Two In The Think Tank - 80 - Captain Kidd

Episode Date: May 3, 2017

This week we travel back in time to the 17th Century to discuss Captain William Kidd, who some people say was wrongly accused of being a pirate. We reckon he's pretty pirate-y though. See what you think!Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. See you! Hello and welcome to another episode of DoGo on my name is Dave Warnocky and I'm back in the studio with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins team. So good to be here back in the studio Dave and Jess. Jess, I'm just cana catch up, you know? Away from the prying eyes of all those losers, I mean listeners. It is, it's just the three of us again. Just the three of us.

How do we know when our jokes are bombing? It's the best thing. We can live in blissful ignorance again. Because most of mine, they felt like they did. They felt like they did. I felt like I've been killing this whole episode. It was a very smiley crowd. Yeah.

I mean, they didn't necessarily always come across, but Jesus smiled so hard. God, they did. And those quiet moments, they were grinning big time. They were quiet laughing, it's what they were doing. I felt like our text could have turned up the smile level. Yeah. That's blame the text.

That was them, not us. Yeah, that's definitely them. So if you listened to the episode and thought, I thought your audience didn't like that. No, they did. Did you have a favorite of the live episodes? I think a favorite audience member. Ah, I just got a little name.

Let's go through and name them and rank them. Okay, Karen. No, I'm not. Because I was really mean to Karen. And I hope he knows I was kidding. I thought favorite audience member. Oh, let's go through and name them and rank them. Okay, Karen Because I was really mean to Karen and I hope he knows I was kidding I had to rush off immediately after that show you were kidding. I didn't do a chance Yeah, well, I didn't have to point him out in front of everybody, but I know Karen and I reckon he was like nah, she's all right I think my favorite was maybe your co-cap episode Dave maybe I can't remember them all but sure but I recall that being fun and the Saints won that day. That's what you recall.

Oh yeah there we go. I enjoyed Jess's Bindio and rant on your. I enjoyed that too. Yes that was probably a lot. That felt cathartic. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed becoming one with the crowd. Yeah the first one we joined then that was fun.

So about the Crate wins. Yeah, we mentioned all these moments. We don't want a great time to reminisce. No, we're reminiscing because all you people that somehow don't like live episodes and decided to stick with just studio episodes, we'll talk about how good those live episodes were. So you go back and check them out. Oh smart, smart, smart. I'm the marketing legend. I'm crazy. Crazy to end. So we're back, we're back. And so last week you did listen to the Loch Ness episode.

Jess was supposed to report, got ill. So I jumped in and I did that. So that means Jess it's actually your turn. Yep, I'm taking back the reins. I'm pretty happy about it, I don't have to do anything. I was very, very sick. Yeah. Like I thought I was I'm pretty happy about I was very very sick Yeah, like I thought I was gonna die to be honest I was sitting at my desk and I was like my head was in my hand and I was like I can't move and then Dave came to my rescue

I was like JP Mate I got this and you did the report and I went and had a nap and Matt set up for the live show And I turned up for the last minute. So I still obviously did a great job. I did also say to you that one day and this day may never come. I may come to you with a favor. You're going to give her a favor. You're going to do a favor. Oh no. Hopefully this day never comes and I might do you another favor one day. The reverse Godfather, I already did you a favour and one day I'm going to give you a second favour and you're going to live on the edge. Because I'm a nice guy.

Oh, I must be coming any minute now. No, no, it's very overwhelming. See that free milk in the fridge, that was me. Goodbye, shred out the door. Notice you need a toilet paper when boy's done, boy. That is not kind, that was me. Goodbye! Shred out the door. Notice you need a toilet paper when boy some boy. That is not kind, that is weird. Notice your toilet paper is down and I've been noticing that you're using a lot more than usual is everything okay. What are you eating? Are you getting enough fiber or too much? Let's go through a meal plan. I'm enjoying this direction. Interesting, interesting. Okay, sorry, we've been

rambling enough. Shall we get into the report then? If you have graced us with your listening ears for the first time, the show where we report on a topic, just as Turner's I said, and we get on to that topic with a question, Matt and I don't know what the topic is going to be, so could be anything. Can I also point out that traditionally over the last, I'd say, six months, I have not been writing questions until I get into the studio and I go Fuck because Dave goes we always start with a question and I go fuck. I'm gonna question this time. I have written a question Oh shit, I'm impressed. I am this is growing up. I am a grown up. Yeah, I did it. I did it I mean I can't pay rent but I wrote a question. I think in a lot of ways this is true at old hood. Thank you. Yes. Thank you for

acknowledging that. So my question to you is... Great. She's already laughing. Who is the most misunderstood pirate of the 17th century? Oh no. I think that was a good question. I was going to say, just really you built it up a lot and then that was the question. I mean the only ones I know are the ones with colors in their name. Are they any of them real? Bluebeard, blackbeard, bluebeard? Is bluebeard a thing? No, blackbeard. That's from that red head. Redbeard.

That's matches. Oh. The most misunderstood pirate, I think the most misunderstood pirate could be, well, someone who's not actually a pirate. Correct! Oh! Well, people are... Not a bad Christian Fletcher from the meat, the bounty.

I haven't done a spin-off episode of one of yours, but all enough. To be fair, I hadn't heard of this person. Jonathan Dep. No, it's not Jonathan Dep.pp nor is it Orlando, Bloom. And there's no color in their name? No color in the name. No, it's to that beat in their name. Because that family of beads, they were, a lot of them became pirates.

I think the bead family were big into it. You got a, you, yep. It was the joke over there, Dave. It was going straight to midnight. Is that good? Well what if I'm the best? Alright love show right now silence. The crowd is smiling right now. No I'm standing up and I'm about to go on some.

I'm going to try and win them back with a bit of hand action. I have what? Yes I'm going to give a hand job. I'm going to go a little bit crazy form some sort of lap that that a put on a little show suddenly they think that the it's not about comedy anymore it's now about dance day take future day treetum take it yeah get crash the car beer beer well give myself a soundtrack to crash to Well, I'll give myself a soundtrack to CrashTube. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, is a pretty cool story. So, and 17th century, I mean I know you're really across. That is the golden age of piracy, I will tell you.

Which is what year is that? That is the 1600 to 1699 correct. Correct, correct, correct. I try to fuck it up. Well it might be just 17 anyway, but I had to look it up just to be sure because I've always confused as well that I know you are too. Anyway.

Alright, 21st Century Fox, and that's from now. This is the 2000s. Okay, so you go one back, right? But unless- What's 21st Century Fox? That's the company. 20th Century Fox. Well, it was in the 20th Century century and now it's 21st century Fox

That's embarrassing. Okay. Well, I have that I have that I ask you then if you've ever heard of captain William kid Billy the Kid. Stop, Billy the Kid. Billy the Kid. Billy the Kid. Oh, Billy the Kid. Also, I just wanted, like, I started to read, I was like, this is an interesting story, and then realized I would get

to say Captain Kid a lot, and I enjoyed that. I think I've heard of Captain Kid. Captain Kid. I also just like to imagine like a tiny little, like a toddler in a big captain's hat. And he's like, ah, fire the cadets after nap time. That's where the confusion came from. Where is my blankie?

Because he's a little blankie for his nap. Cadet, this is a kid, Cadet, he's a kid, he's a captain of the ship. Is he any real kid? Any relation to the Milky Bar kid? Yes. Oh, because the milk's on you, Dick. But the Milky Bars are on me.

Which now is a very strange phrase to yell at a milk. The milk's on you dick, but the Milky Bars are on me which now is a very strange face a yell at a milk's on you dick Oh dear remember that no don't at all remember the other Milky Bars are on me I like take out it's that's it's that's it's that thieving dick again Then he take him out and go the milk's you get milk on him somehow You dick is this during our childhood? Oh yeah, this is 90s. Tweet in, I reckon it was, it was big in the US as well. Tweet in, if you remember this ad, to make me look less insane than I already did.

But like, why would they use the name dick of all names you could choose? A little bit of comedy. But that's in a pro-pressed. You think that thebings dick is in a pro-pressed? I think milk's on you, dick. Milk's on you, dick. I don't recall that at all Is it the milk's on your dick? No, you sure Roll back the tape. I will check the milk's on your dick. That's weird

That is weird, though. Anyway, we're taking a really long time to get into the report today captain kid I'm ready. Sorry guys. Well you see it's kind's kind of like we we're rained in for the live episodes and now we've just gone too loose. All right, let's try and focus here boys, okay? I won't, I refuse. All right, well I tried. So this, I should also mention this was suggested, suggested, it's a suggested by Warren at Warhen Studios on Twitter. I think it's actually the 21st century Warhen Studios. The change in their name is like correct. Warhen, tweet in. I think it's actually the 21st century war hands to you. My change of name is like correct. War hand, tweet in.

