognize. Yes, you are quite a quite a just to wrap up in any case voodoo practitioners know that Marie lives on in the spiritual form and that their beloved queen can hear and bless them from the spirit world oh shit she's heard this whole thing so I so she's a positive figure yeah she's mostly a positive figure, but she's like, she was like a st-

Okay, this- can I just let me say this sentence and then we'll then understand. Okay. Regardless of whether Marie Levo possessed mystifying supernatural powers or if her influence was due to bribery and espionage, the fact remains that she was a woman who lived on her own terms and refused to conform to the cookie cutter image that society had prescribed her and thereby made her own destiny. So, yeah, she was kind of like this powerful, intimidating, strong woman who may or may not have, you know, helped to get a house,

to get a free house. Terrible dining. Or she could have been a total hero in the town. I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a very hard, illness. So overlook the taking a free house in exchange for it. Well, whether or not she actually did get the murder off. And also she believed she did or they believed and it's all all all all did the guy definitely do it.

And she was just the guy the day was just worrying. She's like, look look I'll sell do it It's a 50 50 yeah, what's what do I lose? What is she lose a house But it's no Sorry, I think was the dad was saying what have I got to lose and it's like He also had many so you didn't really care right okay. Okay. Let's one of many houses be had to take it Yeah, but that's also just a story. We still don't have any like hard evidence that that's definitely how it happened.

To any photos of her daughter exists? Because she would have been maybe able to. Not photos. No photos? Because she was in the time of John Wilkes-Beef, type people who have photos of her. OK, yeah, no, you're right, and I'm wrong. But there's, so there's.

She sounds like she probably look like pretty fascinating person well there's images of her yes but that's the thing because they're kind of morphed into like one person it's sort of hard to say I'll show you a picture so this is like a it's very small but like a painting of her she was like cool turbine but then there's others oh yeah she looks a bit like Beyonce in that photo. Doesn't look a bit like Beyonce. Oh yeah. Who in her songs always talks about, well in one time it talks about her mother or father being Creole, one of those mother or father. So she's just strong. Make it Texas Bama I believe she says. I don't know what that means. She's just a strong cool

lady. Oh it's a really interesting story. No she sounds very fascinating. I hope that I I hope that I covered it enough Max. There's not a lot of info out there. The person I'd never heard of her. So I always love to hear about people that I've never heard of because that's cool. That is pretty cool. Well, it is that time at the end of the episode

to thank some Patreon supporters and subscribers. And Matt, I believe you are going to kick us off with their name. Yeah, well actually this is this first time I think we've got one that isn't it's a website or it's a community. And it's a place I like to go to chill out when I'm done, you know, being red at the end of the day. You'd be red. I like to go to a place to hang your cape, my cape in this instance, but it's called a place to hang your cape. A bell cape? A bell cape? A bell cape?

Well, that's the beauty of the communities you don't have to hang any particular kind of cape. I think they're more talking about superhero capes. But they're pretty cape neutral? Pretty cape neutral. Oh, good. That's a website, AP2HYC.com. A place to hang your cape, but the two is a number two. Oh, very good. Which is nice.

And these guys and girls and people, humans and capes. And capes. I mean, the whole organization. It's really good to have them on board. We appreciate the support. I also wanted to say thank you to the off brand Antihistamine. We all know the well-known Australian brand Demazine. Of course I take it take it regularly. Monthly. Monthly. First of every month just in case because the first of every month is nearly always a Monday and that's the hottest day of the week and that's when the pollen count is always at 99%. Exactly. And then you wait till Thursday, cool stuff. Cool stuff, everything's fine.

So, but the other alternative that you have, if you don't want to take Demison, is Denison. Denison. I'm so bad at these, and you can't even make me do them. Denison. No, I just not do them. I mean, you could just do a heartfelt thank you. I just don't know how to. I don't know if it's.

I don't know if it's. Yeah, instead you're really you do these sort of mean spirit of joys. I mean spirit is fine. Denison. Denison. I've just had a look his name is also Daniel Pratt. Oh, well, you could have told me that before.

I could have made some sort of press. I made some sort of deficit. I made some sort of deficit joke. I wish I had. But I had no idea you were going to. Thank you, Mr. Press. That's better. For contributing to our podcast, which is our favorite thing that we do, and we love this so much,

and it means a lot to us that people want to be involved. And sincerely, I thank you so much. That was so sincere and beautiful. That wasn't that great. That was really not that great. I feel sick for opening up like that. Oh my god. Daniel Pratt, you gotta understand how lucky you were

to get Jess, the real Jess. The real Jess. She nearly never shows that, not to us, not to your day. I've never been thanked. God no, never thank you, fuck off. Well, someone I'd like to thank and not tell the fuck off is, um, sometimes people have great initials, and this person is a BRB, B-Right Back.

BRB. And they've constantly got our back with their pledges, and I would just like to say thank you to BRB. Benjamin, are bristen. Thank you, Mr. Bristen. BRB. We appreciate you being there for our right back. Yeah. Doesn't make sense. No. And our left back to me. Yeah, just our backs in general. Just our spines. Thanks for the lumber support. Thank you. You are so

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