Two In The Think Tank - Do Go On Presents: Prime Mates (feat Matt Stewart and Dave Warneke!)

Episode Date: August 20, 2018

Here's another unscheduled episode of Do Go On Presents! This week we are presenting Matt's new podcast, Prime Mates - and an episode in particular featuring Dave Warneke, enjoy!You can find more of Prime Mates here:https://omny.fm/shows/prime-mateshttps://www.planetbroadcasting.com/our-shows/prime-mates/https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/prime-mates/id1410556976?mt=2twitter: https://twitter.com/PrimeMatesPodfacebook: https://www.facebook.com/PrimeMatesPodinstagram: https://www.instagram.com/primematespod/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey everybody, Jess and Dave, just jumping in really quickly at the top here to make sure that you are across all the details for our upcoming Christmas show. That's right, we are doing a live show in Melbourne Saturday December the 2nd, 2023, our final podcast of the year, our Christmas special. It's downstairs at Morris House, which usually be called the European beer cafe. On Saturday December the 2nd, 2023 at 4.30pm, come along, come one, come all, and get tickets at dogoonpod.com. Most weight loss programs are short-term fixes, but managing your weight needs a long-term solution,

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And it's not, it's not so much an excuse to pull it out. Yeah. You know, pull out the tuxedo. The tuxedo. Pull off. Thank God. It's a nice, I do not look under the table, Dave. You're pulling it out of the tuxedo. It's being another great episode to present.

And also the first one we're presenting of primates. Another podcast we record in the studio, often with YouTube, always with me. It's a podcast about primates and popular culture, sounds bloody stupid. And I know a bunch of you have already heard it and have been really nice about it, but I think maybe others of you haven't. So I thought why not just drop it right in to make it real easy. And this week's episode that I'm going to play for you is from a couple weeks ago with you and me Dave. I guess I had a great time

inviting me on to be one of your first guests on primates. Appreciate it, Matt. Appreciate it. I was, hey, the honor was all mine. You're helping me out. Jess has also been on an episode in the past, and she's on the upcoming episode this week, if you're interested.

And I have listened to the episode that we're about to. Like, I've listened to you boys, because I support you. Thank you. And let me just say, oh've listened to you boys, because I support you. Thank you. And let me just say, oh no, here we go, a bit of truth. That I thoroughly enjoyed it. Oh. And it was an absolute delight.

Any feedback? No. Great. I feel like we're having another quarrel here. I guess it probably makes more sense, just to play it for you, rather than explain it. No, I'll explain it. Okay, yeah, no.

I'd love to hear. How would you break it down as a show? Because people have said to me that they liked it once they gave it a try, but it took them a while because they were like, this doesn't sound like something that interests me. I just have to be able to go with the flow and be a bit whimsical and just have fun. Yeah, it's man. I mean, it's manly a fun time. which is fair enough. Which is fair enough. Which is fair enough. Which is fair enough. Which is fair enough. Which is fair enough. Which is fair enough.

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episodes featuring the Dr. Zeyer's episode where Tromaclua is in the planet of the apes musical and it is hilarious. So we'll play, we'll play a good chunk of this episode now and then we'll come back and have a quick chat to you after and if you want to find it, just search in your... Either you can look at the link below this in the description or just search PrimePriME space mates. It's a fun little thing there. If you say it quick, it sounds like Prime mates.

Wordplay. And may I just say the last word. Play the clip. Welcome to Primates, the podcast where we go through primates and popular culture from chimpan A all the way to chimpan Z. This week my primate, my very special guest, is Mr. Dave Warnicki. Welcome to the show Mr. Dave. Hello, thank you so much for having me as one of your primates. That's so nice to have you here. Of course some listeners may know that we do another podcast together. We have for about almost three years now called do go on

No, we needed another excuse to hang out together in the studio I'd recommend vast majority of time I hang out with you is with a mark in front of my face Yeah, definitely. It's a bit like um cardashans camera. It's always rolling. Yeah Uh, but in that show it's almost not not always rolling because I'm sure it's very descriptive. That's very, yeah. It has that vibe. The bit I saw of it about five years ago. What did it bring out that long? Oh, definitely. I think it's been going... There'll be cluster 10 years or something.