I think it might be. So Warren. Warren. Well, thank you so much, Warren. Yeah. Thank you. Great suggestion. Well, we'll soon find out.

Well, I'm so excited. What made you pick this one just because you weren't familiar with the name and you said you go with it? Well, the way that he had written it was Captain William Kid and then he brackets unlucky pirate. Oh, that, see, if you're all thinking about trying to get a topic picked from the hat, you've got to start telling it. You really got to start telling it.

Warren has done the hard work, hard work, and the hard words. He's put the hard word on us. No, I did a little bit of a Google and I was like, oh, what's going on here? Oh, that's good. And so, and how here we are. Is this a really bad gamble? Yeah, he's just unlucky. He just keeps stepping on those little black cats.

Yeah, he just stepped on and killed it. Another one! This is terrible. Not again! So yeah, he just keeps stepping on and killing black cats. He stomping cats to death. Realistically, the black cat to the unlucky ones. Aren't they? Yeah, that's true. Anyway. I've got a dispose of another cat body.

Why would be cat cadaver? Okay, so William Kid was born in Dundee in Scotland only 22nd of January 1654. Oh, the 17th century. Yes. Oh, so I get that. You get it. His father was Captain John Kid, but spelled KYD. He was lost at sea during a voyage. So his dad's lost at sea.

Now apparently- But he was also a captain. He was also a captain. Well, I mean, the kid wasn't born a captain. He was just William Kid, K.I. Double Day at this time. Okay I'm interested to know why he changed his name. Will that come out? Maybe it just, they weren't related.

Yeah. It was just coincidental that his dad also was called Kid. Maybe it was pronounced differently. Cod. Mm-hmm, that sounds good. Yeah, yeah it does. Um, the, the, Booey. Oh I, that's. The... Booey. Oh, I, oh, I.

Oh, I, oh, I. Now apparently a local society supported the kid family financially after the death of the father. I don't know what they mean by a local society, but I'm guessing like the community, sort of helped support them. I think I remember at the start of the Birkenwilsing it was the sign, there was like a group but I think maybe that's what it was like there, what was it? It was like the scientific society, the Victoria or some sort of an organization thing. Because the tricky part about this is because it's so far back. Obviously a lot of these, like we don't have a lot of

information about his early life and there are some sort of disputed facts throughout the whole thing but yeah apparently a local society supported them. Now he's origins, so he listed his origins as greenock but they, these origins have been dismissed by David Dobson who was like somebody who was right, researching this, he found neither the name Kid with K.I. Double D or K.Y.D. were listed anywhere in the baptismal records. So he was like, well, I mean, you can't, you can't have been from there. Yeah, unless he was a heathen. Hmm. Heathen child.

The rest, the rest of all cave songs. I was going to say it's a good band name, but Nick Cave got there with a song. Good on you Nick Cave. Or Nick Cave. Nick Cave. Not to be confused with. Not the same. So William Kid later settled in the newly anglicised New York City.

Are you familiar with New York City? Oh, yes. You've heard of it. But one of the very, so pretty young in move there. I think like it doesn't say when, but I would say, oh, it's sort of, I would say in these 20s. Sweet. New York City, David Letterman, 30 Rock, the Nicks, Patrick Ewing, the Babe Ruth,

with the Yankees, the 54th Street, 39th Street, 68th Street. Here we go, stripping everyone 42th Street. 42th Street. The corner of Western America on the mile. The miracle on the river that the mustache man landed on. The river on the Hudson. Hudson. Oh, mustache man, gotcha, okay.

Yeah, burger. What's his name? What? Sully. Sully burger. Where's the burger? Delicious. This is his name, was Sully burger.

Sullen burger. Oh, which it sounds that's the worst description of a burger ever. I'll have a Sullen burger, please. That's all I think that's all I got on New York City. Louis C. Yeah, there we go. He's back. Come on, buddy.

Seller. Chris Rock was there once. Well, there's probably a big thing that's in there, like in the middle of the statuiliabity. Yep. The once. Well that's probably a big thing that's in there like in the middle of the Statue Liberty. Yep. The Grand Zero. Maybe somewhere you could go for a run. The Central Park. There we go. Central Perk. Oh this is good. This is good stuff. Monika. Jack. Ross. Jack. It's straight to Jack. Is Jack, there'd be a Jack?

Rachel. Uh-huh. Blum guy from the coffee shop. Cramer. Cramer. So aren't you? Oh no. I'm gonna be here all day. There's a lot of stuff in New York.

Oh, the architect's hapes to be honest, yeah. And you know one thing that's from there? This kid. Yeah. Is he? Yeah. Yeah. Well that ties in really nicely to all the survivors, you say. So we could, he moved over to New York City and he befriended many prominent colonial citizens, including three governors.

Three? How many governors does the state of New York have? More than three, apparently, because if it was only three, it would probably would have said all three governors. He met all three governors. He met three of four governors. The fourth one had a very busy schedule. And likes to stay inside. It was a bit of a jam if you wouldn't make any time for me. Now, there's some publicised information

that suggests that he was a Siemens apprentice. Apprentice. I mean, he's shit. You're not good at the job yet. He doesn't get paid much yet. On a pirate ship. That was like the milks on his. By 1689, kid.

Well, so he's an apprentice on a pirate ship. Well, he's like an apprentice on it. Yeah, well, that's what some people say, but others. How is this here misunderstood pirate? That's the path that any pirate needs to take. Pirate ship. And the apprentice on it, yeah, well that's what some people say, but others. Right. How is this here misunderstood pirate? That's the path that any pirate needs to take. No, no, no. They've become an apprentice and then they become a pirate.

They do. Pirate, exactly. You do four hours of educational classes a week. Let's show you how to draw a cutless and go. Arr. And then to use later, call it a plumber. Plumber. It's amazing. Every pirate call if I plumber plumber It's amazing every power chip needs a plumber. You're not wrong. It gets backed up back there

I bet it will do it. Where did they go to the I don't want to know anyway? I'm the poop deck In a cannon On the poop deck fire the poop Fire the pool Shat into the can You really want to cover the enemies I mean covered cannonball But how do you get even coverage you got to rotate the cannonballs are you?

One of the worst jobs. What do you think the apprentices are doing on the ship? Rotating the cannonballs while the captains... Because he's panstains, mate. I'm saying job, but job means poo as well. So that worked. The weed job being your job is to do a job. And you scored a job for me. He's got it.

That's why I did it in the sky. It's... And now it makes sense because I've definitely heard Billy Conley talk about a weed job being... We job being a shoe. No, yeah! The sucker. That's right. It's a very funny story. A wee jobbing and a shoe. No, yeah! The sucker.

That's right. It's a very funny story. God, he's a funny man. Offerl. He keeps doing that. Offerl and a wee jobbing and a shoe. Anyway. So, by 1689,

Kid was a member of the French English pirate crew sailing the Caribbean during a voyage of which Kid and other crew members mutinied, asking the captain and sailing to the British colony of Nevis. I won't handle your shit balls anymore. Shit balls. So they got rid of him on the island of. Nevis, do you know where Nevis is?

Yes and kids and nevis is now a West Indian country. Correct. I had a feeling you would but I had it written down anyway but I was like, geography boy is going to know. Caribbean or Caribbean? I would say Caribbean. I had a feeling you would but I had it written down anyway but I was like geography boys gonna know Caribbean or Caribbean I would say Caribbean but I had a lot of respect for anyone who says Caribbean because it sounds so much cooler It's so much cooler Caribbean but we are just not cool. I'm yeah, I'm not sure which is the right way Well, I think it probably depends on your accent. I don't think we're saying it a wrong way. I would say it differently. Different doesn't mean wrong Sometimes I'm positive. I mean, I'm positive.

Sometimes when I'm dead, it is. When one thing is definitely right, then the other way is wrong. But I don't know if that isn't the case in this case. Can I go on? Do you say Caribbean, man? I'm not sure. I've said I'm like, I'm not sure what- You've never said it out loud before.

Yeah. Before did it. I think Pirates are like- Have a go. What are they saying Pirates of the Caribbean? I don't know if anybody says- They say Caribbean. I reckon I thought it was Caribbean until Pirates are the... Have a go. What are they saying Pirates of the Caribbean? I don't know if anybody says... They say Caribbean.

