Two In The Think Tank - 76 - The Kray Twins

Episode Date: April 5, 2017

Our first ever LIVE EPISODE! Recorded at the Imperial Hotel as part of the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Bop had the big task of delivering the first ever live report AND dealing with our first ever time limit! What a task! We talked about The Kray Twins - the scariest British mobsters of the '60s! Jess' life was made complete when the audience said her catchphrase, Dave broke Jess with his facial expressions and Matt ended up sitting in the audience and leading a revolution.  Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey everybody, Jess and Dave, just jumping in really quickly at the top here to make sure that you are across all the details for our upcoming Christmas show. That's right, we are doing a live show in Melbourne Saturday December the 2nd, 2023, our final podcast of the year, our Christmas special. It's downstairs at Morris House, which usually be called the European beer cafe. On Saturday December the 2nd, 2023 at 4.30pm, come along, come one, come all, and get tickets at dogoonpod.com. This holiday season give the gift of glow

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We had such a good time hanging out with some of the listeners and getting to do this live in front of people was super strange but just the absolute best. So what we've got for you is a really fun report. I hope you enjoy it. You'll be able to hear other people other than the three of us which is bloody treat. So enough rambling for me without further ado, I will now throw to the first ever live do-go-on Right here at the E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. That's right. Well, I'm about to sit on stage with that two of the best So we have one of the best beards in the business. It is mr. Matt Schuumles' gentleman Wow What a pleasure to be here Hey, how are you going? From Ballarat. Yes, all right. Not now. For everyone else

It looked like Matt had just identified a man with the red bead in the crowd He said, hey Nice When that is what happened as well. Yes, I'm sorry identified a man with the red bead and the crowd said hey nice that is what happened as well yes I'm also on stage with the best laugh in the biz for sure it's just poke as I said gentlemen hello everyone thank you so much for being is this so cool oh my goodness we are very excited that you actually turned up yeah and that your people real real normally you're just numbers to us.

And now you're just cash to us. So we're all good ones. You're dogs. Hey, quick, quick, Randra Paws, who's listened to the podcast before? Woo! All right. Is anybody, and there's no shame in this,

is anybody being dragged along by a friend and you have no idea where you are? Do you? Okay? Welcome. Welcome. They put their hands up instead of clapping. Which is very polite. Obviously you never heard the show before, we're very clapped centri- from the show. But we'll get there, no thank you, that's a good clap.

Welcome, welcome, this is a safe place. Yeah, this is very exciting. Do you want to explain to her what this is a bit? I think Dave will do that. Oh god. Dave. Well, if you haven't heard the show, or seen the show, or clapped along with the show at home, this is a show where one of us does a report on a topic

that the other two have no idea what they are going to talk about. And for our first ever live show, we've handed over the reins to one Jessica Ferkens. You idiots. To a report on a topic that Matt and I genuinely have no idea what you're about to talk about. That's right. Yeah. What an exciting time in my life. It's also dangerous, I think, because usually if it's a safe, for example, an offensive or racist topic, we could just hit delete when we go into the studio.

But now we have to- You can so often do a fence that racists talk about. What you will not know is that we've released 75 of 600 episodes recorded so far. Oh, boy, do we have some opinions? Oh, God. I don't know if you know, this is about Dave, but he has a certain sympathy.

That is not true. That is not true. That we know. Hey, I also want to point out that some of you may have noticed that Matt has got a beer in his hand Which is to character Oh, all right I mean I'm also holding a side of it. You know, it's What I'm most worried about tonight is apart from talking over you and not being able to edit it out to make me not seem like a bad feminist

Also, I'm worried about the fact that we normally don't have any time restraints at all and we've started to roll out over two hour episodes. Today we've got to give it to a very tight... I'm very sorry. ...and very sorry. It's a long time. Yeah, you have. We recently got a Facebook message and just said, guys, I love the show, but learnt how fucking hit it. It's the worst part that we ever leave. We ended up at about 20 minutes.

Oh, it's terrible. We're just good mates. We have a chat. No, but today we will keep it, well we have to keep it to time, or Eleanor kick us out of here anyway, so that's good I guess. It's nice to have a mother figure to discipline us. Yeah, but we don't want to get to the half way through the episode and you guys not know what happens.

I mean, we have to go into some sort of alleyway out in Melbourne. You gather around and we say, and the end of the story was. No one knows, it's a mystery, it's a mystery answer. I could happen, I could. And then we get beaten up. Not another mystery. Yeah, okay, so what is my turn? Do you want me to just get stuck in because we are under time constraints?

Did you write a question? Oh, the bandit has been strong. Yeah. Did I write a question? Did you write a question? Matthew, do you know me at all? Well, to the lady that hasn't, no idea what's going on. Oh, yeah, okay.

We normally start the show with a question, and then that's somehow, that I don't know who's listening at home, because I already know the topic. But, what you doing? And you don't know that. Yeah. I spoke to, well, listener Rowan Danstairs, who's one of our Patreon supporters, and he told me that this is the first time that he'll be hearing the episode and also not knowing what the topic is. So this 10 minutes at the start is actually not annoying for us. So that's good.

For once. Because it's almost get on with that. We know. We live these lives. We'll learn to edit and you'll learn to hit the skid. That's what we'll all do. So Jess, I'll go to you for your question to get us on topic. My question that I am writing in my head as I speak right now and if we can't get it then you guys can help us out. Jump in, this is exciting. But let Matt have a terrible go first. It's a music. It's going to be very distracting as well because like we are

stand-up comedians so it's kind of like having an audience I just feel I'm always like, I've got a report to do so none of that you guys. Okay. There will be no comedy on this show. You didn't come in for the laughs. Okay, my question, boys and audience, is who are the coolest British mobsters of the 60s? The coolest British... Is it... I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. The coolest... Oh God. British mobsters of the 60s. The coolest British... Cool. I panicked.

What are you basing coolness on? I mean, just being ready. Is it the Beatles? Because they stole everyone's hearts? No. We've done them. Oh, yeah, of course. We actually did.

I've never heard of these these particular people Are they related to each other? Yes John yes, all yes, yes What was a peak best You nerd Twist there. Okay. Yeah. What do you think? I think that there was we're gonna be any comedy and then you come up with that. Thank you so much. What are you thinking? Matt, do you...

It's not the Von Traps, but it's something like that. It's the Von Traps Twins. It is the something twins. The crap twins? No, but get rid of the last letter. The crap twins. Crap twins. Crap twins. Crap twins. The Crap twins. Anybody heard of the Crap twins?

