Two In The Think Tank - 79 - Loch Ness Monster (with Nick Mason)

Episode Date: April 26, 2017

The Loch Ness Monster! You've heard of it, but is it real? Dave investigates and reports to Jess, Matt and special guest Nick Mason from The Weekly Planet. Our final episode recorded live at the Melbourne Comedy Festival, Dave goes through Nessie's history, the photos, the stories and the many claimed sightings. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? Is it... an otter??? Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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the GI Bill. Now is the time. Mycomputercareer.edu See you! Hey guys, you are listening to Do Go On My Name is Dave Warnke and I'm just dropping in at the start of the episode here to tell you that you are about to listen to our final live show recorded at the Melbourne Comedy Festival on the Sunday just gone. It was a lot of fun as they all have been and we had very special guest and good friend of the podcast Nick Mason returned to be part of the show so that was very exciting for us and I'm sure you guys will enjoy that too. I'll be back at the end of the episode to thank a few Patreon supporters, but until then I'll say enjoy the episode and I'll see you in about 56 minutes. Alright, see ya! Hello, good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome down to Dugo on live at the email but

comedy festival in my name. My name is David Bowie and I'm very happy to be here tonight. No, my name is Dave Warner here and I'm here. We just broke his nuts, shoot ladies and gentlemen. Yay! Hey, thank you so much. What a pleasure. I tell Evan on sound. He goes, do I need to stop that track?

I know, it'll stop itself. It will definitely not roll back in to David Bowie and make us all look like fuckheads. Thank God that didn't happen. Wow. It's so good to be here. This is a live show, last live show at the Conti Festival guys. We are absolutely pumped, except for possibly Jess who has... No, I'm pumped. She has some health issues today. You work out with a terrible migraines, that right? Yeah, I'm good. I'm speaking the mic. I was thinking to my drink. Is this good? I'm not good. I'm in a world of pain but you guys are you guys look great.

I'm we're all here ready to I was so I was sick one time right one time I try to get hashtag pray for Matt and the very next week what this is bullshit Jess I don't believe her and I don't think you should give her any sympathy Look at her look how happy she looks she's not sick Now what's this what's this what's going on here? So we do have a fourth chair here ladies and gentlemen because tonight or this afternoon rather we have a fourth chair here, Legend of Duteron, because tonight, well, this afternoon, rather, we have a very special guest. Could you please... It is not David Bowie, but it is someone equally as cool.

Would you please give it up for, you're booing, sir? It's tradition, it's fine. I know my lot in life. Do you often get booed on the street? Yeah, I demand it. It was part of my ride, didn't you read that? I want some booers around as we live. Thank you. Thank you.

It's great to be back, guys. I'm your Ringo star. It's... Yes, you are still alive. Correct, yeah. You will outlive, uh, two of us. Oh, you'll put sugar living long in the mat. Yes. Yes, you're the health riddled problems.

Yeah, that in a sense, anyway. Great to be here. Mesa, are you well? I'm under the weather because it's the last day of festival, but other than... I don't even do comedy I don't understand for me so thank you if you could I know that was at him so it's got fingered for those at home I was just letting the people at home know that Jess fingered me that's all oh you're reacted like that was weird how many shows have you seen?

Ah, 60-ish probably. That is fucking intense. Anyway, anyone here beat six. Oh, how many? 72. And you came to my show. And you're a really nice guy, thank you. Would you put this show on the top 72?

Yes. Oh, that's pretty good. It was a better than match show. No comments. Oh, wow. I put you in a terrible position now. It's great to have Mesa here, considering that we are at a comedy festival with 600 plus shows, comedians all over the world come here and we have got Alfred Nick Mason, who's not even doing his show to be part of it. You're welcome. That's how much I'm the most refreshed guest you could have possibly gotten.

I think everybody else is just ruined. That's a lot of 22 nights off. It's great to have you here. And as a great shirt. Thank you. Thank you. We've got to bow to it. It's not all comedy, guys.

Some of us will be complimentary. Some of us just friendship. Well, before we get into the report side of things, I've just been reminded by my own brain to tell you that they, if you just eat it. If you need to get up to go to the, the John, as I call it, the toilets, as you, the Libyans call it, or to get a drink or anything, there is a camera there, so you will have to that or sit there and cheat yourself. Two options. Two options. Those are the options. Those are the options.

Those are the options. Because we are filming for the first time this live podcast. So... I'm just joking. This might last the whole episode. We're going to run this out. You're an idiot. We've got to jump into this report because it is actually Jess's turn to do a report, because she worked out with a migraine this morning. At 12 o'clock, the report was delegated to myself.

But she'd obviously written the report. Oh, yeah, she had... Oh, actually, I'll start reading the report and I'll tell you to stop. When Jess's report finishes and mine begins. So you two already know what the topic is so can I pretend to not know So I've says yes you can't be trusted you can't be trusted all right so if you haven't heard the show before we usually start with a question to get us on topic and my question is David wrote the question. I just know I write the question. He doesn't write questions.

The question is for Mesa and Matt, and then for you guys afterwards. What mythical creature is Scotland's national animal? Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Billy Connolly. LAUGHTER That is pretty mythical.

It's pretty mythical. Mesa, do you have any ideas? That's got to be the easiest question that's been asked on the show. That is pretty mythical. It's pretty mythical. I said, do you have any ideas about this? That's got to be the easiest question that's been asked on the show. I think so. We're going to have to dance around it for a little bit. Yeah. Good work with Billy Conley. That is.

