Do Go On - 87 - Ken McElroy: 'The Town Bully'

Episode Date: June 21, 2017

Do you have a secret? The town of Skidmore, Missouri does and it centres around their town bully, Ken McElroy. A story of violence and intimidation in a small town.Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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the GI Bill. Now is the time. Mycomputercareer.edu This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit PlanetBcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Doo Go On. My name is Dave Wonicky and I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Team? How are you doing? Team. Doing pretty well, thank you. I'm going.

No, Matt, you have to start the sentence with team. Okay. Team. You can speak normally after that. Right. It's kind of like when you speak into a walkie-talkie and you have to say over. Okay. At the end. But now you have to say team start and then over at the end. Please over. Uh, fuck. Team. Um, going well. I forgot the question. Is that yeah? Yeah. Oh, this is no good. This is no good. No good. Over. What have I done? What have you done? I'm sorry.

But it is great to be back. Have we broken the course and the curse? Have we passed the course and broken the curse? Broken the Ferris curse. Yeah. Already. It's been already. Been really, what a year and a half since.

Already. Yeah. Doesn't it fly? For the long times, as people curse by the Ferris. Time flies when you're cursed. It does. One of the many curses. Yeah, one of the elements. You don't get to enjoy life.

Yeah, because you cursed. I'm real good. I don't know about you, but I'm really full of the Indian delight that we just ate. Oh, geez, we've got a Danor Finer here. How many? Cuffter balls. Yeah. In a sauce of some sort.

Medium, not mild. We went medium because we're pretty- No, it's spicy at all. Medium. Yeah, I reckon we can go turn it up a notch. I reckon the other one was spicy and that was mild. Yeah, it wasn't that hot. The kids happening, doesn't it?

Yeah. Anyway, this is fascinating for the listeners. We ate, we shared an Indian meal before we recorded it. We shared more than that. I had a garlic non. What else do we share? Love. And semoses.

Samosas. Sorry, that's what I was thinking. Come on. I get those two confused all the time as well. We do. I'm supposed to you. Dad. Oh no.

I'm so aggressive. Why are you telling your dad you love him so aggressively? I love you, father. And he throws us the most. Eat up, dad. No, I eat up. That's so threatening. Sorry.

Never apologize. You're a threatening presence, Dave. I've always had that. I think anything you say would feel threatening to your dad. Agreed. Now, have you been up all night? Because how are you?

If you're looking at Jess when you're asking me that, that's it. Well, Jess, have you been normal here, Matt? I just want to have a sweet segue into you been up all night uploading YouTube videos to our YouTube channel. Oh yeah. A couple of weeks, a few weeks back. Yeah, a little while back now. I've been putting up one a day. And there's a few listeners who are going on there and most occasions writing Pugo on or Pugo on or

Saints by 30 Saints by 30 is on every video. I love it Pugo on And then someone and the next video they wrote like the first one I said to Pugo on then episode two was like Pugo on in brackets I said I'd do this It's their life's quest. Do you know what's great is that it pops up on the web series that I did a couple of years ago as well, especially on your episode Dave and your episode Matt, people will write like, do go on or like, poo go on.

That's very cute. That's our fist one with you. I'm like, yes, we do know each other. Yes, we do. People also are doing hashtag pray for Bob. Yeah, that's good, because I need it. Angus is saying, it's worth 30. Lando is saying, poo go on. I love you, Lando. Angus is saying, saying, say, what 30 land is saying to go on. I love you land

And Matthew is saying hashtag pray for Bob. It's nice My favorite part about the whole YouTube channel is the bit of the YouTube saga in that we now have a YouTube channel And for the 80s people keep saying why have you taken down a YouTube channel just to get the record straight? We never had a YouTube channel. There was a pirate YouTube channel with a very homemade logo which I enjoyed. As opposed to it. You enjoyed it because it was just pictures of you. It was. It picked it. Got a picture of me at Google Images and then written Dougal on the next one. I was like, this is how the show should be pointed. But it's also funny that you're making fun of it for being homemade. Where did our one get made? Where did our official logo go? In a professional studio.

Yes, thank you. God. Oh, yeah. You've never known. Ausley is very homemade. So, um, we are getting a pro to get updated to make Dave's the shoddy work. Take it up to scratch. Yeah, we are. We are so sorry for the shoddy work.

All right, would you like to do everything? No, thank you. Those hunt, would you like to do everything? No, thank you. Those dozens of images on our YouTube channel that I made them all. I like those. I did not know how to do that. Yeah, those ones are great. I'll take it all back.

Thank you. Thank you. But anyway, if you want to get involved with your own YouTube now, you can subscribe to our channel. We're also going to be putting up other videos and stuff, you know, throughout the rest of the year, maybe. Maybe, no promises. Yeah, no promises. Please don't hold me to that. You should do. You should get on there and subscribe. That would be cool. We are closing in on the subscribers that the pirate you should have had. We would like to overtake them.

I like it. Yeah, pirate. I'm sure it was just a just some lovely fan. I don't think it was. I actually think a bot put it together somehow. Somehow there's a bot trolling the internet for pods and turning them into YouTube's. Yeah, probably just scrolling and ads and stuff. Yeah. Because they were putting in their videos. They were throwing ads every five minutes or something. There was a lot of red lines. What ads. Interesting. We wouldn't do that. This week's episode is brought to you. Our YouTube channel, check it out. Hey, let's get into the show. All right, Matt, your turn to report. Yes, it is. And you know how I always ask the the best questions. That's true. That's the probably your claim to fame, which I enjoy. Yep.

