Two In The Think Tank - Nancy Wake - Do Go On Mini

Episode Date: June 4, 2020

This is the podcast version of episode two of our new web series that we made with Stupid Old Studios. You can watch the video of the episode complete with animations, props and lots and lots of regre...t face right now on The Stupid Old Channel YouTube page (link below). This episode we ask the question: how did a nurse from Australia wind up at the top of the Gestapo’s most wanted list? It’s a tale of espionage, danger and a whole lot of sass! Join Jess, Matt and Dave for the story of World War 2 badass Nancy, "The White Mouse" Wake.Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KlRyJ9QS9oSubscribe for more episodes.Our website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 or on campus, and financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. Hi everyone, it's Jess here, and I'm just dropping into your feed for an extra time this week, because you may be aware that we have recently released the first couple of episodes of a brand new web series. And first of all, shout out to Supermod Studios, who are in a massive
Starting point is 00:02:25 hellbent making it look and sound good and we just sort of turned up in red-hour reports. So yeah, there's a couple of episodes already, there's nine in total, so we've got seven more to go and they've been really really fun so far, people seem to be really enjoying them. So if you haven't seen them yet, head over to Stupid Old channel on YouTube and give them a watch. But in the meantime, if that's not enough to entice you, what we've got here for you is the audio of our last web series episode, where I did a report on the amazing World War II badass Nancy Wake. She's got an amazing life. Her story is incredible. So I hope
Starting point is 00:03:06 you enjoy. If you do like listening to it and you want to see what our facial expressions are like while we're telling these jokes or you want to see some animations or some visuals, you can head over to Stupid Odd Channel on YouTube and subscribe. You'll be able to check out all the videos as they come out over the next few weeks. But for now, just sit back, relax, and listen to the amazing story of Nancy Wake. This episode, we ask the question, how did a nurse from Australia wind up at the top of the Gestapo's most wanted list? It's a story of espionage, danger, and a whole lot of sass. I'm going to tell you all about World War II badass,
Starting point is 00:03:46 Nancy Wake. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Hello and welcome. My name's Jess Berkins. I'm here with Dave Warnocky and Matt Stewart. And I'm not normally given the responsibility of introing things and I think I did a pretty good job. I reckon though that was near perfection. Yeah. How could I have done better? There's always a reproofment. I reckon though that was near perfection. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:05 How could I have done better? There's always a re-improvement. Okay. But you don't have any specific... Oh, and I'm terrible at feedback. Terrible at taking it, terrible at giving it. I hate criticism. Please do not comment about my appearance. I would have just added a bit more of your own personality into it.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Okay. Do you want to have another go, but just have fun with it? Yeah. Let's go for one more. This one's just for safety. Okay. You're remembering that you nailed it. But just something a bit fun. Yeah, we've already got it. Yeah, let's go for one more. This one's just for safety. Yeah, okay, you remember that you nailed it But just something a bit fun. Yeah, we've already got it Why not let's just go for a big one. Yeah, all right. Let's do what I go big. Yeah, just a bit of space. Madden you're a polar bear Just go for it cold you're big and furry Oh
Starting point is 00:04:44 Fish Oh, I'm a real killer man of water. Ah, fish! Yeah. Love it. I mean, you didn't hit the script points, but still, I reckon it's worth keeping. Yeah. I reckon we'll use that option. Yep. Okay. Well, I'm going to tell you all about Nancy Wake.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Have I ever heard about Nancy Wake? I feel like I know that she might be Australian, but that is about it. Okay. Matt, anything to add? Well, I recently learnt that she might be Australian. Interesting points for a... Ah, either of us correct? Well, Nancy Wake was born in Wellington, New Zealand, in 1912, and moved to Australia when she was about two. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:05:24 We've finally claimed that. and we do that in Australia. Lots of growth. Far lab. Lamington. Lamington's. Have loavers. Just in the raw dirt. She's running out.
Starting point is 00:05:34 She's running out. She's an air prime minister. Have fantastic prime minister. We love her. Don't. She's so good. She had a girl. She got a girl. These are references that will play well internationally. And long term.
Starting point is 00:05:43 these are references that will play well internationally. And long term. She was the youngest of six children, which is on the cusp of too many. Six, it's a good amount, back in those days. Yeah, six is about 1912. Not until a good amount of children could have. That's conservative, I think. Not until a fantastic year.