A couple of hands, right? Let's throw it over the audience. Hang on, I heard it, yo, was that mum? Is that you mum? Have you heard of them? Yeah. Ah, cool. That's my mum. Anyway, so they go, the Crap twins, a few people have heard of them, a few people have heard of them, a few people have

heard of them. I have had a round of applause, you have heard of the cray twins. I have had a round of applause if you are one of the cray twins. Oh! We've got both in to another one. This is good. They could fill in any gaps of which they'll be many. Okay.

So I'm not actually O-Fay with the cray. I'm in my room. Oh, I know. Did you think of that as soon as we said cray? No, that just came out of me. I am a bad man. That just came out of me. A lot of stuff comes out of me, and that

is one of the things I'm less proud of that comes out of me. O-Fay with cray. Anyway, OK, I will start us off. So Ronnie and Reggie Cray, also great names. There's a lot of good nicknames through this one, by Kray. Anyway, okay, I will start us off. So, Ronnie and Reggie Kray, also great names. There's a lot of good nicknames through this one, by the way. Oh my god, the best. Anyway, Ronnie and Reggie Kray, they'll born on the 24th of October 1933. Oh, that is just made my fucking life. Yes, yes. I've done. What a shame. Oh, chances like this stuff. Yes, yes, I've done

Just like this Well, I'll say go here She often does that back in the studio That is the best thing that's ever happened. I can't believe you Don't encourage me. Don't read a hit. This is a great story guys. You got to love this for anybody for the lovely listeners who Of people here today who haven't heard before, that's my catchphrase. It's probably one of the coolest catchphrases that's ever existed. A good year. It sounds like if someone from Antique's Roadshow

valuing some wine. Oh, a good year, though. Oh, a good year, a good year. That's how I mean it also. Okay, so they'll be on the 24th of October, 1933, to Charles David Kray, who is a scrap gold dealer. So that he sounds fun already. Did you go through a bin seeking for gold? What if someone's thrown out their gold?

That's a very unlikely. Where else are you going to find it? So they were identical twins. Reggie was 10 minutes older than Ronnie. I bet he always had always had a room. I bet. They didn't really seem to have the easiest of childhoods. When the twins were three years old, they contracted a diptheria. It's just really hard to say. Ah, a good disease.

If you're going to get any, that's a good one. That's a mass-pass, right? A good disease. And also Ronnie almost died when they were nine years old. From a head injury he suffered in a fight with his brother Sounds like my childhood But you had Dithiri and then you got back by your brother. Yeah, like your dad was diving for gold in a bin Gold scrap what the fuck is that

Gold scrap do anyway, I don't know At the beginning of the Second World War, their father Charles, who was 32 at the time, was conscripted into the army, but he refused to go and then into hiding. Because there ain't no gold in the trenches. He's looked. He's like, nah, I'm good. Now their grandfather, his name was Jimmy Cannonball Lee. Nicknamed Cannonball. Oh fuck yeah. Yeah. That's real good. First of many good nicknames for this one. Cannonball lead, he encourages them to take up amateur boxing and sibling rather really spurred them on and both achieved some success in their boxing careers.

So what their grandfather's done is he's seen one of the twins bash the other twins and said, I know what you need to do. You need to learn to punch professionally. Yeah, you need to improve your technique. That's not a good cannonball who can't film. They said to have never lost a match before they turned professional at age 19. So they were good little boxes. Have they ever done a match then? No, but you know it's like... Because I also have never lost a boxing match.

Matt, have you? Ah, yeah, yeah. Just been in the one and was not good. Good to know. Look at my face. Oh. Oh. Oh.

That was a real moment early. Hey. Hey. That's fine. All right. I'm going to go on. All right. Please do.

Go on. Now, the Crate Wins win notorious for their gang that they formed and for its violence and they narrowly avoided being sent to prison many times. Conscription was quite normal back in the day in that time and they were called up to serve with the Royal Faciliers. Is that right? Usually. Thank you.

Usually it is. That's what I see. Major fact check up the back there. We appreciate that. We'll be charming in with all the military history of this episode. So they were called up to serve with their service. In 1952, they reported, so they turned up. But they attempted to leave after a couple of minutes.

So they're slightly better than their dad. Yeah, they at least turned up. So the corporal in than their dad. Yeah, they've at least turned up. So the corporal in charge tried to stop them, but Ronnie punched him on the chin, leaving him seriously injured, and they walked home. They just went home. And then they were arrested the next morning and turned over to the army.

So they were in the army at some point. But they didn't really want to be there, which is interesting. Now, while in the army, but technically absent without leave, they assaulted a police constable who tried to arrest them one night. These are nice boys. This is a fun fact. They were among the last prisoners held at the Tower of London before they were transferred to the Shepton Military Prison.

Is that true? Yes. You're on the first one. I was in the military? Yes. No, you're on the first one. Malitary. Yeah. Yeah. Military. Their behavior in prison was so bad

that they both received dishonorable discharges from the army. They tried to dominate the exercise area, outside their one-man cells. They were only imprisoned for a few weeks, and they're like, now we own this place. I like them. Just always sides with the more violent characters in the show. I like a bad boy.

They threw tantrums, they emptied their literary buckets over a sergeant, they dumped a container full of hot tea on another guard, they handcuffed a guard to their prison bars with a pair of stolen cups, and they set fire to their bedding. Would you rather have poo put on you, hot tea or would you rather be settled fire? I mean, what a question Dave. Matt? Can't we have all the right time? So they will move to a communal cell where they assaulted their guard with a China vase. Hang on, so they're in solitary confinement, they're fucked up, so then they're put out of solitary confinement. Yeah, they're put with other bad people.

It's wrong with this prison. Man, that'll be out of the wheel teacher. I'm an expert as they're going to have learnt their lesson. And I think there's a real twist coming here, where they start to, you know, just teach kids good stuff, mainly, and how to be nice. They go into, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a little bit of... It's a little bit of... Full of Anthropy on the side. The Anthropy.

I've heard this one before, but go on anyway. It's a good, it's a good... It's a good, it's a good... It's a good, it's a good... It's a good, it's a good... It's a good, it's a good... It's a good, it's a good... So they assaulted a garden, they escaped, and they were quickly recaptured and awaited

to transfer to civilian authority for crimes committed while at large, and they escaped and they were quickly recaptured and awaited to transfer to civilian authority for crimes committed while at large and they spent their last night drinking cider, eating crisps and smoking cigarettes, courtesy of the young national servicemen acting as their guards. So just hang it out. Just hang it out a couple of rados. SIGARILLO. I've never heard cigarettes that are so wrong.

You were very close. SICKER RILLOWS. You're a maniac. As we know, I mean we know that well. Yeah, we know that well. You do worry sometimes. Are you talking to me when you say you do worry? No, I don't worry at all.

