Two In The Think Tank - 71 - The Last Japanese Soldiers

Episode Date: March 1, 2017

We ALL know that World War II ended in 1945, right guys? Well a bunch of Japanese soldiers stationed on remote, jungle filled islands didn't get the memo... This is the story of one of those soldiers, Hiroo Onoda, who kept fighting for DECADES. Dozens of search parties were sent to find him. Surrender orders, leaflets and letters from his family were dropped, but nothing would bring him out of the jungle. That was until a young hippy went looking for the man that most people thought was dead.Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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You are good. You are very good. I wanted to say, this is so big as Matt I didn't think he'd say hi Jess. What did you think he was saying? He's committed to it and couldn't bail. You weren't able to think quick enough to get out of it. I never think quick enough. They're like Ron Bergen, D reading an AutoCube.

I'm Ron Bergen, D. Yeah, well, Jess is actually on AutoCube, which is one of the strangest things about this show. And it works. We've got to try and fit around us somehow. Yeah. Hey, Dave, do you notice that someone tweeted, maybe last week saying that they're 30 or 40 episodes

in their starter from the beginning and they're wondering if you're ever able to concisely explain what the show is about. No, I think so. Well, the episode 40 I reckon I'd probably gave up about that mark. I don't even remember you trying to do it. I feel like Beth probably also got the idea of the show by then too. When was the last time I actually said what we do on this show is? I probably should be the idea of the show by then too. When was the last time I actually said, what we do on this show is? Oh yeah, actually.

I probably should be disengaging. Yeah, just, I'm just curious. I'm just curious. What is it we do on this show, Dave? Well, what we do is we take a little bit of sugar. That's Matt, a little bit of spice. That's just a little bit of everything nice. It was a jazz.

Then I come along and try and explain the show. What I say is, hello, welcome to do go on the podcast show where each of us do a report than out of the same time. Wow, alternating weeks and the other two sit back and chat over them at the end of the episode, there's fun facts sometimes. Now, it's like you were chatting over yourself then. That was nice. I was trying to give like a little demonstration of what they will expect for the next hour of the live. Thank you for calling me Spice as well, I like that. And everything else.

Everything else is much better than the Spice I like. I know. Well, my friend Mark told me I was spicy one time. He meant it sort of like sassy. See from the pajama man. Yes. That's it. Is that because it's not. That's my only friend Mark. I thought you're gonna mention Mark from Aunty Donna, that was my go to Mark. No, he doesn't call me spicy, he calls me Melbourne

Comedy Sweetheart. Oh, it's sarcastically. Oh, I was gonna say because spicy and sweetheart are very- Two very different things. Very different, very different things. But all things nice, that is you, and Matt, sugar. Mm. I'll give you some sugar. Because you're bad for your... No, no, no, no, no, no, naturally sweet. Oh, you're there we go. And also good on corn flakes. And good for exfoliating.

And also good for ruining cars. Little sugar in the gas tank. Well, that from the Simpsons. Oh, there we go. Also good in small portions only. Yes. Good for horses to eat in cubes. Is that a thing I've never seen a horse eat a cube,

but I've never seen a horse eat. I guess. Take, have you never seen a horse eat? Oh, actually, no, I've seen one eat an apple and it made me laugh. Have you ever seen one, because it's a piss? Yeah. You have seen a horse piss? When I saw a horse piss as a child, it was something that really blew me laugh. Have you ever seen one piece? Yeah, I've seen a horse piece. When I saw a horse

piece as a child, it was something that really blew me away. Is that a real piece? Yeah, because there were those ones that started with it inside of them and it drops out and it's big. I'm talking about the D. Not the piece. Not the piece. The piece is big too, but the D is enormous. But when you say it blew you away, was it pissing on to you? It was like a pressure hose. You would just floor the pee. Yeah, I was in a big paddock as well. I was like, if you looked at me from a distance,

would it look like there was a mini, like a localized cyclone? Or hurricane? And it was just sending me right across the meadow and the paddock. Wow. The meadow was next to the paddock, if they're different things. What is the difference? I feel like meadows have like little flowers in them.

Yeah. Paddocks are a bit more rough. Yeah. I feel like the difference is a fence. Fence is right. You got a paddock. You don't have a tube. Okay.

Okay. Just saying, what were you talking about again? Horse piece of paddock. A horse piece. And how you're a sugary sugar daddy. Oh, there it is That's right. Because you're a sugar daddy and also I Sugar is also One of my nicknames. Is it yeah from Matt sugar tits to it Well, I see a part of a new who calls you that Gary lion Gary lion calls you sugar Tits. Yeah, that's nice. Not the one from...

No, I know, yeah, no. Right, you. No, it's a different Gary Lion. Yeah, spells are only with one hour. Interesting. Well, it's not. Why would you lie about that to our listeners? They can see Row 3 just so...

Yeah, sorry, Sugar Tits. Sorry, Sugar Tits. Save it. No worries. That's a splashy dick. Most of the listeners are like, who the fuck scary love? They're also like, why are they still talking? So it's my time to do a report on a topic. Yes.

Has been suggested by a listener. But we will start with a question. So I've got a question for you two guys. And that question is, which country fought World War II for the longest? And in some ways lost the race but won the marathon. What the, what a long question. For, okay. There's a lot of info in that question right. World War II, they lost the race. So the lost the, so I'd say that's, but won the marathon because they just kept fighting.

Oh, so they won in the end. So I think England came in, no, I'm thinking World War One. World War Two had that one started again, Jeff. Wrong person. Okay, so Germany was involved. Yes. They invaded Poland. Yes. That was right.

So we're Poland in early? That's pretty early. But then they sort of, were they fighting or were they just really? I don't fully understand his question. All right. I think it's someone in the allies who was on the ropes while i'm gonna say it's the opposite raywans also they were covered after they lost one of the bad guys

who kept fighting even though they lost the war uh... okay so there's rush it's not rush it there's germany japan uh... there's a big ones then you not Russia. There's Germany. Mm-hmm Japan They're the big ones then you've got it'll be big ones. Okay, so it's now I'm gonna say it is probably Japan It is Japan wait see a topic is Japan. No, no So can be I was like cool. I guess you're go, right? My topic suggested by Listen to Stephanie is the Japanese holdouts across the islands of the Pacific theater, which is the Pacific area of the war.

Many of whom either because they were unaware the war was over or because they wanted they didn't want to surrender kept fighting sometimes for decades after World War II finished. No way! And I have a particular story about a particular holdout whose name is Hiru Onoda, and that is the topic of today's episode. The life and times of Japanese holdout Hiru Onoda. Oh, no doubt. I've never heard the term holdout before.

Me either. I like it. Yeah. People who don't take it. It's that. It's that. It's that. It's that. It sounds like these. You thought I might turn on it, but I like it. Yeah. People who don't take it, can't take no for an answer. It sounds like the... You thought I might turn on it, but I like it.

So far so good. Hiroo Anoda was born on the 90th of March, 1922. A good year. A bloody good year. 22. In a village in the Wakyama Prefecture of South Japan, he was reportedly a stubborn child and defiant in every single way. Mm-hmm.

I can see him. I am on the way, Jess. All the ways you can be defiant? Yeah, because every single way. Uh, not eating your broccoli. Tick. That's one of the ways. To be defiant.

This is going to be a long list of things. Yes, let's keep it to top 10. But obviously that is in the top 10, so you're fine. Do you need to do 10? That's fine. Not the top 10, so you're fine. Do you do 10? That's fine. Not eating broccoli. No, don't you homework. Tick.

Talking back to your mum. Oh, double tick, so that's two, because he talked back. When she said don't talk back, he talked back. He talked back again. So that's four. Defiant, uh, refuse to run away. Flare refused. Defiant and stupid.

Well, okay. That's a hygienic thing. Hound away. Please. You're not. Yeah, and leading on from that, wouldn't wipe his bum. and stupid. Well, okay. It's a hygienic thing. Hard to wear. Please. You're not.

Yeah, and leading on from that, wouldn't wipe his bum. Oh, defiant and stupid. Real messy. That's it. All right, let's see. Defiant. He defiantly. You remember a couple?

You never rebelled as a child to you. No. Except for not wearing underwear and not wiping your bottom the parents. I definitely did both of those things. Thank you. Did you eat broccoli that? Yeah, but only the tops because I thought they were

little trees and if I didn't eat the bottom then that would keep you. Well, he refused both the top and the bottom. So that's seven. We've still got three to go. How else can you be defiant Matt? You were a bad boy. He wouldn't brush his knees.

He wouldn't eat his. He would not brush his knees. He wouldn't eat the tops of the chairs and he would eat the middle of the rhinoceros. Next, came moving Dave to go on. Well, I was actually about to read through the list, but you just said it word for word, so I went after a bit of my bent. Scroll through. He said- We've all got a script mate.

Oh no, to a bad boy, said of his early life. When I was six, I got into a fight with my friends. I started swinging a knife about and hurt him. My mother said the family could not tolerate me. She took me to the family shrine to commit hurry-kiri, which is the ritual suicide by self disemballement with a knife. Originally, just reserved for samurai, he continues, she said a thug like me should kill himself. I wonder why I couldn't cut my belly. Maybe because I was just a kid. So he didn't kill himself, H6? His mom took him to kill himself.

He defiantly said no. That is defiant. That was number 11. He didn't want to make a cape that day. That's fucked. So he survived his early years. And at age 17, he spent some time working for the Tajima Yoko trading company over in China before enlisting in the Japanese Imperial Army when he was 20 years old.

The year was 1942 and Japan, known then as the Empire of Japan, he was 20. A good age. That's right, Some real easy maths. The Empire of Japan at the time had been fighting against China since 1937 and were officially part of World War II right from the start in 1939 hoping to take over and dominate Asia. That's what Japan is trying to do at the time. Asia. Is that what you said?

Yes. Where were they trying to dominate? Asia. I don't know what. I just can't pick up the dialogue. Asia. Where were they trying to dominate? Aisha. I don't know what. I just can't pick up the dialogue. Aisha. Why are you saying it weird? You say it weird.