Just some joke, Hans. What I'm always going to tell you that the... Haggis. Stinginess. Is that a well known Scottish trait? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. A plus Stingy bastard.

What if I was to tell you that it's probably not what you think? What do you think it is, Matt? Loch Ness Monster. It's actually a unicorn. That is the genuinely their national animal. And my follow-up question was going to be, because I thought you might get that, what should be Scotland's national animal and my follow up question was gonna be because I thought you might get that what should be Scotland's national animal Connolly. Yes

Matt you want to have one more girl? I knew that actually because you know my surname Stuart is Relatively Scottish you haven't mentioned that 800 times on this podcast and and I'm very stingy May so I think that's where we got that from What will we I forgot we're here, that San Hats was meant to go. It's the Loch Ness Monster ladies and gentlemen. Hey! That is our topic today.

I'm glad you didn't do that. That would have been a long, long one now. You hate everything. Yeah, fair, fair. So we've got the Loch Ness Monster, that is our topic today. Have you guys been to Loch Ness? No, fair. Yeah, fair. So we've got the lockness one, so that is our topic today. Have you guys been to lockness? No, never. No.

I wanted to, because I was in Edinburgh last year, and I was like, it's surely just up the road. It's quite far. And I was like, nah. We only do walk to lockness. I wasn't a walk that I thought, like, maybe a bus. Well, I'll make up for you because I... Again, not all funny.

I think I've seen an episode of The Goodies where they went to Loch Ness or it might have been an episode where they just hit each other with sticks for 22 minutes. I'm really not sure. I've seen an episode of The Goodies. You've seen one episode. Now, well, don't worry.

I'm glad I'm doing the report. No, you just because I've actually been to Loch Ness twice. Been on twice. Growing up in the Afloan East when I was 11, my parents took me to New Scotland. Of course, yeah. And then when I was 23, both times I went on the river cruise and what you do is you sort of look out

for the Loch Ness once, and I was much more dedicated when I was 11, I thought I was gonna see him. Neither time I saw it, but I'm still fascinated by Loch Ness, so let's do this. For those that don't know Loch Ness is a large, deep freshwater lock in the Scottish Highlands, which is, if you don't know what a lock is, what is a lock?

A lock is the Irish Scottish-Killican Scots word for a lake. He hasn't answered for everything, don't you? No. He clicks on every hyperlink in Wikipedia. Just in case. 696 links to go. Just in case. 696 links to go. Lognes is the largest Scottish lock by service areas.

22 square miles of 56 square kilometres. Lock Lormand is bigger than it, but because of its depth, the Lognes, it is. It has more freshwater than all lakes and England and Wales combined. So, cop that England and Wales? Yes! If it was drained, it could hold the population of the world more than 10 times over. Wait, what? What is that name? And who builds those statistics? What madman?

This is... What if you melted us down? There's no water in the lake. It's so big. And we all just stood next to each other. So if you wanted to turn Loch Ness into some sort of mass grave for the entire planet, we could... And I do. Dave started early with the mass graves, that's interesting.

Fuck off. Oh, god. Oh, god. Oh, jeez. Oh, I have to tiptoe around every subject because they all link back to Nazi somehow. I just want to talk about mass grey for ten minutes, okay? Now the earliest, oh, at a steepest point, it's 230 made in steep. So, that is pretty deep.

Again, not all funny. All funny. The earliest report of a monster in the vicinity of, oh, by the way, I've already stopped, yes, is it? Oh, yeah, I'm done. Oh. Yeah, now we started really, I was like, woo. Hey, Dave, should you also want everyone about what happens next door at the time?

All right, so every week there is a wrestling live show next door and it goes off and we always go, go fuck yourselves. And people at home probably thinking, who are they talking to? Like it's you guys that live audience. So that's just for a bit of context there. I thought just just getting ready to get to the perfect show. I'm going to.

Today's the day. I'm taking a flight so it's wrestling cans. Do you think that you might be sick just caramelized because of a certain rant against an 18-year-old in the air and last week? I don't think there's a connection and I stand by my opinions. I think they could be. Now the... She's just so close! Oh no! Oh! Oh yeah. Yeah, fucker. The earliest report of a monster in the vicinity of Loch Ness appears in the Oh, yeah. Yeah, fucker.

The earliest report of a monster in the vicinity of Loch Ness appears in the life of St. Columbo, which is a book written in the 6th century AD, according to the story, which was written about a century after the events described, so you know it's reliable. Irish monk St. Columbo, who this whole story is about, was staying near Loch Ness with his companions when he encountered local residents burying a man by the river Ness. They explained that the man was swimming in the river and he was attacked by a water beast which mold him and dragged him under the water. So they were probably just trying to cover up a murder. That is essentially what has happened there.

As a water beast. What are you guys doing there with that body? We didn't do it. Water beast did, so that answers that question. Water beast carrying a sword. What is that in those wounds? Good day sir. A columbar sent a follower to swim across the river, so cowardly, did not go himself, did not go himself, to try and sort out this water beast that he'd heard about. Apparently the

beast approached him, but Columbus still on the shore made the sign of the cross another very cowardly way to protect someone. Don't worry I got you! Doesn't always work, it does, it does not always work. It does not always work. Do you think you did that? Yeah, that's probably it, yeah. Columbus said, He probably just threw like communion wafers into the water. Like feeding the duck stars. Yeah, all that. Oh, okay, he was just cute.

