Two In The Think Tank - 96 - The Great Maple Syrup Heist

Episode Date: August 23, 2017

This week's episode focusses on (maybe) the most Canadian crime ever, the great maple syrup heist! Thousands of barrels of the sweet stuff went missing in 2012, how did it happen? How do you steal so much syrup?!? Find out and hear Jess laugh lots along the way! Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Twitter: @DoGoOnPod Instagram: @DoGoOnPod Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod Email us: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit PlanetBcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On My Name is Dave Warnocky and I'm talking into a microphone with a couple of others talking into microphones. It's just Perkins and Matt Stewart. This is a microphone? What do you think it was a paddle pop?

Yes, and I was like, the flavor is lacking. This is why am I talking into it? Yeah, I was like, why are you guys talking into your delicious treats? Man, taste good. Maddie, stop looking at it. You don't know whose mouths have been on that. I know exactly, his mouth has been on that. How are you boys?

I'm so good. Matt's pretty good, I'm so good. Matt's just come back from a sweet little jaundent Brisbane. Had a great time in Brisbane, actually, yeah. It was a lot of fun. You've been doing a lot of listeners. People look there are keen to get us up to do a live part and I hope

we refuse. No, we love to. No, I was going to say hopefully you guys don't mind but I basically promised a few different people that we'd be coming up later this year. Okay, cool. Okay, who did you promise to me? The mayor, Mr. Mayor. I'm also Mrs. Mayor.

Dammit. This is a double whammy. It's going to say Tom Tate, my favorite mayor, but that's Gold Coast, which we could also visit. Tom Tate's there as well. You know the mayor of Gold Coast. He is a great source of humor. Okay.

Is he better than the mayor of Jolong? Yes, is that still that? I don't know. The paparazzi blood? No, I don't think so. The guy with the fake six pack. On top of a big old set. If you're from overseas and you don't know, where you once had a mayor who was a factor.

Not way, gelong. Gelong, which is a city that's really close to Melbourne. Had a mayor, was he named Darren? Yeah. Darren something who was a former paparazzi that worked in England. And he's a fat guy but he wanted to look muscular so we got like a surgical implants to make him look like you have a six fat over his fat And he always had like a rainbow mohawk his hair was always very interesting. He was a real cool character. He's so cool. Wait, hang on.

He is. Yeah, no. Anyway, Brisbane was a good time, Matt. Brisbane was a real good time. Yeah, I had a really fun time. I did some fun shows, but yeah. How you up? How you up? That was really good. So I don't know.

I liked it up there. There was one guy I liked who brought a few friends. I don't know if that was listening or not, but they were very nice people. That's good. His name was the Honorable Gareth Jones, and he works for a company, according to his ticket purchasing information.

Huge dildos incorporated. You got me a beauty, they're honorable, Garith. And yet, yes, Matt does check every person that comes with shows personal details. Now, the venue actually pointed that out to me. They're like, did you see this guy? Also Matt, listen, I called Chelsea, and I've met a bunch of listeners. They're all very cool people. I've met a bunch of listeners. They're all very cool people.

I shouldn't single any of them out. But here you are doing exactly that. Gareth and Chelsea, just two names of them in my head. But so many nice cool people. That's awesome. Come on. Also, Shepard, who is a Twitter follower as well. Yep.

Who's one of those ones that never shows his face. And I saw his face. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, thank you to the people of Brisbane for taking some pity on our little Maddie. Yeah, thanks guys. And soldering on through that hour of pain and suffering. I really am.

Yeah, I didn't know. There's no good. I know. We know. We have to sit through it next week. Well, Matt is bringing his hour of pain and suffering to us. To us. No, that's comedy. To week. Well, we will. Matt is bringing his hour of pain and suffering to us. To, no, it's comedy. To Sydney.

The comedy show. I mean, not subjective, isn't it? It's, we don't. And it's subjectively. A comedy show. Objectively objective. There we go, yeah. Oh my God.

But you are coming to Sydney this weekend. And as I just and I for our live show on Sunday, do not forget it's sold out. But if you have a ticket holder, please to come down to the Chippo hotel this Sunday afternoon But what if no one came? That'd be amazing. Well, we'd have we'd have the money. We'd have a party and we could just hang out We'd probably just record the episode in a

No one come. We still have to make the recording happen because we've got to put the episode out that way It'll just sound really empty and sad. We'll probably just take it back to the hotel room. Oh yeah, okay. Get drunk. Yes. Alright. I'm sober. So if you didn't get a ticket to the live show, you can come there and still be in the same room as us. One of us will be talking. It'll be like one of the episodes where I do a report like today. I can heckle you if you like. If people want to hear our voice. If you guys could chip in. If you need, if you want to take a little break from your little show, and your little skits and riddles,

then that day of the week I could jump up. Yeah, I'll tag in at any time. Yeah. I'm gonna, I'll tag you guys in at some point. I know some of your bits. I do too. I'm really... And not your comedy bits'm gonna I'll tag you guys in at some point. I know some of your bits. I do too. I'm not your comedy bits. And I'll do one. You're gonna do me a bit. I don't believe you. You still haven't humped a watermelon. Your name is mud. That's because you refuse to film it. I do not refuse.

Well I mean I I won't film it sure but yeah I guess I do refuse. We're I mean, I, I, I won't film it, sure, but yeah, I guess I do refuse. Well, speaking of other things, we'll set up a camera. That we promised we would do. We also had a Patreon goal that you or I would get a tattoo, and we put that out to the people. And Matt, you kind of put the poll at the day, but I actually don't know the results. Oh, right. Oh, cool. I mean, the results were a little while. So it's closed. Like we had legit not being kept in the loop. It's closed.

And I mean, it's closed. And even if it wasn't, there weren't enough people left who could have found out. In the world. In the world. It was that much more than four billion votes. And the votes went by more than 70%. Wow.

Close to 80% to Jess Perkin. Oh, I'm genuinely surprised. I would have thought people would have loved to have seen you in pain. Well, no, I was thinking that just because they could have chosen my tattoo, it seemed like a more exciting thing. But I think in the end they were just like just once or more. So. Which is so lovely and so typical of our list. We're like, oh, let's give Jess a little.

You guys are the best. So I'm going to get a tattoo. Look, 780% of them are the best. Yeah, the other ones look home with them. If I was them, I would have voted for me as well. No doubt about it. And I was willing to get someone pretty wild. Some probably relieved.

Maybe in the future. So what are you gonna get, Jess? I'm gonna get a banana playing the ukulele. Oh, this is so good. And it also has a swastika tattoo. It's a, whoa! Okay. It's not me, it's the banana.

It loves it. Is that a political statement? It's weird, I don't understand. It's what I want. Oh, it's okay, it's what you love. I love ukuleles. Oh, no, okay, I don't understand. It's what I want. Oh, it's for Kay, it's what you love. I love ukuleles. Oh, no, okay, don't go on. You're really trying to take some heat from me?

Yeah, I think so. Thought we'd sort of moved on from any sort of sympathies, but. Look, it just slipped out of my mouth. And you just kept chasing it. Let's pod. All right, well, we will be filming just getting that tattoo very very soon We also did another poll or I did a poll personally for my topic this week And I put it out to the all the people after first time and there were I gave ten options, right?

Oh And they're all based on Canada so So they're all Canadian related topics. Awesome. One came out in front by like a decent margin. It got over a third of the votes. It's a pretty pretty chunky result. Oh, wow. And you got quite a few votes this time. Ten hot space?

