Do Go On - 90 - The Valentich Disappearance

Episode Date: July 12, 2017

In 1978 young pilot Frederick Valentich set off for King Island, but he never arrived at his destination. What caused his disappearance? Was it Suicide? Did he fake it? Were aliens involved?? Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Moments ago we were high-profile and advertised like in madmen. Now it's just your friends. Just like before. But now we're your high-profile friends. Just like madmen. Yeah. Is that right? I'm wearing a suit.

Me too. I'm wearing an anti-microbial suit. I've got a cigar. And a glass of brand. I'm smoking an anti-microbial cigar. I've really taken this thing on board, guys. She's great. You got it.

I'll never smell again. Never gonna smell again. Ah, smelly feet ain't got no rhythm. All right? You're not wrong. You're not wrong. How are your boys? Never gonna effect again. Jess, you sick. What are you doing? I don't know. And here's the thing too, is that, like, for you guys,

because pulling back the curtain, we haven't seen each other for a couple of weeks, because Matt, our beautiful Matt Stewart, has been away touring Queensland. And new South Wales. Let me finish. Oh, I didn't know. I went, that's why I wasn't here.

No, I didn't know New South Wales, I meant. Sorry, I thought it was just... I drove past so many Steve Irwin references. Oh, too many. And he sent me pictures. I was like, I don't want to see that. Anyway, so Matt's been away for a couple of weeks too, and being an absolute rock star. So we haven't seen each other.

So to you guys, I'm sick again. To the listener, I've just remained sick. Yeah, wow. I want to point out that I did get better at one point. For like six days, six working days. That was a hot streak. Yeah that's pretty good. Well done. Thank you. See you at my sick again. You're not good? All right. Well how was Queensland and New South Wales? It was a lot of fun. So much fun. It was a really good amount of fun.

Did you meet any listeners out there on the road? I don't think I did. No I'm pretty sure I didn't. Probably got some new listeners though, I. Yeah look it was all I'd talked about. Yeah. Which is, what, for you, 15, 20 minutes said every night? Yeah, it's talking about 20 minutes. I sort of opened with five to six minutes of a bit of a plug. And I said, all right, I'm going to do a couple of jokes now

quickly. And I did very quickly for the next 23 seconds. And then I finished with a 14 minute wrap-up of what the podcast can do for you if you're welcome into your life. Great. Wow, standing over. Did you talk about us as well as individuals?

Oh, yeah, no. People are going to be tuning in for the first time. I mean, oh, this is interesting. There are other people on there. He said it was just him being magnificent for an hour plus away. And magnificent magnificent Matt. Yeah, I didn't even let him know that we do a different topic each week or Talk about I said look this is made chatting and I got that got some ears picked up So far they're loving it

But we're about to destroy their view of the podcast by asking you to do a report on something I would listen to Matt talk for an hour. Yeah, look, I'm going to maybe do an off-shoot pod where it's just me chatting off the top of my head. To yourself? Chatting to myself. A little chat show. Not a little chat show, just solo.

Are they? Interesting. I want to revamp the whole idea of chat. Great. People are going to start chatting, but not with others. I've just recapped what I'd already said. I imagine that you're just giving us a demo of what the show will actually set in like a lot of circles.

Lots of recapping. So the recapping. Anyway, as I was saying. Matt, you're 30 seconds in. Well, as I was saying at the top. I've got a real good topic this week. Have you had a couple of weeks, obviously, on tour? Have you been riding on tour? I've been reading and also riding on tour, yes. So, answer the question is yes. Well, to be honest, I hadn't, but at first I was truthful, then I'm like, nah, lie. Sorry, just a quick little recap.

And then again, I was like, can't lie. Dance is no. No, I did reading though, I did do reading. Well, we are excited for your report. It's this topic gave me chills, I'll tell you about that soon. Horror. Nah, it was funny because there was just

some of the early key bits of information, we're just like, oh, that's coincidental to my life. I'll talk to about them. So it's certainly 1800s. I've been alive since then. So anyway, the question this week, we always start with a question, which is how we get into the topic. This week's question is, what is Australia's greatest aviation mystery? Oh!

Australian topic, which we don't do heaps of. Doug Barry Cooper. Doug Barry. Oh, he dug. Oh, he baster. That's a really Aussie name. Doug Barry Cooper. Doug Barry.

That's great. I've heard it. He's drinking the coupons. I love him. Um, aviation. I wonder if you've heard of it. So I'm guessing you've heard of it. So I'm guessing you guys probably won't know this.

Does this name mean anything to you? The Valentitch Disappearance. No, but I love it. Is this a mystery episode? It is a mystery episode. Which people love and hate. Are you going to start the episode by talking in dot points like I do winter 1936 a man approaches the beach he dies

He's got the next day he's found no What happened to his pants find out next week on do go on I started writing out a bit like that And then yeah, I went back into my I wanted to do it like that. Yeah, but nobody can do it like that I'm putting on a t-shirt The the thing is with the mystery episodes is I think it's They're frustrating when you get to the end and find out it's a mystery I think it's slightly like as any like oh cool. So I'm about to find out what happened I'm intrigued and then it's like and they never say I look

But knowing at the start that it's a bit mysterious that just makes me excited for a story This was actually a topic suggested in the straightener the golden hat by Patreon supporter Zach Steinbacher. So you get that tipting heaps of cash into our account for that he gets the access to the golden hat which is an exclusive club only 10 can be in there at any one time. And they're in there all the time. They're in there all the time. They're in there all the time. They take advantage of it.

They just live in there, live in the hat. Thanks, Zach. It's a real big hat. Yeah, so like I was saying, as I started researching and I was like, it was late at night, I was by myself and I was starting to go, oh, weird. Yeah. But I think it's like, you know,

there are always gonna be coincidences that you can find. So you guys tell me if these are or not. Let me read a couple paragraphs. I'll first one, I'll say it in a second, I'll tell you what the coincidences are, and you can tell me. Okay. If they, if you think, I'm full of shit or what? On the evening of the 21st of October 1978, Frederick Valentitch set off on a training flight

departing from Marabana Airport heading for King Island in Tasmania. October 1978, that's our day of a dinner. A destination he would never arrive. Ooooooooh! Okay, that's... that's thing. So now these are the coincidences. He set off on the 21st of October, my birthday is the 21st of October. From Marabbon Airport, I grew up in Marabbon and he was flying to Tasmania

where I will be flying the day this episode comes out. Okay, I'm clutching it straws in the last part. Hey, and will you be the day it comes out I'm flying from and will you be flying from an airport? Yes! That's it, that tipped it over the air. So you're going to Tasmania not King Island which is an Ireland off Tasmania. It's technically a Tasmania. It's part of the Tasmania. I'm aware that where it is, but I'm just saying.

I'm so that's a coincidence for sure. So you wanted me to, yeah, I mean it would have been a real coincidence if I was, if it was the 21st October, 1978, and I was Frederick. Yeah, that's how I'm. October 1978 and I was Frederick. So anyway, here we go. The 20-year-old valentitch flies out of Marabana Airport. You've been 20 in your life. That's true. Allegedly.

