Dodgers Territory - Buehler to Boston, Outfield Fallback Options, Scott Geirman Joins!

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

Walker Buehler has reportedly agreed to a one-year, $21.05 million deal with the Boston Red Sox.DT hosts Alanna Rizzo and Clint Pasillas reflect on Buehler’s contributions to the Dodgers during his time in Los Angeles and discuss what his departure means for the team moving forward. (0:50)(8:18) Scott Geirman joins the show to analyze the challenges in the Dodgers’ efforts to re-sign Teoscar Hernández.(17:19) With a clear need for an outfielder, what alternative options might the team be considering?(30:25) Plus, we take a moment to honor the life and legacy of Hall of Famer Rickey Henderson, remembering the impact he left on the game of baseball.Subscribe to DT on YouTube! DT is LIVE on Mondays & Thursdays at 12p PT/3p ET all year long!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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like and subscribe tell your friends tell your neighbors tell santa claus chringle whoever it is that is bringing you the presents we appreciate that uh youtube anywhere you get your podcast we're happy that you're here uh clint we knew it was going to happen but we weren't prepared let's get to the big ticket Yeah, let's do it. And what I mean by that is all reports are pointing to Walker Bueller no longer being in Dodger Blue. Walker F. and Bueller apparently is headed to the East Coast to come hang out with me in Boston. Jeff Passon has reported this earlier today at 730 this morning East Coast time. Right-hander Walker Bueller and the Boston Red Sox are in agreement on a one year $21.05 million deal.

Sources telling ESPN, one of the Dodgers World Series heroes and a two-time All-Star will join a rebuilt Red Soxie Sox rotation, a high upside plate for both. Russ Dorsey was the first one to report Bueller was going to the Red Sox. And you and I discussed this, Clint. We didn't think that he was going back to the Dodgers. They didn't offer him a qualifying offer. I had thought that he wanted a multi-year deal. Still didn't get that with the Red Sox, but this is a bet on me deal for a year.

And then he can enter free agency again and make even more money. It still sucks, though, and one of your homegrown guys that has meant so much to the organization that has cemented himself. self in postseason more goes someplace else. Yeah, I mean, you could take the positive. You could take the negative angles on this. The negative is it's sad. It really sucks to see Walker Bueller, Walker F.

and Bueller leave the Dodgers, even though, like you said, we knew it was coming. We knew it was happening. It would have, things would have really needed to line up a certain way for Walker to return. But he takes his talents to the East Coast. He goes to Boston. I'm assuming he's going to move in with you guys for a little while over there, close enough to to Fenway but um good deal on him one year prove a deal we've seen him have success there on the east coast pitching in colder weather um i'll just keep saying i'm gonna say it again

it's it's just it's sad it hurts at least you know the positive side the the his final image what could be his final image in a dodger uniform is a hell of an image with this and of course you guys see the thumbnail it's it's walker bueller hold in a world series trophy getting his parade in L.A. He had himself one hell of a send-off, stayed up all night, party, and drinking, celebrating that World Series win and all that. But still, you know, it's tough. It's tough blow. But it's also, you could speak to the strength of where the Dodgers are at. And we talked about this a little bit last week. They do have some starting pitching. The hope is maybe Roki Sasaki still in play and all of that. So you can survive without

as much as it sucks to see one of the boys go. Yeah, I mean, I didn't think that they absolutely needed to sign him back, just more of a sentimental and nostalgic signing, I think. Obviously, he's an incredibly good pitcher, and I think he's going to go really, really far with the Red Sox. I think that they have a really good starting rotation now with Garrett Crochet over there. Obviously, they just signed Sandoval from the Angels, who's not going to be ready right at the beginning of the season.