Yeah, there were hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. Awesome. That's great. But the winner, oh, I guess I asked the question. I get the reason people ask me to do a Canadian report is because there's a celebration of 150 years of white settlement there I guess it's sort of it's a slightly controversial one because much like our own Australia People like it's really split the country. I don't know as much about Canada obviously

And I really probably am not in any place to talk about it, so maybe I shouldn't, but I know. I've got a couple of questions. But it's more about, it's like people wondering, is it, should we be celebrating this event that was so painful to the indigenous peoples of the country? I go like out some of the, one of the,

maybe it's Vancouver, have called their celebration Canada 150 the, one of the, maybe there's Vancouver of called their celebration Canada 150 plus sort of like and they're, they almost called it off. I think there's Vancouver, they were talking about it maybe being inappropriate but they ended up sort of talking to community groups and so anyway that's not what this topic is about. That's why the Canadian topic vote. Yep, right. And we had a few Canadian people being like, hey, talk about micro-country. Yeah. We've done, we have done a few in the past. We did the one about the Montreal screwdriver which was quite Canadian-related. We also did-

Montreal being in the title. Yes, that's true. That helps. But also the key wrestler there was a Canadian man. But also David at a topic called- The Octopacris crisis, which is a classic Canadian kid napping story. Have you ever heard that one? I'd never heard of it before, it's fun. Anyway, here's the question for this week's topic. What is said to be the most significant agricultural crime ever committed in Canada? Agricultural crime. Oh, the great corn steel. Oh man, that is so close. That is so ridiculous.

What are you talking about? The great something, something heist is what it is. The great corn heist is the great maple syrup heist. Even more. Man, that's seriously. That was so good. The corn syrup is like, oh yeah. That is the so good. That's what I meant. Man, that's seriously. That was so good. You're so cool. Corn syrup is like, oh yeah.

That is for so good. That's what I meant. Corn syrup hised everyone. You misspoke and you met Maple syrup. They've got it everybody. Yeah. So, cut to go a little more Canadian on your food stuff. The great Maple syrup hised.

Man, we could have made Moose jokes. I'm so sorry. And this was suggested by Megan Elizabeth at Megan Harvey on Twitter. She also offered up herself as a tribute, I think she said. Which is like, that's like talk from that movie with the bone-o. Yes. The Hunger Games. Blow-heart. Oh my God, I think you mean Robin Hood?

Blow-heart. What did you think? I'm not sure where I was going to hang on. I'm not sure. Why did you think the'm not sure why did you think the hunger games that that youth Heart does someone about hard in it no blow heart No, it's one of the main characters called blow heart catness So close is like corn to maple syrup. Yeah, we're Oh, heart. There's no heart in it.

No. She's the mocking J. Yep. All right, well, end of story. That's not the end of the story anyway. Well, it said one thing right anyway. You're a Hunger Games fan. Huge.

Really? Loved it. Like, the books or the? The books. And the movies were fine. I'm not over it now, but I went through a phase of like, I was up to like 3 I'm smashing through the book I loved him. I like Philip Seymour Hoffman. Yeah he's great. Do they had to turn it into a robot or something

The last one didn't they? No. No. Or animate him. No. I think he's he's seems to already been filmed I think. Might have been a different film. I thought that he died before that last one. Oh god we're taking a long time to get up. We'll have more of an AKA blowhard. Thank you. Alright, anyway, so this topic is better be good so I can blowhard. Before I get into the heist, which is blowhard. So I can blowhard. Now blowhard is the, he's the wrestler from the Montreal screw job.

That's not. Blow the hitman heart. Is that right? No. Fine, I'm taking requests. So I should probably up right up the top, going to talk a little bit about the maple syrup industry in Canada. Right. In particular in Quebec, which is where this all went down. In Quebec there's an organization called the Federation the Pued Doctor Arslerios Doobclobac

I'm so sorry everyone They have sort of felt French Did it How? I was sorry with you I'm gonna call it I'm gonna call it F-PAC F-P-A-Q

Because that's what it Okay A abbreviate stand two In English it's the Federation of Quebec Maple Syrup produces basically That makes sense It was set up in 1966 which Jess as you'd know is a as a good year because of the Saints won their only permission oh my god you have never I was like this is the first time Matt ever paused or let me do it a good year and it was because you wanted to make a Saints reference fair enough

carry on England also won won the soccer World Cup. So they're two shit football teams who won their only things in that year. So it's an interesting year. FPAC is an organization that regulates the production of maple syrup. They are a private organization and are sometimes described as a legal cartel.

Right, so they're mobsters of the... They're like legal mobsters of the maple syrup game. That's crazy! Yeah. Hell, okay, yep, I'm in. So the cartel, I'm in the cartel. The fuck? Ask me anything.

Hey, I heard them down on New Street. What is that character? I'm trying to be your mobster, but I've sucked in some helium, okay? I caught back in. Yeah, did you hear down on new street? Thank God Trying to use maple syrup on their pancakes with that pain is off boss. That French can aid you absolutely not It's no, that's very offensive I'm so sorry never back. I'm going back to the other coat Hey I'm so sorry, never back. I'm going back to the other coat. I just have one coat.

Hey. And it's a great character. Hey, I've also got Michael Cain, so. That's true. Fucking two plus. Does Michael Cain like Michael Sir? Hello, I'm Michael Cain and I do not like Michael Sir. I do not like Michael Sir.

It's in my family. In my family, we always called it Michael Sir. Because I liked it as a kid, but I grew up and I didn't like anymore. So the F-pack or the producers represented by F-pack, they produce over 70% of the world's syrup. That's so much of it. And that's just in Quebec. That's so much.

That's tapes. 70% of And that's just in Quebec. That's so much. That's haps. 70% of the world though. Over 70%. And it's just one place that makes over that's haps, eh? Flaw. I don't know what she's doing either. Well, at zero, what a lot of responsibility they must feel.

Hey. It's a lot. Flaw. Ciro. What's happening? responsibility they must feel. Hey! It's a lot. Whoa! Sarah! What's happening? Why won't you look at me? Well, I'm not just making fun of you. Usually you're the one who's like,

the Spice Girls sold millions of records, guys. It's so good. It's so good. It's so she's making fun of me for saying. I'm hyped up. Am I, are you making fun of me for telling you a fact about syrup? I mean, that's what I'm here to do. There's no major. You're not wrong, dig a one. So with this much control over supply, the organization is also able to control the

price, which is what they do. And maple syrup is now worth more than oil. So one source, what, sorry, what? Yeah. So one source say that it's worth about $1300 per barrel and other one saying about $1600. Obviously it fluctuates a bit, but it's a lot of money. Right. So I think that you were saying that the industry wise, it's worth more. No, no, no, no, not quite, but just by the barrel. What if we, it would cost you more to buy a barrel of maple syrup than a barrel of oil, which I think makes sense to me. What if we invented a maple syrup powered car?

No, that's a stupid idea, because it would cost you so much money. Oh, of course you do. What are you, what's that gonna... What's your, how's your iron? It's your iron. It's like your iron. Feel like that maybe would help the environment.

It smells good. It smells so good. That's those two things, or. I feel like that maybe would help the environment. It smells good. It smells so good. That's those two things, or what I always think, you know. You would never need an air freshener. The fumes would be delicious. The money you'd save on air fresheners. I mean, they already are, obviously, but. Yeah, I just try to save the world.