Sorry, sorry. No, to be honest, I skipped that one. Good. I think I'm 19 to 21. Did not want to cast the spursions. Back in the 1640s, I didn't celebrate 20th birthday. It was a leap birthday yeah that's true so many do go on so we left it 619 pm flying a rented

light aircraft a Cessna 182 L which is a four-seat light aircraft and how many people are on board he's flying so slow low. Oh, flying so low. It's way too big. He doesn't need those three extra seats. He's need a glider. It's basically the young pilot, right? And basically, the idea is that this flight was just to help get his flying hours up. At this stage, he'd notched up approximately 150 hours

in total in about a year of flying. Oh, wow. The sun sets at 6.43 pm, but Valentich's restricted license mean he can fly at night when the visibility is above a certain level and the conditions are very clear on this evening. Soon after 7 pm, Valentich notices that what he, so Valentich notices what he believes to be another aircraft flying above him. To check if this is the case, he radios the Melbourne Air Flight Service and speaks with air traffic controller Steve Roby. The conversation went a little something like this. I'm going to read

out a bit of a transcript here. So when exactly like this, I went very much like this. Can you do two different voices so we can differentiate between the characters? Yeah, great. Or do a bit of like a sort of thing too. So look, I mean, take some credit. Roger is set at one point. So I'll just read the script and I'll try and do

different voices. Thank you. What kind of any requests of voices? I reckon it makes Steve kind of, oh yeah, there. And the other one always. Steve Robe is the oh yeah. So he's the air traffic I reckon makes Steve可能. Oh yeah, yeah. And the other one always. Steve Rob is the oh yeah. So he's, so the air traffic control is always. He's deeper.

Oh yeah. Okay, great. And the other one's a bit higher, is a younger man. Straight to Liverpool. Straight. Never peered. Yeah, thank you.

Really, that's confusing. We all want to, he's a Melbourne man. He's a big Beatles fan. We're using Australia anyway. Big Beatles fan, okay, great. I mean, the Beatles only broke up for eight years earlier. Exactly, he's still real, and it's still alive. When he was 12.

So I'll start with Valentich, and Valentich is the God. All right. Is there any known? That's not, that's a good look. Just do him normal, do him normal. What? And then Steve goes goes Steve's lower Is there any known traffic below 5,000 feet?

Sorry, I can't hear you you're gonna have to speak in a Liverpool accent because it's very very hard From the Beatles is that you valentine He starts every transverse with no traffic below 5,000 feet. Now that's 5,000 feet Matt just go for it. Is there any known traffic below 5,000 feet? No known traffic I am seems to be a large aircraft below 5,000 What type of aircraft is it? I cannot confirm. It is for bright. It seems to me like landing lights. The aircraft has just passed over me at least a thousand feet above.

Roger and it is a large aircraft confirm? Unknown due to the speed it's traveling. Is there any air force aircraft in the vicinity? No, no, no aircraft in the vicinity. It's approaching right now from due east towards me. It seems to me that he's playing some sort of a game. He's flying over me two, three times at a time at speeds I could not identify. Roger, what is your actual level? My actual, my level is 4.5400. And confirm you cannot identify the aircraft. Affirmative. Roger, stand by. It's not an aircraft. It is... Can you describe the aircraft? As it's flying past, it's a long shape.

I cannot identify more than that. It's at such speed. It is before me right now, Melbourne. And how large would the object be? It seems like it's stationary. What I'm doing right now is orbiting, and the thing is just orbiting on top of me also. It's got a green light and it's sort of metallic, like it's all shiny on the outside. It's just vanished.

Would you know what kind of aircraft I've got? Is it military aircraft? Confirm the aircraft just vanished. Say again. Is the aircraft still with you? It's now approaching from the south west. The engine is is rough idling. I've got it set at 23, 24 and the thing is coughing. Roger, what are your intentions? My intentions are to go to King Island, Melbourne.

That strange aircraft is hovering on top of me again. It is hovering, and it's not an aircraft. And there's silence for 17 seconds. And then there's an audible, unidentified staccato noise, which some have said sounded like scraping metal. That's the end of transcript. And with that, despite an intensive search of the ASC in land,

Valentich was never heard from again and his body never recovered. Oh my god Pretty sick right real cool. So yeah I'm reading that. Cheels. And I have seven chills. I've got chills I can't it could be a fever. I'm not sure. Yeah it's always a fever. Oh my sure. Yeah, it's always people. Oh my god. Wow So that's the mystery Wow creepy So I guess I'll now talk about some of the theories and whatnot. I've got a theory. Yeah early or I great. What do you reckon?

I don't know. Do I say it now? Do you want me to hold out? I want to hear, maybe I need to hear more evidence. Or maybe I say it now and you convince me to do it. Yeah. No, I just want to hear what you think. Well, I reckon he, like he's faking it. And then just disappeared. I was going to say theory, fakes his own death. Fakes his own death or like Suicide ah that's But they they would have found the plane maybe that are they are a couple of the theories that have been put put out there

Many theories have been put forward to try and explain the disappearance alien abduction. Yeah suicide stage disappearance drug and juiced hallucination But none have been able to be definitively proven. Because they never found him or the plane. Yeah, which makes it pretty hard. Pretty hard to prove anything to be honest. Historian Redge Watson, who I really like. Oh, great name. I just knew that Jess would like this guy. He noted that he put his flight plan into Marabin, but he never told King Island Flight Service that he was coming therefore they never had the lights on at the airport. This has given rise to

two assumptions one that he planned his own mysterious departure or two that it was a suicide which are the two that came to your mind. What if he's just forgetful? Well I mean you've done 150 hours worse. The main thing is not to be honest 150 hours. No yeah thing. It's not very much to be honest, 150 hours. No, yeah, that's three hours a week for a year. It's not very much. It's been quite an experience. But yeah, you'd think that like that,

I figure when you're learning to fly, that's probably one of the first things that you, you double check. Yeah, that you're the place you're flying to is way before you. Yeah, because that's, from my understanding, fairly important. The first thing you do is make sure everyone's stored their tray tables. Thank you very much. And keep their blind

things blind up for God's sake. That one was like, I've been working up to put that up. The blind up. Oh man, excuse me, sir, sir, sir, you'll kill us all. The part can't operate in shade. He hates the shade. You'll kill us all. The part can't operate in shade. He hates the shade. You'll kill us all. He's already wearing sunglasses and he's not taking them off. Is that what you want?

