Two In The Think Tank - 86 - Charlie Chaplin

Episode Date: June 14, 2017

On this week's episode, Jess tells us the story of one of the most famous and successful comedians of all time, Charlie Chaplin! And what a rags to riches story it is.Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit PlanetBcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of DoGo on my name is Dave Wanuki and I'm here with the best people in the entire world. It's Matsu and Jess Perkins. The best people in the entire world. I thought it was going to like it sounded like he was going to fuck us there, but he didn't. I thought it was going to be the best people in this room

And I still would have been pretty happy with that. I thought he was gonna say the best people in the world The St. Kilda football club or something like that sure They are the best people in the world. Hey when it comes to complimenting my buddies. I do not muck around I love that day. Thank you. I reckon you're one of the best people in the world too Oh, sorry that was not as good as the best people one of the best Yeah, because that's three of us are the best people in the world for enough but arrogant on your behalf great to be here with you guys Are you both well? I ate a large piece of cake before I met you here really you didn't talk about that But what kind of cake? Okay, so I was meeting my friend Lewis, Lewis Dow,

Phil Acquedian, Phil Acquedian and Cake Eater. No, because Lewis got a burger. Oh, because he was hung over and they just got out of bed. And I had had lunch today, but I felt like something a little bit sweet. So I got a coffee, third coffee of the day, so I'm feeling pretty good. And then I thought, I don't, I'm gonna have, oh, what's that you got there? Oh, a strawberry sponge cake. That looks delightful. Oh, that's good. I'll have a piece of that.

The piece that came out was almost as big as my head, and it was amazing. Wow, and you don't have a tiny head. I've got a big head. You're quite a large head. Yeah. And also, some goal on you as well, for bringing up this big piece of cake

and coming here empty handed. You motherfucker. Did you eat at all? Yeah, I did. I let Lewis have a bite, but I hate the rest. Yeah, so I'm feeling pretty good. I'm gonna have a sugar crash. I'm not gonna be able to think about anything about cake. Yeah, ask me how I am. How are you? Pist off you didn't give us some fucking cake. Well, what if I, like, after we do this podcast, we're gonna grab some dinner.

We'll buy you some dinner. I'll get you some cake. Can we? We'll only go to places where they have cake on the menu. Okay. I'm in. I forgive you Jess, for something that wasn't really your fault. Well, thank you. No worries. Matt, how are you? I'm good. You were in yellow pants, aren't you? Sure I am. Sorry to pull back the curtain there, but... Did you mention my pants every time I see you? Yeah. So we've had it. What's with that? I don't know, you've got good pants. Oh, okay.

No, it's always just that one pair of jeans that I comment on. But you are in yellow pants because you're a little right sunshine and you look great. These are Levi's jeans. Are we sponsored by them now? No, but I think he invented jeans. Do we talk about that in an episode? We've got strats. Invented jeans.

Yeah. Didn't jeans just sort of appear one day? Yeah, when he invented them. Yeah. When he planted the denim tree, and they grew in a size small. Yeah. Convenient for me. It wasn was until the jeans had, had offspring that we got the denim vest and the, uh,

the denim hat. That was a mistake. I'm wearing a denim jacket right now. I don't, I don't say it. She's lying to you, listeners. I don't say denim. It's corda-roy. Yeah, I'm cool enough to wear corduroy. Are there denim hats?

That was a bad instinct instinct. Surely in that photo of Justin Timberlake in pretty spears. Is he wearing a denim hat? Oh no. They're wearing so much denim in that awful awful photo. Yeah, that was like for Halloween or something. How he's still allowed to be one of the coolest men on the planet. I will never know. And so is she. One of the coolest men on the planet. Yes. She's allowed to be. Yeah, anyone can be cool. Yeah. It's just about believing in yourself. Yeah, that's the least cool thing you can do. That's what just mom always said to her. Yeah, and me and I appreciate that. She's a good lady. She's a good lady. She

feels me with self belief. Yeah, she's great. Even when I really shouldn't have any, which is most of the time. Most of the time. Yeah. She's a good lady. Now before we hit record, I just did say that this is her longest report ever, so she would get straight to it. So so far we've ticked off cake talk, denim talk, and cool talk. We're done. I think we're ready to go. We're good. Because this is like a Dave Warnakie Lake through a port. It's an interesting story, and I just sort of got carried away, and everything that I found, I was like, well, that has to go in.

Well, that has to go in. And you wrote this before today as well? I did, actually, but even before yesterday. Isn't that amazing? I don't remember ever doing that myself. Did you miss co-calate the calendar, and you thought we had to record earlier? No, I had plans, and knew I wouldn't have time.

No, that's really smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because if I have plans, it doesn't change anything. No, so I was busy from about, well, actually, I had breakfast with my mom yesterday and then was busy from that. Oh, you did have plans. From one o'clock onwards, then I wasn't home. I was not home.

It was always fun for a bit of cake. I was home, but I was, anyway, yeah. It was always fun for cake. Imagine having a report written. Yeah. And then beforehand is eating cake. Yeah. What I like to do is panically write until you guys tell me we don't have any more time. We have to start recording. Yeah, we know mate. Oh, you know, you know, I don't know if the people at home know. I think they could probably tell. Oh, I think I've been people have been saying that my reports have been getting better. Who's been saying that? Andy Matthews? Yes.

But he's one of our best listeners. He is one of our best listeners and one of our best friends. Most trusted listeners. I trust him. Because he gives me positive feedback. But he gives me- And I trust people who give me positive affirmation. But he gives me realistic feedback.

I remember recently I said something a bit fucked up with podcast and you told him that I'd said something fucked and he said, really? I don't believe that for a second. It was being sarcastic and I was like, oh, I'm a terrible person. Oh yeah. Andy Matthews' confers.

But that's okay. All right, so yes, this is my report. Let's get stuck in. And as per usual, a few minutes before we start with the podcast, I went, fuck, I haven't written a question. So you really shouldn't have had that fucking cake. I shouldn't have had that cake. Oh, can you work cake another question? Yes. Great No, I hope it's about Mary Antoinette me too. I was really happy. That would be so good if it was But it's not which Austrian cake lover

She's When you... Yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. Well, even when I'm not reporting you're learning from me. Yeah, I'm always learning from you mate. What not to do? I got in...

You got to. ...nostrian. Okay. That's someone who lives in a nose. That's terrible. Ah! someone who lives in a nose. That's terrible. Oh, I was hit. I was hit. I was really good. Thanks Dave.

You're a regular bloody Andy Matthews. I'm teaching you so many things about Maria Tornet. Okay. Well speaking of comedy, my question relates to it. Oh my goodness. Who is the most famous comedian of all time? Interesting. Joe time fell. No, Billy Connolly. No. I wonder if it's modern or old because if it's old I'm kind of thinking it's Charlie Chaplin. Boo!

Maddie! Really? Yeah. Or if it's not him. Yeah, who else do you think it? I was thinking, more modern times, I probably would have said Jerry Seinfeld, Billy Connolly. Is that what Dave said? Yeah, those are the exact two examples. Any Murphy's, a big comedian? Steve Martin?

Yeah. But yeah, Charlie Chapman's sort of the... It's Charlie Chapman's a topic that I'm doing. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna look. If I'm gonna have to... Are you gonna make me go with one? Yeah, I'm gonna have to ask you to choose one. All right, I'm going to say... Who's that guy who smashes fruit and then headbutts it? Con the fruit or me a day

You're gonna go with Dave warnakies. Yeah, smashers watermelons the most famous sage It's the copyrighted move the hump and headbutt. What is that guys name? Gonzo What the guy smashes watermelons on stage? I think you think you'd date. He did in the Simpsons once He's like part of the butt of jokes He's a bit of a weird guy Suspice G godfrees Gallagher Gallagher, that's right actually it is Gallagher. Important. Important. We got to the bottom of that. Thanks for humor me there

But I'm actually gonna do the report entirely. That's a very excellent Charlie Chaplin. He was a comedian It's really interesting. Do you guys know much about Charlie Chaplin. Charlie Chaplin. That's a very excellent thing. Charlie Chaplin. He was a comedian wasn't he? It's really interesting. Do you guys know much about Charlie Chaplin? I know everything. No, I don't really know much at all. Yeah, I guess I didn't really know all that much myself. Born in Austria, I believe. I know that Iron Man played him.

Robert Downing, Jr. played him in the 1992 film Chaplin. Yes. Correct. And actually, in my opinion, I've seen it before. In my opinion, did a very good job. Oh. Yeah. But I mean, Robert Daniel, he's very good.