So the question this week is maybe the best one I've ever asked and it's it's it's pretty vague and it's and it's not gonna it's unlikely that your answer is gonna be the topic. Great. I'd almost guarantee that it won't be unless there's been a you know a real weird quirk of fate but here's the question What is the biggest secret you've ever kept? Oh God My real identity I am secretly Spanish tennis superstar Juan Carlos Ferreros. Oh great name How do you go, boy? Do you did you have that ready to go? Do you look like him? Is that just you? I don't look like it starting a sentence in

I was I was a secret for a while look like him? Is that just you starting ascendants in somewhere? Yes, the same where it goes. I was, I was a secret for a while with my, uh, my first boyfriend. Oh! A shame to be with you. For a loss. There's a difference between a secret and a secret shame. Yeah, I was a secret shame. Was he cheating on someone with you?

No. Oh, okay. As a need didn't tell his parents. Oh. For a year. He didn't tell his parents. He didn't tell his parents. He didn't tell his parents for a year He didn't tell his parents he was trading on someone with you for a whole year So for a whole year. Yeah, yeah I mean, it's funny, but it's also like what was the problem? Well, the problem was me, but there's a good thing you couldn't have any boy for any girlfriend or because of you

But there's a thing you couldn't have any boy for any girlfriend or because of you No, no, it wasn't was he like a acidic Jew or something and you weren't of the right was he an acidic Jude is that not a thing? I said her city. Yeah It's a little bit like you said acid Well, maybe I did he's gonna work at his pH level. It's all over the shop. Oh, it's so acidic He's got acid reflux all the time. Real or Serbic juice. So acidic. Was it a religion?

No, no, no, no. I think it was just, I don't know. I really don't know. Were you young? We quite young. Yeah, high school. So 17. Well, probably 18 to 19.

And he couldn't tell his parents. No, nothing couldn't. It was a troze not to. All right, that's even worse. They were very nice once they knew what this is. Did you ever bring it up? Yeah. Did he seem to like you day to day?

Uh, well yeah, he stayed with me for a fair the five years after that. Did you ever stay over? So, no, God no. Because that would be amazing. This is my sister. Um, okay. What is it? I think we would know. This is my sister. He. I think we would know.

This is my sister. He's saying I do his parents. I get what that's for. Anyway, this is the story. I get what it's for. One time when I was in a band, when I was 14 and we were at a recording studio for one day to record something, I was in the John, or the toilet,

and he said that like, or as you, the idiots like to call me translate. The bathroom. I knocked a, they had extra toilet rolls sitting on top of the toilet, and I knocked one into the bowl, and I didn't know what to do. So I hit it behind the system, behind the system, behind the toilet, and I ran out, and I haven't told anyone since let it dry out Even though it'd been in my pissy bowl All right, you want to my confession now you look at me like you don't know I didn't

If anyone wants to know what regret face sounds like This is it Mac can you tell us your biggest secret? No, okay? Interesting, I'm not because I keep mine. Oh no good. I'm like, you buddy, Luke slips over here. In my defense, I was the secret in mine. So I kind of kept me, didn't I? My secret is that if I really want something and I picture it, I just get it. No, that's the secret. Sorry.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So this week's episode is sort of about a secret. It builds up to that, but I just, just for a little bit of sizzle on that, I was gonna read out the opening paragraph from a Washington Post article about this story. Wow, that's cool.

Which really got me hooked into it very quickly. Should I, I should say, this was suggested by listener Josh at Josh Jones 87 on Twitter. He suggested a few few. I think this might be the first one that's got through. Get on your Josh. Spam that hat. We just had the same thing. Oh my goodness. What are the odds? With somebody that you spend so much time with that we would possibly think the same thing. But do you really know me? I think I do. After the way I treated that boy. Do you reckon we are the people that you spend the most time with, aside from your girlfriend who you live with? And your work mates? Oh good one. Yeah, I'm at work 47 hours a week. Yeah, it's probably a lot. But socially. I'd put this on. It's Peter Helia number two after you. It would maybe second in charge

if your girlfriend left your house. Yeah, would you? you yep I trust Pete okay so this is the opening paragraph from it's a very short paragraph really but it's from this Washington Post article I quite enjoyed okay I read a bunch of articles I quite enjoyed this is a real fascinating story anyway here it goes small towns are reputed to be close almost like family residents stick together they have your back they protect you they keep your secrets oh yeah fucking cool and I'm jealous of the listening because I've seen what this episode is called the episode is cool well what I don't know what the episode is gonna be called

I'll probably ask you guys what it should be called But that is a cool cool like that would suck me into But the episode is about or the suggestion was just two words the name of this man can McElroy McElroy He's already stopped Have I built up enough Ten seals It's the secret that you've been mispronouncing his name the whole time.

Yeah, it's written in this report a lot. If you guys... It's Maccarroy. I don't know. Have you heard of Ken Maccarroy? I have not. Ken Rex Maccarroy was born on June the 1st, 1934 in No to a County, Missouri in the United States of America, the old US, old A- of America the old US old America I've read that he was the 15th child and a family of 16 but I've also read that he was one of 13 kids both too many kids You know how I feel about big family. Yes, do they know what was causing it? That's my favorite joke of all time. I don't say that, dad will hear that and go,

Oh, that was a John joke. It's a John joke. That's great. Do I know what's cool? I love it. I love it. I feel like you're funny. That's why you get all to get to it. Ken's parents were farmers named Tony and Mabel. Mabel.

Tony's pretty good. Not good enough. Hang on, but Tony was the one who I was a secret before, so he said it was Tony, so. You named and shamed. Fuck it. But Mabel, good name. Tony's also the one who's been causing it, but they don't know what it is. I should be a second, now I get it.

Sex. Yeah, with Mabel. The best guy. He grew up in Skidmore in the northwest of Missouri about a hundred miles from Kansas City. I'd I'd name the town Skidmark. Skidmark. Oh, It's a real big tree. It's a real big tree. It's a real big tree. It's a real big tree. Skidmore is a really small town. It's got a population that has steadily shrunk from around 500 in at the 1940 census to an estimated 272 around in 2015. It's a real big tree.