Is that what you want to kill us all? Madam, would you mind showing this man your infant? Do you want to kill us all? Hey everyone, Road 7, Jerry wants to kill us all. That motivated him? Good? My job here is done. Anybody for a colipone

Those are flight racer like I was colipone I was gonna say best I've killed her a colipone a fly I think I know someone who's on that flight and they got working up for the clip on they were not happy about it fair enough I Mean I would have been happy to be working Yeah, yeah, I was like you like she was on the same flight as me. Yeah, yeah, I was like like she was on the same flight as me. Yeah, yeah It's like no, I don't want a calipo and I do want that sleep back that you just stole from me. Yeah Well, I was a hard choice sleep or a calipo. It wasn't like is it the winter too? So it was I wasn't like oh refreshing trade also. It's always cold on planes. Yeah, it's a weird one I've never come across a media calipo

Yeah, you are terrible people of your I took it I'm not hating on I'm a I a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, A summary trait, yeah. For many years after the disappearance, the government was very reluctant to release any information about the case to the public. That's weird. That's weird. Sorry.

Did that prick you up? That definitely prick you up. I got your prick right up. That's weird. Even Valentich's family was only given restricted access. For instance, Valentich's father was only allowed to hear the recording of his son's final conversation with Steve Roby after agreeing that no one else would hear the tape. That's weird.

That's weird. It does seem a bit weird, right? There's been a bit protective of it. I'd put it straight on Facebook. You had an alike to get on that. You had an alike to get on that. You had an alike to get on that. You had an alike to get on that.

You had an alike to get on that. You had an alike to get on that. You had an alike to get on that. You had an alike to get on that. You had an alike to get on that. You had an alike. Oh my god. You do that. Oh hang on I know I was kidding you're sick fuck I was sort of making a commentary about you know millennials Anyway, you probably wouldn't get that because you're a million. Yeah, I'm a million all Someone who lives for a million years You look great though.

Thank you. It's all the vampire sucking I do. What's that? A suck vampire has... Where do you suck him? According to researcher Keith Basterfield, after following the case since the disappearance in 78 and attempting to access the case file,

he was eventually told by the government in 2004 that the file had been lost or destroyed. Oh, we, uh, we, uh, it's, uh, how do I say this? Johnson took it home, dog ate it. Did a shit on it? The dog shout on the report. Actually, no, here it is here. Shit, still on it. You on it? The dog shout on the report. Actually, no, here it is here. Shit still on it. You want it?

You want it? It shows if you want it. But dog shit lover. You have to promise you won't show anyone this dog shit. By a quirk of fate though, he found the 315, I said that weird. The 315 page document years later when searching through an online national archives index on an unrelated topic. The file has since been digitized and uploaded, so people can read it on the archives website.

Wow. Speaking of the government's like, fuck. Yeah, because they just got someone like a temp into do some data entry and they put up that that lost slash. I accidentally took it out of the shred it. Yeah, put it in the upload it file. Basterfield noted upon uncovering the file that it revealed parts of an aircraft wreckage with partial serial numbers within the range of volunteers were found in Basterate, which is the water body water that is between Melbourne and Tasmania

five years after the disappearance. So not in complete numbers because you know, it was a wreckage, but potentially were, it could have been. Was there any alien g's on it? And it was sopping wet with jizz. Grangies? Little grangies. Little grangies. Little grangies.

That sounds like a belly part in song. I'd love to hear an impression. Nah, I'm sick. No, it started like it could have been. Nah, I'm sick. Nah. it started like it could have been. Now I'm sick. Now, little grain cheese working nine to five. Way to take in the cheese and the way to make a

cheese and little green cheese. That's yeah, that's better. To for the little green gist. The significance of this, the finding of the the the the partial wreckage, according to Basterfield, is that it basically rules out the popular theory that the disappearance was staged, right? He's saying, you know, if that was the wreckage, then this kind of rules out the fact that he's he's faked it.

Oh, that he's actually secretly landed somewhere. Flown off somewhere else. Unless a few years later he's come back entrashed. So good. I love that. They're a plan. Yeah, because there's no way of knowing exactly what happened. Like all these things are possibly possible.

Even someone wild like that, which I love. He's living in the sky somewhere. And now he's making wreckages out of clouds and He brings him back down via mystic dust Yeah, I'm with you so far. Hmm, and then you just you know, etc So ultimately he just stole a plane. That's what we're really talking about. Yeah, he also tied that plane That would be annoying for the owner really know you never hear about the real victim Mr. Cessna. So that's if you say he got the report he's secretary came in on excuse me Mr. Cessna I'm sorry to be the bear of bad news and I'm one of your

planes has been stolen slash missing. Ah not again but a king island I bet. That is correct so yeah. Those fucking cows. So you're thinking that he did, you're still thinking maybe he did steal it and he's just stashed it all fake. I don't think he's playing was like free playing. I think it was like stage's death and he's living as a little hermit somewhere on an island. Near King Island. Like in a big shell and he comes out like this.

He's not a hermit crab there's a difference less of these less pincers yes and more pizzas he's got a beautiful wood fire oven wow and he's shak I mean it's like a it looks quite rough from the outside just like a you probably you'd probably almost miss it just driving along the road um because it's of just wouldn't, but you go inside, hmm, what he's done with it, modern bathroom and kitchen, most beautiful splashback, the bench tops. So, 58, so what he'd be, he'd be almost, he'd be 58 now, no, 58, 59.

Yeah, so he's in his retirement, or coming up to. He's retired from being a her main hoaxing. And he's just been doing up his home so that he can sort of be comfortable there. And it's just beautiful. But yeah, sorry, the point that I was making so he has a wonderful wood fire oven. It took some time, but he's really perfected the traditional margarita.

Which is a very simple. Simple, but that's really perfected the traditional margarita. Which is a very simple. Simple, but that's how the Italians like it, you know? There is doubt over who margarita was. Uh-huh. Dave, you know much about this? No, please tell me more. No, that's all I remember to really have you take it from there. Well, we can let you know that.

I think one of them was maybe a queen or something, or some sort of a, some noteworthy person and someone else thinks that something quite, quite different. maybe a queen or something, or some sort of a some noteworthy person and someone else thinks that something quite quite different. I feel like I shouldn't know that because Margarita Pizza is probably my favorite food in the world. I think you should know the history of your favorite food. Yeah, I think it's interesting. If you're that passionate about which I am. That's why I know all about...

Piscady. Yeah, comes from Piscady in Pachanum. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I was invented about 30 odd years ago. Yeah, just eat a Pachanum. Yeah Dave your favorite food and the history of it. Oh It's really hard to say probably a pie. Oh, yeah, good girl. Yep history of the pie Given that a simple dish was given a simple three-letter name

a simple three-letter name. In 1545. So, in 1742 I believe. 43, very close. How is my favourite dish, sir? Of course not. So the significance of the wreckage, according to Bassfield, was about saying how it debunked that popular theory about the staging of the disappearance. He said to the Adelaide advertiser, there was a lot of public speculation at the time of a hoax disappearance, but there is nothing in the 315 pages that even suggests that. Yeah, but these are government documents and they've tried to cover it up, Baselrate. So you think they're covering up him stealing the plane? Why would the government cover that up? No, but I don't understand why they might cover up a...