So yeah, this was suggested by a couple of people. It's been suggested by Michael Gledson via Facebook. And also Angel Rivers, Riversaw, who tweets to us. What a great man. Yeah, so good. Now, Angel said their suggestion was, Charlie Chaplin's the great dictator. So it's quite a specific part of Charlie Chaplin,

which I will talk about, but I'll also just sort of, I will talk about. There's a great porn title ready to be taken right there. Ah, there he is too. That's a very good... for on title. But I only do those on Patreon only episodes, so... Oh, come on Dave, give us a little taste. The great dick taker. You are good at it.

You are bloody good. Is that a real one? No, that would be... That's gotta be. A silent porn movie. You know what? In black and white. Maybe that would be for the best. With the little tramp.

Hmm. Little tramp. Anyway. Given. So. So you ignore this advice of going specific on the great dictator and instead you've found a topic that's too big for yourself. Good point.

But I just, I think it was interesting to talk about. I'm excited to hear. Yeah. So a little bit of a backstory here. but I just I think it was interesting to to talk about I'm excited to hear so a little bit a little bit of backstory here get your mind in the right space towards the end of the 19th century which Matt what years your years were that 19th century yeah that was some kindergarten for me the conventions of Victorian England had created a society that appeared well-educated, well-dressed and well-mannered.

But this society was on the verge of suffocating in its own prudishness. Watch this, you send very clever. Can't believe you wrote that. Thank you. The savior in part was due to a few square miles across the Thames, South London. You said Thames right? I said it right. You didn't even bring attention to it.

And I didn't hesitate or pause. I'm doing so well today. South London was filled with more live entertainment, prostitution and drunkenness than anywhere else in England at the time. And it's still it. Hey! South London. And despite class segregation, the rich and the poor came together in the musicals and

the public houses. It was in this world that a gentleman called Charles Chaplin made his career as a singer. This is Charles Chaplin's senior, by the way. Meanwhile, 20-year-old Hannah Hill was also a singer who apparently did hilarious impressions of people she observed under the stage name Lily Harley, such a good stage name. But Hannah Hill's a crappin' name in itself. Hannah Hill's like a great isn't it? Yeah.

Can't turn you back on that. I've always liked the name Hannah. Hannah's a good name. Hannah's a good name. It's one of those things words that is backwards and forwards. How long will it grabe? That's right. Dave what are they? They're called parallelograms. Fuck it. Fuck it. It looks so good. parallelogram. H A double N A H. Why didn't you believe me? Because they're not parallelograms. What are they? Parallelograms, what are you guys?

They're parallelograms of things that with equal sides. Parallelograms are a thing with four sides. Parallelograms, you guys are definitely wrong on this. They're a thing that's cold, a parallelograms, like, Remind me, it's cold, I... Oh, yeah. Parallelograms, like, it's not as square as a parallelogram. Is that what it is? It's anything with four sides.

And if they're like parallel. It's opposite sides of parallel. Yeah. What has happened early? It's not even backwards. They're cold. I was just looking at it. I was just looking at it.

I was just looking at it. I was just looking at it. I was just looking at it. I was just looking at it. I was to be fucking worth. I'm going to die with this. I'm going to die with this. Go n' elk is one? It is. It's really good. Palandrome. No, there was another word for it.

It's not the word I was thinking of. Definitely Palandrome. I'm parallelogrammed. I thought you guys were fucking with me. I was not fucking with you guys. And then all of a sudden I started to be like, wait a minute, I'm either one who is crazy. Pal and Joan. I thought I'm thinking of a different word.

Yeah, you think you're a parallelogram? I was thinking of, oh man. Anyway, Hannah's a good name. That was where we come from. That's where we come from. And I was so confident, wasn't I? But you were so confident I didn't even find any question. I was like, yeah, that's what it is.

I was so sure. Anyway, Hannah Hill, she is doing impressions under the stage of Lily Harley. In 1885, Hannah gaveov birthed to a son, Sydney. To this day, the identity of Sydney's father remains unknown. However, 14 weeks after he was born, Hannah married Charles Chaplin senior. Four years later, on April 16, 1889, Hanagov birthed to Charles Spencer Chaplin. Charlie Chaplin. There we go. So, Hanagov, is that the same baby? Or is that the second baby?

Second baby. Right. What do you mean same baby? Like, sorry, but I was just thinking that maybe, don't worry, it's all good. I couldn't tell if they got married whilst she was 14 weeks pregnant. No, they got married after, after, after,

sorry, after she was already existed. So Charlie's a little bit younger. Charlie's four years younger. Gotcha. A few years later, Charles Senior was traveling around the US for about a year. And when he returned home, he found that he had a newborn son that he was not expected.

What? Yeah, he was going back and had a new baby. And he's like, a year later. A year later. Wow, wow. That's a, that's a, yeah. It's a medical, medical miracle. Yes. It's a long pregnancy Yeah, it's kind of for over a year. It's hard to let people know I guess back then could a centimum parallelogram

But They take a while to get it over the seas He he left the family Um, he, uh, he left the family. Sir, I don't know, he was like, this is, this is us. This ain't my baby. That's not my baby. He left the family and correctly claimed that he only had one son, so he paid very little child support.

Because obviously they had Sydney, uh, who, who wasn't child, child. Right. And then Charlie was his son. So, it's very messy. The third son, his name was George Wheeler Dryden, was fathered by the musical entertainer Leo Dryden. And George was taken by his father Leo at six months old and didn't re-enter the Chaplain's life for about 30 years. So he had no relationship with his younger brother. Right. Yeah, so Chaplain's early years were spent with his mother and brother

Sydney in the London District of Kennington. Hannah had no means of income other than occasional nursing and dressmaking jobs. As the situation deteriorated Chaplin was sent to Lambeth Workhouse when he was seven years old and the workhouses from what I could sort of figure out they were like places where people would know money or like out of prison and stuff like that that's where they would go like they were kind of just how housing for like lots of kids were sent there and it doesn't it's not a nice place. Cuckoo's from the phrase work house I imagine something quite nice. No. It sounds horrible.

The council housed him at the Central London District School for Porpers. What a weird name. Which Chaplin remembered as a four-law and existence, which I guess makes sense for a school for porters. He was briefly reunited with his mother 18 months later before Hannah was forced to re-admit her family to the workhouse in July of 1898 and the boys were sent to Norwood School which was another institution for destitute children. So he had a pretty rough childhood. In September of 1898, Hannah was committed to Cain Hill Mental Asylum. She developed a psychosis seemingly brought on by an infection of syphilis or malnutrition. But she was committed so I mean dedication I think is one of the first things you need

to do. It's the first signs of mental illness. Yeah. Over dedication. Over dedication now. That's why I kept it loose. Loose and free. You're a loooth. Yeah. So a loooth. For the two months that she was she was in the Cane Hill

asylum, Charlie and his brother Sydney were sent to live with their father, but they barely knew him because he'd obviously left the family when they were quite young. Charles Sydney was by then a severe alcoholic and life there was bad enough to provoke a visit from the National Society of the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. So we could assume from that that it wasn't a nice place, something with their dad, I don't know. His father, so Charles Senior,

died two years later at 38 years old from cirrhosis of the liver, so alcohol. Boozehound. Yeah. But at least he was committed to his drinking. And that takes guts. Mm.

Speaking of guts. He's liver. Yeah. It fucks him up. No good. Thanks for stepping on my joke there. Fuckhead. Nah, I'm good on ya.

Oh, I thought this was a team game, Jess. Yes, hold my hand. Dave, stop resisting, hold my hand. We set him up and Dave steals the jokes. You know how the team... Mike Dave, hold my hand. You won't hold on. We set him up and Dave feels the jokes. You know how the team... Make Dave hold my hand, you won't hold it. He's holding it. He's holding it.

He just can't just... He's done the minimum. He's done the minimum. He's doing a minimum hold there. That was good. That was nice. We're all okay. Hannah entered a period of remission, but in 1903 she became ill again. Charlie, who was then 14, had the task of taking his mother to the infirmary,

and from there she was sent back to the cane hill, the asylum. And he lived alone for several days, searching for food and occasionally sleeping rough, until Sydney, who had enrolled in the Navy two years earlier, returned. So his brothers, four years older than him, and came back to him. And I stayed with him because their mum was not well. Hannah was in and out of care for a long time until she eventually passed away in 1928. Fuck.

So. How old was she there, approximately? I'm not actually sure. 1928, I'm not sure how old she was. She was born in 1900. She was 28, but I mean that is a big assumption. Well okay, hang on, we can figure this out. So she was roughly 20. Okay, hang on, no we can do this.