Starting point is 00:05:59 A fantastic year, one of the best. At the age of four, her father and the family went back to New Zealand, leaving Nancy's mother to raise the children alone. I just like to say we are not claiming this. He's a key way. He's not a strident. He's a New Zealander no doubt about it. Yeah, go back because you're not welcome here with the Australian Nancy Drew or whatever her name was. Wank. Wank.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Wank. I think you're wank. You're talking to me. You're new. A clear instruction, isn't that? Oh, I've constructed it. Oh my God, come on. You need a blaster steam. Pressing that mind up. All right, well, can we cut?
Starting point is 00:06:33 No, no. We'll just go on without you. What are you gonna take three, four seconds? Ha ha ha. Lucky I've got this year, I'll be poured here. What's the pictures of, ankles? Well, no, it's all pros. The lady doth protested her pants off.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Oh, wow. That'll do. I don't think we can... Didn't even need to get the hands of gold. I think we have to beep that out. Yeah, this time slot. Wow. Yeah. But I assume you're watching this six p.m.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Well, six p.m. still too early. Yeah, six p.m. somewhere. So her dad leaves, goes back to New Zealand, Six p.m. Well, six p.m. Still too early. Yeah, six p.m. somewhere. So her dad leaves, goes back to New Zealand, leaves the mum to raise the kids alone. And some say that this event is believes to have sparked her rebellious and fearsome nature. I like how well you've committed to this.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Some say that she may be a... They believe. Believe. That allegedly. And I've heard she might be Australian. Shut up, I'm doing my best. They believe that allegedly. And I've heard she might be Australian. Shut up, I'm doing my best. At 16, she ran away from home initially working as a nurse before using 200 pounds that she'd
Starting point is 00:07:35 inherited from an aunt to go traveling. And she traveled first to New York and then to London. She's sick. She left. So when she gets to London, she studies journalism and she gained work for the Hearst group of newspapers and then she moved to Paris and she married a wealth. She married a wealth. Wow. Just a big pile of money. She fashioned it into a man. Put a little mustache on. I love you, Terence.
Starting point is 00:08:06 No. She made a wealthy French industrialist. Oh, Terence? Called Henri. Henri Fiyoka. Oh, I beg your pardon. Fiyoka. Fiyoka.
Starting point is 00:08:19 How's that? How would you say it in Australian? Fiyoka! Oh, yeah. Why, how would you say it? That? Fyocca! Oh, yeah. Well, how would you say it? I felt like fuck it, I mean. I think I married in 1939 when she was 27 years old. And six months later, the newlyweds were living in Marseille when Germany invaded France.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Nancy drove ambulances during the war in France, and after the French surrendered to Germany, Nancy and Henri joined the resistance, assisting in the escape of Allied servicemen and Jewish refugees from France into neutral Spain. So they did this as part of the escape network called the Pat O'Leary line and more than a hundred volunteers, people like Nancy were captured and killed. But not our girl Nancy. Oh, thank goodness. People like her, but not her. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah. But not her. I'm a stress that. The story ends here. Thanks for joining us again on the show we are doing now. Back to you in the studio. And I think you're in the studio. Okay, cool. Right, okay. So the studio and okay? Cool, right, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:26 So the studio and the correspondent are actually only a few feet away from each other. Back to you. So Nancy started to get a bit of a reputation. The Gestapo called her the White Mouse. How was that? She just always managed to allude being captured. Like a mouse. Like a mouse. You ever tried to catch a mouse? Not a White Mouse. Oh, because she just always managed to allude and captured. They'd be like, oh, come out. Like a mouse.
Starting point is 00:09:46 You ever tried to catch a mouse? Not a white mouse. No. OK. Nancy Drew, she's my white mouse. What's this character you're doing? I love it. I just want more of a back to you.
Starting point is 00:10:00 OK, back to me. So they wanted to capture it so badly that the Gestapo were tapping a telephone and intercepting a mail. They just couldn't capture it. Apparently you wish you lived to get a mail. We've got your address. We've got your phone. We know roughly where you'd be. We just, to the time. Can't get it. We know what kind of cheese you like. Yeah. We've sent them all over the traps. You see the cheese. So the resistance knowing that the Gestapo wanted us so badly, they exercised extreme caution with her missions because her life was in constant danger, not the she cared.