One pancake at a time. Yeah, you're under something. The organization maintains a strategic reserve of syrups, this is what often Yeah, you're under something. The organization maintains a strategic reserve of syrups. This is what often the sort of cartels do they, so control supply, they stockpile it rather than so the market isn't flooded. My syrup. After a big harvest, you know, they'll stockpile it so that in the leaner years they can maintain

supply. Is it like in one maintain the price? Is it in one like giant fistake? They've got an aquarium that they bought from the Canadian government filled it with maple syrup. There's one shark in there and it is not okay. He's not very well. No, that's definitely not what happened. So this is a reserve, right? They call it the international strategic reserve. Paired with the fact that they produce a high percentage of the world's product. This means that they can control the supply.

It is sometimes referred to as the OPEC of maple syrup. I think they're often being pejorative when they do that, but OPEC being the organization of the petroleum exporting countries. Yeah, and what do we put petroleum in? A lot of things. Cars. Point well made. It's a point well made.

You're all right, rest my case. The defense rests. The strategic reserves are spread across a few warehouses in rural Quebec towns, including in St. Anton, Deltilly, which is the largest. Well, I didn't try to wear the French accent because you really... No, I go for it. No, how you... You're right. Maddie. This one holds over 6,000 tons. There's also one in Plessy Svill with around 1,500 tons. And after a bumper season, they opened a third warehouse in Saint Louis.

A third aquarium. De Blasphot, which holds 4,500 tons. Fish. Saint Louis, the Blanford. 4,500 tons. 1,000 tons. This last warehouse was set up in 2011, and our story starts the following year.

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Do you know? Like if this story was visually provocative, we'd be fucked. You know? I'm not going to make a describe it. But a wild sound. Close your eyes now, please. Picture this. Unless you're driving. It was a Canadian summer's day

when Michael Guivaro was doing an annual inventory check at the Sanleuid de Bluffon warehouse. Sanleuid de Bluffon is a small town, northeast of Montreal, with a population of approximately 900 people. So a very small town. You're picturing that in your mind, so I just keep those fucking eyes closed. Okay. Dave, I was talking to Dave.

I can't tell, my eyes are closed. You enjoy that too much. That was very nice. The way... The way... Is way... The way... Is that why you look like when you sleep? Because it's creepy. Look, I'm going to make a confession.

I have to close my eyes hard. Because otherwise they drift open. I'm not even... I sleep drift, though. You'll find when we two are this weekend, my eyes just open. And I sleep with them half way open. And I work out with dry eyes. So you were laughing in a medical condition miss miss Perkins.

I have to close my eyes. So hard. Close my eyes so hard. Good night. Good night. I'm gonna sleep so hard tonight. Rooool. Fucking come at me dreams. That all you got.

Oh! Unicorns, yeah, that all you got. Oh, no, it's pretty good actually. Yes, stick with that thing. Yeah, that's good. I'm winning a gold medal of the Olympics and Nens alive. Yes, great. It is a hard run.

Really hard. Picture this day, the warehouse was floor to ceiling with big barrels of maple syrup. Floor to ceiling. It's in photos of it. It's just like it's just trockers. How do you get to the top one, dude? They have a big ladder like Bell has in Beauty and the Beast. The way they talk about it with Gavro,

it was just like he was climbing across them. So he's just doing an inventory ride, just checking in one Yeah, one the barrel Two were barrel. I don't know why he says it with the A in the first three you barrel No, I don't have a rhythm to it Five the barrel Six the barrel a seven of barrel more and then again, and it just likes right

Many many barrels, many barrels. So many barrels. But he was climbing across the barrels apparently to count them all over. And he wasn't really expecting to find anything out of the ordinary. It was just every year they do this and it's just checking the barrels. Having a great time. Sure. This guy loves counting barrels.

Stocktake, do we know who's done many stocktakes? But then as he climbed high, he felt that a barrel below him was much lighter than it was. I love scanning barrels. Stocktakes, do we? I've done many stocktakes. But then, as he climbed high, he felt that a barrel below him was much lighter than it should have been. So light that he struggled to hold at his weight on top of it and it nearly toppled over. This was strange as barrels should weigh over 600 pounds or 270 kilos. And he weighs less than that. He weighs much, much less.

Right. I wasn't even a giant man. David is a close-hearted and a good picture. Some sort of sumo wrestler climbing barrels. So when it sort of toppled, he went up to it and he tapped the barrel and it made like a gong sound. No, he tapped it and he heard a little, hello. Ha!

I'll get out of there I'll just be a minute What are you doing in there? You filling up the barrel Oh after it wobbling Then tapping and making a gong sound he's like why do I maybe I should check? Like this guy's gonna do like a night nine six. So in the way I was like, I reckon I would have skipped

from the nearly toppling to the lid. Yeah. Straight away. Mm. I'm gonna smell it first. Yeah. I'm gonna listen. Listen to see there's a maple syrup in there.

I don't wanna jump to any conclusions. I'm gonna sleep out tonight with the barrel. See if anything happens. I'm gonna buy the barrel dinner and see if it lets me in itself. Oh! Oh, so I have to play hard to get. Okay, I'll just have to open up the lid. Oh, wait, what the fuck?

It's empty! What the fuck is Sarah? I just paid for dinner. Why did you buy the barrel? $60 bottle of wine. Stake? No, just liquor. It's only at 60 dollars in my card.

His first instinct was that this was just a little anomaly. One empty barrel in a warehouse full of full barrels. So it was just empty. It was just empty. Maybe I was hoping there'd be something in there. Maybe there's like a ransom boat. Or like an ancient golden artifact. Jess thinks this is gonna be a really wild stupor.

You said it was pretty wild. It was pretty wild. It was wild. We're syrup as well. We're syrup has been replaced by ancient golden artifact. Yeah. Look Jess, he said it's gonna be a cool story, but don't aim that. I don't even think I said it was a cool story.

He said wild. Did I? You said the word wild? I'm prone to her perbly Anyway, there's please want back your expectations never they are sky high so tell us more about this artifact Like is it look like a big was it solid gold? Was it of a pharaoh? How did it get to Canada of a pharaoh? How did it get to Canada? Did the Queen one zone it?

I mean you're asking a lot of questions, all the answers will be there. Sorry, sorry. We always jump ahead to the ancient artifact. We get so excited. So he didn't think it was going to find any more empty ones but soon more barrels were found. I didn't side them, more ancient golden artifacts. Every time did you go through this nine step process? Tap tap tap. Listen listen.

It took, listen. Fucking ages. 60 dollar bottle of wine. He's growing up. I've spent 60 grand. Thousand bottles of wine. Some of those that seemed to be full were actually full of water as well. Oh. So there was some empty but many more were just sitting there full of water so seemingly

full. Like when you take your parents liquor and you top up the bottle with water. Very much like that. If you're smart you do it with tea. It's good. I get, I've heard. But that would affect the taste more I would think. Yeah.

Your parents aren't idiots. I know, yeah, I'm, because you're finished it entirely. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha a brew on. Matt's making tea again. Every Sunday, Mom. Every Sunday. I love a cuppa. Anyway, I'll just be in the den next to your liqueur collection. No reason. Oh, the den, that is classic afflone. Imagine having a den. You couldn't afford a fucking den. We had a run. Did you have nine to a bedroom at once? I didn't. Four. Four to a bedroom. That's all't you? Four. Four to a bedroom. That's all of you. Yeah. Why were you all in one room?

Was it two bedroom house? And all four kids in one room. Yeah, all right, two bedrooms, but how many dens? We didn't have a den. Oh, they didn't have a den. It's bloody bullshit. How quaint. How the other half.