No, fair enough. He said, Go no further. Do not touch the man. Go back at once. The creature stopped as if it had been pulled back with ropes, and it fled under the water. Columbus' men gave thanks for what they perceived as a miracle. Can you give us an example of what it would look like to be pulled back by the reins? Oh, shit!

And then I'll like, miracle. So basically everyone had an angle here. Like, Columbus gets a miracle. He looks like he's doing a job and they get away with movement. Murder, exactly, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some guy that like stole like the town's soup or something. Soup? So he got soup.

So everyone wins. Everyone's looking for their food. The town's soup. But that was your go-to. So he got soup, so everyone wins. Yeah, everyone's looking for that. Don't let the towns soup. But that was your go-to. You know how all small towns have a big vibe of soup? Oh, I know. Yeah.

Keep some warm in the winter. I'm a country girl, I know. That's right. I mean, they're so sweet. I know. I mean, you're not. Yeah, you're also from the Afloan East, please. I'd have said that Columbus banished the Ferocious Water Beasts

to the depths of the river, which the river nest, which flows from the north end of the locks. He didn't even let it hang on the lock anymore. Columbus is today credited with spreading Christianity in what is today, he's Scotland. So that is probably why Scotland is Christian. LAUGHTER Just because he did that.

That's so good. That's not the sign of the Cross, is it? No, no. It's like this, they go... What, but... You're thinking of Madonna. Oh, Macona. That's Macona.

I'm actually the other... I think you're... I didn't do it to imagine. You're a crazy giant sea monster. What's scarier? Or this? If someone, if I was walking to my car and I looked over and someone was doing that, I'd be calling me. I'd shit myself.

Dave, I feel you could do that without the sign of the cross. It's all in the eyes. Yeah. If anything, the cross sort of takes away from the gaze of the... Believers in the Monster points to this story. The story that I just told you... As evidence for the creature's existence, as early as the sixth century, skeptics questioned the narrative's reliability, noting that water beast stories were extremely common in medieval times. But so are water beasts, so it's probably. And murders. Yeah. Yeah, every time someone died, water beast.

Just struck again. Then we got cuts 1200 years to 1871 or 1872. Both good years. I wasn't going to say it, 1872, I just needed you to say that. Did you mean 1972? Unlike you, I read the date at the written town. 1872. I'm sure of the year, I'll tell you why.

A Scottish man known to history as D. Mackenzie, would not give his first name, he reportedly saw an object resembling a log or an upturned boat, quote, wriggling and churning in the water in Loch Ness. The object moved slowly at first, disappearing at faster speed. D. Mackenzie sent his story into a newspaper in 1934, a mere 62 years later, shortly after a popular interest in the monster head increase. And this is what he wrote. Wait, it said, wait, it looked like a log. Yeah.

I know what that must be. Or a, or a nut-turned-boat. On a log, can you imagine such a thing? Yeah, I know, yeah. They don't make sense. I know what makes sense. It could have been Billy Connolly riffing as a log. Yes. He's so versatile. He is versatile. No, yeah, they don't make sense. I know what makes sense. It could have been Billy Connolly riffing as a log. Yes. He's so versatile.

He is versatile. This is what he wrote into the newspaper. I saw it about 1871 or 1872. As near as I can remember now, I was on the rock above insert Scottish word here. I'm curious to go and read that. Now I give it a whirl. A brick and... ...now it? I can't read that. No, I give it a whirl. A brick-in!

Can I help it? I don't know the meaning! A brick-in! Can I have a go with that? Let's all have a go with that. What's up with that? No, it's a brick-in! Yeah, it's a brick-in. It's a brick-in. It's Japanese.

Oh! So he briefly went to Japan. That's how unreliable the story had a ship is pie Hey, is that a thing? Is that a not? Oh in Japan. Yeah, sorry Why don't you have ship is playing garlic? It's so culture He loves it. He loves to soak up culture. Yeah, so she can go fuck if you're not even gonna get your own in jokes mate

Then what am I fucking doing here? So sorry He wrote sir when he was in a brick and he I saw what I took to be a log of wood coming across the log The water was very calm at the time. It was about 12 o'clock on a grand sunny day. So that was so it was impossible The wrestling has started, ladies and gentlemen. We are not at all ready to rumble. It's very upsetting. Tryna have a civilized bloody comedy show here. And these fuck up for, I was going, I was about to go strong there.

No, I went strong early. I think you can do it. Okay, these, nah, good. It's like a polite golf club. Oh, very good. Please welcome to the stage, Death Munger. Oh, very good. So I was gonna say, he said, he said,

the end of the quote was, it was about 12 o'clock on a grand sunny day, so that it was impossible for me to be mistaken. He wasn't even sure what year this happened. But it was definitely sunny. Definitely. Remember that. That is not a mistake. 62 years a long time to remember back. I remember a 62 years ago when I was, I think I was just about to retire from my third job. Wait, what? I'm really old.

He's pretty old. Now, did. Still, you thundered, fucko. Now, modern interest in the monster was sparked by a sighting on the 22nd, and can't shut up! Yes Dave, for the people at home Jess was telling Dave to shut up. Sorry Dave, you're beautiful. Modern interest in the monster was sparked by... Talk wider!

By a sighting. On the 22nd of July 1933, when a man called George Spicer and his wife saw a quote, most extraordinary form of animal. What was her name? Mrs. Question. George Ena Spicer. No, I never know. It's the wife's name.

Name's a track. George and George Ena. They saw this most extraordinary form of animal cross the road in front of their car. They described the creature as having a large body, about 1.2 meters high, 8 meters long, and a long, wavy, narrow neck, slightly thicker than an elephant's trunk. As we all know, is how we measure how thick things are.