Sorry. No, I want to figure this out. I want to know how sad this is. She is. And I'd face my sadness on someone's death by the age. But help me with the maths, because you know that's not my strength. So 20, it says she was 20, and she gave birth

to Sydney in 1885. So that says she was 20 in 1885. So she was born in 65, and she died in 28. So that's 35 plus 28, Dave. 63. 63, so in the olden days that's good ittings yeah but not a great life yeah so man how sad are you how sad are you still pretty sad about it yeah yeah that does that sounds like a sad story yeah just like I had no idea of such a such a rough upbringing between his time in the the porpoise schools

and his mother becoming quite ill, Charlie began to perform on stage. He later recalled making his first amateur appearance at the age of five when he took over from Hannah one night in Alder's shot. I don't really know the context of how he took over, but it was performing at about five. By the time he was nine.

Mom, I've got this. Yeah, so I won't. I'll do the impression tonight, Mom. Yeah, thank you. Hey, hey everybody! I don't know why I'm American and I'm young. I'm here. And I'm here. You're an impressionist, that's why.

That's right. And that was my impression of a young American. Next! By the time he was nine, Charlie had with his mother's encouragement grown interested in performing and through his father's connections Charlie became a member of the eight Lancashire Ladd's clock dancing trip. That sounds sick. I want in. Well thank god he's done that a connection to that. Big big break. You got to get into the club. You got to get a big one. If they're still going, fair English listeners,

so it can let me know. I don't think I am. And how are you? Any English people listening? No, it's none of them. Jack and your dad would have any connections, Matt? To get you into the club? Not so hard.

If he's been holding out on me this whole time. It's a whole time. It's a serious club dancer. I would genuinely be pissed off. If he's off Kloggan and Holding that back for me. I'd be I'd be furious. I can't see that family case. He would he definitely He knows that that's something you would want to do. Yes, yes

Can hold that back for me if it if you could claim ignorance Then you you could maybe understand but in this case. I mean you talk about clogged dancing But in this case, I mean you talk about clog dancing. I live to clog. I clog to live. Which is hard because I don't have clogs or access to a clog lad crew. Well, unfortunately. Well, if your dad's been clogging and he's not been telling you, he deserves a floggin. So I'm saying, he's clogging for a floggin. And it is really hard to become a top line clogger

without clogs and without clogged mates. Yeah. You're confusing jogging with clogging. Which one's which one's which? Jogging is much cheaper because you don't need any specific footwear. You kinda do. Joggers?

You need joggers. You can't really do that in flip-flops, can you? I do. I know you do, you're a bully when you're good. I've got really sore feet all the time. Anyway, with this clocked-dead-sick trip, he toured English musicals throughout 1899 and 1900. Actually, he had to beat off the women because he's a child.

But he's also a clockman. Why would he be beating them off? Oh, that's good. Charlie worked hard. Tell me you're off got a clock. Charlie worked hard and the act was very popular with audiences, but he was not satisfied with dancing and wished to form a comedy act. In the years, if vlogging isn't funny enough.

In the years that Charlie was touring with the eight Lancashire lads, his mother ensured that he still attended school, but by age 13 he debandled his education. He supported himself with a range of jobs while nursing his ambition to become an actor. At 14 shortly after his mother's relapse he registered with a theatrical agency in London's West End. The manager sensed potential in Chaplin. He was like, hmm, we're gonna be a star kid. See, it's early 1900s. Anyway, this person was ahead of their time and spoke like it was the 40s. And Charlie was probably given his first role as a newsboy in Jim, a romance of Cocaine, which sounds fantastic. What it means it's a name to a porn title quite well. But once again, I only do those on the Patreon episodes.

Come on, man. Come on. Come on, man. Come on, man. What do you got for us? I can't see any obvious ends here, so good luck Blowman some cocaine I mean his bloody good blowman's of cocaine of cocaine

So the play opened in July of 1903 and his news boy his. What a role. The show was unsuccessful and it closed after two weeks. Chaplin's comic performance, however, was singled out for praise in many of the reviews. So even though it was a dud, he was still a star. Newsboy was a star. Newsboy stole the show. The director of that play secured a role. I've got your paper here.

Oh, he's very good. Do I have now got your paper? And your cocaine. Is that,, and in your porn spin-off I guess the paper boy comes around you know some of the door. Is it a good news for you? Like I'm Zips his pants. Well, we don't have a subscription to the news But I do have a pool you could claim why are you doing that with your shoulders? Why are you? Because I'm a single young woman left all alone. In a big empty house. You're on a cross-fainter at the top. I've got a big empty pull out back. Well I've just cropped myself a paper. Big empty pull out the back. That's not a

euphemism is it? It's the 1900s. I hate this so much. Stop doing that with your shoulders. Dave you're too sexy. I know. Stop it. So the director of Jim, a romance of cocaine, secured a role for Charlie in Charles Froman's production of Sherlock Holmes, where he played Billy the Page Boy in three nationwide tours his tour it he's acted. At 16 years old Chaplin starred in the plays West End production at the Duke of York's Theatre from October of December of 1905. He completed one final tour of Sherlock Holmes in early 1906 before leaving the play after more than two and a half years touring playing this character in Sherlock Holmes. No longer a page boy by the end of his tour. He's a page man.

There's a bit of a link back to a previous episode there we did want about Sherlock Holmes. Sherlock Holmes. Sherlock Holmes. And in that we talked about one of the... What is Owen Wilson and Jackie Chan movies I think? And at the end of one of those movies, one of the guys like... He saw this... he saw a sign, he's like, oh, would you mind if I use this as my character, as for Sherlock Holmes? It was like a clock or something. And then at the very end, a little boy like Stoza Ways,

they're going to America and he gets a little bit of dust on his lip, a Charlie Chaplin-style mustache, and he's been Charles Chaplin the whole movie and that's the big reveal at the end it's so good. It's really great. Spoilers. It's like an origin movie fit for both Charlie Chaplin and William Shakespeare. Wow. William Shakespeare. The moment's saying it all time? No, what's the other girl? She'll go. She'll go. Fuckin' hell. I love the way she told that story twice on the podcast. That's how much we want to ruin that movie.

Just in case you managed to avoid that episode, we just... He was a child's shepherd the whole time. Just in case you didn't think... Well, that's a bit of a weird thing. But it doesn't make any sense. What? No, it does. And I get it. And I think last summer told the story, I'd seen it recently. Now it's just a very vague memory from the past.

Now you're redeling, does the story? Why had you watched that movie recently? Why? No further questions. Fair enough. So after he left the Sherlock Holmes tour, he soon found work with a new company and went on tour with his brother, who was also pursuing an acting career by this time. Oh! In a comedy sketch called Repairs. In May 1906, Charlie joined an act at Casey's

Circus, where he developed popular burlesque pieces and was soon the star of the show. By the time the act finished touring in July of 1907, the 18-year-old had become an accomplished comedic performer. He struggled to find more work however and a brief attempt at a solo act was a failure. So at this stage he's still sort of working in like groups, like yeah that's the opposite of solo so. Yeah, but like, variety shows in the lot. Yeah, exactly right. Meanwhile, Sydney Chaplin had joined Fred Carnot's prestigious comedy company in 1906.

And by 1908, he was one of their key performers. In February, he managed to secure a two-week trial for his younger brother. Carnot was initially initially. Yes! Initially. Initially, wary and considered Chaplin a pale, puny, sullen-looking youngster who looked much too shy to do any good in the theatre.

I relate to this character. Puny, pale, sullen-looking. Hmm. Hmm. He sounds hot. Too shy to do any good in the theatre. I've said that about you. Preach it. However, 10 age-a-mad impact on his first night at the London Colosseum, and was quickly signed to a contract. He began playing a series of minor parts, eventually progressing to starring roles by the following year in 1909. In April of 1910, he was given the lead in a new sketch, Jimmy the Fee-Las.

It was a big success. Jimmy the Fee-Las. Fee-Las. Fee-Las. And,. And Charlie received considerable press attention. He's something that would have a name for himself. Um, kind of then selected this new star to join the section of the company that two in North America's Vortable Circuit. And Charlie headed to, headed the show and impressed reviewers, being described as one of the best pantomime artists ever seen here.