It's a real big tree. It's a couple years ago. The rest of them got flushed. I said, it's a skid park. I don't know what I took. You thought you were talking about cars. Oh. So you were like, what could that possibly have to do with cars? I'm confused by both of you.

Sorry, I'll stop contributing. He dropped out of school in year eight at the age of 15, and over the following decades he established a reputation in the town as a real bad guy, being accused of burglary of things like booze, grain, petrol and livestock. It's a cattle rustler. That's stealing quite a bit. Of a real variety of things. Apparently there's also a bit of a raccoon hunter.

Sure. Is that legal? I think that one might be fine. I don't think that one is raptured. That was just on these list of hobbies. Yeah, I think that's how we made some of his money. He also enjoyed NFL. To be honest, there's been like across all the reports who are inconsistencies throughout, but there were things that sort of flowed through them all.

So I've tried to keep it all together. I think the story is, you know, is relatively level, but we'll let me go on. He was reportedly always basically unemployed, yet never short of cash. He used to carry out wads of cash. Is that because because he's a criminal who's getting up. Yeah, I think the idea is that he yeah There was one wag who said when someone was wagza That's what people say sometimes and someone says a funny quip. They're a wagge. Oh, what a wagg And I it's an old person term right? That's why I said it. Yeah Um, but it's someone someone someone said that he was talking about some of the jobs he had he used to sell antiques and stuff and someone go, a local guy's,

yeah, but who's antiques? Oh, who's antiques? What a whack. Don't jump in. And teeks. That's like a person's ear now. Dave's a bit of a wag. Oh, yes it is. Can we all do that any time one of us makes a joke now for the rest of the episode that will not get boring to the listeners at all.

Oh, very good. I've looked on voting now. Okay, interesting. But. This is a democracy, I'm voting no. Okay, interesting. But this is a democracy, so I respect it. It wasn't like he escaped the attention of the authorities though, on 21 occasions, charges were brought upon him, but on every occasion he escaped conviction. 21 times. Blackjack.

Yeah, all right, you know the rules 21 times off. You can't get me for anything. Basically anyway, what do you mean that's not a rule? So many. That's all right. I'm just remembering you guys like how are your short reports always so long? It's because it's because I think I think you guys quip after every sentence and sometimes mid sentence, which is fine. I enjoy it. But I'm just... Can I just stop you there to do a quip? Yes, can I just quip you there? I'll quip you right there, sir. So I said 21, but yeah, on the 21st occasion was a little bit different, and I'll talk about that later.

His attorney, Richard McFadden, later said that he defended Rex Ken Rex from about three or four felony convictions a year. Oh, so he's keeping him in work practically. Is he just following Ken around? I think he has. It's like picking up case with. He's from one of the bigger towns in the state, but yeah, I think he must just come down

on, he's on retainer. Ken, how are you? Yeah, what do we got for him? What are we doing? Give me a water cash. Oh, you've had a haircut. He's also, yeah, probably bragged about how he's also defended members of the mob as well this guy.

So he got bad people off. If I mean, I'm being a bit judged out, I don't know if the mob are necessarily bad people. He got bad people off duty Everyone's got their price That is classic Wag. What a clip Quip His lawyer was obviously very good at getting criminals off But that wasn't the only reason

criminals off. But that wasn't the only reason McElroy escaped conviction on serious charges every year. He became known as the town bully. That was his nickname, the town bully. What did he know? What did he know? What did he have? He might have become known as that. Yeah, I've been weird if people call him. T.B, what up? Damn bully. But he got that nickname as he would intimidate any town's people who stood up to him or disagree with him. And this included people who were set to testify against him in court. Now, he wasn't afraid to resort to violence either or threats of violence.

I wonder how he would intimidate. Like maybe he would just put on a sheet and stand up there doing a... Woo! He was a huge guy, big tall guy, big mussely guy. like maybe he would just put on a sheet and stand there doing a ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo One of the ways apparently that he often did it apart from you know gone hey check out my gun he checked out my gun I'm not testifying he would also follow witnesses and accusers around park outside their their homes and just watch them good that is into it that is like it should be illegal. Shouldn't they stop him from this? Yeah, well this is the main thing.

It seems like the cops hassled him a lot. And they, like, he charges abroad against him, but he kept getting off. He never was put away, but he was spent a lot of time in the legal system. In 1976, when Makaroy was a cute, can you hear the slight pause every time I say that? Yeah. It's like every time I say Tim's. McElroy, it's great name, but she's it. Looks like McElroy, no it doesn't.

McElroy, in 1976 when McElroy was accused of shooting local farmer Remain Henry in the chest. He was charged with assault, with intent to kill. So apparently the story was that McElroy was on this guy, Henry's property, and Henry's gone, mate, piss off. Get off my property and he goes, nah, and shot him. Something up.

Like to be honest, some kind of paraphrasing, but that was basically it was. According to Henry in the lead up to the trial, McCulleroy parked outside Henry's home on more than 100 occasions. Oh, 100. This is a corner Henry. I don't know, I don't know if I'll be Henry was after shooting him 100 times he parked that front. Yeah. Do you know what? Go on. You should drop these charges. That's really scary. Yeah. 100 times. But yeah, I don't know, like this is Henry's word. I don't know who he is and whether or not he's prone to hyperberely. Hyperbally.

But did it work? Did it drop the charges? He didn't drop the charges. Legend. Henry was like, no mate. But in court two Rikun hunters gave Makalroy an alibi. What? Testifying they were with Makalroy the day of the shooting. Makalroy was acquitted. Are you serious? Yeah, so he wasn't able to intimidate Henry, but maybe he was

able to influence the racoon hunters. Goddamn. When McElroy was in his late 30s, can I call a maybe a call him Ken Rex, because that's what he was sort of known as around town. What of his more comfortable for you? When Ken Rex was in his late 30s He'd already fathered more than 10 children to multiple women and it was married to his third wife Alice Yeah, this bits a bit Fuck sorry Not that bit is next bit. No I forget yeah, you don't like having a lot of kids even if it's in multiple families. No No, that's... I don't know, it's more that he's just, yeah, just got all these different women, but all of these different women in a very difficult situation.