No. Aisha. I'm not sure. Well, no, you're both saying it that way, so I think I'm the wrong one. Aisha. You're saying it funny just, so but it's Aisha. I just bit a background here. The Axis Alliance, aka the bad guys.

It was made up of Germany, Japan, it's meant to say, and Italy. Do you not think that's like a funny combination? Yeah, well two of the three make Gwereite cuisine. Two of the three, what are you not a fan of? German sausage. Sure. Italian big fan. Big, bigger time fan, big Japanese fan. I would say my axis of awesome food would be Japan.

Yep. Would also be Italy and Mexico. Yeah, I would go Italy, Mexico. Thai. Oh, good. Yep Italy, Mexico. Thai. Oh good. Yep. Yeah, big kind of Thai. I'll go around this mountain and I'll go Mexico. Mm-hmm. Italy.

Spanish. Interesting. Interesting. Very good. There you go. You learn a little bit more about us listeners. Bit of, uh, we all like tacos. What are you called a little Spanish food again? Tapas. Little tapas. What did you call it? Ryaka, I think that's something else. I knew it was wrong instantly, but I recovered seamlessly. You'll be out of edit around that day. They make me sound pretty smart. I was editing it. You're saying Ryaka, six times in a row.

Ryaka, Ryaka, Ryaka. Do go on. So the bad guys, Germany, Italy, Japan, I'm just giving context for any non-World War II buffs. By the way, I've decided our third one in a trio of World War II bad asses. Cool, I can't imagine. I had three Monty's. So that's one the Monty. We had Magic Churchill. Oh yeah. And now we have H new anota. Yeah.

I was I was writing the port. I was like what's the difference? Yeah. Different time. Mm. About us. Mm. Great. The war really kicked off for Japan in 1941 with what is called the Pacific War when on the 7th of December 1941 Japan invaded Thailand. Attacked the British possessions of Malaya, Namalaya, Singapore, Hong Kong, as well as United States military bases in Hawaii, Guam, and the Philippines. And this also included the famous Pearl Harbor bombings. So, I didn't realize that they did all that simultaneously, which is, you know, biting off a lot to chew there.

It's crazy. These attacks led the USA, Britain, China, Australia, and several other states to formally declare war in Japan. So that's when they fully, fully in. How do you officially declare war? An email these days. It used to be a letter. So what would the email say?

Sometimes five to six working days, you wouldn't realize you were at war with someone. That's interesting. Yes, sirs. Or did whoever make it and say but to whom it make and said was on with you party to us and you it's down to us let's do it when I punch on you know war or whatever hey let me know anyway either way kind regards cheese Australia Australia That's how we would start a war let us is that you couldn't delete anything so once you wrote it as Matt was finding I think the way We would the way we would write it would be

Yeah, whatever America said we agree. Yeah, we also wore on whoever they said that Yeah, yeah, that'd be pretty cool. Why are you doing that voice? Because we're out of the way that little dog friend is trying to be tough with his big mate. Yeah, cool. We're doing tough. Come here and say that. What's that? We're 24 hours away. He can't be bothered flying here. Good call. Oh, thank God. Thank God. I reckon we've saved ourselves a lot of war just from being so far away. No, man. From what? I'm not far away from New Zealand. Good point. But where mates?

Well, yeah. Sure. For now. But how long? I'm going to stop talking because I don't know anything about anything. Enjoy the podcast boys, I'll be here for a minute. For the second time, I'm gonna tell myself to do go on. Dave Diggilan. Alright, so that's the war. As we're at Hiroo, it's signed up. And he attends the Nakano School in Tokyo.

It's the key training camp for intelligence agents but he was trained propaganda sabotage martial arts and guerrilla warfare sounds like my journalism degree propaganda mostly but then i would be said after that i was like i'm gonna just gonna say the joke anyway sabotage aka i think i heard like martial arts aka research

and uh... I know I hit martial arts, aka research. And... Okay, a class report. Yeah. And I imagine you were also part of the commando classes he was? No, I wouldn't commando all right. Wait, I thought you just said before that you definitely... As a kid I definitely weren't aware.

Gotcha. In my commando classes, no underwear. You took it very literally. Commando class. Ready for this. If you went in there, ripped them off and threw them in a stone of beer and threw them up in the big floating pig hanging from the ceiling. It's a thing they do in October 1st and 1 of the tents.

Really? Does it happen to everyone? Just you. No. They take your underwear off? Yeah, well, I was there a little while ago. So I imagine that. I imagine it in the last 100 years, maybe it's developed since this.

But in the Hoffbrow tent. Because your mom was launched by Adolf Hitler himself. Yeah, Hitler was there. He was doing inspections. But if people would, they'd actually find if you had any on, then they'd rip them off. And you say pants off, then they're off. No, no, rip them off. No, that's not going to pay for wait. And they didn't mean to be. And it wasn't a pig, it was like a big floating cloud thing. Like, what do you call those sort of things? Just a big decoration. They throw

it up there. Pretty fucked. And And they rip off your undies. Yeah, weird, right? That's real weird. Did that happen to you or did you? No, I didn't happen to me because I got weirdo. Did you learn wearing undies? I got weirded up by people and friends before going in. So I just dropped them down a couple of inches, low rider.

People were numb the ways there. But let me... Were people still checking you though? Like, you constantly try to have a beer and people like, I think, mate, you got any of that. Well, you weren't like seamless undy, so there was no lines in your pants. We were in your GBL.

You were in your G-Bang? Yeah, were you wearing your G-Bang? I think that'd be more dangerous, don't they? Well, it's less material to rip. But on the way up, it's like fishing wire. Oh, man, Dave knows he wore it for a week. It's true. I need to talk to him on YouTube, check it out. Please. It's very funny. Have you seen it? Yeah. Fuck you. We talked about it on first date. But how do you watch it? I wasn't

able to watch the whole thing through it. Yeah, I can't do it. It's mostly the hair that puts me in the hair. It's mainly watching young Dave feels creepy. It's not my naked body, it's my hair cut that puts my heart. Yes, it's not good. It's a real beaver fringe. I'm all we talk about, and the more people are good at going out. You're welcome. Check the comments. All right.

Also, then look at first I was just pleased. Thank you. Dig on. All right, back to the story. So he's part of the Commander class. He is. OK, I was wondering what he was doing. Yeah he's part of the commando class. He is. Okay, I was wondering what he was doing. Yeah, I forgot what he was doing.

He is not wearing a J-Bang. Interesting. In 1943, a Notre-Zone father who was also a soldier was killed in action in China. So this is while he's still training, he learns of his father's death. Then on December 26, 1944, a Notre was sent to Lou Bang Island in the Philippines, which is an island 93 miles or 150 K southwest of the Filipino capital, Manila, one of the many islands out there, a no-der deployed with four other men and they were ordered to stay completely out of sight, collecting information on the enemy's movements, disrupt those movements,

and launch a guerrilla attack wherever possible. They were told to particularly target the island's airstrip and the pier at the harbor, pretty much fuck shit up and cause mischief. Interesting. Interesting your interpretation there. And cause mischief, they're just like doing a bit of graffiti. Yeah. Kicking over some letterboxes. Plan hooky. Missed you, Vesley. Before they were deployed, the commander of their division said, you are absolutely forbidden to die by your own hand.

It may take three years. It may take five. But whatever happens, we'll come back for you. Until then, so long as you have one soldier, you are to continue to lead him. You may have to live on coconuts. That's the case. Live on coconuts. Under no circumstance, are you to give up your life voluntarily? I mean, it feels like not really something I can...

Please. Yeah, or reinforce it. If you take your life, I will punish you. Yeah, that's it. I'm coming for your life. I will bring back your life. And then you. Yeah, that's it. I'm coming for your life I will bring back your bring you back to life and then I'm gonna end it again I will take you to October fest and I'll make you wear 15 pairs of underpants I'll put you in that tent and I'll hear your screams for weeks

Some would take this order more seriously than others cough cough a no-da. I would not take that all that seriously Well, it's like it like the shackle to remember. We're like I would have given up so that seriously. Like the shackles in one of my way, I would have given up so long ago. Oh, me too. I'll just lie down. Cooking up sounds nice though. No, I don't like cooking up. I don't even like fucking bounty.

No, me either. I hate cooking up. I've never had one. I just assumed it tastes like bounty. You've never had, oh right. I think you think you have the chocolate. There, aren't you? I don't really like bounties that much do you not like coconut perhaps I like cherry

ripe so which is coconut chocolate if you have to eat cherry if you have to eat cherry flavoured coconut chocolate so be it mate that's the war we're in now it's an interesting war he as he dropped him off at the cabri factory. Just eat your way out. It may take three years, it may take five. But under no circumstance, I need to take your own life inside the cabri factory. It would be a public health nightmare. So anyway, his job is to fuck shit up.

And create mischief. You wrote that down. Did you write that and then high five yourself because you thought that was cool I felt like a real bad boy I am the annoda of word documents yeah you are may take five years I keep writing stuff was not going to pants way by this time of the war and they were fighting a war that was pretty much lost for them. A notice superior officers didn't really care for his guerrilla mission and being distracted by losing the war, they offered him little help with the missions.

He was a bit like online. That would be a bit distracting, losing the war. Just can't get my mind on the war. Yeah. Now that we're losing the war. I just can't focus on everything else now that we're losing the war. But I've got a lot worse for Japan on the island when two months later, February 28, 1945, the United States and the Philippine Commonwealth forces landed and quickly took control of the entire island.

All the Japanese soldiers were either killed or surrendered, all except for a no-no and three men who were ordered to evacuate to the thick jungle-filled hills. Cool. Anodo's men were private Yuiichi Akutsu, 22 years old. Corporal Shuiichi Shimada, 30 years old. Private first class Kinshichi Kazuka, 24 years old. Anodo himself was just 23 years old at the time. He was their senior officer and held the rank of Lieutenant. But not rigged there, me.