His most successful role was a drunk called the inebriate swell, which drew him significant recognition. The titles are incredible. The tour lasted 21 months and the trip returned to England in June of 1912 and by October they were heading off on another tour. They're hitting the road so he's like he's kind of making it as an actor and not like making the big bucks but he's you know it sees his living. Should be done alright. Yeah. Six months into the second American tour, Chatham was invited to join the New York Motion

Picture Company. This is where he's starting to get his foot in the door and film. Ever heard of it boys? You heard of film, like you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know it. A representative who had seen his performance thought he could replace Fred Mace

who is a star of their keystone studios who intended to leave. Oh Fred, what are you going? Fred, what are you doing, Mace? We didn't know where Fred obviously know his name from the next project he did. Fred Mace. Yeah. Yeah, what did he do?

He invented a new kind of horse. He's a horse breeder. Yep. He invented a new kind of horse. Yeah. How do you invent a horse? It's in pieces. Pop them together. Yeah, stuff you found around the horse? It's in pieces. Pop them together?

Yeah, stuff you found around the horse. Bit trial and error. Yeah, the revolutionized, you know, you guys that know the Fred Mace horse. But he's so dead horses together. Yeah. Like Frankenstein. Look, I'm, are you guys fucker with me? I'm very confused.

You're very confusing. This is a very long report, Matt. Just let me get through it. See. So they wanted him to join Keystone Studios. Charlie wasn't a fan of Keystone's comedies, but he rationalized that it was an opportunity to get into film and start a new life. So he met with the company and he signed a $150 per week contract which in equivalent now would be about $3,600

a week. Which is a pretty good contract. That's good money. And that was in September of 1913. So he's making $150 per week. So he's gone from like having nothing as a child and then touring with these acting groups and now he's making some good money. So he arrived in LA at home of the Keystone Studios in early December of 1913 and his boss was Mac Senet, great name, who initially expressed Mac. Mac Senet, Senet, who initially expressed concern of the 24-year-old looked too young. I'm relating. Yeahnet, sonnet. Who initially expressed concern of the 24 year old looked too young?

Well, I'm relating. Yeah, you get it. I'm relating. Have I ever told you about this? I got cast in an ad where the... All right, mate. We've all got stuff going on. Well, I did until I got kicked off the ad because the character was 18 to 24. This was last year when I was 25. And then the people, like I was casting or whatever. And then the people who were doing paying for the ad to be made the company looked at my photo and went, he's way too young to pass us 18 to 24 and I was older than 18 to 24.

I mean I know that's annoying but also like won't you be grateful for that when you're like 50? Yeah. That's what people say. Yeah, they fucking say is that true Dave? I'm not 50. Okay, you know, we'll check in Matt you'll get to 51st obviously obviously I'll miss you catch me Catch me if you can which will only have a good luck only happen if you die which I don't before 50 one that happened

Oh, it's very sweet. Yes Hey, Dave just to get paid for that out. I didn't get paid so that's what I was sad That's bullshit. So you understand you understand relating to this guy. Yeah, so Charlie wasn't used in a picture until late January and during that time he's just kind of Trying to try to learn the processes of filmmaking and trying to sort of pick up on on how they make Journal learn how to direct He's doing impressions of directors cut.

Is that right? Am I saying that right? Look mate, just get off the film set. We're trying to film here Action Look seriously, you've got to leave Cut Are you directing me on the director? And that's how the student became the teacher. So Charlie made his film acting debut in the one reala making a living. And it was released on the 2nd of February 1914.

He hated the picture. He hated it. But one review picked him out as a comedian of the first water. Not sure what that means. First water. I would put that quote all over my comedy first of all. Comedian of the first water. I'm guessing just like you know when you're I don't know. You know when you're giving out water and the best water goes to the best people. First water for you but you get the shit water for the loses that'll lose his so he's first water right speaking of which I'm gonna have a sip of my first water

right now oh you got first water yeah I've got third water in my cup okay I just got slops just you know it's sub water but that's why I'm a comedian of the first water kind. You are. For his second appearance on camera, Charlie created the costume that he would go on to be identified with for the rest of his life. The character who became known as the tramp debuted to audiences in kid auto races at Venice. It's so, what the movie tells was so good. This is so funny. And this is what Chapman said about the tramp.

So he said, I wanted everything to be a contradiction. The pants baggy, the coat tight, the hat small, and the shoes large. I added a small mustache, which I reasoned would add age without hiding my expression. Just a good point. I had no idea of the character, but the moment I was dressed, the clothes and the makeup made me feel the person he was.

I began to know him and by the time I walked on stage he was fully born. What an actor. What an actor. Can relate to a lot of that as an actor myself. Yeah. How so please do tell me. Because you've been a few commercials and not been kicked off because of your young looks. Yeah. I know. On all the acting work work, I often wear small hats and big shoes. You demand it. They say, but Matt, this is a scene set in a swimming pool. Yeah, I say, too bad, give me big pants, small shirt, please.

And once I get them on, and I'm in there in the pool, drowning, under the weight of the clothes, I'm like, yeah, I think I know who this guy is. He's about to die. He's dying. Yeah, he's dying now. He's being resuscitated. He's splitting water back out of his lungs. He's in an ambulance. Like, I know who he is. And at the end of the decal comes on and says, go, shop at Target. Yeah. Bang, nailed it. Another commercial well done. Put it in the can. I'll send you an invoice. Yeah. That's a poor wee grade. Also I'll build for the hospital. You've made a significant loss on the job. And it will not succeed at all. Great yes it's so wonderful to have two prestigious actors here.

Yeah, we can pick apart Charlie. Yeah, really work. Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. If you want to get inside the mind of an actor, only two willing to oblige. Thank you so much. It was very good. Very good.

Inside the actor's podcast studio. No, no. I can't do it like you can. I can't get deep enough, I think. Do it. No, it's just one. So low. It's just the those he makes when he's going along with my bullshit. I love it.

Okay, so he's just, he's making movies. He's churning him out. He's making the films. During the filming of his 11th picture, Mabel at the Wheel. Who's Mabel? Well, he was here at the wheel. He clashed with director Mabel Norman, and was almost released from his contract. Senate kept him on, however, when he received orders from exhibitors for more chaplain films. Senate also allowed Charlie to direct his next film himself after Charlie

promised to pay $1,500 equivalent of 36 grand now if the film was unsuccessful. Like he backed himself he's like I'll give you 36 grand. He's gone for a, he's made a bet. Yeah, he's like a bet you the super dude. I want to direct and they probably went, no, mate, you can't direct. Because if it's, okay, let me direct and if it's bad, I'm going to give you a $1500. Which is a lot of money. And caught in the rain, which was issued 4th of May 1914, was Chaplin's directorial debut. Caught in the rain. Caught in the rain?

It needs more mable. And it was... Yeah, we need a place and a name. Everything else is Gary doing the dishes or something the place the place is court okay okay sure and the activity is the rain surely in the rain is the place yep so that was his directing debut. And he made a big bet. He made a lot of money behind it.

He really backed himself. Matt Jorgim was going to go well. Yes. Dave? I'm also in the yes camp. You're both correct. It was highly successful. He made it!

Maybe I'll go fuck yourself. He did it. Thereafter, he directed almost every short film in which he appeared for Keystone at a rate of approximately one per week. What? They're making movies, they're making a movie a week. Maybe the Wheel, Greg in the castle. Johnny does something.

Johnny does something. That's not Dave Blanking, that's what one of them was called. Oh, I've got the list of his filmography in front of me. I'm running you know, Johnny does something Um, just to save money. They actually started doing maple at the wheel. Maybe lost something under the seat Maple ducks into the back. Maybe I was looking the boot Maybe fills up petrol. Yeah, maybe we'll get some groceries Um, maybe maybe I'll some maple time. Oh, no That's no porn titles there. That's moving into your industry Maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll

have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some,

maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have some, maybe I'll have No, no, no, never bothered. That was great. Charlie's films introduced a slower form of comedy than the typical Keystone Fass that they were used to, and he developed quite a large fan base because of this. In November of 1914, he had a supporting role in the first feature-length comedy film, Tillie's Punctured Romance. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Directed by a Senate and starring Marie Dressler, it was a commercial success and increased his popularity. When Charlie's contract came up for renewal at the end of the year, he asked for $1,000 a week, which would have been equivalent of $24.00. A week? A week. That would make you a million, eh? Yep.

And Senate refused as it was too much money. So at this time, the SNA Film Manufacturing Company of Chicago sent Chaplin an offer of 1,250 a week with a signing bonus of $10,000. Right. So even more than he wanted. Even more than he wanted. So yeah. So he joined the studio in late December 1914. So that signing bonus is about a quarter of a million dollars, which would have made him a millionaire. No, it makes him a quarter of the way to a million. Okay. Interesting.