In different, yeah, he's just a big, intimidating guy, and it's just, I mean, without knowing the facts. Lucky third wife, Alice. Yeah, well... Okay, oh no, oh no, Alice. Yeah, well, okay. Oh no. Oh no. Alice does not fear well. No, Alice is okay. Okay.

So at this time, he's married who's third wife Alice. Alice, I've read she can't even be sure if they were legally married or not. But anyway, she can't be sure. That's some wedding night. I don't even know what we got married yesterday. Woo! Anyway, Zat, at this time, he met a 12-year-old girl named Trina McLeod, and within a couple of years, she was pregnant.

He then brought Trina to his house to live with him and Alice He divorced yeah, he divorced Alice to marry trainer But they still live together Apparently apparently this was because as his wife the court wouldn't be able to compel Trainer to testify against him in the statutory rape case. But like, but you also, can you marry a 14 year old? As she was underage, though, he wasn't able to marry her without parental consent. So there are a few conflicting versions of what happened next, but many of them

suggest that Ken Rex went to her parents' house while they were away Shot the family dog and burnt the house down. Oh shit. Whoa! Why? To get them to say yes. Some some say that he did that after they He sort of intimidated them and some of them said before to try and intimidate them into Saying yes, some said that he did that. They still refuse any threat and to burn down their new house and that's what got them to. Like there was a few different sort of stories and a lot of them come back to like there's a lot of different articles about this but they're quoting few very few sources. So it's hard to know exactly what to trust. In a People magazine article, Trina angrily denied that Ken burnt down her stepfather's house, saying it was an

unfounded rumor, because she said it was just faulty wiring. She's 14. She doesn't know what unfounded means. Yeah, I mean, she's saying this years later, but at the time, who knows, you know, if he's keeping that from her, like, I don't think she was there. Yeah. So it's just hard to know oh Yeah, man. I'm hoping that something really bad is gonna happen to this dude However, Mac. I've no clue. Send with his face However, it did happen she got consent from the parents and and they were married and

Chargers against McAroy at that time for statutory rape and arthand amongst other things didn't stick. That was some of those earlier charges that didn't result in jail time or any conviction at all. In 1980 this is sort of where it starts hotting up a bit. This is kind of the key part of the story. In 1980, at a grocery store in town, one of Ken Rex's daughters got in a fight with a worker at the shop named Evelyn Sumi. Did that make sense? Okay, good, fun. In 1980, at a grocery store in town, one of McElroy's daughters got caught up in an argument with a worker at the shop. Her name was Evelyn Sumi. The store was owned by an elderly couple. Ernest and Lois.

They are so cute. I reckon they do crosswords together every Sunday morning. There is some sort of vibe about those. I reckon they're bloody adorable. They're just like a sweet old couple, you know? I just trust them. I reckon they're still in love. After all this time, you know, like he still makes her laugh and you know I know I

love them sorry I'm not too good one no that's that's for I just want to be like Ernest and Lois I mean I can only that apparently they were very well loved in the town Ernest Nick Nam was bow I was gonna call him Ernie but bow is good. You're not going to love this next bit. After the incident, Ken Rex started stalking the bow and camp family. The stalking escalated into McElroy confronting Ernest bow bow and camp armed with a shotgun. And the confrontation ended with McElroy shooting the 70 year old bone camp in the neck. I mean I'd like to say that and it's pulled through but I'm guessing you probably didn't. Bone camp lived. No. Yeah for the eight minutes.

Do you really? We did he lived. Oh, I'm so happy. This guy's not a great shard, he's not a dude in the chest. He lives in the neck. With a shotgun, Jesus. And Macaroy was then charged with attempted murder. Oh, that's a lot. This was the 21st charge. Oh, lucky 21.

And it went to trial where McElroy was convicted. Unlucky 21. Of the lesser charge of assault for some reason. Well, I mean, we'll take a win when we can. I guess I'm just so glad that bows alive. Bow's alive. I've never been so immediately invested in a person in one of our stories, but I just wanted him to be okay.

And then we got in like this and then he got shot. I was like, I don't know what the world is anymore. He's like, um, he's probably dead now, though. Yeah, I think he's 70 and 1980. He's probably dead. Is there possibility? Oh, I could still be kicking. I guess, but, you know, he had a good innings for a girl, the sorry. I've had a good innings to regard the Saracan. Anyway, this is similar to an episode we had at like a month or so back when it was like... It was one of mine as well, I think, where... For some reason, he's found guilty, basically. He's convicted. But his lawyer filed an appeal and he was released on bail, pending the appeal.

No! I don't know. I don't know. I know. I'd seem so weird. It's like once you've been convicted it feels like then you got a prove your innocence pal. We proved your guilty already. Yeah. Yeah it feels a bit funny. Anyway, but we'll let you out until you can prove your innocent. That makes nice sense at all. Yeah, I don't, I don't quite get it. And in this case, yeah, it's like especially with a guy just shot someone in a shop. Why are you just releasing him back into the community?

You found him guilty. He's convicted as far as I understand. It almost makes it sound like, yeah, anyway, it's very confusing. Very confusing. After being released, Makaroi went to the DNG Tavin. That was his local drinking hole. The DNG.

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Admittedly. You were so fast. You didn't even try again. Dogs and gods. Yeah, different one. Dave and gods. The duck and goose? Fuck, he's good.

That's adorable. Duck and goose is really good. I could have the duck and goose Fuck he's good. That's adorable. I can't do this. I could have duck and goose I bet you that's probably English Okay, all right here we go again the David and Goliath Okay, all right. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I all right, I got it. Dolce and Gabbana. Oh, yeah! Right there, the DNG!