Rigged there. But he was the boss of these. Doesn't that just blow your mind when you hear these sorts of stories and they're like, they're people in their early 20s and it's like, fuck, I went without a light in my room for two months because I couldn't reach the light bulb and only the other day I realized if I stood on my filing cabinet I could reach the light and I'm 26. That's pretty brave though, two months of that light. I had a lamp, but it's just wasn't good enough. I was trying to get dressed, you couldn't see anything. What about a chair? Yeah, no, really high ceilings, I couldn't reach it.

How many comedians does it take to change a light bulb? No, I did it by myself, just one. And a filing cabinet. But it has to. On wheels. Is there a punch line for that? No. It's just my life, man.

It's just my life is the punch line. It is funny that that became a joke. How many? How many does it change? Yeah, these weird, isn't it? It's not a good joke. How many? How many, does it change? Yeah, these weird, isn't it? It's not a good joke. They're never funny. I heard someone, I heard someone

talking about it the other day and I said, how many, so I'm conscious does it take to change life? What was the answer? One, but they need a one-a-change. It's a globe once, it's a one-a-change or that. I think it was in Bojo Corp. That's a little-a-change. It's a globe once in a year, it's a one-a-change or? I think it was in Bojack Horseman. I think that's a little bit...

You can see an hour of Matt retelling other jokes about the other women comedy fest. My show this year, the festival's called Matt Stewart Butcher's The Classics. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Can you actually call me a show that next to you? That's a great title. You read from a joke book with a badly played show pan.

Great. I'd see that show. Me too. I wouldn't pay for it. I just use my festival pass and get in for free. Hey, we're doing a show at the festival. We mentioned that. Yeah. We can probably we'll mention that at the end. Let's let Dave go on to his report. Okay. Dave go on. But while everyone could pause now, just to look on the Melbourne intentional company festival website. Yeah, while you're listening. Yeah. Anyway, I want to talk about a note who's in charge at 23 years old, younger than all of us. It's bossing the even the guides that he's been bossed around by. Definitely change

a lot. Bruce Springsteen wrote born around at 24. You've mentioned that several times. That's my fact of the month. How about this fact? But Meryl Streep didn't appear in a feature film until she was 27. Which is younger than older than I am, so I could still be the Meryl Streep of my generation. Day 27 this year. This could be our year. Or our year to die enjoying the 27th Club. You've got to have done something.

I think you've got to have done something of night to join the club. God, you're a piece of shit. Oh, the four men, the note and his crew, lived very closely together in the jungle had very limited supplies. All they had was their uniforms, obviously they're wearing a small amount of underwear under no circumstances. Are you two wear underpants under pain of death? Unless it's like one of those coconut bras that you put together.

The only thing if you must wear a coconut bra well, then you wear a coconut bra. But we will need to see a medical certificate. Yeah. Where was it? Anyway, if you must wear a coconut bra, put on these the doctor gives you permission. Okay. The jungle doctor.

That they had their uniforms, a little bit of rice. Coconut bra, a small amount of rice, they had their guns and limited ammunition, so they had to be a bit sparing with their bullets, and some grenades. Sure. But they were unlimited. I'm so busy.

Yeah. I'll limit a grenade. It's hard to do some cheat code, I mean, they they were unlimited. I live in a grenade. It's hard to do some cheat code, I mean, that I had unlimited grenades. Matt, that was quite funny. Fuck you. It was like there. They were asked, they got one whist from Regina. You can have unlimited anything and they're all thinking food, food, food.

Notice like grenades. Oh, fuck. I should've said coconuts they did end up eating coconuts which is what the the order had been if you need to eat coconuts and they had raw wild bananas from the jungle sometimes they would make late-night raids into the island villages and still food and sometimes beer they lived in huts in the dense jungle that they built from bamboo and relied on a notice guerrilla warfare training and ability to survive food and sometimes beer. They lived in huts in the dense jungle that they built from bamboo

and relied on a notice guerrilla warfare training and ability to survive. Wow. So you sort of really... It's funny because you say like they did lieu off coconuts because that was the order. It'd be funny if there's like a full buffet available to them but they're like no no we were told coconuts. I'm a man of principle. We're not doing that just the coconuts. UTS. Yeah, they're saying it in the five-star hotel. The downstairs of the buffet. Yeah, which is included. Yeah, it's the one guy making custom made pancakes. They sit there bringing coconut stem. They're going up to coconut. That is crying whilst the skinning is coconut inside.

The war in Europe concluded in May 1945 when the Nazi surrendered. The Allies... Oh, Dave, sorry. Sorry to bring that up. The Allies, I must emphasize that they are my team. Interesting. Called for the Uncoupers. Yeah, who's a flip flipper, eh?

Hmm. I always back a winner. The Allies called for the unconditional surrender of the Japanese armed forces in the Potsdam Declaration a few months later July 26, 1945, the alternative being prompt and utter destruction. So that was an ultimatum given to Japan. The Japanese response to this ultimatum was to ignore it. Oh. Or pretend they didn't get it.

Sorry, I got lost to my drafts. So yes, sorry. Got to my outbox, you know. I meant to get to that. Sorry about that. Oh dear. Can I still get paid for that gig, even though it's a new financial year?

Has something that I've been going through this week? Ha ha ha ha. Wow, new financial year. Plus nine months. And I also ignored the email about complete another destruction. Ty. It's been a big wait, big wait So they ignore the email Mostly because no one in Japan has a computer yet

Sure Then on the 6th of August, you know of That's right, then on the 6th of August 1945 an atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima and American President Harry Astrumin called for Japan's surrender, warning it to expect a rain of ruin from the air, a light of which has never been seen on this earth. This was only the second ever nuclear explosion. Did you know this before dropping the bomb on Hiroshima, that only evaded one bomb?

Oh wow, I do know that. The test of one and one they'd only have a tested one bomb. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. The tested one, and that works. It dropped it on people. Oh my God. Dave, how was, like, I'm semi-interested in this stuff, but I'd, you know, this topic's great, but the wars and stuff, but I don't know that much about them.

What, was it necessary for them to win, or was this like an unnecessary use of force by America? Obviously it was unnecessary but was it likely that they were going to lose or am I I feel like I'm under the impression that they were in a strong position anyway? So 70 years later people still debate this about whether or not you can kill a couple hundred thousand in a sense of billions in a few minutes in exchange for winning the war which would possibly save millions of lives because the bloody war would keep going and going and going. But who could ever really make that call? The war was likely to go on for years at that stage. Well yeah that have to keep

because Japan are very the tradition at the. As you can see in this story, is give up under no circumstances. And this sort of, I guess, scared them into giving up. Yeah. Wow. But at the same time, I'm not necessarily of the opinion that was the right thing to do. No, God no.

And I think nuclear weapons should ever be used, and hopefully never we use again. But sadly in this story, it did because three days later, another atomic bomb was dropped on Nagasaki. Japan announced it's surrender six days later. They had two and they were thinking, well they're gonna just keep dropping these things if you don't understand. Also six days after this is also six days after the Soviet Union declared war on them. So Russia declared war on Japan as well and that's a pretty scary thing too. Yeah. So with all those things, they're like, you know, this is pretty much lost. So even the proud Japanese, you know, Emperor Gave up.

But being in the middle of the jungle, our foreman had no idea about any of this. They didn't get the email. Out of why, obviously. Yeah, they forgot his charge. Don't have your 3G. Yeah, got to wait for next month for the Dada. Free fresh. Yeah.

Now they did notice activity on the island lesson in late August, but had no idea that the army, that the army they were fighting for had completely surrendered. Wow. Yeah, it's kind of, they're so isolated. And this continued on for 18 months. When a plane dropped thousands of leaflets into the jungle, the leaflets read, the war ended on August 15, come down from the mountains.

But a no-der was too smart to fall for this little trick. That is so funny that they dropped, they're like, how do we communicate with them? Because the Philippines and all these, there's thousands of islands that they've sent troops all these, there's like thousands of islands that they've sent troops to and that's, you know, it's so jungle-filled and you can't just text them or radio them.

So they're like, we'll just drop a bunch of leaflets. That's so clever. Like thousands of them. I find that really smart and funny. I don't know why I think it's funny. Is it funny or are I mental? No, no, that's funny. Cool, thanks. No, that's definitely's funny. Is it funny or are I mental? No, that's funny. Cool, thanks. No, that's definitely very funny. And on the back it had the pizza specials.

Yeah. I want to waste space. Oh, you can. You mustn't. They've got the pizza company to pay for. Yeah. It was a dominoes deal. Two pieces of garlic bread for 1895. That's going to make anyone come down to them out. Two pieces of garlic bread for 1895. It was a different time. Yes. Mummy was worth more than. That's so much. Sorry. Mummy was worth less than. Did I say dollars because I meant yen. Yeah 18 yen, that's nothing. I know there was two smart to fall for this pizza-based trick. There were other cells of Japanese soldiers spread throughout the jungle on this island and occasionally they would be killed or captured. Oh no, no, from the skies, but why who is still shooting at him?

Who's fighting against them? Perhaps it was because a notice group still blew up supply ships with explosives and shot at locals who were farming. Right, so they're getting shot up by like farmers of the shotguns. Yeah, who are getting pissed off that these four men in the jungle are just shooting at them. They're getting pissed off, are they? She's a bit of an overreaction. Drama coins. It was a kind of small secret army cell shoot it. You want your farm every now and then with that new buddy. It's chucking a bloody fit. It's like it's a big drama about it. It's like something a tante. Yeah. Some kid with a BB gun but it's actually just a dude with unlimited grenades throwing them at your house. Oh fuck off! Seriously! That's enough! That's the third house this week! And it's very loud you're doing them late at night. We're trying to sleep

Peter respect after 11 p.m. I'll get the fuck out of this idiot. No grenades after 11. I think that's very reasonable I'll have no loud music, no shouting and no grenades. After 11. After 11. Before 11, blow up as much as you can. Go for it. Unwakens short midnight. I understand you. I'm not gonna be an arty about it. Let's just be reasonable. What's that uranasi grenade dead?