No, maybe military... Maybe it was still military. This is the military thing calls him to crash and that's why the record is... Right. Maybe it was a military plane and the military boys were a little bit drunk. So they were just sort of fucking with him. They were just sort of like like when teenagers hoon a little bit like drag race maybe the Their military plane was like yeah, you want to know? I mean he spiraled in crash and they went run You know, yeah, they were like I tried to run and that green green light he saw was actually the signal to go in the race

Yeah, yeah, and he fucked it. He fucked it. He didn't go. And then, lost these pink slits. All butting. We'll play for pinks. The other popular theory that Watson and Perkins both mentioned was that the young part committed suicide. So I'm like, did you mention a perk into this story that missed it? It's the story about me. Just written yourself into the report.

Doesn't take a lot to become an expert in my reports Someone said sometime suicide So but apparently suicide that that theory is widely been put to bed Based on transcripts of many interviews with family and friends of Val Valentech and also some people I was reading out Have since talked to family and friends and said They basically get go there. There's no signs. He was suicidal Which is interesting that they could put that to bed based on interviews because often don't you hear of people saying You just never you'd taken by surprise?

Yes, often so surprised But I guess you're with like famous people like Quinn Chris Cornell died last month Well a month or four. That's right But maybe maybe if it was a psychologist talking to people, maybe they could uncover signs that layman couldn't or something. Yeah, but it's also the late 70s too, not to say that they, like obviously, I feel like it's probably improved our understanding of mental health is probably improved now. Yeah.

We're more aware of it now, so maybe we'd be looking for more signs or more things would stick out. I reckon often these things that are put to bear to buy an expert who's trying to push forward their theory as well, so they're going, I've ruled that out. That's obviously being ruled out. It's like, I don't know if it fully, how can it fully? I'm ruling aliens in. I found a partial, I found a partial serial number that could have been it, so that rules out that E. Yeah. Well, they want to be the one that's the expert that's talking about it. Yeah, I know why yeah So I like mate you're a gardener and you've been on Google for four hours. You are not the expert

I should probably note that while Basterfield is dedicated is life to researching your foes gardener slash four hours searching your foes. Gardner slash four hours. He in this advertiser article, they call Basta Field an expert researcher of public documents, and it also says that he does not believe in UFOs. Because I was reading a gun. Course, you think that, mate. You're just trying to tell us that this is an UFO, but apparently he doesn't believe in UFOs. He's just, so he spent his life investigating something he doesn't believe.

Yeah, trying to sort of debunk them. I think he's like he's a skeptic and I think is as I understand best of field He's a skeptic which I read a few skeptics in here Right, so he's the anti-fuck smolder. Yeah, also the anti what was that guy you had the ufologist? Oh, the ufologist He was great. He was a great character. I can see his face. Yeah. Still funny.

But with that in mind, Basterfield noted that it was the case as investigators, rather than Vowentitch, who labelled it an unidentified flying object. In the transcript, you would have noticed a Vowentitch never mentions aliens. He's asking what aircrafts are around that sort of thing Yeah, but it was in the investigation of you know government investigators Well the ones who were talking about it being a UFO. What was spooky that who say it's not an aircraft? Yeah, that was maybe yeah, what do you mean? What is it then? Yeah? Oh, man. I loved it It's well, this is why it's it's grabbed people's attention, I guess.

Yeah. Um, it's because it's, yeah, I think that transcript is probably the key to it. Yeah. And the fact that he'd disappeared, mid, um, chat. Yeah, mid conversation. Um, so it's kind of interesting that Valiantage never mentions aliens in that, aliens in that conversation because apparently he was super fascinated by them. So, according to a report written by James Maggaya and Joel Nichol, for the skeptical enquirer in 2013, McGuire and Nickle wrote that Fred Valtich was enthralled with UFOs watching films and accumulating articles going on to say that according to his father Valtich had

himself observed UFO moving away very fast earlier in the year. He was the UFO guy himself. Okay. Which explains some stuff I think. As a big believer, and McGuire and and Nickel think this is important as it may suggest that rather than happening upon a UFO, maybe Vantage went looking for one, which obviously is quite a different thing. If this is the case, they suggest that his so-called encounter was not surprising. And they quote noted skeptic and Mensa member, Robert Schaefer,

who said that as Vantage was a true believer, he was probably inclined to assume anything was a UFO if he could not immediately identify. Yeah, that's... yeah. Which I find interesting because if that's the case, he's not going, holy shit, is this a UFO? He's going, I don't know what it is. Like, he was sounding very level-headed about it. Yeah, true. So that kind of as all that can't seem to not quite be consistent to me.

Yeah you're right. He would have been like oh I've got one instead of being like I'm that's weird. Yeah come on send people over here. I've got a thing. We've got a thing. Do you guys know of any planes because there's something up here? Sure nothing. Yeah. Unless what you were saying before maybe he's like going up there to try and manufacture one but why would he do that one, but why would he do that? And you know, why would he do that and then crash? Yeah, well, yeah, what it's very bloody intriguing, I tell you, on top of this, they paint Valentich as a fairly ordinary pilot, which I suppose

is to be expected as he was a relatively inexperienced flyer. But in his short time as a pilot, having obtained a private pilot license in September 1977, so just over a year earlier, and he was studying part-time for a commercial pilot's license. But again, quoting Schafer's research, Magaya, getting that name wrong for sure, and Nichol suggests he had failed all five of his exam subjects, not once but but twice and just the months before again failed three subjects So I mean I don't I don't know what kind of rules there were back then It doesn't feel like you'd almost how do you still have a license to fly by Commercial part. Yeah, so he get to another level from a little

sessner. Joy. So he's still got his license to fly the little ones. Yeah, but they're like, no, you can't handle. So it's kind of like you and I having car licenses and then I'm trying to get in a semi-trailer. Yeah, and they go probably not and we get nah, nah, nah. Look at me reverse. He's like, oh, jacked off again. Oh, this is is fire. I've ruined this truck. Aliens. Where's that truck bin again? I'll count Dynax, maybe I'm going to drive it into it, but can someone else please? On top of this, he once received a warning for straying into restricted air space and was twice sighted for deliberately flying blindly into a cloud

which was under threat of prosecution. Apparently. What will say that again? He flew into a cloud. Twice he was excited for deliberately flying blindly into a cloud. Wait, hang on, how do you- I mean, like- Oh, mate, you're gonna have to pay for that cloud.

They just up there. They just up there. They just up there. That's like he's like a beard into a muscle. Like, push. You've got, it's like he's gone out of his way to go through it. That's but it's just a cloud. Yeah I don't know I don't know how do you avoid them? I guess it's a dodge because that would mean that we could not fly very often into Melbourne

I'm afraid China owns that cloud and they're really pissed off. I'm pretty sure I'm quiet I'm quieting a guy who's in Mensa, all right? No, I'm not off. I'm pretty sure- You're so excited, it's clout. I'm quieting a guy who's in Mensa, alright? No, I'm not dead, I'm just confused. Well, that's just exist. My phone is backed up to the cloud and he drove through my photos. I'd be fucking pissed. He's just rewinding me, album. What are all your photos of, Dave?