But if you worked for a year, you'd become a millionaire. Okay. So this is where he started to begin forming a stock company of regular actors that he used quite a lot. So it included Leo White, Bud Jamison, Patty Maguire and Billy Armstrong. Such good names. He soon recruited a leading lady. Her name was Edna. Are you having an Edna? Yes. Well these people are old enough to be grandparents and that's a great grandma name. Edna, Pervians? Pervians?

Pervians. Edna. It's good call her Edna. He met her in a cafe and hired her on a count of her beauty. So that's a good feeling. So acting ability? A hundred. A hundred.

She went on to a pee in 35 films with Chaplin over eight years and they dated for a little bit. Just for a little bit. During 1915, Charlie became a cultural phenomenon. Shops were stocked with Chaplin merchandise. He featured in cartoons and comic strips. Several songs were written about him. In July, a journalist for Motion Picture magazine wrote that Chaplain Itas had spread across America. Oh my god what's the cure? More comedy. Oh okay that only makes it worse Jess. Oh no. It makes you feel like you want more comedy but that's the last thing you need. That's the last thing you're going to need. You know what you need to

get over it just just some fluids and rest. Right. The main thing you know you just got to rest up. Darken room. Yeah. And lots thing, you just gotta rest up. Darkened room. Yeah, and lots of water. Tea, if you feel like it, plain foods. Plain foods. Twist season cake. Just type, flat cake if you can.

Yeah. Plain food. Plain food. Right brothers was ditting in that, obviously. Yeah, obviously. Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider a career in IT. You could enjoy a recession-resistant career in a rewarding field, with plenty of growth

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Do you know what that's worth? Um, probably a fuck time I think with one was 36. That's 150 times 36. Is there a if one? 1000 was the equivalent of 36 15 All right, and 15 The what he guaranteed was 36 which is 15 right don't wait. Oh, I 15 hundred was about 30 grand So Dave you know math if he's asking for 150 So I really can't deny because that is so that's I mean that's all the money

So let's say a thousand was $24,000 and he's asking for $150. $3.6 million. Fucking hell. That- I guess that probably in today's language that isn't like a- No, yes, sometimes there would be a 25 billion for a film. Yeah. So maybe he isn't being- but at the time probably movies weren't saying anything. No, yes, sometimes there would be a 25 billion for a film. Yeah So maybe he isn't being so but at the time probably movies won't That's just a signing bonus. Yeah, did anyone did anyone do it? Well

He received several offers including universal Fox The best of which came from the mutual film corporation at $10,000 a week on top of the bonus, like the signing bonus. Wow. Making $10 grand a week. So that's $4,000,000 a week. That was sort of there. So a contact was negotiated with mutual that amounted to $670,000 a year, which Robinson says made Chaplin at 26 years old, one of the highest paid people in the world

In the world that's awesome. He's our age though and back then he's making 670 grand a year Right in their money. Jeez. It's insane The high salary is shocked the public and was widely reported in the press That is incredible. Yeah My salary shocked the public and was widely reported in the press. That is incredible. Yeah. Apparently, the studio president, a guy called John R. Froula, explained, we can afford to pay Mr. Chaplin this large sum annually because the public wants Chaplin and will pay

for him. So it's like, well, he'll make the money so we can afford to give it to him. It's amazing. Mitchell gave Chaplin his own Los Angeles studio to work in, which opened in March of 1916. And in 1917, professional Chaplin imitators were so widespread that he took legal action. And it was reported that nine out of ten men who attended costume parties were dressed as a tramp. That's not true. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, working on stuff but he wasn't churning out like he's not a movie a week because he sort of he wanted to make his own art. He wanted to make his art, so eventually the contract with Mutual ended but it ended quite nicely.

They were very patient with his slower rate of putting that content but it was, yeah. Did he put out any bangers with him? I think so. I don't have a listed here, but he drinks a hot chocolate. I'm wondering when he gets to the movies that we've heard of, which aren't. There's not a heap of them, but there's one of you heard of. The great dictate is the most famous one. Great dictator. Charlie Chaplin goes to the doctors.

Trump. Trump stamp. Trump stamp. Trump stamp too, back in the habit. Trump formers. More than meets you. Yeah. Anyway, so Charlie's primary concern in finding a new distributor was independence.

Sydney Chaplin, then his business manager, so Sydney's just taken over his business manager now. He told the press, Charlie must be allowed all the time he needs and all the money for producing films the way he wants. It is quality, not quantity, we're after. Very good, Sydney, very good. Well said, Sydney.

Oh, Sydney, very good. In June of 1917, Charlie signed to complete eight films for the first national exhibitors circuit in return for $1 million. That wouldn't make him a millionaire. That would make him a millionaire. Even by their terms. Even by their terms, he is now a millionaire.

He chose to build his own studio, situated on five acres of land of sunset boulevard with production facilities of the highest order only the best So this was completed in 1918 and Charlie was given freedom over the making of his pictures. So now he can make whatever he wants to make So he joined forces with Douglas Fairbanks, Mary Pickford and D.W. Griffith, D.W. D. DW. A.

To form a new distribution company. You know it, artists. You know it, artists. You know it, artists neither. How did you know? That was me that he was the founder of New United Artists. How did you know? Trivia.

Dives are real trivia buff. You know, it's just thing, you know that. I did not know that. You didn't know that about Dave. How has that not been mentioned in this? It's weird, it hasn't come out. In this podcast, which is largely trivia based, should be honest, yeah. It feels like a might of almost been the first thing. It's the reason to mention it.

To this whole show. Hmm. No idea. Um, hey, you learn something new every day. I think they're also involved in the Academy Awards being set up. Ah, there you go. Episode 3, 4, fuck. Idiot.

The arrangement was revolutionary in the film industry as it enabled the four partners, all creative artists, to personally fund their pictures and have complete control. Chaplin was eager to start with a new company and offered to buy out his contract with First National, but they declined to this and insisted that he complete the final six films he owed them. So he agreed to eight and did turn, was like, can I just buy you out? They're like, no! I give you that $30 million back. Make six films, he's like, ah!

I can't do so many! I get drops as I'm out. Oh, mama! Okay. films he's like ah that's so many it drops his arm oh mama okay I'll make six films are just crimson pen and paper to him writing it now guy goes to the shop it's brilliant oh my goodness that's exactly what we wanted we really thought he'd like he'd throw it in if he was forced to do a bit of... Yeah, but he's such a professional. This is good stuff! Guy goes to the shops. Why didn't I think of that?

Next film. And Johnny does a poo poo. My goodness, pushing the boundaries. I love it. I love it, this is fantastic. So what else Johnny? What else have you got? Can we have a sequel to Johnny does a poo poo? Johnny sticks a fork and a electric socket.

Oh my god, it says so much about society. So much about comedy too. Oh my goodness. I think of the death scene, it'll be hilarious. Oh, hilarious, the slapstick. Oh my goodness. Johnny mails it in. Hmm, Johnny, so he survived.

It's a cliffhanger episode. My goodness. He gets stuck inside a little box. Oh, you've done it again. Give that man more money. Johnny a little box. Oh, you've done it again. Give them more money Johnny shoots his boss brackets Johnny Johnny is a is a is an allegory

No, he's not is he yeah, that's for me Charlie Chaplin the boss is the boss bracket. It's a long time lengthy, but I don't hate it for you. We'll do it But kids all love it. This is exactly how the entire conversation went Space man from Pluto it'll never work That's where I draw the line Charlie. That's where I know you're making fun of us now. A little bit of a little bit of his personal life. He's personal life. Oh! Before the creation of United Ass. That's how I knew it.

United Ass is the name of my porn production company. That's not good. You're good at United Ass. That means you're going to hit strife. Yes, that's not okay. Before the creation of United Artists, Chaplin married for the first time. The 17-year-old actress, Mildred Harris, had revealed that she was pregnant with his child, and in September of 1918 he married her quietly in Los Angeles to avoid controversy.

Ah, these are Sam's film guy. That's how he does it. He does everything quietly. He's one of those people that just like Accidentally sneaks up on you. You know, he's always startling you. He's so quiet getting your pregnant. Yeah, he's always getting your pregnant Startling you oh No, soon after the pregnancy was found to be a false alarm Chaplin was unhappy with the union and feeling that marriage stunted his creativity. He struggled over the production of his film sunny side that marriage stunted his creativity, he struggled over the production of his film, Sunny Side. Harris was by then legitimately pregnant and on the 7th of July 1919 she gave birth to

a son. Norman Spencer Chaplin was born but unfortunately died three days later. He was quite ill. The marriage eventually entered in April of 1920 with Chaplin explaining in his autobiography that they were irreconcilably irreconcilably. There's a sentence, a word missing from that sentence, irreconcilably. Miss matched. I just couldn't get the word irreconcilably. Sorry, I didn't have a notice. Oh really? I couldn't say it.