The trunk was as long as 3 to 4 meters long. Was it wearing a bowtie? It was bowtie-less. Repeat bowtie-less. They also said they saw no limbs, repeat with limbs. How did it push the button? At the crossing.

It's just waving. Oh, wait for somebody else. Waiting for a chicken to come along. Oh yeah. Across the road with them. Yeah, no, it's not all good. I'm taking a lot of very strong painkillers. It looked across the road, 20 metres away,

leaving a broken trail of undergrowth in its wake, and then it went back into the lock. So it was out of the water? Oh, yeah. It was on a day trip. It was on small day trip. The next month, August 1933, a motorcycleist, Arthur Grant, claimed to have nearly hit a creature at about 1 a.m. on a moonlit night.

So that's trustworthy as well, isn't it? This thing's out all the time. It's out of midday. It's out at night. What's it doing? What's it what are you doing? No, no, no, no. Oh, yes, it's nocturnal. Is it the opposite of... There's a full of very life. It's out and about. It's not nocturnal, it's lock turn.

Yeah, good, very good. Yeah, round of applause. Two, one, two, one, two, one, two, one, two, one. He's checking the football scores. Now I reckon he's there to let him. All right, Matt, give us a quick footy update. He's checking. Hang on. Okay, no worries.

You'll yell out, no worries. He's great. He's probably already is in order, obviously. This motorcycle is great, who was a veterinary student, described it as a cross between a seal and a placey a saw, which obviously is a vet you come across every day for the week. Oh, it's time. He said he got off his bike and followed it to the lock, but by the time he got to the water to catch up with it, he only saw ripples.

He produced a sketch of the creature. It was examined by famous British duologist Nessie Skeptic, Maurice Burton, who stated it was consistent with the appearance and behaviour of an otter. A giant fucking otter. That's pretty scary. Also, for a second there I thought the name of the zooologist was going to be nessie skeptic and I was like, that's very convenient, right?

That is great. Maddie, how's the foot of your? Same sound by a point, but... Hey. Against long, latter leaders, so that's not too bad. Happy with that at this stage. What a day. This could be a really great day. A few months later.

1933, it's going through the roof. The first alleged photograph of Nessie was taken. It was slightly blurred. Oh, there was. And it has been noted that if one looks closely, the head of a dog can be seen. But where? No one knows. The person who took the photo, Gray had taken his labrador for a walk that day. And it's suspected that the photograph depicts his dog fetching a stick from the lock.

Yeah. I just love that. Is that not? He's like, proof. It's proof. Is that just that really famous photo? No, we're not up to the really, really famous one. If I say long, this one's a Yuala Imagine.

We are very close to that. But with the Labrador star photo, our old mate's a skeptic Maurice Burton. Yes, he's skeptic. How to look. And guess what he saw? When Blown Up and projected on the screen, it revealed, quote, an otter rolling on the surface in characteristic fashion. It's got to seize otters everywhere.

Look at that face. Space of an otter. Have I ever seen one? It's like you go to a vet. Matt do something in otter would do. No, I think that is his order in question. It's very good. That's much more order-like than something that looks like,

someone's described as looking like a dinosaur and the guy's gone, classic order. Are we sure it wasn't an order? Is it made, as he say, an order? It had no limbs and a three meter long trunk. Yeah. I've got to get it. Wait, what am I thinking of?

You're thinking of a plessiest haul. Ah, yeah, sorry. We never show what you're thinking of. I've got to note here that the largest otter, I looked it up, there's 13 species of otter. The largest one is 45 kilos. And that's like the biggest one ever. 45 kilos.

See, this is it? That's what you weigh again? Is that bigger than you? Yeah, it's bigger than you, right? No, no, it's slightly small. So imagine me in otter form. Mine always do. Mine always do.

Chop off that leg or something. See, this is so clearly a day report, because I would not have looked that up. You know? Any of it. Oh my god. I looked up Loch Ness. a day report because I would not have looked that up. Any of it. I looked up Loch Ness. Nailed it.

Days more of a twink than an alter though, I think. LAUGHTER And it was the last guest appearance he ever did. I reckon we'll have you back, Mesa. Thanks, Bob. Yeah, the others will be told me. So 1933, you probably noticed, there's like four sightings in 1933, all possibly authors. But that's when the legend really took off around the world.

It's been claimed that sightings of the monster increased after a road was built along the lock in that year, early 1933, bringing workers and tourists to a formerly isolated area. Locals deny this saying it wasn't isolated before, but what you and I think is isolated is very different to what people from the Scottish Islands think is isolated. We have to keep that in mind. That's all I have a moment just to think about it. Just think about it? You get it. In 1934, inspired by all the talk of the monster Edward Mountain, who is the founder of Eagle

Star. That's a good name. That's a great name. But you're not an accountant. You're not an accountant. You're not an accountant. You found an insurance company. What would you call it?

What would you call your insurance company? It insurance. Well, it's pretty good. Eagle star insurance. Insurance. Eagle star insurance. I'm just reading it off the page that's what it says look right there. It says insurance dickhead.

I've been mispronouncing C for years. Eagle star in cheer, I can't even do my mispronunciation. Which is, it became one of the UK's largest insurance companies. He decided to finance a search for the monster. You wanted to find the monster. He got 20 men with binoculars and... Oh, God! Imagine that times, 20. Oh, and cameras.

