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Episode Date: June 4, 2020

This is the podcast version of episode two of our new web series that we made with Stupid Old Studios. You can watch the video of the episode complete with animations, props and lots and lots of regret face right now on The Stupid Old Channel YouTube page (link below). This episode we ask the question: how did a nurse from Australia wind up at the top of the Gestapo’s most wanted list? It’s a tale of espionage, danger and a whole lot of sass! Join Jess, Matt and Dave for the story of World War 2 badass Nancy, "The White Mouse" Wake.Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KlRyJ9QS9oSubscribe for more episodes.Our website: dogoonpod.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. Hi everyone, it's Jess here. And I'm just dropping into your feed for an extra time this week because you may be aware that we have recently released the first couple of episodes of a brand new web series. And first of all, shout out to Stupid Old Studios, who are in a massive help in making it look and sound good. And we just sort of turned up and read our reports.

So yeah, there's a couple of episodes already. There's nine in total. So we've got seven more to go. And they've been really, really fun so far. People seem to be really enjoying them. So if you haven't seen them yet, head over to Stupid Old Channel on YouTube and give them a watch.

But in the meantime, if that's not enough to entice you, what we've got here for you is the audio of our last web series episode where I did a report on the amazing World War II badass Nancy Wake. She's got an amazing life. Her story is incredible. So I hope you enjoy. If you do like listening to it and you want to see what our facial expressions are like while we're telling these jokes or you want to see some animations or some visuals, you can head over to Stupid Old Channel on YouTube and subscribe. You'll be able to check out all the videos as they come out over the next few weeks.

But for now, just sit back, relax and listen to the amazing story of Nancy Wake. This episode, we ask the question, how did a nurse from Australia, why did a nurse? up at the top of the Gestapo's most wanted list. It's a story of espionage, danger and a whole lot of sass. I'm going to tell you all about World War II badass Nancy Wake. Hello and welcome. My name's Jess Berkins. I'm here with Dave Warnocky and Matt Stewart and I'm not normally given the responsibility of introing things and I think I did a pretty good job. I reckon that that was near perfection. Yeah. How could I have done better? There's always room for improvement. Okay. But you don't have any specific. Oh and I'm terrible at

feedback. Terrible at taking it, terrible at giving it. I hate criticism. Please do not comment about my appearance. I would have just added a bit more of your own personality into it. Okay. Do you want to have another go but just have fun with it? Yeah. Let's go for one more. This one's just for safety. Okay. Okay. Remembering that you nailed it. But just something a bit fun. Yeah, we've already got it. Um, okay. Why not? Let's just go for a big one. Yeah, all right. Let's see what happens. So go big. Yeah. Just imagine you're a polar bear. Just go for it. Cold. You're big and furry. Oh, my, my. Kill a man.

I want to... Ah, fish! Yeah. Love it. I mean, you didn't hit the script points, but still, I reckon it's worth keeping. Yeah. I reckon we'll use that option. Yep.

Okay. Well, I'm going to tell you all about Nancy Wake. Have either of you heard about Nancy Wake? I feel like I know that she might be Australian, but that is about it. Okay. Matt, anything to add? Well, I recently learned that she might be Australian. Interesting points from both.

Either of us correct? Well, Nancy Wake was born in Wellington, New Zealand, in 1912, and moved to Australia when she was about two. We'll claim it. We'll totally claim that. And we do that in Australia a lot. Russell Crowe, Far Lap. Lamingtons.

Lamingtons. Pavlova. Jacindraudian. Justinda Ardardin is our prime minister. Our fantastic prime minister, we love her. Don't. She's so good. Don't Google that.

She had a go, she got to go. These are references that'll play well internationally. And long term. She was the youngest of six children, which is on the cusp of too many. Six, it's a good amount. Back in those days, one was it? 1912. 1912, good amount of children.

That's conservative, I think. 1912, a fantastic year. Fantastic year. One of the best. At the age of four, her father abandoned the family, went back to New Zealand, leaving Nancy's mother to raise the children alone. I just like to say that we are not claiming her father. He's a keywee.