Well, I think you're going to said that they were in Rekasaira bull. I can't say in Rekasaira, it's irreconcilably. Yeah. It's not what you were saying. No, I was putting an in in there. I don't know. I'm sorry. While making the gold rush, is that a movie? A title of that one. Rekasair. Um, Chaplin made for the second time. Mirro... Bridget Fonda. No?

No. Hmm. Who are you thinking of? Bridget Fonda. Sorry, yes. That's who you're thinking of. Um, mirroring the second sense of his first union. Uh-oh.

Lisa Gray was a teenage actress. Oh my goodness. Originally set to star in the film, whose surprise announcement of pregnancy forced Chaplin into marriage. How old is he at this time? He was 35, she was 16. Oh no, no, why isn't that known? It meant that he could have been charged with statutory rape under California law.

So... But he wasn't. He therefore arranged a discrete marriage in Mexico, and their first son, Charles Spencer Chaplin, Jr. was born on the 5th of May 1925, followed by Sydney Earle Chaplin, who is later on the 3rd of March 26th of the next year. 16 to 35. Like, what would you talk about?

You know, you just don't have the same interests. Well, they're both actors. What are you doing at school? That's far. That's fucked. I know. It was unhappy marriage. And chaplain spent long hours at the studio to avoid seeing his wife.

Oh, I just felt it's to read. It's not nice. In November of 26, Gray took the children and left their family home. A bit of divorce followed, in which Gray's application, accusing Chaplin of infidelity abuse and of harboring perverted sexual desires, was leaked to the press. Chaplin was reported to be a state of nervous breakdown as the stories became headline news and groups formed across America calling for his films to be banned. Eager to end the case without further scandal,

Charlie's lawyers agreed to a cash settlement of $600,000, the largest awarded by American courts at that time. His fan base was strong enough to survive the incident, which is good, isn't it? And it was soon forgotten. Oh my God. This is sort of forgotten and brushed over.

But obviously, Charlie was deeply affected by it apparently. Before the divorce suit was filed, Chaplin had begun working on his new film The Circus. He built a story around the idea of walking a tightrope while besieged by monkeys and turned the treb into the accidental star of a circus. Filming was suspended for 10 months so while he dealt with the divorce scandal and it was generally a pretty troubled written production like it was just a bit of a mess. It was finally completed in 1927 and the circus was released in 28 to a very positive reception. At the first Academy Awards, Chaplin was given a special trophy for versatility and genius in acting, writing, directing and producing the circus. Despite its success, he permanently associated the film with the stress of its production and he emitted the circus from his autobiography and he hated the film.

He struggled to work on the, he had to do like the score, we were recording the several years later and he they really struggled with that as well He just doesn't even count it. Wow very weird By the time the circus was released though Holly Wood had witnessed the introduction of sound films Or as they were known then sound ease sound is very good Chaplin was cynical about the new medium and technical shortcomings it presented, believing that talkies... Oh, interesting. That must be the American term. We call them Sandeys.

Talkies liked the artistry of silent film. They're just a fad. Don't worry about it, mate. They won't last. They won't last. Oh, no. Like 3-day film. Yeah. Or the internet. He feared that giving the tram a voice would limit his international appeal. Therefore, he rejected the new Hollywood craze and began to work on a new silent film. Yeah, this guy gets it. He makes this

make sense. When filming began at the end of 1928, Chaplin had been working on the story for almost a year, and this one was called City Lights, and it followed the tram's love for a blind flower girl, and his efforts to raise money for her site-saving operation. It was a challenging production that lasted 21 months, with Chaplin later confessing that he had worked himself into a neurotic state of wanting perfection. Wow, for a guy that used to make a film a week, 21 months on one silent movie, it was a long time. I think it's because they used to be really, really short

and now they're sort of feature-length, or they're longer. Yeah. It's amazing to think that there was a time where people thought, yeah, these sound movies, talkies as the, as the yanks call. They won't last. They won't last. It's so funny. Yeah. It's like like now They couldn't have been anything more obvious than yeah, it was the death of silent film But what was the silent film a couple of years ago that one of what the artist the artist was about me

Was that about you? Yeah, I'm insane about I shouldn't do you get any royalties from that? Still bloody waiting, mate. It's hard to talk to them they won't say a word yeah you know what those bloody yeah they do not reply to my my voice my voice my voice my voice my alright guys to me again I'm wondering if I can have a bit of cash for that movie You know my number. Do you? Do you know it? I won't say it. Oh yeah. So yeah, so this maybe kind of he worked himself into a real estate, but it became his personal favorite of his films and yeah, all through his life he sort of credited civil rights as his favorite. It was quite successful, but he was unsure if he could make another picture without dialogue. So he's literally less, and he's like, okay, so the talkies of Sucker Ant.

He remained convinced that Sound would not work in his films, but was always obsessed by a depressing fear of being old-fashioned, which I quite like. Mate, this is exactly the kind of thing that will make you old-fashioned. That fear needs to really kick in. Yeah. In this state of uncertainty, early in 1931, the comedian decided to take a holiday and ended up traveling for around 16 months. He recalled that on his return to LA, I was confused and without plan, restless and

conscious of extreme loneliness. He briefly considered retiring and moving to China. I mean, I've had brief thoughts like that, but I don't know how brief. Think about that for about 10 seconds. How do I go? Could I retire? No. Could I retire and move to China? I can't retire now. No, I can't.

I'm on every money. I'm not sure I can pay rent. I probably can't retire now. I'm on every money. I'm near I'm not sure I can pay for it. I probably can't retire yet. I could see Chinese exchange rate. Am I a millionaire? Am I a millionaire? Are you googling where am I a millionaire? This is my bank balance.

Where am I a millionaire? That's a fun game. That is a fun game. Actually, yeah, let's do that later. Anyway, um... Million yen later anyway. Million yen. Yeah, how much is that? Oh, thousands. Yeah, I don't know that.

Oh, that's sad. Chaplin's loneliness was relieved when he met 21-year-old actress, Paulette Goddard in July of 1932. So, at least she's 21. So, is he divorced the other one's left, sorry, she's not the big payout? And they, like this, the pair begun a successful relationship. Oh, that's nice. After months of trying, it was finally a success. He wasn't quite ready to commit to a film and he focused on writing a serial about his travels This is so good published in women's home companion Which I just like to add is like new idea or like women's day

He's like oh women's home companion home companion Dave gives a pawn He was a pawn Women's home Women's bone There we go You're getting it Very Very good, Maddie. Was that kind of it, Dave?

Women's home companion. Sex toy inside. There you go. So following the release of his film Modern Times, Chaplin left with Goddard for a trip to the far east. The couple had refused to comment on the nature of their relationship and it was not known whether they were married or not. So we go so far east that they arrived back home again? Oh yeah, they just kept going.

By 19, yeah, they went so far east that they ended up slightly west. Where did that all, what did Weston East start, Dave, you know, about that? Like where was seen as being the middle part where they said east is that way and west is that is that how it worked? Yeah, I imagine Europe because that's where everything was based around right centuries So the east aegis to the east east of Europe. Yeah, I wasn't gonna say anything and then the Middle East is between Europe and Asia right and then the West is just Europe. Yeah I guess that's West. But there's also East and Western Rome. That's going to be imposing. Oh that's right yeah because why don't really spread it in the

East. Really spread it all the way East and then split yeah. Maybe that's why. So they've got on a whirlwind adventure. They're on a trip and confirmed whether they're married or not. Sometimes later Charlie revealed that they had got married during this trip. But by 1938, the couple had drifted apart as both focused heavily on their work. Although Goddard was again his leading lady in his next feature film, The Great Dictator. She eventually divorced Chaplin in Mexico of 1942, citing incompatibility. And yeah, so he's not a good person. He's done it again. It's always weird when you have to say the reason.

I thought you were not. Do I need one? Yeah, why do you need a reason? He says it's always irreconcilable differences. That's what they always say. That's the classic. Which makes sense. That's why people break up.

We can't. We can't. Can't work out these differences we've got. Yeah, but it is funny to get a proper word on it. You've got to put a word. Yeah, just don't want to. Yeah. Don't want anymore. I'm over it.

I guess because a legal thing. I don't like him anymore. That should be enough. Yeah. No more love. Yeah, we don't love each other. It's probably not healthy for us to be together anymore. Just pop that down.