What is a den, even mean? Is that like a second lounge? If you don't, no. Come on, third lounge. Yeah, a rump, Dan, even Maine? Is that like a second lounge? Oh, it's a second lounge. No, no. Come on. Third lounge. Matt, yeah, a rumpus room, a formal dining room, a media center, an informal dining room.

Full house, billiard room, library, study, smoking room, green house, plus nine bedrooms. And various weapons. Yeah. Of course, there's also secret rooms that I won't talk about them on the show. Seriously. Sex down. And that's just the bungalow. So, nearly...

Why would the bungalow have a pool house? You're fucking idiot. We're very... People, you know, they have money. They don't know what to do with it. People, people. They have people, please. But a big, but a bomb.

So nearly 540,000 gallons of syrup had been stolen. Fuck! Which is a really big chunk of their strategic service. I thought millions of liters. Okay, thank you. I was gonna ask what a gallon, how much a gallon is. I've said, and millions and millions of dollars worth. Oh.

And that's how one of the largest agricultural crime investigations began. The F-PAC headquarters were alerted and the cops were brought in. Is there a specific branch of the police for agriculture? No, for maple syrup, I imagine, Canada. That's very, very good. Like us with beer. Detective. Get the beer squad out.

Detective Smith, beer squad. Is this fun vanity fair article. Um, was it fun? You shot you shot your broad so fun The there's this vanity anyway. It was a lot of fun. There's fun vanity fair article and an else and I Fun vanity fun more like it fun. It fun Fun vanity fun more like it fun. It's an awesome great questions about the mystery like who would still syrup and Even if some sick bastard wanted to what would he carry it away in how far could he get? I'm wondering all these things that So fun, it's fun man. That's fun. You better watch it. I'm really hyped. I'm gonna just stay quiet for a little bit. What you sound a little drunk

You totally did have you been drinking? I have you been into your mums looking coming in the den again. Yeah, you don't know me. You know me, mom I don't live with my mom. Don't drink a fucking tea mom. I mean Burbin. She's not dead. I just don't live with her. Yeah, but nan's alive in your dreams She's not dead, I just don't live with her. Yeah, but nan to live in your dreams. Hahaha. A colon who wrote the Vanity Fair article went on to say that there was something stirring about making off with all that syrup. It bubbled the mind, felt less like a crime than a prank.

What you might do to your brother if you were an all powerful and he had a lot of syrup. You wanted to steal two million liters of syrup. I really enjoyed Cohen's work there. It's a prank. I've stolen several hundred million dollars of syrup. Gotcha. But I mean, you're making a joke of a joke that he already made. Dave, all right? Not to no Andrew, but... Hey, hey, Vanity Fair, there's no joke there.

What is not a joke? He was having fun. I don't think he was. He spoke to a hotel waiter in Montreal and the waiter said, Sirip is heavy and sticky. How do you hide it? Who do you get to smuggle it? Where can you sell it? It's like stealing salt out of the sea. Danny pants. Absolutely. That's how you say smuggler that you put

damn pants. It's like stealing salt out of the sea. Yeah, I don't think it's like that at all. I'm putting it in the pants. It's like stealing syrup out of barrels. Yeah, if you can steal salt out of the sea, you could probably get syrup out of trees yourself. Is that where syrup comes from? Yeah, it's sap. Is it tree blood? I think it's like sap and then they do stuff to it and then it like thins it out and maybe it's like whatever it... You know, I can't tell you all the secrets. It sounds like you're working for them. But anyway, what a bloody mystery.

Any theories at this point? Cause I'm about to tell you what happened. I'm stank. Matt, it's gotta be an inside job. You can't just steal that. Inside job is good, Dave. Without people knowing. You want to build on inside job? Half't just steal that inside job is good day that people knowing you want to build on inside job half a million gallons is ridiculous it's not like if someone stole ten barrels and suddenly Barry was having a bit more pancakes than usual you'd be like all right well fucking Barry did it Barry you know it wasn't Barry but good guess Jess you get the final guess you know you know

you you ask me if I want to build on inside job it's an inside pants job it happened inside pants you say they put the maple soup down their pants yeah yeah that feels like why not but like pants with like a tight cuff at the bottom oh my god what was some sort of scuba diving outfit that keeps the liquid in. Yeah. Like they've lined themselves with baking paper. What are those patterns you wear when you go fishing?

Gumboots. They're filled gumboots. It's brilliant. My favorite highest is when it ends with them walking out the front door. Yeah, that's the maple syrup shop. Doing a shui of maple syrup on the front door step. Yeah, that's my theory. Celebratory shui. All right, or, or, or gum be in

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the GI Bill. Now is the time. Mycomputercareer.edu. So the investigation was initially led by the Quebec police. Before the Royal Mounties came in and got involved, I was just making a super Canadian. GCC Dudley do, right? Yeah, I reckon I did back in the day with Brendan Fraser. Yeah.

Frasier. What a guy. Brendan, Brendan, Brendan. a guy. Oh guy, look at these fallen on hard times. It was much better in Taz now. According to one photo of the show. Is that what you mean? I've seen it a few interviews. He's not looking too great. All right, mate. Well, we don't all have great watches and great faces. Well, I judge people that don't. Alright, I fall in east. The the investigation was broad and costly. They didn't have a lot to go on, but they chased up every lead. Any talk of black market syrup, they were all over it. Can you say it was broad and costly again? Just trust me to be worth it. It was broad and costly. Well, I'm a costly broad.

It wasn't worth it. I'm not sure if we just get Jess's mic. Yeah, it's off. I did say I'd be glad. I'm sorry. It's now officially off. So as a huge investigation, around 300 people were questioned and 40 search warrants were taken out. And it was all worth it because it led to the arrests of 26 people

Those 26 arrests led to varying results some charges were drops Some charges were dropped some were acquitted and I believe there is ongoing legal action actually in this case It's that reason that it's still Happening so I should say allegedly or probably. But these are all, all this is from court reports. Just wondering what their plan was, was it extortion, were they gonna try and sell it? Yeah, I think this probably tells us how current it is.

There's not even a Wikipedia page dedicated to it yet. We could be that Wikipedia page. You could be that way. We could to it yet. We could be that Wikipedia page. We could be that one. We could be a source. We could be a source. Someone do that. That'd be cool. We could be a source or a serum or yeah, no, I'm going back on.

Sorry. Doesn't have to turn itself back on there. So, chord action is still going out. It does seem like the investigation was pretty efficient. Obviously, it was a rest. Within the year of the crime being discovered, one of the leading investigations Lieutenant Guy Lipel of the Quebec police told reporters that they were well on their way to busing the case wide open, saying they were basically inside guys, they've suggested.

The leader wasn't with the Federation, but he had access to the warehouse that would not attract any suspicion. The leader, La Ponce spoke of, was Avic Corone. This wasn't a house that Corone went searching for though, rather it landed right on his doorstep. When in 2011 the F-Pac rented a warehouse co-owned by his wife. That warehouse was the one at St. Louis, Diplofont. Man, it feels like I'm saying a French word there.

It would make my dreams come true if I'm anywhere near it. I like our reporter, Graham Hamilton, from the National Post-Portity, said it was, as if he had been handed the keys to a bank vault Karen almost immediately began looking for black market buyer who could convert the syrup filled barrels into cash in his pocket. And what's this to his name? F-pack. No F-pack's the... Sorry, yeah, that's a bad... It's just hard to follow when you're saying these French names and you're like, sorry, what, was that a word? Because he's how he started early.