I'm not really not that sure. Look, I've been zoning in and out so far. I'm just trying to hold on to what this story is about. Two guys, alright, this is what I've heard that sure. Look, I've been zoning in and out so far. I'm just trying to hold on to what this story is about. Two guys, alright. This is what I've heard so about. Two guys, having a bit of a tough time, but you know, things are looking good now, right? That way we're at. Did you hear it, like, one minute over the past ten? Yes. This happens a lot for some people.

Yeah, he zones out a lot, but that's okay. We zone out on here as well, so it's fine. I've got a very relaxing voice. Very soothing. It's like meditation. Then we move on to their criminal careers. Because their criminal records and their dishonorable discharge from the army sort of ended their boxing careers.

Oh, now that's just the saddest thing ever, that's so far. They're like, oh, we just want to... What? They were promising. They were promising. I mean, they were unbeaten. I mean, they never fought, but they were unbeaten. So they never got to fight? No, well, because they were bird boys,

they didn't, the boxing community were like, no, thank you. Only nice boys for us. And so the brothers turned to crime full time. You know, they were like, let's settle down and commit to crime. So they bought a rundown Snooker Club in Bethnall Green where they started, oh, shut up! I thought they were just a band. We're having fun too! We're learning nerds. We're learning nerds. Who would ever talk about wrestling? Oh, we did. Three weeks ago.

For two hours. For two hours. We started. I was starting to plug their podcast at the end of that episode and then Jess I think was like, you know, they clash with us? And, uh, anyway, we could sound like I probably brought in a crowd for them. Yeah, that's right. They were on the full.

Because we were on the full. We were on the full. We were on the full. We were on the full. We were on the full. We were on the full. We were on the full. We were on the full. and Jess I think was like, you know they clash with us? And anyway, look it sounds like I probably brought in a crowd for them. Yeah that's right. They were on the full because of our cloak. They were welcome. Let's meet him in an alleyway after they come up.

Is everyone in here? No one in here is like fuck we're in the wrong room. Right. They're like yeah but when are they gonna talk about wrestling? I'm getting to it. Is he credible on backstory? They've created for a new wrestler called The Great Winds. That's not wrestling. I'm getting to it. This incredible long backstory. They've created for a new wrestler called The Great Winds. And it's one-tooth.

With split personalities, but they're both just a thug. The first one-man tag team champion. That would be awesome. Okay, so The Great Winds who are two people, they bought a Snooker club, and they started several protection rackets, right? So like, you give us a couple bucks, we'll sit, oh, I can't do accents.

Now, we have a go. You want Matt to do it? A grade, Matt? LAUGHTER Come on. What's, what's, give me my line? So, you know, like, you give us money and we'll, we'll protect you. Oh, oh, hey, good, good, good, give me a couple of dollars, the, oh, pounds, and we'll,

we'll look after you, quick smile, right, yo? Cup of tea. Good, good, good of tea. Oh, ha. But... Pretty good, pretty. Well, you know what I did with T just recently. Cup of tea on your fucking face. Oh, yeah. Cup of tea on your fucking face. Put that on a tissue. We swearing, today I can't remember.

Too late. Any kids in? Too late. OK, so. Well, I am at the Melbourne International Preschool. I'm so sorry. So he's told this very confused. Okay so they've got their protection ring and by the end of the 1950s the cray were the craze were involved in hijacking armed robbery and arson through which they acquired

other clubs and properties. They're way around which is great. I think that's savvy business. That's terrible. In 1960, Ronnie Kray was imprisoned for 18 months for running a protection racket and related threats. While Ronnie was in prison, a guy called Peter Ratchman, head of a violent land lord operation. You know those violent landlords? I just complained to mind about it my key went open the front door

No more are they gonna pour a latrine bucket on my head? I'm so sorry. I don't need to get inside after all That comes around All right Probably a K-dare do you all right? Well, we got two options one of them. Oh of them involves this train bucket. What's option two? Option two, I'll just let you in. No worries at all. What do you choose? Choose wisely.

I might already chose one before it too. All right, here's the bucket. Have a good one. He's a cake. Good on you. Have a nice day. So now you've dumped the bucket on him and given him a cake. I'm very confused. Look, it was a weird act, have a nice day. So now you've dumped the bucket on him and given him a cane. I'm very confused. Look, it was a weird act, I bet I enjoyed it. That would have been edited out if we did that. If we could.

Man, I do some act else to get edited out. I put the notes off for like six minutes, talking to himself. I go mad, I get out of the jar, I come back. He's still talking like a cockney. He doesn't realise we've gone. In 1960, Ronnie Cray, oh no I already said that, no mind, I would have ended that out. So Peter Ratchman, who is the violent landlord, he gave Reggie a nightclub called Esmeraldas Barn on the night's bridge end of the Wilton Place next to a bistro called Jones Kitchen.

Now that is a fun sentence to say in that accent. And I'll try. Um... He's gone and given Reggie a nightclub called Esmeralda's Band Down on Night Spridge. Oh fuck you! It's down on the night's bridge end of Wilton Place. Place. My character also has a speech impediment. It's real, it's very endearing.

Esmeralda's barn is the most English sounding nightclub ever. It's barn. Is it barn? Yeah, I think to follow that up with. Is it not like a barn themed? Like I mean what I just said makes no sense at all. Barn? Oh, it's so English.

It's a maraud. It's a marauder. The most English name I've ever heard. What am I talking about? I think I might sit the rest the episode out. No, no. No, no, you stay here. And you just zone in and out as you do.

So him getting this new nightclub, so he increased their influence in the West End by making them celebrities as well as criminals. You really can have it all! Imagine how our celebrities these days were, people that owned a nightclubs. Well, I mean, there's famous mobsters. Shane Warnoan's bar 23, Crancasino. Bar 20, C, 20. There you go. And it is, it is bar themed.

And also a whony themed. So it's a past date of all the best things that I've ever been about, England. You know, English bars. I'm looking at a mat like you did this. You did this. You did this to us. Okay, so in the 60s they were widely seen as prosperous and charming celebrity nightclub owners and were part of the swinging London scene.

I thought swinging London scene, I thought clicking on that link was going to take me to like, here's what a swinger is, but no, it's just like it was art and culture and other bullshit, so. Do you need us to tell you what a swinger is, but no, it's just like it was art and culture and other bullshit, so. Do you need us to tell you what a swinger it is? Yes! No, um... Well, I want a money in the day. No, I want to tell you very much. Well, they also love everyone else. They're a match.

They have a party. On the keys in the ball. In a barn. They're the keys in a barn. You throw your keys in a barn. With a key in a barn. Then you feel around, try and find the keys. And then you go home. And you call your weird land.