Starting point is 00:10:35 She said, I don't see why we women should just weigh our men a proud goodbye and then knit them balaclavas. She was like, get me in there. Honestly, yeah, I don't see a reason why they would do that either. Surely there's other things you could do. Knitting Bella Clover's, was that such a dumb thing that it became a cliche? Or a wavenour man, good bye, and knit knifed Bella Clover's. People need Bella Clover's map.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I hadn't thought of it like that. But maybe like the, didn't the women that stayed home, they like, knitted shit to send to the soldiers and stuff? Yeah, I'm editing it, opening a package. And have a fucking balaclarva. Come on, I need gloves! I've got eight balaclarva! I'm moved from the net down!
Starting point is 00:11:14 It's cold over here. But my head is so warm. Face is so warm. My face feels so good. Not my eyes or mouth. They're cold. So I think another thing they used to do would be to knit white ribbons and put them on cowards.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Yeah, do they get them? I don't think you need a ribbon. I think it was white feathers too actually. They knitted white feathers. Yes. I'm sorry. Yep. It wasn't cowards, it was cows.
Starting point is 00:11:39 They made feather jackets for cows in winter. Fether boars. Fether boars, they were fancy cows. So then things started to get a bit more dangerous and the escape network had been compromised by spies a couple of times. So fearing being captured, Nancy fled France and her husband Henri stayed behind.
Starting point is 00:11:58 So in the process of getting out of France, she was actually arrested, along with a trainload of people who'd also been trying to flee. And the head of the Pat O'Leary line, that escape network, it was a guy called Albert Gressy, probably the bad rock. I was sure he was going to be named Pat O'Leary. No. Don't you know who Pat O'Leary is?
Starting point is 00:12:15 We never know. Ah. Or I didn't find out. Anyway. So Albert, he managed to have her released by saying that she was his mistress. Did he say that for everyone on the train? I'm a very horny man. These are all my mistress'es. So he was like, she's trying for her husband not to find out. She's my mistress, let's just. And they believed him. And so she was released.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Wait, who was that man? Who's Albert? They believed him and so she was released. Wait, who was that man? Who's Albert? The head of the Patoleri line. And what is that man? The head of the escape network. Okay, so he's the head of the escape network. Yes. Who's capturing her and then letting her go?
Starting point is 00:12:55 The Germans? Yeah, the people that they were. Why is the head of the escape network got any sway in that combo? That's a great point. Or is he like undercover as a German guy? I don't know. They probably just thought that he was just, yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:06 a normal citizen going, hey, I've been here to let her go. She's my mistress. Oh, they all probably just started high for I've been here. Yeah. Nice. Oh, some man. Mistress.
Starting point is 00:13:15 No way. Bro. He got to have your mistress back. That's the tip. That's the tip. Tap this then, tap that, am I right? I'm like, I've all over again. It took hours. People don't do that, sort of say, tap that anymore am I right? I fly all over again, it took hours.
Starting point is 00:13:25 People don't do that, sort of say tap that anymore, but back then, I was doing it year old, these speak. Not like I was trying to talk in modern lingo. Yeah, no, it was really real in that, didn't they? They did. Everyone was doing it. Tap me, fist. Tap ziffy.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Tap ziffy. So she manages to get out of France and into Spain, but was she finished fighting? Not quite. She gets back to England in June of 1943 and she joins the SEO, the special operations executive, and gets trained in a bunch of different programs. And programs basically being like badass cool stuff and also really got the armies search results optimized yes fca joke there but good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good and Sophosan named Vera Atkins and she described Nancy as a real Australian bombshell, tremendous vitality, flashing eyes.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Everything she did, she did well. I'm also imagining this in like a 40s voice though. I like that. They're classic Australian things, flashing eyes, bombshell. Yeah, you know. Australian. That's what we do. All things that we definitely all do as well, all of us.
Starting point is 00:14:44 All of us, don all do as well. All of us. Training reports also say that she was an excellent shot and that she put the men to shame by her cheerful spirit and strength of character. So she's just an all-round great person to be around. So now that she was all trained up, she is ready to go and fight again. But she can't just exactly walk back into France, can she? Because it's a long way. And also she's wanted. She got a hovercraft. Close?
Starting point is 00:15:12 hoverboard. hoverboard. No, she parachutes in. Oh, hover shoot. Oh, hover shoot. Obviously. hover shoot. hover shoot. She parachutes in and she and a group all sort of parachute lint together and
Starting point is 00:15:24 they got tangled in some trees. And the resistance later that they were meeting another guy called Henri, he discovered her old tangled in a tree and he apparently said, I hope that all the trees in France best such a beautiful fruit this year. Wow, she slapped him across the tree. She said, don't give me that French shit.