Oh, don't you don't need to know that. You weird eyes. Do you have funny there? Oh, are they was looking at me. He's like, he's having flashbacks. He's stealing photos. Get out of the cloud! Get out of me cloud! Oh, put him down!

Put him down. Yeah, take him out. You got to photo him a little boy. Oh, he's taking him. Back to his lair on King Island. Little bastard. I'm so confused. Oh, he's taking him back to his layer on King Island a little bastard That's a mystery I'll tell you so bloody mystery this week Drew the conclusion anyway from all that that he may have been an accident waiting to happen. Oh!

He loves Lonnie and the Clare. He loves it. I was letting him... Like, obviously, if you don't know Australian geography, to get from Melbourne to King Ireland, you have to fly over quite a lot of water and you're no good at flying. So it's not that far? No, yeah, if we caught a, like, a Qantas flight or something, it would take us about half an hour, 40 minutes? Yeah, absolutely. It's less than an hour.. I'll be you guys listening straight away. I'll be in the air right now

That's nice flying through the clouds. Get out. Just stop. I'm not just stop it I'm gonna get up there. I'm gonna get there with a USB. Just don't look at my apps. Oh My daughter We're gonna check out Dave's data. Oh fuck now. It's like later we'll just like him. What's up apps if you got the you don't want us to say. Oh, oh, I'm um, you would not stay. Get out of it. Peloton is ready when you are and with up to $700 off your Peloton bike plus purchase,

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He saw it, it just explains it maybe he might have crashed, but what happened just before that? That you can't say, oh, he loved flying in a cloud, so he, I don't know, somehow saw her. I don't know. I don't know, somehow Sora, I don't know. The consensus seems to be that he wasn't making it up though, that he saw something. It's just people like Shaefer, Magaya and Nickel are suggesting that maybe he saw something very explainable and left to conclusions. So what did he see? Magaya and Nickel, Reckon, they have not it. Oh, they haven't, Reckon, they have no idea.

And he is the opinion. End of episode. Going as far to title this article I've been quoting, the VALENTISH DISAPERANCE, Colin, another UFO, Cold Case, solved. Oh, solved it. That's bold. That is bold. But how you got to be in this media. But it's a co-write between the two of them?

It's a co-write. Okay, good. Let's see. And I love how it starts out. He goes, one of us, Nickle, was asked to look into the case for a television show, and he queered the other, McGower, who came up with the missing piece of the puzzle, as perhaps only someone who was both a pilot and astronomer could do. What a combo.

What a combo. I'm a pilot who loves to look at the stars. It's just like, we're just asked to look at it at TV show and we bloody knotted it. Oh, it's a good idea. They asked us to co-write an episode of Baywatch and we accidentally solved an alien mystery. The article's full of stuff where it's like, so this probably means and that you can assure him that that. Yeah, right.

And then I wait to... It's so funny how confident it's a little clickbaited, but it's interesting because it's from a publication called The Skeptical Inquire, But it's like, real skeptics wouldn't be going, we reckon there's probably like, you couldn't say it isn't, so I reckon it is. We figured it out, there it is. We flipped the coin and there we are. So the article says,

as it happens, a computer search of the sky for that day, time and place of Valentich's flight reveals that the four points of bright light he would almost certainly have seen with the following. Almost certainly. Venus, which was at its very brightest, Mars, Mercury, and the bright star, Antares, or Antares, or it's probably Antares, Antares or it's probably Antares. Antares. These four lights would have represented a diamond shape given the well-known tendency of viewers to connect the dots and so could well have been perceived as an aircraft or UFO.

In fact the striking conjunction was shaped as a vertically elongated diamond, thus explaining Valentich's saying of the UFO that it is a very long shape. As to the UFOs, are the characteristics the Metallic or Shiny appearance could have been due to the power of suggests in a loan. Having connected the dots, Valentich would likely have gone on to fill in the area as solid even metallic. We must remember the Valentich's impressions of those of someone who was confused about what he was saying. That's hardly definite stuff. That's a whole lot of. So we reckon probably filled it in and like if you ever looked at this like even if you were a bit dizzy or whatever you look up at the star and you're like, oh yeah, that's the stars. That's a big chunk of night sky between the stars. Looks like a metallic spaceship to me.

Also, I love the power of suggestion on himself. Yeah, usually use that on other people. So, he employed Oprah's the secret, asked for an alien, and there it was. Case closed. Yeah, I just don't quite buy it. I alien, and there it was. Case closed. Yeah, I just don't quite buy it. I mean, it's a theory. I accept it. That's a maybe a possible theory, but it's like to title your thing,

noted it. They didn't title it, noted it, but they may have quite a lot of, not it it. That's what they were doing at the pub that night. We'd bloody knotted it, boys. Slam down the publication on the pool table. But what about the boot run? It's coming at me like it's playing chicken.

So they sort of suggested that it rather than it moving in relation to him, it was more him moving in relation to it. Oh, so he was the aggressor in the situation. Well, I would think yeah, that's what they thought when it looked like it was moving fast, it was, you know, I don't, stars in the sky don't really seem to move like that, do they? No. No.

I don't know, like, he's in this flight. Like, how is he looking up sort of, like, look where you're going. He's looking. Is that why he crashed? Because he was distracted? That's kind of what, that is part of their theory that I do totally buy. I think that their assertion that Fred Valtich's UFO has now been identified should be probably reprised to Fred Valtich's UFO has now had another unprovable theory thrown into the mix. But I do think there is some

merit in the idea that he was distracted by something that he thought was a UFO and that that destruction, a distraction paired with his inexperience as a part led to a crash and his death disappearance. There is a theory that he was so disorientated that he may have been flying upside down and that the lights and aircraft he was seeing was actually the image of his own aircraft reflecting back. And if I could get my head around that as an idea that you could be upside down flying and not knowing it, then I reckon that makes a lot of sense to me. It makes the green light on his plane.

Yeah, but how could you be upside down? That's the only thing that I can't, apart that I'm like that feels like my favorite of the series I think visually if you're a full-in full pitch darkness and you can and there's ocean and sky either You probably couldn't tell but gravity still affects gravity, right? Yeah, you're not like zero G or anything Your sunglasses are falling off your head. You're pressing up into your harness a lot. Yeah, right Is that the case? Because you're hanging upside down. I have no I've never been in a small aircraft So I don't really know but in my head it feels like you know I've never been in the plane turns and you can feel that you're turning. Yeah, it's like that. Right

There's no way you could be dizzy and just like losing oxygen or some other weird thing that's led to him. He's not high up enough. Right. I don't think. I mean, I'm no expert, but I'm seeing Top Gun. And I nearly finished it. I hope Kruz gets out, okay? I love Kruz.

Well, he's a good guy. Is he Tom Cruise? No, he's the one that gets a... Who's the last man? He's the one that gets ejector seat. the one that gets a Jack Deceit. And it doesn't open and he breaks his extra away. He's a goose. He's the one with great balls of fire.

