Dodgers Territory - Andy McCullough joins to talk Kershaw return, Ohtani madness, Lux Rebound?

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

The Dodgers start off their road trip strong as the team begins to fire on all cylinders. DT hosts Alanna Rizzo and Clint Pasillas hit the latest with the boys in blue before welcoming guest Andy McCullough, senior writer at The Athletic.McCullough discusses his upcoming new book, "The Last of His Kind," a deep dive biography centered on future Hall of Famer Clayton Kershaw. He shares how the book came together and some of the more surprising things he learned while chatting with Kershaw and some 200 others interviewed along the way.Plus Andy talks about Shohei Ohtani's seamless fit with the Dodgers and his future as a two-way player.Dodgers Territory airs Mondays & Thursdays LIVE at 3p ET/12p PT all season long on the FT YouTube channel!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That is Clint Paseas. And we're going to change things up a little bit today. Clint, we're going to go ahead and kick things off with behind the seams. And my friend, you can take a victory lap. We'll see. We'll see. Let's get into it behind the seams. Be a little nervous? I thought I was waiting for a front end. I wasn't 100% sure, but let's talk to.

Do I have extra music somewhere? What's going on? Our pets' heads are falling off, but the Dodger playing well, that's the important thing. Listen, it's all live, guys. Things happen. But the Dodgers are playing well. We were going to maybe take a victory lap on the Gavin Luck situation. Luxc course struggling a little bit to open his season. Miguel Rojas in short time far out performing Gavin Lux at the plate. But then Gavin goes and decides to have himself a hell of a game on Wednesday, drops a couple of hits, playing really, really nice defense at second base.

It looks like maybe some changes in the stance, in the swing. And maybe just maybe my almost victory lap as I do the Kermit the Frog, we have the graphic there on the screen, my tweet of sipping the tea for my friend Blake Harris's tweet. Gavin could be figuring some things out as it goes in baseball. Here's my theory on this, though, Clint. I think that the reason that you're seeing these numbers from Gavin is because he has so much pressure to perform to prove that he belongs at the big league level on a consistent basis.

He wants to show them that the draft pick, that the opportunity to be the starting shortstop last year prior to the injury that the opportunity to put him in the lineup every single day is not a mistake. Miguel Rojas, a much more seasoned player, a much more veteran player, doesn't have that same type of pressure on him. So he's not going to press as much. Miguel's going to make the most that he can with the time that he has because he's already gotten a relatively large contract. He already knows that his place in this game is as a utility player. He's not going to be your everyday guy. Gavin, is still young enough where he wants to be the everyday guy and at that draft pick and with those expectations, he's supposed to be an everyday guy. I mean, is there something to be said for that

in terms of the numbers and the production that we're seeing from both of those guys in the time that they're given? Well, I mean, we saw that with Miguel Rojas last year, kind of pressed into everyday duty with the injury to Lux. And he did struggle. He was coming off of a wrist injury, had a few things working against him, did turn it on in the second half of the second half of the season later in the season. But with Lux, you know, admittedly, he's got a lot of things going on for him. He is coming off of a major knee injury, major knee surgery, has not played baseball, you know, consistently for the better part of a year. I think the pieces are starting to fall a little bit for him now. And they, these two guys with Lux and Rojas right now, you know, the Dodgers don't

want to call it. Dave Roberts does not want to call it a platoon. It is a platoon. That's what we're seeing. Gavin is not playing against or starting. against left-handed starters. And maybe that's helping him kind of get a little bit on track, some swing changes we've seen in the box, in the stance. So I think we're trending in the right direction. And admittedly, I've been very, very harsh on Gavin over the years, because there is a lot of that.

I agree with you a lot of this. A lot of that pressure. There's a lot of things that come with being that high draft pick, all of the pomp and circumstance that I'm sure you remember in 2019 when he made that debut. And we've seen flashes of the brilliance, but we need him. The Dodgers need him to be consistent and run with what they're giving him right now. Because Dave said, you're going to give him a long runway.