He's not Australia. He's in New Zealand and no doubt about it. Yeah, go back, because you're not well. welcome here with the Australian Nancy Drew or whatever her name was. Wake. Wank. Wank. Why is saying wank?

You're talking to me? Give me a clear instruction there, mate. Go have a wake and come back. Come on. You need a blouse and steam. Freshen that mind up. All right. Can we cut?

No. No. We'll just go on without you. What are you going to take three, four seconds? Lucky I've got this year oldie porn here. What's it? What's at pictures of? Ancles?

Well, no, it's all pros. Thou lady doth protested her pants off. Whoa. That'll do. I don't think we can... Didn't even need to get the hands involved. I think we have to beep that out. Yeah, this is time slot.

Wow. Yeah. I assume you're watching this at 6am. Well, 6 p.m. still too early. Yeah, 6 a.m. somewhere. So her dad leaves, goes back to New Zealand, leaves the mum to raise the kids alone. And some say that this event,

is believed to have sparked her rebellious and fearsome nature. I like how well you've committed to this. Some say that she may have to believe. That allegedly. And I've heard she might be Australia. Shut up, I'm doing my best. At 16, she ran away from home, initially working as a nurse, before using 200 pounds that she'd inherited from an aunt to go travelling.

And she travelled first to New York and then to London. Oh, sick. She left. So when she gets to London, she studied journalism, and she gained work for the Hearst Group of Newspapers. And then she moved to Paris, and she married a wealth. She married a wealth. Wow.

Let me just start it good. Just a big pile of money. She fashioned it into a man. Put a little mustache on. I love you, Terrence. She married a wealthy French industrialist. Oh, Terrence? Called Henri.

Henri Fioca. Oh. I beg your pardon. Fiocca. Fiocca. How's that? How would you say that in Australian? Fioka.

Yeah. Why, how would you say it? Sounds like fucker to me. They got married in 1939 when she was 27 years old. And six months later, the newly words were living in Marseille when Germany invaded France. Nancy drove ambulances during the war in France. And after the French surrendered to Germany, Nancy and Henri joined the resistance, assisting in the escape of Allied servicemen and Jewish refugees from France into neutral Spain.

So they did this as part of the escape network called the Pat O'Leary line. And more than 100 volunteers, people like Nancy were captured and killed. But not our girl, Nancy. Oh, thank goodness. People like her, but not her. Right. Yeah. But not her.

I must stress that. The story ends here. Thanks for joining us again on the show we are doing now. Back to you in the studio. And I think you're in the side of the studio. Okay, cool. Right, okay.

So the studio and the correspondent are actually only a few feet away from each other. Back to you. So Nancy started to get a bit of a reputation. The Gestapo called her the White Mouse. I love that. She just always managed to allude being captured. They'd be like, oh, come here. Like a mouse. You ever tried to catch a mouse?

Not a white mouse. No. Okay. Nancy Drew, she's my white mouse. What's this character are you doing? I love it. I just want more info about. Okay. Yeah, back to me. So they wanted to capture her so badly that the Gestapo were tapping her telephone and intercepting her mail. They just couldn't capture her. They apparently knew where she lived to get her mail.

We've got your address. We've got your phone. We know roughly where you'd be most of the time. Can't get her. We know what kind of cheese you like. Yeah. Any. We're set in an elaborate trap. Just eat the cheese.

So the resistance, knowing that the Gustapo wanted her so badly, they exercised extreme caution with her missions because her life was in constant danger. Not that she cared. She said, I don't see why we women should just wave our men a proud goodbye and then knit them balaclavas. She was like, get me in there. Honestly, yeah, I don't see a reason why they would do that either. Surely there's other things you can do. Yeah.

Knitting balaclavas? Yeah. Was that such a dumb thing It became a cliche? We're all waving our men goodbye And knitting our balaclavas. People need belloclavas, Matt. I hadn't thought of it like that.