OK, so a large part of their fame was due to their non-criminal activities, which is good, as popular figures on the celebrity circuit. They were photographed by famous photographer David Bailey on more than one occasion. So it's like more than once means your fancy. They socialise with lords, MPs, socialites, and show business characters including actor Judy Garland and singer Frank Sinatra. Ever heard of him? Love Frank. They were mates with Frank, which is kind of cool.

He was a bad boy of crooning as well though, Frank. I think maybe the baddest boy of crooning. Interesting. Name a bad boy of crooning. You can't. Yeah, look now I can. Boobler, right, yeah, fair enough. He's a bad boy.

The boobs. Frank is top two. Frank's the top two bad boy of crooning. Anyway, this is a quote from Ronnie Craigh from his autobiography called My Story. Absolutely shocking. Absolutely shocking. Should have been called My Craigh Life.

Or My Life dot dot dot. It was, or it's so crazy. My life, it's so great. My story. My story. Yeah, look, they weren't creatives. Anyway, so this is a quote. Creatives. Creatives.

My watch story. This is a quote from Ronnie. He said, they were the best years of L. Actually Matt, do you want to read it in the accent? Not really. Yeah, okay, cool. Read this bit. Read that bit there. Not wearing my glasses.

Come on dad. What the. They were the best years of L. Oh, read this bit, read that bit there. Not wearing my glasses. Come on dad. What the, they were the best years of their lives. They called him the swing in the sixties. The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, were rulers of pop music. My favourite bit is that Dave is melting along. I'm making joy to say the wrong thing about his glasses. Can't it be straight rule to fashion world?

And made me prefer rule one, then. Well you were fucking untouchable. Oh yeah, I felt tough. Yeah, you look... Anyone want to take me on now? Cause you're like, like you did earlier for some reason. Yeah, beat on beat. Action.

Cause going on. Is it on beard? Action. It's going on. Is that your biography? Be it on beard action. Be it on beard action. Yeah. Come up with a better one. I like that you think you said it tough after you had, we were fucking untouched, you know.

Oh, tough guy. Is that even English? I don't know. I'm not sure anymore. Okay, so the guy... What I was doing there was the guy from that coffee out in the 90s, which you guys are too young to remember. He was referencing something from the 1890s. He's here, we pull out of here. Tell us the story, Dad. Oh, yeah, I can point. Now go on. No, no, no, you go on.

Oh, we wanted that. Is anyone remember that? I had to, there was a guy in the supermarket guys. And he said, oh, he's so exotic. Yeah. And she thinks he's from somewhere else, right? And then, hey, so she's expecting him to have a different accent. And he goes, oh, Swamp-Chee, how wonderful. Worth telling.

Thank you. And. Oh, yeah. You're out of a blow. Matt just quoted an obscure ad and got a round of applause. I'm telling, thank you. And, I'm not a bloat! Matt just quoted an obscure ad I got around a bloat. This is the best. It is. If you were alive then, you would have loved it.

And Norega knew it would have been, you would have been applauding yourself, to be honest. All right. Just like they did moments ago. Okay. The science earring now was nothing on it. It's respect. It's respectful science.

And then thinking, how the fuck up? And I shall. The craze also came into the public attention in July of 1964. Oh, great. If I hold long enough, some models say it. 1964, with an ex-pose, I love that word so much. In the tabloid newspaper Sunday Mirror, insinuating that Ronnie had a sexual relationship with Lord Boothi, who was a conservative politician. You're loving it Boothi?

It's pretty good. It sounds pretty good. I am Lord Boothi. I'm not taking that guy seriously at all. So apparently, like they've insinuated that they had had a sexual relationship at the time when male homosexuality was still a criminal offence in the UK.

Male homosexuality. Yeah, that's what I noticed when I read, and I was like female homosexuality, totally fun. I know. Okay, male homosexuality. Not okay at the time. I'm just avoiding that. Probably.

I don't know, I don't want to say the wrong thing here. So, Matt was looking at me like, huh? Is that right? Is that right? And I'm like, I'm not an expert in criminal law from the 1960s. You said you left it alone, but you talked more about it than anyone else. Now, the thing about the 1960s.

So there was this expose. Although no names were printed in the piece, the twins threatened the journalist involved, and who's being? no names were printed in the piece, the twins threatened the journalist involved and couldn't be. No names were printed in the piece. No, but they said. A man and a man had a relationship. Yeah. Alright, I think I know who they're talking about.

They're talking about me and I'm going to fucking kill them. But mate, you could have probably just left this one alone and no one would have even looked at you. This is crazy. It's crazy. This is crazy. It's crazy. Your face. A charming face.

The way I don't really like it that much, because normally we'd be sitting more like this. So do you mind if we do it like this? Is that okay with you guys? Is that all right? Is that all right? I don't do that much face work. Let me know if this is troubling in any way, but it makes me feel more comfortable. I feel so weird up there. No good. Alright.

You alright with this? He looks like a foreigner. So, he saves the real showman and he follows like show rules. He's got the big showy voice and that sort of... What the show... I follow the show rule that you shouldn't host the show from the audience. Oh, we go back to the audience. Yeah, very old school.

This is a little... This is a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little...

It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little...

It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... Forgive me, I don't know your name. How do you- You don't know your name, either, Karen. But what happened was, he was being watched the show for half an hour. I haven't taken a photo. Matt sat with his back to the man. He pulls out a camera and takes a photo.

Like this has been the highlight of the show. Matt's back and he's hit. Well, I feel like the front of my head should be offended by that. You've got to go back ahead. It's not. I'm unaware enough to take that as a compliment. You can't figure it out. Yeah, and I've got another beer. I'm almost dying. I don't have another beer with me.

I've got a bit of a beer at home. Matt has decided to leave the stage, sit in the crowd and face Jess and I. Generally, if this is no good, let me know. Put your pants up. I don't know where the smallest pants I own. These are Dave Warnocky's size, and I've squeezed into them. It's great that we're doing this on the one episode we have time constraints. Yeah, great.

Please do go on. Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, there we go. Now, I'm getting the worst view in. This is awful. Leave it, he's coming. That's groin is facing. It's looking at me.

There were no names printed, but I know who he's looking at. I know. I know. Oh, fuck you kill him! Sorry, sorry, sorry, but I'm a little touchy on that subject. The 1960s was a horrible time. Now we just have to wait. I thought I got it! I can't be right! Okay, no, I'm fine. Alright, we don't have a lot of time. Okay, what was I up to? Boothbeap.

Yeah, Boothbeap. Ollie, she that was minutes ago. You did this. Okay, so no names were printed but the twins were very upset. weren't they James? oh it's so good! I don't even know what Jess is laughing at! it hurts! okay right so the twins threatened to uh to beat up the journalist and

both be threatened to sue the newspaper. And because of this, the newspaper backed down. They sacked their editor. They printed an apology and they paid Boothby 40,000 pounds in an out-of-court settlement. Wow, there's a lot of money. Which is quite a lot of influence for these scary twins to have, if you think about it, that's kind of weird. And because of this, other newspapers said they were unwilling to expose the craze connections in criminal activity, so they were kind of safe in the media now. Oh, they're a bit sneaky.