10 years. So basically, on that show, I get suspicious when someone's being filmed and then they make a call and then it cuts to their mum that they're ringing and then just happens to be her... Answering them. Like they have nine camera crews or average family members in case they answer a phone call. Any documentary where they'll have the camera, someone while we're gonna go see this,

if someone's at this house, they'll knock on the door and then they'll have the reverse shot of them opening the door from inside. They're like, well that's kind of ruined that illusion, hasn't it? It kind of happened. Idiots or you're treating us like idiots. Or they actually have several cameras.

Yeah, just a while. Maybe Kardashians could have such a wild budget that it's all go. No, imagine it's fake. Let's go with that. Let's go with that. We're talking about this week, obviously another classic primate episode

in the history of popular culture, which episode of your chosen here today? We have decided to go with my all-time favorite TV show, The Simpsons, and their episode from season 7, A Fish Called Selma, which, listen, as I remember, they are as big a Simpsons fans as us. The one where Troy McCluer is the main character in the episode and he marries Marge's sister, Selma Buvier, to try and aid his fledgling career because he's been shoved into obscurity because of

rumors about his sex life. Yes, that's right. And they never fully spell it out. No, he's something, it's aquarium related. Yeah, that's right. He's implying that he has sex with fish. It's a romantic, what does he say? It's not a...

A romantic abnormal thing. And it goes on the one-six anyway. He's about to bring it out. Which I was not reading about this episode. One of the things I read was, it's, you know, they have many pop culture references throughout the show. That is a reference to the rumors.

Have you ever had about Richard Gears rumor? No, oh yeah, juggling. Jume, I've never heard that before. Yeah. And then I was on snopes and snopes and debunked it. Yeah, that feels very debunkable. So basically, if you also are not familiar with it, Richard Gears, possibly, well, that was a rumor.

I say possibly, that was a rumor. He definitely didn't do this. Used to shove juggles, I'll be to ask her sexual pleasure. Yeah, that definitely went around at high school. Yeah, that's a rumor. Because this episode came out, the Simpsons, 96, so it would have been before this. Right, yeah. So it obviously lasted a while, because yeah, I reckon I would have heard about that a few years after this, so it persisted. But I don't think all that many school kids are talking

about Richard gear anymore. Imagine that. Whoa, who's Richard here? Okay, the German being fine, but who's Richard here? I want a pretty woman get into his car. This is in season seven, just before the famous sort of falling off a cliff of quality of the Simpsons went through. No, I really like it up until about season 10.

Right, okay. But I reckon eight. They say the first eight is like, amazing. Well, I reckon from two to eight. Two to eight, yeah, season one's finding its feet, but still some good stuff. And then two to eight is the golden age. It's so funny.

Cause we just rewatched that episode together. And how many jokes are there in there? It's rampacked. every little sign every little bit That's just something happening. Yeah, it was amazing. There's a lot of them. I didn't pick up It was handy to have you here annotating the episode Well, what do you find here is? It's pause for a moment and let me talk you through the scene It took us to was about four and a half hours to get through the episode. Yeah, it's amazing

I once thought about making a YouTube video where you explain every joke for the Simpsons. So every 10 seconds it cuts to me in the studio and I'm like, so what's happening? There'd be so many I missed. I reckon there's plenty of jokes on the Simpsons, especially when I was a kid, but even probably now where I'm laughing, I know why it probably is funny, but there'll be a little element of it that I'm having to fill in a blank because I don't get a reference or whatever. Sure, sure, Byron. I love as you get older and you expose to more stuff, you start getting more and more and more. Which is the beauty of the show because when I was seven years old, I was getting none of this. But I was still loving it. Yeah. Still

what I told you, it's a very funny show. So it works on many levels. We should get to the crux of why we're talking about this episode, though. Yes, it's probably. So this is the first episode where he's really playing a key role in a Simpson's episode. Yeah, I think before that he'd just been, hi, I'm trying to include it. You might remember when he found it, and like, you know, doing mainly sort of instructional videos. This is the first episode where he actually met the Simpson.

Before this, he'd only been seen or heard through other mediums, media. So we find that he was big in the 70s. He's falling out of favor and a lot to do with his shadowy private life. And that seems to be it. In this world, the gerbil style rumor is a lot more prevalent than that. Yeah, for sure.

I don't think it ruined Richard Gears career. Well, I never even heard of it. The kids in Melbourne were going, hey, you heard that guy from Mothman prophecies is putting things up his butt. Good on him. That was a consensus around our school year. Definitely, you're very out.

Gerbilian. Full thinking. Started a real craze around our school year. A gerbil raiser, raiser. And the teacher comes in, but Richard gear did it. All right. All right. Well, he is a big star. He's a hot throb.

