Two In The Think Tank - 74 - The Simpsons

Episode Date: March 22, 2017

"I didn't do it"... No he did. Dave finally relented and reported on the greatest TV show of all time. Hear how The Simpsons started from humble beginnings before quickly becoming a huge success, a sh...ow that would go on to be the longest running sitcom of all time. It's like David and Goliath, only this time David won! We talk about the key players, rifts behind the scenes and end with a lot of fun facts. Tute on Dave, Tute on!Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:56 the GI Bill. Now is the time. Mycomputercareer.edu See you! A good morning afternoon or night, wherever you are listening to this, this is Dugoan, and my name is Dave Warnicki, and I'm here with the two fancy feasts themselves. This matschewet and Jess Perkins. What the hell just happened? His eyes were so wide. But that was, it was looking, I was like, it was looking through time and space.
Starting point is 00:01:32 And what he brought back with him was calling us dog food. And good morning, good afternoon. What, what happened there, Dave? I just felt like I would channel. It was like Stephen Fry. An old timey sort of broadcaster slash Matt before the show told me that I was the one that talks the fastest on the show. So I thought I'd live up to that with the intro. Probably couldn't even hear it was more like what fastened the speed of sound that was. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:57 That was fast. To answer your question I was assuming the question was hello guys how are you? Very well thank you David. Did not ask how you were didn't ask a question I think let's go to the tape It's not a date and I was speaking so fast. We have no idea what I said. Would you like to ask us? Because how we are would I like to yes, I would Are you going to no how are you? Oh, how are you both? We we're very good
Starting point is 00:02:24 I'm we're very good. So about very good. I'm very good. So about that. Jess, I'm very good. Jess, I would have no idea how she is. I mean, she's been telling us how good she is, but I wouldn't want to speak for her because that is improper. I am also. Pretty good. Pretty good. I had a V on the way here, so like, I'm feeling pretty great. Hey, what are we doing this week? I'm so excited. I'm excited. so excited about a Dave Warnicky episode. They are our favorites. I'm nervous. If you've downloaded this, you've seen probably
Starting point is 00:02:52 what the topic's gonna be, and I'm nervous. Well, that's not fair that they know before we do. Yeah, Dave. That's how it works every week. I know, but at 74 weeks, I'm realizing the injustice. And I don't think you need to rub it in like that. Yeah, just because, you know, I don't know. How many weeks are you pregnant for?
Starting point is 00:03:07 May. I'm actually quite a shot. I'd turn around pretty quickly. I am. So what's about nine months? We could have had two babies by now. Just saying. I don't think that's right.
Starting point is 00:03:20 You'd have to do it like this. Yeah, back to back. The second one would have to be. I'm talking about two separate women Well, yes, I often do I am currently crashing I mean we could you could just have twins and just do it once. Oh That's what I meant and there'll be not there'll be identical but there'll be different sexes
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah, which is possible as our listeners. Have told me. Really hammered at home. Well, you were the one who would say, anyway, what's the question? Yeah, come on, yeah, let's get onto the topic. I'm just, I'm trading board, I'm putting it off here. The question, because this is a show you haven't heard of before, because you're
Starting point is 00:03:56 interested in the topic, where we take a topic, suggested by the listeners, 99% of the time. And one of us does a report on that topic. Other two, don't know what I'm gonna talk about So to get us on topic, I've got a question and that question is what topic do I have to do this week to stop listeners killing me What is the greatest television show? Matt he's doing it. Matt. I never thought this day would actually come. That's right. We're doing diagnosis murder
Starting point is 00:04:28 That's good to use son of a bitch Which I did actually talk about early on in the series. Yeah, why what are you saying? It's not diagnosis matter It is the substance One of my favorite things. I really never thought this day would come. I'm such a fan of it. I just feel like I can't do it justice. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:04:53 But I'll try. You probably can't. You were making me a lie every week. I was telling people Dave's gonna do it. He's told me he's gonna do it real soon. And you've been saying that for what? A year? Easily. Probably a year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:05 That's how much research I've been doing. Oh, Dave. Actually, I saw it going on the golden hat and someone put it in. They said, the Simpsons, or if not the Simpsons, some other topic. And I'm like, Dave, that motherfucker is going to choose the other topic. Yeah. I'll scoot around. So the topic, I will say, has been requested by dozens of people at this point.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yes. But the credit for getting me off my ass. Getting my ass. Getting my ass. The Us award goes to, oh, the Tony Tush. Mr. Justin McCain, who put it in the golden hat and made me step up and make dozens of people. Thank you so much, Justin. We really took one for the team at away, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:05:40 No, because he threw away his, if you don't know. If you're caught throwing away, finally getting you to do what you should have done years ago. Not throwing away at all. Well, I think we should explain the golden hat is we have a, a picture on pledge. If you pledge a certain amount, there are 10 people currently that submit ideas and we have to do their topics. So I have to do the Simpsons.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And this one is for you, Justin McCain and for Simpsons fans everywhere. Justin, Justin, you've done it. And Dave, you were saying, like, you know, it's a bit scary because it's such a big topic and you can go to a justice. I find, with all of my reports, especially the big ones all about things that I care about, I know I won't be able to do them justice. And I think once you accept that within yourself, you're going to be a lot a lot happier you know I've just got to give up now now not give up just don't like don't hold yourself to such high standards you know just just know that you'll
Starting point is 00:06:32 probably do any adequate job just crash your car just crash your car that's what I'm saying we're gonna find out if I feel like it after this episode oh my god this is gonna be so much fun I can't wait the Simpsons just let's just talk about a big fan map yes oh yeah look I think I'm probably like a lot of Simpsons fans. A big fan of the first, like, eight-ish seasons. And I, there's probably, there'd be so many episodes that I haven't seen from more recent years. Yeah, very. Whenever I catch one, I'm like, I can almost see what the joke was. Like, they're sort of like, they've gone from being really funny to mildly humorous scenarios. I feel like it just, maybe,
Starting point is 00:07:10 I don't know if it's me getting older or the show going in a different direction or something, but it feels like it's an older is good to me anymore. Who knew you? What are you reckon about that? That Matt could get any older. I'm doing it every day. Maybe getting older.
Starting point is 00:07:24 So when the first, every minute, when the first episode, once again, that's how time worked. that Matt could get any older. I'm doing it every day just. Maybe getting older. So when the first- Every minute. When the first episode, once again, that's how time worked. Who would have thought that Matt would still be around to see season 28 of the Simpsons? I did not think he'd make it. He's in 28.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Well, they're not too. But we'll get that. That's a long way. That's a long way. So there's been 20s. Or maybe it was more than that. Maybe it was like 12. I think the first 10 probably nine are excellent
Starting point is 00:07:47 10 to 12 are pretty damn great and from then So it's going down. Oh, all right. So you're great. Yeah, I thought that was a pretty Yeah, commonly held idea. So I'm curious to hear when it started I feel like it was maybe even in the 80s, but I reckon you'll probably mention you'll probably mention that and you know What are you gonna be good to you? I think I'm just gonna cut to season 18 That's right. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, and Jess you are what I'll be good. Yeah, I think I'm just gonna cut to season 18 That's right. Yeah, absolutely Hey, and Jess you are a big fan of the sims. Yeah, absolutely. I remember I don't think I was allowed to watch it as a young kid Neither was I when it first was out. Yeah, when I was
Starting point is 00:08:15 No, I'm when I was it was it's older than Jess and I are or say that right now. So Matt is right about the 80s thing But I do remember well, yeah, it and where 26 years old that does make sense. Math. Time again. Look, God has looked at it. I could have squeezed many seasons in. I'm getting so much better at math you guys. You really are. This podcast has done one of this for your mathematical skills. Yeah, big time. Yeah, I also was not allowed to watch it. And then suddenly it became the best thing in my life. Yeah, totally. And then it was really good because we had not to break. I'm Afloneast. We had Fox the best thing in my life. Yeah, totally. And then it was really good because we had, not to brag, at Floren East, we had Fox tell.
Starting point is 00:08:48 As did my family. Yeah. That's how I was doing. Because what would happen is every Saturday and Sunday, morning between 9 and 12, they'll just place six episodes back to back. It was the absolute frickin' best. That's what I did every Saturday and Sunday. Fox eight always had Simpsons on at some point.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Once I gave up tennis, which was pretty early into discovering that Simpson's was on from 9 to 12. Yeah, I would get up and just watch the Simpson. It was so great. So Fox, it was pay pay per view here. Cable. Cable. That's cable. Because in Australia, we have what five or six free-to-air channels that now have a few more now. I've gone digital. Yeah. But five, five main channels. And then if you were from the Afloan East like Jess and I you could get what a dream. Yeah Pete that's pretty great. Do we feel we got that a little bit later in my life, but still I had it and Yep, Saturday morning Simpson's time. I had fuck so far about 60s old. Yeah, so good
Starting point is 00:09:36 Do you go out would you have a favorite episode? I know what mine. I think I know what mine would be I can tell you my least favorite Simpsons yep really yeah I know what mine, I think I know what mine would be. I can tell you my least favorite. Simmsons. Yep. Really? Yeah, absolutely, because it still fills me with pain, but I don't know if I can off the top of my head
Starting point is 00:09:51 think of a favorite episode. What's, oh, I will start with the least favorite then. You know when Homer goes into the other dimension? Yeah, that's one of the Halloween episodes. And then he ends up in the real world, I think. He has erotic cakes. I hate that so much. I love, really?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Because he's so scared. Yeah. And he's like, he's whimpering. Yeah, he's really, because he's like, and I'm like, how would he get back? And I just remember watching it. And just feeling so upset. And because I think I was probably like that feeling
Starting point is 00:10:21 of being lost. I think I sort of remembered that feeling for me a kid. And I still, like it makes me kind of sad and upset. I think you're right now. I'm talking about it, yeah. You mean the one that's a bit like that? Cron, is anyone seeing Cron? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:31 No, no, no, no, no, yes. I mean, no. Because that's what he says. Yeah. But do you have a favorite? I think my favorite is, I, I, Dave will tell me what the name of the episode was, but it's where they, it's, I think it maybe
Starting point is 00:10:44 is called the lemon tree or something like that, it's about. Oh, that is such a good episode. Oh. I'm going to go into Shelbyville. That's one of my top 10. That, I think that's my number one. Why do you like that episode? I don't know, it's really, it's just a really fun.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Oh, that's, it's called lemon of Troy. Lemon of Troy. Sort of, oh, very good. Hell, lemon. No, we got it. Troy. Yeah, no, we understood the reference. Yep. And Troy, instead of boy, which bar is and bar goes over, just some great line, you
Starting point is 00:11:10 know, we're too done, son and all that stuff. It's just, it's just chock full of very funny lines. He throws the meat to stop the dog, but it makes the dog. Anyway, this is tedious. What's your favorite episode then? We should do the report. Okay, so I will say that I am a big fan and for my 25th birthday I had the Simpsons Theme Party that we've talked about where I hide out a cinema with 30 seats, mini cinema, and invited my friends around to watch my 4th episode of The Simpsons. Initially it was going to be 8th but then I decided that it would be pretty tedious to make everyone shut up for that many hours. Yeah. So we did four and we did a cape fear. It's good one. Just the parody of the film cape fear this but the E on the end where they go to
Starting point is 00:11:53 with this protection. Oh yes. Such a bump coming up on the house. Great one. The rakes, that classic. Yeah, that's so good. You just help me remember my other favorite which you played that night. the one with Hank Scorpio. Oh my god, I love Hank Scorpio. You know, you move twice? Yes, I love that. The Beer Baron episode? That's another one.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I'm trying to be a Baron. Where are these delivering Beer? Hear of us as the 18th Amendment, what is called? It's when he starts bowling balls. So, yeah, I think Outlaw Licker and then Rex Banner comes along. Yep, yeah, yeah, gotcha. And number one, one all-time great episode is the Monorail episode. Monorail.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Classic. Yeah, good one. Written by Conan O'Brien. Oh, there you go. Good episodes. Good list, there, Dave. Not those four, but there's so many more. I would have had it.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Oh, this is so good. Yeah, lemon of Troy, definitely. I always liked the one where it was, like, in the future, and Lisa was, oh, no wait, there was a couple of different ones in the future, weren't they? Yeah, they're fun. Like, the flashfords, where, like, Lisa's... Is the president or marrying? Yeah, marrying the guys, like...
Starting point is 00:13:02 Not a such a fan, because Spine, it becomes such a loser, and I feel bad for bad for him and I also feel terrible for Mill House who becomes such a loser when he's old. Well, yeah, but what did you think was going to happen to Mill House? I love the one. Is it actually the English guy who plays that English guy? You know the guy from all those movies? The Foppish guy? Hugh Grant? No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. Someone's saying it sound like. But then when he goes to Lisa's sort of bagging his her family, Homer and that, she goes, you're not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it. No, no, it's not I actually believe that was huge grant. I think I had a joke about like Maggie won't shut up She's always on the phone, but she's still you still know he'll speak. Yeah, very good. That was pretty funny Anyway, this is Tadius. It is a Mandy Patinkin was
Starting point is 00:13:57 starring what who is a niga mom? I know I know who man did David. I know who Mandy Patinkin is there you go Okay, let's get to Simpson's let Let's get down brother. What better place to start when the series creator Matt graining Matt graining. Oh, I say groaning You would I would or not what an idiot Sorry, I'm about to think something wrong. Thank you. You also say schmals instead of schmals True, Matt graining was born on February 15th, 1954. A good year. God, one of the best.