And he deserves it. And the reason I say that is because I remember when I back a million years ago, probably before you were even born, I was covering the universe. I lived in Madison, Wisconsin, right? So I was covering the University of Wisconsin. I was covering the Brewers, the Packers, the Bucks, this, that, and the other thing. And I remember hearing about Gavin Lux when he was itty, itty, bitty, like coming up. And then he's, you know, a Kenosha, Wisconsin kid, not a year-round baseball city, state,

obviously. So he comes with some high expectation. So the leash is going to be long, at least to give him an opportunity to prove, like, this is why I was a high draft pick. This is why the Dodgers saw me as they're starting shortstop. All right. So we had a tweet here. If we can get that back up, Jeremy, I'd appreciate that because we always appreciate you guys participating in our Dodgers territory conversation before we get into. the job that knacked it. Vince Rodriguez, dude, I'd rather have who is. Austin, Gauthier, he's, uh, is he French?

Uh, we, we. Yeah, he's, he's been tearing it up. I think he's at AAA right now. He's hitting the cover off the ball. The Dodgers have a few guys hitting the cover off the ball, which makes it a little bit tougher to watch. Lux flounder. But, again, Lux deserves his time.

It's very early in the season. Hey, you look at the standings. the Dodgers are in first place, they can afford these kind of opportunities, especially when everybody else is hitting on all cylinders now. Again, the thing is too, though, you look at the fact, and I'm going to continue to bring up Jackson Holiday when I talk about this stuff, because the guy, you know, number one prospect in all of baseball, I think he has two hits so far in the big leagues. It's not easy, people.

It is not like you're going to come up here and automatically be in the Hall of Fame or be an All-Star. And Justin has this to say, look at what Carol Whit and Bulby have accomplished in less amount of time looks i get it like i get it um you know corbin carroll was the rookie of the year last year bobby wood junior of the kansas city royals just had signed a massive contract i mean i understand but again a lot of pressure i'm gonna i'm gonna give gavin lux the benefit of the doubt that he's going to figure this out because there's obviously something there and i don't like the fact that every time he goes oh for something he's probably looking over his shoulder right like someone's

coming for my job. That's a lot of pressure. I feel that way for him. And Miguel Rojas doesn't have that same type of pressure. But one kid that we can brag about, obviously Landon Knack, picking up his first big league win. What did you see from him? I like what we're seeing from Landed Nack in his first two big league starts. He's getting himself into trouble, but most importantly, he's pitching his way out of trouble. Yes, yesterday the Wednesday game, he did walk in a run. but after that, mostly kept the wheels on the bus, and that's where this team is at right now.

They just need some dudes that are going to show up, keep the wheels on the bus, six innings from the kid, three hits. Of course, he's going to walk some guys. He did walk the bases loaded, walks that run in. But I like what I'm seeing out of Landon,

Nack, and another one of those guys that comes with, you know, a lot of expectations. He was a relatively high draft pick, all things considered. Draft, you know, Dodgers don't draft, very high all the time. kind of had his ups and downs in the minor leagues,

sort of had a breakout last year, and he's writing it to his first career win with the Dodgers now, the first career win as a big leaguer. I'd love to see that, and you hope he got the beer shower. You hope he got everything thrown on him in the locker room, but this dude's kind of been a steadying force in only two starts, something this team is very much needed. And I love the fact that he settled down.

You mentioned it a little bit. I mean, he ended up getting the last 13 batters, you know, retiring that he faced. I mean, that's pretty good. That's pretty good for a young kid. I mean, just don't start him in the first inning. Just start him in like the third. We'll just have an opener for a first couple of innings. But you know what? It's, it's, it's, it's landed next stepping up when they needed some depth. It's also a veteran in Daniel Hudson stepping up. And that's a guy, again, that's kind of going to be like an accordion. We're going to use you when we need you and kind of smash you back down when we don't. But Daniel Hudson

proved to be, you know, another benefit to bringing him back to the Dodgers. Yeah, veteran leader, this team has absolutely needed in the bullpen at this point in time. Gotta love Danny Hudson coming back from missing the better part of two years with knee injuries, thought about hanging up the spikes this off season to now be essentially a massively important piece. This was a minor league signing in the off season, you know, and being a massively important piece, kind of bridging the gap through some injuries with Blake Trinan, with bruisedar, Routarol, who's going to be missing more time? So a lot of things, we talked about it on Monday, that Sunday game, being a get right game,

now we can say they got right and they got right in these two games. And one guy who has very much been right, we'll call him the greatest showman. We've got to talk show hey, Otani guys. Oh, I love this. The greatest showman. By the way, before we get into a show, hey, really quick, I do want to say you were the one that said, we'll see if they went a couple of these games on the road. It'll be more of like that Sunday game at home was a get right game.