I only just took a pocket full down to the pub. Hey, put your hand in my right pocket. You will not be disappointed at this time. It's pure. It's pure. I'll give it to you for a buck. Or it's a ton of money. That's the best part.

All of that for a pawn of B. Soon after F-Pack started filling the warehouse with Syrup back in 2011, a friend introduced Carol to Richard Valieros, I don't know, I have no idea how to pronounce that, a man who made his money buying and selling Syrup, often bending the rules and getting around the federation system. He was, this sort of role was known as being a barrel roller. I was sort of the slang term for, he'd take it and he'll sort of almost re-badging it.

I'd love to see his LinkedIn profile. Barrel roller. Barrel roller. 2009 to 2011. 2009. Well, I got it. Oh yeah, that makes sense. I did not understand.

Turn me off again. Did you... Is it? What is it tonight? I don't know. Have you had like pure maple syrup? Did you... is it? What is it tonight? I don't know. Have you had like pure maple syrup? Did you know this episode was coming out? Yeah.

It's like your buzzin'. Yeah, your buzzin'. I'm gonna sit back here now. No, I'm enjoying it, I'm sure. No, the list is a not. I reckon I'm pretty sure some of them will be hating it. But some of them will be fucking loving it. And the ones who hate it will be the ones who get in contact.

Hey Jess, shut the fuck up, like, right now. Ah, they're the vocal minority. During the autumn of 2011, a truck started arriving at the salue de Blifal, warehouse. One of these some will get that right. It would load up barrels of syrup from the spring harvest. From there, the barrels would be driven to Raymond Valerus, sugar shack. Sugar shack. Have you heard of sugar shack?

I don't know. They're sugar shack. Sugar shack is a small cabin where the sap is boiled down to make maple syrup. Isn't that also what you call your balls, Dave? Sugar shack. Sugar shack. Get a little sugar shack. No, it's shack mate. Sugar shack. Get the sugar shack. Get a little more sugar shack. Nah, it's shack mate. Sugar shack. When the shack's are rocking. Leave my balls alone. I got issues. Stop rocking them.

Stop rocking them. My balls. I'm trying to sleep. I've already closed my eyes really, huh? I can't both close my eyes and settle my balls hard at the same time. It's one or the other. If my eyes are closed, the bulls get bloody out of control.

It's a weird thing that I got. I didn't know that bulls did that. Yeah, well. I'm missing out. You sure are. You sure are. It's not a curse, it's not a blessing, yes. Double-edged sword.

Sugar's shack. But it's no one noticing that there's a truck that's. Double-edged sword. Sugar shack. But it's no one noticing that there's a truck that's rocking up and taking a lot of barrels away. Is there security cameras and stuff? Interesting. I'm going to talk about security in a little bit. So you want to notice that with my perfect pronunciation that Raymond and Richard share the same name.

Raymond is Richard's father. name. Raymond is Richard's father. The barrel roll is dad. So it's his sugar shack where they're taking the barrels too. And from there at the sugar shack, that's where they'd empty the barrels, siphoning them out, basically like they were siphoning out petrol from a car. With their mouth. Well, you don't have to get to get the flow going. Yeah. And then they'd fill them with water from a nearby creek before returning them to the warehouse. And what are they tipping them into though? They're tipping them into less sanitary vestibules. Like coke bottles.

No, there are other barrels, but they're.... But apparently that's really unsentory. One of the judges in a case was mentioning how they were not particularly food safe. So a toilet. And there were, there were some talks that I don't think a toilet, no, because that would, I mean, what would the point of that be? Washing it down. No one would funny when Dave said that. That's interesting. No one would ever question it though, would anyone ever question that? No one would be like, are you a keeper? What's this brand goo in the toilet? Yeah, no one wants to ask that question.

No one does trust me. What are you suggesting that they... They're flushing, like you know what? Flush it and then somewhere down the sewer. The only... The only sort of barren type thing that i'm associated with this is the beer barren episode this instance where home of bold ball bowling balls full of liquor

yeah and i'm thinking that they're flushing toilets full of maple syrup to some to look for the down toilets no no no they're flushing maple syrup down the toilet the toilet is actually hooked up to an exclusive line. And it's pouring into most bars. You have to make sure you're using the right toilet. That makes sense.

You always have to full flush, because half a flush is not getting that gluggy liquid down. That's an Australian thing, David, I believe. The half and full flush is an Australian invention, you know. Really? God, we've made some good things, haven't we? Whistam. Hills hoist. Alright, done. Wi-Fi. Really? God, we've made some good things, haven't we? Wisdom. Hills hoist. Alright, done. Wi-Fi.

Vegemite. When was the last time you saw a Hills hoist? It's the thing that people always name about Australia. It's cheap. There's one in my apartment's back here. Alright, that's how do I give you an answer. Hall Hogan. Tax fraud.

Hmm. Allegedly. In some ways, this was a victim was crime. In other more accurate ways it was a very victimful crime. They've stole tens of millions of dollars from someone. With thousands of law abiding, syrup producers being the victims. I think that's my joke for the report. That was so good. I mean, Dave talked over, but that was. Matt, that joke was so funny. I actually really enjoyed it.

Cutting all this. That was so funny. You're so funny. This is all on the floor. You're wasting everyone's time. Fuck, middle-weird place. Is this not fun for you? I'm having a great time.

In the winter of 2011, 2012, the Creek near Raymond's sugar shack froze over, which meant a change of plans was required. Come on down to Raymond's sugar shack. We got all the sugar yielded. We got... Are you okay? I'm doing it out for Raymond's sugar shack. So, you really had peed it out there, yeah? Because I could have tops of sugar. You're going to all sugar.

Brown. We're going to sugar cane. Sexual sugar. That's a really fine one. Refined sugar? I just didn't even find one. So it's like a sugar. Brown sugar.

We got sugar syrup. We got gummy bears. What's the type of sugar? I can't. I'm so excited. I'm so excited right now. I don't believe you. Yeah, you said that a few times.

I know. So yeah, the creek there for us I had to come up with another plan and they tried because they couldn't wash out the barrels. They couldn't fill the barrels. That's where they were getting the water to fill the barrels. So they found another warehouse in Montreal and but the plan just kept on going unhindered. It was just like it sounds like there was never any suspicion. No one, no one care. Because okay, you say it's worth more per barrel than oil, but this wouldn't happen in the oil industry. Yeah. You couldn't just drive in, fill up your truck

full of barrels of oil and drive it to your own warehouse, tip him out and fill him with water and take him back. Take him back. There'd be a couple of questions. Yeah. And you couldn't do this, how many barrels do they lose? Uh, thousands. That, you couldn't do this hundreds of times. Yeah, over months and months, day after day. It's crazy! It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's this sort of what you've been alluding to. How do you picture the warehouse? Because when I'm thinking about it, like one of the main strategic stockpiles of this pure Canadian, like super important, supposedly super important, expensive, syrup.

What do you imagine? I was sort of imagining like this Fort Knox kind of. Yeah, like some machine guns. I wouldn't say machine guns. I reckon like barbed wire fence, possibly like guards patrolling a little bit. I was imagining it in a big stable. So we all went different ways there. You were close, so I think Jess, because it turned out that they were pretty cheap on security F-pack.