Starting point is 00:14:30 In Portland, Oregon. Oh, he was the middle of... Ah, a good town. I think we have listeners in Portland. I think people have tweeted to us from Portland. Yeah. Hello, Portland. Matt was the middle of five children.
Starting point is 00:14:42 He's German American father, Homer Philip Braining, was a filmmaker, advertiser, writer and cartoonist. He's Norwegian American mother, Margaret, oh, March, was once a teacher. His two younger sisters were Lisa, oh my God. And Maggie. No. What? Do you notice the names there? Father Homer. Mother Marge. But also Maggie. But you know, I know I definitely get it. But Maggie is usually a short version of Margaret. So was she just named after her mum as well? Yes, also my mum. Oh, very cute. And Bart, why? Yeah, it's interesting you didn't go Matt. He went Bart instead, which is an anagram. An anagram of Branch, that is right.
Starting point is 00:15:28 That is what? Bart in this place, yeah, that's right. That's cool. I love it. That is so cool, I actually never knew that. Oh, how lovely. From a young age, Matt was constantly drawing and being told off of being distracted in class. He had to write 500 times, I must remember, to be quiet in class. He had to write 500 times, I must remember, to be quiet in class. He described
Starting point is 00:15:46 school as like a prison. And when he read about a prisoner of war camp, he related school to that because the teachers are like guards, always trying to tell you what to do. He was okay at school though. He was elected student body president. His party was called teens for decency, which is a name that mocked a local Christian group the slogan was if you're against decency then what do you for? I can't argue with it okay uh graining uh fan himself rejected by girls when he told them he wanted to be a professional cartoonist they should have got with him then and then I can tell you that right now. Yeah, where else is got live in oh Yeah, you know what I hitched themselves to that car So what like what type of guys were they going for then do you know what I mean probably accountants
Starting point is 00:16:34 Because I would be much more attractive to somebody who has goals and drive an ambition, you know What have they got an ambition to become a CEO of price one house crew because a lot of just account Then I stabbed them in the throat. I don't know. I've got them bleed out. And then just... And then just... I've got them bleed out of a different wound. And then just wait for my middle of honor because I would be awarded one for saving the
Starting point is 00:16:57 world from such a horrible human being. Wow. Could have just said yes to the cut-ins. When he left school, he applied for two colleges. Wow. Could have just said yes to the cartoonists. When he left school he applied to two colleges. Harvard and Evergreen College. Oh my god. Harvard said no.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Interesting. He went to Evergreen. Do you know Evergreen? Evergreen Terrace. Yeah. Very good. It was a progressive hippie school. So he went to either Harvard or the hippie school.
Starting point is 00:17:22 All the hippie school. Sort of rolled the dice. Yeah. all right. He worked on the college newspaper mocking the school and often got in to trouble for hurting people's feelings with his satire and he wasn't very good at that because he's a very everyone that I've read talk about him So he's a very very nice person But obviously he likes to make fun of stuff and often he would make them upset and then feel terrible about So he doesn't have that that remorse button do you Matt? No, no, I love it. You just out there to hurt. Yeah, fuck
Starting point is 00:17:53 Someone off. Well, fuck him right there. Dave. I feel good. Dave go get him Dave. You got a Very nice hair. Fuck He's not good at this. I feel terrible yesterday. I was driving back to the beach That was me sorry, okay, I yesterday I was driving back from the beach and I stopped to get petrol and All gas and I stopped at the petrol station all gas station to fill up this is tedious and I was pumping the pump It wasn't working. I was like maybe this is one of those ones. We got a pain side So when I started my is number 10 that working into the lady goes. Oh, I know I was like, maybe this is one of those ones we got to pay inside. So I went inside and I'm like, is number 10 working? And she the lady goes, oh, no, I just turned it off at night
Starting point is 00:18:28 because we can't really see it. Okay. And I said, oh, is there a sign? She's like, no, we didn't have a sign. And I said, do you think there should be a sign there to tell people? She goes, yeah, maybe. And I went back to the car and I moved and I filled up and the whole time I'm thinking, God, that was rude day.
Starting point is 00:18:42 If you were a terrible person. And I go back inside and I'm like, look, I'm really sorry. I was rude. She's like, no, you were really nice. And I'm thinking, God, that was rude day, if you were a terrible person. And I go back and start and I'm like, look, I'm really sorry if I was rude. She's like, no, you were really nice. And I'm like, no, I think I was very rude. I'm so sorry. I shouldn't have so I can do like that. And then you went out, I saw it again,
Starting point is 00:18:53 and I was, I should have just accepted that it wasn't rude the first time. I was so rude not to take it away from it. I just had to sit in the car, or? Yeah, well, were you lying in the car, or? No, no, I wasn't. OK, it was not answering questions from it. Be out of people in the car or? No, no, I wasn't. Okay, cause it's not answering questions from the other people. Just let me feel bad!
Starting point is 00:19:09 And then I had to stew about that all night cause I snapped. I was like, I'm like Ned Flanders. I said some horrible things tonight. In 1977, at the age of 23, Graning moved to Los Angeles to become a writer. L.A. Big city. Big smoke. L.A. Los Angeles. Oh, hmm.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Oh, that's not as cute as you shorten it. So you wanted to be L.A. L-A. L-A. So that's Los Angeles is actually sometimes, or you're just doing that. I just hope people understand what I'm talking about. Commonly locally referred to as LA. Yeah, let's say you prove your local, welcome to LA.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Oh, if you live here, please. Oh, you were born, you're the man. You should start calling Melbourne M. No, I don't like that at all. M-A, Melbourne Ang't like that at all. M.A. Melbourne Angleys So you know what with the locals call it He moved to LA he wanted to be writer, but he had a bunch of part-time jobs He was a chauffeur to an elderly director
Starting point is 00:20:20 Never-scoffs, it was dream job Mr. Burns every name so far He was a slogan writer for horror movies horror movie reference to the sky looks there He was a landscaper at a sewage plant. That's one of the lowest ones. Why would you? Yeah, why would you care about the landscaping it a screw make stuff grow real good? Real good. Great point. Now, he was a waiter?
Starting point is 00:20:47 Yeah, that's worse than a lad's scape it out of the poo farm. He was a waiter at the poo farm. Don't even finish delivering all the poo. Stuff grew really good there. He grew a lot of crops. Yeah, that. Then he harvested them and sold them.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Interesting. As food. He was a record store worker at a place called Likarish Pizza. Okay, that's weird. Which I would I'd read that hard on think, what do you sell? What do you sell? Is he working all these jobs at the same time? I think it's more like he's just moving on because it's bored. Because it feels like at this stage it's one day a week for each of them. So on Mondays I show for the director.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Yeah. She stays. I cut the grass at the poo farm. When stays are harvest at the poo farm. I was working at the record store. He started a zine or a little comic strip called Life in Hell. Sold at the record store for $2. He tried to get newspapers to carry it, but hell at the time was considered
Starting point is 00:21:46 very blasphemous in the US of A. And most, it was all of A. So what's that? That short for? It's short for L of A. What's that? Oh, dangly. But yeah, it was on par with words like fucking stuff hell fucking stuff Look I won't I won't publish anything that says hell fucking stuff They shall fucking stuff did not get off the ground until the 90s fucking stuff Bad words what you say so most people wouldn't even publish it
Starting point is 00:22:23 But then would they publish the C word? But then he gained employment. See, oh that's fine. Just not fucking stuff, please. Yeah. Keep up. Sorry. Keep up with the 8th, early 80s.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I cannot. That was not a life. I'd say many is early 8th. He gained employment. So no one would publish it until he gained employment at the Los Angeles, Los Angeles pun reader, which is a newly formed alternative newspaper, his job was lowly stuff like delivering papers, types editing, answering phone, sort of everyday tasks.
Starting point is 00:22:52 But then he showed his cartoons to the editor, James Val, who was impressed and eventually gave him a spot in the paper. Life in Hell made its official debut, was a comic strip in the Reader 25th 1980 and it became a popular almost immediately. What's the A sample there? Angleys, it's always Angleys Project, right? If you're confusing, it was anything else.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Yeah, if it was A, it's Angleys. Okay, sorry. Come on, right, Jesus. So you spell my name D a angeles the yeah my middle name is son of the day it is angeles Jessica angeles Perkins it's not far off actually anyway do go on it's Ann It's Anne. Dan. No one who hasn't heard this before. Anne. Gilles. In November 1984, so a few years later, Gronings, then girlfriend, Debra, who was a coworker at the reader,
Starting point is 00:23:54 offered to publish Love Is Hell, a series of relationship-themed life-in-held strips in book form. Released a month later, the book was an underground success and it sold 22,000 copies. Oh, wow. It's not bad, yeah. It's more than I expected, cool.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Many people say his girlfriend, Deborah, who would eventually be his first wife, Deborah Graning, was the brains behind his early success. She was the one who sold his comic book to newspapers across the USA. She enlisted the help of George Decapario. Excuse me? Leonardo's father genuinely He was at the time of cartoonist and he became Matt and Deborah's distributor for the comic. That's pretty cool Everyone was a cartoonist back there. It's cool. Isn't it? I don't know any cartoons
Starting point is 00:24:35 I've never met one you guys know a cartoon. Do you know a cartoonist? They all died out Peter Thomas. Oh, okay. We do know Peter. Yeah Actually, I made it I made a I made a card turn instead of waiting We're good. I reckon we got some great cartoonist listen. Oh, that's very true actually get some of the best We've had some pretty amazing artwork come true. I say is proof it Dave you've just encouraged me to draw more weird the shit of us I love it. He's talking about the cartoonist at the wedding. Was it like a cacature artist? No, I don't know He was like a well it was one of one of the many skills this gentleman had.
Starting point is 00:25:06 He was like an illustrator cartoonist, does a whole bunch of visual arts or stuff. Lovely guy. He sounds great. He was lovely, you know. Is he available? No. But that's okay, Matt.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Did you get a card? No. Shit. Shit! That's okay, mate. Did you get a card? No shit Shit I got a card Jess up to the gig last Saturday from a real estate agent who was Fuck so he saw what a comedian and thought God see women can be real estate agents. That was David. Wow Wow Women can be real estate agents. That was David. Wow. Wow. Dave, Dave, Dave Krassichkarma. 50, 50, I'll take that any day of the week. No, I'll crash the karma. You're done. Because I called her.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I hope you're listening on a windy road, mate. Hello, me. Stop sign. Whatever that. I like to imagine that future Dave. He's past Dave's say, Stop sign, whatever that. I like to imagine that future Dave, he's past Dave say, hello me and he goes like, oh, hello. I won't be listening back to this one. In 1986, after the book, which I talked about before, was named Coffee Table Book of the Month in Playboy. Hello.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Which apparently the time was a big deal. Yeah, because a lot of Playboy listeners subscribed purely to... For the coffee table. Purely to get the tips on what book's story. No, not even Book of the Month. Coffee Table Book. A specific kind of book.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Oh, they've also got novel. They've got bird watching Book of the Month. Pages and pages are different kinds of books. Lots of reviews. And right at the back, like in the corner, they've got Playmate of the Month. But no one cares about reviews. And right at the back, they're like in the corner, they've got Playmate of the Month, but no one cares about that.
Starting point is 00:26:47 And now I get it for the articles. Look, look, look, were not making as much money. Who buys magazines at all? True, definitely true, but also like nudy ones. Yeah, do you want to be like, unless you get a kick out of a guy behind a counter knowing that you're a dirty perv. Or that there's no reason to do that. Or that somebody will possibly and probably find it in your room
Starting point is 00:27:25 at some point too. You notice how swollen I've been. No we're going to have to introduce Dave to porn later. Women can do porn too Jess. Watch your dirty mouth out. I'm just feeling bad because I caught a real sedation, a man. At least you didn't kill Jess when I caught her before we started recording. Which we still haven't said. We will never reveal that. I'll never reveal that. I'll snag it in. So the book was named a coffee table book at the month in Playboy. And it's as a result of this, the comic started being published in the village voice, a newspaper that Granny had stated he wanted to get into from the start.
Starting point is 00:28:08 So as well as, and eventually was published in 200 newspapers and had millions of readers. Wow. So it's doing quite well. It's a featured anthropomorphic rabbits sort of hastily drawn. I reckon I heard about this, not to jump ahead, but I feel like that had a longish life, I reckon. Yes, well, I'll tell you that this comic strip was published from 1977 all the way up until 2012. Oh, shit! Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:36 ...and versions and additions going of it. Are you kidding? And was he, did he have creative control of it? Yeah, I was still his thing. I think because after the Simpson made him a rich, rich man man He could do this just for fun. Right. That's cool And any creative control of this, but maybe he didn't know the Simpsons David The sea level little sezel. Can you hear that?