Bang. Actually, in fact, even though the Nazis were on the Japanese side, he was taking no risks. He was. More leaflets were dropped. The next batch. These ones for Mexican. Ooh, now I'm listed. They come through the cuisine.

Two burritos for 1895 yen. And he good case the deer deals. Yes. I love a case the deer. Two case the deer ideas for 1895 Yeah, oh, how much garlic bread. Oh, yeah, two pieces. Oh So when I went to Japan, I'm not a big fan of Japanese cuisine online Matthew over here the fuck not a fan at all So I was at a hotel that I didn't know that was a no option not a fan. I opened your eyes, Matt.

You too, Jess. Not huge, no. Because it's a lot of... Taste, flavor, enjoyment, happiness, good times. Well, I was staying at a hotel that had a rooftop-type bar. Oh, a roof. Make it. We could say, ooh, it had a roof. Ooh, a rooftop type bar. Oh, a rooftop? Okay. We could say, oh, it had a roof.

Ooh, a rooftop. Fancy man. And it had like cocktails and then like nibbles that you could order as well. And I discovered that they had a, they would have a shepherd's pie. That would, for some reason, came with garlic bread. And I discovered that I loved that combo.

And I tried to eat there every single night. My girlfriend thought it was very uncultured and that the staff were laughing at us because we're the only two people that to eat there every single night. My girlfriend thought it was very un-cultured and that the staff were laughing at us because we're the only two people that would go there every night instead of each Japanese food. But I regretted nothing. Garlic bread and... And shippard spy. I would come out of the jungle for that.

Yeah, good call. That's how we'd get you out. Shippard spy. And it was such a good shippard spy. That's not an everyday meal. Such a good shippard spy. Shippard spy. No, it's very heavy. it was such a good chip. It's not an everyday meal. Such a good chip. Sheep it's pie. No, it's very heavy.

I'd have it twice a day if I could. Right now. Okay. All right. Breakfast lunch and dinner, sheep it's pie. Sheep it's like a beef stew topped with mashed potatoes. So it was a stew with a mince. Mince with a bit of carrot and stuff and peas.

And then mash it up. It was almost like a bowling aise. And then cheese on top of that. It's a haven't been eaten a long time. Yeah. That ace. And then, cheese on top of that. Have a name for me in the long time. Yeah. That's a Munch-Dup mate with potato on top. Is it Munch-Dup mate? Munch-Dup.

Munch-Dup. Yes, I don't, I never like to ship it's pie. I've always had it. And then I stopped eating meat. So, you're telling me you're gonna go to Japan and you don't like Japanese food or ship it's pie. Well, you can fucking start. I'm fucked.

Maybe I'll just eat the garlic bread. So be like, I'm gonna. They actually refuse to serve garlic bread on its own. Yeah, well, I'll get somebody that I'm traveling with to get the ship it's pie and I'll eat the garlic bread. I'm afraid they won't allow me. It is weird. I, I, if I have told you this to about,

I was in a winery tour one time. So I do travel. You're cultured. You go to a place where you have your underwear ripped off and thrown into a giant pig. Yeah, you're cultured. You don't go to Elkert has Ireland or the Van Gogh Museum. You know October versus one of the biggest cultural events in the world, guys. Okay, it's about this one. But that that tent is no good. Polarna, lots of fun. The one with the be line at the entry. Good one as well. Don't look at any of these. Okay, great.

The underwear one. It does sound interesting. No, the wine. If you're not wearing underwear, it sounds like it'd be fine. Yeah. Anyway, so winery. Oh, I was just saying,

because you know, you're saying you can't separate them. There was one on this winery tour. The lunch stop was at this winery in up near the Murray and River. There was only one meal and it was chicken with mashed potatoes. I was like, I'm hungry because I've been drinking wine and I need a meal today. I wasn't in big trouble. So I said, is there a vegetarian option? And they're like, no, sorry. I'm like, oh, that's weird.

That's very weird. That's weird in like 2000 and 12 whole things. They would even be vaguely accommodating. Yeah, they wouldn't even, and I'm like, ah, I don't mean, I'm not trying to be fussy on it. Is there any way I could just get, you know, the chicken meal without the chicken? And I'm like, sorry, I'm really sorry.

We can't help you. Oh, it just- They couldn't even take the chicken off the plate. That phrase, we can't help you. I wouldn't even take the chicken off the plate. That phrase, we can't help you. We can't help you. It's a little tough. I had to talk to like two levels up of management before I got a plate of mashed potatoes

and it cost me the full price of $18. What the fuck was it good though? It was a really good mash. It was mashed potato. Yeah. It was missing the chicken to be It was, it was mash potato. Yeah. It was missing the chicken to be honest. So it's far. Because you have to be like, all right,

now you can personally eat my chicken. Yeah, no, that was, that you just reminded me of it then when they're just being like, it was just weird, so it's like, but I mean, you're stuck on a rule that doesn't make any sense. I'm like, I'm happy to pay for the meal. If that's what I have to do. She and me always call on their bluff and they say,

no, we'll give us a couple of bucks or whatever. But now I'm like, yeah, sorry, this is how it is. Sorry, that's a $26 mashed potato. And they had no other options. I understand if it's a sit thing and they've already made that food fine. 100% was not going like, how dare you or anything. I was just like, I just really need to eat some food. Is there any chance I can get anything?

Anyway, now I'm saying like a fucking silk. No, not at all. That's weird. I still think about it every now and then I'm like, what a weird day. Where they were just like, basically going, how dare you. I'm so sorry. How dare you even come up here and ask the question That's really not even gonna help you all that much with your drinking. You know like that's not a good meal to have

Bit of mash. Oh, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to call the CEO And the police You fucking criminal. I know this is some sort of fucking scam Trying to get some pretty much potato. No, no, my fucking watch you get to pay $28 and you're not gonna fucking enjoy it And then I'm gonna make you eat chicken cuz you're a little bastard It probably was like that like Probably that probably like just hit the chicken. Yeah, why can't you see the chicken? Why are you being so stubborn about this? How about you just eat the chicken and you go you're such a nice guy you'd be like yeah, right?

Look I was back in the restaurant. I feel like you do get that a little bit like my husband sometimes like just is mostly vegetarian. I'm like, damn I'm vegetarian, like I'm not mostly, I don't eat meat. No, but you'll have a little bit. No I won. I'm mostly vegetarian. My small toe is being known to consume meat, but the rest of me. The rest of me. The rest of me. It's very funny. So just eat the chicken then.

Omnivall. Matt, just eat the chicken. Yeah, I know why you're making a bit of... I think about Eurethics or the fact that you haven't eaten meat in so long now, if you do eat meat it kind of doesn't sit right. And I don't care about that. This isn't me. Anyway, look, I've moved on.

I don't want to make it sound like I'm carrying this around with me. I am now. I'm carrying it around with me. I am now. I'm carrying it. You passed it on. Do you think about it, Daily? Should we have our first anti-sponsor on the podcast and you name this one, are you gonna be on the other side? I remember the name, if you want to know it.

Yeah, what was it called? Gerrigs. Was it Contrigs? Gerrigs. Not even a good name. Gerrigs. I loved the name, so I went there because they were like, they were related to one of my favorite Saints footballers.

Of course. The G-Chain phrase of Gary. So it's called Gary. You sure it wasn't called Kentucky Fried Chicken? Does that not sound like a noisy make when you have like, intergestion of a Gary? The kernel was being very unreasonable. Even the kernel would have let me eat the chips.

Exactly. Or the mash. Chips and mash and coleslaw, you would have had a rounded meal at the kernels. And I love the idea. Well, we can give you just the chicken, or the chicken and the mash. Chips and mash and coleslaw, you would have had a rounded meal at the kernels. And I love the idea. Well, we can give you just the chicken, or the chicken and the mash, but not just the mash. Like, if you'd asked for no mash, they would have been fine.

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Newspapers with details of the war being over were left throughout the jungle. Photographs and letters from relatives were dropped. A notice said, I assumed my relatives were living under the occupation and had to obey the authorities to survive. That's a love that kind of level of pessimism and paranoia. People spoke out over loudspeakers throughout the jungle, telling them it was all over, but to the men there was always something suspicious. So they never believed the war had really ended. Japan would never give up, and they were specifically told to never surrender.

Yes, I love it. I can't enjoy that. Because you are actually quite defiant and stubborn. Let's be honest. Shit, this would be you. Whereas I'd be like, I definitely would have killed myself. I can relate to them on some level apart from being general bad asses but I, the stubbornness, I'd probably do a bit of. Do a bit of.

I do a bit of that stubbornness. You dabble in stubbornness? A dabble. I was thinking what I was relating to it on one level, and quite similar, is when I'm in like a public place, and someone's going, Hey, Matt, Matt, hey, Matt, I won't turn around because I just assumed they're talking with different Matt That's the dumbest thing I've ever Would it be here another name Dave Dave? Clearly forgotten my name I'll turn around. There's a lot of Matt's out there Jess. There's a lot of Jess's Matt

I'd still turn around. No. I turn around when people say yes Because it sounds so similar. People say yes, and I get hmm. I turn around when people say yes because it sounds so similar. People say yes and I go hmm. I never have that. Yeah but if somebody is saying yes I hear them. Well eventually they come up with a tackle. Would you not recognize someone's voice? Like if I can't come up and tap you on the shoulder. What if I need help and I'm yelling Matt. Matt. Help me Matt. What do I, help? Help me, Matt. And if I yell help would you then

turn around or would you say if somebody else will deal with that? If someone's saying help. You turn around. You assume that they're talking to someone else. Yeah. But also like maybe what if I said something that was more specific to you?

If I said Matt's chew it or. Yeah, Matt's chew is probably getting close. I thought you'd maddy. If I yelled maddy. So did you just say Matt's chew is probably getting close. That's getting Mattie. So did you just say Matt's shoe is probably getting close. It's getting closer. You just allow me to turn around. What's my middle name?