There. I want to get one. Have we done Dog and Gum? No, that's a good one. That's a real one, I'm being there and um. Oh Is that what this one's gonna be called? No, I didn't know what it's called. I should really look that up It's you should see it though. It is a it looks like a shed. No I think I think you just by the end of the episode maybe maybe I think we'll finish the episode with your

Well, Finna will go out with that right at the end because I I think I think that'll be a nice little bow So yes, we'll be silent for the next 35 minutes But see I mean it's got to be I can't be rhyming But they got to go to get like and goose, Devon and Kula. Don't shake a bite, these are all good ones. Okay, who's the famous person that has letters D and G? D- Okay, yeah.

Okay, um, D- No, I got it. Dumber and Gray. F- F- F- F- F-

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and financial aid is available to qualified students including the GI Bill. Now is the time mycomputercareer.edu. Anyway, go on with the story. So we went drinking of the DNG. Yes, so this is sort of regular. He'd often sit there. And I read that people who work this said he'd often be pretty quiet. He was kind of not intimidating in like quite late.

He'd be more likely to whisper at you and just stare at it. Like stare with his dead eyes. People called his eyes dead eyes. A lot. Stare at you with his dead eyes and whispered. That's scary. So he's a whisperer, quiet stareer. Do you have friends, do you reckon?

Does anyone like you? Or is people scared of him? Yeah, I mean, he's from a big family, but I think he gets on all right with his, some of his kids chose to live with him after they split with ex partners. But, you know, it's, there's not. Dad just has, Dad has his more fun mom.

Dad has the guns. You just try to make me eat vegetables. Do my homework. Dad just shoots the vegetables. Dad lets me shoot cans and sometimes other kids Anyway, so is it the D&G Tavin? And he was there armed with a rifle and just the bar drinking there with his gun And I'll allegedly started mouthing off a bit about what he was gonna do to punish Boe,

only Boe and Ken. Uh oh, that's one just likes. For his, for the part he played in his arrest, basically. And I think as far as I can tell, the only party really played in the arrest was being shot in the neck. For getting in the way of my bullet. Which is,

what? Leave any alone. I like him. Nick forgetting in the way of my bullet. Which is... What? Leave any alone. I like him. His appeal? I think the lawyer was sort of using tactics to delay the appeal. So to sort of extend his freedom before the trial. That's how I read it. So the lawyer was doing a lot of...

What's that? What's that out there? Look. No, cordage and do it for a whole sitting day in the court. That's what? Yeah. What's that out there? Look. No, corded, Jan. Do it for a whole sitting day in the court. That's what they do. That's sitting day. I would love to do this trial today,

but I forgot my pen. It's over there. Look. He's been six hours going, look, look. No, look, Mr. we looked, we're not gonna look again. And he's like, now this one, I'm serious. I swear, this is what I'm serious.

I swear, I swear. I swear, I swear. I swear. They're. And he's like, now this one I'm serious. I swear, this one's serious. I swear, I swear. I swear. I swear. I swear. They're looking. He's like, yeah, five o'clock got to go. Back to the DNG. On a summer's morning in 1981, McCulleroy had his appeal hearing delayed, again, extending his freedom.

In response, the townspeople were getting a bit, you know, anxious about it, feeling a bit antsy, maybe a little bit piv-deven. They weren't sure that justice has been done over the last 21 attempts to put this guy away. Interesting, but I may feel that way. And so in response to townspe people met at the Legion Hall. Oh, Town meeting about him.

Yes. Organized by the Towns folk. Towns folk is also just a fun thing to say, isn't it? Can't say that in Melbourne. Come along Towns folk. There's too many of us. Small towns. Not even the MCG is going to hold us.

300 and something people. Then you can't Townsake and they keep talking about it like this town because it's so small It's really close. It's like a big family. Everyone knows each other everyone is sort of looking out for each other They're probably all related and this but they just see this guy. He's just been a real You know real bad seed He's just been a real, you know, real bad seed. So the Legion Hall meeting, what they talked about is 100% clear now,

but from what I heard, most of the same that things were discussed about what they could do to keep the witnesses safe, and also the town's people safe from Ken Racks in general. That's insane that he's that scary and that they have to... At 30, 40, 50, however many people are meeting to talk about. It's like it's all, yeah. It's really interesting.

And apparently local sheriff, the local county sheriff, Dan Estes, was there as well. It is said that sheriff Estes instructed the meeting that they shouldn't get into a direct conflict with Macquarie. So that's a bad idea. And he suggested they instead form a neighborhood watch. And then he left the meeting. Smart. While the meeting was occurring, Macquarie rocked up to the nearby D&G tavern again. So he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's sort of his's had his court thing delayed. Mm-hmm case if you will

A cool thing. Yeah, okay, you're honor. I'm here for that court. Thank you honor. Is that is that a mizuran? That was a terrible accent. Yeah, was that attempted in American accent of sorts? Yeah, I thought it was What would miss? Yeah, I don't know what the mizuran accent be. I think Yuri won the podcast about 26. He was an exact... Was there an accent? So the meeting was occurring. McAroy is rocked up to the DNG Tavern again with his wife trainer now in her early 20s. And word of this came through to the people at the meeting.

They heard that he was down there at the pub. So the townsfolk decided to disregard Sheriff S the meeting. They heard that he was down there with the pub. So the townspeak decided to disregard Sheriff S's as a device. Oh, dear. And they went to the bar with a group, basically filling the bar around him, sitting there with a bar, which I imagine would have been pretty intimidating for. Very awkward, I think.

The guy used to being the intimidated guy, intimidating guy. So he finished up his drink and left the bar with trainer. He climbed back in, he was picked up truck and McAroy turned the ignition of his truck and went to grab a cigarette and in that moment gunshots rang out. So sitting in the truck outside the D&G Tavan on the morning of July 10th, 981, Ken Rex, McAroy was shot in the head,

instantly going from town bullied to town dead guy sitting in his truck. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ahh! Every time he's one. Yeah, and they had this. Trainer later told People Magazine, she said, I started a scream. I said to Ken, they've got a gun. I think he kind of knew what was going to happen. He didn't show any fear. He never said a word.