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So it's the other thing that kind of makes them safe. Like nobody will speak out against them. Genius. Should we be, like I don't want to guess the ending, should we be worried that we're talking about them in a public forum? No, they did. So now I just want to talk about a few of their crimes and ordeals if I may. A few good crimes. A few good crimes.

A few good crimes. Ronnie Cray, shot and killed George Cornell, who was an associate of the Richardson's, which was a rival gang, less cool name than like the Cray boys. That wasn't their gang name, but it should have been. What was their gang name? Oh, they don't have a gang name. The Cray's.

The barn boys. Probably the barn boys. That's a game there. They're the... craze. The barn boys. Probably the barn boys. That's a great home. It's not you... Tsk at that. LAUGHTER The barn boys. So about that, Dave.

It's sort of Tsk there. Yeah. That was good. Nobody could see you Tskin. No, that's a thing. I was Tskin' real hard. You were Tskin'. So he shot and killed George Cornell at the Blind Bigger Pub, great Pub name,

in Whitechapel on the 9th of March in 1966, a good year, I'll get to it. Blind, blind beggar pub. That is the most English satin. No. Took me sick to get that. I was like, oh, it's a reference from before. It was very witty.

You're very fun. And also in Whitechapel, Jack the it's a reference room before. It was very witty. You're very funny. And also, a white chapel. Jack the Ripper, anybody? Yeah. Would anyone like Jack the Ripper? Take a request. We're selling abdomen capes. No, bell capes.

No. abdomen. We'll be signing our bell capes after the show. You can B-Y-O, or if we can supply you with one, at a price to you. I don't want to explain to the people who've never heard what why I've never talked about making cakes out of people's bells. Can you eye the woman who hasn't seen this before?

She's shaking her head. She's shaking her head. She's like she's leaving, Matt. She's leaving. I'm out. Was it okay? Was that the line? That was the one. That was the one. That was the one.alkaic? Was that the line? No, that was the straw.

That was the line. That was the line. It's good to know where the line is. You don't know. Balkaic. We weren't talking about it. She just went straight up my hood. Balkaic, straight over your head.

That was a terrible seat to have. That's not how you put them on. That's how it is. Balkaic, that's exactly where they go. Straight over your head. It's where the brand new neck. over your neck. It's a Randy Knick. Randy Knick. Can we?

Sorry. Please do. Hey, just please. Do go on. Thank you so much. So George Cornell killed Blind Beg a pub in Whitechapel 1966, a good year. The day before, there had been a shootout at Mr. Smiths, which was a nightclub, and that had involved the rival gang, right?

So the two gangs that had- The Richie Riches. The Richie Riches. The Richardson gang. That's much better than the Riches. Oh, I agree wholeheartedly, but I can't change history. Oh, listen to some of our previews, and so I think we can.

Good point. Good point. And at the shoot out the night before, an associate of the craze, so one of their gang members, Richard Hart, he was shot and killed. So a lot of people thought that this, that Ronnie killing George Cornell was like a revenge, right? I've just skipped ahead of myself,

which is probably smart. So for modern people, they shot Biggie so we shot two-pack. Am I right? Wait, your modern reference is about 30 years old. So before he was born? Yeah, so that was about 1994. Okay, yeah, great. Right, when you were in the peak of your age.

If you're trying to get an alibi for me, where I was the night the biggie was gunned down. Yeah. Like a group. I genuinely probably would have been. I think I could have been a weekend, you could have been at home. You could have been doing any number of things. You were four, you were a bright kid. You're not bright enough to kill a man. Well, it's bright.

Perhaps two brights to kill a man. Wait, it's not bright. Perhaps two brights to kill a man. It just makes you think, doesn't it, really? Who does? You have, oh, okay. That is confusing. Jess. Yep. Can you maybe take Dave's mic off him and do go on.

If you were still on the stage, you'd be able to do that, wouldn't you? Yeah, it's too late for that. Too late for that. I made my bed and chair, and I will sit in it. Okay. So, this is kind of a cool, I guess it's cool. I don't know, I'm a little bit sick, but I think this is kind of cool. So, the public shootout led to the arrest of nearly all of the Richardson gang, the Richie Riches.

They all got arrested. I'm so glad you calling them the Richie Riches. Yeah, so this is a shootout like the night before, right? So Cornell, by chance, he wasn't there, he wasn't at the club during the big shootout, and he wasn't arrested. And so he was visiting the hospital to check up on his friends, and while he was sort of visiting, and as he left, he chose to go to the blind beggar pub, which was only a mile away from where the craze lived. And Ronnie was drinking in another pub when he learnt that George Cornell was at the blind beggar,

and so he rushed over there to confront him. Apparently he walked into the bar, walked straight up to Cornell and shot him in the head in public view. Somebody else was, who was there as well, was a bit confused. They fired other shots into the air as it was like, you see a guy with a big confusion. You see your man's head get blown off. I know my reaction. It's a natural thing.

Save the day again. Yeah, so that was a little bit. Oh, I think it was warning the public not to report what had happened to the police. All of you keep your mouth shut. Right, but he did that in Moscow with his gun. Apparently just before he was shot Cornel remarked, well, look who's here. Which is also two packs last words. Oh. What was that?

Whoa! Was that a true date? That is absolutely untrue. But do we have proof that it's not true? Exactly. So it could be. I wasn't there that night. Or was it?

It's not true. Exactly. So it could be. I wasn't there that night. Or was it? No. Well, look who's here. A foyer old boy from Melbourne Australia. Oh, shit. Not again. Little Davy Warden again. No, he's not firing into the air as he died. He was confused. Yeah. He really makes you think that's the thing. No. Another one of their crimes. So this is on the 12th of December in 66.

A good year. You're doing it to yourself now. Because I don't want to pause for ages and then they'll get bored of it. Do you guys want to do it? No. Oh, yeah, sorry Okay, no fair enough. I know that you're sitting in the audience, mate. I feel like I'm there I'm the number one audience audience union now We've you you know us and we'll fight you motherfuckers the big end of town am I right? whoo

whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo

whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo

whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo Well, yeah, that's the point. You don't know. We know. You've held us under your bloody big, the Nazi boots for too long. It's the biggest thing about him. This is very untrue. And I will sue you. I will sue you and you will pay me 40,000 pounds for what you said. I will fucking kill you.