I grew up around the corner from a guy with my same name. Oh fuck off. We see him so James. Yeah. He was also a Matthew James. Good heavens. So I was just like, what are the chances? What if I yelled, oh big balls.

Oh I got it. Oh is that? Oh it's a bomb, I could be many people who know about, do you ever go, my special condition, my silver, silver big balls. I've had them coated. With silver? Yeah, and bigness. I've had liars added.

Wow. Is that expensive? Yes. Did you use some do-go money for that? I used to use some of our money for that. Did you use some of our money for that? Of course I did. It's the only money I have.

I live off this. That is the Patreon treasure. He is. We are yet to see a dollar. Yeah. But we have seen many yen. Many yen. Many yen.

Maybe yen. Many yen. Oh, many good yen many yen many good yen a few good yen you know what's going for anyway do go on so back on Lubang Island the locals had tried to rebuild their lives over the first couple of years after the war and they went back to their old routines farming as best they could and they fucking hate a no-donnie's man. A no-dot thought that they were in on it too, that the farmers were the enemy he wrote, we considered people dressed as islanders to be enemy troops in disguise or enemy spies. The proof that they were was that whenever we fired on one of them,

a search party ruffed shortly afterwards. A search party. It one of them a search party, you're right, shortly afterwards. That's so sad. That's sad. That sounds suspicious. The search party was probably just trying to find out who the fuck just shot my mom. Who shot my mom? Was it you? Your mom was a spy. Yeah.

How very convenient. I shot one of you when you came looking for the murderer. Mmm. Miss Marble. Fuck off. I noticed that he wanted his own territory. He wrote to expand we had to break in the locals. I materialized to destroy things, threatening them, lighting fires and empty houses.

So he also burnt their farms to the ground. Oh Jesus Christ. It's so weird that they looked for him. Do you reckon? But he was so good that he'd never got him or not to this point. Or a dude day. I wonder what would it take, Jess, for him to be convinced? The president of the band?

No, because then it's an imposter. Oh, yes. It's just Madame Tussauds come to life. Not again. The enemy has clearly invented some sort of machine. Will they bring the Emperor back to the line? He would definitely believe that before. Yeah.

The youngest of the group, 22-year-old Akutsu, got sick of the raw bananas, coconuts, lighting farms on fire, and jungle living. So one day... What a suck. Y'all. Oh, burning houses. Y'all. Boring. Sick of bananas. Burning, burning houses. Y'all.

Boring. Sick of bananas. Burning houses in Australia says like a great program. We can host that. Yeah. Burning houses. On the episode of Burning Houses in Australia, Matt's like, oh, fuck, this is boring.

Whereas like, you're talking to the camera and no one knows where I am, but then behind you, a fire start. And then I run out of that. This is like a little gasoline cut. Like, giggling to myself. This week's episode we burn a mansion. I can't listening.

I'm back in. Follow me up. Matt, Matt's somehow tries to sit fire to a pool? Yeah, let's fucking let's up the ante everybody in the pool Is anyone home we forgot to check It was a big house. That's normally the producers job, but there's a sick today. We didn't check Hey, we don't want to break an enter and break the law Oh, no, we just throw a Molotov cocktail through several windows and several locations other house Okay, yeah, is that all right? Question in McGee and if people happen to be home, that's their fault for living in a mansion

Capitalism gone mad. Fuck the mansion That's our mother fuck the mansion and Fuck them. That's your mother. Fuck the mansion. Man, shun. And one day we have a crossover episode where we find a big mansion owned by a man called shun. And we fucking, we fucking, we fucking, we fuck the mansion. We fuck the man, shun. Yeah. Do I have to say it again? We make him reach it. And then another crossover episode, we throw a Molotov cocktail into a mansion, but there are antiques in there.

Antiques Rocher. The house is on wheels. It's a real rocher. That's great. Is a broke there because of my own joke, which wasn't really a joke. You were laughing at the audacity of yourself. It was just you saying, antics right show. It didn't work at all.

Stop trying to contribute, Jess. There are antics there. Antics for sure. You're right, it is funny. Some of the antics are collectible children's toys, power rangers. Ah! Hmm? Cross over?

Ah! Kids will love it. Have you noticed that we've had several tweets of people asking us to do a power ranger's episode? No. There's been at least three. There's a new movie coming out, I believe. Oh, that's funny.

And takes her back. That's very good. Very good. Very good indeed. So we got a kutsu, the guy who's sick of eating coconuts bananas and burning shit down. Did I get this right? The oldest guy, the leader is 23 and the youngest guy is 22. Yeah.

But no, but there is, the actual oldest of the group was 30 when they went in. Right. But he's just, he's outranked. Fair enough. He's out of noted. But this guy, a kutsu. Imagine being in your 30s and hang out with people in their 20s. Sounds sad.

Imagine that. Imagine being that your thirties and hanging out with people in their 20s. Sounds sad. Imagine that. And imagine being that kind of psychopath. Ew. Yucky. Imagine if one of them was your boss, AKA me. Imagine trying to bond with them or fit in. You just wouldn't, you just wouldn't fit in. Couldn't do it.

They're so fucking dumb. Haven't lived. Nah, they're young, fresh. They'll be really hard to communicate with such in the soil. And you're old and stuck in your ways. And they haven't even haven't seen anything. They haven't done anything. Both of them have what do they know? Nothing. The other two have been to Alcatraz and the Old Man hasn't.

I mean, they've seen old buildings and I think that's wisdom. Yeah, the old man's just a lot. The real wisdom is people. Life's about. no, conversations. You know what life's about? At Tix Rocho. Oh, that is good. And that's maturity. At Tix Rocho. Oh, there's Bob got a new catchphrase, how long?

Well, you're saying that I'm a show. At Tix Rocho. Hashtag, at Tix Rocho. I'm sure that At Tix Ro show? Hashtag antics roger. I'm sure that antics roger has tag is not taken. Any mail from now on don't tweet it to us just tweet it with the hashtag antics roger. I'm sure we'll find it. It'll get to us. So for the fifth time there's a dude called a kutsu who's just stopped giving a fuck. He doesn't want to even earn as coconuts anymore.

So one day without telling the others he decides to surrender. The only problem is he didn't know which way was the way out of the jungle and it took him six months to find anyone to surrender to. But he lived. All I wanted to was surrender. Oh shit surrender. Oh shit for six months on his And the others were like how big is his island? Everyone's like where do you go? well And of course to a note it he was crazily suspicious the group now to down to

Down to three he thought this was some sort of security leak and the other guy was possibly in on a whole time So he had to be careful about moving to a new position. A lot of this guy. He's so great. He, you know what else is great? It takes much more time. It's bad, um. Bad things that are old, but still valuable. Unlike Matt. Oh, my favorite game is watching. My wish did it might not be valuable. Both. I love watching Andy's roger and guessing how much things are worth. Yeah. Four pounds 50. Oh generous.

Sure. What's the question? How much you're worth? All right. Four pounds 50. Yeah. How is the pound going these days? Dave, you came up to date with currency? Pretty well actually. Brexit did well for it, didn't it? Dropped a bit. I think it's pounds back. Pounds back.

Yeah, good one about four. It's for the pound. I remember going to pound pint knots. So that's four and a half pints and the right knot. Pound pint knots. Pounds and bloody pints are those. Oh, my God. point notes. Bounce and bloody points of those. Now the oldest guy, the oldest guy was Shimada. He was 30. Yeah. Now 37 years old. They've been in the dump for seven years. Whoa!

Look at that antics road show. Yeah, click first. Try it again. Talk about. Talk about. No, click. Talk about click. Talk about Antics Roadshow. Nailed it. Seemless. Fake for you. Oh, that's what you sound like a legend. Add it as a mega sound like really like a really good. Oh, I've got a good click. So Shimada's the oldest one. He was 30. Now he's 37 years old. So they've been in the junk for seven years of this one. Hang on hang on that math. That's obvious. He was Shot in the leg during a shootout with a local fisherman in June 1953 After which a no-der nursed him back to health which is incredible when he considered he had no first aid suppliers or medicine at all. Wow Sadly was all in vain because the following year 1954, Shimada was killed by a shot fired by a search party looking

for the men. Oh no. Which to me is the world's fucking worst search party in history. There they are! Oh fuck, I shot him in the head. Now I can't tell if it's him or not. Oh no. Oh no. So he was dead. He's gone. So now there's two men left. Kazuka, now 33, and our leader Anoda, now 32 years old. So they've been there nine years. And remember they've been hiding for what is almost undoubtedly no reason. Yeah. No reason. And almost the thirder there was. It's crazy, isn't it? In 1959, Lieutenant Anoda's file was officially changed from missing an action to killed in action. Oh. Back home. So they just assumed that no one could still be out there.

But they said they'd come back for them. They've given up on him. They didn't give it up. They dropped flies multiple times. They came back sort of. Yeah, for the first like five years and then they're like, Oh, well, yeah, I guess they'd fair assumption. And every now and then a search party we go out looking for them often the local community because like all the police because someone from the hills was shooting at the farm yeah Matt how long would you hang in there just

so we know just for out of spite andborn, just because I don't wanna go, no guys, it's been five years, we should assume he's been killed in action. Look, I don't know how, I mean, how much of the farmers double crossing me. Well. Like a what? Haves. Yeah, they're the enemy.

Their soldiers dressed up as farmers. 100 years. Dude, wait a hundred years. Okay, good to know. Give or take. Keep looking for as farmers. 100 years. Dude, wait 100 years. Okay, good to know. Give or take. Keep looking for you then. 200 would be safe. Yeah, 200 years.

And then we'd give up. That's him, Spir. I think so. Antics Roadshow. He was now, that's the new cat phrase that I do go on. So it's now just a no-da and kuzuka living together, huddling in the rain, eating coconuts, making raids, and waiting for their next official order.