During a later trial, Patrick Matured, one of the owners of the warehouse in Suluy de Blappor, testified that F-package shown little to no concern for the security of the stockpile, saying that the warehouse had a fence locked with a padlock, the doors locked, and a foreman who lived on the site, but the federation declined to pay for additional security. He wanted to say that otherwise, as far as security goes, the Federation knew very well there wasn't any. It wasn't fortified.

There were no security cameras or guards. What the hell? Not even cameras. In many ways this did happen in the 1880s. It's ridiculous. In a barn. That's what it feels like in some moves. And also the sugar shack, how many barrels can that fit? I'm imagining like nine

Well, yeah, I guess the last casting sugar casting sugar last going for We go casting sugar Brad should right does his own ads. He's not good Come on down to Ravens sugar shack. Oh, we've got all your sugary needs. Remember, bulk discount's available if you mentioned the code word sugar daddy. And as we always say here at Sugar shack Raymond, what's the catchphrase again?

Sugar baby, all right. Ooh, sugar baby, all right. And he only got one take, didn't he? Well, yeah, he only needed one take, Dave. It wasn't that he only got, like, he booked the studio for an hour, it was a green screen. But he only needed the one. So with no one, no security or anything, no one suspecting anything was up.

They just became more and more brazen. Eventually, they just drained the barrels directly in the warehouse. In the end they just painted over the sign that just said, you know, owls now. Mine. They knocked on the form and it said, how you fired. Okay. Get your stuff and get out. Actually, don't get your stuff. That's owls now. I've just spray painted my name on it. Owls. That dog spray painted it. That's owls dog. I don't get your stuff. That's ours now. I'll just spray pantomint name on it. Owls. That dog spray-painted it. That's ours, dog. I don't think it can breathe.

I killed your dog. Now you can have that. You can take care of that dead body. I don't want it. I don't want to look after a dead dog. Well, you all might get it out of here. According to core documents of the 16,224 barrels stored I only only just found this out before so if I said some other number earlier this one's probably more accurate because this was I got this directly off a Canadian lore site that Megan sent me a link to because she was my, she was my, Philips him a half man Philips it she was my Philips him a half-man Philips. She is my Philips him a half-man. Oh, I bet it for her. Sorry Megan. What's the actual word?

Tribute. Tribute. This is just a tribute. So according to court documents of the 16,224 barrels stored, 9,571 barrels were emptied. 9,571. were emptied. Nine thousand five hundred and seventy one. What that is insane. Which represented a total of five million nine hundred and thirty five thousand two hundred and fifty pounds of maple syrup. Whoa.

Value it at approximately seventeen point eight million Canadian dollars. Whoa. Which I think is more would be twenty something Australian. Do you think that's funny now vanity fair? You're still having fun still pranking your brother. You dog. It's so fun Yeah, it's a good. He was having a bit of fun. So fun. I think it was an American writer I mean, you know, I think the American definitely different concept of fun They're made he was definitely looking at this is bang those quick little Canadians with their little funny crimes, which I guess is what we're doing.

Sorry everybody. Where is bad as Americans? No, I don't think that's right. I don't think that's right. What would be the equivalent in Australia of the maple syrup husk? Oh. The hill's always highest. Oh, that's good.

What would it be like a dingo, dingo baby? No, that happened and it was not that funny Oh, I'm not saying the dingo's are high-sting babies I meant like it'd be like dingo like dingo's offspring a pup Yeah, but we don't really that's not really an industry here is it just veggie might factory Be a veggie my factory Imagine trying to soften veggie my Keep sucking! It is thick.

I didn't like that sound. Oh no, I don't like that. They call it Vegemite black gold. They call it black oil, tech estate. Yes, it is. They call it black oil. Black oil. As opposed to...

Clear. I mean that was major. As opposed to clear. I mean, that was my joke. Olive oil is clear. You know, he's packing. Yeah, I've been stealing a bit of Vegemite from McDonald's myself. Where was that in his pants?

I don't even, I've just pulled out a little type of Vegemite. Do you think McDonald's around the world have Vegemite? Why were you at McDonald's without me? That question changed in the middle. Oh, yeah. When we fly to Sydney

together, can I get hash browns at McDonald's at the airport? No we're not we're not plugging McDonald's. Yeah this is what you buy movement watches not me not. So from there Valer sold the stolen syrup to a man named ATIN SON PIA. Nailed it. Or like if I was reading that out phonetically, be ATINY SANT PIA, who rebranded it so that appeared to be from New Brunswick rather than Quebec. So Quebec, in the Quebec world, that's like pretty tight, that's all F-PAC. New Brunswick, which is not far away. That's like, that's like pretty tight. That's all F-pack new bronze week, which is not far away

That's like that's the that's the free new world. Oh right. That's there anyone's That's a little bit looser over there, but it's nowhere near as big of a of a market and stuff there Raymond Valleier his son Richard and Atillon St. Piel Were all sent to trial and that trial occurred only last year. Oh wow. During the trial, St.Pierre told the jury, you can't prove what tree that syrup came from. Which seems like a dumb tactic to me.

Yeah, he was pleading that he was mentally ill. He was saying it was not guilty, and he's like taunting them basically. I would have said something like Surely you can prove that syrup I have is not the stolen syrup. I'm sure science could somehow prove that it's from New Brunswick not there, you know, you'd be playing dumb not going. I know you can't prove it. I know you can't I dare you to find me guilty I fucking dare yeah I might be reading it in a different tone. I've killed before and I'll kill again. What's that's it? And I've also stolen, I mean, no, I haven't, I haven't stolen maple syrup. I've just killed. Certainly not in this case. I don't

look I've stolen a lot of maple syrup, but not this particular thousands of thousands of pounds. I've stole different thousands of pounds. During the trial Sampier also admitted that he wasn't a fan of F-Pack and that he resented their control of the market Suggesting they alike him alike the mafia. I was hoping you gonna say that he said that he was not a fan of maple syrup and because of that I didn't do it. I didn't I'd look at I'll try maple syrup. Yeah I didn't I'd look I'll try my will syrup. Yeah, yeah, yeah, get out of my face. Yeah, good standard near it. I'm practically allergic. How could I steal 5,000 pounds off in this? Ah, oh, yeah, but really he said that he can't stand them and then they're not that's not looking good for him though is it? No, not really no. I'm buying it from Vallejo meant he didn't have to go through the federation. He despised so much.ier meant he didn't have to go through the

federation, he despised so much. So this was he was going to go through a barrel roller. In court Richard Valleier admitted that he did fill the barrels with water but said he was forced to buy an armed man who apparently threateningly told him, I know where you live. In that accent. And he did this over several months. Or still know where you live. Yeah. It should be honest, they formed quite a nice bond.

Young adult, had a little lunch breaks together. Yeah, it was quite nice. Like they'd chat about the footy and the weather would happen and then they'd just every nun then be like, just by the way, you've still got that gum. gum I know where you live mainly because I pick you up for work every morning at 9 a.m. Thank you for always bringing a coffee out into the car with with you for me that's very nice to show that you got access to sugar and I like it. Other than my favorite kind of excuses or alibi as to something is um I deaf I did everything you were accusing me of, obviously you've got a lot of proof, and I can't argue against that, I definitely did it. But I didn't want to, a guy that I can't name or tell you anything more about, said I have to do it, and yeah. And yeah, I'm sorry. Can I go? Is that enough?

Sorry to waste your time. I wish I was guilty too. Ha ha ha. It doesn't seem that he was able to identify the man. And the story didn't wash with the jury as he was found guilty of the theft, also fraud and trafficking stolen goods. His father, I'm going to start again because I sort of re-set something that already said it.