But if you're at home just is acting in that right now, I'm not sure why, but it's great, it's really fun. What year is this? It is 1934. It's probably the box ground in your camera. A box ground in your camera. It's like this, and then we'll look through here, and then we'll put some butt look here, and then we send it to Kodak. Not only is she mimeing this, she's also not talking to me. A box brownie can... Not only is she miming this, she's also not talking to the mic. Just to really fuck the people at home.

So you're going to mime the three to four week wait, it takes to get it from the codec and get the results? Absolutely, I might be silent for the rest of the podcast. So these 20 guys are good, but Oculus cameras, brownie box, whatever. They position themselves around the lock from 9-6 every day for 5 straight weeks. 5 straight weeks. They were paid 2 pounds per week by the lock with... Oh my god, with box cameras! This is it! This is it right here! I'm not even getting the, that's her name.

I got it! What are you all about? I mean, thank you, but I like... I studied photography. It was the style of the time, Dave. Did you study photography of the 19th? If it's a DSLRs, that would be much weird, right? I love it when people are impressed that I know things.

It makes me really happy and also a little bit sad. Oh, she's a video, but she knew something. right? I love when people are impressed that I know things. It makes me really happy and also a little bit sad. Oh, she's a video, but she knew something. They also offered a bonus of 10 pounds 50, so they're a whole weeks wait for five weeks if they got a successful picture of the monster. So because of that, it's not unexpected that some of them put in some pretty blurry photos. 21 photographs were taken, non-considered conclusive. So that guy wasted lots and lots of money. Now, later in the year 1934, the most famous photo of the month to came up.

If you Google Loch Ness months right now, 80 years later, it still says, well, it still says, would you like to click on images? I mean, I couldn't have been a special photographer. To this very day. Oh boy. This is referred to as the surgeon's photo. The surgeon's photograph is reportedly the first photo of the creature's head and neck. So Daily Mail, which was a piece of shit there, is a piece of shit there. Whoa!

Dave, take it down the big gun. Oh, yeah. Taking the widely condemned. Yeah, nah, fuck them. Yeah. Yeah. Take on somebody your own size, like Bidio and... Yeah.

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Oh, the Daily Mail ended in 1933. Taking advantage of this new Nessie craze that's sweeping the world. They hired a famous penis-y craze. Yes, it was a different time. They hired the hired biggest the famous big game hunter Marmaduke Weatherall. Oh my goodness. I knew you just love that. Marmaduke. The Duke. The Duke. They said they asked him... I enjoyed the Duke a lot. They got the Duke to travel up to the lockness to see if

he could find the monster. He found no monster, however, in December he found what he thought to be enormous tracks. Normus footprints on the shore of the Loch leading to the waters. He took photos of these, published in the Daily Mail. Unfortunately, researchers from the Natural History Museum examined the tracks and they had been made with the dried hippos' foot. Eww! The kind that were... Better than the dried hippos' foot. Ew. The kind that were...

Better than moist hippos' foot, though. The kind that were popularly used as umbrella stands at the time. It was a different time. Yeah, it definitely was. Humiliated, weather-all, retreated. He retreated from public use. So he was widely laughed at because he published photos of a hippo's thoughts in Scotland. And because of this.

That was very taboo at the time. You did not take a photo of a hippo's thoughts. A few months later, the Loch Ness Monster, again made headlines when a highly respected surgeon and gynecologist, Colonel Robert Wilson, came forward with a picture that appeared to show a sea serpent rising out of the water of the lock. He's a Colonel. Colonel. And a gynecologist. And a surgeon. I'm not going to that guy. I reckon I would. For all your gynecological needs. Yes. For all your gynecological needs. Yes. Of which I have many. Jess, thank you. Good evening, your name is Jess.

I'm going to get a chat to Matt later. Wilson claimed that he took the photograph early in the morning, April 1934, when driving along with the Northern Shore of Loch Ness. He said he saw, notice something moving in the water, stopped his car, took four photos, and when he exposed to them, two of them came out clearly. So he's got two photos. For a number of years,

the photo was considered evidence of the monster. So this was published, everyone's like, oh, it exists, skeptics, dismiss it. I think they're Scottish, so what would they have said? Eh. That was seven words condensed into one. So, my grandfather was born in Scotland in Camp Australia, like in the 1930s, and then no, 1925 to be exact. And when I was on this trip to Loch Ness, we went to where he was

born, a town called Straven, and we went to the farm, which is still owned by relatives of his, and we met the farmer who owns the farm. He was like, a guy in these late 70s at the time, and I could not understand the word he said. I was 11 and I was going, it was like, oh, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then he would just pause and go, oh, I, oh, I, that's the only thing I knew.

So I could not understand a word. And my mom's just like, not nudging me, like just smile, just smiling. This is your great, great cousin or something. Your face was fucked. My face was directly quoting his face. You were again. Oh, man.

Oh, man. Oh, man. That's pretty good. For a number of years, this was, photo was considered evidence. Skeptics dismissed it as driftwood, a bird or an otter. For a number of years, this was, photo was considered evidence, skeptics dismissed it as driftwood, a bird or an otter.

LAUGHTER Fucking dude. LAUGHTER This guy, the photo scale was controversial because it was seen, it looked like it had been zoomed in on and then cropped. Because then they found an uncrop shot, which made it look very, very small

in comparison to the waves around it. So people were, dubious of it. But but no one analyzed the photo properly for 50 years until in 1984, Stuart Campbell analyzed the photo in a 1984 article in the British Journal of Photography. Jess, I'm sure you subscribed to that as a big photography fan. Yep. Great. This is for you.