Sounds kind of great. Sounds kind of romantic. Sounds like a sitcom. Yeah. So these two men are there. They believe it's there due to keep information on the enemy. Should the Japanese army ever arrive and need it again? So they're sort of trying to keep notes up here. You know what I'm saying? Wow. So it's just the two. Sorry to clarify Dave was tapping his head. I was not tapping my penis. Got notes up here. I don't know why my penis is up. You are tapping it now. I actually am.

Sorry. I'm a method actor. So tap your penis at me. You're a flaccid actor. Nothing flaccid about this act. Oh no. Stop it. So it was just the two of them.

Just the two of us. I actually paused because I need just one thing that. It was just, and it was just the two of them for another 18 years. Fuck off. Another 18 years. On top of the nine. No. On top of the nine.

They stuck it out. Too many in the jungle wearing the same clothes. Probably, no underwear, remember. of the nine. They stuck it out two men in the jungle wearing the same clothes, probably no underwear, remember. Imagine, even on the day you deployed, you accidentally wore your worst pair of underwear, like your emergency pair, like your shit elastic. And then you had to keep wearing that for 27 fucking years. That's as old as us. They spent more, I meant your whole lifespan, Jess. Are we sure that they're wearing the same clothes? I mean, they were burning down empty houses. Surely they'd grab a

spare change of clothes. But then they'll be taking off their uniform, which would be treasonous. Oh my god. That's amazing. Not fully treason, just treasonous. Treasonish. Treasonish. That's treasonish. But there's no defense in a military call. So I mean, it was treasonish. Why'd you try to assassinate the Prime Minister? Treasonish, come on. I don't know if it's cut and draw.

There you go. There's your, I love that argument. There you go. Oh, come on. There you go. In Australia, it seems like that could get you off though. There you go. There's your, I love that argument. There you go. Oh, come on. There you go. In Australia, it seems like that could get you off though. There you go. I've got a figure.

Gone. All right. Gone. Oh, figure. Yeah, right. A figure. I don't think. A figure, buddy, go.

Remember when we hit a Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, whose catchphrase was, fair shake over the source bottle. Yeah. That was a Prime Minister's catchphrase. Thanks a lot of sense. What's our prime minister's catchphrase? Jobs and growth. Oh yeah, of course. Jobs and growth. Hey growth, mostly. Is it really? That's what he promises. He supports the hairdressing industry. Yeah, but how do we grow? I thought not cutting. Yeah, Ashley Martin. Oh, from the big sponsors. The other prime minister and Shane Warren.

Yeah, big sponsor. I think you'll find that Shane Warren is from advanced here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there you go. Advanced here, yeah. Yeah. What's his catchphrase? Advanced here, clinics. Yeah, yeah. That was the catchphrase. That was the terrible catchphrase. And not as good as. Yeah, yeah, that was the catchphrase. That was the terrible catchphrase. That was the terrible catchphrase. And that was good as...

Yeah, yeah. Antique's road check. That's so funny. That's it, yeah, yeah. It might be if he clicked. Yeah. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. No.

Fuck. Is that not new? What is it? Oh. Advanced hair, yeah, yeah. That's terrible. Fuck and hate that a lot. Yeah, it's so bad.

I didn't get it. But it became like... I mean, it worked terrible fucking hate that a lot I didn't get it, but it became it became like it worked It went and went but it also when it became like a thing that people said oh yeah, I can't ever remember What decade is this I've never heard anyone say that advance here. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I hate it I must have been I don't think I've ever hated anything more in my life It was I think it was when it came out Greg Matthews. Remember him No, okay It used to be all cricketers is it I have told me I've made that up. It says mid 1990s more in my life. I think it was when it came out. Greg Matthews, you remember him? No. It used to be all cricketers.

I have told me I've made that up. It says mid 1990s. That's all fucking hell. That makes sense. And it says New Zealand TV ads to first-handedly come up. Okay. So you weren't watching New Zealand TV. It was when we were small children and it was in a different country.

Oh, I'd been here yeeeah a different country. Oh, advanced here, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Oh, sorry, yeah. That was bloody great. We misunderstood. Dave, that was very funny. Oh, I had nothing like a little jet. And that is why they haven't invaded us because we ridicule them at every turn.

I'm pretty sure they do it back. There's a lot they can tease us for. I mean, we don't fuck shapes, that's all right. There's a lot they can taste us for. I mean we don't fuck shape So that's alright. Oh, we do have quite a few news and listeners. Oh, no, I'm just kidding. You're very much I don't think they fuck shape. Yeah, no, mate. It's just a joke. Well, is that a funny joke? Oh, fuck off I just pulled you up on the point. Let me just hand things road show you right there It's like that envy's Dave for always having a joke answer to a question and that's what I Mean I mean great question

Geez always what do we think so much for us? great question. Jeeze always. What do we think? Thanks so much for asking. Can we have some brainstorming time? It was Dave's like I've got a joke. It's a little weird but Matt is a good... I keep thinking this is a serious show. It's not at all. It's great to get. I will remember one day that we're doing company. No. I'll join in. Hey Dave, sorry to keep interrupting you. Please do go on. This episode has felt looser than... Yeah, sorry, Bella. You say that most weeks. Yes, true.

I'm not one. Okay. No, nearly there. Okay. In October, 1972, at the age of 51, and after 27 years of hiding in the jungle, Kazuka was killed during a clash with a Filipino patrol, whilst he was burning a local rice field.

So 27 years later he's still burning down rice fields. I don't know if it feels like maybe he wasn't fully on top of life. Right. I feel like he just needs something to pass the time. Yeah, that a bit of paramain here. Or was it that he just never wanted to go back and get a real job? Hmm. Do you think he was a bit of a lay-about?

Maybe he didn't like his wife. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, he didn't like his wife. I didn't want to get that to him. But, yeah, and he excused her to get away from the body. Ball of charge. Ball of charge. I hope, Jason, you know what they like.

Well, I did read about one of these Japanese holdouts who held out for a couple of decades and on the American overseas territory of Guam and apparently after the first five years He lived in a hole that he dug for himself and after the first five years he found out that the war was over But he was too afraid to go back and surrender Like he didn't want to look like he was giving up. He didn't want to go home and admit So he just stayed just stayed for like he was giving up, he didn't want to go home and admit. So he just stayed. He just stayed for another 10-15 years on his own. No.

And the weirdest part about that, there were other men also in holes, like a few kilonew meters spread out, but they'd meet up sometimes, but then they'd decide to sleep, like stay alone at night. For years. That is so bad. But these people aren't like that. They still think they're part of the nation I'd be like it's done and I'm already on a plane somehow like I'd be straight out

Straight out me too First opportunity wouldn't be there in the first place I know that had been declared Our 13 years earlier, but after the Filipino patrol killed his partner whose body was sent back to Japan They started to think that maybe a no-der was in fact alive. So it became a big story in the newspapers, because no one had ever seen his body, and there'd been stories of a couple of people shooting at farmers. Now one of them's gone, they thought no-ders out there.

So both the Japanese and Filipino government sent out search parties into the jungle, but they couldn't find a no-der who was now completely alone. Still remembering his orders, he decided he couldn't kill himself or surrender He had at this point spent more than half of his entire life in the jungle Half of your life wearing the same underpants. You're really hanging on to the underpants, are you? I think it'd be I love the idea of the ban of rego. Imagine how much Japan would have changed Mm-hmm in that time. It's all I was thinking too.

Crazy. It's kind of like when you hear about people getting out of prison and like you know technologies advanced so much and then he's been living in a jungle for half more than half his life. You couldn't go about, you couldn't function. What year are we up to now? 1972. Oh it's the 70s.

So 27 years later. Holy shit! The 70s missed all of the 60s. He's now, and the 50s. He's now into his 50s. The whole world has changed so much. He's trying much. He was 23 and now he's 50.

That's incredible. Oh shit. I love it. Then we come to another incredible man, named Norio Suzuki. Probably the opposite of Anoda in many ways, not good at following orders and a definite hippie-free spirit. But one thing that they had in common was that they're both crazily determined and would

persevere where nearly everyone else would give up. Suzuki was born in Japan in 1949, four years after the war ended, and when a no-da had already been hiding for four years. He studied economics at Hosei at university, but dropped out and decided to explore the world. On his world travels he visited H.O. the Middle East in Africa and in 1972, after four years of wandering the world and paying for the trip by donating blood and working on farms, he decided to return to Japan and found himself surrounded by what he felt as fake. So he'd been away for four years and came back to Japan and it had changed so much. So

imagine how much it changed for the other guy. Wow. But Suzuki had read of the killing of Kazuka and about the possibility that a note was still alive. A note had now turned into a bit of an urgent... ...an urgent... a sea urchin. Oh, fuck. He was a sea urchin now. He had changed form. No, he turned into it. He's so stubborn. You've been eating the camera.

An urchin. Jesus. You've heard of a hermit. This is an urchin. Hello. Erchin, for some reason. You know, he turned into an urban legend back to Japan, but most people thought he probably wasn't actually alive. There's one of the fucking chances 27 years later that the guy's still in the jungle.

Yeah. So, but reading about him left Suzuki to conclude that he wanted to search for Lieutenant Anoda, a panda, and the abominable snowman in that order. Fuck, that's the best. Lieutenant Anoda, a panda and the Obama and all snowman in that order. Fuck, that's the best! Also, did I mention, was it, did I mention on the podcast that I can't say the word before snowman? Abominable. Abominable.

I have to imagine a bomb inside a ball. Abominable! Abominable! That's the only way I can do it. Abominable. Abominable. Abominable. Abominable. There you go, I said it

Yeah, he said it A bomb in a ball You made a big deal about nothing in there just You just changed the lives of many listeners because I will always think of a bomb A bomb in a ball A bomb in a ball Thanks to my ex-boyfriend for that And nothing else Thanks Gary

Thanks Gary He was not Gary He was not Gary Gary, you lie him Yeah, I dated Gary I knew he had a bit of infidelity in him, but really? Oh. And what? And he said something earlier in this episode to me, do you mean?