So if you match, um, anyway, it seems like this story about the man with the gun who, you know, allegedly exists as a real human. Um, apparently that didn't wash with the jury because he was yeah you same shocked. My mouth is agape. Did you think my next paragraph was going to be all about the man with a gun and how he did it? Do you know what I do? I'd say like I don't know what he looks like and I can't really describe his voice but I remember what he smells like so very therapy you want me to describe that to you great to he smells like links Africa so just find anybody yeah who uses that body spray and oh no the lead suspect is a 13 year old boy and Jim oh no oh oh miss look at him. He's got cerebral over him. He's sticky. He's got sticky fingers.

Oh, that's just being a teenage boy. Oh, I just mean because they're missy when they eat their lunch. Dave, come on. I think that's what we all meant Dave. What were you meaning? Yeah lunch. So sticky. Yeah, lunch. So, so sticky. His father Raymond was also fat. So, did I mention that he was found guilty of the theft fraud and trafficking? That was... A lot of the jury took him up on his dare. I dare you. Then they found him guilty. He went back five. Yeah, alright, we'll play. I doubled it. I did ask for that. His father Raymond was also found guilty, him on possession

of stolen goods and of fraud with the intention to traffic. And Sampier was found guilty of fraud and trafficking stolen goods. The guilty verdicts were handed down just last year, like I said, when the trial happened, but only a few months ago, the sentencing occurred. And this is, as it was reported in the Canadian press, this is how the sentences went down. So period call it justice, Raymond Prod novels, sentence Richard Valois,

to eight years in prison. It does sound a bit like you don't have permission to say their names, you sort of redacting them as you say it, but really you're just losing confidence. So eight years. Eight years also confiscated $606,000 from him and fined him a further 9.4 million. Oh, jeez! That's a son of a fine big fine in there and there. So he was convicted of the theft for receiving some goods. Well, we'll have to pay back the money over a 10-year period or risk having his sentence increased by six years. So you've got to pay 900 grand a year while living in prison, making no money. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. Or is it like they're like, he's sold, he's made so much money from these crimes. He's just got it and it's just a crewing interest in his account Yeah, I'm assuming that's not the case. So yeah, I don't know how do you come across? 900 thousand dollars a year. It's like so it's like be rich and You don't have to be in jail for another six years He's like well if I was rich I wouldn't have done this crime in the first place. What happened a democracy in Canada? It used to be in jail for another six years. Yes, well if I was richer wouldn't have done this crime in the first place. What happened in democracy in Canada? It used to be a beacon.

The other two men, Raymond Villar, and El Niel, Sampire, were each sentenced to jail terms of two years minus one day for some reason, to be served in the community, as well as three years probation. Raymond Villar? That's not a sentence at all. in the community as well as three years probation. Raymond, will be required to pay $9,840 within one year or go to jail for six months while some peer must pay $1.3 million over 15 years or be imprisoned for five years. It seems like such a width. It all seems so random. And I love how you will be punished in go to jail amongst society and live in society. It's not a view. Not in or T boy. Also one of you pays nine grand,

one of you pays nine million. Working out amongst yourselves. Either off, draw straws. Oh shit. Either of, draw straws. Oh shit. The one of the key characters who we talked about right up the top, I haven't mentioned for a while. What do you think I'm an in-carol? The man who allegedly kicked it all off. He played it unlike the others, he played it guilty. And the presiding judge, Jacques L'Aquau, noted that the court regard, this is what the judge said, the court regards this matter as the perfect illustration of the maximum opportunity makes the thief highlighting how none of it may have happened if the F-Pack

hadn't rented his whilst warehouse, basically, all of this happened because of the opportunity. Opportunity makes the thief, I've never even heard that max I like that. It does send a little bit like Like an excuse that doesn't really hold up. It's like well You've never went to that bank that day. You may not have held it up with a gun. So Anyway, we all would have done it. Yeah, we always have a hand. It's the bank's fault for existing. Yeah We always have our hands. It's the bank's fault for existing. Yeah. Judge Jacques went on to sentence,

Karon harshly, despite his guilty plea, calling him the instigator of the host and handing down a five-year prison term and a $1.2 million fine. On hearing his punishment, Karon exploded with anger, yelling that he had been misled by his lawyer into pleading guilty.

He swore at the judge, banged on a wall, and wrestled with a guard who tried to restrain him. Good, good. Yes. That's how you get him. That's how you do. I really like the image because it's just like he's like pleading guilty. He's been told by his lawyer if you plead guilty. You'll get him. He's like, yes, Sean, I'm guilty. I'm very sorry, you know, and I throw myself at the mercy of the court. Great Well, that's five years in prison and 1.2 million dollars charge you fucking what you dog Bang it on a wall

So please stop banging on the wall, please. They're so polite in Canada. Please sir Please, I was some great acting Matt. I believed that no, I was there. How's it? You're a method actor So that's it. That was some great acting, Matt. I believed that. No, I was there. I was in it. You're a method actor. So that's it. That's the story. It's still there. A lot of those guys are appealing. The ones that didn't call. They're very appealing.

Karon. Karon was like, that's really good stuff. Karon was like, he was like, I wouldn't have put guilty. I was misled. And he's like, give me a trial. I want this to go to trial and judge. It's like, no, it's was like, I wouldn't have put guilty. I was misled and he's like, give me a trial I want to I want this to go to trial and judge like nah, it's too late. And that's what I was like, Drunken Jesus.

Anyway, um, well, I think I just have they found the man that was holding them at gunpoint, forcing them over several months to steal nothing to tell us about, of, uh, not oil, but syrup. As far as I know, they haven't. But I think this is the kind of, this is a topic that is gonna be ongoing. every month to steal anything to tell us about not oil but syrup. As far as I know, they haven't. But I think this is the kind, this is a topic that is gonna be ongoing. I think it's actually, it's been the rights of the story

have been bought for a movie. Great, Nicholas Cage is set to cast. No, it's actually Jason Cigal. Liam Heddon's worth. Jason Cigal. Really? So which makes it sound like I'm a lot of James Segal. I love James Segal.

I love James Segal. Maybe I'll get a romantic angle in there. He's eager to see him. Which is interesting because he was off the Muppets and we talked about the Muppets last week. I love Jason Segal. I think I was imagining Jason Bateman this whole time. There you go. But yeah, so there it is. If you'd like to read out the description of the man with a gun, maybe we could circulate

that to our Canadian listeners and they can be on the lookout for him. But more importantly, what did he smell like? Yeah, it just, like, Africa. Ah. So it'd be on the lookout for a man with a gun that smells like Link's Africa, a place called the Canadian Mounties. So it's, it seemed like such a bizarre crime right and the way people were talking about it early before I found out how it all went down I'm like wow this is gonna be fascinating, but in the end it's really

More of a less of a story about of like an exotment or anything more about just like bad security and painstaking work Sucking out Security yeah, they just ended up with in some cameras and check them sporadically and they would have found out what was going on you know what I have really good security that right man sugar shag we got cc team yeah there's a man that does a man with a gun inside the shack telling people to fill battles for the oil syrup if you think you're loyal because that's actually a valuable liquid after I was I'm thinking of oil because that's actually a valuable liquid. After I was well into the research in the report,