It's more concise. I just read some old newspaper and found out that he's basically a predate a child molester predator. And that, I'll just sort of... That upset me a little bit. Charlie Chaplin, why is he still working or and or married to me? Yeah, both of those don't sit well.

Well, it's a big question. Could sum that up in one word, incompatible. There we are. See, it's more concise. Could sum that up in one word. Incompatible. There we are. See, it's more concise. In brackets with a petafile. Incompatible with a petafile. The 1940s, the 1940s,

was one of these! Oh my god, he lived long enough for this. The year was the 1940s, see? And Chaplin faced a series of controversies, both in his work and in his personal life, which changed his fortunes and severely affected his popularity in the United States. The first of these was a new boldness in expressing his political beliefs, deeply disturbed by the surge of militaristic nationalism in the 1930s world politics, Chaplin found

that he could not keep these issues out of his work. Parallels between himself and that old Hitler had been widely noted that the pair were born four days apart, both had risen from property to world prominence, and Hitler wore the same toothbrush and mustache as Chaplin. Hmm. By the way, they were never seen in the same room. Really? Oh, interesting. Is that interesting. Really? Oh, interesting.

Is it interesting Dave? Oh, I know, I was just waiting for it. Now let me just say, I know. I've met a lot of jokes on this show, but I've got a confession. Davey, crying? Yes. Hey. I have to come out and say that I Am not a Nazi sympathizer. What?

What are you and I know we've been I've been playing along with it We made a joke very early on and I've had to play this this character that's been dictated to me Dave don't Fuck with me on this we've been doing this for 86 weeks. I've got it. No. I'm sorry. I've got to come out I'm coming out of the closet the Nazi closet. I'm not a Nazi. You know, I was so confused. No, I always had my suspicions that he was going along with it for our benefit. Why would you go along with it if you weren't just right into it? Because he's brave. And Dave Dave I just want you to know that

regardless of this new news that you are not a Nazi sympathizer. Thank you that's the truth. I just want you to know that I love and accept you. You still respect me? Absolutely. I'm still funny. If not without this little gimmick. I think I think I accept you and respect you more for not being an answer. No, to be honest, looking back, there were signs. There were signs when you would make, we would make the jokes and he would protest. Was that the sign? No, there were just times where he definitely could have shown signs

of upholding the Reich and he didn't. He chose to be more. He did show love a lot of times when he could have shown hate. And I should have probably thought then that maybe, maybe he isn't who we thought he was after all. Yeah, so I mean, this is an exciting time. So let's move forward then with our Chaplin Report.

And now Dave, the fun part is, if more Hitler references come up, you hit the bloody pile on with us. Great, I fucking hate that guy. Yay! Nobody likes Hitler! What a dick bag, am I right? Yeah, I'm son. Do you see it?

Do you see it now? Yeah, but I mean, was Hitler back? Ah, can't see on the show. No, because the Nazis on the show. LAUGHTER Please take this burden! Was he though? Yeah, let's share it around. We'll take a year-y, 86 episodes each. That would be great!

Being the sympathizer. Anyway, guys, anyway, so the physical resemblance, obviously, between them supplied the plot for Chaplin's next film, the great dictator, which directly satirized Hitler and attacked fascism. I mean, my Euro Slaps de格特 and you're really taken on the big issues. And I respect that. So he spent- Also quite a run of these attacking fascism.

Yeah. Good one. He spent two years developing the script and filming started in September of 1939. Six days after Britain declared war on Germany. He had finally given it into using spoken dialogue, partly out of acceptance that he had no other choice. Now we can speak German. But also because he recognized it as a better method for delivering a political message. Is there anything but spoken dialogue?

I guess there is, right? So the written stuff on the screen, that's the dialogue. Of course. Spoken dialogue sounded really fun. Like, yeah. Yeah, the Academy Award for Best Script to Spade on the Screen. Well, yeah, it's about, yeah,

because before they would have been, you know, when it came up with the title screen, it's still dialogue. And he thought for the title screen, that's so dialed. And he thought for a little while that that was gonna see off. This is all we need. This is all we need. So.

Amazing. I wonder what he thought about color, because there were people when color came in, they said the same, they're like, it's a fad color. Yeah, probably, right? Yeah, it's so funny. Yeah, I did. It's so funny. Making it Yeah, probably, right? Yeah, it's just so funny. Yeah, I did.

It's so funny. And making it easy to call people on the other side of the world, bullshit, they'll never happen. Why would you want to do that? People want to adopt to that. Cheaper phone bills. A good one, right? We're happy paying $600 a month.

Apparently, people thought mobile phones would never take off. Definitely. Well, they were just for business people. That's right. And then they had no idea that teenage kids would be the best. We have a lot of them all day, mate. I'm on it right now.

Just tap it away. Tap it. Some people, I'm always on, I'm on, hacking the mainframe. Some people still think that vaccines are a fad. That's true. We're gonna, they won't take off. All right, let's not get into our own political, uh,

it's too much. Days about to do another hot take, here we go. My hot take is that you should definitely vaccinate your child and if you don't, you're wrong. We've just lost 25% of our audience. I don't know why I think to 25% that's pretty hard. It is, you guys seem reasonable. That's higher than standard. Anyway, making a comedy about Hitler with Stena's highly controversial, but Chaplin's financial independence allowed him to take the risk. He was like whatever, he was determined to go ahead. You were bankrupt my ahead. This is so good, this is such a good quote. He goes, I was determined to go ahead for Hitler must be laughed at. Probably didn't say quite that triumphally, but I think

that's pretty funny. And I agree, we should laugh at that. Yes, we should. But not laugh at me. So Chaplin replaced the tramp, but wore similar att attire with a Jewish barber who was a reference to the Nazi party's belief that he was Jewish. For some reason the Nazi thought Charlie Chaplin was Jewish. So he created this character as a response to that. In a dual performance he also played the dictator, Adanoid Heinkl, who paraded Hitler. So I was laughing at Adanoid. Yeah, Ad, at first letters, Adolf. Adanoid. Hitler. Heinkl. Heinkl. Very good. Took me a while to crack the code.

But also wasn't Hitler a fan of Charlie Chaplin before this movie came out? I heard that he was hurt by it. Oh really? Yeah, he was like, oh! Oh no, I just super thought he was... Oh no! I can't see how easily you fall into the trap. I thought that was kind of cute.

I was like, oh, he was offended by it. That's how he gets here. Much like everyone else was offended by everything you did or stood for. So, okay. Um, which is awww. Cause I imagine like a little cartoon like kid Hitler, like, awww. Guys. Mine friends. I can see the cogs took you ahead like joke, joke, joke.

So it's a joke here. I can't get there it is. Boom. Um, the film generated a huge amount of publicity, a critic for the New York Times calling it the most eagerly awaited picture of the year. And it was one of the biggest money-making, money makers of the era. Made a lot of cash. A lot of screla. The ending was unpopular though, and generated a lot of controversy. A lot of screla. The ending was unpopular though, and generated a lot of controversy itself as well, because Chaplin ended the film with a five minute speech

in which he abandoned his father character, looked directly into the camera and pleaded against war and fascism. I don't know why I'm funny. She's like breaking characters, barrel the camera, I just can't ever rant for a second. I've been saying it,

it's quite a long rant as well. Five minutes. Yeah. That's a long rant. That is a long rant as well. Five minutes. Yeah. That's a long rant. That is a long rant. She says an hour over an hour into the podcast. The great dictator received five Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Original Screenplay and Best Actor.

In the mid-40s, Chaplin was involved in a series of trials that occupied most of his time and significantly affected his public image. The Troublesseam from his affair with an aspiring actress named Joan Barry, with whom he was involved in to mintently between 1941 and the autumn of 1942. Barry, who displayed obsessive behavior and was twice arrested after they separated, reappeared the following year and announced that she was pregnant with Chaplin's child. This just keeps on happening. He is a fertile little bug, isn't he? How old was she? I don't, I'm not 100% sure, but she was not a teenager. Chaplin

denied that the child was his and she filed a paternity suit against him. This is a bit strange. The director of the FBI, Jay Edgahueva, who'd long been suspicious of Chaplin's political leanings. He's crazy though. He's suspected everyone. He used the opportunity to generate negative publicity about Chaplin. So he's like, aha! I've got you. I've got you now Chaplin. I don't know why he has that. He's a super, super good voice. So Barry's child Carol Anne was born in October

of 44 and the paternity suit went to court the following feb. After two arduous trials Chaplin was declared to be the father. Evidence from blood tests which indicated otherwise would not admissible and the judge ordered Chaplin to pay child support until Carol Anne turned 21. So they were still... What are they doing up before DNA? Yeah, it looks like... Looks like you?