So to accidentally somewhat, uh, he ends up meeting Selma Boofie, Marge's what sister. That's right. At the, uh, DMV, I think that's what they call them. Yeah, Department of Motor Vehicles. Yeah. And they end up going on a date because he owed her a favor. It was sort of seen that way.

A photo is taken and the media are loving it. They're like, wow, it's trying to cool with a human. Yeah, it's the three pepper altis that just happened to take photos of them. And now he's back in the limelight and he in his agent played by Jeff Goldblum in this episode. That was a cool. So he he found him this role in Planet of the Apes musical and which was called Dave. Stop the plan of the Apes I want to get off. Which is very very funny. Obviously, I don't have to tell you that. No, I're listening. I didn't know that. You're laughing hard right now. I didn't realize that that was a reference to this one of those things where I don't get

the reference when I read it. I go, oh, I'm very clever. A musical from the 60s called Stop the World. I want to get off, which is so bad. It's fun. I just forgot to call that fun. But yeah, so there's a few so Phil Hartman as Troy McCleur and Jeff Goldbloom is the agent. But you were telling me a fun fact just before that the episode initially ran quite long. Yeah. So initially the episode ran 28 minutes. She's I think something about like six minutes too long. Right. A lot, a lot long.

Yeah. Basically because Selma and Troyomaclua, the two man characters and they both have very slow speaking styles. So what they did was they realized that this was a problem. So they got Jeff Goldblum to re-voice his character because now I want to never hurt him talk before but making him speak a lot quicker. So the characters are the guys. People that hurt Jeff Goldblum. Yeah. Until this point, Jeff Goldblum had only played mums. Yeah. And he did it extremely well. Yeah. And yes, they got him to only played Moms. And he did it extremely well. Yeah.

And yes, they got him to re-voice it. And apparently they had to also cut a scene. Troy's Bachelor party. I want to have enjoyed that. Yeah. Is that, I hope that exists somewhere. Yeah, I suppose. And that probably does on a DVD extra or something.

Never come across it, but. Anyway, maybe we'll, let's hear a little bit of the, uh, the Planet of the Irish musical now. Sorry, Troy McClure, as the human... Role, he was born to play! Help the humans about to escape. Get your paws off me, you dirty ape! Ah, he can talk!

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Dr. Z is Dr. Z is And I play the piano anymore Of course you can Well, I couldn't be far I can say sing along with that basically Yeah, without having seen it for quite a while. You can still remember the tune. I think it is definitely the best ever song on the Simpsons.

Then there are some good ones. There are plenty of good ones. Monorail, one of my favorites. Obviously classic one there. I was reading a little bit about on this, there's a article on Vulture talking about the background of this episode. That's an interview and there's a home. Sorryulture talking about the background of this episode. That's an interview and there's, um...

Sorry, I'm opening a drink bottle here, that's a bit of a squeak. A primate, if you will. Primate squeak, you know, like classic primate squeak. Oh, I've forgotten. We always start the episode. I may be ever remembered it at this one time. With the question, Dave, what is your favourite primate? Either specifically or species-wise.

Well, actually, my favorite is one I didn't even realize was a primate. I've gone with the lemur. Oh, the lemur. Did you know the lemur was a primate, would you say? I'm a casual expert. Okay, and recent times, since I loved the movie rather than the planet of the apes.

Is it lemurs in there? There are no lemus in that, but that is when I really started to shallow dive into the world of primates. You belly flops the whole way. Yeah, big time. Lot of surface area, very red belly, but bloody hell I got.

What was that? I got monkey and ape knowledge coming out my paws. Which is, I think you might find some of those primates have in place of hands. Oh. Might be a different, I might be confusing two kinds of pause there. Yes, it's definitely, punty me, definitely a homophone. A homophone, thank you. Yes, but I know, I love a lemur, found only in Madagascar.

Ah, did they feature in the film? Madagascar? I'm sure this one surely. did they feature in the film? Madagascar? I'm sure there's one. Surely. I haven't seen the film. I actually saw Madagascar at the movies, I think. You paid $20 plus for that? I don't know.