Starting point is 00:29:00 The sizzle run up David boys tongue sizzley Boy's tongue. Sizzling. Old hot tongue over there. Hot tongue. Gold puzzles. Hot tongue. What a package. It's the two things people look for. How many tonsils? Why is he tongue so hard?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Get out of me, mouth. Mouth really likes Dave but his tongue is so hot. He's hurting my eyes to look at. Put away your tongue. Watching your baby is like staring into a fire. I just don't know what to call him about. He doesn't have to cook free cookies for you. He just puts raw meat on his tongue.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah but he can't eat. See is it both sides? For 15 minutes That's a pretty long and painful process, but that's eating with Dave. It gets good results eating with Dave the new program coming to you soon Matt and Deborah married in 1987. I've had two sons home and Abe I get I'm assuming everyone knows this. I was obviously home as dad in the sun. Abraham.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah, everyone will know that, right? Yeah, but just in case. I know, maybe people have seen this and thought the Simpson's. I mean, to get into that. Maybe this podcast will catch me up. All those jokes. Oh, God. Of which we butchered a couple at the staff. I will leave Madeline for a second. We jumped to a guy called James L Brooks. He
Starting point is 00:30:30 was already a TV and movie legend at this stage. There's a ledge. But a ledge, especially in the biz. And the L stands for Lafayette. Lafayette. Sure was going to be lost Angleys I don't know I don't know this system at all. I cannot figure it out. I always Angleys Elk can be anything. It's Lauren. So look at that for you of Arabia. Who was life I had again? That was I'm a witch. Oh fuck. I was on the last way here A big week man. That's been a big Boxes led into the industry got a real aura around him. Oh that you can see That was our only way there. A big lake, man. That's been a big lake. So James L. Brookes, he's led into the industry, got a real aura around him. Ooh, that you can see.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Positively glowing. People will do whatever he wants because he is Maryland. Remember when I had that aura for a bit? And then I got that cream. Yeah, the aura cream. And I went around. Kind of. Wasn't my color though, it was purple.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I don't know, look good in purple. Wow. You know, who does? Nine years someone who looks good in purple, apart from, obviously, Jeff the Wiggle. My year nine science teacher, only war purple. Everything was purple. That's weird. It's so weird, but it would be like purple pants, purple t-shirt, purple jacket. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Purple hair type. Woman. Fucking hell, Dave. Women can be purple too. Women can be teachers. I was imagining, wake up Jeff the whole time just in a full purple garb. That is a real shorthand for letting people know you're eccentric without actually having to say it. And or getting anything weird like a pet turtle that you walk on a lead or something like that. Just go look, I'm headed to purple, okay. Centric. I'm excited. I can be eccentric just by going down a Kmart, you know. I don't even have to bring my turtle.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Which I've got. Which I've got obviously. I'm not an idiot. Of course I've got a turtle. Yeah. Anyway, Dave, do you go on? What about Oprah? The color purple. Ah, the movie that she made. Took me a second. I thought you were trying to say that Oprah meant purple.
Starting point is 00:32:33 That entire time, he was completely zoned out thinking of that joke. Oh, would you come to the joke? Well, he would. It could you tell why he's face how proud he was of it? He was face now. He's like, it doesn't know. What went wrong? It's a matter of understand. I said the best together. I forget the worst thing I can't see in my face. Oh man, I can't wait for the live.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I was looking to love your face. Oh, my face. I really hope you get like stage fright and just a freeze in front them and you sit there very seriously that would be fun for me. Oh I will be wearing a mask. Of Oprah. Color purple. That's all right then. The greatest role. You know women can be Oprah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I don't think so. They can have a state agency. They can have science. They can have them. But they they can have science data. They can have them. But they can't have. I would pro. Interesting. She's always been in my heart. My purple, purple heart.
Starting point is 00:33:32 What about prints? He could wear purple. I was guzzin' you of prints. That's true. But you're gonna be my teacher. I call him accent. She was prints. Don't imagine my United Science teacher was prints.
Starting point is 00:33:41 God, I learned a lot of science. They learn a lot about what happens when dogs cry. Right out the hypothesis, what do you think is going to happen? The aim? You also found out about cream shabugi bulb. Oh, bulb. Oh, there you go. That's the lyrics. Well, Dave can be cream.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah. You can be shabugi. I'm shabugi. Oh, you're definitely shabugi. I'm cream. That's how we... In color and flavor. Hi, we count me out on when we do a live the Prince experience I was like I come at
Starting point is 00:34:13 Welcome Crab and Dave come And then he does the double point to me because Shibugi and I And then he does the double point to me because Shabu-gi and I just say, I'm Shabu-gi. I only both go, But. And I come out from like something in the stage. Like a riser. Yeah, a riser from the stage. But it shoots it.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Something goes wrong with the mechanic and you just get squashed and you see what you're doing. The music just stops playing. No, just keeps playingashed in a ceiling. It just stops playing. No, just keeps playing in that night. Just starts with the looking, and like a blood-soaked ceiling. Jess is dripping down from the ceiling, like she's been obliterated. Wait, but I was wearing like a cool sequin dress, though, right?
Starting point is 00:34:57 You were, and the thing about the drips coming down, purple rain. And it was all fake, and then another pulled out, but this time it goes wrong. A lot of show that'll be. The cream for Boogie Bar. What do we do? It's like we knew this was going to be a long episode too, so it's doing long bits about Cream Shabugi Bhatt.
Starting point is 00:35:26 So I talk about James Elbrus. Yeah, I'd love to hear about this go. So at this stage, got the aura about it. That's how we got it. Do you have any examples of reviesies? Okay, so we had one, he'd won several. Any movies, especially onesies put together. Several Emmys already for creating the Mary Tyler Moore show, which is a groundbreaking show.
Starting point is 00:35:46 He then created Taxi. It's a show about ground breaking. Oh, that breaking ground. That jackhammer. Yeah, I'm going to make over this ground. First I'm going to jack into it. And then I'm going to get the jackhammer to clean up my mess. Yeah, I'm gonna get the check-hammer to stuff like that. It was like some crazy car.
Starting point is 00:36:28 So I think of, if I'm thinking of the right show, including that guy who died ages ago, the people love. Eddie Kaufman? Yes, him. Thank you. Danny DeVito, it's still alive. Tony Danza. Tony Danza, that's how I get him and Kramer confused.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Who's your boss? And also, hey, I'm Kramer. You know the two. Yeah, no, Kramer confused. Who's your boss and also, hey I'm Kramer, you know the two. Yeah, no that's fair. Who's the boss? I prefer who's your boss. Who's you say who's your boss before? Who's your boss? No I thought you said who's the boss. Okay good. James Elbrook's also produced and directed movies as well. He's a production company which he started under Fox called Gracie films. They did. I'll listen for you. Finding Nemo. No. Mary Poppins. Sorry, Mary Poppins 2 back in the habit.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Like crossover movie that we all love. Oh, classic. He also did driving Miss Daisy Crazy. Was that a spin off? He also did driving Miss Daisy crazy. Was that a spin off? No, Miss Daisy crazy. Is that that one? Yeah, I'm just being silly to go on. He also produced, so Gracie Films, which is named after the comedian Gracie Allen,
Starting point is 00:37:36 just a side-back there. He produced a big Tom Hanks. Yep. Great film. That's one of my favorites as a kid. Great film. Say anything. Great film. That's one of my favorites as a kid great film Say anything great film never heard writing in cars with boys I did I not just say writing in cars with boys like two minutes ago and you did not hear me
Starting point is 00:37:54 Listeners will have heard that I didn't you said driving Miss Daisy crazy. No, I said that but before I said writing Anyway, yes keep going. Jerry. Let's go to the tape Oh, she ever got very good. Where Wes Anderson's first full-length film, Bottle Rocket. With the classic phrase, show me the bottle rocket. Show me the bottle rocket. Oh, is it? James L. Brooks saw the success of Jerry Mcguire.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I decided to use that line in every production. You must. Yeah. Wait, once you find the formula for success, you keep going, you know? He was an extremely hardworking perfectionist, sometimes, to the formula for success, you keep going, you know? Yep. He was an extremely hardworking perfectionist sometimes to the point of being a little crazy. Was he a Virgo?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Was he a virgin? Dade. Gotta get... Get your juices out, mate. Before... What? What? Please do go on.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Well, I was saying, look, okay, so you were saying it was it was a bit full on and then One of you also said it was a virgin so I was like you got to release the tension and I called it juices Which was wrong, but I can't have all the dumb things I've said what that one stopped you guys in your track Yeah, do you ever listen while driving your car? I will the song rabbit I want to rent a really expensive car to do what it was worth. Yeah, please. A Mustang. So James Rooks is the first of the crazy people I'm going to introduce. There's a lot of these hard-working TV executive types all seen
Starting point is 00:39:18 to be geniuses, but also I imagine very difficult to get on with in your personal life. Richard Sakai is James Rooks, what people have described as his henchmen at crazy films like his sort of assistant right hand man sidekick type person. Do anything for James O'Brooks and they modeled Smithers on him as he was devoted to Mr. Burns like Sakai has devoted to. Okay. So just making fun of him. I like henchmen too.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Will you boys please be my henchmen? Well, because if you had to fire someone, James apparently wouldn't want to do it himself. Oh, I would never do that. I would make that do it. He sent the henchmen in to do all the dirty work. Another player in the early Simpson story is Barry Dilla, who was the guy at the helm of Fox at the end of the 80s and Foxes, the production or network that produced the Simpsons. He was a CEO of Paramount when Taxi was winning all those Emmys, so he knew Brooks Well,
Starting point is 00:40:12 but he and Brooks had a tense, love-hate relationship because they're both a pretty tense guy. Much like Matt and Jess, that's right. We're very tense. Love-hate. Barry Diller is now... I love to hate you. Another intense guy who is now worth an estimated $2.6 billion with a bee. Hang on a sec. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Alright, okay. Carry the one. Okay. That is a lot of dollars. Yes. I thought you meant to say that is probably more than all of us put together. Yeah, no probably there mate So Barry Dilla is still a TV executive But he invests in lots of websites. That's where he got a lot of his money is the chairman of the website expedia and Last year paid $100,000 to have his Jack Russell cloned in Korea
Starting point is 00:41:00 What the fuck the main reason I bring him up, because that's crazy. That's awesome. Yeah, but that's... And probably fuck day. That's fuck day. But he was... But he was head of fox at this time. So he's a lot of... He's the guy that's green lighting or red lighting a lot of these projects.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Wow. Rupert Murdoch bought fox in 1985. Our very own... Rupert Murdoch. Rupert! Australian... We don't claim him anyway. He's not a... He not an American citizen as there.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah, we don't want to be. They can have him. Have anything to do with him. But he spent $250 million in the 80s to buy half of the network from financier Mark Rich, Rich having fled the country to avoid a $48 million tax bill needed the cash. So he sold it. Murdoch had partnered with another investor called Martin Davis to buy that half and in September Murdoch bought the other
Starting point is 00:41:52 half from Davis, making him the sole owner. Reportedly Davis wanted to flip a coin with Murdoch to see who would buy the other one out. I guess Murdoch called his bluff. Wow, there we go. And that the Simpsons feature of Rupert Murdoch once or twice? Yeah, quite a few times. I make fun of him. Fox lost $95 million the first year after Murdoch bought it. Gigi's in pretty average TV shows, but Murdoch was committed.
Starting point is 00:42:18 He wanted to make it work. Mainly because he's $500 million at this point. Yeah, you probably want to make that work. Jim Brooks, as people call him, had left TV for film, but he was in Tiesback when he began receiving video tapes from an actor and comedian called Tracy Olman. She was off on the UK and already big over there, but wanted to do something in USA,
Starting point is 00:42:43 so she got her LA agent to keep sending videos to James O'Brooks and he was taken by what he saw in Olman. She's a very talented lady. He decided to take the young actress under his wing and return to television. He was determined to develop a vehicle to showcase her many talents including acting, dancing and singing and he decided to create a sketch comedy show around her. Oh, they're called the Tracy Olman show. Cool. A typical episode will begin with Olman giving a brief introduction. It's pretty much from her dressing room, which relates to the opening credits, which is the show's theme song, which is your thinking right written by George Clinton. Then two or three comedy
Starting point is 00:43:24 sketches would be presented in each episode, most designed to showcase her ability to mimic various accents. Those always go well, those shows. Yeah, very good. Oh, hello, how are you doing? Oh, I'm Tracy Ollman. So I can do it.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Hello, Tracy Ollman. I'm also Tracy Ollman. Oh, well, well, well, we have a classic Tracy Ollman. Oh, well, we just a couple of Tracy Ollman. Oh, we just a couple of Tracy Ollman. Whatever we hear, we got the third Tracy Ollman. Oh, we just a couple of tracings. Whatever we hear, we got the third tracial man. Oh, three tracial man, Zoe. Oh, here we are. Oh, here we are.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Hey, bangers. Bangers and match, you're wrong. These get us, we typically last 25 to 30 minutes each. No, that's not true. I mentioned that for 25 minutes. Oh, that's not true. I'm actually not that true. I'm actually not that true. I'm actually not that true. Oh, that's true. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, the last scene, which to me, like stuff like Saturday Night Live does that all the time, like you don't need something to break it up, you don't. End of the Tracy Olman sketch. Next sketch. Why is she wearing a
Starting point is 00:44:53 mustache now? I don't understand what happened to her character. Why is she not saying Tracy Olman, Tracy Olman, over and over again? Initially the idea they had, they almost said it on this idea, it was talking animals. They threw around the idea they had, they almost said it on this idea, was talking animals. They threw around the idea of a talking bear to break it up. They weren't that into that idea, but it was the best they had at the time. Let's pencil in the bear. That's great. There is two versions as to how Simpsons was chosen over the talking bear. Ken Eston was the producer of the Tracy Orman show, remembered that Richard Sakai, the right-hand man, the henchman, or henchwoman, women can be henchmen too.