I reckon I thought it was Caribbean until Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah, because I don't start the movie by saying welcome to the sixth installment of Pirates of the Caribbean. I don't think anybody in there says Caribbean. Yeah, I don't think I've never heard people say Pirates of the Caribbean though. Yeah. But if you hit anyone, this is the worst derailing of the show that I've ever been involved in. I've been involved in them all.

Actually true. Oh yeah, you're the only one who has, aren't you? Yes. I believe so. Good for you. Oh, unless you listen to Mesa, who says that the only actual episode is one with him on it. Oh, true. We're only up to four episodes.

Okay, anyway, you've still been on all of them. Yes. Good idea. Do go on. Right, so when they were, they'd park to the ship in Nevis. Wow, you did a lot of research on this. Matt's backing it up. How am I doing back there boys?

He's reverse parallel parking a ship. How much room I got? She pulled a little ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd I'm gonna do it back there boys! He's reverse parallel parking a ship. I must remember my god. She pulled the little dude dude. You got it. You got it. You got it people know. That's the success tape. What's the failure to?

Toot toot toot. The third one. Toot toot. Well, boom. Boom boom boom boom. You're gonna pull three times. So they're parked in the ship. They're parked in the ship.

They parked the ship in Nevis. They renamed the ship Blessed William and kid became Captain. Either as a result of election by the ship's crew or by appointment of Christopher Cordington, who was governor of the island of Nevis at the time. In any case, Captain Kid, who was an experienced leader and sailor by that time, took the Blessed William, or Blessed William, Blessed. And it's true. I reckon Blessed Phil's. Blessed Phil's right. Blessed William. Blessed Caribbean.

And it's true, and became part of Cordington's small fleet that was assembled to defend Nevers from the French, with whom the English were at war. The governor did not pay the sailors for their defensive services, telling them instead to take their pay from the French. They're like, go looting boys. Take your pay, we're not gonna pay you, but go steal some stuff. Correct.

So we could have done that anyway. Yeah. You didn't have to just work all this time for you to tell us that. That's a good point. Can we have a salary as well? Yeah. Whatever we get a salary as well? Yeah. Whatever we get, a bit of a bonus.

Yeah, can we work on a base salary and commission? Yeah. That would be good. I make more sense. I got, I got male-safed, i.e. mine. Kyrton is men that attacked the French island of Marie Galanti, destroying its only town and looting the area and gathering for themselves something around a 2,000 pound sterling. It's all right. I'm getting paid

But that's in 1600 2,000 pound sterling. So I've gotten paid a lot if I Did some looting and walked out with 2,000 pound sterling Australian dollars conversion rate. Let's just save four grand Australian, right? Just for Yeah, I've been pretty fr stoked, and it's not 1689. It isn't. It isn't at the moment though. So, if that money back then must have been a lot was my point.

I think it's millions. Do you reckon? Yeah. It's a lot. That sounds like a lot of money. That's hate. But I don't know how many the crew is. It's probably going to get a share of between 40 people,

but oh, that was an h No, but even millions split by the crew that's still pretty good. Oh, I'd still have that Assuming that our assumption that it's worth millions now Oh, dear, oh, how'd oh cheeky well Well I entirely don't remember that, which is concerning, because it was seconds ago. I'm out of your mouth, Matt. Oh no, it was one of those laughs. Like I mean, I'm gonna say something.

I'm the worst. I'm a bit scared of the year. And I didn't, did I? You didn't at all. No, it was a quite a reason to make. I don't know, I think. Might have had a little stroke. You are at that age. Yes.

It's all the one. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except strokes. Medically inaccurate. So later during the war of the Grand Alliance, also known as the Nine-Year War, guess how long that lasted for? Probably. They're not always... No, they're definitely not. It wasn't known. I'd still guess not because anything else would be a real role with the dice. How you gonna look? Do you know?

No, I've got it. It's nine years. It was actually nine. You were getting your laptop open to check because you didn't believe that I would have... Like, why would I ask a question if I didn't have the answer? Jess, we've already established your terrible asking question. That's a very good point. I'm not a good communicator.

But it was nine years. Nine years. I like when they accurately name it. Me too. It makes way more sense than that. a rock formation in Victoria, not the... I think there are zero, 12 apostles. Yeah, they're definitely all loaded. If anyone's been confused. Someone who's like, hang on a second. Is Peter alive? Not in my world. They're all alive.

In my heart. Oh, boy. Anywho, so later during the 9-year war, they were sent out from the provinces of New York and Massachusetts Bay. Kid captured an enemy privateer off of the New England coast. Now privateer was, this is how it's explained as a private personal ship that engaged in maritime warfare under a commission of war. I've got more about that later.

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at the market. What about the pirate's code? You don't steal another pirate ship. Yeah, but he's not but kid isn't technically a pirate. By the way There just there is no Pirates code. They're fucking pirates. Oh yeah, now I get the joke there. I feel like there'd be a Pirates code Yeah, where it isn't a parlay? Isn't the thing they say there is honor amongst thieves. Yeah Dave. There is no honor amongst thieves. No one ever makes a drive. Well that's the opposite. I've definitely misunderstood that. That has definitely cleared that up then. Now in May of 1691, Kid married Sarah Bradley Cox Utt, 00RT. Kid Cox. Cox Kids. Um, I'm just half an eight. Oh, okay, give me another name. She was an English woman in her early 20s

who had already been twice widowed and was one of the wealthiest women in New York, largely because of her inheritance from her first husband. Oh, you killed. She's widowed twice in her early 20s. Yeah, marrying like eight-year-old oil tycoon, or something? I reckon she's got a poison poose. Hahaha.

Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. The best part for me was the regret face. Yeah, it was like- Oh, you make that same face after you. Poisoned in gauge. Yeah. Oh, that's okay. It was like, I make that same phase after you. Poisoned in games. This is like a...

Oh, it's like a... I don't know about that. Yeah. That's... I knew it was either funny or awful. Or both. Well, sometimes they can be both. I'm in the both camp.

No, I thought it was pretty funny. So yeah, he's married now. So the poison pus? So he's married to the poison pus. The PP, let's call her. No, I would really rather not. She's a person. Let's just pus. So he's married to the poison pus. The P.P. that's called her. No, I would really rather not. She's a person. Let's just call her Sarah.

All right. P.P. Person with the poison pus. Happy? I didn't have to ask. Compromise. So triple P's married. L. Man captain.

Kid. I don't know about that. Okay. Yes, that happened, right? And so that was just a little side note. You got married. Anyway, in 1695 And so that was just a little side note, you got married. Anyway, in 1695, so that was a couple of years later, he got married in 91, so a few years later in 95.

He's really hanging on. Then? Well, obviously they haven't. Oh. In a consternated. In a consternated manner. She's still alive. She's still alive, and she's like, what's wrong with this guy?

Yeah, why would he? No, I'm not going there he might have no the dick antidote I've finally met my match and that's why they call him captain kid he was the first superhero there's nothing to do with his shipping so 95 William III of England appointed Richard Koot who was a first Earl of Belmont as the governor in place of the corrupt Benjamin Fletcher who was known for accepting bribes to allow illegal trading of pirate loot. So many fun words in this. Loot is so fun. And also some great names. So Richard Koot said no to loot. Is that how you remember one of those things to remember in forever?

Yes. So when you're doing an exam on this, Richard Koot said no to loot. Bang, a lock it in. Lock it in. The question was, who said no to loot? I think I know this. Meanwhile in New York City, kid was an active in building of the Trinity Church in New York, quite a famous church. It's located active in building of the Trinity Church in New York, quite a famous church. It's located near the intersection of Wall Street and Broadway. It was one of the few things I met. 42 streets. The mat didn't mention it was Trinity Church. Yeah, mat. I

was look out if you'd let me finish the list. I know. We just couldn't let you go on. I mean, the show is not all about lists. No, Jack was much more important. Jack and Rachel. Yes, she might. So that was, that was when Richard Cook was appointed. And then in December of that same year in 95, Belmont was governing New York. And he asked the trusty and well-beloved captain kid to attack Thomas II, John Ireland, Thomas Wake, William Mays, and all others who associated themselves with pirates along with any enemy French ships.