Starting point is 00:15:41 That's a great line. Oh, the trees in France. Am I doing a good job or is this? don't give me that French shit. That's a great one. Oh, the Trés in France. Am I doing a good job or is this? No, please take it. No, I want him more. Oh, the Trés in France have such a beautiful fruit this year. Yeah, that's a lovely sentiment.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Thank you, Arlene. Beautiful Australian accent. She said, fuck off! Oh. With a flashing on. You are wearing a French stereotype shirt. Stripes. Splendid stripes. You're missing the beaway.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Oh. Sorry. They're right. I'm always wearing a beret in here. I'm always wearing a Bella clover in here. All right. What are you always wearing in here? And. Crutchless chap. Oh, what were you guys wearing in here? Um, and...
Starting point is 00:16:27 Crutchless chat. Oh, what were you going to say? I was going to say, You said, Dildo, right? Yeah, in here. I can tell. You can have whatever you want in there, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:16:35 In my heart? You're a scut. That's for you. I could tell by your face, that was your Dildo face. Yeah. He's about to say, Dildo. I mean, about to relieve, I wasn't, the face was, I'm about to reveal a piece of myself. Yeah, vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I just say we all have the order of face. Anyway, so while she was there working with the French Resistance, Xino team were liaisons between London and local resistance groups. So they were organizing parachute drops of arms and equipment and coordinating attacks on German forces in the area. But she seemed to be pretty good at putting out fires as well. So every time a problem arose, she came up with a solution. So on one occasion, the radio operator had left his radio
Starting point is 00:17:19 and codes behind, and the SEO team needed it to be in contact with London. So without the codes, they couldn't get fresh orders or any supplies. The radio man left his radio and codes behind. Yes. He sounds useless. Yeah, I mean, that's the, that's his entire job. Without that, he's butterman.
Starting point is 00:17:36 He's just a man, butterman. Butterman, a butterman, a superhero. So the nearest other SEO radio and operator were in Chattarooh. So she borrowed a bicycle and wrote it all the way. And she said, I got there and they said, how are you and I cried? I couldn't stand up, I couldn't sit down, I couldn't do anything, I just cried. Nonetheless, she found the radio there, updated landed on the situation and then bicycleed back, traveling 500 kilometers or 310 miles
Starting point is 00:18:05 in 72 hours. Wow! It seems like a lot. It is. So good observation there. Thank you. She was part of the raid that destroyed the Gestapo headquarters resulting in the death of 38 Germans. In an interview long after the war, she was asked about this raid and a story that she had killed a century with her bare hands to prevent him from raising the alarm. It was like this room that had gone around for a long time that she had killed a man with these bare arms. And I think they were kind of expecting it to be like, no, but she was like, yeah, I did. She says, they'd taught this judo chop stuff with the flat of the hand at SEO and I practiced a way at it. But this was the only time I used it. Wack!
Starting point is 00:18:46 And it killed him all right. I was really surprised. So you said interviews, you're just like, yeah, I just kind of went, oh, I need a dog. She's panicking. I don't know what to do. I haven't thought this far ahead. Did you say it was a century like a hundred-year-old man? That's less surprising.
Starting point is 00:19:03 A century more like a hundred-year-old man. That's less surprising. Century more like a lookout. Oh. Would you call a hundred-year-old man a century? What? A hundred-year-old man as a lookout. Centurion. That's a terrible lookout to there. Visitors is not very good.
Starting point is 00:19:15 We assume. They're saying it all though. That's true. They're saying everything. Haven't seen a judo chop there. Yeah, didn't say that coming, did he? That's not funny. A man died. Yeah, but he got judo chop. So it, didn't see that coming, did he? That's not funny, a man died. Yeah, but he got judo chop so it is pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:19:27 And he was a Nazi? Yeah. And a century. Wow, so many things, so many people. Yeah. What a guy. Oh no. Another quote from her was, in my opinion, the only good German was a dead German.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And the dead are the better. Oh, okay. I don't know how the way he went to the dead. Did he keep judo choppin? I don't know how the way it's doing. Did he keep you to chop it? I don't know how this level's a dead. He's already dead. She's already dead. She's broken up. She's chopping it.