Starting point is 00:45:31 That's true. I'm learning. Ken remembered that Richard Sakai, the smithers to Mr. Burns, James Elbrook, had given him a drawing for his birthday and was drawing from Matt Grainings' Life in Hell cartoon. Ken said, how about we get that guy to do drawings in between the scenes? Does anybody like that idea? And everyone was like, yeah, we like that idea. The bear's out. Fuck the bear. Oh, the bear's got a bear. Oh, they fucked the bear. All their face. The bear's can be women too. The bear was finally happy that there was going to be food on the bear table. And then it was fucking out, starving.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Oh boy. That's showbiz, eh? That's bear. Bear-based showbiz. The other story is James Abrook received an original drawing from life and hell From another person he had written directly and produced a very successful film called terms of endearment It was an incredible success with 11 Oscar nominations of Which at one five including best picture best director and best adapted screenplay all for James O'Brooks? Who started terms of endearment?
Starting point is 00:46:42 Shirley McClain on the Academy Award for Best Actress. Jack Nicholson won the Academy Award for Best Supporting with that. I do another one. Yes, I'm with you. So it was a big success and this is part of the reason why James O'Brooks is Conquered TV. He's made his own movie and then he smashed that as well. So everyone's sort of in awe of this guy and that's kind of why he's allowed to do whatever he wants. Cool. He says I want to make this Tracy Almond show. Foxes. Sure. do whatever he wants. Cool. He says, I want to make this Tracy Almond show, Foxes. Sure.
Starting point is 00:47:05 But the production designer of, uh, turns him in de-iment, terms of in-de-iment, designed a poly-plat-worked in the film. She was also nominated for an Academy Award for her work, so as a thank you to James of Books, she wanted to get him a gift. She liked life in hell, and claims that she bought an original print from Matt Grainings wife Debra. It was called Los Angeles Way of Death and the Hollywood joke was that even if you become a success in Hollywood, you still dismiss rules you were when you were a nobody.
Starting point is 00:47:36 James apparently loved it, laughed a lot and put it up in his office and she claims he said to him, you should do a TV special on the characters in Matt's cartoon. So they're the two stories. Either way, he's seen life in hell, James O'Brook. They approached Matt and thought he might shut them down as working in TV. It was a bit too commercial because he's a bit of a hippie, bit of an- and the cartoon is very anti-establishment. So they think they're coming at him with Fox, which is a cable network now owned by Rupert Murdoch. They might be like, nah. But they ask him if they can do one minute cartoons, that could be split up into three segments to break up. So 20 seconds at a time to break up the show.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And he says, sure, why not? Yeah, because he's not an idiot. But another producer had teed up another cartoon by Heidi Pellman who did a comic strip about a psychiatrist. I guess they're going to see the heads of their bets and see who's cartoon soon to the show more. And when they started making the show, when it went into production,
Starting point is 00:48:31 they were only getting submissions from Heidi, but they stopped getting cartoons from Matt. And when they looked into it, graining had bailed because when he got the contract, part of the deal was that life, inhale, the merchandising would now belong to Fox. And at that point, that's how he's scraping along making a living with male orders people like T shirts and Merchandise and stuff and he thought well this cartoons are not gonna make me rich
Starting point is 00:48:53 Then I'll lose this money. So he was like nah also he had a night a deal with the publishers was gonna get a bit messy You're looking out so he said don't worry about it They were pretty keen on his drawings over Heidi so they said how about you create some new characters, ones that we could license. And he said, sure, well not. Wow, that's cool. And the story is that in the car and the way to the pitch meeting with Fox, we had to tell them a new idea. He was asked, have you got your new idea yet? And he said, no. And they said, we're on the way to the meeting now. So he sketched out a few characters
Starting point is 00:49:25 based on his own family, the Simpson family. Another story is that he did it in the Fox waiting room. But either all. But probably pretty last minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you think, even if it was just a couple of days before, because it was last minute, even if it was, if it was, it had time.
Starting point is 00:49:42 But when you consider the thought of a totally new idea that would go on to be the most successful and longest running cartoon and prime time show of all time, it's amazing even if you spent like a couple of weeks on it. Yeah, that's so cool. He's Simpson family, we're crew drawings, named after his own family, are the producers of the old one show Life Them
Starting point is 00:50:00 and Fox like them, so they signed a deal with Matt that would prove to be extremely lucrative. He was going to be given a percentage of all merchandise sold. To this day, Matt personally signs off every bit of Simpson's merchandise and gets a percentage of all the sales. Wow. That's a good deal for me. Yeah, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:50:18 That's a mouth coming from a relatively strong position, but I guess he's proved that he is willing to walk. And they'd spec- it's been speculated that Fox offered him the steel so they could pay him less upfront, because they were thinking, we're just signing you to do some one-minute cartoons. Yeah. Who's going to want to buy merchandise anyway? Yeah, that's so good.
Starting point is 00:50:34 So we can pay him half as much, but give him way more merchandise. But because of this, TV companies apparently don't do deals like this anymore because of what it can. Because at the time of the meeting, the then 33 year old Matt had to take a bus home because he couldn't afford a car, and now he is worth $500 million. Wow. Mainly because of this deal. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:50:57 So he should be, fucking hell. Yeah, but is that awesome? Yeah. So they probably paid him shit all, but then... He's still done okay. Wow. Totally good. Now because the rest of the Tracy Almond Show
Starting point is 00:51:10 was not animated, they had to find an animation studio just to make the Simpson's short. Fox looked at roughly 200 animation studios for the job. That's too many. A small company called Class B Chupo was chosen, run by husband and wife team Gable Chupo. Klaspi and Chupo. An Arlene Klaspi. What a, that sounds like a made up gibberish name.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Klaspi Chupo, no. It totally does. That's offensive. Those are their names. I believe these are Hungarian. You fuck. I'm so sorry. I love Hungarian salami.
Starting point is 00:51:44 That's not the same as the people. I'll accept it. Oh, interesting. Predamed. Are they? They're now the King of Hungary. But have you heard of Class B 2PO? No. No. They, uh, they'd go on to produce and animate the Nickelodeon classics. Rugrats. Rugrats. Rugrats. Are real monsters, the wild thornberries and rocket peep- I knew I knew it. Oh, they're all- they're all- they're all- they're all- they're all- they're all- they've got a very similar style. So that's- they're knew it. They played the end of rocket. Yeah. They've got a very similar style.
Starting point is 00:52:06 So that's the different, very different from the Simpsons. Yeah, so I guess that was then making their own thing. Yeah. This is. That's cool. Yeah, and they got the gig by offering to add color for the same price as just black and white, which is what James L. Brook initially wanted. He wanted a color.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And they were like, oh, do a foot more throwing in the color. Which is way harder for an animator. He was like, all right, you got the jump. Cool. MacGreting reportedly found. What was that you just said there? Said suckers. Oh suckers. But I said a bit funny.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I thought you were trying to say success and you said it weird, like suckers. I was like, all right. Both work. Yeah, both good. Sorry Dave. And I was just saying that MacGreting reportedly found human skin tone portrayed in cartoons That's what it's all right. Yeah, that's good. Sorry Dave. I was just saying that MacGrading reportedly found human skin tone portrayed in cartoons
Starting point is 00:52:48 to be quite free-kiss at the time. Animator Georgie Palucci decided to make Marge skin yellow on a hair blue. Fox at first went so keen, but Gabor Chupo asked them, talked to them into it, and they decided to make all the characters yellow. And also it's been pointed out that when you're flicking channels it's very distinct. Oh that's true. Yeah. Unlike anything else, even since the success, no one else has made. Well nobody else would now would they?
Starting point is 00:53:18 No. Because it's so classic to the Simpsons. So now even if a show was completely different, if they had the characters yellow, people don't have to show the Simpsons. You know, like a slow unique to them. The success of the Simpsons, I will talk about a lot of cartoons popped up
Starting point is 00:53:35 trying to catch you on the Simpsons. Yeah, totally. But interesting that no one would be like, oh no, good, that extent. Yeah. Even future album, I didn't go that way. Yeah, so they look similar Or is it's a macaroni and create graining created show but
Starting point is 00:53:50 Didn't have the yellow for the voices in the original one minute shorts for Some of the main characters the producers decided to keep it simple with Homer and Marge and Just use actors that were already regulars on the Tracy Olmond show. And I see. So they grabbed Dan Castanoletta, who voiced Homer and still was his Homer. He was appearing on the Tracy Almond show just as a part of the cast. Before landing the role on the show, he was working as a voiceover guy in radio. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:54:18 His voice for the character started out as a loose impression of Walter Mathau from the old couple. Yeah. Can you do do a Walter Matthew. I'm damn sure again Dennis is also on Dennis. He wasn't a Just like that too. I can do an impression of Matt doing impression of Walter Matthew. Please. What's that? Very good Very good indeed. Oh, Dennis. You've got up to mischief again. Oh the pointing is nice. Oh Dennis You've got up to mischief again. Oh not as good. You pointed with the wrong hand. That was Matt. Yeah No, I know you were doing Matt doing all this. I was telling you that Matt did it twice and the listener was like oh my god
Starting point is 00:54:57 But they never did that. They definitely knew. I'm putting words in your mouth, listen Get that hot tongue out of their mouths. It's interesting, nervous, boss. And there he is. Your eye work today has been... Just off chops. When you've got eyes this big, you may as well use them. Okay, but... I'll talk with my eyes for now.
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Starting point is 00:56:23 Always drive safely. call 803334kea for details. I'll be straight safely. So it was originally a multi-math out, but it later involved into a more robust voice self-described and he said because he couldn't do the voice he initially did for 9 or 10 hours straight. So the original Homer, he just legit couldn't keep doing it week after week after week after week after. Yeah, just more of a deeper version of sound voice.
Starting point is 00:56:47 But yeah, I'd remember the early, you know, that 138 episode spectacular and they showed old clips for their actual old clips. Yeah. Yeah. What does matter, never mind. That clip, they always wanted if they were fucking within saying, look how these old episodes didn't exist, but That was really true. We're sure they genuinely is a clip show. Yeah, that's interesting. They also adding other stuff like
Starting point is 00:57:10 I need did sound like a bit like Walter Matthew Yeah, the voices completely different totally is but they stuck with him and he would go on to voice numerous other characters including Grand Power Simpson, Bonnie Gumball, Crossy the Clown, Grantskeeper Willie, Mayor Quimby, Handsmall Man, Suther Mel, Ipci, Kodos, the squeaky voice teen, Ani Pai, and Old Gill. That's all one guy. Old Gill.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Make the sale, Gill, make the sale. I love Gill. Gill is great. Gill is so good. It's like, who's that there? Is that Fred? Oh no, don't put him on. I'm going to talk to him about something that's fair.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Oh, that's a good. Julie Kavanaugh was already an Emmy award-winning actress as well as being a regular on the Almanac show. She was chosen to voice March using her normal speaking voice almost exactly. Oh, wow. She also voices Marge's mother, Jacqueline Bouvier, and Sister's Patty and Selma Bouvier.
Starting point is 00:58:07 So she just does all the Bouvier. That makes sense. Yeah, we need to have someone do the near, a very close Marge impression, but they got Dan to do it. So that's the two people that were already on the show and then they started casting around. Yet, Yadly Smith was brought in
Starting point is 00:58:23 because the casting director remembered that she had a funny voice. Doesn't have a pretty funny voice. She was only 22 at the time when she was asked to read for the part of BART. When they didn't work out she auditioned for Lisa and got the pass. Yeah, cool. She was born in Paris in Cape at the USA age two and holds dual citizenship. She is the only member of the main cast who sold
Starting point is 00:58:43 her voices one character so she just does Lisa. Oh,'s cool yeah. No other character. Yeah that makes it. She's a Scientologist or something. No she's a Scientologist but Nancy can't write and who was initially brought into audition for the role of Lisa but when she saw a picture of Bart and a bread of brief description about him she improvised the line. Well man yeah to which Granny said that's it that's him that's our bar. So I'll say one came in for Lisa one came for Bob. Yeah they swatched. That's cool. Wall man yeah that's the line that got to the
Starting point is 00:59:12 role that would make her an absolute millionaire. That's some good improv. Matt is. Matt on spot go. Give us give us some improv. I'm coming in I'm playing a boy character okay. Oh no booby-doboo we'll call you okay and it probably will be enough it's just a second we get a row we've auditioned oh I've got one how about uh yeah man whoa you got the job thank you that was
Starting point is 00:59:39 so clearly that's how about that's our boy that's's our buddy boy. That's our day even the podcast. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, before you give it a go, give me one more chance. I'll say you walk for that. Well, whoa, boobity boo. Yeah, see, it's the boobity boo that I'm not. Yeah, that's a problem. I'm, I'm, I'm will not budge on the boobity boo. And I will not budge either. So I think we're an impah. Thank you for your time. And for wasting money. Look, I'm not gonna tell you.