But maybe like the, didn't the women that stayed home They like knitted shit to send to the soldiers and stuff? Yeah. Like imagine opening a package. Another fucking balaclava. Come on, I need gloves. I've got eight balaclavs. I'm nude from the neck down.

It's cold over here. But my head. So warm. My face feels so good. Not my eyes or mouth. They're cold. I think another thing they used to do would be to knit white ribbons and put them on cowards. Yeah. Do they knit them? I don't think you need a ribbon. I think it was white feathers too actually. They knitted white feathers. I'm sorry. Yep. It wasn't cowards. It was cows. They made feather jackets for cows in winter. They're the bowers. They're the boas. They were fancy cows. So then things started to get a bit more dangerous, and the escape network had been compromised by spies a couple of times. So fearing being captured, Nancy fled France, and her husband, Henri, stayed behind.

So in the process of getting out of France, she was actually arrested, along with a trainload of people who'd also been trying to flee, and the head of the Pat O'Leary line, that Escape Network, it was a guy called Albert Gressie. I was so sure he was going to be named Pat O'Leary. No. Don't know who Pat O'Leary is.

We never know. Ah. Or I didn't find out. Anyway, so Albert, he managed to have her released by saying that she was his mistress. Did he say that for everyone on the train? I'm a very horny man. These are all my mistresses. Yeah, so he was like, oh, she's trying for her husband not to find out.

She's my mistress, let's just. And they believed him, and so she was released. Wait, who was that man? Who's Albert? The head of the Padoleri line. And what does that mean? Okay, so he's the head of the escape network. Yes.

Who's capturing her and then letting her go? The Germans? Yeah, the people... Why is the head of the escape network got any sway in that combo? That's a great point. Or is he, like, undercover as a German guy? I don't know. They probably just thought that he was just, yeah, a normal citizen going, hey.

You should let her go, she's my mistress. And they all probably just started a high-fiving her and went out of awesome. Nice. Oh, some man's mistress. No way, bro. Here you go. Have your mistress back. Tap it.

Tap it. Tap this, then tap that, am I right? And a high-five all over again. It took hours. People don't do that. Sort of say tap that anymore. But back then, I was doing it, ye oldie speak. Not like I was trying to talk in modern lingo.

Yeah. Natsis really ruined that, didn't they? They did. Everyone was doing it. Tap me fist. Tap ziffist. Tap ziffist. Tabsi fist

So she manages to get out of France and into Spain But was she finished fighting? Not quite She gets back to England in June of 1943 And she joins the SEO, the Special Operations Executive And gets trained in a bunch of different programs Programs basically being like badass cool stuff And also really got the Army's search results optimized

Yes SEO joke there You fucking nerd But a Google stuff There was a British intelligence officer named Vera Atkins And she described Nancy as A real Australian bombshell

Tremendous vitality, flashing eyes Everything she did, she did well I'm also imagining this in like a 40s voice though Yeah I like that they're classic Australian things Flashing eyes bombshell Yeah you know

doing things well Yeah That's what we do All things that yeah We definitely all do as well All of us All of us don't look into it Training reports also say

That she was an excellent shot And that she put the men to shame By her cheerful spirit And strength of character So she's just an all-round great person To be around So now that she was all trained up She's ready to go and fight again

But she can't just exactly Walk back into France Can she? Because it's a long way And also she's wanted She got A hovercraft. Close.

Hoverboard? Hoverboard. No, she parachutes in. Oh, that's bad ass. Obviously. Hoverchute. Hoverchute. She parachutes in and she and a group all sort of parachuteed in together and they got tangled in some trees.

And the resistance leader that they were meeting, another guy called Henri, he discovered her all tangled in a tree. And he apparently said, I hope that all the trees in France bear such beautiful fruit this year. Wow. And she slap him across. She said, don't give me that French shit. That's a great line. I hope all the trees in France.

Am I doing a good job? Yes, no, please keep going. Is this problematic? No, I want to hear more. I hope all the trees in France have such a beautiful fruit this year. Yeah, that's a lovely sentiment. And then in her beautiful Australian accent, she said, fuck off. With a flashing eyes.