But the point is that they're putting together some good pieces in Boston, and Walker Bueller is a huge part of what they're doing. there's just been certain guys over the course of my time covering this team that have heard a little bit more when they leave. Corey Seeger not coming back was a bummer. That one bothered me. And I get it. Like I'm not mad at the Dodgers. I'm not bad at Corey. It's just like you see these kids come up when they're, you know, 19, 20 years old and you see them grow through life and all of the life things that they do too. And it's just weird not having them. JT bothered me a lot, obviously. You know, like if Clayton were to pitch in another uniform, that would be really weird,

too. I think Clayton retires as a Dodger. But Walker, I was his first interview, you know, and he cussed the first time with me. And there's something to be said how special that was when Walker dropped his first F-bomb with me. Sorry, kids. Yeah, I mean, that is one of the things I wanted to ask you as well. And I don't know if we actually said it on the top. I wasn't paying attention to the show. But our friend Scott German of Dodger Blue will be joining us shortly.

We're going to talk more Walker Bueller. We're going to talk about the Dodgers payroll situation because we do have to wonder, with Walker leaving, with Tayasca Hernandez, still a free agent. Are the Dodgers kind of drawing their own little line in the sand about how much they're willing to spend? But Alana, I wanted to ask you, like, you saw this kid come up with the team. You were there for the first, what, four years of his career. Do you have your favorite, a different, I guess, a favorite Walker Bueller moment besides him having to say, sorry, mom, sorry kids, you know. The one thing I can appreciate about Walker Bueller is that he was just an absolute beast on the mound.

There was nobody that was more competitive and wanted it more other than maybe Clayton. But they went about their business very differently. Clayton was not throwing down F-bombs on. He wasn't like Rich Hill and Sharapova like grunting and Gazac grunkey, grunting and cussing and all that. But Walker was just a dog, right? He's just a beast. And I'll miss that about him. I'll miss that competitive fire.

I'll miss the confidence, not arrogance, because he always could back it up, right? It's one thing to be arrogant if you don't have the stuff, but Walker has the stuff. And to be able to say, hey, if things get squirly, I'll come in and I'll shut this shit down. And he did just that. And he shut it down. And I'll never, ever forget. You know, as iconic as Gibby running the base is going like this, you know, Walker Beeler doing this is just as iconic to me as far as Dodger postseason lore is concerned. It's like, you know, you forgot about me, huh?

I don't think you can. And that's what I'll miss. I'll miss that when he takes the ball every fifth day. And, you know, it sucks. It hurts a little more that he's going to the socks just because of 2018. But you want him to succeed, right? You want Corey to succeed. You want J.T. to succeed.

And, you know, Kiki and all those guys, CT, all the guys that made those, you're so special. Oh, God, Jock just falls into money. God bless him. You know, what he got to do is fall out of bed and hit right-handed bitching. You can get a butt ton of money in this league. Here's 37 million for Young Jock, 650. God bless him. Joining as a DH. Joining Seeger in Texas.

I like Texas. I think Texas is going to be really good. And they got Nade of Aldi back, who I wanted as a Dodger, but whatever. Yeah, so we'll ask Scott Bierman, what he thinks of the yearman about. By the way, here is that final Walker Bueller moment. Hell of a send-off. But you talk about so many moments, like moments in very recent Dodgers history. and Walker Bueller being that guy that has the ball.

Like he just has that it factor. He has that dog. If there's somebody who has that dog in him, it is Walker F and Bueller. And like you said, we're really hoping, wishing got our fingers crossed for success for the dude up there in Boston. You know,

doesn't mean his Dodger career is closed forever. No. But for now. Not at all. But for now it is. They've signaled they have enough to work with without spending another $21 or $23 million on a starting pitcher. I mean, it's essentially the qualifying offer that was given to Teosker and wasn't given to Walker. I mean, they just didn't think that they were needed to pay him $21.5 million,

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Great to be on. Walker Bueller leaving is something that we, you know, we talked about for, I would say, the better part of the year. And it's something that we, you know, Dodgers fans, us where we sit, kind of could see it coming. The momentum towards Walker Bueller returning all was predicated on, you know, the outlook for him. And we got to see a 10-inning span where he lived. looked like he was at his best, absolute best. So it's good to have that.

But it feels like my buddy texts me, he said it feels like a double barrel shotgun right to the chest for what we've seen. And I've just been going back and recollecting on a lot of the good times. Like I was at game 163 in 2018. I remember my buddy running through the parking lot to see the beginning of that game. And just all the big moments, I know a couple years ago, I believe it was 2021 in Arizona.