He's a really interesting character. Wow. Then I read that some of the townspeople sort of took trainer around to the car. Afterwards. No ambulance was called. There were no local cops, you know, the county. The county sheriff's office or whatever.

So they just, you know, shot him and left him there. Wow. But the whole town meeting was around and then people in shops, like a lot of people saw it. According to a report by the McClatchee News Agency, at the scene, county sheriff's deputies and highway patrol troopers found shell casings from a 22 caliber magnum and an 8mm Mauser, which is a German World War I era long-range rifle. What?

So two shooters. Two shooters. They said one shooter had been positioned behind McElroy's truck, another stood a half-bought down the street. Yeah, basically, half-bought down the street. Really? So that's the long-range rifle. And there may have been others. So they said that I think other, they thought that multiple shooters. Wow. Wow. This is amazing. That's incredible. Different reports have suggested there were between 30 and 60 witnesses to the murder. But trainer was the only witness who said they saw who the shooter was.

The rest of the town refused to talk. This is, so this is the big secret. I like the idea of the sheriff. Guys, come on. Who, who did it? Who did, hey, is the big secret. I like the idea of the sheriff, guys, come on. Who did it? Who did, hey! Put your hand up. Okay, I know he was a patio, but you won't be in trouble, just who did it? You won't be in trouble. I just want to know. I just want to know who did come on. People, they, people really wanted to find out because although some would say, you know, he had it coming or whatever, many others say it's never okay to take the law in your own hands. Yeah, and you're not as interesting as

also. There was at least a couple of shooters if not more. Wouldn't you as the shooters also be thinking like, did I like it? Well that's the whole idea when you have someone who's shot. Shooting squad. Shooting squad is that one of them has a blank in their gun. So when you're all fire, you can all tell yourself, I wasn't the one who shot him. So there's 10 people with rifles, one of them has a fake bullet. Only one has a fake bullet.

I've heard it was even more than it was only one. I thought it was one with live and the rest of the fake. That might be wrong. But if you only shoot, if only one person shoots and just gets their arm, then nothing, you know what I mean? But like if 10 people shoot you, it would likely to die very quickly. But also just the fact that 10 people are shooting also means.

Yeah, also, but like you can also, like just have the peace of mind that maybe you weren't the one who killed that man. And you do that every day. And the odds, Yeah, exactly. Every day, every day. Yeah, still, just I keep,

I think I keep getting the blanks. I get the blank every time. Every time. I'm shooting blanks. I'm shooting blanks. What can I say? I do it at home. I do it at work.

I'm shooting blanks. I'm so sad. I just want to kill people and make people pregnant. I can't keep alive. I can't take life. What's the point of it? What's the point of it all? Now it's fun to laugh at firing squads isn't it? You got it, you got it. You got a laugh. If you don't laugh at firing squads you'll cry.

Crying squads. Maybe don't cry. Oh Crying squads. Here, yay, here, yay. Cry-er-ing good. Thank you. A few months earlier, David Baird was asked if he would be keen to be the new prosecuting attorney of Notaway County.

I'm calling so many of the words in this. I'm pronouncing them differently every time. Not away, not away. How did he spell his surname? Bad, B-A-I-R-D. Very good. Bad. Can I hear it in a sentence? So yeah, so he was asked if he'd be keen for that job, the prosecuting attorney of the county.

But he wasn't super keen. He was only 27 he'd be keen for that job, the prosecuting attorney of the county. But he wasn't super keen, he was only 27, just a kid in many ways, he was single, he had the freedom to go anywhere in the world, basically with his work, he just sort of got through law school. So he wasn't super keen to take the job, he didn't want to be locked down in a small town in Missouri near, basically where he grew up.

He was sort of thing exploring, I guess. But his father persuaded him to take the job, basically saying, I'd be pretty cushy, he goes, nothing much happens around here anyway. No, no, it's in the case of the century. Three months later, the murder of Ken Rex McAroy and Skidmore landed bed in the middle of a case that shocked America, making headlines across the country. Soon after bed made the statement, we feel confident that this ultimately in the middle of a case that shocked America, making headlines across the country.

Soon after bad make the statement, we feel confident that this ultimately will be resolved. He was feeling good about it. I like to imagine him sitting at his desk, like listening to all the evidence and he's just got like a pros and cons, like as people say something, he's like, oh, that's a good point. Well, actually, you're on his, oh, very good point of view. It's so funny that he was convinced by his dad gun. It'll be real cushy.

Yeah, he said, but isn't it the whole reason he didn't want to do it? Yeah, he wanted a challenge. It seems strange that you're single, you're young, you do anything you want. You're young, go. Take a cushy job and a tiny town. You're right dad, I'll do it. Yeah. He wasn't based in Skidmore.

He was based in a slightly bigger town but still in a small town. Maybe Mary'sville or something like that. Soon after he convened the first Grand Jury, noteworthy County had seen in 20 years. So he landed with a real bang. There was a huge investigation. The FBI conducted more than a hundred interviews. Plus there was a coroner's inquiry, a local grand jury, and a federal grand jury. All of which failed to return any indictments

despite Trina McElroy fingering Dell Clement, a part owner of the DNG Tavern and a rancher. Dell! Who she said was one of the shooters. DNG. Oh, that's what it'll be. Dell be Dell and the G would be... Graham.

Greg. Fuck. Graham. Now you're right. Dell and Greg is much better. Dell and Greg. I'm just... I'm so dumb on Greg, I think.