it looks like they are proving you right. So show you, Tony Clint, we were talking about this earlier on our production call. He has sneakily, quietly, been the best in baseball in almost every single offensive category. And I'm thinking this guy's getting off

to a slow start. Everybody was waiting for him to hit his first home run as a Dodger. Then he's first in almost every category that matters. Yeah, you know, I guess you can justify a $700 million contract. And we will be talking about that. Sorry, $2 million contract.

is only getting a, you know, oh, poor Show Hey, getting $2 million a year for the next 10 years. But we will be talking more Show Hey coming up in a little bit, guys, with our guest, Andy McCullough, who should be joining us very, very soon. But since hitting that Homer, I think I have the number somewhere else. Shohei posting an OPS over 1,300, since hitting that first home run at Dodger Stadium, though, the batting average over 470, I think at this point, of course, entering play on Thursday. this dude is pretty flipping good at baseball. And I love watching him.

I love watching this guy every single day. I know that's not really breaking news there, but he is fun to watch play baseball. One thing that's crazy too is if you look at the top 10 hardest hit balls by Dodgers this year, Shohei Otani has nine of them and James Outman has won. It's insane. It's like a bunch of Shohei's heads and then Outman's like right in the middle.

So it's like, Otani, Otani, Otani, Otani, Otani, Outman, Otani, Otani, Otani, O'Otani, O'Otani. Andy McCullough is getting ready to join this here, but Fabian Ardaio said the same thing. He's like, it's the hardest hit ball, period, by a Dodger by nearly three miles per hour. I mean, the kid just smashes the ball. He just absolutely rakes, and it is awesome to see him again, very quietly because Shohei is quiet, very quietly becoming, or not becoming, continuing to be one of the best to play in this game. Sarah Lang's, the great Sarah Lang's.

Otani already had two unanimous MVP's and is off to his best. best start through 26 games, which is insane. He could be on his way to his third MVP. And here I was thinking, like, when's Otani going to get going? Well, Rizzo, he's gotten going. He's gone. Yeah, he is full tilt. We are seeing the best of Shohei Otani. That was one of those things you kind of hoped with Shohei Otani just focusing on the hitting this season was you could see the best of the best of Shohei. And I believe we 100 are. But let's continue that conversation with our guest, the athletics, senior writer, senior graded everything. Andy McCullough, set us up better than I did, Alana. Andy McCullough does a tremendous job, writing for the athletic. Of course,

Dodger fans know him well. Kansas City Royals fans know him well. He was there in the heyday, you know, the Ned Yost, Eric Hosmer day of the Kansas City Royals. And now he's doing a tremendous job as one of the lead writers for the athletic. And oddly enough, somehow Andy McCullough was able to get Clayton Kirshaw to agree to do a book on him. It is available for pre-order now. It's available on May 7th, which is coming up in just a week. It's called The Last of His Kind, Clayton Kirshah by Andy McCullough. Andy, thanks for being with us and congratulations on this. I have to ask you first. How did you get Kirsch, who can be a little prickly? How did you get Kirsch to agree to do this? Because he's not a guy that likes to talk about himself. Yeah, I will say, I don't want to betray his

confidence too much, but I sent him an early copy. And he did. I send him an early copy. And he to tell me today he does not plan on reading it. I'm not surprised. Yeah, no. So, I mean, you know, on the one hand, I think, like, yeah, he is a fairly private person and a fairly, you know, guarded person. But he's also, like, very available in that, you know, he has times built into his schedule where he's available to talk to the media basically every day.