I was at the game where I think he went a complete game against the Diamondbacks. So just so many postseason memories, 2018 World Series, my mind's just going everywhere with how much Walker Bueller has meant to the organization, his relationship with Clayton Kershaw, and how gracious Walker Bueller has been with the fans, with the team, and open and honest. I think Alana understands this a bunch, being in the clubhouse with these players, and how candidly Walker Bueller spoke on his career, his struggles, his lowest of the lowest, thinking he was going to be, you know, DFAed from the team if he even at a spot to throwing the last pitch of the World Series. It's just thinking about 21 and what he's done for this organization. I can't thank him enough. Nobody can take what he was able to accomplish over his tenure with the Dodgers away from him. I think it was kind of fitting that it was doogie that he struck out for the final out of the World Series there against the Yankees.

And now he's going to be facing the Yankees a ton as a member of the Boston Red Sox, obviously there in the ALE. Scott, if you had to guess, do you think this was because of terms and terms of multi-year deal versus not a multi-year deal with LA? Is it money? They didn't offer him the qualifying offer? Is it they just have too many right-handers in the rotate? What is the disconnect in terms of why not bring him back?

At least for one more year. It's a really good, you know, good question you bring up. I think with the Dodgers, not offering in the qualifying offer, is something they've done multiple times with Clayton Kershaw, allow him, you know, with Walker Bueller specifically to see what market is out there for yourself. Perhaps the Dodgers wanted to bring him back on a lower A.A.V. But with the Boston Red Sox, I mean, if Walker Bueller's career earnings, this is a huge payday for him. It's an opportunity for him to go on the East Coast. He said he liked pitching in the cold, that it helped

out his stuff. He's able to, you know, two things. If he didn't get a multi-year contract, which would have been great for the player, great for the money, probably overall, it allows him to build his market and continue building off of those 10 innings that we saw post two Tommy John's surgeries, how good can he be? How good can he be here? And I think, you know, Clint, also, you can speak to this, that Walker Bueller being able to build up his value in this next year, in a place that we got to see him at his best. I think if his chapter is done with the Dodgers, then he's going to be able to take this one year, hopefully bottle that up, see those metrics, and go ahead and, you know, build on the second chapter that we all, we all understand. It could be a very

next chapter for Walker Bueller with how he can, you know, build off of what we got to see in the postseason. Yeah, and no one with Walker, too. Like, I mean, if he was a free agent coming out of 21, he's probably a $200 million pitcher at that off season. But injury strike at the wrong time, right when he's about to start making some real money with the team, has to kind of sign those low value, ARB deals, you know, through the surgery and all that. And now, like, I like what you say there. He's able to finally get that game-changing money. And trust me, I would feel very happy with $8 million.

to throw a baseball and pitch to an almost 6 ERA through the regular season, but that's neither here nor there. He's earned this. I want to flip it a little bit on the money because what we're seeing is Dodgers let Walker Bueller go. We still haven't seen a Teasker Hernandez deal. I'm wondering if they're drawing a little bit of a soft line in the sand when it comes to their payroll, because we just saw the numbers. The figures released last weekend or just over the weekend.

A lot of money. $150 million, I think was the payroll, $103 million tax they had to pay. That is a lot of cheddar. Do you think that's where the Dodgers are kind of at mentally? Maybe trying to, you know, ring back the spending a little bit. And that's where we're not seeing Teo. That's why we're not seeing Walker Bueller back in a Dodger uniform. I honestly don't think the organization cares too much about where the payroll is at.

They've built this cash cow that they understand. And the front office has been, and even Dave Roberts. I mean, Brandon Goems, Andrew Friedman, they've been very upfront that they intend to spend. You could see a little twinkle in Andrew Friedman's eye and Brandon Gomez as well that it looks like on the business end, they've got it completely altogether. And you look at where the collective, you know, the taxes, the CBT tax is at this past year, next year. And then, you know, 2025, it's up to $241 million. Dodgers are already projected to go above that. They're going to be at, I believe, Cots has them at $281 million.