I'll fucking kill the love you! LAUGHTER It just keeps giving! Oh, it's so good! It's fun to do it really. It's fun to threaten a room full of people that are paid to be here. It's great. Room full of people who are lovely and supportive. Thank you so much.

Have we mentioned them a really thankful of you guys being here? No, I mean us. I'm one of you now. Are you shouting the whole gang drinks like that? I mean, you've extrapolated a little bit. I mean, you're the union rep, and I think that's what union rep stuves, so I guess you probably will be. This is...

With the union rep, just buy everyone a round of beers. Well, that's them safe for the year. That is classic affluent East Jess Perkins. That's not understand how the working man and my struggle, our struggles. Bevel a revolution! He's turned everyone against him, but I have no idea what we did. Well, privilege is what you did, yeah. Okay, bad feminist, that's great.

May I go on? Yes, please. Thank you. So, 12th December, the craze helped Frank Mitchell, the mad Axman, fuck it, great, me mad. Fuck Bob. Do you have to be called the Mad Axeman? Yes, please.

Or just the Maxman. You know I like portmanteus. Anyway. Portmanteau of what? Max and Ax. Mad and Axeman. Oh, sorry. Maxman.

Miss the word man then. Mad. Mad. The mad Axeman. So that's... He's called a man, Max. Max. They helped this guy with Frank Mitchell, the Mad Axeman. So they- It's equal to Mad Max. Max. They helped this guy Frank Mitchell, the mad Axeman, to escape from prison.

Ronnie had befriended Frank while they served time together in a different prison. And Frank felt that the authorities should review his case for parole, as so many prisoners do. And so Ronnie thought that he would be doing him a favor by getting him out of prison Which would then highlight his case in the media and force the authorities to look into his parole review Which makes a lot of sense what so he's hoping by getting out you will be paroled Yeah, if you break out of prison, they're not gonna take you more seriously, you know Look I'm already out anyways

Just rather stamp more seriously, you know? Look, I'm already out anyways. Just Protestant. See? Yeah. Have you the paperwork? So that was their thinking. That's a terrible plan, what happened? I agree. Well, once Frank was out of prison, the craze held him in a friend's flat, just to, you know, give him a roof over his head. But he was a large man with a mental disorder, it says, and he was difficult to control. Eventually, he disappeared. I really hope that's the end of him. He disappeared. Where'd he go? Not sure. No more questions, please.

So the craze, they were acquitted of his murder. Like, well, I mean, I don't think they've ever found a body. So when you say, he disappeared, you're thinking that he disappeared. He disappeared. Brick of death. I think they've found a body, but... So when you say, Disappear, you're thinking that he... Disappear. He just appeared. Don't bring a damn. He just appeared.

He just appeared. Disappear. Disappear. Uh, he'd major, is that a rank? In the military. In the military. At the Royal Fnir. So they broke a guy at a prison decided they didn't like living with him so they took care of him.

No, he just... he just... I want to see you. They took care of him. You know I just think you could see your face because you are so fucking smug with that one. That's nice. That is not true. That is a poor reenactment. No proof.

Less beard. What? So a friend of theirs, Freddie Foreman, another great name. Oh, that is really good. Good name. Freddie Foreman. He claimed in his autobiography, his autobiography was called Respect, which should have been a Wrath of Franklin's, but Freddie Foreman got their first. What also the title of two packs autobiography. I don't think you wrote one, he died very young. So Freddie Foreman said that he shot Frank as a favorite of the twins and disposed of his body at sea but nobody like there's no proof of that. He could have just been like yeah I'm a pretty cool dude. Right and when he published that. He's like he'll people. He worried that he'd be charged with murder. I think

I think it was really just all about selling books, mate. Oh great, so I can just claim that I killed lots of people. Expect no repercussions except millions of dollars. Correct. Oh, that sounds great. This is great. This is great. We'll do that.

That's what we've been doing wrong on this podcast. It's not admitting to crimes. Have we not? You have. Oh boy you have. Okay so we I'll keep moving on because we you know we like to ramble but we do have time constraints. So the everyone finish us please. Yeah this is on you. Keep it down. I have been silent. I have been listening intently and I will pass the exam at the end of this with flying colors. I don't know about you. Oh yeah, there's an exam. I'm a few probably wouldn't join that. I know.

There's a quiz at the end. The cradies criminal activity remained hidden behind this celebrity status and their legitimate businesses. I also like that legitimate is in quotation marks. I don't think they're legitimate at all. So I just want to really quickly ask. So they shot a man in the head in daylight and haven't gone to jail for it. Yes. That's amazing. That is. That's amazing.

If it was, you know, it was a bit darker. It's Matt's talk, I've got time to sit. Daylight was the key point there, right? So they shot him in daylight, they're no repercussions, but in your mind, if it was, you know, twilight or bit later than that, then, you know, obviously, obviously you get away. Of course. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, that's the rule.

Are you with me? I feel like I'm losing them. Yeah. I really want him to say the revolution line on Mike, but he won't. Wait, wait, now that I've said it on Mike he might wait wait wait Viva revolution He said it way more powerful yeah because before he was speaking from the heart

with passion and now you just make him your little monkey you know my big monkey just do good thank you I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid.

I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid.

I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I'm a kid. 60s from now on so you don't ever get the show. What were Tism doing then? Tism? They were going through a high school, primary school. Primary school.

That primary school? 66, yeah. Great. Thank you. My dad went to school with one of the guys in Tism. Anyway. Oh, yeah. We talked about that.

You can chat to dad about that later. OK. I want to meet your parents. Specifically your dad, but also Annie. They already hate that I've pointed them out. Okay, so in October of 66, Reggie was encouraged by his brother to kill Jack the Hat McVity. That's what we should call the Hat.

Jack the Hat McVity. Jack the Hat McVity. That's good. Jack the Hat. Jack the Hat. No, it has to be Jack the hat, Mick Vitty. We have to remember that. I'm guessing that's how you say it.

It's MC. Jack in the Mick Vitty. Jack in the Mick Vitty. Oh, that's the best. Who suggested this one? This one from the hat? Oh, I did forget to mention. Hang on.

This is suggested by Jerome Williams via email. So, yeah, that's in the hat because he emailed it. So, yes. Is Jerome here by chance? Oh, you piece of shit Jerome What a dog Suggesting them leave the reports over we're down when I'm not going on with it. No, I would anyone got any other suggestions Not now. We have a 10 minute 10 minutes left in our room slot here. So we do need to Um, Dave you rushing me?

I'll finish when I want to, thank you. Oh what, you're fucking killing me! No, I think we're on track. So Jack the Hat McViddy, he was a minor member of the cray gang who had failed to fulfill a £1, pound contract, half of which was paid to him in advance to kill someone called Leslie Payne, another great name, but not a great thing. That's Payne, that's not a bad way to do it.