And so, you know, it's not like a hard person to find per se. And I, you know, in, in May of 2022, I, you know, I live in New York now. I used to live in L.A., but I flew to L.A. And I approached him and basically just told him, you know, hey, look, I think that, you know, I'm interested in writing a book about you. I think, you know, your career is worthy of kind of like a, you know, full scale sort of biographic treatment. I think the book would be better if you participate.

I'm going to try and do it either way. But I think it would be better if you're part of it. And he was like, okay, yeah, sounds good. And, you know, it wasn't like a big. negotiation. There was no discussion with, you know, agents or handlers or anything like that. I mean, he kind of just, you know, he agreed to it, went home and I think talked to his wife Ellen and, you know, she was on board. And yeah, it was pretty like straightforward. I think that he understood that at some point someone was going to try and write a book about him. And it was probably

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I don't know how much, like too much. I want to spoil. I'm not good at this if you couldn't already tell. You know, like there was a time in the minor leagues when he flipped his car, you know, and, you know, had a very scary accident, you know, driving home from visiting his girlfriend, now wife at Texas A&M that I had never heard about. It's never been reported. I think, you know, what was the most interesting for me really was spending time with him in this past year in 2023 as he was dealing with, the shoulder injury as he was dealing with, you know, just how challenging it was to pitch last year. And kind of having an inside look at like what it is like, what what it requires to be at his level, what it requires physically, mentally, you know, emotionally, spiritually, all that to be as equipped as he is every fifth day to compete.

And the stresses on him, you know, that that places, I found that to just be really, really fascinating, I guess. He's on his way to Cooperstown, Andy. I don't think there's anybody that can think otherwise. If they do, they need their head examined and they've not been paying attention to what Kershaw's done over the last decade and change. Hopefully, though, we see him on the hill again prior to that. Do you think that's the case? Yeah, I mean, his hope is to be back in July or August.

You know, he's coming back from obviously major shoulder surgery. You know, capsule surgery is no joke. It's a real, you know, several times during this process. So, you know, I thought to myself like, man, most pitchers kind of get. capsule surgery and they get a real estate license, you know, and he's kind of decided to, you know, he decided to just go under the knife and try and come back. And so, you know, it feels dumb to bet against him, you know, at the same time, like, it's a, it's a huge surgery. And, you know, it's, it's going to, you know, it's going to be a challenge to come back from. But he's, you know,

hopeful to be back this summer. You know, he's kind of on track, but, you know, hasn't been a pitching in games or anything like that and it's still sort of building up the strength. And so, yeah, it's, it's, I suspect he will be back. What's he going to look like? Who can say? I mean, he had a fairly destroyed shoulder last year and had the second lowest ERA in baseball besides Blake Snell among guys with like 130 innings. So like he obviously is still very, very good at this.

It's just kind of a matter of like, you know, physically what he's, what he's capable of doing. Yeah, we know Clayton does not want that last image of him on the mound to be that game one start against diamond backs and NLDS. I don't think anybody wants that to be the situation. um, Clayton has been kind of a master of reinventing himself. We've seen the Velo kind of drop. We've seen him really lean on that. We'll call it a slider because he hates calling it a cutter. Um, but he's adapted. He's adjusted. I love what you call the book, the title of the book,

the last of his kind because that is, that is a perfect title. He is somebody that will adjust with the game and, and with his body, even when that shoulder is falling off. We know Clayton is somebody that was kind of reluctant to get into the analytic game, kind of get behind that in front of the Edutronic camera and all that. I'm sure you got a little bit about, a little bit from Kirsha, about his feelings, his thoughts on analytics, and you speak to that a little bit. Yeah, I mean, I don't think he's anti-analytics per se. I think that he is always, it's very difficult to get him to change what he wants to do. Like, for example, the first year that Andrew Friedman and Farhan Zayidi were in charge of the Dodgers.

The spring of 2015, they met with every player on the 40-man roster, and they basically made, you know, these presentations. There was like strengths and weaknesses, you know, and so they sit with Kershaw. He just won the MVP. You know, he had one of the best seasons in, you know, modern baseball history in terms of pitching, and they're going through all the pluses and strengths and, you know, the strikeouts, controls the running game, throw strikes, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. like the limits damage and then in like could could improve they had maybe you could throw your

curveball a little bit more and kershaw just goes yeah that'll never happen and that he's just you know he's a stubborn person but i think the stubbornness is part of what makes him great and one of the challenges i think and one of the part of the the things that that is chart charted through this book is like how to stay ahead of the curve how to stay uh elite well and and and and change while not losing sight of who you are. And so I actually, I don't want to like too much disagree. Like you described him as like a master of evolution. Like I think, you know, it's early in the book.