Yeah. You are wearing a French stereotype. shirt. Stripes. Blue and white stripes. He is missing the beware. Oh. Sorry.

I'm always wearing a beret. Oh. In here. I'm always wearing a balaclava in here. Right. What are you always wearing in here? Crotchless chaps? Go on, what were you going to say?

I was going to say dildo, were you? I could tell. You can have whatever you want in there. That's fine. In my heart? You've just got... That's for you. I could tell by your face.

That was your dildo face. I was like he's about to say dildo. I mean, to relieve. I wasn't just, the face was, I'm about to reveal a piece of myself. Yeah, vulnerability. And I felt vulnerable. I just say, we all have gilded her face.

Anyway, so while she was there working with the French resistance, she and her team were liaisons between London and local resistance groups. So they were organising parachute drops of arms and equipment and coordinating attacks on German forces in the area. But she seemed to be pretty good at putting out fires as well. So every time a problem arose, she came up with a solution. So on one occasion, the radio operator had left his radio and codes behind and the SEO team needed it to be in contact with London.

So without the codes, they couldn't get fresh orders or any supplies. The radio man left his radio and codes behind. Yes. He sounds useless. Yeah, I mean, that's his entire job. Without that, he's but a man. He's just a man, but a man. But a man.

Our favorite superhero. So the nearest other SEO radio and operator were in Chaturoo. So she borrowed a bicycle and rode it all the way. And she said, I got there and they said, how are you? And I cried. I couldn't stand up. I couldn't sit down. I couldn't do anything.

I just cried. Nonetheless, she found the radio there, updated London on the situation, and then bicycled back, traveling 500 kilometres or 310 miles in 72 hours. Wow. On a bike. Seems like a lot. It is.

So good observation there. Thank God. She was part of the raid that destroyed the Gestapo headquarters, resulting in the death of 38 Germans. In an interview long after the war, she was asked about this raid and a story that she had killed a sentry with her bare hands to prevent him from raising the alarm.

It was like this rumour that had gone around for a long time that she'd killed a man with his bare arms. And I think they were kind of expecting it to be like, no. But she was like, yeah, I did. She says they'd taught this judo chop stuff with the flat of the handed SEO and I practiced away at it but this was the only time I used it

whack and it killed him all right I was really surprised so usually in interview she's like yeah I just kind of went and he died she's panicking I didn't know what to do

I hadn't thought this far ahead did you say it was a century like a hundred year old man because that's less surprising century more like a lookout oh would you call a hundred year old man

a century? A hundred-year-old man as a look at. That's a terrible lookout too. Their vision is not very good. We assume. They've seen it all though. That's true. They've seen it all though.

They haven't seen a judo chop though. Yeah, didn't see that coming, did he? That's not funny. A man died. Yeah, but he got judo chop, so it is pretty funny. And he was a Nazi? Yeah. And a century.

Wow. So many things are so many people. Yeah. What a guy. I know. Another quote from her was, in my opinion, the only good German was The dead German, and the debtor, the better.

Oh, okay. I don't know how this levels of debt. I don't know how those levels of dead. She's already dead. She has to be dragged off. She says, I killed a lot of Germans, and I'm only sorry I didn't kill more. Okay. If you change out of Nazis, it feels better.

Totally. Yeah, I'll read it again. In my opinion, the only good Nazi was a dead Nazi. Oh, I feel better about that. I killed a lot of Nazis, and I'm only sorry I didn't kill me. more Nazis. Yeah. That's a bit better, isn't it?

Because otherwise, you know, in her mind, Bjorn Borg should be dead. Is he German? I can think of a German person. Gary Porsche? Is Porsche even German? Fernand Porsche. Gary Porsche.

Mr. BMW? Boris Becker. Boris Becker. There we go. Thank you. Boom. Boom. My Nana used to think I looked like Boris Becker when I was a kid.