It's a boy, so are you. Yeah, who are you getting in there? As witnesses and stuff. I know, it was so... There were blood tests. But they weren't showing, so they weren't... They indicated he wasn't the dad. Yeah, but they weren't they were Inadmissible. Yeah, or whatever the word yeah, isn't that weird? Yeah, so what I mean what was the trial about if they weren't using science

Not so though that Jay Gahuber is suspicious of his leaning even though he's done a five minute rant against Oh, yeah, maybe that's what it was suspicious, maybe thought it was a comedy. Hmm. Um, media coverage of the paternity suit was influenced by the FBI as the information was fed to the prominent gossip columnist, Hedder Hopper, fucking good name, and Charlie was portrayed in an overwhelmingly critical light. So this was really damaging for him. Well, poor thing. The controversy surrounding Chaplin increased when two weeks after the paternity suit was filed, it was announced that he had married his newest protege,

18-year-old Una O'Neill, daughter of the American playwright, Eugene O'Neill. Oh, wow! Chaplin, then 54, had been introduced to her by a film agent seven months earlier. In his autobiography, Charlie described meeting her as the happiest event of my life and claimed to have found perfect love, brutal to the four fixed wives. Chaplin's son Charles Jr reported that Una worshiped his father. The couple remained married until Chaplin's death and had eight children over 18 years. Eight more children. So he was a fan also of her father. Yeah. Eugene O'Neil. I think so, yeah. Yeah. Wow. You know Eugene O'Neil? Yeah, he wrote a long days journey into night, which I think is one

of the best plays I've ever read. Oh, cool. I think he's a three-time Pulitzer Prize winner. Dave, you watch plays, you don't read him. He's so embarrassing, isn't he? Chaplin claimed that the Barry trial had crippled his creativeness. I mean, he keeps blaming lack of creativity on anybody else, like mate, just own it. Sometimes we all go through ruts. Get in the house of mirrors, bud. Yeah, on, mate. And it was sometime before he began working again. In April of 46, he finally began filming a project that had been in development for a couple of years. It was called Missu Vado.

And it was a black comedy of the story of a French bank clerk who loses his job and begins marrying and murdering wealthy widows to support his family. It sounds hilarious. So funny. loses his job and begins marrying and murdering wealthy widows to support his family. The... Sounds hilarious. So funny. Well, his inspiration for the project came from Orson Wells, who wanted him to star in a film about the French serial killer Henri Desiree L'Ontlundrou, I'm so sorry.

L'Ontlundrou. That's right. L'Ontlundrou. L'Ontlundrou. That's right Love That's who it's about Chaplin decided that the concept would make a wonderful comedy and he paid Austin Wells $5,000 for the idea There you go, all sort wow, and that kind of cool. I think that's the main reason I wanted to keep that video It's because I like it. Yeah, I support the idea of Austin well. I like that idea. Here's five grand. Okay. All right have fun

Because you mentioned, you should do a review about this guy. That's a great idea. I'll be pitching him ideas all the time. Oh, that's right. It doesn't get you picks one. Especially when he's in this rut of lack of creativity, he'd be taking anything.

Yeah, and he's like, he's a hundred grand. You're like, thank you. All right, thanks, deal, see ya. Again, he used this film to vocalize his political views and he criticized capitalism and argued that's right. Criticized capitalism after paying $5,000 for a one sentence idea. Very. Fight the power.

Fight the power. Because of this, the film met with controversy when it was released in April of 1947, and he was booed at the premiere, and there were calls for a boycott. Who goes to the premiere to boo? I don't know. It was the first chaplain release that sort of failed both critically and commercially in the US. It was more successful abroad, but it had definitely still affected his reputation in the States, but the screenplay was still nominated at the Academy Awards so it's like it was critically and public like everyone was like this sucks but it's still nominated. In 72? Dave was saying that he helped set up the Academy Awards

right? I think that he was well united out of those that group. So, like Douglas Fairbanks. Yeah, people on the inside. I skipped over a section here where, and don't, like, don't ask me for the exact details, but basically he was denied reentry into the States at one point and didn't go back for like 20 years. I'm afraid I'm gonna need exact details. Ah! I said don't.

It was just like there was already so much information. I grabbed so much, I was like, this report is gonna go for 17 years if I don't just sort of skip ahead. Right, so he's kicked out. Yeah, he was kicked out of the States. It's 20 years. Yeah, so how long does he live? Well, in 1972, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts

and Sciences offered Chaplin and Honorary Award, which was sort of seen as America wanting to make amends, because America kind of turned their back on him a little bit, and that's why he obviously, he was denied reentry and he just stayed away. So he was initially hesitant about accepting, but he decided to return to the US for the first time in 20 years. The visit attracted a large amount of press coverage, and at the Academy Awards Gala, he was given a 12-minute standing ovation. That's too long. Man, I'd hate it. I'd want to sit down. Sounds a little fool. 12 minutes. That doesn't sound right.

It's the longest in the Academy's history. 12 minutes. You could play your off after 25 seconds. That should be the longest in history. This is before they were televised and I'm guessing. Imagine we're gonna go to a break and we'll be back with more standing ovation in just a few minutes. There's fun to jump in. I saw it on YouTube.

He was like you visibly emotionally, he makes an acceptance speech. He accepted his award for the incalculable effect he has had in making motion pictures the art form of this century. That's the name of the award? No, that's just sort of the reason they gave him the award. Don't be a fucking smarter.

No, it's just... When the award was just honorary award. Yeah. So I want to touch on a couple extra things and I'll talk a little bit about his legacy, but we're the end is near, boys. By October of 1977, Chaplin's health had declined to the point that he needed constant care. In the early morning of the 25th of December 1977 Chaplin died at home after suffering a stroke in his sleep. He was 88 years old.

Wow, it's a long time. He lived to 88. The funeral which was a couple of days later on the 27th was a small and private Anglican ceremony. This is, I just find this a little bit weird. On the 1st of March 78, so a year after he'd, not even actually, a couple of months after he was, after he'd died, his coffin was dug up and stolen from its grave by two unemployed immigrants, Roman waters from Poland and Gancho Genev from Bulgaria. The body was held for ransom in an attempt to extort money from Una Chaplin. The pair were caught in a large police operation in May and Chaplin's coffin was found buried in a field in the nearby village of Noville. It was reinterred

in the cemetery where it had been found and it was reinforced by concrete. People stole his coffin. That's weird. For ransom. But only a couple months after they buried him. It's weird. He's already dead. He's not going to be able to pay that ransom. Do you have no knurled? I thought this is through. They're just knocking on the coffin. Ready to pay up yet? We'll put you back in the ground. We just need 10 million. No answer. God, he's stubborn. God, he's played this game before.

He's a silent man after all. Hey, he hates capitalism. He's a silent man. I just want to talk a little bit about his legacy to end with. Fun legacy facts? Wow. In 1998, the film critic Andrew Saras called Chaplin, arguably the single most important artist produced by the cinema. Certainly it's most extraordinary performer and probably

still it's most universal icon. The image of the tramp has become a part of cultural history so according to Simon LeViche the character is recognizable to people who have never seen a Chaplin film and in places where his films were never shown. So the tram is obviously he's most famous. Most famous work. Member Abelia connected to the character still fetches large sums in auctions. In 2006 Ebola hat and bamboo cane that were part of the tram's costume were bought for $140,000 in a Los Angeles auction. Wow, and he hated capitalism. In the 21st century, several of Chaplin's films are still regarded as classics and among the greatest ever made.

The 2012 siten-sound poll, which compiles the top 10 ballots from film critics and directors to determine each group's most acclaimed films, saw city lights rank amongst the the critics tops 50, modern times inside the top 100 and the great dictator and the gold rush placed in the top 250. That's kind of cool. In other tributes, a minor planet was discovered in 1981 and named after him. It's called 3623 Chaplin. That's pretty cool. Oh, you got a planet name after him.

A planet named after him. From the film industry, Chaplin received a special golden lion at the Venice Film Festival in 1972. And a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Lincoln Center Film Society, the same year. The latter has since been presented annually to filmmakers as the Chaplin Award. So it's now named after him. He was given a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 1972, having previously been excluded because of his political beliefs

But then they were like will turn a blind eye. So the political beliefs were the anti-capitalism commy stuff. He was a some sort of a commy I guess so Political beliefs or it all was it that he was anti-hit-lock It was that stancy took in the great dictator. They were like, not all. Come on, mate. This is not how Hollywood behaves. So that is the story of Charles Spencer Chaplin.

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