You know, when she cracked it at the crowd before for appreciating her knowledge on cameras? No one knew that you'd studied photography at that point. So what they were doing was very nice and you got so angry at him I've not been I haven't been able to concentrate on the reports since then because that was very rude Don't turn them against me. You do this every time. Look aren't well to be honest. They should be turned against you Am I right guys? Well, to be honest, they should be turned against you. Am I right, guys? Feverler revolution! Here we go!

Do it in your booing! I've divided it. I've divided it while though. I feel like I've got some of them, and I've lost a few others. You lost this guy, he was booing again. He was born to boo that man. I've heard him say any words, can you? Boo!

Yeah. Are you Scottish? I'm in a house. Very good. So this guy analyzed the photo and he said the object in the water in the photo could only be two or three feet long at most. I like Dave standing in my heart. Yeah, he's standing.

Yeah. Hey, little fella. Hey. Are you standing because there's a revelation coming? He's going to drop some truth bombs here. Here we go. Here we go. This guy concluded that he was either a bird or an otter, another butthole.

But he was wrong! Remember our old mate, Mama Duke, weather all? How could we ever forget? They did a preacher in our mother. The hunter? Who has just become the hunter? It only works if it become the hunter. He's the one that was embarrassed by the Daily Mail publishing his monster tracks that

they turned out to be a hoax, probably that they did in the first place, and then they made fun of him. Well he wanted revenge on the old Daily Mail. He was the one that copped all the heat. Not them. He quote, this is a quote, we'll give them their monster. His son later remembered him saying, which is a great line. He's upset we pointed out that he's standing up and now he has to leave it to every single thing. So, Marmaduke, Duke,

got together with his son Ian, his son in law. Marmaduke called his son Ian, what an asshole. What a dog, hey? I've lived a blessed life with the best name in the world fuck my son Big time big time Well, he's got a aunt. He's also got his son-in-law who sculpt your specialist named Christian Still not great. No and an insurance and insurance agent named Maurice Chambers Maurice or Morris Chambers probably Maurice Chambers. Maurice! Or Maurice Chambers. Probably Maurice Chambers will go there. Yeah. They bought a toy submarine from a local supermarket and built a monster's neck from wood

putty. After testing it at a local pond, the group went to Loch Ness where Ian witherall, the son, took the photos near Scottish work T-ahouse, old-side teahouse. When they heard a water baler which is like a cop that patrols the lock approaching. That's right. Locked cop! Locked cop is very good. So Scotland's number one grossing cop drama. Locked cop. CSI lock up. It's a bit of driftwood again. Oh! We thought it was a murder, but it was just a water-based again. So, everywhere is the same. Lock cop and two smoking barrels.

That's not bad. That's not bad. That's a pretty good pun. So, anyway, he is the lock cop coming. So, Duke, being the hunter guy, he takes his foot out and kicks the submarine out, which sinks, shit our submarine, by the way. From a supermarket. But they're also, that's what they're meant to do. LAUGHTER

Really good submarine, really good submarine. Which is presumably still somewhere in Loch Ness. The insurance man Chambers gave the photograph to Wilson, a gynecologist. He enjoyed a good practical joke, a friend of theirs. He bought the photos to a chemist, which developed them. Then he sold the photos to the Daily Mail, who announced that the monster had been photographed.

This whole story was secret until 1994, when the sculptor, Christian Spelling, before his death at the age of 90, on his deathbed, confessed to his involvement in the Loch Ness Monster plot. I sort of tuned out for it, but you know what, you know in law and order when there's a scene transition, it's like, Dung, Dung. I imagine on Loch Coff, it looks like this one. There's a water beast. HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE And we're so we're up to... I'll put a face up right in there. Yeah, okay, cool, great. In 1977, Anthony Doc Shields, Carping...

Carping, camping... On a carpet. Dave's had a strike, yeah. So, all right? We got 10 minutes to go. I can make this. Carping next to Earcart Castle, which is a beautiful castle there. You've been there, of course, I have twice, unlike these plebeans. He took some of the clearest pictures of the monster that have ever been photographed. Sheels, who is a magician, psychic, and painter.

So a pretty red dude. I'd like him at a dinner party, that's for sure. I know you're all about to trust what he saw, but let me. He also doubles in G in gynecology Dabbles he's a dabble This is my favorite thing I read about doc doc shields Quart he had several solar exhibitions in London before then leaving St. Ives where he lived following a drunken incident in which he threatened a police officer with a gun that he had obtained from his painter friend Terry Frost.

He considers himself an artist first and foremost and his life's work to be a former surrealism that he refers to as... Garnacology. I paint primarily with his gun, I don't know if that's successful, but you know. So we all trust this guy now. Yep. He claimed to have summoned the Loch Ness Monster out of the water. He later described it as an elephant squid, claiming the long neck shown in the photograph is actually the squid's trunk and the white spot at the base of the neck is its eye.

I've looked at the photo, that it, that, no, no, no, no dark. Jews are the lack of ripples that has been declared a hoax by a number of people and received the name the Loch Ness Muppert. And I've seen it and it looks like a dinosaur in a bathtub. Or an otter! In a bathtub.

Do you write that down? No I didn't, but... That was off the cuff. Oh yeah. Oh very good. He rarely works off the cuff days, so... It's a golf club for you off the cuff work there. That's cute.