Starting point is 01:00:07 And I will see you in hell. Good day, sir. Like the cartoon of the movie. There is the door. You're saying there is the door. Having one in hell. There's the door. There's a door right there behind you.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah, I'm looking at the door. What next? Walk through it. All because you said, the door. The door. The door. This is fucked. Yeah, well, you at the door. What next walk through it all because you said the door boop ity boop. This is fuck yeah, well this is how you're gonna run business or this TV show is gonna be bullshit and you'll never be successful and sucker fuck you can also sucker fuck sir and you can sucker fuck sir. Hey I just can't and you can also sucker fuck for and you can suck
Starting point is 01:00:43 for fucker It's so many people in this edition. We've actually got a different part that you would probably be great for It's an angry old man. Yeah, thank you Thank you. I accept thank you. I accept bibitibu. Oh We didn't look at no get out remember that's exactly what happens when the audition poochie he does his voice Oh, I'm rocking poochie and then he says I'm sorry next and he's like oh, I didn't get the part Hey, yeah, thank you because he sats them. That would be what I'm with you Matt. If you've ever done an audition Back to Nancy can't write she joined the the church of Scientology in 1991
Starting point is 01:01:19 He's like, oh, she was awarded a Scientology's patron laureate Award and all she had to do with that To win that was to donate ten million dollars what twice her annual salary to the church in 2007 how How did she oh? 2007 I understand I'm not straight away. She didn't buy it. Yeah. I thought she'd done it within the first two years I was like how Ten million dollars. That's all she has paid five million a year Well, we'll talk about their wages. Oh, in my nut at all.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Yeah. Be honest. I can't write all the voices Nelson. Todd Flannies. Ha ha. Ralph Wiggum. And Kerni. Kerni.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Oh, so only one of the Flannies boys. Yeah. I assume they're both the same. Who's Kerni? The White T-shirt wearing a big bully. Yes, Scotch app, yep. Thank you. Harry Shira came on board after producer Sam's Simon asked him to and told him it would only be an hour or a week's work.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Harry as later said, Sam lied. Shira had at this stage already had two stints on Saturday night live and co-wrote, co-created and starred as Derek Smalls, the bass player in one of the greatest movies of all time. This is Spinal Tap. Do you guys like Spinal Tap? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Hey Rock. Please don't ask me any full questions. I also like the movie we're talking about. I think your theme song... What's your anti-themed song? Big bottoms. Big bottoms. Big bottoms. Oh, I like big bottoms. I just have a Oh, okay, he likes big butts and he cannot lie fuck. That's my one weakness. I cannot lie about these other brothers can't deny my other brothers
Starting point is 01:03:00 Boppery boop You've got the part! Wait, hang on! Harry doesn't voice any of the main family but he voices many, many characters including Monty Burns! Skinner! Yes! Monty Burns, Skinner! Oh!
Starting point is 01:03:17 We have a lovejoy! No! Yes! Yes, he does a... He yelled over you and did not hear your answer! Yes, he does. Monty Burns, did not hear answer. Yes, he does. He does. He also does smithers, meaning he has a lot of conversations with himself. And it happens to all of us.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Oh, Ned Flanders, Principal Skinner, Otto, Reverend Lovejoy, Dr. Hibbit, Ken Brockman, Jasper, Lenny, Eddie, Mick Bain, Scratchy, and many more one-off characters. Oh, Jesus. That's such good range. There are some pretty very voices in that. The difference between Lenny and like Mick Bane. Yeah. That's a difference. Give us an example. Hi, I'm Lenny. And I am Mick Bane. I'm Mick Bane.
Starting point is 01:03:58 There we go. Very good. That's the range right there. And finally, Hank Azaria, also just 22 years old at the time of auditioning, he was starring a one-man player that apparently no one was going to see when he got a call to audition for the role of Mo. He did a bad El Pacino impression, impression he was doing in the one-man play. And he got the gig. Awesome. When he joined the show, he'd previously only ever done one voiceover role, which is amazing
Starting point is 01:04:23 as he two dozen millions of characters including up who? Mo, Chief Wiggum, comic book guy, Lou, Carl, Dr. Nick, Snake, Kirkfanhouten, the Sea Captain, Bumblebee Man, Cletus,
Starting point is 01:04:37 Superintendent Charlemers, Dreddric Tatum, and many more. I love Dr. Nick. Dr. Nick is great. Ah, it isn't Mr. McGregg with a leg for an arm. I don't know, I'm brilliant. I just really... I feel like troublesome now, little troublesome.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Apparently, at the time, yeah, he claims that they wanted it to be like a stereotypical Indian person, but then they later said that he came out with a voice for that one. Right. Oh, everyone blaming everyone, eh? So there we have our main voice crew. So the one minute source for the Simpsons was pretty basic, focusing on the family's daily life, where the kids being kids and annoying their parents. Kids. They love to annoy.
Starting point is 01:05:18 That's right. Matt Granting would turn up on set with a two-page script, and then the voice actors would go off and record the voices in between blocking and rehearsals for the show. And then the animation studio had one week to make the show a week to week. Cool. Just tried to keep ahead. In the first two seasons the shorts were divided into three or four parts, but in the third season they would play it as a single story. And according to some, out of everything on the show the cartoons got the biggest laughs from the live audience and the producers knew they were onto something good I say how many so there's a we're in a multiple seasons now
Starting point is 01:05:50 Yeah, I was the last of that long. Well, they did four seasons of the Tracy Almond show Oh, so you know you'd call that some sort of a success Yeah, so it's not like a bum or anything. It's just that sadly it's only remembered Yeah, because of the The show the sims came out of yeah of here yeah so anything would come out of that even the Drew Caryshow would feel too off we all know how great that was did the Drew Caryshow come out of Tracy Albert
Starting point is 01:06:13 no leave learn rocks leave learn rocks run styles Cleveland in what state Jess higher higher the greater the grater the grater state of them all yeah Cleveland in what state, Jess? Ohio. Ohio, the greatest. The Grader's Ohio, right? The greatest state of them all. Yeah. Ohio.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Ohio. Jess Packens in Geography Girl. She can identify anything on a map. If it's clearly labeled. What's that? Land. What's this? That's a water.
Starting point is 01:06:43 That's a water. More land. What's that? That's the edge of the map. The map? That's a cork board. This is my fridge. That's my mum. She's just touching her face at the point. Just kind of touching her nose or like a cheek a little bit. This mum.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Annie. Annie. Stop touching Annie on the face. She loves it. She hates it. She's like, get off me. I'm like, I love you. No one loves that. Being pointed out.
Starting point is 01:07:12 She loves it. So the point of touching there knows. Interesting. No one. Oh, I like it. Oh no. Dave, do you go on. When the cast were being made up, in order to entertain the audiences, the crew would
Starting point is 01:07:24 play a bunch of these one-minute cartoons back to back and the audience loved it. But what are the main reasons James L. Brooks considered taking the show to a full series was the director of the many shorts David Silverman, a costume at a Christmas party whilst very, very drunk, and a Brooks had never heard someone speak so passionately to him, mainly because people were scared to death of him about How making the Simpsons into a full show what it would mean for animation and For primetime television. Wow. So he was like, yeah, someone's finally telling me how they feel
Starting point is 01:07:56 What's cool? So you know what happened there? Alcohol saved another day As a always that's where we're alcohol proved to be Alcohol saved another day Where alcohol proved to be good. Mm-hmm. I rest my case your honor and Yes, I will drink drive again And no and you can fuck your tray off and I don't care that it was in your front yard I was drinking the good juice as I call it whiskey. I came up with that May. The good juice. I think we should hire him after all. We've been providing madman. Bob and a boot. Now everyone did again. Whilst all this is
Starting point is 01:08:41 happening Fox, we're actually looking to shut down the Simpson shorts because they're costing about 15 grand a week and apparently not testing well with the audience survey, despite when they play it to the live audience, they love it. But now Jim Brooks had an idea and when Jim Brooks has an idea, he does what he wants. Jim Brooks, what a cool dude. You'll notice at the start of every episode of The Simpsons after the couch gag, you know, when they sit on the couch, which I never considered this, but when researching this, it makes complete sense. They tailor the couch gag to be as long as they need to make up the rest of the episodes. So if they have an extreme, like a short episode, if they're short a minute,
Starting point is 01:09:18 they play that really long one where they're all dancing with elephants and the circus and stuff. But if they don't have enough time, they shorten the intro altogether, or make it a really quick one. So it's just a device to kill an extra minute of television each week. That's why they have the long, Matt graining wanted a really long theme song. He didn't realize,
Starting point is 01:09:35 because he hadn't watched TV apparently since the 70s. He'd given up on it. He did. He didn't realize that TV shows no longer did long theme songs at the time. He was like, yeah, just like they did in the 70s. A great long theme song. We have a car chase. It'll be amazing.
Starting point is 01:09:50 And then they made it, and they were like, well, at least we don't have to animate a minute of TV, really. Yeah, that's pretty good. We've got that. It's smart. But you'll notice after the car chase on the main TV, it says, created by Matt Groening, and that says, developed by Matt Groening, James L. Brooks and the third name is Sam Simon.
Starting point is 01:10:07 We come to our third main player in the development of the Simpsons. Sam Simon was already a veteran writer and producer who had worked with Brooks on taxi. He worked on the Tracy Olmonsho and it also written for cheers. He was here. He was here. He knows your name. And that name, Sam Simon. also written for cheers. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here.
Starting point is 01:10:26 He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here.
Starting point is 01:10:34 He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here.
Starting point is 01:10:42 He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. He was here. credited with being the chief architect behind the Simpsons responsible for developing the heart and soul of the show when adapting it from these one minute shorts about a family to a full length series about an entire town. Sam developed and defined the looks for chief Wiggum, Mr. Burns, Dr. Hibbit and nearly all the characters voiced by guest stars. He put together the models, which are the basic set of drawings of each character that the animators work from. So he's like the basic is what they look like when they're doing this, this, this, and now you fill in the blanks. He made those.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Hmm. Reading what people say about Sam, he seemed to be revered, but much like James Book, probably a bit, James Elbrus, are probably a bit hard to work with. That grading said, I think Sam is brilliantly funny and one of the smartest writers I've ever worked with, although unpleasant and mentally unstable. Oh. A bitter relationship would develop between Matt and Sam. In the Washington Post after the first series said, Ed, Matt said, I'm involved in every creative aspect, from conception of ideas to writing scripts, to directing voices, to designing characters. Sam replied, he's doing a lot of other stuff for the show, merchandising and things like that. He's like the show's
Starting point is 01:11:48 ambassador. So they both wanted to be the man. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Matt actually developed the template of the Simpsons, specifically the family and Sam turned it into a whole world and made it more than just the Simpsons. Oh okay, yeah cool. So he came up with the idea and then many people that Sam over the first few seasons developed it. When the Simpsons exploded, Matt would be the face of the brand as he was the creator. So everyone wanted to interview him, the newspapers wanted to write about where's his show come from, they saw the creator and also James O'Brook's because he'd won all those
Starting point is 01:12:23 Oscars and those Emmys. Everyone already knew who he was. Sam Simon was famous in the TV world, but largely in the mainstream was unwritten about and this pissed him off. It also made the other writers laugh that graining would lap up the spotlight and talk about being in the writers room late at night when he actually didn't have that much involvement with the writing of the full show. Running joke early on in the writers room later at night when he actually didn't have that much involvement with the writing of the full show. Running joke early on in the writers room was that Matt had been assigned a script to write a full script so that he was in charge of, and over the first seasons of the show it never materialized.
Starting point is 01:12:54 The joke was that he was going to hand it in any day now, and it never came. But Sam was like smashing out ideas. Apparently, most times, a lot of times they'd come up with a punchline for a joke And everyone would say this and about nine times out of ten they'd go with Sam's idea Wow, but they I've also read that if you had a better idea than his he was happy to go with it He wasn't like no you got to do my idea The best idea one so much like in this podcast we would go for Dave's joke Nine times out of ten yeah come on man much like in this podcast we would go for Dave's joke. No, I'm not a 10.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Yeah, come on mate. Yeah, look at it, I'd like to run the numbers. Oh fuck, here we go. Matt, what, you are the numbers go? The relationship between Matt and Sam got worse. I must like, Matt and myself. Matt and myself. Matt and Matt, the problem with the podcast is I'm not giving the credit that I'm doing again.
Starting point is 01:13:48 I don't know where it is, but do go ahead. Matt eventually snubbed Sam of the Emmys and did invite him to sit at the Simpsons table. Oh, bro, show. Hi, oh. Sam would eventually leave at the end of the fourth series, but as a credit to how much he developed the show, he would continue to earn $20 to $30 million a year up until his death from cancer in 2015.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Wow. He then bequeathed his entire $100 million estate to various charities. He'd supported throughout his lifetime. Oh, wow, that's cool. But to get to the end of the four-series for him to leave, we've got to have the first series. So to get the first series off the ground,
Starting point is 01:14:29 they put seven of the one-minute episodes together and secretly tested it with audiences. And it tested through the roof. People love that shit. They showed a huge surprise. They love that shit. Yeah. They showed Barry Dillow, who's the guy
Starting point is 01:14:44 the head of Fox that resurrected is or cloned his dog He was sceptical. Oh Nothing. He was like can I climb my dog? No, my dog from this. Yeah, that's all I care about I want to Jack Russell on my desk by the end of business And if not, and I want it to be the exact same as my current dog Thank you, and I don't have that dog you don't have a series. You know what James. I don't have that dog, you don't have a series. You know what? James L. Brooks got that dog.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Because he's fucking James L. Brooks. He knew animation costs a lot. And he knew that James L. Brooks probably wouldn't want to just do a pilot. He'd want a full series. Because he's James L. Brooks. Sure. You don't give James L. Brooks a pilot.