So he's like, you go out, get these boys. Why are you gonna take on a lot of people? And some French. If you see any French or any of these guys, get them. That was his mission, if he chose to accept it. Did he? Yes, he chose. It would have been viewed as disloyalty to the crown to turn down this request Which would have had like a quite a negative social stigma and it made it so that kind of made it difficult for him to say no

So he was like yeah No probs. Yeah, I'd love to thank you so much for the opportunity Wow, I'd love to kill John Ireland. Yeah, I hate that guy So which confusing enough is also the name of an island in the Caribbean. So, John Island. Which one do you want me to take out? Four fits of the cost for the venture was paid for by noble lords who were among the most powerful men in England. They have some great names as well. We've got the Earl of Orphid, the Baron of Romney, the Duke of Schoesbury. Please sound made up and they say that. And Sir John Summers. Oh, John. So sorry, you didn't get an Earl or a Baron or a Duke, you're just a Sir, you're fucking a sir higher than those lower different different just different

There's no wrong answer. It's not all about ranking, you know Sometimes people just want to be friends with a funny name at the start of their name Yeah, preferably but Earl is it's the coolest sounding but I don't think it says is it? I have no idea. I think there is a ranking like in that the King or. Yeah. Like I think they hand out those souls, don't they? And I think there is a ranking. Oh, definitely. I've only done it. Oh yeah.

I can't remember. Baron's like pretty, that's basic bitch, I think. I remember learning about this one, wherein time is Carmen San Diego. And now I can't for the life of me remember the order. But I thank God for that game every day. I learned so much. Have they made a movie or something about that? God, I thank God for that game every day. I learned so much. Have they made any movie or something about that?

God I wish. I hope. I reckon I read something about it recently when the world's calm in San Diego being made into something. Excellent. Maybe a new game. Eva Longoria plays her. Or Sophia Vergara. Or Jess Perkins. It's gonna say you could do it.

Thank you. Do you really believe that? Yeah. Don't lie to me. Yeah seriously Totally she's pretty looking back she was probably a 20 something Woman coming on that I'm that I'm that you are I'm 20 something. Yeah Oh my goodness. I think you're a lot more 20 something than even long-garring or I think you're a lot more 20 something than even long-goring or the um... Yep, and also your... So fever-gum. You could easily get lost in the world.

Your geography is terrible. It's so bad. So you'd be great. I'd be great at it. The being lost. Yeah. Having to be found. Yes, but she's no, she's being like hunted, not rescued.

Like, yeah, she's a baddie. Anyway, guys, focus. So, we're in the world's calm in San Diego. No, we had the Baron and the Serra and the John. So they've all put it in the John. The Serra and the John, two of them go. Thank you, sir. Thank you, John. He's like, Earl, Baron, sir, John. John Erl, Baron, Sir, John

John's like fuck off, I'm a doctor I was a toilet So all of these people have put in money to get this venture out to see? You do say four fifths, but haven't the fifths I can't get to it Four fifths, the amount that you have to pay for dirty elves clothing tipsy elves Yeah, that's what a man. I got a little quirky nickname for him. You dirty elves. You dirty elves with your great clothing Dave's giving me the

Really I okay We saved it. You sure that's not called the really good signal Let's describe it with a thumb and your index finger. Yeah, and the other three fingers sort of flare out flare out Flare out is such a no. I don't think it's ever been described so nicely. It's a bit like a magic flare The pistol at the start of James Bond where he walks in and you're gonna shoot bond Oh, yeah, make that simple with your hand and then let your other three fingers flare What oh yeah, and you got yourselves you got yourselves the good symbol you went from going

What that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard to, I completely understand and that is correct. But then I reckon about three-fifths of a second. Park four-fifths. You idiot. Guys, okay. Focus. Ready? Okay. So, kid was presented with a letter of mark? Would it be?

M-A-R-Q-U-E? Mark. Yeah. What else could it be? It seems like Mark. Yeah, you have could it be? It seems like Mark. Yeah, you have the Marcus. Yes. Yes.

It was letter of Mark and it was signed personally by King William III of England. In the days, I'll tell you what it is because I know that's the question you're gonna ask. Does anyone know King William III? I fascinated by these old Kings and Queens. I don't know anything about it. He sounds like one that was not very special.

And he wasn't, that's why none of us remember him. Probably. Please do go on. I don't know anything about King William III. Do you know if you're able to top of your head? I don't think I know. But there's so many of them. What? No.

And this is the 17th century. There was a Shakespeare play about Richard III, right? Correct. I almost got excited. Third, let's work back to the other part of that. Oh no. No, wrong one. Are you working way too hard for way too little?

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They're licensed to pirate, basically. And they're still pirates, but they're like licensed, they're like legal pirates, they're like good pirates. They've done their tape course, they've got the diploma, they've done their apprenticeship and now they've got the letter of mark. Yeah, they've got the letter of mark and it means you can go pirate, but you know, like in a safe and legal way. Fuck you.

I don't know. It feels like an oxymoron legal pirate. It definitely is. It's so weird. They're like licensed pirates. I was going to sneeze and I didn't. Just for those at home, I wanted to be kept up to them. It was like, what was that weird inhale there?

Just me having a little spasm. Anyway, so the letter was over 10% of the loot for the crown and Henry Gilbert, the book of pirates, such what a legend for writing that book, the book of pirates. In his book he suggests that the king may have fronted some of the money for the voyage himself and apparently kid and he's a coin-tent's kernel, Robert Livingston orchestrated the whole plan and paid for the rest. Kidder actually had to sell one of the ships that he had to um to help fund this quest, yes. I'm so sorry. You Google didn't you? I was thinking the whole time. You piece of shit. One of the will you fucking is William of Orange and it is William the third! Okay great. Do you feel good about yourself too? Oh yeah.

I wish I'd said something and I would look so. Oliver. Orange is in the Australian town. Yeah, that's right. He came from the Australian town of Orange. Cool. That's fun. That's where the big Elvis competition is.

In Orange? Yeah, I think it is. Big Elvis, well the Elvis look like, because they want to have a big old festival. The biggest Elvis festival in the world. I think it's in orange. If you're wrong, the people of orange are going to be outraged. Or?

Or pleasantly surprised. Pleasantly surprised, they didn't know that was. They didn't know that was. Okay, so they've got their new ship now. It's all paid for, and the ship is paid. Well, you're a method. Okay, well, they're in my variant. Okay, well, he paid a bit, mate. bit mate alright kid also sold a ship for this one

So the new ship was called adventure galley And it was well suited to the task of catching pirates it weighed over 284 tons and it was equipped with 34 cannons It had oars and there was 150 men on board. Now the oars were a key advantage as they enabled Adventure Galley to maneuver in battle when the winds had calmed and other ships were dead in the water. They could just be like, oh, let's keep moving and they could, because they had oars. Isn't that feel like quite a basic feature that probably they all should have had?

Alright, Dave, well you go back to the late 1600s and maybe suggest that. Imagine having it. It's sort of like saying every car should have hated seats. Like fuck you. You affluent East, little prick. Right, Matt? Yeah. Does every car not have hated seats?

No, you're princess. Show me one that doesn't. Mine. Also yours. Yeah, it doesn't fuck at all. I hope, but then, so they're turning a ship into a robot. What a pain in the ass. That must have been how big must they all be? I think I'll see like the Viking big ships. Oh yeah. Big oars mate. Yeah right. They're not like a little robot wars. That would suck. Yeah, would but there's 150 of them so hopefully quite a few of them

would be having a row. Yeah. Anyway, this is fun. This is a fun little party. OK, so he, kid took pride in personally selecting the crew and he chose only those who he deemed to be the best and most loyal officers. This is a little except. I don't know who wrote this, but it's bloody great. So as the adventure galley sailed down the Thames,

oh, that's right. He said it right. He nailed it. He even practiced in front of the mirror. Oh, I just like I saw it, and I went with my gut, and I did it right. You nailed it. You even practicing in front of the mirror. I just like I saw it and I went with my gut and I did it right. Thank God. So I sailed down the Thames. Kid unaccountably failed to salute a Navy yacht as custom dictated. The Navy yacht then fired a shot to make him show respect and Kid's crew responded with an astounding display of... you fuck Fuck I could never say this

Okay, basically they they I'm so keen to hear what that word is. I'll just show you in a sec Responded within a standing display by turning and slapping their back sides in disdain So they moond them and slapped their own bum. That is awesome And that's and these bombs were handpicked remember That is awesome and these bombs were handpicked. Remember? He had hands picked the bombs. Before this war, till the kid was handpicking their bombs.