Oh, Leslie Payne. Leslie Payne, more, you know, time for your family. You cracked yourself up there. Oh, it was very good. He enjoyed that a lot. Okay, so he'd failed to fulfill his contract, so, and he's in there gang, but Ronnie was like, hey, kill him, to Reggie.

So McViddy was lowered to the basement flat on the pretense of a party. Like, hey, check the hat. You come to the party tonight. It's going to be sick. You can have the best time of a party. Like, hey, check the hat. You come to the party tonight. It's going to be sick. You can have the best time ever. One, it would be nice to die in your best clothes. Particle is too long.

Only you would think of that. Like, for example. What should I, would you die in? Probably this shirt. Have a fucking cool, if you wanted this shirt, you'd want to die as well. LAUGHTER But...

LAUGHTER It's got huskies on it. Oh. Cool, if you wanted this shit, you'd want to die as well. LAUGHTER But... It's got huskies on it? Is that from the dillard tove pass? Wait, that's not right, is it? Diatal of. Diatal of. You also just said we have 10 minutes sit down. Sorry, sorry, please give it a shot.

Show him a shirt. Everyone in to a party. On the bounty. And, oh, that's a very recent episode. Jack the Hat, come to the party. Once he got there though he saw Ronnie Krae seated in the front room and he's like okay well I must be early. Must be early to the party. As Ronnie approached him Ronnie let loose a barrage of verbal abuse and cut him below his eye with a piece of broken glass. It's believed in an argument then broke out.

Is it that point that he realized I don't think this is a party? This is a weird party. This is a weird. But I like it. You're in an inefficient way to kill someone. Take a little bit of class. Just a small incision. Just under the eye.

And then hope it gets infected. Yeah. N3 to 6 weeks. Yeah, cop that dickhead. It's believed that then an argument broke out between the twins and... Oh, there's an argument after that. Oh, hey, hang on. Not on me.

So weird you should do that. But I also like it. So that their fighting as the argument got more heated, Regicro pointed a handgun at McVitties' head and pulled the trigger twice, but the gun failed. That's what? That's what? That embarrassing thing.

That embarrassing. So I mean, it's not written in history, but I'm pretty sure Jack the Hat has well and truly shouting self by this point. Imagine that like, click, click. Oh no. Wait there. Where's my other gum so then McViddy was in held in a barehug which seems kind of nice by the twins cousin Ronnie Hart

Hey hey quick given the support he deserves. LAUGHTER He's feeling very vulnerable. Someone just pull a gun on him. Yeah, he's had a big day. LAUGHTER So he's held at a bear hug. And Reggie Kray was handed a carving knife. Oh no, the bear hug has gone very wrong. He's Stad McFiddy and the face and stomach

driving the blade into his neck while twisting the knife. And not even stopping once he's laying on the floor doing. His dad McFiddy and the face and stomach driving the blade into his neck while twisting the knife and Not even stopping once he's laying on the floor doing are you laughing at me acting out the twisting? No, I was just having a go Matt do one of the guys. This is how I would do it. Oh And that's fun everybody if you want to have a go no pressure everyone lives in the air Twist isn't that fun murder so So they just kept stabbing and stabbing and stabbing Everyone lives in the air! Yeah! Twist, isn't that fun?

Murderous fun. So they just kept stabbing and stabbing and stabbing. Yep. Jess, are you still on board with these guys? Hey, they've got their reasons. Yeah, Jack the Hat, he's a bad guy. I'm running out of time a little bit, I know, I'll keep moving through. Yep, yep, yep.

Which is my way of staying Matthew shut the fuck up. The spot one I liked it.. I'm kidding you're okay. Anyway, however, it's thought that Reggie never intended to kill McViddy, and he was lowered to the basement flat to be put straight by the twins. Hey, let's bring him in and let's just have a chat. And a little chat, maybe a bit of a stab. We'll see how we're going. Well, I'm under the assumption that the human body can withstand 19 stabs exactly. But if you accidentally stab someone 20 times, they could die. And that is clearly what's happened.

Yeah, they wanted to just be, like, they wanted to be who. Just want to be who. Just want to be who. Ooh, boy. Whatever the motive, Reggie have committed a very public murder against someone who, many of their own gang members, didn't really feel deserve to die? Because he's killed one of their own, let's remember. So people don't think that's great.

With the body being too big to fit in the boot of the car, they wrapped him in a quilt and put him in the back seat of the car. How the fuck in big, you see? It's a big dude. Well, they've got a hatchback. No, he's just a full grown adult. Right. Just because I could fit in the glove box, all right? He's just a full grown adult. Right.

Just because I could fit in the glove box, all right. By the way, I've been asking this, I was asking this last week when we met some listeners. Was anybody kind of disappointed that Dave is a normal-sized person? But he walked out, because we talk about it like he's pocket size. He walked out a little bit. 50 kilos, 50 kilos. Yeah. Adults don't do that. Hey, you're okay. 50 kilos, 50 kilos. Yeah.

Adults don't do that. Hey, you're okay. Thank you. You're just tiny. I need some food cards. So they've put him in the back seat of the card and a guy called Tony Lambriano. Is that right? Who cares?

Drone the card with the body and he's brother Chris and a guy called Ronnie Bender were following in a different car. And the back car said the car that was following Tony, they lost him at one point. You know when you're following your mates, they're like, just follow me and then they go, you're really like, oh, fuck. They lost him.

And this is before like smartphones, or mobile phones at all, or GPS. So they got lost and they spent like 15 minutes driving around trying to find him. And they eventually found Tony, he was outside some Mary's church, where he'd run out of petrol. That's his terribly plan. Oh it's so good. And McVitties' body's still in the car. And so they had no alternative rather than to just dump him in the church yard. So the body's left in the car and the three gangsters just returned home in the second car there's left the car there which is smart so obviously that was the last we heard of that all done

Ronnie Bender then went and phoned Charlie Kray the the Kray twins older brother and he informed them that it had been dealt with but when the twins hey don't worry no one one will ever find the body. No, no. Suck it, suck it. When the twins... Yeah, it's just going out of fashion. No one's going to cheer.

No one's going to cheer. It's fine. When the twins found out where they... Or like what had been... What had happened, they were really mad. So they phoned Freddie Foreman, who was running a pub, and kind of nearby, and they wanted to see if he could dispose of the body.

So with dawn breaking, he found the car, broke into it, drove the body to New Haven, where with the help of a trollerman, the body was bound with chicken rye, and dumped in the English channel. Freddie Foreman to the rescue, everybody. Yeah. Freddie Foreman.