The movies cost that much back then. Yeah, fair enough. Because I have this early memory of Lemurs. When I went to the zoo, I was in early primary school. The zookeeper told us, so you couldn't get that close to the lemurs because they were on like an island at this zoo because they were so good at escaping. They had to put them on this lemur island because they're afraid of water. So that kept them in. So that's kind of a sad fact looking back because they're so surrounded by water, but I

thought it was quite good. They were, you know, if you remember the movie, Madagascar just looked it up. That whole, there's a kingdom there. That was Lemus, including one played, the king played by Sasha Baron Cohen. His advisor played by Cedric the Entertainer. Andy Richter was a lemur. That's an old star cast of Lemus. He was looking at Anarcho with a photo of David Schwimmer. Who was he? David Schwimmer played a sad animal

Seriously I assume yeah, I mean it was David. I was played he played the David Schwimmer version of it I see the Rezebra or a no he was Melman the giraffe Who was a hopper-conductor off Melman very? David Schwimmer very a swim the shit out of it. He's not afraid of swimming. He shwims right to the bottom of the ape pool. I don't mind. Once the second time I already had a friend's episode

with our Elcid Trombaille virtual came on and we talked about the episode where Ross got a monkey. Oh, ow. Yeah. Is it called Marcel? Was it problematic that episode? I know a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of Oh, wow. Yeah, is it called Marcel? Is it was it problematic that episode? I know a lot of a lot of No, I know I was yeah, that has become that's something that has been started to be talked about a lot lately is friends as an age

Super well, but that episode I don't think had too many problematic things and I was an early one too A season one so yeah, I was bracing for it. I was ready to go the I was but I have been reading this uh this article on Vulture it's an interview with some of the key players in this episode and I thought maybe I'll read a few little quotes out here for you Dave. Oh please. Um so Bill Oakley who took over as showrunner for season seven and eight and this episode is from season seven.

I found this really cool. He was saying that pretty before Star Wars Planet of the Apes when he was a kid that was that was the big star wall that was the big sci-fi move that kids loved until Star Wars came all obviously and then eventually Planet of the Apes started to have this sort of a bit of a kitschy sort of vibe about it. People would look back with some nostalgia but it would would normally be a bit of a jockey sort of thing obviously now very legit with the rise of the planet of the apes, dawn of the planet apes

and wall for the planet of the apes. Sure, sure, have you seen the original one? I have seen it or saw it back in high school, but that's got to come up in an episode soon. Sure, I think it's the only one I've seen of any planet of the apes. Well, you gotta watch that new trilogy, the reboot trilogy is very good.

I saw the Tim Burton one as well, back in the day, and I don't remember because I was quite young when I saw it, I didn't realize how silly it was, but at the end, apparently there was pressure, but we'll probably do it at some point and talk about it more, but apparently there was pressure for there to be a big twist like in the initial one, a big reveal at the end. All right, okay, sure.

And their big reveal was that when he went back to Earth or something like that, it was a planet of the apes. Only it had like a sort of splice history with our history of the world. So there was like a monkey, Abraham Lincoln statue is what he saw. It's like, what? You know, the big, you're sitting in the sitting in that big concrete chair. Yeah, only it was him only. He looked almost exactly the same only. He was some sort of a primate. And that was the twist. That was the big twist then. And it, that

was you. That movie it did not, it was not well loved. No, I honestly, when you told me that you loved the new planet of the age films, I think my gauge of them was that film, which I hadn't even seen, but I remember that being like laughed at. And then when you started loving it, I was like, that's loving this. Yeah, right. Well, the first, the initial series spawns so many sequels and prequels and spin-offs and all that sort of stuff. And then this new series has as well, but that one is on a little island by itself.

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in months, not years. Take classes online or on campus, and financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. I show up. The Tim Burton one. It's a lemma. Yeah, it's a little lemma. That's the top of the island. Played by a session, Shashtosh,

I bear with Colin. So I was interested in saying that, so people did love it. And he said, at the time before the Tim Burton remake and the pre-calls had had this camp classic status, all the lines like, take your stinking paws of me, you damn dirty ape, which they reason in the musical version.

So he says that they occupied a rare place in pop culture, which I love that right. But I love this even more. Josh Weinstein, who's a writer and produced The Simpsons at this time, he was also a coach, uh, showrunner. This is what he said. He said, I'll tell you something, I didn't see Planet of the Apes until like five years ago. And this is an recent interview. So

he's, he hadn't seen Planet of the Apes and he's showrunning this episode that is doing one of the most famous parody or spoof or whatever you'd call this. You think you'd get him a copy of the film? Yeah, you'd get a full night and be like, all right, I'm gonna get a copy of the film, get the reference. And then tomorrow when we come to the meeting,

I'll know what everyone's joking about. I guess what do you got to remember is that this was a different time. This was in the 90s. This was a pre-9-11 world. Right. You couldn't just download this movie. No. I don't know what 9-11 has to do with that technology. But back then that didn't exist. So just remember that. Okay, I remember that and I would draw what I was saying.