So they're going to pay into the tax again. They're going to pay a surcharge on it. They're going to, I just do not think they care. They're comfortable drafting where they're at. As far as looking at who they're bringing back, I think the Dodgers have evaluations on players, and they're not willing to stray too far away from those evaluations and the money they give out. I was speaking with Blake Williams, managing editor at Dodger Blue, and he made a lot of good points, that the Dodgers, you know, they are one of the smartest, if not smartest organization in all of major sports,

that they evaluate these players, they stay where they're at, and it lets them, it allows them to continue being successful year after year. The biggest one for me is that you look at 2019 after the Nationals won of World Series, and you immediately turn around in hand, Stevens-Drossberg, just a massive contract.

I know that's an outlier deal. We're not talking about a couple hundred million dollars for Teosker, but it's about evaluating how much does Teosker have in the tank, looking at his red flags that are there, but also understanding that to maintain the current group that they have to not have any dead money on the books as far as players you have to play, they're only going to go so far, which is why I think that a two-year deal is where they're

sticking with Teoscar. They probably want to add some deferred money. And that's just not where the Teoscar Hernandez camp is at. Well, the Washington Nationals also did a really good choice of going with Steven Strasbourg on that massive deal and letting Anthony Rendon go. And he has, I think he's played four innings since they let him go as far as the angels are concerned there at third base. Let me ask you this, though, Scott, I think you know this team better than anybody. Do you think that this opens up more of a window for Roki Sasaki when you're talking about the fact that he's a $12 million player? All teams can be in on him. He doesn't come with a high price tag, but he's a much more controllable piece, a right-hander, of course, for your rotation. It's not a Walker Bueller type. You don't

know what he can do yet at the big league level in the United States. But is that more of an option for the Dodgers now than it was, say, before Walker went to the Red Sox? I'd say so. I would say so. I believe they would have made it work regardless, Alana. Like if Walker Viller was back, they would have made it. They've made it pretty clear. The Dodgers front office has made it clear that a six-man rotation is where they're going to be. It works for a lot of their arms in terms of like Tileck last now, Shohei Otani, Yoshinovo Yamamoto, and looking around in Roki Sasaki, if he slots right in there. And even Walker Buehler might have benefited from some extra rest. You all have to see.

even Tony Gonsland, Dustin May. They have a lot of guys where you need to temper some innings here and keep them healthy towards the back end of the year. So without Walker Vuehler in the equation, Clayton Kirshov, excuse me, as well, you will need, you know, all of these arms. And I think that with the landing spot that the Dodgers have for Roki Sasaki, it allows him to understand that he's going into a rotation that's comfortable,

on a schedule that's comfortable. You've got a lot of arms in the organization who are comfortable coming up, Landon Nack, Ben Casperius, like they have arms that can come up and supplement this starting rotation. So I think that with Roki Sasaki, it's a better time than ever to be a Los Angeles Dodger, if that's where he chooses to go. Yeah, now the next one again, the big one, now we have to wait on Teosker. We think this team needs more help on offense. We definitely agree, Scott, that they need some help in the outfield. Teo has already been there, done that for this team. The clutch is there. He fits in the clubhouse, but he's still not here. And we're seeing our

foul colleague Ken Rosenthal put out an article over the weekend about, hey, the Dodgers are probably exploring some alternatives. We've seen some Hassan Kim in there, but more so the Luis Robert is back. It feels like we're at the trade deadline again from a year ago. Sayas Suzuki. What do you think of those guys, some of the other, the alternatives to Teo that we're seeing out there. Do you think there's a good fit there?

Do you think there's some deals? Or do you think ultimately the team just needs to be smart? Do what Alana wants. If it ain't Teo, don't do it. What do you think is kind of in the works right now as we approach Christmas? Alana, you say if they don't do Teoscar Hernandez, you go where? Just nothing? I don't go.