The same club that murder horn next to all golfs. Murder horn. I called him something that murder horn next door goes. Murder horn. I call him something, murder face, you know. Murder death. Oh, he does talk. Two words you can understand from the Scots. He only hear the death. He only booze in threatens.

It's such a boo, murder death. All of you. I will take it. Who I? Who I? Who I? 1987 Operation Deep Scan was conducted, and that is the biggest sonar search they've ever done.

It cost them 1 million pounds. Operation Deep Scan. Go on ecology. That's where you were. That was where I was going, Ben. Thanks for going there. Oh no. Hey Dave, when you edit this?

Don't be a boost to the volume on that little bit. You said before, yeah. Just have that on repeat for the solid three minutes. That was my request, yes. Just back on. Gone a colgis. Gone a colgis. Gone a colgis. back on, gone ecologist, gone ecologist, gone ecologist. Break it down, man.

Operation Deep Skin, 1987. 24 boats equipped with echo sound and equipment were deployed across the width of the lock and simultaneously sent acoustic waves across the side. How many pairs of binoculars? 600 pairs of binoculars. That's a lot of binoculars. Let's send some acoustic wave, shall we? Hoooo! So, I come in through?

That's a bit tough. You pick up those acoustic waves, Evan? Oh, he's getting it. Is he, is he is a bleeding? Uh, they are, after examining a sonarar return indicating a large moving object at a depth of 118 meters near Irkut Bay, Lawrence, whose founder of Lawrence electronics, said, there's something here that we don't understand, and there's something here that's larger than a fish. Maybe some species that hasn't been detected before, I don't know.

Like an otter. They are larger than a fish. Yeah. And can anyone here truly say that they understand the otter? No exactly. With their long trunks and lack of limbs. They've baffled me for years. Will we ever truly know the otter though? They're white eye at the pieces, isn't it? But they spent a million pounds and didn't exactly find anything. This was the guy who won the electric company. Yes, so he said that. So it was a sponsored, it's an ad basically. Yeah, so they didn't find anything.

It's good ad, good ad. I'm thinking about going to buy some stuff from there after the show. Right, so 1980s electronic. So now our equipment's. Yeah, whatever. I don't know whatever Anyone got the footies school Let's let's I'm back in You're happy with that, but all I'm thinking is that you are looking up Yeah. Look, you're happy with that, but all I'm thinking is that you are looking up the

phone. Dave, don't worry. I understand, mate. I do understand. Dave, we've got his money. It's fine. You can do whatever you want. Thank you very much.

I'm literally just. Great, so it's a current. Score that. It's enough time. So there's no need for you to continue to look. Then it's 10 minutes of the show. You just support Matt. Yeah. He just said, I don't even support them, yet you...

No, but he wanted to, he knew Matt needed to know. What's your name, sir? No, I love you, no, I... That's a fucking great name, too. No, no. He's just a big fan of bodies of water, he doesn't care. I'm sorry, everyone. I've been awake a really long time. I'm so sorry. Took me a while to-

I'm waiting for Dave to get it. Oh, I know, I'm trying to work in a... Shut up, man. I'm denailing you. I would have thought you'd been working on some sort of death on the River Nile. Is that the thing? Oh yeah, death on I, one of the greatest, I could think which the pyro episodes. Of course. I mean, it's so good.

I challenge you to watch and work, I think you did it. And I want to spoil it because it's so good. It's got the guy from Stasky and Hutchinet. Whoa. The original. Ben Stulero. Ben Stulero and Dom. I wasn't a Not in the film.

But I didn't know what you're watching it. I will only watch their films. They're cinematic masterpieces. Wedding crashes? Love it. Right. Story checks out. In 2003 the BBC sponsored a search of the lock using 600 sonar beams and satellite tracking.

The search had sufficient resolution to identify a small boy, the U.O.Y. We found a boy! But they leave him there? No, it's not a monster, leave him. There are some countries pronounce that booey, isn't that way better? Booey? So much booey. Booey. So much booey. Booey.

So fun. Booey. Everyone now. Booey. Everyone now. Booey. Oh. I get you now.

I get you. That is very good. That is very, very good. They found a small booey, but no animal of substantial size was Oh, I get you now, I get you. That is very good. That is very, very good. They found a small bouquet, but no animal of substantial size was found, and despite their high hopes, I can't believe they had high hopes, it actually finds something.

The scientists involved admitted that this proved the Loch Ness Monster was a myth. Searching for the Loch Ness Monster aired on BBC One in 2003, don't watch it, they didn't find anything. Spoilers. Sorry about that. The most recent thing that I found on the Loch Ness month, April 19, 2014, it was reported that a satellite image on Apple Maps, Apple's version of the mapping software.

No, I'm not required, that explanation. If you have an iPhone, it showed what appeared to be a large creature thought to be by some by, sold to be by some to be luck, luckness that was just below the surface of the lock. The locks far north at the locks far north. The image here about 30 meters long. A possible explanation whether the wake of the boats. Oh is that an apple maps burn? That was a good one. It's a fucking map. Wow. For the listener at home. That was if it's if it's apple maps it was probably big bin. I don't think that's what he said. So it could have been Big Ben, it could have been the boat itself.

You're saying Big Ben? Yeah, the Ben industry, you know, Big Ben. Don't fight Big Ben. It's your come up second best. Some people refer to the whole of Scotland as one big Ben. But that is not me. I am a big fan. Big fan. Big fan. Being there three times

so unlike these guys I'm right. Nazi. Yes, the mortal enemy of the scotch. I'm trying to get through it. Possible explanations for this Apple Maps thing where the wake of a boat big bin a seal floating wood or an altar Thank you That is my report on the Loch Ness and now we're gonna go I really thank you so much. So another mystery, we'll never know. Well, I want to go down the line here.