A good goose of fire. Great goose of fire. He flames up. I haven't finished it, all right? Rolls goose for dinner. Spoiler alert. Let's not spoil another thing. Dave a few weeks back. We won't we won't move on. I don't want it to well in the case I spoil it again. I'm not gonna say what but there was a pyro case that Dave absolutely ruined for at least one listener I think maybe multiple. No two two people email them but let's not dwell on it.

I don't want any more emails because it made me feel like a bad guy. at least one listener I think may be multiple. No, two two people emailing, but let's not dwell on it. I don't want any more emails because it made me feel like a bad guy. Because you're a bad guy. Jess and I both warned you at the time. I explicitly said, Dave, you're gonna get upwards of two emails about this. And you said, fuck off Jess.

Fuck you, I'll do what I want. Yeah, that's what he said. Can roll back the tape mate. Anyway, I reckon. There's another part, okay, so it turns out the whole key to it is the paladie says that you got picked by a rose But the type of thought that rose that she's talking about doesn't have thorns. Oh That's good. Oh fuck. Thank you. That's a great miss. We've got you Boom and I'm gone

So I'm gonna know all my extensive research over the last few weeks I reckon that that is probably my that's nearly my favorite theory upside down nearly but of course it isn't quite my favorite my favorite theory is that it was a mother flipping you refer that would be good yeah that'd be great back to historian red watson Red who we started out talking about I read in my head is like a portly fellow. Yep white beard Yeah, Santa Santa. I haven't seen him but I'm I'm picturing clean shaven is portly Yeah, but he's got white hair. Yeah, and maybe a wide room hat. Oh, okay, yeah, definitely glasses. Probably shorts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a like a shirt tucked in. Yeah, definitely. Oh, I love it. And maybe some sort of like, he's got things on his belt that could be, could come in handy. He's wearing a tool belt. No, no, no, no. No, no, no.

A compass, pocket knife. Red is a bed. Red is real great. Cool. I love red. I mean, I've made all that up, but I love, I love our red, even if it's not the real red. I love Ridge. I mean I've made all that up but I love our Ridge even if it's not the real Ridge. So, Ridge Watson was interviewed on ABC radio in Hobart and he said that he's been researching the disappearance. There's a quote for gosh. Three decades.

Gosh. For gosh. Three decades though, which I love him. I have to say in my opinion, he had an encounter with a UFO and I don't say that lightly. But I do say it every night to my wife. Night Honey, love you, sorry UFO. Yes Red, we all know. All I know in the broad terms of a UFO and unidentified flying object, that causes this to me. Which is, I think that's fair. That's definitely what it is. That doesn't even mean alien though. Not yet.

For months prior to the disappearance, lights in the sky, cigar-shaped objects were seen from King Island. And I've spoken to witnesses on the northwest coast of Tasmania who actually saw craft on the day 15 minutes before he went missing. What's also noted that there were numerous reports of UFO sightings in 1978. Thank you for UFOs. It's been called the biggest flap in Australia's history. Flap. But I never heard that term before. I didn't even look it up

because I'm like I reckon I'm like I think it means it just means a like a clump of sightings or activity. Flapp. A flap. Love it. Show us your flaps. Show us your flaps. Go on, Ali. Ali, show us your flap.

Come on, I bet you don't have any guts, do you? If you don't show us your flaps. Sightings were seen not only from Tasmania, they were seen as far away as South Australia, right through the coast of Western Australia, even up to the coast of New South Wales. That's far away from Tasmania. That's a long way away. And I read that a lot of these things came out after the disappearance made a lot of news. And then along with the news that there was an unidentified point. And then all of a sudden, along with the news that there was an unidentified one, and then all of a sudden people were like, yeah, I saw

something. Yeah, green light. Yeah, I saw a green light. They came, apparently a lot of it came afterwards. People who, you know, they're not necessarily lying, but are going to view it any point go, there was a mysterious disappearance, then all of a sudden people go, I knew I saw something something, I swear I saw it and then they call in when otherwise they might be like, nah, it was probably nothing. But it all of a sudden something confirms it in their mind or something like that. I'm saying it's very smart there. verdict with Valentich listed as missing. Open and shut. Presumed dead. But the official Department of Transport investigation reports stated that it seems likely that the aircraft did not crash in the sea between Cape Otway and King Island, which is where he was thought to be at the time. Which is, you know, whether that says that maybe he was like just the same before flying off somewhere else

Or if an alien took him or you know, it could mean all sorts of things or if he's a shit pilot doesn't know where he is Apparently another interesting thing and this was that the Department of transfer some government departments for the first time in in some of these researchers in all their time researching was the first time a government body in some of these researchers in all their time researching. It was the first time a government body actually asked to investigate further into the UFO, which is interesting as well.

So someone in Australia at the time was like, oh, I reckon it could be bloody something. According to a news corp story, so you know, it's a good quality journalism. Air Traffic Controller Steve Roby, a man who was last chat in term, has been quoted as saying, if he suffered disorientation and crashed into the water, you'd think they would have found it a lot of debris. Surely there would have been something found during the intense searches, oil or something. Roby said NASA analysts had assessed the audio transcript and found Valentich to be under genuine stress which led him to believe the UFO theory.

Oh wow. Which is interesting. I thought Roby, like the air traffic controller, this guy is the man of sense which only throws more weight into my belief that this was. I mean, UFO like you were saying broadly meaning unidentified flying object. Doesn't necessarily mean little green man or like that. Little green juice. And the simple fact was there was so much activity at the time in sightings. This is what Robo is saying. So that's interesting. Anyway, that's basically it. So there's, I haven't helped you at all, however.

But I'd love to hear your thoughts, but just to finish off, I guess. His family erected a memorial plaque on Cape Otway in 1998, which was unveiled by Steve Roby, who was... Oh, wow, the traffic controller. Yeah. Oh, wow. I suppose it would play on your mind forever.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's been the blast to speak to someone as well. Yeah And it's interesting if if that's true what now what he believes at NASA Looked into the tape because the tapes now being lost as well. You can't hear the tape anymore Oh, although they did think the reported but lost as well. So it may well turn up Apparently it was played on I read somewhere that it was played on I am radio in in Victoria at some point in Melbourne Sense years ago. So I am radio. Yeah, but it yeah that that transcript I think is is

Without that this would be a lot less fascinating But it's just the way it was coming and going and he fully believed it But it sounded like a lot of people thought, depending on their theories, the ones that thought he was distracted and updying. It sounded like some of the things about the plane coughing and stuff like that, meant that he was in a what's called a graveyard spiral, which is you're getting lower and you know you go and round and round basically diving into the cycling downwards. Right, we'll see your death. But possibly not realizing it. Yeah, possibly not realizing it.