There's like a little nugget where he was talking to his wife, Ellen, and they were talking about Zach Granky. And Kershaw was saying something to the effect of like, you know, Zach reinvents himself every three to five years and new sequences, all this new stuff. And she was like, well, you don't do that at all. And he's like, no, I'm just trying to figure out how to make what I do. keep working. And what he does is he throws fastballs and sliders, glove side down. And that's it.

That's what he does. And it's like he has done that basically for 16 years. And there's other variants to it. He changes things. There's curveballs up. But that's really what it's about is fastballs and sliders glove side down. And like he kind of just sticks to the strengths and is still waiting essentially for the industry to be able to catch up to it. Man, I'm looking at these videos from the 2020 World Series, which is just so, it was so incredible to be there in such a weird year to do it in. And, you know, obviously, Andy, as you know, every year this team is put together to win it again. So let's talk about the current Dodgers. Obviously, we hope Kirshah's back in the summer.

But Shohei Otani, obviously one of the best in the game to ever do it. What has been your thought about how he has integrated himself into the clubhouse, into the team? And just talk about one of his kind. just how special he is. Yeah, I mean, I think it's, you guys were talking a little bit about, like, you were saying somebody in fact, like, kind of waiting for him to get going. And I was kind of thinking that, like, relatively recently, too. And then I checked his baseball reference.

And it's like, he's got a 1,200 OPS, you know? It's just kind of like he's had some spots with, like, runners in scoring position where he hasn't come through. And you're like, oh, you know, and then you look up and you're like, he's hitting 375. Yeah, I mean, I think to be doing what he's doing at the place, at a time when like he was, you know, basically at the center of this massive scandal for like a month and had the person who was effectively his one sort of known friend in the world to find out to, you know, portrayed him to the, you know, to the extent that Ipe Mizahara allegedly did. I mean, it hasn't affected him at all on the field, which is just sort of, you know, says a lot at the very least about his ability to compartmentalize, you know. and to separate, you know, whatever is going on outside the ballpark. And I think as we've, as we've learned in the past month, we have no idea what's going on outside the ballpark with or not.

Like, so it's not even, you know, whatever. And I think it's still, it's an interesting process where, you know, he's, he's trying to integrate himself into the Dodgers Clubhouse at the same time. You know, it's like, look, there's a lot of guys. There's a lot of, you know, really talented, really, you know, prolific sort of place. players who are kind of doing their thing. You know, Freddie Freeman knows what he needs to do when he comes to the ballpark. You know, Mookie Betts knows what he needs to do when he comes to the ballpark. Otani's in that same bucket where it's like he shows up and he knows the five, six things he

has to do to get ready. And so, you know, sometimes that is a solitary pursuit, as it were. But I think in the past, you know, week, two weeks, you know, the coaches, you know, Dave Roberts, they've been a little bit more proactive about, you know, trying to talk to them about, you know, various things with his approach, with mechanics, all that stuff. I mean, it's, they're still in this, they're in this weird place where they're, like, fascinating by him clearly, but they're also trying to make him better, or at least trying to help him, you know, optimize. And, you know, it's just going to, it's going to be really

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maybe last year. Like I was pretty convinced, like, when he came into the league, he's like, he's not going to be able to do this. Like, he's going to get hurt. And like, hey, look, I was right. No, no, never mind this stuff that happened in those years when he was, you know, Babe Ruth and a 12 win player, you know, all that sort of stuff. So, like, look, yeah, it's pretty clear his body can't do both.