Yeah, that's a good one. Well, you've done well in this interview, but I need you to turn around and now show me your bottom. Go on. Do it. Do it with nothing. You could get this job, but remember, we're not paid, but we might get some loot.

Oh no. You will have to do some big growing. Yeah, there's a lot of big growing. Now because of kids refusal to salute the Navy vessels, Captain retaliated by pressing much of kids crew into naval service. So he's like, all right, fine, well you're all in the Navy now. How did that happen? He does yell that out, fight. You're in the name of it now! They're like, ah, shit. Checkmate. So this left kid with, like, less crew.

That's so weird. He just took some of them off the boat. Yeah, so then he sailed to New York and captured a French vessel on route, as you do. Now to make up for the lack of officers, kid picked up replacement crew in New York and the vast majority were known and hardened criminals. They had hard enough.

They had hard enough. Lots of scot. I got too excited about it. I say the same thing they did. No, just the right amount. I slapped your leg and like, recoiled and discussed an excitement. That was a big moment. A big moment for us, well, so anyway, we're hardened crooks.

Some of them undoubtedly form a pirate. Amongst kids' offices was his quartermaster, Hendrick van der Heule. Now, the quartermaster was considered like a second in command to the captain. And van der Heule is also noteworthy because he may have been African or of African descent. And if that's true, if he was of African ancestry, this fact would make him the highest ranking African, like African pirate so far identified. Oh, which is kind of cool. Yeah, just a little fun fact. I want his name. Hendrick, Van, Hendrick Van De Hewall. It's a good name. So a name. It's a very good name.

Very good name. In September of 1696, I want to say 19, 1696, kid Wade anchor and set course for the Cape of Good Hope. A third of his crew perished due to an outbreak of cholera, and the brand new ship developed many leaks, and he failed to find the pirates, and he'd expected to encounter a madagascar. He said he failed to find the leaks. Where are they? Put some duct tape over it. But he couldn't find any of the pirates. Well, he's like, surely there's gonna be pirates off Madagascar, so that's where he headed and they weren't any there.

As it became obvious that he's ambitious enterprise was new. You know who isn't Madagascar? Some of the members of the New York City Zoo. Correct. Very good. One of them played by... Friend Star. Mm-hmm. I'm not helping you here. Who played? Give me the character at least. Uh, Chandler Bing.

No. I know. No. Uh, uh, he also played. I am not doing the okay symbol right now. He's in the but he's in the OJ Simpson movie Yeah, he's in this podcast about army stuff What's his fucking name David David swimmer there we go which should be handy in a in a in a seat up Trim just sure. Release the swimmer.

So as it became obvious that this expedition was failing, kid became desperate to cover its costs. But once again, he failed to attack several ships when given a chance, including a Dutchman and a New York privateer. Now, some of the crew deserted kid, the next time the adventure galley, Ankit offshore,

and those who decided to stay on made constant, open threats of mutiny. You're dead kids. I mean, I'm getting back on the ship, but I'm not happy about it. On the way back in. Well, man. Every time he's like, Hey guys, I just wanted to,

I was just wondering if, if anybody wanted to, maybe give me a hand in sweeping the poop deck, and he's like, hey guys, I just wonder if anybody wanted to maybe give me a hand in the sweep in the poop deck I'm like, oh, how about a mutiny? How's that said? Is that said? Oh no, I asked weep it. I'll sweep it myself. Well, I'll lift a sweep. Yeah, great Okay, have a good weekend. Yeah, bye. That's how it went. That's how it went down And then when they leave he's like, yeah, you better believe I'm still the boss. Yeah, he's like, got him. I showed them. Fuck yeah, got you. Because he's cool.

Anyway, so that was, yeah, that was that happening. And then on the 30th of October in 1697, kids gunner, will you more was on deck sharpening a chisel? Oh no, this is not sounding good. When a Dutch ship appeared, Ah, on the horizon, a Dutch ship, they would have said. Well, sharpening in Chisel, though, with that casual about it. Ah, a Dutch ship. Hmm, it's interesting. Can't do that. More urged kids to attack the Dutchman. An act not only, a pyrratical. Wow, that is a sick word.

Pyrrady. I reckon you've coined it yourself, climate. Pyrraticical. Wow, that is a sick word. Pyrrady. It sounds like you've coined it yourself climate. Pyrractical. But also certain to anger the Dutch-born King William. So he's like, no, I'm not going to attack. William of Orange. There it is. He's a Dutch guy. How are they calling that? We don't have orange. We don't have an issue with the Dutch. So no, I'm not going to attack the Dutch ship. It's what he was saying that's just still a very orange right all their sports teams are orange Mm-hmm, or the Netherlands Thank you for that. I didn't know I didn't know that was what the orange thing was about so orange way back You think I have one of the

Orange just Landscapes What is the orange connect to? I think feels like a like a national color What is the orange connect to? I think it feels like a national color. Just like we've got bloody green and gold baby. By the way Matt, the Elvis Festival, it's in parks. That's what I said.

Parks also home to the- Very close to orange. With light dish. With William of parks. Oh, that's who you were thinking of. I'll see. Are you now looking up why orange is, why can't you just let things go? We live in an age where you can think of something

Yeah, I know that but I've thought of something and written a report on it And you don't need to be googling things a little respect during my Is orange I want to know yeah to quick look it up. All right. Everyone have a quick phone break But Jess you can't go in with the report. Okay, so but this is an interesting part of the report. Oh, I'm listening. It sounds good, so the chisel is out. Chisel's out and he said, Cap, we should attack that ship. Hey Cap, what are you reckon?

I'm a Cap kid. And kid refused. He's like, no, he calls more a lousy dog. No, you're lousy dog. Well, I mean, he's a lousy dog because he's not a dog, yeah? Yeah, he's not good at being a dog at all. He's such a shit dog, he's not even a dog. Well, I mean he's a lousy dog because he's not a dog, yeah? Yeah, he's not good at being a dog at all He's such a shit dog. He's not even a dog Now more retorted if I'm a lousy dog you have made me so you've brought me to ruin and many more

But is almost akin to I know you are but what am I? As party speak I've looked up the distance between orange and parks So you'll understand why I thought that it might have been the same place. There are only a hundred kilometers from each other I was at all Which is small and in such a big country Dave now I want to know what orange before I tell you the the exciting part of this story that you two Exactly 100 kilometers Can you believe that yeah? I can because I live in Australia. I know how is that? I don't have no idea if that's that's not that far as well. That far.

100 case. Did I remember that? Do that in an hour if you were traveling in 100k an hour. Correct. You would. Yeah. But I imagine like you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to drive 100k straight out of your driveway. You know, aren't you? You see there's a couple of 50 zones. A lot of your driveway. You know, Orange, so let's see. You're so hot in the honey. Let's see if there's a couple of 50 zones along the way. I think I got a couple of traffic lights.

But in Nanny's stay up there. I think what? And then once you get out of the body, right? Yeah. You know, I'm trying, you might even get a hundred tainted some parts. Yeah, that's true. And that way, actually, you know.

Well, I cover the driveway. Dave, have you figured out why Orange is the color of the Netherlands? That way actually covers off the driveway. Oh, he did. Oh, he did. Oh, he did. Dave, have you figured out why orange is the color of the Netherlands? So the, well, one reason is that the house of Orange Nassau is like the house of the royal family. Right. But we don't know. Yeah, I'm just curious as to why it became that.

But we made but we can find that out in a future episode. Yeah. I wonder why, yeah, it must be something. But it could be just a family name. Yeah, I think it's a family name, for example, like, you know, the house of Windsor. Right. And it just coincidentally also was a color. Or they invented the color orange.

They're like, we've got a whole bunch of yellow, we've got a whole bunch of red, let's find out. Let's find out. Okay, so we're all satisfied with how to Google, we're all happy now. I want your red, let's find out. Let's find out. Okay, so we're all satisfied. We all had a Google, we're all happy now. I think we're close. I'm happy. I reckon I'm all ears.

Are you? Forget Dave. It's all from, look, Google Feather, it's just the house of our engines. That's it. What was happening then? So we had the Lazy Dog. Lazy Dog, he's got a chisel which I think is important

He said hey cap. Let's attack those orange bastards on the horizon and cap has said shut up you load dog. I'll do what I want Correct, right? I'm here applied Chisel is on the phone. You're really? Yoda? Raggy? Dog! I thought it was Yoda was on the ship. No, he's trying to be a dog saying meet and meet. Mutiny, we short.