Starting point is 01:15:21 He gave him a fucking series. He doesn't have a fast. No, exactly. So Barry was a bit worried, because's gonna cost heaps. Barry took Rupert, the big boss of Fox, aside and secretly showed him the shorts that they put together and Rupert loved it. He thought it was hilarious and told Barry you got to buy this tonight. Wow. But they shopped around, they shopped the idea around, they showed it at the heads of ABC Television who loved it and they said they'd buy it on the spot. Dilla heard that the ABC was idea, around the show, to the heads of ABC television, who loved it, and they said they'd buy it on the spot.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Dilla heard that the ABC was interested, so he committed $13 million to secure 13 episodes. What? They played them off against each other. A million dollars an episode. What? Imagine that's, that's hapes in the 80s as well. Yeah, big money for a cartoon.
Starting point is 01:16:00 That's so much. For a cartoon. Yeah, I wonder how much it would cost now. Imagine just because of voice times. The voice times cost millions and every time. And I've got to say at this time the very idea of doing a cartoon for adults at prime time was super out there. The last time they'd done that was at the end of 1966 for the Flintstones. So no one's done it over 20 years and there's no like South Park or family
Starting point is 01:16:21 going to thing like that. obviously they get influenced by this. So people are unsure if this one minute show that people like could actually be a half hour TV series. Yeah. Wow. To make it suitable, James L. Brooks wanted to make it way deeper than the one minute show. So that's why he wanted more about the town,
Starting point is 01:16:38 more stuff going on. Yeah. Not just, because the one minute show, so I've watched a few of them, because some are on YouTube. It is like, Homer being pissed off that Bart does silly stuff. Yep. Which is cool for a minute, but like, you know, they don't have the heart and the soul and like the recurring jokes or...
Starting point is 01:16:53 Just the context. Yeah, and just the... You know how the Simpsons makes you feel human a lot of time. There was a big change right when it early on, especially it was a show about Bart and then... I've heard people say that it got better when Homer became the main guy. Yeah, so I will talk about Bart Mania when that dies down what they do instead. But initially money was tight and they had to edit the series out the back of a tiny trailer for the first six months. But the sims has moved up in the world in 1988 when they got their own lot at Fox. The writers room was in Gracie Film's bungalow, which was a bungalow formally owned
Starting point is 01:17:30 by Marilyn Monroe. Oh cool. It's probably nicer than any bungalow I've ever been. Oh definitely. I imagine some shitty bungalow. I don't think so. Better than the bungalow you lived in, Matt. Is it a teen? Three by three made a cube. Oh yeah. That's right, did I have a window? That was a small window. It was permanently open. Because the Simpson looked unlike all cartoons of the old animation style, Disney, Warner Brothers, Flintstones, all that kind of stuff, you think about it, looks nothing like that.
Starting point is 01:18:02 The animation head Sherry Gunnth, they got a lot of younger animators and student animators who would come in and easily adapt to their new style, unlike older veterans who were sort of stuck in their ways. Things like Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, they found it easier to teach new young talent how to do it. So these young animators would, and also they'd have new ideas so they'd define the look of the show, young people. Wow. The Sims are the needed theme song for that very long intro I was talking about. So they got Danny Elfman, legendary composer and musician to make the theme song.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Took him three days, two hours, 48 minutes, and 19 seconds. But who's counting? But who's counting? He is a very famous composer, won a lot of awards, and he realizes that he's most famous who workers the Sims and the Sims song. Wow. Great tune. Matt Granting had approached him and asked me. I got one good. and he realizes that he's most famous workers the Simpson's theme song. Wow.
Starting point is 01:18:46 It's great tune. Matt Granting had approached him and asked him how that one go. A Louie Louie. Oh no. We gotta go. A-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a What was that? The Kingsman? Yes. Matt Grady here to approach Elfman and ask for a retro style theme song. And it took two days to record with a full orchestra. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Now for the first episode, the animators would draw a storyboard for each of the commission episodes. It would be accompanied by extensive notes for directions and camera instructions, and then they'd send the rest to South Korea where they were animated by hand by hundreds of artists who were paid not very much. Really? Wow. Because it would take so long, so send these off and they'd have to wait months before
Starting point is 01:19:31 they see anything back. Obviously, when you're making a pilot or a series or another thing, you can watch the edit from that day. So you have an idea of what's going on. But they had to wait months and they had no idea it was going to come back. And when it finally came, they were pretty excited to see, you know, the pilot. 50 people crammed into a tiny room to watch the first episode. They were so fucking excited.
Starting point is 01:19:50 And it was awful. Oh, really? The animation was unwatchable. It was out of sync. The color was off. Everything looked shit-house. Oh, no. The animators had also taken some license, including when the family are watching a TV show called the happy elves meet the curious bear club a Bear cub tears the head off an elf and starts drinking its blood and they're like this is not the show we want to make great great
Starting point is 01:20:16 That's pretty funny. Yeah, so everyone's super excited. They've all watched it. Everyone's like yeah, yeah, they watch it Then no one says anything is highlands and then James Elbrough says He stands up and says do you think we could thin out the ranks a bit and everyone fucking ran out the room So and it was just left was a couple of producers Matt graining James Elbrough and head animator and they all felt like they were fucked They were like we just ordered 13 of these this looked terrible So they had to delay the series to work out the kinks. A big problem with the animation is people were struggling to draw in grainings and styles.
Starting point is 01:20:51 So he's really like Cartooning and just draws it in a second and throws it off. But that's not good to reproduce over and over and over again. So they had to round out. The characters a little bit, make them a bit round us. So you'll see between the shorts and the first episode, they look a little bit different. And then as the series goes on, now they look completely...
Starting point is 01:21:08 In that 138 episode you see, yeah, it's so different, they sort of get unsquashed. Yeah, and that's much easier to, like even the shirts they're wearing and stuff, it's super easy to make. Fortunately, the next episode that came in was a Christmas themed episode called Simpsons, roasting on an open fire and it looked a lot better So it was decided that everything would be delayed up until Christmas so the Simpsons could debut as a Christmas special Ah cool, and that's what happened on the 17th of December 1989. Good year. Good year, Matt. And that's the first year with the that's the first one with the dog
Starting point is 01:21:43 Yeah, that's right the first time with, that's the first one with the dog. Yeah, that's right, the first one with the dog. El Helper. And that's the first ever, it was the second highest rating show in Fox's history up until that point. So it did well. What was number one? Not sure. Married to the children was on at the same time, that was their big show, so probably that
Starting point is 01:21:58 I would say. Cool. The series continued the following month, so they took it, they had the Chris' special, a few weeks off, 14th of January, so the only ever episode to be in the 80s was that first episode, it only houses the 90s, 1990, 14th of January. A good year. A good year. The Year of Al. Can we afford this?
Starting point is 01:22:17 Birth. We are your Lord. The Year of Al. Or what was it again that you called me earlier today? Was it Lord? Did you call it a religious figure? Something like that. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:22:29 But I digress. I mean, we've talked about it so much. People don't want us to talk about that. No, they don't want to know. The Simpsons continue the 14th of January in its regular Sunday 830 slot in America. That's when it first came out. The numbers are only improved. By May the Simpsons was number one at its time slot, top 20 for the week. Wow. And at that
Starting point is 01:22:50 time Foxx was only available in 4 out of 5 homes in America so they're missing a big part of the market. So considering it's doing very well. 4 out of 5. So they're missing. 1 out of 5, which is? A fifth. Which is? As a percentage, Jess. 20. 20, well done! I clapped for myself. Numbers! The Simpsons quickly became Fox's biggest show, even bigger than Married With Children.
Starting point is 01:23:17 And that classic Married With Children theme song. A lu-lu-ui! Oh! We got him. A-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a I don't know, Peg. And then a toilet flushes in the whole laugh. That's it. That's it. That's it. I don't know, Peg. In a nutshell. That's it. Critically, monetarily and comedically, the Simpsons was a huge success from the end of
Starting point is 01:23:56 its 13th episode run. It went so well that they were worried about what to do when the series finished. Moodlec wanted constant reader-ons, but Brooks and Simon didn't want to exhaust their success with saturating the market with their show. This is a time where the executives were right and the creators were wrong, because the reed runs were incredibly popular and just kept bringing more and more fans on board.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Well, that's like how we would watch the series. It was often... But it freaks me out to think, when I started watching it, I was like 1998 or something, so they've got the first eight series. It's about 200 episodes to cycle through but if they're playing six a week that's every series on on the Saturday and Sunday. I can't think of
Starting point is 01:24:32 a time when the Simpsons didn't exist. Yeah. When the second series came the Fox executives had a big bold plan. A big bold plan. A big bump there, big bump. The move the Simpsons from Sunday to Thursday. No, it's a bold plan. I've always loved Thursdays. And Thursday night would mean it would go up against the biggest show on TV at the time, the reigning champion. Oh, let me guess.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Sign. I don't see how it's saying it. I was gonna say 60 minutes. That was really popular on that part of Thursdays. It's a family-friendly show that now you wouldn't even rerun because of what's happened since. Cosby, it's the Cosby show. That was huge for me.
Starting point is 01:25:11 So that was a fucking massive, the biggest family friendly show at the time. Yeah, not so family friendly, am I right? It was decided that the Simpsons would go up against this juggernaut and the newspaper's built it up like a boxing match. The LA Times headline, but this is Bill. New York Times, Simpsons to compete with Cosby. That's crazy, yeah, cool.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Sam Simon didn't like this idea and thought it was distracting away from the show. So what he did, he created a character called Dr. Hebert that lost sweaters, laughed stupidly and made fun of Bill Cosby. Yeah, I like Dr. Hebertett's laugh which I cannot do. No, it's hard. It's like a... But have a go.
Starting point is 01:25:50 No, I think Jess got pretty close there. I don't think I'll beat that. No, but I if you could please there we go that's a's better. If you could please laugh like that from now on, that would be really great. Yeah, it's a bad, that's a bad. So the big night came, but versus Bill. And when the ratings came in, Bill Cosby, this is as a percentage of all viewers, 18.5. That's big. The Simpsons, 18.4.
Starting point is 01:26:26 That's just bizarre, but what do you think about the fact that only four out of five televisions got Fox? Yeah, it was pretty great and I only continue to improve it by Thanksgiving They beat Bill Cosby take that Bill Cosby last series of the Cosby show they make the Simpsons They genuinely that is sort of that's pretty brutal TV to go we're gonna try and take you down Yeah, yeah, in there. I guess it's business Yeah, it's a crazy light Bit lady light bit crazy light now I'm saying alright So sure I know what you're saying, but I like it. I like how you say it even though I don't know what you're saying
Starting point is 01:27:03 The symptoms continue to continue to improve and officially be caused by thanksgiving and now the Simpsons prove they could officially compete with anyone. If I was going to audition for a part with Bid Bid Bid Bid Bid Bid. It would have been Cosby Show. Oh yeah, no, okay. Oh Jesus. But. Or the Flippin and the Flippin and the Bid Bid Bid Bid Bid Bid Bid Bin' in. The world went crazy for the Simpsons.
Starting point is 01:27:26 It was a hit, ratings rise to Fox, and was a top 10 show overall. Emergentizing boom began and Fox signed a deal with Mattel and 50 other product licenses. TV Emergentizing like this had never been seen before. When TV Guide put the Simpsons on the cover, it sold more issues than any other that year. Six TV Cartoon sitcoms were put into development by other networks trying to compete, all inspired by the Simpsons. Steven Spielberg and Tim Burton developed Family Dog. Show created by Brad Bird, who worked on a lot of cartoons and now directs films like Mission Impossible. But it only started off with family dog.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Family dog. It only aired two episodes. Oh really? I would have thought family dogs would have done really well. They can't have the family dog. Family dog was put in the bin. But as Bart said in the early as Bart said as Matt said about Bart in the early days was all about Bart. He was a cold full phenomenon and it was described as Bart Mania. Bart was seen as critics as obnoxious and a bad influence and shirts that read underachiever and proud of it were banned from many public schools.
Starting point is 01:28:34 No fun. In an interview with People magazine in 1990, then first Lady Barbara Bush described the show as the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Barbara Bush described the show as the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Marge responded in character with a tongue-in-cheek letter saying, I've always thought we've had a great deal in common, each of us living our lives to serve a great man. The lady wrote back and apologized for her loose tongue and if you remember later on they had two bad neighbors. Yes. Barbara Bush and George were seeing you. A really good episode which was based on Dennis the Menace. The revenue for the first year for merchandising was estimated to be $750 million.
Starting point is 01:29:14 In the first year did you say? $750 million. In 1991, Matt Granting made Forbes list of top 40 richest entertainers with an estimated $18 million in their earnings. Oh my God. Imagine if he'd bestad Anti-establishment it said no Yeah, that's why you should always say yes to the man fuck you That's where the big dollars come from baby Name a rich hippie, you know name one Can you be rich and a hippie? Can name some rich past hippies exactly?