Like, it's just the body is, the body's providing the answer. However, you're going to tell him no? Like, you're going to say, no, don't do this. Like, he's shown that he can do it. Now, can he do it long term? You know, obviously not. He's had two elbow reconstructions in the past, you know, six years. That said, like, if he's able to come back and pitch, you know, give you 100 innings

in addition to what he's doing at the plate, you know, yeah, it seems worthwhile to do it. But if he's going to be like a 1,200 OPSDH, like, yeah, I almost would rather have that. I don't know. It's a, as Dave Roberts would say, it's a high class problem. you know. I mean, yeah, you could have a 900 OPS, you know, at the plate, and you can also have yourself 12 wins and 20 start. You don't know. I guess really that is more of the question. They signed him to this massive deal, 10 years, $700 million. I think most Dodgers fans really want to see him do both for the entirety of his career as a baseball guy.

You're somebody who's watched this game, covered this game for a long time now. is that in the realm of reality? Like, do we see him pitching and hitting into, you know, age 39, age 40? I mean, you know, my instinct is no. But, like, he, you know, I think this was the same thing I was referencing. Like, he's expanded the understanding of what is possible, you know, that humans can do, like, on a baseball field, right? Like, he, if you had talked about this 10 years ago, you'd be like, no, a human being cannot do that. Well, he's demonstrated that it can be done.

He's put together, you know, three seasons where he was able to do both at such an elite level. So I, I, uh, while the, the sort of logic and the actual aerial tables and the basic, you know, just facts of coming back from, you know, a second Tommy John or elbow reconstruction or whatever the heck they're saying the surgery is a brace or something. I don't know. His elbows really messed up. The, the basic facts of that, you know, suggests that he can't do it. he's proven people wrong his entire career, you know? I am sure the Dodgers will give him a chance to do it again next year. Where were you when there was Toronto Otani Gate? I don't know that there has been an offseason. I remember vividly when we were all together. I think it was in

San Diego at the winter meetings the year that the Dodgers signed Kenley Jansson to the extension, Justin Turner to the extension, and they signed Rich Hill. And I remember like Dylan Hernandez like this, just couldn't handle anything. I mean, there was so much going on. So what did you think about the fiasco of just kind of, where is Otani going to sign? I don't know. I mean, I think that it's, that was a very strange day.

I was, where was I? I was with my family for early Christmas. I have a very large family, and so we all have various significant others. And so my family likes to do Christmas like two weeks ahead of time, I guess. So we were down the Jersey Shore together. And so I told my mom, I was like, hey, sorry, I can't really come to dinner right now.

I have to make phone calls for a little while. But, yeah, a really bizarre story. I think I found Otani's insistence on privacy or whatever the heck was going on. The industry is just absolute terror about discussing his free agency to be just, silly. And I actually thought it was refreshing, even if he didn't necessarily mean to do it on purpose for Dave Roberts to come out and say, yeah, we met with Otani. We'd like to sign it. He's the best player in the world. I mean, obviously. Yeah, I just, you know, I, I know that that was not Dave's intention to make a huge scene out of that, but I, I did appreciate it.

So, yeah, I just, I found the process to be just kind of a bit silly. And that day was by far the silliest, I would say. The blue should have that, uh, the shark tank. tank guy throw out the first pitch this weekend. That would be funny. The most famous plane, we got John Boy waking up early in the morning to put together plane gate or whatever the hell it was. That was a funny day and it was a great day for all Dodgers fans. The next day where Shohei did what everybody thought what he was going to do. He broke the news himself on Instagram. Now he is a Dodger for life. And you know what? That plane is on its way to Toronto after this final game.

For real. in Washington. And it is for real. This is not a drill, guys. It is for real. Yeah. Yeah. Andy, what was the most rewarding thing about putting this book together? And again, you can get it now. You can pre-order it. It's available in May 7th. The last of his kind, Clayton Kershaw, and the burden of greatness written by the great Andy McCullough. What was, what do you take away from this as your most proud moment? I mean, just kind of getting to the end. I mean, I had a feeling when I kind of filed, I filed most of it, finished most of it in September. And just a real feeling of satisfaction of having done it.