Like when I was like three or something. Oh, little Boris Becker over. My Nana had a child's voice. Oh! Oh, look a little Boris Becker over there. Boom, boom. Nana. Wait, so this is you now.

Yeah, I'm also... Well, I was a child because I had a child's voice. So confusing. Still do. Still do. Apparently. So the war ends, and it wasn't until the war was ending, that at a victory party, Nancy found out that her husband, Henri, had been captured,

tortured and executed earlier in the war by the Gestapo, apparently because he refused to give up her location. So she only found out at the end of the war that her husband had been killed. After the war, she was awarded so many medals. Here's a few of them. She was awarded the George Medal

from the UK for Gallantry, the Legion, the Honour, I'm so sorry, from the French Republic, the highest order of merit for military and civil merits, the Medal of Freedom from the United States, the Companion of the Order of Australia, and the Royal New Zealand Returned and Services Association's highest honour, which is the RSA badge in gold.

It's called the badge in gold. She can serve alcohol at the bottle shops. Yeah, she's got her RSA. So good honour. I do great initialism humour. Yeah, that's a really good start. Definitely the most impressive of those medals as well. She also played in the NBA.

After the war ended, Nancy worked for a while in the SEO. offices in Paris and then London. I'm still thinking of searching into optimisation. She just wanted a quieter life. No, so she's working in Paris and London before she decided to return to Australia in early 1949. But did she opt for a quiet life in Australia? Nah.

She ran as a liberal candidate in the 1949 Australia federal election for the Sydney seat of Barton running against Dr Herbert Everett, who was at the time the deputy. Prime Minister. So she challenges the deputy PM. She wasn't successful, but she ran again in 1951 and only lost by a really, really small margin. So now she's a politician. Well, kind of, aspiring. Shortly after the 1951 election, she moved back to England again and worked as an

intelligence officer in the Royal Air Force. And she left that job in 1957 when she married an officer there, John Forward. And in the early 60s, the couple moved back. to Australia once again. And once again, she ran as a liberal candidate in the 1966 federal election for the Sydney seat of Kingsford Smith. 1966, that's actually the year my football team, the St. Kilda Saints, won the Premiership. Ah, you don't say. It's a fun fact.

That is a fun fact. Thank you so much for sharing. And we should say probably the Liberal Party in Australia is the Conservative Party confusingly. Yeah. In case this guy watching at home doesn't know. Maybe he doesn't. We don't know.

Hi, Phil. Hi, Phil. Hi, Phil. Let us not have you any other questions. Yeah, hit us up. HNU. Write in the comments. Comment below.

Who's your favourite Deputy Prime Minister? I can't name one. What about Tim Fisher? Is Michael McCormick now? Yes. Oh, I did one. Yeah, you know one. That'll change.

That wasn't a threat. I just mean in time. Unless he lives forever. Yeah. good on him, I guess. So anyway, so they're going back and forth. She's back in Australia. Again, she ran in 1966.

It was a close race, but she was ultimately unsuccessful. Beating butthes and killed a football club, I believe. Yeah, the whole team became the Prime Minister. That's what happens when you win the grand final, is we make your Prime Minister for a day. It's like a kid's project. It's really sweet. So then in the mid-80s, she and her husband, John,

retired to Port Macquarie on the New South Wales Coast, and she released her best-selling autobiography, The White Mouse. Oh, great. Where did you get the name from? The Nazis. Oh, okay. And she's some sort of a war hero of ours, and she's taking names from Nazis? Interesting. Random Nazi name generator. Yeah.

The white mouse. Okay. All right, cool. That's what it is. Doesn't sound like she's so Nancy woke after all. Oh, now you remember her name. After living in Port Macquarie for about 12 years, John passed away in 1997 after they'd been married for 40 years. They've together a really long time. Saints played in the grand final that year. And?

Well, I don't want to talk about it. What happened? Nancy beat him? Nancy got her. She got her way. Finally. She got away with us. She took us to town.

Bet us by about six girls. Classic Nancy. You dog. No, mouse. Mouse. White mouse. Because I couldn't catch it. You could catch a dog.