Yeah, that's why it was like spluttering and stuff. I suppose that if you saw something and you were like, oh, look it's there, it's there, it's coming and going, coming and going, if you're in a spin. And especially if that, what you're saying is the reflection of the water, but like we were saying, we're not sure that how could he be upside down and not know it,

but I don't know about science to know if that is possible or not. No I feel like you'd know if you're upside down. What's your best theory Jess? Faked it. Faked it. You reckon he's off somewhere else? Yeah. Pizza oven? Yeah. I love it. I love it. Yeah. He's just living a quiet life. That's what he wanted. I'm into that as an idea. Yeah. I like that. That's the nicest one, I think. No, I'm the nicest one on this podcast. We've all agreed that. Dave, your theory? I think that he probably just freaked out.

No, no, no, I meant your theory about me being the nice num-kitt get-go. Yeah, I think you just, possibly just, I don't know what the lights that he was seeing were. Hmm. I think that he probably thought he was seeing something, but he's he just crashed. And they always say like surely we'd find something, but you just don't understand how big the ocean is. It's quite even a small, a relatively small area between Melbourne and Tasmania.

Yeah, there's so big. It's so big. And if it if it sinks right, it's a long way down. Four seat systems. It's about the size of this room sinks, right? That's a long way down. That's a long way down. That's a long way down. It's about the size of this room. Yeah. Yeah.

Which is huge. Yeah, I guess. Well, it's the size of a sessner. Sessner, which is pretty big. It's bigger than a normal room. But yeah, I think that he totally could have just actually crashed and died, sadly. And, um,

At least I'm bound to. Possibly you you never find him yeah definitely aliens i mean there's seven or seven planes out there what are you trying to find? Jess nothing bleep bleep

and mat your theory he said aliens yeah aliens aliens i think it was aliens made him fly upside down until he saw himself himself thought it was alien just weird play by the aliens but that's what they wanted because they work in mysterious ways. They wanted to think aliens but not see that right?

Yeah, because the real aliens, if you saw the real ones, it would have really put a gun on a rifle. And then what do they do with him? Oh, they, they, um, they probed his butt. Of course they did. Of course they did. Classic aliens. Yeah. Love it. Love, love a good probe. What of information up there?

Yeah, that's my guess. Yeah, that's the first place. Says with bowels. No. Yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess that's where that's the secrets of humanity you're up there up the butt. That's the most you. Yeah.

Maybe that's where alien brains are. And they just assume that ours are in our pool. Well to them it's not a pool. Of course not. It's a thin coal, not a thin coal. I should think whole lot of thin coal. I wonder if our golden hat patron himself Zach Steinbacher has some theories. Ah, I reckon he's got to, right? He's got to. Or if anyone else are there, because is it, do you reckon it's a famous thing

if you are a Tasmania? I think it's actually, it's pretty famous around the world. There's a lot of research, a lot of papers into this. It really captured the attention. I think a lot of that is, like I say, because of that transcript. The recording, yeah. Because he said.

He said what he said. That's it. Let's leave it to that. It's probably interesting. I've thought about this the other day. If one you die, you get to ask a few questions. Immediately, my question is, did DB Cooper survive? What happened to Diet love past?

And I'm just going to, well, I was going to ask what's the meaning of life. But that's just gone out. The window. I'm going to have to also have a bloody balance. Let's die together. Oh yeah, and we'll, do we only have three?

Do we only have three questions? No, we're not, three. Three, two are dying and not me. Is that what you say? You wanna come with? Yeah, I'm not, I'm not living here without you. So does that mean we get nine or is there some sort of a thing where you like, you multiply of each other?

So it's three by three by three. That'll be sick if you could like group them up. Well, it's three cubes. Three cubes would be real good. We could get some answers. We don't really know for ourselves. I couldn't even be able to tweet the answers back to our listeners. So is that worth it?

Is that worth knowing? Fine with me. I just want to know. Sure. Today you hold yourself above the listeners. I'd find out if Birkenwills should have split the party one more time. That's what I'd ask.

If they don't, they split the party once more, would they be fine? Oh man, there's so many questions. I just want to know, who was Jack the Ripper? Who was, so did you at Killer? Have you seen that new theory? Did someone send in that... Oh, they... We've had multiple people send in that.

Yeah, right. Because I love how... So there's a theory that Jack the Ripper and H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H theory that Jack the Ripper and H H H Holmes is the same person and the research is being done by H H H H Holmes is great nephew or something Oh creepy is that right? I should have really clicked harder on that link. Is that how you get more information out of it? I think the theory is that H Hday Chames, or Jack the Riffin possibly could have moved to America at the right time and stopped killing at the right time. This is interesting that it was a similar time at all. And if you haven't heard those episodes, we've done them all before.

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Melbourne, we are trying to catch up with you. We are trying. They're doing the best. Damn it. Yeah, I don't want to win that race. Thanks to everyone else. So, good to enjoy Smith. I'd also like to think, can I do two?

Oh my god, yes. I love my peeps so much. He's also part of my crew. What does Taylor Swift have? What's she here? Like a gang or something? Yeah, I know what you're talking about a posse a click It's a crew. It's there. I don't know what they fuck we're old. Yeah, well he's part of my posse my crew

No, she's born in 1989. I know that because her album is called 1989, but I would like to thank. Yeah, so we're younger than her Now she's born in So we're younger than her. Now she's born in 1994. He made her older. Ah, the maths guy. He's like, next, the opposite of what I said. Well, that's often true though. Let's be honest.

Right. And you did just say off air, before we started, that you have a fever. I don't have a fever. I'm a very cold. I would like to thank all the way from Toronto. It is Stuart L. Cock. Possibly Stuart Allcock. It's probably L. Cock. Look, I'd... Even if it's Allcock, he probably says L. Cock. Possibly Stuart Allcock.

It's probably L. Cock. Even if it's Allcock, he probably says alcohol. Allcock. Well, he probably says alcohol. I know I'm usually good at making jokes out of people's names, but I just get to Allcock. And I've just drawn a blank. So I'd just like to thank a sincere thank you. Just shot a blank.

I just shot a blank out of my all-cock. Thank you Stuart. There's a place in Western Australia. It's called it's spelled cockburn, but it's pronounced coburn. So maybe he's alco, which is not good either. Oh, alco. Stuart the alco. Hey, if I may have a go at thinking people, that'd be okay. That'd be real good. Oh awesome. Well, we did notice on our when we did that live video on Facebook, we had a lot of conners. A lot of conners on there.

Oh, I think it's the most popular name. It's, I think it seems to be. And one that was definitely active that day. And it's been a supporter of us for quite a long time. All the way from Santa Monica, I wanna thank Connor Jamison. Oh, Connor Jamison, He's also a frequent Twitter. Yeah, you're an absolute champ.

Connor, thank you so much for all of your support. And I'd also like to thank, again, if I may. And this one gives you boys an opportunity to do an accent that I cannot do. Which is from Somerset, are you okay? Somerset. There we go. Somerset.

I'm from Somerset. It's not bad, that's not bad. set. I'm from SummerSat. It's a bed, that's a bed. Hello, I'm Michael Kane. And I am not from SummerSat as far as I know. Well, I would like to think, will what? Wow, that's a cool name. Have we got to say will what in the summer's an accent? Will what?