I don't go. I just don't even want to go there. I don't even want to think about Teo. I'm not in a, I'm not saying that right field should be empty and we should only play with eight, you know, eight defenders or seven defenders. But what I am saying is if his name isn't, doesn't start with the T and end and an H, I'm not listening. I just think he's just.

be there. It's such a good fit. I mean, is it, is it, I mean, as, as Clint was saying, Scott, Ken was saying, Ken Rosenthal was saying the handup in negotiations is between his money, not years. If the Dodgers don't care what they spend, I mean, who's worth more to the team? And he's not asking for 50 AAV. He's not asking for 30 AAV. Like, who's like, what, make this make sense for me, please, kind sir. Yeah, I got it. I'm, I'm 100% with you on that. I, I was on here. I remember a domestic opening day. We were on our, right before we had the show, or you had the show before that game. I said to Oscar Hernandez was going to be the X Factor for the year. And it was, he exceeded expectations as far as a glue guy, being, you know, an instant favorite with the fan base, performance on the field, clutch situations, all of it.

He just feels like the perfect fit. Just like I said earlier, the Dodgers probably have evaluations. They're not willing to go a certain number. And if they can meet the middle on something, I think it would have already gotten done right now. And that's why we have, to start looking towards alternative scenarios, alternative options here. And I was going to bring up Ken Rosenthal. He's done terrific work. You can let him know he's in his bag this offseason with this

stuff, absolutely. Luis Robert is definitely a possibility. I think Sayas Suzuki, the Cubs don't have to move him. They don't have to do that. He's a tough bat to replace in that lineup like Ken pointed out for sure. I think Luis Robert would make a ton of sense again because then it would move Tommy Edmund, free him up, go play shortstop. Mookie Betts can move back to second base, which is why we heard the rumblings and the rummings that would have gone to the Milwaukee Brewers for Devin Williams. So I think that's something to put a pin in. If anything, if there's any moving parts, that's somewhere where we can go.

We can say, we saw them try to make that work. But with Teosker, Alana, I can't think of another player I want to see back with the Dodgers more than Teosker. I haven't felt a certain type of way about a player that's coming on a one-year contract that fans have gravitated to. And I know I see a lot of people talking, you know, down to Oscar. We're being open about him wanting to return to the Dodgers. And people have to understand that this is some players' best opportunity to make

life-changing money. And it's their job as the players and the players' association to get as much as you can. And that's what he's doing right now. So there will be posturing. It's not always the best outcome for fans, but that's just the way it works. That's how it is in professional sports. Yeah. And I know I'm very good authority, Scott.

Hang on. I'm sorry, Clint. I didn't mean to talk over you there. But I know on very good authority, Tay Oscar wants to come back. It's just a matter of like how far apart could they possibly be on the money. I mean, a couple million. I think we've seen some stuff. It's about us five million. But I think it's about the deferred money.

I'll stick with it that it's definitely about the deferred money. He took that in the first one and he joined. He went to the Dodgers on one year, took the deferred money there. He probably they don't want to do it again. But yes, I believe to Oscar Hernandez, but that wasn't a show. He loves the environment. He loves the moment. He wants to be a Los Angeles Dodgers.

It's just a matter of, can you get, you know, two partners to dance on that deferred money? And that's where I worry about, like, if there is this, well, I mean, you already said it, too. Like, there is a soft line in the sand. The Dodgers are trying to probably not have a payroll exceed a certain number. They obviously have their whatever, however they view, how they value Tay Oscar. And right now, it's a bit of, I'm not going to go to you or I'm not going to come to you. We're hearing maybe they haven't talked in the last couple of days or something like that. I have a hard time believing that. But Alana and I, when we were talking on the Monday show or last

Thursday show, whatever it was, I'm like, if it comes down to, you know, five or 10 million dollars and like a year or whatever it is, like I'm going to have a hard time dealing with that. Like the fit is. I'm sorry. I'll start to go fund me. Yeah. Somebody said that in the chat. $20. We can start to go fund me and get, I'll make up the difference. So let's look at Suzuki versus Luis Robert. Obviously, Scott, you and I talked a lot around the deadline last year about Luis Robert and trying to buy ourselves into him coming to L.A. Maybe they find a fix there. Maybe he fits in.

Maybe he could actually stay healthy. But still, an imperfect player. Say a Suzuki, same thing. An imperfect player. But if they go to one of these guys or even like an injured Hassan Kim, which of, let's say, specifically those three names, what do you think is a better fit if there is the scenario where Teoska Hernandez does not return? I would say Luis Robert. I'm pretty locked in on that right now. He's a controllable outfielder. His highs are, you know, a top, top 15 player in the league.