Do you now believe in the Loch Ness Monster or some sort of giant author? I never stopped believing in the author. Never believed in myself. I think it was probably a twink of some kind. Ultimately, maybe it was that boy you talked about earlier. Yeah, so. Hello. Hello.

Hello. Short answer, no. And Matt Stewart, you are. Yeah, I now believe in orders. I do. Interesting. I'll give you random pause if you now believe in the Loch Ness Monster. Big Ben, big Ben believes in.

Be random pause if you don't believe in the Loch Ness Monster. If you want to solve the situation. I'll give you random pause if you don't believe, no, it's not, it's not, sir. A few underserved. Give me your round of applause if you didn't give me your round of applause, either with the first or second option. And a round of applause for the people who didn't give a round of applause then? I can't wait to go to everyone. We're going to go now, everyone.

Everyone's in, everyone's in. The round's evolved, cool. That is my report, thank you so much for... I've got to give a big shout out to the people that suggested this. of the few things that just did was tell me who's just that is your contribution Yes, we should also thank everyone who's come along over the this is the last one of the live pods for now So thanks so much everyone here today for coming along and everyone who's come in the past and Anyone will come in the future. Yes. Anyone who likes coming is all I'm saying. Which I think is most of us.

The Loch Ness Monster was suggested by... There's this regret face. Oh. The regret face, come face, they're all the same. Oh, that is true. So, the Loch Ness once said, we would like to thank you suggested by, on email, a person called Angus, probably a scullish. On Twitter, at Leonard Stales, thank you Leonard, whose real name is Leonard Stales. There you go. He got it. He got it.

At Austin Brackets, also got their name, and also, Callum B. W. Where'd you get Callum B. W? Email. Email. So those are for people. Can we have a big round of applause for our very special guest, Mr. Nick Mason.

I'm here. Today in the win. APPLAUSE Baaaay. Baaaay. Nick Mason, ladies and gentlemen, today in the win! APPLAUSE Boo! Boo! Of course, if you want to hear more of, uh, Mason, every single week, we can check out the weekly Planet Podcast, but who doesn't? It's already so great.

It's so, so great. I would. Who doesn't? Yeah, yeah. Who? That's fine. Yeah, that's what I'll say. Yeah, you should check it out. Is that why you're looking at me just to back you up there? Yeah, Dave is right. You should check out. If you like comic book movies.

Check out the maths you were an episode. Oh yeah, that was fun. I'm so tired. Poor I'll just, we made it. Thank you. Prefer Bob, thank you so much for coming out. We have a big round of applause to Evan on Sound and Craig on camera for you. Thank you so much. But that is the end of our final episode live at the moment.

Thank you so much for coming out. Everyone who has come out will be back in the studio next week. But until next time, we will say... Let's watch the second half downstairs. Good bye! Thank you. We will grab that camera so don't worry, you're not trapped here forever. Alright, Alive, it was only 54 minutes, you caught me, but I hope you did enjoy our final episode recorded there. Live at the Melbourne Comedy Festival. Big, big, big thank you to everyone that came out to our live shows over the last four weeks. We're going to say a big thank you to the Imperial Hotel for hosting us on the Sundays. It was so fantastic. We packed out every single show and when we booked this in, you have to book in stuff in the comedy festival about

six months in advance. When we booked it in, we had no idea it was going to be a terrible mistake and if no one would come and we'd lose lots and lots of money. But you all came out, you supported the show, and we are eternally grateful for that. And to be honest, I had such a good time that I'm looking forward to the next time we can do a live episode. We're thinking of possibly traveling into state in Australia. So if you would like to be the first city that do go on this outside of Melbourne, drop us a line, then all people that tweetedas, or email us about their city, the more likely we are going to be able to make it there. Hopefully we will make it around Australia, that would be so good. First Australia, then

the world. Oh man, it is my secret little dream to goodbye and being able to travel, which I love to do, and also to be able to do the podcast live around the world. So hopefully that can happen one day. But to make these four live episodes possible in Melbourne, we have to thank three people, especially that helped make them and that is everyone who helped with the sound of the last four shows. And that is Evan Monroe Smith, Jeremy Webb and Sam Peterson. Thank you guys so much. You made these episodes possible to be listened to. And as mentioned in this episode we did film it. The video will take us longer to edits together the two cameras and that kind of thing. But keep an eye out on our social media's. Hopefully it will be out sometime pretty

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Thank you, Justin. Here's to you, Mr. Robinson. Jesus loves you more than you will know. Wo-wo-wo-wo. Hey, hey, hey. Yes, the jokes will be pretty obvious this week. I am recording them before I go to work. And there's a thunderstorm outside, so this could be the last of me.

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I'm pretty sure they're Kardashian sisters. Well, Jenna, Jenna sisters, I have not had time to Google that, as I said, thunderstorm waiting, waiting my death. But Kylie and Kendall, Kylie Kendall, now I always, often think about this, you probably could have got, I don't know how old you are Kylie, but you could have gotten to 30 and no one would have ever said anything about your name. And suddenly, these two little teenage girls that are too absolutely nothing have come along. And now that's all you get. I often think about I used to go to school with someone called Rihanna. No one, you know, no one thought that was, you know, it was kind of an interesting name and then the Barbadian singer came along and then suddenly everyone was

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