So, I was so distracted about you saying that she fingered someone it's still funny every time but what happened one of the she said that one of the owners of the DNG she saw him she's the one she eyeballed and fingered right with Dell Clement part owner of the DNG but despite that despite having her as an eyewitness, no one else corroborated her story. So despite there being a coroner's jury, a local grand jury, and a federal grand jury, and over 100 interviews with the FBI, still... No one cracked. No one cracked.

That's amazing. That's awesome. That is actually incredible that nobody gave in. Out of that many people. Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. So that's basically the story. I mean, what do you guys think? I've got a little bit to talk about.

You'd think someone would cave. Yeah. You would really think somebody would give in. Do you think, where do you stand on that like? I'm amazed actually. Would you crack? Do you think? Or would you be like, because in a way on the other side

you're also the pressures on you to stick together. Yeah, exactly. So you know what I mean? As soon as one cracks then there'd be... Yeah, you're right. You're right. If there's that many, if there's like four of you, I'd probably crack.

And also if you genuinely thought that this guy was making everyone's life hell. And he was. Yeah, no, I can be deserved it. It's a fucking tricky. But I mean that. Absolutely it is. I wonder what, you know, if he was alive to tell the tale,

he probably would have said he was a misunderstood guy. I'm sure he would say that. It sounded like a terrible guy. So Harry McLean wrote a best-selling book about this case, which I think helped bring it to a bigger audience. And when asked about who actually pulled the trigger, McLean said, I personally believe it's a mistake to put too much emphasis on who pulled the trigger, suggesting that if it hadn't happened that day, it would have

been someone else the next day. According to the Washington Post, McLean doesn't think the killing was planned vigilante action on the part of the townspeople He thinks two or three people got impulsive that day and that the town showed its loyalty by closing its ranks around them MacCaroire was buried in Memorial Park cemetery St Joseph in Missouri Missouri is a cool Sounding state in series a cool sounding state. In 1984, trainer filed a wrongful death

lawsuit against the town, the county, the sheriff estes, the mayor, and Dell Clement for millions and millions of dollars. The case was settled out of court without anyone admitting guilt for the relatively modest sum of $17,600. She wanted millions because you do feel bad for the kids. There's heaps of them, right? Yeah. There's heaps of them right? Yeah, there's heaps of kids also he's a wife Who yeah, I mean she She was so young. Oh no, he basically took her out of school

And I train a remarried and is said to have lived a really happy family life Before dying of cancer on a 55th birthday in 2012. Wow. Richard Stratton, a retired Missouri Highway Patrol trooper, had several run-ins with McAroy and has said this of that fateful day. Those were fathers and grandfathers on the street and skidmore that day. Ordinary hard working people. They did what they did because we didn't do our job, we been the cops. Then they went home and kept their mouth shut and kept them close all these years.

These basically saying, I get what they did is because the police force or the sheriff's department and the R.I. patrol. The justice system didn't get the job done. Wow. Bo cam's wife Lois said justice was done at the time. She was, she was, she was fine with it. Wow. But he wasn't murdered in the end wasn't he? He wasn't murdered. He was okay. He threatened to get him again but didn't. And I thought I'm just going to finish with this little quote from a New York Times article, which was by the Cheryl Houston who was I think Bo Camp's daughter, one of his daughters. She said, once the Shroud of Silence fell, there was going to be no one talking. And she actually watched the killing from her family's grocery store.

Wow! But like everyone else, she said she didn't see the gunman. They could have pushed and dug and got nothing. We were so bitter and so angry at the law letting us down that it came to somebody taking matters into their own hands She said no one has any idea what a nightmare we lived Wow Yeah, so it's a it's a it's a fascinating bit super fuck story. Yeah, wow. I'd never heard of any of that No, that is really fascinating and it's still they've still

There's been people have thought really fascinating. And it's still, they've still, they've still been people have thought someone's going to talk on their death. They're going to either want to say, I did it or say, I need to get this off my conscience, but no, it's still no one has. No one feels that it weighs on their conscience. Yeah, I guess that's why. It's such a piece of work. Yeah, they probably, yeah, they're not thinking, I'm not getting in heaven for this. Do you reckon, or whatever, people, makes people do that. Like surely the towns people would still talk about it. Monks themselves, quite mean.

Yeah, quite mean. And do you think the person who did do it is maybe seen as a bit of a hero? Yeah, wonder. And so like they walk into the grocery store and people just kind of give them a nod. Yeah, give them a nod. You know?

I wonder. I wonder. That's, yeah, that is fascinating. Sounds like the town's pretty much died out there. I feel like I'm almost on the town side. I'm 100% happy. Okay, I feel like maybe I was a bad person. I know.

I kind of feel like if it was, as we've sort of talked about it today, and he wasn't just a guy who was demonized somehow, like I'm sort of taking this at face value what I've read. But I'm always part of me is like, you know, history is always pretty dicey. It's written by the victors. Yeah. And I think that's I'm taking it as a story. I'm thinking of it almost as a film. Like in my head, it's all set like to kill a mockingbird. Like that's how I'm picturing

it. I'm even picturing really old cars and stuff like that. Yeah, well there was a TV film made about it called in Broad daylight because the that's when the yeah right murder happened. I mean that's the fact it was like Mid-late morning. Yeah, sun shining heaps of people standing around watching so to me It's just a story. I'll just like a just a movie you're kind of like, yeah, you're side with the town. But if I was the journalist covering this, I would be thinking about it very differently to how I am as a complete outsider, just hearing it as a story.

It really sounds like the author kind of, I think he, the author of the book, who probably is looked into it the most, he seems to be pretty comfortable, I think with what the author of the book, who probably is looked into it the most, he seems to be pretty comfortable, I think, with what the town did. Yeah. But I guess you'd also, I think it'd be hard because you'd be in there talking to the townspeople, hearing them tell you how fucked it was. Yeah. So you're possibly just gonna, you know, get even more.