Please. Do you think this guy could have just... Your picture in him sitting on his laptop at night gone, wish there was something to watch. It wasn't like that. He would have had to have driven past a video store on the way home. Exactly. Hope they had a copy. He was basically making bread after work to try and feed himself. Exactly. It was a different time. I'm sure this showrunner was a peasant of Hollywood. He said, I only knew the whole thing from the parody in Mad Magazine.

So he's sort of... He's picking it up from references and other things. But yeah, when he, when he wrote it, he hadn't seen it. Which is so good because he just knew the ending. Just for me, the Simpsons is that. There's so many pop culture things that I've never seen, and I kind of get the gist of them because of the Simpsons referencing them. Yes. I love it. Any examples? Oh, I'm trying to think of, oh, I've never seen the Kubrick film 2001 a space odyssey. Yes, but they referenced that a lot many many episodes anytime

this sort of any sci-fi sort of elements going on is a reference there. They're obviously big fans. Yeah, and it's very influential film and I'm a bit ashamed to say I haven't seen it. But maybe I don't have to because the Simpsons already covered it. I'm pretty sure the Planet of the Ops, this Planet of the Ops is the first Planet of the Ops that I'd seen as well. Yeah, I definitely would have seen this before I saw the... But interestingly, this wasn't the first Planet of the Ops reference on the Simpsons there had been many before and there have been a few Simps as well. Like in season five, a couple of different episodes had one, in episode number 85 called Rosebud, at the end of the episode Mr. Burns. That's one of these, he's bear, bobo. Yes, that's right. And in the end, he's shown in a futuristic setting where apes control

the world and have enslaved human beings among them, clones of home. This is from the Simpsons Wiki, of the AIDS page. How's that going? I've said 96 during a NASA pre-mission press conference. I'm just says he hopes they won't send him. So that dreaded planet of the AIDS. Then he realizes the plot twists somehow, as he's saying, and I think.

Wait a minute, statue of liberty. That was our planet. you blew it up. I'm gonna have to say this press conference is over So you're really nice. He's just slamming your spurs in front of all these Wait a minute statue liberty that was our planet There was a there was an itchy and scratchy episode in season six called planet of the aches Scratch episode in season six called Planet of the Akes. Oh, that's good. It's good fun.

And it was sort of a mini parody of Planet of the Apes. Well, I was set from Bart of Darkness. That's one of my all-time favorites. Yeah, that's Bart of Darkness. Pretty Breaks whose leg. Yes, the Jimmy Stewart. Yeah, we're really window one. Yeah, man, they, I like these are all,

every episode is just like plowed with references. Like the one we're talking about now it begins with a Muppets. Yeah, that's right. Tromacle is like in a Muppets movie sort of getting on with Miss Piggy and then he has to fight Kermit. They ask what a Muppet is. It's like a mix between a Muppet. It's not quite a Muppet. It's not quite a mop. It's not quite a pop it. And so you question, I don't know. Anyway, so there's heaps, there's heaps of these up until

season 29, which I don't know this one. Definitely would not have seen that. Restroom of the Apes is a reference to Planet of the Apes. Oh, interesting. What's one just above this? Simpsons of Fire Apes. So season 12. One of the pictures in Joan Bushwell's serious research books is from Planet of the Eighth. Oh, that's right. That's when Monkey Diamond mine, that they discover, and it's like a parody of Diane Fossy in that other monkey expert.

Do you know the other monkey expert? It's very, very famous, I can't remember. From life. From real life, yeah. So there's, I know the gorilla one from like, gorillas in the mist, what's, is that who you're with? Yeah, that's Diane Fossy. But there's another one.

That's Fossy, really. There's another one who's still alive. Um, and anyway, they discover that she's just gone crazy and she's been using the monkeys, so, um, Diana. And he's Diane Fossy. Who am I? I'm thinking to the other one as well. Jane Goodall.

Jane Goodall, that's right. There's a parody of her, that's right. There's a parody of her. That's right. And they go through her journal and she's just got pictures of monkeys from pop culture. That's all a research, is everything. That's very good. Anyway, back to the plan of the Apes of Musical.