Starting point is 01:29:46 Can you be rich and a hippie can name some rich past hippies exactly sell out sell out sell out Sell out get your millions get a yacht Live your life. I am willing to sell out for a yacht. I'll say that I don't know if I want a yacht or that big on boats, but you don't want a yacht I don't get a rich pinpoint yacht. Yeah, I don't get that. Don't you like the idea of sailing the 17? Not really no Yeah, or I'd like to fly. Fly? Yeah, fly me to the middle. Alright, fine. I'll buy you a fucking golf stream. You want that? Yeah, but it's the things that make the water sparkle. That's only funny to you because Dave never remembers the name of soda streams. I can't remember what it's got. Now that doesn't
Starting point is 01:30:19 make any sense to me. If we know mate, we know. I'll take a, would you rather, Soda Streamer or Yacht? Soda Streamer. You poor bastards. Growing up in the afro Neste, more of a with the Yacht life, not the soda life. You would make my own soda? I fucking own Pepsi. You would so get Sasek. Yeah, I would.
Starting point is 01:30:41 You wouldn't even be able to enjoy your own fucking Yacht. Have these bubbles to calm you stomach, and I'd be like, I refuse. I will not put them near my tongue tongue. My burning tongue tongue. My hot tongue. A 1991 music and record label legend David Geffen had the idea of doing a Simpsons Christmas
Starting point is 01:30:59 album. Christmas that year. It became the Simpsons Sing the Blues. The writers wrote humorous lyrics for the characters to sing over blues and hip-hop tracks produced by DJ Jesse Jeff oh man it sounds like the worst so dear the album album went triple platinum within weeks could I be DJ Jesse Jess yes oh that's good thank you so much that could be I'm pretty jazzy woman yeah I don't know when you're gonna be able to use it DJ jazzy what do you call yourself? DJ jazzy Jeff and the fresh princess? now we can call that.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I would probably call myself DJ jazzy what would you say? DJ jazzy Jeff and the fresh princess mmm Matt would you call me a princess? I'm not afraid with that at all. How could it be the winner of a face great? I'm so afraid with okay with being okay on all topics Young and old mm-hmm small and large, especially yacht relators You're afraid with the yachts. I'm so afraid. I've never been sailing in my fucking life. I've been on about two boats Did you get seasick? Oh?
Starting point is 01:32:02 I don't know. Did you oh, yeah? You bloody learn love. I'm a landlubber. I don't know, I did. Oh yeah. You love your landluba. I'm a landluba. I'm a pirate. I am. It just sounds like a nightmare. It's just sailing around the world.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Oh, maintenance too. The line on the wind. And it takes forever. Yeah. Like just fly there. Is it because you reckon you're going to enjoy the journey? Being in like horrible swalls? Squalls. Swalls on things.
Starting point is 01:32:26 You sometimes say squirrel, the American word? Squirrel. Squirrel. Why do you say squirrel? Look at the word. Why is it squirrel? Squirrel. Squirrel.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Squirrel. Squirrel. Also, why do you say Graham and not Graham? If anything, it should be Graham. Oh, Craig. Graham. Not Craig. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Anyway. Craigslist we have We have quite a lot to still get to I'm assuming no when you leave any of it other big I'm the biggest song from other Simpson's sing the blues. Yes single Batman do the Batman. I remember that I was I was alive when they came out. I thought you are co-wrote I can go right it. I was quite old at the time. It was one of my last hits. I was originally called Do The Matt Man.
Starting point is 01:33:10 But no one knew who I was. No, didn't catch on. So, didn't catch on that. Do The Matt Man. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. I was covered by Michael Jackson. Is that just sort of... That's right. It was secretly co-written and co-produced by Michael Jackson who denied it
Starting point is 01:33:22 at the time. Oh, I love the episode where Michael Jackson is in it. Also uncredited, right? Lisa, he couldn't do the voice. Oh, Lisa. He's contracted. But he did. He birthed a Lisa.
Starting point is 01:33:35 We couldn't be credited as the voice. Credit, right. Yeah, and if you think about it, Lisa and your birthday is a genuinely good pop song. It's really good. It's a well written song. I love it. Lisa Richie Birthday is a genuinely good pop song. It's really good. It's a well-written song. I love it. Good Barman. So I was um, uh Lisa, you're Tita Big and Green Lisa. You smell like gasoline Lisa. Da da da Lisa. She used my sister, her birthday. I miss her. I feel very funny.
Starting point is 01:34:03 I've forgotten that but I'm glad I still know it do the Bartman never officially released this is single in the USA but it was in the UK where it sold 400,000 copies that's insane I'm a crazy I'm like like rage or video hits on Saturday mornings these play the film did you go and buy the cassette? Nah, I didn't. The 8 track? Didn't. Did you go and buy the record? No. Did you do Thomas Edison's original gramophone? Yeah, this is on your gramophone?
Starting point is 01:34:32 Did you play it on your player piano? No, no, someone sent it through to me via Morse code. Oh! Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- I don't know why the boss goes making noise. It's just an extension of everything else. Yeah, that's awesome. Oh, yes. But eventually Bart Madia died down. This was evident when Berky King had to send a lot of Bart toys back. Oh, no. But...
Starting point is 01:34:55 Mania. Madia. But Madia took hold. Everyone was obsessed with Bart. They still are. Did the Bart man. But the show itself went from strength to strength. So even though Bart Mania died down,
Starting point is 01:35:07 people still loved the family. And Homer eventually stepped in as the main character. As you were saying, Matt. And they actually found it easier for Homer as an adult to be in more situations than Bart as a naughty kid. Sure. You can't do that much. But Homer can go to space and do all kinds of crazy stuff.
Starting point is 01:35:22 But Homer can go to space. Not Bart. As we all know, kids are banned from space. They're not allowed in. They just can't get through the atmosphere. And of course over the years the show was helped along with a plethora of Simpsons guest stars. The first credited guest star was actor Sam McMurray, who appeared in Homer's Odyssey, the show's third-ever episode. Sam McMurray is best known as Supervisor O'Boyle in the King of Queens and also plays a character in Breaking Bad, like a small character.
Starting point is 01:35:51 But he was the first one to be credited as guest star, but he's not like a big name. What's like on a guest star on this podcast? Yeah, permanent guest star. Every week, guest star and JP. Oh, we did say that you are, this is the 74th episode, which makes you make more episode appearances than the person who's done the most guest
Starting point is 01:36:11 appearances, 52 and that is Phil Hartman. So he was never actually a, as like a guy. He was always guest as. Yeah, right. Listen, he played two of my favorite characters, Lionel Hutz and Troy McCluer. I was about to say Troy McCluer. And I just can love Lionel Hutz. Truma Clua. I was about to say Truma Clua. And he basically doesn't mean that. He's known for us. It's pretty close to me.
Starting point is 01:36:29 They're very similar. Both characters had to be retired when he was murdered by his wife in 1998. Oh, that's so. Oh my god. I remember that morning here and that on the on the right. Yeah. On the wireless. Yeah. Did you hear that on the wireless? Yeah. I mean, yeah. That's shocking. You and the family that on the wireless? Yeah, I mean yeah, I was shocking you and the family standing around and around the wireless Yeah, it was almost like we could see it Wow this when when we first heard radio waves. Yeah, it was so vivid I can feel like you could see the goonies and And the such and Phil Hartman was it in your imagination or betray and so on
Starting point is 01:37:04 Oh, I can picture Phil Hartman now. Yeah, I couldn't before it's sad Yeah, no, no, I do No, you mean it's too late. He was a hard to my favorite top 10 characters I think probably my favorite character either ever is Lionel Huts. Yeah, yeah, the tie bit. Oh, how good is the tie bit? If you look again, I'm not really wearing a tie at all. A red and white striped tie with a Windsor knot. Do we talk about that right now? Yeah, we did.
Starting point is 01:37:31 It's so great. Scientology. Last week. God, thanks for listening to my reports, you digs? Well, we did a lot of Simpsons references last week. You know, it's so bad news. There's been less Simpsons actual joke references on this show. Yeah, which is interesting.
Starting point is 01:37:44 And there'll be more to come. You were really getting us show. Yeah, which is interesting. And they'll probably be more to tell. You were really getting us ready. Yeah, I was hammering it up. Did you knew at the time? Yeah, Chosen. I've been researching for ages, as you can tell. At the time of his death, Phil Hartman, this is a side fact for fans of other shows. Is it a fun fact?
Starting point is 01:38:00 Yes, it is. Oh! And there will be lots of fun facts in the end. It is. Yay! It's a special set, like a record amount, I imagine imagine excellent a heart and I was preparing to voice sap Branigan One of the main characters specifically written for me and Grending's second animated show future Alma he's one of the best character. I love that character
Starting point is 01:38:17 Yeah, he was it was written for him. Yeah, he would have been so good at that Yeah, now just the symptoms like is here at time, because I could go on and on about, will you all know the show, the successor became, but that's sort of just how it all started. Yeah. And at the time of recording, 613 episodes of The Simpsons have been broadcast. Wow.
Starting point is 01:38:33 It's 28th season began in September 2016. It is the longest running American sitcom and the longest running American animated program. And in 2009, it's surpassed Gunsmoke, the old Western, as the longest running American Animated Program and in 2009 it's surpassed Gunsmoke, the old Western, as the longest running American scripted, Primetime Television Series ever. That is incredible. And it's like a cartoon. Yeah, that's amazing.
Starting point is 01:38:53 I mean, it hasn't been good for a long time, but still it keeps going. In its time on screen, 244 other shows have come and gone on the Fox Network, so it's outlived nearly 250 other shows. Wow. Have started and stopped in that time. Do you think they, I mean, obviously you say that they're not as good now. Do you think they're like white, will they,
Starting point is 01:39:14 well, they're a head in a way? Like, can you imagine a world in which the Simpson stops? I know, it will be weird to like find out. It has to eventually. It has to. Yeah, I mean, because the voice, the voice the cast is as remain the same. True, yeah. So they had to take a pay cut we're talking about pay earlier. They were on 400 grand in episode but a few years ago they had to cut it down to 300,000.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Because they always make my show. 100 grand pay cut. Per episode. But how much work are they actually doing? Like how often would they go into the studios? Do they even go into the studio? I think a lot of them have it written in it. This might be bullshit, but I think they might do it remotely. I'm pretty sure they have a studio at home. Yeah, they're just, is that mine or people?
Starting point is 01:39:58 Fuck, if I was making that much money though, I'd have a podcast studio in my house. Oh yeah, you could build one. I'd be a hard, is it? But I'd be meant like you could like build one on a couple of months wages. Yeah, totally like a professional like a really good one I just feel like what with a foyer in a receptionist Need after enjoying it because men can be receptionist to he's learning It feels so good to be equal Actually, they're a sip one of the receptionist at the radio station I work at, his name is Phil.
Starting point is 01:40:27 There you go. Great guy. Yep. I just, I just, yeah, I can't believe that. Phil. Reception. Yeah, Phil. I know.
Starting point is 01:40:39 That's something. I know. Time named The Simpsons, the 20th century's best television series out of all of them. Wow. Bart was named part of Times 100 Most Influential People of the Century. That's insane. He's the only cartoon character on there. So no Mickey Mouse, no bugs bunny, but Bart Simpson is.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Well that's amazing. 100 Most Influential People of the 20th century. He's not even a real person. Anya ranked Homer. Yeah. Wow. And Lenny, how about that Lenny January 14 2000 the Simpson family were awarded a star on the Hollywood Walker fame
Starting point is 01:41:11 It is one dozens of awards since it debuted as a series including 31 prime time Emmys So can you imagine James O'brook's shelf? It's got five Oscars about we're talking shelves of shell. Oh imagine. Wow. You're reckon It's got five Oscars about... Right, we're talking shelves. The shelves. Oh, imagine. Wow, you're wrecking. Holy moly.
Starting point is 01:41:26 He's got a room for American. Down in the shed. Shuck it in the pile. In the peel room. Now, straight to the pool room. Are you ready to finish off with some fun facts? David. Yes.
Starting point is 01:41:37 I am so ready. There's about... Oh man, maybe 15 of these. He's serious. So many. I really want to watch some more episodes now. Because I keep saying it's gone shit, but I haven't really watched 15 of these. He's serious. So many. I really want to watch some more episodes now, because I keep saying it's gone shit, but I haven't really watched much of it.
Starting point is 01:41:49 I want to see it, I don't like it. Yeah, that's what's happened to me too. It could be bad luck. Maybe we're both just coincidentally seeing the only bad new episodes. All right, here's some fun facts. Here's some fun facts. Springfield was chosen as the town's name.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Is there a 49 Springfields in the USA that graining did not want people to know where it is. There are even more towns called Lincoln, but Matt thought Springfield sounded funny. It's pretty funny. Good call. Mose number, his phone number is one digit longer than a usual US number, so people don't prank call a real phone number.
Starting point is 01:42:21 That's great. In France or France, Hormas Doe is translated as Toe, like T, plus a real age. Toe, and in Spanish, it's ouch. Oh, okay. That's a tip. That's also a source of symptoms when I was in Paris. And yeah, they, um, Marge's voice is done by a man. Wow. It's really manly and gravely.