Shut up, dog. You're a lousy dog. That's not a bad Yoda. You're a pretty good Yoda. If I was you, I'd swap impressions. Yeah, I'll swap telling people it's a dog. It just says, you can sort of the same thing. I can, but just...

You're on the right track. I'm doing a Yoda impression. Anyway, so he says, I know you are, but what am I? And then kid just picks up and heaved an iron bound bucket at more and more fell to the dick with a fractured skull and died the following day. Fuck yeah, checkmate, you do not challenge me, dog. Now 17th century English, um, add morality law, allowed captains great leeway in using violence against their crew.

But outright murder was not permitted. I mean so much. It's a great choice. Okay, okay, we'll turn a blind eye to a lot of things, but you can't bloody murder him. I mean, yeah, outright murder, do you think throwing a bucket at someone is outright murder? That feels like an unlucky pirate to me. Mmm. That's where it comes from, I think.

It sounds like a bit of an accident. He was just trying to play fetch with the lousy dog. He was just trying to, like, he was just... He kept this bucket. Oh shoot. He was just gonna hurt him a little bit yeah he fell on it the odds of throwing a bucket at someone and killing them feel very remote yeah I grade and after all he had a chisel so he could have he was coming at him self-defense he's off yeah they can hate David Swimmer got him off again okay well

he apparently he apparently kid wasn't all that concerned about it Because he is a bucket don't fit you must a quick If you buck it Yeah, you must a quit look. I should have stuck with my original much catch your phrase Well, I thought you were gonna say there like um, uh, the guy who was murdered, he didn't really mind. No, he mind, he was dead. He mind.

Oh, he mind. Oh, he mind. Who's a he minded? That's right, isn't it? He might, he might. He might. He might. Man big term.

There's now a mound in his skull. Oh, he might. Well, there's a mound of dead on top of him because he's buried some like as he. Oh yeah. That's awful. It's probably throwing me over the wall to be honest. Yeah probably right. Which is a nice way to go. More environmentally friendly. Yeah exactly right. And then fish food. He'd be swimming with the fishes. Swimmer with the fishes. Anyway yeah so that's the happening. So the sentence was that he doesn't mind. He wasn't too concerned about it because, and he said to somebody else that he had good friends in England that will bring me off for that.

So that's all good, Loya. I've got a great, Loya. He's like, yeah, I got connections. I'm not going to get in trouble for this. And then we sort of get into the section of that. It's about some accusations that were made of piracy about him. about some accusations that were made of piracy about him. So at this stage, keep in mind that he's a license pirate. But he's failing though, is that right? No, he's doing fine. He's just, his crew don't like him. But some of them have died at Dysentory and they haven't found the guys as supposed to get. They had cholera. It's different.

It's fine. And it's not that they were, yeah, they were just supposed to go out and just hunt pirates and the pirates were gonna be sneaky. You know, like he was still doing his job and he was still a license, my point is that he's a license pirate, but people are starting to make accusations of him being a naughty pirate. He's enough to license pirate, he's a naughty pirate. He's one of the naughty ones. Hey you guys can I ask you something earlier in the episode? Yes. I used the term basic bitch. Yes. You guys didn't pull me up on it. Does that mean I used it correctly? Look, I'm not sure. I have no recollection. I'll probably do the Ling William of Orange.

You were talking about a being a baron as a basic bitch. I've just I thought if you think you had at this whole time not the whole time I'm like didn't get away with that. I don't know if you got away with it. But then I was remembering that this is all being recorded so maybe I haven't got away with it at all. Not at all. And someone's hearing a cheesy does not know what that means. No I don't I'm I've got some lawyers in England.

Like I could probably get you off this. They could bring me off for this which just sounds like a hand job again. Everything comes back to a hand job with this episode, as it should. I'm bringing you off. And then we're going to look at fighting those charred. What a night. Axe of savagery? Which is also a, uh, there's, uh, something a, uh, a ranker king can give to you.

Axe of savagery on Kids Part, we're reported by escaped prisoners who told stories of being hoisted up by the arms and beaten with a drawn cutlass. So like a cutlass is a sword, right? So if you're being beaten with a sword, is that just a stabbing? I've got to know how you can beat someone with a sword. Hiya! You're using it wrong. Stabbing I gotta know how you can bait someone with the sword. I yeah Using it wrong like the flat edge of it just like slapping it with it a bit I'm not you just look at someone be like you're the worst fucking part of ever seen. Yeah, much better be do this. Yeah Okay

They die much quicker this way No, there's not just really just slapping him. He's like turkey slapping No, I'm pretty sure, there's not just really, there's just slapping him. He's like turkey slapping with his sword. Ha ha! I'd say turkey slapping with his sword. That's not good at all. Stand by what I said. No, I don't stand by what he said. So anyway, yeah, he's hitting him with his cutlass, apparently. And he was also declared a pirate very early in his voyage by a royal navy officer,

to whom he'd promised 30 men or so. Apparently kids sailed away during the night to preserve his crew rather than subject them to the Navy. So again it was that situation where they were just going to take them and put them in the Navy and he was like, yeah great, you know like 30 of my boys. Run, run, stop the boat. But you can't like, it's no, it doesn't have an edge. They can't run anywhere either. They're rowing very quietly. They run into the water. Shit. This has not worked out how I imagined.

Not smart. Everyone's in trouble apart from David Schwema. To Schwem. Now, I looked up how to pronounce this and I've already forgotten how to. So I'm probably going to do it wrong. But on the 30th of January in 1698, he took his greatest prize,

which was the 400 ton quader merchant, definitely wrong. It was in an Indian ship hired by an Armenian merchant that was loaded with satin, gold, silver, an incredible variety of East Indian merchandise, as well as extremely valuable silks. The captain was an Englishman named Wright who had purchased passes from the French, sorry, from the French East India Company promising him the protection of the French crown.

After realizing the captain was, a captain of the vessel was English, kid tried to persuade his crew to return the ship to its owner, because he's like, oh no, that's okay. He's like one of us or he's fine. But then they refused claiming that their Pray which is a weird word was perfectly legal

Because kid was commissioned to take French ships and this ship Counted as French if it had French passes. So they're like well, it's French so we can take it That's a real loophole big loophole This part's a way smarter than I imagined they were but also I like that kids like guys come on. Hey how that we did now let them go. Is English? Give him the keys. Come on that's enough and then they're like no no we're taking it. No come on guys. Hey. Sorry I turkey stuffed you with my sword. Hey. Just give you the keys where you just forget about it. It's like a mum pleading with her like she's got triplet boys who are just little shits. There's like, come, come on, Tyson, get down from,

while you're on the bench again, get down. Hey, you know, it's like that, that's how I'm about you. Stop stealing that shit, Tyson. Stop stealing that shit, Tyson. Stop hitting your brother. What are the other triplets name? Gary. Oh yeah?

Kevin. Oh, they really ran out of a steam there. Yep. Wait so you're happy with Tyson and Gary and then to you Kevin is running out of steam. Jesus I had momentum up. Early. Oh what? Tyson wow Gary yes. Kevin oh no no no. Wow Tyson wow original He's stealing ships and his name's Tyson wow see that coming So in an attempt to maintain his tenuous control over his crew kid gave in and he kept the ship And when the news of this reached England it confirmed kids reputation as a pirate. Various naval commanders were ordered to pursue and seize the said kid and his accomplices for the notorious piracies they had committed.

So them taking on a ship that was captain by an Englishman who's like one of them, the navy were like, now you're officially a bad boy and not one of the cool bad boys, not like Hollywood's bad boys, just an a bad boy and not one of the cool bad boys not like Hollywood's bad boys Just an actual bad boy Who a Hollywood's bad boys. Okay, Jody Depp Robert Danny Jr. in New Australia. Yeah, and the drugs on the trucks Robert Danny Jr. because of the drugs right

Bad boys Joaquin Phoenix Right bad. He's Mel Gibson because of the many slurs. Russell Crowe, because of the phone throwing. Oh, yes. That was a good one. Bad boys, bad boys. Oh, you're good. Will Smith. Yeah, yeah.

Martin Lawrence. They are literally Hollywood bad boys. And bad boys too. I like bad boys too, better to be honest. Oh, back in the habit. You that again? Bad boys Oh, back in the habit. You that again? Bad boys too, back in the habit. Okay, so, he, kid kept the French passes

from the ship that they had taken over, because he thought, he kind of thought that would, if anybody questioned him as to why he'd taken a gig, he'd be like, oh no, that French pass is their French. And then everybody would be like, oh, that's okay. Then you're not a bad pirate, you're a good license pirate. So he held onto those and he renamed the ship Adventure Prize and he set sail for Madagascar.