That was a different Gary. He changed a lot of the lives. He changed a lot of the lives. Like the one for you and not for you. Yeah, I mean, capable of love. Gary. Gary, no. You're carrying it. Suzuki. Ah, but

I'm sorry. Travel to Lou bank and begin wandering the jungle with a very simple strategy to find a no-der. What he would do was wander the jungle yelling a no-der's name at the top of his life. Well, if he is at all like me, that is not gonna work. But if he yells big balls. I'm guessing it's another no-der. He's probably talking about one another. It's gotta be. I mean, how many But if you yell big balls, I'm guessing it's another a note of He's probably talking about one another. It's gotta be I mean how many are you know what is it? It can be a nice uncle the guy. There's a guy yelling at my name here for me. I doubt it good luck I'd be fine the other a note of mate. I'm not saying that to you. I'm looking I'm walking on So search party after search party leaflet. Leaflet. No one's been able to find this guy.

There's now the leaflets of a gym's mowing. We'll clip your hedges for money, which is the way most businesses work that way to be honest. Food delivery for all cousins. Most of my mail is food delivery things. Yeah. I'm just getting mail. Anyway. Send your fan mail. Yeah, do. You need to read.

No, I don't. You need to read, is it really? Yeah, it is a unit three. You've basically given it away. Yeah, how many units? We need to read. Send it to unit three. We can set up a pair of box.

Oh, that would be great, actually. Fan mail. Send it to unit three. We can set it set up a pair of box. Oh, that would be great actually and male But then they could send us creepy things too That's fine Is that fine? Okay, well you can open all the envelopes all right anthrax boy. I will with my mouth Just to be so just to be so I don't want anything touching these beautiful hands Oh, no, I've got anthrax on my hands. Oh, well never he may say that.

Oh what is power in my mouth? You might name me say that. It's a bit obnoxious when she laughs on it. People love it. The millions of tweets we get. I love it. It's the only obnoxious when she laughs on that day. People love it. There are millions of tweets we get. I love it. It's the only feedback I get. There was some...

You know, I'm a person as well, guys. There's a person behind the laugh. There was one. That was a great autobiography title. The person behind the laugh. Like, I am a human, and I make some good points every now and then. Look.

I'm not just a laugh. To the listeners, I see Jess quite a lot, but I never really see Jess. Because that laugh is just so big. It's hard to get through it. People didn't say it was obnoxious early, I think man, the you. It's so obnoxious. I'm going to have to edit that out. There's something that Jess often used to say. And David and I was like, I was like, David, I was like, and David was like, and I was like, you leave that in. And you know, there's a rest of this, there's history. Spacely main day, if you like, just laugh. It's because of you too.

It is because I'm laughing at you. Hang on, no, you made yourself laugh before. So as I said, I make some good jokes sometimes. A solo podcast, you actually be fine. No, I wouldn't. That's why I don't like my own reports because they're not, I don't laugh. I have no fun on them. Well, maybe you should do a report on something else. And you should do a report on something else.

Oh, okay. Please don't suggest EdTigs Roadshow. I don't think there's enough information. I'm going for dick eight. Yeah, but he's heard enough on them. Every episode is about amazing, interesting stories of artifacts. I find them all. How do they find them all? I'd love to know the production of it.

Anyway, Dave opening the mail with his mouth is very funny. This is a very interesting piece. Oh, it's there. Yeah. That's a big brass, mat Stewart's testicle. Oh, do you? circa 1834, I believe. do you realize what you have here? Do you do you know the significance of this this ball?

What accent this ball it changed a lot there it went from like English to French very quickly I This sure is not about me, does it? No one knows Japanese. I was thinking of a no-da. Oh my god. That was your Japanese impression. It was not good. I will not do it again. It's still standard French.

Well, I'm just going to rewind and replay. Hmm. Maybe turn it into some sort of a club dance hit. Oh, hello. They still do this? A club dance hit. Yeah. I don't know.

We'll find out. I know that doesn't even know what a club dance here is. No, because he's in the jungle that long. It's the 70s. He's like for years. He's been yelling, I'm a celebrity, get me out of here. And nothing has happened. He's had no response. He was before his time. Anyway, tell us more about Suzuki walking around a jungle. He's yelling his name. I'm waiting for this guy to invent some sort of motorbike Is he he's not the Suzuki or car or the orca killer. Wow. Yeah, he's gonna invent an orca or the acting instructor Suzuki, I think he was talking about The Atlantic's right. So Suzuki. He's one, remember, they've sent dozens of

tusses party, so it's like that. But he just goes by himself. On his own, how long are you going to take to find him? Two weeks. He found him. Because you ask it's short, I would have thought. I know, it should be years, but I'm guessing it's going to be.

Month, maybe. You do a month. I'm going to say six weeks. He found a no-da in four days When a no-da I'm not kidding for just four days of yelling I wonder how long he would have you would have tried on a man that's been hiding for 29 years When a no-da was first discovered he was ready to shoot Suzuki at first sight, but fortunately Suzuki had read all about him and quickly said, oh no Disan, the Emperor and the people of Japan are worried about you.

Oh, and also he's just a man on his own, it's not a big search party with guns, it's just some, he said, a note I got talking to Suzuki who he described as a hippie boy and they became friends. To some degree. How would you have known what a hippie boy was? Hippies haven't changed that much. He created the concept of hippies. Yeah, 40's hippies very similar, because you know how fashion goes around in trends.

It's cyclical. By the time it sort of circled around, the hippies were very similar and the 70's as they were in the 40's, which was lucky, actually, so he could identify with a hippie boy. Sick. It's true, Matt. I get it now. That is fascinating. Yeah, see, I make some good points.

I'm not just a doctor's laugh. No, you have so much more than that. You're also really dulled points. I mean, good points, whatever you were saying, I'm sorry I wasn't listening. So they became friends, Dave says, trying to defuse the situation. Friends much like Matt and Jess are sometimes. But always Dave. But at least from my angle, just as dagger eyes disagree.

But Anoda refused to surrender. Even though the war was well and truly over, he said he would have to surrender. He'd have to be ordered to surrender by one of his superior officers, who are all... It's like retired. So Suzuki returned Japan with photographs of himself and Anoda as proof of their encounter, and the Japanese government located Anoda's commanding officer, Major Yoshimi Tani Guchi, who had since become a bookseller. He was not along with the army.

Also, do you think Suzuki at least took some spare clothes and some food for him? Like, he's just like, okay, you good with that? I mean, I've got a tent here. I brought with me, but are you good? Do you want some? He was a little bit jazz, he doesn't care about earthly possessions like clothes.

30 years later, I'm I'm I don't fit into clothes that fit me a couple years ago okay I'm guessing you might need a change of clothes anyway what have I gone are you still growing I am still grown but mum had to take up on the pants. You turned all your pants into shorts. Yeah, I'm going little. I'm getting small. I'm going little. I'm going to have. I'm going to get a little for a while.

I'll see what that's like. Can you take up my pants? I'm not as long as I was in my early 20s. Dave? So they found the major. They flew him to Lou Bang where on March 9th 1974 he finally met with a no-da and fulfilled the promise made in 1944. Whatever happens, all come back for you. Okay, 30 years later. Oh no, that was thus properly relieved of Judy and he surrendered. He'd been

living in the jungle for over 29 years. That's incredible. Just 29, how does that feel? Well, I can't even fathom that amount of time because I just haven't got there in my life yet. But it's so close on us, round now. No, would you prefer to be way to 30 years? Absolutely, I would. Absolutely, I would. You know I would.

Why are you joking? He lived in the jungle more than you ever exist. Yeah. It's insane. It's incredible. He turned over his sword, his functioning rifle, which he'd kept in perfect working order. He will not let that go. I will fix this. It's fast, it's fast.

Oh, interesting. 500 rounds of ammunition. He's still at 500 rounds. And several hand grenades. I mean, an unlimited supply of hand grenades. He rounds of ammunition. He still had 500 rounds. And several hand grenades. I mean, an unlimited supply of the units. He handed that back. As well as the dagger his mother had given him in 1944 to kill himself if he was ever captured. Sorry, mum. Remember, that's the crazy mum that instructed him to stab himself when he was six. Jesus.

Although he had killed many people, including innocent farmers and engaged in shootouts with police, the circumstances, namely the fact that he believed the war was still going, were taken into consideration and Anota received a pardon from the Filipino president, Ferdinand Marcos. Anota was so popular following his return to Japan, some Japanese people urged him to run for Japanese government. What skills would he have for the politician? And some Japanese people urged him to run for Japanese government. He decided not to do this. What skills would he have for a politician?

He'd have been able to talk to people. He'd have to do anything. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is.

He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He'd have to know what anything is. He also released an autobiography called No Surrender, My Thirty Year War.

He was very famous, but he did not like what he saw. Japan had changed so much in 30 years. He did not like the tall buildings, automobiles, or the culture he saw is the withering of traditional Japanese values. Oh, what a broken his heart. It was happening. It was fighting for against the Americans. It's all there.

It's all there. Like, the ideals that he'd held onto for 30 years. No, no. Living in the same fucking underpants. Because now everyone's got these flash bloody Calvin Climes on. Japan recovered quite well from the Second World War. Is it a losing, because after the Second World War, there was some lessons learned. After the First World War, where the punishment really pushed the losing

nations into poverty and kind of brought on Second World War, is that right? And also I believe that Japan did quite well because one of the conditions was you're not allowed to have a big army anymore so then they spent the money that was going into their big military on other stuff which actually helped develop the economy quite well. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. helped develop the economy quite well. What's interesting? In April and also how Japan became quite a tech-savvy nation leading the way in many things. I imagine because of that kind of thing. But it's very different from 1945 Japan.