Well, this is something I found really fascinating as well from this same culture interview. And I'll be interested to know if you heard this. So Oakley's taken over show running Simpsons this in this season, season 70. This is what he said. Our goal when we took over was to copy season three. Season three of the Simpsons,

which we didn't work on, by the way, was the best season of any TV show of all time. Wow. When we took over, we said, what was it about season three that made it so good? We reverse engineered it and said, well, a lot of these stories were pretty grounded, but they took a couple of crazy leaps out in a space with like, home of the bat. They did seven home episodes, three leaps of episodes, a sideshow Bob and itchy and scratchy,

so we did exactly the same thing. Now as far as the Selmer episode, there was an episode in season 3 where she was going to marry sideshow Bob. That was a good episode. So that's really cool. I didn't know that. So they just watched earlier episode, even the structure. Yes.

Which is like that couldn't, like, they've taken things even that surely were not part of the reason. The reason that season was so great wasn't because there was exactly seven home episodes. Yeah, actually they didn't sit down and be like, all right, we're going to have seven home episodes. One about Lisa, two about Marge, five parts, like that. They probably would have been like, who's got a good idea? Yeah. Okay, this one centers around Homer. That's essentially funny. Let's do that. But I think it's fun. I mean, especially seeing as it was another really good season.

Yeah. Season seven. So should they do that again? Is that what you're saying? So they go back to the seven, seven homers, one, such a ball. Take the wrong lessons out of history, historical successes. That's what I always say. Okay. I've always said that. You know, like when the Allies won World War Two, I was like, that's why I'm always wearing Army Green, baby. Winners wear green. There must be some correlation here. And this is another thing that I was saying, so Weinstein, the co-runner, saying how everyone at the time, I love Phil Harman, obviously.

He passed away quite a few years ago now, and they still do love him. I'm not saying they don't love him now, but he's done. Yeah, for sure, for sure. And his other character, Lionel Hutz, is my favorite of all times. So good. So funny. What color tie am I wearing? You'll be very surprised. I watched that very recently.

It's so, so good. But he was saying, so they were just trying to figure out a way to get him in, though, Sanny. So funny, so kind, so charming. They want to do more with him. He was only ever doing these little cameos with the Troy McClure character. You know, you might like on these educational videos and that sort of stuff. And then I like, how do we, how do we do this? So they said, and this is him quoting, this is our

Troy McCluer episode. And he said, he'd never actually met the Simpson's at the point, which is what I said. And he goes, that's why we gave him the chemosphere house, which is based on a real house. Yeah, for sure. It's like a modern house. Right. Like a futuristic, but like now very dated house. And so in the logic behind that was to go, the reason he's never come into contact with him is because he's sort of in the Hollywood section of Springfield. Shrazing, Hollywood Hills.

But yeah, I love that line. Someone went into that house. He's like, wow, it's like the future, the very near future. You were saying before we started recording, Dave, you're trying to find, track down more info about the writer of this episode? Yeah, for sure. So I didn't realize this, but I knew I was gonna talk about the show, so I looked it up and the writer. So I think the way this seems instruction,

most episodes would have like a main writer and then they take the episode in and then the team of writers would be like, oh you could put in this great reference here because you know they obviously with this roller dex of amazing pop culture references. They must have seen everything up until the you know this mid 90s point. And there's often writers you you recognize them, like, Bill O'Klein, Josh Weinstein, the showrunners of the show had previously written episodes, so I recognize their names when they come up. But this one, Jack Bath, hadn't recognized it. He didn't even have an entry on Wikipedia, which I thought was quite surprising.

Yeah, for a rider of an iconic Simpson's. Yeah. What do we, we saw that some entertainment weekly put us the eighth best episode ever. Yes. So it's obviously a pretty iconic episode. Then I looked them up. This was the own on IMDB, the only episode he ever wrote. So he wrote one and he hasn't done that much else since.

A little bit of producing on a couple of shows I hadn't heard of. And the odd thing here and there. But imagine that writing such a classic episode. Well, Weinstein explains a little bit how this came about in this interview on Valtteri. Says, there's a rule, I don't know if this is like a a writing association of America, whatever the guild, the writer's guild rule or what,

but he said, there's a rule that you give two episodes every season to outside freelancers. Jack Barth, who was credited as the writer's guild rule or what, but he said, there's a rule that you give two episodes every season to outside three Lancers. Jack Barth, who was credited as the writer, is an excellent writer and he's one of our friends, but it's tricky. You have to get them up to speed and there's always a day where you walk them through everything going on in the show at that point. Oh, for sure, because everyone else is living in that season. So they're like, what do you mean, crusty died at two episodes ago, but it turned out effect his own death.