So. I love the idea of all this ship, Rena. Do they have like a ceremony? Who comes down to here, I've decided to call it. Adventure Bra! Oh he just sent out a newsletter around the ship or like... They all read and go. Guys, guys, just put your breakfast down for a sec. Okay, quick, few quick things.

Number one, Johnson's birthday. Happy birthday, or will I have cake after breakfast? Number two. You can stab with cutlaces. Whose turn was it to sweep the poop deck because I have done it eight times as 150 hours on here. I Come on guys, we're gonna shut a little bit. Oh Yeah, we're all dude again. I'm just saying a little bit of help would be nice Anyway, thank you, and thirdly I've changed the name of the ship. No, I stopped groaning. It's fine

I know the other one was too hard to pronounce for a girl in Thirdly, I've changed the name of the ship. Nice stop-groding, it's fine. No, no, no. The other one was too hard to pronounce. For a girl in 400 years' time to pronounce, or on a podcast, we'll figure out a podcast so to learn. I'll start groaning because I've got to get a new tattoo. Oh, fucking hell. I wonder if they voted for it, you know, or did he just decide?

Right, we've got two finalists, Adventure Land, and Tyson. Wanna, who thought of that one. Good one, Tyson. Good, good, Camino. Compromise. Adventure prize. Tyson? Good.

Tyson it is. He says yes. He says yes. Tyson says yes. He's the boat now. Everyone in Tyson. Everyone here on Tyson. I'm going to sweep his poop deck. Then we'll jump in. Everyone here on Tyson. I'm gonna sweep his poop deck.

Then we'll jump in. All aboard. Anyway, so they headed for Madagascar and they got there in April of 98. And here, he found the first part of his voyage, Robert Colourford. Does that name ring a bell at all? Yeah, the dirty dog. He stole his ship years before. And he was a board, he's a boat, which was called Mocker, Frigate, Frigate, Mocker.

Anyway, she called Tyson. She called Tyson. There's two contradictory accounts of what happened here. According to the general history of the Pirates, which is a fantastic book that was published more than 25 years after the event Kierde apparently made That was quite peaceful and they had they had drinks and they're like, hey, where buddy is woo Right, it was all fine. Another account appears to be based on the testimony of a couple of kids crewman and it says that

He he didn't know that Kulourford only had about 20 crew with him and so he sort of felt like they were ill-manned and ill-equipped to take on the ship so they waited until there are other two ships in their fleet arrived waited for reinforcements and then they attacked? Then they attacked Colourford? Yes, yep. But then he's crewed despite their previous eagerness to seize any available prize, they refuse to attack Colford and threatened instead to shoot kid.

So it's a mess. So it could be either, you see, they're a party. Yeah. Or not a party at all. Not a party at all. Okay. Very strange. Now both accounts, so depending on which store you go for, both accounts, so do agree,

that most of kids men now abandoned him for colourful. Only 13 remained with Adventure Galley, which is the main ship. Drinking Tyson left? I definitely Tyson, any chance to jump ship or jump Tyson, I should say. Fah! Anyway.

Deciding to return home, kids left the adventure galley behind, ordering her to be burnt because she'd become worm eaten and leaky. No, that's no reason to set fire to her. Um, before burning the ship, he was able to salvage every last scrap of metal, such as hinges. Gotta get in, get all those hinges. Get all the doors off. Do they have doors, Dracon? Well, what else would they be hinges on? Windows, there it is.

Sorry. One of those window hinges. With the Royal... No, the loyal remnant of his crew, he returned to the Caribbean, aboard the Adventure Prize, so they're hitting, they're hitting in. So did he not just burn that ship? No, they burnt adventure galley, the first ship. Oh, sorry, sorry.

They still have adventure prize. So that's where it, that's where it is. How did they capture the hinges? How the might he have fallen? Yeah. They once had 2,000 pounds in sterling and ethnic hitting. Grab the hinges. Get them.

Oh, shit. Now prior to returning to New York City, Kidloent that he was a wanted pirate and that several English men of war were searching for him. Realizing that Adventure Prize was a marked vessel, he ditched it in the Caribbean and continued towards New York aboard a slupe. I looked up a slupe.

It's just like a small ship. There's another boat. I don't know where he got it, but a slupe. It's got a slupe. He deposited some of his treasure on Gardeners Island, hoping to use his knowledge of its location as a bargaining tool. Like if anybody comes out and he'd be like,

well, I know where his treasure. I know where the hinges are. I know, I know where the hinges are. There's at least 36 hinges. That's not murder me. That would work. I'm worth more to your life. Now, Belomont, who was an investor in the original journey, he was away in Boston and aware

of the accusations against kid, he was quite afraid of being implicated in piracy himself and knew that presenting kid to England in chains was his best chance to save himself. So he lured kid into Boston with false promises of clemency and then ordered him arrested on the 6th of July 1699. He was placed so kid was placed in stone prison spending most of the time there in solitary confinement. His wife Sarah or triple P's you like to call her. Hey, as history likes to call her. She was also imprisoned. So triple P's in pea. Yeah, she's called triple peck. Thank you. Has anyone else going to excited about

the turn of the century coming up? Every time you say, yeah, look, it's so close to 17. Oh, there will be the 18th century. It's so exciting. Will he live to see the day? The conditions of kids in prison were extremely harsh and appeared to have driven him at least temporarily in saying, just had a bout of insanity as we all do. By then Belomont had turned against kid and other pirates, writing that the inhabitants of Long Island were a lawless and unruly people protecting pirates who had settled among them. So

after over a year kid was sent to England for questioning by Parliament. And they found him, I like they say, they found him politically useless. So the two sides of government were sort of trying to see how they could use this to their benefit, but there wasn't really a way to like, to use it. So instead, they just made him stand trial before the high court. And for charges of piracy on high seas and for the murder of William Moore. I mean it's just like you threw a bucket. Oh the bucket guy. Bucket guy was another William Moore. He had a body chisel. Now whilst awaiting trial, kid was confined in the infamous Newgate prison and wrote several letters to King William requesting clemency just like, hey Will, Will again. Quick thing. William requesting Clemencey. Just like, hey Will, will again. Quick thing. How are you? So, not to be rude. How are you? You well. I'm good. Thank you for asking. I assume you

did. Hey, quick thing. Clemencey. Circle while in. Where are we out of that? I mean, I'm the color thing. Can I have it? Please. If I can have it, I love't know a little bit of quality. I don't see if God any spare. God no work losses. I don't know why. Anyway, I could use something. Saddest thing was the King couldn't read. Completely waste time. He was Dutch. Can't read notoriously. Anti-readers. Anti-readers. They hate it. Now, Kid had two lawyers to assist in his defense. He was Shoxelun at his trial that he was charged with murder. He did not know that he was being charged with me. He's like, what? These lawyers sound pretty bad.

They've canceled him. They've never even said what the charge is. He's thinking that it's theft or something. And he walks in. Murder! David Schwimmer didn't say anything about this. Yeah, no. He was like, oh, murder what?

But, yeah, dude, you murdered someone. And he was found guilty on all charges. So it was murder and five counts of piracy. He was hanged on the 23rd of May 1701. He made it! He-he-he-he. You just- Ooh, sure.

You're celebrating somebody getting hanged. No, we're making it to the 1700s. Oh, cool. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, This is awful. The hangman's rope broke and kid was hanged on the second attempt. Wasn't there a thing where if it didn't work, that it's like an active car? Was that America? Oh, this is London, there we go. I was like, I think that maybe it was in one of our past stories. Yeah, there's a thing like that, isn't there? Yeah, is that a real thing?

I think we remember that, anyway. So, but it doesn't apply here, because they definitely hanged him. And his body was jibbited. Do you know what that means? I gutted. No, that's what I thought. And then I was like,

I'm gonna click on the hyperlink to figure it out. I don't know what to. Exciting, what is it? But it's not that. It's just that they publicly display your body. And so it was just hanging over their tins for three years as a warning to future would be pirates. That is a long time.

That's a long time. What happens at the end of the third year? That's long enough. You were thought there'd be a similarly. You were thought there'd be no running that it would fall off. It's just decomposed and yeah, I don't act it out many. Anyway. It's hard to act out decomposition.

It is hard. It's something that takes a while to act out because it's so, it's just such a slow process. Well, there it is, yeah. Oh, four or not. Oh, that's all right. So kids back is all the people that put money into it. You're about to laud the Sir, the Earl and John.