We've seen him when he's at his peak. The caveat with him and the downside is health. Can he stay healthy? He just hasn't done it. Ken Rosenthal, everybody, check out his article with this stuff. He just laid it out perfectly. He laid out the big. points with Luis Robert that he's only played over 100 games so many times in the last few years because of injuries. But he's the youngest. He's the most controllable. He's got a couple club options in there that just work out really well. It's team friendly. He's playing at his peak. It's still a bargain. And that's a terrific way to look at it. He's not going to cost the Dalton rushing. He's not going to cost the number one prospects like Garrett Crochet commanded. That's just not what

Luis Roberts is looking at for where his market's at. I would love for the Donners to go get Luis Robert. We talked about it at the deadline. because it would free up Tommy Edmund. And then it would free up mooky bets to get back to second base. And then that's why you'll see some options there. Because Michael Conforto is an everyday guy. I don't believe he's a platoon player. And they should not even think of that.

His numbers versus lefties were terrific last year. He was good stuff. And then playing away from Oracle Park, which is just a hitter's nightmare, unless you're very bonds, it's a good spot to be for Michael Conforto to be an everyday player. So that frees up Tommy Edmund, go to short. You put Luis Robert in Centerfield, and then after that, you know, we can talk about everything else. Yeah.

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podcast alana you got some walker well just christian walker getting a really good deal uh you've got jock peterson who falls out of bed and gets two years 37 million and jock is dh essentially right obviously crushes a right-handed pitching um but i don't know i just and obviously there's there's a reason this is happening. And I trust Andrew Friedman. I trust the Dodgers front office. They obviously know what the heck they're doing. I'm just trying to figure out what it is, what the holdup is. I mean, we're all speculating. None of us actually know what's going on, of course. But for a couple million dollars, I'm bringing him back. You know what you're getting with Teoska Hernandez, right? You know that he fits the clubhouse. You know that he's great in that

lineup. Arguably the first half MVP. I know it was Shohei over the course of the year. I get that 50-50. But if you talk about most consider productive hitter over the course of the first half of the season, most consistent guy, that was Teo for me. And bringing in the expectations as well coming in. This is the guy who came here on like a prove-it deal. He proved it. Pay him now. Yeah. With Teosker,

you have to think back towards the set in New York during, I think, June. Teosker was the one that carried that club. It felt like I know these things matter in its regular season, but But as far as perception, going again, you know, two powerhouse teams, Teosker carried that load. He had a grand slam there. He had a big knock late in game.

Mookie Bet, same thing. You look ahead. That stuff all carries over. Teoscar and Anna has had multiple big hits. That felt like when the Dodgers needed them the most, he stepped up against the San Diego Padres, hit the Grand Slam, almost came back in that game against the New York Yankees. It's just the rest is what it is.

We know what Teosker means to the team. You can't say enough about them. I would hate for this to be a thing over if it's an extra. year, then I can talk about, then we've got, then there's a problem. Then I, then I can see the Dodgers just not wanting to go that extra year. They don't want to, you know, trend to the three, four year thing. I think it's a three year deal that he's looking for. I think a two years where the Dodgers are sticking with deferred money and they, they don't want to go over that. But if it's extra years, then I just, it's unfortunate. But that's kind of, I believe the Dodgers are drying, just like you

said, a soft line. I think they have a hard line in the sand at a two-year contract. And then with some deferred money in there. And that's just what we'll have to live with. Yeah. I would say in three years from now, I don't think he's going to be completely like some old decrepit man. I think he can still get the job done. You know, ball don't lie. He can handle that. Before we let you go, Scott, you got anything, Teo aside, you got anything on your Dodgers Christmas wish list with the big day, a couple days away? Oh, as far as Dodgers gear, I mean, I have, I've got a couple.