You could catch a dog? Yeah, easy. Oh, prove it. Like an old dog who's a bit slow. Easy. Okay, yeah, well, I could catch an old mouse that was a bit slow. How? Well, they're little.

It's grub. And you said, I got it now. I've got the mouse now. Evan, could you put a mouse in my hand in post? Yeah, edit a mouse in. I got it, I got it. But I'm imagining an old computer mouse. You know, the ones with the balls in them.

Yeah, this mouse has got balls in it. Evan, make sure it's got big balls. Later in her life, Nancy sold her. her many medals, saying there was no point in keeping them, I'll probably go to hell, and they'd melt anyway. I love it so much. But cash, that will last forever. Yeah, cash, I can take with me. Thank you very much. Heat resistant. So then in 2001, she decided once again to move back to London. So she moved in to the Stafford Hotel in St. James Place near Piccadilly, which during the war had been a club for the British and American forces. So she kind of knew it

already. And the hotel's regulars came to know Nancy. She's kind of like part of the fam. In fact, Prince Charles met with Nancy and made a donation to the Stafford Hotel from the Prince of Wales Trust to cover her stay in the hotel. Wow, that's cool. Yeah.

I've never done an impression of him before. The only thing I think of with him is that at one of the Queen's many events, he made a speech and he sort of referred to her as Your Highness and then sort of went, Mommy. And it's like, oh, you're a grandfather. You can't call your mum mummy.

Beyond the age of about four, five, Mummy's no good. Yeah, mummy's not good. Mommy. Daddy forever. Daddy forever. Okay, Daddy. Hashtag Daddy forever.

Please, Daddy, please. What's the rest of that sentence? Give me some more money. I want a little holiday, Daddy, for my horsey. Yeah, my horses need a holiday, Daddy. My horses are very stressed. Oh, daddy, do cover the horses holiday. Calling Prince Philip Daddy.

He's such a daddy. That's, I'm uncomfortable. So anyway, she's living at this hotel, and in the mornings she'd usually be found at the hotel bar about 11 a.m., sipping on her first G and tea of the day. She's answered. She's answered. She's bloody entered. She's done enough.

What year? So she's like, she's going to be like 140 by now. This is in 2001 that she moved. She's late 80s, 89. She celebrated her 90th birthday at the hotel. And in 2003, she decided to move to a nursing facility for retired ex-servicemen and women, where she lived until she passed away in 2011 at the age of 98. That is quite a good effort.

Isn't that ridiculous? So she lived through the Saints' drawer in 2010. Yeah. Where was she? Where was she? Nancy Drew? Well, they did. Thank you.

Thank you so much. I don't think I've ever been. proud of a joke you've made. That's saying a lot. That says a lot. Because you try so hard. No, that's really not positive. I'm trying to spin it, but it's not. That was a good one. That was a good one. So I want to end on two quotes from Nancy, if I may.

This is one from her saying, Freedom is the only thing worth living for. While I was doing that work, I used to think it didn't matter if I died, because without freedom, there's no point in living. Beautiful. But another one from her was, I was never afraid. I was too busy to be afraid. I love her so much She's always running errands

Yeah she's busy She's just riding on her bike School pickups Painting Fighting the bank manager Fighting the bank manager I'm trying to refinance I'm playing a game boy

Hoh Fooah That's the sound of the judo chop Dave look it up Well I think that Everyone in the barracks It's like What was that?

It's like someone's just being judo shop. No, just Nancy. That's the sound of Nancy's judo job. There she goes. She's practicing. And that's it for Nancy Wake. This is a spinoff of our podcast. Do Go On, which has over 200 episodes that you can listen to. If you liked this topic, you can check out some of our other World War II related episodes, like The Escape from Colditz Castle, the Last Japanese Soldier, Mad Jack Churchill, and heaps, heaps more. Subscribe for free on your favorite podcast app, and be sure to subscribe to this channel and check out our other videos. videos. Why didn't you mention we did an episode on the Wiggles?

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