Starting point is 01:42:44 But still kind't be French. It's still can't be French though. We we. Bobo. Bobo. Bobo. Bobo. In the script, Doe is never written down,
Starting point is 01:42:54 so only ever written as annoyed grunt. So they are forever fair to it. And a 2000, in other words, Doe was added to the Oxford Dictionary. I remember that. 2001, wow. God, my memory's alright. I remember that. Tessna won, wow. God, my memory's all right. I was 11. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:07 I remember things that have happened in my life. That is ridiculous. La-dee-frickendar. Matt Graning provides the sound of Maggie sucking her dummy. Where I say, That's cool. That's him. So it's different reactions.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Really, when different ways there. Homer Simpson is the most downloaded sat-nav GPS voice of her. Really? What have you thought? John Cleese, Spaniga. Oh, John Cleese is good. Oh, I'm Michael Cain. You loved him, Michael Cain.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Take the next left. No, not that left. This left. Oh, that's... Hello, I'm Michael Cain. At the roundabout, continue straight ahead. Yes, Mark, do anything you say? Dave's face looks just good.
Starting point is 01:43:41 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Cook K. At the roundabout, continue straight ahead. Yes Mark, do I have anything to say? David's face looks disgusting. He's ready to go though, looking at him. Yeah, there he is. I'm Mark, okay.
Starting point is 01:43:53 There it is. I knew I'm on the fastest route possible. Mr Wayne. What? Am I Batman? In the film and book Day of the Locust, there is a character called Homer Simpson. The book was published in 1939. What? Am I Batman? Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I can't be reportedly only agreed to do the guest star if Lisa gave up meat forever. Oh, that's a weird request. Yeah, it's a weird request. Yeah, okay. Okay, I'm going to convert everybody by making a cartoon character be vegetarian.
Starting point is 01:44:34 That's a cool episode. I like that one. I reckon that was the first summer heard maybe I'm amazed and I'm a big fan of it. It's a great song, isn't it? I'm not singing in this episode, I'm a big fan of it. She's now. It's a great song isn't it? I'm not singing in this episode, I'm so sorry. The writers had a backup line for Buzz Aldrin's line. Second comes right after first. Very good.
Starting point is 01:44:52 In deep-sotema and home-guess the space, in case he was offended by it, the backup was first to take a soil sample. That's fine. But Aldrin didn't mind the original and they went with it. I reckon the second one is almost. Probably a bit more of this. Yeah, but they're both very funny.
Starting point is 01:45:08 And they've brought the jokes the same both times, so I don't know why I'd be fined. Anyway. Matt graining this one's for you Jess. Mm-hmm. Is left handed. Yes! That's why it's a success. Everything we touch turns to gold!
Starting point is 01:45:20 Oh! The man with the golden left. Name me a single unsuccessful left-handed. You can't. You can't do it. My sister just tweeted it. She's a subtleist in the show and she's got up to the left-handed episode and she tweeted saying, Hey Matt, you mentioned in the episode that you thought I was left-handed?
Starting point is 01:45:41 Yeah, I was. She should believe in herself, man. Oh, that's sweet. I like that she didn't, because if it was my brother, I was. You should believe in yourself, man. Ah, that's sweet. I like that you didn't, because if it was my brother, I'd be like, how the fuck do you not know? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:45:51 That I'm left-handed. So that's nice that she's taken that angle. Yeah, that's a nice angle. Because I would have been like, you dickhead. I'm your sister. There you go. Different sisters, eh? How about them?
Starting point is 01:46:02 Well, sounds like a sitcom. Different sisters. And they're different from each other. Imagine what different sisters would, when they're take on the world would be. Oh, Lordy, probably a bit bloody different. I think it would go a little something like this. Hey, look at that. Is that a plane? I don't think so. And scene. Roll the credits. Different systems recorded in front of the live stream audience. Yeah, they gave fucking nothing. I should know.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Really? It sounded like norm was there. I love shooting on it. In brackets, 500 people were in attendance. The mics were turned up full. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Awww, Mill has found Hooten. Mill has found his middle name is Mussolini. What? Bam! Sorry Dave, what was that? That ever in an episode.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Bam! Bam! A margin appeared on the cover of Playboy, the real Playboy in 2009. And I know that because I bought it because I buy it every week. Perth month? I don't know what's that. You buy it for the book reviews. Book reviews.
Starting point is 01:47:04 The coffee table book review. How else would I know what to put on my coffee table? Exactly. I don't know, it was hell-y. You buy it for the book reviews, I don't eat. Book reviews? The coffee table book review. How else would I know what to put on my coffee table? Exactly. You wouldn't know. My final fun fact about my favorite character, Lionel Hutz. Yes. He claims to have a law degree from Princeton University. A university that does not in fact offer law.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Baaah, very good. Renovale! And that is my simpson report. And I would like to say a big shout out and thank you to Justin McCain for making me finally do that. Thank you so much. I had to. Thank you Justin McCain.
Starting point is 01:47:35 I have. Mysticalically. If you're from Australia. Mysticalically. If not, there's a song about Mysticalically. Look at that. If you want to know more about The Simpsons, I read a great book before starting this report. The Simpsons, Uncensored, Unauthorized History.
Starting point is 01:47:50 A book by John Aute-Ved, it was a good read with a lot of stuff, like obviously couldn't include in here about stuff by the scenes in Riders Room and Conan and Brian and stuff. That was really cool. And also, a cool book of your Simpsons fan is actually by Matt Graning. It's got The Simpsons, the complete guide to your favorite family. And it actually goes through every episode from seasons one to eight. We'd like behind the scenes stuff. Oh cool. So I really enjoyed it. And that was been by Graning. Yeah, so it's written by Matt Graning edited by someone else
Starting point is 01:48:18 yeah, but it's really really cool. So every episode from one day the the goal is. And he goes anyway Sam Sarmons are fucking about somewhere else somewhere else. Yeah well I was getting a lot of right and everything you that you like that joke you didn't laugh at that was Simon everything else I was a man. So it sounds like you were kind of more sympathetic in that partnership to Simon. Well everything I read all people behind the scenes are like he's the man. Right. That's interesting. Yeah. Also I think the Mac ratings gotta be have some, because you also create a Futurama,
Starting point is 01:48:46 and that's amazing. Oh yeah, of course. So he's gotta be great. Oh, Futurama. Yeah, totally. There's crossovers between the two as well. I didn't get as into Futurama. I didn't get into a trailer.
Starting point is 01:48:57 You know what? I didn't play six episodes on a Sunday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. Exactly, so like, why would I give a shit? What am I watching on Saturday morning while I eat breakfast? Simpsons. Good point, very good point.
Starting point is 01:49:07 And then it would be up until 12 and it was like 12, I'm still in my pajamas. Me too, I still be in my pajamas. Yeah, and my parents would be like, what are you fucking doing? Yeah, and you'd be like, no, I can stop my day. I'm just eating fruit loops, I'm watching this.
Starting point is 01:49:16 And then it's like at older, like, and I got out of bed later, you'd still get out of bed late on our Saturday and the Simpsons would still be on anyway,, you know as long as it was the 412. Always there for you. That's a beautiful thing about this. And then you had Fox 8 plus 2 which was 2 hours behind. Oh how good is that? So they missed the first couple.
Starting point is 01:49:34 If you missed the first couple, yeah, if you missed the first couple you could catch up or if you got up really late because you were a little bit older, you were a teenager, maybe you were hung over or you just slept more on weekends. You can watch it in the afternoon. Girl, I brought a time to you. Where are you talking, bro? Wow, weekends you can watch it in the afternoon. Girl, I'm glad it's time to go. What are you talking about? What a time to be in the affluent east. What a time. You should have been there.
Starting point is 01:49:50 What a time to be. You had a channel just for the people who were on delay. So a big thanks to Justin McKenna, everyone that has to me to do this episode. I hope I did not disappoint. There's a lot of information about the sims. So do with it. What do you will? And if you would like us to thank you personally,
Starting point is 01:50:06 you can subscribe to our Patreon as a porters over there, you can get bonus stuff, like bonus episodes that we do once a month, just for the Patreon supporters, and tickets to live shows, all that kind of stuff. And of course, I thank you at the end of the episode, so we'd be like to say thanks to three Patreon supporters right here right now,
Starting point is 01:50:22 and Matt's gonna kick us off with a big thank you. I'd like to thank, this one's interesting interesting because it's just a one name person so I the best people are share prints the queen I get every time this happens you name check share which I like I like how she's you go to I love my girl I love my girl share my girl number Donna not Rihanna no I'm not Rhianna, no more than temporary people. M&M, what's that? Hmm, hmm. Sure. It's gonna be a old winner. Thank you very much. Well, this guy, he's no-none-only is Mark on a real like to think. I'm kind of a shimmer might be Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 01:50:55 I was thinking, Michael Perkins. Oh, your brother. My brother. Good-bye. Big supporter. Your brother from the same mother? Yes, my biological brother. Just trying to confirm. Yeah
Starting point is 01:51:06 Anyway, this guy's got a very sweet singing voice Michael. Oh, yeah, and I want to send this one out to you Michael Thank you Michael Hudson I just figured out his surname because he's a mouth Michael Hudson At something you see that could be his middle name. Oh, Oh, it's not just Michael Hudson. Don't read the whole email. Oh, it's Michael Hudson something something at
Starting point is 01:51:33 something or other dot something. Okay. Sorry. If you would like to contact a Michael Hudson, I'm sure Michael Hudson at something dot com. If you want to thank him as well. Why not? I said he's got a sweet singing voice and then I sang like with my better voice, which was kind of in a lot of ways that was mean. Very patronizing. I was putting him in his place. Yeah, I guess in some ways that was a power play. Yeah, you're a bit like that.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Hey, I would also like to thank a Patreon supporter who, you know what, I was going to try and make a pun. You know I can't do these. How about you just talk about their email? And their email is... That seems to be the cool thing to do. No, I would like to thank Dave Berry. Oh, that is a great name.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Now, we are big fans of Dave's here at Duke Irwin. Oh, they're right for the picking. Much like Berry's. Yeah, that's what I was kind of going for. The Berry picking was gonna make like a Chuck Berry joke. And I was like, you know what? You know who died, this way? He died. Chuck Berry. At I was like, you know what? You know who died this week?
Starting point is 01:52:25 He died. Chuck Berry. At time of recording, he died in the past. Yeah. Nine, 90 flat? 90 is old. And he's what you'd like, Jess? Yeah, bang on 90.
Starting point is 01:52:39 And you know what? For that I thank Chuck. And for his music and contribution too. Do you think Dave? He's gonna his music and contribution to you think Dave He's gonna. Oh, of course. I think Dave. I've already thanked Dave. Dave Means so much to us that you support the show and we love you and Now as a tribute to you, we will all list our favorite berries Mine would be if we're talking ice cream boys and Barry if we're talking boys. Yes
Starting point is 01:53:04 an actual berry strawberry thank you great Dave is that is it true that strawberry is in a real Barry oh it's literally got Barry in the name of it I think I'm gonna go now I'm gonna see through on the outside yes I heard that I reckon I heard that from Dave but it's called a straw Barry I agree I just thought so why did you bring it up? It's a good point. I just tell it just tell Dave his your favorite berry. I think my I'm with you boys and for ice cream. Love it. But I'm gonna say blue. Blue your blue man.
Starting point is 01:53:36 I'm a blue man. David my favorite berry. Yeah. Dave berry. Oh he's good. I genuinely didn't think of that at all. Thank you, Dave. Very good. Oh, and also raspberries. Oh, okay, interesting. Second favorite. Top two. Top three and Chuck. And Chuck, obviously.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Top three. And the old Victorian wicket keeper. Also known as Chuck. Oh, and the Melbourne comedian Daisy Berry. Yes. Who I really like. So you're in the top five now. Very funny.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Yeah, she's great. Okay. And the old business phone, the one now. Yes, she's great. Okay. And the older business phone, the Blackberry. Yes. Dave, would you like to thank someone? Grapes are quite nice. I eat a lot of bananas.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Don't like them that much, but I eat a lot of them. They're easy to eat on the go. Also don't mind a little bit of Brian Ferry, but that's by the by. And the final thank you that I'm putting off because I'm so sorry that I will mispronounce your name. First name, Daniel, surname, Grittorex.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Oh, that is so cool. Daniel Grittorex, thank you so much for your support. And I'm so sorry that it's a spelt great O-Rex. Oh man, that can't, that's too good to be a spelt great O-Rex. Oh man. That's too good to be a real name. It's so good. It's such a great name. And I appreciate your support, Daniel.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Daniel. No, I've just said it wrong. Great O-Rex. Daniel is lying. Daniel, you've got nothing to say to Daniel. Daniel and Canyon. Daniel and Canyon, thank you so much. Let's also say our favorite canyons, mine.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Grant. Grant! Yes! The Canyon walk in front. I'm an other one, the fucking idiots. Mine. And I'm another canyon. Dave Berry, Canyon. Mine's the Canyon Arrow.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Canyon Arrow! Top of long to a long time. 65 tons of American pride, Canyon Arrow. All right, thank you so much to Michael Dave and Danian for supporting us if you want to support the show Which we welcome at all-term times and it's open 24 hours a day the bank of patreon do go on do go on We don't just we don't close on Sundays. We're not fucking scumbags Like the banks sticking it to the man at the end here my like Matt groaning in the 1970s before we sold out became a half billion air when you put it like that
Starting point is 01:55:51 not that impressive at all something halfway to a billion oh would you not accept half a billion dollars give me the whole thing or nothing at all you're an all-enough man totally is but getting contact with us all the links in the description of this episode down below here But you can at do go on podcast for Facebook Twitter and Instagram. You can do go on pottergemail.com We read you if we read you correspondence. We read them. Alright team. Thanks so much and Till next week, I will say goodbye Bye
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