Or players, anything. What's on your wish list? Teo aside. I would love to get some rumor, something, just to carry me over through the next. couple days. I just need something because it's just that quiet. Ken's got to get to work. That's just where it's at until the signing window opens for 2025. And then that's what we'll have to wait to. Alana, I don't want to get to that point. But my Tommy Edmund autographed photos getting here today. My Teosker one's getting here today finally after months, months, round of

applause, months of none, no, nothing. So that'll carry me over here. I've got a couple of hats. We'll be locked in. It's a good time. Let's all just take a breath. I hope this gets done with Tay Oscar. End of the day, I believe the Dodgers are the best fit. They provide the best runway for the rest of his career. Best place to win. No better place than L.A. for Toscar. I hope it gets done. No better place than L.A. for anybody, myself included. Scott Gierman, you do such a great job. We appreciate your insight, as always. Thank you very much. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Happy New Year. Happy Cwanza. Whatever it is that floats your boat. I hope there's some news that breaks for you to get you

through. Take care. Thank you so much. Great to be on. I'll see you soon. All right. Scott, I appreciate you. Yep. Let's do it. friend. Yep, Leslie. Let's do it. All right, guys, this is a Hail Mary, and I really need you all to share, please. This is Cash. Cash is a stray dog that is up by the Fresno, California area, specifically Frient, California, but that is near Fresno. A stray dog that is about a year to two years old. We have been able to secure him and got the basic vaccinations. He is not microchip. There's nobody looking for him, but he is absolutely beautiful. He is a collie mix. Right now, we have him scheduled for a neuter on January 9th, but more importantly, we need a long-term foster or adopter anywhere in the California area.

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That's an adorable. Who the foundation was named after was a border collie. So I'm very, very fond of collies. Incredibly smart, incredibly active dogs. What's coming up on all things with Dodgers and you, Clint Paceas? Tonight, I'll be going on a little bit later than usual. Usually be on 6 p.m. Pacific time. I'm not 100% sure at what time.

Probably closer to 8, 8.30. I'm having a little bit of a company holiday party thing. but we'll be talking more about this. Hopefully there's a Teasca Hernandez deal, but mainly I just want to hang out with the chat, take a bunch of comments. Talk about the year that we just had because it was a pretty damn good year as a Dodger fan.

I don't know if you guys remember. They did just go out and win the World Series about a month, month and a half ago. So tube in, check out my channel, All Dodgers with Clint Pusias tonight. Subscribe there, subscribe here. And we'll have a good time. Yeah, Ken Rosenthal and I,

on Friday's show, we are going to be discussing the top five memorable moments of 2024 on our last show of the year for, well, not the last show of the year. But, and a lot of the moments, memorable moments that I'll be talking about, you guessed it. Dodger related as far as the World Series is concerned. All right, guys, that's going to do it. Don't forget to check Clint out tonight. Before we say goodbye, though, we would be remiss if we didn't send our thoughts and prayers and condolences to everybody that knew and loved.

Ricky Henderson, the man of steel passing away. I tell you what, too early, certainly. The best leadoff hitter in the game, the most steals ever. The guy's just in an unbelievable legend, a Hall of Famer. He was a part of the Dodgers organization for a really small part of his career. But to know Ricky was to love Ricky and just one of the game's best and brightest and biggest personalities, may he rest in peace, Clint. Yeah, Ricky, Ricky was absolutely a goat.

Ricky loved Ricky. Baseball love Ricky. And his final three stolen bases came in Dodger Blue. He had himself 30 games in the Dodger uniform in 2003. I remember that signing. I was like, what the fuck is going on here? And then we still had some fun with old man at the time, Ricky Henderson. Yeah, that's a tough blow to end the year on for the great game of baseball.

But like you said, much love to everybody in his life, the important people that are mourning his loss and of course Oakland fans already had enough to be hurting about and now losing Ricky Henderson. It's a tough. All you need to know about the man of steel Clint is so many outpouring of love and grief that we saw all over social media, not only from active players, but from former players of so many different generations, so many different walks of life, every skin color, every, you know, religious belief, everybody loved Ricky Henderson and a huge void is now in our game with the news of his passing. Thank you, everybody, for being with Clint and I today here on Dodgers territory.

Thank you for watching. Like us, subscribe, rated five stars. We appreciate you very much, much more on Clint's show tonight. Until next time, go Dodgers. Okay, bye. And Merry Christmas. Peace to the planet. Shalameen, the God here, and listen.

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