I know I'm running out of time, aren't I? So I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, aren't I? So I'll I'll Schim is what I'll do and I'll do that see normally if we ever get to this sort of point and we're in the studio I'll go okay hang on a sec and there'll be like a couple of minutes of kind of silence while I find what I want to say And now I can't do that because you're all here, so just gonna be like cool all right So there's a guy called Inspector Leonard Nippa Reed, another great nickname. He's Chasinum. He's Chasinum.

He's put on the murder squad, a great squad name. And his first assignment is to bring down the cray twins. Nobody wants to talk. I'm summarizing what I read this morning, because that's when I finish this report. Nobody wants to talk. And then they give them secret meetings. And they're like, you're're safe just tell us things and then the cray twins want to

Pig other crimes on some of their gang members and the gang members like that's kind of fucked So then they start talking and I just saw my dad roll his eyes when I said that's fuck. Sorry dad I can see your dad Right so I can see you dad. Right, so They're honestly just so I think swearing is beneath you We had to be in John and everyone else Reckon that you should buddy clean up your act. Am I right fellas? Which member of the podcast did we have to enforce a rule of no more seawards?

I'm tired of remember I think we've got about two minutes on the clock. Okay, no problem. I will finish up and they went to prison Yeah I'm talking about justice Such nerds back guys went to prison, yay! They went, they got like 30-year sentences. This is kind of cool. In 85, officials at the Broadmore Hospital discovered a business card of Ronnings, which promoted an investigation.

It revealed that the twins who were incarcerated at separate institutions were operating a lucrative bodyguard and protection business for Hollywood stars together with their older brother Charlie and an accomplice who was on the outside. The officials were concerned about this operation. It was called craly enterprises,

but there was nothing really, they had no legal basis to do anything about it. They were kind of allowed to run this business. Among their clients was Frank Sinatra, who used the service by hiring 18 bodyguards on his visit to the 1985 Wimbledon Championships. He needed 18, apparently. And then a torusly violent torment. Rex Redd, see? He had a few, sir.

I hate you so much. Couple of quick things. So Ronnie Crowe was a category A prisoner. He was denied almost all liberties and not allowed to mix with other prisoners. He was eventually certified in Sain in 1979 and lived to the remainder of his life at Broadmore Hospital. Reggie was locked up in Maidston Prison for eight years and then was transferred to another prison as well. Ronnie was still serving time at the prison hospital when he died of a heart attack in 1995 at the age of 61. During his incarceration, Reggie became a born-again Christian. He was freed from Waland on the 26th of August, 2000, my 10th birthday! After serving more than the recommended 30 years.

It's the one gift you always wanted. Justice! Set the murder of free! He was 66 and he was released on compassionate grounds for having an inoperable bladder cancer. The final weeks of his life was spent with his wife Roberta, who he'd married while he was still in prison. And in October of 2000 he died in his sleep and 10 days later he was buried beside his brother Ronnie in Qingford Mount Cemetery. And that is the story of the cray tweed.

Yeah! Ladies and gentlemen, get off of Jess, what a great report. Thank you. We will have to hastily ramp this up as we've got another show coming in here at five o'clock. But thank you. Give yourselves a big round of applause

to being out first. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. We really do appreciate you coming out. Hi, if you want to. We really do appreciate you coming out. Hi, if he does, yeah. It will be coming out this Wednesday, if you want to hear yourself applauding. Yeah, be able to revolution in the middle of the day.

But we do have to go. Thank you so much for coming out tonight. We got to pack this up, but we'll be downstairs in about 10 minutes. Thank you so much and good night! Yay! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo!

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Woo! Woo! Woo! Tada! That brings us to the end of the first of a live Do-Go-On. I hope you enjoyed it. We certainly had a really good time being there at the show and anybody who was there in the audience, thank you so much. It was so cool

to see some of you there and the moment that people said a good year was probably the happiest moment of my life. As per usual, we do need to thank a few Patreon listeners and because I am doing this by myself, I apologize in advance to all of these listeners because you know I am really, really bad at thinking up Clevver pun names. So I'm not even gonna try. I'm just gonna be genuine and thank you and I hope that's okay. So first of all, I would like to thank the very lovely Pete Free. We did pronounce your name incorrectly a little while ago. I think Dave called you Piett or maybe Matt did. It sounds more like a matte thing. But you corrected us and it's Pete and thank you so much Pete. You're an absolute gem

and you've been there for ages now. You've supported us from the start and it means a lot to us. So thank you so much. The other person we would like to thank as well is Yana Nichol. I'm sure Dave probably would have had something really clever about Nichol. Matt probably could have thought of something else pretty clever too. Again, I'm bad at this, but I want to tell you genuinely Yana that it means a lot to us that you listen to our podcast and that you support us. It is so cool of you and you are most likely an incredibly cool person just based on the information that I have about you so far. So thank you so much. And finally for this week I need to thank someone who I feel like probably gets in contact with us a bit on Twitter because I recognize your

your your handle there, but we need to thank Cameron Zun. Zun being one of the coolest surnames ever. Congratulations on that Cameron. Thank you so much for your support as well. Again you've been there from the very beginning and that's really cool. So thanks so much to those three so Pete, Yann and Cameron, you are absolute champions and we thank you so much for listening and for supporting the show. It really means so much to us. If you would also like to support our other shows, if you are in Melbourne or Victoria or Australia and you have access to a plane or a car

and you want to come to our other shows, we are all three of us doing shows in the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Matt's show is called Pretty Dry. He's at the Chinese Museum and he is on at I think 730, sorry if I'm wrong there Matt, I'm at 370, he's all the way through to the 23rd so you can check him out any night of the week. He said Monday's, no Monday's. And we saw Dave and I saw his show during the French Festival and it is

seriously a hilarious show. So you should absolutely check that out. It is so, so good. Dave is doing his blind-dating show spectacular. So he's just doing Monday nights. So there's two more shows left, the 10th and the 17th of April. Matt and I were both guests on Monday. The Monday just got on the 3 third and it was so much fun. It is just that it was hilarious, silly show. He's got his love expert sidekick, Dr. Neil Potenza, who is incredibly funny. And it's just such a good show. Dave is such an amazing presenter and he's just such a charismatic fund dude. He just carries it so well and the whole show is just an absolute scream So if you're in Melbourne and and you want to come to that do that. That's 830 at the town hall and I am doing my show

My show will start next Tuesday and the 11th it kicks off. It's called twins and it's a split show with another amazing comedian Naomi Higgins She's absolutely awesome and and just a delight. So we're doing our split show at the Greek Centre, we're 615 from the 11th to the 23rd. For all of these shows you can just get tickets at ComedyFestival.com.au and punch in our names and you should be able to find us that way and that would be really awesome because we love to get to meet you guys and you know we love to eat and this is how we make our money if I'm just going to be completely transparent about it give us your money.

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