Starting point is 00:19:50 She says, I killed a lot of Germans, and I'm only sorry I didn't kill more. Okay. If you change it in Nazis, I've killed better. Totally, yeah, not yet. I'll read it again. In my opinion, the only good Nazi was a dead Nazi. Ah, I feel better about that. I killed a lot of Nazis and I'm only sorry I didn't kill more Nazis.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Yeah. That's a bit better isn't it? Because otherwise, you know, in her mind, Bjorn Borg should be dead. See German? I could think of a German person. Gary Porsche. It's Porsche even German. And Porsche. Gary Porsche. Mr. Bam, W. And then Porsche. Gary Porsche. Mr. BMW, what's a, Boris Becker? Boris Becker, Boris Becker. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Thank you. Bumble. Bumble. My Nana used to think I look like Boris Becker when I was a kid. Like when I was like three or something. Oh, a little Boris Becker, I think. My Nana had a child's voice. Oh, look a little Boris Becker overer. My Nana out of child's voice. Oh!
Starting point is 00:20:46 Look a little borrass backer over there. Hey, man! Nana! Wait, so this is you now? Yeah, I'm also a guava's child. Of course I had a child voice. So confused. So, apparently.
Starting point is 00:21:02 So the war ends and it wasn't until the war was ending that at a victory party Nancy found out that her husband, Henri, had been captured, tortured and executed earlier in the war by the Gestapo apparently because he refused to give up her location. So she only found out at the end of the war that her husband had been killed. After the war she was awarded so many medals, here's a few of them. She was awarded the George Medal from the UK for gallantry, the Legion, the Honor, she was awarded so many medals. Here's a few of them. She was awarded the George Medal from the UK for Galantry, the Legion, the Honor, I'm so sorry, from the French Republic,
Starting point is 00:21:31 the highest Order of Merit for Military and Civil Merits, the Medal of Freedom from the United States, the Companion of the Order of Australia, and the Royal New Zealand Returned and Services Associations, highest honor, which is the RSA badge in gold. It's called the badge in gold. Alcohol at the bottle shop.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah, she's got her RSA. So good on her. That's probably the most initialism humor. Yeah, that's a really good stuff. Definitely the most impressive of those medals as well. She also played in the NBA, I think. Ha ha ha ha. After the war ended, Nancy worked for a while in the SEO offices in Paris and then London. I'm still being searched for the United States.
Starting point is 00:22:16 She just wanted to acquire the life. No, so she's working in Paris and London before she decided to return to Australia in early 1949. But did she opt to return to Australia in early 1949. But did she opt for a quiet life in Australia? No. Oh. She ran as a liberal candidate in the 1949 Australia Federal Election for the Sydney seat of Barton running against Dr Herbert Ebert, who was at the time the deputy prime minister.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Wow. So she challenges the deputy PM. She wasn't successful, but she ran again in 1951 and only lost by a really really small margin. So now she's a politician. Well, kind of. Almost. Aspiring. Shortly after the 1951 election she moved back to England again and worked as an intelligence officer in the Royal Air Force and she left that job in 1957 when she married an officer there, John Forward. In the early 60s, the couple moved back to Australia once again and once again she ran as a Liberal candidate in the 1966 Federal Election for the Sydney State of Kingsford
Starting point is 00:23:19 Smith. 1966, that's actually the year my football team in the St. Cuda Saints won the Premise ship. You don't say? It's a fun fact. That is a the St. Cuda Saints won the Premiership huh you don't say it's a fun fact that is a fun fact thank you so much for sharing and we should say probably the liberal the liberal party Australia is the conservative party confusingly yeah in case this guy watching it home doesn't know maybe doesn't We don't know. Hi Phil. Hi Phil. Hi Phil. Glad it's not for you any other questions.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah. Hit us up. Hey Chen you. Write in the comments. Comment below who's your favorite deputy prime minister. Hmm. I can't name one. About Tim Fisher.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Is Mark a McCormick now? Yes. Alright I did one. Yeah you know one. That'll change. Um. change. That wasn't a thread. I just mean in time. Unless he lives forever. Yeah, good on him, I guess. So anyway, so they're going back and forth. She's back in Australia. Again, she ran in 1966. It was a close race, but she was ultimately unsuccessful. Beating by the St. Kilda Football Club,