In April 1975, he followed the example of his elder brother and left Japan for Brazil where he raised cattle and lived in a Japanese colony. Wow, he married the following year. A note of return to Japan in 1984 and established the Anoda Nature School, an educational camp for young people, held various locations in Japan. He revisited Lubang Island in 1996 and donated $10,000 US dollars for a local school there. I imagine that's a bit of a peace offering. Sorry about... Sorry I shot your dad. And setting fire to your house again.

Old habits die hard, burn the school! Hahaha! I know the died of heart failure on the 16th of January 2014 aged 91 which is not that long ago yet. We're 91. Which says a lot about an all coconut diet. That was in our life.

Yeah mate. Like nearly in the podcast life. The next year the podcast started. We almost lived in the same universe. Okay. Cross over. We still kind of did. We almost lived in the same universe. Okay. Cross over. We still kinda did.

Hmm. Give me that. We do live outside the podcast. Now we don't. Can we? Lowell. When asked if he... Lowell.

Is it before he? Pronouns Lowell weed. Lowell. Wow. Tell young people that. Oh. Get with the times met. The old man. I don't know what I was thinking cool. I knew out on how you pronounce a word That isn't a word. Yeah, never heard said out loud. That's not true. I've had a lot what am I talking about?

I've lost it let Dave talk. I'm so close to the end. Me too You are you're so old. So old. End of it all. Every time we come in here, it's like the podcast is your deathbed. Ah, it feels like anyone could be the last. But before he died, a no-da was asked if he regretted his decision to live in the jungle for nearly 30 years.

He said, fuck an eye for dead! Are you kidding me? I noticed a day that his mind had been on nothing but accomplishing my duty. He regretted nothing and was proud of his choices. That's incredible. I feel a little silly. You would wouldn't yeah.

Yeah, I'd feel a bit silly. What, man, what was he, this day's just, he gets up in the morning for 30 years and goes out. More war on, let's get ready for war. Let the morning for 30 years and goes out. More war on. Let's get ready for war. Let's get burnin'. Let's get burnin'. Empty houses, this little bloody bring us closer to the end.

No, no, why don't we sleep in the house and wear the clothes? Fuckin' burnin'. Burn it all. In subordination. I'll burn you. But did Suzuki ever see a panda or the abominable? Abominable. Snowman.

Abominable. Abominable. After finding a notice, Suzuki quickly found a wild panda and claimed to have spotted a Yeti from a distance by July 1975, hiking in the Himalayas. He married in 1976, but did not give up on his quest. Suzuki died in November 1986 in an avalanche while searching for the Yeti. His remains were discovered a year later and returned to his family. Wow.

Wow. He died looking for the Yeti. That is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. What a fucking imbosile. Yeah. To believe in something. To believe in something. To believe in something. To believe in something. To believe in something. To believe in something, to believe in something. To have a trick to say in the soil. Jess, in the soil.

I would never say something so offensive. Well, you're a fucking just as bad. The only thing to add is that a no-da who'd been out for nearly 30 years, he was the second last Japanese soul or person for the Japanese army to surrender. Taro Nakamura, who was a Taiwanese man who fought for the Japanese army, was discovered hiding out in Indonesia a few months later. Oh he missed out by a couple of months. He was the last man to surrender but at the time he spoke neither Japanese or Chinese, spoke the local Taiwanese language and decided to retire back to Taiwan.

So he didn't get the big fanfare that a no-da did. Wow. And his story is quite interesting. So that's why he is probably the most famous of the Japanese holdouts. Yeah, Japanese holdouts. What do you've listed all your band names on it? And I'll page on and use that last week, Dave.

Maybe that'll be a good one. Japanese, the Japanese holdouts. Dave, wanna hear the Japanese holdouts? Yeah, I like it. I like it, I mean, I also came up with it, so it makes sense, but that's a really good idea. Yeah, thank you. Now, before we sign off on this week's episode,

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Have you heard of William the Conqueror? Yeah. What else to tell you? I found a man that was better than both of them put together. Get it. I have this segment isn't about talking about me. You should talk about one of the patrons Don't link it me Matt. I'd like to thank not you not Alexander the great not William the Congress

But Alexander Williams Thank you Alexander williams. I see what you were doing there You give me a thumbs down Alexander Williams is a great guy. He supports us a lot and I'd like to think. The one day, he will rule the known world, just like Alexander the Great did. Yeah, thanks Alexander. Well, it's too late for him to rule my known heart

because he already does it. What? He rules my heart. Cool, man. Oh, you shut the fuck up, you get out. That's it. No, good on. Thanks thanks for you know being here and laughing sometimes which is the thing that you do with value. Just thanks so on that. I'd like to thank someone Dave would you mind if I just a moment? If you could just do

it quickly. This guy is a guy that he gets on also bit He's one of the buffers Listen as we have interesting. Yeah, super buff. He's buff. Yeah, he's real buff. That's my kind of guy Yeah, you love him buff. I love people that remind me of myself. Yeah, it's like looking into a mirror when you look at his profile picture You're like am I am I replying to myself in this suite? I have caught myself saying that and Am I replying to myself in this tweet? I have caught myself saying that. And I mean, for that alone, Adam Stoltz, I would love to thank you. Well, Adam Stoltz, on your self-do.

For so much more, thanks so much for the support, and just, you know, having the ability to pull a granny out of a tree if she got stuck up there or whatever. You could change the light bulb. Oh man, if he doesn't crush it with his bare hand. Yeah, no Please gentle. He's one of the things about him I I would also like to thank someone and it's it's such good timing as well because We got a message last week from one of our listeners

The I'll just because I'm I'm notoriously bad at these you guys always come up with some sort of fun pun name Or some sort of joke about it. I'm really bad at it wouldn't call it either a fun a pun or no It's probably a pun, but it's not fun nor a joke No, but I the only thing that I like let's give like okay my joke for today was antiques road choice. I'm not great at this But I'm ready this whole comedy podcast not great at this. But I'm afraid of this whole comedy podcast thing. But we're trying. I've been given permission by Sam Jones, who I would like to thank, who messaged us this

weekend, said, I need to apologize in advance. I'm on Patreon and I can't help but notice my name does not lend itself to puns. So feel free to invent a suitable middle name if that helps. Oh, I guess. Which I said, and I replied, and I said, that is incredibly kind because I am bad at this. Thank you for that. And now I guess you've had a bit of time to think about it, but I haven't thought of anything

because I don't have to, because Sam loves the podcast as it is. And he recognized my floor, the only one I have, my pelvic floor. He recognized it. He recognized it floor, the only one I have, my pelvic floor. He recognized it from a picture. It's like that's a Perkins pelvic floor. And he said, you know what Jess, I love you anyway,

how you are, you're bad at these thanks, but just make up a middle name. So he's middle name's Reginald. Oh, that's great middle name. That's good. And thank you, Sam, because you are genuinely great. And you tweet to us a lot. And we really appreciate your support. And you're great. My part would probably have been, Sam of Thrones or Sam of Jones.

Yeah, that's great. Same of Jones. Fuck, that's so good. Is it? Yeah, well, it's better than anybody else. It's like, it's like two ways. I would have just so good. Is it? Yeah, well, it's better than anything else I've ever thought of. It's like, I'll just send two ways. I would have just sent it. I would have been some sort of keeping up with. I would have tried to keep. Sure. He's, I would have said something like, he's just so fast. Yeah. One thing I could never do is keep up with this guy. Sure. I'm Jonesing for his support. Okay, see, this is why you guys were all great at that, but Sam Jones recognized that I'm not and he says it's fine that I'm not and I wish you guys would be his understanding As I was done

I do the middle name Reginald is a great one. Thanks. Yeah, thanks. That is better than anything I've ever said in my life, so just fucking calm down for a minute would you and just appreciate the brilliance of your head And you face in your mouth that says the words Tell me it doesn't Your face says that your face doesn't but your face is wrong because you face Please stop all right. I'm gonna cut you both out there and say we're gonna wrap it up there guys Thank you so much for listening. This has been a weirder episode. Listen. Tell me I'm right. It's light Tell me I'm wrong a day. It's wait me. I'm wrong. It's late, it's late. Tell me I'm wrong, a day, tweet me I'm wrong, you can't.

You can't. I bet you won't. That's just, you're begging for tweets. Can you just let Dave wrap it up? I'm just gonna say all the usual stuff guys, like getting contact with us through, and you can suggest topics, you don't have to be on Patreon to suggest topics,

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With a red table because I wonder if they picture the order we sit in Send your artist impressions to pierce I genuinely love whenever we get fan I'm not gonna ask for that to be weird and I'm gonna ask if you gonna ask, if you actually do want to say, would you send us a letter because I'm willing to set up a pair of boxes. I've been finding one of my whole life, I want to go to that little set of boxes with a key and open it at 3 a.m. But I find it stressful managing Instagram, Twitter and Facebook. Now we're adding a whole new element. Yeah, but you only have to reply once a month. You don't have to go all the

time. Because, and also there would be unlikely to be more than one letter a month as you know you go and you don't have to go all the time because and also there would be Unlike it'd be more than one letter a month later and also but before that leading up to that the week before that The festival starts it is the planet broadcasting Podcasting network launch It's March 25 Saturday afternoon lots of stuff going on there's people from our podcast will be there filthy casuals Afternoon lots of stuff going on there's people from our podcast will be there filthy casuals Dragon friends anti-donna we got James mr. Sunday movies. We got Nick Mason mace from the weekly and and fans of the weekly planet will know that That'll be the first time anyone will have seen his face publicly. I'm excited to see his face. I don't I've never seen man has But I've seen his face. He's a he's a very good looking man Hmm, his hair wasn't as long and blonde as I always pictured it there. It's interesting. It's annoying to have a good looking person Hi there face. It's like I'm throwing mine out there all the fucking time

Day you are gorgeous. Thank you begging for compliments and they always pay No, no Dave. I think you're on the right track early You've hideous pieces yet Matt always to truth is the end of the show. Alright, you can email us at dogoonpottergmail.com, get the ideas, any feedback you got. Tell us if you would write the letter. But until next week, we will say thank you and we will say goodbye. Bye!

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