I found out that it's actually not the only maple syrup ice that's ever happened over there. There's actually been a few different ones on. I'm hoping I picked the right one. This is the largest one, but there was another noteworthy one. Was it one in 1880, like I imagine? I imagine the early ones were 1880. There was one in 2006 where thieves took around $1.3 million of syrup from the stockpile

also, or one of the different stockpiles. So that was fun. That was in dispute, actually. So those five years early on, they still didn't put cameras up. But this was from, I think it was from a different source. But apparently according to Lieutenant Le Pauw, that investigation remains open. So that's a mystery, maybe a future mystery episode. No mystery to this one, unless those appeals are successful, there may be maybe that man with the gun thing is that definitely is a mystery if that's real

Yeah, but it feels like bullshit. I mean, you know I Like to believe in the man with the gun. I Day he knows where you live. I did find him guilty You guilty mate Stop banging please sir. Stop banging on the wall. I will not. Oh, that's the report. Thanks for having me. I'll see you later Bloody good stuff Canada. Great job, Maddie. Sorry about the hyper. Sorry. No, that's fine. Sorry. You've crashed a lot over there. Yeah What can you tell me what you took or not on air? We need to keep the airways clear and that sort of stuff. You would

mind. Roll your one inside. Yeah. Don't let me be alone. But I'm so lonely. Well we'd like to dedicate that episode to the entire country of Canada and also thank our Canadian listeners. But we also like to thank especially Megan who suggested this Thanks Megan or Megan. Do I say Megan in Canada? Oh, maybe the same Megan Megan Megan We also like to thank everyone that supports the show over at patreon patreon.com So let's do go on pod is where you get all your do go on extra needs By donating to our show you get bonus episodes Little newsletter from match and shoutout on the show, which

we would like to do now to thank a couple of people each. Do you want to kick us off, Bobba? Oh, I would love to, and I would like to thank someone that I feel like I've mentioned before, because I think they suggested a topic, because you don't forget a name, like Peabasta. Peabasta, that's a great name. It's honestly one of the names that's just... It's a name like P. Basta. P. Basta, that's a great name. It's honestly one of the names that's a- It's a P. Basta.

It just sticks in my head that name. Mr. Rovellova. From New York. New York. New York. I'm walking here. God, we're awful. Is that New York?

Yeah, but I was told over the weekend that that line was improvised. Wow, that's great. It's a great line. From Back to the Future 2? I'm walking it and the other person I would also like to think other than Peabaster. I would also really like to think from Corby in the UK Dean Buzzard. I, that's a great name. That's a great name. I was gonna say it turns like a top of a bit.

It sounds like a top of a bit, but it's just buzz. But a Dean Buzzard, it sounds like a specific top of it. Oh, like a species of a buzzard. Yeah, look at that Dean Buzzard. Yeah, that's cool. Ah, the African Dean Buzzard, very good. Thank you, Dean Buzzard. Thank you, Dean.

And thank you, Peabastar. Well, from a couple of great names to another couple of great names, if I will. I'd like to thank all the way from Nashville, Tennessee. Nashville. Nashville, Tennessee. Listen, Jessica, Frailin. Jessica is a fantastic name. It definitely is.

And so is Frailin or Frailin, if you would like to pronounce it that way, Jessica. Thank you so much for all your support over in Tennessee. Is that anywhere near Knoxville, Tennessee? Home of the Wigsphere on the Simpsons? The Sunsphere from the the world expo 1988, I believe, was the year Knoxville, Tennessee. And I'd also like to thank back home if I could, from Belmont in Western Australia, Annette McTagget. Thank you, Annette.

It is your time to shine on the airwaves here. Oh, so good. Belmont WA, we'd love to visit that. We'd love to do two more of Australia. Yeah, a few people have been asking about coming over to WA recently. I'd said to them that I'm going to be, I'm looking to go there back for a person, you guys should come to Fringe World. Possibly, yeah, so early next year, January February time, and maybe we'll see you there

in that meek tag. I'm not sure if Belmont is anywhere, is that, but WA is, it's honestly, Belmont time, yeah, WA tiny. Belmont small, I mean, it's only about the size of That's this Europe what's Europe? Spec a dust nothing a bed do I should I can't really speak a dust But you know sense like oh Spaker dust bell wants you son is a like just not just need the Perth Airport

It's a sub of Perth so I was trying to tell him a. There's a good guy, Starring Bell. And that, we'll see you there. We'll see you there. Yeah, Annette, that's great. Hey, Annette, you keep doing you. Yeah. Don't reckon just. I could not reckon harder. I'd love to, if you guys, if we got a moment,

I'd love to. No, we're done. You're out of time. You're out're done. You're out of time. You're out of touch. I'm out of time. Time. I'd love to thank a name that I'm not going to be able to pronounce. But you're going to give it a bloody red hook, though.

Let me have a crack. I'd really love to thank. And I was, I'm such a big fan of our patrons. Obviously helped the show kick on and keep being made and et cetera. Audrey Chamlowski. It could be, I want to see HMI ELEWSKR. Audrey Chamlowski. Audrey, I think you are very used to your surname being Ms. Prinams.

I'm sorry to have added to that. Kamal's, Kamal'ski. But, thank you. Sick name. Supporting the show. And then it's a great name. Beautiful first name to Audrey. Audrey, gorgeous. The gorgeous.

Big fan of the show. She is a little bit more secretive though. I have no idea where in the world she's from. Let's guess. Where do you reckon? Um... Cape Town. West Philadelphia.

I'm betting she's from Melbourne. She's got a? Um, Cape Town. West Philadelphia. I'm betting she's from Melbourne. She's got a real Melbourne vibe about it. Okay, I think she likes her Chilate and an vintage bookstore. Is that what we're about? That's what we're all about. That's what I'm about and I'm very Melbourne. Okay, myself so much.

Don't worry, the people out there do too And they'll let me know hey, you know it doesn't hurt you. Yeah, mr. P. Baster Mr. P. Baster I'd also love to think maybe maybe almost our most frequent Twitter Correspondent Kathy Grible Kathy from Maryville or as they say over in Maryville How do they print? It's different? You're thinking of Maryland Maryland. So Maryville might be how they say over in Maryville how do they print it's different? You're thinking of Maryland. Maryland. So Maryville might be how they say it. Or but if it's like Maryland it would be Mara- Maraville. I think it's Maraville.

That's Maryville. Maraville. Maraville. Thank you Kathy. The other day Kathy said I'm her spirit animal. But you know what Kathy, I'm a person. It's Kathy the one that we disappointed by saying that we don't watch game of Thrones. Yeah. Sorry, Kathy.

No, she wasn't disappointed. She was the opposite of disappointed. She said, thank God. Didn't she? Yeah. Oh, it should have stoked that we didn't. And I'm, thank you for, I mean, I'm happy to be a spirit animal, but I'm, I'm both a physical being and a human. So it's very difficult for me to do, but I will do it for you if that's what you need. That's what she needs, mate. Then that's, made oh bloody to it. That's what she's asking. I know I'm saying I'll do it for Kathy

Kathy with a K anyway Maryville which is in Tennessee as well Hey double Tennessee episode that is real cool I wonder if I was Jessica Frailin. I wonder if it's anywhere near the wig shop. No, it's top. Nox fill. Cool, thanks so much everyone for listening

and thanks for my report being so good again. I don't know if I know. I don't know, I don't know if I know how to do felt. No, it was fun. I felt so excited about the idea of it. I don't know if I fully gave it everything that deserved. Maddie, you did great. You did so well. Would you like to thank either of us for any particular... You are a bit typical of a... Typhoon behavior that has occurred throughout the show.

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