And is that group mentality when nobody's gonna be like, you know what? He wasn't that bad. I feel for the guy, you're not gonna get that. Everybody would be like, yep, it was the right thing. I don't know. Yeah, that's amazing. I mean, trainer definitely did say that he wasn't the monster that they made him out to be. Yeah, and maybe he wasn't. I don't know. And that was pretty amazing that people come together like that though. So, to think of it that way, for all of those people to keep their mouth shut this whole time, I think maybe he was the bad person that. You know,

because if he was maybe not that bad, then there'd be a portion of the community who would go, that didn't seem right. Yeah, I post, I don't think there's any doubt that he impregnated a teenager. Yeah. And he still shot people. He shot people, it sounds like for very little reason. Yeah, so he was a good person. No, he's definitely, yeah, I think he definitely was a real bad guy. Yeah, he reminds me of this um, uh, Hercule Poirot, I get the Christie story. Fuckin' hell. Death on the Nile. I wouldn't say which one it is because I want a

real one it for people that they've watched the show I read the book, but um they're watching a long gone. All right, I mean Dave was talking about some very specific things and they're happening in this episode but maybe that was also in another episode. Because he didn't name it. This turns out that this guy gets stabbed, a lot of stab wounds, and then it turns out that everyone did it, and they all did it together,

and they all, because he was a really bad guy, he'd done something to a kid, like child kidnapping or something, and they all lined up and one after another to stab them. Oh, what? So they, and then when he was interviewing everyone, like everyone's so tight-lipped, because they all did it

And like like that um faring squad thing. Yeah, no one knows who the actual The final one. Yeah, because he's probably dead by the last few ones. So you don't know yeah Fuck so she is she was amazing though. Is that a good story such a good one. Yeah So I love it. Okay But yeah, it just reminds me of that. You know, when you're practically, it's not even, it doesn't really matter who shot it. They're all kind of in on it. Yeah. Yeah. A great story. I, um, yeah, that's amazing. I really, really thought that was great. Uh, yes. So thank you so much Josh for that

sweet suggestion. Um, I really appreciate it. Let us know who side you're on. That would be cool, wouldn't it? If people want to tweed in. Do you think that's kind of cool? I want it because I'm 100% on the town side. Jess seems like she's pretty much Matt's a bit in the grave. No, I think I'm definitely, I definitely feel like if there's a guy, I feel like I probably

would have been in that headspace as well But I just also you're like you kind of first our society to to work We need to trust The law on some level right or do we? We talk a revolution We talk a revolution all right. I mean okay, great doesn't take the Just drop that R word. He loves it.

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If we had to murder someone, drugging our patron, people would keep their lips shut. I don't know. No, they're trustworthy. Trustworthy. Very trustworthy that- No, no, no, no, no, trustworthy, trustworthy. Very trustworthy. So trustworthy that we're gonna go up to Sydney to visit them soon. That's right, the- That's how much we trust them.

That we know Sydney exists. See, David and I can do the segues. Oh yeah. Well, I know we are going to talk about that. We are trying to lock in a Sydney live show. I reckon we will have locked it in by the time it's there. Which makes me bring it up pretty stupid. Dates will be on the internet.

If you look up our Facebook, where can you find us on Facebook, Dave? Facebook, we are at find us on Facebook Dave? Facebook, we are at dogoonpod, Facebook.com, such dogoonpod, we're also on Twitter and Instagram at dogoonpod, but all the links to this and our Patreon are below in the description of the episode. And email is dogoonpod at gmail.com, yeah. I might, and if we have figured figured out dates I might even just drop them in after this. Mr. Malar. I'll put them in now. Hi, this is Matt later on. Nah, it's still

me. Good on you. But put it in now. But please. Hey, has it. Oh, blood have it. No, but what was Dave here in the future? I just want to say please Duke in Sydney on if you're in New South Wales around the city area Please come on in to see us do a live show. Wouldn't that be awesome? That'd be great Super cool If that goes well then we can do the rest of Australia and if that goes well then we can do the rest of the world We're gonna do them. We're visiting. I'm gonna do one by one. Form a line. Dave, no. I'm consensual. Oh Dave, stop talking. How did the word consensual make that worst? I just don't know. I mean they're forming a line surely consent. Yeah good call they don't have to but still you get okay well they're not day but everyone else

What are you doing? Why are you lining up for this? You're dirty sickos? They're not sick. They're just giving into nature Look, I don't know how we got here But we are and we have to leave now so thank you so much for listening to this episode We do appreciate all your correspondence and topic ideas because for example we would never have heard a doubt we would have ever come across that story, if it hadn't been suggested. So if you know something that's from your local area, if you're from a different country to us and you know a story, we have a lot of listeners

like in Sweden and stuff. These are any cool local stories we could do about your area. Let us know. We do tend to hit up UK and American stories, mate. You're not really like overseas ones, like stuff in Asia. I'm from overseas ones. I like these. You're an outside of America in the UK. You know what, but to them, we are overseas. Uh-huh, that's how it works.

That's a good way to go. That's a bit like that. We are exotic to them. Why? I think this accent is adorable. No, they don't. That's why they're forming a line. Oh.

All right guys, thanks so much for listening. I will No, they don't. That's why they're forming a line. Oh. Alright guys, thanks so much for listening. I will say until next week. But before we go, Jess. Damn it, I was hoping you'd forget. D&G, what do you got? The...the... See, the G I wanted to go for goats.

And then I couldn't think of a D that went with that. And then just then, when Dave was saying that I was growing, I was like, the groan, something in groans. The...the... The... The... just then when Dave was saying that I was growing, I was like the groan, something in groans. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, fuck, I hate this game so much. Dave, you've got another one, Dave. Uh, Dracula and Goblin? Fuck you. Dracula and Goblin.

It's pretty cool. It's not bad. It's pretty good. Alright, I'm gonna leave a little bit of space here for the music and then after the music just will come back to you. A little sacred bit at the end. Anyway, thanks so much for listening, everybody. Goodbye, and the latest!

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