Well, they were quite embarrassed by his trial. And far from rewarding his mercy. Oh no they're so embarrassed. Oh our man was murdered. Well embarrassing. So they could have probably stepped in. So far from rewarding his loyalty they participated in the effort to convict him by depriving him of the money and information which might have provided him with some legal defense. So in particular the two sets of French passes that he had kept were missing at his trial So they could have actually been kind of helpful. They all found years later

Just miss filed with other government papers in a London building. Whoopsie. Oh, I do all these days. Oh, oops Along with the papers many goods were brought from the ship and soon auctioned off as pirate plunder They were never mentioned in the trial at all either. Pirate plunder. Now for years, people and treasure hunters have tried to locate the... Stereo's missing hinges. No, the ship. The ship that he abandoned.

The one that I can't pronounce that then became Adventure Maze. That's the oneized. It was reported on December 13, 2007 that a wreckage of a pirate ship abandoned by Captain Kid in the 17th century has been found by divers in shallow water off the Dominican Republic. Now the water in which the ship was found was less than 10 feet deep and was only 70 feet off-catalyne in an island just to the south of La Romana on the Dominican coast. So it's like not far off the coast. No one found it. There it is. People have been looking for 300 years. Oh hang on what's that? Oh there it is. They found it. So they found the ship. How tall was it? Was it nine feet tall? Because it was in 10 feet of water. I mean I guess.

It could have been pretty visible. I don't think it'd be perfectly fair, Maddie. I don't think it was just a full ship. I just found part of it. I'm picturing the full ship. The full ship. It's ready to go. Like if you bring out the water, put pop it on top.

Just let it dry out a little bit. Really good. Because it's probably a bit waterlogged. It's just floating. It's just, it's sooner. For sooner. So yeah, that concludes the story because it's probably a bit waterlogged. They're floating. It's just. Sooner. Sooner. So yeah, that concludes the story of Captain William Kid. What, Don J. Payton?

But do you think that he was hard done by? Ah, look. Because it sounds like that he was doing a bit of murdering himself. Well, he did a murder. And I for an eye, a bucket for a bucket. He did one murder. I mean, that's not- But he did a bit of piracy though. I mean, but he did a bit of policy though

Yeah, I think he was a bit I think he was probably a little bit spineless and that he was like oh guys Just like me and they were like nah, you know, that's what I think Hey, yeah, it's hard to tell because it's such a different time Because I let him do so like the the funny, the lines they draw. This is fine, this is worthy of you being dead. I like the idea of licensed pirates, though. That's super funny to me. Yeah.

I like that a lot. Anyway, see that's my report, which brings us to the end of our first week back in the studio. Oh, what a way to come back to the studio. A bit of piracy, a couple of buckets. It's all happening. Shitting in cannons. So good.

So good. Poop cannons. I love pirates. I love the story. I love to call my butt from now on that. You poop cannon. I poop cannon. No.

I don't reckon. You'll poop cannons, bit back. I've got to take it out back. Get them all out of there. Far in the hole. That's what I was trying to think of. I couldn't think of what this phrase was. I was gonna be like, lend home.

That's a different term. That's a different term. Four. That's a violent shot. Shot's fired. Anyway, we need to do what we do at the end of every episode. Which is thank some lovely people that support our show through Patreon.com. So let's do go on pod. You make the episodes possible for us to keep happening every single week.

And we keep happening. Oh yeah. And we'd like to thank one person from each episode Do me one person each And I would like to thank I would like to thank James Bond From a few I would like to thank Queen Elizabeth Matt. I do like to thank from an episode Willie wills. Oh, yeah, episode two great two. Great, okay, well, that's us then, and... I said, said, four days ago. Good night.

I said, five. Anyway, what a... Who cares? Certainly, a hard time. No one who does. Dates, kick it off. So, what we do is we actually thank one person each from our Patreon, and I would like to thank someone that is from North Hollywood, California

Imagine putting that on your your dress. You're you know, you're filling out forms. I know Here's a bread pit. It is the original bad boy himself He's done the dogs he's done the truck Get out of my head, man. I'm so sorry to this guy. I wonder you and I would have thought that. Hollywood bad boy or bad girl. Oh, I'd like to thank Chase Takau, which is an incredible, like, ready for an action movie. Oh, fantastic.

Maybe they were inspiring actor. Definitely. Or a accomplished actor that I am not a weird. They say inspiring actor. Yeah, dude. Which is also true. Yeah, I bet. a or Accomplish actor that I am not aware of inspiring Yeah, it did which is also true. Yeah, I bet no I'm one. I just wasn't sure which angle is I'm inspired by Chase tack out. Thank you so much for your support Shes tack out. We we're a sick name. We would love to go to North Hollywood wouldn't we doing episode? Yes Yes, absolutely. What what I don't know. I know Hollywood. I don't know North Hollywood. Is that where the Fresh Prince lived?

Is that Belair? I'm actually sort of short. Just like, I'm just bagging things into everything. It's fun. I'm a professional. I would like to thank someone as well, if that's okay with you. Do you mind? I'm into it.

Would you like that? I'd love it. Okay, great. I would like to thank From all the way from Wyoming What's on there? What do you know about Wyoming? It starts with a W. What's a what's a big is that a town or a state? Why are you asking me these questions? Oh, I'm just curious David no because you know it's about geography I wasn't asking you Dave Wyoming

I know about I know why Wyoming Rada was quite a good actress Shocker, but it's a state but it's probably also because they all have different ones But is that the state name? Yes Yes all the way from Wyoming fuck. I'm sorry. I feel like I should know something about Wyoming Okay, well can I just thank the person who probably knows he's about Wyoming? Oh, we should help them I would like to thank Amber McDaniel Oh my god. Is this the best name ever? That's such a good name, right? Amber McDaniel. Are you looking up Wyoming now? No, you are a little bit on you There is a Wyoming in Australia as well Are you looking at Wyoming now? No. You are a little bit, aren't you? Fair enough.

There is a Wyoming in Australia as well. I think they have a massive Elvis look like festivals. So correct, am I? Dave, that was very quick. Can I talk out of two? Matt was really sweet. Do you know the capital of Wyoming? K-N.

K-N. That's where... K-N. I'm pretty sure that's where Ambers from. You would pronounce that K-N. Oh my god just not insulting ambers. I'm not insulting it. I love it every minute Anyway, thank you so much, Amber you're an absolute champion. You're a legend if it if if you guys don't mind can I Thank someone as well. Oh my god. That's all we have time for I want to complete the trip ditch trip ditch mat please I would love for you to thank someone. I'd love to thank this guy's name starts With a blaze of glory and it finishes in the most

Common name in the world, but okay, maybe not the most come in the world, but maybe the most common name in the family. Oh, yeah, joby Curtis Smith. Oh Curtis is fun Smith is also fun. I've used in the film mr. and mr. Smith. That, Curtis is fun. Smith is also fun. It's fun. Have you seen the film Mr and Mrs Smith? That's a fun film. I have. This guy's British, he's from Dorsat. If I don't know if that's,

I have a direct name. I don't think that's it. I don't think that's right. Isn't it? Nah. Carter Smath from Dorsat. Are you doing hot fuzz right now? Not sure.

That's kind of a, anything. Carter Smath from Dorsat. Yeah, that's a fun good stuff. Let me know if that's right Curtis. Thanks Curtis. Did I nail it? Smith Smithy Smith dog Smith dog. Hey, are you I would love to know If you're okay with it feels like you've got you've sort of got the the short straw having me Be the one to thank you I bet you want a Dave I bet you want a Dave and I bet you what could I just get Dave to do all of them. We will start taking requests on. No, that's too complicated. No, it's so hard. Dave can you just come up with a nice little plan words for kids. Well that's not fair

because Amber didn't get one then. Yeah this is too much. Amber, I'll never wait to give Amber a compliment. What? Amber's the, that's the, it means it's yellow on the traffic lights. Oh my god, that was so dumb. Or? No, it was dumb. I would like to thank Curtis for paying us the courtesy of supporting the show. Leave it to Dave. I touched Dave's hand and accidentally, sorry Dave. That's fine. Enjoy it. Anyway, stop, stop, Matt, stop. You're doing your thinking face.

You've done enough damage. That's the end. We're done. I've just noticed an amp it might also be Aaron McDaniel. So I'd also like to make sure Aaron gets his love to. Okay, thanks Aaron Stop waking at Dave. I will not giving Matt the good job signal to similar to the James Bond

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