But I want to write an episode about crusty. That would be super weird. Exactly. And I don't think they worry about those rules as much anymore. Yeah, yeah. Anything goes now. But he said, but then it's like he's a regular rider

and you pitch out the story together, then they ride the draft. So they have to bring him in and educate them first. And it's interesting that it is a rule. I wonder why that would come. Why they brought the two? It would make, there'd be some reason for that. And if it is a writer's guild thing, maybe it is something like to make sure people are getting opportunities or... Yeah, maybe.

I'm not sure. But interestingly, they said the musical wasn't even in the first draft. The iconic... Oh, right. The bit we all remember for that episode. They needed a reason for Troy to have a big comeback, but they weren't sure what it was gonna be. I think it will be a movie or a TV show or whatever. And then apparently, they once they think Steve Tompkins,

who was the supervising producer, had the original concept of planning the eight-s of the musical. And then, I hope they love this, because normally when people are writing history, it's all like, yeah, I think I was a part of that conversation and stuff like people Even will believe that they put themselves in it, but Oakley says, I was out of the room and I came back and the whole thing had been written I can recall a rare sense of electricity. I wasn't gone for more than a few hours. I was in editing on another episode

And when I came back, this whole thing had been concocted and there was a whole room filled with breathless riders going you gotta hear this you gotta hear this people don't usually do that because there are so many great little tidbits that everyone was quoting are a cool being bombarded with enthusiastic pictures that were all hilarious I didn't have to prove anything was already in the script thanks to Josh I was like this great and I should be out of the room far more often

one I think maybe the most iconic thing about the musical itself is probably the Dr. Zayus to the tune of Rock Me Armour Dias. By Falco. Do you know anything about Falco? I know the name and that's about it. So I know that he's Austrian. He was Austrian. So I knew a little bit about him.

Once I used to do, I still do my blind dating show at the comedy festival, and I get people to pick their guilty pleasure song to play. So what it is, it's three comedians blindly dating through a curtain, a single person from the audience. And I get the three comedians to play their guilty pleasure song to see who, who they're most on the same wavelength. That's the contestant from the audience.

And they pick their favorite song. And Cam Knights, great Sydney standout comedian, brought in Falco, Rock Me on the Dose. And ever since then, it's been on my Spotify playlists. So I knew a bit about it from there because I got into a wiki hole when he submitted that a couple of years ago. But it says here, if wiki used to be believed,

he is the best selling Austrian singer of all time. Wow. Yes, all 20 million albums and 40 million singles And I remember this part he done 20 million albums albums. I know that would be it. That's up there with some big time artists So what a pretty pretty amazing he had a lot of success especially in Europe. Brock Mjöberdorf was his big big song Around the world and then you sort of dropped off into obscurity a bit and he was apparently planning a comeback when at the age of 40 he was in the Dominican Republic driving around and his Mitsubishi Ypagiara collided with a bus and He died he'd been an assist here. He was under the influence of alcohol on cocaine. Oh, no, so I think he had a pretty wild life

I think he how it was 40. I think I'm a day. I'm self-died in about I think he had a pretty wild life. I think he, um... How it was 40, I think, Armadais himself died in about, I think it was about 35. Really? Yeah. Pretty sure he died, yeah, mid 30s. That is depressing for how much he achieved in his life. Let's look him up. Wolfgang Armadais.

35, congratulations on knowing that. Yeah, which is wild, right? That is, it's only two years older than Jesus. I mean, Jesus has got a lot done then as well. But yeah, 35, it's funny that 35 is super young, but it's, and then you think, well, the 27 club, holy shit. Yeah, the stuff they achieved was amazing. I think Mozart did, he was a real young prodigy. Oh, I think you're a prodigy, yeah, probably.

Yeah, proper music, you know, concertos and stuff by the age of five or something, which is just outrageous. And here's the kind of person that could hear like a whole opera and then write it here at once and then write out what he'd heard. Which is just annoying, too much talent. Yes. Just like us. I feel I see so much of us in them. Yes. I feel more in Falco than in Wolfgang, but there you go. Yeah, no offense. No offense Falco. Oh, Falco than in Wolfgang, but there you go. Yeah, no offense. No offense. No offense. Falco. Oh, Falco, okay. Sorry.