Starting point is 00:24:20 I believe. Yeah, the whole team became the prime minister. That's what happens when you win the grand final. Is we make you prime minister for prime minister. That's what happens when you win the grand final, is we make you prime minister for a day. That's like a kids project. It's really sweet. So then in the mid 80s, she and her husband, John, retired to Port McCquory on the New South Wales coast, and she released her best-selling autobiography, The White Mouse.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Oh, great. Where did you get the name from? The Nazis. Oh, OK. And she's some sort of a war hero of ours, and she's taking names from Nazis. Interesting. Random Nazi name generator. Yeah. The White Mouse, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Alright, cool. That's what it is. That's what it is. Doesn't sound like she's so Nancy woke after all. Oh, now you remember her name. Absolutely important inquiry for about 12 years. John passed away in 1997 After they'd been married for 40 years. So they're together a really long time. Thanks for having the grand final that year and Well, I don't want to talk about it. What happened Nancy beat him
Starting point is 00:25:17 Nancy got her she got away finally. She got away with us. She took us to town They just buy about six girls. Classic Nancy. Z dog. Not mouse. Mouse, white mouse. Because I couldn't catch it. You could catch a dog. See why I could catch a dog? Yeah, easy.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Oh, prove it. Like an old dog who's a bit slow. Easy. Okay. Yeah. Well, I could catch an old mouse. It was a bit slow. How? Well, they're little. It's graphic. And you said I can't get out. I've got the mouse.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Evan, could you put a mouse in my hand? Yeah, I did a mouse in. I got it, I got it. But I'm imagining an old computer mouse. You know, the ones with the balls in them. Yeah, this mouse has got balls in it. Evan, make sure it's got big balls. Later in her life, Nancy sold her many medals, saying there was no point in keeping them.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I'll probably go to hell and they'd melt anyway. I love this so much. The cash. That will last forever. Yeah, cash I can take with me. Thank you very much. Heat resistant. So then in 2001, she decided once again to move back to London. So she moved in to the Stafford Hotel in St James Place near Picadilly, which during the
Starting point is 00:26:32 war had been a club for the British and American forces. So she kind of knew it already. And the hotel's regulars came to no Nancy. She was kind of like part of the fam. In fact, Prince Charles met with Nancy and made a donation to the Stafford Hotel from the Prince of like part of the fam. In fact, Prince Charles met with Nancy and made a donation to the Stafford Hotel from the Prince of Wales Trust to cover her stay in the hotel. Wow, that's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Yeah, it's a room, that's a room, that's a room. I've never done an impression of him before. The only thing I think of with him is that one of the Queen's many events he made a speech and he sort of referred to as your highness and then sort of went mummy and it's like oh you're a grandfather you can't you can't call your mum mummy be on the age of about four five mummy's not good yeah mummy daddy's forever daddy forever okay Mummy! Daddy forever. Daddy forever. Okay, daddy. Hashtag daddy forever.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Please daddy, please. What's the rest of that sentence? Give me some more money. I want a little holiday daddy for my horses. Yeah, my horses need a holiday daddy. My horses are very stressed. Oh, daddy. Do cover the horses holiday.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Calling Prince Philip daddy daddy He's such a daddy. That's I'm uncomfortable So anyway, she's living at this hotel and in the mornings She'd usually be found at the hotel bar about 11 a.m. sipping on her first G at the day. She's at it. She's not here to she's done enough What year is so she's like she's gonna be like 140 by now? This is in this is in 2001 that she moved. She's late 80s 89. She celebrated her 90th birthday at the hotel and in 2003 she decided to move to a nursing facility for retired ex-servicemen and women where she lived until she passed away in 2011
Starting point is 00:28:18 at the age of 98. That is quite a good effort. It's married to her. It's married to her. It's lived through the the Saints drawer and 2010. Yeah. Oh, we're washi. Especially if you live through the Saints' drawer and 20 times. Yeah. Oh, we're washing. We're washing. Nancy Drew, well, I did. Thank you so much. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Thank you so much. I don't think I've ever been prouder of a joke you've made. And that's saying a lot. That says a lot. Because you try so hard. No, that's really not positive. I'm trying to spin it, but it's not. That was a good one.
Starting point is 00:28:42 That was a good one. So I want to end on two quotes from Nancy, if I may. This is one from her saying, freedom is the only thing worth living for. While I was doing that work, I used to think it didn't matter if I died, because without freedom, there's no point in living. Beautiful. But another one from her was, I was never afraid. I was too busy to be afraid.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I love her so much. She's always running errands. Yeah, she's busy! She's just running her bike. School pickups, painting, fighting the bank manager. Fighting the bank manager. I'm trying to refine it. I'm trying to get a boy.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Boy, oh. That's the sound of the Juno shop day, look it up. Well, I think that everyone in the barracks is like, what was that? That's like someone's just being judo shop day. No, just Nancy. That's the sound of Nancy's judo shop. Whoa!
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