It's something I'd wanted to do, you know, my whole career is write a book. And I know a lot of friends who have done it and talked about the experience. And it was just something that, you know, I had always wanted to do and I worked really hard. You know, I have a cat that wakes me up every day at four in the morning. And so to be fed. And so I would get up and feed the cat and then write from like four to six or seven. you know and so a whole summer of doing that was very strange

so getting to the end and just kind of you know kind of putting the finishing touches on the bulk of the book was was really rewarding but in a less like personally you know less about me I mean I just really enjoyed talking to all the people I got a chance to talk to like I never would have had a reason to call like Randy Wolfe or you know Juan Pierre or Orlando Hudson or just you know all these guys who had just great memories of Kershaw but just great, like, perspective on baseball and, you know, so just getting to connect with, with some of these people. Actually, I'll tell you. I know, sorry, I know I'm going along, but

there was one guy in particular who I really, really like talking to. His name was Dave Preveosy. He played with Kershaw when, when Kershaw was in rookie ball in Vero Beach, and Kershaw was 18 years old, and Previosi was like a 23-year-old guy out of Boston College. He threw like 75 miles an hour. He was just, he was like very aware that he had no chance in baseball. But he really enjoyed the summer. He spent, you know, kind of like getting a chance to be a professional and to, you know, live a version of the dream. And he was so impressed with how, you know, Clayton Kershaw and Preston Madden, Don Sun, who's now the assistant general manager of the Phillies, the way they conducted himself.

And he was really, he was really, he followed Kershaw's career all through. who, hey, you know, this guy, he left baseball and got a job, you know, working in Boston or whatever. And when I, when I talked to him, he asked me, he's like, hey, if you talk to Clayton, can you ask him if he remembers me? And so I said, I said, hey, I talked to this guy. And Kershaw, like, looked at the ground. And he was like, I went to Boston College, right? And he, like, told a little story about him. And when I texted this guy, Dave, you know, Dave Perreios.

He just seemed like so touched, you know, and that like he still, you know, that that Kershaw remembered him and, you know, he had played like a small part, you know, with this person. And so it's just like little things like that that happened a lot along the way that I found to be really enjoyable. That's awesome. Where can you get the book, Andy? Tell us our viewers and our listeners. Sure. Yeah. Wherever, wherever you buy books, you know, your local indie bookstore, Barnes & Noble, Amazon, Bookshop.

I don't have a preference. I was told to try and spread it out as much as possible. So like wherever you feel comfortable buying books, that is the quote of the year so far for Dodgers territory. Andy McCullough, where can I get your book? Wherever you buy books, just, you know, wherever. It's true. Where if we're where the place that you go to buy books is the place I would like you to buy this book. Andy McCullough, tremendous job. Congratulations. I look forward to reading it. Thank you for taking the time to be here on Dodgers territory and your insight on the great on the great Kirsha, the last of his kind and the burden of greatness. Thank you so much, Andy. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks for having. Talk to you soon. All right, Andy McCullough with the

Athletic and Clint, it is now time for last licks. And we have a special pup. And this dog actually, his name is also. And he actually has a home, but unfortunately he was just diagnosed with cancer. So we are trying to raise some funds to help get him as comfortable as possible and get him the medication that he needs to try to, you know, prolong his life as much as possible. So let's take a look at him. There he is also chomping on a bully stick. You can help us out by going to gidry's guardian.org any amount, $5, $3, $500, whatever you can do to help because obviously vet costs are huge. And we're trying to see what we can do to help him extend his life. He was a dog that was rescued through my organization.

We got him up to Canada into a forever home. And now let's help him extend his life if we can. Yeah, help any way you guys can. That's another adorable pupper on this show. Oh, he's such a good boy. Well, I think that's going to do it for us, right? Are we good? Andy McCullough was fun.

I appreciate it. By the way, Dave Roberts is going to be on foul territory. tomorrow. So make sure you check that out. Dave Roberts, Dodgers, Skipper on Fowell Territory. Clint has a thirsty Thursday tonight on all Dodgers. Join Clint over there. You can subscribe. You can like on YouTube and anywhere you get your podcast. And if you like what we're doing, check us out and help us out too. Go to YouTube. You can subscribe to Fowell Territory and like what we do. And Clint and I will be back on Monday at 3 p.m. Eastern. Yeah, one quick ask guys, if you guys can go and leave a review and a rating on those

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