No offense modes up, but yeah, I know you probably want us to see us in you. I know, but we've gone with the Austria's best selling singer of all time. So this is more of an example of what I was saying about what Oakley didn't do. One scene does it a little bit differently. He goes between the three of us, he's talking about him, Paul Sims and Bill Oakley. He goes, the three of us were constantly saying things like, thank you, Armadayas. After we came up with the idea of

fun to the age of musical, I said randomly, thank you, Dr. Zayas. Maybe somebody else may have said it. So I don't want a full, painful credit for it. But somebody said it, like the Rock Me Almanadea song, and then it clicked in and people started pitching lyrics. I think he probably realized how far Sui is like, did I say it? Did I? Someone said it? Or he's going to call me after this. Yeah, it's either that or half of Sui is like, I'm like, you're recording this for something,

aren't you? Yeah, totally. I'm not just impressing someone at a bar. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so I said... The other people in the room that day may read this. Yeah, but I think that a colon, David X colon. Who's the co-creator of Futurama? Yes, which is, I think I like even more than the Simpsons. Really?

I think so, yes. So, one of the classic lines which are using the intro to this show, chimpanzee to chimpanzee, well, I don't know, even though they say it a bit wrong in America. Yes. So, one of the classic lines which are using the intro to this show, Champagne de Champagne, or even though they say it a bit wrong in America. So, there's one scene he goes, I know David Cohen, David X Cohen, had one of the best Simpson's lines ever went, which is, I hate every A by C from Champagne de Champagne.

I hate every A by C from chimpanzee I think I was going through the different types of apes in my mind trying to think of a funny rhyming lyric Probably I gave up on orangutan and moved on. I certainly did not pitch it thinking it was a high point in the development of the human or Ape culture. My recollection is I thought it was pretty good and had a decent chance of going to the script But it wasn't a sure thing. Really? Yeah, it feels like the kind of line way to be like, that's it. That's it. That's it. That is sick. Like there's not many places like you could say that it's funny how you can build a context where a joke like that is brilliant. But if you said that you know like as equipped somewhere it's still like fun and clever, but it's quite lame.

But because it's in this world where it is. It's a musical. It's a parody. It's a musical, yeah. It's like so good. Champagne, a Champagne. I love it so much. Can I just be the first to start the slow clap?

Get in a bit quicker. Showing out appreciation for primates. Boy, that was such a good time. Jesus, great just sitting in here, Dave and I, just mumbling out words. Yeah, I remember the script that we wrote together and then record it. Jesus, it took us years to get that script approved by the big wigs up at the podcast head office in Tinseltown, Dandy Noong. And with podcasting, Tinseltown, as I just said.

But yeah, if you want to hear the rest of that episode, check out Primates. Please subscribe on your podcast app. It's a lot of fun and we've got to keep some more great episodes coming out and already a bunch of real fun episodes have been out. Let us know what you think. And yeah, just, hey, look, I just want to say, keep doing you. That's nice. Yeah. Thanks, Matt. Guys, go out there support Matt. He's supporting the show. He's got a new adventure. Let's get behind him, hey Jess, what do you say? I want, because then he'll leave us. I know, all right, make him successful, but not too successful.

I look, there's a guarantee I will never leave. Do you go on my first love? Boycott the podcast is what I say. What does that mean Jess? Nothing. Stop using your fancy legal terms. Your legal legal? Flap in your wings a bit.

With you. Oh, hellolapping your wings a bit with you. Oh, hello, I'm a liar. That's me. Your impressions are getting very good. I mean, they've gone from great to even better. That's what you're trying to say. That's how I want you to start, great. But that's my plot.

You did it. We'll catch you in the next couple of days within an episode of the classic version of Doo Go On. Doo Go On Presents, Doo Go On. The actual shot. Thanks so much for tuning in and yeah we'll talk to you again very soon. Later. Bye. So different buy on the one presents. No, I'm trying to get a lot of word again. They've just let it happen. Oh my god, Matt. Good bye!

Don't you look like you're going to be a little bit more... Oh my god, what is wrong with you in it? I'm really sorry, I ruined it. Yeah, Oh my god. What is wrong with you? I'm really sorry. I ruined it. Yeah, thanks. I won't talk again. Okay. Let's just have a little more. Sorry, just go ahead. I'm leaving. Okay.

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