About it. Will what? Will what? SummerSat. SummerSat. Wow, wow. I'm bowed it. Will why? Will why? Summer side. Summer side. Wow, wow. It went so much Southern man. It went so much Southern bell.

Anyway, thank you so much Will for supporting us and being from summer side. Summer side. You're a number one, you're a number one patron from summer side. There we go. Do we have time to thank anymore? I'm afraid not. Yeah, Maddie go on, you have a chance. I've had to thank anymore? I'm afraid not Yeah, Maddie go on you have a go. I've had to look out. I've looked this up and I don't know if this is right but

The pronunciation is because I'm I would have if I was having a crack it at myself. I would have said Ion Geogan but I've looked it up and it's actually Ian Gagan so which is quite different. How do you spell Gagan? G-E-O-G-H-A-N. Can he hear your teeth clicky when you spell that out? G-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A. Isn't that interesting? Wow. How do you get Gagan from that? He's a Gagan. G-A-Gan. Unless it's one of those joke things that

Messin with me where's Ian from he is from that Welsh Colorado Definitely well, so yes yes to the Welsh question just say yes when I ask you Welsh Don't have to be a smarter he could well be all know Colorado was the capital of Wales could well be Welsh Yeah, you don't know we can live in different places in Gagan or in Jigan I reckon in America they will more likely Pronouncing's fanatically right I think they call him they're probably called him Craig Ian just Yaggin oh Craig fucking hell. It's Ian Gagan Craig

Gagin Craig am I saying that? I'm so I'm seeing that in the gay again now maybe I reckon all right I'm gonna say in gay and thank you so much Thanks you got a sick name. I like it a lot and Colorado Rocky Mountain high. Is that what that is? I'm just picture I'm picture in moose and I'm picturing grizzly bears color is a picture in South Park or is that Denver? No, I'm thinking of Denver South Park I'm picturein South Park or is that Denver? No, I'm thinking of Denver. South Park? I'm thinking of South Park.

Is that it's South Park in Colorado? Yeah. Sick. I'd also like to thank Jack Jiles. Jack Jiles. Or Giles Jack. Jack Giles. Jack Jiles.

Jack Jiles. Great name. Jiles from the Nanny. One of the great, I reckon he's one of the top great name Jiles from the nanny one of the great Our reckon he's one of the top four or five characters from the nanny as Niles, which is in I was watching the nanny before I came here today, and it's chef Phil Miss find Mr

Chef It's been a few weeks. Well mentioning the nanny againanny again. Sasha became... We got a dada dude! We got a tweet once that said like, um, just because you mentioned it so much, was the Nanny a big deal in Australia or something? Like it wasn't overseas that it was big here. It's still, they still show reruns. It was on TV this evening when I ate my soup. Jack Jarls from Essex.

Essex. D-E-R-E-X. My asses, what's your Essex accent? I don't know. Essex, great name. Cricket, that's your SX accent? I don't know. SX right now. Cricket. That's a good cricket county, I believe, SX. The only way is SX is that?

That's a shake in the head. They're not that good at cricket. No, probably. How would I know? That's a show though. Matt knows a place based on sports reference. That's interesting. I might be wrong there.

Probably something cricket. Anyway, what do I know? The only way is Essex is a TV show. A British television soap opera based in Brentwood, England, it shows quote real people in modified situations saying unscripted lines but in a structured way. Oh, that sounds great. And it starts here in man called Jiles. Jack Jiles? Jiles Jack. Oh, interesting. But Jack Jiles actually from Ben Fleet, Essex. I'm really sorry to say that the ratings have really dropped.

20 series of the only way is Essex. Not too many. And it started in 2010. 20 series in that many years. Dave, we really should wrap this up. We're about to do our bonus Patreon episode after this. We totally are. It is you pushing towards Midnight and Jess is dying. So we really should, if you are a Patreon supporter, this other episode will probably be coming out soon after, right? When you're going to put up a video. Yeah, totally. Maybe even before this episode.

And it's a check-out report. It's going to be lot of fun I've had a lot of fun researching this also we We mentioned earlier this week that We are very very close to our Patreon goal. That's what got his regret face going already Our patreon goal of two thousand dollars, which means that either Matt or myself are gonna get a tattoo or we will Record a director's commentary on every episode of the nanny. It's up to you, those are the three options. So I like the nanny option.

No, just punking you, you're definitely getting a tattoo on your neck mask. One of us is getting a tattoo. So if you are... Just once one, so the people vote for her. But seriously, I put my hand up and said, I will get a tattoo at 2000 and then you jumped on the bandwagon

I thought it'll be fun now you want to jump off the bandwagon. No, I don't want to jump off I just want the people to vote for you. Yeah, I want people to vote for me too. We'll film it We'll film it. Do you want to see Jess getting tattooed? It's I'm gonna be like so Expressive in my face. She's she'll express things guys I'll get a tattoo then I'll be, then all three of us will have tattoos and I won't be the odd one and I'll blow it up. So vote for Jess, thank you. So anyway, jump on the page if you would like to.

It can support us. Yeah, you get the bonus episodes if you use support us at a certain level or you get to share that. So you get all sorts of things and don't forget to go on YouTube and check out that live episode with Mesa. It was a lot of fun.

That's on our YouTube channel. With all our episodes, Matt's nearly uploaded. I'd say two thirds of all our back catalogues on YouTube now, youtube.com slash do go on pod, getting contact via Facebook, Instagram and Twitter at do go on pod, or email us. Jess loves emailing. She's on it every single day. Do go on pod at gmail.com if you want to suggest a topic. Honestly guys, I am checking that email while I'm sitting at work board, so like get in touch. Put a smile on her down. Yeah, have a chat, I'm there.

I get we've got a really good one from an American AFL converse. We did. We get some really great emails actually. When we were driving the other day, I wrote him quite a long, tedious reply. I saw that. I saw that today because I saw thanks for the reply amount. I said, I wanted Matt to say it. I was like, I was a fucking essay.

But it was lovely. It was lovely, but mine are not essays, but I will touch upon points that you make and have a bit of fun with you. That's real good. What an honor. Cool. And finally, if I could just say a little something.

I've noticed a lot of people that listen to our show. I asked them how they found the show. And it's a lot of the time they say, a friend put me onto you. So if you can't afford to help out with the Patreon, try to understand that. But if you wanna keep the show going. But yes, if you would like us to maybe come to your town,

the more people that listen there, the more like we're gonna come there. And the way you can do that is suggest our podcast to a friend that listens to podcasts. Share the love. That's very nice. That would be really nice to me to put a little thing on Facebook and say,

hey, I love this podcast, you should check it out. We'd appreciate that 1 million percent. Absolutely. Out of 1 million. Well, that's so true. All of them. Could have just said 100%. Yeah.

Not as impressive sounding though. So thanks so much for listening guys. We'll be back next week with another report, but until then, I will say, goodbye. Later, do Mac well, Don. Hey. Is that anything? He's now.

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